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Raiders sign WR Houshmandzadeh

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Tuesday, November 1st, 2011 at 3:05 pm in Oakland Raiders.

The Raiders have reached an agreement with veteran wide receiver T.J. Houshmandzadeh, the team announced on its Twitter account.

Houshmandzadeh was scheduled to work out with the Raiders on Tuesday, and coach Hue Jackson apparently liked what he saw, enough to put a deal in place for the veteran minimum salary prorated over the remainder of the season. The deal will pay Houshmandzadeh approximately $500,000 for the final nine games.

Jackson was the Cincinnati Bengals wide receivers coach when Houshmandzadeh, 34, had some of his biggest seasons. He played the last two seasons with the Seattle Seahawks and Baltimore Ravens, respectively. He excels as a slot receiver and gives quarterback Carson Palmer, who also played with the Bengals, a familiar target.

The Raiders must cut a player to accomodate Housmandzadeh, with fullback Manase Tonga a potential candidate, assuming regular starter Marcel Reece has returned to health and is able to play against the Denver Broncos on Sunday.

Houshmandzadeh will wear No. 84 for the Raiders. He is expected to be on the practice field Wednesday, the next time the Raiders assemble.

It’s unclear whether Houshmandzadeh will be ready in time for the Broncos game. He hasn’t played in a game since Jan. 15, when the Ravens were eliminated from the AFC Playoffs. He had four receptions for 66 yards in the Ravens two playoff games.

It’s worth noting that Jackson played linebacker Aaron Curry after only one practice with the Raiders and Palmer after only three practices. Houshmandzadeh will get in three practices before the Broncos game.

Houshmandzadeh caught 241 passes for 3,105 yards and 20 touhdowns from 2004-06, when Jackson was the Bengals receivers coach.

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1,155 Responses to “Raiders sign WR Houshmandzadeh”

  1. No Mas Diamante Says:

    Primero

  2. No Mas Diamante Says:

    So who gets the axe?

  3. Raiders_83 Says:

    Glass?

  4. Raiders_83 Says:

    Should be a TE

  5. flowbees Says:

    WOW….8 wrs on the roster?

  6. RaiderDogg Says:

    Say good bye to Tonga, who will then be re-signed to the practice squad if nobody picks him up…

  7. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Come on Steve, if they signed T.J., they cut someone. Who gave up their playbook to the “turk”?

  8. lefty12 Says:

    It looks like the days of keeping young players due to their upside might be over with.We are going to miss Al.

  9. No Mas Diamante Says:

    I dont think we carry that many wr’s.

  10. DeuceDeuce Says:

    RaiderDogg Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:08 pm
    Say good bye to Tonga, who will then be re-signed to the practice squad if nobody picks him up…

    —-

    When…when no one picks him up.

  11. Dstomp Says:

    I agree raiderdog, Tonga gets the axe

  12. raiderjhawk Says:

    WTF?

  13. Method To My Madness Says:

    Tonga cut? Hue is a loser if this happens and we get exactly what we deserve

  14. LA to TheBay Says:

    I’ll take a reliable chain-mover slot receiver.

    Kind of thought that’s what Hagan did for us, but if TJ and Carson are on the same page and make plays, doesn’t matter.

  15. raiderzmaverick Says:

    He’s like another Hagan, only maybe he’ll be given a chance. At least he’ll probably catch almost everything thrown his way. No harm in having him, although it takes away a bit of the “explosive” nature of our offense.

  16. No Mas Diamante Says:

    I think it will be gordon or murph / chaz

  17. raiderzmaverick Says:

    LA to the Bay – we’re on the same page man.

  18. raiderjhawk Says:

    Why does it feel like Hue is just giving all his old washed up player buddies jobs so they can get paid before he ditches us for the next big gig?

    There is a reason that nobody else picked these dudes up while they sat on the open market for so long.

  19. Method To My Madness Says:

    8.lefty12 Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:08 pm
    It looks like the days of keeping young players due to their upside might be over with.We are going to miss Al.

    *******************

    I miss Al now…Hue is drunk with Power…this is bad

  20. The Realist Dirty Raccoon Says:

    Gordon or Aussberry gone I’m guessing

  21. daraider09 Says:

    I dont like this move. And I dont like Hue’s brash ways. Both on the field and with these personnel moves so far. He is going down the path to eventually lose the locker room if things dont go well.

    In addition, I think things might not be very rosy over the next few weeks. We’re asking a brand new QB off the street to perform at and above the level of the QB that had 2 years in the system. I foresee more growing pains for Carson.

    This could get ugly. I hope I’m wrong.

    Plus TJ takes snaps away from good young receivers. How are they going to feel? Jacoby? Denarius? Murph? Hagan? He’d better perform well.

  22. GoodOle00 Says:

    Good move. Instant chemistry with Palmer.

  23. Raiders_83 Says:

    I’d take Tonga over 4 TE’s

    Still……

    Is the terroist game ready?

    doubt it

  24. Blackmamba_20 Says:

    Hue may be getting a little big for his own boots.. Tell carson play with what we got here already..hes getting paid a s***T LOAD.

  25. The Big Banana Says:

    Flowbees Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:08 pm
    WOW….8 wrs on the roster?

    _________-

    Doesn’t this just make 7?

    DHB
    Ford
    Moore
    Hagan
    Schilens
    Murphy
    Housh

    Who am I missing?

  26. DeuceDeuce Says:

    This is Hus Jackson’s Oakland Raiders.

    Get with it or get left at 8-8.

  27. raiderjhawk Says:

    Didn’t Housh suck bad with the Raven’s last year?

  28. The Realist Dirty Raccoon Says:

    Raiderjhawk Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:11 pm
    Why does it feel like Hue is just giving all his old washed up player buddies jobs so they can get paid before he ditches us for the next big gig?

    There is a reason that nobody else picked these dudes up while they sat on the open market for so long.

    ::::::::::

    What “dudes” do you speak of?

  29. r8eray Says:

    CUT CHAZ!!!!!

    That will make sense….anything else would be like WTF!

  30. DeuceDeuce Says:

    Hue*

  31. Cole Ford Says:

    Housh is on the loose! Raiders should cut Method To My Madness, he’s dead weight. The guy hasn’t contributed nothing since the mid 90s.

  32. Raiders_83 Says:

    Donkey Punch

  33. The Big Banana Says:

    Lefty12 Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:08 pm
    It looks like the days of keeping young players due to their upside might be over with.We are going to miss Al.

    ____________

    The ghost of Al does not approve of this signing. Hue, that cold air you feel right now is the ghost if Al getting ready to lay into you.

  34. GoodOle00 Says:

    TWO pink slips. One for who ever Housh replaces and One for whoever Reece replaces when he comes back.

    Thats gonna be Tonga NOT Gordon

  35. Method To My Madness Says:

    21.daraider09 Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:11 pm
    I dont like this move. And I dont like Hue’s brash ways. Both on the field and with these personnel moves so far. He is going down the path to eventually lose the locker room if things dont go well.

    In addition, I think things might not be very rosy over the next few weeks. We’re asking a brand new QB off the street to perform at and above the level of the QB that had 2 years in the system. I foresee more growing pains for Carson.

    This could get ugly. I hope I’m wrong.

    Plus TJ takes snaps away from good young receivers. How are they going to feel? Jacoby? Denarius? Murph? Hagan? He’d better perform well.

    ******************

    Yep

  36. Raiders_83 Says:

    @CorkOnTheNFLSteve Corkran

    Deal will pay Houshmandzadej approximately $500,000 for final 9 games, based on prorated portion of minimum contract. Not sure who gets cut.

    5 minutes agovia

  37. Method To My Madness Says:

    31.Cole Ford Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:14 pm
    Housh is on the loose! Raiders should cut Method To My Madness, he’s dead weight. The guy hasn’t contributed nothing since the mid 90s.

    ***************

    Like your missed FG vs Tampa?

  38. Chris in NY Says:

    We’ll see. I don’t see Housh becoming a new No. 1 or 2. More of a role player. A guy who comes in and helps us move the chains. Though they have very different physical makeup and style, think of what Troy Brown used to do as a receiver for the Pats.

  39. RaiderDogg Says:

    LA To TheBay Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:10 pm
    I’ll take a reliable chain-mover slot receiver.

    Kind of thought that’s what Hagan did for us, but if TJ and Carson are on the same page and make plays, doesn’t matter.
    ————————————————
    Tonga has demonstrated some value recently which could mean the end for Hagan, but I am hearing that Tonga is the guy, just because of the likelihood that he will be available to re-sign to the practice squad…

  40. Method To My Madness Says:

    34.GoodOle00 Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:15 pm
    TWO pink slips. One for who ever Housh replaces and One for whoever Reece replaces when he comes back.

    Thats gonna be Tonga NOT Gordon

    ******************

    Loser move

  41. raiderjhawk Says:

    I’m officially getting sick of Hue Jackson…

  42. DeuceDeuce Says:

    Win now.

    Denarius Moore has hit his wall. More reps dont mean much for him at this point.

  43. Method To My Madness Says:

    39.RaiderDogg Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:16 pm
    LA To TheBay Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:10 pm
    I’ll take a reliable chain-mover slot receiver.

    Kind of thought that’s what Hagan did for us, but if TJ and Carson are on the same page and make plays, doesn’t matter.
    ————————————————
    Tonga has demonstrated some value recently which could mean the end for Hagan, but I am hearing that Tonga is the guy, just because of the likelihood that he will be available to re-sign to the practice squad…

    ***************

    Rap is a Joke?

    Naw Hue is a joke

  44. Method To My Madness Says:

    41.raiderjhawk Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:16 pm
    I’m officially getting sick of Hue Jackson…

    ************************

    Me too

  45. RaiderDogg Says:

    Housh was signed to be a possesion reciever and won’t take too many catches away from Ford or DHB for the most part…

  46. lefty12 Says:

    Hue said he wanted to bring him in during the pre-season.I’m guessing Al wouldn’t let him,told him to get the young guys experience.

  47. Method To My Madness Says:

    23.Raiders_83 Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:12 pm
    I’d take Tonga over 4 TE’s

    Still……

    Is the terroist game ready?

    doubt it

    ***************

    Exactly

  48. Method To My Madness Says:

    45.RaiderDogg Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:17 pm
    Housh was signed to be a possesion reciever and won’t take too many catches away from Ford or DHB for the most part…

    ***************

    Ford? What catches? lol

  49. Cole Ford Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:16 pm
    31.Cole Ford Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:14 pm
    Housh is on the loose! Raiders should cut Method To My Madness, he’s dead weight. The guy hasn’t contributed nothing since the mid 90s.

    ***************

    Like your missed FG vs Tampa?
    ————–
    What you talkin about Willis?

  50. Chris in NY Says:

    Reece is still on the roster, just inactive. Won’t bump anyone.

    I believe we had one empty spot for Lito Sheppard to take. So there will be one cut for the Housh signing. Best guesses:

    1. Ausberry, with plans to resign to practice squad
    2. Chaz is actually injured and goes to IR
    3. Tonga, with hopes of resigning to practice squad. I think Ausberry is the more likely candidate though because I think he would be more likely to clear waivers, IMHO.

  51. raiderjhawk Says:

    Racoon,

    Ndukwe sp?
    Housh

    I’ll throw Lito in there as well.

  52. Method To My Madness Says:

    46.lefty12 Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:18 pm
    Hue said he wanted to bring him in during the pre-season.I’m guessing Al wouldn’t let him,told him to get the young guys experience.

    ******************

    This is crap

  53. Plunder Says:

    We need more production out of the slot.

    It’s pretty much that simple.

    With Reece coming back soon, that probably means Tonga cut and hopefully resigned to the PS.

    That means another player will have to be chopped and I don’t see Hue carrying 7 WRs. Schillens cut? Murphy cut? One of the TE?

    It’ll be interesting to see.

  54. GoodOle00 Says:

    Raiderjhawk Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:11 pm
    Why does it feel like Hue is just giving all his old washed up player buddies jobs so they can get paid before he ditches us for the next big gig?

    There is a reason that nobody else picked these dudes up while they sat on the open market for so long.

    ================

    Really dude?

    Hue ditch us?

    Drater!

    WHY would Hue ditch us? With Davis dead, this move PROVES Jackson has more power than ANY HC or GM in the League.

    Where in the hell would he go that he’d get that?

    Stupid stupid comment.

    “On the open market?!!!”

    It took 2 first round DPs* to get Palmer you dolt! Thats hardly floating around on the open market.

  55. RaiderDogg Says:

    Big B!

    I didn’t really realize that was you, how you been man? I don’t dip in here very often these days, explains my lack of knowledge regarding your new name.

    Getting sick of Hue? Only time will tell how these moves will pan out, personally I am always for attempts at improving, it’s all about what Hue will do when something doesn’t pan out.

    Rap Is A Joke btw…

  56. DeuceDeuce Says:

    raiderjhawk Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:16 pm
    I’m officially getting sick of Hue Jackson…

    —-

    noted.

  57. Method To My Madness Says:

    49.Cole Ford Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:18 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:16 pm
    31.Cole Ford Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:14 pm
    Housh is on the loose! Raiders should cut Method To My Madness, he’s dead weight. The guy hasn’t contributed nothing since the mid 90s.

    ***************

    Like your missed FG vs Tampa?
    ————–
    What you talkin about Willis?

    ******************
    Whatever Cole Ray Finkle Ford

  58. lefty12 Says:

    Reece getting back on the field doesn’t require a roster move.

  59. aig-raiders Says:

    Hue wanted TJ last year and TJ chose the Ravens over the Raiders. TJ wanted to play for a winner and he got his wish. Yeah baby!!!!!

    finally some experience in that WR group.

  60. Method To My Madness Says:

    55.RaiderDogg Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:20 pm
    Big B!

    I didn’t really realize that was you, how you been man? I don’t dip in here very often these days, explains my lack of knowledge regarding your new name.

    Getting sick of Hue? Only time will tell how these moves will pan out, personally I am always for attempts at improving, it’s all about what Hue will do when something doesn’t pan out.

    Rap Is A Joke btw…

    *************

    Hue is an idiot if hagan or tonga cut….yall can have the games…ill be at home

  61. aig-raiders Says:

    Housh is on the loose! Raiders should cut Method To My Madness, he’s dead weight. The guy hasn’t contributed nothing since the mid 90s.
    ————————————
    hahahahahahahahah….post of the day.

  62. raiderjhawk Says:

    I hope Chris in NY is right and one of our WR’s is hurt, because otherwise this move doesn’t make since.

    Vittario Tafur is a dooshbag, he’s now referring to us as the Oakland Bengals.

  63. No Mas Diamante Says:

    We are carrying 7 wr’s and 4 te’s. Someone is going to go from those 11

  64. Cole Ford Says:

    This is what my doctor said:

    while watching Siegfried & Roy he realized “what was wrong with the world was linked to the illusionists’ treatment, dominance and unhealthy intimacy” with their animals, Roitman wrote in his report.

    “He felt they threatened (the) world, and he began trying to figure out how he could stop them.”

  65. olinesux Says:

    Don’t like this move at all…we have excess talent at wr position and now they will have less playing time for hues old friends…

  66. The Big Banana Says:

    Until such time as a GM is hired, I propose that our Raiders take a vote from the semi-pros prior to any and all player transactions. All those in favor write Aye.

  67. GoodOle00 Says:

    50. Tried to get confirmation on Schilens during Steve’s live chat. No answer but I thought you couldn;t cut a guy who is injured like U said about Schilens.

    Maybe thats just before the week six trade cut off? Or maybe its no longer that way because of the new CBA? I don;t know and Steve was too busy answering the same 4 questions over and over and over.

  68. DeuceDeuce Says:

    Someone has to go. We were at 53 with the Lito signing.

  69. Plunder Says:

    #58

    Hrmm… Cork giving out misleading info in the chat then. Haha.

  70. daraider09 Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:17 pm
    41.raiderjhawk Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:16 pm
    I’m officially getting sick of Hue Jackson…

    ************************

    Me too

    **************************

    Me three, at least.

  71. crister Says:

    Somewhere, Rudy Johnson is saying . . . “I want some of that.”

  72. DeuceDeuce Says:

    Cut Tonga!!!

  73. GoodOle00 Says:

    64. RMR, your doctor is Winston Smith?

  74. raiderjhawk Says:

    HEY GOODOLE00!

    That’s why I said “why does it feel like”…

    It just seems that we are now headed down the wrong road to me. Hopefully it works out.

  75. DeuceDeuce Says:

    Ochocinco lost..

  76. aig-raiders Says:

    daraider09 Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:23 pm

    Method To My Madness Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:17 pm
    41.raiderjhawk Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:16 pm
    I’m officially getting sick of Hue Jackson…

    ************************

    Me too

    **************************

    Me three, at least.
    —————

    WTH…You guys were on his wagon coming into this season. We were the skeptical ones. Now that we are on the Hue wagon, you guys are jumping off. Sheeesshhhh

  77. Cole Ford Says:

    I like it! We need some WR experience going into the playoff run. I especially like his name. It’s fun to say.

  78. No Mas Diamante Says:

    Murphy or Gordon…I like both players but gordon is expendable now and murph just aint himself. Chaz has good hands and has good size. we shall soon see…

  79. GoodOle00 Says:

    69.Plunder Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:23 pm
    #58

    Hrmm… Cork giving out misleading info in the chat then. Haha.

    ====

    Honestly, Steve’s been wrong about 2 or 3 things and clearly is NOT anywhere as knowledgable as Jerry Mac when it comes to the Raiders.

  80. olinesux Says:

    Like I said before…the new raiders = older and slower…

  81. Method To My Madness Says:

    59.aig-raiders Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:21 pm
    Hue wanted TJ last year and TJ chose the Ravens over the Raiders. TJ wanted to play for a winner and he got his wish. Yeah baby!!!!!

    finally some experience in that WR group.

    ********************

    Boooooooooooooo fk TJ Douchemanzadeh….he sucks

  82. No Mas Diamante Says:

    T.O. is crying right about now…

  83. DeuceDeuce Says:

    Tonga or Giordano….come on Hue…Cut em!!!

  84. Method To My Madness Says:

    76.aig-raiders Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:24 pm
    daraider09 Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:23 pm

    Method To My Madness Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:17 pm
    41.raiderjhawk Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:16 pm
    I’m officially getting sick of Hue Jackson…

    ************************

    Me too

    **************************

    Me three, at least.
    —————

    WTH…You guys were on his wagon coming into this season. We were the skeptical ones. Now that we are on the Hue wagon, you guys are jumping off. Sheeesshhhh

    ***************

    Maybe if you can open your eyes and see he is drunk with power…Al aint there to keep him in check

  85. DeuceDeuce Says:

    olinesux Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:26 pm
    Like I said before…the new raiders = older and slower…

    —-

    lol…how?

    Cause we signed 1 older WR who is gonna be a slot guy at best?…

  86. Cole Ford Says:

    “NFL players are much in the environment of the Roman Coliseum. A lot of sacrificing takes place,” Ford said. “It’s possible I didn’t want to become a successful athlete because maybe then I would have been sacrificed.”
    ————–
    I said that a few years ago. I still believe it. I feel bad for all these guys getting concussions now. I hope they don’t end up like I did.

  87. GoodOle00 Says:

    78.No Mas Diamante Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:25 pm
    Murphy or Gordon…I like both players but gordon is expendable now and murph just aint himself. Chaz has good hands and has good size. we shall soon see

    ===========

    You’re high.

    Gordon is not even on the table. The guy looked good filling for Reece at FB and lined up at TE until he busted his hand.

  88. Method To My Madness Says:

    83.DeuceDeuce Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:26 pm
    Tonga or Giordano….come on Hue…Cut em!!!

    ********************

    I’d like to cut you with my butterfly knife

  89. SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:

    Again, I’m riding or dying with Hue because he has been the best thing to happen to us in awhile, but just like the Carson move, I’m leery about this one too. Like someone else said, I hope I’m wrong and Hue is right. I feel like a puppet fan now. All I can do is cheer, but I seriously don’t know how this is going to end up; none of us do. Not even Hue, and he better hope it ends right.

    In Hue we trust…or Hue Jack City becomes Hue’s Wack Sh!tty

    I’m keeping faith that the essence of the Raiders makes this thing work though and I’m pulling hard for us. It’s still DMac’s team, and as long as the D balls out, never know….sky is the limit.

  90. raiderjhawk Says:

    I’ve been on the wagon my whole life, I don’t ever get off the Raider wagon. I bleed Raiders.

    I just think Hue is getting drunk with power, sue me. Half these moves wouldn’t have floated when Al was alive, believe that. I can make a list right after I eat if you’d like.

  91. Method To My Madness Says:

    86.Cole Ford Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:27 pm
    “NFL players are much in the environment of the Roman Coliseum. A lot of sacrificing takes place,” Ford said. “It’s possible I didn’t want to become a successful athlete because maybe then I would have been sacrificed.”
    ————–
    I said that a few years ago. I still believe it. I feel bad for all these guys getting concussions now. I hope they don’t end up like I did.
    *******************

    The Laces were in Finkle?

  92. La Milicia Negra Says:

    who did we cut to sign Lito?

  93. Plunder Says:

    One thing I remember about TJ… he’s fearless in the middle of the field.

    Out of the slot… that could work out well considering his chemistry with Palmer.

  94. La Milicia Negra Says:

    whoohoooo, lets go get Robiskie!! =)

  95. GoodOle00 Says:

    85.DeuceDeuce Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:27 pm
    olinesux Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:26 pm
    Like I said before…the new raiders = older and slower…

    —-

    lol…how?

    Cause we signed 1 older WR who is gonna be a slot guy at best?…

    —-

    Stupid comments and trolls baiting. Fug this

  96. Method To My Madness Says:

    90.raiderjhawk Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:28 pm
    I’ve been on the wagon my whole life, I don’t ever get off the Raider wagon. I bleed Raiders.

    I just think Hue is getting drunk with power, sue me. Half these moves wouldn’t have floated when Al was alive, believe that. I can make a list right after I eat if you’d like.

    *****************

    On point…too bad mizzou has to kick your ass twice on the bball court

  97. purvisman Says:

    raiderjhawk Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:11 pm

    Why does it feel like Hue is just giving all his old washed up player buddies jobs so they can get paid before he ditches us for the next big gig?

    There is a reason that nobody else picked these dudes up while they sat on the open market for so long.
    ////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Other than TJ, who else sat on the open market?

  98. DeuceDeuce Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:27 pm
    83.DeuceDeuce Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:26 pm
    Tonga or Giordano….come on Hue…Cut em!!!

    ********************

    I’d like to cut you with my butterfly knife

    —-

    Id like to cut Tonga & Giordano from the Raiders.

  99. lefty12 Says:

    Whoever is the least valuable ST player is who will go-or at least who should go.

  100. GoodOle00 Says:

    Cole Ford? Does no one recognize our sh*tty old 7th round kicker?

  101. McRaider5150 Says:

    I really don’t have a problem with this move. It has been a very long time since we’ve had a true vet at WR to teach these youngster how to play the position. A WR coach doesn’t do much coaching during game, that were TJ can be relly helpful.

  102. GoodOle00 Says:

    Cut Giordano?!

    Not the greatest ever but the dude had 2 sacks in his last game?!

  103. SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:

    Post 101 – Agreed, but only IF, and I mean IF TJ isn’t the pouting WR he was when we last saw him…can’t be teaching if you’re too busy crying…..

  104. Cole Ford Says:

    La Milicia Negra Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:28 pm
    who did we cut to sign Lito?
    ———————
    We cut Albert Paine. Patriots already picked him on waivers, though.

  105. Method To My Madness Says:

    TJ Douchemanzadeh= Suga Free the Pomona pimp…..Baby Why ya Bullschittin!

  106. fingers Says:

    Schilens may have snapped hammy tying his shoes …

  107. Mr. T Says:

    Meet me at Jack London square you cross dresser we’ll settle this right now ugggggggg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  108. Goldie7 Says:

    Let’s Go Houshmandzadeh! Let’s chop chop! Let’s get her done! Thanks for the info. Jerry! Good looking out!

  109. Cole Ford Says:

    GoodOle00 Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:30 pm
    Cole Ford? Does no one recognize our sh*tty old 7th round kicker?
    ———
    Method does. We used to hang back in the day. He was my wing man.

  110. DeuceDeuce Says:

    GoodOle00 Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:31 pm
    Cut Giordano?!

    Not the greatest ever but the dude had 2 sacks in his last game?!

    —-

    Ndukwe. He’s a better option.

  111. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Put Boller on IR. Balls got injured during Chiefs game.

  112. Mr. T Says:

    Houshmandzadeh mozzeltoff. Housh want to meet me at the game and throw in the gloves? Chumps.

  113. Plunder Says:

    Schillens to IR?

    I mean, he was inactive last week.

  114. olinesux Says:

    new safety ( huff and double m are better players), new corner ( didn’t al just draft two?), new wr ( we have six good youngry ones)…= older slower

  115. GoodOle00 Says:

    “Chiefs rolling” on NFLN. Pffft!

    Beat the two sh*ttiest teams in the League, crushed Oakland who had NO QB and managed to eak out a win over SD in one of the worst games they;ve ever played.

    8 turnovers?!

    Gross.

    KC? Posers.

    Enjoy it losers. Its gonna be over QUICK

  116. Mr. T Says:

    Go ahead and meet me at a game so I can smash your head like one of gallagher’s melons!

  117. Method To My Madness Says:

    100.GoodOle00 Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:30 pm
    Cole Ford? Does no one recognize our sh*tty old 7th round kicker?

    ***************

    aka Ray Finkle

  118. DeuceDeuce Says:

    CUT TONGA & GIORDANO!!!

    Sign Leigh Bodden!!

    Ahhh!!!! All these roster moves are making me spin!!!

  119. Raiders_83 Says:

    One thing is for sure..
    Nobody’s safe.
    Put up or hit the road

  120. daraider09 Says:

    aig-raiders Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:24 pm

    WTH…You guys were on his wagon coming into this season. We were the skeptical ones. Now that we are on the Hue wagon, you guys are jumping off. Sheeesshhhh

    **********************************************

    I am one to ride it out with a coach and see what he can do. Not talk about firing a guy the day after we sign him , unlike some people in here. Anyways, the point I’m making is that Hue’s ACTIONS are what concern me.

    GAME MANAGEMENT: Going for it on 4th downs left and right early and often, the fake FGS, the 3 flea flickers in a game. And not learning from these mistakes a week after he made them. Stil being hard headed enough to do it again.

    PERSONNEL: As soon as Al died, he has gone crazy with the power trip:
    Curry: good move but still question whether it would have been done under AL.
    Palmer: Trash move, our entire franchises’ hopes for the next 3 year depend on Carson being successful. I hope he is successful but no matter how you spin it they gave up way too much.
    TJ: Another brash powertrip move because he has the power to do so. And this could show that Carson asked for him and he delivered. WHat about the rest of the team? Carson is the new guy! This could eventually contribute to losing the locker room if things dont go well.

    Too many risky moves with little payoff is the bottom line.
    I dont see Harbaugh across the bay doing these things and he has that mediocry roster at 6-1. He’s confident and calculated. Hue is a gunslinger and I dont think that bodes well for sustained success.
    I wish we could just get back to blocking and tackling which is what got us to 8-8 last year. Hard nosed football.
    Hue is focusing on the big splash and its getting on my nerves. We are a 4-3 team, not a 6-1 or 7-0 team.

  121. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    I thought you were referencing Cole Ford from “Days of Thunder” with Tom Cruise.

  122. The Realist Dirty Raccoon Says:

    Plunder Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:28 pm
    One thing I remember about TJ… he’s fearless in the middle of the field.

    Out of the slot… that could work out well considering his chemistry with Palmer.

    ::::::::::

    Is trade Murphy.

    LMN, we cut the PK whom we singed to cover fir Jano

  123. Mr. T Says:

    Mama said knock you out! Meet me at a game!!!

  124. Method To My Madness Says:

    109.Cole Ford Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:33 pm
    GoodOle00 Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:30 pm
    Cole Ford? Does no one recognize our sh*tty old 7th round kicker?
    ———
    Method does. We used to hang back in the day. He was my wing man.

    ****************

    Yeah but he failed once in Tampa…missed wide…cost us the game

  125. GoodOle00 Says:

    Oline:

    Really?! Six GOOD youngry WRs”?

    GOOD?!

    WHO?!

    I see a bunch of rookies and unproductive and unproven WRs.

    Talented perhaps but “good”?

    No way. Not yet…

  126. DeuceDeuce Says:

    olinesux Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:34 pm
    new safety ( huff and double m are better players), new corner ( didn’t al just draft two?), new wr ( we have six good youngry ones)…= older slower

    —-

    Every single one of those players arent regulars. Not 1 starter. Giordano, Sheppard, TJ.

  127. Mr. T Says:

    1997? Sheeeeeeit. I was working in real estate. I liked Cole Ford. He could kick the ball and he was real.

  128. GoodOle00 Says:

    Yeah, no one gets cut to add. Lito. Rayner gone

  129. Cole Ford Says:

    Exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:35 pm
    I thought you were referencing Cole Ford from “Days of Thunder” with Tom Cruise.
    ———–
    No dude! I’m the guy who tried to kill Siegfried and Roy.

  130. Method To My Madness Says:

    118.DeuceDeuce Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:35 pm
    CUT TONGA & GIORDANO!!!

    Sign Leigh Bodden!!

    Ahhh!!!! All these roster moves are making me spin!!!

    ****************

    Bodden sucks….go off yourself

  131. olinesux Says:

    Correction then…talented, still who loses playing time for a washed up prima Donna like housh? Gio is a free safety just holding down huffs spot, lito…c’mon man.

  132. Raiders_83 Says:

    Didn’t Cole Trickle race with Ricky Bobby?

  133. Goldie7 Says:

    111.exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:33 pm
    Put Boller on IR. Balls got injured during Chiefs game.

    *******

    lol…We all know that Boller is a nice guy but dang this is really funny.
    :)

  134. 0ak_R8Dr89 Says:

    I actually like this move…someone palmer os familiar with and a solid slot receiver on third and 5 to move the chains…..BUT there has to be a reason y he hasn’t been picked up yet. …Oh well we’ll find out soon….GO raiders!!

  135. Method To My Madness Says:

    125.GoodOle00 Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:36 pm
    Oline:

    Really?! Six GOOD youngry WRs”?

    GOOD?!

    WHO?!

    I see a bunch of rookies and unproductive and unproven WRs.

    Talented perhaps but “good”?

    No way. Not yet…

    *****************

    TJ not good either

  136. Zymurge Says:

    I think the WR to lose is Murphy. Anyone that thinks he has value in the NFL is simply over-valuing him through silver colored glasses as a Raiders player. Sure he lead the team in receiving, but with less than 50 and against no real competition the whole season. There’s a reason that the press anointed Ford the best WR on the team based on just a few games at the end of last season. DHB was still finding his game, Chaz was perpetually hurt, and Murphy was just a mediocre guy getting starters reps.

    Murphy is pretty much another Hagan. A veteran WR that might bounce around training camps and make a team as the #5 or #6 for depth. I’d say that pretty much every team in the NFL has a comparable talent to Murphy as their #5 and some might even have a #6 that he doesn’t beat out.

  137. RaiderSam Says:

    Lefty12 Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:08 pm
    It looks like the days of keeping young players due to their upside might be over with.We are going to miss Al.
    ===================
    Wasnt Jerry Rice signed when he was 41 or something? Blanda? Davis invented bringing in the Silver and Grey (2002 Super Bowl run)

    3 turnovers CP had were intended for Denarious Moore – the one where the Chief jumped the route was inexcusable, but the others (including one bouncing off Moore) were on target

  138. cheap college tuition Says:

    I see a lot of crying on this blog. We lost our starting QB, DMac is hurt and the only receiver that has done ANYTHING of late has been DHB.

    Carson should know TJ’s flow which will help with timing. You guys remember our offense PRIOR to HueJack?

    What are you guys crying about? You sound like whiner fans. They took a HUGE gamble on Palmer and it will either work out or it will not.

  139. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    129.Cole Ford Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:38 pm
    Exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:35 pm
    I thought you were referencing Cole Ford from “Days of Thunder” with Tom Cruise.
    ———–
    No dude! I’m the guy who tried to kill Siegfried and Roy.

    —————————————–
    lmao

  140. wasbanned Says:

    2008 92 catches for 904 yards
    2009 79 catches for 911 yards
    2010 30 catches for 398 yards

    last year was a down year for him on a Ravens team that struggles at QB and was a run heavy team with Ray Rice.

    If he gets back to 2009 type of play he will be the leading WR on this team.

    Name 1 of Oakland’s WR who has ever had that type of year?

  141. Method To My Madness Says:

    138.cheap college tuition Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:41 pm
    I see a lot of crying on this blog. We lost our starting QB, DMac is hurt and the only receiver that has done ANYTHING of late has been DHB.

    Carson should know TJ’s flow which will help with timing. You guys remember our offense PRIOR to HueJack?

    What are you guys crying about? You sound like whiner fans. They took a HUGE gamble on Palmer and it will either work out or it will not.

    ***********************

    You fool…our offense is fine…TJ will do nada but hurt the team

  142. RaiderSam Says:

    Zymurge Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:40 pm
    I think the WR to lose is Murphy. Anyone that thinks he has value in the NFL is simply over-valuing him through silver colored glasses as a Raiders player. Sure he lead the team in receiving, but with less than 50 and against no real competition the whole season. There’s a reason that the press anointed Ford the best WR on the team based on just a few games at the end of last season. DHB was still finding his game, Chaz was perpetually hurt, and Murphy was just a mediocre guy getting starters reps.

    =============================
    Murphy got hurt, then lost confidence and/or consistency….and he didnt have much consistency to begin with.

  143. DeuceDeuce Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:40 pm
    125.GoodOle00 Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:36 pm
    Oline:

    Really?! Six GOOD youngry WRs”?

    GOOD?!

    WHO?!

    I see a bunch of rookies and unproductive and unproven WRs.

    Talented perhaps but “good”?

    No way. Not yet…

    *****************

    TJ not good either

    —-

    neither is your mom’s vag but hey.. your uncle needs lovin too right…right?? alright.

  144. Method To My Madness Says:

    140.wasbanned Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:41 pm
    2008 92 catches for 904 yards
    2009 79 catches for 911 yards
    2010 30 catches for 398 yards

    last year was a down year for him on a Ravens team that struggles at QB and was a run heavy team with Ray Rice.

    If he gets back to 2009 type of play he will be the leading WR on this team.

    Name 1 of Oakland’s WR who has ever had that type of year?

    *******************

    withthe diva attitude that made ocho cinco look like a model citizen…dont forget that part

  145. Method To My Madness Says:

    143.DeuceDeuce Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:42 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:40 pm
    125.GoodOle00 Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:36 pm
    Oline:

    Really?! Six GOOD youngry WRs”?

    GOOD?!

    WHO?!

    I see a bunch of rookies and unproductive and unproven WRs.

    Talented perhaps but “good”?

    No way. Not yet…

    *****************

    TJ not good either

    —-

    neither is your mom’s vag but hey.. your uncle needs lovin too right…right?? alright.

    ************************

    DueceDumb that was lame as hell….mom jokes so outdated and played out….find some new material

  146. Method To My Madness Says:

    DueceDumb…why dont u come to a game and say that live to me?

  147. SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:

    cheap college tuition Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:41 pm

    What are you guys crying about? You sound like whiner fans. They took a HUGE gamble on Palmer and it will either work out or it will not.

    —————————————-

    Obviously it’s gonna work out or not. Nothing wrong with stating you’re leery over a move. Hell, it’s obvious you are just as leery as most of us if you’re hollering “HUGE gamble”. Cats is just venting….it’s a msg board…would much rather we talk about whats happening with the squad than talk about politics.

  148. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    Chazerella gets whacked for sure.

    Giadorno (sp?) or Tonga are on the bubble, for second cut to make room for Reese.

    If it’s Tonga I hope we can re-sign him to practice squad. I like him, and think he will only get better..

  149. ghostraiders Says:

    The sad truth is… we don’t have a legitimate go to wide receiver.. all our wide outs are really young and inexperienced to be clutch for us… housh. . Might be an upgrade for this season… but this season only…. cut glass schilens. .. Murphy actually has value and will be picked up by the gay niners if he’s released. .guaranteed. .

  150. DeuceDeuce Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:44 pm
    DueceDumb…why dont u come to a game and say that live to me?

    —-

    Was it pre-recorded?

  151. DeuceDeuce Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:44 pm
    DueceDumb…why dont u come to a game and say that live to me?

    —-

    You would get choked out in about 2 minutes man. I wouldnt have to throw 1 punch. bruh!

  152. Mr. T Says:

    Palmer throws 3 interceptions again I’m going to tie that punk into a knot. Meet me at a game! Any of you chumps!

  153. severeraiderz Says:

    I want Myers gone but I can see Hagan or Chaz getting cut. Ndukwe can take over as gunner and neither of those guys were a factor on offense.

  154. McRaider5150 Says:

    You really can’t compare the Raiders and niners. As much as I hate to admit it, they have a top notch D that is a huge part of the 6-1 records. Alex is only having to manage the game, not win it. Very similar to what hue had Jason doing before he got hurt. If we had a better D, we would also be 6-1.

  155. LA to TheBay Says:

    Not sure why so many are crying over this.

    An unproductive and/or marginal player will be cut to make room for TJ.

    TJ and Carson have experience together.

    At worst, TJ = our worst WR.

  156. Zymurge Says:

    You know that play that Palmer bounced off of Moore’s chest for an int against the Chefs? It was a quick hitting slant route, a play that the Raiders rarely run. Well, maybe it’s a strong suit for Palmer. It’s actually a really difficult throw to make, which may be why prior Raider QBs weren’t asked to do it.

