Jackson says Palmer had nothing to do with Houshmandzadeh signing
By Steve Corkran
Wednesday, November 2nd, 2011 at 2:59 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Coach Hue Jackson wants everyone to know that the Raiders are his team. He calls the plays on offense, he is responsible for the losses and, most of all, he is the one who decides whether a player is worth adding to the roster.
So it was that Jackson felt compelled to quash any rumblings about recently acquired quarterback Carson Palmer playing a role in the Raiders signing wide receiver T.J. Houshmandzadeh on Tuesday.
“None … ,” Jackson said, when asked what role Palmer played in the signing. “A lot of people have said – and I’ve heard all the reports; you walk around and look, and some of the coaches have their TVs on – ‘Oh, this is a Carson Palmer deal.’ Carson Palmer had nothing to do with this. I tried to get T.J. during training camp. People forget that I had a relationship with T.J. I coached him and I know exactly what he is. So, this wasn’t Carson’s idea, by no stretch.”
Jackson said he wanted Houshmandzadeh way back in August, when the Raiders were without the services of wide recievers Jacoby Ford and Louis Murphy due to injury.
Ultimately, the Raiders signed veteran Derek Hagan. Why? Well, Jackson didn’t have the autonomy at that point. That belonged to managing general partner Al Davis.
“At that time, Derek was there, we took Derek,” Jackson said. “I wanted T.J. Hey, like I told you, when coach makes a decision. He made it.”
Jackson said Davis wanted the emphasis placed on younger receivers. Houshmandzadeh, 34, didn’t fit the bill.
Now, Jackson feels as if the Raiders are in need of a proven receiver who can help spark the Raiders struggling passing attack.
“He has ability in the slot, but T.J. can really play everywhere,” Jackson said. “The player that I worked out yesterday still has some of the characteristics he had when I coached him. Obviously, he is a little older and a little more gray, but he knows how to play game. I am excited he’s here.”
Houshmandzadeh said he is excited to be reunited with Palmer and Jackson. Already, he is confident that he can fill a void in the Raiders offense.
“With the guys they have, they’re all fast,” Houshmandzadeh said, “but they don’t really have a guy who can work the middle of the field and can run routes. So I can bring that to the table. With those guys on the outside and the way Carson throws the ball and his ability to understand what a defense is trying to do, we can be really good if we put this thing together real fast.”
Houshmandzadeh hasn’t played in a game of any kind since Jan. 15, when he dropped a fourth-down pass in a game in which his Baltimore Ravens were eliminated from the AFC Playoffs.
That drop still bothers Houshmandzadeh, he said. As a result, he can’t wait to get back on the field and play in a game. Jackson said he expects Houshmandzadeh to play Sunday against the Denver Broncos.
“It doesn’t haunt me, it bothers me,” Houshmandzadeh said. “Because I don’t drop the ball. But I dropped that ball and I’m not ashamed to say I dropped it.”
Palmer raved about the qualities and intangibles Houshmandzadeh brings to the Raiders.
“T.J.’s always been a tremendous competitor,” Palmer said. “He has a chip on his shoulder. He doesn’t ever want to be covered, doesn’t ever want to drop the ball, he doesn’t ever want to lose a game and he’ll do whatever it takes to make sure those things don’t happen.
“But he’s consistent. He’s really another quarterback on the field. He knows more about offensive and defensive football than any non-quarterback I’ve ever been around.”
PALMER’S ARM JUST FINE
Houshmandzadeh is one of the few people qualified to pass judgment on Palmer’s arm strength. He played with Palmer when Palmer was in his prime, worked out with him the past two summers and caught passes from Palmer in practice Wednesday.
“I noticed it, and it’s a big difference,” Houshmandzadeh said of the zip on Palmer’s passes. People on TV, they’re like, ‘Oh, he doesn’t have the arm strength.’ They don’t know what they’re talking about.”
There was a time when Houshmandzadeh felt as if Palmer wasn’t the same. That came in the summer of 2010, when Palmer and Houshmandzadeh worked out in Southern California.
Palmer’s ball didn’t have the same zip on it, and he appeared to be throwing at less than full strength. When they convened this summer, Palmer looked like the Palmer of old.
“Last summer (in 2010), the zip wasn’t there,” Houshmandzadeh said. “It was at certain times, but he fatigued really quick. But this summer I asked him, it was one of the let times we worked out, actually, and he was like, ‘Yeah, it was bothering me. … ‘ but this summer, I thought, ‘Wow, this is like Carson when we were rolling in Cincinnati.’ ”
HEYWARD-BEY IN UNCHARTED WATERS
Darrius Heyward-Bey has 27 receptions for 434 yards through seven games. Not mind-blowing stats, but they certainly are impressive considering the recent performance of Raiders wide receivers.
Randy Moss totaled 1,005 yards in 2005. Ever since, the Raiders have not had a receiver who caught more than 62 passes or totaled more than 727 yards in a season.
Louis Murphy led the Raiders wide receivers in receptions and yards each of the past two seasons, with 41 for 609 last season and 34 for 521 in 2009. Johnnie Lee Higgins captured both titles in 2008, with 22 for 366. In 2007, Ronald Curry caught 55 for 717. In 2006, Curry had 62 for 727.
Heyward-Bey is on pace for 62 receptions for 992 yards.
NO WORD ON SELLOUT
The Raiders have until Thursday afternoon to sell enough tickets to avoid a blackout of the Broncos game on local TV. It’s uncertain where the Raiders stand toward that end.
They have sold out their first four regular-season home games this season, something that hadn’t been accomplished since the 2008 campaign.
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November 2nd, 2011 at 2:59 pm
TJ ALREADY IS BEING A LOUD MOUTH
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:00 pm
our offense is going to change for the wrong reason with palmer and housh …….hue is going to have to found a way to prove everyone he’s right and everyone else is wrong. so we are going to pass more dmc less and change the bully…to a pass first team will it help only time will tell
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:01 pm
Sure he didn’t.
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:01 pm
Housh on other Raiders WRs: “They’re all fast. But they don’t really have a guy who can work the middle of the field and can run routes.”
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CorkOnTheNFL Coach Jackson on Tim Tebow: “I hope he doesn’t get it right this week. I hope he continues to do what he’s being doing, keep it that way.”
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Hue and TJ need to stfu already
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:03 pm
The ghost of Al is not pleased.
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:05 pm
Who’s the back up to Palmer???
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:06 pm
TJ need to concert all the they’s to we’s He is a Raider now.
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:06 pm
boller
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:06 pm
Agreed Hue and Tj are loud-mouths. I sure hope TJ is a good downfield blocker, because we run the ball in OAK. Im really nervous Hue is going to throw the ball too much Sunday and Denver gets a few picks and the game will be close.
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:07 pm
Man Coach Bootyskin has some nerve, if this season backfires then Coach Bootyskin should not be retain, this expiriment is all on him, Hagan was our Best receiver.
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:08 pm
not just this sunday i believe
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:09 pm
Hagan on the year:
11 catches 114 yards.
Not our best receiver.
Still liked him, though.
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:10 pm
Coach Hue wants everyone to know this is his team? Did Mark Davis sell? sheesh…………i don’t want to revert to our Keystone Kop days.
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:10 pm
Bootyskin? Lol.
AssPelt get moderated?
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:10 pm
pretty sad to think, disrespecting al’s wishes so soon…this man gave you an opportunity hue….
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:10 pm
I’ve questioned a few of Hue’s blurbs (still scratching my head on why he would even mention “Coach wanted Hagan, I wanted TJ”, but nothing wrong with his words on Tebow. Thats obviously being taken out of context.
Now Housh on the other hand – bruh, you just got here. I’m pretty sure no one on the team is in favor of you voicing your opinions on what the Raiders skill players can and can’t do to the press. Tommy Kelly, choke this dude up real quick!
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:11 pm
I wouldn’t be shocked either, if John Fox decides to play Orton.
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:11 pm
Plunder what I meant is that, out all the Receivers in this Roster, he was probably the most reliable and the one I felt comfortable of making plays. Risky Move by Hue “BootySkin” Jackson, what happen to this guy? his head is so UP his a$$ now, he thinks hes the next coming of AL.
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:13 pm
exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:06 pm
TJ need to concert all the they’s to we’s He is a Raider now.
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CorkOnTheNFL T.J. Houshmandzadeh on before signing with Raiders: “Wherever I go — I live in LA — every fan, ‘Go play for the Raiders.’ ”
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November 2nd, 2011 at 3:13 pm
Is Tom Walsh on speed dial?
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:13 pm
I mean, TJ worked out for the team yesterday. Was that enough time to evaluate the rest of the players? Sounds like what he said came from huejax.
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:14 pm
u guys are funny. hue has been leading this team to victory, and all u guys do is complain. we get a legit premier QB, nothing but complaints. we get a legit, proven 3rd down wr, nothing but complaints. do u guys wanna have a real winner here or not? we cut hagan? oh no! hue has a power trip. he’s ruining everything! what’s he ruining? we were so good w/ boller and hagan? gimme a break.
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:14 pm
I would have preferred retaining Hagan, but the Housh move is really nothing to get worked up over.
Glad that CJ hasn’t been IR’d. I’m probably in the minority here, but I like CJ and think he can be a valuable contributor down the stretch, if he can get healthy.
Hoping the signing/waiving action doesn’t distract from preparation for the mules. Seems to be an atmosphere of clamoring about roster moves and taking a win for granted, based on the Mules and Tebow’s weak showing. This is the NFL and if the Rams can whup the Saints then you’d best believe the Mules can beat the Raids.
Opening total for this game was 45. Smart money quickly hammered that down to 42.5. Raids favored by 8, might go to 9. So books are calling for something like a 26-17 Raider win.
This figures to be perhaps the easiest win of the year, but it’s certainly not a gimme – especially if DMAC doesn’t go.
Raids better not fail here. Fall back to .500 and 0-2 in the division spells deep trouble.
No complacency. Get the job done.
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:15 pm
rob_raider Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:14 pm
u guys are funny. hue has been leading this team to victory, and all u guys do is complain. we get a legit premier QB, nothing but complaints. we get a legit, proven 3rd down wr, nothing but complaints. do u guys wanna have a real winner here or not? we cut hagan? oh no! hue has a power trip. he’s ruining everything! what’s he ruining? we were so good w/ boller and hagan? gimme a break.
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well said, not sure why so many people are tripping. crazy
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:15 pm
I’m gonna give Housh the benefit of the doubt on this quote:
“They’re all fast. But they don’t really have a guy who can work the middle of the field and can run routes.”
In that context it sounds like what he meant was:
” [...] they don’t really have a guy who can work the middle of the field and can run [those kinds of] routes.”
I think his point is that they have the skills to run the deep stuff and can run sideline routes like the out, but they don’t know how to not get killed going over the middle.
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:15 pm
Hope they don’t look past Denver….can’t afford another loss to a divisional opponent here.
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:16 pm
The Bunco’s run defense is pretty average. Without a healthy McFadden we might not be able to do much against them. Their pass defense is non existent. I think I could have a good game out there playing those scrubs. Hence, the Housh signing. We have been pretty non-productive in the passing game the last couple of weeks, and need some changes. This was a good move.
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:16 pm
Hue should be fired at the end of the season; the Raiders are a real mess due to his idiocy. To say TJ and a washed up Carson Palmer are going to help us is complete non-sense. Next season Mark Davis should hire a marquee GM and coach, and demote Hue to offensive co-ordinator, or fired him. “Building a Bully”……blah….
Now Hue admits Hagan was Al’s pick: the inference is that Hue never wanted Hagan nor Moore (our two best receivers) to play, and so therefore force fed DHB.
I predict we go 7 and 9 and don’t make the playoffs. Hue is just not bright enough to do any better.
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:16 pm
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November 2nd, 2011 at 3:16 pm
Hoping the signing/waiving action doesn’t distract from preparation for the mules. Seems to be an atmosphere of clamoring about roster moves and taking a win for granted, based on the Mules and Tebow’s weak showing. This is the NFL and if the Rams can whup the Saints then you’d best believe the Mules can beat the Raids.
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November 2nd, 2011 at 3:16 pm
Raids better not fail here. Fall back to .500 and 0-2 in the division spells deep trouble.
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we are 1-1 in the division now
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:17 pm
Rob why break the chemistry of this team, TJ is nothing but a loudmouth, theres a reason no team wanted to take part of an aging 34 year old, these Receivers are young, Hue should had waited at least 2 weeks to see what kind of chemistry Palmer has with these Receivers.
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:17 pm
after the reading the quote in it’s entirety not as bad as I thought maybe he isn’t a wordsmith. At least he complimented them by saying with all the speed they got and me working the middle…. Wins= all of us happy
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:17 pm
Raids better not fail here. Fall back to .500 and 0-2 in the division spells deep trouble.
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Sorry, should have said 1-2 in division.
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:17 pm
Zymurge Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:15 pm
I’m gonna give Housh the benefit of the doubt on this quote:
“They’re all fast. But they don’t really have a guy who can work the middle of the field and can run routes.”
I think his point is that they have the skills to run the deep stuff and can run sideline routes like the out, but they don’t know how to not get killed going over the middle.
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I think you are exactly right.
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:18 pm
I’m a Hue Jackson man. Like his style and what he’s done since he replaced the wife beater. Oh, by the way, great job in Seattle, Cable. lmfao
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:18 pm
This was the risk they got when they signed this guy…ran his mouth just like this in Seatlle…and now the other players are like ; “What’s wrong with the receivers we have now?” “Did I do something?”
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Its what the receivers didn’t do is why TJ is here. They should look at themselves, the only one getting open and finishing his routes is DHB, the rest better take notice and get there schit together.
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:19 pm
Per, Petros Papadakis (teammate of CP3 at USC) The players at SC, called Hue “bootyface” (behind his back, of course.) Due to the fact, that Hue had a skin graft from his backside to his face. Note the scar on Hue’s forehead…
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:19 pm
TheToozFan55 Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:13 pm
I mean, TJ worked out for the team yesterday. Was that enough time to evaluate the rest of the players? Sounds like what he said came from huejax.
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Housh is a football junkie. I am sure he has been watching tape of the Raiders all season. Especially with Jackson trying to bring him here.
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:19 pm
Hue should had waited at least 2 weeks to see what kind of chemistry Palmer has with these Receivers
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Don’t have 2 weeks. The future is now!
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:20 pm
DMAC was standing on the sidelines WITH PADS ON the whole frickin Queef game. Now he has a boot with crutches? This the twilight zone? We are not good enough to sit our best players because we can “afford” to. There are no easy wins…ask the Saints…
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:21 pm
Hue need to call a good game and CP and TJ execute
1. To get a W
2. To shut the Kleenex Crew up.
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:21 pm
That’s kind of messed up making fun of a guy for having as skin graft, I wonder why he had it.
I don’t know about you guys but I can’t wait for Sunday! I’m ready for some RAIDERS FOOTBALL! Feels like it’s been forever!
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:23 pm
PlunkforHOF Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:16 pm
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Troll²
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:23 pm
Papadakis family owned a great old style Greek Restaurant in San Pedro on Gaffey St. where they sang and broke dishes. John Papadakis played linebacker at USC and the family were great boosters. Restaurant closed last year.
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:25 pm
35.Seymour Bush Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:17 pm
Zymurge Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:15 pm
I’m gonna give Housh the benefit of the doubt on this quote:
“They’re all fast. But they don’t really have a guy who can work the middle of the field and can run routes.”
I think his point is that they have the skills to run the deep stuff and can run sideline routes like the out, but they don’t know how to not get killed going over the middle.
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I think you are exactly right.
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Hahaha, yea, I want that to be what he said too, but it isn’t. Just ’cause we’re all Raider fans doesn’t mean we have to sugarcoat and kiss everything the org or our players do. Housh f’d up saying what he said. If he meant to say that, he should’ve said that. I’m sure the players aren’t looking too deep into it, but he better perform, and he sure didn’t get any points amongst the fellas voicing this opinion to the press.
Winning cures all, and as long as we win, Hue will be fine. He’s just intensified the magnification of the magnifying glass un-necessarily with a few of his words.
Again though, winning cures all, so JuSt WiN BaBY
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:25 pm
Word to yo Mutha LA to TheBay, all our troubles will seem so far away.
I personally hope we murder those fools…
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:26 pm
ElkGRaider Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:20 pm
DMAC was standing on the sidelines WITH PADS ON the whole frickin Queef game. Now he has a boot with crutches? This the twilight zone? We are not good enough to sit our best players because we can “afford” to. There are no easy wins…ask the Saints…
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No he wasn’t. After the second play of the game, he went inside to have x-rays done. He was not on the sidelines for the entire lst half. He came back out of the tunnel in the 2nd half, but by that time the game was done. They must have shot him up with wowwwy juice, because he did want to go in. Thank God he didn’t.
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:27 pm
hey guys–who, besides dhb is a proven good wr? moore? one good game. ford? a few good games last year. dropsies this year. chaz? injured again. murphy? scared of his own shadow. hagan? just a 4th wr on most teams. he was ok.
tj states the obvious. we needed a vet wr that can get open and catch those little 7 yard conversions. this guy will help us a lot.
why didn’t other teams sign him? b/c he’s 34 and not the “future” for building teams, and good teams already had a plan. the raiders are very lucky that palmer and tj were available at the time we needed them.
for the remainder of the season, tj=30 rec/325 yards/4 td’s. he will be our #2 or3 wr. a real nice addition.
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:29 pm
Obviously all these weeling and dealing from Hue is getting the media attention, because its the Raiders After Al Davis, and because everybody loves to see the raiders look like buffoons.
If this was happening in Tampa Bay, who cares, seriously.
But Hue better come up with 2 straight up victory’s, Denver & SD. IF we go 0-2, dissension in the locker room, and in this blog LOL.
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:29 pm
PlunkforHOF Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:16 pm
MR’s Sockpuppet Army latest personell moves:
Almost spit water all over my desk… Nice imagery. Sock puppets are kind of sad and frayed, like the gang of multi-posting troll-dolls that haunt this joint.
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:30 pm
Hue needs to be more humble.
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:30 pm
Rob’s right. And when you think of it, who IS catching passes in the middle of the field for us? No one. Without Shilens out there crossing, teams can leave the middle of the field vacant.
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:30 pm
No he wasn’t. After the second play of the game, he went inside to have x-rays done. He was not on the sidelines for the entire lst half
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I understand he went in for Xrays. I guess my point is you dont have a guy come back with pads on…then sit him for the rest of the game…get an off-week…then have him come in the following week looking worst than the day he was injured…
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:31 pm
PlunkforHOF Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:16 pm
MR’s Sockpuppet Army latest personell moves:
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That is hilarious. And true. Sad, but true.
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:32 pm
# Seymour Bush Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:30 pm
Rob’s right. And when you think of it, who IS catching passes in the middle of the field for us? No one. Without Shilens out there crossing, teams can leave the middle of the field vacant.
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Yes, and another item, where is our TE?… that also needs to be addressed big time.
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:33 pm
That’s kind of messed up making fun of a guy for having as skin graft, I wonder why he had it.
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In a knife fight in a Tijuana brothel on Christmas morning. You should see the other guys and if you meet him, never mention anything about his ears.
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:33 pm
Hopefully the trolls are still going at it in the last post….lolol
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:33 pm
Papadakis family owned a great old style Greek Restaurant in San Pedro on Gaffey St. where they sang and broke dishes. John Papadakis played linebacker at USC and the family were great boosters. Restaurant closed last year.
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Petros is on afternoon sports talk radio here. He tells some pretty funny stories, of when he worked at the restaurant while he was a kid..
The old man is still a big SC booster, and mover and shaker in the San Pedro area..
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:33 pm
The Bunco’s run defense is pretty average. [...] Their pass defense is non existent.
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Don’t think those two aren’t connected. If they can’t stop the pass, why bother to run on them? Or how do you get in enough running yards when every other time you throw against them you either eating up most of the yards between you and the end zone or scoring? The defensive rankings are based on solely on yards gained in each mode.
I seem to recall a Raiders defense in recent years that was so easy to run on that they ended up with a top pass defense.
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:33 pm
BTW, how can folks be rumbling about Hue already? Road loss to Buffalo (5-2). Home loss to the Pats (5-2). Rough loss to the Chefs (4-3), but with Boller at QB, then Carson still in his surf trunks and flip flops.
Not ready to book Hue a spot in Canton, but c’mon people, can’t you remember what the team was like just a couple of years ago?
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:34 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:33 pm
That’s kind of messed up making fun of a guy for having as skin graft, I wonder why he had it.
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In a knife fight in a Tijuana brothel on Christmas morning. You should see the other guys and if you meet him, never mention anything about his ears.
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lmfao
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:34 pm
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November 2nd, 2011 at 3:35 pm
Alright DutchRaider, now I know your f’ing around.
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:37 pm
Palmer says TJ reads defenses really well. Our youngsters, don’t. That’s important, at a time like this, trying to put a new offense together, midseason.
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:37 pm
Grrrrr……I hear you and i think that most are just a tiny bit concerned with his big talk lately. ALL the Raiders need to be quiet and practice. Hue making that statement about Tebow is the kind of thing the broncos will post in the locker room!
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:37 pm
BTW, how can folks be rumbling about Hue already?
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Funny aint it? We all just want the Raiders to be great again. That last game left such a bad taste in the mouth that anything news spun like OReilly…
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:38 pm
To all those out there pissing their panties who keep mentioning how the Rams beat the Saints here is a little fact for you.
In the history of the NFL teams are 1-6 following a 60+ point game. Only ONE time in history has an NFL team scored 60 or more points and won the following week.
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:38 pm
KK,
You’re right. It can;t be understated that we have gone through such a significant change on offense right before the halfway point.
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:39 pm
When’s the last time the Raiders have scored 60 points in a game? I guess I could look it up but I’m lazy. Seems like it was against Denver…
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:40 pm
Hey Hue… it ain’t cool being a jive turkey so close to thanksgiving.
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:40 pm
I don’t like rhetoric coming from the raiders lately. Heads should be in the playbook and eyes on film. If they think they are just going to roll over denver with 80% effort, they are setting themselves up for another “my bad” explanation on sunday evening.
Its cool for fans to talk shhhhh. Pplayers and coaches don’t need to be twittering about how crappy the existing receivers are over the middle or the struggles of the opposing QB.
That KC whuppin was the result of lack of preparation by coaches and players
Get focused on Just Winning Baby! And leave the beeee essssss for some other sucká
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:40 pm
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November 2nd, 2011 at 3:41 pm
Exactly SnB…………..that is the risk with all this crap in the press.
