Report: Raiders close to getting Palmer
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Tuesday, October 18th, 2011 at 7:17 am in Oakland Raiders.
The Raiders are nearing agreement on a deal to acquire Carson Palmer from the Cincinnati Bengals in exchange for a first-round draft pick and a conditional draft pick, according to Jay Glazer of Fox Sports.
Palmer refused to play with the Bengals this season, sitting out rather than collect $11.5 million in salary. Jackson has a relationship with Palmer in that he was a wide receivers coach in Cincinnati the last time the Bengals went to the playoffs. The Raiders would be on the hook for $7.44 of Palmer’s remaining salary, considerably more than the $4.1 million Jason Campbell will make over the entire season.
The Twitter update doesn’t say if the first-round pick is from the 2012 draft. The Raiders have dealt away much of that draft, although they are due compensatory picks for lost free agents and can still trade existing players for more draft picks.
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October 18th, 2011 at 7:18 am
Send Seymour to Cinn
Fk Seymour!
October 18th, 2011 at 7:19 am
The end.
Next thread pls
October 18th, 2011 at 7:19 am
I AM SO FKN PUMPED RIGHT NOW! THIS BETTER HAPPEN OR I MIGHT HYBERNATE FOR THE REST OF THE FOOTBALL SEASON!
October 18th, 2011 at 7:20 am
Can someone tell me at what time the trade window actually closes today.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:21 am
I’m with you Dakota. Can you imagine how good Palmer will be in this offense, with unselfish wide receivers and the top rushing attack in football?! Geeked doesn’t even describe it.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:22 am
WHEN IS THE DEADLINE ANYWAY,WHAT TIME ?
October 18th, 2011 at 7:22 am
4pm eastern
October 18th, 2011 at 7:22 am
GOOD ? NEILB….
October 18th, 2011 at 7:23 am
About what I expected to see.
Nice going Hue/Amy/Mark/John Hererra
October 18th, 2011 at 7:23 am
I’m having a hard time deciding if this would be a good deal or not.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:23 am
Is it one this afternoon PST?
October 18th, 2011 at 7:23 am
OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!! DONE DEAL!!!! DONE DEAL!!!!
DONE DEAL!!!!!
CARSON PALMER = OAKLAND RAIDERS QB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Holy Toledo!!!!
Holy Toledo!!!!
October 18th, 2011 at 7:23 am
If Palmer can return to his form before his knee got mangled we could be looking at a SB appearance.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:24 am
We will have time to negotiate the contract after the trade is consumated. Nothing will be final until Palmer undergoes a physical, the trade just has to be filed with league offices by 4pm easter.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:24 am
Casrolina who did we send to Cinn?
October 18th, 2011 at 7:24 am
Hwn, good morning!
See you Sunday
October 18th, 2011 at 7:24 am
OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WE HAVE CARSON EFFING PALMER!!!!!!!!!!
HOLY TOLEDO!!!!!!!!!!
DREAMS COME TRUE!!!!
WOW!!!
WOW!!!
WE WE WE HAVE CARSON PALMER!!!!
CARSON PALMER!!!
October 18th, 2011 at 7:25 am
Carson fu@king Palmer!!!! Just win Baby
October 18th, 2011 at 7:25 am
Gave up 1st Round in 2012 and a sliding pick in 2013 that could end up being another #1
October 18th, 2011 at 7:25 am
Big Big mistake. Palmer known to have periodic elbow problems. Better to give a late draft pick for Clausen who has a better upside. Little or no draft picks next year could kill us for the foreseeable future. I hope Mark will listen to someone with a management type football background before he lets Hue pull the trigger on this deal.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:26 am
WEEEEEEEEEEEEEE HAVE CARSON PALMER!
OK, I am a little pumped up. My 7 year old is running around screaming Carson Palmeeeeer!
October 18th, 2011 at 7:26 am
16.MistaBrown Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 7:24 am
Hwn, good morning!
See you Sunday
I look forward to that, MistaBrown! B talks about you all the time!
October 18th, 2011 at 7:27 am
Clausen?
October 18th, 2011 at 7:27 am
Rossee…I agree with you on that note, but it doesn’t state whether it was a 2012 first round pick or not…but still!
October 18th, 2011 at 7:27 am
Are we gonna have any draft picks left?
October 18th, 2011 at 7:28 am
The Raiders just made the best move possible… A legit QB!
October 18th, 2011 at 7:28 am
Clausen? He wouldnt even be better than Boller. You are out of your mind
October 18th, 2011 at 7:28 am
Dakota Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 10:03 am
“Raiders pushing Hard for Palmer”
ring ring
Mike Brown: Hello?
Hue: Coach Brown! Its Hue Jackson! How are you doing these days?
Brown: Pretty good, the team has been profitable.
Hue: Well that’s good to hear! Hey, I guess you probably heard that we lost Jason Campbell yesterday.
Brown: Is he that race car driver that died?
Hue: No no no, he is our quarter back!
Brown: Who’s quarterback?
Hue: The Raiders’ quarterback obviously.
Brown: The Raiders? I thought you were with the Ravens.
Hue: No, I am the head coach of the Raiders now.
Brown: Oh, I didn’t know that, well congratulations. Now what is it that you need?
Hue: Well, obviously we have an injured quarterback, and obviously you have a pretty good young quarterback now, and obviously you no longer need Carson Palmer, because obviously you are going in the right direction with Dalton, and we obviously could use a new quarterback now that Campbell is hurt, so I think we have an obvious win-win situation right in front of us. We’ll give you a first round pick for the rights to Carson Palmer. Obviously that will help your team and obviously us too!
Brown: Fuk Palmer. He can rot at home much like how Al let Marcus rot on the bench. Don’t fuk with us great owners! How is Al these days anyhow. Haven’t heard from him in a while.
Hue: Coach Brown, Al passed away a week ago.
Brown: Oh that is too bad, tell him I am sorry to hear that the next time you see him okay?
Hue: Huh, okay. (Click)
8 hours later:
ring ring
Brown: Hello?
Hue: Coach Brown, it is Hue Jackson again.
Brown: What do you want now?
Hue: Obviously I am desperate here man! Obviously Kyle Boller is a crap quarterback and if this team crashes right now I am going to get fired! Man, come on, I’ll give you a first and a fifth and I will paint your house and obviously I will not show the media those pictures of you and Chuck Bresnahan in that obviously non-hetero steam room wrestling match that I happened to photograph a few years back. Obviously.
Brown: Done deal. Do you want us to pay a portion of his 2011 salary too?
Hue: Naaaaw Mike, I think this is a fair deal as is.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:28 am
This reminds me of the Jeff George debacle.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:29 am
Maybe Palmer agreed to show up at Cinnci, allowing Brown to trade him without loosing face? They probably would not want him there sitting on the bench when they have already moved forword with Dalton.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:30 am
LA to TheBay Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 7:27 am
Are we gonna have any draft picks left?
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A weeksago I though we should just by pass the 2012 draft all togather..
October 18th, 2011 at 7:30 am
Two first round picks?
That would be bad.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:30 am
Al is gone but the Oakland Raider’s continue to bust a move.
R.I.P
October 18th, 2011 at 7:31 am
Got a bad feeling about this…giving up too much, too expensive, and he’s past his prime..also no mobility..gotta look at the long term picture
October 18th, 2011 at 7:31 am
Brown: Fuk Palmer. He can rot at home much like how Al let Marcus rot on the bench. Don’t fuk with us great owners!
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ROFLAMO
October 18th, 2011 at 7:31 am
Palmer has also said he is willing to restructure.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:31 am
Dakota, I havent talked to Hue this week so your post is 100% propaganda.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:31 am
MistaBrown Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 7:30 am
Al is gone but the Oakland Raider’s continue to bust a move.
R.I.P
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Coach Davis lives in the form of Coach Al Jackson…
October 18th, 2011 at 7:32 am
Palmer is sniffing a SB for the first time in his life. He must be on cloud 9
October 18th, 2011 at 7:33 am
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7118158/oakland-raiders-verge-getting-carson-palmer-cincinnati-bengals-sources-say
October 18th, 2011 at 7:33 am
What the f@ck are some of you tripping about ! If your concerned you know nothing about football… We have a young team with a legit qb to grow with… Fu@k the draft picks, half the time they don’t pan out anyways.. We have a proven qb!!!
October 18th, 2011 at 7:33 am
The 2013 1st would be conditional… if he takes us to the Super Bowl 2 firsts is WELL worth it IMO
October 18th, 2011 at 7:33 am
I sure hope the Raiders have Palmer checked out medically. Steep price, but they can convert some of the salary to signing bonus to get under the cap. Bye Jason, it was nice knowing you. By the way, aho Herrera is the cap master.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:33 am
Raiders will not be participating in the 2012 draft…
this has to be the first in history…
October 18th, 2011 at 7:34 am
Don’t tell me someone seriously suggested Clausen! The guy sucks!
October 18th, 2011 at 7:34 am
Season saved!
October 18th, 2011 at 7:35 am
Done deal.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:35 am
Yeah! Just heard on the Radio, a 1st rounder for Palmer!
October 18th, 2011 at 7:35 am
Being pretty much without a draft next year would not be a good thing, but this team is young everywhere but defensive tackle. Hopefully the ones we have will still be good for another year, and we can alway get one in free agency.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:35 am
Hue rolls the dice big time, I like it. Palmer may not be worth a 1 but, hey he knows what he is getting. Big time upgrade over Campbell.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:35 am
Nation…ARE WE SURE THIS IS WHAT WE WANT???
October 18th, 2011 at 7:36 am
MistaBrown Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 7:32 am
Palmer is sniffing a SB for the first time in his life. He must be on cloud 9
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Truth…This team will be over the top with Palmer no question…. Talk about making the throws….
October 18th, 2011 at 7:36 am
When is the last time palmer played?
October 18th, 2011 at 7:36 am
Hey, if the right conditions are there to make it 2 first rounders, then I am cool with that….as long as the condition is we win back to back SBs.
daaaayum.
