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Raiders let Jackson address penalties

Looks like the Raiders are fine with allowing Hue Jackson to be the front man in their issues with NFL officials.

Jackson broke his policy of not criticizing officials in the wake of some calls in a 27-21 win over the Minnesota Vikings that left him scratching his head.

He said he planned on contacting the NFL and simply wanted a fair playing field.

At one point Jackson said he didn’t know what a legal hit is any more.

Jackson talks to the media at 2 p.m. in his weekly press briefing, at which point he’ll be asked about the penalties and also presumably have an update on injured wide receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey.

With 12 penalties for 117 yards against the Vikings, Oakland leads the NFL with 103 penalties for 892 yards and is on pace set the league record in both categories. They have 17 personal fouls on defense alone, just two behind the 1998 Chiefs over 16 games when they set the current NFL records of 158 penalties and 1,304 yards.

And the Raiders still have six games to play.

Linebacker Aaron Curry has already been hit with three personal fouls since joining the Raiders.

“The thing about it football is a game full of personal fouls,’’ Curry said. “They’re all personal. It all depends on whether a referee decides to throw his flag or not. Every hit we make, they’re all borderline.

“You can call a personal foul on every play, you can call a holding on every play, you can call a facemask on every play. It just depends on what the guys feel like calling.’’

Safety Matt Giordano said the Raiders respect the rules but can’t be affected on the field by concern over getting a flag and positioning themselves for a hit that is within the rules.

“It slows you down as a defensive player if you’re thinking, `OK, how can I hit this guy,’ ‘’ Giordano said.“ I honestly think as a defender, that’s how defenders get hurt, they’re thinking about where to place their head on a receiver’s body, because if they go too high, they could actually damage themselves rather than make the play that they needed to make.’’

While Jackson said the Raiders weren’t allowed to fine players for penalties, defensive tackle Tommy Kelly said there is a “fine jar’’ and that players are aware of the problem.

“We have officials every day at practice,’’ Kelly said. “Coach stresses it. We stress it with each other. I don’t know what else we can do.’’

Following a Week 2 loss in Buffalo, when Richard Seymour and Kelly among others were grumbling about all the flags the Raiders get as opposed to teams without their reputation, players have been careful with their words.

“I’m not really going to comment officiating,’’ tight end Kevin Boss said. “Coach took care of that.’’

Said Giordano: “You know what, you can’t control what the refs do. That’s what they do. I’ve never seen a ref lose or win a game. So it always comes down the players so you’ve always got to be ready and with the understanding that you’ve got to play with poise.’’

Even Curry, whose helmet-to-helmet personal foul against Minnesota seemed particularly iffy, wasn’t taking the bait.

“The referees are just doing their job,’’ Curry said. “There’s a rule book and the Raiders are going by it.’’

A few other notes:

– Place kicker Sebastian Janikowski felt his sore left hamstring was a factor on the 49-yard field goal attempt that was blocked.

“I had to kick it lower to get it there and I kicked it too low,’’ Janikowski said.

He said he goes to treatment every day but conceded it could bother him all season.

“With hamstrings, they take awhile to heal,’’ Janikowski said.

– Center Samson Satele, who left the game with a concussion, was in the locker room and talking to reporters. He said he felt fine. Asked about the concussion protocol for being cleared to play, he said, “It hasn’t come up yet. I’ll go see now.’’

– Boss was pleased to be included as a part of the passing offense, catching five passes for 37 yards with a long of 11.

“It was real nice. I want to feel involved and help this team the way I know how,’’ Boss said. “I haven’t lost any confidence in my abilities. I know what I can do to help this team in that part of the offense. So it felt good.’’

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  • raiderinparadise

    Giordano said the right veteran thing and took the high-road.

    If it becomes a distraction, then its more of an issue. Were winning and 1st place in division.

    Thats the focus.

    The Bears should be the focus.