    The point is that Palmer seems comfortable with it, based on it being one of the few plays that he learned. And if Housh and he can connect on that a few times a game, it’s a 5-8 yard gainer to help move the chains. But more importantly, being able to run an effective slant does two key things for an offense:
    - Sets up the deep routes down the side, when the WR takes a step inside to sell the slant and catches the CB leaning inside
    - Helps the running game a lot, since it freezes the LBs and forces the safety to play a little further off the LOS. That last thing a safety wants to see is an audible to a quick hitting slant where the WR catches it and angles behind the safety and takes it to the house. Anyone remember Higgins doing exactly that on the one accurate throw that JaWalrus ever made? It worked because they were facing 8 in the box.

  157. Mr. T Says:

    Of course we don’t have a legitimate wide receiver you fool look who’s been doing our drafting for the past half century? That’ll change next year. Hue’s throwing everything out, starting new. Guarantee you he takes a real possession WR in first round next year. You want to talk more meet me at a game I’ll put my foot so far up your ass it’ll come out of your mouth.

  158. SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:

    Severe – As many concussions as Boss has had in his career, we gotta hold on to Meyers. May not be explosive, but in an obvious very physical contact sport, he’s the only TE that can stay on the field 4 weeks in a row.

  159. JB Says:

    My guess is that Louis Murphy gets the axe to make room for Whoseyourmama. Murphy didn’t look all that great on the last game – he appeared slow and made little effort in going for the ball.

    NFL = Not for long.

  160. DeuceDeuce Says:

    Method To My Madness,

    Truce. You can keep keyboard assaulting me. Im done. Its just a good way to make the work day pass. Apologies for the dumb stuff i said.

    Off to Jits class.

  161. Plunder Says:

    #156

    Nice post, man.

  162. Mr. T Says:

    Bounced off his chest? Palmer throws 3 picks again my fist will bounce off his chest so hard he’ll cough up last week’s roast beef. Meet me at a game ugggggggggh!!!

  163. SC Says:

    From the Onion:

    Raiders Raiding the Cincinnati Bengals

    After a exhaustive search, the Raiders will name former head coach Marvin Lewis as there new GM. First order for Lewis, relocating that new Bengal stadium to Oakland.

  164. severeraiderz Says:

    Maybe I missed something but why would someone need to get cut to make room for Reece? As far as I know he is on the roster and I wasn’t aware of any exemption received since he has been injured.

  165. autopalm77 Says:

    Signing TJ is a good move….Tremendous upside with current Raiders receiving corps, however, just that…Route running is negligible and getting beaten at the LOS by physical cornerbacks totally disrupts the timing…Johnson probably goes to IR…TJ will have six receptions in his first game…Patience…..It’s a virtue…10-6 and very possible 11-5….:)……

  166. LA to TheBay Says:

    Anybody ever laugh at anything posted on the Onion?

    They’re supposed to be funny, right?

  167. Mr. T Says:

    I’m doing one handed push ups to the Miami Vice soundtrack right now and I’m telling you I can’t wait to meet one of you chumps at a game so I can crack your face bone like an old slice of toast.

  168. olinesux Says:

    No tj is not as good as our worst wr? If he catches a 5 yard pass it will be a four yard gain done. Every other wr on the team can turn it to a 15 -20 yard gain based on speed alone…

  169. SharkCatcher Says:

    If Mcfadden cant go we pick up Ickey Woods?

  170. Method To My Madness Says:

    151.DeuceDeuce Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:46 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:44 pm
    DueceDumb…why dont u come to a game and say that live to me?

    —-

    You would get choked out in about 2 minutes man. I wouldnt have to throw 1 punch. bruh!
    *********************

    HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA…please…you know better than that…I’ll beat ya ass so bad you will ofer your sister to me as an apology

  171. LA to TheBay Says:

    Mr. T Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:53 pm
    I’m doing one handed push ups to the Miami Vice soundtrack right now and I’m telling you I can’t wait to meet one of you chumps at a game so I can crack your face bone like an old slice of toast.

    ————–

    LOL. If this is MR, you have stepped your schtick up, cause this is actually funny.

  172. Mr. T Says:

    Onion’s been off its game the past couple of months. Have them subscribed on my facebook. You want to meet at a game I’ll hit you so hard you’ll look like you ate an onion.

  173. Cole Ford Says:

    Method, why do you have to be so mean to everyone? You must have some pretty big chip on your shoulder.

  174. SharkCatcher Says:

    Good Move siging Tj .How many catches does D.Moore have this season…2? lots of folks in here were trying to make him our #1 receiver based on camp tweets. lol

  175. Mr. T Says:

    I’ll choke you like a boa constrictor uggggghh meet me at a game chump meet me at a game go ahead!!!!!

  176. LA to TheBay Says:

    Cole Ford Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:54 pm
    Method, why do you have to be so mean to everyone? You must have some pretty big chip on your shoulder.

    B don’t like it when you insult ‘his guys.’

    Current list includes, but not limited to:

    -Henderson
    -Hagan
    -Tonga

  177. SharkCatcher Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:53 pm
    151.DeuceDeuce Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:46 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:44 pm
    DueceDumb…why dont u come to a game and say that live to me?

    —-

    You would get choked out in about 2 minutes man. I wouldnt have to throw 1 punch. bruh!
    *********************

    HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA…please…you know better than that…I’ll beat ya ass so bad you will ofer your sister to me as an apology
    —————–
    Internet tough guys on the next Geraldo.

  178. Cole Ford Says:

    Mr. T, can I be your sidekick? I’ll stand behind you and yell names at your victims while you kick the sh*t out of them. Of course, I’ll get an occasional kick to the stomach in there.

  179. The Realist Dirty Raccoon Says:

    Mr. T Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:46 pm
    Palmer throws 3 interceptions again I’m going to tie that punk into a knot. Meet me at a game! Any of you chumps!

    ::::::::::

    Try again Scotty.

  180. raidertay Says:

    Jus got my tix for the Broncos. Im juiced. The Raiders BETTER show up.

  181. Mr. T Says:

    Number one Raiders receiver last week was wearing Chiefs jersey. Ooooh man I can’t wait to meet one of you chumps at a game so I can roundhouse you against a trash dumpster.

  182. Mr. T Says:

    Be my sidekick? You’ll wash my spandex pants and my muscle shirt? Rub my muscles down after a long day of cutting trees? Hell yeah.

  183. SharkCatcher Says:

    I pity ya moms!~

  184. raiderjhawk Says:

    We better kill the bronc-ho’s on Sunday…

    Method, If there were to be a year where the Tigers beat the Hawks it’s this one… three of our new guys got declared ineligible. I still don’t think it’ll happen though, we own them in b-ball.

  185. LA to TheBay Says:

    Mr. T Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:57 pm
    Number one Raiders receiver last week was wearing Chiefs jersey. Ooooh man I can’t wait to meet one of you chumps at a game so I can roundhouse you against a trash dumpster.

    ————–

    Only funny if you read it with a Mr T voice, lol.

  186. JB Says:

    Zymurge Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:48 pm

    You know that play that Palmer bounced off of Moore’s chest for an int against the Chefs? It was a quick hitting slant route, a play that the Raiders rarely run. Well, maybe it’s a strong suit for Palmer. It’s actually a really difficult throw to make, which may be why prior Raider QBs weren’t asked to do it.

    The point is that Palmer seems comfortable with it, based on it being one of the few plays that he learned. And if Housh and he can connect on that a few times a game, it’s a 5-8 yard gainer to help move the chains. But more importantly, being able to run an effective slant does two key things for an offense:
    - Sets up the deep routes down the side, when the WR takes a step inside to sell the slant and catches the CB leaning inside
    - Helps the running game a lot, since it freezes the LBs and forces the safety to play a little further off the LOS. That last thing a safety wants to see is an audible to a quick hitting slant where the WR catches it and angles behind the safety and takes it to the house. Anyone remember Higgins doing exactly that on the one accurate throw that JaWalrus ever made? It worked because they were facing 8 in the box.
    **********************

    Good points – all. With Palmer, we are going to see a lot of precise passes that we haven’t see in eons or ever. The reason elite QB’s have more INT’s than other QB’s is that they are making throws into coverage that normal QB’s won’t even attempt. Of course with the increased INT’s you will also see increased TD’s. Our WR’s are going to have to understand that if the ball hits you in the hands, you better damn well catch it. Additionally, instead of looping type passes they’ve seen from Soup, they will now be seeing zingers on a string. To some extent, our WR’s are going to be going through a culture shock in seeing passes they’ve never seen before. Palmer will be throwing at spots before the WR even makes a break so their patterns better be spot on. Precision route running will now have to be a priority but this is something that will come with hard work and LOTS OF PRACTICE.

  187. SharkCatcher Says:

    Cole Ford Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:56 pm
    Mr. T, can I be your sidekick? I’ll stand behind you and yell names at your victims while you kick the sh*t out of them. Of course, I’ll get an occasional kick to the stomach in there.

    —————–
    Bobby the Brain Henan

  188. severeraiderz Says:

    Bleeder

    Id rather roll with Ausberry and Gordon and get rid of Myers. Ausberry has been a better blocker than expected and is a great pass catcher. Gordon is a monster blocker and has shown the ability to catch passes.

  189. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    Zymurge….#156..

    Spot on..

    Whosyourmama, will be CP3’s security blanket. They have a trust in each other that can be effective immediately..

    I suggest we call TJH, Linus. It’s easier to spell….

  190. raiderinparadise Says:

    Who gets cut?

    Hagan? Meyers? Cooper!? Tonga?

  191. Cole Ford Says:

    Mr. T, can we take out these mother f*ckers first!

    http://www.amoeba.com/dynamic-images/blog/Sarah/siegfried-harriet-roy.JPG

  192. SharkCatcher Says:

    Myers has no moves after the catch.None.

  193. raidertay Says:

    I think that TJ should replace Chaz. He’s too fragile to be relied upon in the long run.

  194. Mr. T Says:

    I met Bobby the Brain at the Garden during the first Wrestlemania. Hey did you know that schit was fake? No wonder they were upset with me afterward.

  195. Twocents Says:

    I don’t care who is on the roster as long as we win our next five games. Just win Hue.

  196. Method To My Madness Says:

    177.SharkCatcher Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:56 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:53 pm
    151.DeuceDeuce Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:46 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:44 pm
    DueceDumb…why dont u come to a game and say that live to me?

    —-

    You would get choked out in about 2 minutes man. I wouldnt have to throw 1 punch. bruh!
    *********************

    HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA…please…you know better than that…I’ll beat ya ass so bad you will ofer your sister to me as an apology
    —————–
    Internet tough guys on the next Geraldo.

    *****************************

    Yawwwwnnn C*ckCatcher…put your jaws to work again on the next Hermaphrodite

  197. raiderjhawk Says:

    SharkCatcher,

    Did you watch the Jets vs. Raiders game? D-Mo’s td in that game is the coolest of the season in my opinion. I don’t think people wanted him as our #1 because of camp tweets. He’s a stud, the D had to start paying more attention to him after the Jets game.

  198. LA to TheBay Says:

    What a weird day in here.

    Later.

    Be good.

  199. Mr. T Says:

    Theres somebody in here right now named bleeder? I’ve seen it all. Anyone of you can take that name too if you just want to meet me at a game. I’ll hit you so hard your clothes will bleed.

  200. SharkCatcher Says:

    whats up with rampage jackson playing you in the movie a-team.sorry!

  201. Cole Ford Says:

    Damn, I looked good back in the day:

    http://content.usatoday.com/life/_photos/2004/11/23/inside-ford.jpg

  202. JR77 Says:

    F u guys who think this is a bad signing. Talking about this will take away plays and stunt the growth from our good “young” WR’s. F that, what has any WR done other than DHB? zilch, nada, squat, a few measly catches from Hagan, Glass & Murphy. Those guys are dead weight. Moore, Ford and DHB are here to stay and this move will only bolster their development if anything. The other 3 I mentioned for some reason some of you guys are all on their b@ll s@cks.

    The comment about Hue giving his buddies jobs before he ditches us is a one of the dumbest most asinine posts I have ever read. What a weasel you are.

  203. Method To My Madness Says:

    173.Cole Ford Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:54 pm
    Method, why do you have to be so mean to everyone? You must have some pretty big chip on your shoulder.

    ******************

    I’m not mean to everyone…Mista…RRS…Plunk…Dell..Norco bob the Great…THec…Nothing bothers Jhill….860TC…Chris in NY…SnB…..I mean come on bruh….did you always “miss” wide left or right? Never can get it in the space eh? Figures

  204. djohnnyg Says:

    NFLNetwork Fan Poll Results.

    Who is the favorite to win the Afc West?:

    -Chiefs 9%
    -Raiders 60%
    -Chargers 31%

    There really IS a Raider Nation out there.

  205. SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:

    188.severeraiderz Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 4:00 pm
    Bleeder

    Id rather roll with Ausberry and Gordon and get rid of Myers. Ausberry has been a better blocker than expected and is a great pass catcher. Gordon is a monster blocker and has shown the ability to catch passes.

    ———————

    I’m an Ausberry fan too, but he’s a rook still getting his feet wet to a position he never played in college. And I like Gordon, but dude can’t stay on the field himself either. Like any Raider fan, I want Kevin Boss out there over Meyers, but if Boss is out (which he has been more than a few times due to “nicks”) we need to know we have a TE we can rely on. Meyers may not have any playmaking ability, but he’ll stay on the field and suffice as a backup.

  206. Method To My Madness Says:

    202.JR77 Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 4:03 pm
    F u guys who think this is a bad signing. Talking about this will take away plays and stunt the growth from our good “young” WR’s. F that, what has any WR done other than DHB? zilch, nada, squat, a few measly catches from Hagan, Glass & Murphy. Those guys are dead weight. Moore, Ford and DHB are here to stay and this move will only bolster their development if anything. The other 3 I mentioned for some reason some of you guys are all on their b@ll s@cks.

    The comment about Hue giving his buddies jobs before he ditches us is a one of the dumbest most asinine posts I have ever read. What a weasel you are.

    *****************

    Your dead weight to the human race…..so help us all and jump over the bridge with weights on your ankles…thanks in advance

  207. Cole Ford Says:

    I’m willing to bet that one of you fools had a pair of Raider Zubaz pants at one point:

    http://michaelmayton.com/wp-content/images/zubaz.jpg

  208. Mr. T Says:

    Sign me as receiver! I’ll go right up the middle every play. They’ll find Ed Reed’s helmet on the field after the game, with his head in it!

  209. raiderjhawk Says:

    JR77, Congratulations you just won the I can’t read correctly award of the day! Now go back and read my post again… idiot.

  210. The Realist Dirty Raccoon Says:

    Everett Brown in for a workout

  211. djohnnyg Says:

    Raider Fan Blog Results to win the West:

    -Chiefs 60%
    -Chargers 39%
    -Raiders 1%

    …maybe it just seems that way.

  212. Method To My Madness Says:

    188.severeraiderz Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 4:00 pm
    Bleeder

    Id rather roll with Ausberry and Gordon and get rid of Myers. Ausberry has been a better blocker than expected and is a great pass catcher. Gordon is a monster blocker and has shown the ability to catch passes.

    ************************

    Get rid of Meyers? Whoa…if Boss is down I trust Meyers more than the rooks

  213. SharkCatcher Says:

    raiderjhawk Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 4:02 pm
    SharkCatcher,

    SharkCatcher,

    Did you watch the Jets vs. Raiders game? D-Mo’s td in that game is the coolest of the season in my opinion. I don’t think people wanted him as our #1
    ————————-
    that was a trick running play…Ive only seen him make two great catches this season.( needs time to develop)In the same point though I dont think Jacoby ford has no buisness being a 1-2 receiver on this team .

  214. BigTed707 Says:

    Nice to see Hue is focused on the next opponent.

    I miss AL.

  215. Mr. T Says:

    I got a pair of those zubas. What you got a problem with it? I need that extra space down there if you know what I mean. But you wouldn’t know anything about that would you pee wee? Meet me at a game pee wee.

  216. raiderjhawk Says:

    Talkin’ about people being on WR’s nutsacks. Sounds like your already on Housh’s and he hasn’t even done anything yet.

    Why is it again that no one else wanted him?

  217. raiderinparadise Says:

    The Oakland Bengals. Nice job Hue LoL. In all seriousness, the TJ signing is logical. The Curry signing was great. And the Palmer signing was a reach in desperation. The Lito signing was logical as well. Let’s just hope Hue gets his play calling back to how it was in the “Campbell Era” lol

  218. SharkCatcher Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 4:02 pm
    177.SharkCatcher Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:56 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:53 pm
    151.DeuceDeuce Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:46 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:44 pm
    DueceDumb…why dont u come to a game and say that live to me?

    —-

    You would get choked out in about 2 minutes man. I wouldnt have to throw 1 punch. bruh!
    *********************

    HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA…please…you know better than that…I’ll beat ya ass so bad you will ofer your sister to me as an apology
    —————–
    Internet tough guys on the next Geraldo.

    *****************************

    Yawwwwnnn C*ckCatcher…put your jaws to work again on the next Hermaphrodite


    thats whats hot ont he streets ? beating people up cause of what they said on the internet..lol..yea ..real mature.

  219. djohnnyg Says:

    Now Carson has a receiver (cheap) he can bail out too. Palmer is coming into a situation where familiarity and timing, rythym, etc. etc. is really important.

    It can’t hurt to have someone in there he has some connection with.

    You guys will be happy when Housh makes some big third down catches.

  220. Twocents Says:

    Screw development, I’m with Al, win now. There is only this season, next year we could all be dead.

  221. Method To My Madness Says:

    214.BigTed707 Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 4:07 pm
    Nice to see Hue is focused on the next opponent.

    I miss AL.

    ************

    Man

  222. ravenaider Says:

    Experience is the best teacher for these young receivers.The guy is a fearless warrior on the gridiron.I can’t see why the RAIDER NATION isn’t on board with this move.

    After DHB,who else has stepped up and has asserted himself at WR?

    Now the only issue is WHO GOES? I say get rid of one of those TE’s or drop Boller’s “worthless @$$” If Palmer gets hurt we are doomed anyway with Boller as the #2.

  223. SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:

    212.Method To My Madness Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 4:07 pm
    188.severeraiderz Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 4:00 pm
    Bleeder

    Id rather roll with Ausberry and Gordon and get rid of Myers. Ausberry has been a better blocker than expected and is a great pass catcher. Gordon is a monster blocker and has shown the ability to catch passes.

    ************************

    Get rid of Meyers? Whoa…if Boss is down I trust Meyers more than the rooks

    ——————————

    Glad to see someone else notices that Meyers seems to be the only TE that can stay on the field. Yeah, he’s slow, but Hue doesn’t have to worry about him coming out after cracking a few heads on blocks. We all want Boss out there, but we need soldiers when our best go down, and Meyers is a soldier.

  224. Will D Says:

    I liked Hue Jackson as a coach. He is killing this team making personal decisions. Back to the basement. We can’t win with Palmer and T.J. Both of those guys are washed up. And to think, we gave a first and second round pick for Palmer. o much for building through the draft.

    We miss you Al! No really we do…

  225. Method To My Madness Says:

    218.SharkCatcher Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 4:09 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 4:02 pm
    177.SharkCatcher Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:56 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:53 pm
    151.DeuceDeuce Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:46 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:44 pm
    DueceDumb…why dont u come to a game and say that live to me?

    —-

    You would get choked out in about 2 minutes man. I wouldnt have to throw 1 punch. bruh!
    *********************

    HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA…please…you know better than that…I’ll beat ya ass so bad you will ofer your sister to me as an apology
    —————–
    Internet tough guys on the next Geraldo.

    *****************************

    Yawwwwnnn C*ckCatcher…put your jaws to work again on the next Hermaphrodite


    thats whats hot ont he streets ? beating people up cause of what they said on the internet..lol..yea ..real mature.

    *********************

    surely i care about maturity

  226. SharkCatcher Says:

    raiderjhawk Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 4:08 pm
    Talkin’ about people being on WR’s nutsacks. Sounds like your already on Housh’s and he hasn’t even done anything yet.

    Why is it again that no one else wanted him?

    ———————————
    Don’t now about all that ..Prediction tj ends up with more catches that Moore this season.

  227. JR77 Says:

    raiderjhawk Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 4:06 pm

    JR77, Congratulations you just won the I can’t read correctly award of the day! Now go back and read my post again… idiot.

    =====================================================

    Why are you back pedaling all of a sudden, what is there to misread…you said what you said out of pure retardedness

  228. Method To My Madness Says:

    223.SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 4:11 pm
    212.Method To My Madness Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 4:07 pm
    188.severeraiderz Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 4:00 pm
    Bleeder

    Id rather roll with Ausberry and Gordon and get rid of Myers. Ausberry has been a better blocker than expected and is a great pass catcher. Gordon is a monster blocker and has shown the ability to catch passes.

    ************************

    Get rid of Meyers? Whoa…if Boss is down I trust Meyers more than the rooks

    ——————————

    Glad to see someone else notices that Meyers seems to be the only TE that can stay on the field. Yeah, he’s slow, but Hue doesn’t have to worry about him coming out after cracking a few heads on blocks. We all want Boss out there, but we need soldiers when our best go down, and Meyers is a soldier.

    ****************

    I do my best

  229. SharkCatcher Says:

    are you going to beat me up too–come to my house f8ck my wife and kick my dog…?

  230. Will D Says:

    Remember the big drop TJ had in the playoffs against Pittsburgh. He catches the TD, Ravens win.

  231. Mr. T Says:

    They called Raiders the Oakland 49ers back when Rice and Garner were here. What, did you think Al kidnapped them off the coast of Ghana?

  232. SharkCatcher Says:

    I think if we all had a choice we all take Jason Campbell.

  233. SharkCatcher Says:

    have no idea how this whole Carson thing will pan out

  234. Method To My Madness Says:

    229.SharkCatcher Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 4:12 pm
    are you going to beat me up too–come to my house f8ck my wife and kick my dog…?

    *************

    I dont dig animal violence…did i say i wanted to fight ya? I have no intention to fk your hubby

  235. Mr. T Says:

    You miss Al Davis? I miss Jon Gruden!

  236. raiderinparadise Says:

    I miss Jason Campbell dearly. LoL.

  237. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    Other than a Raiders win, nothing related to football makes ne happier, than watching another Charger meltdown on national tv. Better yet, it was that punk ass Rivers as the culprit…

  238. ravenaider Says:

    JR77 Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 4:03 pm
    F u guys who think this is a bad signing. Talking about this will take away plays and stunt the growth from our good “young” WR’s. F that, what has any WR done other than DHB? zilch, nada, squat, a few measly catches from Hagan, Glass & Murphy. Those guys are dead weight. Moore, Ford and DHB are here to stay and this move will only bolster their development if anything. The other 3 I mentioned for some reason some of you guys are all on their b@ll s@cks.

    The comment about Hue giving his buddies jobs before he ditches us is a one of the dumbest most asinine posts I have ever read. What a weasel you are.
    ——————————————————

    AMEN,MY COMRADE!!!!

  239. SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:

    Shark – TJ is a Raider now, so my Blood has made it no choice that I pull for him, but you’re tripping out for real if you think TJ will have more catches than Moore at the end of the season. Don’t see it..

  240. JR77 Says:

    Your dead weight to the human race…..so help us all and jump over the bridge with weights on your ankles…thanks in advance
    =================================================

    I see your a little sensitive since one of your favorite non-productive NEVER WAS WR’s is about to get the AXE!!!

    It’s ok you will get over it when you see some winning raiders football with a semblance of a passing attack.

    Maybe you will not get over it, go console your never was buddies by doing some more nibbling on their b@ll s@cks

  241. raiderinparadise Says:

    If Palmer doesn’t work out or gets hurt. our season is over and re-building all over again. Hue lives on the edge, but he needs to climb the mountain now.

  242. Cole Ford Says:

    I’m the luckiest man. My girl just texted me this pic. She’s waiting for me to get out of prison. Thank god for conjugal visits.

    http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/528/490/7blakcnblue_display_image.jpg?1290962740

  243. Plunder Says:

    We don’t rebuild, we reload.

    -Al

  244. BigTed707 Says:

    IR CJ37 for Lito –
    Cut Hagan, Murph, or Schillens for Housh?

    I hope they don’t cut Murphy.

  245. SharkCatcher Says:

    SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 4:15 pm
    Shark – TJ is a Raider now, so my Blood has made it no choice that I pull for him, but you’re tripping out for real if you think TJ will have more catches than Moore at the end of the season. Don’t see it..

    ———–
    how mnay catches does Moore have 15?

  246. Mr. T Says:

    Hue probably wants to move the team to L.A. and Mark doesn’t want to. So Hue wants to leave now. I’ll bet you. God dammit my Raiders are cursed. I’m so sad right now I don’t even want to crush anyone’s face in. Nap time for Mr. T.

  247. SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:

    Ted – Poor Hagan will probably be the unlucky one. Dude can’t get a break wherever he goes, yet he rarely drops the ball and runs good routes (will admit he’s not fast), but he’s reliable.

  248. severeraiderz Says:

    Brien

    Trust Myers to do what exactly? Certainly not make a play or positively affect the outcome of the game. He is a bum, much like you trust Tonga, a guy who is pretty much a rookie, at FB…… I trust Ausberry and Gordon as a tandem to hold down the TE position if and when Boss is hurt again

  249. Method To My Madness Says:

    240.JR77 Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 4:15 pm
    Your dead weight to the human race…..so help us all and jump over the bridge with weights on your ankles…thanks in advance
    =================================================

    I see your a little sensitive since one of your favorite non-productive NEVER WAS WR’s is about to get the AXE!!!

    It’s ok you will get over it when you see some winning raiders football with a semblance of a passing attack.

    Maybe you will not get over it, go console your never was buddies by doing some more nibbling on their b@ll s@cks

    ************************

    Ha Hagan wasnt productive? Yeah you were too busy going down on your hubby instead of watching the games i see

  250. ravenaider Says:

    Will D Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 4:12 pm
    Remember the big drop TJ had in the playoffs against Pittsburgh. He catches the TD, Ravens win.
    —————————————————–

    Just to correct you…if he had made the catch it would have been a 1st down.It was a short out route on the sidelines,dropped it as he was going to his knees.Ravens still had a good 40 yds to go to score

  251. raiderjhawk Says:

    JR77, What part of me saying “Why does it feel like?” didn’t you understand? I’m not backpedaling a bit.

    Hue sold the farm for Palmer, and just signed Ndukwe and Housh. Palmer was sitting at home not collecting a paycheck and Ndukwe and Housh were unemployed. These guys all used to be Bengals and now they are all proud members of the Silver and Black.

    I just hope this stuff don’t bite us in the rear, that’s all.

  252. TerrapinRaider Says:

    I don’t really like the Housh move. All it takes is one bad apple to ruin the bunch and create more “me’s”

  253. Method To My Madness Says:

    240.JR77 Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 4:15 pm
    Your dead weight to the human race…..so help us all and jump over the bridge with weights on your ankles…thanks in advance
    =================================================

    I see your a little sensitive since one of your favorite non-productive NEVER WAS WR’s is about to get the AXE!!!

    It’s ok you will get over it when you see some winning raiders football with a semblance of a passing attack.

    Maybe you will not get over it, go console your never was buddies by doing some more nibbling on their b@ll s@cks

    ***************

    And dumb phaggot the Raider pass offense was just fine this year

  254. SharkCatcher Says:

    Ive seen some things from Tonga that make him worth something ( when he laid out Brian Cushing -that’s a glimpse) Myers..name one play where you said “damn” ( best play-special teams forced fumble during the Cooper memorial game)

  255. SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:

    Shark – He has 11 right now…but scratch those; I’m not even counting that 11. I’m saying from here on out, I don’t see TJ having more catches than Moore by season’s end. I think Hue is bringing him in to give him a comfortable check down option in the slot when we go 4 wide. I don’t even think TJ sees the field in our 3 WR sets. At least, I don’t think he should for the first couple of weeks. Gotta earn your way on the field bruh…

  256. TerrapinRaider Says:

    At least publically these WRs work as a team, no me me me – everyone does their part. I don’t want that to change and hear any complaining.

  257. SharkCatcher Says:

    TerrapinRaider Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 4:20 pm
    I don’t really like the Housh move. All it takes is one bad apple to ruin the bunch and create more “me’s”

    —————–]
    iVE HEARD HES NO A DIVA WR–MORE OF A RAH RAH LOCKER ROOM GUY-

  258. Method To My Madness Says:

    248.severeraiderz Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 4:18 pm
    Brien

    Trust Myers to do what exactly? Certainly not make a play or positively affect the outcome of the game. He is a bum, much like you trust Tonga, a guy who is pretty much a rookie, at FB…… I trust Ausberry and Gordon as a tandem to hold down the TE position if and when Boss is hurt again

    ************************

    Meyers better than those rookies…im sorry just facts…ausberry cant block lol and gordon aint enough of a pass catcher

  259. BigTed707 Says:

    Hue better start getting ready to whoop the Donkeys.
    I don’t want to see the Raiders get torn apart by Tim TeaBag because they weren’t focused!

  260. Method To My Madness Says:

    254.SharkCatcher Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 4:20 pm
    Ive seen some things from Tonga that make him worth something ( when he laid out Brian Cushing -that’s a glimpse) Myers..name one play where you said “damn” ( best play-special teams forced fumble during the Cooper memorial game)

    ********************
    Meyers can block and you remember the chiefs game last year? thanks

  261. SharkCatcher Says:

    SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 4:21 pm
    Shark – He has 11 right now…but scratch those; I’m not even counting that 11. I’m saying from here on out, I don’t see TJ having more catches than Moore by season’s end. I think Hue is bringing him in to give him a comfortable check down option in the slot when we go 4 wide. I don’t even think TJ sees the field in our 3 WR sets. At least, I don’t think he should for the first couple of weeks. Gotta earn your way on the field bruh
    ———————-
    Prediction ; Tj Will start at #3 by the Chargers game-

  262. raiderjhawk Says:

    Alright fellows, I’m outta here.

    Bronco’s SUCK!

  263. The Realist Dirty Raccoon Says:

    Lorenzo Neil and Ickey Woods gonna be at practice this week

  264. J Hill Says:

    He is killing this team making personal decisions.

    —————————————————-

    Really????

    Curry and Ndukwe are excellent additions.

    Hous is signed for the vet minimum.

    One extra first round pick for a QB prospect like Carson Palmer is no big deal. Surely you recognize that he was worth at least ONE first or 2nd. So you’re really beefing about one draft pick.

    The moves Hue has made has without qu

  265. SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:

    The point is, with Meyers you might not see a lot of “damn” plays, but you won’t see plays where you’re like “Meyers what the F were you doing on that play?” Maybe after he catches the ball, ’cause he’s slow, Lol, but he doesn’t make mistakes like the other TEs do, and he STAYS on the field. All our other TEs haven’t proven they can make it thru a couple NFL games in a row yet, so lets let them earn their stripes first. Meyers deserves to be the first backup. Yea, there are potential explosive playmakers behind him on the depth chart, but they’re young, fragile, and haven’t gotten there yet. It’ll come in due time, but Meyers is our #2 right now behind the obviouse #1 Boss.

  266. SharkCatcher Says:

    -One or two of these guys will have to go -next year

    Murphy- Ford – Shillens

    too deep.

  267. hwnrdr Says:

    Wow…TJ must have did something to earn this roster spot…I thought Hue said ONLY if he shows me something…maybe a compromising pic of Hue’s wife?

  268. daraider09 Says:

    J Hill Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 4:25 pm
    He is killing this team making personal decisions.

    —————————————————-

    Really????

    Curry and Ndukwe are excellent additions.

    Hous is signed for the vet minimum.

    One extra first round pick for a QB prospect like Carson Palmer is no big deal. Surely you recognize that he was worth at least ONE first or 2nd. So you’re really beefing about one draft pick.

    The moves Hue has made has without qu
    *************************************

    there is no way to spin the carson trade as positive, unless he takes AT LEAST to one AFC Championship game in the next 2 seasons. If not it is a complete failure. Gave up way too much. Simple.

  269. Dstomp Says:

    raiderjhawk Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:28 pm

    I’ve been on the wagon my whole life, I don’t ever get off the Raider wagon. I bleed Raiders.

    I just think Hue is getting drunk with power, sue me. Half these moves wouldn’t have floated when Al was alive, believe that. I can make a list right after I eat if you’d like.
    ***********************
    How can anyway say “Al wouldn’t have done this” or “If Al was alive this sh!t wouldn’t fly”…… give me a break, Al made plenty of crazy moves that backed fired. Don’t pass judgment until we play a game….. If the Raiders come out against the donks and throw for 300 yards and Tj catches two TD’s and we roll you chumps will be talking about how great Hue is. Stupid

  270. RaiderDebo Says:

    Murphy is pretty much another Hagan. A veteran WR that might bounce around training camps and make a team as the #5 or #6 for depth. I’d say that pretty much every team in the NFL has a comparable talent to Murphy as their #5 and some might even have a #6 that he doesn’t beat out.

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Hilarious! Your’re probably right. The scary thing is that he STARTED as a rookie in 2009 alongside DHB in his 1st year. We’ve sucked at WR for years now. Poor Jamarcus.

  271. JR77 Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 4:20 pm

    240.JR77 Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 4:15 pm
    Your dead weight to the human race…..so help us all and jump over the bridge with weights on your ankles…thanks in advance
    =================================================

    I see your a little sensitive since one of your favorite non-productive NEVER WAS WR’s is about to get the AXE!!!

    It’s ok you will get over it when you see some winning raiders football with a semblance of a passing attack.

    Maybe you will not get over it, go console your never was buddies by doing some more nibbling on their b@ll s@cks

    ***************

    And dumb phaggot the Raider pass offense was just fine this year
    ================

    Go console your f buddies chazarella and Hagan, although Hagan will be no. 7 on the depth chart now, glass is gone, I bet you think his phagHawk is hot. Are you Tom Cable’s b*tch? you thought 8-8 was a successful season. I hope you dont play fantasy football, you couldnt tell what a good player is if your pathetic life depended on it you pillow biter

  272. SharkCatcher Says:

    I would give up a number one draft pick every year just to get into the playoffs.Wouldnt you ?

  273. omniscience Says:

    Housh has had 100 + catch season with Palmer in the slot is a vet cant see where it hurts our team can show our young guys a few things im sure.

    Would put Gordon on IR has a broken hand.

  274. M Lonetree Says:

    “Houshmandzadeh!” – that which is said by herders in the Zagros Mountains when a goat is bitten by a poisonous snake.

  275. raiderinparadise Says:

    The Oakland Bengals:

    Palmer … QB
    TJ … WR
    Blackstock … LB
    Ndukwe … S
    Bresnahan … D Coordinator
    Jackson … Head Coach

  276. McRaider5150 Says:

    hugh jackson is in al davis clone. he is making moves that al davis may be back before 2004. only recently had al davis not veteran players that a 30 + years old . hugh jackman keep doing what you doing you have nothing to lose. we have been mediocre for too long .

  277. Zymurge Says:

    No tj is not as good as our worst wr? If he catches a 5 yard pass it will be a four yard gain done. Every other wr on the team can turn it to a 15 -20 yard gain based on speed alone…

    Yeah, but first you have to have the moves and savvy to sell the coverage to get open on the slant. The you have to have the cajones to go over the middle into LB and head hunting safety territory. Then there’s one other thing you gotta do — catch the ball.

    Fail on any of those and it doesn’t matter how fast you can run. That’s why they call it run after CATCH.

    Put another way, if the young little speedsters Ford and Moore were getting it done this season as the Pro Bowlers that we all want them to be, then we wouldn’t even be talking about Housh right now. Until they find that they can make these plays routinely and not get scarred for life about going over the middle after the first good hit (see: Murphy, Louis) then we can talk about how dangerous they are with RAC.

    In the meantime, I’m happy to have a guy that can make these plays on 3rd and 5 and get just enough yards to move the chains. Then it’s DMac off tackle on 1st down, and try something with big yard potential for one of the speedsters on 2nd and 5. If that doesn’t work, back comes Housh onto the field in the 3 WR set. Rinse. Lather. Repeat. Score. Win.

  278. hwnrdr Says:

    M! What’s up man? Long time…

  279. SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:

    261.SharkCatcher Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 4:24 pm
    SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 4:21 pm
    Shark – He has 11 right now…but scratch those; I’m not even counting that 11. I’m saying from here on out, I don’t see TJ having more catches than Moore by season’s end. I think Hue is bringing him in to give him a comfortable check down option in the slot when we go 4 wide. I don’t even think TJ sees the field in our 3 WR sets. At least, I don’t think he should for the first couple of weeks. Gotta earn your way on the field bruh
    ———————-
    Prediction ; Tj Will start at #3 by the Chargers game-

    ——————————

    If he is, Hue is really trippin’ out! I don’t see it bruh…he’ll be out there in our 4 WR sets, but Hue will start to lose the locker room for sure if he’s starting at the #3 WR spot by next week. Top 3 are DHB, Moore (interchangable with Schilens) and Ford. Yea, they’ve underachieved thus far, but still can’t see the 34 year old Housh cracking that in a week.

  280. SharkCatcher Says:

    4 players out of 53? Raiders son! get out of here with that Bengals sh8t

  281. Mr. T Says:

    Now this is me with Cole Ford out in Texas…

    I love you Brother…. Giddy up horsey! Ride ‘em cowboy!.

    http://www.dba-oracle.com/images/redneck_mentor.jpg

  282. M Lonetree Says:

    Aloha Hwnrdr,

    I spent the past month+ roaming in the desert. Abundant silence and sunshine.
    How’s life with yourself?

