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If given time, Palmer should carve up Vikings

Checking in for Steve Corkran, who took the trip to Minnesota while I tend to things on the home front. The plan is for me to do the live chat during Sunday’s game . . .

The Minnesota Vikings were already one of the NFL’s worst teams defending the pass even before losing their best player for the season.

The loss of Antoine Winfield to a broken collarbone in last week’s 45-7 mugging against the Green Bay Packers makes the problem even worse.

Aaron Rodgers did as he pleased against Minnesota, and make no mistake, the Raiders are not the Packers and aren’t likely to be so any time soon. But they made great strides as a passing offense against San Diego, as Carson Palmer’s 14-for-20, 299-yard performance against the Chargers will attest.

Minnesota is is giving up 272.8 yards per game through the air, ranked No. 30 in the league. True, yardage isn’t everything, but the Vikings have also surrendered 18 touchdown passes with six interceptions and an opposing quarterback rating of 101.7. Only the winless Colts (109.7) are worse.

The key will be controlling the noise factor and keeping defensive end Jared Allen reasonably under control. Allen enjoyed some of his best games with Kansas City against the Raiders, and at this point is playing better than ever, as detailed by colleague Mark Emmons in Saturday’s print editions.

Palmer acknowledged losing Winfield hurts the Vikings.

“It definitely changes things,” Palmer said. “He’s been a great player in this league for a long time. He can play all over the place, in the slot, outside, he can blitz, cover and tackle. Losing him was definitely a hit for them.”

Palmer allowed for the fact that an unknown could emerge and play the game of his life at any time, but Winfield isn’t the only issue. Cornerback Chris Cook is out while he sorts out domestic battery charges and safety Hussain Abdullah has a concussion last week. Veteran Bennie Sapp was signed for depth.

WHAT ABOUT DHB?

A leaky Minnesota secondary, combined with the absence of Jacoby Ford with a foot injury, could mean some action for Darrius Heyward-Bey. In the midst of a season that was somewhat of a breakthrough _ he’d only reached the end zone once but had become consistently productive _ Heyward-Bey has disappeared from view for the past two games.

Heyward-Bey played little against Denver _ a position-group issue, according to coach Hue Jackson _ and was blanked against San Diego.

No big deal, insist Palmer and Jackson.

“We don’t really have a leading receiver, a guy that’s going to catch 100 balls,” Palmer said. “We have a bunch of good players, and sometimes it’s their week, sometimes it’s another player’s week. So we’re always hoping someone steps up and makes plays. Last week it was Denarius (Moore). Who knows who it will be this week?”

Asked if this could be the week for Heyward-Bey to re-emerge, Jackson invented a new word: “I don’t think he de-emerged. Sometimes that’s the way it happens. The ball just didn’t go there. I think he’s going to be OK. He’s playing, and he’ll get his opportunities. Sometimes the defense dictates otherwise, but I expect Darrius Heyward-Bey to have a big game. I do.”

TRAP GAME

Jackson was dismissing talk of the Vikings being a “trap game” and for good reason. The Raiders haven’t proven they’re good enough to even qualify for a track game. Only a team that routine stacks wins together should be considered worthy of looking ahead.

“There are no trap games in the NFL,” Jackson said. “When you lose, you lose, when you win, you win. If we lose, it won’t be because it’s a trap, it’s because that team whipped our butt.”

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  • mcskinnnylegs

    raaaaaaiiiidddaaaaassssss!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Pretty Rick

    Raiders-30 Vikings-17
    Let’s Go!

  • mcfadden20.

    Raiders4 hours and 8 minute till code blacK

  • Carl Weathers

    I predict all the mediots that I don’t listen to will be swinging from CP’s sack tomorrow…

    Raider 34-10 Biqueens.

  • fingers

    Raiiiiddddeeeerrrsssss ….. Just Destroy…

    Beat the Minnys..

  • Chris in NY

    Lots of reasons to worry about this one:
    - No McFadden
    - No Ford
    - First dome game all year
    - On the road
    - Adrien Peterson vs. our inconsistent D
    - We’re 5-4, they’re 2-7, yet this game is now a pick’em, after opening at Raiders -1. In my experience, games when a line doesn’t reflect the enormous disparity in teams’ records, and there are no other extenuating circumstances such as one team resting its starters at the end of the year or a star QB is out, the outcome of the game usually favors the team with the lesser record. Goes back to the ‘smart money’ or Vegas seeing something with that team that drives the line down.