  • GoodOle00

    134.Seymour Bush Says:
    November 21st, 2011 at 1:45 pm
    GoodOle00 Says:
    November 21st, 2011 at 1:35 pm

    104. Really? I agree it wasn’t McClain’s best day but Ponder an for 71 yds.
    =====================================

    To me, all you have to do is look at AP’s TD yesterday. Look at that play. And then multiply it by a year and a half.

    ===================

    First it was Al Davis and his meddling and dated defensive tactics.

    Now we’ve got carte blnc and run all manner of D and its McClain’s fault.

    I say see the Tebow game with Blackstock at MLB.

    It would be nice if McClain was playing like a top 10 DP but hes better than what people think and hes playing on a bad wheel…in his SECOND season

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    One problem, Imo, is that the NFL tweaks the rules, every damned year.

  • http://www.buffalobeast.com Sullivan44

    It appears Hue isn’t into reading. If he was he would know that all teams complain about bad calls. Hue acts like it’s just the Raiders. Reason there is no discipline is because so megaegotist named Al made sure the team knew he, and only he was in charge. Players don’t care what Hue, or Cable, or Kiffin, or Shell, etc, had to say.

  • http://build-a-bully 909RaiderLifer

    Jackson broke his policy of not criticizing officials in the wake of some calls in a 27-21 win over the Minnesota Vikings that left him scratching his head.

    He said he planned on contacting the NFL and simply wanted a fair playing field.

    “““““““““““““““““““““““““““`
    Hererra has been in the darkroom splicing “tape” since the team got back in town last night, to aid in Hue’s presentation to Emperor Rog….

  • Thec07

    Bey seeing more time than TJ is another misleading statement.

    +++++++++

    question, since TJ has been with the team and before DNB’s injury which Wr hass seen the field the most?

  • GoodOle00

    154. RMR cannnot help himslef. reveals his hand everytime.

    Time to trot out another troll name

  • Thec07

    “I will take what the coaches say as being gospel”

    And there in the problem lies.

    “All warfare is based on deception”

    Football is a metaphor for war.

    Coaches certainly aren;t always going to come out and state things.

    ++++++

    hahahahaha…So show me where on the web, pressers where Coach Jackson or coach Saunders say they have an issue with DHB…

    Show me 1 thread…

  • http://www.buffalobeast.com Sullivan44

    Amazing anyone still brings up the Tuck game. IT’S A RULE, WAS A RULE, AND IS STILL A RULE, YOU MORONS. That was called earlier that year, was called this year many times. Stop crying. It’s a rule. Yeah, yeah, in that case we came out on the short end, but it’s still a rule.

  • http://build-a-bully 909RaiderLifer

    PGutierrezCSN “Darrius is fine…he’s moving around, walking around…he’s doing good.” – @RAIDERS Hue Jackson
    3 minutes ago
    “““““““““““““““““““““““““““`
    Good news!

  • Seymour Bush

    Sullivan44 Says:
    November 21st, 2011 at 2:05 pm

    Amazing anyone still brings up the Tuck game. IT’S A RULE, WAS A RULE, AND IS STILL A RULE, YOU MORONS.
    =====================================

    I wonder what Debo, alex7 and Albert Bigelow have to say.

  • http://www.buffalobeast.com Sullivan44

    It’s been decades since Al Davis has been relevant. Most of these ref’s weren’t even in the league the last time Al went head to head with the league. You’re grasping at straws. Looking for excuses. Face it, the team is undisciplined. Want proof? Read the words of so many ex-players, from Hall, to Nnamdi, to Wilson, to Gannon, to Lott to Rice to Woodson, etc. All state the team is undisciplined. None of them blamed the refs. They blamed the organization.

  • http://www.buffalobeast.com Sullivan44

    Shut up, Oakglenn, you crossposting POS.

