Broncos cut QB Orton; exposing him to Raiders, Bears
By Steve Corkran
Tuesday, November 22nd, 2011 at 5:55 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Denver Broncos coach John Fox said he waived quarterback Kyle Orton on Tuesday, in part, so that Orton could catch on with another team and help that team down the road.
Left unsaid is whether Fox wants that team to be the Chicago Bears, given they just lost starting quarterback Jay Cutler to a thumb injury and play the Raiders on Sunday. The Broncos trail the Raiders by one game in the AFC West.
“We feel good about our quarterback group, and this gives Kyle an opportunity to help another team and showcase his talents,” Fox said.
First things first. Orton now is subject to the waiver process, which makes him available to the league’s 31 other teams for the next 24 hours, in reverse order of records.
For example, the Indianapolis Colts get first crack at Orton based on their 0-10 record. The 10-0 Green Bay Packers would get Orton only if they placed a claim and the 30 teams ahead of them passed.
Interestingly, the Raiders would get Orton before the Bears based upon Oakland’s 6-4 record, one game worse than the 7-3 Bears.
So, in theory, the Raiders could claim Orton as a means of preventing him from being claimed by the Bears. In that case, the Raiders would be liable for the remainder of his hefty salary this season — almost $500,000 per game — and forced to cut a player from their 53-man roster.
The smart money says, the Raiders pass on placing a claim on Orton. Some might say that the Raiders should want the Bears to get Orton because of how well they have fared against Orton in the past.
As of now, the Bears are poised to go with untested quarterack Caleb Hanie. Claiming Orton might give them a better option down the road, but the Bears would be hard-pressed to get Orton up to speed between now and the game Sunday.
Another interesting aspect to this situation involves the Broncos playing the Bears on Dec. 11. The Broncos surely would want to face the Bears with Hanie at quarterback, and not Orton. Or would they?
If nothing else, this makes for fun water-cooler talk on an off day for the Raiders. It will be interesting to hear coach Hue Jackson’s take Wednesday.
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November 22nd, 2011 at 5:55 pm
uno
November 22nd, 2011 at 5:59 pm
Jerry, Good take!
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:00 pm
Jerry, you get tomorrow off with pay! Enjoy!
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:02 pm
I insist my future wife an I sleep in bed sheets with a large AL Davis face imprinted..
That way i can Just win baby every night
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:03 pm
“We feel good about our quarterback group”
Tebow & Quinn.. yes i feel good about that too.. AS A RAIDER FAN
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:03 pm
Whether or not they finish last and draft Andrew Luck. The Colts would be foolish not to pick up Kyle for the last 6 games. He’s an upgrade over Curtis Painter. While I like Painter’s moxy and hoped he won a game or two. Orton makes the Colts a better team.
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:04 pm
Mamba, please show the picture, just so we have it right! 1967 or 2010?
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:05 pm
Its ORToN HUNTIN SEASON!
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:07 pm
But seriously guys the playoffs is on the line on Sunday!!!
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:11 pm
Colts, Fish, Texans, Chefs, Brownies, Bears, Sh@thawks, Skins could all use Orton. Don’t know if the Colts want to screw up their lead in the Luck lottery though.
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:13 pm
@CanuckRaider
I don’t think they’ll screw anything up. Orton won’t win them a lot of games. The fact is Orton is an upgrade at the QB position over Curtis Painter.
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:14 pm
This move was about the Broncos hoping someone puts in a claim and picks up the remainder of that salary so they don’t have to pay him. Has nothing to do with Raiders-Bears. Come on now.
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:14 pm
Raiders 31, Teddies 17
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:14 pm
So pretty much all we need to do is stop Forte (Mitchell Spy), don’t kick it to Hester (Best Punter in League), and look at the QB when he snaps the ball and we win this game?
I Know I’m missing something
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:15 pm
Raiders should pick up Orton and cut Boller. What if Campbell goes down? Boller at QB would destroy our season.
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:15 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Super Star Says:
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:15 pm
Raiders should pick up Orton and cut Boller. What if Campbell goes down? Boller at QB would destroy our season.
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Oops, I meant Palmer.
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:15 pm
Yeah Sean…He might just be able to get them a couple of wins at best. Question is…Will the Fish win again?
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:16 pm
Colts are in full-on suck for Luck mode right now. Why would the owner take $2.5 mil out of his pocket to rent Kyle Orton for 6 games during an 0-10 season?
Would you do that if it was your money?
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:16 pm
Raiders 26
Bears 10
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:17 pm
Why should we pay $500,000.00 a game for Orton when Soup will be healthy and our no.2 by the playoffs? Does not compute.
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:18 pm
7.860Todd Christensen Says:
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:04 pm
Mamba, please show the picture, just so we have it right! 1967 or 2010?
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LOL Todd As I am experienced in these fields I see it only fit that I represent the late Al davis and all of his experience.
http://www.tiricosuave.com/2011/01/18/so-this-is-what-al-davis-looks-like-nowadays/
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:19 pm
Chris In NY Says:
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:16 pm
Colts are in full-on suck for Luck mode right now. Why would the owner take $2.5 mil out of his pocket to rent Kyle Orton for 6 games during an 0-10 season?
Would you do that if it was your money?
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Bwahahahahaha…Lol……..Nooooope! LOL!
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:19 pm
CanuckRaider Says:
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:17 pm
Why should we pay $500,000.00 a game for Orton when Soup will be healthy and our no.2 by the playoffs? Does not compute.
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Palmer could go down this week.
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:19 pm
Nice update… How about this one:
Coach Hue Jackson revealed that Darrius Heyward-Bey sustained a concussion in addition to neck and back injuries in Week 11.
While it’s great news that DHB is moving around just fine with a neck brace on this week, his availability for Sunday’s game is in question. He’ll have to pass concussion tests and ensure that his neck is sound before returning to practice. Source: Sacramento Bee
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:20 pm
#23: So could Madonna.
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:21 pm
CanuckRaider Says:
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:17 pm
Why should we pay $500,000.00 a game for Orton when Soup will be healthy and our no.2 by the playoffs? Does not compute.
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Canuck, it’s not your money. Why do you care?
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:22 pm
We’re a little thin at WR right now…Not to mention how this revolving door is delaying the synchronization of Carson and the receiving corps.
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:22 pm
@Chris In NY
Why? It’s called team/player analysis. It’s about as being competitive as you can.
Do you think Indy wants last place? Honestly. C’mon man.
Did Carolina want to finish in last place?
How about the Raiders? Did you like us finishing in last place drafting Jamarcus Russell. Forget him for a second, 2-14, last place. That’s BS.
Orton makes the Colts a more competitive football team than Painter, because Orton is an improvement at that position of Quarterback.
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:23 pm
We don’t need Orton. I would rather see Pryor out there.
It’s funny though. In preseason Denver didn’t want Tebow. I wish we had picked him up then.
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:23 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Super Star Says:
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:21 pm
CanuckRaider Says:
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:17 pm
Why should we pay $500,000.00 a game for Orton when Soup will be healthy and our no.2 by the playoffs? Does not compute.
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Canuck, it’s not your money. Why do you care?
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If your talking bout the Oakland Raiders, than yeah it IS partly my money!
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:23 pm
Guess I’m just the caring type.
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:25 pm
Chris in NY, we always think alike. My question is:
This team is useless coming out of the gates in the second half. We try ball control, it isn’t working. Try maoving the chains, barely. Commit big mistakes, dearly. Why don’t we play the previous 30 minutes of good things for 25 more minutes? I am stunted as to believe how this team is letting down at the half, when ahead, and not blowing these teams out of games? I cannot figure this out???? I know this is old school Raider Football, but I thought Hue HAD it? Hue, they are really made of brass! USE EM !
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:27 pm
21.Blackmamba_20 Says:
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:18 pm
7.860Todd Christensen Says:
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:04 pm
Mamba, please show the picture, just so we have it right! 1967 or 2010?
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LOL Todd As I am experienced in these fields I see it only fit that I represent the late Al davis and all of his experience.
http://www.tiricosuave.com/2011/01/18/so-this-is-what-al-davis-looks-like-nowadays/
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Mamba, A True RAIDER! Raider On!
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:28 pm
8RaiderReign8 Says:
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:23 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Super Star Says:
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:21 pm
CanuckRaider Says:
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:17 pm
Why should we pay $500,000.00 a game for Orton when Soup will be healthy and our no.2 by the playoffs? Does not compute.
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Canuck, it’s not your money. Why do you care?
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If your talking bout the Oakland Raiders, than yeah it IS partly my money!
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Come on man! The Raiders have wasted much more money on worse players. They are wasting money on Kyle Boller right now.
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:28 pm
Why are we talking Ortin anyway!
How’s our offense gonna do against the Bear’s defense? Can Bush do it against their Lbs? Do we have a WR that can get open? When’s McFadden coming back? Why do we stall in the forth qtr? Why is my blood pressure at 150 on Sundays around 4pm?
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:29 pm
There is no way Orton could play against the Raiders. It’s practically Thursday.
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:32 pm
Come on man! The Raiders have wasted much more money on worse players. They are wasting money on Kyle Boller right now.
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seriously….. Thats your argument?
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:33 pm
Interesting. JC is most likely gone next year if Palmer continues to play solid.
Boller is just…well, not that good.
Orton might be a good pick up if JC doesn’t want to be a #2. Boller needs to move on as a #3 somewhere.
Palmer, Soup and Pryor would be a bad azz line up though.
Palmer, Orton and Pryor would be pretty good too.
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:33 pm
@8RaiderReign8
I expect Bush to start barring any surprises. That being said this isn’t Friday and the Injury report isn’t finalized yet.
Bears defense are fast and will try and create turnovers. You heard Urlacher say that the defense needs to be the team. That’s a little disrespectful to Matt Forte. So be it.
Bears Secondary sucks.
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:33 pm
Off on my days, I’m out of it.
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:34 pm
Regarding Orton;
Colts don’t want him, nor do they need him for what they’re trying to accomplish. Allegedly. Texans are rolling with Leinart. Pete Carroll traded draft picks for Tarvaris Jackson and would look like an idiot if he picked up Orton, so that isn’t happening. Dolphins are playing reasonably well with Matt Moore at QB and are going to draft one. Browns are NOT going to take him; they have to give Colt McCoy a chance because he’s been the starter and they’re not making the playoffs anyway. The Rat already has a Kyle Orton; his name is Rex Grossman, they’re not making the playoffs either and a higher draft pick means they get more choices when they draft a QB this year.
There are gentlemen’s agreements made all the time in the NFL. My guess is that the Bears get him and some sort of trade is made around draft time where the Broncos end up with a fourth or fifth rounder from the Bears for somebody you never heard of, and that guy is cut before training camp even begins. Unless Haley decides to be the a**hole that he is and jumps in and the Chiefs claim him.
Just my opinion, and I could be way off, but there it is.
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:35 pm
8RaiderReign8 Says:
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:28 pm
Why is my blood pressure at 150 on Sundays around 4pm?
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Denver and KC games did it for me.
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:35 pm
8RaiderReign8 Says:
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:32 pm
Come on man! The Raiders have wasted much more money on worse players. They are wasting money on Kyle Boller right now.
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seriously….. Thats your argument?
