More Monday thoughts . . .
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, October 17th, 2011 at 8:40 pm in Oakland Raiders.
OK, I realize I’m lagging a little behind in subbing for Steve today, but a few thoughts on today’s news at Raiders headquarters:
– Got a kick out of Hue Jackson still refusing to completely concede that he’d made the wrong call on fourth-and-1 at the Cleveland 5-yard line with 4:49 left.
A point-blank Sebastian Janikowski field goal ends it. It’s 27-10 and three scores ahead. They don’t get it. Cleveland actually gets in position to tie the game.
Jackson said all the right things about the criticism, conceded he was wondering about everything he’d brought down upon his team after the Browns recovered the onsides kick. But he certainly never said he wouldn’t do it again. In fact, at the end, he said he would.
“The game would have been over. There’s no question about it,” Jackson said. “If we had kicked a field goal, you wouldn’t be asking me right now. If we made the touchdown we wouldn’t be asking me about this either.”
Jackson went over every reason why it was a bad idea, but at the end, when asked point blank if he’d kick it in the same situation the next time, he said, “Probably not. Knowing me, probably not.”
Buckle up, Raider fans. This could be a fun ride.
– Almost without notice, because the Raiders substitute so much, Desmond Bryant has been the starting right end in place of Matt Shaughnessy for the past two games. Jarvis Moss is introduced as the starter, then Bryant comes in. Makes sense, really, Bryant is bigger and therefore a more stout presence against the run.
“I think I’ve definitely been developing as a defensive end,” Bryant said. “I’ve already been able to play tackle. I’ve been developing there, too, but I’ve become more well-rounded. I think that’s good for me.”
Good for the Raiders as well. Their defensive line rotation and versatility could be a huge factor over the course of a 16-game season because a lot of players can play in different spots.
Still sounds, by the way, that Shaughnessy is going to be out awhile. Unfortunate for the Raiders, because he had the look of a defensive end who could be something special. Still might be.
When asked about injured players, Jackson said fullback Marcel Reece was “close.” He said the same about Shaughnessy, then corrected himself.
“I shouldn’t say close,” Jackson said. “That could be a little ways away.”
The cynic in me says that means at least a month.
– Quarterback Jason Campbell is a class act. I was out talking on the phone near the players’ exit and saw him getting into a car driven by his fiancee. I fully expected the SUV to go right on past without so much as a wave. The car stopped. Campbell rolled down the window and told me he was headed for surgery, hoped to be be back in six weeks and that he was optimistic. I didn’t have a notebook out at the time, so I wasn’t sure if it was on the record or not. It was OK to pass along, but he wanted it told to other media members as well.
Here’s a guy who gets it. He understands the media is the conduit for information, not necessarily an adversarial relationship. Selfishly, it’s hard not to pull for Jason Campbell.
– Jackson’s explanation of how he goes forward with decisions without Al Davis:
“I talk to Mark (Davis). I talk to Amy (Trask). Those are my two people I spend a lot of time talking to because they’ve been here and they’re people I know the most. Then I pray. I pray hard to make the right decision. I ask for guidance and wisdom . . .I’m not doing anything without Mark Davis and I’m not doing anything without Amy Trask not knowing.”
– Asked Jackson about the increased amount of blitzing the last couple of weeks. Some services who chart this stuff had the Raiders in the 20 percent range entering the Houston game, increasing to the mid-40s against the Texans. The Cleveland game brought more blitzes than any game in recent memory.
“I think that’s pretty specific to our players,” Jackson said. “The things we do is try to put these young men in position to have success. We have some tremendous blitzers. Michael Huff can come off the edge . . .Tyvon Branch, I mean, these guys can come. We’re putting guys in position to do what they do well.”
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October 17th, 2011 at 8:43 pm
If the Raiders were to meet the niners in the Super Bowl tomorrow, the Raiders would smear their ass all over the floor. Regardless of who the Raiders have under center. It would be a niner ass carnage day.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:44 pm
obviusly
October 17th, 2011 at 8:44 pm
obviously
October 17th, 2011 at 8:45 pm
Code black
October 17th, 2011 at 8:46 pm
F()ck niners and their classless coach , did he thought re niners won the superbowl or something, when he was running around like a child
October 17th, 2011 at 8:47 pm
Oakland 41
KC 13
niners still blow ass.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:47 pm
Jerry you forgot about the new signing.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:47 pm
And what kinda handshake was that? I never seen a coach do that with an opposing coach
October 17th, 2011 at 8:48 pm
Todd Collins gets a call but Jeff George is still waiting. Come on Hue and Al Saunders, give the man a chance.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:49 pm
Hue would have pimp slapped harbaugh
October 17th, 2011 at 8:49 pm
Al Davis dies, and the Raiders immediately stop the run and start blitzing.
Coincidence?
October 17th, 2011 at 8:49 pm
“Buckle up Raider fans. This could be a fun ride.”
I’m all for fun rides, and Hue can say whatever he wants to about not kicking the field goal there, but it was the wrong decision.
Should have taken the points. It makes the onside kick a non-factor.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:51 pm
Here is my two cents. What this team needs is a QB who at least been in many games and handled blitz package. Boller hasn’t played enough since his days with Baltimore. Defenses will pressure Boller and imo he will average two turnovers a game.
I would like to see us get someone who played many games last year like Shaun Hill, Bryon Leftwich or trade for Josh Johnson, Matt Flynn guys with high potential. Boller can lead this team if Hue manages a perfect game plan. He should throw less then 25 times a game. Accurate passing, control blitzes and stick to the running game.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:51 pm
I don’t like Ford on 3rd possession plays.
He had a hand on the ball..muffed it.
If anything Hagan should be out there.
I like Ford on screens, reversals and Return Game, but our offense seemed to peak in Buffalo when he was out. I’d rather see DHB, Hagan (for possession downs) Moore on Third downs.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:53 pm
Everytime I’d watch Campell run I held my breath–It always seemed that something bad would happen.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:53 pm
Yeah, Hue botched it by going for it on 4th down inside 5 minutes. Love the aggressiveness though and I guess you’ve got to take the good with the bad. Hopefully he learns from that though.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:55 pm
I can never imagine hue doing that with another coach
October 17th, 2011 at 8:56 pm
15.raidertalk Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 8:53 pm
Everytime I’d watch Campell run I held my breath–It always seemed that something bad would happen.
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Like falling down and fumbling without anyone touching him?
I have a friend who is a Redskin fan, and I described that play to her, and she said, “Jason doesn’t know how to slide.”
October 17th, 2011 at 8:57 pm
I love hue’s playing calling I don’t care if he ever do that again
October 17th, 2011 at 8:58 pm
I think we should stick with Boller and try to get Pryor ready in the next few weeks. We drafted him for a reason. If anything we should atleast have Pryor geared up on Sundays in case Boller goes down.
Also I’d like to see his speed used on some wildcat plays or option.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:59 pm
His bio says he’s 6′3″.
He looks Gradkoski size to me 6′0″.
Exaggerating Boller’s size?
October 17th, 2011 at 9:00 pm
Why Is Campbell scared to get tackled is beyond me he’s 6′5 so just hit someone like mcfadden
October 17th, 2011 at 9:00 pm
18.Kirk Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 8:56 pm
15.raidertalk Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 8:53 pm
Everytime I’d watch Campell run I held my breath–It always seemed that something bad would happen.
