Raiders notes, quotes
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Friday, November 11th, 2011 at 5:18 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Subbing for Steve Corkran . . .
Better late than never as I got off a plane not long before the Hue Jackson press briefing and then had to tend to print responsibilities. Some news, notes and observations from Thursday night and Friday:
– Quarterback Carson Palmer thinks Michael Bush helped soften up the San Diego defense for his deep passing. Palmer averaged nearly 15 yards per pass attempt, a staggering number.
“He wears down the safeties,’’ Palmer said. “They don’t want to get back in coverage. They don’t want to turn and run quite as quickly because they’re getting hit by a guy that’s 40 pounds, 50 pound heavier than they are.’’
– Perception changes radically in the NFL. The Raiders were the subject last week of a Profootballtalk.com story which alleged locker room issues and a borderline-out-of-control coach Hue Jackson.
“You lose and things get said, and I hear them, but I never felt it in the locker room,’’ Jackson said. “I know everyone else was concerned. I wasn’t.’’
Second-year linebacker Rolando McClain and left guard-turned center Stefen Wisniewski are getting the hang of how perception changes week to week in the NFL.
“We never worry about what everybody says,’’ McClain said. “We have a good sense of each other in this locker room and that’s all that matters. We believe in each other.’’
Said Wisniewski: “Early in the year, everyone was talking about how good we are. And then we suck after a couple of losses. And now we’re good again. It’s a heavily criticized job, but that’s the nature of the business.’’
– He won’t win or probably even contend, because offensive linemen never do, but it’s hard to imagine many rookies playing better than Wisniewski, who took over at center for Samson Satele and was conspicous with some downfield blocks on screens to Michael Bush as well as his usual solid play inside.
Great draft pick, and to think there were pundits who thought Wisniewski wasn’t physical enough and had essentially peaked out as a college player because he lacked the athleticism to get much better.
– Another unsung hero from Thursday night _ left guard Stephon Heyer. Heyer approached Jackson last week and told him he was up to the challenge if Wisniewski needed to slide over and play center. Jackson decided to go with the veteran over Joe Barksdale and Heyer was part of the Raiders’ line dominance.
– The Raiders dominated both sides of the line so clearly it’s amazing the Chargers were even in position to tie late in the game. Their physical dominance was such that the game shouldn’t have been close.
– Here are the top five performances in Raiders history in terms of yards from scrimmage:
The top five yards from scrimmage games in Raiders history:
Date/Player/tcb-yds/pc-yds/Yards/
10-20-63/Clem Daniels/27-200/1-56/256/
9-15-63/Clem Daniels/13-76/3-172/248/
12-22-63/Art Powell/0-0/10-247/247/
11-10-11/Michael Bush/30-157/3-85/242/
11-30-87/Bo Jackson/18-221/1-14/235/
Bush is in the last year of his contract and it will take some creative contract work to get him back in the fold next year. He’ll be much like Lamont Jordan and Michael Turner _ a complentary back that a team will spend big money on to make a lead back.
– Wide receiver Jacoby Ford said Friday he didn’t think his sprained ankle was serious and that it was a different kind of sprain than the one that’s kept Darren McFadden on the bench.
The Raiders have a 10-day break before their next game in Minnesota. They don’t practice Saturday or Sunday.
– Chalk up another strategy the Raiders have been reluctant to embrace in recent years _ having Stanford Routt follow Chargers wide receiver Vincent Jackson much of the night. Jackson was targeted seven times and caught one pass for 22 yards.
Jackson appeared to give a half-hearted effort on Philip Rivers’ interception to Matt Giordano in the end zone when the Chargers were attempting to tie the score. Tight end Antonio Gates, meanwhile, looks older and slower, much as recent published reports have suggested.
San Diego was missing some important players _ guard Kris Dielman, wide receiver Malcom Floyd, outside linebacker Shaun Phillips and defensive end Luis Castillo among them _ but this was not a top-of-the-line San Diego team by any means.
Having seen all the teams in the division now, the Raiders ought to be very disappointed if they don’t win the AFC West.
– Hue Jackson said he threw the challenge flag on Carson Palmer’s fumble in the third quarter even though he knew it wouldn’t be overturned and ruled an incomplete pass.
Jackson said he wanted to give the defense a rest and figured he’d take a shot and hope for a judgment call. If not, he was willing to trade the timeout for the break so the defnese could compose itself.
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November 11th, 2011 at 5:20 pm
I guess you don’t get a day off….Happy Veterans Day Jerry….
November 11th, 2011 at 5:20 pm
1st
November 11th, 2011 at 5:21 pm
…..or not
November 11th, 2011 at 5:27 pm
Hue Jack, you da man!!! Keep it up baby! Cant wait for the Vikings and AD!
November 11th, 2011 at 5:27 pm
Sorry, AP!
November 11th, 2011 at 5:30 pm
Impressive win! Commit to playing smash mouth football, then when you’ve softened them up hit them with the outstanding speed of our young receivers, now that’s RAIDER FOOTBALL. Kudos to the coaching staff, players and the travelling RAIDER NATION for making it a great night to be a RAIDER FAN! Now let’s keep the same commitment and gameplan, and winning and bullying will take care of itself. “JUST WIN BABY!”
November 11th, 2011 at 5:31 pm
Ist response here.
I don’t care what any reporters think or write as long as oakland get’s the W… Period.
Just Win Baby!!!!!
November 11th, 2011 at 5:40 pm
Feed the stud!
November 11th, 2011 at 5:47 pm
This was a great week. We needed this win. Pound the ball and everything else works itself out. Win until it hurts. Lets give up 2 first round picks for CP3. Ill giv up a 3rd if we win the SB!
November 11th, 2011 at 5:47 pm
alright thec, we’re set.
November 11th, 2011 at 5:50 pm
MUPdates: Unofficial – Week 10
D.WOW = 54pts!
W02: 19pts (4 first downs, 4 for plays over 20y, 6 for plays over 40y, 5 for TD)
W03: 10pts (3 first downs, 2 plays over 20y, 5 for TD)
W04: 6pts (1 first downs, 5 for TD)
W07: -2pts (-2 for drops)
W09: 1pts (-3 for drops, 4 for >20y)
W10: 20pts (-1 for drop, 2 for first downs, 6 for >20y, 3 for >40y, 10 for TD)
Wiz 2.0 “The Legacy” = 33pts
W01: 1pts (4 no sacks/pressure allowed, -3 for false start)
W02: 6pts (4 no S/P, 2 for Key Blocks)
W03: 8pts (4 no S/P, 4 Key Blocks)
W04: 8pts (4 no S/P, 4 Key Blocks)
W06: 8pts (4 no S/P, 4 Key Blocks)
W09: 2pts (2 for Key Blocks)
W10: 0pts (2 for Key Blocks, -2 for sack allowed)
DHB = 29pts
W01: 2pts (2 for first-downs)
W04: 8pts (4 for plays over 50y, 2 for plays over 20y, 4 for first downs, -2 for drops)
W05: 7pts (5 for TD, 2 for >20y, 1 first downs, -1 for drops)
W06: 6pts (2 for >20y, 4 for first downs)
W07: 6pts (2 for >20y, 4 for first downs)
Moss = 23pts
W03: 10pts (8 for sacks, 1 for pass broken up, 1 for QB pressure)
W04: 4pts (2 for TFL, 2 for QB pressure)
W05: 3pts (1 for QB pressure, 2 for tackles)
W06: 1pts (1 for QB pressure)
W07: 4pts (4 for TFL)
W09: -1pts (-1 for whiff)
W10: 2pts (2 for QB pressure)
Giordano = 22pts
W01: 8pts (4 for INT, 3 for FF, and 1 pass defense)
W02: -1pts (4 for tackles, -3 for BlownTD, -2 for whiffed tackles/coverage)
W03: 3pts (4 for tackles, -1 for whiffed tackle)
W04: 2pts (2 for Tackles)
W06: 5pts (4 for sack, 1 for QB pressure)
W09: 0pts (-1 for whiffs, 1 for pass def.)
W10: 5pts (1 for pass def., 4 for INT)
Barnes = 18pts
W01: 1pts (4 for no sacks/sressures allowed, -3 for false start)
W02: 4pts (4 no S/P)
W03: 4pts (4 no S/P)
W04: -3pts (-3 for pre-snap penalty)
W06: 4pts (4 no S/P)
W09: 4pts (4 no S/P)
W10: 4pts (4 no S/P)
Barksdale = 18pts
W03: 6pts (4 no S/P, 2 for Key Block)
W06: 4pts (4 no S/P)
W09: 4pts (4 no S//P)
W10: 4pts (4 no S/P)
Bryant = 17pts
W02: 1pts (1 Pressure QB)
W05: 5pts (4 for TFL, 1 QB pressure)
W06: 2pts (2 for tackles)
W07: 2pts (2 for TFL)
W10: 7pts (-1 for whiff, 2 for QB press, 2 for TFL, 4 for sack)
Tonga = 17pts
W05: 4pts (4 for key blocks)
W06: 3pts (2 for Key Blocks, 1 for first downs)
W07: 2pts (2 for Key Blocks)
W09: 4pts (4 for Key Blocks)
W10: 4pts (4 for Key Blocks)
Heyer = 16pts
W01; -8pts (-6 for false start, -2 for sacks/pressure allowed)
W02: 4pts (4 no S/P)
W03: 4pts (4 no S/P)
W06: 4pts (4 no S/P)
W09: 4pts (4 no S//P)
W10: 8pts (4 for Key blocks, 4 for no S/P)
DVD = 12pts
W05: 4pts (2 for pass def., 2 for tackles)
W06: 1pts (3 for pass def., -2 for whiffed tackles)
W07: 7pts (4 for INT, 2 for tackles, 2 for Pass Def, -1 for whiff)
Hagan = 10pts
W02: 6pts (4 first downs, 2 for plays over 20y)
W03: 1pts (1 first downs)
W04: 2pts (2 for first downs)
W05: 1pts (1 first down)
Mitchell = 8pts
W04: 4pts (4 for Sack)
W06: -1pts (-1 for whiff)
W07: 1pts (-1 for whiff, 2 for tackles)
W10: 3pts (-1 for whiff, 1 for pass def., 1 for QB press., 2 for tackles)
Chaz = 8pts
W02: 1pts (1 first down)
W05: 7pts (2 for >20y, 5 for TD)
Henderson = 7pts
W05: 2pts (2 for tackles)
W07: 2pts (2 for TFL)
W10: 3pts (2 for TFL, 1 for QB press.)
