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Jared Veldheer takes care of Jared Allen

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Sunday, November 20th, 2011 at 4:01 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Last time I can remember a Raiders’ tackle having such a decisive win over a dominant pass rusher was 2001, when right tackle Lincoln Kennedy made Michael Strahan disappear into the Meadowlands in a 28-10 win over the Giants.

Jared Veldheer took care of Vikings pass rusher Jared Allen, stopping his streak of games with at least a half sack in the first nine games of the season. Veldheer did get one holding call, but it prevented Allen getting to Carson Palmer, so it was more than worth it.

“That was one of my goals, not just to keep sacks off the board but to keep him out of there, in general,” Veldheer told reporters afterwards. “You’re not allowed to put any pressure on the quartergback or let alone touch the guy. That was my mindset going in.”

Some more notes and observations from the comfort of my home while Steve Corkran takes care of the print stuff today:

– Twelve more penalties for 117 yards, and judging from the amount of time devoted to the topic on today’s on-line chat, fans are livid. Livid with the Raiders for the penalties. Livid with the officials for calling them. Livid with Hue Jackson for not being able to stop them.

Jackson took a different post-game tact, going on the offensive and saying he would talk to the league rather than having his own team accept full responsibility. Most Raiders coaches drift into that realm from time to time, the victims of frustration and what they feel is an uneven playing field.

Makes sense in that Jackson should stick up for his guys, as long as he keeps in mind most of the Raiders problems with penalties are of their own making.

The Raiders are runaway leaders in both penalties (103) and penalty yards (892) through 10 games.

– Hard to fathom the Raiders had a 27-7 lead, Adrian Peterson out of the game, Allen under control and the game squarely in the hands of Christian Ponder _ and then had to hold on by their fingernails.

The penalties, a costly fumble by Michael Bush, the inability to keep Ponder in the pocket and other miscues all played a role. It will look like 6-4 in the standings, however.

– Some big time performances today from backup tight end Brandon Myers, who forced a fumble on a kickoff with a big hit, and made spectacular catch for a 21-yard gain on Carson Palmer’s longest pass play of the game.

– An even, measured no-turnover game from Palmer. Vikings patchwork secondary actually held up fairly well, forcing Palmer to throw short to medium depth routes instead of striking deep. Gorgeous throw to Chaz Schillens on the 11-hyard touchdown pass in the second quarter.

– It’s been a breakout year for Tyvon Branch, whose special teams play cost the Vikings a shot at a field goal and who covered exceptionally well. Keep in mind Branch was beaten often last season either through his own coverage issues or miscommunication problems with teammates. It’s a distant memory at this point. He might be the Raiders’ best defensive player at this point.

– The 124 yards rushing and 5.2 yards per carry average against the Vikings was deceiving with Ponder getting 71 yards on scrambles. Peterson, before he was hurt, and Toby Gerhart gained 44 yards on 13 carries (3.4 yards per carry).

– It used to be the Raiders blackouts were on local television. Now they’re in the fourth quarter. The Raiders scored their last points in the fourth quarter with 10 minutes to go against Houston on a Sebastian Janikowski field goal.

That was 85 minutes ago _ the last 10 minutes against the Texans and five consecutive goose eggs against Cleveland, Kansas City, Denver, San Diego and Minnesota.

– Center Samson Satele didn’t finish the game with a concussion, with Stefen Wisniewski moving over from left guard and Stephon Heyer taking over for Wisniewski.

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310 Responses to “Jared Veldheer takes care of Jared Allen”

  1. Mrs. Beeecham Says:

    Ouch. Such a nasty itch.

  2. Mrs. Beeecham Says:

    The doctor at the clinic tried to tell me it’s fruit flies. I slapped him for that. That old man of mine brought somethin home. I know he did.

  3. Sullivan44 Says:

    ArmChair GM Says:
    November 20th, 2011 at 3:56 pm
    _______________________________________________________

    Shut up biiich and go make me a sandwich.
    =========
    So let me see if I have this straight.
    I point out you are basically clueless.
    I point out how you wait for others to speak, then state “you said it better than I ever could”
    I point out how you can’t come up with anything in reply, on your own, and are reduced to posting old comments where I said you’re too slow to even bother with?
    and to all that your only reply is get me a sandwich?
    And you aren’t aware how weak you look?
    really?

  4. Mrs. Beeecham Says:

    I anint had no fuit in over forty five years.

  5. edward teach Says:

    The Chargers are unbelievably soft.

    Once teams start playing them physical they just fold up.

    Unless the Bears completely self-distruct this game is over.

  6. Sullivan44 Says:

    Wow. Niners have outscored opponents by 95 pts so far, this year.
    That’s a machine.

  7. PlunkforHOF Says:

    PlunkforHOF Says:
    November 20th, 2011 at 4:04 pm
    Seriously.. do any of the above named recall making that bet? Sully, you’ve lost your mind.. Go clean my garage until you can wag a civil tongue.

  8. mcfadden20. Says:

    Nobody Responds to silly and he reposts his stupid comments how lame

  9. Monster Beeecham Says:

    Look out. I feel a constitution comin. Clear out ya’ll, she is gonna blow. If that toilet is jammed, there is gonna be a hell to pay. Last time I crapped on the floor it stayed there for two weeks.

    GET JIGGITY WIT DAT YA’LL

  10. olinesux Says:

    dischargers suck bear blls

  11. Blackmamba_20 Says:

    locker leading a late comeback

  12. morilla Says:

    The Bears don’t scare me. The Packers do. We have a shot at taking them down next week.

    Just need Kelly to do a belly flop on Cutler.

  13. mcfadden20. Says:

    So lets put the whole day in perspective . 1. Raiders won 2. Chargers lost 3. Pats will handle chiefs tomorrow 4.Sullivan having a meltdown, scrambling for answers == sweet day

  14. GForce21 Says:

    Charged Up! Says:
    November 20th, 2011 at 3:57 pm

    F8ck all you mother f8ckers! you losers dont know sh8t! I f8ck hot babes while you losers sit at home eating buffalo wings and getting fat. Im out of here! F8ck all you b8tches!
    —————————-

    Hahaha, awesome.

    I need to have my wife bring up more ranch for my wings.

  15. olinesux Says:

    rivers wants to cry….

  16. morilla Says:

    Oh my god, Rivers is going to get run out of town tomorrow.

  17. mcfadden20. Says:

    Code black

  18. PlunkforHOF Says:

    Charged Down!! you have a chance!.. Oh… sorry

  19. wasbanned Says:

    cottovic Victor Cotto
    “I just do, & I have to, and I’m going to defend my team. It’s time that I do that.” #Raiders Jackson on poor officiating today v. #Vikings

  20. r8dercain Says:

    Nice way to Hold on raiders. Can we drop the damn penalties

  21. olinesux Says:

    lol…im gonna listen to san diego radio tomorrow and laugh all day…

  22. PlunkforHOF Says:

    I fvcking hate Rivers.. this makes me very happy.

  23. mcfadden20. Says:

    Silly wants to cry to let me know when u give up silly

  24. morilla Says:

    He really is having a sh!TTY year, something is definitely wrong with him and tons of rumors are flying around down here to what it is. This is beyond bad for him.

  25. Hook and Ladder Says:

    Charger breakdown = meltdown.

    Niners = worst 9-1 ever, still suck ass, will be exposed

    Niners = team in the worst division of football ever

    Niners = over rated, soon will be exposed for the ass lickers they are

  26. mcfadden20. Says:

    Raiders ..

  27. edward teach Says:

    Phyllis Rivers is awesome. I just love watching her and her girlfriends choke away another one.

    I don’t care what the preseason predictions say. It’s just impossible to take that team seriously. No wonder Raider fans outnumber them in SD.

  28. marader508 Says:

    #24

    what are the rumors?

  29. PlunkforHOF Says:

    Charged Down?… any final comments?…. take your time… ha

  30. lefty12 Says:

    He doesn’t have a healthy Gates is what is wrong with him.

  31. RaiderDebo Says:

    12.morilla Says:
    November 20th, 2011 at 4:10 pm
    The Bears don’t scare me. The Packers do. We have a shot at taking them down next week.

    Just need Kelly to do a belly flop on Cutler.

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    The Bears should scare you. A lot.

  32. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    HA!

    The look on Norval, and Phillip’s faces is priceless.

