Houshmandzadeh makes Raiders debut; Hagan not here
By Steve Corkran
Wednesday, November 2nd, 2011 at 10:50 am in Oakland Raiders.
Wide receiver T.J. Houshmandzadeh is at practice, as expected, rocking No. 84 and apparently taking the place of fellow veteran Derek Hagan.
Houshmandzadeh is among the six wide receivers on the practice field, and Hagan is not among them for the first time all season.
Houshmandzadeh signed with the Raiders on Tuesday after working out for coach Hue Jackson. He has a chance to play Sunday against the Denver Broncos, given he can get in three practices.
The Raiders are hopeful that he can provide a spark for a receiving corps that hasn’t produced much in recent games. Darrius Heyward-Bey has been the lone consistent performer all season.
In other news, running back Darren McFadden is not at practice once again. He has missed all four practices since he suffered a mid-foot sprain against the Kansas City Chiefs on Oct. 23.
It’s looking more and more as if Jackson intends to rest McFadden for the Broncos game in hopes of having him for the AFC West showdown against the San Diego Chargers on Nov. 10.
Jackson has to feel confident that the Raiders can get past the Broncos without McFadden. If they can’t beat the Broncos without McFadden, then the Raiders problems run deeper than an injured lead back.
Middle linebacker Rolando McClain (leg), cornerbacks Chris Johnson (hamstring) and Chimdi Chekwa (hamstring) and kicker Sebastian Janikowski (hamstring) also aren’t practicing.
Tight end Kevin Boss (concussion) and fullback Marcel Reece (ankle) are practicing and showing no negative effects from their injuries.
Interestingly, the Raiders still have fullback Manase Tonga on their 53-man roster. He has either impressed Jackson enough to warrant a longer look, or Jackson isn’t convinced that Reece is ready to play at full strength.
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November 2nd, 2011 at 10:51 am
yup
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:51 am
Thank you for gracing us with your presence Steve
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:52 am
Cork>Jerry
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:53 am
Keeping Chaz and dropping Hagan is a STUPID ass move! Chaz has been injured his entire life!
HUE….WTF!!!
DUMB FK
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:53 am
Start jones and bring bush in as change of pace.
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:54 am
Tonga still around.
That’s cool.
Now let’s cut Myers.
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:54 am
Darrius Heyward-Bey has been the lone consistent performer all season.
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Not bad for a #6 WR, Steve.
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:55 am
Real Question is who are we going to bring in for the extra roster sport left open by putting C Johnson on IR
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:55 am
CJ to IR, enough already.
How’d Chekwa get hurt???
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:55 am
Don’t know about you guys but there are only two words that keep repeating themselves in my mind. Those two words are 5&3
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:56 am
Meyers should be cut if the team is that high on ausberry. Gordon is a superior blocker. we only need three TE’s.
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:56 am
He is making an earth-shattering major blockbuster move here.
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What? cutting Hagan for TJ is a earth-shattering blockbuster move? I think it upgrades the WR corp, no doubt. None of these WR have ben doing schit except my mup DHB!!!
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:56 am
7-3 after we finish off chargers and Viqueens
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:56 am
Chaz has more upside than Hagan.
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:57 am
Start jones and bring bush in as change of pace.
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I think pass-protection and ball security are too big of issues right now with Taiwan to get the start.
But if he got as many carries as twinkle-toes I wouldn’t be mad at all.
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:58 am
Bodden to sport Silver & Black next?
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:58 am
Crap! DMAC, You told me you’d be ready to go this Sunday. What gives?
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:59 am
ghostraiders Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:51 am
Mcf20…. I like your confidence bro… but I think it will be hard enough beating a angry broncos team at home let alone a good charger team away without McFadden. .
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McFadden is our offense. And Palmer is still in training camp. So, yes Ghost, I think this game may be more difficult than people would like to admit if DMAC isn’t ready.
If Palmer does well this weekend, I will be very impressed. Otherwise, this guy’s still going through the paces and won’t be ready to really let it fly for another week or two.
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:59 am
Aaron Curry’s tweets would make Jerry Falwell blush.
Seriously, guys mock Tebow for his faith, but Curry is up at all hours asking people if they love God, if they know what God’s plan are for them and their children.
Way too weird for me.
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:59 am
http://www.raiders.com/fans/pro-bowl-ballot-2012.html
go on there and vote for your Favorite Raiders players you want to see in Pro-Bowl please vote atleast 5 times today and 5 times every day…
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:01 am
I really can’t believe Zooey Deschanel and Ben Gibbard are splitting. They were the most adorable indie rock couple.
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:02 am
I have voted for Cooper Carlisle about 30 times already.
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:02 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:02 am
I have voted for Cooper Carlisle about 30 times already.
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LMFAO
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I’m GOing to vote for every player on the Raiders team , like 100 sometimes , even Jason Campbell lolz
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:03 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:59 am
Aaron Curry’s tweets would make Jerry Falwell blush.
Seriously, guys mock Tebow for his faith, but Curry is up at all hours asking people if they love God, if they know what God’s plan are for them and their children.
Way too weird for me.
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Isn’t he recently “saved”?
He’s pouring it on thicker than a dude named Ice Pick serving a 25 to life in San Q.
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:04 am
We shold be able to beat this Donkey team with Tebow as our their QB.
SERIOUSLY!!!
This should be a game our defense dominates!!!!
Let Bush and Jones get about 45 carries between them.
17 pts should get it done.
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:04 am
This must really piss off all those Hagan lovers!!!!
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:04 am
Don’t forget to vote for Kick Returners also … WE want to see FORD there every year .,.
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:04 am
Well, I guess that is somewhat of a confirmation…but still no official word!
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:04 am
I disagree with getting rid of Hagan, if that is indeed what has happened.
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:05 am
I NEED a win but I’d LIKE a blowout win.
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:05 am
Good Morning Tooz! I agree…is that what happened?
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:05 am
I hope Hoozagoodawg does well.
They say he can catch in traffic.
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:06 am
once again go vote for your favorite Raiders players
here’s the link:
http://www.raiders.com/fans/pro-bowl-ballot-2012.html
you guys better vote atleast 10 times for each of your fav player..
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:06 am
I like Hagan, he was underground and had cred.
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:06 am
RAIDERS—27 RENTED MULES—13
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:06 am
F it, lets sign that pigeon?
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:06 am
Kirk Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:05 am
I hope Hoozagoodawg does well.
They say he can catch in traffic.
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Probably why he’s in the NFL and not me.
All I do is cuss in traffic.
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:06 am
What’s all the fuzz about Hagan being cut?.
I don’t recall many people clamoring for him to play more the past few weeks, but now that he’s gone people suddenly miss him?.
I liked Hagan, he’s a class act and he’ll be missed on Special Teams, but it’s not gonna make or break that unit either.
Now on Housh…
I see some guys don’t like it, let the kids play and develop seems to be the argument, but let’s take a look at Donald Driver and Hines Ward, two players older and more fragile than Housh who are also surrounded by talented young WR’s.
Green Bay has the best WR unit in the league with Greg Jennings, Jordy Nelson and James Jones, all starting caliber guys plus a good looking rookie in Randall Cobb, yet they chose to retain Donald Driver who still starts and sees some action, not nearly as much as he used to, but he still has a couple of TD’s.
Pittsburgh has 3 talented kids in Mike Wallace, Antonio Brown and Emmanuel Sanders and kept Hines Ward around, he’s still starting and has posted 26-258-2 line.
Point is, keeping Driver and Ward around has not hindered the development of the younger WR’s in those teams and my guess is that they have helped them learn the nuances of playing the position.
Now as far as T.J. actually contributing on the field, I have my doubts as everyone else, but the truth is we haven’t replaced Zach Miller’s production over the middle of the field.
That’s where T.J. may be able to help, playing the slot and matching up vs LB’s, Safeties or Nickel CB’s.
None of our young WR’s can play the slot yet, they are all better outside where they can use their speed to gain separation and scare the CB’s, but speed won’t make a big difference down the middle with all the traffic there.
Just because Jacoby Ford looks like a Slot WR doesn’t mean he has learned or can play there, T.J. used to know how to get open and has seen every coverage out there, if he still has some legs he should be able to produce for us.
Now Palmer can’t move like Campbell, he won’t be able to buy time by moving around in the pocket so he needs a security blanket he can trust over the middle to dump it off if he’s hurried, T.J. probably makes Carson feel better already since he knows where he’ll be every time.
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:07 am
Mcfadden20, I don’t participate in mainstream bull sh*t like Pro Bowl voting.
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:07 am
37.LA to TheBay Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:06 am
Kirk Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:05 am
I hope Hoozagoodawg does well.
They say he can catch in traffic.
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Probably why he’s in the NFL and not me.
All I do is cuss in traffic.
LMAO!!!
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:07 am
Sybil
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:08 am
Maybe Hagan should have spent more time playing video games during training camp…
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:08 am
The Big Banana Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:58 am
Crap! DMAC, You told me you’d be ready to go this Sunday. What gives?
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I’ll let my boy Bush handle his business against the Donks.
I’ll be ready for the Dolt game. No worries.
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:09 am
When was the last time we had a Rookie in the Probowl? i dont remember ..
So Raider Nation here’s your chance to put Wiz2 in the Probowl…
http://www.raiders.com/fans/pro-bowl-ballot-2012.html
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:10 am
AGAIN, for almost two games we didn’t have a QB! Hagan getting cut was crap he worked hard and deserved a shot. Hue seems to be scrambling to give CP the best possible environment to win.
Seems a little desperate,….
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:10 am
crister Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:08 am
Maybe Hagan should have spent more time playing video games during training camp…
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LOL!
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:11 am
247.SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:
November 1st, 2011 at 4:18 pm
Ted – Poor Hagan will probably be the unlucky one. Dude can’t get a break wherever he goes, yet he rarely drops the ball and runs good routes (will admit he’s not fast), but he’s reliable.
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Hate to say I told you so, but I love to copy and paste it….ha
anyway……hope Seabass is ready to roll. We need that threat of scoring from the opp.’s 40 yd line to give the offense as much confidence as it can get in CP’s first start.
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:11 am
TheToozFan55 Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:04 am
I disagree with getting rid of Hagan, if that is indeed what has happened.
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And why is that? Hagan has done exactly what? Nothing, nada, zip, zilch, nine……
But, to your lack of a point, Huey could have picked either Chaz “the glass”, Louis Smurphy, or Hagan. Huey probably made a choice based on age, and the fact the Raiders drafted “the glass” and Smurphy.
So everyone STFU about releasing Hagan already. I don’t want to see one more single comment about it. It’s fn stupid.
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:11 am
Raiderbuck Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:10 am
AGAIN, for almost two games we didn’t have a QB! Hagan getting cut was crap he worked hard and deserved a shot. Hue seems to be scrambling to give CP the best possible environment to win.
Seems a little desperate,…
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The season is only 9 more weeks , explain to me why he shouldn’t b desperate…
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:11 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:02 am
I have voted for Cooper Carlisle about 30 times already.
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I voted for Sam Williams.
Hold up….
my bad I meant to say Eugene
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:11 am
Hey Hue. We need a short yardage guy. Where’s Zach Crockett?
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:12 am
Dang, I can’t believe we released Hagan.
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:12 am
and Brandon Meyers still has a roster spot over Hagan? wow.
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:12 am
last time i will post this.. well for atleast couple of hours..
http://www.raiders.com/fans/pro-bowl-ballot-2012.html
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:13 am
mcfadden20. Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:12 am
last time i will post this.. well for atleast couple of hours..
http://www.raiders.com/fans/pro-bowl-ballot-2012.html
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Straight ticket, baby
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:14 am
Hagan will get scooped up right away, maybe by the Broncos.
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:14 am
Alligator arms Murphy better step up and make some plays to warrant his spot on the roster. Hagan is better than him and was also making plays in special teams.
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:16 am
Maybe Hagan should have spent more time playing video games during training camp…
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LOL!
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:16 am
Can’t believe Hagan is gone. lol
We have 4 TE’s on the squad.
WTF?
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:16 am
All I do is cuss in traffic.
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HA! I’m pretty good at that also. There’s ALOT of no driving MFer’s in SO-CAL!
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:16 am
Come on dude, quit trying to shove your corporate bull sh*t down our throats. Pro Bowl is all about selling more beer and cars. I’d rather drink a PBR and watch some roller derby.
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:16 am
I think i’m going to break the record for most times voted by one person on probowl lolzzz i’ll try to vote 200 times every day………
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:16 am
56.John Jarndyce Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:14 am
Hagan will get scooped up right away, maybe by the Broncos.
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good point…would be very wise of them….
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:17 am
909RaiderLifer Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:16 am
All I do is cuss in traffic.
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HA! I’m pretty good at that also. There’s ALOT of no driving MFer’s in SO-CAL!
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I used 2, but not anymore.
You might get shot cussing at the wrong person nowadays.
I’m trying to live!
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:18 am
John Jarndyce Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:16 am
Come on dude, quit trying to shove your corporate bull sh*t down our throats. Pro Bowl is all about selling more beer and cars. I’d rather drink a PBR and watch some roller derby.
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I just want some Raiders players to get recognition , i don’t want to see Janikowski snubbed for an average Kicker or Mcfadden Snubbed for an average player.. you may not care.. but our players will appreciate it ..
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:18 am
Indeed JJ, wouldn’t we all.
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:20 am
Denver might rest Champ Bailey now that they know Hagan won’t be out there.
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:20 am
ProBowl is tight. I live in Hawaii, its a huge party week … players eveywhere. This past one met … Vick, Nnamdi, Dan Marino, Suggs … legends walking around everywhere. My goal is to play a round of golf with Seabass and Lechler.
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:21 am
C’mon man!
Really!
4 TE’s on the squad!
Cut Myers already.
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:22 am
This place is so much better w/ out the trolls!!!
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:23 am
VittorioTafur Some players still apparently on scholarship; letting Hagan go had nothing to do with production — which Hue said was all that mattered
41 minutes ago
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:23 am
J Hill Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:20 am
Denver might rest Champ Bailey now that they know Hagan won’t be out there.
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yup we just cut a pro-bowler and they will rest their best CB cuz they got division Locked down right lmfao
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:24 am
Anyone remember Cedric Wilson? was a 49er … met him in Hawaii, blazed a blunt with him in my apartment and he told me he has enough money to retire cuz he isnt a probowler or champion so his heart wasnt in it and wanted to be an announcer. Next year he went to Steelers and won a superbowl ring and had 2 TD in the AFC championship game. I got probowl stories for days.
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:24 am
DMAC – Myers is the only TE whose been around who actually stays on the field. Yea, he’s slower than crap, but he’s a solider we can count on to bang heads/block and he rarely drops the ball (won’t get far if he catches it), but at least he stays on the field. Gordon can’t bang with the best of ‘em for long yet, Ausberry is just as green behind the ears, and Boss is concussion prone throughout his career. Gotta keep Myers
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:24 am
Murph and schillens both better step up. meyers should be cut.
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:25 am
Hagan better than Murphy?.
In 5 full seasons Hagan has averaged 19 catches for 216 yards with 5 total TD’s, that’s 96-1083-5 in his five year career.
In 2 full seasons, Murphy has averaged 37 catches for 565 yards with 6 total TD’s, that’s 75-1130-6 in his two year career.
I don’t think so.
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:25 am
Vittorio Tafur of the San Francisco Chronicle agrees with the Oakland Tribune’s suggestion that Darren McFadden (foot) will likely miss Week 9.
Tafur and the Trib’s Steve Corkran both suggested that Hue Jackson believes he can beat the Denver Tebows without rushing back his best player from a multi-week injury. Be sure to claim Michael Bush if he’s available on your wire.
