DT Seymour, former Raiders QB Gannon on Palmer trade
By Steve Corkran
Tuesday, October 18th, 2011 at 3:54 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Here’s the transcript of an interview conducted by former Raiders quarterback Rich Gannon with Raiders defensive tackle Richard Seymour today on SiriusXM NFL Radio:
Gannon: “Let’s start with [Bengals owner] Mike Brown first and foremost. You know, he gets a lot of criticism for the way he’s run that organization over the years but he does come out, in this situation, like a genius. I mean, I think he showed great patience, he rolled the dice in a big way, had teams not lost quarterbacks or had a real need, maybe Carson Palmer would’ve sat the entire year. I think he kinda dug his feet into the ground and said, ‘Hey listen, here’s how we’re going to do this thing, we’re not going to deal Palmer.’ I think he sent that message out right up to the trade deadline. It’s a game of kind of Russian Roulette and it worked out well for him. To think they could pick up a first rounder this year, a potential first round or second round pick next year, I mean, what a great deal for the Bengals.”
Gannon: “Now, on the flipside, let’s look at it from the Oakland Raiders’ perspective. [Head coach] Hue Jackson goes back with Carson Palmer a long, long way. They were together at USC when Carson was in college, they were together in Cincinnati, they have a very close relationship. My sense is that they were probably talking along the way. I’m sure Carson’s reached out to him for advice. I’m not so sure that Hue Jackson was convinced or sold on Jason Campbell. I think that was an Al Davis deal. Hue was doing the best he could. I think when Jason went down this opened up the door [to the] the possibility that they could do something with Carson. I think they got together as a staff, as an organization and said, ‘Let’s put our best foot forward and let’s see if we can address the quarterback situation for awhile.’ If they bring in Carson Palmer that’s it for Jason Campbell. You’re looking at Carson being the starting quarterback there for the next half dozen years. He is 31 years old, some people feel like his best days are behind him, but you look at what the Raiders gave up, not much of a draft left in 2012. The first four picks are all gone; they only have a 5 and a 6 left. I know there was some talk about they explored the possibility of a potential trade with Philadelphia for Vince Young. In my opinion, this is a much better deal for the Raiders. They get Carson Palmer, he can step in there and start tomorrow, he understands the system. I think this is great news if you’re a Raiders fan.”
Seymour then joins Gannon and his co-host Adam Schein on SiriusXM NFL Radio today to discuss the Palmer trade:
Seymour: “One thing that I can take from Carson is just him being a field general out on the field and his leadership ability to get some interesting guys together and try to get them all on the same page. I really remember him being out on the field and, in a sense, directing traffic, getting guys lined up and putting them in the right position. Obviously, it’ll be a learning curve for him because he hasn’t played football in awhile but I’m excited to have a leader on that side of the ball of his caliber. Anytime you have an opportunity to acquire someone of Carson’s pedigree I don’t think it’s something that you can pass up on. When you look at it, Carson and Hue Jackson’s days, they go back to USC when Carson was the Heisman Trophy winner, the first pick in the NFL Draft and a Pro Bowl quarterback. Just with that pedigree alone I think it brings a lot to what we’re trying to do and I think it’s also a statement from the Raiders in terms of the commitment to excellence. This is just another key ingredient to what we’re trying to accomplish.”
Seymour: “We’re going to welcome Carson in with open arms and have him be a part of the commitment to excellence here. I think this move was just another example of the Raiders’ commitment to excellence.”
On Jason Campbell:
Gannon: “I know this a part of the business but you’ve got to feel bad for Jason Campbell. I know he’s worked so hard at this. I thought he showed great leadership, along with yourself in the offseason, getting the players together to work out. What are your thoughts on what he’s going through right now?”
Seymour: “It has to be tough for him. Jason is a guy I have a ton of respect for. He’s one of the first guys into the building and one of the last to leave. He’s a total team player. Whatever is best for everybody, not necessarily what’s best for Jason, is what he’s all about. You can never have enough guys like that on your team. He obviously got the receivers together to get their timing down in the offseason. So Jason’s still going to be a leader for us and you never know when your number is going to be called in this business again.”
On the cost of acquiring Palmer:
Schein: “You’re a player. You want to win a Super Bowl right now, you want to make the playoffs right now. Do you care about the future necessarily in terms of trading all these draft picks? I’m asking you these questions because it’s part of the story here when you take a look at giving up all the draft picks for next year, when you look at Carson and Pryor and Campbell, you know, you guys don’t have a draft. You came from a place (New England) where they live for the Draft and they were successful stockpiling in the NFL Draft. Does that concern you?”
Seymour: “Well, in my eyes, back when I won the Super Bowl, we won the Super Bowl in 2004. It’s 2011 now so you can have as many Draft picks as you want to and say, ‘I have a good team,’ but at the end of the day, you know, the Packers are the only team that at the end of the day say, ‘Hey, we got it done.’ Obviously, you want to make smart business decisions in everything that you do. I mean, there was a lot of ‘Should they do it or shouldn’t they do it?’ in the process of picking me so it’s always going to be both sides of the spectrum. But at the end of the day it’s what that player does when he gets there that decides: Was it a good deal or wasn’t it a good deal? So, you know, it still remains to be seen. That chapter is still open.”
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October 18th, 2011 at 3:55 pm
It would be interesting if the Raiders met the Bengals in the playoffs and a Benglas loss meant they got a #1 pick.
October 18th, 2011 at 3:56 pm
Just Win Baby! Sweet!
October 18th, 2011 at 3:56 pm
Yesssssssssssssssssssssss
finally a white QB…just saying
October 18th, 2011 at 3:57 pm
They’ve been putting together all of the pieces that we need to contend for a Super Bowl. That’s our goal;
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For you guys that say oh maybe in 3, 5, 7, 8, years we can get it done…
F that Coach JACKSON is saying we need to get it done now….
COACH JACKSON <—-Putting it down HARD for the NATION…
October 18th, 2011 at 3:57 pm
idk how i feel about this trade, he needs to be an all pro for atleast 3 years to justify it.
October 18th, 2011 at 3:58 pm
Press conferences are going to be a lot less interesting now.
October 18th, 2011 at 3:59 pm
HowieLongsNeckPad Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 3:56 pm
Yesssssssssssssssssssssss
finally a white QB…just saying
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Are you Raider Ray?
October 18th, 2011 at 3:59 pm
Thank you for all your hard work Jason Campbell. I am hoping you will stay in the Silver and Black!
October 18th, 2011 at 3:59 pm
RaiderLen Says:
Repost…….
October 18th, 2011 at 3:43 pm
For all of the GM’s and numbers crunchers out there.
NFL Draft Pick Value chart.
1st round (2012)….22nd pick….780 points.
2nd round (2013)….22nd pick….360 points. (worth less because its in a “future year” but just trying to keep it simple.)
Total points….1140 points
1140 points equals a 1st round 13th pick in the 2012 draft.
Making an assumption that the Raiders will pick no higher than 22nd, this is a fair assessment of the actual price we are paying.
October 18th, 2011 at 4:00 pm
Yesssss
October 18th, 2011 at 4:00 pm
Let’s get her done Carson Palmer! Just Win Baby!
October 18th, 2011 at 4:02 pm
Hue on NFLN:
“Mark Davis is in charge!”
Ok Hue. CP was all YOU Hue! Lol!
October 18th, 2011 at 4:02 pm
Chop Chop Raiders! GOD BLESS Mark Davis!
October 18th, 2011 at 4:02 pm
Denarious Moore is licking his chops right now. Palmer throws a sweet catchable deep ball.
October 18th, 2011 at 4:02 pm
#7 no
October 18th, 2011 at 4:03 pm
So what, did Cinci include vaseline too or did we have to throw in some future considerations for that privilege as well?
October 18th, 2011 at 4:04 pm
When asked if CP was gonna start on Sunday…
“You think I’m gonna tell you that right now? You know me better than that!”
Good Hue! Keep KC guessing!
CP on now.
October 18th, 2011 at 4:04 pm
GOD BLESS America!
October 18th, 2011 at 4:07 pm
Absolutely we will miss Campbell. I like Kyle Boller too. The Raiders are where it’s at Baby! Just Win Baby! I am too excited. lol
October 18th, 2011 at 4:07 pm
so if lito’s in does that mean Cj to IR?
October 18th, 2011 at 4:09 pm
CP3
I’m out. Be good.
October 18th, 2011 at 4:09 pm
So. Raiders are a pretty young team. Really dont have too many draft needs, we are stock piled with young players across the board. DT is a concern, but heck, weve been finding big dudes in free agency for a while.
Who cares if you give up a 1st rounder or two. I would give up 6 first round picks for 6 years of PManning or TBrady….sure hope this trade works!!!!
October 18th, 2011 at 4:09 pm
In my oipion, Palmer is just as good as R. Gannon.
October 18th, 2011 at 4:10 pm
oops I mean opinion…typo mistake.
October 18th, 2011 at 4:10 pm
CorkOnTheNFL Steve Corkran
Coach Jackson says, “This is the person that I think we need to add in order to get to where I want to take this organization” re: Palmer.
October 18th, 2011 at 4:11 pm
For being an absolute out of control beast at times, Seymour gives a good interview. So much more interesting than the usual T Kelley interview.
October 18th, 2011 at 4:12 pm
CorkOnTheNFL Steve Corkran
Carson Palmer says he feels a “tremendous burden” in regard to pressure of being traded to #Raiders.
what kind of dumb schit to say is that? Just play well dumba$$
October 18th, 2011 at 4:12 pm
Yeah, that’s it – I’m also Charged Down.
It makes perfect sense that I’d create a character who aspires to be me, EXCEPT that he’s less interesting and successful in every way.
That’s as ridiculous as Madden Retard creating a character named Albert Bigelo Puss who is also a dim witted momma’s boy with lame jokes.
Oooops, not a good comparison, huh bros?
October 18th, 2011 at 4:13 pm
CorkOnTheNFL Steve Corkran
#Raiders coach Hue Jackson says trade for QB Carson Palmer is “greatest trade in football.”
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Coach Hue Jackson says Mark Davis “spearheads this whole thing” in response to report that Jackson makes all the moves.
October 18th, 2011 at 4:13 pm
Palmer aint no Gannon….yet we want him to be Plunkett, not Gannon.
October 18th, 2011 at 4:13 pm
Steve Corkran say’s that two big names that left the Raiders besides Trent Edwards had serious issues with Hue Jackson. I wonder who those names are? I am guessing Grads and I can’t think of another. Maybe Garcia.
October 18th, 2011 at 4:13 pm
CP: “I am fully recovered from the 08 elbow injury. It is my job to show that I am healthy”
Hue: It’s not about the numbers…it’s about the man, and I KNOW Carson Palmer”
Hue also said in his opinion “This is the greatest trade in football ever made”
Hue showing confidence and trust in his team going forward. I like it! And, I LOVE Hue!
October 18th, 2011 at 4:14 pm
HowieLongsNeckPad Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 3:56 pm
Yesssssssssssssssssssssss
finally a white QB…just saying
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i’m white and i say………….STFU u moron!
October 18th, 2011 at 4:14 pm
Kurt Warner apparently has alzheimers:
I think it can definitely be difficult. I don’t think very many people have been through this; I know I haven’t been through a situation like this so I can’t speak from expertise.
Kurt, you were bagging groceries, got a call to tryout with the Rams, a couple weeks into the season Trent Green gets hurt and you’re thrown into the starting QB spot with no prior NFL experience!!
October 18th, 2011 at 4:14 pm
When the hell did 2 big names leave? Nnamdi? Gallery?
October 18th, 2011 at 4:15 pm
CorkOnTheNFL Steve Corkran
Carson Palmer says he’s “fully recovered” from elbow injury and that he is throwing the ball as well as ever.
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CorkOnTheNFL Steve Corkran
Coach Jackson about Carson Palmer, “One thing I know about coach (Al Davis), he loved tall, athletic quarterbacks from USC.”
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CorkOnTheNFL Steve Corkran
Coach Jackson says, “This isn’t about numbers, this is about the person.” Adds that he’s not concerned about Palmer’s past.
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CorkOnTheNFL Steve Corkran
Palmer says, “I’m ready to go. I’m excited. I’m honored.”
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October 18th, 2011 at 4:15 pm
You guys trashing JC after what he has done for the stability and SANITY for THIS team is just plain wrong. All joking aside, just wrong. JC was poised to get this team playoff bound and it was him that had to help alon the DHBs and Fords etc. Provided leadership and a role model on a team that SORELY needed one.
Just shows that life will throw some big time curves ones way. To go from leading a real resurgance for a storied franchise, playoffs and more and a new contract to NOTHING!
You all need a touch of class! I was honored to see JC live last week fight it out! Nothing but respect for the man!
October 18th, 2011 at 4:15 pm
Hue also said in his opinion “This is the greatest trade in football ever made”
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LOL, Hue better lay off the ecstazy!
October 18th, 2011 at 4:16 pm
Hey Jer, thanks for the posts yeterday regarding us riding with Boller and some scrub named Bouman, or McCown! LMAO!!
October 18th, 2011 at 4:16 pm
NFLN Fan Poll:
Who got better end of the deal?
-Raiders 62 %
-Bengals 38 %
…for what it’s worth.
October 18th, 2011 at 4:17 pm
Ha, Nob Raider, my personal whipping boy, shows up on the blog for yet another hysterical beat down.
Great to have you back, my humble minion!
October 18th, 2011 at 4:17 pm
Steve Corkran say’s that two big names that left the Raiders besides Trent Edwards had serious issues with Hue Jackson
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my guess gallery and zmiller, sounds like nnamdi wanted to come back
October 18th, 2011 at 4:18 pm
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8233f242/article/bengals-lewis-calls-palmer-trade-a-good-deal-for-both-clubs
Bengals receiver Andre Caldwell, appearing on NFL Network’s “Around The League,” said Tuesday that there was some resentment amongst the Bengals players directed at Palmer.
“We all felt that he bailed out on us,” Caldwell said of Palmer. “He was a leader in our locker room and we felt he just didn’t want to be with us. We took it kind of personal but we have a great guy in Andy Dalton that’s leading us and we put that in our past.”
October 18th, 2011 at 4:19 pm
Damn them at NFL. only showed 10 minutes of the press conference. anybody know where i can see the whole thing in it’s entirety?
October 18th, 2011 at 4:19 pm
464.bcz24 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 3:49 pm
Here’s something that begs to question. Its been said by numerous sources that Hue and Al worked on this since training camp, but had decided to wait it out until the offseason for the price to come down. Is it tampering if the player is retired? Could Hue have told Palmer all along he was going to be a Raider next year, and given him something resembling our playbook to work on, and JC’s injury just have expedited the inevitable?
