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Report: Raiders close to getting Palmer

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Tuesday, October 18th, 2011 at 7:17 am in Oakland Raiders.

The Raiders are nearing agreement on a deal to acquire Carson Palmer from the Cincinnati Bengals in exchange for a first-round draft pick and a conditional draft pick, according to Jay Glazer of Fox Sports.

Palmer refused to play with the Bengals this season, sitting out rather than collect $11.5 million in salary. Jackson has a relationship with Palmer in that he was a wide receivers coach in Cincinnati the last time the Bengals went to the playoffs. The Raiders would be on the hook for $7.44 of Palmer’s remaining salary, considerably more than the $4.1 million Jason Campbell will make over the entire season.

The Twitter update doesn’t say if the first-round pick is from the 2012 draft. The Raiders have dealt away much of that draft, although they are due compensatory picks for lost free agents and can still trade existing players for more draft picks.

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  • CanuckRaider

    Now we have a QB who can air it out when the run game falters. I thought Soup was playing pretty well but he had yet to show that he could take over a game when DMac or Bush were kept in check. We’ll be seeing the long ball completed now.

  • RaiderAD

    This is INSANE!!!!
    Giving up WAY TOO MUCH!!!!

    Palmer was so severely outplayed by rookie Mark Sanchez at home in the post-season two years ago it was obvious he doesn’t have it anymore.

    HUE IS SUCH A ROOKIE. TOTAL PANIC BUYING UNDERWAY IN OAKLAND!!!

  • Sbforever

    Loved Campbell. But any pass over 20 yards was basically a Hail Mary. Given the speed we have Campbell was never going be able to take advantage. He got lucky on the Denarius TD against Buffalo but name another time he hit one of our wideouts on a deep route. Once Palmer gets the timing down a whole new dimension to our offense becomes available. With the real possibility of a deep threat the safeties will have to drop back which just gives DMAC more open space. I hate to lose draft picks but this can really take our offense to a whole new level.

    Kyle, welcome back to being one of the top back-up QBs in the league.

    Forget the picks for now. Let’s get excited!!!

  • http://www.raidernationpodcast.com/ r8eray

    Too many peeps I see on here for the 1st time having nothin but negative things to say about this trade???

    Keep on reading and stop blogging……go cry to your momma’s!!!!

    #CODE BLACK

  • Raiderbuck

    We did pay too much for him, but if he pans out this could be awesome!! Then we won’t be saying we paid too much for him. Just needs to see how it plays out!

  • GoRaider

    Great move.
    BTW how the fck do u refresh page with a iPhone?
    Please enlighten

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    What becomes of Pryor? Palmer is the guy for 6 years at least.

    Cut boller! What good is a backup that can’t, well backup

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    This is by far the worst move of the 2011 season.

    1.) carson is a quitter. he bailed on his team in cinci and isnt a leader. Carson is a front runner, that is fine when everything goes his way, but dont look for him to be able to dig deep when the going gets rough. when the bungles needed him he folded up his tent, mailed in the box top, and left his team hanging.

    2.) we are mortgaging the future against this flop of a qb, that hasnt done anything of note, and is already on the decline in his career.

    3.) This seems reactionary, and not proactive. Carson isnt good enough to come in and take us to the super bowl this year. This team isnt super bowl ready quiet yet. So how does bringing him in and giving up draft picks make us better moving forward?

    bad move, we should hand the keys to boller, and compete the best we can prepping for next year.

    THIS SUCKS

  • http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXj7I1RzLSE&feature=related exlaraiderseasonticketholder

    Carson turns 32 in December so stop trying to make him old. Only 2 years older than Campbell.

  • Lowdown_in_Beijing

    Wow, MR is busting his @zz making up new names to post his complaints today….

  • Silverandblack666

    Your WRONG Mystic1

    This is a great move your upset because of your man crush on JC.

    What happened to your trust in Hue Jack?

    I thought you were in lock step with Hue Jack?

  • CanuckRaider

    Common sense says Boller will start against KC, giving Palmer almost three weeks of practice time before starting. He’ll need time to get his timing down with the receivers.

  • Dakota

    CJ Legend 34 Says:
    October 18th, 2011 at 8:42 am
    Dakota what is Palmers class????

    Last time I saw him play he missed soem open targets and oh yeah…quit on his team!!!!

    He wanted Ocho to stay – managment did it.
    He wanted TO – management got him.

    So what does he do? Demand a trade and quit.

