Palmer, Raiders eager to erase Denver debacle
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, November 7th, 2011 at 5:57 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Carson Palmer is so eager to get the taste of the Denver loss out of his mouth he said he wished the Raiders played tonight.
Yes, he was exaggerating to make a point. But it might not be a bad thing to have to move on so quickly to something else given face-plant performed by the Raiders on Sunday.
Now matter how bad they looked, the Raiders are tied for first place. Should they beat San Diego Thursday night, and Tebow an work his magic for another week in Kansas City on Sunday, the Raiders could end up all alone in first place with a 5-4 record.
That was the prevailing theme Monday as the Raiders got a head start on San Diego, even having a walkthrough as an introduction to the Chargers.
A few notes compiled while subbing for Steve Corkran:
– Coach Hue Jackson insists it’s nothing personal with regard to wide receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey and tight end Kevin Boss. They simply weren’t included in some position groups which just happened to play a lot against Denver. So they hardly played at all.
Jackson conceded he possibly could have conveyed that news better heading into the game, but that both probably could have realized before hand it could happen just by the look of the game plan. He said neither player is being disciplined. Jackson is fine with some hurt feelings _ he’d rather have the upset about not playing than seeming not to care.
– I floated the idea to both Palmer and Jackson that they had tried to do a little too much against Denver in terms of position groups, a no-huddle offense, etc. It almost seemed as if they used the extra bye week time to trick up the game plan and dazzle Denver instead of simply knocking the Broncos over.
Why not be a little more basic and just run Michael Bush 25 times?
Of course, neither agreed.
Jackson said the reason Bush did as well as he did was that those position groups and extra-receiver sets brougth about the nickel defenses that Bush (19 carries, 96 yards) was running so well against. Palmer, even with his limited time, said he was fine with the game plan and the amount he needed to retain.
– Spotted safety Michael Huff wearing a boot on his left foot as he continues to struggle with an ankle injury. Probably precautionary. We’ll see as the week of practice progresses.
– What was the point of watching film of Tim Tebow read optioning his way to 112 yards rushing and setting up Willis McGahee for 163 yards when the Raiders won’t see that kind of offense the rest of the season?
The need to correct basic assignment football, according to Jackson as well as defensive tackle Richard Seymour and defensive coordinator Chuck Bresnahan.
Bresnahan said film work included eight or nine plays from the first half when the defense did most things right, juxtaposed with second half film which showed them doing just about everything wrong. Bresnahan called it “disturbing” and promised to get it fixed. He said he wants off the roller coaster.
Oakland had given up just 3.2 yards per carry and 274 yards rushing in their previous free games before Denver hung a 298 on the board.
– Didn’t seem to be a lot of chemistry issues in the locker room, although there was a Profootballtalk.co report which said players had begun wonder about Jackson in light of a Saturday night team meeting in which he said he was already lining up free agents for those who didn’t do their jobs.
Checked in privately with one player about it and got a blank, bewildered expression as if he had zero idea what I could be talking about. Not saying it didn’t happen, but I would suggest to be a little bit skeptical about unsourced stories done from a distance.
It’s midseason, a little early for even the Raiders to be coming apart at the seams.
We’ll know soon enough if the Raiders are tuning out Hue based based on their play. Both in the Denver post game and on Monday, Jackson has been calmer, more reasonable, a little more restrained. Most good coaches take that tact with their teams in times of trouble rather than going scorched earth.
When the guy at the top panics, the team will surely follow.
– The Raiders injury report as submitted to the league:
Did not practice
T Khalif Barnes (shoulder), QB Jason Campbell (collarbone), CB Chimdi Chekwa (hamstring), S Michael Huff (ankle), K Sebastian Janikowski (left hamstring), CB Chris Johnson (groin, hamstring), RB Darren McFadden (foot), C Samson Satele (knee), DT Richard Seymour (ankle), CB DeMarcus Van Dyke (hamstring)
Limited participation
RB Rock Cartwright (calf), LB Rolando McClain (ankle), S Michael Mitchell (ankle), QB Carson Palmer (quadricep), RB Marcel Reece (shoulder)
Full participation
S Matt Giordano (shoulder)
– Didn’t get a chance to mention it Sunday because we didn’t have some of the pertinent information, but the halftime show during which Sgt. Michael Eaton was reunited with his family in the guise of a field goal kicking contest was top of the line.
It was a set up engineered by Lifetime television with the help of the Raiders for a series which reunites soldiers with their families. Eaton has been stationed in both Afganistan and Iraq. He served as the place kick holder wearing a Raiders uniform including a helmet with a shield so his kids couldn’t see his face.
Eaton and his wife Tonya have four children and live in Arkansas.
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November 7th, 2011 at 6:00 pm
I was wondering what the halftime deal was…
November 7th, 2011 at 6:01 pm
edward teach Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 5:55 pm
edward teach Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 5:51 pm
The best thing that could happen right now would be for Mark Davis to tell Hue that there will be no more personnel moves this year, and to concentrate on coaching the players he has.