  283. Will D Says:

    Ravenaider.

    Not to dispute you, but i thought he dropped a touchdown also? I can be wrong. Still don’t thnk we need him.

  284. SharkCatcher Says:

    I wonder which of our home grown talent wr’s will become CARSONS favorite target

  285. Method To My Madness Says:

    271.JR77 Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 4:27 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 4:20 pm

    240.JR77 Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 4:15 pm
    Your dead weight to the human race…..so help us all and jump over the bridge with weights on your ankles…thanks in advance
    =================================================

    I see your a little sensitive since one of your favorite non-productive NEVER WAS WR’s is about to get the AXE!!!

    It’s ok you will get over it when you see some winning raiders football with a semblance of a passing attack.

    Maybe you will not get over it, go console your never was buddies by doing some more nibbling on their b@ll s@cks

    ***************

    And dumb phaggot the Raider pass offense was just fine this year
    ================

    Go console your f buddies chazarella and Hagan, although Hagan will be no. 7 on the depth chart now, glass is gone, I bet you think his phagHawk is hot. Are you Tom Cable’s b*tch? you thought 8-8 was a successful season. I hope you dont play fantasy football, you couldnt tell what a good player is if your pathetic life depended on it you pillow biter

    ******************

    Only a shriveled wneeie would say I’m a Tom Cable guy…have you ever read this blog u stupid phaggot? 8-8 successful?…you’re a newbie dummy and ask anyone on this blog i blasted cable over that!

    I dont dig chaz either stupid…but hagan gets first downs…do you know what those are you bend over betty drag queen btch?

  286. r8eray Says:

    LMFAO……. you guys are too much!!!

    ————————–

    Mr. T Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 4:31 pm
    Now this is me with Cole Ford out in Texas…

    I love you Brother…. Giddy up horsey! Ride ‘em cowboy!.

    http://www.dba-oracle.com/images/redneck_mentor.jpg

  287. hwnrdr Says:

    Hey guys, relax and see what happens…after all, none of us know what will play out! So Hue brought in vets he thinks will help…if it does work out…mo one will be squaking then! Just relax until wee see it for sure!!!

  288. M Lonetree Says:

    “Lito sheppard” – a spanglish-speaking young herder in the Sierra Madre.

  289. Method To My Madness Says:

    GayR77 is too busy with a 49er sponsored dildo up his chute to know anything about football

  290. JR77 Says:

    No tj is not as good as our worst wr? If he catches a 5 yard pass it will be a four yard gain done. Every other wr on the team can turn it to a 15 -20 yard gain based on speed alone…

    ===================

    Who other than DHB has had any YACs, only the designed play to glass in the houston game which I attended, one of his 7 catches for 65 yards this year. A whopping 1 catch for 9 yards per game.

  291. raiderinparadise Says:

    SharkCatcher Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 4:30 pm
    4 players out of 53? Raiders son! get out of here with that Bengals sh8t

    *************************

    It was a joke, a little sensitive? or just dumb? Prob both.

  292. hwnrdr Says:

    M Lonetree Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 4:31 pm
    Aloha Hwnrdr,

    I spent the past month+ roaming in the desert. Abundant silence and sunshine.
    How’s life with yourself?

    Been good bro…just working and paying these darn bills!!! LOL…but hey, that’s life…

  293. Zymurge Says:

    The Oakland Bengals:

    Palmer … QB
    TJ … WR
    Blackstock … LB
    Ndukwe … S
    Bresnahan … D Coordinator
    Jackson … Head Coach

    They’re just trying to get some love from Boomer when he calls their games.

    And for the record, at least Bres was a Raider before he was a Bengal, so this is really just getting him back from a multi-year lease.

  294. Plunder Says:

    Why are people still talking about Tom F’ing Cable?

    Dude is over in Seattle with his LG and TE friends sucking it up.

    Offensive line guru FOR SURE!

  295. SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:

    daraider09 Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 4:27 pm

    there is no way to spin the carson trade as positive, unless he takes AT LEAST to one AFC Championship game in the next 2 seasons. If not it is a complete failure. Gave up way too much. Simple.

    ——————–

    Well said. Every Raider fan has to determine what makes that trade worth it all, and I’m the same way. We gotta get to a AFC championship within the next three years and need to at least be in the playoffs for the next three off top…No way to grade the trade until the near future is our past so really no point in debating it anymore. We’ll know our answer soon enough. I will admit it was a big move in maintaining the momentum we built early in the year and giving us a chance this year, but whether it was the right move remains to be seen.

  296. J Hill Says:

    Boyd was terrible. Got beat week in and week out. Giordano should not be on the field getting as mnay snaps as he had been getting.

    Ndukwe was a DAMN good signing.

    Aaron Curry for a 7th and 5th???? Anyone questioning that move obviously has not watched the last 2 games. CLEARLY an upgrade to Groves.

    Denarious Moore, a 5th rd draft pick, was able to come in and start for this team right away. Are we relly questioning if the WRs below him were not in jeopardy of being replaced?

    I don’t understand the Hue is killing the team logic.

  297. Method To My Madness Says:

    290.JR77 Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 4:34 pm
    No tj is not as good as our worst wr? If he catches a 5 yard pass it will be a four yard gain done. Every other wr on the team can turn it to a 15 -20 yard gain based on speed alone…

    ===================

    Who other than DHB has had any YACs, only the designed play to glass in the houston game which I attended, one of his 7 catches for 65 yards this year. A whopping 1 catch for 9 yards per game.

    ************************

    you attended GayR77 and was the only Raider fan to get beat up in the entire facility

  298. SharkCatcher Says:

    raiderinparadise Says:
    oakland bengals

    SharkCatcher Says:

    4 players out of 53? Raiders son! get out of here with that Bengals sh8t

    *************************

    It was a joke, a little sensitive? or just dumb? Prob both.

    —————
    Write your own material Vitorio.

  299. JR77 Says:

    Method to my phaggness….you might as well be a Cable fan, you think glass and Hagan have been productive, I suppose you voted for JLH to go the pro bowl as well, delusional dweeb

  300. Method To My Madness Says:

    294.Plunder Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 4:36 pm
    Why are people still talking about Tom F’ing Cable?

    Dude is over in Seattle with his LG and TE friends sucking it up.

    Offensive line guru FOR SURE!

    *****************

    Becuz a stupid phaggot named GayR77 accused me of loving Cable…..funny this newbie doesnt read the blogs to even know better

  301. severeraiderz Says:

    Gordon broke his hand and went right back in the game and exactly what injury has Ausberry had? If he doesn’t understand the blocking assignments yet then I have serious questions about his intelligence.

  302. SharkCatcher Says:

    Denarious Moore, a 5th rd draft pick, was able to come in and start for this team right away. Are we relly questioning if the WRs below him were not in jeopardy of being replaced?

    ————–
    murphy and ford were hurt. Only reason D moore got his shot.

  303. M Lonetree Says:

    Hue Jack City – the place where old and young gather to brandish the shield, breath the autumn wind, and pledge to dominate the field.

  304. SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:

    Would love to see Palmer exploit a very weak and beatable Broncos pass D in his first effort at trying to make the Raider Nation sleep peacefully.

  305. raiderinparadise Says:

    I guarantee Carsons little Brother Jordan Palmer will takes Bollers place after season.

  306. J Hill Says:

    there is no way to spin the carson trade as positive, unless he takes AT LEAST to one AFC Championship game in the next 2 seasons. If not it is a complete failure. Gave up way too much. Simple.

    ——————————————————-

    So if we get to the AFC Championship trade, we did NOT give up too much, right?

    I think we get there with no problem provided everyone stays healthy.

  307. Method To My Madness Says:

    299.JR77 Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 4:38 pm
    Method to my phaggness….you might as well be a Cable fan, you think glass and Hagan have been productive, I suppose you voted for JLH to go the pro bowl as well, delusional dweeb

    ************************

    When did I say anything about Chaz being so fkin great? Hagan has been productive this year if he constantly gets first downs! How stupid and homo do you have to be?

    Hagan had nada to do with Cable so now you are being a woman…well thats what u phags wanna be so mission accomplished right?

  308. TerrapinRaider Says:

    268.daraider09 Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 4:27 pm

    there is no way to spin the carson trade as positive, unless he takes AT LEAST to one AFC Championship game in the next 2 seasons. If not it is a complete failure. Gave up way too much. Simple.

    *********************************

    Reeeeeaaaallllyyyy? Lets see…

    Chicago gave TWO 1st round picks, a 3rd round pick AND a QB (Orton) for Jay Cutler

    Houston swapped 1st round picks with Atlanta and gave up TWO 2nd round picks for Matt Schuab.

    McNabb was gotten on the cheap in comparison (and we see why) as Skins gave up a 2nd and 3rd for the rights to McNabb.

    We gave up a 1st and a 2nd which is cheaper than Cutler and Schaub. That 2nd could turn into a 1st if we make it to the AFC Championship game which means we are 1 step removed from the Super Bowl.

  309. SharkCatcher Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 4:38 pm
    294.Plunder Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 4:36 pm
    Why are people still talking about Tom F’ing Cable?

    Dude is over in Seattle with his LG and TE friends sucking it up.

    Offensive line guru FOR SURE!

    *****************

    Becuz a stupid phaggot named GayR77 accused me of loving Cable…..funny this newbie doesnt read the blogs to even know better
    ————————-
    Weren’t you and tom cable gettin’ Filipino Hookers on road trips?

  310. JR77 Says:

    If Chris Henry were still alive, Hue he’d be a raida right now, cuz Hue would sign him

  311. SharkCatcher Says:

    aiderinparadise Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 4:39 pm
    I guarantee Carsons little Brother Jordan Palmer will takes Bollers place after season.

    ——-
    lol…that would be wack

  312. KoolKell Says:

    TJ Housh, a baby blanket for Palmer?

  313. Method To My Madness Says:

    310.JR77 Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 4:41 pm
    If Chris Henry were still alive, Hue he’d be a raida right now, cuz Hue would sign him

    *************

    And if you werent gay you would like women not try to be one

  314. M Lonetree Says:

    “Chaz Schilens” – that which is stamped on packages in Estonia when containing fragile items.

  315. hwnrdr Says:

    Oh goodness I hope not!
    Anyways, I pray that Whosyourmamma shows the defenses whosyourdaddy whenever he takes the field! Would that happen, we will soon find out!

  316. SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:

    TerrapinRaider Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 4:40 pm

    We gave up a 1st and a 2nd which is cheaper than Cutler and Schaub.

    ————————————–

    That doesn’t make us necessarily smarter my dude…just less stupid….haha

  317. Method To My Madness Says:

    Kell needs an extra blanket for the cold couch at nite when wifey dismisses him after another failed attempt at sexual relations

  318. hwnrdr Says:

    Hey Shark, nothing wrong with Filipino hookers unless they were bottom of the barrel…

  319. J Hill Says:

    I would give up a number one draft pick every year just to get into the playoffs.Wouldnt you ?

    —————————————————–

    Exactly!

    Palmer is without question worth at least one first rd pick. You could split hairs and say he was only worth 2 #2’s, but who gives a rats arsse if we had to sweeten the pot a little to get Mike Brown to move off his stance? A mid to late rd 1st rd gamble????

    I don’t see the problem.

  320. SharkCatcher Says:

    SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 4:43 pm
    TerrapinRaider Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 4:40 pm

    We gave up a 1st and a 2nd which is cheaper than Cutler and Schaub.

    ————————————–

    That doesn’t make us necessarily smarter my dude…just less stupid….haha

    ———
    how many playoff games have the bears and texans gone to….1?

  321. M Lonetree Says:

    may the Humuhumunada be with us.

  322. Zymurge Says:

    Boyd was terrible. Got beat week in and week out. Giordano should not be on the field getting as mnay snaps as he had been getting.

    Ndukwe was a DAMN good signing.

    Aaron Curry for a 7th and 5th???? Anyone questioning that move obviously has not watched the last 2 games. CLEARLY an upgrade to Groves.

    Denarious Moore, a 5th rd draft pick, was able to come in and start for this team right away. Are we relly questioning if the WRs below him were not in jeopardy of being replaced?

    I don’t understand the Hue is killing the team logic.

    ====

    Thank you! Well stated.

  323. Method To My Madness Says:

    318.hwnrdr Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 4:44 pm
    Hey Shark, nothing wrong with Filipino hookers unless they were bottom of the barrel…

    *****************

    HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA im done…Hwnrdr u crazy lmao….good day

  324. J-Raider Says:

    wow.. i think we are slowly becoming the 2008 bengals..

  325. SharkCatcher Says:

    hwnrdr Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 4:44 pm
    Hey Shark, nothing wrong with Filipino hookers unless they were bottom of the barrel…


    Ohh I know ..My wife filipino not a hooker though lol

  326. Zymurge Says:

    “Chaz Schilens” – that which is stamped on packages in Estonia when containing fragile items.

    ===

    Brilliant!

  327. hwnrdr Says:

    M Lonetree Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 4:45 pm
    may the Humuhumunada be with us.

    LOL, M…now maybe I will customize that jersey…
    Humuhmunukunukuapua’a

  328. JR77 Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 4:42 pm

    310.JR77 Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 4:41 pm
    If Chris Henry were still alive, Hue he’d be a raida right now, cuz Hue would sign him

    *************

    And if you werent gay you would like women not try to be one
    =================

    I now have confirmed im either talking to a 13 year old having gay fantasies about Hagan, or a 40 year old retard, either way stop crying about your never was wr’s

  329. SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:

    320.SharkCatcher Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 4:45 pm
    SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 4:43 pm
    TerrapinRaider Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 4:40 pm

    We gave up a 1st and a 2nd which is cheaper than Cutler and Schaub.

    ————————————–

    That doesn’t make us necessarily smarter my dude…just less stupid….haha

    ———
    how many playoff games have the bears and texans gone to….1?

    ——————–

    missing the point. I’m not saying those were good moves. all I’m saying is we can’t really say ours is a better move yet, but we were “less stupid” than them in giving up what we gave up to get the guy we want. was making a joke…

  330. SharkCatcher Says:

    J-Raider Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 4:46 pm
    wow.. i think we are slowly becoming the 2008 bengals..

    —————————
    wanna take this one of should I

    raiderinparadise ?

  331. hwnrdr Says:

    All good Shark…my wife is Filipino also, and not a hooker either…But I’ve seen some of them in Hawaii….hmmm…

  332. J-Raider Says:

    so who thinks dmac will play this sunday??

  333. SharkCatcher Says:

    SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 4:47 pm
    320.SharkCatcher Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 4:45 pm
    SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 4:43 pm
    TerrapinRaider Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 4:40 pm

    We gave up a 1st and a 2nd which is cheaper than Cutler and Schaub.

    ————————————–

    That doesn’t make us necessarily smarter my dude…just less stupid….haha

    ———
    how many playoff games have the bears and texans gone to….1?

    ——————–

    missing the point. I’m not saying those were good moves. all I’m saying is we can’t really say ours is a better move yet, but we were “less stupid” than them in giving up what we gave up to get the guy we want. was making a joke…

    ——————
    I LIKE THE TRADE..CARSON IS Better than Shaub and Cutler.

  334. M Lonetree Says:

    too many of y’all live in fear of what could go wrong with any decision regarding the Raiders.
    screw it!
    HueJack is going all in.
    risk nothing, gain nothing – unless contentment is “we’re not losers anymore.”

  335. raiderinparadise Says:

    M Lonetree Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 4:42 pm
    “Chaz Schilens” – that which is stamped on packages in Estonia when containing fragile items.

    ***********************

    Lol hahahahahaahhahhaha or….

    “Chaz Schilens” A recurring injury disorder that never overhwlems your potential.

  336. M Lonetree Says:

    Hwnrdr,

    LOL. Humuhumu had to come into play sooner or later.

  337. KoolKell Says:

    Hwnrdr Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 4:48 pm

    All good Shark…my wife is Filipino also, and not a hooker either…But I’ve seen some of them in Hawaii….hmmm…
    ——————————————
    Anybody been to Subic Bay, Olongapo?

    Sweet women.

  338. hwnrdr Says:

    Yes I have Kell…Yes I have…back in 89!

  339. TerrapinRaider Says:

    If we didn’t get Palmer our season would be over. That performance by Boller was beyond pathetic. So much so, Palmer got early duty.

    We could have went after Garard but he really isn’t that good. He’s OK but he’s no Palmer.

  340. hwnrdr Says:

    M, I think I’ll order me the HumuHumu now…lol

  341. SharkCatcher Says:

    Going next year.

  342. SharkCatcher Says:

    I’ll take tebow over boller any day.thats sad.

  343. M Lonetree Says:

    Hwnrdr,

    da kine.

  344. J-Raider Says:

    cutler is very unreliable, shaub is by far the most inconsistant qb to ever play in the leauge.. the guy will throw for 350-400 and the next week throw for 100..
    carson palmer is without a doubt miles ahead of these two qbs.. you can compare him to the likes of eli manning or phillip rivers.. consistant producers.

  345. hwnrdr Says:

    Could do that also…either one, people will have problems saying it…

  346. M Lonetree Says:

    Terrapin,

    Garrard needed disc surgery. A no go.

  347. KoolKell Says:

    Hwnrdr Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 4:52 pm

    Yes I have Kell…Yes I have…back in 89!
    ————————————
    Navy?

  348. Will D Says:

    The difference in the picks for Culter and Schaub is those guys are younger and haven’t been injured like Palmer.

  349. SharkCatcher Says:

    good point WILL D

  350. raiderinparadise Says:

    Garrard was comparable to Campbells skill set and would have costed us no picks and small $$$$. If Palmer doesn’t work out (to me thats get us to a superbowl) then we cripple our next 3 years.

  351. hwnrdr Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 4:55 pm
    Hwnrdr Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 4:52 pm

    Yes I have Kell…Yes I have…back in 89!
    ————————————
    Navy?

    I was in the Navy, but didn’t get there from the Navy. Went there after I got out with a friend…

  352. SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:

    Shark – regardless if you like the trade or not, I was making a point initially to backup the homie DaRaider09 saying what will make the trade worth it. Eventually it got around to commenting on Terrapin’s comment that you responded to. It’s like this; if we don’t see the playoffs for each of the next three years including this one and/or go to the AFC championship within the next two, you SHOULDN’T like the trade. I wasn’t in favor of it initially, but then again, I lived in Louisville before moving to Cali, and was forced to watch the Bengals being they were the local game that came on a lot, so I have my own reasons to not have liked Carson. Obviously he’s a Raider now, so I’m trying to give him another shot, and I’m behind dude now. But from what I’ve seen, and I’ve seen a lot unlike a lot of people on here who I can guarantee didn’t watch full Bengal games, I don’t think he was worth all that, but of course if we do big things (and I’m pulling for us to do so ’cause I’m as diehard as they come), it will be all worth it.

    And yea, Carson is better than Schaub, but before my Raider pride blinded me and has made me pledge allegiance to Carson, I would say Cutler and Carson are about the same thing…..

  353. hwnrdr Says:

    Wasn’t Gerrard injured and needed surgery on his back though?

  354. SharkCatcher Says:

    I hope Prior becomes a beast by year #3

  355. Zymurge Says:

    I’ll take tebow over boller any day [...]

    ====

    Sadly I heard someone on ESPN (maybe it was Michael Irvin?) breaking down what the issue is with Tebow, and he just said, “He just can’t throw in the NFL.” And then he want on to say, “Same thing with Pryor over in Oakland. He can run but will never be a good QB in the NFL …”

    So Pryor takes Housh’s spot next year on the WR corp?

  356. BigTed707 Says:

    Whose gettin’ the axe?

  357. SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:

    354.SharkCatcher Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 4:58 pm
    I hope Prior becomes a beast by year #3

    ——————————————–

    Thats what I really want to happen. For Al’s last pick to be the real deal

  358. J Hill Says:

    334.M Lonetree Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 4:49 pm

    too many of y’all live in fear of what could go wrong with any decision regarding the Raiders.
    screw it!
    HueJack is going all in.
    risk nothing, gain nothing – unless contentment is “we’re not losers anymore.”

    ——————————————————-

    Exactly.

    Damn sitting here worried about who we would have drafted with the 22nd pick next year and waiting 2 or 3 years for him to develop.

    Trading that pick for a CHANCE to do big things is a NO BRAINER!

    That pick was not going to put us over the top. Carson Palmer potentially could.

  359. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    Jerrymcd Houshmandzadeh’s stats with HueJax as WR coach in Cincy 2004-2006: 241 receptions, 3,105 yards, 20 TDs
    about 1 hour ago
    “““““““““““““““““““““““““““`
    And I was 25lbs. lighter, and didn’t have grey hair. In 04-06..

  360. J Hill Says:

    If Palmer doesn’t work out (to me thats get us to a superbowl) then we cripple our next 3 years.

    ——————————————————

    How so?

  361. J Hill Says:

    And I was 25lbs. lighter, and didn’t have grey hair. In 04-06..

    ——————————————————

    LOL!

  362. hwnrdr Says:

    Alright Nation! Have to go…Taking my daughter to Chuck E Cheese tonight for her birthday! Go RAIDERS!!!

  363. SharkCatcher Says:

    Zymurge Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 4:58 pm
    I’ll take tebow over boller any day [...]

    ====

    Sadly I heard someone on ESPN (maybe it was Michael Irvin?) breaking down what the issue is with Tebow, and he just said, “He just can’t throw in the NFL.” And then he want on to say, “Same thing with Pryor over in Oakland. He can run but will never be a good QB in the NFL
    ————————-
    Tebow throws the ball like he only has 3 fingers . I’ve seen Prior be somewhat accurate and deliver the deep bomns

  364. J Hill Says:

    Garrard was comparable to Campbells skill set and would have costed us no picks and small $$$$.

    ——————————————————

    And our potential ceiling with those 2 would be what?

  365. Method To My Madness Says:

    Yeah Kell thinks those women are fine becuz they were no black women….black power!

  366. djohnnyg Says:

    334.M Lonetree Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 4:49 pm
    too many of y’all live in fear of what could go wrong with any decision regarding the Raiders.
    screw it!
    HueJack is going all in.
    risk nothing, gain nothing – unless contentment is “we’re not losers anymore.”

    Yeah. What did all those drafts with all those picks from 2003-2010 get us?

    Point is, you never know what will happen in the future. By having all those picks in prior years it got us NOTHING. A few worked out; Huff and a few others, but by and large nada.

    To everyone fearing Hue is just building this good team at the risk of the future and then bolting, keep in mind he will be held accountable for how the Raiders do as a result of these moves.

    if Raiders tank cuz of this then Hue is going nowhere significant.

  367. M Lonetree Says:

    Happy Birthday wahini!

  368. KoolKell Says:

    I was a WestPac Sailor out of Yokosuka Japan. Loved P.I.

    1980 a couple of P.I. girls woke me up at 3am, in a Hotel in Olongapo they had set up a TV and snacks, and watched the Super Bowl with me. Raiders vs. Philly.

    Sweet women, fine too.

  369. SharkCatcher Says:

    Milk Box – Missing – have you seen him?
    DENARIOUS MOORE.

  370. J Hill Says:

    so who thinks dmac will play this sunday??

    ——————————————————-

    I think we should be able to roll with Bush and Jones against the Broncos this weekend.

  371. djohnnyg Says:

    Difference between Tebow and Pryor is we haven’t actually seen Pryor start an NFL game.

    Until then, Irvin needs to shut his pie hole.

  372. M Lonetree Says:

    wonder what Irvin had to say ’bout CamNewt prior to his NFL debut?

  373. SharkCatcher Says:

    3 WAY TIE…NOW OR NEVER. Code Black aka Just Win Baby.

  374. Method To My Madness Says:

    Fine women to Kell as long as they arent black……such the Black Panther

  375. DaTruth91 Says:

    im a huge Hue jackson fan, but im kinda worried.

    He’s making alot of moves and alot of noise, which is fine when your winning.

    If the raiders struggle, all eyes are going to be on Hue. he will get all the blame of the carson palmer trade, ect.

    In regards to Housh, the niners worked him out a few weeks ago and said no. And they only have one decent wr in Crabtree( morgan hurt)…

    But….” in Hue we trust”

  376. SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:

    Shark – Moore hit a rookie wall. Losing his QB didn’t help his confidence any. He’ll be fine.

  377. M Lonetree Says:

    Tbone is Tbone, comparing his worthless carcass to anyone else is mental drudgery.

  378. DaTruth91 Says:

    Any Update with DMAC???

  379. KoolKell Says:

    Brien Bootlicker, you still here?

  380. zopi Says:

    Who broke this story?
    No one claimed it, the Raiders tweeted it? Wow, Raiders moving on up

    Why was TJ unemployed? He’s not costing that much at 500K.
    At 35, how much does he have left?
    Someone on TV said that TJ comes in as a security “blanket” for Palmer, really?

    Monty Poole is correct, the division is wide opened and the Raiders can take over in the next two games. Raiders win them, they’ll be sitting pretty at 6-3. Who knows maybe 10-6 could get the division.

  381. SharkCatcher Says:

    The one thing about the TJ signing is that Carson can go out in the pitch black and tell him to run a route and he will be there because of familiraties (I stole that from Madden)

  382. KoolKell Says:

    Brien Bootlicker, you still here? You have noting to do all day?

  383. raiderjhawk Says:

    Dstomp, so you think Al would have let Bruce Davis II get cut the week after he blocked a punt against the Texans to set up the win if he were still alive? Heck no… he would have been on Al’s scholarship for the rest of the year.

    I agree that Al did some crazy stuff but he was at least loyal to the players he had, he didn’t play musical chairs half way through the season either. Al wouldn’t have wanted Housh, he’s old and slow and I don’t think Al would have given that much for Carson personally either. Just one Raiders fans opinion no need for name calling.

    I root for all Raiders players, I just don’t think we need Housh. I hope he proves me wrong and I have to eat crow. Carson better work out or Hue’s gonna look real dumb.

  384. SharkCatcher Says:

    in the pitch black!!!

  385. J Hill Says:

    Browns waived wide receiver Brian Robiskie to make room for running back Thomas Clayton.

    —————————————————-

    LMN, you out there????

  386. I am Spartacus Says:

    I see that more and more of you are catching on to what a snake Hue Jackson is. I’ve been saying that now for two years. He was a sycophant when Al was alive and it served him well. Now that Al is dead, you will see what a self-serving and self-dealing fraud he is.

  387. downsouthraider Says:

    It is what it is…we signed Housh. Nothing we say on hear will change that. Let’s get ready to cut some donkey azz this weekend! CODE BLACK

    Raiders 31
    Donkeys 10

  388. Twocents Says:

    Now it’s a nine game season and we are essentially a different team. Don’t know how it will turn out but it’s better than we’ve been in years. We have a chance to be really good and that’s good enough for me.

  389. M Lonetree Says:

    Datruth,

    HueJack isn’t afraid.
    most NFL HCs pucker up as soon as they get the tag.
    I wish he wouldn’t dial up every reverse known to man on the first series of every game, but the man has brass.
    Let it play and don’t worry yourself.

  390. J Hill Says:

    adbrandt Andrew Brandt
    by PGutierrezCSN

    TJ Housh signed biggest free agent wide receiver deal in NFL two yrs ago (Seattle) for $40M. Now signing minimum contract in Oakland.

    ——————————————————

    Minimum deal????

    Wow, I can really see the concern.

  391. SharkCatcher Says:

    damn –a snake? it’s the nfl dude…people get cut all the time …business never personal

  392. SharkCatcher Says:

    have to water thee grass–damn the commitee!

  393. raiderjhawk Says:

    RAIDERS 27 – BRONCOS 10

    LET’S GET BACK ON TRACK! CODE BLACK!

  394. KoolKell Says:

    SharkCatcher Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 5:14 pm

    damn –a snake? it’s the nfl dude…people get cut all the time …business never personal
    ——————————————
    Hehe, yeah, until some media type criticizes the Raiders, then it’s personal as hell to some of you. WHINE WHINE WHINE. lOL.

  395. inonewordraider Says:

    can’t defend this move. Hagan and Chaz can do what TJ does add that to the fact that someone get’s cut because of it and TJ has a history of complaining that he doesn’t get the ball enough

  396. VanHeathen Says:

    looks like Hue is carrying on w/ Al’s tradition of personel moves tha upset the Nation…
    Yet, on th eother hand, he seems to be saying,
    it’s now about production and nothing else…
    CODE BLACK!

  397. Twinkle Says:

    Evening all…just me or did anyone else sense Al in
    the ho-makeups’ huddle on that kneel down at the end of
    last nights game? Can’t remember ever seeing a fumble
    on a kneel down before.

  398. KoolKell Says:

    Inonewordraider, can you defend this move as a favor to Palmer? Which is what I think it is.

  399. Blackmamba_20 Says:

    WE know whos cut yet?

  400. Blackmamba_20 Says:

    Raiders have no divas anymore, TJ Utters one word of discontent hes done… help the young guys, train hard, wait your turn can catch anything thrown at you..

  401. JR77 Says:

    Zymurge Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 4:58 pm
    I’ll take tebow over boller any day [...]

    ====

    Sadly I heard someone on ESPN (maybe it was Michael Irvin?) breaking down what the issue is with Tebow, and he just said, “He just can’t throw in the NFL.” And then he want on to say, “Same thing with Pryor over in Oakland. He can run but will never be a good QB in the NFL
    ————————-
    Tebow throws the ball like he only has 3 fingers . I’ve seen Prior be somewhat accurate and deliver the deep bomns

    =========

    That was Keyshawn who spewed this verbal garbage…his brain size is that of that animal from Hangover 2…sadly though he is on the raiders bandwagon this year, he buys into the raiders being the new bully on the block

  402. Twinkle Says:

    Shark…what makes you think Hue is a snake.I would give
    that monicker to Kiffen.There’s a lot to be said for
    being in the right place at the right time.

  403. PlunkforHOF Says:

    Well, fukkin bummer. Looks like I’m not making the game. Weatherman says big snowstorm on Sunday in the Sierra. That means a 6-7 hr drive instead of 3 1/2. And I’ve got a benefit concert to play Sat nite, so chances are I’d miss part of the game even if I tried to make it. So, B@uce, Hwnrdr, sorry buds.. I will make another game for sure this year. Think about Plunk when they’re scraping Teblow off the turf..

  404. SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:

    Aiight Nation, be good; I’m outta here

  405. Twinkle Says:

    #400
    damn…hafta give Sapp a call.

  406. PlunkforHOF Says:

    CODE BLACK remains in effect

  407. Twinkle Says:

    I didn’t know what to make of ‘building a bully’….
    then read what the chefs were saying about their extra
    day in the ice after playing us etc.How sore and beat up
    they are after playing ‘an always physical Raider game’.

  408. 30 year raider Says:

    read some of these earlier posts.. some say there “sick” of HUE ?? “”cant stand him?? power gone to his head??” WOW IM SHOCKED to read this!! Bringing in a VETERAN WR who is familiar with carson and vise a versa IS A GREAT MOVE!! carson has to have a WR this sunday that he feels comfortable with throwing the ball to.. Great Move getting this possesion type WR..

  409. DKnight007 Says:

    The coaches and team need to get their azzes in gear this weekend.

    DEFENSE needs to step and carry the offense for once!

    Palmer should not throw any INT’s and Huey and Saunders need to call a good smart offensive game!

    Get T Jones, Moore, Ford and DHB the ball in SPACE!!!

  410. Twinkle Says:

    Can M.Tonga return to the practice squad? If so and
    Reece is a go…would not that be the way too go?

  411. KoolKell Says:

    Does this move signify that Palmer is still not comfortable with the WR’s????

  412. DKnight007 Says:

    Oh…Oh…here we go with the dumb idiots calling Huey a “snake” and talking crap about first legit head coach in quite sometime??

    Oy vey!

  413. Blackmamba_20 Says:

    Just Get T Jones in the game more, If DMAC Out i dont want to see 30 carries for Bush, Jones about to break one off !!

  414. The Realist Dirty Raccoon Says:

    Hue tells KHTK corresponding move for Houshmandzadeh announced tonight or Wednesday

  415. Twinkle Says:

    #408
    word!
    What has the man done (maybe trusting in his players too
    much) that warrants this kind of bs?

  416. Dstomp Says:

    raiderjhawk Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 5:11 pm

    Dstomp, so you think Al would have let Bruce Davis II get cut the week after he blocked a punt against the Texans to set up the win if he were still alive? Heck no… he would have been on Al’s scholarship for the rest of the year.

    I agree that Al did some crazy stuff but he was at least loyal to the players he had, he didn’t play musical chairs half way through the season either. Al wouldn’t have wanted Housh, he’s old and slow and I don’t think Al would have given that much for Carson personally either. Just one Raiders fans opinion no need for name calling.

    I root for all Raiders players, I just don’t think we need Housh. I hope he proves me wrong and I have to eat crow. Carson better work out or Hue’s gonna look real dumb.
    ******************************************
    I’m not saying you would have let Davis II go or not, truth is no one does (and maybe its a good thing there is no more scholarship program!). My point is people (not necessarily you) want to act like this is a bad signing and their argument is “Al wouldn’t have done this”. I’m not sure we need Housh either but maybe the other receivers aren’t progression like they want them to or need them to so they thought bringing in a Vet would help?
    BTW, are you located in Lawrence?

  417. KoolKell Says:

    So far as HueJax/Palmer, we’ll just have to wait and see.

  418. KoolKell Says:

    It was disappointing to see how ill prepared Boller was for last Sunday’s game. I would have thought Jackson/Saunders would have had him better prepared.

    We’ll see.

  419. Twinkle Says:

    Playing slot in the NFL can make for a short career….
    I notice Mr Murphy’s arms were a little shorter last week
    but hopefully it was just the rust.If dude has made a career out of catching balls 3 feet from Ray Lewis twice a year then I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt.Jerry Rice did OK here I seem to remember.

  420. PlunkforHOF Says:

    I’m making a guess that Chaz goes on IR to make room for Housh

  421. mcfadden20. Says:

    GOod signing , will only help palmer and is a good possession receiver, Palmer knows what he got , he wouldnt have told Hue to sign him if it would hurt Palmer…

  422. YoungAmerican Says:

    Housh was signed because of his report Palmer and familiarity with Hue Jackson’s system.

    Wouldn’t mind seeing the Raiders let Murphy go. Plenty of young guys on this team and Murphy just doesn’t seem to do anything well enough to warrant a roster spot.

  423. RaiderfanNY Says:

    A ridiculous move that makes the team worse.

  424. mcfadden20. Says:

    man we need to cut that chaz guy hes always injury prone and he seems like he lost a step or two … what he got like 5 catches who season?f*ck his potential he could go ahead and flourish anywhere else if he could but the guyz seems like always takin up a roster spot for nothing…

  425. mcfadden20. Says:

    your crazy man.. the guy is only signed for one season to help this team… and we actually got a receiver who will mentor our young guys , how is it bad move ?

  426. mcfadden20. Says:

    if he don;t got it , he’ll probably get cut or will be inactive every week .. some of you guys are so stupid … they only think about stats and go no further then that…

  427. Twinkle Says:

    Does anyone know if Tonga is allowed back on the practice squad?

  428. JR77 Says:

    RaiderfanNY Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 6:02 pm

    A ridiculous move that makes the team worse.

    ========================

    Its not a ridicuolous move, its not a bad move but its not a great move either, its not the earth shaking move that was Palmer, we will see though how it works out, reserve judgment till the AFC championship game.

    How does it make the team worse? enlighten me..what WR in the roster has playoff experience and isnt afraid to get blown up?

  429. LA to TheBay Says:

    Wow.

    What a backlash over a veteran WR signing.

    Hue brought in someone he’s worked with before and someone who has worked with the QB before, who – by the way – worked with Hue before.

    He knows what he’s getting here. Guy signed for a prorated vet minimum and some marginal player will get cut for it. TJ has more catches in one season than most of the other WRs combined. He’s gonna play in the slot a ton and make touch catches Murphy is too scared to make and Chaz is too frail to do consistently.

    We’re still gonna have DHB wide and this can only help him.

    Calm the f*ck down, people.

  430. LA to TheBay Says:

    tough catches*

  431. Plunder Says:

    With ya #429.

  432. HueKnows Says:

    I guess either the 2 extra days of practice didn’t help much or the boys declined CP’s invite to watch MNF.

  433. LA to TheBay Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 5:55 pm
    It was disappointing to see how ill prepared Boller was for last Sunday’s game. I would have thought Jackson/Saunders would have had him better prepared.

    We’ll see.

    ——————–

    Disagree. I don’t think Boller was ill prepared, I think he can’t make the throws.

    I know it was popular in here to say that Hue blew the playcalling (and I was pretty upset at first too), but I went back and watched it again — playcalling wasn’t bad.

    Could have ran more I guess, but we were running well early. The plays were there and Boller just couldn’t get the ball there.

    That first flea-flicker was 6. He missed another throw that could have been 6. At least a big gain.

    He was that bad, IMO.

  434. Blackmamba_20 Says:

    I think Murphs getting a raw deal on here mayn,, dudes been injured.. He aint at a level were he takes lots of snaps of others i agree, but we drafted dude, he loves the raiders and he has produced in his 1st 2 years when we had horrible QB situations.. Has to be big bad Chaz …

  435. LA to TheBay Says:

    I think this only makes the fast guys better.

    TJ makes a few tough catches to move the sticks, run the ball effectively, then– boom, blowing the top off.

  436. Transformer Man and Captain Kennedy Says:

    Is that Method but hole still around? That guy is a grade A prick.