    Palmer’s play has not been good since he blew out his knee. Point blank! Palmer should get mad at Palmer. His deep ball use to money after his knee it was average.

    No way I give up a first for this guy when we don’t even have a first.
    ++++++++++++++++++++

    The guy is already in Oakland taking his physical. Do you doubt his want to play? He spend 9 years in NFL hell with the Bungholes and wanted out after his 58th teammate was convicted! Not too many people outside of Mike Brown were blaming Palmer for demanding a trade. Palmer threw 47 TDs the last two seasons and made 32 starts. Now his health is an issue? I don’t think so.

    Is he as good as he was before the injury? No. Is he better than any QB we have had since Gannon? by far. I don’t think he is an elite top 5 qb, but he is still in the class right below that. Certainly a QB who is capeable of winning a Super Bowl. Campbell was not that type of QB.

    Besides, we are a better team and those first rounders are now going to be pick in the mid 20s or later. Not like we gave them 2 top ten first rounders, and our teams is young across the board.

    Is it a gamble? Certainly. But a good gamble. If Palmer can give us a legit passing game we can beat anyone.

  • CanuckRaider

    #313: Amen Dakota.

  • ghostraiders

    I knew morons would start criticizing trade as soon as they could… fcuken idiots… atleast wait to see how good he is with Raiders. . A bunch of MRs..make me sick.m

  • ravenaider

    C’mon RAIDER NATION! What is not to like about this trade? Hue must have been on the phone all night trying to work this deal! Huge upgrade at the QB position.

    I can’t understand some of you.REAL RAIDER fans love this deal.Kyle Boller is not the answer to lead us where we need to go this year(deep into the playoffs).Some of you were crying about Soup,now we get a top notch QB and you are STILL CRYING!!!!! Then some idiot is talking abt Clausen…I wanted the Gunslinger-wouldda been cheaper but I will definately take this.

    Palmer knows Hue’s system so the playbook shouldn’t be a problem to digest.I was all sad yesterday.Thinking about making the trip to Oakland for the Denver game to see freaking Boller run the offense.I hope Carson starts that Denver game!!!! WOO HOOO!!!

  • http://www.blogcdn.com/www.fanhouse.com/media/2008/04/desmond-howard-425-sm.jpg Bo Schembechler Jackson

    Funny, it will take until 2014 to see the first non-Al draft…plus there is now a wage scale to prevent jaflushing 40 mil on a rook…

  • memo

    RaiderAD Says:
    October 18th, 2011 at 8:44 am
    This is INSANE!!!!
    Giving up WAY TOO MUCH!!!!

    Palmer was so severely outplayed by rookie Mark Sanchez at home in the post-season two years ago it was obvious he doesn’t have it anymore.
    _____________________________________________________

    Yea, but Carson’s wife is pretty hot…

  • RaiderAD

    ARE YOU PEOPLE NUTS?????

    Do you really want to go into next year’s draft with nothing until round 5? How do you expect to improve the team?

    Palmer is shot. Finished. Haven’t you been watching? Did you see that playoff game AT HOME two years ago? I wouldn’t give up one number one for this guy – nevermind two.

    The draft is the lifeblood of these teams. We are already down a draft after giving up picks for 22, 72, etc…

    DON’T DO THIS HUE!!!

  • memo

    Point taken RaiderAD, however, Carson’s wife is pretty hot

  • RaiderAD

    not as hot as Boller’s!!!!

  • zopi

    OK, If it’s Palmer, the OLine has to turn into a qb protecting machine. Palmer has always had trouble staying up in the pocket, he’ll be a standing target, at least with Campbell he had some speed to get out, although you’d never knew if Campbell put the ball in the ground.

    After watching Leinart for many years in SoCal, I’m having trouble believing that Casell, Sanchez, and Palmer are better than him. This one I will never understand.

  • LTR

    Just heard the 2013 pick becomes a 1 if we win a playoff game this year

  • Sbforever

    Common sense says Boller will start against KC, giving Palmer almost three weeks of practice time before starting. He’ll need time to get his timing down with the receivers.
    ++++++++++++++++++++

    The good news is Carson will have a full preseason to get ready given the next 3 weeks we play the Chiefs, bye and the Donkeys. He should be ready for prime time when we play the Bolts on Thursday night.

  • Chris in NY

    RaiderAD Says:
    October 18th, 2011 at 8:58 am
    ARE YOU PEOPLE NUTS?????

    Do you really want to go into next year’s draft with nothing until round 5? How do you expect to improve the team?

