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Former Bengals safety says he has signed with Raiders

By Steve Corkran
Tuesday, October 18th, 2011 at 12:21 am in Oakland Raiders.

For what it’s worth, former Cincinnati Bengals safety Chinedum Ndukwe said via Twitter that he has signed with the Raiders.
“I’m excited to announce I JUST signed with the Oakland @Raiders ! Looking fwd to playing in #RaiderNation,” Ndukwe said on his Twitter account.
For the record, the Raiders have not announced the transaction, and it has not been confirmed anywhere else, so this is a wait-and-see proposition.
Ndukwe, 26, spent his first four NFL seasons with the Bengals, where he started 31 games. He is 6-feet-2 and 224 pounds.
None of the Raiders safeties is injured, which makes this a curious move on the surface.

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129 Responses to “Former Bengals safety says he has signed with Raiders”

  1. BigTed707 Says:

    # BigTed707 Says:
    October 18th, 2011 at 12:22 am

    I was wrong about Aaron Curry.

    He did not suck.

    He was a noticeable improvement in the run game over Q. I hope he continues to improve and make plays.

    I also hope Q continues to develop and make plays on special teams.

    Start CJ37 if healthy next week? – DVD looks great in coverage, but he is just too small to make the tackle!

  2. BigTed707 Says:

    This signing make no sense.

    I suspect JMAC got Dakota’d.

  3. Otis60 Says:

    Moore, Ford and DHB. It is nice to have an abundance of riches. Rob, I know in my gut it is more than accuracy problems with Boller but I am hoping he somehow pulls a rabbit out of his hat. If he does then we win in a rout.

  4. BigTed707 Says:

    # rob_raider Says:
    October 18th, 2011 at 12:21 am

    BigTed707 Says:
    October 18th, 2011 at 12:17 am
    Dmac, Bush and Jones = Killers.

    O-line playing very strong.

    Stable of healthy WRs for once.

    3 Healthy TE.

    Defense on the Rise.

    High Scoring Special Teams Unit.

    Dam, I don’t think even Boller can mess this up!

    Go Raiders!
    ******************

    he can mess it up w/ 3 or 4 picks.

    sorry. i’m just not feeling this guy. i’m hoping to hear about a new qb tomorrow. i hope the ndukwe signing means perhaps there’s a trade underway. maybe mitchell involved. i like him but 6 safeties? huff and branch playing well. giordano making plays and getting lots of time. boyd playing a lot (although making mistakes at times). where’s ndukwe fit in?

    ********************
    Boyd can go imo. I like MM34, I think our Defense has looked better since he’s been healthy.

    As far as Boller goes… I’m just hoping the rest of our guys will step up and win anyway. We are still a good team.

  5. priesttj Says:

    No I think this one is real waive goodbye to Boyd..

  6. Otis60 Says:

    BigTed, maybe we are trading one of our safeties for a QB like Rob mentioned. I am hoping it is not Huff or Mitchell.

  7. RaiderResurrection Says:

    I hope Terrelle Pryor is as good a college quarterback at Ohio State as he will be here. I miss having a real quarterback taking the snaps.

  8. priesttj Says:

    I notice they’re trying to get guys in that run and hit and that’s why you are seeing them switchup so much they’re trying to get the right mix. Whatever that is…Gio has played well the last 2 weeks but Boyd has been MIA…

  9. BigTed707 Says:

    Otis60 Says:
    October 18th, 2011 at 12:32 am

    BigTed, maybe we are trading one of our safeties for a QB like Rob mentioned. I am hoping it is not Huff or Mitchell.

    ****************

    Depends on what we get in return…

    I don’t want to lose any of our guys, we have a good team already dammit! If we lose Huff, or Mitchell, we better be getting someone Orton quality or better.

    If this guy replaces Boyd as depth, I’m cool with that.

  10. priesttj Says:

    I gaurantee our secondary has been much betetr since MM34 got in there did you see that play he made when Branch got that pick??? that was one helluva play!

  11. RaiderResurrection Says:

    Boyd keeps giving up the catch in important times. He’s too slow reacting. In the NFL if you’re a safety with slow reacting times, your career last one, two, or three years ala Stuart Schweigert.

