Final: Chiefs 28, Raiders 0
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Sunday, October 23rd, 2011 at 4:11 pm in Oakland Raiders.
In the end, it didn’t matter whether the quarterback was Kyle Boller or Carson Palmer.
The Raiders’ secrecy about naming a starter was no mystery to the Kansas City Chiefs, who intercepted six passes Sunday and returned two of them for touchdowns Sunday in a 28-0 AFC West win at O.co Coliseum.
The loss snapped the Raiders’ eight-game winning streak in the AFC West and dropped their record to 4-3 heading into their bye week, where much time will be spent by coach Hue Jackson and offensive coordinator Al Saunders getting Palmer up to speed.
Kansas City, 3-3, has won three straight games, beating a team with a winning record for the first time this season.
The Raiders weren’t helped by the absence of their most explosive player, running back Darren McFadden, who left with an undisclosed injury after carrying twice for four yards and did not return.
Kendrick Lewis got Kansas City started with a 59-yard interception return on Boller’s first pass of the day. Brandon Flowers sent much of the crowd heading for the exits with 14:25 left by stealing a Palmer pass and racing 55 yards for a touchdown.
Palmer had two other interceptions, the last one coming on a deflected pass off the hands by Denarius Moore deep in Chiefs territory by Jon McGraw.
By the time Jackson gave the hook to Boller with 10:25 left in the third quarter, the Raiders trailed 21-0. He completed 7 of 14 passes for 61 yards with three interceptions, including a 59-yard interception return for a touchdown by Kendrick Lewis on his first pass of the day.
There was also a fumbled center snap with Boller’s back to the end zone, which he recovered.
Boller had been getting booed sporadically since the interception, with the level increasing until Palmer put on his helmet with while the Chiefs were in the process of a 66-yard drive that would put them up 21-0.
Besides the Lewis interception, Lewis overthrew Denarius Moore on a pass that was intercepted by Brandon Flowers, with Kansas City then driving 61 yards to score on a 1-yard run by Le’Ron McClain.
The other interception came on a forced pass to Heyward-Bey that Brandon Carr intercepted at the 10-yard line.
Oakland’s best chance to score in the first half was stuffed at the 1-yard line on fourth-and-goal when Michael Bush took a direct snap and was hit by Derrick Johnson.
The Raiders got into position to score on a 35-yard run by Bush.
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October 23rd, 2011 at 4:12 pm
This one is on you, Hue….
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:12 pm
DAMN
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:13 pm
An absolute disgrace. I’m embarrassed to be a Raiders fan.
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:13 pm
Looks like Haley was a little f@g during the handshake and tried to keep walking while Hue was talking to him….glad to see our rivalry isn’t dead. Hate they got the best of us today, but can’t wait to squash the Queefs next time
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:14 pm
get them next time…hue quit tyring to reinvent the game…
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:14 pm
Pretty Rick Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:09 pm
HueJax been gettn a lil Rex Ryanish lately,, I think it’s time for him to be just a tad bit quiet and focus on playing solid football from here on out. The Al Davis momentum is now gone, so we can’t rely on emotional highs to win games for us anymore. Less trick plays,, more smart plays. DVD coming of age so our cb2 spot is ok.
I was afraid DMAC would get hurt sooner or later. Hue just calm down and don’t get ahead of yourself and we’ll be fine.
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Good advice
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:14 pm
Well, that SUCKED!!!
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:15 pm
Hue sucks. That’s all there is to say about this. I know I’m in the minority, but I really dislike this guy.
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:15 pm
901Raider,
You at Click’s today?
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:15 pm
Joke ting bruh!
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:16 pm
aig-raiders Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:15 pm
901Raider,
You at Click’s today?
Wish I was. Out of State. (TN)…
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:17 pm
You knew this game was going to be an L when Boller stepped on to the field. It’s as much his fault as it is Hue Jackson’s.
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:17 pm
looked like a pre season game
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:17 pm
Get healthy and regroup.
I thought we would lose, but that was awful.
Palmer will be much sharper in two weeks.
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:18 pm
Just say a good line-Boller was the rotten cherry on top of a sour sundae.
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:19 pm
“Hue sucks.”
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He sure did today.
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:19 pm
Let’s be real,guys…..:if DMAC injury is serious,we are screwed….!
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:19 pm
[...] left with an undisclosed injury after carrying twice for four yards and did not return. Source: Oakland Tribune [...]
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:19 pm
Jackson’s play calling in this game was really, really bad.
He sends out Pryor, who hasn’t played a down on a QB sneak?
He goes for it again on 4th and goal and puts Bush in as QB!
Boller was what we expected but the play calling didn’t help.
Sending Palmer out was pointless since he’s only been with the team for three days, doesn’t know the playbook, is out of shape, and has no connection or rhythm with the receivers.
Carson damn near re-injured his knee on his first play-in fact the KC player who got the flag seemed to be trying for that.
When it comes to the defense they forgot they had to tackle and as old Al Davis always used to insist, if you keep blitzing you’re going to get burned.
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:20 pm
I’m so embarrassed I don’t even want to go to work tomorrow.
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:21 pm
It will be a freakin’ tough week,that’s for sure…..
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:21 pm
Boller no doubt sucked it up, but everyone is kidding themselves thinking he shouldn’t have been out there. I wanted him yanked just like the next man after the 2nd pick, but c’mon….no one else was ready to start today and the beating would have been just as bad. Hue should’ve had the boys prepared better, but he made the right choice going with Boller. Obviously didn’t pan out, but it was the right choice. Just sucks that we can’t count on our back-up to win 1 game. It is what it is though…. We’ll bounce back
Rack ‘em
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:21 pm
ok, some of the comments i’ve heard over the last wk. boller & jc r interchangeable. we finally have a legit qb in palmer, losing jc isn’t the end of the world, we won’t miss a beat…lol
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:22 pm
Life is brighter whe the Raiders win….!
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:22 pm
Would’ve been nice to get more than 3 plays out of McFadden too….good grief I hope he’s not really hurt and back to being McFragile……
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:22 pm
joker94583 Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:14 pm
Man Haley didn’t even look Hue in the eye during the handshake. Hue was still talking and Haley just kept walking. What a D Bag
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I saw that too, just figured he was trying to get some coaching pointers.
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:22 pm
We came out like we expected to lose. Why is Boller even on this team? We saw today why we sold the farm to get Palmer.
No pressure at all from the front seven, man I hate the Chiefs.
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:22 pm
Ok. This is my question. What member of management will call Hue in the office and go completely off on him for the play calling?
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:23 pm
Remortgage back the future
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:23 pm
Boller is terrible – How good is Soup again? We missed him big time today!
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:23 pm
This will be a loooong 2 weeks.
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:24 pm
We looked like the chiefs did in the first week.
Well bounce back like they did. Problem is we have to fix the QB position.
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:24 pm
Ouch. obviously
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:24 pm
Haley is a d!ck,but he totally outreached HJ today.Hope Hue learns from today and remembers come Dec.That pass into the endzone at the end of the game was BS.
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:24 pm
Bro’s this one is on me, dammit, sorry guys!
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:25 pm
I never thought I could even think this….but indeed I really missed Soup today.
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:26 pm
I thought or OL was our strenght
Well today it was inexistent. I dont care who cas the QB
The chefs dominated the lines of scrimmage
Thats it
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:27 pm
Man the next two weeks are going to blow, no sports television for me!
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:28 pm
KC still sucks, we gave this game away in every phase of the game
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:29 pm
36.Torto34 Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:25 pm
I never thought I could even think this….but indeed I really missed Soup today.
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Campbell would have just about as bad with those decisions and that play calling.
The Raiders took KC for granted some.
Two first round picks for Palmer is way too high but he’s a good QB and the best one on the roster,
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:29 pm
On the bright side, Curry looked like a monster out there. Loved his energy after every play too. Wish someone would’ve recovered the fumble he forced. Could’ve been a huge momentum play. Keeping my fingers crossed that McClain can be playing alongside with him in two weeks.
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:29 pm
What a disgrace. Nice game plan Hue. I cannot stand this. He looks like a complete buffoon standing on the sideline.
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:30 pm
This game was Hue and Al Davis’ fault. This may be the last game we can blame Davis for. There was no way we should have went into the season with Boller as our backup. Has Campbell ever made it through a season without getting injured? Hue made terrible calls today. Also, if Boller was going to start, he should have got all the practice snaps this week. Quit being so cute Hue and just play smart football. Could have won this game if they just played smart and conservative.
I’m going to the Denver game, please don’t disappoint me Raiders.
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:30 pm
Am I the only one who wanted the Raiders D to rack up a world record of penalties once the game was lost. Seriously, our guys hit like a girl. The game is lost, make sure that punk bowe remembers how he had his legs broken at the O.Co.
I wanted them to bring the pain. I wanted another RoMac power-bomb or suplex. I wanted hits like McPain laid on Sproles.
Just like the good old days when the boss was alive and well, if you can’t win today, make them pay. Where is the Soul Patrol now? There is no way that Breaston or Bowe leave the Colosseum alive if Jack, George, Willie, and Skip were there; the Assassin is turning over in his grave.
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:30 pm
MakeItRain Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:28 pm
KC still sucks, we gave this game away in every phase of the game
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Very true.
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:30 pm
Can you say…exposed!
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:31 pm
If Campbell was the QB today and Jackson called the same game he called today,the results would have been the same.
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:31 pm
Hue’s not going to let that end of the game pass slide. Look for us to do everything in our power to run it up in KC later this year.
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:31 pm
The terrrible play of the game was the 3rd and 1 play with Pryor.
The penalty, of many, set the team back 5 yards and forced Boller to make a play.
A pick six kills you big time…..
Then the next pick cut the field in half and the Chiefs marched down the field and scored again.
Third pick hurt the team because the Raiders were driving to score.
Then the inability of Bush and the O-line to get in the end zone….
Team was not ready to really play today
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:31 pm
Wow! How can this team look so bad? KC can’t be that good, can they?
Hope some folks get better during the by-week.
Guess this will slow down the Super Bowl comments for a while.
And the Broncos won today. Yuch.
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:31 pm
This was a wakeup call for the players, for Hue, for the fans, and I love it!
Hue started to forget he’s a rookie and has been really feeling himself with his newfound power. I thought the bad 4th down that almost came back to bite him last week would teach him. Hopefully this will.
The players thought they could steamroll the west like they did last year.
We, as fans, were overlooking KC and DEN in anticipation of SD.
The problem with being a bully, is that eventually someone fights back.
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:32 pm
901Raiders Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:22 pm
Ok. This is my question. What member of management will call Hue in the office and go completely off on him for the play calling?
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Maybe Herrera will have a talk with him and accuse him of smoking pot.
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:32 pm
Chris – agreed….I’m sure he said something about it to Haley at the end of the game, and Haley of course being the pr!ck he is, tried to keep walking.
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:33 pm
KC isn’t even good.
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:33 pm
Somebody in the organization needs to put the garden gnome in his place. His ego has gotten bigger than his bald ugly head.
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:33 pm
The reason we lost is simple & it isn’t hu jack. THIS TEAM IS NOT THE SAME WITHOUT JASON CAMPBELL!!!!
Boller doesn’t have the goods like jc does. That is easy to see.
Everyone made statments that Palmer off the couch would be a major upgrade to jc, WRONG!!!! you have fallen victim to the hype & severely under alued what jc brings to the table.
Besides jc highly accurate rocket right arm, & play making ability, you failed to realize how important having complete command of the offense is. Jc knew how to audible from bad plays to good based on presnap reads. It will take Palmer months to get that down.
The biggest difference & what was missed most however is JC’S FIRE & LEADERSHIP!!! the offense & team is very young & they didn’t have jc’s cool even keeled calming influence. This is why the team around the qb played so poorly. Palmer has never been a guy that is known to digs deep when it gets rough. True to form he imploded. We have all seen jc struggle in parts of games only to shake it off & deliver victory in the clutch. Even bringing us back from behind on several occasions.
I know you will say Palmer is just rusty, but I don’t think that is the sole reason for his lousy showing. Remember Palmer has an interception machine over his career, even at his best. You will now realize exactly what jc means to this team.
Boller & Palmer with 3 picks per half each & both with highly dubious pick sixes.
JC GET HEALTHY WE CAN’T DO IT WITHOUT YOU!
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:33 pm
Who knew Jason Campbell was so integral to the success of this football team? lol. 6 int in one game is unacceptable even for a crummy back up and a guy who has a lot of rust. One think is for certain, Kyle Boller must go. Palmer will pull it together and be a good QB.
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:33 pm
lefty12 Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:31 pm
If Campbell was the QB today and Jackson called the same game he called today,the results would have been the same.
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Can’t agree with you there. JC is a game manager…don’t thnk he’s tossing 3 picks
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:33 pm
NOLA Raider Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:30 pm
Am I the only one who wanted the Raiders D to rack up a world record of penalties once the game was lost. Seriously, our guys hit like a girl. The game is lost, make sure that punk bowe remembers how he had his legs broken at the O.Co.
I wanted them to bring the pain. I wanted another RoMac power-bomb or suplex. I wanted hits like McPain laid on Sproles.
Just like the good old days when the boss was alive and well, if you can’t win today, make them pay. Where is the Soul Patrol now? There is no way that Breaston or Bowe leave the Colosseum alive if Jack, George, Willie, and Skip were there; the Assassin is turning over in his grave.
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We did get two unnecessary roughness penalties on that last drive and easily could’ve had a third. With fines handed out like crazy in today’s game you can’t expect guys to get too crazy.
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:33 pm
I told you guys earlier in the week about Boller.It’s like playing 12 vs 10 when he is on the field.No leadership…locks on to the primary receiver only!!!
This guy needs to donate his paycheck to charity for this game…JUST AWFUL!!!!
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:34 pm
This game just showed how terrible Boller really is. Should have upgraded that position. That’s on Al.
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:35 pm
you fans crack me up! when we win hue is the best HC since Gruden but when we lose he’s the worst. lol
there have to be some up and downs with change. I for one i’m excited to see how the team looks once Palmer is acclimated to the offense and we get back some injured players. Go Raiders!
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:35 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:33 pm
The reason we lost is simple & it isn’t hu jack. THIS TEAM IS NOT THE SAME WITHOUT JASON CAMPBELL!!!!
Boller doesn’t have the goods like jc does. That is easy to see.
Everyone made statments that Palmer off the couch would be a major upgrade to jc, WRONG!!!! you have fallen victim to the hype & severely under alued what jc brings to the table.
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Mistic,
Boller is buring hot garbage. Anyone who though Boller was = to JC doesn’t watch the game.
Carson Palmer off 3 days of practice…..again, anyone who sincerely thought Carson off the couch is better than JC doesn’t know football.
Hue should have called a much more conservative game
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:35 pm
This was the game to run the ball, get field position and play great defense
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:36 pm
Palmer looked slow, immobile and with only an average arm. Hue has screwed this organization for the next decade.
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:36 pm
Lefty12 Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:31 pm
If Campbell was the QB today and Jackson called the same game he called today,the results would have been the same.
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No it wouldn’t. Campbell would have methodically moved the team down the field instead of making errant throw after errant throw and holding on to the ball forever like Boller did.
People need to get over themselves if they don’t think losing Campbell hurt. Makes me sick.
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:36 pm
That BS that Bowe pulled in the Black Hole earned him the same smoting that T.O. took when he decided to pose on the star in Dallas. Screw that punk. The D better pay that punk back with interest.