Source: Vittorio Tafur on Twitter
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:25 am
909RaiderLifer Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:23 am
VittorioTafur Some players still apparently on scholarship; letting Hagan go had nothing to do with production — which Hue said was all that mattered
41 minutes ago
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Huh ? what did he had like 5 catches for 15 yards the whole season..?
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:26 am
909RaiderLifer Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:23 am
VittorioTafur Some players still apparently on scholarship; letting Hagan go had nothing to do with production — which Hue said was all that mattered
41 minutes ago
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That’s typical. Underground guys with real talent like Hagan get passed over for the Katy Perrys of the world all the time.
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:26 am
SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:24 am
DMAC – Myers is the only TE whose been around who actually stays on the field. Yea, he’s slower than crap, but he’s a solider we can count on to bang heads/block and he rarely drops the ball (won’t get far if he catches it), but at least he stays on the field. Gordon can’t bang with the best of ‘em for long yet, Ausberry is just as green behind the ears, and Boss is concussion prone throughout his career. Gotta keep Myers
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chaz is always hurt
ford is struggling
murphy has stage fright and short arms (viagra symptoms maybe?)
moore has vanished
Hagan was solid and dependable we needed him
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:28 am
I used 2, but not anymore.
You might get shot cussing at the wrong person nowadays.
I’m trying to live!
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I check myself sometimes…
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:28 am
LA to TheBay Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:12 am
Dang, I can’t believe we released Hagan.
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I know isn’t that just fn crazy. Hagan was simply the top performer on the team, Huey might as well released McFadden. Jeez, what is this world coming to when a team releases a receiver that has done simply NOTHING for the team. I can’t believe Hagan is gone, I am so upset. Hue has lost his mind, I wish Al were alive so he could fire Hue for releasing Hagan, that is simply unbelievable. How do you release a future hall of famer and consistent pro bowl player?
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:29 am
Bob Marley Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:25 am
Hagan better than Murphy?.
In 5 full seasons Hagan has averaged 19 catches for 216 yards with 5 total TD’s, that’s 96-1083-5 in his five year career.
In 2 full seasons, Murphy has averaged 37 catches for 565 yards with 6 total TD’s, that’s 75-1130-6 in his two year career.
I don’t think so.
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Murph is totally clueless this season. Looks like he’s got the Johnny Lee Scary syndrome.
Dude needs to step his game up quick!
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:29 am
The Judge Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:13 am
I think dropping Hagen for TJ was a good move!
Now hear me out.
I really liked Hagen AND I believe Hagen to be a better wr than TJ at this point.
So, why is it a good move?
For whatever reason, Hagen fell out of favor with Baby Huey. SO, as a WR, he is almost useless to us. Coach was hardly ever going to use him. NOW what we have is a wr that both coach and qb KNOW AND TRUST. That is gold! TJ will be used AND for Palmer to have someone he is familiar with. 4 years of familiar. 4 years of trust. That could mean the difference between not making the playoffs and making the playoffs.
Once a player falls out of favor with coach he is dead weight. Might as well get rid of the broken part for a moving part.
jmho
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:31 am
J Hill Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:20 am
Denver might rest Champ Bailey now that they know Hagan won’t be out there.
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LOL. No kidding, I bet every team in the NFL is scrambling to pickup Hagan. Once again, we are the laughing stock for making strange moves, such as releasing the future hall of famer Hagan.
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:33 am
Hue sucks and is a fraud ngga! Black napolean complex drunk with power….wants to hook his boys up with gigs instead of having true honor and integrity….we will pay for this
Last time Palmer lobbied for a WR…it blew up in his face
FIRE this MOTHERFKER! He is ruining our SB chances
I’m done fk going to the games!
Peace out
That guy isnt Code Black…he is Code Hue
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:33 am
The Judge Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:29 am
I really liked Hagen AND I believe Hagen to be a better wr than TJ at this point.
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WTF so we release two receivers? Hagan and Hagen? Jeez, we need receivers, why are we releasing receivers? I realize Hagan might have lost a step, but he is still hall of fame bound. Now as for Hagen, he was really comming on and getting the playbook down, just had a few crucial drops.
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:34 am
Kevin Flynn,
Re: 82.
I posted that in response to your post 48.
Just messing with you man. Not really concerned about that move.
Besides, what good is Hagan as a WR if he doesn’t get reps and nobody throws him the ball?
Carson will throw TJ the ball.
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:35 am
Method To My Madness Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:33 am
Hue sucks and is a fraud ngga! Black napolean complex drunk with power….wants to hook his boys up with gigs instead of having true honor and integrity….we will pay for this
Last time Palmer lobbied for a WR…it blew up in his face
FIRE this MOTHERFKER! He is ruining our SB chances
I’m done fk going to the games!
Peace out
That guy isnt Code Black…he is Code Hue
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LMFAO. One thing NEVER changes about this blog, some of you are just some stupid mother fers.
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:36 am
Kevin Flynn,
Did you submit your pro bowl vote for Hagan yet?
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:36 am
Jerrymcd Raiders have roster spot open if Chris Johnson is indeed on IR (CSN Bay Area) . . . Bodden? Or saving spot for place kicker if Seabass out?
about 1 hour ago
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:36 am
Hagan had 11 receptions for about 115 yards. Not saying he was our best receiver – but he looked better than most in pre-season and he wasn’t thrown the ball a lot. Just saying there were other players that could have been released over Hagan. Like for instance one of the tight ends………I don’t see anyone on here that’s hysterical about it. Except a couple of people going nuts that some of us think it was an unwise move.
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:37 am
steve, this post doesnt help us much.. i want an official report!
give us something good next time please!!
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:37 am
Method To My Madness Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:33 am
Hue sucks and is a fraud ngga! Black napolean complex drunk with power….wants to hook his boys up with gigs instead of having true honor and integrity….we will pay for this
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B, Hue is Al’s successor.
You’re not a true Raider. You have been demoted to fan status. Go jump off the bay bridge in some platform cement shoes.
See how extreme this sounds?
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:38 am
DMAC Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:36 am
Kevin Flynn,
Did you submit your pro bowl vote for Hagan yet?
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LOL!!! Nice one bro!!!!
“uh, of course I did man, like 9,000 times, but it doesn’t matter, you don’t have to be a Raiders fan to know Hagan is worth a vote. Just ask any Giants or Dolphins fan.”
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:39 am
LMAO
Hey I’m just fking w/ you dog.
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:39 am
I know holmes!!
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:39 am
I would love to see A.Curry get a sack on Tebow and then do the Tebow (Tebowing)!
Now that would be the sheeznit!
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:40 am
I just visited the 31 other team sites and voted for their longsnappers. Bout to start over too.
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:41 am
My vote is that Houston or Kelley are the first ones to to the Tebowing. Not because they will be the first and only to get a sack on him, but because they have the attitudes and spunk to do it!! I would applaud.
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:42 am
I guess the site is not updated that they released Hagan…he’s still on the roster…but I guess that doesn’t mean anything!
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:42 am
I just sent an email to Amy Trask regarding my complete and utter disappointment in the release of Hagan. What a complete shame! we are going to pay for this…
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:43 am
89.Kevin Flynn Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:35 am
Method To My Madness Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:33 am
Hue sucks and is a fraud ngga! Black napolean complex drunk with power….wants to hook his boys up with gigs instead of having true honor and integrity….we will pay for this
Last time Palmer lobbied for a WR…it blew up in his face
FIRE this MOTHERFKER! He is ruining our SB chances
I’m done fk going to the games!
Peace out
That guy isnt Code Black…he is Code Hue
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LMFAO. One thing NEVER changes about this blog, some of you are just some stupid mother fers.
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Come say it face to face….cuz im in I DONT GIVEA FK STAGE…..please try me btch!
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:43 am
80.raiderinparadise Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:26 am
SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:24 am
DMAC – Myers is the only TE whose been around who actually stays on the field. Yea, he’s slower than crap, but he’s a solider we can count on to bang heads/block and he rarely drops the ball (won’t get far if he catches it), but at least he stays on the field. Gordon can’t bang with the best of ‘em for long yet, Ausberry is just as green behind the ears, and Boss is concussion prone throughout his career. Gotta keep Myers
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chaz is always hurt
ford is struggling
murphy has stage fright and short arms (viagra symptoms maybe?)
moore has vanished
Hagan was solid and dependable we needed him
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You lost me on this one bruh…what did my post have to do with Hagan?
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:43 am
Hagan did not have the ball thrown to him much at all and when it was thrown to him, he made catches and ran good routes. Hagan should be put back on the roster to give us more ammo and place cj37 on IR. Never was high on cj37, he always get burned too much.
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:44 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:40 am
I just visited the 31 other team sites and voted for their longsnappers. Bout to start over too.
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Damn, Bo
You’s a hater!
lol
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:44 am
102.Kevin Flynn Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:42 am
I just sent an email to Amy Trask regarding my complete and utter disappointment in the release of Hagan. What a complete shame! we are going to pay for this…
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why dont u email me and tell me where to meet you btch………..b auce_2010@yahoo.com
I’m noy afraid to take any of you mthfkas out on this blog
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:44 am
hwnrdr Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:42 am
I guess the site is not updated that they released Hagan…he’s still on the roster…but I guess that doesn’t mean anything!
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WHAT ARE YOU SAYING?? It does mean something, it means a travesty has taken place, a complete travesty I tell you. It’s simply unfair, and inexcusable that a player with Hagan’s talents, experience, and field production is release. Hue has lost his mind, we might as well released McFadden, same results.
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:44 am
dont be a coward you wanna mock me? cuz see the b*auce and get ended bruh
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:45 am
TheToozFan55 Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:04 am
I disagree with getting rid of Hagan, if that is indeed what has happened.
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Why?
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:46 am
Let’s see who thinks they crazier than me….i’ll be checking my mail….good day btch mthfkas!
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:46 am
Please see post 92 and many others after that.
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:46 am
Method To My Madness Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:44 am
dont be a coward you wanna mock me? cuz see the b*auce and get ended bruh
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Grow up little boy, meeting me after school on the playground loses it’s luster when you turn 17. Hang in there little guy, life gets better.
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:46 am
Come on Flynn….if they released McFadden…Well, I wouldn’t know what to tell you on that one…
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:47 am
Didn’t Hue Tebow when Huff made that endzone pick?
Hue = true Raider
B is still hurtin about Soup getting broke and Gavin his Raider privileges prevoked.
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:47 am
Someone needs to check Hue Jack. He just made the Raiders worse today by letting Hagen go. F’ing HORRIBLE move! Housh is washed up. I’m getting sick of him bringing in all the Bengal players who weren’t getting it done in Cincy. We will miss Hagen. I’m freakin’ pissed right now.
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:48 am
Morning Hwnrdr! Flynn is just mocking those of us who didn’t think dumping Hagan was smart.
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:48 am
Albinator Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:47 am
Someone needs to check Hue Jack. He just made the Raiders worse today by letting Hagen go. F’ing HORRIBLE move! Housh is washed up. I’m getting sick of him bringing in all the Bengal players who weren’t getting it done in Cincy. We will miss Hagen. I’m freakin’ pissed right now.
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OMG, are you fing kidding me? So we released Hagan and Hagen? Hue needs to be fired NOW.
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:48 am
Willis McGahee carried the ball with his left hand — not his surgically repaired right — during the open portion of Broncos practice Wednesday.
McGahee still can’t use his dominant right hand, which makes us think his status is still very much in doubt for Week 9. We’ll know more by Friday.
Source: Denver Post
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Hope he plays. I want someone to punish him for embarrassing my boy “stiff armed Eugene”
lol
Payback time b!itch
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:48 am
Method To My Madness Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:43 am
89.Kevin Flynn Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:35 am
Method To My Madness Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:33 am
Hue sucks and is a fraud ngga! Black napolean complex drunk with power….wants to hook his boys up with gigs instead of having true honor and integrity….we will pay for this
Last time Palmer lobbied for a WR…it blew up in his face
FIRE this MOTHERFKER! He is ruining our SB chances
I’m done fk going to the games!
Peace out
That guy isnt Code Black…he is Code Hue
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LOL, is this performance art? If not, I’m scared.
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:49 am
What? Unbelievable! We cut Hagan? Why? We need all the WRs we had. Why the heck didn’t we cut Brandon Meyers? Real nice kid but isn’t very productive on the field during game time. Huge mistake cutting Hagan. Will Chaz stay healthy enough to contribute? Makes me scratch my head. I am baffled.
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:49 am
Kevin Flynn Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:44 am
hwnrdr Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:42 am
I guess the site is not updated that they released Hagan…he’s still on the roster…but I guess that doesn’t mean anything!
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WHAT ARE YOU SAYING?? It does mean something, it means a travesty has taken place, a complete travesty I tell you. It’s simply unfair, and inexcusable that a player with Hagan’s talents, experience, and field production is release. Hue has lost his mind, we might as well released McFadden, same results.
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Hagan was not the worst player on the team (Boller) but he is the least valuable.
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:50 am
I liked Hagen to, but if your not being played who cares if they move you. Lets see what T.J. has left before we throw him under hte bus. Grnated would have perfered glass to get cut.
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:51 am
I agree that Murphy is playing bad right now, but at least he has shown he can get open and make plays at this level, now if his hands can come back, he’ll be another weapon we can count on, you don’t cut 24 year old kids with his size, speed and potential, specially when they have made plays for you in the past and are playing out their rookie contracts.
As far as the TE’s, Boss may go down anytime, so Myers is needed as his backup, Gordon looks like he’s gonna turn into a monster blocker soon, he’s already pretty good and Ausberry can catch like a WR, maybe he develops as an Aaron Hernandez type of weapon in the future.
Point is Gordon and Ausberry have potential, Hagan at 27 is not going to to suddenly turn into Anquan Boldin, he is what he is, a 4th or 5th WR who can play ST’s.
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:51 am
B is goin Pesci on fools!
Funny HOW?! How am I funny!!!!!???
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:52 am
Goldie7 Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:49 am
What? Unbelievable! We cut Hagan? Why? We need all the WRs we had. Why the heck didn’t we cut Brandon Meyers? Real nice kid but isn’t very productive on the field during game time. Huge mistake cutting Hagan. Will Chaz stay healthy enough to contribute? Makes me scratch my head. I am baffled.
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We ALL ARE BAFFLED? Someone explain how we release TWO receivers? Hagan and Hagen, both of which are bound for the hall of fame? This is truly a sad and disturbing day in the Raider Nation. Of the likes we haven’t or hopefully will see again.
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:52 am
Goldie7,
Wassup dude?
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:52 am
Method has some funny material. You should take that rage and put it too good use down at the occupy protests.
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:52 am
86.Method To My Madness Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:33 am
Hue sucks and is a fraud ngga! Black napolean complex drunk with power….wants to hook his boys up with gigs instead of having true honor and integrity….we will pay for this
Last time Palmer lobbied for a WR…it blew up in his face
FIRE this MOTHERFKER! He is ruining our SB chances
I’m done fk going to the games!
Peace out
That guy isnt Code Black…he is Code Hue
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Let’s pause for a moment and remember that the Raiders have a. a winning record going into the bye week and b. are tied for the AFC West lead.
First time in a decade, don’t forget to enjoy it, Raider fans.
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:53 am
117.TheToozFan55 Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:48 am
Morning Hwnrdr! Flynn is just mocking those of us who didn’t think dumping Hagan was smart.
Everyone has their opinions…but whether we thinks its smart or not, its a done move…nothing we can do about it now!
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:53 am
hellsbells Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:50 am
I liked Hagen to, but if your not being played who cares if they move you. Lets see what T.J. has left before we throw him under hte bus. Grnated would have perfered glass to get cut.
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How can you say that? You are not a true Raiders fan if you don’t support Hagan.
