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Post-practice notes from Wednesday (11-30-11)

Spent the better part of the day working on the Chester McGlockton obituary for the paper. Thanks for your patience and understanding, and may God bless McGlockton, his wife Zina and two daughters.
With that said, here are some tidbits from today’s proceedings, the first full practice for the Raiders in preparation for their game against the Miami Dolphins on Sunday.

INJURY LIST NOT SHRINKING
Kicker Sebastian Janikowski is back on the injury report, joining the list of usual occupants. Coach Hue Jackson doesn’t seem too concerned about Janikowski’s left hamstring.
Why should he? Janikowski is fresh from a game in which he set a franchise record by converting all six of his field-goal attempts against the Chicago Bears in a 25-20 victory and being named AFC Special Teams Player of the Week.
“Maybe he kicked too many field goals,” Jackson said. “You never know. He did an excellent job. Hopefully we’ll get him back out here soon. He’ll be fine. I told you, I’m always going to be cautious with these players. We got some big games down the stretch here.”
Add wide receiver Denarius Moore and defensive end Jarvis Moss to the long list of players who missed practice but weren’t mentioned in an earlier post.
Moore was in full uniform at practice this morning. However, he was deemed not healthy enough to participate, Jackson said. Moss still is recovering from a hamstring injury he suffered against the Minnesota Vikings on Nov. 20.
For the record, it’s an ankle that is botherin Moore and not his foot, as Jackson initially reported. Hey, cut Jackson some slack trying to keep track of all the injuries and their corresponding body parts.
Moore said he was on the field Wednesday on a fact-finding misson.
“It was just to really see where I was standing at, as far as this week,” Moore said. “And so we’re still taking it day by day, see how it’s going to go.”
T.J. Houshmandzadeh fielded punts in Moore’s absence.

LOCKER ROOM SCENE
Curious what it was like in the Raiders locker room after they beat the Bears? Here’s a snippet from Jackson singlin out Janikowski and Shane Lechler for their heroics.
Jackson: “We all know they’re the highest-paid kickers in football, But listen to me, listen to me. Truth be told, guys, here’s the deal: the last time this place was 7-4, these two men were here (Janikowski says under his breath, “That’s a long time).” These two men were here and these two guys, today, helped this team get to where (it) needed to be.”
Lechler: “It’s a good deal to be 7-4. Everybody’s happy, but guess what — we’ve got a lot of football to play, men. We’ve got a whole lot of football to play. Some tough games coming up. Let’s keep on the grind. I’m telling you, we’ve got keep on the grind. If you want to keep this feeling, keep grinding…”
Quarterback Carson Palmer said he can’t recall a punter being asked to address the team after a victory. Then again, he added, Lechler is unlike any other punter in the league.
“No, there might not be another one in the league,” Palmer said. “He’s definitely the best punter in the league, but as far as a teammate, a leader, a veteran, a professional, he does everything right. He says the right things. He doesn’t act like a kicker. I wouldn’t put him in that mold. He is just a great teammate.”
Veteran defensive tackle Richard Seymour played for a New England Patriots team that held kicker Adam Vinatieri in high regard.
Seymour said he and his Raiders teammates feel the same way toward Lechler and Janikowski, in large part because they walk the walk.
“Well, obviously, with him being the best punter in the league, that helps,” Seymour said. “Guys listen to guys who get it done. And he’s a combination of both, where he’s a veteran leader and also he’s a great player.”

FOURTH-QUARTER BLUES FELT BY ALL
Palmer wasn’t even with the Raiders when their five-game scoring drought in the fourth quarter started. Yet, he was just as aware of the the ignominious streak.
“I was definitely aware of it,” Palmer said of a streak that ended when running back Michael Bush scored a 3-yard touchdown late in the fourth quarter against the Bears. “Especially in that game, we needed that score. But we need more, and we need to find ways to generate more points in the red zone, but also just in the fourth quarter in general.
“At this point in the year, especially with some of the games we have coming up, we have to generate more points in the second half.”

JOHNSON MIGHT PLAY SUNDAY
Cornerback Chris Johnson showed progress by returning to practice last week and being active against the Bears. However, he failed to set foot on the field once the game started.
“He just wanted me to put the pads back on, just in case,” Johnson said of coach Jackson. “I was the emergency guy last week. I just went along with what coach wanted me to do.”
This week?
“I’m getting back in the mix this week,” Johnson said.