  437. ghostraiders Says:

    Yea… who knows??? I hope these young receivers didn’t get all but hurt because jc is out…. or because Palmer is replacing him… I still think we need a top notch receiver… we don’t have one and this shows we need one… we don’t need any has beens… that’s what housh is.. a has been.

  438. zopi Says:

    Monty Poole thinks that the team that reaches 9 wins first gets the AFC West. Monty feels the Raiders could pull 5 straight wins by the end of the Dolphins game to get to 9-3. If the Raiders can pull that feat, the Packer game could be a classic. I say the division will be decided at KC and against SD here. Raiders must win those two last games to get to the playoffs. And a lot will depend on how the Raiders do against the NFC North.

  439. Blackmamba_20 Says:

    this TJ siging isnt meant to be a HUGE TRADE like its all just ticking some boxs that help this football team

    Experience
    Familiarity with QB
    Familiarity with Coach
    Can Catch – important when playing WR
    Cheap

    In the words of Charlie Sheen – Winning

  440. LA to TheBay Says:

    Yeah, if you let a WR go, it’s gotta be Chaz.

    Murhpy could have been traded and got a low round pick for him.

    Don’t see us just cutting him. He’s been productive and has some upside. He needs to shake whatever is bothering him, preventing him from playing tough.

    Chaz just can’t stay healthy and Hue was willing to sit him even when he was (or claimed to be).

  441. mcfadden20. Says:

    Who cares what monte poole thinks we still have to play those games , theres no magic ball to decide who’s gonna win how many games etc..

  442. mcfadden20. Says:

    # HueKnows Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 6:10 pm

    I guess either the 2 extra days of practice didn’t help much or the boys declined CP’s invite to watch MNF.

    ————-

    dudes maybe couldnt make it because they had other things too

  443. mcfadden20. Says:

    we have to look at the next game , can’t think about anything else…

  444. ghostraiders Says:

    If you have to let one go… please let go of glass. . The Minute someone picks him up… I will feel vindicated when he strains his vaagina. .

  445. Twinkle Says:

    Boler aint bad he’s every bit as good as Trent Dilfer.
    They both were excellent at going through their progressions beyond the LOS and the oline had only to
    hold their blocks on passing downs til the ball was snapped.

  446. mcfadden20. Says:

    yah im with you ghost they guy does not contribute to us in any way ,as a receiver , special teams what so ever…

  447. JR77 Says:

    Transformer Man and Captain Kennedy Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 6:14 pm

    Is that Method but hole still around? That guy is a grade A prick.

    ==================

    He’s the kind of guy that if I saw crash his car out in the sticks and witnessed him bleeding to death, I would not call 911 I would pull a Tony Soprano on Chrissy move

  448. mcfadden20. Says:

    quit talking about boller and JC already only QB’s that will b on the Roster next year will be Carson Palmer and Terrel pryor and i really think Pryor will be asked to convert to TE or WR

  449. Twinkle Says:

    We don’t have to let anyone go if Manase Tonga is allowed
    to return to the practice squad.Any one know the rules on this?

  450. PlunkforHOF Says:

    Sux if I’m right about Chaz cuz hes my MUP

  451. PlunkforHOF Says:

    I think if Tonga clears waivers he can go back

  452. The Realist Dirty Raccoon Says:

    Twinkle Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 6:07 pm
    Does anyone know if Tonga is allowed back on the practice squad?

    ::::::::::

    Yes, only after he clears waivers.

  453. PlunkforHOF Says:

    Fuk u newbies… B@uce is all Raiders, all the time. Never heard of you.

  454. Twinkle Says:

    Chaz = not going anywhere.
    1 Al picked him
    2 Good blocker downfield
    3 Real good hands,routes and elevation/speed
    and
    4 Al picked him

  455. JONTRAIN Says:

    Wow some of you have turned on Hue so quickly. Crazy.

    All this talk about all these risky moves is nonsense. There is only one. The trade for Palmer was a big risk. NO doubt. Let’s see how it pans out. In the meantime, CALM THE PHUKK DOWN!

    No matter who we let go in favor of TJ…it doesn’t matter. We’ll be letting go of a player who wasn’t doing much for the team anyway

    Chill out.

    And by the way, just imagine..for a second…going through the rest of the season with Boller at QB.

    I’m riding with Hue, just like I did last year during the ridiculous Cable vs. Hue debates. Let the man do his job.

  456. PlunkforHOF Says:

    Twinkle Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 6:33 pm
    Chaz = not going anywhere.
    1 Al picked him
    2 Good blocker downfield
    3 Real good hands,routes and elevation/speed
    and
    4 Al picked him

    ***************************************

    All good points, but.. He is ALWAYS hurt

  457. GoodOle00 Says:

    NEW!~ 11-01-11: OLDER BUT WISER
    Palmer, Sheppard, Houshmandzedah all in their 30s but with age comes experience…
    http://www.raidernationstation.com/exclusives

  458. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Boler aint bad he’s every bit as good as Trent Dilfer.

    ******************************

    What??????????

    Dilfer had a winning record in Tampa, Baltimore and Seattle.

    Boller has lost 11 games in a row and almost has twice as many career turnovers as TD’s.

  459. Just Fire Baby Says:

    That was a pretty deep hour and a half piece on Chris Herron.

    Addiction is a MF

  460. JONTRAIN Says:

    And for the record, I think Hagan should get the axe. 7 WR’s is simply too many. I like him, but his upside isn’t as great as any of the other WR’s.

    And yes, I still have faith in Chaz, injuries or not. Go ahead, crucify me.

  461. MikieG Says:

    I got no problem with the move..and let me just go on the record as saying I feel it is Murphy who should get IR’d.. not the Axe…instead of Tonga.
    Housh will not be re-signed next year and Murph can have 9 months to get back to where he was in 2010..
    Keep the Tongs..

  462. Twinkle Says:

    Thanks…so much for that idea coz I doubt Tonga would
    clear waivers.From the little I’ve seen of him he looks
    real good.Prototypical BYU back….damn …looks like Chaz or Murphy after all.

  463. JONTRAIN Says:

    I’m just sitting here laughing at the folks on here really concerned with whether or not our 3rd string fullback is gonna get cut to make room for TJ

    WTF

  464. Just Fire Baby Says:

    A good chunk of NFL teams don’t even use a FB.

    If Tonga were wanted, someone could have taken him off the Practice Squad the last year and a half.

    He will clear waivers………easily.

  465. rob_raider Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:10 pm
    Tonga cut? Hue is a loser if this happens and we get exactly what we deserve
    **********

    what’s ur love affair w/ a 27-yr-old fb that is so-so and on the fringes of the nfl? i kinda like having a “real” fullback too but he’s not that good. and reece/gordon fit the bill w/ way more upside.

    it’s very likely tonga to get cut. why have 3 fb’s? could be hagan too, since he really isn’t great, even though so many here think he’s better than he is.

    but i think it’s funny how idiotic some of u guys are. signing housh is a bad idea? seriously? why? dhb has emerged as a rising star. denarious has great ability but has disappeared like the rookie he is. ford is explosive but not a guy u go to for 1st downs. chaz is similar to tj, but much faster. but he hasn’t lit it up. hagan is similar but what exactly has he done so great either? and murphy looks scared of contact.

    tj fits a profile of a 3rd down possession receiver. i think he’ll help out quite a bit. and he’ll help palmer feel more comfortable. hue is getting us ready for the playoffs. i guess too many of u don’t remember how that feels. it’s like a bunch of fans booing when a baseball team brings in a middle reliever at the trade deadline. no one thinks it’s a good pickup, until u realize he helped solidify the bullpen.

  466. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Is TJ going to bust out his canary yellow suits again?

    Pretty snazzy dresser he is.

  467. MistaBrown Says:

    Cut Chaz & Murph and keep the roster where it is. Those 2 clowns will do nothing for us.

    tj-dhb-ford-moore-hagan

    The end

  468. JONTRAIN Says:

    Since Al passed away (R.I.P.):

    1) Curry: so far, so good. Already has made plays that Quentin Groves simply could not.

    2) Defense has improved exponentially. Blitizing, mixing up coverages, etc. Run defense suddenly is adequate. Coincidence? I think not.

    3) Palmer. The jury is out, obviously. I personally think he is an upgrade over JC. We’ll see.

    4) TJ. Low risk move that only help

    So.. can somebody please explain how Hue is “drunk with power”???? Fact is, if we hadn’t lost that last game, the tone in here would be completely different

  469. Twinkle Says:

    JFB my bad…but I still think Dilfer stunk.His winning
    record had more to do with Ray Lewis and friends than his innate ability.Whats up with FSU CA not FL QB’s
    anyways?

  470. MistaBrown Says:

    My only question is why did we wait this long?
    Now he has to cram in our playbook along with Palmer.

  471. MistaBrown Says:

    Dilfer did stink to high heaven. JFB loves stats but those stats dont tell you how good Balt & TB defenses were to give him those wins.

  472. JONTRAIN Says:

    MistaBrown Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 6:48 pm
    My only question is why did we wait this long?
    Now he has to cram in our playbook along with Palmer.

    ************

    AD

  473. MistaBrown Says:

    AD been gone for 3 weeks, TJ could have been here a week ago…..try again Jon

  474. MistaBrown Says:

    I think Hue is tired of Chaz being hurt and Murhpy afraid of his own shadow.

  475. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Dilfer had a winning record in Seattle.

    He was solid in the middle of his career, and was awful at the beginning and end of it.

  476. MistaBrown Says:

    I dont even remember Dilfer being in Sea.

    How many yrs was he there?

  477. Just Fire Baby Says:

    4 TD’s and 1 INT in his playoff run.

    If Ray could get QB play like that every year in the playoffs, he might have 6 rings.

    Instead he has one. That Dilfer helped him earn.

  478. JONTRAIN Says:

    really?

    ugh….Hue has always wanted him (rumored to, anyway). If he didn’t get him this past offseason it was because of Al.

    OK…why now instead of exactly 3 weeks ago? Maybe because Palmer is the QB and Housh actually wants to play in Oakland now. Just a hunch

    “try again”???

    grow up

  479. Just Fire Baby Says:

    4 years in Seattle, 8-4 record as a starter in spot starts.

    Not saying he was great or anything, but massively better than Kyle Boller.

  480. luvmarvhub Says:

    Zymurge Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:48 pm

    “You know that play that Palmer bounced off of Moore’s chest for an int against the Chefs? It was a quick hitting slant route, a play that the Raiders rarely run. Well, maybe it’s a strong suit for Palmer. It’s actually a really difficult throw to make, which may be why prior Raider QBs weren’t asked to do it.

    The point is that Palmer seems comfortable with it, based on it being one of the few plays that he learned. And if Housh and he can connect on that a few times a game, it’s a 5-8 yard gainer to help move the chains. But more importantly, being able to run an effective slant does two key things for an offense:
    - Sets up the deep routes down the side, when the WR takes a step inside to sell the slant and catches the CB leaning inside
    - Helps the running game a lot, since it freezes the LBs and forces the safety to play a little further off the LOS. That last thing a safety wants to see is an audible to a quick hitting slant where the WR catches it and angles behind the safety and takes it to the house. Anyone remember Higgins doing exactly that on the one accurate throw that JaWalrus ever made? It worked because they were facing 8 in the box.”

    As Plunder said, “nice post.”

  481. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Boller played in Baltimore, 2 years after Dilfer won the Super Bowl, and managed to spend 5 years there without ever making a playoff appearance.

  482. Twinkle Says:

    JFB…true again when I think about it…not a lot teams
    actually use FB’s any more…Reece is unusual and can get
    the DC’s attention.Like Tonga a lot tho…best suggestion
    so far is Murphy to the IR then Chaz can go on it also
    in a week or two.BTW Mr Rivers nice play on the kneeldown
    last night.No biggie you can practice it with GB after
    4 days off…by then you should be well versed in the art of playing physical football so you can play us with confidence… that is if your azz is still pointing at the ground….have a nice day.

  483. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I like Tonga, but he was born 10 years too late.

    The “true” FB is a dying breed in today’s NFL.

  484. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Is Corkran going to have us twist in the wind again until 11pm?

  485. UCLA Raiders Says:

    Old man is gone and now Insanes are running the asylum, or what? I like it personally. It’s quite a departure from the do nothing mid season attitude the old man had which had tied the organizations hand in making any adjustments.
    Let’s roll the dice. It’s better than doing nothing!

  486. Blackmamba_20 Says:

    467.MistaBrown Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 6:46 pm
    Cut Chaz & Murph and keep the roster where it is. Those 2 clowns will do nothing for us.

    tj-dhb-ford-moore-hagan

    The end

    ————

    i cant beleive your calling murphy a clown(barring his run in with the law)and too cut him..

  487. Twinkle Says:

    JFB no doubt that Dilfer is better stat wise etc than
    Prejean’s beau…Baltimore’s O has always sucked…Billick didn’t care about the O…that D of
    theirs was f@king brutal….to whit the azz whupping they put on us the the championship game.Hey Rich when the big italian dude over there invites you to a blanket party do not reply ‘Oh cool I’ll bring the mattress’.
    Chucky figured we just run the ball up the gut and play
    action…guess that’s why he’s on TV and not on the field
    on Sundays.Dilfer couldn’t hit the side of a barn if he was leaning on it.I’m sure Ray Lewis would love to discuss with you or anyone how his career was greatly
    enhanced by mr Dilfers association.See it now…”who the f$k is Trent Dilfer?”

  488. MikieG Says:

    I like letting these freaking receivers (Im looking at you Chaz) know that the AD scholarship program is over..time to produce or get the F out…
    Chaz ain’t done nothing in his entire Career..
    Jacoby has regressed because he got to comfortable reading his own press
    DHB is improving, but not yet where he needs to be
    Denarius is hitting a brick wall and is losing confidence
    Hagan is a possession reciever
    Murphy needs to go to the IR to get his head back on straight and be willing to take a hit again.
    Housh is going to move the chains…

    Love the move. This receiver corps is FAR from polished.

  489. Blackmamba_20 Says:

    “Jacoby has regressed because he got to comfortable reading his own press”

    really ?? Next to no pre season, hurt early in the season.. getting himself back in the rotation.. all interviews ive seen he is a humble hard working dude..

  490. RaiderYYZ Says:

    is it an indication that Boss is still a ways away? We have no reliable TE behind him so TJ could be the big body to make those shor receptions.

    I don’t think it would take away from the current wr corps, and could be a good locker room addition.

  491. 504 Raider Says:

    This is a great move to bring in TJ. All it says is that Carson liked T.J. more than he liked T.O.

    T.J. should start this Sunday and be the slot guy.

    In our last game the one WR who absolutely killed us was #15. He kept getting big receptions on third down to keep drives alive and keep our offense on the sidelines. That is exactly what we need T.J. to do for us.

  492. Twinkle Says:

    MikieG I agree….one point tho…all these WR’s are fast
    a point that Palmer also noted.Our QB can put it in a bucket at 50 yards…we have not had that since Jeff George.The point in drafting speed receivers for Gannon
    was they they look good in team photo’s.You cant teach speed and they can all catch up to a ball in front of em.
    Smaller learning curve on go and fly routes.Like I said if whoseyomomma made a long career playing catch in arms reach of Ray Lewis twice a year he either has talent and or huge gonads and a very high pain threshold.

  493. Twinkle Says:

    RaiderYYZ bet Tonga could play TE well

  494. VanHeathen Says:

    504: i belieive your talking about Steve Breaston…
    smaller guy, played up against us, partially cause the D was on the field ALL DAMN DAY!

    CODE BLACK on the Donkeys!

  495. olinesux Says:

    if tj makes murph lose a spot that is bs…

  496. Twinkle Says:

    Hue is not afraid to make a move or two is he?Man’s in a hurry to get us back to where we belong.I’m in….tired of seeing different staff every year.

  497. Raider guy Says:

    Something came up on Sirius this morning that made me think about the raiders and Carson Palmer. Phil Simms and rich Gannon and that little beech Adam schein were talking about how the offense in buffalo fits Ryan fitzpatrck and how oak lands used to fit rich. Hugh Jackson cut his teeth with Carson. Do y’all think that this o is set up for Carson and Carson is set up for this o. I mean, this could be the best situation for both to show what they are capable of.

  498. Twinkle Says:

    Our wideouts are just fine.Real hard position to master in the NFL and they are all progressing.Rare to see one start straight out of college.

  499. Twinkle Says:

    Guy couldn’t agree more…the vert pass game meets the
    gunslinger.About the chefs game…we basically spot em
    3 TD’s, keep the D out there all day and out stat em and all they can manage is 7 points.Last night’s game blew.
    Anyone still think the NFL ain’t fixed?How do you fumble an exchange on a kneel down….was fully expecting a tie.

  500. Sullivan44 Says:

    PlunkforHOF Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 6:30 pm

    Fuk u newbies… B@uce is all Raiders, all the time. Never heard of you.
    ——-
    Probably because they’re cross posting. Boy, I hate it when someone does that. I’m going to go speak with them right now.

  501. Raider guy Says:

    That is why hue was so fired up.the o is built for Carson. I try to temper myself but the possibility and the “fit” fire me up

  502. PlunkforHOF Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 8:14 pm
    PlunkforHOF Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 6:30 pm

    Fuk u newbies… B@uce is all Raiders, all the time. Never heard of you.
    ——-
    Probably because they’re cross posting. Boy, I hate it when someone does that. I’m going to go speak with them right now.

    ************************************************

    Ahh, yes.. go and scold the Sockpuppet Army.

  503. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    Housh ?? Pfffft. Never liked the guy to begin with and I think he’s done, but in the grand scheme of things this is a minor move.

    Still no word on who goes to make room for Houshbringsnada ?

    Reading between the lines, it’s probably Tonga. Pretty sure Hue doesn’t value his blocking ability as much as some here do. That’s why Gordon was employed as lead blocker in goal line packages early. Might have something to do with Hue going to Pryor gimmick and then Bush wildcat, instead of using Tonga, in short yardage situations against the Chefs. Raids haven’t been adept at converting short yardage/goal line runs in quite a while now. Would seem to be a need for a power blocking FB in these situations. Don’t believe Hue thinks Tonga is that guy.

    Could also be Chaz, although this is less likely in my estimation. But it should be noted that something might be up with Schillens and Hue. Chaz was inactive against the Chefs – Hue claimed he was dinged (groin ?) – Chaz said he was fine. Something brewing there.

    Can’t see Houshbringsnada contributing much, besides being a temporary Carson security blanket. Far from an earth shattering move.

  504. edward teach Says:

    It’s simple, really; Housh is primarily a slot receiver that by all accounts wasn’t used that way in Seattle and Baltimore.

    He was brought here because there isn’t a reliable slot receiver on the roster.

    We are trying to make the playoffs THIS year. If you want to develop a young guy to play in the slot, fine. Just do it in practice and when/if we have a big lead in the fourth quarter.

    The games that are being played now count. Try not to read too much more into this acquisition than that.

  505. J Hill Says:

    Houshbringsnada

    —————————————————-

    LOL!

  506. J Hill Says:

    Hous = slot WR?

    That’s Jacoby Ford’s spot.

  507. Seymour Bush Says:

    LA to TheBay Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 6:12 pm

    KoolKell Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 5:55 pm
    It was disappointing to see how ill prepared Boller was for last Sunday’s game. I would have thought Jackson/Saunders would have had him better prepared.

    We’ll see.

    ——————–

    Disagree. I don’t think Boller was ill prepared, I think he can’t make the throws.
    =================================================

    I think both of you are wrong. It’s not up to the coaching staff to prepare the Q. It’s up to the Q to prepare himself. He can make the throws, he just didn’t prepare himself for what happened out there. And it showed badly.

  508. J Hill Says:

    I love the idea of having a big guy as the slot WR though.

    Would like to see DHB lined up there from time to time as well.

  509. edward teach Says:

    J Hill Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 8:27 pm
    Hous = slot WR?

    That’s Jacoby Ford’s spot.

    ********************************************************

    That would be up to Hue Jackson, I think.

  510. Seymour Bush Says:

    J Hill Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 8:27 pm

    Hous = slot WR?

    That’s Jacoby Ford’s spot.
    ========================================

    How many receptions has Ford had the last three games?

  511. edward teach Says:

    Jhill,

    I suggested we put DHB there a month or so ago. He catches the short ball better and his size and speed would be a tough matchup for the other team.

  512. JLofty Says:

    Truth is we really don’t have a slot guy. Not yet anyway.
    Everyone WANTS Ford to be one but he hasn’t shown that at ALL. So if TJ can make some plays from the slot then AWESOME. Esp for vet min…

  513. Blackmamba_20 Says:

    510.Seymour Bush Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 8:31 pm
    J Hill Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 8:27 pm

    Hous = slot WR?

    That’s Jacoby Ford’s spot.
    ========================================

    How many receptions has Ford had the last three games?

    —–

    How manys he droped??

  514. Blackmamba_20 Says:

    so now were happy for 34 year old TJ (Diva) to take jacoby fords spot.. talk about melt down guys farrrk in hell

  515. Sullivan44 Says:

    Looks like Hue’s chance at head coach/GM will be one and done. These moves make real GM’s cringe. After Hue gets his pink, it’s going to even be harder getting a replacement HC. Who’s going to want to take over an organization that is dead in the water, and knows the next couple of years will be even worse?

  516. olinesux Says:

    that would be dumb to sit ford over housh…i cant stand slow recievers! Al is probably rolling right now (rip)…

  517. Sullivan44 Says:

    Look at the difference between head coaches in the bay area. Talk on 95.7 today was how many in the know say the best coached team in the NFL is the Niners. Also was pointed out Hue’s slew of blunders, including his 4th and goal he went for that could have cost team the game, and his rush to push Carson out there. Carson is on record saying he was never supposed to go in, and said he wasn’t ready. Hue is saying Carson was chomping at the bit to go in. Hue was obviously lying, and the hosts made that clear.

  518. Sullivan44 Says:

    We need a new billboard on 880. “We want a real GM and a real HC”

  519. kidseven Says:

    Sometimes I come to this blog and everyone is acting the fool and I wonder why I bother. And then sometimes I come here and find all of these really insightful comments and observations—-like today. I think those of you saying Hue might be making a mistake with some of these moves and could potentially lose the locker room are on to something.

    Whatever their skill level, we’re carrying a ton of WRs already, and except for a few drops last week, I wouldn’t pin a “lack of production” stamp on any of them just yet. There has been a huge chemistry shakeup now and I’m afraid I agree with those who suggest we could be in for more growing pains. I hope I’m wrong.

  520. Sullivan44 Says:

    Without Al to cry about Kell has nothing to say. Of course, he never had anything to say. Without Al to defend Priest has nothing to say. At least he had an opinion.

  521. kidseven Says:

    Yes, and that 4th and goal call was inexcusable. It was NOT, as someone suggested, one of those calls that makes you look like a genius if you get the 1st down—it was a terrible call in any case. The game was over if he kicked the FG. I like Hue and think he’s bringing a lot, but he does need to tighten up his game.

  522. Sullivan44 Says:

    Question. Does anyone really believe that the players on the team aren’t aware of the Bengal Connection? That losing guys they are close to, to be replaced by someone even less talented, isn’t going to rub some wrong? In the past the players always had Al to fear. Now they fear no one.

  523. Seymour Bush Says:

    Some of you guys have to be realistic. I know you want Moore and Hagan and Ford, but those guys are on pace to end up with 25 receptions for the SEASON. That is NOT very good. Thank the good Lord some of you guys are no where near the GM spot. This team would be 0-8.

  524. Sullivan44 Says:

    And what was as bad about the 4th and goal was Hue said he probably would do it again, “knowing me”. It’s pointed out he went from a sure win, to maybe losing it for the team, and Hue still says knowing himself, he’ll make the same mistake?

  525. Blackmamba_20 Says:

    @522 Lets hope there more professional than that. Hue cracks a hard whip, i think being that many a quite young there shouldnt be nay locker room unrest

  526. VanHeathen Says:

    Hue’s got my support,
    1st year HC, loses his GM/Owner & #1QB in a 10 day period. He’s trying to save this season, and our WR’s played poorly against KC, period.
    He knows we can win this division, and is trying to get that done…
    Besides, if you’ve been afollowing this team for long, you know Al didn’t give a CRAP about “Team Chemistry”…
    Just Win Baby!

  527. kidseven Says:

    “I know you want Moore and Hagan and Ford, but those guys are on pace to end up with 25 receptions for the SEASON.”

    Agreed, but I don’t think these stats reflect the WRs nearly as much as the QBs. Let’s just say I’ve found myself cussing about the throws far more than the drops or lazy routes–although I admit there has been plenty of both.

  528. Sullivan44 Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 8:48 pm

    Some of you guys have to be realistic. I know you want Moore and Hagan and Ford, but those guys are on pace to end up with 25 receptions for the SEASON. That is NOT very good. Thank the good Lord some of you guys are no where near the GM spot. This team would be 0-8.
    —————-
    Shut up, Oakglenn. The reason you change your name so much is because you keep making stupid comments, like above, and are tired of the abuse. If I were you, I would change my name as well. Something like BrownNose, or Moron.

  529. Seymour Bush Says:

    Blackmamba_20 Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 8:35 pm

    —–

    How manys he droped??
    =========================================

    I don’t think he’s dropped that many, but then I don’t think he has been targeted that much either. He’s not open. What you really don’t want to see is the Chokie Lee Higgins syndrome, where a guy comes in plays pretty well his lst year, and then regresses himself off the roster and out of the league.

  530. Blackmamba_20 Says:

    523.Seymour Bush Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 8:48 pm
    Some of you guys have to be realistic. I know you want Moore and Hagan and Ford, but those guys are on pace to end up with 25 receptions for the SEASON. That is NOT very good. Thank the good Lord some of you guys are no where near the GM spot. This team would be 0-8.

    ———

    And you think TJ is the saviour of our much maligned receiving corps ?? i hope thats the case bro, but Jacoby should not lose snaps for anyone. how short are ones memeroy..

  531. Blackmamba_20 Says:

    memory*

  532. Number 2 (as in do-do) Says:

    :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

    I wish I was a turd because I could be very comfortable in here, especially this morning.

    :mrgreen:

    :evil: :evil: :evil:

    SSSOOOOOOOO stank in here at times.

    MMMMMMMMMMMMMM–mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

  533. Blackmamba_20 Says:

    @Bush – dont get me wrong, i think you have a valid point and im rooting for TJ to play great for us, i just think Jacoby is victim of inconsistent QB play and oppurtunity

  534. Ass-O-Mine Says:

    Smells like ass……….

    :mrgreen:

  535. Seymour Bush Says:

    Wow, how do I get to be an internet troll?? Man, that seems to be the coolest gig out there! After I master that, can I shoot innocent unsuspecting animals with pellet guns right, and then graduate to wife beating and finally to dead beat dad??

  536. Seymour Bush Says:

    Blackmamba_20 Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 8:56 pm

    @Bush – dont get me wrong, i think you have a valid point and im rooting for TJ to play great for us, i just think Jacoby is victim of inconsistent QB play and oppurtunity
    ====================================

    Mamba I am with you. I was not in favor of the TJ signing, but you have to admit, there has really been a lack of production from the WR’s the last four weeks. And I mean a SERIOUS lack of production.

  537. Blackmamba_20 Says:

    if thats a grown ass man posting that then daymn son.

    TRAGICCCCCCCCCC

  538. Big Ass Balls Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 8:58 pm
    Wow, how do I get to be an internet troll?? Man, that seems to be the coolest gig out there! After I master that, can I shoot innocent unsuspecting animals with pellet guns right, and then graduate to wife beating and finally to dead beat dad??
    —————————————————-

    If you do NOT like the smell of ass, you can NOT be a troll. Trolls like ass…………..

    :mrgreen:

    :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

    :lol: :lol: :lol:

  539. Blackmamba_20 Says:

    Yeah bro agreed,

    I think Palmer can make throws we aint seen around here in awhile, so longs as he is up to speed or as close as can be then HOPEFULLY we can see an 100 yard game, what have we had 1 or 2 all season !!

    Please palmer be who we hope you can be.

  540. olinesux Says:

    the qb play before palmer stunted the receiver growth and playing tj over some of tgese young guys will continue that….

  541. red assed Says:

    9ers baby! yep yep :oops:

  542. Seymour Bush Says:

    Blackmamba_20 Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 9:03 pm

    Please palmer be who we hope you can be.
    =======================================

    Palmer I don’t worry about. I worry about Jackson. If Hue would just pound the rock at opponents, let them jam the box, Palmer is going to pick their carcasses to pieces. There is no way to defense that.

  543. Blackmamba_20 Says:

    as well as SOUP managed a game, he was restrcited in what throws he could make (or was willing to try) double edged sword i guess because it looks as though Palmer gonna throw them..

  544. JLofty Says:

    I don’t see a lot of risk in bringing in Housh. If the guy can pick up a few first downs and PAlmer feels a little warmer and fuzzier with a familiar pair of hands to throw to, great. Not like he’s costing much of anything. Clearly Hue doesn’t see much in Chaz. Either he or Tonga are getting the cut…

  545. Seymour Bush Says:

    olinesux Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 9:04 pm

    the qb play before palmer stunted the receiver growth and playing tj over some of tgese young guys will continue that….
    ==========================================

    I would agree the Q’s stunting the receiver growth but not that Houshmandzadeh will. Housh is not a long term solution. We all know that. What Housh can do is find soft spots in zone coverages. Hopefully he can teach the youngsters how to do that repeatedly.

  546. Blackmamba_20 Says:

    yeah man darren is eating up yards, so is bush and then we go complete sets without running.. Your on too something .. you think Darren plays vs donks

  547. JLofty Says:

    Yeah Hue sometimes gets away from the focus on O. And gets too cute. But he’s young and learning on the fly still. Just win (the AFC West) baby!

  548. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Raiders’ depth chart finally updated today:

    keys that I noticed:

    Mr. Palmer listed as starter, Mr. Campbell 3rd string all in italics (also an injured notation)

    Mr. Gordon listed as back up fullback to Mr. Reece, Mr. Tonga 3rd string

    Mr. Moss starting RDE

    Mr. Murphy listed ahead of Mr. Hagan who along Mr. Schilens are listed 3rd string

  549. JLofty Says:

    No I think DMcF sits another week….plays Thursday against Chargirls.

  550. Seymour Bush Says:

    JLofty Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 9:08 pm

    I don’t see a lot of risk in bringing in Housh. If the guy can pick up a few first downs and PAlmer feels a little warmer and fuzzier with a familiar pair of hands to throw to, great. Not like he’s costing much of anything. Clearly Hue doesn’t see much in Chaz. Either he or Tonga are getting the cut…
    ============================================

    Exactly. We’re not losing anything. Tonga is the odd man out, and Tonga was going off the roster now that Reece is back anyway.

  551. LA to TheBay Says:

    Weirder and weirder, Sybil.

  552. 504 Raider Says:

    If we didn’t get Palmer and Boller was the starter for this game going head to head with Tebow:

    We would win 2-0 by sacking Tebow in the endzone trying to attempt a “hail mary” with 3 seconds remaining in Overtime.

  553. Seymour Bush Says:

    Blackmamba_20 Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 9:09 pm

    yeah man darren is eating up yards, so is bush and then we go complete sets without running.. Your on too something .. you think Darren plays vs donks
    =============================================

    No. He is still not out of the boot. I think they will see Thurs or Fri if he can go, but look for him against the Dischargers.

  554. 504 Raider Says:

    On DMac’s foot injury:

    I have a bad feeling it’s Turf Toe and they’re just not keeping it real with us.

  555. Raiders Sign WR Houshmandzadeh Says:

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  556. Blackmamba_20 Says:

    553.Seymour Bush Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 9:13 pm
    Blackmamba_20 Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 9:09 pm

    yeah man darren is eating up yards, so is bush and then we go complete sets without running.. Your on too something .. you think Darren plays vs donks
    =============================================

    No. He is still not out of the boot. I think they will see Thurs or Fri if he can go, but look for him against the Dischargers.

    ———

    I really hope he only misses one more game if thats the case, as im a greedy prick who wants him to go for more rush yards than last year.. who better to run over than the ever fading Dischargers lol

  557. Blackmamba_20 Says:

    554.504 Raider Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 9:14 pm
    On DMac’s foot injury:

    I have a bad feeling it’s Turf Toe and they’re just not keeping it real with us.

    ——-

    fck fck fck fck

  558. Blackmamba_20 Says:

    I expect Kamerion and Curry both to get a sack this week…

  559. Seymour Bush Says:

    mamba did you see that game last night? Watching Rivers piss it away in the final seconds just warmed my heart.

  560. LA to TheBay Says:

    Bush and Jones can handle biz, doubt Hue rushes DMC back. Wrap that mothaf*cka up in celophane and don’t take him back out until he’s 100%.

  561. LA to TheBay Says:

    Not sure what to make of the Monday nighter.

    Guess I was happy Rivers isn’t playing his best football but obviously disappointed KC has this evened up with lots of momentum.

    I kept hoping the thing would just end in a tie. Almost did but not very realistic in 2011 NFL.

  562. Seymour Bush Says:

    554.504 Raider Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 9:14 pm
    On DMac’s foot injury:

    I have a bad feeling it’s Turf Toe and they’re just not keeping it real with us.
    ============================================

    I don’t think it’s turf toe, I think the Cheats were trying to hurt our players out there. McFadden went out when someone twisted his leg, and then one of their linemen dove at Palmers knees on his lst pass. Both of those were REALLY cheap.

  563. LA to TheBay Says:

    I don’t think it’s turf toe, I think the Cheats were trying to hurt our players out there. McFadden went out when someone twisted his leg, and then one of their linemen dove at Palmers knees on his lst pass. Both of those were REALLY cheap.

    ———-

    And the taunting penalties?

    Man.

    Don’t wanna sound like too much of a fan here, but KC lucky they came and played us when they did, with basically no QB out there.

    We gift wrapped them a win with 6 INTs and their O still only managed 7 points off of, 14 total.

  564. Blackmamba_20 Says:

    559.Seymour Bush Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 9:18 pm
    mamba did you see that game last night? Watching Rivers piss it away in the final seconds just warmed my heart.

    ——

    Brother its was literaly L.O.L moment, he had 2 pick in like 5 mins, Rivers is coping some real heat right now. annnnnnnnnd i love it

  565. Seymour Bush Says:

    LA to TheBay Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 9:20 pm

    Not sure what to make of the Monday nighter.

    Guess I was happy Rivers isn’t playing his best football but obviously disappointed KC has this evened up with lots of momentum.
    ==========================================

    Going into the season, you had to give the Dischargers the nod. Halfway thru the season before last night, you had to give the Dischargers the nod. After that devastating loss, it’s a wide open field, and we are right in the hunt, and guess what? We just signed a marquee Q who has not seen really any action yet. Sucks to be everyone BUT us.

  566. LA to TheBay Says:

    KC manufactures wins and that’s what good teams do but they’re not THAT good. They had 2 games absolutely handed to them by the supposed top dogs of the AFC West.

    Good news is we get to play them again.

    Can’t wait.

  567. Seymour Bush Says:

    Good for Kansas Shi**y! They’re in the hunt too. Great. Stand and fight!

  568. Blackmamba_20 Says:

    like the fag Bart scott says, “CANT WAIT” To hand it to the queefs

  569. LA to TheBay Says:

    Palmer could very well end up being the best QB in the AFC West by the end of November if Rivers keeps playing the way he has.

  570. Seymour Bush Says:

    LA to TheBay Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 9:26 pm

    KC manufactures wins and that’s what good teams do but they’re not THAT good. They had 2 games absolutely handed to them by the supposed top dogs of the AFC West.
    =================================================

    You are exactly right. I don’t think they beat us. I think WE lost that game. Right now I am not worried about them, I am worried about Dungver. Let’s just beat Dungver and go 5-3. That is all I care about right now.

  571. LA to TheBay Says:

    AFC West all got a tough schedule and we still have a game against each remaining (SD, 2).

    Gonna be a dogfight this year.

  572. LA to TheBay Says:

    Let’s just beat Dungver and go 5-3. That is all I care about right now.
    ———

    Yup, yup. Good point.

    CP3 will have had 3 weeks to prepare for the Donks. Has a familiar set of hands to throw to. DHB looking legit.

    Bush can just wear em down. T Jones change of pace, hopefully a big strike or two.

    That kid’s got some f*cking moves.

    He was ballin against the Saints 1s in presea.

    Maybe not such a bad thing with what down last week. Bringing people down to Earth. Allowed Carson to get his feet wet early. Good look at Jones.

  573. Blackmamba_20 Says:

    Im slightly nervous about the game vs donks, as its the unknown with tebow.. but we have a chance to really get back on track with a good solid win playing well in all facets

  574. uglyorc Says:

    Some of you guys have to be realistic. I know you want Moore and Hagan and Ford, but those guys are on pace to end up with 25 receptions for the SEASON. That is NOT very good. Thank the good Lord some of you guys are no where near the GM spot. This team would be 0-8.

    ————————————————–

    Exactly. Funny how many people on message boards think they are smarter than NFL coaches and managers. Makes it worse when the message board is here because the reporter here has fooled these fools. Schilens? lol Hagan? ROFLMAO. Moore will likely be pretty good but like most rookies he sucks against the bump and at running routes. Maybe in 2012 or 2013 Moore will become starter material. Ford has a size handicap. Until someone other than DHB steps up, we should take what help we can get.

  575. LA to TheBay Says:

    Seems like most everybody taking this coming game for granted, just like the KC game last week.

    Like I said about Tebow the other day, he’s overhyped but can;t be underestimated.

    He could play like sh;t for 58 minutes, but if he’s within a score of a W, he could pull it out. Tough kid.