Scott = 4pts
W03: 1pts (1 for QB Pressure)
W05: 1pts (1 for QB pressure)
W07: 2pts (2 for TFL)
T.Jones = 3pts
W02: 1pts (1 first down)
W03: 3pts (3pts for Fumble Recovery)
W07: 1pts (1 for first downs)
W09: -3pts (-3 for PSP)
W10: 1pts (1 for first downs)
Gordon = 2pts
W03: 2pts (2 for Key Blocks)
B.Meyers = 2pts
W02: 2pts (2 first downs)
W03: -1pts (-1 dropped pass)
W10: 1pts (1 for first downs)
CJ37 = 1pts
W01: 3pts (2 for more than 4 tackles, and 1 pass defense)
W02: -2pts (4 for more than 6 tackles, 1 pass defense, -3 BlownTD, -4 Whiffs)
Ausberry = 1pts
W06: 1pts (1 for first downs)
Chekwa = 1pts
W02: -1pts (-1 whiff)
W03: 1pts (2 for pass def., 2 for tackles,-3 for TD allowed)
W04: 1pts (1 for pass def.)
Pryor = -3pts
W07: -3pts (-3 for pre-snap penalty)
Palmer = -5pts
W07: -7pts (2 for 200yg, 10 for TDs)
Boyd = -5pts
W02: -5pts (-3 BlownTD, -2 whiffs)
W03: 1pts (1 for pass def.)
W04: 2pts (2 for tackles)
W06: -3pts (-3 for blown TD)
Boller = -6pts
W06: 2pts (2 for first downs)
W07: -8pts (2 for >100yg, 2 for first downs, -12 for INTs)
November 11th, 2011 at 5:54 pm
Palmer MUP list isn’t updated for week 10. Not sure how he qualifies, but he’ll run away with the award.
November 11th, 2011 at 5:55 pm
**Palmer = -5pts
W07: -7pts (2 for 200yg, 10 for TDs)
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** I don’t know why this didn’t post correctly the first time.
November 11th, 2011 at 5:55 pm
This is the most Jekyl and Hyde team I can remember in recent history. By all markers we should be 7-2. That Denver game last week and the loss to Buffalo are going tondrive me nuts till next year. Hell, the Cardinals game and the Jags fame from Last year still bother me.
I saw alot of good things last night that I was not expecting after the trainwreck I witnessed at the hands of To
Tebow last week. Glad to admit that I was wrong about my prediction about last nights game, but I was basing it on how this team was trending, and not potential. This team has the potential to beat anybody in the league, they just have a serious issue with beating themselves. If we become a smart team, play to our potential and get a few guys healthy we will be a force to reckon with, especially with a bonafide franchise quarterback like Carson Palmer on our squad. Is this guy awesome or what? I can’t remember the last time the Raiders had a QB this good.
November 11th, 2011 at 5:55 pm
WTF?!
November 11th, 2011 at 5:57 pm
Special teams running a bit loose
November 11th, 2011 at 5:57 pm
Palmer = -5pts
W-07: -7pts (2 for 200yg, 10 for TDs)
November 11th, 2011 at 6:00 pm
lol. Ted’s short-circuiting.
November 11th, 2011 at 6:00 pm
Week Nine: -3pts (-6 for pre-snap penalties, -12 for INTs, 15 for TDs)
November 11th, 2011 at 6:01 pm
W10: 5pts (-4 for FUMBLE, -4 for INT, 3 for >200yg, 10 for TDs)
November 11th, 2011 at 6:02 pm
A few comments about Hue…
In the aftermath of a great win, it’s easy to overlook some deficiencies and errors.
Thought Hue made a few last night.
Most obvious was the challenge flag he threw. I thought he threw the flag prematurely or got bad info from the booth upstairs. Cost a time out, although Hue says he did this intentionally to help the defense.
Hue, once again, was extremely aggressive and chose to risk an incomplete pass very late in the game when handing off and running another 40 seconds off the clock seemed a more prudent course of action.
The fake punt. Might have been preferable just to line up and go for it. Given the circumstances, punting wasn’t really a good option and SD figured to be on alert for some sort of trickery. Also, if you’re going to throw, perhaps an easier completion might be considered.
Thought the offensive game plan was sound and worked very well, but there were some tactical errors that I mentioned above.
Hue has opted for the dagger strike pass, rather than running clock late, in 4 instances this year. It worked in Denver. Failed against the Jets, Houston and SD. He’s certainly consistent with his aggression.
We’ve also seen more fake FGs and punts in half a season under Hue than we saw in the previous decade.
Overall, I like the aggression, but there’s also a time and a place for everything. Sometimes a little conservatism is called for.
Don’t want to see the Raids go for a first down when they’re up by 14 with 4:30 left on the clock and in position to ICE the game with a 20 yard FG.
November 11th, 2011 at 6:03 pm
isn’t week 10 for Palmer 23 (2 TDs, 200 yards) minus 8 (1 fumble, 1 INT) for a total of 15?
November 11th, 2011 at 6:03 pm
Oops, that’s still not right…
November 11th, 2011 at 6:05 pm
TDs are only worth 5.
2×5=10, plus three for >200y
November 11th, 2011 at 6:06 pm
lol, lemme try this again…
Palmer = -1pts
W07: -7pts (2 for 300yg, 15 for TDs)
W10: 5pts (-4 for FUMBLE, -4 for INT, 3 for >200yg, 10 for TDs)
November 11th, 2011 at 6:07 pm
Dammit!
November 11th, 2011 at 6:07 pm
Palmer = -1pts
W07: -7pts (2 for 300yg, 15 for TDs)
W10: 5pts (-4 for FUMBLE, -4 for INT, 3 for >200yg, 10 for TDs)
November 11th, 2011 at 6:07 pm
Why wont it post week nine?
November 11th, 2011 at 6:08 pm
NINE -3pts (-6 for PSP, -12 for INTs, 4 for >300yg, 15 for TDs)
November 11th, 2011 at 6:09 pm
Have faith, Nation. With the speed and great playahs on this team, the sky is the limit. Just Win Baby!
November 11th, 2011 at 6:09 pm
whatevs – have a good weekend all!
November 11th, 2011 at 6:10 pm
see ya Ted, thanks for keeping track.
November 11th, 2011 at 6:19 pm
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November 11th, 2011 at 6:24 pm
You know, I’m happy for Hue, and for Carson, but to be quite honest, person who deserves the most praise is Alex Smith. Now that guy is a warrior. Never gave up. And now is one of the top qb’s in the league.
November 11th, 2011 at 6:26 pm
Just checked his stats, and Alex is kicking azz. Easily better than JC, and marginally better than Carson.
November 11th, 2011 at 6:31 pm
I’m heading over to the Badlands, on K st, here in Sac. If you have any leather chaps, and want to get your groove on, stop on by. I’ll be wearing my new SF hat, and a Raider leather skirt.
November 11th, 2011 at 6:32 pm
14.MikieG Says:
November 11th, 2011 at 5:55 pm
This is the most Jekyl and Hyde team I can remember in recent history. By all markers we should be 7-2. That Denver game last week and the loss to Buffalo are going tondrive me nuts till next year. Hell, the Cardinals game and the Jags fame from Last year still bother me.
I saw alot of good things last night that I was not expecting after the trainwreck I witnessed at the hands of To
Tebow last week. Glad to admit that I was wrong about my prediction about last nights game, but I was basing it on how this team was trending, and not potential. This team has the potential to beat anybody in the league, they just have a serious issue with beating themselves. If we become a smart team, play to our potential and get a few guys healthy we will be a force to reckon with, especially with a bonafide franchise quarterback like Carson Palmer on our squad. Is this guy awesome or what? I can’t remember the last time the Raiders had a QB this good.
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I agree Carson is a different kind of QB on our team “Serious Gun-slinging Monster”
November 11th, 2011 at 6:42 pm
“This team has the potential to beat anybody in the league, they just have a serious issue with beating themselves.”
I also think that at times there’s a real downturn in effort. You can’t tell me that having been humiliated last week by a poor team led by a quarterback everyone laughed at didn’t cause this team to play both mentally and physically harder this week.
Unfortunately, a good team, one that is determined to get better and reach the level of an elite team, gives great effort every play, every game. Yes, I know, some players, like D lineman who may not have a healthy back-up, have to pace themselves, particularly aging ones like Seymour, but too many times Raider teams, including this one, don’t give maximum effort and sometimes I think they don’t know we really can see that.
I do believe the players on the offensive side of the ball have been giving great effort most of the year; the D, however, is still manic–up one week, down the next, up one half, down the next.
If a guy is giving all he has but injuries are making him look slow or inefficient, I understand. Otherwise, I don’t. It’s a mindset.
November 11th, 2011 at 6:47 pm
Sullivan, I’m heading over to the Bolt on Boxwood St. It’s 3Some night. You should cum by.
