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More Monday thoughts . . .

OK, I realize I’m lagging a little behind in subbing for Steve today, but a few thoughts on today’s news at Raiders headquarters:

– Got a kick out of Hue Jackson still refusing to completely concede that he’d made the wrong call on fourth-and-1 at the Cleveland 5-yard line with 4:49 left.

A point-blank Sebastian Janikowski field goal ends it. It’s 27-10 and three scores ahead. They don’t get it. Cleveland actually gets in position to tie the game.

Jackson said all the right things about the criticism, conceded he was wondering about everything he’d brought down upon his team after the Browns recovered the onsides kick. But he certainly never said he wouldn’t do it again. In fact, at the end, he said he would.

“The game would have been over. There’s no question about it,” Jackson said. “If we had kicked a field goal, you wouldn’t be asking me right now. If we made the touchdown we wouldn’t be asking me about this either.”

Jackson went over every reason why it was a bad idea, but at the end, when asked point blank if he’d kick it in the same situation the next time, he said, “Probably not. Knowing me, probably not.”

Buckle up, Raider fans. This could be a fun ride.

– Almost without notice, because the Raiders substitute so much, Desmond Bryant has been the starting right end in place of Matt Shaughnessy for the past two games. Jarvis Moss is introduced as the starter, then Bryant comes in. Makes sense, really, Bryant is bigger and therefore a more stout presence against the run.

“I think I’ve definitely been developing as a defensive end,” Bryant said. “I’ve already been able to play tackle. I’ve been developing there, too, but I’ve become more well-rounded. I think that’s good for me.”

Good for the Raiders as well. Their defensive line rotation and versatility could be a huge factor over the course of a 16-game season because a lot of players can play in different spots.

Still sounds, by the way, that Shaughnessy is going to be out awhile. Unfortunate for the Raiders, because he had the look of a defensive end who could be something special. Still might be.

When asked about injured players, Jackson said fullback Marcel Reece was “close.” He said the same about Shaughnessy, then corrected himself.

“I shouldn’t say close,” Jackson said. “That could be a little ways away.”

The cynic in me says that means at least a month.

– Quarterback Jason Campbell is a class act. I was out talking on the phone near the players’ exit and saw him getting into a car driven by his fiancee. I fully expected the SUV to go right on past without so much as a wave. The car stopped. Campbell rolled down the window and told me he was headed for surgery, hoped to be be back in six weeks and that he was optimistic. I didn’t have a notebook out at the time, so I wasn’t sure if it was on the record or not. It was OK to pass along, but he wanted it told to other media members as well.

Here’s a guy who gets it. He understands the media is the conduit for information, not necessarily an adversarial relationship. Selfishly, it’s hard not to pull for Jason Campbell.

– Jackson’s explanation of how he goes forward with decisions without Al Davis:

“I talk to Mark (Davis). I talk to Amy (Trask). Those are my two people I spend a lot of time talking to because they’ve been here and they’re people I know the most. Then I pray. I pray hard to make the right decision. I ask for guidance and wisdom . . .I’m not doing anything without Mark Davis and I’m not doing anything without Amy Trask not knowing.”

– Asked Jackson about the increased amount of blitzing the last couple of weeks. Some services who chart this stuff had the Raiders in the 20 percent range entering the Houston game, increasing to the mid-40s against the Texans. The Cleveland game brought more blitzes than any game in recent memory.

“I think that’s pretty specific to our players,” Jackson said. “The things we do is try to put these young men in position to have success. We have some tremendous blitzers. Michael Huff can come off the edge . . .Tyvon Branch, I mean, these guys can come. We’re putting guys in position to do what they do well.”

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  • rob_raider

    kirk, playing poker:

    “ALL-IN!”

  • priesttj

    Yeah I knew him why? I didn’t spend a lot of time talking to him but we were acquainted.

  • Otis60

    I have read about him and I used to like the interviews he gave. He was a big part of the Raiders in the 70′s.

  • rob_raider

    i know–if they sat in a team meeting and listened to real players and real coaches talk strategy, their heads would explode.

    when they watch one of those gruden qb-specials, and he starts spitting out lingo, their eyes glaze over, and they feel like they’re in a calculus class.

    after it’s over, they yell “BLITZ!!!”