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Like falling down and fumbling without anyone touching him?
I have a friend who is a Redskin fan, and I described that play to her, and she said, “Jason doesn’t know how to slide.”
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Yeah, that and just a deer-in-the-headlights look in general just looked akward running it.
October 17th, 2011 at 9:00 pm
21.djohnnyg Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 8:59 pm
His bio says he’s 6′3″.
He looks Gradkoski size to me 6′0″.
Exaggerating Boller’s size?
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I’ll beat you to it.
“Ask Carrie Prejean”.
October 17th, 2011 at 9:02 pm
Yah Boller does look Hella short like grad
October 17th, 2011 at 9:03 pm
If you watch his presser video on raiders.com he as much admitted he screwed up that call. He went on to say that decision would have been the FG next time. Then for the benefit if other teams planners he went on to say that he’d probably do the same thing at the next opportunity. He said it with an invisible wink. He be different next time if it means closing out the game then & there.
We still need a BU-QB for Boller. I for one do not want to see Pryor this early in his career. Doing so could kill his future success.
October 17th, 2011 at 9:06 pm
Huey and Boller have worked together before Huey worked with JC.
Raider players and Raider Nation need to RALLY AROUND KYLE BOLLER!! NEXT MAN UP!!
Get the guy a full week of practice with the first teamers and get his timing going and call plays that are aimed towards his strengths!!
RALLY AROUND KYLE BOLLER!!
BUSH needs to play lower and hit the holes harder…he running to high!!
Boss needs to be thrown to more as well.
Defense needs to blitz Cassel and cover the hot reads!!
October 17th, 2011 at 9:07 pm
Raiders!!!
October 17th, 2011 at 9:07 pm
Trade a 2nd rounder in the 2013 draft and a 2nd Rounder in the 2014 draft and player to the Bungals for CARSON PALMER!!
October 17th, 2011 at 9:09 pm
Code black?
October 17th, 2011 at 9:11 pm
I honestly don’t think it was a bad call to go for it on 4th and 1 at the 4 yard line, up by two TD’s!
It was a bad play call to the left, when the Brownies knew it was going that way. It should have been a play fake and toss to Boss or Myers or Barnes.
Go for the kill on AL DAVIS DAY!! If they stop you, which they did, then you hope your defense and DC Chuck B do not get lazy and let the Brownies drive the length of the field and you figure your hands team can get an onside.
October 17th, 2011 at 9:12 pm
Fact of it all is we won regardless to what Hue called on 4th down and right now our fate @the Qb helm is in Kyle Boller’s hands.Of all the seasons that we’ve been losing I will take the win however it comes by blowout or winning ugly.Its still a Win so accept it and lets get focused on KC and getting 2 this bye @5-2,
October 17th, 2011 at 9:12 pm
They gonna have to sign Edwards, since he knows the offense unless they get Palmer or Orton, which probably is not going to happen!
October 17th, 2011 at 9:15 pm
Next man up Boller! The team needs to rally around him and sack up and get an important division win before the bye!!
O-Line needs to open up holes for DMC AND BUSH!!
Bush needs to start running lower and get his pads down and keep chugging those legs!!
October 17th, 2011 at 9:15 pm
Edwards and McClown have already turned us down.
October 17th, 2011 at 9:16 pm
All these coaches in blog land,I wonder why the Great One didnt just log onto the mercury for a head coach they seem to be coming out of the wood works on this joint.I say F*#k Em and Hue keep doing what you do,trusting in ya Playas to make Plays………
October 17th, 2011 at 9:19 pm
19.mcfadden20. Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 8:57 pm
I love hue’s playing calling I don’t care if he ever do that again
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I don’t know man. I think you gotta take a win when it presents itself like that.
I agree with you on Hue’s play calling. Except for that one play.
October 17th, 2011 at 9:19 pm
More blitzing because Al is dead. Bresnahan is the actual D Coordinator now. This team is .500 with Boller. Bummer because the Raiders had a real shot at the AFC West.
October 17th, 2011 at 9:19 pm
Matt Flynn? ?
October 17th, 2011 at 9:20 pm
Let DMC carry us like Marcus Allen did it in 1985.A whopping 1700 plus yards rushing and another 500 recieving and Boller just let it fly if need be…..Lets Just Win Baby!!!!
October 17th, 2011 at 9:21 pm
Carson Palmer – Not available
David Garrard – Injured
Jeff George – In a nursing home
Kyle Orton – Denver will never trade starting QB to Raiders
Todd Collins – Retired
Brett Favre – Lost it.
Jamarcus Russell – ROFLMAO!!! Jameatloaf!?! Seriously!?!
Some of you guys have no faith that Hue may have picked the right person to be the backup.
Kyle Boller = Jason Campbell
Pretty much the only difference is Campbell has more scramble ability and more experience in Hue’s system. Boller will be OK. Might take a game or 2 to get the rust out and get comfortable. We have a much better offensive line than we did last time he played. We will be fine with Boller starting for 6 weeks. All he has to do is not turn over the ball too many times. It’s not like Campbell was Peyton Manning or anything like that. We are replacing an average QB with another average QB. Hue will call the plays that fit Boller’s abilities the best, much like he did with DMac.
Trust in Hue!!!!
October 17th, 2011 at 9:22 pm
A
October 17th, 2011 at 9:23 pm
We should be good with Boller, imo not a huge drop off from Soup. Feed the ball to the backs, limit mistakes, and get our rejuvenated D to get some pressure.
October 17th, 2011 at 9:27 pm
They should take a look at Matt Flynn….why not! Go for it!
October 17th, 2011 at 9:27 pm
Hue lives in Jack London and listens to Beeda Weeda.
October 17th, 2011 at 9:29 pm
B
October 17th, 2011 at 9:29 pm
# Raiders4eve Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 8:51 pm
Here is my two cents. What this team needs is a QB who at least been in many games and handled blitz package. Boller hasn’t played enough since his days with Baltimore. Defenses will pressure Boller and imo he will average two turnovers a game.
I would like to see us get someone who played many games last year like Shaun Hill, Bryon Leftwich or trade for Josh Johnson, Matt Flynn guys with high potential. Boller can lead this team if Hue manages a perfect game plan. He should throw less then 25 times a game. Accurate passing, control blitzes and stick to the running game.
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Hill, Josh Johnson and Flynn would work!
October 17th, 2011 at 9:30 pm
I wonder if this is the end of the Campbell era. I know I’m way ahead here, but next year do we go with Pryor, sign Campbell, draft another QB, or go with a free agent?
October 17th, 2011 at 9:30 pm
Im hoping Boller turns out to be our next Jim Plunkett and not Marc Wilson,by the way where the hell is Marc Wilson nowadays?lol
October 17th, 2011 at 9:31 pm
# Raiders4eve Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 8:51 pm
Here is my two cents. What this team needs is a QB who at least been in many games and handled blitz package. Boller hasn’t played enough since his days with Baltimore. Defenses will pressure Boller and imo he will average two turnovers a game.
I would like to see us get someone who played many games last year like Shaun Hill, Bryon Leftwich or trade for Josh Johnson, Matt Flynn guys with high potential. Boller can lead this team if Hue manages a perfect game plan. He should throw less then 25 times a game. Accurate passing, control blitzes and stick to the running game.