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:53 am
Losing Hagan makes me feel sick to my stomach like when Bo Jackson went down.
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:54 am
BSJ POST-125,BETTER REMOVE ALL BALL POINT PENS..
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:54 am
I totally forgot the Raiders are tied for first place. How mainstream!
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:54 am
127.DMAC Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:52 am
Goldie7,
Wassup dude?
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Sup DMAC? How are you good buddy? Blessings!
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:55 am
hwnrdr Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:53 am
Everyone has their opinions…but whether we thinks its smart or not, its a done move…nothing we can do about it now!
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Oh yes we can my friend. We can go down to Raiders head quarters right now and protest, protest for Hagan. Come on lets do it, lets protest the travesty that has taken place. Step up Raider fans, let our voice be heard. SAVE HAGAN!! SAVE HAGAN!! SAVE HAGAN!! say it with me aloud, SAVE HAGAN!! SAVE HAGAN!!
Lets start a movement..
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:56 am
Anyone voting for Clowndo better meet me for a squabble in D lot!
I’ll be checkin my email!!!
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:56 am
NO MORE CODE BLACK, Its now:
CODE HAGAN!!!
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:56 am
I don’t hold grudges, but I didn’t want Housh for the simple fact that he dissed us and then signed w/ the Seaturds. So fk him!
But now that he’s a Raider, I guess i’ll be rooting for him now.
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:57 am
Bring back Hagan! Occupy 1220 Harbor Bay Parkway!
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:57 am
CODE CONDO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:57 am
John Jarndyce Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:57 am
Bring back Hagan! Occupy 1220 Harbor Bay Parkway!
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WELCOME ABOARD MY TRUE RAIDER BROTHER!!!
SAVE HAGAN!! SAVE HAGAN!! SAVE HAGAN!!
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:57 am
LOL…you guys are on fire.
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:58 am
KK is leading the Occupy Alameda protests already…
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:58 am
Goldie7 Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:54 am
127.DMAC Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:52 am
Goldie7,
Wassup dude?
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Sup DMAC? How are you good buddy? Blessings!
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I’m doing great. Trying to get together w/ a few patnas to go to the game Sunday. Hopefully it doesn’t rain.
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:59 am
Bo, I would vote for Condo if it let me just to be ironic.
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:00 pm
Hagan is garbage anyway. His pre-season #’s were a product of Hue wanting to see what he was. He does nothing our other WE’s can’t do, and dang sure us not as valuable ti this team as TJ will be.
Stop crying and wining over hot garbage, you’re sounding like g @ y 9er fans.
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:01 pm
I’ll be in D lot John, with an Adam Treu jersey and a Cut Condo forehead tat. Its on.
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:01 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:56 am
Anyone voting for Clowndo better meet me for a squabble in D lot!
I’ll be checkin my email!!!
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See you there! B there or b square!
lol
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:01 pm
I repeat….
CODE CONDO!!!!!!
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:02 pm
John Tweedy Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:00 pm
Hagan is garbage anyway. His pre-season #’s were a product of Hue wanting to see what he was. He does nothing our other WE’s can’t do, and dang sure us not as valuable ti this team as TJ will be.
Stop crying and wining over hot garbage, you’re sounding like g @ y 9er fans.
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How dare you? How dare you sir I say!!
Pre-season is everything, it constitutes productive numbers that truly represent what a player is, how he produces, and his future hall of fame status.
I am very mad at you for putting down the most productive WR (Hagan) in Raiders history. Hagan makes Biletnikoff look like bad.
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:03 pm
While we do have 1 too many bungals on the team…chill the F OUT! Damn…fellas…fix your panties. I liked Hagan too…IN THE PRESEASON. Whatever we need to do to make Carson feel comfortable…we do. TJ brings a swag…DID HAGAN HAVE A SWAG??
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:04 pm
ElkGRaider Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:03 pm
While we do have 1 too many bungals on the team…chill the F OUT! Damn…fellas…fix your panties. I liked Hagan too…IN THE PRESEASON. Whatever we need to do to make Carson feel comfortable…we do. TJ brings a swag…DID HAGAN HAVE A SWAG??
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So, let me get this straight, are you saying that all Raiders fans in Elk Grove don’t think Hagan was a future hall of famer?
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:05 pm
Lol. Comedy in here. Bo, you are one funny dude.
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:06 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:03 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:59 am
Aaron Curry’s tweets would make Jerry Falwell blush.
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Isn’t he recently “saved”?
Curry was recently saved from the Seahawks.
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:07 pm
ElkGRaider Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:03 pm
While we do have 1 too many bungals on the team…chill the F OUT! Damn…fellas…fix your panties. I liked Hagan too…IN THE PRESEASON. Whatever we need to do to make Carson feel comfortable…we do. TJ brings a swag…DID HAGAN HAVE A SWAG??
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He brings swag a tough pony tail.
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:07 pm
I simply can’t believe Hagan was released. Today, for the first time in my life I am questioning myself as even being a Raiders fan anymore. This is such a travesty that a player with his talents can be released. Someone please save me, help me understand this travesty.
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:09 pm
*and a
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:10 pm
I was looking forward to Tebow vs. “Hagan the Pagan”
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:11 pm
Thats what I’m sayin Flynn…took a poll and all that. There will be NO Occupy in the EG.
On a side note:
CMON DMC. Wrap your foot up with some pillows and play damnit. I got some Dr Scholls inserts for you cousin. There were a couple runs Bush had that DMC would take to the house…
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:11 pm
DMAC Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:01 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:56 am
Anyone voting for Clowndo better meet me for a squabble in D lot!
I’ll be checkin my email!!!
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See you there! B there or b square!
lol
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You better show up w/ some help, cuz I’ll have my home boy Sam Williams w/ me.
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:11 pm
As of today, I am now replacing my “AL” shirt with a “Hagan” shirt. I will be wearing in on Sunday in memorium of the great Derek Hagan!!
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:12 pm
NICK MILLER & HAGAN GONE IN 1 SEASON..NOW WHAT ?
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:12 pm
Tight end Kevin Boss (concussion) and fullback Marcel Reece (ankle) are practicing and showing no negative effects from their injuries
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Raiders 24
Horse Humpers 13
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:12 pm
Clint Eastwood on gay marriage from GQ interview:
“These people who are making a big deal out of gay marriage? I don’t give a f*ck about who wants to get married to anybody else! Why not?! We’re making a big deal out of things we shouldn’t be making a deal out of … They go on and on with all this bullsh*t about ’sanctity’ — don’t give me that sanctity crap! Just give everybody the chance to have the life they want.” — Clint Eastwood
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:12 pm
VittorioTafur That #Raiders didn’t cut Manase Tonga 4 Housh means they’re not convinced starting fullback Marcel Reece is all way back from ankle injury.
28 minutes ago
VittorioTafur Cutting one of the four tight ends was not an option, as Jackson really likes all of those guys.
26 minutes ago
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:13 pm
There were a couple runs Bush had that DMC would take to the house…
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Very true, but I think we still get pass the Donks w/ Bush and Jones. I say we rest him for the Dolts.
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:13 pm
JR Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:10 pm
I was looking forward to Tebow vs. “Hagan the Pagan”
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funny sh*t right ther, y’all
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:13 pm
Let’s all remember,
that this teamis going through an intense and unique situation with Al’s passing and the HC taking on much of his responsibilities…i’ve got to give him my support.
He’s brought this team a level of play we haven’t seen since ‘02.
Play Like a Raider!
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:13 pm
NO!!!!!!!!
The Hagan Warrior will be avenged!!!
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:13 pm
Agreed with Mr Brown – comment #4
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:15 pm
Alright peeps, im getting tired of all this whinning. We lose to chiefs who we spotted 14 points from our back up Qb and our new Qb who only had 3 days of practice and now we got the mob out on Hue. He helped raise our offense from the grave last year. This year our offense has looked bad a couple games ( the browns game when Campbell got hurt and against the chiefs). Our rushing game is #2, number 12 in total yards, number 18 in scoring, which I admit we need to raise, but come on, remember the past few years when we went 3 and out almost every drive, when our coaches refused to use our talent properly. Hue helped resurrect Dmac’s career. He is obviously making strides with DHB, and he was instrumental in Jason playing well. I am a Jason supporter, it sucks he got hurt and might be playing somewhere else next year but that’s football. He needs to learn to slide and live to play another down. Hue was forced to make a big move, He wasn’t bout to let kyle or pryor scratch his suited up 1980 Cutless Supreme. Our head coach who is bent on making our roster better went out and got the best available Qb in Carson Bomber. If he would have stayed the course with the Qb’s he had, a lot of you would be wishing that he had traded for Palmer. He paid a steep price I must admit, but remember he was dealing with a stubborn owner in Mike Brown. Only time will tell if it was a good trade, but come on Palmer haters, let the brother learn the plays before you consider him a dud. Curry was a good move by Hue and has the potential of being a massive steal. Sheppard was a good pickup because we are thin at CB. Everyone seems to be ok with that addition. Now Hue’s latest move seems to have people’s panties in a bunch. Tjwhoseurmamma IMO is a good pickup even though I am a little weary that it has the possibility to cause some locker room issues. Some players might get butt hurt that Hue is ready to replace anybody at anytime. DHB is our only receiver that has been consistent. Moore has defiantly hit the rookie wall, Ford is explosive but not a number 2 receiver, and might benefit from Tj by learning how to be that slot receiver we need him to be in the future. Chaz is always hurt, Murphy has not been the same since he came back from his injury, Hagan might be in the dog house. If Tj can move the chains, spark and mentor theses young bucks we have Im down with it. In Hue, The coach of the Oakland Raiders, Not The Oakland Campells, Not the Oakland Tonga’s ( that’s for you b auce man, come on bro Tonga over reece, ill take a 3 dimensional player, Run, Block, Catch, over a 1 dimensional player any day) I trust. And all this I wish Al was a alive to run the show, you got to be kidding me. I wish he was a alive, but not to run everyday football operations. Isn’t it weird that since Al passed on away, our Defense has played the run better and is getting better every week. And wait till we get healthy. Hue hasn’t even put his stamp on the Defense yet. Chuck is not his guy. He will get someone he trust and fits his philosophy in here next year. Our team is shaping up nicely for the rest of this season and beyond. We just got to get healty. Code Black still in affect Nation.
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:16 pm
DMAC Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:11 pm
DMAC Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:01 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:56 am
Anyone voting for Clowndo better meet me for a squabble in D lot!
I’ll be checkin my email!!!
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See you there! B there or b square!
lol
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You better show up w/ some help, cuz I’ll have my home boy Sam Williams w/ me.
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Don’t back down now BO!
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:17 pm
163.DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:12 pm
NICK MILLER & HAGAN GONE IN 1 SEASON..NOW WHAT ?
Man…had to play off a laugh in the cubicle
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:18 pm
Da trinity,
Nice post, but a little 2 long for me 2 read. Lost me after the first few sentences.
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:19 pm
Da Trinity: Post #172…
spot on bro.
CODE BLACK
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:19 pm
Is it true, that Hue’s next move will be to fire both Wylie, and big Wiz. Replacing them with Anthony Munoz, as O-line coach?…
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:21 pm
A different perspective on the Carson Palmer trade, it comes not from media, scouts, coaches but from super Agent Leigh Steinberg or “The world’s most famous sports agent”.
“The trade that sent quarterback Carson Palmer from Cincinnati to Oakland has been widely touted as a “steal” for the Bengals. The reality is that it is also a great deal for the Raiders.
The Bengals did well because they had a franchise quarterback who made it clear he would never play for the team again. They seem to have a promising young quarterback in Andy Dalton and if they develop him correctly, could have that position solidified for several years.
By sitting Carson for the first six weeks of the season, Mike Brown made his point that the Bengals will not respond well to players under contract demanding to be traded.
A first round draft pick next year and a second round selection in 2012 that could escalate to a first—if the Raiders were to make the playoffs—could be helpful in rebuilding the team. It depends on the players picked and their developmental process.
I think Al Davis is looking down on this trade with great pride in the front office. The acquisition of Palmer could turn the Raiders into a Super Bowl contender and dramatically transform their team.
Here’s why:
1. The critical nature of the quarterback position.
The modern NFL is a passing league supplemented by the run. West Coast offenses and rules changes—which make it difficult to cover wide receivers—have revolutionized the way the game is played.
The difference between a franchise quarterback—a player that teams can win “because of” rather than “with”—and a quarterback dearth leading to musical chairs, is franchise changing.
The position is difficult to draft and needs careful tutelage and study to play well.
Every season that a quarterback plays enhances their vision on the field and ability to master the skill-set.
Peyton Manning, John Elway and Troy Aikman are examples of “first pick in the draft” quarterbacks that have led teams to multiple Super Bowls.
Players like Aaron Rodgers, Ben Roethlisberger and Joe Flacco were later picks in the first round.
Matthew Stafford and Matt Ryan are “top of the draft” picks that are still developing and Alex Smith is showing promise under new head coach Jim Harbaugh.
Occasionally, a Drew Brees or Tom Brady are available later. But the competition for these players is intense and teams are loathe to give them up once they perform.
Think of all the acrimonious negotiations that occur with NFL players and how few of them involve quarterbacks. Their contracts are normally extended and these players never become free agents. It takes time to develop chemistry between offensive lines, receivers and quarterbacks.
2. The Raiders have a need.
The Raiders flourished with quality quarterbacking from Ken Stabler, Jim Plunkett, and Rich Gannon, but they have been trying to fill this need for many years.
Jason Campbell is injured and not a proven long-term solution. A developing young team needs quality quarterbacking.
Oakland has a premiere running back in Darren McFadden and talented young wide receivers. With an experienced winning quarterback, their offense could be explosive.
The Raiders have experienced attendance problems these past several years and an exciting quarterback and revitalized offense would be a crowd pleaser.
3. Draft picks are risky.
I have been representing NFL players since 1975 and have had 60 first round draft picks as clients and eight players selected first overall.
Quarterback drafting is risky…just look at the first round of the 1999 Draft. Where are first-rounders Tim Couch, Akili Smith, Daunte Culpepper and Cade McNown, who should all be in their prime? And if you recall, Ryan Leaf was picked No. 2 overall.
The care and breeding of young quarterbacks is excruciatingly difficult and how many draft picks does it take to insure a franchise quarterback?. The other first and second round picks carry the chance of not fulfilling their potential.
4. Carson Palmer is a good bet to resurrect his career.
As long as a quarterback can avoid injury to his legs, he tends to get better with age. Arm strength may not fade until his 40’s and play-calling gets better and better.
Carson was the first pick of the 2002 draft and got the benefit of sitting and learning for a couple of years. From 2004 until 2007, he was among the NFL’s statistical elite, with a quarterback rating of 90.1 and a completion percentage of 64.1. His TD to INT ratio was 104-63 during that time span.
He made the Pro Bowl in 2005 and 2006 and then suffered a serious elbow injury that caused him to miss twelve games during the 2007 season. His performance diminished after that, but he is an excellent bet to return to his previous status.
Palmer is healthy, seasoned and will have multiple motivations to prove his worth again. I predict he will be very successful.
The Raiders made a great deal!.”
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:21 pm
#37 – great post and breakdown on the slot WR spot and Housh’s fit there. Totally agree.
#67 – LOL on resting Champ
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:22 pm
909.. where did you hear that?? That’s a joke..
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:22 pm
Oh schit!
And I thought that Trinidy’s post was long.
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:23 pm
Odell Thurman spotted at Raider practice wearing #54
-Paul Gutierrez (twitter)
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:25 pm
yol whatzzzzz up mcfadden20 i was watching finals vs boston last night game 3 when fish carries us on his back..schits bringing tears to my eyes…Epic..good vid with all the music behind it…
Anyway, who ever lines up sunday i be screaming for , at , with to get the win S&B the only place this snake want to be…
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:25 pm
CorkOnTheNFL Steve Corkran
WR Derek Hagan caught five passes for 61 yards against the Bills in a back-and-forth game. Now, apparently he isn’t good enought to keep.
