What Raiders trade for Palmer means for Campbell
By Steve Corkran
Tuesday, October 18th, 2011 at 7:26 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Raiders coach Hue Jackson talked about what a whirlwind 12 or 13 hours it was before his team secured a trade for veteran quarterback Carson Palmer. Imagine what the past 48 hours has been like for quarterback Jason Campbell.
On Sunday afternoon, Campbell was the unquestioned starter of a resurgent Raiders team, no longer fearful of being replaced by Bruce Gradkowski at the slightest provocation or misstep. This finally was his team.
Just before halftime, Campbell scrambled downfield, with Cleveland Browns linebacker Scott Fujita in pursuit. Fujita and a teammate tackled Campbell, as Campbell dived for extra yardage. Fujita bounced to his feet. Campbell stayed down.
Campbell had suffered a broken right collarbone, which set about a remarkable chain of events.
Campbell learned that he needed surgery to correct the damage and that he would be out for six weeks or so.
Surely, he would be back in time for the final month of the season, ready to retake the reins from Kyle Boller and finish what he started.
Wrong. No next man up here.
Boller apparently wasn’t good enough, in Jackson’s estimation, to hold down the fort, either. That, or Jackson simply found the opening he needed to find someone better than Campbell.
It’s worth noting, and remembering, that Jackson had a hand in Campbell being benched at halftime of the Raiders second game last season and that it was Al Davis who orchestrated the trade that brought Campbell to the Raiders last year.
Enter Carson Palmer, a player Jackson recruited to Southern Cal many years ago and later worked with when both were with the Cincinnati Bengals.
Jackson hit the phone Monday, broke through Bengals owner Mike Brown, ponied up two high draft picks and sealed the deal for Palmer in advance of the league trade deadline Tuesday afternoon.
“Jason was the starting quarterback on this football team and did a fantastic job,” Jackson said. “Very unfortunate that he got hurt and had surgery (Monday). He is resting comfortably, and we’re going to miss him. Jason did so many good things here, not only on this football team but in the community.”
Jackson’s tone smacked of someone who had moved on. He certainly didn’t talk about Campbell as if he were part of the future.
“I am really glad to have had the opportunity to work with Jason, watch what Jason did and how he led this team,” Jackson said. “We’re gonna miss him and wish him a very speedy recovery. And hope he gets back in the building soon.”
Once Campbell returns, he’ll have to decide if he wants to be Palmer’s backup, play out the string and evaluate his options after this season. The Raiders didn’t trade two high draft picks for Palmer to have him be a backup.
Campbell’s contract is up after this season, and he turns 30 in December. Palmer turns 32 in December. The Raiders have Palmer under contract through 2014.
No one has heard from Campbell since his surgery, which took place Monday. It’s a safe bet that he isn’t thrilled by the Raiders bringing aboard Palmer after he had worked so hard to keep the starting job.
Can’t wait to hear what he has to say about what he thinks of the past few days’ events, especially those 12, 13 hours that Jackson called “unbelievable.”
That might be one of the few things Jackson and Campbell agree upon now that Palmer is the new flavor of the month.
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October 18th, 2011 at 7:27 pm
Adios, Jason.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:28 pm
Raider_D Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 6:39 pm
I was listening to Jay Glazer talk about this some and I have to agree. While fans of teams that have solid QBs will look at this and scream we got robbed and paid too much fans of teams that don’t have a solid QB will say yeah you have to pay the price to get that guy on your team.
Is the price of a 1 and a 2 (possibly 2 1’s) high.. Hell yeah it is but with a player coming out of college thats never played a down in the NFL you never know what youre going to get. With Palmer who admittedly has had a couple rough seasons you at least have a gauge of the quality of player he is and how he will react while playing in the NFL.
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This post is exactly right. Getting Palmer for what we paid is a bargain. Paying what we paid for Jacarcass was a rip.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:29 pm
Jason, some parting advice. Play some Madden so you learn what a cover 2 is!
October 18th, 2011 at 7:30 pm
“obviously” this is a great move for the team..
October 18th, 2011 at 7:31 pm
Jason gets to collect a big fat paycheck while rehabbing his broken collarbone.
Then he gets to stand on the sideline with a clipboard and collect more checks.
Sounds like a good gig to me.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:31 pm
New flavor of the month?
What the hell does that mean Steve???
Palmer is the franchise QB, that’s the flavor!
Real nice dude.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:32 pm
I’m surprised JC is not going to IR
October 18th, 2011 at 7:32 pm
I like Jason Campbell. I didn’t overly like Jason before the season began, but Jason proved he can compete he is a good player, and he has a place in this league. There is NO doubt about that. Right now Jason needs to work on one thing and one thing only: getting himself healthy. After that, everything will take care of itself.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:32 pm
@6
I know right
October 18th, 2011 at 7:32 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 7:20 pm
People are making too much of the long term cost of this. Very few first round draft picks pan out anyway. Always possibilities for trades between free agency and draft, where draft picks can be obtained. The only real long term effect is cap. But we need a QB. Even if Campbell was good (he’s not), we’d need someone now. Boller is OK but I don’t think he’s even in Palmer’s league. If we go with Boller we run the risk of letting this great season fall apart. This really had to be done. And the only true long term cost is cap space, but that can always be worked out, too. So just STFU and be happy. We’re in such a good position right now it’s not even funny.
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I totally agree!
right now we use the same tactic on draft picks as Al has done for years on the cap-problem…
we pay for todays problem next year! we pay today salaries next year, and now we get our players today with next years pick..
if it pans out, no problem! if it doesnt its just like picking a JaMarcus in 1st round.. so its no biggy, in fact I see it as we have an upper hand!
October 18th, 2011 at 7:35 pm
LMN,
I totally disagree with you agreeing with Sully!
Shame on you.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:35 pm
Steve Corkran!
again you work looks like a 10yo homework or a 70yo email, NO STRUCTURE!!
The wordings or the texts isnt a problem, but it looks like he11 and it makes it hard on the eye! so try to see how predecessor structured his posts!
October 18th, 2011 at 7:36 pm
@12
LMN HAHAHAHAH
October 18th, 2011 at 7:37 pm
SaintKaufman Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 7:35 pm
LMN,
I totally disagree with you agreeing with Sully!
Shame on you.
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Bwhahah, yeah I know, but since Al is gone, some of his posts actually makes sense =) I would have prefered some other guy have wrote what he did, but anyhoo, I agreed =)
October 18th, 2011 at 7:38 pm
Blackmamba_20 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 7:36 pm
@12
LMN HAHAHAHAH
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Lets hope he reads my post =)
October 18th, 2011 at 7:38 pm
#1 Palmer
#2 Soup
#3 Pryor, sit, learn and wait your turn.
That is not a bad line up for the back end of the season and possibly 2012. JC would be a bad a$$ backup QB if Palmer pans out.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:39 pm
You don’t know how happy I am to read about Jason Campbell in past tense.
Now we can actually go, and fancy ourselves as legitimate Super Bowl candidates.
You can’t do that, with Jason Campbell as your QB.
This upgrade at QB, replicates our coaching shift this past season.
Cable was a hard-worker, and got this ball rolling in the right direction, but Hue obviously has the higher ceiling and the ability to take us to the next level.
Well Soup, is the Cable of QB’s. Hard-worker, got the ball rolling in the right direction, but Palmer is here wit the higher ceiling and ready to take us to the next level.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:40 pm
http://www.raiders.com/media-vault/videos/Carson-Palmer-Press-Conference/dff812f8-2ce1-4bc3-985e-41f361aa5b32
The GM announces the new quartback with man size balls.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:41 pm
JFB..
hmm well after week 2 you were in Campbells corner, now you sound like you never ever liked the guy?
October 18th, 2011 at 7:42 pm
The Realist Dirty Raccoon Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 7:27 pm
HueKnows Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 6:49 pm
The Realist Dirty Raccoon Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 6:46 pm
Soma, Norco, and 211 work well too.
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Soma and Norco kind of f you up and cause drowsiness. However I used to take them for fun. 211 is pretty good stuff but that is what my garden is for.
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Ambien and Percocet work well too.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:43 pm
15.La Milicia Negra Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 7:38 pm
Blackmamba_20 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 7:36 pm
@12
LMN HAHAHAHAH
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Lets hope he reads my post =)
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He will, he probably posts under one of those ” 1st time poster” accounts, looking for some constructive criticism, which you’ve kindly supplied. lol
October 18th, 2011 at 7:43 pm
JC should be IR’d… We’re riding Palmer to the playoffs…
October 18th, 2011 at 7:44 pm
As mentioned above, this is way better than spending a 1st round draft pick, making a high risk gamble, on a rookie QB that could take years/seasons thrown away to develop.
Plus we got Aaron Curry for a 7th, and our last draft was amazing. Soo.. A first and 2nd don’t hurt too bad
October 18th, 2011 at 7:44 pm
This could mean Boller will be competing with Campbell for the backup qb at the end of the season and next, Pryor can now patiently develop his NFL qb career.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:44 pm
Pryor better be taking notes.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:45 pm
Raiders for life Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 7:38 pm
#1 Palmer
#2 Soup
#3 Pryor, sit, learn and wait your turn.
That is not a bad line up for the back end of the season and possibly 2012. JC would be a bad a$$ backup QB if Palmer pans out.
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You obviously skip over the articles by Corkran and McDonald, eh? Soup is done. Cooked. One foot out the door. Boller is #2.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:45 pm
LMN,
He played a tad better than I expected at first, but his play was tapering off, and it was pretty obvious after the Pats game, he wasn’t ready for the moment this season might provide.
Seems like a good dude and all, but Hue would know better than any of us, and he was ready for the Soup era to end.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:46 pm
Truth be told, the only reason we were in this position in the first place is because of the Raiders’ inability to seriously address the QB position in recent years.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:47 pm
Next year Pryor will be the backup and Boller the #3.
Soup will be trying to find a team with a crappy starter to give him a look to compete for a starting gig.
He can go do his checkdown routine in Kansas City next year for all I care.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:47 pm
Me thinks Hue Davis convinces JaCampbell to stay as the backup. And when Palmer is done it will be Pryor time.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:47 pm
Raiders for life Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 7:38 pm
#1 Palmer
#2 Soup
#3 Pryor, sit, learn and wait your turn.
That is not a bad line up for the back end of the season and possibly 2012. JC would be a bad a$$ backup QB if Palmer pans out.
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Campbell has proven he can be a starting Q in this league. No reason for him to back up anyone.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:48 pm
Damn!!!!! HueJax ain’t no joke. Next stop for Jason Campbell,,,Miami Dolphins. Journey man
October 18th, 2011 at 7:49 pm
Oak-Tone Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 7:43 pm
JC should be IR’d… We’re riding Palmer to the playoffs…
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dont you think he will, no reason to waste a spot on th 53man roster on a guy we cant use, even if Palmer goes down(which I wont, knock on wood, salt over shoulder). Campbell is out for at least 6-8 weeks, so he should be IR destined!
October 18th, 2011 at 7:51 pm
Campbell has proven he can be a starting Q in this league. No reason for him to back up anyone.
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This team will be better without him, just like the Redskins seem to be doing much better without him as well.
He will not be handed another starting job again.
He will have to compete for one, and it won’t be a great one to begin with.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:51 pm
mikedlopes Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 7:44 pm
Pryor better be taking notes
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everything ive read and heard is that he is very engaging and dedicated to work and study.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:51 pm
It does suck that it went down for him like that. I liked JC, seemed like a cool dude with a good head on his shoulders. I wasn’t always a supporter of him in the beginning, but he came on and really starting making progress. It semed like he was coming into his own and leading the team to a promising season. Then bam, his whole life just did a 180. It’s gotta be a horrible feeling.
Plus he wore the siver & black and I’ll always pull for anyone wearing that jersey.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:52 pm
Steve Corkran:
“On Sunday afternoon, Campbell was the unquestioned starter of a resurgent Raiders team, no longer fearful of being replaced by Bruce Gradkowski at the slightest provocation or misstep”
…………
That should have never been the case in the first place. Gradkowski should still be here, there was absolutely no logical reason to get rid of him. If you want proof, just wait till you see some of the reasons in response to this comment. They’re laughable at best.
So, Campbell was on borrowed time. He was on easy street in a plum job that he didn’t earn. He should have had Gradkowski waiting in the shadows as a threat to take his job if he didn’t perform, because he’s no pro bowler.
Typically, when you’re in a plum job that’s really not yours to begin with, all it takes is a scenario like this to turn your world upside down.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:54 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 7:45 pm
LMN,
He played a tad better than I expected at first, but his play was tapering off, and it was pretty obvious after the Pats game, he wasn’t ready for the moment this season might provide.
Seems like a good dude and all, but Hue would know better than any of us, and he was ready for the Soup era to end.
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okay fair enough! I was getting helluva heat, for calling Campbell as I saw him, as a sub-par QB.. I have no doubt that he is a good guy, but he will never get a team to the PO’s
I was on Campbells a55 just as he became a raider, I would like him as backup, but never as a starter! later Dakota joined me, but people here were only after me. They said I was a bad fan for attacking Campbell after a win, I liked the win, it just had nothing to do with Campbell!
October 18th, 2011 at 7:54 pm
Who said Campbell’s proved himself to be a starter in this league? I guarantee you he starts nowhere if we part ways with him. I’ll bet you he’s out of the league.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:55 pm
Think of all the teams that need Q’s. Seattle, Miami, McCoy did not look all that good, Indy possibly, Denver possibly, and a few teams are starting rookies. Shoot, Campbell would be better than anything his Washington team has right now.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:55 pm
I thought Soup’s play was regressing.
His Pats game was bad. Texans was OK, but we really struggled in the first half, and his last pass had his HC irrate.
Browns game, he fumbled horribly 10 minutes before getting crushed and hurt.
Soup’s injury just saved him further embaressment.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:56 pm
La Milicia Negra Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 7:49 pm
Oak-Tone Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 7:43 pm
JC should be IR’d… We’re riding Palmer to the playoffs…
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dont you think he will, no reason to waste a spot on th 53man roster on a guy we cant use, even if Palmer goes down(which I wont, knock on wood, salt over shoulder). Campbell is out for at least 6-8 weeks, so he should be IR destined!
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Attorneys are writing up the IR paperwork now…
October 18th, 2011 at 7:56 pm
Pryor might fancy himself a quarterback, but he’ll be practicing a new position before the end of the year. Pryor was an Al pick, as was JC – and Hue couldn’t wait to kick him to the curb. He’ll do the same to Pryor as a QB.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:56 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 7:52 pm
scratch..skip……..scratch..skip……..scratch..skip…….scratch..skip
October 18th, 2011 at 7:56 pm
Watching press conference with Hue and Palmer. When Hue says he wants to thank the people involved for their help in the personnel decisions, the first person he names is Mark Davis, and says that Mark’s “on top of things”. Now are these the words of a man who answers to someone named Amy Trask?
October 18th, 2011 at 7:57 pm
I’m sure all of you have seen the 31 minute media conference with Carson Palmer, Hue Jackson and the various new reporters.
I would tend to believe that most of you liked what you saw in regard to coach and Carson Palmer. I surely did.
Palmer carried himself just right and gave all the appropriate responses. Wasn’t negative or too positive, wasn’t cocky or arrogant and seemed to feel
that he’ll be able to setup and do the job expected of him.
I also think he fully understands the price that was paid for him and the obligation that he has towards this team. I came away feeling that he’s going to give all he’s got to take this team to the promise land.
Any other thoughts from any of you who saw the interviews?
October 18th, 2011 at 7:58 pm
Shoot, Campbell would be better than anything his Washington team has right now.
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Campbell went 4-12 his last year there. 6-18 in his last 24 starts.
Skins may never have that bad of a stretch again in a long time.
All those other teams you mentioned, aren’t settling on Jason Campbell.
They will draft rookies.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:58 pm
Sullivan is so disliked people throw parties just so as not to invite him.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:58 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 7:51 pm
Campbell has proven he can be a starting Q in this league. No reason for him to back up anyone.
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This team will be better without him, just like the Redskins seem to be doing much better without him as well.
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Are you saying the Raiders are better with Boller? Or with Palmer? Palmer is a Pro Bowl, Heisman, overall number one. Not many of those around.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:59 pm
Sullivan44, Gradkowski can’t even beat out a rookie quarterback in Cincinnati.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:00 pm
I don’t care for Hue’s self-aggrandizing style, but at least he recognizes who has talent and doesn’t.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:00 pm
I’ll bet anyone here Campbell starts nowhere when he parts ways with Oakland. NOWHERE. I’ll bet you he’s not even second string. He’s talented, but he’s just not a quarterback. He can throw the ball, he just can’t pass. He can run, he just can’t scramble.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:01 pm
Are you saying the Raiders are better with Boller? Or with Palmer? Palmer is a Pro Bowl, Heisman, overall number one. Not many of those around.
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Not better with Boller, but certainly better with Palmer.
Wasn’t buying the “not much dropoff” with Boller hype.
He isn’t a #2, he should be a #3.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:01 pm
RaiderReggie Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 7:59 pm
Sullivan44, Gradkowski can’t even beat out a rookie quarterback in Cincinnati.
………..
Neither could Campbell on any team run by someone other than Al Davis.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:02 pm
I am Spartacus Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 7:56 pm
Pryor might fancy himself a quarterback, but he’ll be practicing a new position before the end of the year. Pryor was an Al pick, as was JC – and Hue couldn’t wait to kick him to the curb. He’ll do the same to Pryor as a QB
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Disagree, Hue loves players with unique skill sets, hell develop him the right way, as a QB.. The guy could be a stud i dont know why its even considerd to change his position
October 18th, 2011 at 8:03 pm
Oak-Tone Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 7:56 pm
La Milicia Negra Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 7:49 pm
Oak-Tone Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 7:43 pm
JC should be IR’d… We’re riding Palmer to the playoffs…
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dont you think he will, no reason to waste a spot on th 53man roster on a guy we cant use, even if Palmer goes down(which I wont, knock on wood, salt over shoulder). Campbell is out for at least 6-8 weeks, so he should be IR destined!
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Attorneys are writing up the IR paperwork now…
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yup!
October 18th, 2011 at 8:03 pm
Loius Murphy better stretch out those alligator arms the next time he comes close to a football, or he’s next on the chopping block.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:03 pm
@ 51 – like pryor
October 18th, 2011 at 8:05 pm
Wow, Vegas, you ass#ole, you just stole my thunder.
My sh;t’s more eloquent though.
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The NFL is a cut throat business. Not For Long, as they say. One play has made JC the captain of the up-and-coming Raiders to an afterthought on his way out the door.
And he was going all out, too. Came up short on a scramble and fumbled the ball to boot. So on the very next opportunity to show us the kind of year-to-year, week-to-week, play-to-play progress he’s capable of, he sacrifices himself – and ultimately his Raider career – trying to get the extra yard.
With that one play, he’s done. Hard to imagine what he’s feeling right now. Certainly wouldn’t want to be in Soup’s shoes.
Carson Palmer’s going to come in and win – there’s no doubt in my mind. He can take the team places that Jason can’t now and would have been a long shot to do so anyway.
But make no mistake, Campbell did an amazing thing for this team. He provided leadership and the utmost professionalism while wearing Silver and Black and honored the shield. Jason Campbell is one of the most significant Raider players in a decade, if not the most.
He bridged a gap. From the nightmare that JaMarcus Russell became and the not-ready-for-primetime Grakowski to respectability and most important — winning.
He swept the AFC West for us last year and was off to a solid start this year. He was becoming an expert at play action and a very effective game manager.
But he got hurt.
And Hue is a SHREWD mothaf*cker. Make no mistake. Essentially called Kyle Boller a disappointment as a first round pick, has made subtle, yet significant roster moves, with Boyd for Nduke, Groves for Curry, and now Palmer for Campbell. Yeah, Campbell, not Boller.
If there was real faith in JC, we would have rolled with Kyle and tried to scratch it out until Jason got back.
This was Hue’s opportunity to ugrade Campbell and he mortgaged the future to do it. Shrewd.
He looked a bit like Al Davis up there today. Looked like Vito handed the torch to Michael.
Maybe I’m reading in to it too much. Maybe he was just weary. But Hue’s got a look in his eye right now like he’s a bit drunk on powe and I think I dig it.
But I still feel for Jason. Good guy. He did for the QB position what Cable did for the head coach job.
Showed the team they could win. Got rid of as much dead weight as possible. Got rid of some major demons of the Silver and Black.
But ultimately, could be upgraded.
So, here’s my Not For Long salute to two very important bridges for our beloved Raiders. Important as they may have been, they will likely be footnotes, considered stop-gaps that laid the groundwork for what hopes to be a long string of Raider victories.
Thanks, Tom. Thanks, Jason.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:06 pm
Campbell was the first QB in a long time to QB us during a decent streak and he came in right away and went to work, so he gets much respect for all of that. He was a breath of fresh air in the wake of the Jamarcus Russell shart storm.
I wish him well in the future, but I am very happy that we have a QB who can put a team on his shoulders and win games for us if the opposition shuts down the run game. Campbell was unable to do that.
I hope Campbell finds another team in transition. Maybe back to Washington? They would probably regret letting him go with their QB play of late. Seattle might be another option. I am sure Cable could tell them Campbell is much better than Jackson.
Or he might get a temp job in Miami as they nurture along a young QB next year.
Not a lot of options, and if none of those work I am sure we would still love you as a backup QB.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:06 pm
Disagree, Hue loves players with unique skill sets, hell develop him the right way, as a QB.. The guy could be a stud i dont know why its even considerd to change his position
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Because he can’t throw?
October 18th, 2011 at 8:07 pm
Raiders=OPM(other people’s money)
Al never had nor Hue have a personal nickel invested-easy to roll like this
just win Baby!
October 18th, 2011 at 8:08 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:01 pm
Are you saying the Raiders are better with Boller? Or with Palmer? Palmer is a Pro Bowl, Heisman, overall number one. Not many of those around.
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Not better with Boller, but certainly better with Palmer.
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As you guys are starting to pick up, you NEED the marquee Q to win consistently in this league. Now that Peyton might not come back, after Rodgers, Brees, Rivers, Brady, Rothleisberger, you probably put a healthy Palmer right about here. Ahead of Ryan, Eli, Flacco, Schaub and Cun*ler.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:08 pm
Loius Murphy better stretch out those alligator arms the next time he comes close to a football, or he’s next on the chopping block.
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The guy gets his first run in a few months, coming back from an injury, and Soup hangs him out to dry over the middle on his first pass thrown to him.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:08 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 7:55 pm
I thought Soup’s play was regressing.
His Pats game was bad. Texans was OK, but we really struggled in the first half, and his last pass had his HC irrate.
Browns game, he fumbled horribly 10 minutes before getting crushed and hurt.
Soup’s injury just saved him further embaressment.
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I agree, I think I have just become so complacent with mediocrity and accepting those things at the Raider QB position. It’s like “oh sh!t he did that again, oh well par for the course. They can still win, maybe”.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:09 pm
@ 61 …
Weak son weak,
Hes a young guy that cleaned up the college game, and he can throw, they said the same thing about vick when he came in, and Newton … Until proven otherwise do not be so quick to judge.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:09 pm
Hue is a pimp!
Mark Purdy from the San Jose Mercury News (who sounds like a real tart by the way): “You said you thought this was the best trade in football. What do you think was the second best trade?”
HueJack: “I’ll let you know when we make it!”
Hahaha! How does it feel to get b1tch slapped, Purdy?!
October 18th, 2011 at 8:10 pm
Again, Campbell should have never been a lock at starter anyway. The only reason he didn’t have Gradkowski nipping at his heels was because the Raiders for reasons unknown just flat out let him go. Campbell didn’t lose his job fighting for an extra yard. A job he never should have had in the first place became available again. If anything, he was perhaps trying out for a starting NFL QB job by reaching for that last yard, like a 3rd string QB in the pre season. And…as you said, he got hurt. And what happens to a 3rd string QB that gets hurt in the preseason?
October 18th, 2011 at 8:10 pm
Ahead of Ryan, Eli, Flacco, Schaub and Cun*ler.
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Those are all Palmer’s peers. I put him definately ahead of Schaub and Flacoo, even with Ryan and Cutler and behind Eli.
Campbell’s peers were Orton, Sanchez, Henne and Matt Cassel.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:12 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:08 pm
Loius Murphy better stretch out those alligator arms the next time he comes close to a football, or he’s next on the chopping block.
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The guy gets his first run in a few months, coming back from an injury, and Soup hangs him out to dry over the middle on his first pass thrown to him.
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True…that’s an indictment on both of them. But Murphy had alligator arms last year, too.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:12 pm
The only reason he didn’t have Gradkowski nipping at his heels was because the Raiders for reasons unknown just flat out let him go.
pwhahaha they let him go cause he had a glass body, and couldnt see over the online..
October 18th, 2011 at 8:12 pm
hmm Schefter is now a Raider-man?
October 18th, 2011 at 8:14 pm
As much as I don’t like this trade and believe that Palmer won’t bring anything new to the table over Campbell I believe if the Raiders are to get the best out of him they need to start him right away against KC. It’s not like the Hue would be able to get him up to speed during the bye because of the new restrictions placed on bye week practices in the new CBA. Gotta get him a head start.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:14 pm
MR, I know you don’t like Soup. Scholarship thing? I get it. Thought maybe Grad could get it done — I did too.
Bottom line, Jason was very important in the maturation process.
Now, he’s been upgraded, presumably.
Tough league.
End of story.
Here’s to the era of CP3®.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:14 pm
Whatever the case, Blackmamba, Campbell’s job would not have been safe with Gradkowski here. As OC, Jackson replaced Campbell with Gradkowski a couple of times last season. So, the notion that Campbell lost a secure starting job on this one play is a bit of a stretch. It should have never really been his job.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:15 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:10 pm
Ahead of Ryan, Eli, Flacco, Schaub and Cun*ler.
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Those are all Palmer’s peers. I put him definately ahead of Schaub and Flacoo, even with Ryan and Cutler and behind Eli.
Campbell’s peers were Orton, Sanchez, Henne and Matt Cassel.
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JFB, do you go to games? I am really trying not to compare them to other players, I am really trying to compare them to themselves, based on seeing them live and breaking down their games. So this is not really a statistical comparison, it’s just a seymour b. comparison of who I would probably want to have if I could.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:16 pm
LA,
What is the “maturation process”?
October 18th, 2011 at 8:16 pm
Campbell had as much of a role in turning things around here as Tom Cable did.
They both were mass improvements from their predecessors, but both massively limited in their scope.
They got rid of Cable just in time, after he peaked, and they are doing the same with Soup.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:17 pm
Man, it just now occurred to me that clever CP3 thing is already in use. LOL.
Sorry, Chris.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:17 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:01 pm
RaiderReggie Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 7:59 pm
Sullivan44, Gradkowski can’t even beat out a rookie quarterback in Cincinnati.
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Neither could Campbell on any team run by someone other than Al Davis.
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Whoa, ease up there holmes. Soup is very….mediocre. Which means that while he’ll never compete at a high level, he’s better than the bottom teir QBs like Rex Grossman and Kerry Collins (this year). Washington would love to have him back if ole rat face can pull his head out of his a$$ and admit he made a mistake.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:18 pm
75.Sullivan44 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:14 pm
Whatever the case, Blackmamba, Campbell’s job would not have been safe with Gradkowski here. As OC, Jackson replaced Campbell with Gradkowski a couple of times last season. So, the notion that Campbell lost a secure starting job on this one play is a bit of a stretch. It should have never really been his job.
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i see what your saying but that was last year, they had progressed past Grads,to a stage where campbell had let them unbeaten in the Div, and started 4-2 with boller 2 and pryor 3, until the injury i think his job was complety secure.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:19 pm
Vegas, yezzir.
Exactly the way I see it.
MR,
Maturation. As in from mom’s basement, to one’s own apartment, to penthouse.
Russell-Grad/Campbell-Palmer
Kiffin-Cable-Jackson.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:19 pm
LOL at the thought of Gradkowski being a capable starter.
Keep clinging on to that 2009 game in Pittsburgh, chumps.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:19 pm
JFB, do you go to games?
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I have the Sunday ticket, and I seriously doubt anyone consumes more football on Sundays than me.
I got the split screen going, PIP, game mix, and a wicked sense of timing to avoid all commercials, lol.
Going to games gives you great perspective on one game, and one game only.
Not knocking your comparisions, just think Eli is a top 7 or 8 QB, and I can’t put Palmer there.
All the others you listed, are certainly debatable.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:19 pm
@ 66.
Pointless argument. He hasn’t proven anything in the NFL and if Palmer works out, he won’t get a chance to prove it for another five years.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:20 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:17 pm
Whoa, ease up there holmes. Soup is very….mediocre. Which means that while he’ll never compete at a high level, he’s better than the bottom teir QBs like Rex Grossman and Kerry Collins (this year). Washington would love to have him back if ole rat face can pull his head out of his a$$ and admit he made a mistake.
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I completely agree with this. Sometimes guys like Grossman come out and forget they suck until the 3rd or 4th week of the season. Or until some defensive coordinator remembers they have no game and how to defense them.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:20 pm
If they had “progressed passed Grads”, Jackson wouldn’t have had any reason to bench Campbell…for GRADS, nonetheless, now wouldn’t he mamba?
October 18th, 2011 at 8:20 pm
As in from mom’s basement, to one’s own apartment, to penthouse.
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LOL
October 18th, 2011 at 8:20 pm
La Milicia Negra Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 7:11 pm
Kirk Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 6:56 pm
363.Big Honkin Balls Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 6:51 pm
Al produced and left behind a three headed beast in Hue, Amy and Mark. Al knew what he was doing all along. Code Black.
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Now all we need is a good GM to work with them.
Man, that Cinci GM Mike Brown sure is a d!ck.
No wonder Palmer wanted out of that place.
He looks like the Bond villian Blofeld!
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I think Amy was behind this deal! there were reports yesterday that Hue Jackson’s relationship with the bengals was to hinder of the deal, had any other been our HC it would have happened earlier! I really think sympathy for Al and good work from Amy pulled this deal home!
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LMN – Untrue. Hue is best of friends with Mr. Brown of the Bengals. Hue used to be an Asst. coach there and supposedly left on very good terms. If anything, it was the Bengals HC that would have tried to hold up the deal. I don’t believe he did either because his new QB is doing just fine and the picks they will get will really help them in the future.
I’m sure Amy was deeply involved in the contractual things that had to be worked out but that’s about her only involvement other than rubber stamping the deal.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:21 pm
Grads is too fragile. He had much more fight in him than Soup but he just doesn’t have it in him for the long hall. A great off-the-bench spark.
Much better than JaPurpleDrank tho.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:21 pm
Fact: Jason Campbell was 11-7 as a Raider starting QB.
Thank you for that, JC.
I mean it. I’m a JC fan for life and I hope he does well wherever he ends up. Would love for him to stay on the team and push Palmer. He would be the best backup in football. As we can see now, that’s a tremendous asset to have.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:22 pm
LA, so Campbell is a step up from Gradkowski? Aren’t their career ratings about the same?
October 18th, 2011 at 8:23 pm
So. The more you think about it, the more sense the trade makes. This offense needs DMAC healthy, the Oline to keep the good work, the WRs to keep developing (way to go DHB!), and Palmer to play a little better than JCampbell. This should give us a top 10 Offense…No w if we could just trade the rest of the 2013 draft for a D Coord with a brain and fire Chuky B this team would be a beast!
If Hue really has as much clout as everybody thinks (exhibit A: Palmer trade) then Chucky B’s days are counted….nice!
October 18th, 2011 at 8:24 pm
Tricky70390 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:19 pm
LOL at the thought of Gradkowski being a capable starter.
Keep clinging on to that 2009 game in Pittsburgh, chumps.
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Is that directed at me or Hue Jackson?
October 18th, 2011 at 8:24 pm
I’m a JC fan for life and I hope he does well wherever he ends up.
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When we are pounding his head into the ground against his 3-8 Chiefs next year, I will remind you of this comment, lol.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:25 pm
If only science-experiment-gone-horribly-wrong Juice Campkowski worked out, we’d still have our #1s.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:25 pm
LA To TheBay Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:21 pm
Fact: Jason Campbell was 11-7 as a Raider starting QB.
Thank you for that, JC.
I mean it. I’m a JC fan for life and I hope he does well wherever he ends up. Would love for him to stay on the team and push Palmer. He would be the best backup in football. As we can see now, that’s a tremendous asset to have.
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The piling on Soup in here is a bit classless. Didn’t work out for him so folks with the “I-told-you-so” mentality now piling on. I’ll admit I was a critic of Soup but he made come good progress and while I still have no confidence in his ability to put the team on his shoulders, he was very serviceable.
A great backup, indeed. Would he stay?
October 18th, 2011 at 8:25 pm
Vegas, there was supposed to be a “*” in there somewhere, LOL!
October 18th, 2011 at 8:26 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:21 pm
Would love for him to stay on the team and push Palmer.
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Oh, so it’s good for Palmer to have a backup pushing him, but not for Jason to have Gradkowski pushing him?
October 18th, 2011 at 8:27 pm
I traded Soup in Madden 10 for Schaub (and also sent a #1 to them).
He was terrible his first year, then came into his own.
I’d like to see JC do well for himself on some East Coast NFC team that never plays the Raiders, or not often anyway.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:27 pm
The Raiders 2012 Draft picks…
1st Round-Carson Palmer
2nd Round-Stefan Wisniewski/Demarcus Van Dyke
3rd Round-Terrelle Pryor plus Compensatory Pick
4th Round-Jason Campbell
5th Round-Still Own Pick
6th Round-Still Own Pick
7th Round-Aaron Curry
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This is how you have to look at the draft next year, and I am sure that this is the way Hue looked at it as well.
When you look at it this way I believe that it was well worth it to acquire a Franchise QB who can make every throw on the field.
Go RAIDERS!!!!!!
October 18th, 2011 at 8:27 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:25 pm
The piling on Soup in here is a bit classless.
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You should see the piling on Gradkowski, even when he was still with the team.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:27 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:21 pm
Fact: Jason Campbell was 11-7 as a Raider starting QB.