Unfortunately, we have to wait until the season is over to interview any GM candidate that is currently employed by an NFL team. Until then, Hue is the head coach, and that’s all he is. And he’d better step it up. I don’t care what the current propaganda is, he and his defensive coordinator got outcoached on Sunday. You can try and BS the fans and the media and your team all you want, but once everybody figures what’s really going on it’s curtains.
The window is getting smaller. And don’t give me anything about not being realistic, or being impatient. Hue was the one that told us what he was going to do. He got his ass kicked by an inferior team on Sunday. Period.
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Best post I’ve read today.
November 7th, 2011 at 6:03 pm
JLofty is eager to erase that horrid, rancid second half of football from my tiny adhd brain.
Luckily the past 9-10 years have honed my ability to do so with remarkable efficiency. Thanks Tom Walsh, Art Shell, Bill Callahan and Lance Muffin for the gift of putting putrid football behind me….
November 7th, 2011 at 6:05 pm
Now rooting for Mike Vick to score a hundred points (hopefully by himself) and the Eagles to fumble a dozen times. And the Bears to get 3 special teams/defensive scores. Oh heck maybe 4….
November 7th, 2011 at 6:07 pm
Hue Jackson is full of sh!t.
He had no answer for weak azz college offense.
He has no answer and no plan for addressing penalties. Said as much in press conference.
Team scored 1 time in 2nd half while DHB and Boss sat on the sidelines.
unacceptable.
November 7th, 2011 at 6:07 pm
I guess we are not building a bully any more,that was just for al davis to get the job.
November 7th, 2011 at 6:08 pm
So did Hugh Jackson blame the loss on sleep apnea?
November 7th, 2011 at 6:08 pm
How can you expect the players to be disciplined when the head coach is as undisciplined as Jackson is.
Build a bully = season high penalties
Losing Al was the worst thing that could have happened to Jackson.
He has too much power and he’s drunk with it.
November 7th, 2011 at 6:09 pm
sick of hue and his excuses….sorry al you chose wrong. John madden please come and right this ship, some fans think the raider history starts ten years ago….
November 7th, 2011 at 6:11 pm
why did hagan have to earn playing time and tj did not and how was he in certain packages when he was here for only 3 practices?
November 7th, 2011 at 6:11 pm
Piss off all you haters. You’ll be kissing his ass when we get in the playoffs. Fair-weather fan morons!
November 7th, 2011 at 6:14 pm
Where was the defense in the Second half. They laid down like Linda Lovelace in Deep Throat. They should be ashamed of the way the played the second half. The offense scored enough points to win. I don’t blame Hue for this loss. It’s on the defnese. They need to play 4 quarters of football. period..
November 7th, 2011 at 6:15 pm
its going to be tough..the chargers are also coming of two losses … are at home and by what ive seen lately…a team just as talented(if not more!) but better prepared for this type of situation…not looking good..we needed to win last week to have a cushion in this already hungry division
November 7th, 2011 at 6:18 pm
Palmer, Raiders eager to erase Denver debacle
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Duh!
November 7th, 2011 at 6:18 pm
chuck Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 6:11 pm
why did hagan have to earn playing time and tj did not and how was he in certain packages when he was here for only 3 practices?
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your not supposed to remember when he said that.
that was true last week, but not true this week. (bullsh!tter)
November 7th, 2011 at 6:20 pm
Afc west stinks. .. only nfc west sucks more…. only the division winner will make the playoffs… no wildcard comming outta here.. that’s foe sure!!
November 7th, 2011 at 6:22 pm
Tebow Tebow Tebow
Can the Raiders really be the dumbest team in America?
Does Hue have words for Dick Seymour after that face mask? Who is wearin the pants on this club?
I hope the Raiders are more concerned about winning in San Diego than they were about Denver at home. My My My….
Un Fkng Horses Ass On A Hot Plate Loaded With Some Jizz Believable.
November 7th, 2011 at 6:22 pm
I thought they wanted to erase the chiefs debacle…LOL… I guess after we play SD we will be wanting to erase the SD debacle in Minnesota. .. ..
November 7th, 2011 at 6:23 pm
Jerry, any chance you know of a video source for the Sgt Eaton halftime reunion? I’d love to see it.
Sincere thanks for all you do, keeping the Nation informed coast-to-coast and worldwide.
November 7th, 2011 at 6:23 pm
Did agree with Hue when it comes to reasons for loss…
Hue said loss came down to 3 factors
1. turnovers
2. penalties
3. not stopping the run
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This is what I think really happened.
Hue was so confident that the Raiders would win that he sat DHB, Boss, and McClain so they would be healthy and rested for the Chargers game.
It bit him in the azz and so he came up with this “sets” BS to avoid looking stupid.
Would have worked if defense did not break down in the 2nd half.
November 7th, 2011 at 6:26 pm
LOL..