    They both looked like they just watched someone kick their cat…lol..

  33. mcfadden20. Says:

    We are balling..

  34. morilla Says:

    1. A rib injury
    2. A shoulder injury
    3. His sixth kid is taking away his focus
    4. He is going through a divorce

  35. olinesux Says:

    gates lost a strp and rivers is scared of getting hit all of a sudden

  36. Blackmamba_20 Says:

    We have an amazing oppurtunity to go to the Playoffs,

    How fcking exciting is that,

    And Palmer is going to get sooo much better the longer he has with the WR Corps,

    So pumped, and boardaline drunk

  37. marader508 Says:

    Bears def. scare me, if we play like we did today…uhhh.But with that being said , its still a very winnable game.

  38. mcfadden20. Says:

    Where’s silly it was so fun picking on that poor guy .. I hope we didn’t damage his brain permanently ..

  39. lefty12 Says:

    The NY Giants knew what they were doing when they traded Rivers for Eli.

  40. morilla Says:

    The Bears should scare you. A lot.
    ————

    And the saying goes, any given Sunday.

  41. Sullivan44 Says:

    http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/291/gaymi8.jpg/sr=1

    Friend of mine partying with new outfit. Little odd, but fun to hang out with.

  42. TerrapinRaider Says:

    Good news for DHB …hope he is able to come back next week strong (maybe a bit optimistic though). He is defintiely coming along. Had some nice catches today.

    REFS REFS REFS …This had to rank up there with one of the worst officiated games I’ve ever seen. That sht was crazy! It shouldn’t have even been that close but when you have officials taking over a game like that …you get the picture.

  43. mcfadden20. Says:

    Code black, all day..

  44. morilla Says:

    Gates is done. His career is over, that injury will never go away. They need to start playing their back up to see what they have.

  45. PlunkforHOF Says:

    morilla Says:
    November 20th, 2011 at 4:17 pm
    1. A rib injury
    2. A shoulder injury
    3. His sixth kid is taking away his focus
    4. He is going through a divorce
    5. Sextape
    6. Hemerroids
    7. Has joined a cult
    8. Gender issues

  46. mcfadden20. Says:

    Uh poor silly is back lol … Hes a bad scramblers for answers hope it’s good silly let’s hear em

  47. morilla Says:

    Gender issues, hahahahahaha

  48. mcfadden20. Says:

    Sorry for the abuse today silly we will still let u become fan of the best team , only if u were not gay

  49. morilla Says:

    Oline, are you down here too?

  50. The Real Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Next week, Chargers will be my second favorite team. Time to shut Tebow down.

  51. mcfadden20. Says:

    Gender issues that’s a good one , reminds of done guy named silly who likes to take it up the butt ok raiders blog

  52. marios Says:

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8244d9fb/article/raiders-jackson-bashes-refs-after-12-penalties-for-117-yards?module=HP11_MYNFL

    JACKSON’S COMMENTS

  53. olinesux Says:

    nah just like hearing xtra sports on internet radio because of the excuses they use!

  54. PlunkforHOF Says:

    Jeez MR… really?… -sigh-

  55. lefty12 Says:

    Rivers has always just thrown the ball up and had his receivers go up and make plays.Now,he doesn’t have the receivers that are able-willing-to fight for those jump balls and they are being intercepted.

  56. mcfadden20. Says:

    Code black = Raiders stomp on their opponents and Raider Natiom stomps on the haters.0

  57. Method To My Madness Says:

    CODE BLACK!

  58. PlunkforHOF Says:

    B@uce! Sweet game

  59. mcfadden20. Says:

    Nice talking to you fellow fans .. C u guys later

  60. PlunkforHOF Says:

    later mac

  61. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    hbryant42 Chargers produced 0 yards in fourth quarter vs. Bears. This is not a misprint.
    11 minutes ago

  62. Sullivan44 Says:

    Amazing Niners still have two games against rams, and one each against seattle and arizona. A record like 9-1 and still have only played two games in the division? A team on the rise that’s just going to get better and better. You know you want to back the Niners like I do. I can tell. some of you are afraid of ridicule. To hell with the doubters. Just stand up like a man and declare your allegiance.
    GO NINERS!!

  63. MikieG Says:

    Jerry Macs absurd assertions aside (that great teams overcome horrible officiating). The Raiders got screwed left and right by BS CALLS. Of course some were warranted but Tommy Kelly’s was horsecrap and so was the one on Curry, the TE was not defenseless, he was making a move upfield. If you are going to make split second calls on split second movements, then you are going to be wrong 75% of the time. Today these officials didn’t even know what down it was.
    That tells you everything you need to know about the ability of these horrible refs today. Total garbage and f’ you Jerry if you don’t realize and/or discount the effectiveness of the 13 th man tomf up an otherwise good game being played by men. JEEZUS H!

  64. TerrapinRaider Says:

    If you want a conspiracy …refs were paid off this game. Oakland only favored by 1pt? And then you get all those BS calls in one game? Either these refs were drunk or in someone’s pockets.

  65. Sullivan44 Says:

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 20th, 2011 at 4:22 pm

    Sorry for the abuse today silly
    ==========
    You silly girl. You didn’t say anything. How do you figure that as abuse? go get your chores done.

  66. lefty12 Says:

    Mike-we overcame horrible officiating today,did we not?

  67. Kirk Says:

    Our ineffectiveness in the fourth quarter is troubling.

  68. olinesux Says:

    preach it mikie!

  69. silverback Says:

    Tough to build momentum and confidence when you keep winning by the skin of your teeth. The o-line continues to impress, so I remain hopeful the offense can become a powerhouse when McFadden returns. It would have been crazy to come out throwing in the second half but three straight three and outs is not good. Hue needs to have more contingency plans for these situations.

  70. TheToozFan55 Says:

    I hope someone does look at those calls today and fine those refs (yeah, right). But it’s good that Hue is standing up for the guys. Man, i thought we were gonna choke at the end of that game………….whew……….that wasn’t pretty, but i’ll take it. Glad DHB was able to travel with the team. That was a scary looking situation. YES!!!! Chargers lost!!!!!!! We’re two games up on them….an earlier poster has it right. we gotta root for the Chargers next week.

  71. Sullivan44 Says:

    What did Hue say in the pc today? I hear it’s going to cost him some bucks.

  72. PlunkforHOF Says:

    Finally a true statement of devotion from MR as to where his loyalty lies. The next time he EVER says “we” as far as the Oakland Raiders or his deep down conviction that he is a critical Raider fan is proven to be a lie..

  73. morilla Says:

    That drive that was littered with flags was complete BS. It was a clean hit by Mitchell ( I think that was Mitchell) that was not a late hit!!! We always get called for those and I see other teams constantly getting away with those. It WAS NOT a facemask. I have it taped and watched it 3 times. No where near the grill.

    Those refs should be benched. Good for Hue for opening his mouth on this one.

  74. PlunkforHOF Says:

    MR.. really.. how many times have I caught you on this schit? Are you a believer in the idea that the more you repeat a lie, the more people there are who will believe it?

  75. Sullivan44 Says:

    I’m a Niner fan and a Raider fan. One team knows how to win. One team knows how to find ways to either lose, or make weak teams look good.

  76. 445rahal Says:

    Hue was yeilling at one of his assistants. looked funny. i wonder what he was saying to him. he looked pissed. a win is always a win.Moore Boss is more good. lol. Mayers made a big play and caused the fumble. we dont need Seymore. he’s way overrated.I think DHB is done for the season. He would be scared catching passes from now on. the same case happend to Murphy and J.L.Higgens when they got hit real bad they are not the same anymore. Should cut him or resign him for cheap. Jano should take care of himself from now on. he has to start training like a pro in the off season.

  77. TerrapinRaider Says:

    Those refs seemed hell bent on making it a game. I’m still dumbfounded over many of those calls.

    Oh well, 1st place in the AFC West. Keep it comin’

  78. RaiderDebo Says:

    69.silverback Says:
    November 20th, 2011 at 4:35 pm
    Tough to build momentum and confidence when you keep winning by the skin of your teeth. The o-line continues to impress, so I remain hopeful the offense can become a powerhouse when McFadden returns. It would have been crazy to come out throwing in the second half but three straight three and outs is not good. Hue needs to have more contingency plans for these situations.

