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Raiders let Jackson address penalties

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, November 21st, 2011 at 12:34 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Looks like the Raiders are fine with allowing Hue Jackson to be the front man in their issues with NFL officials.

Jackson broke his policy of not criticizing officials in the wake of some calls in a 27-21 win over the Minnesota Vikings that left him scratching his head.

He said he planned on contacting the NFL and simply wanted a fair playing field.

At one point Jackson said he didn’t know what a legal hit is any more.

Jackson talks to the media at 2 p.m. in his weekly press briefing, at which point he’ll be asked about the penalties and also presumably have an update on injured wide receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey.

With 12 penalties for 117 yards against the Vikings, Oakland leads the NFL with 103 penalties for 892 yards and is on pace set the league record in both categories. They have 17 personal fouls on defense alone, just two behind the 1998 Chiefs over 16 games when they set the current NFL records of 158 penalties and 1,304 yards.

And the Raiders still have six games to play.

Linebacker Aaron Curry has already been hit with three personal fouls since joining the Raiders.

“The thing about it football is a game full of personal fouls,’’ Curry said. “They’re all personal. It all depends on whether a referee decides to throw his flag or not. Every hit we make, they’re all borderline.

“You can call a personal foul on every play, you can call a holding on every play, you can call a facemask on every play. It just depends on what the guys feel like calling.’’

Safety Matt Giordano said the Raiders respect the rules but can’t be affected on the field by concern over getting a flag and positioning themselves for a hit that is within the rules.

“It slows you down as a defensive player if you’re thinking, `OK, how can I hit this guy,’ ‘’ Giordano said.“ I honestly think as a defender, that’s how defenders get hurt, they’re thinking about where to place their head on a receiver’s body, because if they go too high, they could actually damage themselves rather than make the play that they needed to make.’’

While Jackson said the Raiders weren’t allowed to fine players for penalties, defensive tackle Tommy Kelly said there is a “fine jar’’ and that players are aware of the problem.

“We have officials every day at practice,’’ Kelly said. “Coach stresses it. We stress it with each other. I don’t know what else we can do.’’

Following a Week 2 loss in Buffalo, when Richard Seymour and Kelly among others were grumbling about all the flags the Raiders get as opposed to teams without their reputation, players have been careful with their words.

“I’m not really going to comment officiating,’’ tight end Kevin Boss said. “Coach took care of that.’’

Said Giordano: “You know what, you can’t control what the refs do. That’s what they do. I’ve never seen a ref lose or win a game. So it always comes down the players so you’ve always got to be ready and with the understanding that you’ve got to play with poise.’’

Even Curry, whose helmet-to-helmet personal foul against Minnesota seemed particularly iffy, wasn’t taking the bait.

“The referees are just doing their job,’’ Curry said. “There’s a rule book and the Raiders are going by it.’’

A few other notes:

– Place kicker Sebastian Janikowski felt his sore left hamstring was a factor on the 49-yard field goal attempt that was blocked.

“I had to kick it lower to get it there and I kicked it too low,’’ Janikowski said.

He said he goes to treatment every day but conceded it could bother him all season.

“With hamstrings, they take awhile to heal,’’ Janikowski said.

– Center Samson Satele, who left the game with a concussion, was in the locker room and talking to reporters. He said he felt fine. Asked about the concussion protocol for being cleared to play, he said, “It hasn’t come up yet. I’ll go see now.’’

– Boss was pleased to be included as a part of the passing offense, catching five passes for 37 yards with a long of 11.

“It was real nice. I want to feel involved and help this team the way I know how,’’ Boss said. “I haven’t lost any confidence in my abilities. I know what I can do to help this team in that part of the offense. So it felt good.’’

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  • REALLIONAIREB

    Hahahahaha

  • GoodOle00

    193. Which is why evidence and data gathered from as many diverse sources as possible and culled down to which ones are more likely factual than not serve by a pre-ponderance of that eveidence that which is more likely true than not.

    Whats your formula?

    No wait, I already know.

  • LA to TheBay
  • Thec07

    GoodOle00 Says:
    November 21st, 2011 at 2:29 pm
    194. Hagan never made a tackle as a gunner.

    ++++++++++

    Question, i know Hagan was not a Coach pick however, why would you let him go for a guy like TJ?

    I understand TJ knows the game, and will be a good influnece on the team however, what did him coming on board do to the chemistry of the WR corp?

    Good or Bad?

  • HayesDaze37

    RoMcClain?? McClain’s presence in the middle is HUGE. He doesn’t need to make as many tackles as some are demanding…he needs to be accounted-for on as many plays as possible. For the most part, McClain’s done a good job in that regard.

