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If given time, Palmer should carve up Vikings

Checking in for Steve Corkran, who took the trip to Minnesota while I tend to things on the home front. The plan is for me to do the live chat during Sunday’s game . . .

The Minnesota Vikings were already one of the NFL’s worst teams defending the pass even before losing their best player for the season.

The loss of Antoine Winfield to a broken collarbone in last week’s 45-7 mugging against the Green Bay Packers makes the problem even worse.

Aaron Rodgers did as he pleased against Minnesota, and make no mistake, the Raiders are not the Packers and aren’t likely to be so any time soon. But they made great strides as a passing offense against San Diego, as Carson Palmer’s 14-for-20, 299-yard performance against the Chargers will attest.

Minnesota is is giving up 272.8 yards per game through the air, ranked No. 30 in the league. True, yardage isn’t everything, but the Vikings have also surrendered 18 touchdown passes with six interceptions and an opposing quarterback rating of 101.7. Only the winless Colts (109.7) are worse.

The key will be controlling the noise factor and keeping defensive end Jared Allen reasonably under control. Allen enjoyed some of his best games with Kansas City against the Raiders, and at this point is playing better than ever, as detailed by colleague Mark Emmons in Saturday’s print editions.

Palmer acknowledged losing Winfield hurts the Vikings.

“It definitely changes things,” Palmer said. “He’s been a great player in this league for a long time. He can play all over the place, in the slot, outside, he can blitz, cover and tackle. Losing him was definitely a hit for them.”

Palmer allowed for the fact that an unknown could emerge and play the game of his life at any time, but Winfield isn’t the only issue. Cornerback Chris Cook is out while he sorts out domestic battery charges and safety Hussain Abdullah has a concussion last week. Veteran Bennie Sapp was signed for depth.

WHAT ABOUT DHB?

A leaky Minnesota secondary, combined with the absence of Jacoby Ford with a foot injury, could mean some action for Darrius Heyward-Bey. In the midst of a season that was somewhat of a breakthrough _ he’d only reached the end zone once but had become consistently productive _ Heyward-Bey has disappeared from view for the past two games.

Heyward-Bey played little against Denver _ a position-group issue, according to coach Hue Jackson _ and was blanked against San Diego.

No big deal, insist Palmer and Jackson.

“We don’t really have a leading receiver, a guy that’s going to catch 100 balls,” Palmer said. “We have a bunch of good players, and sometimes it’s their week, sometimes it’s another player’s week. So we’re always hoping someone steps up and makes plays. Last week it was Denarius (Moore). Who knows who it will be this week?”

Asked if this could be the week for Heyward-Bey to re-emerge, Jackson invented a new word: “I don’t think he de-emerged. Sometimes that’s the way it happens. The ball just didn’t go there. I think he’s going to be OK. He’s playing, and he’ll get his opportunities. Sometimes the defense dictates otherwise, but I expect Darrius Heyward-Bey to have a big game. I do.”

TRAP GAME

Jackson was dismissing talk of the Vikings being a “trap game” and for good reason. The Raiders haven’t proven they’re good enough to even qualify for a track game. Only a team that routine stacks wins together should be considered worthy of looking ahead.

“There are no trap games in the NFL,” Jackson said. “When you lose, you lose, when you win, you win. If we lose, it won’t be because it’s a trap, it’s because that team whipped our butt.”

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  • Just Fire Baby

    Ray,

    You got to unload on the Bears today.

    The Dolts have quit.

  • DonManoukiansNeighbor

    over/under on T Jones carries/yards?

  • Just Fire Baby

    over/under on T Jones carries/yards?

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    5 for 21

  • DonManoukiansNeighbor

    I say 12 for 67

  • fingers

    Jerry Mac… The Raiders are in the process of proving ” who they are and who they aren’t”…the book hasnt been written.. The Raiders don’t need to be the Greenbay Packers… They only need to be capable of beating them or anybody else….I don’t know how good the Raiders are capable of being just yet… And neither does anybody else….I’ll decide when the games are finished who the 2011 Raiders are….or aren’t..

  • TerrapinRaider

    For some reason I think TJ will be more effective this game than Bush. Vikings are stout inside. Maybe TJ can get the edge.

    I hope the WRs and Palmer show good things. This will not be an easy game. We are a better team but you just never know what you are going to get with the Raiders.

  • HitManMorris

    Fingers Says:
    November 20th, 2011 at 8:45 am
    Jerry Mac… The Raiders are in the process of proving ” who they are and who they aren’t”…the book hasnt been written.. The Raiders don’t need to be the Greenbay Packers… They only need to be capable of beating them or anybody else….I don’t know how good the Raiders are capable of being just yet… And neither does anybody else….I’ll decide when the games are finished who the 2011 Raiders are….or aren’t..

