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Post-practice notes from Wednesday (11-30-11)

Spent the better part of the day working on the Chester McGlockton obituary for the paper. Thanks for your patience and understanding, and may God bless McGlockton, his wife Zina and two daughters.
With that said, here are some tidbits from today’s proceedings, the first full practice for the Raiders in preparation for their game against the Miami Dolphins on Sunday.

INJURY LIST NOT SHRINKING
Kicker Sebastian Janikowski is back on the injury report, joining the list of usual occupants. Coach Hue Jackson doesn’t seem too concerned about Janikowski’s left hamstring.
Why should he? Janikowski is fresh from a game in which he set a franchise record by converting all six of his field-goal attempts against the Chicago Bears in a 25-20 victory and being named AFC Special Teams Player of the Week.
“Maybe he kicked too many field goals,” Jackson said. “You never know. He did an excellent job. Hopefully we’ll get him back out here soon. He’ll be fine. I told you, I’m always going to be cautious with these players. We got some big games down the stretch here.”
Add wide receiver Denarius Moore and defensive end Jarvis Moss to the long list of players who missed practice but weren’t mentioned in an earlier post.
Moore was in full uniform at practice this morning. However, he was deemed not healthy enough to participate, Jackson said. Moss still is recovering from a hamstring injury he suffered against the Minnesota Vikings on Nov. 20.
For the record, it’s an ankle that is botherin Moore and not his foot, as Jackson initially reported. Hey, cut Jackson some slack trying to keep track of all the injuries and their corresponding body parts.
Moore said he was on the field Wednesday on a fact-finding misson.
“It was just to really see where I was standing at, as far as this week,” Moore said. “And so we’re still taking it day by day, see how it’s going to go.”
T.J. Houshmandzadeh fielded punts in Moore’s absence.

LOCKER ROOM SCENE
Curious what it was like in the Raiders locker room after they beat the Bears? Here’s a snippet from Jackson singlin out Janikowski and Shane Lechler for their heroics.
Jackson: “We all know they’re the highest-paid kickers in football, But listen to me, listen to me. Truth be told, guys, here’s the deal: the last time this place was 7-4, these two men were here (Janikowski says under his breath, “That’s a long time).” These two men were here and these two guys, today, helped this team get to where (it) needed to be.”
Lechler: “It’s a good deal to be 7-4. Everybody’s happy, but guess what — we’ve got a lot of football to play, men. We’ve got a whole lot of football to play. Some tough games coming up. Let’s keep on the grind. I’m telling you, we’ve got keep on the grind. If you want to keep this feeling, keep grinding…”
Quarterback Carson Palmer said he can’t recall a punter being asked to address the team after a victory. Then again, he added, Lechler is unlike any other punter in the league.
“No, there might not be another one in the league,” Palmer said. “He’s definitely the best punter in the league, but as far as a teammate, a leader, a veteran, a professional, he does everything right. He says the right things. He doesn’t act like a kicker. I wouldn’t put him in that mold. He is just a great teammate.”
Veteran defensive tackle Richard Seymour played for a New England Patriots team that held kicker Adam Vinatieri in high regard.
Seymour said he and his Raiders teammates feel the same way toward Lechler and Janikowski, in large part because they walk the walk.
“Well, obviously, with him being the best punter in the league, that helps,” Seymour said. “Guys listen to guys who get it done. And he’s a combination of both, where he’s a veteran leader and also he’s a great player.”

FOURTH-QUARTER BLUES FELT BY ALL
Palmer wasn’t even with the Raiders when their five-game scoring drought in the fourth quarter started. Yet, he was just as aware of the the ignominious streak.
“I was definitely aware of it,” Palmer said of a streak that ended when running back Michael Bush scored a 3-yard touchdown late in the fourth quarter against the Bears. “Especially in that game, we needed that score. But we need more, and we need to find ways to generate more points in the red zone, but also just in the fourth quarter in general.
“At this point in the year, especially with some of the games we have coming up, we have to generate more points in the second half.”

