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If given time, Palmer should carve up Vikings

Checking in for Steve Corkran, who took the trip to Minnesota while I tend to things on the home front. The plan is for me to do the live chat during Sunday’s game . . .

The Minnesota Vikings were already one of the NFL’s worst teams defending the pass even before losing their best player for the season.

The loss of Antoine Winfield to a broken collarbone in last week’s 45-7 mugging against the Green Bay Packers makes the problem even worse.

Aaron Rodgers did as he pleased against Minnesota, and make no mistake, the Raiders are not the Packers and aren’t likely to be so any time soon. But they made great strides as a passing offense against San Diego, as Carson Palmer’s 14-for-20, 299-yard performance against the Chargers will attest.

Minnesota is is giving up 272.8 yards per game through the air, ranked No. 30 in the league. True, yardage isn’t everything, but the Vikings have also surrendered 18 touchdown passes with six interceptions and an opposing quarterback rating of 101.7. Only the winless Colts (109.7) are worse.

The key will be controlling the noise factor and keeping defensive end Jared Allen reasonably under control. Allen enjoyed some of his best games with Kansas City against the Raiders, and at this point is playing better than ever, as detailed by colleague Mark Emmons in Saturday’s print editions.

Palmer acknowledged losing Winfield hurts the Vikings.

“It definitely changes things,” Palmer said. “He’s been a great player in this league for a long time. He can play all over the place, in the slot, outside, he can blitz, cover and tackle. Losing him was definitely a hit for them.”

Palmer allowed for the fact that an unknown could emerge and play the game of his life at any time, but Winfield isn’t the only issue. Cornerback Chris Cook is out while he sorts out domestic battery charges and safety Hussain Abdullah has a concussion last week. Veteran Bennie Sapp was signed for depth.

WHAT ABOUT DHB?

A leaky Minnesota secondary, combined with the absence of Jacoby Ford with a foot injury, could mean some action for Darrius Heyward-Bey. In the midst of a season that was somewhat of a breakthrough _ he’d only reached the end zone once but had become consistently productive _ Heyward-Bey has disappeared from view for the past two games.

Heyward-Bey played little against Denver _ a position-group issue, according to coach Hue Jackson _ and was blanked against San Diego.

No big deal, insist Palmer and Jackson.

“We don’t really have a leading receiver, a guy that’s going to catch 100 balls,” Palmer said. “We have a bunch of good players, and sometimes it’s their week, sometimes it’s another player’s week. So we’re always hoping someone steps up and makes plays. Last week it was Denarius (Moore). Who knows who it will be this week?”

Asked if this could be the week for Heyward-Bey to re-emerge, Jackson invented a new word: “I don’t think he de-emerged. Sometimes that’s the way it happens. The ball just didn’t go there. I think he’s going to be OK. He’s playing, and he’ll get his opportunities. Sometimes the defense dictates otherwise, but I expect Darrius Heyward-Bey to have a big game. I do.”

TRAP GAME

Jackson was dismissing talk of the Vikings being a “trap game” and for good reason. The Raiders haven’t proven they’re good enough to even qualify for a track game. Only a team that routine stacks wins together should be considered worthy of looking ahead.

“There are no trap games in the NFL,” Jackson said. “When you lose, you lose, when you win, you win. If we lose, it won’t be because it’s a trap, it’s because that team whipped our butt.”

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  • DKnight007

    # ElkGRaider Says:
    November 19th, 2011 at 7:53 pm

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  • armond

    83.YoungAmerican Says:
    November 19th, 2011 at 6:37 pm
    AP is always dangerous, but the Raiders need to not let Ponder get outside the pocket and extend plays with his feet.

    On a college football note: Raiders should look at USC LB Chris Gallipo with one of their late-round picks. Fast, athletic playmaker and a solid tackler who should contribute right away on special teams. He’s played impressive football all season.
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    everything u said is what ive been thinking for the last 2 weeks about ponder. gallipo is who i have watched for awhile now too. he is very underrated with a good amount of starting experience.

  • DKnight007

    Gallipo huh? Let me start scouting him.

    I also want to see the Raiders get another NT/UT type in the draft who is strong, athletic and physical in rounds 3 or 4.

  • ElkGRaider

    Yep…yep…thanks DKnight

  • JLofty

    Tooz, the culdesac gives you the advantage so much its like a buffet. You have so much to choose from:
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    Water balloons w/ hydochloric acid is always a fav.
    Silenced 9mil, take out a few tires, chase disabled truck, drag 1 mfkr out and double tap 2 into the asphalt next to his pointy lil head, let him run away with soggy crotched jeans…
    Lots of choices here.

  • JLofty

    Raiders 28. – Viks 20
    Code Black in effect, @ Plunk’s….
    Hasta!

  • http://yeah [BREAKING NEWS]

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  • JLofty

    Or Tooz if u want to be legit u can buy a motion camera hunters use for $150 complete with ir for night pix for id’ing the vehicle. Mount it anywhere. Heck just set it against a rock near the road…

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  • PlunkforHOF

    JLofty Says:
    November 19th, 2011 at 8:50 pm
    Raiders 28. – Viks 20
    Code Black in effect, @ Plunk’s….
    Hasta!