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On a BAD Raider team developing a bunch of young players. That’s what I mean about Campbell being an NFL starting Q. Clearly he is not a “marquee” level player. Could he develop into one with consistency in systems and coaching and personnel? Something he has never had? Possibly but not probably.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:28 pm
MR, according to some people. Don’t think you ever caught me saying that.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:28 pm
Soup push Palmer? lol. Okay, I gave my props. Let’s not get carried away with Soup’d abilities.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:29 pm
paalmer WILL start~~~
October 18th, 2011 at 8:29 pm
SUNDAY!
October 18th, 2011 at 8:29 pm
I am Spartacus Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:19 pm
@ 66.
Pointless argument. He hasn’t proven anything in the NFL and if Palmer works out, he won’t get a chance to prove it for another five years
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So how do you know he cant throw in the NFL, like Newton couldnt, but evidently he can.. And what just happend to campbell ??anything can happen in the next 5 pal, Pryor will get a chance.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:30 pm
I’m all for Campbell backing up Palmer, because I don’t think Campbell would be a threat to Palmer’s job in the slightest. Contrast my comfort with the outright paranoia of people who wanted Gradkowski gone because his presence threatened Jason Campbell’s touchy little sensibilities.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:30 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:27 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:25 pm
The piling on Soup in here is a bit classless.
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You should see the piling on Gradkowski, even when he was still with the team.
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Never quite understood that either. There’s a guy that laid it all out for our team when called upon and people dog him? Yes, you’re right, also classless.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:32 pm
tis isnt high school -its biznass
October 18th, 2011 at 8:32 pm
I completely agree with this. Sometimes guys like Grossman come out and forget they suck until the 3rd or 4th week of the season.
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LOL!
October 18th, 2011 at 8:32 pm
Reality,
Just saying I’d like Soup to stay, that’s all. Don’t think he would beat Palmer, but you don’t want your guy getting complacent.
This is what separates the good ones from the mediocre ones. Campbell played a bit scared with Bruce hanging around. Got the most confident when he knew it was his team for certain.
The good ones just play at a level they know they can;t get beat out, know what I mean?
October 18th, 2011 at 8:33 pm
JC will be a starter again in this league somewhere.
Gradkowski will never start again.
That should elicit a response!
October 18th, 2011 at 8:33 pm
Contrast my comfort with the outright paranoia of people who wanted Gradkowski gone because his presence threatened Jason Campbell’s touchy little sensibilities.
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Absolutely fair.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:33 pm
Mike, people can hate Sapp all they want to, but he put it best: It’s not a family, it’s an army. That’s at least how the players deal with players being cut, etc.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:34 pm
mikeschoice Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:29 pm
paalmer WILL start~~~
SUNDAY
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Well, I think you will see Carson starting to hold a clipboard on Sunday. As for him starting for the Raiders at Q….expect the week after the bye. It’s the Kyle Boller show this Sunday. And Kyle is a better player than 90% of you are giving him credit for.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:34 pm
JC seems like he could have the same sort of role for a team like Seattle, SnB.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:34 pm
even if Soup played lights out in practice, Hue is going to live and die with Palmer. Its over for Soup. You dont give up 2 firsts to have somebody compete with a career passer rating of 80. Not Campbells fault, just that Hue understands that winning keeps you on the seat, so damnn everybody if it means winning.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:34 pm
Yeah, I know what you mean. I think Soup getting nervous is a bit indicative of his limitations.
I agree that I’d like Soup to stay though. Here’s a guy that, if we need to step in, can still lead us to victory (as long as our run game is on point).
October 18th, 2011 at 8:35 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:27 pm
The Raiders 2012 Draft picks…
1st Round-Carson Palmer
2nd Round-Stefan Wisniewski/Demarcus Van Dyke
3rd Round-Terrelle Pryor plus Compensatory Pick
4th Round-Jason Campbell
5th Round-Still Own Pick
6th Round-Still Own Pick
7th Round-Aaron Curry
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My apologies. I was wrong about the 2nd Rd. Picks….
This is the corrected list…
The Raiders 2012 Draft picks…
1st Round-Carson Palmer
2nd Round-Joseph Barksdale and Taiwan Jones
3rd Round-Terrelle Pryor plus Compensatory Pick
4th Round-Jason Campbell
5th Round-Still Own Pick
6th Round-Still Own Pick
7th Round-Aaron Curry
This is how you have to look at the draft next year, and I am sure that this is the way Hue looked at it as well. In fact it is VERY GOOD!
When you look at it this way I believe that it was well worth it to acquire a Franchise QB who can make every throw on the field.
Go RAIDERS!!!!!!
October 18th, 2011 at 8:35 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:33 pm
JC will be a starter again in this league somewhere.
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Let’s pretend he’s healthy and on the market, right now. What team signs him as a starter? We know Oakland’s out. lol.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:35 pm
87.Sullivan44 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:20 pm
If they had “progressed passed Grads”, Jackson wouldn’t have had any reason to bench Campbell…for GRADS, nonetheless, now wouldn’t he mamba?
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did they resign Grads, and let campbell go? or did they progress pass the fiasco that was the Bruce experiment, ultimatly agreeing campbell the number 1 going fwd?? SULLIVAN!!
October 18th, 2011 at 8:35 pm
If everything goes as planned by HueJack, the Coliseum can expect sellouts for the remainder if the year.
Oakland is back in the media headlines once again and not for bad reasons. It really looks like the Raiders are returning to their rightful position at the top of the heap.
All the pieces seem to be coming together. Too bad that Al Davis didn’t last a little longer to see it all come to fruition. This may end up as one of the most powerful Raider teams ever.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:36 pm
Agree with Boller. Looked really fast last week. Needs to get his timig down. Should do OK vs the Chiefs
October 18th, 2011 at 8:36 pm
Boller probably could have got us 2-3 or 3-2 with Campell out (assuming it’s 6 weeks).
He’s better than the blog gives him credit for, but that isn’t saying much.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:36 pm
What if it was 1-4 though?
October 18th, 2011 at 8:37 pm
122.Sullivan44 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:35 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:33 pm
JC will be a starter again in this league somewhere.
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Let’s pretend he’s healthy and on the market, right now. What team signs him as a starter? We know Oakland’s out. lol.
– seattle.. the raiders scrape heap..
October 18th, 2011 at 8:37 pm
So the 2013 pick is a 2nd rounder unless we reach the afc title game in either of the next two years. Seams damned reasonable to me. Palmer is certainly worth a first rounder, and if we are so good we reach the afc title game, then he has well earned an additional 1st rounder for the Bungholes.
Either way we will have either a first or second rounder in 2013 because we will not be able to trade them until we know if the contigency was met.
Hopefully we have a gm in place to save some of our future draft picks by then lol.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:37 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:21 pm
Fact: Jason Campbell was 11-7 as a Raider starting QB.
Thank you for that, JC.
I mean it. I’m a JC fan for life and I hope he does well wherever he ends up. Would love for him to stay on the team and push Palmer. He would be the best backup in football. As we can see now, that’s a tremendous asset to have.
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I support this post 100%. I too hope JC hangs on with the team.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:37 pm
I will give Campbell more credit off the field than on it, for moving this thing in the right direction.
The offseason workouts, his dedication to his craft, very straight-forward approach was probably such a welcome site to some of the other players who have been around a few years.
He just couldn’t get over that hump as a QB, and always seemed to miss opportunities and was constantly in a state of concussed.
Overthrowing than underthrowing wide-open WR’s, ALWAYS burning timeouts (2 on the first drive last week), crapping his pants everytime he went about 3 yards past the LOS, the thousand yard stares after taking a few hits, the brain farts at end of games and halves.
Not sure what it was with him, but his production never exceeded his talents.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:37 pm
Mamba, progress past Grads? Campbell’s hurt, and we had to trade 2 draft picks for a QB ….BECAUSE GRADS IS GONE! That’s not progress, that’s a mistake!
October 18th, 2011 at 8:38 pm
Well, I would like to say thanks to JC for the heart and soul that he was able to bring us back to respectable! Now its time to move forward! Can Carson Palmer get this done? That remains to be seen, but Hue had to do something…really? Ride the plain with Boller until Campbell comes back? Never an option!
If JC accepts this, I would love to keep him here as a backup because he DOES know the system! He he chooses otherwise…I will wish him well! And thank him for bringing us to this point!
October 18th, 2011 at 8:38 pm
122.Sullivan44 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:35 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:33 pm
JC will be a starter again in this league somewhere.
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Let’s pretend he’s healthy and on the market, right now. What team signs him as a starter? We know Oakland’s out. lol.
+++++++++
Like I said, Washington, Seattle and Miami are about his only options going into next year barring injuries of course.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:40 pm
Seattle would be a maybe for Campbell starting. If anyone here is certain Campbell will start again in this league, surely you can come up with more teams than Seattle, which, again, is a maybe.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:40 pm
If we make the AFC championship game, that late first-rounder will be like a 2nd rounder for us most years.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:41 pm
LOL that the Palmer trade had anything to do with Gradkowski. Who’s that? MR?
October 18th, 2011 at 8:41 pm
For those of you that wanted Gradkowski gone, just know now that him being gone is the reason we had to kill 2 draft picks to bring in Carson Palmer. I guarantee if you Gradkowski were still here, Hue would roll the dice with him. I base this on the fact that Hue subbed Grads in for Campbell at least twice last year.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:41 pm
Yup, VR.
Always text my boy
“ceremonial JC timeout — check”
Averaged about 1.5 per start it seems.
But in fairness, it may have eliminated 1.5 turnovers per start too. I saw a number of good plays out of those timeouts.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:42 pm
JB Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:35 pm
If everything goes as planned by HueJack, the Coliseum can expect sellouts for the remainder if the year.
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Count me in.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:42 pm
Sullivan – the club is much better off for the chain of events since dismising the giordano lookalike to the bengals.. Just be thankful, have a some faith lil fella..
October 18th, 2011 at 8:43 pm
LA To TheBay Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:41 pm
Yup, VR.
Always text my boy
“ceremonial JC timeout — check”
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LMAO! So true…
October 18th, 2011 at 8:43 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:37 pm
Mamba, progress past Grads? Campbell’s hurt, and we had to trade 2 draft picks for a QB ….BECAUSE GRADS IS GONE! That’s not progress, that’s a mistake!
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This is crazy? Palmer, if completely recovered, is 100x the QB that Gradkowski is and is better than JC.
That is progress!
October 18th, 2011 at 8:43 pm
Carson Palmer & McFadden will be stars in LA in 2 years.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:43 pm
135.Sullivan44 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:40 pm
Seattle would be a maybe for Campbell starting. If anyone here is certain Campbell will start again in this league, surely you can come up with more teams than Seattle, which, again, is a maybe.
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im unsure of who he would START for if not seattle, but he wont be out of the league, and who knows what sitation presents itself off season..
October 18th, 2011 at 8:43 pm
mamba, that chain of events would culminate in Campbell crushing his shoulder, and us having NOBODY to back him up, because BRUCE IS GONE! Again, that’s not progress. You can’t say you’re over someone when you could clearly still use them.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:44 pm
LA,
Thankfully, other than the Jax game last year, the timeout issue never came to a head in an important game.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:44 pm
JB Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:20 pm
La Milicia Negra Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 7:11 pm
Kirk Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 6:56 pm
363.Big Honkin Balls Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 6:51 pm
Al produced and left behind a three headed beast in Hue, Amy and Mark. Al knew what he was doing all along. Code Black.
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Now all we need is a good GM to work with them.
Man, that Cinci GM Mike Brown sure is a d!ck.
No wonder Palmer wanted out of that place.
He looks like the Bond villian Blofeld!
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I think Amy was behind this deal! there were reports yesterday that Hue Jackson’s relationship with the bengals was to hinder of the deal, had any other been our HC it would have happened earlier! I really think sympathy for Al and good work from Amy pulled this deal home!
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LMN – Untrue. Hue is best of friends with Mr. Brown of the Bengals. Hue used to be an Asst. coach there and supposedly left on very good terms. If anything, it was the Bengals HC that would have tried to hold up the deal. I don’t believe he did either because his new QB is doing just fine and the picks they will get will really help them in the future.
I’m sure Amy was deeply involved in the contractual things that had to be worked out but that’s about her only involvement other than rubber stamping the deal.
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well, thats not what I have heard, “Mr. Brown” and Hue did NOT end on good terms, thats maybe how it is as of today, but as of yesterday it wasnt. Hue was let go, and Hue was not fond of it! “Mr. Brown” hates Palmer and wouldnt give him a situation where he could thrive, he knew he would that in the hands of Hue!
it would be easy to assume its Hue’s deal because he worked for “Mr. Brown” but how many deals did Denver and Raiders when Shana was HC there? I will believe till the day I die, Amy Trask was the engineer on this deal! Hue of course wanted it, he wanted it bad, and told Marky Davis and Amy Traks. Trask made it happen, she fulfilled Hue’s wishes!
I know many here hates Amy, I guess its because she is a woman, but she is helluva operator! to make sense of Al the chaos Al had going day in and day out for several years you need to be smart! Al loved her capabilities, otherwise she would have pushed out the door, years ago!
October 18th, 2011 at 8:44 pm
Progress is changing 60% of the O line and getting better, immediatly! thats some progress right there
October 18th, 2011 at 8:44 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:41 pm
For those of you that wanted Gradkowski gone, just know now that him being gone is the reason we had to kill 2 draft picks to bring in Carson Palmer. I guarantee if you Gradkowski were still here, Hue would roll the dice with him.
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2 Weeks later he would join JC on IR
October 18th, 2011 at 8:45 pm
And if Grads plays superman again and slams into a D Lineman…then what? Trade deadline passed…then we really wasted an opportunity!
But hey, I liked Grads…loved his heart and determination, but I don’t think we would have gone far! Just my opinion!
October 18th, 2011 at 8:45 pm
I see JC getting a chance to compete in Miami or Seattle and don’t rule out Denver.
Also, just like an injury took JCs starting job, another injury somewhere else will get him a shot.
Despite the hatred from the Nation, the man did win 11 games and gave the Raider offense some life.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:46 pm
Dakota Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:38 pm
Like I said, Washington, Seattle and Miami are about his only options going into next year barring injuries of course.
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Minn, Cinci-crappy, Joke-sonville are all starting rookies, any of which could flame out faster than Alex7, er, Sullivan, er, what name is MR posting under right now????
October 18th, 2011 at 8:46 pm
Dakota, with Al gone opportunities are now open for Mark to either get a stadium in the bay, maybe even Oakland, or move to LA. Al was the one thing standing in the way of both. We’ll see. I personally think Mark will keep the team in the bay. That whole lust for LA was an Al thing.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:46 pm
Dakota Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:43 pm
Carson Palmer & McFadden will be stars in LA in 2 years.
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You think we trade them to the Chargers?
October 18th, 2011 at 8:46 pm
Two number # 1 picks for a playoff win and maybe more…I’ll take that any day. Just like Rakim said “It’s been a long time”
October 18th, 2011 at 8:46 pm
One thing that has gone largley unoticed is Ndukwe (sp?).
That guy was looking great as a rook, 2nd year guy and kind of fell off after Cincy switched DC’s (from Bresh to Zimmer, who is better, but I guess Duke not a system fit, injury?)
He’s gonna take over Boyd’s roll and appears to be an instant upgrade.
Curry on a seek and destroy mission. McClain ending up near or on top of the ball carrier everytime he was near him.
We on the right track.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:46 pm
I recall a team giving up two 1st rounders and two 2nd rounders for a damned head coach!
Got them a SB! The other team squandered the bounty in pathetic fashion and set their franchise back for years…can’t remember what team that was….
October 18th, 2011 at 8:47 pm
I thought Campbell looked A LOT better than Colt McCoy did, honestly.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:47 pm
My God man thats like saying grads>palmer.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:47 pm
Dakota Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:43 pm
Carson Palmer & McFadden will be stars in LA in 2 years.
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You’re delusional.
The Raiders will be in Santa Clara sharing the new facility with the 49ers before that happens…
October 18th, 2011 at 8:47 pm
The root of the disdain for JC has to be that Gradkowski got put on the road.
I hope you all can let that go and get behind THIS QB….
LOL
October 18th, 2011 at 8:47 pm
And if Grads plays superman again and slams into a D Lineman…then what?
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LOL. One thing’s for sure. Dude had a steel pair. Just not always right in the head.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:47 pm
153.Seymour Bush Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:46 pm
Dakota Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:38 pm
Like I said, Washington, Seattle and Miami are about his only options going into next year barring injuries of course.
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Minn, Cinci-crappy, Joke-sonville are all starting rookies, any of which could flame out faster than Alex7, er, Sullivan, er, what name is MR posting under right now????
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None of those teams will give up on a rookie QB by next year.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:48 pm
Dakota Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:38 pm
122.Sullivan44 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:35 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:33 pm
JC will be a starter again in this league somewhere.
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Let’s pretend he’s healthy and on the market, right now. What team signs him as a starter? We know Oakland’s out. lol.
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Like I said, Washington, Seattle and Miami are about his only options going into next year barring injuries of course.
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Scratch Miami from that list as they will get Luck from next years draft.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:49 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:46 pm
Dakota, with Al gone opportunities are now open for Mark to either get a stadium in the bay, maybe even Oakland, or move to LA. Al was the one thing standing in the way of both. We’ll see. I personally think Mark will keep the team in the bay. That whole lust for LA was an Al thing.
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I was born and raised in mid city l.a ( ten mins from coliseum) The Raiders belong in Oakland. ( love my trips to the bay)
October 18th, 2011 at 8:49 pm
Dakota, didn’t Mark Davis grow up in the bay area? He doesn’t strike me as an LA type. Typically they’re plastic surgery junkies, always trying to mingle with celebs. I don’t see that in Mark. We saw it with Al, always schmoozing with Jack, James Garner…heck Al was a regular at the Forum Laker games. Don’t see it in Mark. I think he’s 100% bay. He just has that down to earth, bay area look.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:50 pm
I am just coming to the realization that this was good for us. With Palmer we have a window of 5 years to win the SB. We have young emerging stars, vet leadership, great coaching, and management that will not mingle with coaching. 10 years from now we will be talking about the collar bone that won us 2 Super Bowls.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:50 pm
SharkCatcher Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:49 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:46 pm
Dakota, with Al gone opportunities are now open for Mark to either get a stadium in the bay, maybe even Oakland, or move to LA. Al was the one thing standing in the way of both. We’ll see. I personally think Mark will keep the team in the bay. That whole lust for LA was an Al thing.
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I was born and raised in mid city l.a ( ten mins from coliseum) The Raiders belong in Oakland. ( love my trips to the bay)
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Word!
October 18th, 2011 at 8:50 pm
Vegas, is that the one where he dodged a bullet after calling a timeout after calling a timeout?
Man he got lucky. The refs just looked puzzled and kind of let play go on, like they didn’t know the rule either, LOL.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:50 pm
Can’t help but to feel bad for Soup. He did work his ars off an tried to be great qb for this team. However I’m happier with the outcome. I’d like to somehow see campbell as our back-up and can boller. Having palmer thro 2014 is great for pryor too. Won’t have to worry about putting him on the field too soon. He needs to be sitting back there soaking info like a sponge
October 18th, 2011 at 8:50 pm
Dakota – Your LA fantasy died over a week ago.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:51 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:47 pm
I thought Campbell looked A LOT better than Colt McCoy did, honestly.
I agree! But he is supposed to! Campbell did good here, I am not and neither should any of us deny that! I believe that everything happens for a reason, it just awful that someone had to get hurt, in probably more ways than one!
JC was a class act for the Raiders and I hope he knows that IF we hoist the Lombardi that he was also and integral part of reaching that goal!
October 18th, 2011 at 8:51 pm
I keep telling you guys, The Raiders are not going to LA. The Dischargers are. It’s a done deal. It’s been a done deal for three years.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:51 pm
Dakota is delusional…Knows absolutely nothing about Cali as a whole or the Bay.
Just spewing nonsense…
October 18th, 2011 at 8:51 pm
I’m from LA and the Raiders home is Oakland!
October 18th, 2011 at 8:52 pm
I was born and raised in mid city l.a ( ten mins from coliseum) The Raiders belong in Oakland. ( love my trips to the bay)
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Exactly.
Was happy for them being in LA, sad to see them go, but they went home as far as I’m concerned.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:52 pm
Everyone has been saying they wanted to see this team give the HC control.
Hue Jackson never wanted Jason Campbell. Read the reports about Palmer. Hue was trying to get Al to pull the trigger for him before the season started.
Hue has been in contact with Palmer through the people Palmer has been training with.
Hue got the guy HE wanted. Campbell was Al’s guy. Hue told to win with players Al gave him just like every other coach under Al.
The injury gave Hue the leverage he needed to convince Mark & Amy to make the deal.
Sorry Jason, but that is the way this business goes. Just like Curry replacing Groves, Moore and Ford replacing Murphy and Schilens, and so on and so on…
October 18th, 2011 at 8:52 pm
I hate to sound this way, but with Al out of the picture, the Raiders may not even need to settle for sharing a stadium with the Niners. That was our best option when Al was in charge. This changes things. For better or worse, a lot of people were afraid of doing business with Al. You don’t have that stigma anymore. Again, not to sound cruel and dance on his grave. It’s just the truth, from a business standpoint. It’s not impossible for Mark to get his own state of the art venue in the east bay now.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:52 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:46 pm
Dakota Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:43 pm
Carson Palmer & McFadden will be stars in LA in 2 years.
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You think we trade them to the Chargers?
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Haahhahha good stuff!
October 18th, 2011 at 8:52 pm
Devilr8er Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:51 pm
I’m from LA and the Raiders home is Oakland!
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Word!
October 18th, 2011 at 8:53 pm
Sully I read Mark graduated from Cal-state Chico. That is not typical of of a person who loves the lights of LA.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:53 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:51 pm
I keep telling you guys, The Raiders are not going to LA. The Dischargers are. It’s a done deal. It’s been a done deal for three years.
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I’m going to be one of those guys that hates his hometown team. lol
October 18th, 2011 at 8:53 pm
146.Sullivan44 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:43 pm
mamba, that chain of events would culminate in Campbell crushing his shoulder, and us having NOBODY to back him up, because BRUCE IS GONE! Again, that’s not progress. You can’t say you’re over someone when you could clearly still use them.
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yes and us having no one meant we went out and got a QB that might just put us over the top, something grad would no nothing about due to being 5ft2
October 18th, 2011 at 8:54 pm
Good night Gents!
I better crawl into bed now.
Take care Y’all!
October 18th, 2011 at 8:54 pm
Each time Gradkowski was given the keys he did nothing.
Choked it up in Arizona (should have never got to the part where Janikowski was needed)
Houston game I’ll give him because the receivers dropped a lot of balls and the run defense was pitiful
Miami was just sad. Wobbly duck after wobbly duck being thrown up for grabs in the area of Miami’s DBs.
But like I said, keep clinging on to the time he was subbed in during week 2 and that PIT game in 2009. Knowing full well that Campbell did more with his chances.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:54 pm
You guys are wayyy too generous with JC. Only with the Raiders, did JC get handed his starting gig because of Al. I doubt any team out there except maybe a bottom feeder team like Mia that will give JC a shot at babysitting a young QB. His career is now as a backup role and this offseason will prove it so.
This past offseason Al backed off of the Plunkett claim. Greg Papa pretty much revealed this morning that they were looking at Palmer already but Al was waiting for the price to drop. VY was another option that Al liked. Then Al proceeded to drafting Pryor with a higher slot than he gave for JC. Would Al have a long term plan with JC when he drafted Pryor?
Marvin Lewis admitted today that Hue has been after Palmer for “quite a bit”. If couch potatoes like us can see that JC can’t carry the team, I am certain professional evaluators will tear him apart on film.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:54 pm
167.Sullivan44 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:49 pm
Dakota, didn’t Mark Davis grow up in the bay area? He doesn’t strike me as an LA type. Typically they’re plastic surgery junkies, always trying to mingle with celebs. I don’t see that in Mark. We saw it with Al, always schmoozing with Jack, James Garner…heck Al was a regular at the Forum Laker games. Don’t see it in Mark. I think he’s 100% bay. He just has that down to earth, bay area look.
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I don’t know that you can tell much by his looks, and I am sure he spent some of his formative years in L.A.
I really hoped that Mark would make an appearance at the presser today. Would love to hear him speak. It only takes about 5 minutes of listening to a person speak to make a decent judgment on their intelligence.
I had Cable pegged as a dumb fk in about 2 minutes.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:54 pm
Carson Palmer = TICKET Sales.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:54 pm
devilr8er Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:50 pm
I am just coming to the realization that this was good for us. With Palmer we have a window of 5 years to win the SB. We have young emerging stars, vet leadership, great coaching, and management that will not mingle with coaching. 10 years from now we will be talking about the collar bone that won us 2 Super Bowls.
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Maybe 3 Super Bowls! The only thing I see effing this up is if Raider fan turns on Palmer before he can get his feet wet and his timing with the receivers down. I mean there are some pretty stupid Raider fans out there (See Brown, Jamista).
October 18th, 2011 at 8:54 pm
Shark, there’s always sportsbars and flights to the bay area.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:56 pm
Otis, Chico state? Yeah, that’s definitely more bay area than L.A.. And he must have went to Chico when it was a massive party school. Playboy Magazine ranked the best party schools in the country back in the ’80s and Chico was ranked numero uno….above Miami U, which was in second! Miami U in the ’80s was right in the middle of a cocaine hub and was a non stop orgy. Playboy ranked Chico higher. lol.
Anyhow, Mark just looks bay area. Look at Tom Hanks, one of the few Hollywood types who’s down to earth and isn’t totally fake like other celebs. Where’s he from? That’s my point.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:56 pm
See ya, LMN
October 18th, 2011 at 8:56 pm
I’m new to this blog and i want to give you a little background. I’m a female, 55 years old and recently retired. At 19, i was “forced” to watch the Pitt-Raider game in which the ball bounced into Harris’s hands and we lost the game. I was forever addicted. When the Raiders won the Superbowl against Philly, I forced my way thru the police cordon to kiss John Matuszak at the parade in Oakland. It was raining and i had a red umbrella, it was on the news that night. Soon after, my sister and I went to “family day” at Sonoma and afterwards went to the “boo room” where we enjoyed beers with Ted Hendricks, Mark Van Eeghan, Gene Upshaw, Art Shell, etc. We actually sat at their table. No, I was not a groupie, although i did dance once with Lester Hayes. I was so totally in love with “the tooz.” I served a stint with the feds in Germany and so missed the win in L.A. After returning to CA in 90’s I haven’t missed a game, going to sports bars if the game wasn’t on T.V. I grew up in the bay area but moved to San Diego in 1990 with my job. In 2002, i caught a break because i actually worked with one of the NFL refs and he sold me tickets to the superbowl for $400 apiece. Every year, I live and die with the success of the Raiders. During the snowbowl, i broke two plastic deck chairs throwing myself down in disgust. I am not an expert in football, just a die-hard Raiders fan that used to be a member of the oakland raiders fan club. I love this blog and I’m as excited as I’ve been the last 10 years. Go Raiders and all the luck to Carson Palmer and Hue Jackson!
October 18th, 2011 at 8:56 pm
I know you guys love the Raiders in Oakland, but you guys can’t sell out the games without 2 for 1 deals and free ticket giveaways, plus the stadium is old and dirty. (According to some friends of mine who have been there)
These things will have to change or the team will move. Its just business.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:56 pm
I’ve driven up for 3 games this season. jets-pats-browns.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:57 pm
Shark you going to any more games ?
October 18th, 2011 at 8:58 pm
SharkCatcher Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:54 pm
Carson Palmer = TICKET Sales
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+ Merchandise. I bet you there will be a ton of #3 sold and worn at the game vs #8. #8 was never even the Raiders site. I am 100% certain #3 will be on there within 2 weeks.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:58 pm
172.Try Some Reality Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:50 pm
Dakota – Your LA fantasy died over a week ago.
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Au contraire…..I think the chances of us moving to LA doubled about 10 days ago. No one wanted to deal with Al in LA, but Mark is a different story.
Plus, we can see that Mark can be talked into major decisions in less than 48 hours by the way he allowed this Palmer trade to go through. Get a slick talker in from LA and he might sign the paperwork before Amy can even get into the room….
October 18th, 2011 at 8:58 pm
The one thing about the Oaktown is that its looking more and more like downtown sisco. It’s not all hood like some of ya think.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:58 pm
I had Cable pegged as a dumb fk in about 2 minutes.
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LOL. Never was much of a fan.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:59 pm
Otis60 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:57 pm
Shark you going to any more games ?
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Lions and Chargers.. If I didnt have to get wifey something nice for x-mas i’d try to make it to every game.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:59 pm
The Bengles get two 32 overall picks.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:59 pm
Welcome TheToozFan55
October 18th, 2011 at 8:59 pm
Hey…have you seen Candlesh*T? LOL…we got it good here in the Town…
October 18th, 2011 at 9:00 pm
For the detractors of what JC did the last 18 games.
If this team was not as competitive as it is…there is no move for Palmer, there are no dreams of playoffs and gasp…a deep playoff run/super bowl.
you all forget the absolute QB wilderness that was Oakland. Someone got these YOUNG receivers up to speed and confidence….JC co-lead with Seymour over the summer and set an EXCELLENT example of how to work hard and diligently.
Was he an elite QB? Nope. Never said as much…but let’s not dump on the guy. This team was playoff bound with JC at the helm…a bad injury set him back and it was dumb luck that Carson Palmer was in limbo
JC gets my respect
October 18th, 2011 at 9:00 pm
Welcome, TheToozFan55!!!
October 18th, 2011 at 9:00 pm
Last year we attended Raiders at San Diego and went up for the last game of year – Colts at Raiders. My husband was disgusted that people were smoking pot in the bathroom. We had good seats for the game in oakland and it made me realize that good seats are a must for these games. No more nosebleeders for us! We have seats at the 45 yard line 23 rows up for the game Nov. 10th! My 16 year old son and i are going. I have no idea how he became a Raider fan since the Raiders have been crappy the last 9 years, but somehow he is.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:00 pm
Going to charger game in sd also Nose Bleed section about 12 deep.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:01 pm
Magic Johnson, who is involved with the stadium effort in LA, being at 2 Raider home games is no coincidence
October 18th, 2011 at 9:01 pm
wasbanned Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:52 pm
Everyone has been saying they wanted to see this team give the HC control.
Hue Jackson never wanted Jason Campbell. Read the reports about Palmer. Hue was trying to get Al to pull the trigger for him before the season started.
Hue has been in contact with Palmer through the people Palmer has been training with.
Hue got the guy HE wanted. Campbell was Al’s guy. Hue told to win with players Al gave him just like every other coach under Al.
The injury gave Hue the leverage he needed to convince Mark & Amy to make the deal.
Sorry Jason, but that is the way this business goes. Just like Curry replacing Groves, Moore and Ford replacing Murphy and Schilens, and so on and so on…
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In the huddle, Raiders starting QB Jason Campbell hears the mic in his headset crackle. It’s Head Coach Hue Jackson on the other side.
HUE: I don’t care what defense they’re in just SLIDE, Jason.
Jason takes a quick glance over to the sideline as if to say “you sure?”
Hue winks at him. In hindsight, Jason may think it an ominous wink.
Campbell’s now in the thick of it with defenders all around him, attempting to collapse the pocket.
He charges hard and gives up his body for the first down but above the roaring crowd, all he hears is “CRACK.”
Campbell’s Raider career effectively over, Coach Jackson takes a page out of his old South C playbook when he artfully slides Browns LB Scott Fujita a wad of C notes in the postgame shuffle and says “thanks, son.”
October 18th, 2011 at 9:01 pm
PEOPLE around here forget that JaBust, McCown, Culpepper et..al have ben quarterbacking the last upteen years
Thanks JC for bringing sanity to this offense
October 18th, 2011 at 9:02 pm
Unless San Diego builds a new stadium I think the Chargers are going to LA. There on television in the LA market so much it seems the networks are already making them the defacto LA team.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:02 pm
severeraiderz Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:01 pm
Magic Johnson, who is involved with the stadium effort in LA, being at 2 Raider home games is no coincidence
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he’s been going to games since the showtime era.True RAIDERS fan
October 18th, 2011 at 9:02 pm
The Raiders are the better team, but don’t take the chefs lightly. We need to go out focused and determined. Raiders 27 chefs 13
October 18th, 2011 at 9:02 pm
When you go to Oakland you see a far different city than what’s on the news. The news only shows you the deep east and the old run down west Oakland. East Oakland is a large area and it is extremely impoverished. But it’s almost as if they don’t want you to know about the hills, Broadway, Jack London… You have to go to Oakland to see that. On the news, it’s all bad.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:02 pm
We have gone from JaMarcus to Palmer.
Pretty good if you ask me.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:02 pm
206.SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:00 pm
For the detractors of what JC did the last 18 games.
If this team was not as competitive as it is…there is no move for Palmer, there are no dreams of playoffs and gasp…a deep playoff run/super bowl.
you all forget the absolute QB wilderness that was Oakland. Someone got these YOUNG receivers up to speed and confidence….JC co-lead with Seymour over the summer and set an EXCELLENT example of how to work hard and diligently.
Was he an elite QB? Nope. Never said as much…but let’s not dump on the guy. This team was playoff bound with JC at the helm…a bad injury set him back and it was dumb luck that Carson Palmer was in limbo
JC gets my respect
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well said homie !!!
October 18th, 2011 at 9:03 pm
175.ArmChair GM Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:51 pm
Dakota is delusional…Knows absolutely nothing about Cali as a whole or the Bay.
Just spewing nonsense…
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lol I have family in both San Carlos and Fallbrook near San Diego. I visit them frequently. I’ve been to the Coliseum…..not impressed.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:03 pm
SnB Offense Defense Specialteams Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:00 pm
For the detractors of what JC did the last 18 games.
If this team was not as competitive as it is…there is no move for Palmer, there are no dreams of playoffs and gasp…a deep playoff run/super bowl.
you all forget the absolute QB wilderness that was Oakland. Someone got these YOUNG receivers up to speed and confidence….JC co-lead with Seymour over the summer and set an EXCELLENT example of how to work hard and diligently.
Was he an elite QB? Nope. Never said as much…but let’s not dump on the guy. This team was playoff bound with JC at the helm…a bad injury set him back and it was dumb luck that Carson Palmer was in limbo
JC gets my respect
He gets mine too! He got us to where we are now…with a chance at football in January since 2002/2003 season!