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Hill, Josh Johnson and Flynn would work!
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Not much of an upgrade over Boller, plus Boller knows the system and Hue’s worked with him before.
October 17th, 2011 at 9:33 pm
Raiders have to go at least 6-4 over the last 10 to have a shot.
If Boller can get by the Chiefs and Broncos that’s 6-2.
Then need 3 road games against teams we should beat… @Vikings, @Dolphins, @Chiefs
Then they would have to steal a win against the Bears, Packers, Lions, and Chargers
That will be huge for Boller as the pressure mounts down the stretch.
I just don’t see it.
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we have a shot at 12-4 with our only other losses coming from San stankin eggo an the pack rats.
If we keep playon defense like they have these past two weeks I don’t see y not.
We have the best run game an a solid oline. Defense has held it’s own as of late and special teams just keep getting better. 12-4 is remotely possible
October 17th, 2011 at 9:38 pm
“NFL Network insider Jason La Canfora cited league sources Monday in reporting that 39-year-old free agent Todd Bouman will be among the quarterbacks working out for the Raiders this week.”
October 17th, 2011 at 9:39 pm
# morilla Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 9:38 pm
“NFL Network insider Jason La Canfora cited league sources Monday in reporting that 39-year-old free agent Todd Bouman will be among the quarterbacks working out for the Raiders this week.”
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I hope to be our 3rd string QB.
October 17th, 2011 at 9:40 pm
Give Boller a go, simplify that playbook..dmac dmac dmac all day baby..wouldn’t mind Taiwan getting some mre touches
October 17th, 2011 at 9:41 pm
Kansas City is ranked 21st in Run Defense, yds per game…Oakland is 16th (steady improvement). We should try giving as many touches to all of our backs (Taiwan included), pound the rock and keep Bollers total pass attempts, below 25.
Raiders 23 Chefs 14
October 17th, 2011 at 9:42 pm
@51 with soup we had that chance, I dnt know now, dmac all day, ride the kid to victory..what he have 50 on 7 to start the game
October 17th, 2011 at 9:42 pm
HueJack City Raiders 24*Kansas City Cheats 17
October 17th, 2011 at 9:43 pm
# devilr8er Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 9:30 pm
I wonder if this is the end of the Campbell era. I know I’m way ahead here, but next year do we go with Pryor, sign Campbell, draft another QB, or go with a free agent?
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It should not be the end of the JC era, unless they can get someone else better to replace him, which they probably can’t.
They should be able to resign JC at a bargain price due to the injury now, instead of over pay to retain him.
October 17th, 2011 at 9:44 pm
Don’t know if this next game is the time to try play to tricky..dub besting right now mayn
October 17th, 2011 at 9:45 pm
# devilr8er Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 9:31 pm
# Raiders4eve Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 8:51 pm
Here is my two cents. What this team needs is a QB who at least been in many games and handled blitz package. Boller hasn’t played enough since his days with Baltimore. Defenses will pressure Boller and imo he will average two turnovers a game.
I would like to see us get someone who played many games last year like Shaun Hill, Bryon Leftwich or trade for Josh Johnson, Matt Flynn guys with high potential. Boller can lead this team if Hue manages a perfect game plan. He should throw less then 25 times a game. Accurate passing, control blitzes and stick to the running game.
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Hill, Josh Johnson and Flynn would work!
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Not much of an upgrade over Boller, plus Boller knows the system and Hue’s worked with him before.
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I’m taking these guys to compete as the backup with Pryor.
October 17th, 2011 at 9:45 pm
Jason deserves to stay, good attitude, this will be hurting him right when we were taking the next step to the promise land
October 17th, 2011 at 9:47 pm
What is it with all these frigging loser qbs. … Edwards. . Collins… etc.. fuk them…. acting like they have a lot of options. .. screw them…lets go with boller and Pryor if need be… fuk Edwards. .. sour puss. .. good riddance. .. sorry mf. .
October 17th, 2011 at 9:47 pm
I would like to see Huey call more play action roll outs and bootlegs and get Boller out of the pocket so he can get his feet into the game and not have to worry about feeling consistent pressure!
Move the pocket Huey to help Boller out!!
October 17th, 2011 at 9:47 pm
Heard we signed a safety ???
October 17th, 2011 at 9:49 pm
What about mcnabb….
October 17th, 2011 at 9:49 pm
Al Saunders needs to put in a call to Kurt warner
October 17th, 2011 at 9:50 pm
Pryor needs to get his throwing mechanics and footwork together.
When he throws short or intermediate passes, the nose of the ball goes downward. That’s not good!
Huey and Saunders need to fix that….PRONTO!!
October 17th, 2011 at 9:51 pm
# devilr8er Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 9:30 pm
I wonder if this is the end of the Campbell era. I know I’m way ahead here, but next year do we go with Pryor, sign Campbell, draft another QB, or go with a free agent?
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It should not be the end of the JC era, unless they can get someone else better to replace him, which they probably can’t.
They should be able to resign JC at a bargain price due to the injury now, instead of over pay to retain him
October 17th, 2011 at 9:52 pm
Here’s the deal.
You start Boller, then bring in Pryor on certain downs for wildcat purposes.
The coup de gras is you bring in Favre on 3rd downs for the dagger.
Give ‘em the old 3 QB platoon attack.
October 17th, 2011 at 9:56 pm
I don’t get soley pointing out the call to go for it on 4th and 1. Yeah it was a bad call in retrospect, but I understand why he did it, just like I understand why he goes for a fake field goal or goes for a 4th and 1 from his own 30 with a brand new QB in the game. He wants teams to feel like the Raiders will do anything at any time, it makes them off balance and that will be needed more than ever if we have to further limit our offense to the skill set of Boller. People need to look at the sum of the calls during the course of the game and unless you didn’t agree with all of the “gutsy” calls then you shouldn’t have an issue with any of them. That’s just Hue.
October 17th, 2011 at 9:57 pm
Eventhough KC is a divisional rival, I think this is a good week for Boller to start. KC is a very average team on D, if not below average. They are 17th vs the pass and like 21st vs the run. they are giving up 249 yds per game in the pass and have given up 12 TDs, with only 5 ints.
With a smart gameplan, Boller will do just fine this week. Then go into the bye and study hard and hopefully come back and be ready for Denver and be 6-2.
Hue will know how to handle the situation. Aside from Campbell’s head dives yesterday, he got him to stop with the stupid mistakes. he can do the same for Boller, hopefully.
October 17th, 2011 at 9:59 pm
If Madden isn’t carrying a bag of money and on a plane headed for Hattiesburg right now it is nothing short of a travesty.
October 17th, 2011 at 10:02 pm
If Henry Burris isn’t watching film of the Chiefs at Raider headquarters right now, then I just about give up.
October 17th, 2011 at 10:11 pm
If Jeff Garcia isn’t sitting in Hue Jackson’s basement scratching his tenders while simultaneously perusing the Raider playbook with occasional glances at the Raider media guide in order to get a quick peak at pictures of the Raiderettes…it is beyond ridiculous.
October 17th, 2011 at 10:19 pm
Raiders need to take a look at LaDarius Fernschlitz out of Tampa Western State.