November 11th, 2011 at 6:50 pm
Al’s Episode of a football like is on NFL Network in 10 minutes…
November 11th, 2011 at 6:57 pm
So a Charger fan stabs a Raiders fan and it’s hush hush.? If it were the other way around the media would be having a field day with it.
November 11th, 2011 at 6:57 pm
9.8
November 11th, 2011 at 7:38 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Strikes Back Says:
November 11th, 2011 at 6:47 pm
Sullivan, I’m heading over to the Bolt on Boxwood St. It’s 3Some night. You should cum by.
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November 11th, 2011 at 7:40 pm
Big Ted **** off with that crap.
Fantasy football is for shut ins and the ****less.
November 11th, 2011 at 7:40 pm
Kudos to the O line.
November 11th, 2011 at 7:42 pm
Honestly BigTed, nobody gives a flying f***111
November 11th, 2011 at 7:52 pm
[..] Raiders fckng awesome [..] mopped the field with some San Diego ass [..] Moore is a stud [..] big game from Wimbley, who ate Rivers for lunch, excuse me, I meant dinner [..] meanwhile, 49ers still suck ass and will lose Sunday because they are ass suckers and will show their true colors [..]
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82405303/article/raiderschargers-highest-rated-opener-for-thursday-night-football?module=HP11_headline_stack
November 11th, 2011 at 8:00 pm
“Hue, once again, was extremely aggressive and chose to risk an incomplete pass very late in the game when handing off and running another 40 seconds off the clock seemed a more prudent course of action.
The fake punt. Might have been preferable just to line up and go for it. Given the circumstances, punting wasn’t really a good option and SD figured to be on alert for some sort of trickery. Also, if you’re going to throw, perhaps an easier completion might be considered.
Thought the offensive game plan was sound and worked very well, but there were some tactical errors that I mentioned above.
Hue has opted for the dagger strike pass, rather than running clock late, in 4 instances this year. It worked in Denver. Failed against the Jets, Houston and SD. He’s certainly consistent with his aggression.”
I had these exact thoughts last night why are we throwing for the end zone when we should be handing the ball off milking the clock…this happened in Buffalo too we threw that deep pass to Moore luckily we scored but instead of milking the clock there we ended up leaving Buffalo with enough time to score before the game ended.
November 11th, 2011 at 8:08 pm
Whatever its worth, Our high rankings for the season are #2 for both Rushing and our Offensive line!
November 11th, 2011 at 8:09 pm
God bless Hue Jackson and Al Davis for making the Raiders a winning team again.
November 11th, 2011 at 8:13 pm
If the Raiders don’t make it into post season, Al Davis is gonna pull some devine intervention shiz.
November 11th, 2011 at 8:17 pm
“You lose and things get said, and I hear them, but I never felt it in the locker room,’’ Jackson said. “I know everyone else was concerned. I wasn’t.’’
….
More Bullsh!t from Hue…
He said in his post game speech to players that he went to the leaders and vets on the team and they assured him they had his back.
If he wasn’t worried he wouldn’t have asked. He f’d up the Denver game and the players knew it. He went to the vets, admitted it, and the players got his back and played hard for him in the SD game.
It was nice to see effort again after the debacle against Denver. Still not sure what kind of insanity took place during halftime of that game, but it seems to be blowing over.
Hue got humbled this last few weeks and it seems to have got his attention.
November 11th, 2011 at 8:19 pm
34.Sullivan44(Tebowing…) Says:
November 11th, 2011 at 6:24 pm
You know, I’m happy for Hue, and for Carson, but to be quite honest, person who deserves the most praise is Alex Smith. Now that guy is a warrior. Never gave up. And now is one of the top qb’s in the league.
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Only in your mind, wise guy, only in your mind!
November 11th, 2011 at 8:22 pm
I just got on here. The NFL Network show on Al was very good! Thank goodness Al chose Hue to be his last Head Coach!
November 11th, 2011 at 8:23 pm
Just watched “A Football Life” and its easy to see how Hue, after spending so much time with AD,would get to feeling so cocky. Just Win Baby.
November 11th, 2011 at 8:46 pm
I’ve seen the trend all season. When the Raiders hit the QB, they are 5-0. When they don’t, they are 0-4.
November 11th, 2011 at 8:50 pm
If you have a kindly message, some caring words to say,
Don’t forget it, share it today.
The words that go unspoken, the letters never sent,
Are like unburned candles, there light and warmth unspent?
There’s always a heart waiting just to hear from you,
And your words have the power to make the rays shine through.
Sometimes I am sure you thought I was confused, lost without a clue,
From all of the faces I’d shown to you.
And I am sure all of your days you must rue,
All of the changes that I’d put you all through.
It must have been hard to understand that all four seasons lied within my hand,
A tempest that no one could tame or command.
We all knew it well,
That I was your heaven and I was your hell.
I was the cold breath of winter, the daisies in the spring,
The fire in your heart, an angel with soft wings.
But my decisions must have gotten old,
I appeared so very heartless and so very cold.
I am sure you would have been relieved, if I could only reveal,
That my heart could, truly love and feel.
When I was alone, I would often cry. I thought about the fans of the Nation, and I felt so bad.
And I tried over and over to show everyone that you were the best thing I’ve ever had.
I wish I could have told you how much I did care,
And explain how good it felt to know that the fans were there.
And more than anything, I wish I could have been,
Everything you ever wanted of me.
Remember when I was going to extremes that no matter how distant I would seem,
The Raiders, always were my greatest dream.
So send all your loved ones a kind message, there’s never a reason to wait.
As for me, you don’t have to express your heart, my loyal fans, it’s now too late.
When you think of a person and what he has done in his life, was that person kind, generous, loyal, caring, devoted, daring, tactical, loving, persuasive, genuine and fair, you can look back and consider those qualities or inequalities that they achieved or didn’t as being a testament or legacy of what an individual stood for. What his life meant. Was there a meaning or goodness to his life. Was that life purposeful in someway. Did it bring hope and happiness to others by benevolence or courage. Did that life reach into peoples souls and produce things that they themselves may not have believed, capable of. All of these questions and so many more can be considered a part of someones legacy. What did they leave before leaving us. I think the greatest complement one can give is that they gave more than they ever asked for. I have only known two individuals in my lifetime that I can say and answer unequivocally yes too. I have lost both this year. So, we have the cherished memories of those we have lost. The smile and that quest and thirst for life and how to make it better for others is no longer. Can any of us say we gave more than we ever asked for. I can’t answer that question and speak of myself and say yes I did.
But if you have an inspiration or someone who has reached into your soul and delivered that quality or aspiration inside of you to be better, maybe we can answer that affirmatively before we are gone from life. Mr. Antol and Mr. Davis provided that impetus and one can only aspire to be, in our lives, what they were to me……Love always…..AP77
November 11th, 2011 at 9:30 pm
??
November 11th, 2011 at 9:30 pm
the raiders are too inconsistent
November 11th, 2011 at 9:43 pm
53,This is a RAIDER blog,take youre niner crap to a niner blog,and dont come back,mrs
November 11th, 2011 at 9:49 pm
NFLN’s “tribute” to Al? **** off.
November 11th, 2011 at 9:53 pm
Reminds me of the gloss over smear job that History channel Vietnam war in HD bullsh*t.
Propaganda job. Never mentioned the Gulf of Tonkin attack that started the war NEVER happened.
Made it look like media sunk a winning war effort and misled the people.
Truth was people knew their Gov was corrupt and in cahoots with Big business.
Sound familiar?
November 11th, 2011 at 9:57 pm
End of this Charger game.
What a hell of a month…Mr Davis’s death, Campbell, down, DMC down, Carson on board.
Holy jah heebus.
Raider familia…
November 11th, 2011 at 10:07 pm
Wide receiver Jacoby Ford said Friday he didn’t think his sprained ankle was serious and that it was a different kind of sprain than the one that’s kept Darren McFadden on the bench.
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Yep, that’s because DMAC has Turf Toe. I was at the KC game when DMAC left the game and went to the locker room. He was walking just fine. He came back out and did some back and forth jogging about 5 or so yards each way. Then decided not to re-enter the game. If the foot hurt you get it wrapped on the sideline and go back in. You go in the locker room to wrap a toe so nobody sees what the trainer is doing.
Hate to say, but we won’t see DMAC until end of season for a playoff push. Turf Toe has to heal by resting it.
November 11th, 2011 at 10:26 pm
We have finally gotten our identity back.
This offense is built to have a dominant run game that opens up the passing attack. Its what we do well. before Campbell got hurt, we ran the ball, forcing the defense to commit to stopping the run. This forces dlinemen’s first step to be protecting against the run, thereby slowing down their pass rush. It keeps safeties looking in longer, opening up single coverage. It getting opposing teams putting an extra man in the box. When those things happen, we ask our qb to take advantage.
Boller couldn’t do it. Campbell did an ok job of it. Palmer takes it to another level.
However, after getting Palmer, Hue jack got too excited with his new toys. He didn’t know if he wanted to open up the passing game to better utilize his passing weapons, or keep the old philosophy. The lack of identity hurt our offense and the team.
Now, he’s gone back to what works. Palmer can be lethal going up against defenses selling out to stop the run. We saw that yesterday. 4/4 on throws over 35 yards. the screens, the efficiency. Running the ball, and having him pick defenses apart when they sell out too much is going to be damn near impossible to stop.
the only thing he needs to get better at is feeling that backside pressure. And i’m sure rust has a lot to do with it. The offense has got its mojo back!
November 11th, 2011 at 10:39 pm
Last night the Raiders looked like a mighty damn good fcking football team, on both sides of the fcking ball. Fck yeah! Fvck the chargers too. Look out minnysota, you ass wipes are next.