  12. rob_raider Says:

    Otis60 Says:
    October 18th, 2011 at 12:29 am
    Moore, Ford and DHB, it is sure nice to have an abundance of riches. Rob, you are not raining on on the parade. I know in my gut it is more than accuracy but I am hoping Boller pulls a rabbit out of his hat. If he can, it is a rout.
    *********************

    i’ve just been enjoying this season so much. i never thought jc was great. but he was doing pretty well. and the team was getting better and better. i just hate the idea of boller killing us or going back to some vanilla offense to keep him from killing us (which ends up killing us in a different way). i am hoping for a new qb. i feel strongly, based on hue’s comments, that he is trying to do it. but if it ends up boller, i will be hoping like crazy he somehow has “matured”, as some qb’s do, and he can lead us to the playoffs.

    but i know this: if it was a month until the season, and it was reported that campbell was hurt for the season and the raiders had these choices to fill the position:

    boller
    favre
    orton
    palmer
    mcnabb

    boller would be last on everyone’s wish list.

    i know people want to be optimistic and support our guy, and if it stays the same, i’ll root for boller too, but i desperately want any of the above in approximately this order:

    palmer
    orton
    favre
    mcnabb
    boller

  13. Otis60 Says:

    Priest, I think Hue was the right coach for AD to pick as since AD knew his health was failing. To take our offense and to make it go from bad to very good was special. What I also like about Hue is he is getting involved with the Oakland community which the other coaches didn’t seem to do. He also embraced AD’s influence where the other coaches were bothered by it even though they knew what they were getting into when they signed on.

  14. Otis60 Says:

    Rob, I agree with your QB wish list. Favre would be an emotional number one on the list but you are right, this season is special and Palmer or Orton give us a better chance to stay the course or even do a lot better.

  15. priesttj Says:

    Boller’s career is riding on how well he plays all he has to do is not get us beat. he doesn’t have to win games just make a few stick throws here and there. And he can do that and just run the offense get it to the playmakers and he’ll succeed.

  16. BigTed707 Says:

    Rob – How is bringing a QB in of the street going to make the offense better than a guy who has been practicing with this team for years?

    I think bringing in a new arm would make our offense “more vanilla” if anything. At least at for the first few weeks.

    I’m talking about Boller beating KC in Oakland (I’ll be there watching). I don’t think Boller is the QB of the future, but this team can still win.

  17. rob_raider Says:

    yes! if we get the right guy, i think we come out of this even better! nothing against jc. i liked him, just didn’t love him. but palmer or orton, while not great, are pretty good, and i think even a little better than jc. favre would be like going for it on 4th or faking the field goal. it may not work, but it’s taking a shot at the super bowl. and it would be nuts. the raiders would be big news. and if there’s one guy who might electrify things, it’s him.

  18. Otis60 Says:

    BigTed, I think Boller is good enough against KC but he scares me for the long haul. I hope I am wrong minus my comment about the KC game.

  19. rob_raider Says:

    here’s my problem w/ boller: he makes mistakes. he’s not the type to manage a game. he kills a team. a big arm and mobility. but he ends up throwing picks. what we can’t have is a turnover machine. palmer/orton/favre/mcnabb aren’t really “off-the-street” guys. they have 3 weeks to get ready for denver. the timing is fortuitous b/c of the bye.

  20. rob_raider Says:

    cmon guys.

    pick a qb from this list to lead ur team at the beginning of the season. who picks boller?

    favre
    palmer
    orton
    mcnabb
    boller

  21. rob_raider Says:

    i have a very strong feeling one of those guys is a raider in the morning

  22. rob_raider Says:

    or two actually

  23. Otis60 Says:

    I’ll take Palmer if we don’t have to give away the store to get him.

  24. BigTed707 Says:

    # Otis60 Says:
    October 18th, 2011 at 12:45 am

    BigTed, I think Boller is good enough against KC but he scares me for the long haul. I hope I am wrong minus my comment about the KC game.
    ***************
    I take it one week at a time. Beat KC, then assess the situation going into the Bye week.