    Would I like McClain to be a little more aggressive? Yes, but…not at the expense of being in the right place most of the time. If some of his detractors would look a little closer, they’d see the plays he makes. Other QB’s see what he can do…he occupies an immense amount of space, and moves in that space very well. McClain’s doing just fine for a 2nd-year pro…just short of Pro Bowl level.

  • GoodOle00

    200. EXACTLY

    Which is why taking what they say as gospel, or many gospel is spurious at best 90% of the time

  • LA to TheBay

    For what it’s worth, according to CBS crew, players told them Hue was one of the most honest coaches they had ever played for. That he scours waiver wire and tells them if they can’t get the job done, he will bring in someone who can.

    Cool.

  • GoodOle00

    204. Too early to tell. Whats it been 2-3 wks?

  • Thec07

    GoodOle00 Says:
    November 21st, 2011 at 2:33 pm
    193. Which is why evidence and data gathered from as many diverse sources as possible and culled down to which ones are more likely factual than not serve by a pre-ponderance of that eveidence that which is more likely true than not.

    Whats your formula?

    No wait, I already know.
    +++++++

    hahahahaha…I am in hear posting mostly daily.
    The stuff that Jerry, becker, and steve put up in hear are mostly regurgitations of the Oakland Raiders pressers.

    I also go to sites like PFT, NFL.com, for information and daily google searches regarding all news Raiders.

    nice try though…

  • GoodOle00

    Thec, thanks for having a civil conversation with me about football.

    Enjoy the day and lets hope Bey and TJ have success this season.

    Peace owt!

  • 901R8DR

    While a lot of the penalties are legit some of the ones at crucial times are extremely suspect. The refs know if they make bad calls against the Raiders, they won’t get busted on NFL network or ESPN. If its a questionable call they make it against the Raiders. Theres a rule book for them and a rule book for the Raiders. If its not obvious then make up a rule no one has heard of. They would never make these kind of calls against the cowgirls or the expat riots. Glad to see Hue yanking up for the team

  • lefty12

    McClain is the second leading tackler on the team while having 2 bad wheels and missing a lot of playing time due to his injuries.Anyone who can’t see our defense is MUCH better when he plays must not be watching or doesn’t want to see what is happening.

  • HayesDaze37

    DHB?? Looks to me like he’s proved to Hue, and to CPalmer, that he’s up to the task, and can be trusted to catch the ball under many different circumstances. DHB has been answering the call all season, and that’s good for all of us.

  • GoodOle00

    209. If you do so much research, why are you wrong?

    ;)

    Lates!

  • Silverandblack666

    “You also have to wonder why a 6 yr vet like Hagan never caught on and why he’s still unemployed right now if hes so specdial?”

    Lito Sheppard was not wanted by the 31 other teams out there and he is now our starter.

  • Thec07

    GoodOle00 Says:
    November 21st, 2011 at 2:38 pm
    209. If you do so much research, why are you wrong?

    Lates!

    +++++++++++

    hahahaha…your opinion Bruh, however it was fum…lol

  • GoodOle00

    211. Yeah, I like to see refs wait to see if a plays going to be big or not them negate it with a late flag.

    “Ooh! screen play stopped, no! DMC busts it for 24 yds! Better throw a phantom flag.”

  • beach

    Sullivan, it’s a rule that when the ball comes out during a throwing motion. Jackass Brady cocked his arm forward, brought it back in, and Woodson bodyslammed his ugly ass.

    You are a moron. Go somewhere else. You don’t like the Raiders, and I can’t stand your ignorant opinions.

  • Thec07

    GoodOle00 Says:
    November 21st, 2011 at 2:37 pm
    Thec, thanks for having a civil conversation with me about football.

    Enjoy the day and lets hope Bey and TJ have success this season.

    Peace owt!

    ++++++++++

    I will, and you do the same…

    1 NATION.

  • GoodOle00

    216. Peace brah!

  • lefty12

    Beach,then ignore it and don’t feed it by responding which is what it craves.

  • RAIDERMAN99

    It’s possible Hue might not have a great affinity for DHB, but I don’t think that’s the case.

    It did seem that DHB was seeing less action, or at the very least wasn’t as actively involved for the last 2 weeks prior to yesterday’s game.

    However, it appeared that he was playing quite a bit yesterday and performing quite well (with the exception of the jump ball through his hands). Made a nice grab and really strong YAC for a first down on one particular play that comes to mind.

    Jacoby being out could have played a role in DHB’s reemergence.

