Raiders live chat today at noon
By Jon Becker
Tuesday, November 15th, 2011 at 10:11 am in Oakland Raiders.
Can the first-place Raiders keep their momentum going this Sunday in Minnesota? Join Steve Corkran on Tuesday at noon as he fields Raiders questions during a live chat.
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November 15th, 2011 at 10:12 am
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November 15th, 2011 at 10:12 am
1st lmfao
November 15th, 2011 at 10:12 am
meant 2nd
November 15th, 2011 at 10:13 am
Mizzou 2-0 and will be 3-0 after rolling Niagra on thursday…then the big tests next monday and tues….Notre Dame then Winner of Cal/UGA game! All will be on ESPN….good times…Raiders kickin ass and Mizzou hoops starting off well!………now thats GUCCI
November 15th, 2011 at 10:13 am
Will Harbaugh the perfect keep that Niners defense in tact? They haven’t won a game yet without good defensive play.
November 15th, 2011 at 10:13 am
“Can the first-place Raiders keep their momentum going this Sunday in Minnesota?”
Why do I fell that Becker’s sluglines should always conclude with:
Tune in same Bat-Time, same Bat-Channel!
November 15th, 2011 at 10:14 am
feel*
November 15th, 2011 at 10:18 am
I want to see a nice, easy, Gruden/Gannon style victory this week. I want to turn my t.v. off when we go up 31-17. I don’t want to turn my t.v. back on, and see a score of 31-24, with Minnesota lining up for an onside. Come on, guys. Let’s play with class this week. Let’s make it official, we’re a good team in this league. Let’s go into a bad team’s stadium with our lunch boxes and hard hats, take care or business, and get back on the plane. No more letting bad teams play with us.
November 15th, 2011 at 10:22 am
But of course, I gots to keep it real. Mark me down for:
Raiders 31, Vikings 24.
Raiders will jump ahead 31-17, and nearly blow it, in Raider fashion.
But I don’t want to see that. I want us to go in and beat a team we’re supposed to beat, and do it easily.
November 15th, 2011 at 10:22 am
This is a game we should win. A game that could build momentum. A game that can change the course of a season, and thereby maybe the near future of a franchise.
This is exactly the type of game a Cable lead team would choke on.
Hue, prove yourself this week. No excuses.
November 15th, 2011 at 10:26 am
I agree! Hue better earn his paycheck this Sunday!
November 15th, 2011 at 10:27 am
Sandusky44
You are not a Raiders fan stop saying “WE”
Do I need to pull up all of your posts from the game last week showing you pulling for the Chargers and proclaiming “This is where the Raider melt down”
November 15th, 2011 at 10:28 am
HairyBush Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 10:18 am
No draft talk! This isn’t 2006, We are in the playoff hunt!
November 15th, 2011 at 10:30 am
Ben Rapelessburgerville has a broken thumb.
That sucks for my FF team…..
November 15th, 2011 at 10:31 am
Dakota Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 10:22 am
This is a game we should win. A game that could build momentum. A game that can change the course of a season, and thereby maybe the near future of a franchise.
This is exactly the type of game a Cable lead team would choke on.
Hue, prove yourself this week. No excuses.
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also a game a good qb wills hit team to victory. I give carson a pass first two starts back. Time to show his worth
November 15th, 2011 at 10:31 am
Hue finally got back to the winning recipe …. pound the ball and use play action downfield. Palmer should never throw for more than 25 passes, if he is, that means we are trailing in in the game. Pound the ball !!!!!!
Seabass might break the FG record if he 100% and gets a chance in that dome.
November 15th, 2011 at 10:32 am
doriangray Says:
November 14th, 2011 at 6:03 pm
tom brady is like a q.b. god dude . see yall needa calm down for a second. rodgers looks amazing this season but i remember when kerry collins looked great . rodgers has a better team than brady and his scheme is gettin it done.
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This is in fact the STUPIDEST statement ever made on this blog. The facts are the exact opposite.
Dont get me wrong, Brady is great, but he is a product of the scheme and great coaching and years of confidence building due to winning and accolades.
His 3 superbowl wins are due to a great defense and clutch passing to go along with a great running game. There’s a reason now that they struggle defensively that they havent won a championship since 2004.
Brady never dominated passing until Randy Moss came. They set records together, years after Brady had his confidence go through the roof thru years of having a great team around him.
Plug in matt Cassel the following season and this Machine STILL goes 11-5.
Rodgers is doing this with his arm. Take him out of the equation and this team is pedestrian. They would go 6-10.
It is just like Peyton Manning and the Colts. When Peyton goes out, they arent even an NFL team. He is MVP. Rodgers is MVP. But for Brady, the system and scheme is MVP.
Brady is a system product. Real fans can differential a special QB from a guy who’s confidence and entire career has been built upon CIRCUMSTANCE.
Rodgers, Manning, Brees >> Brady
These are real pure passers. Quarterbacks.
Brady gets it done with 3 yard quick screens and slants, and tempo passing to welker and his tight ends.
Sorry. It’s just the truth.
Rodgers can make every throw on the entire field and can do it with his eyes closed.
I knew they would win the game last year VS Pittsburg because the steelers defense is built on blitzing and when you have a QB who can beat the blitz, they are exposed as the frauds that they are. They can capitolize on weak teams and weak QBs and win their 11 games per year, but when it comes down to having to play real honest defense against good QBs, they get exposed.
November 15th, 2011 at 10:32 am
I think our players just need to realize that it’s ok to put their foot on an opponent’s throat. It’s ok to win. Really, guys, it is. There’s no law against winning football games. Your wife isn’t going to divorce you for winning a football game. It’s ok, really. You can beat the turd out of teams that you know you’re better than. I promise you guys, everything will be ok. It’s sports. That’s the object of the game. Some of these guys are just so used to losing, it’s almost as if they think it’s impolite to win.
November 15th, 2011 at 10:32 am
FYI it was nice to finally see some screens used and working. all clicks when we run the ball well.
November 15th, 2011 at 10:33 am
I wonder if Hue sticks to the ground game if we get stuffed early. He may whip out his crank and have Carson sling it deep often to take advantage of minnys awful secondary.
We’ll see if he learned anything from the donkey loss.
November 15th, 2011 at 10:33 am
Rodgers, Manning, Brees >> Brady
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This is backwards.
November 15th, 2011 at 10:34 am
Vikings run D is solid, very.
Its all up to our o-line and Carson audibles to create run lanes.
November 15th, 2011 at 10:35 am
You change your game plan week to week. If Hue just wears it on his sleeve that he’s going to run the ball 40 times, defenses will catch on to that. Opponents have to know what we’re a multi-faceted offense. We’ll hit you wherever there’s a weakness.
November 15th, 2011 at 10:36 am
We will have trouble with the Viqueens if they pound peterson and use a quick passing attack. Our defense can be exploited with that formula.
November 15th, 2011 at 10:39 am
If the same team that went into San Diego goes into Minnesota, we’ll handle Peterson and a quick passing attack just fine.
November 15th, 2011 at 10:40 am
The Vikings could be a much better team in the W/L column. McNabb was awful for them, Ponder has been much better. Peterson is licking his chops while looking at McGahee, Tebow success, Harvin goes into the read option/wilcat at times with AP. Our D better play lights out.
November 15th, 2011 at 10:40 am
Live chat = bogus
November 15th, 2011 at 10:40 am
Does anyone have a link to that guy on youtube that broke down certain plays of the Raider games? Ninja-something was his handle.
November 15th, 2011 at 10:41 am
Viqueens run D isn’t what it used to be.
November 15th, 2011 at 10:41 am
Morning peoples!
November 15th, 2011 at 10:43 am
“I said ‘yes,’ and took it upon myself to spend some extra time with him, working out. We started to develop some chemistry.”
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So, I guess DHB and CP didn’t have the same conversation and work outs.
November 15th, 2011 at 10:43 am
MR is so pitiful now lmao…just sit back and watch the show everyone hahahahahaha
November 15th, 2011 at 10:45 am
dmeezles!
November 15th, 2011 at 10:45 am
21.raiderinparadise Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 10:33 am
Rodgers, Manning, Brees >> Brady
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This is backwards.
Actually, his explanation is kind of spot on…what he forgot to mention was that when Brady went down, Cassell stepped in and missed the playoffs with an 11-5 record! Cassell went to KC…well, we know how that went!
November 15th, 2011 at 10:46 am
The formula to beat the Viqueens is to score early, take the crowd out of it and take a comfortable lead. Therefor less carries for AP. Force Ponder to make throws.
“Just throw it in the bag!”
November 15th, 2011 at 10:46 am
What up B, Hwnrdr
November 15th, 2011 at 10:47 am
Some kid balling cause the Raiders beat his team!Chargers I think?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bLyjcXQmF0&feature=fvsr
November 15th, 2011 at 10:47 am
GM DMAC!
November 15th, 2011 at 10:49 am
Wasssupp! DMAC!
November 15th, 2011 at 10:49 am
Wassup R8
November 15th, 2011 at 10:50 am
Is that the one with the kid in the basement or the little kid sitting on the couch? Sorry, can’t watch those at work…
November 15th, 2011 at 10:50 am
37.Carl Weathers Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 10:47 am
Some kid balling cause the Raiders beat his team!Chargers I think?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bLyjcXQmF0&feature=fvsr
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Weird, that kid had a Bears shirt on I think lol. Why did he care that the Raiders beat the Chargers? lol
November 15th, 2011 at 10:51 am
Brady has 3 rings in 4 appearances in superbowl. With no elite WR or TE until Moss. I get what your saying about Cassel, but thats a tribute to bellichek … not to say Brady isn’t good. You ever watch Mallet or Hoyer in pre-season? Studs. Brady is one of the best players or ever grace the NFL at the top position. You guys are really dumb if your going to try and say Brady isn’t the best. Rodgers been doing it for what???? 2.5 years???? Love Rodgers, Maning, Brees, Brady all amazing individuals and leaders and talents. But Brady is an untouchable. Nobody better on the planet.
November 15th, 2011 at 10:52 am
37.Carl Weathers Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 10:47 am
Some kid balling cause the Raiders beat his team!Chargers I think?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bLyjcXQmF0&feature=fvsr
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I will say that I acted about the same way when BC beat ND back in 93 or 94 a week after ND beat Florida State. I threw a mad fit…..but I was 17 lol.
More recently I destroyed a coffee table after the Lakers blew a 24 point lead to the Celtics in 2008.
November 15th, 2011 at 10:52 am
Is that the same crying Charger kid from last year? “Not the Raiders! Not the Raiders!” lol. I think those are staged, anyway.
November 15th, 2011 at 10:53 am
I dont know about spot on… Brady has NEVER had a GREAT running game. They had ok running games at times in the past, but never great. I don’t know why so many people have such a hard time giving Brady the credit. He is a damn good quarterback, on of the best ever. That is indisputable. Rodgers is in the midst of the best season a QB has ever had, if he remains true to form all the way through the season it will be one for the ages. No question Rodgers is an amazing QB, but I just don’t see how anyone can say Brady ISN’T
November 15th, 2011 at 10:54 am
Ray!!…sup bruh…B*auce may be out in Vegas for his bday….man u have to know where da dope spots is at…i aint been to vegas since summer 08
November 15th, 2011 at 10:54 am
No, I think he was saying was that he was a product of the system…Not saying he will not be good anywhere else, but he isn’t untouchable…just my opinion…
November 15th, 2011 at 10:56 am
Brady is very good….but he is not in Montana’s or Elway’s class. Not even close. Brady has taken advantage of a watered down NFL with rules heavily favoring the passing game.
I wouldn’t even put him in Marino’s class, even though Marino never won a SB.
November 15th, 2011 at 10:56 am
42.Dakota Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 10:50 am
37.Carl Weathers Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 10:47 am
Some kid balling cause the Raiders beat his team!Chargers I think?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bLyjcXQmF0&feature=fvsr
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Weird, that kid had a Bears shirt on I think lol. Why did he care that the Raiders beat the Chargers? lol
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LMAO, I was thinking the same.
Hwnrdr, ya he’s on the couch, I HATE THE RAIDERS!!!
November 15th, 2011 at 10:57 am
Ok, that’s the one where the dad starts to laugh and say, hey, hate is a strong word, or something like that?
November 15th, 2011 at 10:57 am
Does anyone know where I can find the videos on youtube where key plays are broken down with different angles and players highlighted etc.?
November 15th, 2011 at 10:59 am
There’s a link to Rocky Lockridge crying on the same page. Reading the comments to it, my goodness. The guy had a stroke for crying out loud. We’re a cruel culture. Guess we’re just toughing ourselves up for a dark world that’s looming upon us.
November 15th, 2011 at 10:59 am
49.Dakota Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 10:56 am
Brady is very good….but he is not in Montana’s or Elway’s class. Not even close. Brady has taken advantage of a watered down NFL with rules heavily favoring the passing game.
I wouldn’t even put him in Marino’s class, even though Marino never won a SB.
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We missed Dakota!
November 15th, 2011 at 11:01 am
49.Dakota Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 10:56 am
Brady is very good….but he is not in Montana’s or Elway’s class. Not even close. Brady has taken advantage of a watered down NFL with rules heavily favoring the passing game.
I wouldn’t even put him in Marino’s class, even though Marino never won a SB.
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It is an impossible comparison. Just like when people say Lebron or Kobe are better than Jordon. You can never match them up in their prime so it is all opinion. It is hard to say that a guy that won 3 Superbowls isn’t one of the best of all time. I doubt that Brady is done collecting rings either. I see at least one more in his future.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:01 am
R8dercain Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 9:37 am
The Realist Dirty Raccoon Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 9:28 am
Does anyone not see us signing a above average MLB next year?
I can see us drafting one, but we need a Stud Now!
The Draft should be DT, DE, OLB, MLB. In best available order.
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where will we get the picks from. We have no draft in 2012
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Yes we do have picks silly, and we will get a couple more from FA loss supplemental picks
Gotta be resourceful, ya know..
November 15th, 2011 at 11:02 am
My GB defense broke Big Ben’s thumb. Sorry Dakota.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:02 am
I do have Alex Smith as a backup.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:03 am
Fk the draft. We’re playoff bound!
November 15th, 2011 at 11:03 am
I like Roethlisberger because I think he’s the only star QB today that could have played in any era. Neither Brady or Rodgers could have played in the ’70s. They’re both products of modern day QB safety rules. Their skills are formulated around these rules.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:04 am
55.bcz24 Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 11:01 am
49.Dakota Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 10:56 am
Brady is very good….but he is not in Montana’s or Elway’s class. Not even close. Brady has taken advantage of a watered down NFL with rules heavily favoring the passing game.
I wouldn’t even put him in Marino’s class, even though Marino never won a SB.
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It is an impossible comparison. Just like when people say Lebron or Kobe are better than Jordon. You can never match them up in their prime so it is all opinion. It is hard to say that a guy that won 3 Superbowls isn’t one of the best of all time. I doubt that Brady is done collecting rings either. I see at least one more in his future.
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I am not saying he isn’t one of the best of all-time. He is certainly that, but even the upper echelon of QBs has a hierarchy, and Brady falls just beneath the top rung.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:05 am
Vikings CB Antoine Winfield (broken clavicle) is expected to miss the rest of the season.
Source: St. Paul Pioneer Press
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Field day for CP and our WR’s!!!!
I don’t normally call blow outs, but I smell one coming.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:05 am
Let me put it another way:
If you were to put Manning (1st of all), Rodgers, or Brees on a bad team, I truely believe they are immediately a 10 win team or more. Because of those guys right arms. Heck even Carson from what we’ve seen thru 2 games…we’ll see down the road.
But if Brady moves to that team…I have my reservations.
There is no question he is great as far as fire, passion, leadership. But I think his immeasurable success is not due to him being a spectacular QB. It is more attributed to what he is asked to do, and how he was able to grow into his role.
A major part of success in sports is confidence. And his career and circumstances have put a ton of confidence in him over the years.
He looks great since 2007 firing those throws to his receivers, but even Dante Culpepper had a record season with Randy Moss going downfield.
Without Moss, what throws does Brady really make? Tight End down the seam, check (Jamarcus Russell was competent at that too), quick slants and screens to welker. Timing. Thats about it.
Look at the throws Rodgers, Brees and Manning make. All of them. All the time.
Just saying…if you examine it.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:05 am
Yeah but I still wouldn’t call Brady the best either! Someone asked me last year if I would take Brady on our team…I said no! Reason being is because I am not sure he would have strived here! He was at the right place at the right time…Brady is a good qb, a darn good qb, but you have to admit, he was a product of the system, also a darn good D which he had during the SB years!
November 15th, 2011 at 11:06 am
37.Carl Weathers Says:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bLyjcXQmF0&feature=fvsr
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That’s from last year. Still funny though.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:08 am
Brady can avoid pressure with the best of em. It’s amazing how he slides in that pocket with his eyes always surveying the field.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:08 am
I’d say Montana and Elway are the relatively recent Jordan and Kobe of the NFL…..and Brady is more like the Clyde Drexler of the NFL….HOFer, All-time Great, Champion…but not quite in the top top rung.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:09 am
DMAC, I’m with ya , BLOWOUT!
34-13 Raiders
November 15th, 2011 at 11:09 am
I know a lot of self proclaimed die hard fans in here sounded like that kid when Hue made the trade for Palmer.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:10 am
Brady could only play in this era. He wouldn’t have lasted more than a few years if he’d played at any time between the inception of the league, and the late ’80s. He’s not tough enough.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:10 am
Lmao @ “strived”
November 15th, 2011 at 11:10 am
Well according to priesttj M Vick is better than Elway so Brady is also inferior to him as well.
We almost miss tj…
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Method To My Madness Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 10:59 am
49.Dakota Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 10:56 am
Brady is very good….but he is not in Montana’s or Elway’s class. Not even close. Brady has taken advantage of a watered down NFL with rules heavily favoring the passing game.