The worst thing that can happen to the broncos is to win games… their not going anywhere and they know it… that’s why elway is shadowing Andrew lucks every move… he doesn’t want tebow..lol
November 7th, 2011 at 6:28 pm
Sinbin. .. that was one emotional halftime show man.. extremely touching.. God bless them.. best part of the day…
November 7th, 2011 at 6:28 pm
la.raider Dave,post 11,Whats youre point?Post 1 thru 10,most had valid points,said well,imo
November 7th, 2011 at 6:29 pm
Hue Jackson is full of sh!t.
He had no answer for weak azz college offense.
He has no answer and no plan for addressing penalties. Said as much in press conference.
Team scored 1 time in 2nd half while DHB and Boss sat on the sidelines.
unacceptable.
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Hue is Head Coach not D-Coordinator he doesn’t have time/experience to help install the defense he has to trust his UFL quality Al Davis era lapdog
It is Hue’s fault that we didn’t run it 20 times in the second half
November 7th, 2011 at 6:31 pm
What in the world goes on in the Raider locker room at half time?????????????????????????????????????
Bresh to defense unit:
Richard, don’t grab facemasks anymore becuz Hue gets mad at me. OK? Please?
Guys, go out there and give it your all, guys, OK? I know you can do it. OK?
Seymour lets loose a big old dust croppin style fart and the place becomes unbearable and all the guys get up and leave the room. Uncontrollable laughter.
Bresh: Guys, hey guys, I’m not done. Hey guys, you can do it, OK? 2 more quarters guys, or a half if you like. 30 minutes more?
November 7th, 2011 at 6:32 pm
man, shouldnt have benched my GB DEF
November 7th, 2011 at 6:32 pm
division / prediction / record
afc west / 4-2 / 1-2
afc east / 2-2 / 1-2
nfc north/ 2-2 / 0-0
cle & hou/ 1-1 / 2-0
November 7th, 2011 at 6:33 pm
MakeItRain Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 6:29 pm
Hue Jackson is full of sh!t.
He had no answer for weak azz college offense.
He has no answer and no plan for addressing penalties. Said as much in press conference.
Team scored 1 time in 2nd half while DHB and Boss sat on the sidelines.
unacceptable.
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Hue is Head Coach not D-Coordinator he doesn’t have time/experience to help install the defense he has to trust his UFL quality Al Davis era lapdog
It is Hue’s fault that we didn’t run it 20 times in the second half
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I agree Hue is not the D coordinator. But Hue sure as hell can put his foot up Breshs’ ass.
November 7th, 2011 at 6:34 pm
L.A. Raider Dave Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 6:11 pm
Piss off all you haters. You’ll be kissing his ass when we get in the playoffs. Fair-weather fan morons!
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Dave,
I’m not a “fair-weather fan”. I’ve stuck with this team through it all (beginning in 1965), even the move to LA.
If you want to disagree with me that Hue got outcoached on Sunday and has allowed himself to get distracted from the task at hand, go right ahead. But don’t assume that I’m only along for the ride if we’re winning.
November 7th, 2011 at 6:36 pm
It is time for Hue and Chuck to take their game up a level. Com’on Hue and Chuck. Time to schit or get off the pot.
November 7th, 2011 at 6:36 pm
Hue has to grow from this. Al kept his ego reined in. Focus on winning and we will be fine. The most important thing hue needs to remember is the result is all that counts not how we get there.. The nation will bow down and proclaim him a genius if we win a title. Does not matter how it happens it just needs to happen.
November 7th, 2011 at 6:41 pm
If the lowly donkeys can put 38 on us, what do you think the dolts will do if they can put 38 on the super bowl champs? Just sayin…not looking good.
November 7th, 2011 at 6:43 pm
Bresnahan called it “disturbing” and promised to get it fixed. He said he wants off the roller coaster.
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Yikes. Disturbing is putting it mildly. How about “nightmarish” or “horrofic” or “WTF is happening, we’re spinning outta control, we’re goin down, mail it in”. It looked like mitiny out there in the second half. Insubordination. Mutiny at the O.
Roller coaster, ROLLER COASTER? More like a fcking joke.
November 7th, 2011 at 6:44 pm
We need to focus the beating we put on the dolts jump started us last year
November 7th, 2011 at 6:44 pm
by the way wasn’t Brez Al puppet…Drop the ax Hue!
November 7th, 2011 at 6:45 pm
DHB and Boss weren’t in the game plan cause they couldn’t catch up to the no huddle sets. Note to Hue: Build your game plan around playmakers. Not on a chalk board.
November 7th, 2011 at 6:46 pm
Tough game…I’m not gonna be super negative here but the players have to man up. Hue made mistakes? Of course…but the players are on the field and have to make schit happen…scheme or no scheme.
Palmer has gotta stop with the INT stuff. I told yall he has always thrown INTs since his USC days. This wasnt new info. He made some very nice throws and will need to get timing down with his guys. INTs are always demoralizing
Yes we need DMAC for offense to be on full go but the run game did decent enuff yesterday….just wished Taiwan was used more.