    Still, I do feel pretty confident about this one right now. No real specific reason. Just a gut feeling that we are indeed the better team and will show up today to play.

  • John Jarndyce

    I have a feeling Palmer is going to get injured today. Can you imagine how terrible that would be? No playoffs for a Boller led team. Would have to watch Tebow lead the Broncos to the playoffs. I would puke.

  • fingers

    The Raiders must put a string of wins together….
    That must Start today…….

    Destroy the Minnys…..

  • Carl Weathers

    ~ Minny has 2 starting CB’s and Safety out. They picked up Benny Sapp to add depth.

    ~ We have Ford out but still have Moore, DHB, Chaz, Murphy, Housh & Boss.

    I like this matchup.

    We have given up 11 sacks in 9 games, The young O-line knows they have a challenge today unlike last week, I think they want to prove they are legit.

  • Chris in NY

    Good points, CW.

  • Carl Weathers

    Chris, I think the line being what is, is due to teams usually bouncing back after a serious ass whoopin.

    I see the line is now +1 Raiders… I hope it climbs to +2.5 or even +3. I’ll be taking an alt spread of -2.5 for good coin. Right now -2.5 pays 2.20…

  • fingers

    Gotta go with the better Qb…. Palmer will put up the points to win this one….
    The defense needs to play like they did aginst the chokers…be consistent…

    This is a game a playoff team needs to win….
    Destroy the Minnys….

  • Carl Weathers

    You know it Fingers! If you wanna play with the big boys, this one should be had.

  • fingers

    The Raiders a good road team…. Noise isn’t gonna be the problem…… They need to play smart and keep the penalties down…

  • Chris in NY

    Really hope we get Taiwan Jones more involved this week. Fast track — he played his college games on turf — and we need to get it to a new home run hitter with DMC and Ford out.

  • http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo249/the408RAIDER/749px-I-420svg.png 408RAIDER

    Morning Nation.

    Huge test for the oline today. I hope Bush is better in pass protection.

  • Kirk

    165.Chris in NY Says:
    November 20th, 2011 at 6:21 am
    Really hope we get Taiwan Jones more involved this week. Fast track — he played his college games on turf — and we need to get it to a new home run hitter with DMC and Ford out.

    …………………………………..

    Exactly what I was thinking.

    The Raiders have speed, and we are playing on turf with a legitimate quarterback for the first time in 8 years. Should be fun.

  • Dakota

    Game Day baby!

    Why am I not at this game? Minneapolis isn’t that far from me. About 10 hours away. DOH!

  • Just Fire Baby

    Why does it seem like we haven’t played in forever??

    Does those 2 extra days make that big of a difference?

    Guess so. Anyways, will Lochness Campbell be active today?

  • Hagar the Horrible

    Good morning Raiders loyalist.

    As you know, on paper we win, but on past performance there are question marks.

    A win today, on the road, against any team is big and a solid performance by all will acknowledge that we can be for real and a contender as well.

  • John Jarndyce

    Tom Jackson is such a biased ass h*le.

  • RaidingTexas

    Game day, Nation!!!

  • raiderjhawk

    Raiders 34
    Vikes 16

    I think Housh gets his first td today, I could see Moore getting 2 more today as well.

    Big Day for Carson Bomber!

  • DonManoukiansNeighbor

    Carson Bomber cleared for take off.

  • HitManMorris

    “Aaron Rodgers did as he pleased against Minnesota, and make no mistake, the Raiders are not the Packers and aren’t likely to be so any time soon.”

    “The Raiders haven’t proven they’re good enough to even qualify for a track game.”

    And this PRICK is doing the chat today?

    Eat his ass up Nation!

  • http://repealitnow.org MistaBrown

    With Ford out that means we are stuck with alligator arms Murphy? Uggggggggggggg….sack up viagra junky

  • DonManoukiansNeighbor

    DHB= Denarius Hella Better

  • DonManoukiansNeighbor

    Im going to say Murphy shows up today. As well as Boss.