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If they didn’t talk trade it’s okay not tampering. No public statements or meeting with agents. Remember, Palmer never filed retirement papers so the Raiders had to be very careful.
October 18th, 2011 at 4:19 pm
Boller will start vs. KC. If he falters, they’ll throw Palmer in there. But Palmer does not sound ready to play at all
October 18th, 2011 at 4:19 pm
Zach Miller just swallowed his shoe. Instead of Tarvaris throwing lazers at his shoelace he could have been catching darts from Palmer…..dammmmm
October 18th, 2011 at 4:20 pm
37.SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 4:15 pm
You guys trashing JC after what he has done for the stability and SANITY for THIS team is just plain wrong. All joking aside, just wrong. JC was poised to get this team playoff bound and it was him that had to help alon the DHBs and Fords etc. Provided leadership and a role model on a team that SORELY needed one.
Just shows that life will throw some big time curves ones way. To go from leading a real resurgance for a storied franchise, playoffs and more and a new contract to NOTHING!
You all need a touch of class! I was honored to see JC live last week fight it out! Nothing but respect for the man!
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Raiders couldn’t NOT make the trade out of respect for JC’s feelings.
I feel real bad for JC too. He was a team player.
I can’t say he was totally unselfish though cuz I thought he intentionally played too cautious so as not to pad his interceptions.
You have to be a little risky to be a great QB. It may sound weird but I don’t think he was “risky” enough.
October 18th, 2011 at 4:20 pm
RaydaSwagger Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 4:13 pm
Steve Corkran say’s that two big names that left the Raiders besides Trent Edwards had serious issues with Hue Jackson. I wonder who those names are? I am guessing Grads and I can’t think of another. Maybe Garcia.
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It’s Miller and Gallery probably
October 18th, 2011 at 4:21 pm
inonewordraider Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 4:17 pm
Steve Corkran say’s that two big names that left the Raiders besides Trent Edwards had serious issues with Hue Jackson
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my guess gallery and zmiller, sounds like nnamdi wanted to come back
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Cable guys to the core. I hope they like Pete.
October 18th, 2011 at 4:22 pm
I’m sure Raiders dot com will have the press conference in a few….
October 18th, 2011 at 4:22 pm
Truth is JC wasnt going to win too many games on his arm, he needed the running game bad. I think CPalmer gives us a better chance against tough run teams like Baltimore and Pitt. Hope Im right.
October 18th, 2011 at 4:22 pm
Beeecham, you are totally Charged Down! Why, because nobody on this blog pays any attention to your lame and delusional postings. You had to create someone like Charged Down so you would have someone to interact with.
October 18th, 2011 at 4:23 pm
I thought we had a shot at a sb with JC. I look at the AFC with JC and who’s better? NE Balt? By years end we would have had a good shot. But things happen and obviously Hue thinks Carson gives us a better shot than Boller and is worth the price. If he plays like Carson in his prime, which is unlikely but possible 3 years after the surgery, no doubt it’s worth it. But even if he has us in the playoffs next 3 out of the next 5 years it’s worth it in my opinion
October 18th, 2011 at 4:23 pm
Later nation!
October 18th, 2011 at 4:24 pm
Zach Miller was a fool to leave. Hopefully Palmer gets Boss more involved. I can’t understand why he disappeared the last two weeks. JC never threw it to him.
October 18th, 2011 at 4:24 pm
what’s the problem guys? look at the #’s. palmer is still very good. almost 4000 yards last year. at 31, still in his prime. 5 good years from him. we’re talking a star qb here. draft picks? u mean the things that work out to various degrees about 50% of the time? so we would pick a guy in the lower 3rd of the 1st round the next 2 seasons. would that player be a star qb? would he be a star anything? maybe, maybe not. this is a sure thing. a known commodity. the offense will be top 5 now for sure. u guys still wanna “build for the future”? f*ck that! we’re going for it now! get excited. the journey continues sunday! the super bowl is in reach!
October 18th, 2011 at 4:25 pm
Kitna just said that Palmer was the best teammate he ever had
October 18th, 2011 at 4:25 pm
Does anyone know what is going on with Lito Sheppard? I’ve heard that he worked out and that he RE-signed, but can’t find any confirmation anywhere.
October 18th, 2011 at 4:25 pm
Whats up Justin!
October 18th, 2011 at 4:25 pm
You gotta like the trade by Hue…
1. Its a 1st and a conditional first rd, ( based on if the raiders go to the AFC championship game). If Carson gets us there, its worth it.
2. Winning changes makes everything better. i.e. winning helps us resign our free agents, get other free agents and bring in better coaches.
3. I dont buy the idea that teams are built on the draft..its BS, The patriots, Packers, Saints, and the colts ( w/manning) all are dominate, not bc of there drafting..its the QB
And plain and simple….QB’s win games. ask the colts
October 18th, 2011 at 4:27 pm
CorkOnTheNFL Steve Corkran
“I’m healthy. I’m 100 percent healthy.” — Palmer on health concerns
CorkOnTheNFL Steve Corkran
Palmer says he will hit the playbook, study videotape, etc., as soon as the news conference ends.
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let’s hope so
October 18th, 2011 at 4:30 pm
You talking to me?
October 18th, 2011 at 4:30 pm
CorkOnTheNFL Steve Corkran
Coach Jackson on future: “We have a very creative staff. We know how to attack it head on, and we will.”
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YES! Ppl are gonna bring the house on the “immobile” CP, Reece Boss and Ford will have some fun with it
October 18th, 2011 at 4:30 pm
Calm down, Albert Puss/MR. Don’t pop a blood vessel in your pre-pubescent excitement.
I’m sure this is why your mommy worries about you, locked away in the garage with a laptop, nothing but Slim Jims and a 12 pack of Jolt for nourishment.
Poor little dude!
October 18th, 2011 at 4:31 pm
Gannon: “I’m not so sure that Hue Jackson was convinced or sold on Jason Campbell. I think that was an Al Davis deal…”
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Duh!
October 18th, 2011 at 4:31 pm
i just watched every highlight on youtube of palmer and he has throws jason could never think of and cannot make, he aint that bad on his feet either, peeps making him out like he cant move, he looks far more relaxed than jason in the pocket..
October 18th, 2011 at 4:31 pm
CorkOnTheNFL Steve Corkran
Coach Jackson on added workload: “I’m the head coach of the football team. I’m not playing G.M. I know a lot of people think that.”
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October 18th, 2011 at 4:31 pm
Merry Christmas Raider Nation.
October 18th, 2011 at 4:32 pm
Another Heisman Trophy winner to add to the collection !
October 18th, 2011 at 4:32 pm
he aint that bad on his feet either, peeps making him out like he cant move
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very mobile out of USC, lost a step after surgery, sometimes it takes a while to get that back tho, hopefully…
October 18th, 2011 at 4:32 pm
The guys on one of the bspn shows, most ex players/coaches were wondering how freaking bad it must be in Cincy.
The fact that Palmer a competitor in the NFL is willing to say fug it I’m done if i have to play here.
I kinda wish Moss had done the same move his last active year with the Raids. Moss and Sapp.
October 18th, 2011 at 4:33 pm
Like I said, I’m on record for being 100% behind the guy now that he’s a Raider. Just think the jury is still out on his character until he shows us all he’s willing to be 100% accountable for his play and the team’s success which is largely dependent on his play/decision-making. He better ride thru the fire with each and every one of us if ish hits the fan and not do a Sapp/Moss on us…..
October 18th, 2011 at 4:33 pm
“I didn’t like the matchup”
“There’s no matchup, it’s cover 2!”
Guarantee you that plays a role in Jackson’s decision to replace Campbell.
October 18th, 2011 at 4:33 pm
Don’t get me wrong. I am about business too. Have to be in my job. So I support the move in totality AND JC obviously didn’t dominate in a way to make the job his in Hue’s eye. I agree with that. JC was a decent QB, not great.
What I don’t support is some of you trashing a guy who really did what this team sorely needed after JaBust and got these young receivers started. The man deserves Raider Nation respect. Some of you guys are treating hime like aaron brooks or josh mccown.
Without JC these last 1.5 yrs, the team is still inept and we aren’t even in a position to dare to dream as big as we rightfully are now.
I dish out plenty of criticism, even to JC, but he deserves a little better than the comments I’ve read in this blog
October 18th, 2011 at 4:34 pm
wow. Been at work all day, just saw the news of the day
and again
Palmer’s only 32, kinda young for the QB position when a guy hasn’t run around and gotten physically beat up his entire career. A knee surgery does not sap the body of talent/strength the way McNabb running around all his career did.
October 18th, 2011 at 4:34 pm
CorkOnTheNFL Fun fact: Carson Palmer and former Raiders coach Norv Turner are neighbors in Del Mar.
about 2 hours ago
October 18th, 2011 at 4:35 pm
Maddenraideralex7sullivan44 one minute apart, LMFAO!
October 18th, 2011 at 4:36 pm
909 – Carson better get a Cane Corso or some other beast to protect our playbook from sneaky ‘ole Norv next door!
October 18th, 2011 at 4:36 pm
The fact that Palmer a competitor in the NFL is willing to say fug it I’m done if i have to play here.
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Barry Sanders retired because of situation in Detroit, Raider fan by the way
October 18th, 2011 at 4:36 pm
In the playoffs I want to beat the Bengals, Bills, and Pats. Then we can defeat the Niners in the SB.
October 18th, 2011 at 4:36 pm
71.inonewordraider Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 4:32 pm
he aint that bad on his feet either, peeps making him out like he cant move
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very mobile out of USC, lost a step after surgery, sometimes it takes a while to get that back tho, hopefully…
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true, his stepping up inside the outdie rushers and taking off down the middle looked good, this was 09 highlights tho. how big is dude?
October 18th, 2011 at 4:36 pm
carson will earn 2.5 mill this year but 13, 14, 15 next 3 years …. mcfaddens monster deal pending for next year, wow, more restructuring thats for sure … if bush gets high outside value inerest, he will be a gonner after season.
October 18th, 2011 at 4:36 pm
Sullivan,
what’s that cover 2 quote from? An earlier post here? Sounds interesting.
October 18th, 2011 at 4:37 pm
timkawakami Tim Kawakami
by CorkOnTheNFL
Hue Jackson, you doth protest too much: So much time spent sayng he’s not in control only backs up that he’s in control. Which is fine.
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October 18th, 2011 at 4:37 pm
What a difference a week makes. The Raiders went from being an organization full of questions to being outright mobilized and ready to compete in this league’s top tier. Just think, 10 days ago Al was still in charge, Jason Campbell was still the long term answer…we were really looking down the barrel of 7-9. We’re looking at 10-6 now, probably divisional playoffs, if not better. It’s all just so weird.
October 18th, 2011 at 4:38 pm
So, worst case outcome………
Anyone have a problem giving up the 15th pick in 2012 draft ?
And the 47th pick in 2013?
This deal is a no brainer.
Many are hung up on 1st and or 2nd round picks without evaluating the actual value of the picks.
October 18th, 2011 at 4:38 pm
We added Lito? Didnt we already cut him?
October 18th, 2011 at 4:38 pm
Does the Wiz @ C era start now?
October 18th, 2011 at 4:38 pm
Cincy coach interview, quoting Mike Brown, “we tolerate you, until we don’t need you” lmfao!
October 18th, 2011 at 4:38 pm
Alex7WhatsADrexelMR
all one minute apart! ummm?
October 18th, 2011 at 4:39 pm
RaiderLen Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 4:38 pm
So, worst case outcome………
Anyone have a problem giving up the 15th pick in 2012 draft ?
And the 47th pick in 2013?
This deal is a no brainer.
Many are hung up on 1st and or 2nd round picks without evaluating the actual value of the picks.
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Worst case scenario:
Palmer gets injured, Raiders lose last 10 games and finish 4-12, no #1 pick.
October 18th, 2011 at 4:39 pm
Alex 7, Hue and Campbell were miked up for NFL network in the N.E. game. That’s what they said to each other after the Wilfork pick.
October 18th, 2011 at 4:40 pm
RaiderLen,
IMO, Giving up a mid 1st round pick for a legit QB is better than giving up a mid 1st round pick for a legit DT.
October 18th, 2011 at 4:40 pm
#84
I believe that quote comes from when Hue was Mic’d up against the Pats.
October 18th, 2011 at 4:40 pm
Sullivan, Albert, Raccoon, Alex, RaiderTay, Drexl….all within a couple of minutes.
Hmmmmm…
October 18th, 2011 at 4:41 pm
Thanks Sull. Cover 2 is a great look if you’re trying to throw deep to the outside. Captain Checkdown just did what he feels safe doing.
October 18th, 2011 at 4:41 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 4:40 pm
Sullivan, Albert, Raccoon, Alex, RaiderTay, Drexl….all within a couple of minutes.
Hmmmmm…
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Keep talking to yourself azzhat, aint buying it.
October 18th, 2011 at 4:42 pm
Worst case scenario:
Palmer gets injured, Raiders lose last 10 games and finish 4-12, no #1 pick.
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Possible.
That’s life.
Watch yourself when you step off the curb.
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Same thing could happen to that #1 and 2 by the way.
October 18th, 2011 at 4:42 pm
lol @ 96.
October 18th, 2011 at 4:42 pm
Drexl is MR. I would know, because I’m Drexel!!
October 18th, 2011 at 4:42 pm
Nothing wrong in being a journeyman QB. They last a long time in the NFL. That is what Campbell is. Year 2 in the same system showed it. Not a putdown but a fact. Boller, Edwards, yes my Gradkowski, journeyman. They make a lot of money being backups.
October 18th, 2011 at 4:42 pm
Huge move! HUGE! A little pricey but if you win, if you’re in the AFC Championship, if you are in the Super Bowl ..its well worth it!
Seymour is right. You can have a ton of picks and have a good team as a result but at the end of the day, did you get it done?
October 18th, 2011 at 4:43 pm
alex7 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 4:42 pm
lol @ 96.
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Of course you do azzhat, you typed it. Don’t be such a dummy.
October 18th, 2011 at 4:43 pm
Kevin Boss to be on “The Petros and Money show” FOX Sports Radio at 5:45pm PDT..
http://www.petrosandmoneyshow.com
Click the “listen live” link…….
October 18th, 2011 at 4:43 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 4:37 pm
What a difference a week makes. The Raiders went from being an organization full of questions to being outright mobilized and ready to compete in this league’s top tier. Just think, 10 days ago Al was still in charge, Jason Campbell was still the long term answer…we were really looking down the barrel of 7-9. We’re looking at 10-6 now, probably divisional playoffs, if not better. It’s all just so weird.
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Best post of the day. I don’t understand why everyone thinks you are a Raider hater. You just seem like a fan who was fed up with Davis, which is understandable. Even more ridiculous is all the fools who think we are the same person. In their minds, only one person could be stupid enough not to see Al Davis’ genius over the last 25 years. I’m surprised they don’t think you are KoolKell also.