    No, I doubt that DHB was in Hue’s doghouse. Think it was more a funcction of Hue trying to determine exactly what role DHB is best suited for and also DHB getting on the same page as Palmer. With Ford out, Moore is the primary deep threat. DHB was envisioned as a deep threat, and he might eventually become one. He’s yet to show he can make over the shoulder grabs. At this point it appears he’s more suited to intermediate routes and passes that enable him to face the QB and utilize his strength for YAC. Not a pure posession receiver, which is probably what Hue was looking for, and why Houshbringsnada was brought into the fold.

    I think DHB is going to have a good career with the Raids. Have my doubts about him, but unlike Corkran I see him as much more than the 6th best WR on the squad and a guy whose topside remains to be seen.

  • Thec07

    lefty12 Says:
    November 21st, 2011 at 2:43 pm
    Beach,then ignore it and don’t feed it by responding which is what it craves.

    +++++++++

    ROFLMAO….

  • http://build-a-bully 909RaiderLifer

    Jerrymcd HueJax says DHB doing well. Wearing neck brace. Now it’s wait and see. Major tests have been done. Won’t rule out Sunday.
    18 minutes ago

  • beach

    Lefty/Thec,

    You are right. I will try harder not to respond anymore to the one who is not a Raider fan.

  • http://raiders.com The Real Albert Bigelow Paine

    Is it likely that something isn’t quite right when for 30 years the Raids consistently are the most penalized team in the NFL ? Highly.
    ———
    The one constant in that equation is Al Davis. It may take years for that reputation to wear off.

  • Silverandblack666

    “Sullivan, it’s a rule that when the ball comes out during a throwing motion. Jackass Brady cocked his arm forward, brought it back in, and Woodson bodyslammed his ugly ass.

    You are a moron. Go somewhere else. You don’t like the Raiders, and I can’t stand your ignorant opinions.”

    Great post I agree 100%

    Nobody is more short sided and arrogantly wrong on a daily basis than Sandusky44

  • http://www.buffalobeast.com Sullivan44

    beach Says:
    November 21st, 2011 at 2:40 pm

    Sullivan, it’s a rule that when the ball comes out during a throwing motion. Jackass Brady cocked his arm forward, brought it back in, and Woodson bodyslammed his ugly ass.

    You are a moron. Go somewhere else. You don’t like the Raiders, and I can’t stand your ignorant opinions.
    ————
    And you’re an idiot who can’t follow along. Even the Raiders said it’s a rule, but they’re not happy. Even Brady said it’s a rule, and he’s glad for it. Everyone who sees it says it sucks, but acknowledges it’s a rule that has been used many times. I notice you ignored my comments about it being called many times this year alone. That’s because you are slow, and takes you time to figure things out. Like most of the posters here. Hey, you’re Raider fans. goes along with the territory.

  • lefty12

    In the SD game DHB played almost every down on offense.The whole game the safety doubled or cheated to his side thereby leaving Moore in single coverage.Palmer attacked the single coverage.Yesterday they didn’t double him every play and Palmer threw him the ball.How can people say he is being phased out?

  • http://www.buffalobeast.com Sullivan44

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    November 21st, 2011 at 2:51 pm

    “Sullivan, it’s a rule that when the ball comes out during a throwing motion. Jackass Brady cocked his arm forward, brought it back in, and Woodson bodyslammed his ugly ass.

    You are a moron. Go somewhere else. You don’t like the Raiders, and I can’t stand your ignorant opinions.”

    Great post I agree 100%
    ———–
    Of course you follow along, OakGlenn. I’ve made you my bicch so many times you’ve lost count. Now get lost for a month, or I’ll be forced to remove you.

  • RaidingTexas

    The Real Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    The one constant in that equation is Al Davis. It may take years for that reputation to wear off.

    ————————

    I said the same thing earlier. The problem is, you could more easily get away with it in the 70s and 80s. In today’s NFL, you have to be smarter. They will call everything, especially when you have a longtime reputation for dirty play.

  • http://www.buffalobeast.com Sullivan44

    Hue is thrilled DHB went down. He’s been trying to figure out how to bench him without getting all of your panties wadded. Him being injury prone took care of it for him. Team is better off with DHB in a brace. Just the way it is.

  • http://www.buffalobeast.com Sullivan44

    Al is gone. You all comprende’? That was the excuse you used all these years, that it’s payback against Al. Yeah, was weak, and pathetic, but still you ran it because it made you feel better. Well, now what’s the excuse? Amy annoy them? Marc’s surfer haircut bug them?

  • http://www.buffalobeast.com Sullivan44

    Check out the 49er board. It’s on fire. Great exchanges. Some of you should try it sometime.