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Orton is a good QB. He may not be starter material anymore, but I would love to have him as a backup. JC isn’t going to stick around.
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:36 pm
@860Todd Christensen – thank you sir
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:36 pm
Raiders 21 Chicago 6
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:38 pm
Wow, the bronco’s have reached a whole new level of stupidity. They passed up a fourth rounder for orton and just let him go. If he goes to the bears the bronco’s will face him in a couple of weeks? Or the Chiefs could certainly get him.
Fox and Elway continuing on with the McDaniels tradition!
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:38 pm
Raiders will get their first fumble recovery for a return touchdown of the season.
7- 3 at halftime
14-6 in the 3rd
21-6 in the 4th
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:41 pm
RaiderSean Says:
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:33 pm
@8RaiderReign8
I expect Bush to start barring any surprises. That being said this isn’t Friday and the Injury report isn’t finalized yet.
Bears defense are fast and will try and create turnovers. You heard Urlacher say that the defense needs to be the team. That’s a little disrespectful to Matt Forte. So be it.
Bears Secondary sucks.
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Sounds like awesome suace!!! It’s really all on the oline
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:42 pm
30+ runs isn’t going to do it against the Bears’ front seven. Carson will be throwing more this Sunday. Keeping them off guard with good play calling will be a must. Bring your A-games Hue and Al. And Carson.
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:42 pm
Chicago opened as 1 1/2 point favorites
Raiders are now 4 1/2 point favorites
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:42 pm
45.RaiderRetribution Says:
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:36 pm
Raiders 21 Chicago 6
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This will be the score at the end of the 1st half.
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:43 pm
The Bears signed Orton this morning Cork
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:44 pm
Where did you read that KK?
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:44 pm
The Raiders need to sign a kicker. Jano, bouncing it up there to Hester is not going to get it.
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:45 pm
I just don’t want to see Jano’s hammy bouncing to Hester.
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:46 pm
Raiders are going to need to have their best pass protection of the season against Chicago;
run game will not be as effective, but must not be abandoned by any means;
Raiders need to maintain field position so as that Mr. Lechler can punt the ball out of bounds even if only for 30 yards;
Raiders defense or special teams needs to come up with a score, return it to the Black Hole for seven.
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:47 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:44 pm
The Raiders need to sign a kicker. Jano, bouncing it up there to Hester is not going to get it.
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Good point…
Someone get the Polak some damn sausage and vodka.
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:48 pm
CanuckRaider Says:
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:44 pm
Where did you read that KK?
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I read it at PFT this morning. I guess they jumped the gun.
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:49 pm
Not PFT jumping the gun? Lol.
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:50 pm
54.KoolKell Says:
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:44 pm
The Raiders need to sign a kicker. Jano, bouncing it up there to Hester is not going to get it.
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Been saying that for three weeks, Kell. Hamstring injuries are nothing to fool around with and if he’s not 100 per cent with two or three games to go in the regular season Hue will have made a big mistake by not shutting him down until he’s completely healthy. Those games could be critical, and his importance in the playoffs can’t be understated.
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:50 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:48 pm
CanuckRaider Says:
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:44 pm
Where did you read that KK?
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I read it at PFT this morning. I guess they jumped the gun.
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Or maybe you and I did
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:50 pm
Maybe Denver knows we have to play Bears and Chiefs but it doesnt matter. Orton wont help either in time.
No way do we want Orton’s contract. Just no way that would be a good signing at this point in time. By the time Orton gets any familiar with the team, Campbell will be back.
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:51 pm
Anyone else going to that bomb-making class at Cal-Berkley tonight?
There…That oughta give Homeland something to do tonight.
Later Nation…
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:53 pm
It is pretty dumb to dump Orton and let him play for the Bears when you are going to be playing them soon. Orton would like nothing more than to embarrass the Broncos and beat Tebow.
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:53 pm
860Todd Christensen Says:
November 22nd, 2011 at 5:52 pm
Plunk, serious. All your family and friends good after the fire. Was this in the south side of the airport? Sorry to hear this stuff, really! Pray to God.
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Hey man, thanks for asking.. I was tending the BBQ, then eating some shrimp.. I’m good, live in the mid town district, would have burned 10,000 houses before mine. Actually, the heroes that are firemen saved MANY peoples homes before the wind died and snow started falling. But thanks for asking bro..
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:53 pm
Sounds like Lovie Smith intends to pound the Raiders.
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:55 pm
There was a quid pro quo between the bears and the broncos regarding orton…But who gives a rats azz..This is a blog about the Raiders…Even if orton is available Sunday for the bears, his presence is meaningless…Stay aggressive on offense and dont over peruse on defense….
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:58 pm
Five guys should be looking at Forte on every snap.
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:58 pm
Albert,
Reports are saying that Orton asked for his release right after it was made known that Cutler was out for the year.
I doubt the Broncos consider that a coincidence. Still, he does have to get past a few other teams before the Bears can claim him. I’m sure his agent has been on the phone and told those teams what his client would prefer to do.
November 22nd, 2011 at 7:02 pm
This is gonna be a coming out game for Mitchell. We was drafted for these very situations.
November 22nd, 2011 at 7:03 pm
Oh, by the way we are STILL waiting to hear about:
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Sully is a douch bag 49er fan.He keeps getting kicked out of dating services because they have to refund to girls money after they go on a date with him. His game is to ask for a BJ before the appetizers are served. He sits up late at night and drinks himself to sleep. So do I know who you are Sully?
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Not a peep from the King of Sockpuppets?
November 22nd, 2011 at 7:03 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:53 pm
Sounds like Lovie Smith intends to pound the Raiders.
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With a backup Q that was basically inactive for 75% of last season and hasn’t taken a snap this season, a pretty good back in Forte and the Raiders run defense in front of you, I don’t see what other options he has.
November 22nd, 2011 at 7:04 pm
Not a peep from the King of Sockpuppets?
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Oh! OOPS! Sorry I’m late, but couldn’t get off the crapper.
November 22nd, 2011 at 7:05 pm
Mr. Raider a Hall of Fame Finalist once again.
Mr. Tim Brown will get in, I expect this to be the year of the WR Andre Reed & Chris Carter all three get in.
Bill Parcells or Ron Wolf get in, but bot both.
November 22nd, 2011 at 7:06 pm
get ready for the comedy..
November 22nd, 2011 at 7:06 pm
PlunkforHOF Says:
November 22nd, 2011 at 7:03 pm
Oh, by the way we are STILL waiting to hear about:
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Sully is a douch bag 49er fan.He keeps getting kicked out of dating services because they have to refund to girls money after they go on a date with him. His game is to ask for a BJ before the appetizers are served. He sits up late at night and drinks himself to sleep. So do I know who you are Sully?
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Not a peep from the King of Sockpuppets?
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Remember she’s a “Madden” Raider, which means she left the team long ago.
November 22nd, 2011 at 7:11 pm
Be careful about calling “she” because Qodrn and Tooz55 are fabulous Raider babes, deserving absolute mambership here.
November 22nd, 2011 at 7:11 pm
* membership… Jeez
November 22nd, 2011 at 7:15 pm
PlunkforHOF Says:
November 22nd, 2011 at 7:11 pm
* membership… Jeez
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Hahahahahahaha!!!!
November 22nd, 2011 at 7:16 pm
Raiders 24 bears 13
November 22nd, 2011 at 7:20 pm
“absolute mambership here”
Thanks for the shout out Plunk !!
November 22nd, 2011 at 7:20 pm
I see where Frank Gore is NOT 100% but due to importance of game “he’s gonna play anyway” says John Clayton.
How important do the Raiders games have to be to get DMAC in?
Also…how many NFL players are EVER 100%?
November 22nd, 2011 at 7:23 pm
BM20… Your Mambership is in good standing..
November 22nd, 2011 at 7:24 pm
Man, I guess my Freud is slipping all over…lol
November 22nd, 2011 at 7:26 pm
8RaiderReign8 Says:
November 22nd, 2011 at 7:06 pm
PlunkforHOF Says:
November 22nd, 2011 at 7:03 pm
Oh, by the way we are STILL waiting to hear about:
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Sully is a douch bag 49er fan.He keeps getting kicked out of dating services because they have to refund to girls money after they go on a date with him. His game is to ask for a BJ before the appetizers are served. He sits up late at night and drinks himself to sleep. So do I know who you are Sully?
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Not a peep from the King of Sockpuppets?
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Remember she’s a “Madden” Raider, which means she left the team long ago.
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I have been off all evening. Not a peep out of him since i posted this? Told you i know who this tool is. He’s just trying to figure out who i am.
November 22nd, 2011 at 7:29 pm
Nah, dude and I’ve been relentless. You still got my phone #?.. Let’s torture this troll..
November 22nd, 2011 at 7:29 pm
Thanks Plunk its my most important mamberhip next to my Gentlemen’s club loyalty card
November 22nd, 2011 at 7:33 pm
So, Sully? Absolute Permanent Paine? Alex 7? Anyone?
November 22nd, 2011 at 7:35 pm
I have been off all evening. Not a peep out of him since i posted this? Told you i know who this tool is. He’s just trying to figure out who i am.
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Dude, You’re Don Manoukian’s Neighbor!
November 22nd, 2011 at 7:38 pm
There will be a couple of hours until we go away, then the Sockpuppet Army will be back as if this never happened.
November 22nd, 2011 at 7:43 pm
Would Love Crokrans next post to say
#The Return of Mcfadden, fully healed and looking foward to the bears game.
November 22nd, 2011 at 7:45 pm
Blackmamba_20 Says:
November 22nd, 2011 at 7:43 pm
Would Love Crokrans next post to say
#The Return of Mcfadden, fully healed and looking foward to the bears game.
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Oh so ditto
November 22nd, 2011 at 7:47 pm
No bust on Michael Bush, who is THE best 2nd RB in the league, but with both we are unstoppable!
November 22nd, 2011 at 7:49 pm
Hey Manouk, just want to make this unavoidable:
Sully is a douch bag 49er fan.He keeps getting kicked out of dating services because they have to refund to girls money after they go on a date with him. His game is to ask for a BJ before the appetizers are served. He sits up late at night and drinks himself to sleep. So do I know who you are Sully?
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c’mon Sully.. make a rebuttal
November 22nd, 2011 at 7:51 pm
Warren Sapp
@QBKILLA
My Bad! I Looked Ole Chaz Up, 8 & 6 Starts His 1st Two Yrs. ONE Start In Last 2yrs, Better Start a Career Before Its Over! #BiggerFishToFry
November 22nd, 2011 at 7:51 pm
bush has been brillant, and the 1-2 combo is second to none.. s
ome of those 20-30 yards he has been ripping would have been TOUCHDOWNS for the Wild Hog RUNDMC
November 22nd, 2011 at 7:52 pm
# Albert Bigelow Paine Super Star Says:
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:15 pm
Raiders should pick up Orton and cut Boller. What if Campbell goes down? Boller at QB would destroy our season.
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Yep, I dont see what we are waiting for.. Our new QB Corps could be Palmer Orton Pryor…or even Palmer Orton Campbell and Pryor if we need him and drop one of the 4 TE’s we have on the Roster..
No Brainer, Get it done Hue…
Would love to Pick up Orton for just Salary….
