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Three players worked out by Raiders identified; two are RBs

The three players who worked out for the Raiders on Wednesday, and coach Hue Jackson refused to identify, are: running backs Stafon Johnson and Lonyae Miller and veteran defensive back Brian Williams.

Johnson spent time with the Tennessee Titans, but he has not appeared in any regular-season games. Miller appeared in four games for the Dallas Cowboys in 2010, but he didn’t touch the ball on offense.

Both weigh in excess of 220 pounds and play a position at which the Raiders are well stocked. Therefore, their passing through Alameda for a workout portends Jackson being concerned about lead running back Darren McFadden’s health, at least in the short term.

McFadden suffered a mid-foot sprain against the Kansas City Chiefs last Sunday and exited the game after only two carries. He was held out of practice Tuesday and Wednesday. Tests for structural damage returned negative.

The Raiders aren’t required to provide an update on McFadden’s status until Wednesday, four days before their next game, against the Denver Broncos. Their next practice isn’t until Monday.

It’s possible that Jackson is just doing his due diligence and seeing what is out there in terms of free-agent running backs in case McFadden’s injury doesn’t heal as well as hoped for or he aggravates the injury at some point between now and the end of the season.

Michael Bush and rookie Taiwan Jones picked up the slack during McFadden’s absence against the Chiefs. They are expected to do likewise if McFadden misses anymore time.

Williams, 32, is a 10-year veteran who has played for the Minnesota Vikings, Jacksonville Jaguars, Atlanta Falcons and, most recently, the New York Giants.

He has started 99 regular-season games and intercepted 19 passes.

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  • ghostraiders

    Raven… I remember that game!! I was 12 yrs old… I thought it was over! I was so happy that Brian sipe threw that into man.. definitely one of the happiest days of my life… I remember Brian sipe crying on the sideline. .. it was a great defensive game!”

  • Raider-in-PA

    … the cardiac kids had cardiac arrest!

  • The Big Banana

    I have no interest in copying your style. It’s called satire, bruh. Lighten up, misty eyes.

    All JC did was not fuk up the offense (outside of missing on all those deep throws). It’s all Hue could expect of him. You know it, I know it, the entire Nation knows. Give it up, already. Your tune is played out.

  • Try Some Reality

    Why do you guys even bother with Mistic? As Left said in here the other day, homie needs help.

  • Sullivan44

    And this is the truth. I don’t mean to be disrespectful, but medically speaking, Al’s reclusive style and the grudges he carried couldn’t have helped him with his fibrillation issues, either. Any kind of stress would only further worsen circulation problems.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    # The Big Banana Says:
    October 28th, 2011 at 1:01 pm

    I have no interest in copying your style. It’s called satire, bruh. Lighten up, misty eyes.

    All JC did was not fuk up the offense (outside of missing on all those deep throws). It’s all Hue could expect of him. You know it, I know it, the entire Nation knows. Give it up, already. Your tune is played out.
    =====================

    trashing a guy that won games and helped turn around the franchise is weak. but your hate for him cant erase the record book bra. 12-7 as a starter here.

    You said he couldnt win and he pounded you week after week.

    Now there is a new guy, not sure why you are so obsessed with jc

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    Actually i was talking about palmer, i guess i ruffled some feathers because some here have a hard on for him.

    I can see, anytime I say palmer, you will say JC.

    laughable

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    The Big Banana Says:
    October 28th, 2011 at 1:01 pm

    I have no interest in copying your style. It’s called satire, bruh. Lighten up, misty eyes.

    All JC did was not fuk up the offense
    ==================

    this is all palmer needs to do as well, or we will be hearing the draft RGIII movement after next year

  • LA to TheBay

    Mistic:

    Carson Palmer:

    46-51 W-L, 2032/3238 62.8%, 22,810 yards, 154-103 TD-INT, 86.3 QB Rate, sacked 160 times, 17 Game-winning drives. 2 Pro Bowls, 2 playoff appearances.

    Jason Campbell:

    31-39 W-L, 1296/2131 60.8%, 14,417 yards, 74-50 TD-INT, 8.28 QB Rate, sacked 147 times, 9 Game-winning drives. 0 Pro Bowls, 0 playoff appearances.

    98 games = 6.125 seasons

    71 games = 4.438 seasons

    CP: 7.5 wins per year, 332/529, 3724 yards, 25-17 TD-INT, sacked 26 times per year, 2.75 GW drives per year
    JC: 7.0 wins per year, 292/480, 3249 yards, 17-11 TD-INT, sacked 33 times per year, 2 GW drivers per year

    The only statistical advantage JC has is TD-INT ratio by .01.

    So your only case is that Carson is a “diva.”