  • lefty12

    The problem isn’t the officials calling penalties on us that are penalties or borderline penalties,the problem is they won’t or don’t call the same plays penalties against the teams we are playing.That is what HJ complained about.All anyone wants is a level playing field.

  • inonewordraider

    Ford and DHB won’t play, Chaz time to shine, Murphy get back on the vigra

  • lefty12

    For what it’s worth,HJ said he wouldn’t be surprised if DHB played this week.

  • Silverandblack666

    Sandusky44

    STFU your an inbreed moron that is deranged!

    Not one person here likes you are cares to read your crap.

    You are useless and reek of desperation.

  • raiderinparadise

    TJ was a “pillow” move. It was done so to comfort palmer. I would rather have Hagan too, but lets get real, his 11 recieving yards and a few nice blocks weren’t amazing.

    So get over it.

    If DHB, or ford or someone went IR, then he would be signed.

  • raiderinparadise

    Yeah I really really like Chaz Schilens, even tho he scultpures his eyebrows and prob hangs out in SF with jeff garcia, he is a good WR when healthy and put in postion to make plays, he makes them.

    6’4 225, fast and huge vertical.

    can’t ignore his great hands too.

    because of his injury history we will never have to pay him more than minimum.

    He is a great blocker too.

    I always like to see him used in the red zone. Murphy has quickly become a special teamer and rotational WR.

  • Silverandblack666

    I understand but realize that hagan was a damn good gunner especially on punts and the week after he was let go Denver ran a punt back for a TD.

    I am agnostic to the move but I will say that Hagan was a very good gunner.

  • raiderhaterhater

    November 21st, 2011 at 12:39 pm
    I’ve never seen a ref lose or win a game

    -Matt Giordano

    ***

    couldn’t agree more!

    Really? I guess you guys never saw the Tuck rule game..Um , That game was won by the Raiders until Walt Coleman decided to dig thru his rule book a bit deeper. Oh I know, You guys knew all about the Tuck rule long before that play Because it gets called all the time. Right..Never called before, never called again. There are countless games we have lossed because of poor officiating. Those officials personally put the Vikings in position to score the first 7 points of the game Sunday with three bogus personal foul calls in a row. Last I checked, They would have punted on 4th and 20 instead of moving 15 yards closer to the goal line with a fresh set of downs. It amazes me that different players come in every year and we still own the flag contest every year. Its not because we are dirty, its because we are looked at alot closer. Benefit of the doubt goes against us every single time. Other teams get the benefit of the doubt. If you havent noticed, you arent watching.

  • http://www.buffalobeast.com Sullivan44

    Raiderhaterhater,
    The tuck rule also was enforced in the NFL playoff game on January 9, 2011 between the Kansas City Chiefs and the Baltimore Ravens.

    The tuck rule was also enforced on October 2nd, 2011 during a game between the Buffalo Bills and the Cincinnati Bengals. When the Bengals Andy Dalton was tackled by two Bills defenders and the ball was returned for a touchdown by the Bills Bryan Scott. After reviewing the play, the officials ruled that Andy Dalton was tucking the ball, reversing the touchdown and giving the Bengals control of the ball.

    The tuck rule was also enforced on October 30, 2011 during a game between the Seattle Seahawks and the Cincinnati Bengals. Andy Dalton started into his throwing motion but decided not to throw the pass. The ball came out of his hand and traveled backwards striking the umpire. Dalton fell on the ball at the one yard line but it was later ruled an incomplete pass.

    Now apologizing for being so stupid.

  • raiders4lifebich

    I’ve never seen a ref lose or win a game

    dumbass remember the tuck rule game

  • huntdogg2

    Thanks Hue for finally saying something, it may not help at all, but at least they knew were aware.

  • RaiderFan85

    Hue way to go! Sticking up for the team, goes a long ways in that locker room! Been a fan since 74 and can’t remember when we weren’t tops on the penalty list or near the top.
    Always been the norm, but seems like the officials use it as an excuse to get airtime…
    We have all been waiting a long time for this kind of a start!
    I have been reminding the nay sayers (Dolts, Chefs, Pony Fans) of “Al’s” brilliance with the picks… Yes!!!!
    Props to Hue for saving our season, and making us viable contenders again!
    I leave you with “Just Win Baby”!!!!

  • 1reynaldo

    Hey dumb -ss sully dude the Tuck rule was
    Taken out of the rule book The following year. Try again just because you think they were similar plays they were not called by the tuck rule. 6-4 Dumb-ss deal with it your gay boys across the bay will fold like a tent. Sorry specitar Boy

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