Boss not sure why he was a spectator
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, November 7th, 2011 at 12:56 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Subbing for Steve Corkran today . . .
Raiders coach Hue Jackson says very little happens to his team that they don’t hear about from him first.
Kevin Boss apparently didn’t get the message when it came to his playing time Sunday in a 38-24 loss to the Denver Broncos.
Boss was essentially a spectator, playing only on special teams.
“I was surprised,’’ Boss said Monday. “Coach’s decision.’’
It’s been difficult for Boss to gain much traction as a Raider after signing a four-year, $16 million free agent deal after Zach Miller signed with the Seattle Seahawks. He missed the first two games of the season with a knee strain and has just eight catches for 160 yards, with a 35-yard touchdown reception coming from Shane Lechler on a fake field goal attempt.
Coach Hue Jackson said Boss didn’t play because the Raiders used a lot of formations with three wide receivers and two running backs, although that doesn’t account for having Brandon Myers, the backup tight end, on the field.
Boss sustained a concussion against Kansas City but had been cleared medically to play and had practiced all week leading up to the Denver game.
“I’ve got a lot of confidence in myself and I feel like I can help this team, but that’s something I can’t do when I’m not playing,’’ Boss said. “I think things will work itself out and I feel confident that I’ll get back out there and continue to do what I’ve done in the past and that’s make plays and be a solid tight end.’’
The absences of Boss and wide receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey, who played sparingly and had only one pass thrown his way, were notable. For what it’s worth, quarterback Carson Palmer said both players stuck around and worked on Thursday and Friday during the bye week to get timing with their new quarterback.
“They were here just as much as anybody else,’’ Palmer said.
Jackson said after the game Heyward-Bey simply wasn’t involved in a lot of the formations the Raiders used against Denver.
“I’m not sure of any specific reason,’’ Palmer said. “Sometimes that’s just the way things work.’’
Heyward-Bey was not present during the Raiders’ open locker room session.
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November 7th, 2011 at 12:57 pm
We not sure either.
Hue?
November 7th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
Hue’s gettin to big for his britches
November 7th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
Why are the Raiders the only team in the NFL who cannot stop the option offense? Ya know… the one only college teams run ’cause it doesn’t work in the NFL.
Why?
November 7th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
Whatever you gave up 300 yards rushing to a weak team.
November 7th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
Myers > Boss?
Not Likely.
November 7th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 12:52 pm
“Get out of here.”
Tell me where you work and I will leave!
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You know what? I changed my mind. I will tell you. I work at Wendy’s, 4280 Northgate Bl, Sacramento, rotating hours. Don’t care what you think about it, that’s it, and now let’s see if you do what you said you would do.
If you don’t, everyone will know that forever I am your Daddy.
November 7th, 2011 at 1:02 pm
What’s going on here with our team?
November 7th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
Get ready for the implosions boys! The writings already on the wall.
November 7th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
Not only is Huellywood incompetent, he’s a liar….
November 7th, 2011 at 1:04 pm
“It gets mentioned because it has the coolest spot to meet up, The Castro.”
MR’s first gay post of the day.
“I own your azz”
That was his second attempt at showing us his homosexual tenancies.
November 7th, 2011 at 1:04 pm
Tebow > Bresnahan
November 7th, 2011 at 1:04 pm
the only reason bey didnt play? Hue wanted his slow as TJ in there for 1 catch and three drops….guy couldn’t run away from an ollineman…
November 7th, 2011 at 1:05 pm
DHB <—-DHP as in pissed…
November 7th, 2011 at 1:05 pm
Jackson said after the game Heyward-Bey simply wasn’t involved in a lot of the formations the Raiders used against Denver.
“I’m not sure of any specific reason,’’ Palmer said. “Sometimes that’s just the way things work.’’
Heyward-Bey was not present during the Raiders’ open locker room session.
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Will DHB get the knife this week so that Hue Jackson can bring in Peter Warrick or Tab Perry?
Jerry Mac, please also check the parking lot for Reggie Kelly or Matt Schobel. Thanks!
November 7th, 2011 at 1:05 pm
McClain Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 1:04 pm
Tebow > Bresnahan
++++++++++
ROFLMAO
College Option > Oakland DCO
November 7th, 2011 at 1:06 pm
Let’s see, Housh signed DHB and Boss not playing but this has nothing to do with CP.
Tell us another one Hue.
November 7th, 2011 at 1:06 pm
There is no Wendy’s at the fake address you just gave me.
November 7th, 2011 at 1:06 pm
Sullivan you would have been right here talking the same old BS if the Raiders had won and don’t act like you wouldn’t have. You have no credibility with anyone here I’m sure.
Just yesterday you said you weren’t even a Raiders fan, you just liked the idea of them being good again. You also said you were done with this team, why are you here?
You can’t stay outta here, you have no where else to go. Most of us are die hards, we’ve stayed with them through the good and bad. You get outta here you fake f*ck.
November 7th, 2011 at 1:07 pm
Maybe I’m just being optimistic, but with all that’s gone on the last couple of weeks, maybe we’ve hit bottom here and the shock of these last two losses and the reports of unrest in the locker room and players starting to question Hue. And maybe now’s the time everyone settles down and we come back with a vengeance on Thursday night.
It’ll be up to Hue to pull this back together and get this team back in the right direction.
November 7th, 2011 at 1:07 pm
Can anyone give a solid answer?
Are the raiders imploding?
November 7th, 2011 at 1:07 pm
HueKnows Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 1:06 pm
Let’s see, Housh signed DHB and Boss not playing but this has nothing to do with CP.
Tell us another one Hue.
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DHB doesnt make the catch Housh made. Just saying.
November 7th, 2011 at 1:09 pm
Sounds like optimism to me Chris in NY. I don’t know if I have that much blind faith.
November 7th, 2011 at 1:10 pm
This SHOULD be the WR rotation
WR – Ford / Moore / Murphy
WR – DHB / Moore / Murphy
Slot – Housh / Chaz/ Moore
November 7th, 2011 at 1:10 pm
DeuceDeuce Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 1:07 pm
HueKnows Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 1:06 pm
Let’s see, Housh signed DHB and Boss not playing but this has nothing to do with CP.
Tell us another one Hue.
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DHB doesnt make the catch Housh made. Just saying.
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I guess your right. No way DHB makes one catch during the game.
But I guess he’d be able to drop 3 just like Housh. Just saying.
November 7th, 2011 at 1:11 pm
Imploding implies a turmoil from within, I would say after this week, yes…Chris, a true fan and forever the optimist….
November 7th, 2011 at 1:11 pm
Odell Thurman coming in for a visit?
November 7th, 2011 at 1:11 pm
R8dercain Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 1:07 pm
Can anyone give a solid answer?
Are the raiders imploding?
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I don’t think so Bruh however, we are reeling since the loss of our 2 leaders….
We will bounce back…
November 7th, 2011 at 1:11 pm
DMC OUT AGAINST SD?
http://www.raidernationstation.com/exclusives
November 7th, 2011 at 1:11 pm
Lots of odd choices getting made the last two weeks. It’s times like these you wish Al was here to reign in the rookie coach.
November 7th, 2011 at 1:13 pm
Agreed with your lineup DueceDeuce. I think the same thing.
November 7th, 2011 at 1:14 pm
After dropping a few easy ones against Kansas Pity & Dungver, I won’t be satisfied unless we beat SD & Minny the next 2 weeks in away games.
Adrian Peterson is a beast and SD is the team to beat in this division
November 7th, 2011 at 1:16 pm
back to work – later gents!
let me know when Hue does his usual “Hue Jackson lost this football game, alright?” speech …
followed by a “we were prepared, we just didn’t play well. we have to execute.”
November 7th, 2011 at 1:16 pm
MUST. WIN. THURSDAY. Please beat the dischargers and all will be forgiven.
November 7th, 2011 at 1:16 pm
Housh plays slot receiver, catches stuff in the middle of the field. DHB plays exclusively left side receiver. Out routs, come backs and streaks are the only routes he usually runs. Housh has nothing to do with Boss or DHB’s playing time.
November 7th, 2011 at 1:16 pm
“Sullivan you would have been right here talking the same old BS if the Raiders had won and don’t act like you wouldn’t have. You have no credibility with anyone here I’m sure.
Just yesterday you said you weren’t even a Raiders fan, you just liked the idea of them being good again. You also said you were done with this team, why are you here?
You can’t stay outta here, you have no where else to go. Most of us are die hards, we’ve stayed with them through the good and bad. You get outta here you fake f*ck.”
Post of the YEAR!!!
November 7th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
CABLE and GRADS > JaCarson and HUE …
November 7th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
Such hypocrisy from Huellywood on not playing hurt players…Let’s wait for McFadden to get healthy, because we won’t need him to beat Denver. I don’t like to put hurt players out there if there not 100%, hence no McClain, but let’s throw seabass out there at 70%. He needs a new publicity….
November 7th, 2011 at 1:19 pm
“I’ve got a lot of confidence in myself and I feel like I can help this team, but that’s something I can’t do when I’m not playing,’’ Boss said.
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Oh snap. Is that the sound of the wheels coming off?
November 7th, 2011 at 1:19 pm
I said it last week and I’ll say it again: Hue’s ego is writing checks his body can’t cash.
Someone needs to pull in the reigns on this guy.
START FOCUSING ON COACHING & SCHEME HUE. F’ING IDIOT!
November 7th, 2011 at 1:20 pm
Guys in locker roome sound restless. DHB bolts w/ no interview, Boss questioning playing time. Sound like unhappy campers?
November 7th, 2011 at 1:21 pm
The Ghost of Al Davis does not approve of recent events…
November 7th, 2011 at 1:21 pm
Nwr8r Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 1:16 pm
Housh plays slot receiver, catches stuff in the middle of the field. DHB plays exclusively left side receiver. Out routs, come backs and streaks are the only routes he usually runs. Housh has nothing to do with Boss or DHB’s playing time.
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The question was does CP have something to do with it
November 7th, 2011 at 1:22 pm
Stupid Raiders, they played with no heart in the second half. The players could care less, they get paid regard less the outcome, its us the fans who suffer. I would like to brag about my raiders, but they make it so hard. And don’t get me wrong, its raiders till I die, I got the logo tattooed on my right arm, I can’t help the deep rooted love I got for this team but damn, play with some heart, this team is stupid, they commit some stupid penaltys out there.
And Hue is limited on what he can do, he said in his presser, he wish he could fine players, he would love to threaten the players with benching them, but the backups are making the same mistakes. I could handle a loss but not to the donkeys. I lost 3 bets. My bro is a donkey fan. We had a bet that if the raiders swept the donks, he would wear my raiders jersey every Sunday till the Superbowl, and vice versa. We had a similar bet last year. Was looking forward to it again. I made a bet with to coworkers, loser wears the other teams jersey. I got to wear two Broncos jerseys when I return to work. Praise God I had today off cuz of jury duty, and tomorrow is my day off. So it gives me a couple days before I got to wear the ugly jerseys
November 7th, 2011 at 1:22 pm
I hope Amy Trask chews Hue a new backside.
November 7th, 2011 at 1:24 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 1:04 pm
“It gets mentioned because it has the coolest spot to meet up, The Castro.”
That was his second attempt at showing us his homosexual tenancies.
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Of course I mentioned the Castro. It’s where you and I first met.
November 7th, 2011 at 1:26 pm
Absolute power corrupts absolutely HUE JAX ! We need a GM FAST !
November 7th, 2011 at 1:26 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 1:22 pm
I hope Amy Trask chews Hue a new backside.
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You win Dumb Post of the Day. Amy hasn’t chewed out anyone, ever. She’s a token rep, supposedly Al’s mouthpiece, except he’s never let her open her mouth. At one point she had no title, or responsibilities, so they made her in charge of ticket sales. Immediately the Raiders dropped to the worst fan attendance in the league. If you weren’t so confused, Oakglenn, you would know that.
November 7th, 2011 at 1:26 pm
Just last week the Lions laughed in Tebow’s face and mocked ‘em before, during, and after the game, saying
“That’s your Quarterback?!? Seriously?”
And what do the Raiders do? Make ‘em look like Touchdown Jesus, naturally…
Any NFL team who gets the option run all over ‘em like they’re the University of North Central Florida A&M State Community College School for the Blind, Deaf, & Dumb should consider seceding from the league.
Seriously. The headlines should read “Raiders Next Team to Join the SEC.” There, not stopping the option offense is allowable. In the NFL? You can’t be serious. When has the option ever worked in the NFL? And I mean in the days of color TV and facemasks. When?
November 7th, 2011 at 1:28 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eyFiClAzq8
Six o’clock – TV hour. Don’t get caught in foreign tower. Slash and burn,
return, listen to yourself churn. Lock him in uniform and book burning,
blood letting. Every motive escalate. Automotive incinerate. Light a candle,
light a motive. Step down, step down. Watch a heel crush, crush. Uh oh,
this means no fear – cavalier. Renegade and steer clear! A tournament,
a tournament, a tournament of lies. Offer me solutions, offer me alternatives
and I decline.
It’s the end of the world as we know it.
It’s the end of the world as we know it.
It’s the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine.
November 7th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 1:16 pm
Post of the YEAR!!!
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You are not allowed to post. If you state MR is a God, and I am his servant, I’ll think about letting you post. You accepted the bet. I won. You lost. You look like a fool. Now is when you prove you are one.
November 7th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
HueKnows Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 1:21 pm
Nwr8r Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 1:16 pm
Housh plays slot receiver, catches stuff in the middle of the field. DHB plays exclusively left side receiver. Out routs, come backs and streaks are the only routes he usually runs. Housh has nothing to do with Boss or DHB’s playing time.
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The question was does CP have something to do with it
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I’m sure he does because of his familiarity with TJ. 8 practices with a new team after sitting on the beach for 11 months isn’t exactly ideal. He’s not going to be in “mid season form”. He’s played with the guy and works out with him. Hue’s been forced to change his offense mid year on the fly. It’s gonna take time for the O to jell. Defense is the big concern. Just hope the locker room holds together.
November 7th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
I’m a Seymour fan but was dismayed when I saw him commit that personal foul facemask penalty. It was simply a dirty play. Beyond that, it was a dumb move that cost the team. Those kind of moves need to stop. Play hard and kick the crap out of them when you can but don’t do stupid schit that cause pesonal foul 15 yard penalties. Curry’s last minute shot on Tebow was right on the line between legal and a Personal foul 15 yard penalty. When in doubt, play smart & error on the side of no penalty. Careless attitudes cost the team. To bad they don’t cost the player – then they might stop.
November 7th, 2011 at 1:30 pm
sully, you won’t ever learn. Always the problem and never the solution. Why can’t you bring value here. You really must have some deep rooted instabilities within your life to continue on the self destructive path. 666’s question should be answered by you. Why are you here?????
November 7th, 2011 at 1:30 pm
The dumbest looking people on the planet, besides 666, right now? the 63,000 who chanted Tebow Sucks, just before halftime. Never has a serving of crow choked so many.
November 7th, 2011 at 1:31 pm
MR
nobody reads your posts.
November 7th, 2011 at 1:31 pm
oh no I hate to say this but something stinks. last year after six quarters Jc got benched. this year after 6 games he gets hurt but tossed aside after going 12-7 as the starter.
quarters into the palmer experiment has been a monumental flop complete with a hail storm of turn overs, and now griping in the locker room.
Hu did you fracture the team by signing palmer, and undermining your own message of commitment and hard work?
November 7th, 2011 at 1:34 pm
raiderjhawk Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 1:06 pm
Sullivan you would have been right here talking the same old BS if the Raiders had won and don’t act like you wouldn’t have. You have no credibility with anyone here I’m sure.
Just yesterday you said you weren’t even a Raiders fan, you just liked the idea of them being good again. You also said you were done with this team, why are you here?
You can’t stay outta here, you have no where else to go. Most of us are die hards, we’ve stayed with them through the good and bad. You get outta here you fake f*ck.
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Raiderjhawk,
You are a nobody. You just signed on here. You have no cred. You need to ask me in advance to just speak to me.
November 7th, 2011 at 1:35 pm
Its clear that Hue asked Palmer: Who do you feel comfy throwing to the most? he said: Ford, Moore and TJ …. odd men out were benched.