Oaktown 48
Vukings 10
November 11th, 2011 at 10:40 pm
Moore should be playing at the next level, but the NFL will have to do for now.
November 11th, 2011 at 11:10 pm
I will say this and I mean it. The Raiders may want to think about resigning Bush to be the feature back and trading DMac. Now I know DMac is a monster but can he stay healthy for more than 10 games a year? Bush is a free agent and I will hate to see him go. Can we keep Bush with him knowing when Dmac is healthy, his playing time will be cut? The man just knows how to run the rock. He is the big bruiser capable of carrying the load for 16 games plus the playoffs. I have always like Bush and he seems to neve dissapoint when called upon. Even when he is stopped at the LOS, he still pushes for a few yards. Any thoughts?
November 11th, 2011 at 11:15 pm
Interesting thought JMeds. McFadden is an unreal talent, tough to let that walk. He’s under contract as well.
DMcF makes DCs think of nothing else for 7 days before a game.
November 11th, 2011 at 11:15 pm
I love being poster no.69. Where’s my wife?
November 11th, 2011 at 11:20 pm
I love DMac, no doubts there. But is he capable of staying healthy for even 14 games? If Dmac understands his health is vital to the teams further success, would he be willing to take a lesser role but more big play potential given his versatility?
November 11th, 2011 at 11:22 pm
Palmer brings another dimension unseen in a long time for the Raiders. With the speed on the outside and his accuracy on the deep ball, teams can no longer load the box with 8 guys cause we will beat them deep more often than not. Like I said I love McFadden, but we need to figure out how to keep Bush around. He is an unsung hero in my book.
November 11th, 2011 at 11:32 pm
64. Unsubstantiated rumor mongering.
November 11th, 2011 at 11:33 pm
70.JLofty Says:
November 11th, 2011 at 11:15 pm
I love being poster no.69. Where’s my wife?
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Under the neighbor
November 11th, 2011 at 11:38 pm
Palmer was most impressive making reads and audibles. Might have been partially responsible for Wizniewski’s success with blocking schemes and blitz pick ups.
November 11th, 2011 at 11:57 pm
I hope the DMAC injury IS NOT turf toe. I don’t think Bush can continue running 30 times a game. He was fresh for the SD game so he could do it, but running it that many times and taking that many hits every week will definitely take it’s toll.
November 12th, 2011 at 12:29 am
whats goin on Says:
November 11th, 2011 at 10:40 pm
Moore should be playing at the next level, but the NFL will have to do for now.
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INSTACLASSIC!!! LMFAO!!
NICKNAME ALERT:
Denarius “gimme more PT if you want” Moore-Touchdowns.
November 12th, 2011 at 2:39 am
Moore Bush Please!
a few point on last nights game..
1) Moore is a fool in the return game, he really need som education on when to return, when make a fair catch or when to let the ball bounce
2) most important player of the game Curry! yeah I do mean that!
3) Looked like the D-line played a lot like Al would have wanted to play, four man rush..
4) Jarome Boyd, stupidest player ever, eff up a 4th down
5) Palmer is really going to be the guy we wished for
6) DHB isnt suddently bad again, I think Chemistry is a huge thing. he was finally starting to gel with JC, now he has to do it all over with CP.. I think in 2-3 games time he’ll be up par to how he was when he was best with JC
7) It was HUGE that we finally had a game with less than 50yds penalties! we had 7 for 45yds, and 20 of those were on two following snaps..
9) Philip Rivers look like Oliver Queen from ‘Smallville’
November 12th, 2011 at 2:53 am
fåkking graphic smileys…
November 12th, 2011 at 3:29 am
MistaBrown Says:
November 10th, 2011 at 11:16 pm
LMN, you retarded monkey the ref said it was before the ball was snapped. I didnt say Boyd didnt handle him Im telling you what the ref said!
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hey miss brown, myabe you should go to the doctor and get them to take a ook at you freakin ears..
the ref said “before the ball was PUNTED” as in before Scifres foot hits the ball..
patheitic angry man..
November 12th, 2011 at 5:43 am
Danes are funny when they talk about sports that require hands, especially when they are drunk. Only thing funnier is when they pretend to have a job.
November 12th, 2011 at 6:21 am
Great Team win
November 12th, 2011 at 6:45 am
LMN, you are right. Why is Moore returning punts???
He is a great wide receiver, but tall lanky guys don’t make good punt returners. Short shifty guys are better. The only thing I can assume is that Tawain Jones can’t catch.
November 12th, 2011 at 7:16 am
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/At-least-the-Chargers-still-have-the-support-of-?urn=nfl-wp11667
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Mario Lopez is a big Charger fan. Sounds about right.
November 12th, 2011 at 7:40 am
21 returns for an 8.6 average, one fumble. He is rated #21 but half the guys in front of him have only a few returns. Lots of WRs returning punts. Have to have great hands and big brass balls.
I bet TJ is still too skitterish to handle PR and Moore is the best we have.
http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=1&statisticPositionCategory=PUNT_RETURNER&conference=0011&season=2011&seasonType=REG
November 12th, 2011 at 8:14 am
67.whats goin on Says:
November 11th, 2011 at 10:40 pm
Moore should be playing at the next level, but the NFL will have to do for now.
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I vote this comment of the month! There are some good comments about Kell’s old lady and MR’s mom. But football related quotes. This has my vote.
November 12th, 2011 at 8:20 am
Kind of surprised that Marcus Allen is not in that Top 5 for single game all purpose yardage. Probably number 6… lol
November 12th, 2011 at 8:27 am
There has to be some money here to keep Bush around.
2011 Salary and Cap Number
Carson Palmer QB $11,500,000 $16,250,000
Richard Seymour DT $15,000,000 $15,000,000
Stanford Routt CB $10,000,000 $10,000,000
Tommy Kelly DE $5,500,000 $8,392,856
Darren McFadden RB $7,055,000 $8,121,667
Shane Lechler P $3,200,000 $5,050,000
Rolando McClain LB $405,000 $5,005,000
Jason Campbell QB $4,500,000 $4,500,000
Aaron Curry LB $3,725,000 $3,725,000
John Henderson DT $2,500,000 $3,250,000
Michael Bush RB $2,610,000 $2,610,000
Sebastian Janikowski K $2,600,000 $2,600,000
Hiram Eugene S $2,000,000 $2,000,000
Stephon Heyer T $1,700,000 $1,700,000
Darius Heyward-Bey WR $1,000,000 $1,500,000
Jarvis Moss DE $1,250,000 $1,250,000
Kyle Boller QB $1,250,000 $1,250,000
Lamarr Houston DT $405,000 $1,031,250
T.J. Houshmanzadeh WR $910,000 $910,000
Quentin Groves DE $555,000 $893,750
Mike Mitchell S $480,000 $880,000
Rock Cartwright RB $800,000 $800,000
Matt Shaughnessy DE $480,000 $693,062
Tyvon Branch CB $555,000 $683,956
Jared Veldheer C $405,000 $628,750
Louis Murphy WR $480,000 $592,000
Trevor Scott DE $555,000 $583,750
Chaz Schilens WR $555,000 $567,836
Bruce Campbell T $405,000 $535,500
Jacoby Ford WR $405,000 $532,500
Brandon Myers TE $480,000 $502,500
Travis Goethel LB $405,000 $430,750
Jeremy Ware CB $405,000 $420,500
Denarius Moore WR $375,000 $375,000
Total $84,450,000 $103,265,627
November 12th, 2011 at 8:34 am
Call me crazy bit Moore reminds me of Cliff Branch with his smoothness, speed and hands.
Palmer reminds me of Jim Plunkett and Reece reminds me of Kenny King.
November 12th, 2011 at 8:47 am
There has to be some money here to keep Bush around.
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Yup, cut Boller’s salary in half.
November 12th, 2011 at 8:48 am
J Campbell is gone Next season..take that money off the rolle
November 12th, 2011 at 8:51 am
Tommy kelly needs to be replaced or traded. .. I think that dude is overpayed…
November 12th, 2011 at 8:51 am
I thought Palmers post game interview was good. I think he realizes how good all the weapons are on offence and just how far they can go. He made a point to jump in a talk about how good the offensive line is while Irvin was talking about all the weapons he has at his disposal. Smart!
We struck a good balance Thursday night of run and pass. But Palmer makes plays I don’t see Campbell making. I don’t know that we make the Super Bowl with the defense the way it is. But this offence is going to be nuts going forward.
November 12th, 2011 at 8:52 am
Think Camp would stay as a back up?
November 12th, 2011 at 8:54 am
Routt . Huff. boss… even wimbley. .. all need to have their salary shaved… I can’t believe Hiram Eugene was making that much..
November 12th, 2011 at 8:55 am
No way Jason Campbell remains… there’s atleast 7 teams that would want him as their starting qb..
November 12th, 2011 at 8:57 am
Think Bush stays?
November 12th, 2011 at 8:58 am
Seattle. . Denver…Miami. well maybe not 7 but atleast three..lol
November 12th, 2011 at 9:00 am
Don… I hope he stays but he’s another Guy that wants to be the man on his team… we have good players leaving and we get nothing in return. We have to start trading these players if we don’t plan on keeping them..
November 12th, 2011 at 9:00 am
Az,,Kc,,Ind
November 12th, 2011 at 9:02 am
I wonder if he stays for a good pay day. He makes as much as Jano. And if we are on our way to make a Super Bowl run that might tip the scale. I hope!
November 12th, 2011 at 9:02 am
I would rather keep dmac. .. but he’s always getting hurt… someone suggested we resign bush and trade dmac. .bush and Taiwan. .our. es backfield..
