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Raiders could face line juggling

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Tuesday, November 8th, 2011 at 3:37 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Right tackle Khalif Barnes (shoulder) and center Samson Satele (knee) were riding exercise bikes as the Raiders went through warmups and it remains to be seen if they’ll be ready to play Thursday night in San Diego.

Neither man went through the team walkthrough Monday.

If Barnes and Satele were unable to play, the offensive line would probably be Stephon Heyer at right tackle, Cooper Carlisle at right guard, Stefen Wisniewski at center, Joe Barksdale at left guard and Jared Veldheer at right tackle. Bruce Campbell, who has been playing both right guard and tackle of late, could be active after being inactive for the past three games.

Running back Darren McFadden was not present, and likely will be declared out Wednensday on the team’s injury report. Middle linebacker Rolando McClain was present, although it’s not known if he’ll get in any practice time. Also not practicing was free safety and nickel back Michael Huff, who remains in a walking boot to protect an injured ankle. Cornerback DeMarcus Van Dyke (hamstring) didn’t appear to be practicing, although Chimdi Chekwa (hamstring) was on the field.

Coach Hue Jackson and players are available following practice.

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363 Responses to “Raiders could face line juggling”

  1. Silverandblack666 Says:

    #1

  2. lefty12 Says:

    Go Raiders

  3. J Hill Says:

    Barksdale was a nightmare at LG!

  4. aig-raiders Says:

    DeuceDeuce Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 3:29 pm
    Phillip Rivers just said Routt compares favorably to Asomugha
    —————
    Nnamdi never gave up 4 consecutive TD’s in four games.

  5. J Hill Says:

    I’d go with Veldheer-Heyer-Wiz-Carlisle-Barksdale

  6. aig-raiders Says:

    anyone remember Heavy D? Dude just died at 44.

  7. DeuceDeuce Says:

    aig-raiders Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 3:39 pm
    DeuceDeuce Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 3:29 pm
    Phillip Rivers just said Routt compares favorably to Asomugha
    —————
    Nnamdi never gave up 4 consecutive TD’s in four games.

    —-

    I said Rivers said it. Not me.

  8. DeuceDeuce Says:

    False Start Heyer playing? Great.

  9. Master Beeecham Says:

    Krappy, too funny that you actually put effort into posting all those worthless links!

    Guess the Broker’s Tour got canceled again.

    Albert Puss, excited your magnificent “return” to the blog netted your posts exactly ZERO responses?

    Man, the blog punching bags are out in force today

    MAD TRIBUTE TO HEAVY D AND THE BIG BOI SQUADRON

  10. DeuceDeuce Says:

    Looks more and more like were screwed.

  11. J Hill Says:

    Nnamdi’s been pretty avg this year. Wasn’t too good last night, so I’d say the Routt comparisons are about on par.

    THIS year, not historically.

  12. DeuceDeuce Says:

    J Hill Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 3:41 pm
    Nnamdi’s been pretty avg this year. Wasn’t too good last night, so I’d say the Routt comparisons are about on par.

    THIS year, not historically.

    —-

    Nnamdi was made for our D. He’ll struggle anywhere else.

  13. Orthodoxdj Says:

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/08/a-note-of-optimism-about-carson-palmer/

  14. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Carlisle the rock of consistancy, as usual.

  15. TerrapinRaider Says:

    Man, we are so damn injured even coming off a bye.

    Losing these division games still stings (really losing vs Denver the way they did still stings). I wish someone knocks Teabow the f out. He has to be the worst starting QB in the league (and we let him do that sht)

  16. John Tweedy Says:

    John Tweedy Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 11:03 am
    John Tweedy Says:
    November 7th, 2011 at 4:27 pm
    John Tweedy Says:
    November 6th, 2011 at 3:55 pm
    John Tweedy Says:
    November 6th, 2011 at 3:19 pm
    Sullivan44 Says:
    November 6th, 2011 at 3:07 pm
    John Tweedy Says:
    November 6th, 2011 at 2:58 pm

    John Tweedy Says:
    November 6th, 2011 at 2:25 pm
    November 4th, 2011 at 10:58 am
    Sullivan44 Says:
    November 4th, 2011 at 10:37 am
    It’s an expression, LA to the Bay. I think Al and my dearly departed grandmother are both looking at 6 feet of dirt.

    .
    So your Grandmother is Burning in He!l?

    Since that is where you fell Davis should be.

    .
    Sully, would you P!Ss in your Grandmothers Gums if they were in fire?

    .
    What’s the matter Sully??
    Hey how long you gonna keep cashing her SSI checks? Did you wack the ol battle Ax yourself, or did something else do us the favor?

    .
    Speaking of Necrophilia Sully, is it true dead chicks always Swallow?

    .
    How hard was it to pull off the As$ To Mouth on rotting sack of Mongrel spuge?

    .
    What’s the matter Sully? Granny not puttin out? Dont worry, she is just giving you the cold Shoulder.

    .
    Sully: wow grandma your nice and tight tonight.

    Grandma Sully: Get that little Hairy Pecker out of my A $ $!

    .
    How does Grandama Sully know when she is on the Rag?
    When Sully’s C0c k tastes like Blood.
    =============
    You need a chill pill, TweedyBird. You’re jealous because my cousin is hotter than your cousin.

    .
    Sullivan44 Says:
    November 6th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
    Remember the bet, if the Raiders win, I will not post here for a month, under any of my handles. If the Raiders lose, all those who took me up on my bet have to leave for a month.

    .
    Truth is you are taking Grandma Sully’s Insurance money and taking a road trip to AZ.

    .
    Sully takes his Grandma to the Doctor…

    The Doc says, “Well, it’s either Alzheimers or AIDS.”

    “What do you mean?” The guy says, “You can’t tell the difference?”

    “Yeah, the two look a lot alike in the early stages… Tell you what.. Drive her way out into the country, kick her out of the car, and if she finds her way back, STOP Screwing her.”

    .
    Sully, is it true because of “visitor” request, Al had all of Granny Sully’s Teeth removed? I tell ya, never seen a old broad work an Out House better than her.

    .
    Granny Sully has a Tramp Stamp that reads ” Cover Your Stump Before You Hump ”

    .
    What’s the difference between Sully Eating his Grandma’s PU ZZ Y and him posting on this blog?
    When he is eating his Granny’s Snatch at least he can see the A SS hole in front of him.

    .
    Ever wonder why GrannySullyCun T breath smells like Sh !T?

  17. TerrapinRaider Says:

    Not having DMC in the offense really slows it down. Palmer will be better than Campbell in this offense. Throws Campbell would never attempt Palmer made Sunday – WOW balls. Denver played good defense.

    Now that defense was a travesty 2H. Thats the 2nd time that sht’s happened this season. Something is seriously wrong on that side of the ball and I think it starts with Chuck B.

  18. aig-raiders Says:

    DeuceDeuce Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 3:39 pm
    aig-raiders Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 3:39 pm
    DeuceDeuce Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 3:29 pm
    Phillip Rivers just said Routt compares favorably to Asomugha
    —————
    Nnamdi never gave up 4 consecutive TD’s in four games.

    —-

    I said Rivers said it. Not me.
    ————–
    Sorry DD, I was just responding to Philip’s comments and not you. Being my smart a$$ self as always.

  19. LA to TheBay Says:

    We got an early playoff game coming up. O Line, however it’s gotta be arranged, step up — we gonna need you.

  20. RaiderLen Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 3:43 pm
    Carlisle the rock of consistancy, as usual.
    —————————-
    The day Carlisle is replaced will be the day I know that Hue is serious about building a bully.

  21. LA to TheBay Says:

    Man, how did we lose to Denver?

    5-3 heading into this game would be so much different.

    Making sh;t matter early this year.

  22. PlunkforHOF Says:

    I am still sick to my stomach..and really pissed off

  23. Seymour Bush Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 3:29 pm

    Another NFL expert in awe of Palmer’s arm strength and accuracy.

    I think a few more weeks in our system people will finally start to see why Hue brought him here.
    =============================================

    Anyone who would criticize Palmer in ANY WAY after 1.5 games here is a dummass. Palmer did a great job, reading the defense, he was given the authority to check out of plays which he did repeatedly, always to the right call. He is BY FAR the best Q we have had here in decades. The picks were the result of him giving his guys opportunities to make plays. Our guys didn’t make the play, their guys did make the play. That, right there, is the difference between winning and losing.

  24. LA to TheBay Says:

    Let it go, Plunk.

    I promised myself somewhere in the 06 season I wouldn’t let this sh;t ruin the rest of my weekends, the Monday afters, etc.

    If we win — great. We’re due.

    If we don’t, I’ll be upset but I won’t start beating my loved ones over it you know?

  25. Seymour Bush Says:

    The Dischargers defense is really reeling this year. their run defense is average at best, and we have a better pass defense statistically then they do. They have some hurt guys back there, but Cason has been a bust of (almost) Jamarcus type bloated proportion. With Phillips out, there goes their pass rush. And I wonder if losing Ron Rivera hurt? Maybe they should have bagged on Norphus and kept Rivera.

  26. Just Fire Baby Says:

    The day Carlisle is replaced will be the day I know that Hue is serious about building a bully.

    *************************

    LOL

    Well played

  27. The Return of Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    LA To TheBay Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 3:51 pm
    Man, how did we lose to Denver?

    5-3 heading into this game would be so much different.

    Making sh;t matter early this year.
    ———
    How? Same old Raiders. Culture won’t change until we get a GM. I think Hue wants to be the next Al.

  28. LA to TheBay Says:

    Seymour, i agree for the most part, but that 2nd INT is on Palmer. Way too high and Moore was wide open.

  29. Seymour Bush Says:

    PlunkforHOF Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 3:51 pm

    I am still sick to my stomach..and really pissed off
    ================================

    If you WEREN’T, it would be a problem.

  30. olinesux Says:

    more and more players dont want to play for that fake hue….

  31. Just Fire Baby Says:

    2nd INT had to much mustard on it.

    Moore was open, but Moore is playing awfully small these days.

    Not going up and making plays like we saw earlier in the year.

  32. LA to TheBay Says:

    How? Same old Raiders. Culture won’t change until we get a GM. I think Hue wants to be the next Al.
    ——

    Fine by me if it’s Al from 1963-1983ish

  33. Seymour Bush Says:

    LA to TheBay Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 3:55 pm

    Seymour, i agree for the most part, but that 2nd INT is on Palmer. Way too high and Moore was wide open.
    ===========================================

    I agree, but what any Q will say is if I hit you in the hand(s), you should come down with it.

  34. LA to TheBay Says:

    Moore is gonna be real nice for this team. he made a couple of ‘holy sh;t’ catches in the game, one where he stretched out for a 1st down.

    But that INT wasn’t on him. He was WAY up in the air and could only manage a fingertip.

  35. LA to TheBay Says:

    Carson knew as soon as he let it go.

  36. LA to TheBay Says:

    Whole team gotta play well but especially the D.

    We need this next one in the worst way.

    I’m out, Nation.

    Be good.

  37. Master Beeecham Says:

    Brahs I’m having a Heavy D tribute jam here at the Ritz Pool.

    Just ordered a round of curly fries for all the homies and the PARTYDUDE 8000 is kicking our super dope hood margaritas. Tip one for Heavy Dizzle, my Wizzles.

    I’m working the DJ station and mixing up some unreleased tracks from my forthcoming album Wrecks N Effect for the babes to lezz out to on the dancefloor.

    This party is going till the break of dawn, or until I can find a MILF to give me a sweet rim job in the hot tub

    BUMPING THE D SHOT FIZZLE HIGH FIVING MO HOES WHUT

  38. The Return of Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Carson is going to be fine after he gets some more reps. I don’t know if this offense can make up for the defense’s ineptitude, though. Plus, Hue confounds me each week. Seems like his decisions have gotten crazier each week since Al died.

  39. The Return of Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Beeecham, f*ck off. We all know you run a crappy part boat and serve Dominoes pizza to your poor guests. At what age did you become a pathological liar?

  40. SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:

    Didn’t hit him on the hands as much as Moore happened to get a hand on it… it was gonna be a pick either way….

  41. elraidmanhattan Says:

    Love the Palmer trade, unfortunately he doesn’t play defense.
    Love our receivers, unfortunately they don’t play defense
    Jano has been great unfortunately he doesn’t play defense
    Lech
    Er has been great doesn’t play defense

  42. TerrapinRaider Says:

    3-4 of Palmer’s 6 picks have been throwing to Moore. Something gives.

  43. elraidmanhattan Says:

    Did I leave something out?

    Yes, who plays defense?

  44. TerrapinRaider Says:

    The DEs and LBs completing caved. Some of those runs were downright embarrassing.