November 7th, 2011 at 1:35 pm
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I’m sure he does because of his familiarity with TJ. 8 practices with a new team after sitting on the beach for 11 months isn’t exactly ideal. He’s not going to be in “mid season form”. He’s played with the guy and works out with him. Hue’s been forced to change his offense mid year on the fly. It’s gonna take time for the O to jell. Defense is the big concern. Just hope the locker room holds together.
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Point being Hue said CP had nothing to do with Housh and DHB and Boss just didn’t fit in the scheme. And if he was not going to be in mid-season form we should have never signed him because IT IS MID Season. There really isn’t to much time left for jelling. And yes the D looks like sh*t too.
November 7th, 2011 at 1:35 pm
Hit bottom Chris, sorry I beg to differ, I think hue is losing the team. Several indications first the whole “coach” routine doesn’t sit well with me, he is an opportunist, loves the media and being on TV, sorry we don’t need that. Also the pft article says it all the players are not buying into to powertrip. He literally benches boss and dhb, I ask again what coach would in his right mind bench his best receiver? The team quit yesterday ( defense) hue is like I said-huedini, I am not buying into his garbage anymore. And please tell me what his credentials are? Play calling that’s it. You can already telling this is blowing up.
November 7th, 2011 at 1:35 pm
“Coach Hue Jackson said Boss didn’t play because the Raiders used a lot of formations with three wide receivers and two running backs, although that doesn’t account for having Brandon Myers, the backup tight end, on the field”.
Reading between the lines this yells me that HueJack wants to go for the endzone on every play. This is faulty thinking and needs to change. There’s nothing wrong with using the tight end to continually move the chins, control the ball, burn up the clock and then score a TD. Boss should be in there…PERIOD as TJ would say. It’s almost like Huejack has lost is mind and is on a real ego trip. Power corrupts. Absolute powe corrupts absolutely. These are words to consider HuJack. if you want a real challenge go take on Bresnahan and get the defense squared away.
November 7th, 2011 at 1:35 pm
something must have happned behind closed doors, because there is no reason for dhb and boss to be healthy scratches.
we need our leader on offense dhb dmac and jc. these guys were all embattled and maligned through out their careers. they banded together and worked hard to improve their own games and the team. this sacrifice set the tone for our 4-2 start and forged a brotherhood of leadership from our version of the triplets.
With one crack of the collar bone and the ring of a phone it was all undone….possibly
November 7th, 2011 at 1:35 pm
56.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 1:31 pm
oh no I hate to say this but something stinks. last year after six quarters Jc got benched. this year after 6 games he gets hurt but tossed aside after going 12-7 as the starter.
quarters into the palmer experiment has been a monumental flop complete with a hail storm of turn overs, and now griping in the locker room.
Hu did you fracture the team by signing palmer, and undermining your own message of commitment and hard work?
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Hue totally screwed things up. Now we have Kyle Boller reloaded for a 1st and second round pick. But hey he can make all the throws JC can’t especially those LASERS to the other team … LOL
November 7th, 2011 at 1:36 pm
Raiders have led the league in penalties for 16 str8 seasons lol
November 7th, 2011 at 1:37 pm
Boss is a great blocker and has great hands and runs great route, he needs to be included in offense as much as possible. The D needs fixing quickly to straighten up those divas. Use practice squad or bring in some one and try out two other players in place of TK and Seymour to see if our defense can do better at pass rush and run defense, these two are killing our team.
November 7th, 2011 at 1:37 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 1:06 pm
There is no Wendy’s at the fake address you just gave me.
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Hit a 2 by mistake, should have been 4180 Northgate Bl.
(916) 925-7044
We’ll see you in a month. Have a nice Thanksgiving.
November 7th, 2011 at 1:38 pm
The good ship Autumn Wind lost it’s anchor with the passing of Al Davis. And now has a captain sailing with no control of the rudder. Mutiny is at hand.
November 7th, 2011 at 1:38 pm
Mark Davis, Amy Task need to get input from wolf and madden now, it will be for next year, but I think hue just made his own bed, he killed this team.
November 7th, 2011 at 1:38 pm
Hey, the good news is we can reload next year with a low first round pick. Awesome. Oh wait. We don’t have one.
November 7th, 2011 at 1:39 pm
Hue is just doing his job and its not his fault we lost the greatest owner in professional sports. Its harder on him to have to spend more time on personnel decisions. He doesnt deserve the anger for that. John Madden and other guys are around. The hiring of a GM is on ownership’s shoulders, not Hue Jackson’s. We will never again have an owner/GM/coach with all the wisdom and power of Al Davis. It sucks to lose Al but there is nobody to blame for it.
Now deciding who plays and how much, that’s going to be on Hue and the other coaches (Hue is not a defensive coach). He makes that decision even after we hire a GM. I’m as surprised as the rest of you on the DHB and Boss benching. But it wasnt Calvin Johnson and Antonio Gates that got benched. DHB and Boss are good, not great. The loss to Denver is more on the defense and special teams.
If DHB and Boss stay on the bench and the offense doesnt click, then it will be fair to critic Hue. Because the offense didnt lose this game and because hiring a GM is on ownership, I’m not ready to jump off the Hue bandwagon yet. If we continue to lose and the offense doesnt come around with Palmer and company, that’s when its time to direct my anger at Hue Jackson.
November 7th, 2011 at 1:39 pm
Qodrn…
yo, why arent I on the winners-list?
http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2011/11/04/most-raiders-gush-about-broncos-qb-tebow/comment-page-12/#comment-703030
November 7th, 2011 at 1:39 pm
Hue “The Huckster” Jackwad needs to pull his head out before he gets stuck on the “Rooney Rule” carousel for the rest of his career. He’s got this one chance that he’s lucky to have gotten, after which his agent will be banging on Arena League doors to get him a gig.
I’m sure that a new GM will look at this season and decide on a different path if he doesn’t shape up.
November 7th, 2011 at 1:40 pm
R I P Raider organization. We hardly knew you.
November 7th, 2011 at 1:41 pm
OK for them to be on the bench? You must be on crack! What kind of an example does that set for the players, sorry not buying that.
November 7th, 2011 at 1:41 pm
hue “lets wait on dmc we can beat sd without him….im a genious.”
November 7th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
Considering all this team has faced this season we are still in position to win the Division.
4-4
4-4
4-4
3-5
Carson’s legit and McClain will be back to take over for Blackstock
November 7th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
Sullivan still here, hey I am waiting for you here in new York little girl! Lets talk about the team and the implosion that is rippling through the team now
November 7th, 2011 at 1:44 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
The dumbest looking people on the planet, besides 666, right now? the 63,000 who chanted Tebow Sucks, just before halftime. Never has a serving of crow choked so many.
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I believe they call that karma.
I don’t like Tebow either, but that was an embarrassing moment for the team, the league, and humanity in general.
The next good dose of karma will be taking this team away from that cesspool town a second time.
November 7th, 2011 at 1:44 pm
75.olinesux Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 1:41 pm
hue “lets wait on dmc we can beat sd without him….im a genious.”
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Given the short turn around and knowing SD would have to spenf ALOT of their limited and precious time preparing for him, yeah, that is a solid coaching move.
November 7th, 2011 at 1:44 pm
58-that isn’t clear at all.
November 7th, 2011 at 1:44 pm
1059.olinesux Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
jasoup wouldnt dream of trying those td passes…
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Or the picks. JC won SIX straight against the division. Palmer has thrown SIX picks in two straight losses vs. the AFC West. It’s idiotic comments like yours that make me HATE fantasy football!
November 7th, 2011 at 1:44 pm
DeuceDeuce Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 12:55 pm
Darren Sharper…said it for months. We need this guy.
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Hallelujah!!!! I said it too and nobody bit on it..
Dude may be old, but like Rod Woodson in his later years, knew where to position himself and made plays!!
November 7th, 2011 at 1:45 pm
I called they said no one named MR works there….they did say that they had to let a guy go recently because he was a pervert and was approaching young boys in the bathroom.
So I guess you were working there!
November 7th, 2011 at 1:47 pm
I agree, we are still in it. When this team fully-clicks we will be the best team in the division, clearly that has to happen by Thursday tho. McFadden or not the ball gets kicked off in 3 days. We has nobody to guard V-JAX, Gates and Floyd if healthy to go. Ryan Matthews is better than McGahee. Tolbert and company. They have talent. Rivers has been the weak link. Denver is over guys. Thursday is the biggest game of the year.
November 7th, 2011 at 1:47 pm
Doomsdayers, lmao. Without DMC this team is still better off than it has been since the Superbowl.
Jackson has made mistakes and has looked overwhelmed at times but all things considered he’s done well.
Can’t blame Hue because Darryl Blackstocj isn’t McClain and can’t blame Hue because our pass rusing DEs Wimbley, Moss and Scott can’t set the edge and bit on College fakes.
Gross…
November 7th, 2011 at 1:48 pm
He worked for Penn State?
November 7th, 2011 at 1:48 pm
What can make a struggling QB more comfortable than a a big TE who can run like Boss?
I don’t get it myself.
November 7th, 2011 at 1:48 pm
82. Sharper has one knee
November 7th, 2011 at 1:48 pm
The Raiders use to be a team that used the TE a lot….
Hue should be using high % passes to get The rust worked outta Palmer…
Some of Hues decisions are real head scratchers….. 15 penalties tells me this team doesn’t have the respect for a headcoach that they should… The question is, did Hue lose the teams respect… Did they quit or give up…. ?… I didn’t see a team yesterday that even cared …
Were gonna know by games end Thursday if this team still want to play football or just playout the schedule…If you gave a high school as many 1st downs due to penalties as the Raiders gave the Donks sooner or later they’re gonna score… And that’s exactly what happened….the defense gave Tebow a ton of free plays and first downs and our defense could stop them..
November 7th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
Couldn’t stop them
November 7th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
college qb watch ;ist
1.) robert griffin III ( hu jack get this guy please!!!)
2.)russel wilson
3.) ej manual
4.) geno smith
5.) teddy bridgewater
6.) jacory harris ( dramatic improvement from last year, not sure which one is the real him)
7.) tahj boyd
November 7th, 2011 at 1:50 pm
Well I’ll be at Thursday’s game at the Q. Can someone give me something to look forward to besides the hangover?
November 7th, 2011 at 1:51 pm
62.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 1:35 pm
something must have happned behind closed doors, because there is no reason for dhb and boss to be healthy scratches.
we need our leader on offense dhb dmac and jc. these guys were all embattled and maligned through out their careers. they banded together and worked hard to improve their own games and the team. this sacrifice set the tone for our 4-2 start and forged a brotherhood of leadership from our version of the triplets.
With one crack of the collar bone and the ring of a phone it was all undone….possibly
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Hated the move the day it happened. It just felt completely wrong. If it were a bargain-basement deal, it’s a little different. But to go all in on a player that has pretty much sucked the last few years and had just been the conductor on a 4-12 train just didn’t make sense to me. Couldn’t stand the way JC was treated with that ‘greatest trade in NFL history” remark. Had to rub a lot of the other players the wrong way too. And it can’t be denied that the Cincy is 10 times better without Palmer. The only upgrade that can be confirmed to date is that Cincy upgraded its QB position with Dalton over Palmer.
November 7th, 2011 at 1:51 pm
Aren’t outside LBs supposed to seal the edges?
November 7th, 2011 at 1:51 pm
GoodOle00 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 1:48 pm
82. Sharper has one knee
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Sharper’s 1 knee and 1 brain are better than Giordano with 6 knees and his brain.
November 7th, 2011 at 1:51 pm
91-bigot!
November 7th, 2011 at 1:52 pm
Boss was being saved for the remainder of the season. He probably can’t understand that he’s been injured TWICE (knee in pre and head in regs) and because he had a concussion.
It was a calculated move and the right one. Save your guys against a team we easily should’ve beat.
Backfired because our D fell asleep in the locker room at the half.
November 7th, 2011 at 1:52 pm
# HueKnows Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 1:50 pm
Well I’ll be at Thursday’s game at the Q. Can someone give me something to look forward to besides the hangover?
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Look for macclaine to upgrade the defense when healthy, he and curry side by side have been outstanding.
look for palmer to be one week more comfortable, lets hope that means he will also be better.
November 7th, 2011 at 1:52 pm
Poor communication skills. Losses stacking up. Locker room in jeopardy. Mixed loyalties. Some horrible play calls. Hue is on thin ice with The Nation.
November 7th, 2011 at 1:52 pm
This is my answer to what our problem is!
*****ONE THING I WANT YOU ALL TO TAKE FROM THIS BLOG TODAY IF NOTHING ELSE.*****
OUR DEFENSE SUCKS!!! OUTSIDE OF THE COLTS THEY ARE THE WORSE DEFENSE IN THE LEAGUE. IF I WAS ANY OFFENSE IN THE LEAGUE I WOULD WANT TO PLAY THE RAIDERS DEFENSE. IT IS TRUE MAN. FACE MASK HERE, BALL BACK! 3RD DOWN PUSH TEBOW ON HIS A$$ 4 YARDS OUT OF BOUNDS, BALL BACK! THROW A TD, RUN A TD, RUN A KR BACK, RUN A TD. ARM TACKLE HERE, ARM TACKLE THERE.
EACH SCORE THE BRONCOS WERE UNTOUCHED. I HATE THIS DEFENSE MAN. WORSE I HAVE SEEN IN A LONG TIME. DUMB AS A BOX OF ROCKS. CAN’T COVER A BABY WITH A 10 FOOT BLANKET. THEY SUCK!!!
November 7th, 2011 at 1:52 pm
Hueknows… You’ll be there if this team decides to play ball again…I hope that’s what you see…the team I thought we had..
November 7th, 2011 at 1:52 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
college qb watch list
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Tyler Wilson, bro. I bet he leaves for the NFL early. And if he’s on the board, you don’t pass him up.
I was the one yelling out Andy Dalton here a year ago when nobody knew who the fk he was. I’m right about Tyler, too.
November 7th, 2011 at 1:53 pm
# lefty12 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 1:51 pm
91-bigot!
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what is your issue with post 91?
November 7th, 2011 at 1:53 pm
It can’t be denied last years Cincy team had one of the worst Def. in the league while they are top 5 this year.
November 7th, 2011 at 1:54 pm
lefty12 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 1:51 pm
Aren’t outside LBs supposed to seal the edges?
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Curry & Wimbley were trying to be supermen to compensate for Blackstock’s inability to do anything.
November 7th, 2011 at 1:54 pm
I’m not sure if we played the Colts wed win… I have no idea anymore how good or bad this team is…. I know one thing we agree on… Our defense sucks
November 7th, 2011 at 1:55 pm
But hey, Blackstock knows Bresnehans defense….right.
November 7th, 2011 at 1:55 pm
3 f-ing days. SD has a long emotional loss in the 4th in a high-scoring game. We have more of an edge mentally. I can guarantee you that. They didn;t expect to beat GB but we expected to beat Denver. Some healthy players and we take it out on SD, Rivers.
November 7th, 2011 at 1:55 pm
Mistic-where is L.Jones,Wheeton(?),Barkley,Luck,or Toles.
November 7th, 2011 at 1:56 pm
105.DeuceDeuce Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 1:54 pm
lefty12 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 1:51 pm
Aren’t outside LBs supposed to seal the edges?
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Curry & Wimbley were trying to be supermen to compensate for Blackstock’s inability to do anything.
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they made fooooolssss!!! out of themselves is what they did!
November 7th, 2011 at 1:56 pm
That one is on Chucky B. & the defense.
November 7th, 2011 at 1:56 pm
raiderinparadise Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 1:35 pm
Its clear that Hue asked Palmer: Who do you feel comfy throwing to the most? he said: Ford, Moore and TJ …. odd men out were benched.
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There is zero evidence of that. Quit stirring schit where there is no evidence to do so. CP is a true professional & he wants ALL his receivers to make catches. His largest success has been to DHB. If DHB is in anyone’s dog house it’s Hue’s and we don’t know why. Too bad hue won’t tell us the truth about DHB & Boss. The smartest think Hue could do right now would be to let Saunders call the plays and have Hue focus 100% on fixing the defense. That starts by firing Bresnahan.