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VittorioTafur Vittorio Tafur
by CorkOnTheNFL
Some players still apparently on scholarship; letting Hagan go had nothing to do with production — which Hue said was all that mattered
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November 2nd, 2011 at 12:26 pm
Sam Williams? He lives on crutches. Ima ace him too just cuz Fresno is so lame.
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:27 pm
178. … Raiders would have to make it to afc championship. .. over the next 2 seasons. .. otherwise, only have to fork over one first rounder and a second rounder. ..
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:27 pm
WR Derek Hagan caught five passes for 61 yards against the Bills in a back-and-forth game. Now, apparently he isn’t good enough to keep.
Some players still apparently on scholarship; letting Hagan go had nothing to do with production — which Hue said was all that mattered
-Vittorio Tafur & Steve Corkran
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Exactly!
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:27 pm
By the way, here’s an excellent reply to the Leigh Steinberg article by a Raiders fan:
“Nice writeup Leigh. One thing I think you could also add to that analysis is that Oakland is both a fairly young and complete team.
Every position they don’t have a competent starter, they have a promising youngster.
A year off from the draft (they will still have a few mid-rounders) will hurt them less that most other teams assuming that they retain their own FAs and/or replace anyone who leaves.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying 1st round picks are ever useless, but as a very avid Raiders fan, I would be taking the Best Player Available if the draft we’re tomorrow because there are 0 holes to fill (with undeveloped draft picks) in the team as it stands.
Sure the right side of the OL COULD use a stud. Maybe a great DB too. But we have a rookie RT, a 2nd year RG and two rookie CBs who are really coming on.
They’ll need a replacement back for Bush and some depth, they can thrive without a couple picks for a top tier QB.”
I could not agree more, there are young, talented players on every unit, we even have our QB of the future already in Pryor.
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:28 pm
Pac Man Jones spotted at Raiders practice wearing #31
- Vittorio Tafur (twitter)
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:29 pm
SI_JimTrotter Jim Trotter
by VittorioTafur
@ MT @VittorioTafur Don’t understand letting Hagan go. Big catches in (loss) at Buff, played STs good locker room guy. Definitely not worst WR
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:29 pm
PFT reporting that the Raiders are bringing Ickey Woods in for a try out.
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:30 pm
DMAC,
#31 ???
#31 = Hiram Eugene!
Is he back in time to face Willis McStiffarmme?
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:30 pm
Pac man?? Didnt he just pull a hamy
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:30 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:26 pm
Sam Williams? He lives on crutches. Ima ace him too just cuz Fresno is so lame.
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Let’s fk’n do this!
lol
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:30 pm
On the choice between cutting Chaz, Murph or Hagan, does anyone know what each of their contract situations are? That may have played into the decision, in terms of salary cap, long term costs and keeper value, and so forth. If Hagan was signed to a one year, incentive heavy deal, then that increases his expendability.
Also bear in mind that Hagan was a free agent coming into this season for a reason. He likely will be again next season, as will about 20 other WRs of his caliber and skill set. He’s just not a hugely valuable commodity in the NFL. Not saying that Chaz or Murph are either, but they may be more cap friendly or long term keepable.
Also worth thinking about is that if Hagan catches everything thrown to him, why so few catches? Because he’s so good that coach wants to keep him of the field? Or maybe because he wasn’t getting open all that often in order to get the throws in the first place. Sure, he could get open in pre-season against 3rd stringers and scrubs about to be cut, but against 1st string starters maybe he just doesn’t have enough speed and/or moves to matchup against.
Both Chaz and Murph seem to have a better track record at getting open which is sort of a requirement before you have to worry about catching the ball. And maybe Housh is also an upgrade in this department based on his years of experience and knowing how to work the seams against the zone coverages to provide CP3 with a safe outlet when needed.
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:31 pm
Marley keeping it real and level headed.I notice APB may be retired,but Sybil has a couple of new alter egos.
What is all the whining about the #6 WR on the team being replaced.Some of you are acting like we cut Timmy Brown.Get real!
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:31 pm
Again, I repeat….said it before…I don’t agree with it..can’t understand it…but knew it was coming and said so yesterday….
247.SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:
November 1st, 2011 at 4:18 pm
Ted – Poor Hagan will probably be the unlucky one. Dude can’t get a break wherever he goes, yet he rarely drops the ball and runs good routes (will admit he’s not fast), but he’s reliable.
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:31 pm
TJCatches84 TJ Houshmandzadeh
by VittorioTafur
This is a once in a life time experience to team up CP again. I will make the best out of every opportunity here in Oakland. Just Win baby!
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:32 pm
More worried about losing Hagan on special teams.
Was very under control downing the pooch punts, and that was a welcome relief from seeing guys in the past have no idea how to man that position.
Oh well, with Houshy now, we won’t be punting at all right?
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:32 pm
Looking forward to seeing what CP has in store for us. Would love to see at least 4 out of 7 successful deep bombs this Sunday
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:33 pm
More than ready to take on these donkies, bye weeks been horrendus wiating, has given our flaming red QB time to gel …open mind going in,but make no bones about it i want to pummel them,
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:33 pm
Or maybe because he wasn’t getting open all that often in order to get the throws in the first place
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Excellent point
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:34 pm
Leigh is a shill. Giving up two firsts for a qb who just got off his worst year shows this organization should have passed on the reins to the WaterBoy. Palmer had a 17 qb rating, worst of his career. After the worst year of his career. We ARE the dumbest team in America.
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:34 pm
On the choice between cutting Chaz, Murph or Hagan, does anyone know what each of their contract situations are? That may have played into the decision, in terms of salary cap, long term costs and keeper value, and so forth. If Hagan was signed to a one year, incentive heavy deal, then that increases his expendability.
Also bear in mind that Hagan was a free agent coming into this season for a reason. He likely will be again next season, as will about 20 other WRs of his caliber and skill set. He’s just not a hugely valuable commodity in the NFL. Not saying that Chaz or Murph are either, but they may be more cap friendly or long term keepable.
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Z,
all 3 making peanuts. contract year for Chaz & Hagan. Murphy under contract until 2014 I think
Hagan has a history with Palmer and heavily praised the signing, while Murphy was the only guy who gave Boller props after Campbell went down. Murphy also openly gave props to Russell while he was the starter in Oakland, struggling like Chris Farley trying to put on David Spade’s jacket *fat guy in a little coat*
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:35 pm
Housh is now on board, so I can’t do nothing, but root for him.
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:35 pm
Troll alert!
Troll alert!
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:36 pm
We ARE the dumbest team in America
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The Niners seem smarter with Harbaugh…
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:36 pm
The Raiders have cut Kyle Boller to make room for new backup qb Boomer Esiason
-vittorio tafur twitter
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:36 pm
I’ll say it again, because most of you are slow. Tebow will own us this weekend, and it won’t be pretty. Carson will turnover the ball so many times, Pillsbury is going to name a pastry after him. Niners are looking better and better. I’m off to WalMart to score another hoodie.
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:37 pm
“Whooo let the trolls out!?”
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:38 pm
Tonga out. QB David Klingler on deck
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:39 pm
Myers cut- Dan Land on deck.
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:39 pm
ELKG=MR
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:39 pm
Bringing in an outsider like Houshy in the middle of a fairly successful beginning of the season HAS TO be a slap in the face to some of the WR’s.
The game is a business, and they are all big-boys so I don’t feel bad for them.
But it may take a minute for some of the team to warm up to this.
Although, some clutch catches will help expedite that a little.
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:39 pm
Tebow will own us this weekend, and it won’t be pretty
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The Niners play the Skins this weekend
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:40 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:33 am
Hue sucks and is a fraud ngga! Black napolean complex drunk with power….wants to hook his boys up with gigs instead of having true honor and integrity….we will pay for this
Last time Palmer lobbied for a WR…it blew up in his face
FIRE this MOTHERFKER! He is ruining our SB chances
I’m done fk going to the games!
Peace out
That guy isnt Code Black…he is Code Hue
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You better be there Saturday, or I’m gonna hunt you down. Are you so stupid you actually believe we have Super Bowl chances? I’m ashamed you’re a Raider fan. You bragged about swapping chugs with Hue, and now you dis your boy? It’s on.
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:40 pm
The Raiders have cut Kyle Boller to make room for new backup qb Akili Smith
-vittorio tafur (twitter)
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:41 pm
The TROLLS can start an ‘Occupy Rocklin” encampment waiting for the 9ers to come back for training camp…
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:41 pm
Your a mad cat sullivan
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:41 pm
ElkGRaider Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:39 pm
Tebow will own us this weekend, and it won’t be pretty
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The Niners play the Skins this weekend
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Tebow plays Raiders. Niners play skins. I support both teams, and it looks like my team is going to the Super Bowl, for a 6th ring.
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:42 pm
Bengals trade 2012 # 2, and 2013 #3 picks to Raiders, for Pro Bowl longsnapper Jon Condo——PFT.com
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:42 pm
Kevin Flynn Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:57 am
John Jarndyce Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:57 am
Bring back Hagan! Occupy 1220 Harbor Bay Parkway!
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WELCOME ABOARD MY TRUE RAIDER BROTHER!!!
SAVE HAGAN!! SAVE HAGAN!! SAVE HAGAN!!
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Sounds like the same troll talking to himself.
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:43 pm
The Raiders have just released the color silver and will be replacing it in their scheme with orange.
-vittorio tafur (twitter)
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:43 pm
213.ghostraiders Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:39 pm
ELKG=MR
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Who the hell is MR? And who comes up with a dumb@ss name like ghostraiders?
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:44 pm
Sybil being trolled now, even.
Or is he trolling by trolling himself?
Troll²
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:44 pm
909! Source?????
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:45 pm
Too many trolls…..BBL!
Peace!
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:45 pm
ElkGRaider Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:36 pm
We ARE the dumbest team in America
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The Niners seem smarter with Harbaugh…
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Seem smarter? The Niners would be smarter with a rock running things. With Harbaugh, the NFL knows the Niners are smarter. Smarter than most, if not all. As usual we come up short against the best team in the bay area. Even up here in Sac the rumble is about the Niners, while the laughing is against the Raiders.
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:45 pm
@205 dmac
Yea man, whats done is done.. Hez S&B i hope h fkn kills it…
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:45 pm
WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!You are kidding me???????????????
News just in Bruce Campbell and a #2 in the 2013 draft was just traded to NE for Ocho Cinco.
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:46 pm
Ginger Head Man throws deep to TJ the Terrorist….
20..10..touchdown RAAAAIIIIDDDERRRRRRSSSSS
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:46 pm
221.909RaiderLifer Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:42 pm
Bengals trade 2012 # 2, and 2013 #3 picks to Raiders, for Pro Bowl longsnapper Jon Condo——PFT.com
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Pretty good…pretty good…
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:46 pm
Tebow will own us this weekend, and it won’t be pretty
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I fully expect Tim Tebow to play well this weekend, but “own us” ? Come on, man. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Timmy throw for 200 and run for 60. 1 TD rushing and 1 passing
Raiders stuff the run and we’ll win. plain & simple
Week 1 we did that.
McGahee, Moreno & Ball shut down = game over
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:46 pm
r8eray Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:45 pm
Too many trolls…..BBL!
Peace!
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You didn’t post anything. How can you be missed. Just stay away, do the site a favor.
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:46 pm
Elkg and MR are the same pathetic morons!! …
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:47 pm
VittorioTafur Vittorio Tafur
Hue also said that “Coach” Davis wanted Hagan back in training camp and he wanted Houshmandzadeh
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VittorioTafur Vittorio Tafur
Hue said young receivers are “future of the team” and it was tough to cut Hagan
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:47 pm
♫ Trollin! Trollin! Trollin on a river! ♫
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:48 pm
CorkOnTheNFL Steve Corkran
Coach Jackson calls waiving Derek Hagan “hard” decision. Adds he wanted to sign Houshmandzadeh in camp, but “coach (Al) Davis” wanted Hagan.
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:48 pm
And Another thing..Bush better not look like Nick Bell out there this weekend…..Is’t he looking for the Big Payday?
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:48 pm
Someone forgot to take his medication. …
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:48 pm
Blackmamba_20 Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:45 pm
@205 dmac
Yea man, whats done is done.. Hez S&B i hope h fkn kills it…
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Yeah, we can’t do schit, but root from him to make plays and help our team win.
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:48 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:44 pm
Sybil being trolled now, even.
Or is he trolling by trolling himself?
Troll²
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Say what you want. It’s my opinion. You can’t seem to form an opinion. You wait for someone else to tell you what your opinion is, then you blindly defend it. That’s weak.
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:49 pm
I find it nuts people are losing it over Hagen. I picked him as my MUP. I wanted to see him do well. But the fact is he wasn’t being used. The other WR’s that could have been cut the Raiders have invested in with draft picks. Hagen was a FA.
Also blaming Hue makes no since. I don’t believe he is just running around doing all these things all by himself.
For all anyone knows Mark Davis may have said no to cutting Murphy or Chaz because of how his father felt about them or all they invested in them.
We dropped a capable wr for a guy our new Qb chose. Not that big of a deal.
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:49 pm
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Running back Darren McFadden leaving building on crutches. Right foot still in protective boot. Not the look of a guy who might play Sunday.
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Coach Jackson says Chris Johnson making progress. No mention of Johnson going on injured reserve.
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:49 pm
News just in Bruce Campbell and a #2 in the 2013 draft was just traded to NE for Ocho Cinco.
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CJL,
I can actually see that happening this offseason.
quit that!!! you know Hue Jackson reads the comments section of this blog
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:49 pm
ghostraiders Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:46 pm
Elkg and MR are the same pathetic morons!!
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Do I post like this MR? Do I troll on here? Do some research before claiming Nostrodamus. And make posts that adds to the discussion…
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:50 pm
Say what you want. It’s my opinion. You can’t seem to form an opinion. You wait for someone else to tell you what your opinion is, then you blindly defend it. That’s weak.
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Link?
Source?
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:50 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:47 pm
♫ Trollin! Trollin! Trollin on a river! ♫
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“Whooo let trolls out!!”
(How did u add the musical notes?)
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:51 pm
WTF has Hagan done to get this much love in here? He looked like he could be a decent possesion type reciever, but TJ will be an upgrade imo. There was know way they were going to cut one of the younger more talented recievers. So calm the Fk dowm man jeez
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:51 pm
ghostraiders Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:46 pm
Elkg and MR are the same pathetic morons!! …
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You said it once, and then said it again. Are you dyslexic? Or just hoping someone notices you?
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:51 pm
sounds like Al wouldn’t have made this move
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:51 pm
My favorite Raider of all time was Jeff Hostetler. I loved his mustache. So blue collar.
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:52 pm
Hue also said that “Coach” Davis wanted Hagan back in training camp and he wanted Houshmandzadeh
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seriously ???
what a slap in the face. Think Mark & Carol would appreciate this roster move, followed by the comment?
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:52 pm
realtruraider Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:51 pm
WTF has Hagan done to get this much love in here? He looked like he could be a decent possesion type reciever, but TJ will be an upgrade imo. There was know way they were going to cut one of the younger more talented recievers. So calm the Fk dowm man jeez
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Don’t tell me what to do. I’m po’ed because some of you Uncle Tom’s can’t follow the script, and I’ll be damned if I’m going to just sit back and watch.
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:53 pm
Why would Hue even invite the media scrutiny that comes along with saying a statement like “Al wanted Hagan, I wanted Housh” ???