  • Otis60

    I’m a SoCal guy who was a Raiders fan when they were originally the Oakland Raiders. When friends would tease me after they returned to Oakland, I would answer they are returning home and I always have sports bars or air travel.

  • priesttj

    I used to hide from him and Mr Davis more than anything the guy I know his office was next to Mr LoCasales.

  • priesttj

    Not hide but more like avoid….

  • Otis60

    The stories you could tell…….

  • rob_raider

    priest–u r connected w/ the raiders?

  • Kirk

    150.priesttj Says:
    October 17th, 2011 at 11:34 pm
    RoB_ Raider he’s just been sold the same bill of goods most of these guys n here have been sold they all think blitzing is how you win.

    Truth be told blitzing is how you get beat……….period

    ……………………………………

    Wrong. Statistics show that blitzing and not blitzing produce almost identical results. So why not blitz 40% of the time and beat up the opposing quarterback?

    My guess is you have never really researched the stats. Here they are….

    http://www.aolnews.com/2010/12/16/which-quarterbacks-handle-the-blitz-best/

  • Otis60

    Blitzing depends on the QB playing and the blocking schemes of the opposing OL. Some teams you can blitz a lot and it will work like a charm, others, think Brady or Peyton, will get you burned. I think the Browns and the Texans QBs were more vunerable to the blitz. I doubt if Cassel or especially Rivers, would be vunerable.

  • priesttj

    Yeah I was close to some other people in the office but I knid of understoood that Mr Davis and Mr LoCasale weren’t to be bothered so I avoided them.

  • rob_raider

    according to the article:

    if the blitz doesn’t get you, it also creates openings in the secondary, and sometimes makes it a little easier for the quarterback to figure out what’s going on in the secondary.

  • Otis60

    It makes sense Priest. From what I have read about Al Davis, he was a man who didn’t like being bothered unless it helped him win.

  • Otis60

    When Gannon played for the Raiders I loved it when teams would blitz. Tim Brown or Jerry Rice would make them pay.

  • Kirk

    Blitzing depends on the QB playing and the blocking schemes of the opposing OL. Some teams you can blitz a lot and it will work like a charm, others, think Brady or Peyton, will get you burned. I think the Browns and the Texans QBs were more vunerable to the blitz. I doubt if Cassel or especially Rivers, would be vunerable.

    ……………………………….

    Actually according to the stats, Brady and Manning are among the most vulnerable quarterbacks to the blitz…

    http://www.aolnews.com/2010/12/16/which-quarterbacks-handle-the-blitz-best/

  • MiamiRaider78

    Not sure if I heard on ESPN that Eddie Royal is on the trading block as well? Fox and Elway are setting Tebow up for failure and I find it enjoyable to watch. Cutler/Marshall-traded
    Orton (Trading block)/ Lloyd-traded

    Go Elway!

  • rob_raider

    yeah–they’re cleaning house. it’s the suck-for-luck campaign. i’m gonna love it when they end up 1-15, but the colts and/or dolphins go 0-16 and get luck in front of them.

  • priesttj

    Kirk I’ve been tyring to get this across in here for years you have to have a team that is GEARED to blitz and that blitzes very well. That’s why stats don’t mean anything, understand when you read stats you are reading them from a number of teams not one team. Some teams blitz extremely well like Pitts and Philly or the Ravens. That will skew that stats from teams that don’t blitz well and get hurt by it.

    Stats are for guys who don’t argue points well they ru to stats hoping they can slant their arguement. Pitts blitzes are out of a 3/4 but often times they only bring 4 rushers but it is called a blitz whenthey bring 5 is when it is truely what I call a blitz.

    All you wnat to do is win when rushing the QB and the least amount of players it atkes to do that the better off you are. If you cna get there with 4 why bring 5??? It doesn’t make sense!!

    It’s all about disrupting the passing game however you can if you have to blitz OK but it’s better if you don’t have to………………get it!

  • Otis60

    #166 going by the article, you are right but I still feel for every sack or incomplete pass there is another long gainer or TD made. It also may make more sense with Peyton since his OL last year was bad. I would not want to blitz Peyton or Brady on a regular basis if they had an average or above average OL.