November 7th, 2011 at 1:57 pm
I miss Hiram Euegene right now LoL
November 7th, 2011 at 1:57 pm
Time for Hues presser….don’t want any excuses..
November 7th, 2011 at 1:58 pm
RaidingTexas Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 1:52 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
college qb watch list
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Tyler Wilson, bro. I bet he leaves for the NFL early. And if he’s on the board, you don’t pass him up.
I was the one yelling out Andy Dalton here a year ago when nobody knew who the fk he was. I’m right about Tyler, too.
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Umm….those aren’t his type of QBs there bud.
November 7th, 2011 at 1:59 pm
112.
The evidence is that DHB weasn’t on the field as our best statistical WR and Palmers #1 target against KC. Makes zero sense that Hue himself would do that, unless it called for Palmer to access who he liked in the week.
November 7th, 2011 at 1:59 pm
104.lefty12 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 1:53 pm
It can’t be denied last years Cincy team had one of the worst Def. in the league while they are top 5 this year.
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With the same players and coordinator???? And this year’s version doesn’t even have Jonathan Joseph who’ll probably be a Pro Bowler with Houston this year. Palmer was definitely a drag on that organization. He pretty much admitted that much when he said that they hadn’t won a lot of games during his tenure and it was time for he and the organization to move on. The fact that Cincy is 6-2 proves he was right.
November 7th, 2011 at 2:00 pm
# lefty12 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 1:55 pm
Mistic-where is L.Jones,Wheeton(?),Barkley,Luck,or Toles.
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they are on your list, why do they have to be on mine?
I think luck is te best of the group you posted, but not by much. barkley has a better arm
November 7th, 2011 at 2:00 pm
Worst part about the loss is the media making Tebow out to be a QB god now… Hell, Boller wouldve looked good against this defense yesterday!! (joking)
November 7th, 2011 at 2:00 pm
jacantbell didnt win any games dmc did ir all for the raiders…jacantbell a winner yeah right.
November 7th, 2011 at 2:00 pm
109.lefty12 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 1:55 pm
Mistic-where is L.Jones,Wheeton(?),Barkley,Luck,or Toles.
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You mean Foles, and we have no shot at any of them without the 1st rounder we gave up for your hero.
November 7th, 2011 at 2:01 pm
No more Jackson scholarship players, PLEASE!! Butt buddies dont win championships!!
November 7th, 2011 at 2:01 pm
palmer outplayed badly by tebow was an embarrasment, he cant be that bad
November 7th, 2011 at 2:02 pm
WTF is going on here?
One bad morale killing move to cut Hagan has moved this “team” to the brink of irrelevancy. Hue is losing this team fast. All those penalties is a clear indication to me the players didn’t give an F win or lose. That’s on the coach when team ain’t fighting hard enough.
The defense flat our QUIT during Denver’s last drive. Hue’s seat should get hot soon. Problem is there’s no GM to hold him accountable for fiascos like this.
Mark Davis needs to hire Mike Mayock of NFL Network as the GM. His name was mentioned a couple of years ago about a GM position w Raiders. He’ll be good one.
I’m very uncomfortable with Hue as coach & GM. He’s over his head as a coach alone let alone GM. Whenever a team quits on its coach the way Raiders did yesterday coach needs to be held accountable.
Amy Task, hire a GM ASAP.
November 7th, 2011 at 2:02 pm
ok, i am a the biggest raider fan in the world and i have liked a lot of what’s happened this year, and i’m usually an optimist. but i gotta say i don’t get what’s going on. sitting dmc made sense. getting tj made some sense, for a possession wr that we kinda lacked. but i thought it was going to eat into chaz and murphy’s time. how does dhb not play? and boss? i mean, wtf! something is going on and i want an explanation. it doesn’t make sense. dhb’s last 4 games were great. he is our best wr. i do like ford and denarious, but dhb just disappears? and we’re told it has to do w/ formations? that’s just ridiculous. dhb should be involved in all the formations. is larry fitzgerald not involved w/ countless formations?
5 straight sellouts and i doubt we’re getting another one for quite awhile. the rug feels like it’s been pulled from underneath us.
November 7th, 2011 at 2:02 pm
DHB had no injury.
Boss and McClain Hue could mask. Not DHB. I don;t care I still would rather have Moore get the looks, but just saying, if you think that had nothing to do with Palmer, your stupid.
Hue asked McFadden his favorite plays in college and put them in the playbook for him.
Reece told Hue he could make plays in the slot and out-wide, Hue put those plays in.
So you think if Plamer said” “I liked that Moore guy all week” hue would say “no were playing DHB” ? Get a grip.
Hue’s job/crediibility in Palmers play. He babying him.
November 7th, 2011 at 2:03 pm
I think Hue got to caught up in that John Wayne runing the show BS once Al died.
Hue is really being humbled right now, which may not be a bad thing. I like his fire and wish the Coach well, love some of his big play clling but we have to get back to basic execution. Especially with so many new players in the middle of the season.
Say what you want about DHB but he has been playing. No way I leave the guy just chillin. Look how the saints use all of their WRs. They keep them moving in and out, fresh and making plays. No way I don’t get him the ball on a bublle screen or two or down field. last time I recall he had a pretty decent game aginst the Donkeys!
November 7th, 2011 at 2:04 pm
Mistic,they are ALL on my list,not just a certain ‘group’.
November 7th, 2011 at 2:05 pm
Palmer threw 6 picks in OAK, throwing picks on the road is even more deflating with the crowd noise and momentum. He can;t have more than 1 pick. Knowingly he will have 1 INT at the least.
November 7th, 2011 at 2:06 pm
# lefty12 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 2:04 pm
Mistic,they are ALL on my list,not just a certain ‘group’.
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i dont get your meaning. you like the guys you posted, i like the guys i posted. so what is the issue with my list
November 7th, 2011 at 2:08 pm
QB Carson Palmer will make his second start for the Raiders on Thursday night against San Diego, a team that he has carved apart in the past. In three career starts against the Chargers, Palmer has nine TD passes and one interception. He has completed 74 of 103 passes (71.8 percent) for 1,023 yards. Raiders RapidReports
November 7th, 2011 at 2:08 pm
I kinda had it in the back of my mind that we would be the team to make tebow look good. Just like in the past we always made some no name rookie, wr, dt, mlb look great, really didn’t suprise me that we made mcghee look 22 again. This is pretty much the same d we had last year and I truly think its our d cord Stopping out progress.
November 7th, 2011 at 2:08 pm
I think Palmer was looking for Hush way to much and forcing the ball to him. I think everytime Hue makes a trade like he did for Plamer he thinks he has to prove right away why he made the trade. Heck Hush was suppose to run the inside stuff and he was running deep routes. What the freak was that????
November 7th, 2011 at 2:08 pm
Does anyone have a link to Hues presser?
November 7th, 2011 at 2:09 pm
http://www.waving_my_crank_every_sunday.com
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# Silverandblack666 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 2:08 pm
Does anyone have a link to Hues presser?
November 7th, 2011 at 2:09 pm
The only way the raiders can win is to be a run first team. Hue should know that our defense is shiit, so when we have a lead, we need to run the ball more to run more clock off so the other team’s offense doesn’t get too many possessions.
If we couldn’t stop tebow, who was considered a JOKE by everyone, there is no way we can stop rivers, rodgers, hell even matt moore who destroyed the chiefs defense.
November 7th, 2011 at 2:10 pm
132.DEATHROW 55 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 2:08 pm
I kinda had it in the back of my mind that we would be the team to make tebow look good. Just like in the past we always made some no name rookie, wr, dt, mlb look great, really didn’t suprise me that we made mcghee look 22 again. This is pretty much the same d we had last year and I truly think its our d cord Stopping out progress.
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Honestly thought the same thing and I agree. They think they are way better than what they are.
November 7th, 2011 at 2:11 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 11:36 am
DT42 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 11:23 am
Palmers not the problem – the problem is in two areas
1. WR Coaching – we started the season with a QB that was given half field reads.
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that is completely false. you have nothing to back up this wildly off base claim. Jc has never been instructed to read half the field in his entire nfl career.
What proof do you have the game film shows jc reading the entire field and hitting passes in all areas of the field.
cmon your just making stuff up now.
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They were showing it on NFL Network, they pointed out the mirror patterns on offense and talked about how the Raiders ran a couple of simple Route concepts. Your telling me that Murphy didn’t half a$$ that route vs KC? Your telling that with JC we didn’t run a very simple offense. You make it out like JC was just spraying the field like he was Tom Brady or something. Give me an example in which JC spread the ball around.
November 7th, 2011 at 2:12 pm
Mistic,you do nothing but promote black QBs.You made the ridiculous statement earlier we should have gotten Garrard or Young over Palmer.Young is a nut case that sucks,while Garrard said he couldn’t play and will have back surgery.While I understand when Priest wishes more QBs of color should be given more opportunities because they have been denied those opportunities in the past,I don’t like your dislike of a QB because of his color and that is what it is with you and Palmer.
November 7th, 2011 at 2:12 pm
macclaine and curry side by side for 3 games shut down the run and the defense was much better. now mcclaine goes out and the run defense suffers and the defense falls apart.
coincidence??
November 7th, 2011 at 2:14 pm
# DT42 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 2:11 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 11:36 am
DT42 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 11:23 am
Palmers not the problem – the problem is in two areas
1. WR Coaching – we started the season with a QB that was given half field reads.
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that is completely false. you have nothing to back up this wildly off base claim. Jc has never been instructed to read half the field in his entire nfl career.
What proof do you have the game film shows jc reading the entire field and hitting passes in all areas of the field.
cmon your just making stuff up now.
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They were showing it on NFL Network, they pointed out the mirror patterns on offense and talked about how the Raiders ran a couple of simple Route concepts. Your telling me that Murphy didn’t half a$$ that route vs KC? Your telling that with JC we didn’t run a very simple offense. You make it out like JC was just spraying the field like he was Tom Brady or something. Give me an example in which JC spread the ball around.
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thats crap. Jc is known for spreading the ball to all if his receivers backs and tight ends. he did a very good job of that here, try again
November 7th, 2011 at 2:15 pm
120.olinesux Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 2:00 pm
jacantbell didnt win any games dmc did ir all for the raiders…jacantbell a winner yeah right.
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Are u retarded or something? JaCarson has 6 INTS in 5 qtrs of football . DMC can run for 200 yrds but JaCarson will throw 3 more picks and give the other team 14 points off them …
November 7th, 2011 at 2:15 pm
At this rate Reggie Bush will run for 170 on us lol
November 7th, 2011 at 2:17 pm
The Oakland Bengals need to re-group fast
November 7th, 2011 at 2:17 pm
MistaBrown Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 2:09 pm
http://www.waving_my_crank_every_sunday.com
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# Silverandblack666 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 2:08 pm
Does anyone have a link to Hues presser?
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MB, now thats some funny shiz-nit!!
November 7th, 2011 at 2:17 pm
Some of you need to come off the ledge and relax. This is the NFL, teams are not going to just roll over and let us win because we think they suck. Defensive play calling was just bad in the 2nd half. We definitly have a tough road ahead of us. Its a good god darn thing that we were able to get a QB that play after 2 weeks of being on the team. If we didnt make that trade, Boller would have lost us that game, not the defense.
November 7th, 2011 at 2:18 pm
Hue always talks about earning playing time. “earn what you get and get what you earn” and all that good stuff. He says performance jusifies playing time. With that in mind, there is no way he can justify sitting our highest performing and most consistent receiver in DHB. It even seemed like Palmer and Bey had good chemistry right off the bat against KC.
Our run blocking also completely vanished in the last quarter and a half. What happened there? Is Samson Satele really that good? We need to get that settled because the strength in our team is in the run game, with or without McFadden, though DMac definitely helps.
But all in all our offense wasn’t to blame in this one. Can’t give up 200+ rushing yards. Our “dominant” front 7 tends to disappear for games at a time, like last year vs Houston or this year against buffalo. Blackstock is garbage. I know hue is sensitive to injuries but you gotta have your best players out there to give you a chance to win. Sitting McClain was costly.
November 7th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
something. Give me an example in which JC spread the ball around.
139.lefty12 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 2:12 pm
Mistic,you do nothing but promote black QBs.You made the ridiculous statement earlier we should have gotten Garrard or Young over Palmer.Young is a nut case that sucks,while Garrard said he couldn’t play and will have back surgery.While I understand when Priest wishes more QBs of color should be given more opportunities because they have been denied those opportunities in the past,I don’t like your dislike of a QB because of his color and that is what it is with you and Palmer.
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Maybe he does not like crappy Qb’s that throw INTS and can’t win division games ???
November 7th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
Hue Needs to check himself, this is the first time i have had a crack at hue,but his arrogance is farrking me off.
Meyers is horrible,
No DHB ,
12 targets to D Moore for 4 receptions (not all the kids fault)
Other stuff of note,
We could have used Romac,
Jacoby ford vindicating himself after a bunch of you ripped him last week.
Our penalties are pathetic, WTF are guys doing
Only 2 sacks ?
Special teams, we seem to give up huge returns every game.
Palmer put up 340 odd yards easy, (shame about the picks)
Reece is probaly worth having in there right.
An so much for some of you saying the chargers needed to beat the chiefs weeks back, as kansas would be on a huge streak, well that ended as bad as our game did..
Were still tied first, next game is HUGGGGE … Pick the best players Hue.
November 7th, 2011 at 2:20 pm
Giordano is getting worse by the game
November 7th, 2011 at 2:21 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 1:45 pm
I called they said no one named MR works there….they did say that they had to let a guy go recently because he was a pervert and was approaching young boys in the bathroom.
So I guess you were working there!
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You should have asked for Sullivan, you idiot.
November 7th, 2011 at 2:21 pm
# lefty12 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 2:12 pm
Mistic,you do nothing but promote black QBs.You made the ridiculous statement earlier we should have gotten Garrard or Young over Palmer.Young is a nut case that sucks,while Garrard said he couldn’t play and will have back surgery.While I understand when Priest wishes more QBs of color should be given more opportunities because they have been denied those opportunities in the past,I don’t like your dislike of a QB because of his color and that is what it is with you and Palmer.
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1.) why do you notice the skin color of the qbs on my list?
2.) i didnt say we should have gotten young or Garrard over palmer. i said maybe we can bring them in next year if carson continues stinking it up. Then they can compete with palmer and even could beat him out.
3.) i have never said i didnt like palmer. or that his skin was an issue.
where do you get this stuff from
November 7th, 2011 at 2:21 pm
if u like jacantbell and his little stones checking down on third and 15 then cheer his azz on when he is on another team. i dont want a qb that throws a deep
ball to the cameramen on the sideline…
November 7th, 2011 at 2:22 pm
CODE BLACK and ORANGE baby ! JUST LOSE ? WTF ? Committment to Bungling ??? OMG !
November 7th, 2011 at 2:22 pm
@153 LMAO hahahhahah
Jacantbell lol hahahahahhahah
November 7th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
Captain Check Down vs Captain Interception ??? Who would win ???
November 7th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
I am not giving up hope for play off run!our offence is only going to get better and our d will get better with mcllain back, we have no depth in lb or dt , this is the result when you have no depth in those positions. wimbley always playing down on the line and gets manhandled is getting old. We need to convert to 3-4. Wimbley, houston, hendo, seymore, groves-mcllain curry in middle. Fs needs to be branch fukk giorono Mm34 full time ss = killer D.
Any body agree????
November 7th, 2011 at 2:25 pm
“where do you get this stuff from”
You spew it in here all day long and then deny it when someone calls you on it!
Be real man just admit your a racist!
November 7th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
Jesus your a pathetic little runt…where are you I got some nine inch nails I would like to nail you back to that block of wood where you belong!
November 7th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
Carson looked very good for a preseason game, which is where he’s at with this team. We were a mediocre team and lost our starting QB, probably for the year. It’s gonna take some time to bounce back from that. The offense will be fine, fellas.