I’m Hue Jack City until the wheels fall off, but he got me head scratching on that one. He shouldn’t have to justify why he made a move regardless if me and a million other cats disagree with it. Just steer the ship Hue. Don’t feed into media!
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:53 pm
Where’s my b’ch Brien? He and I have issues to settle, and it won’t be pretty. He probably got kicked out of his room for having too many skanks on wheels show up.
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:54 pm
If TJ Housh has so much left in the tank why wasn’t he signed in August, September or October ???
Terrell Owens has been injured. What is TJ’s excuse?
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:54 pm
Is Vittorio nuts? Clint on gays tweet?
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:54 pm
and it seems a little classless to even point that out…again; I’m with Hue ’cause he’s our guy, but thats a definite head-scratcher
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:55 pm
DMAC,
Google ‘alt code list.’ That particular alt code is Alt+14
Believe me, I could go overboard with those, but I must… show…. restraint
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:55 pm
Thanx
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:55 pm
Why would Hue even invite the media scrutiny that comes along with saying a statement like “Al wanted Hagan, I wanted Housh” ???
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Good point. That is why the Raiders are who they are. Dont show their cards (even if they win a pot).
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:55 pm
My favorite Raider of all time was Jeff Hostetler. I loved his mustache. So blue collar.
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Then you must not be old enough to remember Ben Davidson!
http://www.itsalreadysigned4u.com/shop/media/images/product_detail/normal_bdavidson8×10.jpg
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:56 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:52 pm
Hue also said that “Coach” Davis wanted Hagan back in training camp and he wanted Houshmandzadeh
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seriously ???
what a slap in the face. Think Mark & Carol would appreciate this roster move, followed by the comment?
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Rather curious.
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:56 pm
BSJ….Here ya go…
http://www.profootballtalk.com/bengal-trade-two-picks-for-raiders-pro-bowler-condo/2011/2/11
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:56 pm
Why would Hue even invite the media scrutiny that comes along with saying a statement like “Al wanted Hagan, I wanted Housh” ???
I’m Hue Jack City until the wheels fall off, but he got me head scratching on that one. He shouldn’t have to justify why he made a move regardless if me and a million other cats disagree with it. Just steer the ship Hue.
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Bleeder,
for an egghead, sometimes Hue acts like a real bonehead
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:57 pm
If TJ Housh has so much left in the tank why wasn’t he signed in August, September or October ???
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I didn’t like the move but to be fair don’t know how many teams were after Hagan
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:58 pm
Beatdown †ebow.
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:59 pm
Hue always had a big head, figuratively and literally. Now he’s so full of himself he can play that porker in the commercials “feed the pig”. Stupid play calling. Stupid signings. Stupid releases. Stupid comments to press. Amy has always been a token head, and Marc knows zero about football. Is this the beginning of the end?
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:59 pm
Interesting quote from Hue.
For my money, I’ll take Coach Davis’ personnel moves over Huey’s.
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:59 pm
Thanks zymurge! I’m going to come up with a Raiders all stache team and create a blog about it.
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:00 pm
how many teams were after Hagan
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who knows?
He could probably start for a few teams, like St Louis or Cleveland.
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:00 pm
Thx 909. Southwick made the right call on that one…
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:00 pm
Anybody else notice that “Al” has been replaced by “Hue” in a large number of these posts?
What was ___ thinking, this guy is washed up?
Why would you keep this guy on the roster, _____??
Man, _____ needs to relinquish some power, hire a GM!
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:01 pm
Stupid 20 yr old girl going for money. Claims her 3 month old child was fathered in 30 seconds by Justin Beiber.(what a stud!) Idiot! Makes him 16 at the time and opens her to statutory rape charges.
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:01 pm
Cris Collinsworth spotted on the field in a number 80 Jersey today. McFadden released to make room.
-vittorio tafur (twitter)
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:02 pm
Raider fans protesting at Raiders HQ. Signs with “Hagan” and chanting, save Hagan, save Hangan
-vittorio tafur (twitter)
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:03 pm
Hue’s license plates:
WWADD
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:03 pm
TJH signing and Hagan release becoming another weekly distraction? Team should stay focused on taking out the Broncos on Sunday. Nothing else matters for now. Can’t underestimate anyone!
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:03 pm
Exla,
Justin Beiber is more of a “family man” than LA to TheBay … print that
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:03 pm
Hue’s w/ me?
http://thepigeontoe.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/huejacksonsteroids.jpg
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:04 pm
Southwick made the right call on that one
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BSJ,
pretty sure Southwick is gonna ace Prez BO in the upcoming election!
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:05 pm
Justin Beiber is so cool.
-vittorio tafur (twitter)
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:05 pm
Thanks for the memories
http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/images/photos/001/357/488/122720321_crop_650×440.jpg?1316120445
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:05 pm
John Jarndyce Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:59 pm
Thanks zymurge! I’m going to come up with a Raiders all stache team and create a blog about it.
_________________
Here are two for you to start with:
WR Fred Biletnikoff
TE Todd Christensen
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:05 pm
I don’t like that quote from Hue. I think Housyourmamas play on the field will justify his decision though. IN HUE I TRUST
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:05 pm
245.RaiderRockstar Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:49 pm
News just in Bruce Campbell and a #2 in the 2013 draft was just traded to NE for Ocho Cinco.
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CJL,
I can actually see that happening this offseason.
quit that!!! you know Hue Jackson reads the comments section of this blog
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RR- You know Hagan was my boy from training camp. I thought under a QB that could spread the ball around like Palmer this guy could explode. Now I got old @$$ Housh runnin around. This guy was not picked up for the league minumum. We pick him up, what?????? We need to go with youth. Put Hagan on a time like the Saints and he is a play maker. Watch!
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:06 pm
Darren McFadden exited the Raiders’ facility in a protective boot and on crutches after missing Wednesday’s practice.
At this point, neither the Oakland Tribune nor the San Francisco Chronicle expects McFadden to play in Week 9. Trib beat reporter Steve Corkran suggests that the Raiders will target their Week 10 Thursday Night Football matchup with San Diego for McFadden’s return. It’s a division game, and the organization believes it can defeat Tim Tebow’s Broncos without Run DMC.
Source: Steve Corkran on Twitter
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:06 pm
John Jarndyce, how about Tooz and Alzado too?
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:06 pm
Wassup Corky!
You sure are showing twitter some love!
Wassup w/ us hyenas in the blog?
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:07 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:05 pm
Thanks for the memories
http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/images/photos/001/357/488/122720321_crop_650×440.jpg?1316120445
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OMG, are you kidding me? Why don’t you just stab me in the back. You jerk! I just started crying again, I will really miss seeing Hagan in Silver and Black. He was simply the best WR to EVER put on a Raiders uniform. This is a travesty!!
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:07 pm
Kevin Federline > Kevin Flynn
-Jerry McDonald (twitter)
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:08 pm
I know many on here are upset that we got rid of Hagan when TJ was signed but the reality is this:
Head to head in the last three games Hagan has about 2 more receptions than TJ.
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:08 pm
266.RaiderRockstar Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 12:56 pm
Why would Hue even invite the media scrutiny that comes along with saying a statement like “Al wanted Hagan, I wanted Housh” ???
I’m Hue Jack City until the wheels fall off, but he got me head scratching on that one. He shouldn’t have to justify why he made a move regardless if me and a million other cats disagree with it. Just steer the ship Hue.
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Bleeder,
for an egghead, sometimes Hue acts like a real bonehead
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yea…can only hope our boys are ready to smash on the Broncs. Anything less than a 3 score win (17 pts at least) has to be considered a disappointment. I’ll take any W of course, but with a little curiousity brewing I’m sure in the locker room and with upper mgmt., Hue has gotta put on a show now.
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:08 pm
http://www.exposay.com/celebrity-photos/nick-miller-89-2010-nfl-denver-broncos-m3wBBT.jpg
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Ballin!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:09 pm
Cutting the #6 WR on your team and replacing him is not a distraction.Too many of you are totally over reacting and over valuing a marginal player.Just because Corkran said he was one of our best WRs and just because a couple of people on here kept proclaiming him the next great Raider WR doesn’t mean it was fact.Every other WR on the team has more potential and a higher ceiling.No big loss and probably an upgrade.
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:09 pm
Silverandblack666 > Kenny Powers
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:09 pm
Kevin Hart > Kevin Flynn
Source: Steve Corkran on Twitter
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:09 pm
I think Hue should shut the freak up and stop grand standing to the media and get back to the basics of playing football. Confidence is one thing but all this I, I, I media BS is becoming old.
Hue just play ball, stop all the triple lending BS and has been selections and play ball!!!!!We were making progress by executing.
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:09 pm
504 Raider Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:08 pm
I know many on here are upset that we got rid of Hagan when TJ was signed but the reality is this:
Head to head in the last three games Hagan has about 2 more receptions than TJ.
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How can you say such things? You are not a true Raiders fan. Now hear this, ANYONE of you that doesn’t think the release of Hagan and Hagen is a travesty is not a true Raiders fan. Hagan and Hagen were the heart and soul of the Raiders. We shall never again see the like of Derek Hagan or Derrick Hagen.
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:11 pm
Derek Hagan > Kevin Flynn #1 Fan
-Jerry McDonald (twitter)
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:11 pm
DMAC LMAO!!!!!!
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295.DMAC Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:08 pm
http://www.exposay.com/celebrity-photos/nick-miller-89-2010-nfl-denver-broncos-m3wBBT.jpg
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Ballin!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:11 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:03 pm
Hue’s license plates:
WWADD
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LOL Instant classic!
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:12 pm
LOL @ DMAC!
http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/827/659/107721986_display_image.jpg?1301695255
Ballin !!!
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:13 pm
Tafur tweets about lohan and gay marriage, but covers the raiders? Herrera, keep this rod smoker outta our lockerroom.
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:14 pm
I miss my boy Eugene.
lol
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:14 pm
Time to re-sign Bush is now. McFragile misses too many games every year.
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:14 pm
back 2 work – later gents!
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:19 pm
McFadden isn’t playing this Sunday. Taiwan needs to get the ball in open space. Bush is solid but won’t get us the 40-60 yard big plays that break spirits of the defense like McFadden does so well. I wouldn’t mind seeing a toss on goaline to Taiwan, rather than Bush trying to jump or get 1 yard at line lol.
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:19 pm
When I think about all the variables, it totally makes sense to choose Hagan as the odd guy out to make room for TJ. In this day and age of tight NFL budgets, the Raiders realized that they could reuse the capital H, both a’s and the n from Hagan’s name, thus considerably reducing the cost of all those letters to spell Houshmandzadeh on the back of the jersey.
An unofficial Radiers insider was quoted as saying, “Sure, from a production standpoint cutting Murphy made more sense. But what would we do with all those unused letters in his name? I mean, we’re talking two y’s, one for each jersey color!”
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:20 pm
Justin Beiber is more of a “family man” than LA to TheBay … print that
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Podunk, I may not hunt and gather for my fam in the woods but I hold it down.
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:21 pm
Cubs fire Quade, Epstein hires SDakota unknown to manage.
- JimmyPiersall (twitter)
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:21 pm
307.DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:14 pm
Time to re-sign Bush is now. McFragile misses too many games every year.
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Its Mcfadden , name calling is reserved for smucks who deserve it
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:23 pm
Bush avg. 5.8 yards per on 17 carries last game. I’ll take that all day. Bush isnt a break away guy. He just breaks the spirit of the Def.
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:23 pm
313.Blackmamba_20 Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:21 pm
307.DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:14 pm
Time to re-sign Bush is now. McFragile misses too many games every year.
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Its Mcfadden , name calling is reserved for smucks who deserve it
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Hey man, we all love McFadden just as much as I’m sure Dakota does; but even he would probably say McFadden has earned the nickname McFragile. Until he plays 16, hell, even 14 games in one year, he’s earned that moniker.
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:24 pm
Smuck > DWAC
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:25 pm
CODE CONDO!!!
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:25 pm
u idiots who think signing tj and releasing hagan was some big deal, get a brain. hagan wasn’t doing anything for us. right now we have a 4th year wr (chaz) w/ lots of lost time, 2 3rd year wr’s (dhb, murphy), a 2nd year wr (ford), and a rookie (moore). having a veteran who has posted great #’s and has can be a go-to 3rd down guy is a great move.
and here’s another thing: it won’t matter if myers, tonga, or whatever backup gets tossed. they’re role players. the starters are what matters. the guys who play. we’re 4-3, and soon to be 5-3. we’re in 1st place. enjoy it or shut it.
raiders 31
broncos 13
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:26 pm
315.SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:23 pm
313.Blackmamba_20 Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:21 pm
307.DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:14 pm
Time to re-sign Bush is now. McFragile misses too many games every year.
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Its Mcfadden , name calling is reserved for smucks who deserve it
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Hey man, we all love McFadden just as much as I’m sure Dakota does; but even he would probably say McFadden has earned the nickname McFragile. Until he plays 16, hell, even 14 games in one year, he’s earned that moniker.
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Each to there own i guess.. but we know he goes hard and runs hard and aint soft.. his body just fails him
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:27 pm
all these freakin games that hue plays are really suited for the forty whiners…looks like the raiders hired the wrong coach…
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:27 pm
310.Zymurge Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:19 pm
When I think about all the variables, it totally makes sense to choose Hagan as the odd guy out to make room for TJ. In this day and age of tight NFL budgets, the Raiders realized that they could reuse the capital H, both a’s and the n from Hagan’s name, thus considerably reducing the cost of all those letters to spell Houshmandzadeh on the back of the jersey.
An unofficial Radiers insider was quoted as saying, “Sure, from a production standpoint cutting Murphy made more sense. But what would we do with all those unused letters in his name? I mean, we’re talking two y’s, one for each jersey color!”
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Post of the day. That is funny.
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:28 pm
Jonathan Condo (born August 26, 1981) in Philipsburg, Pennsylvania is an American football long snapper for the Oakland Raiders in the National Football League. He played college football at the University of Maryland.
Condo played high school football at Philipsburg-Osceola High School. There he was an All-State linebacker, and participant in the Big 33 Football Classic. Condo still holds many of Philipsburg-Osceola’s football records.
He was also an all-state selection in baseball, as a catcher on the P-O baseball squad, and in his senior year he won the PIAA Wrestling AAA classification 275 weight limit championship. Jon finished the year with only one blemish on his record.
Condo was an exclusive rights free agent in 2008, but the Raiders re-signed him.
On October 19, in a game against the New York Jets, the Raiders were forced to punt on a 3 and out. Condo directly snapped the ball to outside linebacker Jon Alston, who ran it for 22 yards on a fake punt play. He was added to the Pro Bowl for 2010.
Condo in November 2008
On July 27, 2011, the Oakland Raiders resigned condo to a 3 year deal.
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VOTE CONDO to his 2nd pro bowl trip.
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:29 pm
rob_raider Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:25 pm
u idiots who think signing tj and releasing hagan was some big deal, get a brain. hagan wasn’t doing anything for us. right now we have a 4th year wr (chaz) w/ lots of lost time, 2 3rd year wr’s (dhb, murphy), a 2nd year wr (ford), and a rookie (moore). having a veteran who has posted great #’s and has can be a go-to 3rd down guy is a great move.
and here’s another thing: it won’t matter if myers, tonga, or whatever backup gets tossed. they’re role players. the starters are what matters. the guys who play. we’re 4-3, and soon to be 5-3. we’re in 1st place. enjoy it or shut it.
raiders 31
broncos 13
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Dude, have you lost your mind? You simply don’t release a pro bowl type talent and future hall of famer (Hagan) for a receiver who has played with, practiced with, and is experienced with our current QB. TJ over Hagan makes NO sense. Hagan is a future hall of famer, what is TJ?