  45. SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:

    Looks like we might get to see what Bruce Campbell can finally do in a seriously meaningful game…..

  46. elraidmanhattan Says:

    I am looking for some volunteers

  47. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    NFLN Seymour in a minute.

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 4:05 pm
    Was I fooled by hue jack? I thought he was a raider but he is obsessed with bungles rejects & sloppy seconds. How can a coach lean on a certain group of players a’s his leaders then suddenly mid season change direction & kick the to the curb? What a out their sacrifice that made us winners. What about the locker room they helped clean up & build? What about the coaches word, if he sected them then dumped them in the middle of the night for some cast off out of towers from a loser team, can he be trusted by the players?

    Looks like hu jack pulled a Tom cable, I’m disappointed

  48. The Return of Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 4:04 pm
    Didn’t hit him on the hands as much as Moore happened to get a hand on it… it was gonna be a pick either way….
    ————-
    Moore is not tall enough to catch that one. DHB would have at least knocked it to the ground. Too bad Hue was experimenting by benching our best WR.

  49. SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:

    The LB depth was an issue before the season and now it’s biting us in the a$$…sad to say, but we deserve the bad play there for not addressing it enough in the offseason

  50. beach Says:

    15.TerrapinRaider Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 3:45 pm
    Man, we are so damn injured even coming off a bye.

    Losing these division games still stings (really losing vs Denver the way they did still stings). I wish someone knocks Teabow the f out. He has to be the worst starting QB in the league (and we let him do that sht)

    ———————————————
    Trust me, you and I will be more sick if we don’t beat Rivers!

  51. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    Raiders could face line juggling”

    Misleading headline there, Jerry…

    Could leave one to believe that Chuck B., in a stroke of genius. Was preparing the D-line to juggle bowling pins, and machetes in an attempt to confuse Phillip…

  52. mcfadden20. Says:

    Let’s go D

  53. elraidmanhattan Says:

    Chuck d has to divert from the norm, mix up the coverages, stunts something a bit different don’t you think?

  54. beach Says:

    Any updates on the Seymour interview? I want to know what he says and if he looks sincere. I’m at work and can’t see it.

  55. mcfadden20. Says:

    Let’s go DEfense , let’s go defense let’s go

  56. raiderfankirk Says:

    Man blitz plz single middle

  57. mcfadden20. Says:

    Let’s go Defense kill Phillip pleaee

  58. Seymour Bush Says:

    For all you “geniuses” who think we should cut Satele, go watch the tape from when Satele goes out, til the end. Wisneiwski got his ass KICKED out there. Which meant Bush went nowhere, and Palmer was sacked 3 or 4 times in a quarter and a half.

  59. raiderfankirk Says:

    Seymour hasn’t come up yet. Said coming up left us hanging.

  60. Master Beeecham Says:

    Poor Albert Puss, makes his big return to the blog and there’s no one there to celebrate with him.

    Albert, hurry up and post some more of those totally hilarious party boat reviews you found on yelp.

    Everyone completely believes they’re mine. Seriously, folks will start to laugh by the 19th or 46th time you try.

    Guaranteed.

  61. zopi Says:

    I am convinced that Cork is a bias reporter. And you would think that after all those years as beat reporter he would at least break one major story about the Raiders. But now we know that no one talks to him, and no one knows and says nothing about last Saturday meeting, of course it’s a Raiders story reported by someone else. And he dismisses the story, by saying that it must have been started by a disgruntled player’s agent.
    Wow! As the Cork world turns, did a player actually told him that an agent started the rumor, or is this something that Cork figured out from his 17 years on the beat?

    I love his “report” on why DHB had minimal participation against the donkeys. Finally Cork has been vindicated as a talent evaluator by HueJax’s “demotion” of DHB to 6th in the WRs depth-chart. Now we know where HueJax is getting his ideas, he should hire Cork tomorrow.

  62. The Return of Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Beach Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 4:13 pm
    Any updates on the Seymour interview? I want to know what he says and if he looks sincere. I’m at work and can’t see it.
    ————
    From the interview: “Sometimes, coming off a bye, your head just isn’t in the right place. Guys spend too much time playing video games and in strip clubs. You got to be a professional. We make a lot of money and the fans deserve the best. We just got to do what we do and play like winners. Too much stupid garbage going on with this team. Both coaches and players better get their stuff together.”

  63. raiderfankirk Says:

    Master bater = looser = fantasy land. ” Yah Fired up the party vibrator 5000″.

  64. GoodOle00 Says:

    Raider Nation-Station
    NEW!~ 11-08-11: INJURIES LOOM LARGE AS RAIDERS HEAD TO SAN DIEGO
    DMC, Satele, Barnes, McClain, DVD, Huff all dinged…
    http://www.raidernationstation.com/raider_war_room

    =====

    Good gawd!

  65. The Return of Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    What happened to Brien? Did he finally get banned, or worse? The guy seemed to be losing his sanity. The Denver loss couldn’t have helped. I hope the guy is ok and didn’t do anything too crazy.

  66. olinesux Says:

    telling you guys the team is cracking because of hue….

  67. GoodOle00 Says:

    Add these injuries to their new faces and holy c-r-ap…

  68. The Big Banana Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 3:43 pm
    Silverandblack666 Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 3:29 pm

    Another NFL expert in awe of Palmer’s arm strength and accuracy.

    I think a few more weeks in our system people will finally start to see why Hue brought him here.
    =============================================

    Anyone who would criticize Palmer in ANY WAY after 1.5 games here is a dummass. Palmer did a great job, reading the defense, he was given the authority to check out of plays which he did repeatedly, always to the right call. He is BY FAR the best Q we have had here in decades. The picks were the result of him giving his guys opportunities to make plays. Our guys didn’t make the play, their guys did make the play. That, right there, is the difference between winning and losing.

    __________________________

    Obviously

  69. GoodOle00 Says:

    Sey Bush, Beech, Bigelow, whos this idiot think he’s kidding? Many computers, one IP address moron…

  70. Seymour Bush Says:

    GoodOle00 Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 4:23 pm

    Raider Nation-Station
    NEW!~ 11-08-11: INJURIES LOOM LARGE AS RAIDERS HEAD TO SAN DIEGO
    DMC, Satele, Barnes, McClain, DVD, Huff all dinged…
    http://www.raidernationstation.com/raider_war_room

    =====

    Good gawd!
    ==================================

    Ahh, that guy gets his info here and then goes and posts it on his own site. But then again, so does NFL.com, florio, ESPN and half the NFL GM’s.

  71. La Milicia Negra Says:

    —-”NFL Films guru Greg Cosell was encouraged by Carson Palmer’s arm strength in his first start with the Raiders last week. “I know everybody is focused on the interceptions, but I thought Palmer threw the ball extremely well. I thought he read coverage well,” Cosell said. “He made about three or four ‘Wow’ throws. He looked comfortable in the pocket. … He had good velocity.” Palmer rarely made “Wow” throws with the Bengals the past two years. It sounds like the long layoff did his arm plenty of good”—-

  72. The Return of Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    GoodOle00 Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 4:25 pm
    Sey Bush, Beech, Bigelow, whos this idiot think he’s kidding? Many computers, one IP address moron…
    ———
    I am only one of them.

  73. beach Says:

    58.Seymour Bush Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 4:15 pm
    For all you “geniuses” who think we should cut Satele, go watch the tape from when Satele goes out, til the end. Wisneiwski got his ass KICKED out there. Which meant Bush went nowhere, and Palmer was sacked 3 or 4 times in a quarter and a half.

    ————————–
    I was there. Satele came out banged up. Last 5 runs by Bush–nada. This is truth.

  74. mcfadden20. Says:

    Let’s go D!!!!

  75. VanHeathen Says:

    The GAME is saying that DMac has Plantar Fasiaitis,
    which is truE, is worse than a sprain…
    WTF!!!

  76. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    The more I think about it the more it stinks. I made the mistake of turning on sports radio after my last post & Eric Davis former niner just echoed my thoughts exactly. Hu jack tabbed guys as the leaders told the guys to follow them & they did. The locker room bought in & we won. Now after some strange dealins he wants them to forget the guys that were leading and accept new guys claiming he wanted them all along. I don’t think that is will fly if we continue losing. Especially if the bungles flop. Hue jack is being exposed a’s a duplicitous silver younger snake oil peddler. Why hue jack? You had a good thing going

  77. Sullivan44 (Tebowing...) Says:

    Brien’s probably in jail.

  78. 4.2 40 Says:

    Floyd is out for Thursday nite game, there back had 4 receptions for 78 yards….

  79. Master Beeecham Says:

    Raiderfandork, you’re one of my lowest level minions. Barely worth my time except for a few slaps here and there. Purely for my own amusement and satisfaction.

    But I acknowledge your efforts to honor and respect your master.

    I rule.

  80. Sullivan44 (Tebowing...) Says:

    I mean, let’s do the math.

    Threatens people on this blog.

    Takes Raider football way too seriously, like a gang.

    Goes to games, gets extremely intoxicated.

    Raiders loss was brutal Sunday, embarrassing.

    I’d say it’s almost eminent that Brien got into a fight and got thrown in jail. Probably can’t afford bail, and will be in county jail for 30 days or something.

  81. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    I hate this auto correct

  82. mcfadden20. Says:

    You guys expect way too much of every single coach like we were a playoff team before Hue

  83. The Return of Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Sullivan44 (Tebowing…) Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 4:30 pm
    I mean, let’s do the math.

    Threatens people on this blog.

    Takes Raider football way too seriously, like a gang.

    Goes to games, gets extremely intoxicated.

    Raiders loss was brutal Sunday, embarrassing.

    I’d say it’s almost eminent that Brien got into a fight and got thrown in jail. Probably can’t afford bail, and will be in county jail for 30 days or something.
    ———–
    Yeah, you’re probably right. He seemed like he was going to lose his marbles after the KC game. Can’t imagine what happened after that humiliating loss.

  84. beach Says:

    So, I am paying for the M F ‘ers to play video games and go to strip clubs, instead of wanting to win the effing division. I think I need to go for a walk before I rip the effing computer out of the G _ _ D _ _ _ WALL!!!

  85. mcfadden20. Says:

    Then u guys compare him to the cross rivals coach but the guy is not coaching for first time…

  86. Sullivan44 (Tebowing...) Says:

    Eric Davis is another Campbell homer.

  87. The Return of Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Brien probably hit some guy in a Tebow jersey.

  88. Sullivan44 (Tebowing...) Says:

    Brien’s probably trying to get access to a computer in jail right now. Mods, check the IPs, just for kicks.

  89. beach Says:

    Hue is not killing the team: McFadden and his sissy injuries are!

  90. The Return of Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Beach Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 4:33 pm
    So, I am paying for the M F ‘ers to play video games and go to strip clubs, instead of wanting to win the effing division. I think I need to go for a walk before I rip the effing computer out of the G _ _ D _ _ _ WALL!!!
    —–
    I made that up. Just a joke. But, I imagine that’s what is going on the way they played last week.

  91. Sullivan44 (Tebowing...) Says:

    Can’t blame Hue for the defense. And they lost the game Sunday.

  92. 4.2 40 Says:

    * back up…..Is this same line reshuffle of last week or part deaux….

  93. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    I believed you hue jack but you have dismantled Davis’s raiders. I thought you would carry on our hallmark traditions but you want to be the bungles. If we go into a tailspin I will remember you as the guy that wrecked our positive movement & resurrgence lost in a haze of panic stricken obsession over has been receivers & underachieving entitled knuckle head qb. We will find out if Palmer housh & bush are better then jc dhb & dmac. I say he’ll no they arent

  94. olinesux Says:

    no but we were when al was pimp slapping his dumb moves..

  95. wasbanned Says:

    I’ve had my say on the previous post. I feel better now.

    Hope they find a way to “Just Win Baby” against the hated Chargers.

    GO RAIDERS!

  96. mcfadden20. Says:

    Calm down guys … We know why were losing it’s because of that scrub chuck

  97. beach Says:

    Mistic,
    Is Campbell a leader while he’s on the sideline collecting a paycheck? We were all but guaranteed 4-12 with Boller at QB. Palmer is 10 times better than Campbell. The defense has been sucking win and costing us winnable games. Our offense is not the problem!

  98. olinesux Says:

    hue is the problem!

  99. mcfadden20. Says:

    What dumb move you guys talking about? Upgrading our QB position seriously KC Loss was all On Kyle boller’s pick 6’s last loss was on D …

  100. beach Says:

    Mistic, Bush is in because McFadden hurt his poor little foot. You are insane! We are a much better team in the future with Palmer over JaCampbell.