If you want to panic, direct your shrieking at Brez. When Van Dyke, Blackstock, and Giardano are logging heavy minutes, there’s gonna be issues… but there seems to be some other problem that makes the defense inconsistent. We had a 10pt lead and the Donks ran over us. Routt, Wimbley, and Seymour are all playing OK, but not like dudes making tens of million/yr each. Not getting big plays from any of our defensive guys. Odd that Curry has seemed like one of our better defenders the last two weeks…
Last two games were also reminders that Bush is not equal to McFadden. Very good back-up, but a weak NFL starter….
November 7th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
# Silverandblack666 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 2:25 pm
“where do you get this stuff from”
You spew it in here all day long and then deny it when someone calls you on it!
Be real man just admit your a racist!
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spew what
November 7th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
159.Silverandblack666 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
Jesus your a pathetic little runt…where are you I got some nine inch nails I would like to nail you back to that block of wood where you belong!
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Big talk for a phaggot @ss b!tch huh ???
November 7th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 2:14 pm
thats crap. JC is known for spreading the ball to all if his receivers backs and tight ends. he did a very good job of that here, try again
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Wow! What amazing analysis! I know I used big ideas like mirror routes and passing concepts. But checking down to your backs is not the same as reading the entire field. Blame the fact that JC’s had different OC’s every year that he has played football. In your need to defend JC you let the WR’s off the hook. I’m not knocking JC as much as the WR’s. JC’s a solid QB but Palmer is on a different level. If JC went to a place where they actually took the time to teach him to be a QB he has the ability to be great. But he is too conservavtive for an explosive offense. Outside off the Buff. game I can’t remember his last 300 yard game or a time when he has taken over a game and won it by himself.
Now adults are dicussing football, back to the kiddie table with you ok?
November 7th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
stablersbeard Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 1:39 pm
Hue “The Huckster” Jackwad needs to pull his head out before he gets stuck on the “Rooney Rule” carousel for the rest of his career. He’s got this one chance that he’s lucky to have gotten, after which his agent will be banging on Arena League doors to get him a gig.
I’m sure that a new GM will look at this season and decide on a different path if he doesn’t shape up.
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Rooney Rule interviews is the best he could have ever done. Look at his NFL resume: 5 different teams in ten years; never stayed with one team longer than 2-3 years; never progressed with any team team beyond position coach; never moved to a new team for a promotion; interim OC with Atlanta after Petrino left Dodge – Atlanta did not resign him. He seems to be able to schmooze his way into a job until he gets exposed as an incompetent fraud.
He duped Al, just like Kiffin duped Al. No ther team would have seriously considered him as a HC. Do you think the Niners were seriously going to hire him this year? Do you think the Niners regret hiring Harbaugh? No, Hue is a shyster and he has already lost the locker room. He undermined Cable every chance he got last year, now the chickens have come home to roost.
Thursday night will be a blowout – Chargers by at least three touchdowns.
November 7th, 2011 at 2:31 pm
The Raiders will win 8 games in a row
November 7th, 2011 at 2:31 pm
Hue says Bresnehan made right calls. Players failed to execute.
November 7th, 2011 at 2:33 pm
“Big talk for a phaggot @ss b!tch huh ???”
And the true Christian behavior comes out….is this what Jesus would do?
November 7th, 2011 at 2:33 pm
DT42 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 2:14 pm
thats crap. JC is known for spreading the ball to all if his receivers backs and tight ends. he did a very good job of that here, try again
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Wow! What amazing analysis! I know I used big ideas like mirror routes and passing concepts. But checking down to your backs is not the same as reading the entire field.
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In our offense you read deep first then intermediate then short, which means check downs are the last read the qb makes. that is one of the things that make this offense different as many offense you take te short read first as in the wco.
Jc check down as a last resort not a first read.
anything else?
November 7th, 2011 at 2:33 pm
Fire both for cause.
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# DeuceDeuce Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 2:31 pm
Hue says Bresnehan made right calls. Players failed to execute.
November 7th, 2011 at 2:34 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 2:33 pm
“Big talk for a phaggot @ss b!tch huh ???”
And the true Christian behavior comes out….is this what Jesus would do?
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Please dont group all Christians together.
Thats like saying all Raider fans are idiots, just because a few on here are.
Thanks..
November 7th, 2011 at 2:35 pm
MistaBrown Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 2:33 pm
Fire both for cause.
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# DeuceDeuce Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 2:31 pm
Hue says Bresnehan made right calls. Players failed to execute.
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Hue is making a statement to the players the last few weeks.
Unfortunately that statement might cost us this season.
November 7th, 2011 at 2:35 pm
Who says I’m Christian ? I’m actually Tim Tebow… LOL
November 7th, 2011 at 2:37 pm
palmer is completing a woeful 38 % of his passes on third down for a measly 3.9 yards per attempt with a pick and a sack. this must improve or we are toast.
November 7th, 2011 at 2:37 pm
Any body agree????
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we’re winning it all this year
November 7th, 2011 at 2:38 pm
DeuceDeuce
I hear you.
Jesus….that was funny.
November 7th, 2011 at 2:38 pm
I Am Spartacus Says:
He seems to be able to schmooze his way into a job until he gets exposed as an incompetent fraud.
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Truth.
November 7th, 2011 at 2:39 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 2:37 pm
palmer is completing a woeful 38 % of his passes on third down for a measly 3.9 yards per attempt with a pick and a sack. this must improve or we are toast.
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would JC have won the game with tebow and mcgahee going for over 200 yeards and denver getting a punt run for a td? I’ll answer for you, no
November 7th, 2011 at 2:40 pm
170.DeuceDeuce Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 2:34 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 2:33 pm
“Big talk for a phaggot @ss b!tch huh ???”
And the true Christian behavior comes out….is this what Jesus would do?
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Please dont group all Christians together.
Thats like saying all Raider fans are idiots, just because a few on here are.
Thanks..
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All Christians are stupid and use god as a way to make them feel better. “Since GOD will forgive me I can act like a greedy douche and get into heaven for FREE yeah GOD !
November 7th, 2011 at 2:40 pm
Huebris Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 2:38 pm
I Am Spartacus Says:
He seems to be able to schmooze his way into a job until he gets exposed as an incompetent fraud.
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Truth.
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you’ll both be licking his ba!!s when we’re in the playoffs
November 7th, 2011 at 2:40 pm
palmer in the 4th quarter has a 43% comletion percentage with 4 picks and o tds, a sack for a beyond paltry gradkowski esqu 24.7 passer rating.
we will not win until this improves
November 7th, 2011 at 2:40 pm
OCCUPY…
Hundreds of cities around the world hundreds of thousands of people fighting against a banking scam that stole $17 TRILLION and multi-national Corps that are bent on making us all “Chinese”
November 7th, 2011 at 2:41 pm
Where is the new post with Hue’s presser?
November 7th, 2011 at 2:41 pm
Palmer will be a pro bowler again someday. Hue will coach an AFC championship soon, and you cynical morons who want to fire everyone after a loss will still be talking chit!
November 7th, 2011 at 2:42 pm
Jesus Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 2:40 pm
170.DeuceDeuce Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 2:34 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 2:33 pm
“Big talk for a phaggot @ss b!tch huh ???”
And the true Christian behavior comes out….is this what Jesus would do?
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Please dont group all Christians together.
Thats like saying all Raider fans are idiots, just because a few on here are.
Thanks..
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All Christians are stupid and use god as a way to make them feel better. “Since GOD will forgive me I can act like a greedy douche and get into heaven for FREE yeah GOD !
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Case in point.
November 7th, 2011 at 2:42 pm
This Hue stuff is starting to get me. Lying and double talk, the guy is a fraud. Too much power. Hey Amy and Mark, you need to put a stop to this.
Hue Jacksons real colors are starting to show and the Nation does not approve.
November 7th, 2011 at 2:42 pm
#181….Why dont you go occupy a blog that is about that wast of time.
November 7th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
Hue is losing this lockeroom.
Players are openly questioning his decisions and confused by his coaching and play calling.
Boss and DHB were signed here to make plays not sit on the sidelines.
Bush has 70 something yards in the 1st half and they completely abandon the running game after the half.
The defense lacks passion, pride, and IQ.
Rod Woodson is not getting the job done with the defensive backs who constantly blow assignments and give up big plays.
The Defensive Line is out of shape and incapable of playing at a high level for 4 quarters even after the bye week.
The LBs are the worst of all the units on this team.
Raiders are a hot mess and headed for a 8-8 season at best.
This team will not beat GB, Detroit, or SD.
November 7th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
I approve of Hue, you dont speak for the Nation Morilla!
November 7th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
Huge Loss!
November 7th, 2011 at 2:44 pm
184.DeuceDeuce Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 2:42 pm
Jesus Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 2:40 pm
170.DeuceDeuce Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 2:34 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 2:33 pm
“Big talk for a phaggot @ss b!tch huh ???”
And the true Christian behavior comes out….is this what Jesus would do?
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Please dont group all Christians together.
Thats like saying all Raider fans are idiots, just because a few on here are.
Thanks..
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All Christians are stupid and use god as a way to make them feel better. “Since GOD will forgive me I can act like a greedy douche and get into heaven for FREE yeah GOD !
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Case in point.
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I’m Catholic … LOL
November 7th, 2011 at 2:44 pm
“palmer in the 4th quarter has a 43% comletion percentage”
And JC right now has a 0% completion percentage because he is on the bench injured?
Your bash Palmer mantra is getting old in here.
Look at JC’s first game as a Raider 38-13 loss to Tenn
November 7th, 2011 at 2:44 pm
# inonewordraider Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 2:39 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 2:37 pm
palmer is completing a woeful 38 % of his passes on third down for a measly 3.9 yards per attempt with a pick and a sack. this must improve or we are toast.
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would JC have won the game with tebow and mcgahee going for over 200 yeards and denver getting a punt run for a td? I’ll answer for you, no
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your asking me to speculate? i think jc would have won the game, because he would have been able to execute the offense and avoid the critical errors. he also would have been money in the clutch as he has been since coming to oakland. Jc is amazing when it counts, 3rd down and 4th quarter. these are exactly the areas that palmer faltered in yesterday. there is no reason to believe that Jc wouldnt have continued his trend of outstanding play and against teams he has owned like the broncos.
better offense means tebow doesnt have the luxury of being a running qb and we force him to beat us passing.
November 7th, 2011 at 2:45 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 2:44 pm
“palmer in the 4th quarter has a 43% comletion percentage”
And JC right now has a 0% completion percentage because he is on the bench injured?
Your bash Palmer mantra is getting old in here.=
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pointing out alarming stats is bashing palmer?
November 7th, 2011 at 2:45 pm
L.A. Raider Dave Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 2:41 pm
Palmer will be a pro bowler again someday. Hue will coach an AFC championship soon, and you cynical morons who want to fire everyone after a loss will still be talking chit!
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tell em dave is this the Raider Blog or the girl scouts blog? Bunch of baby girls crying like they lost their pacifier
November 7th, 2011 at 2:46 pm
Jesus Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 2:44 pm
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congratulations.
November 7th, 2011 at 2:46 pm
You guys should tune into 95.7 FM at 5:00. Trent Balke, GM of the 49ers will be on. Articulate, well versed, quite knowledgeable football guy, who’s the backbone behind the 49ers revitalization. Kind of like the Raiders GM. Oh, sorry. Raiders don’t have a GM. Well, there you have it.
November 7th, 2011 at 2:46 pm
It’s a Huge Loss!!!
November 7th, 2011 at 2:47 pm
I like consistency. Carson Palmer. 6 quarters. 6 interceptions. Now that’s consistency.
November 7th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
Some of us have a job why dont you by our secretary and take notes.
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Sullivan44 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 2:46 pm
You guys should tune into 95.7 FM
November 7th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
“i think jc would have won the game, because he would have been able to execute the offense and avoid the critical errors.”
And he plays defense and we all know that with JC at MLB our defense would not have given up 300 yards in rushing.
Your a retard teams have won games in the NFL with 5 or 6 turnovers but never has a team won that have given up 300 yards of rushing and over 100 yards in penalties.
Stop lying to yourself already!!!
November 7th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
by = *be
November 7th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
Watched the game again. Think the ledge dwellers and Kleenex Crew needs to chill.
Basically, it boiled down to Denver finished us off. They wanted it more in the last 8 min or so. The way it’s described in here we were gouged the whole game on the ground.
We weren’t. Our defensed played pretty well for 4 1/2 quarters, save for 2 defensive breakdowns in the secondary, which unfortunately lead tl TDs.
The way it’s described in here is that Palmer is a turnover machine and we were cheated on that trade. We weren’t. You may not believe it now, but trust me on this one, we upgraded in a big way.
This team needs to learn how to finish off a game.
Killer insticnt gotta be there. I’ve seen flashes from this squad last two years.
We got an 8 game season coming with KC and SD left to play and some really tough games in there and some games against weaker opponents that are MUST wins.
I know we’ve dropped two in a row, but you can still be excited as fans.
We came out after a really bad Buffalo loss and showed what we can do on D. We’re capable. The whole Raiders should go to SEC thing is funny, but a stretch.
I know we only got 16 of these things per year, but the knee jerk has got a lot of you guys kicking yourselves in the @$$.
Thursday Night Football will be the biggest game here in a decade.
Kinda cool we’ve got to say that a few times around here lately.
At 4-4, we’ve dropped at least 2 games that should have been Ws but the good news is that somehow, we’re tied for first and the division is completely up for grabs.
November 7th, 2011 at 2:49 pm
Occupy 1220 Harbor Bay Parkway
November 7th, 2011 at 2:49 pm
Not only is the team fracturing, so is the Raider Nation.
Winning cures all.
November 7th, 2011 at 2:49 pm
Grrrrrrr Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
Carson looked very good for a preseason game, which is where he’s at with this team.
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Good point.
November 7th, 2011 at 2:49 pm
Why on earth? On yah, unemployed Dem sponging off tax payers. Was it better the second time around?
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LA to TheBay Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
Watched the game again
November 7th, 2011 at 2:50 pm
# Silverandblack666 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 2:44 pm
“palmer in the 4th quarter has a 43% comletion percentage”
Look at JC’s first game as a Raider 38-13 loss to Tenn
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actually i did a side by side comparison for the last two years and jc owns palmer. so what is your point. dont beleive it take another look
Cuase for alarm for carson, or just rust? peep these numbers
carson palmer on 3rd down 2010
95-174 1023 yds 54.6 comp% 9 tds 7 ints 8 sacks 72.6 rating
carson palmer in the 4th quarter 2010
108-182 1223 yds 59.3 comp% 9 td 8 ints 12 sacks 77.7 rating
carson palmer on 3rd down 2011
5-13 51 yds 38.5 comp% 1 td 1 int 1 sack 44.1 rating
carson palmer in the 4th quarter 2011
11-26 168 yds 42.3 comp % 0 tds 4 ints 1 sack 24.7 rating
as you can see this isnt very good. Just sp we can appreciate the value of clutch qb play lest take a look at Jc’s numbers. it will give us a feel for why losing our qb is the biggest reason for the recent struggles, and disprove the notion that palmer is some magic bullet instant upgrade.
Jc on 3rd down 2010
54-102 756 yds 52.9 comp% 6 tds 2 ints 14 sacks 88.5 rating
( on 4th down he was 5-6 1 td 0 picks for a ridiculous 145.1 rating)
Jc in the 4th quarter 2010
59-94 756 yds 6.8 comp% 4 tds 1 int 5 sacks 97.7 rating
in overtime 1-1 47 yds 118. rating
Jc on 3rd down 2011
27-48 303 yds 56.3 comp % 2tds 0 ints 1 sack 89.2 rating
Jc in the 4th quarter 2011
24-41 404 yds 58.5 comp % 4 tds 2 ints 0 sack 104.1 rating
This clearly illustrates that Jc was money in the clutch and palmer has big shoes to fill. lets hope he can at the least come close.
This also disproves the myth of the instant upgrade theory as jc was clearly better in critical situations.
But if palmer falters and Jc comes back healthy can hu jack go back to him? Breaking that collar bone has had bigger impact then most want to acknowledge.
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November 7th, 2011 at 2:50 pm
You gotta beat Tim Tebow & Denver at home.
November 7th, 2011 at 2:50 pm
Gotta go for it on that 4th down that led to the punt return for TD..