October 18th, 2011 at 9:03 pm
TheToozFan55 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:56 pm
I’m new to this blog and i want to give you a little background. I’m a female, 55 years old and recently retired. At 19, i was “forced” to watch the Pitt-Raider game in which the ball bounced into Harris’s hands and we lost the game. I was forever addicted. When the Raiders won the Superbowl against Philly, I forced my way thru the police cordon to kiss John Matuszak at the parade in Oakland. It was raining and i had a red umbrella, it was on the news that night. Soon after, my sister and I went to “family day” at Sonoma and afterwards went to the “boo room” where we enjoyed beers with Ted Hendricks, Mark Van Eeghan, Gene Upshaw, Art Shell, etc. We actually sat at their table. No, I was not a groupie, although i did dance once with Lester Hayes. I was so totally in love with “the tooz.” I served a stint with the feds in Germany and so missed the win in L.A. After returning to CA in 90’s I haven’t missed a game, going to sports bars if the game wasn’t on T.V. I grew up in the bay area but moved to San Diego in 1990 with my job. In 2002, i caught a break because i actually worked with one of the NFL refs and he sold me tickets to the superbowl for $400 apiece. Every year, I live and die with the success of the Raiders. During the snowbowl, i broke two plastic deck chairs throwing myself down in disgust. I am not an expert in football, just a die-hard Raiders fan that used to be a member of the oakland raiders fan club. I love this blog and I’m as excited as I’ve been the last 10 years. Go Raiders and all the luck to Carson Palmer and Hue Jackson!
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Welcome ToozFan!
You are a true Raider. Unlike haters like MR aka Sullivan44 or whatever personality disorder he is identifying with this week.
You are one of the reasons why we are forever proud to be RAIDERS!!!!
October 18th, 2011 at 9:03 pm
Otis60 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:02 pm
Unless San Diego builds a new stadium I think the Chargers are going to LA. There on television in the LA market so much it seems the networks are already making them the defacto LA team.
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Channel 2 loves the punk ass chargers
October 18th, 2011 at 9:03 pm
JC also has my respect and I wish him well. Truth is I was content with a game manager, but in all reality that will only get to the playoffs and we are one and done. Palmer is a game changer, there is less pressure on DMAC, he doesn’t have to take as much punishment. With Palmer we are looking into deep playoff runs and Super Bowls. Now lets fix this secondary!
October 18th, 2011 at 9:03 pm
Our team won with Kyle effin Boller. Jeez, imagine if JC finished the game last Sunday, his propagandist would have been in here bragging about how he overcame adversity. Kyle Boller stunk up the joint and we still won. The game was never in doubt except for the successful onside kick. What does that tell you?
Crap, maybe I should be touting Boller’s greatness and leadership for overcoming a lack of reps and adversities.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:04 pm
I feel comfortable knowing the LA decisions is in Mark’s hands, now. That’s for sure. Because I don’t see anything LA about this guy. Magic is just going to have to focus on his Lakers.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:04 pm
Wasbanned Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:56 pm
I know you guys love the Raiders in Oakland, but you guys can’t sell out the games without 2 for 1 deals and free ticket giveaways, plus the stadium is old and dirty. (According to some friends of mine who have been there)
These things will have to change or the team will move. Its just business.
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Old and dirty? A bit old, yes. Dirty? Nope. This isn’t Candlestick. It’s not even that bad of a stadium. Much better than the 9ers dilapidated place. But it is time for a new one. Mt. Davis was a bad idea. NOBODY wants to sit up there. Well, maybe except for the crackheads that don’t know jack about football.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:05 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:51 pm
I keep telling you guys, The Raiders are not going to LA. The Dischargers are. It’s a done deal. It’s been a done deal for three years.
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If they moved to LA they’d have to move Al too. That’s not likely happening so Oakland will be the rightful home of the Oakland Raiders. Besides, his gas touch is not mobile. LOL
October 18th, 2011 at 9:05 pm
Aig-Raiders Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:03 pm
Our team won with Kyle effin Boller. Jeez, imagine if JC finished the game last Sunday, his propagandist would have been in here bragging about how he overcame adversity. Kyle Boller stunk up the joint and we still won. The game was never in doubt except for the successful onside kick. What does that tell you?
Crap, maybe I should be touting Boller’s greatness and leadership for overcoming a lack of reps and adversities.
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ROFL! I know who you speak of…lol
October 18th, 2011 at 9:05 pm
Shark, fellow SoCal fan. I’ll be at the Broncos, Lions and Chargers. I’m trying to have my cousin get some game tickets for the road game in SD. He can usually get good seats.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:05 pm
Dakota Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:03 pm
lol I have family in both San Carlos and Fallbrook near San Diego. I visit them frequently. I’ve been to the Coliseum…..not impressed.
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Rotflmao…
Yeah and I’m an expert on Native American culture and history because I saw a Longhouse and a teepee on TV once.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:05 pm
TheToozFan55 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:56 pm
Every year, I live and die with the success of the Raiders. During the snowbowl, i broke two plastic deck chairs throwing myself down in disgust.
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My new best friend. Welcome.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:06 pm
Dakota
Exactly plus if Al moves the team to LA he gets major criticism, if Mark does it folks will see it as a change of scenery and changing of the guard. Mark enjoyed some prime years in LA, Hue is an LA guy, as is Palmer. La offers much more economically to this newly rejuvenated team
October 18th, 2011 at 9:07 pm
Dakota Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:58 pm
172.Try Some Reality Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:50 pm
Dakota – Your LA fantasy died over a week ago.
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Au contraire…..I think the chances of us moving to LA doubled about 10 days ago. No one wanted to deal with Al in LA, but Mark is a different story.
Plus, we can see that Mark can be talked into major decisions in less than 48 hours by the way he allowed this Palmer trade to go through. Get a slick talker in from LA and he might sign the paperwork before Amy can even get into the room….
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Mark ain’t gonna let it happen, Amy ain’t gonna let it happen and I can guarantee Al or no Al, the City and County of Los Angeles SURE AS HELL, ain’t gonna let it happen.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:07 pm
Let’s say I am the Raiders and I want to trade for a QB. Anyone know how this is done? Just curious.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:07 pm
id like too see dmac get plus 20 carries a game regardless of whos at QB,
October 18th, 2011 at 9:07 pm
You guys noticed Hue Jack’s chair today. Dont ever remember the Raiders doing a presser with a chair that big. Hue Jack looked like the big boss out there. They even talked about it on 95.7.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:08 pm
SharkCatcher Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:05 pm
TheToozFan55 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:56 pm
Every year, I live and die with the success of the Raiders. During the snowbowl, i broke two plastic deck chairs throwing myself down in disgust.
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My new best friend. Welcome.
HAHA…I was thinking the same thing! That snow job will forever be etched in my mind! I think if I was at my own house, something would have broke!
October 18th, 2011 at 9:08 pm
Otis60 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:05 pm
Shark, fellow SoCal fan. I’ll be at the Broncos, Lions and Chargers. I’m trying to have my cousin get some game tickets for the road game in SD. He can usually get good seats.
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October 18th, 2011 at 9:08 pm
Oakland Live has already been approved by the Oakland City Council…
It is Oakland’s equivalent of LA Live for the Lakers.
It is on the vacant area of land where the Raiders currently play and where Amy Trask has said that the Raiders WANT TO STAY.
Hue Jackson is invested in the community of Oakland and he “obviously” has Amy’s ear as well.
The Raiders will remain in the Bay Area…As a last resort they will move to Santa Clara.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:09 pm
severeraiderz Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:06 pm
La offers much more economically to this newly rejuvenated team
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In this economy? More like “a little” more. Have you been to LA in the past 10 years? It seems like about 90% of the region is impoverished. Even a lot of Orange County is starting to look run down.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:10 pm
Au contraire…..I think the chances of us moving to LA doubled about 10 days ago. No one wanted to deal with Al in LA, but Mark is a different story.
Plus, we can see that Mark can be talked into major decisions in less than 48 hours by the way he allowed this Palmer trade to go through. Get a slick talker in from LA and he might sign the paperwork before Amy can even get into the room….
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LOL. I like your imagination, Dakota. Not happening though.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:10 pm
Welcome aboard TheToozFan55. Feels like home doesn’t it?
October 18th, 2011 at 9:10 pm
One of the biggest Raiders booster clubs is in San Diego.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:10 pm
230.ArmChair GM Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:05 pm
Dakota Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:03 pm
lol I have family in both San Carlos and Fallbrook near San Diego. I visit them frequently. I’ve been to the Coliseum…..not impressed.
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Rotflmao…
Yeah and I’m an expert on Native American culture and history because I saw a Longhouse and a teepee on TV once.
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I also have been to Knott’s Berry Farm….so I know what I am talking about here…
October 18th, 2011 at 9:10 pm
For those of us happy about this Palmer deal, i don’t think it’s necessary to rip JC in the process.
What was his record as a starter here? 14-9?
That is pretty darn good compared to where we were.
I feel real bad for the guy. He was better than alot of QB’s in the league.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:11 pm
I wonder what the average salary/wage is per adult in both the overall bay area and the overall L.A. region. That will settle the economic viability argument, right there. Because fans have to have money to spend.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:11 pm
As an LA guy I think the Chargers go to LA. Heard Mark is a huge history guy, what more history do you want than Oakland and its Raiders. Mark grew up in Nor Cal, and Al (RIP) is buried there. Oakland is the Raiders rightful home.
From an LA guy
Go Raiders
GO Doyers
Go Lakers
October 18th, 2011 at 9:11 pm
Amy Trask has said that plans are to stay in Oakland, I will bet that we stay in Oakland! LA Raiders were fun back in the day, but the Town is there home!
October 18th, 2011 at 9:12 pm
Reminds me of how Dallas robbed Minnesota in the early 90’s. Took MN 9 years to get back to the playoffs. If the Raiders don’t win the SB by 2013 then this was a total waste.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:12 pm
I’m from the OC Sully and that hurts but unfortunately a lot of what you say is true.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:12 pm
Correction…Raiders are already selling Palmer jerseys. That was fast.
http://store.raiders.com/4027110302.html
October 18th, 2011 at 9:12 pm
And I’m telling you, I’d be willing to bet that the average wage in the overall L.A. region is just above minimum wage. LA is the capitol of stop gap, low wage jobs. A lot more union workers in the bay. That translates to better ticket sales.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:12 pm
hwnrdr Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:08 pm
SharkCatcher Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:05 pm
TheToozFan55 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:56 pm
Every year, I live and die with the success of the Raiders. During the snowbowl, i broke two plastic deck chairs throwing myself down in disgust.
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My new best friend. Welcome.
HAHA…I was thinking the same thing! That snow job will forever be etched in my mind! I think if I was at my own house, something would have broke!
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It remember it was a saturday night and I had the flu from hell.101 fever-chills ,cough..ect My wife ( gf at the time) wanted to take me to Kaiser.lol )I gathered my strength that day just to watch the ” tuck rule” game and never felt worse in my entire life.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:13 pm
@ 245 although i think palmer far superior, i agree that campbell served us well, and always held himself with media and his team mates very professionaly. i hope something works out for dude..
October 18th, 2011 at 9:13 pm
Try some reality
How many offensive touchdowns did we score with Boller in the game? Stfu already. Jc wasn’t great but he got the job done and was apart of the reason for the improvement seen in DHB. That 88 yard drive to begin the game was a thing of beauty.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:13 pm
JB Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:05 pm
If they moved to LA they’d have to move Al too. That’s not likely happening so Oakland will be the rightful home of the Oakland Raiders. Besides, his gas touch is not mobile. LOL
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Good point. Al Davis is buried only about quarter mile from my house.
That is his final resting place. No way Mark Davis moves the team 400 miles south, and leaves his father in Oakland.
Oh wait Dakota……Mark will dig up his father’s remains and transport then to LA right? smh.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:14 pm
I checked about Mark graduating from Cal Chico and its true. If he was an LA guy he would have graduated from USC. It is still hard to say what he and Amy will do. Right now I think the Chargers are going to LA. The Raiders will be used to push them in that direction.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:15 pm
San Diego’s starting to look run down, too. I used to say that San Diego is like a clean Los Angeles. Not looking that way anymore. Pavement looking more run down, more pot holes, etc. Property looking more run down (although I’ll be the value is still rising only due to location and demand). Daygo’s falling apart, too.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:16 pm
qodrn Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:07 pm
Let’s say I am the Raiders and I want to trade for a QB. Anyone know how this is done? Just curious.
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yeah I can tell ya. lst off, start with FAR AND AWAY the best Q out there……..
October 18th, 2011 at 9:16 pm
Kirk Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:02 pm
We have gone from JaMarcus to Palmer.
Pretty good if you ask me.
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Palmer/HuJack is our reward for having to deal with JaBustus Butthol* for as long as we did.
Also, enoug with the Grads BS. He’s not even in the same league, so to speak, with JC or Palmer. I’m surprised he’s still in the NFL.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:16 pm
Oh well…good night Nation!
ToozFan…welcome to the blog! Try chiming in the AM, if you haven’t already…funny about Tooz is that only Raider fans knew that he was Sloth on The Goonies!
October 18th, 2011 at 9:16 pm
San Diego is falling about in some places but you can’t beat the weather and there are still some great areas to live if you can afford to.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:17 pm
I’ll tell ya one (or two, or three) teams that would probably take JC if they have a chance: Denver ,Cleveland or Indy.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:17 pm
AIG, I noticed the chairs, too, man.
Hue with a shrewdness about him and even brought in the chairs. pretty soon will be retiring the overhead for a powerpoint.
Michael Corleone in this MF.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:18 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:15 pm
San Diego’s starting to look run down, too. I used to say that San Diego is like a clean Los Angeles. Not looking that way anymore. Pavement looking more run down, more pot holes, etc. Property looking more run down (although I’ll be the value is still rising only due to location and demand). Daygo’s falling apart, too.
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I heard something on the news about some kinda of bad economy thing going on right now.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:18 pm
252.Sullivan44 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:12 pm
And I’m telling you, I’d be willing to bet that the average wage in the overall L.A. region is just above minimum wage. LA is the capitol of stop gap, low wage jobs. A lot more union workers in the bay. That translates to better ticket sales.
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It isn’t about selling tickets, it is about selling luxury suites to rich people and corporations, and then marketing the merchandise to the poorer masses….and there are many, many more masses in the greater LA area.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:18 pm
Maddenraider you think you are on fire, there is not one person in here listening to your garbage eating mouth, suck it.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:19 pm
well except dakota, i guess you hooked him.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:19 pm
My impression of Palmer is this: Quiet, confident, serious, focused, competitive guy who wants to be the best.
When you think about the nonsense in Cincinnati, not just Ochocinco and his antics or T.O. or the parade of punks or the fact that Marvin Lewis does not strike anyone as anything more than an average coach or that, and this is probably the biggest one, Mike Brown is probably the NFL owner least dedicated to building and investing in a winning team and it’s obvious why Palmer took the route he did and decided he wanted out.
Now, he comes to a team filled with young, talented guys who seem truly eager and dedicated to winning without any annoying drama or distractions. Think about it. I can’t name one prima donna on this entire team. Not one. I can’t name one guy with a rep for not fully dedicating himself to getting better and making this team better. Guys like Seymour, DHB, Veldheer, McFadden, Routt and many more are renowned for their hard work and apparent desire to be the best players they can be while not putting their own interests over that of the team.
I’m not there so this is, obviously, a lot of speculation. But I watch the team as closely as anyone and my point is that it seems like a much different situation and one that Carson will embrace. And it’s been so long since we had a quarterback of Palmer’s caliber that Raider Nation will certainly embrace him and show him the love as well.
I just feel like this is a really, really great fit.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:19 pm
I don’t understand how the league allows contracts that seem to encourage throwing a game. It’s said that the deal states that if we make it to the AFC championship game either this year or the next, then we give up not a 2nd round choice to Cincy, but another 1st rounder.
Say we get to a playoff game in either year, but we realize that we got there on something like a quirky play or a lucky call by the official (haha!); say that during the playoff game, we lose an important player(s) to injury and that even if we get to the AFC championship, we will likely lose it…in other words, as long as the powers-that-be conclude realistically that a playoff victory is very unlikely to result in a Super Bowl appearance or a Super Bowl win, wouldn’t this encourage throwing the game? Why give up your chance to “retrieve” the first round choice you conditionally gave away in a trade if you conclude you will not win the big one or even get there?
I don’t understand how the league allow those kinds of conditions in a contract.
Lastly, I do believe that Hue is one of two things at this point–hungry with power, not in a selfish way, but as one who isn’t used to weilding power and so doesn’t have the necessary instincts that one with such power has to learn to hone so as to avoid making brash, emotional decisions or he and Trask and Mark Davis are still pretty emotionally overwrought and want desparately for this, the year of Al Davis’ death, to be the Year of the Raiders Return to Greatness as a tribute to the Old Man. The more I think about this, the more I am uneasy with it.
Every snap of the ball Carson Palmer takes, every hand-off, every drop back, and every pass under a rush will be accompanied by the collective holding of breath of a stadium full of fans and millions of fans watching on tv. Every single snap is one snap away from having lost not only a qb but two first round draft picks and a future, a future that could have been bright because of the growth of the others on offense.We gave up too much. One first rounder was enough–plenty, in fact. I think that as the hours passed toward the deadline, whoever was playing poker over the phone for us folded.
I hope it all works out, that we have a healthy and effective CP for at least 5 years.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:19 pm
Dakota Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:18 pm
252.Sullivan44 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:12 pm
And I’m telling you, I’d be willing to bet that the average wage in the overall L.A. region is just above minimum wage. LA is the capitol of stop gap, low wage jobs. A lot more union workers in the bay. That translates to better ticket sales.
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It isn’t about selling tickets, it is about selling luxury suites to rich people and corporations, and then marketing the merchandise to the poorer masses….and there are many, many more masses in the greater LA area.
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People pop bottles just cause its Tuesday out here son!!
October 18th, 2011 at 9:20 pm
Lol im going to work
But let me say this Sullivan you don’t know sh!t about socal so shut ur trap because u sound stupid lol. The raiders move to Law would present a much larger market and much better TV deals. It would also force the hand on CBS with that contract they gave to the chargers after the raiders left and started playing poorly
October 18th, 2011 at 9:20 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 7:39 pm
You don’t know how happy I am to read about Jason Campbell in past tense.
Now we can actually go, and fancy ourselves as legitimate Super Bowl candidates.
You can’t do that, with Jason Campbell as your QB.
This upgrade at QB, replicates our coaching shift this past season.
Cable was a hard-worker, and got this ball rolling in the right direction, but Hue obviously has the higher ceiling and the ability to take us to the next level.
Well Soup, is the Cable of QB’s. Hard-worker, got the ball rolling in the right direction, but Palmer is here wit the higher ceiling and ready to take us to the next level.
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Playoffs?! Playoff?! With Rolando Bozzworth as MLB? Playoff?!
Super Bowl?!
I would have paid this ransom to 49ers instead for Patrick Willis. Defense wins playoffs not offense. So while we’re all getting ahead of ourselves on offense don’t forget who’s in the middle of the defense: that’s right Rolando Buzzworth flying through air to make an arm tackle only to see oops his guy got away.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:20 pm
Otis, San Diego’s weather is overrated. It’s overcast a lot. Rains a lot, too. And that’s the case for all of Southern Cal. What is up with that? Something I started to notice in the last decade or so. LA and Daygo just get these seemingly torrential rains from about February to mid April. Southern Cal used to be my quick winter getaway from Sac (not that Sac’s really cold, but it does get down to the 30s in Dec, Jan). Now every time I gear up to go down there in Feb, March, I check the weather and it’s freaking pouring for the following 3 days. Forget it.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:20 pm
I don’t wanna sound fcked up, but Carson’s not on chemo or anything is he?
October 18th, 2011 at 9:21 pm
luvmarvhub Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:19 pm
I don’t understand how the league allows contracts that seem to encourage throwing a game. It’s said that the deal states that if we make it to the AFC championship game either this year or the next, then we give up not a 2nd round choice to Cincy, but another 1st rounder.
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nobody has hit this angle
October 18th, 2011 at 9:21 pm
Michael Corleone in this MF.
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LA,
You saw that too huh. Hue was trying to hard to wink wink “I’m not the GM” but I saw him lobbied for this indirectly after AD’s death in most of his public appearances. That Hue dude is one shrewd mofo.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:21 pm
407.2romes Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:11 pm
Al would have wanted the Raiders to bring in the best player available at the time to give the Raiders the best chances to win, now. That is what coach Hue Jackson did. Campbell did a reaaly good job for the team and I know he would want the best chances for the team to succeed while he cannot play.
Raiders lets get ready to win a ball game. Ausberry looked like he can do some serious damage to a defense if you dial up some plays for him. With all the other threats the Chiefs have to worry about Ausberry would be a second though for them.
I believe Boller can take on the Chiefs this week and win!! he needs to show he does add valve to this team in time of need. Boller, Boller, Boller!!! what a challange.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:22 pm
Tough break for Jason.
Honestly appreciate all you did to get us here.
Boller equals: just win maybe.
Palmer, sling that ball cuz sliding KOd both Gannon and Cambell. I
October 18th, 2011 at 9:23 pm
MR, it rains buckets about a week out of the year and that;s about it.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:23 pm
Palmer is Jeff George with a brain.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:24 pm
Once we get Reece back this offense is about to open up like a mug
October 18th, 2011 at 9:24 pm
Dakota, with the economy heading this way, there will be less and less ‘luxury’ in Los Angeles. The news down there did a story on actors and what not squatting on former property that had been foreclosed.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:24 pm
WOW…Rolando hate continues, dude not evryone is Patrick f****g willis the premier MLB of the league, Romac has 8 pass defended , most in the team, he will continue to improve and with that make plays.. bet you get on his jock when he starts getting turnovers, and i bet your rolling your eyes like what plays, there coming belive me.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:24 pm
aig-raiders Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:23 pm
Palmer is Jeff George with a brain.
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that might be enough
October 18th, 2011 at 9:24 pm
luvmarvhub Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:19 pm
I don’t understand how the league allows contracts that seem to encourage throwing a game. It’s said that the deal states that if we make it to the AFC championship game either this year or the next, then we give up not a 2nd round choice to Cincy, but another 1st rounder.
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Uh Oh, don’t get the old timers started on the 76 team, now.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:24 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:20 pm
Otis, San Diego’s weather is overrated. It’s overcast a lot. Rains a lot, too. And that’s the case for all of Southern Cal. What is up with that? Something I started to notice in the last decade or so. LA and Daygo just get these seemingly torrential rains from about February to mid April. Southern Cal used to be my quick winter getaway from Sac (not that Sac’s really cold, but it does get down to the 30s in Dec, Jan). Now every time I gear up to go down there in Feb, March, I check the weather and it’s freaking pouring for the following 3 days. Forget it.
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Are you getting a load of this guy, what a life,vacationing in San Diego, trailer trash party boy hanging with sailors. woo hooo, what the life.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:25 pm
Chris in NY Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:19 pm
My impression of Palmer is this: Quiet, confident, serious, focused, competitive guy who wants to be the best.
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Here chew on this: Terrell Owens last year had 72 receptions, almost 1000 yards and 9 scores. Best year he had in probably five. And he did that in 11 starts. So why doesn’t anyone want him? Well, he doesn’t have Palmer heaving him the rock any more, that’s why.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:25 pm
275.LA to TheBay Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:20 pm
I don’t wanna sound fcked up, but Carson’s not on chemo or anything is he?
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Lol, I think he just shaved and lost some body fat.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:26 pm
Man, did you see Hue bustin at that presser with Palmer. The cat was beamin. Hue was bustin and beamin and Palmer said he was gettin to work tonight. That is some fvcking ass schit right there. schit is legit!
October 18th, 2011 at 9:26 pm
276.SharkCatcher Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:21 pm
luvmarvhub Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:19 pm
I don’t understand how the league allows contracts that seem to encourage throwing a game. It’s said that the deal states that if we make it to the AFC championship game either this year or the next, then we give up not a 2nd round choice to Cincy, but another 1st rounder.
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nobody has hit this angle
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would you be dissapointed if we made the AFC champ game (win or lose it) this season and it costs us a 1 drat pick ??just asking..
October 18th, 2011 at 9:27 pm
Blackmamba_20 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:24 pm
WOW…Rolando hate continues, dude not evryone is Patrick f****g willis the premier MLB of the league, Romac has 8 pass defended , most in the team, he will continue to improve and with that make plays.. bet you get on his jock when he starts getting turnovers, and i bet your rolling your eyes like what plays, there coming belive me.
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21 games in his career. He should have about 3 or 4 picks this year. very close to breaking out. and he played hurt…thats heart..stop hating on Rolando.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:27 pm
AIG.
Hue is enjoying this sh;t.
You want this dude as your head coach. You want Marvin Lewis as your affable neighbor who doesn’t mind your partying constanly next door and you want Tom Cable as your refrigerator repair guy.
You want shrew-@$$ Hue Jackson as HC/de facto GM of your football team.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:28 pm
Otis, San Diego’s weather is overrated. It’s overcast a lot. Rains a lot, too.
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Whoever said that is crazy.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:28 pm
Guys! Thanks for the warm welcome! I forgot to tell you a secret! During Plunkett’s time, myself and girlfriends used to hang out at the Hilton (I think)that was at the airport location in Oakland. I remember that the players would come in there after flying back from a game and Plunkett would hang out by himself hugging the wall alone. We used to call him “bubblebutt” because of his large posterior. No disrespect intended. He is my favorite Raider’s QB of all time! We girls were always too shy to talk to any of the Raiders. We just liked to see them.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:28 pm
Dakota Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:25 pm
275.LA to TheBay Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:20 pm
I don’t wanna sound fcked up, but Carson’s not on chemo or anything is he?
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pwhahahaha crack up schit
October 18th, 2011 at 9:28 pm
Thanx Soup for your profesionalism, sorry it had to end like this, i hope he gets healthy backs up palmer, then signs with some other team
October 18th, 2011 at 9:28 pm
Sully you are right, all of SoCal, at least coastal SoCal, has great weather. We have some rainy days during the winter but even during the winter we have plenty of great days. When I complain about bad weather days here people from the Midwest laugh. That being said, I hope the Raiders stay in NorCal.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:28 pm
Testify LA! Can I get an Amen!?!?
October 18th, 2011 at 9:29 pm
Blackmamba_20 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:26 pm
276.SharkCatcher Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:21 pm
luvmarvhub Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:19 pm
I don’t understand how the league allows contracts that seem to encourage throwing a game. It’s said that the deal states that if we make it to the AFC championship game either this year or the next, then we give up not a 2nd round choice to Cincy, but another 1st rounder.
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nobody has hit this angle
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would you be dissapointed if we made the AFC champ game (win or lose it) this season and it costs us a 1 drat pick ??just asking..
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I told my friends I would give up a Lakers championship just for a Raiders playoff apperance. a number 1 pick for a playoff apperance with a chance to go further? I;LL TAKE that every year!!
October 18th, 2011 at 9:30 pm
SharkCatcher Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:27 pm
Blackmamba_20 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:24 pm
WOW…Rolando hate continues, dude not evryone is Patrick f****g willis the premier MLB of the league, Romac has 8 pass defended , most in the team, he will continue to improve and with that make plays.. bet you get on his jock when he starts getting turnovers, and i bet your rolling your eyes like what plays, there coming belive me.
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21 games in his career. He should have about 3 or 4 picks this year. very close to breaking out. and he played hurt…thats heart..stop hating on Rolando.
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McClain has played better the last two weeks. Not good, but better. That is all I ask from him at this point: to improve week to week.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:31 pm
I told my friends I would give up a Lakers championship just for a Raiders playoff apperance. a number 1 pick for a playoff apperance with a chance to go further? I;LL TAKE that every year!!
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WTF is wrong with you? I would give up a Laker ring for a Raider SB win,but nothing less! Daaaaayyyyyuuuuummmmmmmmm!
October 18th, 2011 at 9:31 pm
292.SharkCatcher Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:27 pm
Blackmamba_20 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:24 pm
WOW…Rolando hate continues, dude not evryone is Patrick f****g willis the premier MLB of the league, Romac has 8 pass defended , most in the team, he will continue to improve and with that make plays.. bet you get on his jock when he starts getting turnovers, and i bet your rolling your eyes like what plays, there coming belive me.
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21 games in his career. He should have about 3 or 4 picks this year. very close to breaking out. and he played hurt…thats heart..stop hating on Rolando.
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exactly, he had a DB take one out of his hands vs the browns, im right behind dude, loved the pick at 8, still do.. teething problems but he will be great just as hue says, anyone hating on dude is pathetic a nit picking misery guts
October 18th, 2011 at 9:31 pm
I got spoiled in LA in terms of weather.
They have real seaosons elsewhere, as I found out when I hit the road. Currently in TX, where they have two: Summer and NotSummer. NotSummer started about a week ago and will run through April.
SD weather is fantastic. Better than LA weather which is also pretty damn good.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:31 pm
Carson can throw the deep fade in bounds
October 18th, 2011 at 9:32 pm
Post #270
Dude, you hold your breath with every player.
If you had those picks, what happens if your pick breaks their leg?
Those 2 picks are not the end of the world.
I was thinking a 1st and a 3rd, but a 1st and 2nd not that bead considering the alternative.
Quit crying.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:33 pm
Dakota Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:31 pm
I told my friends I would give up a Lakers championship just for a Raiders playoff apperance. a number 1 pick for a playoff apperance with a chance to go further? I;LL TAKE that every year!!
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WTF is wrong with you? I would give up a Laker ring for a Raider SB win,but nothing less! Daaaaayyyyyuuuuummmmmmmmm!
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that’s how desperate I’am for a taste of the playoffs again. PS..THE CHAMPIONSHIP..I just gave up was this year vs the Mavs. SO ….The RAIDERS ARE COMING!!!
October 18th, 2011 at 9:33 pm
300.SharkCatcher Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:29 pm
Blackmamba_20 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:26 pm
276.SharkCatcher Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:21 pm
luvmarvhub Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:19 pm
I don’t understand how the league allows contracts that seem to encourage throwing a game. It’s said that the deal states that if we make it to the AFC championship game either this year or the next, then we give up not a 2nd round choice to Cincy, but another 1st rounder.
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nobody has hit this angle
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would you be dissapointed if we made the AFC champ game (win or lose it) this season and it costs us a 1 drat pick ??just asking..
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I told my friends I would give up a Lakers championship just for a Raiders playoff apperance. a number 1 pick for a playoff apperance with a chance to go further? I;LL TAKE that every year!!
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yeah the excitment would be crazy schit… well we have a good draw, the tools to do it so lets kep this train rollingggggg
October 18th, 2011 at 9:33 pm
luvmarvhub Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:19 pm
I don’t understand how the league allows contracts that seem to encourage throwing a game. It’s said that the deal states that if we make it to the AFC championship game either this year or the next, then we give up not a 2nd round choice to Cincy, but another 1st rounder.
Say we get to a playoff game in either year, but we realize that we got there on something like a quirky play or a lucky call by the official (haha!); say that during the playoff game, we lose an important player(s) to injury and that even if we get to the AFC championship, we will likely lose it…in other words, as long as the powers-that-be conclude realistically that a playoff victory is very unlikely to result in a Super Bowl appearance or a Super Bowl win, wouldn’t this encourage throwing the game? Why give up your chance to “retrieve” the first round choice you conditionally gave away in a trade if you conclude you will not win the big one or even get there?
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No offense, dude. But that’s probably the dumbest thing ever written on this blog. You really think a professional football team is going to get to the divisional round of the NFL playoffs and purposely throw the game to avoid having to give up a 1st round draft pick rather than a 2nd?
People way, way, way overvalue the draft.
Don’t get me wrong. I love all the draft hype and analysis and hope that comes with it, but the reality is that any 1st round is comprised of about 15 busts, 12-14 average players and only a few stars. Even the media gets carried away in this hype machine.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:33 pm
Amen, brother Beijing.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:33 pm
Gradkowski = Cable’s boy
Campbell = Al’s boy
Palmer = Jackson’s boy
These are facts.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:34 pm
I lived in so cal, great weather but no Raiders!!! Just lakers n usc
October 18th, 2011 at 9:35 pm
LA, I trained in Mississippi to live in the desert. It was “Spring.” The weather was like a vampire sucking the life out of me.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:35 pm
The greedy part of me wants to see Palmer start this Sunday, but my practical side thinks letting him get nearly three weeks of practice in before his first game against Denver is the best course of action.
Really risking injury if we throw him out there 4 or 5 days out of “retirement”.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:35 pm
Ur rt tricky
October 18th, 2011 at 9:35 pm
Listening to HueJax is both good and bad. Can’t help but get stoked about all the optimism and high energy.
On the other side, I know that the Raiders are there now, they’re on their way, with a great young nucleus, mostly drafted, but the time is not now. Heck, wouldn’t be great to have a playoff run this season, carry the legacy.
HueJax goes along way with Palmer, probably saw him play in high school, and was with him at SC and Cincy, obviously likes him enough to pay such a high price, in every which. But, Palmer has always been more hype than substance, he went through some lean years in SC until his senior year, and as a pro he’s in the 80s in qb efficiency, not that much higher than Campbell, but with a much higher tag, that can hurt the team’s ability to deal with cap money in the future.
Plus, Carson comes in with a questionable moral character as he walked out on his contract to force his move. That’s business in the NFL.
Palmer better produce, and he’d better produce quickly. Plus HueJax is laying some extra pressure on the “time is now” mantra, he’d better bring it, or we’ll be hollering for having Campbell back. Not that Soup is the savior or anything, don’t expect Palmer to be one either because he is not.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:36 pm
Reading the transcript was so much better than reading Cork’s stuff… I know he liked Soup… I did too… But now he’s broken… We the best available QB… And we got him…
October 18th, 2011 at 9:36 pm
This thing is getting turned around. Sellouts won’t be a problem, especially if a new stadium deal gets done. Those on the fence would jump at the opportunity.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:36 pm
307.SharkCatcher Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:33 pm
Dakota Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:31 pm
I told my friends I would give up a Lakers championship just for a Raiders playoff apperance. a number 1 pick for a playoff apperance with a chance to go further? I;LL TAKE that every year!!
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WTF is wrong with you? I would give up a Laker ring for a Raider SB win,but nothing less! Daaaaayyyyyuuuuummmmmmmmm!