I just wish it was a 1st and 3rd, or even a 1st and 2nd.
Oh well, we have our qb for the next five years.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:36 am
I’m pumped!!!
October 18th, 2011 at 7:37 am
Thec07 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 7:33 am
Raiders will not be participating in the 2012 draft…
this has to be the first in history
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We will have compensatory picks, but really this team is VERY young and growing. What are the glaring needs that we HAVE to address in the draft next year? Nothing that can’t be addressed in FA.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:37 am
Coach Al Jackson does it again…..
October 18th, 2011 at 7:37 am
This was years in the making people.
Carson, welcome to where you should have always been.
Go Raiders!!!
SC FIGHT ON!!!
It’s a WRAP for the league. There is not one defense that can stop us. Not one. Our games just got that much more exciting. We ARE the team to beat now. I can not wait to watch this offense in a couple of weeks, once its in gear. We are going to flying all over the field, with a laser arming hitting our wide open WR’s. I feel like a little kid, Christmas morning. Beautiful.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:37 am
I can’t speak for others, but for myself I say: al;sdfmnaosief;asieho;sinf;awiefjao;egipwiw
A real franchise QB. WOW.
HueJax has Olympic sized shotputs for b@lls
October 18th, 2011 at 7:39 am
Is Palmer worth a 1st Round pick??
October 18th, 2011 at 7:39 am
Raiders finally get a franchise QB… Hue is the fu@kn man!
October 18th, 2011 at 7:39 am
al davis lives on.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:40 am
I think Campbell bad week just got worse. The Raiders can’t be giving up so much for Palmer to have him back up Campbell when healthy.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:40 am
51.riderm Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 7:35 am
Nation…ARE WE SURE THIS IS WHAT WE WANT???
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Would you rather ride with Boller and try and draft a QB next year… Pryor will NEVER be an NFL QB, Hue knows this.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:40 am
I’m curious about this “conditional” first. I’d assume it has to do with stuff like playing time and maybe even winning a playoff game.
Let’s say Palmer doesn’t meet those benchmarks…what does it turn into?
October 18th, 2011 at 7:41 am
Palmer gives us a legit qb that can be effective right away. Obviously Hue,Amy, and mark Davis think this is a worthwile trade so i’m gonna embrace it
GO RAIDERS!
CODE BLACK!!
October 18th, 2011 at 7:41 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 7:37 am
I can’t speak for others, but for myself I say: al;sdfmnaosief;asieho;sinf;awiefjao;egipwiw
A real franchise QB. WOW.
HueJax has Olympic sized shotputs for b@lls
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I almost spit my coffee out all over my computer.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:42 am
Hopefully Carson been staying in shape.
This looks good on paper but means we have like 2 compensatory 3rd round picks and a 6th in 2012. Maybe a 5th? Not sure anymore.
And possibly no 2013 first.
This is seriously mortgaging the future.
Extremely risky move. Hue does like to live on the edge, but this is cliffhanger sh;t.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:42 am
As much as I would like to have Palmer, I really don’t think he is worth a first round pick, and certainly not NEXT years 1st round pick..we would essentially have no draft picks if that was the case, and everyone knows that your organization survives on low cost talent to replace aging veterants.
Personally, I would rather keep our first round picks, and roll with Boller the rest of the season..Carson may be 31 in earth rotations around the sun, but he is about 41 in actual body age..Dude has been beat up, ain’t played or practiced since last year, and I can PROMISE you would get hurt this year too, then were out a first round pick, and back to where we started from with Boller..
Give Boller a Shot, we don’t need to pay for Carson Palmers future (shoulder, knee, ankle, wrist, ribs, concussion) medical bills.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:42 am
People really need to realize what happened here. Hue Jackson was able to game Mike Brown into this. I’m giving Hue 100% credit for this. We are the real deal and we have a GENIUS at headcoach/GM. Al picked his successor. Its Hue Jackson.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:42 am
Cockran twitter reports ESPN says done deal.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:43 am
Bcz…Maybe. Ride out Boller for 6 weeks. Bring back Campbell, and keep the first round pick. Would that be so horrible?? I don’t know, just asking?
October 18th, 2011 at 7:43 am
60.riderm Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 7:39 am
Is Palmer worth a 1st Round pick??
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Certainly worth qone first rounder….two on the other hand….lets just wait and see what the deal really is I guess.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:43 am
To: riderm
Your question are embarrassing … Get your sh@t together
October 18th, 2011 at 7:43 am
LMAO!!!!
What makes you guys think Palmer is that great right now?
Do you recall his last year in Cincy? Was not that pretty.
Does it amaze anybody that Cincy is doing a whole heck of a lot better with Palmer gone, Chad gone, and TO.
I know we just lost Al in all but they are gambling alot of the future house. I don’t see this team being a SUperbowl team yet, so why gamble future draft picks now? How many do we have left for crying out loud.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:43 am
Riderm Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 7:39 am
Is Palmer worth a 1st Round pick??
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In one word, NO!
October 18th, 2011 at 7:43 am
LA agree…someone has to talk to Hue to calm him down..does’nt have to be done all in one year..gotta look long term.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:44 am
Common doubters, Palmer is our 1st next year and where have we been getting our best picks, mostly mid-round.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:45 am
74.nutso01 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 7:43 am
To: riderm
Your question are embarrassing … Get your sh@t together
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LMAO what was so embarassing about his question?
October 18th, 2011 at 7:45 am
Egad, Palmer hasn’t done jack since he hurt his leg. I had no problems with Campbell’s play or demeanor, certainly not enough to toss him away.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:45 am
This is seriously mortgaging the future.
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With the exception of Seymour and a couple other guys, this team is still really young but good enough to win with a franchise QB. The future is now is HueJax’s position it seems.
Look at it this way…we’ve already got most of our 2012 draft now: Barksdale, Jones (came out of the 2012 2nd rounder), Pryor (2012 3rd rounder), Campbell we’ve had (2012 4th rounder), Curry (2012 7th rounder) and now Palmer (2012 1st rounder)
None of those guys are old and 3 of them are rookies.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:46 am
Exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 7:44 am
Common doubters, Palmer is our 1st next year and where have we been getting our best picks, mostly mid-round.
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except we only have compensatory picks left
October 18th, 2011 at 7:46 am
Chad and TO were the problem. Ocho is a bust in NE, can’t separate. This is not a gamble but a proven stud at QB. I’m amped.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:46 am
Does it amaze anybody that Cincy is doing a whole heck of a lot better with Palmer gone, Chad gone, and TO.
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Palmer’s play picked up noticeably last year when Ochocinco and TO were both out of the lineup.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:47 am
If it was me I would keep my first round pick. Palmer is not worth a first round pick.
Plus, we have no idea if Pryor is our QB of the future. What do we do if Palmer is OK. Do we sign him agian next year and Campbell? How are we going to pay Palmer more than Campbell. Also, isnt Palmer a free agent next year?
October 18th, 2011 at 7:47 am
Two other observations:
1) Fare thee well, Jason Campbell. You seem like a solid guy and I hope you get a fair shake elsewhere
2) Pryor had better start learning the WR position.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:48 am
If I were Hue, I would trade Bush and get some picks. He will be a F/A next year.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:49 am
This is it gentlemen. All we needed was a good QB. Not solid (JC)…but GOOOOOOD. Playoffs baby!!
October 18th, 2011 at 7:49 am
If Palmer plays well it is a good deal. If not then it is a bad deal. Life is a gamble
October 18th, 2011 at 7:49 am
Hue is a gambling addict…and he’s throwing Campbell and Boller under the bus at the same time…don’t like this.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:49 am
I read that TO and Ocho being lazy and not running routes is why Palmer somewhat struggled in 2010. (26 TDs & 20 ints). He still completed 60+% of his passes the last two years and threw for 47 TDs.
This will really open up our offense.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:50 am
Palmer is definitely not worth a first rounder.
Also, Campbells career as a Raider is over.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:50 am
CJ…I’m with you.
Exlaraider…I agree with trading Bush. Very slow. And never seems to hit the hole hard. Reminds me of Lamont Jordan.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:50 am
Mike Lombardi answered my question on Twitter: 2012 1st rounder and 2013 2nd rounder that becomes a 1st if Palmer meets benchmarks. No word what those benchmarks are though
October 18th, 2011 at 7:51 am
DAMN,IMPROOVED THE OFFENSE AND DEFENSE IN 1 WEEK….
October 18th, 2011 at 7:51 am
the SD blog was sh!Tin themselves the last couple of days as they did not want us getting palmer….
He torched the fck out of them….
October 18th, 2011 at 7:51 am
Pretty cut throat and dangerous if you ask me. Palmer hasn’t been the same since he got hurt. I also don’t like his attitude at times.
But hey, roll the dice and see what happens.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:51 am
Looks like its done…according to Schefter
October 18th, 2011 at 7:51 am
Two first round picks is way, way too much. But if the Raiders win it doesn’t matter.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:51 am
85.CJ Legend 34 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 7:47 am
If it was me I would keep my first round pick. Palmer is not worth a first round pick.
Plus, we have no idea if Pryor is our QB of the future. What do we do if Palmer is OK. Do we sign him agian next year and Campbell? How are we going to pay Palmer more than Campbell. Also, isnt Palmer a free agent next year?
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No no no, this move ends Campbell in Oakland….obviously….as Jackson would say. And Palmer is under contract through 2014, so we don’t have to worry about him leaving like we had to worry about Seymour.
Campbell has never been in Palmer’s class, not even close.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:51 am
Campbell will probably be IR’ed now.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:52 am
Dakota Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 7:49 am
I read that TO and Ocho being lazy and not running routes is why Palmer somewhat struggled in 2010. (26 TDs & 20 ints). He still completed 60+% of his passes the last two years and threw for 47 TDs.
This will really open up our offense.