    Gotta make them one dimensional.

    My gut feeling is the players aren’t overlooking this one at all. They hungry for a win.

  576. qodrn Says:

    Tuesday college game:

    Northern Illinois 63, Toledo 60.

    Lots of highlights.

  577. Blackmamba_20 Says:

    @ 575 please see 573

  578. LA to TheBay Says:

    qodrn Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 9:37 pm
    Tuesday college game:

    Northern Illinois 63, Toledo 60.

    Lots of highlights.

    ——–

    LOL, college basketball score.

    They even put any defensive players out there or whoever has the ball last wins?

    There was a crazy game last year or year before between Tulsa and some other Mickey Mouse outfit like that.

  579. djohnnyg Says:

    565.Seymour Bush Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 9:25 pm
    LA to TheBay Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 9:20 pm

    Not sure what to make of the Monday nighter.

    Guess I was happy Rivers isn’t playing his best football but obviously disappointed KC has this evened up with lots of momentum.
    ==========================================

    Going into the season, you had to give the Dischargers the nod. Halfway thru the season before last night, you had to give the Dischargers the nod. After that devastating loss, it’s a wide open field, and we are right in the hunt, and guess what? We just signed a marquee Q who has not seen really any action yet. Sucks to be everyone BUT us.

    Rivers is a competitor, but i think we’re seeing some kinks in the armor.

    Hey, we have Carson freaking Palmer. I hope that means something.

    The NFLNetwork fan poll has Raiders winning division 60%, Chiefs 9%, Chargers, 31%. Means nothing. Just thought i’d share…again.

  580. RaiderDebo Says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoEpAVK2XXk

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    A little disconcerting when you consider how right he was about Tebow. Hilarious nonetheless.

  581. The Realist Dirty Raccoon Says:

    Is Litto better than Fabian Washington right now?

  582. Sullivan44 Says:

    What more do people need to be convinced that Tebow wouldn’t be in the league if it wasn’t for his image? Anyone else has a game like he did Sunday, they’re at least benched, if not given a bus ticket.

  583. LA to TheBay Says:

    OAK
    v. Denver (2-5)
    @ SD (4-3)
    @ MIN (2-6)
    v. CHI (4-3)
    @ MIA (0-7)
    @ GB (7-0)
    v. DET (6-2)
    @ KC (4-3)
    v. SD (4-3)

    SD
    v. GB (7-0)
    v. OAK (4-3)
    @ CHI (4-3)
    v. DEN (2-5)
    @ JAX (2-6)
    v. BUF (5-2)
    v. BAL (5-2)
    @ DET (6-2)
    @ OAK (4-3)

    KC
    v. MIA (0-7)
    v. DEN (2-5)
    @ NE (5-2)
    v. PIT (6-2)
    @ CHI (4-3)
    @ NYJ (4-3)
    v. GB (7-0)
    v. OAK (4-3)
    @ DEN (2-5)

    It’s gonna be a dogfight. Really hoping that Denver beats KC in week 17 for pride purposes, cause that may end up being a crucial week.

    We got a tough game against SD.

    Gotta keep pace with KC. AFC West schedule gets brutal late in the year.

  584. rob_raider Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 8:36 pm
    Looks like Hue’s chance at head coach/GM will be one and done. These moves make real GM’s cringe. After Hue gets his pink, it’s going to even be harder getting a replacement HC. Who’s going to want to take over an organization that is dead in the water, and knows the next couple of years will be even worse?
    ***************

    for f*ck’s sake, sullivan, would u make up ur mind? u have gone on and on about how u like hue. now u think he sucks. u hated al. then u talk about how players used to fear him. what the heck do u even believe?

    the team is doing well. tied for 1st in our division. we just traded for a legit #1 QB. now we make a minor addition like TJ, and suddenly hue is horrible. ridiculous. adding TJ and cutting whoever is just a little move that might make us better. no big deal.

  585. rob_raider Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 9:59 pm
    What more do people need to be convinced that Tebow wouldn’t be in the league if it wasn’t for his image? Anyone else has a game like he did Sunday, they’re at least benched, if not given a bus ticket.

    ***********

    really? what about blaine gabbert last week? or david carr as a rookie? or peyton manning as a rookie? again, u prove ur ignorance.

  586. 504 Raider Says:

    Looking at that remaining schedule here’s how I see it:

    Us: 11-5
    SD: 7-9
    KC: 7-9

  587. LA to TheBay Says:

    MR,

    Please.

    The religion thing and the NFL’s effort to market Tebow’s image bothers me as much as it does you, but you can’t overlook the guy’s production in college.

    Now, like any great college athlete that doesn’t pan out in the pros, he’ll get the axe, just the same. May take a bit longer than others but I don’t see guys like Elway and Fox giving him an extra year to ‘progress.’

  588. Sullivan44 Says:

    It’s not just one game, Rob. Tebow is yet to prove in the slightest that he has the arm for this league. And I mean in the slightest. The other people you named, that wasn’t the case.

  589. Sullivan44 Says:

    LA to the Bay,

    have you even tried to imagine Tebow being in the position he’s in without the whole Christian persona? You can picture him not only being in the league, but starting? With his performances thus far?

  590. 504 Raider Says:

    We will win this division by the first verse of the “12 days of Christmas.”

  591. LA to TheBay Says:

    I could see 8-8 or 9-7 for all three teams, LOL.

    Gonna come down to who can own the division and steal a game or two against a top tier team.

  592. Sullivan44 Says:

    The events that have transpired this season have changed so much already. Remember when the schedule came out and we just marked an “L” by Green Bay? I’m starting to think it’s winnable now. If Carson Palmer gets back to his A-game.

  593. LA to TheBay Says:

    MR,

    Like any QB situation, that really sort of depends.

    What is Denver’s alternative?

    They’re 2-5 and Orton has been as bad, just in different ways.

    Depends on the team and the present situation. I don’t think the Christian thing has much to do with it, no.

  594. 504 Raider Says:

    Hey screw Tebow!
    If he was on the field this Saturday night in the LSU/Bama game I would feel good to have him as my LSU QB.

    In the pros he’s going against men with kids, mortgages, child support payments, wives, girlfriends on the side, etc.

    In College, he went up against 18 and 19 year olds that had zits and Biology on Mondays.

  595. Sullivan44 Says:

    Well, LA, like I said, we don’t even have to discuss it. I can just ask you or anyone to just picture him still starting if not for the all out man-crush that the “business” of the NFL has for him. Pretend you never knew he was this huge Christian persona, and watch his highlights, his NFL highlights. Tell me he’s still starting in Denver’s next game, under these circumstances. You don’t even have to respond. It’s a thinking exercise.

  596. LA to TheBay Says:

    Tebow’s initial hype, draft position and press? Sure.

    The press he gets currently still has a lot to do with his Christian image but I think people are intrigued to see if that style of QB can succeed in the NFL.

    Football guys, including his coaches, know exactly what he is.

  597. LA to TheBay Says:

    I did imagine and I honestly think Elway and John Fox don’t give a sh;t about Tebow’s image.

  598. Blackmamba_20 Says:

    We need to handle ours and the result will follow, sack sack sack…play mean, play like a bully

  599. Sullivan44 Says:

    Love or hate Jim Rome, he put it best. How bad does Tebow have to stink up the joint before people get it?

  600. Sullivan44 Says:

    John Fox probably doesn’t care about the image thing. But Elway? You can’t be that naive. You’re obviously not familiar with Elway’s politics.

  601. Blackmamba_20 Says:

    Curry coming out party this week…

  602. LA to TheBay Says:

    We shut down Denver’s run game, we can force Tebow to be Tebow.

    He’s gonna get some runs. Almost a given. Only reason I think he’s still a starter, because he can extend plays with his feet.

  603. djohnnyg Says:

    # 594,

    Just like Jamarcus.

    People are enamored with Tebow cuz he supposedly has this whole “winner thing”.

    They say “He just wins…period.”

    He has a tremendous college record and even with all his awful play, he’s a bordering on average 2-3 as a pro.

    That Lions game really exposed him though. I think people still wanna give him another chance to see if that was just a bad game.

  604. Blackmamba_20 Says:

    I just watched the donks vs green bay superbowl where elways run for 1 st down gets him airbourne.. Dude landed an was like whoa fck i made it..

  605. Sullivan44 Says:

    You would have thought the NFL would have learned their lesson with this marketing of players attempting to out-Christian each other when Pittsburg punched Kurt Warner and the Cardinals in the mouth in the SB a few years back. As they say, God works in mysterious ways. And on that day, he wanted Warner to lose. It’s a bad concept that just backfires. Sell the game with good football, not with marketing the cross.

  606. Blackmamba_20 Says:

    I wont be upset if he plays terrible this week, then lights up our div rivals… But if we end his broncos career as a starter then so be it…go get em boyzz

  607. LA to TheBay Says:

    What, because of the golf republican thing?

    Tebow may sell jerseys, but Elway was brought in to put a winning product on the field.

    Don’t think a QB as good as Elway was will have a Tim Tebow as the franchise QB sit well with him.

  608. djohnnyg Says:

    605,

    Yeah, as if God is sitting around with a remote in his hand flipping channels with his NFL Sunday Ticket subscription picking out who he’s gonna make win and lose that day.

  609. Sullivan44 Says:

    La to the Bay,

    Not so much the golf. But the republican thing? Uh, yeah. That’s what I’m talking about. Elway is outspoken and passionate about his politics. And if you know what his politics are, you know you’d have to have your head in the sand to not believe that his unwavering support for this horrible QB is connected to it.

  610. Blackmamba_20 Says:

    Then its brady quinn…because ortons record is disgusting since the 6-0 mcdaniels start, i know its not all his fault but you live an die by your record.. That have to give tebow a game or 2 more just to know

  611. djohnnyg Says:

    God may be mad at the Cowboys for moving his stadium on him.

  612. LA to TheBay Says:

    Elway and Fox are probably going to be picking in the top 5 with a shot at trading for Luck, effectively ending the Tebow era and Tebow’s career as a QB.

    Unless he does some crazy good things in the next 9 weeks, he’s going to be on the couch or learning a new position.

  613. Sullivan44 Says:

    DjohnnyG,

    Are you a Christian? You don’t believe in God’s divine plan? Because Santonio’s catch looked divine to me. lol.

  614. Sullivan44 Says:

    Denver playing Tebow to stink up the joint so they can move up in the Luck sweepstakes? I can buy that

  615. LA to TheBay Says:

    Does Tebow have Elway’s unwavering support?

    Not so sure about that. If he loses against us on Sunday, that support will be tested in a major way and I think you see Orton back out there.

  616. Sullivan44 Says:

    BTW, I’m NOT a Christian. I’m just fact checking Christians on their beliefs. According to them, God has a divine plan, does he not? So wouldn’t God’s divine plan on the day of that Super Bowl had to have included Warner going home with his tail between his legs?

  617. LA to TheBay Says:

    The only scenario I can see Tebow still on the field and not getting Ws is where the idea is “fck it, let’s ride this out for the year, we’re already done. See what he’s got. If and when he turns out to be what we thought coming in, we go in a different direction.”

  618. Sullivan44 Says:

    As if Elway’s support wasn’t tested last week. Tebow is yet to prove in any way that he’s a passer in this league. Elway the football has him on the bench right now. But clearly it’s not Elway the football guy making the decisions regarding Tebow. It’s another facet of his belief system.

  619. djohnnyg Says:

    #613,

    I think God was mad at a guy from Iowa (Kurt Warner) that day for sounding too “ghetto” in interviews so he made him pay…dearly.

  620. LA to TheBay Says:

    BTW, I’m NOT a Christian
    ———-

    Don’t think you’re inany danger of being accused of that.

    And yes, you talk to a Christian, they’ll tell you that Warner’s SB loss is a test of some kind and the way it was meant to be.

    The guy who prays more doesn’t happen to have all these good things happen to him, he’ll just end up in the right place when all is said and done.

    Personally, I think the belief that there is no control over one’s life and that history is already predetermined is BS.

    Cause and effect, decisions one makes and pure dumb luck will determine your direction.

  621. LA to TheBay Says:

    To paraphrase Matthew, the rain falls on the just and the unjust alike.

    Sounds like a built in excuse for Christians as to why good things happen to good people, but if you look at that statement just on it’s own, I take it to mean “sh;t happens.”

  622. LA to TheBay Says:

    why BAD things happen to good people*

  623. Sullivan44 Says:

    LA to the Bay,

    I don’t see where Christian sports fans have learned their lesson regarding the fact that their God clearly doesn’t favor those who pray the most, assuming he exists. Their attraction to Tebow is the same attraction they had to Warner leading up to that Super Bowl. They thought he was going to win because he was the back to back to back champion of the NFL’s unofficial Christianity pissing contest, just like their faith in Tebow now.

  624. qodrn Says:

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    Protected by the rally squirrel and Coliseum rodents

    First: Ghostraider (exact score)
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    Honorable Mention: LA for PAIN
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  625. LA to TheBay Says:

    If Elway is keeping Tebow 1st on the depth chart because of some ridiculous notion of shared faith, the Broncos organization made a terrible move in hiring him.

    Besides, people are still people. And Elway was a great QB. He watches Tebow butcher the position and I guarantee you, it makes him feel queasy, god or not.

  626. qodrn Says:

    re 578

    The team that had the ball last actually lost; it was Toledo. They came very close to scoring on one of those pass the ball to the whole team kind of plays though. One guy caught five TDs, another guy ran back two kickoffs for TDs.

    Clearly, the defenses were gassed out early.

  627. Sullivan44 Says:

    LA to TheBay Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 10:41 pm

    To paraphrase Matthew, the rain falls on the just and the unjust alike.

    ………..

    As with a lot of high profile Christians today, be it in politics or sports, they cherry pick bits and pieces from the bible that suit their agenda best. These Tebow supporters do not spend a lot of time thinking about Matthew’s warning.

  628. djohnnyg Says:

    I was raised Catholic and believe in God, but i don’t think he has a favorite football team, but if he does, i don’t think it’s the Raiders necessarily.

  629. Blackmamba_20 Says:

    How do we feel n.o 1 d back stanford routt has performed ….??? So far

  630. Kirk Says:

    Tebow is a good quarterback, but he plays for a terrible team that is not using him correctly.

    He’s a running quarterback, and they do not run plays that play to his strength.

    They should be running naked bootlegs and roll outs.

  631. djohnnyg Says:

    “Religion is a snare and a racket”

    -Charles Taze Russell (Founder of Jehovah’s Witnesses).

  632. qodrn Says:

    Still like that score:

    N. Illinois 63, Toledo 60.

    Maybe the game was in honor of the opening of basketball season, which would have been tonight.

  633. Sullivan44 Says:

    Well, LA to the BAy, somebody is responsible for the fact that the worst QB in the game today is going to get another chance, when their punter is probably better than him, let alone the other QBs on the depth chart. Whoever it is should be fired. And, again, if you’re familiar with Elway’s politics and how outspoken he’s been the past few years, it shouldn’t surprise you that Elway would make football related decisions with his politics in mind.

  634. LA to TheBay Says:

    I can only explain what I’ve gathered from Christian people, MR. Hard for me to put myself in that mindset because it’s so irrational.

    If anything, I would pray to god that I played my best and left it all out on the field and winning would take care of itself.

    There are enough Christians on any given NFL team that, whoever wins, god was at least .500 that day.

    You get into a whole other matter when you’re talking about people praying to win. Again, there are built in excuses the whole way (IE “I didn’t win but that wasn’t god’s plan for me, so it must be for me to be humbled”)

  635. qodrn Says:

    Re:God and football

    God did have a favorite college team, Notre Dame, but they fell out of favor by violating a number of canons.

  636. LA to TheBay Says:

    MR, if that’s true, I hope Elway sticks around for a loooooooooong time, LOL.

  637. Sullivan44 Says:

    636,

    Hear, hear.

  638. djohnnyg Says:

    629.Blackmamba_20 Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 10:46 pm
    How do we feel n.o 1 d back stanford routt has performed ….??? So far

    I for one am not impressed. I guess he’s been “ok”..maybe average.

    Speaking of Routt, he was the one that let that Tebow pass go right through his hands last year for a TD.

  639. LA to TheBay Says:

    Routt is ok.

    Not bad. Not great. Probably a better #1 CB than most teams have.

    Makes some pretty impressive plays, lets by some you’d think he would have down by now.

    If other teams wanna give him the Nnamdi treatment, fine by me.

  640. djohnnyg Says:

    625.LA to TheBay Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 10:44 pm
    If Elway is keeping Tebow 1st on the depth chart because of some ridiculous notion of shared faith, the Broncos organization made a terrible move in hiring him.

    Besides, people are still people. And Elway was a great QB. He watches Tebow butcher the position and I guarantee you, it makes him feel queasy, god or not.

    You gotta think it has alot to do with Tebow being a first round draft pick. Even if Elway knows he sucks, he almost has to at least throw him out there so that nobody comes back and says “you never gave your first rounder a chance to even play”. imo.

  641. JB Says:

    Kirk Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 10:47 pm

    Tebow is a good quarterback, but he plays for a terrible team that is not using him correctly.

    He’s a running quarterback, and they do not run plays that play to his strength.

    They should be running naked bootlegs and roll outs.
    ********************

    One major difference, running QB’s can pass accurately, Tebow can’t. What we know:
    • He’s not an NFL passing QB
    • He’s not an NFL RB
    • He’s not a WR – can’t catch’
    • He’s not a TE – see above
    • He’s not a blocking FB
    • He’s too small for a lineman
    • He can’t kick
    • He has no defensive experience
    • He’s not a coach

    So, what he hell is he? Only one thing left:
    • He’s the team cheerleader who part times it as the team Chaplin.

  642. Sullivan44 Says:

    I can only say this for what it’s worth. There is another person posting under the name “Sullivan44″. You don’t have to believe me. But I noticed earlier that Rob was frustrated with my flip flopping. Well, there’s no flip flopping. The bottom line is, there is another person posting under this name. I’m not going to change my name, or wear myself out trying to track down all of the comment numbers to disassociate myself with them. Anyone who’s been here for some time knows me and knows where I stand on most things Raiders and otherwise. If you’re not smart enough to detect a fraud, I can’t help you.

  643. LA to TheBay Says:

    640.

    Sure. Current regime in Denver inherited Tebow. Kind of had to give him a shot but don’t have to stick with him any longer than this season by any means.

    Their week 1 starter was Orton, for what it’s worth.

    I think you see 2 or 3 new QBs in Denver next year.

  644. Blackmamba_20 Says:

    Oh that one that went through his hands was criminal…cool thanks guys, i was thinkng i hadnt heard his name much, which i guess is good…

    Hanging out like crazy for a mike mitchell king hit

  645. ghostraiders Says:

    Don’t be surprised if Campbell lands in Denver next season

  646. Blackmamba_20 Says:

    Whos taking punts these days, cant we get t jones on there…if he can catch it we could see some fire works..if he can catch it

  647. LA to TheBay Says:

    MR, can’t be too mad at it. The boy who cried wolf.

    Whereas it obviously can’t be proven, the presumtion is that you come in and post nonsense under other handles, talk to yourself, etc.

    There’s at least one troll in here that’s responsible for a slew of handles and strange posts.

    I rarely have a problem with anything you put under the “Sullivan44,” though I often disagree.

    Same dude with the weird sh’t is probably the same dude that was “Jaws” when Cooper became lost at sea. Presumed to be you. It’s also presumed you were Barry Halverson.

    Rather than say, ‘nope, wasn’t me,’ you take the ‘won’t dignify that with a response’ type reaction and say prove it.

    I guess the appeal is to fck with people and stir up sh;t. Don’t get it. Some of it’s funny. Some disturbing. Pretty strange.

  648. Sullivan44 Says:

    Campbell will never be a great QB in this league. As I said weeks ago, I really don’t think he cares. I don’t think he’s nutty enough for football. He’s too sane. Way too cool. Not Joe Montana cool, but more like James Bond cool. Just too good for getting all muddy on a football field. The eventual QB change had to be made. If Campbell ends up in Denver, that’s fine. I think they’ll get the same spotty, inconsistent performance out of him that we did.

  649. Blackmamba_20 Says:

    Oh ghost whats up dawg… Soup in denver mmmm feel sorry for dude

  650. LA to TheBay Says:

    Despite a lot of good Campbell did here, I must agree in that Campbell will never be great. He just misses on too many throws a 7 year guy should make.

  651. Sullivan44 Says:

    Well, LA to the Bay, just remember that there’s no way you can prove that it’s not YOU posting under my name, either. So, nobody should point fingers or play high and mighty. Just figured I’d throw out a quick heads up.

  652. Blackmamba_20 Says:

    @647 whoa someone said they were jaws…man thats sick … Very sad that cooper thing, i preyd he would make it… Some sick puppies up in here

  653. LA to TheBay Says:

    Don’t be surprised if Campbell lands in Denver next season

    ———–

    Wouln’t be. I’m sure he’d love to play us twice a year. He seems like a stop gap guy though. Like if you drafted a rookie QB, you’d start him behind Campbell until Campbell stunk or got injured.

  654. Sullivan44 Says:

    Well if Elway’s still in Denver Campbell had better buy enough bibles to take with him everywhere, and some knee pads. That’s the only way you get a starting gig in Denver these days.

  655. LA to TheBay Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 11:11 pm
    Well, LA to the Bay, just remember that there’s no way you can prove that it’s not YOU posting under my name, either. So, nobody should point fingers or play high and mighty. Just figured I’d throw out a quick heads up.

    ————-

    No there isn’t but I can tell you right now, I don’t have the energy or desire to do it.

  656. LA to TheBay Says:

    If I come off like playing high and mighty, then sorry. Not my intent. Some of the sh;t on here makes me absolutely crack up but a lot is just an eyesore and some of it is just repulsive. Not my style to cross post.

    I’m too high on my own opinions and too cocky/proud of being LA to TheBay to be anyone else.

  657. Sullivan44 Says:

    LA to TheBay Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 11:15 pm

    No there isn’t but I can tell you right now, I don’t have the energy or desire to do it.

    ……….

    I think you do have the energy and desire to do it, actually. You’re here a lot, and you clearly have some strong views. The motive is there. But of course, that doesn’t prove anything, just like your “presumptions” that I post under multiple handles and “talk to myself” doesn’t prove anything. That’s why I said, let’s not play high and mighty or point fingers. I just wanted to give a heads up that someone was posting under my name so they wouldn’t be confused as to my points of view on things, that’s all. I wasn’t making any kind of amends or search for any kind of redemption of acceptance.

  658. LA to TheBay Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 11:15 pm
    Well if Elway’s still in Denver Campbell had better buy enough bibles to take with him everywhere, and some knee pads. That’s the only way you get a starting gig in Denver these days.

    ———–

    Safe money is that Campbell’s a Christian anyway. Brothaman is from VA, MD area? Would be shocked if he wasn’t at LEAST a non-practicing Christian. Sure a lot of his youth was spent at church and church functions.

    Different in the black community.

    Think a lot of the Tebow Christian hype machine is fueled by the fact he’s a white boy and not a pure passer.

  659. LA to TheBay Says:

    I wasn’t making any kind of amends or search for any kind of redemption of acceptance.
    ——–

    And I’d never accuse you of such, lol.

    If anything, seems to me like the sudden ‘change of heart’ regarding Hue was just another effort to stir the sh;t.

    Thought registration was supposed to prevent others from using your handle. Clear it’s not working because I’ve seen some uncharacteristic comments from certain people.

    Thought it may the way certain letters are capitalized, but its not that either.

  660. Zymurge Says:

    that would be dumb to sit ford over housh…i cant stand slow recievers! Al is probably rolling right now (rip)…

    —-

    Do you hate on totally unsuccessful WRs like Larry Fitzgerald, Anquan Boldin, Terrell Owens, Brandon Marshall, Dwayne Bowe, Marques Colston, etc — all with slower than 4.50 in their combine 40 time?

    Housh is on the team to fill a specific need, and that’s to be a big, reliable target for possession downs. For all we know, he’ll only come on to the field for the types of sets that Hagan is used for now. Think of him as smaller, more mobile split out TE.

    It’s also pretty likely that the reason hs is on the team now is because he got a ringing endorsement from CP3. He probably told Hue that TJ has game left and that he has good timing with him from the workouts. It could very well be that the TJ era only lasts 3-4 games until CP3 establishes better timing with a few of the other Raiders WRs. If, along the way, he ends up being pretty successful, then all the better and he stays on the roster and keeps making plays.

  661. LA to TheBay Says:

    I think you do have the energy and desire to do it, actually. You’re here a lot, and you clearly have some strong views. The motive is there
    —————-

    My views are strong. All the more reason I wish to communicate them from one handle.

  662. Zymurge Says:

    @Qodrn – my prediction is that the Raiders open up a can of whoopazz on the Donks, just to make sure that everyone knows the KC game was a fluke. I see CP3 throwing 3 TDs, the ground game breaking about 150, and the D racking up sacks and grabbing a few turnovers.

    Raiders 41, Donkeys 13

  663. LA to TheBay Says:

    TJ could mean more 4 WR sets and he doesn’t take snaps from Ford or Murphy/Chaz. Hagan wasn’t seeing the field a whole lot anyhow.

    I like Hagan. He seems like a serious dude who has his head in the playbook and has no desire other than to be an NFL player.

    He has added value on special teams as well. He’s prevented at least 2 punts from crossing into the endzone. Doubt you get that from TJ.

    Think it’s Chaz or Tonga that got the axe. Maybe Ausberry.

  664. mcthompso Says:

    If we’re cutting a WR, my preference would be Murphy. He was plagued by drops in the past, and he’s only been successful b/c DHB was terrible, and Chaz was hurt. Couple that with his new gunshy mentality, and he just doesn’t seem like the best fit. Chaz is frustrating, but can still be a part of the offense. Hagan seems like oddd man out, as he is new, and getting few reps…but he brings some reliability to the table.

    What’s up with Bruce Campbell? Is he healthy yet? If not, I suppose he could be an IR candidate, and we could roll with too many WR’s until we need to pick up OL. Why not drop Meyers? When Boss is hurt, we have Gordon as a blocker, and Ausberry as a receiver, still works as a reasonable tandem in a pinch.

    I guess I throw out these names b/c I’m still intrigued with Chaz after these years of letdowns.

    Not keen on the move…would’ve liked it better in preseason, before curiosity piqued for Hagan. Now, it seems moot except for the rapport with Palmer.

  665. LA to TheBay Says:

    It makes sense having TJ here. He’s familiar with Carson, Hue and the system. CP3’s timing with him is already there.

    I guess the knock on TJ is that he’s an @$$hole, and we’ve been avoiding these types here as of late, but truth is we have several @$$holes on the team.

    I think we need to avoid DIVAS. Is TJ that? Don’t think so. He seems like a guy that has a lot of confidence in himself and wants the ball all the time. So did Jerry Rice. I want a guy like that on my team.

    Far as I know, he wears loud @$$ suits and complains of not getting the ball enough but he’s not out at the club strapped or beatin down women at his crib or anything.

    He’s here for a prorated vet minimum. Whoever got cut probably won’t be missed that much.

  666. LA to TheBay Says:

    Bruce Campbell has not been a name mentioned yet. Interesting. Think he probably sticks because he has experience now at G and T and can be a backup.

    Anyone know the rules of placing a guy on IR if he don’t show up on an injury report?

    Think Campbell has been healthy for a while, just not seeing the field much.

  667. LA to TheBay Says:

    Man, for 20 bucks, hard to beat Decourtet. That and some Mexican Coke (Coca Cola, punks) go pretty well together.

    Finish it off with some Diesel or Sourberry or whatever stupid name they wanna come up with these days and some TJ Houshojptpfdgfprgpfada highlights.

  668. Sullivan44 Says:

    Campbell may be a Christian, but I haven’t seem where he’s a full blown bible thumper like Tebow. Campbell seems like a mature adult.

  669. Slurp Slurp Says:

    Heres hopin the broncos dont ffffffffffaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrtttttttttttttttttt on the Raiders.

    Raiders 40
    FartFart 10

    :mrgreen:

    yip yip

  670. LA to TheBay Says:

    You can tell JC was well liked in Alameda.

    Gonna take a while for teammates to get acclimated to Palmer.

    I bet you DHB is excited as hell about the move.

    He, more than anyone else, was over on the bench talking to CP during the KC game.

    Carson gonna make him look real good and vice versa.

    Only slightly concerned about the impact CP trade and TJ signing has on locker room. Hopefully, these guys stay pros and go out, do their job and win.

  671. LA to TheBay Says:

    Man, if you are a troll, this is just priceless….

    —————-

    Campbell seems like a mature adult.

    Slurp Slurp Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 11:52 pm
    Heres hopin the broncos dont ffffffffffaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrtttttttttttttttttt on the Raiders.

    Raiders 40
    FartFart 10

    yip yip

  672. Car Wash Dude Says:

    Man, I am a car wash freak. Love hangin out at car washes. Cars go in dirty and come out clean. Truly unbelievable. Car washes are the schit.

  673. LA to TheBay Says:

    LOL, uh yeah, bout that time.

    Be good, Nation.

  674. Sullivan44 Says:

    Don’t think Campbell’s departure will rattle the locker room. These guys are in the NFL. They know what a real NFL QB is, and know Campbell was just a stop gap.

  675. mcfadden20. Says:

    Wassup nation ? What’s good ? Shout out to my laker brothers , Ghost and one and only the deadliest snake in the world Black Mamba …
    Ok so what’s on the cart today … Mm let’s see some tebow , Palmer , coach Jackson , Tj hues who , Sullivan , and etc etc ….

    Tebow : great player in college with those trick plays and playing against his level of competition , but pro football is whole different animal , we have players who are paid to play and highest paid coaches in league… And anybody think what kinda plays he ran in college football would succeed in pro football against 11 good players? He could be a good fb or even TE but qb is a different animal in this league … So let’s drop the story there

    Hue ; he got us 4-3 so far, when was the last time we had a coach who who had us above .500 after 7 games oh yah u have to go far as 2002 and don’t say that we have a better team that’s why were winning ? Remember 1990’s raiders were regarded as one of the most talented teams in the league , but common theme was ? We had no good coach… And so far we have a good coach this year

    Tj : its not about what he has done in past, it’s about what he will bring to the raiders leadership wise , our wr’s will look upto him as our D-line looks upto Seymour because he has been there , done it ..It will pay huge dividends to our wr’s who are pretty young

    Palmer : is there any doubt he’s better than campbell , QB is the one of the most important position on a football team , any doubts? Look no further than the colts and you will find out
    Whats having a good qb for ur team means ..

  676. mcfadden20. Says:

    Code black or whatever that helps us win this division and in the playoffs and also in superbowl

  677. mcfadden20. Says:

    It looks like everyone is sleeping so I’ll get back to watching bill cosby that f%cker is one of the funniest guy in the world

  678. qodrn Says:

    THE RAIDER PREDICTION BOARD
    Dedicated to the legacy of Al Davis
    Protected by the rally squirrel and Coliseum rodents

    First: Ghostraider (exact score)
    Second: Sullivan44
    Third: Pretty Rick
    Fourth: Sullivan44
    Fifth: Fingers
    Sixth: Zymurge Raiders 23, Browns 17
    Honorable Mention: LA for PAIN
    Seventh: Noone…at all.

    8RaiderReign8 Raiders 31 Broncos 6
    860Todd Christensen Raiders 38 Donks 9
    Blackmamba_20 Raiders 31 Denver 13
    Cole Ford Raiders 20….Broncos 7
    DonManoukiansNeighbor Raiders 21 Tebones 10
    DeuceDeuce Raiders 31 Broncos 20
    exlaraiderseasonticketholder Raiders 34 Donkeys 17
    fingers Raiders..35….. Donks 13….
    GG Raiders 41 Broncos 13
    ghostraiders Raiders 27. Broncos 17
    mcfadden20. 39-13 Raiders
    Mum-O-killowe Raiders 38 Donks 9
    PlunkforHOF My beloved Oakland Raiders: 27
    Horse-Faced Crybabys:
    r8dercain Raiders 28 Broncos 13
    Raiders_83 Raiders 35 Donkeys 13
    RaiderRockstar Raiders 24 Horse Humpers 13
    RedneckRaider Raiders 31 Broncos 6
    SilverAndBlackBleeder Raiders 33 Broncos 10
    Slurp Slurp Raiders 40 FartFart 10
    Sullivan44 Raiders 24, Broncos 7
    Zymurge Raiders 41, Donkeys 13

  679. Try Some Reality Says:

    Mcfadden20 pouring some truth on the blog.

    Tebow: Agreed.

    Hue: Agreed. As proof of the effect of a good coach we need only look across the bay. That team doesn’t impress on paper with the exception of just a few names, and there they are at 6-1. Hard to believe.

    TJ: I hope you’re right, bruh. And I just hope he brings the right kind of leadership. I’m not a fan of the signing, but in the end, it probably won’t make much of a difference since I just don’t see him taking on a prominent role on the field, unless it’s just for the first couple of games until Palmer gets more comfortable with our young guys. I’m thinking Palmer lobbied for us to sign him and I hope this isn’t just one of those buddy buddy, trying to do the guy a favor. Let’s field the most talented players here.

    Palmer: No brainer. Only Misty Eyes would argue against what you said.

  680. rob_raider Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 10:06 pm
    LA to the Bay,

    have you even tried to imagine Tebow being in the position he’s in without the whole Christian persona? You can picture him not only being in the league, but starting? With his performances thus far?
    *******************

    there have been plenty of Christians in the NFL. tebow has people’s attention for a variety of reasons, including religion. he’s good looking, muscular, white, a QB, a winner, a hesiman winner, etc. denver sucks and the fans wanted him in, b/c they hoped he would be the answer. b/c they were going nowhere w/ orton, they pretty much had to see if he could work out. if he continues to suck, at least they will have given him a shot, and no one will complain if they move on. if he starts to win, they will have something. what other choice do they have?

    and i don’t know why non-Christians get so upset about Christians. i mean if u don’t believe, why do u care if other people do? why is that so upsetting? it’s stupid. just let it go. accept that a lot of people believe. how’s it hurt u? it’s like the pro-abortionists that seem to get upset when a young girl actually keeps a baby. they seem to actively want girls to have abortions.

    the nfl tries to market any player who can become a star and sell tickets, period. tebow is a guy who has obviously caught the attention of the country. it makes sense they would hype him. but most of the media have ripped on him.

    by the way God doesn’t care about football at all.

  681. Try Some Reality Says:

    Blackmamba_20 Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 5:43 pm
    Just Get T Jones in the game more, If DMAC Out i dont want to see 30 carries for Bush, Jones about to break one off !!

    ===========================================

    Someone give this man a nice cold brew. Couldn’t agree more.

  682. John Tweedy Says:

    Hagen Cut

    C. Johnson IRed

  683. Try Some Reality Says:

    2/3 of the way to 4 digit posts in a thread only a little over 8 hours long? There’s a buzz in Raiderland, brothers. Get on the train or get the fk out the way.

  684. John Tweedy Says:

    A source with knowledge of the situation says the Raiders waived receiver Derek Hagan to make room on the team’s 53-man roster for newly-signed wideout T.J. Houshmandzadeh.

    Also, the Raiders are putting injured cornerback Chris Johnson, who has been out since Week 3 with hamstring and groin issues, on season-ending Injured Reserve.

    The Raiders have yet to confirm such moves or announce any roster moves.

    Hagan made the team as a free agent in training camp and has caught 11 passes for 114 yards in six games.

    Hagan led the Raiders with 224 yards receiving on a dozen receptions in the preseason but has only two receptions in the past two games — one against Houston and none against Kansas City.

    He was originally a third-round pick of Miami in 2006. He spent three seasons with the Dolphins and the past two with the New York Giants.

  685. John Tweedy Says:

    At least we did not cut an Al drafted player.

  686. John Tweedy Says:

    Wake up Jer.

    Hello Steve

    Becker???

  687. Try Some Reality Says:

    John Tweedy Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 12:40 am
    Hagen Cut

    C. Johnson IRed

    =========================================

    Wow. CJ37 IR’d?

    Hagan released? One of the more productive receivers in camp and preseason? Man, I still have faith in you Hue but I’m starting to get a bit concerned.

  688. rediaR Says:

    Mcfadden20. Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 12:17 am
    Palmer : is there any doubt he’s better than campbell , QB is the one of the most important position on a football team , any doubts? Look no further than the colts and you will find out
    Whats having a good qb for ur team means ..

    If Campbell was not hurt, he would be better than Palmer. Palmer has not been good for years. I hope he turns it around, but I have seen nothing from him in the last 3 seasons that would indicate he is anything more than a has-been. Hate on Campbell all you want, but he was winning while Palmer was busy quitting on a team and throwing ducks to TJ in a park.

  689. rob_raider Says:

    oh boy, here come all the pro-hagan nutballs. the guy was ok. that’s it. tj will become a guy who makes a lot of 1st down for us. he’ll be far more productive than hagan.

  690. Try Some Reality Says:

    Wait, so why did we need both moves? Wouldn’t the IR suffice? That freed up 2 spots, did it not?

  691. rob_raider Says:

    RediaR Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 12:47 am
    Mcfadden20. Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 12:17 am
    Palmer : is there any doubt he’s better than campbell , QB is the one of the most important position on a football team , any doubts? Look no further than the colts and you will find out
    Whats having a good qb for ur team means ..