  • ravenaider

    ghostraiders Says:
    October 28th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
    Raven… I remember that game!! I was 12 yrs old… I thought it was over! I was so happy that Brian sipe threw that into man.. definitely one of the happiest days of my life… I remember Brian sipe crying on the sideline. .. it was a great defensive game!”
    ——————————————————
    Yes Lawd,that was a glorious day! For the life of me,IDK why this game has never been replayed or has not been included in a Raider box set of Greatest Games

  • The Big Banana

    Right, JC pounded me. DMAC, the O-line, Hue Jack, and the receivers had nothing to do with it. LOL. Poor Misty Eyes.

    Never we couldn’t win with him. A mediocre QB can win with a star RB, solid O-line, and real good coaching. But go ahead and keep making sht up to prove your point. And keep hanging your hat on our record while JC was behind center. ;)

  • The Big Banana

    Never *said*

  • ColdHardFacts

    Al never figured out how important a coach was.
    Al viewed it as an area to save money, that HE was the coach.
    And the organization suffered.
    Both coaches in the Bay are making headlines.
    One for how he’s helping the team.
    The other for how he’s hurting his team.

    COLD HARD FOOTBALL FACTS
    More ColumnsEmail Kerry J. Byrne

    The 49ers, under their rookie head man, are the best-coached team in football right now.

    That’s right. No coach has his team playing smarter or more efficiently than Harbaugh.

    Many analysts try to judge the quality of coaching with the eye test. The Cold, Hard Football Facts can quantify San Francisco’s razor-sharp performances with something very tangible: We can measure the quality of coaching with the harsh, inalterable reality of raw numbers.
    Quantifying Team-Wide Efficiency

    We track each NFL team in two key measures of efficiency. We call them Scoreability (offensive efficiency) and Bendability (defensive efficiency), which quantifies the bend-but-don’t-break phenomenon. These are two of our Quality Stats, indicators that have a direct correlation to winning football games.

    Each indicator takes into account a variety of factors that go into winning football, including proficiency of special teams, field position, red zone offense and defense, penalties, third-down offense and defense and turnover differential, and spits out those performances in an easy-to-understand number.

    Essentially, we measure how each team performs in so-called “situational football.” Put most simply, Scoreability and Bendability tell us which teams are smart and well-coached and which teams are not.

    And no team right now is smarter or more well-coached than Harbaugh’s 49ers:

    • No. 1 in Scoreability through Week 7.
    • No. 1 in Bendability through Week 7.

    Harbaugh’s team is boldly sailing into uncharted waters of efficiency. Since we began tracking these indicators in 2004, no team has ranked No. 1 in both offensive and defensive efficiency.

    Keep in mind that these measures are much more than just intellectual exercises by stat geeks far removed from the sidelines. Proficiency in these indicators is critical to team success: teams that win the Scoreability-Bendability battle of efficiency are 83-20 (.806) through Week 7, including an incredible 23-3 in the last two weeks (.885).

    In other words, smart, efficient teams win football games. Dumb, inefficient teams lose football games. (We track the Correlation to Victory of these and many other stats at CHFF Insider.)

    Harbaugh’s 49ers are 5-1 and the surprise story of 2011 because they are the smartest, most efficient in football.
    A Record Pace Of Scoring Efficiency

    We measure each team’s Scoreabilty through Yards Per Point Scored — how many yards you need to score the equivalent of a single point. The lower the number, the better.

    No team has scored more efficiently than the 49ers. San Francisco has produced a meager 1,815 yards of offense. But it has still managed to hang 167 points on the scoreboard. That’s an incredible 10.87 Yards Per Point Scored. In other words, the 49ers are good for about one point with each first down.

    Not only is that performance No. 1 here in 2011, it’s on pace to set the record for scoring efficiency held by the 2007 Patriots. That 16-0 New England team needed just 11.17 Yards Per Point Scored.

    The 2011 Patriots, meanwhile, help put in perspective the incredible efficiency of Harbaugh’s crew. Bill Belichick’s team has generated 2,847 yards of offense this year — 1,032 more yards than the 49ers in just six games. But the Patriots have scored just 18 points more.

    The highly prolific Patriots are wasting a lot of yards, leaving a lot of points on the field and failing to generate points from units other than the offense — especially when compared with the 49ers.

    The importance of efficiency is far more dramatic if we put Scoreability in the context of touchdowns.

    The 49ers need just 76.1 yards of offense to score the equivalent of 7 points. The St. Louis Rams are dead last in Scoreability: they need 225.9 yards of offense to score the equivalent of 7 points.

    Wow, what a difference! There is little wasted effort out of the well-oiled San Francisco machine. The Rams, meanwhile, are riddled with poor field position, poor execution and poor situational football.

    Believe it or not, 5-1 San Francisco and 0-6 St. Louis are almost dead even in total offense: 1,815 yards for the 49ers; 1,807 for the Rams. But the 49ers have scored 167 points; the Rams have scored just 56. The winless St. Louis offense spins its wheels week after week, loss after loss.