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:41 pm
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HOT!~ 11-02-11: HOUSH ON THE LOOSE, RAIDERS IN RESERVE
TJ takes the field and roster slot, DMC, others being held out…
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November 2nd, 2011 at 3:42 pm
I think we would of all been more pizzed off if we would of cut any other wr besides hagan, I liked hagan too but all our other wr were drafted by al and hue.
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:43 pm
Palmer had nothing to do with TJ? Who cares if he did or was the impetus?
Hue needs to stop talking to the media as much and concentrate on winning.
“Greatestr trade in history!” Slow your roll and your mouth sir.
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:43 pm
Exactly how I feel SnB, just get ready to play football.
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:43 pm
76. Yeah, Hagan hasn’;t stuck with a team in 6 yrs for a reason
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:45 pm
I’ve been meaning to mention this for a while.. Does anyone else here find Herm Edwards as annoying on BSPN as I do?
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:45 pm
SnB
Yeah, I’m disapointed that Boller wasn’t better prepared for the KC game. I blame HueJax, and the media clowning for that.
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:46 pm
Hey Cork, where are the quotes from are Receivers? I would obviously like to get a feel for how there taking this move. So do your job and get us some quotes. OK?
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:46 pm
Its cool for fans to talk shhhhh. Pplayers and coaches don’t need to be twittering about how crappy the existing receivers are over the middle or the struggles of the opposing QB.
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I agree, and when the qb invites you over to watch MNF you should all go instead no one did
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:46 pm
Hue, some things are better left unsaid cause al is spot on about developing these young players. Hagan on the roster by Al’s direction says a lot about hagan cause he doesn’t have raider speed.
None of those receivers on the roster deserved to get cut today. You are jacking up team chemistry by talking out loud that davis wanted hagan and you wanted old man tj.
Gruden wasn’t shhh cause he didn’t know how to develop talent. Don’t follow in his footsteps.
Get focused on denver cause they can sneak up on us and stay out of the media and TRUST your players like Al told you.
Really, hue needs to stop giving sound bytes and get back to work. Yet another M’Fn distraction to deal with in a week b4 a division game
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:46 pm
lol, who is talking smack?
52 of our 53 players haven’t said squat the last month.
Our possible #3 receiver stated our guys don’t catch passes over the middle very often.
Who needs to be studying the playbook, but is instead talking smack? Relax people.
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:48 pm
“Coach Hue Jackson wants everyone to know that the Raiders are his team. He calls the plays on offense, he is responsible for the losses and, most of all, he is the one who decides whether a player is worth adding to the roster.”
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Me thinks Hue needs a boss.
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:51 pm
Agree KK………..ASAP
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:53 pm
joker94583 Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:40 pm
Hey Hue… it ain’t cool being a jive turkey so close to thanksgiving.
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LMAO!
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:54 pm
so kk, tooz
something wrong with Hue replacing Boller with Palmer, and Hagan with TJ?
You think Al Davis DIDN’T KNOW that Hue was a bombastic, high-energy, smack-talking football whiz? Of course he did!
He hired him for his smarts AND his personality. Leave him alone already.
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:55 pm
The best seasons the Raiders have had in the last 20 years have been lead by two smack-talking, conceited, smart, motivating coaches.
Probably not a coincidence.
But if you want quiet Mike White and Art Shell, have at it.
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:58 pm
If any of the Raiders WRs get their feelings hurt by what Housh said, they need to learn the meaning of being a competitor.
Truthfully, none of them have shown the ability to be a consistent presence going up over the middle of a defense. So if they think Housh was out of line, then they should PLAY BETTER and prove him wrong.
But I honestly don’t think any of the Raider WRs are as thin-skinned as many of the posters on this blog.
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:59 pm
KoolKell,
I agree with you had boller sharing snaps with palmer in practice, should have played a more straight up gm with a conservative passing gm and heavy run. Surprised that Pryor wasn’t prepped for gm. That was a week where his feet and ability to buy time could have been helpful.
No prep and really treated the entire gm like it was a practice session.
Also, I don’t like how hue is gushing on palmer like he is. Its really a slap in the face to JC and his leadership. I mean, he gives up two 1sts. That says it all. But using words like “greatest trade ever” is disrespectful to a team player like JC. Make the trade, a short press conference and back to work.
You don’t see belickek or tomlin mugging on the camera about this and that. Go about your damn business. I hope hue realizes that no one is sleeping on the raiders…get prepared!
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:59 pm
It’s a great day to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?!
86.KoolKell Says:
“Coach Hue Jackson wants everyone to know that the Raiders are his team. He calls the plays on offense, he is responsible for the losses and, most of all, he is the one who decides whether a player is worth adding to the roster.”
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Me thinks Hue needs a boss.
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KK coming around, huhm?? It seems that when Hue did have a boss, things were working pretty well, weren’t they? You bet they were. Al had the personnel dialed-in, and ready to go places. Hue Jax needs to get back to coachin’ — it’s way too easy for a HC to get spread too thin. Especially when he likes the camera. Just ask Gruden.
Al the GM knew what he was doing putting this team together. The guys Al had faith in are turning the corner. Hopefully, Hue’s ready to spend more time on field, and less on the phone from here on out.
November 2nd, 2011 at 4:00 pm
Man, some of you guys are something else.
Long-standing complaints:
- We have puppet Head Coaches who aren’t allowed to make decisions
- We have a scholarship program
- We don’t blitz enough
- We don’t play zone enough
- We don’t have real LBs
- We don’t have a bonafide QB
- We have WRs and CBs here only because of speed
Tebow H. Christ, people — CHILL.
November 2nd, 2011 at 4:00 pm
Be good.
Out.
November 2nd, 2011 at 4:03 pm
Alex,
The raiders aren’t good enough yet to talk shhhh and its unnecessary.
Young American,
How does talking about the courage of your teammates HELP? Cause that’s what you are doing when you say a receiver cant/wont go over the middle, which is beeeee essss. How about “Just Win Baby!”
November 2nd, 2011 at 4:04 pm
good post LA.
These guys whine about everything.
Best start to a season in 9 years, and our coach talks too much. ???
November 2nd, 2011 at 4:04 pm
Palmer says: “But he’s consistent. He’s really another quarterback on the field. He knows more about offensive and defensive football than any non-quarterback I’ve ever been around.”
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I assume this is true, if so, very important. Because our WR’s are young and probably don’t adjust routes well. This is very important when you’re trying to put a new offense together mid-season, and stay in the hunt.
November 2nd, 2011 at 4:05 pm
SnB,
WHAT RAIDERS???
You act like all our roster is going on radio talking smack to the rest of the league.
Our coach has a big personality. Davis hired it. Get over it.
November 2nd, 2011 at 4:05 pm
Man the way some of you guys been smacking on Hue Jackson.. would make some one who doesnt follow think that this team is winless so far… the guy have only coached for freaking 7 games .. and he have done better than …. any previous coach last 7 or 8 years so far .. and the guyz purpose is to make the playoffs.. not just sit there and listen to fans what their saying… look what happened to John Fox’s team , he started playing Tebow under pressure from fans … and look where it got him .. no where..i wish some of you guys would just shutup and wait for the season to unfold , and then you can make all the judgements about this team… it wasn’t long ago when we didnt resign Coach cable, Nnamdi Asomugha, Zach Miller… and everybody in here was like sky is falling and no body picked us to win the freaking division .. but games are still played on the field… not on the Paper .. or on the blogs .. so just stfu about Hue already
November 2nd, 2011 at 4:06 pm
Alec7 – did you even read the posts? No one is questioning the move to get palmer, even TJ could be a great move if he’s productive. Stating publicly that Hue “hopes Tebow continues to suck” is just plain stupid. Hue is acting like Cable in the press.
November 2nd, 2011 at 4:07 pm
Tebow H. Christ, people — CHILL.
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LOL!
November 2nd, 2011 at 4:07 pm
SnB,
you must have missed Louis Murphy’s attempt to “go over the middle”.
If TJ unknowkingly called out that effort, GOOD. It’s what Brady and Rivers do every week.
November 2nd, 2011 at 4:08 pm
Tooz, lol, you misquoted your quote, while asking if I read it??
Wow.
Again, Hue has been talking like this SINCE DAY ONE! Build a bully, beat down people. Why is it news now?
November 2nd, 2011 at 4:10 pm
Man this world of media and computers and internet is not good some times.. everything is blown out of proportion..
November 2nd, 2011 at 4:11 pm
Hue has been in the press a LOT more since Al died. And i was ad-libbing. that is basically what hue said.
November 2nd, 2011 at 4:11 pm
Like suddenly Tebow will read that quote and be able to throw 15-yard outs.
November 2nd, 2011 at 4:11 pm
Hue is bullying the roster.
I guess some people don’t like bullies afterall.
November 2nd, 2011 at 4:12 pm
Of course he’s been in the press a LOT more.
Huge trade. Free agent pickup of a noteworthy name.
He’s asked about those things, and his NATURAL personality replies. So what?
You think the Jets want Rex to tone it down? Or is that part of the reason they believed in themselves and went to the AFC Championship two years in a row?
November 2nd, 2011 at 4:12 pm
Rule #1 of people management:
Be yourself.
November 2nd, 2011 at 4:13 pm
Blogs don’t exist so that we can all agree with everything the coach or organization does. Or with each other. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I do appreciate that in this session right now – people are not cursing and calling other people names for their opinions. It’s refreshing.
November 2nd, 2011 at 4:14 pm
Rex is an embarassment.
November 2nd, 2011 at 4:14 pm
This above all: to thine own self be true
He is who he is. So long as he can keep putting out a top-7 NFL offense, personality matters very little. You’ll always rub some people the wrong way, whether you’re timid like Norv, secretive like Belichick, or loud like Hue and Rex.
November 2nd, 2011 at 4:17 pm
I get that Alex7 – i just don’t think we’re good enough yet to be crowing and strutting around like we’re the patriots. When we go to the playoffs for the first time in 9 years, I’ll be okay with it.
November 2nd, 2011 at 4:18 pm
Why is Mark Davis being completely overlooked?
If Mark Davis is ok with what Hue is going and you are not, shouldn’t your anger be directed at Mark Davis?
November 2nd, 2011 at 4:19 pm
Good question, JHill, since Hue said “This is my team”>
i asked earlier if Mark Davis sold him the team……
November 2nd, 2011 at 4:19 pm
Denver is 4-3, Oakland is 4-3.
November 2nd, 2011 at 4:19 pm
Long-standing complaints:
- We have puppet Head Coaches who aren’t allowed to make decisions
- We have a scholarship program
- We don’t blitz enough
- We don’t play zone enough
- We don’t have real LBs
- We don’t have a bonafide QB
- We have WRs and CBs here only because of speed
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Add to that:
- The WRs aren’t aggressive enough/are too complacent/are timid/don’t fight for the ball/don’t want the ball.
This is why I’m not worried about the most recent roster moves or any press associated with them. The above problems have been the primary issues with the team for years, and they’re now finally being addressed. Doesn’t bother me in the least that Hue is fired up about it. He has to say something to the media, after all, and there has been no indication that the team has bought into their hype so much that they’re not preparing. None whatsoever.
The loss in KC was on Boller being exactly what he is – a terrible QB. That’s it. The defense in particular had as good of a game as one could ask of them.
November 2nd, 2011 at 4:20 pm
I love Hue as a coach, as GM thats a wait and see thing.
I like his attitude, he has some swagger to him. There is nothing wrong with what he said. He just stated he doesn’t want the guy to get it this week, what is wrong with that? please explain
November 2nd, 2011 at 4:20 pm
Just Win Baby
Rex Ryan is embarrassing.
Those two statements don’t make sense together. It’s one or the other.
Rex is 4th in regular seasons wins and 3rd in playoff games since he took over.
You’d turn that down?
November 2nd, 2011 at 4:21 pm
Hue didn’t actaully say that, Tooz.
That is Steve’s opinion.
November 2nd, 2011 at 4:22 pm
Tooz,
I still don’t see who you perceive as “strutting around.”
Hue, since day 1? Nothing’s changed.
November 2nd, 2011 at 4:22 pm
Everything I hear from Hue sounds like him being proud of the roster he has put together. I don’t hear anything about how badly the Raiders are going to beat another team, or making any excuses for losing coming from him.
November 2nd, 2011 at 4:23 pm
Denver is 4-3, Oakland is 4-3.
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You mean Denver is 2-5. They beat the Bengels and the Phins.
November 2nd, 2011 at 4:24 pm
Good question, JHill, since Hue said “This is my team”>
i asked earlier if Mark Davis sold him the team……
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Hes ben saying that since training camp, he is the Coach and thats what coaches say.
November 2nd, 2011 at 4:24 pm
I like Hue, i just want him to keep a lower profile. i don’t agree that he was focused on last week’s game. there was just too much drama. Rex Ryan is an embarassment in the press. Not talking about his record. He says dumb things sometimes, that’s all.
November 2nd, 2011 at 4:24 pm
The Head Coach has been lobbying to the owner for Housh as a vet mentor to these young WRs since the summer.
Lobbied to Al Davis and lobbied to Mark Davis.
Mark Davis went with Housh over Hagan.
November 2nd, 2011 at 4:25 pm
Excuse me.
November 2nd, 2011 at 4:25 pm
certainly, Tooz, you can wish Hue to have a low profile.
But that’s not who he is, so it’s an odd request.
He probably wouldn’t be as driven and good if he did have a low profile.
November 2nd, 2011 at 4:25 pm
That’s brilliant, Krappy. Now that you can’t post the Raiders record over the last 8 years under Al, you do the next best thing -
Post their record this year.
The dumb just keep getting dumberer …
November 2nd, 2011 at 4:25 pm
Everything I hear from Hue sounds like him being proud of the roster he has put together. I don’t hear anything about how badly the Raiders are going to beat another team, or making any excuses for losing coming from him.
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Agreed.
Nothing like Ryan at all, imo.
November 2nd, 2011 at 4:26 pm
I just think the Raiders, having been so bad for so long, responded well to
Jon Gruden
and Hue Jackson
two guys who will make ANYONE feel like they can kick a$$ BECAUSE of their brashness.
November 2nd, 2011 at 4:27 pm
The only adjustments I care about from Hue are scrapping the Wildcat and TE reverses.
November 2nd, 2011 at 4:28 pm
but if he scraps the wildcat, it won’t show up in next year’s MADDEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And Hue knows his roster loves Madden.
November 2nd, 2011 at 4:28 pm
If that is what happens over the course of the year, then i stand corrected. He can be as brash as he wants. And i didn’t compare Hue to Rex Ryan.
November 2nd, 2011 at 4:30 pm
Thanks for not cursing and calling me names because we disagreed. Gotta go make dinner.
November 2nd, 2011 at 4:31 pm
Master Beeecham Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 4:25 pm
That’s brilliant, Krappy. Now that you can’t post the Raiders record over the last 8 years under Al, you do the next best thing -
Post their record this year.
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Geez Beecham, still holding a grudge, eh? I must have really punctured you somewhere? Lmao.
November 2nd, 2011 at 4:32 pm
See ya Tooz, make the wife/girlfriend/kids proud with it!
November 2nd, 2011 at 4:32 pm
for what it’s worth, I wish all people kept a low-profile, but I understand that some need that external motivation to excel.
November 2nd, 2011 at 4:34 pm
Tooz is a retired MOM, Alex.
November 2nd, 2011 at 4:35 pm
lol, thanks.
In some parts of the bay area though, my post would STILL make sense.
November 2nd, 2011 at 4:38 pm
Krappy, please understand that everyone on the blog just feels sorry/pities you.
Now that you don’t have Al to whine and cry about, it’s like you’ve lost your purpose in life.
You have all of our deepest sympathies.
November 2nd, 2011 at 4:39 pm
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.
November 2nd, 2011 at 4:39 pm
Alright gotta go.
November 2nd, 2011 at 4:39 pm
was laughing at post 141
November 2nd, 2011 at 4:43 pm
Slapped, embarrassed and humiliated
Uh … must be time to go!
Run for the hills, Krappy! Or at least waddle that overstuffed rear end down to Arby’s for a few dozen orders of curly fries.
November 2nd, 2011 at 4:44 pm
Just watched his interview…I like his confidence, hope he plays how his mouth talks…
Im SUPER excited for the team to get out there on sunday.. Lets Danceeeee Donkies
November 2nd, 2011 at 4:45 pm
Joker94583 Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:40 pm
Hey Hue… it ain’t cool being a jive turkey so close to thanksgiving.
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trading places–nice reference
November 2nd, 2011 at 4:48 pm
al d. davis Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:16 pm
Hue should be fired at the end of the season; the Raiders are a real mess due to his idiocy. To say TJ and a washed up Carson Palmer are going to help us is complete non-sense. Next season Mark Davis should hire a marquee GM and coach, and demote Hue to offensive co-ordinator, or fired him. “Building a Bully”……blah….
Now Hue admits Hagan was Al’s pick: the inference is that Hue never wanted Hagan nor Moore (our two best receivers) to play, and so therefore force fed DHB.
I predict we go 7 and 9 and don’t make the playoffs. Hue is just not bright enough to do any better.
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You are a total weasel spewing that garbage..Hagan and Moore = two best receivers? what village or tribe did you come out of?
November 2nd, 2011 at 4:49 pm
Speaking of constant humiliation, there’s my humble little minion, Nob Raider.
Hey little fella, getting ready to post those super hilarious party boat reviews? You know, the ones that make you and your BFF Albert Bigelo Puss pee your panties every time you read them?
If you didn’t love getting slapped around so much, I might just feel sorry for you.
Ha, I take that back. No I wouldn’t!
PARTY AT GROUND ZERO WITH THE BEEECHAM MASTER PLAN
November 2nd, 2011 at 4:56 pm
Hue?
How can you drop so fast, so low, so easily? Just like that people are talking, players are wondering, writers are pointing out ur idiot decisions, and fans are rumblin. Your a rookie head coach, and you talk like your it, and are loving yourself.
November 2nd, 2011 at 4:58 pm
Blackmamba_20 Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 4:44 pm
Just watched his interview…I like his confidence, hope he plays how his mouth talks…
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he hasn’t for yrs now. that’s why he’s been on vacation the whole year. every1 can see he can’t back up his talk.
you should come in saying you’ll do wat’s needed, not saying how the wr’s on the team are lackin, and you’re the answer. stupid comment. stupid move by hue
November 2nd, 2011 at 5:03 pm
152.BushIsBliss Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 4:58 pm
Blackmamba_20 Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 4:44 pm
Just watched his interview…I like his confidence, hope he plays how his mouth talks…
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he hasn’t for yrs now. that’s why he’s been on vacation the whole year. every1 can see he can’t back up his talk.
you should come in saying you’ll do wat’s needed, not saying how the wr’s on the team are lackin, and you’re the answer. stupid comment. stupid move by hue
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Oh i agree,
i do like the confidence he has in his ability but as i said i hope he can back up what his mouth is spewing.. and history as you say an most know would prove otherwise..the comment about leadership and the other WR lacking was mind bogling
November 2nd, 2011 at 5:03 pm
After watching the interview of Hue explaining his logic behind the trade it did not sound as arrogant as I heard. He made a hard decision that I may not agree with but I can respect what he did. I still think Glass Schilens or one of the TEs should go myself.
But since Hagan mainly runs the under routes like TJ Hue made that move. Now I still think Hagan is going to show up on someones roster and be pretty good. He has a lot of upside and I hope he makes us regret the trade.
http://www.raiders.com/media-vault/videos/Houshmandzadeh-Media-Session-11-02-11/44e8ce46-148b-481d-b77e-1651851f3b88#?id=1f39492b-2243-4044-b09d-2d6f4fc968ff
November 2nd, 2011 at 5:04 pm
Master Beeecham Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 4:49 pm
Speaking of constant humiliation, there’s my humble little minion, Nob Raider.
Hey little fella, getting ready to post those super hilarious party boat reviews? You know, the ones that make you and your BFF Albert Bigelo Puss pee your panties every time you read them?
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Can’t wait for you to have me back, Massa Beech. I have to admit you were right. Noone put the funk in my spunk like you did last week. Limber up those magic fingers.
You never told me what name you preferred? Thor, or HunkaHunka Burning Love?
November 2nd, 2011 at 5:07 pm
ok, back to my self imposed exile.
I just saw Beech post, and I got a little woody just thinking about last week.
November 2nd, 2011 at 5:10 pm
I would encourage anyone that’s worried about Housh’s comments regarding our current receivers to watch the interview on the Raiders’ website.
In my opinion, he in no way slighted or inferred anything negative about the current group. He made a statement that I think was taken out of context. He in fact said a couple of times that “these guys can play”. That wasn’t reported by Vittorio Tafur, and Tafur would have to tell you why he reported part of the statement and not the whole thing.
November 2nd, 2011 at 5:14 pm
The reason Hue didn’t check will Al about the recent roster moves is because well, Al is DEAD. No more Al making changes or Al theories about how the game should be played, Al is history and its time for the fans to move along because nobody in professional football will try and run the team like Al did instead they will do it the way they want to run it.
November 2nd, 2011 at 5:15 pm
Master Beeecham Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 4:49 pm
Speaking of constant humiliation, there’s my humble little minion, Nob Raider.
Hey little fella, getting ready to post those super hilarious party boat reviews? You know, the ones that make you and your BFF Albert Bigelo Puss pee your panties every time you read them?
If you didn’t love getting slapped around so much, I might just feel sorry for you.
Ha, I take that back. No I wouldn’t!
PARTY AT GROUND ZERO WITH THE BEEECHAM MASTER PLAN
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how have u slapped me around dumbazz?
November 2nd, 2011 at 5:15 pm
@157
I Saw it and thats where i based my opinon on his confidence etc.. Now i see what your saying and he did give the other guys ups and explained how he can help etc. But to say they are lacking at working the middle (weather true or not) could have been left out, buy hey im still excited to see what he can do
November 2nd, 2011 at 5:15 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:45 pm
SnB
Yeah, I’m disapointed that Boller wasn’t better prepared for the KC game. I blame HueJax, and the media clowning for that.
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uh, i blame boller…………..cuz he sucks.
November 2nd, 2011 at 5:17 pm
Teach, I was just getting ready to say the same thing. I just watched Housh’s interview and I didn’t think what he was saying was negative at all. I think it got taken out of context a little bit but right after that he talked about how much talent and speed the Wr’s here have. Hopefully he is what he thinks he is, if he goes up the middle and fights for balls than more power to him. I haven’t seen a lot of our guys fight for balls this season, especially in the last game.