I wouldn’t even put him in Marino’s class, even though Marino never won a SB.
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We missed Dakota!
November 15th, 2011 at 11:10 am
67.Dakota Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 11:08 am
I’d say Montana and Elway are the relatively recent Jordan and Kobe of the NFL…..and Brady is more like the Clyde Drexler of the NFL….HOFer, All-time Great, Champion…but not quite in the top top rung.
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Jordan is the most overrated athlete ever…he benefitted from expansion and the weakest era of basketball ever…the 90s….fk MJ he aint the best ever
November 15th, 2011 at 11:12 am
Obviously, bich’s
November 15th, 2011 at 11:12 am
Wilt is the best ever, but that is another argument Brien.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:13 am
Dakota,
In the off season you would have gave your right nut for Kolb. How is that looking now? You still have a pair?
November 15th, 2011 at 11:13 am
Mista…BHP rules but cant believe he chickened out vs the other old man
November 15th, 2011 at 11:13 am
Brady > Condo
November 15th, 2011 at 11:14 am
BHP does not rule but he is good comedy.
Or he was…..period
November 15th, 2011 at 11:14 am
76.MistaBrown Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 11:13 am
Dakota,
In the off season you would have gave your right nut for Kolb. How is that looking now? You still have a pair?
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Lol, I think you have me confused with someone else. This offseason I said “why trade for Kolb? We already have a QB that doesn’t get WRs involved with Jason Campbell.”
November 15th, 2011 at 11:15 am
Largely I enjoy football talk/debates but when anyone says any other QB is better than Tom Brady, they clearly have something against him. In this blog, maybe the tuck rule? LoL.
He is miles away better than Elway, and Montana was a true great but he had Rice (you know the best WR ever) and a slew of HOF around him.
Steve Young, Montana, Warner, Elway, have all admitted Brady is the best now …. Young said himself Brady is the best ever. But Brady is in rare-air for eevrything he does/did.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:15 am
Brady > Condo
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Good insight!
I would say Brady>Ekejuba as well
November 15th, 2011 at 11:15 am
No end to the Brady haters around here. I just don’t get it. The dude had three Super Bowl wins before Randy Moss got there. He didn’t suddenly become a legit passer when Moss arrived.
He’s efficient, reads defenses very well, very accurate, avoids sacks, minimizes mistakes as well as anyone. He’s a dam smart and great player. Period. He will go down as one of the all-time great QBs.
You gotta get over the tuck game, fools. Just let it go already.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:16 am
B, do I have Dak confused?
Chime in…
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Dakota Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 11:14 am
Lol, I think you have me confused with someone else. This offseason I said “why trade for Kolb? We already have a QB that doesn’t get WRs involved with Jason Campbell.”
November 15th, 2011 at 11:16 am
Brady > Dan Land
November 15th, 2011 at 11:17 am
Go Fk a steer you queer, get over that and then let that go.
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RaidingTexas Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 11:15am
You gotta get over the tuck game, fools. Just let it go already.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:18 am
Michigan bball > Mizzou
November 15th, 2011 at 11:18 am
Brien knows the truth. I supported Jason Campbell as our 2011 QB because there were no better options available.
However, I always maintained that he could never take us to the SB and that we needed to look for the QB of the future.
Palmer is that guy. He fits the bill for the next five years.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:18 am
Can always count on you to respond with ignorance, Mr. Brown.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:19 am
81.raiderinparadise Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 11:15 am
Largely I enjoy football talk/debates but when anyone says any other QB is better than Tom Brady, they clearly have something against him. In this blog, maybe the tuck rule? LoL.
He is miles away better than Elway, and Montana was a true great but he had Rice (you know the best WR ever) and a slew of HOF around him.
Steve Young, Montana, Warner, Elway, have all admitted Brady is the best now …. Young said himself Brady is the best ever. But Brady is in rare-air for eevrything he does/did.
I agree, I do hate his guts (as a player) because of the Tuck Rule, but I never said any other QB was better than Brady…Just not untouchable!
November 15th, 2011 at 11:20 am
Dak, I will wait for a second opinion.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:20 am
I’ll 2nd that Wilt was the greatest of all time. They changed the key because of him. At Kansas, He ran the 100-yard dash in 10.9 seconds, shot-putted 56 feet, triple jumped more than 50 feet, and won the high jump in the Big Eight track and field championships three straight years(wiki). World class volleyball player. When he could not join the NBA for a year, he played for the Harlem Globetrotters and on film handled the ball like Magic.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:20 am
But Dakota, Palmer is white…
November 15th, 2011 at 11:20 am
LOL @ Dan Land! I swear Al picked some guys based on name alone!Weel as long as they were fast
Torin Dorn, James Jett, Stryker Sulak?!
November 15th, 2011 at 11:21 am
92.exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 11:20 am
I’ll 2nd that Wilt was the greatest of all time. They changed the key because of him. At Kansas, He ran the 100-yard dash in 10.9 seconds, shot-putted 56 feet, triple jumped more than 50 feet, and won the high jump in the Big Eight track and field championships three straight years(wiki). World class volleyball player. When he could not join the NBA for a year, he played for the Harlem Globetrotters and on film handled the ball like Magic.
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My dad saw Wilt play with the Trotters in some barn in Iowa lol. Crazy.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:21 am
Dan Land shopped at my dad’s clothing store in Ladera Heights. Lived 2 blocks away.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:22 am
93.Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 11:20 am
But Dakota, Palmer is white…
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I hadn’t noticed….must have been that USC tan.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:22 am
He’s not white he’s Italian.
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Dakota Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 11:22 am
93.Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 11:20 am
But Dakota, Palmer is white…
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I hadn’t noticed….must have been that USC tan.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:23 am
I know the Vikes looked weak last night, but we cant take that game for granted. We have to prove we can win on the road. We stink in those early morning games. This is the type of game we usually take for granted!!!
November 15th, 2011 at 11:24 am
88.Dakota Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 11:18 am
Brien knows the truth. I supported Jason Campbell as our 2011 QB because there were no better options available.
However, I always maintained that he could never take us to the SB and that we needed to look for the QB of the future.
Palmer is that guy. He fits the bill for the next five years.
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Yeah Dakota been saying this…while i disagree that JC couldnt take us…we would be 7-2 right now if he didnt get hurt with best rec in AFC….no doubt
November 15th, 2011 at 11:24 am
MistaBrown Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 11:22 am
He’s not white he’s Italian.
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LoL… he’s the only red-headed Italian in the world then…
November 15th, 2011 at 11:24 am
MistaBrown Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 11:22 am
He’s not white he’s Italian.
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Like half Visigoth and half Hun?
November 15th, 2011 at 11:24 am
99.L.A. Raider Dave Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 11:23 am
I know the Vikes looked weak last night, but we cant take that game for granted. We have to prove we can win on the road. We stink in those early morning games. This is the type of game we usually take for granted!!!
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Agreed Dave
November 15th, 2011 at 11:26 am
JC in his wildest wet dreams would never take us to a SB.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:26 am
I’m more nervous about this game because we NOW have something to lose, 1st place!
November 15th, 2011 at 11:27 am
I have no doubt that our offense will score enough points to beat Minnesota. The real question is, and justifiably so, can our defense show up for 4 quarters, and not have the stupid mental meltdowns that cause us to give away so many games.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:27 am
I 1st saw Wilt at the L.A. Sports arena when he was with the Phil. Warriors. That was the year he averaged 50 pts a game. Wilt, Hal Greer, Billy Cunningham, Wally ? and Luke Jackson. That was the year Elgin Baylor averaged 38 a game. Dble Ot, Wilt scored 70+ and Baylor 63. Lakers lost. They has Darrel Imhoff at center, the former Knicks center who Wilt got 100 on.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:27 am
We HAVE to jump out to an early lead, and force them to put the game in Ponders hands, and out of AP’s. If AP gets more than 25 carries we lose.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:28 am
I forgot…KK has confirmed Transylvanians are also black.
He descended from Kount Dracula-Washington.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:28 am
Method To My Madness Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 11:10 am
67.Dakota Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 11:08 am
I’d say Montana and Elway are the relatively recent Jordan and Kobe of the NFL…..and Brady is more like the Clyde Drexler of the NFL….HOFer, All-time Great, Champion…but not quite in the top top rung.
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Jordan is the most overrated athlete ever…he benefitted from expansion and the weakest era of basketball ever…the 90s….fk MJ he aint the best ever
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My vote is for Bill Russell.
The ultimate winner!
November 15th, 2011 at 11:28 am
99.L.A. Raider Dave Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 11:23 am
I know the Vikes looked weak last night, but we cant take that game for granted. We have to prove we can win on the road. We stink in those early morning games. This is the type of game we usually take for granted!!!
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Isn’t Minny just one hour ahead? Or is it two?
November 15th, 2011 at 11:29 am
107.exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 11:27 am
I 1st saw Wilt at the L.A. Sports arena when he was with the Phil. Warriors. That was the year he averaged 50 pts a game. Wilt, Hal Greer, Billy Cunningham, Wally ? and Luke Jackson. That was the year Elgin Baylor averaged 38 a game. Dble Ot, Wilt scored 70+ and Baylor 63. Lakers lost. They has Darrel Imhoff at center, the former Knicks center who Wilt got 100 on.
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Oh yeah? Well I saw Shaq play an exhibition against Christian Laettner their rookie years!
November 15th, 2011 at 11:30 am
Carl Weathers Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 11:28 am
99.L.A. Raider Dave Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 11:23 am
I know the Vikes looked weak last night, but we cant take that game for granted. We have to prove we can win on the road. We stink in those early morning games. This is the type of game we usually take for granted!!!
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Isn’t Minny just one hour ahead? Or is it two?
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I think 1
November 15th, 2011 at 11:31 am
110.DMAC Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 11:28 am
My vote is for Bill Russell.
The ultimate winner!
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Bill Russell? Come on now! Wilt destroyed him in every matchup….Russell just happened to have 5 or 6 other great players around him.
Russell was great, but not the best.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:32 am
Dakota Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 11:29 am
107.exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 11:27 am
I 1st saw Wilt at the L.A. Sports arena when he was with the Phil. Warriors. That was the year he averaged 50 pts a game. Wilt, Hal Greer, Billy Cunningham, Wally ? and Luke Jackson. That was the year Elgin Baylor averaged 38 a game. Dble Ot, Wilt scored 70+ and Baylor 63. Lakers lost. They has Darrel Imhoff at center, the former Knicks center who Wilt got 100 on.
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Oh yeah? Well I saw Shaq play an exhibition against Christian Laettner their rookie years!
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Well I saw Manute Bol go off against some team I forgot. Dude was icying 3’s foreals!
November 15th, 2011 at 11:32 am
113.DMAC Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 11:30 am
Carl Weathers Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 11:28 am
99.L.A. Raider Dave Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 11:23 am
I know the Vikes looked weak last night, but we cant take that game for granted. We have to prove we can win on the road. We stink in those early morning games. This is the type of game we usually take for granted!!!
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Isn’t Minny just one hour ahead? Or is it two?
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I think 1
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2 hours
November 15th, 2011 at 11:32 am
Actually Cleveland Buckner was guarding Wilt for his 100 game. Guy was my college coach.
Used to say…i got 33, Wilt couldn’t stop me either
November 15th, 2011 at 11:32 am
110.DMAC Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 11:28 am
Method To My Madness Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 11:10 am
67.Dakota Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 11:08 am
I’d say Montana and Elway are the relatively recent Jordan and Kobe of the NFL…..and Brady is more like the Clyde Drexler of the NFL….HOFer, All-time Great, Champion…but not quite in the top top rung.
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Jordan is the most overrated athlete ever…he benefitted from expansion and the weakest era of basketball ever…the 90s….fk MJ he aint the best ever
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My vote is for Bill Russell.
The ultimate winner!
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Bill Russell hands down the best nba player ever…most talented is Karem Abdul Jabbar or Magic Johnson
November 15th, 2011 at 11:33 am
Nobody is white. We’re all descendants of Africa. To be white, or a “caveman”, is a choice one makes.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:33 am
Manute Bol lol!
Bummer that he died….seemed like a good dude.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:33 am
Mista…i totally disagree…I like JC….rough biz tho
November 15th, 2011 at 11:34 am
Either way. Team seems to get complacent on the road and after minor successes. I agree that the offense should hold up well. Its the run D i’m most worried about.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:34 am
brady = drexler? lol. With Super Bowl rings.
Guy won super bowls with average to below average receivers that went elsewhere and bombed.
Brady is making mid-round TEs into Pro Bowlers by putting throws right on the dime.
Brady is turning Welker into a Pro Bowler.
Brady gave Moss his best season ever.
Brady’s passing allows no-name RBs to have 100-yard days vs Steelers D.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:36 am
Brady’s a good passer but not an all -time QB. He could not have played quarterback before 1990. He wouldn’t have lasted.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:37 am
Just saw that Dubs-Laker game replay of game 4 (?) playoffs the other night.
Sleeeeeeeepy got off!!!!!!
lmao
November 15th, 2011 at 11:38 am
And don’t forget New England gets away with murder. You know why Seymour just can’t help himself with these penalties? I can’t believe I didn’t think of this sooner. Because he used to get away with it in NE! Jumping snaps, late hits, etc. Refs looked the other way when he did it there.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:41 am
“LoL… he’s the only red-headed Italian in the world then…”
Not true a lot of Italians from northern Italy (Milan) are fair skinned and blue eyed people.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:41 am
Raiders 1.5pt fav’s… My moneys in. Later guys.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:42 am
Winfield was lost for the season.
CP is going to have a field day, shredding that secondary.
Heard it here first!
November 15th, 2011 at 11:42 am
Brien what is wrong with you?
Wilt dropped 60 points on Russell, and scored 50+ five other times against Russell.
Wilt took 55 rebounds in ONE GAME against Russell and had six other 40 rebound games against Russell.
Wilt was the man. Russell was great, but he was no Wilt.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:43 am
Sandusky44
I have told you many times today do not use the word “WE: when talking about the Raiders or the Raider fan base.
I will go back to Thursday nights posts and repost your lame crap if this continues.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:43 am
Italians are black as Dolomite.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:43 am
LIVE CHAT 2DAY.AS OPPOSED 2 WHAT ? DEAD CHAT…
November 15th, 2011 at 11:44 am
WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE are going to win 31-24 Sunday. Mark it.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:45 am
Oh, can someone ask steve a question for me? Or maybe someone here can answer.
When the Raiders “tryout” guys mid season, what exactly do they mean? For instance if it’s a DB, do they have him covering a player(P.S. player) with someone(Pryor) throwing the ball? Or are they just doing individual drills?
November 15th, 2011 at 11:46 am
Wilt benched 550 lbs in college….and then benched 500 lbs when he was almost sixty years old working out with Arnold!
Wilt nailed 500000000000000000000000000000000000000 women! Just in the 1960s!
November 15th, 2011 at 11:47 am
Minnesota is 2 hours ahead of Cali…
Funny stuff about Bol…I remember when Lenny Wilkens has said that they save money on air fare because they would just fax Manute Bol from city to city!
November 15th, 2011 at 11:47 am
This might be the first post from you in 3 years that wasnt complete horse sh!t.
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Sullivan44 Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 11:38 am
And don’t forget New England gets away with murder. You know why Seymour just can’t help himself with these penalties? I can’t believe I didn’t think of this sooner. Because he used to get away with it in NE! Jumping snaps, late hits, etc. Refs looked the other way when he did it there.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:48 am
135.Carl Weathers Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 11:45 am
Oh, can someone ask steve a question for me? Or maybe someone here can answer.
When the Raiders “tryout” guys mid season, what exactly do they mean? For instance if it’s a DB, do they have him covering a player(P.S. player) with someone(Pryor) throwing the ball? Or are they just doing individual drills?
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They put them in a room with a Nintendo and see how they fair at Tecmo-Bowl.
Now that Al is gone, they have updated to a Sega Genesis I heard.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:48 am
MistaBrown Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 11:47 am
This might be the first post from you in 3 years that wasnt complete horse sh!t.
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Sullivan44 Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 11:38 am
And don’t forget New England gets away with murder. You know why Seymour just can’t help himself with these penalties? I can’t believe I didn’t think of this sooner. Because he used to get away with it in NE! Jumping snaps, late hits, etc. Refs looked the other way when he did it there.
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I sadly have to agree.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:48 am
139.Dakota Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 11:48 am
135.Carl Weathers Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 11:45 am
Oh, can someone ask steve a question for me? Or maybe someone here can answer.
When the Raiders “tryout” guys mid season, what exactly do they mean? For instance if it’s a DB, do they have him covering a player(P.S. player) with someone(Pryor) throwing the ball? Or are they just doing individual drills?
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They put them in a room with a Nintendo and see how they fair at Tecmo-Bowl.
Now that Al is gone, they have updated to a Sega Genesis I heard.
LMFAO! And no, not the group…
November 15th, 2011 at 11:49 am
They put them in a room with a Nintendo and see how they fair at Tecmo-Bowl.
Now that Al is gone, they have updated to a Sega Genesis I heard.
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Joe Montana football had some cool azz graphics for a game made back in the days.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:49 am
We have to jump on them early and keep the pace up! Are we now having night practices so these guys don’t tire out so easy?
November 15th, 2011 at 11:50 am
Hey, at least it was better than the green hand held football game with just dashes as players! LOL…remember those?
November 15th, 2011 at 11:51 am
Who is more of a concern?
AP in the back field or Allen coming off the edge?
November 15th, 2011 at 11:52 am
130.Dakota Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 11:42 am
Brien what is wrong with you?
Wilt dropped 60 points on Russell, and scored 50+ five other times against Russell.
Wilt took 55 rebounds in ONE GAME against Russell and had six other 40 rebound games against Russell.
Wilt was the man. Russell was great, but he was no Wilt.
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Russell is a winner…best defensive player ever….first black coach to win and he was a player/coach doing it to smash ur pssu Lakers in LA in 1969 game 7!