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:36 pm
It’s funny, we lose a game without our starting QB AND our league leading running back injured, and so many people want Hue Jackson’s head on a stake. Give me a break. When we beat the Broncos after the bye, you will all be on Hue’s jock like you were last week again. Fairweather fans.
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:36 pm
ravenaider Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:33 pm
I told you guys earlier in the week about Boller.It’s like playing 12 vs 10 when he is on the field.No leadership…locks on to the primary receiver only!!!
This guy needs to donate his paycheck to charity for this game…JUST AWFUL!!!!
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Can’t agree….Boller should keep his paycheck…as long as its his last as a Raider
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:37 pm
No reason fans should be embarrassed…The fans did there part…Defense did there’s…Live a Raider, die a Raider…Tons of young talent and now a great quarterback…The only question I have is do we have a coach who is capable of preparing this young team to succeed…Anyone who has followed the Raiders as long as I have knows that after having gone for the touchdown last week instead of going up three scores to all but end last weeks game and not converting, should have the same concerns about the COACH, as I do…If your a gunfighter, someone eventually will be quicker on the draw, if you play poker and bluff, your bound to get called…Well, Hue, I have a pair of aces to your 10 high….I am heading out and I am hitching up my Raiders cap and wearing it PROUDLY…Live a Raider, die a Raider….!!!!
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:37 pm
Ugh!
Go bye week!!
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:38 pm
I do have to say I have come to really dislike the “I’m keeping my starting QB a secret” bit. Only seems to screw up your own team. We saw this over and over with Kiffin. Saw it again this week. Best to just make sure your team knows what’s going on before you try to fool the other team.
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:38 pm
Stop blaming the coach & the ghost of al Davis, it’s laughable. Hu jack & Davis didn’t throw 6, count them, 6 picks!!!! You didn’t give the qb we had enough credit when he was healthy & you make excuses so you don’t have to admit that we missed him today.
Keep it real like lemon peel folks WE LOST OUR BEST QB & LEADER THIS IS WHY WE LOST
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:38 pm
Everyone is so damn sensitive in here. We sucked today and deserved to get ripped for that performance. Only the D deserves a mulligan for having to be on the field after all those huge negative momentum swings. But still, it’s only 1 loss. The blowout doesn’t mean it counts for 3 or 4 L’s. We’ll be aiight
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:39 pm
4-12 with 20 interceptions and nine dropped interceptions is no mirage. Plus the guy bragged about $80 million in the bank and flat out quit on the Bengals. Gave up a 1st and 2nd for this guy. I’m very, very nervous.
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:40 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:34 pm
This game just showed how terrible Boller really is. Should have upgraded that position. That’s on Al.
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I think Hue may have had closer ties with Boller than Al.
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:41 pm
I’d brag if I had 80 mil in the bank too. I’d rub it in everyone’s face. I”M RICH!
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:41 pm
Chris In NY Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:33 pm
NOLA Raider Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:30 pm
Am I the only one who wanted the Raiders D to rack up a world record of penalties once the game was lost. Seriously, our guys hit like a girl. The game is lost, make sure that punk bowe remembers how he had his legs broken at the O.Co.
I wanted them to bring the pain. I wanted another RoMac power-bomb or suplex. I wanted hits like McPain laid on Sproles.
Just like the good old days when the boss was alive and well, if you can’t win today, make them pay. Where is the Soul Patrol now? There is no way that Breaston or Bowe leave the Colosseum alive if Jack, George, Willie, and Skip were there; the Assassin is turning over in his grave.
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We did get two unnecessary roughness penalties on that last drive and easily could’ve had a third. With fines handed out like crazy in today’s game you can’t expect guys to get too crazy.
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Every other team that we have played hits hard and on target. We seem to tackle at bad angles and the hits that we do generate are not crushing blows but instead glancing blows. Not good. They have to tattoo people. Bullies are remembered for the pain and humiliation they cause. Today were were battered and humiliated by one of the worst teams in football.
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:41 pm
This season is just riddled w/ significant injuries across the league. Gee I wonder if the lockout had anything to do w/ that.
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:41 pm
KC did not impress me. Cassel will never take that team anywhere. We should’ve manhandled them. Too many injuries and too many sloppy plays by the guys in silver & black. WRs were awful. Offensive line was sub-par. QB play was obviously atrocious.
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:42 pm
This team is a fraud. We won the last two games on emotion and trick plays. The Emperor has no clothes. All bluster, no substance.
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:43 pm
Trent Green probably was pissed because this guy stayed and he was cut.I don’t blame him.I am sorry that it went down like this but at least the Chargers lost.Many in the RAIDER NATION had no seen Kyle Boller-just heard about him.
Why is he in the NFL? Seriously-doesn’t make any sense to carry this dead weight on the roster.
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:44 pm
@82 Trent edwards
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:44 pm
lefty12 Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:31 pm
If Campbell was the QB today and Jackson called the same game he called today,the results would have been the same.
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The fact is,if Campbell was playing,Hue probably would have called a different game….!
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:45 pm
****EDWARDS**** sorry I am pissed
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:45 pm
KC last year lost Cassel vs SD. they lost 31-0. We lost Campbell and KC beats us 28-0. Your starting QB is really important even if he is average.
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:46 pm
thanx Hue
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:46 pm
lol, so comical how some people here won’t or just can’t recognize the fact jc as a starter for the last 2 seasons is 11-7 as starter while everyone else is 1-4. 6 ints, really????
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:46 pm
I am Spartacus Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:42 pm
This team is a fraud. We won the last two games on emotion and trick plays. The Emperor has no clothes. All bluster, no substance.
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I disagree. We didn’t have our best player. Our backup QB basically handed them the game. It was obvious the team was unfocused and felt like they couldn’t win after that first pick-six, 2:30 into the game.
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:47 pm
lol. Just a matter of getting new players in sync w/ the rest of the team. Remember last year when we had Campbell and Grads out there and losing ugly games? 4-2 at the bye and SD playing atrocious. Still plenty of football to play
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:47 pm
People forget athletes are people not robots. You don’t simply plug guys in & expect the same result. This team is very young & impressionable. The team captain & leader was down, so naturally the team must lean more on hu jack. If hu jack suddenly does an about face & changes his style coaching & play calling he is yelling the youngsters that he doesn’t think they are good enough to win. This in turn would destroy the confidence of the team.
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:47 pm
Hue will man up and put the L on him. Thats what stand up guys do. He knows we have to get to work and we’ll right the ship. This game will be a distant memory in 6 weeks when we’re sitting at the top of the division with a 2 game cushion.
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:47 pm
Some of you guys think the Raiders will rebound from this. The odds are this is the beginning of a complete meltdown. Hue is a clown, a court jester. He’ll lose the locker room by the San Diego game.
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:48 pm
4-3 at the bye.
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:48 pm
SnB,I disagree 1000% with your statement.BTW,you contradict yourself and support what I’m saying.With Boller,a conservative game plan SHOULD have been the order of the day,not coming out trying to throw the ball all over the park-the same game plan he constantly used with JC.
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:49 pm
Losing DMAC early affected the gameplan big time!
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:49 pm
Our offense was named DMac.
He didn’t play today.
It was all downhill from there.
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:50 pm
Agreed…play calling horrible. What is with all the gimmick plays? Seems he didn’t take Chiefs serious and used this as a pre-season game…HUE you’re making Harbaugh look like a genius
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1.901Raiders Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:12 pm
This one is on you, Hue….
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:50 pm
Torto-that is what I’m saying and he should have called the SAME game.
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:50 pm
You Know what? Glad you asked. When playing zone and the offense cathches the ball in front of you, the secondary have to make a tackle before the offense makes the first down!!! That is plain and simple !!! How many times can this go on before other teams call the secondary soft. Oh, I believe Coach Haley was making that statement today!!!!!! The linebacker play tough , the line play tough and the secondary always seem to try to find a soft place to land while making a tackles. This is not directed to DVD he is a rookie and I see him battling. It is for everyone in the secondary that won’t let the defense come off the field, especially on third downs.
Curry, thanks for the fire. you are playing well.
Moore, on the first pick see what shoulder he is on then you now you have to protect that side. That is part of being a rookie. you well learn!! The second drop is totally on you but I know how great you will be. Keep your head up.
Carson alone can’t win this division. If you were counting on him to be the savior, that is a fools dream. It take a good Raiders team to win a division and that has not changed since Hue took over this team.
Some may blame Hue that they lost. I Blame the Raiders team how they lost!!!!
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:50 pm
Obviously, it’s about HueJax. One can only handle so much, you start believing your own BS and it will definitely come back to bite you in the butt.
This Raider team is not ready to win a super bowl, or even the AFC West now, specially with Palmer.
And, HueJax is putting all the Raiders’ eggs in this basket case. I am still willing to give Palmer another shot, but I’m not holding my breath.
Carson Palmer is an interception machine, look it up. What we saw today, is the Carson Palmer of the last two years. He’ll break your heart every time. I have seen him play since he was in high school in OC, a good QB but has never done anything great, and he will not get it done here, I am sorry to say. Might as well if he wore #2 instead of #3, he is not that much better, you watch.
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:50 pm
I don’t think Al was a fan of trick plays. He wanted a team that could dominate. If you are getting your ass kicked, trick plays are not going to save you.
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:51 pm
Hue has a lot on his shoulders from this L deservably, but too much is being blamed on him for players not earning their check. It’s not like Boller was asked to make difficult throws over corner’s heads and in front of safeties. His first pick was a poor read combined with the softest sideline throw we’ve seen this year, and the others were one on one coverage throws where he has to lead his receiver. Boller just didn’t show up, nor did our coaching staff, or the rest of the O.
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:51 pm
The season from here on out is on Palmer’s shoulders. As it should be given what we have given up for him.
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:51 pm
82.ravenaider Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:43 pm
Edwards was contacted before the Palmer deal…He spurned the Raiders
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Trent Green probably was pissed because this guy stayed and he was cut.I don’t blame him.I am sorry that it went down like this but at least the Chargers lost.Many in the RAIDER NATION had no seen Kyle Boller-just heard about him.
Why is he in the NFL? Seriously-doesn’t make any sense to carry this dead weight on the roster.
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:53 pm
KC was going to stack the box and take McFadden away and dare oakland to beat them w/ the pass. I would’ve tried passing also to punish their defense set up. Have to say didn’t think Boller would suck that much, but he did and then some.
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:53 pm
We needed Campbell today. I want to hear all of you say it right now.
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:53 pm
Awful Awful and more Awful. This loss is not Carson Palmer’s fault at all. Coach Hue left Boller in the game way too long. Coach needed to put Carson in the game sooner to get all jitters out the way and his rhythm set. Those suckers gotta us today…we will get em next time. What the heck was wrong with our D today? Our Raiders looked Poorly. Our game play was horrendous today. I bet Jason Campbell got a couple of laughs at this stupid game. The Raiders stunk the stadium up. No doubt about it.
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:53 pm
If Hue knows Bolle sucks, then put in place a game plan that he can manage. I’ve never trusted this huckster. It’s always all about him. Love to be a fly on the wall in the offices of top management. This guy also grates on the media, just read between the lines.
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:54 pm
I felt that this was going to be a tough game and we might lose, but I never thought we would be so completely inept.
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:55 pm
When we won our 1st SB in 1976 we lost a game something like 48-3.We lost,but I have faith we will be back.The Donkeys will pay for today.
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:55 pm
HueKnows Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:40 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:34 pm
This game just showed how terrible Boller really is. Should have upgraded that position. That’s on Al.
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I think Hue may have had closer ties with Boller than Al.
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Al was still running the team.
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:56 pm
Kyle Boller was out of the league in 2009, after failing miserably in 2008, and yet Hue broke him back from the dead, and upgraded his depth on the roster this year.
EPIC FAIL Hue, epic.
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:57 pm
Pryor play on first drive = dumb…
Bush in wildcat 4th n goal = dumb…
You only get so many chances a game…
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:57 pm
We lost our starting QB and star RB. Not a surprise that we lost. But, I blame Hue for the way we lost. If he would have coached smarter, the game would have been close and the Raider still could have won it. The Chiefs are not a good team. They were lucky to have played the Raiders when they did.
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:58 pm
I’m still behind Hue’s aggressive playcalling. I’ll take that any day!
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:58 pm
Wow. Calm down ppl wiht the Hue Jack hate. ONE guy is responsible for this and his name is KYLE BOLLER. Blaming Hue for that sht he put on the field is CRAZY!!!
The guy trow 3 picks and was flat awful everytime he went back to throw. We ran the ball plenty but you cannot run every damn down. Your QB needs to do what he’s paid to do. Boller was GAWD AWFUL!!
I stand plenty corrected with my initial thoughts that Boller would be OK. Boy we saved the season by getting Palmer!
If you guys don’t see that, you don’t know sht about football.
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:58 pm
I can’t stand Dan Farts commentating. Farts was upset about the the Dolts losing against the Jets today..
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:58 pm
Gameplan went out the window the second McFadden got hurt.
Boller put us in a hole early and things snowballed.
Not giving up on the Raiders after this showing like some of you are.
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:59 pm
JFB – with that logic, lets just hope Carson wasn’t/isn’t dead too! Lol
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:59 pm
Kyle Boller’s 22.3 QB rating today was worse than any start EVER by either Jamarcus Russell or Bruce Gradkowski.
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:59 pm
Hue had to start Boller. What do you think it would say to the rest of the team if he didn’t give Boller a chance to start?
It would have been a stretch to think that Palmer could have won a game fresh off the couch with DMac on the shelf.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:00 pm
Goldie7 Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:58 pm
I can’t stand Dan Farts commentating. Farts was upset about the the Dolts losing against the Jets today..
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I don’t mind Fouts. It’s kind of like listening to your silly drunk uncle tell stories.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:00 pm
The fact is,if Campbell was playing,Hue probably would have called a different game….!
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That is true but a lot of Hue’s plays in this game shouldn’t be called with any quarterback.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:00 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:55 pm
HueKnows Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:40 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:34 pm
This game just showed how terrible Boller really is. Should have upgraded that position. That’s on Al.
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Al is dead. I didn’t hear about him walking up and down the sidelines like in the past. My guess he relied on Hue’s opinion just a hair.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:00 pm
If Campbell was in this game we win going away. Boller was soo damn awful they need to cut him right away or at a min reduce him to #3. That sht was bad.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:01 pm
109.I am Spartacus Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:53 pm
If Hue knows Bolle sucks, then put in place a game plan that he can manage. I’ve never trusted this huckster. It’s always all about him. Love to be a fly on the wall in the offices of top management. This guy also grates on the media, just read between the lines.
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What is “a game plan that he can mangage”???? Run the ball at a stacked box on every play??? The only way we were going to win today was for Boller/Palmer to make plays passing the football and play good D. This team did neither. Palmer has been a turnover machine the last two years, but he gets a pass today. When he takes the field against Denver though, no more excuses.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:01 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:38 pm
Stop blaming the coach & the ghost of al Davis, it’s laughable. Hu jack & Davis didn’t throw 6, count them, 6 picks!!!! You didn’t give the qb we had enough credit when he was healthy & you make excuses so you don’t have to admit that we missed him today.
Keep it real like lemon peel folks WE LOST OUR BEST QB & LEADER THIS IS WHY WE LOST
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Stp with the mad mancrush.
You love JC. Fine.
He’s an average qb, at best, and was never a leader. Admits he’s not a leader. the guy shows about as much emotion as a log.
He got benched twice last year fora reason.
For fun I’m going to go back and see what tears you shed after both games.