November 22nd, 2011 at 7:53 pm
Gerard Says:
November 22nd, 2011 at 7:20 pm
I see where Frank Gore is NOT 100% but due to importance of game “he’s gonna play anyway” says John Clayton.
How important do the Raiders games have to be to get DMAC in?
Also…how many NFL players are EVER 100%?
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Hey we keep winning with Mike Bush, keep Dmac on the sidelines til playoff time. Teams are tired and beaten up come playoff time, and having a fresh McFadden would be brutal for opponents.
November 22nd, 2011 at 7:53 pm
#BiggerFishToFry#
Yeah the irony you fat pig !!
November 22nd, 2011 at 7:55 pm
He avoided me today. Has he been on at all?
November 22nd, 2011 at 7:55 pm
morilla Says:
November 22nd, 2011 at 7:51 pm
Warren Sapp
@QBKILLA
My Bad! I Looked Ole Chaz Up, 8 & 6 Starts His 1st Two Yrs. ONE Start In Last 2yrs, Better Start a Career Before Its Over! #BiggerFishToFry
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Warren, bite my crank…………….
November 22nd, 2011 at 7:56 pm
Elway just did a radio interview and said that Tebow is NOT the Bronco’s QB of the future, then he cuts Orton.
What happens when some team finally bursts the Tebow bubble?
You know it’s gonna happen.
November 22nd, 2011 at 7:56 pm
Sounds like someones wet nurse went on strike.
November 22nd, 2011 at 7:57 pm
not since you posted man… If you could silence MR.. you’d be the blog GOD!
November 22nd, 2011 at 7:57 pm
# 8RaiderReign8 Says:
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:14 pm
So pretty much all we need to do is stop Forte (Mitchell Spy), don’t kick it to Hester (Best Punter in League), and look at the QB when he snaps the ball and we win this game?
I Know I’m missing something
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Yes to all of the above, but dont forget: Score a few points against one of the best defenses we have seen all year..These MF’ers are active now son..they aint just gonna sit there and let you pick em Apart, They pull out every trick in the book, especially the one where they all RUN TO THE BALL…
Lovie knows how fast each one runs the 40..he times you in film study, and if you are found to be sandbagging it..GOD HELP YOU…
The Bears have by far the Best Defense we will see all year, including the Playoffs..If they don’t make it, it will be because of Cutlers Injury and the Offense…
NOT THE D..
If we had the Bears Defense, I would say Book your Super Bowl Tickets and Hotel Rooms Gents…
November 22nd, 2011 at 7:57 pm
With only 2.6M left in salary cap, the Raiders will not be entering the orton sweepstakes…..They would pass if 26M were available….
November 22nd, 2011 at 7:59 pm
When Quinn the Eskimo gets here, everybodys gonna jump for joy!
November 22nd, 2011 at 8:00 pm
You know the nights were long and Maryann and the movie star were into it. Since I couldn’t follow the Raiders with out a tv, what else was there to do? Oh every now and then the professor would get a scratchy score off the raido, but nothin beat those two in the sack on those long nights.
November 22nd, 2011 at 8:00 pm
Good call Mike G.. Bears D is 1st rate.. But so is our offense at their best..
November 22nd, 2011 at 8:00 pm
# oldschoolraider Says:
November 22nd, 2011 at 7:56 pm
Elway just did a radio interview and said that Tebow is NOT the Bronco’s QB of the future, then he cuts Orton.
What happens when some team finally bursts the Tebow bubble?
You know it’s gonna happen.
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Jesus H…Give me my High School Varsity Team and we could crack this 10th grad Offense Tebow Runs…My guys have enough pride in the team to maintain their ASSIGNMENTS, not overpursue from the backside, blow up the lead blocker..and make a tackle every now and then..
I can’t believe this FARCE has gone on this long.
November 22nd, 2011 at 8:01 pm
Sapp is the court jester of the NFL. Every time I see him on I have to turn it off. Especially when he is on No Huddle.
November 22nd, 2011 at 8:01 pm
Oh wait, MR is back….
November 22nd, 2011 at 8:02 pm
clap trap sapp. so what else is new.
November 22nd, 2011 at 8:03 pm
Got it all on film too.
November 22nd, 2011 at 8:03 pm
# PlunkforHOF Says:
November 22nd, 2011 at 8:00 pm
Good call Mike G.. Bears D is 1st rate.. But so is our offense at their best..
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If we just had their LB’s and Secondary….WOW would we be unstoppable or what!
November 22nd, 2011 at 8:05 pm
Hey man, if we had OUR 1st stringers still, WE’D be unstoppable!
November 22nd, 2011 at 8:05 pm
im looking for his face book.
November 22nd, 2011 at 8:06 pm
How do ya’ll doin. Lookin like the Raiders gonna be all right with Carson at the wheel. HueJax got it goin my fellow fans.
Lookin forward to turkey day so I can watch my most despised team get beat by my second mosed despised team. Biltmo 21 Cornhole luvin 69ers 12
November 22nd, 2011 at 8:08 pm
Don’t see the love fest for Orton that many on here see. That guy is a career backup, maybe 3rd teamer.
It is also in Soup’s best interest to swallow his pride and re-sign with us next year as the backup. Pryor can be our 3rd string ans Slash guy.
Orton got release for a reason and a damn good one. He is just not that good.
November 22nd, 2011 at 8:08 pm
DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
November 22nd, 2011 at 8:05 pm
im looking for his face book.
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ooooohhhhh buddy… seriously, I, or b@uce or many others will treat you to a game for that info..
November 22nd, 2011 at 8:09 pm
U all know I still got tham damn itch and it aint goin away. I done scratched it raw. That old man of mine brought that damn skank home and I done kicked his nasty ass outta here.
November 22nd, 2011 at 8:11 pm
I really hope Jareds parents steer clear of the comments section.
November 22nd, 2011 at 8:13 pm
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82462296/article/schilens-fed-up-with-sapps-criticism-of-64-raiders?module=HP11_around-the-league
November 22nd, 2011 at 8:19 pm
With Sapp, it all comes down to the fact he absolutely sucked when with Raiders and it was embarrassing for him, so being the ego-centric turd he is, he blames the Raiders’ schemes, Al Davis, and anybody else cuz afterall it couldn’t have possibly been him.
After Al passed he referred to him as “The Great” Al Davis and was very complimentary, but it’s obvious he has an as..i mean axe to grind.
November 22nd, 2011 at 8:21 pm
Chaz needs to get some xtra MUP points for calling out that fat f*ck.
November 22nd, 2011 at 8:24 pm
119.504 Raider Says:
November 22nd, 2011 at 8:08 pm
Don’t see the love fest for Orton that many on here see. That guy is a career backup, maybe 3rd teamer.
It is also in Soup’s best interest to swallow his pride and re-sign with us next year as the backup. Pryor can be our 3rd string ans Slash guy.
Orton got release for a reason and a damn good one. He is just not that good.
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JC is a free agent after this season and u gotta figure there will be some teams who would make him the immediate starter.
-Denver? Makes sense. Divisional foe in need of a decent QB.
-Miami? Unless they’re sold on Matt Moore.
-Cleveland? Who’d you rather have, Colt McCoy or JC?
Those are just a few. How about Seattle? I could see that too.
November 22nd, 2011 at 8:26 pm
Second in command of the sock puppet army reporting for duty. General Sullivan, what are my orders sir?!
November 22nd, 2011 at 8:26 pm
He is such a blow hard. Last year he went on for 10 minutes ripping into them on how the Raiders don’t have gap assignments bla bla bla. Saying it’s all just hit your guy and go wherever.
I really can’t stand it when he opens his mouth.
November 22nd, 2011 at 8:27 pm
Chaz better step it up this week, WRs are looking thin.
November 22nd, 2011 at 8:28 pm
Notice how there is NO national buzz about Hue’s comments about the penalties?
Other coaches say what he said and there’d be stories and commentary about it.
NFL wants to keep his criticism quiet cuz they know people would start saying “Hey, you know what?, Hue Jackson has a good point”? Then…the league would have to compensate and layoff their agenda a bit against the Raiders so as not to lend credence to it.
November 22nd, 2011 at 8:31 pm
I was reading the ESPN AFC west blog yesterday/today and all the other teams fans agree that we get some BS calls. It’s about the only thing agreed about on that blog. Some major 8th grade smack talk over there.
November 22nd, 2011 at 8:37 pm
Raiders 24
Care Bears 10
November 22nd, 2011 at 8:37 pm
# Gerard Says:
November 22nd, 2011 at 8:28 pm
Notice how there is NO national buzz about Hue’s comments about the penalties?
Other coaches say what he said and there’d be stories and commentary about it.
NFL wants to keep his criticism quiet cuz they know people would start saying “Hey, you know what?, Hue Jackson has a good point”? Then…the league would have to compensate and layoff their agenda a bit against the Raiders so as not to lend credence to it.
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Agreed..I have said it a million times..The Raiders haven’t committed more penalties than other teams for the past 10 years..they have just been CALLED for more penalties than other teams for the past 10 years..1 of which cost us a trip to the Superbowl, which we would have surely won..you would think that would be enough for these MF’ers..
Im tired of this Sh!t..
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ALso, I just wrecked SAPP on twitter..dude is such a joke on the NFLN..he is viewed as a sideshow, comedy relief on the air..his fellow studio colleagues are laughing at him, not with him..I would be embarrassed if I were him..the dude got a reprieve, a second chance, a final lease on his career with the Raiders, and all he has done was pi$$ on his own legacy and make attempts to tarnish the greatness of the Raiders for no other reason than the fact that he SUCKED..
Compare and contrast his professionalism with that of Seymour..
Nuff Said..
November 22nd, 2011 at 8:38 pm
sapp is a fat idiot…..a fat lazy idiot, one move upfield and let the rb go right through…
November 22nd, 2011 at 8:43 pm
sapp you cant do the charles barkley bit…you were never good enough….
November 22nd, 2011 at 8:50 pm
If you play xbox Murphy’s handle is – bookbag18
November 22nd, 2011 at 8:58 pm
Sapp is built like Bruce Bruce.
November 22nd, 2011 at 9:16 pm
From PFT…..
Finally, it would be foolish to overlook good, old-fashioned spite. In 2002, Deion Sanders wanted to emerge from retirement and hop onto the silver-and-black bandwagon. So the Redskins released his rights. And former Redskins coach Marty Schottenheimer, the man whose presence in 2001 prompted Sanders to pick retirement over playing, put in a waivers claim on Sanders, short-circuiting his plan.
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Wow. That would have been cool for the 2002 Raiders team. At the same time, I effin hate Marty.
November 22nd, 2011 at 9:27 pm
The Colts have no chance for the playoffs. They will pass on Orton.
November 22nd, 2011 at 9:31 pm
JMO
Tommy Kelly is one of my favourites. He’s played hard for a while, he’s a dominant T. And his parring with King Richard is versatile and dangerous.
As for Warren’s mentorship, Tommy Kelly was his own man, he picked up things and after a couple years, he outgrow the mentor’s voice and became a leader. Tommy Kelly was looking forward, Sapp backwards, that simple. Tommy probably tells it different.
BTW, I have a question. Tommy has stars for tats on both clavicles. And Ro looked to have a similar pattern on himself as well. Anyone know the significance? SEC related?