    If you panic, you drown.

  25. priesttj Says:

    I think everyone is reacting to what his stats say and what he’s done thus far but I’m telling ya there are times when a guy just finally gets it. Hue will manage Boller well it’s not like he has to throw for 300 2 TD’s every game he has to not get us beat and make the sam ethrows he made in that game Sunday, that’s it! he has the armstrength to stretch the field and I think he’ll get better and better.

    Orton to me is just another guy and Favre is someones dream mostly teh writers who couldn’t care less if we won or not they just want the stories. Palmer wont happen until the offseason and Trent said no….yeah add a QB for insurance but to make some trade that wont work now or later is a panic move IMO! Just get a guy in here for insurance and keep it movin’

  26. BigTed707 Says:

    Palmer is Raiderman99’s MUP pick.

  27. Otis60 Says:

    That is funny you say that BigTed. I was involved in a white water rafting accident and I kept telling myself the same. The drowning not the taking it one week at a time ;)

  28. priesttj Says:

    I take it one week at a time. Beat KC, then assess the situation going into the Bye week.

    If you panic, you drown.

    priesttj Says: I totally agree just wait and see how he does sunday how can that hurt?

  29. lefty12 Says:

    Rob,Boller has never played with weapons like he has on this team.Hopefully he won’t make those mistakes he made when he was younger.He needs to realize that at times he shouldn’t try to make the perfect throw.If he can corral some of those tendencies,he should do fine.

  30. Otis60 Says:

    Priest, do you know why Edwards said no ?

  31. BigTed707 Says:

    Boller has never started with this Oline, these RBs, and these recievers. He is an unknown.

  32. rob_raider Says:

    bigted–if it’s a trade, it MUST be now, b/c of the trade deadline. only favre is available later.

    priest–it’s possible boller has matured and is capable of having a plunkett-like late career blossoming. but it is definitely unlikely. i would feel ok w/ him for 2 or 3 games. hoping to win 2 out of 3 or something. but for 10 games? i just don’t feel good about it. if nothing happens tomorrow, i’ll have to hope boller and hue have some tricks up their sleeves.

  33. priesttj Says:

    Rob_Raider Man I’m tellin ya’ Palmer wont get traded not this season that guy will NOT reward im for what he’s done to him. It’s wishful thinking

    And Favrre is a damn JOKE!

    IMO either you make a trade ofr a guy who wont be ready until maybe 5 weeks from now or forget it….YOU are dreaming if you think some guy is going to come in here and rescue us in 2 weeks it aint gonna happen…………period

  34. rob_raider Says:

    i think i feel even worse about it watching him play pretty shabbily on sunday. some of those throws were awful. i’m hoping hue goes for the green. let the big dog eat. a glorious failure would be better than a conservative “never-really-tried”.

  35. Otis60 Says:

    I was checking out Corkonthenfl and the Denver Post has cited an unnamed source as confirming the Broncos are trading Orton to the Raiders for a future draft choice.

  36. BigTed707 Says:

    I don’t understand why any QB would not want to play hear. After seeing the success J-Camp has had so far, I’d be like “Hell yeah! I’ll stand behind that line and hand the ball to D-MAC!

    Hell, a QB is likely to get a TD RECEPTION in Hue’s offense.

    I’m telling you – I don’t see Boller looking bad with this team, any QB would be fortunate to be here. Its weird saying that after the last 10 years or whatever, but I really believe it.

  37. nutso01 Says:

    Were rolling with Boller, he knows are system! We have no shot with anyone else in the foreseeable future.

  38. rob_raider Says:

    my gut feeling? we get palmer, orton, or mcnabb. mike brown may not trade him but then again, he might. orton would likely be cheap. having loom over the proceedings in denver is bad mojo. but that means having him to face denver in 3 weeks, so maybe they don’t want to go that route. mcnabb? oh boy. i kinda think he’s washed up.

    that leaves favre! cmon brett! put down ur texting-device and come add one last chapter to ur legacy bud! or go down in a flaming wreck. but at least we will have gone for it all.