  101. Blackmamba_20 Says:

    guys need a bit of happy veiwing check out sanchez flinching on the line, priceless

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ejpTVCVbrE&feature=grec_index

  102. mcfadden20. Says:

    Let hue work his magic on D next season we will then see what happens…

  103. olinesux Says:

    Freakin TJ, no name safety, and not playing bey!

  104. 4.2 40 Says:

    Mystic after reading your posts and digesting, albeit, spitting them out, your credibility as someone who is objective is non existent. Sure wish I could send you nice virus…..What’s your UP address…

  105. beach Says:

    Mistic and Olinesux liked things much better accepting defeat under Lord Davis the last 27 years. I want someone that wants to win the Super Bowl in the near future! That man is Hue Jackson, baby!

  106. Blackmamba_20 Says:

    palmer has already shown he can do more than any QB in a long time at the raiders, when did cambpell even throw 3 tds and 340 yards.. picks are an issue but we will put that down to rust

  107. mcfadden20. Says:

    Wassup mamba ?

  108. RaiderLen Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 4:35 pm
    I believed you hue jack but you have dismantled Davis’s raiders. I thought you would carry on our hallmark traditions but you want to be the bungles. If we go into a tailspin I will remember you as the guy that wrecked our positive movement & resurrgence lost in a haze of panic stricken obsession over has been receivers & underachieving entitled knuckle head qb. We will find out if Palmer housh & bush are better then jc dhb & dmac. I say he’ll no they arent
    ———————————————–
    Palmer for Boller. Bush for an injured DMAC. Housh for Hagen.

    What is the problem?

  109. olinesux Says:

    raiders were in thr freaking super bowl in not even ten years ago, how many teams have? That was Als team, al has 3 sb wins…youll see what a slow azz zone defense will do

  110. Raiderjambo Says:

    Time for EVERYBODY to grow a pair and get the job done! Please EVERYBODY stop all those BS excuses and do your damn jobs which you are very well compensated for. THE RAIDER NATION demands nothing more than total victory. No need to build a bully, just build a committed football team, and the bullying will eventually take care of itself. Hammer it down the chargers throats, and once they are completely f****d then you can call your fancy plays. Please play to the team’s strengths, and oh yeah “JUST WIN BABY!”

  111. beach Says:

    Thanks 4.2.40. Honestly, it is sad to see Al pass away. But, to blame Hue right now is insane. Maybe getting Housh was unneccessary, but every other move Hue has made I agree with.

  112. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Beach Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 4:38 pm
    Mistic,
    Is Campbell a leader while he’s on the sideline collecting a paycheck? We were all but guaranteed 4-12 with Boller at QB. Palmer is 10 times better than Campbell. The defense has been sucking win and costing us winnable games. Our offense is not the problem!
    …….

    Your opinion is like 99% of the blog but what is it based on looking at the numbers jc is better, if you like less picks, & clutch play on 3rd down & in the 4th quarter.

    These are what I looked at in my comparison the numbers that really count. Yards & tds are offset by picks the more you throw the less you can be viewed as good. Jc threw eight picks last year, Palmer threw a mind numbing 20 & has 6 in 1 1/2 games!

    I’m not seeing the so called upgrade so far

  113. mcfadden20. Says:

    Olinesux Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 4:41 pm
    Freakin TJ, no name safety, and not playing bey!

    ——

    There are no freaking Troy polamalus walking around to b picked … And theres not much difference between our receivers .. The guy threw for almost 350 yards I don’t see how mug difference bey would have made for us …

  114. DaTruth91 Says:

    I know seymour and kelly get bashed alot on here, but if anyone has every played interior def line..your job is gap control. Watching the game film, the defensive ends didnt hold the edge and the line backers didnt fill the correct holes.. Its a team game and no Defense takle can dominate if he has no help

    and in no way am i excusing his behavior on the penalties and it makes me wonder if seymour did the same thing for the pats…

  115. olinesux Says:

    in what world is tj better than hagan? for that matter than bey? u guys are high!

  116. Blackmamba_20 Says:

    107.mcfadden20. Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 4:43 pm
    Wassup mamba ?

    wassup cuzi,

    big game thrusday..

    sure wish darren was healthy…

    Lets beat up rivers an co

  117. RaiderLen Says:

    I’m not seeing the so called upgrade so far
    —————————–
    To argue Campbell is a straw man…literally.

    The comparison is Boller V Palmer.

  118. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    Seymour is up next on NFL network………

  119. mcfadden20. Says:

    Seriously Oline you think the D is not to be blamed for 3 of our 4 losses ?

  120. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Sullivan44 (Tebowing…) Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 4:29 pm

    Brien’s probably in jail.
    ________________________________________________________

    or OD’ed

  121. DaTruth91 Says:

    And even though i am not happy with Hue Jackson…I still trust him more than any other coach in the last 8 years…

    that being said, just like DHB dropped some balls his rookie year, Hue is dropping some balls as a coach….all that matters is how he responds.

  122. olinesux Says:

    bey stretches the def…a safety has to cover the top regardless if u believe it or not, thats one less guy getting to bush/dmc cmon man…,

  123. 4.2 40 Says:

    Hey Beach…Have a good evening…

  124. beach Says:

    To all Raider fans: it is acceptable to wallow in misery Sunday nights and Monday after a loss. It’s Tuesday now and 48 hours until kickoff! Focus on San Diego. Yes, we are banged up, but they are, too! Who wants this division more? The team with the hungrier D will be victorious Thursday Night. It better be thE OAKLAND RAIDERS!

  125. Method To My Madness Says:

    3 INTs that happened on the opponents side ofthe 50 aint an upgrade….as of now Carson aint an elite qb….not even that good right now

  126. olinesux Says:

    yeah the def is playing bad, they are trying to play zone!

  127. La Milicia Negra Says:

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 4:39 pm

    KC Loss was all On Kyle boller’s pick 6’s last loss was on D …
    ________________________________________________________

    what does that mean? “Boller’s pick 6’s”

  128. inonewordraider Says:

    Your opinion is like 99% of the blog but what is it based on looking at the numbers jc is better, if you like less picks, & clutch play on 3rd down & in the 4th quarter.

    These are what I looked at in my comparison the numbers that really count. Yards & tds are offset by picks the more you throw the less you can be viewed as good. Jc threw eight picks last year, Palmer threw a mind numbing 20 & has 6 in 1 1/2 games!

    I’m not seeing the so called upgrade so far

    _____________________________________
    compare Jc’s first start with the Raiders (was it vs Tenn) against CP’s first start with the Raiders. Then compare JC’s next 8 starts with the Raiders (including the one he got benched) to CP’s next 8 starts with the Raiders. If JC does better I’ll admit you were right if CP does better you admit I am right deal?

  129. Raiderjambo Says:

    RAIDERS 28 sun deeego 24 in a tight one.

  130. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Bringing in Palmer was understandable to a degree our starter went down. But giving up the picks & paying that huge sum of money is dicey. Especially in light of the fact that we had a qb playing well winning & was loved in the lockeroom & seen a’s the unquestioned leader of the team.

    Benching DHB is inexcusable. He is either not sold or bending to the whims of Palmer neither would be good. DHB is having his best season as a pro, & was a team leader by virtue of his work ethic & production.

    I’m very concerned as these kind of backdoor dealings can kill a season ask gradkowski & cabel

  131. mcfadden20. Says:

    Olinesux Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 4:46 pm
    in what world is tj better than hagan? for that matter than bey? u guys are high!

    Really ur talking about Hagan like he was pro bowler the guy barely had 10 cathed in 6 games .. Did u see that catch in the middle that TJ mad got hit had but still held on. That is he was brought in to go in the middle which none of our other players can do .. An bey I don’t know what’s up with him but did it seem like we missed him?

  132. RaiderLen Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 4:49 pm
    3 INTs that happened on the opponents side ofthe 50 aint an upgrade….as of now Carson aint an elite qb….not even that good right now
    —————————————
    He’s better than Boller, and will demonstrate he’s better than Campbell.

    No doubt in my mind.

  133. Sullivan44 (Tebowing...) Says:

    Mistic is so threatened by the idea of the Raiders winning any way but Al’s way. And he’s losing it. That’s all this is.

  134. Raider2DaHeart Says:

    Richard Seymour Talkin Now…

  135. Method To My Madness Says:

    120.La Milicia Negra Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 4:48 pm
    Sullivan44 (Tebowing…) Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 4:29 pm

    Brien’s probably in jail.
    ________________________________________________________

    or OD’ed

    ***************

    LMN i been cool wit ya for the last month or so….please lets keep it that way ok bruh?

  136. wasbanned Says:

    TDESPN Trent Dilfer
    #filmstudy Raiders vs. Broncos, Carson Palmer throws 3 int’s & perception is that he stinks. 1 great play by corner, 1 getting hit, 1 on him

  137. Method To My Madness Says:

    132.RaiderLen Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 4:51 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 4:49 pm
    3 INTs that happened on the opponents side ofthe 50 aint an upgrade….as of now Carson aint an elite qb….not even that good right now
    —————————————
    He’s better than Boller, and will demonstrate he’s better than Campbell.

    No doubt in my mind.

    ********************

    He will have to play at least to JC’s level and he hasnt yet…yeah he can make great throws as well as bad INTs….cant have that

  138. mcfadden20. Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 4:49 pm
    3 INTs that happened on the opponents side ofthe 50 aint an upgrade….as of now Carson aint an elite qb….not even that good right now

    —— yeah thats not good either but 24 points are good enough to beat the freaking Broncos with tebow , any

  139. Method To My Madness Says:

    136.wasbanned Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 4:53 pm
    TDESPN Trent Dilfer
    #filmstudy Raiders vs. Broncos, Carson Palmer throws 3 int’s & perception is that he stinks. 1 great play by corner, 1 getting hit, 1 on him

    **********************

    Fk that….its always on the QB….fk Dilfer and his BS right now

  140. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 4:52 pm

    120.La Milicia Negra Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 4:48 pm
    Sullivan44 (Tebowing…) Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 4:29 pm

    Brien’s probably in jail.
    ________________________________________________________

    or OD’ed

    ***************

    LMN i been cool wit ya for the last month or so….please lets keep it that way ok bruh?
    ________________________________________________________

    absolutely! im also cool with you, but you like to talk about what “vitamins” you are talking… I wasnt trying to be mean spirited just poking you =)

  141. The Return of Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 4:49 pm
    3 INTs that happened on the opponents side ofthe 50 aint an upgrade….as of now Carson aint an elite qb….not even that good right now
    ——–
    Hey, he’s OK. We thought maybe you got arrested at the game. Or, maybe you are just a troll.

  142. Method To My Madness Says:

    138.mcfadden20. Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 4:54 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 4:49 pm
    3 INTs that happened on the opponents side ofthe 50 aint an upgrade….as of now Carson aint an elite qb….not even that good right now

    —— yeah thats not good either but 24 points are good enough to beat the freaking Broncos with tebow , any

    *********************

    did you not see that we played denver earlier this year? not easy to beat people twice

  143. La Milicia Negra Says:

    McFadden20..

    see post 127

  144. GoodOle00 Says:

    70.Seymour Bush Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 4:26 pm
    GoodOle00 Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 4:23 pm

    Raider Nation-Station
    NEW!~ 11-08-11: INJURIES LOOM LARGE AS RAIDERS HEAD TO SAN DIEGO
    DMC, Satele, Barnes, McClain, DVD, Huff all dinged…
    http://www.raidernationstation.com/raider_war_room

    =====

    Good gawd!
    ==================================

    Ahh, that guy gets his info here and then goes and posts it on his own site. But then again, so does NFL.com, florio, ESPN and half the NFL GM’s.

    =========

    This is the best source for raider info. How could it not be but these guys break alot of stuff first.

    They said DMC would miss SD on the 2nd of the month.

  145. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Not really much to say anymore. – Seymour up on tv clownin with “x-rated signs” and “Raider Nation!”

    How about being prepared to win when the offense spots you 17 points.

    Seymour just saying the same ole stuff about “we are getting it fixed” “consistency” “blah blah blah”

    How about the team just comes out prepared and disciplined. How about the top 4 guys (Seymour, TK, Routt and Wimbley” take over a quarter.

  146. Method To My Madness Says:

    141.The Return of Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 4:54 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 4:49 pm
    3 INTs that happened on the opponents side ofthe 50 aint an upgrade….as of now Carson aint an elite qb….not even that good right now
    ——–
    Hey, he’s OK. We thought maybe you got arrested at the game. Or, maybe you are just a troll.

    **********************

    MR….keep it moving man

  147. Sullivan44 (Tebowing...) Says:

    Interesting that Brien pops up right as people are talking about him. He was using another name, then saw his main handle being dissed, so he switched up. What a joke.