November 2nd, 2011 at 5:18 pm
hue’s doing a great job.
tj pointed out the obvious.
y’all jus need to shut it.
November 2nd, 2011 at 5:18 pm
Rob, mistress biatchi sits in his dad’s garage huffing paint thinner in a paper bag. After a few hours of that his rotted brain fantasizes he is on some pleasure boat with females. Nothing could be further from the truth. After he gets his ass handed to him in here, he throws up the V for victory sign and declares victory. Unfortunately, victory does not come just by declaring it. Unless you sit around huffing paint thinner in a bag.
November 2nd, 2011 at 5:20 pm
What’s up with all the ho-mo stuff going on in here all of a sudden? Magic fingers? Hunkahunka burning love? What’s wrong with you guys? Is this some sort of joke?
November 2nd, 2011 at 5:20 pm
Will Hagan be a Raider again?
November 2nd, 2011 at 5:22 pm
[...] and so therefore force fed DHB.
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You mean that guy that keeps getting open on 12 yard outs and catching everything thrown at him? Yeah, that’s my definition of “forcing” it to. Kind of like “forcing” DMac and Bush to run through gaping holes in the line for 5+ yards per carry. I hate that!
November 2nd, 2011 at 5:25 pm
The Realist Dirty Raccoon Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 5:20 pm
Will Hagan be a Raider again?
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Probably not.
November 2nd, 2011 at 5:29 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 5:18 pm
Rob, mistress biatchi sits in his dad’s garage huffing paint thinner in a paper bag. After a few hours of that his rotted brain fantasizes he is on some pleasure boat with females. Nothing could be further from the truth. After he gets his ass handed to him in here, he throws up the V for victory sign and declares victory. Unfortunately, victory does not come just by declaring it. Unless you sit around huffing paint thinner in a bag.
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i know. how do u come on here, not actually have a conversation w/ anyone, immediately claim u won and go away? he’s such a retard.
November 2nd, 2011 at 5:30 pm
Blackmamba_20 Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 4:44 pm
Just watched his interview…I like his confidence, hope he plays how his mouth talks…
Im SUPER excited for the team to get out there on sunday.. Lets Danceeeee Donkies
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And you really have to watch them. In interviews players and coaches give to media, to me, it’s almost never what they say (cause it’s the same BS we’ve heard since the invention of the microphone – “They played a good game, we tip our hats to them,” etc. etc. etc.) it’s how they say it and expressions, body language and so forth.
I suggest you guys watch the interviews and take the posts for what they are, cause there is information here in terms of who’s practicing, what’s the vibe and so on but player quotes sometimes seem out of context or have portions omitted.
For example, Steve wrote about TJ saying the Raiders don’t have that guy that can play the middle and run routes, right? But he didn’t write that TJ also said in the same breath that he was impressed because every WR on the roster can play.
Also, didn’t write the best part of TJ’s interview and why I think we just traded (figuratively) a Derek Hagan for a guy who brings the same thing (say we trade two special teams plays for an extra 2 catches), but brings it maybe a little bit louder, with a lot more production and a familiarity with the HC and QB and why I like this move.
When asked about his style of play being fearless:
“I just try to focus on the ball. I don’t care if I get hit — if you don’t catch it, you’re gonna get hit anyway — I wanna catch the ball. I told Carson I’ll take any hit. If you throw me the ball, I’ma take a hit for the ball. Doesn’t matter who it is, I don’t care if it’s Richard Seymour, you know?”
TJ earlier in the interview “I’ve got money, I’m set. I play because I love to play.”
TJ and CP3 have worked out every summer for nearly a decade. Both have a great understanding of NFL defenses and played against some of the best regularly… and have had some success. CP3 has a winning record against Baltimore, for example.
Plus, their initials fit the mold we already have going on here and they’re easy to write.
November 2nd, 2011 at 5:30 pm
i’m sorry. he’s intelligence-challenged.
November 2nd, 2011 at 5:31 pm
rob_raider Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 5:29 pm
i know. how do u come on here, not actually have a conversation w/ anyone, immediately claim u won and go away?
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Well, if you’re lying face down on your garage floor, with a bag of paint thinner up in your grill surrounded by nudie mags, the mind will do weird things.
November 2nd, 2011 at 5:32 pm
Al’s going to crawl out of his grave and trade Hue Jackson to the Dallas Cowboys for several 4th round picks and Arbys gift cars.
November 2nd, 2011 at 5:35 pm
Oh, yeah, 157, there you go. Teach nailed it.
November 2nd, 2011 at 5:35 pm
corkran and jerry just like to push their own views. they don’t really know the game. i think they get too influenced by tweets and blogs. they would suck at fantasy football.
a lot of writers have an inferiority complex. the coaches and players don’t respect them or treat them like a big deal, and they think they are, so they get a chip on their little shoulders and try to report accordingly.
they don’t know the difference between reporting facts and stating opinion.
November 2nd, 2011 at 5:37 pm
lineup32 Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 5:14 pm
The reason Hue didn’t check will Al about the recent roster moves is because well, Al is DEAD.
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And not one journalism class. Good work.
November 2nd, 2011 at 5:38 pm
Rob knows the game. Al tells Herrera something. Herrera puts it on the Raiders website. Rob reads it, repeats it several times throughout the day. Now THAT’S football knowledge!
November 2nd, 2011 at 5:39 pm
Uh, Jerry McDonald and Steve Corkran are columnists as well as reporters. A columnist offers opinions. That’s what they do.
November 2nd, 2011 at 5:39 pm
Should I rub this in? …The “great” Derek Hagan has been released, the bloggers white night …gone. The end of the world is upon us …lol
What I don’t like about the move: Al preferred Hagan over T.J., youth over age, potential over existing, how many years can we realistically get out of TJ, 2?
What I do like about this move: TJ is better than Hagan and should produce at a higher level even if its just over 2 years. Hagan was not as good as some of you believe and could easily be replaced ….hence, he has been replaced.
November 2nd, 2011 at 5:43 pm
TerrapinRaider Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 5:39 pm
Should I rub this in? …The “great” Derek Hagan has been released, the bloggers white night …gone. The end of the world is upon us …lol
What I don’t like about the move: Al preferred Hagan over T.J., youth over age, potential over existing, how many years can we realistically get out of TJ, 2?
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We didn’t have Carson Palmer on the roster when Al chose Hagan. That might have made a difference.
November 2nd, 2011 at 5:44 pm
One thing you guys keep failing to mention about the going over the middle comment is he said …
I watched a lot of football on TV since I have NFL Sunday ticket, and …..
The he made the comment about not having anyone who goes over the middle.
The went on to say all these guys can play.
Tafur, a Haganite, trying to stir up stuff.
November 2nd, 2011 at 5:57 pm
It just amazes me with all the comments in this blogged. Before Coach Al passed, it was “can’t wait till Al is gone, we will never be a real team till he’s out”…blah blah blah. Now that he is, it’s “Al would never allow this. We’re screwed.” I think many of you just like to complain, and chant doom and gloom. We are in an adjustment period. Get over it. We haven’t had a very productive passing game in years. I am personally looking forward to having a real quarterback and a proven receiver. How many wide open receivers did Jason Campbell overthrow this year. Can anyone say Hostetler? It will be good to have a receiver that CP trusts to gain confidence. Everything else will pan out. DHB will have more receptions, so will the rest of the receivers. And our running game will get better with a better threat with the pass. Get over it. We will be fine.
November 2nd, 2011 at 5:57 pm
Who would’ve figured ..a ‘reporter’ taking comments out of context? I haven’t even listened to all of the interviews but that doesn’t surprise me.
Steve was so gun-hoe about Hagan that it really wouldn’t surprise me. But I give him credit though as he is really tryin to backtrack from the DHB blurbs.
November 2nd, 2011 at 5:58 pm
The same fools who are whining about cutting Hagan are the same fools who whined about DHB starting.
Those fools dont have a clue on how to evaluate a player’s potential.
As for Murphy, I said there was no reason to rush him back and they should leave him inactive a few extra weeks after he his healthy. I was wrong, there was a reason to try to rush him back. They still shouldnt have but there was a reason to. The other guys werent getting the job done. Murphy will be up to speed before long and now we upgraded the position even more by signing TJ.
And the fools are still whining.
November 2nd, 2011 at 6:05 pm
We didn’t have Carson Palmer on the roster when Al chose Hagan. That might have made a difference.
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This is what Hue indicated in his interview, that circumstances were different now.
November 2nd, 2011 at 6:07 pm
Hue also gave Hagan a ton of praise and it sounded genuine. He just knew TJ better and thought this would be better for the team.
The comments earlier about getting the band back together or hooking his boys up with jobs beofre he ditches us for a better gig or whatever.
Seriously?
At first, I didn’t think this was a terribly big move, but I just like it more and more.
November 2nd, 2011 at 6:14 pm
Jerry Rice was 38 when he came to the Raiders.
November 2nd, 2011 at 6:16 pm
Oh, believe me, I’m not complaining that Al is no longer running this team.
November 2nd, 2011 at 6:17 pm
Notice that Boller is still on the roster? Perhaps with all the moves, Hue could go get a backup QB so that if there is another injury, the season isn’t totally over.
Disgraceful to have a backup play that poorly
November 2nd, 2011 at 6:18 pm
Is Lito the nickle CB…or does he supplant DVD?
November 2nd, 2011 at 6:19 pm
Slow, Slow, Slow, Slow…..
November 2nd, 2011 at 6:19 pm
lbs can keep up with tj…
November 2nd, 2011 at 6:20 pm
dvd is the starter. sheppard will not supplant him
November 2nd, 2011 at 6:21 pm
I just don’t like the idea that a guy off the street is seen as a better option than the players on the roster right now.
TJ didn’t get any play anywhere…that concerns me on its own. He was all but retired.
His time in Seattle and Baltimore was very unforgettable.
November 2nd, 2011 at 6:21 pm
TerrapinRaider Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 6:20 pm
dvd is the starter. sheppard will not supplant him
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We’ll see by the end of the year
November 2nd, 2011 at 6:21 pm
“forgettable”
November 2nd, 2011 at 6:25 pm
Raiderinparadise Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:06 pm
Agreed Hue and Tj are loud-mouths. I sure hope TJ is a good downfield blocker, because we run the ball in OAK. Im really nervous Hue is going to throw the ball too much Sunday and Denver gets a few picks and the game will be close.
Raiderdav Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:07 pm
Man Coach Bootyskin has some nerve, if this season backfires then Coach Bootyskin should not be retain, this expiriment is all on him, Hagan was our Best receiver.
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Are we serious? Loudmouths? Coach should not be retained? Who are these losers trying start some rift that isn’t there. This season is about winning. The Raiders are 4-3 right and are great position to make the playoffs. Gtfoh fake ass posters.
November 2nd, 2011 at 6:25 pm
Yep, just listened to the interviews. Hue sure did not look so gun-hoe about cuttin Hagan for TJ. But he had to make a decision for the better of the team. Potentially increase the WR production, gives Palmer something he’s used too instead of everyone being alien, and someone who can show the youth how he wants it done.
And TJ sure did not sound that degrading to the current WR corp,
Typical reporters taking comments way out of context
November 2nd, 2011 at 6:27 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 5:39 pm
Uh, Jerry McDonald and Steve Corkran are columnists as well as reporters. A columnist offers opinions. That’s what they do.
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And get blog hits. However, there’s a big difference between opining on something and holding back the entirety of a player’s comments in order to portray an inaccurate (and controversial) version of the player’s expressed view on a particular subject.
I believe it’s what Tafur did in his tweet, and what Corkran did in the above story.
November 2nd, 2011 at 6:29 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 6:21 pm
I just don’t like the idea that a guy off the street is seen as a better option than the players on the roster right now.
TJ didn’t get any play anywhere…that concerns me on its own. He was all but retired.
His time in Seattle and Baltimore was very unforgettable.
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Housh did have 30 receptions last year for Baltimore. That’s about 20 more than Hagan would have ended with.
November 2nd, 2011 at 6:31 pm
May the best 53 players stay in the team ..it’s all about winning this year.
November 2nd, 2011 at 6:33 pm
So what’s the word on CJ37?
November 2nd, 2011 at 6:34 pm
SharkCatcher Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 6:31 pm
May the best 53 players stay in the team ..it’s all about winning this year.
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lol. Like it. “we’re not losers anymore”
November 2nd, 2011 at 6:34 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 6:21 pm
I just don’t like the idea that a guy off the street is seen as a better option than the players on the roster right now.
TJ didn’t get any play anywhere…that concerns me on its own. He was all but retired.
His time in Seattle and Baltimore was very unforgettable.
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the same could be said about Palmer, so I dont buy it
November 2nd, 2011 at 6:38 pm
La Milicia Negra Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 6:34 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 6:21 pm
I just don’t like the idea that a guy off the street is seen as a better option than the players on the roster right now.
TJ didn’t get any play anywhere…that concerns me on its own. He was all but retired.
His time in Seattle and Baltimore was very unforgettable.
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the same could be said about Palmer, so I dont buy itv
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Nah, I don’t think we can consider Palmer off the street. He wasn’t available for just anyone to reach out and sign.
November 2nd, 2011 at 6:39 pm
TJ Houshmenzadeh caught 79 passes for 911 yards in his final year in Seattle. That is not a forgettable year in Oakland.
If you want to throw his time with the offensive juggernaut in Baltimore into the mix, be my guest. Based on what that team does year in and year out offensively, I’m inclined to take that year with a grain of salt.
November 2nd, 2011 at 6:42 pm
Taken out of context or not, there is no reason to jump on TJ, he’s right. Maybe he should or shouldn’t have said it. I’m sick of the sissification of this league where words make grown men cry.
He’s right either way. We don’t have squat as far as a over the middle type receiver goes. They haven’t been successful there at all. Let’s see what he can do.
November 2nd, 2011 at 6:43 pm
edward teach Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 6:39 pm
TJ Houshmenzadeh caught 79 passes for 911 yards in his final year in Seattle. That is not a forgettable year in Oakland.
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for a WR it would be tremendous numbers..
November 2nd, 2011 at 6:44 pm
If you get a chance to watch TJs interview from this article, it’s a pretty good interview.
Worth checking out.
November 2nd, 2011 at 6:46 pm
test
November 2nd, 2011 at 6:50 pm
There’s Blackbeard with words of wisdom and restraint
November 2nd, 2011 at 6:52 pm
And MR dancing on Al’s grave
November 2nd, 2011 at 6:52 pm
Cue the sockpuppets..
November 2nd, 2011 at 6:58 pm
TJ: “There gonna hit you anyway. Just catch the ball”
Like that
November 2nd, 2011 at 7:04 pm
Morilla Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 6:42 pm
Taken out of context or not, there is no reason to jump on TJ, he’s right. Maybe he should or shouldn’t have said it. I’m sick of the sissification of this league where words make grown men cry.
He’s right either way. We don’t have squat as far as a over the middle type receiver goes. They haven’t been successful there at all. Let’s see what he can do.
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Sissification where words make grown men cry. Wow. Couldn’t have said it better myself.
November 2nd, 2011 at 7:11 pm
Steve Corkran wants everybody to know that he knew exactly what Al Davis wanted and now he knows exactly what Hue Jackson wants and isn’t afraid to let everybody else know it. He’s a g.d. mind reader …. or a tabloid journalist.
November 2nd, 2011 at 7:13 pm
People trying to get on Jackson for the moves he made need check their egos at the door. Real talk. Hagan doesn’t belong in the same sentence as TJ. Period. Carson playing his average ball is Campbell at his best. And Curry has already played a big role in solidifying the defense. All good moves, with the potential to be great, by Coach Jackson.
November 2nd, 2011 at 7:17 pm
Raider 510 Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 7:13 pm
People trying to get on Jackson for the moves he made need check their egos at the door. Real talk. Hagan doesn’t belong in the same sentence as TJ. Period. Carson playing his average ball is Campbell at his best. And Curry has already played a big role in solidifying the defense. All good moves, with the potential to be great, by Coach Jackson.
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Solid.
November 2nd, 2011 at 7:17 pm
202.Try Some Reality Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 6:33 pm
So what’s the word on CJ37?
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That hes gained more yards than CJ2K LOL
November 2nd, 2011 at 7:18 pm
PlunkforHOF Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 6:52 pm
And MR dancing on Al’s grave
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Not at all. Just saying I’m glad he’s not running football operations anymore, no matter what they reason.
November 2nd, 2011 at 7:22 pm
Blackmamba_20 Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 7:17 pm
202.Try Some Reality Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 6:33 pm
So what’s the word on CJ37?
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That hes gained more yards than CJ2K LOL
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What’s up with that cat, anyway?
November 2nd, 2011 at 7:22 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 6:58 pm
TJ: “There gonna hit you anyway. Just catch the ball”
Like that
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Spoken like a man that has been there and done that! TJ is gonna pay huge dividends to our young WR Corp. In a way Hagan never would be able to.
Allaboard the Hue Train…
November 2nd, 2011 at 7:24 pm
221.Try Some Reality Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 7:22 pm
Blackmamba_20 Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 7:17 pm
202.Try Some Reality Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 6:33 pm
So what’s the word on CJ37?
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That hes gained more yards than CJ2K LOL
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What’s up with that cat, anyway?
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I Dunno bro, they say he running soft, going down easy..there Olines weak as, but Ringer is running better right now..
November 2nd, 2011 at 7:28 pm
On another topic; anybody watch American Horror Story on FX?
Creepy new series. Really well done.
November 2nd, 2011 at 7:37 pm
Actually if I remember right, Housh had a pretty good game in that playoff loss at Shi**sburgh. 3 or 4 catches before dropping that last one. Can’t be that washed up.
November 2nd, 2011 at 7:50 pm
The #2 WR in Baltimore right now is on pace for about 32 catches this season. He has less than half the catches that Ray Rice does and is behind both the first and second TEs. The Baltimore offense simply does not utilize a second WR. They run ball control with plenty of Rice both rushing and receiving, mixing in safe passes to the TEs and Boldin (almost like a TE physically).
Last year, Housh was the #3 WR on the team behind studs Boldin and Mason, that had 60+ catches each. Meanwhile Rice soaked up 63 catches and a finally healthy Todd Heap grabbed another 40. It’s pretty amazing that there were even 30 targets available to the #3 given that mix. Looking at last year’s numbers without looking at the whole situation is very misleading.
November 2nd, 2011 at 7:51 pm
Edward Teach Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 7:28 pm
On another topic; anybody watch American Horror Story on FX?
Creepy new series. Really well done.
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I’ve been seeing the promos. Looked like it could be promising.
November 2nd, 2011 at 7:54 pm
Hey I like Hagan just as much as the next guy in here. But the truth of the matter is, in the last three games, Hagan has 2 more receptions than TJ Housh, Priest TJ, MR and 504 combined.
November 2nd, 2011 at 7:54 pm
Hue’s ego is writing checks his body can’t cash. TJ is washed up!
November 2nd, 2011 at 7:57 pm
morilla Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 7:51 pm
Edward Teach Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 7:28 pm
On another topic; anybody watch American Horror Story on FX?
Creepy new series. Really well done.
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I’ve been seeing the promos. Looked like it could be promising.
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Okay, cool, the title sounds corny, but I’ll sure check it out now!
November 2nd, 2011 at 7:59 pm
Albinator Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 7:54 pm
Hue’s ego is writing checks his body can’t cash.
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What does this even mean? Way to butcher a metaphor that doesn’t even make sense in this context.
Either way, the amount of ire for Hue after cutting a receiver who has been the #5 option on this team at best (with Murphy hurt, no less) in order to provide Carson Palmer with a familiar target to make him more comfortable in the offense is completely laughable.
November 2nd, 2011 at 7:59 pm
Whats up Nation?! Really wasn’t happy with the Hagan cut because there are I’m sure someone else that could have made room for TJ, but I will, as a long time Raider fan accept it! Welcome to the Nation TJ! Now please show the opposing D’s “Whosyourdaddy”!
November 2nd, 2011 at 8:00 pm
LMN,
You can watch the first three or four episodes on the FX website.
Good luck figuring out who’s dead and who’s not.
November 2nd, 2011 at 8:03 pm
Well, anyways…Can’t wait to get back to Raider football…I hate bye weeks! Ugghhhh!
November 2nd, 2011 at 8:03 pm
I liked Hagan a lot, but it was clear he wasn’t going to get playing time over DHB, Moore, Ford, and Chaz or Murphy if healthy. So if that’s the case, why not give Carson Palmer a familiar target – a big, veteran slot guy who can help on 3rd down. The Raiders didn’t have anyone on the roster who fit that role, and Housh can help mentor the young receivers. He signed a prorated contract at the veteran minimum. Epitome of a low-risk move, but people here are FREAKING OUT.
November 2nd, 2011 at 8:05 pm
edward teach Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 8:00 pm
LMN,
You can watch the first three or four episodes on the FX website.
Good luck figuring out who’s dead and who’s not.
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im downloading the sh!t now, My GF loves that stuff..
if you guys over there have any recommendation on other new series, just say it =)
November 2nd, 2011 at 8:06 pm
HWNRDR,U GOT A CREW COMING THIS SUNDAY ?
November 2nd, 2011 at 8:07 pm
All good moves, with the potential to be great, by Coach Jackson.
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You mean by Mark Davis, right?
November 2nd, 2011 at 8:07 pm
Hark Javis.
Mue Dackson.
November 2nd, 2011 at 8:07 pm
#49 and #226 I agree 100 percent.
November 2nd, 2011 at 8:08 pm
Raiders 34 Broncos 14
November 2nd, 2011 at 8:09 pm
My first game in Oakland. Fan since 1973.
November 2nd, 2011 at 8:09 pm
Hey Dirt Lot…Yup…I got 4 friends from Hawaii coming up and probably 4 of my friends that come once in a while just to tailgate! I think we should be at least 3 car loads…
November 2nd, 2011 at 8:12 pm
Would have preferred to keep Hagan, but agree with some of the comments in here that really we are talking about the 52nd/53rd roster spot so it is not a huge deal here.
What I am worried here is as great of a job as Hue was doing under Davis, he has too much control too soon for a coach. Hopefully he doesnt turn into a Gruden (tampa bay version) where he has too much power. This rarely works to have a coach with complete control over roster moves. Gruden was a very good coach when he didnt have roster control (under Davis and then when he inherited a Tampa roster). Hopefully Hue can prove to do both, once Gruden got to pick all his own guys he struggled and got fired.