Wilt wasnt a big time winner…as soon as Russell came to Beantown they became gods….OAKLAND native…agh!
November 15th, 2011 at 11:52 am
Seymour jumping offsides on 3rd and 4.
First Down!
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DMAC Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 11:51 am
Who is more of a concern?
AP in the back field or Allen coming off the edge?
November 15th, 2011 at 11:52 am
MistaBrown Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 11:47 am
This might be the first post from you in 3 years that wasnt complete horse sh!t.
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keep posting and maybe one day, one day, maybe, you too will have one post that isn’t complete horsesh!t.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:52 am
If I had to choose one, I will say Allen coming off the edge! Real good test for Valdheer!
November 15th, 2011 at 11:52 am
Minnesota is central standard time, two hours ahead of you West Coasters…
November 15th, 2011 at 11:53 am
Agree with this, MB.
Ob@ma 376 electoral votes
Romney 162 electoral votes.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:54 am
My personal favorite was the Sega Genesis NHL Hockey games in the early 1990s….LA KINGS BABY!
2nd has to be Nintendo’s Baseball Stars. First game I remember where you could build a franchise.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:54 am
DMAC,I SAY ALLEN.CARSON PALMER’S HEALTH IS AT STAKE…
November 15th, 2011 at 11:54 am
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 11:54 am
DMAC,I SAY ALLEN.CARSON PALMER’S HEALTH IS AT STAKE…
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Thats exactly what I was thinking.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:55 am
Fk you, your back on horse sh!t status.
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Sullivan44 Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 11:53 am
Agree with this, MB.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:55 am
OAKLAND native…agh
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I see where the delusion is coming from lol.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:55 am
Allen can be mitigated by putting a TE on the line to chip him. Green Bay was very effective with that strategy in their first game.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:56 am
Dakota Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 11:54 am
My personal favorite was the Sega Genesis NHL Hockey games in the early 1990s….LA KINGS BABY!
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NBA live of genesis was the schit! Especially when they came out w/ the signature dunks.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:56 am
Peymour Bish, your first post of the day is to me….again! Cant help yourself can you?
Not much has changed huh? Go take your ADHD meds and have a nap.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:56 am
Just put a case of beer on the sideline and Allen will be distracted.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:57 am
Come on, MB. Let’s hear you get behind your candidate. Mitt Mitt Mitt! lmfao.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:58 am
They have a “Best of” Sega Genesis game for the PS3 now…brought back some memories! But no sports games, I don’t believe!
November 15th, 2011 at 11:58 am
Mitt is a twit but at least ha has some business experience. Look what happens when you elect a marxist/community organizer.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:59 am
MistaBrown Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 11:56 am
Peymour Bish, your first post of the day is to me….again! Cant help yourself can you?
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Your not my first post today. I mean I know you are extremely mentally challenged but I thought you could at least count to one. Guess not. Jamista hits a new low.
November 15th, 2011 at 12:00 pm
67.Dakota Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 11:08 am
I’d say Montana and Elway are the relatively recent Jordan and Kobe of the NFL…..and Brady is more like the Clyde Drexler of the NFL….HOFer, All-time Great, Champion…but not quite in the top top rung.
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You clearly has mental issues. Tom brady is the best, check every stat, every record, every W-L %, he has 3-4 more years of a high level left too. Elway didn’t get the SB wins till he had the best RB in the game in Terrel davis at the time. He was old and that team rallied around him. Brady been to a superbowl when his “star WR” was troy brown. enough said. STFU.
Elway? really? elway!? omg. your delierious.
ELWAYS STATS WITH BRONCOS:
Total Offensive Yards: 54,882 yards (51,475 passing, 3,407 rushing)
Total Touchdowns: 334 (300 passing, 33 rushing, 1 receiving)
Total Plays: 8,027
Winning Percentage: .641 (148–82–1)
Career Passing Yards: 51,475
Career Completions: 4,123
Career Attempts: 7,250
Touchdown Passes: 300
TOM BRADY: (hope you have some free-time, it might take years to read this)
NFL recordsWins
Fewest starts to achieve 100 regular-season wins as a starter (131 starts)
Most consecutive wins, postseason: 10 (2001, 2003, 2004, 2005)
Most consecutive wins, regular season and postseason: 21 (2003–2004)
Most consecutive wins in regular-season home games: 31 (2006–2011)
Most seasons finishing 8–0 at home: 5 (2003, 2004, 2007, 2009, 2010)
Only quarterback to start and win 3 Super Bowls before his 28th birthday
Touchdowns
Most passing touchdowns, regular season: 50 (2007)
Most passing touchdowns, regular season and postseason combined: 56 (2007)
Most touchdown passes, month: 20 (October 2007)
Most passing touchdowns, quarter: 5 (second quarter vs. Tennessee, October 18, 2009)
Largest touchdown to interception differential: +42 (2007)
Highest touchdown to interception ratio, season: 9.0 to 1 (36 TD/4 INT, 2010)
Highest touchdown pass–interception ratio, career: 2.52-1 (260 TD/103 INT)
Most games with 3+ touchdown passes, regular season: 12 (2007)
Most consecutive games with 5+ touchdown passes: 2 (2007) (tied with Daunte Culpepper)
Most consecutive games with 3+ touchdown passes: 10 (2007)
Most consecutive games with 2+ touchdown passes: 13 (tied with Peyton Manning)
Most consecutive games with 2+ touchdown passes and no interceptions: 9 (2010, October 24 – 2011, September 12)
Most games with 1 touchdown pass and no interceptions, season: 14 (2010)
Most games with 2 touchdown passes and no interceptions, season: 11 (2010)
Most games with 3 touchdown passes and no interceptions, season: 8 (2007)
Most games with 4 touchdown passes and no interceptions, season: 5 (2007)
Most games with 4 touchdown passes and no interceptions, career: 12 – tied with Brett Favre
Most games with 5 touchdown passes and no interceptions, season: 3 (2007)
Most games with 5 touchdown passes and no interceptions, career: 4 – tied with Peyton Manning
Most games with 6 touchdown passes and no interceptions, career 2 – tied with Peyton Manning
Completions
Highest single-game completion percentage, postseason: 92.9% (vs. Jacksonville, January 12, 2008)[75]
Tied for most completions in a Super Bowl: 32 (XXXVIII)
Most career Super Bowl completions: 100 (XXXVI, XXXVIII, XXXIX, XLII)
Largest completion–interception ratio, season: 81.0-1 (324-4) (mininimum 150 completions), 2010
Most games with 20 completions and no interceptions, season: 10 (2007)
Most games with 30 completions and no interceptions, career: 9 – tied with Drew Brees
Most games with 30 completions and no interceptions, season: 5 (2007)
Most games with 50 pass attempts and no interceptions, career: 3
Yards
Largest passing yards–interception ratio, career: 337.3-1 (34,744-103) (mininimum 20,000 passing yards)
Largest passing yards–interception ratio, season: 975.0-1 (3,900-4) (mininimum 2,000 passing yards), 2010
Most games with 300 yards passing and no interceptions, season: 8 (2007)
Interception-free streaks and interception percentage
Most consecutive pass attempts to start a career without an interception: 162 (2000–2001)
Most consecutive pass attempts without an interception, regular season: 358 (2010, October 24 – 2011, September 12)
Third-lowest interception percentage (interceptions per attempt), career: 2.19% (Aaron Rodgers ranks first @ 1.99%; Neil O’Donnell is second @ 2.11%)
November 15th, 2011 at 12:00 pm
I remember getting Metal Gear for the Nintendo in like 1987 or 88….had no fkn clue how to play that game. It started out with a guy in a room with a pack of ciggs and no way out lol.
Gave up and went back to Mario Brothers.
November 15th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
Peymour, your 2nd post of the day is to me again?
Go pet your cat and get off my nuts!
November 15th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
MistaBrown Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 11:58 am
Mitt is a twit
……….
I know.
That’s why he’s going to lose! And you know it, too.
November 15th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
hwnrdr Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 11:58 am
They have a “Best of” Sega Genesis game for the PS3 now…brought back some memories! But no sports games, I don’t believe!
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Do they have it on 360?
November 15th, 2011 at 12:03 pm
MR, we could make a nice wager but I already know you dont pay your bets and you dont have the stones to meet any of us. So i’ll just rub your nose in sh!t next November, no prob.
November 15th, 2011 at 12:04 pm
MistaBrown Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 11:58 am
Mitt is a twit but at least ha has some business experience. Look what happens when you elect a marxist/community organizer.
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NEW YORK (MarketWatch) — U.S. stocks on Tuesday erased losses to climb modestly higher after reports cast a more positive-than-expected light on the U.S. economy, helping curb concern over Europe’s debt crisis.
“We continue to point out that the U.S. economy and the earnings season have been quite a bit better than expected,” said Brad Sorensen, director of market and sector analysis at the Schwab Center for Financial Research.
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These “marxist policies sure seem to help the capitialist economy. As opposed to the conservative policies which sink everything.
November 15th, 2011 at 12:05 pm
169.DMAC Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
hwnrdr Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 11:58 am
They have a “Best of” Sega Genesis game for the PS3 now…brought back some memories! But no sports games, I don’t believe!
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Do they have it on 360?
Not sure, I don’t see why not though?
November 15th, 2011 at 12:06 pm
166.Dakota Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 12:00 pm
I remember getting Metal Gear for the Nintendo in like 1987 or 88….had no fkn clue how to play that game. It started out with a guy in a room with a pack of ciggs and no way out lol.
Gave up and went back to Mario Brothers.
LOL!
November 15th, 2011 at 12:08 pm
How does it feel to be wrong on absolutely EVERYTHING Jamista? It must really suck. But at least Gingrich took hundreds of thousands of dollars from Fannie Mae and did nothing. Sounds like a conservative at work again!!
November 15th, 2011 at 12:08 pm
22 year old Elway and a 22 year old Tom Brady on the board….any GM with the #1 pick would take Elway. No question.
Next.
November 15th, 2011 at 12:10 pm
Hockey seems like a cool sport, but for some reason I’ve never been able to get into it. Don’t even know all the rules. There fights are great though.
November 15th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
Peymour is dying for my attention. He wants to convince me pres purp lips isnt a marxist incompetent buffoon and the recession was over in 2009.
Continue on Peymour everybody is on the edge of their seat waiting for your commentary!
lol
November 15th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
Can someone give me a good reason why I should still watch boxing? The sport is so corrupted and is starting to look like the WWF. ($ Mayweather, Ortiz)
November 15th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
Nope.
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DMAC Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
Can someone give me a good reason why I should still watch boxing?
November 15th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
MistaBrown Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
Peymour is dying for my attention.
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I wouldn’t call it dying for your attention. I would call it crapping all over you and your beliefs.
November 15th, 2011 at 12:17 pm
Ok Peymour, socialism is the answer because it hasnt failed everytime its been tried (see spain, greece, italy). A marxist incompetent buffon like barry hussein wil get re elected because we have lost 2 mil jobs since he took office.
The end
November 15th, 2011 at 12:21 pm
It’s a great day to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?!
Who’s better, Elway or Brady?
Having seen both of them (and other greats) play for years, in person, I have to say Elway’s the best/most talented QB I’ve ever seen on a field.
Elway was NEVER surrounded with the talent Brady has had at his disposal. If the Raiders acquired Elway in the 80’s, as Al tried to do, Elway would’ve probably at least doubled his Super Bowl trophies.
Brady’s an all-time great, no doubt…but Elway did everything Brady does, and then some with his legs. Elway elevated “average” pro players to greatness…Brady elevates above-average players to greatness. With a little help from upstairs too, ya dig.
Even with a stacked roster, and all those “hollow” records from the Randy Moss days (championship?), Brady’s not a better QB than Elway. Same stratosphere, but no way is he better.
November 15th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
178.DMAC Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
Can someone give me a good reason why I should still watch boxing? The sport is so corrupted and is starting to look like the WWF. ($ Mayweather, Ortiz)
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Tyson ruined the sport. It became a spectacle. Now everyone expects a knockout or they are dissapointed.
This last pacman fight was a good one to watch…of course the ending may not have been right but do you really think Marquez would get a close fight? You crazy? Pacman brings in too much money…
November 15th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
179.MistaBrown Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
Nope.
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DMAC Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
Can someone give me a good reason why I should still watch boxing?
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kirkland is exciting.. happily gets floored, then gets up and knocks them out
November 15th, 2011 at 12:23 pm
Brady’s an all-time great, no doubt…but Elway did everything Brady does, and then some with his legs.
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Terrible. I would take Brady over Elway any day. Elway finally won a championship when hes TEAM was great. Brady can win with Wes Welker as his ONLY WR…
November 15th, 2011 at 12:25 pm
ElkGRaider Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
178.DMAC Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
Can someone give me a good reason why I should still watch boxing? The sport is so corrupted and is starting to look like the WWF. ($ Mayweather, Ortiz)
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Tyson ruined the sport. It became a spectacle. Now everyone expects a knockout or they are dissapointed.
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Don’t expect knock outs, but I would love for a fair score card at the end of fights.
Maybe showing the score after every round would def. help.
What other sport hides there score to the end?
November 15th, 2011 at 12:26 pm
179.MistaBrown Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
Nope.
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DMAC Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
Can someone give me a good reason why I should still watch boxing?
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The Oscar winning performances
November 15th, 2011 at 12:28 pm
FK Top Rank and Golden Boy promotions. They might as well invite Vince McMan to promote.
November 15th, 2011 at 12:28 pm
What other sport hides there score to the end?
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Gymnastics?
X Games?
Problem with showing the cards is cans of beer would be thrown every other round instead of just at the end…
November 15th, 2011 at 12:29 pm
I’ll be back playerz.
November 15th, 2011 at 12:30 pm
MistaBrown Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 12:03 pm
MR, we could make a nice wager but I already know you dont pay your bets and you dont have the stones to meet any of us.
…..
lol. Who’s “us”?
November 15th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
arum doesnt want to make the manny/money fight anyway, knowing his boy will get counter punched and out classed for 12 rounds..that would be the end of his cash cow… I want to see money go shut up that loud brit Khan whos in there stable also
November 15th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
That would be funny if football were like boxing.
“Well, I have the Raiders winning the first quarter 10-0. The Raiders winning the second quarter 7-0. The Raiders winning the third quarter 13-0, and the Raiders winning the 4th quarter 3-0. Let’s go down to the refs for the final decisions.”
“Ladies and gentlemen, tonight’s winner by unanimous decision, the Denver Broncos 31, the Oakland Raiders 21.”
November 15th, 2011 at 12:34 pm
I stopped watching boxing since the Tyson years! Sorry, not interesting anymore!
November 15th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
POWER RANKINGS
16 (21) Raiders 5-4 Their long week against Minnesota off a short week doesn’t seem quite fair, does it? (Kuharsky)
Don’t remember him having a problem with the Raiders having a short week.
November 15th, 2011 at 12:37 pm
arum doesnt want to make the manny/money fight anyway
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I still like the pacman in that fight. Marquez simply knows Manny too well. He is built to take shots along with counterpunchin. I dont think Mayweather can take his shots (i.e. Mosley)…weak chin.
Arum didnt like the fact that the Money camp already has taken the May 5th date at the MGM without talkin the Arum first. Now they are claiming Arum doesnt want the fight? Can you negotiate first before claiming this? And they spit this story out a day after Manny JUST FOUGHT?!? Read between the lines…
Its all for show. They are just jockeying for position…
November 15th, 2011 at 12:42 pm
I think the heavyweight division of pro boxing has been the first true casualty of UFC style fighting. It’s just too slow for what fight fans want to see today. It’s too bad, too. Ali, Frazier, Foreman…Even Tyson and Hollyfield just 15 years ago. But there hasn’t been much since then. The fast pace of UFC style fighting has made heavyweight boxing boring to fight fans.
November 15th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
196.ElkGRaider Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 12:37 pm
arum doesnt want to make the manny/money fight anyway
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I still like the pacman in that fight. Marquez simply knows Manny too well. He is built to take shots along with counterpunchin. I dont think Mayweather can take his shots (i.e. Mosley)…weak chin.
Arum didnt like the fact that the Money camp already has taken the May 5th date at the MGM without talkin the Arum first. Now they are claiming Arum doesnt want the fight? Can you negotiate first before claiming this? And they spit this story out a day after Manny JUST FOUGHT?!? Read between the lines…
Its all for show. They are just jockeying for position…
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Maywaether doesnt help himself with his antics, bravado and outlandish claims.. and i agree his chin hasnt really been tested enough to know how he will respond, he did get chicken legs vs mosley,
if Manny hit him like manny caught hatton he may not get up..
But money bullied marquez, at will he took his shots an didnt even get hit for 12 rounds, i think money wins unamious, but i dont see them ever making the fight..
and as years go by they will always say the two needed to fight but never did..which would be a shame…
i was also extrmely dissapointed with David Haye in his title fight, thought we were about to see soemthing special.. nahhhhhh
November 15th, 2011 at 12:52 pm
Playoff predictor now points Raiders’ way
November, 15, 2011
Nov 152:00PM ETEmailPrintComments215By Bill WilliamsonESPN.com’s Insider playoff predictor has been illustrating just how fast change has occurred and how unpredictable the AFC West has been the past few weeks.
For the third straight week, the predictor projects a new winner in the division. This week it is Oakland. The predictor believes the Raiders will get in the playoffs at 8-8. It figures Oakland has a 53.3 percent chance to make the playoffs. Two weeks go, the predictor tabbed Kansas City, and last week San Diego was the projected division winner.
But Oakland is the clear favorite at this point. It is 5-4, and the other three teams in the division are 4-5. Oakland has the easiest remaining schedule in the division. This race if far from over, but Oakland is now in the driver’s seat
November 15th, 2011 at 12:57 pm
i was also extrmely dissapointed with David Haye in his title fight, thought we were about to see soemthing special.. nahhhhhh
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The fight will happen…but they both might be way past their prime when it does.