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:29 pm
Why isn’t anyone focusing on the special teams aspect of this trade-off?
Pretty basic, Hagan rarely played offensively, and played ALL THE TIME on special teams, including being a gunner on punt coverage, and also on kickoff coverage.
That is the only loss here.
Hagan as a WR was not all that productive. Hagan as a ST WAS VERY PRODUCTIVE.
Next time Ndukwe or whatever botches a beautiful Shane pooch punt and let’s it go into the end zone, maybe you will understand than.
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:29 pm
I like Hagan. He’s a solid vet but still relatively young. He’ll definitely get scooped up quick. Wish he were still in S&B though. No need to carry 4 TEs. Not convinced TJH is a better option than Hagan at this time either.
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:29 pm
Mamba – yea, it’s his team 4real. We go as far as he takes us. It just gets frustrating every time he goes down and it looks awkward or he gets up slow to know that the Raider Nation is simultaneously sighing and saying “here we go again”…. yet and still, love that guy to death
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:29 pm
314.DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:23 pm
Bush avg. 5.8 yards per on 17 carries last game. I’ll take that all day. Bush isnt a break away guy. He just breaks the spirit of the Def.
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He also has an uncanny ability to get stonewalled when carrying over 230 pounds…
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:30 pm
SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:23 pm
313.Blackmamba_20 Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:21 pm
307.DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:14 pm
Time to re-sign Bush is now. McFragile misses too many games every year.
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Its Mcfadden , name calling is reserved for smucks who deserve it
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I sir am a McFadden fan. But he is what he is….injury prone. Relax!
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:31 pm
Steve Corkran
@CorkOnTheNFL
Coach Jackson calls waiving Derek Hagan “hard” decision. Adds he wanted to sign Houshmandzadeh in camp, but “coach (Al) Davis” wanted Hagan.
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Whoa Nelly! What did I tell you guys about the ghost of Al Davis not approving of this move? Did Hue really come ou with this Corkran? Wow. I’m here to tell you goons ‘I told you so’
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:31 pm
Bush tripped over Tonga twice on that series against KC…should have stretched it out at least once, but what’s done is done…
Got to beat Denver, period.
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:32 pm
Bush’s yardage totals were very misleading last week.
He had a couple of decent runs on 3rd and super-long that padded them a little.
He looked like a dime a dozen back, IMO.
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:32 pm
I like Bush 2, but I’ll take a healthy DMAC for 12-13 games a season, rather than a healthy Bush for 16.
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:33 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:29 pm
Why isn’t anyone focusing on the special teams aspect of this trade-off?
Pretty basic, Hagan rarely played offensively, and played ALL THE TIME on special teams, including being a gunner on punt coverage, and also on kickoff coverage.
That is the only loss here.
Hagan as a WR was not all that productive. Hagan as a ST WAS VERY PRODUCTIVE.
Next time Ndukwe or whatever botches a beautiful Shane pooch punt and let’s it go into the end zone, maybe you will understand than.
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EXACTLY what I have been trying to say. His stellar and stunning hits on special teams can’t be replaced. Not to mention the CONSTANT inside the 10 downs he constituted, the many fumble recoveries and the bone jarring hits!! Other than his stellar receving numbers, he could be in the hall of fame just with his special teams stats. He is SIMPLY the best gunner to ever play in the NFL. Our special teams are now DOOOMED.
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:34 pm
328.DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:30 pm
SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:23 pm
313.Blackmamba_20 Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:21 pm
307.DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:14 pm
Time to re-sign Bush is now. McFragile misses too many games every year.
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Its Mcfadden , name calling is reserved for smucks who deserve it
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I sir am a McFadden fan. But he is what he is….injury prone. Relax!
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Totally Relaxed bro, just my opinon .. Each to there own SIR
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:35 pm
TAIWAN JONES !!!!!!!
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:35 pm
DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:23 pm
Bush avg. 5.8 yards per on 17 carries last game. I’ll take that all day. Bush isnt a break away guy. He just breaks the spirit of the Def.
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He couldnt score on the 1. his attempt ot jump was awful. Then 4th down run was pathetic by him. i like Bush but I’m just saying his yardage might be good and he can make some runs but he is nothing near what mcfadden is to this team
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:35 pm
DMAC Post 332 – I’m sure anyone would, but of course we’re not relegated to picking and choosing. I just wish we can get a healthy 16 from the both of ‘em the same season just once. Would be nice.
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:35 pm
I think we need to keep both. Bush get his 100 yards when McFadden is hurt. Plus he beats up the D in the 2nd half.
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:36 pm
[...] Houshmandzadeh makes Raiders debut; Hagan not here Wide receiver T.J. Houshmandzadeh is at practice, as expected, rocking No. 84 and apparently taking the place of fellow veteran Derek Hagan. Houshmandzadeh is among the six wide receivers on the practice field, and Hagan is not among them for the fir… [...]
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:36 pm
I can see if TJ was brought here to start and be the lead WR, but he’s gonna be a slot WR, nothing more, something he is actually GREAT at, in case everyone forgot. And with the comments, youd think we cut D. Moore for him. I like Hagan, but lets get real, he has never been better than TJ a single season of his life. Sometimes I wonder if people actually WATCH football. And we signed him cheap. So lets see, before we had a handful of WRs, talented, but none really taking over the slot position. We signed one of the best in the game at it. We now have depth at deep threats, AND the vet WR that we need. We improved with this signing, and itll show up on the field. You dont average 100 catches over a three year span like TJ if you cant play. I’ll gladly take Palmer having options of throwing to DHB, Moore/Ford, TJ, DMAC, or Boss on ANY GIVEN PLAY. Sounds good to me.
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:37 pm
Coach Jackson says Chris Johnson making progress. No mention of Johnson going on injured reserve.
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:37 pm
They complment each other well, this week taiwan and bush need to do that.. i said yesterday i dont want to see 25 – 30 carries for bush.. Mix it to the rookie..
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:37 pm
Let’s all be honest though.
Keep it real.
Cut Hagan and then keep 4 TE’s!?
Something ain’t right.
Just saying though.
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:38 pm
John David Booty Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:36 pm
I can see if TJ was brought here to start and be the lead WR, but he’s gonna be a slot WR, nothing more, something he is actually GREAT at, in case everyone forgot. And with the comments, youd think we cut D. Moore for him. I like Hagan, but lets get real, he has never been better than TJ a single season of his life. Sometimes I wonder if people actually WATCH football. And we signed him cheap. So lets see, before we had a handful of WRs, talented, but none really taking over the slot position. We signed one of the best in the game at it. We now have depth at deep threats, AND the vet WR that we need. We improved with this signing, and itll show up on the field. You dont average 100 catches over a three year span like TJ if you cant play. I’ll gladly take Palmer having options of throwing to DHB, Moore/Ford, TJ, DMAC, or Boss on ANY GIVEN PLAY. Sounds good to me.
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How can you say that? Hagan is bound for the hall of fame!! I think it’s you that doesn’t watch the games.
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:39 pm
Hey dipshat, Hagan has always been a ST contributor.
Led the Giants in ST tackles one year when he was there, and has been one of our best this year, and one of the best at downing punts in years.
Let’s mock production, while healthy inactives stick around still.
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:39 pm
Source: Raiders to name former Bengal coach Sam Wyche to asst. Muckraker position. Will work under Chief Muckraker, John Hererra.—Adam Schefter espn.com
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:39 pm
RinP
No doubt McFadden is the man. Bush doesnt hold a candle to a healthy McFadden. I just think we need to keep him as a change of pace RB and when DMac is hurt.
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:39 pm
DMAC could use some Marcus Allen motivational benching. Stop menacing the team with your selfishness son!
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:40 pm
Ausberry would’ve cleared waivers and been stashed on practice sqauad.
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:41 pm
Chris in NY Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:40 pm
Ausberry would’ve cleared waivers and been stashed on practice sqauad.
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Exactly.
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:41 pm
Dude has played like 3 snaps all season.
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:42 pm
343.DMAC Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:37 pm
Let’s all be honest though.
Keep it real.
Cut Hagan and then keep 4 TE’s!?
Something ain’t right.
Just saying though.
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Cut Meyers and go with 7 WRs?!?!!?
7 WRs …
4 TEs …
Both something we never do.
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:43 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:39 pm
Hey dipshat, Hagan has always been a ST contributor.
Led the Giants in ST tackles one year when he was there, and has been one of our best this year, and one of the best at downing punts in years.
Let’s mock production, while healthy inactives stick around still.
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Oh I completely agree with you. Especially with your “pulled out of your arse” stats pertaining to your so called bs “led the Giants in ST tackles one year”… And the fact that he is no longer a Giant, nor a Dolphin given the fact that he supposedly, based on what you pulled out of your arse “led the Giants in ST tackles one year” makes ZERO sense as to why the Giants, Dolphins, and now the Raiders have released him. I agree with you wholeheartedly, our ST are now going to suck.
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:43 pm
Cut Meyers and go with 7 WRs?!?!!?
Please cut meyers !!!
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:44 pm
I liked Hagen but this isn’t a huge move either way.
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:44 pm
A ST gunner is SIMPLY the most important position on a football team!! The loss of Hagan can’t be replaced.
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:45 pm
It’s funny watching other Raider fans start to panic as the team looks less and less like the one Al Davis put together.
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:45 pm
JLofty Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:44 pm
I liked Hagen but this isn’t a huge move either way.
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What are you talking about? Hagan “led the Giants in ST tackles one year” how are we going to replace that? This is a HUGE move and a HUGE loss.
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:46 pm
Best case scenario here was what for Hagan?
I mean, with all the other WRs healthy, he would have been inactive most weeks.
It’s had plenty of time to sink in, but you guys are still against giving our new QB ONE player on offense he is familiar with?
Murphy and Ford were draft picks. Should we have really cut one of those guys instead?
Cut another position player and keep Hagan inactive?
Just don’t get the backlash.
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:47 pm
It is what it is.
Time to move on.
Lito, AC, CP, Ndooky, Housh are all on board.
Go Raiders!
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:48 pm
J Hill Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:46 pm
Best case scenario here was what for Hagan?
I mean, with all the other WRs healthy, he would have been inactive most weeks.
It’s had plenty of time to sink in, but you guys are still against giving our new QB ONE player on offense he is familiar with?
Murphy and Ford were draft picks. Should we have really cut one of those guys instead?
Cut another position player and keep Hagan inactive?
Just don’t get the backlash.
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Thats because you aren’t a “true” Raiders fan. Cutting a player that “led the Giants in ST tackles one year” is simply ludicrous.
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:49 pm
What’s going to happen in here when they replace the guy that fetches the kick off tee with the kick off tee fetcher from cincy?
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:49 pm
If the Raiders hadn’t given the game away to the squaws nobody would be questioning this move.Since we did,HJ is being questioned.After we win the next 2 games this will all be forgotten.
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:50 pm
DMAC Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:41 pm
Chris in NY Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:40 pm
Ausberry would’ve cleared waivers and been stashed on practice sqauad.
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Exactly.
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What! Dude, we need him for those TE reverses we run so well.
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:50 pm
John Jarndyce Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:50 pm
DMAC Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:41 pm
Chris in NY Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:40 pm
Ausberry would’ve cleared waivers and been stashed on practice sqauad.
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Exactly.
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What! Dude, we need him for those TE reverses we run so well.
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Yeah
Almost took that one to the house!
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:51 pm
A ST gunner is SIMPLY the most important position on a football team!! The loss of Hagan can’t be replaced.
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What a moron.
Can’t debate the topic, so you just insert words in people’s mouths??
Who said he can’t be replaced? Who said gunner was the most important part of the team?
Nobody, so WTF are you talking about?
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:51 pm
Also, consider that it may be possible that Hue spoke with Hagan and decided it would be better to give him an opp elsewhere, knowing he wasnt gonna get much time here. And Hagan couldve very well agreed. Why cut Ausberry? Hes viewed as a piece of the FUTURE, potentially, to Hue. Hagan wasnt, he was simply depth. I hope he gets a shot elsewhere, but Im not gonna act like the sky is falling over a back up.
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:51 pm
What’s going to happen in here when they replace the guy that fetches the kick off tee with the kick off tee fetcher from cincy?
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Complete mayhem!
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:52 pm
BREAKING NEWS!
Oakland head coach Hue Jackson came home monday night and caught his backup wideout Derek Hagan dry docking his wife.
The next day Hagan was released from the Raiders.
To further excentuate his anger Coach Jackson replaced him immedietley with washed up former Bengal TJ Houshmanzedah.
In response to the “incident” Hue’s wife said He is never around and she needed some lovin.
Do your dry docking at a hotel Mrs. Jackson! We need Hue focused for Teblow.
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:52 pm
Best case scenario here was what for Hagan?
I mean, with all the other WRs healthy, he would have been inactive most weeks.
It’s had plenty of time to sink in, but you guys are still against giving our new QB ONE player on offense he is familiar with?
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This. I like Hagan. I still think he’s a better player than Murphy, and could be more productive than Chaz. But the Raiders wanted to add a receiver Palmer had some experience with, and someone had to go. Hagan hasn’t been around the team as long as the other guys, and if you don’t want to mess with team morale and chemistry then you have to take that into consideration. Housh can easily do everything Hagan did for the offense. And if it makes Palmer’s transition smother, then the move was worthwhile.
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:52 pm
Man, these trolls are taking everybody for a ride. I can’t believe it.
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:53 pm
Especially with your “pulled out of your arse” stats pertaining to your so called bs “led the Giants in ST tackles one year”…
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LOL!
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:54 pm
359.J Hill Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:46 pm
Best case scenario here was what for Hagan?
I mean, with all the other WRs healthy, he would have been inactive most weeks.
It’s had plenty of time to sink in, but you guys are still against giving our new QB ONE player on offense he is familiar with?
Murphy and Ford were draft picks. Should we have really cut one of those guys instead?
Cut another position player and keep Hagan inactive?
Just don’t get the backlash.
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Exactly, i was never for cutting murph a draft pick who loves the raiders and has produced over his first 2 years..
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:55 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:51 pm
A ST gunner is SIMPLY the most important position on a football team!! The loss of Hagan can’t be replaced.
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What a moron.
Can’t debate the topic, so you just insert words in people’s mouths??
Who said he can’t be replaced? Who said gunner was the most important part of the team?
Nobody, so WTF are you talking about?
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Dude, like you said, the fact that Hagan “led the Giants in ST tackles one year” says it all.
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:55 pm
We should of just traded Hagan to Bilicheat and the Pats for a 6-7 rounder.
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:56 pm
Can we ditch the Jumbo package for the Lightning package?
7 WRs Baby!!
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:57 pm
Method’s meltdown earlier was priceless. The dud was about to jump off the Bay Bridge because Hagan was released. That guy needs to get a grip. I think he may have Borderline Personality Disorder.
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:57 pm
Hagan hasn’t been inactive since week 1, so not sure where the “cut another position player, and keep Hagan inactive” comes from.
Plays on all special teams.
We got guys like Bruce Campbell who are just as far down the depth chart as Hagan (who has two starts this year), who never play anything, and who are inactive all the time.
Should have cut him or Giordano, IMO, and I am rolling with Uncle Al on this one.
Still, not a major move. Not overly upset about it, just think Hagan brings more to the table than some of the other guys at the bottom of our roster.
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:57 pm
i just dont see any upside to having tj play over any of the other young recievers….
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:58 pm
Good luck Hagan. Seemed like a good guy, and was productive when given some targets. Hope he catches on somewhere not in the AFC West.
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:58 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:57 pm
Still, not a major move. Not overly upset about it, just think Hagan brings more to the table than some of the other guys at the bottom of our roster.
