Raiders squander chance to seize control of AFC West
By Steve Corkran
Sunday, November 6th, 2011 at 8:14 pm in Oakland Raiders.
There is a part of the Raiders that is grateful for the Kansas City Chiefs and San Diego Chargers losing Sunday. There is a larger part that is furious for losing a game to the Denver Broncos and a golden opportunity to move into sole possession of first place in the AFC West.
“Big wasted opportunity,” Raiders defensive tackle Tommy Kelly said. “We could be sitting here 5-3, going to San Diego -– they’re coming off a loss, sore -– boom, we go down there and we’re 6-3, two-game lead. But you know, like always, we got to make it hard for ourselves. We got to move on. Take your beating from coach and get on about your business. We dropped the ball big time.”
Instead, the Raiders remain in a three-way tie for first with the Chiefs and Chargers at 4-4. The Broncos improved to 3-5 and suddenly are in the mix.
For the second straight game, the Raiders were done in by interceptions. This time, there were only three interceptions, and not six, but they were just as costly.
The most-egregious one came with the Raiders leading 24-17 and at the Broncos 43-yard line late in the third quarter.
Palmer launched a pass down the middle of the field for wide receiver Denarius Moore, who was able to get only a hand on the ball as it whizzed past — so much for questions about Palmer’s arm strength.
Broncos cornerback Chris Harris was there for the deflection, and he returned it 15 yards to the Broncos 40. Running back Willis McGahee burst through the right side of the line untouched and kept running unimpeded for a 60-yard, game-tying touchdown.
“I’m going to be very hard on him because I know what’s in there,” Jackson said of Palmer. “I know what kind of player he is. What we have to do is make sure we don’t give it to the other team.”
Just like that, the Raiders had lost all of their 10-point lead. Two drives later, Palmer got stopped just shy of a first down on a third-down scramble.
Shane Lechler’s punt landed in the arms of Eddie Royal and wound up in the end zone for an 85-yard return for touchdown. The Broncos tacked on another touchdown, again on a McGahee run on which he went untouched, for the finall margin of victory.
Overall, Palmer has six interceptions in less than six quarters of play since he arrived via trade with the Cincinnati Bengals on Oct. 18.
He passed for 332 yards and three touchdowns in showing that he hasn’t lost his ability to move a team up and down the field.
Pretty impressive for a guy who hadn’t started a game since Jan. 2, missed all of training camp and has practiced only eight times with the Raiders.
And about what Palmer expected in the early going, he said.
“There are still some things I’m a little bit off on, I’m a little bit rusty on,” Palmer said. “There still are some things I’m not just quite comfortable with. But that’s what I expected.
“I didn’t expect to come in this week and just go 100 percent, ready to rock ‘n’ roll with everything. It’s kind of par for the course with where I am in this offense and in this system.”
PENALTIES NOT GOING AWAY
The Raiders committed 15 penalties for 120 yards in the regular-season opener against the Broncos. Not to be outdone, they were flagged 15 times for 130 on Sunday.
Overall, the Raiders solidified their lead in both categories, with 84 for 730 yards. They have led in both stats from wire to wire.
Through eight games, they are on pace for 168 penalties for 1,460 yards. Both would shatter team records. The Raiders committed 156 penalties in 1994 and ‘96. They were penalized a franchise-high 1,276 yards last season. The 1998 Kansas City Chiefs hold the NFL record in both categories (158 for 1,304 yards).
None of this is lost on Jackson or the players.
“We’re not a very intelligent football team right now,” Jackson said. “We’re not playing very intelligently when it comes to penalties. Some of the penalties are uncalled for.
“And I’m going to continue to address it. I don’t want anyone to think that we haven’t. We have officials. We talk about it. We emphasize it, and we’re not going to stop. I told you guys, it might be game 16 when it’s fixed. I don’t know. But I know one thing, I’m not going to let it slide.”
On one sequence, rookie Taiwan Jones was called for being offsides and roughing the kicker on back-to-back snaps. That came on the heels of defensive tackle Richard Seymour keeping alive the drive with a facemask penalty.
On another play, linebacker Aaron Curry hit quarterback Tim Tebow late out of bounds on a play that turned a Broncos pun into a first down.
“It was a bad idea,” Curry said. “I got to eliminate that stuff from my game, point blank, period. I can’t make any excuses for it except for my awareness of where he was at on the field wasn’t top of the line awareness. But either way, it’s a bad decision. It was just, that was just dumb.”
You know what they say, admitting the problem is the first step to recovery. Time will tell.
RUN DEFENSE FALLS APART
Well, so much for the run defense being fixed.
The Raiders rebounded from an horrendous start their first four games — 5.9-yard average — to post a three-game stretch in which they allowed only 274 yards on 85 carries (3.2).
On Sunday, the Broncos ripped off 298 yards on 38 carries for an astounding 7.8-yard average.
Kelly said it’s even more frustrating because the Broncos ran plays the Raiders practiced against all week and have seen before.
“They have been running the same thing since they put (Tebow) in there,” Kelly said. “They’re running that college (stuff), that zone (stuff). Read it, quarterback going to hold it. Man, we practiced that (stuff) all week. It’s not like they came out there with some new package or scheme. We ain’t seen nothing we ain’t been seeing. First half, we got off the field. Second half, we spit the bit out.”
Well, that’s one way to put it.
Put another way, the Raiders allowed an average of 117 yards rushing their first seven games. The Broncos more than doubled that output. Tebow managed 117 by himself. McGahee tacked on 163.
“We worked on everything that they did with him,” Curry said of Tebow. “That’s a good scheme that they have running. Tebow’s a really good zone read type quarterback. He knows how to make that read and he does it well. We just, we didn’t make the read as well as he made it.”
WHAT HAPPENED TO DHB?
Darrius Heyward-Bey was Oakland’s go-to receiver in each of its first seven games. On Sunday, he was an observer from the sideline for all but a handful of plays.
He had one pass thrown his way, and it didn’t come until the second half. Jackson went with Moore, Chaz Schilens and Jacoby Ford on most occasions, with T.J. Houshmandzadeh also getting a fair amount of playing time.
Heyward-Bey led all Raiders wide receivers with 27 receptions for 434 yards entering the game. He finished the game stuck on those same numbers.
Moore, Ford and Houshmandzadeh had 22 passes directed their way.
“We have some very talented players, and he’s one of them,” Jackson said. “We had certain sets where we have a bunch of guys targeting for those particular sets because of comfortability. It had nothing to do with … Darrius is a good player, and he’s doing well, so that had nothing to do with that.”
Heyward-Bey exited the locker room without speaking with reporters.
JANIKOWSKI AT LESS THAN FULL STRENGTH
Jackson went with Janikowski, even though it was obvious that Janikowski’s left hamstring was at less than 100 percent.
Janikowski said he wasn’t able to swing his leg as hard as usual, and it showed on few of his kick-offs. One of his five kicks went for a touchback.
“It held up good,” Janikowski said. “On kick-offs, I was just doing whatever I could. That’s the hardest I could swing.”
He didn’t attempt any field goals from beyond 38 yards in pre-game warm-ups. However, he converted one in the game from 48.
“Field goals? Limited,” Janikowski said of his range. “Fifth six or 57 (yards), if you could call that limited. So, we had a good distance.”
Fortunately for the Raiders, Janikowski didn’t aggravate his injury, and he wasn’t forced to attempt more than the one field goal. He has three days to heal more before the Raiders play the Chargers.
MCCLAIN A LATE SCRATCH
Middle linebacker Rolando McClain was viewed as a key to the Raiders containing Tebow. However, it became apparent as the game neared that his injured left leg needed more time to heal.
The Raiders activated McClain, but they intended to use him only if needed. Darrly Blackstock replaced McClain in the starting lineup and played fine.
“He was out there, wanted to be out there,” Jackson said. “Again, I don’t want to put an injured player out there that
can’t play 100 percent, but if we needed him for something we could have used him if something all of a sudden went bananas where we didn’t have any more linebackers.”
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November 6th, 2011 at 8:18 pm
Hue blew it today! We should of went for it at 4 and 1 instead of punted it in the fourth quarter. Bullies don’t punt! What happened to his aggressive play calling?
November 6th, 2011 at 8:19 pm
If McClain and McFadden don’t play Thursday we lose. Simple as that.
November 6th, 2011 at 8:19 pm
Heyward-Bey exited the locker room without speaking with reporters.
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Hue carrying on in the tradition of Cable in pissing off his locker room.
November 6th, 2011 at 8:19 pm
What a schiit day
November 6th, 2011 at 8:20 pm
Ridiculous Loss…I’ll tell ya! My Raiders better and need to win Thursday night. Thanks for news Steve! Good looking out!
November 6th, 2011 at 8:20 pm
Things just aren’t making sense.
November 6th, 2011 at 8:21 pm
New faces and Flags helps sink Raiders…
http://www.raidernationstation.com/raider_war_room
November 6th, 2011 at 8:21 pm
Hopefully they can retain Campbell. Campbell may not of put up huge numbers, but he managed the game well, didn’t turn it over often. I can remember several times when Campbell came through with a clutch play in the fourth quarter.
November 6th, 2011 at 8:21 pm
First?
November 6th, 2011 at 8:22 pm
Still disappointed but I guess I’ll get over it soon enough.
November 6th, 2011 at 8:23 pm
Tell me something I don’t know, Cork.
November 6th, 2011 at 8:24 pm
Are you FCKING kidding me? WTF? Playoffs? We’re talking playoffs? Are you fckng outta your mind? Playoffs? What the fck just happened. I can’t believe this fckng happened.
Teams are supposed to fcking get better, not fckng wors as the season goes along. We are pure fckng dog schitt left out in the cold. This fcking defense QUIT today. Fckng layed down. No fight. What the hell has bresh got himself into?
I would love to see little Amy show up and torch some fckng ass til the sun comes up. I hope she comes unglued on these fckng wanna be coaches. What the hell is goin on? This team has gotten worse! WORSE! I am glad Coach aint around to see this pathetic display of football.
Coach busted his ass to get this club where it is today, the best product we’ve had in many years and these fckng bozo coaches come along and beat it into the ground. I wanna see Amy in a boot cast next week because if I do, I know she’ll have kicked some fcking ass. What the fck is goin on?
November 6th, 2011 at 8:24 pm
djohnnyg Says:
November 6th, 2011 at 8:15 pm
Yeah, this is what Hue has accomplished; he’s assembled a team of quitters that gave up.
He assembled a team that let the joke of the league and the butt of everyones jokes BEAT HIS AZZ like a drum.
Everything on the line and they quit. Period.
That’s what Hue has accomplished.
This team is an undisciplined mess. That’s what Hue has accomplished. Congrats.
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These mthafckrs are gonna be more concerned about gettin butt fcked and corn hole style embarrassment Thursday night instead of preparing for the game. My guess is after they fckng quit out there today, what fckng reason do you have they’ll show up in SD, let alone prepare for it. Pure ass bull schit if I ever seen it. Sad fckng thing is we’ve seen it before.
November 6th, 2011 at 8:26 pm
A BIG F’N MESS is what Hue has created.
DHB on the bench while TJ gets more playing time.
Boss nowhere to be found. No scheme to get him involved.
Defense is ate up with stupid. From the Coach on down.
Offensive line still commits penalties at the worst f’n time.
Players QUIT today. Simple as that. THIS TEAM QUIT!
November 6th, 2011 at 8:26 pm
We’re not a very intelligent football team right now,” Jackson said.
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You got that right.
November 6th, 2011 at 8:26 pm
Boy, I really wished I could’ve snatched that GatorAide from Coach Hue at the Press conference because he shouldn’t been thinking about thirst. He should be thinking about how to defeat the Dolts Thursday night.
November 6th, 2011 at 8:26 pm
http://www.csnbayarea.com/blog/raiders-talk/post/Raiders-not-ready-for-prime-time-not-yet?blockID=589294&feedID=2801
“In consecutive home games, sandwiching a bye, the Raiders looked lost, disinterested and, at the tail end of Sunday’s embarrassing 38-24 loss to Denver, as if they committed the mortal sin in sports — quitting.”
Read more: Raiders not ready for prime time, not yet anyway
Tune to SportsNet Central at 6, 10:30 and midnight on Comcast SportsNet Bay Area for more on this story
November 6th, 2011 at 8:27 pm
Hue Jackson clearly did not have this team prepared after they had a bye week.
You had 10 days to prepare for Denver!!
I blame Hue at least Cable could win divisions games Hue is 1-2 in the division this year.
After his head got big and he became the media darling he lost focus and we are losing games…this is Gruden all over again.
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And thinking he’s gonna have the ready for SD is a fckng stretch.
November 6th, 2011 at 8:28 pm
“And thinking he’s gonna have the ready for SD is a fckng stretch.”
Hue how about this week give is half the camera time and twice the coaching!
November 6th, 2011 at 8:28 pm
Pathetic fckng homestand, 1 and two, to fckng teams that shoulda been stomped.
These are NOT your fathers Raiders.
November 6th, 2011 at 8:30 pm
Kelly said it’s even more frustrating because the Broncos ran plays the Raiders practiced against all week and have seen before.
“They have been running the same thing since they put (Tebow) in there,” Kelly said. “They’re running that college (stuff), that zone (stuff). Read it, quarterback going to hold it. Man, we practiced that (stuff) all week. It’s not like they came out there with some new package or scheme. We ain’t seen nothing we ain’t been seeing. First half, we got off the field. Second half, we spit the bit out.”
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Somehow, Al Davis must be to blame for this. Right MR?
November 6th, 2011 at 8:30 pm
Coach Jackson, try turnin some of the play callin over to your OC, can’t hurt? And ram your foot up the ass of your DC just for good measure. Muuch appreciated.
November 6th, 2011 at 8:31 pm
Refs were screwing us big time today. This loss is 70% horrible defense, 30% refs reaming the raiders all game.
November 6th, 2011 at 8:31 pm
The Raiders activated McClain, but they intended to use him only if needed. Darrly Blackstock replaced McClain in the starting lineup and played fine.
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???!!!
November 6th, 2011 at 8:31 pm
joepa is effed
November 6th, 2011 at 8:32 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
November 6th, 2011 at 8:28 pm
Hue how about this week give is half the camera time and twice the coaching!
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Coaching? Has jackson been actually coaching? You coulda fooled me.
November 6th, 2011 at 8:32 pm
DHB,besides the running backs,are youre go to guy,PERIOD So Hue uses others,for some jackass reason?And where is Boss,wtf? Sorry,ive got mixed feelins about this coach,pretty full of himself,period
November 6th, 2011 at 8:33 pm
Noticed Steve makes mistakes a few times a week. Pretty sure Blackstock was prettyfar from “fine”.
When the Donks put up that kind of yardage on teh ground your MLB has to have some accountability. I watched the game and several NOT fine plays were blown by Blackstock
November 6th, 2011 at 8:34 pm
San Diego is gonna be fcking pissed because you know they felt they coulda beat GB. They fckn pissed about it.
We dont know what the fck to think about our embarrassment. We will be more fckng concerened about bein waxed that we’ll prepare for.
Losin sucks ass, but gettin fcked up tha ass fckn hurts. We just fckn bent over and denver brought it home. and we fckn liked it. you could tell the way they fckng walked around after gettin torched.
November 6th, 2011 at 8:35 pm
I’m so pissed that I spent so much on tickets today. I know most players are millionaires, but at least the defense could have pretended they were there the second half. Decent tickets aren’t cheap. The fans are supporting the team, the team really let down the fans. I agree that Hue’s head was getting big there for a while. He needs to realize that he hasn’t accomplished nothing yet! Cable was 8-8. At this point, I don’t know if we can even accomplish that!
November 6th, 2011 at 8:35 pm
23.ZebraHunter Says:
November 6th, 2011 at 8:31 pm
Refs were screwing us big time today. This loss is 70% horrible defense, 30% refs reaming the raiders all game.
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Yep ZH, Once again the Refs made questionable calls and missed a couple of calls against Denver.
November 6th, 2011 at 8:35 pm
We sucked today.
That is all…
November 6th, 2011 at 8:38 pm
Camp seemed to be able to refocus the Raiders when wacky **** went down and this team cometed whistle to whistle. I’m not sure we saw that today…
Palmer will take command of this team and he will amke plays. This is fixable and we will win.
November 6th, 2011 at 8:38 pm
29.Whats Goin On Says:
November 6th, 2011 at 8:34 pm
San Diego is gonna be fcking pissed because you know they felt they coulda beat GB. They fckn pissed about it.
We dont know what the fck to think about our embarrassment. We will be more fckng concerened about bein waxed that we’ll prepare for.
Losin sucks ass, but gettin fcked up tha ass fckn hurts. We just fckn bent over and denver brought it home. and we fckn liked it. you could tell the way they fckng walked around after gettin torched.
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ROTFLOL That’s alot of fckns. hahaha
November 6th, 2011 at 8:38 pm
Thursday night is going to be an absolute debacle. It’s gonna seem amazingly like Art Shell and Tom Walsh are back in town. Anyone who thinks the team I saw today is gonna roll into San Diego and do better than the last two pathetic games needs to put the sock down and put the paint can away. I hate that, but I really see it that way.
This team after Thursday will be LUCKY to sniff 7-9. And, once again, there’s always next year….
Hue is just a huckster, a BS artist with nothing to back up the talk. This is his one and only chance to be an NFL head coach and, after this year, you won’t hear Bresnahan’s name associated with an NFL team again.
It’s not all about Campbell’s injury. Hue’s cute BS was starting to catch up with him before that. He’s been writing checks with his mouth that his coaching can’t cover.
Fact.
November 6th, 2011 at 8:39 pm
I am fckng tryin to be positive, but it ain’t that fckng easy after the ass reamin we took today. It was like denver said, bend over, its goin to hurt, but be a man about it, not a bicth.
November 6th, 2011 at 8:40 pm
Carl Weathers Says:
November 6th, 2011 at 7:59 pm
591.La Milicia Negra Says:
November 6th, 2011 at 7:56 pm
Carl Weathers Says:
November 6th, 2011 at 5:05 pm
163.TheToozFan55 Says:
November 6th, 2011 at 5:04 pm
i was embarassed when the fans were shouting “Tebow Sucks”.
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Same here.
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Why? had it been Cutler you had lauged your a55 off..
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I think that chan before half time really lit a fire under their asses and it showeed at the end of the game with Mcgahee taunting the crowd.
Save it for the end of the game when we’ve won.
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I totally agree, taunt them after the game, no eaosn to fire’em up!
November 6th, 2011 at 8:40 pm
f@kk Torrey Smith could have won the game!
I hate the steelers
November 6th, 2011 at 8:42 pm
There’s an old saying… “Don’t let your tongue get your teeth knocked out”.
That’s pretty much what Hue has been doing…
November 6th, 2011 at 8:43 pm
La Milicia Negra Says:
November 5th, 2011 at 7:41 pm
as of tomorrows game… i better say we lose, (so we’ll win).. when a say a sure win we end up losing, so my guess is 38-24..
http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2011/11/04/most-raiders-gush-about-broncos-qb-tebow/comment-page-12/#comment-703030
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at least I wont the prediction-game, though I rather have had the team win!
November 6th, 2011 at 8:44 pm
woooow, what a game!
November 6th, 2011 at 8:44 pm
I’m fckng outta here. thanks for lettin me vent in here. It aint right takin it up the ass. Wasn’t made for that. To be a Raider fan is fkng painful. You never get used to the ass reamin. never.
Its fun to lay it on another team, but painful when we’re the recipients of the one eyed trouser snake.
peace out!
November 6th, 2011 at 8:44 pm
the comments about cable being a better coach are so off base.first of all we are 4-4 and cable with a much weaker schedule went 8-8. Also cable was so good that when he was on the open market not 1 team even interviewed him for a HC position. Hue is a talented offensive minded coach who has made some mistakes. He does put himself out there and instead of having 6 or 7 WRs , he should have focused on more playmakers on the defensive side of the ball. Seymour tends to get alot of criticism but imo our real problem is our ends and outside linebackers rarely control the edge.wimbley is an above average pass rusher but he does nothing for us in the run game. then add when dvd and routt as our corners who have to be the most timid cbs when it comes to tackling. i really feel Chuck B needs to go ,as his d unit in 2 out of 8 games has given up 30+ points in a 2nd half . the broncos were running 3 plays and chuck b made no adjustments. Huejack is an offensive minded coach and we need to get a legit dcoordinator coupled with a gm who can actually get some defensive playmakers. with our offense, our D only needs to be average and we will win the diviNycraider Says:
November 6th, 2011 at 8:29 pm
the comments about cable being a better coach are so off base.first of all we are 4-4 and cable with a much weaker schedule went 8-8. Also cable was so good that when he was on the open market not 1 team even interviewed him for a HC position. Hue is a talented offensive minded coach who has made some mistakes. He does put himself out there and instead of having 6 or 7 WRs , he should have focused on more playmakers on the defensive side of the ball. Seymour tends to get alot of criticism but imo our real problem is our ends and outside linebackers rarely control the edge.wimbley is an above average pass rusher but he does nothing for us in the run game. then add when dvd and routt as our corners who have to be the most timid cbs when it comes to tackling. i really feel Chuck B needs to go ,as his d unit in 2 out of 8 games has given up 30+ points in a 2nd half . the broncos were running 3 plays and chuck b made no adjustments. Huejack is an offensive minded coach and we need to get a legit dcoordinator coupled with a gm who can actually get some defensive playmakers. with our offense, our D only needs to be average and we will win the diviNycraider Says:
November 6th, 2011 at 8:29 pm
the comments about cable being a better coach are so off base.first of all we are 4-4 and cable with a much weaker schedule went 8-8. Also cable was so good that when he was on the open market not 1 team even interviewed him for a HC position. Hue is a talented offensive minded coach who has made some mistakes. He does put himself out there and instead of having 6 or 7 WRs , he should have focused on more playmakers on the defensive side of the ball. Seymour tends to get alot of criticism but imo our real problem is our ends and outside linebackers rarely control the edge.wimbley is an above average pass rusher but he does nothing for us in the run game. then add when dvd and routt as our corners who have to be the most timid cbs when it comes to tackling. i really feel Chuck B needs to go ,as his d unit in 2 out of 8 games has given up 30+ points in a 2nd half . the broncos were running 3 plays and chuck b made no adjustments. Huejack is an offensive minded coach and we need to get a legit dcoordinator coupled with a gm who can actually get some defensive playmakers. with our offense, our D only needs to be average and we will win the diviNycraider Says:
November 6th, 2011 at 8:29 pm
the comments about cable being a better coach are so off base.first of all we are 4-4 and cable with a much weaker schedule went 8-8. Also cable was so good that when he was on the open market not 1 team even interviewed him for a HC position. Hue is a talented offensive minded coach who has made some mistakes. He does put himself out there and instead of having 6 or 7 WRs , he should have focused on more playmakers on the defensive side of the ball. Seymour tends to get alot of criticism but imo our real problem is our ends and outside linebackers rarely control the edge.wimbley is an above average pass rusher but he does nothing for us in the run game. then add when dvd and routt as our corners who have to be the most timid cbs when it comes to tackling. i really feel Chuck B needs to go ,as his d unit in 2 out of 8 games has given up 30+ points in a 2nd half . the broncos were running 3 plays and chuck b made no adjustments. Huejack is an offensive minded coach and we need to get a legit dcoordinator coupled with a gm who can actually get some defensive playmakers. with our offense, our D only needs to be average and we will win the divi
November 6th, 2011 at 8:47 pm
36.Whats Goin On Says:
November 6th, 2011 at 8:39 pm
I am fckng tryin to be positive, but it ain’t that fckng easy after the ass reamin we took today. It was like denver said, bend over, its goin to hurt, but be a man about it, not a bicth.
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lol
November 6th, 2011 at 8:47 pm
Some of the posts in here are crazy. Carson sucks, Hue sucks, blame it all on TJ, Currys stupid, refs have it out for us, fire everyone…..blah blah blah. Hue Jack is forced to change the offense mid season, you pull a quarterback (a very good one) off the beach two weeks ago, give him 8 practices with a new team and expect him to be perfect. I’ll take the improvement from his last game to this one and know there still half a season to go. The offense will be fine, their just having to start over mid season, without Mcfadden. No excuse for the defense, thats bothersome. Not enought healthy DB’s, starting MLB out, bad coordinator, all kinds of issues. 5-3 second half still gets us in. The team will get better moving on
November 6th, 2011 at 8:51 pm
Where’s the leadership in defense ?
November 6th, 2011 at 8:54 pm
Raiders fans are funny you only see a certain batch of us show up when we win and another batch when we lose. I swear if I see another Tom Cable for head coach I’m going to puke.
November 6th, 2011 at 8:55 pm
nycraider Says:
November 6th, 2011 at 8:44 pm
the comments about cable being a better coach are so off base.first of all we are 4-4 and cable with a much weaker schedule went 8-8. Also cable was so good that when he was on the open market not 1 team even interviewed him for a HC position.
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I think the issue is you want to see improvement. Week to week from individual players and the team. Palmer, I think, improved from his lst start. DHB has improved this year from his prior years. Curry played well. He seems to be on the right track. When you lose back to back games from division opponents, at home, who you absolutely toasted last year, you have to soul search. That’s where the coaching comparison comes from.
November 6th, 2011 at 8:56 pm
Mikedlopes Says:
November 6th, 2011 at 8:10 pm
This offense is nothing without DMAC. Ever since we lost him the whole team deflated.
Carson Palmer though, some of his throws though.. Amazing accuracy
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If Hue doesn’t eff it up, once Palmer gets a little more comfortable and DMAC is healthy, this offense could be special.
The defense is atrocious though. What a pathetic showing.
November 6th, 2011 at 8:56 pm
Funny seeing Misty make an appearance in here today with the Campbell propaganda. This cat is no fan of the Raiders. Only Campbell. He was sitting at home rooting against Palmer, I CAN ASSURE YOU.
Bagging on Palmer after just 2 weeks when it took Campbell a FULL YEAR to get comfortable in this offense is weak sauce.
Your act is tired, Misty. Give it up.
November 6th, 2011 at 8:57 pm
I tell you sumthin, that Tebow fella looked mighty damn sharp and polished. He looked damn good in the way he went bout his bizness.
You know the Raider D is so damn easy to pick apart, Denver reciever was wide open all day. All damn day. When you game plan the Raider D, not that hard. Not that hard at all.
Tebow ate that Raider D. The game plan was not that hard for the Denver O after what they seen of the Raider D.
Just aint that damn hard.
November 6th, 2011 at 8:59 pm
Nothing like the Raiders D for an ailing Tebow, eh? We made that guy look real good. Heck, most of us here could have fared ok against our D the way receivers were running open for Denver.
November 6th, 2011 at 9:01 pm
Very good base to work from here with a legit QB and MClain hopefully back.
Steve winged it saying Black stock was fine. Like a Carson pick. He was far from fine.
Bad things but fixable and a talented team that can win.
November 6th, 2011 at 9:02 pm
WORRY about Satele. Barksdale at LG filling for Wizzer who scotted to Center was a disaster in protection. Very bad bad things if we have to pass against SD and Barks is at G.
November 6th, 2011 at 9:02 pm
Imagine what today would have been like if Boller started.
November 6th, 2011 at 9:04 pm
Something tells me we’re fvcked without Rolando on that defense .. and Hue jack keeps dialing up passing plays at home to score quick for the fans , I see more Running plays get called on the road I dont know if it’s a fact cuz I haven’t checke the stats but I really do feel like thats the case with the team and hue trys to go for the kill alot of times …
November 6th, 2011 at 9:04 pm
How hard it is to game plan against the Raider D. Not very hard. I am so scared for the SD game cuz Rivers game plan against the Raider D is gonna be a page outta today. But worse, cuz Tebow had his WRs’ open and easy all day. Not that hard for Tebow, Rivers scarin me. Raider D will give up. That is the game plan. Not that hard.
Not very hard to game plan against Raider D. You saw what Tebow did. Not that hard. You saw how wide open and untouched his WRs’ were. Not that hard, gonna be simple for Rivers.
Puke and more puke, this loss is disgusting. You know there are NC@A schools that could eat Raider Ds’ lunch. Not that hard. Game plan against Raider D: easy. Toast’em once and the melt. Raider D will even help you out. They give you a hundred yards in penalties.
Softest D in the league. Tebow toasted them.
November 6th, 2011 at 9:05 pm
“Where’s the leadership in defense ?”
It doesn’t exist; it never has. Raiders put little stock in getting such players.
November 6th, 2011 at 9:06 pm
I’m quick scores …
November 6th, 2011 at 9:10 pm
53,not sure about the D being fixable,or the DC,imoCmon,KC in a shutout,and now getting our ares handed to us again,after a bye?
November 6th, 2011 at 9:13 pm
Code black still
November 6th, 2011 at 9:19 pm
With running back Michael Bush pounding away (73 first-half yards, on 11 carries) and Palmer getting accustomed to his receivers, Oakland’s 17-7 lead over Denver figured to grow after halftime.
But the Broncos owned the second half, using their ground game to pummel the Raiders for 230 of their 298 rushing yards. This is the same Denver team that previously couldn’t gain an inch on an empty golf course. Running back Willis McGahee finished with 163 yards, on 20 carries. Tebow barreled for 117, on 12.
November 6th, 2011 at 9:20 pm
from Poole article
November 6th, 2011 at 9:21 pm
Defense and special teams lost the game today.
November 6th, 2011 at 9:25 pm
Damn no first or second round pick hurts. Maybe we get lucky & somehow end up with Robert griffin III, or maybe we can bring in Vince young or garrard if jc doesn’t return.
Everybody was so swept up in the hype of Palmer & this block buster trade. Just remember you can’t spell block buster without the word bust. So far the early returns aren’t good. What happens if Palmer flops & jc is healthy enough to play?
November 6th, 2011 at 9:25 pm
Raiders will get destroyed by Bolts Thurs.
Team has no heart, no pride, and no leadership.
They look for ways to lose instead of win.
The loser mentality has permeated this team and lockeroom like so many before it.
Hue had a chance to break the cycle but he blew it by changing the identity of the team after Campbell injury.
We are not a 300 yard passing team. Defense can’t be on the field the whole game.
F’N Pathetic.
November 6th, 2011 at 9:28 pm
If any other qb on this team would have thrown 3 picks you guys would want to run him out of town. Yet somehow Palmer is off limits.
November 6th, 2011 at 9:29 pm
Seriously why did we get away from running the ball in the second half? You only get away from your run game when you are losing.
And speaking of running, how many touches did T. Jones get? I think Hue has forgotten what won us 4 games. It damn sure isn’t our passing game
November 6th, 2011 at 9:32 pm
I wonder if DHB had some off the field issue. I can’t understand why he wouldn’t play if he isn’t hurt or sick.
November 6th, 2011 at 9:36 pm
Tebow owns Palmer & the raiders in a humiliating loss. Housh & Palmer don’t look good. Romac was severely missed. Curry showed he needs to be reigned in a bit. Henderson showed his age. Routt was abused. DHB mysteriously sidelined.
We have issues
November 6th, 2011 at 9:37 pm
I agree with most of what you said, but how was Routt abused?
November 6th, 2011 at 9:37 pm
Something positive I don’t think we can question Ford and Palmer’s chemistry. Ford was awesome today and Reece showed us why we missed the last few games. Too bad their performances were overshadowed by the horrific defense.
November 6th, 2011 at 9:37 pm
Jackson said. “We had certain sets where we have a bunch of guys targeting for those particular sets because of comfortability.
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The only way I could buy this is if they were running a lot more deep routes. Those are the only routes Moore looks more comfortable than DHB.
Not that DHB on the bench was why we lost. Its not like we benched Andre Johnson. Moore probably cost us an INT but there were much bigger reasons why we lost. Just hard to buy that explanation.
November 6th, 2011 at 9:43 pm
Hate to say it but I wonder if these guys are all in or slack sometimes, Raiders suck after byes.
November 6th, 2011 at 9:44 pm
A complete and utterly disappointing game. Espn said this “The Raiders are a bit of a mystery right now.
They are 0-2 since trading two premium draft picks for Palmer. He has thrown six interceptions in six quarters with the Raiders. Oakland has problems on defense and its offense is clearly out of sorts with the sudden quarterback change from Jason Campbell to Palmer. The Raiders have loads of talent, but they have to quickly get their house in order.” WTFlip does ESPN know! Nothing! Hue and the team let this happened. Palmer has no business being on the team. Seymour sit his ass down, if McClain doesn’t want to play send him packing also. Matter of fact, send any unwilling player down the road in a hurry!!!!!!
November 6th, 2011 at 9:45 pm
67 and 69,You dont have a clue,period!Palmer did a fine job today,and will get BETTER!As for 3 ints,werent all his fault!And even if they were,Snake thru 7 against KC,in KC!77777,The DC and defense lost this game,period oh,and Special Teams
November 6th, 2011 at 9:45 pm
Screw you Hue Jackson!!! Iam tired Of hearing its your fault everytime we lose, how about fixing the most obvious problem. Penalties!!!! And stop playing the players u love. He better release Housh bring back Hagan!!! Murphy has no business been on special team, he should go on IR for been a lil b*tch n catches one pass n draws a penalty wtf!!!. Blakcstock go back to the fukin UFL and take our so D-cord with you. Iam fukin pissed!!! If we don’t have DMAC n McClain for TNF we are done!!!!!
November 6th, 2011 at 9:45 pm
They just lack focus and discipline, thats why they come back from being with families and relaxation and have a hard time getting back to football,
November 6th, 2011 at 9:46 pm
72. right on
November 6th, 2011 at 9:48 pm
I’m mad at Hue for making me believe in this team.
At the end of the day, all it is political talk that every coach in the league gives you. New coach comes in talking bout “tradition”, belief that “we have a good team primed for the playoffs”, etc. etc. etc. It’s the same stuff EVERY new coach says and I bought into it. Shame on me.
After today, I have no faith in THIS team. It sucks that now all have is the hope that NEXT YEAR brings us a competitive team that can LEGITIMITELY go for the playoffs.
Things will open up. We’ll get some guys on defense to improve there and we do have some things to build on, but once again we have to wait.
Hue said this was a team that he feels can challenge for the Super Bowl…NOW!. Ha. Are u freaking kidding me?
I root for the Raiders. It’s in my blood, but we are done for this year. It’s gonna be another losing season. Listen, if we get “bullied” by Denver…DENVER PEOPLE…with TIM FREAKING TEBOW…C’mon.
We still have to play Detroit, SD (Twice), AT Green Bay and after today, I don’t even know if we beat Miami. Oh, and we have to play AT KC too.
What a damn letdown. Thanks for nothing.
November 6th, 2011 at 9:49 pm
I’m pizzed! What happened to Raider football? It went out the door! Jax?
November 6th, 2011 at 9:49 pm
Man…what a horrible horrible game.
This is what i saw:
Hue Jackson has spent far too much time recently trying to be a gm, and clearly not enough time coaching his players.
The raiders defense is as undisciplined as any i have seen. The horrible horrible personal fouls, the missed assignments, the blown coverages. Again, at some point, this becomes a sign of bad coaching.
Offensively, we have a qb who can make some incredible throws, but who throws picks which largely negate the positive things he does.
We have a solid running game, but a coach who really wants to play with his new passing toys, and who is going away from the ground and pound philosophy which worked well in the beginning of the season.
this is what i hope:
Now that Hue jack has HIS team, he stops trying to be a gm, and focuses on getting his team right.
That this is still a really good team which is going through transition, is struggling, but will get it right soon.
That Palmer is throwing these picks because he’s only been in the system 3 weeks, and soon he’ll eliminate these 3 int games.
that this is a defense which will finally see a game that was lost because of their numerous horrible penalties, and will stop the late hits, the roughing the passer, and the various other horrible penalties.
That chuck can work on the missed assignments and the big plays.
This team has all the talent in the world, but it has got to stop self destructing. We lost to ourselves today. There wasn’t a single good play denver made. All of tebow’s downfield passes were to wide open players. Everyone of their big runs were on blown assignments. Get your mind right, and the rest will follow.
November 6th, 2011 at 9:50 pm
post77,Well said,RAIDERS
November 6th, 2011 at 9:51 pm
From Monte Poole’s article on the loss comes this quote from Tommy Kelly:
“I’m shocked,” Kelly said. “Ain’t no way I thought that team could put 38 points on us with that quarterback. This hurt more than Buffalo.”
And there, ladies and gentleman is how a team loses to what they perceive as an inferior team. Just as I said, they didn’t they there was any way they could or would lose and we all know what happens when that becomes a mind-set. Each individual starts thinking he doesn’t HAVE to play up to high standards because the other team is just soooo bad, and besides, his teammates won’t let it happen.
November 6th, 2011 at 9:52 pm
The expectations of Raider fans and Raiders are very low. There is no excuse for this performance yet the players on this team put it out there week after week after week.
Same ole tired B.S.
This team may need to be “restructured”
The defense is terrible AGAIN. Terrible year after year after year.
Lots of overrated players on that side of the ball.
And Rolondo McClain is not that good that he would have materially changed the outcome of this game.
Too many “who cares” players on that raggedy pos defense
November 6th, 2011 at 9:52 pm
correction: “they didn’t *think* there was any way they could or would lose…”
November 6th, 2011 at 9:54 pm
I agree that Rolando wouldn’t have mattered. Oh, and that’s another beef I have–a high draft choice spent on him, a guy who is at best mediocre in physical play and from what I can see, less than average in leadership qualities.
November 6th, 2011 at 9:54 pm
spots to review and build upon.
635.2romes Says:
November 6th, 2011 at 9:36 pm
Incredulous, on any given sunday they claim. Yes, Tebow vs the Raiders. believe, believe, any given sunday is foe real!!! What is not for real is the Raiders. yes, my favorite team in the NFL. I will do fine watching teams I don’t love play a good NFL game.
Hue, before you said this loss is on you and for once I believe you. You are totally right. Hue, This loss is on you!!!! Bush is more of a full back than a half back and you replaced Jason Camball with a quaterback not a field goal kickers. Hue, you need to do the same when replacing McFadden.You need to Replace McFadden with a home run threat. If you don’t want to play Taiwan Jone at that position then play Cartwright. By the way, I don’t believe Taiwan is the fastest guy on the Raiders. Someone in the back field must be there that has the ability to break a run on any part for the field at any time and M.Bush, althought I love, him and he is a good player does not fit that bill!!!!!
Think!!!! does any team in the NFL have this theroy!!! M. bush is more like a full back. Dose a full back dictate the pace of the game today??? Who is he and I want him on the Raider’s team. We know the team cannot hold on to a lead so that means the team has to be treat each and every time The Raiders touch the ball. If you want Ball control play Bush. If you want to stay a head of teams with alot of time on the clock or come back on teams when you need a quick score, look for another running back for that kind of support!!!!!
I believed in all the moves Hue Jackon made with the exception of him playing J.T. and playing Lito shepperd if DVD was not hurt. The QB position was totally different. The Raider had no starting QB and the Raiders got one. The Raiders got Rookie starting cornersbacks and recievers that play equally or better than the replacements. It only breaks the moral of the young players when within one week they are playing washed up vets that have not proved themself to the team and your team before them have been winning.Play to win and if you win the point is made. The Raiders loss.
In all this is a mess!!!! Hue can fix it. you Have to trust in your young players. You have players that can make big plays. The Raiders are starting to lean more on old crutches while they recuit
November 6th, 2011 at 9:55 pm
Remember that jackass Jackson is a loud, arrogant idiot chosen by a head coach, in his death throes, with dimentia who should have thrown out of the NFL after 1983, when he figured out winning lawsuits with clever attorneys was easier than winning Super Bowls. Unfortunately, upon Al’s demise we have the black jackass unleased with no restraint, and we see the result: disaster. We will go 6 and 10 this year. Mark Davis SHOULD FIRE HUE. THERE IS NO FUTURE IN THE RAIDERS ORGANIZATION FOR BIG MOUTH HUE.
Also, the first thing that should happen tomorrow morning is that Richard (the worthless) Seymore should be should be slapped across the face with an ax handle and fired from the team. He’s done nothing this year except unleash idiot personal fouls for 15 yard penalities.
We should rescind the contract of Carson Palmer and TJ, cut DHB, re-hire Hagan, and use Terrel Pryor as QB now that the seaon is lost.
To think that we’ll beat the Chargers after they have come off two consequtive loses is ridiculous since they are looking for payback.
I also think once Hue is fired at the end of the season we should trade away McFadden. Granted he is an excellent back, but remember this season he has done little while playing Tier 1 teams. Also part of a player’s greatness is durability, and Mcfadden has little of that during his history in the NFL. He should be re-name McGlassden.
Finally, please Hue, shut the F up. One thing I can’t stand is an idiot on a bully pulpit. Hue is fit as a snake oil salesman or preacher. As a head coach in the NFL, the guy doesn’t cut it.
Hiring an outstanding GM and coach will cure what ails the Raiders, and quickly at that; witness the 49ers at 7 and 1.
November 6th, 2011 at 9:55 pm
McClain is way better then Blackstock period!!!! I like what I saw out of CP but how do you get beat on the ground that way??? Defense is our weak link n shows up when it want.
November 6th, 2011 at 9:58 pm
GoodOle00 Says:
November 6th, 2011 at 8:31 pm
The Raiders activated McClain, but they intended to use him only if needed. Darrly Blackstock replaced McClain in the starting lineup and played fine.
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hell ya and he also said if things went bananas out there. Um hello 268 yds rushing aint bananas.
November 6th, 2011 at 9:58 pm
Mizza said,
“We have a solid running game, but a coach who really wants to play with his new passing toys, and who is going away from the ground and pound philosophy which worked well in the beginning of the season.”
I agree whole-heartedly. He’s as excited with CP as a boy at X-Mas whose found a remote-control operated airplane. Thing is, he hasn’t accepted yet that Palmer is rusty. We can’t afford the interceptions since we have such crap for a defense.
November 6th, 2011 at 9:58 pm
Season on the line Thursday!
November 6th, 2011 at 9:59 pm
Actually Tommy Kelly, you gave up 41 points seeing as Denver took points off the board at the end of the half. 41…to TEBOW AND DENVER.
By the way Hue, do u have any big statements about how much a sellout crowd means to the team? Fans gave u the sellouts. You gave us CRAP. Thanks.
November 6th, 2011 at 9:59 pm
Oh, and yes, Jackson seems to have backed off the trick plays that cost us two weeks ago, but he replaced them with his pass-happy throws. Heck, if he wants CP to throw, then throw more to the backs. It worked with Bush.
November 6th, 2011 at 10:00 pm
Tommy Kelly and Richard Seymour have run their course.
There comes a time for a player where it’s less about coach and it’s on the onus of the player to maintain discipline. This entire defense needs to be blown up and restructured. It’s not working. They have been vastly overrated for too long by this organization and I’m tired of it. The Palmer trade was made because Hue (and many other people that post here) thought a quarterback was the one piece that was missing from this team when that was far from the truth. Now we’re most likely stuck with what we got from here on out with no picks to make moves with.
November 6th, 2011 at 10:01 pm
Tricky,
Too much Madden 12….a QB will fix EVERYTHING!
November 6th, 2011 at 10:03 pm
89,stfu,youre handle is out of line,and a spelling check is in order,moron,IMO
November 6th, 2011 at 10:03 pm
91. I dont know about bananas, but it sure was ape shcit….
November 6th, 2011 at 10:03 pm
@89 Lol we are still right in the thick of things I don’t think its time to throw in the towel quite yet. Cmon guys we’ve been through much worse than this. By we I mean we as fans not we as in the team
November 6th, 2011 at 10:05 pm
2romes,
That’s a terrible post. The defense gives up 38 points, the QB throws 3 picks and you point to the running back?
Folks, this is not Madden 12…..oooh lets just run a bunch of sweeps to the outside and we will eventually hit.
Garbage.
Real teams play defense……
This Raider team still has NO CLUE what toughness and defense is all about.
If you can’t stop the run….you can’t win.
And this team has really no idea how to either consistently
November 6th, 2011 at 10:05 pm
MR, bite me! Go away, you are useless!!!
November 6th, 2011 at 10:05 pm
The fact is cambell was the leader if this team in my eyes. Dmac injury prone again this yr he starts of so freakin good then boom he gets injured. This blog was hating on Romac all season and now they say we need him out there. To me this was the worst the D has looked all yr and romac was not out there this game calling plays and so on and we got killed. Bummer loss im sure everyones sick to there stomach. Things dont look good right now guess we will see if this team has any pride on thursday.
November 6th, 2011 at 10:06 pm
89. Typical degenerate, classless, uncouth, imbecile who is probably a pathetic troll.
November 6th, 2011 at 10:08 pm
Hilarious.
“Jackson sucks!” Give it a rest. U don;t know what you’re talking about. 2nd yr as a HC ever. loses his mentor and boss, has the franchise dumped on him and loses his franchise QB and then his franchise RB and then the QB of the D and then when they stumble people just angry want to hang him.
We’re stil in it. We will win it.
This temas good and now they’ve got a real QB for the first time since Gannon and more talent than any team Oakland has ever fielded.
We will win…
November 6th, 2011 at 10:10 pm
This type of run game was unorthodox out of the shotgun… I think raider D holds SD run attack just comes down to making rivers add on to that INT column
November 6th, 2011 at 10:11 pm
Did Lito even play?
November 6th, 2011 at 10:11 pm
GoodOle,
You only get so many “my-bads” before its all bad.
That defense gets all this money….one of the highest paid in the league….and it rarely does anything positive.
At its best…it doesn’t get in the way…at its worst…it outright loses games.
That’s TWO horrendous 2nd halves.
For a team with a linebacker paid like Ray Lewis and the highest paid DT combo in the league.
WHere are the standards around here?
November 6th, 2011 at 10:11 pm
Even with Rolo and D Mac we lose this game. Outplayed and outcoached period. Hard to build a bully with players who can’t tackle or stay in their gaps. Pretty pathetic really. I don’t think I can watch Thursday.
November 6th, 2011 at 10:12 pm
This team sucked on every count today! This was not my Raiders on the field, this was disgrace to AD, and the Nation! I’m so pizzed!
November 6th, 2011 at 10:14 pm
105,
Not this year.
Look at the schedule (keeping in mind we just got humiliated by Tim freaking Tebow).
-AT KC
-SD (twice)
-Detroit
-AT Green Bay
…nuff said. And after today can u assure anybody the Raiders even beat Miami?
They’re done.
November 6th, 2011 at 10:15 pm
Zero gap responsibility and couldnt contain the edges, absolute abysmal showing on the defense. The Raiders have always had trouble with run plays out of the shotgun. The biggest detriment to this defense is over pursuit and that problem has permeated for decades.
November 6th, 2011 at 10:16 pm
108. That Ray Lewis LB didn’t play today.
Front 4 has under produced. Miss Shaughnessy. Houston has disappeared. Moss, Wimbley, Scott liabilities against the run today.
November 6th, 2011 at 10:17 pm
89, Who is WE,are ya a season ticket holder,cuz you could then say we,but YOURE NOT,youre little mr/mrs/sully,a hater
November 6th, 2011 at 10:18 pm
Wimbley is paid like Ray Lewis. I am sick and tired of these overpaid players letting the Raider team down every year.
Every freekn year.
Seymour, Wimbley, Routt and TK. Where they at?
You could have found anyone else and saved the cash and come away with the same results.
Disgraceful
November 6th, 2011 at 10:19 pm
Hendu, MR, butt suckin troll of the year, yes he got the Emmy, is post 89. Don’t take the bait!