Money wont be able to counterpunch Manny without being hit. Marquez had to go offensive in that fight (Money would win an easy decision if he didnt).
You want to talk about fake? Talk about how Mosley didnt throw a hard punch after that. Watch the fight again. It was almost like an “oops…my bad” hit.
David Haye could talk it up but maaaaaaaan did he not show up. Not quick enough to get thru that jab. And how the heck does a heavyweight fighter use a JAB and win through a WHOLE fight. Who they heck wants to see that?!?
November 15th, 2011 at 12:58 pm
[Comment From loyalloyal: ]
Who do you see in the afc championship game?
Tuesday November 15, 2011 12:53 loyal
12:53 Steve Corkran: Patriots and Raiders.
November 15th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
[Comment From tk tk: ]
Your opinion, is mark davis interested in an LA move?
Tuesday November 15, 2011 12:54 tk
12:54 Steve Corkran: Yes, 100 percent.
November 15th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
202.inonewordraider Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
[Comment From tk tk: ]
Your opinion, is mark davis interested in an LA move?
Tuesday November 15, 2011 12:54 tk
12:54 Steve Corkran: Yes, 100 percent.
NO!
November 15th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
[Comment From Guest Guest: ]
In your opinion what is the best Raider team of all time?
Tuesday November 15, 2011 12:59 Guest
12:59 Steve Corkran: Marcus Allen, Howie Long and Kenny Stabler.
November 15th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
Boxing = Baseball
MMA = Football
I love/follow/watch my A’s, but i’d much rather prefer the Raiders
November 15th, 2011 at 1:01 pm
201.inonewordraider Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 12:58 pm
[Comment From loyalloyal: ]
Who do you see in the afc championship game?
Tuesday November 15, 2011 12:53 loyal
12:53 Steve Corkran: Patriots and Raiders.
This was something my brother predicted when we just lost to Buffalo! He also said that NE will lose to Buffalo right after!!! I should ask him when can I have the 6 winning numbers, huh?
November 15th, 2011 at 1:01 pm
Money may.. said.. someone is not as good a fighter anymore because someone is slowly getting off the juice…LOL… mayweather may actually sound more believable now.. I think paquiao has been on the juice.. before I thought mayweather just ducking paquiao. ..not anymore..
November 15th, 2011 at 1:01 pm
[Comment From Bob Bob: ]
Hearing lots of reports about Hue jackson being seen ‘acting a fool’ in the clubs. Have you heard any of these reports
November 15th, 2011 at 1:02 pm
I’m convinced everyone is on the juice, like Mr. Hand in Fast Times.
November 15th, 2011 at 1:02 pm
Floyd = over rated
Manny = Over rated juicer
Andre Ward = The Truth
November 15th, 2011 at 1:05 pm
207.ghostraiders Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 1:01 pm
Money may.. said.. someone is not as good a fighter anymore because someone is slowly getting off the juice…LOL… mayweather may actually sound more believable now.. I think paquiao has been on the juice.. before I thought mayweather just ducking paquiao. ..not anymore..
Which is why the question was raised…if pacquiao really believed he was the best, he would have taken that condition…there was a reason why he didn’t…but you can’t argue with a Paquiao fan/Filipino! Seriously…
November 15th, 2011 at 1:06 pm
210.mack-madden Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 1:02 pm
Floyd = over rated
Manny = Over rated juicer
Andre Ward = The Truth
I’d have to agree with this one!
November 15th, 2011 at 1:06 pm
Thanks for the updates Inone but we probably know the answers to the questions asked on there dont we?
November 15th, 2011 at 1:07 pm
You want to talk about fake? Talk about how Mosley didnt throw a hard punch after that. Watch the fight again. It was almost like an “oops…my bad” hit.
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Mosely is bizzare, dancing round on his little chicken legs, had him the second .. got dominated the rest of the way, a
nd with shanes fight with manny..well thats a disgrace, he ran ran an ran.. an touched gloves every round, im all for after the fight sportsmanship but during it rip his fckn head off..
November 15th, 2011 at 1:07 pm
195.DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
POWER RANKINGS
16 (21) Raiders 5-4 Their long week against Minnesota off a short week doesn’t seem quite fair, does it? (Kuharsky)
Don’t remember him having a problem with the Raiders having a short week.
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NFL.com rankings have us at 12
November 15th, 2011 at 1:08 pm
mayweather will school pacquiao like he does everyone. Pacquiao is an overrated “boxer” that’s why he has such a hard time with Marquez and lost his first fight with Morales both superior “boxers”. Morales was completely shot by the 2nd and 3rd fights. Add to that Pacuqiao didn’t look right versus Moseley or this last bout with Marquez
November 15th, 2011 at 1:10 pm
Morales kicked his arse and yes the last 2, Morales was already war beaten and down! I used to watch Pac Man when he was a fly weight, but don’t give a rats arse about him now!
November 15th, 2011 at 1:11 pm
Dakota Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 12:08 pm
22 year old Elway and a 22 year old Tom Brady on the board….any GM with the #1 pick would take Elway. No question.
Next.
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Take it a step further, 32 year old Elway and 32 year old Brady, Elway still gets picked.
Brady is an all time great, no one can deny this. But Hes not even the best QB of THIS generation. That would be Mr. Manning. Wonder why no one ever does the hypothetical “shoe on the other foot” and compare what Manning would do in the NE offense, as opposed to what would have happened if Brady was the Colts QB all this time.
November 15th, 2011 at 1:11 pm
210.mack-madden Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 1:02 pm
Floyd = over rated
Manny = Over rated juicer
Andre Ward = The Truth
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Oh love me some oakland native Andre Ward, he looks a bit like arien fostor haha.. but yeah kids the truth, hope he beats the schit out of froch.
p.s as much as people dispise money, hes all class at BOXING..that cant be disputed.
November 15th, 2011 at 1:11 pm
202.inonewordraider Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
[Comment From tk tk: ]
Your opinion, is mark davis interested in an LA move?
Tuesday November 15, 2011 12:54 tk
12:54 Steve Corkran: Yes, 100 percent.
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FK you steve!
November 15th, 2011 at 1:11 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 10:40 am
Live chat = bogus
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Truth..Strickly forr noobs…You Semi’s need not apply.
November 15th, 2011 at 1:12 pm
FK you steve!
+++++++
Told ya he was a dic head….
November 15th, 2011 at 1:13 pm
222.Thec07 Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 1:12 pm
FK you steve!
+++++++
Told ya he was a dic head….
Corkran is a hater! Of course he would say that!
November 15th, 2011 at 1:16 pm
Wonder why no one ever does the hypothetical “shoe on the other foot” and compare what Manning would do in the NE offense, as opposed to what would have happened if Brady was the Colts QB all this time.
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I can’t even imagine what Brady could have done if he had Marvin Harrison/Reggie Wayne his whole career, AND played his home games in a dome.
Whens the last time ANY QB threw 5 TDs in a quarter during a blizzard.
November 15th, 2011 at 1:17 pm
220.Method To My Madness Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 1:11 pm
202.inonewordraider Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
[Comment From tk tk: ]
Your opinion, is mark davis interested in an LA move?
Tuesday November 15, 2011 12:54 tk
12:54 Steve Corkran: Yes, 100 percent.
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FK you steve!
++++++++++++++++++
100 percent? Wow, I thought he would at least give Oakland a 1% chance!
Looks like I will eventually be able to go to that Lakers-Kings-Raiders triple header!
November 15th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
bcz24 Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 1:16 pm
Wonder why no one ever does the hypothetical “shoe on the other foot” and compare what Manning would do in the NE offense, as opposed to what would have happened if Brady was the Colts QB all this time.
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I can’t even imagine what Brady could have done if he had Marvin Harrison/Reggie Wayne his whole career, AND played his home games in a dome.
Whens the last time ANY QB threw 5 TDs in a quarter during a blizzard.
$$$$$$$$$$
Are you guys still talking about tecmo bowl?
November 15th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
dont forget the Galaxy..
LMAO
November 15th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
224.bcz24 Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 1:16 pm
Wonder why no one ever does the hypothetical “shoe on the other foot” and compare what Manning would do in the NE offense, as opposed to what would have happened if Brady was the Colts QB all this time.
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I can’t even imagine what Brady could have done if he had Marvin Harrison/Reggie Wayne his whole career, AND played his home games in a dome.
Whens the last time ANY QB threw 5 TDs in a quarter during a blizzard.
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Brady goes down and the team goes 11-5….a playoff worthy record for most teams.
Manning goes down and the Colts are in the huunt for Andrew Luck.
Case Closed.
November 15th, 2011 at 1:20 pm
blah blah blah.
Its the colts own fault to have a back-up worse than Boller.
November 15th, 2011 at 1:21 pm
225.Dakota Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 1:17 pm
220.Method To My Madness Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 1:11 pm
202.inonewordraider Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
[Comment From tk tk: ]
Your opinion, is mark davis interested in an LA move?
Tuesday November 15, 2011 12:54 tk
12:54 Steve Corkran: Yes, 100 percent.
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FK you steve!
++++++++++++++++++
100 percent? Wow, I thought he would at least give Oakland a 1% chance!
Looks like I will eventually be able to go to that Lakers-Kings-Raiders triple header!
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Trust me…you dont know my people from Norcali…someone will blow that place up…think people up here fkin around about the Raiders….LA is not a Raider town…get your own identity if you want a team…dont try and just steal something and pretend its yours
November 15th, 2011 at 1:21 pm
Blackmamba_20 Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
dont forget the Galaxy..
LMAO
$$$$$$$$$$
LA Sparks
November 15th, 2011 at 1:21 pm
223.hwnrdr Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 1:13 pm
222.Thec07 Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 1:12 pm
FK you steve!
+++++++
Told ya he was a dic head….
Corkran is a hater! Of course he would say that!
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Corkran just got an email from me…he will answer back
November 15th, 2011 at 1:22 pm
bcz24 Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 1:16 pm
Wonder why no one ever does the hypothetical “shoe on the other foot” and compare what Manning would do in the NE offense, as opposed to what would have happened if Brady was the Colts QB all this time.
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I can’t even imagine what Brady could have done if he had Marvin Harrison/Reggie Wayne his whole career, AND played his home games in a dome.
Whens the last time ANY QB threw 5 TDs in a quarter during a blizzard
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Cmon fellas. I hate the patriots to (do to that thing I will never talk about again)…but hate on Brady?!? He does his thing with NO NAMES! Ive never seen a guy so comfortable in the pocket. He has eyes in the back of his head. Give me Brady…you can have Manning and the annoyin audibles…
The one year he finally had a stud WR they damn near set every passing record and went undefeated!
November 15th, 2011 at 1:22 pm
case is not closed.
So Lebron left Cleveland and they are worst team in league. So Lebron is better than Kobe with your level of thinking? Even tho Kobe has the rings?
Idiot.
Brady is the best.
Stop coming up with horrible stats and stuff to make a case for Brady no being the best.
November 15th, 2011 at 1:24 pm
231.mack-madden Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 1:21 pm
Blackmamba_20 Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
dont forget the Galaxy..
LMAO
$$$$$$$$$$
LA Sparks
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Fk em all cept the Dodgers…they beat up SF in baseball i like that
November 15th, 2011 at 1:24 pm
Did yall happen too see “Charles Sims” from Houston vs Tulane game..
Damn the kid reminded me of Mcfadden the way he ran, and moved.
November 15th, 2011 at 1:25 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
Not true a lot of Italians from northern Italy (Milan) are fair skinned and blue eyed people.
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Those are the ones that the Moors didn’t get to via the Sicilians?
November 15th, 2011 at 1:26 pm
a 160 millie millie millie for Kemp…. Insane cash
November 15th, 2011 at 1:28 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 1:24 pm
231.mack-madden Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 1:21 pm
Blackmamba_20 Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
dont forget the Galaxy..
LMAO
$$$$$$$$$$
LA Sparks
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Fk em all cept the Dodgers…they beat up SF in baseball i like that
$$$$$$$$$$
Fck em all including the Dodgers and Angels.
For some unknown reason, i never had a problem with the clippers tho.
Q and D-miles was my scht for a couple years, along with odom, maggette, brand, dooling
November 15th, 2011 at 1:28 pm
TJ must be used in the 1st half again to win ,Bush is much more effective when the speed back gets a few early touches
November 15th, 2011 at 1:28 pm
238.Blackmamba_20 Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 1:26 pm
a 160 millie millie millie for Kemp…. Insane cash
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You think he can now afford an upgrade from Rihanna? Just sayin…
November 15th, 2011 at 1:30 pm
241.ElkGRaider Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 1:28 pm
238.Blackmamba_20 Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 1:26 pm
a 160 millie millie millie for Kemp…. Insane cash
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You think he can now afford an upgrade from Rihanna? Just sayin…
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Oh bro for sure, shes damaged goods. lol..
November 15th, 2011 at 1:34 pm
With all the debate about Bush and McFadden the last couple days. Interesting comparison between the two. IMO they are both just as important to this team. McFadden is the big play guy and Bush is the work horse. Question still remains. If you had to let one go today….Who would it be?
Darren McFadden 2008-2011
45 Games played
Rush 553-2627 yards/ Rec 116-1191 yards
20 Td’s Total / 13 Fum
Michael Bush 2008-2011
54 Games played
Rush 485-2155/Rec 68-690
19 Td’s Total/ 3 Fum
November 15th, 2011 at 1:34 pm
Raiders are staying in the town. Now that Al’s gone, more bay area investors willing to work with the Raiders. Stadium probably won’t be in Oakland, though. Hopefully it’s in the east bay, at least.
November 15th, 2011 at 1:35 pm
same time to say pacquiao is not an all time great is unfair because you can’t base his career off the last fight. All boxers that actually mix it up look old overnight. He’s fought some very good opponents many of which are much bigger than him. What he lacks in boxing ability he makes up in toughness and speed
November 15th, 2011 at 1:36 pm
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November 15th, 2011 at 1:40 pm
243.DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 1:34 pm
With all the debate about Bush and McFadden the last couple days. Interesting comparison between the two. IMO they are both just as important to this team. McFadden is the big play guy and Bush is the work horse. Question still remains. If you had to let one go today….Who would it be?
Darren McFadden 2008-2011
45 Games played
Rush 553-2627 yards/ Rec 116-1191 yards
20 Td’s Total / 13 Fum
Michael Bush 2008-2011
54 Games played
Rush 485-2155/Rec 68-690
19 Td’s Total/ 3 Fum
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Bush takes alot of Darrens red zone TD’s …
i love them both, but darren is my man (even through the injuries) id keep darren – superstar potential..
November 15th, 2011 at 1:41 pm
247.
Fair enough. I was surprised how close they were stat wise.
November 15th, 2011 at 1:43 pm
Yeah thats interesting how close the stats are, bush kind of goes unnoticed.. not often that bush doesnt get the yards like 13-14 carries for 40 odd yards, he always grinds out a decent total when given the oppurtunity..
lets just say someone will pay him at years end.
November 15th, 2011 at 1:45 pm
I just hope it’s us.
But when Bush gets the start he puts up McFadden number minus the 60 yards TD.
November 15th, 2011 at 1:48 pm
Ok, I’ll end this…F Brady, F Manning, and definitley F Horse Teeth Elway!!!
November 15th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
McFadden is a complete RB when healthy. Bush is a deserving starter and in all cases were fortunate to have such a great duo. Panthers have Williams/Stewart …. Giants have Jacobs/Bradhsaw ….. its concievable that Bush could stay as long as we give him a solid contract. The organization gave him a chance drafting him 4th round after he broke his leg in the midst of a heisman season for his senior season that he fully missed. He might be working a carwash if it weren’t for AL.
November 15th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
This exchange grabbed my attention:
12:53 Comment From loyal:
Who do you see in the afc championship game?
12:53 Steve Corkran: Patriots and Raiders.
Right on, Steve-O. I love it! And I think there’s a good chance he’s right. When we get McFadden back with Palmer flinging these deep rainbows, Bush plowing into the secondary. Moore and Ford scorching the earth. And, hopefully, the defense rising to the challenge like we know it’s capable of when it plays with heart. We will be dangerous. Very, very dangerous.
I recall going into that Pats game I was worried about getting embarrassed. But as I was watching it, I came to this realization: we were the more talented team … and Palmer brings us another dimension. We didn’t get the win that day. A couple of breaks went their way and we had a couple of turnovers at inopportune times. But I trust my eyes when I watch a game more than the outcome. The Patriots have Brady, which is huge. But we have the better roster top-to-bottom.
November 15th, 2011 at 1:50 pm
The organization gave him a chance drafting him 4th round after he broke his leg in the midst of a heisman season for his senior season that he fully missed. He might be working a carwash if it weren’t for AL.
I agree with that!
November 15th, 2011 at 1:51 pm
Home games the fans need to bring out the signs. So not only will he see the support but so will those who write the checks.
November 15th, 2011 at 1:56 pm
Bill Russell was listed at 6′9 1/2. Like Kevin Garnett listed at 6′11″. Both over 7′. Remember what Chamberlain said, “no one roots for Goliath.” Met Russell once when he came into my dad’s store. He used the same line I used many years later when then Alcinder came into a store I worked at in Westwood. “Only thing we have to fit you are socks and belts.” He bought a box of black socks.
November 15th, 2011 at 1:58 pm
i know him an mcfadden are good friends. room mates etc.
I saw a thing on mcfadden once and he said Bush was really into cartoons and Darren preference was discovery and sharks an stuff.they fought for the remote. lmao hes a funny dude..
November 15th, 2011 at 2:01 pm
Both of them seem like good guys. You never hear anything bad about them.
November 15th, 2011 at 2:01 pm
243.DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 1:34 pm
With all the debate about Bush and McFadden the last couple days. Interesting comparison between the two. IMO they are both just as important to this team. McFadden is the big play guy and Bush is the work horse. Question still remains. If you had to let one go today….Who would it be?