  39. BigTed707 Says:

    # nutso01 Says:
    October 18th, 2011 at 1:01 am

    Were rolling with Boller, he knows are system! We have no shot with anyone else in the foreseeable future.

    *****************

    It sucks, but that’s football.

  40. priesttj Says:

    Rob_ Raider You want some kind of QUICK-FIX and there is no such thing no QB can come in here and run this offense better than Boller can in 2 weeks it’s impossible.

    Boller is better than anyone you can get over the next month or so…….. maybe a guy can be ready by say week 11 or 12 and that is pushing it!!!

    There is NO RESCUE MISSION to be had……you’re dreaming this is the NFL, DC’s will eat any guy up until he knows what he’s doing…………..period

  41. nutso01 Says:

    To: Otis60

    You dont know sh@t!

  42. rob_raider Says:

    oh sh*t otis! please let it be true! i’ll tell u this. if it’s try, all raiders fans will f*cking rejoice. everyone wants to support boller. but if we get a new guy, it will be “thank God!”

  43. BigTed707 Says:

    C’mon Rob. Is Boller really that much of a drop-off than J-Camp?

    You make it seem like we lost a pro-bowl QB or something.

    ITS THE TEAM!

  44. neilb Says:

    Nothing saying we’ve made a trade on the web…..yet.

    At what time does the deadline close?

    Im betting that all the Raiders do is re-sign Charlie Frye.

  45. rob_raider Says:

    priest–i think a guy like orton could get ready in 3 weeks.

  46. BigTed707 Says:

    I’m down with that Neilb. I’ll take Frye over Favre.

  47. BigTed707 Says:

    I’ll take Orton to beat DEN at home, then bench him just like they did. He’s a putz!

  48. priesttj Says:

    They aren’t ina advantageous position because it’s too far into the season we kind have to sit pat and get a guy for insurance and hope Boller gets it done. If we wee in week 2 or 3 yeah but we’re in week 7 the midway point it’s almost useless.

  49. Otis60 Says:

    To Nutso01, if that comment is because of my comment on what I have read on CorkontheNFL, you are right. I am just repeating what I read. If it is about other things I have written, then all I can say is you have a right to your opinion.

  50. rob_raider Says:

    BigTed707 Says:
    October 18th, 2011 at 1:06 am
    C’mon Rob. Is Boller really that much of a drop-off than J-Camp?

    You make it seem like we lost a pro-bowl QB or something.

    ITS THE TEAM!
    ******************

    jc wasn’t a pro-bowler but the difference between a guy who posts 84 qb rating and a guy who posts a 70, is huge! mid-80’s means ur a solid starter in the nfl. 70 means u suck and ur either a backup or outta the league. jc’s 6-to-4 td/int ratio is a big difference from say, 4-to-6. it’s the difference between being 4-2 and 2-4. that’s why it’s a big deal.

  51. priesttj Says:

    What Romo said about orton I wouldn’t make that trade because they’ll want to fleece us why should they help us beat them they would be a laughingstock? IMO if they say they’ll tarde him I would be very suspicious!!

  52. neilb Says:

    Ted….

    It will be Charlie Frye or Edwards.Someone who was with the team in the pre-season.

  53. rob_raider Says:

    priest–we do have the bye week. that means a guy has a solid 3 weeks to get ready for denver. boller is very likely for kc. but if u read the transcript from hue’s interview today, he wouldn’t even commit to that. it sounded very much like he was trying to get a guy now and get him ready. hue takes chances. he wants to win. he gambles like al. if he gets a guy, he may teach him everything he can and put him in the lineup. like he said today, it’s about getting wins. right now.

  54. rob_raider Says:

    if we go w/ boller, i really couldn’t carte less who they bring in as the backup. might as well go w/ pryor. frye, etc. all suck.

  55. nutso01 Says:

    To: Otis60

    I was referring to the comment on the Orton trade

  56. lefty12 Says:

    Rob,he has to get someone now and he has to try and get him up to speed as soon as possible.He essentially has no back-up at the present.While Pryor may be the future,he is in no way capable of leading this team right now if Boller were to go down.