November 6th, 2011 at 10:19 pm
People just don’t know. Its not the end of the world. It just sucks really bad…
332 yds 3 TDs? With 8 practices under his belt? C’mon man, we get DMac back and Ro mac and we back in it.
We’re tied so its zero zero zero. All even and we’re getting guys back (we hope)
November 6th, 2011 at 10:21 pm
Bad undisciplined defense got smoked by College level crap. Missing players but yuck. It was ugly.
November 6th, 2011 at 10:23 pm
Fans are just as bad as the players, if not worse. We heard Tommy Kelly talk like Denver had no right beating them, but just the other day there were predictions in here of finishing the year 11-5 or 12-4.
LOL. Care to change that prediction?
Like I said before, all games will be a battle. This team doesn’t know how to put inferior teams away. It is it’s own worst enemy.
And the coaching needs to improve by leaps and bounds. This team showed no discipline whatsoever. Also, the entire stadium knew what Denver was going to run on offense, yet our D took it right in the keister. Good coaching could have figured out how to stop that crap with 7 mediocre guys in their front 7. Either the coaches have their heads firmly planted or our guys are GROSSLY overrated. IMO, I think the answer is somewhere in the middle and a little of both.
November 6th, 2011 at 10:23 pm
Djohnnyg Says:
November 6th, 2011 at 10:14 pm
105,
Not this year.
Look at the schedule (keeping in mind we just got humiliated by Tim freaking Tebow).
-AT KC
-SD (twice)
-Detroit
-AT Green Bay
…nuff said. And after today can u assure anybody the Raiders even beat Miami?
They’re done.
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Don’t forget at Minnesota.
Good lord, they’re going to have Adrian Peterson in handcuffs by the end of that game.
November 6th, 2011 at 10:25 pm
GoodOle, This team is better than that, poor execution, poor planing, this should of been a W in anyones court. I’m so F’n pizzed at this product, lets see the next time we sell out! Wanna bet!
November 6th, 2011 at 10:26 pm
So nice to see the Steelers get beat by the Ravens in the final seconds. I predicted the Ravens and Packers to meet in the Super Bowl BEFORE the season began. Anybody that doesn’t understand that the defense lost the game does not understand football. It’s very obvious why the Pats told Seymour to leave. He is the most undisciplined, overrated player I have ever seen. What is he good for, if not for helping the other team down the field with his never ending 15 yard penalties? The guy is a bad football player. Look in the mirror, Richard Seymour. Now wake up and play football like a MAN!
November 6th, 2011 at 10:28 pm
117,Otto,you just brought me back,I was lookin at the negatives,CP threw and the Wide Outs caught enough to WIN,focus is on the D,and the DC,and did they quit,as some have said?
November 6th, 2011 at 10:28 pm
i dont think we can blame the fans for being optimistic. It should be tempered with reality, Reality, but to lay blame on the fans is irresponsible. After enduring the last decade and selling out all home games this year the fanbase should be commended. The fans arent responsible for the product on the field. Thats on the coaching.
November 6th, 2011 at 10:28 pm
Al Davis did lose his marbles at the end. Bringing in Chuck Blowsnahan was a dumb move. Look at the 49ers. They bring in a real defensive coordinator and are looking to contend for a Super Bowl. We look like we’re ready to go to the Toilet Bowl.
November 6th, 2011 at 10:29 pm
Its going to take a major effort for this team to go 10-6.
The defense is just not good enough to do it in my opinion.
Unless there is a SERIOUS course correction, I just can’t see this defense being competitive
The Raiders have two more games to “give away” before it becomes improbable to make the playoffs.
Lions, Packers, Bears and Chargers put points on the board….
Vikings can run the football…..and a defense that allows Tebow and company to put up 38….you have to believe that K.C and Miami are in play too.
Will someone fix the mfn DEFENSE!
November 6th, 2011 at 10:31 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says
If my post was so terrible, you name a team that plays their running back like M. Bush the whole Game ??? IF you think of one I will except that my post is horrible a horrible post. If you cannot I feel you rebuking statement is unwarranted.
November 6th, 2011 at 10:32 pm
116,860Todd,I dont usually take the bait,but at times,I need to jump in,cuz hes NOT a RAIDER fan,just a moron hater
November 6th, 2011 at 10:32 pm
Two more mulligans….after that…well…its free agency and freeing up some of these ridiculous contracts paid on the defense.
Cause you can’t improve through the draft next year.
Some of these defensive players need to be told..this year or else.
If this team misses the playoffs….then Seymour, TK, Wimbley and Routt should be dismissed
November 6th, 2011 at 10:32 pm
GoodOle00 Says:
November 6th, 2011 at 10:19 pm
We’re tied so its zero zero zero. All even and we’re getting guys back (we hope)
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The problem is the strength of schedule. Chiefs and Raiders have an equally brutal second half schedule. The Chargers have some tough games, but based on everyone’s record as of today, they have the easiest remaining schedule.
Next week is do or die. We lose and this season is just about over.
November 6th, 2011 at 10:33 pm
No more bully talk. Not when we end up playing like a bunch of puzzys. Bresnahan is a disgrace. Why are you playing a dime alignment when the QB is NO PASSING THREAT? Why wasn’t one player like Curry assigned to not leave Tebow alone – under any circumstance? We should have been in a 5-2-4 alignment all day. Stop their run and you stop them. That’s NOT rocket science. Like I said, the defense was a disgrace today. Poor preparation and worse execution. Simply no excuse for that. Bresnahan needs to go back to the UFL where he is, at best, barely qualified.
November 6th, 2011 at 10:34 pm
And DMC needs to MAN up and play Thursday night, 100% or not.
November 6th, 2011 at 10:36 pm
125. What do you know about the organization. Bresnahan makes the calls. He doesnt play the game. If you cant see how pathetically lost that defense was then you should continue surfing. And to insinuate anything about someone losing it is reprehensible, callous and shows you intellectual inferiorty.
November 6th, 2011 at 10:36 pm
This game should of been won, it’s on Jax, he has too many things to do, can’t concentrate on any one thing. This is NOT Raider football!
November 6th, 2011 at 10:36 pm
Our defense plain sucked ass today. Been saying for long time to get rid of #27 Gio he does not cover nor tackle. Lito Sheppard should have been in game from the beginning. Most of all need to get Palmer from making all those int’s just inexcusable. Fraid to see what SD will do to us Thursday with a defense like we have, score will be probably 66 to 14.
November 6th, 2011 at 10:36 pm
@ #124 – Not blaming it on the fans. Point of that post was to say that folks need to temper their expectations and excitement. Fans deserve a ton of credit for sticking around during the past 10 years. That said, many here were ready to crown this team and it has yet to show us that it can take care of business against teams it should beat.
November 6th, 2011 at 10:39 pm
136. Loyal Raider fans, like you. Tempered with reality, Reality.
November 6th, 2011 at 10:39 pm
126,SnB,Cant argue with ya,its 75% on the Defense,and whos in charge?Chuck B
November 6th, 2011 at 10:41 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
By the way, I never talked about the defensive side of the ball. That is a whole different chapter. The problem of losing turned from on side of the ball to the whole team as of late so lets address it one at a time.
November 6th, 2011 at 10:41 pm
The Raider fans had every right to get excited. The trade for Carson Palmer was not a trade made by a team that is still building…that’s a move made by a team that believes its on the cusp of a Super Bowl.
Win Now?!?
Well, in the effort to try and build a high powered offense….everyone forgot..AGAIN…that you can’t win with a raggedy defense.
Is this defense good enough to go 2-1 against San Diego and Green Bay?
Cause the Raiders got two more losses…before its over for the year
November 6th, 2011 at 10:41 pm
5 sold out games, and these losers give us 2-3 at home. PATHETIC! Today’s players have no understanding of what Al Davis meant to the NFL and the city of Oakland. There is no pride in these guys. They are (mostly) overpaid prima donnas that can’t play with sore limbs. Fans shell out hard earned money to see a good team on the field, and we get garbage year in and year out. Get a GM to run the team, Mark Davis. We need a qualified leader of the Oakland Raiders!
November 6th, 2011 at 10:41 pm
Its not just the DC. It was proclaimed weeks ago about getting it right by the HC. The last two weeks have shown how the HC is either overwhelmed or incompetant.
November 6th, 2011 at 10:43 pm
131,JB,agreed,sorry to say,could comment more,whatever
November 6th, 2011 at 10:44 pm
141. The true fans are hurt the most. Its a paycheck for these players.
November 6th, 2011 at 10:46 pm
This is Bad & Hue is not the right coach for this team, it’s apparent he can’t make adjustments & his salesman approach is a joke
November 6th, 2011 at 10:47 pm
When AD passed away, there was no-one to say NO! We are living it, I’m sorry to say, We are going to tank. And I’d never think I’d be saying this of my beloved team. We lost to the Donkies, Al is rolling over, RIP AD!
November 6th, 2011 at 10:47 pm
133, Shut up, punk. I’ve followed this team religiously since 1972, and Al Davis has been bringing in losers at all levels of the coaching staff (with few exceptions) since the mid 80’s. It’s not callous. It’s a fact.
November 6th, 2011 at 10:47 pm
My problem with this team is that the defense has no responsibilities.
Most teams can rely on its defense when the offense struggles.
We can’t rely on the defense when the offense does well.
It is a terrible, terrible unit right now.
And to pay the coin the Raiders are paying makes the situation embarrassing for the players and coaches involved in this.!
November 6th, 2011 at 10:49 pm
Al Davis would be looking at other coaches right about now if he were alive & make a move at the end of the year..Hue is a snake oil salesman who has no clue in coaching & judging talent..I wish the Raiders looked at Jim H before he was hired by the niners..We got the wrong coach
November 6th, 2011 at 10:49 pm
I want to be friendly with everybody here. I’m just sick and tired of losing, especially when we are better than teams like Denver! It flat out is embarrassing and hurts deep down!
November 6th, 2011 at 10:50 pm
[..] niners continue to [..] despite being professional ass blowers [..]
Raiders will bounce back. Book it!
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November 6th, 2011 at 10:51 pm
As stated above, Hues move to get Palmer was good but the other moves he made, well, not so great. He needs to address it and get the team back on schedule to win the next game. Pulling DHB for this game did not go well.I don’t no the reason behind it but he was the most productive receiver going into the last few games.
November 6th, 2011 at 10:53 pm
To bad Mark & Amy are a Joke because neither will fire Hue at the end of the yr..Oh the misery continues!!!
November 6th, 2011 at 10:53 pm
147.Giving people an oppurtunity is what Mr. Davis did his whole life. Regardless of the skin color or pedigree. He didnt hire people to have them fail. They where given a golden opportunity and they themselves failed. And, one more thing, anytime, any state, any continent, name the place and watch what this punk does to you. Ill fly, drive or walk to meet you………
November 6th, 2011 at 10:53 pm
My week is busted, so is my team. I’m out, East Coast here and pizzed!
November 6th, 2011 at 10:53 pm
I’ve seen this played out before….Raiders look good in a game here and there….blow a couple of games here and there…and then finish with some cause for optimism.
Good teams do not make a habit of just losing games like this. 27-0 to KC…38 points to Tim Tebow…..30+ point meltdown in Buffalo….
Good teams don’t do this…and if you include the Patriot game…you gotta wonder what the hell kind of defense this is.
Talk is cheap! Put it on tape!
November 6th, 2011 at 10:55 pm
2romes: I agree with the DHB issue, what the hell is he thinking?..He has all the good talent yet he has NO clue on how to use it..We need a Chip Kelly from Oregon to come here, he at least does more with less
November 6th, 2011 at 10:55 pm
One major fault of this team is that they more often than naught play down to the level of weaker teams. Today was an excellent example. On the plus side, they often play much better when competing against better teams (i.e Jets, Texans, etc.) Thursday’s game is NOT an automatic loss just because it’s the Chargers. I fully expect to see us competitive in that game. We do however need DMac & Rolando McWhiffer back in the starting alignment. Romac is still much better than Blackstock. In addition, we need Boss back in this game. And, DHB needs to be included in the offense. Players need to play and they need to quit making stupid mistakes that result in penalties that continue drives. HuJack needs to stop with all the exotic trickery & get back to basics. Bullies beat people up, they don’t try to fool them. Smashmouth is the game – start playing it.
November 6th, 2011 at 10:56 pm
We could be drafting Dre Kirkpatrick or Morris Claiborne or Devon Still next year. Instead we’re stuck with a bunch of over paid under performers in Stanford Routt, TK, and Kam Wimbley.
November 6th, 2011 at 10:57 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
Have you thought about a NFL Team that runs a full back Like bush as half back all Game??? Get back at me on this one.
November 6th, 2011 at 10:57 pm
We need Jim H to coach this team, oh now the Niners are good again & the raiders will play out the late 80’s & 90’s..The PAIN!!
November 6th, 2011 at 10:57 pm
Post 154, MR, you never leave your mothers basement, so don’t make claims you can’t meet. Maybe you can get a job?
November 6th, 2011 at 10:58 pm
860Todd Christensen Says:
November 6th, 2011 at 10:47 pm
When AD passed away, there was no-one to say NO! We are living it, I’m sorry to say, We are going to tank. And I’d never think I’d be saying this of my beloved team. We lost to the Donkies, Al is rolling over, RIP AD!
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Agreed. I saw Al in the moves we were making right up to the Palmer trade. Then, with what has transpired over the past week or so, it took a different turn. With Al around, no way DHB disappears from the gameplan and no way is Hagan replaced with Housh. We already know that to be true because….well…Hue said so. lol.
Al wasn’t perfect, but you sometimes don’t realize how much you miss something until it’s gone. I’m afraid we may miss him more and more as the season goes on.
November 6th, 2011 at 10:58 pm
I hope Hue reads these comments & has enough balls & resigns now..
November 6th, 2011 at 10:59 pm
This franchise is a mess & I see no hope at all for years to come!!!
November 6th, 2011 at 10:59 pm
JB,
Seymour, TK, Wimbley and Routt are paid to be difference makers.
This team would be better off without them…cause they would have got the same result and much less coin.
The team is up and down cause it lacks leadership on the field and gets tons of penalites….led by Routt and Seymour.
There is no breaking this down.
This is about a handful of players that got big money…guaranteed contracts and play like zeros.
That defense should be a top 5 defesne with all the money they paid out.
But nope…one of the worst defenses in the league again.
Not a good look…cause you can’t win in this league with a defense as bad as Oaklands.
No toughness…no intangibles….no playmaking…nothing.
All on the offense to put up 40 a game.
That won’t work.
November 6th, 2011 at 11:01 pm
162.Christensen was one of my favorites. Please refrain from associating me with mr,sully,abp, etc,etc. I assure you i am none. I have always read and respected your posts and points of view, i would prefer that not to change.
November 6th, 2011 at 11:01 pm
Niners have arrived & the Raiders still wallow
November 6th, 2011 at 11:02 pm
163.Try Some Reality Says:
November 6th, 2011 at 10:58 pm
860Todd Christensen Says:
November 6th, 2011 at 10:47 pm
When AD passed away, there was no-one to say NO! We are living it, I’m sorry to say, We are going to tank. And I’d never think I’d be saying this of my beloved team. We lost to the Donkies, Al is rolling over, RIP AD!
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Agreed. I saw Al in the moves we were making right up to the Palmer trade. Then, with what has transpired over the past week or so, it took a different turn. With Al around, no way DHB disappears from the gameplan and no way is Hagan replaced with Housh. We already know that to be true because….well…Hue said so. lol.
Al wasn’t perfect, but you sometimes don’t realize how much you miss something until it’s gone. I’m afraid we may miss him more and more as the season goes on.
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Agreed Bro, but it’s getting darker every minute. Need some sleep, out. RAIDER ON!
November 6th, 2011 at 11:03 pm
Maybe, just maybe Hue should let Al Saunders call the offensive plays. That way he could focus on what Bresnahan is doing and he can better ride his a$$ if things aren’t going as planned. Better yet, fire Bresnahan and have Hue call the D.
November 6th, 2011 at 11:03 pm
JB
we were in a 5-2-4 when Tebow threw that dart to Decker for the 1st touchdown.
November 6th, 2011 at 11:03 pm
Be good, 860.
November 6th, 2011 at 11:04 pm
Carson, Bush, Jacoby, Denarius, Marcel, Shane,
I’m terribly sorry that Richard Seymour and Jarvis Moss ruined all of your guys’ hard work today. You see, it’s just that Richard and Jarvis are part of what’s called the “Raider mystique”, and they’re bad to the bone, like that old song, so, see, they don’t care if they win or lose. To them, it’s all about just acting tough and showing off, just to get a few fans who are as dumb as they are all excited about their dirty play. One day, these guys will be off the team. Just as soon as Hue works his way around some of the red tape that Al left behind. But soon enough, they’ll be gone. And you guys will start seeing the fruits of your efforts again. Until then, guys, hang in there. It’s like having a drug addict in the family. IT’s an elephant in the room. You guys work your butts off, a couple of idiots on the team who don’t care ruin it for you. It’s tough. But just hang in there.
November 6th, 2011 at 11:04 pm
2romes Says:
November 6th, 2011 at 10:57 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
Have you thought about a NFL Team that runs a full back Like bush as half back all Game??? Get back at me on this one.
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Bush is not a fullback. He’s a cut runner with good vision….and can make plays in the passing game.
A fullback?
I don’t know man….just because he is over 240 doesn’t make him a fullback.
He did his job…the Denver defense keyed in on the run…it was up to Palmer and the receivers to make the defense pay.
Unfortunately, there were too many INTs and TJ Housh had to steal snaps while our leading receiver was INEXPLICABLY put on the bench.
How can you even look at the running game when our defense gives up 38 points.
Bush had 135+ of offense and a TD…not sure what more you want….what 200 yards of offense?
Tell Seymour – the highest paid defender in the league, Wimbley – paid like Ray Lewis, Routt – getting beat every week and TK to actually try and help carry the team for a change instead of just show up and get penalties
November 6th, 2011 at 11:07 pm
alex7 Says:
November 6th, 2011 at 11:03 pm
JB
we were in a 5-2-4 when Tebow threw that dart to Decker for the 1st touchdown.
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Alex – the first TD is not the one that killed us. It was the last two TD’s that did the damage.
November 6th, 2011 at 11:10 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
Ok, you cannot name one team that plays a running back like Bush the whole game. Case close!!! Get some sleep.
November 6th, 2011 at 11:11 pm
That defense will not let this team be successfull.
No way they can score enough with a defense that can’t stop the run….can’t slow down the pass.
Just gets penalties.
There are 5 players on that defense stealing money.
Plus, players need to be benched for some of these penalties…maybe a quarter or half or a game.
This is ridiculous.
November 6th, 2011 at 11:11 pm
Maybe the 2 wins prior to these 2 losses were a bit of a mirage? Let’s examine them real quick. Houston. For all intents and purposes, we blow that one. Schaub just throws a horrible pass. He probably could have run it in. A week later, Cleveland. We nearly blow that one. Hue goes for it instead of icing it with a FG, they nearly come back and win.
Hue’s a motivator and he’s a sharp game planner, but maybe his detractors are right? He gets carried away? Seemed he kept going for those home runs down the sideline today when for the most part, they weren’t there. Even cost us one turnover.
November 6th, 2011 at 11:13 pm
Mike Tolbert played almost the whole game He’s the same size as Bush. Hillis has often played the whole game.
Regardless, Bush lost some reps to Jones, so what are you talking about?
November 6th, 2011 at 11:14 pm
2romes Says:
November 6th, 2011 at 11:10 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
Ok, you cannot name one team that plays a running back like Bush the whole game. Case close!!! Get some sleep.
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What the hell are you talking about?
Your question makes no sense.
“Plays a running back like Bush the whole game”
You think Bush is a lumbering 250 lb fullback
I don’t..
You think he should have run for 300 yards
You are right…its time for bed.
Anyone pointing at Michael Bush as the reason for this loss…..well maybe your right.
Sure Taiwan Jones would have ripped it up……or DMAC would have scored enough to overcome that crappy defense.
you Madden 12 gamers will never get it.
Can’t play defense worth a flip and we have people looking for ghosts!
So long!
November 6th, 2011 at 11:15 pm
178. Perhaps, you have turned the corner and will be a leader instead of a detractor. I mean it cant be fun being the brunt of evryones frustrations and ridicule. Be a part of the team and not an advisary. Try it you might like it.
November 6th, 2011 at 11:17 pm
Seymour’s face mask put them on our side of the field with about 1:30 left in the half. He doesn’t pull the mask, it’s 3rd and long from their own 39.
November 6th, 2011 at 11:18 pm
Hue is about #74 in the list of Oakland Raiders problems.
The first 73 revolve around Bresnahan, the defensive line, and scheme.
November 6th, 2011 at 11:19 pm
182. I agree, but the Curry PF was much more costly.
November 6th, 2011 at 11:20 pm
@176, Steven Jackson is a 240 pound one-cut runner.
November 6th, 2011 at 11:20 pm
Was Al’s love for athletes over football players the main reason that
YEAR AFTER YEAR
Coach after coach
the Raiders can’t stop committing penalties? Do we constantly have low IQ athletes?
November 6th, 2011 at 11:21 pm
What I am talking about is a threat, when past a first tier they have a very good chance of running past the secondary. Bush is a grinder. Yard here 5 yards there. As you found out The Bronco old HALFBACK ran pass our secondary to score a touchdown. That is what I am talking about.
November 6th, 2011 at 11:21 pm
183. Alex, everyone has been clamoring for blitzes and zone. Well, see what happens. Man up and play defense. Look what Shiitsburgh did to pathetriots playing man. My question is which do you want. Only the one that works…..?
November 6th, 2011 at 11:22 pm
154. No, I’m not looking for a fight. You are correct in Al Davis giving people opportunities. I have said here he was a legend. He did not go out on top, though. He must be held accountable for bringing in people that had no business coaching, such as Joe Bugel, Norv Turner, the bed and breakfast offensive coordinator, and Bresnahan. Al never wanted to pay top dollar for coaches. Hey, you get what you pay for. And let me throw in a comment about players. The Raiders of the 60s 70s and early 80s did bully their opponents and won games. The teams of the past 10 years just commit stupid penalties. Nobody is intimidated by the Oakland Raiders. Facts, man, facts.
November 6th, 2011 at 11:24 pm
if you look at top run defenses in the NFL, about 8 out of 10 play a 3-4 alignment. So that’s a start.
If we have to run a 4-3, then get two run-stuffing DTs, like the 4-3 Vikings have had, and play a mix of zone and man behind that (zone should improve now that the players finally are allowed to practice it).
But two pass-rushing DTs are baaaaaad for run defense.
November 6th, 2011 at 11:24 pm
Bresh had no answer for when Tebow started picking up our blitzes. But I still think the penalties and the same old chippy attitudes by our usual suspects was more to blame than anything, and that goes back to the old guard. The penalties were just debilitating. 2 steps forward…3 steps backward.
November 6th, 2011 at 11:24 pm
I think this team does not give 100% every single down and that’s why the meltdowns in 2nd against buffalo and in 2nd half this game , this whole KC week and hue need to stick to game plan .. Please run the damn ball even if it doesn’t get u first down it’s still better than turning the ball over on int’s what has been the common theme in 3 losses at home , you guess it right it’s the Turnovers … The minute we turn it over our team gets in. A funk and fans don’t help either with their huge gasps and we need to stop turning the ball over period … Just getting 6 or 7 yards is not bad when you are at 3rd down and need 10…. And when you are moving the chains please don’t get pass happy , just let the team run wild , we all know our identity is run the damn ball and don’t turn it over we win ….
November 6th, 2011 at 11:25 pm
I couldn’t believe my eyes, HueJax had two weeks to prepare for the donkeys and timmy teabag, and he gives us this blunder. I know he’ll have a chorus of supporters out there drinking his kool-aid, but the truth is another.
Folks, the Raiders are at best a 6-10 team. Look at the rest of the schedule and there are only two games that could be wins. There is no way the Raiders beat the dolts now, even with DMac healthy. There is no way the dolts lose 4 in a row, not at home.
Then it’s Minnesota and Chicago, tough running teams and a strong Chicago defense. Miami it’s a possible win, but forget about Green Bay and Detroit. KC will be a tough task maybe a win, and with the dolts again, I doubt it very much, maybe the dolts will have the AFC west wrapped out by then. The Raiders are looking at a 1-6 or 2-5 AFC West record.
Palmer is what it is, he’ll wow you one series and he’ll break your heart the next. That’s what he is, I said that the Raiders were going to suffer with Boller, and now they’re going to have the same record with Palmer than they would have with Boller. But, they would have had a high first round choice next season, and possibly get another chance with Campbell. Now they’re stuck with a loser like Palmer, welcome to the Oakland bungles.
Now, every one will say that with Palmer coming back after a full off-season and training camp things will change for 2012, but that is an illusion that HueJax will sell hard. And you know HueJax will not shut up, he’ll keep spinning Palmer like a broken record.
I am not sure what it would take, but the way things are now, someone, who knows, in management that could hold HueJax accountable now. Are they going to sit back and let him run the team into the ground?
I have totally lost all confidence in HueJax, whatever trust he had built it’s all gone, and now he’s become all BS with no substance. This team is playing worse now, instead of improving we’re seeing a team regressing.
It’s too bad Mr. Davis couldn’t get Jim Harbaugh to coach the Raiders, heck, even the cable guy is looking like a genius, right about now.
November 6th, 2011 at 11:27 pm
Beach, Bugel was an outstanding offensive line coordinator with the redskins and you cant debate turners accuman as an offensive coordinator. Your intelligence is obvious, but you make it sound as if Mr. Davis hired homeless derelicts off the street. Art Sheel wanted tom walsh. Please use your intellect and loyality to be even handed.
November 6th, 2011 at 11:29 pm
zopi,
you blame Hue for our defensive problems? Weird.
This team, since Hue arrived last year, has gone from joke on offense to scoring 20-30 points per game. It’s been amazing. That’s his job, and he does it well.
He has little to no input on defense, schemes, D player acquisition, or drafts.
November 6th, 2011 at 11:29 pm
alex7 Says:
November 6th, 2011 at 11:18 pm
Hue is about #74 in the list of Oakland Raiders problems.
The first 73 revolve around Bresnahan, the defensive line, and scheme.
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Boy, isn’t that he truth!
November 6th, 2011 at 11:29 pm
Hue should cut Seymour tomorrow morning. What a message that would be to the rest of the team. Bet you that despite some of the minor disadvantages we’d face without him (where the hell has he been, anyway? Let’s be honest…), our penalties would drop drastically. I think he’s just one of those veterans who came here just to enjoy “Club Davis”, and get a hefty paycheck while playing as dirty as he feels like.
November 6th, 2011 at 11:31 pm
Zopi, it took Gruden 3 years to clear out the garbage, why would you expect Hue to get it done any faster?
November 6th, 2011 at 11:32 pm
Yeah, trading a 1st rounder for Seymour – a 3-4 DE – and sticking him at DT, when we were faaaaaaaaaaaaar from being a contender,
was kinda silly.
Like we were one player away or something.
November 6th, 2011 at 11:33 pm
The Seymour trade was a fail, and today was the nail in the coffin.
November 6th, 2011 at 11:33 pm
Alex, your point is well taken. Your just talking different levels of the scheme. The over pursuit is what is killing our defense. Lack of gap responsibility and over aggresssion is what were most evident and detrimental in todays debacle.
November 6th, 2011 at 11:34 pm
So funny when the aliases talk with each other.
November 6th, 2011 at 11:35 pm
Yay, won my 3-team parlay with my monster $5 bet.
November 6th, 2011 at 11:36 pm
4.2 40,
why has that been our Achilles’s heel for 10 years now?
Low athlete IQ? Overrated defensive front-7 players?
November 6th, 2011 at 11:36 pm
Seymour is the face of this loss. It’s a game of momentum. He doesn’t commit that penalty, Denver’s at 3rd and 10, their territory. We stop them on 3rd and 10, we have plenty of time to get a FG before half and go up 20-7. But never mind the numbers. Just consider the hope that was sucked out of our sideline when those flags flew in the air. “here we go again” ,on everyon’es faces. It’s an emotional game, and momentum means so much.
November 6th, 2011 at 11:37 pm
You could see the Steelers or Eagles trading for a guy like Seymour, but a Jamarcus Russell-led team, coming off a 4-win season?
That was strange.
November 6th, 2011 at 11:37 pm
Raiders need
1) GM
2) DC
3) DE that gets multiple qb sacks
November 6th, 2011 at 11:38 pm
BUSH and Jackson from the Rams alike??? Can Bush run past a secondary. I did not see that last week while playing the Chiefs when Bush had a ten yard head start. I not getting on Bush he is a good player. The Raiders are asking him to be the home run threat and he is not!!! Or maybe they want to be a ball control team from the start. I don’t know.
November 6th, 2011 at 11:38 pm
When fans are asked what they remember of the Seymour era…
will they say that “He got off the bus with the rookies!” ??
November 6th, 2011 at 11:39 pm
4.2 40 I admit I can exagerrate when emotional, and your points are valid. I want the team to succeed. You just look at teams like the Steelers and Patriots and now Packers. They can win even with injuries. We seem to disappear without McFadden, or even the young Rolando McClain on defense. Coaching does play a role in this. Discipline is important in today’s game. You must agree with me if we commit 5 penalties, there is no way Denver is in the game in the 4th quarter. We’re on pace to break the NFL record for penalties! It’s never been this bad. The Head Coach, in this case, must be held accountable. He is not doing his job if he can’t teach his players how to play the game correctly. I think Carson Palmer was worth the draft picks the next 2 seasons. He is a true NFL QB.
November 6th, 2011 at 11:41 pm
Hue should consider taking over the defense, and have Saunders take over offense
November 6th, 2011 at 11:41 pm
Alex, thats a great question. I really think its a mentality. Its not read and react its just react. Sully, Seymours play was dismal, but far from the face of the loss. I cant remember a Raider team looking so much in disarray as todays. Even last years jets game they played hard and with more purpose. So mant blown coverages and glaring weaknesses. Truely humbling from a defensive standpoint…
November 6th, 2011 at 11:42 pm
Honestly, at this point, I think he’ll be remembered for his flagrant penalties. Of course, some fans are just dim enough to brag about them. He cost us whatever chance we had in Pittsburgh last year. Ruined the team’s fighting underdog spirit built up from the huge win vs. KC, made us look and feel like the scum of the league again. That wouldn’t have even been cool if we were a winning team. Killed our momentum today. I honestly can’t even think of anything good he’s done, because there hasn’t been much.
November 6th, 2011 at 11:43 pm
BRESNAHAN MMUST GO!
I have heard several defensive players say that that is what they saw in practice! Then how in the hell,you send your men to battle against this candy apple arm qb and let him run a freakin college fake option and burn you….over and over and over again….there goes Tebow again,he’s still running!!! I DONT BELIEVE IT!
How can you NOT have your defensive end waiting for the guy to peel to the outside?Or have each OLB playing spy on this guy? This is TOO DAMN retarded for me!
We are NOT who I thought we were!
November 6th, 2011 at 11:43 pm
We just need these guys to go down to San Diego and take what belongs to them and come back home with a lead in the AFC West! Show up on Thursday Night, defense and special teams. We can score! We just need support. All of you So Cal Raider fans need to get to San Diego and root the Raiders on to victory!
November 6th, 2011 at 11:44 pm
Beach, did i write that post. I think i did. I agree unequivocally with your perspectives.
November 6th, 2011 at 11:44 pm
Blacks again are the Dumbest race on earth & our players support what most of the world already knows..low IQ’s & DNA that goes back to the start of time..Never will you see any African country lead the world in economics or science..Never!!!
November 6th, 2011 at 11:45 pm
Chuck has a Black mother..
November 6th, 2011 at 11:46 pm
I know it may not sound too great right now, but the Chargers do not have LT, and we beat them in San Diego last season!
November 6th, 2011 at 11:47 pm
One thing that we have to do to win is we need to win turnover battles we need to have 2:1 or better turnover ratio .. I don’t know what’s in this team but here what’s happens when we turn it over .
Week 2 at Buffalo
We’re winning against buffalo I think they come out in the second half an score to get within 11 points .. Next drive we’re driving with mix of passes and runs and McFadden fumbles .. Buffalo recovers our D let them score and now we’re trying to pass and get tha TD back and we dont put anymore points on board and all of a sudden we can’t stop Buffalo O after that Turnover ..
Week 4 agains NE
I think we’re trailing 3 or 4 last in the second quarter we have the momentum with the ball in Pats territory and about to go ahead and take a lead but Campbell makes a boneheaded play , throws an int and the pats get a FG before the end of the half and receives the kickoff to start the second half and D can’t em and when we look like we could come back Campbell throws another pick and D allows another TD so that turnover right before halftime was the turning point of the game we score on that play we go ahead and win…
Week 7 at home against chiefs
We get the kickoff to start the game and we’re doin a good job movin the chains and it’s 3 and 1 around KC 35 yard line . Hue puts in pryor and pryor false starts so it’s 3rd and 6 on next play and Boller drops back and throws an I’ll advised pass that gets picked off and returned for TD , next drive we move the ball again and result Boller throws another pick and rest of the game turns like that but where it all started was with one freakin turnover thats all …
Week 9 at home against broncos..
Palmer throws a high pass in the 2nd half that gets tipped by the receiver and gets intercepted and the broncos take over and what happens ? They score on the first freaking play after the turnover and we get the ball back again and are forced to punt again and i dont rememer they got fg or td on next
Drive…
But knowing all that we know where the blame lies in 4 wins we have positive turnover ratio and in 4 losses we been really bad in turnover department and forever what ever reason our team just quits or I don’t know what it is they just flat out stops playing, I don’t know what the coaches are saying after turnover or what are their plans ? But they really need to play a turnover free game from their side and create a turnover or 2 on defense
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Coach hue needs to get in that thing ASAP .. All 4 losses have alot to do with turnovers…
November 6th, 2011 at 11:48 pm
Too much fluff and not enough stuff. Mental approach they take defensively is not condusive to solid fundamental football.
November 6th, 2011 at 11:49 pm
Al hated us fans when he was alive. Putting Hue in to run things when he’s gone is like pouring salt on the wound. Like saying “you think I was bad? Watch this!” It was Al’s way of making us miss him.
November 6th, 2011 at 11:50 pm
Good night, guys. Unfortunately, I must go to work tomorrow and hear about how great the 49ers are. I’m sick of it. We just have to beat Rivers and the Chargers. They are so overrated. They have a terrible defense (like us). I just pray that we create a key turnover during the game. GO RAIDERS!
November 6th, 2011 at 11:51 pm
I have no problems if HueJax would tell us, listen I need three years to clean up this mess. No, he said the time is now. And not just that, he gave away top draft choices for a loser like Palmer, that someone else had cleared out as garbage. Look at Cincy now, their future looks bright, and we’re talking about 3 years to clean out this garbage. Who has that patience?
HueJax is spending too much time as a novice GM, making irresponsible moves and losing focus on coaching and preparing the team. He said that he was building a bully on offense and defense. He said he was going to put his mark on the defense. He said he would stop the stupid penalties and the lack of focus from his players.
He spins and spins, but the more you look the more you see a fraud. It’s really too bad because I know he probably means well and has his heart on the Raiders, but he is incompetent and has taken way too much responsibility, which has obviously inflated his head and ego, and nothing seems to humble him, and no one here to hold him accountable.
November 6th, 2011 at 11:52 pm
Your racist comments have no business on a Raiders blog. I am Marine and have watched good men white, black or other bleed to death in battle. Blood is red, regardless of the skin color…..!!!!!!
November 6th, 2011 at 11:52 pm
Later Beach….
November 6th, 2011 at 11:54 pm
4.2 40: you should have stayed protecting your country. Go back & defend us now
November 6th, 2011 at 11:55 pm
Sully, that is a comment that i would expect from someone without your intellectual capicity. Be constructive. That is an inflammatory comment that you dont mean and one that is not warranted. Use your intelligence to help others and not always be so critical……
November 6th, 2011 at 11:57 pm
Go to bed now & relive Iraq all over
November 6th, 2011 at 11:58 pm
Your the type of person who takes liberty with the protection men and woman provide for you as you pull the covers up every night, yet dont have a clue about what has made this country what it is today.
November 6th, 2011 at 11:58 pm
zopi,
are you serious? We just ran for 250 yards on the Jets. We used to average like 11 points a game before Hue showed up. Now we run on ANYONE.
Hue’s built a heck of an offense here.
He has nothing to do with the defense.
November 6th, 2011 at 11:59 pm
damn go to bed already fool..
November 6th, 2011 at 11:59 pm
Now, The Defense suck. Well, not the whole defense. Was DVD hurt??? Lito shepperd??? you want better defense??? If The raiders start replacing to many rookies with the quick fixes that don’t pan out immediately things will fall apart. I saw no special gifts in the vets they added in the last 2 weeks. Carson Palmer is the only Vet that is absolutely needed of this team to succeed. Lito and JT are a distraction. If Raiders are going decrease alot of the playing times of the Raiders younger gifted players Lito and TJ were a mistake to acquire.
November 6th, 2011 at 11:59 pm
Raiders are dead with no first round picks..I can sleep better
November 7th, 2011 at 12:00 am
Goodness me. I wake up from a nappypoo to all this naysayers naysaying. Look across the bay, see what they do, and decide if it’s time to finally wake up and smell the roses. I had a great nap because my team won, and I can finally walk outside with my head held high, instead of hiding my Raider hat.Come out of the closet already. I did. Twice. I’m in the mood for a ginseng.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:01 am
Sully” try purple kool-aid or meth
November 7th, 2011 at 12:02 am
lol. Hey, cloner, go to your profile page, add “Tebowing” to your name, then put a link in the web page. Just trying to help. lmfao.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:02 am
Hey Prick, I mean Rick, when i want to i will. Got it….!!!! Take your degenerative and pathetic racially biased comments elsewhere you derelict….
November 7th, 2011 at 12:02 am
Lito and JT are a distraction. If Raiders are going decrease alot of the playing times of the Raiders younger gifted players Lito and TJ were a mistake to acquire.
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You ain’t never lied. These receivers put in hard work all year and now to be replaced with a reject nobody wanted? What a crime. I’m sure the players are not happy with a guy like TJ coming in out of the blue and taking their snaps.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:03 am
For whatever it’s worth I think we have a really young team who can be like world beaters at one time and when the going gets tough they lose composure I have not seen one time we turn the ball over and our D says its okay we’ll get it back for you or vice versa , our both units and even special teams need to be on top of the game and they need to handle their own business and do their job and keep composure I really think this is one of the reasons Coach Hue brought TJ along and Sheppard too we still need some more veteran leadership to even things out to help our young guys when going gets tough and we Need to stick to running the ball north and south and stop trying to be cute , I think coach hue is making rookie mistakes which are correctable and I really think he will call the game better next time and ask our team to not turn it over period ..
November 7th, 2011 at 12:04 am
Hue must go…He is clueless & is in way over his head..Stop the denial people & wake the F_uck up
November 7th, 2011 at 12:06 am
#niners…Seems to me they’re winning with the same team Singletary had, just with better offensive playcalling. Harbaugh a motivator? Am I supposed to believe Singletary wasn’t a motivator? Didn’t he drop his drawers in front of some players on national t.v? I think the Niners are going to have a cinderella year this year. Don’t know if they go all the way, but they’ll go far. After this year, I think Singletary’s defense starts to fade away, then we see if Harbaugh’s for real. I think Singletary got a raw deal. He was scapegoated for Alex Smith when the truth is his offensive coaches were garbage.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:08 am
You cant say i didnt try with you sully,,,,,
November 7th, 2011 at 12:09 am
Mark has Hue in charge of football operations. That means Bresh goes before anyone. Hopefully Seymour too. I hope Hue cuts Seymour tomorrow morning, as a message to the rest of his locker room.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:11 am
Bresh came on strong with that blitz, but once Tebow started picking it up, Bresh had no answer. Every big passing play Tebow had was a hot route in face of a blitz. He made me eat my words, that’s for sure.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:11 am
On another note … Please stop comparing Hue to Jim Harbaugh … The guy was gifted with a freaking top 5 D and all hes asking Smith to do is just manage and not turn the ball over and he’s been doing that but nothing really special… While our coach had no say Over D and couldnt even bring his choices for DC
And he’s The guy who have improved our O by leaps and bounds and don’t forget our Coach is a head coach for the first time in any level and I think he’s doing a pretty good job for being a rookie with a pretty young but talented team , and Harbaugh has been a head coach in college and he has his brother to lean onto too …
So I think hue is still doing better than he’s given credit for and he will only get better …
November 7th, 2011 at 12:12 am
And yes the problems with the defense. I wrote last week that it would have to be up to the defense to finally step it up and play a statement game against the donkeys. No more excuses, have the defense prepared and ready, have a game plan to stop timmy teabag, two whole weeks to prepare after the KC fiasco. Just the opposite happens. Why does this happens? Yes, we know Bresnahan is incompetent, but HueJax should do what he said he was going to do, get his mark on the defense make players accountable. Is HueJax incapable or incompetent to get the defense to play to their talent?
Seymour? I have written over and over about how he’s the one who needs to take charge, he has the ultimate responsibility to make sure he sets the tone and to always bring his A game, put the defense on his back. I might not be such a good judge of talent, but what a joke big Rich has turned out to be, a player with no pride, and just watch some one will select him to the pro bowl. This is how over-priced over the hill players can ruin your team. Same thing will happen with Palmer.
Such a waste of talent.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:13 am
Sullivan44 (Tebowing…) Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 12:09 am
Mark has Hue in charge of football operations. That means Bresh goes before anyone. Hopefully Seymour too. I hope Hue cuts Seymour tomorrow morning, as a message to the rest of his locker room.
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What a great idea! After he cuts Seymour,maybe he can write “I”M AN IDIOT” on his forehead? Ya?
November 7th, 2011 at 12:14 am
This isn’t Singletary’s defense. It’s Vic Fangio’s. #1 in the NFL in points allowed.
Last year’s D was 16th.
Harbaugh has improved the offense and defense in SF.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:14 am
It’s no longer a matter of “needs to” with Seymour. Today, he officially arrived at “didn’t”. Give him a plane ticket back to Massachusetts.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:16 am
lol. What do you have against Singletary, Alex?
November 7th, 2011 at 12:17 am
Let’s face it we win the turnover ratios in all games we could b sitting here and talking about 8-0 right now and calling Hue the greatest coach ever etc etc , turnovers are our Achilles heal , you can’t do that and especially when you have a really young team period.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:17 am
Harbaugh is doing the JOB, not Hue..
November 7th, 2011 at 12:19 am
Harbaugh didn’t inherit a team with so many lazy, undisciplined divas, as Hue did.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:21 am
mcfadden20. Says:
November 7th, 2011 at :
I agree with you. The Raiders will benefit from vet leadership but it must be put in prospective. Are They here to help or our they here to take over???
November 7th, 2011 at 12:22 am
Singletary left Harbaugh with a pretty solid bunch of scrappy, smart players.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:24 am
So you morons blaming Jim because he has less or better talent?..Hands down Jim is better because he has a better IQ hired better coaches to teach dumb players to play smarter..
November 7th, 2011 at 12:24 am
Hue needs to cut down on the home run attempts and focus on keeping the game out of our defenses hands. We need our offense on the field almost the entire game to win.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:24 am
It’s a freaking same D in sf , you know how many straight games they haven’t allowed a runner to get more than 100 yards? How about 34 games, so dont tell me Harbaugh improved the d . they might have improved in points allowed department a little but what I see is same D from last few years , idk maybe it’s 3-4 , maybe it’s the great LB they have but whatever it is, it has been working for a few years for now so they guy have what responsibility , just the freaking O side only
November 7th, 2011 at 12:25 am
Im telling u by the wins & losses you IDIOT
November 7th, 2011 at 12:26 am
Mcfadden20. Says: Drink the Purple kool-aid it’s time for your Meth call.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:28 am
The stats bear it out..Niner D last yr to this yr, oh it just happened, right?..Pull ur head out of your smelly stupid A_ss
November 7th, 2011 at 12:28 am
Not blaming Jim or taking credit away from him I just want you guys to look realistically and say that hue has not been doing a better job ? With such a bad D ……Give hue the same D and same schedule I guarantee you he’s 6-2 or better and give Harbaugh same D and coordinator he’s no Better than 3-5 at this point …
November 7th, 2011 at 12:30 am
We have a chance to beat San Diego if:
Hue goes for no more than 2 home run attempts. The defenses still aren’t giving them to us, even with Al gone. They’re still expecting the quick strike. We almost never see the looks for it. Why waste the play? Let’s break out the short and intermediate passing game and continue to run the ball. Set a goal for 40 minutes T.O.P., at least. We need our defense off the field. Never mind getting them rest. Just keep them out of the game, period. Try to keep the offense on the field the whole game if you can.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:31 am
you move a D from 16th to 1st, it’s a big improvement.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:32 am
Harbaugh was left a solid bunch. Hue was left a squad with question marks through and through.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:32 am
Rick Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 12:28 am
The stats bear it out..Niner D last yr to this yr, oh it just happened, right?..Pull ur head out of your smelly stupid A_ss
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So the competition they played in first 9 games this year compared to last 9 games last year has no effect to the rankings? Are you serious? They might have allowed same amount of points but because to start the season alot of Other D’s struggled so your telling me that has nothing to do with that … Stats arent everything .. Your crazy if you think Harbaugh have anything to do with their D ..
November 7th, 2011 at 12:33 am
Alex, offensive play affects defense, too. An atrocious offense hurts a defense. Always. Plus, they’re all Singletary’s players. All I see with the new 49ers is better playcalling on offense.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:34 am
1st 9 games this year compared to all the games last year^^^
November 7th, 2011 at 12:36 am
Mcfadden u must have NO balls like him too..Mcsissy?..
November 7th, 2011 at 12:37 am
Sullivan44 (Tebowing…) Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 12:30 am
We have a chance to beat San Diego if:
Hue goes for no more than 2 home run attempts. The defenses still aren’t giving them to us, even with Al gone. They’re still expecting the quick strike. We almost never see the looks for it. Why waste the play? Let’s break out the short and intermediate passing game and continue to run the ball. Set a goal for 40 minutes T.O.P., at least. We need our defense off the field. Never mind getting them rest. Just keep them out of the game, period. Try to keep the offense on the field the whole game if you can.
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How about the most important , win the turnover ration..
In games were even or better in turnover ratio we’re 4-0.
In games we turn it over more we’re 0-4
So that’s the stat hue should be looking at he should be worried how to stop those turnovers…
November 7th, 2011 at 12:38 am
Rick Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 12:36 am
Mcfadden u must have NO balls like him too..Mcsissy?..