November 7th, 2011 at 2:50 pm
I am so happy we play Thursday. Team should be amped to make up for it.
November 7th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
I really want JaCarson to succeed . If only Hue Jax continued the same balance on offense we would be OK. But his arrogant @ss thinks his QB is Joe Montana and instead of making it easy for him he throws him to the wolves….
November 7th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 2:50 pm
You gotta beat Tim Tebow & Denver at home.
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Gotta wait til next year for that.
November 7th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
think jc would have won the game, because he would have been able to execute the offense and avoid the critical errors
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the same way he played against the 9ers last year? or against st louis last year? or what about kc in oakland for 3 quarters? or against Ne this year? Give Carson a chance. He has the arm strength the pundits said was gone and with that arm strenght he went 2 pro bowls and won divisions both of which JC has yet to sniff. I’ll take winning over management of the game
November 7th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
Actually I think Palmer threw the ball pretty good. Aside from the 1st pick , one was tipped up in the air and the last one was meaningless. My problem was that it looked like Hue was showcasing Palmer – throwing on 1st down etc. rather than just running Bush and Jones and throwing to the TE , except Boss was on the bench the whole game. I live in NJ and when Boss was a Giant they used him alot. So we’re just not losing draft picks we’re wasting free agents.
November 7th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
inonewordraider Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 2:40 pm
Huebris Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 2:38 pm
I Am Spartacus Says:
He seems to be able to schmooze his way into a job until he gets exposed as an incompetent fraud.
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Truth.
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you’ll both be licking his ba!!s when we’re in the playoffs
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Hardly. Men with Napoleon complexes – like Hue – don’t have any genitalia. That’s why they hide behind big talk, hyperbole and bluster.
November 7th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
“pointing out alarming stats is bashing palmer?”
Palmer has been here all of 2 weeks give him a chance before you start trying to manipulate his stats to show he is incompetent.
Hell we gave DHB three years give the guy a few more weeks in our system before trying to bury him.
We all know you have a hidden agenda.
November 7th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
I’m a believer in Hue. However, I’m also a believer that Hue got caught up in the Al Davis/Carson Palmer/TJ hoopla and everything that went along with those events a little too much. Once he focuses his efforts 100% on coaching again; we’ll be alright. Still a long way to go, and the division is still within our grasp.
And regardless how good Hue thinks Carson is, there is no reason we should be throwing the ball 30+ times a game.
November 7th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
l.a
you didnt mention the turn overs, are you saying they didnt have any impact on us losing the game?
November 7th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
Fuk this haters they think it’s easy to be a head coach for first time at any level regardless it’s thR freaking NFL the guy had what like 3 or 4 weeks of training camp and u guys expect him to b really good coach And compare to our cross bay rivals coach wtf that guy have been a coach before And he have his brother John to help him out too so he’s really not like a rookie but if u want to call him that then go ahead call him whatever u guys want but just lay off hue for awhile what he’s doing is not easy the guy had only control over his offense until noe..
November 7th, 2011 at 2:52 pm
Wow, “Our defensed played pretty well for 4 1/2 quarters” = “Our defense played pretty well for 3 1/2 quarters.”
F*ck cell phones.
November 7th, 2011 at 2:52 pm
The guy didn’t even had control of the defense until now***
November 7th, 2011 at 2:52 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 2:45 pm
pointing out alarming stats is bashing palmer?
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The most alarming stat is giving up 300 yards on the ground to a bunch of scrubs. 115 of which came from their Q. AND they got a punt return for six. I think those stats are all we need to see.
November 7th, 2011 at 2:52 pm
This will probably read badly..but to me this thursday is a must win for Hue Jackson due to the turmoil HE caused with his recent moves and the team performance.
There is NO EXCUSE for benching Boss and DHB! NONE. Hue wants a Nintendo offense damn the consequences.
He said Carson deal was essential to win now. That’s a coach talking. A GM would have said, Hue, this raggedy defense isn’t good enough and our receivers too young. Let’s get a cheap backstop or get Boller / Pryor ready. We will make a deal with Cincy in the offseason at a far lower cost if necessary.
The deal is a bust if this is a 7-9 ballclub. You could go 7-9 with Pryor running around no diss on Palmer, he can’t overcome what is an atrocious defense. JC was right for the team precisely cause his conservative play ate up the clock and kept the raggedy defense off the field.
Now Hue is playing games with DHB, Boss. The chaos with losing badly is unacceptable.
Hue needs to right this ship fast. He was the one that said win now
November 7th, 2011 at 2:53 pm
Morilla I am on you side, hue Jackson is a fraud period the end. Sorry guys, this guy is toast after the season unless something dramatic happens.
November 7th, 2011 at 2:53 pm
# inonewordraider Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
think jc would have won the game, because he would have been able to execute the offense and avoid the critical errors
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the same way he played against the 9ers last year? or against st louis last year? or what about kc in oakland for 3 quarters? or against Ne this year? Give Carson a chance. He has the arm strength the pundits said was gone and with that arm strenght he went 2 pro bowls and won divisions both of which JC has yet to sniff. I’ll take winning over management of the game
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i hear you but, jc was 12-7 palmer is 0-1 and looked awful doing it.
lets hope he can turn it around
November 7th, 2011 at 2:54 pm
Hardly. Men with Napoleon complexes – like Hue – don’t have any genitalia. That’s why they hide behind big talk, hyperbole and bluster.
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LOL
November 7th, 2011 at 2:54 pm
“This also disproves the myth of the instant upgrade theory as jc was clearly better in critical situations.”
So you and Hue Jackson are no longer in “Lock Step” I see because Hue is sold on Palmer!
November 7th, 2011 at 2:54 pm
Bad teams always look alike. Dumb penalties.
November 7th, 2011 at 2:54 pm
Tebow ONLY has the option of being a running QB, thats why the defensive play calling was cowardly!
November 7th, 2011 at 2:55 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 2:33 pm
In our offense you read deep first then intermediate then short, which means check downs are the last read the qb makes. that is one of the things that make this offense different as many offense you take te short read first as in the wco.
Jc check down as a last resort not a first read.
anything else?
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thank you for your valuable insight. I would have never known the differnce between the offense that the Raiders run and the WCO. Your Football IQ is off the charts!!! It’s so easy to confuse the two offensive systems……Reading one side of the field deep to short is NOT reading the entire field! JC would make pre-snap reads pick one side and ignore everyone else. Go back and show me where he EVER made a double pump and went to the opposite side of the field. I can’t remember one. But again all I’m saying is that the Raiders were running lazy routes when they didn’t think they were involved in the play. That’s a WR problem.
Sorry if I got in the way of your man-crush for JC.
November 7th, 2011 at 2:56 pm
“you didnt mention the turn overs, are you saying they didnt have any impact on us losing the game?’
Teams have won the the NFL while giving up 5 or 6 turnovers.
Never has a team won while giving up 300 yards rushing and over 100 yards in penalties!
Get your facts straight!
November 7th, 2011 at 2:56 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
“pointing out alarming stats is bashing palmer?”
Palmer has been here all of 2 weeks give him a chance before you start trying to manipulate his stats to show he is incompetent.
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I didnt manipulate stats, i only posted them. it is what actually happened, and isnt impacted in any way by any of our opinion, it is cold hard fact.
I never said palmer was incompetent. I think he can be decent, but he will get the bust lable if he doesnt stop coughing up the football at a gradkowki rate
November 7th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
Yep, JC throws 1 TD, runs for another TD, feeds the ball to Bush, we win.
November 7th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
Fuk this haters they think it’s easy to be a head coach for first time at any level regardless it’s thR freaking NFL the guy had what like 3 or 4 weeks of training camp and u guys expect him to b really good coach And compare to our cross bay rivals coach wtf that guy have been a coach before And he have his brother John to help him out too so he’s really not like a rookie but if u want to call him that then go ahead call him whatever u guys want but just lay off hue for awhile what he’s doing Thais not easy the guy had only control over his offense until noe..
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That’s a lot of excuses for Hue. With no head coaching experience at any level, perhaps he should not have been hired in the first place? Look at his entire body of work: he has made no appreciable advancement with any organization he’s been with. Only Al was foolish enough to allow himself to be duped.
November 7th, 2011 at 2:58 pm
“Sorry if I got in the way of your man-crush for JC.”
Ding Ding!!
You nailed it!
November 7th, 2011 at 2:58 pm
316 yards passing, in only his first start as a Raider with no camp. Amazing. This is what we get to look forward to Nation. The INT numbers will go down as he gets more and more comfortable.
Just imagine when Run DMC comes back. This offense will finally reach its true potential.
Now if only the defense was worth half its salary, then we’d be smokin’
November 7th, 2011 at 2:58 pm
No panic here.
See me friday. Then we’ll talk panic.
November 7th, 2011 at 2:59 pm
rayraider Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
Actually I think Palmer threw the ball pretty good. Aside from the 1st pick , one was tipped up in the air and the last one was meaningless. My problem was that it looked like Hue was showcasing Palmer – throwing on 1st down etc. rather than just running Bush and Jones and throwing to the TE , except Boss was on the bench the whole game. I live in NJ and when Boss was a Giant they used him alot. So we’re just not losing draft picks we’re wasting free agents.
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This is a pretty good post.
Mistic,
Oh yeah, I think Palmer’s 2nd INT was huge. You kind of don’t expect to let the D allow a 60 yd TD run the next play, but the reason Denver was in position to do it was because of that 2nd INT.
And I think Hue got a little too fancy playing with his new toy.
But he’s gonna keep playing with him and I’ll tell you why: Carson can deal.
He was 11/12 with 2 TDs after his first INT and was taking the game over. Those two TDs were incredible throws only a few NFL QBs can make and great catches.
For a guy to have 300+, 3 TDs (none of which were in garbage time) with 8 practices is pretty nice. And you could tell he had FAR more control of the offense. His decisions weren’t poor, he was just a bit off on some of his throws and and on a couple, could have used more help from the WR.
It may take a while to come together but then again, your boy JC didn’t really light it up right away either.
If we’re still comparing, then he’s progressed quicker than the guy he replaced, which is good news for all Raiders fans like us, right?
November 7th, 2011 at 2:59 pm
MistaBrown Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
Some of us have a job why dont you by our secretary and take notes.
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And then there is you, KK, and TJ, all of who wish they did, sitting here all day, every day.
November 7th, 2011 at 2:59 pm
# DT42 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 2:55 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 2:33 pm
In our offense you read deep first then intermediate then short, which means check downs are the last read the qb makes. that is one of the things that make this offense different as many offense you take te short read first as in the wco.
Jc check down as a last resort not a first read.
anything else?
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thank you for your valuable insight. I would have never known the differnce between the offense that the Raiders run and the WCO. Your Football IQ is off the charts!!! It’s so easy to confuse the two offensive systems……Reading one side of the field deep to short is NOT reading the entire field! JC would make pre-snap reads pick one side and ignore everyone else. Go back and show me where he EVER made a double pump and went to the opposite side of the field. I can’t remember one. But again all I’m saying is that the Raiders were running lazy routes when they didn’t think they were involved in the play. That’s a WR problem.
Sorry if I got in the way of your man-crush for JC.
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please this sort of babble cant be proven or backed up, you are simply throwing crap at the wall. You only get to the final read in a rout after you have gone through the preceding reads.
how is that hard to understand? the check down to the back is the final read not the first.
November 7th, 2011 at 2:59 pm
@209….. Go for it on 4th down on your side of the field with the lead? Your a moron.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:00 pm
The Raiders beat the schit out of Tebow, physically yesterday. But, the Raiders defense got worn down, they should have pounded the ball, and wore Denver out.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:00 pm
# LA to TheBay Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 2:59 pm
rayraider Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
Actually I think Palmer threw the ball pretty good. Aside from the 1st pick , one was tipped up in the air and the last one was meaningless. My problem was that it looked like Hue was showcasing Palmer – throwing on 1st down etc. rather than just running Bush and Jones and throwing to the TE , except Boss was on the bench the whole game. I live in NJ and when Boss was a Giant they used him alot. So we’re just not losing draft picks we’re wasting free agents.
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This is a pretty good post.
Mistic,
Oh yeah, I think Palmer’s 2nd INT was huge. You kind of don’t expect to let the D allow a 60 yd TD run the next play, but the reason Denver was in position to do it was because of that 2nd INT.
And I think Hue got a little too fancy playing with his new toy.
But he’s gonna keep playing with him and I’ll tell you why: Carson can deal.
He was 11/12 with 2 TDs after his first INT and was taking the game over. Those two TDs were incredible throws only a few NFL QBs can make and great catches.
For a guy to have 300+, 3 TDs (none of which were in garbage time) with 8 practices is pretty nice. And you could tell he had FAR more control of the offense. His decisions weren’t poor, he was just a bit off on some of his throws and and on a couple, could have used more help from the WR.
It may take a while to come together but then again, your boy JC didn’t really light it up right away either.
If we’re still comparing, then he’s progressed quicker than the guy he replaced, which is good news for all Raiders fans like us, right?
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6 picks and a fumbled snap is progressing faster than the guy he replaced?
November 7th, 2011 at 3:01 pm
November 7th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
Yep, JC throws 1 TD, runs for another TD, feeds the ball to Bush, we win.
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These bloggers don’t care about winning. They want JaCarson to throw 400yds 3 tds and 3 picks . Winning is second place to STATS …
November 7th, 2011 at 3:01 pm
152.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 2:21 pm
# lefty12 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 2:12 pm
Mistic,you do nothing but promote black QBs.You made the ridiculous statement earlier we should have gotten Garrard or Young over Palmer.Young is a nut case that sucks,while Garrard said he couldn’t play and will have back surgery.While I understand when Priest wishes more QBs of color should be given more opportunities because they have been denied those opportunities in the past,I don’t like your dislike of a QB because of his color and that is what it is with you and Palmer.
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1.) why do you notice the skin color of the qbs on my list?
2.) i didnt say we should have gotten young or Garrard over palmer. i said maybe we can bring them in next year if carson continues stinking it up. Then they can compete with palmer and even could beat him out.
3.) i have never said i didnt like palmer. or that his skin was an issue.
where do you get this stuff from
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I guess times really have changed, I saw the qb list and it never occurred to me their color until it was pointed out. They’re definitely not all running qb’s either. I think Gino Smith has a future and he runs less than Peyton Manning.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:01 pm
Code black
November 7th, 2011 at 3:01 pm
@234…..His most important advancement has been of the Raiders offense. Or do you think we were better with Cable or Lane?
November 7th, 2011 at 3:01 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
Yep, JC throws 1 TD, runs for another TD, feeds the ball to Bush, we win.
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More like 1 TD pass and 1 fumble.
Since when did JC get known for rushing TDs? He has 6 in his entire 6 year career.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:01 pm
Hue seems to be loosing this team…
Disturbing quotes coming out of the Saturday night team meeting and the post game locker room…
November 7th, 2011 at 3:01 pm
# KoolKell Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
Yep, JC throws 1 TD, runs for another TD, feeds the ball to Bush, we win.
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seems simple to me as well
November 7th, 2011 at 3:01 pm
L.A. Raider Dave Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 2:59 pm
@209….. Go for it on 4th down on your side of the field with the lead? Your a moron.
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Thats exactly what we did against the Texans. Next..
November 7th, 2011 at 3:02 pm
VanHeathen Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 3:01 pm
Hue seems to be loosing this team…
Disturbing quotes coming out of the Saturday night team meeting and the post game locker room…
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Would you like to share those?..
November 7th, 2011 at 3:03 pm
I liked Palmer’s first game 1,000 times better than JC’s first game (vs Tennessee last year).
Not even close.
The QB trade had to be made to at least TRY and make this our first playoff season in forever.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:03 pm
Code Black and Blue!
November 7th, 2011 at 3:04 pm
CODE BLACK and ORANGE …
November 7th, 2011 at 3:04 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 3:00 pm
The Raiders beat the schit out of Tebow, physically yesterday. But, the Raiders defense got worn down, they should have pounded the ball, and wore Denver out
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yezzir!
November 7th, 2011 at 3:04 pm
# The Big Banana Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 3:01 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
Yep, JC throws 1 TD, runs for another TD, feeds the ball to Bush, we win.