    Palmer is shot. Finished. Haven’t you been watching? Did you see that playoff game AT HOME two years ago? I wouldn’t give up one number one for this guy – nevermind two.

    The draft is the lifeblood of these teams. We are already down a draft after giving up picks for 22, 72, etc…

    DON’T DO THIS HUE!!!

    ———————

    I recall the Bungles kicker missing a half-dozen chip shots in that one. This Raiders team is more talented than that Bungles team. We haven’t been in the playoffs in nearly 10 years and have had awful QB play for most of that stretch.

  • RaiderAD

    let’s get real – this deal was there for Al (or anyone else) to make all summer

    Al chose not to do it

    he knew the price was too steep

    Hue is a freaking rookie getting his clock cleaned

    BIG MISTAKE

  • Hagar the Horrible

    Hey you guys, we’re “actually-only” giving up an early (2nd round pick)!

    Think about it. If we can get some decent play out of him and with the weapons we have on this team and the remaining schedule, which isn’t bad, then we should make the playoffs.

    If we go deep into the playoffs, which I think we can, then our first round pick next year is 25th thru 32nd.

    That’s right…25th thru 32nd ( = ) high second round

    It’s usually the top ten to fifteen players that are potential team changers or improvers, after that the remaining first rounders are actually “early 2nd” rounders.

    In 2013, the same senario transpires, our first round pick will actually be a late first…maybe 27th thru
    32nd…so, what’s all the fuss?

    We had to pull the trigger, we had to go for it as not too many opportunities present themselves.

    Think positive Raiders fans…get ready for the ride pass the summit and on to the top of the mountain, where we’ll look down on the valley…at the milk and honey and the grapes on the vineyards. It’s all good.

  • SR Raider

    Two weeks ago I posted that the Raiders are a QB and an LB away from being legit SB contenders. Now, Al has passed, and both of these positions have been filled. Wow

  • SR Raider

    Comparing 2010 stats, Palmer throws more deep balls and more INT’s. Overall rating is about the same

    Player Cmp/Att Pct Yds YPA TD IN 20+ Rate TD/A IN/A
    Palmer 362/586 61.8% 3970 6.8 26 20 45 82.4 4.4% 3.4%
    Soup 194/329 59.0% 2387 7.3 13 8 29 84.2 4.0% 2.4%

  • SeahawkFan

    Wow… so you ‘steal’ Aaron Curry…(oh and did we say “thank you”??) for next years 7th round pick.. and now you give up next years first round (and perhaps the 2013 1st rounder as well).. for a 31 year old mediocre QB who hasn’t played in a year??

    BWAAAHAAAHAAHAAAHAAHAAHAAHAAAHAAHAAAHAAHAAAHAAAA!!!!!

    I love watching The Raiders implode.

    You honestly think Palmer will take this team to the SB?? Put the pipe down and slowly back away. You are waaaay too high.

  • freezetag168

    There’s actually such thing as Seahawk fans?

    Not sure what conditions the conditional pick in 2013 is for that 1st rounder, but if that includes a trip to this years AFC Championship or even higher to the Super Bowl, then giving up 2-1st rounder isn’t such a bad thing.

    Look, Tampa Bay gave up 2-1st and 2-2nds, for OUR Super Bowl. They didn’t seem to mind. Too bad we didn’t pick 1st and 2nd round caliber players with those picks other than Nnamdi.

  • Raiderjambo

    Classic, a s***hawk fan on a RAIDERS BLOG telling us about THE RAIDERS imploding. Ever heard of cable,gallery and miller you a**hole. This pick up of Palmer reminds me of the trades Al worked in the 70′s,80′s, and even the 90′s. “JUST WIN NOW BABY”!

  • SeahawkFan

    Yeah youg guys sure looked crisp yesterday. Yep, I watched AC do nothing except get a 15 yard penalty. Oh and your new hero Palmer? Still think he was worth two first rounders? Win Now? Hardly.. and with no draft picks for the next two years, winning this decade will be tough!

    BWAAAHAAAHAAAHAAAHAAAHAAAHAAAHAAAAA!!!

    I told you AC was a bust and now you get to see it for yourselves. I told you that Palmer wasn’t worth two first rounders (he isn’t worth anything).. and now you get to see that as well.

    See, you have to acutally understand football to have been able to see that these two recent moves by your front office didn’t help you JUST WIN NOW BABY.. all they did was ensure you won’t win for many years to come. And we in Seattle still thank you for ‘stealing’ Aaron Curry from us!!!

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