I dont grasp the idea of game planning all week without TEs or DHB being used. Head scratcher there. I kept looking at the formations during the game and the TE was hardly ever used. Many 3 wr and 4 wr sets….and I just dont feel we are at that point yet
Hue is drunk with power and needs to humble himself. We all in life,as men, have to humbe ourselves. I been wrong about DHB and also KC losing to Miami. Irs alright Hue man up for real and not just say it in a presser post game. Live it. Show that you know its your fault. Football is still a SIMPLE GAME AFTER ALL THE RAZZLE DAZZLE bs AND EXOTIC SCHEMES…..trust your players more and we can still win this thing
Karma for the Derek Hagan got us for sure yesterday….hue learn from it and get a win in SD
Must move on quickly and win….dont hang our heads
November 7th, 2011 at 6:46 pm
Brez is lost without Al!
November 7th, 2011 at 6:47 pm
Hue, put the game in the hands of your playmakers.
No more cutesy plays.
Let the playmakers get it done.
November 7th, 2011 at 6:49 pm
L.A. Raider Dave Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 6:11 pm
Piss off all you haters. You’ll be kissing his ass when we get in the playoffs. Fair-weather fan morons!
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You’re a sheep. Lefty is a sheep. Preist is a sheep. Team can run you over with the team bus, and you’ll compliment the tire tread pattern down your back. Read up, moron. Everyone is questioning Hue’s priorities. His penchant for the camera. His stupid decisions that he admits is stupid, and admits he will do the same thing again. Your name will disappear the exact day the Raiders playoff chances disappear. That is my guarantee.
November 7th, 2011 at 6:50 pm
Hue got outcoached for sure…..just facts….John Fox is a vet coach and has been in playoff games and a SB….he and his staff had a better plan than us
November 7th, 2011 at 6:52 pm
Its rough but we shall get through and we will win…..stay believing guys….adversity we been facing will make us tough if we get in the playoffs…I’m upset but I wont give in….fk giving in
November 7th, 2011 at 6:52 pm
Yes we Raiders will b back , don’t give up on this yet . We’re tied for this and and we have to call this ishh 0-0 an who ever have the Better record in the remaining 8 games will win this division … Good thing is that in the last two games we hit rock bottom and there’s no where to go but up … So cheers people we will b alright …
November 7th, 2011 at 6:53 pm
Interestin how for two weeks they ran plays, but on game day, Bey and Boss r all of a sudden out of the game plan? Both had no idea y they wer out, so obviously hue changed things on game day, or day before.
November 7th, 2011 at 6:54 pm
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November 7th, 2011 at 6:58 pm
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Niners still blow ass. No amount of winning can cure that.
November 7th, 2011 at 6:59 pm
CRACKBERRY=PRIEST
November 7th, 2011 at 7:01 pm
QUESTION: How will Marc Davis be able to pay the inheritance/estate tax? Both fed and state? Dolphins and Rams had to be sold because the next of kin could not afford the tax, after the owner died. I believe that tax is retroactive to the date the owner died, which means Marc Davis won’t be filing the short form next April.
November 7th, 2011 at 7:01 pm
“Cranberry ”
Your like the “Butters” of this blog!
November 7th, 2011 at 7:02 pm
Mcf20 .. any idea what the line is.. Raiders vs SD. .. I hope dmac plays… we need that dude badly. .
November 7th, 2011 at 7:03 pm
I dont think Hue was outcoached. Chuck B maybe, but not Hue. Hue knew what they were trying to accomplish on defense insofar as the game plan but it falls on Chuck B to call the defense and the players to execute.
November 7th, 2011 at 7:04 pm
Cranberry Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 6:54 pm
http://www.FreePriesttjNow.Org
Please petition Tj back. His positive outlook after a Raider meltdown is most sorely needed. Please sign the petition.
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as it appears, he backed Hue, and tol everyone to stfu. now that hue looks like a jerk, tj finds it easier to leave than to accept he was wrong. then he’ll come back, jus like wen russell wz let go. disappeared, then came back.
tj is old.
maybe he forgot the name of the website
November 7th, 2011 at 7:05 pm
Normally we would have heard all the blame put on al davis. .. accept for Sullivan44… I’m glad that mindless criticism is over!!
November 7th, 2011 at 7:06 pm
RaiderGator. I don’t sell out my coach after a couple of losses. Especially when we are tied for first. I”m also willing to except he is a rookie coach and is learning week by week. But I have no reason to trash him like a lot of these other fools.
November 7th, 2011 at 7:06 pm
fck this sucks!
November 7th, 2011 at 7:08 pm
48. Carol davis. .. al Davis’s widow still owns the team… when she passes away then mark will have these problems. .. I think mark might want to sell the team… he’s not into football like his dad..
November 7th, 2011 at 7:08 pm
“QUESTION: How will Marc Davis be able to pay the inheritance/estate tax? Both fed and state? Dolphins and Rams had to be sold because the next of kin could not afford the tax, after the owner died. I believe that tax is retroactive to the date the owner died, which means Marc Davis won’t be filing the short form next April.”
Answer:
Yes it will be difficult at one point for Mark and that will be when his mom passes. I am speculating on this next part…Al could have had a living trust with his wife and or Mark as executor and heavily funded by life insurance in order to pass the family business on at a lower tax rate. Sure life insurance would have been super expensive for AD but worth it to save the family business from sale or IRS levy…One day when Mark is the sole owner he will have a bigger tax burden than what they just went through and I would hope that he is preparing for that.