    Generating yards does not win NFL games, which is why it’s a waste of time for analysts to rank units by total offense or total defense. Instead, winning in the NFL is all about what you do with that output.

    Smart, well-coached teams maximize their production. Harbaugh’s 49ers are getting the ball in good field position, they’re playing smartly in the red zone and on special teams and they’re not coughing up the football in bad situations.

    (Note: Scoreability counts ALL points, not just those generated by the offense. The scoreboard does not care how those points get there, only that they do. Well-coached teams score points as many ways as possible. Scoreabilty rewards teams for proficiency in all phases of the game; Bendability applies the same rules to defense.)
    Football’s Best “Bend But Don’t Break” Defense

    The same benefit of efficiency applies to defense, where San Francisco is No. 1 in Bendability. They force opponents to march a spirit-killing 20.76 Yards Per Point Allowed.

    In the context of touchdowns, San Francisco’s opponents need 145.3 yards of offense to put 7 points on the board. They have the best “bend-but-don’t-break” defense in football. Opponents may generate a lot of yards, but they do very little with all that effort.

    Now compare San Francisco’s very bendable defense to the peanut-butter-brittle unit fielded by the winless Colts. Indy opponents need just 90.6 yards of offense to score the equivalent of a touchdown.

    In other words, statistically speaking, almost every drive against the Colts results in a touchdown. In the case of the 62-7 loss to New Orleans on Sunday, this statistical phenomenon was on-field reality: the Saints scored on every drive but their last one.

    It was a virtuoso performance of efficiency: New Orleans needed just 8.98 Yards Per Point Scored. But even then, it was only slightly more efficient than San Francisco’s performance all year along (10.17 Yards Per Point Scored).

    The 49ers do all the little things right to make life tough for opposing offenses: they put them in bad situations, make them march long distances, win the turnover battle, and stiffen in the red zone.

    Harbaugh’s 49ers are playing smart, efficient situational football in all phases of the game heading into their Week 8 visit from Cleveland. And it’s this quality of play that’s the biggest reason the 6-10 49ers of 2010 are 5-1 today.
    Models Of Inefficiency

    The 49ers may not be more talented than their opponents. But they’re winning games because they’re smarter than the other guys.

    Conversely, the NFL each year gives us seemingly talented teams that fail to live up to expectations.

    If you see a talented but under-achieving team, turn immediately to Scoreability and Bendabilty and there you will see what’s wrong with said team. In almost every instance, these talented underachievers play stupid football.

    Norv Turner’s Chargers are a prime example of a team that consistently possesses boatloads of talent but that fails to live up to expectations.

    The 2010 Chargers, for example, were No. 1 in both total offense and total defense. Yet they went 9-7 and failed to make the playoffs. The problem? The consistently dumb, inefficient Chargers ranked No. 28 in Bendability, meaning they surrendered a lot of cheap points that made it hard to win games.

    The 2011 Chargers are even worse: No. 31 in Bendability. Only the winless Colts surrender more cheap points.

    The Philadelphia Eagles are the poster child of a talented but dumb football team here in 2011. They seem to have all the pieces in place, including game-breakers all over the field — to the point that they were dubbed the “Dream Team” after cleaning up in the free-agent market.

    But the Eagles are just 2-4 and dead last in the tough NFC East.

    The problems in Philadelphia are easy to diagnose: this talented “Dream Team” is the worst in the NFL at situational football.

    The Eagles rank No. 28 in both Scoreability (18.28 Yards Per Point Scored) and Bendability (14.12 Yards Per Point Allowed).

    They waste a lot of effort on offense, generating yards with little to show for it. Then they compound the problems on defense, by giving up a lot of cheap points that make it hard to win games.

  • Silverandblack666

    Mistic1 you and Hue Jackson are no longer in lock step!

    Hue did not want JC long term so he waited until he had the chance to go out and get the guy he wanted.

    Now Hue and I are in Lock step!

    Bow down before me and acknowledged my greatness!

    That’s how you act and you wonder why we are all telling you to shut up and stop whining already!

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    # LA to TheBay Says:
    October 28th, 2011 at 1:10 pm

    Mistic:

    Carson Palmer:

    46-51 W-L, 2032/3238 62.8%, 22,810 yards, 154-103 TD-INT, 86.3 QB Rate, sacked 160 times, 17 Game-winning drives. 2 Pro Bowls, 2 playoff appearances.

    Jason Campbell:

    31-39 W-L, 1296/2131 60.8%, 14,417 yards, 74-50 TD-INT, 8.28 QB Rate, sacked 147 times, 9 Game-winning drives. 0 Pro Bowls, 0 playoff appearances.