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the oline was garb…
October 18th, 2011 at 7:52 am
So we have used up our 1st, 3rd, and 4th round picks for 3 QBs doesn’t seem very smart to me.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:52 am
davidon Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 7:43 am
LA agree…someone has to talk to Hue to calm him down..does’nt have to be done all in one year..gotta look long term.
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F-that. Not Hue’s style. Not the Raiders’ style.
Besides, why not this year?
- Best RB rotation in the NFL (DMC, Bush, Taiwan): Check
- Copious speed and playmakers at WR (Ford, DHB, Moore, Murphy): Check
- Two solid posession WRs and TE (Schilens, Hagan, Boss): Check
- A matchup nightmare FB (Reece): Check
- An offensive line that’s playing as good as any in the league right now: Check
- The best kicker in the league: Check
- The best punter in the league: Check
- One of the most dangerous return men in the league (Ford, 4 TDs in 22 games): Check
- One of the best, deepest front 4s in the league: Check
- A young LB corps that features three former 1st rounders, including two Butkus Award winners: Check
- A young talented secondary with a great playmaking safety in Michael Huff: Check
- A coach who’s creativity is surpassed only by the brassness of his balls: Check.
Face it. We’re legit contenders right now. It’s time to go all-in. This is an all-in move if I’ve ever seen one.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:52 am
Last Sunday was Campbell’s last game as a Raider!!!
October 18th, 2011 at 7:53 am
As much as the possibility of having Palmer thrills me, mortgaging the future for him is extremely risky. We better pray that he doesn’t get hurt or we’re f@#$%&.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:53 am
Raiderkoolaid,
First to IR.
Then to unemployment line. Palmer sure as hell isn’t gonna rde the pine when Soup gets healthy.
Welcome Carson Palmer.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:53 am
Why I don’t like this trade:
1. He’s a primadonna, who doesn’t play because they’re unhappy when we struggle day to day?
2. Looked like schit last year, no mobility
3. Gave up WAY too much
Why I like this trade:
1. We’re not getting into the playoffs with Boller, with Carson we have a good shot to win it all if he looks like the Carson of old
2. Luck Jones or Barkley weren’t gna be available when we pick
3. We’re pretty stacked/young so we don’t need many upgrades
4. Al would do it
October 18th, 2011 at 7:54 am
Pryor damn well better be the future now.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:54 am
YoungAmerican Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 7:51 am
Two first round picks is way, way too much. But if the Raiders win it doesn’t matter.
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Super Bowl appearance would be nice and well worth it!!
October 18th, 2011 at 7:54 am
HueKnows Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 7:52 am
So we have used up our 1st, 3rd, and 4th round picks for 3 QBs doesn’t seem very smart to me.
**************plus another #1 really not smart
October 18th, 2011 at 7:54 am
No more excuses. Deep playoff run needs to happen.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:54 am
Oh Baby! It” ONNNN and Kracklacking NOW!
October 18th, 2011 at 7:55 am
Why I don’t like this trade:
1. He’s a primadonna, who doesn’t play because they’re unhappy when we struggle day to day?
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To be fair to Palmer, it went way beyond a tough season. Management had been consistently cheaping out for years while refusing to stop Ochocinco and TO from running their circus all over the team.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:55 am
finally a qb….
October 18th, 2011 at 7:55 am
Um, don’t want to point it out, but Palmer wasn’t exactly good these passed couple of years. Dude was never the same after that knee injury and that was a while back now.
IF it’s true the the 2013 conditional pick is either a 2nd or 1st rounder too, then oy. Jackson sure did learn at the knee of Al Davis.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:55 am
“Al DAVIS LIVES”
October 18th, 2011 at 7:55 am
YoungAmerican Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 7:54 am
Pryor damn well better be the future now.
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Looks like Pryor is a future WR or the QB in the waaayyyy future. Palmer’s under contract til…2013? 2014? Something like that.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:55 am
Wow, what a cut-throat business guys!
See ya Jason Campbell. Just like that, done as a Raider. Seemed like a quality guy. I feel bad for him. Lost his job to an injury. Certainly wasn’t the greatest QB, but certainly wasn’t horrible. Damn!
October 18th, 2011 at 7:56 am
I never wanted Carson, let alone give away 2 1st round draft picks for this int machine!
October 18th, 2011 at 7:56 am
103.HueKnows Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 7:52 am
So we have used up our 1st, 3rd, and 4th round picks for 3 QBs doesn’t seem very smart to me.
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Well, Pryor, if he turns into something, he might be worth some picks in the future (see Kolb and Schaub). if not, well, it was just Al’s last draft gamble. Campbell gave us a decent year and a half almost….not bad for the picks we gave up for him.
Palmer is a known commodity. This is not nearly the gamble spending the #1 overall pick was on Russell. Even if we just get above average QB play from Palmer our team will be much much better.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:56 am
In Hue I trust, in Hue the team trust, in Hue we all should trust! Living on the edge was always the Al Davis way…Boller better do one heck of a job this Sunday…because it will be Palmer time against Denver!
Whether I like it or not is irrelevant at this moment! I hope it pays out!
October 18th, 2011 at 7:56 am
So we get Carson, the Bengals get the #32 pick in the draft two years in a row from us.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:56 am
Best thing we can do is WIN and make these picks as low inthe round as possible…like pick #32.
Hue has got stones…no matter what you think,
you have to give him credit for going for it…
CODE BLACK
October 18th, 2011 at 7:56 am
Palmer looked like the real deal again last year after TO and OchoCinco got benched. Hopefully he likes the Raider wideouts as much as he seemed to like Jerome Simpson and Jordan Shipley.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:56 am
Palmer last year: 61.7% completion, 3970 yards, 26 TDs, 20 INTs behind a crap o-line and with two overrated crybabies as his top 2 targets.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:57 am
Al most definitely would not have used 3 draft picks in 1 draft to get 3 QBs
October 18th, 2011 at 7:57 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 7:55 am
YoungAmerican Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 7:54 am
Pryor damn well better be the future now.
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Looks like Pryor is a future WR or the QB in the waaayyyy future. Palmer’s under contract til…2013? 2014? Something like that.
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Truthfully, it might take until 2014 to turn him into a legit QB anyway.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:57 am
112.YoungAmerican Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 7:54 am
No more excuses. Deep playoff run needs to happen.
Agreed!
October 18th, 2011 at 7:57 am
Cincy let the inmates run the asylum. Don’t like that Carson bailed on them.
Not sayin he shoulda done it…. but I understand.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:57 am
Olinesux Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 7:55 am
finally a qb….
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Not just a QB…..
A franchise Quarterback to be precise!
October 18th, 2011 at 7:58 am
Bush has no trade value, especially with the trade deadline today. If a contender had a glaring need then maybe, but he is a free agent at the end of the year, and while I don’t want to loose him, he wouldn’t be worth what it would cost to franchise him, especially with the deals that Chris Johnson and Adrian Peterson got. We will probably have to pay McFadden that kind of money when his contract comes up.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:58 am
How in the world could any raider fan like this trade…Have any of you seen Palmer over the last few years…he is trigger shy, ever since his he blew his leg out against the steelers in the playoffs. This is no upgrade by any stretch of the imagination…he is not what he once was, he cannot escape a rush…he is a statue…you guys are nuts if you think Carson Palmer is going to deliver the Hardware we want. Hue will have to work a miracle with him…the 1st rounder is much too high…he gave up on the Bengals, and he is a disaster waiting to happen for us…..badddd newwws here!!!
October 18th, 2011 at 7:59 am
127.HueKnows Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 7:57 am
Al most definitely would not have used 3 draft picks in 1 draft to get 3 QBs
Well, in all fairness…he did sign off on 2 of them…
October 18th, 2011 at 7:59 am
YoungAmerican Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 7:56 am
Palmer looked like the real deal again last year after TO and OchoCinco got benched. Hopefully he likes the Raider wideouts as much as he seemed to like Jerome Simpson and Jordan Shipley.
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Exactly this. Cincinnati had become a circus with those two on the field.
HueJax knows Palmer about as well as anyone in the league not named Marvin Lewis. I’m gonna trust him on this one
October 18th, 2011 at 7:59 am
116.crister Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 7:55 am
Um, don’t want to point it out, but Palmer wasn’t exactly good these passed couple of years. Dude was never the same after that knee injury and that was a while back now.
IF it’s true the the 2013 conditional pick is either a 2nd or 1st rounder too, then oy. Jackson sure did learn at the knee of Al Davis.
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Really? 47 TDs and 7000+ yards passing wasn’t very good? When was the last time we had a QB capable of throwing 47 TDs in 2 years?
October 18th, 2011 at 8:00 am
AdamSchefter Adam Schefter
Carson Palmer to the Raiders now official. Compensation expected to be a 1 in 2012 and a conditional 1 in 2013.
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I hate hate hate it….!
October 18th, 2011 at 8:00 am
Season Passing Stats
GP CMP ATT CMP% YDS TD LNG INT FUM RAT
2004 13 263 432 60.9 2,897 18 76 18 2 77.3
2005 16 345 509 67.8 3,836 32 70 12 4 101.1
2006 16 324 520 62.3 4,035 28 74 13 13 93.9
2007 16 373 575 64.9 4,131 26 70 20 4 86.7
2008 4 75 129 58.1 731 36 4 2 69.0
2009 16 282 466 60.5 3,094 21 73 13 3 83.6
2010 16 362 586 61.8 3,970 26 78 20 3 82.4
October 18th, 2011 at 8:00 am
Hwnrdr Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 7:59 am
127.HueKnows Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 7:57 am
Al most definitely would not have used 3 draft picks in 1 draft to get 3 QBs
Well, in all fairness…he did sign off on 2 of them…
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Yeah a 3rd and a 4th not the 2 1st on top of that
October 18th, 2011 at 8:01 am
Hu was in desparation mode to salvage this season and may have gotten the Guy.
The move would not have been made if they weren’t completely confident in Palmer though. Hue will get the most out of him.
Those concerned about Palmer’s health/shape… he still has to pass a physical, no?
October 18th, 2011 at 8:02 am
What’s a conditional 1st rounder mean?