October 18th, 2011 at 4:43 pm
Rob Raider…post 57:
Speak it baby. Tell it like it is…excellente. You’re absolutely right.
This is better than an “all-meat (carna asada) burrito with cilantro, onions and red hot chili sauce from the world famous King Taco!
October 18th, 2011 at 4:44 pm
Sick person that needs to cross post to themselves. Seek help.
October 18th, 2011 at 4:44 pm
I say start Palmer vs the lowly Chiefs and ride DMC. It may sound crazy but we need to get this thing going now. Can’t wait. Time is of the essense. THIS IS OUR YEAR! OR 2 OR 3!
October 18th, 2011 at 4:44 pm
whats that?
15 1st round picks!
October 18th, 2011 at 4:45 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 4:43 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 4:37 pm
What a difference a week makes. The Raiders went from being an organization full of questions to being outright mobilized and ready to compete in this league’s top tier. Just think, 10 days ago Al was still in charge, Jason Campbell was still the long term answer…we were really looking down the barrel of 7-9. We’re looking at 10-6 now, probably divisional playoffs, if not better. It’s all just so weird.
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Best post of the day. I don’t understand why everyone thinks you are a Raider hater. You just seem like a fan who was fed up with Davis, which is understandable. Even more ridiculous is all the fools who think we are the same person. In their minds, only one person could be stupid enough not to see Al Davis’ genius over the last 25 years. I’m surprised they don’t think you are KoolKell also.
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The douchery is endless.
October 18th, 2011 at 4:45 pm
Hue Jackson calls this “the greatest trade in football”
Second-greatest trade in football? “I’ll let you know when we make it,” coach Hue Jackson says.
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I love this dude!
October 18th, 2011 at 4:46 pm
Alex7 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 4:40 pm
RaiderLen,
IMO, Giving up a mid 1st round pick for a legit QB is better than giving up a mid 1st round pick for a legit DT.
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I agree in general.
Depends on the roster, team needs, and how close the team is to winning it all.
If the “missing piere is the DT…go for it.
Palmer is a better QB then anyone on the current Roster, and is capable of making this offense elite.
October 18th, 2011 at 4:47 pm
Hue Jack was giddy as a school girl during the presser… almost came off as cocky. Either this dude is shooting from the hip or he really thinks Palmer just added the final piece to the offensive puzzle for this team.
We’ve been cutting and adding fools left and right since Al passed, no doubt a lot of these things wouldn’t have gone down if he was still around.
October 18th, 2011 at 4:48 pm
This is better than an “all-meat (carna asada) burrito with cilantro, onions and red hot chili sauce from the world famous King Taco!
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I’ll take an al pastor with some Jamaica
October 18th, 2011 at 4:48 pm
TerrapinRaider Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 4:44 pm
I say start Palmer vs the lowly Chiefs and ride DMC. It may sound crazy but we need to get this thing going now. Can’t wait. Time is of the essense. THIS IS OUR YEAR! OR 2 OR 3!
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I agree.
October 18th, 2011 at 4:49 pm
Sup La Milicia Negra? How’s it going?
October 18th, 2011 at 4:50 pm
Albert…post 92…
If Palmer gets injured then we go to “The ONE!” and we still come out 8 – 8 or 9 – 7.
October 18th, 2011 at 4:51 pm
Alex, we already know you’re Amy Trask. I know, because I’m Alex 7.
October 18th, 2011 at 4:52 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 4:40 pm
Sullivan, Albert, Raccoon, Alex, RaiderTay, Drexl….all within a couple of minutes.
Hmmmmm…
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You are not me BOY! Stop trying to be! Nobody else this we are o e in the same except you.
Now go home and get yer Shine Box!
October 18th, 2011 at 4:52 pm
Petros Papadakis goes way back to the USC days with Palmer. Has had him on their show many times. Said he would get him on some time this week, even if he has to go to Oaklnd and stick a phone in his ear to make it happen…..
October 18th, 2011 at 4:53 pm
Yep, Many Props and Thanks to Jason Campbell. I will always be grateful to Campbell because he wanted to be the Raiders QB even when McNabb didn’t want to be our QB. Kudos to Jason…you will never be forgotten.
October 18th, 2011 at 4:53 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 4:51 pm
Alex, we already know you’re Amy Trask. I know, because I’m Alex 7.
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lmfao, keep talking to yourself princess.
October 18th, 2011 at 4:54 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 4:43 pm
In their minds, only one person could be stupid enough not to see Al Davis’ genius over the last 25 years.
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It’s a not so clever strategy.
Pretend all of the Davis critics are one person, makes it seem as if criticism of him is taboo. Of course it’s a fail.
October 18th, 2011 at 4:55 pm
Is now the right time to Start Wiz at C?
Who plays LG if we do?
Barksdale?
Campbell?
Satelleellii?
How long can we count on Carslile?
October 18th, 2011 at 4:55 pm
BabySlash Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 2:54 pm
Before you haters write Jason off…let’s make sure Palmer is better. He hasn’t done ANYTHING in a long time…..coming off an injury and is not mobile at all.
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Dude, Palmer is not coming off an injury. And Brady is not mobile and neither is Peyton. Let the partying begin!!!!!!
October 18th, 2011 at 4:55 pm
raiderjhawk Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 4:47 pm
We’ve been cutting and adding fools left and right since Al passed, no doubt a lot of these things wouldn’t have gone down if he was still around.
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You don’t think Al would’ve traded a 7th and future 5th for Curry? Gave the bengals a ransom for Palmer, a former Trojan- heisman- and probowler, after his boy Campbell went down for the year? Come on, coach Al Jackson is doin just what Mr’ Davis would had done.
October 18th, 2011 at 4:55 pm
What’s there to be grateful to Campbell for?
October 18th, 2011 at 4:56 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 4:54 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 4:43 pm
In their minds, only one person could be stupid enough not to see Al Davis’ genius over the last 25 years.
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It’s a not so clever strategy.
Pretend all of the Davis critics are one person, makes it seem as if criticism of him is taboo. Of course it’s a fail.
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Your protests fall on def ears. lmfao, yappin it up with yourself.
October 18th, 2011 at 4:56 pm
Carson Palmer won’t be making ‘Soup type errors; securing the ball, pocket awareness, relative slow process speed (pre-snap, while play is on),etc.
However, Palmer will force the ball like he was pre 2005. And, as I read earlier, it seems his elbow has been more of a concern from jump street.
T.J. Houschmanzedah, who has been working out with Carson gives glowing reviews. He indicates Palmer has been throwing with both velocity & pace on all his throws; he indicates Palmer is almost back to the good old days.
The thing about a quarterback is given the proper circumstances they can play until, oh, say, 38, 39,. . .especially if you indigenously reside in that state. . .
Now, I don’t think Palmer can display the escapibility he possessed b4 his knee injury, but he is hardly a statue.
The running game should benefit exponentially. Far less 8 or 9 men in the box. Time to really go off. Potentially. Kevin Boss/TE position in general will benefit greatly as well. DHB? Potentially. . .
Hue called this the best trade in the history of football. Wow. Presser in progress!
One thing for sure; Carson Palmer will be a striking figure in silver & black, resplendant in every way.
But “The Trade” is only justified if the Raiders become perennial final four participants. On paper who has a better shot than the Raiders.
Man; if Al had passed b4 free agent money was doled out. . .Nnamdi here, the addition of Carson Palmer. . .dream team left coast. . .
Do Carson & Shane have some negotioating to do?
Remember the end of last year when Ochocinco & TO were out but Palmer seemed re-energized? He was spreading the ball out as he read the defense instead of catering to TO & Ochocinco.
Just think about that when the Raiders line up all that young speed/talent on Sundays. . .
October 18th, 2011 at 4:57 pm
MR have a coach em up moment with Sul, and Ally. You guys sound close.
October 18th, 2011 at 4:57 pm
“Chili” Palmer. One of my favorite movie characters.
October 18th, 2011 at 4:57 pm
All I know is that the Raiders are finally looking like a real NFL football team. We’re complete on both sides of the football and special teams, have a solid head coach. We’re using modern defensive schemes now. I can’t believe this. Cloud f’n 9.
October 18th, 2011 at 4:58 pm
If we didn’t get Palmer we were stuck with Kyle Boller rest of the year and a longshot to make playoffs. Everyone knows that.
Palmer will be here for more than a year and is part of the foreseeable future at least.
Who’s to say we can’t trade someone to get back some of the picks we lost?
Nobody knows what the future will bring anyway.
October 18th, 2011 at 4:58 pm
Inonewordraider..post 115:
Nothing wrong with al pastor, as long as it’s from King Taco and you’re washing it down with ice cold beer. Maybe a Modelo!
October 18th, 2011 at 4:59 pm
High price just means my March is going to fairly uneventful. Still, look at the total picture …this is already a very young team save the DTs.
This team can win big depending on how fast Palmer comes up to speed. Hue is going to start this guy immediately.
We are in such a priviledged position right now. Palmer and Pryor. Holy Teledo!
October 18th, 2011 at 4:59 pm
109.TerrapinRaider Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 4:44 pm
I say start Palmer vs the lowly Chiefs and ride DMC. It may sound crazy but we need to get this thing going now. Can’t wait. Time is of the essense. THIS IS OUR YEAR! OR 2 OR 3!
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yeah ride DMac bro, he can really rack up some more stats on his quest to 1000 and beyond..
October 18th, 2011 at 5:01 pm
133.Sullivan44 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 4:57 pm
All I know is that the Raiders are finally looking like a real NFL football team. We’re complete on both sides of the football and special teams, have a solid head coach. We’re using modern defensive schemes now. I can’t believe this. Cloud f’n 9.
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Fun isn’t it.
October 18th, 2011 at 5:01 pm
BALLS TO THE WALL!!!!
October 18th, 2011 at 5:02 pm
King Taco is terrible mayne.
Been there twice.
First time was all pumped up based on everyone telling me how bomb it was. Place was packed, stood in line for 20 minutes.
Didn’t like it at all.
Was high as a kite too, so it shoulda been a no brainer.
Stopped in again, just because I thought I had to be trippin since everyone else loved it.
Ordered the carne asada again and even went with some al pastor tacos to try something else. Al pastor was OK, carne asada burrito was again TERRIBLE.
Won’t go there again. Plenty of bomb local mexican dives that have WAY better food.
October 18th, 2011 at 5:02 pm
http://www.csnbayarea.com/blog/raiders-talk/post/Palmer-Jackson-meet-the-media?blockID=579456&feedID=2801
October 18th, 2011 at 5:04 pm
Wwho’s to say if Pryor doesn’t leave early he doesn’t end up being top 10 pick (1st round) and end up being our first round pick anyway?
Granted, if we have Palmer then we don’t pick a QB with our first pick.
But still…
October 18th, 2011 at 5:04 pm
Does this means we cut Boller and bring in Jordan Palmer also? Is that how this works?
October 18th, 2011 at 5:05 pm
I sure was….
October 18th, 2011 at 5:05 pm
Goldie7 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 4:49 pm
Sup La Milicia Negra? How’s it going?
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awful… My back is cramped!
October 18th, 2011 at 5:06 pm
Are you nuts Sullivan? Jason was our QB when no other QB wanted to play for the Silver and Black and he even beat out Grads for the #1 spot. McNabb and Mash potato face Rothlesberger begged not to come here to be our QB(s) and Vick was advised not to sign with us. Campbell really work hard for our team. Hey Sully…I don’t think you are a geniune Raider fan anyway. lol
October 18th, 2011 at 5:06 pm
Let’s look at this another way.
If Palmer were playing in Cinci right now, and the bungles were 4-2, would they trade him for a 1st and 2nd?
Of course not. He would be UN TRADE ABLE.
We had a unique opportunity to seize on a player who’d “retired” and gave up, according to the draft value chart the 13th pick in the 2012 NFL draft.
Value based upon Raiders picking at 22 in 1st and 2nd rounds in 2010 and 2013.
Get it?
October 18th, 2011 at 5:06 pm
King Taco in LA?
Los Burritos in North Hollywood is pretty good.
October 18th, 2011 at 5:06 pm
I think Pryor would have been a 1st round pick esp after team’s look at Cam Newton came in and did! Pryor was certainly a 1st rounder imho.
We just picked up two more 1st rounders in two weeks! A.Curry & Carson Palmer.
October 18th, 2011 at 5:07 pm
Goldie, I hate to break this to you, but no QB wanted to play here because of Al. That’s obviously not a concern anymore.
October 18th, 2011 at 5:08 pm
good link paradise, thanks
October 18th, 2011 at 5:08 pm
Carson Palmer won’t be making ‘Soup type errors; securing the ball, pocket awareness, relative slow process speed (pre-snap, while play is on),etc.
However, Palmer will force the ball like he was pre 2005. And, as I read earlier, it seems his elbow has been more of a concern from jump street.
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I think Palmer will pretty much manage games the way Campbell is, but pick up open receivers and manage coverage looks a little better. The intangible is will he force balls due to overconfidence with the speed…he’s been out of football for 300 days…very slowly needs to be worked in…but Boller’s act makes me nervous.
October 18th, 2011 at 5:08 pm
There are Soup haters and Soup lovers. All of us should be grateful to Soup for the hard work & dedication he gave to help put this team back on the right track. He has been a total team player who exudes class. It’s too bad that he has lost his starting role to injury. I really feel for him. He really deserves a big thank you from the Raider Nation.
Arte Soup’s QB skill equal to CP’s? Not really, not even close. I will say that he has dramatically improved this last year. Kudos to him. What does his future hold? Can’t really say. It will depend on how well he heals from the recent injury. I’m sure he will want to search for a starter role elsewhere and he may find one. If he doesn’t, we’d be damn lucky to have him here as a BU-QB. Ideally, I’d like to see him with the team when we take the Lombardi trophy back to Oakland. Soup deserves to be with a winner and Oakland is now back with relevance and respectability.
Get well soon Soup. Thank you for your contributions. You will always be welcome here and you’ve earned the right to always be known as a Raider.
Having Carson Palmer, Jason Campbell & Pryor as our QB group would be great. It probably won’t come to pass but that’s what everybody said about a CP trade. so, here’s hoping.
October 18th, 2011 at 5:08 pm
King Taco is fuggin dog food, PERIOD!
October 18th, 2011 at 5:09 pm
Goldie7 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 4:49 pm
Sup La Milicia Negra? How’s it going?
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awful… My back is cramped!
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Uh oh…Do you think good ole Tylenol will help?
October 18th, 2011 at 5:09 pm
We just picked up two more 1st rounders in two weeks! A.Curry & Carson Palmer.
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Exactly!