    98 games = 6.125 seasons

    71 games = 4.438 seasons

    CP: 7.5 wins per year, 332/529, 3724 yards, 25-17 TD-INT, sacked 26 times per year, 2.75 GW drives per year
    JC: 7.0 wins per year, 292/480, 3249 yards, 17-11 TD-INT, sacked 33 times per year, 2 GW drivers per year

    The only statistical advantage JC has is TD-INT ratio by .01.

    So your only case is that Carson is a “diva.”
    ===========================

    Thanks L.A

    I have said all along that they are far more similar than many want to believe. You must also take into account that they both played for miserable teams.

    here is where i make a few distinctions.

    palmer has played a little longer. he has also played in the same offense year after year and had very good receivers, t.o. housh and ocho in their prime.

    Jc played with inferioir receivers and a new offense yearly.

    carson tanked in a bad locker room, then cashed a very large check and quit.

    Jc came to a bad locker room with under performing talent in oakland yet, through force of will and by setting a standard of professionalism was able to remake it under his own personality. he transformed a loser into a winner. Even while a coach was fired and it seemed to all that turmoil would destroy our season even before it started.

    looking at the numbers, and the case history now you can see why i dont consider it some kind of instant upgrade. He is a suitable replacement, if he can avoid the picks and off field antics.

    they both have been around 82-84 rating for their career, but where palmer was trending down jc is trending up.

    not sure why your comparing them though. i was talking about palmer only, he is the qb

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    The Big Banana Says:
    October 28th, 2011 at 1:11 pm

    Never we couldn’t win with him.
    ==================

    score board bra 12-7

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    October 28th, 2011 at 1:13 pm

    Mistic1 you and Hue Jackson are no longer in lock step!
    ===========================

    we arent? how so? we needed a replacement because jc was hurt. Jc wouldnt have been replaced if he wasnt hurt hu jack said that as well.

    We beat the hell out of you for a year and a half.

    yep lockstep

  • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Davis The Realist Dirty Raccoon

    R8eray Says:
    October 28th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    October 28th, 2011 at 11:01 am
    COLT 45= real malt liqour

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    4 Lokos = Don’t remember what I did last night!
    ::::::::::

    R8dercain Says:
    October 28th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
    Mickey’s Big mouth!
    Miller high Life 32’s

    maaaan Old E go back to my high school
    then it was St. Ides.

    Now I drink heiniken or Red Stripe

    ::::::::::

    It’s all about the 211 for me. If I can’t get it the Cobra will do.

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  • LA to TheBay

    If suitable replacement = upgrade, then sure. TO, Chad and TJ, huh? I guess, Cooley, Moss, and Davis are chopped liver. Carson’s better in literally every category but one, where they are almost at a dead heat. And of course, that’s proportionate. In reality, Carson wins more and throws more TDs.

  • ghostraiders

    Mistic. …. I don’t know how you root for Palmer man!! .. I always wanted jc to do well.. always!!! Why? Because he was the Raiders qb.. .. you backed yourself into a corner now!! Because when Carson plays well… You’re probably Not going to post very much…. but oh well?? Your choice man!!…

  • ghostraiders

    Mistic. .. do you want Palmer to do well?? Do you want him to throw for a lot of touch Downs? Or will you continue with the fairy tale of campbell being the reason the raiders are back… which is laughable. .. Campbell converts losers to winners?? Lmao. .. that’s funny!!

  • JB

    Listening to Soup’s part 2 interview, the following information was evident:

    • He is still a really classy guy
    • He throws nobody under the bus
    • He has really found himself while at Oakland
    • He has/had an excellent relationship with his teammates
    • He speaks highly of his teammates
    • He feels he’s a starter in this league and he most likely will NOT be in Oakland next year.
    • He will be looking for a starter role next year.

    http://bleacherreport.com/tb/bbK5c (select part 2 of his interview)

    I personally would like to see JC remain in Oakland as the BU-QB. But, I do understand if he wants to move on. He could probably land a starting role at the SeaHawks. I will cheer for him as long as they are not playing the Raiders. He’s definitely a good guy. Unfortunately for him, his injury has initiated the Carson Palmer era in Oakland.

  • DEATHROW 55

    I liked jc as the raider qb, he seemed like he has more to prove and to accomplish vs palmer. I think either qb could take us to the promise land because we are a run first team and they basically just have to manage the game and not fukkk up. Jc seemed to have a handle on it before his bad luck injury. But if the dumbazz new how to slide we would still have our future picks and we would of beat the quiefs. Jc would of taken us to the playoffs and we would of re- signed him. Cmon he was making dhb look damn good out there why would we break up awesome chemistry!!! There is a lot of preassure on palmer cause he has a garage full of suped up muscle cars and hue just gave him all the keys to get us to the super bowl and get there fast, fast as in this year. I have faith that this will be done for mr al davis.

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