  148. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Len it isn’t Palmer for boller because raiders inked palmer long term, it’s Palmer unread of team leader & captain jc. maybe this could work but coupled with the DHB thing I’m suddenly seeing hue jack in a completely different light. I was his main supporter from before he even was hired as coordinator.

    I have been a coach & a player in sports, & the team must be able to take your word to the bank. Hue jack is now officially suspect in my book because his word has failed

  149. inonewordraider Says:

    gradkowski & cabel
    _______________
    you said earlier we should have kept grads as a backup but there’s no tellin if Campbell would have been as effective with Grads as his backup so I’d argue that it wouldn’t have been a good idea…. Agree or disagree?

  150. mcfadden20. Says:

    It’s our D that’s killing us , turnovers need to be limited too but the team across the bay isn’t winning by the Offense , it’s their D always keeping them in the game wether they turn it over on turnover or 3 and outs their D is the reason their winning and our D is responsible for 3 of the 4 losses this season …

  151. olinesux Says:

    again bey stretches the def and creates space for our running game. TJ had one catch and three drops neither of which he could seperate from a …..LB! But like mystic is saying ( i dont agree with him much but here yeah)…,Hue is fracturing the team by bringing in some of these guys…palmer is a great addition but TJ?

  152. GoodOle00 Says:

    Palmers the best QB since Gannon

  153. beach Says:

    Mistic,

    I was fine with Campbell, OK? He got flattened and is out for the year, OK? Now. It’s accept 4-12 and pray that Campbell can play a full season next year, or try to improve your QB for the next 3 years. It was a tough decision, but Hue had the CAJONES to make the RIGHT move! With this defense, I am not convinced you will see it this season, but I guarantee it Palmer will bring this team to the playoffs in 2012. Of course, I’m assuming somebody that gets paid to make these decisions improves our DEFENSE!

  154. Method To My Madness Says:

    140.La Milicia Negra Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 4:54 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 4:52 pm

    120.La Milicia Negra Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 4:48 pm
    Sullivan44 (Tebowing…) Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 4:29 pm

    Brien’s probably in jail.
    ________________________________________________________

    or OD’ed

    ***************

    LMN i been cool wit ya for the last month or so….please lets keep it that way ok bruh?
    ________________________________________________________

    absolutely! im also cool with you, but you like to talk about what “vitamins” you are talking… I wasnt trying to be mean spirited just poking you =)

    **************

    I dont do pills or anything except weed and drank bruh

  155. Raider2DaHeart Says:

    Seymour didn’t say much. Just talked about consistency.

  156. The Return of Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 4:56 pm
    141.The Return of Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 4:54 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 4:49 pm
    3 INTs that happened on the opponents side ofthe 50 aint an upgrade….as of now Carson aint an elite qb….not even that good right now
    ——–
    Hey, he’s OK. We thought maybe you got arrested at the game. Or, maybe you are just a troll.

    **********************

    MR….keep it moving man
    ——-
    What section were you sitting in Brien?

  157. RaiderLen Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 4:51 pm
    Bringing in Palmer was understandable to a degree our starter went down. But giving up the picks & paying that huge sum of money is dicey. Especially in light of the fact that we had a qb playing well winning & was loved in the lockeroom & seen a’s the unquestioned leader of the team.

    Benching DHB is inexcusable. He is either not sold or bending to the whims of Palmer neither would be good. DHB is having his best season as a pro, & was a team leader by virtue of his work ethic & production.

    I’m very concerned as these kind of backdoor dealings can kill a season ask gradkowski & cabel
    ————————————-
    Riding Boller would have been a disaster, Palmer offers hope to a roster of men that presumably want to win now.

    I’m in DHB’s corner, but to suggest he’s a leader is a reach. He has not produced a large enough body of work to be seen that way by his peers.

  158. r8dercain Says:

    B@uce!!
    Wasup man

    Just lickin wounds here bruh!

  159. Method To My Madness Says:

    147.Sullivan44 (Tebowing…) Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 4:56 pm
    Interesting that Brien pops up right as people are talking about him. He was using another name, then saw his main handle being dissed, so he switched up. What a joke.

    ***************

    I was in here earlier today MR….everyone saw the posts by me….please dont trying to deflect the fact you are an admitted troll

  160. Method To My Madness Says:

    156.The Return of Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 4:57 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 4:56 pm
    141.The Return of Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 4:54 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 4:49 pm
    3 INTs that happened on the opponents side ofthe 50 aint an upgrade….as of now Carson aint an elite qb….not even that good right now
    ——–
    Hey, he’s OK. We thought maybe you got arrested at the game. Or, maybe you are just a troll.

    **********************

    MR….keep it moving man
    ——-
    What section were you sitting in Brien?

    **************

    Where da Brawl was and where they dump hella beer on the bronco chick

  161. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    “What was the point of watching film of Tim Tebow read optioning his way to 112 yards rushing and setting up Willis McGahee for 163 yards when the Raiders won’t see that kind of offense the rest of the season?

    The need to correct basic assignment football, according to Jackson as well as defensive tackle Richard Seymour and defensive coordinator Chuck Bresnahan.

    Bresnahan said film work included eight or nine plays from the first half when the defense did most things right, juxtaposed with second half film which showed them doing just about everything wrong. Bresnahan called it “disturbing” and promised to get it fixed. He said he wants off the roller coaster.”
    ======================================================
    I am still upset about this last blown opportunity….see quotes like this above shows you that this team just doesn’t get it!

  162. GoodOle00 Says:

    TJ move made sense because Hue knew DMC is gonna be out and our run game would get keyed on.

    Rookie and newbie WRs under coached by Lal whos only been coaching WRs this season and last.

    Makes sense and needs more than one game to see whats what

  163. Method To My Madness Says:

    Cain…well its man up or btch out time this thursday

  164. mcfadden20. Says:

    As well as the turnovers .. You guys notice the team just goes in funk when ever we turn it over .?

  165. RaiderLen Says:

    He will have to play at least to JC’s level and he hasnt yet…yeah he can make great throws as well as bad INTs….cant have that
    ————————————-
    Agreed with the int’s B.

    Give it some time. He’s shaking off the rust, and is still getting acclimated.

  166. Method To My Madness Says:

    WE all face adversity in life….who stands and overcomes it? Hue better humble himself and lead the team the way Al wanted him to or just be a loser coach

  167. Sullivan44 (Tebowing...) Says:

    Brien, whenever your name is mentioned, you suddenly pop up, as if you were summoned. Give me a break. You’re here all day posting under several names. As soon as you see “Brien” getting dissed, off you go to switch back to one of your known Brien aliases.

  168. The Return of Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    DaTruth91 Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 4:48 pm
    And even though i am not happy with Hue Jackson…I still trust him more than any other coach in the last 8 years…

    that being said, just like DHB dropped some balls his rookie year, Hue is dropping some balls as a coach….all that matters is how he responds.
    ———–
    Sullivan, I think Brien is DaTruth91. Uses the same style of writing. His post disappeared right before Method showed up.

  169. Method To My Madness Says:

    Anyhow…im outro

    Raiders 24
    Chargers 20

    Good day people

  170. mcfadden20. Says:

    They just give up after turnovers..

  171. Sullivan44 (Tebowing...) Says:

    I’m just glad Hue’s fate is in Mark Davis’s hands. At least he’ll get a chance.

  172. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 4:57 pm

    140.La Milicia Negra Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 4:54 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 4:52 pm

    120.La Milicia Negra Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 4:48 pm
    Sullivan44 (Tebowing…) Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 4:29 pm

    Brien’s probably in jail.
    ________________________________________________________

    or OD’ed

    ***************

    LMN i been cool wit ya for the last month or so….please lets keep it that way ok bruh?
    ________________________________________________________

    absolutely! im also cool with you, but you like to talk about what “vitamins” you are talking… I wasnt trying to be mean spirited just poking you =)

    **************

    I dont do pills or anything except weed and drank bruh
    ______________________________________________________

    WHAT?!?!? well then I have say sorry, I was sure you’ve been talking about your beers and oxycontin being your favorite breakfast..

    again sorry..!

  173. mcfadden20. Says:

    Late method

  174. Method To My Madness Says:

    167.Sullivan44 (Tebowing…) Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 5:00 pm
    Brien, whenever your name is mentioned, you suddenly pop up, as if you were summoned. Give me a break. You’re here all day posting under several names. As soon as you see “Brien” getting dissed, off you go to switch back to one of your known Brien aliases.

    **************************

    smh….no need for aliases…the B^auce is always known…he has a certain style that only he can master…MR…but you can always meet me bruh…no issue at all

  175. olinesux Says:

    a waterboy can cover tj! I think Al had it right man to man defense with pressure up front…see the last game against the queefs last year and both games against the donks….he needed a qb thats all….

  176. The Return of Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    What section were you sitting in Brien?

    **************

    Where da Brawl was and where they dump hella beer on the bronco chick
    ———-
    I saw that. I was up above in section 337, row 2.

  177. Sullivan44 (Tebowing...) Says:

    With Mark Davis being in charge, Hue will at least get a couple of years to get this team truly competitive. He won’t have to worry about the overhead projector.

  178. Method To My Madness Says:

    168.The Return of Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 5:00 pm
    DaTruth91 Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 4:48 pm
    And even though i am not happy with Hue Jackson…I still trust him more than any other coach in the last 8 years…

    that being said, just like DHB dropped some balls his rookie year, Hue is dropping some balls as a coach….all that matters is how he responds.
    ———–
    Sullivan, I think Brien is DaTruth91. Uses the same style of writing. His post disappeared right before Method showed up.

    ***********

    Go to archives MR and see how that is beyond false…people have met me at games…so its no secret who I am

    Now check ya later

  179. La Milicia Negra Says:

    La Milicia Negra Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 4:50 pm

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 4:39 pm

    KC Loss was all On Kyle boller’s pick 6’s last loss was on D …
    ________________________________________________________

    what does that mean? “Boller’s pick 6’s”
    ——————————————————–

    hey! what do you mean?

  180. RaiderLen Says:

    I have been a coach & a player in sports, & the team must be able to take your word to the bank. Hue jack is now officially suspect in my book because his word has failed
    ——————————————
    I respect your opinion, but if I were a player on the Raiders, I’d have been happy about the Palmer signing.

    Boller was clearly less than Campbell.

    Palmer is clearly more than Boller.

  181. r8dercain Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 4:59 pm
    Cain…well its man up or btch out time this thursday
    ______________
    man it’s manup time. All in or go home!

  182. mcfadden20. Says:

    Yeah seriously Sullivan .. Good post this guys want to kill Hue for what he’s doing , they think it’s easy to freaking come in as a rookie coach and work with a young team and deal with Injuries to our startin. Qb and starting Rb and Half of our secondary and with a D coach that he didnt even wanted , even Coach Cable got to bring in his own D coordinator even though the scheme wasn’t going to change ..

  183. Blackmamba_20 Says:

    164.mcfadden20. Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 4:59 pm
    As well as the turnovers .. You guys notice the team just goes in funk when ever we turn it over .?

    —-

    We need to cause some turnovers too, wherez a damn sack fumble or pick 6.. sick of seeing it on us …

  184. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Riding Boller would have been a disaster, Palmer offers hope to a roster of men that presumably want to win now.

    I’m in DHB’s corner, but to suggest he’s a leader is a reach. He has not produced a large enough body of work to be seen that way by his peers.
    ……….

    Disagree he was the most productive wr on the roster. He was one of the guys that has been first in & last to leave setting the tone ( with jc) & the work ethic for the entire team. His professional growth along jc’s & dmac’s growth & contribution made them the leaders . They could say follow us & reap the benefit. Do it like we do it and win, & they did.
    They struggled were malingned put in the work and improved together which in turn elevated the entire team validated Davis’s faith & made hue jack look good.

    This new crew has huge shoes to fill not just on the field but in the Locker room. To discount these facts would be foolish.

    Palmer better win or we will sink back to the bottom in a bungles infused fireball of misery

  185. La Milicia Negra Says:

    RaiderLen Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 5:02 pm

    I have been a coach & a player in sports, & the team must be able to take your word to the bank. Hue jack is now officially suspect in my book because his word has failed
    ——————————————
    I respect your opinion, but if I were a player on the Raiders, I’d have been happy about the Palmer signing.

    Boller was clearly less than Campbell.

    Palmer is clearly more than Boller.
    _______________________________________________________

    Lenny, I tottaly agree!

  186. Plunk-It Says:

    Speaking of gap control and the defensive ends. Lamar Houston has been kind of invisible this year. He just doesn’t seem to be a dominant end. Losing Shaugnessy also had to have some impact on the run defense.