Stop kissing JC”s azz
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:01 pm
Aside from some of the good players on this team I do have to agree w/ jerry mac when he said the org. might’ve dropped the ball w/ having Boller as a backup. That needs to be addressed and I’d bet anything Jackson is looking at that. Ain’t no way he’s standing pat w/ Boller at no. 2.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:01 pm
I can’t believe all the Hue apologists in here. If this were Cable, the vast majority would be all over him. Hue is a decent OC and nothing more. I’ve been saying for two years that he is a conniving backstabber. I think people will start waking up to that fact soon.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:02 pm
I actually loved the aggressive playcalling with the downfield chances. They were just executed poorly. What I don’t like though is coming out of halftime running a flea-flicker. It sends the message that we need trick plays and that we can’t just dominate the point of attack when we all know we can….
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:02 pm
Last week, on 4th and 1, ON THE FIRST PLAY AFTER SOUP GOT HURT, Hue ran Boller on a QB sneak and converted.
Apparently, after a week of practice reps, Hue felt he had better options on 3rd and 1 for Boller.
If we just convert that 3rd and 1, this is a massively different ballgame.
Hue’s biggest issue, is getting way too cute at times, and it got us off on the wrong foot today.
Bullies don’t run cutsie plays for their rookie QB, in motion, on 3rd and 1.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:02 pm
114….dumb and dumber…Whasn’t that a movie starring Hue Jackson…..???
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:03 pm
Plunder Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:58 pm
Gameplan went out the window the second McFadden got hurt.
Boller put us in a hole early and things snowballed.
Not giving up on the Raiders after this showing like some of you are.
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This is a dead on post!
The game plan was to start Boller and feed KC a heavy dose of Mcfadden. When he went down, that all changed.
An attempt was made to let Boller try and beat them with his arm, and we all know that is almost impossible.
Palmer came in with a 21-0 lead, and it is completely UNFAIR to ask him to try and lead us to a victory.
That pick 6 was clearly as a result of him trying too hard to make something out of nothing.
Under the circumstances, Palmer played excellent.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:03 pm
Hated to see the blow out today. Shorter passes should have been ordered after seeing that Boller does not have the deep arm and Palmer showed the rust today. T. Jones probably should have been used alot more much like McFadden. Louis Murphy is a waste to use as a receiver he did not go for the ball and dropped one right in his bread basket. Need to work on right combination of front D line to get to the quarterback.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:04 pm
Just Win Baby Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:41 pm
I’d brag if I had 80 mil in the bank too. I’d rub it in everyone’s face. I”M RICH!
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makes u an idiot.
you don’t bank 80 mil, then quit on the team that gave it to you.
How many SB’s did Palm bring to Cinc?
Zero. He’s done nothing to brag.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:04 pm
Hahahaha….he didn’t play excellent, but I see what you’re trying to say about Palmer.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:04 pm
I screamed all offseason about the need for upgrading the #2 spot this offseason.
Soup has never played a full 16 games in a season, either due to getting benched or injured.
Rolling with Boller was a recipe for disaster, and I seen it back in July.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:05 pm
“I’m going to build a Bully here”…..
Hue Jackson
Bullies would have lined up and pounded the ball into the endzone. I cant remember a team of Bullies that used so many trick and gadget plays…. We have the fastest receivers in the league. Don’t need flea flickers for them to get open and hit them deep. Was glad a little when Palmer came in. Some of the foolishness stopped with the play calling. Their timing will get better and we’ll be fine, but Hue Jackson really needs to check himself. Sometimes you just need to line up and run it. Zack Crockett did it for us. People knew it was coming and couldn’t stp it. Use the bye to get back to the basics….
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:05 pm
We had over 100yds rushing in the 1st half man!!!
This was all on the QB = Kyle Boller. Not the HC. The run game was fine considering DMC was out but your QB needs to at least be able to throw the ball! Everytime he threw it it was nearly a pick! You can’t fault the HC for that. PHHUUULEEEZZE!
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:05 pm
Campbell would’ve done a lot better in this game but for the post season we needed a better QB. Not knowing how to slide? Not only that, knocking your own ball lose? Come on!
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:06 pm
Arguably the dumbest comment I’ve seen in a while, on any board. How can you say that, man?
ArmChair GM Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:03 pm
Under the circumstances, Palmer played excellent.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:07 pm
Reality check:
Cmon Man,…..Your starting QB just went down, you can’t expect to sure up that position in one week.
Today was McFadden’s day to step up and carry this team, be we all see what he did with it…
Ran and hid on the bench……
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:08 pm
And I mean, I would LOVE to be a big Boller fan.
He is a Cal Bear, and married to a crazy right-winger. My type of dude.
But I can’t turn a blind eye to how much he sucks. He now has 12 TD’s and 29 turnovers since 2007!!!
Good gawd, turn this guy into glue already!!!
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:08 pm
And yet, still 5 pts better than Palm’s 17 qb rating.
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:59 pm
Kyle Boller’s 22.3 QB rating today was worse than any start EVER by either Jamarcus Russell or Bruce Gradkowski.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:08 pm
The most you can blame Hue for is having Boller on the damn roster! But that sht Boller put on the field was just that …sht!
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:09 pm
Kyle Boller = the worst Al Davis FA signing since Jovan Walker
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:09 pm
There is no doubt that Boller is Hue’s man. That alone has to be reason to worry.
And now Hue mortages our future with Palmer. Palmer has an excuse, but he looked god awful.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:09 pm
I agree that Hue was way too cute and that his play calling was sub-par, but at one point in the game Boller was 1/3 for 4 yards and two picks. He was bad to the point where it bled into other phases of the game.
I dont care what kind of gameplan you have or who you’re playing, when your best offensive player gets hurt and your QB throws 3 picks (one of them for a score) in one half, that’s a loss every single time.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:10 pm
132….Run the sneak twice if need be….I agree…!!!!
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:10 pm
5:04 PM Hue: “Kyle Boller didn’t lose this game. Hue Jackson lost this game.” (VittorioTafur)
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I guess Hue is owning up and that’s what a coach should do.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:11 pm
I just hope McFadden’s sprained foot is not serious. We do need that man!
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:12 pm
132.Just Fire Baby Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:02 pm
Last week, on 4th and 1, ON THE FIRST PLAY AFTER SOUP GOT HURT, Hue ran Boller on a QB sneak and converted.
Apparently, after a week of practice reps, Hue felt he had better options on 3rd and 1 for Boller.
EXACTLY…100%!
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If we just convert that 3rd and 1, this is a massively different ballgame.
Hue’s biggest issue, is getting way too cute at times, and it got us off on the wrong foot today.
Bullies don’t run cutsie plays for their rookie QB, in motion, on 3rd and 1.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:13 pm
Heard the Donks are God awful w/ Tebow. Perfect game to start w/ Palmer.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:13 pm
EXACTLY…100%
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Just Fire Baby Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:02 pm
Last week, on 4th and 1, ON THE FIRST PLAY AFTER SOUP GOT HURT, Hue ran Boller on a QB sneak and converted.
Apparently, after a week of practice reps, Hue felt he had better options on 3rd and 1 for Boller.
If we just convert that 3rd and 1, this is a massively different ballgame.
Hue’s biggest issue, is getting way too cute at times, and it got us off on the wrong foot today.
Bullies don’t run cutsie plays for their rookie QB, in motion, on 3rd and 1
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:13 pm
England – exactly…thats all we can ask of the man…yea, he had a bad game, but he’ll man up and it’s only 1 L. No matter how ugly, it only counts as 1. We have two weeks to get to work and then they’ll do their thing. Hopefully Carson does a lot of work on his own or with Hue, because with the new rules I don’t believe they can get together as a team dictated practice over the bye week or can they?
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:13 pm
140-You can fault the passes that are called.You can fault the wildcat on the 1 on 4th down with Bush.You can fault using a player who had never played 1(ONE) down in the NFL-regular or pre-season-on a motion,trick play.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:13 pm
The run game was fine considering DMC was out but your QB needs to at least be able to throw the ball!
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Bush repeatedly failed on 3rd and 1 ad 4th and 1 going back to last week.
Hue is calling plays based on his confidence that a “monster back” like Bush can get 1 damn yard.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:15 pm
Kyle Boller’s great highlight of his career
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cur_3DSpOH4&feature=related
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:15 pm
Hue felt the DIRE URGENCY to rush Pryor on the field on the 3rd offensive play of the game, and than not another play the rest of the game.
Not sure if that speaks such negative volumes towards Hue Jackson’s play-calliing or Terrell’s QB’ing.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:16 pm
I’m afraid that Hue wants to be the center of attention. He wants to win with his “brilliant” play calling. I hope I’m wrong but this could be disaster.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:16 pm
You guys are fooling yourselves. There was no way we could have won this with Boller. I was fooling myself. I didn’t know he was THAT bad! Did you see those balls??
Throwing in double coverage. Off the mark. Panicing in the pocket.
Have you ever seen Campbell get hit like that behind this line??? That should tell you right there somethings wrong. Not even Palmer was getting hit like Boller. That should tell you something. HE’S NOT GETTING RID OF THE BALL OR SEEING THE FIELD!!!
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:17 pm
So Hue had no Plan B? No adjustments at Halftime? He needs to take most of the blame. Should not have wastes so many first string snaps on Palmer. I was hoping Palmer would at least look impressive with some throws. He was just plain bad.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:17 pm
Yes this was a lame call which changed the momentum big time!!
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Lefty12: You can fault using a player who had never played 1(ONE) down in the NFL-regular or pre-season-on a motion,trick play.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:18 pm
RaiderGator Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:06 pm
Arguably the dumbest comment I’ve seen in a while, on any board. How can you say that, man?
ArmChair GM Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:03 pm
Under the circumstances, Palmer played excellent.
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You guys obviously don’t read do you? Or have something called READING COMPREHENSION.
I did not make a blanket statement saying that Palmer played EXCELLENT.
I made what is called a QUALIFYING STATEMENT.
“UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES!”
Do you all know what that means?
A guy is on the couch, hasn’t played a lick of football in almost a year, doesn’t get many reps in practice, barely knows the playbook, doesn’t start the game, and is thrust into the game where he is in the hole 21 points! His receivers dropped balls, quit on certain routes, ran bad routes, and were out of sync with him.
Under those circumstances, he played WELL.
I stand by it.
Please understand the meaning of a QUALIFYING or EXTENUATING circumstance. It’s ENGLISH 101.
Then try and criticize my statement. Mental midgets.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:19 pm
Not the end of the world. Boller dug a hole for the team, Palmer’s inexperience in the offense forced him to shorten the playbook and it became even more limited with a 21-0 deficit.
Looked like Hue was trying to find ways to stretch the field but not put too much pressure on Boller/Palmer. Failed spectacularly.
Good games by Curry and Heyward-Bey. Van Dyke played well, too. Routt, not so much. Defense as a whole put together a solid effort given how long they were on the field…
We’ll learn a lot more about this team when we see how they play after the bye week. I definitely don’t think the season is over or that it’s time to blow up the team.
Injuries to Boss and McFadden are concerning, though.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:20 pm
Palmer didn’t look bad for someone who hasn’t played all year and has had no practice. He looked like someone whose timing was off and did not know the whole offense yet. He will be fine. I’m more worried about DMac.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:20 pm
Kyle Boller set the pace for the day. And it was a bad, bad day. Can’t say much for the play calling either. Live by the trick, die by the trick.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:21 pm
Here’s my fault percentage for this loss:
- QB play 75%
- Oline 15%
- Coaching 10%
When Palmer came in it wasn’t to have him win the game. At that point Hue knew the game was lost. Palmer came in to shake off some rust before the bye week, so that at the very least, he would have about 1 Q and a half of play time before having to play a whole game vs Denver.
Plus you gotta remember, no excuses for a horrible game like this, but we were without a starting QB, K, RB, CB, and you can even throw in MLB in there.
We got our a$$es handed to us on a platter, but we will get healthy again and get back on track. It just sucks that SD lost and we couldn’t take advantage of it.
Oh well, next time. GO RAIDERS!
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:21 pm
Palmer is by far the best QB we have on our roster.While he didn’t do well today,he has only been with the team for 3 practices.Besides,how many passes bounced of the receivers hands?If that were to happen to Campbell it is the rec. fault,yet when it happened to Palmer,they were his fault.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:21 pm
157.lefty12 Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:13 pm
140-You can fault the passes that are called.You can fault the wildcat on the 1 on 4th down with Bush.You can fault using a player who had never played 1(ONE) down in the NFL-regular or pre-season-on a motion,trick play.
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Yes, you can always question some plays.
I don’t question the wildcat on the 1. Hue was having little confience in Boller at the time and you can tell he just didn’t want him to mess it up. So he depended on the bread and butter run game and tried 4 times to run it there. I put that on Bush for not staying low and getting it in! Period. Bush has to get that ball in there if he’s being given 4 opportunities!!! Bush is failing in short yardage. For a big guy he goes in too high too often.
When you think about it the Pryor call was a very good call. Hue needed the diversion away from a QB sneak to keep the defense from crowding the line. And it worked!! If not for the penalty.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:22 pm
All I know, is that we better get a big lead on Tebow in our next game.
In his last 4 games, the Bronco’s have outscored their opponents 63-14 in the 4th quarter.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:22 pm
141.piratebeard Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:05 pm
Campbell would’ve done a lot better in this game but for the post season we needed a better QB. Not knowing how to slide? Not only that, knocking your own ball lose? Come on!
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You’re saying that Campbell knows how to slide?! LOL!
He looks real awkward to me.
Not that it matters because Palmer is the QB.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:23 pm
piratebeard, I didn’t read your post the right way.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:24 pm
There’s a pattern and his bluff got called this time….Period
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:24 pm
Carson Palmer WILL lead this team to the playoffs…….
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:24 pm
Raiders playoff hopes are in serious jeopardy after today’s game.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:24 pm
168.crazy_eyepatch Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:20 pm
Kyle Boller set the pace for the day. And it was a bad, bad day. Can’t say much for the play calling either. Live by the trick, die by the trick.
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October 23rd, 2011 at 5:25 pm
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:25 pm
JASON CAMPBELL VINDICATED!!!!
JC > Palmer boller pryor
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:25 pm
Palmer looked good throwing the ball to DHB.
Got 2 picks going D Moore’s way, and another going to Lou Murphy.
On that pick 6, did Moore run the right pattern? Those plays are usually slants. 2nd pick to him was clearly on the on D Moore.
Murphy doesn’t make much effort for balls these days. Didn’t like his effort on the deep ball, or on Palmer’s last pick.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:26 pm
163.I am Spartacus Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:17 pm
So Hue had no Plan B? No adjustments at Halftime? He needs to take most of the blame. Should not have wastes so many first string snaps on Palmer. I was hoping Palmer would at least look impressive with some throws. He was just plain bad.
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What adjustments can you make at halftime?? Please tell me when your QB is trash and the person you JUST brought in has limited knowledge of the offense and personnel??
And if you don’t think that pass Palmer needled to DHB was not impressive, go back to doing something else with your time.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:26 pm
Damn shame we ended up giving up more than our average on rushing defense.
That was not their fault today.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:26 pm
I was always more worried about this game than the Cleveland game.
KC has been hanging tough in every game and Cassell has been playing well.
Seebass being out affected things too.
The hell with it. It’s done.
Now lets get Palmer up to speed and the injured back on the field and beat the crap out of Denver in two weeks.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:27 pm
I don’t think we win this game with Campbell at QB.
Did you see the pass rush once DMac got hurt?