October 18th, 2011 at 5:09 pm
oh and next year we will get Ochostinko for free, which would make 16
October 18th, 2011 at 5:10 pm
ohh ocho was a 2nd rounder
October 18th, 2011 at 5:11 pm
RaiderLen Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 5:09 pm
We just picked up two more 1st rounders in two weeks! A.Curry & Carson Palmer.
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Exactly!
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yup, I believe we got 15 now!
October 18th, 2011 at 5:11 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 4:55 pm
What’s there to be grateful to Campbell for?
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Uh , how about for sweeping San Diego for the first time in nearly a decade?
Or managing the offense that scored the most points in Raider history?
Beating the Jets ? Staying with the Bills….
c’mon.
October 18th, 2011 at 5:12 pm
We need to get to the playoffs. .. and we need to get a first round bye.. if we win a playoff game with first round bye. .that means were in the afc championship game….. and we give our two firsts. … its so CRUCIAL.. to get the first round bye….
October 18th, 2011 at 5:12 pm
Master Beeecham Says:
Yeah, that’s it – I’m also Charged Down.
It makes perfect sense that I’d create a character who aspires to be me, EXCEPT that he’s less interesting and successful in every way.
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Wow. Talk about a low bar …
October 18th, 2011 at 5:13 pm
153.JB Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 5:08 pm
There are Soup haters and Soup lovers. All of us should be grateful to Soup for the hard work & dedication he gave to help put this team back on the right track. He has been a total team player who exudes class. It’s too bad that he has lost his starting role to injury. I really feel for him. He really deserves a big thank you from the Raider Nation.
Arte Soup’s QB skill equal to CP’s? Not really, not even close. I will say that he has dramatically improved this last year. Kudos to him. What does his future hold? Can’t really say. It will depend on how well he heals from the recent injury. I’m sure he will want to search for a starter role elsewhere and he may find one. If he doesn’t, we’d be damn lucky to have him here as a BU-QB. Ideally, I’d like to see him with the team when we take the Lombardi trophy back to Oakland. Soup deserves to be with a winner and Oakland is now back with relevance and respectability.
Get well soon Soup. Thank you for your contributions. You will always be welcome here and you’ve earned the right to always be known as a Raider.
Having Carson Palmer, Jason Campbell & Pryor as our QB group would be great. It probably won’t come to pass but that’s what everybody said about a CP trade. so, here’s hoping.
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Phenomenal post JB and absolutely…Get well soon Jason and my prayers are sent to you!
October 18th, 2011 at 5:13 pm
Which King Taco do you go to, Hill? The one by the new light rail, in East LA?
October 18th, 2011 at 5:13 pm
Los Burritos in North Hollywood is pretty good.
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We have bomb Mexican spots in So Cal like NY has bomb pizza spots.
You can hit a random lunch truck and get ridiculous carne asada.
October 18th, 2011 at 5:13 pm
44, try Altacor…they have several locations.
Try their super (3 lb.) burrito with a large horchata….mmmmmm the shiznit!!!
October 18th, 2011 at 5:13 pm
Goldie7 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 5:09 pm
Goldie7 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 4:49 pm
Sup La Milicia Negra? How’s it going?
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awful… My back is cramped!
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Uh oh…Do you think good ole Tylenol will help?
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hmm no Tylenol in this parts! but I took some ibuprofen, hope they will help.
October 18th, 2011 at 5:14 pm
OK…
Thank you, Jason Campbell, for sweeping San Diego…even though we didn’t make the playoffs. Now goodbye.
October 18th, 2011 at 5:14 pm
Who needs first round picks, look at last year, the Raids improved just fine without one.
People on the tee vee and in here talking about, “deep into the playoffs”, “conference finals”, and “superbowls”, what an interesting day to be a fan of the Oakland Raids.
October 18th, 2011 at 5:15 pm
J Hill,
Los Burritos is all home made. You can tell by the taste. Everything there is just made really well. Chicken burrito is the bomb. Huevos rancheros are bomb. A little runny, but taste perfect.
October 18th, 2011 at 5:15 pm
I hit the one off the 710. Not sure what city that was in, but I was leaving downtown LA and noticed it off right off the FWY as I approached the 710.
2nd time, hit the one in Ontario. I think that one is kinda new.
October 18th, 2011 at 5:16 pm
Yeah J Hill they have bomb Mexican restaurants in LA that don’t even have a name. Just a building that says Tacos.
October 18th, 2011 at 5:16 pm
why is he called soup again??
October 18th, 2011 at 5:16 pm
J Hill Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 5:13 pm
Los Burritos in North Hollywood is pretty good.
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We have bomb Mexican spots in So Cal like NY has bomb pizza spots.
You can hit a random lunch truck and get ridiculous carne asada.
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Pizza???
Try Folliero’s Pizza and Italiano’s on Figueroa St. in Highland Park…..you’ll thank me later!!
October 18th, 2011 at 5:16 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 5:13 pm
Which King Taco do you go to, Hill? The one by the new light rail, in East LA?
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Some of the over heard convo at the game last Sunday was that you might like a good burrito. lmfao.
October 18th, 2011 at 5:17 pm
167.La Milicia Negra Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 5:13 pm
Goldie7 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 5:09 pm
Goldie7 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 4:49 pm
Sup La Milicia Negra? How’s it going?
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awful… My back is cramped!
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Uh oh…Do you think good ole Tylenol will help?
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hmm no Tylenol in this parts! but I took some ibuprofen, hope they will help.
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Yep Ibuprofen is awesome for pains. Get well soon La Milicia. Peace to ya.
October 18th, 2011 at 5:18 pm
Made Carnitas at home for the 1st time this weekend.
Pork shoulder simmered in lard with homemade pico and corn tortillas.
Off the hook good.
Easy too.
October 18th, 2011 at 5:19 pm
awful… My back is cramped!
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MUSCLE RELAXERS! dont you get free health care?
October 18th, 2011 at 5:19 pm
That one off the 710 is East LA, that’s right by the new light rail. I’ll bet you the location on Soto and Whittier is bomb, I think that’s their original. But that’s, deep, deep in Boyle Heights. A lot of good people there but some people trip.
October 18th, 2011 at 5:20 pm
156.RaiderLen Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 5:09 pm
We just picked up two more 1st rounders in two weeks! A.Curry & Carson Palmer.
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Exactly!
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2012 draft has already produced us Aaron Curry, Carson Palmer, Joe Barksdale, and Terrell Pryor.
I don’t see how anyone can say we got fleeced.
October 18th, 2011 at 5:20 pm
Blackmamba_20 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 5:16 pm
why is he called soup again??
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I believe its because his lastname is Campbell, you know as the soup..
October 18th, 2011 at 5:20 pm
Terrapin – do you currently live in MD, or are you just from Maryland?
October 18th, 2011 at 5:21 pm
Campbell’s Soup…
October 18th, 2011 at 5:21 pm
Grow up Drexel. What’s the purpose of your post? Just saying.
October 18th, 2011 at 5:21 pm
Carl Weathers Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 5:08 pm
King Taco is fuggin dog food, PERIOD!
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You’re trippin man, try the al pastor
October 18th, 2011 at 5:21 pm
J Hill…post 140:
Hey, that’s the way it goes…all individual choices.
However, those local mexican dives…that’s what they are…dives…selling $.50 tacos, watery sauce and the lowest grade of meat, chicken, pork, etc. they can get.
King Taco is the “gourmet” of Mexican Fast foods (Like In-N-Out) and you’re paying, highly, but for the best.
October 18th, 2011 at 5:21 pm
J Hill Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 5:20 pm
156.RaiderLen Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 5:09 pm
We just picked up two more 1st rounders in two weeks! A.Curry & Carson Palmer.
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Exactly!
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2012 draft has already produced us Aaron Curry, Carson Palmer, Joe Barksdale, and Terrell Pryor.
I don’t see how anyone can say we got fleeced.
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Exactly right!
As well as Mr Jones.
October 18th, 2011 at 5:22 pm
Pizza in LA…
Any of the Big Mamas in the valley. Although they’re a little off their game lately. But for years, they were the best. They had a deal for years, x-large 2 topping, 12.99, something like that. Huge ass thin crust pizza with cheese dripping off it.
October 18th, 2011 at 5:22 pm
Charley Casserly said he would of made this trade. That means something doesn’t it?
October 18th, 2011 at 5:23 pm
Goldie7 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 5:21 pm
Grow up Drexel. What’s the purpose of your post? Just saying.
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THAT “ibuprofen” IS FOR PAIN, MUSCLE RELAXERS ARE FOR CRAMPS. is that better? twit.
October 18th, 2011 at 5:23 pm
Made Carnitas at home for the 1st time this weekend.
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LOL!
Trying to make it now.
Shoulder stakes were on sale this weekend and I just wanted to do something different.
Braised it up with some onions, now I’m simmering it up, covered, in vegetable broth for a couple hours on 325.
A true expirement, lol.
October 18th, 2011 at 5:24 pm
try guisados on st. louis and caesar chavez for the best tamales and ridiculous tacos that you’ve probably never tried before ie tinga taco cochinita pibil taco also for a fancier joint on 1st and boyle serenata de garibaldi both in east los
October 18th, 2011 at 5:24 pm
J Hill Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 5:20 pm
156.RaiderLen Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 5:09 pm
We just picked up two more 1st rounders in two weeks! A.Curry & Carson Palmer.
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Exactly!
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2012 draft has already produced us Aaron Curry, Carson Palmer, Joe Barksdale, and Terrell Pryor.
I don’t see how anyone can say we got fleeced.
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as long as everyone of those 4 deliver, we actually won, but if they dont we will be a laughing stock..
I believe we will win!
October 18th, 2011 at 5:24 pm
Blackmamba_20 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 5:16 pm
why is he called soup again??
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Really? Does Campbell’s soup ring a bell?
October 18th, 2011 at 5:24 pm
Realtruraider Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 5:22 pm
Charley Casserly said he would of made this trade. That means something doesn’t it?
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I like and respect Mr Casserly.
Redskins took a dive after he left, and he made the Mario Williams call when all others were shouting Bush.
October 18th, 2011 at 5:25 pm
Regarding our 2012 draft:
Oakland is expecting to get compensatory picks after losing Nnamdi Asomugha(notes), Zach Miller, Robert Gallery(notes), Thomas Howard(notes) and Bruce Gradkowski(notes) in free agency.
October 18th, 2011 at 5:26 pm
181.La Milicia Negra Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 5:20 pm
Blackmamba_20 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 5:16 pm
why is he called soup again??
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I believe its because his lastname is Campbell, you know as the soup..
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Live in Sydney brother, never heard of the soup, but thats good i like it !!
October 18th, 2011 at 5:26 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 4:39 pm
RaiderLen Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 4:38 pm
So, worst case outcome………
Anyone have a problem giving up the 15th pick in 2012 draft ?
And the 47th pick in 2013?
This deal is a no brainer.
Many are hung up on 1st and or 2nd round picks without evaluating the actual value of the picks.
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Worst case scenario:
Palmer gets injured, Raiders lose last 10 games and finish 4-12, no #1 pick.
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That kind of comment indicates “the refs are always out to get us” mentality.
Offensive line is a bit better, we have a running game, please take the upside.
October 18th, 2011 at 5:26 pm
Al would have done the same deal except for a second he would have given them Jacoby Ford.
October 18th, 2011 at 5:27 pm
King taco in long beach is by far the worst….
October 18th, 2011 at 5:27 pm
pizza in LA try pizzamania in whittier, ppl come from all around to try it, in SD luigi’s saw that schit on diners drive in and dives even though alotta that schit ends up sucking this place best pizza i’ve had anywhere, course I never been to NY or Chi town
October 18th, 2011 at 5:27 pm
Yeah, he said if he was a Raider fan he would be exited. Doesn’t think we over paid with the draft picks
October 18th, 2011 at 5:27 pm
YOU are the biggest twit in the world and a turkey! Always starting confusion and why? I have no idea. We Raider fans are celebrating a phenomenal signing today and you want to start confusion? Grow up will ya?
October 18th, 2011 at 5:28 pm
Drexel is a twit and a turkey!
October 18th, 2011 at 5:29 pm
Whats a Drexl? Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 5:19 pm
awful… My back is cramped!
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MUSCLE RELAXERS! dont you get free health care?
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Free health care doesnt mean you dont get hurt, it means you dont have to pay for getting well..
October 18th, 2011 at 5:29 pm
Blackmamba_20 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 5:26 pm
181.La Milicia Negra Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 5:20 pm
Blackmamba_20 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 5:16 pm
why is he called soup again??
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I believe its because his lastname is Campbell, you know as the soup..
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Live in Sydney brother, never heard of the soup, but thats good i like it !!
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Gotcha. Kind of like Fosters over here. Fosters Freeze – a soft ice cream franchise. One doesn’t automatically connect Fosters with Beer over here.
October 18th, 2011 at 5:29 pm
182.SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 5:20 pm
Terrapin – do you currently live in MD, or are you just from Maryland?
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I went to school there. I don’t currently live there though.
October 18th, 2011 at 5:30 pm
RaiderTW Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 5:26 pm
Al would have done the same deal except for a second he would have given them Jacoby Ford.
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Hey man!
October 18th, 2011 at 5:30 pm
Casserly likes a LOT of what we have done recently… he makin’ a push for our GM position?
October 18th, 2011 at 5:30 pm
In-N-Out is CLEARLY head and shoulders above all the So Cal hamburger joints.
I don’t see the comparison between them and King Taco. I think Tommy Burger may be a better comparison.
October 18th, 2011 at 5:31 pm
J Hill Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 5:23 pm
Made Carnitas at home for the 1st time this weekend.
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LOL!
Trying to make it now.
Shoulder stakes were on sale this weekend and I just wanted to do something different.
Braised it up with some onions, now I’m simmering it up, covered, in vegetable broth for a couple hours on 325.
A true expirement, lol.
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Yesss!
I put mine in a big pot of lard at about 200 for 2 hrs, pulled it out fork tender and seasoned it with lawrys seasoned salt.
The pico was garden fresh, but the corn tortilla put it over the top.
It was awesome.
Please report back on how it turns out.
I wanna give it a shot.
October 18th, 2011 at 5:32 pm
who’s goin to IR or the waiver wire for Palmer & Chinedum Ndukwe?? Campbell most likely and…
October 18th, 2011 at 5:32 pm
Blackmamba_20 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 5:26 pm
181.La Milicia Negra Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 5:20 pm
Blackmamba_20 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 5:16 pm
why is he called soup again??
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I believe its because his lastname is Campbell, you know as the soup..
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Live in Sydney brother, never heard of the soup, but thats good i like it !!
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do you know about Andy Warhol? google him and you likely will get a picture of either him or a can of soup! =)
October 18th, 2011 at 5:32 pm
Hue on 1140
October 18th, 2011 at 5:32 pm
Gannon 2.0 with a stronger arm! Love this.Yes we gave up a lot but then again we have a horrible track record in the early draft rounds anyway!