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Hue was just protecting the team from game-changing, 4th-qtr interceptions by the league leader in that category. Brilliant strategy. Bush just can’t fumble next time.

  79. JT Says:

    1- Agree with Hue about talking to the league about the penaltys. there were some really bad and almost intended calls against the raiders D.

    2- Palmer is probably the best pure passer since what raider qb? Stabler? he is very accurate… The only problem is he’s not mobile enough.

  80. aig-raiders Says:

    that call on Curry was terrible. Let them play.

  81. PlunkforHOF Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    November 20th, 2011 at 4:42 pm
    I’m a Niner fan and a Raider fan. One team knows how to win. One team knows how to find ways to either lose, or make weak teams look good.

    *************************************************

    Once again, and I have lost count of the times… You show yourself to be full of schit.

  82. souldogdave Says:

    Who are these idiots posting?I have to leave, too much stupidity here.Ruining this.

  83. morilla Says:

    Also 2 big picks from a defense that usually folds. Keep it rolling.

  84. RaiderDebo Says:

    52.marios Says:
    November 20th, 2011 at 4:23 pm
    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8244d9fb/article/raiders-jackson-bashes-refs-after-12-penalties-for-117-yards?module=HP11_MYNFL

    JACKSON’S COMMENTS

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Hue is awesome. This needed to be said.

  85. morilla Says:

    Who got called for the late hit? Was that Curry too? I can’t remember.

  86. Method To My Madness Says:

    MR youre a btch

  87. JT Says:

    morilla Says:
    November 20th, 2011 at 4:41 pm
    That drive that was littered with flags was complete BS. It was a clean hit by Mitchell ( I think that was Mitchell) that was not a late hit!!! We always get called for those and I see other teams constantly getting away with those. It WAS NOT a facemask. I have it taped and watched it 3 times. No where near the grill

    —-

    exactly, what, they got 45 yards in 3 penaltys? it looked almost like las vegas wanted the vikings to cover the spread

  88. Twocents Says:

    Coaches and players should be allowed to criticize officials. While it may not be wise to go overboard, what makes these incompetent bastards immune from being evaluated. Everybody else in the NFL is put in the spotlight. Time to expose the corruption for what it is.

  89. VanHeathen Says:

    The Zebra’s did everyting in their power to take the teeth out of our defense…after the beating we put on SD last week on national TV i’m not surprised.
    Jerry mac has NEVER been interested in any ‘Conspiracy” theories, which is fine, it’d p[rolly cost him his job if he actually came out and printed that the REFS are Bogus…don’t matter to me.
    US against the NFL!
    Same as it ever was…

  90. morilla Says:

    I can’t say enough about Jared. Shutting down Allen is no small feet, even seasoned veterans get smoked by him. Shut him down!

    And fat Sapp said that Allen was going to run all over Jared today. Up yours tubby!

  91. ArmChair GM Says:

    Sully is wondering why I keep telling him to make me a sandwich…here’s why…
    _______________________________________________________
    Sullivan44 Says:
    October 26th, 2011 at 1:57 pm

    Armchair,

    LET IT F’N GO, MAN!

    You’re starting to piss me off.
    =====
    Then this:
    Sullivan44 Says:
    October 26th, 2011 at 1:59 pm

    You know what, Armchair?

    THAT’S IT!

    You’re on ignore.

    You don’t exist anymore. You grouchy f’n azzhole! Have a good life.
    ========
    Then this:
    Sullivan44 Says:
    October 26th, 2011 at 2:01 pm

    I’m getting a sandwich. I WILL be back in about 10 minutes. Armchair, don’t bother sending any more comments my way. I won’t read one word.
    _______________________________________________________

    I owned this fool so badly he put me on “Ignore”

    ROTFLMAO.

    Tranny.

  92. VanHeathen Says:

    Always wanted to create a spreadsheet of officiating crews versus the spread…see which teams cover , or not.
    To think any of these guys are immune to the Vegas Sway is ridiculous…gotta keep it close, especially after a 45-7 blowout last week…oops, forgot that was called parody.

  93. morilla Says:

    What was the spread today?

  94. 4.2 40 Says:

    90….Maybe sapp will remember Jared’s name now….Lol….

  95. Thec07 Says:

    Great day today…Raiders win, the disc lose…

    Oh yeah and fck rivers….

  96. VanHeathen Says:

    Morilla i think it was a pick ‘em, maybe us minus 1…
    sure looked like the Zebra’s were trying to close that 6 pts down…but regardless, we’ve always been penalized the most, and it seems that it’ll never end.

  97. VanHeathen Says:

    Veldheer is another mid round GEM!
    Kid plays with Pride and a Nasty streak,
    hope he’s here a long time…

  98. mcfadden20. Says:

    Code black attack is back.

  99. Thec07 Says:

    fck the refs…a number of holding calls against the dline went uncalled.

    fck the refs and fck rivers.

  100. Thec07 Says:

    If you guys want a good laugh go to the charger blog they are jumping off the bridge….

  101. JT Says:

    morilla Says:
    November 20th, 2011 at 4:52 pm
    What was the spread today?
    —-

    raiders opened the day -1.5, before kickoff they were +1.5

  102. morilla Says:

    They definitely watch us more closely than other teams because they are the Raiders. That’s a fact and I really hate using that as an excuse, but it’s true. I bet they even joke about it before games.

    “Hey Billy, hope your arm is warmed up for next week, we got the Raiders.”

    They are just itching to throw flags on us and it’s haunted this organization. Some is due to sloppy, undisciplined play and others are from reputation.

  103. Twocents Says:

    I think we have the technology to do away with the corrupt officials. A computer program linked to the videos and one official in the booth would do a better job. The guys on the field should be paid minimum wage to spot the ball.

  104. Kirk Says:

    Jared vs Jared

    What are the odds?

  105. elraidmanhattan Says:

    Warren sap has zero credibility, the guy actually knows nothing…why he gets paid is beyond explanation. Their a few guys I can actually acknowledge that know what the hech they are talking about.

  106. Kirk Says:

    100.Thec07 Says:
    November 20th, 2011 at 4:57 pm
    If you guys want a good laugh go to the charger blog they are jumping off the bridge….

    …………………………………..

    They should be.

    They are f…..

  107. morilla Says:

    What charger blog?

  108. RaiderDebo Says:

    US against the NFL!
    Same as it ever was…

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Just the way I like it! Makes victory that much sweeter.

  109. Kirk Says:

    105.elraidmanhattan Says:
    November 20th, 2011 at 5:00 pm
    Warren sap has zero credibility, the guy actually knows nothing…why he gets paid is beyond explanation. Their a few guys I can actually acknowledge that know what the hech they are talking about.

    ………………………………………

    It’s alway better if someone knows what the hech they are talking about.

  110. Kirk Says:

    Is that Anne Hech?

  111. mcfadden20. Says:

    Veldheer or wiz should make the superbowl

  112. 4.2 40 Says:

    111.Post that pro bowl link again…Agreed….

  113. Teabag Says:

    RaiderDebo Says:
    November 20th, 2011 at 4:16 pm

    12.morilla Says:
    November 20th, 2011 at 4:10 pm
    The Bears don’t scare me. The Packers do. We have a shot at taking them down next week.

    Just need Kelly to do a belly flop on Cutler.

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    The Bears should scare you. A lot.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Why? if they should scare us a lot…then we should scare them a lot. Only one who sounds scared is you.

  114. TerrapinRaider Says:

    I would not be shocked to see the League come up with some BS to defends today’s referring. But any objective observer can see there is no way to defend what occurred today. It was one of the worst officiated games I have ever seen. I was like Hue. I didn’t know if I was watching football or not as I know it.

  115. mcfadden20. Says:

    We must b the only blog where fan of another team(/sully) spends more time on the team he hates , then the team he loves ..

  116. elraidmanhattan Says:

    I like Merrill hoge, and a couple of other guys, but too many ex-players know nothing!

  117. The Real Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Teabag Says:
    November 20th, 2011 at 5:04 pm
    RaiderDebo Says:
    November 20th, 2011 at 4:16 pm

    12.morilla Says:
    November 20th, 2011 at 4:10 pm
    The Bears don’t scare me. The Packers do. We have a shot at taking them down next week.

    Just need Kelly to do a belly flop on Cutler.