Darren McFadden 2008-2011
45 Games played
Rush 553-2627 yards/ Rec 116-1191 yards
20 Td’s Total / 13 Fum
Michael Bush 2008-2011
54 Games played
Rush 485-2155/Rec 68-690
19 Td’s Total/ 3 Fum
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Bush was hand fed about 7-10 of his TDs by drives dominated by McFadden.
Coaching staff seems to think because one guy is fat it makes him a better goal line runner. Total BS.
November 15th, 2011 at 2:01 pm
The Raiders aren’t leaving The Bay Area again… Nonsense…You might see the L.A. Chargers … But you won’t see the LA Raiders again…. That was Al’s biggest mistake…not to mention the league would rather have a diffrent team downthere ..my guess would be Chargers or Rams.. And Maybe the Jags… The Raiders belong in Oakland…
November 15th, 2011 at 2:02 pm
New practice squad addition: DB Terrail Lambert, Notre Dame. Spent some time with the Saints.
November 15th, 2011 at 2:03 pm
Mamba already said that….my bad.
November 15th, 2011 at 2:03 pm
Dakota
Do you not like Bush? IMO I think we are alot better with both. No doubt McFadden gets it done. But so does Bush.
November 15th, 2011 at 2:05 pm
263.DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 2:03 pm
Dakota
Do you not like Bush? IMO I think we are alot better with both. No doubt McFadden gets it done. But so does Bush.
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No, I like him….love him as the backup. Just not buying into the we would be fine with Bush so get rid of McFadden argument that goes on in here.
November 15th, 2011 at 2:05 pm
McFadden to me was the best RB in the league through the first 6 games this season. Bush is also excellent. Was very happy when we got him in the 4th round. Both can pick up tough yards, punish defenders and do damage in the passing game.
McFadden’s explosiveness makes him the hands-down winner though.
Sorry, MB. Love ya and you’ve been great whenever given a shot to start in your career here.
November 15th, 2011 at 2:06 pm
Sadly the A’s will probably be a casualty of the Great Wall Street Heist. I imagine they’ll move to another locale. West Coast baseball is just suffering right now and there’s really not enough room for two MLB teams in the bay area. But the Raiders are staying put. Probably a Fremont stadium, keeping the Oakland Raider name.
November 15th, 2011 at 2:06 pm
Bush can be easily replaced. McFadden is something special.
November 15th, 2011 at 2:08 pm
NBA players just missed their first paycheck….I expect them to cave within the next 2 weeks lol.
November 15th, 2011 at 2:09 pm
lol Dakota, i mean were right tho,
darren seems to be fine in pucnhing them in from red zone situations..
November 15th, 2011 at 2:09 pm
With Palmer fully acclimated, Hue dialing up gems, McFadden and Bush and even Jones manning the ground game, the o-line playing at an elite level, Ford blowing past people and Moore snatching balls out of the sky, this is an offense that is going to be capable of putting up 40+ on anyone come playoff time.
November 15th, 2011 at 2:11 pm
Chris in NY Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 2:09 pm
With Palmer fully acclimated, Hue dialing up gems, McFadden and Bush and even Jones manning the ground game, the o-line playing at an elite level, Ford blowing past people and Moore snatching balls out of the sky, this is an offense that is going to be capable of putting up 40+ on anyone come playoff time.
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No luv for DHBizzle?
lol
November 15th, 2011 at 2:11 pm
Walter McFadden signed with Bengals lol. these two teams are hilarious:
Raiders bengals:
TJ
CP3
Ndukwe
Hue
Chuck Bres
Blackstock
Bengals raiders:
Thomas Howard
Walter McFadden
Gibril Wilson
think theres even more?
November 15th, 2011 at 2:12 pm
Is TH starting in Cincy?
November 15th, 2011 at 2:12 pm
If Bush and McFadden are really good friends, and Bush understands that he will be given his opportunities during the course of the year, and the Raiders pony up and give him a decent contract and we make a playoff run this season I think Bush might come back.
If not, then we just sign another RB….usually a lot of them are available in the offseason. Not a big loss. If we ship out McFadden, we will not find another McFadden for a decade or two.
November 15th, 2011 at 2:13 pm
Al’s Mark is no dummy. If a shiny new stadium opportunity arises (his daddy’s dream), Mark will be interested…no matter where it’s at.
Sure, he’d be more interested in certain places over others, but there’s no way Mark isn’t looking at the LA stadium plans. A predominately private stadium concern would probably be able to deliver what they promise, too…as opposed to the politicians who screwed it all up in LA, and in Oakland twice.
Mark MUST listen to stadium plans, even if it means they’re outside the Bay Area…otherwise, he wouldn’t be doing his job. If the city of Oakland, if the East Bay, want to keep the Raiders, they need to get with the times. There are ways to get things done…and it takes bold strokes to do it…but, it’s time. The Raiders are going to get a new stadium. Somewhere.
November 15th, 2011 at 2:13 pm
Thomas Howard has been playing well for that cincy defense.
November 15th, 2011 at 2:14 pm
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No luv for DHBizzle?
lol
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Said the other day. It wont be long and it will be DHB who?
November 15th, 2011 at 2:14 pm
Dakota Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 2:12 pm
If Bush and McFadden are really good friends, and Bush understands that he will be given his opportunities during the course of the year, and the Raiders pony up and give him a decent contract and we make a playoff run this season I think Bush might come back.
If not, then we just sign another RB….usually a lot of them are available in the offseason. Not a big loss. If we ship out McFadden, we will not find another McFadden for a decade or two.
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I think Bush and DMAC are cool w/ each other, but Bush wants to be a starter in the league. Probably signs elsewhere. Just my thoughts.
November 15th, 2011 at 2:18 pm
278.DMAC Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 2:14 pm
I think Bush and DMAC are cool w/ each other, but Bush wants to be a starter in the league. Probably signs elsewhere. Just my thoughts.
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I would be happy for him. I stood up for him when the Raiders tried to guilt him into becoming a FB in 2008 I believe. The man was a great college RB and they wanted him to take one of the more inglorious positions in football? Ruin his ability to score a big contract? Do things he is uncomfortable with, like blocking?
That was a joke, and if he needs to score his $$ and wants his shot at being a #1, I will be glad for him…..as long as it isn’t with SD, Dungver, SF, NE or KC.
November 15th, 2011 at 2:18 pm
Hope Bush looks at how green the grass is for those who left this season.
November 15th, 2011 at 2:21 pm
Dakota Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 2:08 pm
NBA players just missed their first paycheck….I expect them to cave within the next 2 weeks lol.
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Is that why David Stern’s losing it?
November 15th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
WTF?
MBush29?? C’mon, Dakota…what is it that lets you overlook that Bush’s and DMC’s stats are almost the same? Why can’t you admit that Bush doesn’t make us suffer a drop-off in productivity when DMC goes down??
No matter how good DMC is…MBush29 is a starter-quality RB, and he gets it done when he’s in there.
Replacing 4.5 yds per carry, with soft and reliable hands out of the backfield, isn’t as easily done as said. If DMC were to miss the rest of the season (thankfully, he won’t – gulp), MBush would be the workhorse back to ride when called upon. He answers the call the way a starter does.
The Raiders are EXTREMELY fortunate to have Bush with DMC out…for one game, or for six games.
November 15th, 2011 at 2:25 pm
raiderinparadise Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 2:11 pm
Walter McFadden signed with Bengals lol. these two teams are hilarious:
Raiders bengals:
TJ
CP3
Ndukwe
Hue
Chuck Bres
Blackstock
Bengals raiders:
Thomas Howard
Walter McFadden
Gibril Wilson
think theres even more?
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TAYLOR MAYS AND REY MAUALUGA!!!!
Come on down. We’ll take em.
November 15th, 2011 at 2:25 pm
Dakota Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 2:18 pm
278.DMAC Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 2:14 pm
I think Bush and DMAC are cool w/ each other, but Bush wants to be a starter in the league. Probably signs elsewhere. Just my thoughts.
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I would be happy for him. I stood up for him when the Raiders tried to guilt him into becoming a FB in 2008 I believe. The man was a great college RB and they wanted him to take one of the more inglorious positions in football? Ruin his ability to score a big contract? Do things he is uncomfortable with, like blocking?
That was a joke, and if he needs to score his $$ and wants his shot at being a #1, I will be glad for him…..as long as it isn’t with SD, Dungver, SF, NE or KC.
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I agree and backed MB at the time as well. Playing FB and playing RB are completely different positions with very few overlapping skills. A true FB is more like a MLB or offensive lineman.
Trying to move Bush to FB was just one of those dumb Tom Cable ideas. Not quite as bad as the Lechler-Seabass Harlem Globetrotters fake FG, but certainly not one of his better calls.
November 15th, 2011 at 2:25 pm
David Stern is losing it? He is simply using scary language to try and manipulate the players into panicking and taking the deal. The owners have hundreds of millions in the bank, and they have the ability to think long term. The players are trying to make enough money right now to secure their families. They miss a few paychecks and it will be full on panic time for the players.
I am rooting for the players in this. A flexible salary cap benefits the Lakers.
November 15th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
CorkOnTheNFL Steve Corkran
#Raiders signed defensive back Terrail Lambert their practice squad. That gives them the maximum neight players on the practice squad.
November 15th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
OK, Dakota, he’s merely using “scary language”. Why? If the players couldn’t last after missing a few paydays, as you just implied, wouldn’t that be all the leverage he needs?
November 15th, 2011 at 2:27 pm
Blackmamba_20 Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 1:26 pm
a 160 millie millie millie for Kemp…. Insane cash
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#2 or 3 in BA, #1 in HR’s, #1 in RBI’s, top 5 in SB, golden glove. Now let’s see how he plays now that he’s paid
November 15th, 2011 at 2:27 pm
A Notre Dame player. Ndukwe and Lambert, 2 golden domers.
November 15th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
When the Raiders were in Los Angeles, Mark and Al Davis lived in a couple of condoS in Marina Del Ray. So Mark is well aquainted with the better parts of L.A. Condo on the ocean, condo in Palm Desert.
November 15th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
If Bush is like other human beings, he will sign with whoever offers him the most money.
November 15th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
I personally would like to see Jano get another chance. That would be great to see him break a tackle and run one in from 20 yards out.
November 15th, 2011 at 2:30 pm
282.HayesDaze37 Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
WTF?
MBush29?? C’mon, Dakota…what is it that lets you overlook that Bush’s and DMC’s stats are almost the same? Why can’t you admit that Bush doesn’t make us suffer a drop-off in productivity when DMC goes down??
No matter how good DMC is…MBush29 is a starter-quality RB, and he gets it done when he’s in there.
Replacing 4.5 yds per carry, with soft and reliable hands out of the backfield, isn’t as easily done as said. If DMC were to miss the rest of the season (thankfully, he won’t – gulp), MBush would be the workhorse back to ride when called upon. He answers the call the way a starter does.
The Raiders are EXTREMELY fortunate to have Bush with DMC out…for one game, or for six games.
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I said I love him as our backup. i said I would be happy for him if he wanted to start somewhere else.
But he is easier to replace than a McFadden. You are a smart guy. You must recognize that.
November 15th, 2011 at 2:30 pm
HayesDaze37 Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 2:13 pm
Al’s Mark is no dummy. If a shiny new stadium opportunity arises (his daddy’s dream), Mark will be interested…no matter where it’s at.
Sure, he’d be more interested in certain places over others, but there’s no way Mark isn’t looking at the LA stadium plans. A predominately private stadium concern would probably be able to deliver what they promise, too…as opposed to the politicians who screwed it all up in LA, and in Oakland twice.
Mark MUST listen to stadium plans, even if it means they’re outside the Bay Area…otherwise, he wouldn’t be doing his job. If the city of Oakland, if the East Bay, want to keep the Raiders, they need to get with the times. There are ways to get things done…and it takes bold strokes to do it…but, it’s time. The Raiders are going to get a new stadium. Somewhere.
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Do you really think that the Raiders’ problems getting politicians, and, furthermore, voters in their corner had nothing to do with who the Raiders’ owner was?
November 15th, 2011 at 2:31 pm
No matter how good DMC is…MBush29 is a starter-quality RB, and he gets it done when he’s in there.
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so would you sign resign Bush with Taiwan as a perfect compliment back and trade DMAC for a 1st to draft an impact DT or CB?
November 15th, 2011 at 2:31 pm
272.raiderinparadise Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 2:11 pm
Walter McFadden signed with Bengals lol. these two teams are hilarious:
Raiders bengals:
TJ
CP3
Ndukwe
Hue
Chuck Bres
Blackstock
Bengals raiders:
Thomas Howard
Walter McFadden
Gibril Wilson
think theres even more?
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Yeah bruce Grads LOL ..
November 15th, 2011 at 2:31 pm
FYI terrail Lambert ran a 4.3 at combine 2 years ago.
November 15th, 2011 at 2:32 pm
Can’t agree with some of you who say bush is replaceable, honostly can’t compare him to any other back in the league with his skills, can you????. I can think of some rb’s his size and weight but can they catch, pass, cut, pumbble lb’s and safeties ,qb protect and turn on the boost in open field. Dude don’t act like a lil biaatttcch diva either.
Hope he can look at what namdi, z. Miller and gallary did when it came to choose, they made the wrong choice. I hope he knows he can be part of something special years to come and accepts our offer. Calling it that he has a better game than AD!!!
Dmac is still the best though.
November 15th, 2011 at 2:33 pm
The owners are going to hurt too. Several sponsors are withholding payments to teams. Stern made a big mistake. The players have the attorney’s from both sides of the NFL strike. David Bois joined the players legal team. Expert in anti-trust law. Stern overreached and a fairer deal will come out of this. They tried to scr*w the players and it didn’t work.
November 15th, 2011 at 2:34 pm
287.Sullivan44 Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
OK, Dakota, he’s merely using “scary language”. Why? If the players couldn’t last after missing a few paydays, as you just implied, wouldn’t that be all the leverage he needs?
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Stern is simply using all of the leverage he has at his disposal.
November 15th, 2011 at 2:35 pm
Stern’s losing it, Dakota. He’s lost his composure.
November 15th, 2011 at 2:36 pm
Bush is replacebale only IF we draft Jonas Gray RB from Notre Dame.
November 15th, 2011 at 2:36 pm
Coaching staff seems to think because one guy is fat it makes him a better goal line runner. Total BS.
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LMAO
November 15th, 2011 at 2:37 pm
nah, but for real, I want Bush back!
Hue always talks highly about Bush, trust me he will fight to re-structure DHB deal to get Bush.
November 15th, 2011 at 2:38 pm
I have ONE problem with DMC…his health. He could be Jim Brown, or Bo Jackson, for that matter…if he’s not on the field, he’s not a football star for long.
DMC is a special (read: fast) talent…and a wonderful weapon to have. When he’s on the field. And when he’s not, the Raiders running game does not collapse. That’s because MBush29 is just as good as DMC, just different.
I wouldn’t at all be surprised if MBush29 and DMC have similar numbers even at the ends of their careers.
November 15th, 2011 at 2:40 pm
Not much to restructure in DHB’s deal!
November 15th, 2011 at 2:40 pm
Sandusky44
You are no longer allowed to use the word “WE: when reffing to the Raiders or our fab base!
Do I need to go back into Thursday nights posts and show you posting for the Chargers and saying this is where the Raiders melt down?
November 15th, 2011 at 2:40 pm
We need to trade for Chris Long from the Rams. That way we could have a Long Wiz.
November 15th, 2011 at 2:41 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 2:30 pm
HayesDaze37 Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 2:13 pm
Al’s Mark is no dummy. If a shiny new stadium opportunity arises (his daddy’s dream), Mark will be interested…no matter where it’s at.
Sure, he’d be more interested in certain places over others, but there’s no way Mark isn’t looking at the LA stadium plans. A predominately private stadium concern would probably be able to deliver what they promise, too…as opposed to the politicians who screwed it all up in LA, and in Oakland twice.
Mark MUST listen to stadium plans, even if it means they’re outside the Bay Area…otherwise, he wouldn’t be doing his job. If the city of Oakland, if the East Bay, want to keep the Raiders, they need to get with the times. There are ways to get things done…and it takes bold strokes to do it…but, it’s time. The Raiders are going to get a new stadium. Somewhere.
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Do you really think that the Raiders’ problems getting politicians, and, furthermore, voters in their corner had nothing to do with who the Raiders’ owner was?
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No matter what, you dont move the Raiders. That would be like moving the Packers orthe Cowboys. Moving them to LA was a mistake in itself. That’s where all the negative connotations stemmed from in regards to the fans and behavior. Yeah, the Raiders were looked at as the bad guys Pre-LA. But nothing close to what has become since. That town birthed the “Thug” Raider reputation.
The Raiders are Oakland.
November 15th, 2011 at 2:42 pm
I think the days of the Raiders getting a bright new billion dollar stadium are over.
Not only is California broke, but the US has also squandered its wealth.
If China wants professional football, then there might be a chance for Mark to make a move.
November 15th, 2011 at 2:42 pm
Backs are a dime a dozen you never see them drafted that high anymore unless its a rare superstar like AP or DMAC.
We will draft a guy in the third round next year to replace Bush like we drafted 2 CB’s last year and the year before to replace Nnamdi.
November 15th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
Restructure DHB’s deal? DHB made all of his money in year 2…..when there was no salary cap. I think DHB has a pretty pedestrian payment schedule for his remaining years. DHB made like $22 million in 2010. Can’t get that money back.
November 15th, 2011 at 2:44 pm
308.DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 2:40 pm
We need to trade for Chris Long from the Rams. That way we could have a Long Wiz.
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Lets go for Jake Long instead.
Man, Howie’s son has not lived up….did have his best game ever a few weeks ago though.
November 15th, 2011 at 2:45 pm
Well we simply ask DHB for 500,000k for every dropped pass.
November 15th, 2011 at 2:47 pm
“The Raiders are Oakland.”
To you me and our fan base yes they are.
But no one is doing anything here in the Bay Area to keep them here.