  57. Otis60 Says:

    Nutso01, I was just repeating what I read on Cork’s Tweeter account. I was not trying to stir the pot.

  58. BigTed707 Says:

    # rob_raider Says:
    October 18th, 2011 at 1:17 am

    if we go w/ boller, i really couldn’t carte less who they bring in as the backup. might as well go w/ pryor. frye, etc. all suck.

    *************

    It’s a sh!tty situation, no doubt. Nobody thought J-Camp could win here, nobody thinks Boller can win here.

    But this is a good team – this team could probably win with JRuss.

  59. priesttj Says:

    Rob_Raider I saw the presser live he was definitive that Boller was the starter and said he will play well but longterm he added they needed a QB for down the road. Go to the website and watch it.

    Hue knows Boller well and while he’s not a longterm starter Hue said if I weren’t comfortable with him he wouldn’t be here. Longterm yeah we need a guy but no one can run this offense in 3weeks better than Boller I don’t care who it is unless he knows this system well. 5-6 weeks you might be right but 3weeks is really really pushing it. It’s just way too much information.

  60. priesttj Says:

    gotta get some sleep Adios!!

  61. BigTed707 Says:

    Boller is the starter. Hue doesn’t have to tell KC that today tho’.

  62. rob_raider Says:

    i guess we’ll see. as for the backup to boller, if we go that way, i just mean it’s not a great group. bowman, collins, etc? ugh.

  63. BigTed707 Says:

    Lates BHP!

  64. Otis60 Says:

    If Bush and DMAC can run like gangbusters against KC then we could win with anyone as QB. Let’s just hope our running game makes who is starting at QB unimportant. I’m still worried about long term even though BigTed is right about one week at a time.

  65. BigTed707 Says:

    I don’t trust Boller, but I do trust Hue, and “CAL” is Hue’s guy.

    Go Raiders!

    Night Folks!

  66. rob_raider Says:

    raiders 20
    chiefs 13

  67. GG Says:

    If I’m going to speculate on this…

    Maybe it is true the Raiders are going to trade with the Bears for Cutler.

    Bears are in need of a safety, maybe Branch gets traded + say Bush + say a future draft pick, for Cutler. Hence, bringing in Ndukwe?

    How’s that for a wild baseless speculation?
    Any takers?

  68. rob_raider Says:

    or mitchell–the bears wanted mitchell

  69. GG Says:

    It could just be something like Giordano is released to activate Pryor. And they also decided Boyd wasn’t performing well, and decided to ‘upgrade’ by signing Ndukwe. However, apparently Joe Porter cleared out his locker, got told he will be cut to activate Pryor. So it wouldn’t make sense to cut two safeties to replace them with one safety (ndukwe) if Porter already got cut for Pryor.

    Obviously I dunno, just trying to sleuth.

  70. GG Says:

    rob_raider Says:
    October 18th, 2011 at 2:30 am

    or mitchell–the bears wanted mitchell

    —-

    Good deduction! How about that hey! Any takers?

  71. GG Says:

    Time to check Mike Mitchell’s twitter???

  72. YoungAmerican Says:

    Ron Parker is still on the roster. He’ll almost certainly be the one who gets released for Ndukwe.

  73. GG Says:

    Dunno Mitchell’s twitter, but when i did a search, there’s already rumors flying of Mitchell+Bush for Palmer, or Branch+Bush being traded and Mitchell to take Branch’s spot, etc.

  74. GG Says:

    Bears also in need of a WR.
    So maybe Murphy+Bush+Branch/Mitchell for Cutler
    ??
    Or it’s for Palmer.

  75. rob_raider Says:

    obviously there’s been no mention of cutler from anyone but u. and i don’t think tyvon is going anywhere. boyd could be cut for ndukwe. or i guess a package of bush/mitchell/murphy and a conditional pick of some sort could do the trick for palmer. and yes, he would be worth it. murphy is well down the depth chart but has some cache. bush is a nice back but really hasn’t done much for us. it would open chances for taiwan and even reece when he’s back. and we could resign bennett. mitchell is good but huff and tyvon are better.