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    The Bears should scare you. A lot.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Why? if they should scare us a lot…then we should scare them a lot. Only one who sounds scared is you.
    ———
    The Bears didn’t really look that good today. Cutler played great, though. Forte did nothing against crappy Charger defense. Defense gave up a lot of big pass plays to Rivers.

  118. Thec07 Says:

    cutler needs to get the same business that rivers got…. We will beat chicago.

  119. JT Says:

    Twocents Says:
    November 20th, 2011 at 4:59 pm
    I think we have the technology to do away with the corrupt officials. A computer program linked to the videos and one official in the booth would do a better job. The guys on the field should be paid minimum wage to spot the ball.

    its probably going to be addressed in the future, you can’t let a biased penalty decide a game… teams should have challenge flags for bogus calls

  120. elraidmanhattan Says:

    I am waiting for sully to fly to NY, I have place in Brooklyn he will like…maybe not

  121. Thec07 Says:

    the disc did not hit cutler like we are going to…

  122. mcfadden20. Says:

    http://www.raiders.com/fans/pro-bowl-ballot-2012.html

  123. mcfadden20. Says:

    There u go 4.2

  124. mcfadden20. Says:

    Cutler is going to see nightmares after game against us .. He might miss the following game because he will b too sore

  125. The Real Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Elraidmanhattan Says:
    November 20th, 2011 at 5:07 pm
    I am waiting for sully to fly to NY, I have place in Brooklyn he will like…maybe not
    ————
    What are you going to do, rape him? You sick pervert.

  126. elraidmanhattan Says:

    No, I am not a pervert, like women too much. He will get what he deserves.

  127. ArmChair GM Says:

    elraidmanhattan Says:
    November 20th, 2011 at 5:07 pm

    I am waiting for sully to fly to NY, I have place in Brooklyn he will like…maybe not
    _____________________________________________________

    The main place in NYC that Sully will like is Greenwich Village. After his last visit there, he finally got the courage to come OUT the Closet and reveal himself as a Flaming Niner Fan while daily posting on a Raiders Blog.

  128. lefty12 Says:

    Why should other coaches/teams care about the way the league constantly screws the Raiders?It gives them a huge advantage when they play us.Unfortunately nothing will be done about the officiating.It has been going on for 40 years although not to extent it was today.

  129. RaiderDebo Says:

    113.Teabag Says:
    November 20th, 2011 at 5:04 pm
    RaiderDebo Says:
    November 20th, 2011 at 4:16 pm

    12.morilla Says:
    November 20th, 2011 at 4:10 pm
    The Bears don’t scare me. The Packers do. We have a shot at taking them down next week.

    Just need Kelly to do a belly flop on Cutler.

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    The Bears should scare you. A lot.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Why? if they should scare us a lot…then we should scare them a lot. Only one who sounds scared is you.

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Guilty as charged. Best D we’ll face all year. Experts a turning you over. All-world players at every level. Arguably the best ST unit in the league. QB with the physical skills to beat us in or out of the pocket, as we’ve seen before. Great running game. Wake up, we have our hands full next week.

  130. mcfadden20. Says:

    Silly is so stupid he kept calling hid dad mom n his mom his dad when he learned to talk .. So maybe he’s confusing the Raiders blog with the Niners blog

  131. mcfadden20. Says:

    Code black = make teams , refs and haters look silly

  132. elraidmanhattan Says:

    I am just a hardcore raider fan, I want to interact with raider fans not some 49ermoronic fans, OK? Is my point clear. What a loser to go on another team blog to promote his feminine qualities.

  133. JT Says:

    “I know everyone says we’re the most-penalized team in football and that’s a fact, and I’m not running from that,” Jackson said. “But there’s no way, some things that happened today on that football field, I question. I just do, and I have to, and I’m going to defend my team. It’s time that I do that.”

  134. Thec07 Says:

    Chi has injuries on the oline, another one went down today..

    Our like our Dline against Chi and cutler…

    Every game in the NFL is a tough and I expect us to step up and win…

  135. Thec07 Says:

    This team owes us 2 wins for the buffalo game and the denver game

  136. elraidmanhattan Says:

    The line will definitely make an impact Sunday, bears line banged up.

  137. RaiderDebo Says:

    Interested to see how VY does tonight. Here’s his chance to be a starter again in 2012. He better not blow it.

  138. Sullivan44 Says:

    The league had the last laugh against Al a long time ago.
    Raiders are in the bottom 3 teams in the league as far as revenue. Are dead last in fan attendance. Are dead last in fan approval. Haven’t won a Super Bowl in almost 30 years.
    Funny how some of you actually believe the NFL calls in the referee committee, and risks the complete integrity of the league by saying “we don’t care what it takes, make bogus calls against the Raiders”.
    See how stupid that sounds? See how stupid some of you sound? Never mind. That’s like asking water to see how wet it is.

  139. RaiderDebo Says:

    Would much more confident if this game were in Chicago. This team just doesn’t play well in that pos stadium.

  140. lefty12 Says:

    Young isn’t a Raider,who gives a sh!t about him?A quitter.Phuck Young.

  141. Sullivan44 Says:

    JT Says:
    November 20th, 2011 at 5:17 pm

    “I know everyone says we’re the most-penalized team in football and that’s a fact, and I’m not running from that,” Jackson said. “But there’s no way, some things that happened today on that football field, I question. I just do, and I have to, and I’m going to defend my team. It’s time that I do that.”
    ==========
    And on Monday he’ll have two things to look at. First is replay that shows the calls were correct. Second is the $20,000 bill the NFL wants him to mail out, ASAP.

  142. morilla Says:

    Funny how some of you actually believe the NFL calls in the referee committee, and risks the complete integrity of the league by saying “we don’t care what it takes, make bogus calls against the Raiders”.
    See how stupid that sounds? See how stupid some of you sound? Never mind. That’s like asking water to see how wet it is.
    —————-

    I’m not saying that at all. I’m just saying that the refs have become conditioned to watch us more due to our reputation. Granted the raiders deserve a lot of it, but man there are some serious head scratchers sometimes.

  143. Sullivan44 Says:

    elraidmanhattan Says:
    November 20th, 2011 at 5:16 pm

    I am just a hardcore raider fan, I want to interact with raider fans not some 49ermoronic fans, OK? Is my point clear. What a loser to go on another team blog to promote his feminine qualities.
    ——–
    Is your point clear? Gee, not sure. Maybe after you get done crying, you’ll elaborate for us?

  144. Twocents Says:

    It is time for a congressional investigation into corruption in the NFL. Where is Goodell? Probably accepting a fat envelope from his good buddy Pereira.

  145. Thec07 Says:

    I am still looking for the complete game, it will happen against chi…

  146. RaiderDebo Says:

    140.lefty12 Says:
    November 20th, 2011 at 5:22 pm
    Young isn’t a Raider,who gives a sh!t about him?A quitter.Phuck Young.

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Really???? What is Carson Palmer??

  147. Thec07 Says:

    Really???? What is Carson Palmer??

    +++++++++++

    A damn good Raider Qb…

  148. morilla Says:

    If you rattle Cutler he makes mistakes. People need to hold the edge and keep contain which has been the D’s Achilles heel. Stay home and be patient.

    We have a shot of beating that team, especially if DMAC is back.

  149. Sullivan44 Says:

    Morilla,
    You are thinking about when the Raiders were deliberately bullies. Head hunting. Cheap shots on purpose. That was 25 years ago. Now it’s false starts, and unnecessary roughness, and pass interference. Ref’s also get graded every week. Every week. Decides who comes back, who gets post season work, who gets Super Bowl gig. Egregious calls are called by the ref committee. Refs make mistakes every game. And are responsible for every mistake.

  150. RaiderDebo Says:

    147.Thec07 Says:
    November 20th, 2011 at 5:28 pm
    Really???? What is Carson Palmer??

    +++++++++++

    A damn good Raider Qb…

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Won’t dispute that. But so is VY. And I’ve got no problem with him blowing up at a coach that never wanted him in the 1st place. I wish him luck tonight.

  151. lefty12 Says:

    Palmer NEVER walked out on his team DURING the season.He is also a damn good QB and the QB of the Oakland Raiders.