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that’s how desperate I’am for a taste of the playoffs again. PS..THE CHAMPIONSHIP..I just gave up was this year vs the Mavs. SO ….The RAIDERS ARE COMING!!!
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I knew something strange was happening!
October 18th, 2011 at 9:36 pm
Dakota Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:35 pm
The greedy part of me wants to see Palmer start this Sunday, but my practical side thinks letting him get nearly three weeks of practice in before his first game against Denver is the best course of action.
Really risking injury if we throw him out there 4 or 5 days out of “retirement”.
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I say go with Boller and roll with the punches.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:37 pm
Jerome Boyd got cut. Missing the last play against the Texans probably did the trick.
Steve Wisnewski told us on Sunday that changes were coming and that the organization will be changing.
Specifically, no more scholarships.
Amen.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:37 pm
What has been the deal with Boss? Seems like the invisible TE on offense the past two games (special teams play excluded of course).
October 18th, 2011 at 9:37 pm
I wnt to see palmer sunday too, the colisium will go nuts, D block tailgate will get so hype,
October 18th, 2011 at 9:38 pm
I say go with Boller this Sunday but keep him on a short leash.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:38 pm
boller but if he is turning it over galore pull him and introduce mr palmer.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:39 pm
I thought boyd was playing decent, Did i miss something
October 18th, 2011 at 9:39 pm
Dakota Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:37 pm
What has been the deal with Boss? Seems like the invisible TE on offense the past two games (special teams play excluded of course).
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He was balling against the Texans
October 18th, 2011 at 9:40 pm
Alright, should we start breaking down the Cheats? lst off what is this, Browns coming off a bye, cheats coming off a bye sh**? We play everyone coming off their bye week? What is up with that?
October 18th, 2011 at 9:40 pm
280.LA to TheBay Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:23 pm
MR, it rains buckets about a week out of the year and that;s about it.
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Yeah, the one time I get to go to LA on bizness they had the most rain they’ve ever had in one week.
I’m one of those midwest Raider fans who locked on to them when I was a wee toddler. Was at the game in Soldier Field when Art Whittington ran in to win in OT 25-19.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:40 pm
707raiders Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:39 pm
I thought boyd was playing decent, Did i miss something
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decent isnt good enough in the hue jackson Era
October 18th, 2011 at 9:40 pm
LOL @Otis.
Great throwback handle, by the way.
Yea, in my travels, both recreation and business, I’ve been to some awesome places (mainly recreation) and some sh;tty ones (mainly business).
I like the South. Cool people. Weather is tough to get used to though. It’s like walking around wrapped in a blanket of sweat. And most of the locals are just like ‘yup, bit hot today’ while I am drenched and dying to hop back in the car for some AC.
I went to Cancun in July a few years back and it was extremely muggy. Saving grace is obviously the beaches and the Mayan ruins. Chichen Itza was incredible. Kind of beats Montgomery, AL, you know?
October 18th, 2011 at 9:41 pm
lets talk about the chiefs…can they beat us with Boller at qb? thoughts
October 18th, 2011 at 9:41 pm
Why go with boller on a short leash, lets go palmer,
October 18th, 2011 at 9:42 pm
Some of you are forgetting that Jackson won’t have nearly as much time preparing Palmer during the bye as he would previous years simply because of the restriction in the new CBA. It’s a tough situation to be in if you ask me.
Hue is a bold guy, I think he starts Palmer this Sunday just for that reason alone.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:42 pm
# 707raiders Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:39 pm
I thought boyd was playing decent, Did i miss something
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Typical Al Davis project.
Remember Darnell Bing.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:42 pm
I have to wonder what the coaching staff sees in Ron Parker that he kept his job over Joe Porter and Jerome Boyd.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:43 pm
Severeraiderz Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:13 pm
Try some reality
How many offensive touchdowns did we score with Boller in the game? Stfu already. Jc wasn’t great but he got the job done and was apart of the reason for the improvement seen in DHB. That 88 yard drive to begin the game was a thing of beauty.
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Where the fk do you get off with this schit? What did I say, you little punk? Can you read? I said Soup deserved credit and shouldn’t get dumped on but that his ceiling was low. Plenty of people dogging Soup in here and you choose the guy saying that he doesn’t deserve to be dumped on? You STFU because obviously you can’t read, punk btch.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:43 pm
lets say boller went out and lit it up this week. What would be the move after the bye if that happened?
October 18th, 2011 at 9:43 pm
328.Seymour Bush Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:40 pm
Alright, should we start breaking down the Cheats? lst off what is this, Browns coming off a bye, cheats coming off a bye sh**? We play everyone coming off their bye week? What is up with that?
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There rush attack is short handed, we should handle it well.
Hows there pass rush been, Hali ??
Jacoby loves playing these guys, i got a feeling he goes for another big one on KR
October 18th, 2011 at 9:43 pm
328.Seymour Bush Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:40 pm
Alright, should we start breaking down the Cheats? lst off what is this, Browns coming off a bye, cheats coming off a bye sh**? We play everyone coming off their bye week? What is up with that?
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It’s called “conspiracy”. We start the year on MNF AT Denver then travel cross country on a short week for an early game on the east coast in Buffalo then we get to come home to play a team that was in the AFC Champ. game and follow it up with New Eng. Then…we have to play a very good Texan team on the road.
The Cleveland game was our one breather for the year.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:43 pm
327.SharkCatcher Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:39 pm
Dakota Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:37 pm
What has been the deal with Boss? Seems like the invisible TE on offense the past two games (special teams play excluded of course).
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He was balling against the Texans
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He was? He has had 1 reception in two games according to his NFL.com game logs. That was the trick play. Absolutely nothing on offense. I know he is more of a blocker, but I hope Palmer will use him more in the passing game.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:44 pm
TJ Given Palmer the up’s
http://blog.sfgate.com/raiders/2011/10/18/houshmandzadeh-says-palmers-still-got-it/
October 18th, 2011 at 9:44 pm
Uf boller turns the ball over more than once We could be in trouble, 3rd down conversión are crucial too
October 18th, 2011 at 9:44 pm
707raiders Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:41 pm
Why go with boller on a short leash, lets go palmer,
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Think it’s better that we give him time to practice with the team and learn some of the audibles and language in 18 days than throwing him in the fire in 5 days.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:44 pm
Thanks LA. I saw my first game in 1973 and have been a fan since even though I was born and raised in SoCal. The South is very pretty and the people are really nice. The weather is the pits.
I have been to many places in the world and coastal SoCal has the best weather. I’m spoiled. If our beaches were as nice as Cancun’s our population would quadruple.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:45 pm
Dakota Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:43 pm
327.SharkCatcher Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:39 pm
Dakota Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:37 pm
What has been the deal with Boss? Seems like the invisible TE on offense the past two games (special teams play excluded of course).
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He was balling against the Texans
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He was? He has had 1 reception in two games according to his NFL.com game logs. That was the trick play. Absolutely nothing on offense. I know he is more of a blocker, but I hope Palmer will use him more in the passing game.
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he had a game for with 5 catches no? maybe I trippin
October 18th, 2011 at 9:45 pm
Here’s one angle that isn’t being talked about much and why (I think) the Raiders HAD to do a trade like this while they are playoff contenders:
Jason Cambell’s injury might not be just season ending, it might be career ending.
Here’s why I say this: I actually snapped the end of my collarbone in a clean break right at the end near the shoulder in a very similar way that JC did. In my case I was diving for a ball in center field with my glove hand and drove my shoulder into the ground at full running speed. The Dr. told me that mine would recover without surgery, but apparently that was not the case with JC; he needed surgery. My shoulder has never been the same, and that was almost 10 years ago. I couldn’t imagine throwing 6 weeks after an injury of this nature based on my experience with the same injury; there is ZERO chance that JC is able to come back to pre-injury form this season, and he might never get back to the throwing strength needed to be anything other than a backup QB.
I hate to say it, but this injury is BAD for JC’s career. I liked the spirit he showed this year by playing as a Raider should, but we had to look at other options. I would put money on the medical staff and trainers telling Hue exactly how serious this injury is and the whole coaching staff realizing that JC’s days as a starting QB are over.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:45 pm
338.raidergo Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:43 pm
lets say boller went out and lit it up this week. What would be the move after the bye if that happened?
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Trade Palmer for a backup safety and start Boller rest of the season.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:45 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:40 pm
Alright, should we start breaking down the Cheats? lst off what is this, Browns coming off a bye, cheats coming off a bye sh**? We play everyone coming off their bye week? What is up with that?
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Conspiracy. Seen that siht comin.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:46 pm
Raider store has a special on Gallery and Porter authentic jerseys. $50.00.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:46 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:43 pm
Severeraiderz Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:13 pm
Try some reality
How many offensive touchdowns did we score with Boller in the game? Stfu already. Jc wasn’t great but he got the job done and was apart of the reason for the improvement seen in DHB. That 88 yard drive to begin the game was a thing of beauty.
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Where the fk do you get off with this schit? What did I say, you little punk? Can you read? I said Soup deserved credit and shouldn’t get dumped on but that his ceiling was low. Plenty of people dogging Soup in here and you choose the guy saying that he doesn’t deserve to be dumped
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damn, someone woke up on the wrong side of the floor.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:46 pm
338.raidergo Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:43 pm
lets say boller went out and lit it up this week. What would be the move after the bye if that happened?
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I think the chances of the rapture occuring during the game are better than the chances of Boller lighting it up in a football game.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:47 pm
we just have to win sunday and i think we can with either QB. Although KC had a good game last week, it was at home, right? we’ve done the unthinkable and won 2 in a row, unlike last year. Sundays’ game will be very interesting, won’t it?
I shelled out $550 bucks to get 45 yard line seats at the chargers game plus a bus ride home for the Charger’s game. Last year we had nosebleed seats and took the trolley which took us until 8:30 to get home from a 1:00p.m. game. Also, the Chargers fans are HORRIBLE! A young man who could have been my son kept staring at me when i was seated. I ignored him and he disappeared, only to be seen in the 4th quarter wandering around with no idea of where he was. My 15 year old son was so harassed in line to get a hot dog that i had to get security involved for the 45 year old man to leave him alone. i was so pissed! Thank god that at chargers games, half the crowd are Raiders fans! I am actually afraid to go, but my son is insisting so wish me luck!
October 18th, 2011 at 9:47 pm
We finally have wide recievers getting the ball more, We dont need our tight end leadin the team… With dmc running and speedy wide outs boss has to just stay ready
October 18th, 2011 at 9:47 pm
it was either last year or the yr before that we played teams off a bye 4 weeks in a row.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:47 pm
Dakota Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:35 pm
The greedy part of me wants to see Palmer start this Sunday, but my practical side thinks letting him get nearly three weeks of practice in before his first game against Denver is the best course of action.
Really risking injury if we throw him out there 4 or 5 days out of “retirement”.
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Totally agree.
Also agree with those who say to keep Boller on a short leash, too. This is a real important division game at home against an inferior team that we need to bank.
I kind of have the feeling that Boller might actually do well in this one. Basically, he knows this is a one-game shot for him and that, win or lose, he’s going back to the bench after this. So he gets to go out there, play loose and also play like this is his own personal playoff game.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:48 pm
I do hate it for Campbell. The guy said and did all the right things. He didn’t set the world on fire with his play, but without his steady, calming influence the Raiders would not be where they are today. Before Campbell, this team was pitiful. He helped get us to respectability–no more, but more importantly, no less. He’s a good guy, hard working, professional, etc. He was not good in Washington, but was also an unfair scapegoat. Then this happens to him.
I am excited about Palmer. The league is a business-but businesses do involve people, and Campbell seemed to be a good one. Not excited about what we give up here, but am excited about the player we got. I will definitely pull for Jason Campbell for the rest of his career, just not against the Raiders.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:49 pm
332.SharkCatcher Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:41 pm
lets talk about the chiefs…can they beat us with Boller at qb? thoughts
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Cheifs are playing much better of late. They will stack the line and force Boller to beat them.
In that scenario it’s possible they could keep us stagnated on offense, and if our D has a bad day and can’t get to Cassell,…then yes we could be in trouble.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:49 pm
zopi Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:35 pm
But, Palmer has always been more hype than substance, he went through some lean years in SC until his senior year, and as a pro he’s in the 80s in qb efficiency, not that much higher than Campbell,
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Palmer is an overall number one, a Heisman winner, 2 time pro bowler. Palmer has led the NFL in completion percentage and TD passes. You can’t say those things about Jason Campbell. The guy can flat out play the game. He’s been beaten up a little but appears healed and ready to go.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:50 pm
EXTREMELY happy that Carson was fully vetted prior to coming here. If accurate, this can’t be underestimated either.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:50 pm
354.707raiders Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:47 pm
We finally have wide recievers getting the ball more, We dont need our tight end leadin the team… With dmc running and speedy wide outs boss has to just stay ready
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True. I would like to see McFadden more involved in the passing game though. Dude can take it to the house on screens….we need to run those quite a bit in Palmer’s first few games to get him acclimated.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:51 pm
Prior might not know it yet but he’s the biggest winner int his trade. Learn kid!
October 18th, 2011 at 9:51 pm
Devilr8er Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:11 pm
As an LA guy I think the Chargers go to LA. Heard Mark is a huge history guy, what more history do you want than Oakland and its Raiders. Mark grew up in Nor Cal, and Al (RIP) is buried there. Oakland is the Raiders rightful home.
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Great point about Al’s resting place.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:52 pm
whats up nation!!! looking at the highlights on sunday because i missed some of the 2nd qrt.. how stupid of jason campbell to slide head first when he fumbled the ball away but to do it again and break your collarbone… this is a bonehead play by JC one of many more that would have come.. i guarantee u this.. you will not i repeat NOT see carson palmer dive head first in a reg season game… that is rule number one for a qb!! feet first baseball slide!!! JC im thankful for all the hard work that youve put in, but you have played your last game as a raider.. THANK YOU
October 18th, 2011 at 9:52 pm
anyone know when the new madden update for rosters is…? Im ready to Play! lol
October 18th, 2011 at 9:53 pm
Palmer also was tested under fire by playing the Steelers and Ravens every year.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:53 pm
363.Try Some Reality Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:51 pm
Devilr8er Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:11 pm
As an LA guy I think the Chargers go to LA. Heard Mark is a huge history guy, what more history do you want than Oakland and its Raiders. Mark grew up in Nor Cal, and Al (RIP) is buried there. Oakland is the Raiders rightful home.
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Great point about Al’s resting place.
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Not that difficult to move a rock and some cremains.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:55 pm
The team is going through alot of adversity -death of all…tribute game ..New Qb–while this bond us together!?
October 18th, 2011 at 9:55 pm
From what I have read about him I like JC as a person but like people on this blog have mentioned, this is a business. AD let Tom Flores go after a 500 season and one bad year.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:55 pm
not all..Just AL
October 18th, 2011 at 9:55 pm
Well. I called for them to trade for Palmer after Jason got hurt and looked what happened? NICE!
However, I would have liked to just have seen us give up the 1st in 2013 and maybe a player…but Huey and the team did what they had to do.
The door became open to acquire a potential top 10 QB in the NFL who is going to be hungry to get back into it again!
The trade is a gamble, but it was a necessary gamble and a good one at that.
I like how Carson restructured his deal down also to help the team out and make it cap friendly.
I wouldn’t be surprised if we see Carson starting vs Denver in two weeks after the bye. He may even get some snaps vs the Queefs, depending on the game situation.
I feel bad for JC. He was doing all he was asked to do, and playing well overall. I would like to see him remain onboard as a backup if possible after the season, but some team who needs a starter like the Seahawks and Dolphins, will probably go after him in the offseason.
A few things that I want to see Hue and Saunders work with Carson on:
1. Work on his footwork and mechanics and get the fundamentals down. Have him get his legs and feet into it. He can’t be a stiff in the pocket.
2. They need to roll Carson out more than what was done in Cinncy. The play calling became pathetic in Cinncy in Carsons last year there and it sure didn’t help.
3. Make sure Carson doesn’t stare down his primary receiver. He was staring down his receivers too long his last season in Cinncy and he needs to go through his progressions and be coached up on it again.
4. Do not get to pass happy and have Carson throw deep all the time. The play calling needs to remain unpredictable and they need to keep mixing up the play calling for Carson.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:56 pm
Man, watching these highlights of Palmer’s tight spirals vs Campbell’s fluttering deep ducks out of bounds is getting me pumped!
DHB might start looking like James Jett….in a good way!
October 18th, 2011 at 9:56 pm
Dakota you are right, it is not difficult but most people would prefer not to.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:56 pm
The cheifs are going down
October 18th, 2011 at 9:57 pm
DKnight007 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:55 pm
Well. I called for them to trade for Palmer after Jason got hurt and looked what happened?
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You should work for espn or something.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:57 pm
Dakota Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:56 pm
Man, watching these highlights of Palmer’s tight spirals vs Campbell’s fluttering deep ducks out of bounds is getting me pumped!
DHB might start looking like James Jett….in a good way!
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have you seen this kid the last 3 games..he’s playing like his hair is on fire.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:59 pm
DHB not like Cliff Branch but maybe like Tim Brown ?
October 18th, 2011 at 9:59 pm
No matter who is at QB next sunday, Raiders are gonna wipe some KC ass all over the fvcking field, and hand KCs’ asses to the little b!tches when they be fvkin done wit’em. Fvck Yeah. KC cam blow some dick, but they ain’t beatin Oakland.
October 18th, 2011 at 10:00 pm
376.SharkCatcher Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:57 pm
Dakota Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:56 pm
Man, watching these highlights of Palmer’s tight spirals vs Campbell’s fluttering deep ducks out of bounds is getting me pumped!
DHB might start looking like James Jett….in a good way!
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have you seen this kid the last 3 games..he’s playing like his hair is on fire.
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He has been getting the short and intermediate work done, which is great, but I don’t think that is what Al, or any of us, envisioned when he was drafted. He is going to start getting some of those bombs down the sideline that Campbell was incapable of completing.
October 18th, 2011 at 10:00 pm
Dakota Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:56 pm
Man, watching these highlights of Palmer’s tight spirals vs Campbell’s fluttering deep ducks out of bounds is getting me pumped!
DHB might start looking like James Jett….in a good way!
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This was the discussion I was basically having with Vegas I believe. I never really was a Carson Palmer fan til I saw him up close, and he throws a tremendous pass, is big, smart, tough, reads defenses well. His warm up throws were just things of beauty. These are things you just can’t tell on TV. Watching him play live was when I became a big fan of his.
October 18th, 2011 at 10:00 pm
SharkCatcher Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:57 pm
DKnight007 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:55 pm
Well. I called for them to trade for Palmer after Jason got hurt and looked what happened?
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You should work for espn or something.
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ive been calling for this since he retired…
October 18th, 2011 at 10:00 pm
DO the Raiders sellout the next game?yes or no.
October 18th, 2011 at 10:00 pm
“Yeah, I’ve watched their four games — [glances at Hue] — OUR four games.”
Uh, Carson, I know you had to be better prepared than that. People are a bit looser with the tongue over there every day it seems. And also, we’ve played six.
October 18th, 2011 at 10:01 pm
No guarantees next years 1st rounder will be a super star either. Getting a franchise QB like Carson will probably be better than that pick, just as long as he stays healthy and doesn’t throw crazy INT’s!
Raiders will also receive two or three comp picks which will probably be a 3rd for Nnamdi, a 4th for Miller and a 5th for Gallery.
The Raiders are LOADED with young talent on that roster for the next 4-5 years at least! So they did NOT mortgage the future for Carson. Whoever says the Raiders “mortgaged their future” for Carson, is an IDIOT!!
October 18th, 2011 at 10:01 pm
Dknight, i agree
October 18th, 2011 at 10:02 pm
SharkCatcher Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 10:00 pm
DO the Raiders sellout the next game?yes or no.
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Yes. It’s a done deal.
October 18th, 2011 at 10:02 pm
5-2 …I like the smell of that!
October 18th, 2011 at 10:03 pm
Peace Yall! I dont care how or with who..Just Beat the Chiefs!
October 18th, 2011 at 10:03 pm
Do we sell out this weekend?
October 18th, 2011 at 10:03 pm
i think we need to be worried about the chiefs! they are looking better……………..thank god we’re at home! we r going to need a turnover or two. what say you?
October 18th, 2011 at 10:04 pm
Run Darren all day, taiwain gnu make a play this week too!!!!!!!
October 18th, 2011 at 10:04 pm
LA To TheBay Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 10:00 pm
“Yeah, I’ve watched their four games — [glances at Hue] — OUR four games.”
Uh, Carson, I know you had to be better prepared than that. People are a bit looser with the tongue over there every day it seems. And also, we’ve played six.
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Hue wanted to get Palmer excited about coming to play for the Raiders and only sent tape of the victories.
October 18th, 2011 at 10:04 pm
Sheesh, how long is this “Would Al Davis approve of this deal” shtick going to go on in the media?
Hope it ends after this season.
October 18th, 2011 at 10:04 pm
I worry about every team because it truly is a matter of “on any given Sunday.”
October 18th, 2011 at 10:05 pm
corkran is a moron. trying to paint this as hue doing what al wouldn’t and poor jason, he worked so hard.
anyone w/ any football knowledge sees this for what it is.
neither al nor hue would have made this move before the season. we brought jc in at the time b/c he appeared to be the best option available. and we needed to play it out. he did a pretty good job. but he got hurt. and we had a golden opportunity to go ahead and get palmer, having seen what jc could do. it’s simple. we upgraded when we had the chance. jc is a good guy and he’ll likely find a backup job, maybe even here. but palmer is a chance for a franchise qb, with a youngster learning behind him.
makes perfect sense. it sounds like cork ran fell in love w/ jc.
October 18th, 2011 at 10:05 pm
your gonna hear this hear first… this is a ONE TIME ONE GAME ONLY.. so DONT TRIP… say its 14-0 KC midway thru the 2nd qrt and boller looks like absolute dogg doo.. Dont be surprised if HUE pulls him and puts in PRYOR FOR A SPARK!! i can see HUE talking to Pryor and tellin him todays YOUR DAY!! TODAY IS YOUR DAY Terrelle cuz you aint gonna play QB here for a minute!!but today im handing you the keys to the Ferrari go get some!!! let me see what you can do..
October 18th, 2011 at 10:06 pm
Yeah toon, a pick for rolando, and sack city for the dline
October 18th, 2011 at 10:06 pm
Looking forward to Cochran,Jerry, Vitorio and Guiterez tweets about a crisp practice and excitment around the facility tomorrow.
October 18th, 2011 at 10:06 pm
TheToozFan55 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 10:03 pm
i think we need to be worried about the chiefs! they are looking better……………..thank god we’re at home! we r going to need a turnover or two. what say you?
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agreed
October 18th, 2011 at 10:07 pm
uh, boller ain’t starting. carson is going, even if he only knows 3 plays.
October 18th, 2011 at 10:07 pm
Tricky70390 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:33 pm
Gradkowski = Cable’s boy
Campbell = Al’s boy
Palmer = Jackson’s boy
These are facts.
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MR = The Blog’s Boy!
October 18th, 2011 at 10:07 pm
396.30 year raider Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 10:05 pm
your gonna hear this hear first… this is a ONE TIME ONE GAME ONLY.. so DONT TRIP… say its 14-0 KC midway thru the 2nd qrt and boller looks like absolute dogg doo.. Dont be surprised if HUE pulls him and puts in PRYOR FOR A SPARK!! i can see HUE talking to Pryor and tellin him todays YOUR DAY!! TODAY IS YOUR DAY Terrelle cuz you aint gonna play QB here for a minute!!but today im handing you the keys to the Ferrari go get some!!! let me see what you can do..
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And if Pryor somehow lights it up for a half, we can probably bench him for the rest of the season and then trade him in the offseason to some sucker for a 2nd rounder in next year’s draft!
October 18th, 2011 at 10:07 pm
The shoulder joint medically speaking is a mess. It is a combination of three different joints and is the easiest to dislocate. The clavicle is one of three bones that form the joint and often breaks at its weakest point. Surgery is done to fix the bone in place; it the bone is broke in the joint this becomes a real mess. Could take over a year to heal; joint may not be the same. Not good in a QB. If it is the usual crunch in the middle of the clavicle (runs from neck to shoulder) you certainly can stop immobilizing the arm after four weeks or so. Can still take up to nine months for full strength to return. Most of us not a big problem; for athlete not so good. Soup has some uncomfortable times ahead. Sad that he broke the throwing arm.
October 18th, 2011 at 10:08 pm
it sounds like cork ran fell in love w/ jc.
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Soup endeared himself to the media. Yesterday, I think Jerry was gushing about Soup stopping by in the parking lot to let him know that he was having surgery, yadda, yadda, yadda.
October 18th, 2011 at 10:08 pm
i can’t wait! we’ll really see what the raiders are about this weekend. we have to beat the chiefs!
October 18th, 2011 at 10:09 pm
# DKnight007 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:55 pm
Well. I called for them to trade for Palmer after Jason got hurt and looked what happened? NICE!
However, I would have liked to just have seen us give up the 1st in 2013 and maybe a player…but Huey and the team did what they had to do.
The door became open to acquire a potential top 10 QB in the NFL who is going to be hungry to get back into it again!
The trade is a gamble, but it was a necessary gamble and a good one at that.
I like how Carson restructured his deal down also to help the team out and make it cap friendly.
I wouldn’t be surprised if we see Carson starting vs Denver in two weeks after the bye. He may even get some snaps vs the Queefs, depending on the game situation.
I feel bad for JC. He was doing all he was asked to do, and playing well overall. I would like to see him remain onboard as a backup if possible after the season, but some team who needs a starter like the Seahawks and Dolphins, will probably go after him in the offseason.
A few things that I want to see Hue and Saunders work with Carson on:
1. Work on his footwork and mechanics and get the fundamentals down. Have him get his legs and feet into it. He can’t be a stiff in the pocket.
2. They need to roll Carson out more than what was done in Cinncy. The play calling became pathetic in Cinncy in Carsons last year there and it sure didn’t help.
3. Make sure Carson doesn’t stare down his primary receiver. He was staring down his receivers too long his last season in Cinncy and he needs to go through his progressions and be coached up on it again.
4. Do not get to pass happy and have Carson throw deep all the time. The play calling needs to remain unpredictable and they need to keep mixing up the play calling for Carson..
October 18th, 2011 at 10:09 pm
Dakota Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 10:07 pm
396.30 year raider Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 10:05 pm
your gonna hear this hear first… this is a ONE TIME ONE GAME ONLY.. so DONT TRIP… say its 14-0 KC midway thru the 2nd qrt and boller looks like absolute dogg doo.. Dont be surprised if HUE pulls him and puts in PRYOR FOR A SPARK!! i can see HUE talking to Pryor and tellin him todays YOUR DAY!! TODAY IS YOUR DAY Terrelle cuz you aint gonna play QB here for a minute!!but today im handing you the keys to the Ferrari go get some!!! let me see what you can do..
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And if Pryor somehow lights it up for a half, we can probably bench him for the rest of the season and then trade him in the offseason to some sucker for a 2nd rounder in next year’s draft!
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
pryor aint goin NO where if he lights it up, we would then incorperate some wildcat here and there.. then its GAME OVER FOR THE AFC WEST..
October 18th, 2011 at 10:10 pm
Response to…luvmarvhub…about throwing an NFL playoff game so as not to give up a first round draft.
First and formost, the winner bonus money (vs) the loser bonus money is very substantial, so the players want to win. Plus, even if they lose in the next higher round, they’re atleast going to get the losers share again. So winning in the first round gets you the winners bonus and another guaranteed bonus, even if you’re the loser in the second round…and it keeps on progressing. So you can’t get the players to throw a game…they’re playing for big time extra money.
October 18th, 2011 at 10:12 pm
We don’t trade away newtonesque talent, that’s the future baby, I love the Pryor pick
October 18th, 2011 at 10:12 pm
Dakota, I think it’s important to apply some Davis philosophy permanently. If you think about it, it’s kind of already been done:
Steal a 1st round reclamation project from another team that got impatient — check
Have to pay said stolen player a grip the following year — check
Overpay an outrageous sum to get a reclamationish project former-and-future stud USC Rocket Arm QB — check
De facto GM go in front of cameras and laugh at reporters — check
Differences, to be sure. Modernize.
But I believe in the way Al put his teams together. Not necessarily just 40 times, but crazy big athletes that intimidate, rejects and castoffs, stretch the field, punish the QB.
This stuff can still be done and should be. It’s still the Raiders.
October 18th, 2011 at 10:12 pm
No guarantees next years 1st rounder will be a super star either. Getting a franchise QB like Carson will probably be better than that pick, just as long as he stays healthy and doesn’t throw crazy INT’s!
Raiders will also receive two or three comp picks which will probably be a 3rd for Nnamdi, a 4th for Miller and a 5th for Gallery.
The Raiders are LOADED with young talent on that roster for the next 4-5 years at least! So they did NOT mortgage the future for Carson. Whoever says the Raiders “mortgaged their future” for Carson, is an IDIOT!!!
Franchise type QB’s don’t grow on trees in the NFL!
When you have a chance to get one, you better do it….especially an experienced one!
October 18th, 2011 at 10:12 pm
rob_raider Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 10:07 pm
uh, boller ain’t starting. carson is going, even if he only knows 3 plays.
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too soon why rush him into duty… my scenario as i mentioned earlier is more likely to happen… HUE DAVIS is that kind of guy to do something like that
October 18th, 2011 at 10:12 pm
lol, wildcat? That is so 2008!
October 18th, 2011 at 10:14 pm
Blackmamba_20 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 10:12 pm
We don’t trade away newtonesque talent, that’s the future baby, I love the Pryor pick
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concured
October 18th, 2011 at 10:14 pm
Tooz, nah can’t sleep on the Chiefs either. They’re coming to play. Same deal as Cleveland – inferior team we should beat but could leave around hanging – and hungrier than the Browns with a healthy hatred for all things Raider.
October 18th, 2011 at 10:14 pm
Franchise type QB’s don’t grow on trees in the NFL!
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Exactly. End of story. You’re lucky if you happen to pick a franchise QB in the 1st.
October 18th, 2011 at 10:14 pm
Try some Reality
Glad i checked back to see you talking sh!t over the internet like a little a$$ boy. What got ur panties in a twist…me telling you to STFU??? I dont read every comment and yours was the first one i saw dissing our former starter, then i saw comment after comment of you ripping on the QB with the best starting record for our team in nearly a decade. So stfu and stop acting like a butt hurt teenager cuz someone told you to stfu.
JC held it down, was a true professional, helped to improve our WR’s this summer, and helped bring our team together for a players only camp. He ended his Raiders career fighting for an extra yard when we were well within FG range. Show the dude some respect and stop talking so much needless sh!t. Plus all that tough talk on the internet isnt making you look good.
October 18th, 2011 at 10:15 pm
We wild hog over here mayn
October 18th, 2011 at 10:15 pm
F-it im changing my screen name to 30 year raider loves HUE DAVIS
October 18th, 2011 at 10:16 pm
now let me get back to this damn warehouse
October 18th, 2011 at 10:16 pm
0 Year Raider Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 10:12 pm
rob_raider Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 10:07 pm
uh, boller ain’t starting. carson is going, even if he only knows 3 plays.
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too soon why rush him into duty… my scenario as i mentioned earlier is more likely to happen… HUE DAVIS is that kind of guy to do something like that
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why rush him? b/c we need to win a football game and boller blows. palmer is a vet. he can play immediately.
October 18th, 2011 at 10:17 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 10:08 pm
it sounds like cork ran fell in love w/ jc.
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Soup endeared himself to the media. Yesterday, I think Jerry was gushing about Soup stopping by in the parking lot to let him know that he was having surgery, yadda, yadda, yadda.
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So what, dumbass?
October 18th, 2011 at 10:18 pm
421.rob_raider Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 10:16 pm
0 Year Raider Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 10:12 pm
rob_raider Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 10:07 pm
uh, boller ain’t starting. carson is going, even if he only knows 3 plays.
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too soon why rush him into duty… my scenario as i mentioned earlier is more likely to happen… HUE DAVIS is that kind of guy to do something like that
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why rush him? b/c we need to win a football game and boller blows. palmer is a vet. he can play immediately.
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Palmer goes out and strains a quad, pulls a hammy or groin, or strains a shoulder because we rushed him out there and we will be in deep shyznit.
October 18th, 2011 at 10:18 pm
Wildcat needs the threat of the pass and reverse to work.
Bush – former QB
McFadden – guinea pig prototype wildcat QB
Pryor – actual wildcat
Hue has possibilities here.
October 18th, 2011 at 10:18 pm
I would like to see Pryor get involved this weekend with DMC and Ford flanking him in the backfield, keep the Queefs off balance.
We need to pound the rock with more Bush this weekend and wear down that Queef defense.
Bush needs to start running lower though, he has been running to high and we need to get the screen game going again with DMC, Bush and Jones!!
October 18th, 2011 at 10:18 pm
Dakota Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 10:12 pm
lol, wildcat? That is so 2008!
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youve seen fake punts, fake fgs. wildcat is next up.. the 2011 version.. EVERYONE GO LONG.. THEN i take off running… speed kills
October 18th, 2011 at 10:18 pm
I love Marvin Lewis’s shifty eyes when reporters ask him if there were other offers on Palmer.
October 18th, 2011 at 10:19 pm
Who you grinding on severe? I agree about Jason,deserves respect
October 18th, 2011 at 10:20 pm
Show me the posts we’re I’m dissing Soup? If I did, I’m sure it was minor compared to others in here. I call it like I see it. Soup was efficient, but wasn’t taking us anywhere special. You have a problem with that, then you have a problem with reality my friend. In fact, I’m in here defending against all the piling on Soup so I find it interesting that you choose me to attack. You don’t read all the posts? Tells me all I need to know right there.
Talking needless sh1t about Soup? lol. You’re delusional. Go show me the posts, son.
October 18th, 2011 at 10:20 pm
A few things that I want to see Hue and Saunders work with Carson on:
1. Work on his footwork and mechanics and get the fundamentals down. Have him get his legs and feet into it. He can’t be a stiff in the pocket.
2. They need to roll Carson out more than what was done in Cinncy. The play calling became pathetic in Cinncy in Carsons last year there and it sure didn’t help.
3. Make sure Carson doesn’t stare down his primary receiver. He was staring down his receivers too long his last season in Cinncy and he needs to go through his progressions and be coached up on it again.