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More like 1 TD pass and 1 fumble.
Since when did JC get known for rushing TDs? He has 6 in his entire 6 year career.
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Hu Jack and saunder realized that this was an under utilized part of his game. We saw 2 rushing tds from him in 6 games this year, and a few qb sneaks for first downs.
yes his mobiltiy will be missed and it showed up yesterday. palmer sacked twice in the 4th quarter yesterday, jc hasnt been sacked in the 4th quarter all year!!!!
November 7th, 2011 at 3:04 pm
ATTENTION:
Re: Raider Prediction Board
Don’t panic. Just list your scores. My laptop died this AM and I won’t be able to pick up scores until late today (unless we get the thing working), or maybe tomorrow.
I did not run off after yesterday’s game, although I was thinking about it. Spent the last part of the 4th quarter helping son with calculus homework.(Is there any reason to find the slope of a sin function? Or a tangent line to it?)
Maybe those two loses will convince someone that this team needs to play its very best to do well all the time.
We will find out this Thursday where we are. Sadly, still enjoying Tebow’s hurt lip.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:05 pm
Funny thing about the JC love fest today is this:
If JC had EVER learned to slide, like
EVERY NFL Quaterback is taught to do,
we wouldn’t be in this mess to begin with…
Especially since we kept an innept QB as a back up to keep the QB controversy at bay…
November 7th, 2011 at 3:05 pm
Jesus Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 3:01 pm
November 7th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
Yep, JC throws 1 TD, runs for another TD, feeds the ball to Bush, we win.
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These bloggers don’t care about winning. They want JaCarson to throw 400yds 3 tds and 3 picks . Winning is second place to STATS …
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Right. That’s why we’re trying to get behind our new QB instead of carrying our injured-for-the-year former starter on our shoulders like you.
Tell us again how dogging our current starter means you like winning.
Absolutely hilarious…
November 7th, 2011 at 3:05 pm
Hue = Little Hitler
November 7th, 2011 at 3:05 pm
2 ex Bengals on the roster and now your calling them the Bengals. Are you that stupid.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:05 pm
Like I said..
We go for it and convert that 4th and 8 inches. We most likely win.
But….we punt and the rest is history.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:06 pm
“yes his mobiltiy will be missed and it showed up yesterday. palmer sacked twice in the 4th quarter yesterday, jc hasnt been sacked in the 4th quarter all year!!!!”
Palmer was sacked because we had Wiz at Center and a rookie replacing him for the entire 4th period.
I am guessing that since JC can walk on water this would not have happened to him.
Stop the hate!
November 7th, 2011 at 3:07 pm
If we’re still comparing, then he’s progressed quicker than the guy he replaced, which is good news for all Raiders fans like us, right?
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6 picks and a fumbled snap is progressing faster than the guy he replaced?
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Mistic, see post 253.
Carson’s first start: fire in his eyes.
Jason’s first start: headlights in his eyes.
Jason played scared as he11 in that game and then aggainst Pittsburgh. Don’t see that from Carson. He may throw for an extra pick, but he’ll throw for an extra 200 yards and go down swinging.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:07 pm
Obviously Hue Jax needs to step up his game. He needs to concentrate on getting this team back to being a TEAM !
November 7th, 2011 at 3:07 pm
L.A. Raider Dave Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 3:05 pm
2 ex Bengals on the roster and now your calling them the Bengals. Are you that stupid.
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4 but whos counting..
November 7th, 2011 at 3:08 pm
mistic, what am i throwing against a wall?? Go back and learn about football……not on an X-box and try again. What I’m trying to say and you would hear me if you didn’t keep staring at the giant poster of Campbell over your bed is that Palmer is more likely to look to his Wideouts before he checks down. He is more likely to make his read as he drops back. He doesn’t solely rely on his pre-snap read becuase unlike college NFL defenses disguise coverages way more. What is it date night for you? Gonna curl up with some popcorn and watch 2004 War Eagle championship highlights??
November 7th, 2011 at 3:08 pm
# VanHeathen Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 3:05 pm
Funny thing about the JC love fest today is this:
If JC had EVER learned to slide, like
EVERY NFL Quaterback is taught to do,
we wouldn’t be in this mess to begin with…
Especially since we kept an innept QB as a back up to keep the QB controversy at bay…
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i wish this were true
This blog trashed him last year after the first game when he slid in tenn and came up a yard short, on a non critical play.
now he is being trashed for not sliding, he just would never be accepted.
too many haters
November 7th, 2011 at 3:09 pm
Not a fan of the play calling, the penalties cost us the game, Carson Palmer is the Sh*t!! Great trade!
Go Raiders!
November 7th, 2011 at 3:09 pm
KoolKell Says:
But, the Raiders defense got worn down, they should have pounded the ball, and wore Denver out
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That quit working about midway through the 3rd quarter. Look at Bush’s last five rushing attempts:
M.Bush right tackle to OAK 21 for 1 yard.
M.Bush right tackle to OAK 22 for 1 yard.
M.Bush left tackle to OAK 28 for 1 yard.
M.Bush left tackle to OAK 31 for 3 yards.
M.Bush up the middle to OAK 26 for 1 yard.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:09 pm
Deuce…
the quote in the PFT “Punctuating the quietly growing sense of resentment was a team meeting from Saturday night in which Jackson warned players that he’s already looking at free agents and that he won’t hesitate to cut current members of the team and replace them.”…
Can’t believe he’d say this after the Hagan for Housh deal earlier in the week which spelled it out clearly to anyone following the team…
November 7th, 2011 at 3:09 pm
JC was benched for 3 of his first 4 Raider games.
Come on guys, it’s not even close.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:09 pm
“Any NFL team who gets the option run all over ‘em like they’re the University of North Central Florida A&M State Community College School for the Blind, Deaf, & Dumb should consider seceding from the league.”
Hillaious….
November 7th, 2011 at 3:09 pm
This blog trashed him last year after the first game when he slid in tenn and came up a yard short, on a non critical play.
now he is being trashed for not sliding, he just would never be accepted.
too many haters
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No, the blog trashed him for not sliding correctly. Always did.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
L.A. Raider Dave Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 3:05 pm
2 ex Bengals on the roster and now your calling them the Bengals. Are you that stupid.
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True … calling them the Bengals is actually a positive thing since they are 6-2 and we are 4-4 with no 1st and second round picks… thats stupid
November 7th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
DT42 just know that if Palmer was black Mystic1 would be in here defending him like Johnny Cochran!
November 7th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
Thanks Raiding Texans.
These guys think that somehow “pounding the rock” means we’ll just instantly get 4 yards every single down.
The offense did it’s part.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
DT42 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 3:08 pm
mistic, what am i throwing against a wall?? Go back and learn about football……not on an X-box and try again.
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this is your problem? you learned football form xbox?
You said he didnt read the field that he only read half the filed and it was a false statement. you cited check downs to the backs as evidence of your claim. I exposed that fraudulent sentiment by pointing out that the backs are usually the last read for the qb in this offense.
now go away
November 7th, 2011 at 3:11 pm
Time of possession:
Denver 31 minutes
Raiders 28 minutes
That’s not a “worn down” Raider defense.
You know what keeps a defense fresh? Getting off the freakin’ field.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:11 pm
VanHeathen Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 3:09 pm
Deuce…
the quote in the PFT “Punctuating the quietly growing sense of resentment was a team meeting from Saturday night in which Jackson warned players that he’s already looking at free agents and that he won’t hesitate to cut current members of the team and replace them.”…
Can’t believe he’d say this after the Hagan for Housh deal earlier in the week which spelled it out clearly to anyone following the team…
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Im aware of this article. I still dont see a source. But I get at what your saying.
Just dont think its that dire.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:11 pm
Jason has a broken collarbone, get over it already.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
#280
Thanks Alex, had to be said.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
McFadden’s got me worried. If this pattern keeps up how do we let Bush go next year? I’m not that impressed with Taiwan. Without Bush, and McFadden out for weeks at a time, we’ll be throwing the ball 40 times a game…and you know what happens then.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
269.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 3:08 pm
# VanHeathen Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 3:05 pm
Funny thing about the JC love fest today is this:
If JC had EVER learned to slide, like
EVERY NFL Quaterback is taught to do,
we wouldn’t be in this mess to begin with…
Especially since we kept an innept QB as a back up to keep the QB controversy at bay…
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i wish this were true
This blog trashed him last year after the first game when he slid in tenn and came up a yard short, on a non critical play.
now he is being trashed for not sliding, he just would never be accepted.
too many haters
I’m not hating on JC, i wish he was still able to play and none of this had happened…
But, if he’s taking his QB leads from guys spouting off on a blog site, he’s not a starter anyway…
Self preservation has to be PARAMOUNT when you are the FRANCHISE QB, period…if he did care at all about anything written in here, he needs to see a sports psychologist and get to work…
November 7th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
Wimbley had the best statistical game so far this year. lmfao,
November 7th, 2011 at 3:13 pm
Hey Jesus. Your opinion is chit and your a pretty obvious fairweather fan.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:13 pm
RaidingTexas Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 3:09 pm
KoolKell Says:
But, the Raiders defense got worn down, they should have pounded the ball, and wore Denver out
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That quit working about midway through the 3rd quarter. Look at Bush’s last five rushing attempts:
M.Bush right tackle to OAK 21 for 1 yard.
M.Bush right tackle to OAK 22 for 1 yard.
M.Bush left tackle to OAK 28 for 1 yard.
M.Bush left tackle to OAK 31 for 3 yards.
M.Bush up the middle to OAK 26 for 1 yard.
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That’s a good point, but you gotta wonder why no play action, Reece, maybe get Jones involved more in space.
I mean, we were still swinging for the fences.
That’ll be f*ckin awesome once all the timing is sorted out, but this early in, after 8 practices?
November 7th, 2011 at 3:13 pm
Run DMC hasnt even started running?
My fantasy team is screwed.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:13 pm
Alex7 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 3:11 pm
Time of possession:
Denver 31 minutes
Raiders 28 minutes
That’s not a “worn down” Raider defense.
You know what keeps a defense fresh? Getting off the freakin’ field.
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What was the T.O.P in the 2nd half?
November 7th, 2011 at 3:13 pm
Are u guys actually debating if Palmer is better than Campbell?
You saw the game, right?? You’ve seen the last 8 years, right??
November 7th, 2011 at 3:14 pm
Win, Lose or Tie
Rai er til I die.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:14 pm
# LA to TheBay Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 3:09 pm
This blog trashed him last year after the first game when he slid in tenn and came up a yard short, on a non critical play.
now he is being trashed for not sliding, he just would never be accepted.
too many haters
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No, the blog trashed him for not sliding correctly. Always did.
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come on bra, keep it 100
they called him names and said he wasnt tough because he slid in tenn. the slide in tenn was the right play to make, and ther was no issue with the technique of the slide in tenn.
he heard the critisim and decided to go away from the slide as a result he ended up injured. now people are ripping him for it.
Did anyone notice palmer using the head first slide or tebow taking on tacklers yesterday
November 7th, 2011 at 3:14 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 3:13 pm
Alex7 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 3:11 pm
Time of possession:
Denver 31 minutes
Raiders 28 minutes
That’s not a “worn down” Raider defense.
You know what keeps a defense fresh? Getting off the freakin’ field.
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What was the T.O.P in the 2nd half?
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Great question…What was it?..
November 7th, 2011 at 3:15 pm
L.A. Raider Dave Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 3:01 pm
@234…..His most important advancement has been of the Raiders offense. Or do you think we were better with Cable or Lane?
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First of all, you must know I’m talking about professional advancement within an organization. Organizations like to promote from within those who have long-term potential. Hue has no stability with any organization. What does that say about him?
Second, he had his chance as OC with Atlanta. Why didn’t they retain him.
Third, he did make the offence better last year, but he only had one job to do and his play-calling was novel for Raiders’ opponents. But, as you know, NFL teams learn and adjust quickly. We’ll see how good the team’s offensive numbers look at the end of the year. He got the HC job because Al thought that last year’s team was better than 8-8. If that was true, then this year’s team should be at least 10-6. 6-10 is more realistic. Does that sound like “advancement” to you?
November 7th, 2011 at 3:15 pm
“Hey Jesus. Your opinion is chit and your a pretty obvious fairweather fan.”
Good point.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:15 pm
In honor of our teams performance I suggest we all stop using the letter ‘d’.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:16 pm
Hey Duece…
If you’re cool with 15 penalties and ZERO discipline on the field of play, then, yeah the situation isn’t dire at all…
Lame Personal Fouls, 12 men in the huddle, and false start penalties are momentum killers…
These all start with accountability and leadership, both seem to be missing.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:16 pm
KK Munster what are they saying @ the Barbershop?
November 7th, 2011 at 3:16 pm
im out too much fantasy football garbage in here today. ill be back with more reality for you on another day
November 7th, 2011 at 3:17 pm
It’s EASY to replace Bush.
Fred Jackson, Mike Tolbert, Chris Ivory, Arian Foster, Ben Tate, Ahmad Bradshaw, James Stark.
Easy to find quality backs in the middle to late rounds, and even undrafted.
Taiwan Jones is averaging 4.4 yards a carry. He’s going to be just as good as Bush, but more explosive.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:17 pm
This team should be 6-2 if not for a couple of plays. Yes, that sounds like a giant leap forward then the coaching we’ve had since Gruden left.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:18 pm
Mistic,
telling us JC changed the way he played because of fan criticism is not reality.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:19 pm
they called him names and said he wasnt tough because he slid in tenn. the slide in tenn was the right play to make, and ther was no issue with the technique of the slide in tenn.
he heard the critisim and decided to go away from the slide as a result he ended up injured. now people are ripping him for it.
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It was a tough way to go down. He got a lot of heat for not sliding correctly and then he went all out for a first down and winded up getting landed on.
He went out like Bo, fighting for more yardage. I don’t think JC isn’t tough. Quite the contrary. he used to take an absolute beating in Washington and took a pretty good beating here a few times last year.
I like JC. I’m happy we upgraded and I don’t mean that to be an @$$hole or take a dig at you or Campbell. I genuinely feel we’re now better at QB but it’s gonna take some time to get it right.
We’re running out of time this year but with an 8 game season, we’re still alive in the AFC West if not the favorite, despite this last tough loss.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:19 pm
VanHeathen Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 3:16 pm
Hey Duece…
If you’re cool with 15 penalties and ZERO discipline on the field of play, then, yeah the situation isn’t dire at all…
Lame Personal Fouls, 12 men in the huddle, and false start penalties are momentum killers…
These all start with accountability and leadership, both seem to be missing.
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Huh? Im talking about the “quotes coming out of the meeting/locker room” you referred to man. Stay on track.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:19 pm
2nd half time of possession is irrelevant.
They obviously were not GASSED from the first half, so if Denver held the ball longer in the 2nd half it’s because Oakland didn’t get off the field.
Gaping run lanes, dumb penalties, lame blitzes.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:20 pm
L.A. Raider Dave Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 3:13 pm
Hey Jesus. Your opinion is chit and your a pretty obvious fairweather fan.
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Fck u ! I live and die Raiders and It kills me to be in SD and have to listen about the fn Chokers being the greatest thing since sliced bread. I just want the team to WIN and win the division. And If the stupid super chokers win the division I’ll be HEATED! Just want Hue Jax to STFU and start to coach em up again !
November 7th, 2011 at 3:20 pm
Should the carson deal have been made given the real state of the defense?
Could have waited till offseason and got CP for a much lower price. Other vet free agents going for a 2nd round pick.
I could be wrong and this team perks up and goes 6-2. But seriously, could have gone 7-9 with Pryor.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:20 pm
alex7 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 3:11 pm
Time of possession:
Denver 31 minutes
Raiders 28 minutes
That’s not a “worn down” Raider defense.
You know what keeps a defense fresh? Getting off the freakin’ field.
….
You can quote stats all you want. I KNOW WHAT I SAW.
That D-line was gassed by halftime and got pushed around the whole second half.
Go back and watch Denver’s opening drive of the 3rd quarter that ended in a TD.
Then they give up the big run for a TD.