Back to TJ…..it is concerning that no other team had interested in him. Baltimore has a pretty poor WR core and they didnt want him back.
November 2nd, 2011 at 8:13 pm
BTW: Has the releasing of Hagan been made official?
November 2nd, 2011 at 8:15 pm
Ok, sorry, my bad…it has been!
November 2nd, 2011 at 8:16 pm
HWNRDR,GOOD 2 HEAR.WILL TRY AND GET BY WITH BOTTLE OF “JUICE” TO PASS AROUND.
OTIS,TRY AND MAKE IT 2 D-LOT..
November 2nd, 2011 at 8:16 pm
I don’t think Tj not being picked up by another team is something we should be worried about since he is 34. If he was in his twenties then I would be worried. Palmer is still learning our system. He needs a receiver he can trust and who still has a season left in him. I like his nickname one of the bloggers on here gave him, Linus.
November 2nd, 2011 at 8:18 pm
Thanks Dirt, I will. I went by the ticket sellers recommendation after telling him what I was looking for. My seats are in beach ball throwing distance to his seats.
November 2nd, 2011 at 8:23 pm
Some juice? LOL…ok…but no problem if cannot…this is the once a year game that I go all out because my friends fly up to make the game. I’ll also have a little taste from home also…
November 2nd, 2011 at 8:24 pm
234.hwnrdr Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 8:03 pm
Well, anyways…Can’t wait to get back to Raider football…I hate bye weeks! Ugghhhh!
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My work output and attitude has suffered thorugh the bye and cheifs game….
looking forward to being Raider Drunk again !!
November 2nd, 2011 at 8:26 pm
Yeah, lets be real, the TJ move is small potatoes. Hue Jackson lives or dies as the raiders coach based on how good Palmer does. If Palmer gets back to his pro bowl level Hue will be around for quite some time and that could be a great thing if we team him up with a good GM.
His Curry deal is looking really good though. Watching the KC game Curry played a good game. Bringing Lito in was a good move as well. CJ was on scholarship, for 4.4 guy he sure got burned a lot and he pass interfere’d more than any corner I have ever seen on plays that don’t make sense. (5 yard pattern on third and long and he gets PI)
November 2nd, 2011 at 8:28 pm
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November 2nd, 2011 at 8:28 pm
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I dont know if you guys’ autotranslate makes sense of this job description, but I actually thinks about seeking it, could be interesting =)
problem with auto-translators is that they are just as “smart” as joey..(just saw a re-run of a friends episode)
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November 2nd, 2011 at 8:30 pm
I wouldn’t mind just “one” night with Brandy from Storage Wars!!
November 2nd, 2011 at 8:32 pm
Blackmamba_20 Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 8:24 pm
234.hwnrdr Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 8:03 pm
Well, anyways…Can’t wait to get back to Raider football…I hate bye weeks! Ugghhhh!
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My work output and attitude has suffered thorugh the bye and cheifs game….
looking forward to being Raider Drunk again !!
I hear ya! Can’t wait for Sunday!
November 2nd, 2011 at 8:36 pm
I also hate bye weeks but because of everything that has been going on this one didn’t bother me.
November 2nd, 2011 at 8:37 pm
Is it true Philip Rivers won this week’s Chiefs MVP ?
November 2nd, 2011 at 8:38 pm
r8eray Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 8:30 pm
I wouldn’t mind just “one” night with Brandy from Storage Wars!!
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LMAO!
November 2nd, 2011 at 8:39 pm
really anxious to see how we come out and play Denver…because of CP and because we got smashed last game.
I am a huge fan on Hue Jackson, but i disagree with the move to cut Hagan for Housh. This is because it sends the wrong message to the team. You cant tell me Schillens and Murphy have looked better then hagan or show more promise. Also, Hue is the head coach, you cant you words like ” production” and keep murphy and schillens
November 2nd, 2011 at 8:41 pm
in regards to Housh’s comments…STFU
theres a reason why 31 teams didnt look at your a$$, so be grateful and humble at the opportunity to play in the league…
winning cures all….So all this questioning of Hue doesnt matter….but dont get it twisted, if the raiders lose, there pointing the finger directly at coach Jackson
November 2nd, 2011 at 8:43 pm
By Bill Williamson
In his press briefing Wednesday, struggling Denver quarterback Tim Tebow said he is not offended when others in the league criticize him.
Thus, he won’t be offended by comments made by Raiders coach Hue Jackson on Wednesday. This is what Jackson said when asked about facing the struggling Tebow on Sunday in Oakland: “I hope he doesn’t get it right this week. I hope he continues to do what he’s being doing, keep it that way.”
Hey, he’s just being honest.
Jackson’s words came after some comments made by Detroit players after Tebow’s poor performance during the Broncos’ 45-10 loss to the Lions on Sunday.
“Honestly, I don’t really take offense to that,” Tebow said of the comments. “I’ll just try to get better from that game and improve and just continue to get better as a football player. You’re going to have people that praise you and people that criticize you and everything in between. If I listened to everything that you all say, my world would be so up and down. I’m grounded upon my faith, my family, and that’s what grounds me. Football is what I do for a living and what I do for fun. If I rode the roller coaster of what everybody says about me then my life would be a lot more hectic than what it is.”
Also Wednesday, Tebow reiterated that he is not interested in switching positions. That topic has (and likely will) come up from time to time. Some scouts have thought Tebow would make a better fullback or an H-back than a quarterback in the NFL. Still, Tebow says he’s not buying it.
“I don’t think so,” Tebow said. “This has been my dream since I was a little boy to be a quarterback, and I’m going to continue to get better as a quarterback and play quarterback, and be the best quarterback I can be for this team.”
Jackson just hopes it doesn’t happen Sunday in Oakland.
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Thanks Steve!
Oh wait…….Bill!
November 2nd, 2011 at 8:45 pm
Well, the good thing is, we’ll have a sensible Mark Davis making the ultimate decision as to Hue’s fate.
November 2nd, 2011 at 8:45 pm
I don’t think our WR’s will take Linus’s comments the wrong way. One of the bloggers on this site mentioned he is more of a ra ra guy than locker room trouble maker. I like his attitude. I think he was not taken by other teams because of his age.
November 2nd, 2011 at 8:48 pm
DaTruth, no way you cut a talent like Murphy due to injury. I would say the same about Chaz but he is hurt every year so eventually you have to cut the cord on a guy if he can’t stay healthy. However Chaz is making 7th rd pick money as well.
I personally don’t see why we are keeping 4 TE’s and 2 FB’s on the roster.
November 2nd, 2011 at 8:51 pm
This game is kind of hard to predict a score because it is unknown in McFadden will play and I don’t know how sharp Palmer will be. I will go with the suposition that McFadden won’t play and Palmer will be somewhere between the not ready qb he was against KC and the qb we will be after he gets about six weeks under his belt. Tebow has not showed himself to be a capable qb so far, but he probably won’t be as horrible as he was a week ago.
Raiders 24 denver 14
November 2nd, 2011 at 8:53 pm
We are keeping four TE’s because Boss is concussion prone and maybe Hue plans on replacing Myers with one of the rookie TE’s next season. Reece is coming off injury and Tonga had some great blocks.
November 2nd, 2011 at 8:54 pm
I personally don’t see why we are keeping 4 TE’s and 2 FB’s on the roster.
I think probably as much for special teams as anything.
November 2nd, 2011 at 8:55 pm
I say rest DMAC. We have a short week against the Chargers and if we can’t beat the Broncos at home with Bush, we are in trouble.
November 2nd, 2011 at 8:55 pm
#267 as they say, you’re guess is as good as mine.
November 2nd, 2011 at 8:56 pm
K_cin Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 8:48 pm
DaTruth, no way you cut a talent like Murphy due to injury. I would say the same about Chaz but he is hurt every year so eventually you have to cut the cord on a guy if he can’t stay healthy. However Chaz is making 7th rd pick money as well.
I personally don’t see why we are keeping 4 TE’s and 2 FB’s on the roster.
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I would agree with you about Murphy, except after the injury he hasent shown much/anyhting
In fact he is starting to remind me of Jonnie lee higgins, in that he seems afraid to attack the ball, esp in crowded areas. From what ive seen from Murphy, he isnt mentally there…
and in regards to Chaz’s money, the difference between him and hagan isnt that large
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:01 pm
Sullivan has more faith in mark than in al davis. .. your a complete Jack ass MR… you don’t know sh!t… no one agrees with anything you say..complete loser! !
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:03 pm
Wow!
First bad move by Huey IMO by waiving Hagan with the Hooker signing.
They should have cut someone else.
Hagan is younger than Hooker and has been with the team longer and knows the play book better. He has upside still.
I don’t agree with the move to waive Hagan at all!!
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:04 pm
T.j. Hooker? ? OK. .Lmao. .
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:05 pm
When it comes to general management of a modern day NFL team, I’d have more faith in Bucky Larson than I would Al Davis.
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:05 pm
Bush and Jones need to run hard in this game and hit the freakin holes hard!
Bush hasn’t been hitting the holes hard and he has been running to freakin high!
He needs to run lower and with more power!!
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:06 pm
I wrote on Monday about the Raiders offense changing and readjusting to fit Palmer’s game. And, now HueJax is spinning left and right. All that the Raiders can hope is that he makes something right. He is not only a rookie coach he is a novice GM. That’s a pretty inflated head out there, Raider Nation beware!
What’s his plan? Is it too sign all the players he’s known for ten years?
If indeed Mr. Davis was against signing TJ there must have been a reason. Just watch. And, does this mean that Derek Hagan is out, now that TJ is in? Weren’t folks here in this blog, including Cork, who had Hagan on the top of the depth chart?
The main concern and focus for the Raiders offense must be DMac. Limping around on a protective boot and crutches doesn’t bode well for him or the Raiders. What happened? Wasn’t that injury a minor thing?
Without a healthy DMac, the Raiders offense will suffer. If HueJax is planning on making Palmer the main focus of the offense and change it’s character, throwing more than running, in my opinion it’s not the way to go.
I am sure that Bush can handle the load in DMac’s absence, but he doesn’t strike the fear that DMac puts on the defenses. And, Palmer is bound to turn the Raiders into last season’s Bungles. Look at them now with Andy Dalton. That’s what the Raiders and HueJax should do, build the bully for the long run with young studs, not build a deck from retreaded cards.
Without DMac, the defense better step it up and shut down the donkeys, no more excuses or let downs. The donkeys are trying to prove they can go places with Tim Teabag, the only place the donkeys need to go is down.
For the Raider Nation’s sake, I hope I’m totally wrong on HueJax, otherwise all that BS spinning won’t help him safe face.
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:06 pm
yeeeeeea Ghost !!
Hez always at his Pessimism best with anything raider
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:07 pm
Hooker better be that comfortable safety valve for Carson as a possession type that Hagan was for JC!!
They need to get the ball more to Ford, Moore, DHB and Jones in space dammit!
The O-Line needs to stay low and finish on blocks also!!
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:08 pm
Here’s more of my trademark pessimism, Mamba:
Raiders 24, Broncos 7
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:09 pm
DaTruth91 Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 8:56 pm
K_cin Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 8:48 pm
DaTruth, no way you cut a talent like Murphy due to injury. I would say the same about Chaz but he is hurt every year so eventually you have to cut the cord on a guy if he can’t stay healthy. However Chaz is making 7th rd pick money as well.
I personally don’t see why we are keeping 4 TE’s and 2 FB’s on the roster.
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I would agree with you about Murphy, except after the injury he hasent shown much/anyhting
In fact he is starting to remind me of Jonnie lee higgins, in that he seems afraid to attack the ball, esp in crowded areas. From what ive seen from Murphy, he isnt mentally there…
and in regards to Chaz’s money, the difference between him and hagan isnt that large
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Valid points but I’m giving Murphy the benefit of doubt because that last game was his first of any sort including preseason. So his play last game DOES NOT warrant being cut as of yet. Chaz’s upside is his price then talent but if his injury is major more then minor it may outweigh him being on the team at the end of the season you can’t cut the kid mid-season after sticking with him so long. I really liked what Derek Hagan did for us but he was expendable at the end of the day. I believe TJ was not anyone of the other 31 because of his age and that last drop. TJ seems like a classic Raider pick up that has alot to prove to various crowds.
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:09 pm
Just give Tawian the damn rock !!!
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:11 pm
As I said yesterday, considering how many right wing dildos we have here, who know they’ll be secretly rooting for Tebow to have a good game, it’s possible me and Kell will be the only ones thoroughly rooting for the Raiders Sunday!
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:12 pm
The same nutcase predicting Raiders winning was trolling earlier today saying tebow was going to beat us… he’s a complete nutcase. .
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:12 pm
They need to continue to POUND the rock with Bush and Jones and than that will open up the passing game for Carson.
We need to see the EFFECTIVE screen game come back as well with Bush, Jones and Ford, Moore!
The OLine needs to block though dammit!!
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:13 pm
I would not be surprised if we Resign Hagan when we find out Chaz is out for the year.
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:13 pm
OCCUPY PROTESTERS SENDING A MESSAGE….THIS IS ONLY THE BEGINNING!!
I love it!!
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:14 pm
Hagan was that young big physical type who can make the tough catches and run routes.
BAD MOVE TO WAIVE HIM HUEY!!
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:15 pm
GhostRaider,
If you’re not smart enough to detect when someone is posting under someone else’s name, I can’t help you. Everyone here with an IQ of over 70 knows what I think of Tebow, and know what I would or would never say about him.
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:15 pm
279.Sullivan44 Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:08 pm
Here’s more of my trademark pessimism, Mamba:
Raiders 24, Broncos 7
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touché
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:15 pm
Blackmamba… Sullivan44: is what happens when nobody hugs you when your a child…. if anything, I think his mother dropped him. .. And then forgot about him… possibly even dropped kicked him..
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:17 pm
DKnight, they shut down the port. Ob@ma’s poll numbers are going up, too. MB doing some soul searching today?
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:17 pm
Taiwan Jones runs for 78yrds on 12 carries and 57 yrds rec on 5 catches
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:17 pm
lol
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:18 pm
286,I HATE IT,scumbags,you want trouble,it will find you! JACKASSES IMO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:18 pm
LOL… oh’ OK.. someone is pretending to be you… while your always pretending to be someone else…. LOL..
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:18 pm
GhostRaider, we’re quite certain you came from a happy home. You just wear it on your sleeve.
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:19 pm
Hey, I’m not complaining. Just telling you that if you’re not smart enough to know what I would or wouldn’t say regarding Tim Tebow, like everyone else is, then I can’t help you. Argue with shadows.
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:19 pm
292.StayinBlack Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:17 pm
Taiwan Jones runs for 78yrds on 12 carries and 57 yrds rec on 5 catches
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Lets hope they give him enough touches, i want to see him rip it off and go 50 -60 yards.. You see the block he laid on jacobys KR TD, he was damn flying from a stand still
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:20 pm
Hendu, fan of the 1%, I see?
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:21 pm
remind me of sully,mr,mrs,abp,cbs,nbc,etc
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:22 pm
Blackmamba_20 Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:19 pm
292.StayinBlack Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:17 pm
Taiwan Jones runs for 78yrds on 12 carries and 57 yrds rec on 5 catches
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Lets hope they give him enough touches, i want to see him rip it off and go 50 -60 yards.. You see the block he laid on jacobys KR TD, he was damn flying from a stand still
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I’m hoping for a Rookie of the week performance to be honest but something as doable as my prediction above will be more than respectful.
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:24 pm
Dude.. .. the minute you start agitating… and slamming one dead al davis. . I will slam and lambast you.. you little weasele..loser. . .. I don’t know what you want to accomplish by slamming him… you have absolutely no fricken class. .none.
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:25 pm
So would it be smart to start (FFL) him this week?
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:25 pm
I think we need to remember that we are starting Sunday with a new quarterback and new running backs.
We could be a little rusty for a while.
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:26 pm
Over Javon Ringer?
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:26 pm
Not agitating. Expressing my views on this football team, which is kind of what this comments section is for. And, I’ll chime in on a few other topics that others here frequently discuss as well. Tell me, who’s doing all of the agitating tonight? Or, at least attempting to? You’re on a rampage. Settle down.
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:26 pm
301.StayinBlack Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:22 pm
Blackmamba_20 Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:19 pm
292.StayinBlack Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:17 pm
Taiwan Jones runs for 78yrds on 12 carries and 57 yrds rec on 5 catches
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Lets hope they give him enough touches, i want to see him rip it off and go 50 -60 yards.. You see the block he laid on jacobys KR TD, he was damn flying from a stand still
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I’m hoping for a Rookie of the week performance to be honest but something as doable as my prediction above will be more than respectful.
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Man rookie of the week would be dooooope, Having Dmac out is guts me so Taiwan could really feel that gap for me vs donks.. Your prediction would be more than satisfying
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:27 pm
BTW, it’s funny you could have such a problem with agitators, while being a fan of Al Davis. There wasn’t a bigger agitator in pro sports.
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:29 pm
OK.. well. . Answer me then.. al davis is dead… why continue badgering him..?? Tell me. .?? Why.. what does it accomplish..?? Everyone knows your idiotic posts and how you agitate.. IRS no secret…
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:31 pm
I’m not badgering Al Davis. I’m pointing out the contrast between current management and old management. Let’s pretend Al Davis never existed, and that our previous GM was, say, the man on the moon. I’m glad the man on the moon isn’t in charge anymore, and glad the team is in more sensible hands. Is that better?
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:32 pm
I feel sorry for you man.. your biggest enemy died.. and you don’t know how to handle it.. .. was al davis your father??? Did he leave you at a buss stop when you were 8 yrs old?? Why the hatred?? Your a sad person man.. pathetic..
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:32 pm
agreed, i wasnt a huge fan of Davis either, but now that he’s passed my opinions of him, dont matter anymore, just let it be.
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:33 pm
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Hi Everyone. I am new here and love this blog. The Raiders are my favorite team. You are going to hear a lot fom me because I love my Raiders and I know Raider ball. I sure hope the Raiders can keep the nasty mean football team in Oakland and get back into the playoffs where they belong and take back their place atop the NFL.
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:36 pm
Al Davis wasn’t my enemy, Ghost. Get a grip. I never even met him. I’m merely a Raider fan, who was critical of the previous management, and am relieved with the new management. You’re the one who needs to let it go.
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:36 pm
My favorite day was when Al Davis (my God rest his soul) proclaimed that “this is the Raiders finest hour” as he held the Lombardi after the Raiders just got done beating the asses of the Washington Redskins, 38-9. What a woderful day.
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:38 pm
Marader. .. I hope Sullivan44 can learn from you.. this Buy is obsessed. .. even more since Davis’s passing… he wont let go..
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:38 pm
I liked it when the Raiders beat the Eagles in the Super Bowl.
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:39 pm
Marader,
If it helps your sensibilities, I just won’t say his name, then. Let’s say, our previous GM was Barney, the purple dinosaur. Better? Not as touchy about that? And let’s just say, Barney wasn’t a good GM. Was at one time (prehistoric times), but wasn’t at the time of his departure. Now, I think we have a better GM than Barney the purple dinosaur. Now, that wasn’t so bad, was it? Everyone, sing along now: I love you. You love me…
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:39 pm
how are you relieved with the new management?…I think Davis is playing a dangerous game letting Hue off the leash…Im not saying i hate the moves Hue has made.It just seems no one knows what the hell is going and just let Hue take over.
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:39 pm
286. DKnight007 Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:13 pm
OCCUPY PROTESTERS SENDING A MESSAGE….THIS IS ONLY THE BEGINNING!!
I love it!!
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I am a hard working bay area native. I have more than earned my share. My name is on the wall. I bleed silver and black. I pride myself on not asking for help from anybody including my family. I have been unemployed for as long as 8 months at a time. I did collect some unemployment, which I paid into. I vote republican which = less government, lower taxes, strong defense.
In America if one chooses to live a life of debauchery I shouldn’t have to pay for it…And for those less fortunate there are plenty on nonprofit organizations one can seek out. Feel free to donate. Not to mention our tax dollars already fund many social program on the federal, state and local levels. As for the rest of the world…our government already gives more than any country on the plant, yes you guessed it, paid for with our tax dollars…if you pay taxes. Vote for what is right, not for what you feel. Raider Nation!
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:41 pm
No, not obsessed. Responding to one’s mere criticism by calling them “obsessed” is a cop out. I don’t think you even know what obsessed means. Of course, you clearly don’t know what criticism means, either. That’s the mindset for borderline personalities like yours. Either each person you interact with is in your bunker, or not. And, THAT is sad. Not criticizing a football team’s management.
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:41 pm
Sullivan, isnt that what you libtards preach, everyone loving everyone, and not offending anyone?
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:42 pm
Kirk Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:25 pm
I think we need to remember that we are starting Sunday with a new quarterback and new running backs.
We could be a little rusty for a while.
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As long as the O-line can do their job, protect and open holes, we’ll be just fine. Fck those mules anyway.
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:42 pm
Sullivan44.. you know you can’t let it go man.. stop lying bro.. a day doesn’t go by… your dumb agitating posts don’t normally bother me… but when you start ripping into al davis just a few weeks after his death. . I have to call you out on it..
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:42 pm
Simon, well said
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:43 pm
marader508 Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:39 pm
how are you relieved with the new management?
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Barney the purple dinosaur, our previous GM, made a lot of irrational decisions in his final 25 years or so. He traded Jon Gruden away when the team was one of the hottest in the league. He ran Kiffin out as soon as Kiffin started to get control of the locker room. And, imo, Barney would have eventually soured on Hue Jackson’s aggressive personality, and probably gotten rid of him when we needed him most. With new management, I’m relieved to know that Hue Jackson’s status here is in sensible hands.
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:43 pm
Bowser Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:38 pm
I liked it when the Raiders beat the Eagles in the Super Bowl.
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I liked it when the Raiders got beat in Super Bowl 37.
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:44 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:43 pm
Bowser Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:38 pm
I liked it when the Raiders beat the Eagles in the Super Bowl.
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I liked it when the Raiders got beat in Super Bowl 37.
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Why?
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:45 pm
because he’s really a Queefs fan
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:45 pm
Simon, there’s nothing wrong with asking for help. You’re equating one with his hand out to one who steals. And, as independent minded as you might think you are, you were brainwashed into such a belief by the greedy “1″.
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:46 pm
Car Wash Dude Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:44 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:43 pm
Bowser Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:38 pm
I liked it when the Raiders beat the Eagles in the Super Bowl.