October 18th, 2011 at 8:02 am
Like I have mentioned earlier….whether we like this move or not, its irrelevant at this point! I hope some of the fans don’t start boycotting the games again…I’ like most of you, hope that this gamble works out! And believe me, I will be p***ed also, but…
October 18th, 2011 at 8:02 am
RaiderNation, I caution you that this deal is a long-term deal, and we may not reap all of the benefits this season.
Palmer will need time to adjust to the WRs and learn the playbook. Hopefully he can start after the bye week, but even then he will not be 100% of what he can be. I am sure he can give us much more than Campbell even if he is at 80% for the rest of this season, but next season will be the real deal.
Wow, I am excited.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:02 am
Like many of you said, the Raiders don’t need a lights-out QB. I don’t happen to agree, but as long as Carson Palmer can stand in the pocket long enough to deliver accurate passes to the Raider WRs? The Raiders will have something. Needs to stay healthy, though.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:02 am
GET THE MAN A PLAYBOOK ASAP…
October 18th, 2011 at 8:02 am
I might have to change my screen name.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:03 am
hwnrdr Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:02 am
Like I have mentioned earlier….whether we like this move or not, its irrelevant at this point! I hope some of the fans don’t start boycotting the games again…I’ like most of you, hope that this gamble works out! And believe me, I will be p***ed also, but…
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gotta support the move…
October 18th, 2011 at 8:03 am
139.HueKnows Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:00 am
Hwnrdr Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 7:59 am
127.HueKnows Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 7:57 am
Al most definitely would not have used 3 draft picks in 1 draft to get 3 QBs
Well, in all fairness…he did sign off on 2 of them…
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Yeah a 3rd and a 4th not the 2 1st on top of that
You got a point!
October 18th, 2011 at 8:04 am
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:02 am
GET THE MAN A PLAYBOOK ASAP…
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email the pdf file…
October 18th, 2011 at 8:05 am
cpalmer@raiders.com
October 18th, 2011 at 8:05 am
This is a glorious day but tj I still wanna punch you in the mouth.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:05 am
Its obvious that Hue Jackson is all in this season. He feels like this is the year to win it all and is going for it.
I like the move it shows how committed Hue is to this season. Its super bowl or bust!
WHY NOT US!!!!!
October 18th, 2011 at 8:06 am
Why does everyone want to ship out Bush? If Mcfadden stays healthy for 12 games TJ is a great compliment back. But if Mcfadden is out for a game or which is very likely in this league we have no idea if TJ could take the pounding of 25 carries a game and he doesn’t have the build of a back that can. We’re stacked, let’s keep it that way
October 18th, 2011 at 8:07 am
He feels like this is the year to win it all and is going for it.
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Palmers only 32, if he can regain his old form we’re gna be contenders for years to come
October 18th, 2011 at 8:08 am
# ddwight Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 7:58 am
How in the world could any raider fan like this trade…Have any of you seen Palmer over the last few years…he is trigger shy, ever since his he blew his leg out against the steelers in the playoffs. This is no upgrade by any stretch of the imagination…he is not what he once was, he cannot escape a rush…he is a statue…you guys are nuts if you think Carson Palmer is going to deliver the Hardware we want. Hue will have to work a miracle with him…the 1st rounder is much too high…he gave up on the Bengals, and he is a disaster waiting to happen for us…..badddd newwws here!!!
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Agreed..Oh well, moving on..Lets see what he has left. No reason to lament…
My philosophy on life is if something is bothering you, do something about it, if you can’t do anything about it, then don’t worry about it, its out of your control..
The Palmer Era Begins..
October 18th, 2011 at 8:08 am
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/18/report-carson-palmer-is-a-raider/
Woot!
October 18th, 2011 at 8:08 am
I embrace it Go Raiders…Al Davis Football!!!!
October 18th, 2011 at 8:09 am
Inonewordraider Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:07 am
He feels like this is the year to win it all and is going for it.
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Palmers only 32, if he can regain his old form we’re gna be contenders for years to come
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32 is not that young in this game
October 18th, 2011 at 8:09 am
Just got a Bleacher Report alert that this is now official.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:09 am
Stop worrying about TPryor just be glad we have him start worrying about who we play in the SUPER BOWL if we get there. This is hands down the biggest deal we’ve made since Mike Haynes deal to go to the SB. This QB is ELITE right now he gives the best QB in this division NOW. He makes us the oddson favorite to win the division right now.
I just didn’t think it was possible to get a QB of this calibre in todays NFL….period
October 18th, 2011 at 8:09 am
Thanks MikieG…that is how I feel also!
October 18th, 2011 at 8:10 am
PFT “Apart from the issues raised in the earlier item on the trade, the biggest question Raiders fans are asking is whether Palmer is in football shape. PFT reported back in September that Palmer had been working out with former NFL quarterback Ken O’Brien. Glazer said on The Dan Patrick Show that Palmer had continued to work out with O’Brien.”
Been working out and is ready to roll baby!
October 18th, 2011 at 8:10 am
Boller better do one heck of a job this Sunday…because it will be Palmer time against Denver
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shoot Curry started after one practice, just saying
October 18th, 2011 at 8:11 am
Who is Ken O’Brien?
October 18th, 2011 at 8:11 am
Priesttj Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:09 am
Stop worrying about TPryor just be glad we have him start worrying about who we play in the SUPER BOWL if we get there. This is hands down the biggest deal we’ve made since Mike Haynes deal to go to the SB. This QB is ELITE right now he gives the best QB in this division NOW. He makes us the oddson favorite to win the division right now.
I just didn’t think it was possible to get a QB of this calibre in todays NFL….period
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As much as I hate him Rivers is much better than Palmer
October 18th, 2011 at 8:11 am
inonewordraider Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:06 am
Why does everyone want to ship out Bush?
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Because he is gone at the end of the season anyway, and if we trade him, we will get a few picks that we OBVIOUSLY very much need now after this Carson thing.
Besides, Bush isn’t hitting the hole very hard this year as opposed to the way he has in the past..makes me wonder if he is playing to not get hurt…
Taiwan can play, and we have Cartwright if we need him..Bush is a valuable chess piece right now..
I would also like to see us get rid of Murphy for a few picks as well.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:12 am
Hwnrdr Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:11 am
Who is Ken O’Brien?
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Old Jets QB
October 18th, 2011 at 8:13 am
2 1st rounders is waaaaay to much!!!!!!
October 18th, 2011 at 8:13 am
Dakota Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:02 am
RaiderNation, I caution you that this deal is a long-term deal, and we may not reap all of the benefits this season.
Palmer will need time to adjust to the WRs and learn the playbook. Hopefully he can start after the bye week, but even then he will not be 100% of what he can be. I am sure he can give us much more than Campbell even if he is at 80% for the rest of this season, but next season will be the real deal.
Wow, I am excited.
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Dakota has been a MAN ON POINT the past 24 hours.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:14 am
just heard bengals wanted curry along with the trade!
October 18th, 2011 at 8:14 am
Carson will have 4 days to prepare. Will we see him aganst KC?
October 18th, 2011 at 8:14 am
HueJax called up JG Wentworth, clearly!
“I have draft picks/but I need wins now”
October 18th, 2011 at 8:14 am
NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
October 18th, 2011 at 8:14 am
Lost in all this is the report that the backup plan for Palmer was…..Vince Young
October 18th, 2011 at 8:14 am
I love this move. I know a lot of people are going to say that we gave up to much for Palmer. But this years draft when the ESPN talking heads start up about how the Pats are the masters of draft think for a second about why they are saying that they are sucessful. They TRADE DOWN!. The Raiders are doing the same thing except they are getting established value for their #1 pick. Last years draft was a great example. The team got value with Wiz 2.0. And our #1 pick….Richard Seymour. This years draft will be the same. Our first round pick is Palmer and we can get value in our 2nd round pick(s. We are loaded with #1 picks. We have gamebreakers at every skill position. Outside of a shutdown corner we don’t need another #1 rookie. I think Coach Jackson is sending the team a message – OUR TIME IS NOW!
October 18th, 2011 at 8:15 am
Awesome awesome awesome. This reminds me of getting gannon everyone said he was old and past his prime but shoot look what he did in oakland nough said on that.
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post # 28 classic lmao
October 18th, 2011 at 8:15 am
NOOOOOO!!!!! Carson Palmer for 1st rounder…are you joking???!!!!
October 18th, 2011 at 8:16 am
I have a headache now.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:17 am
ladies and gentleman, the return of the accurate DEEP BALL!
October 18th, 2011 at 8:17 am
This is a great deal if:
1) Palmer is healthy and in shape
2) Palmer wants to play for at least 5 more years
The good news is that this day was coming regardless. Campbell, Boller, Pryor were never the answer. So the Raiders were destined to change QB’s at some point. Better to do it now rather than later
October 18th, 2011 at 8:17 am
# ddwight Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:15 am
NOOOOOO!!!!! Carson Palmer for 1st rounder…are you joking???!!!!
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2 First Rounders Dude.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:17 am
MikieG Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:16 am
I have a headache now.
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Take it slow Bruh…Go have a cream soda, relax…
October 18th, 2011 at 8:17 am
Since this move is so iffy, I’ll just sit back with the rest of the “fans” and love it if it works out and hate it if it doesn’t. Mostly though, it sure smacks of something I expect out of the Raiders.
Since I really do know squat about being a coach or evaluating players, falling back to the “fan” level is all I can do in times like this.
I still don’t like the implications for Campbell. It seemed he was turning into a solid QB.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:17 am
Everyone who is over reacting to what we gave up to attain the services of Carson Palmer needs to chill the FK out.
How long has Raider nation waited to win? Exactly. Hue is putting a team together to win, Were you guys mad when Gruden did it? Only difference Gruden didn’t have all the young stars we have for the future.
This team will has a good blend of veterans and youngsters. Regardless of losing some high draft picks we will be fine! I like the aggresiveness by Hue. Just win baby!