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Now when you can’t win the arguement , you are doing what all the children do when they are losing , resort to name calling …
November 7th, 2011 at 12:39 am
McFadden, he can rebuild the team in one week. The turnovers is mostly the result of lazy divas he inherited. He’s stuck with them for at least this year. We need a game plan. And the one glaring change Hue can make from this week to next week is to stop with the home run shots. Keep the offense on the field. Game plan as if most of the defense is injured. Basically, they are. They’re mentally injured.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:40 am
He “can’t” rebuild the team in one week. Ugh. I hate the fact that you can’t edit here.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:42 am
Now when you can’t win the arguement:
Win, is this a game?.Wow!!..You need protein in ur A_ss
November 7th, 2011 at 12:43 am
Hue needs to realize that you have to have a good defense to go downfield on 2nd and long. If you’re NYG, Pittsburgh, Baltimore, Green Bay, you can do it. With our defense, you have go get to 3rd and short. 2nd and long + incomplete pass = 3rd and long. Way too many 3rd and longs today. And when you’ve got a lot of 3rd and longs on offense and a crappy defense, you get embarrassed by teams as bad as the Tebow-led Broncs.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:43 am
But whatever man done with arguing with stupid little kids…
Raiders need to keep pounding the rock .. Because chargers will b playing 3rd game in 10 days while the Raiders will be more fresh and they need to win the battle of turnovers and field position and TOP and most of all score points than them to win lol
November 7th, 2011 at 12:45 am
Rick Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 12:42 am
Now when you can’t win the arguement:
Win, is this a game?.Wow!!..You need protein in ur A_ss
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Again childish remark, seriously dude if your point is not stronger than just stfu and go to sleep you lil b|tch …
November 7th, 2011 at 12:45 am
With D Moore the Raiders very gifted receiver. Just like DHB learned you have to catch the balls that thrown in front of you before you can be claimed an all out baller. The defense know that your deep catches impressed and you will be challenged for position on the deep ball like never before because that is what they seen that open their eyes. Run your patterns well. Make them defend all you. Good luck! DHB did it. You can too.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:49 am
One thing we keep talking about is we lost 2 draft picks next year , we mortgaged our future blah blah blah but aren’t we Hella young already , I think we may need more veteran players between 27-31 than young players because team of too many young players all across the board … superbowl winning teams are not too young they have veteran guys at alot of positions …
November 7th, 2011 at 12:51 am
McFadden, I agree. Run the football. Anything to keep the game out of the defense’s hands. Hue kept putting the game into the defense’s hands today with shots on 2nd and long. He has way too much faith in his defense.
Key’s for Hue thur.:
1) Seek the 3rd and short situation. That should be the goal every series…maybe a shot or two.
2) 40 minutes t.o.p.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:54 am
Alright nation be good .. Have a good night
November 7th, 2011 at 12:55 am
November 7th, 2011 at 12:58 am
see ya, i’m out as well
November 7th, 2011 at 2:30 am
Just watched the condensed version on gamepass.
Palmer played really well, so much difference an above average QB makes. His 3 interceptions were very deceptive. None of them bad or his fault. The two early ones costly given they were in scoring range.
Tebow looked bad again passing. Has very little deft touch on his passes, just rips them in there for every throw. How a stat, 3:3 vs 2:0, can belie the actual quality of the play.
Tebow ran riot out of the option, but i didn’t see much spying or guarding of Tebow runs from the defensive play-calling, and this after Jackson said all week they were going to do just that.
The Raiders controlled the majority of the game, but those few big plays being the difference.
Broncos played really well to only be down 17-7 and 24-14 thru that period of Raiders control. Again, a few big plays and suddenly they win.
November 7th, 2011 at 2:53 am
Hue personnel shenanigans is another back-story the last month.
Hue imo “should” be on the hot-seat since the death of Davis. Florio was onto it…he has a contract that stipulates he answers only to the owner (Al being owner/GM), but with Al gone, that leaves Hue with some clout and this is why Al gets a bad wrap sometimes. Rookie HCs like Kiffin, McDaniels, Jackson, can wreck a franchise if they have too much roster control. Need experienced heads like Al to reign them in, ease them along, teach them the ways.
That said, Hue is much better than Cable/Kiffin at least, and I dont think his job is in jeopardy, but 2012, we definitely need an experienced personnel guy (GM) to run the show and that Hue answers to.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:38 am
How do you get a team ( Raiders) that just can’t understand that you can’t give and NFL team that many free plays in penalties and expect to win…..at what point do they ” get it”..?.. This loss was on Hue, and the Defense…the Offense played well enough to win….and the defense just gave it away…. Why are so many recievers on the opposing offense just wideopen ?.. Why so many busted defensive plays…?
November 7th, 2011 at 3:41 am
Gg very good points, most importantly is I feel Hue is getting a pass here with the untimely death of Mr. Davis. There is no way that Hue should be allowed to make any personnel decisions. We need a real GM, someone for him to answer to. And i have to say being a head coach and make play calls is not easy, and it shows. I am still aggrevated at how he handled boss and dhb, they have been handled improperly. We definitely need some on to step in and take the reigns away from hue, sorry. Also, we need to finally hire a real d coordinator, this is not on hue he was saddled with a washed up guy like chuck d, I said it before, get a guy like mike Nolan in here.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:48 am
30 penalties and 250 yards in penalties in just 2 games aginst a crap team like the Donks…. Can’t beat anybody committing 30 penalties…. Were lucky we beat them in game 1….. Stupid players and coachs that don’t seem to have respect from the players…
This is a tough one … The Bills loss was nothing compared to this one… At home?.. The Donks beat us 38 to 24 at home?.. Unacceptable …
November 7th, 2011 at 3:57 am
elraidmanhattan Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 3:41 am
Gg very good points, most importantly is I feel Hue is getting a pass here with the untimely death of Mr. Davis. There is no way that Hue should be allowed to make any personnel decisions. We need a real GM, someone for him to answer to. And i have to say being a head coach and make play calls is not easy, and it shows. I am still aggrevated at how he handled boss and dhb, they have been handled improperly. We definitely need some on to step in and take the reigns away from hue, sorry. Also, we need to finally hire a real d coordinator, this is not on hue he was saddled with a washed up guy like chuck d, I said it before, get a guy like mike Nolan in here.
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Yeah it’s not good right now. At the time of Palmer’s acquisition, the consensus was it was both good and bad. We couldn’t ride with Boller, Pryor not ready yet, Palmer was an excellent get, but the cost was very steep. Trading away picks after picks, especially firsts, is very dangerous. Squandering draft picks thru player trades or trading up or drafting poorly (mcdaniels) can really set a team back a few years. But yeah, at the time, we have to accept Palmer is a good get.
But overall now since Al’s death, Hue’s personnel imprint has been clear. He’s still a rookie, and we (and he) needs a good experienced GM badly, otherwise he can keep on cluster-****ing.
There’s probably a good chance we get a new DC next year. Namely, Dennis Thurman.
November 7th, 2011 at 4:03 am
We are on the same page, and a true raider fan will agree with the assessments a GM, and a real d coordinator mandatory, can’t remember the last time we had real x and o’s guy on defense. I get the sense the d tunes chuck d out. But don’t you agree that Saunders should be making okay calls, and tell me the last time you saw a coach bench his best receiver? And explain how Kevin boss who was so good here for the giants is invisible? I need better explanations than “sets”
November 7th, 2011 at 4:18 am
This ones gonna feel real bad till Thursday…. I have no idea what to expect of this team now….two very bad games back to back…. Impossible to get a handle on how good this team is… Right now I’m thinking this is a bad team….. Only a good showing aginst the Chargers( I can’t call them chokers due to our play) on Thursday will change that….this team has not been prepared the last 2 games…
November 7th, 2011 at 4:22 am
I can’t remember a loss that’s made me feel this sick to my stomach in a longtime….the defense just didn’t seem to know what to do… They were burned over and over by the same plays…everybody knew what was coming and still couldn’t stop Tebow or MaGahee..
November 7th, 2011 at 4:37 am
This is the drive that killed the Raiders yesterday. We are up 24-17 and driving hoping to make the game a 2 score game. But the gunslinger Jeff George er… Carson Palmer decides to go deep to Bey, fumbles a 2nd down snap, and then throws the pick to Moore. We should have nicked and dimed it to at least get into field goal range and if we got a touchdown more the better, but Hue went for the kill.
Oakland Raiders at 02:52
1-10-OAK20 (2:52) M.Bush right tackle to OAK 21 for 1 yard (J.Mays).
2-9-OAK21 (2:16) (No Huddle) M.Bush right tackle to OAK 22 for 1 yard (V.Miller, B.Dawkins).
3-8-OAK22 (1:35) (Shotgun) C.Palmer pass short left to J.Ford to OAK 30 for 8 yards (C.Harris).
1-10-OAK30 (1:20) (No Huddle) C.Palmer pass incomplete short middle to M.Reece.
2-10-OAK30 (1:12) (No Huddle) C.Palmer pass deep middle to T.Houshmandzadeh to DEN 42 for 28 yards (C.Harris; B.Dawkins).
1-10-DEN42 (:45) (No Huddle) C.Palmer pass incomplete deep left to D.Heyward-Bey (A.Goodman).
2-10-DEN43 (:38) C.Palmer FUMBLES (Aborted) at DEN 42, and recovers at DEN 43. C.Palmer to DEN 43 for no gain (Team).
3-11-DEN43 (:14) (Shotgun) C.Palmer pass deep middle intended for D.Moore INTERCEPTED by C.Harris at DEN 25. C.Harris to DEN 40 for 15 yards (C.Carlisle).
November 7th, 2011 at 4:39 am
And the No Huddle idea was a brilliant idea too Hue. It really gave our defense time to reload on the sidelines (sarcasm).
November 7th, 2011 at 4:46 am
elraidmanhattan Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 4:03 am
We are on the same page, and a true raider fan will agree with the assessments a GM, and a real d coordinator mandatory, can’t remember the last time we had real x and o’s guy on defense. I get the sense the d tunes chuck d out. But don’t you agree that Saunders should be making okay calls, and tell me the last time you saw a coach bench his best receiver? And explain how Kevin boss who was so good here for the giants is invisible? I need better explanations than “sets”
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Saunders isn’t calling the plays, Hue is. Would be interesting to see how Saunders calls a game. Hue probably needs to wear less hats right now. He’s HCing, GMing, and calling the plays on offense.
Boss and DHB. Yeah, mismanaged. DHB’s non-role today has to be shenanigans? Boss…1) didnt he get a concussion last week? 2) Saunders Air Coryell background generally concentrates on wide-outs not TEs. But obviously Saunders has a broad experience base and can also factor TEs in too, but it’s up to the HC to elicit that from the OC, his playbook, instal those plays, or say focus on that more (like Saunders in Washington when a HC knows he has poorer WRs), and also if the HC is acting as play-caller rather than the OC.
November 7th, 2011 at 4:46 am
We lost to the worst team in FOOTBALL! It’s time to be worried. Someone hit the panic button!
unbelievable,…
November 7th, 2011 at 4:54 am
Our Defense couldn’t have beaten a team of
” Blind girlscouts” yesterday ….just pitiful…stupidity….
November 7th, 2011 at 5:00 am
The fans chanting “TEbow sucks” was such an embaressment.
I got news for you people, the guy is actually pretty good. Unconventional, and inaccurate at times but he is 3-2 as a starter, with 18 career TD’s to 5 total turnovers.
Much more scared playing him twice a year moving forward than Cassel and Rivers. Not even close in my eyes.
I bet we beat Rivers Thursday and get at least 2 turnovers from him.
Tebow has came to Oakland twice, and has yet to turn it over.
November 7th, 2011 at 5:06 am
Sorry was a typo, I know hue calls plays, that is the issue. Last year it was his only job game day, it is obvious he can’t handle all aspects of coaching game day wise.
For the last few years we get out coached constantly, especially after half time, we don’t have the minds to make adjustments, I want Nolan or haslet as DC.
November 7th, 2011 at 5:08 am
Can’t take anything away from Tebow…he did all he could….. But The Raiders gave up 130 yrds in penalties yesterday…. You can’t give any offense that many free plays … It will burn you everytime…..we were lucky to beat them the 1st time… 30 penalties in 2 games… 250 yrds…. This team isn’t capable of overcoming gifts to the
Opposition like that…
November 7th, 2011 at 5:11 am
If the team practiced against the same plays that killed them yesterday, what does that say about the defense?
Between the penalties and over pursuing of Tebow/McGahee, this defense is borderline retarded.
November 7th, 2011 at 5:19 am
Stupid is all I can say….everybody knew what was coming and they still couldn’t stop Tebow and MaGahee….
November 7th, 2011 at 5:21 am
being a Raiders fan is like dating a chick that cheats on you all the time but you just can’t get enough of, you know the pain is coming but you hope anyway. Then you come home early and find her in bed with two guys.Yesterday one of them was your father,….
November 7th, 2011 at 5:22 am
elraidmanhattan Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 5:06 am
Sorry was a typo, I know hue calls plays, that is the issue. Last year it was his only job game day, it is obvious he can’t handle all aspects of coaching game day wise.
For the last few years we get out coached constantly, especially after half time, we don’t have the minds to make adjustments, I want Nolan or haslet as DC.
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it’s cool about the typo.
yeah, hue is wearing too many hats and it’s affecting him.
we probably wont see raiders hitting the big heights until 2012 when we get a GM, currently we’re all over the shop since Campbell went down and Al passed away. Meaning, Hue having to take on GMing and having to get a rusty Palmer up to speed meaning in hindsight we probably should’ve expected to lose these two games while Palmer learns the playbook and acclimates with the receivers.
it’s a shame because we were poised to be 6-2 if campbell didnt get injured. Not saying i endorse Campbell as a QB per se over Palmer, but at the time, we lost continuity and Palmer required a few weeks before we see the full benefits of that.
I am 100% sure that over the next month we’ll see Palmer hitting his straps and the Raiders back to winning as continuity with him will have been attained.
November 7th, 2011 at 5:23 am
The Raiders are loaded with talent but the stupidity overcomes the talent…enough to make fans sick to our stomachs…..
November 7th, 2011 at 5:26 am
The Raiders are not loaded with talent.
Steelers lost a bunch of LB’s, and one of the guys off the bench was Larry Foote, who is a season veteran who has started close to 100 games.
We lose 1 LB, and the replacement is a guy from the UFL starting his first NFL game.
This team has major depth issues, from years of terrible draft picks.
November 7th, 2011 at 5:27 am
Where was Lito Sheppard? I didn’t even see him in the game until late after DVD popped his hammy again, what about Ndukwe? Why is Michael Huff STILL covering WRs on a regular basis?
Why are we continuing to throw the ball with a 24-17 lead, from the no huddle no less? Jason Campbell was here for 2 years and all we had him doing was managing the game and letting our runners do the work, Palmer has been here 2 weeks and Hue is expecting him to win the games? So frustrated. I am not ready to give up on Hue, but my patience is wearing thin.
For the record, I dont think ANY team in the AFC west deserves a playoff spot or to be considered in the running right now. Whichever one of these crappy teams makes it is going to be 1 and done.
November 7th, 2011 at 5:27 am
I think that it is time for Kelly and the rest of the defense to just shut up and play. Kelly is always making comments, McClain won’t talk, Seymour just says what he thinks the reporters want to hear…
I want them to stop talking, go out there and execute, help the team win, and then talk. To the victors go the spoils.
November 7th, 2011 at 5:28 am
Lito played a little, not a lot.
Didn’t see Ndukwe on the field, even on teams.
November 7th, 2011 at 5:28 am
Gg… I hear ya… We had a “Groove” going with Campbell and it was derailed when he was injured… I’m ok with the Palmer trade , he was the best Qb out there at the time… And Palmer isn’t the reason the defense stinks…. Hue said the team would be accountable…. Well the defense isn’t living up to accountability …
November 7th, 2011 at 5:30 am
Raiders had the ball, up 7 AT HOME, late in the 3rd quarter.
We had 5 possessions:
1st – INT
2nd – 3 and out
3rd – 3 and out
4th – 2 first downs and punt
5th – INT
Beyond Pathetic. Not haning the loss on the offense, but they never seem to be there when we need them most.
Von Miller was having his way with our O-line, and Wiz and Veldheer seriously need to cut the crap with the penatlties.
November 7th, 2011 at 5:30 am
If Romac was a scratch they should have moved Curry to Mike and played Groves at Will. Really what would the downside have been? We give up 300 yards rushing? Oh, wait…
November 7th, 2011 at 5:31 am
Yes… The talking parts over…. I want to see better play… I’m tired of the same post game speeches…
November 7th, 2011 at 5:32 am
Didn’t both of Wiz’s penalties come when after he went to center?
November 7th, 2011 at 5:33 am
Dam, I came here this morning hoping to see that Hue was fired. He’s still coach. Depression from yesterday returning.
November 7th, 2011 at 5:33 am
Didn’t both of Wiz’s penalties come when after he went to center?
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would have to rewatch, but I thought one of them came early.
November 7th, 2011 at 5:33 am
fingers Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 5:28 am
Gg… I hear ya… We had a “Groove” going with Campbell and it was derailed when he was injured… I’m ok with the Palmer trade , he was the best Qb out there at the time… And Palmer isn’t the reason the defense stinks…. Hue said the team would be accountable…. Well the defense isn’t living up to accountability …
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Yep, just really bad timing. Instead of 6-2, we had to take two steps back (4-4) in order to get continuity with Palmer going. I dont think the sky is falling W-L wise at all. Once that ‘groove’ starts with Palmer we’ll look exceptionally potent on offense (passing and rushing collectively).
The area of concern still is defense. We are too inconsistent. To be a bully as a team, that bully-ness really means defense, has to come from the defense. We aren’t there yet. We seem to scratch the surface of it (either thru a half then collapse to old ways) or we string together a couple dominant weeks then have these kinds of games again on D.
November 7th, 2011 at 5:34 am
Hue was a different man in his post game yesterday. He was mad. He called the team out, and even said if he could he would be fining these guys, he also said he could bench ‘em but the back ups are committing penalties too.
Back to basics Hue. Run the ball, stop the run, if you get outscored then so be it, but STOP GIVING FVCKNG GAMES AWAY!
November 7th, 2011 at 5:36 am
Well I think we can drop all the bully talk. Hue hasn’t said it since training camp, and we for damn sure arent demonstrating it on the field.
November 7th, 2011 at 5:38 am
304.Raiderbuck Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 5:21 am
being a Raiders fan is like dating a chick that cheats on you all the time but you just can’t get enough of, you know the pain is coming but you hope anyway. Then you come home early and find her in bed with two guys.Yesterday one of them was your father,….
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Nice analogy LOL!
November 7th, 2011 at 5:40 am
CAn we resign Hagan and cut Murphy?
November 7th, 2011 at 5:40 am
Bcz…. I agree, it’s the way were losing that’s making me sick…nobody wants to lose… But I hate that we give the games away… That kills me..
November 7th, 2011 at 5:41 am
One thing I wish Hue would do less of is talk. Rex and Rob Ryan have shown why not to talk. Hated Cable’s talk and pressers. Hue’s can often be far too self-grandiose. The silver lining in this is that these last two weeks, these types of days, will harden Hue up, make him get sick of hearing his own talk too and the excuses post-game.
November 7th, 2011 at 5:44 am
I gotta go do some chores and try and stay busy today and not dwell on this…I’m sick to my stomach….. You guys hang in there… See ya later…
November 7th, 2011 at 5:45 am
GG Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 5:41 am
One thing I wish Hue would do less of is talk. Rex and Rob Ryan have shown why not to talk. Hated Cable’s talk and pressers. Hue’s can often be far too self-grandiose. The silver lining in this is that these last two weeks, these types of days, will harden Hue up, make him get sick of hearing his own talk too and the excuses post-game.
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Let’s hope so!
November 7th, 2011 at 5:46 am
Hue should have ditched that “build a bully” thing a long time ago.
What’s a bully?
Guys who push the QB out of bounds, 18 yards away from the first down on 3rd down? Going in and cleaning up the pile of a running play, by yanking the RB’s facemask?
That whole notion was doomed to fail. Want a bully, take Aaron Rodgers, that’s my type of bully.
Just goes in, kicks your tail each week, and gives the defenders a subtle wink occasionally to let them know they are getting their butts kicked.
No talk, no tough-guy bravado, no thuggery. Just azz-whoopings.
November 7th, 2011 at 5:47 am
Huejack City = Used Car Salesman!
November 7th, 2011 at 5:49 am
Who would have guessed Carson Palmer would throw for 300+ yards and 3 TD’s in his first start for the Oakland Raiders?
November 7th, 2011 at 5:49 am
Exactly JFB,
I said this last night, they should change the uniforms to pink and baby blue and maybe we’ll start to see something resembling a bully on the field.
November 7th, 2011 at 5:51 am
I say this before every Raider game and I know you guys are sick of hearing it:
Stuff the run = win the game!
Result?
Donkeys rushed 38 times for 300 yards & 2 TD’s
almost 8 yards per carry
November 7th, 2011 at 5:51 am
We can see why Seattle was so quick to give up on Curry.
He didn’t hustle on the Royal TD, stupid penalties, and no instincts on the MCgahee 60 yard run. Just ran and played patty-cake with the O-lineman, and Willis ran right past where he started from.
For a 5th & 7th, no big deal. But he will never be an everydown LB on a good defense.
November 7th, 2011 at 5:52 am
Right after the Carson Palmer trade I was really enjoying watching the Raiders on TV again. NFL network and ESPN were talking about the Raiders and for once not because the Raiders were dysfunctional in some way. Well after loosing to KC and the Doncos – that word is coming back and I can’t watch TV again. You want to sell out games Hue and Amy? Run a football team that the press can’t beat the crap out of every freaking weekend! Coach Davis never saw the need to play with the press, and it hurt the bottom line, learn from it and change. I’d like to watch sports center again.
November 7th, 2011 at 5:53 am
THE RAIDER PREDICTION BOARD
Dedicated to the legacy of Al Davis
Protected by the rally squirrel and Coliseum rodents
First: Ghostraider (exact score)
Second: Sullivan44
Third: Pretty Rick
Fourth: Sullivan44
Fifth: Fingers
Sixth: Zymurge Raiders 23, Browns 17
Honorable Mention: LA for PAIN
Seventh: Noone…at all.
Eighth: See Week Seven.
November 7th, 2011 at 5:53 am
Tim Tebow: 240 yards, 2 TD’s
no turnovers. only sacked twice
Donkeys win by two scores @ Oakland
this was only his 6th NFL start. not bad
November 7th, 2011 at 5:54 am
Guys who push the QB out of bounds, 18 yards away from the first down on 3rd down? Going in and cleaning up the pile of a running play, by yanking the RB’s facemask?
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Do you actually think thats what he is referring to when sayin gbuild a bully?????
November 7th, 2011 at 5:55 am
Just Fire Baby <—- I am suprised you are not here singing the praises of your boy tebw…
November 7th, 2011 at 5:56 am
GG Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 5:41 am
One thing I wish Hue would do less of is talk.
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I agree, answer the question than move on…
November 7th, 2011 at 5:58 am
Coach Jackson, may be over thinking himself….
November 7th, 2011 at 5:59 am
Our D got beat by the college option….
November 7th, 2011 at 5:59 am
I sincerely hope this shoves a cork in all the Oakland fan Tebow hater’s mouths on this blog.
especially the nickname “TeBlow” that really irks me. He’s a Christ1an. anti-g@y.
Meanwhile, most Raider fans are probably pro qu33r. After all, Oakland is just across the bay from the biggest h0m0 populated place in the U.S. – San Fran
November 7th, 2011 at 6:02 am
you have good balance of vets, and youngsters. The team had good chemistry, and folks buying into what Coach Jackson was selling.
No need to go dumpster diving and bringing in a bunch of new guys…Let the guys who are on the team grow and learn…
Coach Jackson may be too much of a tinkerer…He’s got too many toys, and no parents to tell him he cant have any more….
November 7th, 2011 at 6:04 am
Meanwhile, most Raider fans are probably pro qu33r. After all, Oakland is just across the bay from the biggest h0m0 populated place in the U.S. – San Fran
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One of the most ridiculous statements i have ever seen on this blog.
The town is polar opposite of SF…
November 7th, 2011 at 6:04 am
332.Just Fire Baby Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 5:51 am
We can see why Seattle was so quick to give up on Curry.
He didn’t hustle on the Royal TD, stupid penalties, and no instincts on the MCgahee 60 yard run. Just ran and played patty-cake with the O-lineman, and Willis ran right past where he started from.
For a 5th & 7th, no big deal. But he will never be an everydown LB on a good defense.
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Curry makes McClain MUCH better, and vice versa, these 2 play off each other, and not having McClain out the yesterday made a HUGE defense.
As bad as he was yesterday, Curry was STILL far an away our best LB.
November 7th, 2011 at 6:05 am
He’s tinkering because we are so thin at almost every position. I agree too much tinkering will loose the locker room, and I think it’s starting to show.
November 7th, 2011 at 6:05 am
especially the nickname “TeBlow” that really irks me. He’s a Christ1an. anti-g@y.
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Him being a “christian” means what exactly?
November 7th, 2011 at 6:06 am
Raiderbuck Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 6:05 am
He’s tinkering because we are so thin at almost every position.
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Yeah he tinkered himself into an ass whopping by the college option…lol
November 7th, 2011 at 6:07 am
I for one was impressed with Palmer. He made some big time throws yesterday. Look, he’s only been with the team less than three weeks. This is about the time QBs get before they play their first exhibition game of the season. He came out and made some money throws, including the TDs to Ford and Reece.
These are the kind of throws we haven’t seen in years in Oakland. Probably Gannon’s MVP season is the only other time I can remember in my lifetime a QB making those kinds of completions.
Yes, I know he’s got to clean up the INTs. But if our defense showed any kind of resistance in the second half we win this in a blowout.
Think about this, we gave up 31 points in the second half to a team with a quarterback who pretty much can’t throw!
November 7th, 2011 at 6:07 am
TeBlow does blow on the field. He has great heart and determination but an NFL QB he is not. He should have been bottled up but his play fake ability burnt the idiots that are on our D.
He’ll be put to rest like the wildcat offense was. His best bet is as a RB or slot WR.
November 7th, 2011 at 6:07 am
Do you actually think thats what he is referring to when sayin gbuild a bully?????
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I think he is trying to foster this wild, let it rip philosophy that our players aren’t capable of doing, while playing disciplined football.
November 7th, 2011 at 6:07 am
I agree too much tinkering will loose the locker room, and I think it’s starting to show.
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We only had 2 sacks against a guy who cant throw, and shouldnt even be in the NFL as a QB….
November 7th, 2011 at 6:08 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 5:46 am
Hue should have ditched that “build a bully” thing a long time ago.
What’s a bully?
Guys who push the QB out of bounds, 18 yards away from the first down on 3rd down? Going in and cleaning up the pile of a running play, by yanking the RB’s facemask?
That whole notion was doomed to fail. Want a bully, take Aaron Rodgers, that’s my type of bully.
Just goes in, kicks your tail each week, and gives the defenders a subtle wink occasionally to let them know they are getting their butts kicked.
No talk, no tough-guy bravado, no thuggery. Just azz-whoopings.
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haha, very good post. pointed and astute.
November 7th, 2011 at 6:09 am
Let’s stop for a second and see the forest for the trees for a second.
1. Rookie head coach
2. Icon, legend, owner/ GM dies
3. Rookie GM
4. Starting QB goes down for the season
If you step back, there is no way that you would expect any team to function on a consistent level. This year will be a roller coaster ride and rightly so. Still these shouldn’t be used as excuses and they need to overcome them.
I’m still p!ssed about the Defense but I will not dwell. Thursday can’t get here soon enough.
November 7th, 2011 at 6:10 am
As bad as he was yesterday, Curry was STILL far an away our best LB.
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don’t agree at all. Wimbley certainly had a better game.
Curry might have been the weakest link on the field yesterday.
2 of the TD’s, were directly on him, and he is the OLB that failed to contain the edge on a ton of those Tebow zone-read runs.
He would just go chase the RB, and completely forget about the edge.
Than, of course, the penalties.
November 7th, 2011 at 6:11 am
I won’t kill the special teams for the return TD, simply for the fact that one gunner (Taiwan Jones) was blatantly blocked in the back and the other (Louis Murphy) was blatantly held. Doesn’t excuse the rest of the guys on that coverage unit, but the refs need to do their job. Can’t miss two blatant penalties in the open field.
November 7th, 2011 at 6:11 am
I think he is trying to foster this wild, let it rip philosophy that our players aren’t capable of doing, while playing disciplined football.
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Totally disagree…I guess you didn’t see him rip into curry after that bonehead play. His philosophy or nothing he has said in the media suggest he is trying to harness or foster some wild side…On the contrary the guy has coached for organizatins with real discipline. So what you are suggesting that he is encouraging this type of behavior… thats a fantastic view you have….
November 7th, 2011 at 6:12 am
We only had 2 sacks against a guy who cant throw, and shouldnt even be in the NFL as a QB….
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Your not serious are you?
The guy WAS EASILY THE BEST QB IN THE DIVISION yesterday.
Zero turnovers, 110 yards rushing, very efficient passing, over 12 yards a completion.
The guy is going to be a thorn in our side for years to come.
November 7th, 2011 at 6:13 am
one gunner (Taiwan Jones) was blatantly blocked in the back and the other (Louis Murphy) was blatantly held
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Question, why in the fck is Louis Murphy <—aligator arms on special teams????
November 7th, 2011 at 6:13 am
the refs need to do their job
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excuses, excuses
November 7th, 2011 at 6:14 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 6:12 am
We only had 2 sacks against a guy who cant throw, and shouldnt even be in the NFL as a QB….
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Your not serious are you?
The guy WAS EASILY THE BEST QB IN THE DIVISION yesterday.
Zero turnovers, 110 yards rushing, very efficient passing, over 12 yards a completion.
The guy is going to be a thorn in our side for years to come.
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Here we go…thats what I have been looking for from you this morning, your un dying love for tebw…
November 7th, 2011 at 6:14 am
Thec07 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 6:13 am
one gunner (Taiwan Jones) was blatantly blocked in the back and the other (Louis Murphy) was blatantly held
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Question, why in the fck is Louis Murphy <—aligator arms on special teams????
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Because Hagan was cut.
November 7th, 2011 at 6:14 am
I saw Wimbley and Moss blow contain on Tebow’s two biggest runs. Not Curry. Curry did seem out of place on the McGahee run.
All in all I like Curry. That personal foul was inexcusable, but at least Denver didn’t score any points on that drive. Did affect field position though.
November 7th, 2011 at 6:14 am
I guess you didn’t see him rip into curry after that bonehead play.
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I saw him roll his eyes at him……and put him right back into the game.
If you call that “ripping” into him, than you probably are one who thinks everyone should get a trophy for participating.
That was not a “ripping”!!!!
November 7th, 2011 at 6:14 am
The guy WAS EASILY THE BEST QB IN THE DIVISION yesterday.
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So when do you annouce you are a bronco fan?
November 7th, 2011 at 6:15 am
I disagree with you JFB. Wimbley was abused yesterday badly. There was one play where he stopped on the edge and looked dead at Tebow with the ball and went after Willis as Tebow scampered outside for 30+ yards.
Jarvis Moss was abused as well on one play.
November 7th, 2011 at 6:15 am
I saw him roll his eyes at him……and put him right back into the game.
If you call that “ripping” into him, than you probably are one who thinks everyone should get a trophy for participating.
That was not a “ripping”!!!!
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Wrtong…Right after that played he was pulled camera showed hue ripping into him…Hues back was to the camera curry facing it…
November 7th, 2011 at 6:16 am
If you call that “ripping” into him, than you probably are one who thinks everyone should get a trophy for participating.
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Yeah and you should be a bronco fan…
November 7th, 2011 at 6:16 am
The wins against Houston & NY Jets are completely overshadowed by losses to Denver & KC, in my book.
we’re .500
4-4 when we should be 6-2
3rd place in the AFC West
How much has this team improved from last year when Tom Cable was HC?
November 7th, 2011 at 6:16 am
Here we go…thats what I have been looking for from you this morning, your un dying love for tebw…
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There was no love there, just all facts my friend.
He has came into Oakland in 2 games, and has 4 TD’s and zero turnovers.
I bet we get at least two turnovers from Philisha on Thursday.
November 7th, 2011 at 6:18 am
365.bcz24 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 6:15 am
I disagree with you JFB. Wimbley was abused yesterday badly. There was one play where he stopped on the edge and looked dead at Tebow with the ball and went after Willis as Tebow scampered outside for 30+ yards.
Jarvis Moss was abused as well on one play.
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The whole front 7 was abused. AND THEY PRACTICED AGAINST THAT PLAY ALL WEEK!!! WTF!
November 7th, 2011 at 6:18 am
1. So when do you annouce you are a bronco fan?
2. Yeah and you should be a bronco fan
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LOL @ my bro Thec’s meltdown
November 7th, 2011 at 6:19 am
I am confident we win on Thursday.
As we sit today, Tebow is a better QB than Philip Rivers. More efficient, less turnovers, more than one-dimensional.
November 7th, 2011 at 6:19 am
There was no love there, just all facts my friend.
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Yeah right…Against a competent Defense he is turned into a mere mortal…I will say this he does seem to have our number however, the next team he plays wont let him run the college option with success….
November 7th, 2011 at 6:19 am
Just on the bully debate…why do our defense make so many stupid penalties, derived from over-aggressiveness to exert violence? These penalties often come on 3rd and long, or when we have them backed up, or the momentum is with us but it shifts due to a first down etc.
We have Hue grring at the constant penalties, wanting to fix it, yet also wanting the D to be Ravens-like: nasty, hard-nosed.
November 7th, 2011 at 6:20 am
Lets face it. They had no choice in acquiring Palmer and Curry and Houshmanzadeh. They had 2 quality wins, but lost 2 divisional rival games, because they hadnt intended on losing Campbell and acquiring Palmer for such a high pick. And bottom line; the reason they acquired Palmer, was the failure of the first overall pick, JaMarcus Russell, and the lack of vision in acquiring a quality back-up and/or keeping Bruce Almighty. Whatever the case, they need to calm down, refocus and just play solid down the stretch. This game v. Chargers is really Carson Palmer’s 3rd pre-season game, and it is clear that DHB is being phased out. I might add that Palmer should be using the running backs out of the back-field, and Marcell Reece could be the key component…that being said, they will have to defense Mike Tolbert out of the backfield as well. This is not Denver, this is a San Diego team they will have to outscore. Palmer has the guns to do it, but will the defense show up?
November 7th, 2011 at 6:21 am
GG Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 6:19 am
Just on the bully debate…why do our defense make so many stupid penalties, derived from over-aggressiveness to exert violence? These penalties often come on 3rd and long, or when we have them backed up, or the momentum is with us but it shifts due to a first down etc.
We have Hue grring at the constant penalties, wanting to fix it, yet also wanting the D to be Ravens-like: nasty, hard-nosed.
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Head scratcher….We have changed schemes personel coaches…Only constants are amy trask and jon h. how can we spin it to blame them…lol
November 7th, 2011 at 6:21 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 6:16 am
The wins against Houston & NY Jets are completely overshadowed by losses to Denver & KC, in my book.
we’re .500
4-4 when we should be 6-2
3rd place in the AFC West
How much has this team improved from last year when Tom Cable was HC?
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3rd place in the AFC West. Are you really going to try to say that with a straight face? We’re tied for the division lead right now. I know, tiebreakers, but let’s be serious.
November 7th, 2011 at 6:22 am
Tommy Kelly said they knew exactly what Denver was going to run–that read-option–and practiced it all week. And they still couldn’t stop it.
Failure to execute is what killed them. That’s on the players for overconfidence. Tim Tebow isn’t any better of a QB today than he was yesterday. We fans can crack jokes and make fun of him…it’s up to the players to take EVERYONE seriously.
Also, it’s on the coach to keep that attitude from sinking in.
The offense played well enough to win; the way Denver’s played under Tebow before yesterday, 24 points should’ve been plenty enough to win.
Chucky B can’t be fired soon enough. Glad to see St. Louis lose yesterday. The sooner Spagnuolo is outta there, the sooner he can be re-united with Mike Waufle here.
November 7th, 2011 at 6:23 am
Yes the ref thing sounds like excuses but they are the 12th and 13th team members on the field. The TD that tied the game a bronco OL had two of our LB’s in a freakin’ bear hug! That should have been called back, no ifs, ands, or buts. On the KO return, TJones was tackled with a facemask, and again no flag. That’s not excuses that is facts right there on the DVR for all to see.
Add the fact that our Defense completely fell apart yesterday is another fact.
November 7th, 2011 at 6:25 am
Anytime you give up 31+ points in one half of play you are pretty much screwed.
We have now done that twice this season. Buffalo scored 35 in the second half, Denver scored 31.
November 7th, 2011 at 6:25 am
As we sit today, Tebow is a better QB than Philip Rivers. More efficient, less turnovers, more than one-dimensional.
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You don’t mean this.
Even a medicore defensive performance shuts him down yesterday. As Tommy Kelly said, they were running “that college schit” all day. There’s no reason that should succeed more than once, maybe twice, a game in the NFL.
Hue Jackson, Chuck B and the Raiders defense beat the Raiders yesterday more than Tim Tebow or even Willis McGahee.
November 7th, 2011 at 6:25 am
We got beat by the college option…..ROFLMAO…
Someone should have gotten fired last night…
November 7th, 2011 at 6:26 am
3rd place in the AFC West. Are you really going to try to say that with a straight face?
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Chris,
if the season ended today … we’d be in 3rd place
whats your problem?
November 7th, 2011 at 6:26 am
later gents!
November 7th, 2011 at 6:27 am
LTR….
November 7th, 2011 at 6:28 am
Antway time to move on…We wil have our hands full with SD…This D has got to step up and make plays…They will bounce back after this performace like they did against the jest….WE WILL BEAT SD…
November 7th, 2011 at 6:29 am
We dont have to worry about a running QB, and something has happened to rivers…I think one of his fellow players nailed his wife ala Marcus Allen…
November 7th, 2011 at 6:30 am
Time to focus on SD…We play them in 3 days…
November 7th, 2011 at 6:30 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 6:22 am
Tommy Kelly said they knew exactly what Denver was going to run–that read-option–and practiced it all week. And they still couldn’t stop it.
Failure to execute is what killed them. That’s on the players for overconfidence. Tim Tebow isn’t any better of a QB today than he was yesterday. We fans can crack jokes and make fun of him…it’s up to the players to take EVERYONE seriously.
Also, it’s on the coach to keep that attitude from sinking in.
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Exactly. I had the feeling that our guys on defense went in there thinking it was a party and they were just going to get to make big plays and have a party out there all day. Looked like they had no discipline and it showed in blown coverages and blown run D assignments.
I was afraid of this game because of the possibility of overconfidence on our end after Denver got embarrassed the week before and also Denver and Tebow coming in fired up with a lot to prove.
That’s exactly what happened and you’re absolutely right, SilvernBlackPA, it’s on the players for not executing and the coaches for letting that mentality take over.
November 7th, 2011 at 6:30 am
If nothing else, yesterday showed us just how valuable McClain is to the defense.
If the MLB is the QB of the 4-3, then Blackstock was Kyle Boller.
November 7th, 2011 at 6:30 am
Carson Palmer lit up SD last year and knocked them outta the playoffs… He will have an even better game…
November 7th, 2011 at 6:31 am
If the MLB is the QB of the 4-3, then Blackstock was Kyle Boller.
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roflmao…..
November 7th, 2011 at 6:32 am
herrera is an easy target lol.
my general points are to all…i just think, it’s a shame the bad timing, having to rebuild continuity with palmer. but it was a necessary ‘evil’ (dropping these two games ‘expected’ in hindsight as palmer and receivers acclimate). palmer > campbell tho, and we saw that coming to the surface today and we’ll see that getting even more potent each week onwards. Palmer allows us to spread the field for Dmac but also allows us to get all those types of passing TDs we saw today. honestly, look back at the campbell at QB, it’s all too careful, too managed, too requiring trickery as campbell isn’t aggressive and accurate/dominating enough as a pure downfield passer.
well, at least dropping the KC game anyway. The broncos loss all on the D. The main problem is we need more LBs. But we now have few draft picks next season. Burfict would’ve been a major asset. Hopefully we can parlay value somehow. trading an offensive player we can afford to let go to address a weak depth chart position like LB is for us.
Hue is wearing too many hats. Likely 2012 with a proper experienced GM, we’ll see the org flourish. We’re kinda still almost exploding into a .750 type team but held back by a few things…which are gradually being addressed.
November 7th, 2011 at 6:32 am
8 games in and we are in a 3 way tie at 4-4. Not too bad considering the past 2 beatdowns. win on Thursday and we then have 10 days until we go to Minnesota. Lose and we are 4-5 with 3 of the next 4 on the road… Thursday is a must win.
November 7th, 2011 at 6:33 am
All of you Guys have a great day…We cant dwell on the loss we need to focus on SD…
1 NATION…..
November 7th, 2011 at 6:33 am
Seymour and Kelly have been INVISIBLE the last two weeks. Don’t know what their deal is, but it needs to change.
Also, I lost count of the number of times Greg Papa made reference to Trevor Scott getting blown off the line of the scrimmage when he was in there. Maybe a DE that can hold the edge prevents one of those Tebow runs.
No DMac, no ShoNasty, no McClain. We need better next men up.
November 7th, 2011 at 6:33 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 6:26 am
3rd place in the AFC West. Are you really going to try to say that with a straight face?
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Chris,
if the season ended today … we’d be in 3rd place
whats your problem?
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You’re correct. But I’m also correct in saying we’re tied for 1st.
November 7th, 2011 at 6:34 am
Desmond Bryant was looking pretty decent at RDE. Did he even play yesterday? Surely he could’ve set the edge better than Scott or Moss, who don’t know how to do anything except rush the passer.
November 7th, 2011 at 6:34 am
You don’t mean this.
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Actually I do, and have been saying it for about a year plus.
Playing Tebow twice a year scares me waaaaay more than Rivers and Cassel moving forward. Not even a debate in my eyes.
We will rough up Phil on Thursday, and I think come away with a win, due to his periodically very poor play.
November 7th, 2011 at 6:35 am
389.Chris in NY Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 6:30 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 6:22 am
Tommy Kelly said they knew exactly what Denver was going to run–that read-option–and practiced it all week. And they still couldn’t stop it.
Failure to execute is what killed them. That’s on the players for overconfidence. Tim Tebow isn’t any better of a QB today than he was yesterday. We fans can crack jokes and make fun of him…it’s up to the players to take EVERYONE seriously.
Also, it’s on the coach to keep that attitude from sinking in.
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Exactly. I had the feeling that our guys on defense went in there thinking it was a party and they were just going to get to make big plays and have a party out there all day. Looked like they had no discipline and it showed in blown coverages and blown run D assignments.
I was afraid of this game because of the possibility of overconfidence on our end after Denver got embarrassed the week before and also Denver and Tebow coming in fired up with a lot to prove.
That’s exactly what happened and you’re absolutely right, SilvernBlackPA, it’s on the players for not executing and the coaches for letting that mentality take over.
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Truth.
November 7th, 2011 at 6:35 am
Steve’s post from last night includes a lot of information, but somehow misses the point: The Raiders are a bad football team.
They are poorly coached and unprepared to play. There is no leadership or accountability.
When I played high school football 30 years ago, a defensive end would be sat down if he bit on a fake and didn’t contain his side of the field. To see an NFL team repeatedly suckered by the same play — a high-school football play — is beyond belief.
In the 4th quarter, the Raiders’ defense truly quit. Everyone was just rushing upfield or standing still. They made McGahee look like he was in his prime.
It’s easy to forget that Denver’s offense is awful. They have no speed, no playmakers and a QB who can hardly throw straight. Considering the opponent, this may have been the worst Raiders’ defensive performance I have ever seen. And the Kansas City debacle looks even worse after what Miami did to them yesterday.
Hue Jackson is either still learning on the job or is in over his head. But this is not the same team that Cable brought to the finish line last year.
One final thought: Richard Seymour is DONE. Not only does he get dominated play after play by average guards, but he is a big talker who does not lead. There is no way that Ray Lewis or Rod Woodson would put up with their teammates mailing it in like that.
Seymour really is a bully, a guy who huffs and puffs but doesn’t perform. In fact, Hue IS building a bully. A bully backs down when things get tough.
It’s killing me to say this, but the brief revival of the Oakland Raiders appears to be over.
November 7th, 2011 at 6:36 am
We will rough up Phil on Thursday, and I think come away with a win, due to his periodically very poor play.
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I dunno, man, I worry he’s gonna have a bounceback game like Tebow did yesterday.
November 7th, 2011 at 6:36 am
Oh well, time to move on. Thanks to GB and Miami for taking care of business.
It’s now an 8-game season, gents. All tied up. Two against SD and one against KC on the agenda. Thursday is going to be absolutely huge.
Get well soon, DMac. We need you, buddy.
November 7th, 2011 at 6:37 am
In fact, Hue IS building a bully. A bully backs down when things get tough.
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Ouch. But more than a little truth there.
November 7th, 2011 at 6:37 am
398.SilverNBlackPA Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 6:34 am
Desmond Bryant was looking pretty decent at RDE. Did he even play yesterday? Surely he could’ve set the edge better than Scott or Moss, who don’t know how to do anything except rush the passer.
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Chuck B had a big stiffy and lost focus on stopping the run and went all out to put Tebow on the ground. Chcuk B should be given his pink slip today. Promote Waufle.
November 7th, 2011 at 6:38 am
The one thing i respectfully disagree with JFB on is Tebow too.
Tebow certainly has the intangibles, leadership and competitiveness, that even when his passing is bad, he can still rally the team, still find ways to make plays. But at this moment, Tebow’s pocket passing is still very bad. He has no deft touch, he just rips it in every throw, why so many passes are way off mark. The really good QBs have deft touch. They can manufacture ways to get a pass to a receiver, able to lob it over and between, to hit precise back-shoulder passes with zip or with touch, to hit a receiver in stride for YAC, quick releases, able to toy with the safeties, senses pressure and can climb the pocket.
Tebow has a ways to go yet. He is winning etc, and so there’s potential. If he can get his tangibles fixed and up to par with average NFL QBs, he could be THEN be big. But really, today, Tebow’s success was due to our poor defense.
November 7th, 2011 at 6:39 am
Oh well, time to move on. Thanks to GB and Miami for taking care of business.
It’s now an 8-game season, gents. All tied up. Two against SD and one against KC on the agenda. Thursday is going to be absolutely huge.
Get well soon, DMac. We need you, buddy.
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Well said.
November 7th, 2011 at 6:39 am
It’s now an 8-game season, gents. All tied up. Two against SD and one against KC on the agenda. Thursday is going to be absolutely huge.
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Must win.
Have to win the division to get in the playoffs. Unless the Raiders reel off 8 straight wins, they won’t get a wild card.
Barring a miracle, if the Raiders lose Thursday & drop to 1-3 it the division, playoff hopes are over and we’re pretty much down to hoping for a winning season.
November 7th, 2011 at 6:43 am
This offensive line was dominant the first six weeks of the season. What the hell has happened to them? Can’t blame it on injuries; why have they regressed so badly?
November 7th, 2011 at 6:43 am
Only 2 teams have given up more points than the Raiders, the Colts and… the Broncos.
November 7th, 2011 at 6:50 am
Ok I’m out too.
Take care all and may we post-thursday be a good night for Raider Nation.
November 7th, 2011 at 6:52 am
The Raiders were unprepared for the run option offense that the Broncos ran. People have always said you can’t use a run option in the NFL, but you can, if you have a quarterback like Tebow.
November 7th, 2011 at 6:57 am
The defense is really bad. We have enough evidence between blown leads, yards given up, tds etc. Its really bad and its also old!
Can carson palmer overcome a terrible defense and get this team deep in the playoffs? Because if we have to wait 3 or 4 years for a decent defense…then we had a bad trade
November 7th, 2011 at 7:04 am
SnB Offense Defense Specialteams Says:
Can carson palmer overcome a terrible defense and get this team deep in the playoffs?
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And can a terrible defense overcome Carson’s propensity to throw perfect passes to the other team’s secondary?
November 7th, 2011 at 7:19 am
Tebow, Tebow, Tebow
Sorry Raider fans, tough loss. If McFadden sat to keep fresh for San Diego, that’s a dumb move. Bush is good and was effective, but there were several runs that hit the secondary, which could have been TD’s with the speed an elusiveness of McFadden. He may have been too hampered to go, but there were rumors of looking past this game to next week and that can bite.