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I liked it when the Raiders got beat in Super Bowl 37.
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Why?
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Cause he’s a douchebag!
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:46 pm
GhostRaider,
I’ll prove to you right now that I can “let it go”. This is my last response to you tonight.
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:47 pm
Marader. .. I knew al Davis’s death would mean some good things, but also some bad things… some thought that the minute al davis left the Raiders. .. we would magically be much better.. I don’t think that’s the case at all. I like hue… but I also think someone needs to check him…
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:47 pm
people mooching off the government their entire life, is not asking for help.Its called being a freeloader…
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:47 pm
I actually hated watching Super Bowl 37. It was awful seeing us get pounced like that, with our coach on the wrong sideline.
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:48 pm
333
well i will say this ghost the Def has magically gotten better when Al died…
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:49 pm
Thanks sully… you can continue agitating tomorrow. Ill be here loser!! ..don’t forget to take your medication. . G’nite..
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:49 pm
327.Sullivan44 Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:43 pm
Bowser Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:38 pm
I liked it when the Raiders beat the Eagles in the Super Bowl.
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I liked it when the Raiders got beat in Super Bowl 37.
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Why would u say that? Are u for real?
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:49 pm
Marader,
There’s only so much one can “mooch” off of the government. If you stepped outside of your sheltered world, you would know that government programs don’t provide much for each individual. It’s not a fun life. If you’re envisioning people literally living lavish lives on the government dime, you’re thinking of the wealthy that have received government bailouts.
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:50 pm
marader508 Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:48 pm
333
well i will say this ghost the Def has magically gotten better when Al died…
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LET IT GO!
LET IT GO!
YOU’RE SO OBSESSED WITH AL!
YOU’RE OBSESSED!
LET IT GO!!!!!
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:52 pm
Regardless of what my little clone says, I was actually horribly upset when we lost Super Bowl 37. It killed me to see our coach on the wrong sideline, just kicking our asses all over the field.
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:52 pm
320,Simon,my blood pressure was up,after youre post,down!God Bless us ALL,even sully
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:52 pm
Marader… yea the blitzing has really helped.. no doubt about that… but I don’t like the power moves by hue… too bad john Madden or a GM is not checking him… hopefully he knows exactly what he’s doing…
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:53 pm
Ok, i just read post # 335.
A lot of hacking going on around here.
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:53 pm
Sheltered world?…im a struggling small business owner living in a crap city in ultra liberal MASS…I see more than you know, Gov programs dont help anyone but the politicians come vote time…And i see plenty of people just living off the gov , while i work hard to survive…It is what is…this is a Raider blog not Huffington post
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:54 pm
Later ghost, catch you fellas up tmrw..hopefully cockran got some practice news
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:54 pm
MaRader,
you’re living in a sheltered world, with your head square up your ass, if you think the poor are living pleasant lives on the government dime.
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:59 pm
I wouldn’t doubt that Jerry Jones isn’t putting the message in Mark’s ear to keep an eye on what Hue’s doing.
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:59 pm
For all those worried about giving up on Hagan’s youth for Housh’s age, we’re talking about this season only. If you really think Hagan has such tremendous upside and are concerned with losing him for seasons beyond this, I’m sure that he’ll be sitting there on the free agent market again for cheap in the coming off-season.
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:59 pm
you want to see poor?…go to Africa where the poor get killed and taking advantage of by the warlords…and where some light rhino dung on fire to stay warm…to be poor in america is a hell of alot better than life in other parts of the world…Many choose to collect a government check , rather than go find work…
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:02 pm
Well, nonetheless, I think Mark Davis is more sensible than Al Davis ( I can say his name again, now that the spaz is gone), and I know whatever decision Mark makes, it will be in the best interest of the football team, not his own ego. With Al, you never knew.
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:02 pm
Djhonny…. what if mark davis wants to spruce the team up!! That could mean.. mark is probably getting ready to sell the team.?? Who knows??? We definitely need a GM next season…
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:02 pm
MaRader,
You’ve never been poor, in America or in Africa, so don’t speak for them.
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:02 pm
i was a huge hagan fan , but this move doesnt hurt…hagan has not done much lately…losing his 1 – 2 catches a game is not gonna break our season
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:03 pm
Sullivan44.. wrong you lil bittch!! Loser..
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:03 pm
ok pal, dont talk like you know…im still considered poor , dumbass
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:04 pm
bailouts like the one given to the GM by a liberal president and a liberal congress?
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:04 pm
Agitate. Agitate.. agitate.. LOL..
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:05 pm
Ghost,
I wondered that myself.
Winning cures everything. Merchandise sales go up, ticket sales, etc.
It’ll be interesting to see how everything plays out.
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:05 pm
liberal elites need to agitate , thats what they do
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:06 pm
Can’t go one day without talking sh!t about al davis! ! Can’t you!! Loser!!
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:06 pm
Marader,
get real. I can tell by your comments about welfare that you’re not poor. Your sheltered view of poor life, be it in America or abroad, may as well be that of Mitt Romneys. You don’t know anything, other than what the 1% tell you to know. That’s what I know.
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:07 pm
I just did a seance with Al.
Yes, he admitted that he might have been stuck in his old ways, i.e. schemes etc. but he is extrmely disappointed in Hue for cutting Hagan for Housh. “If I thought he had anything left I would have signed him this summer. Hagan is younger and still has the legs and can get open without dropping the ball. Plus he is a good special teams contributor.”
This is becoming a Bengal good ole boys club. “As you can see from my last drafts including DHB, I can still identify talent.”
So ladies and gentlemen; we had better get a GM in quickly to rein in this self absorbed, wild man now controlling our Raiders.
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:07 pm
Conservative elites don’t agitate?
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:08 pm
To GM, not to the GM.
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:08 pm
Djhonny…. If the davis family does sell the team… I hope they would sell it to someone like john Madden. . He’s old too but that would be cool!! IMO.
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:09 pm
Who has better career numbers, Housh or Hagan?
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:11 pm
350,Marader508,well said!Hope I never live that world,should say WE!My niece teaches in Latin America,nexttrip,Haiti,later!
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:13 pm
Rosee. …. can you please ask al if he can come over sullys house at night and sit on his face.. .. maybe scare the life outta him.. maybe that way hell leave al alone..
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:13 pm
MaRader doesn’t know anything about any world other than his sheltered suburban world. He made that obvious with is first comment about welfare.
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:15 pm
Agitate. Agitate.. agitate…
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:17 pm
What I don’t understand is that Hagan was very productive when he was targetd as a WR. Given the opportunity, he could have been the best on the team, but seemed to be given the ‘cold shoulder’ and thus the lack of production.
And it worries me Moore is not targetd more often, because he is a guy that needs the ball 7-10 times a game because not only is he a playmaker, he has the potential to be great.
But DHB is the project player so he gets all the balls. Granted he is making baby steps and now he’s getting better, but Moore and Hagan were the schit. Just do not get it. Those dudes are the playmakers………..Period!
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:20 pm
It’s funny how people are freakin’ about Hue going all Bengals on us. The dude left the Bengals 5 years ago people! This is his 3rd NFL team since he left them. But according to the vibe here, he’s been a secret Bengals ever since and has been quietly biding his time waiting for an opportunity to rebuild that massively successful (not!) team.
Get a clue! He was the WRs coach of that squad, so he knows Housh well. The same Housh that is also now on his 3rd team since leaving the Bengals, so he’s not really dyed orange and gold himself. The only actual Bengal connection was the acquisition of Carson Palmer. Can anyone on here tell me that there was a better QB on any team that was attainable through trade at the deadline? I think not. The fact that he came from the Bengals is meaningless.
Now if Hue suddenly makes a play to bring Rudi Johnson out of retirement to back up DMac and cuts Bush, only then will I believe there’s any sort of Bengals West movement going on.
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:20 pm
Speaking of reining people in, I wish a GM would have been here to rein Al in back in 2008. Hue’s made some risky moves, but nothing even close to the ridiculous, out of touch, and desperate moves Davis made that off-season. My goodness, that was embarrassing.
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:21 pm
Asso. … if I was going to cut anyone one for that dinosaur. . It would have been schilens. .. that dude can’t stay healthy… I’m sure the minute someone picked him up… he would have gotten hurt… he’s the Guy that had to go…not hagan..
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:21 pm
when i was growing up my single mom was on welfare for a lil’ bit… but eventually went to school and found work…welfare is ok when used like unemployment…but far too often , in heavy BLUE states like MA and CA , people just live off it their whole life…I struggle everyday , and but i continue to work hard and get by, with the hope my landscaping company can finally get to point where i am financially set..Dont act like yo know me , my life is none of your damn business, but if it changes your mind, that maybe some of us conservatives arent all rich and powerful, so be it.
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:22 pm
Please,RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:22 pm
Can’t let it go!! Just like I said..Lmao. .agitator. ..
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:23 pm
People could also call our ‘02 team the Oakland 49ers, with Rice and Garner being so pivotal, not to mention the overall passing offense being an offshoot of the ‘94 Niners offense. So, we’ve seen this before. Bottom line is, Palmer and Housh will not be in Bengals jerseys. They will be in silver and black.
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:24 pm
Really. I don’t think this organization can go on trying to do everything the way Al Davis would. We love Al, but he’s gone. It’s a new era.
Coaching decisions aren’t about people’s feelings. That may have been the biggest problem. On a winning team, It’s be the best at what you do, or be replaced by someone who is.
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:25 pm
yeah i remember back in 02 , while people were in a frenzy calling us AFC 49ers, and hating on Rice and Garner… but it worked out great…just relax people and let it play out
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:25 pm
MaRaider, Just think, when your mother was on welfare, there were people out there just like you calling her a moocher. And those jerks were just as clueless as you are today.
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:25 pm
376,Stay on this BLOG,we need ya,PERIOD
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:25 pm
Sullivan. And Sandy Koufax has better numbers than CC Sabathia. And your point is? Hagan is 27 years old. Hous isn’t.
This is starting to all come together. Al told me during the seance that he knew his time was limited. There was no way he would leave this team to Cableman. Al feels like Hue yessed him to death, figuratively. Now the real Hue comes out. He would really like Ron Wolf to consult McCloughan as to how to run this team. And for Amy to continue working on a deal to move back to Los
Angeles. “I never should have left there.” So my friends these are Al’s wishes from beyond. Final thought. “He gave up way too much for Palmer.” Mike Brown now saw that that new kid can play. He could have gotten away with a 2nd and maybe a third.” Good night now.
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:25 pm
Marader. . Your in a no win situation with that bafoon.. he’s a major troll… I guess you’ll find out soon enough… he’s a complete nutcase. .
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:26 pm
What I don’t understand is that Hagan was very productive when he was targetd as a WR. Given the opportunity, he could have been the best on the team, but seemed to be given the ‘cold shoulder’ and thus the lack of production.
And it worries me Moore is not targetd more often, because he is a guy that needs the ball 7-10 times a game because not only is he a playmaker, he has the potential to be great.
But DHB is the project player so he gets all the balls. Granted he is making baby steps and now he’s getting better, but Moore and Hagan were the schit. Just do not get it. Those dudes are the playmakers………..Period!
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You make it sound like every WR is open on every play and the QB is just playing favorites or following orders to focus on one player. The reality is, DHB is damn near uncoverable on that mid range stop route because the CB has to play off him or else get smoked deep.
Meanwhile, Moore, while looking like a world beater in camp and preseason for making great catches (which usually are required when a QB makes a bad throw or forces the ball into too tight coverage) can’t get as open against starting NFL DBs as he could against preseason scrubs. And Hagan only seems to be targeted in 3 and 4 WR sets when he’s getting covered by a nickel or dime back that typically doesn’t cover as well as a starting CB.
So maybe, just maybe, the reason Moore and Hagan are getting less catches than DHB is because they aren’t getting open as often. Hmmmm.
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:26 pm
And wasn’t our defense in ‘98 basically a bunch of former Saints, Eric Allen being a part of that bunch? This isn’t unusual.
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:30 pm
sully you obviously dont read my posts…i explained what a moocher was, but MSNBC has brainwashed you…you sh!t all over my real word story, for some left wing talking points the media tweets ya…
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:31 pm
# Simon Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:39 pm
286. DKnight007 Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:13 pm
OCCUPY PROTESTERS SENDING A MESSAGE….THIS IS ONLY THE BEGINNING!!
I love it!!
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I am a hard working bay area native. I have more than earned my share. My name is on the wall. I bleed silver and black. I pride myself on not asking for help from anybody including my family. I have been unemployed for as long as 8 months at a time. I did collect some unemployment, which I paid into. I vote republican which = less government, lower taxes, strong defense.
In America if one chooses to live a life of debauchery I shouldn’t have to pay for it…And for those less fortunate there are plenty on nonprofit organizations one can seek out. Feel free to donate. Not to mention our tax dollars already fund many social program on the federal, state and local levels. As for the rest of the world…our government already gives more than any country on the plant, yes you guessed it, paid for with our tax dollars…if you pay taxes. Vote for what is right, not for what you feel. Raider Nation!
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Corporate greed and big corporations and corruption is ruining this country.
Power to the PEOPLE and NOT to big corporate America!!
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:31 pm
I just want my Raiders to be good again. World Beaters, Ass Eaters. Poke’em where the sun don’t shine. Make’em limp home.
Cum’on HueJax, lets’ roll baby! Super Bowl or Bust!
Raiders 41
Jerk-offs 6
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:32 pm
Oh, of course, MaRaider.
Moochers are OTHER people on welfare, not your mother.
Look, no matter what hypocritical, b.s. stance you want to have on welfare, there’s no getting around the fact that insensitive, sheltered jerk offs like yourself were calling your mother a “moocher” when she drew from the system. There are people out there who believe there shouldn’t be any welfare at all, period. And, of course, you’re probably one of them, now that you’re fortunate enough to no longer need it.
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:32 pm
387,Whatever youre intent is,youre a moron,period,IMO
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:35 pm
# Sullivan44 Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:45 pm
Simon, there’s nothing wrong with asking for help. You’re equating one with his hand out to one who steals. And, as independent minded as you might think you are, you were brainwashed into such a belief by the greedy “1″.
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Just like what is happening with the Arab Spring.
Corporate GREEDY types better watch out because middle America is looking to take this country back from the evil corrupt elite who are ruining this country!!
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:36 pm
Are you kidding me? Welfare is great. Get paid to make babies!!!
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:36 pm
go back and read post 376, you dont even know what your saying…but if im such a jerk off…stop talking to me and troll on as usual
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:36 pm
The only difference between the poor and the rich of 2011 is the amount of money they take from the government.
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:36 pm
Middle America needs to take their country back and send a message to the greedy, corrupt corporations!!
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:38 pm
Middle America needs to take their country back and send a message to the greedy, corrupt politicians!!
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:39 pm
The corrupt greedy corporations want middle America to have to work to support their families and make sure they have to buy groceries and take their kids to school and keep them active in sports and arts programs.
They want middle America to be kept busy, because they will not have the time to revolt against them when they are busy with day to day life!
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:39 pm
Marader,
I know exactly what you’re saying.
Your mother was just using welfare temporarily while she went to school. doesn’t matter. There were still insensitive republican azzholes out there who would call her a moocher. The point is, everyone who’s against welfare seems to draw the line at what they’ve taken out. Ever notice that? Welfare’s ok for people using while they go to school…because of course that’s how your mother used it. But what about those rich kids who’ve never seen their parents draw from welfare? Know what they call your mom? MOOCHER.
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:40 pm
# marader508 Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:38 pm
Middle America needs to take their country back and send a message to the greedy, corrupt politicians!!
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Yup!
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:41 pm
388,Sully is a BIG MOOCH,thats why working people should be PISSED OFF,Raise youre hand up,mooch #1,lazy mf
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:41 pm
Raider Nation-Station
NOW!~ 11-03-11: THE SIGNING OF HOUSHMANDZADEH
There should be a potential boon signing the vet but could their be a darkside?
http://www.raidernationstation.com/exclusives
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F**K!!!!
I hope NOT!!!
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:41 pm
Marader,
what is “middle America”?
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:43 pm
I mean, you’re from Massachusetts. If “middle America” were to take their country back, it wouldn’t bode well for you, would it? Your “elite” east coast town would be reduced to piles of rubble, and our mom would have to go back to school and get on welfare again.
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:43 pm
How does this blog always end up talking politics when too much time passes between posts?
Oh, I know! It’s because of all the middle America conservatism that’s coming from the Ohio based Bengals movement into the strongly liberal leaning Bay Area home of the Raiders. It makes perfect sense.
What next? In influx of Tea Party lunatics following the Raiders players coming from teams in the southeast? Or is that why the one time Dolphin Hagan had to be let go to prevent more lunacy?
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:43 pm
388,Sully is a BIG MOOCH,thats why working people should be PISSED OFF,Raise youre hand up,mooch #1,lazy mf
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Thats the lie they want you to believe.
That way you focus on the “mooches” taking $700-$800 dollars a month from the Gov. right outa your paycheck right?
Meanwhile the ultra rich aren;t paying taxes, getting billions back and taking trillions in Corporate welfare.
WAKE UP, RISE UP
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:44 pm
Zymurge,
Ohio went to Ob@ma in the ‘08 election.
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:45 pm
Mr,its YOURE mid FINGER POINTING RIGHT AT YA,404
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:50 pm
BTW GOOGLE New Bedford MA , and then come tell me about my elite little town….Jack ass
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:50 pm
407,another mooch?
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:51 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 5:38 pm
Rob knows the game. Al tells Herrera something. Herrera puts it on the Raiders website. Rob reads it, repeats it several times throughout the day. Now THAT’S football knowledge!
Sullivan44 Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 5:39 pm
Uh, Jerry McDonald and Steve Corkran are columnists as well as reporters. A columnist offers opinions. That’s what they do.
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uh, yeah buddy, i do know the game. very well. i played it. i coach it. i have been right about the this team far more than you.
jerry and corkran have little agendas and grudges. they like to paint a picture. right now, they’re a little mad at hue b/c he has laughed at some of their questions and shown a small bit of disdain for their rather stupid questions sometimes. smalltime reporters/columnists like to feel they are something important. they sometimes get treated like amateurs by the pros, which of course, they are. many of them never played. almost none of them have any deep sports knowledge. when they’re dismissed or have their questions brushed off, they get little power trips.
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:57 pm
i think sullivan has finally cracked. we all knew he was nuts. we knew he posted under various aliases, all w/ slightly different “personalities”. but now he claims there 2 different sullivan44’s. and he argues w/ himself. are we seeing the raiders blog version of “cybil”?
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:00 pm
Rob… yea… that poor Guy needs help bro.. he’s a real piece of work… always contradicting himself just to Agitate people. . He gets off on getting people hot and bothered by his insane posts. .
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:04 pm
ULtra hypocrisy these polititian say the 99% are lazy bums who should get a job but their policies have destroyed jobs and prevent more from being created.
“Get a job!”
WHAT JOB?!
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:04 pm
coming into the season, i thought 10-6 was a reasonable goal. i’m a little worried about getting 6 more wins. i can see us winning den, @minn, chi, and @mia. but it will be tuff winning @sd, @gb, det, @kc, and sd. we have to get 2 of those 5.
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:05 pm
Yo Rob,412,IMO,Jerry is a niner geek,Steve is neither,he says!Whatever,95.7 gives the RAIDERS PROPS,95.7 the GAME,ONLINE,STREAM IT,oh,I forgot,RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:06 pm
411. Another brain washed zombie?
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:06 pm
Rob.. if we don’t have #20 vs San Diego. . Were in trouble… those two games will be crucial. .
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:06 pm
it will suck if go into the final week at 9-6, needing to beat san diego. they’re not all that good, but they have been pretty good for awhile. i’m hoping we can snag wins @ sd and against det, plus the 4 we should win. that would make us 10-4 going into the last 2 games.
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:08 pm
That RNS article says the Housh additon may be because our run game is in trouble. ie Bush and DMC could be dinged and DMC could be more hurt than let on
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:09 pm
dang Rob, 10-4? Think we’re going on a 6-1 run? That’s Packers territory.
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:09 pm
i think dmc is getting the kid gloves this week, so he’ll be ready for sd. i hate to be too careful w/ denver, but it does make sense. i have to be somewhat concerned w/o dmc, and w/ a new qb, no matter who we’re playing, especially w/ the last game still in our minds. but i do think our offense will move w/ bush/taiwan and palmer/dhb/tj. the defense needs to come up strong and not let the broncos stay around for tebow heroics. they can run the ball. a nice return for td by ford would be great.
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:12 pm
The more babies I make, the more free money I get. It’s a great deal for me, really. Don’t have to work, can sit at home and watch soap operas while my little ghetto bastards play the PS3 thing.
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:13 pm
418,YUP,and PROUD OF IT,MORON,so glad to FLUSH you OUT,JA
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:13 pm
I LOVE WELFARE!
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:13 pm
# GoodOle00 Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:43 pm
388,Sully is a BIG MOOCH,thats why working people should be PISSED OFF,Raise youre hand up,mooch #1,lazy mf
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Thats the lie they want you to believe.
That way you focus on the “mooches” taking $700-$800 dollars a month from the Gov. right outa your paycheck right?
Meanwhile the ultra rich aren;t paying taxes, getting billions back and taking trillions in Corporate welfare.
WAKE UP, RISE UP
^^^^^^^^^^
Yup! Time to rise up against corporate and political greed and corruption in this country!!
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:14 pm
DMC is not playing this week.
Time for Bush, but more importantly time to unleash TAIWAN JONES!!
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:19 pm
Alex7 Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:09 pm
dang Rob, 10-4? Think we’re going on a 6-1 run? That’s Packers territory.
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as i said, i’m concerned. it’s likely we will be 9-6 going into the last week. but i hope the team starts to roll and we can win @ sd and at home against the lions. hey, if we’re good, then we should be able to do it.
as for gb, they are a little bit of a mirage. they’re getting mad props from everyone but they don’t run the ball that well, and they are horrible against the pass. 31st overall i believe.
so who’s the best teams in the nfl?
well, these are the teams w/ top 15 offenses AND defenses:
phi (#1/#11)
sd (#6/#6)
hou (#7/#3)
dal (#8/#9)
pit (#9/#2)
det (#13/#12)
bal (#14/#1)
my feeling is the best team in football is pittsburgh. houston is sneaky-good too.
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:25 pm
Sullie – keep fightin’ for me. I like free money.