  187. La Milicia Negra Says:

    r8dercain Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 5:03 pm

    Method To My Madness Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 4:59 pm
    Cain…well its man up or btch out time this thursday
    ______________
    man it’s manup time. All in or go home!

    ——————————————————–

    oh yeah, wake up time! if we lose this one, we might as well hit snooze and wake up in april..

  188. inonewordraider Says:

    JC’s first 9 starts as a Raider vs CP’s first 9 starts as a Raider. JC does better Mistic is officially Mistic the QB guru, CP does better and Mistic can never mention JC’s name who’s down?

  189. La Milicia Negra Says:

    oh well McFadden20 apparently doesnt want to explain what the he11 he meant?!??!

  190. Blackmamba_20 Says:

    186.Plunk-It Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 5:08 pm
    Speaking of gap control and the defensive ends. Lamar Houston has been kind of invisible this year. He just doesn’t seem to be a dominant end. Losing Shaugnessy also had to have some impact on the run defense.

    sack wise yes, but he lead all players with tackles made vs donks, 3 at the LOS, 1 or 2 for loss..

  191. mcfadden20. Says:

    Last team we went into a game .500 we did pretty good and beat Houston , that’s hat will happen against SD. We will win this one

  192. inonewordraider Says:

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 5:10 pm
    Last team we went into a game .500 we did pretty good and beat Houston , that’s hat will happen against SD. We will win this one

    ______________
    now we’re talking!

  193. r8dercain Says:

    La Milicia Negra Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 5:09 pm
    r8dercain Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 5:03 pm

    Method To My Madness Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 4:59 pm
    Cain…well its man up or btch out time this thursday
    ______________
    man it’s manup time. All in or go home!

    ——————————————————–

    oh yeah, wake up time! if we lose this one, we might as well hit snooze and wake up in april..
    _______________
    man that’s damn sho what it’s gone feel like.
    Hybernation time. That’s fa sho

  194. mcfadden20. Says:

    That was last time ** not last team..

  195. Blackmamba_20 Says:

    Hue needs to call every brother in on the team an take them bowling LMAO team building exercises..

  196. mcfadden20. Says:

    We can handle Phillip it’s like we never faced him I remember beating him twice last year…

  197. r8dercain Says:

    Losing shonasty hurt badd

  198. inonewordraider Says:

    The press was on our nut$ after beating Houston with Al passing and what not fuc# that write us off like most the fans in here are doing. Shock the world

  199. Blackmamba_20 Says:

    why can we not use Taiwan like sproals does, screens and dump offs etc.. little bit of space and gone…

  200. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    The problems on this team resides strictly with the defense.

    Offense has twice put up over 24+ points with double digit leads at halftime….and this defense has done its best to give away the game.

    The only problem I have with the offense is not going back to running the ball. Bush should be given 25 carries period.

    Hue is acting very foolish trying to become this gunslinging team overnight. There is nothing wrong with pounding the rock and selectively taking shots downfield.

  201. mcfadden20. Says:

    Lol mamba maybe they can use the extra 3 days to watch movies and go bowling together lol

  202. beach Says:

    Mistic,

    I appreciate you have coached and I do believe in team chemistry. Would there be any excuse for veterans like Richard Seymour and Tommy Kelly to be upset that Carson Palmer is the new “leader” of the offense? These guys are paid big money to play and LEAD the defense. I don’t see the correlation here, since the changes were made on offense. Defense is the entire problem we are facing going to San Diego and the foreseeable future. Agree? Disagree? I want feedback!

  203. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    I’m already thinking about how hue jack can fix it if it tanks. Bring in Vince young next year & let him challenge Palmer even if Palmer wins we have a guy that can come in when he falters or gets injured. I thnk Vince young would be good in hue jacks offense. Or draft RGIII

  204. RaiderLen Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 5:06 pm
    Riding Boller would have been a disaster, Palmer offers hope to a roster of men that presumably want to win now.

    I’m in DHB’s corner, but to suggest he’s a leader is a reach. He has not produced a large enough body of work to be seen that way by his peers.
    ……….

    Disagree he was the most productive wr on the roster. He was one of the guys that has been first in & last to leave setting the tone ( with jc) & the work ethic for the entire team. His professional growth along jc’s & dmac’s growth & contribution made them the leaders . They could say follow us & reap the benefit. Do it like we do it and win, & they did.
    They struggled were malingned put in the work and improved together which in turn elevated the entire team validated Davis’s faith & made hue jack look good.

    This new crew has huge shoes to fill not just on the field but in the Locker room. To discount these facts would be foolish.

    Palmer better win or we will sink back to the bottom in a bungles infused fireball of misery
    ——————————————–

    I love the line “bungles infused fireball of misery” awesome…I hope THAT doesn’t come to pass. (no pun intended)

    Regarding DHB, I can’t go along with JUST the hardwork aspect. Agreed he was to date, the most productive WR, but J Ford was limited for a few games due to the hammy.

    I also played a little ball and respected the hard workers, but the hardworking “accomplished” guy(s) were the ones that got my attention.

    DHB will continue to get better and more productive, but I don’t think that Ford, or D Moore will be looking to Him for leadership.

  205. Sullivan44 (Tebowing...) Says:

    We probably will lose Thursday. I see SD jamming up any ball control game Hue tries to use. And if Hue tries to cut loose and put the game in the defense’s hands? lol. Well, when an offense led by Tim Tebow rips 38 points on you…

    Chargers 31, Raiders 17

  206. VanHeathen Says:

    DMac’s bad foot is KILLING US!
    Bush can’t break away in the 2nd level like DMac can…
    Still hoping he BUSTS out on Thursday.
    Could be the game changer we need…

  207. beach Says:

    LMN, The pick six is when the QB throws an interception that is returned for a touchdown.

  208. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    DHB & JC Stood for everything good in football. They rose above adversity destroyEd the naysayers & did it through good old fashioned hard work. Their example of perseverance and performance payoff resonated on a deep level with their team mates. It was the perfect come back story for them the raiders & al Davis. Then in the snap of a collarbone it is undone.

    WOW!

    Hu jack if your boys flop I will never forgive you for ruining what we were building bra.

  209. VanHeathen Says:

    POST #205:
    There’s no “WE” in you,
    go back to Sundays post where your getting your red & gold out and get lost….

  210. r8dercain Says:

    SnB Offense Defense Specialteams Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 5:15 pm
    The problems on this team resides strictly with the defense.

    Offense has twice put up over 24+ points with double digit leads at halftime….and this defense has done its best to give away the game.

    The only problem I have with the offense is not going back to running the ball. Bush should be given 25 carries period.

    Hue is acting very foolish trying to become this gunslinging team overnight. There is nothing wrong with pounding the rock and selectively taking shots downfield.
    ______________
    when you go in the locker room at the half up by 21pts then come out an give up a touchdown to start the second half. Then turn it over that was the killer

  211. RaiderLen Says:

    SnB Offense Defense Specialteams Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 5:15 pm
    The problems on this team resides strictly with the defense.

    Offense has twice put up over 24+ points with double digit leads at halftime….and this defense has done its best to give away the game.

    The only problem I have with the offense is not going back to running the ball. Bush should be given 25 carries period.

    Hue is acting very foolish trying to become this gunslinging team overnight. There is nothing wrong with pounding the rock and selectively taking shots downfield.
    ———————————————
    This is what I see.

    Play to the strengths of the roster at your disposal.

    Fix the D, let Palmer ease into an expanded role.

  212. mcfadden20. Says:

    I agree with you SnB , seems like Hue wants to score in 3 plays everytime . It won’t hurt if they call short passes all game long , to get the SD d tired and give our D rest ..

  213. r8dercain Says:

    Sullivan44 (Tebowing…) Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 5:16 pm
    We probably will lose Thursday. I see SD jamming up any ball control game Hue tries to use. And if Hue tries to cut loose and put the game in the defense’s hands? lol. Well, when an offense led by Tim Tebow rips 38 points on you…

    Chargers 31, Raiders 17
    ____________
    this is a raider blog for raider fans. Go away
    MR

  214. La Milicia Negra Says:

    beach Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 5:18 pm

    LMN, The pick six is when the QB throws an interception that is returned for a touchdown.
    _________________________________________________________

    thanks mate, did NOT know that!

  215. Blackmamba_20 Says:

    201.mcfadden20. Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 5:15 pm
    Lol mamba maybe they can use the extra 3 days to watch movies and go bowling together lol

    LOL yeah cuz get denzel washington to come in beat it into them..”Rememebr the Raiders” Stylz

  216. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Inonewordraider Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 5:09 pm
    JC’s first 9 starts as a Raider vs CP’s first 9 starts as a Raider. JC does better Mistic is officially Mistic the QB guru, CP does better and Mistic can never mention JC’s name who’s down?
    …..

    No I’m not but compare jc & his firs six quarters to Palmer’s first six & post the stats… I will wait. By the way hue jack said he benched jc after the first six quarter but not Palmer. He is obsessed

  217. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Losing Shaugnessy was huge the way Teblow ran that zone play to the weak side all he had to do was seal off the DE and he had half a field to run free.

    Maybe if Shaugnessy was in he would not have bit on that play like Moss did.

  218. mcfadden20. Says:

    You know why we haven’t seen a deep strike in a long time ? Because defense knows it’s coming every play…

  219. Blackmamba_20 Says:

    @209 LMAO nice

  220. RaiderRetribution Says:

    JHill I completely agree OL should be Vehldeer- Heyer- Wisniewski-Carlisle-Barksdale

  221. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “By the way hue jack said he benched jc after the first six quarter but not Palmer. He is obsessed”

    So you and Hue are NOT in “Lock Step” anymore?

    Because it was all we heard about in here for a month…now your admitting you were delusional all this time?

  222. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    This black superman drink isn’t helping my mood

    HUE JACK WTF ARE YOU DOING TO MY TEAM?!?!?!

  223. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 5:19 pm
    DHB & JC Stood for everything good in football. They rose above adversity destroyEd the naysayers & did it through good old fashioned hard work. Their example of perseverance and performance payoff resonated on a deep level with their team mates. It was the perfect come back story for them the raiders & al Davis. Then in the snap of a collarbone it is undone.

    WOW!

    Hu jack if your boys flop I will never forgive you for ruining what we were building bra.
    ====================================================
    I get what you are saying here….good post.

  224. mcfadden20. Says:

    I think Shaugnessy might have been our best player on our D and next year move Houston to DT and find a full time pass rusher someone like jared Allen

  225. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    Why is Palmer throwing four yards behing right side recievers?? Right side rust???

  226. mcfadden20. Says:

    Calm down about Hue all u Guys will look stupid , when he leads us o our 4th Lombardi this year..

  227. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 5:24 pm
    “By the way hue jack said he benched jc after the first six quarter but not Palmer. He is obsessed”

    So you and Hue are NOT in “Lock Step” anymore?

    Because it was all we heard about in here for a month…now your admitting you were delusional all this time?
    ……..

    I have to admit bra. I’m not in lock step but I do have lock jaw infected by hue jacks lies!!!

    Go ahead kick my ass I deserve it. I was hung HO on hue jack & believed his hype on the raider tradition. He fooled me.

  228. The Return of Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Raiders 38, Chargers 28

    Routt gets a pick 6 to seal the deal.

  229. RaiderLen Says:

    No I’m not but compare jc & his firs six quarters to Palmer’s first six & post the stats… I will wait. By the way hue jack said he benched jc after the first six quarter but not Palmer. He is obsessed
    ——————————————-
    If I were the Head coach of a Team and my job depended on wins and losses, I play the guy that I felt gave me the best chance to win.

    Hue thinks that Palmer is better than Boller, and I believe he thinks that Palmer is better than Campbell.

    That’s not obsessed, that a professional opinion.

  230. Blackmamba_20 Says:

    look we need to turn this baby round this thursday, we can beat these teams right up until green bay.. 8 – 4 would be nice ..

  231. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Of our four losses, two are on the defense : Buffalo and Denver, two on the offense: NE and Kansas City.

  232. mcfadden20. Says:

    860Todd Christensen Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 5:28 pm
    Why is Palmer throwing four yards behing right side recievers?? Right side rust???


    Because the timing is not their yet …

  233. mcfadden20. Says:

    There^^

  234. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    * gung ho

  235. mcfadden20. Says:

    RaiderRetribution Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 5:30 pm
    Of our four losses, two are on the defense : Buffalo and Denver, two on the offense: NE and Kansas City.

    In 4 wins we have even or positive turnover ration..
    In 4 losses we have negative turnover ratio…

  236. The Return of Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Palmer’s timing was off. He’s going to some good things once he shakes off the rust.