  76. rob_raider Says:

    i feel like it Christmas and santa hue is gonna surprise me in the morning w/ a brand new quarterback of my very own!

  77. GG Says:

    Someone mentioned it last night, said “sshh expect a trade with a dark horse candidate, who has a big arm and plays behind a terrible OL”.

    Posted a few threads back, last night.

  78. GG Says:

    Here….

    saladfingerz Says:
    October 17th, 2011 at 8:52 am

    shhhhhh.
    just a word out to my raidernation brothers…
    dark horse qb trade possibly in the works.

    someone you would not expect, currently plays behind a horrible oline, has a rifle for an arm.
    all i can say at this point…would be the trade would involve multiple players, teams and picks.

    —-

    J Hill Says:
    October 17th, 2011 at 8:54 am

    someone you would not expect, currently plays behind a horrible oline, has a rifle for an arm.

    ——————————————————-

    We are not bringing that prima dona Cutler to Oakland.

  79. edward teach Says:

    I’d love to see Carson Palmer in Silver and Black.

    Ask yourselves this, though; if you’re running the Bengals and you’re 4-2, would you trade him to another AFC team that’s also 4-2 if you thought it could make that team better?

  80. GG Says:

    Then I posted…

    GG Says:
    October 17th, 2011 at 8:56 am

    Cutler would be plausible only because he’s currently running a Martz Air Coryell system and can therefore pick up Saunders Air Coryell playbook up.

  81. rob_raider Says:

    well, it would be shocking, since the bears are 3-3 and still hoping for the playoffs, even though they suck. and they have 2 unknowns behind him. it would only happen if cutler somehow really got under love’s skin, which is entirely possible.

    man, it is scary to think what he could do w/ a good line and our wr’s. jeff george 2012. mm. maybe not.

  82. YoungAmerican Says:

    Cutler is not getting traded in any scenario.

  83. edward teach Says:

    We have to start thinking about the other potential trade partners when talking about picking up a QB.

    Sure, the Bears need a receiver. They may even need a safety.

    Their biggest need is on the offensive line, however. They allow Cutler to get hit more than any other QB in the league.

    So, you’re the Bears. You trade Jay Cutler to the Raiders for a WR and a safety, and maybe a draft pick or three.

    Who plays QB for you? Would he do any better than Cutler with the current O-line?

  84. rob_raider Says:

    well, it won’t happen. their backups are caleb hanie and nathan enderle. and they’re 3-3. about a 1% chance.

  85. GG Says:

    Apparently, Caleb Hanie has strong supporters inside the organization, and that Enderle guy Martz likes a lot.

  86. rob_raider Says:

    orton 50%
    palmer 40%
    favre 20%
    mcnabb 20%

  87. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    The Donkeys traded Brandon Lloyd to the Rams, yesterday. May be in trading mood, let’s see!

  88. rob_raider Says:

    okay gg, i’m convinced

    cutler 90%!!!!!

  89. rob_raider Says:

    cutler is a lot like george. great talent. gets traded for. loses. rubs people the wrong way. traded away. never seems like his stats are as bad as his rep.

  90. GG Says:

    If we do go after Palmer or Cutler, we’ll be stuck with them for 3+ years and I’d personally rather see what Pryor can offer as a ‘franchise QB’ in 1-2 years.

  91. rob_raider Says:

    george career rating 80.4
    cutler career rating 84.6

  92. rob_raider Says:

    pryor will take time. up to 3 years of patience. although according to his texts to hue, he’s ready now!

  93. GG Says:

    rob_raider Says:
    October 18th, 2011 at 3:15 am

    okay gg, i’m convinced

    cutler 90%!!!!!

    —-

    that’s game of you! I dunno, I’m merely wildly speculating based on a couple of tidbits (the saladfingerz post + my point about air coryell system + ndukwe signing making no sense on its own).

    and i know we need to forge on with a shot at the playoffs, but deep down my curiosity for pryor runs high.

  94. GG Says:

    rob_raider Says:
    October 18th, 2011 at 3:19 am

    pryor will take time. up to 3 years of patience. although according to his texts to hue, he’s ready now!