4. Do NOT get too pass happy and have Carson throw deep all the time. The play calling needs to remain unpredictable and they need to keep mixing up the play calling for Carson with screens, rollouts, short stuff like quick outs, hitch patterns, comeback routes. Then take stabs deep!
October 18th, 2011 at 10:21 pm
Dakota Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 10:18 pm
421.rob_raider Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 10:16 pm
0 Year Raider Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 10:12 pm
rob_raider Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 10:07 pm
uh, boller ain’t starting. carson is going, even if he only knows 3 plays.
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too soon why rush him into duty… my scenario as i mentioned earlier is more likely to happen… HUE DAVIS is that kind of guy to do something like that
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why rush him? b/c we need to win a football game and boller blows. palmer is a vet. he can play immediately.
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Palmer goes out and strains a quad, pulls a hammy or groin, or strains a shoulder because we rushed him out there and we will be in deep shyznit.
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thats exactly why he wont play on sunday. HUE is wayyyyy to smart to play him…he deff wants KC to prepare for him tho. thats why if boller blows i can see him handing him the keys ONE TIME
October 18th, 2011 at 10:23 pm
KK, you old lazy fart, for the so what part, go visit Rob_raider’s post. I was responding to his comment.
October 18th, 2011 at 10:23 pm
Night all! Great day for the Raiders! Next five years should be exciting.
October 18th, 2011 at 10:24 pm
DKnight007 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 10:18 pm
I would like to see Pryor get involved this weekend with DMC and Ford flanking him in the backfield, keep the Queefs off balance.
We need to pound the rock with more Bush this weekend and wear down that Queef defense.
Bush needs to start running lower though, he has been running to high and we need to get the screen game going again with DMC, Bush and Jones!!
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bush aint lookin soo good bro, rather let TONGAAAAAAA bust up the middle on some 31/32 dives or TRAP plays
October 18th, 2011 at 10:24 pm
DKnight007 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 10:20 pm
A few things that I want to see Hue and Saunders work with Carson on:
1. Work on his footwork and mechanics and get the fundamentals down. Have him get his legs and feet into it. He can’t be a stiff in the pocket.
2. They need to roll Carson out more than what was done in Cinncy. The play calling became pathetic in Cinncy in Carsons last year there and it sure didn’t help.
3. Make sure Carson doesn’t stare down his primary receiver. He was staring down his receivers too long his last season in Cinncy and he needs to go through his progressions and be coached up on it again.
4. Do NOT get too pass happy and have Carson throw deep all the time. The play calling needs to remain unpredictable and they need to keep mixing up the play calling for Carson with screens, rollouts, short stuff like quick outs, hitch patterns, comeback routes. Then take stabs deep!
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Wow, really? I thought Carson was perfect.
October 18th, 2011 at 10:25 pm
Campbell alright but to me he always look afraid and thats why he do-do himself everytime he run
October 18th, 2011 at 10:25 pm
Blackmamba_20 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 10:19 pm
Who you grinding on severe? I agree about Jason,deserves respect
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He’s delusional. He’s trying to grind on me. Not sure what prompted it.
October 18th, 2011 at 10:25 pm
did anyone see the block that TONGAAAAAA put on the LB on DMAC first TD??? thats what a lead back is supposed to do… loook at it
October 18th, 2011 at 10:25 pm
“Your fanbase. You’ve got all of them that you have to please so that they have something to go brag about.”
That’s what’s up, CP!
October 18th, 2011 at 10:26 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 10:23 pm
KK, you old lazy fart, for the so what part, go visit Rob_raider’s post. I was responding to his comment.
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F, U, you classless pig.
October 18th, 2011 at 10:28 pm
KK – Care to add an original thought to the blog instead of trashing on people? Why so grumpy? Wife making you sleep on the couch again?
October 18th, 2011 at 10:28 pm
K, you upset about Jason?
October 18th, 2011 at 10:29 pm
im out
October 18th, 2011 at 10:29 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 10:28 pm
KK – Care to add an original thought to the blog instead of trashing on people? Why so grumpy? Wife making you sleep on the couch again?
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Is your mamma the nastiest ho in town?
October 18th, 2011 at 10:29 pm
@437 pretty upset ain’t he, lol …
October 18th, 2011 at 10:30 pm
We have some real psychos on this blog, boy. Holy crap. Severe coming at me like I’m leading the Soup trash party then kk jumping on me for making an observation. Full moon tonight?
October 18th, 2011 at 10:30 pm
Yo Nation
I owe Try Some Reality a BIG A$$ apology i saw a post from him reposting what Just Fire Baby said and responding to it and somehow reversed who said what….Just Fire Baby is the hater.
From me to Try Some Reality my bad i was totally in the wrong. i apologize for me coming at ur neck like that, especially without having my facts straight. Hope you can do like Hue and not look back only look forward lol
October 18th, 2011 at 10:31 pm
Blackmamba_20 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 10:29 pm
@437 pretty upset ain’t he, lol …
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lol. Freakin’ A, yeah he is. And I’m not sure where he’s coming from or what prompted it.
October 18th, 2011 at 10:32 pm
Yeah, it’s sickening seeing Campbell trashed, because you dumbass video clowns have a new name to play with.
October 18th, 2011 at 10:33 pm
Right on, severe. I got no issues with that. Especially since you came out like a man and admitted that. Man, that was funny as heck though. lol
And now I have KK trying to crawl up my azz for some reason. LMAO!
October 18th, 2011 at 10:33 pm
–from Hagar
“Response to…luvmarvhub…about throwing an NFL playoff game so as not to give up a first round draft.
First and formost, the winner bonus money (vs) the loser bonus money is very substantial, so the players want to win. Plus, even if they lose in the next higher round, they’re atleast going to get the losers share again. So winning in the first round gets you the winners bonus and another guaranteed bonus, even if you’re the loser in the second round…and it keeps on progressing. So you can’t get the players to throw a game…they’re playing for big time extra money.”
Thanks, Hagar, but I was talking about the powers-that-be, which would be the front office and head coach. They might desparately want to keep that second first rounder, and so the coach could devise a game plan that sucks or do some horrendous play calling. I wasn’t thinking of the players.
BTW, I was just listening to ESPN and Mortensen, et al are now saying that the Bengals said the trade was for a first rounder this coming year and a second rounder the following year. Mortensen (or the host, don’t recall) said that perhaps the “management panel” (I think that’s what he called it, something like that, but I do think it’s an NFL panel that okays trades and contracts) didn’t allow the original agreement. He said until the Bengals clear that up with the press, they won’t know if the agreement was for a first rounder + a second rounder the following year or if it was for a first rounder + a conditional first rounder the following year, but that the Bengals say it’s a second rounder. Hmmmmm. Maybe my concerns were on target, maybe not.
October 18th, 2011 at 10:35 pm
KK, I was told you are an old man. Is that not true? Real low to be talking about mommas at your age, don’t ya think? And yet you’re the one calling me classless? ROFLMAO! That’s rich.
October 18th, 2011 at 10:35 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 10:33 pm
And now I have KK trying to crawl up my azz for some reason. LMAO!
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I’m sure your azz is full of lice & crabs. and, if you want to bring my family into a blog discussion. I’ll do the same. As Brien has found out.
October 18th, 2011 at 10:36 pm
Well said severe, one nation the S&B the all mighty
October 18th, 2011 at 10:37 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 10:35 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 10:33 pm
And now I have KK trying to crawl up my azz for some reason. LMAO!
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I’m sure your azz is full of lice & crabs. and, if you want to bring my family into a blog discussion. I’ll do the same. As Brien has found out.
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I asked if you got kicked to the coach and you respond with ho mommas and classless pig? Wow. I’m not perfect but I’d say you resemble the classless pig more than I.
October 18th, 2011 at 10:38 pm
*couch*
October 18th, 2011 at 10:38 pm
Don’t that he’s drunk on power, but Hue is definitely a bit tipsy.
October 18th, 2011 at 10:39 pm
I asked if you got kicked to the coach and you respond with ho mommas and classless pig? Wow. I’m not perfect but I’d say you resemble the classless pig more than I.
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That’s your opinion dumbass.
October 18th, 2011 at 10:43 pm
Try Some Reality
you were still ripping on Campbell a lil bit, but it was nothing disrespectful
October 18th, 2011 at 10:44 pm
Whoa whoa
Calm down guys. You’re blowing the scene.
October 18th, 2011 at 10:45 pm
Oh yeah, I’ll admit that Severe. My opinion is he has some limitations. But he definitely deserves credit for working hard and doing a good job off managing the O.
October 18th, 2011 at 10:46 pm
@TSR forget that KK cat, sounds if he got a mad d@$k in his gravel pit…
Raiders 34
Cheifs 16
October 18th, 2011 at 10:46 pm
Djohnnyg Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:43 pm
328.Seymour Bush Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:40 pm
Alright, should we start breaking down the Cheats? lst off what is this, Browns coming off a bye, cheats coming off a bye sh**? We play everyone coming off their bye week? What is up with that?
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It’s called “conspiracy”. We start the year on MNF AT Denver then travel cross country on a short week for an early game on the east coast in Buffalo then we get to come home to play a team that was in the AFC Champ. game and follow it up with New Eng. Then…we have to play a very good Texan team on the road.
The Cleveland game was our one breather for the year.
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That is the status quo. But you know what, we should thank the schedulers for forging the RAIDERS like STEEL. If it were conspiracy, then it blew up in their face! They have giving us there best shot and we are 4-2. Also, to clinch the home playoff games, Palmer literally owns the S.D. The last 3 games against S.D., Palmer beat them all three times: Tossing 9 TD’s and only 1 INT, 74/103 ATT/COMP for 1,023 yards. So go ahead, BRING IT ON …NFL!
October 18th, 2011 at 10:46 pm
K,
JC was trashed. Straight up. Hue and whoever made a very shrewd move but I think ultimately, guys are getting excited about a potential upgrade at QB and winning a lot of games.
If you scroll through, you’ll see a lot of us feel for Jason and gave him his due.
He worked hard and did all the right things.
He got hurt at a very crucial time in the season.
If Hue believed in him, we’d have rolled with Kyle.
Hue (and whoever) have basically told JC that he’s done and that Kyle sucks.
Its extrememly bold. Honestly, I don’t know that Al would have done it, but him not extending Jason (or Bush for that matter) says Al wanted him to prove it.
The fan in me is excited to have Palmer. But it almost always sucks to see a guy get cut or have is carrer as a Raider end, especially giving 100% and being a complete pro like Jason.
October 18th, 2011 at 10:47 pm
aight i really need to get to work
I hope Carson has improved from last season or we just got hosed worse than the Cowboys did for Roy Williams
October 18th, 2011 at 10:48 pm
Now dissing Michael Bush? Do you all not see how much he is getting in the game? Making key runs at the end of games….great hands.
With no draft picks, the Raiders would be smart to re-sign guys like Bush. A true backup running back that can start and can play a substantive role in games.
This is not a video game folks
October 18th, 2011 at 10:52 pm
I hope Palmer works out. The Raiders were truly between a rock & and hard place.
But Palmer hasn’t been a elite QB since 2006. So, I’m not going to throw Jason under the bus.
And, Nobody on this blog, knows how this is going to work out. You can do all the cheer-leading b.s. you want.
Later.
October 18th, 2011 at 10:52 pm
Watching how one play/injury can screw ones career….can’t blame the player at all for the holdouts etc…and complaining when not having that long-term contract.
October 18th, 2011 at 10:53 pm
Blackmamba_20 Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 10:46 pm
@TSR forget that KK cat, sounds if he got a mad d@$k in his gravel pit…
Raiders 34
Cheifs 16
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lol. Truth. My bad for engaging that freak in a discussion. Always in here kicking up dirt like a little child.
October 18th, 2011 at 10:54 pm
I like JC a lot! I appreciate what he has contributed but sometimes he does some pretty questionable things: Like not learning how to slide! That caused a spontaneous fumble and a broken clavicle (that got him fired). He sometimes throws the ball to the other team. Sometimes to an imaginary receiver, or just out of bounds too soon. He is not an iconic QB but he deserves to start somewhere. You think S.F. may be interested?
October 18th, 2011 at 10:55 pm
KK,
Agreed. Palmer is not a slam dunk. He’s coming in mid-year and wasn’t playing all that well in his last couple of years.
No one knows what’s going to happen.
I too hope it works out and I believe that at minimum, he should be able to manage the game…however…his upside should be higher.
Although, I think JC was growing very well with this offense and would have taken this team to the playoffs….tough break for him, especially in contract year.
October 18th, 2011 at 10:55 pm
Yea cuz, always a few around aye!
October 18th, 2011 at 10:56 pm
Raiders 31-10
D gets a score and another turnover deep in KC territory.
McFadden and Bush combine for 200+ rushing yards.
Boller is a solid 16-30 for 200 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT.
October 18th, 2011 at 10:57 pm
Raiders 27 Chiefs 16
Anyone know who came closest last week?
October 18th, 2011 at 10:59 pm
sirblitzalot,
That’s what I’m saying. We have a great schedule this year. Gotta beat the best to be the best or some such corny saying. We got TOUGH games coming up.
We get to go play GB in the frozen tundra. We got to play the Patriots (really wish we had that W), smacked the Jets, gotta play on a short week Xmas eve in KC, short week on a Thursday night for a heavyweight bout with SD, a crazy good D-Troit Lions team in their house, wrap up the season at home with SD trying to keep us from taking the AFC West Crown away from them. It couldn’t possibly be any better.
Well, actually someone mentioned beating Bills, Patriots and 9ers in the playoffs too, LOL
By the way, we haven’t heard from you in a minute, man.
October 18th, 2011 at 11:00 pm
Haven’t seen the scores list this week, I know I was Way off, lol… Got greedy , mind you after our first drive Darren was looking good 150 I’d hoped for
October 18th, 2011 at 11:01 pm
Rich Eisen just admitted on podcast that “tuck” rule was a sham. wow. never hear the media do that.
October 18th, 2011 at 11:02 pm
50 yards in the 1st quarter, I believe. I thought he was gonna rip the Brown all game, but he got stuffed a few times and coach Hue started going away from the run.
October 18th, 2011 at 11:03 pm
KOOL KELL (IN BOLD PRINT), MEANING THAT IS AN ALIUS (YOU ARE NOT EVEN MAN ENOUGH TO IDENTIFY YOURSELF. YOU ARE THE STUPIDEST POST ON THIS BLOG. GO NINERS!!!!
October 18th, 2011 at 11:03 pm
Rich Eisen from NFL Network…whoa.
October 18th, 2011 at 11:03 pm
SnB,
didn’t dis Bush, man, calm down. I like Bush (and he stays on my video game team and he does on it what he does in real life).
Bush should have got extended. And he made a statement early in camp. Making a point that he wasn’t for a reason, same as Jason.
October 18th, 2011 at 11:04 pm
…he should have slid, like he should have in the last game. Feet first!
October 18th, 2011 at 11:05 pm
My man Chris in NY always bringing the science to this sh;t, I love it.
October 18th, 2011 at 11:06 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 10:32 pm
Yeah, it’s sickening seeing Campbell trashed, because you dumbass video clowns have a new name to play with.
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Partner you came in here all day every day and trashed an 82 year old icon. And I mean all day, every day.
October 18th, 2011 at 11:07 pm
Mike Silver from Yahoo Sports is all on the Raiders sack after dogging them for the last several years.
Dude pisses me off, and now it seams he is the go to guy on all things Raiders on NFL Network.
Why not Jerry?
October 18th, 2011 at 11:09 pm
Really want that rushing title for him, team first of course but I want McFadden to tear this league the fugg up…any word on satele
October 18th, 2011 at 11:09 pm
I tell you what, SnB, Hue is playing this like it’s a video game.
He’s having fun. Honestly seems a bit reckless but of course is pure genius if it produces wins.
October 18th, 2011 at 11:10 pm
Hue is in charge of football operations. I am sure of that. I am thankful to Al Davis for finally picking a Head Coach that wants to just win, baby! If there was ever going to be the next “Jim Plunkett,” Carson Palmer is that guy. His career has been given a shot in the arm. Good luck, Carson. A weary Raider Nation believes you can be the leader we’ve been missing for a very long time!
October 18th, 2011 at 11:12 pm
I think they said Satele would be good to go for this game. Just found a quote from him on the injury:
“Oh yeah,” he said. “Come on, man, we’re playing the Chiefs.
“I just got rolled up. That’s football. When you’re playing in the trenches, everything happens.”
October 18th, 2011 at 11:14 pm
Lol Samoans bro, classic..good looking on the quotes..
I’m out nation, good talking TSR, be easy !!!!
October 18th, 2011 at 11:15 pm
LA To TheBay Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 11:09 pm
I tell you what, SnB, Hue is playing this like it’s a video game.
He’s having fun. Honestly seems a bit reckless but of course is pure genius if it produces wins.
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It’s fun to be a part of, as a fan. For those of you in Norcal not already going to the games, I encourage you to go. The place blew it’s top on the return by Ford and the fake FG TD pass from Lechler.
October 18th, 2011 at 11:16 pm
Be good, Blackmamba. Till next time.
October 18th, 2011 at 11:17 pm
Sirblitzalot Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 10:54 pm
I like JC a lot! I appreciate what he has contributed but sometimes he does some pretty questionable things: Like not learning how to slide! That caused a spontaneous fumble and a broken clavicle (that got him fired). He sometimes throws the ball to the other team. Sometimes to an imaginary receiver, or just out of bounds too soon. He is not an iconic QB but he deserves to start somewhere. You think S.F. may be interested?
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JC does deserve to start, but dang, not in SF. Miami maybe. I hope it is not in the AFC West.
October 18th, 2011 at 11:17 pm
What was HJ thinking? Two first round draft picks for this washed up SOB! Granted that Gerrard said he was having surgery this week. Vince Young was available any body else except this crybaby!! There goes the team’s chances of making the playoffs, this year! Poor choice and execution on Hue part. Right back to Redskins West again. What the flip were you thinking, Raiders org.
October 18th, 2011 at 11:19 pm
Dirty – Look for Seattle or Washington to pick him up. Actually, maybe not Washington unless they have a new coach. Rat face is too proud to bring him back. Cable might sell Seattle on bringing him in.
October 18th, 2011 at 11:19 pm
We’ve talked about what this trade means for JC but this has to speak volumes about what Hue thinks of Pryor.
Pryor must be several years away (if ever) from being a starting QB.
October 18th, 2011 at 11:20 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 10:14 pm
Franchise type QB’s don’t grow on trees in the NFL!
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Exactly. End of story. You’re lucky if you happen to pick a franchise QB in the 1st.
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If we had made this exact same deal to acquire the rights to Andrew Luck for next season, the whole league would be calling us brilliant.
That’s one of the problems with the NFL. Too many people salivate over an unproven rookie PROSPECT, that hasn’t taken ONE NFL snap yet, than a PROVEN and tested NFL vet.
Sounds backwards to me.
October 18th, 2011 at 11:20 pm
As far as Jason Campbell is concerned, he made his own bed. He played in the NFL 7 years, and didn’t know how to slide. He only has himself to blame for his injury. He couldn’t make the passes necessary of a good NFL QB. He was mediocre, who was made to look decent because of McFadden and Bush. He is in the bottom 3rd of all NFL starting QBs, something that the Raiders couldn’t live with.
October 18th, 2011 at 11:22 pm
What was HJ thinking?
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Saw a window open up and made a very aggressive move to get his guy and let go of Al’s guy.
If Palmer can return to form, it saves this season and also takes care of the next several.
Threw a couple of QBs under the bus to do it and bruised some egos, but I think it’s a move that pays off. Hope so, anyhow.
I’m out, Nation.
Be good.
October 18th, 2011 at 11:22 pm
I agree Armchair. Besides, a bird in the hand is better than 2 in the bush. Very fitting saying for our Raiders right now.
October 18th, 2011 at 11:26 pm
Worked out nicely for us with Seymour.
October 18th, 2011 at 11:31 pm
Campbell not playing again this year unless injuries occur.
Just got word from Hue, Palmer is starting this week.
October 18th, 2011 at 11:33 pm
Why does everyone keep saying that palmer is not the paler of 2004 or 05?
I don’t think he is expected or needed to be.
Campbell was averaging 195 yards a game with 6 TDs and 4 picks.
Thats 3120 yards with 16 TDs and 11 Ints
In 2010 Palmer averaged 248 yards per game and 26 TDs.
We don’t need 5000 yards passing to win. Palmer can make the throws to lead this offense.
October 18th, 2011 at 11:40 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEzdoVGFgIY
this is a quarterback
October 18th, 2011 at 11:40 pm
Evenin late nite crew,
Oh wee just got another to be pumped up for the Bears game. I know MikeG is headed down. Who else from the board is going to the bears game?
October 18th, 2011 at 11:44 pm
they need to make a roster move. they cut grigsby from practice squad and worked out lito again. so, they will likely IR jc, sign lito, and send parker and tonga back to the practice squad. i like how things are shaping up. we’ll have 3 vets at cb plu 2 promising rookies. gio, ndukwe, and mitchell behind huff and branch. curry solidifies the LB’s. d-line is stout. o-line is stout. wr/te/rb/qb all good.
October 18th, 2011 at 11:48 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 10:52 pm
I hope Palmer works out. The Raiders were truly between a rock & and hard place.
But Palmer hasn’t been a elite QB since 2006. So, I’m not going to throw Jason under the bus.
And, Nobody on this blog, knows how this is going to work out. You can do all the cheer-leading b.s. you want.
Later.
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jc was doing okay. that’s all. i know exactly how this will play out. why? because palmer is a very good qb. forget this mess about not being good since ‘06. bull! check out his stats from last year. 3900 yards and 26 td’s. jc could’t dream of that.
October 18th, 2011 at 11:51 pm
sullen1. you are not allowed to comment until after the superbowl.
October 19th, 2011 at 12:01 am
KoolKell and SnB are the only ones speaking truth on this blog. ‘Preciate that fellas.
All you fans like is a new face. Seems like that every year. It was like that with Grads, it was like that with Campbell, it’s like that with Palmer.
Yards yards yards, all you look at is yards. He also threw 20 interceptions. He put those teams in a lot of holes in games, which he had to throw to get them out of.
I’m not saying he’s going to be terrible, but be cautious with your expectations. Watch the tape. Tape don’t lie.
October 19th, 2011 at 12:48 am
For those of you thinking we paid too high a price for Palmer, that’s something a team with a franchise QB might say. Ask any team without a franchise QB what would they pay to get one and they say what will it take. Legitimate franchise QB’s are scarce. If you got a shot at the real deal, you best step up or get left in the dust.
Palmer’s acquisition changed the 2011 Oakland Raiders from a legitimate playoff contender to a legitimate Super Bowl contender all in one slick move. With the talent we have on board right now, we can compete against anybody. And, Hue’s not done yet. Today he also added another big time safety and is looking at another veteran CB. Like he said, “he will continue to make personnel changes as long as they make this team better”. He’s a man of his word. This acquisition is simply HUGE. The Raiders are BACK – BIG TIME!
I’d be remiss in not thanking Jason Campbell for helping to turn this team around. He is a real class guy & I wish him well. Actually, I hope he comes back as the BU-QB. I’d really like him to get a ring for his contributions when we take the Lombardi once again. We may be seeing the formation of a new dynasty. Al would have liked that.
October 19th, 2011 at 12:52 am
My god, I hope to hell JC gets on an AFC west team and starts against us. That’s 2 easy wins. 2 weeks Bresh won’t even have to practice his defense. Just run a cover 2. Jason gets freaked out by the “matchups” in cover 2 and just throws it to the d linemen.
October 19th, 2011 at 12:54 am
Sullivan – quit being a dick. It’s too late for your antics.
October 19th, 2011 at 12:55 am
Nite all, it’s been a great day for the Raider Nation.
October 19th, 2011 at 12:58 am
Wasbanned…you’red probably asleep…I’m heading there to. However, you’re right on point. He has all the tools…years of experience…and he has a decent defense getting better…has the number one running back in the league and a core of 6 excellent receivers and a tightend in Boss who can block and catch.
Like you point out…Run the offense and make a few throws….he doesn’t have to be superman…and our schedule isn’t that strong from here on out.
October 19th, 2011 at 12:59 am
Jb…it sure has been….a real great nite…nite all.
October 19th, 2011 at 2:03 am
This time yesterday I thought the Raiders would simply re-sign a QB they had in camp and move on with Boller.Aswell as that,I thought that the Bengals would never trade Palmer away.
So it’s offical.I don’t know squat.
October 19th, 2011 at 2:33 am
Sullivan44 Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 12:52 am
My god, I hope to hell JC gets on an AFC west team and starts against us. That’s 2 easy wins. 2 weeks Bresh won’t even have to practice his defense. Just run a cover 2. Jason gets freaked out by the “matchups” in cover 2 and just throws it to the d linemen.
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cmon sullivan. ur behind the times. ur talking about a past-raider now. there are new and current raiders for u to hate on. keep the pace.
October 19th, 2011 at 2:38 am
palmer = potential top 5 qb.
October 19th, 2011 at 2:42 am
Sullivan is a former Raiders fan who quit and became a 49ers fan when the Raiders left for LA. Ie, he does NOT support the Raiders. He supports the 49ers today.
October 19th, 2011 at 2:44 am
Basically, MR/Sullivan/Halverson/RaiderAlley/etc is just a 49ers fan who enjoys riding this board for laughs and reactions.
October 19th, 2011 at 2:49 am
he’s pathetic for spending so much of his life here.
October 19th, 2011 at 2:51 am
Yep, wastes his life riding Raiders fans, probably seldom posts among his Niners brethren, and uses an alias to laugh at Al’s death on the day he died.
October 19th, 2011 at 3:01 am
HueKnows Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 7:58 pm
Sullivan is so disliked people throw parties just so as not to invite him.
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yeah but he just comes anyway and sneaks in. and everyone’s like “dammit, how’d that tool get in here?”
October 19th, 2011 at 3:04 am
I’ll feel a lot better about all this once Palmer takes his first snap as a Raider! Until then…
October 19th, 2011 at 3:05 am
i will say this: i called this trade all day and night last nite. this was a big-balls move and i love it.
we have a real qb w/ skills passing to some very talented, blossoming wf’s along w/ a killer running attack.
defense is shaping up. curry, ndukwe, and i think lito, will add a lot too.
kickers are the best in the league.
ford is amazing on returns.
i had predicted 10-6 but i feel 12-4 or 13-3 is within reach. by the time we get to the playoffs, we will be a juggernaut on a mission. this could be one of the great stories of football history.
October 19th, 2011 at 3:07 am
my new prediction:
raiders 34
chiefs 13
October 19th, 2011 at 3:09 am
Looks like the Raiders are set at the QB position for the next 3 years. Palmer’s a Raider until 2014. By 2014 Pryor should be more than ready to take the reigns. Now, let’s work on that SECONDARY.
October 19th, 2011 at 3:15 am
I think Palmer will start this week because Hue investing so many picks to get Carson tells Boller he cannot be relied on, isn’t considered good enough, and so you cannot start Boller with him knowing this, has nothing to play well for, his own confidence will be shot even more.
It’s possible the Raiders give Palmer a pretty vanilla set of plays for the Chiefs game, (say 10 different passing plays and 10 different running plays), and then, with the bye straight after, the Raiders will have two weeks to get as much of the playbook into Carson as possible. And each week after, he’ll get more and more of it down pat.
October 19th, 2011 at 3:17 am
intense19 Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 3:09 am
Looks like the Raiders are set at the QB position for the next 3 years. Palmer’s a Raider until 2014. By 2014 Pryor should be more than ready to take the reigns. Now, let’s work on that SECONDARY.
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I’d say the QB position is set for 10 years if Pyror sits back and learns under Palmer. At some point in the next 3-4 years of Palmer’s 4 year contract, Pryor is going to be ready, and looking better in practice than a waning Palmer and will supplant him as starter and “hopefully” lead us for another 10 years.
October 19th, 2011 at 3:24 am
Draft picks are risky and first round draft picks rarely pan out immediately for a team unless the team already has the infrastructure to support them, or when there’s an incumbent in place that they can spend that first year studying and working with. I’d give up a draft pick for a proven veteran any day. The Raiders need help in the secondary and on the offensive line. You are not going to get the quality players needed to fill those positions from the draft. Hue has come to realize that picks are the bait you need to get the veterans you want (ala George Allen).
October 19th, 2011 at 3:28 am
As someone posted on PFT comments section…
the trade awaying of two 1sts (pretty much) is okay because the Raiders already have a plethora of young players in the team, they don’t need to rebuild due to an aging team. They’re already stocked up with young talent and just need that difference maker at QB who can take that young team forward together for 4 years.
October 19th, 2011 at 3:28 am
*trading away lol (it’s 3:30am gimme a break)
October 19th, 2011 at 3:35 am
And so it begins again…
And the winner with the exact score is:
Rosenthal’s pick: Raiders 24, Browns 17.
Honorable mention goes to:
Zymurge Raiders 23, Browns 17
LA for PAIN
THE RAIDER PREDICTION BOARD
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Protected by the rally squirrel and Coliseum rodents
First: Ghostraider (exact score)
Second: Sullivan44
Third: Pretty Rick
Fourth: Sullivan44
Fifth: Fingers
Sixth: Rosenthal (exact score)
Blackmamba_20 Raiders 34 Cheifs 16
Chris in NY Raiders 31-10
rob_raider raiders 34 chiefs 13
Try Some Reality Raiders 27 Chiefs 16
October 19th, 2011 at 3:36 am
Amazing! One little trade and BOOM 842 entries on the blog.
October 19th, 2011 at 3:37 am
Repeat question: Suppose I as the Raider GM want to trade for a QB let’s say. How does one do that exactly?
Anyone know?
October 19th, 2011 at 3:43 am
From the San Diego Union:
Written by
Kevin Acee
3:36 p.m., Oct. 18, 2011
Updated 8:48 p.m.
Also of interest
Raiders make moves in quest to win West
Bengals talk to Raiders about Palmer
Raiders acquire Carson Palmer from Bengals
AP source: Bengals talk to Raiders about Palmer
Good teams don’t get manhandled by the Raiders
Chargers players and others in the organization unanimously praised Carson Palmer and acknowledged their toughest division rival got a top-notch quarterback Tuesday.
The Chargers were already impressed with the Oakland Raiders, though, and expected them to deal for a quarterback after Jason Campbell was injured Sunday.
The thing they almost all marveled at was the price Oakland paid to get Palmer.
By sending the Cincinnati Bengals a first-round draft pick in 2012 and a second-round pick in 2013 (that reportedly could become a first-rounder should Oakland make it to the AFC title game in either of the next two seasons), the Raiders made it clear they are trying to break their eight-year streak of non-winning seasons and get to the postseason immediately.
“Wow,” one Chargers player said, expressing both admiration and surprise. “They’re definitely trying to win now.”
That said, the Chargers front office has believed all along it has made the moves to field a winner.
While the Raiders (4-2) swung one of the biggest trade-deadline deals ever, the Chargers (4-1) did not make a trade before Tuesday afternoon’s deadline.
After their best draft haul and most active free agency period in several years — and a few tweaks in the season’s first month — the team’s brass believes it is set to make a run to regain the AFC West supremacy it lost its grip on last year.
“We’d better be,” one insider said with a chuckle. “After (today), you have to look on the street for help if you need it.”
The Raiders clearly felt they weren’t set. (And they were fortunate enough to have their starting quarterback get hurt the Sunday before the trade deadline rather than any Sunday thereafter.)
The Raiders’ trade for Palmer, who had vowed to never play for Cincinnati again and had been placed on the team’s “retired” list, was their second deal in five days for a former first-round pick.
Before being essentially forced to pay the steep price for Palmer, the Raiders last week promised the Seattle Seahawks a seventh-rounder in 2012 and conditional fifth-round pick in 2013 in exchange for linebacker Aaron Curry.
Palmer was the first overall pick in the 2003 draft, Curry the fourth overall pick in 2009.
Whether their activity now or the Chargers’ activity before the season is the more effective play, the Raiders are clearly banking on this being the year they win their first AFC West title since 2002.
The two acquisitions give the Raiders 13 first-round picks on their roster, but Tuesday’s deal makes it unlikely they will add any more in the near future. In fact, the Raiders have no picks in the first four rounds in next year’s draft. (They do stand to get a bounty of compensatory picks, probably at least one after the third round, for losing a number of free agents.)
Still, two general managers said Tuesday that giving away even two picks in the first three rounds is like writing off your draft.
The trade was the kind of move so rare in October in the NFL. It was the type of splash that prompts immediate analysis, with people declaring winners and losers, assessing good and bad.
But all that can be said, for sure, is that the move was bold.
Palmer is a good quarterback who has an 86.9 passer rating in 97 career starts, which ranks 15th among QBs who have thrown at least 1,200 passes in that span. While certainly a victim of circumstance for much of his career, surrounded by suspect talent in Cincinnati, Palmer has been to the playoffs just twice in eight seasons. He has also been intercepted 100 times versus 154 touchdown passes and has a 3.1 percent interception rate that ties him for 25th in the NFL since ‘03.
The only certain winner in the trade, right now, is Cincinnati (as long as it executes its extra picks well).
We won’t know for several weeks if this move made a difference for the Raiders.
Certainly, it appears that it might.
While bringing in a quarterback midseason presents its challenges, the Raiders’ propensity to run — and do it effectively, leading the AFC at 160 yards per game — will help Palmer. Also, while he didn’t have training camp with the team and hasn’t played a game since January, Palmer’s matriculation will be aided by playing in an offense similar to what he ran in Cincinnati.
The schedule also sets up right, for the most part, for the Raiders.
They host Kansas City this week, presumably with Kyle Boller at quarterback, then have a bye. After their week off, they host Denver before their Nov. 10 showdown in San Diego.
In fact, seemingly more troublesome for the Chargers than who the Raiders have at quarterback is who the Raiders play the rest of the way.
While the Chargers’ remaining 11 opponents have a combined .587 winning percentage, the Raiders’ remaining 10 games are against teams with a combined .518 winning percentage. Moreover, immediately after their upcoming three-game run through division foes (with Kansas City and Denver visiting Oakland), the Raiders play at Minnesota (1-5), Chicago (3-3) and Miami (0-5).