  • priesttj

    Someone is going to suck for Luck and end up with a hand full of doodoo.

  • Otis60

    You think pocket QB’s are a thing of the past ? If you are half right about Pryor I will be a very happy Raiders fan.

  • Otis60

    Priest, Heyward Bey is starting to prove you and AD were right.

  • Otis60

    I love the taste of crow if it means the Raiders are winning.

  • priesttj

    I read that and it seems to me every QB taht was any good his stats were a higher compoletion % vs the blitz look at Cassell Brady and Rodgers and Brees all the QB rating is higher vs the blitz.Like I said most good QB’s prefer the blitz because they can dump it off and have it go for a big gain or even a TD.

  • priesttj

    Otis60 Mr Davis was way more right than me with DHB I actually hated the pick when he made it. I only got on board after watching him improve in practice.

  • Kirk

    175.priesttj Says:
    October 18th, 2011 at 12:03 am
    I read that and it seems to me every QB taht was any good his stats were a higher compoletion % vs the blitz look at Cassell Brady and Rodgers and Brees all the QB rating is higher vs the blitz.Like I said most good QB’s prefer the blitz because they can dump it off and have it go for a big gain or even a TD.

    ………………………………………..

    That is not true. Click on the link…

    http://www.aolnews.com/2010/12/16/which-quarterbacks-handle-the-blitz-best/

  • Tjbwall

    Almost without notice, because the Raiders substitute so much, Desmond Bryant has been the starting right end in place of Matt Shaughnessy for the past two games. Jarvis Moss is introduced as the starter, then Bryant comes in. Makes sense, really, Bryant is bigger and therefore a more stout presence against the run.

    -Jerry Mcdonald
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    Sorry Method to my Madness, you lose

    For Refusing to withdraw fromm your fact that Jarvis Moss was the startong Rde

  • Otis60

    I was very upset when the DHB pick was made but I calmed down a lot after reading the interview with his mother. I knew after that interview no matter how he turned out as a receiver it would not be from lack of trying.

  • rob_raider

    re: dhb. i was mixed on the pick. i knew what al was thinking and thought all of the nonsense being spouted was stupid. he was supposed to go late in the 1st. how would it be ok if he was picked 21st but not earlier? a minor reach perhaps. but his college #’s were similar to t.brown’s and he had size and speed. the 1st 2 years had me wondering but that old thing about it akin 3 years for wf’s to emerge is proving true. he right now on pace for 70+ catches and 1100 yards thru 5 games (he missed 1 due to injury). and u can see him gaining confidence more and more.

  • Tjbwall

    ^ then going on to say im not a “real Raider” and were “bashing your name”

    lol sorry

  • http://www.tedhendricks.com/Ted_vs_Montana.jpg BigTed707

    What Up Nation?

    The Raiders are a good Blitzing team. Most of the time when they Blitz, it results in an incomplete pass or a sack. The Raiders have especially had success Blitzing Rivers, Cassel, and Orton.

    I can understand the desire to want to see them blitz more. However, part of that success stems from knowing the right opportunities. The timing of the Blitz, and the surprise element are keys to it’s success.

  • Otis60

    It seems to me the team is now using DHB more like Tim Brown instead of Cliff Branch.

  • priesttj

    Otis60 I don’t think poscket passer will ever be a thing of the pass. I think any QB who can play whatever type he is can be very successful pocket or otherwise my point is athletic QB have been victimized by wrong thinking coaches for years. Brady will always be highly successful. It’s just that QB’s like Pryor get pushed aside because they’re so athletic which is backwards thinking. That kid if he is what I think he is can be so dangerous against a defense with his arm and his legs he can be darn near indefenseable. When you see what I mean I think you’ll agree Cam is just a good example of what I’m talking about just wait until Cam actually knows what he’s doing that’s when you’ll see the dynamics of what he has to offer.

  • rob_raider

    i liked the pryor pick. i wanted him. he has freakish ability. whether or not he pans out will remain to be seen. it’s hard to know about qb’s. but i would say he’s got a better than 50% chance.

  • Otis60

    We will see this week if blitzing works against Cassell.

  • http://www.tedhendricks.com/Ted_vs_Montana.jpg BigTed707

    Dmac, Bush and Jones = Killers.