November 7th, 2011 at 7:27 am
Carson throws INTs for sure. However, the raider receivers don’t help there either. Get to the spot. Perhaps JC recognized the “limitations of these guys. I don’t know. But with a raggedy azz defense, the offense just can’t afford to be big risk takers
November 7th, 2011 at 7:29 am
just wanted to weigh in here…monday morning blahs.
1) chuck b – that little badger, should be quartered and passed out of town. the d quit yesterday. they laid down and quit like dogs…because the calls were terrible. the d was completely unprepared to handle high school football plays!!! please bring back john marshall…where is he?
2) cp shows flashes of hope. all will come together here eventually.
3) we miss romac and rundmc badly.
4) we are indeed not a very intelligent team…too many absurd penalites.
all that said and done…this is where this team rises up and beats sd on thurs, just to frustrate more. why can’t they be consistently good or bad?
November 7th, 2011 at 7:31 am
Donkey,
Raiders lose no matter who runs the ball. The defense gave up 300 yards rushing! The broncos took a knee!
The defense is total garbage
November 7th, 2011 at 7:36 am
Perhaps JC recognized the “limitations of these guys
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Nope, Carson made several throws last game that JC is just not capable of making, best example being the Jacoby Ford TD.
He does take more chances. In the weeks and months to come, those INTs will start turning into completions.
The 2011 Raiders might barely sneak into playoffs but the 2012 Raiders are gonna be the sh;t.
November 7th, 2011 at 7:37 am
Honestly, the last two games seemed to me like potential letdown games but the Thursday Nighter seems like one we should win.
November 7th, 2011 at 7:39 am
I’m starting to feel like MR pissed in my koolaid because I feel like 6-10 is more likely than 10-6
November 7th, 2011 at 7:41 am
What we’re going to see come Thursday night is a beat down lay by the dolts on the Raiders. Hate to say it, but that’s what the Raiders have coming. The dolts are reeling and will lay their frustration in heavy mode.
If the Raiders defense couldn’t stop and contain the worst QB in the NFL, wait till they play one of the better QBs in the league.
If you think that a weak donkeys defense held the Raiders offense in the second half, wait until the dolts defense has a go at Palmer. It’s only going to get uglier. After the dolts’ game, the Raiders are going to be 4-5, they will need to go 5-2 to make it a decent season at 9-7. The way I see it, this is a 6-10 team at best, and regressing badly. Who would have thought this would happen with Campbell going down.
The Raiders, for the most part, are not a tough or disciplined bunch. They have the talent and athletic ability, but they lack the seriousness to become champions, there isn’t any one player that could put the team on his back. DMac has the potential, but I am not sure how healthy he’s going to be, something is not right with a foot injury that was supposed to be a minor thing. Bush is OK, but DMac was playing like a champion.
Look at Palmer yesterday, he throws for over 300 yards, and yet his QB rating was under 80. That’s what he is, and has been all of his career, over-hyped and an INT throwing machine.
November 7th, 2011 at 7:42 am
I hear ya SnB, but that cost me my fantasy football win;) The Raiders are bipolar, I can’t figure them out. One week they look like contenders, then a game like yesterday? – although Palmer was pounding beers just a few weeks ago, so keep perspective.
The penalties are the worst, though. I’m not sure how you change that either. It’s costly.
November 7th, 2011 at 7:44 am
Superbowl, Hue? If you can’t beat the Doncos you are NOT the man for the job. Too bad you were a decent OC. Maybe that Al’s gone now we can bring in a real HC, not some HC wannabe.
November 7th, 2011 at 7:45 am
LA to TheBay Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 7:36 am
Perhaps JC recognized the “limitations of these guys
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Nope, Carson made several throws last game that JC is just not capable of making, best example being the Jacoby Ford TD.
He does take more chances. In the weeks and months to come, those INTs will start turning into completions.
The 2011 Raiders might barely sneak into playoffs but the 2012 Raiders are gonna be the sh;t.
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I would agree with this – if I hadn’t already waited a phucking decade
November 7th, 2011 at 7:46 am
HERE IS ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW -
Cincinnati – Ranked 28th, 30th, and 25th WITH Bresnahan. Without him RANKED 4th….
Who did they add on Defense the last year that made them that much better. Bresnahan is a joke. The PLAYERS are out of position ALL the time because he gets out-coached… CONSISTENTLY …
November 7th, 2011 at 7:48 am
DonkeyLove Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 7:42 am
I hear ya SnB, but that cost me my fantasy football win;) The Raiders are bipolar, I can’t figure them out. One week they look like contenders, then a game like yesterday? – although Palmer was pounding beers just a few weeks ago, so keep perspective.
The penalties are the worst, though. I’m not sure how you change that either. It’s costly.
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I feel inconsistency is on coaching team. They need to be better at their jobs. Defense gets burned they need to be quicker to react and close the holes.
November 7th, 2011 at 7:49 am
gtown1_sj Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 7:46 am
HERE IS ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW -
Cincinnati – Ranked 28th, 30th, and 25th WITH Bresnahan. Without him RANKED 4th….
Who did they add on Defense the last year that made them that much better. Bresnahan is a joke. The PLAYERS are out of position ALL the time because he gets out-coached… CONSISTENTLY …
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Agreed
November 7th, 2011 at 7:52 am
Man, this blog is hilarious.
We win a game and we could run the table and be 11-5. We lose a game and we’re the ’same old Raiders’ and our ‘revival is over.’
We had our starting QB go down in week 6 and we have had to rebuild the offense to a degree.
It’s a process.
November 7th, 2011 at 7:54 am
I’m going to be very hard on him because I know what’s in there,” Jackson said of Palmer. “I know what kind of player he is. What we have to do is make sure we don’t give it to the other team.”
I guess we will be hearing this the rest of the season. Everyone that hated Al Davis, wish he was here huh? At least we wouldn’t have to put up with the bad personel decisions. I still hate the deal for Palmer and T.J.. Al would have never let that happen. We need a GM and Hue just needs to coach.
November 7th, 2011 at 7:57 am
LA To TheBay Says:
In the weeks and months to come, those INTs will start turning into completions.
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The problem with that is that we gave up two very high draft picks to go all in this season. The team doesn’t have the luxury of “weeks and months” for Palmer to get this down.
This team clearly isn’t going to win it all this year – not with an atrocious defense, awful special teams, record-breaking penalty pace, and erratic offense. Show me a single team that has ever won a Super Bowl – or gone deep in the playoffs for that matter – with those characteristics.
I’m not hating on Carson. He is what he is. But Hue should not have been allowed to make such a terribly lopsided trade like that. Carson had not played or participated in real practices for 9 months, and he’s been mediocre for four years anyway.
Hue should’ve offered just one pick for Carson. If Brown didn’t take it, walk away and find some other caretaker QB to get us through the rest of the season. Then we would have at least had a chance to pick up someone like Tyler Wilson in the first round next season.
November 7th, 2011 at 7:58 am
whats to hate about the TJ deal? It literally cost us nothing. Who the eff cares about Hagan
November 7th, 2011 at 8:00 am
The 2011 Raiders might barely sneak into playoffs but the 2012 Raiders are gonna be the sh;t.
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WE need a D coordinator. The emperor isn’t around anymore to pull the defensive strings. Time to ante up for a real one.
November 7th, 2011 at 8:01 am
Hue Jackson is really 52yo Nigerian born Hubris Ima Stilurwalet. Was a cabby in NYC for 18 years before making his way to land his family loved Sheetcinnati. They told him it was the land of mediocrity and he should be there. Hubris still longs for his beloved Sheetcinnati while sipping his Irish coffee.
November 7th, 2011 at 8:01 am
bcz24 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 7:58 am
whats to hate about the TJ deal? It literally cost us nothing. Who the eff cares about Hagan
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Hagan played ST’s, and played well. Louis Murphy and J. Ford replaced him yesterday covering kicks. Not smart.
November 7th, 2011 at 8:03 am
Here’s a question to consider: Who has been the best defensive player on the Raiders so far this year?
I can’t even think of a candidate.
But who has taken a step – or three — back from last season? Seymour. Kelly. Bryant. Houston. WIMBLEY. Moss. Huff. Mitchell. The list goes on and on.
I think our best defensive player this season — before he got benched — was Quentin Groves.
This sad state of affairs, not the QB situation, is why we’re heading for 6-10.
November 7th, 2011 at 8:03 am
Hue should’ve offered just one pick for Carson. If Brown didn’t take it, walk away and find some other caretaker QB to get us through the rest of the season. Then we would have at least had a chance to pick up someone like Tyler Wilson in the first round next season.
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Yeah, I was laughing at comments like McCown and Garrard or drafting some kid.
Why?
We do have weeks and months. We have seasons. Carson was brought in to
1. salvage this season
2. be a long term solution
And I was also laughing at comments like “Hue nees to spend less time in front of the camera and coach.”
You guys realize he spends no more time in front of a camera than 31 other NFL coaches, correct?
I think he tried to cut it loose with Carson a bit too much. Between the first and second INTs Carson was ballin. Hue got greedy. Shoulda been the Mike Bush show, considering we needed to keep our D off the field.
November 7th, 2011 at 8:05 am
Why is it TJs fault that they used ford and murphy as gunners? They should be using Branch, mitchell, Ndukwe or other defenders used to tackling.
November 7th, 2011 at 8:05 am
Yesterdays game was the perfect example of the Raiders playing to their competition. They play well for the most part against good teams but play very sloppy and indisciplined against bad teams they should beat. Indisciplined teams blow double digit leads, commit stupid penalties,,fall victim to blown coverages,,go away from playcalling that was working,, fails to put the right personell on the field. The Raiders have a terrible history of finding a way to lose games, and yesterday was just another example. I don’t understand why D-Bey finally becomes a legit wr only to be put on the bench. That’s how you get a player to mentally shut down for the year. The best players should be on the field,, its that simple. HueJax is doing too much tweaking instead of just sticking with what’s already been working, which has cost us games as a result. He needs to scrap the whole Bully bs the way Vick dismissed the dream team crap. Bullies always lose in the end.
Build a Football Team,,,,,,PLEASE!
November 7th, 2011 at 8:05 am
LOL.
We’re 4-4.
We are what our record is.
Newsflash, ladies, gentlemen, and trolls:
We’re still in 1st place.
November 7th, 2011 at 8:05 am
Has Hue fired that piece of trash Chuky B yet?…Listen to me Hue, if you dont fire that POS he will be resposible for destroying your first and last HC job. Fire his imbeilistic ax, and give the reins to Woodson.
FIRE CHUKY B!
November 7th, 2011 at 8:06 am
I don’t see any hitters on defense. I see guys hugging and dragging, avoiding hard collisions. I see no leadership. I see an offensive game plan that requires experienced receivers who can separate to work, and a QB who’s been with the team longer than three weeks.
Alas, as I did in August, I see a team with 10-11 win talent going 7-9.
November 7th, 2011 at 8:06 am
They play well for the most part against good teams but play very sloppy and indisciplined against bad teams they should beat. Indisciplined teams blow double digit leads, commit stupid penalties,,fall victim to blown coverages,,go away from playcalling that was working,, fails to put the right personell on the field. The Raiders have a terrible history of finding a way to lose games, and yesterday was just another example.
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This is a good post.
We’re a 8-8, 9-7 kind of team, which is probably what most people saw going into the season.
November 7th, 2011 at 8:08 am
Carson was dealin’. Hue got greedy. Should have been more conservative in that 4th Q.
November 7th, 2011 at 8:09 am
Bush is no dmac blackstock is no romac that hurt
But to lay down to a freakin college offense and just quit was mind effing boglin
Kelly and Seymour are effin DONE need to cut both of them and start rebuilding the D
line
We milked seymour asuch as possible bit its time to cut all losses and stick a fork in his @ss
November 7th, 2011 at 8:09 am
No more bully talk. Not when we end up playing like a bunch of puzzys. Bresnahan is a disgrace. Why are you playing a dime alignment when the QB is NO PASSING THREAT? Why wasn’t one player like Curry assigned to not leave Tebow alone – under any circumstance? We should have been in a 5-2-4 alignment all day. Stop their run and you stop them. That’s NOT rocket science. Like I said, the defense was a disgrace today. Poor preparation and worse execution. Simply no excuse for that. Bresnahan needs to go back to the UFL where he is, at best, barely qualified.
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How can you blame the players when they line up in a defensive scheme that puts them out of position immediately? Why are we calling a blitz that has the safety coming in from 15 yds? Unless you have bionic speed, you will NEVER get there. I made a commitment to NOT go to a game until Bresnahan got fired. That was the day his hiring was announced. I implore you to do the same so the Organization can “really” go out and hire a real coach for the defense.
November 7th, 2011 at 8:09 am
2nd INT lost the game. Defense let the 60 yarder on the very next play. Very 06-09ish.
November 7th, 2011 at 8:09 am
He needs to scrap the whole Bully bs the way Vick dismissed the dream team crap. Bullies always lose in the end.
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sorry dude but Hue hasn’t said the word bully since training camp. I watch his pressers every day.
November 7th, 2011 at 8:09 am
You can all quit asking for Taiwan Jones. He’s not the answer yet. I think he’s only actually had positive yards on two carries so far. Mostly he doesn’t quite get to the edge and is stopped for a loss or no gain.
He isn’t quite there.
The huckkster claiming that DHB was sitting due to different packages being used is the kind of transparent BS that will (has?) lose the locker room. He’s absolutely full of sh1t and everyone sees right through it. DHB didn’t hang around over the bye to play with Hue’s new toy, and the huckster had to let him know he was unhappy, to the detriment of the team. What about the rule that performance equals more snaps in the game? #84 just showed up and has more balls than DHB? Murphy has just as many?
The guy is a joke and a clown. He’s lost me, and I’m sure he’s losing the locker room.
Players can’t stand a liar as a coach…
November 7th, 2011 at 8:10 am
Palmer made throws yesterday that I haven’t seen a Raider QB make in the last 25 years. Not Gannon, not anyone.
The D needs fixin. bresh will be canned after the season and REAL D coordinator will be brought in. I just hope we can at least finish 9-7 this year. Playoffs would be nice so we can say we improved over last year.
November 7th, 2011 at 8:10 am
Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 8:05 am
Has Hue fired that piece of trash Chuky B yet?…Listen to me Hue, if you dont fire that POS he will be resposible for destroying your first and last HC job. Fire his imbeilistic ax, and give the reins to Woodson.
FIRE CHUKY B!
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Al is gone.. Time to drop the dead weight and loosers. I agree 1000%….
November 7th, 2011 at 8:11 am
As a kid in Nigeria Hubris Ima Stilurwalet dreamed of building the most mediocre organization. He thought the Sheetcinnati Bungles were the best example of this. Their lack of heart & intelligence were the two attributes they had he needed to build his team.
November 7th, 2011 at 8:12 am
You know why Tommy Kelly is so jolly? because he found his match in Richard Seymore. both are “me first” dudes that really dont give a crying F about the team. Seymore is a Personal fouls machine, heck, i think he has more PFs this year than Routt PIs. Kelly is a minimum effort player that likes to gamble offsides, hurts the team way too much. These guys are the leaders of the D, pathetic… Put CHUKY B at the helm and you end giving up 300 yds on the ground to a team running the wildcat all day.
November 7th, 2011 at 8:12 am
Indisciplined,,,undisciplined,,lol
November 7th, 2011 at 8:12 am
Hue needs to turn over all play calling responsibilities to al Saunders
Time and time again its like Tom Walsh is in his ear dictating plays to him
Oh and Chuck b u had 2 effin weeks to prepare for a college team and that’s the product u put out there really? Someone please fire that clown pos
November 7th, 2011 at 8:13 am
The guy is a joke and a clown. He’s lost me, and I’m sure he’s losing the locker room.
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I assume your inside sources are telling you this right? LOL.
Maybe you’re right and maybe you’re not. You don’t know for sure and neither do I.
November 7th, 2011 at 8:14 am
BTW, Bully in Nigerian is Donkey Doormat. Hubris will announce today the signing of Ickey Woods and Donald Hollis.
November 7th, 2011 at 8:15 am
Our D is horrible, end of story.
this was like the buffalo game all over again, get a lead, D gives up.
November 7th, 2011 at 8:15 am
I do have faith that Hue will cut Bresnahan loose after this season.
He had Bres forced on him by Al and if Hue can be arrogant and stubborn, he’s no fool. All he has to do is look at the defensive product on the field and realize Chucky B is a joke and needs to be jettisoned.
November 7th, 2011 at 8:16 am
raiderjhawk Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 8:15 am
Our D is horrible, end of story.
this was like the buffalo game all over again, get a lead, D gives up.
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Just like in Buffalo, the opposing team’s offense adjusted & Bresnahan just stood there with a dumbazz look on his face.
The question changes during the game, but Chuck just keeps giving the same answer.
November 7th, 2011 at 8:17 am
Carl Weathers Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 8:10 am
Palmer made throws yesterday that I haven’t seen a Raider QB make in the last 25 years. Not Gannon, not anyone
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Yup. That’s why I was excited when he was brought on board and why I’m still excited. Two weeks with the team and making those kinds of throws? The timing/cutdown on INTs will come.
November 7th, 2011 at 8:19 am
The defense looked like a bunch of guys playing pick up football at their old HS. Guys were runnig free and wild in the secondary. LB’s and DL swarming to the QB like they got an extra beer for getting him on the ground regardless of him having the ball or not.
Fire Chuck B please.
November 7th, 2011 at 8:22 am
Yup. That’s why I was excited when he was brought on board and why I’m still excited. Two weeks with the team and making those kinds of throws? The timing/cutdown on INTs will come.
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Exactly. 8 practices and he’s throwing darts right in the hands 20+ yards down field. Picking the matchup of Moore vs. Champ was a bit confusing to me but next year with these weapons will be Warner and the Rams west coast style!
Fire Chuck B.
November 7th, 2011 at 8:22 am
Palmer will get the timing down. he is a pro. Im kind of worried Hue wants D. Moore to become the go to guy, a rookie that has not improved during the season. Ford had an awesome game, caught and ran hard. Were the hell was DHB?…Bush was playing lights out, only 19 carries? why?… TJ looks slow.
Sad, sad coaching, O, D, & STs.
November 7th, 2011 at 8:23 am
And for a ll those here NFL network is showing a football life featuring Al Davis – I think it’s on Friday Night. Set your DVR’s!
November 7th, 2011 at 8:23 am
Time to start thinking about next year….this pathetic d has no chance….if Timmy can be made to look like unitas out there I would hate to watch a massacre against a real offense
Priority number one : can bres
Two: rebuild d line….give Kelly and Seymour the boot
Three: new playcaller maybe Saunders
4: trade Bush for a real Mike lb
5: remove dead weight and there’s a lot on d
November 7th, 2011 at 8:23 am
I blame Hue Jackson 100% he is the boss of Chucky B and he runs the show.
I love Hue but here is some advice for you…..This week lets have half the media face time and twice the coaching as you did the last two weeks.
Hell even Cable could win those division games Hue call him and get some advice because you cant seem to win in the division!
November 7th, 2011 at 8:23 am
Playoffs ? Playoffs ?!?!
Maybe the talent is there. Maybe it isn’t.
Couple of things that are definitely missing is discipline, professionalism, and intelligent play.
Can’t tell you how tired I am of seeing the chest thumping, foot stomping, ball spinning, chicken without a head, celebrations after a player or unit makes a play.
Act like professionals. Act like you’ve been there before. Show some discipline. Get back to the huddle or head to the sideline and think about the next play or series. Plenty of time to celebrate and act the fool after the game. That’s IF you actually win.
Sick and tired of seeing these guys celebrating like they just won the Superbowl after making a decent play.
Bunch of azzclowns that haven’t won a damned thing, celebrating and going out of their minds in the first half for simply doing their job.
No discipline. No real pride. False bravado.
Non professional. No accountability.
Disgusting.
November 7th, 2011 at 8:24 am
4: trade Bush for a real Mike lb
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We have a real MLB. He was out yesterday. You saw the results.
November 7th, 2011 at 8:24 am
bcz24 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 8:09 am
He needs to scrap the whole Bully bs the way Vick dismissed the dream team crap. Bullies always lose in the end.
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sorry dude but Hue hasn’t said the word bully since training camp. I watch his pressers every day.
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Build a bullsh1t, where’s the hammer?
What sort of structure is this?
Discipline=the foundation.
November 7th, 2011 at 8:25 am
Time to start thinking about next year….this pathetic d has no chance….if Timmy can be made to look like unitas out there I would hate to watch a massacre against a real offense
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Um, what??
We’re IN FIRST PLACE.
Unitas? He got some easy pass TDs against blown coverages.
The rest were his legs.
This blog is ridiculous.
November 7th, 2011 at 8:25 am
Both the HC and DC were shell shocked. The looks on the faces said it all.
November 7th, 2011 at 8:25 am
Detroit laid the game plan out to a T. Man coverage on the receivers and contain the edges. They had to deal with Noskill Moreno, while we got willis, but the game plan would have net a similar result.
Nah, lets zone blitz 100 fvckin times instead.
November 7th, 2011 at 8:25 am
This week lets have half the media face time and twice the coaching as you did the last two weeks.
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You realize Hue spends no more time in front of a camera than any other NFL coach?
November 7th, 2011 at 8:26 am
Sup nation
November 7th, 2011 at 8:26 am
bcz24 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 8:25 am
Detroit laid the game plan out to a T. Man coverage on the receivers and contain the edges. They had to deal with Noskill Moreno, while we got willis, but the game plan would have net a similar result.
Nah, lets zone blitz 100 fvckin times instead.
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Al hated the blitz more than he should have, BUT some folks are also waaaayyyyyyyy too in love with it.
November 7th, 2011 at 8:27 am
Bcz24,,,it doesn’t matter if Hue isnt using the word bully in his pressers since training camp,, he created the whole idea and concept about being these tough bullies, and we haven’t come close to it. That’s all I’m sayn.
November 7th, 2011 at 8:27 am
Was I dreaming or was that Jeff George out there
November 7th, 2011 at 8:28 am
Gentlemen, please come off the ledge.
I’m not happy with the 2nd half effort or result but you guys are acting like this is college and one loss dooms the season.
4-4.
tied for 1st
November 7th, 2011 at 8:29 am
he created the whole idea and concept about being these tough bullies, and we haven’t come close to it. That’s all I’m sayn.
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Yeah but all Im saying is he dropped the bully thing when it was apparent we weren’t. Only the bloggers in here, and the media that makes fun of us still bring it up.
November 7th, 2011 at 8:30 am
Can someone please get Hubris another Irish coffee before his press conference with Ickey Woods?
November 7th, 2011 at 8:31 am
4-4.
tied for 1st
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denver is in 2nd place… how is their season looking
November 7th, 2011 at 8:32 am
Anybody catch the Baltimore-Pitt game last night? Hey Chuky B, did you by anychance see how D should be played in the NFL? I dont know how many first rounders those Ds have, but that is talent, doing your job, sticking to the plan, and then hitting people to bring them down. efficient.
November 7th, 2011 at 8:33 am
Fire Hue JAX and bring back CABLE ! Wow! Hope JC gets well soon . JaCarson will soon catch up to Rivers for interceptions this year . THree a game ? Obviously we need JC to get healthy soon Hue JAX ! IF JC is healthy I don’t want JaCarson playing QB … Someone please slap Hue JAX ! Someone call a Voodoo priest to bring back AL soon …
November 7th, 2011 at 8:34 am
Ol-Norv must be salivating looking at Chuky Bs D on film. SD put 40 on Green Bay? wow, this could be messy.
November 7th, 2011 at 8:35 am
LA to TheBay Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 8:28 am
Gentlemen, please come off the ledge.
I’m not happy with the 2nd half effort or result but you guys are acting like this is college and one loss dooms the season.
4-4.
tied for 1st
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Plausible deniability is perfectly human
November 7th, 2011 at 8:35 am
#468…. yes.
Thank you…
Most of the defense needs to go. Starting with that UFL refugee Bresnahan.
Routt as the #1 corner? McClain whiffing on tackles as the MLB? Everyone worried because CJ is hurt? Really? He sucks.
Huff running around like he’s lost in coverage? Kelly pretending he’s fat azz Chester McGlockton? Seymore drawing flag after flag for idiotic cheap shots? And why is Wimbley making so much damned money? You could replace him with an un-drafted FA and get the same production.
The herd needs thinning. No more scholarships. Produce or hit the road….
November 7th, 2011 at 8:36 am
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 8:23 am
Playoffs ? Playoffs ?!?!
Maybe the talent is there. Maybe it isn’t.
Couple of things that are definitely missing is discipline, professionalism, and intelligent play.
Can’t tell you how tired I am of seeing the chest thumping, foot stomping, ball spinning, chicken without a head, celebrations after a player or unit makes a play.
Act like professionals. Act like you’ve been there before. Show some discipline. Get back to the huddle or head to the sideline and think about the next play or series. Plenty of time to celebrate and act the fool after the game. That’s IF you actually win.
Sick and tired of seeing these guys celebrating like they just won the Superbowl after making a decent play.
Bunch of azzclowns that haven’t won a damned thing, celebrating and going out of their minds in the first half for simply doing their job.
No discipline. No real pride. False bravado.
Non professional. No accountability.
Disgusting.
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Well put. You’re not alone. This is what turned me against Davis–that he wouldn’t or couldn’t do anything about this. Callahan was right, the culture of the organization for some reason breeds this nonsense. I have previously argued that it’s primarily because of a players first environment–with nobody willing to kick ass when needed. I haven’t seen anything to prove this theory wrong.
November 7th, 2011 at 8:36 am
stablersbeard Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 8:35 am
#468…. yes.
Thank you…
Most of the defense needs to go. Starting with that UFL refugee Bresnahan.
Routt as the #1 corner? McClain whiffing on tackles as the MLB? Everyone worried because CJ is hurt? Really? He sucks.
Huff running around like he’s lost in coverage? Kelly pretending he’s fat azz Chester McGlockton? Seymore drawing flag after flag for idiotic cheap shots? And why is Wimbley making so much damned money? You could replace him with an un-drafted FA and get the same production.
The herd needs thinning. No more scholarships. Produce or hit the road….
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Awesome
November 7th, 2011 at 8:36 am
449.
T Jones gets 2 carriers and he is not ready? Denver’s defense is good at stretching the field and shutting down the outside run. TJ got 2 runs to the outside. Problem is they didn’t run enough. Bush was getting 5 yards a carry. We ran 39 times the last time we played them. Had we run more the first half we would have put up more points and not been in a close game the second half.
DHB was not on the field because he is not a play maker. He was our leading receiver because that is what the old man wanted. DHB does not go up for the ball like Moore, Ford and Chaz. If he did he would have made that catch yesterday. DHB is done because he is barely avg as a WR and D Moore is and will be the man.
November 7th, 2011 at 8:36 am
RAIDERMAN99,
I couldn’t agree more. Hue should make a highlight reel of these fools celebrating and then show the 2nd half breakdowns and remind them that it’s the end result that counts. Play like men FFS! These guys look like absolute dlnks out there.
Fire Chuck B.
November 7th, 2011 at 8:37 am
Dmacs foot is in a cast and the whole D’s sphinkters are in casts I hope they all heal by Thursday…I hope seymour and Kelly can atleast run sideways after that royal reaming
November 7th, 2011 at 8:38 am
“You realize Hue spends no more time in front of a camera than any other NFL coach?”
You do realize that Hue has more power than any other head coach in this league and loves the camera and is drunk with power.
The same thing happened to Gruden he became the media darling and lost focus and we lost 4 games in a row.
Time is not the issue FOCUS is!
So again I say don’t be distracted by the media stay focused on the task at hand.
November 7th, 2011 at 8:39 am
Gentlemen, please come off the ledge.
I’m not happy with the 2nd half effort or result but you guys are acting like this is college and one loss dooms the season.
4-4.
tied for 1st
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If you really look at it, lets break down why we should be on the ledge.
Broncos – Orton drops the ball. Or most likely a loss
Jets – Sanchez is called down inches from the goal line. Probably a loss too
Houston – Schaub got antsy and threw a goal line interception
Cleveland – Escaped with a win after allowing an inept Cleveland team to have a chance at the end after recovering an onside kick.
There has been NO blow-out wins and NO easy wins. My motto with Bresnahan is “If the Raiders are up by 7 or less with 2 minutes or less, then its going to be a loss”..
November 7th, 2011 at 8:40 am
The d lost this game for us. What dis the only thing tebow can do well? Run the damn ball! Carson palmer move was a good one. Sitting dhb is a good move.
November 7th, 2011 at 8:40 am
Hue does a brief daily press conference like EVERY NFL coach does (I believe it is required). I don’t understand where you are coming from with this ‘Hue spends too much time in front of the camera’ crap?
November 7th, 2011 at 8:40 am
Hubris just announced that he will be moving to Hollywood as soon as the season is over to start filming the New WKRP in Cincinnati starring Lindsay Lohan, Kim Kardashian, Charlie Sheen and himself. Carson, TJ and Chucky will accompany him & the rest of his posse. After the first shoot he will be available for autographs at Spago’s. He also hopes to get a deal done soon to co-host with Rachel Ray on a show featuring Cincinnati four way chili.
November 7th, 2011 at 8:42 am
You do realize that Hue has more power than any other head coach in this league and loves the camera and is drunk with power.
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LOL, ok, well if he was drunk with power, he seemed pretty sober in the presser after the game.
You guys are comical.
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bcz24 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 8:31 am
4-4.
tied for 1st
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denver is in 2nd place… how is their season looking
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Better. Salvageable.
November 7th, 2011 at 8:43 am
One other point:
HAGAN!
Our gunner on punts was missed yesterday!
Cam someone please explain to me how Taiwan Jones cant catch Eddie Royal on that punt return?
Isn’t he supposed to be our fastest player?
November 7th, 2011 at 8:44 am
Bcz24,,,I see what you sayn,,HueJax IS getting a lil over his head though, and I like Hue but I think he’s piling too much food on his plate.
November 7th, 2011 at 8:44 am
Chuck the beaver must be fired asap…this is more important than trading for CP to save the season. This weasel will ruin our chances dead permanently.
Remember in the preseason when Big Richard Seymour was asked what the defense needed to do to fix the run d, and all he could do was stand there and dork out…well now you have your answer…Big Rich knew that we have a mindless, unqualified Wombat coaching our defense. There is no fixing anything until this marsupial is gone!!!
November 7th, 2011 at 8:45 am
If you really look at it, lets break down why we should be on the ledge.
Broncos – Orton drops the ball. Or most likely a loss
Jets – Sanchez is called down inches from the goal line. Probably a loss too
Houston – Schaub got antsy and threw a goal line interception
Cleveland – Escaped with a win after allowing an inept Cleveland team to have a chance at the end after recovering an onside kick.
There has been NO blow-out wins and NO easy wins. My motto with Bresnahan is “If the Raiders are up by 7 or less with 2 minutes or less, then its going to be a loss”..
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Yeah, we’re an 8-8, 9-7 kind of team.
I think a lot of you guys got ‘drunk with expectations’ after about 5 or 6 weeks.
Put it this way, if we were 3-4 and BEAT the Broncos to go 4-4 and TIE for FIRST, a lot of you would be saying we’re going to run the table and march into SD and take control of the AFC West.
I think the Raiders win on Thursday and I’m going to save the “Ledge Posts.”
If I’m wrong, I eat crow. If I’m right, can the Kleenex Crew dry their eyes?
November 7th, 2011 at 8:45 am
“I don’t understand where you are coming from with this ‘Hue spends too much time in front of the camera’ crap”\
Really?
Are you really that dense that you cant figure that our for yourself?
Ok let me explain it to you.
When we traded for Palmer Hue had several pressers that were not planned.
When we picked up TJ Hush Hue had an extra presser.
Are you following me yet?
November 7th, 2011 at 8:46 am
Look no further than across the bay the at the difference a real hc can make
November 7th, 2011 at 8:46 am
Chuck B won’t be fired on a short week. Look for him to stay in SD after the game though.
November 7th, 2011 at 8:46 am
RaidingTexas Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 7:57 am
LA To TheBay Says:
In the weeks and months to come, those INTs will start turning into completions.
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The problem with that is that we gave up two very high draft picks to go all in this season. The team doesn’t have the luxury of “weeks and months” for Palmer to get this down.
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And just how long do you think we would have had to wait for those 2 picks to materialize into something?
Newsflash: we lost our starting QB and our backup was trash. Hue did what he could and made the best possible move. Fans like you are just going to have to wait until Palmer’s at full speed. What other choice do us fans and the team have?
Some of you act like a healthy Peyton Manning (with our playbook already memorized) is knocking on our door. Hilarious.
November 7th, 2011 at 8:48 am
“Yeah, we’re an 8-8, 9-7 kind of team”
We were that last year with Cable as a HC, at least he could win in the division!
If Hue cant win more than 8 games this year he is no better than cable!
I am not sticking up for Cable I didn’t like the fat slob but he did win in the division.
November 7th, 2011 at 8:48 am
Chuck the beaver must be fired asap…this is more important than trading for CP to save the season. This weasel will ruin our chances dead permanently.
Remember in the preseason when Big Richard Seymour was asked what the defense needed to do to fix the run d, and all he could do was stand there and dork out…well now you have your answer…Big Rich knew that we have a mindless, unqualified Wombat coaching our defense. There is no fixing anything until this marsupial is gone!!!
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Agreed – Critiquing the coach and the scheme is career suicide. Ask T.O. You can think it in house and you can say in between each other, but NEVER to the press. But the middle needs to be more stout, unless the scheme calls for them to occupy the blockers and the line backers come in and lay the wood.
November 7th, 2011 at 8:48 am
And the whole GM issue?
Aaron Curry is a player, despite that dumb penalty. Ndukwe is a good depth move. TJ’s a vet. Those cost us next to nothing.
Carson was the gamble.
But he made some throws yesterday that Raider QBs over the last couple of decades couldn’t make.
He threw 3 picks. I know. They sucked. The 2nd one was a dagger. But at one point, he was straight dealin out there. We got greedy in the pass game.
It will come. Palmer is going to be just fine and the trade will prove to be a good one.
November 7th, 2011 at 8:49 am
So. where was Boss, the TE they brought in to replace Miller? is he hurt? still?
November 7th, 2011 at 8:50 am
You can paint it anyway you like but to lose to a crappy team at home (after a bye) and to give up 300 yards of rushing = poor coaching!
Period!
November 7th, 2011 at 8:50 am
Remember when Thomas Howard would celebrate making a tackle 10 yards down field or do a celebration dance when the Raids were down by 20 points ?
Some guys just don’t get it. Never will, unless a coach or staff instills discipline and smarts. All the physical talent in the world doesn’t mean squat unless you play with discipline, purpose and smarts.
Pride and poise.
Time to start acting like professionals.
MUST WIN in SD.
Better get it together in a hurry.
November 7th, 2011 at 8:50 am
Carl Weathers Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 8:46 am
Chuck B won’t be fired on a short week. Look for him to stay in SD after the game though.
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Unfortunately, this is true.. He should be fired now though cause with 8 games left and tied for first, we need to make changes to have these guys believe in the scheme. 31 pts in a half is unfathomable by a team that scored 3 the week before at home.
November 7th, 2011 at 8:51 am
Super Chokers 35 – Oakland 17 … JaCarson throws 4 picks and Rivers throws for 4 TD’s… Bring back the Wife beater !
November 7th, 2011 at 8:52 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 8:50 am
You can paint it anyway you like but to lose to a crappy team at home (after a bye) and to give up 300 yards of rushing = poor coaching!
Period!
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Obviously.
November 7th, 2011 at 8:53 am
Get John Marshall on the phone!
November 7th, 2011 at 8:53 am
Who is going to fire Chuck? Hue? HaHaHa
Hue needs to answer some questions before Chuck or anybody else does!
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# gtown1_sj Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 8:48 am
Chuck the beaver must be fired asap…this is more important than trading for CP to save the season. This weasel will ruin our chances dead permanently.
Remember in the preseason when Big Richard Seymour was asked what the defense needed to do to fix the run d, and all he could do was stand there and dork out…well now you have your answer…Big Rich knew that we have a mindless, unqualified Wombat coaching our defense. There is no fixing anything until this marsupial is gone!!!
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Agreed – Critiquing the coach and the scheme is career suicide. Ask T.O. You can think it in house and you can say in between each other, but NEVER to the press. But the middle needs to be more stout, unless the scheme calls for them to occupy the blockers and the line backers come in and lay the wood.
November 7th, 2011 at 8:53 am
blackstock played well? Only hue would believe that….
November 7th, 2011 at 8:53 am
Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 8:49 am
So. where was Boss, the TE they brought in to replace Miller? is he hurt? still?
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He took a bad hit in the SF game and it would not surprise me if he needs off-season surgery. I think he is more hurt than they let on. Hopefully he will heal before the season ends.
November 7th, 2011 at 8:54 am
saladfingerz Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 8:53 am
Get John Marshall on the phone!
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Fvcking A!
November 7th, 2011 at 8:55 am
In my opinion having Hue perform GM duties has caused a distraction and shows on the field by the level play of the team.
November 7th, 2011 at 8:55 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 8:48 am
“Yeah, we’re an 8-8, 9-7 kind of team”
We were that last year with Cable as a HC, at least he could win in the division!
If Hue cant win more than 8 games this year he is no better than cable!
I am not sticking up for Cable I didn’t like the fat slob but he did win in the division.
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And couldn’t beat anyone in the AFC outside the division.
We beat Houston, Cleveland and New York. Still have 4 division games left.
November 7th, 2011 at 8:56 am
Boss had a concussion a few weeks ago, no?
November 7th, 2011 at 8:57 am
“Who is going to fire Chuck? Hue? HaHaHa
Hue needs to answer some questions before Chuck or anybody else does!”
Great post, Hue is the man in charge ultimately it falls on him.
November 7th, 2011 at 8:57 am
“Still have 4 division games left.”
Wrong!
We have 3 left we are 1-2 in division play right now
November 7th, 2011 at 8:57 am
Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 8:49 am
So. where was Boss, the TE they brought in to replace Miller? is he hurt? still?
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Not sure TE is a big part of Hue’s offense, despite using Zach quite a bit last year. Maybe that was a Davis Mandate.
Hue said after the game we were using more 3 WR 2 RB sets to move the ball and we were succesful doing it.
November 7th, 2011 at 8:58 am
Can we Trade Chuck B and SEYMOUR to Seahawks for CABLE and CHarlie WhiteHurs ? I think Charlie or Tavarus would be better than JaCarson pickner …
November 7th, 2011 at 8:59 am
666,
Yup, sorry, you’re right. I was thinking we could still get 4 wins in the division, not that we have 4 left, my bad.
November 7th, 2011 at 8:59 am
The fastes way to fix this thing is make people accountable. The D has been the team’s weakest point all year. Fire Chuky B and release some of the fellas on scholarship, get the message through. oh, and stop bringing people in from Cincinati, ok?
November 7th, 2011 at 8:59 am
Division games are the most important games, I cant believe I am having to point this out to you.
November 7th, 2011 at 9:00 am
Thu 11/10 San Diego Chargers at San Diego 8:20 pm
Sun 11/20 Minnesota Vikings at Minnesota 1:00 pm
Sun 11/27 Chicago Bears Chicago 4:05 pm
Sun 12/4 Miami Dolphins at Miami 1:00 pm
Sun 12/11 Green Bay Packers at Green Bay 1:00 pm
Sun 12/18 Detroit Lions Detroit 4:05 pm
Sat 12/24 Kansas City Chiefs at Kansas City 1:00 pm
Sun 1/1 San Diego Chargers San Diego 4:15 pm
If we can go 3-3 and then win the last 2 division games we probably win the division. It’s gonna be tough to do.
Fire Chuck B.
November 7th, 2011 at 9:00 am
This should be a battle royal. Other than Quentin Jammer (& he’s not impervious to singeness) the Dischargers have displayed problems defending the pass man to man. if they go eight in the box they’ll have to play man coverage; not in their best interest.
They only have one pass rusher; they are succeptable to the run.
However, this is San Diego & this is a nationally televised, prime time division matchup, so anything can happen.
I harken to a Thursday Night in 1986 when the Raiders couldn’t hold a second half lead & succumbed to the Dischargers, 30-24 or something like that in OT.
I get that same feeling. Hopefully I can overcome myself.
the Raiders play better on the road; don’t expect DMAC back; need Marcel Reese or Taiwan Jones to make a handful of plays. . .
Raiders 27 Dischargers 24
November 7th, 2011 at 9:00 am
Its cool LA to the Bay!
I can see we are both angry frustrated and looking for answers!
November 7th, 2011 at 9:00 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 8:59 am
Division games are the most important games, I cant believe I am having to point this out to you.
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LOL, and going 6-0 last year did what for us, exactly?
KC won the division and went to the playoffs. Go look up their division record.
November 7th, 2011 at 9:01 am
Morning peoples!
Mondays are so much tougher at work after a Sunday loss.
FK!
November 7th, 2011 at 9:02 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 9:00 am
Its cool LA to the Bay!
I can see we are both angry frustrated and looking for answers!
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I guess. I am angry and I am frustrated. As far as answers go, there’s plenty here in the blog as if it means anything.
Nothing we b;tch about will have any impact on what the Raiders do on Sundays (or Thursday).
November 7th, 2011 at 9:03 am
Hue can be weird!
November 7th, 2011 at 9:03 am
No GM = No leadership, no discipline, no accountability and no winning. You let Hue run the asylum and all you get are a bunch of underachieving, overpaid idiots running around not knowing what the f*ck they doing. Since Al died they beat Houston on pure emotion and barely beat a college+ team in Cleveland. Hubris has been exposed. Time to start cracking the whip. Pure talent doesn’t get it done in the NFL anymore.
November 7th, 2011 at 9:04 am
After the 28-0 loss big mouth TK said he wanted to get right back out there on the field. Well the fools will be out there in 3 days.
November 7th, 2011 at 9:04 am
How the fk do we let Tebow run that same azz play? Over and over and over and over………..
WTF?
November 7th, 2011 at 9:05 am
Why wasn’t DHB on the field more?
November 7th, 2011 at 9:05 am
Have they duck taped Murphy to the flagpole yet for being the world’s biggest idiot yesterday?
November 7th, 2011 at 9:05 am
No GM = No leadership, no discipline, no accountability and no winning. You let Hue run the asylum and all you get are a bunch of underachieving, overpaid idiots running around not knowing what the f*ck they doing.
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Look, I love Al more than the next guy, but we’re blaming Hue for having the same record at the halfway point that Cable did against weaker competition with Al at the helm.
If anything, Hue has given you guys what you wanted and the team still hasn’t been winning as many games as they should.
November 7th, 2011 at 9:05 am
Didn’t see much of Boss. Can we use him in passing plays?
November 7th, 2011 at 9:06 am
You should know, Nutty Professor.
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# KoolKell Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 9:03 am
Hue can be weird!
November 7th, 2011 at 9:06 am
Morning DMAC. We need you healthy more than ever, buddy.
November 7th, 2011 at 9:06 am
DMAC Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 9:05 am
Why wasn’t DHB on the field more?
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DHB was in the dog house.
November 7th, 2011 at 9:06 am
Why was Blacksock in for so many plays?
November 7th, 2011 at 9:06 am
Why was Blacksock in for so many plays? Why so many DB’s on the field at once?
November 7th, 2011 at 9:07 am
DMAC Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 9:06 am
Why was Blacksock in for so many plays?
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McClain didn’t play.
November 7th, 2011 at 9:07 am
Carl Weathers Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 9:00 am
Thu 11/10 San Diego Chargers at San Diego 8:20 pm
Sun 11/20 Minnesota Vikings at Minnesota 1:00 pm
Sun 11/27 Chicago Bears Chicago 4:05 pm
Sun 12/4 Miami Dolphins at Miami 1:00 pm
Sun 12/11 Green Bay Packers at Green Bay 1:00 pm
Sun 12/18 Detroit Lions Detroit 4:05 pm
Sat 12/24 Kansas City Chiefs at Kansas City 1:00 pm
Sun 1/1 San Diego Chargers San Diego 4:15 pm
If we can go 3-3 and then win the last 2 division games we probably win the division. It’s gonna be tough to do.
Fire Chuck B.
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We’ll see. Packers aside, I think we’re as good or better than any of those other teams on that list. Of course, all you have to do is look at the last two games to realize supposed to win does not equal actually winning.
We need McFadden back and the defense needs to pull itself together. That unit has been wildly inconsistent this year and is playing far below the sum of its parts.
November 7th, 2011 at 9:07 am
The Big Banana Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 9:05 am
Have they duck taped Murphy to the flagpole yet for being the world’s biggest idiot yesterday?
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Murphy should be cut. Don’t pick anyone up, just leave the roster at 52 to prove a point. SMARTEN THE FVCK UP!
November 7th, 2011 at 9:07 am
I can’t see us winning any more games until JC comes back. Hue Jax is calling plays like he has Tom Brady back there . ITs not , It’s JaCarson. PLS run the damn ball first and a couple PA passes here and there. JC atleast was clutch in the 4th ! JACarson stinks ! Slap HUe Jax !
November 7th, 2011 at 9:07 am
Wassup BB
November 7th, 2011 at 9:07 am
Hue needs to answer for D too…unless he still thinks he is a wr coach or a coordinator don’t make excuses for his hollywood arse
November 7th, 2011 at 9:07 am
Quit crying
November 7th, 2011 at 9:08 am
Why do people continue to think the team is talented? talent is being able to do what most cannot. DMAC is very talented. who else stands out?
November 7th, 2011 at 9:08 am
I still like Hue, but he sure does have me scratching my head right about now? Some iffy decisions are being made.
November 7th, 2011 at 9:08 am
I think Bresnahan’s blitzing schemes stink. Seems like our safeties are coming from MILES away. Noticed the way the Ravens and Steelers were bringing their blitzes with a guy coming off tackle right on the line of scrimmage and timing the snap.
Don’t have to be a genius to see that.
But where are the hitters on this defense ?
Is there anyone on the defense that’s an enforcer ?
Did Mike Huff make a single tackle yesterday ?
Wimbley has a chance to KNOCK OUT Tebow and doesn’t even sack him.
No enforcer. No intimidation.
Pretty good at moronic penalties though.
November 7th, 2011 at 9:09 am
LOL @ “JaCarson.”
Stirrin it up, huh?
Despite the 3 INTs, Carson made throws JC, Grad, Tui, Mirer, Brooks, Culpepper, Gannon, George, etc. etc. etc. can’t make.
November 7th, 2011 at 9:09 am
Another spectacular game from R Seymour! Way to pull on the fase mask after he was stopped for no gain and 2 other guys were taking him down! Solid move from a washed up Vet!
And L Murphy, no alligator arms this week just a complete d-bag move spinning the ball.
D-bags
November 7th, 2011 at 9:09 am
Yeah, Murphy getting a delay of game penalty for chucking the ball away when we’re supposed to be in a desperate hurry-up mode to try to tie things was yesterday’s game in a nutshell.
Got a good feeling about this next game though. I’ll just leave it at that.
November 7th, 2011 at 9:09 am
WTF was Murph doing as a gunner on the punt return?
Why not use Taiwan? The kid is always making tackles on special teams.
November 7th, 2011 at 9:10 am
Did Mike Huff make a single tackle yesterday ?
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Huff has no business playing in the slot.
November 7th, 2011 at 9:10 am
35 pass attempts for Palmer
19 rush attempts for Bush????
November 7th, 2011 at 9:10 am
Welcome to meltdown monday. We are seeing the predictable result of losing your starting qb and team leader. The result has been exacerbated by a key injuries on defense.