October 17th, 2011 at 10:20 pm
There it is guys, if you saw the Hue Jackson interview today on Raiders.com, Hue ended the 24 minute interview with the comment that if Boller gets hurt,
then Pryor goes in, followed by Lechler.
So, “The ONE!” aka: Terrell Pryor is now slated as the number two and will go in if Boller goes down.
Obviously, (Hue’s favorite word) we all want Boller to step up and play to his original draft status as a number one pick, and hopefully, “The ONE!” will have the whole year before going in…in a perfect world.
But then, the NFL is not a perfect world. Nevertheless, it’s good to know that “The ONE!” will be groomed to go in. Great!
Raiders 31 – Chiefs 20
October 17th, 2011 at 10:21 pm
Do you think Bret Favre really has anything left? What would he be playing for? Would he want to play for a Run first O?
October 17th, 2011 at 10:21 pm
Two words: Doug Flutie.
October 17th, 2011 at 10:22 pm
– Asked Jackson about the increased amount of blitzing the last couple of weeks. Some services who chart this stuff had the Raiders in the 20 percent range entering the Houston game, increasing to the mid-40s against the Texans. The Cleveland game brought more blitzes than any game in recent memory.
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Thanks, cross-poster was in here today, trying to tell me the Raiders always blitzed.
October 17th, 2011 at 10:23 pm
Raider Nation-Station
NEW!~ 10-17-11: RAIDERS COULD SETTLE ON BOLLER
Price, draft picks, injuries, grudges and indifference could mean in Boller we trust…at least till Jason gets back
http://www.raidernationstation.com/exclusives
October 17th, 2011 at 10:23 pm
Dollar to Donuts Boller gets hurt vs KC. Misses at least one play.
October 17th, 2011 at 10:24 pm
Not all right with Boller but wut ya gonna do. It means Jason will probably get a long term deal when he heals up.
October 17th, 2011 at 10:24 pm
DKnight007 Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 9:12 pm
They gonna have to sign Edwards, since he knows the offense unless they get Palmer or Orton, which probably is not going to happen!
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Edwards was already asked but he said no thanks. I guess he’s still a little PO’d at the way he was treated when last here.
October 17th, 2011 at 10:24 pm
What’s up KK? Did you make it to the game?
October 17th, 2011 at 10:26 pm
Jerry when you say fun ride exactly who would this fun ride be for? It sounds to me you hope if he does do it again it backfires on him so it’ll be fun FOR YOU!!
When I saw the presser he said he wouldn’t do it again and then when pressed on it just to have fun he said he would do teh same thing. I don’t think he would in fact I know he wouldn’t because he put his team under a lot of pressure with that decision and I know he was feeling for them if he had lost that game they would definitely blame him for it. There is no way he does that again under any circumstances because it just doesn’t make sense unles you don’t have a kicker.
October 17th, 2011 at 10:26 pm
I think we should start Boller and see if are running game can take us past KC….McFadden should have a breakout game and he is due…. But I will say this, ease Pryor in little by little by the next few games…. KC is bearable but Denver suddenly looms dangerous with Tebow…. Pryor, if given a condensed playbook, could be effective with his super mobility…. He is everybit like micheal Vick in open space…. I wanna see him anyway he was a one man wrecking crew in college…. Let Hue develop plays that will suit his unique skill set…. Also, Pryor has a huge chip on his shoulder that can make a player play with heart…. Raiders 31 Chiefs 17 mcFadden will romp for over a hundred and Defense will pressure Cassell and stuff the run, especially without Charles….
October 17th, 2011 at 10:27 pm
77.The Realist Dirty Raccoon Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 10:21 pm
Do you think Bret Favre really has anything left? What would he be playing for? Would he want to play for a Run first O?
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There has been absolutely ZERO mention of even the most remote possibility of Favre talking with the Raiders (outside of a few half serious jokes about it on this blog). But…I guess the only thing would be for some sort of redemption on his part; one last chance to beat Green Bay and one last shot at a SB with the only possible team that would take a chance on him out of sheer desperation.
As far as “run first” offense, wasn’t Minnesota basically “run first” with Adrian Peterson?
October 17th, 2011 at 10:29 pm
Djohnnyg Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 10:19 pm
Raiders need to take a look at LaDarius Fernschlitz out of Tampa Western State.
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yes, he’s fantastic. probably every bit as good as side finch would have been in baseball if not for his injury. ladarius fernschlitz. white boy named ladarius by his dad in hopes he would become a great option qb/pimp.
October 17th, 2011 at 10:30 pm
sidd finch
October 17th, 2011 at 10:31 pm
Did u see Hillis posterize McClain with that stiff arm…. Was at the game and seen that and even though he was off balance he still got tossed on his a$$…. he did shoot the gap and stuff a run for a loss and almost had a pick, if not for Huff tryna 2 ball hog and ran into him…. Nasty stiff arm though….
October 17th, 2011 at 10:31 pm
Djohnnyg Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 9:59 pm
If Madden isn’t carrying a bag of money and on a plane headed for Hattiesburg right now it is nothing short of a travesty.
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2 of the best non-rob_raider posts ever. ur my new friend.
October 17th, 2011 at 10:32 pm
DMAC will get his hundred yds this week
look for boss to be more active in the passing game this week
receivers Murphy ford an dhb will have timely passes with opprtunty for the big play
won’t be to much passing but there will be key throws.
October 17th, 2011 at 10:34 pm
In all my years as a Raiders fan, I have never seen us blitz as much as we do now. I know it might come back to bite us from time to time, but the offenses need to worry about another dimension!
October 17th, 2011 at 10:34 pm
if boller somehow leads us to the playoffs, this year will be known as the holy-boller.
seriously, it is eerily similar to the whole pastorini/plunkett thing.
October 17th, 2011 at 10:35 pm
sorry guys but blitzing is overrated, if u know football. when it works, great, but it takes u out of position, and it can get u gashed.
October 17th, 2011 at 10:36 pm
What a shame, finally making a comeback, and the starting QB goes down. Damn.
October 17th, 2011 at 10:36 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 5:21 pm
I just watched the game again. Or, excuse me, “reviewed the game tape” lol, and I realized that Boller really isn’t that bad. I actually like his awareness. Like those pump fakes he does where he whips his upper body from one direction to another in a flash. I think he he fooled a few defenders with it. His accuracy leaves a lot to be desired but as Jerry said, he’s really better than anything available. Heck with it. Let’s go with Boller.
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Would you like some maple syrup with that waffle? Why, just yesterday you were piling on me with your statistics massaging alter ego, Alex7, about how Boller would be the worst thing since Chia Pets.
It took you a 2nd time around but you now “realized” that Boller isn’t so bad? Welcome to reality. Now go enlighten your bipolar twin.
October 17th, 2011 at 10:36 pm
Raiders 28 chiefs 14
October 17th, 2011 at 10:37 pm
News: Dolphins QB Matt Moore was not very impressive in his first start of the season in Week 6 against the Jets. Moore completed 16 of his 34 pass attempts for 204 and was picked off twice by Darrelle Revis, including once in the end zone, which he then returned 100 yards the other way for a touchdown. Revis’ second pick came in the fourth quarter, but the game was pretty much out of reach by then. Moore completed a pass to seven different receivers in the contest and was unable to get the Dolphins in the end zone in 24-6 defeat. “It’s rough, kind of the same old story, trying to find answers and make plays down there in the red zone and we seem to hit a wall,” Moore said. “Just got to keep going.”