WRs were invisible outside of DHB.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:27 pm
So now Hue, in panic mode, throws Palmer into the game. Palmer stinks it up. Hue has two weeks to try and restore some kind of faith in his players that he has an inkling of what he is doing.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:27 pm
Some of you Hue apologists just don’ get it. Hue is at best an adequate OC. He is not HC m(erial. No one else in the league would have hired this guy. He would have gotten Rooney Rule interviews and nothing More.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:27 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:25 pm
JASON CAMPBELL VINDICATED!!!!
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Why don’t you two get a room.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:28 pm
Raiders need to start using Jones the same way they use McFadden. Need McFadden insurance.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:28 pm
JASON CAMPBELL VINDICATED!!!!
JC > Palmer boller pryor
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Surely such a wise man as Hue would offer Soup a contract after this season than right?
Uhhhh…probably not. Campbell will be battling it out with Matt Moore for the right to start 3 games before Luck is ready to go.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:28 pm
And if you don’t think that pass Palmer needled to DHB was not impressive
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Several darts.
How about the one that Murphy dropped at the end there?
Still, this offense needs DMac, or it’s just not the same.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:28 pm
TerrapinRaider Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:08 pm
The most you can blame Hue for is having Boller on the damn roster! But that sht Boller put on the field was just that …sht!
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True….not enough thought put into a backup….three picks is unacceptable
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:29 pm
Players weren’t focused at all, too many media around and in the locker room, circus like atmosphere on who was playing QB…
That ones on Hue.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:29 pm
Predictably here come the excuses for Carson. Face it at his best he is & always will be interception prone. He doesn’t have the stones to lead when the going gets rough. Instead he shows major cold swimming pool shrinkage & implodes.
Let’s hope he can somehow become a different guy then he has been for his entire career.
WE MISS YOU JC
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:29 pm
186.Twocents Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:27 pm
So now Hue, in panic mode, throws Palmer into the game. Palmer stinks it up. Hue has two weeks to try and restore some kind of faith in his players that he has an inkling of what he is doing.
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That’s not what happened MR/Twocents.
Hue accepted the responsiblity for his mistakes.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:29 pm
182….You run the ball and throw screens….Period….
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:29 pm
The game was lost due to the play of Boller and Hues play calling. That’s it. There aren’t anymore arguments on the matter an you can’t spin it any other way.
People who still say Palmer was gotten at too high of a price can eat their words now.
Dmac will be fine, he has 2 weeks to rehab.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:30 pm
TerrapinRaider Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:26 pm
And if you don’t think that pass Palmer needled to DHB was not impressive, go back to doing something else with your time.
Agreed…
That’s just a taste of what’s to come. More disappointed with the playcalling than Palmers play. We’ll be fine.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:31 pm
L.Murphy is dogging it man. He and Ford need to get thier sht together. DMoore hasn’t done anything in a few games now and seems to have hit a wall.
It crazy JHill ..haha …but DHB is CARRING the whole passing game!!!! lol. I’m sure that doesn’t sit well with some ppl in here. lol. He’s our best WR. LOL!
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:31 pm
Let’s hope he can somehow become a different guy then he has been for his entire career.
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Like we were hoping would happen with Jason Campbell??
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:33 pm
Post 199 – RIGHT ON
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:33 pm
DHB isn’t just our best WR, he is probably our best offensive player with D-Mac out.
I dogged the dude, but it is plain as day to see.
He gets chunks of yards, not like twinkle toes Bush and these other hacks we have at WR.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:33 pm
We better score often against Tebow and his donkeys. Ok, Tebow mechanics may be odd but whether we like it or not he surely is a Winner. Tim Tebow is a Winner and I’m a little concern about how our Raiders will play against them. We must Win against the Donkeys after the Bye. MUST WIN or we are in trouble.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:34 pm
DHB is playing far better than any of the other receivers, with Ford being a distant second. Teams are keying in on Denarius Moore who indeed seems to have hit a wall, and Hagan and Chaz haven’t seen the field enough to make an impact.
The Raiders might have something in Taiwan Jones, though. Need to get him involved more. Much more versatile player than Bush if McFadden is going to be out/less than 100%.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:34 pm
Terrapin-that is the point.Who committed that penalty-the guy who has never been in an NFL game before.It could be said that that play changed the game almost as much as the pick 6.As J Hill said-momenteum is a b!tch,and that play gave it to them.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:34 pm
He’s our best WR. LOL!
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It’s not even close right now.
And I’d have to say that Chaz is #2.
Hue wants to see D Moore, Ford, and Murphy though.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:35 pm
Bronco’s are 2-2 in starts with Tebow the last two years, and 5-16 otherwise.
Wish Orton could have waited another month to shat the bed.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:35 pm
Palmr will be an upgrade towards mediocrity. Campbell was an embarrassment.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:36 pm
Brandon Myers is pretty terrible.
Carlisle and Satele played their worst games of the season, as did Veldheer and Barnes (although I’m generally impressed with how Veldheer held up against Hali).
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:36 pm
193.PA-RAIDER Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:29 pm
Players weren’t focused at all, too many media around and in the locker room, circus like atmosphere on who was playing QB…
That ones on Hue.
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Absolutely.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:36 pm
Not only did Hue stink it up, but I was extremely upset when the camera panned to Pryor on the sideline after he f’d up his first NFL play and he was laughing.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:37 pm
what a shame.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:37 pm
I was worried about Moore hitting the preverbial “rookie wall” early in the season.
It was too much too soon. He went from hoping to get drafted in the mid-rounds, to hoping to secure some run in the games, to having SI articles written on him all in the matter of about 3 months.
May have shot his wad, so to speak, making highlight catches for Jerry Mac at training camp.
He will be awesome next year though. No sophmore slump like Jacoby.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:38 pm
So ends week 1 of Carson Palmer’s pre-season.
No biggie.
People in here freaking out.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:38 pm
DHB
Chaz
Ford
Moore
Moore is a rookie mayne. He needs to be phased in gradually, but Hue sure does like his toys.
Ford is a slot guy and a dynamic return guy.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:38 pm
Hue takes the blame here, but I still can’t get over how poorly Boller played.
That QB play is the type of play that sucks the life out of an entire team. We’ve seen it plenty of times with Jamarcus.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:39 pm
Outside of the losses against tough teams (Chargers, Lions, Bears, Packers)the Campbell injury will cost this team 2 more losses.
The 3 losses pinned on his injury and its aftermath will be to much for this team to overcome this year.
I now fully expect this team to finish 7-9 or 8-8.
It will take 3 to 4 games to get in rhythm with Palmer based on what I saw today.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:39 pm
Feeble excuse about the media…All we hear in here is how all the football experts and stations never give the Raiders there respect and are biased….Well we sure got prime time this week..!!!!!!…All fluff and zero substance…It’s the coaches job to make sure the team is focused…Hue needs an eye exam and glasses and another Irish coffee…We will see about his abilities from now on….Hue your on the clock…..!!!!!
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:39 pm
Don’t look now, but fresh off leading the NFL in penalties last year, Veldheer is second in the league in penalties again this year.
Not sure why he is such a sacred cow in here. Yes he blocks well, but his penalties are getting absurb.
Clean it up Jered!!!
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:39 pm
Carlisle and Satele played their worst games of the season,
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Didn’t we say that last week?
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:39 pm
Very strange game.
Our wide receivers seem to have no idea how to catch today. It really hurts when you lose your starting quarterback, your kicker, and your best player.
I don’t know why we didn’t just run the ball.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:39 pm
DRINK MUCH?
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194.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:29 pm
Predictably here come the excuses for Carson. Face it at his best he is & always will be interception prone. He doesn’t have the stones to lead when the going gets rough. Instead he shows major cold swimming pool shrinkage & implodes.
Let’s hope he can somehow become a different guy then he has been for his entire career.
WE MISS YOU JC
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:41 pm
This actually concerns me. Our WR’s are used to setting down in a zone and waiting for the ball. Palmer will Lead them and I’m not sure they know how to handle that
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221.Kirk Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:39 pm
Very strange game.
Our wide receivers seem to have no idea how to catch today. It really hurts when you lose your starting quarterback, your kicker, and your best player.
I don’t know why we didn’t just run the ball.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:42 pm
One other thing…
Denarius Moore has no business returning punts.
Ford or Tawain Jones should be returning punts.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:42 pm
Didn’t we say that last week?
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Satele played well last week considering he was injured. Certainly wasn’t his best game, though. Carlisle has looked pretty bad two consecutive weeks. Shame, considering he had a very strong start to the season.
Wiz II is playing like a vet out there, though.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:42 pm
CUT BOLLER TONITE! TELL HIM TO CLEAN OUT HIS LOCKER.
MY MY MY,MR DAVIS IS ROLLING OVER IN HIS GRAVE!!!
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:42 pm
100% Agree
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224.Kirk Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:42 pm
One other thing…
Denarius Moore has no business returning punts.
Ford or Tawain Jones should be returning punts.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:43 pm
“We miss you,Jason”.Not all of us.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:43 pm
Some people laugh at Jano’s pick, but he was missed today also. I know he would have been good for at least 9 points today. Seeing some points on the board could easily jumpstart an offense. All of our guys need to heal up soon.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:44 pm
TheLastWarrior Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:41 pm
This actually concerns me. Our WR’s are used to setting down in a zone and waiting for the ball. Palmer will Lead them and I’m not sure they know how to handle that.
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They dropped a lot of passes today, as if they were surprised that anyone passed the ball to them.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:44 pm
I am so pissed…we could be in 1st place at 5-2 but a bum named Boller decided to become the Chiefs secret weapon
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:45 pm
We DID try to run the ball, but Bush wasn’t doing squat 1st quarter, including not being able to ram it in from the 4 given two tries.
We should have continued what wasn’t working while the Chiefs built a lead?
At some point you have to throw it and see what you have with Boller and give Palmer some reps for the Broncos game.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:45 pm
I guess we’ll find out how good they really are with Carson in there
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230.Kirk Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:44 pm
TheLastWarrior Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:41 pm
This actually concerns me. Our WR’s are used to setting down in a zone and waiting for the ball. Palmer will Lead them and I’m not sure they know how to handle that.
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They dropped a lot of passes today, as if they were surprised that anyone passed the ball to them.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:45 pm
Palmer almost got his right knee blown out on hirst play. What’s the plan if he goes down for the season? Pryor? Don’t make me laugh! This is what happens when you hire an affirmative action sycophant as HC.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:45 pm
Not saying Carlisle played well, but on 2nd and 3rd down on the goalline stand, they pulled him for Heyer and ran right behind Heyer to no success.
On 4th down, Hue re-inserts Carlisle to be the lead pulling guard on Bush’s direct snap run.
Just a weird sequence.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:46 pm
Rave,
it’s not Boller’s fault that he’s not that good.
It’s no one’s fault that there was no timing between QBs and WRs. Like expecting them to click week 1 of pre-season. That’s how much practice they’ve had together.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:47 pm
I can accept the loss, it is a tough game but we looked so bad, so unable to respond to anything KC did that I have fallen back into the Raiders suck mode.
The thing that galls me is that we have been unable to dominate any team the way that KC dominated us.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:47 pm
I know timing is an issue right now, but it looked like Murphy barely made an attempt at finishing his route on Palmer’s INT aimed at him.
And that dart that bounced off Murphy ..com’on man! Dude is hearing too many footsteps out there. He’s got no desire, no fire in him. What happened?
And Ford ..com’on man!!! You forgot how to catch?? Even when he catches it he’s double catching sometimes.
What’s wrong with these playas? DHB is the only one. And like some said above, may even arguably be our 2nd best offensive playa right now.
(’twinkle toes’ Bush lol ..soo right)
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:48 pm
Lefty,
I don’t care for Hue’s gimmick plays at all. But I thought that was a good play he called for Pryor.
I can live with the rookie mistake of not being set for a full second.
Thought the ref was being kinda technical there as he did come to a stop.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:48 pm
Spartacus,
Palmer got to see live bullets. That prepared him more for the Broncos than one full week of practice would (REMEMBER teams only practice about 3 times a week. The other days are walk-throughs, travel days, and film reviews).
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:49 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:29 pm
Predictably here come the excuses for Carson. Face it at his best he is & always will be interception prone. He doesn’t have the stones to lead when the going gets rough. Instead he shows major cold swimming pool shrinkage & implodes.
Let’s hope he can somehow become a different guy then he has been for his entire career.
WE MISS YOU JC
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Mistic,
I am a JC fan and have nothing but disgust for the way many in Raider Nation have talked about him after the Carson signing.
However….
Your assertion that what Palmer did today in emergency duty translates into what he will do with two weeks of practice/playbook…let alone a month…is off base. Palmer will get it done. How much better will he be than JC….only time will tell…but he is a good QB man
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:49 pm
Any #2 worth his salts doesn’t fail as miserably as Boller did today.
No reason for him not to have SOME TYPE of rhythm with his WR’s.
He has been here for a year and a half!!!
He just sucks, and sucked back in college, even though he threw a ball 60 yards from his knees at his pro day, and Brian Billick got dupped into drafting him in the back end of the first round.
Kyle Boller sucks. Sorry Kyle, I will vote for your wife for Senate before I support you again starting for the Raiders.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:49 pm
Terrapin
Murphy looks done, huh! He was arguing for PI while the ball was still landing 2 feet away!! COmbined with his alligator-arms last week, and his overall history of drops, I don’t know why he’s in there.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:49 pm
218.autopalm77 Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:39 pm
Feeble excuse about the media…All we hear in here is how all the football experts and stations never give the Raiders there respect and are biased….Well we sure got prime time this week..!!!!!!…All fluff and zero substance…It’s the coaches job to make sure the team is focused…Hue needs an eye exam and glasses and another Irish coffee…We will see about his abilities from now on….Hue your on the clock…..!!!!!
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Hey Auto…Yep the media may be a feeble excuse but you can plainly see that our team is not use to the “media circus”. I always cared less about the Sports Networks giving the Silver and Black “Prime Time” because they jinx our team anyway.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:50 pm
Twocents Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:47 pm
I can accept the loss, it is a tough game but we looked so bad, so unable to respond to anything KC did that I have fallen back into the Raiders suck mode.
The thing that galls me is that we have been unable to dominate any team the way that KC dominated us.
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yep
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:50 pm
@ Alex7
Just frustration from seeing this guy all those years here in Baltimore and he has gotten worse.It’s pitiful
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:51 pm
When Palmer came in, it appeared that our wide receivers are not used to having the ball thrown to them. They didn’t finish their routes, and they seemed surprised when the ball came their way.
I guess they are used to Jason checking down.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:52 pm
Terripin,
DHB is starting to turn it around…he’s put a few good games together. The CBs are clearly scared of his deep capability and DHB is able to kill them short and medium range…..
Also, for everyone on here….Derious Moore is a 5th round pick….he’s going to struggle…he’s going to have growing pains…he’s going to disappear from games. Same with Ford. Elite players go in the 1st round….developmental players go in the mid rounds.
Opposing coaches get paid too….and clearly there is something that they are putting on tape that they are able to defense.
Give the kids time to develop
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:52 pm
How did the Rams #2 QB do today? 7 points.
Panthers #2 is Notre Dame bust.
How did Steelers backup QBs look early last year (Dennis Dixon and some other schmuck)?
Matt Moore in Miami? Mark Brunell if he played in NY?
Terrible! Just about every non-up-and-coming rookie #2 is going to look terrible. It’s ok.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:53 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:49 pm
Any #2 worth his salts doesn’t fail as miserably as Boller did today.
No reason for him not to have SOME TYPE of rhythm with his WR’s.
He has been here for a year and a half!!!