    —-

    haha, i havent seen them. gotta like the attitude i guess. if for some reason none of these trades happen, i hope pryor really comes on and shows his better than boller that hue “living on the edge” jackson takes a punt on it in a couple weeks (if boller fails miserably next week).

  95. rob_raider Says:

    if we stick w/ boller/pryor, yeah it will be about 2 quarters till we start our own version of the tebow chant.

  96. GG Says:

    I guess if we HAD TO trade, Bush, Murphy are expendable, tho Murphy just coming back from injury in a couple weeks match-fitness could be needed and makes plays. Look at Ford two weeks ago when he returned from injury, he looked sloppy, but last week he was great. I guess as far as safeties go, we could do with Giordano and Boyd as well, dont think we can lose Branch or Huff tho, and Hue loves Branch. Remember him saying how he thinks he’s one of the best players in the league. Mitchell is one of my personal favorites, would be sad to trade him, especially as he never got a real shot at being an incumbent starter.

  97. GG Says:

    rob_raider Says:
    October 18th, 2011 at 3:24 am

    if we stick w/ boller/pryor, yeah it will be about 2 quarters till we start our own version of the tebow chant.

    lol, i think that’s a good chance of happening. it was already starting up just last week all those wildly inaccurate med-deep passes.

  98. ddwight Says:

    546.beach Says:
    October 17th, 2011 at 9:55 pm
    Why the love for Carson Palmer? The guy is a statue and would break down as fast as JaGlass Campbell.

    I totally agree with this, we might as well stay with Boller, because having the Sunday ticket has revealed to me that Palmer would be a drastic mistake…believe me ever since he came back from that injury against the Steelers in the playoffs some years back he is not the same QB…he’s trigger shy and inaccurate as well…and is not really interested in playing or taking another shot light that on his knee, and palmer is a statue, he cant get away from the rush. He plays like a scared QB.

  99. GG Says:

    I’ll give you another wild speculation…

    saladfingerz said could involve multiple teams.

    how about Murphy to Broncos, to play with Tebow, who played together at the Gators, and Orton back to Bears. in amongst whatever else gets traded (bush/mitchell/etc)

  100. rob_raider Says:

    i say we trade for manning. let boller get us to the last 2 weeks, an peyton comes in and takes all the way. sound reasonable?

  101. edward teach Says:

    If we are going to get anyone that could start, I would guess McNabb. Don’t think it would be a good fit because he’s not even a shadow of what he used to be, but Minnesota is already talking about replacing him with Ponder. The Vikings are an NFC team so don’t care if we get better or not and aren’t making the playoffs anyway.

  102. GG Says:

    McNabb refused to be traded to us remember, took Redskins instead, what caused Campbell to come here. I’d turn my back on him purely for this reason, plus his ability is in decline.

  103. rob_raider Says:

    yeah mcnabb isn’t what he was. but his rating this year is 82.9 and his career is 85.6. i think the team just sucks and they’re deciding to go w/ the future. he would come cheap. and he might have the combination of experience/swagger/arm that would fit in real well.

  104. rob_raider Says:

    still like orton. i think he’s decent and it’s likely the broncos want him gone. a distraction to tebow.

  105. GG Says:

    One things for certain, we need a proven vet. Cant sneeze at Cutler, Palmer, Favre, McNabb. ANother reason why not McNabb, he’s a west coast pupil. We run Coryell. This wouldn’t suit McNabb or Favre, tho Favre is incredibly able to learn whole playbooks in a couple weeks. Cutler under Martz makes sense, tho highly unlikely such a mega trade between 3 teams would happen. Probably easier to just try McNabb, cost less and we dont have to lose Murphy, Mitchell, etc.

  106. GG Says:

    if we have to roll with Boller, here’s hoping a lot of reps this week means he can perform at least up to par with how Campbell has been playing (average).

  107. rob_raider Says:

    here’s hoping he doesn’t throw more than 2 picks and throws for at least 150 yards and 1 td. yes folks, that will be a good game for him. ugh. not looking forward to this sunday’s game.