Florio (writer for PFT) was a lawyer and he did a story on how well the Raiders were passed on to Mark and Carol because of careful estate planning.
November 7th, 2011 at 7:13 pm
20.wasbanned Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 6:23 pm
Did agree with Hue when it comes to reasons for loss…
Hue said loss came down to 3 factors
1. turnovers
2. penalties
3. not stopping the run
….
This is what I think really happened.
Hue was so confident that the Raiders would win that he sat DHB, Boss, and McClain so they would be healthy and rested for the Chargers game.
It bit him in the azz and so he came up with this “sets” BS to avoid looking stupid.
Would have worked if defense did not break down in the 2nd half.
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It comes down to the Defence didn’t even show up in the second half. Pizzed!
November 7th, 2011 at 7:15 pm
SB666…
I’m not sure mark davis wants the team.. I suspect he will sell it if he receives a good offer…. if the chargers back away from moving to l.a. I would expect l.a. to make move for the Raiders. . AEG wants to purchase an NFL team… mark just might be willing to sell..
November 7th, 2011 at 7:17 pm
Sup method ..
November 7th, 2011 at 7:20 pm
LA Raider Dave is right,
Get used to it. This is Hue’s show with Carson Palmer for at least the next year and a half. It’s not Hue’s fault that Richard Seymour has been nothing more than a glorified thug as a Raider!
November 7th, 2011 at 7:20 pm
The Raiders are in trouble. Hue is in over his head
November 7th, 2011 at 7:20 pm
Mcf20. . You win any parlays bro.. difficult week man.. I didn’t even come close..LOL.. oh well.. maybe next week..
November 7th, 2011 at 7:20 pm
Ghost, there’s no lines yet for SD game Yet but I think since everyone will b putting there Money on SD the line will be around -7 dischargers
November 7th, 2011 at 7:22 pm
Nah ghost I haven’t won shi!t since last Monday , hopefully this weekend will be nice I see good matchups next week …
November 7th, 2011 at 7:23 pm
Mcf20. . If we get dmac back… ill put some on the Raiders. .. but this team is missing dmac badly…
November 7th, 2011 at 7:23 pm
Chargers 38 Raiders 17
November 7th, 2011 at 7:26 pm
College picks look good too broo
November 7th, 2011 at 7:27 pm
The Raiders need more then just Dmac.. Boy I wish we had Campbell right now love or hate him he won games for us
November 7th, 2011 at 7:28 pm
59.ghostraiders Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 7:15 pm
SB666…
I’m not sure mark davis wants the team.. I suspect he will sell it if he receives a good offer…. if the chargers back away from moving to l.a. I would expect l.a. to make move for the Raiders. . AEG wants to purchase an NFL team… mark just might be willing to sell..
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SNB, LA does not support it’s Football Teams. Reason Rams left, reason AD left. Too many distractions, wacky fan base, just not into it. Why would anyone want to covet LA? It’s just not happening!!!!!
November 7th, 2011 at 7:28 pm
31-28 oaktown
November 7th, 2011 at 7:29 pm
Raiders2daheart… is that you MR?? Loser!!
November 7th, 2011 at 7:31 pm
Raider2DaHeart Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 7:23 pm
Chargers 38 Raiders 17
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I see where you coming from but the Raiders been playing better on road than at home , I think we won’t see any turnover next game , remember we win turnover battles we’re 4-0 when we don’t we’re 0-4 and it may come down to just that again … And another factor in that game is chargers will b playing their 3rd game in 11 days so we run the damn ball with fresh DMAC or bush .. They won’t stop us because of the too many game in so many few days factor ..
November 7th, 2011 at 7:32 pm
The Lakers.. dodgers ( before mccourt).. angels.. USC. .Don’t
Seem to have a problem… the thing about l.a. is.. it supports you.. but you have to win.. .. its a fact..
November 7th, 2011 at 7:34 pm
Hue left out ball control in second half, got pass dizzy, and NO clock control. This is unacceptable!
November 7th, 2011 at 7:34 pm
Sulli was all over the board when we played bad but nowhere to be seen when we doing some gOod things … Fvckin f@g
November 7th, 2011 at 7:36 pm
New post..
November 7th, 2011 at 7:37 pm
74.ghostraiders Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 7:32 pm
The Lakers.. dodgers ( before mccourt).. angels.. USC. .Don’t
Seem to have a problem… the thing about l.a. is.. it supports you.. but you have to win.. .. its a fact..
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We won a SB there, then the stands were empty. I’ll stand my case, shallow fan base, Hollyugly followers, and East LA won’t carry any team, period!
November 7th, 2011 at 7:38 pm
More than likely. .the chargers will move to l.a. .. but they will learn quickly…..win or else…. this is l.a. … I’m surprised the clippers still in town… the Raiders have excellent fans… losing three of four games at home and selling out all four games… but honestly. . Who should put up with crap like that… I would bet my last dollar that the raiders will not sell out another home game this season if They lose in SD. .