    Nicely written

  • qodrn

    THE RAIDER PREDICTION BOARD
    Dedicated to the legacy of Al Davis
    Protected by the rally squirrel and Coliseum rodents

    2011 Raider Games

    First: Ghostraider (exact score)
    Second: Sullivan44
    Third: Pretty Rick
    Fourth: Sullivan44
    Fifth: Fingers
    Sixth: Zymurge
    Honorable Mention: LA for PAIN
    Seventh: Noone…at all.
    Eighth: La Milicia Negra (exact score (sadly))
    Ninth: TheToozFan55 (exact score)

    860Todd Christensen Q…Raiders 34……Minny 13
    909RaiderLifer RAIDERS–27 ICE FISHING FOOLS–17
    [BREAKING NEWS] Oakland Raiders 55 Vikings 10
    The Big Banana The Ghost of Al Davis 27 Vikings 20
    big fan Oaktown 41 Minnytown 10
    Blackmamba_20 Raiders 27 Minni 13
    Carl Weathers 34-13 Raiders
    Chris in NY 24-21 … Raiders
    DaTruth91 Raiders 35 Vikes/Dikes 14
    DeuceDeuce Raiders 27 Vikings 24
    DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL OAKLAND 8 MINNESOTA 6
    DMAC Raiders 31 Viqueens 10
    1eyedpirate Raiders 31 VikIngs 20
    ElkGRaider Oaktown 28 Michelle Bachmans 20
    exlaraiderseasonticketholder 27-24 Raiders
    fingers Raiders…35…….Minnys…27……
    GG Raiders 34 Vikings 24
    Jesus Raiders 27 vikings 17
    JLofty Raiders 28. – Viks 20
    Just Fire Baby Raiders 27 Vikings 20
    Lowdown_in_Beijing Raiders 34 Vikings 7 (due to 3 PI penalties)
    mcfadden20 RAIDERS 34-13
    Method To My Madness Raiders 28 Vikings 17
    MiamiRaider78 Raiders 31 Vikings 21
    Neilb 17-13 Raiders.Defence on top.
    PlunkforHOF Raiders 38 Dykes 10
    Pretty Rick Raiders-31 Vikes-20
    r8eray 27-20 Raiders
    raiderinparadise 37 to 27 RAIDERSSSSSSSSSSSSS
    raidermarty RAIDERS 30 viqueens 20
    RaiderRetribution Raiders 31 – Minnesota 17
    RaiderRockstar Oakland 14 Purple PeePee Eaters 13
    RaiderRetribution Raiders 31 – Minnesota 17.
    saladfingerz raids 24 vikes 17
    Silverandblack666 Raiders 31 Minn 13
    SilverAndBlackBleeder Raiders 41 Vikings 20
    Sullivan44 Raiders 31, Vikings 24.
    TheToozFan55 Raiders 31 Vikes 10

  • Carl Weathers

    The line is now +2 from -1.5

  • DonManoukiansNeighbor

    Raiders 38-21

  • qodrn

    THE RAIDER PREDICTION BOARD
    Dedicated to the legacy of Al Davis
    Protected by the rally squirrel and Coliseum rodents

    2011 Raider Games

    First: Ghostraider (exact score)
    Second: Sullivan44
    Third: Pretty Rick
    Fourth: Sullivan44
    Fifth: Fingers
    Sixth: Zymurge
    Honorable Mention: LA for PAIN
    Seventh: Noone…at all.
    Eighth: La Milicia Negra (exact score (sadly))
    Ninth: TheToozFan55 (exact score)

    860Todd Christensen Q…Raiders 34……Minny 13
    909RaiderLifer RAIDERS–27 ICE FISHING FOOLS–17
    [BREAKING NEWS] Oakland Raiders 55 Vikings 10
    The Big Banana The Ghost of Al Davis 27 Vikings 20
    big fan Oaktown 41 Minnytown 10
    Blackmamba_20 Raiders 27 Minni 13
    Carl Weathers 34-13 Raiders
    Chris in NY 24-21 … Raiders
    DaTruth91 Raiders 35 Vikes/Dikes 14
    DeuceDeuce Raiders 27 Vikings 24
    DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL OAKLAND 8 MINNESOTA 6
    DonManoukiansNeighbor Raiders 38-21
    DMAC Raiders 31 Viqueens 10
    1eyedpirate Raiders 31 VikIngs 20
    ElkGRaider Oaktown 28 Michelle Bachmans 20
    exlaraiderseasonticketholder 27-24 Raiders
    fingers Raiders…35…….Minnys…27……
    GG Raiders 34 Vikings 24
    Jesus Raiders 27 vikings 17
    JLofty Raiders 28. – Viks 20
    Just Fire Baby Raiders 27 Vikings 20
    Lowdown_in_Beijing Raiders 34 Vikings 7 (due to 3 PI penalties)
    mcfadden20 RAIDERS 34-13
    Method To My Madness Raiders 28 Vikings 17
    MiamiRaider78 Raiders 31 Vikings 21
    Neilb 17-13 Raiders.Defence on top.
    PlunkforHOF Raiders 38 Dykes 10
    Pretty Rick Raiders-31 Vikes-20
    r8eray 27-20 Raiders
    raiderinparadise 37 to 27 RAIDERSSSSSSSSSSSSS
    raidermarty RAIDERS 30 viqueens 20
    RaiderRetribution Raiders 31 – Minnesota 17
    RaiderRockstar Oakland 14 Purple PeePee Eaters 13
    RaiderRetribution Raiders 31 – Minnesota 17.
    saladfingerz raids 24 vikes 17
    Silverandblack666 Raiders 31 Minn 13
    SilverAndBlackBleeder Raiders 41 Vikings 20
    Sullivan44 Raiders 31, Vikings 24.
    TheToozFan55 Raiders 31 Vikes 10