  • Just Fire Baby

    I think Meyers may catch more passes than Boss today.

    Meyers is the better blocker, and thus on the field more.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Thec,

    Still never got an email back from you.

    So let’s try it this way, email me at:

    raidersfanlv@yahoo.com

  • DonManoukiansNeighbor

    Wahts the over/under on penalties?

  • http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXj7I1RzLSE&feature=related exlaraiderseasonticketholder

    Dakota, I gave JerryMac a few good places to eat in the Twin Cities and Steve is going instead. I lived there for 4 yrs and they have some great places to eat.

  • VanHeathen

    Morning NATION!
    It does seem like forever since we’ve played a game…

    Just WIN Baby!

  • Raider Dell

    JFB

    What’s your excuse for RG3 today? Last week you said he wasn’t able to make any plays, yet brought back BU and beat Kansas.

    Yesterday, with the media and many gave BU no chance to win, he carved up OU and the rest is history.

    When RG3 goes to the combine, he will turn heads with his workout. Luck has all the media hype, RG3 is the best QB.

  • http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXj7I1RzLSE&feature=related exlaraiderseasonticketholder

    168.Dakota Says:
    November 20th, 2011 at 6:41 am
    Game Day baby!

    Why am I not at this game? Minneapolis isn’t that far from me. About 10 hours away. DOH!

    ==========================================
    I used to go to Rapid City 3 times a year and on my way back, got a ticket in Worthington. Wall Drug, and the Corn Palace. Not much else until Sioux Falls. Long f8cken drive.

  • Carl Weathers

    Bush needs 125 yards to pass DMC. If he gets it, we win. Come on BUUUUUUUUUUUUSH!

  • http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXj7I1RzLSE&feature=related exlaraiderseasonticketholder

    Had an account in Spearfish too.

  • http://repealitnow.org MistaBrown

    Depends if R Seymour plays or not.
    _____

    DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
    November 20th, 2011 at 8:20 am

    Wahts the over/under on penalties?

  • elraidmanhattan

    Getting ready for the game, perfect situation for the raiders, fast turf, no wind. I expect an offensive explosion today.

  • http://repealitnow.org MistaBrown

    Fk R Seymour

    Start Bryant & Kelly, rotate in Hendu

  • http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders r8eray

    GM Raider Nation!!!

    408!

  • http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXj7I1RzLSE&feature=related exlaraiderseasonticketholder

    Sometimes, I would go to Aberdeen. Nothing on the radio except the crop reports and Paul Harvey and the News. Felt out of place as I had no gunrack in the back. lol

  • http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders r8eray

    Vegas!

  • Carl Weathers

    JFB, you eat to many hot dogs, it’s Myers not Meyers. Boss is a pretty good blocker too, but you’re right that Myers gets a lot of snaps because Hue must feel he’s the better blocker. That or Boss is not 100% from the concussion.

  • http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXj7I1RzLSE&feature=related exlaraiderseasonticketholder

    Need Seymour. He occupies a lot of space.

  • http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders r8eray

    On my way to the Cannery….”Show me the money!”

  • Just Fire Baby

    Last week, the first 3 quarters he looked like crap. KU was dead last in total defense out of 120 college teams.

    But his last 5 quarters were spectacular. I think he will amaze at the combine with everything but his size. He gets plowed like he is 6 foot 190, instead of the 6’2 225 he is listed at.

    Love his intelligence, toughness and athleticism, but I like to mock the guys who think he is the best QB in the draft.

    He will be at best the 3rd QB off the board.

    For my money, I would rather have Aaron Murray over LUck, Barkley and RG III.

  • Carl Weathers

    190.MistaBrown Says:
    November 20th, 2011 at 8:27 am
    Fk R Seymour

    Start Bryant & Kelly, rotate in Hendu

    @@@@@@@@@@@

    Bryant needs the play RDE. He’s been doing very well vs. the run.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Ray,

    Did you get any Moneyline action on SC?

  • Just Fire Baby

    JFB, you eat to many hot dogs, it’s Myers not Meyers.

    ***********************

    I could give TK a run for his money on the chili-dog tip.