November 12th, 2011 at 9:04 am
ghostraiders Says:
November 12th, 2011 at 8:58 am
Seattle. . Denver…Miami. well maybe not 7 but atleast three..lol
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Don’t rule out Washington.
November 12th, 2011 at 9:05 am
I think we have to keep both. Dmac will never make a entire season. But when he does play he is a diffrence maker.
November 12th, 2011 at 9:10 am
I like Bush, I hope we can keep him. There is just something about him that makes me feel like he wouldn’t be as dominant on another team as a starter. Sure, he would do ok. But he doesn’t have the speed to be an all out star. There are also times when he seems just to takes plays off and fall into the hole. And that Charger team he abused is absolutely horrible vs. the run. I can only imagine what DMAC would have done to them.
November 12th, 2011 at 9:12 am
I don’t think jc will ever go back to Washington. …They got rid of him… lost confidence in him..
November 12th, 2011 at 9:13 am
Morilla.. I agree… that offensive line is the reason both he and dmac were/ are having career years.
November 12th, 2011 at 9:16 am
If I were Ted Thompson I’d be going hard after Michael Bush, can you imagine the Packers with Bush as their starting RB?.
They have James Starks but he doesn’t seem like the answer for them, more of a # 2 back at this point and Ryan Grant is done.
As for the Raiders, if Bush won’t re-sign here, I’d go for a big, bruising back with one of our few picks in the Draft, I don’t think any decent vet will come here to split back up duites with Taiwan Jones.
November 12th, 2011 at 9:22 am
I really expected more from Taiwan by now.. I thought when dmac got injured. .. he would step up..
November 12th, 2011 at 9:24 am
I think having a burner/stud back + a bruiser is the way to go in the NFL. (and DMAC could also be called a bruiser in his own right).
But is Bush willing to accept that role? Hopefully he can and padding his bank account might do the trick.
November 12th, 2011 at 9:26 am
We need more T Jones thru the a and b gaps to see if he can make that one cut and go. If they had hit him with some of those screen Bush got he would have been gone.
November 12th, 2011 at 9:27 am
So how long before D Moore puts “Diecisiete” on the back of his jersey?
November 12th, 2011 at 9:28 am
Yeah, I get nervous when Hue sends Jones up he middle, I feel like he is going to get flattened. But he actually does pretty well. Seems like he has no fear and just wants to go.
November 12th, 2011 at 9:28 am
“If they had hit him (Taiwan) with some of those screen Bush got he would have been gone.”
True.
November 12th, 2011 at 9:30 am
Hue said T Jones is still earning his trust. Maybe he make a lot of mistakes in practice.
November 12th, 2011 at 9:30 am
Would liked to see Taiwan get more touchs, especially in the screen game, but he needs to pay more attention to the way he holds the ball as does Ford. Looked like it was really hanging out there a few times.
November 12th, 2011 at 9:33 am
Then again the D would be looking for the screen with TJ in there. He’s not much of a blocker.
November 12th, 2011 at 9:37 am
ghostraiders Says:
November 12th, 2011 at 8:51 am
Tommy kelly needs to be replaced or traded. .. I think that dude is overpayed…
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Of course, we won’t blame Al for that. We’ll only credit him for the good.
November 12th, 2011 at 9:38 am
Bush is a weird guy, he looks soft around the waist, almost like he’s out of shape, I was affraid he would run out of gas but he kept going and Taiwan looks like a CB out there but he plays at full-speed, no fear of contact.
November 12th, 2011 at 9:39 am
I think its about a 70% Chance that bush will leave… but I hope these guys could figure out that its not all greener pastures elsewhere. .. namdi..gallery… z Miller..all stink now..they chased the money and I guess that’s good for them… but they are not as good as they thought..
November 12th, 2011 at 9:41 am
I watched Hues post game press conferences and yesterday’s and noticed a dramatic change in his demeanor. He seems a little more grounded and reserved. I don’t know if someone got in his ear or he is reading his own clippings, either way I like this Hue better than the previous versions.
November 12th, 2011 at 9:42 am
Sully. .. your so dumb man..the vast majority of the players on the team are very good… why do you want to focus on who’s fault it is… al davis is gone and you still have issues with him.. wtf is wrong with you… your obsessed. .
November 12th, 2011 at 9:42 am
by Eric Gilmore – Raiders fans showed in San Diego
A large contingent of Raider fans attended Thursday night’s game at San Diego, and QB Carson Palmer said the team fed off that energy. “Anytime you go to a game and it seems like you have more fans there than they do at their home stadium, it gives you a little extra energy. We were feeding off our own fans in an away stadium, and we were playing for a lot.”
November 12th, 2011 at 9:43 am
Jones got more playing time this week. He may be a bigger part of the game plan next week. He maybe struggling with the new protections and they put in for Palmer.
November 12th, 2011 at 9:44 am
GhostRaider,
And Al Davis didn’t chase money? Mark and Carol Davis don’t chase money? Amy Trask doesn’t chase money?
November 12th, 2011 at 9:44 am
GhostRaider, whose fault is it that Tommy Kelly is overpaid? You brought up his salary.
November 12th, 2011 at 9:45 am
There you go Ghost. I lost my voice rooting for CP.
November 12th, 2011 at 9:46 am
Ghost
Dont feed the troll.
November 12th, 2011 at 9:47 am
Sullivan44 Says:
November 12th, 2011 at 9:44 am
GhostRaider, whose fault is it that Tommy Kelly is overpaid? You brought up his salary.
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It’s his own fault.
November 12th, 2011 at 9:48 am
Hue… you were against the trade also.. am I right??… I know you were not as bad as misty. . Debo. .and Jesus.. but truthfully. . You hated the trade and probably still do..
November 12th, 2011 at 9:48 am
HueKnows, so, basically, you’re saying that Tommy Kelly signed himself to the team? Tommy Kelly is not only a player for the Raiders, he’s the owner of the team, as well? He’s the one who decides which contracts the players get? If it’s his fault that he’s overpaid, then he must be the owner of the Oakland Raiders, too. I’ll check the team’s website. I’ve never heard anything of it. Seems to me Al Davis was owner/GM of the Raiders when Kelly was acquired.
November 12th, 2011 at 9:49 am
Still no coverage of thug Charger fan stabbing a Raider fan. Go figure
November 12th, 2011 at 9:49 am
Don’t forget Bush is not a young kid, he’ll be 28 by next year’s training camp, he doesn’t have a lot of mileage on him but I’m not sure he can carry the load for a full season with another team, specially if they don’t have an O-Line like ours and another decent back to spell him.
But it’s his last chance for a big pay day, he has to go for it, he’s played on a 4th round rookie contract so he can’t have a lot of money, I wish we could reward him for what he’s done for us and keep him around.
November 12th, 2011 at 9:50 am
I just thought a better deal could have been made. Still do.
November 12th, 2011 at 9:50 am
I’m glad to hear you rooted for Palmer.. he’s going to be here for a while… I hope its 1st round picks we fork over..
November 12th, 2011 at 9:51 am
Sully what Im saying is if he’d played better he’d be worth it. Simple.
November 12th, 2011 at 9:51 am
morilla Says:
November 12th, 2011 at 9:49 am
Still no coverage of thug Charger fan stabbing a Raider fan. Go figure
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While Nebraska and PSU players were praying, PSU fans were yelling, “Bullschit, bullschit”, but ESPN drowned it out. No doubt the sports media protects certain teams and fan bases, while vilifying others.
November 12th, 2011 at 9:51 am
Hueknows.. and where would we be now.. without Palmer.. ?? You wanted boller?? Seriously? ?
November 12th, 2011 at 9:53 am
Hue Knows, so, let me get this straight. A player acquisition only involves the player? Who signed Tommy Kelly? There has to be two signatures on his contract. His, and someone else’s. Who’s the other signature on the contract? And, how can he NOT be at fault, as well? Explain that to me, Hue Knows. I’ll bet it’s interesting.
November 12th, 2011 at 9:56 am
I didn’t like the Palmer deal. But took a wait and see attitude. So far so good. It could payoff huge.
Farve showed everyone the last thing to go is the mind and the arm strength. If our young line can keep him upright he could play for us for awhile.
November 12th, 2011 at 9:57 am
Jmeds Says:
November 11th, 2011 at 11:10 pm
I will say this and I mean it. The Raiders may want to think about resigning Bush to be the feature back and trading DMac. Now I know DMac is a monster but can he stay healthy for more than 10 games a year? Bush is a free agent and I will hate to see him go. Can we keep Bush with him knowing when Dmac is healthy, his playing time will be cut? The man just knows how to run the rock. He is the big bruiser capable of carrying the load for 16 games plus the playoffs. I have always like Bush and he seems to neve dissapoint when called upon. Even when he is stopped at the LOS, he still pushes for a few yards. Any thoughts?
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I agree. Time to build up Taiwan Jones and think of resigning Bush and trading DMC.
November 12th, 2011 at 9:57 am
I can’t believe there are still people questioning the Palmer trade after Thursday.
November 12th, 2011 at 9:57 am
Ghost: We would suck with Boller. But I believe that if Hue wasn’t f’in around he could have coached Boller up to beat KC and Den… SD probably not.. So yes thankyou.CP you made my weekend
November 12th, 2011 at 9:58 am
Hue Knows,
How would you recommend Hue “coach Boller up” to beat KC and Denver? Have any examples?
November 12th, 2011 at 9:59 am
First and foremost, the Raiders need to absolutely resign Bush! Two backs are needed in this league and they need to sign him to a 3-4 year deal.
Then IF need be….they can use Bush as trade bait depending on the situation!
Resigning Bush is a must!