    If Campbell was not hurt, he would be better than Palmer. Palmer has not been good for years. I hope he turns it around, but I have seen nothing from him in the last 3 seasons that would indicate he is anything more than a has-been. Hate on Campbell all you want, but he was winning while Palmer was busy quitting on a team and throwing ducks to TJ in a park.
    *****************

    yeah, almost 4000 yards and 26 td’s last year was a clear sign of a has-been. jc could never put up those #’s. ever.

  692. rob_raider Says:

    Try Some Reality Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 12:46 am
    John Tweedy Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 12:40 am
    Hagen Cut

    C. Johnson IRed

    =========================================

    Wow. CJ37 IR’d?

    Hagan released? One of the more productive receivers in camp and preseason? Man, I still have faith in you Hue but I’m starting to get a bit concerned.

    ****************

    yeah, there’s a difference between camp/preseason and the regular season. we’re 7 games in. hagan wasn’t helping us.

  693. rob_raider Says:

    if they cleared 2 spots, obviously another player will be signed.

  694. John Tweedy Says:

    Try Some Reality Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 12:49 am
    Wait, so why did we need both moves? Wouldn’t the IR suffice? That freed up 2 spots, did it not?

    We arnt done making moves.

  695. rob_raider Says:

    joe porter coming back perhaps?

  696. Try Some Reality Says:

    Rob_raider Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 12:48 am

    oh boy, here come all the pro-hagan nutballs. the guy was ok. that’s it. tj will become a guy who makes a lot of 1st down for us. he’ll be far more productive than hagan.

    ===============================================

    Gotta love the cats that go straight to the clowns. Grow up and stick to the facts. If TJ is so much better than Hagan, why didn’t we have him in here sooner?

    Pull your head out. This has to do with Palmer.

  697. John Tweedy Says:

    May need a DE or a DB

  698. John Tweedy Says:

    Porter maybe.

    Maybe a PK for this weekends game.

  699. Try Some Reality Says:

    Thanks for the update Tweedy. I’m out.

  700. rob_raider Says:

    Try Some Reality Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 12:54 am
    Rob_raider Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 12:48 am

    oh boy, here come all the pro-hagan nutballs. the guy was ok. that’s it. tj will become a guy who makes a lot of 1st down for us. he’ll be far more productive than hagan.

    ===============================================

    Gotta love the cats that go straight to the clowns. Grow up and stick to the facts. If TJ is so much better than Hagan, why didn’t we have him in here sooner?

    Pull your head out. This has to do with Palmer.

    ****************

    yeah it has to do w/ palmer. exactly. he will have a reliable 3rd down guy. at the beginning of the year, we needed to see what our young wr’s could do. we’re half way now. dhb is bigtime. denarious is inconsistent. ford doesn’t have the hands to be reliable all the time. the rest haven’t don sh*t. it makes sense to bring in tj right now. he’ll help us out.

    bottom line, hagan was just ok. not a bigtimer at all.

  701. Otis60 Says:

    You still there Rob ?

  702. Sullivan44 Says:

    Rob Raider, you were just all over the place with that one.

    I’ll respond to your point about abortion. People that are pro choice actually want women to have abortions? Well, at least they haven’t actually shot up any delivery rooms yet, the way anti-abortion people have abortion clinics.

    As far as religion goes…the beautiful thing about this country is that people have the right to believe in an invisible man in the sky, and I have the right to laugh at them!

  703. Otis60 Says:

    Hi Sully, it seems to be pretty dead right now on the blog.

  704. GG Says:

    I can admit that I have no idea how all this could play out.

    But it will turn out either a masterstroke or end up a cluster****.

    Basically, there’s apprehension and time will tell. I mean, how Palmer and TJ perform, but also the lockerroom dynamics, whether we next see Jordan Palmer signed, whether the season falls apart or excels, the reigns tightened or kept loose on Jackson, etc.

    On face value I’m just willing to see what happens and can understand the ‘pros’ to these moves.

  705. GG Says:

    I mean, this is the kind of stuff a Kiffin or McDaniels does. They’re young, rookie HCs, have all these ideas and exuberance buzzing around their heads, if they’re given TOO MUCH leeway they can be unwise and fritter away draft value, release talented young players on the brink of stepping up, upsetting team harmony/chemistry, etc.

    I believe in Hue, but with Al there, wiser head there to soundboard ideas off of, someone who could teach and instruct a young HC in the ways of the NFL world. Kiffin didn’t respect Al’s input enough, fought him and challenged him like he thought he knew more than Al. Whereas Hue really worked with Al and respected him. However, right now it appears Hue has, as Mike Florio pointed out before, contractual power to answer only to the owner, who when it was Al, was also the GM, but right now and perhaps even after they hire a GM, there’s that contractual hitch there.

    Anyway, I guess it’s the nature of coaches/GMs etc, to hire people they’ve previously worked with. So no biggie yet, but Hue turning the Raiders into the Bengals has to be tempered.

  706. antispy3 Says:

    For once & for all “Soup, who for all he was worth I was hoping would prove all the pundits wrong with continuity could not pull it off.

    Anyone who needs more evidence just has to consult the Vince Wolfork pick in game & four. When approaching the sideline & offering his reasoning to Hue the Raiders head guy interrupted “Soup to declare, “it was cover two, Jason. No dump off needed.

    and, when ‘Soup did seem sure of his reads he couldn’t deliver on the deep/intermediate pass (Palmer’s strength) accurately, often throwing the ball out of bounds when his receiver was in position to make the play.

    Nah, Palmer not only makes the correct read he gets the ball in position for his receiver to amke a play &, he can direct the team like most of the elite level QB’s. Just watch the tape of The Bungles last two games of 2010. Then you will have a prespective of Palmer operating the offense effectively with young WR talent. Not like when TO & Ochocinco were there, inventing pass routes to suit their fancy, making Carson seem more inept than he really was.

    Nah, we have a real NFL QB. . .

  707. fingers Says:

    Good Morning Raiders…..

    Raiders 35…… Donks 13…

    Just Win!….. Just Destroy..! !

  708. fingers Says:

    I agree Soup wasn’t the long term answer for the Raiders.. But I still believe a Healthy Soup still wins the Afc west and makes some noise in the playoffs…. That said…
    I also think we win the division and make some noise in the playoffs with Palmer… We just wanna get there and then it will takecare of itself..

    Tebow?… I believe they have a divided clubhouse in Donkey town..

  709. ddwight Says:

    RediaR Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 12:47 am
    Mcfadden20. Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 12:17 am
    Palmer : is there any doubt he’s better than campbell , QB is the one of the most important position on a football team , any doubts? Look no further than the colts and you will find out
    Whats having a good qb for ur team means ..

    If Campbell was not hurt, he would be better than Palmer. Palmer has not been good for years. I hope he turns it around, but I have seen nothing from him in the last 3 seasons that would indicate he is anything more than a has-been. Hate on Campbell all you want, but he was winning while Palmer was busy quitting on a team and throwing ducks to TJ in a park.

    I agree with 688…however I also think that if Palmer can be put into the right situation he will be able to help us, he hasn’t done nothing in a long time since that very serious knee injury. If this doesn’t work out its gonna appear with those 2 Draft picks, nad picking up Housh and the Safety Ndukwe, that Hue is working as an undercover Spy for the Bengals & NFL to ruin the Raiders (LOL)

  710. Raider-in-PA Says:

    Just read that Hagen got cut to make way for Housh… Im not sure that I like that move.. I felt Hagen didnt get enough looks as it was… Maybe if Reece comes back, they cut Tonga and bring back Hagen???

    Any comments??

  711. fingers Says:

    I don’t agree with the Hagan cut either…. Id think Schilens should have been cut because he just can’t seem to start healthy…Hagan IMO was a keeper……..
    I also think the TJ signing makes sence for the remainder of the season so we can work Palmer into the system … The reports are Palmers looking sharp…. Were gonna findout Sunday….

  712. Raider-in-PA Says:

    I hear ya, Fingers… We’ll know Sunday…

    Looking forward the see the Defensive front all up in Te-Blow’s grill!!

    GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!

  713. rising raiders Says:

    I can’t find anything about hagan being cut…source?

  714. J Hill Says:

    PGutierrezCSN Paul Gutierrez
    Hearing #Raiders waived Derek Hagan and IR’d Chris Johnson in wake of TJ Houshmandzadeh signing: http://bit.ly/sDTHyo

  715. Raider-in-PA Says:

    http://www.csnbayarea.com/blog/raiders-talk/post/Source-Raiders-waive-Hagan?blockID=586786&feedID=2801

    A source with knowledge of the situation says the Raiders waived receiver Derek Hagan to make room on the team’s 53-man roster for newly-signed wideout T.J. Houshmandzadeh.

    Read more: Source: Raiders waive Hagan
    Tune to SportsNet Central at 6, 10:30 and midnight on Comcast SportsNet Bay Area for more on this story

  716. hwnrdr Says:

    If they IR’d CJ, then why waive Hagan?
    Good Morning Nation!!! Am I hearing that correctly???

  717. RaiderRockstar Says:

    you dont work RRS…only people that work are real estate big wigs with widow’s peaks all the way down to where their mustache should be. You’re just a bootlicker who lives in a trailer with no girlfriend, no job, no car no life

    ***

    LOL!

    thanks ROG. nice to see you’ve joined the RRS hate club

  718. rising raiders Says:

    thanks.
    don’t like this. reliable go-to-guy on 3rd down. i think he will be picked up by another team and there is only a small chance of a return like gio, lito…

  719. J Hill Says:

    but has only two receptions in the past two games — one against Houston and none against Kansas City.

    ——————————————————

    The last 3 games, Hagan 1 catch against Houston. ZERO against KC AND Cleveland.

    I don’t see what all the fuss is about.

  720. hwnrdr Says:

    Good Morning Rockstar…I don’t think he meant it like that…I think, it may have been MR in here one day spouting off about a bunch of us not working…Brien was joking…

  721. hwnrdr Says:

    Sorry, it was Kell laughing yesterday about you working…that’s where he got it from…

  722. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Houshmandzadeh was scheduled to work out with the Raiders on Tuesday, and coach Hue Jackson apparently liked what he saw, enough to put a deal in place for the veteran minimum salary prorated over the remainder of the season. The deal will pay Houshmandzadeh approximately $500,000 for the final nine games.

    ***

    Sheppard took Rayner’s roster spot.

    Who got chopped for Housh?

    My first three guesses would be: Ausberry, Schilens (I.R.) or Tonga – in that order

  723. Raider-in-PA Says:

    As much as I like Murph, he seems off this season.. And with Johnson IR’d, cutting Hagan made no sense… Dude didnt get enough of a shot and looked good when they did go his way…

  724. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Hearing Raiders waived Derek Hagan and IR’d Chris Johnson in wake of TJ Houshmandzadeh signing

    -Paul Gutierrez

    ***

    That would be REALLY stupid.

    CJ37 is better than DVD, Chekwa & Sheppard

    Hagan is better than Schilens, Ausberry and probably TJ himself!

  725. J Hill Says:

    I love the Oakland Bengals Smack talk.

    Was their the same backlash when Hue tried to bring in former Ravens? Gaither, McClain, the GM Candidate????

    Hell, while you’re Buhhllshiiidin, there’s a couple more Bangles and Ravens I wouldn’t mond swapping out for guys on our roster.

  726. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    MAY HAVE A COMPLETE NEW ROSTER BY WEEK 15…

  727. J Hill Says:

    Hagan is better than Schilens, Ausberry and probably TJ himself!

    —————————————————-

    1 catch and multiple drops over the past 3 games for Hagan.

    Ok, so he doesn’t like to play XBox. I’m pretty sure Housh can give us 1 catch every 3 games though.

  728. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Maybe Hue values loyalty more than production, like Al Davis did?

    Hagan has been in the doghouse ever since he told the media he was healthy and Coach Jackson made him inactive saying he wasn’t

    Derek Hagan in preseason reminded me of Tim Brown. That was our vet mentor. That was our possession receiver. I loved reading about the work he put in during camp and the leadership he showed. Also worked out with Palmer during the offseason

    my boy CJ Legend will be p1ssed!

  729. J Hill Says:

    CJ37 is better than DVD, Chekwa & Sheppard

    ——————————————————-

    He’s hurt and a HUGE liability on the field trying to play hurt.

    Got toasted in Denver and Buffalo, remember???

  730. bcz24 Says:

    716.hwnrdr Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 6:13 am
    If they IR’d CJ, then why waive Hagan?
    Good Morning Nation!!! Am I hearing that correctly???
    ************************
    That seems to be the rumor. As much as we liked Hagan what can he provide us that TJ doesn’t? People underestimate the importance of giving CP an outlet he is comfortable with while he gains the timing with our young WRs. Also, people forget that CP is a REAL QB. He is going to be slingin passes to these guys before they even make their breaks, pristine route running is going to be paramount, and TJ is one of the best at running crisp true routes, he can be a great mentor for these young guys. It was a smart complimentary move that is going to cost us less than what we paid Javon Walker PER CATCH.

    If CJ is going to IR we might be looking to add Bodden, unless Chekwa is up and ready. Bodden isn’t great, but should be more than adequate as the #4 CB.

    I agree that Hue is make brash moves right now, but before we critisize him, lets see how they pan out. Curry seems to have worked out quite well. The team that gets hot in December is the team that is going to be the most feared in January, and we are making a push to be that team.

  731. J Hill Says:

    People underestimate the importance of giving CP an outlet he is comfortable with while he gains the timing with our young WRs. Also, people forget that CP is a REAL QB. He is going to be slingin passes to these guys before they even make their breaks, pristine route running is going to be paramount, and TJ is one of the best at running crisp true routes, he can be a great mentor for these young guys. It was a smart complimentary move that is going to cost us less than what we paid Javon Walker PER CATCH.

    —————————————————–

    Agreed!

  732. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I’m pretty sure Housh can give us 1 catch every 3 games

    ***

    Jhill,

    Hagan was behind King Darrius, Ford, Murphy, Schilens & Moore on the depth chart

    even Nick Miller in WK1. he’s the goat because he “betrayed” Hue Jackson – not because he’s a lousy WR

  733. bcz24 Says:

    All of you people that are up in arms about roster marginalia like Hagan will quickly forget him the first time TJ picks up a big 3rd and 8 to keep the sticks moving.

  734. J Hill Says:

    I agree that Hue is make brash moves right now

    —————————————————–

    Why is Hue getting credit for making these moves instead of Mark Davis, Herrera, and Amy Trask?

    You guys really think Al Davis had it set up where Hue Jackson, a coach, would be in complete control of his front office?

  735. RaiderRockstar Says:

    All of you people that are up in arms about roster marginalia like Hagan will quickly forget him the first time TJ picks up a big 3rd and 8 to keep the sticks moving.

    ***

    Hue Jackson seems to be gathering “his guys”

    Question is, will this stunt the development of youngsters like DHB, Murphy, Ford & Moore. These green cats have talent! TJ can have Chaz’s reps

  736. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    NICK MILLER WHERE R U ?

  737. J Hill Says:

    he’s the goat because he “betrayed” Hue Jackson – not because he’s a lousy WR

    —————————————————–

    That’s ridiculous.

    Hagan made those remarks AFTER week one responding to questions about why he was not active. He was ALREADY 7th on the depth chart. SEVENTH!!!!

    So I guess we can expect Chaz to be cut next since he “betrayed” King Hue last week saying he was healthy, eh?

  738. bcz24 Says:

    You guys really think Al Davis had it set up where Hue Jackson, a coach, would be in complete control of his front office?
    **********************
    I think Hue is giving the input and being very convincing to people who don’t have a great deal of football knowledge. It would be unwise to assume anything else. Trask is a business woman, not a player/personal guru, Mark Davis is the guy who just inherited a Ferrari, but doesnt know how to drive.

  739. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Why is Hue getting credit for making these moves instead of Mark Davis, Herrera, and Amy Trask?

    You guys really think Al Davis had it set up where Hue Jackson, a coach, would be in complete control of his front office?

    ***

    Hue: I want to bring in TJ Housh. Saunders & Lal agree he is needed

    Mark & Amy: Uhhh, how much will he cost?

    Hue: next to nothing

    Mark & Amy: If he’ll help you win games, go get’em

  740. bcz24 Says:

    Hue Jackson seems to be gathering “his guys”

    Question is, will this stunt the development of youngsters like DHB, Murphy, Ford & Moore. These green cats have talent! TJ can have Chaz’s reps
    ******************
    “His guys” ??? So he trades for a QB he is familiar with, and brings in a WR who that QB has a great deal of chemistry with and he is ‘Gathering his guys’? Thats 2 guys out of the 53 man roster

  741. J Hill Says:

    Hue Jackson seems to be gathering “his guys”

    Question is, will this stunt the development of youngsters like DHB, Murphy, Ford & Moore.

    ——————————————————

    Did you have that same question about Hagan stunting the youngster growth?

    And again, who are “Hue’s guys”?

    The whole “Hue’s guys” thing comes up because we have a new 5th or 6th WR????

  742. hwnrdr Says:

    I can see that TJ is here for Carson’s comfortability, and I’m not really questioning that, unless they are looking at Bodden, I just can’t see why Hagn was cut IF CJ was IR’d…

  743. RaiderRockstar Says:

    So I guess we can expect Chaz to be cut next since he “betrayed” King Hue last week saying he was healthy, eh?

    ***

    Como?

  744. J Hill Says:

    Mark & Amy: Uhhh, how much will he cost?

    Hue: next to nothing

    Mark & Amy: If he’ll help you win games, go get’em

    ——————————————————-

    So what the problem????

  745. J Hill Says:

    Como?

    —————————————————–

    Last game, Chaz was inactive.

    Hue said he had a groin injury.

    Chaz said he was healthy and ready to play.

  746. RaiderRockstar Says:

    back to work. well, starting work

  747. hwnrdr Says:

    Like I said yesterday…I hope “Whosyourmamma” shows NFL Defenses “Whowyourdaddy”…I think maybe he failed in Baltimore is maybe because he really didn’t have it down with Flacco…that is…MAYBE!

  748. bcz24 Says:

    A lot of people point to last year with Ravens to say that Housh has lost it and he sucks. He was the FOURTH WR on that roster.

    Boldin and Mason were the starters and Stallworth was there to stretch the field. Housh joined that team 3 days before opening day, and Flacco is definitely NOT a QB that is going to have 4+ receivers heavily involved. Ray Rice IS the Ravens offense, Flacco is there to manage games.

    Look at 2009 with a mediocre Seattle offense and you will see Housh outperformed anything any of our WRs have EVER done (70+ catches for 900 yardS)

    This guy is going to be important for what we do as an offense going forward. We already know what this team will look like with a QB who doesnt have confidence in his receivers.

  749. J Hill Says:

    Yeah, Hwnrdr.

    Pretty sure we’ll find out who replaces CJ today. Wouldn’t be surprised if we added another LB.

  750. bcz24 Says:

    unless they are looking at Bodden, I just can’t see why Hagn was cut IF CJ was IR’d…
    *******************
    That is still speculation at this point.

  751. Raider-in-PA Says:

    J Hill Says:
    It was a smart complimentary move that is going to cost us less than what we paid Javon Walker PER CATCH.
    _________________

    Amen brother!! Walker has to be the second biggest blunder Al recently had behind JaPork-A$$.. He gave Moss a running for ‘Most Useless Receiver’ award…

  752. hellsbells Says:

    Baltimore had no speed. With our speed it will open up alot of room for T.J. to work the middle.

  753. Raider-in-PA Says:

    Good post #748… Hope you’re right…

  754. hwnrdr Says:

    Well, remember Walker was in Cable’s dog house his last year here…I think we could have used him as he led cheers on the sideline the whole year…who knows which Walker would have showned up that year???
    And Bcz24…you’re right…on the Ravens, everyone remembers that one dropped pass which would have extended their drive. Heck, the was the last time I remember TJ…so we’ll see!

  755. Pretty Rick Says:

    It seems to be a lot of mixed opinions about the Houshyomama signing. I remember reading several posts months back on how we needed a veteran wr to show the young bucs how to play and develop into the wr position. I remember names like Dereck Mason and Plaxico Burress being brought up. Malcom Floyd was so high on the wish list you’d of thought he was the second coming of Jerry Rice. We got a low risk veteran wr who Carson has been throwing to for a long time,, they know each other and he’ll be a perfect checkdown option when Heyward-Bey starts drawing double coverages soon. So we let go of a journey man wr (Hagan) to bring in a proven vet who’s familiar with Carson Palmer and HueJax,, and the problem is?,,,,I’m cool with it.

    Oakland Raiders-34 Denver Tebows-13

  756. Plunketthead Says:

    I just hope our WR’s can catch the bullets CP will be slinging.

    DHB just got use to JC’s “soft touch”

  757. hwnrdr Says:

    756.Plunketthead Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 7:23 am
    I just hope our WR’s can catch the bullets CP will be slinging.

    DHB just got use to JC’s “soft touch”

    Right, but he did catch CP’s first pass didn’t he…so DHB will be ok!

  758. LA to TheBay Says:

    I liked Hagan. Think we cut the wrong WR.

  759. LA to TheBay Says:

    Hagan was the ‘possession’ guy that TJ is now going to be, so the logic is there, but Hagan’s a hard worker and has value on ‘teams.

  760. GoodOle00 Says:

    Something wrong with Hagan. Every team has ditched him.

  761. uglyorc Says:

    Just read that Hagen got cut to make way for Housh… Im not sure that I like that move.. I felt Hagen didnt get enough looks as it was… Maybe if Reece comes back, they cut Tonga and bring back Hagen???

    Any comments??
    —————————
    Yeah, Hagan isnt coming back. He’s nobody. Maybe if 2 or 3 of our other WRs get hurt they might consider him. We lost nothing by cutting Hagan.

  762. GoodOle00 Says:

    750.bcz24 Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 6:46 am
    unless they are looking at Bodden, I just can’t see why Hagn was cut IF CJ was IR’d…
    *******************
    That is still speculation at this point.

    ———————-

    Cuz then we don’t have to expose Tonga to the waiver wire when we activate Reece this Sunday…

  763. Bob Marley Says:

    So T. J. uh?.

    I see some guys don’t like it, let the kids play and develop seems to be the argument, but let’s take a look at Donald Driver and Hines Ward, two players older and more fragile than Housh who are also surrounded by talented young WR’s.

    Green Bay has the best WR unit in the league with Greg Jennings, Jordy Nelson and James Jones, all starting caliber guys plus a good looking rookie in Randall Cobb, yet they chose to retain Donald Driver who still starts and sees some action, not nearly as much as he used to, but he still has a couple of TD’s.

    Pittsburgh has 3 talented kids in Mike Wallace, Antonio Brown and Emmanuel Sanders and kept Hines Ward around, he’s still starting and has posted 26-258-2 line.

    Point is, keeping Driver and Ward around has not hindered the development of the younger WR’s in those teams and my guess is that they have helped them learn the nuances of playing the position.

    I don’t TJ is coming here as a mentor, I think he feels like he can make plays and maybe he can contribute something, but it’s not like he’s coming as a savior and if he’s done he’ll have to sit behind the kids, behave and help them get better or he won’t last long.

  764. Kirk Says:

    Maybe Palmer and Hoozagoodawg have a psychic connection like Magic and Keith Wilks.

  765. hwnrdr Says:

    Good Point Marley!

  766. Raiderbuck Says:

    http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2011/11/2/2532222/oakland-raiders-axe-derek-hagan-and-ir-chris-johnson

    Hagan is gone it looks like,…

  767. The Judge Says:

    I do not think Cris Carter is as smart OR as FUNNY as he obviously thinks he is!

  768. Raiderbuck Says:

    Late to the news sorry,…

  769. Bob Marley Says:

    Now as far as T.J. actually contributing on the field, I have my doubts as everyone else, but the truth is we haven’t replaced Zach Miller’s production over the middle of the field.

    That’s where T.J. may be able to help, playing the slot and matching up vs LB’s, Safeties or Nickel CB’s.

    None of our young WR’s can play the slot yet, they are all better outside where they can use their speed to gain separation and scare the CB’s, but speed won’t make a big difference down the middle with all the traffic there.

    Just because Jacoby Ford looks like a Slot WR doesn’t mean he has learned or can play there, T.J. used to know how to get open and has seen every coverage out there, if he still has some legs he should be able to produce for us.

    Now Palmer can’t move like Campbell, he won’t be able to buy time by moving around in the pocket so he needs a security blanket he can trust over the middle to dump it off if he’s hurried, T.J. probably makes Carson feel better already since he knows where he’ll be every time.

  770. HairyBush Says:

    The Raiders are going to win the AFC west. How do I know this? Simple, CJ37 went on I.R.
    My prayers have been answered.

  771. oldschoolraider Says:

    Can anyone confirm the Silver and Black Pride report that Hagan has been cut?

    Come on Steve, did you get scooped?

  772. Bob Marley Says:

    Posts # 748 and 752, good points.

  773. Raiderbuck Says:

    oldschoolraider Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 7:56 am

    Can anyone confirm the Silver and Black Pride report that Hagan has been cut?

    Come on Steve, did you get scooped?
    ***************************************************

    Raiderbuck Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 7:51 am

    http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2011/11/2/2532222/oakland-raiders-axe-derek-hagan-and-ir-chris-johnson

    Hagan is gone it looks like,…

  774. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I am more concerned about losing Hagan on Special Teams than as a WR.

    He was very good at downing those pooch punts and even made a few tackles on kickoff coverage.

  775. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    what a fn joke!

    im losing faith in you hue.

  776. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    louis murphy been doing a good job on ST to

  777. Raiderbuck Says:

    Hagan was a good receiver – I think we will miss him.

  778. hwnrdr Says:

    I think all of that news things have not been confirmed…even on the reports, it all says “sources” say this…but what is the source?

  779. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    goodbye mccourt, let the door hit your ass on the way out.

  780. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    cj finally ir’ed, hagan released, and tj in, damn cork where u at?

  781. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    hue jax ego is wayyyyyyy to big!I’d say hes gonna be the downfall of this team but we really cant fall much further than the past 8 years.

  782. Raiderbuck Says:

    I think it sucks, Hagan worked hard to make the team. I would much rather have seen one of the old ‘young’ receivers get cut.
    I keep hearing/reading on how this receiver didn’t have any catches for the last three games, well for at least a game and a half we didn’t have a QB :)

    They need to back off the ‘he hasn’t had any catches’ thing until there is a QB that can throw them the ball.

  783. r8eray Says:

    Hearing Raiders waived Derek Hagan and IR’d Chris Johnson in wake of TJ Houshmandzadeh signing

    -Paul Gutierrez

    ——–

    WAKE UP STEVE!!!!!!!!!!

  784. r8eray Says:

    Skinny….what up mayne in Main?

  785. Raiderbuck Says:

    mcskinnnylegs Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 8:06 am

    hue jax ego is wayyyyyyy to big!I’d say hes gonna be the downfall of this team but we really cant fall much further than the past 8 years.
    ************************************************
    I have stated before that he looks like he’s starting to believe the hype, and that’s a dangerous place to be. Only time will tell and I hope he knows what he’s doing!

  786. MikieG Says:

    Scouting report on Tebow:

    Keep him IN the Pocket..

    Stuff the Run..

    Game over.

  787. Bob Marley Says:

    Posts 748 and 752.

    Right on, Baltimore had Boldin, Mason and Heap as their main receiving options, they were all short to intermediate targets, throw in Housh and there’s no room for them to operate, they canceled each other out.

    Now we don’t have that problem, DHB, Ford and Moore make the Defense respect the long ball, so the middle of the field is bound to be open for someone (T.J.) to make some plays, sounds good in theory, let’s see if it works out.

    Housh was never a # 1 guy anyway, Seatlle made a mistake by trying to make him one, in Cincy it was 85 who threatened the Defense all over the field and Chris Henry who ran the deep routes, so Housh had room to work, with DHB developing as an all-around WR and Moore and Ford the big-play threats, maybe T.J. can find the room he needs to move the chains.

  788. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    I would’ve cut Schilens over Hagan, but that’s just me.

    That said, because HueJax cut the #5 WR on the depth chart he’s suddenly a crazed egomaniac who’s gonna sink the team?

    Folks, back up and chill a bit.

  789. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Mike Silver wrote that article this offseason that in NFL circles, people know that Hue is his own biggest fan, and the Ravens were happy to see him go.

    The man knows football though, and has us going in the right direction.

    I don’t see Hue being here more than 3-4 years. He will bail for bigger money, and more camera time.

  790. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    I’m not jumping of the Hue bandwagon just yet, TJ is a true possession WR, not a selfish prick like T.O. and the youngins will benefit from. I think DMOORE may have hit the wall, Murph is slowly coming back, Schil hasn’t done much, and Ford still hasn’t shown he can catch the ball consistently. I’ll let the results speak for themselves.

  791. MikieG Says:

    # Bob Marley Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 7:53 am

    Now as far as T.J. actually contributing on the field, I have my doubts as everyone else, but the truth is we haven’t replaced Zach Miller’s production over the middle of the field.

    +++++++++++++++++++

    That is because Boss is consistently kept in to block.. It’s not like he dude is dropping passes left and right, he isn’t being used by Hue, especially in the Red Zone which I don’t get..but whatever..I have been waiting for DMAC to line up in the Slot all season and Fry a few Linebackers in coverage, and that aint happenin either. I love Hue, but some of the stuff he does are real head scratchers..

  792. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    sup ray how ya been?
    cant wait for the madden update wit housh! lol

  793. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I don’t see how Housh is going to be an upgrade to Hagan anytime soon.

    Going to take a few weeks to learn the offense, and he is older and slower, and he was last seen dropping passes in a playoff game.

    Throw in that I doubt TJ will play any special teams, and it is a little bit of a head-scratcher.

    But we are talking about a WR down on the depth chart, so no need to make too big of a deal about it.

  794. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    Only time will tell.

  795. Bob Marley Says:

    PA

    “…because HueJax cut the #5 WR on the depth chart he’s suddenly a crazed egomaniac who’s gonna sink the team?.”

    Agreed, this move won’t make or break the team.

    Hagan was a class act and hard worker but Housh has the chemistry with Palmer, now we have at least one guy who is familiar with Palmer and has his trust.

  796. olinesux Says:

    jfb, i agree with that thought. Every interview i have heard from hue, is I this, I that, he really talks all about himself.

  797. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    Most teams carry 5-6 WRs. Of that number, only the top 3 really matter. Numbers 4-6 on the depth chart are basically interchangeable parts. Wake me if Hue cuts DHB, Moore or Ford. Until then, it’s just tinkering with depth.

    Yeah, Hagan’s a good guy, hard worker, solid hands. I hope he lands on his feet somewhere. Much like Soupy.

    But ultimately, I want the team to win and if that takes Carson Palmer and a receiver he feels comfortable with as he jumps into a new situation, then bring it on, no matter who’s toes get stepped on or feelings hurt. Clearly Hue feels the same way.

  798. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    As for this upcoming game, Det showed how to severely expose Tebow, bring the house down on ‘em, make him try to make quick decisions, he’ll look lost. I see Huff and MM34 in the backfield alot this Sunday.

  799. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    And if they view Ford as a slot receiver of the future (and I sure hope they do) then he could do a lot worse than spending 9 games and a bunch of practices watching a guy who’s had a damn productive career doing just that.

    If Housh bridges the gap between now and Ford’s (hopeful) full bloom next season, no complaints here.

  800. Bob Marley Says:

    MikieG Says:

    +++++++++++++++++++

    That is because Boss is consistently kept in to block.. It’s not like he dude is dropping passes left and right, he isn’t being used by Hue, especially in the Red Zone which I don’t get..but whatever

    ++++++++++++++++++++

    Maybe Boss is needed to block, I agree Boss seems like he should get more looks but now that Palmer is behind the line wel’ll need Boss to block more than ever.

  801. MikieG Says:

    Check this out.
    +++++++++++++++++++

    In his first NFL start against the Dolphins, Tim Tebow played poorly for three quarters before leading the Denver Broncos on a thrilling fourth quarter comeback. In his second start against the Detroit Lions, there was no reclamation to be had. Tebow was completely overmatched for the entire game, and didn’t earn any respect from his opponents.

    “Can you believe ‘15′?” one Detroit Lions defender asked. “Come on — that’s embarrassing. I mean, it’s a joke. We knew all week that if we brought any kind of defensive pressure, he couldn’t do anything. In the second half it got boring out there. We were like, ‘Come on — that’s your quarterback? Seriously?’ ”

    Those are pretty harsh words from the Lions locker room, but Yahoo!‘s Michael Silver says they’re more or less a microcosm of how the entire team felt after the game. The thing is, as bad as Tebow was — and he was really bad — he’s also surrounded by a pretty glaring dearth of talent. The Broncos traded their top wideout in Brandon Lloyd just before Tebow’s first start, they have no running game to speak of, and their offensive line offers him little to no protection.

    So is Tim Tebow capable of being a legitimate starter in the NFL? Probably not. But is he getting any help along the way? Definitely not.

  802. r8eray Says:

    The way I see it is….

    Housh or T.O.

    and I’m glad they didnt go to T.O. way!!

    I’m not going to judge this transaction as a dumb or smart move yet…I’ll give 3-4 games before I make that decision. IMO

  803. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    This team got flat humiliated. 28-0, their QBs threw 6 INTs, the much vaunted d-line got zero sacks against a medicore offensive line.

    I expect Hue to have them breathing fire and ready to tear sch!t limb from limb on Sunday. I know Palmer will be ready to go prove his detractors wrong.

    Brady Quinn by the 4th quarter, whether Tebow goes out from injury or ineffectiveness.

    Raiders 48 – Denver 13

  804. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    To all the people saying this doesnt matter.
    think about being a wr or any teammate in that locker room u know all training camp hagan was the most consistent wr only to see him be a a #4 or #5.Then ur ego maniac coach goes and gets two bums off the streets that are in there 30’s who cant play ball anymore.Now you have to ask yourself if chemistry is gonna take a hit.I’d say so.

  805. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    This the pros, you have to learn to move on from these moves. Big Al didn’t believe in chemistry much.

  806. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    Mcskinnylegs,

    Football’s a business. The players understand that. And if they don’t, then to hell with them.

    Team chemistry is a load of crap too. The old man felt the same way.

  807. No Mas Diamante Says:

    Theses are good moves. Nice work Hue.

  808. MikieG Says:

    # mcskinnnylegs Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 8:22 am

    To all the people saying this doesnt matter.
    think about being a wr or any teammate in that locker room u know all training camp hagan was the most consistent wr only to see him be a a #4 or #5.Then ur ego maniac coach goes and gets two bums off the streets that are in there 30’s who cant play ball anymore.Now you have to ask yourself if chemistry is gonna take a hit.I’d say so.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Troll, your user name says it all..Are you Sullivan too?

  809. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    some 1 help me out.trying to think of a wr over 30 that gets it done.

  810. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Team chemistry is a load of crap too. The old man felt the same way.

    *******************************

    How did that work out for him the last 25 years?

    Team-chemistry is MASSIVELY important in today’s NFL, with all the line calls and LOS adjustments.

    30 years ago, you didn’t need much of an offseason, and you had 25 plays.

    Today, going to spend a few weeks with your QB in the offseason and digesting 250 plays is more important than just about anything else.

  811. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    mike g im def not sully.and im not a troll just tries of these dumb moves

  812. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    that’s tired*

  813. inonewordraider Says:

    Hagan cut? Why would you bring in an older slower known complainer for a hardworking reliable guy who stays at the facility during the bye week who was a great example for the younger receivers remember the video game comment? The only thing that can save this from being a bad move is if Housh is productive and keeps his mouth shut. Also can’t overlook the fact it takes a while for a qb to grasp a system and get in tune with his receivers so hopefully TJ can be a safety net until Carson get’s there.

  814. Bob Marley Says:

    Tebow is getting a bad rap.

    Elway didn’t want him and Fox didn’t want him, so instead of tailoring their offense to fit his game, they play like he’s a pocket passer.

    If I’m Denver I’m lining up in a shotgun with 3-4 WR sets and running the no-huddle for the entire game, give the kid some room to work and make plays with his feet by running or buying time, after 4 seconds someone will get open.

    I see no reason Tebow can’t play like a young Mike Vick, Vick’s game has evolved and Andy Reid did a great job with him but back when he came into the league he was an awful passer, big arm, but too erratic.

    If I were the Dolphins I would have traded for Tebow and hired Urban Meyer, that would have been an interesting team to watch, put fans in the seats.

  815. mcfadden20. Says:

    What’s good nation , good moves to cut hagan ..

    Because he has not been doing anything in the REGULAR SEASON and he was suppose to b a veteran and mentor for our young receivers , it doesnt seem like it had any effect on Moore or Ford or even schilens

  816. Just Fire Baby Says:

    If team chemistry is un-important, why did the WR’s, Hue and Palmer make such a big deal about the WR’s spending the bye week with Carson?

  817. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    if team chemistry doesnt matter then why did wr’s stay at j.camp house?and um anyone got a wr for me that gets its done over 30?sum1 any1

  818. J-Raider Says:

    @817..
    easy … steve smith

  819. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Donkeys had Tebow in shotgun 51 of the 72 plays this past weekend, according to Kreisler who writes in Denver.

    That’s like 70% of the time.

    Big thing to watch for, is Tebow tipping the snap count by moving his arms when he “hikes” the ball in the shotgun.

  820. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    My boy Hagan cut for old @$$ Housh? LMAO!!!!

    I would have cut Glass Schilens before Hagan.

    Hue needs to stop grand standing and get back to football basics.

  821. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    cutting the 5th, 6th WR on the roster will ruin team chemistry. lol, c’mon now.