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gulp. now substitute boller for moore and i think we see the future.
unfortunately we are experiencing what every nil team dreads: the #2 taking over. i usually doesn’t end up good. man, i hope hue is working on a miracle.
October 17th, 2011 at 10:38 pm
89.rob_raider Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 10:30 pm
sidd finch
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Finally. Someone making some sense around here.
October 17th, 2011 at 10:40 pm
Rob_raider Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 10:35 pm
sorry guys but blitzing is overrated, if u know football. when it works, great, but it takes u out of position, and it can get u gashed.
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You can’t let QB’s pick you apart, either. If you’re not getting enough pressure with 4, you’d better bring 5 or 6
October 17th, 2011 at 10:42 pm
95.rob_raider Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 10:35 pm
sorry guys but blitzing is overrated, if u know football. when it works, great, but it takes u out of position, and it can get u gashed.
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Dumbest post of the year.
Quarterbacks get clobbered on blitzes.
October 17th, 2011 at 10:44 pm
“Their defensive line rotation and versatility could be a huge factor over the course of a 16-game season because a lot of players can play in different spots.”
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Jerry doesn’t read Raider Nation Station. They’ve been talking up Oaklands Hybrid Nation thing since last year!
October 17th, 2011 at 10:44 pm
Anytime a raw rookie text the coach with “Hey coach I’m ready” you know he has a ton of confidence in his ability to win games. Hue said “in his mind I know he thinks he is” but IMO Hue is in for a bit of a surprise with Pryor this kid is special.
October 17th, 2011 at 10:45 pm
Rob_raider Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 10:35 pm
sorry guys but blitzing is overrated, if u know football. when it works, great, but it takes u out of position, and it can get u gashed.
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If you have the personnel to do it, blitzing at the right time can be extremely beneficial. Big difference in our defense beginning with the Texans game. Now, against the top QBs it can burn you. Guys like Rivers and Manning. They know how to defeat the blitz and can get rid of it quickly. But, by and large, you don’t want to give a QB time,.
October 17th, 2011 at 10:45 pm
Blitzing is great…when it works
October 17th, 2011 at 10:46 pm
Kirk Says:
Dumbest post of the year.
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I’m afraid there’s some real stiff competition for that title. Many of them coming over the past couple of days.
October 17th, 2011 at 10:47 pm
Kirk Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 10:42 pm
95.rob_raider Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 10:35 pm
sorry guys but blitzing is overrated, if u know football. when it works, great, but it takes u out of position, and it can get u gashed.
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Dumbest post of the year.
Quarterbacks get clobbered on blitzes.
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really? on all blitzes? what about when the line or rb picks it up and a guy like brady simply throws it to the abandoned area of the field? i’m stupid? clearly, u haven’t been reading my posts. i’ll wager i’m one of the most informed football-knowledgable people on this board. i’m a defensive coordinator and we never blitz. and we give up less than 6 point a game. granted, it’s not the nfl but it’s high school. i’m not saying never blitz, but common fans. w/ little actual knowledge of how the game is played, often love “blitzing”, b/c it sounds fun. mixing fronts, and getting pressure from ur front 4 is best.
October 17th, 2011 at 10:47 pm
I’d say Hue’s decision to pass on the field goal was “ill-advised,” but that would be too charitable; it was stupid and careless.
I appreciate his other calls and their imaginative quality because they have offered a high reward. This call didn’t offer a reward at all. The 3 points was as automatic as any play in football can be “automatic” and it offered as much assurance of victory as any play can ever offer “assurance.” Dumb.
However, I can understand why he didn’t tell the media/Jerry that he wouldn’t do that again. You always want to keep your opponent thinking you might just be crazy enough to do *anything at any time” and that is smart.
October 17th, 2011 at 10:49 pm
Blitzing always works, especially against good quarterbacks.
The purpose of a blitz is to injure or rattle the quarterback, and the quarterback you want to injure most is a Manning or a Brady.
Patriots game on Sunday the opponent rushed 3 men on at the goal line, and Brady just stood there and waited and threw a touchdown pass.
The quarterback must go down, and he must go down hard.
October 17th, 2011 at 10:49 pm
but remember, jerry is an idiot. he knows no more about football than the average poster here.
October 17th, 2011 at 10:50 pm
So far AC lived up to his three tackles zero sacks a game 2011 average.
With more time at Raider practice, i would like to see this improve next weak.
JMac agrees with Krappy that the blitz total has increased from 20 to 40 by some metric that I did not know of, per some obscure stat website I also did not catch the name of.\
Krappy dropping truth bombs up in heya. LMFAO!
More blitzing please. AC get some.
October 17th, 2011 at 10:51 pm
When pryor does get in there and NFL defenses see this kid run like a deer they will shake their head in disbelief. Pryor is as fast as Calvin Johnson and even bigger he is a physical freak like no other. Yet he can stand back there and throw it 60 yards on a line accurately. Cam is big and fast but he’s takes aminute to get up to speed Pryor is explosive he gets up to speed in his 4th or 5th stride once he turns upfield it does look fast but he is MOVING!! when they see it it’ll shock them.
Hue will have a lot of fun putting this kid on the field because he is that good I watched McCoy play aginst us and I was saying if this guy can play at this level wait til they get a load of Pryor.
October 17th, 2011 at 10:52 pm
Kirk Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 10:49 pm
Blitzing always works, especially against good quarterbacks.
The purpose of a blitz is to injure or rattle the quarterback, and the quarterback you want to injure most is a Manning or a Brady.
Patriots game on Sunday the opponent rushed 3 men on at the goal line, and Brady just stood there and waited and threw a touchdown pass.
The quarterback must go down, and he must go down hard.
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i can’t begin to tell u how dumb u r. blitzing always works? i’m not sure ur capable of understanding anything i say anyway. the purpose of blitzing is to injure or rattle the qb? another fan raised on madden video games. the purpose is to disrupt and pressure, dummy, and it works on occasion, but not close to always. in fact, a good qb can make u pay dearly for it.
October 17th, 2011 at 10:53 pm
Kirk Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 10:49 pm
Blitzing always works, especially against good quarterbacks.
The purpose of a blitz is to injure or rattle the quarterback, and the quarterback you want to injure most is a Manning or a Brady.
Patriots game on Sunday the opponent rushed 3 men on at the goal line, and Brady just stood there and waited and threw a touchdown pass.
The quarterback must go down, and he must go down hard.
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did u hear that nfl coordinators? this guy just figured out how to defeat brady/manning! the secret is blitzing!
October 17th, 2011 at 10:54 pm
I don’t think you can ride DMac for a whole year, game in game out.
Marcus was a slashing runner–less prone to injury than a guy with DMac’s style.
There’s a lot of luck in not getting hurt in this game, but there is something to be said for the knack some players, especially running backs, have for avoiding the worst of collisions and knowing how and when to fall…and when to go out of bounds.
October 17th, 2011 at 10:54 pm
Sorry. Spoke too soon on nobody outside this blog talking Favre for Raiders: This from NFP.
Brett Favre Suggested As Possible Candidate For Raiders’ Quarterback Position
by Jon Bois • Oct 17, 2011 3:44 PM EDT
After breaking his collarbone Saturday, Raiders quarterback Jason Campbell will likely be lost for the season. Pro Football Talk’s Mike Florio suggests that the Raiders should look into replacing him with Brett Favre.