JOHNSON MIGHT PLAY SUNDAY
Cornerback Chris Johnson showed progress by returning to practice last week and being active against the Bears. However, he failed to set foot on the field once the game started.
“He just wanted me to put the pads back on, just in case,” Johnson said of coach Jackson. “I was the emergency guy last week. I just went along with what coach wanted me to do.”
This week?
“I’m getting back in the mix this week,” Johnson said.

CLOSE GAMES A BENEFIT FOR RAIDERS
None of the Raiders seven victories has been by more than 10 points and the difference in those games is only 43 points.
Jackson said the short-term pain of battling through so many tension-filled games will benefit the Raiders in the long run.
“It’s very important because, as you go down the stretch here these games are going to be close, going to be tough,” Jackson said. “We all wish we had those blowouts where you’re sitting in the fourth quarter smiling. But that’s not the way it is in the NFL. Hopefully we’ll have one here soon at some point in time.”
The other benefit is that close games are the kind of affairs that build confidence and character. Jackson said. Maybe so, he added, but it still would be nice to be a part of a laugher.
“Nothing is going to be given to us,” Jackson said. “We understand that. We know it’s going to be tough. This team kind of likes it that way. I don’t like it that way. They’re OK with it as long as it (leads to) wins and wins.”

BUSH HOLDING UP WELL
Bush has averaged 28 carries the past three games as he absorbs the workload in Darren McFadden’s absence. You would be hard pressed to know Bush has been used so much, though.
“He’s been awesome,” Jackson said. “I’ve been around guys that carry the ball like that and then they come to Wednesday practice and they can’t move. Regardless of whether you gave them victory Monday off or not, because physically, it’s tough. He hasn’t batted an eye.”

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  • Just Fire Baby

    Do you guys think Tebow and the Donks are a factor?

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    I think they will go 9-7 to finish the year, and probably be 1 game out of the playoffs.

    The NFL live guys were on the Herd, and said Von Miller might win defensive MVP this year (will definately be in the top 3) and may be a top 15 players at any position in the NFL.

    Tebow has started 6 games this year, and in 5 of them he didn’t turn it over.

    Ball-control with a great defense, and they will be in every game.

  • hwnrdr

    DMAC, 298…No, I don’t think so, but its kinda good for the team…keep focused and win out!

  • YoungAmerican

    Bears and Patriots will stop the Broncos from being too much of a factor, but the Raiders have to take care of their own business. Can’t lose more than two games in the home stretch of the season, and even losing two games would be cutting it too close for comfort.

  • hwnrdr

    303.YoungAmerican Says:
    December 1st, 2011 at 9:58 am
    Bears and Patriots will stop the Broncos from being too much of a factor, but the Raiders have to take care of their own business. Can’t lose more than two games in the home stretch of the season, and even losing two games would be cutting it too close for comfort.

    I’m telling you…like I said after that Donkey loss…we have to go 7-1, 6-2 at best, but yeah, that will be cutting it close!

  • DMAC

    So why haven’t teams loaded the box and forced Tebow to beat you w/ his arm and not legs?

  • hwnrdr

    We’ll see…like its good for the Pack to stay on their game because of SF right behind them, it will be good for us with FN Teblow on our a**!

  • J Hill

    Kamerion is a fringe Pro Bowl player who gets paid like a HOF.

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    What if he plaed for a DC like Wade Phillips, John Fox, LeBeau, or some guy who would actually design some mismatches for him?

  • Just Fire Baby

    You have to load the box with 9 people against Tebow, to get the same effect as loading it with 8, and DC’s just don’t want to do that.

    In regular rushing offenses, the QB just hands it off and doesn’t do anything.

    With Tebow rumbling around, it allows for an extra blocker.

    Pretty tricky, and somewhat sustainable if your a healthy 23 year old dude. Not sure it will work when he is 27 or has a bum ankle, but for now, it ain’t stopping.

  • autopalm77

    Minnesota beats Denver this week….Period…..

  • raiderinparadise

    Ha, well Gio has been great for this team … he made a mistake and will learn from it, so in the future we won’t have to get hurt by that type of play in that situation when it really matters (playoffs).