The Raiders may well win the AFC West. But that was entirely possible before they acquired Palmer.
October 19th, 2011 at 3:43 am
Raiders 27……… Chefs 17……..
Long live Raider Nation!
October 19th, 2011 at 3:48 am
Qodrn…
Rosenthals shouldn’t be awarded the winning prediction. He’s not a blog member, yes?
Zymurge’s prediction of Raiders 23, Browns 17 is the closest and should be the winner, no?
October 19th, 2011 at 3:51 am
Boller apparently wasn’t good enough, in Jackson’s estimation, to hold down the fort, either. That, or Jackson simply found the opening he needed to find someone better than Campbell.
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That is really the crux of the matter Steve.
It was obvious from last year’s benching of Campbell that Hue and Cable agreed on, that Jackson didn’t really think that Campbell was the guy.
He’s a great guy and would make a dependable back-up but he has a slow release, takes too long to read the defense and runs like a deer caught in the headlights. The man is really nervous out there.
Looking at it from Hue’s point of view, this is Jackson’s shot this year. He needs to improve on Cable’s record of 8-8.
He had to do something and pickings were slim.
Boller would probably keep us going until the bye but probably wouldn’t survive as a quarterback in ten games when you’re hoping to go to the playoffs?
It is a very big price to pay though for a retired, thirty-two-year-old QB who hasn’t played all year.
It’s true that when the great Plunket came on board he was 33 but Al didn’t give up two first round picks for him.
The notion from some of the Nation that we don’t need picks because we’re choking with so many great young players is only partly true and mostly silly.
The offensive line is playing well together but they are an average line with a suspect right side.
We are also the 28th team on defense, currently 16th against he run and 28th against the pass.
To say we don’t need draft picks is crazy.
Just how long do you think Henderson will go? Do you see Seymour playing for ever?
Despite all the reasons not to do it I’m still on board with it because, if his elbow is healed and he’s healthy, we now have a better quarterback than we did last week.
It just seems to me that Hue could have gotten a better deal.
Would Al have done? Absolutely.
Welcome Palmer, now fuk’n earn it.
Raiders uber alles!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 19th, 2011 at 4:03 am
Couple of things to get off my chest real quick…
Best way to judge really is in hindsight.
Wait and see who the two players the Bengals draft, and give them 2-3 years each to see if they boom or bust. And wait and see what Palmer does for Oakland in the next 4 years of his contract…and….how Pryor comes along in that time under the tutelage of Palmer/Jackson.
Or, perhaps, see if the Raiders win a Super Bowl in the next two years.
Btw, you can bet the football gods will be planning a Bengals-vs-Raiders playoff game this year the way both teams are currently going. That would be something!
And…
Another thing, for several years I’ve been kinda predicting/anticipating that the next time the Bengals make the Super Bowl it will once again be against the Niners. Both Bengals SB appearances have been against the Niners.
Look at the standings/form this year….the Bengals are doing great and the Niners are too. If not this year, maybe next year, look for a Bengals-Niners SB. I’m superstitious like that.
October 19th, 2011 at 4:06 am
The trading away of two 1sts (pretty much) is okay because the Raiders already have a plethora of young players in the team, they don’t need to rebuild due to an aging team. They’re already stocked up with young talent and just need that difference maker at QB who can take that young team forward together for 4 years.
By then too Terrelle Pryor has learned under Palmer and Jackson for 3-4 years and is ready to lead the Raiders for another 10 years. Around the 3rd or 4th season, it’s possible Palmer is on the wane and Pryor is looking better than him in training, and will take over. (if of course, Pryor’s development all goes to plan).
I see it as a win-win really. Bengals get a guaranteed 1st and possibly another 1st (if Raiders make it to the AFC Championship** game either this year or next). Those picks would be possibly in the mid-late 20’s, and can grab some good rookie prospects. Remembering the draft is a crap shoot. And it’s a win for the Raiders because they get a pro-bowl caliber QB, someone who can actually pass downfield and assert a passing game, thus forcing defenses to protect both pass and run, thus helping McFadden generate even more yards/TDs. As the last few weeks he’s been loaded up against, teams daring the below-average Campbell/Boller to pass, and they have been meh to woeful at it.
October 19th, 2011 at 4:08 am
GG:
Good Point. I will sleep on that. Any thoughts from the blog?
(I wasn’t expecting a “expert” to get it right, he he)
October 19th, 2011 at 4:16 am
Thoughts on the blog…
The Chargers know it was a bold move and are quietly even more scared and respectful of the Raiders.
October 19th, 2011 at 4:25 am
Hi all!!
Sitting at the 50 row 5 I was marveling at how much time
soup was getting from the O line and how little he achieved with it.I dreamed of Palmer but was scared of
losing M Bush.Got Palmer…kept M Bush…enjoy the two
picks Cinci…(Tip…try to avoid jamarcus’s)…don’t
remember the last QB we took #1 that was worth a rats azz
October 19th, 2011 at 4:34 am
Palmer gives the Raiders a bigger shot at going into the playoffs ….I’d rather have the chance to actually do something than save higher draft picks for what?… The name of the game is to win the superbowl not just be an ” also ran”… This is a good gamble for the Raiders and us fans…
And I like that Hue Jackson is bold enough to take chances… At the sametime I expect him to be smart while taking those chances… Its like being in a 32 team lottery , those that take the biggest chances have the chance to get the bigger rewards … Again, this is a good trade… And well worth the price to be able to make this gamble..
Long live Raider Nation…
October 19th, 2011 at 4:36 am
understandably lost today was much mention of ndukwe. this kid is good. former starter. big, fast, and smart. was really good at notre dame. watched him play all his games there. he’ll be a nice addition.
October 19th, 2011 at 4:36 am
You bet this trade has got the attention of the Chargers as well as the rest of the Afc and NFl…
October 19th, 2011 at 4:43 am
what up NATION?????
October 19th, 2011 at 4:44 am
The chefs have been playing some good football recently and have won the last two games. This was never going to be an easy game IMO… We need to be 100 percennt prepared for this team….
October 19th, 2011 at 4:44 am
Do not overlook KC…
October 19th, 2011 at 4:44 am
Yes, I wonder about Ndukwe. Obviously Hue is worried about the Safeties and Corners. Does this mean what? Huff focuses more on Nickel and RCB? Branch to FS? Mitchell and Ndukwe the SS. With Boyd, Giordano released?
October 19th, 2011 at 4:49 am
True… Can’t overlook any Teams the Raiders play….and KC should be the focus … Afc west games are always a war…
Even with Boller starting Sunday I believe the Raiders can beat the Chefs …
McFadden has had some good games aginst KC and I remember how our defense threw Cassell around last year and the defense this year better…
October 19th, 2011 at 4:51 am
Giordano made an awesome play on the sack late in the game…showed a lot of speed…amazed their QB got back up…the ball flew way over our heads.He’s contributed a
lot when our secondary looked like a hospital ward.I would hate to see him go.
October 19th, 2011 at 4:53 am
Jason Campbell, hope you have a speedy recovery. Thank you for all of your hard work and dedication. The work you did in the off season has paid dividends.
A lot of people on this blog soon forget that you hosted our WR corps during the lockout, and with your own money and took care of them.
DHB has grown considerable and YOU had a lot to do with that growth…. Our team is in debted to you.
Thank you…
October 19th, 2011 at 4:59 am
What a week….things have been happening fast…
It’s enough to make a persons head spin …
Long Live Raider Nation…
October 19th, 2011 at 5:02 am
Wow, I thought I was being a tad harsh on Soup, until I watched Hue dancing all over his grave in his presser.
I take my cues from our HC.
October 19th, 2011 at 5:07 am
Rob_Raider,
You called it. I thought (and posted) that Palmer would be great for us, but I didn’t think in a million years that Mike Brown would let him go to another AFC team when his team was (in the early going, anyway) in the playoff hunt.
In the end, I think it will turn out to be a win for both sides. I think Palmer will be better for us than Campbell, and Cincy gets to continue to build their young team.
Wouldn’t it be great if the two “jokes of the AFC” the last few years became the powers in the conference over the next several? I don’t know a lot about the Bengals’ progress, but I think we’re THIS close to being a special team. Can’t wait to see what happens!
October 19th, 2011 at 5:13 am
551.GG Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 4:44 am
Yes, I wonder about Ndukwe. Obviously Hue is worried about the Safeties and Corners. Does this mean what? Huff focuses more on Nickel and RCB? Branch to FS? Mitchell and Ndukwe the SS. With Boyd, Giordano released?
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Maybe. I think Hue & co. might also be trying to upgrade the special teams as well as allowing for more flexibility in the secondary.
Special teams play is as important as anything else, especially in the playoffs.
October 19th, 2011 at 5:15 am
I liked the stop gap QB that JC was. As a matter of fact he was head and shoulders above that dead carcass that we waisted 39 mill and a first round pick on in the draft…you know…the one who shall remain nameless?
I am starting to think that using draft picks on “maybe” players out of college is a waist.
We KNOW what we are getting with Carson Palmer…I would rather have used those picks on him.
The Raiders have been so down over the last few years we have enough draft talent. we can afford those picks. Beyond 2013? DON’T DO IT AGAIN!
There can be only 1 NATION!!! RAIDER NATION!!!
October 19th, 2011 at 5:18 am
Rob_Raider also went on and on about how Soup was a better QB than Eli Manning.
Even proclaimed victory, based on QB ratings, after two weeks.
Funny thing is, he stopped giving us the weekly QB rating ranks after the second week.
October 19th, 2011 at 5:23 am
It appears Hue was never totally sold on Campbell
…Campbell has to know this was a decision Hue had to make due to his injury… It just wasn’t gonna get done with Boller….things happen for a reason.. The odds that Palmer was gonna be there and Hue had a relationship with Bengal management is amazing… On top of the death of Al Davis…sheeeshh… Talk about Fate… Wow…
I thought the Raiders were capable of winning the afc west with a healthy Campbell but I was never comfortable watching him play…it also seems that Campbell wasn’t as smooth as he should have been ..
October 19th, 2011 at 5:28 am
Yep, Russell tainted our view of Qbs here in Raider nation….I started comparing our Qbs to the Bum…and Russell was 100 % bum..anybody looked good compared to Russell so it was easy to settle for The Qbs after Russell… JaMarcus really set the Raiders back…
October 19th, 2011 at 5:29 am
Listening to Hue talk, doesn’t seem like Soup was going to be a long-term answer, unless we won a few playoff games this year.
Jason Campbell served his role improving this team, just as Cable did as well.
In the business world, you have to buy low and sell high.
We did with both Cable and Campbell.
October 19th, 2011 at 5:34 am
edward teach Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 5:13 am
Maybe. I think Hue & co. might also be trying to upgrade the special teams as well as allowing for more flexibility in the secondary.
Special teams play is as important as anything else, especially in the playoffs.
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to the the tune of two TD’s and a FG last Sunday!!!
October 19th, 2011 at 5:35 am
Fingers, very good point you make – FATE.
So much has been fateful in the last decade even, but especially the last 3-4 years, from Kiffin to Cable to Jackson, to where we are now, the death of Davis, the torch of his passed down to the right man in Hue and Carson.
October 19th, 2011 at 5:36 am
It’s a tough break for Soup! From me he gets his props! Soup is/was a class act! He helped bring this team out of the gutter and I think Coach gives him serious respect for that even if he doesn’t stay on the team. From all I’ve read Soup wants to be a starter, although I don’t believe that’s here at the Raiders anymore, there are a ton of teams out there that need Soups Level headedness at the QB spot!
Get well quick Soup and whatever you decide to do, good luck and I for one will think of you with respect and kindness! You are great, if you want to be better I think you’re going to have to look elswhere at this point for next year! Thank for being a great Raider!
I just think if wants to start, it’s not going to be here, unless, God forbid, Palmer gets hurt and we have to rely on Boller again.
Soup took the first “real” step up with Coaches help, and I think all Raider fans need to be a little respectful of that.
Get well soon Soup!
October 19th, 2011 at 5:41 am
Raiderbuck… Agree… Soup made this team better…
October 19th, 2011 at 5:45 am
Raiderbuck <——-great post well said…
October 19th, 2011 at 5:45 am
The draft is like buying 2YO horses for racing at auction
….no clue what you’re getting but it’s got great potential.Big Rich was our last “#1 pick” and all we got
outta that was our D’s heart and soul and captain, a man
our younger players look too for leadership,his D line peers look up too and a man who’s play on Sunday’s is outstanding.Good luck with those picks Cinci.
October 19th, 2011 at 5:47 am
I like the kid Giordano…He seems to be around the ball all the time…Has good instincts, can hit, and has great timing on blitzes… not sure if he stays however he was a good find for us.
October 19th, 2011 at 5:51 am
Btw, this trade also calls for me to re-write a popular song on my blog (click my name) to include Carson Palmer.
In due time.
October 19th, 2011 at 5:52 am
THIS K.C. GAME IS HUUGE…DIV./ CONF. WIN AND UR 5-2 GOING INTO THE BYE.PALMER GETS SOME TIME 2 ADJUST..LOSS DOES NOT KILL U,BUT.WIN THIS AND I THINK THIS TEAM COULD GET ON A SERIOUS ROLL..
COULD HUE JACKSON AND CARSON PALMER BE ANOTHER JON GRUDEN / RICH GANNON ..
October 19th, 2011 at 5:52 am
This game, as Soup is learning and plenty before him have learned as well, is a business first and foremost.
I look at Soup as collateral damage. He served his purpose triaging the QB situation, but he was never an answer in Hue’s eyes.
Sometimes in business, you don’t care who you step on to the top, and sometimes it sucks to step on guys like Soup to get to the top, BUT THEY MUST GET STEPPED ON.
October 19th, 2011 at 5:52 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Giordano stays right? Wait…if they get rid of 3 guys in the secondary…something is wrong!!!
October 19th, 2011 at 5:57 am
hwnrdr, whats good? Does B@uce have intel on you? I will be at the game on sunday, would like to meet you, as well as some of the other Semi’s on the blog…
October 19th, 2011 at 5:58 am
edward teach Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 5:13 am
551.GG Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 4:44 am
Yes, I wonder about Ndukwe. Obviously Hue is worried about the Safeties and Corners. Does this mean what? Huff focuses more on Nickel and RCB? Branch to FS? Mitchell and Ndukwe the SS. With Boyd, Giordano released?
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Maybe. I think Hue & co. might also be trying to upgrade the special teams as well as allowing for more flexibility in the secondary.
Special teams play is as important as anything else, especially in the playoffs.
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I believe Boyd was released for Ndukwe. Probably just a move where they liked Ndukwe a little more as a player. I presume he’ll just take Boyd’s role, special teams and play defense in some packages.
October 19th, 2011 at 5:59 am
Alex7, did we agree to double down on the detroit game?
October 19th, 2011 at 5:59 am
Chucky B may have requested that Ndukwe signing since he coached him in Cincy and knows him as a player.
October 19th, 2011 at 6:00 am
I want to see Gio stay…He makes plays…
October 19th, 2011 at 6:00 am
NATION! A great day. A franchise QB for the next 5 years.
Here’s a little something to start your day, believe it’s from Bengals.com, though I picked it up from someone else:
“Former Bengals receiver T.J. Houshmandzadeh has been working out with new Raiders quarterback (and former “retired” Bengal) Carson Palmer all year. He told Bengals.com that Palmer’s elbow, which caused him to miss 12 games in 2008 with a frayed ulna nerve, was still hurt last year.
“I threw with him before last season and he was OK, but he wasn’t zipping it like he used to. I thought he was hurt,” Houshmandzadeh said. “This year, oh man, it’s about as good as I’ve ever seen him. He’s healthy. He’s throwing it like the Carson of old.””
Like the Carson of old….who was a top 5 QB in 2005 & 2006.
The NFL is ON NOTICE because it’s a CODE BLACK
October 19th, 2011 at 6:01 am
This is truly a special year.We’ve got now 13 1st rounders on the roster.Most of em someone else picked.
It’s Al’s way and Hues following the blueprint.Curry’s
tackle from the other side on the back with 3 linemen
out in front was amazing.I like first rounders…perhaps
we can get the guy Cinci picks in a year or two after they’ve finished misusing him.
October 19th, 2011 at 6:01 am
CODE BLACK
October 19th, 2011 at 6:02 am
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 5:52 am
THIS K.C. GAME IS HUUGE…DIV./ CONF. WIN AND UR 5-2 GOING INTO THE BYE.PALMER GETS SOME TIME 2 ADJUST..LOSS DOES NOT KILL U,BUT.WIN THIS AND I THINK THIS TEAM COULD GET ON A SERIOUS ROLL..
COULD HUE JACKSON AND CARSON PALMER BE ANOTHER JON GRUDEN / RICH GANNON ..
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I wouldn’t say its a “must-win” with plenty of season to go, but it is a very, very, very important win to have. A few reasons:
1) Division games have added weight with tiebreakers
2) Got to beat the teams you’re supposed to beat at home
3) Keep the momentum rolling off the last couple of wins, excitement of the Palmer trade, etc.
October 19th, 2011 at 6:02 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 5:52 am
This game, as Soup is learning and plenty before him have learned as well, is a business first and foremost.
I look at Soup as collateral damage. He served his purpose triaging the QB situation, but he was never an answer in Hue’s eyes.
Sometimes in business, you don’t care who you step on to the top, and sometimes it sucks to step on guys like Soup to get to the top, BUT THEY MUST GET STEPPED ON.
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Amen JFB. You wish nice guys like Campbell didn’t have to get stepped on, but that Lombardi Trophy is all that ever mattered to the old man and it’s all that matters to Hue.
I thank Campbell for providing a winning record for the Raiders as a starter, think he took a lot of undeserved heat and wish him the best wherever he lands, execpt when he plays the Raiders
October 19th, 2011 at 6:02 am
The main reason Palmer will start or at least be active this week is Pryor would be the backup if anything happened to Boller
October 19th, 2011 at 6:03 am
Twinkle Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 6:01 am
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Very interesting post…why draft a guy in the first round when you can pick up another teams first on the cheap…
October 19th, 2011 at 6:04 am
huronraider Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 6:02 am
The main reason Palmer will start or at least be active this week is Pryor would be the backup if anything happened to Boller
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Wouldn’t surprise me to see Boller start with Palmer as #2 with Boller operating on a very short leash.
October 19th, 2011 at 6:05 am
The only real gem 1st rounder we’ve got in years is Jano
and look what all the “experts” said about that.M.Kiper
Jn you are a total scam.
October 19th, 2011 at 6:06 am
in the PFT article “Wednesday Morning One-Liners”, click the link “Mike Brown’s Finest Hour”, and lol at that Bengals journalist.
October 19th, 2011 at 6:07 am
Twinkle Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 6:05 am
The only real gem 1st rounder we’ve got in years is Jano
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Despite what some people will tell you, that Asomugha kid is pretty good. And the guy currently wearing #20 in the backfield.
October 19th, 2011 at 6:07 am
I would say the KC game is a must win as we are behind schdule, and still behind the chargers….
Go check KC they are playing some good ball as of late.
the disc is not the same team of the last few years…
However, we need to keep pace with them….
October 19th, 2011 at 6:07 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 6:00 am
NATION! A great day. A franchise QB for the next 5 years.
Here’s a little something to start your day, believe it’s from Bengals.com, though I picked it up from someone else:
“Former Bengals receiver T.J. Houshmandzadeh has been working out with new Raiders quarterback (and former “retired” Bengal) Carson Palmer all year. He told Bengals.com that Palmer’s elbow, which caused him to miss 12 games in 2008 with a frayed ulna nerve, was still hurt last year.
“I threw with him before last season and he was OK, but he wasn’t zipping it like he used to. I thought he was hurt,” Houshmandzadeh said. “This year, oh man, it’s about as good as I’ve ever seen him. He’s healthy. He’s throwing it like the Carson of old.””
Like the Carson of old….who was a top 5 QB in 2005 & 2006.
The NFL is ON NOTICE because it’s a CODE BLACK
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Interesting.
I saw that headline somewhere and I ignored it because, come on, what is Housh gonna say about his friend and the guy he’s been working with? That he stinks? He’s done? So I just didn’t give it much credibility.
However, the detail he provides tells me that he’s probably preaching the truth there. We’ll see, but that’s a very good indicator to me. Thanks S&BPA
October 19th, 2011 at 6:08 am
did you guys know plunkett sat out a year before joining the Raiders?
October 19th, 2011 at 6:09 am
Go check KC they are playing some good ball as of late.
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Not worried about KC. They got the schit beat out of them by 3 good teams and only got their two wins by beating two crap teams.
Our defensive line ate their offensive line’s lunch in both games last week and this year it might be worse.
October 19th, 2011 at 6:10 am
In his interview Carson said he was 100%… He looks to be in good shape however, this has been a whirlwind for him… It showed in his interview…
October 19th, 2011 at 6:10 am
However, the detail he provides tells me that he’s probably preaching the truth there. We’ll see, but that’s a very good indicator to me. Thanks S&BPA
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You’re welcome, Chris. I agree, it seemed like an honest assessment. If Houshmanzadeh had denied anything had been wrong with Palmer the past couple years, it would’ve been suspect.
October 19th, 2011 at 6:10 am
I didn’t like what we gave up for Palmer at first, but it is apparent that Boller is not the answer. Win now. Thank you for all you did Jason-tough break. Carson now is your time to lead us to the Super Bowl. Next Man Up.
October 19th, 2011 at 6:11 am
Thec07 Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 6:08 am
did you guys know plunkett sat out a year before joining the Raiders?
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Yup. As Phil Villipiano has said he was “mending his head” and working all the awful times in San Fran and New England out of his mind.
October 19th, 2011 at 6:11 am
Errr…both games last year. LOL. More coffee
October 19th, 2011 at 6:11 am
Palmer will start.Like Boler as a backup.Sunday was great in no turnovers and moved the ball.All you can ask from someone that holds the clipboard.Palmer is a gift
from god and the entire NFL knows what the man can do.
I still can’t believe he’s a Raider.What a season!!!!
October 19th, 2011 at 6:12 am
575.Thec07 Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 5:57 am
hwnrdr, whats good? Does B@uce have intel on you? I will be at the game on sunday, would like to meet you, as well as some of the other Semi’s on the blog…
What’s up Thec07? Yes B@UCE has my number and I always text my location when we get in. I’m always in D Lot and the last 2 games we have been in row 8 in front of Oracle’s North Entrance! If you meet up with him, follow him down to the lot…
October 19th, 2011 at 6:14 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 6:11 am
Errr…both games last year. LOL. More coffee
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I got what you were saying Brother…the correction police don’t wake up this early…
All I am saying is don’t sleep on them…
Like you illustrated, we need to attack from both sides of the ball at the LOS…
October 19th, 2011 at 6:14 am
Was watching that NFL 32 show last night and whatever dumb lady they had sitting in for Suzy Kolber kept screeching (really, she weas yelling) “MORTGAGE THE FUTURE MORTGAGE THE FUTURE”
Wanted to climb through the screen and tell her “Raiders are one of the youngest teams in the league you stupid cow. The future is NOW.”
I still like Mel Kiper’s point that because the Raiders have gotten such incredible value out of hte mid rounds the past few years, it’s easier for them to sacrifice a 1st and potentially two because they’ve already stocked their roster with good players.
Mike Wilbon also defended the trade on PTI against that braying jackass Kornheiser.
Kiper and Wilbon are the only two “experts” I’ve seen who truly seem to get it
October 19th, 2011 at 6:15 am
hwnrdr, Thanks for the intel Brethren…Look forward to meeting you…
October 19th, 2011 at 6:15 am
Yeah this upcoming game against kc has me a little nervous too. It’s one of those games you have to win because We have to get up for this game after 2 emotional games and it will be tough but i think we’re on a mini roll right now. This team is starting to believe and it feels good!
RAIDERS 24
chiefs 13
CODE BLACK!!!
October 19th, 2011 at 6:17 am
Never liked Kornheiser…One of the biggest Donkeys ever (and Donkey not meaning Bronco)! I’m glad he’s off MNF!
October 19th, 2011 at 6:17 am
the chicago bears give up 2 first and a 3rd and players for cunler….No metion of that right????
October 19th, 2011 at 6:19 am
No problem Thec07…last week B came late, like around 10ish. Then Norco Bob rolled through, and 707…it was interesting! I finally met DMAC also last week…
If you roll through early, hit me up…
Here’s my email… durbshot@comcast.net
October 19th, 2011 at 6:19 am
mike and mike are both idiots….
golic gets on this morning talking about ” carson palmer has not played in a log time”….
the way he puts it palmer asnt played in years….
Dikhead…
October 19th, 2011 at 6:20 am
Thec07 Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 6:17 am
the chicago bears give up 2 first and a 3rd and players for cunler….No metion of that right????
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Very, very few people have brought that up. As I said yesterday, when you look at what Cutler, Kolb and Schaub cost their teams, then compare those QBs with Palmer, the Raiders paid market price. It’s a steep price, sure, but that’s what QBs cost.
October 19th, 2011 at 6:20 am
golic gets on this morning talking about ” carson palmer has not played in a log time”….
the way he puts it palmer asnt played in years….
Dikhead…
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LOL. Palmer has missed 5 or 6 games. What a deuche.
October 19th, 2011 at 6:23 am
BUT THEY MUST GET STEPPED ON.
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LOL
October 19th, 2011 at 6:24 am
Yes, I wake up to mike and mike in the morning, let me tell copy scrawny Greenberg, said wow what a deal for the Bengals. And they both said this is a big roll of the dice for the raiders, sure h is 38, must came off an acl tear, torn ligiments. But honestly, he had to old receivers last year, did you see there numbers? He made t.o look God last year, and this was with a bum elbow!
October 19th, 2011 at 6:24 am
Hwnrdr, just sent you an email…
October 19th, 2011 at 6:28 am
Do we know if Palmer or Boller is starting against KC?
October 19th, 2011 at 6:28 am
elraidmanhattan, right… The thing I like most about the media is how wrong they were about this team….
Example:
The Raiders lost, nam21, zmiller, & gallery… The will slide to 6-10 blah blah blah dont renew cable
blah blah blah….
Media, WTF do you really know about this team????
The Semi’s on this blog Know WAAAAYYYYYY more then the mediots flat out….
October 19th, 2011 at 6:28 am
Do we know if Palmer or Boller is starting against KC?
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In his presser coach was asked, and would not say…
October 19th, 2011 at 6:29 am
Thec: getting Cutler was a good move by the Bears.
giving him the league’s worst O-Line and WR corps to work with is just plain stupid (and cheap)
October 19th, 2011 at 6:30 am
IT IS A GREAT DEAL 4 CINCY..A WEEK AGO,PALMER IS “RETIRED”.ALL THE SUDDEN CINCY HAS A 1ST RD PICK POSSABLY 2 1ST ROUNDERS IN THE BAG..GREAT 4 BOTH TEAMS IMO.
October 19th, 2011 at 6:30 am
Carson Palmer = 2003 Kerry Collins. Both 32 years old. Both coming in having their best seasons behind them. Everyone excited to have him come in and “spread the field”.Collins had a smaller interceptions ratio though
October 19th, 2011 at 6:32 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 6:29 am
Thec: getting Cutler was a good move by the Bears.
giving him the league’s worst O-Line and WR corps to work with is just plain stupid (and cheap)
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RR, I get that Bruh, I am not suggesting that cunler is bad because I beleive he is a good QB…the point I am trying to make is they never talk about market value…Good QB’s come at a premium….
they make it seem like we got r@ped when we paid fair market value…
October 19th, 2011 at 6:32 am
If we win it all this year, do you think that JC will wear his ring with pride.
October 19th, 2011 at 6:32 am
Carson Palmer = 2003 Kerry Collins
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please leave idiot
October 19th, 2011 at 6:32 am
WILL BE THERE SUNDAY THEC / HWNDR.WILL BE GOOD 2 C U GUY’S.SAVE ME A COCTAIL OR 12..
October 19th, 2011 at 6:36 am
614.Thec07 Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 6:24 am
Hwnrdr, just sent you an email…
Got it! See you Sunday!
October 19th, 2011 at 6:37 am
624.DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 6:32 am
WILL BE THERE SUNDAY THEC / HWNDR.WILL BE GOOD 2 C U GUY’S.SAVE ME A COCTAIL OR 12..
Will do, bro!
October 19th, 2011 at 6:37 am
please leave idiot
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LOL!
The guy kinda has a point though.
Palmer threw a lot of bad picks last year.
I hope Hue doesn’t get carried away and thinks he has this new toy that he needs to unleash. I hope we keep the exact same gameplans and pass the ball no more than 25 times a game or so.
October 19th, 2011 at 6:40 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 6:32 am
Carson Palmer = 2003 Kerry Collins
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please leave idiot
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Thank you!
October 19th, 2011 at 6:45 am
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 6:32 am
WILL BE THERE SUNDAY THEC / HWNDR.WILL BE GOOD 2 C U GUY’S.SAVE ME A COCTAIL OR 12..
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Great…Look forward to meeting you…
October 19th, 2011 at 6:45 am
We run the ball…Cinci didn’t…Rather have CP managing
the O than any other option that was available.So glad
we didn’t have to give anything valuable like M Bush.
October 19th, 2011 at 6:47 am
Wow.
On monday I said I would not give up a 1st rounder for Carson, we gave up a 1st and a 2nd-1st, well now that is done and after taking a closer look and learning he’s signed until 2014 (I thought he was a FA next year) I say it was a decent trade with major upside.
- Take a look at the roster and the only really important players over 30 are Kelly, Henderson and Seymour, but it seems like they can play for at least 2 more years.
- Our best player DMAC is entering his prime, RB’s don’t last too long and he takes a lot of pounding, it’s a great idea to take advantage of his best years with an above average QB, we have one now.
- Same goes for the WR’s, they have a QB to build a rapport with over the next 3 years and the time will come when we will lose 1 or 2 because it will be hard to re-sign all of them when their contracts are up.
- As far as losing the 2 picks, I’ll go back to what Bill Polian said last year, a study of the last 20 something drafts concluded that just 50% of 1st round picks live up to expectations, so it’s not like we lost a couple of sure things.
- OL Veldheer, Wisniewski, Satele, Barksdale, Bruce Campbell, all 26 or younger.
- DL Houston, Shaughnessy, Dez Bryant, Trev Scott, Jarvis Moss, the last 2 are the oldest at 27.
- LB McClain, Curry, Wimbley and Groves, Wimbley the oldest at 28.
- DB’s Routt, Huff, Branch, Mitchell, DVD, Chekwa, Routt and Huff are the old men at 28.
- WR’s DHB, Murphy, Ford, Moore, Schilnes, Chaz is the oldest at 25.
- TE´s Boss, Myers, Gordon and Ausberry, Boss oldest at 27.
- RB’s DMAC, Bush, Taiwan and Reece, Bush the oldest at 27.
This team doesn’t need to get younger, they need a veteran QB who can read a defense, anticipate the coverage-blits and make plays with his arm so all the skill position talent is maximized, Palmer fits the bill.
Also, the fact that Hue and Carson go back to College makes it easier to digest, Hue knows what he can get from Palmer, who will also get to work with Al Saunders, an excellent tutor for QB’s.
October 19th, 2011 at 6:47 am
Rockstar…what’s up man? Dirt Lot and I was talking at the Patriots game…one day we have to find a way to bring you back to the Town for a gmae!
October 19th, 2011 at 6:49 am
Twinkle Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 6:45 am
We run the ball…Cinci didn’t…Rather have CP managing
the O than any other option that was available.So glad
we didn’t have to give anything valuable like M Bush.
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natti had the nerver to ask for curry…ROFLMAO…I thought he was a bust????
October 19th, 2011 at 6:52 am
natti had the nerver to ask for curry…ROFLMAO…I thought he was a bust????
I know right?
October 19th, 2011 at 6:52 am
Manning is 35, Brady is 34, Brees is 32 and almost a full year older than Palmer, Kurt Warner was 36-37 when he took the Cardinals back to the SB.
Age is not a concern, health may be.
October 19th, 2011 at 6:53 am
WONDER HOW TIX SALES R GOING 4 K.C. GAME.4 IN A ROW ?
October 19th, 2011 at 6:54 am
Twinkle Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 6:40 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 6:32 am
Carson Palmer = 2003 Kerry Collins
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please leave idiot
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Thank you!
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Thank you. Kerry Collins? Seriously?
October 19th, 2011 at 6:57 am
Carson Palmer = Ray Allen
October 19th, 2011 at 7:01 am
I think now with the acquisition of Palmer…KC just may sell out too!
Funny , yesterday a 49er fan at work told me that he was jealous of The Raiders now…we have a qb that can get the ball to the receivers…he told me that he wants Pryor…lol, I told him he can have Boller!
October 19th, 2011 at 7:01 am
CARSON PALMER = CARSON PALMER
October 19th, 2011 at 7:08 am
Still in some kind of shock that the trade happened.
October 19th, 2011 at 7:09 am
Good Afternoon Neil! How’s things across the Atlantic?
October 19th, 2011 at 7:11 am
Everyone be real quiet and listen…………sshhh listen…………….Hear that?
That noise is the rest of the league $hitting themselves with fear.
October 19th, 2011 at 7:12 am
Overall a very gutsy move by the raiders,could have been complacent, took a chance and I believe it will reap benefits, Palmer is completely healed, and has that renewed vigor, hey the comparison to gannon is they are both intelligent qb’s, one thing I felt with Campbell is that his reactions were slow, we are getting a qb who is quick at reacting, with a fantastic arm. Timing will be the issue, not worried about Playbook. And the llw brows here comparing Palmer to Collins just don’t know football.
October 19th, 2011 at 7:13 am
Morning Hwnrdr!
Like I said,still in a state of shock…….but very happy!
October 19th, 2011 at 7:16 am
…………only problem I’ve got is that I’m working this Sunday night and will miss the game.
October 19th, 2011 at 7:18 am
elraidmanhattan Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 7:12 am
Overall a very gutsy move by the raiders,could have been complacent, took a chance and I believe it will reap benefits, Palmer is completely healed, and has that renewed vigor, hey the comparison to gannon is they are both intelligent qb’s, one thing I felt with Campbell is that his reactions were slow, we are getting a qb who is quick at reacting, with a fantastic arm. Timing will be the issue, not worried about Playbook. And the llw brows here comparing Palmer to Collins just don’t know football.