October 18th, 2011 at 5:32 pm
That trade will make us by far the dominant team in the AFC West and one of the most dominant in the NFL (in time).
I say just get Palmer in the lineup with a limited playbook. Ride DMC to a win over KC and do playaction with Palmer. Keep it simple. The sooner Palmer gets assimilated the deeper we go in the playoffs.
October 18th, 2011 at 5:33 pm
Carl Weathers Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 5:32 pm
who’s goin to IR or the waiver wire for Palmer & Chinedum Ndukwe?? Campbell most likely and…
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Boyd was cut for Ndukwe
October 18th, 2011 at 5:34 pm
206.JB Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 5:29 pm
Blackmamba_20 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 5:26 pm
181.La Milicia Negra Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 5:20 pm
Blackmamba_20 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 5:16 pm
why is he called soup again??
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I believe its because his lastname is Campbell, you know as the soup..
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Live in Sydney brother, never heard of the soup, but thats good i like it !!
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Gotcha. Kind of like Fosters over here. Fosters Freeze – a soft ice cream franchise. One doesn’t automatically connect Fosters with Beer over here.
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HAHA Yeah most definalty connect fosters with the Grog, these folk love the stuff here !!
October 18th, 2011 at 5:34 pm
thanks bcz24, hadn’t heard anything.
October 18th, 2011 at 5:35 pm
Goldie7 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 5:27 pm
YOU are the biggest twit in the world and a turkey! Always starting confusion and why? I have no idea. We Raider fans are celebrating a phenomenal signing today and you want to start confusion? Grow up will ya?
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I was being very helpful to your good friend LMF.
If in fact he is cramped and lying on the floor, in a bed hoping the muscle will un-cramp because your dumb azz said to eat some ibuprofen rather than some Diazepam (Valium) he is making a mistake.
He lives in a euro country right? My limited knowledge of the world leads me to think that most euro’s have free health care. This would make picking up a few tabs of Diazepam rather simple. Thus my inquiry as to the state of his healthcare.
twit
October 18th, 2011 at 5:35 pm
Drexel, my bad…I thought you were being sarcastic. Forgive me Man. You’re still a twit though. lol Just messing.
October 18th, 2011 at 5:36 pm
We have the best QB in the AFC west
October 18th, 2011 at 5:36 pm
Will do, Len.
Wifey just put a twist on the menu though. She said she’s making some rice so we can just put it over that with the juices.
I have avacados, tomatoes, butter leaf lettuce, and tortillas on deck though. I guess that’s going to turn into a salad, lol.
October 18th, 2011 at 5:36 pm
I apolgized…Fogive me. Twit
October 18th, 2011 at 5:36 pm
Later Fellas
Go Raiders!
October 18th, 2011 at 5:36 pm
213.La Milicia Negra Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 5:32 pm
Blackmamba_20 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 5:26 pm
181.La Milicia Negra Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 5:20 pm
Blackmamba_20 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 5:16 pm
why is he called soup again??
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I believe its because his lastname is Campbell, you know as the soup..
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Live in Sydney brother, never heard of the soup, but thats good i like it !!
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do you know about Andy Warhol? google him and you likely will get a picture of either him or a can of soup! =)
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No schit literaly just laughed out loud, googled it and low and behold, campbells condensed tomato soup !! briliant !!!
October 18th, 2011 at 5:37 pm
Oops Forgive me Drexel.
October 18th, 2011 at 5:37 pm
I will bet before it’s all said and done we will have the best Qb in the AFC period!!!!!
October 18th, 2011 at 5:37 pm
Twit. lol
October 18th, 2011 at 5:38 pm
You got it bro
October 18th, 2011 at 5:38 pm
J Hill Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 5:36 pm
Will do, Len.
Wifey just put a twist on the menu though. She said she’s making some rice so we can just put it over that with the juices.
I have avacados, tomatoes, butter leaf lettuce, and tortillas on deck though. I guess that’s going to turn into a salad, lol.
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Thanks JHill,
Enjoy, and always follow the wifes lead.
October 18th, 2011 at 5:38 pm
So, how are we going to pay the man? How much is his salary? How many years are left on his contract? Who has to go to accommodate his salary?
October 18th, 2011 at 5:39 pm
> We have the best QB in the AFC west
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And so soon will my fantasy team
October 18th, 2011 at 5:39 pm
Later RaiderLen.
October 18th, 2011 at 5:39 pm
How about us replacing non productive players like Groves, Boyd, and Nikki Miller?
Guys that were clearly effing up on the field each week got replaced.
Very encouraging, imo.
October 18th, 2011 at 5:39 pm
I have avacados, tomatoes, butter leaf lettuce, and tortillas on deck though. I guess that’s going to turn into a salad, lol.
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Simmer the rice in the cooking liquid and put it all in the tortilla… Sounds slammin!
October 18th, 2011 at 5:39 pm
3 mil….vegas
October 18th, 2011 at 5:40 pm
we still have around 3 mil left
October 18th, 2011 at 5:41 pm
Just Win Baby Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 5:38 pm
So, how are we going to pay the man? How much is his salary? How many years are left on his contract? Who has to go to accommodate his salary?
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It’s Mark’s money, not yours. Don’t worry about it.
(How’s it feel?)
October 18th, 2011 at 5:41 pm
Damn JFord AFC special teams player of the week! Good job young man, although he should have been a co-mvp with big Lech-daddy
October 18th, 2011 at 5:42 pm
I still can’t believe we got Curry for a 7th rd and a 5th rd pick.
DVD is a damn good rookie cover corner.
MM34 is playing well enough at S that we were able to cut Boyd.
Huff and Routt are playing really well.
Our defense and running game are going to lead the way!!!!!
October 18th, 2011 at 5:42 pm
J Hill Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 5:39 pm
How about us replacing non productive players like Groves, Boyd, and Nikki Miller?
Guys that were clearly effing up on the field each week got replaced.
Very encouraging, imo
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Groves seems to be a good Special teams player, quick and strong.. not the worst back up in the world, happy with Curry tho
October 18th, 2011 at 5:43 pm
I think Pryor would have been a 1st round pick esp after team’s look at Cam Newton came in and did! Pryor was certainly a 1st rounder imho.
We just picked up two more 1st rounders in two weeks! A.Curry & Carson Palmer
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This is the only way to look at the moves we’ve made any other way is very short sighted anyone saying Pryor would not be a 1st rndr really don’t know what they’re talking.
October 18th, 2011 at 5:43 pm
Oakland Raiders 2012 draft picks:
1st round: Traded to Bengals for Carson Palmer
2nd round: Traded to Patriots for 2011 3rd- and 4th-rd picks
3rd round: Exercised in 2011 supplemental draft (Terrelle Pryor)
4th round: Traded to Redskins for Jason Campbell
5th round: Still own pick
6th round: Still own pick
7th round: Traded to Seahawks for Aaron Curry
Of course, the Raiders should get some relief. They are expected to be assigned two or three comp picks next spring. They will receive picks for the free-agent losses of players such as Nnamdi Asomugha, Zach Miller and Robert Gallery. The comp-pick process is a complicated formula based on play time and performance.
Still, it wouldn’t be a shock if the Raiders get the top comp pick of the 2012 draft. That would be No. 97, at the end of the third round.
October 18th, 2011 at 5:44 pm
Terrapin – That’s cool man…my brother and his family live in Maryland. He actually teaches and coaches high school track and field at GlenElg near Ellicott City. Was good friend’s with DHB’s track coach (who recently died) at McDonough High. My brother always tells me how he watched DHB in high school and how he knew he’d be a stud the more he learned about the game. Apparently he didn’t hardly play any peewee-little league, and was really focused on track. Just learned football in high school and is now coming around like someone who got on football later in life would. Am really proud to see the progress he’s made. Hope Palmer can continue to help this kid grow.
Anyhow, I’m outta here ya’ll, bout to clock outta the gig…
Rack ‘em
October 18th, 2011 at 5:45 pm
Blackmamba_20 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 5:36 pm
213.La Milicia Negra Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 5:32 pm
Blackmamba_20 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 5:26 pm
181.La Milicia Negra Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 5:20 pm
Blackmamba_20 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 5:16 pm
why is he called soup again??
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I believe its because his lastname is Campbell, you know as the soup..
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Live in Sydney brother, never heard of the soup, but thats good i like it !!
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do you know about Andy Warhol? google him and you likely will get a picture of either him or a can of soup! =)
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No schit literaly just laughed out loud, googled it and low and behold, campbells condensed tomato soup !! briliant !!!
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LOL, always great to make people laugh!
October 18th, 2011 at 5:45 pm
240.bcz24 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 5:41 pm
Damn JFord AFC special teams player of the week! Good job young man, although he should have been a co-mvp with big Lech-daddy
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Love J Ford, had the record 60 time in e NCAA, KIDS a bruner..has that nack for the holes on KR, had that 37 return as well.
October 18th, 2011 at 5:45 pm
I agree that Groves upgrades our STs unit.
October 18th, 2011 at 5:45 pm
What is Carson Palmer’s nickname?
October 18th, 2011 at 5:46 pm
Sullivan, How’s it feel? – What the hell are you talking about?
October 18th, 2011 at 5:46 pm
J Hill Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 5:20 pm
2012 draft has already produced us Aaron Curry, Carson Palmer, Joe Barksdale, and Terrell Pryor.
I don’t see how anyone can say we got fleeced.
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Spot on with this statement Mr Hill.
October 18th, 2011 at 5:47 pm
Post 249 – Lets call him Wall Street ’cause we bailed him out getting him off the couch! He might not have ever played football again if it wasn’t for us. He owes us and I’m sure he’ll play his a$$ off for us!
October 18th, 2011 at 5:48 pm
We just put the cherry on the top. We are definitely a contender now. We can beat anybody with this team. Campbell is good; but Palmer is better and can win you games if need be. With a run game he could be deadly.
We got Palmer & Pryor, that’s like Farve & Rodgers. HOLY TOLEDO!!!
Boyz, we are in helluva good shape!
October 18th, 2011 at 5:49 pm
J Hill Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 5:20 pm
2012 draft has already produced us Aaron Curry, Carson Palmer, Joe Barksdale, and Terrell Pryor.
I don’t see how anyone can say we got fleeced.
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Have you really seen any of those people play yet, video boy?
October 18th, 2011 at 5:50 pm
Just Win Baby Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 5:46 pm
Sullivan, How’s it feel? – What the hell are you talking about?
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lmfao, you musta told him something similar two years age, and he just got his return zinger in.
October 18th, 2011 at 5:50 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 5:45 pm
What is Carson Palmer’s nickname
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I heard they called him Owen wilson after his nose got broke
October 18th, 2011 at 5:51 pm
We only have 1 issue in my book: Our DTs aging. Thats it! We are solid across the board. Enough to win plenty games. This team is built solid by uncle D!
October 18th, 2011 at 5:52 pm
Well at least I don’t have to stay home next draft day, hopefully going deeper into the playoffs than we already would have will make up for it.
October 18th, 2011 at 5:52 pm
Two of the top 10 plays of the week on the NFL channel were Raiders…
Teams on a roll…..what a week…
October 18th, 2011 at 5:52 pm
So did Campbell get IR’ed or what?
October 18th, 2011 at 5:52 pm
J Hill Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 5:39 pm
How about us replacing non productive players like Groves, Boyd, and Nikki Miller?
Guys that were clearly effing up on the field each week got replaced.
Very encouraging, imo.
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Groves is one of our best ST players. Furthermoe Hue says he is one of the most important players in the lockerroom… Groves aint going nowhere!
October 18th, 2011 at 5:53 pm
It all depends on how quick Palmer can get up to speed. With Hue & Saunders we can be a huge threat in the playoffs.
October 18th, 2011 at 5:53 pm
Long time listener, first time caller. Just a do drop in to shout hi to ya’ll. Nuts gonna be rocckin with this Palmer deal. Hope the dude has a rack of balls and is ready to cut it loose.
Gonna miss JC, tho Palmer will upgrade us. JC a decent fella, helped us in the hump.
October 18th, 2011 at 5:54 pm
RANKINGS HAVE RAIDERS AT 9
October 18th, 2011 at 5:55 pm
254.KoolKell Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 5:49 pm
J Hill Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 5:20 pm
2012 draft has already produced us Aaron Curry, Carson Palmer, Joe Barksdale, and Terrell Pryor.
I don’t see how anyone can say we got fleeced.
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Have you really seen any of those people play yet, video boy?
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Is that you way of saying you would have preferred to go with Boller at QB, Groves at WLB, Khalif Barnes at RT, and no young QB to groom?
October 18th, 2011 at 5:55 pm
If it was my decision, I would start Boller on Sunday.
If we lose, we have plenty of time to recover.
I’d want to be damn sure that Palmer had the best of everything before his first start.
October 18th, 2011 at 5:56 pm
Yeah groves seems to be a vocal upsprited type guy. and has made some good tackles on ST, He put in a rocket last year , cant rememebr who vs..
October 18th, 2011 at 5:56 pm
A burrito with guacamole and we’ll be fine on the D. Lay some serious ass gas out there and KC be spinnin in their heads. Load up on the beans defense, and cut that ass noise loose baby!
October 18th, 2011 at 5:58 pm
J Hill Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 5:55 pm
254.KoolKell Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 5:49 pm
J Hill Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 5:20 pm
2012 draft has already produced us Aaron Curry, Carson Palmer, Joe Barksdale, and Terrell Pryor.
I don’t see how anyone can say we got fleeced.
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Have you really seen any of those people play yet, video boy?
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I said exactly what I meant to say.
October 18th, 2011 at 5:59 pm
After all the drafts, the(busts),FA leaving, huge contracts, losing seasons, blow outs in games, too now a shot at 6 – 2 with some of the most explosvie dynamic players on both sides of the ball, veterens where we need them, future secure with youth.. id say we have a reason to be VERY optimistc, Wheres a bottle im getting juiced !!
October 18th, 2011 at 5:59 pm
T.O and Ocho Cinco called him Alfred (Batman’s butler) because they were Batman and Robin.
October 18th, 2011 at 6:00 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 5:45 pm
What is Carson Palmer’s nickname?
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‘Mealworm’, thats what we (here in DK) called him when he was a bungels player!
October 18th, 2011 at 6:00 pm
Groves aint going nowhere!
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Well he’s already gone to the bench in favor of Curry at WLB.
He in turn has replaced Davis II on STs and I’ve already says he upgrades that unit.
October 18th, 2011 at 6:00 pm
Carl Weathers Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 5:32 pm
who’s goin to IR or the waiver wire for Palmer & Chinedum Ndukwe?? Campbell most likely and…
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Boyd – S already released. I expect JCampbell to be put on IR. We also will need to clear a spot for Lito Sheppard – CB. Maybe CJ37 on IR or possibly Chimdi Chekwa or ShoNMasty on IR.