He just sucks, and sucked back in college, even though he threw a ball 60 yards from his knees at his pro day, and Brian Billick got dupped into drafting him in the back end of the first round.
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Sums up the current situation accurately
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:53 pm
He was arguing for PI while the ball was still landing 2 feet away!!
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I thought the same thing.
The art of drawing the PI actually involves going for the ball first, than complaining if you don’t catch it.
Refs aren’t going to throw the flag halfway through the route, unless you are a top-flight WR with the rep to draw it.
Last I checked, Lou Murphy is not a top-flight WR, thus did not draw the call.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:53 pm
Couple things today.
Not having Campbell hurts, everyone saw that today about how much rhythm an consistency with your receivers and your offensive matters in this league. As well as a steady arm like Campbells.
Not having Seabass hurts, just because it removes the threat of the Raiders having an automatic 3 whenever they cross the 50.
Not having McFadden was a deathblow, because it removes all balance from the offense making an erratic Boller even MORE erratic
And as much as you don’t want to believe this, not having Rolando McClain hurt because Daryl Blackstock was and is nowhere near capable to take control of a defense and make sure his players are lined up properly and minding their gaps. I think him and JC are the two players on this team that posters on this blog take the most for granted.
Beyond all that though is Hue Jackson, he baited the media all week and I think that power went to his head just a tinnnyyy bit. Also I believe losing his best offensive weapon caused him to get cute with playcalling, which only magnified the errors.
Credit to KC though at the goal line. They knew they weren’t going to get Bush up high so they dove at his legs. That’s on Bush to know when to step over those mother****ers and not bull**** with the dancing.
These are facts and I dare anyone to challenge them.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:53 pm
Raven,
he SHOULD be worse. Gets very few reps the last 2 months. I don’t expect him to be as sharp as when he was a starter.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:53 pm
232…You don’t play musical chairs with your offensive lineman at that sequence in a game…Carlilse, Heyer, Heyer, Carlisle….Ball should have never been handed off five yards in the backfired…Sneak it twice if necessary and use Bush as a battering RAM…
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:53 pm
My slight concern is for Pryor. He should have been able to get some meaningful snaps today
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:54 pm
After all the overreaction settles down and the dusk clears we’ll realize we only allowed 14 points on defense. We didn’t have our best player on offense, didn’t have McClain, and had one wacko quarterback and one with three days of practice. Seriously, calling for Hue’s head? Relax nation. The Queefs will get it big time in arrowhead.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:54 pm
Tricky,
we didn’t miss McClain AT ALL.
Chiefs scored half their points on INT returns. Run D was solid first 3 quarters while game mattered. Some DBs missed tackles (not used to playing zone yet, and facing crossing receivers).
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:55 pm
Oh yea and we were missng Seabass
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:55 pm
Also Murphy is like Todd Pinkston with a tighter skirt. No need for his soft ass play on this team.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:55 pm
No excuse but some of the drops have to do with lack of reps. The ball comes in at different speeds with all these QBs. Easy floaters with JC, bullets with Palmer and attached to the db with Boller.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:55 pm
What a sorry game and QBs play from the start to end was totally unacceptable. The play of the whole game was just plainly down right Redskins west again. Wasted a 2012 and 13 first round puck for a performance of this caliber. Forget the playoffs and finishing first in the division. Hue what the flip were you thinking today. It seems nobody put forth an effort on the field and this team deserved the loss. I hope this doesn’t cost Hue’s job! DCraiderfan is disappointed in this team and all the mistakes made! This team let a game getaway period!
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:56 pm
Pryor got one snap, on a trick play when he was lined up as a WR.
Not sure if that is a step in the right direction as far as being an NFL QB.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:56 pm
J Hill,you know Pryor had to be extra excited on his 1st play ever in the NFL.The mistake wasn’t surprising.I just think at that point early in the game it wasn’t the right time to call a play like that.If they wanted to sneak Pryor,just put him behind center and power forward-no trickery necessary.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:56 pm
After watching the game live, I am very worried. Boller is awful for someone who has been with Hue and the Playbook since the start of the season. Honestly do you guys think Palmer is going to light it up, after two weeks of practice, which by the way there is league mandatory four days off. I’m feeling like this year is a wash. It took JC a whole year to get comfortable with the offense. I really hope im wrong….But I think it will take him this year and next off season to really get it down.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:56 pm
You know when I realized that Hue was nothing but a politician, it was when he kept repeating the phrase “trust me”.
I swear the hairs on the back of my neck stood up.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:56 pm
MM34’s effort on the Arenas TD was beyond pitiful.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:57 pm
That ball bounced off Murphy so hard I thought is was DHB lol…. but soon realized its that damn #18! hahaha.
Oh well, its a loss – a bad one at that; but its OK. Give Palmer some time and we got our season back. We let this game get away which we should have won.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:57 pm
With Al gone, this team needs a disciplinarian HC. I’m sick of the stupid penalties. I’m sick of stupid players with low footbal IQs.
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:58 pm
I guess I have to realize when we lose it’s fire everybody and get people in here who can do it right, and when we win we’re the best team in the league. lol
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:59 pm
Goldie, I appreciate your response…That’s is the point I was making…It shouldn’t matter…Seven is one of my lucky numbers, maybe one of yours….:)
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:59 pm
From ESPN….
OAKLAND, Calif. — Raiders running back Darren McFadden suffered a sprained right foot in the first half of Oakland’s 28-0 loss to AFC West rival Kansas City on Sunday.
McFadden had two carries for 4 yards and caught one pass early before leaving the game Sunday. He returned to the sideline with his right foot taped.
Linebacker Rolando McClain appeared to re-injure his sprained left ankle in the second quarter. He moved in and out of the lineup in the second half.
The Raiders also lost safety Matt Giordano to a neck injury.
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:00 pm
yeah, i agree alex.and the loss of DMC made the uphill battle even worst! if we score that TD down there to make it 14-7,things may have turned out better.
i gotta go to work tonight and hear these damn Raven fans talk sh*t to me all nite
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:00 pm
Hopefully Boller has taken has last snap, in the NFL.
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:01 pm
How do you hurt your neck in warmup?
Looking at the cheerleaders?
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:01 pm
256.Raider 510 Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:54 pm
After all the overreaction settles down and the dusk clears we’ll realize we only allowed 14 points on defense. We didn’t have our best player on offense, didn’t have McClain, and had one wacko quarterback and one with three days of practice. Seriously, calling for Hue’s head? Relax nation. The Queefs will get it big time in arrowhead.
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Thanks. If Boller plays OK this would not even be an issue. We would’ve won cause the Chiefs are trash. Any objective observer could see that. They only scored on turnovers. And they had the ball plenty and our defense was on the field plenty due to a piss poor offense. Its all on Boller in my book. That was just awful even for a backup QB.
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:01 pm
I hope JC comes back fast……we need a competent backup
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:01 pm
I see people don’t want to deal with the fact that Palmer throws lots of picks. Far more than a top flight qb should, he has done it his entire career.
That’s fine.
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:03 pm
269….Not fired….Be accountable…..
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:04 pm
Boller was a combine phenom who fooled the NFL scouts. Hue or Al should have kept Edwards instead. No matter today, Tom Brady couldn’t have saved Oakland today. Two weeks to get it right Hue. Your seat just got a lot hotter.
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:04 pm
And let me make this clear also, the reason you saw a “pass rush” and Boller getting hit often was because he was not gettin rid of the ball or seeing the field.
They broke Boller down on NFLN on one of his runs on a 3rd down conversion attempt. He had Schilens right there for the 1st down, but hesitated, then felt a little pressure and tucked it put his head down and ran without hesitation. Thats the same sht you saw today. He tucks the ball, puts his HEAD DOWN! and runs …basically bails on the play.
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:05 pm
ray_d Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:56 pm
After watching the game live, I am very worried. Boller is awful for someone who has been with Hue and the Playbook since the start of the season. Honestly do you guys think Palmer is going to light it up, after two weeks of practice, which by the way there is league mandatory four days off. I’m feeling like this year is a wash. It took JC a whole year to get comfortable with the offense. I really hope im wrong….But I think it will take him this year and next off season to really get it down.
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good observations. I agree.
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:05 pm
[..] Carson Palmer [..] put in a ‘mop up my mess’ position [..] unable [..] tried to force his game [..] was not the right circumstance [..] Did Hue Jackson have a contingency plan or [..] Palmer just thrown to the dogs [..] easy read for KC defense [..] were ready to play [..] Boller set nasty tone [..] KC is still an ass wipe team no matter how you cut it [..] like the niner ass wipes [..]
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October 23rd, 2011 at 6:06 pm
I am so wrong for even thinking we had a chance with Boller. After 7 seasons and numerous starts, dude has never even sniffed a 300 yd game. Hue takes the cake for today’s loss though. We are a running team. We passed way too often and early in this game even behind Boller. Hue’s biggest weakness is not tailoring an offense around his QB’s limitations. He did it with Grad last year (calling bombs on a noodle armed QB) and did it with Boller today with a turn over machine in Boller.
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:06 pm
279….Much hotter….
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:07 pm
180,like JC against NE?Jason will be a good backup,move on
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:08 pm
“I hope this doesn’t cost HJ his job”.You guys crack me up.You give up every game if we don’t start out on fire.You want to cut players and coaches every time they aren’t perfect.If you criticize someone you are calling for their heads or hating them.Grow up-in real life you get criticized and it doesn’t mean you hate the person or want them banashed.The key is to use the criticism to get better.LOL
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:09 pm
When Hue came out 2nd half passing with Boller on consecutive plays I knew he was going to pull him on the next series. He was just seein if Boller could get it done. And those passes made it clear as day that he could not, and his team saw that he could not.
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:09 pm
People who assume Palmer will light it up are being overly optimistic. Wondering if trading for VY would have been the better move. He may have enhanced the running game with his ability as a runner. Think Chris Johnson is missing him?? And for all the people crying for better deep balls, VY led the league in that category last year. Hate to think what will happen to this team if Palmer craps out. From what I saw of him today, there’s a very real possibility we’re going to find out.
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:09 pm
Cold hard facts jc has thrown 15 ints once in his career.
Palmer has been over 15 picks 3 times with highs of 20 picks twice!
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:10 pm
Raiders lost to a QB who had a 38.7 passer rating.
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:11 pm
Right now, that team must be thanking the heavens Hue got Palmer cause there’s no way they want to go to battle with Boller after seeing that performance.
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:12 pm
Post 281 and ray_d – Good points, and I almost agree totally, but that’s completely unacceptable being we gave up two first rounders and Palmer is gonna cost us 12 mill next year. I’m not saying I think dude is gonna play lights out, but with that trade we also brought expectations. Whether realistic or not, they’re there, and in no way is a ‘wash’ year acceptable. Bottom line – this is still a business, and if this year is a wash, we should’ve just sent a much lesser pick elsewhere for McNabb or Vince Young. So light it up, no, Carson doesn’t have to do that, but win, yea, absolutely, we still have to win. I think Carson and the team will be fine, and of course they’ll have their bumps, but in no way can we accept a ‘wash’ year……
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:12 pm
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Hue: “Kyle Boller didn’t lose this game. Hue Jackson lost this game.”
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I’m glad to see Hue taking the blame for this loss.
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:13 pm
AIG, You are one of the guys that usually have the best observation. I too thought Boller was better than that, but that is where a head coach MUST design his gameplan criteria around who he has to start. No matter how you slice it, the Raiders are a ground and pound team. Even with Dmac out, we need to pound it. I am surprised at how bad boller sucked. Palmer was put into an ugly situation and he resulted ugly. But he will turn it around. We will be alright.
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:15 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:09 pm
Cold hard facts jc has thrown 15 ints once in his career.
Palmer has been over 15 picks 3 times with highs of 20 picks twice!
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JC has never come close to matching Palmer’s yards and TDs. JC is a safe QB, Palmer takes chances.
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:16 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:09 pm
People who assume Palmer will light it up are being overly optimistic. Wondering if trading for VY would have been the better move.
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Stop it. Vince Young? Carson Palmer is here now and he’s a good QB.
Now, how much better than JC? I am not completely sold he’s going to be worlds better than JC…but the fact remains, if you want to see THIS season be a success, the Raiders had no choice but to get Palmer to save THIS season.
Now whether its a good move for 2012-2015….no one knows until we see Palmer put it on tape
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:17 pm
We did run the ball, Bush had 100yds. This game was lost by halftime. Bollers performance was unacceptable. I will also says Hues call to use Pryor on the sneak had a huge swing to KC. That was the dumbest play call I have ever seen this year.
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:17 pm
The point is that Hue brought Boller with him, Hue felt that this man was worthy of being a #2. Boller sucked. Then Hue sends in Palmer, a man that he has sold our future for, a man that has a couple of days of pratice, and risked him in a lost cause.
I think Jackson is an arrogant ego-maniac. Get rid of him before it’s too late.
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:18 pm
Palmer will make the plays JC can’t or wont make because he is too cautious. Once Palmer gets used to the team, he will be fine. The WRs need to step it up. Ford and Moore have been disappointing. And, why can’t they get the ball to Boss more?
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:18 pm
289….Picks are part of the game….!!!!….Check the stats of the last 25 Hall of Fame quarterbacks…They’re not playing catch…You make it sound as if that’s all he does, yet you fail to mention his TD passes…Tell the whole story not just what fits your point of view or perspective….!!!!
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:19 pm
Morilla Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:17 pm
We did run the ball, Bush had 100yds. This game was lost by halftime. Bollers performance was unacceptable. I will also says Hues call to use Pryor on the sneak had a huge swing to KC. That was the dumbest play call I have ever seen this year.
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No it wasn’t. The dumbest play call was that 4th and goal run by Bush when the defense had already had a chance to see the play before a timeout. I don’t what Hue was thinking there. That was worse than the all safety defense.
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:20 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:09 pm
Cold hard facts jc has thrown 15 ints once in his career.
Palmer has been over 15 picks 3 times with highs of 20 picks twice!
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And how many times has JC thrown 25+ TDs. And how many times has he thrown 4,000 yards.
LMAO at you guys who are writing off Palmer after one half of football a few days after he joined the team, said he knew 10% of the playbook, took 10% of the snaps in practice and came into the game in a 21-point hole. Oh, and without McFadden to lean on.
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:21 pm
Yeah Bigs, that one was bad too.
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:21 pm
Rookie coach got his azz handed to him today.
Boller should retire. Spare his family the embarrassment.
Injuries are mounting on both sides of the ball. Bye week here at the perfect time.
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:22 pm
I like JC as he was a good manager of a game, my personal issue with him was he was captain checkdown.
I am ecstatic to have a gunslinger like Palmer.
How many interceptions did Farve have all those years he went to the playoffs??
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:22 pm
You know what’s funny is that we actually outgained the team we just lost to, 28-0. How often does that happen.
KC = Lucky, not impressive.
Hue will make them pay later this year.
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:23 pm
Bush has to make those plays. He looks soooooo slow hitting the hole sometimes. Its baffling. I know Carlise f-Ed up on that pull, but still there is no excuse for a 260lb back not to get into the end zone fron the 1 with a running start.
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:23 pm
All you need to know is, Palmer took his team to the playoffs, twice. The Bengals to boot.
Soup never has taken his team to the playoffs.
Hence, why Hue made the move, and rightfully so.