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You are so right. Especially, like you previously stated, since he “led the Giants in ST tackles one year”.
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:59 pm
Seemed like we could’ve cut one of our TEs who aren’t doing anything, or something similar.
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:00 pm
raiderzmaverick Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:58 pm
Good luck Hagan. Seemed like a good guy, and was productive when given some targets. Hope he catches on somewhere not in the AFC West.
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Dude, he is hall of fame bound as a wr if not as a special teams players, especially since he “led the Giants in ST tackles one year”. He is probably out on another teams practice field right now. On Special Teams nonetheless.
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:01 pm
I think that Murphy will be a great replacement for Hagan at gunner. Think about it. With the way he fears contact, he will be the fastest player on the roster at getting out of bounds and avoiding the double team blocks.
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:01 pm
368.J Hill Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:51 pm
What’s going to happen in here when they replace the guy that fetches the kick off tee with the kick off tee fetcher from cincy?
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Complete mayhem!
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And to think our guys runs a 4.3 and Cincy’s guy is a 4.5,4.6. Ridiculous!
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:03 pm
Fact of the matter is..
Our most impressive wins are against an off jets team and a close win against the texans without Mario Henderson and Andre Johnson.
We blew a huge lead against the bills, couldn’t compete with the pats and just got blown out by a division rival at home because Hue didn’t have a proper game plan ready to compensate for our QB situation.
Are there positives and excuses to make for all of the games so far? Absolutely, but this team, including Hue needs to recognize that they are not playing fundamentally sound football and get back to what we had going last year which had our offense rolling. I was rooting for Hagan earlier in the season but he wasn’t involved in many plays for reasons I’m sure Hue knows better than me so its time to see if Housh can produce and if not, complain about it here later.
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:03 pm
Damn!
Hagan was our Chuck Mercein!
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:03 pm
Wow, this is still going on?
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:05 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:57 pm
Hagan hasn’t been inactive since week 1, so not sure where the “cut another position player, and keep Hagan inactive” comes from.
Plays on all special teams.
We got guys like Bruce Campbell who are just as far down the depth chart as Hagan (who has two starts this year), who never play anything, and who are inactive all the time.
Should have cut him or Giordano, IMO, and I am rolling with Uncle Al on this one.
Still, not a major move. Not overly upset about it, just think Hagan brings more to the table than some of the other guys at the bottom of our roster.
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Cut Bruce Campbell to keep Hagan? Im trying to imagine which active NFL GM would actually do that.
Besides, Campbells nowhere near as buried on the depth chart as Hagan was. Campbells just been hurt. That aside, hes no less than our 3rd RG or RT. With way more potential of producing at his position for us than Hagan had.
This isnt the first team that was deep at WR that Hagans been cut from, might not be the last.
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:07 pm
I wouldn’t exactly call the ‘fins deep at WR.Nor the Giants and he couldn’t stick at either place.Not a great loss.
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:08 pm
VittorioTafur Vittorio Tafur
Why does everyone rip Tebow? Louis Murphy: “I don’t know. 1 day he’s the savior, 1 day he’s the sh*ts. It’s about how (media) projects it.”
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Murphy is now the sh*ts too.
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:08 pm
Hue said yesterday KHTK that TJ is to be a mentor.
10 year guy, played at a high level. Seen every kind of coverage. May see action Sunday.
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:08 pm
JFB – Should have cut him or Giordano, IMO
I concur
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:09 pm
Zymurge Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:01 pm
I think that Murphy will be a great replacement for Hagan at gunner. Think about it. With the way he fears contact, he will be the fastest player on the roster at getting out of bounds and avoiding the double team blocks.
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True, but no good if he doesn’t make the tackle.
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:09 pm
Campbell has been inactive the last 2 weeks, and is not listed on any injury report, including the post above.
Hagan has 2 starts and played in 6 games. Campbell has zero starts, and has played in four games.
Our 3rd RG?? LMAO……that’s about as bottom of the barrel it gets on NFL rosters, especially when said 3rd RG is a HEALTHY INACTIVE.
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:10 pm
Fact of the matter is..
Our most impressive wins are against an off jets team and a close win against the texans without Mario Henderson and Andre Johnson.
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Totally valid. But bear in mind that these “impressive” wins were with a very unimpressive QB that played to not lose. Remember JC’s supposed throwaway right into the hands of a surprised DB in the end zone to take points off the board? Remember Hue calling 4 straight running plays for Bush at the goal line because he had zero confidence in his QBs ability to not turnover the ball in the red zone?
All this changes with CP3. His arrival means a less predictable offense, which in turn means longer drives and more time of possession. That takes a lot of pressure off the defense allowing them to play more aggressively. Adding a legit starting QB is an absolute game changer. You’re going to see a different Raiders team from here on out.
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:10 pm
I look at it this way Hagan wasnt playing at least TJ will be on the field. I would have cut Schilens in a new york minute before Hagan and same for gator arms Murphy.
On to the next one…qu!t b!tch!n
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:11 pm
388.LA to TheBay Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:03 pm
Wow, this is still going on?
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Pretty sure Hue wouldn’t have made this move if he realized the impact to the Hagan jersey sales.
Was that really B in here melting down earlier?
I think that was the imposter Method.
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:11 pm
TJ is on the doggone street. Career was over until Hue brought the band back together. What’s he got left? I guess we get the priviledge to find out.
All Hagan has done was make catches to move the chains in the LIMITED time given to him. Hue never liked the dude from jump, but here’s a kid that is young, knows the system and was competent in practice and games.
Another old azz player using the raiders for a last payday
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:12 pm
Why should we cut Giordano?The makes plays.He isn’t all world but he isn’t all garbage either.
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:13 pm
Hoepfully both TJ’S come out making plays
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:13 pm
I’m out w/ this one!
REPOST
It is what it is.
Time to move on.
Lito, AC, CP, Ndooky, Housh are all on board.
Go Raiders!
CODE CONDO SUCKAS!!!
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:14 pm
Darn, a proven, productive veteran? That has worked within a similar system and had his best years playing for our current head coach and current starting QB?
Man, pass the Kleenex, guys.
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:15 pm
400.lefty12 Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:12 pm
Why should we cut Giordano?The makes plays.He isn’t all world but he isn’t all garbage either.
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Ill admit its all personal, He reminds me of bruce Grads, and the way he whiffed on Fred jackson was pathetic.. but your right hes not all bad. !!
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:15 pm
Campbell has been inactive the last 2 weeks, and is not listed on any injury report, including the post above.
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Really, dude????
Maybe if we had signed an OLman, you might have a point.
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:17 pm
CODE DMAC!!!!!
Hook a defibrillator to his foot already…
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:18 pm
Really, dude????
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What good is a healthy inactive?
The gameday inactives should be “nicked”.
If you can go, and coach tells you to keep the pads in the locker, than a pink slip should be right behind it.
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:19 pm
I’ve decided to name my firstborn son “Hagan”
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:21 pm
All I’m saying, is if Al could have found a way to keep Sam Williams, a bottom of the barrel LB but ST ace, around for 7 years, you think we could have got more than 7 weeks out of ST ace Derek Hagan.
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:22 pm
What good is a healthy inactive?
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Not even up for debate.
If Wylie thought he needed a replacement, we’d be working out OTs.
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:22 pm
Hagan got replaced by a better player, period.
What galaxy was Hagan ever better than TJ on?
Even last year, TJs least productive, STILL woulda been Hagans CAREER BEST season. Hagans not a better route runner, doesnt have better hands, HAS NEVER CAUGHT 112 balls in a season. Lets not forget, TJ is a 7th rounder. He worked his way up. He wasnt schollied into any position. He got on the field and WORKED into one of the leagues most productive WRs.
Housh is gonna do some good things for this team.
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:23 pm
Snb. .. that’s what ticks me off.. Raiders were interested in housh. .. a few yrs ago. .. he wanted no part of us.. no secret, al davis wanted Chad ochocinco… a few months ago… and decided to go be a Patsy. .. next season .. I don’t care to see any of those has beens in silver n black.. housh is here now.. that’s fine… but I don’t want senior citizens here for 2012..
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:24 pm
ST ace Derek Hagan.
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Ace?????
You were concerned about Eugene going down, and he was easily replaced.
Chekwa will make you forget all about Hagan on STs.
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:25 pm
Jim Otto has healthier legs than Darren. He should rock Al’s walker on the PUP and get outta Taiwegian Jones’ way.
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:25 pm
Don’t matter. I don’t think Hagan was given a fair shot. Don’t think he’s an all-pro receiver or anything.
I’m supprised that our other WRs are catching so few actually. We’ll see soon if it’s the WRs or the QB. If they keep catching almost nothing you’ll know the answer.
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:26 pm
Housh better not be asking for more balls thrown his way to pad his stats in hopes a new contract next year. Hagan didn’t seem like that type of player
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:26 pm
If Wylie thought he needed a replacement, we’d be working out OTs.
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Replace what?
A guy in sweats on Sundays?
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:26 pm
Hue Jackson will look like a genius or like a fool, after sundays game, with all these ex bengal players now in raider gear.
If raiders loose for second week at home, against a divison rival, Hue might start to be on a hot seat, at least GM wise. His moves as a GM, only the Curry one stands out.
Mark Davis better start eyeing some GM candidates, Hue is being blasted in the media.
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:26 pm
All Hagan has done was make catches to move the chains in the LIMITED time given to him.
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Hagan had more drops than catches the past 3 weeks or so.
Relax.
TJ will come off the street and get at least the ONE DAMN CATCH Hagan had the last 3 weeks.
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:27 pm
Period!
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:27 pm
All it takes is one Special Teams player not in place to turn a runback into a touchdown. It’s important and I’m sure Housh isn’t going to play Special Teams.
But, I think Hue will figure out a way to get him involved so as someone said above…better to have a person who’s put into the game plan than Hagan just sitting there doing nothing (unless it does hurt the Special Teams).
Davis wanted him (Hagan) for a reason maybe? He definitely wasn’t the fastest…
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:27 pm
How good is tj? Really? Chemistry with carson? Damn , build it with the guys already here.
Hagan was a hustle and hard work guy, should always have a guy like that on roster. Is cutting him a big deal, nope. But I liked Hagan’s potential over housh.
I am always wary of veterans off the street with no team taking a look. What’s he have left?
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:28 pm
Not to worry…won’t effect the offensive production one way or the other much…
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:28 pm
If he needed a replacement “in sweats” guy.
Campbell is doing a good enough job, no need to bring in someone else.
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:29 pm
Is cutting him a big deal, nope.
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You sure?
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:29 pm
Campbell is doing a good enough job, no need to bring in someone else.
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Yes, real bang-up job he is doing.
I think he is further down the depth chart than last year.
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:30 pm
Almost every starting RB in the league misses some playing time… Very few make it 16 games….Bush will run allover the Donks…McFadden will be back for The Chokers…
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:30 pm
No Diva antics or hes done… Surely at 34 or relaise this is his last shot..
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:31 pm
Another thing, these ex Bengal players, its not like they won important games, division titles a few years a go. They were a little above average, but not great.
What is Hue doing here? He may not last this season if this continues…
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:32 pm
JFB,
What are you worried about?
Hue is cutting all the Al Davis projects.
Haven’t you heard?
Campbell will be outta here as soon as the Chiefs cut Gaither.
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:34 pm
Housh is here let’s give him the benefit of the doubt
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:34 pm
I do not expect DMAC back.
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:34 pm
Housh better not be asking for more balls thrown his way to pad his stats in hopes a new contract next year. …
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Well, if he’s getting open and catching the balls, how is it bad thing that he asks for and gets more? Unless he’s catching them behind the LOS, if he’s doing what the other WRs aren’t consistently how is this bad for the Raiders?
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:35 pm
About this Denver game, if all of you think Bush will win this game, you are on the koolaid. Denver has a good defense, just remember last game when we barely beat them, and that was with JC @ QB, and McFadden…
This game, it looks very close… field goal afair, maybe decided by turnovers.
Denver were probably looking ahead to this game while playing Detroit. Its raider week.
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:36 pm
429.JT Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:31 pm
Another thing, these ex Bengal players, its not like they won important games, division titles a few years a go. They were a little above average, but not great.
What is Hue doing here? He may not last this season if this continues…
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All those Super Bowl MVP’s Al sign never paid off either.
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:36 pm
Denver 20
Raiders 17
Raiders loose this one while still under the charmed idea that they are bullys.
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:36 pm
VittorioTafur Vittorio Tafur
Housh on other Raiders WRs: “They’re all fast. But they don’t really have a guy who can work the middle of the field and can run routes.”
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November 2nd, 2011 at 2:37 pm
JFB,
What are you worried about?
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Not valuing ST’s enough, and not having 48 guys contributing on Sundays.
That’s it. Not like B and about to start knuckling up with guys over it, lol.
Just think we could have trimmed some other fat than Hagan, but certainly Hagan was in the mix to be cut.
I would have just went another route, and I think Al Davis would have as well.
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:37 pm
Dang it, this team needs to get healthy for a shot at this division.
All I keep hearing is about is resting guys for this game so we can have them for a more important game.
That is BS. These “easy” games are where chemistry and rhythm are built so the team is clicking when the “tougher” games come around.
Plugging guys in different spots each week is not a recipe for success.
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:38 pm
JT Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:35 pm
About this Denver game, if all of you think Bush will win this game, you are on the koolaid. Denver has a good defense, just remember last game when we barely beat them, and that was with JC @ QB, and McFadden…
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Denver was a much better team then when Orton was QB. Plus, it was a Monday night opener with a division rival. That game really wasn’t that close, anyways. Orton made a late comeback.
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:38 pm
How good is tj? Really? Chemistry with carson? Damn , build it with the guys already here.
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It takes time and lots of practice reps to build that chemistry. CP3 doesn’t have the luxury of training camp, preseason, or the first 6 weeks of the regular season to establish that. But he already has it with TJ, so that;s a huge benefit!
My prediction is that TJ is almost immediately effective and is CP’s favorite dump off target. Over the course of the next several games, you’ll see him use him less and less as he gains chemistry with a few other WRs.
I see Housh’s signing as a bridge towards the future between CP3 and DHB/Ford/Moore/Boss.
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:39 pm
John Jarndyce Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:36 pm
VittorioTafur Vittorio Tafur
Housh on other Raiders WRs: “They’re all fast. But they don’t really have a guy who can work the middle of the field and can run routes.”
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Glad to see he’s making friends and fitting in.
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:40 pm
fu#kin housh already opening his stupid mouth unbefu#kinlievable. what an idiot! yes it was a horrible move and it only took a day to realize it
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:40 pm
VittorioTafur Vittorio Tafur
Palmer on Housh: “He has chip on his shoulder, he doesn’t ever want 2 be covered, doesn’t ever want 2 drop ball, he doesn’t ever want 2 lose
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:41 pm
VittorioTafur Vittorio Tafur
Housh, 34: “People look at age … look at the body and the injuries. I haven’t played a lot in my career. I sat on bench for three years.”
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VittorioTafur Vittorio Tafur
@ @SharonCho looking at interview again, Palmer said no, no receivers showed up Monday night to watch the game
3 minutes ago
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:41 pm
VittorioTafur Vittorio Tafur
More Palmer on Houshmandzadeh: “For him to know the playbook first day out, getting here late yesterday, shows a lot about his knowledge.”
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:42 pm
“They’re all fast. But they don’t really have a guy who can work the middle of the field and can run routes.”
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Did he really say that?
*Sigh*
While I can understand maybe the middle of the field part of it, but “who can run routes”?
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:42 pm
Housh on other Raiders WRs: “They’re all fast. But they don’t really have a guy who can work the middle of the field and can run routes.”