The only hope we have of them staying past their lease is if we share a stadium with the 9ers. If someone was building a stadium in the Bay Area right now I would see it differently but I doubt we renew our lease when it runs out in 2013.
So its either LA or Santa Clara.
November 15th, 2011 at 2:47 pm
How many drops does DHB have this year? How many do the other WR’s have?? DHB hasn’t been a problem.
November 15th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
DHB will make a little over 1 million next year. No reason to cut him at that price. Like Dakota said he already got paid.
November 15th, 2011 at 2:49 pm
“How many drops does DHB have this year? How many do the other WR’s have?? DHB hasn’t been a problem.”
No he has not been a problem and he has played well this year but he is “Obviously” in Hues dog house right now.
November 15th, 2011 at 2:49 pm
Wimbley, Kelly, Routt, Huff and McClain should be the main targets for restructured deals. I think Kelly has already restructured. Wimbley and Huff are stealing.
Wimbley’s contract should have been cut in half when he let Teblow burn him late in the game on the same play he got us with in the first half.
Wimbley is a one-trick pony and a liability against the run….does not deserve that much money.
November 15th, 2011 at 2:49 pm
Raiders do not need Miami’s Long, Mr. Vehldeer is an excellent LT.
November 15th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
18.Sullivan44 Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 10:32 am
I think our players just need to realize that it’s ok to put their foot on an opponent’s throat. It’s ok to win. Really, guys, it is. There’s no law against winning football games. Your wife isn’t going to divorce you for winning a football game. It’s ok, really. You can beat the turd out of teams that you know you’re better than. I promise you guys, everything will be ok. It’s sports. That’s the object of the game. Some of these guys are just so used to losing, it’s almost as if they think it’s impolite to win.
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I have to say, I agree 100% with the train of thought you are expresing with these posts.
I look at this team and think there i NO REASON we should have to worry about teams like Minnesota; on the road or not, and yet…i’m worried cuz of what i saw with Denver (twice), Cleveland (shoul’ve won going away) Jets, heck EVERY GAME including San Diego…should’ve dominated.
I too, i’m sick of still being worried when we’re up two TD’s. Finish it and add on. Nothing wrong with that.
November 15th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
1- Somebody mentioned Mat Millen as the GM in todays chat. Pray that it doesnt happen. He destroyed the lions for several years as a GM, bad picks. Some hated Al Davis as a GM now they are suggesting Mat Millen?
2- Whatever happens during the rest of the season, if raiders collapse or not, will determine McFadden status. If the raiders collapse, trade him for a 1st round pick, and sign Bush. By far a better decision personnel wise.
November 15th, 2011 at 2:53 pm
JT, I heard Reggie Mckenzie, from Packers, is being interviewed for GM position. It would be great to hire someone from a team like the Packers who know what they are doing. Just think about it, the Raiders will be run like a real NFL franchise.
November 15th, 2011 at 2:54 pm
Matt Millen as our GM? I would rather have a homeless person fart in my face.
November 15th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
Palmer’s remaining contract is going to have to be dealt with too…..I know we lose Campbell’s $5 million off the books, and we also save money by not having a first rounder next year, but he makes a ton. Not sure who else is a FA other than Bush…..Branch?
November 15th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
Come on Dakota, Millen did a fine job as GM:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/96421-the-10-worst-draft-picks-of-the-matt-millen-era/page/2
November 15th, 2011 at 2:59 pm
did i just read that bush can QB protect??
Lets say he hasnt quite mastered that yet
November 15th, 2011 at 2:59 pm
# Albert Bigelow Paine is your friend Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 2:53 pm
JT, I heard Reggie Mckenzie, from Packers, is being interviewed for GM position. It would be great to hire someone from a team like the Packers who know what they are doing. Just think about it, the Raiders will be run like a real NFL franchise.
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That would be great. The packers have a top notch program. What about promoting one of the raiders current scouts or director of scouting. They know what type of player Al Davis liked.
November 15th, 2011 at 3:00 pm
Brahs, I’m totally down with the Raiders moving the S&B party to Farmer’s Field.
I’ve already got my luxury box dialed in, they’re modifying the buffet table so I can mount the PARTYDUDE 8000 and it’s only a few block from Spearmint Rhino.
Talk about free livin on drinkin.
Hopefully the boys move out of that Alameda dump and bring the party to Downtown.
After hour pajama jammy jams at the Beeecham Bro Down Pad will go off. Already got 13 lbs of Cheetos in the pantry reserved for Cooper Carlisle.
Homeboy likes to get his nibble on, if you know what I’m saying WHUT WHUT
November 15th, 2011 at 3:00 pm
315.Silverandblack666 Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 2:47 pm
“The Raiders are Oakland.”
To you me and our fan base yes they are.
But no one is doing anything here in the Bay Area to keep them here.
The only hope we have of them staying past their lease is if we share a stadium with the 9ers. If someone was building a stadium in the Bay Area right now I would see it differently but I doubt we renew our lease when it runs out in 2013.
So its either LA or Santa Clara.
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LA or Santa Clara wont happen….Santa Clara aint gonna have a damn thing trust that and LA wont happen for the Raiders…NFL dont want themthere and the LA city officials not gonna do with schit again cuz you know what ruthless fools gonna hit that up since its in the middle of LA
November 15th, 2011 at 3:02 pm
329.Master Beeecham Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 3:00 pm
Brahs, I’m totally down with the Raiders moving the S&B party to Farmer’s Field.
I’ve already got my luxury box dialed in, they’re modifying the buffet table so I can mount the PARTYDUDE 8000 and it’s only a few block from Spearmint Rhino.
Talk about free livin on drinkin.
Hopefully the boys move out of that Alameda dump and bring the party to Downtown.
After hour pajama jammy jams at the Beeecham Bro Down Pad will go off. Already got 13 lbs of Cheetos in the pantry reserved for Cooper Carlisle.
Homeboy likes to get his nibble on, if you know what I’m saying WHUT WHUT
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Dump? Look btch…that is their home…all the stuff built up here that you cats copy comes from up North….you want a fake rendition of the Raiders….get your own identity btch. no tailgating just bunch of plastic fake hollywood coked out dummies where 80 pct of the crowd doesnt know schit……no way and fk the LA Raiders
November 15th, 2011 at 3:03 pm
328.JT Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 2:59 pm
That would be great. The packers have a top notch program. What about promoting one of the raiders current scouts or director of scouting. They know what type of player Al Davis liked.
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Why would we want someone to come in and look for the same players Al looked for? Has that worked in the past 27-28 years?
November 15th, 2011 at 3:04 pm
What up fellas?..
November 15th, 2011 at 3:05 pm
As much as I don’t like Brien, I would love to see him beat the crap out of Beeecham. Afterwards, I would call the cops and rat him out.
November 15th, 2011 at 3:05 pm
Home= place of origin…..guess what’s home? Oakland for the Raiders….although LA has some cats who dig the Raiders LA iant their home. There isnt a special connection with that venue…..Rams are LA’s real team but you can settle for being bored watching the Chargers on sundays
November 15th, 2011 at 3:06 pm
334.Albert Bigelow Paine is your friend Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 3:05 pm
As much as I don’t like Brien, I would love to see him beat the crap out of Beeecham. Afterwards, I would call the cops and rat him out.
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Wimpelow, shut up you punk…all summer you talked as if you were gonna meet me at the game nov 6th…your punk ass wont show…bloggers met me…you?
November 15th, 2011 at 3:07 pm
Re-Post
This is where the versatility of Marcel Reece pays off in a game like today. I expect to see Rock a couple plays on offense. Marcel watchin one eye on Allen and the other one Carson will help pocket protection.
Then there’s this:
That puts the onus for improvement squarely on cornerback Cedric Griffin, whose comeback from a second reconstructive knee surgery – he has torn the anterior cruciate ligament in each leg – has been a struggle. He hasn’t missed any time, but his production and ability to stick with opposing top receivers has been spotty.
http://www.vikings.com/news/article-1/Packers-Pose-Big-Challenge-For-Vikings-Secondary/72eb9b0a-ad02-4705-a998-d311c8aa3d78
Source
Make what you will out of it, Chris Cook is not in the plans of the team, there best corner isn’t playing. I’d like to see Denarius gets some touches. I can see a reverse or two. He’ll blow by Cedric Griffin, it’s a matchup to take advantage. Our speed is a great asset, here, so is our muscle.
Minny’s OLine is flaky. Johnson does not do a sufficient job protecting the blindside of Minnesota’s quarterbacks. More often than not it is his frame standing over his fallen quarterback as he allows another sack, Hutchinson isn’t the force he was. Herrera go on and on. Houston and Bryant should have a sack a piece.
November 15th, 2011 at 3:07 pm
B@uce since there is nothing on the table right now to keep us here when the lease expires what do you think is going to happen?
November 15th, 2011 at 3:07 pm
333.DeuceDeuce Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 3:04 pm
What up fellas?..
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Tuesday….practice and all….hope gameplan for Sunday is roughly the same as the SD game….should be blueprint for season
November 15th, 2011 at 3:08 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 3:06 pm
334.Albert Bigelow Paine is your friend Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 3:05 pm
As much as I don’t like Brien, I would love to see him beat the crap out of Beeecham. Afterwards, I would call the cops and rat him out.
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Wimpelow, shut up you punk…all summer you talked as if you were gonna meet me at the game nov 6th…your punk ass wont show…bloggers met me…you?
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I’m not stupid. Why would I want to go to jail and ruin what was a good time? Some of us have brains.
November 15th, 2011 at 3:08 pm
338.Silverandblack666 Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 3:07 pm
B@uce since there is nothing on the table right now to keep us here when the lease expires what do you think is going to happen?
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Lease will be extended cuz LA wont have schit up by then and Santa Clara just wont happen
Plus the NFL good ole boy network aint letting Roski or the AEG guys get a team in LA so easily….trust that
November 15th, 2011 at 3:09 pm
Calm down, Brian the Genital.
You don’t have to get your pretty pink panties in a bunch because I insulted a wack football stadium and your brother is a lousy community college wannabee.
The Raiders belong Downtown next to the Jewel of California, the Lake Show.
All day, all night, we keep the party rocking till the break of dawn (new lyrics off my upcoming solo album Wrecks N Effect).
November 15th, 2011 at 3:09 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 3:07 pm
333.DeuceDeuce Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 3:04 pm
What up fellas?..
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Tuesday….practice and all….hope gameplan for Sunday is roughly the same as the SD game….should be blueprint for season
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Should have been gameplan for the past 2 weeks!! lol
I smell ya..
November 15th, 2011 at 3:09 pm
340.Albert Bigelow Paine is your friend Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 3:08 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 3:06 pm
334.Albert Bigelow Paine is your friend Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 3:05 pm
As much as I don’t like Brien, I would love to see him beat the crap out of Beeecham. Afterwards, I would call the cops and rat him out.
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Wimpelow, shut up you punk…all summer you talked as if you were gonna meet me at the game nov 6th…your punk ass wont show…bloggers met me…you?
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I’m not stupid. Why would I want to go to jail and ruin what was a good time? Some of us have brains.
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MR….its a good time for the whole blog to know I stomped your face in…you wouldnt go to jail…you going to ICU patna
November 15th, 2011 at 3:11 pm
# Dakota Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 3:03 pm
328.JT Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 2:59 pm
That would be great. The packers have a top notch program. What about promoting one of the raiders current scouts or director of scouting. They know what type of player Al Davis liked.
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Why would we want someone to come in and look for the same players Al looked for? Has that worked in the past 27-28 years?
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I read that Al Davis overlooked the recommendations of the raider scouts many times. So who knows.
November 15th, 2011 at 3:11 pm
MR….its a good time for the whole blog to know I stomped your face in…you wouldnt go to jail…you going to ICU patna
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I’m not MR. But, I would have destroyed you in a fight. It would have been kind of fun to embarrass you in front of your homies.
November 15th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
I love McFadden (smart and tough) but admit that he has “weak” feet. I would not trade him though. I want to see how he is utilized in the “Palmer era”.
November 15th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
The ” Oakland Raiders”…….. Fk L.A…..
November 15th, 2011 at 3:13 pm
Albert Puss you’re obviously dying for an invite to my new luxury box at Farmer’s Field.
Tell you what, if your mom signs a permission slip and you can give proof of income (a pay stub from Shakey’s will do), I’ll let you serve meatball sliders in my box at the Raider’s home opener.
But keep your sweaty digits off the PARTYDUDE 8000. That’s man’s game right there, son.
November 15th, 2011 at 3:13 pm
People are still drawing up Raider stadium scenarios overlooking that management has changed drastically. Everything’s different now. Mark Davis is not Al Davis. This completely hits the reset button on the Raiders’ stadium debate. It changes everything. And I think a lot of bay area investors and politicians might open up to the Raiders now. If they do, Mark will stay in Oakland.
November 15th, 2011 at 3:14 pm
…..Rams are LA’s real team
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Wrong, they got them from Cleveland. lmfao
November 15th, 2011 at 3:14 pm
Beeecham, I will stay out of your luxury box. I don’t want to catch any venereal diseases.
November 15th, 2011 at 3:15 pm
Exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 3:14 pm
…..Rams are LA’s real team
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Wrong, they got them from Cleveland. lmfao
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Chargers are L.A.’s team.
November 15th, 2011 at 3:17 pm
342.Master Beeecham Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 3:09 pm
Calm down, Brian the Genital.
You don’t have to get your pretty pink panties in a bunch because I insulted a wack football stadium and your brother is a lousy community college wannabee.
The Raiders belong Downtown next to the Jewel of California, the Lake Show.
All day, all night, we keep the party rocking till the break of dawn (new lyrics off my upcoming solo album Wrecks N Effect).
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Wrong tranny juice guzzler…wack stadium? Sorry but its a legendary place that has hosted memorable classic NFL games and guess what your people in LA try to rip that stadium’s style lol…I WIN you LOSE
HAHA community college player? Yeah playing for BCS conference and numerous games on TV this season plus Mizzou going to SEC…you lose again
Jewel of California is in Mendocino or Humboldt county. Raiders dont belong in downtown LA…downtown LA is crap you just want another fake show like your cruise boat parties.
But come up to a game and say that to people here….bet you wont make it out alive
November 15th, 2011 at 3:17 pm
Yeah, I can see a bunch of politicians spending taxpayers money on a new stadium for the Raiders. Sully, you should run for office.
November 15th, 2011 at 3:18 pm
When I went to the Denver game, I actually saw a lady wearing a Jamarcus jersey. That’s as dumb as wearing a Tebow jersey.
November 15th, 2011 at 3:19 pm
There’s trade DMC talk going on in here??
lol…Wow.. I guess I shouldnt be surprised..
November 15th, 2011 at 3:19 pm
353.Albert Bigelow Paine is your friend Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 3:15 pm
Exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 3:14 pm
…..Rams are LA’s real team
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Wrong, they got them from Cleveland. lmfao
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Chargers are L.A.’s team.
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First off exla…..Rams were in LA for 50 years….thats the team they really embraced for a long period of time and they got substantial history there. What history was built in Cleveland for Rams? What connection does it have tothe people? Anyone in Cleveland saying bring back our Rams? Thanks …that was too easy patna…try again
November 15th, 2011 at 3:20 pm
exla you dont have to like what I say but you know its the truth….that place is not home and never was….you have even LA people saying they belong here…ever heard people from Eastbay say that? Thanks
November 15th, 2011 at 3:21 pm
Cockran is undecided whether he goes with the team if it goes back to L.A. FYI Steve. In your job hunt, the Media News Group (parent of the Contra Costa Times) has the following papers in So. Cal. so you can keep your benefits if they move.
Southern California
Daily Breeze
Impacto USA
Inland Valley Daily Bulletin
Grunion Gazette
LA.com
LA Daily News
Long Beach Press Telegram
Pasadena Star-News
Redlands Daily Facts
San Bernardino County Sun
San Gabriel Valley Tribune
U-Entertainment
Whittier Daily News
November 15th, 2011 at 3:22 pm
I don’t care again where they play. I am a Raider fan.
November 15th, 2011 at 3:23 pm
Raiders should move to Sacramento and change name to the California Raiders.
November 15th, 2011 at 3:25 pm
Palmer+McFadden+No Al+New Stadium+FA Draw of LA= easy call for Mark.
November 15th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
362.Albert Bigelow Paine is your friend Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 3:23 pm
Raiders should move to Sacramento and change name to the California Raiders.
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Good ole MRisms lol
November 15th, 2011 at 3:27 pm
I had season tickets in L.A. and in Oakland. Until I divorced my ex and no longer had airline benefits as she worked for an airline. Was able to RT to the Bay area from Minneapolis for $20 coach or $40. 1st class.
November 15th, 2011 at 3:27 pm
361.exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 3:22 pm
I don’t care again where they play. I am a Raider fan.
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Yep and thats the problem…the mystique you wanna and all the sayings comes from here….none of it was built there or any other place so it just wont be as real….you dont care about the Raiders like you think….LA almost destroyed them
November 15th, 2011 at 3:29 pm
363.Dakota Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 3:25 pm
Palmer+McFadden+No Al+New Stadium+FA Draw of LA= easy call for Mark.
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Draw of LA? LOL you fool not everyone digs LA….dont know where u get that from but alot of players are from the south and up north reminds them of that much more than LA ever could
bad history+lack of support+gang culture+no connection to team+amy trask= staying home
November 15th, 2011 at 3:29 pm
Lets say Mark wants to move the team to LA, but Oakland gets to keep the Raider name and history, but things fall through and Oakland can’t support a team and the Raiders become history, what team would you then root for? The new LA Team?
I know Brien would jump on the 49er bandwagon, what about the rest of you guys?
November 15th, 2011 at 3:30 pm
Brian the Genital why are you defending that sad old dump? It’s a national joke, a punchline.
Kinda like your brother when he bricks 3 in a row in the pre game lay up line.