  822. inonewordraider Says:

    Team-chemistry is MASSIVELY important
    _________________
    I love Al but disagree with him with regards to team chemistry. Don’t you like the fact that these get along and hang out outside of games and practice? That’s the main reason I like the Raiders in a working class town like Oakland where the players are close to the community and close to each other. When you become friends as opposed to just teammates you’ll fight for each other and that’s how I prefer it

  823. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    aaaaaaaa j raider good one but wasnt till this year

  824. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    hagan is really going to be good for another team. I wish him well.

  825. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    @inonewordraider
    watch out there gonna start calling u a troll because you belive in common sense

  826. Bob Marley Says:

    Team chemistry is one thing, we look like a team that has it with Hue leading the way and both young and old players believing in this team.

    There’s also the chemistry between a QB and his targets, we don’t have that now and it will take more than a couple of weeks to develop some, that’s where Housh come in, he has it with Palmer and that’s why Hue made the move, I guess.

  827. J-Raider Says:

    ..reggie wayne, deion branch..

  828. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    TJ isn’t here to be the barnburner, just give us 2 to 3 1st downs on 3rd, and job done.

  829. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    j raider gimme another one

  830. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    Man my boys in Cincy are laughing at us right now because we keep picking up their scraps and has beens!!!

    This is the same reason we got into the non-playoff situation we were in by cuting youth for old has beens.

    There is a reason no other team in the league picked up Housh when he was out there.

  831. DMAC Says:

    Morning peoples!

  832. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    828.raideredoutL.A. Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 8:36 am
    TJ isn’t here to be the barnburner, just give us 2 to 3 1st downs on 3rd, and job done.

    ———————————–

    Good luck with that one!

  833. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    dion branch no way thats more brady and his #’s not that good but reggie definitly

  834. Bob Marley Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:

    Donkeys had Tebow in shotgun 51 of the 72 plays this past weekend, according to Kreisler who writes in Denver.

    That’s like 70% of the time.

    Big thing to watch for, is Tebow tipping the snap count by moving his arms when he “hikes” the ball in the shotgun.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Well I didn’t know that man, but what kind of plays are they calling?.

    I guess we’ll find out on sunday.

  835. J-Raider Says:

    steve smith has always been good bro.. try looking at wide outs named t.o. randy moss, tim brown, jerry rice, chris carter, marvin harrison, just to name a few wide outs that consistantly played top-notch football after they turned 30..

    he11, housh out-played ALL of our wide outs a couple years ago after he turned 30 hahaha..

  836. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    actually reggie aint ding much either lol i know i know

  837. hwnrdr Says:

    831.DMAC Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 8:38 am
    Morning peoples!

    DMAC! What’s up bro?

  838. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    housh is not even close to any of those wr that got it done after 30

  839. olinesux Says:

    total bs move on hues part if indeed he cut hagan…man do i really miss al…

  840. DMAC Says:

    hwnrdr Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 8:41 am

    831.DMAC Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 8:38 am
    Morning peoples!

    DMAC! What’s up bro?
    =======
    Another day, another dollar
    Do you know who we cut?

  841. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    There is a reason no other team in the league picked up Housh when he was out there.

    _______________________________________________________

    yup

  842. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    Hagan was really producing on the bench, what a loss.

  843. hwnrdr Says:

    840.DMAC Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 8:42 am
    hwnrdr Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 8:41 am

    831.DMAC Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 8:38 am
    Morning peoples!

    DMAC! What’s up bro?
    =======
    Another day, another dollar
    Do you know who we cut?

    “Sources” say, Hagan, but also saying that Chris Johnson has been IR’d…scratching my head about that one…

  844. DMAC Says:

    Just saw this on yahoo. I’m dying to see it, but I can’t. Please let me know if its any good.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/Watch-Swedish-player-celebrates-goal-hugs-oppo?urn=nhl-wp16322

  845. J-Raider Says:

    @838

    housh after he turned 30=

    rec-313
    yds-3356
    tds-22

    not too bad so far

  846. DMAC Says:

    Fk’n stupid move by Hue if he cut Hagan.
    Never wanted Housh, but I guess I’ll be rooting for him to produce anyhow, since he’s wearing the silver and black.

  847. YoungAmerican Says:

    Shame, I thought Hagan served more of a purpose than Murphy did. But I guess you have to go with the young, home-grown talent in that case. Hopefully Murphy starts playing like he wants to be on the field soon.

    If CJ37 is going to IR, I hope the Raiders make a play for Bodden.

  848. hwnrdr Says:

    Me neither bro…can’t view that at work…
    On another note…if the reports are true, why isn’t it on raiders.com? Maybe that is why Cork hasn’t posted anything new yet…just saying…

  849. J-Raider Says:

    raideredoutL.A. Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 8:42 am
    Hagan was really producing on the bench, what a loss
    ———————————–

    tell me about it.. its like we waived andre johnson.. watch all the teams in the nfl scramble to pick him up!!!

    who wants to bet he clears waivers?!?

  850. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    nice chin check

  851. DMAC Says:

    Hagan moved the chains WHEN he was on the field!!!

  852. DMAC Says:

    raideredoutL.A. Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 8:49 am

    nice chin check
    ======

    No knock out?

  853. inonewordraider Says:

    If Hagan cut does this mean Al really didn’t mandate starting DHB over Hagan after Hagans preseason performance, Cork sure seemed to think it was an Al mandate, or does this mean Hue is doing what he thinks Al would have done?

  854. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    cork is too busy chopping it up on twitter, says why haven’t the Raiders made a move for Bodden.

  855. raiderjhawk Says:

    man, I got crucified in here last night because I said that there was a reason that no one else picked up Housh.

    Now, I get what Hue is trying to do here. Give Carson an option that he trusts and also someone who can work the middle and fight for balls… I just hope it works out. It just seems to me that Hue is acting a little to much like Rex Ryan lately, he needs to have this team ready to play (unlike the circus sideshow from a couple of weeks ago going into KC) shut your mouth and coach until we start dominating fools.

  856. No Mas Diamante Says:

    Hagan is expendable. Housh will easily replace his production. Hue knows the personell on the team better than anyone on this board. Get over it…If you don’t like it find another team.

  857. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    DMAC Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 8:50 am
    raideredoutL.A. Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 8:49 am

    nice chin check
    ======

    No knock out?
    ;;;;;;;;

    nah

  858. DMAC Says:

    I hope all these mid-season FA pickups don’t fk up our team chemistry.

  859. hwnrdr Says:

    854.raideredoutL.A. Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 8:51 am
    cork is too busy chopping it up on twitter, says why haven’t the Raiders made a move for Bodden.

    Ahh, gotcha…I can see distraction coming again…Mannnn we better not lose to the Donks!

  860. DMAC Says:

    Was it funny though?

  861. J-Raider Says:

    last year was housh’s only bad year out of his last 7 years.. and that was because he was used 18% of the time in the ravens offense. he will contribute and he should move the chains.. he is proven and has a great relationship with our new qb. i think this move could be the edge that puts us in the playoffs this season! book it!!!

  862. Thec07 Says:

    What up NATION????

  863. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    I 2nd that emotion, Huejax has to get this team ready to play Sunday, cut the bs.

  864. Thec07 Says:

    good to see rivers and san diego chargers fail…

  865. mcfadden20. Says:

    Code black..

  866. charles2521 Says:

    The open roster spot will remain open until the health of dmc and jano can de determined if one of them can’t go the kicker we had in the kc game will be resigned. If dmc can’t go. Remember they just had tryouts of that position before they signed lito. One more thing did phillip rivers look old to anybody else on monday. He’s getting old. Just a remainder carson is about the same age so let’s see. Last think tj worked out for the patties the 9ers and another team with no takers this was purly a cp3 move

  867. hwnrdr Says:

    Thec07! What’s up brother?

  868. DMAC Says:

    Like I said, FK Housh! He didn’t want to sign with us before, but now that he’s on deck, I guess I need to root for him to produce.

  869. J-Raider Says:

    DMAC Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 8:52 am
    I hope all these mid-season FA pickups don’t fk up our team chemistry
    ——————————-
    didnt have a choice, our quarterback kinda broke his collerbone

  870. raiderjhawk Says:

    DMAC, that video was whack! I watched it this morning. It’s just Yahoo trying to make a big story out of nothing, the headline made me think it was going to be cool. The guy hugged his opponent who then gave him a little bop to the helmet, they both moved on, that’s it.

  871. silverback Says:

    If the Raiders win there will be plenty of team chemistry. If they lose it will not be
    because they lack team chemistry, it will be because the players didn”t excecute.

  872. DMAC Says:

    Thec,
    Wassup bruh?
    What do you think of the latest signing?

  873. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    Man I have to admit when I looked at Hagans stats there is not much to tell. I guess we never really focused on our passing game any way. So I did not expect to see anything to great stats wise, but I think if we do ever get a true passing game Hagan would have had more upside than Housh. I will be surprised if Housh makes us a etter team, but I pray I am wrong.

    You don’t leave a productive WR siting at home for nothing. Do you guys think everybody left Housh chillin at home just for Hue Jack to pick him up to help his team?

  874. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    DMAC Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 8:52 am
    Was it funny though?
    ”’

    Yeah, u see the emotion of scoring a goal then the emotion of oh scht, I got my chin checked on his face, kinda wonder if he knew he was hugging the opponent at 1st.

  875. J Hill Says:

    821.raideredoutL.A. Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 8:35 am

    cutting the 5th, 6th WR on the roster will ruin team chemistry. lol, c’mon now.

    —————————————————-

    Exactly!!!!

  876. Just Fire Baby Says:

    who wants to bet he clears waivers?!?

    **************************

    I don’t believe he will, not because of his play as a WR, but his ability to be on many areas of Special Teams.

  877. La Milicia Negra Says:

    come on Hue, sign Leigh Bodden!!

  878. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    861.J-Raider Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 8:53 am
    last year was housh’s only bad year out of his last 7 years.. and that was because he was used 18% of the time in the ravens offense. he will contribute and he should move the chains.. he is proven and has a great relationship with our new qb. i think this move could be the edge that puts us in the playoffs this season! book it!!!

    ———————-
    J – I hope you are right.

  879. DMAC Says:

    raiderjhawk Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 8:55 am

    DMAC, that video was whack! I watched it this morning. It’s just Yahoo trying to make a big story out of nothing, the headline made me think it was going to be cool. The guy hugged his opponent who then gave him a little bop to the helmet, they both moved on, that’s it.
    ===========
    Man foreals?
    I thought it would be hilarious. So I didn’t miss out on anything then, huh? That headline sure got me though. Yahoo sports is a joke.

  880. Just Fire Baby Says:

    What’s the realistic date to when TJ will be suited up?

    I can’t imagine it would be this weekend, and than we have a short week traveling to San Diego.

  881. raiderjhawk Says:

    I get a huge kick out of the people on here who are all “if you don’t like it find another team” and “get on the bus or get out”. I come here because I’m a die hard Raider fan who lives in KS. I like to read my Raider Brethren’s opinion and also express my own to them. So if people don’t like people expressing their opinions or debating team moves I guess they should find somewhere else to go. I root for all Raiders whether I think they should be on the team or not.

    I just hope this all works out according to Hue’s plan, we had a promising start to the season and I don’t want that washed down the drain, it’s been so, so long!

  882. J Hill Says:

    YES, it’s as SIMPLE as giving Palmer a guy who he is comfortable with!

    I think Marley pointed out earlier that we are missing the guy who can do what Miller used to do. The best part about this to me is the guy is lining up in the slot. A bigger possesion WR in the middle of the field to get 6 or 7 yds here or there.

    Housh will avg 3 or 4 catches a game right off the bat.

  883. raiderjhawk Says:

    Plus, in 6 yrs I’ve spent well over $1200 dollars on Sunday ticket just so I can watch the Raiders play every Sunday, it’s about dam time I started getting a little something in return… like a winning season!

  884. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 9:00 am

    What’s the realistic date to when TJ will be suited up?

    I can’t imagine it would be this weekend, and than we have a short week traveling to San Diego.
    _________________________________________________________

    pundits say week 9..

  885. inonewordraider Says:

    So if hagan really is cut we’re keeping Tonga, interesting…

  886. La Milicia Negra Says:

    I like Hagan, but 11 catches for 114yds in 5 games isnt quite a loss..

    TJ, welcome!

  887. J Hill Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 9:00 am

    What’s the realistic date to when TJ will be suited up?

    ——————————————————

    Good question.

    Wonder if Chaz will be active and get a shot at that 3rd down slot possesion receiver role?

  888. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Housh will avg 3 or 4 catches a game right off the bat.

    ******************************

    If so, than who is losing those touches each week?

    Other than DHB, nobody averages 3 catches a game on this team.

  889. J-Raider Says:

    CJ Legend 34 Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 8:56 am
    Man I have to admit when I looked at Hagans stats there is not much to tell. I guess we never really focused on our passing game any way. So I did not expect to see anything to great stats wise, but I think if we do ever get a true passing game Hagan would have had more upside than Housh. I will be surprised if Housh makes us a etter team, but I pray I am wrong.

    You don’t leave a productive WR siting at home for nothing. Do you guys think everybody left Housh chillin at home just for Hue Jack to pick him up to help his team?
    ———————————-
    look at every nfl team right now and look at the recievers that play for them.. the raiders are the ONLY team that do not have a legitimate proven wr group.. no leadership at all, just young, raw talent. now insert housh to that mix.. now we are getting somewhere.

    you guys shouldnt be complaning though, i mean, the raiders had probably the single most productive bye-week in recent history.. we didnt play a game and went from 2nd to tied to 1st in the division, our quarterback got some MUCH needed work with our offense, and we upgrade our wrs and cbs.. pretty good stuff if you ask me..

  890. DMAC Says:

    La Milicia Negra Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 9:02 am

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 9:00 am

    What’s the realistic date to when TJ will be suited up?

    I can’t imagine it would be this weekend, and than we have a short week traveling to San Diego.
    _________________________________________________________

    pundits say week 9..
    ==========
    Let me think on this one…..
    Curry – 1 or 2 practices (started the next game)
    CP – 2-3 practices (Played the next game)
    Housh – will see some action this Sunday

  891. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I get a huge kick out of the people on here who are all “if you don’t like it find another team” and “get on the bus or get out”.

    **************************

    There are a handful of chest-beating “I’m a bigger fan than you” buffoons on here, but haven’t seen the usual suspects so far this morning.

  892. hwnrdr Says:

    881.raiderjhawk Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 9:00 am
    I get a huge kick out of the people on here who are all “if you don’t like it find another team” and “get on the bus or get out”. I come here because I’m a die hard Raider fan who lives in KS. I like to read my Raider Brethren’s opinion and also express my own to them. So if people don’t like people expressing their opinions or debating team moves I guess they should find somewhere else to go. I root for all Raiders whether I think they should be on the team or not.

    I just hope this all works out according to Hue’s plan, we had a promising start to the season and I don’t want that washed down the drain, it’s been so, so long!

    Jhawk, I agree with your post here…we are all fans (well…maybe not all) but yeah, this is a place to go to express our opinions as fans! As for the promising season…my heart stopped when JC went down! I hope it is fixed!

  893. kokomo Says:

    I saw a report on CSNBAYAREA that stated Hagan is being waived and also Chris JOhnson on IR. So that opens up another roster spot.

  894. raiderjhawk Says:

    Aren’t we tied for second right now in the AFC West? The Chiefs beat us and SD, which would mean that if the season ended today we would be tied for 2nd?

    Am I wrong?

  895. J-Raider Says:

    raiders beat the donkeys 23-19.. dont let us down carson.

  896. kokomo Says:

    Any indication if this weekend is a sellout? I get a sense it’s approaching a sellout based on Ticketmaster.. I couldn’t find tickets in the 300 level.

  897. DMAC Says:

    raiderjhawk Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 9:06 am

    Aren’t we tied for second right now in the AFC West? The Chiefs beat us and SD, which would mean that if the season ended today we would be tied for 2nd?

    Am I wrong?
    =====
    We lost to KC, so that gives them the edge over us right now.

  898. YoungAmerican Says:

    Guys, the plan for the season changed dramatically as soon as Campbell broke his collarbone. You can’t reasonably expect to not miss a beat when your starting QB goes down.

    The Raiders had to choose between giving up on the season and trying to win now. Palmer was the best, and really the ONLY legitimate option at QB once Garrard went down. Yes, I do think Hue overpaid for him. But if Palmer gets the Raiders to the AFC title game in the next two years, then it’s well worth it. If he doesn’t? The Raiders will have their 1st rounder in 2013 to find a QB of the future, assuming Pryor isn’t the answer.

    At this point, the name of the game is making Palmer as comfortable as possible so he can produce as quickly as possible. That’s why Housh was signed. Housh knows Hue’s system. He has experience catching passes from Palmer. He signed for the vet minimum. This is a very low-risk move, and if it helps Palmer get acclimated then it will absolutely pay off.

  899. J-Raider Says:

    raiderjhawk Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 9:06 am
    Aren’t we tied for second right now in the AFC West? The Chiefs beat us and SD, which would mean that if the season ended today we would be tied for 2nd?

    Am I wrong?
    ——————————–
    you are wrong.. the raiders and chargers have only played 2 division games, the chiefs have played 3.
    they are 2-1 raiders and chargers are 1-1. tie-breaker will come after the raiders and chargers play the same amount of division games as the chiefs..
    afc west is officially in a 3-way tie for first place..

  900. J Hill Says:

    If so, than who is losing those touches each week?

    ——————————————————

    I’d say Palmer is going to be around 22-25 completions each week. I’d say slightly more than half of those will go to the WRs. Housh, being Palmer’s security blanket, will be certainly be targeted.

    I’m going with 3-4 catches if he gets the PT most of us seem to think he’s going to get.

  901. Just Fire Baby Says:

    #900

    That was a helluva run-around to not answering the question, lol!!!!

    Who is going to get less touches? Are we going to toss it more, so it cuts out some carries? I’m sure we would agree we need to find MORE ways to get DHB the ball, not less.

    I got it!!!! We can cut out the flea-flickers and other shennanigans each week, and viola, 3-4 touches it is for Houshy.

  902. charles2521 Says:

    Hagen was cut so hue can save some respect. Al drafted all the receivers but hagen so after 7 games he (meaning hue) couldn’t cut a davis drafted player this year. Out of respect of al.

  903. raiderjhawk Says:

    Thanks for clearing that up J.

  904. J-Raider Says:

    is litto gonna start this weekend?

  905. Thec07 Says:

    DMAC Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 8:55 am
    Thec,
    Wassup bruh?
    What do you think of the latest signing?
    +++++++++++

    Whats good Brother???

    I am not so sure about it however, I trust Coach Jackson and his abilities. I do not think he would do anything to jeopardize the NATION…

  906. J-Raider Says:

    no prob.. i did some studying on that yesterday lol..

  907. Just Fire Baby Says:

    While we are it, we can cut out the flea-flickers, the FB dive, the FB and TE reverses (LMAO at those) and TJ can have 5-6 touches.

  908. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 9:05 am

    I get a huge kick out of the people on here who are all “if you don’t like it find another team” and “get on the bus or get out”.

    **************************

    There are a handful of chest-beating “I’m a bigger fan than you” buffoons on here, but haven’t seen the usual suspects so far this morning.
    _______________________________________________________

    LOL, yeah as I said for years, its binary.. either you are a fan or you are not.. like either you are pregnant or you are not… its not sizable if you are a fan you just are..

    some here will mention when they saw their first game or when some in their family was to the first game and then feel they are a bigger fans than others.. I disagree either you are or you are not, simple as that!

    because some buffoon was born in th 50’s and been following the raiders from the start they should be bigger fans than some kid born in the 90’s is ludicrous! cant hold a birth-certificate against some-one.

    lastly, all that kept committed to the raiders during the rot have earned their stripes!

    the greatest NATION on earth is the RAIDERNATION, the only global NATION!

  909. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    i heard rivers has a cracked sternum.

  910. J-Raider Says:

    im a bigger raider fan than the governator lol..

  911. VanHeathen Says:

    the ‘Governator” gets it on with ladies that look like dudes…

  912. Just Fire Baby Says:

    im a bigger raider fan than the governator lol..

    **********************

    Not a big Chris Berman fan, but he cracks me up with his “Go, Chargers, Go” spoof on Arnold.

  913. mcfadden20. Says:

    Are we seriously talking about young receivers losing touches? lmfao… the only way they lose touches is we don’t convert on 3rd downs.. but if TJ could help some convert some of the 2nd and longs and 3rd and longs or shorts in first down… we’ll talking about DHB having 100+ game every week…

  914. M Lonetree Says:

    co-MVPs of Super Bowl XLVI – Lito Sheppard and TJ Houshmandzadeh.

    remember, you read it here first.

  915. Thec07 Says:

    raideredoutL.A. Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 9:21 am
    i heard rivers has a cracked sternum.
    +++++++++

    fck him….

  916. hwnrdr Says:

    LMN, yes I agree on that “bigger fan than you” crap! I was a fan since 74, but to me that doesn’t make me more of a fan than the younger guys! Only thing that I can say is that I have seen the glory years, and have seen the bad! But the ones that have only seen the bad and are STILL fans is whats make the Nation being the best in my opinion! And also, we are ALL fans whether we all agree or not! That is why I love the AM crew…

  917. Thec07 Says:

    rivers = pastorini

  918. DMAC Says:

    raideredoutL.A. Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 9:21 am

    i heard rivers has a cracked sternum.
    ======
    I heard he suffers from “Romo-litous”

  919. RaiderRetribution Says:

    We all have wondered about TJ Whosyourmamma;

    well at least we now know

    TJ Huesyourdaddy!

  920. Thec07 Says:

    Hwnrdr, whats up Brother????

  921. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    DMAC Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 9:24 am
    raideredoutL.A. Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 9:21 am

    i heard rivers has a cracked sternum.
    ======
    I heard he suffers from “Romo-litous”
    ”””””
    major choke job no doubt on MNF

  922. hwnrdr Says:

    917.Thec07 Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 9:24 am
    rivers = pastorini

    LMAO! What’s up Thec07? Nothing going on here…Sunday I have my friends from Hawaii coming to the game…should be interesting!

  923. La Milicia Negra Says:

    hwnrdr Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 9:24 am

    LMN, yes I agree on that “bigger fan than you” crap! I was a fan since 74, but to me that doesn’t make me more of a fan than the younger guys! Only thing that I can say is that I have seen the glory years, and have seen the bad! But the ones that have only seen the bad and are STILL fans is whats make the Nation being the best in my opinion! And also, we are ALL fans whether we all agree or not! That is why I love the AM crew…
    _______________________________________________________

    exactly!

  924. LA to TheBay Says:

    M Lonetree Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 9:24 am
    co-MVPs of Super Bowl XLVI – Lito Sheppard and TJ Houshmandzadeh.

    remember, you read it here first.

    ———–

    Ndukwe makes crucial pick of Aaron Rodgers at goal line.

  925. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    SD’s radio announcers said they heard fireworks go off right before the fumbled snap that may have rattled rivers. LMAO!

  926. hwnrdr Says:

    Wow…lol, but hey, love the optimistic posts! So its redemption year…we beat Pitt and NE to get to the SB and beat Green Bay? Ultimate redemption right there…

  927. hwnrdr Says:

    925.raideredoutL.A. Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 9:28 am
    SD’s radio announcers said they heard fireworks go off right before the fumbled snap that may have rattled rivers. LMAO!

    I’ll double that LMAO!

  928. Thec07 Says:

    We are the best team in the west…
    Told you guys to not sleep on KC, we r going to fk them up next game however, they are a decent team…

  929. DMAC Says:

    hwnrdr Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 9:24 am

    LMN, yes I agree on that “bigger fan than you” crap! I was a fan since 74, but to me that doesn’t make me more of a fan than the younger guys! Only thing that I can say is that I have seen the glory years, and have seen the bad! But the ones that have only seen the bad and are STILL fans is whats make the Nation being the best in my opinion! And also, we are ALL fans whether we all agree or not! That is why I love the AM crew…
    ===========
    Born in Oakland in 81′, I remember growing up rooting for the Raiders when they were in L.A.
    Got my big azz Raider Nation tat on my arm back in like 06′ when we went 2-14.
    This is a family. We’re in it together.
    Raider Nation stand the fk up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  930. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I said that Tebow scares me more for the future than Cassel and Rivers.

    While Tebow has been dreadful, I still hold by that belief.

    Cassel and Rivers have peaked, and they don’t scare me one iota.

    IF Tebow ever figures it out, he will be better in 2-3 years than either of those two.

  931. LA to TheBay Says:

    hwnrdr Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 9:29 am
    Wow…lol, but hey, love the optimistic posts! So its redemption year…we beat Pitt and NE to get to the SB and beat Green Bay? Ultimate redemption right there…

    ————-

    I’d like to beat Buffalo, Pitt, NE, then SF

    But I’d rather not be wild card and have a bye week, so I’ll settle for NYJ, NE, SF.

  932. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    Bob Marley Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 8:30 am
    Tebow is getting a bad rap.

    Elway didn’t want him and Fox didn’t want him, so instead of tailoring their offense to fit his game, they play like he’s a pocket passer.

    +++++++++

    You need to be able to stand in the pocket and throw a pass in the NFL if you’re gonna play QB.

    Look at Mike Vick. HUGE threat with his legs but can also stand there, plant his feet and rifle a throw in.

    I think the reason Cam Newton has surprised so many people, including me, is that we didn’t know he had that ability to make plays with his arm as well as his feet.

    Tebow can run, sure. But he also needs to throw. which he can’t.

    And as Drew Magary said over on Kissing Suzy Kolber, maybe a pro QB shouldn’t have to have his coaches weeding out the playbook like he’s in high school. Cable had to do that for JaDrank don’t forget.

  933. DMAC Says:

    LA to TheBay Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 9:27 am

    M Lonetree Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 9:24 am
    co-MVPs of Super Bowl XLVI – Lito Sheppard and TJ Houshmandzadeh.

    remember, you read it here first.

    ———–

    Ndukwe makes crucial pick of Aaron Rodgers at goal line.
    =========
    We might me getting a little carried away, but I see a pick 6 from DVD!
    Holla!

  934. Thec07 Says:

    hwnrdr Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 9:26 am
    917.Thec07 Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 9:24 am
    rivers = pastorini

    LMAO! What’s up Thec07? Nothing going on here…Sunday I have my friends from Hawaii coming to the game…should be interesting!

    ++++++++++

    I am in London right now actuall in a meeting as we speak….

  935. RaiderRetribution Says:

    yeah they mentioned the fireworks on espn, even Dilfer or was it Hassleback (I can’t really tell the difference [I wonder if Elizabeth does?]), discounted that excuse.

  936. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    Tebow could be a Mike Alstott type in the run game.

  937. inonewordraider Says:

    DMAC Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 9:32 am
    LA to TheBay Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 9:27 am

    M Lonetree Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 9:24 am
    co-MVPs of Super Bowl XLVI – Lito Sheppard and TJ Houshmandzadeh.

    remember, you read it here first.

    ———–

    Ndukwe makes crucial pick of Aaron Rodgers at goal line.
    =========
    We might me getting a little carried away, but I see a pick 6 from DVD!
    Holla!

    _____________________________________
    aaron curry with a sack and a forced fumble

  938. Thec07 Says:

    Oh if i didnt say it today fck tebow rivers orton volek castle

  939. DMAC Says:

    IF Tebow ever figures it out, he will be better in 2-3 years than either of those two.
    ==========
    Wearing another jersey, I wouldn’t mind.

  940. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Bummer about CJ37 being IR’d.

    That will probably end his time here, and he was a pleasant suprise for his stay here, being we picked him up off the street.

  941. M Lonetree Says:

    the Raiders are 23rd in passing yards yet still in first place.
    it says here that the passing game will improve substantially sending the Oaktowners into the play-offs.

  942. LA to TheBay Says:

    Cable had to do that for JaDrank don’t forget.
    —————

    “Ja” will forever be a prefix associated with failure and disgust.

    “that car was a JaLemon.”

    “Man, I hate my JaJob.”

    “Another JaTraffic Jam on the 405??”

  943. RaiderRetribution Says:

    I can foresee San Diego or Denver signing Mr. Hagan to play with a chip on his shoulder against us.

  944. Thec07 Says:

    dilfer <—– rides norv turners dizick…fck him also…chargers are done, rivers is done…sd is done…

  945. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 9:34 am
    Bummer about CJ37 being IR’d.

    That will probably end his time here, and he was a pleasant suprise for his stay here, being we picked him up off the street.

    ++++++++

    I agree. Nothing but love for the man. Always bounced back after a bad game too.

  946. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Raiders 35 Denver 0!

  947. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    this will be tebow’s last season with den. this may be his last start.

  948. DMAC Says:

    SilverNBlackPA Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 9:34 am

    Tebow could be a Mike Alstott type in the run game.
    ========

    If he has any skills on the ice, I think Tebow would make one hella of hockey player.
    Or even rugby.

  949. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I liked Steve Young’s description of Rivers dropping the ball.

    “That’s just childish”

    LOL….not sure how that pertains to that scenario, but calling Rivers “childish” is a perfect description.

  950. saladfingerz Says:

    whatsup raidernation?!?

    hue tanked kc game to prove a point…jus sayin…makes cp3 trade look like a no brainer cos boller wasn’t the answer…neither was huje’s non existent game planning against the chefs.

    sometimes you gotta be right.

  951. DMAC Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 9:34 am

    Bummer about CJ37 being IR’d.

    That will probably end his time here, and he was a pleasant suprise for his stay here, being we picked him up off the street.
    ========
    Having filled in for Hall, CJ looked liked “prime time” for us. Thank you for your services CJ.

  952. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    Elway and Fox said fk it, let the fans shut up and see for themselves what garbage tebow really is as qb.

  953. mcfadden20. Says:

    LA to TheBay Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 9:35 am

    Cable had to do that for JaDrank don’t forget.
    —————

    “Ja” will forever be a prefix associated with failure and disgust.

    “that car was a JaLemon.”

    “Man, I hate my JaJob.”

    “Another JaTraffic Jam on the 405??”

    ——————
    ROFLMFAO

  954. LA to TheBay Says:

    LOL….not sure how that pertains to that scenario, but calling Rivers “childish” is a perfect description.

    ——–

    I added the

    Rivers-complaining-all-the-way-to-the-turf-after-being blocked-by Huff-after-being-strip-sacked-by-Huff

    play to my list of all time favorites.

  955. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    Hope Chekwa can get back out there soon. He flashed in those games he was forced into. Let him have some more games this year and a full camp next year and the Raiders could really really be on to something.

  956. M Lonetree Says:

    the Raiders played the first portion of their schedule with one healthy CB.
    and yet they remain in first place.
    it says here that the unit will only get better.

  957. RaiderRetribution Says:

    I really liked Mr. Chris Johnson, CJ37; he was screwed flagged for excessive celebration by some liberal referee when he got down on his knee to praise God for an int/TD even though every other player not in a Silver & Black uniform that does a Catholic Cross across their chest while on a knee has never ever gotten flagged with a 15 yard unsportsmanlike-penalty.

  958. inonewordraider Says:

    so what’s the chant gonna be in Oaktown?

    Tebow sucks?

    TEEEBBOOOOOOOOWWWW?

    Bra-dy Quinn?

    Knock him out, knock him out?

  959. saladfingerz Says:

    huj = evil genius

  960. hwnrdr Says:

    934.Thec07 Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 9:33 am
    hwnrdr Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 9:26 am
    917.Thec07 Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 9:24 am
    rivers = pastorini

    LMAO! What’s up Thec07? Nothing going on here…Sunday I have my friends from Hawaii coming to the game…should be interesting!

    ++++++++++

    I am in London right now actuall in a meeting as we speak….

    Wow…cool! Look for Neil B! Have a fun time while there bro!

  961. mcfadden20. Says:

    saladfingerz Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 9:38 am

    whatsup raidernation?!?

    hue tanked kc game to prove a point…jus sayin…makes cp3 trade look like a no brainer cos boller wasn’t the answer…neither was huje’s non existent game planning against the chefs.

    sometimes you gotta be right.

    ———————

    lol it was his game plan to have boller throw an interception on the first drive when were moving closer and closer to touchdown… i get it now

  962. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    raideredoutL.A. Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 9:39 am
    Elway and Fox said fk it, let the fans shut up and see for themselves what garbage tebow really is as qb.

    ++++++++

    Exactly.

    2-14 could be the best thing for them, actually. Puts them in play for Luck or Barkley.

  963. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    DMAC Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 9:39 am
    Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 9:34 am

    Bummer about CJ37 being IR’d.

    That will probably end his time here, and he was a pleasant suprise for his stay here, being we picked him up off the street.
    ========
    Having filled in for Hall, CJ looked liked “prime time” for us. Thank you for your services CJ.
    ”””””’
    yeah that game in den, he was beast, blanketed Marshall, and should’ve had that pick6 that was negated.

  964. Thec07 Says:

    hope someone knocks tebows A$$ outta the game…

  965. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Elway and Fox said fk it, let the fans shut up and see for themselves what garbage tebow really is as qb.

    *********************

    There is a faction of these Tebow fans that are not blaming him at all.

    It’s the play-calling, the O-line, need to move their LT to RT to protect his backside, he has no WR’s, it’s only his 5 start, blah blah blah.

    He would have to have probably 10 weeks like this past week, for them to realize it.

  966. Thec07 Says:

    philip pastorini

  967. RaiderRetribution Says:

    On Silver & Black Pride comments loop repeating video of Rivers fumble and reading of his lips of him saying, “…worst game ever…”

    http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2011/11/2/2532436/warning-overconfidence-about-sunday-could-doom-oakland#comments

  968. Thec07 Says:

    dan rivers

  969. inonewordraider Says:

    Didn’t Tebow do a commercial that was against abortions? What about an “abortions rule” sign or chant?

  970. hwnrdr Says:

    LOL, and man I tell you…Pastrami in S&B was kinda hard to watch! That year we swapped QB’s with Houston, right? Pastorini for Snake and Ghost!

  971. saladfingerz Says:

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 9:41 am

    saladfingerz Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 9:38 am

    whatsup raidernation?!?

    hue tanked kc game to prove a point…jus sayin…makes cp3 trade look like a no brainer cos boller wasn’t the answer…neither was huje’s non existent game planning against the chefs.

    sometimes you gotta be right.

    ———————

    lol it was his game plan to have boller throw an interception on the first drive when were moving closer and closer to touchdown… i get it now

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    ummm…when was boller closing in on the end zone?

    it was huj’s plan to have tp run a motion qb sneak + bush’s lame wildcat drive on 4th a goal to nowhere. think about it…game plan didn’t exist against kc or did it?

  972. DMAC Says:

    No let down this Sunday. Just a good old fashion azz whoopin of the Donkies!

    Raiders 31
    Donkies 3

  973. M Lonetree Says:

    JustFB,

    you live on the fringes of Donkeyland. are the majority of Donkey riders also TBone fans or not?

  974. Thec07 Says:

    I stayed up to watch the charger game it was over at around 4:30am…Was worth every moment to see them lose…

    wonder whats up with dvrick and charged up.

  975. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    watching the det/den, no matter what talent around him he was still missing open wr’s by a mile.

  976. DMAC Says:

    Tony Phillip Cry Me A Rivers

  977. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    If Rivers keeps up this crap play the rest of the year, how much you wanna bet SD takes a developmental QB in the 2nd-4th rounds? Like Nick Foles out of Arizona or Kirk Cousins out of Michigan State.

  978. saladfingerz Says:

    im jus saying boller stinky.
    making cp3 look good by loosing large!

  979. Thec07 Says:

    hwnrdr Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 9:44 am
    LOL, and man I tell you…Pastrami in S&B was kinda hard to watch! That year we swapped QB’s with Houston, right? Pastorini for Snake and Ghost!

    ++++++++++++=

    ROFLMAO @ pastrami…..

  980. r8eray Says:

    Thec, heard your going to the SD game?

  981. YoungAmerican Says:

    Abort Tebow.

  982. Thec07 Says:

    would love to hear from dvrick, and charged up…

  983. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Tebow can be a success in the NFL, but the head coach and front office need to be committed to forming a team around him that suits his skill set:

    5 OTs to play all point on the line:
    2 Huge fullbacks
    2 RBs in the Turner & Rice style of play (more like Csonka, Riggins, & Mr. Hubbard)
    1 speed burner
    1 possesion reciever
    2 blocking TEs that are Offensive Tackles

    committ to the run, keep the game close and short, wear out the defense, play 60’s, 70’s, 80’s style of football.

  984. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    RaiderRetribution Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 9:49 am
    Tebow can be a success in the NFL, but the head coach and front office need to be committed to forming a team around him that suits his skill set:

    5 OTs to play all point on the line:
    2 Huge fullbacks
    2 RBs in the Turner & Rice style of play (more like Csonka, Riggins, & Mr. Hubbard)
    1 speed burner
    1 possesion reciever
    2 blocking TEs that are Offensive Tackles

    committ to the run, keep the game close and short, wear out the defense, play 60’s, 70’s, 80’s style of football.

    +++++++++++++++

    Call me crazy, but maybe he’s not worth that effort.

  985. Thec07 Says:

    r8eray Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 9:49 am
    Thec, heard your going to the SD game?

    +++++++++++=

    Whats good Brother??? Yeah I will be there…If you guys come out and come out a couple of days before we can hang out in the Glamp…Female ratio 15-20 to 1 make…

  986. Thec07 Says:

    Female Ratio 15-20 females to 1 male…

  987. J Hill Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 9:14 am

    #900

    That was a helluva run-around to not answering the question, lol!!!!

    —————————————————-

    No one is going to lose touches.

    Palmer will complete MORE passes than Soup did. Those extra completions and Hagan’s tosses is where Housh’s 3-4 will come from.