November 7th, 2011 at 7:44 pm
I wont go to another game this year. Hue needs to get this team back to winning
November 7th, 2011 at 7:59 pm
First thing we do is crack Richard (the worthless Seymore) across the face with an ax handle, fire him, and run him out of town. He is worthless except for inflicting 15 yd personal foul penalties. There is a reason why NE got rid of him: because a simple first round draft pick was worth more. Seymore had his time, now it’s over
Next thing is fire Jackass Jackson, the snake oil salesman/preacher extrodinaire, hired by a demented old piece of crap who should should have been run out of the league in 1983 after the Raiders won their final Super Bowl, when AL figured out it was much easier winning lawsuits using clever attorneys.
Next action would be to hire a GM and reknown coach, rescind over-the-hill Carson Palmer and TJ, and install Terrel Pryor as QB, now that our season is blown. We will go no better than 6 and 10. Talk of the Raiders going to the playoffs is not only assinine, but childish.
November 7th, 2011 at 8:00 pm
Best thing is to trade DMC. Granted, he is an excellent, but not great, running back, but injury prone thus far in his career. Remember, one hallmark of a great player in professional sports is not only performance but durability. Also recall that DMC has done little against top tier teams. He ran 150 yds the first time Raiders played the Broncos and 171 against the Jets. Aginst Buffalo he ran 75 yds, Houston 51, 75 yds against the Pats and 4 yds against KC (Yawn….)
If Mark Davis has the gonads to fire the loud mouth blowhard Jackass Jackson, hire an reknown GM and coach, DMC must go while he still has trade value. That would be a plus for the Raiders. Imagine the horrible straits the 49s operated under with another blowhard bully for several years, and look at them now.
November 7th, 2011 at 8:23 pm
The Raiders in SoCal, in a state of the art stadium, would rock like no other team in the world, in any sport. This is not 1990. The Raider Nation is all over the state and beyond, with the type of marketing and promotion that an organization like AEG can move, the Raiders would become the Lakers of the NFL. Of course, not the character that was bred in Oaktown, or that existed in LA in the 80s and 90s.
About Bresnahan’s promotion from March 8:
(From AP)
ALAMEDA, Calif. — The Oakland Raiders promoted assistant Chuck Bresnahan to defensive coordinator Monday, just weeks after bringing him back for a second stint with the organization.
Oakland hired Bresnahan last month as a defensive assistant, but did not immediately specify his duties. Coach Hue Jackson said he had talked to some people outside the organization about the job, but stuck with a coach he had worked with before in Cincinnati.
“The fact that I’ve had the chance to be in defensive meetings with Chuck and watch him lead the defensive staff made it an easy decision to name him our defensive coordinator,” Jackson said in a statement. “I am impressed with his passion, attention to detail and energy. This staff gives us the opportunity to have one of the top defenses in the NFL.”
You might still think that Bresnahan was Mr. Davis’ lapdog, but he was breathing fire with HueJax in Cincy as well. Of course, now we know that Bresnahan was not Mr. Davis nor HueJax first choice, it was Dennis Thurman, but Rex Ryan wouldn’t allow him to interview with Mr. Davis. HueJax also worked with Thurman at SC and in BMore. Bresnahan was promoted from assistant to DC as a stop gap measure in case Thurman was not available. Thurman has never been a DC, he coaches the defensive backs with the Jets.
I don’t know where HueJax got the idea that Bresnahan brings “passion and attention to detail” to the defense, so far neither has been true, he has miserably underachieved. Bresnahan and HueJax have wasted a lot of good talent in the defense, and have failed to be “one of the top defenses in the NFL.”
I should have paid more attention to what HueJax was selling back in March, at least I would have known not to pay much attention to all the BS he says now.
November 7th, 2011 at 8:36 pm
Simply put: If the defense does their jobs and plays smart we win the Denver game..not only that, If the Defense does their jobs, we win the REST of our games.
We have the offense to compete with anyone, the problem is that we need the ball back every now and then to get into a rythm..You take chances on offense, and you play smart on defense…you cover your f’n man till the whistle, and when a guy is obviously down or out of bounds you don’t hit him or yank his facemask..
You keep contain if it is your job, there is no reason to overpursue from the backside when the guy is running into the heart of the defense, especially when, if you are wrong, its Tebow time around the edge..
If we miss the playoffs this year, which we probably will, it will be because of the defense and all the dumba$$es that play on that side of the ball.
It will not be because of Carson Palmer or anyone on the offense. If I were in the Locker Room I would be telling those idiots to get thier Sh#t together because they are flushing this season down the toilet with their IQ points…And then I would whoop somebodies ass If they stepped up..
But that is just me/.
November 7th, 2011 at 8:40 pm
This is what I think really happened.
Hue was so confident that the Raiders would win that he sat DHB, Boss, and McClain so they would be healthy and rested for the Chargers game.
It bit him in the azz and so he came up with this “sets” BS to avoid looking stupid.