November 22nd, 2011 at 9:34 pm
That fat tub of sh!t.. sappopatomos… should be locked up for stealing from the raiders.. he straight up sucked.. and now all he does is disrespect us.. .. he was part of the reason the Raiders sucked during that time.. I’m glad schilens called that fat bastard out!! Thank you chaz!!!
November 22nd, 2011 at 9:45 pm
BTW, I really like the Marcel Reece matchup this week. Working on Briggs, Urlacher, and others. Marcel has the strength and versatility against those LB’s.
Do you sign Michael and Marcel to long term deals?
It’s tempting. Cost to be tha boss. tempting tho.
November 22nd, 2011 at 9:52 pm
If NE makes it to the SB, I won’t watch the game. My biggest dream would be for the Raiders to beat those phaggat cheaters in the AFC title game.
Next I would like to see them win the SB.
But on the NFC side, all I care is those tube steak munchin niners lose out in their first round. Don’t give a rats ass about any other team.
November 22nd, 2011 at 9:55 pm
Four football fans climbed a mountain together. Each fan represented a team from the AFC West.
As they climbed, they argued about who loved their team the most.
When they reached the top, the san diego chargers fan said, “This is for the chargers!”
He then ran and jumped off the side of the mountain.
Not wanting to be outdone, the kansas city chiefs fan then said, “This is for the chiefs!”
He jumped off the mountain to his doom as well.
The Oakland Raiders fan, seeing what the other two had done, yelled, “This is for everyone!”
He then pushed the denver broncos fan off the mountain.
November 22nd, 2011 at 9:59 pm
The Bears defense looks beaten up. Urlacher does not look like the Urlacher of four years ago. He’s now 12 years in the league and that has got to take it’s toll. Same thing with Peppers. He looks beaten up out there. Briggs still looks good tho. Hanie is a guy who can run around and make plays. We are not going to have any film on the guy. The Raiders are going to have to contain him, and not let him run around and beat us. Make Forte beat us.
November 22nd, 2011 at 10:02 pm
I believe we saw quite a bit of hanie in our pre seasn game against them last year in Chicago…hope that gives the coaches a little info on him.
Just WIN Baby!
November 22nd, 2011 at 10:19 pm
Four football fans climbed a mountain together. Each fan represented a team from the AFC West.
As they climbed, they argued about who loved their team the most.
When they reached the top, the san diego chargers fan said, “This is for the chargers!”
He then ran and jumped off the side of the mountain.
Not wanting to be outdone, the kansas city chiefs fan then said, “This is for the chiefs!”
He jumped off the mountain to his doom as well.
The Oakland Raiders fan, seeing what the other two had done, yelled, “This is for everyone!”
He then pushed the denver broncos fan off the mountain.
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haha! going on facebook!
November 22nd, 2011 at 10:22 pm
http://network.yardbarker.com/nfl/article_external/backyard/chaz_schilens_on_warren_sapp_everyone_on_the_raiders_thinks_hes_a_joke/8272222?refmod=backyard
Chaaaaaaz! Funnier than Sapp’s consistent cheap shots! Nothing but Raider love! Stay healthy and keep them TD’s raining!
November 22nd, 2011 at 10:43 pm
One reason the league won’t fine Hue for his comments is cuz it would draw more attention to the issue and media might start debating its merits, which would expose them for what they’re doing.
You put a microscope onto this “issue” and they know they can’t stand up to it.
“Let’s just keep it to ourselves Hue, ok?” “We won’t make a big deal out of your comments this time but watch what you say from now on ok?”.
November 22nd, 2011 at 11:08 pm
Interestingly, the Raiders would get Orton before the Bears based upon Oakland’s 6-4 record, one game worse than the 7-3 Bears.
So, in theory, the Raiders could claim Orton as a means of preventing him from being claimed by the Bears. In that case, the Raiders would be liable for the remainder of his hefty salary this season — almost $500,000 per game — and forced to cut a player from their 53-man roster.
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Could Orton step into a new team, say the Bears, and be ready in 3 days to lead a team? I highly doubt it, and the Raiders know if the Bears do that, well, I’d say the Bears playbook gets reduced to about 10% of what it is. Highly doubt any team would do that. Bears will go with their #2 til the new QB has a chance to learn the book. Case in point, Palmers’ first time out there. But we all know now what a couple of weeks can do. But Orton aint no Palmer.
November 22nd, 2011 at 11:19 pm
Denver realize Orton has no future with them. I’m sure Orton and his agent are making a push to get released because 1) Orton would probably love an opportunity to play for the Bears again 2) There are quite a few teams that need a starting QB. Teams that actually still have a shot at the play-off picture. Chicago, Houston, KC (be it very limited). PFT stated something very important, especially to a Raiders fan. If a team who decides to pick up Orton, and loses him to Free Agency at the end of the year, you would get a good supplementary draft pick for Orton. This fact alone should tell the Raiders to put in a waiver claim for Orton. It would prevent him from going to the Bears (this week’s opponent.) It would prevent him going to Houston or KC other teams Oakland are battling for a play-off spot and finally Without a 1st-5 round draft pick, it will help get Oakland another 3rd, or 4th round supplemental draft pick in the 2012 NFL Draft.
November 22nd, 2011 at 11:37 pm
Daz,
Us making a claim woods not help keep him off the chiefs.
November 23rd, 2011 at 3:13 am
Alex7, forgive me, I forgot to omit KC, but my point is, if we do prevent him from going to say Houston, would already be an advantage. I would like to get that extra supplemental draft pick for Orton if we are able to pick him off waviers.
We have had great success with 3r-5th round picks the last few years.
November 23rd, 2011 at 4:00 am
#247…great joke…funnnyyyy …
Raiders…..
Just Win!!!…
November 23rd, 2011 at 4:01 am
If the Colts don’t claim him, Irsay and Polian are surely tanking.
November 23rd, 2011 at 4:15 am
145
If I were the Bears I would be completing dump off passes to Forte out of the backfield all day long. Raiders never seem to stop this play
November 23rd, 2011 at 4:48 am
Correction… Funny joke # 147….
November 23rd, 2011 at 4:52 am
Can’t see Orton playing for The Bears this weekend…not even sure the Bears want him…
And if Orton should somehow start , the Raiders get to beat him twice ….
The diffrence in a Cutler pass and an Orton pass is huge…. Timing with the bear recievers would be off…just don’t see the Bears jumping on this ..
November 23rd, 2011 at 5:18 am
He doesnt know the offense. Martz wasn’t in Chicago when Orton was. There is no way he could play this weekend… See our game against the Chiefs for evidence of why that would be monumentally bad… even IF Hanie plays as poorly as Boller.
November 23rd, 2011 at 5:54 am
FUNNY IF NO TEAM PICKS HIM UP..SOME TEAM WILL THOUGH.
November 23rd, 2011 at 5:56 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Hard Luck on Orton! Twice he lost his job to Tim FN Tebow who isn’t an FN quarterback…and it’s hard to believe that Fox will actually say that he is fine with his QB group (with Quinn) right now…
Well, Orton gets his wish…good Luck to him!
November 23rd, 2011 at 6:13 am
SCHEDULE 4 2MORROW..FOOTBALL-FOOD..FOOTBALL-FOOD-NAP-FOOD FOOTBALL
November 23rd, 2011 at 6:13 am
Sapp was the beneficiary of a great team with great players. All he had to do was get low and plow into the backfield causing the RB’s to change direction or get after the QB.
Look at the defense around him for most of those years, forgive me if I forget a few:
D. Brooks, Quarles, Donny Abraham, R. Barber, Anthony MacFarland, S. Rice, Upshaw(former Raider), J. Lynch, I know there were other real good players I can’t recall as well.
He is the Bill Wennington of the Tony Dungy Bucs!
November 23rd, 2011 at 6:14 am
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
November 23rd, 2011 at 6:13 am
SCHEDULE 4 2MORROW..FOOTBALL-FOOD..FOOTBALL-FOOD-NAP-FOOD FOOTBALL
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Insert Beer several times and that’s my day!
November 23rd, 2011 at 6:15 am
164.Carl Weathers Says:
November 23rd, 2011 at 6:14 am
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
November 23rd, 2011 at 6:13 am
SCHEDULE 4 2MORROW..FOOTBALL-FOOD..FOOTBALL-FOOD-NAP-FOOD FOOTBALL
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Insert Beer several times and that’s my day!
LOL, Mine too!
November 23rd, 2011 at 6:25 am
“FOOD” WAS A VERY INCLUSIVE WORD CARL,COVERING ALL TRIMMINGS / DESERTS & ADULT BEVERAGES..GOOD DAY 2 U AND THE ENTIRE RAIDER NATION.
November 23rd, 2011 at 6:34 am
# KoolKell Says:
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:44 pm
The Raiders need to sign a kicker. Jano, bouncing it up there to Hester is not going to get it.
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Bouncing it up there is the key to that statement. When I used to return kickoffs and punts I always loved it when it bounced up to me because I could have my eyes already looking downfield watching the coverage converge instead of having to look up at the ball and the sky till the last very second..and only being able to HEAR the convergence of the coverage..Big Difference..and all the difference in the world to someone like Hester..
Least Lechler will be giving him Vertigo..a couple of 5 second hang times and he won’t be able to do much, unless we go coffin corner on him all day, which is what I would do and will expect to see.
November 23rd, 2011 at 6:37 am
I hope the chefs pick up Orton and lose all games except their finale vs. the donkeys.
I doubt they do. Haley isn’t that delusional where he thinks they still have hope, is he?
November 23rd, 2011 at 6:38 am
LOL @ #147!!!
November 23rd, 2011 at 6:44 am
HESTER IS A GAME CHANGER.OF COURSE,IF THE RAIDERS R KICKING OFF 2 HIM,THAT MEANNS THEY SCORED.SO,HERE IS 2 HAVING JANO ON THE FIELD A LOT 2MORROW..
November 23rd, 2011 at 6:53 am
Have a great Thanksgiving Nation!
Lions +7
Fish +7
Ravens -3
Cheers!
November 23rd, 2011 at 7:09 am
CODE BLACK cannot and will not be stopped!
November 23rd, 2011 at 7:18 am
Kyle Orton cant help himself yet another football team.
BFD
November 23rd, 2011 at 7:19 am
B, you were here 9 mins ahead of me I knew you were me, got dammit!
November 23rd, 2011 at 7:35 am
Here’s some more AFC West humor for you (modified from an old EPL joke):
Dear Abby,
I am 14 years old and pregnant with my boyfriend, who is 20 years older than me. He’s married with 3 kids. He is a drug dealer, carries a gun and is just out of prison.
But how do I tell my parents he’s a Denver Broncos fan?
November 23rd, 2011 at 7:35 am
Why in the world would Oakland put in a waiver claim on a mediocre QB they have a recent history of beating soundly in order to prevent him from going to an opponent they face in less than a week… and pay him way too much money to do it…. with no cap room…. and already have 4 QBs?
Jer, you’re slippin, buddy.
November 23rd, 2011 at 7:37 am
He must have had some pre-turkey sizzzurp!
November 23rd, 2011 at 7:37 am
This is gonna be a quiet Sunday…only me and my friend, and probably for the Detroit game…
Any word of a sell out?