October 18th, 2011 at 8:18 am
ddwight Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:15 am
NOOOOOO!!!!! Carson Palmer for 1st rounder…are you joking???!!!!
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Not one 1st rounder… potentially 2.
I still think it’s too much. But again, if the Raiders get to the AFC Championship/Superbowl because of Palmer’s presence, it doesn’t matter. But now they have no excuses.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:19 am
Making a Rue the Day list to show everyone in February when HueJax hoists the Lombardi Trophy and passes it to Palmer. KOOLAID BABY
October 18th, 2011 at 8:19 am
Coach Al Jackson is making it happen….
October 18th, 2011 at 8:19 am
167.HueKnows Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:12 am
Hwnrdr Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:11 am
Who is Ken O’Brien?
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Old Jets QB
Oh geez…from the 80’s/90’s? Oh well, at least he was still working out!
October 18th, 2011 at 8:20 am
Bunghole fans must be happy. They have a decent QB and two more first round picks…too bad Mike Brown is still their owner lol. Guess we know how that felt.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:20 am
You guys are all about now now now. Detroit and Buffalo to a lesser extend did this the right way. No draft picks left, another immodbile qb with questionable right arm strength. This is why we need a football guy with personnel experience running the show.
Qb or not, we are not ready to challenge for anything with lack of safeties and so so linebacking. Maybe just maybe we will get a playoff berth and then go out in the first round. So what. Get real people.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:20 am
Coach Al Jackson says, fck waiting 5 years we need to win it all now…Why not us???
October 18th, 2011 at 8:20 am
I would also like to see us get rid of Murphy for a few picks as well.
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Murphy I understand even though I like the guys passion, seems like a leader amonst the receivers but you only have to look at the game against Denver to see Bush still has it he closed that game and he still can close. DMAC get’s hurt this year how do you feel about TJ getting 25 carries and blocking for Palmer on play action?
October 18th, 2011 at 8:20 am
2 first rounders for a 32 year old QB who had one good year n regressed the following years. TOO MUCH. This is over paying IMO. Even a first rounder is a lot, I would have liked if we went after Matt Flynn, Josh Johnson, Bulgar or even Shaun Hill who is free agent. Carson Palmer is not an elite QB to give up a first rounder, we overpaid and paniced in this move it will only hurts us in the future.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:21 am
175 you are right on the money, I agree 100% percent
October 18th, 2011 at 8:21 am
It’s doomsday down here in San Diego. Everyone is freaking out.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:22 am
Qb or not, we are not ready to challenge for anything with lack of safeties and so so linebacking
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Tyvvon Branch Mike Mitchell and Michael Huff? Did you watch how Wimbley Mcclain and Curry looked Sunday?
October 18th, 2011 at 8:22 am
WOW! I can’t believe the great news, lately! First, Curry to shore up the run D. (appears to be working). Second, Palmer. A top 5 QB! It’s a great day to be a Raider Fan!
October 18th, 2011 at 8:22 am
LOL, Raiders4eve
Shaun Hill? Josh Johnson? Mark Bulger?
You COMBINE the skills of all those guys and they’re not as good as Palmer.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:22 am
morilla Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:21 am
It’s doomsday down here in San Diego. Everyone is freaking out.
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Yep, Palmer lit them up last year for 4 TD’s to no named WR’s last game of the 2010 season knocking them out of the playoffs…
October 18th, 2011 at 8:23 am
A real franchise QB and what could become a fearsome LB tandem in RoMac and Curry.
THE FUTURE IS BRIGHT, NATION
October 18th, 2011 at 8:23 am
Palmer trade = not having to listen to girls b!tch about which player to draft in the first round for the next few years.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:23 am
WHY NOT US!!
October 18th, 2011 at 8:23 am
They just comapred Rivers career numbers to Palmers. Pretty much the same all around except Palmer has more ints. Charger fans are now saying the Raiders will take the West.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:23 am
He’s just a bandaid. Should work tho. Not worried about 1st round. most of our best players recently have not been from 1st round. Boller now knows his days are numbered. His own fault for not being better prepared last wk. one shot and he blew it. We still won tho. You never know. We got Plunket in his twilight and he surprised evryone.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:23 am
FINALLY!!! It’s been a long 10 years but we finally have a LEGIT Pro Bowl QB.
Pro’s of this trade: PLAYOFFS FO SHO, AND MAYBE SB, NO MORE JAJASON, NO NIGHTMARE SCENARIO WITH BOLLER / PRYOR
Con’s of this trade: NOBODY NOT EVEN PEYTON IS WORTH A FIRST & SECOND ROUNDER, ELBOW ISSUES, NOT A GAME MANAGER BUT A GUN SLINGER WITH 20 INT’s in 2010.
I Will take the GOOD with the BAD and start making reservations for a home PLAYOFF game.. JUST WIN BABY!!
October 18th, 2011 at 8:24 am
Looks like Jason Campbell has lost his job. Terrell Pryor is not in the cards. Two 1st round picks. I don’t like it on the surface. Carson Palmer has not looked like a 1st round pick, let alone 2
October 18th, 2011 at 8:24 am
I think our D is coming along…for a long time, the D played not to lose and to protect a lead (in which we all know many times, yeah, that didn’t work)…imagine them playing with a lead and a darn good lead now! We all have to kick back in fan mode now…there is nothing we can do but wait to see the benefits, if any!
October 18th, 2011 at 8:24 am
Week 16, 2010. Cincinnati Bengals v. the San Diego Chargers. Carson Palmer, 16/21, 269 yards, 4 TDs
October 18th, 2011 at 8:24 am
riderm Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 7:35 am
Nation…ARE WE SURE THIS IS WHAT WE WANT???
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YOU GOT DAMN right this is what we want. I’ll say it again.
You got d%$m Mut@&%#$*@g right, this is what we want.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:24 am
“I think the Bengals got the better deal”…Colin Cowherd.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:24 am
The Bungholes won this deal, but we win too.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:25 am
wow, what a deal HUE DAVIS pulls off on for the ages…not only do we get an ELITE QB but someone who can mentor pryor for a few years.. great move!! thank you HUE DAVIS!!
October 18th, 2011 at 8:25 am
wholy jumpin schitballs what a difference a day makes.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:25 am
I trust Jackson. Even if the decision to not kick a fg last wk was stupid.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:25 am
So, is Carson Palmer the 2nd coming of Jim Plunkett? Priest sure seems to think so. I haven’t seen you so giddy, Priest. I just hope Carson can move a little around the pocket, and not be a statue. I’m still trying to figure if this is a good move.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:25 am
This spells the end for Campbell. Palmer’s going to light it up.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:26 am
riderm Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:24 am
“I think the Bengals got the better deal”…Colin Cowherd.
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So that means the Raiders unquestionably won
October 18th, 2011 at 8:26 am
Weaselbit Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:23 am
He’s just a bandaid.
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You don’t trade away your next two #1 draft picks for a bandaid. This could be a real disaster. I do not like the move.
Regardless, we have to get behind Palmer now and hope he reverses the trend we’ve had over the last decade with retread QBs.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:27 am
Gee, the Campbell guys “don’t like this”. What a shock. That’s because Campbell will never start another game for the Oakland RAiders now.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:27 am
Very short term move in my opinion. Setting ourselves up for a drought in replenishing talent. Better make a super bowl otherwise
October 18th, 2011 at 8:27 am
Madden Raider, you are okay with this deal?
So is Priesttj?
That gives me pause…..
October 18th, 2011 at 8:27 am
Huff is one of the best safeties in the league, IMO. I would argue he may be the best after Polamalu, Reed and Landry.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:27 am
Ok here’s my take; I believe we gave up WAY too much for him,,I’m not feeling the way he quit on his boys so it makes me question him as a leader,, I believe he’s probably in some shape (I’m sure he’s been throwing), but I don’t know how fast he’s gona pick up the playbook.
That being said, I supported JaMarcus Russell,,I supported Bruce Gradkowski (though I wasn’t a big fan of’em) and I supported Jason Campbell,(sorry your Raider career ended the way it did), so I’ll definitely will ride with Carson Palmer. Time to go to work Carson,,don’t let us down.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:28 am
for the raiders to give up that much it tells you what they think of boller.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:28 am
I was shakin’ in my boots when Denver made the statement that they would trade ORton to the Raiders. I was like man! WE DON”T WANT HIM!!
October 18th, 2011 at 8:28 am
Guys, all the key players on this team minus Seymour are UNDER 30. This team can compete til 2015 with a franchise QB. Which we have now.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:28 am
First, Curry to shore up the run D. (appears to be working).
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I got laughed out of here for saying that but putting Curry next to Romac, playing Henderson more and playing Bryant at DE = Hillis and Foster the week before stuffed!
October 18th, 2011 at 8:28 am
The NFL is on notice.
NASA deploys 1 Nation satelite today to track the deep balls being heaved in Oakland.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:28 am
2 first round picks is way too much I hope ESPN is wrong about that.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:28 am
Week Six power rankings
Posted by Mike Florio on October 18, 2011, 9:42 AM EDT
1. Packers (No. 1; 6-0): Brett Favre will be surprised at how long the cork stays in the champagne bottle of the ’72 Dolphins.
2. Ravens (No. 6; 4-1): They might be the only team that can beat the Pats in the playoffs, and that can stay within 20 of the Packers in the Super Bowl.
3. Patriots (No. 5; 5-1): It’s hard to tell whether the bigger indignity would be to cut Chad Ochocinco, or to keep him and not use him.
4. 49ers (No. 7; 5-1): “Hacksaw” Jim Harbaugh should dispense with the post-game handshake and go with a simple thumb’s up.
5. Lions (No. 3; 5-1): If Jim Schwartz ever gets fired by the Lions, Pete Carroll would surely hire him.
6. Raiders (No. 9; 4-2): The only thing that would make this story better is an instant impact from Terelle Pryor.
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WOW! ranked 6!