CLOSE GAMES A BENEFIT FOR RAIDERS
None of the Raiders seven victories has been by more than 10 points and the difference in those games is only 43 points.
Jackson said the short-term pain of battling through so many tension-filled games will benefit the Raiders in the long run.
“It’s very important because, as you go down the stretch here these games are going to be close, going to be tough,” Jackson said. “We all wish we had those blowouts where you’re sitting in the fourth quarter smiling. But that’s not the way it is in the NFL. Hopefully we’ll have one here soon at some point in time.”
The other benefit is that close games are the kind of affairs that build confidence and character. Jackson said. Maybe so, he added, but it still would be nice to be a part of a laugher.
“Nothing is going to be given to us,” Jackson said. “We understand that. We know it’s going to be tough. This team kind of likes it that way. I don’t like it that way. They’re OK with it as long as it (leads to) wins and wins.”

BUSH HOLDING UP WELL
Bush has averaged 28 carries the past three games as he absorbs the workload in Darren McFadden’s absence. You would be hard pressed to know Bush has been used so much, though.
“He’s been awesome,” Jackson said. “I’ve been around guys that carry the ball like that and then they come to Wednesday practice and they can’t move. Regardless of whether you gave them victory Monday off or not, because physically, it’s tough. He hasn’t batted an eye.”

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  • Roch R

    Best Trade of the season…..

    Aaron Curry for a 7th round draft pick!!

  • hwnrdr

    For some reason, this week is flying by for me, especially since this is the first 5 day work week I’ve had to do since October…but yeah, I am itching for Sunday!
    Roch, I agree (post 201)

  • http://mistabrownisalogcabinrepublican.com RaidingTexas

    Who cares which team the “experts” pick? How many of them go undefeated in their picks? It’s a waste of brain activity to worry about it.

    What others think of the Raiders should have no effect on their ability to win or lose. In the end, all that matters is who actually wins the game, not who was picked to win.

  • http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders r8eray

    Jason Hill (WR) was released by the Jaguars this morning, he ran a 4.32 at the combine (Al speed) is 6′-1″ and is only 26 years old.
    We should kick the tires on him to see what he’s got….we’re a little thin on that position.

  • marios

    McClain is not as bad at coverage as most people believe. He ranks 2nd among LBs for most pass deflected with 12. First being the guy across the bay, Patrick Willis with 13. Brian Urlacher is 3rd with 10.

  • marios
  • Hagar the Horrible

    Bcz24 …post 169:

    My bad…you’re so right…oops!

    But, I’m right about “rushing three linemen” in the last 3 minutes of the game is going to get us killed.
    If the Bears recover the on-side kick, and they almost did, they would have been in a position to possibly score on us. Especially using a prevent defense that only prevents you from winning. Chuck B. needs to stop that shzt and Hue’s responsible for allowing it.

  • Method To My Madness

    196.hwnrdr Says:
    December 1st, 2011 at 7:47 am
    The time is now! We have to go to 8-4…
    But, rewatching the Bears game last night…there were a few throws that almost got intercepted! When the Dolphins went on that 3-0 streak, and even in the Dallas game, the DBs were the ones that improved! Palmer better be thinking…just saying…

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    Agree 100pct

  • hwnrdr

    Good Morning B!

  • bcz24

    If the Bears recover the on-side kick, and they almost did, they would have been in a position to possibly score on us. Especially using a prevent defense that only prevents you from winning. Chuck B. needs to stop that shzt and Hue’s responsible for allowing it.
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    …and IF we come up with 1 stop in the second half of the bills game we are 8-3 and tied for the conferance best record. If’s are meaningless brother.

  • http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders r8eray

    Curry finding his groove in Oakland
    December, 1, 2011
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    By Bill Williamson
    While much of the post-trade attention in Oakland has been focused on how quarterback Carson Palmer is adjusting to being a Raider, the addition of linebacker Aaron Curry shouldn’t be overlooked.

    Curry has elevated his game since being traded to the Raiders from Seattle last month. Curry was a major disappointment after the Seahawks took him No. 4 overall in 2009. He was inconsistent, didn’t show good instincts and underachieved as a Seahawk. However, Curry has been a solid, hard-nosed player for Oakland.

    He made several big plays in the Raiders’ victory over the Bears on Sunday. Curry has 27 tackles in six games with Oakland; he had 22 tackles in five games with Seattle this season.

    The best part of the deal for Oakland is it didn’t cost it much at all. Seattle took on much of Curry’s remaining salary. All Oakland owes Seattle is a 2012 seventh-round choice and a conditional 2013 fifth-rounder.