  152. JT Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    November 20th, 2011 at 5:23 pm
    JT Says:
    November 20th, 2011 at 5:17 pm
    “I know everyone says we’re the most-penalized team in football and that’s a fact, and I’m not running from that,” Jackson said. “But there’s no way, some things that happened today on that football field, I question. I just do, and I have to, and I’m going to defend my team. It’s time that I do that.”
    ==========
    And on Monday he’ll have two things to look at. First is replay that shows the calls were correct. Second is the $20,000 bill the NFL wants him to mail out, ASAP.

    did u watch the game? there were 2 or 3 blown calls in that 4th quarter that fueled the vikings comeback

    it is what it is.

  153. Twocents Says:

    Corruption is the norm in todays society. It extends from the government to big business and yes to the NFL.
    We are only the Raider Nation, but if we keep exposing these bastards, we will eventually prevail.

  154. Thec07 Says:

    Raiders, and Palmer doing it with key weapons on the sidelines…

    Thats whats up…

  155. morilla Says:

    I know Sully, I said the Raiders deserve a lot of the calls if not 95-98%. They play undisciplined, I see it. I am just saying there are some calls that just blow your mind sometimes.

  156. RaidingTexas Says:

    I saw a bad call against the Raiders and a bad call against the Vikings in the 1st quarter. Then there was the whole “is it 3rd or 4th down” fiasco. Otherwise, it was a pretty typical game like any other NFL game – most calls were right and a few were borderline.

    This is a discipline problem with the Raiders. To spin it as some massive conspiracy against them is the stuff of losers.

    Hue with his ref blaming crap is even more of a jackazz than I already thought he was. I guess it’s easier to blame others for your failings as a head coach.

  157. lefty12 Says:

    Debo-you are a hypocrite.You have no problem with a player(Young) quitting on his team in the middle of a season,but you hate the QB of the team you are supposed to be a fan of because he held out and demanded a trade from an organization he knew was incompetent.And don’t try and say you like Palmer-that is a damn lie.

  158. Twocents Says:

    I would rather we shut down the NFL than have it turn into a faux sport akin to professional wrestling.

  159. morilla Says:

    Na Raiding, that Viking drive that had 3 calls on it was BS. You have to admit that.

  160. Thec07 Says:

    Twocents Says:
    November 20th, 2011 at 5:36 pm
    I would rather we shut down the NFL than have it turn into a faux sport akin to professional wrestling.

    ++++++

    NFL = National Fineness League

  161. lefty12 Says:

    Morilla,sure we make a lot of stupid penalties.But can you honestly say you watch games,see hits/plays and know if those hits/plays were made by us there would have been a flag?

  162. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Sandusky44

    You are not allowed to speak of the Raiders team or its fans as “WE” as we have all seen your posts of “this is where the Raider melt down”

  163. RaiderChaos Says:

    Get your fix…. Real stuff…Post game Vids…… http://raiderchaos.blogspot.com/2011/11/post-game-videos-raiders-viqueens.html

  164. Twocents Says:

    Everybody is driven by their self interest. Why should NFL officials be elevated to the status of sainthood?
    They are corrupt, just like every other aspect of American society.

  165. RaiderDebo Says:

    157.lefty12 Says:
    November 20th, 2011 at 5:35 pm
    Debo-you are a hypocrite.You have no problem with a player(Young) quitting on his team in the middle of a season,but you hate the QB of the team you are supposed to be a fan of because he held out and demanded a trade from an organization he knew was incompetent.And don’t try and say you like Palmer-that is a damn lie.
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Won’t pretend to love Palmer. I’ll admit, his penchant for backbreaking picks scares me. Kudos to Hue for reigning him in the last couple of weeks. But your comparing Vince’s actions to Palmer’s is a joke. Vince walked away from a heated discussion with his coach before it could escalate further. He should be applauded for that. He never quit on the team. Carson Palmer said “I’m never playing for you again” and went home. No comparison!

  166. Thec07 Says:

    I am glad Coach Jackson is questioning the zebs…

  167. morilla Says:

    Lefty12 Says:
    November 20th, 2011 at 5:39 pm
    Morilla,sure we make a lot of stupid penalties.But can you honestly say you watch games,see hits/plays and know if those hits/plays were made by us there would have been a flag?
    ——

    I see them, I see things in other games all the time that make me say the Raiders would have gotten a flag on that play.

  168. Sullivan44 Says:

    Twocents Says:
    November 20th, 2011 at 5:44 pm

    Everybody is driven by their self interest. Why should NFL officials be elevated to the status of sainthood?
    They are corrupt, just like every other aspect of American society.
    ———–
    #1 criteria to be a NFL official. To have money. LOTS of money. On paper. Showing full details of your $.
    Also to be established in business. Well elevated.
    In other words, being rich, and already a name, means you’re much less likely to risk all that.

    that said, what you just stated is the LEAGE, THE NFL, IS BRIBING THE OFFICIALS TO CALL PLAYS AGAINST THE RAIDERS?
    That’s why you always get change for your twocents.

  169. Thec07 Says:

    We need to do better after the half on offense…

    D stepped up, and St played great however, we need to put teams like minny away, and don’t let them hang on…

  170. Silverandblack666 Says:

    VY is mentally ill he tired to kill himself his coach and mother had to talk him out of it.

    He is half retarded we all know his wonderlic score. why RaiderDebbie is so enamored with the half wit is beyond me.

  171. lefty12 Says:

    Debo,you are correct-no comparison-Palmer did it after the season,during the off-season;Young quit in the middle of the season-threw his pads into the stands and walked out on them.Yet you back Young.Says it all to me,wink,wink.

  172. Twocents Says:

    What can you buy for a penny?

  173. morilla Says:

    VY put the curse on Philly after opening his mouth.

  174. mcfadden20. Says:

    RAIIDDERRSS..

  175. Sullivan44 Says:

    RaiderChaos Says:
    November 20th, 2011 at 5:41 pm

    Get your fix…. Real stuff…Post game Vids…… http://raiderchaos.blogspot.com/2011/11/post-game-videos-raiders-viqueens.html
    ———-
    Give it up. Seriously. I clicked on a couple links. You ask for feedback. You have zero replies on any of your blogs. Zero. you know, like zilch. You borrow pictures already published. And you post comments already posted. You just want attention. Is there anything more pathetic than someone posting to just get attention?

  176. oldschoolraider Says:

    If football games only lasted 30 min we’d be on our way to the Super Bowl.

  177. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “What can you buy for a penny?”

    VY’s brain cells if their weight was equivalent to the price of gold.

  178. Sullivan44 Says:

    Twocents Says:
    November 20th, 2011 at 5:50 pm

    What can you buy for a penny?
    ——–
    Whatever you post, post it twice. There’s your twocents worth.
    Ok. 1 1/2 cents worth. Keep the change.

  179. ArmChair GM Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    October 26th, 2011 at 1:59 pm

    You know what, Armchair?

    THAT’S IT!

    You’re on ignore.

    You don’t exist anymore. You grouchy f’n azzhole! Have a good life
    ______________________________________________________

    Meltdown of epic proportions,lmao

  180. mcfadden20. Says:

    Silly why won’t u go on Niners blog or celebrate the victOry by offerin Harbaugh free blowjob , just get the fukkk out of here .. We don’t need you here at all .. Ask anybody if they want u to stay and everyone will vote for u to go… Nobody cares about and u no body want to talk to you.. So just leave quietly and neve come bak

  181. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Shut up Sandusky44

    How is your Hollywood script coming along?

    Stupid degenerate

  182. Sullivan44 Says:

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 20th, 2011 at 5:51 pm

    RAIIDDERRSS..
    ———-
    So funny watching you just hang out, staring at your screen, not having any idea what to say.
    “CODE BLACK”
    “RAIIDDERRSS”
    Silly little goofy kid wanting to fit in.

  183. Sullivan44 Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    November 20th, 2011 at 5:56 pm

    Shut up Sandusky44

    How is your Hollywood script coming along?

    Stupid degenerate
    ——-
    You lost the bet, Oakglenn. You useless POS. I knew you wouldn’t pay up. Turdpiles never do.

  184. Sullivan44 Says:

    How many handles you posting under these day’s, Oakglenn?
    I know of at least 4 current ones. You usually like to have at least 7-8 so you can pat yourself on the back when you say something stupid, or have a lengthy convo with yourself.
    Yeah, pretty damn pathetic, Oakglenn.