The biggest difference on our team for the last two weeks has been the complete breakdown of the offense. last week they were blanked, this week they coughed up the ball and went 3 & out when they needed it most. 9 interceptions and two fumbled snaps will most often lead to losses in the nfl.
This is gut check time for Palmer. Can he turn it around and lead us to wins down the road? We have players popping off, palmer throwing picks, and its starting to look as if bungles cant change their stripes. Our season hinges on palmer, as this team was clearly good enough to challenge for a playoff spot before we lost our qb. Now we have to hope against prayer, that palmer can shake the rust, reverse his penchant for picks, and lead what looks like a fractured locker room searching for identity. This is why starting qb is the most important position on the team. The entire team takes on the personality of the leader. Hu jack gambled, lest hope he doesnt come up bust.
If hu jack missed on the palmer deal, it wont be the end for him. he will need to correct it in short order however. We will then turn our attention to who HU jack brings in to groom or take over. Will it be a draft pick, or a free agent reclamation? Or palmer could become a better player under hu jack and saunders and none of this will even matter. We will be on the edge of our seats either way.
The loss of romac was huge. Not only did his absence allow tebow and company to gash us up the middle, but his loss also really affected curry. before curry teams attacked the edges on the run, for 2 reasons. Teams found out that macclain was stout in the middle and they couldnt make a living agaisnt our tackles and romac. teams identified groves as a weak spot and went after him. Once curry came in it shut down that outside run for the last few weeks. Because romac was out curry was doing too much. he flew into the wrong gaps over pursued and lost his cool. He needs romac as much as any player on the field, and the loss of romac cant be undersold.
lastly the turnovers and going three and out fatigued the defense, on top of the injuries was just too much to overcome.
the pirate ship is taking on water, can palmer save us?
November 7th, 2011 at 9:10 am
D was serviceable when al meddled…u know you are atrocious when it gets worse after al doesn’t meddle anymore…fire chucky the clown asap…should have been done yesterday
November 7th, 2011 at 9:11 am
LA to TheBay Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 9:07 am
DMAC Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 9:06 am
Why was Blacksock in for so many plays?
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McClain didn’t play.
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I thought McClain played limited.
Schit I rather take my chances w/ Q. At least he can stop the run.
Q>Blacksock
November 7th, 2011 at 9:11 am
Okay, so we sucked on Sunday. There is half a season yet to play. If I remember correctly we were 4-4 at this point in the season when we went to our last Super Bowl. Look, we didn’t have the horses to go all the way at the beginning of this season. Now with AD gone we are basically leaderless for the rest of this season. I can’t put all the blame on Coach Jackson. He is a rookie coach. The thing to do is use the rest of this season as an extended learning curve to get all the pieces to fit together and then go for it all next year. By then Palmer will be totally in the team’s system, Hue will have a whole year of Head Coaching experience and by that time we should have a GM in place to take care of the personnel moves. The team could still make the playoffs if things begin to gel. Don’t look at the glass half empty, look at it as half full.
November 7th, 2011 at 9:11 am
Jesus Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 9:07 am
I can’t see us winning any more games until JC comes back. Hue Jax is calling plays like he has Tom Brady back there . ITs not , It’s JaCarson. PLS run the damn ball first and a couple PA passes here and there. JC atleast was clutch in the 4th ! JACarson stinks ! Slap HUe Jax !
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You think JC wins that game yesterday? LMAO!
Instead of 3 TDs and 3 picks we would have had 1 TD and 1 fumble. Yeah, that would have done it. lol
November 7th, 2011 at 9:12 am
KoolKell Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 9:10 am
35 pass attempts for Palmer
19 rush attempts for Bush????
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Hue got greedy after Carson started lighting it up.
Wasn’t really the playcall, but the throw that led to 2nd INT and that’s what broke our back, though.
Still think we should have played way more ball control once we were up by 10. Hue is trying to change our identitiy cause he got a new toy to play with at QB.
November 7th, 2011 at 9:12 am
Why is Blackstock even on the roster??? Another Chucky guy from Sheetcinnati. Since when were the fu*king Bungles any good? Bringing in anything from Sheetcinnati is a sure sign of desperation. Who is coming here this week?? T.O.?? Corey Dillon?? Issac Curtis?? Loni Anderson??
November 7th, 2011 at 9:13 am
So Hue is getting the blame for Al’s defense, eh???
Al Davis hired Chuck B.
Chuck B is now calling the defense the way he wants to instead of how Al Davis wanted it called.
This is the same defense that had bad 2nd halves opening night, in Buffalo, and damn near gave the game away in Houston.
Say what you want about the offense. But it still put up 24 pts which should have been WAY more than enough to beat a team with Tebow at QB.
November 7th, 2011 at 9:14 am
It is Monday. Like last week the Raiders just lost to what looked like an inferior team going in. The Raiders play again on Thursday against the San Diego Chargers. The Chargers appear to be a better team than KC or Denver.
The Raiders have had injuries; they’ve played poorly the last couple of games. Time to get back on track.
November 7th, 2011 at 9:14 am
Hue is trying to change our identitiy cause he got a new toy to play with at QB.
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Coach Jackson may be too much of a tinkerer…He’s got too many toys, and no parents to tell him he cant have any more….
November 7th, 2011 at 9:14 am
LOL @ Loni Anderson.
November 7th, 2011 at 9:15 am
JC wouldn’t have had a 35 pass attempt game plan. He would have managed the game and won.
This is a running team.
November 7th, 2011 at 9:15 am
LA to TheBay Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 9:10 am
Did Mike Huff make a single tackle yesterday ?
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Huff has no business playing in the slot.
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AMEN!!!!!!!!!
November 7th, 2011 at 9:15 am
Guys relax a little injuries to our starting qb and middle linebacker are clearly taking a toll on this team. Lets see what happens in a few weeks when palmer has settled ion a bit, and romac comes back.
It isnt time to jump ship yet. This team was good enough to challenge for a playoff spot but not ready for the super bowl. lets see if palmer can keep us at that level, so next year we can build on it. the defense will be much better when romac returns.
Funny the two guys no one wanted to give any credit to, are now severely missed.
November 7th, 2011 at 9:16 am
Hue cut out all the gimmick stuff yesterday.
A+ for that move alone!!!!
Tried to come out in the 2nd half running the ball. Scored on the first drive.
Had 2 3 and outs on the 3rd and 4th drive because of Bush getting stuffed and penalties.
We were DOWN after that, so we HAD to keep passing.
November 7th, 2011 at 9:16 am
I don’t know, Thec. You see the potential with Palmer.
Everybody clamors for a top tier QB. Now we have one.
He’ll get the rust knocked off.
Gotta bounce, I’ll check you guys later.
November 7th, 2011 at 9:16 am
the SD game will be a challenge. If we hold to form we should win this game…
November 7th, 2011 at 9:16 am
What is Marshall doing nowadays?
Marshall>Chuck
November 7th, 2011 at 9:17 am
LTR LA to the Bay…
November 7th, 2011 at 9:18 am
Hey Hue here’s an idea: when holding a lead, keep running the ball, Bush averaged 5 yds a pop!
Hey Chuky B, here’s an idea: take a frigin vacation!
November 7th, 2011 at 9:18 am
Can anyone explain where DHB was?
November 7th, 2011 at 9:18 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 9:15 am
Guys relax a little injuries to our starting qb and middle linebacker are clearly taking a toll on this team. Lets see what happens in a few weeks when palmer has settled ion a bit, and romac comes back.
It isnt time to jump ship yet. This team was good enough to challenge for a playoff spot but not ready for the super bowl. lets see if palmer can keep us at that level, so next year we can build on it. the defense will be much better when romac returns.
Funny the two guys no one wanted to give any credit to, are now severely missed.
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Great post, by the way.
Gotta walk before you can run.
Mistic and I disagree about JC vs., well anybody better, but he saw as early as last year, it will take a few seasons to challenge for a SB.
This year, I’ll take 9-7 and a playoff berth.
2012 Raiders will be scary good.
November 7th, 2011 at 9:18 am
Pretty good at moronic penalties though.
560.LA to TheBay Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 9:09 am
LOL @ “JaCarson.”
Stirrin it up, huh?
Despite the 3 INTs, Carson made throws JC, Grad, Tui, Mirer, Brooks, Culpepper, Gannon, George, etc. etc. etc. can’t make.
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I’m pretty sure Grads could throw those INTS blindfolded…
November 7th, 2011 at 9:18 am
DMAC Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 9:09 am
WTF was Murph doing as a gunner on the punt return?
Why not use Taiwan? The kid is always making tackles on special teams.
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Taiwan was the other gunner on that play. He was coming in from the other side and got pretty blatnatly blocked in the back, otherwise would’ve been in position to make the tackle or at the very least slow Royal and limit his options. Anyone who DVR’d the game can see it. Murphy was also held on the play. But I agree, Murphy doesn’t seem to have the nature of a gunner.
November 7th, 2011 at 9:19 am
OK, now out.
November 7th, 2011 at 9:19 am
DMAC Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 9:16 am
What is Marshall doing nowadays?
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I don’t know but I hear he makes a damn good Irish Coffee!
November 7th, 2011 at 9:19 am
Did DHB take exception to doing extra work on the bye week?
November 7th, 2011 at 9:19 am
The game Is on thursday perfect opportunity to win and prepare for Minnesota next week
November 7th, 2011 at 9:20 am
hue gets all the blame he is driving this train off the cliff….
November 7th, 2011 at 9:20 am
D Moore is HORRIBLE on punt returns.
November 7th, 2011 at 9:20 am
J Hill Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 9:13 am
So Hue is getting the blame for Al’s defense, eh???
Al Davis hired Chuck B.
Chuck B is now calling the defense the way he wants to instead of how Al Davis wanted it called.
This is the same defense that had bad 2nd halves opening night, in Buffalo, and damn near gave the game away in Houston.
Say what you want about the offense. But it still put up 24 pts which should have been WAY more than enough to beat a team with Tebow at QB.
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NUFF SAID!!!!!
November 7th, 2011 at 9:20 am
When should we have run the ball more?
When????
When had TWO 3 and outs in the 2nd half trying to run the ball with Bush!!!!
November 7th, 2011 at 9:20 am
Carl Weathers Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 9:19 am
DMAC Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 9:16 am
What is Marshall doing nowadays?
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I don’t know but I hear he makes a damn good Irish Coffee!
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Thats enough for me to bring him in!
November 7th, 2011 at 9:21 am
KoolKell Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 9:20 am
D Moore is HORRIBLE on punt returns.
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Who would you suggest?
November 7th, 2011 at 9:21 am
I really dont miss JC…Palmer looks way better…some people forget the team’s best player is hurt. The O misses Dmac more than anything else.
November 7th, 2011 at 9:22 am
Taiwan was the other gunner on that play. He was coming in from the other side and got pretty blatnatly blocked in the back, otherwise would’ve been in position to make the tackle or at the very least slow Royal and limit his options. Anyone who DVR’d the game can see it. Murphy was also held on the play. But I agree, Murphy doesn’t seem to have the nature of a gunner.
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Did anyone else see the REF blatantly IGNORE that? I replayed it 10 times at home and I see the Ref just look at it and turn his head, like he didn’t want to call it.
November 7th, 2011 at 9:22 am
I miss Rob Ryan!!
November 7th, 2011 at 9:22 am
I miss Nnamdi
November 7th, 2011 at 9:22 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 9:15 am
Guys relax a little injuries to our starting qb and middle linebacker are clearly taking a toll on this team. Lets see what happens in a few weeks when palmer has settled ion a bit, and romac comes back.
It isnt time to jump ship yet. This team was good enough to challenge for a playoff spot but not ready for the super bowl. lets see if palmer can keep us at that level, so next year we can build on it. the defense will be much better when romac returns.
Funny the two guys no one wanted to give any credit to, are now severely missed.
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No offense, but RoMac was at MLB when we gave up 35 in the second half to Buffalo. He’s obviously better than Blackstock, but I’d be surprised if his presence alone would’ve saved that D out there yesterday.
And Palmer > Campbell. Campbell played well this year, best he has in his career, but Palmer made 3 or 4 throws yesterday that were as nice as any Campbell made in his two years here.
I do worry about palmer’s mobility though. He really has no getaway to avoid the rush if the line doesn’t hold up.
November 7th, 2011 at 9:23 am
I miss Matt Shaugnessy
November 7th, 2011 at 9:23 am
Ultimately the head coach gets the blame however, excluding the special teams TD we gave up 24 points to the tebw led offense… Chuck B has got to get it fixed, and keep it fixed…Romac being out exacerbated a bad situation. blackstock is a laughing stock at mlb…
November 7th, 2011 at 9:23 am
Anyone who holds the DC responsible for yesterdays atrocious performance needs to hold the HC accountible for having 2 weeks to prepare for an underachieving team, that just flat outplayed this team yesterday. That speaks volumes about his ability as a motivator and shows a complete lack of preparation. It was humiliating. The buffalo game at least had the players in proximity, with the exception of the last play, to make tackles, yesterday was mind boggling as to how ineffective and out of place defenders were. I dont think humiliating is even appropriate in its context. Nor does embarrassment. What has happened to this team? Over pursuit has destroyed this team for years. Lets just think how many more sacks we can get that detroit had and the he!! with playing your on area on resposibility. This loss falls on the entire coaching staff for being out coached and as ill prepared as i have ever seen….
November 7th, 2011 at 9:23 am
This thing is about to blow up in Jackson’s face. A loss to SD on National TV and this dude is going to lose the fans and the locker room.
November 7th, 2011 at 9:23 am
The running game second half bogged down a bit after Wis replaced Satele, but, IMO, Hue didn’t stick with it. (He didn’t use it enough in first half before Satele went out either)
Someone asked about DVD–hamstring injury so Greg Papa said.
My guess is that if Satele can’t play this Thursday or if he is severly limited, we’ll see more AirJackson on first and 10.
November 7th, 2011 at 9:23 am
I miss Marshall
November 7th, 2011 at 9:23 am
I miss Rob Ryan!!
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LOL, Rob will rip your heart out, great DC for 3 quarters, then gives the game away on the 4th…
November 7th, 2011 at 9:23 am
Yeah, we put up 24 pts, but it is clear that we are not the same Offense w/ DMAC out. This Offense is built around him. Few of those gaping holes, DMAC would of took it to the house for a score.
Credit to Bush for coming in and playing tough.
November 7th, 2011 at 9:24 am
I hope San Diego Is tired as hell and they will be playing there 3rd game in 10 days let’s hope we keep dialing up running plays and few shorter throws and please no deep throws everyone knows , it’s coming ever god damn play and their always prepared for it so why the heck are we trying to go deep every play? Why not call short , intermediate routes which have a less of chance being intercepted an please nO turnovers …
November 7th, 2011 at 9:25 am
570.The Big Banana Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 9:11 am
Jesus Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 9:07 am
I can’t see us winning any more games until JC comes back. Hue Jax is calling plays like he has Tom Brady back there . ITs not , It’s JaCarson. PLS run the damn ball first and a couple PA passes here and there. JC atleast was clutch in the 4th ! JACarson stinks ! Slap HUe Jax !
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You think JC wins that game yesterday? LMAO!
Instead of 3 TDs and 3 picks we would have had 1 TD and 1 fumble. Yeah, that would have done it. lol
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Bush would have had 130 rushing and JC would have had 1 TD and 1TD rushing. JC has never lost in the AFC WEST true or false ? JaCarson 0-2 ! HUe Wax 1-2 ! Cable 6-0 ! True or false ?
November 7th, 2011 at 9:25 am
Dear Mark Davis, Please call Bill Parcells, give him a blank check & 2+ years to get us to the SB. Tell him to break out the big stick and to crack the whip as much as he wants. This team is better than any other Parcells has had since NY Giants in 1986. Its time for discipline, accountability and fines up the azz. No more letting Hubris Ima Stilurwalet and the inmates running this asylum.
November 7th, 2011 at 9:25 am
Thec07 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 9:21 am
KoolKell Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 9:20 am
D Moore is HORRIBLE on punt returns.
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Who would you suggest?
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Somebody else.
November 7th, 2011 at 9:25 am
Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 9:23 am
I miss Rob Ryan!!
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LOL, Rob will rip your heart out, great DC for 3 quarters, then gives the game away on the 4th…
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better than 2 quarters…
Can imagine what he would dial up with no Al over him..
November 7th, 2011 at 9:26 am
blackstock is a laughing stock at mlb…
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Like I said. I would of took my chances w/ Q over Blackstock. At least he knows how to play the run!
November 7th, 2011 at 9:26 am
30 penalties and 250 yards in just 2 games aginst the Donks?… You can’t give any team that many first downs and Free plays…. Were lucky we didn’t lose both game aginst the Donks….any progress the Raiders had made is now gone…
Still Hue insists on going away from the Run, Bush was running allover them… Hue just refuses to stick with the Run….why not ease Palmer in?.. High percentage passes to the TE or RB’s…at least till Palmer knocks the rust off…The Defense should be embarressed…they should crawl in a hole…I’m still sick to my stomach thinking about this game and the nose dive this teams taken…. I don’t blame Palmer..
November 7th, 2011 at 9:26 am
KoolKell Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 9:25 am
Thec07 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 9:21 am
KoolKell Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 9:20 am
D Moore is HORRIBLE on punt returns.
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Who would you suggest?
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Somebody else.
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Brilliant…
November 7th, 2011 at 9:27 am
John Marshall is coaching defense for the Virginia Destroyers of the UFL who’s head coach is…………………Marty Schltenheimer.
November 7th, 2011 at 9:28 am
Marty still coaching?
November 7th, 2011 at 9:28 am
I think hue is doing a pretty good job , he just need to stick with running more and call deep plays less , they won’t be surprised if they know it’s comin every single time ..
November 7th, 2011 at 9:28 am
MistaBrown Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 9:23 am
This thing is about to blow up in Jackson’s face. A loss to SD on National TV and this dude is going to lose the fans and the locker room.
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got a funny feeling he lost some of the guys with the CP signing….He loses on Thursday the wheels will come off…
November 7th, 2011 at 9:28 am
Marty Schottenheimer for Defensive Coordinator!!!
November 7th, 2011 at 9:28 am
Someone else mentioned this.
Why is Huff playing the nickel????????????
WHY????????
November 7th, 2011 at 9:29 am
Marty Schottenheimer for Defensive Coordinator!!!
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He HATES Oakland….
November 7th, 2011 at 9:29 am
Welp. In a must win game, we lost. It hurts.
November 7th, 2011 at 9:30 am
Thec07 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 9:29 am
Marty Schottenheimer for Defensive Coordinator!!!
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He HATES Oakland….
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Correction. He hates Al Davis.
November 7th, 2011 at 9:30 am
Why is Gio so much on the field?
Dude is cool for a back-up. Thats about it.
November 7th, 2011 at 9:30 am
What? Marty & Marshall together? bring them both!
The scholarship fellas would have a tough time sticking with Maty being his bitterkunt self holding people accountable!
November 7th, 2011 at 9:31 am
Fact is that if we lose 3 more games our season is over. We will not get into the playoffs with a 9-7 record. We can very easily lose this Thursday, and are probably going to get smoked by Detroit and Green Bay..
Thursday’s game is the season, we lose that game, The wheels will fall off this bandwagon and this team will shut it down for the rest of the season..all while getting Palmer killed.
Our defense should just be plain EMBARASSED for what they showed yesterday. Huff SUCKED and Seymour proves time and time again that he is an idiot.
This team is going nowhere fast. I fully expect to be absolutely annihilated on Thursday by the Chargers..How could I not be? We just made a 10th grade offensive scheme look like the 1990 49ers offense.
Truly Sickening..Liked watching Carson throw some passes that nobody has been able to even come close to since Gannon (mabey) This team is a joke without DMAC..and he can’t stay on the field. Looks like a 7-9 year again boys. The shame is that if these guys would get their heads out of their a$$es with the penalties it wouldn’t be like that.
For some of you who are on here who have never played the game and may be wondering about this kind of stuff..It is NOT hard to not commit a penalty..let me repeat NOT hard at all. Sure, sometimes you get into a weird position, and something strange happens and you accidentally block in the back or something but I may have been called for 1 penalty in an entire season, but these guys who are getting called 2-3 times a GAME for penalties should be fined, and benched IMO..that crap with Taiwan Jones during the Field Goal attempts was some of the worst crap I have ever seen in my life (notice he didn’t get a carry after that) This jumping offsides by our OFFENSE at HOME is beyond my ability to comprehend..look, sometimes you forget the snap count, we all do, but its real easy to make it a non issue..you forget? Just wait till the BALL IS SNAPPED THEN YOU IDIOT!!!!!!!!
The Curry, Seymour, and Taiwan penalties seriously almost made me turn my TV off to football for the rest of the year. I have a life to live..I can’t waste my time watching such idiocy. Makes me feel stupid for watching people do such stupid stuff. If I want to watch idiots do dumbA$$ Sh!t on Video, Ill just watch TOSH.O..least its funny. This isn’t funny, it’s a waste of everyone’s time.
Disgusting, Embarassing, and unfortunately, NOTHING NEW.
F()cking Raiders S()ck….AGAIN!
November 7th, 2011 at 9:32 am
Have D coordinators ever been fired halfway through a season? I don’t recall any, but I’m sure they have been.
November 7th, 2011 at 9:32 am
Let’s get back to smash mouth football . Don’t call pass plays unless u really have to
November 7th, 2011 at 9:32 am
Like I have been saying….
CUT GIORDANO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 7th, 2011 at 9:32 am
This team isn’t smart enough to be accountable…. To be accountable you have to understand why you need accountability …what the F— does it take….. The excuse that it’s ” the Raiders” is horsesh-t… some of these guys are just plain stupid… Can’t sugarcoat it….some of these idiots need to be sent packing… It’s the only way to get the message across…
November 7th, 2011 at 9:32 am
Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 9:21 am
I really dont miss JC…Palmer looks way better…some people forget the team’s best player is hurt. The O misses Dmac more than anything else.
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Good post. How easily people forget about our offensive MVP, eh?
November 7th, 2011 at 9:32 am
As for Tebow–I doubt that John Elway will stick with him as his long term qb solution, but I do believe that Tebow can become the next Steve Young if there exists a team that will give him all kinds of playing time–just don’t think it will be Denver. Elway and Fox want a pocket passer.
As for strict pocket passers such as Palmer–if they are having a good year throwing, it’s great, but I do believe that teams that ultimately make it to the Super Bowl have qbs who can move a bit and get the important occasional first down. Of course, injuries often diminish their mobility, but as long as they are big and healthy (Big Ben, Aaron Rodgers, Cam Newton)they can at least prolong a play.
Imagine how many Super Bowls Dan Marino might have won if only he could have run to the sidelines for an occasional first down or if only he could have used his feet just a bit more to evade the rush.
November 7th, 2011 at 9:34 am
Romac and curry make each other better. This is what was confirmed in yesterdays humiliating loss. The team couldnt stop the run, although curry is super athletic trying to have him call the plays and the pressure of trying to help make up for romac loss was too much. he was out of control, shooting the wrong gaps and overrunning the ball.
The qb must step up. we had the lead and the turnovers changed the fortune of the game. Turing the ball over and failing to pick up firstdowns just tired out a depleted defense. this is how we lost the lead. Carson needs to distribute the ball and avoid the crtical errors.
November 7th, 2011 at 9:35 am
Give it rest now fellas .. Too much anger is not good for health …
November 7th, 2011 at 9:37 am
As for Tebow–I doubt that John Elway will stick with him as his long term qb solution, but I do believe that Tebow can become the next Steve Young if there exists a team that will give him all kinds of playing time–just don’t think it will be Denver. Elway and Fox want a pocket passer.
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whats going to happen is he is going to play against a competent D and get exposed just like Detroit did him…
He could only get away with running the college option against us…
November 7th, 2011 at 9:37 am
Hey Coach(?)let me suggest your real slogan…
Building a DUMMY!
and it starts at the top…
November 7th, 2011 at 9:37 am
This Thurs night game against SD is a must win and the winner wins the AFC West I think based on schedules. Let’s see if Hue can rally his troops else he’ll lose the locker room.
November 7th, 2011 at 9:37 am
We lost because turnovers and bad D.. Correct those 2 plays and we’re talking about a win on Thursday…
November 7th, 2011 at 9:37 am
We got the sh1t kicked out of us by the college option…lol
November 7th, 2011 at 9:38 am
Callahan was right…”Dumbest team in America” for sure.
Hue said re: the penalties, “it might be game 16 when it gets fixed”. If that’s the case, the Raiders will be watching the playoffs on TV.
Two horrible performances at home in a row. Defense was terrible…blown coverages…idiotic penalties…couldn’t tackle…no contain on edges…
November 7th, 2011 at 9:38 am
VanHeathen Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 9:37 am
Hey Coach(?)let me suggest your real slogan…
Building a DUMMY!
and it starts at the top…
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ROFLAMO….
November 7th, 2011 at 9:39 am
Before the KC game the D was playing pretty good….
They need to get back to that form…If so we will be okay…If not fire Chuck B
November 7th, 2011 at 9:40 am
So did McClain play or not? limited?
November 7th, 2011 at 9:40 am
You guys are freaking nuts for saying stupid sh!t like if he lose he will lose this Thursday he will lose the locker room , the guy who was Herr before was pretty bad both his years but he didn’t lose no locker room
November 7th, 2011 at 9:40 am
Questions need answering.
Why was DHB not used?
Why was Boss not used?
Why did McClain not play?
Why so undisciplined?
November 7th, 2011 at 9:40 am
Did DVD get hurt at the end of the game?
I saw Lito out there.
November 7th, 2011 at 9:41 am
DeuceDeuce Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 9:40 am
Questions need answering.
Why was DHB not used?
Why was Boss not used?
Why did McClain not play?
Why so undisciplined?
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Why is Huff playing the nickel?
November 7th, 2011 at 9:41 am
Kick coverage has turned into a joke.
November 7th, 2011 at 9:42 am
DMAC Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 9:41 am
DeuceDeuce Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 9:40 am
Questions need answering.
Why was DHB not used?
Why was Boss not used?
Why did McClain not play?
Why so undisciplined?
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Why is Huff playing the nickel?
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For years everyone has said Huff should be converted to CB… I never got it? Why? How?
He has never looked good enough to play CB to me.
November 7th, 2011 at 9:43 am
Questions need answering.
Why was DHB not used?
Why was Boss not used?
Why did McClain not play?
Why so undisciplined?
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Why is Huff playing the nickel?
Why did we pick up Tj?
Why was Hagan whacked?
Why did Hue never like Hagan?
November 7th, 2011 at 9:43 am
Why is Jacoby not returning Punts?
November 7th, 2011 at 9:43 am
Hubris will be coming out this Christmas with his own brand of Irish coffee. The Hubris brands slogan is “I may not know how to coach football but this sh&t is da*n good!
November 7th, 2011 at 9:43 am
DMAC Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 9:40 am
So did McClain play or not? limited?
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nope all laughing stock
November 7th, 2011 at 9:44 am
DeuceDeuce Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 9:42 am
DMAC Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 9:41 am
DeuceDeuce Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 9:40 am
Questions need answering.
Why was DHB not used?
Why was Boss not used?
Why did McClain not play?
Why so undisciplined?
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Why is Huff playing the nickel?
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For years everyone has said Huff should be converted to CB… I never got it? Why? How?
He has never looked good enough to play CB to me.
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The dude was finally starting to have some success playing FS, and then we move him to nickel back.
WTF?
And then Gio is on the field all the time? I thought dude was here to be a back up, not the starter.
November 7th, 2011 at 9:44 am
MikieG Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 9:43 am
Why is Jacoby not returning Punts?
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Hue is making some head scratching moves…
November 7th, 2011 at 9:44 am
Why does Chuky B still have a job? why why why!
November 7th, 2011 at 9:45 am
Thec07 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 9:43 am
Questions need answering.
Why was DHB not used?
Why was Boss not used?
Why did McClain not play?
Why so undisciplined?
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Why is Huff playing the nickel?
Why did we pick up Tj?
Why was Hagan whacked?
Why did Hue never like Hagan?
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Why is Blackstock in the NFL?
November 7th, 2011 at 9:45 am
Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 9:44 am
Why does Chuky B still have a job? why why why!
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Question, if you saw Chuck B in real life would you want to slap the Sh1t outta him…Just curious…
November 7th, 2011 at 9:46 am
# mcfadden20. Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 9:40 am
You guys are freaking nuts for saying stupid sh!t like if he lose he will lose this Thursday he will lose the locker room , the guy who was Here before was pretty bad both his years but he didn’t lose no locker room
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I didn’t say he was going to lose the locker room, but I did say that he would lose this season if he lost this Thursday’s game..you can print it, these guys will take a mental vacation faster than you can say ‘CrystAl’ especially with the weekend coming up after a loss and 10 days in between games…Half of them won’t, but the problem is that HALF OF THEM WILL..and it only takes 1 guy to f()ck up an entire game.
November 7th, 2011 at 9:46 am
Dude.. I want to see Chucky B. get the Woody Hayes treatment from Hue…
Maybe we should have kept Cable around just to smack the crap outta the coordinators…
Keep Running Your Mouth Huey,
Your DUMMY is nearly complete…
November 7th, 2011 at 9:47 am
Thec07 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 9:43 am
Questions need answering.
Why was DHB not used?
Why was Boss not used?
Why did McClain not play?
Why so undisciplined?
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Why is Huff playing the nickel?
Why did we pick up Tj?
Why was Hagan whacked?
Why did Hue never like Hagan?
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Hagan is not that pressing of an issue lol
Housh showed that in 1 catch..
November 7th, 2011 at 9:47 am
I will say this CP threw some bad passes however, he also threw some darts…
the 2 TD’s 1 to reece, and the other to JFORD where awesome…
November 7th, 2011 at 9:47 am
DMAC Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 9:45 am
Thec07 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 9:43 am
Questions need answering.
Why was DHB not used?
Why was Boss not used?
Why did McClain not play?
Why so undisciplined?
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Why is Huff playing the nickel?
Why did we pick up Tj?
Why was Hagan whacked?
Why did Hue never like Hagan?
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Why is Blackstock in the NFL?
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Chuck. Bresnehan.
November 7th, 2011 at 9:48 am
Hagan is not that pressing of an issue lol
Housh showed that in 1 catch..
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On the WR side however, what about special teams????
November 7th, 2011 at 9:48 am
Hey MikieG…
We’ve got WAY MORE than 1 guy who can screw this up.
Hue, Chucky B., Murphy, Huff…
November 7th, 2011 at 9:49 am
I’d put Taiwan Jones in on punt returns, assuming he can reliably catch the ball. Or Ford. Moore isn’t doing much. Takes too long to make his decision and get up field. You see good punt returns and it’s almost always the guy catching the ball, knowing where he wants to go with it and getting North-South before the defenders have a chance to break down. Moore catches it and is sort of scanning things waiting for this big hole to open up. Not going to happen.
November 7th, 2011 at 9:49 am
Hagan is not that pressing of an issue lol
Housh showed that in 1 catch..
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you replace Hagan on special teams with alligator arms Murphy? Really?
November 7th, 2011 at 9:49 am
Don’t know how much of this is Chuck B’s fault. Coaches don’t miss tackles, fail to keep their gaps or contain, take moronic penalties to keep drives alive…
November 7th, 2011 at 9:49 am
Huff didn’t do schit, but the dude is playing out of position!
Keep him up top.
November 7th, 2011 at 9:49 am
Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 9:44 am
Why does Chuky B still have a job? why why why!
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Question, if you saw Chuck B in real life would you want to slap the Sh1t outta him…Just curious…
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Nah, I would ask him why he blitz the safeties from 20 yards deep, though….and why the F he drops Hendu in coverage. Really curiuos about his reasons behind those.
November 7th, 2011 at 9:49 am
AL is not around to keep everybody in check. The inmates are running the asylum.
The end
November 7th, 2011 at 9:50 am
I didn’t say he was going to lose the locker room, but I did say that he would lose this season if he lost this Thursday’s game..you can print it, these guys will take a mental vacation faster than you can say ‘CrystAl’ especially with the weekend coming up after a loss and 10 days in between games…Half of them won’t, but the problem is that HALF OF THEM WILL..and it only takes 1 guy to f()ck up an entire game.
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In the past I would agree with this. However, Al is gone now and those dudes will not get job security/scholarships. Thursday’s game is very important but I dont think we will see guys pack it in like in years past if we lose that game.
November 7th, 2011 at 9:51 am
Thec07 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 9:48 am
Hagan is not that pressing of an issue lol
Housh showed that in 1 catch..
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On the WR side however, what about special teams????
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The punt return for a TD, there was at least 3 blocks in the back/holding. Cant do anything about that.
November 7th, 2011 at 9:51 am
# Thec07 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 9:44 am
MikieG Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 9:43 am
Why is Jacoby not returning Punts?
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Hue is making some head scratching moves…
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Watching Tebow throw touchdown passes to WIDE OPEN receivers was disgusting, especially when the fastest team in the NFL can’t get a guy wide open to save their lives..We have to throw a probowl pass and have a probowl catch with a guy blanketed all over him to score touchdowns..I was watching teams ALL day yesterday hitting guys that were open for touchdowns including Teblow..not us of course.
Just seems like this team is always a step behind. Especially on defense.
November 7th, 2011 at 9:51 am
Murphy has been terrible since his return. ‘Nuff said.
November 7th, 2011 at 9:51 am
Coach Jackson < —the Tinker…Tinkers too much and out thinks himself.
November 7th, 2011 at 9:51 am
I fk’n hate coming to work Mondays after a loss.
November 7th, 2011 at 9:52 am
Charles Beaverhand brought in his boi Blackstock, Ndukwe, Giordano…allstar ufl / colt / bungle reject team.
Beaverhand must be fired…bring in J Marshall, Ray Rhodes, Dean Pees, anyone to coach D…promote Rod Woodson. Do something man and do it fast.
The D did not quit last year. I have seen them look absolutely clueless this year…like they do not know what they are doing on the field. Beaverhand must go!
November 7th, 2011 at 9:52 am
CanuckRaider Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 9:49 am
Don’t know how much of this is Chuck B’s fault. Coaches don’t miss tackles, fail to keep their gaps or contain, take moronic penalties to keep drives alive…
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but they gameplan, call the plays, and adjustments.
It was more that gap discipline out there. There were some horrible calls. And no adjustments.
November 7th, 2011 at 9:52 am
CanuckRaider Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 9:49 am
Don’t know how much of this is Chuck B’s fault. Coaches don’t miss tackles, fail to keep their gaps or contain, take moronic penalties to keep drives alive…
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We gave up 300 yds on the ground and 120 in penalties. That’s 420 right there. Will never win the game. I was in Sea at this time last year and they were complaining about Curry doing stupid stuff off the field. What we saw on that personal foul on tebow was probably the same stupid stuff that Seattle got tired of.
November 7th, 2011 at 9:53 am
A 5th string WR/ST Gunner isnt the problem..
November 7th, 2011 at 9:54 am
Chuck Beaverhand is a mole.
November 7th, 2011 at 9:54 am
the lack of any creativity inthe game plan is most disheartening…
As soon as Palmer lofted that first pass that was almost picked,
i got a sick feeling that Dummy was gonna try to air it out to get Palmer up to speed. Damn the running game, and controling the clock…
Let’s let Carson, who’s had all of 8 practices and 2 QTRS of live action, call out audibles and change nearly EVERY play at the line, without thinking about any continuity issues with his linemen & recievers…
Supposed to make it easier for the team to transition, not HARDER, DUMMY!
November 7th, 2011 at 9:54 am
OPENING LINE – RAIDERS VS CHARGERS
Chargers -6
Has since moved to 6.5
This is virtually a playoff game for Oakland.
Lose, and postseason hopes are pretty much eliminated.
4-5 and 1-3 in division is almost insurmountable.
Can you say MUST WIN ?
5-4 and 2-2 in division and we’re in decent shape.
Saying this game is HUGE is an understatement.
Need DMAC bad for this one.
November 7th, 2011 at 9:54 am
Hue Jackson is like a little kid with a lot of good toys. He can’t play with all of them because he has favorites.
Bresnahan shows to be blitz happy with blinders. No peripheral vision. Secondary looks confused; someone is not a good reader of the opposing offense.
ST has to have good permanent gunners. Other teams have good YAC against us on KO and PR why can’t we stop them like the do us consistently? I think Lechler is a good punter and all for distance but there’s more to be desired with his hang time or our gunners are just whiffing.
November 7th, 2011 at 9:55 am
626.DMAC Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 9:28 am
Someone else mentioned this.
Why is Huff playing the nickel????????????
WHY????????
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Cause the DC is a dum@ss and the HC is a arrogant SOB! Who can’t coach em up …
November 7th, 2011 at 9:55 am
We finally have a QB that can audible at the line into better plays and were complaining..
Awesome.
November 7th, 2011 at 9:56 am
Re #686: Yeah Aig…These idiots were no. 2 in penalties last year. It’s been a big problem for far too long now. Same nonsense under Ryan, Marshall and Bresnahan.
November 7th, 2011 at 9:56 am
VanHeathen Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 9:54 am
the lack of any creativity inthe game plan is most disheartening…
As soon as Palmer lofted that first pass that was almost picked,
i got a sick feeling that Dummy was gonna try to air it out to get Palmer up to speed. Damn the running game, and controling the clock…
Let’s let Carson, who’s had all of 8 practices and 2 QTRS of live action, call out audibles and change nearly EVERY play at the line, without thinking about any continuity issues with his linemen & recievers…
Supposed to make it easier for the team to transition, not HARDER, DUMMY!
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That said – Soup couldn’t audible out of a chicken coop.
Palmer can read a defense and tell the difference between a cover 2 and 6.
November 7th, 2011 at 9:56 am
Yeah, we put up 24 pts, but it is clear that we are not the same Offense w/ DMAC out. This Offense is built around him. Few of those gaping holes, DMAC probably would of took it to the house for a score.
Credit to Bush for coming in and playing tough.
Hue should of stuck to the run a little more IMO.
But anyways like my boy Thec said…
We lost to the college QB option!
Let’s fk’n get the troopers ready for Thursday Hue!!!!
November 7th, 2011 at 9:57 am
Im not seeing these passes that people claim Jc cant make. We saw the passes down the sideline to ford last year. we have seen the passes down the sideline to DHB and moore this year. We saw the pass to reece in the deep seam, squeezed through the small window last year vs seattle. we saw the check down to running back for scores.
The truth of the matter is palmer has not been as good as jc for the past two games, but he doesnt have to be either. All palmer has to do is make better decisions with the ball and become a game manager. Also he has to get rid of the ball quicker as he doesnt have the mobility of campbell. Trying to be greedy down the field will cost him. we saw examples of this on the overthrow to moore in the deep middle, throws into double coverage that were nearly picked, and that flutter ball when he was blitzed on his final pick. he will need to try to use more of the short game until he can improve.
November 7th, 2011 at 9:58 am
I will say this….The blog is in full tilt humor right now…
November 7th, 2011 at 9:59 am
RAIDERMAN99 is right…If we lose Thursday our chances of making the playoffs are very slim…Just check out the remaining schedules.
November 7th, 2011 at 9:59 am
That said – Soup couldn’t audible out of a chicken coop.
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ROFLMAO….
November 7th, 2011 at 10:00 am
No GM, No discipline, No accountability, lots of Irish coffee = 6-10. 2012 with GM, with discipline, with accountability, No Irish coffee = 12-4.
November 7th, 2011 at 10:00 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 9:57 am
Im not seeing these passes that people claim Jc cant make. We saw the passes down the sideline to ford last year. we have seen the passes down the sideline to DHB and moore this year. We saw the pass to reece in the deep seam, squeezed through the small window last year vs seattle. we saw the check down to running back for scores.
The truth of the matter is palmer has not been as good as jc for the past two games, but he doesnt have to be either. All palmer has to do is make better decisions with the ball and become a game manager. Also he has to get rid of the ball quicker as he doesnt have the mobility of campbell. Trying to be greedy down the field will cost him. we saw examples of this on the overthrow to moore in the deep middle, throws into double coverage that were nearly picked, and that flutter ball when he was blitzed on his final pick. he will need to try to use more of the short game until he can improve.
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Really? I remember quite a few Soup passes sailing out of bounds with wide receivers running wide open down the sidelines. Please you are embarrassing yoursELF.
November 7th, 2011 at 10:01 am
Werent there some guys on here questioning Lamar Houston?
November 7th, 2011 at 10:01 am
695.saladfingerz Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 9:56 am
VanHeathen Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 9:54 am
the lack of any creativity inthe game plan is most disheartening…
As soon as Palmer lofted that first pass that was almost picked,
i got a sick feeling that Dummy was gonna try to air it out to get Palmer up to speed. Damn the running game, and controling the clock…
Let’s let Carson, who’s had all of 8 practices and 2 QTRS of live action, call out audibles and change nearly EVERY play at the line, without thinking about any continuity issues with his linemen & recievers…
Supposed to make it easier for the team to transition, not HARDER, DUMMY!
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That said – Soup couldn’t audible out of a chicken coop.
Palmer can read a defense and tell the difference between a cover 2 and 6.
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True ! All he does is win games, especially against division foes. Who cares about WINNING when you have a QB who can make ALL the throws and who can audible into a play where he throws a INT ! LOL
November 7th, 2011 at 10:01 am
Terrible, Terrible, Terrible. 3rd and 20 broncos backed up in own territory … Tebow QB draw running out of bounds for 2 yard gain and a punt and curry hits him. Game changer. Seymour thinks its ok to pull facemasks everygame, its getting old dick. How the hell do you let Tebow run all over you on zone reads? he would fake the hand off and nobody NOBODY would be out there. Terrible execution. Palmer is the man, screw his 3 picks not his fault. He is a million times better than anyone we have had. Then again, Hue needs to run the ball with a 10 point lead at home.
November 7th, 2011 at 10:01 am
CP throws a better ball than JC no doubt however, CP also takes more chances than JC….
November 7th, 2011 at 10:02 am
ANYWHO OUR SEASON RIDES ON THURSDAY NIGHT.
November 7th, 2011 at 10:03 am
Thec07 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 10:01 am
CP throws a better ball than JC no doubt however, CP also takes more chances than JC….
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Very true!
November 7th, 2011 at 10:03 am
Thec07 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 10:01 am
CP throws a better ball than JC no doubt however, CP also takes more chances than JC….
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Exactly. Its about finding the rythym & balance now.
November 7th, 2011 at 10:03 am
24 to 14. then we start getting pass happy?
November 7th, 2011 at 10:03 am
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Really? I remember quite a few Soup passes sailing out of bounds with wide receivers running wide open down the sidelines. Please you are embarrassing yoursELF.
SALAD TOSSER ,
Your right ! Much rather have JaCarson throwing passes inbounds to the other teams DB’s ! STFU your embarrassing yourself !
November 7th, 2011 at 10:04 am
566.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 9:10 am
Welcome to meltdown monday. We are seeing the predictable result of losing your starting qb and team leader. The result has been exacerbated by a key injuries on defense.
The biggest difference on our team for the last two weeks has been the complete breakdown of the offense. last week they were blanked, this week they coughed up the ball and went 3 & out when they needed it most. 9 interceptions and two fumbled snaps will most often lead to losses in the nfl.
This is gut check time for Palmer. Can he turn it around and lead us to wins down the road? We have players popping off, palmer throwing picks, and its starting to look as if bungles cant change their stripes. Our season hinges on palmer, as this team was clearly good enough to challenge for a playoff spot before we lost our qb. Now we have to hope against prayer, that palmer can shake the rust, reverse his penchant for picks, and lead what looks like a fractured locker room searching for identity. This is why starting qb is the most important position on the team. The entire team takes on the personality of the leader. Hu jack gambled, lest hope he doesnt come up bust.
If hu jack missed on the palmer deal, it wont be the end for him. he will need to correct it in short order however. We will then turn our attention to who HU jack brings in to groom or take over. Will it be a draft pick, or a free agent reclamation? Or palmer could become a better player under hu jack and saunders and none of this will even matter. We will be on the edge of our seats either way.
The loss of romac was huge. Not only did his absence allow tebow and company to gash us up the middle, but his loss also really affected curry. before curry teams attacked the edges on the run, for 2 reasons. Teams found out that macclain was stout in the middle and they couldnt make a living agaisnt our tackles and romac. teams identified groves as a weak spot and went after him. Once curry came in it shut down that outside run for the last few weeks. Because romac was out curry was doing too much. he flew into the wrong gaps over pursued and lost his cool. He needs romac as much as any player on the field, and the loss of romac cant be undersold.
lastly the turnovers and going three and out fatigued the defense, on top of the injuries was just too much to overcome.
the pirate ship is taking on water, can palmer save us?
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Great post. Palmer’s play killed us at crucial times yesterday. Two come to mind. Up seven, that high pass to D. Morre that got picked cost us a chance to go up two scores. Very nexxt play, McGahee gashes us for a long TD run to tie it. Then later in the 4th down 7, Carson gives himself up a yard short of the 1st down instead of staying on his feet, taking the hit and picking it up. The next play, Eddie Royal puts the game out of reach with a PR TD. If he doesn’t turn the ball over and hits a wide-open Moore,
we force Tebow to be a real QB instead of being run out of the stadium. So many of you are downplaying the interceptions, but in my opinion, it’s the only stat that from his line that matters. If he keeps it up, we won’t win another game. This team isn’t good enough to overcome them.
November 7th, 2011 at 10:05 am
Please, Campbell couldn’t throw an accurate deep ball to save his life.
I appreciate everything he did for the club, the guy was great compared to the walrus, but how about a little perspective, please.
I saw yesterday as Hue wanting to drive his fancy new car to check it out, instead of controlling the game and pounding Bush, and taking shots.
Big mistake, he has to drop that mountain size ego he’s developed.
November 7th, 2011 at 10:05 am
We saw the passes down the sideline to ford last year.
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I was thinking to myself last nite. Watch the propagangist come on here and brag about JC’s passes from “last year”. Dude, in 1.5 games we are already seeing passes from CP3 that other better QB’s in this league are also doing as well ALL YEAR LONG. Only JC fanatics would try to pull passes from last year….BECAUSE JC doesnt have any through 5 games this year. You’re almost as good as Mao Ze Dong’s propagandists. Not as good as Goebel though.
November 7th, 2011 at 10:05 am
Ummm.
Raiders 9
49ers 17
Jason Campbell 10.7 rating….just finished up the 2nd-worst passer rating performance by a Raiders QB since the 1970 NFL merger. And the name JaMarcus Russell doesn’t even appear on the list.
November 7th, 2011 at 10:05 am
the pass to reece what throw into a space the size of
an iPad…
November 7th, 2011 at 10:05 am
Soup is a decent game manager who can’t throw the deep ball worth s#it and can’t beat a tough defense if the running game stalls. Palmer is far better and will continue to improve game by game with familiarity and timing. Terrible defense and dumb penalties are why we lost yesterday…To a college-level QB running a college-level offense. “Oh, the shame of it all.”
November 7th, 2011 at 10:06 am
Really happy Palmer is the QB. The WR cops is a POS, but they will improve. Now lets get Dmac ready, and hope Chucky B can keep them under 25.
We make the playoffs!
November 7th, 2011 at 10:07 am
Damn Debo,
Only if Jawalrus was around to save the day yesterday. Damn that CP3 for allowing Denver to run up 300 yds on us. Damn that CP3 for allowing both Eddie Royal and Decker to be wide open that allowed Tebow to look deliver for his evangelical masses.