  237. Blackmamba_20 Says:

    @ Mcfadden20

    And the Players Ass# reject latest offer from Stern,

    Christ my sporting life is in dissary,

    So long ago it was when i was all barred up having DMAC run all over the Jets

  238. r8dercain Says:

    The Return Of Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 5:29 pm
    Raiders 38, Chargers 28

    Routt gets a pick 6 to seal the deal.
    ___________
    ok mr just took blogging to another level
    he just posted under sully that the raiders would lose.
    Now he puts on another sock an says they win.

    Wow MR good one

  239. Raiderjambo Says:

    Sally 44, please don’t come up with this “we” BS, when you’ve NEVER had anything positive to say about “OUR” team. No matter what in GOOD TIMES and in bad, never turn your back on “THE RAIDERS”>

  240. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 5:21 pm
    I agree with you SnB , seems like Hue wants to score in 3 plays everytime . It won’t hurt if they call short passes all game long , to get the SD d tired and give our D rest ..
    ===================================================
    Hue needs to just call a standard game. I was nervous watching CP doing the hurry-up and audibles at the line….also not sure I understand this thing about certain sets keeping the number 1 receiver off the field and taking away a safety valve in Boss.

    Hue has no consistency to his game calling and seems to want to go for it all..its a marathon, not a sprint.

    I also think he gives up on the run too quickly. Bush is a guy that needs 20+ carriers and the more he gets later in the game the more effective…but if you flip out after 1 three and out….team won’t be succesfull.

    Hue has got to get with it

  241. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    I’m hurting guys I only want to see my team win. The begining of this year was heaven. Owner & coach & SupaVillain inock step!! Now like the team I’m lost, uncertainty is the word that best describes it.

    Our future rides on bungles rejects?!?!? WTF happened?!?!

  242. mcfadden20. Says:

    we need o win Thursday it’s a must win Game

  243. Blackmamba_20 Says:

    Ok time to call a score

    Raiders #23

    bolts #21

    Seabass the difference maker !!!

  244. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Sully is a niner fan

  245. r8dercain Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 5:34 pm
    I’m hurting guys I only want to see my team win. The begining of this year was heaven. Owner & coach & SupaVillain inock step!! Now like the team I’m lost, uncertainty is the word that best describes it.

    Our future rides on bungles rejects?!?!? WTF happened?!?!
    _____________
    due to all the recent changes I’d say that the coach an owner were NOT in lock step.
    That’s just from observation

  246. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Obe won canobe … I mean Cason palmer your our only hope.

  247. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    Hue should of protected the lead in the 3rd and 4th, pound the rock, dink and dunk Boss, throw an occasional downfield to keep em honest. Clock control and move the chains. My TV showed me neither. Time for a new TV.

  248. mcfadden20. Says:

    Our future is in good hands with Palmer … The guy is top 10 qb In this league ..Now just need to stop throwing high to wide open receivers and D needs to stop giving up big plays to scrub Qb’s , then we’ll b fine

  249. The Return of Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    R8dercain Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 5:32 pm
    The Return Of Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 5:29 pm
    Raiders 38, Chargers 28

    Routt gets a pick 6 to seal the deal.
    ___________
    ok mr just took blogging to another level
    he just posted under sully that the raiders would lose.
    Now he puts on another sock an says they win.

    Wow MR good one
    ——
    Proof that I’m not MR. I’ve always been positive about the Raiders. I’m much more of a kool-aid drinker than he is.

  250. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “Go ahead kick my ass I deserve it. I was hung HO on hue jack & believed his hype on the raider tradition. He fooled me.”

    Wow, I was going to rip into you but damn dude if you feel that bad…I am lost for words

  251. The Return of Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    860Todd Christensen Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 5:37 pm
    Hue should of protected the lead in the 3rd and 4th, pound the rock, dink and dunk Boss, throw an occasional downfield to keep em honest. Clock control and move the chains. My TV showed me neither. Time for a new TV.
    ——
    Exactly. Too bad he benched our starting TE for no good reason.

  252. RaiderLen Says:

    Our future rides on bungles rejects?!?!? WTF happened?!?!
    —————————————
    Actually, Palmer rejected the Bungles, and Housh left via FA for a pay day.

    The other guy &&**& don’t know.

  253. RaiderLen Says:

    Mcfadden20. Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 5:37 pm
    Our future is in good hands with Palmer … The guy is top 10 qb In this league ..Now just need to stop throwing high to wide open receivers and D needs to stop giving up big plays to scrub Qb’s , then we’ll b fine
    ———————————————————
    Agreed.

  254. Sullivan44 (Tebowing...) Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 5:34 pm

    Our future rides on bungles rejects?!?!? WTF happened?!?!

    ……………

    Injuries, numbnuts.

  255. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    Hue did not take control of this game coming out of the locker room. It is ALL on him. The D couldn’t adjust and the Donkys had way too much time in ball control in the second half. College plays and mass confusion in our D did us in. Was anyone upstairs watching this collasol collapse??? Not all of it is on Palmer!

  256. mcfadden20. Says:

    Hue is a really aggressive coach , and he’s a rookie coach . An he will learn to b little conservative as the time moves on ..

  257. Sullivan44 (Tebowing...) Says:

    And would Campbell not be a Redskins reject? Well, at any rate, now he’s a Raiders reject.

  258. r8dercain Says:

    Wow sully lots of jumping back an forth tonite

  259. GoodOle00 Says:

    KK

    THIS is a critical game

  260. GoodOle00 Says:

    256 TOO conservative against the Donks.

  261. mcfadden20. Says:

    The guy is doing everything to make this team a winner this maybe he just needs to calm down a little and think more about the whole thing/.

  262. PlunkforHOF Says:

    The Return of Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 4:32 pm
    Sullivan44 (Tebowing…) Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 4:30 pm
    I mean, let’s do the math.

    Threatens people on this blog.

    Takes Raider football way too seriously, like a gang.

    Goes to games, gets extremely intoxicated.

    Raiders loss was brutal Sunday, embarrassing.

    I’d say it’s almost eminent that Brien got into a fight and got thrown in jail. Probably can’t afford bail, and will be in county jail for 30 days or something.
    ———–
    Yeah, you’re probably right. He seemed like he was going to lose his marbles after the KC game. Can’t imagine what happened after that humiliating loss.

    ******************************************************

    MR says something stupid, but inflammatory

    MR as sockpuppet says yeah you’re right

    MR says Brien is a bad person

    MR as sockpuppet says He sure is, why he (something wildly untrue)

    MR says see? I told you so

  263. mcfadden20. Says:

    Nah I don’t think so the guy is always dialing up deeP passing plays..

  264. mcfadden20. Says:

    Nobody in their right mind can call Hue conservative he’s as aggressive as they come ..

  265. PlunkforHOF Says:

    The Return of Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 5:38 pm
    R8dercain Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 5:32 pm
    The Return Of Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 5:29 pm
    Raiders 38, Chargers 28

    Routt gets a pick 6 to seal the deal.
    ___________
    ok mr just took blogging to another level
    he just posted under sully that the raiders would lose.
    Now he puts on another sock an says they win.

    Wow MR good one
    ——
    Proof that I’m not MR. I’ve always been positive about the Raiders. I’m much more of a kool-aid drinker than he is.

    *********************************************

    YOU ABSOLUTELY STATED YOU AND MR WERE THE SAME PERSON BEFORE YOU “RETIRED”

  266. J Hill Says:

    I also think he gives up on the run too quickly. Bush is a guy that needs 20+ carriers and the more he gets later in the game the more effective…but if you flip out after 1 three and out….team won’t be succesfull.

    ——————————————————

    Wasn’t one 3 and out, it was back to back 3 and outs.

    Factor in Denver was scoring and actually took the lead, we had to pass.

    Again, I’ll say that you couldn’t possibly be complaining about the first half where were UP 17-7, right?

  267. Sullivan44 (Tebowing...) Says:

    As far as anyone knows, Mark Davis, THE OWNER AND GENERAL MANAGER OF THIS FOOTBALL TEAM, is fine with Hue Jackson, and will give him at least a couple of years. Let Hue do his job.

  268. mcfadden20. Says:

    But he will get better as the season goes along our team is in better hands ..

  269. mcfadden20. Says:

    This madden game is hard to play on all-madden level , previous versions were easier to beat on all-madden

  270. mcfadden20. Says:

    Mamba , do you see basketball season this year?

  271. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Mcfadden20. Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 5:53 pm
    But he will get better as the season goes along our team is in better hands ..
    ….

    Based on what the game film & numbers from the last 2 years say otherwise

  272. J Hill Says:

    860Todd Christensen Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 5:45 pm

    Hue did not take control of this game coming out of the locker room. It is ALL on him.

    ——————————————————-

    Hue wasn’t hired because of his defensive abilities. I’m really wondering what input, if any, he has had on the defense lately?

    It’s actually all on Chuck B, isn’t it?

    What can we really expect Chuck B to implement this late in the game? Especially with all the backup players that are seeing major snaps.

  273. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “Approximately 100 people — many of them members of a tight-knit Raiders family — attended a private Oct. 17 funeral service in Oakland at Conservative Temple Beth Abraham, where Rabbi Mark Bloom was the only speaker during a 30-minute ceremony. Afterward, Davis’ casket was taken by hearse on a two-mile ride to Chapel of the Chimes mausoleum and columbarium, where the former Raiders’ head coach and owner was entombed.”

    “After Davis died Oct. 8 at age 82, all details about his funeral and interment were kept secret so the family and friends could grieve privately. Davis was a longtime member at Beth Jacob Congregation, a Modern Orthodox synagogue in Oakland,”

    “At the service, Bloom wore a kippah adorned with the Raiders logo and a dark silver shirt in a nod to the team’s silver-and-black color scheme. Though he did not know Al Davis, Bloom spoke about his “trailblazing ways, his sense of hospitality, his sense of doing what was right whether or not others agreed with him [and] his loyalties.”

    Bloom invoked comparisons to the patriarch Abraham, which was Davis’ Hebrew name.

    The pallbearers were a mix of former Raiders coaches and players: John Madden, Tom Flores, Jim Plunkett, Art Shell, Willie Brown, Cliff Branch, George Atkinson and Ted Hendricks. Bloom said other former Raiders luminaries on hand included Dave Casper, Ken Stabler and Clem Daniels.”

    I never knew this before thought I would share with you f@ckers.

  274. mcfadden20. Says:

    I guess I’m the only one in here ..

  275. 4.2 40 Says:

    Len and Sully good posts…How is TJ a Bengal reject, he signed a 40 million pallor deal with seahawks and Carson retired…And now Campbell is a redskins/Raider reject…

  276. 4.2 40 Says:

    * dollar…

  277. mcfadden20. Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 5:57 pm
    Mcfadden20. Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 5:53 pm
    But he will get better as the season goes along our team is in better hands ..
    ….

    Based on what the game film & numbers from the last 2 years say otherwise

    Didn’t knew he was our coach last two years ..SMH

  278. mcfadden20. Says:

    Headcoach**

  279. 4.2 40 Says:

    273….Thanks for sharing…..!!!!!

  280. mcfadden20. Says:

    The guy made our O legitimate last year and this year too

  281. 4.2 40 Says:

    278….These cell phones and there suggestions….Arrrrgh…

  282. mcfadden20. Says:

    Now if someone makes our D better..

  283. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Carson went to mike brown and said me or marvin Lewis. Brown chose Lewis, this makes Carson a bungles reject. Yes jc is a foreskins reject butnone mans trash is another mans treasure. Carson is now the man let’s root for him, but NEVER FORGET WHAT KC MEANT TO THIS TEAM HE MADE US WINNERS AGAIN AND RESTORED A PROFESSIONAL ETHIC I AM ETERNALY GRATEFUL!!!!

    Lets- go- carson

  284. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Carson went to mike brown and said me or marvin Lewis. Brown chose Lewis, this makes Carson a bungles reject. Yes jc is a foreskins reject butnone mans trash is another mans treasure. Carson is now the man let’s root for him, but NEVER FORGET WHAT KC MEANT TO THIS TEAM HE MADE US WINNERS AGAIN AND RESTORED A PROFESSIONAL ETHIC I AM ETERNALY GRATEFUL!!!!

    Lets- go- carson clap clap clap clap clap

  285. mcfadden20. Says:

    4.2 40 Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 6:06 pm
    278….These cell phones and there suggestions….Arrrrgh…

    —-
    True.

  286. Silverandblack666 Says:

    http://www.jweekly.com/article/full/63203/al-davis-funeral-service-held-at-beth-abraham/

    link to full article

  287. Sullivan44 (Tebowing...) Says:

    Yeah, 666, Davis was a Jew that admired Hitler, not unlike Brien’s admiration for the Aryan Nation. It’s a weird Raider thing.