T Jones isn’t ready to be the full time backup. Plus his skills are too similar to DMC. The Raiders need a pounding big back who is atheltic like Bush.
They won’t be able to draft a back like Bush in the 2012 draft!
It was nice to see T Jones get some significant touches. That kid needs to be fed as a change of pace to Bush and keep defenses off balance. He needs to get touches for him to get better.
Huey and Saunders still need to run more damn screens for the kid.
He can break one at anytime on a screen, get two blockers in front of him and he is gone!
Once again….Chuck B and the DEFENSE, need to improve and play good each week, for this team to win the freakin division! Limit the penalties!
November 12th, 2011 at 9:59 am
Sullivan44 Says:
November 12th, 2011 at 9:53 am
Hue Knows, so, let me get this straight. A player acquisition only involves the player? Who signed Tommy Kelly? There has to be two signatures on his contract. His, and someone else’s. Who’s the other signature on the contract? And, how can he NOT be at fault, as well? Explain that to me, Hue Knows. I’ll bet it’s interesting.
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If I hire you to shut the F up and you don’t is it my fault?
November 12th, 2011 at 10:01 am
Sullivan44 Says:
November 12th, 2011 at 9:58 am
Hue Knows,
How would you recommend Hue “coach Boller up” to beat KC and Denver? Have any examples?
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Instead of doing press conferences and radio interviews, do some coaching.
November 12th, 2011 at 10:01 am
146.
LOL
November 12th, 2011 at 10:01 am
If Boller was the QB ahead of Carson. This team wouldn’t have a chance in hell at winning the division!
Huey getting Carson gives this team a fighting chance to win the division….PERIOD….and END OF STORY and lousy debate.
November 12th, 2011 at 10:03 am
DKnight007 Says:
November 12th, 2011 at 10:01 am
If Boller was the QB ahead of Carson. This team wouldn’t have a chance in hell at winning the division!
Huey getting Carson gives this team a fighting chance to win the division….PERIOD….and END OF STORY and lousy debate.
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There is no debate. I just said thank you CP. Its good to be a Raider fan in SD. So once again for EVERYONE to hear. THANK YOU CARSON PALMER.
November 12th, 2011 at 10:04 am
Palmer gives us a chance to win in the playoffs. If our D was playing consistant we could win it all.
November 12th, 2011 at 10:05 am
Hue, you can get defensive all you want to.
It’s not my fault your logic makes no sense in terms of business contracts whatsoever.
Let me see if I can try to explain it to you.
Every contract has two signatures.
OK?
You with me so far?
One signature is management, that’s Al Davis.
The other is the player…that’s Tommy Kelly.
Al Davis was the one who made the decision to sign Tommy Kelly, and to OVERPAY him.
Al Davis is the one paying Tommy Kelly.
Al Davis was warned that Tommy Kelly just might not be worth the money he was signing him for.
The media had a field day with it, basically, the sports world was in shock, because everyone knew Tommy Kelly was not worth that contract.
At the time, it was actually the most lucrative defensive lineman contract in NFL history, for a guy who’d accomplished NOTHING!
It was AL DAVIS who made the decision to sign him to this bloated contract, therefore, it is the fault of Al Davis that we have an overpaid player on this team that was signed on his watch, as Tommy Kelly was.
Do you still not get it?
Let me know if you still need help with this, HueKnows. Hue Knows everything except business contracts, evidently.
November 12th, 2011 at 10:05 am
Agreed DMN.
November 12th, 2011 at 10:06 am
HueKnows,
Still waiting on your examples as to how Hue Jackson could “coach up” Boller to be a good QB.
Should Hue teach him how to throw a football?
November 12th, 2011 at 10:09 am
Gotta run, HueKnows. I can’t wait to check back later and read your examples as to how Hue Jackson could “coach up” a lousy QB and make him a good QB. Should be good. Wonder if Hue will teach him what a cover 2 defense is. Might want to bring Campbell to that clinic, too. In the meantime, glad we have a real QB that will be working with the starting team. Later.
November 12th, 2011 at 10:11 am
I’m glad your on board.. I don’t give a crap about Palmer haters… sitting by idly and seeing the season crumble in the year al davis passes away would have been a travesty. .. atleast I know Palmer is good enough to get us their.. I admit… jc might be an OK qb.. but no way can he get this team to a Superbowl. ..
November 12th, 2011 at 10:13 am
Wait a second guys, just read an article that said Hue’s game plan was very heavy pass oriented. the run success altered it. If Hue, i am so full of myself, Jackson does not smarten up and keep this team a run oriented offense we will see 3 things. 1. CP will have dead-are syndrome which most quarterbacks go thru in training camp, a ton of game altering INTs, and a 3rd place finish in the WEST.
This is exactly how Norv Turner ruined the Chargers, although I am ecstatic about that. If this would happen to the Raiders just when we were building a Bully, i would be pissed. Remember a Bully smashes the ball down a defenses throat, not passes over it.
November 12th, 2011 at 10:18 am
The SD game was a blueprint on how to run the team…..
Hue has a lot of confidence in Palmer.. our best offensive weapon is out…. he needs to balance the offense… hopefully dmac is back for Minnesota game… Palmer should continue improving…
November 12th, 2011 at 10:21 am
Just feed the stud Hue.
November 12th, 2011 at 10:26 am
I don’t see the panic if DMAC misses more time.
The Raiders are fully capable of winning games decisively with Michael Bush and Carson Palmer
November 12th, 2011 at 10:26 am
Were not going to be forking over $$ for a first round pick next couple of yrs… maybe we can use that money to keep bush….. next yr.. this team should be better Than this year… if we make the playoffs this year.. I would say it was a good yr. .
November 12th, 2011 at 10:28 am
Snb. . That’s what I thought before the bronco game.
.too.. if healthy I want dmac back ASAP..
November 12th, 2011 at 10:36 am
161 Good post. Give the money to keep guys we know are good. We have a really young team. Pay the proven guys. The teams recent late round draft picks give them the flexibility to do that.
November 12th, 2011 at 10:41 am
Although the new CBA changes things a bit
November 12th, 2011 at 10:45 am
It’s nice to see a QB who read defenses and make audibles at the line of scrimmage when necessary.
Carson is the best overall QB
November 12th, 2011 at 10:46 am
Carson is the best overall QB the Raiders have had since Gannon……PERIOD!!
November 12th, 2011 at 10:53 am
Resigning Bush is a must!!
Restructure down the contracts again of Carson, Seymour, Wimbley, Routt and CJ after the season to toward the end of this season to resign Bush.
I think they should try and resign Bush before the season ends and then focus on signing DMC to a deal after the season.
November 12th, 2011 at 10:56 am
If Al had not signed Kelly at those numbers another team would have.
November 12th, 2011 at 10:56 am
exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
November 11th, 2011 at 2:39 pm
Curry fined $20,000 for his hit on Teblow last week by NFL.
^^^^^^^^
That’s ridiculous!!
I wonder if it was Vick on the receiving end of that push, if the league would have threw a fine down on Curry??
Hmm….the NFL is weird!
November 12th, 2011 at 11:01 am
http://www.FreePriesttjNow.org
Bring Tj home.
November 12th, 2011 at 11:04 am
http://www.FreePriesttjNow.org
I don’t blame Priesttj one iota for leaving. All the mud slingin he had to endure, and a bevy of ill posters raggin him all the time. But so what, Tj is above that. Hey Tj, you have a lot of supporters here. More than the detractors. The haters. Coach Davis supporters outweigh the haters.
November 12th, 2011 at 11:05 am
http://www.FreePriesttjNow.org
November 12th, 2011 at 11:06 am
The SD game was a blueprint on how to run the team…..
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Pretty obvious that SD was much weaker in the front seven than the teams we have played in the last few weeks . When you aren’t blowing guys off the line you have to have a strong passing game. I would like Hue and Palmer to include a more ball
control passing offense for the times when the running game is ineffective.
November 12th, 2011 at 11:07 am
http://www.FreePriesttjNow.org
Please sign the petition.
Jer and Cork undoubtedly will support this.
November 12th, 2011 at 11:09 am
Anyone else catch last night that part of the Al Football Life where the narrator said ” there were cast offs that went there, but turned out to be busts…”
As soon has he said “bust” a shot of Sapp flashed on the screen. I love it, he is now immortalized as a f-up with anything Raiders.
November 12th, 2011 at 11:09 am
Chargers suck soooo bad. I just wish we could ran the score up on them, like 60+ to 10 or so. Damn that hurt that we didn’t, but a win at their place with a home game feel will work.
November 12th, 2011 at 11:10 am
Has anyone heard Priest on the radio lately?I wonder if something happened to him.I find it strange that someone who is such a huge Raider fan would just drop off the blog.He was excited about the Palmer trade and that is the last he has been around.If you are out there Priest,just drop in and say you are alive.
DKnight-No,they wouldn’t and I’m not a Vick fan.
November 12th, 2011 at 11:12 am
The one thing I really like about Palmer aside from his throws is that he’s not afraid to audible into a running play. So far he’s done it in each and every game.
This can only help to temper some of Hue’s first year coaching bravado and 1st time HC game management mistakes.
I hope Hue reassesses his decisions to run clock when the game is ours. Running the clock IS going for the dagger too.
November 12th, 2011 at 11:12 am
Morilla Says:
November 12th, 2011 at 11:09 am
Anyone else catch last night that part of the Al Football Life where the narrator said ” there were cast offs that went there, but turned out to be busts…”
As soon has he said “bust” a shot of Sapp flashed on the screen. I love it, he is now immortalized as a f-up with anything Raiders.
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I’m glad that part was short. I started to get pissed.
November 12th, 2011 at 11:15 am
The other thing I’m excited about is after reading those salaries.