    MIA is excited to play us, I guarantee you that … Moore is productive and can make every throw in this league, he just hasn’t been on the right team/talent pool … but the fins have nice targets and compliments to him.

    We have to hit him. force turnovers, because our patchwork offense is going ot hit a wall on the road, thats my gut. unless moore is back healthy and Taiwan, we really are askig a lot of Bush again.

  • hwnrdr

    307.J Hill Says:
    December 1st, 2011 at 10:03 am
    Kamerion is a fringe Pro Bowl player who gets paid like a HOF.

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    What if he plaed for a DC like Wade Phillips, John Fox, LeBeau, or some guy who would actually design some mismatches for him?

    Or possibly Spags?

  • SilverAndBlackBleeder

    305.DMAC Says:
    December 1st, 2011 at 10:01 am
    So why haven’t teams loaded the box and forced Tebow to beat you w/ his arm and not legs?

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    They pretty much do for most of the game….Denver’s D keeps ‘em in it though, and then if it’s a one score game, and Denver has the ball in the 4th; all it takes is one lapse, and one person who has outside containment has consistently blown their assigment in pinches in too far and Tebow reads it perfectly. It’s happened at critical junctions (red zone, 3rd or 4th and long) in all of Denver’s wins…….well, that and/or divine intervention taking place literally in front of all our eyes is the key to the Broncs getting some Ws…Lol…but that should all stop soon….God loves the Raiders just as much and something’s gotta give!

  • J Hill

    Do you guys think Tebow and the Donks are a factor?

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    Not at all.

  • Just Fire Baby

    What if he plaed for a DC like Wade Phillips, John Fox, LeBeau, or some guy who would actually design some mismatches for him?

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    Good point.

    Fox and Von Miller teamed up was a bad break for us.

  • ElkGRaider

    DMAC…

    They are/will be a factor. Teams take games week to week. It takes more than one week to prepare against that style. Of course teams will adjust next year but it was a perfect storm. Totally new offense…guy fit perfect for it…and offense started during the year. Like the wildcat a couple years ago. Plus their D is playing great. Wish we played em again…

  • Hagar the Horrible

    If Tebow never accomplishes another thing, at least he contributed to the firing of Norv Turner. Of course, then, the Spanos family may be too stupid to fire Turner. They might keep him at the end of the season.

    I’m glad they fired Marty Schollenheimer, as Marty always had our number, always found a way to beat us…from KC to SD. Glad he’s gone.

  • YoungAmerican

    Tebow will struggle against an opportunistic Bears defense who excel at keeping the play in front of them.

    The Broncos can’t match the points the Pats will put up on their defense, even with a great combo like Miller and Dumervil.

  • ElkGRaider

    305.DMAC Says:
    December 1st, 2011 at 10:01 am
    So why haven’t teams loaded the box and forced Tebow to beat you w/ his arm and not legs?
    ========================

    Hes not a TOTAL failure passing the ball. Hes just not pro caliber…

  • Just Fire Baby

    Tebow’s pass attempts to INT is best in the NFL.

    Part of that is because he throws a helluva of a split-finger, but still can’t overlook that.

  • ElkGRaider

    Tebow will struggle against an opportunistic Bears defense who excel at keeping the play in front of them.

    The Broncos can’t match the points the Pats will put up on their defense, even with a great combo like Miller and Dumervil.
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    This is also true. The donkeys havent played to top yet…and the Jets dont count

  • DMAC

    ElkGRaider Says:
    December 1st, 2011 at 10:06 am

    DMAC…

    They are/will be a factor. Teams take games week to week. It takes more than one week to prepare against that style. Of course teams will adjust next year but it was a perfect storm.
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    I totally agree.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Tebow’s ball has more late action than a Mariano Rivera cutter.

    He actually has had quite a few drops, including two bad ones last week.

    That crap is hard to catch on a sunny day in San Diego, can you imagine when it is cold in Denver???