October 18th, 2011 at 8:29 am
Don’t forget that Palmer was stuck in the middle of a three ring circus the last few years in Cinci. Lots of blame to go around in that organization. If he still has it look out! We become possible Super Bowl contenders.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:29 am
If the Raiders were willing to give up this much, couldn’t they use this move to trade up and get Andrew Luck? Just a thought…
October 18th, 2011 at 8:29 am
Not necessarily SnB…but hey, we all have mixed emotions…lets see how it lays out and hope for the best! Let the negativity of this franchise walk out the door!
October 18th, 2011 at 8:29 am
Palmer could have another 5 good years in him and he’s under contract for three more seasons. Pryor could use time to develop and he may just be ready to take over at that point. We have young talent at almost every position. What’s not to like?
October 18th, 2011 at 8:29 am
Raiders4eve Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:20 am
2 first rounders for a 32 year old QB who had one good year n regressed the following years. TOO MUCH. This is over paying IMO. Even a first rounder is a lot, I would have liked if we went after Matt Flynn, Josh Johnson, Bulgar or even Shaun Hill who is free agent. Carson Palmer is not an elite QB to give up a first rounder, we overpaid and paniced in this move it will only hurts us in the future.
Absolutely agree with this…we have given up totally too much if Superbowl is not the result afterwards…this was desperation by the organization, any of those above QB’s would not have cost us too much…check your pockets for your wallets because the Bengals have just robbed us!
October 18th, 2011 at 8:30 am
This will set us BACK at least FIVE years. Jackson and company are over the top. Palmer has NO ARM STRENGTH LEFT, NO MOBILITY plus he has to learn the playbook. THIS IS JUST LIKE THE JAY SCHROEDER TRADE BUT WORSE. YOU GUYS HAVE NO CLUE ON HOW TO BUILD A SUSTAINABLE WINNING TEAM.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:30 am
220.SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:27 am
Very short term move in my opinion. Setting ourselves up for a drought in replenishing talent. Better make a super bowl otherwise
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One of the youngest teams in the NFL aren’t we? Our WRs, RBs, half our o-line, our DEs, LBers and Secondary are all very young I think.
I don’t like the idea of two first rounders, so I will be interested in seeing what the conditions are, but I really don’t think we need to get any younger. A solid QB for 5 seasons making us contenders for the playoffs will do more for us than any draft picks. How did our draft picks between 2000 and 2007 help us? Not nearly as much as an above average NFL QB will.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:31 am
I think this is a win-win.
An improving Cincinnati team with a fierce defense gets more picks to compete in a tough AFC North.
Raiders get the franchise QB they need to compete.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:31 am
I don’t like the deal. As I said, I would have rather trade for Matt Leinart, he has a better future than Carson who probably doesn’t have much left.
But, he’s a Raider got to back him up.
What happens to Campbell now? Wow, after turning it around this season, that’s football.
I hate given up first round picks, this is probably desperation. I just hope the deal doesn’t go through.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:31 am
Palmer is already in Oakland taking his physical! Wow, this is no shy Seymour situation!
October 18th, 2011 at 8:31 am
Rossee…tell us about your experience on Madden some other time.
Palmer is a Raider, you going to root for another team or get on board?
October 18th, 2011 at 8:32 am
memo Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:29 am
If the Raiders were willing to give up this much, couldn’t they use this move to trade up and get Andrew Luck? Just a thought…
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no way anyone would give up andrew luck unless it were the Rams
October 18th, 2011 at 8:32 am
PS. WE ARE NOT CLOSE TO A CONTENDER EVEN IF WE STUMBLE INTO A FIRST ROUND MATCHUP IN THE PLAYOFFS. GET REAL FOLKS. IMPROVING YES. BUT TO MORTGAGE YOUR FUTURE. NO WAY.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:32 am
221.Dakota Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:27 am
Madden Raider, you are okay with this deal?
So is Priesttj?
That gives me pause…..
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I know what you mean. LMFAO.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:32 am
Mj57 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:28 am
2 first round picks is way too much I hope ESPN is wrong about that.
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CBS reporting two #1 draft picks (the 2013 is conditional). I think it’s true.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:33 am
For those worrying about the 1st rounders given up for Palmer, chill out.
You were probably the same ones that said we don’t need 1st rnd picks because we don’t know how to use them (Huff. DHB, RoMac) comes to mind. Use that same logic and chill on this one. Although those guys are panning out now.
The picks for Palmer will be in the 28-32 range. I say well worth it.
We win NOW with Palmer and groom Pryor. Our future looks damn good to me.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:33 am
Dakota Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:31 am
Palmer is already in Oakland taking his physical! Wow, this is no shy Seymour situation!
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Give me a real link…
October 18th, 2011 at 8:33 am
So the “R” in MR stands for Rossee.
Take note folks…
October 18th, 2011 at 8:33 am
Timeline of my reactions to this news:
(Excitement) @!#% yeah! Can’t believe we are actually getting Palmer as a result of these unfortunate circumstances.
(Wishful thinking) Hope that 1st rounder is in 2013.
(Crushing blow) Wait… 2 first rounders… no way…
(Panic) !@#$!@#$!@#$!@#$!@#$@!#$!@#$!@#$
(Recovery) Ok, cool it, step back from the ledge…
(Optimism) In Hue we trust…
(Rationalizing) Ya know, we draft better in the later rounds anyways.
(Believing it) Ok, so next year, who would we have taken in the 1st? We’re actually relatively strong and young at most positions anyways. Good move, Al, in focusing on resigning our players.
(Second Guessing) But 2 first rounders? Is that really the best deal we could negotiate?
(Affirming Decision) Ya know what, a lot of pundits said the Pats swindled us in the Seymour trade and it’s been one of the best moves for the team. In Hue we trust. Let’s do it. Why not us?
(Getting on board) Sip more Kool Aid and LOVE IT.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:33 am
zopi Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:31 am
I don’t like the deal. As I said, I would have rather trade for Matt Leinart, he has a better future than Carson
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LOL. Okay, dude
Leinart has no future.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:33 am
Do you guys understand QB play? Carson is a statue because he disects defenses and has a quick release. He doesn’t need to scramble because he gets rid of the ball.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:33 am
YOU GUYS HAVE NO CLUE ON HOW TO BUILD A SUSTAINABLE WINNING TEAM.
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you think al davis wouldn’t make this trade? Talk to hue
October 18th, 2011 at 8:34 am
The only thing keeping the Raiders from being a contender was a legitimate QB. They have that now. No more excuses. AFC title or bust.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:34 am
To mortgage the future, I agree with that Rossee…but I believe we were contenders! We were 2 WTF games away from making the playoffs last year, why wouldn’t we have been this year?
October 18th, 2011 at 8:34 am
232.memo Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:29 am
If the Raiders were willing to give up this much, couldn’t they use this move to trade up and get Andrew Luck? Just a thought…
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I’ve heard people say it would take 5 first rounders to move up just a couple of spots to pick Luck….and the team with the #1 pick still might not give him up for that.
I wish Luck was around in 2007, but that is just how the dice roll sometimes.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:34 am
You guys also do realize the 31 years old is NOT old for a QB.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:34 am
Palmer has been working out in Southern California with former Jets quarterback Ken O’Brien. Palmer also has a strong relationship with Raiders head coach Hue Jackson, with the two men having worked together in Cincinnati from 2004-2006, when Jackson was the Bengals’ receivers coach
Palmer was willing to restructure his contract, which would pay him $6.9 million for the balance of this season, sources said. The Raiders have about $6 million left under the cap.
They key is Hue knows Palmer’s strenghts and weaknesses, Palmer looks to be in shape and healthy plus he restructured his contract and 6.9 mil isnt that bad.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:34 am
What number will Palmer wear Lechler has 9
October 18th, 2011 at 8:34 am
YoungAmerican Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:34 am
The only thing keeping the Raiders from being a contender was a legitimate QB. They have that now. No more excuses. AFC title or bust.
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CODE BLACK
October 18th, 2011 at 8:35 am
Great move for the Raiders!
Hue is playing to win NOW!
October 18th, 2011 at 8:35 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:34 am
What number will Palmer wear Lechler has 9
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He should wear 2, just to give the finger to JaDrank
October 18th, 2011 at 8:35 am
It cost Denver FOUR draft picks for Tebow, who by most accounts isn’t even an NFL caliber QB. Come on now
October 18th, 2011 at 8:35 am
@SilverNBlackPA, compare Bulgar’s career number to Palmer and look who is better, question is Palmer at this stage of his career worth a first round pick let alone two first rounders? Anyone would say he is worth maybe a third at best a second.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:36 am
Ok, a couple things. First, we absolutely overpaid for Palmer. I don’t think anyone can seriously dispute that. But the bottom line is that teams usually overpay for good players, whether it be with draft picks, or in contract price. Its ok to overpay for a really good player as long as they produce.
Second, we are still a run first team. Palmer isn’t going to change that. What we needed was a qb who is good enough to make a defense think twice before selling out on the run, and a qb who can take advantage when a d does sell out. Boller couldn’t do that. Palmer can. Our running backs are probably the ones happiest about this trade.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:36 am
Lowdown. I’ve been a Raider probably before you were conceived. You all have delusions of grandeur. Even if Palmer has any arm strength left (he doesn’t) even if he had a modicum of mobility (he doesn’t) he was never ever a WINNER. Loved the Curry trade, why not go after Clausen who has some upside? This is nuts and even AL would not have done this.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:36 am
247.Thec07 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:33 am
Dakota Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:31 am
Palmer is already in Oakland taking his physical! Wow, this is no shy Seymour situation!
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Give me a real link…
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Just heard it on an espn update listening to Cowherd.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:36 am
Redneck Raider @ 249…LOVE IT! GET ON BOARD!
October 18th, 2011 at 8:36 am
Dakota, provide a link that he is in oakland taking his Physical…If thats the case he he would have a week to prepare, and would start against KC…
October 18th, 2011 at 8:37 am
This is stupid….toooo muuuuccchhh for Palmer
October 18th, 2011 at 8:37 am
Just heard it on an espn update listening to Cowherd.