Also, Favre played one of the finest games of his career at Oakland, a day after his father died. Only two days before Favre’s 42nd birthday, legendary Raiders owner Al Davis died, which gives the team a strong amount of emotional appeal.
This is an important news story. Being an important news story, there are plenty of angles from which to approach it. After the jump, I will offer news and analysis about said important news story, on account of this being important and news and a story.
■Sounds like the Raiders might be “raiding” the retirement pool for talent!
■Sure would be great to see the ol’ Gunslinger out there again.
■It sure would be great to see Brett Favre, the Gunslinger himself, out there again.
■So what if Favre’s hair has gone gray? He’s silver, and back… for the Silver and Black!
■What better place for a Gunslinger than the Wild, Wild West… er, the AFC West?
October 17th, 2011 at 10:55 pm
the Raiders managed the game well without Campbell and were bold on special teams. Only five penalties for 35 yards — season lows. Grade: B
– JERRY MCDONALD
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And yet the main topic between Gannon and pervy Marv Albert was how horrible Oakladns penalties have been. Iswear to Gord these lazy bat turdz don’t do their homework and just blather. “Its Oakland? Well okay, they have penalties. They hire crimlansl right? Away we go.”
So much negative and subliminaly negative Raider crap.
Bet it lingers even after the old mans gone just because they love to hate the Raiders.
Know why?
Cuz we reprenst the working class. Cuz we represent minorities. Cuz we represent the Raider Nation
October 17th, 2011 at 10:58 pm
115.rob_raider Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 10:53 pm
Kirk Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 10:49 pm
Blitzing always works, especially against good quarterbacks.
The purpose of a blitz is to injure or rattle the quarterback, and the quarterback you want to injure most is a Manning or a Brady.
Patriots game on Sunday the opponent rushed 3 men on at the goal line, and Brady just stood there and waited and threw a touchdown pass.
The quarterback must go down, and he must go down hard.
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did u hear that nfl coordinators? this guy just figured out how to defeat brady/manning! the secret is blitzing!
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Glad you finally get it.
Injuring opposition quarterbacks is very effective.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:00 pm
If they hate, then let’em hate GoodOle00. “There are 31 teams in the NFL, and then there are the Oakland Raiders”
October 17th, 2011 at 11:01 pm
i will tell u this: i’m not sure favre has anything left. but if he came here, it would be one of the most memorable years ever. al davis, the great man, passes. and hue says f*ck it, i’m going for it all! brings in the pen*s tester and implants dan dierdrof permanently into the booth for all raiders games. “can u believe brett favre? i mean talk about a great qb. look at him on this play! he scrambles for 2 minutes and let’s an 80 yard bomb go down the field! yes, it was picked but i mean don’t u just love this guy!”
October 17th, 2011 at 11:03 pm
texter
October 17th, 2011 at 11:03 pm
You have to be kidding, Rob.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:04 pm
it’s like in “tin cup”. go for it hue! go for it!
October 17th, 2011 at 11:06 pm
Rob_Raider You have to excuse Kirk he thinks anything Mr Davis is against must be right. The reason he doesn’t blitz much is because it exposes your defense to astute QB play great QB’s will murder a blitzing team. The reason we blitzed so much yesterday is because we were playing a young inexperienced QB. The problem is the media feeds into their ignorance with this crap Jerry just wrote.
Any astute football fan know sthe blitz is as risky as it is affective. There are more TD’s thrown against the blitz than any other defense.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:13 pm
yes priest. i didn’t agree w/ al 100% of the time but he knew much more about the game than practically anyone. he believed in superior athletes applying pressure by beating their man. now, i like schemes that are clever and help create mismatches. but blitzing is dangerous. there’s a reason why the west coast offense was created. the bears’ 46 defense was so successful by sending so many guys, that the short passing game was invented to get the ball out before u could get there. ever try blitzing the OLB, when the qb just hits the slant where the OLB was, and no one is there? it’s called a 5-yard pass that becomes a 15 yarder.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:15 pm
There is no way we blitz like that if the QB is Aaron Rodgers or Brady or Brees or any great player. If they get it picked up it’s a huge play. Rookies don’t recognize it.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:16 pm
As any astute football fan knows, if you knock out the opposing team’s quarterback, it’s easier to win.
And blitzing is the best way to do that.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:18 pm
yeah kirk–that’s the game plan, buddy. and it happens so often. very astute.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:18 pm
Rob Any astute fan knows it’s risky business you have to disquise it well and then ou have to have players who can get there if you don’t you can make the game very easy for a good QB.They’ll just sit back and pick you apart.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:19 pm
put your dictionary down. using the word “astute” doesn’t make u that.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:19 pm
i meant kirk
October 17th, 2011 at 11:21 pm
i picture kirk. barefoot w/ a schlitz in his hand. “kill ‘em! kill ‘em!!! now that’s some football right there!”
October 17th, 2011 at 11:22 pm
I agree that you can get burned with the blitz, Gannon when he was with the Raiders burned a lot of teams, but using it occasionally against certain QBs is a good idea. Especially if your front four is not getting enough pressure.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:22 pm
I’m not sure teams blitz qb’s to injure them. If your primary purpose is to injure a qb, just tell your dline to go for the knees or head and get a 15 yard penalty. Not sure a defensive game plan ever reads “injure their qb”.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:23 pm
Kirk any dumb fan knows knocking out any great player helps you win. Blitzing doesn’t necessarily do that getting hits on him might but that’s not why teams blitz at all. Teams blitz to disrupt the passing game knocking the QB out is just happenstance.
You can kill QB’s with a 4 manrush just as easy…………you’re not making sense.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:25 pm
I think Bres is adding the extra blitzes because of the types of teams and QBs we were playing against. Against the Chargers he is probably going to depend on the front four a lot more though I would not be surprised to see Huff try one or two against Rivers.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:26 pm
129.rob_raider Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 11:18 pm
yeah kirk–that’s the game plan, buddy. and it happens so often. very astute.
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It happens all the time.
The more you beat up the opposing quarterback, the better off you are.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:28 pm
yes–luckily for us, we have knocked out all the qb’s in our wins. and our qb was knocked out in both our losses. ur a brilliant strategist kirk.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:29 pm
If a team finds out a defensive player is trying to injure thier QB then cut blocks can be a (ryhmes with itch).
October 17th, 2011 at 11:29 pm
I just watched us give up a TD pass to Masseguoi from McCoy vs the blitz. because we blitzed so much he finally read it and threw a TD then they got the onside kick and were on offense again to tie the game. Fortunately we stopped them. Blitzing is risky business very risky if you live by it.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:29 pm
their QB
October 17th, 2011 at 11:30 pm
i’m betting u blitz on every play when u play madden. throw hail marys on avery offensive play, and go for it on every 4th down.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:31 pm
136.priesttj Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 11:23 pm
Kirk any dumb fan knows knocking out any great player helps you win. Blitzing doesn’t necessarily do that getting hits on him might but that’s not why teams blitz at all. Teams blitz to disrupt the passing game knocking the QB out is just happenstance.
You can kill QB’s with a 4 manrush just as easy…………you’re not making sense.
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I am making perfect sense. Blitz a lot, but not all the time.