We have room to resign our players and the days of the TKelly contracts are OVER!
We may not do much in the draft next year (or we might WIZ2.0, DMoore, Jacoby, Barksdale in the later rounds),but I have no doubt we will be able to get some quality vets through FA.
November 12th, 2011 at 11:18 am
Yeah, the last 10 minutes of that became sad real fast. But I like how they displayed how Al still had it and pointed out the drafting of Ford and Moore.
November 12th, 2011 at 11:18 am
After 8 Fracking LONG years we finally have an OLine!
Top 5 in the league when we allow them to plow the road first.
Please see that on film Hue.
And while you’re at it. WIZ2.0 is our best center and Heyer our best LG.
Love the Rotation of OLine players to keep everyone in the game.
November 12th, 2011 at 11:20 am
Cervantes Says:
November 12th, 2011 at 11:12 am
The one thing I really like about Palmer aside from his throws is that he’s not afraid to audible into a running play.
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An absolute field general out there. We’ve never seen so much audibling at the line of scrimmage for quite some time here.
I’m not sure if you’re alluding to Palmer overriding Hue’s play calls. I just think he’s taking what he sees is available based on the defense. Nice to have a QB that can recognize that sort of thing. Telling you, this offense will only get better. It’s a brand new era for Raider football, fellas.
And don’t get me wrong. There will be picks and mistakes. But I think they will be fewer as time goes on and Palmer will help this offense achieve it’s full potential.
November 12th, 2011 at 11:23 am
Oh, and Good Morning Nation
November 12th, 2011 at 11:25 am
I can’t believe there are guys who want to trade McFadden. I guess if you get two first round picks for him or someone like Darrel Revis it may work out. DMac is the guy who is going to get this team into the playoffs. Now that Palmer is here, McFadden should be run crazy, if he stays healthy.
November 12th, 2011 at 11:27 am
Lefty12 Says:
November 12th, 2011 at 11:10 am
Has anyone heard Priest on the radio lately?I wonder if something happened to him.I find it strange that someone who is such a huge Raider fan would just drop off the blog.He was excited about the Palmer trade and that is the last he has been around.If you are out there Priest,just drop in and say you are alive.
DKnight-No,they wouldn’t and I’m not a Vick fan.
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He was here yesterday. Of course, it could have been someone trolling his name.
November 12th, 2011 at 11:27 am
Cervantes Says:
November 12th, 2011 at 11:18 am
After 8 Fracking LONG years we finally have an OLine!
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This cannot be overstated. It all starts with them.
November 12th, 2011 at 11:28 am
I was alluding to Palmer overriding a play, but not because he wants to, but for the reason you are stating the defense is giving something else and he knows how to take it.
I think Hue believes in his approach so much that at times it is inflexible and definitely a unnecessary risk.
For my taste I don’t believe in unnecessary risks like throwing a deep ball when you have the lead late in the 4th Q and would be better served chewing clock or forcing the other team to burn their TOs.
I like Hue’s High risk approach to play calling, but I hope he outgrows the unnecessary risks he’s shown in his game management.
November 12th, 2011 at 11:31 am
For my taste I don’t believe in unnecessary risks like throwing a deep ball when you have the lead late in the 4th Q and would be better served chewing clock or forcing the other team to burn their TOs.
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Agree with you there. Many times it’s better taking the extra 40 seconds off the clock by running, even if the other team knows it’s coming, then to go for the kill shot. Besides, we’re running the ball well. Even when they know it’s coming, they sometimes can’t stop it.
November 12th, 2011 at 11:31 am
It’s a great weekend to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?!
Yes, Carson Palmer is a field general…whereas, Jason Campbell is a field colonel.
Jason has all the traits of a good QB, but he’s lacked the “it factor” since he came into the NFL. He’s not the only player that happens to. Carson Palmer, on the other hand, has played at the highest level…at every level he’s played. Not only does Palmer recognize things in a hurry, he plans a way around them in a hurry. Confidence, to go with ability. Confidence that comes with competency.
Here’s to Carson Palmer being worth every bit of those draft picks. Keep him (and Mike Bush) healthy, and CP3 takes the team right into the Playoffs.
November 12th, 2011 at 11:37 am
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November 11th, 2011 at 7:38 pm
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November 11th, 2011 at 6:47 pm
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November 12th, 2011 at 11:37 am
It’s a great weekend to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?!
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Absolutely! What’s better than victory Monday? A: Victory Friday, Saturday, and Sunday!
November 12th, 2011 at 11:37 am
I like Bush, he is a good TB.
Why does he play so soft? Always dancing behind the Los, very rarley lowering his head dnd dishing out a big hit, and he always seems to go down awkwardly sometimes even going down backwards. He has the speed to run past the D-line and some LB’s but not most DB’s.
And another thing, why does EVERY other RB get more Yards Per Rush than Bush in the same game, with the same plays called?
We do need a prime back up to McFaddy though.
November 12th, 2011 at 11:39 am
TSR,we weren’t running the ball well late in the Denver game.The thing is with CP we have a better chance when we can’t run.
November 12th, 2011 at 11:39 am
Palmer to Moore and Ford will be like Brady to Welker and Branch. Everyone pregame show will be talking about how nobody can stop them.
So how long before D Moore puts “Diecisiete” on the back of his jersey?
November 12th, 2011 at 11:42 am
Sullivan44 Says:
November 6th, 2011 at 4:34 pm
We just got our asses whupped by one of the worst teams in the league. And we just laid down like dogs, while they ran for 297. I am not a Raider fan anymore, and not sure I ever was one. I more enjoyed the idea the team might look good some day, but I can’t be associated with these losers. My Niner hat looks better and better. See you losers later.
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key part of this rant….
“I am not a Raider fan anymore, and not sure I ever was one.”
November 12th, 2011 at 11:45 am
We have a tough match-up coming up.
MIN has a powerful defensive front, and an offense with explosive potential (Peterson is very dangerous).
Our defense has proven to be inconsistent, and our offense relies on the run to set up the pass. Hue needs to have a creative gameplan. I don’t expect us to dominate the line of scrimmage like we did against SD.
Do Not Sleep on the Vikings!
November 12th, 2011 at 11:46 am
What happened to people being banned when they copied someone else’s moniker? Where you at mods?
November 12th, 2011 at 11:46 am
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November 12th, 2011 at 11:46 am
This when CP is dangerous, The Vikes secondary is extremely poor. Look for CP and the WR’s to have a huge game. Bush needs to improve his protection if he starts.
November 12th, 2011 at 11:48 am
Lefty12 Says:
November 12th, 2011 at 11:39 am
TSR,we weren’t running the ball well late in the Denver game.The thing is with CP we have a better chance when we can’t run.
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Noted. When I made that comment, I was thinking of our last offensive series in this last game. We stopped the clock with a failed pass attempt on 2nd down. Granted, we made up for it with a successful completion on 3rd to move the sticks, but had that one failed too, we would have given SD way too much time. I guess one of those things where it’s criticized if it fails and praised if it works. In general though, in that situation, I like to see running plays.
That being said, I remember past coaches (even Gruden) being too conservative at the end and playing to lose any time they have the lead in the 4th. I definitely don’t want that. Keep attacking. But run it when you’re at 2-3 minutes left to play. 40 seconds is huge in that situation.
November 12th, 2011 at 11:48 am
There is no doubt our O functions much better when the run is working and it helps set up the pass.However,I believe that is where CP improves us.If the run isn’t working,CP will be able to carry the team through the air.No offense to JC,but he couldn’t.
November 12th, 2011 at 11:49 am
“I don’t believe in unnecessary risks like throwing a deep ball when you have the lead late in the 4th Q…”
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Hue only knows one way to call plays…to change much would be to become too predictable. The timely deep ball, even when leading late, is an excellent weapon…it can put the dagger in (something we’ve all been wanting). Yes, it can be picked, but it can be like a punt then. It also keeps the DB’s/LB’s a little more on their heels, not knowing when to take the extra step up against the run.
Hue Jax and CP3 = They are who we think they are…and we’re gonna have to just accept them for who they are.
November 12th, 2011 at 11:54 am
Keep him (and Mike Bush) healthy, and CP3 takes the team right into the Playoffs.
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Agree. Health will determine how far we get.
November 12th, 2011 at 11:58 am
It would be great if we start to get healthy and stop losing guys as others return.It sure would be nice to see the whole team healthy at once.
November 12th, 2011 at 12:06 pm
Agreed with the earlier comments. health is the key in the NFL. I.E the niners and packers are relatively healthy and have the best record.
Hue needs to figure out a way to utilize his weapons to the MAX…and truth be told, that is difficult. He has 3 RB’s that deserve touches, he has 3 WR’s that are proving the deserve the ball thrown to them and has a TE in Boss, that is reliable as well
this might be a absurd statement, but this offensive team has the makings to be the most balanced, efficient offese in the league, better than the Packers( pass heavy) or the Niner (Run Heavy) offenses.
—->>>this is all pending the return of DMAC and Ford and the team not suffering any injuries
November 12th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
Get rid of Tommie Kelly?? Getthefugouttahere.
This is not Warren Sapp’s Tommy Kelly we’re talking about. This is the TK that we always knew was in there. Richard Seymour disappearing? Hardly. Who cares if his name’s not called so much, as long as the players around him are making plays? Seymour’s the #1 reason this D-line has a chance to be great. The young guys are tougher, and wiser, because of Seymour.
Seymour & Kelly are having dynamite seasons. And so are the kids playing around them…in large part because the old guys are kickin arse.
Oh, yeah…those contract $$ amounts posted above are waaaay out-dated, and a lot of those deals have been re-worked. Some more than once.