  • Thec07

    Jackson lies so yes, while you can get info from coaches, people who really want to know whats going on look to outside sources like IBA and this blog right here…

    +++++++++

    What proof do you have that coach Jackson Lied regarding DHB????

    Unless you are at practices, have verifiable inside intel, or are part of the coaching staff, you cannot definetively say what the “real” reasons are.

  • http://www.buffalobeast.com Sullivan44

    Hue is like a out of control puppet, who suddenly found out his strings weren’t attached. He runs into walls. He says the dumbest things. He has no control of himself, or his team.

  • GoodOle00

    156. 27 plays vs 17 or so? Who cares?

    See, when you take one view as “gospel” you discount factors and variables.

    U never stopped to consider TJ may not have been in A 1 top NFL condition after joining us 8 games in?

    Maybe THATS why he hasn’t seen as much time or that the game plan has been the deep ball (like against SD) and not the intermediate stuff he AND Bey are good at?

    Yesterday was and thanks to Fords injury Bey saw time after a benching.

    Why not TJ? Ask Hue.

    He’ll tell U a partial truth or lie to you.

    Thats the nature war. hes not going to come out and tell the world. “Hey, Bey sucks, Davis was wrong and hes gone at the end of the season.”

    or tell you “TJs a non factor cuz hes not physically ready so our next opponent won;’t have to worry about defending the under neath and chain moving pass plays as much.”

    Think about it.

  • http://www.buffalobeast.com Sullivan44

    Yeah, Hue lied. He stated he let Boss and DHB know. They said they had no idea. He said Carson was chomping at the bit to go in, and actually asked him to go in. Carson said he told Hue is wasn’t ready, and should not go in. Hue is a liar, and has lost all respect with the media and the fans. Except for some of you slow one.s

  • http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders r8eray

    @icecube Ice Cube
    Note to the NFL. Al Davis has passed away. DROP THE GRUDGE!
    20 Nov
    Retweeted by VittorioTafur

  • Thec07

    Jackson lies so yes,

    +++++++++

    Based on what your intel…If you said you had true intel on what was going on then yeah may bite however, give some proof to what you are saying…

    You saying coach Jackson and coach Saunders both lied with respect to DHB prove it…

  • Silverandblack666

    STFU Sandusky44!!!!!

    You are not a Raider fan you are not allowed to say “WE”

    Stupid degenerate!

  • http://build-a-bully 909RaiderLifer

    PGutierrezCSN “Are you kidding me? What for?” – @RAIDERS coach Jackson, when asked if he expected to be fined.
    3 minutes ago
    “““““““““““““““““““““““““““`
    Hue better be ready to dip into the “fine jar” just in case…

  • GoodOle00

    166. NOT that thats what I’m sazying is happening. Just an exampl,e of the varibales and reasons why taking Coaches word for it is absurd.

    Why the h**l would you need reporters and analysts of they just told everything straight up?

    All part of the game

  • Thec07

    27 plays vs 17 or so? Who cares?

    ++++++++

    So if he is benched as you said for TJ then why is he getting more time…lol

  • GoodOle00

    169. Clearly critical and deductive reasoning are beyond you.

    No need to prove that.

  • LA to TheBay

    Sullivan44 Says:
    November 21st, 2011 at 2:10 pm
    Hue is like a out of control puppet, who suddenly found out his strings weren’t attached. He runs into walls. He says the dumbest things. He has no control of himself, or his team.

    —————

    Thought Hue gave you hope?

    Who trolls as MR?

    Weird.

  • Thec07

    Yesterday was and thanks to Fords injury Bey saw time after a benching.

    +++++++++

    Ah no, yesterday was thanks to the doubling of DMO…

  • raiderinparadise

    My take on McClain … I understand its his 2nd year, young guy thrown in the mix at a very key D position.

    I never questioned his size, ability, etc…
    The plays he doesn’t make have nothing to do with that.

    To me, the plays he doesn’t make are a lack of effort, violence and aggression … wont matter if it year 1 or year 7, the kid plays soft for a MLB ina 4-3.