November 23rd, 2011 at 7:43 am
LA to TheBay Says:
November 23rd, 2011 at 7:35 am
Why in the world would Oakland put in a waiver claim on a mediocre QB they have a recent history of beating soundly in order to prevent him from going to an opponent they face in less than a week… and pay him way too much money to do it…. with no cap room…. and already have 4 QBs?
Jer, you’re slippin, buddy.
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Well said. Idiotic, not thought-out idea.
Orton to the Bears would actually benefit us, if anything, since the Bears play the Broncos later this season.
November 23rd, 2011 at 7:49 am
Orton to the Bears would actually benefit us, if anything, since the Bears play the Broncos later this season.
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Am I the only one that thinks the Broncos can keep winning?
If they play an offensive powerhouse, they’re going to lose but as long as they play teams with mediocre O, they’re in it.
Anybody have their schedule handy?
November 23rd, 2011 at 7:52 am
174.MistaBrown Says:
November 23rd, 2011 at 7:19 am
B, you were here 9 mins ahead of me I knew you were me, got dammit!
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LMAO and the accuser still cant explain or justify his claims lol
November 23rd, 2011 at 7:54 am
Oh yes lil cuzin and the Mizzou Tigers wiped Cal’s ass with sandpiper last night by damn near 40!
As of last night the all time leader in FT pct at Mizzou is now little cousin…yep just put yaself in record books! I love it!
November 23rd, 2011 at 7:57 am
Lots os posters crying for DMAC to come back. Meanwhile Bush will take over the team rushing lead this week as a backup. One fumble in last 370 carries.
I think DMAC is great when healthy, but I would rather have him come back the last game of the season, so he can stay healthy for that game and 3 playoff games.
November 23rd, 2011 at 7:59 am
Dungver remaining 6 @SD @MIN CHI NE @BUF KC
I think the donks could easily pull 3-3 out of that hat, maybe 4-2 if they beat SD this weekend. We NEED for SD to win this weekend imo
November 23rd, 2011 at 7:59 am
Stabler76 Says:
November 23rd, 2011 at 7:57 am
Lots os posters crying for DMAC to come back. Meanwhile Bush will take over the team rushing lead this week as a backup. One fumble in last 370 carries.
I think DMAC is great when healthy, but I would rather have him come back the last game of the season, so he can stay healthy for that game and 3 playoff games.
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DMC makes the offense so dynamic, though.
I can’t say we’re going to just leisurely stroll right into the playoffs. We could really use Darren for Detroit and GB. Also, I can;t say those last two division games (or even Miami) are automatics.
I’ll take DMAC as soon as he’s 100% healthy.
November 23rd, 2011 at 8:00 am
I want the STAR of our offense back on the field as soon as he is ready. If that is Sunday then so be it!
November 23rd, 2011 at 8:00 am
805.aig-raiders Says:
November 22nd, 2011 at 3:59 pm
go to december 5th,2010 at 5:48 pm….go see what AIG wrote lol
Method To My Madness Says:
November 22nd, 2011 at 3:39 pm
228.aig-raiders Says:
December 5th, 2010 at 5:48 pm
B@uce,
Shut the hell up will ya. You guys are the ones whining. Schytt. There is no more QB controversy. It is JC’s team. WTF do you have such a bad time handling the effin truth. He had some good plays and some not so good plays. Just leave it as is. Move on already. Are you guys gonna start this JC was perfect and walked on water today? Why dont you just give credit where it is due. The D dominated and ground game dominated. Rushing was over 200 yds compared to 100 yds passing. Quite obvious to me.
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What’s wrong with that. I spoke the effin truth. JC was 10 for 16 and 117 yds passing. Our D dominated and our ground game had over 200 yds rushing. JC missed a wide open Murphy down the sideline when he threw it out of bounds. There was no safety help over the top and JC admitted after teh game that it was his fault on that play. Do you want me to start saying JC carried the team that day?
777.aig-raiders Says:
November 22nd, 2011 at 3:23 pm
you were condescending then too…but no matter…shall discuss this later
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Wrong.
I posted to Mistic that JC had a good game against SEA.
I posted on here that JC played a fantastic game in SD. Didnt throw a whole lot but wisely used his feet.
Yes I dont like the guy but I have acknowledged it the few times he delivered.
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Way too easy my Memphis Beat friend……….now look at your post from last year or just go to that week…we can pull up all your posts after 2nd SD game…you were condescending after the game and quite upset that JC led another win that your guy Grad couldnt…just look at your post…fantastic is not a word I would use to describe your synopsis on JC that day….nice try buddy…we still cool but you gotta check ya self becuz you were trying to dog the guy. You cant try to sneak in shots at the guy and pretend you did otherwise. May work on others but the B@uce is on his schit like bad bowel moves
November 23rd, 2011 at 8:01 am
183.Stabler76 Says:
November 23rd, 2011 at 7:57 am
Lots os posters crying for DMAC to come back. Meanwhile Bush will take over the team rushing lead this week as a backup. One fumble in last 370 carries.
I think DMAC is great when healthy, but I would rather have him come back the last game of the season, so he can stay healthy for that game and 3 playoff games.
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I can dig that stabler…but maybe detroit…i dunno cuz its my bday weekend and i want a 80 yard TD run from the guy lol
November 23rd, 2011 at 8:03 am
Jake Plummer and Tim Tebow actually have a fair amount in common, if you think about it.
Both played quarterback for the Denver Broncos (Plummer from 2003-06), and both won games in ways that were not always described as “pretty.”
But Plummer seems to have run out of patience with Tebow’s prayer routine and wishes that the Broncos’ current QB would tone it down a bit.
“Tebow, regardless of whether I wish he’d just shut up after a game and go hug his teammates, I think he’s a winner and I respect that about him,” Plummer told XTRA Sports 910 in Phoenix on Monday.
“I think that when he accepts the fact that we know that he loves Jesus Christ then I think I’ll like him a little better.”
November 23rd, 2011 at 8:03 am
Dungver remaining 6 @SD @MIN CHI NE @BUF KC
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That’s a pretty tough schedule.
SD can hang 30 on em. If they play offense like they’re supposed to, Denver’s toast.
MN, as we know, is no cake walk. Hopefully Peterson is back for that game. Chicago could go either way, I think. NE will smash them. Buffalo and KC (revenge game)should be pretty close games, IMO.
That could be 3-3 or 2-4. 4-2 if they catch fire.
Either way, as long as we stay at least a game ahead of everyone, it won’t matter.
November 23rd, 2011 at 8:03 am
184.bcz24 Says:
November 23rd, 2011 at 7:59 am
Dungver remaining 6 @SD @MIN CHI NE @BUF KC
I think the donks could easily pull 3-3 out of that hat, maybe 4-2 if they beat SD this weekend. We NEED for SD to win this weekend imo
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SD better man up and not get punked by Denver! I know there will be alot of mountain mule fans there at the game…as usual SD gets their stadium overtaken by opposing team’s fans…..pitiful…and you think they not gonna move? lol
November 23rd, 2011 at 8:08 am
Tim Brown Hall of Fame class of 2012.
Good lucky Timmy.
November 23rd, 2011 at 8:09 am
189.DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
November 23rd, 2011 at 8:03 am
Jake Plummer and Tim Tebow actually have a fair amount in common, if you think about it.
Both played quarterback for the Denver Broncos (Plummer from 2003-06), and both won games in ways that were not always described as “pretty.”
But Plummer seems to have run out of patience with Tebow’s prayer routine and wishes that the Broncos’ current QB would tone it down a bit.
“Tebow, regardless of whether I wish he’d just shut up after a game and go hug his teammates, I think he’s a winner and I respect that about him,” Plummer told XTRA Sports 910 in Phoenix on Monday.
“I think that when he accepts the fact that we know that he loves Jesus Christ then I think I’ll like him a little better.”
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LMAO…awesome
November 23rd, 2011 at 8:09 am
192.neilb Says:
November 23rd, 2011 at 8:08 am
Tim Brown Hall of Fame class of 2012.
Good lucky Timmy.
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My favorite player of all time….he gets in…im going to Canton!
November 23rd, 2011 at 8:12 am
190.LA to TheBay Says:
November 23rd, 2011 at 8:03 am
Dungver remaining 6 @SD @MIN CHI NE @BUF KC
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That’s a pretty tough schedule.
SD can hang 30 on em. If they play offense like they’re supposed to, Denver’s toast.
MN, as we know, is no cake walk. Hopefully Peterson is back for that game. Chicago could go either way, I think. NE will smash them. Buffalo and KC (revenge game)should be pretty close games, IMO.
That could be 3-3 or 2-4. 4-2 if they catch fire.
Either way, as long as we stay at least a game ahead of everyone, it won’t matter.
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MistaBrown told me a few weeks ago…as long as we handle our biz who cares what the other teams do…..again Mista was right…I know you hate hearing that but the guy knows his stuff
November 23rd, 2011 at 8:13 am
Timmy needs to come back as a coach. He needs to get a ring as a Raider even if it is as a coach.
November 23rd, 2011 at 8:13 am
Obviously.
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Method To My Madness Says:
November 23rd, 2011 at 8:12 am
MistaBrown told me a few weeks ago…as long as we handle our biz who cares what the other teams do…..again Mista was right…I know you hate hearing that but the guy knows his stuff
November 23rd, 2011 at 8:16 am
196.DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
November 23rd, 2011 at 8:13 am
Timmy needs to come back as a coach. He needs to get a ring as a Raider even if it is as a coach.
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Best post of 2011 IMHO
November 23rd, 2011 at 8:16 am
Mike Golic this morning “The way Carson Palmer is playing right now the Raiders at the qb position aren’t better than the Bears with Caleb Hanie”
November 23rd, 2011 at 8:16 am
197.MistaBrown Says:
November 23rd, 2011 at 8:13 am
Obviously.
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Method To My Madness Says:
November 23rd, 2011 at 8:12 am
MistaBrown told me a few weeks ago…as long as we handle our biz who cares what the other teams do…..again Mista was right…I know you hate hearing that but the guy knows his stuff
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Management
November 23rd, 2011 at 8:18 am
199.inonewordraider Says:
November 23rd, 2011 at 8:16 am
Mike Golic this morning “The way Carson Palmer is playing right now the Raiders at the qb position aren’t better than the Bears with Caleb Hanie”
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Those punks are always saying some dumb schit
November 23rd, 2011 at 8:19 am
Inone…..we just gonna have to beat the schit outta everyone and win the title….maybe…naw they still will hate
November 23rd, 2011 at 8:21 am
199.inonewordraider Says:
November 23rd, 2011 at 8:16 am
Mike Golic this morning “The way Carson Palmer is playing right now the Raiders at the qb position aren’t better than the Bears with Caleb Hanie”
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I didnt hear that. I wonder what Palmers stats look like compared to the rest of the league over the last couple weeks. I would guess he is better then half the league if not more.