November 7th, 2011 at 10:07 am
So what’s new
November 7th, 2011 at 10:08 am
Jesus Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 10:03 am
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Really? I remember quite a few Soup passes sailing out of bounds with wide receivers running wide open down the sidelines. Please you are embarrassing yoursELF.
SALAD TOSSER ,
Your right ! Much rather have JaCarson throwing passes inbounds to the other teams DB’s ! STFU your embarrassing yourself !
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MR you STFU…your K+nt ass belongs over on the Castro bathhouse 9er blog doesn’t it?
November 7th, 2011 at 10:08 am
Palmer lit up SD last year to knock them out of the playoffs…He will do the same on Thursday…
The D will go back to playing the solid D they played before the break…This isn’t over by a long shot however, CP does need to play better…He has played more time than he would have in the preseason…He cannot turn the ball over with ints…
November 7th, 2011 at 10:09 am
Thec07 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 10:05 am
the pass to reece what throw into a space the size of
an iPad…
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That pass, only the upper echelon QB’s in this league make that pass. JC would never complete that pass because he would never throw it to a receiver unless he was WIDE open….unless you count Patrick Chung.
November 7th, 2011 at 10:10 am
never said audibles weren’t a good thing…
just not on EVERY play with a new QB that his line is adjusting too, it takes ore than 8 practices and 2 qtrs of football to get continuity within the O…
Yet Coach? doesn’t want to play that way…
Hue’s the Dummy…
November 7th, 2011 at 10:11 am
#723: Hey…Chung was wide open on that play…Not a Raider WR in sight…Lol.
November 7th, 2011 at 10:12 am
When has the D played solid? Im not getting this. They have ranked 25th or worse all season in Yds and Scoring, They gave up 17 to friggin Cleveland!
FIRE Chuky B!
November 7th, 2011 at 10:12 am
DMAC Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 10:03 am
Thec07 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 10:01 am
CP throws a better ball than JC no doubt however, CP also takes more chances than JC….
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Very true!
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Agreed. That’s what you get with gunslingers. If the WR is not on the same page for a backshoulder pass or a timing pass, then it’s an int.
November 7th, 2011 at 10:12 am
# aig-raiders Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 10:05 am
We saw the passes down the sideline to ford last year.
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I was thinking to myself last nite. Watch the propagangist come on here and brag about JC’s passes from “last year”. Dude, in 1.5 games we are already seeing passes from CP3 that other better QB’s in this league are also doing as well ALL YEAR LONG. Only JC fanatics would try to pull passes from last year….BECAUSE JC doesnt have any through 5 games this year. You’re almost as good as Mao Ze Dong’s propagandists. Not as good as Goebel though.
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You didnt see the deep passes to moore and dhb this year that he completed? I only used ford catch last year because ford had the sideline td yesterday. lets not pretend that it didnt happen. You cant say plamer made passes that jc copuldnt because jc actually did it its on film.
November 7th, 2011 at 10:13 am
If either of the 3 picks become FG’s we win this game…turnovers kill, no matter where they originate.
CP is a better QB than we’ve had, but he needs to stop turning the ball over…this D can’t cause a turnover to dave their lives right now…
November 7th, 2011 at 10:14 am
Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 10:12 am
When has the D played solid? Im not getting this. They have ranked 25th or worse all season in Yds and Scoring, They gave up 17 to friggin Cleveland!
FIRE Chuky B!
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Before the KC game the D was playing some good ball…We shut down foster, and Phillis, and played the jest tough and won…
November 7th, 2011 at 10:14 am
If your going to fire Chuck for cause you have to fire Hue also. Both are FK’ng up! Hue is FK’ng up the roster & the offense. Chuck is only FK’ng up the Def.
Only…lol
November 7th, 2011 at 10:15 am
Well, time to go buy a new mouse. This old one is screwed and is driving me nuts. And yes, I’ve checked the settings…It’s the schmousie.
Later Nation.
Hoping for a far happier Thursday night…
November 7th, 2011 at 10:15 am
Pretty bad day yesterday
November 7th, 2011 at 10:16 am
721.saladfingerz Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 10:08 am
Jesus Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 10:03 am
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Really? I remember quite a few Soup passes sailing out of bounds with wide receivers running wide open down the sidelines. Please you are embarrassing yoursELF.
SALAD TOSSER ,
Your right ! Much rather have JaCarson throwing passes inbounds to the other teams DB’s ! STFU your embarrassing yourself !
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MR you STFU…your K+nt ass belongs over on the Castro bathhouse 9er blog doesn’t it?
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Salad tosser get your face out of JaCarsons a hole . I know he can throw 8 ints and your tongue will still be in his Anus .
November 7th, 2011 at 10:16 am
HUFF shouldn’t have played, he looked slow, gimpy and dis-interested.
November 7th, 2011 at 10:16 am
Chuky B gave up 486 yds to Houston. It took an Al Davis miracle to win that one.
November 7th, 2011 at 10:16 am
# Thec07 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 9:47 am
I will say this CP threw some bad passes however, he also threw some darts…
the 2 TD’s 1 to reece, and the other to JFORD where awesome…
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The throw to Reece was really a great pass.
The catch by Ford was spectacular. That was some of the greatest footwork I’ve ever seen to stay in bounds.
And the ability to maintain complete control of the ball when he hit the turf was remarkable.
That’s two fantastic tightrope plays to stay in-bounds
by Jacoby this year. He was a millimeter away from stepping out on his TD return the other week. Great footwork.
Ford (despite his fumble – nice hustle by Reece to recover that one) probably played his best game yet as a WR.
Jacoby can bring it.
November 7th, 2011 at 10:17 am
VanHeathen Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 10:13 am
If either of the 3 picks become FG’s we win this game…turnovers kill, no matter where they originate.
CP is a better QB than we’ve had, but he needs to stop turning the ball over…this D can’t cause a turnover to dave their lives right now…
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True.
CP will come along, but I don’t think things will fully gel w the wr corp until next year.
November 7th, 2011 at 10:18 am
The biggest problem is the defense. They made Tebow look like Steve Young in his prime. Pathetic. And the secondary? DVD and MItchell need to be spending every free second watching film so they avoid the stupid-@ss mistakes; Curry needs to stop tweeting for Jesus every 10 f&%&ing minutes and THINK about football and how he’s gonna stop his opponent; Chucky Bres needs to teach GAP discipline to these knuckleheads. I almost became physically ill watching the defense give away that game. 31 friggin’ points to the Tebows!!! 300 yards rushing!! Are you fckn kidding me?!?!?
HueJack, the time is now, playa. You got all the players you wanteed . . .Let’s see what kind of leader of men you are. .. . Thursday night, nation.
November 7th, 2011 at 10:18 am
Chuky B gave up 439 to the Jets. The O won that one too.
November 7th, 2011 at 10:18 am
QB play is critical in the nfl, and the truth is to this point palmer has not given us what we were getting from Jc. This is why we have lost the last two games, the perciptus drop off in qb play. Yes palmer will get better the question is how much better.
he doesnt need to be as good as jc was, he only needs to be decent. most critically he must be good in the 4th quarter and on 3rd down. this is where Jc was stellar goging back to the midpoint of last season. This year he was posting numbers that trumped anything palmer has done this year or last year. we shouldnt overlook the qb play it is the key to our season
November 7th, 2011 at 10:18 am
Jesus Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 10:16 am
721.saladfingerz Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 10:08 am
Jesus Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 10:03 am
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Really? I remember quite a few Soup passes sailing out of bounds with wide receivers running wide open down the sidelines. Please you are embarrassing yoursELF.
SALAD TOSSER ,
Your right ! Much rather have JaCarson throwing passes inbounds to the other teams DB’s ! STFU your embarrassing yourself !
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MR you STFU…your K+nt ass belongs over on the Castro bathhouse 9er blog doesn’t it?
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Salad tosser get your face out of JaCarsons a hole . I know he can throw 8 ints and your tongue will still be in his Anus .
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You know a lot of this don’t you? figured you were a used up f+ggety ann Salinas Valley corncob? All run up in?
November 7th, 2011 at 10:19 am
Mangini for DC?
November 7th, 2011 at 10:19 am
And SEAL the g%$#amn edges on runs!!! I’m gonna have a friggin’ stroke!
November 7th, 2011 at 10:19 am
Chuck B. is awful, I agree. The defense is pathwork outcasts that don;t play as a whole. Our best D player is Curry/Houston as of lately. Wimbley & Routt got away with murder with their contracts.
November 7th, 2011 at 10:22 am
Wimbley….been a joke.
November 7th, 2011 at 10:22 am
702.saladfingerz Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 10:00 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 9:57 am
Im not seeing these passes that people claim Jc cant make. We saw the passes down the sideline to ford last year. we have seen the passes down the sideline to DHB and moore this year. We saw the pass to reece in the deep seam, squeezed through the small window last year vs seattle. we saw the check down to running back for scores.
The truth of the matter is palmer has not been as good as jc for the past two games, but he doesnt have to be either. All palmer has to do is make better decisions with the ball and become a game manager. Also he has to get rid of the ball quicker as he doesnt have the mobility of campbell. Trying to be greedy down the field will cost him. we saw examples of this on the overthrow to moore in the deep middle, throws into double coverage that were nearly picked, and that flutter ball when he was blitzed on his final pick. he will need to try to use more of the short game until he can improve.
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Really? I remember quite a few Soup passes sailing out of bounds with wide receivers running wide open down the sidelines. Please you are embarrassing yoursELF.
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What a joke! Maybe JC was on to something. I wish he’d been in yesterday and led DHB out of bounds instead of being on the sideline watching Palmer throw it right to Champ Bailey for int #2. Guess you’d rather see a couple of pretty passes and lose than dominate the division. We’d won SEVEN straight games in the AFC West ( six straight with JC, the other win was by guess who?), and now we’ve lost two straight. Palmer has thrown SIX picks in those two losses. Isn’t there anyone else pissed about this?
November 7th, 2011 at 10:23 am
Wimbley….been a joke.
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Agreed dudd was getting ate up on the college option….
THE COLLEGE FREAKING OPTION…
November 7th, 2011 at 10:24 am
Hue’s right about one thing…
this LOSS is on him!
From running his mouth all week, and the pathetic pass first game plan, to the lack of accountability for DUMB AZZ mistakes, Hue needs to get it together, quickly…
Just SHUT UP and Coach Hue!
November 7th, 2011 at 10:24 am
Huejack is obviously an offensive head coach which makes it critical that we have a top notch defensive coordinator. We also need a gm who can make sure the defense is as much as a priority as the offense. Signing TJ is not a bad thing, but with as many holes we have on the defensive side of the ball it signaled to me that Hues priorities may need some reorganizing. Since the preseason our secondary has been a major concern. We have the softest corners in the league. On those sweeps , they rarely if ever try to get physical and make a tackle. You then add Branch and Huff who consistently miss tackles which leads to big plays and you get a recipe for disaster. Then add a struggling linebacker core and below average defensive ends who always give up the edge and you get one of the worst defenses in the league.
The problem with Chuck B is it seems our defense typically plays ok in the 1st half. Then at halftime, the other team makes adjustments and Chuck cannot either anticipate adjustments or make any during the game. i was watching him speak to the players on the sidelines and it was clear to me as a spectator that their body language was not good. We have a very serious problem because there is a combination of good athletes who dont seem capable of doing their jobs consistently and their leader cannot adapt to the in game adjustments necessary to be a playoff team. 2 out of 8 games we have given up 30+ points in the 2nd half and in both games i dont view fitzpatrick or tebow as an elite qb capable of putting up the numbers they did against our D.
Unfortunately we will need our offense to be at full cylinders at all times to win with this porous defense. Its possible, but while CP looked amazing at some times of the game yesterday, he cant turn the ball over with our D. Our D rarely makes plays, and it was obvious yesterday. When Tebow made horrible throws yesterday none of our dbs were even close to picking one of those bad passes. i feel HueJack is a talented offensive coach, but unless our organization gets some emphasis on getting the right D coordinator and players that can actually control the edge once in a while, it will be a high scoring but potentially frustrating season.
November 7th, 2011 at 10:24 am
campbell…..Please, get over it…!!!! Dude couldn’t even think about making some of the throws that were made yesterday. How pathetic is it to rationalize your racial bias with the campbell argument.
November 7th, 2011 at 10:27 am
And SEAL the g%$#amn edges on runs!!! I’m gonna have a friggin’ stroke!
November 7th, 2011 at 10:27 am
I hope Mark and Amy are crafting a list of GM’s and Head Coaches…Hue’s building himself a hole, it’s going to be hard to climb out of.
November 7th, 2011 at 10:27 am
DOGHOUSE:
Hue
Blackstock
Wimbley
Seymour
Moss
Huff
Murphy
TAKE OUT THE TRASH:
Bresnehan
Giordano
November 7th, 2011 at 10:27 am
24 points should have been enough to beat the sorry tebow broncos… its obvious the d and ST were the guys who didn’t show up yesterday. … I would still take Palmer 10X over Campbell. ..
November 7th, 2011 at 10:28 am
The D is right where Chuky B feels comfortable:
Yds Def: 27th
Points Def: 30th
If anything, Chuky B is consistent.
November 7th, 2011 at 10:29 am
VanHeathen Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 10:27 am
I hope Mark and Amy are crafting a list of GM’s and Head Coaches…Hue’s building himself a hole, it’s going to be hard to climb out of.
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Coaches?
That statement is as much a joke as Bresnehan.
November 7th, 2011 at 10:29 am
696.DMAC Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 9:56 am
Yeah, we put up 24 pts, but it is clear that we are not the same Offense w/ DMAC out. This Offense is built around him. Few of those gaping holes, DMAC probably would of took it to the house for a score.
Credit to Bush for coming in and playing tough.
Hue should of stuck to the run a little more IMO.
But anyways like my boy Thec said…
We lost to the college QB option!
Let’s fk’n get the troopers ready for Thursday Hue!!!!
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DMAC…besides our horrendous loss…How’s everything going buddy? Peace to ya.
November 7th, 2011 at 10:30 am
This is not Palmer at all. Those were some of the best throws and audibles I have seen since Gannon. He can take us only as far as our horrible defense will go. Denarius seems to be Palmers fav and ford. Heyward-bey isn’t too happy, don;t see why he was barely used.
November 7th, 2011 at 10:30 am
751.4.2 40 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 10:24 am
campbell…..Please, get over it…!!!! Dude couldn’t even think about making some of the throws that were made yesterday. How pathetic is it to rationalize your racial bias with the campbell argument.
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Play the race card all you want, but facts are facts. This D sucks bad enough with out putting it in unnecessary sudden-change situations because Palmer refuses to take care of the ball. “Rust” and “familiarity with the offense” were not factors in missing high to D. Moore and the Bailey interception. If this continues, the Raiders are doomed.
November 7th, 2011 at 10:32 am
All I know is…My Raiders better win Thursday night. I don’t wanna hear excuses of Trust me, we are a better team than this. I want a Win Thursday night or we can forget about playoffs.
November 7th, 2011 at 10:32 am
Play the race card all you want, but facts are facts. This D sucks bad enough with out putting it in unnecessary sudden-change situations because Palmer refuses to take care of the ball. “Rust” and “familiarity with the offense” were not factors in missing high to D. Moore and the Bailey interception. If this continues, the Raiders are doomed.
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CP will need to play better no doubt…
November 7th, 2011 at 10:33 am
Curry needs to stop tweetin’ for Jesus every 10 f&%&ing minutes and THINK about football and how he’s gonna stop his opponent . . .
November 7th, 2011 at 10:34 am
CP has built a chemistry with DMO and JFORD no doubt about it however, where the H is DHB????
Did DHB go to the WR’s and CP get together over the break?
November 7th, 2011 at 10:34 am
The defense played like a sack of turds.
November 7th, 2011 at 10:34 am
Sloraider Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 10:33 am
Curry needs to stop tweetin’ for Jesus every 10 f&%&ing minutes and THINK about football and how he’s gonna stop his opponent . . .
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ROFLMAO….
November 7th, 2011 at 10:35 am
You know what? I’m still upset about our loss. Darn, I thought I would be over it by now. Maybe tomorrow I’ll be over it. I’m looking for a win in 3 more days.
November 7th, 2011 at 10:35 am
I think the common realization is that if we can’t beat SD …. were done, that would be 3 divisonal losses in a row. We would lose any chance of tie-breakers, HUGE GAME. Rivers is giving away the ball at a high rate. Lets hope ryan matthews is still out, maybe SD sees the film and Rivers runs the read-option lol
November 7th, 2011 at 10:36 am
Goldie7 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 10:29 am
696.DMAC Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 9:56 am
Yeah, we put up 24 pts, but it is clear that we are not the same Offense w/ DMAC out. This Offense is built around him. Few of those gaping holes, DMAC probably would of took it to the house for a score.
Credit to Bush for coming in and playing tough.
Hue should of stuck to the run a little more IMO.
But anyways like my boy Thec said…
We lost to the college QB option!
Let’s fk’n get the troopers ready for Thursday Hue!!!!
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DMAC…besides our horrendous loss…How’s everything going buddy? Peace to ya.
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Happy to be alive. Thanx.
I just hate coming to work Mondays after ugly losses. Hope we get it together Thursday.
November 7th, 2011 at 10:36 am
How are u doing?
November 7th, 2011 at 10:37 am
Jon Marshall Defense was way better than this moron we have as Def Coordinator, Jason Campbell would had won us that game, Time of Possession was better when he was in charge, Palmer is the next JEFF GEORGE!
November 7th, 2011 at 10:37 am
Those interceptions were all in Denver territory. .. they were not pick sixes. .. I can already see the few Campbell supporters will never relent until he’s our sorry qb again… and the lone jamarcus Russell supporter really needs to think about following cheeseburger eating contest over the NFL.. that’s pathetic!!
November 7th, 2011 at 10:37 am
What a joke! Maybe JC was on to something. I wish he’d been in yesterday and led DHB out of bounds instead of being on the sideline watching Palmer throw it right to Champ Bailey for int #2. Guess you’d rather see a couple of pretty passes and lose than dominate the division. We’d won SEVEN straight games in the AFC West ( six straight with JC, the other win was by guess who?), and now we’ve lost two straight. Palmer has thrown SIX picks in those two losses. Isn’t there anyone else pissed about this?
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Great Point ! JaCarson will always get a free pass . He can throw 5 picks for TD’s and everyone will talk about how great the spiral was on those INTS… LOL
November 7th, 2011 at 10:37 am
The Roughing the QB flag on Curry after the 3rd & 20, when they only gained a yard was as DUMB as it gets…
we’ve held them to 3 and out and are getting the ball back, instead they get 4 more downs of possesiona nd we get worse field position…not gonna win like that.
November 7th, 2011 at 10:38 am
Chuky B had 2 weeks to gameplan for Tebow. Now he has 3 days to gameplan for Rivers, Gates, Jackson, & the little Sproles lookalike…his gameplan will consist of asking everybody to run around like wild goats until the opposing team runs out of bounds.
November 7th, 2011 at 10:38 am
Doing good Man…just can’t shake that stupid loss.
November 7th, 2011 at 10:38 am
Thec07 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 10:34 am
CP has built a chemistry with DMO and JFORD no doubt about it however, where the H is DHB????
Did DHB go to the WR’s and CP get together over the break?
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Maybe CP doesn’t trust DHB yet. Schit I don’t know.
What I do know is that DHB should of came down w/ that nice pass from CP in the endzone.
November 7th, 2011 at 10:39 am
VanHeathen Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 10:37 am
The Roughing the QB flag on Curry after the 3rd & 20, when they only gained a yard was as DUMB as it gets…
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game changer. Agreed.
Seymour should have his captain “C” ripped off his shoulder. He tackles by the facemask everygame.
November 7th, 2011 at 10:40 am
24 points should have been enough to beat the sorry tebow broncos… its obvious the d and ST were the guys who didn’t show up yesterday. … I would still take Palmer 10X over Campbell. ..
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We were lucky we only gave up 38 points yesterday. Tebow missed a few other wide open WRs as well. Our D was lousy and our scheme sucked. On that Eddie Royal TD reception, our backfield was completely caught off guard and dude was wide open. No one took him.
November 7th, 2011 at 10:40 am
I’ll be back players.
November 7th, 2011 at 10:40 am
Debo, at least lay the blame where it belongs. The defense was pathetic. To insinuate in any way Palmer is culpable is irresponsible. He wasnt playing defense after it was gashed by the 60 yard run. That throw was one foot to high. If it hits the receivers hand he should make the catch. At least you and mystic are making some good points and are leaving the racial bias where it should be. Off the Raiders blog…..Fans arent the enemies here. Discuss and disagree, but be respectful and insightful.
November 7th, 2011 at 10:41 am
Really its Palmer’s fault we lost?
We scored 24 points we gave up 38!
If you give up 38 points in the NFL you will lose!
We miss Hagan on special teams it showed yesterday!
Can someone please explain to me how Eddie Royal can outrun Taiwan Jones?
Jones is supposed to be the fastest guy on our team and he was running behind Royal on that punt return all the way down the field!
REALLY?
November 7th, 2011 at 10:42 am
I hate watching the Raiders play at home. We seem to play like sht at home more often than not. So many of our good performances the last few years have been on the road (Tampa Bay, KC twice, Denver three times, San Diego and Houston this year). Even in our losses, i.e. Arizona, Jacksonville, and Buffalo, we’ve played well. I think this team has that “us against the world” mentality and is a lot more focused on the road. Looking forward to Thursday night.
November 7th, 2011 at 10:42 am
No more excuses. I’m expecting a WIN against the Chargers. It’s WIN Thursday night or start preparing for next season.
November 7th, 2011 at 10:42 am
You know what…..I’m going to be straight out honest with you guys..I still a little ticked off!!
I’m here (drinkin on some brewski) smh….but tryin to find my inner Raider self!
San Diego….I’m comin and I’m with a VENGEANCE!!!
November 7th, 2011 at 10:43 am
felt like I went from watching a team with the possiblity of winnin a superbowl to watching them bcuz they’re my team again. But at the end of the day we still beat NYJ and Houston and we’re in first place. Carson will figure it out as soon as Thursday but we can’t beat anyone if the D plays like that. We beat the Chagers we should win the division
November 7th, 2011 at 10:44 am
772.ghostraiders Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 10:37 am
Those interceptions were all in Denver territory. .. they were not pick sixes. .. I can already see the few Campbell supporters will never relent until he’s our sorry qb again… and the lone jamarcus Russell supporter really needs to think about following cheeseburger eating contest over the NFL.. that’s pathetic!!
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A INT is even worse when it is in the other teams side. It means you lost a opportunity to score. If JaCarson does not throw that pick to D. Moore we are up 2 scores game over …
November 7th, 2011 at 10:46 am
ghostraiders Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 10:37 am
Those interceptions were all in Denver territory
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Hey Einstein, you’re making my point for me. His picks took away great scoring opportunities. And one of them led directly to the long TD run by McGahee. What is it you’re not getting here?
November 7th, 2011 at 10:47 am
787.Jesus Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 10:44 am
772.ghostraiders Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 10:37 am
Those interceptions were all in Denver territory. .. they were not pick sixes. .. I can already see the few Campbell supporters will never relent until he’s our sorry qb again… and the lone jamarcus Russell supporter really needs to think about following cheeseburger eating contest over the NFL.. that’s pathetic!!
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A INT is even worse when it is in the other teams side. It means you lost a opportunity to score. If JaCarson does not throw that pick to D. Moore we are up 2 scores game over …
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You’ve been a step ahead of me all day.
November 7th, 2011 at 10:47 am
If I knew ahead of time our O was going to score 24 points vs the tebow lead broncos… I would have said. .. we won hands down.!! .. Carson Palmer will continue to jell with wr. .. and I guess the Palmer detractors will continue complaining if were Not scoring over 35 points… incredible!!
November 7th, 2011 at 10:48 am
Jason Campbell’s first game as a raider:
He threw for 180 yards in a 38-13 loss to Tenn 1 TD 1 INT
He was benched and Gradkowski won the following week 16-14 against the Rams.
If you want to compare Palmer to JC use JC’s first two starts not what he did after he was here for a while DUH!
November 7th, 2011 at 10:48 am
4.2 40 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 10:40 am
Debo, at least lay the blame where it belongs. The defense was pathetic. To insinuate in any way Palmer is culpable is irresponsible. He wasnt playing defense after it was gashed by the 60 yard run.
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Let me get this straight. You don’t think Palmer is culpable in any way?????
November 7th, 2011 at 10:49 am
777.DMAC Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 10:38 am
Thec07 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 10:34 am
CP has built a chemistry with DMO and JFORD no doubt about it however, where the H is DHB????
Did DHB go to the WR’s and CP get together over the break?
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Maybe CP doesn’t trust DHB yet. Schit I don’t know.
What I do know is that DHB should of came down w/ that nice pass from CP in the endzone.
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Looks like instead of Al’s scholarship we have Hue Jax scholar program. He brings in his favorite crappy players like TJ and JaCarson. When is Corey Dillan going to be signed or maybe CHris Collinsworth , He was a pretty good Bengal !
November 7th, 2011 at 10:49 am
Can someone please explain to me how Eddie Royal can outrun Taiwan Jones?
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Jones had to sprint at least 80 or 90 yards down and across the field on coverage and was trailing by a good 10 yards on the play after being blocked in the back. Then he had to reverse field and try to catch Royal, who is also quite fast, in a second 80-yard dash. Royal’s head start and Jones’ distance traveled are the main reasons.
November 7th, 2011 at 10:49 am
785.r8eray Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 10:42 am
You know what…..I’m going to be straight out honest with you guys..I still a little ticked off!!
I’m here (drinkin on some brewski) smh….but tryin to find my inner Raider self!
San Diego….I’m comin and I’m with a VENGEANCE!!!
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lol Sup R8eray? Hopefully things will go our way and we’ll start winning again. Cheer up…we just may be ok. Peace
November 7th, 2011 at 10:49 am
So. Lets play Boller. That should stop them 60 yard runs. LOL!
November 7th, 2011 at 10:50 am
“felt like I went from watching a team with the possiblity of winnin a superbowl to watching them bcuz they’re my team again.”
Inoneword,
It’s this kind of delusional thinking I don’t understand. That you felt you might be watching a team capable of winning its division, okay…but a Super Bowl contender? Jeeeeez. With fans that think like that, even a close win over Denver wouldn’t have satisfied them.
Be realistic.
November 7th, 2011 at 10:51 am
791.Silverandblack666 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 10:48 am
Jason Campbell’s first game as a raider:
He threw for 180 yards in a 38-13 loss to Tenn 1 TD 1 INT
He was benched and Gradkowski won the following week 16-14 against the Rams.
If you want to compare Palmer to JC use JC’s first two starts not what he did after he was here for a while DUH!
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Since we’re comparing, gave up a 4th round pick for JC. Gave a 1st and 2nd for Palmer.
November 7th, 2011 at 10:51 am
Cuase for alarm for carson, or just rust? peep these numbers
carson palmer on 3rd down 2010
95-174 1023 yds 54.6 comp% 9 tds 7 ints 8 sacks 72.6 rating
carson palmer in the 4th quarter 2010
108-182 1223 yds 59.3 comp% 9 td 8 ints 12 sacks 77.7 rating
carson palmer on 3rd down 2011
5-13 51 yds 38.5 comp% 1 td 1 int 1 sack 44.1 rating
carson palmer in the 4th quarter 2011
11-26 168 yds 42.3 comp % 0 tds 4 ints 1 sack 24.7 rating
as you can see this isnt very good. Just sp we can appreciate the value of clutch qb play lest take a look at Jc’s numbers. it will give us a feel for why losing our qb is the biggest reason for the recent struggles, and disprove the notion that palmer is some magic bullet instant upgrade.
Jc on 3rd down 2010
54-102 756 yds 52.9 comp% 6 tds 2 ints 14 sacks 88.5 rating
( on 4th down he was 5-6 1 td 0 picks for a ridiculous 145.1 rating)
Jc in the 4th quarter 2010
59-94 756 yds 6.8 comp% 4 tds 1 int 5 sacks 97.7 rating
in overtime 1-1 47 yds 118. rating
Jc on 3rd down 2011
27-48 303 yds 56.3 comp % 2tds 0 ints 1 sack 89.2 rating
Jc in the 4th quarter 2011
24-41 404 yds 58.5 comp % 4 tds 2 ints 0 sack 104.1 rating
This clearly illustrates that Jc was money in the clutch and palmer has big shoes to fill. lets hope he can at the least come close.
This also disproves the myth of the instant upgrade theory as jc was clearly better in critical situations.
But if palmer falters and Jc comes back healthy can hu jack go back to him? Breaking that collar bone has had bigger impact then most want to acknowledge.
November 7th, 2011 at 10:51 am
“If JaCarson does not throw that pick to D. Moore we are up 2 scores game over …”
Your an idiot with an even dumber name!
Let me explain something to you WE could NOT stop Denver’s running game!
It doesn’t matter what we did offensively we gave up 38 points!
This is the NFL if you give up 38 points and 300 yards rushing expect to lose every time!
November 7th, 2011 at 10:52 am
791.Silverandblack666 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 10:48 am
Jason Campbell’s first game as a raider:
He threw for 180 yards in a 38-13 loss to Tenn 1 TD 1 INT
He was benched and Gradkowski won the following week 16-14 against the Rams.
If you want to compare Palmer to JC use JC’s first two starts not what he did after he was here for a while DUH!
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Just the Angel,I’ve been looking for. 666…I thought I told you to stop jixing my Raiders, trash talking Tebow.
November 7th, 2011 at 10:53 am
791.Silverandblack666 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 10:48 am
Jason Campbell’s first game as a raider:
He threw for 180 yards in a 38-13 loss to Tenn 1 TD 1 INT
He was benched and Gradkowski won the following week 16-14 against the Rams.
If you want to compare Palmer to JC use JC’s first two starts not what he did after he was here for a while DUH!
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But JaCarson is a PROBOWL QB and can make all the THROWS.LOL ! I don’t put the blame all on him I blame Hue Jax as well for thinking he has AARON Rodgers back there. RUN the BALL dum@sss…
November 7th, 2011 at 10:54 am
790.ghostraiders Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 10:47 am
If I knew ahead of time our O was going to score 24 points vs the tebow lead broncos… I would have said. .. we won hands down.!! .. Carson Palmer will continue to jell with wr. .. and I guess the Palmer detractors will continue complaining if were Not scoring over 35 points… incredible!!
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He keeps throwing a pick every quarter (he’s on pace for 38 picks) and you can bet your mobile home I’ll be complaing.
November 7th, 2011 at 10:54 am
“Since we’re comparing,”
JC had about 18 starts as our QB Palmer has had 2.
The defense and special teams failed us yesterday more so than our offense IMO.
November 7th, 2011 at 10:54 am
666 and Albert Bigelow, stand in line for a beat down for the jinxing of my Raiders.
November 7th, 2011 at 10:55 am
But if palmer falters and Jc comes back healthy can hu jack go back to him?
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No…The 2 picks given up makes him the defacto starter….Only way CP is not starting is if he leaves a game on a golf cart…
November 7th, 2011 at 10:55 am
“I blame Hue Jax as well for thinking he has AARON Rodgers back there. ”
That’s great and all but how often does an NFL team give up 300 yards on the ground!
Not very!
November 7th, 2011 at 10:56 am
Yes… 24 points aginst the Donks should have been a Win for us….I can’t even watch the NFl channel today or listen to Sirius NFL… I just can’t listen to it yet…
Our Defense is pitiful from top to bottom…Palmer may not have had to thrown so many passes had our defense not given Tebow so many extra gift plays…..
November 7th, 2011 at 10:56 am
the college option….
November 7th, 2011 at 10:56 am
“666 and Albert Bigelow, stand in line for a beat down for the jinxing of my Raiders.”
If you think you are man enough I am game.
They are my Raiders I was at the game….where were you?
November 7th, 2011 at 10:57 am
Debo.. you never liked Palmer. . Your still stuck on jamarcus.. so stfu!!!.. Jesus. . Do you blame any of this loss on the d and special teams.. you have to be a fool bro… Palmer is learning.. he will play better.. You guys are the worst. .. fair weather fans that don’t understand football. .. I assure the defense and st feel responsible for this loss…but we lost as a team… you guys blame Palmer because That’s all you.. idiots!!
November 7th, 2011 at 10:57 am
804.Silverandblack666 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 10:54 am
“Since we’re comparing,”
JC had about 18 starts as our QB Palmer has had 2.
The defense and special teams failed us yesterday more so than our offense IMO.
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IF JaCarson does not throw that INT when we were up 24-17 we win the game . We at least score a FG and are up by 2 scores.We run the ball and kill some clock and force Tebho to throw . We win fasho !
November 7th, 2011 at 10:57 am
RUN the BALL dum@sss…
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very true control the clock and you can beat anyone in the NFL if the d and special teams doesn’t collapse
November 7th, 2011 at 10:59 am
RaiderDebo Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 10:48 am
4.2 40 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 10:40 am
Debo, at least lay the blame where it belongs. The defense was pathetic. To insinuate in any way Palmer is culpable is irresponsible. He wasnt playing defense after it was gashed by the 60 yard run.
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Let me get this straight. You don’t think Palmer is culpable in any way?????
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Palmer threw three nice TD passes and well over 300 yards. Averaged 9.5 yards per attempt which, to put it in perspective, is about what runaway NFL MVP candidate Aaron Rodgers is averaging for the season.
He did throw two picks that hurt us. No doubt. The third he got hit on and the game was essentially over by then anyway.
Based on his performance, if we had won this game Palmer probably would’ve been the hero of the game and one of the top stories of the day in the NFL, INTs or not. But we lost. We lost because our defense gave up 300 yards rushing, we racked up another 150 in penalties and had a punt returned for a TD on us. Our defense allowed a QB who can’t throw to put up 31 points on us in one half of play.
Palmer’s INTs definitely hurt, but I thought his play was pretty incredible considering he’s had less than 3 full weeks with this team. This is about the time QBs get their first preseason game work, except in Palmer’s case, everyone else is in midseason form and midseason intensity. I was very impressed with what he was able to do out there yesterday.
November 7th, 2011 at 10:59 am
811.ghostraiders Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 10:57 am
Debo.. you never liked Palmer. . Your still stuck on jamarcus.. so stfu!!!.. Jesus. . Do you blame any of this loss on the d and special teams.. you have to be a fool bro… Palmer is learning.. he will play better.. You guys are the worst. .. fair weather fans that don’t understand football. .. I assure the defense and st feel responsible for this loss…but we lost as a team… you guys blame Palmer because That’s all you.. idiots!!
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Your right … I also blame Hue Jax for his sh!tty play calling . The only thing worse than the Defense was Hu Jax coaching …. A
November 7th, 2011 at 10:59 am
going forward how many other teams will get beat by college plays…
November 7th, 2011 at 11:01 am
“IF JaCarson does not throw that INT when we were up 24-17 we win the game .”
I don’t know what game you were watching maybe a game in your head.
We gave up 300 yards rushing yesterday what part of that do you find so hard to comprehend?
Please do us all a favor and find the last time an NFL team gave us 300 yards rushing an won!
November 7th, 2011 at 11:01 am
Go to pro football talk “hues honeymonn is over” exactly what I thought hues power went to his head and the players don’t believe he has earned it, seems they have tuned him out, and we know he has tuned boss and dhb onto the side for sure. I can see him out at the end of the year, guys we got a fraud for a coach.
November 7th, 2011 at 11:01 am
Fingers. .. Thanks for getting.. knuckle heads blame the qb when he scores 24.. incredible.. moronic.. defense was absolutely pathetic.. but it was Palmer’s fault we lost???.. Lmao. . Too funny!!
November 7th, 2011 at 11:01 am
# Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 10:51 am
Cuase for alarm for carson, or just rust? peep these numbers
carson palmer on 3rd down 2010
95-174 1023 yds 54.6 comp% 9 tds 7 ints 8 sacks 72.6 rating
carson palmer in the 4th quarter 2010
108-182 1223 yds 59.3 comp% 9 td 8 ints 12 sacks 77.7 rating
carson palmer on 3rd down 2011
5-13 51 yds 38.5 comp% 1 td 1 int 1 sack 44.1 rating
carson palmer in the 4th quarter 2011
11-26 168 yds 42.3 comp % 0 tds 4 ints 1 sack 24.7 rating
as you can see this isnt very good. Just sp we can appreciate the value of clutch qb play lest take a look at Jc’s numbers. it will give us a feel for why losing our qb is the biggest reason for the recent struggles, and disprove the notion that palmer is some magic bullet instant upgrade.
Jc on 3rd down 2010
54-102 756 yds 52.9 comp% 6 tds 2 ints 14 sacks 88.5 rating
( on 4th down he was 5-6 1 td 0 picks for a ridiculous 145.1 rating)
Jc in the 4th quarter 2010
59-94 756 yds 6.8 comp% 4 tds 1 int 5 sacks 97.7 rating
in overtime 1-1 47 yds 118. rating
Jc on 3rd down 2011
27-48 303 yds 56.3 comp % 2tds 0 ints 1 sack 89.2 rating
Jc in the 4th quarter 2011
24-41 404 yds 58.5 comp % 4 tds 2 ints 0 sack 104.1 rating
This clearly illustrates that Jc was money in the clutch and palmer has big shoes to fill. lets hope he can at the least come close.
This also disproves the myth of the instant upgrade theory as jc was clearly better in critical situations.
But if palmer falters and Jc comes back healthy can hu jack go back to him? Breaking that collar bone has had bigger impact then most want to acknowledge.
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Repost… because this is just damn good. we are looking at this year and last year. this way the comparison is far more valid, yet still skewed.
keep in mind carson posted these numbers in 201 with a star laden veteran wr group and in the offense he has been running for years. Jc posted his numbers with struggling young wr group, and a new offense for a new team.
I think palmer can be decent & i hope he will be but lets not try to downplay the stellar play from our fallen leader JC, and what it meant to putting wins on the board.
November 7th, 2011 at 11:02 am
811.ghostraiders Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 10:57 am
Debo.. you never liked Palmer. . Your still stuck on jamarcus.. so stfu!!!.. Jesus. . Do you blame any of this loss on the d and special teams.. you have to be a fool bro… Palmer is learning.. he will play better.. You guys are the worst. .. fair weather fans that don’t understand football. .. I assure the defense and st feel responsible for this loss…but we lost as a team… you guys blame Palmer because That’s all you.. idiots!!
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Palmer is learning??????? What the fck is he learning???? I’ve never played QB and even I know you don’t throw high over the middle. The guy is an 8-year vet. If he’s still “learning”, this team is in deep sht!!
November 7th, 2011 at 11:03 am
666…I knew you wouldn’t have any words to say. I’ll take it as though you learned your lesson. Trash talking a player because of their beliefs is very unwise and unnecessary.
November 7th, 2011 at 11:03 am
807.Silverandblack666 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 10:55 am
“I blame Hue Jax as well for thinking he has AARON Rodgers back there. ”
That’s great and all but how often does an NFL team give up 300 yards on the ground!
Not very!
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Feels like our team gives up 300 every other game …
November 7th, 2011 at 11:04 am
But if palmer falters and Jc comes back healthy can hu jack go back to him?
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No…The 2 picks given up makes him the defacto starter….Only way CP is not starting is if he leaves a game on a golf cart…
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Like I said no way JC comes back…get behind Palmer because JC is gone…
November 7th, 2011 at 11:05 am
Palmer is learning??????? What the fck is he learning???? I’ve never played QB and even I know you don’t throw high over the middle. The guy is an 8-year vet. If he’s still “learning”, this team is in deep sht!!
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the ball to DMO was an overthrow plain and simple…Had nothing to do with learning curve. Just a bad throw.
November 7th, 2011 at 11:05 am
PFT:
Punctuating the quietly growing sense of resentment was a team meeting from Saturday night in which Jackson warned players that he’s already looking at free agents and that he won’t hesitate to cut current members of the team and replace them. Whatever Jackson did to push the right buttons before the game against the Broncos didn’t work; Oakland lost by 14 points to a team that extensively used the kind of college-style read-option offense that isn’t supposed to work at the NFL level.
Winning, as we’ve seen elsewhere, can quickly quiet the complainers. Jackson gets a chance to get things under control come Thursday night, when the Raiders travel to San Diego for a game against the Chargers.
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So scholarship guys are scared?
Gotcha.
November 7th, 2011 at 11:05 am
The only reason we would have won that game with JC is because of the game plan that would have come along with him. That would be to run the ball 40 times.
Which had we run the ball 40 times we would have won with Palmer as well.
That is 2 games in a row Bush is getting 5 plus yards a carry and we come out and start throwing all over the place.
November 7th, 2011 at 11:05 am
It’s this kind of delusional thinking I don’t understand. That you felt you might be watching a team capable of winning its division, okay…but a Super Bowl contender?
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we beat NYJ and the texans in houston are you telling me these teams don’t have a chance to make some noise in the playoffs? Once you’re in the playoffs anything can happen ask last years Seahawks or last years GB team that snuck into the playoffs. You might be more interested in the halftime show and the commercials than the actual football game
November 7th, 2011 at 11:05 am
Good post Chris. … I hope the Palmer detractors read this!!
November 7th, 2011 at 11:05 am
While we’re on the subject of 38 points being the reason for the loss – anyone else notice the Green Bay game yesterday?
The point is, every season you can find yourself in a shootout, even when you have a good defense. You have to be able to respond on offense. The Raiders offense could not respond after midway through the third quarter.
It still was a winnable game despite terrible defense and special teams. But you have to make plays.
November 7th, 2011 at 11:06 am
810.Silverandblack666 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 10:56 am
“666 and Albert Bigelow, stand in line for a beat down for the jinxing of my Raiders.”
If you think you are man enough I am game.
They are my Raiders I was at the game….where were you?
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I know I’m Man enough! I’m in Pennsylvania
November 7th, 2011 at 11:06 am
I take my football seriously. I only wish my team would do the same thing. Somehow, they always find a way to play down to the level of their opponents. We should have slaughtered Denver. Instead, we end up with one of the poorest defensive showings of the year. we are better than that. It’s time we start playing up to our level of ability.
November 7th, 2011 at 11:06 am
I’m in a bad mood to begin with. I’m sane enough to say anybody that blames the loss on Palmer or the offense is ignorant about the Raiders or the NFL! Semour and Kelly better vent their anger out on the field in about 78 hours and bury Rivers!!!
November 7th, 2011 at 11:06 am
Well,I see the bigots are out in full force this morning.
November 7th, 2011 at 11:07 am
But a shootout to college playcalling?
Sorry, thats on the defense buddy.
November 7th, 2011 at 11:07 am
Chuck B was not the Raiders first choice at DC and it shows. Jets secondary coach Dennis Thurman was and Rex denied the Raiders permission to interview him for the job. Chuck is out next year and the players know it. They are not responding to him at all. For all of those McClain haters out there this is what life without a real MLB looks like.
memo to Chuck B – when you are unemployed next year (from my keyboard to gods ears) you will have time to read this:
http://smartfootball.com/defending-spread/defending-the-zone-read-athleticism-and-the-scrape-exchange
November 7th, 2011 at 11:07 am
Like I said no way JC comes back…get behind Palmer because JC is gone…
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no schit we still trying to use stats to prove JC is better? well he’s never playing a down again for the Raiders so consider him the enemy next year might as well cheer for Carson
November 7th, 2011 at 11:08 am
He threw for 3 tds and people want to gripe!! LOL… the defense gives up all those yards and the blame goes to the qb…. the good thing is.. its only a few who are misguided.. .. nit the majority on here who get it!,
November 7th, 2011 at 11:09 am
824.Thec07 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 11:04 am
But if palmer falters and Jc comes back healthy can hu jack go back to him?
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No…The 2 picks given up makes him the defacto starter….Only way CP is not starting is if he leaves a game on a golf cart…
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Like I said no way JC comes back…get behind Palmer because JC is gone…
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All I want is for someone to beat the FN Super CHOKERS. I can’t even enjoy their losses this year because we keep losing too . It is pissing me off! If we don’t win thursday , I am going to go APE Sh!t . Mcfadden BEAST MODE ASAP PLEASE !!!!!!!!! I want Carson to succeed very badly just as I want the Raiders to WIN !
November 7th, 2011 at 11:10 am
Goldie7 just exactly what is your point?
Nobody in Raiderland likes Teblow did you hear the chants yesterday!
I can find 100 reasons to hate Teblow other than his religion.
Like I have said 100 times in here: Women in the lingerie league have better throwing mechanics than your bible thumper Teblow does!
November 7th, 2011 at 11:10 am
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/07/hues-honeymoon-is-over/
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A little harsh, but I’m fine with it. Loved this guy until he made the Palmer deal. If Palmer comes to us for a couple of seconds or something like that, I’d have been on board. But he got fleeced by Brown and by paying that much he elevated Palmers status in the eyes of a lot of you sheep fans. And he also slapped JC in the face which can’t make a lot of guys on the team happy. Loved it when he got hired because he gets Xs and Os unlike the idiot offensive staff before him, but he’s made is own bed with Palmer. We’ll have to see if he can come out smelling like a rose.
November 7th, 2011 at 11:10 am
Chris you are right about Palmer, but hue must get some blame here he is not doubt being tuned out by the players, and tell me a coach that pulls 2 of his better offensive weapons, unheard of sorry, yes the defense sucked but hue gets some blame, I won’t wast te anymore time than I have on chuck b he is an embarrassment.
November 7th, 2011 at 11:11 am
830.RaidingTexas Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 11:05 am
While we’re on the subject of 38 points being the reason for the loss – anyone else notice the Green Bay game yesterday?
The point is, every season you can find yourself in a shootout, even when you have a good defense. You have to be able to respond on offense. The Raiders offense could not respond after midway through the third quarter.
It still was a winnable game despite terrible defense and special teams. But you have to make plays.
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Absolutely RT…our Offense needed to keep scoring regardless of our D lack of play. Our O seemed inept to respond back to the Donkeys.
November 7th, 2011 at 11:11 am
Yea.. next year when jc is on the Denver broncos. .please go root for him over there.. you can havem!! .. no way he’s better than Palmer!!
November 7th, 2011 at 11:11 am
# inonewordraider Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 11:07 am
Like I said no way JC comes back…get behind Palmer because JC is gone…
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no schit we still trying to use stats to prove JC is better?
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no the stats are only there to prove that the drop off in qb play is what has derailed the team for the past two weeks. Until carson can come close to the standard set by JC we are toast
November 7th, 2011 at 11:11 am
All I want is for someone to beat the FN Super CHOKERS. I can’t even enjoy their losses this year because we keep losing too . It is pissing me off! If we don’t win thursday , I am going to go APE Sh!t . Mcfadden BEAST MODE ASAP PLEASE !!!!!!!!! I want Carson to succeed very badly just as I want the Raiders to WIN !
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We are in the same boat…I HATE the chargrs more than any other team in the NFL….
November 7th, 2011 at 11:12 am
Get ready for the “does Hue bring OchoCinco in” when the Pats release him
November 7th, 2011 at 11:12 am
Yeah. really happy with Palmer. And wish JC keeps lighting the league on fire with his play next year in SEA, MIA, or wherever he goes and stand as back-up.
November 7th, 2011 at 11:13 am
Anybody Blaming Palmer is insane… Yes he threw a pass over the middle to high and it was picked off ..But the desperation should not have been there…our Defense couldn’t hold a lead and gave Tebow too many ” extra ” plays….Palmer should have been handing the ball off to Bush or short dumpoff passes…. But the defense( ours) made that impossible….
November 7th, 2011 at 11:13 am
For the record there arent very many palmer detractors and certainly no palmer haters here often. this board jumped for joy when he was signed and anointed him the best qb since gannon before ha ever took a snap.
what palmer haters?