  185. Sullivan44 Says:

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 20th, 2011 at 5:56 pm

    Silly why won’t u go on Niners blog or celebrate the victOry by offerin Harbaugh free blowjob , just get the fukkk out of here .. We don’t need you here at all .. Ask anybody if they want u to stay and everyone will vote for u to go… Nobody cares about and u no body want to talk to you.. So just leave quietly and neve come bak
    ———–
    A wonderful example of our school system, at it’s best.
    All those tax payer $, just to release this illiteracy into the world? Other countries laugh at us because of idiots like this.
    I’m embarrassed for you.

  186. mcfadden20. Says:

    Ok I’m done replying to this Niners loser fan, the guy is just use to beatdowns theres not much we can do to make him mentally stable the guy have just lost it .. Seriously saying that I’m trying to fit in with raider fans while im a raider fan ofcourse If that floats ur vote but atleast I ain’t forcing myself somewhere where 99% people hate me …lmfao

  187. Twocents Says:

    Sully, do you really think you are the brightest star in the universe? I think you are deranged.
    Look up arrogance in the dictionary.

  188. morilla Says:

    So who is the next Charger HC if they tank this year. Chucky or Fisher?

  189. wasbanned Says:

    JayGlazer Jay Glazer
    Bears sources tell me Jay Cutler injured his thumb, undergoing further tests to see if broken. He finished game w it injured

  190. mcfadden20. Says:

    Silly , you know why this country is going broke , it because of idiots like you who are trying to force their matters into others problems .. While nobody needs them..Get a taste of your own medicine u biaatch

  191. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Sandusky44 you are parasite on the barely living, a low life, an empty shallow human being seeking affirmation on a Raider blog. I cant imagine how bleak your life must be to act and post the way you do, it smells of desperation anger, and sick need to fill an empty void.

    I enjoy watching everyone rip on you in here every day and how cheesy and child like you can be in response…but in reality I feel sorry for you.

  192. CanuckRaider Says:

    The only thing Sully’s had right tonight is calling Oakglen a useless POS. Other than that, Sully has offered nothing of value by any standards tonight.

  193. lefty12 Says:

    Fisher maybe,unless they want offense,then probably some unknown,although they might go for a name to get the LA crowd for when they move there.

  194. edward teach Says:

    The Giants have a great defensive line, as most people know. What strikes me is how FAST they are.

    You don’t hear much about it, but the Giants have a lot of speed on defense, at all positions.

  195. mcfadden20. Says:

    Let’s hope KC lose tomorrow and SD takes care of Den next week while we beat chicago

  196. CanuckRaider Says:

    #195: Hear Hear…

  197. morilla Says:

    They bring up Cowers name a lot here but I really don’t see him coaching the Chargers.

  198. mcfadden20. Says:

    Heres to perfect record rest of the way.

  199. mcfadden20. Says:

    Nobody wants to coach S.D an associated with that loser franchise

  200. Silverandblack666 Says:

    CanuckRaider

    Oakglenn is not here his name is Seymour Bush.

    So Sandusky44 has again failed to get even one thing right.

  201. CanuckRaider Says:

    I hope GB is still undefeated when we meet them. Love to be the ones to knock them off.

  202. morilla Says:

    Good lord, Young looks horrible.

  203. CanuckRaider Says:

    #200: My apologies then if Oakglen is someone else.

  204. Blackmamba_20 Says:

    vince young has made a horrible start… wow his throwing is bad

  205. lefty12 Says:

    I doubt Cowher would come west.He is an east coast guy.But it wouldn’t bother me if they got him.He isn’t that good of a coach.Tomlin has won more in a shorter amount of time with pretty much the same team-philosphy wise.

  206. CanuckRaider Says:

    Jackson must of got a carpet crawler in his eye.

  207. Twocents Says:

    At this point I don’t know if our problems on defense are due to scheme or personnel.

  208. Blackmamba_20 Says:

    morilla stealing my thunder lol

  209. lefty12 Says:

    Canuck-we need the whiners to lose a couple so if GB were to lose they would still have NFC home field advantage.

  210. CanuckRaider Says:

    Hear ya there Lefty…Hate the Whiners.

  211. The Real Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    RaiderChaos Says:
    November 20th, 2011 at 5:41 pm
    Get your fix…. Real stuff…Post game Vids…… http://raiderchaos.blogspot.com/2011/11/post-game-videos-raiders-viqueens.html
    ———-
    Nice blog you have there. It looks like you put a lot of work into stealing videos from another site. Great job.

  212. 4.2 40 Says:

    Sully, McFadden20 is well respected in here and adds a lot to part of Raider football. I always enjoy his enthusiasm. You should try to be more like him instead of always using your cognitive dissonance and ambiguity. Of course, you always seem to relish being ridiculed instead of using your intelligence and air to ADD something.

  213. morilla Says:

    Yeah, Cower is all about hard nose physical teams. They would need to overhaul that team from the ground up for him to be happy. Their D is full of sub par talent, the only guy that is supposed to be their stud is Jammer. Weddle makes plays here and there but gets burnt on the run, and big backs flatten him. Dline and backers are ehhhh.

  214. CanuckRaider Says:

    Officiating in the Raiders game was brutal. While we deserved about 3/4 of those calls the rest were utter BS. And I spotted two blatant holds and a blatant PI that weren’t called on the Vikes. Hate to say it but maybe Vegas does have a say in matters.

  215. beach Says:

    It’s funny how the 49ers think they have such a great chance to get to the Super Bowl. They are 1 game behind Green Bay in the NFC, who is undefeated. Our Raiders are only 1 game behind the best record in the AFC. We know the Raiders have a lot of work to do to get to where we want to go. It seems like the 49ers feel content where they are. They have only beaten one decent team in the NY Giants. In other words, they haven’t done much yet.

  216. Twocents Says:

    I wish we had the 9′ers defense.

  217. morilla Says:

    Blackmamba_20 Says:
    November 20th, 2011 at 6:14 pm
    morilla stealing my thunder lol
    —–
    Ha, yeah I said that then he completed a 20+ yard pass. Happens all the time , haha.

  218. Thec07 Says:

    Coach Jackson said DHB’s injury was a “spinal injury”
    I hope the young man is OK…

  219. Just Fire Baby Says:

    The only questionable call I saw today was the facemask on Branch in the first half. Didn’t see anything there.

    Curry has a penchant for 15 yard penalties, so when his helmet hits a receivers facemask, as it did, he isn’t going to get the benefit of the doubt.

    Bryant’s late-hit was completely absurb, one of the latest hits I seen all year. The guy was down, tackled, and he piles on his neck. Not only was it a penalty, it may be a fine as well.

    And TK hit the QB in the head. BS rule, but it gets called all the time. Can’t hit the QB in his head.

    Veldheer’s hold was legit and a good play on his behalf, as was the Lito PI.

    Raiders need to worry about their discipline and not the officials. I think the last 3 penalties of the game all went against the Vikings.

  220. JB Says:

    Cutler’s right hand thumb reported as broken. Maybe just in time for our game next week.

  221. wasbanned Says:

    vxmcclure23 vaughn mcclure
    Jay Cutler has broken his thumb on his throwing hand, a source tells me.

  222. 4.2 40 Says:

    Hey, Raider Debbie, haven’t you joined your buddy misty eyes on some island without communication abilities, yet. I think he sent you a one way ticket to join him on bigot island……

  223. Just Fire Baby Says:

    They should fire Norv tomorrow, as I predicted all week.

    And after watching today, I would much rather play Philisha Rivers than Tim Tebow, any day of the week.

    Rivers = washed-up and getting worse by the week.

  224. Blackmamba_20 Says:

    217.morilla Says:
    November 20th, 2011 at 6:20 pm
    Blackmamba_20 Says:
    November 20th, 2011 at 6:14 pm
    morilla stealing my thunder lol
    —–
    Ha, yeah I said that then he completed a 20+ yard pass. Happens all the time , haha.

    EXACTLY !!!

  225. beach Says:

    Twocents Says:
    November 20th, 2011 at 6:14 pm
    At this point I don’t know if our problems on defense are due to scheme or personnel.
    ============================
    It is due to penalties only. We just need these guys to play focused for 60 minutes!

  226. The Real Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Thec07 Says:
    November 20th, 2011 at 6:20 pm
    Coach Jackson said DHB’s injury was a “spinal injury”
    I hope the young man is OK…
    ———-
    That doesn’t sound good.

  227. The Real Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Where is KoolKell with his banal observation about today’s game?