I sat and watched Rob Ryan’s defenses lose game after game because they would not blitz in the fourth quarter.
But I am arguing not the effectiveness of the blitz per se, but the effectiveness of the blitz to injure quarterbacks.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:31 pm
i bet this was heard from kirk on every play in every schoolyard football game he ever played in:
BLITZ!!!!!!!!
October 17th, 2011 at 11:32 pm
I agree Priest, the key is not to live by it but to use it as a tool in the toolbox. It is Las Vegas like when you try something different but it is one of the things that makes football more appealing to me compared to other sports.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:32 pm
Mizza not to worry Kirk is a little misguided he reads to many comics or plays too many video games. Great coaches and QB can make a blitz team bleed.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:33 pm
Kirk Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 11:31 pm
But I am arguing not the effectiveness of the blitz per se, but the effectiveness of the blitz to injure quarterbacks.
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LOL! i love it. “look it may not be effective as a winning strategy, but it sure does increase ur odds of hurting the qb!”
ur real name isn’t mongo is it?
“BLITZ!!!!!!!!!!”
October 17th, 2011 at 11:33 pm
Priest, did you know Al Locasale ?
October 17th, 2011 at 11:34 pm
RoB_ Raider he’s just been sold the same bill of goods most of these guys n here have been sold they all think blitzing is how you win.
Truth be told blitzing is how you get beat……….period
October 17th, 2011 at 11:34 pm
kirk, playing poker:
“ALL-IN!”
October 17th, 2011 at 11:35 pm
Yeah I knew him why? I didn’t spend a lot of time talking to him but we were acquainted.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:36 pm
I have read about him and I used to like the interviews he gave. He was a big part of the Raiders in the 70’s.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:37 pm
i know–if they sat in a team meeting and listened to real players and real coaches talk strategy, their heads would explode.
when they watch one of those gruden qb-specials, and he starts spitting out lingo, their eyes glaze over, and they feel like they’re in a calculus class.
after it’s over, they yell “BLITZ!!!”
October 17th, 2011 at 11:38 pm
I’m a SoCal guy who was a Raiders fan when they were originally the Oakland Raiders. When friends would tease me after they returned to Oakland, I would answer they are returning home and I always have sports bars or air travel.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:38 pm
I used to hide from him and Mr Davis more than anything the guy I know his office was next to Mr LoCasales.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:39 pm
Not hide but more like avoid….
October 17th, 2011 at 11:40 pm
The stories you could tell…….
October 17th, 2011 at 11:40 pm
priest–u r connected w/ the raiders?
October 17th, 2011 at 11:41 pm
150.priesttj Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 11:34 pm
RoB_ Raider he’s just been sold the same bill of goods most of these guys n here have been sold they all think blitzing is how you win.
Truth be told blitzing is how you get beat……….period
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Wrong. Statistics show that blitzing and not blitzing produce almost identical results. So why not blitz 40% of the time and beat up the opposing quarterback?
My guess is you have never really researched the stats. Here they are….
http://www.aolnews.com/2010/12/16/which-quarterbacks-handle-the-blitz-best/
October 17th, 2011 at 11:45 pm
Blitzing depends on the QB playing and the blocking schemes of the opposing OL. Some teams you can blitz a lot and it will work like a charm, others, think Brady or Peyton, will get you burned. I think the Browns and the Texans QBs were more vunerable to the blitz. I doubt if Cassel or especially Rivers, would be vunerable.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:45 pm
Yeah I was close to some other people in the office but I knid of understoood that Mr Davis and Mr LoCasale weren’t to be bothered so I avoided them.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:47 pm
according to the article:
if the blitz doesn’t get you, it also creates openings in the secondary, and sometimes makes it a little easier for the quarterback to figure out what’s going on in the secondary.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:49 pm
It makes sense Priest. From what I have read about Al Davis, he was a man who didn’t like being bothered unless it helped him win.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:50 pm
When Gannon played for the Raiders I loved it when teams would blitz. Tim Brown or Jerry Rice would make them pay.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:50 pm
Blitzing depends on the QB playing and the blocking schemes of the opposing OL. Some teams you can blitz a lot and it will work like a charm, others, think Brady or Peyton, will get you burned. I think the Browns and the Texans QBs were more vunerable to the blitz. I doubt if Cassel or especially Rivers, would be vunerable.
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Actually according to the stats, Brady and Manning are among the most vulnerable quarterbacks to the blitz…
http://www.aolnews.com/2010/12/16/which-quarterbacks-handle-the-blitz-best/
October 17th, 2011 at 11:50 pm
Not sure if I heard on ESPN that Eddie Royal is on the trading block as well? Fox and Elway are setting Tebow up for failure and I find it enjoyable to watch. Cutler/Marshall-traded
Orton (Trading block)/ Lloyd-traded
Go Elway!
October 17th, 2011 at 11:52 pm
yeah–they’re cleaning house. it’s the suck-for-luck campaign. i’m gonna love it when they end up 1-15, but the colts and/or dolphins go 0-16 and get luck in front of them.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:53 pm
Kirk I’ve been tyring to get this across in here for years you have to have a team that is GEARED to blitz and that blitzes very well. That’s why stats don’t mean anything, understand when you read stats you are reading them from a number of teams not one team. Some teams blitz extremely well like Pitts and Philly or the Ravens. That will skew that stats from teams that don’t blitz well and get hurt by it.
Stats are for guys who don’t argue points well they ru to stats hoping they can slant their arguement. Pitts blitzes are out of a 3/4 but often times they only bring 4 rushers but it is called a blitz whenthey bring 5 is when it is truely what I call a blitz.
All you wnat to do is win when rushing the QB and the least amount of players it atkes to do that the better off you are. If you cna get there with 4 why bring 5??? It doesn’t make sense!!
It’s all about disrupting the passing game however you can if you have to blitz OK but it’s better if you don’t have to………………get it!
October 17th, 2011 at 11:56 pm
#166 going by the article, you are right but I still feel for every sack or incomplete pass there is another long gainer or TD made. It also may make more sense with Peyton since his OL last year was bad. I would not want to blitz Peyton or Brady on a regular basis if they had an average or above average OL.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:56 pm
Someone is going to suck for Luck and end up with a hand full of doodoo.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:59 pm
You think pocket QB’s are a thing of the past ? If you are half right about Pryor I will be a very happy Raiders fan.
October 18th, 2011 at 12:00 am
Priest, Heyward Bey is starting to prove you and AD were right.
October 18th, 2011 at 12:01 am
I love the taste of crow if it means the Raiders are winning.
October 18th, 2011 at 12:03 am
I read that and it seems to me every QB taht was any good his stats were a higher compoletion % vs the blitz look at Cassell Brady and Rodgers and Brees all the QB rating is higher vs the blitz.Like I said most good QB’s prefer the blitz because they can dump it off and have it go for a big gain or even a TD.
October 18th, 2011 at 12:04 am
Otis60 Mr Davis was way more right than me with DHB I actually hated the pick when he made it. I only got on board after watching him improve in practice.
October 18th, 2011 at 12:08 am
175.priesttj Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 12:03 am
I read that and it seems to me every QB taht was any good his stats were a higher compoletion % vs the blitz look at Cassell Brady and Rodgers and Brees all the QB rating is higher vs the blitz.Like I said most good QB’s prefer the blitz because they can dump it off and have it go for a big gain or even a TD.