November 12th, 2011 at 12:08 pm
57.4.2 40 Says:
November 11th, 2011 at 8:50 pm
If you have a kindly message, some caring words to say,
Don’t forget it, share it today.
The words that go unspoken, the letters never sent,
Are like unburned candles, there light and warmth unspent?
There’s always a heart waiting just to hear from you,
And your words have the power to make the rays shine through.
Sometimes I am sure you thought I was confused, lost without a clue,
From all of the faces I’d shown to you.
And I am sure all of your days you must rue,
All of the changes that I’d put you all through.
It must have been hard to understand that all four seasons lied within my hand,
A tempest that no one could tame or command.
We all knew it well,
That I was your heaven and I was your hell.
I was the cold breath of winter, the daisies in the spring,
The fire in your heart, an angel with soft wings.
But my decisions must have gotten old,
I appeared so very heartless and so very cold.
I am sure you would have been relieved, if I could only reveal,
That my heart could, truly love and feel.
When I was alone, I would often cry. I thought about the fans of the Nation, and I felt so bad.
And I tried over and over to show everyone that you were the best thing I’ve ever had.
I wish I could have told you how much I did care,
And explain how good it felt to know that the fans were there.
And more than anything, I wish I could have been,
Everything you ever wanted of me.
Remember when I was going to extremes that no matter how distant I would seem,
The Raiders, always were my greatest dream.
So send all your loved ones a kind message, there’s never a reason to wait.
As for me, you don’t have to express your heart, my loyal fans, it’s now too late.
When you think of a person and what he has done in his life, was that person kind, generous, loyal, caring, devoted, daring, tactical, loving, persuasive, genuine and fair, you can look back and consider those qualities or inequalities that they achieved or didn’t as being a testament or legacy of what an individual stood for. What his life meant. Was there a meaning or goodness to his life. Was that life purposeful in someway. Did it bring hope and happiness to others by benevolence or courage. Did that life reach into peoples souls and produce things that they themselves may not have believed, capable of. All of these questions and so many more can be considered a part of someones legacy. What did they leave before leaving us. I think the greatest complement one can give is that they gave more than they ever asked for. I have only known two individuals in my lifetime that I can say and answer unequivocally yes too. I have lost both this year. So, we have the cherished memories of those we have lost. The smile and that quest and thirst for life and how to make it better for others is no longer. Can any of us say we gave more than we ever asked for. I can’t answer that question and speak of myself and say yes I did.
But if you have an inspiration or someone who has reached into your soul and delivered that quality or aspiration inside of you to be better, maybe we can answer that affirmatively before we are gone from life. Mr. Antol and Mr. Davis provided that impetus and one can only aspire to be, in our lives, what they were to me……Love always…..AP77
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Phenomenal. Love it.
November 12th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
November 12th, 2011 at 11:20 am
Cervantes Says:
November 12th, 2011 at 11:12 am
The one thing I really like about Palmer aside from his throws is that he’s not afraid to audible into a running play.
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An absolute field general out there. We’ve never seen so much audibling at the line of scrimmage for quite some time here.
I’m not sure if you’re alluding to Palmer overriding Hue’s play calls. I just think he’s taking what he sees is available based on the defense. Nice to have a QB that can recognize that sort of thing. Telling you, this offense will only get better. It’s a brand new era for Raider football, fellas.
And don’t get me wrong. There will be picks and mistakes. But I think they will be fewer as time goes on and Palmer will help this offense achieve it’s full potential.
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Fck Yeah! And for Palmer to step in and have a game like that while still learnig the Raiders system and o-line and WRs’ was fckng huge. CP is shaking the rust off quick, and getting the ball to the playmaker Moore is where its at. And with the Bush ground attack, that is some good schit.
November 12th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
Ride Carson Palmer into the Playoffs…and let the Defense come into its own along the way. Then, watch the Defense dominate a game or three on the way to glory.
It really can happen.
November 12th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
Question for thought. I know this is off subject. Anyway, is it me or does the lead singer of Foxy Shazam look as though he has some “sugar” in the tank? lol Just saying.
November 12th, 2011 at 12:20 pm
Hayes,we control our destiny and that is good.We don’t have to depend on anyone.Just go out and win and the division is ours.Once in the tournament anything is possible.
November 12th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
Jan 1 — The last game of the year vs SD could be like a Playoff game.
Followed by a home game vs a Wild Card team (Pittsburgh?).
November 12th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiqUp_PRNAs
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Foxy Shazam, lead singer has suga in the tank or what is it?
November 12th, 2011 at 12:29 pm
Here’s to Carson Palmer being worth every bit of those draft picks.
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Here’s the thing with being worth the draft picks. Teams miss on QBs in the draft all the time. Here we have a QB where you know what he can do. He can be an upper echelon QB, and with our speed and talent, I had no doubt and neither did Hue about what he could achieve.
So people keep looking at that round 1 and round 2 picks, a steep price, yes. But Hue knew what he was getting and the value of a franchise QB is incredible. They don’t grow on trees folks.
Biggest drawback is his age. What does he have, 5 or 6 years left maybe? I’ll still take it. With all this talent and speed, the time is now. Gonna be hard to keep everyone around.
November 12th, 2011 at 12:31 pm
And just to clarify, I know you weren’t criticizing the trade, Hayes. Just adding my thoughts for those that did criticize it.
I’m out for a little while, fellas. Enjoy your afternoon.
November 12th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
November 12th, 2011 at 9:51 am
morilla Says:
November 12th, 2011 at 9:49 am
Still no coverage of thug Charger fan stabbing a Raider fan. Go figure
……….
While Nebraska and PSU players were praying, PSU fans were yelling, “Bullschit, bullschit”, but ESPN drowned it out. No doubt the sports media protects certain teams and fan bases, while vilifying others.
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Exactly!
November 12th, 2011 at 12:34 pm
This team seems to have a hard time grasping control when it’s right in front of them. The best season in nearly a decade is upon us, and if everyone plays (and coaches) to their potential, this is a Playoff team.
November 12th, 2011 at 12:34 pm
What up everyone!!! Im back….and made it home safe!
November 12th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
TSR,while we might not be able to keep everyone around,those that would probably leave-RBs or WRs -are replaceable because I doubt we let the main guys go-McFadden,Moore,Ford,McClain,Curry, and possibly DHB.While Bush is a damn good back,backs are one of the easiest positions to reload.The key will be keeping the Oline intact or even making it better.
November 12th, 2011 at 12:36 pm
A 1st and a 2nd for a franchise type QB who is vet, can read defenses, make audibles, is smart, works hard, and can make all the throws and is a field general ahead of an unknown middle to late round 1st round pick?
I take that all day long…just as long as Carson stays healthy.
November 12th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
Exactly
November 12th, 2011 at 12:42 pm
DHB is done. Palmer in the post game talking about how the sky is the limit for D moore and how great Ford is then throws in at the end. “….and DHB…what runs a 4.2″ Palmer wont throw to DHB if he has to make a play over the D.
November 12th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
Lefty,
I would rather the team resign Bush now. Then IF need be they can use him as trade bait later.
It will be very difficult to replace a back like Bush in the upcoming draft and even in free agency. Bush is a valuable asset.
Seymour, Routt, Wimbley, CJ, Kelly, and Huff can restructure down their contracts again or the cap numbers will not have as much of an impact or will come of the books.
I don’t think Carlisle will be back next season either.
November 12th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
Finally some people making sense about the trade.Some people don’t realize the importance or benefit of having an elite QB,or recognize when someone is elite.
November 12th, 2011 at 12:45 pm
HayesDaze37 Says:
November 12th, 2011 at 12:34 pm
This team seems to have a hard time grasping control when it’s right in front of them. The best season in nearly a decade is upon us, and if everyone plays (and coaches) to their potential, this is a Playoff team.
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It’s going to come down to Huey and Chuck B getting that defense to play better each and every game for this team to get to the playoffs. Period!
November 12th, 2011 at 12:45 pm
The penalties need to be cut also!
November 12th, 2011 at 12:47 pm
I’d love to resign Bush.But we can’t resign someone who doesn’t want to sign and I’m not sure Bush wants to stay knowing McFadden is the starter when he is healthy.
November 12th, 2011 at 12:47 pm
Lefty
Went over and watched the game with Plunkforhof at Coaches. He’s a cool guy.
November 12th, 2011 at 12:51 pm
DHB will still be needed on this team.When Palmer made those comments they were in response to being asked about the speed of our WRs.Moore,Ford, and DHB form a dynamic young WR tandem.
November 12th, 2011 at 12:54 pm
Is there another team with as good a set of young WRs as we have?
November 12th, 2011 at 12:57 pm
231.
No i dont think there is. But its seems to me Palmer does not consider DHB one of his prime targets by his comments. And Hue taking playing time away from DHB to put TJ in DHB’s place. Just doesnt look good for him.
November 12th, 2011 at 1:36 pm
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November 12th, 2011 at 1:38 pm
lefty12 Says:
November 12th, 2011 at 12:47 pm
I’d love to resign Bush.But we can’t resign someone who doesn’t want to sign and I’m not sure Bush wants to stay knowing McFadden is the starter when he is healthy.
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Bush doesn’t want to resign with the Raiders?
The team has made multiple offers to him and he has refused? When did this happen?
November 12th, 2011 at 1:41 pm
Let’s try not to bring up some BS about Palmer not liking DHB.
No need to come up with some unecessary drama with this team. This team has a division to WIN!
November 12th, 2011 at 1:47 pm
I’m not a cap expert by any stretch and I could be very wrong here, but I think the Raiders most likely couldn’t sign Bush to a new contract (or an extension) right now if they wanted to.
Someone correct me if necessary, but I think we don’t currently have the cap room.
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