    I checked in with Matt Williamson of Scouts Inc. to get his thoughts on Curry. Williamson said Curry has been productive for Oakland, especially at the price tag. Here are some of Williamson’s thoughts: “The key is that Oakland didn’t give much up for him. So this is all gravy. He has fit in well and seems to be getting better. … I wouldn’t say that he looks like a linebacker that was a top-five should look. But I do think he is probably playing the best football of his career and is now a legitimate starting linebacker.”

    ;)

  • Hagar the Horrible

    We were in the “Red-Zone” too many times in that Bears game and because of Seabass we were able to win the game. Three points is better than a zippo.

    We need to at least convert 50% of those red-zones into touchdowns, minimum. Final score against the Bears should have been 37 to 13 as I’m not giving the Bears credit for their last score against us. That’s strictly on Bresnahan and his 3 man rush.

    If those 3 pointers were all touchdowns, we win 49 to 13. In that senario, we’re untouchable and even Green Bay would be running for cover.

  • hwnrdr

    Although I do believe one of those red zone trips maybe could have been a TD, if the clock read 8 seconds instead of 5…maybe! We have the best kicking duo in the league right now and has been for awhile…but I agree on one aspect…no matter how could Jano has become, I rather only see him on extra points!

  • Hagar the Horrible

    Bcz24…Ya, can’t argue with you about “if’s”…but I can make my point that many situations don’t have to happen again if proper changes are made, especially that 3 man rush. You can’t count the number of games we lost over the pass years when we loss leads and loss
    the games as well because of the prevent garbage.

  • YoungAmerican

    We’ll have another chance to see exactly how far this Oakland team has come this weekend. This is yet another game that Raider teams in previous years would find a way to lose.

  • hwnrdr

    I agree! We should NEVER go into prevent!

  • YoungAmerican

    Routt is developing a habit of having really solid games in terms of completion percentage and YPA, but still allowing one easy TD per game. Frustrating.

  • http://mistabrownisalogcabinrepublican.com RaidingTexas

    Hagar The Horrible Says:

    In that senario, we’re untouchable and even Green Bay would be running for cover.

    ————————

    I think Green Bay looks at the game film and sees a Raiders team that scored seven times against a very good Bears defense.

    Green Bay wins on the strength of its offense, not its defense. They are terrible at tackling. There’s some good video out there proving it.

    There’s every reason to believe that game could be a shootout, especially if we get DMac and the WRs back.

  • John David Booty

    Roch R Says:
    December 1st, 2011 at 7:55 am

    Best Trade of the season…..

    Aaron Curry for a 7th round draft pick!!
    ________________________________________________
    Thanks Coach Pete!

  • bcz24

    Routt is an outstanding CB, but for some reason he struggles mightily on the quick slant. Look at his TDs this year and see how many of them are on the quick slant. I bet 80%

  • http://repealitnow.org MistaBrown

    Obviously
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    Roch R Says:
    December 1st, 2011 at 7:55 am

    Best Trade of the season…..

    Aaron Curry for a 7th round draft pick!!

  • Just Fire Baby

    Earlier in the game Bresh blitzed and we gave up an easy TD on 3rd and long.

    Later in the game, he rushes 3 and get burnt deep to Knox on a 3rd and long.

    Seems to me the coach is trying different things AND THE PLAYERS ARE FAILING IN BOTH instances.

    Not on the coach, IMO, that is on the guys on the field. Plus that deep ball to Knox was a helluva toss, that a sub 4.4 guy (Knox) snagged with one-hand.

    Not sure how you defense that.

  • John David Booty

    YoungAmerican Says:
    December 1st, 2011 at 8:50 am

    Routt is developing a habit of having really solid games in terms of completion percentage and YPA, but still allowing one easy TD per game. Frustrating.
    _____________________________________________________
    Agree, but it seems like most of the blown TDs are due to assignment issues, which he needs to recognize better, but he’ll get better, as he already has improved over the season. But in terms of just one on one coverage, Stan is having a great year. I love watching how hard it is for WRs to get separation against him at the line of scrimmage.

  • Hagar the Horrible

    Our run defense is better than it looks statistically.

    It’s a few long runs that we let get away from us, just like the 80 yard pass bomb in the closing minutes
    makes our pass defense look less effective. Ya, I know, long runs and passes are part of the game. But, on the other hand some of those are so unnecessary.

  • Just Fire Baby

    There was an article in SI last week about how overrated defense rankings are, due to them being based off yards per game.

    I think 5 of the last 7 super Bowl winning teams had a team defense ranked 23rd or worst. Saints were 29th, Colts 31st, Patriots in the mid 20′s.

