Comments on: Pre-practice notes http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2011/11/25/pre-practice-notes/ A look inside the world of the highly classified Oakland Raiders from the writers of Bay Area News Group Thu, 23 May 2013 22:00:56 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: country312 http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2011/11/25/pre-practice-notes/comment-page-2/#comment-741253 country312 Mon, 28 Nov 2011 02:23:45 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/?p=17955#comment-741253 way to just win baby. Go Raiders. way to just win baby. Go Raiders.

]]> By: riraider http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2011/11/25/pre-practice-notes/comment-page-2/#comment-739140 riraider Sat, 26 Nov 2011 19:27:44 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/?p=17955#comment-739140 Nobody & I mean nobody is above the team.. Nobody & I mean nobody is above the team..

]]> By: riraider http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2011/11/25/pre-practice-notes/comment-page-2/#comment-739137 riraider Sat, 26 Nov 2011 19:27:18 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/?p=17955#comment-739137 You don't have to take the good with the bad?????..You are a complete MORON. You don’t have to take the good with the bad?????..You are a complete MORON.

]]> By: riraider http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2011/11/25/pre-practice-notes/comment-page-2/#comment-739133 riraider Sat, 26 Nov 2011 19:21:54 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/?p=17955#comment-739133 I hope they can get a 2nd rnd 2012 pick for his sorry A_ss I hope they can get a 2nd rnd 2012 pick for his sorry A_ss

]]> By: riraider http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2011/11/25/pre-practice-notes/comment-page-2/#comment-739129 riraider Sat, 26 Nov 2011 19:20:14 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/?p=17955#comment-739129 Need to trade Dmac..He is a waste............... Need to trade Dmac..He is a waste……………

]]> By: raidermarty http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2011/11/25/pre-practice-notes/comment-page-2/#comment-738950 raidermarty Sat, 26 Nov 2011 13:23:55 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/?p=17955#comment-738950 There are alot of good running backs in the league but only a couple of game changers. MCFADDEN is a game changer so you just got to take the bad with the good. When he finally gets healthy he'll be back to dominate> RAIDERS!!!!! There are alot of good running backs in the league but only a couple of game changers. MCFADDEN is a game changer so you just got to take the bad with the good. When he finally gets healthy he’ll be back to dominate>
RAIDERS!!!!!

]]> By: RaiderSam http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2011/11/25/pre-practice-notes/comment-page-2/#comment-738604 RaiderSam Sat, 26 Nov 2011 00:54:39 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/?p=17955#comment-738604 Seymour Bush Says: November 25th, 2011 at 1:21 pm rob_raider Says: November 25th, 2011 at 12:11 pm trade dmc? stupidity defined. ======================================= Someone was bringing up the buy low sell high mentality with regards to Dmac. In other words his value may never be higher than it is right now. Problem with that logic is we paid an overall number 4 for him. Is anyone going to give us HIGHER than that? Like, Indy is going to give us their overall number one, Peyton Manning, Dwight Freeny AND next years lst rounder?? Not likely. Bill Polian is running their drafts not Mike Ditka. One thing about McFadden I see none of you seem to mention is how he brings a mean physicality out there that our team sorely needs. McFadden is not above getting into scraps with the opponents, he is a devastating blocker and a hard physical runner. None of that shows up on a stat sheet. When you are trying to build a physical mean team, how much is that worth? ==================== Its worth a lot - but when that physicality is mixed with a durability issue, it negates DMC's value to the team. You can't be built like Fred Jackson, but run like Adrian Peterson. He has to realize his value and protect himself. His value would never be higher, and if we send him to an NFC team, say the Dallas Cowboys, what value do we get back? How about to Jacksonville? what value of packages could we get (maybe...Maurice Jones-Drew straight up? or a package of picks -) what could we get in the draft...could a number of players that have to learn the system, start and contribute right away replace a guy who is a touchdown every time he plays? Its a risk-reward situation, and we don't have a GM in place yet. We have to figure that part first. Seymour Bush Says:
November 25th, 2011 at 1:21 pm
rob_raider Says:
November 25th, 2011 at 12:11 pm

trade dmc? stupidity defined.
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Someone was bringing up the buy low sell high mentality with regards to Dmac. In other words his value may never be higher than it is right now. Problem with that logic is we paid an overall number 4 for him. Is anyone going to give us HIGHER than that? Like, Indy is going to give us their overall number one, Peyton Manning, Dwight Freeny AND next years lst rounder?? Not likely. Bill Polian is running their drafts not Mike Ditka.

One thing about McFadden I see none of you seem to mention is how he brings a mean physicality out there that our team sorely needs. McFadden is not above getting into scraps with the opponents, he is a devastating blocker and a hard physical runner. None of that shows up on a stat sheet. When you are trying to build a physical mean team, how much is that worth?

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Its worth a lot – but when that physicality is mixed with a durability issue, it negates DMC’s value to the team. You can’t be built like Fred Jackson, but run like Adrian Peterson. He has to realize his value and protect himself. His value would never be higher, and if we send him to an NFC team, say the Dallas Cowboys, what value do we get back? How about to Jacksonville? what value of packages could we get (maybe…Maurice Jones-Drew straight up? or a package of picks -) what could we get in the draft…could a number of players that have to learn the system, start and contribute right away replace a guy who is a touchdown every time he plays?

Its a risk-reward situation, and we don’t have a GM in place yet. We have to figure that part first.

]]> By: RaidaNation02 http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2011/11/25/pre-practice-notes/comment-page-2/#comment-738556 RaidaNation02 Fri, 25 Nov 2011 23:27:17 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/?p=17955#comment-738556 I understand the reasoning for Hue not letting the press know whats wrong with his players but Now It has me going crazy about Dmac... I understand the reasoning for Hue not letting the press know whats wrong with his players but Now It has me going crazy about Dmac…

]]> By: RaiderSean http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2011/11/25/pre-practice-notes/comment-page-2/#comment-738551 RaiderSean Fri, 25 Nov 2011 23:18:27 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/?p=17955#comment-738551 Mathieu is only a sophmore, I don't think he's coming out this year. And if he is good for him, he's gonna have a long career. Mathieu is only a sophmore, I don’t think he’s coming out this year. And if he is good for him, he’s gonna have a long career.

]]> By: baumraiders http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2011/11/25/pre-practice-notes/comment-page-2/#comment-738549 baumraiders Fri, 25 Nov 2011 23:15:34 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/?p=17955#comment-738549 Hum..... James Harrison was Undrafted Tommy Kelly Undrafted Arian Foster Undrafted Kurt Warner was undrafted Wes Welker undrafted Antonio Gates was undrafted Tom Brady was a 6th round pick So you can find some gems at lower rounds or not being drafted at all. So Tom Brady has 4 superbowl Wins, and Carson Palmer was the 1st overall pick and has 0 superbowls. Both have been injured. Should we get rid of him because you can always find replacements at lower round in the draft (just as an example, you can do this for every position). Hum…..
James Harrison was Undrafted
Tommy Kelly Undrafted
Arian Foster Undrafted
Kurt Warner was undrafted
Wes Welker undrafted
Antonio Gates was undrafted
Tom Brady was a 6th round pick
So you can find some gems at lower rounds or not being drafted at all.
So Tom Brady has 4 superbowl Wins, and Carson Palmer was the 1st overall pick and has 0 superbowls. Both have been injured. Should we get rid of him because you can always find replacements at lower round in the draft (just as an example, you can do this for every position).

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