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:26 pm
Like a lot of Raider Nation, I thought Hagen did a heck of a job in training camp and definitely earned his status on the team. I wish he gotten more opportunities. This year, he shown more than Louis Murphy and was just as good as Schilens. Palmer only had less than a half with our current WR corps. About two weeks of practice with them, and some how, Coach Jackson felt TJ Hoshyourmama is a better WR for this team. I think we should give him the benifit of a doubt and see how this plays out.
Let’s give TJ a new clean slate as a Raider and stop the whining about what he did in Seattle, Cincy or Baltimore.
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:34 pm
431.
“Boller, Palmer and even Oaklands entire passing scheme was exposed by Kansas City.
Without the break away threat of Darren McFadden in the backfield, the Raiders over simplified, same routes on both sides of the field pass patterns were picked apart for points and led to a humiliating loss.
Of course Palmer should be better with a few more practices under his belt but the addition of Houshmendzadeh should allow the Raiders to run those chain moving, mid field patterns the Raiders young and under inexperienced Wide Receivers, for whatever reason, have not.”
http://www.raidernationstation.com/exclusives
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Our rooks aren’t capable of getting open unless they are our run game is cranked up. TJ seems like a better, proven option in the slot than Hagan I guess.
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:39 pm
Whats up my fellow Raiders fans and Lakers (ghost,mamba,Dakota) fans .. Having a good night??
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:40 pm
I don’t care how good that dinosaur. . Doucheyourmomma… next season… I want him gone… too fricken old!! … and I don’t want to see that clown acting the fool here either.. Chad ochocinco…they had their time… we need a top notch wide receiver here. .. and Its not either of those two guys… housh is here… that’s fine. .. hopefully he does well.. but for the remainder of this season only..
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:40 pm
Code black
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:41 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:39 pm
Whats up
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My welfare check whenever I have a new baby.
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:42 pm
Ghostraiders Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:40 pm
I don’t care how good that dinosaur. . Doucheyourmomma… next season… I want him gone… too fricken old!! … and I don’t want to see that clown acting the fool here either.. Chad ochocinco…they had their time… we need a top notch wide receiver here. .. and Its not either of those two guys… housh is here… that’s fine. .. hopefully he does well.. but for the remainder of this season only..
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Whats good bro? .. Yeah no way we will sign Tj back unless he does a good Jon receiving our becomes the best wr mentor in the world …
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:42 pm
Mcf20.. what’s up bro.. who’s your NFL lick this weekend.. I like Buffalo……. vs jets.
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:42 pm
CODE BLACK!!!
Ghost – not a Housh fan?
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:43 pm
Who do you have this week… I need a lock bro..
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:43 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:41 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:39 pm
Whats up
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My welfare check whenever I have a new baby.
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Oh congrats TSR . Is it a boy or a girl..
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:46 pm
Nah, not yet Mcfadden20. Just playing along with the posts from the Momma character.
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:47 pm
Tennessee , st Louis and Cleveland all against The spread pick any of Three ur good to go..
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:47 pm
Tsr. .. I’m OK with him.. but I understand we tried getting him in Oakland 3 yrs ago. . An hE decided on Seattle. . So screw him… now he’s old and probably washed up.. And now GE wants in… nobody was knocking on his door.. no othervnfl team wanted him… I hope he does well… but no I’m not a big fan of his or ochocinco…
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:48 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:46 pm
Nah, not yet Mcfadden20. Just playing along with the posts from the Momma character.
—- oh okay lol should have figured that out ..
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:49 pm
Mcf20. .. do you know the spread on the Buffalo game? ? Vs NY
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:50 pm
Giants should cover+8.5 against patriots ..
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:51 pm
I can’t believe giants are that much underdogs… damn..
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:51 pm
Yah buffalo by -1.5, should pick Jets … I think their comin off bye week..
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:52 pm
Who does Tennessee play..
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:53 pm
Yah I can’t either , can you believe the Bears are also 9 point under dogs against eagles ? I don’t know thR eagles might be getting hot but Chicago is not a bad team either .. Better to stay away from that game but should def pick Giants ATS
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:53 pm
Mcf20. .. Buffalo plays really good at home man.. I like Buffalo. .
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:53 pm
Can’t say that I was a fan of the move myself, initially. But I’m gonna have to trust Hue on this one. While he let the cat out of the bag that Davis didn’t want to sign him during camp, it’s not all that far fetched of a move from an Al Davis philosophical standpoint. We all know our history in signing older players and making it work.
I just hope the Niners and Pats missed something when assessing him, because they both passed on him and the Niners especially are in need of receivers. So, from that standpoint, I’m a little leery.
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:54 pm
Tennessee is hosting cincinatti
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:54 pm
They came thru for me last week.. 23-0 vs the redskins. . I’m riding them again..
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:55 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:45 pm
SnB
Yeah, I’m disapointed that Boller wasn’t better prepared for the KC game. I blame HueJax, and the media clowning for that.
Come on my man, Boller made poor decisions on all 3 INTs. You can’t blame Hue for those bad decisions on the field. Boller locks on a WR and throws it. Either that or he takes off running way to quickly.
Carson threw that terrible pick six, but his other INT bounced off a catchable ball by Moore and another INT was because of miscommunication on Palmer and Murphy. Murphy stopped, Palmer threw a post.
I will agree with you that Hue looks like he might need a boss. He definitely have implusive decision making. That can be dangerous for an acting GM\HC.
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:55 pm
Yah I know they been playing well at home but the weather forecast is 14 mph winds and showers so might be wet field and who ever could run better and stop the run should win ..
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:56 pm
Slip up by Hue, if you ask me. He should have just said “Hey, we discussed TJ in camp and decided against making the move at the time. As time has gone on, we’ve reassessed and determined that he’s a better fit for us right now”. End of story.
He has some things to learn in addressing the media.
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:57 pm
To be honest with you , buffalo has dropped off a little since their hot start , they just seemed to catch a right opponent at the right time..
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:57 pm
Tsr. .. I think al remembered him not wanting go play in Oakland. . Just like ochocinco turning us down for the Patsy’s. .. next season when the patriots release ochocinco he will be wanting to cone here… but I don’t want him.. he had his chance..
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:58 pm
I prolly stay away from that game but good luck to u though hope ur team comes through
November 3rd, 2011 at 12:00 am
How would you guys bet on the Raider game this weekend? Man, I’d love to see us blow them out but does this team have what it takes to blow a team out? Just haven’t seen it yet and Run DMC is out. Big blow. Don’t know how comfortable Palmer is. Hue says he’s ready but I take what Hue says in the media with a grain of salt.
November 3rd, 2011 at 12:01 am
Yeah, great point Ghost. You got Al pegged with that observation. Wouldn’t doubt it.
November 3rd, 2011 at 12:01 am
Mcf20. .. that game vs redskins was in Toronto. .. I think Buffalo wins… they killed the redskins… well see.. I’m putting my money on Buffalo. .. when they play in NY. .that’s another story…
November 3rd, 2011 at 12:01 am
well, NYG did almost lose to Miami, so…
November 3rd, 2011 at 12:02 am
The Giants got away with one against Miami.
November 3rd, 2011 at 12:03 am
Redskins were down their starting QB, RB, and #1 WR though. This is the biggest game of the year for Jets – division leader, bye week.
November 3rd, 2011 at 12:04 am
Tsr. .. I’m staying away from this raider game. . I’m going to the game… dmac is out… Palmer still learning the receivers. . Rain in the forecast. .. I don’t forsee an easy game.. hope I’m wrong. .
November 3rd, 2011 at 12:04 am
Call me stupid but I really think Colts will cover +7 against Falcons , can’t be blown out every game right sometimes you gotta lose heartbreakers … And I think Dolphins will either upset KC or cover plus +5 .. why? Because they almost beat the giants in NY and that e bronco receiver they have .. I forgot his name .. Will give smaller KC cornerbacks problems all game
Long ..
November 3rd, 2011 at 12:05 am
Tsr.. bills playing jets..
November 3rd, 2011 at 12:06 am
Thought about going to this one but man, that KC game still stings. Think I’ll watch this round from home.
November 3rd, 2011 at 12:07 am
Does seem like everyone keeps waiting for the Colts to upset someone, but honestly, the Falcons’ team is 14 points better than the Colts.
November 3rd, 2011 at 12:08 am
I really think 1-6 rams is the lock against 1-6 cardinals .. If they can hold Saints to less than 20 points then D should be no problem and their doing some good things on o side too …
November 3rd, 2011 at 12:08 am
Alex. .. I’m not sure. . But I think Buffalo us undefeated at home… am I right??
November 3rd, 2011 at 12:09 am
I’d take Buffalo at home. As for the bye, teams coming off a bye haven’t always fared too well this year.
November 3rd, 2011 at 12:10 am
Mcf20. .is that game I. St Louis. .I. like that one. .rams on a little roll.. maybe..
November 3rd, 2011 at 12:11 am
I really think 1-6 rams is the lock against 1-6 cardinals .. If they can hold Saints to less than 20 points then D should be no problem and their doing some good things on o side too …
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And Kolb is questionable. Kolb is pretty weak even when healthy, but he’s starting there for a reason. Boller could be an upgrade to the rest of the Cards QB depth!
November 3rd, 2011 at 12:12 am
Nah it’s in Arizona but it shouldn’t matter they are divisional foes …
November 3rd, 2011 at 12:13 am
That Buffalo crowd is always fired up… I think that the only team that has covered the spread in Buffalo has been the raiders..+3.5.. we lost 38-35… every other team hasn’t covered in Buffalo. .
November 3rd, 2011 at 12:15 am
Mcf20. .. yea bro… But I like picking home teams… that’s where I screwed up on Monday. . I should have taken k.c. I would be $350 richer.. LOL.. oh well..
November 3rd, 2011 at 12:16 am
LOL! Confessions of a Raider Hater…
http://www.denverpost.com/lunchspecial/ci_19248026
My favorite part is “It scarred my childhood.”
November 3rd, 2011 at 12:16 am
Yeah Kolb got some turf toe thing and it’s affecting him alot
November 3rd, 2011 at 12:20 am
Ghostraiders Says:
November 3rd, 2011 at 12:15 am
Mcf20. .. yea bro… But I like picking home teams… that’s where I screwed up on Monday. . I should have taken k.c. I would be $350 richer.. LOL.. oh well..
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Yeah , I have same problem too .lol but I really believe u should go with a team , who’s feeling confident against a team who’s confidence seems to b dropping …. Don’t forget to include Raiders in your parlay too…
November 3rd, 2011 at 12:23 am
F^ck donkeys,.
November 3rd, 2011 at 12:23 am
Mcf20. .. I thought about greenbay. ..chargers looked like they were in shock after that debacle in k.c..
November 3rd, 2011 at 12:25 am
Tsr. . I hope that dude suffers again this Sunday…lol
November 3rd, 2011 at 12:25 am
F^ck tebow too
November 3rd, 2011 at 12:26 am
I like Tennessee. .. they will bounce back…
November 3rd, 2011 at 12:28 am
I think tebow will be a fullback If he wants to play in the NFL.. he will never cut it as a qb… hopefully tyrell Pryor doesn’t end up as a wide receiver cause that would mean he sucked at qb as well..
November 3rd, 2011 at 12:30 am
Hey man Chargers are most likely gonna lose that game but there is really good chance that game might come to the wire and green bay kicks a FG to win as the time expires , but then they are the world champs , and their coming off a bye week while SD is coming off a A Monday night game so The packers might score 30 points in the second half alone against a tired D and ends up winning by 20+
November 3rd, 2011 at 12:30 am
Bed time guys.. have a g’nite..
November 3rd, 2011 at 12:31 am
What’s the spread on thatvgane.. Mcf20? Dobyou know.
November 3rd, 2011 at 12:32 am
who got steelers against Ravens?
November 3rd, 2011 at 12:32 am
Packers -5.5
November 3rd, 2011 at 12:33 am
Well. . We shall talk more. . Need a good lock man.. have a good nite man..
November 3rd, 2011 at 12:33 am
see ya ghost
November 3rd, 2011 at 12:34 am
I wouldn’t touch that game . But over /under is 50.5 , what do you think?
November 3rd, 2011 at 12:34 am
I like the Niners only -4 vs Redskins. Wash with backup QB, RB, and no #1 receiver now.
November 3rd, 2011 at 12:35 am
Alright ghost .. Gnite
November 3rd, 2011 at 12:36 am
Alex7 Says:
November 3rd, 2011 at 12:34 am
I like the Niners only -4 vs Redskins. Wash with backup QB, RB, and no #1 receiver now.
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Washington have gd D though , wouldn’t be surprised if its like 9-6 Niners or Redskins lol
November 3rd, 2011 at 12:38 am
Buffalo ran on them, I think 49ers can too, and Niners surprisingly are scoring 20+ on almost everyone, Philly and Dallas included.
November 3rd, 2011 at 12:39 am
Alot of over/ unders are looking like more sexy picks this week than ATS thing.. Packers at Chargers game is def going over 50.5
November 3rd, 2011 at 12:41 am
But buffalo played at home and is a really lethal O and niners are playing on the road .. N buffalo always had good field position yet they still only managed 23 points ?
November 3rd, 2011 at 12:43 am
I mean a team that didn’t score basically punted all game from their territorry and good buffalo only managed 2 tds and 3 Fgs with good field position all game long ..
November 3rd, 2011 at 12:44 am
Alex , you picking niners against the spread?
November 3rd, 2011 at 12:48 am
Alright I’m out nite nation
November 3rd, 2011 at 1:16 am
I did a Niners, Jets, Falcons parlay at a whopping $5.
November 3rd, 2011 at 1:37 am
Mr. Palmer is in the elite category history and capable of it at least.
November 3rd, 2011 at 1:59 am
Between the negativity on this blog and 95.7The Game all day,Raider Nation,you guys are really “stressing me out”
I had to go down to D.C. to listen to some revolutionary Hip Hop from IMMORTAL TECHNIQUE!!! Phew that did the trick for me…gotta refocus-excited to be coming to the Bay Area this weekend…more excited about going to the game.
Cmon RAIDER NATION,let’s refocus our energies into a more positive mindset about the future of our team.We all are a little nervous about Sunday and next Thursday
but hey,they can do this…they better do this!!!
ONE NATION,ONE AIM,ONE GOAL…JUST WIN BABY
November 3rd, 2011 at 2:42 am
Geezuz Qwaist I just saw that video with the Texas family judge and his wife, spanking their 16to daughter.. he should be fired, he obviously isnt capable of being a family judge.
November 3rd, 2011 at 4:56 am
I just did a seance with Al.
Yes, he admitted that he might have been stuck in his old ways, i.e. schemes etc. but he is extrmely disappointed in Hue for cutting Hagan for Housh. “If I thought he had anything left I would have signed him this summer. Hagan is younger and still has the legs and can get open without dropping the ball. Plus he is a good special teams contributor.”
This is becoming a Bengal good ole boys club. “As you can see from my last drafts including DHB, I can still identify talent.”
So ladies and gentlemen; we had better get a GM in quickly to rein in this self absorbed, wild man now controlling our Raiders.
November 3rd, 2011 at 4:57 am
This is starting to all come together. Al told me during the seance that he knew his time was limited. There was no way he would leave this team to Cableman. Al feels like Hue yessed him to death, figuratively. Now the real Hue comes out. He would really like Ron Wolf to consult McCloughan as to how to run this team. And for Amy to continue working on a deal to move back to Los
Angeles. “I never should have left there.” So my friends these are Al’s wishes from beyond. Final thought. “He gave up way too much for Palmer.” Mike Brown now saw that that new kid can play. He could have gotten away with a 2nd and maybe a third.”
November 3rd, 2011 at 5:35 am
So ladies and gentlemen; we had better get a GM in quickly to rein in this self absorbed, wild man now controlling our Raiders.
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You are an idiot.
November 3rd, 2011 at 5:41 am
Let’s all be honest though.
Keep it real.
Cut Hagan and then keep 4 TE’s!?
Something ain’t right.
Ausberry would’ve cleared waivers and been stashed on practice squad
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that’s why my boy DMAC is a semi-pro blogger!
November 3rd, 2011 at 5:45 am
Derek Hagan claimed off waivers by the Denver Broncos.
-Patrick Saunders (twitter)
November 3rd, 2011 at 5:54 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Hagan claimed by the Broncos? Why? Becuase they let all the others go? Anyways…oh well…
November 3rd, 2011 at 5:58 am
Hwnrdr,
the Donks carved WR Matthew Willis off the roster to make room.
It’s unknown whether he’ll challenge Royal & Thomas for the starting job opposite Decker …
November 3rd, 2011 at 6:04 am
Davis wanted the emphasis placed on younger receivers
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BCZ & ROG,
that’s why we didn’t sign Terrell Owens!
November 3rd, 2011 at 6:05 am
Oh well…more than likely, we won’t see Hagan til next year, if he makes it!
November 3rd, 2011 at 6:07 am
I don’t like this move at all. Signing TJ I don’t mind but cutting Hagan, our only other veteran WR?
Hue clearly doesn’t like Hagan for some reason, evident by the playing time he received after being the best WR in preseason.
Now I see that the mules picked him up! Al built this team for you Huey, don’t fvck it up!
November 3rd, 2011 at 6:11 am
Well, that’s what you get for cutting people mid season. Now watch those bugger heads know every play we try this Sunday.
I’m NOT happy about the Hagan cut, not at all!!
November 3rd, 2011 at 6:15 am
JUST A LITTLE WORRIED THE DEFENSE MAY BE A LITTLE GASED IN LATE 3RD AND 4TH QTR’S FROM CHASING TEBOW AROUND
November 3rd, 2011 at 6:16 am
“With the guys they have, they’re all fast,” Houshmandzadeh said, “but they don’t really have a guy who can work the middle of the field and can run routes. So I can bring that to the table.
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TJ has been here all of two days and says our other wides are afraid to cross the middle and don’t run crisp routes ???
TJ Housh needs to button his lips and start playing football imo
31 other teams passed on him for the vet minimum, first 8 weeks of this season.
November 3rd, 2011 at 6:20 am
WHAT DID HE SAY THAT WAS NOT TRUE ROCKSTAR ?GOOD MORNING 2 ALL BY THE WAY..
November 3rd, 2011 at 6:21 am
Like I said, if we lose 2 Division games at home in a row…Man, Hue…Anyways, F this…I still don’t think adding Hagan to their roster will make them signifigantly better…they have more problems! Stomp the DONKS!
November 3rd, 2011 at 6:22 am
Heyward-Bey is on pace for 62 receptions for 992 yards
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King Darrius will finish with AT LEAST 65 catches and 1,000 yards
print that. DHB = stud!
November 3rd, 2011 at 6:23 am
I think Ford runs one back, and Denarius Moore just may get there…as long as they block for him Sunday!
November 3rd, 2011 at 6:24 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
November 3rd, 2011 at 6:04 am
Davis wanted the emphasis placed on younger receivers
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BCZ & ROG,
that’s why we didn’t sign Terrell Owens!
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After the Moss and (can’t recall name of dude that played for Packers and Denver and then got his a$$ kicked in Vegas) debacles, Davis seemed to sour quite a bit on these veteran receiver types.
November 3rd, 2011 at 6:26 am
You guys don’t think Hagan knows our playbook? This is phuck ing huge – man what a bonehead move! If we loose Sunday this will be the tipping point as to why!
November 3rd, 2011 at 6:28 am
Yes, Hagan does know our play book…I just hope that Hue knows that too, and changes it up a bit! Wasn’t there changes made to accomodate Palmer though???? We shall see Sunday!
November 3rd, 2011 at 6:30 am
Morning Nation.
November 3rd, 2011 at 6:30 am
B-O-N-E-H-E-A-D move!!!
Hue been drinking too much of his own kool-aid
November 3rd, 2011 at 6:30 am
Neil! What’s up man? How’s things across the Atlantic?
November 3rd, 2011 at 6:31 am
After the Moss and (can’t recall name of dude that played for Packers and Denver and then got his a$$ kicked in Vegas) debacles, Davis seemed to sour quite a bit on these veteran receiver types.
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Javon Walker.
November 3rd, 2011 at 6:32 am
Morning Hwnrdr!
Very nice Autumn day over here.Yourself?
November 3rd, 2011 at 6:34 am
Its starting to cool down here, and with a 3 day weekend coming up (I took off Monday)…A Raider FN Win is a must!!!
November 3rd, 2011 at 6:35 am
Hagan was never gonna be a 100 catch guy like TJ was in his prime. He and Palmer combined for 112 catches one year. I will take half that production over Hagan’s unrealized potential.
They could have cut Brandon Myers or IR’d CJ37, but I will reserve judgement until season’s end. If TJ is a washed up old dude, Hue will have to answer for his boneheaded moves. But if he turns out like the Curry move which paid immediate dividends, then it was a brilliant move and step in the right direction. We got a former Pro Bowl type talent for a vet minimum.
This move will also free up DHB, Ford and Moore. Ford and Moore were struggling going accross the middle, now they can stick to the outside and use their speed.
November 3rd, 2011 at 6:35 am
Mornin’ Nation!
No word of a lie here: last night I had a dream that the Raiders won 61-0, sacked Tebow 15 times and DMac ran for over 200 yards. (I know he’s probably not playing, so let’s just substitute MBush in there)
November 3rd, 2011 at 6:37 am
Hue been drinking too much of his own kool-aid
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Hahaha
November 3rd, 2011 at 6:37 am
Hwnrdr,
Back to work on Sunday but at least it’s day shift so I’ll get to watch the game.
November 3rd, 2011 at 6:37 am
JAVON WALKER,DEANGELO HALL,GIBRIL WILSON..WHAT A 3 HEADED MONSTER THAT WAS.3 BIG REGGIE JACKSON SWINGS AND MISSES THOSE WHERE..
November 3rd, 2011 at 6:39 am
Will you guys PLEASE get off of Derek Hagan already. Seriously the guy had 11 catches in 7 games. This is just like how the apocalypse was coming because we got rid of Stevie Brown, some of you even wanted Stevie over Michael Huff… where is Stevie again?
November 3rd, 2011 at 6:39 am
I was surprised they cut Hagen.Why didn’t they IR Chaz or Murphy?
November 3rd, 2011 at 6:40 am
neilb Says:
November 3rd, 2011 at 6:39 am
I was surprised they cut Hagen.Why didn’t they IR Chaz or Murphy?
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Because neither one is hurt?