    It broke down that the Packers defense gives up 35% more yards in the 4th quarter than any other quarter, when teams are playing catchup and racking up meaningless yards.

    They lead the NFL in INT’s, turnovers, top 10 in ypc allowed, middle of the pack in points per game, and yet are the “worst” ranked defense due to ypg rankings.

  • ghostraiders

    If we can win this Sunday… beat the dolphins… we will be in position to end the season at 11-5… we need to take care of business vs Miami. .. we will be playing with house money in gb. … too bad we didn’t play Miami 6 weeks ago when they were in the suck for luck sweepstakes.

  • Hagar the Horrible

    post 222…don’t rush 3 men.

  • silverback

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    December 1st, 2011 at 8:57 am
    Earlier in the game Bresh blitzed and we gave up an easy TD on 3rd and long.

    Later in the game, he rushes 3 and get burnt deep to Knox on a 3rd and long.

    Seems to me the coach is trying different things AND THE PLAYERS ARE FAILING IN BOTH instances.

    Not on the coach, IMO, that is on the guys on the field. Plus that deep ball to Knox was a helluva toss, that a sub 4.4 guy (Knox) snagged with one-hand.

    Not sure how you defense that.
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    First TD was a result of Bears running game. Late TD was a fluke.

  • YoungAmerican

    To be fair to Routt, “one easy TD per game” is overstated. He’s given up 5 TDs this season while his completion percentage and YPA is lower than Revis, Nnamdi, and Woodson.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Reading the article now.

    Best stat to look for Super Bowl champion is point differential.

    “15 of the last 20 Super Bowl champions, have either finished 1st or 2nd in point differential”.

    Last year, the Pack were ranked #2, this year #1.

  • hwnrdr

    That 81 yard catch and run by Knox was a helluva play by Knox and Caleb…that TD after, Branch was a step late!

  • Just Fire Baby

    I think we could have rushed 5 guys, and if Henie can still get the ball there and Knox catching it with one hand, it wouldn’t have mattered.

    Instead of blaming the coach, how about the guys who were deep in coverage and still let him get over the top on him?

    What’s their excuse?

  • http://repealitnow.org MistaBrown

    Bottom line is all the Nnamdi knuckleheads that thought our def was going to be sorry without him have been silenced. You dont even hear from those chumps anymore, in fact I cant even remember who they are.
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    YoungAmerican Says:
    December 1st, 2011 at 9:05 am

    To be fair to Routt, “one easy TD per game” is overstated. He’s given up 5 TDs this season while his completion percentage and YPA is lower than Revis, Nnamdi, and Woodson.

  • silverback

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    December 1st, 2011 at 9:01 am
    There was an article in SI last week about how overrated defense rankings are, due to them being based off yards per game.

    I think 5 of the last 7 super Bowl winning teams had a team defense ranked 23rd or worst. Saints were 29th, Colts 31st, Patriots in the mid 20’s.

    It broke down that the Packers defense gives up 35% more yards in the 4th quarter than any other quarter, when teams are playing catchup and racking up meaningless yards.

    They lead the NFL in INT’s, turnovers, top 10 in ypc allowed, middle of the pack in points per game, and yet are the “worst” ranked defense due to ypg rankings.
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    Passing yards can be deceptive in garbage time. Rushing yards don’t lie.

  • hwnrdr

    We still have a lot of work to do…I heard CJ is healthy enough to play this week…not sure if that matters or not, but does he rotate in and out with Sheppard?

  • John David Booty

    Routt is by far one of our best players and one of the most under rated players in the league, altogether. Stats are nice, but I actually ENJOY watching Stan match up against WRs, and how aggressive he is in coverage, which does result in the occasional PI, but hey, I’ll take it. When a WR beats Routt in zone, Im not that surprised. He used to be horible in zone, so at least hes greatly improved. But for a WR to beat him in straight up man to man coverage is always impressive, cause Stan is one of the best out there. Just watch the top CBs and watch how they cover, their aggression, their tendencies. Routts coverage skills, and speed, is just good football to watch.

  • http://repealitnow.org MistaBrown

    Hwn did you notice B looks a little bit like Routt?

  • autopalm77

    It’s easy to criticize the coach on the sideline…Watch how far Routt is off of Knox on the slant play when he is man on man with both Branch and Giordano blazing from each end of the line of scrimmage…The receivers didn’t cross as no screening was necessary…He should have at the very least been jamming at the LOS….He is 8 yards off of him when the ball is snapped…There is zero help deep and the entire middle of the field is wide open….TD

  • hwnrdr

    237.MistaBrown Says:
    December 1st, 2011 at 9:14 am
    Hwn did you notice B looks a little bit like Routt?