    ****************************************

    You know it J! Got some chili slow cooking all night. One of my roomies brothers is a Vikes fan.. I invited him so we may have a whipping boy lol.. GO RAIDERS!!

    and yes,

    CODE BLACK remains in effect

  • YoungAmerican

    RGIII…

  • PlunkforHOF

    Breaking News is all about CODE BLACK

  • DKnight007

    Some 3rd-5th round DT’s I like are:

    Tydreke Powell from N.C. 6’3, 310

    Deangelo Tyson from Georgia 6’2, 310

    JR Sweezy from NC STATE 6’5, 295

    Derek Wolfe from Cinncy 6’5, 300

    Kendall Reyes from UConn 6’4, 290

  • DKnight007

    What # is Gallipo?

  • http://yeah [BREAKING NEWS]

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    November 19th, 2011 at 9:02 pm
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  • DKnight007

    Oh yeah #54 Gallipo..I like him….would love to see Raiders draft him in Round 3 if they can!

  • No Mas Diamante

    Raids 32 – viks17

  • No Mas Diamante

    Look for other WR’s to get involved tomorrow. Chaz might have a big game. Tawain is going to go off. In fact, he’s going to out perform Peterson. Print that. No. Etch it it stone… I have spoken.

  • PlunkforHOF

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  • http://ibabuss.com antispy3

    Matt barkley backed into University of Spoiled Children’s almost impressive win over Oregon. . .the late pick & fumble in the shadows of the Oregon goalpost erased a lot of good he portrayed with his earlier performance. . .not a clutch performer. . .

    On the other hand RG III led Baylor down the field in a tie contest against a 25 MPH wind to throw a 34 yard pass on the money (all his throws on the final possession were on the money. As were all his decisions on the final drive. Looked like a right handed, bigger Michael Vick; just like I said a coupla months back. I’ve never wavered. He’s my favorite) with eight seconds left on the clock, bailing out his kicker & leading their impressive (first victory for Baylor EVER over Oklahoma. How ’bout that? Oh, and overcoming ACL surgery, all the doubters. . .too bad he won’t be in the Silver & Black)victory. He is versatile, talented, committed to success & just a born leader. Just like Mike. . .not Matt. . .

  • PlunkforHOF

    I’m out.. enjoy the game tomorrow my friends..

    CODE BLACK!!!

  • YoungAmerican

    Some mid-to-late round prospects I like:

    DT Tydreke Powell (3-4)
    CB Leonard Johnson (3-4)
    DE Jake Bequette (4-5)
    LB Chris Galippo (5-6)
    S Harrison Smith (5-6)

    Some great college ball being played right now, for sure. It’s been an interesting season.

  • YoungAmerican

    Galippo is #54.

  • Thec07

    Antispy3 Says:
    November 19th, 2011 at 9:18 pm
    Matt barkley backed into University of Spoiled Children’s almost impressive win over Oregon. . .the late pick & fumble in the shadows of the Oregon goalpost erased a lot of good he portrayed with his earlier performance. . .not a clutch performer. . .

    On the other hand RG III led Baylor down the field in a tie contest against a 25 MPH wind to throw a 34 yard pass on the money (all his throws on the final possession were on the money. As were all his decisions on the final drive. Looked like a right handed, bigger Michael Vick; just like I said a coupla months back. I’ve never wavered. He’s my favorite) with eight seconds left on the clock, bailing out his kicker & leading their impressive (first victory for Baylor EVER over Oklahoma. How ’bout that? Oh, and overcoming ACL surgery, all the doubters. . .too bad he won’t be in the Silver & Black)victory. He is versatile, talented, committed to success & just a born leader. Just like Mike. . .not Matt. . .

    +++++++++++++

    Truth… I like RGIII, he throws a very accurate nice ball…Has good footwork in the pocket….

  • http://ibabuss.com antispy3

    This would be CArson’s fourth pre-season game.

    Seeing that his third pre season contest, usually the most important, was a mitigated success (just ask the Dischargers), I think he will be even more successful against the Lady of the Lakes (Vikings). . .

    Raiders 34 Vikings 13

    Bush 27 carries, 134 yards Taiwan Jones 12 carries (+ one game breaker) 87 yards one TD

    AP 24 carries 81 yards one TD. . .

  • Raiders for life

    CODE BLACK 2011

  • CanuckRaider

    Good football chili story from days of yore:
    A bunch of buds come to my place to watch a game. One buddy brings a pot of this arse burning chili he was famous for. Another buddy wolfs down a couple of bowls and many brews then hops on his rigid-frame “Snortin’” Norton for the long ride home. He picks up this hot chick hitch-hiking on the way and she agrees to go home with him. All good until the chili, beers and the jarring of the rigid frame cause him to have a wee accident in his trousers. Next thing the chick’s yelling to let her off…No nookie for him that night needless to say.
    GO RAIDERS!!!!!