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:25 pm
What the hell happened to our Oline? no matter who was taking the snaps the chiefs D front four was making our Oline look second rate. This one is completely on the Oline. The INTs were caused by a mix of pressure, stupidity and bad luck….Our Oline looked like cheeeeze
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:25 pm
It’s amazing how the Raiders’ fortunes could change with Campbell getting hurt. True, Soup is a middle of the road journeyman, nothing great, but he was having a stellar year overachieving if you will to prove that he belongs in the league. In fact, given his situation in the last year of his contract, he might have been playing over his head, hoping to get his money. Life in football is just too cruel. Right at a time when it looked like the Raider Nation had buried the curse for good.
We could blame Mr. Davis for keeping Boller instead of Edwards, no that they’re any different or that it would matter much. But HueJax had a better feel with Boller since he had him in BMore. Obviously, the same situation with Palmer, HueJax brings him on an illusion because he knew him from way back.
But as I remember, the first choice to replace Soup was not Palmer, it was Garrard. If Garrard is healthy, we don’t have to deal with the Palmer headache, and believe it, it will be a major nightmare. Think back to the pick six by Flowers, that’s vintage Palmer, that’s what HueJax is bringing to the Raiders, that INT had nothing to do with rust or lack of playing time, that’s what Palmer brings to the table. Isn’t it something that the Bengals go from a sorry arse team to playing great with a rookie qb.
I’m on record on this one, HueJax acted out of desperation and every one will regret this one.
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:27 pm
It’s not on the Oline, that’s crazy. The 3 ints were by Boller in the first half. That lost this game. He is indecisive and held on to the ball wayyyy to long. JC even gets the ball out quicker than Boller.
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:28 pm
JFB….Thank you….!!!!
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:29 pm
Glad to see Hue step up and take the brunt for this loss.
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:30 pm
My only knock with Palmer was his post game interview. No need to tell the lady you “only knew 10 % of the playbook”. You dressed, you came in, you lost, along with the rest of the team. All that needed to be said was “we have to be better”. I’m gonna be his biggest fan now that he’s down with us, but that attitude has got to stop. He never held himself accountable in Cincy either and thats what made his relationships somewhat stale there with his team and the fans. No doubting his talent, but excuses are for the weak-minded. Lets get to work and make it happen CP!
Raiders will still win the division.
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:30 pm
If you want to vomit tomorrow, listen to all the people hyping Tim Tebow’s … I mean Denver’s win today.
Know this: at one point in the 3rd quarter, against the winless Dolphins, the Broncos had fewer passing yards than punts. Not fewer first downs. Not fewer completions. FEWER PASSING YARDS.
Tebow ended the game completing 48% of his passes and took 7 sacks. I guess he did what he needed to at the end, but he was very lucky to have any chance to do anything there at all. In overtime, he did nothing. Three and out. Then Miami fumbled on the ensuing posession. Three handoffs and a long FG and Denver walks off with the win.
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:33 pm
310….Your delusion of Gerald being the “preferred choice” is just that…He was going to be brought in for a try out like 4 other qb’s….Nice try, however, baseless and lame…..!!!!!!!!!__
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:33 pm
Hue,imo,should never say TRUST ME,again,learned that lesson in college,we got our ass kicked today,Hue cant think hes smarter than any other head coach,period Players need to perform,and they were junk
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:34 pm
It’s amazing how a teams fortunes could change with their starting QB getting hurt……..just ask the Colts…..
I for one am Damn glad we got a stud in the middle of the season, don’t see that happen very often.
Great job Hue!!!!
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:34 pm
I guess he did what he needed to at the end,
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Can’t be mad at him.
Just win baby, right?
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:39 pm
The reason Garrard was the 1st choice was he wouldn’t have cost the team anything,if in fact he was the 1st choice.Anyone who believes Garrard or Young would have been a better choice than Palmer is crazy.Neither of them could carry Palmers jock.And many of you call other teams fans stupid.
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:39 pm
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J Hill Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:34 pm
I guess he did what he needed to at the end,
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Can’t be mad at him.
Just win baby, right?
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sound of everyone soaking that one in
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:39 pm
317….I agree….Let’s reinvent the wheel…Bullies using a sucker punch…..
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:40 pm
I said we shouldnt sleep on KC…. This was thee worst peeformace i have seen in a while….
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:40 pm
Zopi, I’m afraid you’re right.
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:42 pm
No he isn’t.
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:43 pm
I flew up from san diego for this…..
The bye came at a good time.
We will get another shot at KC and we will win.
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:43 pm
The good news …DHB already blew past his season total last year.
Gotta find a silver lining somewhere. Just thinking of how bad Boller played. Dude might get kicked out of the NFL after that.
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:45 pm
Terrapin – Silver lining is Curry looks like he’ll be our starting OLB for us for the next 8 years at least….
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:45 pm
SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:30 pm
My only knock with Palmer was his post game interview. No need to tell the lady you “only knew 10 % of the playbook”. You dressed, you came in, you lost, along with the rest of the team. All that needed to be said was “we have to be better”. I’m gonna be his biggest fan now that he’s down with us, but that attitude has got to stop. He never held himself accountable in Cincy either and thats what made his relationships somewhat stale there with his team and the fans.
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In his first post game interview while he was still on the field, he said
“I have to play better. I’m extremely disappointed.”
So I think that he did take accountability for his part in the loss. At the same time he realizes the tremendous responsibility that he bears, and wants the public to know that he is taking his role and responsibility seriously.
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:46 pm
Oh Yeah. Curry is helluva good! That boy was ballin back there! Weak call on him with the roughness B.S. He hit the ground more than anything.
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:47 pm
I saw this live up close and in person. This loss was not on the oline. Boller was holding the ball much longer than campbell.
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:47 pm
“I thought we were going to get (David) Garrard, but we got Palmer, so, hey, man, can’t do nothing but be happy.” — Raiders defensive tackle Tommy Kelly on what he thought of the Palmer trade
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:47 pm
Hue has no clue.
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:48 pm
nonsense in here…palmer is way better than jacheckdown, young and about 90% of the qbs out there right now…give some time
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:49 pm
314,what Palmer said was the truth!So,I put the heat on Hue,is Pryor that BAD?He has to have a better grasp of the playbook than Palmer,right?Whatever,just pissed off
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:49 pm
Cut boller, he is worthless. Come in Palmer learn the playbook hopefully in two weeks you will have some of the playbook down
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:49 pm
Something everyone has ben overlooking because we have been winning,but our offense hasn’t look very good for the last 3-4 weeks.We have been winning due to Jano and STs-KO returns,fake punts,etc.Our offense needs to step it up and start putting points on the board.
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:49 pm
First of all Hue Jackson GAVE UP on Jason Campbell and used the injury as an opportunty to make the move.
If JC was the QB of the future, no way you make that move.
It is what it is. JC didn’t take the job…although he was good enough.
NOw, I am not a fan of renting quarterbacks for 3 to 5 years…as we will be with Carson….as I believe that philosophy led to the 8 year drought.
Hopefully Carson Palmer can stick with the Raiders for a good 8 years.
I can dream of having a franchise QB for a decade or so can’t I?
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:49 pm
Gotta find a silver lining somewhere.
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Curry, DVD, Ndukwe also had good games.
Huff and McClain make a couple of tackles on 3rd and long, and we don’t give up any pts.
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:49 pm
331.Thec07 Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:47 pm
I saw this live up close and in person. This loss was not on the oline. Boller was holding the ball much longer than campbell.
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Thats what I keep saying. It Boller not getting rid of the ball or seeing the field properly. You didn’t see Palmer getting whacked like that did ya?
Hue can aceept responsibilty but lets be real here. That was primarily on 1 playa named Kyle Boller. That was some of the worst QBing I have ever seen. Dude cannot throw.
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:50 pm
329…..In quotation marks….Thank you….
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:50 pm
Unfortnately Hue dosn’t hve a clue how to call a game, takin in acct the guy behind center.
Why would u ever call deep balls for boller? ever?
sadly he needs to look at wat harbaugh has done with Smith. Calls plays to stay within his limits.
Smith went from one of worst to 3rd best qb rating for starter after last week.
Hue calls by seat of pants, regardless of who’s qb.
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:51 pm
Palmers timing was off however, expect big things from him. Not sure any one could have done any better
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:51 pm
I hope Pryor is learning during this time. He is going to be the difference of a short 3 year run and a long-term stay at the top.
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:53 pm
God, I don’t want to put our hopes on Pryor.
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:54 pm
over/under on how many weeks befoe the “I take full responsibility for offense/defense/sp teams” bit wears thin?
kind of insulting, actually
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:54 pm
Hue could have done a much better job calling plays in certain situations. I agree that he gets too cute sometimes; it’s almost like he WANTS to go against the grain sometimes when the smart thing is to play it straight and just hammer the other guy.
That said, he was in a tough situation today and even said as much earlier in the week. He called Boller a backup, and nothing more, and tried like heck to get JC’s replacement ready in time to play today. An impossible task, but he tried.
Rolando trying to play on a bum ankle and DMac leaving the game early didn’t help at all.
I’m not thrilled with some of Hue’s playcalling and I’m amazed that Boller played as badly as he did, but sh*t happens, and it’s not like KC beat us at full strength.
Hopefully Hue can learn that you don’t have to be an “offensive genius” to win in this league, and the leaders of this team can get everyone to put this behind them and focus on the next game.
It was a sh*tshow, but it’s over. Next.
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:54 pm
WAS GREAT 2 MEET U THEC.ALWAYS A PLEASURE 2 MEET GREAT RAIDER FANS.
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:55 pm
Boller cost us this game. The defense came out fired up.
After Boller threw that second pick, the collective let down was obvious.
Satele and Carlisle are both garbage too by the way.
I’ve been saying that for 2 years now.
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:55 pm
Not saying he didn’t take full accountability. Just stating there was no need to give the media the information that he only knew “10 % of the plays” and only took “10 % of the snaps”. That was too much to say, and it throws your coach under the bus whether you want to or not. It didn’t need to be said. He was cool just saying “I have to play better.” No need to feed the media so they can run wild with some crazy story that I’m sure we’ll see like “Palmer only knew 10% of the plays, so why was he out there?” True, we might think that anyhow, but no need to invite that criticism and distraction.
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:56 pm
morilla Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:53 pm
God, I don’t want to put our hopes on Pryor.
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Pryor will get the Aaron Rogers treatment here. He’s going to get a good 4 years to just learn.
Hopefully he’s ready to take over if at that point father time takes a little off of Carson’s fastball
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:56 pm
Thec07 Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:51 pm
Palmers timing was off however, expect big things from him. Not sure any one could have done any better
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really?
no one could have done better??
you watch much football?
boller sucks. Palmer should never have been on the field.
M bet is 90% of the qb’s in the NFL could have done better, 70% of college qb’s.
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:57 pm
I’m extremely disappointed. Not so much that we lost, but getting shutout at home like that is embarrassing and humbling.
We couldn’t score three f’ing points just for prides sake?
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:58 pm
I don’t see how you can have 1 playa throw 3 picks leading to 21pts and NOT say he cost you the game. That sht was crazy.
Plus, players like Ford really need to step up. He’s dropping too many balls. Moore needs to get out of the rut and we need Reece back. He makes the offense much more dynamic.
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:00 pm
Blackstock played decent today but the Raiders got their ass kicked by a team that heard all about the Raiders this week. Gotta back it up, and that means the whole team.
Let’s get it straight. The Raven’s Defense, when they got a 7 point lead on the Raiders in the playoffs, where you crappin your pants. I was. Because they let you know every yard you take from us will be heart felt. The Raiders can’t live on talent alone. Desire to take what is you want is all about this game. Who in the hell is Battle from The KFC? We hear all about MCFadden to this point. Raiders do every other teams big name players and even small timers scare you to submission? That what the pundit think. When it come to the big fight, Raiders against everyone else, the pundits have been right.The Raiders have not been their and until they prove it, no respect given.
Hue Jackson is doing to much, Carson should have played to start the game, and all the other nonsense that spread with a lost should be stopped cold, starting with this locker room. When one side of the Raiders team struggles the other side must pick their game up to give the Raiders a chance to compete.
After what happened last week KFC Haley pulls some crap like that!!!
Raiders get that AFC Championship!!! The fights on.
By the way, I think Carson Palmer is a better QB than Campbell but I never thought Jason Cambell could not take the Raiders to the Superbowl. I am glad I don’t have to take back ill words back about Jason Campbell. In my previous post I stated when he comes back concerns for the QB position may surface, but he will support the decisions Hue jackson makes now for the team.
“The time is now”, Hue Jackson from the begining. He has my support !100%.
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:00 pm
Don’t know if Hue gave up on JC. Kinda doubt it. What he did was not give up on the season.
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:00 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:55 pm
Boller cost us this game. The defense came out fired up.
After Boller threw that second pick, the collective let down was obvious.
Satele and Carlisle are both garbage too by the way.
I’ve been saying that for 2 years now.
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Agreed. Hue needs to rearrange the line during this bye and come out screaming. Heyer to LG, Wiz to center, Barksdale to RG or something to that effect. Satele & Carlisle should be back-ups at best.
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:02 pm
“90% of the qbs in the NFL could have done better,70% of college qbs”-makes one wonder how much football you actually watch.
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:02 pm
NOT GETTING 4THE T.D WITH 4 TRY’S ..
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:02 pm
Lefty12, that is so true and it is the OL that is not getting it done.
It is time to stop kidding ourselves. There are serious problems with the OL and no easy fix.
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:04 pm
Raider Nation-Station
NEW!~ 10-23-11: IMPLOSION NOT THE END
It was bad but not unexpected…
http://www.raidernationstation.com/2011_regular_season
Poor Coaching catches up with Oakland…
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:05 pm
I blame this loss on Hue he did not have his team ready he was distracted all week by the media.
The play calling was awful you got a back up QB in there and even a guy who never had seen a NFL snap in a trick play COME ON MAN!
We should have seen Bush run the ball 45 times today and the only passes Boller should have throw were short screens and to the TE.
3 flea flickers with your backup QB what the hell man and then throwing Palmer in the fire in some hopes of a come back was stupid. Hue treated this like a preseason game!
I blame the coach for being distracted by the media!
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:06 pm
Boller is worthless. Hue coached like an idiot near the goal line. I’m not upset at Palmer. But, if McFadden isn’t ready after the bye week, the season is effing over.
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:07 pm
Name me one player who could have came in after a few days of pratice and won this game?
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:07 pm
Denarious Moore and Jacoby Ford….
Back to the lab
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:09 pm
Fk, we could of ran the fing ball every play and would of had a good chance of winning this game. C’MON Hue, do what you do man, put the players in position to play to there strengths. Right now without JC are only strength is in the run game. I want to see atleast 40 run plays against Denver.
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:09 pm
Three players that need to be working extra hard during the bye week damn the rules
Carson Palmer – because he’s new
Terrell Pryor – because he is the real backup now
Ford / Moore – because they have hit the wall
DHB – to help Carson Palmer
Hue Jackson – watch the tape and adjust your situational playcalling…figure out a way to get a yard
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:09 pm
350…After this performance the coach should be run over with the bus and then backed up on again..Your statement says it all…Why was he out there if in fact that was the case…???…Criticism is warranted based on distraction…As far as the media is concerned, it always has to be the paying customers that insist on that media scrutiny…Microscope or telescope….Pick your poison……
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:12 pm
Our WR’s are obviously not familiar with the ball hitting them in the hands or leading them while catching on the run. hey will need max reps to get in step with CP. Murphy looked slow and generally out of place. Don’t know if he’s going to make it back to where he was last year. For whatever reasons, Boss has not been involved in the passing game. That’s a big mistake. Lastly, The right side of our O-line, incl. center, looked terrible. Carlisle in particular was getting beat like a drum. Minimally, it’s time to replace him.