    LOL, no I haven’t really paid attention…

  • joetoronto

    Yards per carry is what should be used, yards per game means nothing.

    Unfortunately, we suck bad in yards per carry.

  • bcz24

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    December 1st, 2011 at 9:01 am
    There was an article in SI last week about how overrated defense rankings are, due to them being based off yards per game.
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    JFB check out Gridironrank.com MUCH better offensive and defensive rankings.

  • hwnrdr

    Question: Since Boyd’s been brought back, has he been playing?

  • Just Fire Baby

    Routt is a damn good DB.

    Even top-flight, HOF level CB’s give up TD’s and yards.

    Nobody is pitching shut-outs out there, week-to-week.

    He should be a Pro Bowler this season, IMO.

  • silverback

    Autopalm77 Says:
    December 1st, 2011 at 9:15 am
    It’s easy to criticize the coach on the sideline…Watch how far Routt is off of Knox on the slant play when he is man on man with both Branch and Giordano blazing from each end of the line of scrimmage…The receivers didn’t cross as no screening was necessary…He should have at the very least been jamming at the LOS….He is 8 yards off of him when the ball is snapped…There is zero help deep and the entire middle of the field is wide open….TD
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    Bears had the right play called or saw the pre-snap, guessed correctly and checked into it.

  • J Hill

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    December 1st, 2011 at 8:57 am

    Earlier in the game Bresh blitzed and we gave up an easy TD on 3rd and long.

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    That was a mistake.

    If the Bears can come out on 3rd and long and make a helluva one handed catch for a first down, then you take your hat off to them.

    But know way you make it easy for that scrub QB by calling a blitz with soft coverage behind it. Especially the same damn blitz you run all the time. AND, when the QBsees it coming for about 6 seconds before he snaps the ball.

  • Just Fire Baby

    YPC is good, also rushing TD’s allowed.

    For pass defense, look at QB rating allowed or QBR.

    Raiders are #5 in the league in QB rating allowed, and in the mid 20′s in ypg.

    Which means we give up yards, but at a rate much higher than the majority of the league, we generate turnovers in the passing game.

  • Hagar the Horrible

    Just Fire baby…post 232:

    If you look at the tape again you’ll see that Hanie had forever and forever in those last plays when we were rushing three men. Even Kyle Boller would have looked good making those throws with that much time.

    This isn’t a one time problem, it happened over and over when (Al, RIP) dictated the defense schemes over the years.

  • YoungAmerican

    MistaBrown Says:
    December 1st, 2011 at 9:09 am

    Bottom line is all the Nnamdi knuckleheads that thought our def was going to be sorry without him have been silenced. You dont even hear from those chumps anymore, in fact I cant even remember who they are.
    ______

    YoungAmerican Says:
    December 1st, 2011 at 9:05 am

    To be fair to Routt, “one easy TD per game” is overstated. He’s given up 5 TDs this season while his completion percentage and YPA is lower than Revis, Nnamdi, and Woodson.

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    I think it’s impossible to say what Nnamdi’s impact would have been on this team. If Al was still around? This defense would be far better with Nnamdi. In Oakland, playing Al’s defense, he’d rarely be challenged. Although with Al around he likely still wouldn’t be allowed to shadow the #1 WR.

    The Eagles are flat-out using him wrong. Not taking advantage of what he’s good at. Terrible FA signing on their part. They paid him without understanding how to utilize him. They’re trying to use him the way the Packers use Woodson, and the fact is that Nnamdi is just not the same kind of player that Woodson is.

    Still, there’s no way to tell that in Oakland, sans-Davis defense, Nnamdi would be used the same way he was for years here. Would he be allowed to stick on the #1 WR in man coverage all day? They’re using FAR more zone coverage than they ever have, and blitzing at a higher rate than they ever have – though that might be the product of not having Nnamdi.

    The changes in the defense, however, have benefited the defense as a whole. The Raiders are playing their best defense in years. If they can be a little more consistent against the run, especially against mobile QBs, they are capable of playing at a championship level. Just need to take that next step.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Especially the same damn blitz you run all the time.

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    J Hill = not a fan of the two safety blitz.

    Been hammering away at it for years

  • hwnrdr

    Interesting site, Bcz24:

    Team Record: 07-4
    Team Productivity Stat (TEAM PS): -10.13
    Offensive Productivity Stat (OPS): 19.1
    Defensive Productivity Stat (DPS): -28.07

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