November 3rd, 2011 at 6:40 am
541.DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
November 3rd, 2011 at 6:37 am
JAVON WALKER,DEANGELO HALL,GIBRIL WILSON..WHAT A 3 HEADED MONSTER THAT WAS.3 BIG REGGIE JACKSON SWINGS AND MISSES THOSE WHERE..
I love the Reggie Jackson reference! LOL
540.neilb Says:
November 3rd, 2011 at 6:37 am
Hwnrdr,
Back to work on Sunday but at least it’s day shift so I’ll get to watch the game.
Good to hear!
November 3rd, 2011 at 6:41 am
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
November 3rd, 2011 at 6:37 am
JAVON WALKER,DEANGELO HALL,GIBRIL WILSON..WHAT A 3 HEADED MONSTER THAT WAS.3 BIG REGGIE JACKSON SWINGS AND MISSES THOSE WHERE..
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Don’t forget Kwame “the turnstile” Harris
November 3rd, 2011 at 6:41 am
544.SilverNBlackPA Says:
November 3rd, 2011 at 6:40 am
neilb Says:
November 3rd, 2011 at 6:39 am
I was surprised they cut Hagen.Why didn’t they IR Chaz or Murphy?
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Because neither one is hurt?
Chaz is…well…:)
November 3rd, 2011 at 6:43 am
Don’t forget Kwame “the turnstile” Harris
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Surprised Harris never got whiplash from turning his neck so much as he watched defensive ends run by him.
November 3rd, 2011 at 6:43 am
In all fairness to DeAngelo though…he told Al that he will NOT fit here because of the tight man coverage we run…and man, if someone flashes 16 million in front of you…however, well, I don’t need to say anything about Hall!
November 3rd, 2011 at 6:45 am
544.SilverNBlackPA Says:
November 3rd, 2011 at 6:40 am
neilb Says:
November 3rd, 2011 at 6:39 am
I was surprised they cut Hagen.Why didn’t they IR Chaz or Murphy?
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Because neither one is hurt?
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Not even a tiny little bit???
November 3rd, 2011 at 6:46 am
548.SilverNBlackPA Says:
November 3rd, 2011 at 6:43 am
Don’t forget Kwame “the turnstile” Harris
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Surprised Harris never got whiplash from turning his neck so much as he watched defensive ends run by him.
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In all fairness to Al, that was a Cable dumb@ss move
November 3rd, 2011 at 6:46 am
TJ has been here all of two days and says our other wides are afraid to cross the middle and don’t run crisp routes ???
TJ Housh needs to button his lips and start playing football imo
31 other teams passed on him for the vet minimum, first 8 weeks of this season.
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I think that comment is being twisted to sound like a shot at our WRs, as opposed to what it really was, which was TJ saying I bring a different skill set to this team to compliment what they have.
32 teams have passed on TO and you STILL want him. You guys just arent being objective here. TJ is an upgrade over Hagan PERIOD.
Hagan was cut before we installed the gameplan for the Broncos game, so it is unlikely that he will go there and just give them our playbook and they will just destroy us because of it. There is a code of ethics in the NFL, John Fox wouldn’t want our playbook before the game, he would rather lose than cheat.
November 3rd, 2011 at 6:48 am
I think that comment is being twisted to sound like a shot at our WRs, as opposed to what it really was, which was TJ saying I bring a different skill set to this team to compliment what they have.
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I agree, I think at worst it was a stupid way to phrase “They’re speed, field-stretching guys, I’m a possession receiver.”
November 3rd, 2011 at 6:50 am
Bcz24, I agree with you on the TJ comment but don’t think for a minute that Fox won’t be grilling Hagan for any info that will give him an edge.
November 3rd, 2011 at 6:56 am
ENUF ALREADY WITH TJ BLATHER…
MUCH MORE IMPORTANTLY…
SIGN BODDEN!
http://bostonherald.com/sports/football/patriots/view.bg?articleid=1376686&srvc=sports&position=2
WHAT IS GUNSLINGER JACKSON WAITING FOR, ESP IF GUTIERREZ IS RIGHT THAT CJ37 IS GOING IR.
DO IT…NOW!
November 3rd, 2011 at 6:58 am
Hagan came, put in the work , got paid , got dropped, Coach does TJ have the same agent too? I guess the the moral is great right now in the locker room, it’s a business , your friends won’t be around much! Tell Palmer to stop throwing rockets on purpose to make the young boys look bad! Yeah they should catch all passes with hands and not body but throwing a laser rocket on a five yard slant is stupid! No more gifts for your old boss Mike Brown also!
November 3rd, 2011 at 7:00 am
We had a bye week, he was NOT cut before the Donco game plan. I suppose if it was going to happen it should happen with the Doncos game, and not a good team. I just hate it!
November 3rd, 2011 at 7:02 am
554.Carl Weathers Says:
November 3rd, 2011 at 6:50 am
Bcz24, I agree with you on the TJ comment but don’t think for a minute that Fox won’t be grilling Hagan for any info that will give him an edge.
Exactly! Remember when Tom Jackson gave his story about Al Davis…Al told him to get outta here when he was a reporter because he used to be a Bronco…Tom said do you really think I will give that info out, and Al said, he if you was a Raider and covering the Broncos training camp, I tell ya to tell me what’s going on there…
So yeah, Fox is probably loving this right now!
November 3rd, 2011 at 7:06 am
The gameplan for the Donkeys was installed yesterday. Hagan was cut Tuesday.
November 3rd, 2011 at 7:12 am
Ya know it is kind of amusing to me. You come here to a Raider FAN site and you would think we were 0-7 and Armageddon was approaching.
Outside of here, most power rankings have us as the best in the west, ESPN’s fan poll had over 60% of the votes for us to win the West. The general concensus around the league is that things are looking up for us. But oh no. Not here. We cut marginal players for pro bowlers and the sky is falling
November 3rd, 2011 at 7:18 am
bcz24 Says:
November 3rd, 2011 at 7:12 am
Ya know it is kind of amusing to me. You come here to a Raider FAN site and you would think we were 0-7 and Armageddon was approaching.
Outside of here, most power rankings have us as the best in the west, ESPN’s fan poll had over 60% of the votes for us to win the West. The general concensus around the league is that things are looking up for us. But oh no. Not here. We cut marginal players for pro bowlers and the sky is falling
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Any given Sunday, we don’t need to do them any favors. TE-Blow or not.
After this last decade don’t ever doubt my fanaticism for the RAIDERS!!
November 3rd, 2011 at 7:19 am
Hagan to the Donks huh?
Bronco’s had the 2nd pick, so they were 2nd on waiver claims as well.
Guess everyone that said he wouldn’t get picked whiffed on that one.
Only 1 team passed on him on waivers!!!
November 3rd, 2011 at 7:21 am
Morning guys
hue is doing things his way now. He prolly would have done things this way of coach Davis would have allowed it.
We will see how this works. Guys have been saying let the coaches coach an have say so on personnel now it’s like that an that’s the way it is.
We just have to wait an see!!
November 3rd, 2011 at 7:22 am
If the Donks waived Matt Willis, as someone posted, to clear room for Hagan, than this wasn’t a one-week rental to get some info deal.
Willis has been a preseason phenom the last 2 years in Denver, and people had high hopes for him. Made a big catch at the end of the Dolphins game.
November 3rd, 2011 at 7:25 am
If hagan gets cut after the raider game then we know why they picked him up.
November 3rd, 2011 at 7:26 am
Any given Sunday…Our given Sunday has to be the rest of the year! Starting with the Donks at home!
November 3rd, 2011 at 7:29 am
The Hagan Warrior would have went over the middle if we would have through him the d@mn ball.
November 3rd, 2011 at 7:30 am
560.bcz24 Says:
November 3rd, 2011 at 7:12 am
Ya know it is kind of amusing to me. You come here to a Raider FAN site and you would think we were 0-7 and Armageddon was approaching.
Outside of here, most power rankings have us as the best in the west, ESPN’s fan poll had over 60% of the votes for us to win the West. The general concensus around the league is that things are looking up for us. But oh no. Not here. We cut marginal players for pro bowlers and the sky is falling
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I second that, I will never understand what the lovefest is all about for marginal never was players,
I can understand the complaints for letting Nnamdi and Miller go, but Hagan, Tonga, Sterling, Stevie…common ah?
November 3rd, 2011 at 7:33 am
I retract that, Miller and Nnamdi as well as Gallery wanted out and cost too much anyway..they haven’t set the world on fire since they left either
November 3rd, 2011 at 7:34 am
Bcz24 is ON POINT today, fellas.
November 3rd, 2011 at 7:34 am
The Hagan Warrior would have went over the middle if we would have through him the d@mn ball.
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You obviously arent understanding how important it was to give CP a receiver he has chemistry with until the comfort level builds with our other receivers.
November 3rd, 2011 at 7:35 am
JR77 Says:
November 3rd, 2011 at 7:33 am
I retract that, Miller and Nnamdi as well as Gallery wanted out and cost too much anyway..they haven’t set the world on fire since they left either
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To be fair to Nnamdi, he’s been misused by the Eagles for most of this season.
Why you’d take maybe the best press-man cover corner the league has seen since Primetime’s heyday and make him play zone, I will never understand.
I said to friends of mine who are fans of other teams who play zone, you better hope your team doesn’t sign him because you won’t be getting the elite player you think.
November 3rd, 2011 at 7:36 am
JR77 Says:
November 3rd, 2011 at 7:30 am
560.bcz24 Says:
November 3rd, 2011 at 7:12 am
Ya know it is kind of amusing to me. You come here to a Raider FAN site and you would think we were 0-7 and Armageddon was approaching.
Outside of here, most power rankings have us as the best in the west, ESPN’s fan poll had over 60% of the votes for us to win the West. The general concensus around the league is that things are looking up for us. But oh no. Not here. We cut marginal players for pro bowlers and the sky is falling
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I second that, I will never understand what the lovefest is all about for marginal never was players,
I can understand the complaints for letting Nnamdi and Miller go, but Hagan, Tonga, Sterling, Stevie…common ah?
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Well my complaint is not only we let a good player go, but what I’m really going on about it that the Doncos picked him up!
I can guarantee that he will give them as much info as possible to beat us. Grrrrrr!
November 3rd, 2011 at 7:38 am
Believe me I understand the fear of change, especially with how much change is happening so quickly. If you step back and look at these moves objectively they make sense. Yes Carson Palmer was expensive, BUT we couldn’t finish the season out with Boller (we all saw exactly why) and now we got him a receiver to ease the transition. Ndukwe is a clear upgrade over Boyd no matter how you slice it. Sheppard is a clear upgrade over Ron Parker (who never even dressed for a game). We are filling holes and getting better.
Drink some of the KoolAid fella’s it is mighty tasty about now.
November 3rd, 2011 at 7:38 am
I can guarantee that he will give them as much info as possible to beat us. Grrrrrr!
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No worries, I’m sure they’ll pick his brain, but there’s nothing he can tell them that they can’t discover watching film.
As someone said, the specific gameplan for a given week is installed on Wednesdays. Hagan was gone by then. At best he can give them some educated guesses.
November 3rd, 2011 at 7:39 am
I obviously know CP is a pro QB and he has to make adjustments, but we will see.
I get it! I just don’t see why you cut a guy like Hagan who can make the tough catches and don’t forget he also spent time working out with Palmer over the off season.
Chaz the glass, Muppet Murphy, or take your pick outside of the WR position should have hit the road.
oh well it is a done deal!
November 3rd, 2011 at 7:39 am
To be fair to Nnamdi, he’s been misused by the Eagles for most of this season.
Why you’d take maybe the best press-man cover corner the league has seen since Primetime’s heyday and make him play zone, I will never understand.
I said to friends of mine who are fans of other teams who play zone, you better hope your team doesn’t sign him because you won’t be getting the elite player you think.
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I think Castillo finally came around and started using Nnmadi, Asante and DRC in press man to man coverage a lot and lo and behold they shut down the cowboys big time
November 3rd, 2011 at 7:41 am
Well, to be fair, I think The Donks would have picked up any receiver that we would have let go for TJ…just a hunch
November 3rd, 2011 at 7:43 am
Well my complaint is not only we let a good player go, but what I’m really going on about it that the Doncos picked him up!
I can guarantee that he will give them as much info as possible to beat us. Grrrrrr!
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The Donks picked up dead weight, its not like they just got Tim Brown out there, they got bigger problems, tebow cant hit the side of bus, especially with the pressure our D will give him, dialing up blitzes all day, tebow will just fold by the 2nd quarter…as far as the game plan issue, it will not matter if Bush / taiwan run wild and all over down their throats, that should be the game plan Hue installs to begin with, wont matter whether they know it or not.
November 3rd, 2011 at 7:44 am
Chaz the glass, Muppet Murphy, or take your pick outside of the WR position should have hit the road.
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I still maintain they should’ve cut Ausberry because there’s no way they don’t sneak him through to the practice squad. Teams wouldn’t exactly be lining up to claim a raw rookie TE with 1 catch so far this season.
Ultimately, though, no big loss.
November 3rd, 2011 at 7:45 am
What’s great about Tebow’s inability to throw is that it’ll free Chucky B to send Huff and/or Branch on the blitz all day long.
November 3rd, 2011 at 7:46 am
DHB, Ford, Moore are still our future. Chaz, Murph and Hagan were ‘on the bubble’, the org has invested more in Chaz and Murph, and they are younger than Hagan. Hagan is a journeyman brought in here a few months ago. He was the obvious candidate to get cut.
November 3rd, 2011 at 7:46 am
Hwnrdr is right. The Donks would have grabbed Murphy or Chaz. And I seem to remember us picking up someone from the Patsies just before we played them a few years back. Didn’t seem to help us much.
I think I’ve figured out that LMN is actually Sinead O’Connor…Those recent hysterical posts re: religion and spankings (as separate subjects) were the giveaway.
Raiders 38 – Donks 13
November 3rd, 2011 at 7:47 am
TE-Blow can scramble away from pressure though. Seymour and Kelly are going to have a hard time catching him if he sees them coming.
November 3rd, 2011 at 7:48 am
Tebow’s #1 problem is that he doesn’t ’see’ the defense like good QBs. He has no ability to read defenses, which is why he is very good in the 2 minute drill, because the defense is on its heels reacting to him, versus him reading what they do.
November 3rd, 2011 at 7:50 am
bcz24 Says:
November 3rd, 2011 at 7:38 am
Believe me I understand the fear of change, especially with how much change is happening so quickly. If you step back and look at these moves objectively they make sense. Yes Carson Palmer was expensive, BUT we couldn’t finish the season out with Boller (we all saw exactly why) and now we got him a receiver to ease the transition. Ndukwe is a clear upgrade over Boyd no matter how you slice it. Sheppard is a clear upgrade over Ron Parker (who never even dressed for a game). We are filling holes and getting better.
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All these moves so far, includung Curry, ahve improved the team, no doubt. I think people are just upset that it was Hagan, the only veteran WR & possesion guy on the roster, that got the axe.
After looking at the roster, I don’t see anyone else they could have gotten rid of outside of Chaz, but I even prefer him over Hagan. Tonga has to be kept in case Reece isn’t healthy.
November 3rd, 2011 at 7:51 am
bcz24 Says:
November 3rd, 2011 at 7:48 am
Tebow’s #1 problem is that he doesn’t ’see’ the defense like good QBs. He has no ability to read defenses, which is why he is very good in the 2 minute drill, because the defense is on its heels reacting to him, versus him reading what they do.
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No coincidence this was also the only time Russell ever looked like a semi-competent QB.
November 3rd, 2011 at 7:54 am
Heat Tebow up and mix up the coverages and it’s all over for the Donks. The rushers just have to stay disciplined and keep their lanes. Denver might get an early one from Tebow running around but that will be all.
November 3rd, 2011 at 8:03 am
B@uce, can you fix this by Sunday?
OAKLAND, Calif. — A protest that shut down the Port of Oakland to show the broadening reach of the Occupy Wall Street movement ended in violence when police in riot gear arrested dozens of protesters overnight who broke into a vacant building, shattered downtown windows, sprayed graffiti and set blazes along the way.
At least four protesters were hospitalized Thursday with various injuries, including one needing stitches after fighting with an officer, police said. Several officers were also injured but didn’t need hospitalization.
“We go from having a peaceful movement to now just chaos,” protester Monique Agnew, 40, said early Thursday.
REUTERS
A demonstrator waves a flag as rubbish burns at the Occupy Oakland demonstration.
Photos: Occupy Oakland Movement Turns Violent
see more videos PHOTOS: OCCUPY OAKLAND TURNS VIOLENT
EDITORIAL: TIME TO THROW THE BUMS OUT
Protesters also threw concrete chunks, metal pipes, lit roman candles and molotov cocktails, police said.
The far-flung movement of protesters challenging the world’s economic systems and distribution of wealth has gained momentum in recent weeks, capturing the world’s attention by shutting down one of the nation’s busiest shipping ports toward the end of a daylong “general strike” that prompted solidarity rallies across the U.S.
Several thousands of people converged on the Port of Oakland, the nation’s fifth-busiest harbor, in a nearly five-hour protest Wednesday, swarming the area and blocking exits and streets with illegally parked vehicles and hastily erected, chain-link fences afterward.
Port spokesman Isaac Kos-Read said evening operations had been “effectively shut down.”
Port officials hoped to resume maritime operations Thursday “and that Port workers will be allowed to get to their jobs without incident. Continued missed shifts represent economic hardship for maritime workers, truckers, and their families, as well as lost jobs and lost tax revenue for our region.”
Supporters in New York, Philadelphia, Los Angeles and elsewhere staged smaller-scale demonstrations. Each group said its protest was a show of support for the Oakland movement, which became a rallying point when an Iraq War veteran was seriously injured in a clash with police last week.
The larger Occupy movement has yet to coalesce into an organized association and until the port shut down had largely been limited scattershot marches, rallies and tent encampments since it began in September.
Organizers in Oakland viewed the strike and port shutdown as a significant victory. Police said that about 7,000 people participated in demonstrations throughout the day that were peaceful except for a few incidents of vandalism at local banks and businesses.
Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/occupy_oakland_protests_degenerate_u443e11zKyb0uKWOue4qRL#ixzz1cedrPUN5
November 3rd, 2011 at 8:03 am
CanuckRaider Says:
November 3rd, 2011 at 7:54 am
Heat Tebow up
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I am in favor of just lighting him on fire.
November 3rd, 2011 at 8:06 am
Wow, Kleenex Crew is still in full effect.
November 3rd, 2011 at 8:07 am
Asante Samuel is not a man to man corner.
He is a gambling zone corner that gets torched when he actually has man to man duties.
Deangelo Hall=Devin McCourty=Asante Samuel
November 3rd, 2011 at 8:07 am
Cutting Hagan for TJ = good move.
TJ is a great football player.
Get over it!
Hue Davis got this.
November 3rd, 2011 at 8:08 am
After Sunday we will be 5-3 and in the lead as the chefs and chumps will both lose.
November 3rd, 2011 at 8:09 am
People are cracking me up. When Al Davis made all of the decisions, everybody complained because the coaches had no freedom in any decision making, now we have a coach that has the freedom to make choices with players he feels he can get the best production from,, now everveybody complaining because they feel like it’s something Al Davis wouldn’t have done. I got all the respect for Al but the decisions he made for years ( with the exception of the last few years) wasn’t that great. The complaints on here reminds me of women who get mad because they want their boyfriend to take the next step and become their husband,, then when he marry her ass, she wants him to go back to doing things like when he was her boyfriend. In other words she’s never satisfied, and always complaining. That’s what some of these posts in here sound like,,,complaining nagging wives,, you miserable,,, I mean married men know what I’m talking about. Stop complaining and enjoy winning.
November 3rd, 2011 at 8:10 am
My neighbor Pretty Rick nailed it.
November 3rd, 2011 at 8:18 am
LA,,,sup cuz.
November 3rd, 2011 at 8:19 am
Lets see…
Coach Hue Davis’ spending spree = CP3, TJ, Curry = A minus
Coach Davis’ spending spree = Javon “make it rain” Walker, D Hall, Gerbil Wilson, Kwame Harris = F plus
November 3rd, 2011 at 8:21 am
548.SilverNBlackPA Says:
November 3rd, 2011 at 6:43 am
Don’t forget Kwame “the turnstile” Harris
+++++++++
Surprised Harris never got whiplash from turning his neck so much as he watched defensive ends run by him.
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Kwame can be seen at the Tijuana Bull Fighting ring performing as a Matador as he has the TORO move down pat from his Raider days.
November 3rd, 2011 at 8:23 am
Kwame can be seen at the Tijuana Bull Fighting ring performing as a Matador as he has the TORO move down pat from his Raider days.
+++++++++
LMAO, right outside is Barrett Robbins passed out in the gutter in a pool of his own vomit.
Down the street, Andrew Walter & Stu Schweigert are working the donkey show
November 3rd, 2011 at 8:25 am
AM Suckas: Hagan was not picked up by Denver.
So easily used…
November 3rd, 2011 at 8:27 am
Good Morning Raider Nation!!
November 3rd, 2011 at 8:28 am
Police = socialism.
Occupy! Burn the port down!
November 3rd, 2011 at 8:34 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
November 3rd, 2011 at 8:25 am
AM Suckas: Hagan was not picked up by Denver.
So easily used…
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Dangit! I’m trying to quit smoking and you all are just making it difficult! I DO think that Hagan was NOT the person to be cut.
November 3rd, 2011 at 8:35 am
I understand what hue is doing. Everyone is freaking out about signing a wr for the league minimum. Chill out. Hue knows we are a run first team. But you can’t be a run only team. Palmer and housh are great gets, to make people respect the pass. I think most people are freaking out because it’s been so long since the kc loss. Our defense only gave up 14 points. We know what we are. I’d much rather be where we are now than be one of the teams that if they were in our shoes, they’d stick with boller and not make the playoffs. We are in great position. Beat Denver sd and Minnesota, were 7-3. Let’s get it done!
Donks 10 raiders 23
November 3rd, 2011 at 8:35 am
Really? Dammit…well, just made it better, I guess…but who cares? STOMP THE DONKS!
November 3rd, 2011 at 8:37 am
If cutting hagan is a worry, this is not a playoff team. No other team picked him up, he had a good preseason, but next man up. Hagan is not the difference between playoff run and missing playoffs
November 3rd, 2011 at 8:40 am
@corkonthenfl Steve Corkran
Just learned Jon Condo spent his bye week camped out at the Occupy protest with Gavin Newsom.