  • Thec07

    GoodOle00 Says:
    November 21st, 2011 at 2:15 pm
    169. Clearly critical and deductive reasoning are beyond you.

    No need to prove that.

    ++++++

    No what is clear is you make a statement, such as Coach Jackson is lying, and have no proof…

  • morilla

    Gotta love Elway squashing all the “I won’t even say his name anymore” supporters.

  • Thec07

    Thats the nature war. hes not going to come out and tell the world. “Hey, Bey sucks, Davis was wrong and hes gone at the end of the season.”

    +++++++++++++

    So you are saying DHB is gone by the end of the season?

  • Silverandblack666

    “To me, the plays he doesn’t make are a lack of effort, violence and aggression … wont matter if it year 1 or year 7, the kid plays soft for a MLB ina 4-3″

    Tackling is a mentality (its more mental than physical in some ways) you have to want to bring another man down and bring him down hard!

    If you do not have this inbreed into you it cannot be taught.

  • GoodOle00

    173. I never said he was benched for TJ but U don;t find it odd that Bey making plays as a possession receiver gets benched after they bring in a very non Raider slow, VETERAN possession receiver who stated “OAKLAND HAS FAST GUYS BUT NO ONE WHO CAN RUN THE UNDERNEATH ROUTES”?

    Plus I already said, maybe after such a long absence TJ wasn’t up to cardio.

    THE POINT, so you dont get distracted or derail with nit picked minutia is that Hue does not show his hand or divulge all the facts about anything within the org.
    Players, personell, future contracts, personell decsions ect ect.

  • raiderzmaverick

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    November 21st, 2011 at 12:39 pm

    I’ve never seen a ref lose or win a game

    -Matt Giordano

    ***

    couldn’t agree more!
    =================================
    I disagree. Tuck rule comes to mind. There are a few games that VERY iffy calls or blatantly strange calls have kept going a drive that otherwise would’ve ended the game etc.

    Obviously if we play so much better than the other team it don’t matter, but if it’s close and suddenly something that would’ve ended a drive now becomes a “pass interference” and they’re 35 yards down the field and it’s close and then they score when before they wouldn’t have that can definitely effect the outcome of a game. On a 3rd down sack that’s suddenly “unnecessary roughness” or some penalty it could change the whole outcome of a game. A fumble that isn’t really a fumble or a catch that’s deemed “incomplete” etc.

    I could go on as I’ve seen it too many times change the outcome of games. And we’re not dominant enough to yet so it doesn’t matter at all.

  • inonewordraider

    GoodOle00 Says:
    November 21st, 2011 at 2:21 pm
    173. I never said he was benched for TJ but U don;t find it odd that Bey making plays as a possession receiver gets benched after they bring in a very non Raider slow, VETERAN possession receiver who stated “OAKLAND HAS FAST GUYS BUT NO ONE WHO CAN RUN THE UNDERNEATH ROUTES”?

    Plus I already said, maybe after such a long absence TJ wasn’t up to cardio.

    THE POINT, so you dont get distracted or derail with nit picked minutia is that Hue does not show his hand or divulge all the facts about anything within the org.
    Players, personell, future contracts, personell decsions ect ect.

    _____________________
    so if you read between the lines DWOW is gone by years end because he only got one pass thrown to him Sunday… DHB is a Raider and is gonna stay a Raider, get used to it

  • raiderzmaverick

    I still think I’d rather have Hagan than TJ. Hagan was also a good downfield blocker.

    I think TJ is a worthless pickup (maybe one day I’ll eat my words, but I don’t think so).

  • Silverandblack666

    “So you are saying DHB is gone by the end of the season?”

    No way DHB is gone next year as he will make less than 1 Million next year and has already been paid tons of money. No reason to let him go after you paid him so much and now you are getting him on at a low cost.