November 23rd, 2011 at 8:22 am
Was flipping thru channels this morning and wondered ‘why is Mike Tomlin on Ellen with that f@cked up haircut?’…. Turns out it was Will-i-Am…lol
November 23rd, 2011 at 8:23 am
we can pull up all your posts after 2nd SD game…
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B, this whole thing started with me saying I complimented JC when he played well @ SD and vs Sea last year. Why are you bringing in the SD game in Oak. I am not saying I dont dog JC. I dogged him when he sucked. I complimented him when he played well. Let’s stick to that will ya? BTW, dude completed 10 passes @SD last year. that’s only 8 more than Tim Tebow vs KC this year. I think I am being very generous.
November 23rd, 2011 at 8:27 am
I think da bears are going to give us all we can handle – our offense really needs to come alive if we are going to win this. Da bears D is awesome and we have a BIG step on this game. We need to beat teams like this if we think we are playoff contenders. I don’t think we’ve done it all year.(with maybe the exception of the Texans.) We beat da bears bloody 34 to 3- then I will believe!
November 23rd, 2011 at 8:27 am
Believe me I would like to see DMAC asap also. Fat and strong. I like his toughness at the end of long runs, knocking tacklers down, instead of tiptoeing out of bounds.
Who would think that a guy who hits like that would be sidelined by foot injuries, not upper body injuries.
November 23rd, 2011 at 8:27 am
*** Fast and strong
November 23rd, 2011 at 8:29 am
Mike Golic this morning “The way Carson Palmer is playing right now the Raiders at the qb position aren’t better than the Bears with Caleb Hanie”
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Screw Golic. Dude is a huge Raider hater. Actually the best guy at analyzing QB’s and games is the Greg Cossell at NFL film. After the Broncos game, he told everyone Palmer looked fine on film.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/22/pft-live-greg-cosell-patriots-and-chargers-talk/
November 23rd, 2011 at 8:30 am
Mike Golic this morning “The way Carson Palmer is playing right now the Raiders at the qb position aren’t better than the Bears with Caleb Hanie”
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So Caleb is playing at a top 10 Pro Bowl level? And hasn’t even made one start? Impressive.
November 23rd, 2011 at 8:32 am
I wish Tebow would stop with the praying too. But why does Plummer even have a platform to criticize other quarterbacks, much less anybody in the world? That white trash mustache guy sucked. I’m pretty sure he had as many if not more INTs than TDs in his career.
November 23rd, 2011 at 8:33 am
RaiderSean Says:
November 22nd, 2011 at 9:45 pm
BTW, I really like the Marcel Reece matchup this week. Working on Briggs, Urlacher, and others. Marcel has the strength and versatility against those LB’s.
Do you sign Michael and Marcel to long term deals?
It’s tempting. Cost to be tha boss. tempting tho.
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gotta do whatever you can to bring em both back. marcel know one else like him Bush you need because DMAC hasn’t proven durable and our team is flat out scary when both are healthy. you want to face our physical line all day with DMAC running the rock then try to bring down Bush in the 4th? Also don’t see Taiwan as a carry the load when DMACs inevitably out I see him effective as a Darren Sproles type great for when Pryors the qb (CP a hold the ball let the play develop qb)
November 23rd, 2011 at 8:34 am
I say save DMAC until 100%.. we’ll need him to go deep in the playoffs.. As long as we can keep winning without him, why not??
I hate to say it but I’m pulling for the Dolts to beat the Donks this weekend… Also (even though its a sin for me)I have to pull for the Queelers too…
November 23rd, 2011 at 8:35 am
naw they still will hate
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wouldn’t have it any other way, stay underestimating us too
November 23rd, 2011 at 8:36 am
Mike Golic this morning “The way Carson Palmer is playing right now the Raiders at the qb position aren’t better than the Bears with Caleb Hanie”
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I have no problem with Palmer being used as a game manager. It is not about Carson Palmer. He is just another tough player an opponent has to deal with when they play the Raiders.
November 23rd, 2011 at 8:38 am
I didnt hear that. I wonder what Palmers stats look like compared to the rest of the league over the last couple weeks
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yeah the other mike disagreed Golics reasoning was “he threw what 6 picks in the first two games” I mean these guys just watch the Patriots and Giants games I guess
November 23rd, 2011 at 8:39 am
I’m prob in the minority here but I think Marcel can replace Bush if need be. He’s faster and just as big. Would love to have Bush back but I dont think we can afford Bush.
November 23rd, 2011 at 8:39 am
Breaking news —————–
Mike Golic confesses gay love for Mike Greenberg. Espn to air gay lover special tonight after Sportscenter!
November 23rd, 2011 at 8:41 am
I have no problem with Palmer being used as a game manager.
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Agreed. We win when we ask him to be a game manager and will lose if we ask him to air it out. We just have a better game manager in CP than JC. CP will hit our WR’s on those few instances where we pass. We are a much better team when we run more.
November 23rd, 2011 at 8:42 am
Aig-Raiders Says:
November 23rd, 2011 at 8:39 am
I’m prob in the minority here but I think Marcel can replace Bush if need be. He’s faster and just as big. Would love to have Bush back but I dont think we can afford Bush.
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Bush has good vision . Don’t know that Reece would be used as a tailback except in emergencies.
November 23rd, 2011 at 8:45 am
Bush has good vision . Don’t know that Reece would be used as a tailback except in emergencies.
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Agreed 100% on Bush’s vision. It’s no coincidence that he has had multiple long runs since he has been with the Raiders. However,we saw Reece ran a few times last week and he didnt do too bad.
November 23rd, 2011 at 8:51 am
Agreed 100% on Bush’s vision. It’s no coincidence that he has had multiple long runs since he has been with the Raiders. However,we saw Reece ran a few times last week and he didnt do too bad.
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That was a great look from Hue and Reece did well with his opportunity. Nice weapon.
November 23rd, 2011 at 8:54 am
205.aig-raiders Says:
November 23rd, 2011 at 8:23 am
we can pull up all your posts after 2nd SD game…
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B, this whole thing started with me saying I complimented JC when he played well @ SD and vs Sea last year. Why are you bringing in the SD game in Oak. I am not saying I dont dog JC. I dogged him when he sucked. I complimented him when he played well. Let’s stick to that will ya? BTW, dude completed 10 passes @SD last year. that’s only 8 more than Tim Tebow vs KC this year. I think I am being very generous.
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I dont know man…seems like you were dogging the guy but not biggie…JC time is up and yes if CP doesnt turn it over he is better than JC for what we need to do as far as winning in AFC playoffs…i still feel we would be 6-3 or 7-2 with JC if he didnt get hurt cuz team loves playing for the guy and he does some very good things out there
November 23rd, 2011 at 8:54 am
Matt Kemp 2011 NL:
RBI’s 1st
HR’s 1st
Runs 1st
BA 3rd
stolen bases 4th
center field golden glove
82 Dodger wins compared to Brewers 96 with 2 starting pitchers, closer, shortstop, 2b and 3b out most the season
no Prince Fielder to protect him
no MVP award
=
Robbery
November 23rd, 2011 at 8:55 am
I dont think most LBs in this league can cover Reece. Reece can catch in traffic and he’s already putting his body on the line playing FB. If we can’t keep Bush, then move Reece there and let Tonga play FB fulltime. I’m a huge fan of Reece as you can tell.
November 23rd, 2011 at 8:55 am
I hope Reece is up to the challenge this week and is prepared to block Urlacher and Briggs…he gonna have to if we wanna control that clock
November 23rd, 2011 at 8:56 am
brb
November 23rd, 2011 at 8:57 am
inonewordraider Says:
November 23rd, 2011 at 8:54 am
Matt Kemp 2011 NL:
RBI’s 1st
HR’s 1st
Runs 1st
BA 3rd
stolen bases 4th
center field golden glove
82 Dodger wins compared to Brewers 96 with 2 starting pitchers, closer, shortstop, 2b and 3b out most the season
no Prince Fielder to protect him
no MVP award
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Robbery
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Big time.
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:00 am
I am unable to bring myself to speculate on the Raiders being in the playoffs, they have so much work to do. They have already exceeded my expectations in many ways and I will accept any outcome the future holds.
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:00 am
with ford and dhb likely out, i’m expecting a big week from chaz.
raiders 30
bears 20
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:00 am
B,
There in lies the problem. In my opinion, the JC fan club have a tendency to SUPERSIZE anything positive JC does. Most of us skeptics felt like he was riding the team’s coattail depending on how well ST, D or ground game plays that game. His finest game as a Raider is at Buff this year. We can agree to disagree. JC will get his shot at another team next year and he can prove he belongs in this league.
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:02 am
They have already exceeded my expectations in many ways and I will accept any outcome the future holds.
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Same here. But I think the future is definitely looking up.
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:02 am
231.aig-raiders Says:
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:00 am
B,
There in lies the problem. In my opinion, the JC fan club have a tendency to SUPERSIZE anything positive JC does. Most of us skeptics felt like he was riding the team’s coattail depending on how well ST, D or ground game plays that game. His finest game as a Raider is at Buff this year. We can agree to disagree. JC will get his shot at another team next year and he can prove he belongs in this league.
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only one position get W’s and L’s attached to resume….they touch the ball basically every snap…the problem is jc haters dismiss that fact and its the truth
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:05 am
houshRob… dmoore was also hobbling at the end of Minnesota game… we have a lot of hurt widereceivers…. I hope chaz brings it… puts it in fat sapps face…
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:05 am
AIG…you say he rides coattails but they actually riding his cuz thats who they looking to in the huddle…thats who they say is their LEADER…before he went down
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:05 am
only one position get W’s and L’s attached to resume
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That’s what people have a tendency to do. They want to simplify things but a knowledgeble football fan would know better. I doubt you’re goign to tell me Alex Smith is only 2nd best to Rodgers this year. Or Trent Dilfer is better than Jim Kelly because he won a SB and Trent didnt.
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:06 am
But JC is long gone unless CP gets hurt late in season or playoffs…just bad when yall bash that guy…that guy was vital in our turnaround and if you deny that it shows you have an agenda
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:08 am
236.aig-raiders Says:
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:05 am
only one position get W’s and L’s attached to resume
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That’s what people have a tendency to do. They want to simplify things but a knowledgeble football fan would know better. I doubt you’re goign to tell me Alex Smith is only 2nd best to Rodgers this year. Or Trent Dilfer is better than Jim Kelly because he won a SB and Trent didnt.
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lol as i said jc haters will dismiss it…you cant run from facts…alex smith has played well this season and this is fact….in a SB game i’d take dilfer over kelly no doubt…who won? kelly had 4 shots and got blown out
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:08 am
thats who they say is their LEADER
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Of course, they all say that. They have to. They even made Jawalrus sound like he was leading them too at one point. Did you hear how Bush gushes about CP3’s leadership style? It was almost a borderline dig at JC.
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:09 am
and knowledgeable football angle is bullschit…cuz you know i trump many on here in that arena so dont try and pull some sneak punch in one me bruh…you not slick
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:09 am
I would love the season to end with us winning the Super Bowl…giving JC a ring as a parting gift! But…one game at a time!
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:10 am
So you should take Alex Smith over JC then right? He has a better record than JC before JC was hurt. Even if JC was healthy, you predicted JC would lose at least 2 to 3 games. Are you ready to pick Alex Smith over JC?
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:10 am
I thought that Palmers play would have put the qb talk to bed…. apparently not…. I haven’t seen those fools mist eyes and debo here for awhile… and that’s good because it means Palmer is playing well… jc is a good qb. . He will be a starter somewhere next yr. .. he’s good enough to be a starter in this league. .