They were stopping Denver at or behind the line in the 1st half but giving up positive yards the entire 2nd half.
They are big and physical but can’t maintain the intensity for 4 quarters.
On 3 days rest they will get abused by SD.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:21 pm
I am Spartacus Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 3:15 pm
L.A. Raider Dave Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 3:01 pm
@234…..His most important advancement has been of the Raiders offense. Or do you think we were better with Cable or Lane?
____________________________
First of all, you must know I’m talking about professional advancement within an organization. Organizations like to promote from within those who have long-term potential. Hue has no stability with any organization. What does that say about him?
Second, he had his chance as OC with Atlanta. Why didn’t they retain him.
Third, he did make the offence better last year, but he only had one job to do and his play-calling was novel for Raiders’ opponents. But, as you know, NFL teams learn and adjust quickly. We’ll see how good the team’s offensive numbers look at the end of the year. He got the HC job because Al thought that last year’s team was better than 8-8. If that was true, then this year’s team should be at least 10-6. 6-10 is more realistic. Does that sound like “advancement” to you?
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I have to agree with Spartacus. And Jackson has arguably much better talent on both sides of the ball than Kiffin or Cable had. And this team is clearly going backwards.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:21 pm
Crushing Loss!
November 7th, 2011 at 3:21 pm
Raiders will beat SD
November 7th, 2011 at 3:21 pm
The play action is going to be awesome when dmac gets back. the good thing is we are starting all over again since we have a new qb good thing we are 4-4 and nobody is ahead of us in the division.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:21 pm
Spartacus,
based on the different schedules from last year and this year (vs NFC West, now vs NFC North)
you can’t just compare records and make a statement about which season was more successful, as far as coaching and production goes.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:21 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 3:20 pm
Should the carson deal have been made given the real state of the defense?
Could have waited till offseason and got CP for a much lower price. Other vet free agents going for a 2nd round pick.
I could be wrong and this team perks up and goes 6-2. But seriously, could have gone 7-9 with Pryor.
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There really is no answer for that until January 2nd.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:22 pm
Misty=Jason Campbell. .. get well soon bro…. Seattle going to need you bad next season.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:22 pm
311. Nope.
SD 4-4
KC 4-4
OAK 4-4
DEN 3-5
Nope.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:22 pm
A wise man once said: “You are what your record says it is” and “You get what you deserve”. I believe Gruden said both. A regressive 6-10 record should get you fired. It would in the real world.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:23 pm
No, I think back-against-the-wall do or die time is a good thing for this team. The playoff chase is real now.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:23 pm
2011 Raiders
best record after 7 games in the LAST 8 YEARS.
And we’re going backwards? When did we become the Packers?
November 7th, 2011 at 3:23 pm
315. There is an answer to that. BS.
Doesn’t know what hes talking about. With Pryor at QB? Hes no where near ready
November 7th, 2011 at 3:24 pm
Alex7 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 3:19 pm
2nd half time of possession is irrelevant.
They obviously were not GASSED from the first half, so if Denver held the ball longer in the 2nd half it’s because Oakland didn’t get off the field.
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Irrelevant, really?
November 7th, 2011 at 3:24 pm
Raiders will beat SD
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Pray to Teblow that Hue Jax goes BEAST MODE with the play calling !
November 7th, 2011 at 3:24 pm
Raider Nation?
November 7th, 2011 at 3:24 pm
What happened to our jumbo off balanced line set where we cram the ball…
November 7th, 2011 at 3:25 pm
spartacus,
if you want to assume we should have the same record playing the Packers, Lions, Bears, Patriots, and Jets…
as when we played the Rams, Seahawks, Cardinals, and Jaguars…
come on.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:25 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 3:20 pm
Should the carson deal have been made given the real state of the defense?
Could have waited till offseason and got CP for a much lower price. Other vet free agents going for a 2nd round pick.
I could be wrong and this team perks up and goes 6-2. But seriously, could have gone 7-9 with Pryor.
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Yes, anytime you can pick up a Pro Bowl caliber marquee Q you do it. Especially if you don’t have one. In the off season, we probably would have had to compete with 7 or 8 other teams to sign try to sign him. It’s not worth it to wait and end up with nothing. As for Pryor, he is not ready for prime time. Pryor would make Boller look like Johnny Freaking U out there right now. And if you rush Pryor in there you could ruin him instead of having him learn from Palmer (See Rodgers, Aaron)
November 7th, 2011 at 3:25 pm
GoodOle00
They don’t get that the trade was a must.
Pryor will only be that much better after hanging out with Carson for a few seasons, IMO.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:25 pm
Playoff’s? Seriously? get real.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:25 pm
LA To TheBay Says:
That’s a good point, but you gotta wonder why no play action, Reece, maybe get Jones involved more in space.
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Well that ties back into my original argument that the coach/GM is the problem.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:25 pm
alex7 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 3:23 pm
2011 Raiders
best record after 7 games in the LAST 8 YEARS.
And we’re going backwards? When did we become the Packers?
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Great perspective.
Did the Raiders & Raider Nation buy into the media polishing?..
November 7th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
You can lose a locker room really quickly when things like injuries make winning more difficult, and Hue risks that if indeed he has not been honest with players.
Louis Murphy caught a ball long after it mattered late 4th quarter, and then spun it for a penalty–tells me he was thumbing his nose at Hue. Personally, I don’t give a darn about Murphy, but his action tells me, along with all the other penalties, that a bunch of guys are playing with a “I don’t give a damn” attitude.
It could get really, really ugly in San Diego. Hopefully the offense won’t stop blocking for the only qb they have, and like it or not, our franchise qb.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
Yes KK
irrelevant.
Raiders dominated 1st half time of possession.
Thus, defense was fresh for 2nd half.
Defense got trashed 2nd half.
That’s their fault. Simple. Nothing to do with offense not holding the ball long enough 2nd half. Get off the field.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:27 pm
We need tO come out angry on thrusday and we have to make some one pay , we need to kick chargers butt and let them have it for 60 minutes .. Yah baby get this train back on track …
November 7th, 2011 at 3:28 pm
I am Spartacus Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 3:22 pm
A wise man once said: “You are what your record says it is” and “You get what you deserve”.
alex7 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 3:23 pm
2011 Raiders
best record after 7 games in the LAST 8 YEARS.
And we’re going backwards? When did we become the Packers?
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Another wise man said “you are only as good as your last at bat. Or last two at bats in this case.” Based on that, we ARE going backwards. Rapidly.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:28 pm
alex7 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 3:21 pm
Spartacus,
based on the different schedules from last year and this year (vs NFC West, now vs NFC North)
you can’t just compare records and make a statement about which season was more successful, as far as coaching and production goes.
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Alex, you’re argument appears sound on the surface. But if that were true, then every Super Bowl winner over the past 40+ years should have an asterisk beside it to qualify the achievement based strength of schedule, number of “lucky” breaks, absence of injuries, ad infinitum. Your record is what your record says it is.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:29 pm
All the jokes aside and anger aside just imagine that these two ass whippings could have b blessing in disguise and we might just get on fire and kill everyone on the way…? Anyone?
November 7th, 2011 at 3:29 pm
sigh……………..i would love a win in SD. If all the talk of the team turning on Hue is true, there is little hope of coming out angry. Obviously Boss is not happy and neither can Heyward-Bey be.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:30 pm
To win on thurs JaCarson just needs to throw less picks then Rivers at least . Will DMAC be back ?
November 7th, 2011 at 3:30 pm
Yes defense got worn down in the 2nd half, as a result of getting pounded for 275 yds of rushing in the 2nd half.
The Raiders should have been pounding the ball instead.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:31 pm
If we see a completely opposite defense Thursday night, and Rivers throws a couple of pick-sixes, i suppose we could win………………………….
November 7th, 2011 at 3:31 pm
Yep, your record is what it says it is.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:32 pm
spart,
I’m not saying our record is any different. But there’s no way I look at our schedule and think Hue has to win more than 8 games to prove he’s got the team headed in the right direction.
The fact we beat the Jets and Texans, hung in with the Patriots, that already shows me we’re going to be ok (assuming we fix the D).
And Hue has nothing, zero, zilch to do with this D.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:32 pm
Who’s gonna cover Vincent Jackson? Cause the Chargers will just line him up on the opposite side of wherever Routt is..
And we wont make that adjustment..
November 7th, 2011 at 3:32 pm
When is Hue Jax presser? I can’t wait to hear today’s “story”.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:33 pm
I’ll tell you one thing, though. If I sit through that game freezing my a$$ off and I see the kind of lousy, uninspired, lazy play that i saw yesterday – I am truly going to be angry.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:33 pm
KK
you don’t pound the ball through words. You have to actually do it.
Bush didn’t run effectively in the 2nd half. If he had, he’d gotten more carries to continue.
Tebow and McGahee did.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:33 pm
I saw here earlier that people were complaining about Routt and Gio.Where are the Huff complaints?He gave up 2 td passes and looked like he was sleep walking out there.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:33 pm
DeuceDeuce Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 3:32 pm
Who’s gonna cover Vincent Jackson? Cause the Chargers will just line him up on the opposite side of wherever Routt is..
And we wont make that adjustment..
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Lito Sheppard …
November 7th, 2011 at 3:34 pm
Yeah, we can sit here a talk about the offense and Hue’s decisions all day because we don’t agree with them, but that NOT why we loss this game.
THE DEFENSE CAPITULATED!
November 7th, 2011 at 3:34 pm
Sorry, Alex. Hue is the CEO of the product on the field on Sundays. The buck stops with him. It can’t be any other way.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:35 pm
True enough. We have to see the season played out. But the mounting evidence suggests a defense not ready for prime time.
Terrible 2nd halves all year against ok opponents.
I think anything less than 9-7 is a bad move. We got Palmernow instead of offseason cause the raiders thought they could make a dEep playoff run now.
A level headed GM would have evaluated this defense and young receiving corps appropriately and said that CP probably isn’t going to be enough given his style of play and that of Hue with a gunslinger.
Truth is this defense can’t be on the field much, and every INT or quick R and out just exposes them more.
CP needs to super charge this offense with points if they are going to be quick strike
November 7th, 2011 at 3:35 pm
Oh, and i forgot the fact that there wasn’t a Raider in sight for both those touchdown catches. What do you think Rivers will do with that?
November 7th, 2011 at 3:36 pm
What’s good ghost?
November 7th, 2011 at 3:36 pm
Raiding Texas already showed Bush’s last 5 carries:
M.Bush right tackle to OAK 21 for 1 yard.
M.Bush right tackle to OAK 22 for 1 yard.
M.Bush left tackle to OAK 28 for 1 yard.
M.Bush left tackle to OAK 31 for 3 yards.
M.Bush up the middle to OAK 26 for 1 yard.
Can’t exactly pound the ball when that’s your output.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:36 pm
That’s right, you don’t pound the rock with words. You have to actually call those plays.
Bush 19 rush attempts. Not enough.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:36 pm
Yeah, i can see how losing your starting QB and then have a 2 game losing streak because of growing paings can be all Hue’s fault. IF he was really a good coach, Boller would have thrown for 4 TD’s, or he could have traded or signed all those other available QB’s that are way better then Palmer or Campbell. Is that where he went wrong? Or maybe everyone is over reacting like usual?
November 7th, 2011 at 3:37 pm
The defense embarrassed themselves. They couldnt defend a simple option even after practicing all week! I don’t think some of these players studied Denver. It was ridiculous to see that sht. Absolutely no excuse for that garbage.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:37 pm
SnB
were we a playoff contender with JC? Yes (weak division).
How the heck would a level-headed GM think otherwise with Palmer?
We’re tied for 1st place…………
November 7th, 2011 at 3:38 pm
what the hell is going on in the locker room? jeeesh. Hue Jackson is starting to creep me out. Nobody pulled this type of inhouse politics zhiyt before, not even Art “1000 yard stare” Shell sidelined people like that.
Is hue high on power? low in self esteem? way over his head? infected by the same disease that turned Chuky into a world class idiot?
November 7th, 2011 at 3:38 pm
Our 8th game of the season an we still have our secondary guys looking confused at least once a quarter…i’d hope after the Buffalo debacle that we’d have patched it up, but here we go again…
November 7th, 2011 at 3:38 pm
LA Dave, keeping it real.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:39 pm
“And Hue has nothing,zero,zilch to do with this D”-Not according to Hue!
November 7th, 2011 at 3:39 pm
that turned Chuky B into a world class idiot?..
November 7th, 2011 at 3:39 pm
Macho, Art did sideline Jerry Porter.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
stop talkin about Hue Jackson as CEO .. He’s only responsible for 5 players on this team Palmer TJ lito curry and chukwe…
November 7th, 2011 at 3:41 pm
The secondary looking confused and not knowing what to do is just a strategy Routt taught the rest of the fellas: Look confused and get the big contract, a story by Stanford Routt.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:41 pm
Bad teams beat themselves with penalties, every week in the NFL!
November 7th, 2011 at 3:41 pm
Well, i just hope if CP isn’t doing well Thurs night that the chargers fans don’t start chanting “Palmer Sucks, Palmer Sucks”.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:41 pm
Hue didn’t:
-bring these D players in (except for Curry, which has been a steal).
-implement outdated scheme last 20 years.
- put two pass-rushing DTs to stop the run.
- hire Chuck B. after everyone else said “no thanks.”
- forbid our transformation to the modern 3-4 look that works wonders (Texans, 2011).
November 7th, 2011 at 3:42 pm
Art sidelined Porter, but was man about it, told him to take a hike and immediatly told the Press…Hue is just going all Machiavelan on the team.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:42 pm
Hue can say that Lefty but you and me know he may look over the whole show but the day to day prep and all falls on Chuck B.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:42 pm
Ha, Tooz. That was kicking the sleeping dog, huh! Couldn’t believe they were chanting that in a one-score game.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:44 pm
i dont post here much here anymore,but i put these last two loses on hue jackson.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:44 pm
Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 3:38 pm
what the hell is going on in the locker room? jeeesh. Hue Jackson is starting to creep me out. Nobody pulled this type of inhouse politics zhiyt before, not even Art “1000 yard stare” Shell sidelined people like that.
Is hue high on power? low in self esteem? way over his head? infected by the same disease that turned Chuky into a world class idiot?
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He is on a power trip! You would think that after that beating against KC he would get his act together. But no instead he spends his time signing ex-bengal players and looking at free agents…
November 7th, 2011 at 3:44 pm
lefty12 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 3:39 pm
“And Hue has nothing,zero,zilch to do with this D”-Not according to Hue!
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Jackson’s the head coach. He BETTER be in the defensive team meetings. Unless he has a defense he is thrilled with.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:44 pm
Hue has much more to do with the offense than the defense. I think we can agree on that.
I do not like the decision with respect to DHB. The offense is not expected to look smooth as butter with a new QB but clearly DHB could have helped given his hot hand and is the most productive WR out there. Maybe the Boss situation is about slowly working him back in as he’s missed lots of time with injuries. Maybe. DHB – no excuse.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:45 pm
Im out.
Go Rai ers
November 7th, 2011 at 3:46 pm
Bush 19 carries, Taiwan Jones 2 carries.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:46 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
stop talkin about Hue Jackson as CEO .. He’s only responsible for 5 players on this team Palmer TJ lito curry and chukwe…
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You’re joking, right?
November 7th, 2011 at 3:47 pm
Someone tell HUE not to take too much of that Irish coffee before the damn games! oh, and tell Chuky B to layoff the damned moonshine, its starting to affect his 30th ranked D.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:47 pm
TheToozFan55 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 3:41 pm
Well, i just hope if CP isn’t doing well Thurs night that the chargers fans don’t start chanting “Palmer Sucks, Palmer Sucks”.
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They won’t … They will be chanting JaMarcus ! Jamarcus! trust me…And I will be yelling RYAN LEAF RYAN LEAF ! SUPER CHOKE SUPER CHOKE ! NO RINGs NO RINGS ! LOL
November 7th, 2011 at 3:48 pm
Alex7 – That really pissed me off. There’s a reason Denver came back…………….the chanting, Tebow leaving his lip bloody, etc. I knew the minute i heard that cheering that something was going to go wrong. you just don’t do that. sheesh. i could not believe my ears.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:48 pm
Mistic1, you stopped making sense a long time ago. I would try to explain the QB position to you but I can see your on Tim Tebow’s level of QB IQ. Your blow up Jason Campbell doll awaits. Just go easy on him, his shoulder is still hurting.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:48 pm
We ran the ball enough to win. The defense just capitulated. PERIOD!