November 7th, 2011 at 11:13 am
4 words for the loss-Chuck Bresnahan,Hue Jackson.
November 7th, 2011 at 11:14 am
“I know I’m Man enough! I’m in Pennsylvania”
Wow big man making threats from 2,000 miles away!
Why are Jesus freaks the first to lose their temper and start an internet fight I thought you people were supposed to set an example?
November 7th, 2011 at 11:14 am
HuJack needs to let Saunders start calling the offensive plays and focus his(HueJack’s) efforts on running the defense. It’s is obvious that Bresnahan is incapable of running a consistent defensive effort every week. HueJack needs to be all over Bresnahan on a 24/7/365 basis. There was a reason he was in the UFL. He should be sent back in that direction. Bresnahan talks a good game but real play is a different issue.
November 7th, 2011 at 11:14 am
was Barksdale starting at RT? man, the left end was putting major pressure on Palmer. Hue, Help the kid out!
November 7th, 2011 at 11:14 am
I think Chuck B was a better DC when all he had to do was call MAN 2 MAN… lOL
November 7th, 2011 at 11:14 am
AFC’s still wide open. Not for us if the D plays like it did yesterday and probably not if we don’t get McFadden back at full strength, but who is even the premiere team in the AFC right now? Baltimore? Got trounced by Tennessee and were lucky to beat Arizona.
I know it’s hard to hear after the way we looked yesterday, because if that’s how we play going forward then obviously we’re not going anywhere. But, if we get DMac back at full strength. The defense gets its stuff together. And Palmer keeps slinging it like he did yesterday while at least cutting down on the picks … I still like our chances. Three big ifs. But none are that hard to see happening either. They’re almost likely, if you think about it.
November 7th, 2011 at 11:15 am
Thec07 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 11:11 am
All I want is for someone to beat the FN Super CHOKERS. I can’t even enjoy their losses this year because we keep losing too . It is pissing me off! If we don’t win thursday , I am going to go APE Sh!t . Mcfadden BEAST MODE ASAP PLEASE !!!!!!!!! I want Carson to succeed very badly just as I want the Raiders to WIN !
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We are in the same boat…I HATE the chargrs more than any other team in the NFL….
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hating the Chargers more than any team..does that speak to your age? or location? Not saying that in a neg way… Sounds like you are young then..?
November 7th, 2011 at 11:16 am
Lets not talk about comparing ourselves with greenbay..OK?? Theres a reason why their Superbowl champions… there’s no team as good as them… but eventually their poor defense will catch up with them as well..
November 7th, 2011 at 11:16 am
hating the Chargers more than any team..does that speak to your age? or location? Not saying that in a neg way… Sounds like you are young then..?
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Location, been a Raider since the 1970….
November 7th, 2011 at 11:16 am
850.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 11:13 am
For the record there arent very many palmer detractors and certainly no palmer haters here often. this board jumped for joy when he was signed and anointed him the best qb since gannon before ha ever took a snap.
what palmer haters?
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I’d hate on any QB who was averaging 3 INTS a game and is the opposite of clutch in the 4th quarter…
November 7th, 2011 at 11:16 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 11:14 am
“I know I’m Man enough! I’m in Pennsylvania”
Wow big man making threats from 2,000 miles away!
Why are Jesus freaks the first to lose their temper and start an internet fight I thought you people were supposed to set an example?
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As a Jesus Freak, I dont agree with that statement. Blanket statements about ‘people’ is so 1980’s brotha.
November 7th, 2011 at 11:16 am
I can’t stand the Chargers. Hue better quit the BS and get this team ready to win. McFadden prob won’t play in my opinion.
November 7th, 2011 at 11:16 am
Just getting caught up with yall since the epic letdown…
Stupid penalties + stupid offensive play calling + stupid defensive strategies = loss to the donkeys
with a QB who still is getting up to speed, why in the hell didnt they RUN THE DAMN BALL????
Cmon, Hue…. Its not f@cking brain surgery!!!
Where in the hell was the backers and secondary?? Safeties, shouldnt you be the deepest guy on the field, hence the term SAFETY?!?!?!
TERRIBLE showing yesterday… Before that I thought we were relevant again…. Now Im not so sure…
November 7th, 2011 at 11:17 am
It is pretty funny that the int over the middle happened because it was tipped by Moore.For the last 2 years when a ball was thrown like that to DHB and he didn’t catch it,he was crucified.
November 7th, 2011 at 11:17 am
Thec07 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 11:16 am
hating the Chargers more than any team..does that speak to your age? or location? Not saying that in a neg way… Sounds like you are young then..?
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Location, been a Raider since the 1970….
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Copy that.
November 7th, 2011 at 11:17 am
# ghostraiders Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 11:16 am
Lets not talk about comparing ourselves with greenbay..OK?? Theres a reason why their Superbowl champions… there’s no team as good as them… but eventually their poor defense will catch up with them as well..
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it starts with the qb play, we simply haven’t had quality qb play the last two weeks and it is why we lost to inferior teams.
November 7th, 2011 at 11:18 am
Chuck B isn’t all to blame, the players could actually go out and put in work and earn their paychecks. Not just roll over like dogs and let the donkey’s do whatever they want on the ground.
Our D has no heart and Kelly and Seymour don’t help that any. Obviously I miss the hell out of Shonasty right about now.
November 7th, 2011 at 11:19 am
Cmon, Hue…. Its not f@cking brain surgery!!!
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Hue is over thinking too much…
Hue is also a tinkerer…He is going to fck up what little chemistry is left…He needs to win on thursday
November 7th, 2011 at 11:19 am
“As a Jesus Freak, I dont agree with that statement. Blanket statements about ‘people’ is so 1980’s brotha.”
And religion is so 1950’s!
We live in the information age get on board already!
November 7th, 2011 at 11:20 am
them… but eventually their poor defense will catch up with them as well..
859.Thec07 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 11:16 am
hating the Chargers more than any team..does that speak to your age? or location? Not saying that in a neg way… Sounds like you are young then..?
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Location, been a Raider since the 1970….
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LOcation … Live in SD and hate anything CHokers. They have the g@yest fans ever who act like RAIDER wannabes. They act hard but when we come to town they are nowhere to be seen and sell there tickets. Plus Rivers is a douche … LOL
November 7th, 2011 at 11:20 am
Everybody that is still crying, f*ck Hue… Get it…
November 7th, 2011 at 11:20 am
# Jesus Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 11:16 am
850.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 11:13 am
For the record there arent very many palmer detractors and certainly no palmer haters here often. this board jumped for joy when he was signed and anointed him the best qb since gannon before ha ever took a snap.
what palmer haters?
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I’d hate on any QB who was averaging 3 INTS a game and is the opposite of clutch in the 4th quarter…
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I feel you 100 % i will wait a few more games before writing off plamer, but i will admit this does appear to be a continuation of a downward trend rather than a blip or hiccup or rust. i want to give the new guy a clean slate but he is off to a horrendous start
November 7th, 2011 at 11:21 am
We lose close Thursday and our season is on the hinges.
We get blown out Thursday, our season is over and blackouts every week will begin.
November 7th, 2011 at 11:21 am
Chris… if our d played as well as They played vs the chiefs. .we win this game easy.. I really do think they overlooked tebow. . Its also obvious to me now That there will only be 1 team going to the playoffs outta the afc west… its not a good division. .. we either win the division or go home.. pretty sure no wild card comming outta here!!
November 7th, 2011 at 11:21 am
I grew up in the bay, moved the family in 96 to SD for business opportunities…Have grown to hate the chargers… the fans, the blogs, the colors, the theme song, the announcers, the radio guys, the ball guy, the ticket handler , the Q…most of all rivers….
November 7th, 2011 at 11:21 am
Per Florio on PFT…
“Punctuating the quietly growing sense of resentment was a team meeting from Saturday night in which Jackson warned players that he’s already looking at free agents and that he won’t hesitate to cut current members of the team and replace them. Whatever Jackson did to push the right buttons before the game against the Broncos didn’t work; Oakland lost by 14 points to a team that extensively used the kind of college-style read-option offense that isn’t supposed to work at the NFL level.”
The kind of crap play I saw on the field yesterday always seems to come when the players have started tuning out the coaches and don’t care anymore…
The huckster needs to make a statement by:
1) Firing Bresnahan. Plug in Woodson or anyone else.
2) Release some of the marginal players who aren’t holding up their end of the log. You can get bad play from anyone. Make them accountable for their jobs.
3) Play the players that give the team the best chance of winning. Forget the buddy system.
4) Stop coddling players with words of praise that they’re making progress. If they’re not making the plays, tell them that.
All BS needs to stop. Everyone sees through it and it’s not working.
Less political double-talk, more football coaching.
This team is on a fast track to a 7-9 season or worse. The huckster may find himself unemployed if doesn’t put his ego in check and do the job.
Remember…. He wasn’t exactly a hot commodity when Al gave him a shot.
November 7th, 2011 at 11:21 am
Raider in Pa… I hear ya… I don’t know what we have anymore… Not clue…. We can look so good, then play the Donks and just stink up the place….. We shouldn’t be that bad…we should have been able to win a game without McFadden… It’s a team…. And the defense let the team down
November 7th, 2011 at 11:21 am
Also if the raiders dont win @SD and @MINN, sell-out streak is over.
November 7th, 2011 at 11:22 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 11:19 am
“As a Jesus Freak, I dont agree with that statement. Blanket statements about ‘people’ is so 1980’s brotha.”
And religion is so 1950’s!
We live in the information age get on board already!
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I agree, religion sucks. Jesus Christ doesnt. We are in the information age, you seem to not have all of it on this topic.
November 7th, 2011 at 11:23 am
Last year we were undefeated in division.While he was HC,we never lost to the donkeys.Does that mean Cable was a better HC than HJ?What you say to that Mistic?
November 7th, 2011 at 11:23 am
Bu
November 7th, 2011 at 11:23 am
And I’ll be shocked if there’s another sellout this year.You can’t ask fans to pony up hard earned cash for what they’ve been doing on the field.
November 7th, 2011 at 11:23 am
Palmers not the problem – the problem is in two areas
1. WR Coaching – we started the season with a QB that was given half field reads. As soon as the WR’s read the defense they started half-a$$ing routes when they saw JC look away from them. Don’t beleive me? CP’s pick vs KC, go back and watch Murphy run that pattern. He stops on the cut and is almost surprised the ball is heading his way. The WR’s are not used to a QB that will make the throws that CP is willing to make. Over the bye week Sanjay Lal should have explained that they need to be ready on every play becuase CP will take chances that Captain Checkdown would never think about. Also what day is Lal going to coach up his WR’s to fight for the ball on those 9 routes???? WTF?!?!?
2. Chuck B not having his team ready for a zone read from Tim Tebow? Really???? I guess this week he will have that deer in a headlight look again when Rivers wants to go to Gates. And God help up if the Chargers go no-huddle. That confused look on Chucks face says it all.
November 7th, 2011 at 11:24 am
Jesus Christ <—–Who is he???
November 7th, 2011 at 11:25 am
875.Thec07 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 11:21 am
I grew up in the bay, moved the family in 96 to SD for business opportunities…Have grown to hate the chargers… the fans, the blogs, the colors, the theme song, the announcers, the radio guys, the ball guy, the ticket handler , the Q…most of all rivers….
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Same for me … I lived in SJ all my life and moved down for my family and work in 2001. The radio guys are the worst ever Billy Gay and the other homo is the most annoying homer announcers in the world .Every play the Chokers make if the gretest play in all of football… OMG !
November 7th, 2011 at 11:25 am
Thec07… I hear ya about the chemistry bro..
Pi$$es me off that Housh comes in and thinks everybody bows down to him… Step off Housh, these young guns were doing a good job with no real veteran guidance before you got here… Youre not the second coming of Christ…
November 7th, 2011 at 11:26 am
Until carson can come close to the standard set by JC we are toast
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Jc was a great qb for us because he didn’t throw picks and I’d argue because he wasn’t in the discussion for best qb in the league we focused more on the ground game whereas it looks like Hue is trying to throw more with Carson than he did w/ JC. But I saw some more spectacular throws in Carsons first start than I’ve seen in any game JC has started for us except for maybe the Buff game. If Carson can minimize the turnovers I believe he’s an upgrade over JC but it’s a tall task because JC had a lot more time in this system with these players. Let’s get behind our qb
November 7th, 2011 at 11:26 am
There are simply 9 reasons why we have lost these 2 games, all of the other deficiencies could have been overcome against those bad teams. 9 INTERCEPTIONS the last 2 games, THATS IT!!!
November 7th, 2011 at 11:27 am
Thec07 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 11:24 am
Jesus Christ <—–Who is he???
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Mocking. Cute.
November 7th, 2011 at 11:27 am
Jesus Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 11:25 am
875.Thec07 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 11:21 am
I grew up in the bay, moved the family in 96 to SD for business opportunities…Have grown to hate the chargers… the fans, the blogs, the colors, the theme song, the announcers, the radio guys, the ball guy, the ticket handler , the Q…most of all rivers….
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Same for me … I lived in SJ all my life and moved down for my family and work in 2001. The radio guys are the worst ever Billy Gay and the other homo is the most annoying homer announcers in the world .Every play the Chokers make if the gretest play in all of football… OMG !
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hacksaw cheese dic, billy gay, and scott phaglan
all can go fck offf….
November 7th, 2011 at 11:27 am
So Chuck and Hue (chuckhue), what’s the plan for SD? Not more of the same we hope.
November 7th, 2011 at 11:28 am
Anywho.
Im over the Denver loss.
Chargers game is biggest game of the year now.
November 7th, 2011 at 11:29 am
DeuceDeuce
I don’t want to argue with you over religion right now I am really upset about this loss!
November 7th, 2011 at 11:29 am
Ghostraiders Says:
Yea.. next year when jc is on the Denver broncos. .please go root for him over there
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Well, some people think JC is already on the Denver Broncos. Have you heard the news? He is risen.
November 7th, 2011 at 11:29 am
840.Silverandblack666 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 11:10 am
Goldie7 just exactly what is your point?
Nobody in Raiderland likes Teblow did you hear the chants yesterday!
I can find 100 reasons to hate Teblow other than his religion.
Like I have said 100 times in here: Women in the lingerie league have better throwing mechanics than your bible thumper Teblow does!
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My point is. You were making comments after comments about how bad of a QB Tebow is. True….Tebow may not have the best mechanics but so freaking what.
I kept saying Tebow is a winner at heart so don’t jinx the Raiders by saying over and over about his bad mechanics and the Raiders would have an easy victory over the Donkeys because of Tebow. Ok…I understand you don’t like Tebow because of his style of play but you don’t have to post about disliking him over and over again. With all your trash talking you made Tebow a winner. BTW….you did make comments about his Chritianity. You and others needed to give your opinion about Tebow and leave it at that….instead of the constant bashing. Just saying.
November 7th, 2011 at 11:30 am
DeuceDeuce Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 11:27 am
Thec07 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 11:24 am
Jesus Christ <—–Who is he???
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Mocking. Cute.
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Not mocking you seriously who is Jesus Christ?
November 7th, 2011 at 11:31 am
oh yeah i forgot fck rivers…. i watch them play every game to root for his demise..
He is playing like marcus allen banged his wife…
November 7th, 2011 at 11:31 am
hacksaw cheese dic, billy gay, and scott phaglan
all can go fck offf….
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Forgot about hacksaw … I wish I could shank him in the gut 3 times …
November 7th, 2011 at 11:31 am
Lefty12 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 11:06 am
Well,I see the bigots are out in full force this morning.
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The Propaganda machine is in full effect right now.
November 7th, 2011 at 11:32 am
this article is interesting
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/07/hues-honeymoon-is-over/
However i think the issue has to do with the fact that the team lost its leader jason campbell. The team followed his lead and seems lost with out him. I dont think hu accounted for the affect that discarding his qb and bringing in outsiders would have in the locker room. The trust and good will that was built through their common sacrafice and facing adversity together was shattered shorlty after jc’s collar bone did the same.
madden said wiinning is a great deoderant, we havnt won the last two weeks. We lost to bad teams that we should beat,& the qb play was terrible. The new guys havnt gelled and now according to this article hu jack is threatening players?
the leaders on offense have been jc dhb and dmac, all 3 were missing yesterday. who is the gu that will restore the professionalism to the locker room? Players are mouthing off, and finger pointing, this after we had a leader that taught us to be better than that, through example.
We might be in trouble here, did hu jack turn us into the bungles? I like my 4-2 raiders much much better
November 7th, 2011 at 11:33 am
For all complaining about the need to run the ball more. By my count we dropped back for 37 pass plays (35 attempts + 2 sacks) and tried 25 runs. Prior to Denver taking the lead with about 5 minutes left and forcing us to pass, we had 24 pass plays and 25 running plays.
Having said that I do think we should’ve gotten Taiwan Jones at least 10 touches on offense yesterday. I think he had 1.
November 7th, 2011 at 11:33 am
Forgot about hacksaw … I wish I could shank him in the gut 3 times …
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ROFLMAO….oh and fck rivers….
November 7th, 2011 at 11:33 am
I agree Fingers, we should be able to rotate RBs and STILL have a killer running game. I was DYING for a little swing pass or screen to Jones. Just to see what he can do in space. Never happened…
November 7th, 2011 at 11:33 am
For me the Raiders are back to ” you gotta show me” mode…. I no longer have any faith in our entire defense…..right now I’m not confident the Raiders can beat anybody…. It’s start over time….i may come back around in a few days but this loss actually makes me ill…I bleed silver and Black… The Raiders are a huge part of our family .. I was born and raised in the eastbay… And I despise the Donks as well as the chefs and chokers.. This ones painful… Especially the amount of trash talk I laidout to Donk fans…
November 7th, 2011 at 11:35 am
Chris In NY… thats what I wanted all afternoon… I would have kept rotating Bush and Jones on every drive… Thats what they SHOULD be doing with McFadden and Bush too…
November 7th, 2011 at 11:35 am
We might be in trouble here, did hu jack turn us into the bungles? I like my 4-2 raiders much much better
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CODE BLACK and ORANGE ???? Stupid Hu JAx ! Al please send a sign from above …
November 7th, 2011 at 11:35 am
“With all your trash talking you made Tebow a winner.”
Wow I did that myself!
I must have some real super powers!
So blocking, tackling and TeBlow’s play had nothing to do with it? It was all me and my trash talking that made Teblow a star yesterday.
I better get a call from his agent!!
November 7th, 2011 at 11:35 am
Its pretty obvious. .. if we don’t turn this around vs the chargers. . Were in deep trouble… Raiders blew a great opportunity to take sole possession of first place!! Like I said. .this division is not good at all… the most pathetic part if this is the fact the broncos are only 1 game behind first place… LOL.. that’s bad!!
November 7th, 2011 at 11:35 am
Injuries Injuries Injuries..
Penalties Panalties Penalties…
Well at least Ford got back to pre-injury form.
But what happened to the Special Teams?
November 7th, 2011 at 11:36 am
Not mocking you seriously who is Jesus Christ?
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Is that his name?
November 7th, 2011 at 11:36 am
DT42 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 11:23 am
Palmers not the problem – the problem is in two areas
1. WR Coaching – we started the season with a QB that was given half field reads.
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that is completely false. you have nothing to back up this wildly off base claim. Jc has never been instructed to read half the field in his entire nfl career.
What proof do you have the game film shows jc reading the entire field and hitting passes in all areas of the field.
cmon your just making stuff up now.
November 7th, 2011 at 11:37 am
Our faith to the playoffs are in DMAC’s feet,arms, hands and HEALTH.
We need a healthy DMAC. Our Offense is built around him. Hue has forgotten our identity.
Run first. Pass second.
November 7th, 2011 at 11:37 am
The 4 wins we had were full of holes but we all ignored it.
vs Denver – It was awful for both teams and we lost because Denver was more sorry than us on that day.
vs Jets – They were leading 17 – 7 and we had 4 consecutive 3 and outs until DMAC just litteraly took over beginning with that 70 yder.
vs Houston – We should have lost this game. Only Jano and the ghost of Al saved the day. Heck we only had 10 men on the field for the final play.
vs Cleveland – It took a fake fg to win this game.
Really we are who we are. Our D has ranked near the bottom of the league since day 1 and nothing has changed.
November 7th, 2011 at 11:38 am
ROFLMAO….oh and fck rivers….
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Thats why I’m so pissed . Rivers is having the worst season of his career and I can’t enjoy it because we ain’t winning. We should be leading the division by 2 games. Hopefully we win more games and he continues to suck b@lls…
November 7th, 2011 at 11:38 am
Lefty12 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 11:23 am
Last year we were undefeated in division.While he was HC,we never lost to the donkeys.Does that mean Cable was a better HC than HJ?What you say to that Mistic?
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No, it doesn’t. The propaganda only applies to Campbell.
November 7th, 2011 at 11:38 am
Commitment to Inconsistency.
November 7th, 2011 at 11:39 am
esus Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 11:38 am
ROFLMAO….oh and fck rivers….
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Thats why I’m so pissed . Rivers is having the worst season of his career and I can’t enjoy it because we ain’t winning. We should be leading the division by 2 games. Hopefully we win more games and he continues to suck b@lls…
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Something is up with rivers…his new child may be by some other dude, he is clearly not playing with the same mind deck he had in the past…Someone bagged his broad…
November 7th, 2011 at 11:40 am
# aig-raiders Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 11:37 am
The 4 wins we had were full of holes but we all ignored it.
vs Denver – It was awful for both teams and we lost because Denver was more sorry than us on that day.
vs Jets – They were leading 17 – 7 and we had 4 consecutive 3 and outs until DMAC just litteraly took over beginning with that 70 yder.
vs Houston – We should have lost this game. Only Jano and the ghost of Al saved the day. Heck we only had 10 men on the field for the final play.
vs Cleveland – It took a fake fg to win this game.
Really we are who we are. Our D has ranked near the bottom of the league since day 1 and nothing has changed.
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the defense has been up and down but our offense was good enough to over come it. This hasn’t been the case since losing our qb. perhaps palmer can improve and try to catch up with what jc was doing for us.
November 7th, 2011 at 11:40 am
Wow we got beat by Tebow running the option.
LMAO!!!! We suck!
He should have run the Wing T and they still would have beat this unorganized sorry no heart, no covering defense.
Playoffs? What the %$#!!!!
November 7th, 2011 at 11:41 am
Atleast no one can blame al davis anymore for that horrible defense!! …
November 7th, 2011 at 11:41 am
Aig..true… It wasn’t a solid 4 wins by any means…the Raiders tried like hell to lose the first Donk game…. But the Donks refused the gift the Raiders tried to give them… Same with the Texans … And Browns…
November 7th, 2011 at 11:41 am
The Big Banana Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 11:38 am
Lefty12 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 11:23 am
Last year we were undefeated in division.While he was HC,we never lost to the donkeys.Does that mean Cable was a better HC than HJ?What you say to that Mistic?
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No, it doesn’t. The propaganda only applies to Campbell.
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My point exactly.
November 7th, 2011 at 11:41 am
CJ Legend 34 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 11:40 am
Wow we got beat by Tebow running the option.
LMAO!!!! We suck!
He should have run the Wing T and they still would have beat this unorganized sorry no heart, no covering defense.
Playoffs? What the %$#!!!!
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the college fckin option…
November 7th, 2011 at 11:42 am
# The Big Banana Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 11:38 am
Lefty12 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 11:23 am
Last year we were undefeated in division.While he was HC,we never lost to the donkeys.Does that mean Cable was a better HC than HJ?What you say to that Mistic?
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No, it doesn’t. The propaganda only applies to Campbell.
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how did you guys get to cable he isnt a raider, and has no impact on why we are losing now. the qb does though
November 7th, 2011 at 11:42 am
Enough b!tching from me… No matter how bad we stink it up, I bleed Silver & Black!!… Have the tat that states that as well..
I hope we play a little smarter (Seymore & Curry) and rip Rivers’ head off Thurday!!
GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!
November 7th, 2011 at 11:42 am
But what happened to the Special Teams?
910.Thec07 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 11:36 am
Not mocking you seriously who is Jesus Christ?
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Is that his name?
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Tim Teblow = Jesus CHrist …. LOL
November 7th, 2011 at 11:42 am
If your going to fire Chuck for cause you have to fire Hue also. Both are FK’ng up! Hue is FK’ng up the roster & the offense. Chuck is only FK’ng up the Def.
Only…lol
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So you think a 24pt lead with a QB on 2 weeks of practice is not enough for a win? Please, he was conservative. He punted on a 4th and 1, putting it on the defense to get the ball back, instead they gave the DONKEYS the last touchdown. Defense was out of position all day long because of the scheme. Put 3 linebackers out there, bring up the safety and game is over. Tebow now has to beat you with his arm
November 7th, 2011 at 11:42 am
Bad afternoon…
November 7th, 2011 at 11:43 am
Tim Teblow = Jesus CHrist …. LOL
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ROFLMAO…..
November 7th, 2011 at 11:43 am
Tim Teblow = Jesus CHrist
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Hence the term Tebowing…He is praying to himself…
November 7th, 2011 at 11:43 am
Hopefully there are enough free agents this summer to revamp our D Line because the draft is already out the window. Kelly needs to go immediately and Seymour hasn’t helped us much this year at all.
The D as a whole, should be ashamed of themselves.
November 7th, 2011 at 11:44 am
924.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 11:42 am
# The Big Banana Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 11:38 am
Lefty12 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 11:23 am
Last year we were undefeated in division.While he was HC,we never lost to the donkeys.Does that mean Cable was a better HC than HJ?What you say to that Mistic?
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No, it doesn’t. The propaganda only applies to Campbell.
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how did you guys get to cable he isnt a raider, and has no impact on why we are losing now. the qb does though
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Rather have Cable than the Bengals Reloaded …
November 7th, 2011 at 11:44 am
“But what happened to the Special Teams?”
Derick Hagan was our gunner and a damn good one.
Did you see Taiwan Jones chasing Eddie Royal down the field on that put return?
Can someone please explain to me how Taiwan Jones (our fastest player) could not catch Royal?
November 7th, 2011 at 11:44 am
LOL….666 You are outrageous dude! Why in the heck would I threatened you on a Raider Blog? I’m not nor was I trying to threatened you. I only want you, Albert and others that mocked Tim Tebow to Wake the Heck up! Wake the Heck up and be responsible for trashing and bashing of words! I’m not threating you in any way. I’ll respect you with your beliefs(even though I wholeheartly don’t agree with your beliefs)…therefore respect my beliefs. BTW…Stop calling my Christianity a religion. Thanks Man.
November 7th, 2011 at 11:45 am
we dominated cleveland denver in the opener and beat NYJ straight up by being more physical. We beat Houston looking overmatched at first but looking slightly better in the end don’t give me the mirage wins bs we won just like we lost to buff on the last play
November 7th, 2011 at 11:45 am
the defense has been up and down but our offense was good enough to over come it. This hasn’t been the case since losing our qb. perhaps palmer can improve and try to catch up with what jc was doing for us.
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BS Mistic and you know it.
vs Jets JC had 156 yds vs the Jets and no TD. That was all DMAC.
vs Den JC had 105 yds passing.
vs Houston JC couldnt even get us a first down until 2 mins left in the first half. It was all Janikowski and our dumb luck.
vs Browns. JC wasnt even there for most of the game.
Go ahead and keep up with your JC fantasy. Will you root for the Donkeys when he starts for them next year?
November 7th, 2011 at 11:46 am
cp versus jc is such a minor issue compared to our problems on d..and whoever decided to make louis murphy a gunner on punt returns needs to have their head examined. murphy avoids contact at all times and basically gave up on that punt return
November 7th, 2011 at 11:46 am
9 INTERCEPTIONS THE LAST 2 GAMES,WONT WIN UNTIL THEY STOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 7th, 2011 at 11:47 am
The QB you so dearly love had little to do with our wins.Campbell didn’t drop the sure TD pass in Houston.Campbell didn’t throw the winning TD pass on a fake punt.Campbell didn’t bust any long runs against the Jets.We were winning on fluke plays and your hero had NOTHING to do with any of them.If the outcome was determined by his play we loss all those games.
November 7th, 2011 at 11:47 am
Everybody keeps talking about fix this and that, but no one is talkin about fixing the freaking turnovers , If you guys seen our games you guys know what I’m talking about whenever we committed a turnover our whole teams body language changes an it’s like here we go again kinda of attitude we can win alot of games if we play mistake free football …
November 7th, 2011 at 11:48 am
it isnt easy to change identity in midseason but that is what hu jack has been tried to do.
No longer is this team cool in the clutch that can strike at any time and win with the game hanging in the balance. instead the season is disintegrating into a turn over filled cavalcade of errors, and disgruntled finger pointing.
This gamble by hu jack has painted us into a corner for the next couple of years. If ti works then great, but if not….
Wwe should bring in vince young or garrard to compete with carson, if hu jack doesnt have the gumption to re install jc. Or we need to draft a young qb. i vote for robert griffin III i bet hu jack could really have that space aged offense he wants with that guy pulling the trigger.
November 7th, 2011 at 11:48 am
420 yds given up by the ground + penalty will never win you any game and hasnt in the last 7 years.
November 7th, 2011 at 11:48 am
“how did you guys get to cable he isnt a raider, and has no impact on why we are losing now. the qb does though”
So please show me another NFL team that gives up 300 yards rushing and won!
You can try to blame Palmer all you want but in reality no team can win when you give up 300 yards rushing NO TEAM!
Not even with JC your savior!
November 7th, 2011 at 11:48 am
aig-raiders Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 11:37 am
The 4 wins we had were full of holes but we all ignored it.
vs Denver – It was awful for both teams and we lost because Denver was more sorry than us on that day.
vs Jets – They were leading 17 – 7 and we had 4 consecutive 3 and outs until DMAC just litteraly took over beginning with that 70 yder.
vs Houston – We should have lost this game. Only Jano and the ghost of Al saved the day. Heck we only had 10 men on the field for the final play.
vs Cleveland – It took a fake fg to win this game.
Really we are who we are. Our D has ranked near the bottom of the league since day 1 and nothing has changed.
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That’s the NFL though. Three of our losses also could’ve been turned around into wins with a big play or two or three. We had numerous chances in the Buffalo game to seal that one up but didn’t. Had Denver down 10 at the half at home yesterday and didn’t seal the deal. JC’s pick in the end zone against New England changed the whole complexion of that game.
We’re in that muddle of teams that could go 6-10 or 10-6 depending on effort and breaks.
P.S. – The common thread in those three games I mentioned was turnstyle defense. New Enlgand went up and down the field on us, but it was NE so we wrote it off. Buffalo scored 35 in the second half. Denver 31.
November 7th, 2011 at 11:49 am
940.mcfadden20. Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 11:47 am
Everybody keeps talking about fix this and that, but no one is talkin about fixing the freaking turnovers , If you guys seen our games you guys know what I’m talking about whenever we committed a turnover our whole teams body language changes an it’s like here we go again kinda of attitude we can win alot of games if we play mistake free football …
THATS RIGHT #940…9 INTERCEPTIONS THE LAST 2 LOSES
November 7th, 2011 at 11:49 am
Goldie, I’m not trying to get in the middle of this but it’s not just Tebow’s mechanics that make him a poor QB. His vision is terrible, he can’t pick up blitzes or even dogs for that matter. Wimberley rushed him and he didn’t even see it until the last min. He doesn’t understand protection schemes. He has no pocket presence. The Broncos have to run the same offense that the local high schools in Texas run for him to be marginal. He is a FB that can underhand the ball to his receivers but he cannot play QB in the NFL. Just because he has won in the past doesn’t mean he can do so on a consistent basis in the NFL. Special Teams break down on a punt return, poor play and coaching on the Defensive side of the ball led to the Broncos win. Tebows other win was against the “suck for luck” candidates – the Fins. All of that religious stuff you can just throw it out the window. Tebow guarantees that the Broncos will not be a playoff team for as long as he starts for them.
November 7th, 2011 at 11:49 am
907.Silverandblack666 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 11:35 am
“With all your trash talking you made Tebow a winner.”
Wow I did that myself!
I must have some real super powers!
So blocking, tackling and TeBlow’s play had nothing to do with it? It was all me and my trash talking that made Teblow a star yesterday.
I better get a call from his agent!!
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lol…It’s ok Man, I see you wanna keep making jokes. Remember, that you posted the Raiders would have an easy victory over the Broncos because of Tebow.
November 7th, 2011 at 11:49 am
I don’t think any of us thought we were done losing … But to lose the way we did yesterday brings me right back to The JaMarcus Russell days…
November 7th, 2011 at 11:50 am
i vote for robert griffin III i bet hu jack could really have that space aged offense he wants with that guy pulling the trigger.
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Mistic
Russell Wilson would like to know why you’re not on his wagon. He wants to know if if he is too light skinned for you?
November 7th, 2011 at 11:50 am
“cp versus jc is such a minor issue compared to our problems on d..and whoever decided to make louis murphy a gunner on punt returns needs to have their head examined. murphy avoids contact at all times and basically gave up on that punt return”
This guy gets it!
Derick Hagan was our gunner and apparently a DAMN good one!
November 7th, 2011 at 11:50 am
just like we lost to buff on the last play
936.aig-raiders Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 11:45 am
the defense has been up and down but our offense was good enough to over come it. This hasn’t been the case since losing our qb. perhaps palmer can improve and try to catch up with what jc was doing for us.
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BS Mistic and you know it.
vs Jets JC had 156 yds vs the Jets and no TD. That was all DMAC.
vs Den JC had 105 yds passing.
vs Houston JC couldnt even get us a first down until 2 mins left in the first half. It was all Janikowski and our dumb luck.
vs Browns. JC wasnt even there for most of the game.
Go ahead and keep up with your JC fantasy. Will you root for the Donkeys when he starts for them next year
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Throw all the stats you want … HOw bout this one …
JC – 7-0 in the AFC west JaCarson 0-2 . Hopefully DMAC comes back and ENTERS THE BEAST MODE ASAP !
November 7th, 2011 at 11:51 am
I win is a fk’n win in the NFL.
Schit can go both ways w/ wins and losses.
November 7th, 2011 at 11:51 am
When you have a running game like we have, why Hue is going away from a dominant runnung game with DMAC or not is beyond me.
Got news for you!! What you see with Palmer is what you are going to get. He threw INTs with the Bengal’s all the time. You can’t give the ball away three times with a sorry defense like ours. Average rush, weak coverage. It is the truth man, they’re weak.
Now we have that vertical losing offense with a weak defense that we have always invisioned. D@MN!!!!
Don’t you Campbell critics wish we had him back now. Ball control and well positioned passes. With our running game he did not need to throw the ball 30 plus times a game.
November 7th, 2011 at 11:53 am
# aig-raiders Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 11:45 am
the defense has been up and down but our offense was good enough to over come it. This hasn’t been the case since losing our qb. perhaps palmer can improve and try to catch up with what jc was doing for us.
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BS Mistic and you know it.
vs Jets JC had 156 yds vs the Jets and no TD. That was all DMAC.
vs Den JC had 105 yds passing.
vs Houston JC couldnt even get us a first down until 2 mins left in the first half. It was all Janikowski and our dumb luck.
vs Browns. JC wasnt even there for most of the game.
Go ahead and keep up with your JC fantasy. Will you root for the Donkeys when he starts for them next year?
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aig what are you talking about now?
so we win but it doesnt have anything to do with our qb play? You are looking at fanatasy football numbers and missing the value of leadership and clutch play. In the 4th quarter and on 3rd down Jc has been outstanding the last two years, this is why we were wining games. it allows the defense to stay fresh and allows the running game to thrive. This played to our strengths as a team. In each of those games the qb made critical plays down the stretch to seal the victory or bring us from behind.
we havnt seen that over the last two weeks. it is that simple.
November 7th, 2011 at 11:53 am
We are a run first team!
I think Hue has gotten away from that lately, because of the DMAC injury.
November 7th, 2011 at 11:54 am
The offense did not lose the game for us but was off. It kind of looked like CP would get in to the game and then start practicing, throwing different passes to see what he has in these receivers. Once he gets in sink with his wideouts watchout. They are not going to be able to stop him AND a healthy DMAC.
November 7th, 2011 at 11:54 am
# aig-raiders Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 11:50 am
i vote for robert griffin III i bet hu jack could really have that space aged offense he wants with that guy pulling the trigger.
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Mistic
Russell Wilson would like to know why you’re not on his wagon. He wants to know if if he is too light skinned for you?
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wrong
I LOVE RUSSEL WILSON!!!!!! i HAVE POSTED THAT HERE BEFORE HE IS DREW BREES ONLY WAY MORE ATHLETIC AND WITH A WAY BIGGER ARM
November 7th, 2011 at 11:54 am
953.CJ Legend 34 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 11:51 am
When you have a running game like we have, why Hue is going away from a dominant runnung game with DMAC or not is beyond me.
Got news for you!! What you see with Palmer is what you are going to get. He threw INTs with the Bengal’s all the time. You can’t give the ball away three times with a sorry defense like ours. Average rush, weak coverage. It is the truth man, they’re weak.
Now we have that vertical losing offense with a weak defense that we have always invisioned. D@MN!!!!
Don’t you Campbell critics wish we had him back now. Ball control and well positioned passes. With our running game he did not need to throw the ball 30 plus times a game.
I could not have stated it BETTER.
9 INTERCEPTIONS LAST 2 GAMES,,,AINT GONNA WIN NUTHIN. Not even against a High School Team.
November 7th, 2011 at 11:54 am
P.S. – The common thread in those three games I mentioned was turnstyle defense. New Enlgand went up and down the field on us, but it was NE so we wrote it off. Buffalo scored 35 in the second half. Denver 31.
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Agreed. That’s why I am saying those wins masked our true weakness. The Dline was supposed to be our strength and but they only got 1 sack yesterday to a team that gave up a combined 14 sacks the previous 2 weeks. It is a sad day for me to admit the Niners have a better front 4 than we do.
November 7th, 2011 at 11:54 am
I said we’d miss Hagan – be was a baller!
November 7th, 2011 at 11:55 am
Can’t judge CP yet, until he has a healthy DMAC in the back field.
November 7th, 2011 at 11:55 am
Hue is my boy but he is out coaching himself. He needs to stop trying all of this creative BS on offense and get back to calling the plays you have the talent for on the field.
Also if you are going to play DHB than play him. Makes no sense why you just start geting him up to speed and you keep him out the game. No sense!!! I keep playing him with the other WRs.
Did anyone else see Palmer trying to force the ball to Husch besides me?
November 7th, 2011 at 11:56 am
Mistic,
Will you root for the Donkeys if JC starts for them next year?
November 7th, 2011 at 11:56 am
AND we miss Sho’nasty – more than anyone here seems to think.
November 7th, 2011 at 11:57 am
CJ Legend 34 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 11:55 am
Hue is my boy but he is out coaching himself. He needs to stop trying all of this creative BS on offense and get back to calling the plays you have the talent for on the field.
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Yep, he is over thinking himself…However the D needs to step the fck up….No reason to give up 24 points in the second half…300 yards rushing really?
November 7th, 2011 at 11:58 am
Sad to say, Hue is not cut out for the power that has fallen into his hands.
The Palmer trade was debatable, but picking up Housh and dumping the hard-working Hagan was a really bad idea.
Without Al’s oversight (which was often the problem with other coaches), Hue doesn’t know how to run things.
November 7th, 2011 at 11:58 am
Mistic,
You do realize that JC’s career is over iwth the Raiders. He wants to be a starter and it aint goign to happen here. We spent a 3rd round on Pryor and aint going to draft another QB next year. Are you are real Raider fan that you boasted to be or are you going to be a fake like you called us on this blog? C’mon are you rooting for JC when he starts against the Raiders?
November 7th, 2011 at 11:58 am
raidertalk Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 11:54 am
The offense did not lose the game for us but was off. It kind of looked like CP would get in to the game and then start practicing, throwing different passes to see what he has in these receivers. Once he gets in sink with his wideouts watchout. They are not going to be able to stop him AND a healthy DMAC.
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That’s what I’m saying.
November 7th, 2011 at 11:59 am
963.aig-raiders Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 11:56 am
Mistic,
Will you root for the Donkeys if JC starts for them next year?
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Will you root for JaCarson when we are 4-12 and have no 1st round pick ????
November 7th, 2011 at 11:59 am
Throw all the stats you want … HOw bout this one …
JC – 7-0 in the AFC west JaCarson 0-2 . Hopefully DMAC comes back and ENTERS THE BEAST MODE ASAP !
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LOL! Very revealing, this post. Then you will give DMAC the credit for the wins, right, and finally recognize what he means to this team?
By the way, Carson is 0-1 as a starter, not 0-2. But keep twisting away to try to push your propaganda.
Tell me, how did Campbell do in his first game with this team after a full minicamp, something Palmer did not get?
November 7th, 2011 at 11:59 am
#953, you nailed it CJ…
November 7th, 2011 at 12:00 pm
Actually,I miss Al more than anyone.He kept HJ in place.No way DHB and Boss are benched for no reason.No way Hagan is replaced for no reason if he were still here.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:00 pm
Raiderbuck Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 11:56 am
AND we miss Sho’nasty – more than anyone here seems to think.
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#90 Bryant seemed to be holding his own vs the run for a few games there. I thought I saw him played inside yesterday. We can’t get any pass rush with our DE’s. I’m starting to think Houston is overrated.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:00 pm
The Defense was its own worst enemy yesterday. There were at least THREE TIMES that they had denver out on third down but committed unexplicable penalties.
I don’t know if Seymore is just angry at the world sometimes! The RB was gang tackeled and pretty much down when in comes Sey and yanks and pulls his facemask. Who knows? maybe the denver Oline was playing him dirty like they’re known to play.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:00 pm
# lefty12 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 11:47 am
The QB you so dearly love had little to do with our wins.Campbell didn’t drop the sure TD pass in Houston.Campbell didn’t throw the winning TD pass on a fake punt.Campbell didn’t bust any long runs against the Jets.We were winning on fluke plays and your hero had NOTHING to do with any of them.If the outcome was determined by his play we loss all those games.
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You cats are funny
a qb goes 12-7 as the starter does agreat job leading the team and avoding picks and ‘the wins have nothing to do with him”
Then a new guy throws 6 picks in 6 quarters with two returned for tds and is 0-2 yet “its not on palmer”
By some of the logic you cats use turning the ball over & losing is acceptable, but wining playing low risk style is not.
comical
November 7th, 2011 at 12:00 pm
DT42 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 11:49 am
Goldie, I’m not trying to get in the middle of this but it’s not just Tebow’s mechanics that make him a poor QB. His vision is terrible, he can’t pick up blitzes or even dogs for that matter. Wimberley rushed him and he didn’t even see it until the last min. He doesn’t understand protection schemes. He has no pocket presence. The Broncos have to run the same offense that the local high schools in Texas run for him to be marginal. He is a FB that can underhand the ball to his receivers but he cannot play QB in the NFL. Just because he has won in the past doesn’t mean he can do so on a consistent basis in the NFL. Special Teams break down on a punt return, poor play and coaching on the Defensive side of the ball led to the Broncos win. Tebows other win was against the “suck for luck” candidates – the Fins. All of that religious stuff you can just throw it out the window. Tebow guarantees that the Broncos will not be a playoff team for as long as he starts for
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DT…Yes indeed you have every right to get in the middle of this conversation. Yep, I understand what you’re saying about Tebow. I agree, Tebow has a lot thst doesn’t scream “elite” QB. All things that Tebow lacks he makes it up in his winning heart, attitude and tough character. Even though I despise the Donkeys…I still think Tim Tebow is a “winner at heart” and “winners at hearts” are very tricky and difficult to defeat.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:00 pm
DMAC I hear you but you know what? We have a Mike Bush who has not been as explosive as years past but he is the same Mike Bush that can get you 100+ yards a game. We have a rookie who runs a low 4.3 40 and can cut on a dime that we have not seen in action yet.
Above all we have the same freakin o-line that sprang DMAC since the first game. Run the d@mn ball Hue!!!
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955.DMAC Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 11:53 am
We are a run first team!
I think Hue has gotten away from that lately, because of the DMAC injury.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
THE COLLEGE OPTION beat the Raiders yesterday…
November 7th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
I would agree that Hue is out coaching himself.
This is why he held out DHB for most of the game yesterday – to keep him healthy for next week. I also believe that DMC could have played yesterday if he had to.
They obviously thought we would dismantle the Bronco’s and they had their sites set on SD. Bad move, obvioiusly.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
Jesus Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 11:44 am
924.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 11:42 am
# The Big Banana Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 11:38 am
Lefty12 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 11:23 am
Last year we were undefeated in division.While he was HC,we never lost to the donkeys.Does that mean Cable was a better HC than HJ?What you say to that Mistic?
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No, it doesn’t. The propaganda only applies to Campbell.
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how did you guys get to cable he isnt a raider, and has no impact on why we are losing now. the qb does though
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Haha. Listen to your own advice. Campbell is no longer a part of the future here, whether you like it or not. So why is he being discussed?
November 7th, 2011 at 12:02 pm
Jesus Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 11:59 am
963.aig-raiders Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 11:56 am
Mistic,
Will you root for the Donkeys if JC starts for them next year?
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Will you root for JaCarson when we are 4-12 and have no 1st round pick ????
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I will root for CP3 so long as he performs and no we are never goign to be 4-12 anymore. I GUARANTEE YOU THAT. We may be 8-8 or 9-7 at our worst but that’s about it. Until we play better on D, we’re stuck at .500.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:03 pm
Then a new guy throws 6 picks in 6 quarters with two returned for tds and is 0-2 yet “its not on palmer”
By some of the logic you cats use turning the ball over & losing is acceptable, but wining playing low risk style is not.
comical
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What’s comical is how you pick and choose your stats. Palmer is 0-2? Are you sure? As a starter?
November 7th, 2011 at 12:04 pm
Orthodoxdj Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 11:58 am
Sad to say, Hue is not cut out for the power that has fallen into his hands.
The Palmer trade was debatable, but picking up Housh and dumping the hard-working Hagan was a really bad idea.
Without Al’s oversight (which was often the problem with other coaches), Hue doesn’t know how to run things.
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Yeah, the Housh/Hagan swap didn’t make any sense.
I like the Palmer trade. Can’t overstate how important a good QB is, how hard it is to find one and how overrated draft picks are.
I’ve been a big Hue fan as well, but maybe he did need to be humbled to get his and the team’s focus back in line these last two weeks.
Time for Richard Seymour to show he’s a true leader and not some phony this week. This defense better come out looking like the ‘85 Bears or ‘00 Ravens on Thursday after the way they embarrassed themselves and Raiders Nation Sunday.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:04 pm
Thec07 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
THE COLLEGE OPTION beat the Raiders yesterday…
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We only had 2 weeks to prepare for it. Plus, did you see how wide open their WR’s were yesterday?
November 7th, 2011 at 12:04 pm
# aig-raiders Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 11:58 am
Mistic,
You do realize that JC’s career is over iwth the Raiders. He wants to be a starter and it aint goign to happen here. We spent a 3rd round on Pryor and aint going to draft another QB next year. Are you are real Raider fan that you boasted to be or are you going to be a fake like you called us on this blog? C’mon are you rooting for JC when he starts against the Raiders?
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Im not sure where this is coming from, but i do know palmer has a long way to go before he can match the production and big time clutch play from jc over the past two years.
6 picks, two for pick 6,3 sacks and 1 fumbled snap is not a good start
November 7th, 2011 at 12:05 pm
who cares about Hagan….seriously.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:05 pm
# The Big Banana Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 12:03 pm
Then a new guy throws 6 picks in 6 quarters with two returned for tds and is 0-2 yet “its not on palmer”
By some of the logic you cats use turning the ball over & losing is acceptable, but wining playing low risk style is not.
comical
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What’s comical is how you pick and choose your stats. Palmer is 0-2? Are you sure? As a starter?