You should be down on your skinny lady knees, thanking folks like me for making huge advance purchases in Farmer’s, so we can put the Raiders in a field worthy of their superiority.
More importantly, when the Raiders and Lakes are united Downtown in championship brotherhood, Spearmint Rhino will be forced to ship in more babes from Germany to meet the demand.
I WIN AGAIN, MO BIGSLEY STYLE
November 15th, 2011 at 3:31 pm
Mark will keep the Raiders up here.
Raiders belong in Northern Cali. End of discussion.
November 15th, 2011 at 3:32 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
362.Albert Bigelow Paine is your friend Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 3:23 pm
Raiders should move to Sacramento and change name to the California Raiders.
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Good ole MRisms lol
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How about the Oakland Raiders of California?
Angels changed their name from Anaheim Angels to the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim!
November 15th, 2011 at 3:32 pm
365.exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 3:27 pm
I had season tickets in L.A. and in Oakland. Until I divorced my ex and no longer had airline benefits as she worked for an airline. Was able to RT to the Bay area from Minneapolis for $20 coach or $40. 1st class.
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Divorce? Rough stuff man
Still the facts are Oakland is the Raiders and the Raiders are Oakland..Raiders grew up with the people here, dont you understand that? When you think of Oakland you think Raiders…LA? Naw you think bzies…which is cool no doubt…hollywood and the fkin lakers…be serious man
November 15th, 2011 at 3:33 pm
We can thank the LA fans for people associating Raider fans with gangbangers.
November 15th, 2011 at 3:34 pm
downtown LA is crap
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Still don;t know why they never managed to make downtown the spot. Looks like a ghost town after 8pm. They’ve tried to make it into something cool, just never works out.
The Staples Center area I think is where they want to put the stadium, which would be alright with the LA Live deal, but still kind of lame.
November 15th, 2011 at 3:34 pm
The Big Banana Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 3:33 pm
We can thank the LA fans for people associating Raider fans with gangbangers.
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I apologize on behalf of said fans and ask you, kind sir….
Where you from FOOL??
November 15th, 2011 at 3:35 pm
369.Master Beeecham Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 3:30 pm
Brian the Genital why are you defending that sad old dump? It’s a national joke, a punchline.
Kinda like your brother when he bricks 3 in a row in the pre game lay up line.
You should be down on your skinny lady knees, thanking folks like me for making huge advance purchases in Farmer’s, so we can put the Raiders in a field worthy of their superiority.
More importantly, when the Raiders and Lakes are united Downtown in championship brotherhood, Spearmint Rhino will be forced to ship in more babes from Germany to meet the demand.
I WIN AGAIN, MO BIGSLEY STYLE
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Raiders never in brotherhood with Lakers…we dont want AIDS
Punchline? What team plays in LA? LOL there is your punchline
Um Raiders name and style come from Oakland…so you wanna destroy that for something fake? Counterfeit like your stories of partying lol
Ha Mike brick layups? Upset still your fat stubby family cant produce athletes…such sad closet case phags with no life
November 15th, 2011 at 3:35 pm
Brien Bootlicker, you weren’t even around when the Raiders were making legends in Oakland. So shutup.
November 15th, 2011 at 3:35 pm
“Yep and thats the problem…the mystique you wanna and all the sayings comes from here….none of it was built there or any other place so it just wont be as real….you dont care about the Raiders like you think….LA almost destroyed them”
I get that and I agree 100%
That being said, I doubt we renew our lease in 2013 unless the stadium undergoes an overhaul or some kind of significant upgrade. Currently there are no plans in play NOTHING which is cause for concern.
November 15th, 2011 at 3:35 pm
373.. LOL.. sad but true… I’m still glad they were rooting us on to a win in SD. . Finally they were good for sonthing..
November 15th, 2011 at 3:36 pm
Angels changed their name from Anaheim Angels to the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim!
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Puke.
Haven’t been to a Dodger game in a while but they were the only team in the MLB to still list them as “ANA” instead of “LAA.”
November 15th, 2011 at 3:36 pm
374.LA to TheBay Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 3:34 pm
downtown LA is crap
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Still don;t know why they never managed to make downtown the spot. Looks like a ghost town after 8pm. They’ve tried to make it into something cool, just never works out.
The Staples Center area I think is where they want to put the stadium, which would be alright with the LA Live deal, but still kind of lame.
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Better off with Roski’s site to be honest…no tailgating in dowtown venue…lame
November 15th, 2011 at 3:37 pm
373.The Big Banana Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 3:33 pm
We can thank the LA fans for people associating Raider fans with gangbangers.
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And can’t we thank gangsta rappers for giving the gangbangers the fashion example of Raider wear being an important part of the whole “gangsta” ensemble?
November 15th, 2011 at 3:37 pm
377.KoolKell Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 3:35 pm
Brien Bootlicker, you weren’t even around when the Raiders were making legends in Oakland. So shutup.
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Can your homo ass not talk to me please…i keep telling ya to not talk to me…hell cant ya listen for Mr Educated Military Real Estate big wig?
Stop living to talk to me…Im not into men now break camp old man
November 15th, 2011 at 3:38 pm
Some think the team might be moved to LA. Does that mean they repackage Al and send him South too. Somehow, I don’t think so. The Raiders are born & bred in Oakland. They are Oakland’s team and they belong in Oakland. this team reflects the city it represents. Moving it out of Oakland would be a travesty.
November 15th, 2011 at 3:38 pm
Honestly though.. there’s a lot of sh!t head raider fans in Oakland as well.. there’s sh!t head fans in every city.
November 15th, 2011 at 3:38 pm
With Al Davis dead, the Raiders have to be the #1 target of So-Cal.
And no amount of nostalgic whining, from somebody who wasn’t even there, is going to trump the figures.
November 15th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
Let’s talk about mystique. Where does the Black Hole come from. When they removed and reconfigured the L.A.seating on the perisyle entrance by the Olympic torch, they put new seating in that area called the “Pirates Cove”. When they returned to Oakland, a similar area was created, “The Black Hole.”
November 15th, 2011 at 3:41 pm
I guess you guys never seen Ice Cubes special on ESPN?
November 15th, 2011 at 3:41 pm
Method.. you got that right.. no tailgating in new stadium in l
a. .. only parking structures.. that would suck.. raiders definitely belong in Oakland.
November 15th, 2011 at 3:42 pm
Genital, see what you’ve done with your hysterical period-fueled ranting and raving?
Pissed off your Grandpa Krappy, that’s what! And with only a week to go until the Kelly Family Thanksgiving Spectacular.
Genital, your argument that the Raiders don’t belong next to Purple & Gold royalty and their 15 championship banners basically means you’re not a fan.
A true fan of the Silver & Black wants them on a national stage in the entertainment capital of the world, only blocks from the magical Spearmint Rhino.
Not in an armpit covered in seagull dung.
Speaking of dung, has your brother ever tried any Harlem Globetrotter moves with the refs? I bet the community college kids love that one.
November 15th, 2011 at 3:43 pm
382.Gerard Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 3:37 pm
373.The Big Banana Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 3:33 pm
We can thank the LA fans for people associating Raider fans with gangbangers.
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And can’t we thank gangsta rappers for giving the gangbangers the fashion example of Raider wear being an important part of the whole “gangsta” ensemble?
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Crap…big time crap
November 15th, 2011 at 3:43 pm
I’m from northern Cali. You gonna try to argue that one? Seriously? I’m down in LA plenty and have seen it first hand.
Chew on this:
SAN BERNARDINO – The Oakland Raiders, a dozen years after fleeing Los Angeles, finished the 2006 regular season with a 2-14 record — the worst in the NFL.
Despite the teams’ embarrassing performance, silver-and-black attired Raider Nation fans significantly outnumber any other sports team appearing daily at the main San Bernardino County courthouse in downtown San Bernardino.
Criminal gang prosecutors are unimpressed.
“Generally speaking, those wearing Raiders gear in Southern California are associated with gangs,” said Cheryl Kersey, who leads the hard-core gang prosecution unit for the San Bernardino County district attorney’s office.
“Most Southern California gangs have adopted the Raiders, probably 90 percent,” Kersey said. “We rarely see other attire from other sports teams.”
In her office, Kersey has five black hats confiscated during search warrants involving gangs. She said they are used to train law enforcement on recognizing gang symbols.
One is a Raiders hat doctored to reflect an Inland Empire gang connection. The others are also black with lettering reflecting gang names.
Gangs first pick their colors, then find a team that coincides with them, Kersey said. Black is popular among Hispanic gangs in Southern California, she said.
Raiders gear dominates the courthouse because gang members must adopt the team as their own when they join, she said.
“You pledge loyalty,” she said. “No individuals are allowed.”
Gang membership dictates the cars members drive, the women they date and the teams they like, Kersey said.
“If they weren’t a Raiders fan before joining a gang, they certainly will become one,” she said.
Gang prosecutor Doug Poston said the Raiders’ bad-boy image — a pirate with a swashbuckling attitude — is the attraction.
November 15th, 2011 at 3:43 pm
The key sign that the Raiders will be in play is an exibition game in L.A. Like the preseason game in Oakland when they were in L.A.
November 15th, 2011 at 3:43 pm
Rams are LA’s real team but you can settle for being bored watching the Chargers on sundays
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This is true. My pops grew up in Inglewood and claims the Rams to this day!
November 15th, 2011 at 3:44 pm
387.exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
Let’s talk about mystique. Where does the Black Hole come from. When they removed and reconfigured the L.A.seating on the perisyle entrance by the Olympic torch, they put new seating in that area called the “Pirates Cove”. When they returned to Oakland, a similar area was created, “The Black Hole.”
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Yawwwwwwwwwwwwwnnnnn Raiders and mystique come from where? The costume schit came from LA no doubt
November 15th, 2011 at 3:44 pm
368.Dakota Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 3:29 pm
Lets say Mark wants to move the team to LA, but Oakland gets to keep the Raider name and history, but things fall through and Oakland can’t support a team and the Raiders become history, what team would you then root for? The new LA Team?
I know Brien would jump on the 49er bandwagon, what about the rest of you guys?
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Just like what they did with the Browns? The Baltimore Ravens are really the “original” Browns and then Cleveland got an expansion team and called them “Browns”. Wonder if any old school Browns fans root for Ravens.
So Oakland would have an expansion team called the Oakland Raiders and Mark would comeup with a brand new LA team name, brand, logo etc. but THAT team would be Al Davis’s old Oakland Raiders franchise?
I don’t know, that would be weird.
November 15th, 2011 at 3:45 pm
I need my tailgate….in that case, stay in Oakland!!!!
Tailgate is where the magic happens…..girls, booze, smoke, homies, bbq, wings, ribs more food and more booze!!!
November 15th, 2011 at 3:45 pm
The main barrier to the Raiders moving in the past was Al Davis. Because, nobody wanted him as part of ANY package.
Now that he’s dead, and Mark Davis has no interest…….They are a prime target.
November 15th, 2011 at 3:45 pm
Fans in l.a. will not support a losing team… there is no way you will be getting sell outs when raiders play like they did vs k.c. and Denver. . No way they get a sellout.. it would be pretty pathetic.. just like SD games when 60% is rooting for the opposing team.
November 15th, 2011 at 3:46 pm
Ghostraiders Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 3:35 pm
373.. LOL.. sad but true… I’m still glad they were rooting us on to a win in SD. . Finally they were good for sonthing..
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Lol. The knife attacks at Charger games are well known.
November 15th, 2011 at 3:46 pm
390.Master Beeecham Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 3:42 pm
Genital, see what you’ve done with your hysterical period-fueled ranting and raving?
Pissed off your Grandpa Krappy, that’s what! And with only a week to go until the Kelly Family Thanksgiving Spectacular.
Genital, your argument that the Raiders don’t belong next to Purple & Gold royalty and their 15 championship banners basically means you’re not a fan.
A true fan of the Silver & Black wants them on a national stage in the entertainment capital of the world, only blocks from the magical Spearmint Rhino.
Not in an armpit covered in seagull dung.
Speaking of dung, has your brother ever tried any Harlem Globetrotter moves with the refs? I bet the community college kids love that one.
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Raiders are from Oakland and not a hollywood glitz and glamour fake operation like the Lakers….Rod Martin an La Native said himself they dont belong in LA…go figure
I’m not a fan…never been one….try again dummy
Yawwwwwwwwwwwwnnnn to the globetrotter comment….so lame…and further shows your jealousy lol
November 15th, 2011 at 3:46 pm
Banana, I was just messin’ with you man, LOL.
“Where you from fool” is something I heard a lot of growing up.
November 15th, 2011 at 3:47 pm
388.r8eray Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 3:41 pm
I guess you guys never seen Ice Cubes special on ESPN?
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we did
November 15th, 2011 at 3:47 pm
I thought the Chargers were targeted for LA. If not them then, the next logical target was the Vikings coming to SoCal.
November 15th, 2011 at 3:48 pm
Yeah, keep the Raiders in Oakland where the gang members dont wear Raider gear!!
November 15th, 2011 at 3:49 pm
Ask some gang member to name 3 active raider players… I double they could answer correctly. .. they primarily like the image it portrays.. I like going to Oakland. . .. fans are just more real…IMO. .
November 15th, 2011 at 3:49 pm
Raiders WILL NOT move back. LA is a town of front runners and anything new. The Raiders are neither. They will never be “trendy” and definately are not new. LA needs a team like the Jags…that way they can change the name and the uniform and call it a “new” team.
Can anyone think of some g@y LA names? You know how they do it…
November 15th, 2011 at 3:49 pm
Rod Martin an La Native said himself they dont belong in LA…go figure
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I agree with Rod.
Most LA fans will tell you this, they just wish they could get the game on TV every week.
November 15th, 2011 at 3:49 pm
LA To TheBay Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 3:46 pm
Banana, I was just messin’ with you man, LOL.
“Where you from fool” is something I heard a lot of growing up.
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“What you claim?”
November 15th, 2011 at 3:50 pm
The only way the Raider stay in the Oakland area is if they play second fiddle to the 49ers in a new stadium.
Brien, can you handle the Raiders being the LA Clippers of the NFL?
November 15th, 2011 at 3:51 pm
LA does have people who dig the Raiders of course….but overall LA just got too much schit to do…yall bzies are too fine, your coke too potent and your weather whoops ass
November 15th, 2011 at 3:51 pm
Still…the NFL thing would wear off again in LA…where a tailgate involves heading to a trendy restaurant before a game…
November 15th, 2011 at 3:51 pm
410.Dakota Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 3:50 pm
The only way the Raider stay in the Oakland area is if they play second fiddle to the 49ers in a new stadium.
Brien, can you handle the Raiders being the LA Clippers of the NFL?
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That wont happen ever…santa clara wont happen at all fool
November 15th, 2011 at 3:52 pm
dakota you are so fkin stupid…what have the clippers ever fkin won?
November 15th, 2011 at 3:52 pm
There’s sh!t head fans everywhere… I just hated comming back to my car in l.a. And finding out someone broke into it..
November 15th, 2011 at 3:53 pm
ghostraiders Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 3:49 pm
Ask some gang member to name 3 active raider players… I double they could answer correctly. .. they primarily like the image it portrays.. I like going to Oakland. . .. fans are just more real…IMO. .
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Not necessarily true.
Most of us got into the Raiders for the Image thing, but a lot of it was because we identified with them. They came from Cali, they were bad@sses, they were a winner at the time and they had Al Davis, with his middle finger to the world. We appreciated that he wanted to be in LA bad enough to go to court for it.
My experience is different, because I was a fan of the football team before anything. The colors and history are appealing but Bo Jackson and Marcus Allen really brought me in.
So happens there is no red or blue in the Raiders colors and that works well in LA.
November 15th, 2011 at 3:53 pm
Raiders deserve thier own stadium. I hate seeing the dirt early in the season. If they dont get one in Oakland, then they can get one in LA. I would love if they moved back, but it doesnt affect my loyalty either way.
November 15th, 2011 at 3:53 pm
414.Method To My Madness Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 3:52 pm
dakota you are so fkin stupid…what have the clippers ever fkin won?
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Settle down, I just mean in the respect that they would be second class citizens in the new stadium with the 49ers.
Can you live with that?
November 15th, 2011 at 3:54 pm
All of you blog geeks whining about tailgating, time to step it up and party BIG BOI STYLE
Once the Raiders move to the party to Farmer’s, I’ll be having pregame jams at Spearmint Rhino or at ESPN Zone in Nokia Live.
Or if I want hot island action, I’ll be holding court in the tiki lounge at Trader Vic’s. Banged a couple waitresses there already, not bad.
It’s the New Age of Raider Tailgating – Downtown LA Style! Step up or step off.
BTW – whenever Brian the Genital tells you a comment is lame, it’s because it’s ALWAYS true!
November 15th, 2011 at 3:54 pm
The Big Banana Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 3:49 pm
LA To TheBay Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 3:46 pm
Banana, I was just messin’ with you man, LOL.
“Where you from fool” is something I heard a lot of growing up.
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“What you claim?”
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LOL.
These days, myself.
But Bo will tell you who I ran with way back when. They used to huslte him on the blacktop and take his lunch money.
November 15th, 2011 at 3:54 pm
Dakota wont be satisfied until raider players are caught up in a sting opeartion at some hollywood hills party and embarrassment comes on Raiders….how smart u redneck
November 15th, 2011 at 3:54 pm
I guess when u don’t live in the area you don’t have that emotional investment. I totally get the Bay Area Raider fans feeling jipped when team moved to LA, but from an outsiders point of view, it was kinda cool to see Raiders go hollywood and be in the 2nd biggest city in the U.S. My opinion is they NEVER lost their identity as the bad boys of the league being in LA. That whole thing remained. I think alot of people saw them as the “anti LA” despite playing there. Or better said, the Raiders seemed to have embodied the “bad boy” part of LA. That was the image, and alot of people didn’t like it.
I think that is why there is still quite a contingent of Raider love in LA today; Raiders embodied that “anti hollywood” image, and many embraced it and still do.