3 minutes ago
November 3rd, 2011 at 8:44 am
He knows more about offensive and defensive football than any non-quarterback I’ve ever been around,” Palmer said. “He understands concepts, schemes, alignments, all the little things a lot of receivers overlook. It’s going to be a big help for these young guys to have him around.
“I think just in the first day, they were kind of taken aback by how much he knows. For him to know the playbook in just his first day out, getting here late yesterday, it shows a lot about his football knowledge.”
feeling better about the signing, let’s go Raiders
November 3rd, 2011 at 8:49 am
So; has everyone had enough time to digest the Carson Palmer interviews on Comcast Bay Area & BSPN?
He was more in depth engaging the local press. He eluded to TJ having the best grasp of football, offensive & defensive, as any non quarterback he has been around. He went on to indicate the Raiders young WR corps embraced the fact TJ has not just the overall football knowledge but grasped the Raiders playbook very quickly.
Of course Palmer went on to disclose TJ is like any other receiver; he wants the ball on every play.
So when Coach Hue says he has been pining for this move since the truncated training camp he is right. However, the combination of the two (well, three) was percipitated by Palmer’s arrival. Once that took place the TJ addition was automatic.
I think, as long as TJ represses his diva ways (a year with the Seahawks & the dropped pass @ the end of last year’s playoff loss for the Ravens should prove an acceptable cure) & integrates into the Raiders WR rotation this should prove nothing but positive. . .
November 3rd, 2011 at 8:52 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
November 3rd, 2011 at 8:40 am
@corkonthenfl Steve Corkran
Just learned Jon Condo spent his bye week camped out at the Occupy protest with Gavin Newsom.
3 minutes ago
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Condo was holding stretching classes before each days protesting.
Multitasking at its finest, the man needs a raise.
November 3rd, 2011 at 8:53 am
603; how do police equal socialism?
In this case the word you want is “facism.” Great googly moogly!
Are you a tea bagger?
November 3rd, 2011 at 8:56 am
SnBPA
1 Otto
2 Dalby
3 Robbins
all pro bowl centers.A lineage that went from 59 to 02.
Robbins was bipolar and could not drink.Someone got to
him,took him down to TJ,got him to drink and that is why
we lost that game.The center is the field general.The only guy to touch the ball on every down.He was irreplaceable.Pro bowl to babbling idiot overnight…
I don’t think so.We got F&ked royally.Coincidence …
no way!!!
November 3rd, 2011 at 8:59 am
Man it’s nice to finally be stocked at WR AND have a very good QB!
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~Johnnie Lee Higgins captured both titles in 2008, with 22 for 366
November 3rd, 2011 at 9:00 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
November 3rd, 2011 at 8:28 am
Police = socialism.
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Yeah, Jamista clown must hate them. And Firemen. And schools. And roads. As long as he has a cave and a board with a nail in it, he’s fine.
November 3rd, 2011 at 9:05 am
Is this weekend a sellout? Only lower level tickets in the visiting team side is available on Ticketmaster. It appears to me it’s close to approaching sell out
November 3rd, 2011 at 9:07 am
Antispy3 all ism’s have one thing in common…a sh!tload
of police.Socialism is two party Communism and Fascism
is what Communism morphs into after all of its founding
idealist’s are executed.
November 3rd, 2011 at 9:10 am
Twinkle, don’t jinx Comrade bama
November 3rd, 2011 at 9:11 am
Not a teabagger, lol. Just sarcastic.
Police = socialism in the smallminded logic of many republitards. Pigs are govt. owned, and way overpaid with OUR tax money.
Fire dept., post office, the GB Packers, DEA, Coast Guard, NAVY SEALS… same thing.
All big govt. socialism. You should have to pay a private company to put the fire out on your house. Can’t pay? Ask your church to help or welcome to the curb.
November 3rd, 2011 at 9:11 am
Good morning Raider fans and others
Heightened CODE BLACK protocols begin tomorrow
November 3rd, 2011 at 9:14 am
Just read that Bush I actually considered making Clint his VP! Was way behind Dukakis in the polls and wanted a bump. Unreal.
November 3rd, 2011 at 9:14 am
But Bo, aren’t teachers, military, police, and firefighters our heroes? And if not, they were certainly built up this way by the previous administration (OBGYNs sharing their love).
Which is why Republicans are paying them more and giving them more opportunity, right?
Oh, wait…
November 3rd, 2011 at 9:20 am
a bit of tension exists between the Oakland Police and the Mayors….
November 3rd, 2011 at 9:22 am
Antispy3 Says:
November 3rd, 2011 at 8:49 am
So; has everyone had enough time to digest the Carson Palmer interviews on Comcast Bay Area & BSPN?
He was more in depth engaging the local press. He eluded to TJ having the best grasp of football, offensive & defensive, as any non quarterback he has been around. He went on to indicate the Raiders young WR corps embraced the fact TJ has not just the overall football knowledge but grasped the Raiders playbook very quickly.
Of course Palmer went on to disclose TJ is like any other receiver; he wants the ball on every play.
So when Coach Hue says he has been pining for this move since the truncated training camp he is right. However, the combination of the two (well, three) was percipitated by Palmer’s arrival. Once that took place the TJ addition was automatic.
I think, as long as TJ represses his diva ways (a year with the Seahawks & the dropped pass @ the end of last year’s playoff loss for the Ravens should prove an acceptable cure) & integrates into the Raiders WR rotation this should prove nothing but positive. . .
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I think he said he was “humbled” when the phone didnt ring during the season, until he got brief workouts with New England, N.Y. and San Fran. I think he may be in the right direction.
November 3rd, 2011 at 9:23 am
LA…can’t…he’s doing a way to good of a job of that by
himself.
November 3rd, 2011 at 9:24 am
Oh wait?
I sense you are impugning our previous Republican leader. Who was also the President of our great nation.
So I put it to you, by calling our leader a hypocrite, aren’t you denegrating our entire system? The country itself?
I will not sit here while you spew such hate of the United States of America.
November 3rd, 2011 at 9:27 am
Bo…gotta love the compassion for your fellow man…
funny as all hell to see the Packers included in your list!
November 3rd, 2011 at 9:28 am
Twinkle Says:
November 3rd, 2011 at 9:07 am
Antispy3 all ism’s have one thing in common…a sh!tload
of police.Socialism is two party Communism and Fascism
is what Communism morphs into after all of its founding
idealist’s are executed.
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Communists = invented by combining the nihilists and the atheists in 1929
Capitalists = good up until the jobs were outsourced. Now its Corporate Communism and bankers imploding the economy with derivatives.
largely an excuse to replace democratically elected governments unfriendly to american business and replacing them with genocidal maniacs. U.S. trained of course.
Democrats/Republicans – two sides of the same coin. There are some efforts made to improve it, but Congress and the Dept. of Justice are completely powerless.
November 3rd, 2011 at 9:31 am
Bo
If you are speaking of the ‘decider’ (Gdubya) then I was
only referring to elected officials.
November 3rd, 2011 at 9:32 am
BoSJack,
time to unveil your Jon Condo for Prez placard on the front lawn.
motto : Never has no one done so well
November 3rd, 2011 at 9:33 am
RaiderSam I was told that a democrat was a republican
without any money.
November 3rd, 2011 at 9:33 am
First off, who is T.J. to say what the current WRs can and can’t do?
Second, isn’t it too soon for Hue to be saying that he’s going against Al Davis’ wishes by replacing Hagan with T.J.?
I don’t like the smell of this.
November 3rd, 2011 at 9:42 am
Twinkle, I live on the Wis./Il. state line. I nail MANY teabagger cheeseheads with my Commie Packers attack.
Don’t tread on my NFL!
November 3rd, 2011 at 9:44 am
LOL Lonetree. Condo is the Dan Quayle of pro sports.
November 3rd, 2011 at 9:46 am
Guys, you may want to view the horrible consequences of socialism at this link….
http://euro2008girls.com/pics/swedish_girls_02-500×666.jpg
November 3rd, 2011 at 9:46 am
RaiderfanNY I’ll try…
1 Experience Current crop of WR’s = 0
TJ = lots
2 Al wanted Haggan…Hue wanted TJ
after the votes were counted Al won 1-0.
November 3rd, 2011 at 9:47 am
this year it seems that McFalldown is disappeared.
McFumble made a briel appearance against the Buffies and was instrumental in that Raider loss.
But it is McFootInjury that won’t go away. Doesn’t that worry folks around here?
(Much more problematic than whether or not Derek Hagan remains on the roster, don’t ya think?)
November 3rd, 2011 at 9:51 am
JaSoup – 6 passing TDs in 6 games.
and the Raiders are in first place.
it says here that the Raiders will exceed 1 TD pass per contest over the remainder of their schedule and will win the West.
November 3rd, 2011 at 9:51 am
Bo…I don’t care what they all say…Racine is beautiful
at this time of year.BTW did you happen to come across
any discount Packer shares recently?
November 3rd, 2011 at 9:52 am
“The Raiders are a first class organization. They’ll do anything to win. They’re first class, first rate.”
Carson Palmer excerpt on BSPN. . .
November 3rd, 2011 at 9:53 am
Bravo, Kirk. You have earned your captain bars. . .
November 3rd, 2011 at 9:54 am
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November 3rd, 2011 at 9:56 am
I am less about concern about the TJ and Hagan switch and more concerned how easy M.Bush is being tackled, especially in short yardage plays. He need to pick up his feet more and drive harder. The defender confronting Bush just throws his body across Bush without wrapping Bush up and down goes Bush, down goes Bush, down goes Bush!!! He as to be able to step over some tackles or take the defenders momentum downward with a straight arm and gain extra yards. Whatever the case he needs to be more physical.
Taiwan Jones needs to be the home run threat in the back field taking DMAC’s place. I hope he gets his touches and is productive in that role.
November 3rd, 2011 at 9:59 am
32 teams have passed on TO and you STILL want him. You guys just arent being objective here. TJ is an upgrade over Hagan PERIOD.
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Lol. I don’t want TO here but I must point out that if you use that logic, we shouldn’t have picked up TJ either. 32 teams passed for half the season till we came along.
November 3rd, 2011 at 10:00 am
antispy3 Says:
November 3rd, 2011 at 9:53 am
Bravo, Kirk. You have earned your captain bars. . .
……………………………….
In my next life I want to be born in Sweden.
November 3rd, 2011 at 10:01 am
Packers “shares” are just a sham to try and appear capitalist.
And I’m west of Racine a bit…
November 3rd, 2011 at 10:02 am
Y’all have obviously missed my bit of humor. . .
The occupation is going on here in the 206 (actually started b4 the occupation in Oaktown) as well. Pepper spray made it’s first apperance @ the behest of Cicibank’s CEO. . .some welcoming committee. . .
I actually sampled the local flavor the first two days. Really disorganized. I didn’t want any connection to me & Timothy leary. . .
It’s just so funny how the youth invariably shoot their load supposedly for “the greater good” & shortly thereafter repair to more capitalistic ventures. . .more profitable when one realizes dissent is futile. What’s going to be the outcome? American Spring? LOL
November 3rd, 2011 at 10:02 am
Ah, the uncertainty of the NFL. Preseason’s rockstar is yesterday’s trash.
November 3rd, 2011 at 10:03 am
Lonetree
Hell yeah it’s a worry but Al left us an insurance policy
by the name of M.Bush.Who doesn’t occupy much of the trainers time and does not fumble for all of the time he
spends between the tackles.Gotta put 8 in the box or he’ll run all over you azz.Gotta figure Palmer may be able to do something with that…don’t you?
November 3rd, 2011 at 10:03 am
McBroken is definitely in the house…again.
November 3rd, 2011 at 10:03 am
for that matter, all 32 teams passed multiple times on Denarius Moore. and Jacoby Ford. and Taiwan Jones. and Louis Murphy. and Chaz Schilens.
November 3rd, 2011 at 10:03 am
Kirk Says:
November 3rd, 2011 at 10:00 am
antispy3 Says:
November 3rd, 2011 at 9:53 am
Bravo, Kirk. You have earned your captain bars. . .
……………………………….
In my next life I want to be born in Sweden.
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Boy howdy! Ah, the ladies of Sweden. Delicious!
November 3rd, 2011 at 10:06 am
M Lonetree Says:
November 3rd, 2011 at 10:03 am
for that matter, all 32 teams passed multiple times on Denarius Moore. and Jacoby Ford. and Taiwan Jones. and Louis Murphy. and Chaz Schilens.
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Lol. Because they didn’t draft them before us? Come on, man. You can’t be serious.
November 3rd, 2011 at 10:07 am
Twinkle,
I’m not worried about McFootInjury. not with Bush and Jones.
I just got tired of reading “the sky is falling! the wolves are at the door! oh woe is us!” because the Raiders opted to replace their #6 receiver. thought I’d throw a different subject into the pile.
November 3rd, 2011 at 10:08 am
we’re in day 3 of post great Hagan… o man this team is looking really bad.. now he went to the great broncos team to help their franchise qb to lead to him to promise land… he will always haunt us like Marcus Allen in KC chiefs Uni’s , like Rat face did with broncos, like Schottenheimer (sp?) did with chargers omg this team is so dumb , how could let go one of the best player in this league and to the divisional rivals non the less ..
November 3rd, 2011 at 10:09 am
Cfrylopez is proof that we have Raider employees among us. Keep up the good work, Cfry!
November 3rd, 2011 at 10:10 am
As I’ve discovered in regards to Wisconsin…’a bit west’
could mean Fond du Lac and that ‘changeable weather’ means hail,tornado,sweltering humidity and cold wind driven rain all before lunch.
November 3rd, 2011 at 10:15 am
I have a story about a 20 something Swedish exchange student looking for a going away present @ Sea-Tac Airport. I was all too willing to comply. . .
Coulda had a future but @ the time girlfriend interviened & captured the tell-tale written evidence (wonder if I’d be hanging out with LMN. Reality check; HARDLY!). Drat!
November 3rd, 2011 at 10:17 am
Lmao @ #619
November 3rd, 2011 at 10:19 am
Hagan hasn’t signed with the Broncos.
November 3rd, 2011 at 10:20 am
Mcfadden20…it was an obvious steal by the ‘burros’. A
vacancy had just occurred in their WR corp after their
brilliant trade of their only productive player for a 7th
round draft pick.Couple that with drafting Tebow in the
1st round as QB and then moving him to Punter after this
weekend…its totally obvious…they want Hagan to QB.
We got screwed again!
November 3rd, 2011 at 10:23 am
What is Tebow anyway? I mean as a football player.
Assuming he doesn’t pan out at QB
Can he catch and/or block? Doesn’t seem like it, so TE probably out.
Not fast enough to be a tailback.
I guess he would be a short yardage FB/HB or gimmick utility, wildcat type player.
Maybe he winds up on the couch (or in the pews).
November 3rd, 2011 at 10:24 am
Twinkle Says:
November 3rd, 2011 at 10:20 am
Mcfadden20…it was an obvious steal by the ‘burros’. A
vacancy had just occurred in their WR corp after their
brilliant trade of their only productive player for a 7th
round draft pick.Couple that with drafting Tebow in the
1st round as QB and then moving him to Punter after this
weekend…its totally obvious…they want Hagan to QB.
We got screwed again!
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Obviously now we will have to watch the mules in playoffs everyday..:(
November 3rd, 2011 at 10:24 am
every year..
November 3rd, 2011 at 10:28 am
Classic……..
Tebow is facing a torrent of criticism after Sunday’s butt-ugly loss to the Lions, both from within Denver and from the team that dismantled Tebow and the Broncos.
An unnamed Lions defender shared this assessment of Tebow with Mike Silver of Yahoo! Sports: “Can you believe 15? Come on – that’s embarrassing. I mean, it’s a joke. We knew all week that if we brought any kind of defensive pressure, he couldn’t do anything. In the second half it got boring out there. We were like, ‘Come on – that’s your quarterback? Seriously?’”
Defensive end Cliff Avril was a bit more restrained. “As long as he felt our pressure, he was gonna make crazy decisions.”
And defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh, referring to a controversial Friday headline from NFL.com that couched the Lions-Broncos game as a battle of good vs. evil, put it, “Evil prevails.”
November 3rd, 2011 at 10:28 am
what’s going to happen to Raiders without great Campbell since we replaced him with a scrub (Palmer) and with out great Hagan who we replaced with a never has been (TJ)
we’re back to last 8 year performance with these moves…
November 3rd, 2011 at 10:28 am
Nothing funnier – or more pleasing – than watching two of my minions crying in each other’s arms over getting slapped around by their Master, Beecham!
Yesterday after I cruised from the blog to party serious on my VIP-only Reggae Party Boat, Nob Raider and Peemore Bush had a girly sob session to get over the humiliations they suffered at my hand.
It was pretty awesome, reminded me of that time Brenda and Kelly wept in each other’s arms because they weren’t invited to the West Beverly High prom.
I’m sure my humble minions will be back today for more punishment, so check back soon for another classic Beeecham style slap down!
CHECK YOUR MIC 1 2 1 2DEM BEATS IS FRESH
November 3rd, 2011 at 10:29 am
Tebow will be the team chaplin. . .
Win one for Jesus!
November 3rd, 2011 at 10:32 am
Is there any chance Fox changes his mind and plays Orton instead? Or does he have to stick to the plan?
November 3rd, 2011 at 10:32 am
Cool lil’ article on Amy Trask
http://espn.go.com/espnw/more-sports/7181147/oakland-raiders-ceo-amy-trask-driven-mentor-al-davis
November 3rd, 2011 at 10:35 am
Mr Tebow (and I have this from reputable sources)is being
prepared for life after football (that’s next week) as
a crash test dummy for Caterpillar.
November 3rd, 2011 at 10:36 am
[...] Jackson told the Bay Area News Group of Palmer’s influence on the signing. “A lot of people have said — and I’ve [...]
November 3rd, 2011 at 10:40 am
Its good Hagan got another job somewhere but why did he have to pick the Broncos?
Now Tebow and “the pagan” are on the same team.
November 3rd, 2011 at 10:41 am
Stickin with my earlier prediction
Raiders 35
Donkeys 13
Tebow Donkey punched in 3rd….DNF
biggest question..who replaces..Orton or Quinn
November 3rd, 2011 at 10:43 am
Can’t wait to see our 4 DT Dline and our LBs get after the Donkeys this weekend!
November 3rd, 2011 at 10:44 am
“They call her “Al Davis with ovaries.” They wonder if she’d consider that a compliment. Nearly everyone who will talk about Trask uses the word “tough” in describing the woman who is now, three weeks after Davis’ death, the front-office face of the Oakland Raiders. The most powerful woman in the NFL”.
This ^^^^
Me likey!!
November 3rd, 2011 at 10:44 am
Some of you guys really bit on RRS’s Hagan to the Donkeys PROPOGANDA!!!!
Hagan is unemployed!
November 3rd, 2011 at 10:46 am
I can’t imagine he won’t be picked up by some team out there. He can be a good receiver.
November 3rd, 2011 at 10:46 am
SnBB
Thanks for the link….really good article!
November 3rd, 2011 at 10:46 am
Nearly everyone who will talk about Trask uses the word “tough” in describing the woman who is now, three weeks after Davis’ death, the front-office face of the Oakland Raiders. The most powerful woman in the NFL”.
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Which makes all this Hue Davis is running the Raiders talk absolutely RIDICULOUS!!!!
Al Davis’ succession planning did not havfe Hue frickin Jackson or any other COACH running HIS Raiders.
November 3rd, 2011 at 10:47 am
Any truth to the rumor Kwame Harris went into the theater business?
As a turnstile. . .
November 3rd, 2011 at 10:50 am
Just watched the Behind the Shield they posted today on Raiders.com of TJ and Jeanette Thompson. From his past two interviews (this 1 on 1, and his brief media interview yesterday), I can definitely tell dude is a stand-up hold nothing back type of cat. Yea, I think it’s easy to tell he’s somewhat of an a$$hole too (Lol), but I can see more so now from these interviews (especially today’s) why Hue brought him in. Maybe he just feels the WR core needs a kick in the a$$. Heck, maybe he isn’t even around next year, and maybe Hue just wants him more so for his personality in an effort to build the bully mentality this year. When she asked him about the reception he got from his teammates, it’s easy to tell it obviously wasn’t a good reception because he stressed it’ll take time for them to get to know each other, and never once said it was good. I respect that dude is all business, and as much as I hate knowing that he’s probably gonna bump heads with more than a few people; it could work out in the long run for the team’s psyche. Hue wants more fire from everyone I’m sure, and I think he knows TJ will light that match. Could be ugly at times, but I think what Hue is doing with this move will pan out. I at least feel a lot better about it today than the other day. It’s kinda funny how easily you can tell dude is an a$$hole! Gotta admit though, as a Raider fan, I’m loving that…..
Ya’ll gotta watch the interview though and lemme know what ya think……
http://www.raiders.com/media-vault/videos/Behind-the-Shield-Online-11-03-11-Preview/91da514f-905a-4b6e-af46-496c3d0169d9#?id=95bc42fe-4d97-4ee3-9596-594c8a64c3b2&channelName=Recent
November 3rd, 2011 at 10:59 am
Hagan to the Donks was pretty predictable in hindsight. It’s typical for teams to grab someone recently cut by a team for some insight. It’s less about the playbook, which they can see well enough from reviewing game tape, and more about learning tendencies of the players. Like I’m sure they’ll be grilling Hagan about anything he saw regarding Palmer’s reads, throwing style, cadence, etc.
If he sticks with the Donks more than a couple weeks past the Raiders games, then we’ll see if there was more to the signing than just intelligence purposes. Then again, as a Raiders WR they know he’s a good downfield blocker. Given that Teblow can’t throw, maybe they want him for his blocking skills for everytime he leaves the pocket and runs.
November 3rd, 2011 at 11:01 am
Zymurge Says:
November 3rd, 2011 at 10:59 am
Hagan to the Donks was pretty predictable in hindsight. It’s typical for teams to grab someone recently cut by a team for some insight. It’s less about the playbook, which they can see well enough from reviewing game tape, and more about learning tendencies of the players. Like I’m sure they’ll be grilling Hagan about anything he saw regarding Palmer’s reads, throwing style, cadence, etc.
If he sticks with the Donks more than a couple weeks past the Raiders games, then we’ll see if there was more to the signing than just intelligence purposes. Then again, as a Raiders WR they know he’s a good downfield blocker. Given that Teblow can’t throw, maybe they want him for his blocking skills for everytime he leaves the pocket and runs.
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It was propaganda! He did not go to the Donks!
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November 4th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
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