0-1 as the starter
November 7th, 2011 at 12:05 pm
I would like to add however that if CP had the same numbers he had yesterday but we won. The song in here wouldn’t sound the same as it does in here today.
People would be saying that we finally have the QB that we’ve been searching for all these years.
With JC we had to have a running game, with CP we don’t. Either way we need to run the ball!
I like JC and what he did for us, I even hope there is a chance that he’ll be back next year as backup. But when was the last time JC threw for 330 yrds, 3td’s?
November 7th, 2011 at 12:06 pm
By some of the logic you cats use turning the ball over & losing is acceptable, but wining playing low risk style is not.
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Low risk, eh?
So how did Campbell do in his last action? 0 TDs, 1 fumble. More turnovers than TDs.
Palmer’s last action has him at 3 TDs and 3 INTs. Even
November 7th, 2011 at 12:06 pm
CJ Legend 34 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 12:00 pm
DMAC I hear you but you know what? We have a Mike Bush who has not been as explosive as years past but he is the same Mike Bush that can get you 100+ yards a game. We have a rookie who runs a low 4.3 40 and can cut on a dime that we have not seen in action yet.
Above all we have the same freakin o-line that sprang DMAC since the first game. Run the d@mn ball Hue!!!
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955.DMAC Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 11:53 am
We are a run first team!
I think Hue has gotten away from that lately, because of the DMAC injury.
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I totally agree w/ you. Bush and Taiwan should get more carries, but for some reason Hue has gotten away from our run game.
Our run game opens up our passing game.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
Nothing will happen until we stop committing turnovers , the defense needs to be held accountable but they won’t because when we turn the ball over they just say he u guys didn’t do any good so it’s okay if we allow another TD first play … And we sorely miss McLain that blackstock guy should b unemployed right now .. I knew we were fvcked when Hue said McClain wont play in this game , I saw the glimpse of our D with blackstock as middle linebacker against Chiefs , we were doing fine with McClain buy when he came in they were easily getting 5 -10 yards per carry .. So those issues need to b resolved and we can win any games ….
November 7th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
Its not all JaCarsons fault … I also blame stupid Hue Jax for the horrible play calling… RUN the fn ball!
November 7th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
Jacoby Ford hinted that the Raiders used the bye week to get him more involved offensively.
Ford started over Darrius Heyward-Bey and racked up five catches for 105 yards with a touchdown in yesterday’s loss to the Broncos. “I think we did really well with the things we worked on during the bye,” Ford said. “[Palmer] knew where he wanted the ball to be and I knew where I needed to be for us to make the completions.” Ford’s game-breaking speed has him on the WR3 radar ahead of Thursday’s game against the Chargers.
Source: Contra Costa Times
November 7th, 2011 at 12:08 pm
978.Thec07 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
THE COLLEGE OPTION beat the Raiders yesterday…
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You are right Thec! Our D is real weak man, I mean real weak. I hate to call them out like this but it has to be said man. THEY ARE DUMB AS A FUKN BOX OF ROCKS!!!!
They make the most bone head penalties I have seen in years of watching football. Their LBs can’t read angels, their DEs don’t keep their heads up to look for the runners on the sides. They have 0 containment. They have issues finding the ball. This is a bad defense man. WRs were wide open all day long aginst a run first team. LMAO!!!
They very worse is THEY CAN’T TACKLE AT THE PRO LEVEL. NO SHOULDER, NO POP!, NO WRAP.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:09 pm
901.Chris in NY Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 11:33 am
For all complaining about the need to run the ball more. By my count we dropped back for 37 pass plays (35 attempts + 2 sacks) and tried 25 runs. Prior to Denver taking the lead with about 5 minutes left and forcing us to pass, we had 24 pass plays and 25 running plays.
Having said that I do think we should’ve gotten Taiwan Jones at least 10 touches on offense yesterday. I think he had 1.
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Yeah would have like to seen Taiwan on some screens and more run plays.
It seemed that once we had the lead yesterday, we did know what to do with. Seemed like we were still going for the big play when we might have won with a LITTLE bit of clock-control offense.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:09 pm
# The Big Banana Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
Jesus Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 11:44 am
924.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 11:42 am
# The Big Banana Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 11:38 am
Lefty12 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 11:23 am
Last year we were undefeated in division.While he was HC,we never lost to the donkeys.Does that mean Cable was a better HC than HJ?What you say to that Mistic?
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No, it doesn’t. The propaganda only applies to Campbell.
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how did you guys get to cable he isnt a raider, and has no impact on why we are losing now. the qb does though
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Haha. Listen to your own advice. Campbell is no longer a part of the future here, whether you like it or not. So why is he being discussed?
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i was pointing out how the drop off in qb play is the real culprit in our last two losses. i used some comparative stats to make my point and the findings were shocking for some on this board. So they then went to trying to disparage our former qb. I also wanted to examine closley this magic bullet instant upgrade theory, and its full of holes. in fact I found the opposite to be true, it looks like Jc outperformed palmer in critical situations last year and this year as well.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:10 pm
Raiders MLB Rolando McClain (ankle) was active for Sunday’s game against the Broncos, but did not play.
McClain has been dealing with this injury since early October. Darryl Blackstock filled in at middle linebacker once again, compiling four tackles and a sack in the loss.
Related: Darryl Blackstock
Source: Contra Costa Times
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I guess Hue thought he would get by w/out Romac and it back fired on him.
Blackstock is garbage and shouldn’t be in the NFL.
Schit I’ll take Rickey Brown over Blackstock.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
Hue’s honeymoon is over
Posted by Mike Florio on November 7, 2011, 1:50 PM EST
Apart from the obvious implications of a pair of ugly home losses in a division the Raiders dominated last year, there are clear signs that Oakland coach Hue Jackson has entered the post-honeymoon phase of his career as a head coach.
We’ve been hearing increasing chatter via our network of sources regarding a growing perception among players that Jackson’s power in the wake of the passing of owner Al Davis has gone to Jackson’s head. It’s believed within the locker room that Jackson is running the show; as one league source explained it, some players believe Jackson isn’t qualified to have that much power.
Punctuating the quietly growing sense of resentment was a team meeting from Saturday night in which Jackson warned players that he’s already looking at free agents and that he won’t hesitate to cut current members of the team and replace them. Whatever Jackson did to push the right buttons before the game against the Broncos didn’t work; Oakland lost by 14 points to a team that extensively used the kind of college-style read-option offense that isn’t supposed to work at the NFL level.
Winning, as we’ve seen elsewhere, can quickly quiet the complainers. Jackson gets a chance to get things under control come Thursday night, when the Raiders travel to San Diego for a game against the Chargers.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
The college option. Amazing.
We beat SD, Den Beats KC and where we should have been today.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
“who cares about Hagan….seriously.”
I do he was a damn good gunner on punts and you saw what happened yesterday when Taiwan Jones was in there.
Again someone please explain to me who Eddie Royal outran Taiwan Jones?
Isn’t Taiwan Jones our fastest player?
November 7th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
Really need to stop turning it over and start running the damn ball … Let’s smash it down their throats …. We need to play physical on every freaking play…
November 7th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
If the above is true, that’s seriously concerning. Can’t win with a split locker room.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
Yeah, people talking about Palmer being 0-2 are too funny. Didn’t realize that when you come in halfway through the 3rd quarter in a 21-0 hole you’re on the hook for the L.
These are the same folks who credit Campbell for the win because he started against StL last year (even though he was pulled and we were down a couple scores at the time) as well as for the first win against SD when Campbell came on in relief with the Raiders having a 10-point lead.
These guys should work for Fox News or the RNC the way they shamelessly twist the facts and cherry pick stats to get in line with their opinions.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
Reading these tweets on twitter it sounds to me that Hue has already lost the locker room. Players don’t know what the heck is going on anymore.
What a crap hole Monday.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:13 pm
i was pointing out how the drop off in qb play is the real culprit in our last two losses. i used some comparative stats to make my point and the findings were shocking for some on this board. So they then went to trying to disparage our former qb. I also wanted to examine closley this magic bullet instant upgrade theory, and its full of holes. in fact I found the opposite to be true, it looks like Jc outperformed palmer in critical situations last year and this year as well.
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I think we all need to put our judgements aside for CP, until he has a healthy DMAC in the back field.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:13 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
Really need to stop turning it over and start running the damn ball … Let’s smash it down their throats …. We need to play physical on every freaking play…
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Word……….
November 7th, 2011 at 12:13 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
“who cares about Hagan….seriously.”
I do he was a damn good gunner on punts and you saw what happened yesterday when Taiwan Jones was in there.
Again someone please explain to me who Eddie Royal outran Taiwan Jones?
Isn’t Taiwan Jones our fastest player?
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You need explaining on that? It called science. Running one way, having to stop and run the other way…?
So Hagan doesnt get blocked in the back on that punt return or….draws the flag or….? Im not getting what he would have done on that play.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
“i was pointing out how the drop off in qb play is the real culprit in our last two losses.”
Really?
Please name one team that has given up 300 yards rushing, 100+ yards in penalties and won the game?
You wont find one!
Stop blaming Palmer for the loss!
November 7th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
Again about the run/pass mix. We had more running plays than passing plays in the game until Denver took the lead with 5 minutes left and we had to throw more.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:15 pm
“Yeah, people talking about Palmer being 0-2 are too funny. Didn’t realize that when you come in halfway through the 3rd quarter in a 21-0 hole you’re on the hook for the L.
These are the same folks who credit Campbell for the win because he started against StL last year (even though he was pulled and we were down a couple scores at the time) as well as for the first win against SD when Campbell came on in relief with the Raiders having a 10-point lead.
These guys should work for Fox News or the RNC the way they shamelessly twist the facts and cherry pick stats to get in line with their opinions.”
Great post!
November 7th, 2011 at 12:15 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
“who cares about Hagan….seriously.”
I do he was a damn good gunner on punts and you saw what happened yesterday when Taiwan Jones was in there.
Again someone please explain to me who Eddie Royal outran Taiwan Jones?
Isn’t Taiwan Jones our fastest player?
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I think Taiwan was waaaay on the other side. WTF was Murph doing as a wannabe gunner is my ?????
November 7th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
*****ONE THING I WANT YOU ALL TO TAKE FROM THIS BLOG TODAY IF NOTHING ELSE.*****
OUR DEFENSE SUCKS!!! OUTSIDE OF THE COLTS THEY ARE THE WORSE DEFENSE IN THE LEAGUE. IF I WAS ANY OFFENSE IN THE LEAGUE I WOULD WANT TO PLAY THE RAIDERS DEFENSE. IT IS TRUE MAN. FACE MASK HERE, BALL BACK! 3RD DOWN PUSH TEBOW ON HIS A$$ 4 YARDS OUT OF BOUNDS, BALL BACK! THROW A TD, RUN A TD, RUN A KR BACK, RUN A TD.
EACH SCORE THE OFFENSE WAS UNTOUCHED. I HATE THIS DEFENSE MAN. WORSE I HAVE SAW IN A LONG TIME. DUMB AS A BOX OF ROCKS. CAN’T COVER A BABY WITH A 10 FOOT BLANKET. THEY SUCK!!!
November 7th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
“You need explaining on that? It called science. Running one way, having to stop and run the other way…?”
Watch the replay again and you will see Taiwan Jones chasing behind Royal for 50 yards and not ever gaining a step on him.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
# raiderjhawk Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 12:05 pm
With JC we had to have a running game, with CP we don’t. Either way we need to run the ball!
But when was the last time JC threw for 330 yrds, 3td’s?
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the consensus was that he needed the run game but it isnt true. There have been games where the running game wasnt going well and campbell saved us with his arm.
Would you rather have 300 yards and 3 tds with 3 picks and a loss, over less stats while winning?
further more the bengals were one of the worst rushing teams i the leauge last year and carson went 4-12, maybe it is him that needs the running game to win.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:17 pm
Raiders TE Kevin Boss barely got on the field in Sunday’s loss to the Broncos.
Boss’ concussion was not an issue, but the Raiders’ curious personnel choices were. He and Darrius Heyward-Bey were left as innocent bystanders on the sideline for the vast majority of the game. Coach Hue Jackson said Boss didn’t play because they chose to go with a lot of three-receiver, two-running back sets. He signed a four-year, $16 million contract with the Raiders in August.
Source: Contra Costa Times
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????????? Hue??????????
I said this a few weeks back. Could Boss be in Hue’s dog house?
November 7th, 2011 at 12:17 pm
” We have a rookie who runs a low 4.3 40 and can cut on a dime that we have not seen in action yet.”…
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We’ve seen him. So have the defenses we’ve played. When he’s in the backfield they go wide and seal the edge. He has usually (except for two carries that I can remember) been stopped behind the line or run out of bounds for no gain. He isnt the answer.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:17 pm
Jarvis Moss made a huge fool out of himself.
Horrible game.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:18 pm
# Silverandblack666 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
“i was pointing out how the drop off in qb play is the real culprit in our last two losses.”
Really?
Please name one team that has given up 300 yards rushing, 100+ yards in penalties and won the game?
You wont find one!
Stop blaming Palmer for the loss!
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the running game exploded in the second half, when we turned the ball over and went 3 and out. this allowed denver to pound us until the defense tired out. You cant seperate the 3 picks from the loss
November 7th, 2011 at 12:19 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
“You need explaining on that? It called science. Running one way, having to stop and run the other way…?”
Watch the replay again and you will see Taiwan Jones chasing behind Royal for 50 yards and not ever gaining a step on him.
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I know what your saying but these guys both run sub 4.4’s
Its not like Eddie Royal is slow. Get someone running one way then have to turn and chase is different than lining up and going…ya know
November 7th, 2011 at 12:19 pm
Also again, Taiwan Jones had to sprint 80 or 90 yards down and across field to cover that punt. Then he got blocked in the back which set him behind Royal about 10-15 yards, then had to try to make up that ground despite Royal’s head start.
And Eddie Royal is fast. Probably only a step or two less than Jones. Not somebody Jones can spot 15 yards and then catch, especially after Jones himself is in the second half of a 170 yard sprint and Royal is starting the race fresh.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:19 pm
1011.DMAC Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 12:15 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
“who cares about Hagan….seriously.”
I do he was a damn good gunner on punts and you saw what happened yesterday when Taiwan Jones was in there.
Again someone please explain to me who Eddie Royal outran Taiwan Jones?
Isn’t Taiwan Jones our fastest player?
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I think Taiwan was waaaay on the other side. WTF was Murph doing as a wannabe gunner is my ?????
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Please let me explain how this works. There are players that play specific positions all over the field, but their are some players who are just good ball players. Most of them played all over the field going both ways in high school. Hagan was a ball player. He did what he had to do to win. Murphy, taiwan have speedy wr light in the @$$ all voer them. Hagan would kick the ball off if Hue told him to do it. He is a ball player.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:20 pm
Are team does not lack ability. They lack heart and God given common sense!!!!
November 7th, 2011 at 12:21 pm
SUCCEEDING AGAINST THE RUN
Bresnahan pointed out that the Broncos still managed 195 yards rushing against the Lions, even though teams that lose by 35 points tend to turn toward a pass-heavy attack.
Based on recent results, that should play right into the Raiders’ hands. They allowed a league-worst 5.9 yards per carry through their first four games. At that time, Jackson and Bresnahan promised to get the issue resolved at all costs.
Sure enough, the Raiders have allowed only 3.2 yards per carry the past three games. There isn’t any secret as to the impressive turnaround, Jackson said.
“We’re just getting people on the ground, basically,” Jackson said. “Getting off blocks. All the things that everybody says, all the clichés that people use, we’re doing them the best we’ve done them. Kudos to the defensive staff and Chuck Bresnahan, but the players, when it’s all said and done, they have to make a decision in that locker room that they’re tired of having the ball run at them like that, and that’s what they’ve done.”
RE: Tebow
“He came in here last year and played really well, and I expect he’ll come here again with the same thought,” Raiders coach Hue Jackson said. “The guy has talent. I’ve never questioned that. He can throw. He can run. And he’s on the opposing team, so we have to do everything that we can to get him under control.”
Raiders defensive coordinator Chuck Bresnahan echoed Jackson’s comments about Tebow posing problems for opposing defenses because of his rare ability to keep alive plays with his feet and run over defenders with his 240-pound frame.
“I see an offense that’s trying to take advantage of his skill set,” Bresnahan said. “It’s not my job to grade them. Until I get paid by (Broncos owner) Pat Bowlen, I’m not going to grade them on their efficiency or effectiveness. I’m just going to prepare ourselves to defend what they’re trying to do with him and the rest of the group around him.”
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what a difference 2 days makes !!!
November 7th, 2011 at 12:21 pm
Mistic,
Seriously, you know that you can’t judge CP, until he has a healthy DMAC in the back field right?
Try judging Campbell w/out a healthy DMAC. It’s not fair.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:21 pm
I don’t know what’s going to happen with this team rest of the year but I know hue will still have this job for atleast another year and I see alot of current players on our our team will be looking jobs elsewhere and obviously unless Chuck does a miracle with this D in remaining games , he will be the first to shown the door and I don’t Care what the reports say that hue told them he’s looking at free agents , etc , etc I think it was towards the D and that’s why they didn’t show up after every turnover and towards the players who keep committing stupid penalties , I’m glad that he’s saying that .. We don’t want no lil pu$$*s on our team , if they get but hurt , then hue will bring new players to this team … And we will win this thing as hue promised we’ll do everything to win the division and fight fOr the superbowl …
November 7th, 2011 at 12:21 pm
1020.Chris in NY Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 12:19 pm
Also again, Taiwan Jones had to sprint 80 or 90 yards down and across field to cover that punt. Then he got blocked in the back which set him behind Royal about 10-15 yards, then had to try to make up that ground despite Royal’s head start.
And Eddie Royal is fast. Probably only a step or two less than Jones. Not somebody Jones can spot 15 yards and then catch, especially after Jones himself is in the second half of a 170 yard sprint and Royal is starting the race fresh.
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True! Royal scored because they were out of there lanes and arm tackling as usual. We can’t tackle to save our lives.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:21 pm
Watch it again here is the link:
http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2011110607/2011/REG9/broncos@raiders#menu=highlights&tab=recap
You can see Jones chasing Royal from the 50 yard line all the way and never gaining a step on him.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
CJ Legend 34 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 12:20 pm
Are team does not lack ability. They lack heart and God given common sense!!!!
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And I wouldnt say heart, I would say they lack mental toughness.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 12:18 pm
# Silverandblack666 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
“i was pointing out how the drop off in qb play is the real culprit in our last two losses.”
Really?
Please name one team that has given up 300 yards rushing, 100+ yards in penalties and won the game?
You wont find one!
Stop blaming Palmer for the loss!
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the running game exploded in the second half, when we turned the ball over and went 3 and out. this allowed denver to pound us until the defense tired out. You cant seperate the 3 picks from the loss
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What about the fact that the game was essentially over before that 3rd pick in desperation time? You put 2 picks on par with insurmountable but not 300 yards rushing and 150 in penalties — many of them drive-extenders or Denver or drive-stallers for us?
November 7th, 2011 at 12:23 pm
1015.DMAC Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 12:17 pm
Raiders TE Kevin Boss barely got on the field in Sunday’s loss to the Broncos.
Boss’ concussion was not an issue, but the Raiders’ curious personnel choices were. He and Darrius Heyward-Bey were left as innocent bystanders on the sideline for the vast majority of the game. Coach Hue Jackson said Boss didn’t play because they chose to go with a lot of three-receiver, two-running back sets. He signed a four-year, $16 million contract with the Raiders in August.
Source: Contra Costa Times
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????????? Hue??????????
I said this a few weeks back. Could Boss be in Hue’s dog house?
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DMAC I don’t think he is in the dog house. I think he always hurt and Hue does not use the TE that much in his schemes. Why? Don’t know.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 12:21 pm
Watch it again here is the link:
http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2011110607/2011/REG9/broncos@raiders#menu=highlights&tab=recap
You can see Jones chasing Royal from the 50 yard line all the way and never gaining a step on him.
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Again, Jones is in the second half of what’s a 170 yard sprint for him while Royal is fresh there.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
CJ Legend 34 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 12:23 pm
1015.DMAC Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 12:17 pm
Raiders TE Kevin Boss barely got on the field in Sunday’s loss to the Broncos.
Boss’ concussion was not an issue, but the Raiders’ curious personnel choices were. He and Darrius Heyward-Bey were left as innocent bystanders on the sideline for the vast majority of the game. Coach Hue Jackson said Boss didn’t play because they chose to go with a lot of three-receiver, two-running back sets. He signed a four-year, $16 million contract with the Raiders in August.
Source: Contra Costa Times
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????????? Hue??????????
I said this a few weeks back. Could Boss be in Hue’s dog house?
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DMAC I don’t think he is in the dog house. I think he always hurt and Hue does not use the TE that much in his schemes. Why? Don’t know.
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I don’t know. He uses Myers over Boss. He tries end arounds w/ Ausberry. And so on and so on.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
1028.DeuceDeuce Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
CJ Legend 34 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 12:20 pm
Are team does not lack ability. They lack heart and God given common sense!!!!
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And I wouldnt say heart, I would say they lack mental toughness.
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Deucedeuce I will by that baby! Mental toughness it is.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:25 pm
# DMAC Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 12:21 pm
Mistic,
Seriously, you know that you can’t judge CP, until he has a healthy DMAC in the back field right?
Try judging Campbell w/out a healthy DMAC. It’s not fair.
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Judging palmer?
What do you mean? Im saying that the qb play is the biggest issue in our back to back losses. Fair or unfair injuries happen and when our starter went down we lost fantastic leadership and quality play on the field. the qb play since that moment has been abysmal. Sure it can improve but im wondering how much.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:25 pm
I am just so angry about the loss!
I understand Jones was playing catch up and Royal is fast.
I get that!
It just stings so bad to lose like this!
November 7th, 2011 at 12:26 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 12:25 pm
I am just so angry about the loss!
I understand Jones was playing catch up and Royal is fast.
I get that!
It just stings so bad to lose like this!
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Totally understand brother.
Im really frustrated too.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:27 pm
Blaming Palmer for the raiders defense and ST bad game… LOL..Oh Mistic. . You crack me up!! LOL..
November 7th, 2011 at 12:27 pm
The RAI_ERS.
I left the D out of there for a reason.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:27 pm
Good point Chris in NY and I agree with you.
There is no way any NFL team can give up 300 yards rushing and 100+ yards in penalties and win.
The end!
November 7th, 2011 at 12:27 pm
F*ck. All the reports they wil go away as soon we start winning again..
November 7th, 2011 at 12:27 pm
1032.DMAC Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
CJ Legend 34 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 12:23 pm
1015.DMAC Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 12:17 pm
Raiders TE Kevin Boss barely got on the field in Sunday’s loss to the Broncos.
Boss’ concussion was not an issue, but the Raiders’ curious personnel choices were. He and Darrius Heyward-Bey were left as innocent bystanders on the sideline for the vast majority of the game. Coach Hue Jackson said Boss didn’t play because they chose to go with a lot of three-receiver, two-running back sets. He signed a four-year, $16 million contract with the Raiders in August.
Source: Contra Costa Times
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????????? Hue??????????
I said this a few weeks back. Could Boss be in Hue’s dog house?
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DMAC I don’t think he is in the dog house. I think he always hurt and Hue does not use the TE that much in his schemes. Why? Don’t know.
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I don’t know. He uses Myers over Boss. He tries end arounds w/ Ausberry. And so on and so on.
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I think you kind of answered it yourself. Think of all those plays. Trick $#!t with TEs who are really TE/WR/RBs. True TEs run boot drags, down and outs, hooks,etc, block. Hue needs to go back to the basics then incorporate all the trick plays. TE reverses and all of that mess.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:28 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 12:25 pm
# DMAC Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 12:21 pm
Mistic,
Seriously, you know that you can’t judge CP, until he has a healthy DMAC in the back field right?
Try judging Campbell w/out a healthy DMAC. It’s not fair.
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Judging palmer?
What do you mean? Im saying that the qb play is the biggest issue in our back to back losses. Fair or unfair injuries happen and when our starter went down we lost fantastic leadership and quality play on the field. the qb play since that moment has been abysmal. Sure it can improve but im wondering how much.
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C’mon man. You know what I mean. QB play?
November 7th, 2011 at 12:28 pm
Has Chuck B. Pulled his fat head, from his even fatter a$$ yet?….
November 7th, 2011 at 12:28 pm
raiderjhawk Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 12:27 pm
The RAI_ERS.
I left the D out of there for a reason.
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Post of the Day.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:28 pm
Raiders TE Kevin Boss barely got on the field in Sunday’s loss to the Broncos.
Boss’ concussion was not an issue, but the Raiders’ curious personnel choices were. He and Darrius Heyward-Bey were left as innocent bystanders on the sideline for the vast majority of the game. Coach Hue Jackson said Boss didn’t play because they chose to go with a lot of three-receiver, two-running back sets
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i’m puzzled
November 7th, 2011 at 12:29 pm
The issue I have with yesterday is we lost the 2nd half of that game 31-7. That is an ass beating. They made excellent adjustments, we didn’t. Take away the punt return, and we STILL lost the 2nd half 24-7. The Raiders mailed in the 2nd half of that game and unfortunately, the Raiders aren’t good enough to mail a postcard in.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:30 pm
Something tells me our O and D doesn’t get along so every time there is turnover its a whole damn different team , maybe hue really needs to have his guy at DC
November 7th, 2011 at 12:31 pm
# Chris in NY Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 12:18 pm
# Silverandblack666 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
“i was pointing out how the drop off in qb play is the real culprit in our last two losses.”
Really?
Please name one team that has given up 300 yards rushing, 100+ yards in penalties and won the game?
You wont find one!
Stop blaming Palmer for the loss!
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the running game exploded in the second half, when we turned the ball over and went 3 and out. this allowed denver to pound us until the defense tired out. You cant seperate the 3 picks from the loss
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What about the fact that the game was essentially over before that 3rd pick in desperation time? You put 2 picks on par with insurmountable but not 300 yards rushing and 150 in penalties — many of them drive-extenders or Denver or drive-stallers for us?
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there is no way around it, when you turn the ball over and go 3 and out the defense will tire. The second half of games is where this typically will show up. make no mistakes the turn overs and drive stalls led directly to being bowled over in the run game. If we can protect the ball and extend drives you take time off the clock , rest your defense, and possibly extend your lead. This forces denver to throw, but intsead we fed into what they do best.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:31 pm
Let’s see how CP plays w/ DMAC in the back field. Then we’ll know if he’s contender or pretender.
That’s all I’m saying.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
1045.RaiderRockstar Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 12:28 pm
Raiders TE Kevin Boss barely got on the field in Sunday’s loss to the Broncos.
Boss’ concussion was not an issue, but the Raiders’ curious personnel choices were. He and Darrius Heyward-Bey were left as innocent bystanders on the sideline for the vast majority of the game. Coach Hue Jackson said Boss didn’t play because they chose to go with a lot of three-receiver, two-running back sets
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i’m puzzled
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RR we just lost to Tim Tebow runing the option. The whole Raider Nation is puzzled. : )
November 7th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
I’ll say it again, if we HAD won yesterday people in here wouldn’t be concerned with Palmer’s play IN THAT GAME.
330 yrds and 3 td’s isn’t anything to shake a stick at, we put up 430 yrds of total offense.
THE PROBLEM:
OUR DEFENSE IS ABSOLUTELY HORRENDOUS! LINE THEM UP AND SHOOT THEM ALL. THEY AREN’T HUNGRY, WHEN THE GOING GETS TOUGH… JUST QUIT BABY.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
Unfortunately, Jason Campbell is still wondering to himself, “how’d he do that?” of the passes Palmer nailed right where they had to be to Reece and to Ford for the TDs. Hopefully, the interception thing will improve as the QB and receivers get into synch. I’m still not on Palmer’s bandwagon, but Campbell could try those two passes yesterday for a month and if he got within a foot or two of target, it’s simply be luck.
On the Reece naysayers… I think the guy adds more in versatility than he lacks in blocking.
All of those things aside, the Raiders need someone on the teammate level to become absolutley intolerant of lackluster play. I once read where Keith Richards was that guy with the Rolling Stones. He let his band mates know it if they were giving poor performances. Rich Gannon was the last guy with the Raiders to take that leadership role. Players expect the coach to reem them when necessary, but it’s collective peer pressure that raises the levels of all. This up and down crap needs to stop. This team has shown its capabilities at times. The problem is not one of occasional flashes of greatness but instead it is one of bearing down, being held accountable by one’s peers, and playing steady, solid, every day football at a level at which one is capable.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:34 pm
Teams have turned the ball over 5 or 6 times and won before in the NFL. But 300 yards rushing and over 100 yards in penalties no way to win with those numbers.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
1028.DeuceDeuce Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
CJ Legend 34 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 12:20 pm
Are team does not lack ability. They lack heart and God given common sense!!!!
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*Our
And I wouldnt say heart, I would say they lack mental toughness.
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I agree. It looks like they are just plaing for the play and not win. They need to think this is a WHOLE GAME we have to play for.
When we had the two score lead early, the team looked confused like THEY DIDNT KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH IT.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
1049.DMAC Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 12:31 pm
Let’s see how CP plays w/ DMAC in the back field. Then we’ll know if he’s contender or pretender.
That’s all I’m saying.
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Fella’s two games or not. Three paractices or not this is the same Carson Palmer that showed up for the Bengal’s I am telling you. He has always thrown a high number of picks. His balls float on him sometimesdown the field. He can throw a great ball one minute a sputtering INT the next. Thas is how it goes with Carson. He is going to win some games for us but he is going to blow some with passes just like yesterday.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:36 pm
here is what we lost when our qb went down vs what we have gained. Its just cold hard numbers, there is no agenda other than truth at with this post. paler must improve in these areas to simulate what Jc was doing for us.
Cuase for alarm for carson, or just rust? peep these numbers
carson palmer on 3rd down 2010
95-174 1023 yds 54.6 comp% 9 tds 7 ints 8 sacks 72.6 rating
carson palmer in the 4th quarter 2010
108-182 1223 yds 59.3 comp% 9 td 8 ints 12 sacks 77.7 rating
carson palmer on 3rd down 2011
5-13 51 yds 38.5 comp% 1 td 1 int 1 sack 44.1 rating
carson palmer in the 4th quarter 2011
11-26 168 yds 42.3 comp % 0 tds 4 ints 1 sack 24.7 rating
as you can see this isnt very good. Just sp we can appreciate the value of clutch qb play lest take a look at Jc’s numbers. it will give us a feel for why losing our qb is the biggest reason for the recent struggles, and disprove the notion that palmer is some magic bullet instant upgrade.
Jc on 3rd down 2010
54-102 756 yds 52.9 comp% 6 tds 2 ints 14 sacks 88.5 rating
( on 4th down he was 5-6 1 td 0 picks for a ridiculous 145.1 rating)
Jc in the 4th quarter 2010
59-94 756 yds 6.8 comp% 4 tds 1 int 5 sacks 97.7 rating
in overtime 1-1 47 yds 118. rating
Jc on 3rd down 2011
27-48 303 yds 56.3 comp % 2tds 0 ints 1 sack 89.2 rating
Jc in the 4th quarter 2011
24-41 404 yds 58.5 comp % 4 tds 2 ints 0 sack 104.1 rating
This clearly illustrates that Jc was money in the clutch and palmer has big shoes to fill. lets hope he can at the least come close.
This also disproves the myth of the instant upgrade theory as jc was clearly better in critical situations.
But if palmer falters and Jc comes back healthy can hu jack go back to him? Breaking that collar bone has had bigger impact then most want to acknowledge.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:37 pm
Hue needs to go back to the basics
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Agreed with CJL!
If you can’t beat teams like KC & Denver with talent alone, you’ve got some serious roster moves to make.
…and I’m not talking about the little guys like Derek Hagan, Bruce Davis, Ron Parker & Jerome Boyd being axed off the active roster
November 7th, 2011 at 12:37 pm
Guys,
I THINK Hue didn’t play certain players against the Donkey’s because he didn’t think they had a chance at beating us.
He was looking ahead to SD plain and simple.
HUE REALLY NEEDS TO START FOCUSING ON THE TASK AT HAND!
November 7th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
jasoup wouldnt dream of trying those td passes…
November 7th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
89706Raider Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
Unfortunately, Jason Campbell is still wondering to himself, “how’d he do that?” of the passes Palmer nailed right where they had to be to Reece and to Ford for the TDs.
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you must be new or not paying attention
we have seen those passes from jc. he hit reece on the same play for a td vs seattle, he hit ford last year several times down the sideline, and dhb and moore this year.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
HUE REALLY NEEDS TO START FOCUSING ON THE TASK AT HAND!
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Amen! That goes for the players as well!
November 7th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
No sh!t Sherlock tell us something we don’t know!
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Seymour Bush Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 12:29 pm
The issue I have with yesterday is we lost the 2nd half of that game 31-7. That is an ass beating.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
If you compare out team with Parcells coached teams, (not that I like that offenseive style) you see teams that once they got a lead, even a field goal, they would revert to their PHYSICALITY and pound the ball at the other teams.
They would even run three running plays in a row and expect to punt, just to run clock and smack the opposition’s defence.
On Defense they would think long term–play a whole game, NOT just play to get the HIGHLIGHT.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
1052.89706Raider Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
Unfortunately, Jason Campbell is still wondering to himself, “how’d he do that?” of the passes Palmer nailed right where they had to be to Reece and to Ford for the TDs. Hopefully, the interception thing will improve as the QB and receivers get into synch. I’m still not on Palmer’s bandwagon, but Campbell could try those two passes yesterday for a month and if he got within a foot or two of target, it’s simply be luck.
On the Reece naysayers… I think the guy adds more in versatility than he lacks in blocking.
All of those things aside, the Raiders need someone on the teammate level to become absolutley intolerant of lackluster play. I once read where Keith Richards was that guy with the Rolling Stones. He let his band mates know it if they were giving poor performances. Rich Gannon was the last guy with the Raiders to take that leadership role. Players expect the coach to reem them when necessary, but it’s collective peer pressure that raises the levels of all. This up and down crap needs to stop. This team has shown its capabilities at times. The problem is not one of occasional flashes of greatness but instead it is one of bearing down, being held accountable by one’s peers, and playing steady, solid, every day football at a level at which one is capable.
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Easy now, easy!
I will give Palmer his props on some of the throws he made to Reece, but JC was making those throws to Reece as well. If anyone he was in tune with it was Reece. Keep it real baby!
Palmer is more of a gun slinger than JC but gun slingers will get you killed in a shoot out as well.
Nice throw to Ford in the nedzone! Palmer can make some great passes but he can also make some great fuk ups when he should be protecting the ball.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
“we have seen those passes from jc. he hit reece on the same play for a td vs seattle, he hit ford last year several times down the sideline, and dhb and moore this year.”
Have we seen JC win a game where the defense gave up 300 yards in rushing?
NO WE HAVE NOT!!
Stop reaching if JC would have been in the game the results would be the same A LOSS!!
November 7th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
Marcel Reece scored a TD and recovered Ford’s fumble
anybody seen ROG ???
November 7th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
i remember that play it was 8 yards out of bounds…
November 7th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 12:25 pm
Judging palmer?
What do you mean? Im saying that the qb play is the biggest issue in our back to back losses.
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Coaching was the biggest factor in back to back losses. That team was not prepared for the Cheats, and I wrote four days before the game, that Dungver was going to run Tebow, and to make Tebow beat you with his arm, not his legs. Well, we looked like we had no idea who Tebow was yesterday, more or less how to stop him.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:42 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
Marcel Reece scored a TD and recovered Ford’s fumble
anybody seen ROG ???
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He also said the Cheats were going to be 6-2. Weak sauce.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:42 pm
1059.olinesux Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
jasoup wouldnt dream of trying those td passes…
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Bull $#!t! He has made those passes.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
Tonga had some nice blocks as well.
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RaiderRockstar Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
Marcel Reece scored a TD and recovered Ford’s fumble
anybody seen ROG ???
November 7th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
The thing about this team is that the Oline we have can impose their physicality on defenses.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 5:59 am
Meanwhile, most Raider fans are probably pro qu33r. After all, Oakland is just across the bay from the biggest h0m0 populated place in the U.S. – San Fran
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Homophobe much? Popular myth that’s been exposed to the narrow minded, such as yourself.
Actually SF doesn’t even make the top 15. It gets mentioned because it has the coolest spot to meet up, The Castro. http://www.advocate.com/Print_Issue/Travel/Gayest_Cities_in_America/
November 7th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
MistaBrown Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
Tonga had some nice blocks as well.
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RaiderRockstar Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
Marcel Reece scored a TD and recovered Ford’s fumble
anybody seen ROG ???
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Those blocks dont come anywhere near what Reece does though, respectfully.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:45 pm
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November 7th, 2011 at 12:45 pm
cantbell has not and if he did they were high and intended for the 5 yard checkdown…hue started running guys behind them just in case….
November 7th, 2011 at 12:45 pm
guys admitting that palmers picks really hurt the team doesnt mean your against palmer or for Jc its just fact
November 7th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
” It gets mentioned because it has the coolest spot to meet up, The Castro.”
Spoken like a man who knows this personally!
November 7th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
Sullivan,
I figured if anybody would weigh in on that comment, it would be you …
November 7th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 12:29 pm
The issue I have with yesterday is we lost the 2nd half of that game 31-7. That is an ass beating.
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Thanks Oakglenn. Knew it had to be something.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:47 pm
What bugs me is the 4th down after Carson’s dive came up a little short… Punt? What happened to the ballsy play calling Hue?
Were not bully enough to get 8 inches?
Punt return for TD is what happened.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:47 pm
“guys admitting that palmers picks really hurt the team doesnt mean your against palmer or for Jc its just fact”
Ignoring the fact that we gave up 300 yards rushing and over 100 penalty yards will not make your blame on Palmer for losing the game legitimate!
November 7th, 2011 at 12:48 pm
No word on DMC but RNS says hes out against SD…
November 7th, 2011 at 12:48 pm
hue is too busy ironing his suits for the interviews
November 7th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
1081. Go for it when we’ve sucked at it the last 2 times and with Satele out…
November 7th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
VittorioTafur Boss felt great, “surprised” he didn’t play in offensive sets Sun
about 1 hour ago
November 7th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
Yeah pretty pathetic effort yesterday. Worst game of the year. Penalties and the damn run defense killed us. What makes it even worse was Kelly saying they practised against that option read all week and they still couldn’t stop it. No discipline on that defense.
Thursday’s game is a must win in the sense that we have got to turn it around immediately to salvage this season. Can’t win playing like this!!!
November 7th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 12:25 pm
I am just so angry about the loss!
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Can someone give this Mary a hug? Hey, we had a bet. You bet the Raiders would win, or you leave for a month. Raiders lost, badly, in the most ugly of fashions. You don’t post for a month. Get out of here.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
“We’re not a very intelligent football team right now,” Jackson said
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Hue’s not to blame?
November 7th, 2011 at 12:51 pm
I keep looking at PFT for the “Bresnahan is out in Oakland” headline….
Damn…
November 7th, 2011 at 12:51 pm
VittorioTafur Palmer “not sure” why Heyward-Bey didn’t play more, says he and Boss were at bye-week workouts with Palmer
about 1 hour ago
November 7th, 2011 at 12:51 pm
This team could just a little Parcells sytle, only if we two score lead tho.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:51 pm
988.raiderjhawk Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 12:05 pm
I would like to add however that if CP had the same numbers he had yesterday but we won. The song in here wouldn’t sound the same as it does in here today.
People would be saying that we finally have the QB that we’ve been searching for all these years.
With JC we had to have a running game, with CP we don’t. Either way we need to run the ball!
I like JC and what he did for us, I even hope there is a chance that he’ll be back next year as backup. But when was the last time JC threw for 330 yrds, 3td’s?
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What you fail to realize is that you cannot win games in the NFL throwing to the other team 3 times a game, and only 6 quarters at that….stop Dreaming.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:52 pm
Well Tonga is a FB his job is to block so not sure what your problem is.
Mentally retarded?
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# DeuceDeuce Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
MistaBrown Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
Tonga had some nice blocks as well.
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RaiderRockstar Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
Marcel Reece scored a TD and recovered Ford’s fumble
anybody seen ROG ???
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Those blocks dont come anywhere near what Reece does though, respectfully.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:52 pm
“Get out of here.”
Tell me where you work and I will leave!
November 7th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
Boss felt great, “surprised” he didn’t play in offensive sets Sunday
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909,
Kevin Boss just earned his way into Hue’s doghouse, like Hagan did.
Wont be surprised if he’s inactive against SD, because Hue wants to take a look at Ausberry (sarcasm implied)
November 7th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
95.7 FM. Awesome 49er talk. About how they match up against Green Bay. How disciplined the team is. How the head coach is in control. How the players are stepping up. Pretty much the opposite of what’s going on in Oakland.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:54 pm
MistaBrown Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 12:52 pm
Well Tonga is a FB his job is to block so not sure what your problem is.
Mentally retarded?
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# DeuceDeuce Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
MistaBrown Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
Tonga had some nice blocks as well.
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RaiderRockstar Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
Marcel Reece scored a TD and recovered Ford’s fumble
anybody seen ROG ???
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Those blocks dont come anywhere near what Reece does though, respectfully.
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Didnt understand what I said.
Obviously.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:54 pm
OakGlenn666Bush, you know darn well MR doesn’t work, either do you.
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# Silverandblack666 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 12:52 pm
“Get out of here.”
Tell me where you work and I will leave!
November 7th, 2011 at 12:54 pm
Palmer “not sure” why Heyward-Bey didn’t play more, says he and Boss were at bye-week workouts with Palmer
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They aren’t Hue’s guys – obviously
Al Davis was a better talent evaluator than Coach Jackson, right Sully?
November 7th, 2011 at 12:55 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 12:52 pm
“Get out of here.”
Tell me where you work and I will leave!
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I knew you wouldn’t man up, you little girl. You take a bet, and welch, and now want address of where I work, and I’m expected to believe you won’t welch once I give it to you? What I’ve proven is you’re a liar. Which means nothing you say can be believed. Believe this. I own your azz, and you just anointed me your God.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:55 pm
Brownstains I clean toilets at the Taco Bell, its common knowledge!
November 7th, 2011 at 12:55 pm
Darren Sharper…said it for months. We need this guy.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
Jerrymcd Raiders penalty breakdown vs. Denver: Offense 9-for-60; defense 4-for-50; special teams 2-for-20.
about 2 hours ago
November 7th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
As for PFT report on Hue, everyplayer in the league should know that they are always at risk of being cut.
The only good thing about the post-game stuff, is that Hue is back to talking about basics again, stopping the run, reducing penalty. For a while there it was too crazy with all the roster spots and necessary hype.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:57 pm
Cut Giordano. Immediately.
His biggest value is special teams, and that aint working.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:57 pm
Ddwight, sure you can. As long as your Defense does it’s job.
I don’t like the picks either but our D flat gave up yesterday. They thought it would be a cake walk and it turned out to be a war. They quit.
Who is actually surprised that Palmer is throwing picks? Is this something new? NOPE, exactly why I wasn’t jumping up and down when we signed him.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:57 pm
Rivers, Tolbert, Jackson & Gates were all on fire against Green Bay yesterday…
Anybody looking forward to playing against them in 3 days after seeing how we pi$$ed away games against KC & DEN?
SD also had 4 sacks on Rodgers, who has the mobility of Michael Vick compared to Carson Palmer
It’s not even funny how much better GB’s Defense is than ours.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:58 pm
“It gets mentioned because it has the coolest spot to meet up, The Castro.”
MR’s first gay post of the day.
“I own your azz”
That was his second attempt at showing us his homosexual tenancies.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:58 pm
new post!!!
November 7th, 2011 at 12:58 pm
sully, go play with misty eyes and debo, there 49er fans like you….
November 7th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 12:52 pm
“Get out of here.”
Tell me where you work and I will leave!
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You know what? I changed my mind. I will tell you. I work at Wendy’s, 4280 Northgate Bl, Sacramento, rotating hours. Don’t care what you think about it, that’s it, and now let’s see if you do what you said you would do.
If you don’t, everyone will know that forever I am your Daddy.
November 7th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
1064.CJ Legend 34 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
1052.89706Raider Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
Unfortunately, Jason Campbell is still wondering to himself, “how’d he do that?” of the passes Palmer nailed right where they had to be to Reece and to Ford for the TDs. Hopefully, the interception thing will improve as the QB and receivers get into synch. I’m still not on Palmer’s bandwagon, but Campbell could try those two passes yesterday for a month and if he got within a foot or two of target, it’s simply be luck.
On the Reece naysayers… I think the guy adds more in versatility than he lacks in blocking.
All of those things aside, the Raiders need someone on the teammate level to become absolutley intolerant of lackluster play. I once read where Keith Richards was that guy with the Rolling Stones. He let his band mates know it if they were giving poor performances. Rich Gannon was the last guy with the Raiders to take that leadership role. Players expect the coach to reem them when necessary, but it’s collective peer pressure that raises the levels of all. This up and down crap needs to stop. This team has shown its capabilities at times. The problem is not one of occasional flashes of greatness but instead it is one of bearing down, being held accountable by one’s peers, and playing steady, solid, every day football at a level at which one is capable.
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Easy now, easy!
I will give Palmer his props on some of the throws he made to Reece, but JC was making those throws to Reece as well. If anyone he was in tune with it was Reece. Keep it real baby!
Palmer is more of a gun slinger than JC but gun slingers will get you killed in a shoot out as well.
Nice throw to Ford in the nedzone! Palmer can make some great passes but he can also make some great fuk ups when he should be protecting the ball.
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I’ll agree with your gunslinger observation. That mentatiliy can kill you for sure. I thought the two above referenced passes were tight and right, though, tigher than I recall JC throwing.
However, the bulk of my point has to do with very serious problems at the team level – Commitment to Excellence, as the well-worn Raider cliche goes. Those are just words to some of these youngsters. If it’s convenient, they wear it. If it’s not, they collect their paycheck and let opponents run all over them. These boys need to step up to being men, become personally accountable for their miss deeds, and make commitments as individuals and as a team. A person only SUCKS as long as he is willing to accept himself as sucking. Once he personally accepts that sucking is not acceptable, he then finds it hard to be around others who have not seen the light, and invariable he tries to bring the light to his associates. It’s gotta start somewhere, or we’ll continue to see these up and down performances.
November 7th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
WoW, Hue wants to “win now” ? …… Win Thursday or you lose my support.
November 7th, 2011 at 1:22 pm
Agree with every one else that Chuck B needs to be fired now. Al Saunders should be given the playing calling duties and Hue put his foot on Chuck B to straighten up the D. Too many over paid D players whom are under achievers including Huff. Maybe should try finding some front D players from practice squad or where ever and take Tk and Seymour off the front line for a while to see if D gets an improvement. TK and Seymour are not giving us any thing but penalties and setting our team back. Kevin Boss should be used a lot more on offense.
November 7th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
I’m a Seymour fan but was dismayed when I saw him commit that personal foul facemask penalty. It was simply a dirty play. Beyond that, it was a dumb move that cost the team. Those kind of moves need to stop. Play hard and kick the crap out of them when you can but don’t do stupid schit that cause pesonal foul 15 yard penalties. Curry’s last minute shot on Tebow was right on the line between legal and a Personal foul 15 yard penalty. When in doubt, play smart & error on the side of no penalty. Careless attitudes cost the team. To bad they don’t cost the player – then they might stop.
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