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Thanks Brother…That means he starts on sunday…
October 18th, 2011 at 8:37 am
Raiders4eve,
The market dictates. Apperently the Raiders paid prevailing market rate.
Anything else is speculation and coffee talk.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:37 am
The proof will be in the pudding felluz
October 18th, 2011 at 8:37 am
Rivers has never been much better than Palmer and still isn’t Rivers turns the ball over way too much. Palmer is right there in the top 8 QB’s in this league. he just hasn’t been happy for some time. Put him in thr right situation and that guy has one of the mosst accurate arms in the game.
Right now it’s just a matter of teams that these QB’s are as to how goood they can be. I don’t think Palmer has e ever had a running game like this one. He will by years end be ready to take us anywhere we want to go.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:37 am
But 2 first rounders? Is that really the best deal we could negotiate?
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If Carson performs well enough for that 2013 pick to become a 1st rounder then it is totally worth it!
October 18th, 2011 at 8:38 am
261.SilverNBlackPA Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:35 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:34 am
What number will Palmer wear Lechler has 9
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He should wear 2, just to give the finger to JaDrank
LOL…yeah but if Pryor couldn’t wear it…I think they should retire their first number…just so we get rid of the memories…
October 18th, 2011 at 8:38 am
Why are some of you peoples crying about losing draft picks?
We now have an elite QB.
Are team is fairly young and hungry.
We can add players via free agency.
Who wouldn’t want to play for Hue!
October 18th, 2011 at 8:38 am
Which means he probabl was emailed the play book last week when the rumors started…lol
October 18th, 2011 at 8:38 am
“Our running backs are probably the ones happiest about this trade.”
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word.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:38 am
bcz24 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:37 am
But 2 first rounders? Is that really the best deal we could negotiate?
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If Carson performs well enough for that 2013 pick to become a 1st rounder then it is totally worth it!
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Amen
October 18th, 2011 at 8:38 am
Palmer is still young in QB years and has had some time now to get his head together. If his elbow is okay, which I’m sure will be looked at in his physical, he should have a solid four years left in him. This is such a huge upgrade from Campbell I’m giddy.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:39 am
Look what Hue and Al did with JC, gonna be a Ho
E run with Palmer!
October 18th, 2011 at 8:39 am
Right now it’s just a matter of teams that these QB’s are as to how goood they can be. I don’t think Palmer has e ever had a running game like this one. He will by years end be ready to take us anywhere we want to go.
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Or an Oline…Guy used to get killed in natti…
October 18th, 2011 at 8:39 am
You can never pay too much to get to the Super Bowl!!!!! GREAT MOVE!!!!! WOOHOO….Al Davis Lives……..I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!
October 18th, 2011 at 8:39 am
So what happens when stationed QB like Palmer gets hurt. Who do we get then?
October 18th, 2011 at 8:39 am
SI_PeterKing Peter King
by CorkOnTheNFL
RT @mortreport: Carson Palmer is in Bay Area getting physical, expects to pass and then paperwork will be finalized to NFL
October 18th, 2011 at 8:40 am
270.Thec07 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:37 am
Just heard it on an espn update listening to Cowherd.
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Thanks Brother…That means he starts on sunday…
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No way, you think so? Naaaaaa, i think we will have to wait until after the bye week….although Palmer could do better playing left handed than Boller can on his best day.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:40 am
Dunno if you are older than me. Been watching since 1980. But who cares?
But if you are older, you should be wise enough to know Hue and most of us here are seriously not interested in your thoughts.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:40 am
So do we roll w/ Boller this weekend? and bring Palmer after the bye?
October 18th, 2011 at 8:40 am
I WILL BE AT THE KC GAME TO WITNESS THIS EPIC EVENT….
PALMER WILL START ON SUNDAY….
October 18th, 2011 at 8:40 am
Repost:
Timeline of my reactions to this news:
(Excitement) @!#% yeah! Can’t believe we are actually getting Palmer as a result of these unfortunate circumstances.
(Wishful thinking) Hope that 1st rounder is in 2013.
(Crushing blow) Wait… 2 first rounders… no way…
(Panic) !@#$!@#$!@#$!@#$!@#$@!#$!@#$!@#$
(Recovery) Ok, cool it, step back from the ledge…
(Optimism) In Hue we trust…
(Rationalizing) Ya know, we draft better in the later rounds anyways.
(Believing it) Ok, so next year, who would we have taken in the 1st? We’re actually relatively strong and young at most positions anyways. Good move, Al, in focusing on resigning our players.
(Second Guessing) But 2 first rounders? Is that really the best deal we could negotiate?
(Affirming Decision) Ya know what, a lot of pundits said the Pats swindled us in the Seymour trade and it’s been one of the best moves for the team. In Hue we trust. Let’s do it. Why not us?
(Getting on board) Sip more Kool Aid and LOVE IT.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:41 am
My guess is the conditional pick in 2013 turns form a 2nd to a 1st if Palmer takes them to the super bowl. Or something along those lines. I’d gladly give up two late 1st round picks for a franchise QB who takes us to the SB.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:41 am
Palmer I saw last year get’s us into the playoffs, Palmer in his prime get’s us into at least 1 superbowl
October 18th, 2011 at 8:41 am
I’ll be back playerz!
October 18th, 2011 at 8:42 am
Dakota Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:40 am
270.Thec07 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:37 am
Just heard it on an espn update listening to Cowherd.
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Thanks Brother…That means he starts on sunday…
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No way, you think so? Naaaaaa, i think we will have to wait until after the bye week….although Palmer could do better playing left handed than Boller can on his best day.
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Hue started a new WILL on 1 day of practice. Couting today palmer gets 5…Hue WILL start Palmer on sunday…
October 18th, 2011 at 8:42 am
Dakota what is Palmers class????
Last time I saw him play he missed soem open targets and oh yeah…quit on his team!!!!
He wanted Ocho to stay – managment did it.
He wanted TO – management got him.
So what does he do? Demand a trade and quit.
Palmer’s play has not been good since he blew out his knee. Point blank! Palmer should get mad at Palmer. His deep ball use to money after his knee it was average.
No way I give up a first for this guy when we don’t even have a first.
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100.Dakota Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 7:51 am
85.CJ Legend 34 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 7:47 am
If it was me I would keep my first round pick. Palmer is not worth a first round pick.
Plus, we have no idea if Pryor is our QB of the future. What do we do if Palmer is OK. Do we sign him agian next year and Campbell? How are we going to pay Palmer more than Campbell. Also, isnt Palmer a free agent next year?
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No no no, this move ends Campbell in Oakland….obviously….as Jackson would say. And Palmer is under contract through 2014, so we don’t have to worry about him leaving like we had to worry about Seymour.
Campbell has never been in Palmer’s class, not even close.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:42 am
#249
RedneckRaider Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:33 am
Timeline of my reactions to this news:
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Exactly my reactions.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:42 am
Thec07 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:40 am
I WILL BE AT THE KC GAME TO WITNESS THIS EPIC EVENT….
PALMER WILL START ON SUNDAY
I’ll be there bro…
October 18th, 2011 at 8:42 am
I know. Maybe on his death bed AL was mumbling to Hue go get Palmer, I want Palmer. He really meant I want to speak to Arnie before I leave this earth. This is not good people.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:43 am
If anyone cares, John Madden says Palmer is most likely the best available QB and was really very good. He says that to reach the playoffs, the Raiders needed a QB and with Campbell down, they had this limited window to grab someone. Madden also says the Raiders are a playoff caliber team this year, so it makes sense to keep the thing going at this point.
Palmer should have more a team here to work with, and Hue knows him. I am guessing we will see Boller on Sunday and then Palmer.
We really can’t use Lechler as the backup.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:43 am
@DannySouthwick Danny Southwick
Don’t call it a comeback. I’ve been here for years.
14 minutes ago
October 18th, 2011 at 8:43 am
Now we have a QB who can air it out when the run game falters. I thought Soup was playing pretty well but he had yet to show that he could take over a game when DMac or Bush were kept in check. We’ll be seeing the long ball completed now.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:44 am
This is INSANE!!!!
Giving up WAY TOO MUCH!!!!
Palmer was so severely outplayed by rookie Mark Sanchez at home in the post-season two years ago it was obvious he doesn’t have it anymore.
HUE IS SUCH A ROOKIE. TOTAL PANIC BUYING UNDERWAY IN OAKLAND!!!
October 18th, 2011 at 8:44 am
Loved Campbell. But any pass over 20 yards was basically a Hail Mary. Given the speed we have Campbell was never going be able to take advantage. He got lucky on the Denarius TD against Buffalo but name another time he hit one of our wideouts on a deep route. Once Palmer gets the timing down a whole new dimension to our offense becomes available. With the real possibility of a deep threat the safeties will have to drop back which just gives DMAC more open space. I hate to lose draft picks but this can really take our offense to a whole new level.
Kyle, welcome back to being one of the top back-up QBs in the league.
Forget the picks for now. Let’s get excited!!!
October 18th, 2011 at 8:44 am
Too many peeps I see on here for the 1st time having nothin but negative things to say about this trade???
Keep on reading and stop blogging……go cry to your momma’s!!!!
#CODE BLACK
October 18th, 2011 at 8:44 am
We did pay too much for him, but if he pans out this could be awesome!! Then we won’t be saying we paid too much for him. Just needs to see how it plays out!
October 18th, 2011 at 8:44 am
Great move.
BTW how the fck do u refresh page with a iPhone?
Please enlighten
October 18th, 2011 at 8:45 am
What becomes of Pryor? Palmer is the guy for 6 years at least.
Cut boller! What good is a backup that can’t, well backup
October 18th, 2011 at 8:46 am
This is by far the worst move of the 2011 season.
1.) carson is a quitter. he bailed on his team in cinci and isnt a leader. Carson is a front runner, that is fine when everything goes his way, but dont look for him to be able to dig deep when the going gets rough. when the bungles needed him he folded up his tent, mailed in the box top, and left his team hanging.