  108. rob_raider Says:

    lots of screens and short little dumpoffs that he still misses by 5 yards. lots of bad body language by the wr’s, like “seriously?”. and lots of groaning in the stands and at home. they tried to tell the world in baltimore and in st. louis, but we didn’t listen. yes, hue i know u know him. and he has some talent. but really, this won’t end very well.

  109. GG Says:

    Might have to be a lot of short passing, he seemed capable (the swing pass to ford, the slants to dhb)

  110. edward teach Says:

    102.GG Says:
    October 18th, 2011 at 3:39 am
    McNabb refused to be traded to us remember, took Redskins instead, what caused Campbell to come here. I’d turn my back on him purely for this reason, plus his ability is in decline.

    ********************************************************

    While I agree with you that McNabb isn’t the player he used to be, I wouldn’t turn my back on him because he didn’t want to be here two years ago.

    We’re a vastly different team than we were then, and have a legitimate shot at the playoffs. If you think someone may be able to help you do that, you don’t care about two years ago.

  111. edward teach Says:

    One added benefit to McNabb’s being here; he currently plays in the NFC North.

    We have Detroit, Minnesota and Green Bay on the schedule this year. He knows those teams better than anyone else on our roster right now.

  112. edward teach Says:

    We also play the Bears. Forgot about that one.

  113. rob_raider Says:

    GG Says:
    October 18th, 2011 at 4:06 am
    Might have to be a lot of short passing, he seemed capable (the swing pass to ford, the slants to dhb)

    ****************

    yeah the old “we have a bad qb so we’re gonna throw stuff he can hopefully complete” offense. seen it far too often in years past. at least campbell could make all the throws. boller is just so inaccurate, every 5 yards he throws downfield increases his pick % like 10%.

  114. rob_raider Says:

    please hue. surprise me today. please. please.

  115. GG Says:

    Edward Teach…

    you’re right. I guess it’s smart to not turn your back. Especially as we need help there. And you make some good new points about the NFC North schedule that he would help us game-plan against. In the end, I guess he’d probably be the ‘best’, as he doesnt have a big salary, he wont cost us dearly in terms of draft picks, wont have to lose good players like Mitchell/Bush/Murphy.

    rob-raider…
    yeah, it’s gonna be a hairy adventure for the team and us fans versus the Chiefs if Boller starts. The head obviously cringes knowing what Boller is like.

  116. rob_raider Says:

    well, the mystery will be over today. if the trade deadline passes, that means it’s only free agents, and w/o garrard, that leaves favre and a bunch guys who will carry a clipboard. it’s Christmas morning. did santa hue bring us a new toy? or will we end up w/ brown socks from grandma.

  117. edward teach Says:

    I’m thinking brown socks from grandma, Rob.

    We can hope though, right?

  118. GG Says:

    brown socks from grandma

  119. GG Says:

    Lol, just to keep stirring the Cutler thing.

    PFT, Matt Forte wants a trade, and two teams have discussed it. So…

    Broncos acquire: Forte, Murphy
    Bears acquire: Bush, Mitchell, Orton
    Raiders acquire: Cutler

    lol, sorry just had to keep speculating.

  120. Just Fire Baby Says:

    You guys are hilarious with the Cutler talk.

    The Bears gave up two 1’s, Kyle Orton and others for him.

    Two years later, he took them to the NFC championship game.

    The asking price for Cutler, would be higher than what the Bears paid for him, being how well he has played with that disaster of an O-line in front of him.

    Mike Bush and Louis Murphy, lol.

    That duo probably wouldn’t even get us Kyle Orton or Donovan McNabb. Teams would rather just get a 3rd round pick than those two.

    Players are valued MUCH, MUCH lower than draft picks these days.

    The NFL’s leading WR in yardage last year was just dumped for a 6th rounder. Lou Murphy couldn’t even get us a conditional 7th rounder right now. Bush would probably go for a 4th or 5th rounder at best.

  121. dondiraider Says:

    Maybe were shipping a safety to the bengals for Palmer since we dont have many draft picks?

  122. HitManMorris Says:

    If we are trading anything for Palmer, how about one of the under used but talented receivers on the roster? Let Schillens and maybe Murphy or Hagan go?

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