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:11 am
Hmmmm….Smith over Campbell here in Oakland…ok, thought about it…
No…there was a few games that Jc had to throw because our run game was stalling…Smith more than likely wouldn’t have made any of those throws!
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:13 am
239.aig-raiders Says:
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:08 am
thats who they say is their LEADER
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Of course, they all say that. They have to. They even made Jawalrus sound like he was leading them too at one point. Did you hear how Bush gushes about CP3’s leadership style? It was almost a borderline dig at JC.
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Palmer is an assertive westcoast guy while jc is a laid back country bumpkin…think about it…you live in the south
it was something that was needed cuz JC is gone…i promise if you asked any teammates how they feel about jc on the field they all back him and if they heard your comments they’d dismiss you fast
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:14 am
We all have flaws my friend. Your weakness is JC. JC failed to deliver in the 2 min drill against Jax last year and it happened the year before when he was a Skins playing in Detroit. A supposed LMurphy was on here and you had no problem getting on his case for lack of efforts. If JC was here right now, I doubt you would ask him why you dumped off knowing the game would end rather than airing it out to the endzone when it’s only a 50 yd throw from both games.
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:14 am
Let me ask you guys this…
If and that is a big IF (and most likely not) JC does come back next year to compete for the starting job (I know wah we gave up, but bare with me)…Would JC become a distraction to CP or vise versa, or do you think he will settle in a roll of a back up if CP wins the job outright?…again, or vice versa…
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:15 am
242.aig-raiders Says:
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:10 am
So you should take Alex Smith over JC then right? He has a better record than JC before JC was hurt. Even if JC was healthy, you predicted JC would lose at least 2 to 3 games. Are you ready to pick Alex Smith over JC?
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smith has beat jc before….and is playing out of his mind and is healthy…you tell me
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:15 am
I would take jc over Smith. .. that defense in the 49 ers haven’t even allowed a rushing t.d. this season…I hope Baltimore kills them tomorrow. .
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:16 am
246.aig-raiders Says:
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:14 am
We all have flaws my friend. Your weakness is JC. JC failed to deliver in the 2 min drill against Jax last year and it happened the year before when he was a Skins playing in Detroit. A supposed LMurphy was on here and you had no problem getting on his case for lack of efforts. If JC was here right now, I doubt you would ask him why you dumped off knowing the game would end rather than airing it out to the endzone when it’s only a 50 yd throw from both games.
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no id ask jc why the hell cant you complete a deep pass to save your life
how did jc fare on comeback vs SD and KC? next lol
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:17 am
smith and jc play in two different offense tho AIG…you comparing apples to oranges here…wco vs vertical…..think bout it
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:18 am
smith in our offense wouldnt work
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:19 am
and your view is obviously tainted cuz all summer you said JC will fail
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:21 am
Method To My Madness Says:
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:17 am
smith and jc play in two different offense tho AIG…you comparing apples to oranges here…wco vs vertical…..think bout it
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I thought it was all about the W and L for the QB position.
Excuses…excuses…excuses…
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:22 am
yes AIG…you were predicting failure and would hardly post on here until he got injured…yes dude i saw that stuff…you have an agenda
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:23 am
All I know is.. Palmer is a top 10 NFL qb. .. he’s a excellent fit for the team… and now he’s the team leader and playing well.. all of this with no preseason at all.. as good as he is now.. he will be much better next season… just needs to stay healthy…
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:24 am
254.aig-raiders Says:
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:21 am
Method To My Madness Says:
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:17 am
smith and jc play in two different offense tho AIG…you comparing apples to oranges here…wco vs vertical…..think bout it
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I thought it was all about the W and L for the QB position.
Excuses…excuses…excuses…
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no actually its fact…better just in nfl season smith gonna win….but would smith be better in oakland than jc? no fking way
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:24 am
Method To My Madness Says:
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:19 am
and your view is obviously tainted cuz all summer you said JC will fail
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Just so you know. I was a JC supporter when we traded for him. He lost me after the Tenn game. My friends who are Cowgirl friends told me exactly what his problems were and their criticisms were very similar to JFB’s points. Nothing changed with JC IMO. He still had a great game here and there in losing efforts like his performance as a Skins vs the 2009 Saints or vs Buff this year. Most of the time he snoozes. We barely got our first down with 2 mins left in the 1st half against Tex. Jano saved the day. DMAC saved the day against the Jets. Orton saved the day vs the Donkeys.
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:26 am
Palmer a top 10 qb when he doesnt turn the ball over
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:26 am
JC will get the opportunity to LEGITIMATELY compete for a starting spot in a few different spots next year, he wont resign with us. He will never get a fair shake unless Palmer is nicked.I say best of luck to him, and I truly thank him for being part of the solution here, instead of part of the problem like so many other FAs that made their way through town
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:27 am
234.ghostraiders Says:
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:05 am
houshRob… dmoore was also hobbling at the end of Minnesota game… we have a lot of hurt widereceivers…. I hope chaz brings it… puts it in fat sapps face…
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Chaz catches his 3rd TD of the day….runs to the sideline pulls out a sharpie and writes Sapps name on the ball then rubs his nuts with it in front of the camera.
Chaz suspended for the season.
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:29 am
Method To My Madness Says:
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:22 am
yes AIG…you were predicting failure and would hardly post on here until he got injured…yes dude i saw that stuff…you have an agenda
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Wrong. I was MAD AS HELL at Al Davis this offseason. We let Nnamdi and Zmiller go for nothing. I finally checked out of his cult. So the loss to Buff didnt bother me as much as some of you. But I got back on board when Al Davis died. I felt guilty for being mad at him. The Texan game was when I emotionally invested myself back to the Raiders.
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:30 am
258.aig-raiders Says:
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:24 am
Method To My Madness Says:
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:19 am
and your view is obviously tainted cuz all summer you said JC will fail
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Just so you know. I was a JC supporter when we traded for him. He lost me after the Tenn game. My friends who are Cowgirl friends told me exactly what his problems were and their criticisms were very similar to JFB’s points. Nothing changed with JC IMO. He still had a great game here and there in losing efforts like his performance as a Skins vs the 2009 Saints or vs Buff this year. Most of the time he snoozes. We barely got our first down with 2 mins left in the 1st half against Tex. Jano saved the day. DMAC saved the day against the Jets. Orton saved the day vs the Donkeys.
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now here goes the excuses…just so you know…JC didnt fail and if someone loses you after the first start? carson did what immediately? oh you wont throw him in the fire? 8 turnovers kc den and sd? remember that?
jc td pass is what saved day vs texans…..jc not turning ball over vs jets saved day…..raiders team saved day vs donkeys so youre full of schit
plus im acing you cuz your posts proved you were a liar…listen to how to going ot extra lengths to bash jc lmao
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:30 am
Method.. why don’t you say what you wanna say… .. I think Palmer is a top 10 qb… peoples feelings are still hurt and that’s fine.. but anyone who says were a better team with jc as our qb is foolish… name 10 qbs better than Palmer. .. I doubt there is..
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:31 am
AIG you already lied lmao…you said you complimented jc and used fantastic…well i showed your posts that you were lying…sorry dude you not smart enough
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:31 am
I truly thank him for being part of the solution here, instead of part of the problem like so many other FAs that made their way through town
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I can live with this. Good point.
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:32 am
Method To My Madness Says:
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:31 am
AIG you already lied lmao…you said you complimented jc and used fantastic…well i showed your posts that you were lying…sorry dude you not smart enough
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WTF…Are you serious? I think I was being consistent. Saying someone was fantastic is paying a compliment no?
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:32 am
Don.. Lmao. .funny
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:32 am
262.aig-raiders Says:
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:29 am
Method To My Madness Says:
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:22 am
yes AIG…you were predicting failure and would hardly post on here until he got injured…yes dude i saw that stuff…you have an agenda
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Wrong. I was MAD AS HELL at Al Davis this offseason. We let Nnamdi and Zmiller go for nothing. I finally checked out of his cult. So the loss to Buff didnt bother me as much as some of you. But I got back on board when Al Davis died. I felt guilty for being mad at him. The Texan game was when I emotionally invested myself back to the Raiders.
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whoa…done with ya…you’re a weak punk….dont talk to me anymore…you are chump btch for that…check out period or get in a car crash u phaggot
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:34 am
AIG shut up btch…ur no better than MR with that al davis schit……fk u phaggot
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:34 am
youre a consistent btch…and ill tell u so to your face this weekend
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:34 am
I think Alex Smith would thrive behind our Oline. Our Oline opens up huge holes for running backs and generally keeps the QB upright.
I think he would do a fine job of handing the ball off and hitting the deep ball of play action.
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:36 am
whoa…done with ya…you’re a weak punk….dont talk to me anymore…you are chump btch for that…check out period or get in a car crash u phaggot
270.Method To My Madness Says:
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:34 am
AIG shut up btch…ur no better than MR with that al davis schit……fk u phaggot
271.Method To My Madness Says:
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:34 am
youre a consistent btch…and ill tell u so to your face this weekend
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LOL!
I knew this was headed there.
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:37 am
you gonna get back when al dies? youre a phaggot
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:38 am
272.J Hill Says:
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:34 am
I think Alex Smith would thrive behind our Oline. Our Oline opens up huge holes for running backs and generally keeps the QB upright.
I think he would do a fine job of handing the ball off and hitting the deep ball of play action.
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he still misses wide open down the field
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:38 am
You guys still debating Jason Campbell?
Wow.
JC is a pro, bridged a gap and will be appreciated for it.
Next.
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:39 am
jhill mfkas are weak…he checked out…punk aint down for real…cuz your butt buddies nnamdi and miller left? see how they doing? fk outta here u jcat
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:39 am
Smith with our system?
Doubt it. We’re not a WCO. We need a guy to push the ball downfield.
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:39 am
im outro…this guy has set me all the way off
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:40 am
A lot of Hay has been made about not being able to score in the fourth quarter. I think it’s because JC new more of the offense then CP. Opposing teams often change their defenses during halftime and you have to know your offense in order to compensate, but CP doesn’t know the offense as well as JC and that is why there is a lack of production in the second half. Once CP learns the entire offense we will be able to switch up the game plan in the second half and we will be more effective on offense.
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:40 am
Good Morning Raider Nation!!
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:41 am
jc td pass is what saved day vs texans…..jc not turning ball over vs jets saved day…..raiders team saved day vs donkeys so youre full of schit
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Jano made 3 FG’s over 50 yds in one game. I dont know if that has been repeated this year or any recent years yet by any other kicker and I think that our D kept the most explosive offense in check. But hey it’s all about JC right?
DMAC destroyed the Jets. Here is a quote from AP…”Darren McFadden ran past, around and through the Jets unlike any back has since Rex Ryan turned New York into one of the NFL’s biggest bullies after arriving two years ago.McFadden rushed for 171 yards and two touchdowns and turned a broken halfback option play into a 27-yard run that set up the go-ahead score in the Oakland Raiders’ 34-24 victory over the Jets on Sunday.”
but hey it’s ALL about JC not turning the ball over right?
Orton dropped a fumble that was goign to be a sure TD to a wide open WR to take the lead late in the game. But hey JC had 105 yds passing that day. Tebow like stats. JC saved the day.