    O-line playing very strong.

    Stable of healthy WRs for once.

    3 Healthy TE.

    Defense on the Rise.

    High Scoring Special Teams Unit.

    Dam, I don’t think even Boller can mess this up!

    Go Raiders!

  • Otis60

    Pryor is a third round pick. It is tough to see a downside to him being picked. I’ll take 50 percent on Pryor because if you win, you win big.

  • Otis60

    Our receivers were getting open against the Browns. If Boller can just be more accurate than the game will be a rout.

  • Otis60

    then

  • rob_raider

    BigTed707 Says:
    October 18th, 2011 at 12:17 am
    Dmac, Bush and Jones = Killers.

    O-line playing very strong.

    Stable of healthy WRs for once.

    3 Healthy TE.

    Defense on the Rise.

    High Scoring Special Teams Unit.

    Dam, I don’t think even Boller can mess this up!

    Go Raiders!
    ******************

    he can mess it up w/ 3 or 4 picks.

    sorry. i’m just not feeling this guy. i’m hoping to hear about a new qb tomorrow. i hope the ndukwe signing means perhaps there’s a trade underway. maybe mitchell involved. i like him but 6 safeties? huff and branch playing well. giordano making plays and getting lots of time. boyd playing a lot (although making mistakes at times). where’s ndukwe fit in?

  • http://www.tedhendricks.com/Ted_vs_Montana.jpg BigTed707

    I was wrong about Aaron Curry.

    He did not suck.

    He was a noticeable improvement in the run game over Q. I hope he continues to improve and make plays.

    I also hope Q continues to develop and make plays on special teams.

    Start CJ37 if healthy next week? – DVD looks great in coverage, but he is just too small to make the tackle!

  • rob_raider

    otis, the problem is boller isn’t accurate. i don’t mean to rain on the parade. i’m not sullivan. but boller’s career has been garbage. i hope i’m wrong.

  • priesttj

    Yeah because I think teams were doubling DHB too much they could get him involved so they’re having him run a different set of routes to get him the ball more. They got smart and listened to their boss. And now they look smarter for it. DHB’s size and speed caqn be utilized on digs and outs even crosses and as well as fly’s they are using him much better thus the production. Pretty soon he’ll run a post and a fly and they’ll hit him. So far they’re using Moore for those and Ford in the slot and it’s working bigtime. DHB is actually their go to guy believe it or not.

  • http://www.tedhendricks.com/Ted_vs_Montana.jpg BigTed707

    new post

  • Otis60

    Moore, Ford and DHB, it is sure nice to have an abundance of riches. Rob, you are not raining on on the parade. I know in my gut it is more than accuracy but I am hoping Boller pulls a rabbit out of his hat. If he can, it is a rout.

  • MiamiRaider78

    Does Boller have a good touch on his deep throws. Soup was off on quite a few shots down the field.

  • uglyorc

    As dumb of a call not kicking the field goal was, I can understand what Hue wanted to do. He wants to build a bully and he really wanted his first blowout. The team had all these emotions going. Al Davis died, Campbell got hurt, they were coming off a huge road win, they want to win the division. Hue wants the team to believe they are better than their opponents. He wants them to believe they are the bully, they can do fake kicks, flea flickers, reverses, and go for it on fourth and one no matter where they are on the field or what the score is. He wants them to feel they can dominate.

    Its going to be fun and the fans are loving it. Hue has everyone believing because he believes and he isnt afraid to show it. I no longer care that it was a bad call. We won and it was a great game for the fans and players alike. Keep it up Hue Jackson, Build that Bully.

  • sirblitzalot

    Yes, Hue did some pretty crazy things. ie. the play right after JC broke his collar bone. Boller comes in and they go for it, on 4th and 1 from the Cleveland 33 yd line!! It worked but that was extremely risky. But they executed that play perfectly because they had a real long count and the defense figured Boller was trying to draw them off sides. As soon as they assumed that was the plan and just before the clock exprired BOOM FIRST DOWN!! AWESOME but CRAZY!! Hue expects his player to “get it done” and he doesn’t mind testing them. This is an awesome year! I knew it would be that is why i renewed my season tickets.

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