  • http://build-a-bully 909RaiderLifer

    @RAIDERS coach Hue Jackson says @theDHB85 also had a concussion
    2 minutes ago

  • Thec07

    Why not TJ? Ask Hue.

    He’ll tell U a partial truth or lie to you.

    Thats the nature war. hes not going to come out and tell the world. “Hey, Bey sucks, Davis was wrong and hes gone at the end of the season.”

    or tell you “TJs a non factor cuz hes not physically ready so our next opponent won;’t have to worry about defending the under neath and chain moving pass plays as much.”

    Think about it.

    +++++++++

    this part of your convo is a laugher….

    TJ is a non factor becuase he is not up to it yet Physically?

    Then he cuts Hagan a guy that is productive and knows the play book and can handle the mid range stuff?

    Coach Jackson want to win, why would he cut Hagan for TJ to sit him knowing Hagan has be producing.

    during the Physical he would have know TJ was not ready.

  • REALLIONAIREB

    Well put SliverandBlack

  • GoodOle00

    supporters.

    180.Thec07 Says:
    November 21st, 2011 at 2:19 pm
    Thats the nature war. hes not going to come out and tell the world. “Hey, Bey sucks, Davis was wrong and hes gone at the end of the season.”

    +++++++++++++

    So you are saying DHB is gone by the end of the season?

    ==================

    172.GoodOle00 Says:
    November 21st, 2011 at 2:13 pm
    166. NOT that thats what I’m sazying is happening. Just an exampl,e of the varibales and reasons why taking Coaches word for it is absurd.

    ——-

    So your saying thinking or reading comprehension not a strong suit.

    Okay, I’m out…

  • HayesDaze37

    It’s a great day to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?!

    Hue Jax lies?? Duh!!

    ALL coaches lie…it’s in the job description. As such, it’s really not telling “lies,” it’s doing the job. If everybody knew what was in a coach’s head…the big picture…they’d see how he can’t tell it like it is every time.

    Hue Jax has many more things to think about than some of the little things made bigger by the blogosphere.

    BTW…TJ Hoosyermama doesn’t take away DHB’s plays.

  • inonewordraider

    Okay, I’m out…

    ________________
    don’t come back

  • Thec07

    THE POINT, so you dont get distracted or derail with nit picked minutia is that Hue does not show his hand or divulge all the facts about anything within the org.
    Players, personell, future contracts, personell decsions ect ect.

    ++++++++++

    Which is exaclty why you cannot definetively say he lied or not…Unless you are part of the org…Period.

  • Silverandblack666

    “I still think I’d rather have Hagan than TJ. Hagan was also a good downfield blocker.”

    Hagan was a gunner on ST and a damn good one!

  • Rellik30

    I always thought someone should put together a film of all the cheap calls we have had over the years…then send them to the bookies, because it fs up the lines. If the NFL dosent fix it, the mob will.

  • REALLIONAIREB

    we need 2 get our 4th qtr woes fix b4 December baby

    1-nation!!!

  • GoodOle00

    Ohh, Hagan had been producing!

    11 catches for 114 yds.

    Yeah, I can see why he should’ve stayed.

    Truth is, Hagan was not a Jackson pick. Its well documented by IBA that Jackson wanted TJ instead of Hagan and was over ruled.

    You also have to wonder why a 6 yr vet like Hagan never caught on and why he’s still unemployed right now if hes so specdial?

  • Thec07

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    November 21st, 2011 at 2:26 pm
    “I still think I’d rather have Hagan than TJ. Hagan was also a good downfield blocker.”

    Hagan was a gunner on ST and a damn good one!

    ++++++++

    Faster, in good football condition, not injuried, and knows the play book.

  • GoodOle00

    194. Hagan never made a tackle as a gunner.

  • lefty12

    Coaches don’t lie.They just don’t tell the whole truth-conveniently omit many things.Nothing wrong with that.You never want to reveal everything to your opponent.