HuJack is not missing a beat. I don’t remember an activity level this high during the season EVER!
October 18th, 2011 at 6:01 pm
Casserly would make a good GM
October 18th, 2011 at 6:01 pm
Zymurge Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 5:12 pm
Master Beeecham Says:
Yeah, that’s it – I’m also Charged Down.
It makes perfect sense that I’d create a character who aspires to be me, EXCEPT that he’s less interesting and successful in every way.
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Wow. Talk about a low bar …
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LOL! no kidding.
October 18th, 2011 at 6:01 pm
I think I agree with the idea of Boller starting vs the Queefs, and run, run, run. This gives Carson this week and the bye to get up to speed. I also would like to thank Jason Campbell for his play and professionalism, which had a very big part in bringing the team back to a position of respect. We should all wish him a quick recovery and all the best.
CODE BLACK remains in effect
October 18th, 2011 at 6:01 pm
Like Kurt Warner said, it’s a good trade, IF, Palmer can play like he used to.
And there’s not one of you video boys with that answer., yet!
October 18th, 2011 at 6:02 pm
WE are now the best team on the west coast
October 18th, 2011 at 6:02 pm
Yo Drexl!
where did you go to medical school!
October 18th, 2011 at 6:02 pm
First time poster. Just a shout to everybody. Did Hue have to mortgage the farm or what. But aint that the way farmin goes. HueJack still the man.
So let me get this right:
HueJack = GM and Head Dog
Amy = President and CEO
Mark = Owner and Director of Football Operations
Sweet ass darlin, we ready to fly.
October 18th, 2011 at 6:02 pm
nor you
October 18th, 2011 at 6:03 pm
Do ya’ll think we will see alot more fade routes now when we are in the RedZone.
I Don’t know if we never use the fade because of Campbell are the WRs.
October 18th, 2011 at 6:03 pm
JB Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 6:00 pm
Carl Weathers Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 5:32 pm
who’s goin to IR or the waiver wire for Palmer & Chinedum Ndukwe?? Campbell most likely and…
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Boyd – S already released. I expect JCampbell to be put on IR. We also will need to clear a spot for Lito Sheppard – CB. Maybe CJ37 on IR or possibly Chimdi Chekwa or ShoNMasty on IR.
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Did we pick up Shephard or not? Haven’t seen this anywhere but here…
October 18th, 2011 at 6:03 pm
Twocents Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 5:55 pm
If it was my decision, I would start Boller on Sunday.
If we lose, we have plenty of time to recover.
I’d want to be damn sure that Palmer had the best of everything before his first start.
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f*ck that! i’d rather have palmer drawing plays in the dirt than boller.
October 18th, 2011 at 6:04 pm
Jason i was ready to ride and die with you bro as a fan that is!!! Thanks for the memories
October 18th, 2011 at 6:04 pm
Terrapin DHB just got a lot better and so did every rec’r we have because the deep ball will be on the money. As much as I supported JC those throws OOB’s drove me NUTS!!!
When you see Ford get behind the defense he will have a chance to get it where he needs it. I think JC is a very good QB but what kept him from being elite was his inability to make bigtime plays downfield and I think he can get better at it but this guy we have now is GREAT AT IT.
October 18th, 2011 at 6:05 pm
@ 283, Campbell id think, he seemed restricted in his RZ playmaking, need those over the shoulders right in the corner, Chaz and DHB use there size an snag em
October 18th, 2011 at 6:05 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 6:01 pm
Like Kurt Warner said, it’s a good trade, IF, Palmer can play like he used to.
And there’s not one of you video boys with that answer., yet!
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are you drinking, you make zero sence
October 18th, 2011 at 6:06 pm
When JC would overthrow underthrow the deep ball is why you get CP it’s frustrating to have rec’s who can blow by the defense and have a QB not get it there. Those flea flicker misses keep the other team in the game. When it should be a blowout.
October 18th, 2011 at 6:08 pm
Cant wait to see who’s out there sunday
October 18th, 2011 at 6:08 pm
Whats A Drexl? Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 6:05 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 6:01 pm
Like Kurt Warner said, it’s a good trade, IF, Palmer can play like he used to.
And there’s not one of you video boys with that answer., yet!
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are you drinking, you make zero sence
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Drexl troll, not surprised you don’t understand.
October 18th, 2011 at 6:08 pm
priesttj Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 6:06 pm
When JC would overthrow underthrow the deep ball is why you get CP it’s frustrating to have rec’s who can blow by the defense and have a QB not get it there. Those flea flicker misses keep the other team in the game. When it should be a blowout.
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JC RIP, now the Palmer era begins. If he fails someone else will be next in line.
October 18th, 2011 at 6:08 pm
priesttj Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 6:06 pm
When JC would overthrow underthrow the deep ball is why you get CP it’s frustrating to have rec’s who can blow by the defense and have a QB not get it there. Those flea flicker misses keep the other team in the game. When it should be a blowout.
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Yeaaap!!!!!
October 18th, 2011 at 6:09 pm
Lets not have over the top expectations for Palmer. Just settle for now to know that he is better than Camp.
The deep ball we come and when it does we’ll be blowin’ teams out the park cause Palmer aint scared to launch it!
October 18th, 2011 at 6:10 pm
No one will have to ask this guy to cut it loose….because it’ll be cut loose and then some.
October 18th, 2011 at 6:10 pm
DHB and Ford and Moore going deep.. Nah its going to be a bueatiful thing man,
October 18th, 2011 at 6:11 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 6:08 pm
Whats A Drexl? Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 6:05 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 6:01 pm
Like Kurt Warner said, it’s a good trade, IF, Palmer can play like he used to.
And there’s not one of you video boys with that answer., yet!
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are you drinking, you make zero sence
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Drexl troll, not surprised you don’t understand.
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What do you want answered? Yes the Raids need to see what they have, nothing is a sure bet in the NFL.
Logic says a few things though.
One of those things is statistically Palmer is an improvement. The second Hue is pretty excited about this, he about pee’d himself during the presser.
There that’s two positives that I didn’t need to watch to much tape to deduce.
October 18th, 2011 at 6:12 pm
I hear they wanted Palmer to have Tommy John surgery, 2 years back.
October 18th, 2011 at 6:12 pm
Carson Palmer has not lost any weight….231 lbs….He wears protective gear while playing his position like most NFL quarterback…..
October 18th, 2011 at 6:13 pm
Drexl, were do get your medicine info, something you studied for long time?
October 18th, 2011 at 6:14 pm
I hear they wanted Palmer to have Tommy John surgery, 2 years back.
I also hear his arm ain’t what it used to be.
October 18th, 2011 at 6:14 pm
Lets not have over the top expectations for Palmer.
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I don’t at all.
I think this team will and should be lead by the running game and defense.
The opportunities to go deep are presented by our running game being so good. That should not change. I hope Hue sticks with getting our RBs a combined 25 plus carries per game.
Let’s not forget DMac is the straw that stirs this drink!
October 18th, 2011 at 6:16 pm
Let’s not forget DMac is the straw that stirs this drink!
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And what if he goes down, video boy?
October 18th, 2011 at 6:16 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 6:12 pm
I hear they wanted Palmer to have Tommy John surgery, 2 years back.
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True, but I hear he has great arm strength and has fully recovered, kinda supporting his decision to NOT have the dreaded Tommy Johns surgery.
Any other negatives about Palmer you are worried about?
I thought you were on board with Hues decision making, why such the long face.
October 18th, 2011 at 6:16 pm
289.Whats a Drexl? Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 6:05 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 6:01 pm
Like Kurt Warner said, it’s a good trade, IF, Palmer can play like he used to.
And there’s not one of you video boys with that answer., yet!
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are you drinking, you make zero sence
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Nobody knows what ANYBODY will do in the future.
Even Palmer’s “bad year” last year is better than Campbell THIS year.
It’s an upgrade. Let Mark Amy and Hue worry about the cost of this.
Like Hue said, we’ll worry about 2012 when it comes and we’ll be fine.
October 18th, 2011 at 6:17 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 6:16 pm
Let’s not forget DMac is the straw that stirs this drink!
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And what if he goes down, video boy?
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KK come back when you sober up. You sound furious about this trade.
October 18th, 2011 at 6:17 pm
You guys get so gawdamned carried away! Out.
October 18th, 2011 at 6:18 pm
autopalm77 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 6:12 pm
Carson Palmer has not lost any weight….231 lbs….He wears protective gear while playing his position like most NFL quarterback…..
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just go look at the pictures, his face totally changed, he has at least lost 10-15 lbs since last time he saw a uniform…
October 18th, 2011 at 6:19 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 6:17 pm
You guys get so gawdamned carried away! Out.
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Somebody is pist,
October 18th, 2011 at 6:20 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 6:14 pm
I hear they wanted Palmer to have Tommy John surgery, 2 years back.
I also hear his arm ain’t what it used to be.
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KK why so negative? Palmer with his eyes closed is better than Campbell..
October 18th, 2011 at 6:20 pm
La Milicia Negra Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 6:18 pm
autopalm77 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 6:12 pm
Carson Palmer has not lost any weight….231 lbs….He wears protective gear while playing his position like most NFL quarterback…..
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just go look at the pictures, his face totally changed, he has at least lost 10-15 lbs since last time he saw a uniform…
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LOL
October 18th, 2011 at 6:20 pm
f*ck that! i’d rather have palmer drawing plays in the dirt than boller.
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Me too!
October 18th, 2011 at 6:20 pm
The thing that keeps popping in my head is when Hue jackson looked at Jason Campbell with that incredulous look like what the hell was that in Houston and I felt embarrassed for JC. It told me a lot about what Hue really thinks about JC I know he likes like a brother but Hue wants a dynamic talent who WOWS him not a guy he has to prod. He wanted a talent at QB that makes him sit up and take notice and be thrilled by the ability to make plays.
The look on his face at the presser was like he just married Halle Berry and he knows CP better than anyone he knows what to do with him and how go get him ready Hue is extremely smart a lot smarted than I ever thought he was.
October 18th, 2011 at 6:22 pm
Did we pick up Shephard or not? Haven’t seen this anywhere but here…
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It was reported by a few people on Twitter that he was in for a workout. No word if he was signed or not.
October 18th, 2011 at 6:23 pm
LMN, he shaved…..maybe thats why he looks skinny!
Oh yeah…..he’s not wearing pads either!
October 18th, 2011 at 6:23 pm
I asked you a question a few times, let me try again…
do you google your knowledge or have you studied medicine?
October 18th, 2011 at 6:24 pm
Blackmamba_20 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 5:43 pm
Oakland Raiders 2012 draft picks:
1st round: Traded to Bengals for Carson Palmer
2nd round: Traded to Patriots for 2011 3rd- and 4th-rd picks
3rd round: Exercised in 2011 supplemental draft (Terrelle Pryor)
4th round: Traded to Redskins for Jason Campbell
5th round: Still own pick
6th round: Still own pick
7th round: Traded to Seahawks for Aaron Curry
Of course, the Raiders should get some relief. They are expected to be assigned two or three comp picks next spring. They will receive picks for the free-agent losses of players such as Nnamdi Asomugha, Zach Miller and Robert Gallery. The comp-pick process is a complicated formula based on play time and performance.
Still, it wouldn’t be a shock if the Raiders get the top comp pick of the 2012 draft. That would be No. 97, at the end of the third round.
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BTW, that 2nd rounder to the Patriots was parlayed into Barksdale and Taiwan. Each has shown enough to say that at least one will pan out at 2nd round pick value, if not both. And we get them a year early, which is value add.
October 18th, 2011 at 6:24 pm
281.Iron Wood Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 6:02 pm
First time poster. Just a shout to everybody. Did Hue have to mortgage the farm or what. But aint that the way farmin goes. HueJack still the man.
So let me get this right:
HueJack = GM and Head Dog
Amy = President and CEO
Mark = Owner and Director of Football Operations
Sweet ass darlin, we ready to fly.
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Welcome aboard Iron Wood…this is one crazy board….right? lol
October 18th, 2011 at 6:25 pm
Soup has never thrown a fade or backshoulder
Look guys, Palmer could win games with his arm! We never had that option with Soup.
And Soup has been off all season, he has always just been managing to gather 100-200 yards. Many of which are screens or dump offs
People are going to lose to us in so many ways now, it makes me teary eyed thinking about it. Palmer brings us another level higher, and even if he just manages for now we upgraded a key position.
October 18th, 2011 at 6:25 pm
1st & 10 on the Raider 20. The opponents look across the LOS and see Palmer under center, DHB, Ford, D-Wow & Schillins all lined up in a 4 wide out and DMac in the backfield. What do they do?
A. call time out
B. Drop all your backs to the 20 yard line
C. Start back-peddling as quickly as possible
This is what opposing defenses will have to deal with. Alternately, they will also see Boss, Bush & Reece all viable weapons able to go all the way. This offense has the potential of being the scariest offense in the NFL. This offense will easily be equal to or better than any other one out there. They said Philly was the dream team. Who’d guess that it really was Oakland who had the dream team that just became a reality.
October 18th, 2011 at 6:25 pm
He passed his physical without exception…He can make any throw that an NFL quarterback needs to make with velocity and pinpoint accuracy….The only problem is Mr. Davis won’t be there for his introduction to the Hall of Fame….!!!!
October 18th, 2011 at 6:26 pm
La Milicia Negra Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 6:13 pm
Drexl, were do get your medicine info, something you studied for long time?
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Sorry LMN i missed this.
I only have the experience of a family member with sever back cramps. I had to pick up the prescription.
October 18th, 2011 at 6:26 pm
This price was kinda high but I’m still WOW’ing over the fact that we got Palmer. Holy sht! This is crazy man. I think the whole NFL took notice.
All that Charger asslickin’ …no more …its turning silent. hahaha.
October 18th, 2011 at 6:26 pm
317.La Milicia Negra Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 6:23 pm
I asked you a question a few times, let me try again…
do you google your knowledge or have you studied medicine?
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So the Twit was being sarcastic? lol
October 18th, 2011 at 6:26 pm
R8eray Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 6:23 pm
LMN, he shaved…..maybe thats why he looks skinny!
Oh yeah…..he’s not wearing pads either!
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Na… It looked like the lump of fat under his chin was smaller, and his face wasn’t as full.
Could be the “trickeration” of the camera, but he appeared thinner.
October 18th, 2011 at 6:26 pm
DearDhb,Ford,Schilens,Moore
…..you will now be introduced to the the streak/GO route next practice.You also no longer have to obtain your 100 yards on comebacks & slants
Welcome to the vertical passing game
October 18th, 2011 at 6:28 pm
Priesttj,
How dare you compare anything to marrying Halle Berry
So dissapointed
October 18th, 2011 at 6:28 pm
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October 18th, 2011 at 6:27 pm
r8eray Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 6:23 pm
LMN, he shaved…..maybe thats why he looks skinny!