  988. J Hill Says:

    986.Thec07 Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 9:50 am

    Female Ratio 15-20 females to 1 male…

    ——————————————————-

    Yeah, I stay the eff away from that area when I’m in Diego. Nuttin but Sea World and the Zoo for me, lol.

  989. DMAC Says:

    Can you pass the rock in rugby?
    If you can’t, Tebow could be an all star somewhere in Australia.

  990. John Jarndyce Says:

    Certainly wish the Raiders would sign Mr. Leigh Bodden.

  991. saladfingerz Says:

    bodden on speed dial.

  992. DMAC Says:

    Thec07 Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 9:50 am

    Female Ratio 15-20 females to 1 male…
    =====
    Daaaaaamn!
    Man I wish!

  993. saladfingerz Says:

    done.

  994. DMAC Says:

    Heard Bodden has a nice contract w/ him though.

  995. Thec07 Says:

    Yeah, I stay the eff away from that area when I’m in Diego. Nuttin but Sea World and the Zoo for me, lol.

    ++++++++++++=

    hahahahahahaha…you must be married….

  996. autopalm77 Says:

    Yesterdays news about Johnson being IR’ed…If I can I will let you know who they pick up, as a roster spot is open…LB….Not to much of a reach….

  997. Thec07 Says:

    Daaaaaamn!
    Man I wish!

    +++++++++

    Trip thing is they travel in packs….

  998. J Hill Says:

    It’s kinda funny watching the NBA players slowly but surely cave!

    Wonder if D Wade is going to throw another temper tantrum?

  999. DMAC Says:

    Thec07 Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 9:56 am

    Daaaaaamn!
    Man I wish!

    +++++++++

    Trip thing is they travel in packs….
    =========
    mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!

  1000. Thec07 Says:

    Anyway I got a meeting to jet off to….

    1 NATION…

  1001. Just Fire Baby Says:

    M Lonetree Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 9:45 am
    JustFB,

    you live on the fringes of Donkeyland. are the majority of Donkey riders also TBone fans or not?

    *********************************

    I would say it is about 50% passionate Tebow can do no wrong people, 30% who like him but are starting to be concerned, and about 20% who realize he stinks.

    Was at a bar in Cortez, CO on Monday night, and the whole joint was Bronco’d out. Talked to a few guys, and only one old guy chimed in that he sucks, everyone else was in full-blown excuse making mode.

  1002. YoungAmerican Says:

    DMAC Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 9:55 am

    Heard Bodden has a nice contract w/ him though.

    ———–

    Not anymore. He cleared waivers. Signing him off the waiver wire would require a team to pick up about $2 million in salary. Now that he has cleared waivers the Pats are on the hook for it.

  1003. DMAC Says:

    J Hill Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 9:56 am

    It’s kinda funny watching the NBA players slowly but surely cave!

    Wonder if D Wade is going to throw another temper tantrum?
    =========
    I want my hoopz!
    Nothing to watch during the week, except for The First 48 on Thursdays.

  1004. DMAC Says:

    Thec07 Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 9:56 am

    Anyway I got a meeting to jet off to….

    1 NATION…
    =======
    Take care brother

  1005. r8eray Says:

    Thec, I’m married too but that ain’t stopping me!!!

    Shoot me an email

    r8eray at yahoo

    We’ll hook up…I’ll be there with about 40 peeps from the booster club out here!

  1006. J Hill Says:

    995.Thec07 Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 9:55 am

    Yeah, I stay the eff away from that area when I’m in Diego. Nuttin but Sea World and the Zoo for me, lol.

    ++++++++++++=

    hahahahahahaha…you must be married….

    —————————————————–

    Yup with 2 little girls.

    Wouldn’t be for long hanging out in places where it’s it’s 20:1.

  1007. M Lonetree Says:

    (AP) Oakland, Ca

    The Raiders rolled to the AFC West tile this season through a combination of efficient QB play from Carson Palmer, a talented rushing offense and a punishing defensive unit.
    It didn’t hurt the Raiders cause when AFC West foes collapsed under the weight of the their own awful QBs, namely JaTBone, JaCassell and JaRivers.
    The Raiders await their next opponent after a well-deserved bye week.

    (wire services)

  1008. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Trip thing is they travel in packs….

    *************************

    I liked to fancy my old self as a hyena on the packs.

    Look for the weak one in the back of the pack, that is wobbly and easy prey.

  1009. saladfingerz Says:

    bodden not so great…stop gap man cover at best. plenty of better options out there.

  1010. DMAC Says:

    r8eray Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 9:58 am

    Thec, I’m married too but that ain’t stopping me!!!

    Shoot me an email

    r8eray at yahoo

    We’ll hook up…I’ll be there with about 40 peeps from the booster club out here!
    ====
    Lucky fkers!

  1011. J Hill Says:

    r8eray Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 9:58 am

    Thec, I’m married too but that ain’t stopping me!!!

    ——————————————————

    LOL!

  1012. John Tweedy Says:

    Brian Robiskie of the Browns became the 11th 2009 draft choice taken in the first or second round to be released.

  1013. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    Gaslamp is the shhht. But I have to stay away now, fams way too important.

  1014. M Lonetree Says:

    JustFB,

    be careful out there in Donkeyland. once they all figure out that JaTimmy is a lousy NFL player they might try to blame you.

  1015. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Ray,

    You in the Vegas booster club?

    I exchanged e-mails with the guy back in the day, but they met up on Sundays at the Speedway Bar, and I am faithful to the Hilton viewing room.

  1016. No Mas Diamante Says:

    We dont need bodden with chekwa coming back and shepard on board. Huff is the 3rd db right now.

  1017. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    Enlighten this East Coaster about this place with 15-20 women to 1 man? I may have to head out to SD & hook up with y’all for next year’s game there.

  1018. J Hill Says:

    Look for the weak one in the back of the pack, that is wobbly and easy prey.

    ——————————————————

    LOL!

    Yup the one wit the fake tiddies and low self esteem.

  1019. r8eray Says:

    I’ll be out there on the solo….gotta make the best of it!!

    I call it my bachelor vacation…2 whole days!!!

    ;)

  1020. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I like Hoops but I won’t miss it.

    Just will have to embrace Mountain West action.

  1021. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Yup the one wit the fake tiddies and low self esteem.

    **********************

    Hey, leave my wife out of it!!!!

  1022. J Hill Says:

    Enlighten this East Coaster about this place with 15-20 women to 1 man?

    ——————————————————

    East Coast?

    Head over to Howard University. Same thing.

  1023. saladfingerz Says:

    everyone’s a lobo…woof!

  1024. ohioraider Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:11 pm

    8.lefty12 Says:
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:08 pm
    It looks like the days of keeping young players due to their upside might be over with.We are going to miss Al.

    *******************

    I miss Al now…Hue is drunk with Power…this is bad
    ———————————–
    You guys are nuts. Jackson can’t do anything without Trask’s ok. They’re trying to get to the playoffs this year.

  1025. qodrn Says:

    THE RAIDER PREDICTION BOARD
    Dedicated to the legacy of Al Davis
    Protected by the rally squirrel and Coliseum rodents

    First: Ghostraider (exact score)
    Second: Sullivan44
    Third: Pretty Rick
    Fourth: Sullivan44
    Fifth: Fingers
    Sixth: Zymurge Raiders 23, Browns 17
    Honorable Mention: LA for PAIN
    Seventh: Noone…at all.

    8RaiderReign8 Raiders 31 Broncos 6
    860Todd Christensen Raiders 38 Donks 9
    Blackmamba_20 Raiders 31 Denver 13
    Cole Ford Raiders 20….Broncos 7
    DonManoukiansNeighbor Raiders 21 Tebones 10
    DeuceDeuce Raiders 31 Broncos 20
    DMAC Raiders 31 Donkies 3
    exlaraiderseasonticketholder Raiders 34 Donkeys 17
    fingers Raiders..35….. Donks 13….
    GG Raiders 41 Broncos 13
    ghostraiders Raiders 27. Broncos 17
    mcfadden20. 39-13 Raiders
    Mum-O-killowe Raiders 38 Donks 9
    PlunkforHOF My beloved Oakland Raiders: 27
    Pretty Rick Oakland Raiders-34 Denver Tebows-13
    Horse-Faced Crybabys: 3
    r8dercain Raiders 28 Broncos 13
    Raiders_83 Raiders 35 Donkeys 13
    RaiderRetribution Raiders 35 Denver 0!
    RaiderRockstar Raiders 24 Horse Humpers 13
    RedneckRaider Raiders 31 Broncos 6
    SilverAndBlackBleeder Raiders 33 Broncos 10
    SilverNBlackPA Raiders 48 – Denver 13
    Sullivan44 Raiders 24, Broncos 7

  1026. DMAC Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 10:05 am

    I like Hoops but I won’t miss it.

    Just will have to embrace Mountain West action.
    =========
    I’m going to miss, “it’s a great time out”

  1027. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    J Hill Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 10:06 am
    Enlighten this East Coaster about this place with 15-20 women to 1 man?

    ——————————————————

    East Coast?

    Head over to Howard University. Same thing.

    ++++++++++++++

    I do have a couple friends in DC, now that you mention it

  1028. saladfingerz Says:

    raiders 34
    burritos 3

  1029. J Hill Says:

    cept for The First 48 on Thursdays.

    —————————————————-

    That’s a depressing arsse show, mayne.

    From the murders to the dummy tellin on themselves.

  1030. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    r8eray Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 10:05 am
    I’ll be out there on the solo….gotta make the best of it!!

    I call it my bachelor vacation…2 whole days!!!
    ”””””’

    hell yeah, I hear ya bro. I exhausted that with my trips to oak this yr. and the debacle i had at a halloween party on saturday.

  1031. r8eray Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 10:03 am
    Ray,

    You in the Vegas booster club?

    I exchanged e-mails with the guy back in the day, but they met up on Sundays at the Speedway Bar, and I am faithful to the Hilton viewing room.

    Believe it or not the Speedway is now called Lucky’s and the bar on the side is now called Lucy’s!

    Took the family last game…about 200 peeps showed up!

    I personally like Shifty’s on Sahara and Valley View…thats a Booster too!

  1032. DMAC Says:

    J Hill Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 10:09 am

    cept for The First 48 on Thursdays.

    —————————————————-

    That’s a depressing arsse show, mayne.

    From the murders to the dummy tellin on themselves.
    =======
    I fk’n luv that show bruh.

  1033. Just Fire Baby Says:

    One of the Detroit cops on first 48 used to be on the Wire.

  1034. DutchRaider77 Says:

    So what is worse as a fan?

    Tebow: No a talented QB, but willing to work like a Mutter-Phocker.

    or

    Jamarcus Russell: Very talented, but lazy!

  1035. DMAC Says:

    Philip Rivers has been spotted wincing on film while throwing this season, according to an NFL personnel man.
    Rivers’ throwing motion has always been unconventional, but this personnel man says it’s “particularly grotesque” this season. Whether Rivers is hurt or not, he’s clearly missing throws he normally makes and appears to be lacking zip on his ball. He’s on pace to throw just 16 touchdown passes this season after throwing at least 28 in each of the last three years. Along the way, he’s crippled the fantasy value of Vincent Jackson.
    Source: CBSsports.com
    ==========

    Another bites the dust!!!!!!!!!!!!

  1036. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    DutchRaider,

    Russell. With Tebow, there’s always the hope the hard work might pay off.

  1037. J Hill Says:

    NBA will be back by Xmas.

    No one is going to let that beig ABC $ go down the tubes.

    Players have basically caved on everything and are just trying to hold out for what 1% of BRI?

    Rank and file will get vocal here in a minute and end up telling the D Wade’s of the league to sit the eff down.

  1038. DMAC Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 10:11 am

    One of the Detroit cops on first 48 used to be on the Wire.
    =====
    ???
    Never noticed him

  1039. Raider-in-PA Says:

    Agree with no fan bigger than others…

    No matter how long you’ve been a Raider fan, ‘Once a Raider, ALWAYS a Raider’!!!!

    ‘F’ Te-Blow, this aint the NCAA…. GO RAIDERS!!!!

  1040. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    DMAC Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 10:10 am
    J Hill Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 10:09 am

    cept for The First 48 on Thursdays.

    —————————————————-

    That’s a depressing arsse show, mayne.

    From the murders to the dummy tellin on themselves.
    =======
    I fk’n luv that show bruh.
    ”””””’

    first 48 snitches- mike epps,lol. buy me a soda and i’ll tell u all about it.

  1041. John Jarndyce Says:

    Throw my prediction in there too old boy:

    Raiders 24, Broncos 10

  1042. qodrn Says:

    What if the city of Oakland went on strike and nobody cared but Fox News?

  1043. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I personally like Shifty’s on Sahara and Valley View…thats a Booster too!

    ***********************

    Never been there, but nice and close to the nudies!!!

    Only other place I went to for games, besides the Hilton, was Papa something, across from the Canery by the pawn shop.

    Owner was a client.

  1044. DMAC Says:

    DutchRaider77 Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 10:11 am

    So what is worse as a fan?

    Tebow: No a talented QB, but willing to work like a Mutter-Phocker.

    or

    Jamarcus Russell: Very talented, but lazy!
    =========
    I’ll take Tebow all day.
    We all saw what happened to DHB.
    Not a talented WR, but was willing to work like a mutha phucka

  1045. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    1012.John Tweedy Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 10:02 am
    Brian Robiskie of the Browns became the 11th 2009 draft choice taken in the first or second round to be released.

    ========================
    His dad Terry is an awful coordinator too.

  1046. SharkCatcher Says:

    One thing I learned from watching The First 48 ..don’t kick it in the pork and beans projects or coconut grove if in Miami..you Will get shot!

  1047. qodrn Says:

    1041:

    Don’t know why I bother sometimes, but I am not a boy.
    (That means I am a lady)

  1048. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    day off, bout to take moms out to breakfast, later yall.

  1049. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    We all saw what happened to DHB.
    Not a talented WR, but was willing to work like a mutha phucka
    ++++++++++++

    Same thing with Veldheer.

    Tons of a raw talent, but came from a small school. According to Jerry (or is it Steve?) he’s the hardest worker on the team.

    Paying big dividends for him now. He’s allowed, what, 1 sack all season?

  1050. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    Cutting Tonga? Cut Chuky B and his POS defensive strategy! Chuky gonna make Tebow look like frigin Elway.

    Want to make the playoffs Hue? Fire Chuky, give the D reins to Rod Woodson, improve from 25 ranked D.

    There I just solved your season, free of charge!

  1051. Just Fire Baby Says:

    DMAC,

    The big, light-skinned black dude with the frekles.

    Trying to find his name now.

  1052. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 10:16 am
    Cutting Tonga? Cut Chuky B and his POS defensive strategy!

    ++++++++++++++

    Just gotta hope St. Louis doesn’t improve. Spagnuolo for DC!

  1053. J Hill Says:

    I fk’n luv that show bruh.

    ——————————————————

    One of the last one’s I saw, these 2 hooker’s tried to set these 2 cats up in a hotel. 2 cats got into a shootout with the dude coming to rob them, and the old pimp dude was melted in the hallway, lol.

    2 cats in the hotel room were laid out too.

    The 2 hookers called it in, lol. Ended up telling on themselves for the set up part, not realizing they would be held for the murder.

    Young dude who got away was walking though the hood with a home made TShirt on of the older cat who got KIA’d.

    I was like, WOW!

  1054. RaiderDebo Says:

    A lot of enthusiasm aboout this team on the board today. To me, using the AFC Championship in the next three years as the bar to measure whether the trade for Palmer was worth it is a joke. I’ll settle for making the playoffs this year or next. The schedule is daunting. And even if Palmer is as good as he was four or five years ago, which I have serious doubts about, he might not be able to show it if this WR corps doesn’t improve. Lots of work ahead. No way we can afford to stumble on Sunday. Don’t let the Tebow defenders fool you. I like Decker, Royal and Demayrius Thomas. Daniel Fells made plays against us last year when the Rams came to town and got open against us quite a few times in the opener. And I wouldn’t be surprised to see their OL rebound. Looked bad last week, but I don’t think our DL is on par with Detroit’s. Plus, after the KC debacle, it has to enter your mind that Palmer could flop again this week. If they stop the run, could be a scary game. I’m always confident against Denver, but I wish this game were on the road. We looked invincible on the road against the division last year.

  1055. DMAC Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 10:17 am

    DMAC,

    The big, light-skinned black dude with the frekles.

    Trying to find his name now.
    =======
    Did he have a ol’ school high top fade? lol

  1056. DMAC Says:

    J Hill Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 10:18 am

    I fk’n luv that show bruh.

    ——————————————————

    One of the last one’s I saw, these 2 hooker’s tried to set these 2 cats up in a hotel. 2 cats got into a shootout with the dude coming to rob them, and the old pimp dude was melted in the hallway, lol.

    2 cats in the hotel room were laid out too.

    The 2 hookers called it in, lol. Ended up telling on themselves for the set up part, not realizing they would be held for the murder.

    Young dude who got away was walking though the hood with a home made TShirt on of the older cat who got KIA’d.

    I was like, WOW!
    ========
    I remember that one.
    lol

  1057. J Hill Says:

    1044.DMAC Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 10:14 am
    DutchRaider77 Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 10:11 am

    So what is worse as a fan?

    Tebow: No a talented QB, but willing to work like a Mutter-Phocker.

    or

    Jamarcus Russell: Very talented, but lazy!
    =========
    I’ll take Tebow all day.
    We all saw what happened to DHB.
    Not a talented WR, but was willing to work like a mutha phucka

    ——————————————————-

    With Jackson as the coach …

    I’d take Russell.

  1058. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    Is DMac healthy? that question right there will move the line 3 points, easy.

  1059. SharkCatcher Says:

    I saw that episode Jhill ..they were in town to sell some t shirts and one of the dudes got away buy running through the front door

  1060. LA to TheBay Says:

    One of the last one’s I saw, these 2 hooker’s tried to set these 2 cats up in a hotel. 2 cats got into a shootout with the dude coming to rob them, and the old pimp dude was melted in the hallway, lol.

    2 cats in the hotel room were laid out too.

    The 2 hookers called it in, lol. Ended up telling on themselves for the set up part, not realizing they would be held for the murder.

    Young dude who got away was walking though the hood with a home made TShirt on of the older cat who got KIA’d.

    I was like, WOW!

    ——————–

    Sounds like a typical Tuesday for me circa 1999.

  1061. John Jarndyce Says:

    Qodrn Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 10:14 am
    1041:

    Don’t know why I bother sometimes, but I am not a boy.
    (That means I am a lady)
    ————–
    Really? I didn’t think there were any woman who frequented this blog. Good day to you madame.

  1062. DMAC Says:

    J,
    NO!
    Not Russell

  1063. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    Tafur, Cork and Guiterrez all say on Twitter no sign of McFadden at practice; McClain present but just a spectator.

  1064. DMAC Says:

    I think we still get by w/ Bush and Jones carrying the load. Bring back a healthy DMAC next Thursday.

  1065. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    So no DMac this weekend. So where the hell is Taiwan Jones? has he been deported back to Taiwan or what? Bush gets the start, Taiwan gets a couple of sweeps and screens.

  1066. mcfadden20. Says:

    this blog is really boring … I hope we get Jerry back , he atleast keeps us updated on some stuff , i swear when steve posts like after 3 days it seems like we’re in offseason mode…

  1067. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I like Decker, Royal and Demayrius Thomas.

    **************************

    Decker is the #1 WR right now.

    The Donks are not at all happy with Thomas, and most believe he will be cut this offseason or in camp.

    Terrible hands and terrible attitude.

  1068. J Hill Says:

    1062.DMAC Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 10:22 am

    J,
    NO!
    Not Russell

    ——————————————————

    Over Tebow????

    All day long.

    I’d take Russell over Boller right about now.

    That speaks more to Tebow and Boller’s lack of talent than anything else.

  1069. SharkCatcher Says:

    Hagan cut ..Chris Johnson out for the season on IR?

  1070. DMAC Says:

    Cork>Jerry

  1071. mcfadden20. Says:

    DMAC Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 10:24 am

    I think we still get by w/ Bush and Jones carrying the load. Bring back a healthy DMAC next Thursday
    ——

    we play chargers , two weeks from tomorrow, not next thursday..

  1072. John Jarndyce Says:

    Mcfadden20. Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 10:25 am
    this blog is really boring … I hope we get Jerry back , he atleast keeps us updated on some stuff , i swear when steve posts like after 3 days it seems like we’re in offseason mode…
    ——–
    It’s not so boring. We make our own fun!

  1073. LA to TheBay Says:

    The Donks are not at all happy with Thomas, and most believe he will be cut this offseason or in camp.

    Terrible hands and terrible attitude.

    ——-

    Wow, wasn’t he the top WR in the draft?

    Maybe he just needs 2 years and change.

  1074. mcfadden20. Says:

    DMAC Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 10:25 am

    Cork>Jerry

    i don’t know man , this guy barely have anything to say about practices or anything at all , he’s like 3 hours behind everyone when we already find out who we IR’d who we signed etc..

  1075. hwnrdr Says:

    1071.mcfadden20. Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 10:25 am
    DMAC Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 10:24 am

    I think we still get by w/ Bush and Jones carrying the load. Bring back a healthy DMAC next Thursday
    ——

    we play chargers , two weeks from tomorrow, not next thursday..

    Ummm.Yes, we play SD next Thursday the 10th!

  1076. DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:

    Hagan was probably the only WR Mark Davis would sign off on dropping.
    Had it been Glass, Murphy ect… The media would have made it out to be a slap in the face of the old man. Hagen probably only made the final 53 because of Hue wanting to keep him. I don’t think Al would have kept Hagen around.
    So I think Hue cut his guy to bring in his guy.

  1077. mcfadden20. Says:

    whats so funny is Jerry is always pinch hitting for him every other day..

  1078. John Jarndyce Says:

    we play chargers , two weeks from tomorrow, not next thursday..
    ————
    No, Broncos game is Nov. 6, Charges game is Nov. 10

    Really got screwed by the schedule makers there.

  1079. DMAC Says:

    I would of cut Myers and kept Hagan.

  1080. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Cork is a hack!!!!

    His chats during the week are a little livelier than Jerry’s, but having a 1,000 comment thread in the middle of the season is unacceptable, and we have that like every week!!

  1081. John Tweedy Says:

    M Lonetree Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 10:03 am
    JustFB,

    be careful out there in Donkeyland. once they all figure out that JaTimmy is a lousy NFL player they might try to blame you.

    /
    JaTimmy? How is Teabag a Ja?

  1082. No Mas Diamante Says:

    Boss and Reese also at practice. Chekwa running strong off to the side

  1083. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    The Donks turn everything they draft into garbage. Sorry ax team. Man, no Dmac, Palmer better be a quick study! Sure Hope DHB, Jacoby and TJ get in sinc with number 3. Gotta get 27 to win!

    On the D side, you know ChukyB will find a way to give up 24 points to the armless wonder named TimTebo.

  1084. RaiderDebo Says:

    1067.Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 10:25 am
    I like Decker, Royal and Demayrius Thomas.

    **************************

    Decker is the #1 WR right now.

    The Donks are not at all happy with Thomas, and most believe he will be cut this offseason or in camp.

    Terrible hands and terrible attitude.

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Heard Elway talk about him on Sirius a couple of weeks ago. Didn’t sound disappointed in him to me. Freak of nature size/speed guy. Had a big catch that was instrumental in their comeback win over the Dolphins. Big-time injury guy though.

  1085. mcfadden20. Says:

    hwnrdr Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 10:27 am

    1071.mcfadden20. Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 10:25 am
    DMAC Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 10:24 am

    I think we still get by w/ Bush and Jones carrying the load. Bring back a healthy DMAC next Thursday
    ——

    we play chargers , two weeks from tomorrow, not next thursday..

    Ummm.Yes, we play SD next Thursday the 10th!

    —–
    oh my bad i don’t know how i got the two weeks from tomorrow thing.. but whatever hope they keep DMC fresh for that game…We’ll have extra time to prepare for vikings, not that it matters but it will still be better to have more time..

  1086. No Mas Diamante Says:

    Dmac – we are carrying 4 te’s right now. cant recall ever having that many on the roster.

  1087. DMAC Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 10:30 am

    Cork is a hack!!!!

    His chats during the week are a little livelier than Jerry’s, but having a 1,000 comment thread in the middle of the season is unacceptable, and we have that like every week!!
    ======
    Jerry would do the same bull schit all the time.
    + word on the street is he’s always been a Whiner fan

  1088. J Hill Says:

    DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 10:27 am

    Hagan was probably the only WR Mark Davis would sign off on dropping.

    —————————————————–

    Finally, someone else acknowledging that Hue actually HAS TO GET APPROVAL from someone.

    Mark Davis has to sign off on everything. PRetty sure he is consulting AT LEAST Trask, if not some football guy HE trusts.

  1089. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    My prediction: Oak 27 Denv 24.
    Palmer throws 3 TDs, Tiblow runs wild on ChukyB’s POS defense.

  1090. Raiderbuck Says:

    Morgan Freemen?

  1091. Zymurge Says:

    It’s simple. If another team pounces on Hagan, then that confirms the value that he has. If he doesn’t get bites, then it shows how much we over-value anyone on our roster. Time will tell.

    The main thing is that Hagan and Housh fill a similar role. If Palmer has a better connection with Housh, then even if he’s not quite playing at the same level as Hagan, that connection will make him more productive with this QB. Period.

  1092. La Milicia Negra Says:

    exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 10:14 am

    1012.John Tweedy Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 10:02 am
    Brian Robiskie of the Browns became the 11th 2009 draft choice taken in the first or second round to be released.

    ========================
    His dad Terry is an awful coordinator too.
    ________________________________________________________

    especially since Daddy-terry only is a WR-coach…

    and we can all agree he has done great work with Roddy White

  1093. DMAC Says:

    Waaaay 2many TE’s

  1094. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    889.J-Raider Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 9:04 am
    CJ Legend 34 Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 8:56 am
    Man I have to admit when I looked at Hagans stats there is not much to tell. I guess we never really focused on our passing game any way. So I did not expect to see anything to great stats wise, but I think if we do ever get a true passing game Hagan would have had more upside than Housh. I will be surprised if Housh makes us a etter team, but I pray I am wrong.

    You don’t leave a productive WR siting at home for nothing. Do you guys think everybody left Housh chillin at home just for Hue Jack to pick him up to help his team?
    ———————————-
    look at every nfl team right now and look at the recievers that play for them.. the raiders are the ONLY team that do not have a legitimate proven wr group.. no leadership at all, just young, raw talent. now insert housh to that mix.. now we are getting somewhere.

    you guys shouldnt be complaning though, i mean, the raiders had probably the single most productive bye-week in recent history.. we didnt play a game and went from 2nd to tied to 1st in the division, our quarterback got some MUCH needed work with our offense, and we upgrade our wrs and cbs.. pretty good stuff if you ask me..
    ———————————————-
    J Raider – I can see it from your point of view dude.
    I am just not sold on Housh yet.

    Who knows he may be just what the dr ordered for this team. We don’t have a passing game.

  1095. SharkCatcher Says:

    4 days later…only upside we are playing the Broncos and SD is playing the packers

  1096. John Jarndyce Says:

    I predict at least one defensive TD this week. Going to be exciting since I am attending my first home Raider game.

  1097. DMAC Says:

    Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 10:33 am

    My prediction: Oak 27 Denv 24.
    Palmer throws 3 TDs, Tiblow runs wild on ChukyB’s POS defense.
    ========
    T-bone will meet MM!

  1098. No Mas Diamante Says:

    Time for ausberry to earn that roster spot and get aquainted with the new qb.

  1099. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    While cutting Hagan isn’t a big deal as I said above, cutting him over Schilens or Gordon makes zero sense.

    No one’s gonna tell me they couldn’t sneak Gordon through waivers and onto the practice squad.

  1100. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    Hagan is a 5th stringer on every team. Nobody is going to pounce on him. TJ is on his last legs, and got the opportunity becasue of the Palmer-Hue conection.

    They are both short term replacements. If TJ catches more than 4 passes on sunday that would tell me our WR corps is crap, plain and simple.

  1101. DMAC Says:

    Darren McFadden (foot) did not participate in Raiders practice Wednesday.
    It’s always concerning when players coming off byes can’t participate when their teams resuming practicing the week after. On SportsCenter Wednesday morning, ESPN’s Adam Schefter reported that the Raiders are “uncertain” about McFadden’s Week 9 status, but remain hopeful “that he can somehow play” against the Broncos. If McFadden can’t, Michael Bush would start the game.
    Source: Vittorio Tafur on Twitter

  1102. mcfadden20. Says:

    John Jarndyce Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 10:36 am

    I predict at least one defensive TD this week. Going to be exciting since I am attending my first home Raider game.

    ————————

    You will really enjoy it man, last year i attended mine first too, i didn’t know what to expect first, but man it was off the hook experience…

  1103. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Heard Elway talk about him on Sirius a couple of weeks ago. Didn’t sound disappointed in him to me. Freak of nature size/speed guy. Had a big catch that was instrumental in their comeback win over the Dolphins. Big-time injury guy though.

    ************************

    He had some twitter issues in the offseason, work ethic has been in question, drops passes all the time, and had 3 fumbles last year in all of 20 catches.

  1104. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    Just recalled that we could have taken Calvin Johnson in the draft. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  1105. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    MM34, man is that kid hyped up or what? Teblow would run over his second string az.

  1106. No Mas Diamante Says:

    Raider – 27 – donks 17

    Tebow played pretty well against us last season in his first start I believe. Will not be an easy win especially with Palmer still trying to work out the kinks. DVD gets another pick. Takes it to the house this time.

  1107. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    TJ can help this team on Sunday. I’m in, and he can draw LB’s and free up pressure on our WR’s. He is proven and has good hands, will get the job done, maybe slower, but steady. I think at this stage of the season, it is a good reasonable pickup to help this team.

  1108. mcfadden20. Says:

    CJ Legend 34 Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 10:38 am

    Just recalled that we could have taken Calvin Johnson in the draft. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

    ________________________

    Alot of teams are recalling they had taken Jerry Rice in whatever year he was in draft…

  1109. J Hill Says:

    cutting him over Schilens or Gordon makes zero sense.

    ——————————————————

    Gordon is our best blocking TE. Good enough that Jackson and Saunders had him as our goalline FB.

    Schillen’s has been described as our best WR for the past few years, and is healthy.

    Can’t cut either of those guys.

  1110. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    If this were any team other than the Timmy T led Donkeys, I’d worry.

    Bush will go for 100+ on Sunday if DMac can’t go. Just run him right at Von Miller. Miller’s a great pass rusher, but remember that John Fox actually benched his this season for a part of a game because his run defense was so poor.

    Would rather let McFadden sit it out & not have to rebound in 4 days to play the Dischargers on Thursday.

  1111. mcfadden20. Says:

    AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

  1112. DMAC Says:

    Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 10:39 am

    MM34, man is that kid hyped up or what? Teblow would run over his second string az.
    ========

    Let’s bet a slim jim Macho!
    That won’t happen!

  1113. John Jarndyce Says:

    Mcfadden20. Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 10:38 am
    John Jarndyce Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 10:36 am

    I predict at least one defensive TD this week. Going to be exciting since I am attending my first home Raider game.

    ————————

    You will really enjoy it man, last year i attended mine first too, i didn’t know what to expect first, but man it was off the hook experience…
    ——
    Good to know!

  1114. antispy3 Says:

    Last year the Raiders had their bye @ an opportune time; on a roll. They never recouped the momentum.

    This time aroudn they’ve had an extended time to dwell on the bad taste in their collective mouths. Plus the national press has been accentuating on Tebow & not a team tettering on the edge of respectability.

    I think regardless of the personnel the Raiders come out with a vengence & throttle the Donks. Unless DMAC, a renouned slow healer miraciously detracts from norm prevailing wisdom would be to hold him out the four additional days up to the (Dis)Chargers game.

    Raiders 31 Donks 10

  1115. mcfadden20. Says:

    Let mcfadden rest on THursday too , we can take out chargers without mcfadden too

  1116. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    Schillen’s has been described as our best WR for the past few years, and is healthy.

    ++++++++

    May have been true the past couple years, but not anymore. He’s caught all of 6 passes this season.

    Chaz has run his course here.

    As for Gordon, then they should’ve let Ausberry go. Again, they could’ve got him through waivers without trouble.

  1117. DMAC Says:

    J Hill Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 10:40 am

    cutting him over Schilens or Gordon makes zero sense.

    ——————————————————

    Gordon is our best blocking TE. Good enough that Jackson and Saunders had him as our goalline FB.

    Schillen’s has been described as our best WR for the past few years, and is healthy.

    Can’t cut either of those guys.
    =======
    Myers should of gotten the ax!

  1118. realtruraider Says:

    Jerry would do the same bull schit all the time.
    + word on the street is he’s always been a Whiner fan
    =====================================================
    Really? Jer grew up going to Raider games. Corky is the 49er fan. He told on himself when he said that his kids are 49er fans.

  1119. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Miller’s a great pass rusher, but remember that John Fox actually benched his this season for a part of a game because his run defense was so poor.

    *****************************

    For missed assignments in the Chargers game.

    Guy is already one of the best pass-rushers in the league.

  1120. DMAC Says:

    I know Cork is a whiner fan. He would always write articles in the Oakland Tribune talking schit about the Raiders. Jerry’s also a whiner fan.

  1121. mcfadden20. Says:

    DMAC Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 10:45 am

    I know Cork is a whiner fan. He would always write articles in the Oakland Tribune talking schit about the Raiders. Jerry’s also a whiner fan.

    —————–
    True……

  1122. Just Fire Baby Says:

    My uncle used to live about 3 houses down from Jerry’s dad (RIP Mr. Mcdonald).

    That whole family, including Jerry, is die-hard Raider fans.

  1123. ghostraiders Says:

    Chaz bonos. . Scholarship went out the door…. when the great al davis passed away…

  1124. DMAC Says:

    According to Steve Corkran of the Oakland Tribune, it’s “looking more and more like” Darren McFadden (foot) will be held out of the Raiders’ Week 9 game against the Broncos.
    Michael Bush is poised for his first start of the season. Rookie Taiwan Jones would be Oakland’s change-of-pace back in that scenario. Mid-foot sprains are often multi-week injuries, so we really shouldn’t be surprised that DMC would have to miss one game. Fantasy owners need to sit tight end hope McFadden heals in time for Week 10 or 11. Bush will be a top-15 running back play this week.
    Related: Michael Bush, Taiwan Jones
    Source: Steve Corkran on Twitter

  1125. LA to TheBay Says:

    J Hill Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 10:32 am
    DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 10:27 am

    Hagan was probably the only WR Mark Davis would sign off on dropping.

    —————————————————–

    Finally, someone else acknowledging that Hue actually HAS TO GET APPROVAL from someone.

    Mark Davis has to sign off on everything. PRetty sure he is consulting AT LEAST Trask, if not some football guy HE trusts.

    ————–

    Lies. Hue is hijacking the team. He is going ROGUE and is drunk on power.

    He is making an earth-shattering major blockbuster move here.

  1126. Zymurge Says:

    Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 10:33 am

    My prediction: Oak 27 Denv 24.
    Palmer throws 3 TDs, Tiblow runs wild on ChukyB’s POS defense.
    ========
    T-bone will meet MM!

    Actually, I think they’ll have Curry spy on Teblow. He sucks in pass coverage anyway, so whenever he drops back in passing mode, Curry owns moving side to side on the LOS to make sure that he meets him there (hard!) if he tries to run it.

  1127. Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:

    Raiders 27

    Broncos 3

  1128. No Mas Diamante Says:

    I would start Jones and bring Bush in as a change of pace back – his usual role.

  1129. ghostraiders Says:

    Mcf20…. I like your confidence bro… but I think it will be hard enough beating a angry broncos team at home let alone a good charger team away without McFadden. .

  1130. The Big Banana Says:

    Crap! DMAC, You told me you’d be ready to go this Sunday. What gives?

  1131. The Big Banana Says:

    ghostraiders Says:
    November 2nd, 2011 at 10:51 am

    Mcf20…. I like your confidence bro… but I think it will be hard enough beating a angry broncos team at home let alone a good charger team away without McFadden. .

    ___________________________________________

    McFadden is our offense. And Palmer is still in training camp. So, yes Ghost, I think this game may be more difficult than people would like to admit if DMAC isn’t ready.

    If Palmer does well this weekend, I will be very impressed. Otherwise, this guy’s still going through the paces and won’t be ready to really let it fly for another week or two.

  1132. The Judge Says:

    I think dropping Hagen for TJ was a good move!

    Now hear me out.

    I really liked Hagen AND I believe Hagen to be a better wr than TJ at this point.

    So, why is it a good move?

    For whatever reason, Hagen fell out of favor with Baby Huey. SO, as a WR, he is almost useless to us. Coach was hardly ever going to use him. NOW what we have is a wr that both coach and qb KNOW AND TRUST. That is gold! TJ will be used AND for Palmer to have someone he is familiar with. 4 years of familiar. 4 years of trust. That could mean the difference between not making the playoffs and making the playoffs.

    Once a player falls out of favor with coach he is dead weight. Might as well get rid of the broken part for a moving part.

    jmho

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    Fourth: Sullivan44
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    Blackmamba_20 Raiders 31 Denver 13
    Cole Ford Raiders 20….Broncos 7
    DeuceDeuce Raiders 31 Broncos 20
    DonManoukiansNeighbor Raiders 21 Tebones 10
    downsouthraider Raiders 31 Donkeys 10
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    PlunkforHOF My beloved Oakland Raiders: 27
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