  228. CanuckRaider Says:

    Good job on the “Chaotic View” site McFadden20. Ignore the bitter man. Some create while others can only criticize.

  229. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Why do we want our guys to not play this way, with the penalties.

    Tk’s penalty is one of those things that will happen a few times a year. Would we rather him not touch the QB, or say F it, I am going to shoot first and ask questions later?

    We just can’t have those late-hits like Desmond Bryant’s. The stupid ones. Aggressive penalties are going to happen, and I rather my defense aggressive and penalty-prone, rather than passive.

  230. beach Says:

    If the 49ers win at Baltimore on Thanksgiving, then I will say they are the second best team in the NFL.

  231. 18yearsold18yearfan Says:

    Im telling you guys its gonna cost if we’re going to keep Branch next year an I think we need him

  232. YoungAmerican Says:

    @vxmcclure23: Source says the Bears are preparing to move forward without Cutler “for a while.”

  233. Just Fire Baby Says:

    If we beat the Packers, they will still be the #1 seed.

    49ers loss was in conference, Packers would be out of conference.

    But if the Packers lose to the Bears or Lions, than the 49ers would have the #1 seed, which is crazy to me.

  234. beach Says:

    TK’s was not a penalty. That’s why Hue said what he said. Those zebras tried to cheat us. We commit enough on our own. We don’t need those refs cheating for the other team.

  235. CanuckRaider Says:

    #219: How about the “hit to the head” roughing the passer penalty? Ponder ducked right into it. If that’s a legit call they best get all the QBs sized for evening dresses.

  236. The Real Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    YoungAmerican Says:
    November 20th, 2011 at 6:26 pm
    @vxmcclure23: Source says the Bears are preparing to move forward without Cutler “for a while.”
    ———-
    I don’t believe that.

  237. Just Fire Baby Says:

    TK hit the QB in the head.

    That is a penalty, and I have seen plenty of worse ones called this year.

  238. JB Says:

    he Bears have started a winning streak. Cutler’s injury could derail that trend. I wasn’t looking forward to that game with all of our injuries. If Cutler is hindered then maybe the injury impact will be more equalized.

    On a different subject, will someone please teach MBush how to block in pass protection? He’s terrible Last week he had two total whiffs hat resulted in sacks. Today he had a block that might as well have been a whiff and it still resulted in another sack. He’s gonna get Palmer killed back there. Now we know why he didn’t want to pay in the FB position. He CAN’T OR WON’T BLOCK.

  239. wasbanned Says:

    Report: Jay Cutler has a broken thumb
    Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on November 20, 2011, 9:25 PM EST
    San Diego Chargers v Chicago Bears Getty Images

    The surging Bears may have hit a roadblock.

    Jay Glazer of FOX reports that the Bears fear Jay Cutler has a broken thumb. Vaughn McClure of the Chicago Tribune quickly followed up that report to say Cutler indeed does have a broken thumb on his throwing hand.

    It’s unclear when the injury occurred. Cutler was able to finish Sunday’s win against the Chargers.

  240. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Can’t hit the QB, when they are in the pocket, from the knee below or the shoulders and up.

    Once they are out of the pocket, all bets are off.

    The facemask on Branch was the only iffy penalty in my eyes.

  241. mcfadden20. Says:

    Code black for the win

  242. RaiderDebo Says:

    Annoys the hell out of me to watch the refs kill us all day then turn around and put their heads down on an obvious PI against Aaron Ross.

  243. CanuckRaider Says:

    Who is the Bears backup QB?

  244. PlunkforHOF Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    November 20th, 2011 at 5:59 pm
    How many handles you posting under these day’s, Oakglenn?
    I know of at least 4 current ones. You usually like to have at least 7-8 so you can pat yourself on the back when you say something stupid, or have a lengthy convo with yourself.
    Yeah, pretty damn pathetic, Oakglenn.

    ***********************************************

    Sullivan44 Says:
    November 20th, 2011 at 5:54 pm
    RaiderChaos Says:
    November 20th, 2011 at 5:41 pm

    Get your fix…. Real stuff…Post game Vids…… http://raiderchaos.blogspot.com/2011/11/post-game-videos-raiders-viqueens.html
    ———-
    Give it up. Seriously. I clicked on a couple links. You ask for feedback. You have zero replies on any of your blogs. Zero. you know, like zilch. You borrow pictures already published. And you post comments already posted. You just want attention. Is there anything more pathetic than someone posting to just get attention?

    *****************************************

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA

    The Pot calls the Kettle black again and again hoping it will stick!…

    BBBWWWWWWAAAAAAHHAHAHAHAHAAA! You simpleton.. how pathetic!!!!

  245. wasbanned Says:

    vxmcclure23 vaughn mcclure
    Source says the Bears are preparing to move forward without Cutler “for a while.”
    …..

    this is true… at least it is on twitter

  246. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Bears backup I believe is Caleb something, who has only played when Cutler got hurt in the championship game.

  247. beach Says:

    mcfadden20. Says:
    November 20th, 2011 at 6:07 pm
    Let’s hope KC lose tomorrow and SD takes care of Den next week while we beat chicago
    ———————————

    That’s the plan, man. Let me be specific about the Denver-SD game. Denver has only 3 conference losses. We have 4. San Diego has 4. We don’t want Denver to have any advantage.

  248. morilla Says:

    I’ll take Caleb any day of the week. Just don’t make a star out of him and concentrate on Forte.

  249. wasbanned Says:

    More tests on Monday for Heyward-Bey
    Posted by Mike Florio on November 20, 2011, 7:22 PM EST

    As mentioned in an update to a prior item, Raiders receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey has been cleared to fly home with the Raiders after suffering a scary next injury against the Vikings after taking a knee to the helmet.

    Per multiple sources, all tests were negative. But more tests are coming tomorrow.

    For now, Heyward-Bey is wearing a neck brace. His status for next weekend against the Bears remains unknown.

  250. CanuckRaider Says:

    #246: Then it’ll be TEE TIME!

  251. Just Fire Baby Says:

    What about that hold they called on Michael Jenkins?

    That was a ridiculous call. Or forcing the Vikings to waste a timeout as the refs screwed up the down situation?

    The defensive holding call on Kevin Williams, which is never called, with 5 minutes to go in the game?

    Refs are not a problem.

  252. lefty12 Says:

    JFB,I realize you always support the officials but the penalty on Kelly was bogus.The penalty on Curry was an outright travesty.Many of the calls in the 4th qtr weren’t even shown by the network so you can’t say they were justified.The fact is the Raiders get called for fouls other teams don’t.Every team gets a bad call now and then.The Raiders get them EVERY game.Deny it all you want,it won’t make your denials true.

  253. beach Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 20th, 2011 at 6:29 pm
    Can’t hit the QB, when they are in the pocket, from the knee below or the shoulders and up.

    Once they are out of the pocket, all bets are off.

    The facemask on Branch was the only iffy penalty in my eyes.
    ————————————
    If that is the only iffy penalty you saw, they should put a skirt on the QB.

  254. CanuckRaider Says:

    Let’s hope DHB’s okay. Poor dude was just getting some chemistry with Carson. Couple of big catches for first downs.

  255. wasbanned Says:

    skjensen Sean Jensen
    #Bears QB Jay Cutler did break thumb in his throwing hand. And while there will be more tests, there is a fear that it could end his season

  256. beach Says:

    I’m mistaken. DeSean Jackson is the dumbest player in the NFL! LOSER!

  257. RaiderDebo Says:

    Can these refs really be serious?? Wipe out a 50-yd gain????

  258. mcfadden20. Says:

    Good now cutler have broken thumb only need Rodgers and P Willis to go down for the year then I’m happy

  259. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Penalty on Curry was worse than TK’s, but when his helmet hits the facemask of the recievers facemask, it is going to get called more often than not.

    Might as well except it, rather than complain about it, because it ain’t changing.

    And it isn’t changing because IT IS A PENALTY!!

  260. The Real Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Bears backup:

    http://www.nfl.com/player/calebhanie/2507385/profile

    If I remember correctly, he actually looked decent in the championship game last year.

  261. The Real Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    F*ck Desean Jackson. Biggest fantasy bust ever!

  262. morilla Says:

    Rothlesburger played today with a busted thumb, so don’t count him out just yet though.