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:12 pm
RealtruRaider – Can’t run 40 run plays effectively unless the defense respects the fact they can be beat deep. Wouldn’t you stack 8 in the box and play the run more too if you played against a QB off the couch and a backup who hasn’t won a game in a couple years starting? Boller should’ve nailed some of those throws period. Yes, a lot of blame goes to Hue too, but everyone from coach to waterboy got their tail kicked today.
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:14 pm
342.RaiderGator Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:50 pm
Unfortnately Hue dosn’t hve a clue how to call a game, takin in acct the guy behind center.
Why would u ever call deep balls for boller? ever?
sadly he needs to look at wat harbaugh has done with Smith. Calls plays to stay within his limits.
Smith went from one of worst to 3rd best qb rating for starter after last week.
Hue calls by seat of pants, regardless of who’s qb.
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It was embarrassing beyond belief to sit and watch that crap!
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:15 pm
Right now the Raiders only have 1 wide receiver making plays….that’s DHB.
The rest of the receiving corps has struggled mightily the last few weeks
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:15 pm
Autopalm – like I keep saying; Hue is just as much at fault as whoever else who played poorly for us. All I’m saying, is we don’t need our leaders saying “I only took 10 % of the snaps” and “I only know 10 % of the plays”. All I’m saying is Carson has had that type of behavior in the past. Lets not act like this isn’t the same guy that quit on his team after getting paid. I don’t give a damn how bad it was there. He’s gotta be more of a stand-up dude.
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:16 pm
RaiderGator Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:56 pm
Thec07 Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:51 pm
Palmers timing was off however, expect big things from him. Not sure any one could have done any better
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really?
no one could have done better??
you watch much football?
boller sucks. Palmer should never have been on the field.
M bet is 90% of the qb’s in the NFL could have done better, 70% of college qb’s.
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Name me a QB on this team that could have performed better????
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:16 pm
Get Schilens back in there too. What was wrong with him anyway? Was he on the injury report again?
Louis Murphy had no business playing ahead of Schilens unless it was injury
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:17 pm
RaiderGator Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:56 pm
Thec07 Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:51 pm
Palmers timing was off however, expect big things from him. Not sure any one could have done any better
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really?
no one could have done better??
you watch much football?
boller sucks. Palmer should never have been on the field.
M bet is 90% of the qb’s in the NFL could have done better, 70% of college qb’s.
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Better yet name one one QB that could have came in here on 3 days of practice and done a better job than Palmer????
Do you watch much football????
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:18 pm
Blaming Hue is quite frankly reaching …we lost DMC very early and still tried to run it with Bush. He did a good job except on short distance situations. We cannot run every darn play. You simply cannot do that.
You QB must be able to pass the ball and keep them somewhat honest. Boller failed miserably! That’s all on him. Hue responsible for having him on the roster though. He’ll be downgraded to 3rd QB without a doubt.
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:18 pm
I’m reluctant to bring this up.
I hope I’m wrong about this.
I think Carson Palmer’s arm is shot.
Earlier in the week, Corkran mentioned that Palmer’s practice throws had zip and were tight spirals.
Later we heard that Palmer wouldn’t start because he wasn’t ready to make the ‘velocity’ throws.
I’m sure part of his poor performance today was due to rust, lack of timing and familiarity, dropsies…
But some of those passes Palmer threw didn’t appear to me to have much ooomph behind them.
Am I worrying over nothing ?
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:18 pm
We rushed for 155yds btw.
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:19 pm
I saw DMc jogging on the sideline. He was also standing up on the sideline the entire 2nd half. He will be ready in 2 weeks for Denver! I can accept a loss like this, rather than that loss in Buffalo. We had no chance today after Boller threw 3 INTs in the 1st half! Thank goodness San Diego lost. Hue needs to get Palmer ready in 2 weeks. That’s when the winners will be separated from the losers.
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:20 pm
Carson was getting throws to Wr’s….
Timing, timing, timing….Thats the main issue…
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:20 pm
heyThec,Kenny Stabler,not a PROBLEM,the SNAKE
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:20 pm
Don’t get it twisted ya’ll….I’m pulling for Carson. I just hate hearing excuses and disclaimers. They didn’t ask the guy – “Why did you play so poorly?” Yet and still, he chose to put it out there that “he only knew 10% of the plays”. That’s like being the cat who gets beat in a video game saying “ya’ll play it all the time, and I don’t.” Lol
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:21 pm
San Diego losing to the Jets was huge.
Probably the only good thing that happened today.
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:21 pm
Boller had the worse performance i have seen in a while…Palmer seem to have better chemistry than Boller…
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:21 pm
Boller let the steam out and this team isn’t quite reiliant enough yet to overcome Bollers meltdown. But they will be. They will very soon. I believe they would have hung in there for JC, and after CP learns the book, they’ll play for him too. And Pryor. But just not quite prime time ready bor Boller.
CODE BLACK WILL BE BACK, IN TWO WEEKS, WITH A VENGENCE
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:22 pm
378.RAIDERMAN99 Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:18 pm
I’m reluctant to bring this up.
I hope I’m wrong about this.
I think Carson Palmer’s arm is shot.
Earlier in the week, Corkran mentioned that Palmer’s practice throws had zip and were tight spirals.
Later we heard that Palmer wouldn’t start because he wasn’t ready to make the ‘velocity’ throws.
I’m sure part of his poor performance today was due to rust, lack of timing and familiarity, dropsies…
But some of those passes Palmer threw didn’t appear to me to have much ooomph behind them.
Am I worrying over nothing ?
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We’ll find out in 2 weeks vs. Denver. No need to worry. It’s Al Davis’ lack of judgement on QBs as to why we are in this position. That’s the fact. Hopefully, the charade of mediocre to God-awful QBs is now out of the Raider system!
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:22 pm
Like I told you guys dont sleep on KC, no way they are done…Most of you wanted to look past this game….
We should get healthy after the bye and put the smash on tebow….
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:23 pm
Thec – How was the crowd? Sounded live on tv until the 2nd half woes…
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:23 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:18 pm
I’m reluctant to bring this up.
I hope I’m wrong about this.
I think Carson Palmer’s arm is shot.
Earlier in the week, Corkran mentioned that Palmer’s practice throws had zip and were tight spirals.
Later we heard that Palmer wouldn’t start because he wasn’t ready to make the ‘velocity’ throws.
I’m sure part of his poor performance today was due to rust, lack of timing and familiarity, dropsies…
But some of those passes Palmer threw didn’t appear to me to have much ooomph behind them.
Am I worrying over nothing ?
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Palmer may have been tentative due to his ‘green’ factor with the Raider WRs’.
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:23 pm
Chaz didnt even suit up… We needed him to play today.
Every body except DHB had the dropsies….
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:25 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:18 pm
I’m reluctant to bring this up.
I hope I’m wrong about this.
I think Carson Palmer’s arm is shot.
Earlier in the week, Corkran mentioned that Palmer’s practice throws had zip and were tight spirals.
Later we heard that Palmer wouldn’t start because he wasn’t ready to make the ‘velocity’ throws.
I’m sure part of his poor performance today was due to rust, lack of timing and familiarity, dropsies…
But some of those passes Palmer threw didn’t appear to me to have much ooomph behind them.
Am I worrying over nothing ?
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Put simply, YES. You don’t throw a fastball unless you need a fastball. That pass to DHB over the center was perfect – zipped on a string, between 2 defenders, low in only a place DHB could get to it. On one of those INT’s he led the receiver and Murphy didn’t go for it. On another one of his INT’s D-WOW let it go into and out of his hands. The pass was perfect. The remaining INT was on CP. He didn’t read the coverage correctly and the receiver didn’t come back for it. It simply was great defense. For someone who has little practice, he was very acceptable.
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:25 pm
SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:23 pm
Thec – How was the crowd? Sounded live on tv until the 2nd half woes…
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The Raider NATION has heart Bruh…. We were making noise the whole game…
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:25 pm
Note to Hue:
Bullies are not cute, they walk up to you and punch you in the face. Stop all of the cute stuff. We know your smart you don’t have to prove it to the Nation. During the bye week be sure to mention to your WR’s (Murphy I mean you) that the old days of JC throwing to half a field are over. RUN YOUR ROUTES as if you expect the QB to look your way because Carson will.
Micheal Bush just had 99 yds. today….. and NO impact. Hey Mike your 240+ pounds start running the ball like you have a pair. Not once today did you attack the defense. You are starting to be the leading candidate for the Raiders getting back some of those draft picks they used. Satele… Gregg owned you today but don’t feel that bad he is a solid player and you are playing like your still injured. If you aren’t playing hurt then the bench is that a way. Cooper, someone should be stepping up and taking your job, but I guess no one is beating you in practice. Hopefully you will get it together. You’ve done some good things this season so just get your second wind for the playoff run this year.
DVD stop crying and start playing, the pick was a gift. You are a candidate for the Elvis Patterson “toast” nickname if you don’t step it up.
DHB I’m glad I was wrong about you. Keep doing what your doing and good things are coming your way, although I’d like to see you catch the ball with your hands a little more and you and the rest of your WR’s need to go after the jump or poorly thrown balls a lot more. (have we fired Sanjay Lal yet????)
Carson, don’t worry you didn’t stand a chance getting thrown in there like that. Hue made a mistake and should have settled on Boller to start and TP to back him up. I saw some good things from you that QB’s haven’t done in Oakland in a long time. It was a good trade to bring you in and by the end of the season no one will even remember this game.
Raider Nation use the bye week to do something nice with your family and forget about this game. I caught the Broncos and believe me good things are on the way.
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:25 pm
I hope Hue Jackson is as embarrassed today as we the fans are.
Hue needs to shut the f’k up and get back to basic football.
1. RUN THE F’N FOOTBALL
2. NO TURNOVERS
3. TACKLE
4. MOVE THE CHAINS
5. LIMIT PENALTIES
Get back to this and you might win a few more games this year.
1. Talking and hamming it up to the press
2. Flee-flickers
3. 50 yard incomplete passes
4. poor tackling
5. penalties on every other play
Keep doing this and you can hang it up.
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:26 pm
Silver and Black, no disrespect to you or your thoughts…Extremely frustrating fact is that the only other thing he could have done was not get up with a blown out knee after the FIRST PLAY….!!!!!
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:27 pm
Hey Cork, post the presser.
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:27 pm
Thec – Good to hear….it didn’t sound as live late, but I’m guessing thats obvious, but glad to hear cats was bringing it the whole game. The D definitely never gave up. Hell, they kept committing penalties, Lol, but it was good to see some emotion still coming from our side regardless if it was positive or negative. Were the upper decks full?
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:28 pm
I just hope that if JC comes back before the end of the season, he accepts the role of BU-QB. We could then release Boller once & for all. In this league, it’s rare a QB makes it through the season un-nicked and able to play 100% of the time. Back-ups are important.
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:28 pm
But some of those passes Palmer threw didn’t appear to me to have much ooomph behind them.
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CARSON’S ball was getting to the WR’s with enough zip…
His velocity is not the problem, he needs to get his game legs under him, and the playbook…
After that we should be fine…
BTW, Terrelle Pryor is going to be a good QB….
DHB was the only WR that balled….
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:29 pm
Any offensive lineman should have immediately pounced on hali for his attempt to injure Carson on that play…Fine, suspension, hell or high water…..!!!!!
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:29 pm
Autopalm – now that was some scary ish…..Didn’t like it at all how Hali or whoever that was on that play seemed like they were crawling into CP’s knees with nothing but bad intentions on that play. Was beyond glad to see him get up after that.
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:29 pm
Kyle Bollers 2nd INT was on #17
Carson Palmers 1st INT was on #17
Carson Palmers 2nd INT was on #17
Moore realy needs to step up.
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:30 pm
Thec07 Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:25 pm
SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:23 pm
Thec – How was the crowd? Sounded live on tv until the 2nd half woes…
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The Raider NATION has heart Bruh…. We were making noise the whole game…
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Agreed. Brining it even up until we were down 21-0. Sh1t, this one hurts!
Haven’t read all the comments but anyone touch on the fact that neither QB received all the snaps with the 1st team this week in practice?
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:31 pm
WhitlockJason Jason Whitlock
Also, Adam Schefter reporting Hue Jackson n talks w/Latin Kings at Alcatraz to acquire OJ Simpson for 3 packs of smokes and 2 Honey Buns.
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:32 pm
The bye comes at a good time…No excuses for this A$$ kicking…Good time for us to get healthy as we have a lot of key injuries…3 team race for AFC west Supremacy, and as I told you guys, don’t sleep on KC….
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:32 pm
Don’t want to sound like the ghost of Al Davis, but this needs to be said…
Too much blitzing today.
Plus, if you’re going to continually send the hounds, it’s ok to vary how they’re coming. Those wide blitzes coming from the side are getting a little predictable and easy to read. Might want to consider sending some heat right up the gut for a change.
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:33 pm
SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:29 pm
Autopalm – now that was some scary ish…..Didn’t like it at all how Hali or whoever that was on that play seemed like they were crawling into CP’s knees with nothing but bad intentions on that play. Was beyond glad to see him get up after that.
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yup, it was Hali, and it was a total copy of Kyle Von Oehlehofer’s hit in the playoffs.. it was so obvious that it was intended cruelty, Hali should have been ejected!
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:35 pm
TSR-no QB ever receives all the snaps in practice.The BUs have to receive some.
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:35 pm
Carson Palmer has zip when he needs it, and has touch when he needs it…. Don’t worry about his arm….
His issue is playbook, and timing…
both will be fixed before the denver game…
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:35 pm
ADAM SCHEFTER IS ALSO REPORTING THAT KEN STABLER WILL START 4 OAKLAND AGAINST DENVER..WHAT A JOKE..HIM AND HIS NETWORK.
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:35 pm
Raiderman99…
I dont think we blitzed too much, I think we blitzed at the wrong time, did it poorly and in the wrong packages..
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:36 pm
Beating Denver will not be a lock. Tebow may look ugly playing the position, but he’s a winner.
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:37 pm
405….Hilarious……!!!!
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:37 pm
Lefty12 Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:35 pm
TSR-no QB ever receives all the snaps in practice.The BUs have to receive some.
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Yes, that’s true Left, but a good majority, wouldn’t you agree? I don’t think backups and starters go 50-50 each week. In fact, I’m pretty sure they don’t because I remember the comments about Boller receiving only 5% of the snaps leading up to the Browns game, where Jason got injured.
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:37 pm
This was a bad showing however, the team will bounce back…
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:38 pm
Thec07 Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:35 pm
Carson Palmer has zip when he needs it, and has touch when he needs it…. Don’t worry about his arm….
His issue is playbook, and timing…
both will be fixed before the denver game…
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I totally agree, no reason to worry! KC’s D just played better to day..
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:38 pm
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:35 pm
ADAM SCHEFTER IS ALSO REPORTING THAT KEN STABLER WILL START 4 OAKLAND AGAINST DENVER..WHAT A JOKE..HIM AND HIS NETWORK.
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Raiders deserve every bit of it for the sh!t they pulled this week.
I hope the jokes continue. I hope they rub Hue Jackson’s nose in the big pile he left on the field today.
He has to know Boller sucks. He has to have a better gameplan in place.
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:38 pm
hues made our o formidable and our d respectable against the run and you want to bash him? you guys are a bunch of bit#ches
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:38 pm
LMN – yeah, it looked very deliberate. Makes sense though. If I was chasing the competition in my division and I knew my competitor’s knee has some question marks from the past, I’d take a shot too. Dirty mickeyfickeys! Plus Haley was a b!tch after the game and tried to walk right past Hue during the shake. I hope we crush them in Arrowhead!