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That was always my knock on Campbell as well. That and an unwillingness to push the ball down field into tight spots. He really seemed to get much better at both things this year and that’s why he was so improved over last year. But he’s still not Carson Palmer in either regard.
October 19th, 2011 at 7:20 am
Chris in NY Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 6:54 am
Twinkle Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 6:40 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 6:32 am
Carson Palmer = 2003 Kerry Collins
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please leave idiot
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Thank you!
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Thank you. Kerry Collins? Seriously?
On both counts.K Collins was a Raider and played well
at times and I cheered for him as hard as I could.It was obvious he was not going to carry the team…we had a lot of deficiencies at that time but he was who we had.Now we have C Palmer who is not = to K Collins
but far better hence the thank you for the “just leave”
to the poster who suggested that he was.
October 19th, 2011 at 7:20 am
Cincy is reveling in this trade. Got rid of a major headache, major salary relief, and a QB who, yes is only 31/32, but with bad knees and elbow. Cincy got a major gift from the Raiders. According to people in Cincy, for a “not a good QB anymore.” Maybe HueJax owed something back to Mike Brown, gave him an early Christmas present. We can be sure it will only be for one first rounder.
Obviously a total desperation move by HueJax. I would have rather lived miserably with Boller until Soup was back, than live miserably with a QB that has very little left, and that really never had anything outstanding, just a lot of hype. I’ve seen Palmer play for many years and he has never been any good, even his Heisman year was not that great.
That’s football, one unlucky hit and your whole season and career, for Campbell, is down the drain. HueJax has gambled too much, and his career is now hanging on the success of this trade. If it backfires, he will be run out Oaktown before next season, nothing he has done so far will save him.
But, that’s HueJax living high on the edge, as a rookie coach and now novice GM, putting so much trust on one average QB, at best, will definitely come back to haunt him and the rest of the Raider Nation, just at a time when things were turning around, unbelievable.
October 19th, 2011 at 7:21 am
646.neilb Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 7:16 am
…………only problem I’ve got is that I’m working this Sunday night and will miss the game.
Darn…Well, I expect Boller to start, unless Palmer is superhuman and can get all receivers timing down…we probably won’t see him til Denver! But, what do I know…if Curry can come in after one day, Palmer after 3, well…who am I kididng?
October 19th, 2011 at 7:26 am
649.zopi Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 7:20 am
Cincy is reveling in this trade. Got rid of a major headache, major salary relief, and a QB who, yes is only 31/32, but with bad knees and elbow. Cincy got a major gift from the Raiders. According to people in Cincy, for a “not a good QB anymore.” Maybe HueJax owed something back to Mike Brown, gave him an early Christmas present. We can be sure it will only be for one first rounder.
Obviously a total desperation move by HueJax. I would have rather lived miserably with Boller until Soup was back, than live miserably with a QB that has very little left, and that really never had anything outstanding, just a lot of hype. I’ve seen Palmer play for many years and he has never been any good, even his Heisman year was not that great.
That’s football, one unlucky hit and your whole season and career, for Campbell, is down the drain. HueJax has gambled too much, and his career is now hanging on the success of this trade. If it backfires, he will be run out Oaktown before next season, nothing he has done so far will save him.
But, that’s HueJax living high on the edge, as a rookie coach and now novice GM, putting so much trust on one average QB, at best, will definitely come back to haunt him and the rest of the Raider Nation, just at a time when things were turning around, unbelievable.
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You are clueless dude. Carson’s last 2 games as a Bengal were against 2 of the top defenses in the NFL and he only threw for 500+ yards 5 TDs 1 int and over 70% completion rate. Yeah he is washed up.
He had 20 INTs last year, and at LEAST half of those were due to TO or Ocho running the wrong route, or not completing the route.
Cincys Oline didnt play well, and the defense was just awful last year.
If Carson Palmer is a ‘washed up has been’ then Jason Campbell is a broken down never was.
Ill take the has been over the never was.
October 19th, 2011 at 7:26 am
At what point does Coach Hue have to name his starting QB? Expect Boller to start but wouldn’t shocked to see Palmer at some point.
October 19th, 2011 at 7:28 am
……and I expect to miss some games.Just the nature of the shifts I work.Seen all the games so far so I can’t complain.
October 19th, 2011 at 7:28 am
Zopi, I respect your opinion but you say you would live miserably with Boller until JC comes back? What if he doesn’t? Anyways, I would be able to live with Boller if that is all we could do…but I tell you, my heart stopped when JC didn’t get off the ground! 4-2, heading to mediocrity again is something that I don’t think fans or the org wanted. Hue Jack went out to do what he needed to do, and Palmer was the best one of the bunch!
Gave away too much, I kinda agree, but we all will have to wait and see! If this bites HueJack in the butt, then be it…but you gotta give him points for trying!
October 19th, 2011 at 7:28 am
Oh… and Hue Jacksons career is NOT in jeopardy based on what Carson does this year. No chance in hell. If we lost all 10 of our remaining games Hue would STILL get another few years here.
The coaching carousel is over in Oakland. Deal with it.
October 19th, 2011 at 7:29 am
Not a desperation move at all.
It was super aggressive and it did happen to save the season.
Hue saw a window of opportunity to upgrade the QB position and he did it.
October 19th, 2011 at 7:30 am
Anybody else getting pumped up watching youtube highlights?
October 19th, 2011 at 7:30 am
You can’t say we gave up too much before Palmer takes a snap. If this guy leads us to a Championship game and multiple playoff appearences did we give up too much? Nope.
October 19th, 2011 at 7:31 am
The most common and logical thing to do is sit Cannon Palmer this Sunday and get him ready at the bye week but our coach is a gambler, a risk taker, lives on the edge. So I expect Cannon for a series or two like a prea season game….Then he will unleashed on our div rival with minimal game tape for them to study.
Obviously,
The end
October 19th, 2011 at 7:31 am
If Palmer starts:
Raiders 34
Chiefs 10
If Boller starts:
Raiders 24
Chiefs 20
October 19th, 2011 at 7:32 am
Hawaiian’s a diplomat. Can he be made ambassador of the Raider Nation?
October 19th, 2011 at 7:32 am
656.LA to TheBay Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 7:29 am
Not a desperation move at all.
It was super aggressive and it did happen to save the season.
Hue saw a window of opportunity to upgrade the QB position and he did it.
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I agree. This is a move that his been in the process since TRAINING CAMP! Al and Hue had decided to wait until after the season to pick up Carson because the price was too steep. Campbells injury, as unfortunate as it is for him, just sped up the time table. Carson Palmer was going to be our starter next year anyways.
October 19th, 2011 at 7:32 am
neilb Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 7:11 am
Everyone be real quiet and listen…………sshhh listen…………….Hear that?
That noise is the rest of the league $hitting themselves with fear.
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hahahhaaah
October 19th, 2011 at 7:33 am
658.bcz24 Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 7:30 am
You can’t say we gave up too much before Palmer takes a snap. If this guy leads us to a Championship game and multiple playoff appearences did we give up too much? Nope.
And that is where I agree! Right now its a second, unless we win in the playoffs…and I will trade that for a 2013 first anyday!
October 19th, 2011 at 7:34 am
I’m pretty sure Herm Edwards wears a Raiders t-shirt under his suit and sports a Silver & Black foam finger on Sundays:
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:7118273
It’ll probably cost him, working at BSPN and all.
October 19th, 2011 at 7:34 am
There was a lot going on obviously, but I haven’t seen many semi’s weigh in on Lochness Campbell being inactive on Sunday.
I think that ship has sailed.
October 19th, 2011 at 7:35 am
661.LA to TheBay Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 7:32 am
Hawaiian’s a diplomat. Can he be made ambassador of the Raider Nation?
LMAO! No, don’t want the responsibilities that it may come with…
October 19th, 2011 at 7:37 am
Zopi…you have you’re opinion and it’s as valid as everyone else’s but I disagree with your summation of
CP.The man was a very good college QB,won a Heisman (not
that means much more than being picked 1st in the NFL draft by its lousiest team) and took that team a long
way despite that team’s miserable ownership and lackluster management whilst getting elected by his peers to the Pro bowl.He carried a terrible football team
for years and the way they treated him was our gain.
October 19th, 2011 at 7:37 am
We need an ambassador!!!
Plunketthead is our soccer ambassador.
October 19th, 2011 at 7:37 am
I miss ShoNasty… D will need to carry the offense Sunday.
Any predictions on trick play TDs this time? Statue of liberty? DMAC passing? Onsides kick to start game?
Just no Jano on a sweep…
October 19th, 2011 at 7:37 am
I expect Carson to start Sunday if he has a good week of practice. If he isn’t ready, Hue won’t throw him in.
Another aspect of this trade often overlooked by the naysayers, this very young and up and coming team could not afford to have another wasted season. The confidence this team has built would disappear. Guys like DHB would fold. Vets would check out again. No way we could allow that
Another overlooked aspect, financially this team CAN NOT afford to have empty stadiums every week. They have to sell out the games.
This was not a desperate move, by a coach trying to save his job. This was an aggressive move by a coach who wont stand for a losing culture no matter what it costs.
October 19th, 2011 at 7:37 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 7:34 am
There was a lot going on obviously, but I haven’t seen many semi’s weigh in on Lochness Campbell being inactive on Sunday.
I think that ship has sailed.
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I had forgotten about that. You make a good point. Would not be surprised if he’s cut at the end of camp next year unless he has a beast training camp.
I really thought and still think he can be good. Hope I’m right.
October 19th, 2011 at 7:39 am
Palmer took a team that got their head kicked in weekly, to beating the Steelers and Ravens often (went 6-0 in division one year).
All we are asking is for him to take this fringe playoff team, into a few playoff victories.
October 19th, 2011 at 7:39 am
Seymour Bush Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 11:06 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 10:32 pm
Yeah, it’s sickening seeing Campbell trashed, because you dumbass video clowns have a new name to play with.
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Partner you came in here all day every day and trashed an 82 year old icon. And I mean all day, every day.
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This ^
Man KK your vag was full of sand yesterday. I hope that nasty thing is cleared up, and cleaned out this fine post-JC, Carson Palmer Wednesday.
October 19th, 2011 at 7:40 am
Y’all might take exception to this analogy, (when has that Ever stopped me b4?)but the Carson Palmer addition is akin to Buster Posey joining the Giants & leading them to a World Series Championship?
Raiders 23 Chefs 13
October 19th, 2011 at 7:40 am
Chris, I’ve often thought the same thing about Herm.
You know how whenever they sign a free agent here, they were always a Raider fan an dreamed of putting on the silver and black?
I think Herm Edwards actually did but never got signed.
He’s been on our jock since 09, when he predicted us to go 8-8 (thanks, JaA$$hole).
October 19th, 2011 at 7:41 am
Another overlooked aspect, financially this team CAN NOT afford to have empty stadiums every week. They have to sell out the games.
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Amy Trask is probably loving this trade.
For the life of me, I have never seen one person wearing a Jason Campbell jersey.
Palmer will probably outsell Soup’s jersey sales by the end of this month.
October 19th, 2011 at 7:41 am
There was a lot going on obviously, but I haven’t seen many semi’s weigh in on Lochness Campbell being inactive on Sunday.
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Truthfully, I hadnt noticed the Bruce was inactive. Both you and I though the ship had sailed on him in camp and that he would be cut though. If he has made it this long I think he will be kept around until TC next year and given his shot, if he doesnt seize it hes out.
October 19th, 2011 at 7:41 am
The pundits keeps saying if we are getting the Carson Palmer from the past two seasons then we are screwed. Well, let’s take a look at the Raiders QB stats over the past two seasons vs. Palmer’s stats over the past two seasons:
2009 & 2010:
Raiders QBs
54.7% comp 5737 yards 28 TDs 34 ints
Palmer:
61.2% comp 7064 yards 47 TDs 33 ints
Better completion %, more yards, way more TDs and the same ints….
fk the pundits. They didn’t take into account that the Bungholes WRs quit on routes causing many of Palmer’s ints, and the fact that our o-line is much better than the Bungholes. Or the fact that our running game is sooooo much better than anything the Bungholes have had the past two years.
Don’t let the talking head idiots make you nervous about this deal. We have gotten remarkably better.
October 19th, 2011 at 7:42 am
Like the premise, #622.
October 19th, 2011 at 7:42 am
Herm is from Modesto right?
October 19th, 2011 at 7:43 am
Dakota’s take at 679 is all you need to quote back at anyone who doubts this trade. Bravo.
October 19th, 2011 at 7:43 am
Losing culture Bcz? These kids have played hard every gmes for several years. True, the fan support wuld wane if we weren’t in the payoff hunt…
But I am confident Hue and Al have built a team of men. No knucklehead quitters except Condo left.
October 19th, 2011 at 7:44 am
Don’t let the talking head idiots make you nervous about this deal. We have gotten remarkably better.
October 19th, 2011 at 7:44 am
Don’t let the talking head idiots make you nervous about this deal. We have gotten remarkably better.
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Preach it!!!
October 19th, 2011 at 7:47 am
This was not a desperate move, by a coach trying to save his job. This was an aggressive move by a coach who wont stand for a losing culture no matter what it costs.
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Exactly. And I think on top of that, got a guy who he’s coveted for a long time.
Can’t underestimate a great QB-HC duo.
October 19th, 2011 at 7:48 am
Did Vegas just endorse his own post? LOL
October 19th, 2011 at 7:48 am
I agree, Dakota.
Carson will be great! He doesn’t have to put up crazy numbers to be great, either. But, he will make a difference and be fun to watch. I haven’t been this excited about a QB in Oakland since I thought the Raiders would draft Eli or big Ben.
October 19th, 2011 at 7:49 am
LA to TheBay is the man!
October 19th, 2011 at 7:49 am
LA to TheBay is the man!
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He sho is!!
October 19th, 2011 at 7:50 am
Condo…all he’s has to do is continue to hit S Lechler
in the hands with it and show up sober.
October 19th, 2011 at 7:50 am
688 is right on the money! Good post!
October 19th, 2011 at 7:50 am
I totally agree with 692.
October 19th, 2011 at 7:50 am
672.SilverNBlackPA Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 7:37 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 7:34 am
There was a lot going on obviously, but I haven’t seen many semi’s weigh in on Lochness Campbell being inactive on Sunday.
I think that ship has sailed.
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I had forgotten about that. You make a good point. Would not be surprised if he’s cut at the end of camp next year unless he has a beast training camp.
I really thought and still think he can be good. Hope I’m right.
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Soup is an unrestricted free agent after the season. He will not be at training camp. Right now he is so pissed I bet the hospital has fire extinq. on standby.
October 19th, 2011 at 7:51 am
Seymour said it best:
Seymour: “Well, in my eyes, back when I won the Super Bowl, we won the Super Bowl in 2004. It’s 2011 now so you can have as many Draft picks as you want to and say, ‘I have a good team,’ but at the end of the day, you know, the Packers are the only team that at the end of the day say, ‘Hey, we got it done.’
Hahaha, love it!!!
October 19th, 2011 at 7:52 am
Bruce Campbell exla……
October 19th, 2011 at 7:54 am
Condo’s beautiful direct snap to Rock, than his astounding ability to pull and block on the outside, may have won the Texans game.
Al Davis knew the talent of the great Condo, hence his contract.
October 19th, 2011 at 7:55 am
696.Just Fire Baby Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 7:52 am
Bruce Campbell exla……
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Oops. Misread. lol
October 19th, 2011 at 7:56 am
One thing to keep in mind about feeling sorry for Campbell……Remember, Campbell took the selfish route and LIED about how quickly he could return. 6 weeks was a rediculous statement. He knows that, we know that, everyone with a brain knows that.
He was trying to save his position with the Raiders for next year and avoid the Raiders making a deal like the one they ended up doing. If Hue had fallen for it then the team would have been screwed for the rest of the season.
Think about that when you are feeling sorry for Campbell.
October 19th, 2011 at 7:58 am
According to the chronicle TJ Houschmanezadeh indicated when he last played with Palmer they would play catch prior to the game & he could tell the frayed ulna nerve he was playing with (which never went under the knife. Very important to note. . .)was bothering him. He was still injured through last season.
He went on to say Carson’s currently making all the throws he used to make with the same velocity & accuracy. Same old Carson, said TJ. . .
We’ll probably find out on Sunday. . .Is Carson Palmer now wearing # 3? Other than “The Mad Bomber” Jeff George previously wire #3. I believe Rick Mirer wore #3 as well. . .
October 19th, 2011 at 7:58 am
ridiculous**
October 19th, 2011 at 7:58 am
Just watched presser for 3rd time. Hues lips are bruised from giving props to Mark Davis and Amy Trask. No mention of the job John Herrera did with the contract.
October 19th, 2011 at 7:59 am
just heard Ken O’brien former Jets qb on Calherd when asked how Carson looks healthwise say something to the effect of “I’ve been throwing with him for years and after surgery he still looked good but didn’t look natural throwing it now he’s throwing it as good as he ever has and can move around very well for a big guy”
October 19th, 2011 at 8:00 am
Campbell did the same thing Grads did when he got injured at the end of last year and the Raiders put Grads on IR to shut him up.
October 19th, 2011 at 8:00 am
Bruce was hurt last week I think. He has been getting out their on the field for certain packages unless I’m mistaken. I hope that guy does well, he’s a monster.
October 19th, 2011 at 8:01 am
Not sure of the sad sentiment towards Soup.
In case people haven’t been paying attention:
-Al was as shrewd as they come
-Hue says he has learned a ton from “Coach” and seems every bit as cutt-throat
-We are trying to “build a bully” not some organization that holds hands in some utopia vision of everyone getting some fair shake.
October 19th, 2011 at 8:01 am
More Ken O’brien paraphrasing “something about certain qb’s that when they get in the locker room have a presence and give you the confidence you can do some special things with him as your qb, Carson is one of those guys”
October 19th, 2011 at 8:03 am
Exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 7:58 am
Just watched presser for 3rd time. Hues lips are bruised from giving props to Mark Davis and Amy Trask. No mention of the job John Herrera did with the contract.
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Yeah, he kind if has to though. This is a unprecedented situation and he has to make sure to mention it’s just not him running the show.
Funny thing about Herrera. Take a close look just as the presser starts. Look who the water boy is.
October 19th, 2011 at 8:05 am
I wouldn’t be the least bit suprised if Herrera weaseled his way into sometype of tiny ownership stake.
October 19th, 2011 at 8:05 am
I think Carson Palmer will be just fine in a Silver and Black uniform! Maybe a little time and then…watch out NFL!
October 19th, 2011 at 8:06 am
Herrera is know for crunching #’s since learning the car business and assisted AD in cap matters.
October 19th, 2011 at 8:06 am
going from 8 and 8 to the same or worse with Boller after starting 4 and 2 could have resulted in:
-confidence lost among players
-FA’s not wanting to come/come back
-tuning out of Hue
-JCampbell may not be 100% next year
Gotta strike while the iron is hot. Also instead of the media being sympathetic to us over Al’s passing everyone’s saying we got robbed on the deal which would make a deep playoff run all the more satisfying
October 19th, 2011 at 8:07 am
Speaking of monsters…had #75 Stephon Heyer standing in
front of us on Sunday…just about blocked out the light… man is massive.
October 19th, 2011 at 8:08 am
Nah, 638. Paul Pierce!
October 19th, 2011 at 8:09 am
Thec07 Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 6:28 am
Do we know if Palmer or Boller is starting against KC?
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In his presser coach was asked, and would not say…
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If Hue doesn’t say Crennel has to get ready for both. Palmer is not going to be ready in four days. Bank on Boller. And support Boller.
October 19th, 2011 at 8:10 am
Ray Ray has a nice game, but Paul Pierce hits ALL the shots. AND he’s a Cali kid (SoCal).
October 19th, 2011 at 8:11 am
Condo is clutch.
October 19th, 2011 at 8:12 am
I wouldn’t be suprised if Boller started the first half…….. and didn’t make it into the second half.
October 19th, 2011 at 8:12 am
Carson Palmer Highlights – YouTubewww.youtube.com/watch?v=zEzdoVGFgIY
still aren’t excited?
October 19th, 2011 at 8:13 am
Al warned us that his son Mark was too caring and close to the players to make the tough decisions needed to win.
Hue? Quite the opposite as we have seen. Same with Amy.
So Jason, feel the love. However the team is run in Al’s vision, and team leadership clearly thought you could not get us to the SB this year or next. You got hurt and the decision just came earlier.
Best of luck somewhere.
October 19th, 2011 at 8:16 am
I’m sure Jason knew what needed to be done…I hope he wasn’t too dumb like that cover 2 response to know this was coming…
October 19th, 2011 at 8:16 am
Not sure if we should rush to IR Soup though, in case Palmer takes us to the 10-11 win area, and than blows something out.
The thought of Boller coming in to try to save a playoff run, gives me unpleasant visions of Bobby Hoying.
October 19th, 2011 at 8:16 am
I guess it’s obvious but I’m used to 8 televised games a year and being 2 and 4 at this point at best…Maybe Hue knows what he’s doing!!!
October 19th, 2011 at 8:17 am
Paul Pierce is a wuss. Fake crying, fake injury, carried off court like a broke ho.
No class.
October 19th, 2011 at 8:17 am
I hope he wasn’t too dumb like that cover 2 response to know this was coming…
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OUCH!!!!
Very un-ambassador like
October 19th, 2011 at 8:19 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 8:16 am
Not sure if we should rush to IR Soup though, in case Palmer takes us to the 10-11 win area, and than blows something out.
The thought of Boller coming in to try to save a playoff run, gives me unpleasant visions of Bobby Hoying.
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but the alternative is?
October 19th, 2011 at 8:20 am
LOL JFB…Yeah I apologize…
Point being, I know Jason wasn’t too blind to not know that this was coming…
October 19th, 2011 at 8:20 am
We are on pace to give up 11 sacks all season. I think Carson will be just fine.
October 19th, 2011 at 8:23 am
If I am Mark, Hue and Amy, I would be filling Soup’s head full of nonsense proganda like “this doesn’t mean you won’t be back”, “you are still part of our future”, and “once you get healthy we will re-evaluate things”.
That way we can milk every last bit of that 4.5 million salary, and make this transition as smooth as possible.
Than in the offseason, just don’t return his calls.
October 19th, 2011 at 8:25 am
729.Just Fire Baby Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 8:23 am
If I am Mark, Hue and Amy, I would be filling Soup’s head full of nonsense proganda like “this doesn’t mean you won’t be back”, “you are still part of our future”, and “once you get healthy we will re-evaluate things”.
That way we can milk every last bit of that 4.5 million salary, and make this transition as smooth as possible.
Than in the offseason, just don’t return his calls.
OUCH! And you talk about me…lol
October 19th, 2011 at 8:27 am
I dig the fact Vance Mueller was one of the players ringing the logo. Still a local. And a loyal Raider.
Al loved him some Cali Div III talent.
October 19th, 2011 at 8:29 am
Eventho im not very high on Palmer….one thing that I do like about him is his ability to beat the steelers and ravens defenses…..those have been the best D’s the last decade and a good amount of times he has tossed TDs in some wins….so we will have to see what he does….The deep ball from Carson is definitely better than JC….let’s hope he has found the mobility from 5-6 years ago….but the show much go on
October 19th, 2011 at 8:30 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 7:42 am
Herm is from Modesto right?
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Monterey and went to Monterey High School.
October 19th, 2011 at 8:30 am
Good Morning Raider Nation!!!
October 19th, 2011 at 8:31 am
exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 8:06 am
Herrera is know for crunching #’s since learning the car business and assisted AD in cap matters.
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Bwahaha, assisted yeah, assisted as in he worked the copy machine! thats all that low IQ monkey abilities will amount to
October 19th, 2011 at 8:31 am
Soup had all day to read the D last Sunday and still under threw every pass (hell bent on not turning it over)
probably smarting from that dumbass pick that cost us
any chance against Boston.CP is coming to an established
O line with the best running game in the league and no
pressure to win every game himself.Hell yeah He’ll be fine.
October 19th, 2011 at 8:32 am
When he did the Hard Knocks show, his home was in Modesto.
October 19th, 2011 at 8:33 am
I think Campbell man’s up and does a classy move by being right by Palmer’s side. Making sure Palmer knows exactly what’s going on. If I’m Campbell, I am doing everything I can to help this team win a Super Bowl this year. JC had a huge part in moving this team in the right direction and a Super Bowl ring should still be his ultimate goal. No matter what his role is on this team. Anything less from JC would hinder his career in this league.
October 19th, 2011 at 8:34 am
No doubt….he’s gotta thing for Raider Nation!!
It’s only obvious….
October 19th, 2011 at 8:34 am
732.Method To My Madness Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 8:29 am
Eventho im not very high on Palmer….one thing that I do like about him is his ability to beat the steelers and ravens defenses…..those have been the best D’s the last decade and a good amount of times he has tossed TDs in some wins….so we will have to see what he does….The deep ball from Carson is definitely better than JC….let’s hope he has found the mobility from 5-6 years ago….but the show much go on
And that is the Palmer I hope arrived in Alameda yesterday!
October 19th, 2011 at 8:37 am
Hue has not mentioned Herrerera’s name once.
Either he hates him, or Herrera is his covert ninja front office warrior.
October 19th, 2011 at 8:37 am
La Milicia Negra Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 8:31 am
exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 8:06 am
Herrera is know for crunching #’s since learning the car business and assisted AD in cap matters.
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Bwahaha, assisted yeah, assisted as in he worked the copy machine! thats all that low IQ monkey abilities will amount to
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Now, now, now. He’s also good at picking fights with bay area beat reporters (like Tim Kawakami). Give the guy SOME credit.
October 19th, 2011 at 8:38 am
Raiders’ coordinator hints Carson Palmer will start Sunday
Posted by Michael David Smith on October 19, 2011, 11:14 AM EDT
Carson Palmer appears set to start for the Raiders just five days after arriving in Oakland.
Offensive coordinator Al Saunders strongly suggested that Palmer will be the man for the Raiders on Sunday against the Chiefs when he was asked today on Fescoe in the Morning on 610 Sports Radio what Palmer needs to do to be the Raiders’ starter.
Saunders answered, “As long as he’s breathing.”
Saying that Palmer will start “as long as he’s breathing” doesn’t speak well for Kyle Boller, who came in to replace Jason Campbell after Campbell was hurt on Sunday. But Saunders said he was extremely impressed by what Palmer was able to do on Tuesday, just after the trade became official.
“He walked out on the field yesterday and everybody kind of looked at everybody and said, ‘You know what? This is a real quarterback,’” Saunders said. “That was the comment made by a couple people as they watched him throw. It just depends on how quickly he feels comfortable in what we’re doing and that shouldn’t take too long.”
For the Raiders, the question isn’t whether Palmer knows the whole offense. It’s whether he knows enough of the offense that he can be better than Boller. And it sounds like a few days’ work is all Palmer will need to be better than Boller.
October 19th, 2011 at 8:39 am
Please God don’t let him get hurt..
October 19th, 2011 at 8:39 am
Ls Milicia Negra…post 735:
Hey, dude, you’re spurting some anger at someone on the Raiders’ staff that you probably know nothing about, and who obviously had the respect of Al Davis by the fact that he’s (Herrera) has worked with the organization so long.
Save the anger for the dischargers or donkeys, or better yet, the idiots running the Republician party.
Maybe the moron Eric Cantor.
Oh, another thing, copy machines are becoming outdated in the business world. Need 20 copies, the computer will print them, no “pro-blem-mo.”
October 19th, 2011 at 8:39 am
Normally I would not be so excited about this trade but……..Hue Jackson went out of his way and spent a lot to get this guy.
Hue has know Palmer since high school the fact that he wanted him so bad means that Hue knows what he can do with his new QB.
So far Hue has not let us down he has been excellent in many ways. Sure he is a gambler but his gambles have paid off and he is 4-2.
I trust Hue and because of that I am really excited about this trade!
October 19th, 2011 at 8:42 am
for those who thought Boller could’ve taken us to the playoffs and we’ll hopefully never know for sure, Gradkowski used to come in cold off the bench and look better than Boller
October 19th, 2011 at 8:42 am
Wow. Can anybody remember another time a QB (Boller) has so publicly been told “YOU SUCK” by management without actually being released?
October 19th, 2011 at 8:42 am
CorkOnTheNFL Steve Corkran
#Raiders offensive coordinator Al Saunders says reaction from some people who watched Palmer on field Tuesday: “This is a real quarterback.”
October 19th, 2011 at 8:43 am
Carson Palmer will start Sunday. Book it.
Raiders-27 Chiefs-13
Building a Football Team
October 19th, 2011 at 8:43 am
Ryan…nothing that soup has done with us suggests any
other behavior on his part.He’s been a team man all the
way and all of us know that.He was grateful as hell for
us getting him out from under ratface’s regime back east
and it showed last off season.We will get him that ring now and he is no lesser man for having to ride the pine
for it…I know he knows this.
October 19th, 2011 at 8:44 am
749.r8eray Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 8:42 am
CorkOnTheNFL Steve Corkran
#Raiders offensive coordinator Al Saunders says reaction from some people who watched Palmer on field Tuesday: “This is a real quarterback.”
You know, that right there may have pushed JC over the edge…I hope JC keeps his professionalism! Get well soon and Good Luck!
October 19th, 2011 at 8:44 am
You have to start Palmer Sunday. What else do you do, start a guy who knows he has no chance whatsoever of staying the starter, even if he throws for 400 yards and 5 TDs? You don’t put a game in that guy’s hands. A somewhat green Palmer beats a lame duck Kyle Boller. Besides, Palmer is actually already familiar with the terminology of Hue’s offense. Not to mention, Palmer is better than Boller. It’s a no-brainer.
October 19th, 2011 at 8:45 am
Al Saunders says reaction from some people who watched Palmer on field Tuesday: “This is a real quarterback.”
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the sound you just heard is the slap across JCampbells face
October 19th, 2011 at 8:45 am
Hagar The Horrible Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 8:39 am
Ls Milicia Negra…post 735:
Hey, dude, you’re spurting some anger at someone on the Raiders’ staff that you probably know nothing about, and who obviously had the respect of Al Davis by the fact that he’s (Herrera) has worked with the organization so long.
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How is it that you mindless nincompoops insist that everybody parrot the party line.
Can’t you think for yourself, come up with your own analyses?
October 19th, 2011 at 8:46 am
timkawakami Tim Kawakami
RT @CorkOnTheNFL #Raiders OC Al Saunders tells radio show Carson Palmer will start Sunday against the Chiefs “as long as he’s breathing.”
October 19th, 2011 at 8:46 am
Al Saunders says reaction from some people who watched Palmer on field Tuesday: “This is a real quarterback.”
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I’m telling you, nobody is dancing on Soup’s grave more than this coaching staff.
October 19th, 2011 at 8:46 am
“As long as he’s breathing.” Hahahahhaha. Damn, this staff is cut throat. Gotta love it.
October 19th, 2011 at 8:46 am
I wonder what Palmer knows about the Chargers D. He is Norv’s next door neighbor down here in SD.
October 19th, 2011 at 8:47 am
PFT reports Al Saunders almost flat-out says Palmer will start Sunday:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/19/raiders-coordinator-hints-carson-palmer-will-start-sunday/
October 19th, 2011 at 8:47 am
RaiderDuck Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 8:42 am
Wow. Can anybody remember another time a QB (Boller) has so publicly been told “YOU SUCK” by management without actually being released?
……..
Love Warren Sapp or hate him, he has the best quote ever on the cruelty of benching/releasing people: “It’s not a family, it’s an army.”
October 19th, 2011 at 8:48 am
Steve your slipping. I posted the PFT article before you tweeted it!
October 19th, 2011 at 8:49 am
Al Saunders : “This is a real quarterback.”
……….
It’s as if Hue didn’t insinuate the same disdain for Campbell ever since coming here. It’s as if Hue benching Campbell twice last year wasn’t enough writing on the wall.
October 19th, 2011 at 8:50 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 8:46 am
Al Saunders says reaction from some people who watched Palmer on field Tuesday: “This is a real quarterback.”
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I’m telling you, nobody is dancing on Soup’s grave more than this coaching staff.
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LMFAO!!!!
Vegas, this the coaching staff right now..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5iseJJ5ogA
October 19th, 2011 at 8:50 am
BSJ on Adam Treu:
“This is a real longsnapper.”
October 19th, 2011 at 8:52 am
inonewordraider Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 8:45 am
Al Saunders says reaction from some people who watched Palmer on field Tuesday: “This is a real quarterback.”
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the sound you just heard is the slap across JCampbells face
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True. But I also wouldn’t be surprised if the difference is that apparent. Palmer is more accurate, quicker decision maker and able to fit the ball into tight spots. That’s basically what playing QB is all about.
If Palmer is at his best, I think it’s quite possible we don’t lose another game this season. Of course that’s unlikely, but I believe we are that talented across the board elsewhere to make that a reality. As it stands we’re a play away from being 5-1 with Campbell and we outgained the Pats by 100 yards in the one loss.
October 19th, 2011 at 8:53 am
Hue benched him once…but the Miami game was all Cable, right? Because of a promise that he said that no one will lose their starting job because of an injury…talk about backfire!
October 19th, 2011 at 8:53 am
Treu couldn’t hold Condo’s jock. Condo could snap a ball into a vase from 80 yards away.
October 19th, 2011 at 8:53 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 8:46 am
I’m telling you, nobody is dancing on Soup’s grave more than this coaching staff.
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It’s because Campbell was forced on them. They have reputations on the line. They lose with Campbell, get fired, it’s their resume`s that take a hit. Guys like Shell and Turner were just so happy to have a job, they didn’t care who Al shoved down their throat. I think Hue’s thinking always was, “Why hire me if you don’t think I’m competent enough to choose my own QB?”
October 19th, 2011 at 8:54 am
Yup, they told Kyle a semi-retired guy off the street was a better option than him, despite being there all of camp and then 6 weeks of QB meetings and fim study, etc.
October 19th, 2011 at 8:55 am
Hwnrder,
I have Pittsburgh and St. Louis being the games where Hue benched Campbell. I forgot about Miami. That makes 3. Thank you.
October 19th, 2011 at 8:55 am
oooooh boy oh boy oh boy! Haven’t been this pumped about the Raiders since the day we drafted Darren McFadden!