You see how I was pointing out you were SUPERSIZING everything JC did. Face it, you get weak at the knees when JC’s name is mentioned.
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:42 am
But I got back on board when Al Davis died. I felt guilty for being mad at him.
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Calm down young B!
The guy said he checked back in because he felt guilty for being mad at Davis.
PLENTY of Raider fans were upset with Al Davis.
Played gold with a guy who was still nad at Davis for hte Marcus Allen benching. Didn’t know the details, just thought Al was being egotistical.
In the last week or so, I have run into at least 5 people who said they are back cheering for the Raiders since Al is no longer here.
A lot of So Cal fans are STILL hot with Al for taking the team outta LA.
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:42 am
8RaiderReign8
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Somebody correct me if I’m wrong, but I think the only game JC was lighting it up in the 4th Q was against that whack Buffalo D.
We’ve struggled to put up points in the 4th all year.
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:43 am
he still misses wide open down the field
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I have to say the only games I’ve seen Smith play is the ones he’s played against us, lol.
Don’t watch the 9rs or any other team that much.
He’s looked good against our D, lol.
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:45 am
270.Method To My Madness Says:
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:34 am
AIG shut up btch…ur no better than MR with that al davis schit……fk u phaggot
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One minute I’m still good in your book. The next minute I’m a phaggot. Jeez, who’s the B here? Oh and I think you called me a coward before.
Honestly, I always felt funny seeing people calling other cowards while hiding behind a screen name. I might have been guilty of this too.
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:45 am
278.LA to TheBay Says:
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:39 am
Smith with our system?
Doubt it. We’re not a WCO. We need a guy to push the ball downfield.
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Smith threw a beautiful downfield pass to Crabtree against us last year.
Our WRs would be open moreso than they are in SF.
I think he would be at least 50% on those deep throws we all talk about.
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:48 am
NEW!~ 11-23-11: Palmer no better than Hanie?
We’ll see what Space Ghost has to say about that…
http://www.raidernationstation.com/raider_huddle
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:54 am
only one position get W’s and L’s attached to resume….they touch the ball basically every snap…the problem is jc haters dismiss that fact and its the truth
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End the JC debate. He was solid in his time here but we would NEVER contend for a title with the crazy, off the wall stupid cr@p he would do. Learn to slid, dont look like a deer in the headlights, and be able to take a hit from time to time and he could latch on elsewhere and have a good career. Its over here. Palmer and Terrell Pryor (TP for those that love the backup QB’s that have proven nothing…)
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:54 am
The 4 th quarter issues of not scoring is on hue Jackson. . He gets very conservative in the fourth quarter.. he needs to get over that… but not having Dmac might have somthig to do with that.. unfortunately now that Dmac is back. We lose our wrs…
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:58 am
Jc might end up in Minnesota. .. ponder stinks..I’m glad he was firing interceptions but that team would be a lot better with jc at the helm… I’m glad that fool mcnabb wanted no part of us.he’s horrible. .
November 23rd, 2011 at 10:03 am
Sign a kicker!!!!!
November 23rd, 2011 at 10:04 am
Man…JLoft…that is gonna be the scariest part of the game Sunday. Kick returns…Punt returns…
November 23rd, 2011 at 10:10 am
Method To My Madness Says:
November 23rd, 2011 at 8:12 am
MistaBrown told me a few weeks ago…as long as we handle our biz who cares what the other teams do…..again Mista was right…I know you hate hearing that but the guy knows his stuff
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Huh? Of course if we win it doesn’t matter what other teams do. Halle-freaking-leullah!! And Jamista probably didn’t even know that, some 5 year old kid who felt sorry for him told him. And Jamista still thought that kid was talking about the Cleveland Browns.
November 23rd, 2011 at 10:10 am
I was pleased with the offensive game plan the last two weeks very balanced and with a run first attitude I would have to say Hue has checked his pride and put the Raiders in a good position to win football games. The Raiders proved that they can run the ball against a Top 10 Run Defense but will need dominate the line of scrimmage for 4 quarters to be successful going forward.
November 23rd, 2011 at 10:15 am
I have read a bunch of Caleb hanie articles … kid was recruited outta Dallas TX area as a LB / TE mostly.
He a good athlete … nobody in the league has Cutlers arm tho …. and that group on WRs look for the big play in the Martz offense … Knox & Hester are threats and Roy williams is well … roy williams.
Forte cant get goign early like adrian peterson.
November 23rd, 2011 at 10:17 am
We stop Forte and dont turn the ball over we win. We handled biz before against Hester so we should do the same now.
November 23rd, 2011 at 10:21 am
Statisically this is a very even matchup.
All the statistics tho are with Cutler at the helm & they also have to travel to OAK.
Briggs, Peppers & Urlacher will be the hardest test for our OL so far.
November 23rd, 2011 at 10:27 am
fCK the homo niners and fck Alex Smith . He can’t hide behind harballs nut sack much longer. Soon the REAL Alex will show his face again !
November 23rd, 2011 at 10:27 am
CorkOnTheNFL Steve Corkran
Wide receiver Denarius Moore walks out to practice with right foot in protective boot. Not sure what’s up with him.
2 minutes ago
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wtf is going on!!!???? were screwed.
Chaz and murphy TJ looking to be starters
DHB, ford, moore, all out of practice
November 23rd, 2011 at 10:28 am
Does anyone think Seabass will make a kick off past the 35 yrd line on Sun ? Field posistion is a must!
November 23rd, 2011 at 10:29 am
our team is banged up:
seymour, houston, ford, moore, dhb, run dmc, taiwan all not practicing.
how is moore hurt?! whats up with the foot injuries!?
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh
November 23rd, 2011 at 10:33 am
Briggs, Peppers & Urlacher will be the hardest test for our OL so far.
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Really looking forward to seeing how the o-line does. The Broncos and Chiefs front seven were playing well when we played them although the O was one dimensional at that time. As has been stated the O at this time presents problems for any D.
November 23rd, 2011 at 10:33 am
With all the injuries going on , it’s ironic Chaz is still on the field …
November 23rd, 2011 at 10:35 am
chaz is our healthiest WR? whhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa?
November 23rd, 2011 at 10:36 am
protective foot boots are contagious on this team
November 23rd, 2011 at 10:36 am
300.raiderinparadise Says:
November 23rd, 2011 at 10:27 am
CorkOnTheNFL Steve Corkran
Wide receiver Denarius Moore walks out to practice with right foot in protective boot. Not sure what’s up with him.
2 minutes ago
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wtf is going on!!!???? were screwed.
Chaz and murphy TJ looking to be starters
DHB, ford, moore, all out of practice
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They are going to have to start sharing boots pretty soon. We will know when they are out when they start coming out to pratice in ski boots. Maybe we should just start having them practice in ski boots. Protective and work like ankle weights.
November 23rd, 2011 at 10:36 am
Satele practicing 3 days after concusion. this guy is tough. always injured, always pushig himself.
November 23rd, 2011 at 10:40 am
Weather in Oakland this Sunday :
Cloudy and a balmy 68….
November 23rd, 2011 at 10:40 am
good grief…we should’ve cut one of the rookie tight ends and brought in Hagan…we’re extra thin at Wideout….Will the real Louis Murphy please stand up this week?! Keeping my fingers crossed on Chaz making it out of this next game healthy…..
November 23rd, 2011 at 10:40 am
J Hill Says:
November 23rd, 2011 at 9:43 am
he still misses wide open down the field
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Something he has in common with JC. For a guy with above average arm strength, JC was incredibly inept at going deep.
That was just one of his deficiencies.
It’s pretty remarkable that after 3 weeks CP is able to go no huddle and call plays at the line of scrimmage quite effectively. The contrast with JC’s lazy audibles, wasting timeouts and delay of game penalties is striking.
JC gave the Raids much needed professionalism and some stability at the QB postion after the JR debacle. In that sense, he certainly wasn’t part of the problem – but IMO he also clearly wasn’t going to be the long term solution either. Would have been interesting to see how he would have fared if he hadn’t gotten injured.
I’m not a big CP fan. But I do believe he’s better than JC.
Even with the dearth of quality NFL QB’s, it wouldn’t surprise me at all if Campbell is unable to find a starting gig elsewhere in the NFL next year.
November 23rd, 2011 at 10:41 am
I can’t remember a year when we’ve had so many injuries. This is freakin ridiculous man!
WTF????????
November 23rd, 2011 at 10:43 am
I remember thinking not too longago that we were loaded with WR’s… Yikes!
November 23rd, 2011 at 10:45 am
I guess its a goo dthing we kept all those WR’s… but i agree with the post above…we should have cut one of the TE’s and kept Hagan!
November 23rd, 2011 at 10:46 am
Were gonna need to use TE Kevin Boss even more this weekend….when he’s not pass blocking ..
November 23rd, 2011 at 10:48 am
315.fingers Says:
November 23rd, 2011 at 10:46 am
Were gonna need to use TE Kevin Boss even more this weekend….when he’s not pass blocking ..
i hope Mr V has another exceptional game against the pass rush…this time Julius Peppers!
November 23rd, 2011 at 10:48 am
Checking out our preseason game against Bears from last year. No Hanie. Forte was beasting though.
We need to keep him and Knox in check.
Wimbley was blowing up their LT time and again, though. Bring heat.
November 23rd, 2011 at 10:48 am
Hagan signed tuesday with the Bills
November 23rd, 2011 at 10:50 am
Veldheers a monster….think he’ll be fine… What a player for us ..
November 23rd, 2011 at 10:51 am
Seems someone has finally stand up to that joke of WARREN SAPP
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/23/chaz-schilens-takes-aim-at-warren-sapp/
November 23rd, 2011 at 10:51 am
We don’t run 4 wides and reese can line up outside. It would be nice to have Dmac for this one if only to give Chicago something else to think about.
November 23rd, 2011 at 10:51 am
All we need is for Bush to get injured and virtually every one of our top skill players will be injured or not playing.
Losing DMAC, Ford, DHB, and Moore essentially wipes out the speed factor that makes this offense explosive.
Going to have to be more of a ‘grind’ attack until these guys return.
November 23rd, 2011 at 10:52 am
do we call …. gulp … NICK MILLER !!!!! lmao
November 23rd, 2011 at 10:53 am
Yep, we have a bunch of fast guys with bad Wheels..
November 23rd, 2011 at 10:55 am
Somebody did mention that Moore was limping around a bit after the game last Sunday.
That’s a big blow.
81, 18, 84 next men up.
Dmac, please get healthy.
Go to Israel and get that super secret rehab that Walker got a few years back.
November 23rd, 2011 at 10:55 am
“grind attack” ? well what happens if bush gets hurt????? hand it off to tonga, reece and rock? were screwed.
November 23rd, 2011 at 12:34 pm
I disagree. The Raiders are trying to make the playoffs and Boller as the back up won’t cut it. Neither will Pryor yet. And at the end of the season, he can be traded for a dearly need draft pick if Pryor is coming along.
November 23rd, 2011 at 5:59 pm
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November 23rd, 2011 at 8:37 pm
Chiefs block Bears from getting Orton, so we’ll see him again up in Arrowhead. Doubt that Palko lasts as starter.
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