Would have worked if defense did not break down in the 2nd half.
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Bingo!
November 7th, 2011 at 9:56 pm
I think Hue is big on lying to media to hide team issues, strategies, tactics. What he sorely misses by doing is losing fam base who won’t trust a word coming out of his mouth anymore. It was obvious he held out DHB and Boss to make SD think they won’t be used in their game. Who could forget his not naming Dumass Boller as his starter against KC?
Yeah misdirection is a job of HC but not at expense of screwing up his relationship w media and fans who’ll turn on him like a dime. But that’s Hue’s ammo. He is a street smart kind of guy and not an experienced Xs and Os guy who’ll make adjustments during game to out coach his opponents. He tries to fool them instead. That he thinks is his strategy along w being king of BS. He was a security guard at LAX 10 years or so ago. How do you think he rose to where he is now? By doing exactly what I just said. But getting a HC job from a man like AD is different than winning in NFL. That he’s finding out fast.
November 7th, 2011 at 10:05 pm
Another thing. Cutting hard working popular player like Hagan to bring HIS guy didn’t sit well with the locker room. Assume for a moment the Saturday night meeting did happen. Why would it happen a day before playing the worst team in your division at home? It must have been due to cutting Hagan for no reason. The difference between Hagan and TJ is not huge, one is young and hungry and the other is experienced. Hue made a mistake by signing TJ in first place and then cutting Hagan instead of FB Mensa. Had he cut Mensa locker room would not have been so pissed that an emergency meeting had to be called for to calm them down. Again I think Hue is losing certain players in the locker room, the Same ones he threatened to cut if they don’t “perform!”
November 8th, 2011 at 5:28 am
I see that there is a Raiders live chat here on Tuesday at noon. In past chats, Steve Corkran has written some things about Hue not being 100% honest with some players.
We have to get Corkran to fully disclose what he is talking about as the locker room chemistry issue may be related to this.
There was also no sign of McFadden at the walkthrough yesterday, so Darren may still be injured. Will he go against SD?
November 8th, 2011 at 5:52 am
Will someone please tell Jerry MacDonald that the Raiders aren’t playing the Seahawks. That sports headline just is irritating after 24 hours of it. Don’t you guys have an editor?Everything is automated,”mailed in”?
November 8th, 2011 at 7:16 am
I think the Raiders really are setting the stage for 2012. They are putting together a fairly explosive offense. Jacoby Ford (deep threat, with a knack for fighting for the ball) Marcel Reece (pass catching back), and if CP3 can get Boss involved with McFadden as the homerun hitter, this is going to be the team to beat. I might also add Taiwan Jones as a Fred Jackson-Darren Sproles type pass catching back.
Palmer is essentially in pre-season form, and he has to get familiar quickly and get some wins for confidence. Michael Bush is essentially auditioning for teams as a free agent, so he has every reason to excel and become a top FA in 2012.
The real reason for the struggles, was the lack of a franchise QB, which forced them to trade top picks. The second reason, lack of a defensive force, which forced the deal for Richard Seymour. They have to get a GM in ASAP with the patience, connections and a blueprint to surround the stars with the necessary role players to set up wins in November and when injuries mount
November 8th, 2011 at 7:57 am
First off, Michael Huff should be wearing the boot on his head. This guy gets worse every year. Why is this guy still here??? Next, Hubris Ima Stilurwalet said he may not get the penalty problem fixed until week 16. Does he know that the season will be nearly over by then?? Maybe a little too much of the Irish coffee? Does Mr. Hubris understand that a loss to San Diego pretty much ends the season. After watching the Bears last night, Miami Sunday and Detroit last week I just don’t see them winning 2 out of 3. Hubris I believe thinks so highly of himself that he feels invincible. I guess with Al gone, no GM & only idiot Mark to answer to I can see why. Someone take Hubris’ Irish coffee away and give him a Colt45 with a whino sleeve instead. WAKE THE FU*K UP HUBRIS BEFORE ITS TOO LATE.
November 8th, 2011 at 8:02 am
HUBRIS……. WE ARE NOT IN CINCINNATI!!!!! We can still win the west if you can just pull your head out of your azz. Al is looking down and saying “Oh Hubris what have I done? The greatness of the Raiders can only be in it’s future if you can lay off the dam* Irish coffee. How could you have given up 2 #1’s for a redhead QB? We tried that already.”
November 8th, 2011 at 8:07 am
The Raiders are in trouble.
November 8th, 2011 at 8:14 am
Same old Raiders
November 8th, 2011 at 9:48 am
MakeItRain Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 6:29 pm
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Hue is Head Coach not D-Coordinator he doesn’t have time/experience to help install the defense he has to trust his UFL quality Al Davis era lapdog
It is Hue’s fault that we didn’t run it 20 times in the second half
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Word. Take out the KC game (no real QB) and we’re averaging more than 26 points per game (23/game overall). The losses are on Bresnahan, with a little “credit” to the lack of talent on that side of the ball. Hue’s not a D-coordinator. Bottom line, we do not have a defense that can win a playoff game.