October 19th, 2011 at 8:55 am
film*
October 19th, 2011 at 8:55 am
Mr. Jason Campbell needs to get healthy so the Raiders have the best back up qb in the NFL.
October 19th, 2011 at 8:55 am
Sullivan44 Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 8:53 am
It’s because Campbell was forced on them. They have reputations on the line. They lose with Campbell, get fired, it’s their resume`s that take a hit. Guys like Shell and Turner were just so happy to have a job, they didn’t care who Al shoved down their throat. I think Hue’s thinking always was, “Why hire me if you don’t think I’m competent enough to choose my own QB?”
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Doesn’t really apply since Al is gone and JC went down
October 19th, 2011 at 8:55 am
LA to TheBay Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 8:54 am
Yup, they told Kyle a semi-retired guy off the street was a better option than him, despite being there all of camp and then 6 weeks of QB meetings and fim study, etc.
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“It’s not a family, it’s an army” – Warren Sapp.
October 19th, 2011 at 8:56 am
MR,
I really think benching Campbell was Cable’s call. Hue just cosigned to save Cable’s bacon with Al.
October 19th, 2011 at 8:56 am
770.LA to TheBay Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 8:54 am
Yup, they told Kyle a semi-retired guy off the street was a better option than him, despite being there all of camp and then 6 weeks of QB meetings and fim study, etc.
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Im sure Kyle has seen film of himself, and wouldn’t dispute their findings either.
October 19th, 2011 at 8:56 am
Al Saunders is looking at Palmer and McFadden and saying to himself….this is way better than Trent Green and priest Holmes! Just need Boss to step up!
October 19th, 2011 at 8:58 am
JC era is over…time to move on..JC was 11-7 as starter and didnt slide correctly….these are the breaks…but all this talk about JC being benched and Hue this…blah blah…Hue fked up putting Grad in…you went 1-3 with him as starter….he never won back to back games and I’m glad Al didnt want that puke of a QB back…he sucks…I’ll trade all my number one picks for life to not have him on my roster ever again
October 19th, 2011 at 8:58 am
LA to the Bay, I studied the Raiders’ playbook all year. I know every play, every audible. I practice for 8 hours a day. Sure, I’ve only played one year of HS football, no college, and I’m in my late 30s. But I practice really hard and I study the playbook! Why not start me?
October 19th, 2011 at 8:59 am
LA To TheBay Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 8:56 am
MR,
I really think benching Campbell was Cable’s call. Hue just cosigned to save Cable’s bacon with Al.
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Everyone knows that Cable was a Grad’s man just like Sully. That is why 2 of the 3 are gone now.
October 19th, 2011 at 8:59 am
JFB…Saunders is just bluntly telling the truth!!!It’s
a profession…Most QB’s in this league get their shot
due to someone else’s injury.They get paid a lot and
when it’s their turn to be usurped it would behoove them
to behave in a professional manner.They get another phone call that way.Soup was another step in the right direction for us but talent wise CP is in an elite group.Soup will get a job….many others wont…professionalism on his behalf will ensure that
October 19th, 2011 at 9:01 am
Guys, wouldn’t Hue’s actions yesterday somewhat demonstrate that he was in on benching Campbell last year?
October 19th, 2011 at 9:02 am
Espn reporting that Carson Palmer will start Sunday
October 19th, 2011 at 9:02 am
Chris in NY Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 8:53 am
Treu couldn’t hold Condo’s jock. Condo could snap a ball into a vase from 80 yards away.
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Hard to remember when S Lechler has had to field one.
October 19th, 2011 at 9:02 am
781.Sullivan44 Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 8:58 am
LA to the Bay, I studied the Raiders’ playbook all year. I know every play, every audible. I practice for 8 hours a day. Sure, I’ve only played one year of HS football, no college, and I’m in my late 30s. But I practice really hard and I study the playbook! Why not start me?
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Youve never played sports MR….lol
October 19th, 2011 at 9:03 am
Sullivan44 Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 9:01 am
Guys, wouldn’t Hue’s actions yesterday somewhat demonstrate that he was in on benching Campbell last year?
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No. Just because Palmer is better than JC doesnt mean Grads is.
October 19th, 2011 at 9:03 am
Twinkler,
According to this logic where Boller should get a shot because he’s worked so hard, heck, why don’t we go out and practice really hard today? Study the playbook? We would then be qualified to start for the Raiders this Sunday, according to that logic, wouldn’t we?
October 19th, 2011 at 9:03 am
771.Sullivan44 Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 8:55 am
Hwnrder,
I have Pittsburgh and St. Louis being the games where Hue benched Campbell. I forgot about Miami. That makes 3. Thank you.
Well, Pitt game…weren’t we getting blown out at that point? Cable looked for a spark and it never came! And it was Cable who started Grads against Miami…I’m pretty sure!
October 19th, 2011 at 9:04 am
Man, I certainly do not want to wait almost 3 weeks to watch Palmer play the Donks, but I sure hope Palmer doesn’t pull something by being rushed into action with only 4 days under his belt.
October 19th, 2011 at 9:04 am
The NEWS Says:
October 18th, 2011 at 8:09 pm
Hue is a pimp!
Mark Purdy from the San Jose Mercury News (who sounds like a real tart by the way): “You said you thought this was the best trade in football. What do you think was the second best trade?”
HueJack: “I’ll let you know when we make it!”
Hahaha! How does it feel to get b1tch slapped, Purdy?!
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Lol. Yeah, I thought Purdy sounded like a tart. Wasn’t too impressed with Palmer’s responses to be honest.
October 19th, 2011 at 9:05 am
788.HueKnows Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 9:03 am
Sullivan44 Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 9:01 am
Guys, wouldn’t Hue’s actions yesterday somewhat demonstrate that he was in on benching Campbell last year?
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No. Just because Palmer is better than JC doesnt mean Grads is.
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Grads wasnt better than rick mirer lol
October 19th, 2011 at 9:05 am
Hwnrdr,
Considering Jackson’s urgency to put the Campbell era to an utter and complete end yesterday, my belief is that he was the one who benched Campbell last year. But if you have any audio, transcripts, what have you that could prove otherwise, I’m paying attention.
October 19th, 2011 at 9:07 am
According to Hue Jackson on at least 3 occasions last year, Grads was better than Jason Campbell.
October 19th, 2011 at 9:08 am
Dakota Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 8:56 am
Al Saunders is looking at Palmer and McFadden and saying to himself….this is way better than Trent Green and priest Holmes! Just need Boss to step up!
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Fair point. Although I do think Boss is doing OK. Hasn’t had a lot of looks.
Also, as much as I love the way our line is playing this year, that KC offensive line of the early-to-mid 2000s was probably the sickest I’ve ever seen.
October 19th, 2011 at 9:09 am
Sullivan are you saying we make this trade right now with a healthy JC?
October 19th, 2011 at 9:10 am
794.Sullivan44 Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 9:05 am
Hwnrdr,
Considering Jackson’s urgency to put the Campbell era to an utter and complete end yesterday, my belief is that he was the one who benched Campbell last year. But if you have any audio, transcripts, what have you that could prove otherwise, I’m paying attention.
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Same guy who stil lies to this day about Elway not wanting to play for Raiders hahahahaha
October 19th, 2011 at 9:10 am
I’m saying if Hue had an ounce of belief in these QBs that Al saddled him with, he would go with Boller until Campbell was 100%.
October 19th, 2011 at 9:11 am
Sullivan44 Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 9:07 am
According to Hue Jackson on at least 3 occasions last year, Grads was better than Jason Campbell.
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Once again your fat boy Cable was the HC last year. Besides are there only 3 games in the season? Who was better the other 13 according to that theory?
October 19th, 2011 at 9:11 am
Sullivan44 Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 9:03 am
Twinkler,
According to this logic where Boller should get a shot because he’s worked so hard, heck, why don’t we go out and practice really hard today? Study the playbook? We would then be qualified to start for the Raiders this Sunday, according to that logic, wouldn’t we?
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That’s Twinkle Mr and no….the logic states this…
K Boller 48 TD’s to 51 Picks for his 8 year career
October 19th, 2011 at 9:12 am
HueKnows Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 9:03 am
Sullivan44 Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 9:01 am
Guys, wouldn’t Hue’s actions yesterday somewhat demonstrate that he was in on benching Campbell last year?
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No. Just because Palmer is better than JC doesnt mean Grads is.
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Last year Grads was hands down better than Campbell. I might give 2011 Campbell a slight edge over 2010 Grads though. Might. The reason I say that is 2011 Campbell has better weapons and much better line play.
October 19th, 2011 at 9:12 am
Question, do we IR and carryforward with 52man roster?
October 19th, 2011 at 9:13 am
HueKnows, let’s be honest with ourselves. If Hue does the Al Davis thing, he plays the hand he has, doesn’t he? He plays Boller till Campbell’s 100%. Didn’t he just completely dismantle a QB depth chart that Al put together by making the move he did yesterday?
October 19th, 2011 at 9:14 am
795.Sullivan44 Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 9:07 am
According to Hue Jackson on at least 3 occasions last year, Grads was better than Jason Campbell.
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7-5 and not losing back to back games and led a win streak with higher avergage of yards and pts vs 1-3 with lower points and no win streak lol……yeah sure MR….you fkin liar
October 19th, 2011 at 9:14 am
Sullivan44 Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 9:10 am
I’m saying if Hue had an ounce of belief in these QBs that Al saddled him with, he would go with Boller until Campbell was 100%.
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When is Soup going to be 100% 6-8 weeks probably more. Hue felt like the rest of the team was ready to make a run and we didn’t have time to wait.
October 19th, 2011 at 9:15 am
797.HueKnows Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 9:09 am
Sullivan are you saying we make this trade right now with a healthy JC?
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LOL…MR wont answer,…..he is a coward
October 19th, 2011 at 9:16 am
HueKnows,
But Al Davis thought that Kyle Boller was suitable as a backup to Jason Campbell. So why doesn’t Hue?
October 19th, 2011 at 9:16 am
Qodrn Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 3:35 am
And so it begins again…
And the winner with the exact score is:
Rosenthal’s pick: Raiders 24, Browns 17.
Honorable mention goes to:
Zymurge Raiders 23, Browns 17
LA for PAIN
THE RAIDER PREDICTION BOARD
Dedicated to the legacy of Al Davis
Protected by the rally squirrel and Coliseum rodents
First: Ghostraider (exact score)
Second: Sullivan44
Third: Pretty Rick
Fourth: Sullivan44
Fifth: Fingers
Sixth: Rosenthal (exact score)
Blackmamba_20 Raiders 34 Cheifs 16
Chris in NY Raiders 31-10
rob_raider raiders 34 chiefs 13
Try Some Reality Raiders 27 Chiefs 16
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Al Davis Raiders- 31
kc queefs- 13
October 19th, 2011 at 9:18 am
Ndukwe= Antonio Gate’s shadow.
Bresh going with the Heavy Nickel and roving safety makes sense and leave’s Wimbley to pass rush.
Nice.
October 19th, 2011 at 9:18 am
806.HueKnows Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 9:14 am
Sullivan44 Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 9:10 am
I’m saying if Hue had an ounce of belief in these QBs that Al saddled him with, he would go with Boller until Campbell was 100%.
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When is Soup going to be 100% 6-8 weeks probably more. Hue felt like the rest of the team was ready to make a run and we didn’t have time to wait.
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Exactly….JC out until Dec at earliest
October 19th, 2011 at 9:19 am
How ironic your name is “Hue Knows”. Hue knows these QBs Al saddled him with are NOT the answer. lol. That’s why he made the move he did yesterday. If had an ounce of faith in this depth chart, that Al certainly played a role in establishing, he would play Boller, the backup that Al designated for Campbell, until Campbell was 100%. Clearly, Hue had other plans. Hue Knows! lmfao.
October 19th, 2011 at 9:19 am
Sullivan44 Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 9:13 am
HueKnows, let’s be honest with ourselves. If Hue does the Al Davis thing, he plays the hand he has, doesn’t he? He plays Boller till Campbell’s 100%. Didn’t he just completely dismantle a QB depth chart that Al put together by making the move he did yesterday?
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Please stop making me school you.
1st off you think playing the hand you are dealt is the AD thing? You must be joking.
Secondly how has the depth chart been dismantled? The starter was replaced the 2nd and 3rd string are right where they were. In fact I believe we started the season with only 2 qbs. not much of a depth chart.
October 19th, 2011 at 9:19 am
810.Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 9:18 am
Ndukwe= Antonio Gate’s shadow.
Bresh going with the Heavy Nickel and roving safety makes sense and leave’s Wimbley to pass rush.
Nice.
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Quite possible
October 19th, 2011 at 9:19 am
Being in Oakland was good for Campbell. It made him a wealthy man. That being said, he will make at least $1 mil as a backup next year. If he can get another job after being b*tch slapped.
October 19th, 2011 at 9:20 am
Hahaha code black we got a way better qb than campbell
October 19th, 2011 at 9:20 am
729.Just Fire Baby Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 8:23 am
If I am Mark, Hue and Amy, I would be filling Soup’s head full of nonsense proganda like “this doesn’t mean you won’t be back”, “you are still part of our future”, and “once you get healthy we will re-evaluate things”.
That way we can milk every last bit of that 4.5 million salary, and make this transition as smooth as possible.
Than in the offseason, just don’t return his calls.
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LMFAO!
Did you see Corkran implying that Hue has fed some former and current players these type of lines, and there is a “list” of players who are not to fond of Hue?
Again …
LMFAO!!!!
October 19th, 2011 at 9:21 am
Now is the time
October 19th, 2011 at 9:21 am
I’m waiting for the post of how Palmer is doing in practice!
October 19th, 2011 at 9:21 am
Sullivan, answer me this: how many teams of the 32 are confident there backup can take them to the Superbowl besides of course the team with your beloved Grads?
October 19th, 2011 at 9:21 am
Raiders 34
Chiefs 10
October 19th, 2011 at 9:21 am
Bo I agree with you on Mr. Shaughnessy, Raiders need him to dominate, would be best front seven in the NFL;
Houston. Kelly. Seymour. Shaughnessy.
Wimbley. McClain. Curry.
I noticed Ro was much more aggressive playing next Curry.
October 19th, 2011 at 9:21 am
their^
October 19th, 2011 at 9:22 am
808.Sullivan44 Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 9:16 am
HueKnows,
But Al Davis thought that Kyle Boller was suitable as a backup to Jason Campbell. So why doesn’t Hue?
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During the last year, Mr Davis did not attend practices and only watched film. It was pointed out Boller only got 5% of the snaps as the backup. Hue is right their and could see the real Kyle Boller.
October 19th, 2011 at 9:23 am
Raiders are back
October 19th, 2011 at 9:23 am
808.Sullivan44 Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 9:16 am
HueKnows,
But Al Davis thought that Kyle Boller was suitable as a backup to Jason Campbell. So why doesn’t Hue?
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Same reason he thought Grad wasnt lol
October 19th, 2011 at 9:23 am
No, HueKnows.
The starter is injured. The backup is Boller. Hue Jackson is replacing the backup with Carson Palmer. And by trading a king’s ransom for Palmer, it’s more than likely Palmer will also replace the starter. So as of right now, Palmer is actually replacing both Boller and Campbell. According to the depth chart as it was designed before Campbell’s injury, Campbell was to start, Boller was to back Campbell up. Al was still GM and “heavily involved” (his words) with weekly gameplanning and personnel decisions at that point. And his depth chart was Campbell, then Boller. Hue’s playing neither of them. Hue is clearly usurping that depth chart because according to it, Boller is supposed to be our QB right now.
October 19th, 2011 at 9:25 am
Doesn’t anyone listen…..Carson Palmer starting on Sunday was yesterdays news…Just like him being in a Raider uniform in 2011 was last years news….What do these Bay area beat writers do….???
October 19th, 2011 at 9:25 am
822.RaiderRetribution Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 9:21 am
Bo I agree with you on Mr. Shaughnessy, Raiders need him to dominate, would be best front seven in the NFL;
Houston. Kelly. Seymour. Shaughnessy.
Wimbley. McClain. Curry.
I noticed Ro was much more aggressive playing next Curry.
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HENDU
October 19th, 2011 at 9:25 am
Sullivan44 Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 9:23 am
No, HueKnows.
The starter is injured. The backup is Boller. Hue Jackson is replacing the backup with Carson Palmer. And by trading a king’s ransom for Palmer, it’s more than likely Palmer will also replace the starter. So as of right now, Palmer is actually replacing both Boller and Campbell. According to the depth chart as it was designed before Campbell’s injury, Campbell was to start, Boller was to back Campbell up. Al was still GM and “heavily involved” (his words) with weekly gameplanning and personnel decisions at that point. And his depth chart was Campbell, then Boller. Hue’s playing neither of them. Hue is clearly usurping that depth chart because according to it, Boller is supposed to be our QB right now.
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So who is the backup?
October 19th, 2011 at 9:26 am
794.Sullivan44 Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 9:05 am
Hwnrdr,
Considering Jackson’s urgency to put the Campbell era to an utter and complete end yesterday, my belief is that he was the one who benched Campbell last year. But if you have any audio, transcripts, what have you that could prove otherwise, I’m paying attention.
Well, I don’t, but Ibelieve I saw that in Cable’s presser…you know I could be wrong, but…I don’t want to argue last year…I have my opinions, you have yours…I’ll respect yours, just do the same for me.
October 19th, 2011 at 9:26 am
The point we are better at quarterback at this point then we ever been
October 19th, 2011 at 9:26 am
Raiderbuck Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 9:21 am
I’m waiting for the post of how Palmer is doing in practice!
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Ha ha ha!!!
Yeah.
Where’s priest?
Come on, priest. Aren’t you out there in the tree with your binoculars watching Palmer? Can’t the kid play? Doesn’t the kid just have a perfect throwing motion and good posture? Doesn’t the kid just have a nice touch on the football?
October 19th, 2011 at 9:26 am
Gardowski was NOT better than Campbell.
Amazing that there are a few cats still trying to push that.
And Cable was terrible too.
October 19th, 2011 at 9:27 am
We need accuracy and mobility at QB. Campbell was neither and often screwed up with interceptions with no Raiders receivers even close. DHB was open along the sideline at least 4 times and Campbell threw it out of bounds or overthrew the pass. Big chunks of yardage and momentum lost. I never thought he was great, just the best we had at the time…He could manage a game, but a game manager rarely even gets to a Superbowl.
We’ll get some picks for our 4 trades last year.
Let’s get behind Palmer and he’ll be a winner for us!
RAIDERS!
October 19th, 2011 at 9:28 am
No “I’ve seen this kid play” endorsement from priest. I’m disappointed.
October 19th, 2011 at 9:29 am
828.autopalm77 Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 9:25 am
Doesn’t anyone listen…..Carson Palmer starting on Sunday was yesterdays news…Just like him being in a Raider uniform in 2011 was last years news….What do these Bay area beat writers do….???
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wait to suck off 49er staff members
October 19th, 2011 at 9:30 am
834.J Hill Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 9:26 am
Gardowski was NOT better than Campbell.
Amazing that there are a few cats still trying to push that.
And Cable was terrible too.
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Those cats had an agenda and YOU KNOW what I mean…cant hide yaself too long
October 19th, 2011 at 9:30 am
Not a big fan of the big/heavy nickel unless we are in 3rd and 6 or longer.
When we go to 1 LB and an extra S, that defense is too easy to run on.
October 19th, 2011 at 9:30 am
2011 Madden Protectors Award: Hall of Fame Coach John Madden selects Oakland Raiders as Top Protectors for Week 6. This impressive performance establishes the Raiders offensive line as contenders for the third annual Madden Protectors Award, presented by Prilosec OTC. The award honors the NFL’s best offensive line and will be presented during the week of Super Bowl XLVI, which will be played on February 5, 2012 in Indianapolis. “On an emotional day for the Oakland Raiders and a big game against Cleveland, the Raiders needed to run the ball well and their offensive line did a great job in making that happen,” said Pro Football Hall of Fame Coach JOHN MADDEN.
October 19th, 2011 at 9:30 am
837.Method To My Madness Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 9:29 am
828.autopalm77 Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 9:25 am
Doesn’t anyone listen…..Carson Palmer starting on Sunday was yesterdays news…Just like him being in a Raider uniform in 2011 was last years news….What do these Bay area beat writers do….???
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wait to suck off 49er staff members
LOL
October 19th, 2011 at 9:32 am
Good to hear Palmer will start this weekend.
Gives him 2 “tune up” game before we play SD.
October 19th, 2011 at 9:32 am
LOL, Simms Walker is back in Jacksonville…
October 19th, 2011 at 9:33 am
Receivers better work on those over the shoulder catches. The deep ball may have finally arrived folks…
October 19th, 2011 at 9:35 am
Hue Jackson: Memo to coaching staff. Before I(we) traded for Carson, I had a complete conversation with him in regards to throwing the ball away in the end zone and throwing interceptions to 400 lb lineman for TD’s.
October 19th, 2011 at 9:35 am
A backup QB is for finishing games, not finishing seasons when you are over .500. Unless you have no choice, which the Raiders always seem to have.
October 19th, 2011 at 9:35 am
831.hwnrdr Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 9:26 am
794.Sullivan44 Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 9:05 am
Hwnrdr,
Considering Jackson’s urgency to put the Campbell era to an utter and complete end yesterday, my belief is that he was the one who benched Campbell last year. But if you have any audio, transcripts, what have you that could prove otherwise, I’m paying attention.
Well, I don’t, but Ibelieve I saw that in Cable’s presser…you know I could be wrong, but…I don’t want to argue last year…I have my opinions, you have yours…I’ll respect yours, just do the same for me.
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MR has no self respect so why respect him?
October 19th, 2011 at 9:35 am
846.Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 9:35 am
A backup QB is for finishing games, not finishing seasons when you are over .500. Unless you have no choice, which the Raiders always seem to have.
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“Gooood times….anytime you need a payment”
October 19th, 2011 at 9:36 am
Hey, anybody have or know where I can find a COMPLETE list of all Raiders player’s (and coach’s, if they’re on there) twitter accounts? I feel like I’m missing some…
October 19th, 2011 at 9:36 am
Sullivan44 Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 8:58 am
LA to the Bay, I studied the Raiders’ playbook all year. I know every play, every audible. I practice for 8 hours a day. Sure, I’ve only played one year of HS football, no college, and I’m in my late 30s. But I practice really hard and I study the playbook! Why not start me?
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Cause you suck, much like Kyle Boller?
Not sure what you’re looking for here.
October 19th, 2011 at 9:37 am
Hue should start TP for the first play just to make t haley sheit bricks.
October 19th, 2011 at 9:37 am
Bo….sup with Michigan? Tough game last weekend
October 19th, 2011 at 9:37 am
I think I am getting pretty good at making Sullivan shut up.
October 19th, 2011 at 9:37 am
851.RaiderRetribution Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 9:37 am
Hue should start TP for the first play just to make t haley sheit bricks.
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That’s not a bad idea Ret…seriously
October 19th, 2011 at 9:37 am
The “secretive”…..Oakland Raiders…….
October 19th, 2011 at 9:38 am
Looking forward to Campbell coming and and taking a few snaps against the 9ers in February when we’re up by 28.
October 19th, 2011 at 9:38 am
853.HueKnows Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 9:37 am
I think I am getting pretty good at making Sullivan shut up.
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Obviously
October 19th, 2011 at 9:39 am
851.RaiderRetribution Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 9:37 am
Hue should start TP for the first play just to make t haley sheit bricks.
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If he is going to make him sheit bricks, I suppose he need TP. LMFAO
October 19th, 2011 at 9:40 am
Gunther would just blitz the doors off him.
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# RaiderRetribution Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 9:37 am
Hue should start TP for the first play just to make t haley sheit bricks.
October 19th, 2011 at 9:41 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 9:35 am
A backup QB is for finishing games, not finishing seasons when you are over .500. Unless you have no choice, which the Raiders always seem to have.
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Well said. Now tell it to Jerry Mac. He can’t seem to grasp that fact.
October 19th, 2011 at 9:41 am
J,
Ndukwe was probably brought in to spell Mike Missle in the big nickel.
October 19th, 2011 at 9:42 am
This staff is a bunch of cold blooded professionals, businessmen and cutthroats. I love it. It’s as it should be.
Even a hobbled Palmer could make throws Campbell could only dream about. I’m not a Campbell hater, but facts is facts.
October 19th, 2011 at 9:43 am
The happiest group of MFers are the Raiders WRs.
October 19th, 2011 at 9:43 am
RaiderRetribution Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 9:37 am
Hue should start TP for the first play just to make t haley sheit bricks.
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I was actually thinking something similar: send McFadden out there in the wildcat for the first series, or at least until we get a first down or two.
Maybe best not to get too cute and risk messing with your QBs rhythm though.
October 19th, 2011 at 9:44 am
Hope Hue still throws to score and runs to win, though.
Gotta lean on McFadden.
October 19th, 2011 at 9:44 am
Sullivan44 Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 9:26 am
Ha ha ha!!!
Yeah.
Where’s priest?
Come on, priest. Aren’t you out there in the tree with your binoculars watching Palmer? Can’t the kid play? Doesn’t the kid just have a perfect throwing motion and good posture? Doesn’t the kid just have a nice touch on the football?
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That was priceless. It had accuracy like few other posts in here. Accuracy like Priest is watching right now out at practice.
October 19th, 2011 at 9:46 am
862.SilverNBlackPA Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 9:42 am
This staff is a bunch of cold blooded professionals, businessmen and cutthroats. I love it. It’s as it should be.
Even a hobbled Palmer could make throws Campbell could only dream about. I’m not a Campbell hater, but facts is facts.
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Palmer is only better at throwing deep ball….but that means alot
October 19th, 2011 at 9:46 am
854.Method To My Madness Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 9:37 am
851.RaiderRetribution Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 9:37 am
Hue should start TP for the first play just to make t haley sheit bricks.
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That’s not a bad idea Ret…seriously
I agree…
October 19th, 2011 at 9:46 am
This youtube highlight reel that someone upthread posted: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEzdoVGFgIY
Worth noting that’s from 2009, one of the years Palmer was supposedly so terrible.
Again, there are throws there that JC cannot make.
October 19th, 2011 at 9:47 am
MTMM,
Bresh must have heard you beating the Hendu drum.
Coaches always talk about putting their players in “position to make plays”.
Hendu makes this possible.
Hendu allows Wimbley to shed his LB duties and concentrate on dropping the QB.
Hendu allows for the D to roll with two Linebackers and a roving safety shut down the Tight End (something I dread watching Wimbley do…).
Hendu puts our best players in positon to make plays.
October 19th, 2011 at 9:47 am
We should have done this deal before the season started we might be 5-1 or 6-0 and sittin pretty! Could have sent Murphy or Bush and saved a pic….If AL was here M Brown wouldn’t have pulled our pants down for two 1’s
October 19th, 2011 at 9:47 am
Also note his ability to move in the pocket. Not mobile? Not in a Mike Vick sense. But he can step up to avoid the rush just fine, thanks.
October 19th, 2011 at 9:47 am
I bet he can slide better than JC.
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# Method To My Madness Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 9:46 am
Palmer is only better at throwing deep ball….but that means alot
October 19th, 2011 at 9:48 am
Yeah B, MSU has our number. Denard is a so-so passer and we paid. But time is on our side. Hoke is the shizzit. A Mich man all day, every day. Not a weak punk like RichRod.
Re: Hoke, I loved when that POS Kyle Turley whined about him leaving SDSU. Like that is a comparable job!
“I’m going to retire as an Aztec” – never ever been said.
October 19th, 2011 at 9:50 am
Seymour last played like a monster last year vs KC in oakland….can he please wake up and do it again?
October 19th, 2011 at 9:50 am
For the JC fan club,
In our 3 wins, JC got 105 yds, 156 yds, and 190 yds. Alex Smith in 3 wins got 124 yds, 170 yds and 125 yds. Ebony and Ivory baby.
October 19th, 2011 at 9:51 am
870.Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 9:47 am
MTMM,
Bresh must have heard you beating the Hendu drum.
Coaches always talk about putting their players in “position to make plays”.
Hendu makes this possible.
Hendu allows Wimbley to shed his LB duties and concentrate on dropping the QB.
Hendu allows for the D to roll with two Linebackers and a roving safety shut down the Tight End (something I dread watching Wimbley do…).
Hendu puts our best players in positon to make plays.
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wow we agreeing? i must be sober
October 19th, 2011 at 9:51 am
861.LA to TheBay Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 9:41 am
J,
Ndukwe was probably brought in to spell Mike Missle in the big nickel.
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I hope he was brought here for STs.
I think it’s more a case of Mitchell is finally healthy and we are going to see him getting all the snaps that Boyd got.
Between Huff, Branch, Mitchell, and I guess this Gio guy, there is no reason to see Ndukwe on the field other than STs.
October 19th, 2011 at 9:51 am
RaiderDuck Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 8:37 am
La Milicia Negra Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 8:31 am
exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 8:06 am
Herrera is know for crunching #’s since learning the car business and assisted AD in cap matters.
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Bwahaha, assisted yeah, assisted as in he worked the copy machine! thats all that low IQ monkey abilities will amount to
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Now, now, now. He’s also good at picking fights with bay area beat reporters (like Tim Kawakami). Give the guy SOME credit.
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ahh true, well i was talking about his paid assignments, not his non-curricular stuff?
October 19th, 2011 at 9:52 am
Let us celebrate by adding liqour to our liver.
October 19th, 2011 at 9:53 am
just got palmer for my FFL team =)
October 19th, 2011 at 9:53 am
I think R Seymour already played his 1 game of the year he is on idle mode until his next injury.
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# Method To My Madness Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 9:50 am
Seymour last played like a monster last year vs KC in oakland….can he please wake up and do it again?
October 19th, 2011 at 9:53 am
If AL was here M Brown wouldn’t have pulled our pants down for two 1’s
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Greg Papa hinted yesterday Al wanted to wait for the price to drop on Palmer. Couldnt do it this past offseason and thought Palmer’s price would drop to a 2nd or 3rd at some point.
October 19th, 2011 at 9:53 am
876.aig-raiders Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 9:50 am
For the JC fan club,
In our 3 wins, JC got 105 yds, 156 yds, and 190 yds. Alex Smith in 3 wins got 124 yds, 170 yds and 125 yds. Ebony and Ivory baby.
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4-2 start for Raiders….nice to see you post more that JC got injured….coward
October 19th, 2011 at 9:53 am
Any word yet on the roster move for Palmer? Or are they waiting to see if they get a 1 week exemption?
October 19th, 2011 at 9:54 am
yeah AIG youi said JC would fail during summer cuz u knew it…4-2 start….eait it you bz
October 19th, 2011 at 9:54 am
MistaBrown Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 9:47 am
We should have done this deal before the season started we might be 5-1 or 6-0 and sittin pretty! Could have sent Murphy or Bush and saved a pic….If AL was here M Brown wouldn’t have pulled our pants down for two 1’s
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True dat
October 19th, 2011 at 9:55 am
Method To My Madness Says:
October 19th, 2011 at 9:50 am
Seymour last played like a monster last year vs KC in oakland
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Seymour and Kelly rated out as the top 2 DTs IN THE LEAGUE through week 5.
Just don’t see why you bash them.
Finally get a LB to play WLB for us, we protect the edges, and our run defense looks pretty good.
Henderson is a PART of he good run defense. So are a lot of other guys.
October 19th, 2011 at 9:55 am
Palmer also has a much quicker release. Can take advantage of open WRs faster, with fewer strips.
JC brought the ball way down south like Valenzuela or Tiant.
October 19th, 2011 at 9:56 am
Palmer sporting Mad Bomber’s #3.
Hope it’s not a tribute to Geoff George…….
October 19th, 2011 at 9:57 am
On top of that Seymour rotates in and out quite often. Wasn’t even on the field for the last play against the Texans. Also recall, him giving effort and not putzing around against the Jets caused Sanchez to come up short when he was diving towards the goal line.
October 19th, 2011 at 10:49 am
The comments here are delusional, this is the first time in a long time the Raiders have been relevant going into the 7th week of the season in almost 10 years. Jason Campbell led your team to a 4-2 record which should have been 5-1 if not for the debacle in Buffalo. While Hue may think he is chasing a championship with the linebacking and defensive backfield he has, they are several players and several years away from championship much less Super Bowl contention. (Stop Dreaming).
Mow you have waisted a ton of money and two much needed draft choices on a 32 year old gimpy quarterback. Stupid. Palmer’s statictics are gaudy but he threw the ball on almost every play and had 20 picks in his last season. I believe they were 4-12 his last year there. The Raiders won despite their horrific defende because they did not turn the ball over (Campbell had 3 picks in 6 games-the pick at the end of the Buffalo game was irrelevant). You guys better hope your O-Line holds up otherwise Palmer is going to be in serious trouble).
While I can understand Hue’s gamble with only Boller as an option, I wonder if the comments on this blog relative to Jason Campbell would be different if he were not black.
October 19th, 2011 at 10:56 am
And the winner with the exact score is:
Rosenthal’s pick: Raiders 24, Browns 17 (talking head)(Maybe he is an expert)
Blog Winners:
Zymurge Raiders 23, Browns 17
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October 19th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
Yo –
Raiders – 24, Chiefs 10
October 19th, 2011 at 1:35 pm
In four weeks we will be begging Campbell to get back on the field. This is a team sport can Palmer make the fit?
October 19th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
I was not a big Jason Campbell fan going into the season. I knew he was a good guy, but I wasn’t a fan of his performance on the field. Clearly, he proved to me that he can be a leader through his play up until Sunday. I feel he is a guy that often ends up at the wrong place at the wrong time. He went through too many coaching changes in Washington and was never able to establish consistency. He enters Oakland and this was the year he was supposed to do it. the consistency was beginning now this. Don’t get me wrong I like the aggressive move to pick up Carson Palmer because I did not believe we could last with Boller, but I do feel awful for Jason Campbell. I just have a picture in my head of him packing his things and headed somewhere else trying to make it work again. I hope the best for you Jason, and I hope you land somewhere and win a superbowl. It took Rich Gannon a long time to find the right fit but once he did he was great. I hope this happens to you some day!!
October 20th, 2011 at 12:08 am
If JCampbell is on the open market next season so should Palmer. If Marvin Lewis couldn’t coach him what makes this team have any faith in him. He quit on the Bengals and he” quit on the Raiders for sure!
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