Oh yeah…..he’s not wearing pads either!
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it would look pretty stupid with pads in the face!
he clearly lost some pounds!
i.usatoday.net/communitymanager/_photos/the-huddle/2011/10/18/cpx-large.jpg
cache.daylife.com/imageserve/07X42S9aH0bYn/439x.jpg
October 18th, 2011 at 6:29 pm
Palmer & Pryor. Wow! That’s Green Bay’s situation redux. We will be winning for a long time gents.
October 18th, 2011 at 6:29 pm
I think we know why there are a couple guys here that resent a person “like” Carson becoming our top QB.
Think about it.
October 18th, 2011 at 6:29 pm
Blackmamba_20 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 5:43 pm
Oakland Raiders 2012 draft picks:
1st round: Traded to Bengals for Carson Palmer
2nd round: Traded to Patriots for 2011 3rd- and 4th-rd picks
3rd round: Exercised in 2011 supplemental draft (Terrelle Pryor)
4th round: Traded to Redskins for Jason Campbell
5th round: Still own pick
6th round: Still own pick
7th round: Traded to Seahawks for Aaron Curry
…………
It’s Mark Davis’s team!
Why do you care?
IF you had a business, would you let other people tell you how to run it?
(how does it feel?)
October 18th, 2011 at 6:29 pm
We have mortgaged our future on this trade and some people want instant gratification. Give Palmer a couple of weeks, that’s all I’m saying.
October 18th, 2011 at 6:29 pm
Was that enough info for you LMN/Gold.
October 18th, 2011 at 6:30 pm
DearDhb,Ford,Schilens,Moore
…..you will now be introduced to the the streak/GO route next practice.You also no longer have to obtain your 100 yards on comebacks & slants
Welcome to the vertical passing game
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And by the way, these routes require you to stay in bounds while making the catch, thus you should expect the throws — and I know this is a new concept to you — to target a yard to the *inside* of the sideline from now on.
October 18th, 2011 at 6:31 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 6:14 pm
I hear they wanted Palmer to have Tommy John surgery, 2 years back.
I also hear his arm ain’t what it used to be.
…
Hue Jackson… “We wouldnt make a deal like this if we thought that he wasnt 100 percent healthy, were expecting the guy who was the #1 pick in 03 “
October 18th, 2011 at 6:31 pm
Goldie7 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 6:26 pm
317.La Milicia Negra Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 6:23 pm
I asked you a question a few times, let me try again…
do you google your knowledge or have you studied medicine?
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So the Twit was being sarcastic? lol
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I dont know, but he clearly got the answer wrong!
Most common uses of ibuprofen
Fever
Inflammation
Headache
Toothache
Back pain
Arthritis, including juvenile arthritis
Menstrual main
Minor injuries
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/161071.php
it took me 5 seconds to find it, furthermore I knew Ibuprofen works, my doctor ordered when my arm effed up!
October 18th, 2011 at 6:32 pm
The NFL just got a wake up call. Between DMac, Palmer/ our WR’s, Boss and hue’s playcalling (reverses and trick plays), we are going to be tough to defend, if not impossible.
October 18th, 2011 at 6:33 pm
http://www.raiders.com/media-vault/videos/Behind-the-Shield-Online-10-18-11/272da5ce-ca0d-40b7-b55c-98a7c7da9b1d
October 18th, 2011 at 6:34 pm
Zymurge Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 6:30 pm
DearDhb,Ford,Schilens,Moore
…..you will now be introduced to the the streak/GO route next practice.You also no longer have to obtain your 100 yards on comebacks & slants
Welcome to the vertical passing game
—
And by the way, these routes require you to stay in bounds while making the catch, thus you should expect the throws — and I know this is a new concept to you — to target a yard to the *inside* of the sideline from now on.
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lol
How about that Boller to Schilens connection Sunday?
I’d like to see chaz on some fades in the endzone(if his knees so desire)
October 18th, 2011 at 6:35 pm
We won with Kyle Boller last week. The only time we felt the game was in danger was after the onside kick. We will do just fine this weekend with Kyle Boller or Mad Bomber III.
October 18th, 2011 at 6:36 pm
321.JB Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 6:25 pm
1st & 10 on the Raider 20. The opponents look across the LOS and see Palmer under center, DHB, Ford, D-Wow & Schillins all lined up in a 4 wide out and DMac in the backfield. What do they do?
A. call time out
B. Drop all your backs to the 20 yard line
C. Start back-peddling as quickly as possible
This is what opposing defenses will have to deal with. Alternately, they will also see Boss, Bush & Reece all viable weapons able to go all the way. This offense has the potential of being the scariest offense in the NFL. This offense will easily be equal to or better than any other one out there. They said Philly was the dream team. Who’d guess that it really was Oakland who had the dream team that just became a reality.
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The Greatest Show on Turf.
October 18th, 2011 at 6:36 pm
Whats a Drexl? Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 6:26 pm
La Milicia Negra Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 6:13 pm
Drexl, were do get your medicine info, something you studied for long time?
=================
Sorry LMN i missed this.
I only have the experience of a family member with sever back cramps. I had to pick up the prescription.
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its all good, if I have it for a a few days I might go to doctor, but I obviously cant now. Furthermore Valium you recommended, is a severe drug here, so I need a prescription to get that stuff. Ibuprofen I got, they get the job done – well mostly.
October 18th, 2011 at 6:37 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 6:14 pm
I hear they wanted Palmer to have Tommy John surgery, 2 years back.
I also hear his arm ain’t what it used to be.
…..
On Tuesday morning, Shutdown Corner spoke with Travelle Gaines of Athletes Performance in Carson, Calif., where Palmer has been working out for months. As it turns out, Gaines — who also works with the Raiders in an advisory capacity — was the man the Raiders leaned on to find out what kind of football shape Palmer was in. “He looks great — he’s been throwing every day, and working with Ken O’Brien, the quarterbacks coach,” Gaines said. “He’s been throwing to his good buddy T.J. Houshmandzadeh(notes), working with Terrell Owens(notes) and Hank Baskett(notes). He looks great. I think he’ll be ready to go and step right in for the Raiders. He and Coach Jackson have worked together in the past, and they have a great relationship.”
Gaines has built up one of the more impressive NFL clienteles as a conditioning coach over the years, and the Raiders asked him to join their staff to play a similar role in the 2011 offseason. That paid dividends when the team starting doing due diligence on Palmer’s ability … and availability. “Coach Jackson leaned on me heavily through this process, and they definitely kept tabs on him,” Gaines said of Palmer.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Carson-Palmer-to-the-Raiders-Looks-like-it-821;_ylt=AkZZEBs1naw_NuuI9l1lUh5DubYF?urn=nfl-wp9852
October 18th, 2011 at 6:38 pm
337.La Milicia Negra Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 6:31 pm
Goldie7 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 6:26 pm
317.La Milicia Negra Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 6:23 pm
I asked you a question a few times, let me try again…
do you google your knowledge or have you studied medicine?
****************************************************
So the Twit was being sarcastic? lol
______________________________________________________
I dont know, but he clearly got the answer wrong!
Most common uses of ibuprofen
Fever
Inflammation
Headache
Toothache
Back pain
Arthritis, including juvenile arthritis
Menstrual main
Minor injuries
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/161071.php
it took me 5 seconds to find it, furthermore I knew Ibuprofen works, my doctor ordered when my arm effed up!
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Good one La Milicia. lol:)
October 18th, 2011 at 6:39 pm
I was listening to Jay Glazer talk about this some and I have to agree. While fans of teams that have solid QBs will look at this and scream we got robbed and paid too much fans of teams that don’t have a solid QB will say yeah you have to pay the price to get that guy on your team.
Is the price of a 1 and a 2 (possibly 2 1’s) high.. Hell yeah it is but with a player coming out of college thats never played a down in the NFL you never know what youre going to get. With Palmer who admittedly has had a couple rough seasons you at least have a gauge of the quality of player he is and how he will react while playing in the NFL.
October 18th, 2011 at 6:39 pm
October 18th, 2011 at 6:39 pm
Whats A Drexl? Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 6:26 pm
La Milicia Negra Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 6:13 pm
Drexl, were do get your medicine info, something you studied for long time?
=================
Sorry LMN i missed this.
I only have the experience of a family member with sever back cramps. I had to pick up the prescription.
*************************************************
As far I know neuromuscular blockers (ex. valium) are not as effective as non-steriodal anti inflammatory drugs (two of which are aspirin and ibuprofen) especially when not used in conjunction with nsaids. Valium especially produces sedation in the amounts needed to reduce muscle tone. Baclofen would be and is the one I use while staying wide awake.
October 18th, 2011 at 6:39 pm
First major news conference without Al Davis.
Hue is an excellent face of this franchise. Professional, doesn’t take any crap…
I like the way he comports himself.
October 18th, 2011 at 6:39 pm
Anyone, why is this news? Go Hue!
October 18th, 2011 at 6:40 pm
Jebus christ! what happen in the NFL in the 80’s??? all those players around 50 dies right now, they must have been doped crazy back then!
October 18th, 2011 at 6:40 pm
However Baclofen ^
October 18th, 2011 at 6:43 pm
Bcz24 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 6:22 pm
Did we pick up Shephard or not? Haven’t seen this anywhere but here…
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It was reported by a few people on Twitter that he was in for a workout. No word if he was signed or not.
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I was told a locker was being set up for him. Looks like that is on hold until after tomorrows practice. I think Hue needs to do a lil compare and contrast Lito to a couple players now on the roster. We got another DB to look at tomorrow. Lito may be asked to play FS so Huff can move to CB more often.
October 18th, 2011 at 6:44 pm
Coach Jackson musta had some big focking man sized man balls to pull this schit off. HueJax went after it and got it done. Hell yeah. We know who controls the ass on this team now. Mark and Amy are rubber stamp/sign the check/spectators as HueJax builds that bully!
October 18th, 2011 at 6:46 pm
Soma, Norco, and 211 work well too.
October 18th, 2011 at 6:47 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 4:15 pm
You guys trashing JC after what he has done for the stability and SANITY for THIS team is just plain wrong. All joking aside, just wrong. JC was poised to get this team playoff bound and it was him that had to help alon the DHBs and Fords etc. Provided leadership and a role model on a team that SORELY needed one.
Just shows that life will throw some big time curves ones way. To go from leading a real resurgance for a storied franchise, playoffs and more and a new contract to NOTHING!
You all need a touch of class! I was honored to see JC live last week fight it out! Nothing but respect for the man!
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You make a great point SnB. JCamp laid it on the line for us. His first slide looked just like all his other girly slides and I yelled out there he goes again with that bullcrap slide 4 yds short of the marker…. Somebody must have mentioned it to him on the sideline during the punt because his very next opportunity he goes in head first like a man and gets his clavicle cracked. Had he been the softee he was he would be our QB today and thus no Palmer.
Things happen for a reason and we now have Palmer. It’s just tough luck for JCamp. One play and we get two breaks: Campbell’s and Palmer.
October 18th, 2011 at 6:47 pm
Rat faced needs big house
http://dc.sbnation.com/washington-redskins/2011/10/18/2497961/mike-shanahan-washington-redskins-coach-mansion
October 18th, 2011 at 6:48 pm
Raiders will mop the field with KC’s ass in tow next sunday. And after they mop the field with they asses, they’ll proceed to butt-plug said asses to ease the pain for the flight home. And the wont be stain the seats on the bus and the plane cuz those butt-pluggs will do the trick. KC will enjoy the plugg, they be lookin forward to it.
Raiders 38
KC 3
October 18th, 2011 at 6:49 pm
Hue, Mark, and Amy are doing a great job!
First we change defensive philosophies and stop the run two games in a row.
Then we make two great trades for Curry and Palmer.
And the fake kick was awesome!
I especially like Sea Bass moving into position to pass block for Lechler.
October 18th, 2011 at 6:49 pm
The Realist Dirty Raccoon Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 6:46 pm
Soma, Norco, and 211 work well too.
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Soma and Norco kind of f you up and cause drowsiness. However I used to take them for fun. 211 is pretty good stuff but that is what my garden is for.
October 18th, 2011 at 6:50 pm
HueKnows Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 6:39 pm
Whats A Drexl? Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 6:26 pm
La Milicia Negra Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 6:13 pm
Drexl, were do get your medicine info, something you studied for long time?
=================
Sorry LMN i missed this.
I only have the experience of a family member with sever back cramps. I had to pick up the prescription.
*************************************************
As far I know neuromuscular blockers (ex. valium) are not as effective as non-steriodal anti inflammatory drugs (two of which are aspirin and ibuprofen) especially when not used in conjunction with nsaids. Valium especially produces sedation in the amounts needed to reduce muscle tone. Baclofen would be and is the one I use while staying wide awake.
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again, Im not saying he isnt right, im just sayin ibuprofen DOES work, maybe not as good as all the other stuff you guys a mentioning, but thats pretty obvious.
Obvious because it a prescription drug, why is it that, because its a stronger drug! tah dah
I use what I got, because I obviously cant go to the doctor right now, and obviously the apotheque isnt an option either
October 18th, 2011 at 6:50 pm
The o-line definitely has their work cut out for them protecting the future.
October 18th, 2011 at 6:51 pm
Al produced and left behind a three headed beast in Hue, Amy and Mark. Al knew what he was doing all along. Code Black.
October 18th, 2011 at 6:55 pm
again, Im not saying he isnt right, im just sayin ibuprofen DOES work, maybe not as good as all the other stuff you guys a mentioning, but thats pretty obvious.
Obvious because it a prescription drug, why is it that, because its a stronger drug! tah dah
I use what I got, because I obviously cant go to the doctor right now, and obviously the apotheque isnt an option either
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I’m agreeing with you NSAIDS (aspirin )work on a different more appropriate mechanism (blocking nicotinic receptors).
October 18th, 2011 at 6:55 pm
Wasn’t originally doing cartwheels over the trade considering what we gave up for him, but I look at this team and the the only hole I see is at DT. The O-line has been addressed,, wr has been addressed,,cb has been addressed,, LB has been addressed,,Rb (obviously),,,I think we may be able to use our very few late rnd picks to find some quality DTs,,the Qb looks to be filled with Carson Palmer while T. Pryor learns behind him (he’s only 20). We may be set to make a serious run. That being said,,Carson Palmer doesn’t get a pass for quiting on his former team (Randy Moss) so I wanna see him man up in Oakland. I’m on board. Don’t let us down Carson. Remember,,,Carson, not JaCarson,,just Carson.
Building a Football Team
October 18th, 2011 at 6:55 pm
Maybe Al left instructions in case JC went down.
October 18th, 2011 at 6:56 pm
Turns out the 2nd rounder only becomes a 1st rounder if the Raiders make the AFC Championship game.