2.) we are mortgaging the future against this flop of a qb, that hasnt done anything of note, and is already on the decline in his career.
3.) This seems reactionary, and not proactive. Carson isnt good enough to come in and take us to the super bowl this year. This team isnt super bowl ready quiet yet. So how does bringing him in and giving up draft picks make us better moving forward?
bad move, we should hand the keys to boller, and compete the best we can prepping for next year.
THIS SUCKS
October 18th, 2011 at 8:46 am
Carson turns 32 in December so stop trying to make him old. Only 2 years older than Campbell.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:47 am
Wow, MR is busting his @zz making up new names to post his complaints today….
October 18th, 2011 at 8:48 am
Your WRONG Mystic1
This is a great move your upset because of your man crush on JC.
What happened to your trust in Hue Jack?
I thought you were in lock step with Hue Jack?
October 18th, 2011 at 8:48 am
Common sense says Boller will start against KC, giving Palmer almost three weeks of practice time before starting. He’ll need time to get his timing down with the receivers.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:49 am
CJ Legend 34 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:42 am
Dakota what is Palmers class????
Last time I saw him play he missed soem open targets and oh yeah…quit on his team!!!!
He wanted Ocho to stay – managment did it.
He wanted TO – management got him.
So what does he do? Demand a trade and quit.
Palmer’s play has not been good since he blew out his knee. Point blank! Palmer should get mad at Palmer. His deep ball use to money after his knee it was average.
No way I give up a first for this guy when we don’t even have a first.
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The guy is already in Oakland taking his physical. Do you doubt his want to play? He spend 9 years in NFL hell with the Bungholes and wanted out after his 58th teammate was convicted! Not too many people outside of Mike Brown were blaming Palmer for demanding a trade. Palmer threw 47 TDs the last two seasons and made 32 starts. Now his health is an issue? I don’t think so.
Is he as good as he was before the injury? No. Is he better than any QB we have had since Gannon? by far. I don’t think he is an elite top 5 qb, but he is still in the class right below that. Certainly a QB who is capeable of winning a Super Bowl. Campbell was not that type of QB.
Besides, we are a better team and those first rounders are now going to be pick in the mid 20s or later. Not like we gave them 2 top ten first rounders, and our teams is young across the board.
Is it a gamble? Certainly. But a good gamble. If Palmer can give us a legit passing game we can beat anyone.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:51 am
#313: Amen Dakota.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:53 am
I knew morons would start criticizing trade as soon as they could… fcuken idiots… atleast wait to see how good he is with Raiders. . A bunch of MRs..make me sick.m
October 18th, 2011 at 8:54 am
C’mon RAIDER NATION! What is not to like about this trade? Hue must have been on the phone all night trying to work this deal! Huge upgrade at the QB position.
I can’t understand some of you.REAL RAIDER fans love this deal.Kyle Boller is not the answer to lead us where we need to go this year(deep into the playoffs).Some of you were crying about Soup,now we get a top notch QB and you are STILL CRYING!!!!! Then some idiot is talking abt Clausen…I wanted the Gunslinger-wouldda been cheaper but I will definately take this.
Palmer knows Hue’s system so the playbook shouldn’t be a problem to digest.I was all sad yesterday.Thinking about making the trip to Oakland for the Denver game to see freaking Boller run the offense.I hope Carson starts that Denver game!!!! WOO HOOO!!!
October 18th, 2011 at 8:57 am
Funny, it will take until 2014 to see the first non-Al draft…plus there is now a wage scale to prevent jaflushing 40 mil on a rook…
October 18th, 2011 at 8:57 am
RaiderAD Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:44 am
This is INSANE!!!!
Giving up WAY TOO MUCH!!!!
Palmer was so severely outplayed by rookie Mark Sanchez at home in the post-season two years ago it was obvious he doesn’t have it anymore.
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Yea, but Carson’s wife is pretty hot…
October 18th, 2011 at 8:58 am
ARE YOU PEOPLE NUTS?????
Do you really want to go into next year’s draft with nothing until round 5? How do you expect to improve the team?
Palmer is shot. Finished. Haven’t you been watching? Did you see that playoff game AT HOME two years ago? I wouldn’t give up one number one for this guy – nevermind two.
The draft is the lifeblood of these teams. We are already down a draft after giving up picks for 22, 72, etc…
DON’T DO THIS HUE!!!
October 18th, 2011 at 9:02 am
Point taken RaiderAD, however, Carson’s wife is pretty hot
October 18th, 2011 at 9:03 am
not as hot as Boller’s!!!!
October 18th, 2011 at 9:04 am
OK, If it’s Palmer, the OLine has to turn into a qb protecting machine. Palmer has always had trouble staying up in the pocket, he’ll be a standing target, at least with Campbell he had some speed to get out, although you’d never knew if Campbell put the ball in the ground.
After watching Leinart for many years in SoCal, I’m having trouble believing that Casell, Sanchez, and Palmer are better than him. This one I will never understand.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:04 am
Just heard the 2013 pick becomes a 1 if we win a playoff game this year
October 18th, 2011 at 9:04 am
Common sense says Boller will start against KC, giving Palmer almost three weeks of practice time before starting. He’ll need time to get his timing down with the receivers.
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The good news is Carson will have a full preseason to get ready given the next 3 weeks we play the Chiefs, bye and the Donkeys. He should be ready for prime time when we play the Bolts on Thursday night.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:16 am
RaiderAD Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:58 am
ARE YOU PEOPLE NUTS?????
Do you really want to go into next year’s draft with nothing until round 5? How do you expect to improve the team?
Palmer is shot. Finished. Haven’t you been watching? Did you see that playoff game AT HOME two years ago? I wouldn’t give up one number one for this guy – nevermind two.
The draft is the lifeblood of these teams. We are already down a draft after giving up picks for 22, 72, etc…
DON’T DO THIS HUE!!!
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I recall the Bungles kicker missing a half-dozen chip shots in that one. This Raiders team is more talented than that Bungles team. We haven’t been in the playoffs in nearly 10 years and have had awful QB play for most of that stretch.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:20 am
let’s get real – this deal was there for Al (or anyone else) to make all summer
Al chose not to do it
he knew the price was too steep
Hue is a freaking rookie getting his clock cleaned
BIG MISTAKE
October 18th, 2011 at 9:43 am
Hey you guys, we’re “actually-only” giving up an early (2nd round pick)!
Think about it. If we can get some decent play out of him and with the weapons we have on this team and the remaining schedule, which isn’t bad, then we should make the playoffs.
If we go deep into the playoffs, which I think we can, then our first round pick next year is 25th thru 32nd.
That’s right…25th thru 32nd ( = ) high second round
It’s usually the top ten to fifteen players that are potential team changers or improvers, after that the remaining first rounders are actually “early 2nd” rounders.
In 2013, the same senario transpires, our first round pick will actually be a late first…maybe 27th thru
32nd…so, what’s all the fuss?
We had to pull the trigger, we had to go for it as not too many opportunities present themselves.
Think positive Raiders fans…get ready for the ride pass the summit and on to the top of the mountain, where we’ll look down on the valley…at the milk and honey and the grapes on the vineyards. It’s all good.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:58 am
Two weeks ago I posted that the Raiders are a QB and an LB away from being legit SB contenders. Now, Al has passed, and both of these positions have been filled. Wow
October 18th, 2011 at 10:02 am
Comparing 2010 stats, Palmer throws more deep balls and more INT’s. Overall rating is about the same
Player Cmp/Att Pct Yds YPA TD IN 20+ Rate TD/A IN/A
Palmer 362/586 61.8% 3970 6.8 26 20 45 82.4 4.4% 3.4%
Soup 194/329 59.0% 2387 7.3 13 8 29 84.2 4.0% 2.4%
October 18th, 2011 at 12:13 pm
Wow… so you ’steal’ Aaron Curry…(oh and did we say “thank you”??) for next years 7th round pick.. and now you give up next years first round (and perhaps the 2013 1st rounder as well).. for a 31 year old mediocre QB who hasn’t played in a year??
BWAAAHAAAHAAHAAAHAAHAAHAAHAAAHAAHAAAHAAHAAAHAAAA!!!!!
I love watching The Raiders implode.
You honestly think Palmer will take this team to the SB?? Put the pipe down and slowly back away. You are waaaay too high.
October 18th, 2011 at 1:28 pm
There’s actually such thing as Seahawk fans?
Not sure what conditions the conditional pick in 2013 is for that 1st rounder, but if that includes a trip to this years AFC Championship or even higher to the Super Bowl, then giving up 2-1st rounder isn’t such a bad thing.
Look, Tampa Bay gave up 2-1st and 2-2nds, for OUR Super Bowl. They didn’t seem to mind. Too bad we didn’t pick 1st and 2nd round caliber players with those picks other than Nnamdi.
October 18th, 2011 at 4:28 pm
Classic, a s***hawk fan on a RAIDERS BLOG telling us about THE RAIDERS imploding. Ever heard of cable,gallery and miller you a**hole. This pick up of Palmer reminds me of the trades Al worked in the 70’s,80’s, and even the 90’s. “JUST WIN NOW BABY”!
October 24th, 2011 at 11:32 am
Yeah youg guys sure looked crisp yesterday. Yep, I watched AC do nothing except get a 15 yard penalty. Oh and your new hero Palmer? Still think he was worth two first rounders? Win Now? Hardly.. and with no draft picks for the next two years, winning this decade will be tough!
BWAAAHAAAHAAAHAAAHAAAHAAAHAAAHAAAAA!!!
I told you AC was a bust and now you get to see it for yourselves. I told you that Palmer wasn’t worth two first rounders (he isn’t worth anything).. and now you get to see that as well.
See, you have to acutally understand football to have been able to see that these two recent moves by your front office didn’t help you JUST WIN NOW BABY.. all they did was ensure you won’t win for many years to come. And we in Seattle still thank you for ’stealing’ Aaron Curry from us!!!
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