All the griping about packages and not seeing DHB and Boss? A couple of weeks ago this blog was full of outraged demands that the ball be forced to Denarius and Jacoby…
What I will put on Hue is the penalties. That nonsense needs to stop.
Yes, be patient. It’s going to take a while. We need to address the defense and our new QB and very young (but very talented) receivers need to gel.
Of course Hue talks about winning now. What else is he going to say?
November 8th, 2011 at 10:48 am
The Raiders need new defensive schemes, more ball-control offense, less penalties, less turnovers. A lot of these things are coaching issues.
November 8th, 2011 at 10:51 am
This season started with a lot of promise, and now look at where we are. All these so called personnel upgrades (Palmer, Curry, TJ Huzmanzada) what have they gotten us. One thing you can say about Jason Cambell was he didn’t turn the ball over. I’m starting to think that Jason Cambell is the QB for this team. I can’t say just how disappointed in coach Hue Jackson I am. Yes, it seems he was under Al’s thumb, but since Mr. Davis died, the Raiders have become his soapbox. How could TJ Huzmanzada be on the field, know all the plays, shifts, routes in 3 days?
All the promise that the Raiders showed me in the first 4 games, is gone. I would be SHOCKED if they won on Thursday night. Now think about it from this perspective guys, what if Mr Davis was still alive, McFadden was healthy, and Jason was the QB, DHB, Ford, Chillens, and Murphy were the receivers, how would we feel about Thursday night? The point I’m making is the changes Hue has made have hurt this team. And not only for this year, but for the next 2 years.
6-10 here we come, after the season Hue Jackson says “We’re getting better, we’re going to build a bully, and we’re going to fix the penalties”. I only hope he says that when they announce him as head coach of the St.Louis Rams.
November 8th, 2011 at 2:02 pm
UCLA Raider Says:
. Again I think Hue is losing certain players in the locker room, the Same ones he threatened to cut if they don’t “perform!”
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That was a BS rumor started by some players agent who didnt feel his client was getting playing time. Corkran talked to a player who looked like bewildered regarding that statement. Hagan wasnt exactly Chaz Schillens , you know. Hagan just got there, was demoted, then played a little then was cut to make room for TJ,yeah Hue Jax was a security guard at LAX, but he has good rapport with his players. Now, if they go out and sign Albert Haynesworth THEN you got reason for him being out of control…. Leigh Bodden on the other hand, might be a realistic option.
November 8th, 2011 at 4:19 pm
operating on a wing and prayer:
THE RAIDER PREDICTION BOARD
Dedicated to the legacy of Al Davis
Protected by the rally squirrel and Coliseum rodents
First: Ghostraider (exact score)
Second: Sullivan44
Third: Pretty Rick
Fourth: Sullivan44
Fifth: Fingers
Sixth: Zymurge Raiders 23, Browns 17
Honorable Mention: LA for PAIN
Seventh: Noone…at all.
Eighth: TBD.
antispy3 Raiders 27 Dischargers 24
Jesus Super Chokers 35 – Oakland 17 …
saladfingerz Raiders 9 49ers 17
November 8th, 2011 at 4:35 pm
La Milicia Negra
operating on a wing and prayer:
THE RAIDER PREDICTION BOARD
Dedicated to the legacy of Al Davis
Protected by the rally squirrel and Coliseum rodents
First: Ghostraider (exact score)
Second: Sullivan44
Third: Pretty Rick
Fourth: Sullivan44
Fifth: Fingers
Sixth: Zymurge Raiders 23, Browns 17
Honorable Mention: LA for PAIN
Seventh: Noone…at all.
Eighth: La Milicia Negra
antispy3 Raiders 27 Dischargers 24
Jesus Super Chokers 35 – Oakland 17 …
Raider2DaHeart Chargers 38 Raiders 17
saladfingerz Raiders 9 49ers 17
November 8th, 2011 at 4:50 pm
R8RNAZ Says:
November 7th, 2011 at 7:28 pm
31-28 oaktown
operating on a wing and prayer:
THE RAIDER PREDICTION BOARD
Dedicated to the legacy of Al Davis
Protected by the rally squirrel and Coliseum rodents
First: Ghostraider (exact score)
Second: Sullivan44
Third: Pretty Rick
Fourth: Sullivan44
Fifth: Fingers
Sixth: Zymurge Raiders 23, Browns 17
Honorable Mention: LA for PAIN
Seventh: Noone…at all.
Eighth: La Milicia Negra
antispy3 Raiders 27 Dischargers 24
Jesus Super Chokers 35 – Oakland 17 …
R8RNAZ 31-28 oaktown
Raider2DaHeart Chargers 38 Raiders 17
saladfingerz Raiders 9 49ers 17
November 8th, 2011 at 6:20 pm
ENOUGH OF THE “if this”, “if that”.
Just Win.
November 10th, 2011 at 6:48 am
KRUNKPHY – “Al Davis” (Prod. by KRUNKPHY) WOW!!!! RAIDER NATION!!! BEST TRACK EVER!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60-x4MFhiW0
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