Bush is a good back but he’s not consistent. He picks up yards in chunks here and there. Some of those runs DMC would’ve taken much further if not to the endzone.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:50 pm
Hue just said on his press conference he and Bres. worked together to implement the defensive game plan to stop Tebow.He then said the usual crap that the scheme and the game plan wasn’t the problem it was the execution.If your problem is the plan,Hue is as much at fault as Bres.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:50 pm
Yeah, Jesus, you’ll be there too! Along with many other pi$$ed off Raiders fans. It is going to be a dangerous mix. I just hope they don’t attack or spit on a 55 year old women with her 16 year old kid in tow.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:50 pm
Can anyone address why Palmer is always throwing INTs when throwing to Moore??? Something is up with that. Moore has been struggling for weeks now.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:50 pm
In other news. Good game tonight, gonna keep an eye on Nnamdi, see if he pulls the same dazed-and-confused routine Routt likes to do during games.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:50 pm
DT42 Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 3:48 pm
Mistic1, you stopped making sense a long time ago. I would try to explain the QB position to you but I can see your on Tim Tebow’s level of QB IQ. Your blow up Jason Campbell doll awaits. Just go easy on him, his shoulder is still hurting.
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Please explain the QB position to JaCarson Pickner he could use your Madden QB experience …
November 7th, 2011 at 3:51 pm
383-Terrapin,I was there and couldn’t either-pure high school BS.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:52 pm
What’s going Mcf20. .. I only hit 1-4 parlay.. lost $50.. Buffalo killed me… I wouldn’t listen.. LOL.. oh well.. maybe next week.
Raiders killed me as well… I thought it would be a 10 point win. 27-17
November 7th, 2011 at 3:53 pm
Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 3:50 pm
In other news. Good game tonight, gonna keep an eye on Nnamdi, see if he pulls the same dazed-and-confused routine Routt likes to do during games.
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Nnamdi will be 4-4 just like us after tonights game …
November 7th, 2011 at 3:53 pm
Jesus-you do realize WRs are supposed to catch passes,not tip them into the air where they more than likely will be intercepted?Moore has done that twice with Palmers passes.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:54 pm
It definitely had a lot to do with execution. Wimbley not containing the edge on that Teabow run was embarrassing! The defense getting parted like the Red Sea was embarrassing!
As well, Chuck B called some defense that got exposed BIG TIME! LBs EXPOSED!
Chuck B calls that defense and players have to execute. Hue may have some influence in playa prep but I think quite frankly most of that falls on Chuck B. – hence the title, DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR
November 7th, 2011 at 3:54 pm
Difference between Raiders defense and a dollar?
You still get 4 quarters out of a dollar.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:54 pm
Sad to see we have a losing record at home.. 2-3.. that’s definitely not going to get it done!! We need to win at home if we want to go far. .. it doesn’t look good. .
November 7th, 2011 at 3:54 pm
Oakland #10 in offense.
Oakland #27 in defense.
Yep, obviously all the offense’s/Hue’s fault.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:54 pm
Peace out yall … Hue Jax get ur sh1t together …
CODE BLACK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 7th, 2011 at 3:56 pm
TerrapinRaider Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 3:50 pm
Can anyone address why Palmer is always throwing INTs when throwing to Moore??? Something is up with that. Moore has been struggling for weeks now.
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Sure, Moore is not used to going up against Pro caliber corners. Champ Bailey literally ripped the rock from him on one and outjumped him for another. A couple of others have bounced off his mits and turned into picks. In college those balls would most likely fall harmlessly, but pro DB’s are so fast they are constantly around the ball. Going at Bailey even this late in his career was not the wisest thing to do. With Rahim Moore out early, they should have attacked their backup safety more in my opinion.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:58 pm
LOL Wasbanned.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:58 pm
Misty.. Debo.. and now even Jesus … Palmer detractors!! Anyone else want to join this list.. because when he plays well.. I’m comming back for them… it wasn’t his fault we lost but it wasn’t his best either… these three are just haters..
November 7th, 2011 at 3:59 pm
Gotta agree. DMoore vs Champ Bailey not our best matchup. Jacoby was tearing it up!
Really excited about DMoore at the start of the season. Right now, I think hes on the level with Murphy, Chaz, and TJ Hosh, which is pretty low.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:59 pm
The only defense i saw was TJ Housh preventing yet another INT.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:59 pm
Terrapin,don’t get me wrong,I am no fan of Bresnahan.I’m just pointing out everything isn’t his fault alone and that the HC seems to support his efforts and is blaming the players,not Bres.
November 7th, 2011 at 3:59 pm
As for the penalties Hue stayed one step short of calling his team the “stupidest team in America” by calling it: Our players don’t play intelligently.
For crying out loud how stupid is Seymour pulling face mask of the player who’s already whistled down? And he’s the captain of this defense. How many stupid penalties has this guy had aloe? And where the F was he in second half? Did he even play in 2nd half? I sure couldn’t see him there when donkeys were running their college offense.
This was one of the craziest 30 minutes of sorry display of football I’ve ever witnessed. Thank you Hue for building such a bull(y) crap!
November 7th, 2011 at 4:01 pm
Alex… facts wont help man.. haters will be haters..lol
November 7th, 2011 at 4:02 pm
I’m not hatin’ on Palmer at all. However, i am somewhat nonplussed that instead of playing a more conservative game (ala Jason Campbell) UNTIL HE GETS MORE COMFORTABLE, he’s throwing into crowds. Just sayin’. Don’t understand that.
November 7th, 2011 at 4:02 pm
Palmer is better than Campbell that much is clear. That offense is getting by now off of Palmer talent not continuity, familiarity or anything remotely fine-tuned from months of practice. Its Palmer’s ability. Period!
You can tell he is not totally comfortable yet. Yet we still can move the ball and scored 24pts WITHOUT three top dogs DMC DHB & BOSS! Without time, he will be deadly in this offense.
November 7th, 2011 at 4:03 pm
You have to stick with the run game. Someone go get the rushing stats for stephen jackson or MJD. You gotta commit to runing the baLl and stick with it.
Alex, 1st place with JC and a conservative offense that unintentionally tended to limit turnovers. Anyway, a lot to ask that a QB off the street will get it together in time to make a difference. By the time his timing is down, season will be lost.
I would have waited till offseason. No way any team would have outbid hue jackson and two 1st round picks. No way! The reall crappy teams would go to draft. Only Raiders would have given up two 1sts. Would have got a better deal in offseason. But Hue didn’t have a backup prepared
November 7th, 2011 at 4:08 pm
Mike Mayock’s take on raiders defense…
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/07/mayock-breaks-down-afc-west-race/
Raiders were prepared for QB draws and QB runs but when Denver went to unbalanced line with no TE or WR to wide side of field for the Zone Read Option Oakland shifted over and and DE’s were unprepared.
Wimbley and Moss were both burnt on these plays at critical times.
The interior of the D-line was exposed by McGahee in the 2nd half especially on the huge run for a TD.
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Here is another person contradicting Hue Jackson.
Hue said scheme wasn’t the problem, just execution.
Yet an analyst who was given special treatment and access to raiders practice this week says team was not prepared for the Zone Read Option.
November 7th, 2011 at 4:09 pm
Boss speaking out against his playing time. I won’t be surprised if Boss is standing on the sidelines while B. Myers and R. Gordon are on the field when using double TE sets. If Hue loses that locker room the season will be pretty much over.
November 7th, 2011 at 4:11 pm
The same people ripping on Palmer will be the same that give props to the defense only if we beat SD 24-20… LOL.. the line has been drawn in sand by some here… it doesn’t matter how he does.. I just know he’s an upgrade from what we had… and just remember. . Were still missing our best player with dmac. .
November 7th, 2011 at 4:12 pm
So, that article said that Hue had a team meeting Saturday night and threatened to let go players and bring in free agents?
Do you believe we had a team meeting Sat. night for a home game?
November 7th, 2011 at 4:14 pm
Ghostraiders Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 3:58 pm
Misty.. Debo.. and now even Jesus … Palmer detractors!! Anyone else want to join this list.. because when he plays well.. I’m comming back for them… it wasn’t his fault we lost but it wasn’t his best either… these three are just haters..
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There’s something else at play for Misty. It will always be something with that cat. You watch. Palmer can play lights out, we go deep into the playoffs, and that cat will find a way to criticize Palmer, say that JC could have done it better, and praise the rest if the team. Calling it now, ghost.
November 7th, 2011 at 4:18 pm
hues playcalling is to blame
November 7th, 2011 at 4:21 pm
Banana. . Your right bro… I wonder if they can atleast admit that he played a whole lot better than he did vs k.c. ?? But no? They want to hold him accountable for that game as well… pathetic!! If he starts playing bad… starts trashing and blaming people. . I can understand. . But he barely has one game under his belt.. its ridiculous man!! … misty is still dealing with his depression after jc got injured… jc was never our best player..dmac is!!… he’s more important than we know..
November 7th, 2011 at 4:29 pm
Another perfect example of Hue Jackson being a punk and not utilizing the weapons we have on offense. We are the most talented team in the NFL on offense, and we have a wanna-be rex ryan running the show. I give it another month and he will have lost the locker room completely. Sad day in Raider Nation
November 7th, 2011 at 4:38 pm
why would u sign this guy to a 4 yr contract and not let him play!!!? Hue get ur head out ur azz and start using him more in the passing game!
November 7th, 2011 at 5:03 pm
Palmer is not leading right side recievers properly, and is throwing behind them, that’s his picks, did it again yesterday, recievers had to actually back up to try to make the play. Defence, left it in the locker room at the half. Disgusting! Second half, should of pounded rock, dink n dunk, moved chains, controlled clock. We did nothing. There’s more to this than the locker room, first half was played well, but there are two more quarters to play, and we didn’t show up and execute. I’m still sick to my stomach of this loss. Unacceptable! Eat it Hue, this one’s on you!
November 7th, 2011 at 5:13 pm
Carson Palmer is a joke. Just like Hue is turning out to be. JC isn’t Brady or Manning but he was running the show efficently. It really shows how much Al meant to this team. Can’t beleive Hue came out and said he wanted TJ during training camp, and Al Davis over ruled him. But the first thing he does before the dirt was thrown over Al is go get TJ. So much disrespect.
November 7th, 2011 at 5:20 pm
Yea right….Soup was given only half the field to read….??? No he was supposed to read the man to man coverage in a cover 2 zone defense….Congratulations, he had that down….
November 7th, 2011 at 5:47 pm
Whatever his responsibilities were, he did it well and led the team to a 4-2 record. Apparently the other teams couldn’t figure it out to stop it.So half read or full read, he got the job done.
November 7th, 2011 at 5:51 pm
The best thing that could happen right now would be for Mark Davis to tell Hue that there will be no more personnel moves this year, and to concentrate on coaching the players he has.
Unfortunately, we have to wait until the season is over to interview any GM candidate that is currently employed by an NFL team. Until then, Hue is the head coach, and that’s all he is. And he’d better step it up. I don’t care what the current propaganda is, he and his defensive coordinator got outcoached on Sunday. You can try and BS the fans and the media and your team all you want, but once everybody figures what’s really going on it’s curtains.
The window is getting smaller. And don’t give me anything about not being realistic, or being impatient. Hue was the one that told us what he was going to do. He got his ass kicked by an inferior team on Sunday. Period.
November 7th, 2011 at 7:41 pm
What’s going on with this team???????????
November 7th, 2011 at 7:51 pm
I’ve lost faith in Hue and I will say this with no apologies or regret and i’ll happily eat my words if he proves me wrong but i miss Tom Cable.
I didn’t like it when Cable got fired. I talked myself into liking Hue cuz of the way he ran the offense and I bought into his bulls..t.
Gonna fix the penalties? Yeah right. Instill discipline? It is obvious to everyone that this is the most UN-disciplined team in the league.
Worse than losing the team is this: LOSING THE GAMES.
November 7th, 2011 at 8:30 pm
Also, i think once the season is over that Chuckee B is done after this season for sure…. He is the last stamp Al put on this defense…. He listened to Al by pretended to be d coordinator…. He calls the plays and coaches fundamentals but he was never the innovator o this defense….. Al was…. Hue wanted the coach from the jets that wasn’t t given permission to speak to…. Chuckee B is the equivalent of Tom Walsh…. Once he is gone we will be much better…. This defense is fast and powerful once a good coach puts those guys in place and a proven veteran linebacker is picked up to teach these guys how to attack and not react then we will see improvement….
November 7th, 2011 at 9:59 pm
Starting to despise Hue. At times he is a real douche bag. I guess I would be too if I were in over my head as much as Hue is.
November 8th, 2011 at 4:04 am
I couldn’t even blog yesterday. Sick of losing the games we should win. Denver lost 45-10 the week before and the QB was dissed by players. This always happens, we lose to guys who aren’t NFL ready yet. Bresnahan, gotta go. Need a DEF CO who can do more than call a blitz. Someone who can bait QB into making bad throws for INTs, showing one coverage and changing once the ball is snapped. Where is the run DEF? How do LB’s just block themselves? Run into clogged gaps without the wherewithal to leave enough separation to disengage and track the ball carrier. Blackstock left some huge holes, but so does McClean uniform, I mean McClain
November 8th, 2011 at 4:09 am
I watched Lance Briggs for the bears and he was playing football. Do we have LB’s that can diagnose plays? Hue, not playing Boss, for what? He could stay in and help protect the QB as well as Myers (whom I like good, but not to play the guy, WTF) and not play DHB? We been working on his confidence, how does this help? Other than some late receptions by Moore, what were the WR’s doing? It was good to see Schilens make a few plays, but we got out coached by ourselves for a change.
November 8th, 2011 at 4:25 am
This started at halftime of last weeks KC game. Bush had around 90 yds rushing in first half and we’re down only 21 to 7 at home. Hue comes out and calls 3 consecutive pass plays for Boller, 2 of which were throws he cannot make and guess what; INT! All this so Hue could justify putting Palmer in prematurely. Had he kept with the running game and short passes for Boller and got within 21 – 14 who knows what would’ve happened. Subsequently, they only finished with 121 yds rushing in the game just so Hue could air it out for 3 more picks. As many have said here someone needs to reel in Hue’s a#s because there is absolutely no reason Boss and DHB should be spectatros. The D sucked and needs to make amends; but, it’s going to be sad to watch Hue sink this talented ship in such a weak division.
November 8th, 2011 at 7:39 am
[...] said Heyward-Bey’s offensive packages just didn’t factor in to Sunday’s gameplan. The same was true for tight end Kevin Boss, who didn’t get on the field except for on special [...]
November 8th, 2011 at 2:32 pm
Re:71
Didn’t think it was a serious score. Sorry. It also is a pain when people write 78-16 without listing a team.
Will repair soon. Operating on wing and prayer computer at the moment. Using tv as monitor and very old computer and keyboard think the mouse might be okay.
November 8th, 2011 at 4:16 pm
THE RAIDER PREDICTION BOARD
Dedicated to the legacy of Al Davis
Protected by the rally squirrel and Coliseum rodents
First: Ghostraider (exact score)
Second: Sullivan44
Third: Pretty Rick
Fourth: Sullivan44
Fifth: Fingers
Sixth: Zymurge Raiders 23, Browns 17
Honorable Mention: LA for PAIN
Seventh: Noone…at all.
Eighth: TBA.
antispy3 Raiders 27 Dischargers 24
Jesus Super Chokers 35 – Oakland 17 …
saladfingerz Raiders 9 49ers 17
November 10th, 2011 at 6:49 am
KRUNKPHY – “Al Davis” (Prod. by KRUNKPHY) WOW!!!! RAIDER NATION!!! BEST TRACK EVER!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60-x4MFhiW0
November 15th, 2011 at 12:41 am
kurabiye tarifleri resimli…
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