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:39 pm
I disagree LMN. Thought there was too much blitzing. Not very well disguised. Mostly ineffective and KC exploited the lack of personnel downfield for extra yardage after short completions. Poor tackling also exacerbated the problem.
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:40 pm
In either case, Palmer’s clearly not ready and Boller…I’m not sure if also had readiness issues or just sucks.
And I don’t know that Hue could have handled it any differently. Sh1tty situation.
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:40 pm
408….Ejected….Hell…..He should have been pummeled….PERIOD…..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:41 pm
TSR-Boller got most of the snaps in practice last week.
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:41 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:40 pm
In either case, Palmer’s clearly not ready and Boller…I’m not sure if also had readiness issues or just sucks.
And I don’t know that Hue could have handled it any differently. Sh1tty situation.
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It is tough however, It will get fixed before we play denver, guaranteed….
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:41 pm
I HEAR U WASBANNED,BEEN GOING ON 4 MANY YEARS THOUGH.ITS CALLED GAMESMANSHIP..
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:42 pm
One other thing. Haley snubbed Hue after the game.
That SOB has an ass whuppin coming his way.
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:42 pm
AFC west is going to be a ring circus…
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:43 pm
Dirt Lot, good meeting you today Bro…
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:43 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 5:28 pm
JASON CAMPBELL VINDICATED!!!!
JC > Palmer boller pryor
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Stupid comment. JC is not better than Palmer; and you certainly can’t use today as an example.
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:43 pm
Rman99 – was just saying that…..Hue had a couple words for him, and Haley’s punk behind didn’t even want to make eye contact.
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:44 pm
Aaaaaaarrrrggggghhhhhhhh.
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:44 pm
415.Try Some Reality Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:37 pm
Lefty12 Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:35 pm
TSR-no QB ever receives all the snaps in practice.The BUs have to receive some.
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Yes, that’s true Left, but a good majority, wouldn’t you agree? I don’t think backups and starters go 50-50 each week. In fact, I’m pretty sure they don’t because I remember the comments about Boller receiving only 5% of the snaps leading up to the Browns game, where Jason got injured.
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Hue said in his presser Boller got 80 percent of the snaps in practice.
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:44 pm
Thec07 Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:41 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:40 pm
In either case, Palmer’s clearly not ready and Boller…I’m not sure if also had readiness issues or just sucks.
And I don’t know that Hue could have handled it any differently. Sh1tty situation.
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It is tough however, It will get fixed before we play denver, guaranteed….
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I agree Thec. Not concerned for the rest of the season. Just blows chunks that I just witnessed the Raiders get their a$$es handed to them.
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:45 pm
6 ints <—— thats your ball game….
The D has been balling, the O has been stalling…
Get healthy, get some chemistry and timing going we are going to be okay…
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:45 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:39 pm
I disagree LMN. Thought there was too much blitzing. Not very well disguised. Mostly ineffective and KC exploited the lack of personnel downfield for extra yardage after short completions. Poor tackling also exacerbated the problem.
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as I said, I agree with your points, just not that we blitzed too much.
they werent disguised as you sai, and used at the wrong moments! and used the wrong packages..
maybe a bit too much, but not overly too much!
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:45 pm
We will crush them in Arrowhead. Guys the Chiefs were really not good. Our QB was really just that bad. They scored 21pts on turnovers. Com’on man.
All we needed was a QB to “manage the game” and not turn it over. Boller was neither. He will forever be demised by the Raider fan base after this performance. It was epic bad @ home at that. Not even on the road. Fans were actually cheerin for you.
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:46 pm
Hue said in his presser Boller got 80 percent of the snaps in practice.
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Thanks Realtruraider. Missed this tidbit. Well, I would think that would be enough, but I’m no QB. I thought it was more of a 50-50.
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:46 pm
Just blows chunks that I just witnessed the Raiders get their a$$es handed to them.
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Agreed Brother…Agreed…
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:47 pm
Tamba Hali is a dirty fcker who I hope gets his pounded into the turf the next time he tries to take a shot at Palmer’s knee.
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:48 pm
Anyway you guys take care…Good learning experience on our way to the tournament….
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:48 pm
Maybe I just see things differently but I don’t even believe the Raiders got their arses handed to them. 1 man did. But if you look at the score you would assume that to be the case, I understand.
The Raiders fell victim to the situation and 1 piss poor QB that will be cut after this year.
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:49 pm
This organization is now a bigger laughing stock than it ever was. At least Al had a long track record of accomplishment. Hue has done diddly squat and carries on like he’s won multiple Superbowls.
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:49 pm
Where in the world was Taiwan Jones imprisoned today? Good god did Bush look slow out there. I’m tired of the lazy way he hits the hole. Keep Bush’s role the same, but Taiwan should take over Mcfaddens role when he can’t go… Worst game I have seen us play since 2006…along with some of the worst offensive playcallnf inhale seen in YEARS!
WTF is the obsession with the flea flicker, invented in 1969? Hue got outcoached today BIGTIME! And our players played like they have never seen a football before, every phase was bad, from ATROCIOUS TACKLING, to disgusting play calls. Probably won’t see a game this bad again for years. Those guys embarassed themselves today To new levels. The film room is gona be one hellova place to be a fly on the wall. WOW what a step backward.
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:50 pm
Forget this loss, gents. I have a feeling we’ll be smoking coming out of the bye….if DMAC’s healthy, that is. Our running game just doesn’t look the same without him. If you look at the stat line, sure, Bush seemed to do a good job. But it’s just worlds away from having DMAC out there. He’s explosive and you can see that teams have to account for him, making opportunities for our passing game.
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:50 pm
Perhaps Hue was asking if the directive to go at Carson’s legs came, from him….Would be nice to know if in fact had it in himself to be as pissed as anyone should have….What was toddy going to say….???
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:50 pm
Old football adage states that you’re never as good as you look after a win or as bad as you appear after a loss.
Raids looked like crap today. Flat. Unprepared. Hurting.
But there were some bright spots.
Thought Curry played well. DVD is growing. Run defense was spotty, but overall showed promise. Plenty of tackles for losses or no gain. Screens, delays and wide runs were very well contained.
Best to put this one behind us and not dwell too much on the negative.
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:50 pm
291.TerrapinRaider Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:11 pm
Right now, that team must be thanking the heavens Hue got Palmer cause there’s no way they want to go to battle with Boller after seeing that performance.
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So are die-hard Raider fans like me! It softens the blow of the game a little.
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:50 pm
Its hard as hell to win when damn near all of your top line players at every position goes down: JC, DMC, McClain, Seabass, Boss, Reece …thats a lot of weaponry on the shelf.
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:50 pm
inonewordathome Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:38 pm
hues made our o formidable and our d respectable against the run and you want to bash him? you guys are a bunch of bit#ches
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I am bashing him because I want him to learn from what happened today. I want him to be motivated and get back to basics.
Stop the games with the media, stop the bullsh!t cutesy plays.
Get back to Raiders football.
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:54 pm
Hue=Josh McDaniels
God I hope I’m wrong though. Our team is a laughing stock now and most likely will remain that way until they play again two weeks from now. That’s a long ways away.
The good thing is if they beat the Broncos and Chargers in primetime after that, we may be having last laugh…
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:54 pm
Well, I’m out. Have a good night Left, Thec, and the rest of my Nation brothers.
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:55 pm
This was a learning experience for rookie car salesman – don’t put yourself in that position!! We all knew we had no depth, and this is the result.
This answers SOup questions. We are terrible without him under center.
Boller is a nice guy but no where near a good QB. I had flashes of McClown out there.
Just how bad is Trent Edwards anyway if he couldn’t make backup on this team?
CP is the real deal, give him a couple of weeks to get into it and he’s gonna rock!
I lay this at Huejack City’s feet. A couple of injuries shouldn’t have put us in this spot. We so thin at several roster spots. How many CB have we run through?
Bush is the freakin’ man but he can’t do it all himself.
Good defense if we didn’t throw six interceptions, score would have been much much different!
Now I have to go pay all those sodas I bet!
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:56 pm
444….Good post…Always trying to use the speed literally instead of straight ahead……
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:56 pm
Hue’s record in his first 7 games is the best of any Raiders head coach since 1998, and people want to fire him because our backup QB didn’t play like Drew Brees.
Weirdos.
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:58 pm
POST-446,THOUGHT CROSSED MY MIND ALSO..
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:58 pm
Later TSR….Go easy…
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:58 pm
Raiderbuck,
so to summarize your post…
It’s Hue’s fault…that the team’s roster is thin.
Duuuuuuuuumb.
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:59 pm
Alex7, you are right. Missing starting QB (new one not ready to take over until Denver), best running back and best kicker in league out. I just blame Hue for the goal line calls.
October 23rd, 2011 at 8:02 pm
Somebody tried to get Hue to talk about what happened between him and Haley.
Wouldn’t get into it at all, even when pressed to talk about it. Only thing he said was, “It’s ok. We’ll see them again down the road.”
I have a feeling the next meeting is going to be a little different. I just hope Big Rich can keep from getting tossed out.
October 23rd, 2011 at 8:03 pm
One additional comment about MBush.
Not scoring on that 4th down really took the wind out of the Raid’s sails.
Bush is a big dude, but certainly not a power runner at the LOS. He’s way more forceful and bruising once he hits the second level.
That said, I’m not going to bash him for not being a bruising power back in tight. However, it needs to be said that he doesn’t have a nose for the end zone.
Sure looked to me that he could have taken a step to the right and scored relatively easily on the failed 4th down.
Some guys have a knack for getting 6. I don’t think Bush is one of them.
October 23rd, 2011 at 8:05 pm
I don’t see a rebound against Denver. Hue’s bag of tricks is empty. Counting on DMAC to stay healthy all year is a fool’s errand. DHB is our best receiver and I doubt he would start on any other team.
October 23rd, 2011 at 8:06 pm
62-7 Saints. Can the Colts really be that bad???
October 23rd, 2011 at 8:08 pm
The whole offense looked way out of sync today. This was some what expected without JC, but not to that extent.
DHB looks like are only WR out there and that has ben the case these last few games. I really hope these guys can get it together cause I don’t want to see T.O out there.
DHBEAST has to be in the lead for MUP now, I am glad I have him as my MUP. Always knew he had it in him.
Corky hates what DHB is doing, its making him look like a fool, today in his chat he still said DHB is the 6th best WR on the team LMFAO dude is the only WR on the team
October 23rd, 2011 at 8:18 pm
You knew when all the talk was about Carson all week there was a huge possibility of a letdown, especially with K.C. coming in off a bye.
Hue’s been a little cocky so this loss, with 2 weeks to let it stew should be a good thing and I expect a “w” against the donkey’s.
October 23rd, 2011 at 8:38 pm
Don’t sell the chefs short.
I was wrong thinking they could be had easyly only to have the Raiders lay a major egg. The chefs played tough in San Diego last time, and I’ll bet they’ll play them tight again in Arrowhead. They didn’t win the AFC West last season for nothing. The chefs coaches did a helluva job preparing for the Raiders, this was not a fluke. And the Raiders coaches did a piss poor job preparing for this one.
Bottom line with Palmer, like I said before, he has always had the hype, since he was in high school in the OC. It took him 3 years to do anything at SC, and his Heisman year was all about Norm Chow. Palmer has all the tools to be a great QB, eight years later people are still waiting. Just as he will throw a 25 yard bullet in one play to wow you, he’ll throw the pick six in the next one to frustrate you.
HueJax made a desperate move and paid dearly for it, and will continue to pay because Palmer is not that much better than Campbell or Boller, but at least with Soup the Raiders had some one who was playing his heart out, something Palmer will never do. Just watch.
HueJax brings a lot of good, but with the Palmer trade he was simply way over his head, got desperate and over reacted, and I’m afraid, for the good of the Nation, that he has made a costly mistake.
Start the countdown from today, what’s the over under before the Nation begins treating Palmer like they did with Boller today, and start chanting Soup’s name.
October 23rd, 2011 at 8:44 pm
My life is a very busy, stressful one. Raiders have been a fun diversion.
I’m still “in”, but man, what a depressing afternoon.
It’s on me. I need to get a life.
October 23rd, 2011 at 9:28 pm
I Am Spartacus Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:29 pm
What a disgrace. Nice game plan Hue. I cannot stand this. He looks like a complete buffoon standing on the sideline.
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You can step off the bandwagon anytime, partner. The Bus will roll on with or without you.
RAIDER NATION!
October 23rd, 2011 at 9:55 pm
# Thec07 Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:35 pm
Carson Palmer has zip when he needs it, and has touch when he needs it…. Don’t worry about his arm….
His issue is playbook, and timing…
both will be fixed before the denver game…
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Dude, I am so sorry you had to go out there and watch this abomination! One of the worst games I have seen us play in 5 years. Reminds me of the game we played when we went into St. Louis 4 or 5-0 and got our asses handed to us by a guy that the Rams fans didn’t even know the name of at the time..Mark Bulger..a humbling experience..we still went to the SB that year..but games like this happen..
I just cant get over some of the terrible playcalling and the non-use of Taiwan..
Also, I never want to see Denarious return another punt..dude just doesn’t have the ‘it’ factor for returning punts..
October 23rd, 2011 at 10:04 pm
Don’t sell the chefs short.
I was wrong thinking they could be had easyly only to have the Raiders lay a major egg. The chefs played tough in San Diego last time, and I’ll bet they’ll play them tight again in Arrowhead. They didn’t win the AFC West last season for nothing. The chefs coaches did a helluva job preparing for the Raiders, this was not a fluke. And the Raiders coaches did a piss poor job preparing for this one.
Bottom line with Palmer, like I said before, he has always had the hype, since he was in high school in the OC. It took him 3 years to do anything at SC, and his Heisman year was all about Norm Chow. Palmer has all the tools to be a great QB, eight years later people are still waiting. Just as he will throw a 25 yard bullet in one play to wow you, he’ll throw the pick six in the next one to frustrate you.
HueJax made a desperate move and paid dearly for it, and will continue to pay because Palmer is not that much better than Campbell or Boller, but at least with Soup the Raiders had some one who was playing his heart out, something Palmer will never do. Just watch.
HueJax brings a lot of good, but with the Palmer trade he was simply way over his head, got desperate and over reacted, and I’m afraid, for the good of the Nation, that he has made a costly mistake.
Start the countdown from today, what’s the over under before the Nation begins treating Palmer like they did with Boller today, and start chanting Soup’s name.
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all this after one game….and four days of practice…no OTA’s , off season, and supposed retirement…and a half game lead over the Chiefs with hot garbage Tim Tebow coming.
Got cheese with that whine?
October 24th, 2011 at 10:49 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:57 pm
We lost our starting QB and star RB. Not a surprise that we lost. But, I blame Hue for the way we lost. If he would have coached smarter, the game would have been close and the Raider still could have won it. The Chiefs are not a good team. They were lucky to have played the Raiders when they did.
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Yah, yah, yah. Typical pissed off fan excuses, and you’re not the only one embarrassing yourself by using this one. Need I remind you that the Chiefs are without their #1 TE (Moeaki), their #1 Safety (Eric Berry), their #1 RB (a monster runner by the name of Jamaal Charles), AND the Chifs QB had a smashing QB rating of something like 38? I would say it’s the other way around — the Raiders were lucky to have played the Chiefs when they did, or it could have been a lot worse for the silver and black.
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