  288. PlunkforHOF Says:

    MR.. FU you FPOS

  289. mcfadden20. Says:

    Let’s go Defense .., clap, clap

  290. PlunkforHOF Says:

    We understand you hated Al Davis, but here you are fukking pissing on a dead man’s grave.. FU

  291. Sullivan44 (Tebowing...) Says:

    How am I pissing on his grave?

    Al is Jewish. Check.

    Al said publicly he admired Hitler. Check.

    Fact, fact.

    Take a nap, grouch.

  292. 4.2 40 Says:

    Carsons the man and let’s root for him…..The equivacation at the end is purely editorial speculation on YOUR part…Which is what I would expect from you…Someone with such insight and intelligence just can’t get past the fact about upgrading the QB position…It’s a shame, as I won’t spend much time reading anymore of your predictable posts…..

  293. Sullivan44 (Tebowing...) Says:

    Unless, of course, you consider me pointing out that Al’s a Jew to be pissing on his grave, rather, you think being Jewish is something to be ashamed of and that we shouldn’t talk about it? Is that what you’re getting at?

  294. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    SD’s 3rd game in 11 days, please run the fken ball, try n’ sustain some drives, keep SD’s D on the field and not ours…

  295. mcfadden20. Says:

    SO who will win the division?

  296. PlunkforHOF Says:

    You’re deranged

  297. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    4.2 40 Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 6:16 pm
    Carsons the man and let’s root for him…..The equivacation at the end is purely editorial speculation on YOUR part…Which is what I would expect from you…Someone with such insight and intelligence just can’t get past the fact about upgrading the QB position…It’s a shame, as I won’t spend much time reading anymore of your predictable posts…..
    ….

    Stfu newbie

  298. Blackmamba_20 Says:

    270.mcfadden20. Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 5:57 pm
    Mamba , do you see basketball season this year?

    Players rejected latest offer from stern, farrrk

    If they cancel season, then kobe gains another year on those legs, i want rings rings rings

    p.s all madden is much harder on this version, i go all pro and buff there passing and rushing stats, but not there rush D, gotta have my runaway mcfaddens on the counter left lol

  299. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    wrong amount of days, not feeling too hot right now.

  300. PlunkforHOF Says:
  301. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    272.J Hill Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 5:59 pm
    860Todd Christensen Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 5:45 pm

    Hue did not take control of this game coming out of the locker room. It is ALL on him.

    ——————————————————-

    Hue wasn’t hired because of his defensive abilities. I’m really wondering what input, if any, he has had on the defense lately?

    It’s actually all on Chuck B, isn’t it?

    What can we really expect Chuck B to implement this late in the game? Especially with all the backup players that are seeing.

    ———————————————–

    Jhill, you always post well. My grudge is Hue saw the game getting away early, we have guys in the booth reporting to him. When your game plan is exposed, go to plan B. How do you slow down an NFL team? Ball and Clock control. We did it very effectivly earlier this year, with the new gun slinger, it’s been forgotten. Remember what got us to where we are, it works. Balance, control tempo, move chains, TE’s in dinks, two best OL recievers on the pine? I don’t and will never buy in to this. We control ball and clock, Donky’s D is worn down, we score most possessions. 7 or 3, we add space and get the W.

  302. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    or maybe i’m right, oh well, not doing too good right now, need rest.

  303. PlunkforHOF Says:

    My apologies for feeding the troll..

  304. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    fire joepa, burn everybody involved in that coverup!

  305. mcfadden20. Says:

    Anyone?

  306. lefty12 Says:

    We have been outscored 134-77 in the 2nd half of games this year.It would appear we are getting outreached on both sides of the ball after half time adjustments.BTW,we are outscoring teams 107-84 in the 1st halves of games.

  307. mcfadden20. Says:

    Mamba, that extra second or two to throw a even simple pass is killing me.. They didn’t have that one last year

  308. Otis60 Says:

    I have been a Raiders fan since 1973 and I saw my first game in Oakland this past Sunday. I was in Heaven up until the score was tied 24-24. I will say Oakland had a lot more energy than LA did when the Raiders were the home team. The fans were awesome. I was not one of the fans that yelled, “Tebow sucks !” but I did yell, “Tebow can’t pass.” His receivers were so wide open for those TD’s I could have completed them.

  309. Sullivan44 (Tebowing...) Says:

    All of these Penn State guys painting Paterno as the victim, even our own Matt Millen. Disgusting. Millen broke down in tears on ESPN today, pleading to everyone to “wait till the facts come out”. Uh, Matt, the facts are out. We now know Paterno knew of this abuse, and just told the guy to keep it off of campus. Disgusting.

  310. mcfadden20. Says:

    Getting sacked too many times..

  311. 4.2 40 Says:

    Sully, I have tried to be respectful of your opinions and your diatribe…I know who you are and where you live…Leave his legacy alone…I am asking you respectfully, without malice or disrespect towards you…I will appreciate your cooperation in this matter…Your posts add a levity and edge to them which sometimes are not appreciated, but you keep everyone on there toes…You can be an asset, however, you choose to be just the opposite…I won’t address you on this matter again and expect you to be cognizant of my underlying subliminal messages to you…Your cooperation in this matter would be greatly appreciated……SO

  312. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    Otis, wecome to camp! Now suit up, you’re needed!

  313. Blackmamba_20 Says:

    Mcfadden20

    I throw alot of slants, and change alot of playes to slants.. Otherwise my ass getting sacked..I play with pryor so my deep game aint legit.

  314. Otis60 Says:

    Let me finish my Geritol first and I will !

  315. Sullivan44 (Tebowing...) Says:

    Herman Cain says we need a businessman in the white house. Uh…yeah, Herman. I think we tried that with Bush. Just drop out.

  316. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    they should “SMU” Penn St. football for that schit.

  317. Otis60 Says:

    Maybe he meant a self-made businessman ;)

  318. Blackmamba_20 Says:

    310.mcfadden20. Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 6:26 pm
    Getting sacked too many times..

    —–

    I found the west coast offence got me started, awsome move in weak, and thats where my killer counter is too..run balanced was another play book ive had success with.

  319. Sullivan44 (Tebowing...) Says:

    Self made businessman? Pffft. Unless you created something that advanced mankind, give me a break. You just succeeded on the backs of others. Pizza was around long before Herman Cain. And Godfathers pizza sucks anyway.

  320. mcfadden20. Says:

    Keep wiz out of that Penn state sh!t he didn’t had anything to do with it

  321. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    Otis, I’m older than you, but thank god, not as old as Kell! lol. Fan since 1964, but I graduated HS in 1973! At 17 yrs old!

  322. Otis60 Says:

    I was very upset about the loss to the Broncos but this Thursday might make or break our season. We might escape with the season still in tact if we lose by a very close score but if we lose to the Chargers like we did the past two games, we are in the Mariana Trench.

  323. mcfadden20. Says:

    Good sh!t Mamba , maybe changing to west coast will do wonders for me.

  324. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    having a sour day, need more herbal remedy.

  325. Otis60 Says:

    Kell is young at heart. I was really looking forward to going to Oakland. It has been a dream for a very long time. Being from the OC and born in the LBC I was able to attend a lot of the LA and San Diego “road” games though military service and funds prevented me from going to a lot of them. I will always love the Raiders, LA or Oakland, but Oakland is like Mecca to me.

  326. Sullivan44 (Tebowing...) Says:

    Hue’s going to have to completely overhaul this defense before we’re a real team. That has been proven the past 4 games. After this season, Bresh is gone, Hue picks his own DC, probably someone from Baltimore (heck yeah!). Finally, we’re competitive on both sides of the ball. Thank goodness with our new management, he can do all of this. As I said earlier, people won’t realize how profound the change will be with the Raiders until the coming off season.

  327. HyphyRaidaFan Says:

    I don’t get all of the backlash. Some say “Hue is drunk with power”. How is getting players that will help the team being drunk with Power? Who the heck else was going to make moves for the Raiders when Cambell went down? (I like Cambell, but if he knew how to freakin slide, we wouldn’t have to look for a QB in the first place.)Who else in the front office was going to do anything? We got Palmer (great move IMO) who the heck else was there? He looked at Gerrard (hurt) maybe Vince, Carson was the only one available and unfortunately in a bad predicament. We trade a first and a second. Big freakin deal! How many First round picks are currently on the squad now?? He did not squander the future of the team, the future of the team is already ON the team, if you can understand what Hue is talking about when he said the time is NOW.
    Some say he has an ego. Really? Being confident in the players that you coach is being arrogant? I would play for a coach that was confident in his players any day!
    Some say too much camera time. Really? WTH is he supposed to do, get on a conference call? Send an e-mail? Tweet? Facebook? He is supposed to do media time. Personally I never known another time wihin the last decade have the Raiders had as much media attention, it’s good people! Of course we have to win in the process!
    Calling Hue an idiot, over his head and the such is not carefully evaluating the WHOLE situation.
    4-2 before injuries (everyone was happy jumping for joy)
    0-2 afterwards (the whole world is now ending and Hue sucks), after he lost his STARTING QB who the offense was built around. We have not had a successful and consistently producing offense in YEARS, unlike the Patriots who could put a backup in (Cassel) and succeed after the starting QB went down. We had Boller, and we saw what happened, would you rather have that than CP3?? New QB, different skills means your offense WILL change, especially with DMC out of the picture, this takes time to do. Despite the 3 picks, he looked good, especially his arm strength (elbow) and being able to take a hit below (knee). Those were my concerns, he’ll be alright…

    Hue the blame for this loss? Only if he get’s credit for the wins as well! That loss to the Broncos was pitiful and embarrassing, however all the D had to do was contain Tebow that’s it and FAILED drastically the D and only the D is at fault! First place is not a bad place to be in! I thouht this was the freakin RAIDER NATION! LEt’s not be like the media wants us to be and start turning on the team, there is plenty of season left and if the D can play decent ball we will be in the playoffs!

  328. Otis60 Says:

    Todd, the 64 team was interesting. It started out slow but won most of its games towards the end of the season. I have read until 1967 the Raiders had difficulty winning on the East coast and the AFL used to schedule a block of those games for the Raiders to play at the beginning of the season.

  329. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    Otis, were you on subs? I’m an hour from Foxboro, two hours to Giant/Jets. Sub town here……

  330. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    328.Otis60 Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 6:42 pm
    Todd, the 64 team was interesting. It started out slow but won most of its games towards the end of the season. I have read until 1967 the Raiders had difficulty winning on the East coast and the AFL used to schedule a block of those games for the Raiders to play at the beginning of the season.

    ————————————————-
    If we had Otto now, we would be undefeted! lol

  331. mcfadden20. Says:

    F?ck the chargers…,

  332. wasbanned Says:

    can you imagine if Jason Garrett didn’t play a healthy Miles Austin in a division loss to the Redskins? Media would crucify him.

    yet Hue basically gets a pass for benching DHB…

    That’s because we are conditioned to the dysfunction of this organization.

  333. zopi Says:

    The problem, my guess, is that Palmer is not that much better than Jason Campbell, and at least Soup can extend plays with his quickness. But, Palmer cost is considerably higher, not just the high draft choices but the salary cap hits he’ll bring. For his supporters and admirers, he’d better win or they’ll be here looking to dump him and HueJax.

    What’s the difference of going 4-12 with Boller or 6-10 with Palmer, two games? And we must remember, Campbell could still be back this season, that’s of no consequence now. However, who’s to say that Palmer will last eight games? Who’s to say that he will not get hurt? I mean the guy is a standing stature, how long before Boller is back under center anyhow? Again, Palmer cost is way too high, and there is no guarantee or warranty, HueJax can’t take the draft picks back or escape the cap hits for the next three years.

    As well, as I said even before he was signed, with Palmer HueJax had to re-adjust his offensive scheme to fit Palmer. We’re already seeing the consequences that’s creating in the locker room. To top it off, HueJax brings TJ and moves him ahead in the depth chart and starts him over players who might not be as good as TJ, (I don’t think TJ is as good as TJ) but they have been working hard and deserving.

    But hey, HueJax is selling it hard and a lot of you are buying it, for your sake and the Raiders, I really hope they’re right and I’m wrong. We just have to watch.

    Again, without DMac and with Palmer as the main focus of the offense, the Raiders will not get very far this season, and there is no Andy Dalton to save the Raiders next season either. The Raiders are stuck with that car son, a real lemon I say.

  334. Otis60 Says:

    #326 and #327 I agree 100 percent. Even Cassel struggled in the beginning QBing the “mighty” Patriots.

  335. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 6:34 pm
    Keep wiz out of that Penn state sh!t he didn’t had anything to do with it
    ””””

    how would wiz be affected if they ban penn st. football for a yr. or two and him being pro now…go back to playing madden dude.