  • armond

    is powell #91 from north carolina? if so then yeah thats a good player to look at. i saw him last year and wondered when he was coming out. we might draft another wr depending on whether we bring chaz back. marvin jones is so underrated. he makes some crazy catches and can get down the field. need to start looking at some speedy and athletic de’s as well.

  • mcfadden20.

    Raiders for win

  • GoodOle00

    Cap’n Jack- Jay Alan Levy’s keys to victory over the Vikes…

    http://www.raidernationstation.com/raider_huddle

  • GoodOle00

    I think its going to be more pass than run but whatever gets the job done. We NEED this W…

  • mcfadden20.

    Code black 11 hours to go :) can’t fall asleep

  • mcfadden20.

    Why can’t the time go faster

  • JB

    We need this WIN badly.

    We need to start paying consistently.

    We need to get all our players healthy.

    We need to win the AFC-West division and get to the playoffs.

    We need to assert our dominance and to play our best disciplined ball.

    We need to see all of AD’s picks flourish and be all they can be.

    We need to see Palmer take us to the next level & then, the Big Game.

    We need to win all the big games and to take our place at the top of the food chain.

    We do all this by working hard and playing the ENTIRE game.

    We need to start our winning streak tomorrow.

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  • R8derdiehard

    Lets kill it tommorow nation…… RAAAAAAIIIIDDDEEEEERRRRRRSSS

  • lefty12

    OO-I tend to agree.I think hue will let his new toy(CP) loose and I don’t care,as long as we get the W.

  • lefty12

    Their defensive backfield is in worse shape than ours injury wise.It would make sense to exploit it.In turn,that would open up the run game.To me,it falls on our defense.Play a decent game and we should take care of business and come home with the W.

  • beach

    Hurt Adrian Peterson. Beat the crap out of the Vikings. They are a terrible team!

  • beach

    60 minutes of hell! This is a must win for a team that wants to be a contender!

  • http://yeah [BREAKING NEWS] THIS JUST IN

    [..] several players from the Vikings [..] checked into the ER late Saturday night and early Sunday morning [..] uncontrolable bowel movements cause for concern [..] no laughing matter [..] one Doctor who has asked to remain annonymous [..] players appear to be scared shiltless of this afternoons game against the Oakland Raiders……………..

  • GoodOle00

    141. Agreed

  • Raider 510

    126.Thec07 Says:
    November 19th, 2011 at 9:22 pm
    Antispy3 Says:
    November 19th, 2011 at 9:18 pm
    Matt barkley backed into University of Spoiled Children’s almost impressive win over Oregon. . .the late pick & fumble in the shadows of the Oregon goalpost erased a lot of good he portrayed with his earlier performance. . .not a clutch performer. . .

    On the other hand RG III led Baylor down the field in a tie contest against a 25 MPH wind to throw a 34 yard pass on the money (all his throws on the final possession were on the money. As were all his decisions on the final drive. Looked like a right handed, bigger Michael Vick; just like I said a coupla months back. I’ve never wavered. He’s my favorite) with eight seconds left on the clock, bailing out his kicker & leading their impressive (first victory for Baylor EVER over Oklahoma. How ’bout that? Oh, and overcoming ACL surgery, all the doubters. . .too bad he won’t be in the Silver & Black)victory. He is versatile, talented, committed to success & just a born leader. Just like Mike. . .not Matt. . .

    +++++++++++++

    Truth… I like RGIII, he throws a very accurate nice ball…Has good footwork in the pocket….

    —————————-
    Not to mention his eyes are always down field. Sign of a true pocket passer.

  • ravenaider

    beach Says:
    November 19th, 2011 at 11:28 pm
    60 minutes of hell! This is a must win for a team that wants to be a contender!
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    NO DOUBT! We need to play back to back consistant games…I can almost taste the AFC West title

  • ravenaider

    Just listening to NFL Weekly show.Boomer Esaiason picks the Raiders to win? That doesn’t happen too often

  • RaiderTiv

    It takes some players longer than others to develop into awesome players. Look at how long we had to wait for Huff to come around.
    DHB is in his 3rd season! Yes, he started to show some promise. But, maybe not as fast as the Coaches would have liked.
    Personally, I would prefer we keep DHB another season and let Chaz Schilens go, He is in his 4th season and not productive at all….and he is made of glass.

  • eastoaklandraider

    We need to come out passing to loosen up their run D which is pretty good spread’em out and make them put their worst db’s on the field keep tight end in to help veldeer and let CP3 do his thing. On D its simple 8 men in the box an blitz ponder from all angles. We must start fast on offense to quiet the crowd. Don’t punt to harvin. Run blitz AP. And this should be an easy game. Oh yeah don’t forget about shancoe let huff or branch man up on him while MM34 comes on blitz after blitz.

  • fingers

    Just Beat The Minnys…….

    Raiders 35…….Minnys 27….

  • raidermarty

    Another one of those “should win” games. It’s another opportunity to move forward in our development. Personally i like our chances here. Palmer will bomb them into submission-
    RAIDERS 30
    viqueens 20