November 15th, 2011 at 3:55 pm
ghostraiders Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 3:52 pm
There’s sh!t head fans everywhere… I just hated comming back to my car in l.a. And finding out someone broke into it..
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Sorry but that deck you had in there was dope.
November 15th, 2011 at 3:55 pm
421.Method To My Madness Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 3:54 pm
Dakota wont be satisfied until raider players are caught up in a sting opeartion at some hollywood hills party and embarrassment comes on Raiders….how smart u redneck
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Russell isn’t on the team anymore…..I am confident the rest of the team are angels!
November 15th, 2011 at 3:55 pm
419.Master Beeecham Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 3:54 pm
All of you blog geeks whining about tailgating, time to step it up and party BIG BOI STYLE
Once the Raiders move to the party to Farmer’s, I’ll be having pregame jams at Spearmint Rhino or at ESPN Zone in Nokia Live.
Or if I want hot island action, I’ll be holding court in the tiki lounge at Trader Vic’s. Banged a couple waitresses there already, not bad.
It’s the New Age of Raider Tailgating – Downtown LA Style! Step up or step off.
BTW – whenever Brian the Genital tells you a comment is lame, it’s because it’s ALWAYS true!
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Makes zero sense….you said community college basketball and globetrotter BS which is a lie…anymore lies to tell us beecher? you been doing it for years now
November 15th, 2011 at 3:56 pm
424.Dakota Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 3:55 pm
421.Method To My Madness Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 3:54 pm
Dakota wont be satisfied until raider players are caught up in a sting opeartion at some hollywood hills party and embarrassment comes on Raiders….how smart u redneck
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Russell isn’t on the team anymore…..I am confident the rest of the team are angels!
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Angels? Dakota i know you are democrat now lol
November 15th, 2011 at 3:57 pm
Nothing gets a rise out of Brien more than LA talk lol. I am out.
November 15th, 2011 at 3:57 pm
LA that was funny lol…good one
November 15th, 2011 at 3:58 pm
Or better said, the Raiders seemed to have embodied the “bad boy” part of LA. That was the image, and alot of people didn’t like it.
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This is what I liked about their time in LA. Oakland guys will tell you they changed when they came south and went Hollywood.
I have no basis for comparison, so I can;t say, but mostly, my experience is you got a very wide range of LA Raider fans and I always liked that the area south of the 10 was well represented by the Raiders.
But you get Marina Del Rey and Valley fans, Inland Empire fans and on and on.
November 15th, 2011 at 3:58 pm
427.Dakota Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 3:57 pm
Nothing gets a rise out of Brien more than LA talk lol. I am out.
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Bring a 21 year old co-ed to the crib and that will get a bigger rise lol
November 15th, 2011 at 3:59 pm
LOL
November 15th, 2011 at 4:00 pm
422.Gerard Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 3:54 pm
I guess when u don’t live in the area you don’t have that emotional investment. I totally get the Bay Area Raider fans feeling jipped when team moved to LA, but from an outsiders point of view, it was kinda cool to see Raiders go hollywood and be in the 2nd biggest city in the U.S. My opinion is they NEVER lost their identity as the bad boys of the league being in LA. That whole thing remained. I think alot of people saw them as the “anti LA” despite playing there. Or better said, the Raiders seemed to have embodied the “bad boy” part of LA. That was the image, and alot of people didn’t like it.
I think that is why there is still quite a contingent of Raider love in LA today; Raiders embodied that “anti hollywood” image, and many embraced it and still do.
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HAHA you dont know what you’re talking about…1984 Raiders lost it tothe Bears when they were defending champs…thenthe 49ers put nail in coffin in 1985
November 15th, 2011 at 4:00 pm
Dang, slow day for the Raiders, busy day for LA to TheBay. Thankfully, time to call it and grab some Decourtet.
I’m out.
Be good.
November 15th, 2011 at 4:01 pm
LA got too much schit to do…has LA missed a beat without football? Hell no
November 15th, 2011 at 4:01 pm
ElkGRaider Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 3:49 pm
Can anyone think of some g@y LA names? You know how they do it…
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It has to be something that really epitomizes LA. How’s about LA Crackheads? LA Wannabe Starlets turned Porn Actresses? Culver City C*** Suckers? LA Shallows? Beverly Hills Rehabs?
November 15th, 2011 at 4:01 pm
I’m out too…yall be cool…Raider on
November 15th, 2011 at 4:03 pm
Gang members suck… the worst party poopers in the universe after sully..
November 15th, 2011 at 4:03 pm
435.Seymour Bush Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 4:01 pm
ElkGRaider Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 3:49 pm
Can anyone think of some g@y LA names? You know how they do it…
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It has to be something that really epitomizes LA. How’s about LA Crackheads? LA Wannabe Starlets turned Porn Actresses? Culver City C*** Suckers? LA Shallows? Beverly Hills Rehabs?
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Ouch mayne….thats cold biz to say
I say LA Autopians
November 15th, 2011 at 4:07 pm
I admit I have limited experience with the “Oak/LA” Raider issue, but I flew to LA from Chi. for a business trip and decided to go to the famous Venice Beach (rained all week i was there but that’s another story) and popped in this bar right off the beach and watched SD play the Jets (at home in the playoffs) and to my surprise almost EVERYBODY in that bar was rooting AGAINST SD and there were a ton of Raider shirts, hats, etc. being worn and I felt right at home.
It seemed everywhere I went in LA area I would see Raider bumper stickers, guys wearing Raider stuff etc. and I would chat some of them up and ask about their allegiance to the Raiders. I’d tell them I was from Chicago and all that and one asked me “why aren’t u a Bears fan then?” I told him that’s just the way it is, and that I grew up loving the bad boy Raiders. He eemed surprised. He told me there’s tons of Raider fans in LA.
Anyway, I have much love for the folks out there. I’ve been lots of places and the folks in Southern Cal. were some of the coolest folks I’ve ever met.
November 15th, 2011 at 4:08 pm
Poking fun of LA’s drug, gang and homeless problem might be taken more seriously if it wasnt coming from someone in Oakland. I’m from East LA and I roll my windows up and lock my doors when i roll into town!
November 15th, 2011 at 4:08 pm
Better off with Roski’s site to be honest…no tailgating in dowtown venue…lame
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The Raiders belong in Oakland, and should remain there.
That being said, IF they were to move down here. On a purely selfish note, Roski’s proposed stadium is only 15mi. +or- from my front door..
But, Roski will probably come up short. NFL wants the downtown stadium, with the Powder Blue Peter Puffers in it..
November 15th, 2011 at 4:09 pm
Brian the Genital – slapped, embarrassed and leaving once again with his tail between his legs.
Must be a Wednesday!
November 15th, 2011 at 4:13 pm
12:59 [Comment From Bob Bob: ]
Hearing lots of reports about Hue jackson being seen ‘acting a fool’ in the clubs. Have you heard any of these reports
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LMAO!
November 15th, 2011 at 4:13 pm
I lived in LA back in the 80’s and certainly loved having my Raiders playing there, winning a Superbowl and turning the whole place into a Raider loving asylum. But I remember when they moved back to Oakland I wasn’t bummed or anything because when you see OAKLAND Raiders it just sounds and looks right.
I hope they stay forever. It doesn’t have the same feel or something if it doesn’t say Oakland. It just fits.
November 15th, 2011 at 4:23 pm
I definitely walked away from my visit to So. Cal. thinking there was some kind of “rivalry” and animosity between LA folks and San Diego.
Maybe motly due to my ‘Venice Beach experience’ i guess.
It was fun tuning to a SD radio station and hearing the post game of the loss to the Jets.
November 15th, 2011 at 4:23 pm
I just saw Trevor Scott’s face on a milk carton
November 15th, 2011 at 4:26 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 4:01 pm
ElkGRaider Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 3:49 pm
Can anyone think of some g@y LA names? You know how they do it…
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It has to be something that really epitomizes LA. How’s about LA Crackheads? LA Wannabe Starlets turned Porn Actresses? Culver City C*** Suckers? LA Shallows? Beverly Hills Rehabs?
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come talk that mess in LA and see what happens
November 15th, 2011 at 4:30 pm
538.No Mas Diamante Says:
November 14th, 2011 at 1:14 pm
Cheifs might actually be better. cassel lost his mojo during the miami game. He was terrible yesterday.
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Well, his hand was injured and he may be out for the season.
November 15th, 2011 at 4:45 pm
Gerard Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 4:23 pm
I definitely walked away from my visit to So. Cal. thinking there was some kind of “rivalry” and animosity between LA folks and San Diego.
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Oh, there is.
November 15th, 2011 at 5:06 pm
I remember going to SD to watch the raiders beat up on the chargers. .. by the time it was all said n done.. Raiders fans we’re fighting raiders fans… charger fans didn’t want to fight… so some idiots stared fighting each other…. yea. That’s what happens when people get bored.. raiders won by 3 touch Downs…
November 15th, 2011 at 5:09 pm
Anybody that goes to a football game to fight, or with the intention to fight if ones team loses, deserves to be ass raped repeatedly.
November 15th, 2011 at 5:10 pm
BTW, Michael Bush ,offensive player of the week!
November 15th, 2011 at 5:11 pm
Like Tony says, no fvcking kids mang!
November 15th, 2011 at 5:16 pm
That’s why a don’t sit with the commoners when i go to the raider charger game in san diego. club section there are no fights
November 15th, 2011 at 5:16 pm
Cw..couldn’t agree more.. I’m a Raiders fan.. but when I see guys fighting for no apparent reason.. its embarrassing to see.. I remember going to the l.a. memorial coliseum… the attraction was always what was happening in the stands not on the field.. you had the entire raiders sideline looking up to the stands instead of concentrating on the game at hand..pathetic..
November 15th, 2011 at 5:18 pm
Cholos = Pitos
November 15th, 2011 at 5:19 pm
By Bill Williamson
The NFL has honored Oakland Raiders running back Michael Bush as the AFC offensive player of the week for his performance in a 24-17 Oakland win at San Diego Thursday.
Bush had 157 yards on 30 carries in the win. He had 78 yards in the first quarter.
Bush’s big game showed how dangerous Oakland’s running game can be. He is the backup to Darren McFadden, who has been out since Week 7 with a foot injury.
It is not known if McFadden can play Sunday at Minnesota, but he is expected to be back fairly soon.
November 15th, 2011 at 5:27 pm
Ghost, it truly is pathetic. Now at a bar I can see fists being thrown but not at a game. families and kids everywhere, some people are morons.
November 15th, 2011 at 5:32 pm
Ray.. just heard on radio.. DMC not expected to play.. I think That dude broke his foot…
November 15th, 2011 at 5:47 pm
Ghostraiders Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 5:16 pm
Cw..couldn’t agree more.. I’m a Raiders fan.. but when I see guys fighting for no apparent reason.. its embarrassing to see.. I remember going to the l.a. memorial coliseum… the attraction was always what was happening in the stands not on the field.. you had the entire raiders sideline looking up to the stands instead of concentrating on the game at hand..pathetic..
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Haha, I remember that as a kid when my Dad would take me. We had binoculars and I always remember us finding fights in the stands. I remember one Denver game that got out right brutal. I think we counted and saw 13 fights break out. Also, that Denver fan that wears that barrel was about 10 rows in front of us. He got doused with beer and everything else. He left during the 3rd quarter.
November 15th, 2011 at 5:50 pm
Ghost, I think he got some type of stress fracture which is usually healed by not applying stress for a few weeks!
Most of the time a stress fracture cannot be detected by x-ray or MRI…the best treatment is resting.
November 15th, 2011 at 5:57 pm
r8eray Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 5:19 pm
By Bill Williamson
The NFL has honored Oakland Raiders running back Michael Bush as the AFC offensive player of the week for his performance in a 24-17 Oakland win at San Diego Thursday.
Bush had 157 yards on 30 carries in the win. He had 78 yards in the first quarter.
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Darren who?
November 15th, 2011 at 6:03 pm
As good as bush is playing. . Dmac was leading the league in rushing before his injury… I hope he’s back ASAP! ! … goto to give props to that entire offensive line… they are bringing it… glad were finally settled at left tackle… veldheer and lil wiz should go to the probowl..
November 15th, 2011 at 6:12 pm
Can’t wait to watch the Donkeys game on Thursday.
Will be in El Paso with el jefe who is a Tebow fanatic to the Nth degree.
If Tebow flounders, I will get every excuse in the book. If he flourishes, free drinks all night I’m sure.
Can’t lose.
November 15th, 2011 at 6:16 pm
raiderinparadise Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 12:00 pm
67.Dakota Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 11:08 am
I’d say Montana and Elway are the relatively recent Jordan and Kobe of the NFL…..and Brady is more like the Clyde Drexler of the NFL….HOFer, All-time Great, Champion…but not quite in the top top rung.
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You clearly has mental issues. Tom brady is the best, check every stat, every record, every W-L %, he has 3-4 more years of a high level left too. Elway didn’t get the SB wins till he had the best RB in the game in Terrel davis at the time. He was old and that team rallied around him. Brady been to a superbowl when his “star WR” was troy brown. enough said. STFU.
Elway? really? elway!? omg. your delierious.
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Elway went to five Super Bowls winning the last two. Quick, name all the Hall of Famers Elway played with, and name all the Hall of Famers Tom Brady played with. Also, remember passing rules were greatly liberalized in the last few years. There is even “The Brady Rule” where opposing defensive linemen can’t go low on Q’s. Imagine guys like Namath, Elway and Fouts playing without dlinemen diving at their legs their entire careers and pass blocking and defending favoring passing attacks.
November 15th, 2011 at 6:17 pm
You got to think Tebow is going to fall flat on his face on the Prime Time moment against a D that can get in his azz, but I learned about 5 years ago that you aren’t going to make any type of living betting against Tim Tebow.
November 15th, 2011 at 6:18 pm
ghostraiders Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 6:03 pm
As good as bush is playing. . Dmac was leading the league in rushing before his injury… I hope he’s back ASAP! !
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Of course I was kidding when I said “Darren who”, but there is one tried and true way for players to heal quickly: and that is when their backup comes in and tears sh** up.
November 15th, 2011 at 6:23 pm
As far as Ponder this weekend, I liked the kid in college and think he may be a decent pro. Strong arm, very, very mobile and athletic, smart and plays with poise.
One thing that lingered with him in college was that he would get “dinged” often. I think that is something that we can maybe exploit a little, rough him up and force McNabb’s out of shape azz onto the field.
November 15th, 2011 at 6:26 pm
Hey guys , just curious who won the rookie of the week .. I know bush fedex ground player did DWOW win another rookie of the week award or not ?
November 15th, 2011 at 6:27 pm
Ponder is a hard working smart guy. I think he already has a Masters degree. I thought he looked real good yesterday in only his 3rd start. I hate to say it but I think we are going to have our hands full in this next game. Again, it’s load the box time for AP and let’s see if Palmer can have another perfect rating thru 3 quarters.
November 15th, 2011 at 6:29 pm
Just Fire Baby, Say Bruh, did you shoot me an email so that we can get squared up?
November 15th, 2011 at 6:31 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 6:17 pm
You got to think Tebow is going to fall flat on his face on the Prime Time moment against a D that can get in his azz, but I learned about 5 years ago that you aren’t going to make any type of living betting against Tim Tebow.
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HA….Some of us have to learn the hard way…
November 15th, 2011 at 6:32 pm
I’m very nervous about this game… I can’t remember the last time we beat Minnesota. . I’m sure its been awhile. . I expect a tough hard fought game.. I hope we blow them out.. be that’s wishful thinking. . The easiest game we’ve had this season was vs the browns. And we almost screwed that game up… I say we win 27-24..
November 15th, 2011 at 6:36 pm
Code black
November 15th, 2011 at 6:38 pm
Good Stuff from the Chat..love this exchange tho:
Q: who replaces cooper next year?
A: Might be Joseph Barksdale or Bruce Campbell. Coach Jackson will give Campbell one more shot to show what he’s capable of doing. Campbell needs to work hard during the offseason and show up to camp healthy, though.
Five Freakin Questions Later We Get:
Q:Any Pro Bowl worthy O-Lineman this year? They’ve kept the QBs pretty clean.
A:At this point, Jared Veldheer, followed by Stefen Wisniewski and Cooper Carlisle.
Its Sh!t like this that bugs the living f()ck out of me about Raider Fan sometimes…”Who is going to replace Cooper next year?” “Oh, you mean the guy that should go to the Pro-Bowl this year”
Jesus H.
November 15th, 2011 at 6:51 pm
462.Seymour Bush Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 5:57 pm
r8eray Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 5:19 pm
By Bill Williamson
The NFL has honored Oakland Raiders running back Michael Bush as the AFC offensive player of the week for his performance in a 24-17 Oakland win at San Diego Thursday.
Bush had 157 yards on 30 carries in the win. He had 78 yards in the first quarter.
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Darren who?
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Interesting that they make Bush player of the week when the headline of the game said ‘Palmer Leads Raiders over Chargers.’
Bush rocked, but I thought DMoore was huge as well as Palmer.
November 15th, 2011 at 7:00 pm
# Gerard Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 6:51 pm
462.Seymour Bush Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 5:57 pm
r8eray Says:
November 15th, 2011 at 5:19 pm
By Bill Williamson
The NFL has honored Oakland Raiders running back Michael Bush as the AFC offensive player of the week for his performance in a 24-17 Oakland win at San Diego Thursday.
Bush had 157 yards on 30 carries in the win. He had 78 yards in the first quarter.
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Darren who?
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Interesting that they make Bush player of the week when the headline of the game said ‘Palmer Leads Raiders over Chargers.’
Bush rocked, but I thought DMoore was huge as well as Palmer.
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All true, but McFadden takes that screen and one of those runs to the hizzy instead of Bush…probably two runs..a Healthy McFadden for the Chargers game, and it would have been blow out city USA…
November 16th, 2011 at 7:27 pm
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