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That is not true. Click on the link…
http://www.aolnews.com/2010/12/16/which-quarterbacks-handle-the-blitz-best/
October 18th, 2011 at 12:08 am
Almost without notice, because the Raiders substitute so much, Desmond Bryant has been the starting right end in place of Matt Shaughnessy for the past two games. Jarvis Moss is introduced as the starter, then Bryant comes in. Makes sense, really, Bryant is bigger and therefore a more stout presence against the run.
-Jerry Mcdonald
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Sorry Method to my Madness, you lose
For Refusing to withdraw fromm your fact that Jarvis Moss was the startong Rde
October 18th, 2011 at 12:10 am
I was very upset when the DHB pick was made but I calmed down a lot after reading the interview with his mother. I knew after that interview no matter how he turned out as a receiver it would not be from lack of trying.
October 18th, 2011 at 12:11 am
re: dhb. i was mixed on the pick. i knew what al was thinking and thought all of the nonsense being spouted was stupid. he was supposed to go late in the 1st. how would it be ok if he was picked 21st but not earlier? a minor reach perhaps. but his college #’s were similar to t.brown’s and he had size and speed. the 1st 2 years had me wondering but that old thing about it akin 3 years for wf’s to emerge is proving true. he right now on pace for 70+ catches and 1100 yards thru 5 games (he missed 1 due to injury). and u can see him gaining confidence more and more.
October 18th, 2011 at 12:12 am
^ then going on to say im not a “real Raider” and were “bashing your name”
lol sorry
October 18th, 2011 at 12:12 am
What Up Nation?
The Raiders are a good Blitzing team. Most of the time when they Blitz, it results in an incomplete pass or a sack. The Raiders have especially had success Blitzing Rivers, Cassel, and Orton.
I can understand the desire to want to see them blitz more. However, part of that success stems from knowing the right opportunities. The timing of the Blitz, and the surprise element are keys to it’s success.
October 18th, 2011 at 12:13 am
It seems to me the team is now using DHB more like Tim Brown instead of Cliff Branch.
October 18th, 2011 at 12:13 am
Otis60 I don’t think poscket passer will ever be a thing of the pass. I think any QB who can play whatever type he is can be very successful pocket or otherwise my point is athletic QB have been victimized by wrong thinking coaches for years. Brady will always be highly successful. It’s just that QB’s like Pryor get pushed aside because they’re so athletic which is backwards thinking. That kid if he is what I think he is can be so dangerous against a defense with his arm and his legs he can be darn near indefenseable. When you see what I mean I think you’ll agree Cam is just a good example of what I’m talking about just wait until Cam actually knows what he’s doing that’s when you’ll see the dynamics of what he has to offer.
October 18th, 2011 at 12:16 am
i liked the pryor pick. i wanted him. he has freakish ability. whether or not he pans out will remain to be seen. it’s hard to know about qb’s. but i would say he’s got a better than 50% chance.
October 18th, 2011 at 12:17 am
We will see this week if blitzing works against Cassell.
October 18th, 2011 at 12:17 am
Dmac, Bush and Jones = Killers.
O-line playing very strong.
Stable of healthy WRs for once.
3 Healthy TE.
Defense on the Rise.
High Scoring Special Teams Unit.
Dam, I don’t think even Boller can mess this up!
Go Raiders!
October 18th, 2011 at 12:18 am
Pryor is a third round pick. It is tough to see a downside to him being picked. I’ll take 50 percent on Pryor because if you win, you win big.
October 18th, 2011 at 12:19 am
Our receivers were getting open against the Browns. If Boller can just be more accurate than the game will be a rout.
October 18th, 2011 at 12:20 am
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October 18th, 2011 at 12:21 am
BigTed707 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 12:17 am
Dmac, Bush and Jones = Killers.
O-line playing very strong.
Stable of healthy WRs for once.
3 Healthy TE.
Defense on the Rise.
High Scoring Special Teams Unit.
Dam, I don’t think even Boller can mess this up!
Go Raiders!
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he can mess it up w/ 3 or 4 picks.
sorry. i’m just not feeling this guy. i’m hoping to hear about a new qb tomorrow. i hope the ndukwe signing means perhaps there’s a trade underway. maybe mitchell involved. i like him but 6 safeties? huff and branch playing well. giordano making plays and getting lots of time. boyd playing a lot (although making mistakes at times). where’s ndukwe fit in?
October 18th, 2011 at 12:22 am
I was wrong about Aaron Curry.
He did not suck.
He was a noticeable improvement in the run game over Q. I hope he continues to improve and make plays.
I also hope Q continues to develop and make plays on special teams.
Start CJ37 if healthy next week? – DVD looks great in coverage, but he is just too small to make the tackle!
October 18th, 2011 at 12:22 am
otis, the problem is boller isn’t accurate. i don’t mean to rain on the parade. i’m not sullivan. but boller’s career has been garbage. i hope i’m wrong.
October 18th, 2011 at 12:24 am
Yeah because I think teams were doubling DHB too much they could get him involved so they’re having him run a different set of routes to get him the ball more. They got smart and listened to their boss. And now they look smarter for it. DHB’s size and speed caqn be utilized on digs and outs even crosses and as well as fly’s they are using him much better thus the production. Pretty soon he’ll run a post and a fly and they’ll hit him. So far they’re using Moore for those and Ford in the slot and it’s working bigtime. DHB is actually their go to guy believe it or not.
October 18th, 2011 at 12:26 am
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October 18th, 2011 at 12:29 am
Moore, Ford and DHB, it is sure nice to have an abundance of riches. Rob, you are not raining on on the parade. I know in my gut it is more than accuracy but I am hoping Boller pulls a rabbit out of his hat. If he can, it is a rout.
October 18th, 2011 at 1:04 am
Does Boller have a good touch on his deep throws. Soup was off on quite a few shots down the field.
October 18th, 2011 at 1:24 am
As dumb of a call not kicking the field goal was, I can understand what Hue wanted to do. He wants to build a bully and he really wanted his first blowout. The team had all these emotions going. Al Davis died, Campbell got hurt, they were coming off a huge road win, they want to win the division. Hue wants the team to believe they are better than their opponents. He wants them to believe they are the bully, they can do fake kicks, flea flickers, reverses, and go for it on fourth and one no matter where they are on the field or what the score is. He wants them to feel they can dominate.
Its going to be fun and the fans are loving it. Hue has everyone believing because he believes and he isnt afraid to show it. I no longer care that it was a bad call. We won and it was a great game for the fans and players alike. Keep it up Hue Jackson, Build that Bully.
October 18th, 2011 at 3:44 am
Yes, Hue did some pretty crazy things. ie. the play right after JC broke his collar bone. Boller comes in and they go for it, on 4th and 1 from the Cleveland 33 yd line!! It worked but that was extremely risky. But they executed that play perfectly because they had a real long count and the defense figured Boller was trying to draw them off sides. As soon as they assumed that was the plan and just before the clock exprired BOOM FIRST DOWN!! AWESOME but CRAZY!! Hue expects his player to “get it done” and he doesn’t mind testing them. This is an awesome year! I knew it would be that is why i renewed my season tickets.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:05 am
Jay glazier tweeted
raiders bengals close to a trade for Palmer.
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