  • SilverAndBlackBleeder

    And lets not give Tebow too much credit….Don’t forget (which I’m sure no one has) that we gave away the Denver game and we were up 10 chucking the ball down the middle of field recklessly instead of running it down their throats…..

    Love how we stayed with the run against Chicago even though the yardage wasn’t there like we hoped….shows a physical toughness that a lot of teams don’t have…

  • DMAC

    I love coach Jackson, but still can’t understand why he doesn’t utilize Boss in the red zone? Dude is a huge target and has great hands. Use his services Hue!

  • fingers

    Anybody hear that Rolono McClain was involved in another shooting in Decatur ?..

  • DMAC

    nope

  • hwnrdr

    324.DMAC Says:
    December 1st, 2011 at 10:12 am
    I love coach Jackson, but still can’t understand why he doesn’t utilize Boss in the red zone? Dude is a huge target and has great hands. Use his services Hue!

    He did on one play and it almost got INT

  • hwnrdr

    Nope!

  • YoungAmerican
  • hwnrdr

    Well, good news is that he wasn’t charged with anything!

  • Just Fire Baby

    How the hell is he in Decatur?

    Even though he may not have practiced yesterday (not sure if he did or not) he would have been present.

  • fingers

    I’m just wondering why McClain isn’t with the team… Hue needs to straighten his a&& out…. Were in a playoff drive ..

  • YoungAmerican

    He wasn’t at practice yesterday. Interesting.

  • DMAC

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    December 1st, 2011 at 10:21 am

    How the hell is he in Decatur?

    Even though he may not have practiced yesterday (not sure if he did or not) he would have been present.
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    Yeah, WTF?

  • raiderinparadise

    Thanks for the link.

    This pisses me off, Rolando needs to stay outta Decatur. If he thinks he’s that gangster than he should play like it on the field.

    He is only what 23? Needs to get a grip right quick.

  • SilverAndBlackBleeder

    good grief…what the hell is he doing flying home during the week? No wonder he isn’t practicing Wednesday; he’s too busy kicking it Tuesday night!!!

  • Just Fire Baby

    Whether he was actually there or not, dude needs to stay out of Decatur apparently.

    Fighting and getting shot at is no way to spend any day when you got millions in the bank.

  • raiderinparadise

    Just the distratction we didn’t need.

  • inonewordraider

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    Darren McFadden and Jacoby Ford are not practicing, either.
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    No sign of Denarius Moore at practice. He was on the field Wednesday but didn’t practice.

  • autopalm77

    How about Silverback making an error in a post and then making amends for it….WOW…How many guys in here would do that…!!!!

  • DMAC

    Romac needs to be smarter and stay away from his thug homies in public.

  • SilverAndBlackBleeder

    I’m guessing he flys back to Oakland Wednesday; and if it’s going back for some family ish; coo….but when news gets leaked your at a friend’s house and shooting pops off; muthaf%*ka you are in the NFL…why are you around that?!

  • silverback

    Baby Says:
    December 1st, 2011 at 10:21 am
    How the hell is he in Decatur?

    Even though he may not have practiced yesterday (not sure if he did or not) he would have been present.

    Bye week?

  • silverback

    Autopalm77 Says:
    December 1st, 2011 at 10:24 am
    How about Silverback making an error in a post and then making amends for it….WOW…How many guys in here would do that…!!!!

    I have a small E-Peen

  • SilverAndBlackBleeder

    343.silverback Says:
    December 1st, 2011 at 10:25 am
    Baby Says:
    December 1st, 2011 at 10:21 am
    How the hell is he in Decatur?

    Even though he may not have practiced yesterday (not sure if he did or not) he would have been present.

    Bye week?

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    nope, happened just this Tuesday….why are you in Alabama if you have practice in Oakland on Wednesday??!!

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  • YoungAmerican

    No excuse for missing practice at this point in the season. The Raiders are a better team with McClain on the field, but this is something they don’t need from the “defensive quarterback”.

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  • fingers

    The Huntsville times said the incident happened Wednesday night… Last night

  • inonewordraider

    even if Moore Ford and Dmac back next week, they won’t have the chemistry neccessary against GB