  263. Sullivan44 Says:

    beach Says:
    November 20th, 2011 at 6:25 pm

    If the 49ers win at Baltimore on Thanksgiving, then I will say they are the second best team in the NFL.

    Wow. Really? Definitely news worthy.

  264. lefty12 Says:

    They gave the TO back-Minn wasn’t charged a TO.

  265. mcfadden20. Says:

    Code black 4 sho.

  266. beach Says:

    I am so glad we don’t have any prima donnas on our team this season. I wouldn’t touch losers like TO or Moss or Ochocinco if we had no receivers. Guys like that are cancers.

  267. CanuckRaider Says:

    The Eagles “Dream Team” is the biggest fantasy bust ever.

  268. YoungAmerican Says:

    @skjensen Sean Jensen
    #Bears QB Jay Cutler did break thumb in his throwing hand. And while there will be more tests, there is

  269. YoungAmerican Says:

    @skjensen Sean Jensen
    #Bears QB Jay Cutler did break thumb in his throwing hand. And while there will be more tests, there is a fear that it could end his season

  270. Sullivan44 Says:

    RaiderDebo Says:
    November 20th, 2011 at 6:35 pm

    Can these refs really be serious?? Wipe out a 50-yd gain????
    ———–
    It’s like kindergarten in here.
    Arguably the dumbest question this month, maybe for the year. I guess, according to you, the ref’s should take into account how many yds the player got before they are allowed to taunt? Are you terminally stupid? Or does it come and go?

  271. mcfadden20. Says:

    I hope someone Ravens take out the Niners best player P Willis then Niners D is effed. Niners without the great mike singletarys D = 2-8 at best

  272. PlunkforHOF Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    November 20th, 2011 at 6:38 pm
    beach Says:
    November 20th, 2011 at 6:25 pm

    If the 49ers win at Baltimore on Thanksgiving, then I will say they are the second best team in the NFL.

    Wow. Really? Definitely news worthy.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Oooohh. Don’t let your mom see your 49er boner…

  273. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “I’m mistaken. DeSean Jackson is the dumbest player in the NFL! LOSER!”

    NO your dead on with that just plain selfish.

  274. beach Says:

    JFB, You must be a referee. I have no problem getting mad at our players when they commit stupid penalties, but we got jobbed today by the refs. No ifs, ands, or buts in my mind. Do you agree that Brady was throwing the ball in the Foxboro Farce?

  275. 4.2 40 Says:

    Hanie did play decent after his opening drive pick 6last year, but he or butler will be irrelevant next week. Raiders will be about 90% healthy and the bears will go down….

  276. mcfadden20. Says:

    Hope Ravens go code black on Niners then maybe someone
    Obvious on here will stop posting ..:)

  277. edward teach Says:

    229.Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 20th, 2011 at 6:25 pm
    Why do we want our guys to not play this way, with the penalties.

    Tk’s penalty is one of those things that will happen a few times a year. Would we rather him not touch the QB, or say F it, I am going to shoot first and ask questions later?

    We just can’t have those late-hits like Desmond Bryant’s. The stupid ones. Aggressive penalties are going to happen, and I rather my defense aggressive and penalty-prone, rather than passive.

    ********************************************************

    A few weeks back one of the Steelers came out and said that they were going to continue to play the way they play, regardless of the officials and the fines. It got Tomlin invited to the commissioner’s office for a little chat.

    I agree with you, JFB. The defense should play aggressively and let the chips fall where they may. They should avoid telling the world they’re going to do it, though.

  278. mcfadden20. Says:

    Here’s to injuries to Niners entire D … Hip hip hooray lol

  279. 4.2 40 Says:

    Squealers had a bye, Roethlisberger will play next week…

  280. Sullivan44 Says:

    for God’s sake would someone please say code black to mcfuddled20? He’s not desperately begged for a pat on the head 5 times in a row with Code Black. Makes him feel like a big boy when you include him in your chants.

  281. Sullivan44 Says:

    **^^ “now”

  282. morilla Says:

    How many subs could Suh eat?

  283. CanuckRaider Says:

    This sure is a crappy game tonight. This makes 3 prime time duds in a row.

  284. edward teach Says:

    282.morilla Says:
    November 20th, 2011 at 6:46 pm
    How many subs could Suh eat?

    ********************************************************

    As many as he damn well pleases.

  285. morilla Says:

    4.2 40 Says:
    November 20th, 2011 at 6:45 pm
    Squealers had a bye, Roethlisberger will play next week…
    ——–

    Shows how much I pay attention some times.

  286. 4.2 40 Says:

    Sully why didn’t you just say it…CODE BLACK……

  287. CanuckRaider Says:

    Sully says, “Code Cousin”.

  288. 4.2 40 Says:

    285…Not at all, the squealers are easily forgotten…

  289. Silverandblack666 Says:

    The Giants O-Line looks horrible and Jacobs is averaging about 1 yard a carry

  290. edward teach Says:

    Manning just got hit right at the knees. I must have missed the flag.

    It had to have been thrown, right?

  291. 4.2 40 Says:

    287…..Hilarious……..!!!!!!

  292. Sullivan44 Says:

    Plunk,
    You seem to have a hangup on male genitalia. Seems unhealthy. Please get help.

  293. lefty12 Says:

    ET-according to JFB it will be thrown every time.

  294. mcfadden20. Says:

    Sj sharks are doing their thing this year ..

  295. olinesux Says:

    cutler does have a broken thumb!!!

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/20/report-jay-cutler-has-a-broken-thumb/

  296. CanuckRaider Says:

    #294: Good weekend for WPG Jets too. Took out Capitals and Flyers.

  297. CanuckRaider Says:

    We’ve had more than our fair share of injuries this year so no sympathy for anyone else.

  298. mcfadden20. Says:

    Sully doing his thing begging attention from a group he doesn’t belong in lol

  299. mcfadden20. Says:

    New post

  300. beach Says:

    Just win baby! And Code Black!

  301. wasbanned Says:

    cottovic Victor Cotto
    Cutler broke thumb on his right (throwing) hand… ESPNChicago has reported he’ll be out remainder of year #Raiders will face Caleb Hanie.

  302. RaiderintheRockies Says:

    according to NFL.com:

    ‘Caleb Hanie would likely get the start against the Oakland Raiders if Cutler can’t play in Week 12. Nathan Enderle is the Bears’ third-string quarterback.’

    I remember VY being Option B if the Palmer trade was a no-go, I’m glad we didn’t have to go that route, IMO VY has nothing & I’m not basing that off of tonight’s performance thus far…

  303. Gerard Says:

    298.mcfadden20. Says:
    November 20th, 2011 at 6:59 pm
    Sully doing his thing begging attention from a group he doesn’t belong in lol

    The POS can hang with his fellow niner fans somewhere else as far as i’m concerned.

    He’s just a bad guy..period.

  304. joshh1174 Says:

    What does our injury situation look like going into the Bears game? I’d like to be close to full strength

  305. joker94583 Says:

    Bottom line is that Hue gets outcoached in the 2nd half. Opponents coaches make the adjustments and it seems Hue just sticks with the same plan. Big ego and he’s over his head.

  306. ravenaider Says:

    Hold on Raider Nation….that Caleb Hanie reminds me of Fran Tarkenton.We couldnt contain Teblow and we were Ponder-ing all game about how to stop Christian.I am definately not afraid of the guy but his scramble ability should be a concern next Sunday

  307. ravenaider Says:

    4th Quarter drought is due to the fact that we get a big lead at halftime,then sit on it.Coach Hue gets all conservative instead of going for the jugular…we have seen it all year long.

    We need another kicker.You cannot keep giving teams field position with these short kick-offs.Something has to give because SeaBass is still ailing

  308. ravenaider Says:

    Raider Nation,

    I know you guys hate the Niners.The same way I hate the Redskins.It’s a local rivalry but for playoff seedings’ sakes,I would much rather have Baltimore with that wildcard than the Steelers in a first round matchup.I am rooting for the Niners this Thursday nite!

  309. gtown1_sj Says:

    Defensive Schemes SUXXXXXX.. BresnaCRAP gets out-coached EVERY second half. The RAIDERS will need to continue long drives or scoring to win games. Hue Jackson needs to wake up and realize that he CANNOT play 3 and outs and expect his defense to hold unless he is looking for a reaosn to FIRE BresnaCrap, then I’ll all for it..

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