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hue should cut him now and resign hagan while he can. would any other current raider say something this stupid? No fu#kin way
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:43 pm
Palmer said no, no receivers showed up Monday night to watch the game
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Murphy and DHB were at Ruth-Chris, taking pics and tweeting like some high schoolers.
Well done guys.
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:44 pm
Just a note on this “win now” theme. If the last 8 years taught me anything, its the importance of building a team that can last for a while.
Quite frankly, putting in “time” to develop DHB has paid off to my surprise. I think a similiar investment in Moore, Ford and the rest will make this team tough for yrs to come.
If Hue really sees this as a super bowl team, then fine, but if we are bustin up the place just to get a wildcard THIS YEAR at the expense of next year and beyond, I would really have to question that.
Lotta young talent Al scrapped together, hate to see it delayed or put on the shelf.
Signing TJ suggests something to me I am not comfortable with.
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:45 pm
I think the Raiders singed Housh because none of the other guys showed up at Palmer’s house for the game, except for Hagan. He got the ax for puking on Palmer’s couch.
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:46 pm
how is it bad thing that he asks for and gets more
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you become a polarizing figure and your teammates no longer want to go to battle with you. Why do you think Palmer wanted out of Cincy? Ask TO how it’s worked out for him
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:47 pm
Murphy and DHB were at Ruth-Chris, taking pics and tweeting like some high schoolers.
Well done guys.
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no schit what are these guys thinking?
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:48 pm
Bo has scheduled Darren McFadden’s 2012 Offseason workout regimine at his makeshift USMC basic training grounds in his back yard in Chicagoland.
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:48 pm
Housh on other Raiders WRs: “They’re all fast. But they don’t really have a guy who can work the middle of the field and can run routes.”
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LOL. Nice way to get the lockeroom on your side!
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:48 pm
Dammit! JAX took Robiskie : /
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:50 pm
I could see blowing off the MNF game with your QB, if it was like Saints-Falcons or something.
But it was Chiefs-Chargers!!!
They should be drinking brews and chopping up ways to exploit things they saw, against teams they will be playing soon!!
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:51 pm
CorkOnTheNFL Coach Jackson on Tim Tebow: “I hope he doesn’t get it right this week. I hope he continues to do what he’s being doing, keep it that way.”
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Now you did it Hue. May as well kick a puppy in front of the cameras.. Those Tebow worshipers will not be pleased with you…
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:53 pm
Seems like it has been a three ring circus around here since Al died. Man I hope the
Raiders are ready to play on Sunday.
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:53 pm
Since we dont have a 1st round draft pick next year, what do you think if the raiders tank this season, trading McFadden for a 1st and 2nd, while he is still valuable?…
To many injuries to be considered a elite RB.
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:53 pm
Inonewordraider Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:42 pm
Housh on other Raiders WRs: “They’re all fast. But they don’t really have a guy who can work the middle of the field and can run routes.”
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hue should cut him now and resign hagan while he can. would any other current raider say something this stupid? No fu#kin way
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This was the risk they got when they signed this guy…ran his mouth just like this in Seatlle…and now the other players are like ; “What’s wrong with the receivers we have now?” “Did I do something?”
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:54 pm
MistaBrown Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:10 pm
I look at it this way
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No one gives a rats ass what you think. Just a FYI.
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:55 pm
trading McFadden for a 1st and 2nd, while he is still valuable?…
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RB’s are not valued high enough for a 1st and 2nd.
We MAY be able to squeeze out a 1st for Darren, but certainly not if he only bangs out 12 or 13 games again this year.
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:55 pm
Maybe the other Wr’s have kids they needed to take trick or treating? I hope there is some reason that they didn’t take up CP on his offer. This doesn’t bode well.
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:55 pm
DMAC Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:55 pm
We should of just traded Hagan to Bilicheat and the Pats for a 6-7 rounder.
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Nobody would give us even a 7th for this pos.
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:56 pm
CorkOnTheNFL Houshmandzadeh on Palmer: “People on TV, they’re like, ‘Oh, he doesn’t have the arm strength.’ They don’t know what they’re talking about.”
27 minutes ago
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:56 pm
Let’s hope TJ is not another Randy Moss! That bas#$d came here, took the money and didn’t try at all! Then went to NE and had how many touchdowns the next year?
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:56 pm
uggghh. this don’t sound good.
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:58 pm
TheToozFan55 Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:56 pm
Let’s hope TJ is not another Randy Moss! That bas#$d came here, took the money and didn’t try at all! Then went to NE and had how many touchdowns the next year?
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nah tj aint capable of doing what Moss did in NE, but what an idiot for talking.
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:59 pm
our offense is going to change for the wrong reason with palmer and housh …….hue is going to have to found a way to prove everyone he’s right and everyone else is wrong. so we are going to pass more dmc less and change the bully…to a pass first team will it help only time will tell
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:00 pm
DMAC, what is your MAJOR MALFUNCTION?
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:00 pm
The Raiders gave the Donks 6 first downs last time due to penalties …. In all 15 penalties… That first game shouldn’t have been as close as the score was… The Raiders should roll the Donks this time…the Donks are horrible… And so is Tebow…
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:00 pm
Uh, I think TJ is correct about the Raider receivers, they don’t run great routes.
Hopefully he can help with that, they are young and will continue to improve, or be
gone.
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:00 pm
# Just Fire Baby Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:55 pm
trading McFadden for a 1st and 2nd, while he is still valuable?…
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RB’s are not valued high enough for a 1st and 2nd.
We MAY be able to squeeze out a 1st for Darren, but certainly not if he only bangs out 12 or 13 games again this year.
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I would trade him for a 1st…
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:00 pm
Housh on other Raiders WRs: “They’re all fast. But they don’t really have a guy who can work the middle of the field and can run routes.”
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CorkOnTheNFL Coach Jackson on Tim Tebow: “I hope he doesn’t get it right this week. I hope he continues to do what he’s being doing, keep it that way.”
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Hue and TJ need to stfu already
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:01 pm
# charles2521 Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:59 pm
our offense is going to change for the wrong reason with palmer and housh …….hue is going to have to found a way to prove everyone he’s right and everyone else is wrong. so we are going to pass more dmc less and change the bully…to a pass first team will it help only time will tell
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exactly…. more passing oriented offense.
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:03 pm
Like somebody said earlier, we have to get away from the drama and back to smash-mouth football. And winning games. I’m keeping my fingers crossed but i think the coaching staff may be taking the Broncos too lightly. And I’m not 100% sure that John Fox won’t change his mind and play Orton. Have a sinking feeling.
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:04 pm
Wednesday must be complain about anything and everything…. Hey, the Raiders are contenders… Think positive…
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:04 pm
We already conceded one game already with KC, we cannot afford to give Denver away so McFadden can rest.
A loss is a loss whether it’s Denver or Green Bay; in fact even worse if it’s Denver cuz it’s a divisional matchup with wide ramifications.
If McFadden is ready..or close…i say start him.
I don’t like this taking Denver so lightly stuff. Next thing you know Carson is throwing 3 ints. and Denver is stacking the line to stop Bush and we can’t score. And Tebow does just enuff…
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:05 pm
# djohnnyg Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:04 pm
We already conceded one game already with KC, we cannot afford to give Denver away so McFadden can rest.
A loss is a loss whether it’s Denver or Green Bay; in fact even worse if it’s Denver cuz it’s a divisional matchup with wide ramifications.
If McFadden is ready..or close…i say start him.
I don’t like this taking Denver so lightly stuff. Next thing you know Carson is throwing 3 ints. and Denver is stacking the line to stop Bush and we can’t score. And Tebow does just enuff…
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precisely
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:06 pm
# TheToozFan55 Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:03 pm
Like somebody said earlier, we have to get away from the drama and back to smash-mouth football. And winning games. I’m keeping my fingers crossed but i think the coaching staff may be taking the Broncos too lightly. And I’m not 100% sure that John Fox won’t change his mind and play Orton. Have a sinking feeling.
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Rule #1: Never take a division opponent too lightly!
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:09 pm
I would have preferred retaining Hagan, but the Housh move is really nothing to get worked up over.
Glad that CJ hasn’t been IR’d. I’m probably in the minority here, but I like CJ and think he can be a valuable contributor down the stretch, if he can get healthy.
Hoping the signing/waiving action doesn’t distract from preparation for the mules. Seems to be an atmosphere of clamoring about roster moves and taking a win for granted, based on the Mules and Tebow’s weak showing. This is the NFL and if the Rams can whup the Saints then you’d best believe the Mules can beat the Raids.
Opening total for this game was 45. Smart money quickly hammered that down to 42.5. Raids favored by 8, might go to 9. So books are calling for something like a 26-17 Raider win.
This figures to be perhaps the easiest win of the year, but it’s certainly not a gimme – especially if DMAC doesn’t go.
Raids better not fail here. Fall back to .500 and 0-2 in the division spells deep trouble.
No complacency. Get the job done.
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:09 pm
If McFadden isn’t 100% then rest him…. Would you rather beat Denver twice or Lose to the Chokers twice…Denvers not contending this year… Besides if the Raiders can’t beat Denver without McFadden then this team isn’t a contender…
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:09 pm
Turkey Jizz needs to stfu this guy is no one to talk, this guy goes in the middle only to get layed out left twitching on the ground. Schillens boss gordon ausberry our big decent targets in the middle .
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:11 pm
Yeah, does seem a bit that way….
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:13 pm
DMAC was standing on the sidelines WITH PADS ON the whole frickin Queef game. Now he has a boot with crutches? This the twilight zone? We are not good enough to sit our best players because we can “afford” to. There are no easy wins…ask the Saints…
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:24 pm
McFadden started the Chefs game… Cameout after 2 carrys… If he’s hurt then he’s Hurt….
I’d rather have McFadden 100 % for the Chokers than an injured McFadden aginst the Donks…. Why risk losing him for the playoff push….this team has to be able to play without its star players sometimes…if the Raiders can’t beat the donks without McFadden then they won’t make the playoffs..
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:25 pm
If mcfadden ain’t ready then he ain’t ready no reason for set backs the season is long and would rather have him healthy vs the chargers. Its diff this time if we don’t have dmac cause hu will learn from his mistake vs the quiefs and mix in jones more plus reece its back. And cp3 better play better than pedestrian.
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:33 pm
Cutting Hagan? F’ing retarded. Yeah keep two guys who have been injured their entire time with the Raiders. Now I get it… Hue is bi-polar! Or a huge Tard. At least Hagan won’t be unemployed for long. I hope an AFC West team signs him. Hue knows this is the NFL and not Yahoo fantasy football, right? Or does he? Still sticking to my 7-9 prediction.
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:39 pm
I dont know about you guys… but I’m going to booo doucheyourmomma on Sunday…
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:42 pm
JT Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:53 pm
Since we dont have a 1st round draft pick next year, what do you think if the raiders tank this season, trading McFadden for a 1st and 2nd, while he is still valuable?…
To many injuries to be considered a elite RB.
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Ehhh. No way. McFadden is our best playmaker and, when healthy, the best back in the league in my mind. He’s started every game so far this year even though he missed most of the last one.
Draft picks are overrated. Half of all first-rounders are busts. Odds are very slim of getting another McFadden-type playmaker in round 1 or 2. Can it happen, sure. But the odds are not in your favor.
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:42 pm
The Raiders cut hagan.. for this old piece of crap.. big mouth. . Bigger mistake will be the division between.. houshe.. Palmer and hue.. with the rest of the wrs
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:43 pm
The problem I have is, you don’t rest McFadden, if he’s at all close to ready with the thought you need him for the BIG game against SD. What if by saving him you lose to Denver? It’s gonna be tough enuff to beat SD “WITH” McFadden.
McFadden is arguably our best player. To say we don’t deserve the playoffs anyway if we can’t win w/o our best player is like saying Pitt. doesn’t deserve to go cuz they lost Big Ben, or the Pats don’t deserve it cuz they didn’t win a game without Brady.
It may be a stretch to compare losing DMAC with losing those guys but if DMAC is our best player…
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:49 pm
Guys saying “save DMAC for the playoff run” have to consider that if we lose to Denver and SD, there won’t be no playoff run.
November 2nd, 2011 at 4:37 pm
[...] sat out another practice on Wednesday, reported the Contra Costa Times, his fourth since he suffered the injury against the Kansas City Chiefs on Oct. 23. The Raiders [...]
November 2nd, 2011 at 5:43 pm
Waiving Hagan is a mistake. He’s proven he can make plays when given the chance. We seemed to be forcing the ball to DHB. Defenses will pick up on that and start jumping his routes. We need DMAC but if he needs another week,we should beat he donkeys with an overdose of bush and jones. We need to get Boss more involved in the offense with underneath routes.
Hue is banking a lot on his past connections and I hope it works. We can still make the playoffs but we got to start getting more consistent and stable with the line up. Murphy,Moore and Ford can make plays as well. Give them the opportunity
November 2nd, 2011 at 5:55 pm
Waiving Hagan is a mistake. He’s proven he can make plays when given the chance. We seemed to be forcing the ball to DHB. Defenses will pick up on that and start jumping his routes. We need DMAC but if he needs another week,we should beat he donkeys with an overdose of bush and t jones
November 3rd, 2011 at 2:57 am
MistaBrown Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:53 am
Keeping Chaz and dropping Hagan is a STUPID ass move! Chaz has been injured his entire life!
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I think the thinking was, Chaz has same size, more speed, more upside and the Raiders drafted him…I honestly think Hagan was a camp body, got hot, and was a better blocker than people thought. I agree – and i dont know if they werent ready to pull the plug on Louis Murphy. Chaz has scored in some clutch games (v Texans, last year in finale against Chiefs). I agree, Hagan got a raw deal, but its not like he’s Calvin Johnson. The problem is will Houshmanzadeh run his mouth, alienate some of the younger players? If he backs up his smack, great. There are guys that are just like that – maybe it will challenge the younger players to step there game up.
November 3rd, 2011 at 4:41 am
[...] sat out another practice on Wednesday, reported the Contra Costa Times, his fourth since he suffered the injury against the Kansas City Chiefs on Oct. 23. The Raiders [...]
November 3rd, 2011 at 9:29 am
keeping McFadden out for the Charger game next Thursday night.
November 3rd, 2011 at 7:47 pm
Hagan probably one of the most consistent possession receivers on this squad hope they are NOT cutting him. Ford has had the dropsies on 3rd down lately, Murphy has been afraid of the ball and Chaz is…Glaz.
Hopefully Housh is good on 3rd.
November 3rd, 2011 at 10:29 pm
Method, I don’t post much but you run ya mouth a lot. I have a feeling you are all talk. If not you can see me in Oakland in the parking lot on the 69th side of the stadium. Parking section n5. I’ll be there for sure and I’m always in I DON’T GIVE A F&%K MODE MY MAN.
November 3rd, 2011 at 10:32 pm
Method, I don’t post much but you run ya mouth a lot. I have a feeling you are all talk. If not you can see me in Oakland in the parking lot on the 69th side of the stadium. Parking section n5. I’ll be there for sure and I’m always in I DON’T GIVE A F&%K MODE MY MAN. And hagan is pedestrian. I liked him too but with j camps slow thought process he was the only receiver who he could complete a pass to. Our j camp is a dump truck who deserves to be a backup.
November 4th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
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Dedicated to the legacy of Al Davis
Protected by the rally squirrel and Coliseum rodents
First: Ghostraider (exact score)
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860Todd Christensen Raiders 38 Donks 9
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downsouthraider Raiders 31 Donkeys 10
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PlunkforHOF My beloved Oakland Raiders: 27
Horse-Faced Crybabys: 3
JT Denver 20 Raiders 17
r8dercain Raiders 28 Broncos 13
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February 25th, 2012 at 4:33 am
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