Ok, that makes the trade balanced. Basically for the Raiders to get that far, Palmer has to be playing at the highest level….which would be the only way you give up TWO 1st rounders.
So I am cool with the deal. I am hopeful that Carson Palmer’s arm etc…are as lively as it was when he was at the top of his game.
October 18th, 2011 at 6:56 pm
But unlike the lot of you…I am not tossing JC under the bus after what he did for this franchise the last 18 games
October 18th, 2011 at 6:56 pm
363.Big Honkin Balls Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 6:51 pm
Al produced and left behind a three headed beast in Hue, Amy and Mark. Al knew what he was doing all along. Code Black.
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Now all we need is a good GM to work with them.
Man, that Cinci GM Mike Brown sure is a d!ck.
No wonder Palmer wanted out of that place.
He looks like the Bond villian Blofeld!
October 18th, 2011 at 6:56 pm
332.Sullivan44 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 6:29 pm
Blackmamba_20 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 5:43 pm
Oakland Raiders 2012 draft picks:
1st round: Traded to Bengals for Carson Palmer
2nd round: Traded to Patriots for 2011 3rd- and 4th-rd picks
3rd round: Exercised in 2011 supplemental draft (Terrelle Pryor)
4th round: Traded to Redskins for Jason Campbell
5th round: Still own pick
6th round: Still own pick
7th round: Traded to Seahawks for Aaron Curry
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It’s Mark Davis’s team!
Why do you care?
IF you had a business, would you let other people tell you how to run it?
(how does it feel?)
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what are you talking about ?? thats a copy straight off ESPN … Whats the point your trying to make PAL
October 18th, 2011 at 6:57 pm
@367 that is good to hear. I thought it was if we just made the playoffs.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:01 pm
I personally give Carson a pass…he never quit on his teamates ala Randy, he gave it all he had while on the field….reason I give him a pass, these are the bungholes
Randy quit on the field and then actually admitted it when he proclaimed “I play when I wanna play”
October 18th, 2011 at 7:02 pm
Post 368,,,Ditto!
October 18th, 2011 at 7:06 pm
Oii Sullivan you square, what was your point !!
October 18th, 2011 at 7:06 pm
HueKnows Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 6:55 pm
again, Im not saying he isnt right, im just sayin ibuprofen DOES work, maybe not as good as all the other stuff you guys a mentioning, but thats pretty obvious.
Obvious because it a prescription drug, why is it that, because its a stronger drug! tah dah
I use what I got, because I obviously cant go to the doctor right now, and obviously the apotheque isnt an option either
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I’m agreeing with you NSAIDS (aspirin )work on a different more appropriate mechanism (blocking nicotinic receptors).
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way too technical terms for me =) sorry but that stuff is all greek to me =)
and nothing I can do, the clock is 4:00 AM, so no doctors and no apotheque, but I got my ibuprofen, btw I hate aspirin, weird if its the same!!?!?
you write, blocking the nocotinic receptors, does that mean smoking a cigarette is like sticking your tongue out the window??
October 18th, 2011 at 7:07 pm
So, who won the ibuprofen/muscle relaxer debate?
October 18th, 2011 at 7:08 pm
Oh, still going.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:10 pm
Blackmamba, remember when people used to criticize Al’s decisions regarding long term contracts, cap, what have you, and people would say, “it’s his team. It’s not your money, it’s his. He can do what he wants”?
Well, now I’m saying the same thing regarding Mark Davis and this deal. It’s his money. Butt out.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:11 pm
Kirk Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 6:56 pm
363.Big Honkin Balls Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 6:51 pm
Al produced and left behind a three headed beast in Hue, Amy and Mark. Al knew what he was doing all along. Code Black.
…………………………………………..
Now all we need is a good GM to work with them.
Man, that Cinci GM Mike Brown sure is a d!ck.
No wonder Palmer wanted out of that place.
He looks like the Bond villian Blofeld!
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I think Amy was behind this deal! there were reports yesterday that Hue Jackson’s relationship with the bengals was to hinder of the deal, had any other been our HC it would have happened earlier! I really think sympathy for Al and good work from Amy pulled this deal home!
October 18th, 2011 at 7:11 pm
Jr77,,he did quit though,,he did by not going back on the field. He basically took his ball and went home by saying I don’t wanna play for the Bengals anymore. Just think if he had done that with us,,he wouldve gotten ran outa Oakland. I understand him wanting outa there but he still had a job to do. But like Randy he’s been given a 2nd chance so I hope he makes the best of it. I think we both can agree on that. I still got much respect for JC, but I can’t wait to see if Palmer can bring us back into the playoffs.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:13 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 7:07 pm
So, who won the ibuprofen/muscle relaxer debate?
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I think it turned out that we were all fighting the same match, with no opponent.. some were just saying you need bigger gloves, some said those are fine, and lastly I said I hope they are fine, because its all i got!
Had I the bigger gloves I had used’em =)
October 18th, 2011 at 7:14 pm
nicotinic blockers or not (whatever that is), Im going for a smoke!
October 18th, 2011 at 7:16 pm
you write, blocking the nocotinic receptors, does that mean smoking a cigarette is like sticking your tongue out the window??
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not quite but it might take your mind off the pain for a minute
and Ibuprofen is similar to aspirin but less irritating to the upper digestive track
October 18th, 2011 at 7:16 pm
tract ^
October 18th, 2011 at 7:20 pm
Pretty Rick….never would have quit under Al’s watch, especially given his USC roots, big arm and on field production…there is also behind the scenes stuff we will never hear about…who knows cincinnati was a 3 ring circus for a reason
October 18th, 2011 at 7:20 pm
When’s the next Sullivan roast?
October 18th, 2011 at 7:20 pm
People are making too much of the long term cost of this. Very few first round draft picks pan out anyway. Always possibilities for trades between free agency and draft, where draft picks can be obtained. The only real long term effect is cap. But we need a QB. Even if Campbell was good (he’s not), we’d need someone now. Boller is OK but I don’t think he’s even in Palmer’s league. If we go with Boller we run the risk of letting this great season fall apart. This really had to be done. And the only true long term cost is cap space, but that can always be worked out, too. So just STFU and be happy. We’re in such a good position right now it’s not even funny.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:21 pm
378.Sullivan44 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 7:10 pm
Blackmamba, remember when people used to criticize Al’s decisions regarding long term contracts, cap, what have you, and people would say, “it’s his team. It’s not your money, it’s his. He can do what he wants”?
Well, now I’m saying the same thing regarding Mark Davis and this deal. It’s his money. Butt out.
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really in attempt to be a wise cracking smart a@@ your still making no sense to why you copied part of my post, which was a ESPN breakdown of next years pick i copy and pasted for this blogs review..Clown
October 18th, 2011 at 7:21 pm
380.Pretty Rick Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 7:11 pm
Jr77,,he did quit though,,he did by not going back on the field. He basically took his ball and went home by saying I don’t wanna play for the Bengals anymore. Just think if he had done that with us,,he wouldve gotten ran outa Oakland. I understand him wanting outa there but he still had a job to do. But like Randy he’s been given a 2nd chance so I hope he makes the best of it. I think we both can agree on that. I still got much respect for JC, but I can’t wait to see if Palmer can bring us back into the playoffs.
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Thank God, Palmer wanted out of there.
If not, Boller would be our starter for the next two months.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:22 pm
HueKnows Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 7:20 pm
When’s the next Sullivan roast?
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Starts right now. Hit the ignore button and see what happens.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:23 pm
sullivan i love all the trades and picks given to make them, i posted that list as a break down from ESPN so we could discuss pros and cons, so you STFU Dawg
October 18th, 2011 at 7:24 pm
What’s up video boys?
October 18th, 2011 at 7:24 pm
Sullivan is such a p*ssy he uses a litter box.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:27 pm
Sullivan’s mom is a gold member on cougarlife.com
October 18th, 2011 at 7:27 pm
Raider_D Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 6:39 pm
I was listening to Jay Glazer talk about this some and I have to agree. While fans of teams that have solid QBs will look at this and scream we got robbed and paid too much fans of teams that don’t have a solid QB will say yeah you have to pay the price to get that guy on your team.
Is the price of a 1 and a 2 (possibly 2 1’s) high.. Hell yeah it is but with a player coming out of college thats never played a down in the NFL you never know what youre going to get. With Palmer who admittedly has had a couple rough seasons you at least have a gauge of the quality of player he is and how he will react while playing in the NFL.
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This post is exactly right. Getting Palmer for what we paid is a bargain. Paying what we paid for Jacarcass was a rip.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:27 pm
HueKnows Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 6:49 pm
The Realist Dirty Raccoon Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 6:46 pm
Soma, Norco, and 211 work well too.
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Soma and Norco kind of f you up and cause drowsiness. However I used to take them for fun. 211 is pretty good stuff but that is what my garden is for.
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Ambien and Percocet work well too.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:29 pm
Is anyone concerned that this might turn into Kerry Collins 2.0? I’m not and love this trade, but the thought suddenly occurred to me…
October 18th, 2011 at 7:29 pm
Sullivan is so annoying he is the reason God created the middle finger.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:32 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 7:20 pm
People are making too much of the long term cost of this. Very few first round draft picks pan out anyway. Always possibilities for trades between free agency and draft, where draft picks can be obtained. The only real long term effect is cap. But we need a QB. Even if Campbell was good (he’s not), we’d need someone now. Boller is OK but I don’t think he’s even in Palmer’s league. If we go with Boller we run the risk of letting this great season fall apart. This really had to be done. And the only true long term cost is cap space, but that can always be worked out, too. So just STFU and be happy. We’re in such a good position right now it’s not even funny.
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I totally agree!
right now we use the same tactic on draft picks as Al has done for years on the cap-problem…
we pay for todays problem next year! we pay today salaries next year, and now we get our players today with next years pick..
if it pans out, no problem! if it doesnt its just like picking a JaMarcus in 1st round.. so its no biggy, in fact I see it as we have an upper hand!
October 18th, 2011 at 7:32 pm
Raiders are deep, young, and talented at every unit, now we have a franchise qb:
Oline, Vehldeer, Wisniewski, Satele, Campbell, Carlisle, Barnes, Barksdale, and Heyer
Dline; Seymour, Shaughnessy, Kelly, Houston, Bryant, Scott, Moss, Henderson
LB; McClain, Wimbley, (now) Curry, Groves and Blackstock
RB; McFadden, Bush, Reece, Jones, Cartwright, Tonga
WRs six deep, good hands, fast
kicking game second to none
Last thing we need is a first round draft pick ,
Only need a franchise qb,
Now the Raiders have “it.”
October 18th, 2011 at 7:35 pm
#400 I agree. Al really built us a team to relish for quite a few years and Hue capped it off with the QB.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:37 pm
Quarterback Depth Chart for 2012:
1. Carson Palmer
2. Jason Campbell (if he wants to stay)
3. Terelle Pryor
October 18th, 2011 at 7:38 pm
Goldie7 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 4:53 pm
Yep, Many Props and Thanks to Jason Campbell. I will always be grateful to Campbell because he wanted to be the Raiders QB even when McNabb didn’t want to be our QB. Kudos to Jason…you will never be forgotten.
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Dude you’re on a roll tonight. Amen and Godspeed.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:44 pm
Boyd released, thanks for the hard work boyd.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:09 pm
As much as I don’t like this trade and believe that Palmer won’t bring anything new to the table over Campbell I believe if the Raiders are to get the best out of him they need to start him right away against KC. It’s not like the Hue would be able to get him up to speed during the bye because of the new restrictions placed on bye week practices in the new CBA. Gotta get him a head start.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:20 pm
La Milicia Negra Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 7:11 pm
Kirk Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 6:56 pm
363.Big Honkin Balls Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 6:51 pm
Al produced and left behind a three headed beast in Hue, Amy and Mark. Al knew what he was doing all along. Code Black.
…………………………………………..
Now all we need is a good GM to work with them.
Man, that Cinci GM Mike Brown sure is a d!ck.
No wonder Palmer wanted out of that place.
He looks like the Bond villian Blofeld!
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I think Amy was behind this deal! there were reports yesterday that Hue Jackson’s relationship with the bengals was to hinder of the deal, had any other been our HC it would have happened earlier! I really think sympathy for Al and good work from Amy pulled this deal home!
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LMN – Untrue. Hue is best of friends with Mr. Brown of the Bengals. Hue used to be an Asst. coach there and supposedly left on very good terms. If anything, it was the Bengals HC that would have tried to hold up the deal. I don’t believe he did either because his new QB is doing just fine and the picks they will get will really help them in the future.
I’m sure Amy was deeply involved in the contractual things that had to be worked out but that’s about her only involvement other than rubber stamping the deal.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:11 pm
Al would have wanted the Raiders to bring in the best player available at the time to give the Raiders the best chances to win, now. That is what coach Hue Jackson did. Campbell did a reaaly good job for the team and I know he would want the best chances for the team to succeed while he cannot play.
Raiders lets get ready to win a ball game. Ausberry looked like he can do some serious damage to a defense if you dial up some plays for him. With all the other threats the Chiefs have to worry about Ausberry would be a second though for them.
I believe Boller can take on the Chiefs this week and win!! he needs to show he does add valve to this team in time of need. Boller, Boller, Boller!!! what a challange.
October 19th, 2011 at 2:35 am
AH so what? we give up Draft picks….At least you know what your getting with Carson Palmer. Any time you lay down a 1st rounder it’s a huge gamble, And the gambles the Raiders have put down on Picks hasn’t had much of a return.
I think Trades are where it’s at these days…let some one else take the risks…buy what you know.
I am confident that Boller has the skillz to win it on Sunday…do I think he starts…my gut tells me no. He does have a chip on his shoulder…if he plays I hope he lights up the score board with the best game of his life.
THERE IS ONLY 1 NATION!! RAIDER NATION!! AND I AM PROUD TO BE A LIFE LONG RAIDER FAN!!
October 19th, 2011 at 3:35 am
All Veterans at any position know that there is no replacement for game-speed and game conditions. I’ll feel better about this whole thing once Palmer gets a few snaps under his belt.
And what’s this crap about other teams fans referring to themselves as the “Nation”. There is but one “Nation”, the original.
October 19th, 2011 at 5:07 am
The biggest reason this was a great trade……… carson will be the guy “grooming” pryor for the next 3 or 4 years. I’d prefer that any day over campbell, I like campbell but Pryor is essentially our 1st round pick next year. This team is young with the exception of a few leaders. We’re not even gonna blink on this trade.
October 19th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
HowieLongsNeckPad Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 3:56 pm
Yesssssssssssssssssssssss
finally a white QB…just saying———-
WHAT ARE YOU “just saying?” SAYING THAT YOUR A CLOSET RACISTS…
yeah i guess thats exactly what your saying and dude… i’m white!
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