  336. edward teach Says:

    Most of you may already know this, but for those that don’t;

    “A Football Life: Al Davis” This Friday 10pm Eastern, NFL Network

  337. mcfadden20. Says:

    Let’s go Defense..

  338. wasbanned Says:

    TDESPN Trent Dilfer
    #filmstudy Tebow:1st TD to Decker 33 (Tyvon Branch)has a free run at TT, never should get ball off, but 33 (Tyvon Branch)stops blitz because of fear of run. Sweet throw

  339. mcfadden20. Says:

    RaideredoutL.A. Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 6:45 pm
    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 6:34 pm
    Keep wiz out of that Penn state sh!t he didn’t had anything to do with it
    ””””

    how would wiz be affected if they ban penn st. football for a yr. or two and him being pro now…go back to playing madden dude.

    -

    Huh? The guy is not involved in any of the ish going on .how would it affect him if his coaches effed up .. Doesn’t matter though cuz ur one Dvmb u know what they say ,..

  340. Otis60 Says:

    I’ll take Palmer’s last game, I don’t count his last interception, if the defense played below average in the second half Palmer would not have had to play catch up. Maybe his last and possibly his second interception does not happen.

  341. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    333.zopi Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 6:44 pm
    The problem, my guess, is that Palmer is not that much better than Jason Campbell, and at least Soup can extend plays with his quickness. But, Palmer cost is considerably higher, not just the high draft choices but the salary cap hits he’ll bring. For his supporters and admirers, he’d better win or they’ll be here looking to dump him and HueJax.

    What’s the difference of going 4-12 with Boller or 6-10 with Palmer, two games? And we must remember, Campbell could still be back this season, that’s of no consequence now. However, who’s to say that Palmer will last eight games? Who’s to say that he will not get hurt? I mean the guy is a standing stature, how long before Boller is back under center anyhow? Again, Palmer cost is way too high, and there is no guarantee or warranty, HueJax can’t take the draft picks back or escape the cap hits for the next three years.

    As well, as I said even before he was signed, with Palmer HueJax had to re-adjust his offensive scheme to fit Palmer. We’re already seeing the consequences that’s creating in the locker room. To top it off, HueJax brings TJ and moves him ahead in the depth chart and starts him over players who might not be as good as TJ, (I don’t think TJ is as good as TJ) but they have been working hard and deserving.

    But hey, HueJax is selling it hard and a lot of you are buying it, for your sake and the Raiders, I really hope they’re right and I’m wrong. We just have to watch.

    Again, without DMac and with Palmer as the main focus of the offense, the Raiders will not get very far this season, and there is no Andy Dalton to save the Raiders next season either. The Raiders are stuck with that car son, a real lemon I say.

    ————————————————

    Z, palmer gives us our best chance to win. Period! There was no-one available to help this club. Period! Hue not reacting in second half, stupid! Period! Will Carson come around? The unknowns, but I’m in. Hue, get off the camera’s and onto the field and be the general! Period!

  342. mcfadden20. Says:

    It’s good baby baby ..

  343. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    being an ex-player, I’d hate if they took football away from me, so I go back on what I said on the ban, it’s not their fault, but the big dogs involved should get hung.

  344. 4.2 40 Says:

    Brian, Bruce, OG, Henny, you don’t know who I am and your lack of intellectual capabilities leads me to believe that you don’t recognize this newbie as someone who has been here for years…Don’t threaten me with your ebonic slang, switchboard mentality and internet thugery like you do to so many others when they don’t agree with you..You lack the interpersonal skills that are requisite to make a compelling argument..You should watch how you interact because one day, perhaps sooner than you think, your bluff is going to be called…So read my posts and leave that gang related responses for your cronies…I would expect this will end our dialogue and suffice that this interrogatory will be sufficient enough for you to understand that your type of communication skills are better left on some street corner…When you would like to address me as an adult, fell free…I am not that much into the hidden anonymity of threats…I you have need for any interpretive requirements for my subject matter….Jump….

  345. mcfadden20. Says:

    Let’s go defense..!!!’n

  346. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Zopi Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 6:44 pm
    The problem, my guess, is that Palmer is not that much better than Jason Campbell, and at least Soup can extend plays with his quickness. But, Palmer cost is considerably higher, not just the high draft choices but the salary cap hits he’ll bring. For his supporters and admirers, he’d better win or they’ll be here looking to dump him and HueJax.

    What’s the difference of going 4-12 with Boller or 6-10 with Palmer, two games? And we must remember, Campbell could still be back this season, that’s of no consequence now. However, who’s to say that Palmer will last eight games? Who’s to say that he will not get hurt? I mean the guy is a standing stature, how long before Boller is back under center anyhow? Again, Palmer cost is way too high, and there is no guarantee or warranty, HueJax can’t take the draft picks back or escape the cap hits for the next three years.

    As well, as I said even before he was signed, with Palmer HueJax had to re-adjust his offensive scheme to fit Palmer. We’re already seeing the consequences that’s creating in the locker room. To top it off, HueJax brings TJ and moves him ahead in the depth chart and starts him over players who might not be as good as TJ, (I don’t think TJ is as good as TJ) but they have been working hard and deserving.

    But hey, HueJax is selling it hard and a lot of you are buying it, for your sake and the Raiders, I really hope they’re right and I’m wrong. We just have to watch.

    Again, without DMac and with Palmer as the main focus of the offense, the Raiders will not get very far this season, and there is no Andy Dalton to save the Raiders next season either. The Raiders are stuck with that car son, a real lemon I say.
    ……..

    Absolute 100 % irrefutable truth!!!!

  347. mcfadden20. Says:

    That sh!t their coach did in Penn state Is really wrong

  348. RaiderLen Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 6:08 pm
    Carson went to mike brown and said me or marvin Lewis. Brown chose Lewis, this makes Carson a bungles reject. Yes jc is a foreskins reject butnone mans trash is another mans treasure. Carson is now the man let’s root for him, but NEVER FORGET WHAT KC MEANT TO THIS TEAM HE MADE US WINNERS AGAIN AND RESTORED A PROFESSIONAL ETHIC I AM ETERNALY GRATEFUL!!!!

    Lets- go- carson
    —————————————-
    I’m not a “hairsplitter” but had Palmer not come to the Bungles with an ultimatum, He’d still be a Bungle.

    Palmer rejected them, and they chose to accept His rejection.

  349. lefty12 Says:

    Comment 273 from SNB666-thanks.

  350. mcfadden20. Says:

    Anything new nation

  351. Seymour Bush Says:

    333.zopi Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 6:44 pm
    The problem, my guess, is that Palmer is not that much better than Jason Campbell, and at least Soup can extend plays with his quickness. But, Palmer cost is considerably higher, not just the high draft choices but the salary cap hits he’ll bring.
    ===========================================

    Your lst two statements completely contradict each other. lst you say Palmer is not that much better than Campbell, but yet his cost is considerably higher. Well, there is a reason Palmer’s cost is considerably higher. He is BETTER. Much better. You might not understand that, but certainly people in the NFL do. Let me just say, if we could auction JCampbell off right now, we would NOT get a lst rounder that he was initially chosen with. I would be surprised if we got anything higher than a 4th.

  352. BakoRaider661 Says:

    The Raiders need to feed BUSH THE BALL..RUN THE BALL HUE dang it.

  353. RaiderLen Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 7:05 pm
    333.zopi Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 6:44 pm
    The problem, my guess, is that Palmer is not that much better than Jason Campbell, and at least Soup can extend plays with his quickness. But, Palmer cost is considerably higher, not just the high draft choices but the salary cap hits he’ll bring.
    ===========================================

    Your lst two statements completely contradict each other. lst you say Palmer is not that much better than Campbell, but yet his cost is considerably higher. Well, there is a reason Palmer’s cost is considerably higher. He is BETTER. Much better. You might not understand that, but certainly people in the NFL do. Let me just say, if we could auction JCampbell off right now, we would NOT get a lst rounder that he was initially chosen with. I would be surprised if we got anything higher than a 4th.
    ————————————-
    Thanks for responding, it saved me the trouble.

  354. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    Mcf20, my point was basically burn everybody involved then u mention wiz, like wtf?… yeah he went to penn st. but that dosen’t mean he’s involved. so u calling me out like that just makes u look like the dumb uh… u know what they say.

  355. 4.2 40 Says:

    There calling for Paterno’s head on the Pa papers…The worst thing, other than the horrific acts allegedly committed by sandusky, is that of last week he was on the Penn state campus , lifting weights.The complicity of spanier and others is undeniable and reprehensible. The pa governed was on campus today and I would expect paternal and spanier to go. What a terrible way to end his remarkable career…

  356. edward teach Says:

    #346,

    I don’t buy a lot of what Hue is selling, but I don’t buy your whole argument, either.

    I think Hue brought TJ in here because he didn’t have anyone that could play the slot. He tried with some of the guys he had but they weren’t cutting it there. Watch some of the previous games if you can; it’s pretty obvious that we had a need there.

    I don’t agree with you that Hue had to readjust the scheme for Palmer. If he was forced to adjust anything it was more than likely because McFadden was out. I think Jackson almost surely felt that Palmer could do more in the passing game than Campbell and may have adjusted some things because of what he thought was a greater capability at the position, but I certainly don’t think he adjusted anything because he thought he could do LESS, or that there were things Palmer couldn’t do. In fact, some of the rollouts he designed for Jason Campbell probably had as much to do with giving him that little extra time to pull the trigger as anything. Palmer doesn’t have that problem; he gets rid of the ball on time.

    As far as “seeing the consequences that’s creating in the locker room”, you may have to elaborate. I’ve heard rumors and speculation, but nothing from any player about that.

    Hue needs to get this team back on track, no doubt. There have been a lot of distractions and I don’t think it’s been handled all that well, but I think that in this case Hue addressed two distinct positions of need with the best players he could find. Looking around the league, it doesn’t appear that he could have found better players than he did.

  357. The Return of Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    PlunkforHOF Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 5:52 pm
    The Return of Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 5:38 pm
    R8dercain Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 5:32 pm
    The Return Of Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 5:29 pm
    Raiders 38, Chargers 28

    Routt gets a pick 6 to seal the deal.
    ___________
    ok mr just took blogging to another level
    he just posted under sully that the raiders would lose.
    Now he puts on another sock an says they win.

    Wow MR good one
    ——
    Proof that I’m not MR. I’ve always been positive about the Raiders. I’m much more of a kool-aid drinker than he is.

    *********************************************

    YOU ABSOLUTELY STATED YOU AND MR WERE THE SAME PERSON BEFORE YOU “RETIRED”
    ———
    That is not true. If you didn’t notice, someone was trolling my name. That was the reason for the retirement.

  358. VanHeathen Says:

    Post#356: Nice outlook teach.
    Hue has been giving an extraordinary set of obsticles to overcome in 1 season, loss of Al, JC and now DMac on the shelf for an unknown period…any 1 of these would be a challenge, but all 3 in succession is a tough draw…think he’s doin the best he can, and as angry as i was Sunday/Monday, I’ve got to move forward with MY team, the team i’ve spent my whole life supporting…
    If you aren’t “buying” what Hue’s selling, don’t know what to tell you, but I’M IN!
    Now let’s win Thursday Nite!

  359. qodrn Says:

    THE RAIDER PREDICTION BOARD
    Dedicated to the legacy of Al Davis
    Protected by the rally squirrel and Coliseum rodents

    First: Ghostraider (exact score)
    Second: Sullivan44
    Third: Pretty Rick
    Fourth: Sullivan44
    Fifth: Fingers
    Sixth: Zymurge
    Honorable Mention: LA for PAIN
    Seventh: Noone…at all.
    Eighth: La Milicia Negra

    antispy3 Raiders 27 Dischargers 24
    Blackmamba_20 Raiders #23 bolts #21
    Jesus Super Chokers 35 – Oakland 17 …
    Method To My Madness Raiders 24 Chargers 20
    R8RNAZ 31-28 oaktown
    Raider2DaHeart Chargers 38 Raiders 17
    Raiderjambo RAIDERS 28 sun deeego 24
    saladfingerz Raiders 9 49ers 17
    Thec07 Chargers 38 Raiders 17

  360. eastoaklandraider Says:

    Chuck B has to go he was garbage the first time around and he sucks now. An for all the hue bashers u guys dnt knw football offense is on the rise but we need new D coord. Nobody even gruden or madden never fixed our penalty problem.

  361. krunkphy Says:

    KRUNKPHY – “Al Davis” (Prod. by KRUNKPHY) WOW!!!! RAIDER NATION!!! BEST TRACK EVER!!!!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60-x4MFhiW0

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