Raiders lose, Broncos win, tied atop AFC West
By Steve Corkran
Sunday, December 4th, 2011 at 2:25 pm in Oakland Raiders.
The Raiders lost more than a game Sunday, with their 34-14 shellacking at the hands of the Miami Dolphins. They also lost their one-game lead in the AFC West, thanks to yet another chapter of Tim Tebow’s late-game heroics.
The Broncos rallied from several deficits against the Minnesota Vikings, including 29-21 and 32-29 scores in the fourth quarter, for a 35-32 victory that moved them into a tie with the Raiders in the AFC West.
The Broncos and Raiders are 7-5, with four games to play. The way the Raiders played Sunday, it’s not a stretch to envision the Raiders trailing the Broncos by one game a week from today, given the Raiders play the undefeated Green Bay Packers on the road, and the Broncos play the ailing Chicago Bears.
It’s too early to get into tiebreakers between the Raiders and Broncos, but the thing to keep an eye on is the teams’ records in common games. That is, their eight games against the AFC East and NFC North.
If the Raiders and Broncos wind up tied in the division and have identical records against divisional foes, the next tiebreak would be records against common opponents.
As of now, the Raiders are 3-3, the Broncos 3-2. In other words, it isn’t looking good for the Raiders in that regard.
For the record, the Raiders final four games are, in order: at Green Bay, vs. the Detroit Lions, at the Kansas City Chiefs, vs. the San Diego Chargers.
The Broncos play the Chicago Bears and New England Patriots at home, followed by a road game against the Buffalo Bills and a home game against the Chiefs.
PENALTIES RESURFACE
The Raiders appeared to have a handle on the season-long penalties issue when they committed only six for 44 yards against the Bears a week ago. Not so fast.
On Sunday, the Raiders committed 10 for 91 yards, right about their averages in both categories entering the game.
Right offensive tackle Khalif Barnes led the way with three for 25, including two holding infractions that wiped out receptions by wide receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey.
A pass interference penalty on cornerback Stanford Routt gave the Dolphins a first-and-goal at the Raiders 1-yard line and keyed their first touchdown.
SEYMOUR EJECTED … AGAIN
Raiders defensive tackle Richard Seymour got ejected from the game and flagged with a 15-yard penalty for delivering a left cross to the jaw of Dolphins offensive lineman Richie Incognito.
This marks the second straight season in which Seymour has been ejected from a game late in the season for losing his temper and taking it out on an opposing player.
Last season, Seymour got ejected for hitting Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger in the head after a Steelers touchdown.
WHERE’S REECE?
Fullback Marcel Reece carved up the Bears a week ago, slicing his way through the Bears defense for 92 yards on five receptions.
He rushed one time for 10 yards and caught one pass for 38 yards against the Dolphins, but both plays didn’t happen until the fourth quarter, when the Raiders trailed 34-7.
BUSH TRIMMED BY DOLPHINS
Raiders coach Hue Jackson said earlier this week that he didn’t see any signs of running back Michael Bush wearing down as a result of 84 carries the past three games.
On Sunday, Bush looked nothing like the player who amassed 530 yards rushing in place of injured starter Darren McFadden the five games before Sunday.
The Dolphins held Bush to 18 yards on 10 carries, with a long of 3 yards. This was reminiscent of last season, when the Dolphins limited the Raiders to 16 yards rushing.
Reggie Bush was, by far, the better Bush on the field Sunday. The Dolphins running back rushed for 100 yards and one touchdown on 22 carries.
MCCLAIN CLEARED TO PLAY
Jackson said he intended to sort through all the information he received about middle linebacker Rolando McClain’s arrest Thursday before making a decision on whether McClain would be allowed to play Sunday.
Ultimately, Jackson allowed McClain to play, though we don’t know the rationale. It’s likely that Jackson heard something in McClain’s account that led him to believe McClain isn’t guilty as charged.
Time will tell, of course.
As it stands, McClain is due in court in the coming weeks to answer to four misdemeanor charges, including third-degree assault, for an incident in Decatur, Ala., in which an acquaintance of McClain’s accused him of punching him, holding a gun to his head and firing the gun near his ear.
McClain has yet to comment publicly on the matter. His lawyer said Friday that McClain is innocent of the charges.
McClain led the Raiders with eight tackles, including one for a loss.
DOLPHINS RUSH PAST RAIDERS
It’s as simple as looking at the opponents’ rushing line if you want to know how the Raiders fared this season.
They allowed an average of 209.3 yards rushing in the four games they lost this season, an average of 93 per game in their seven victories.
On Sunday, the Dolphins rushed for 209 yards on 44 carries. That effort is going to push the Raiders toward last in the league against the run.
The Raiders entered Sunday’s game 27th at an average of 135.3 per game. That figure soared to 141.7. They are last in the league at an average of 5.3 yards per carry.
FOURTH-QUARTER BLUES GONE
The Raiders went five straight games without scoring any points in the fourth quarter. They ended that drought last Sunday, with a late touchdown against the Bears.
On Sunday, the Raiders scored all of their points in the fourth quarter. Unfortunately for the Raiders, they trailed by 34 at that time.
PALMER STRUGGLES
Carson Palmer seemed to be in a groove entering the Dolphins game, based on solid outings in three straight victories. Yet, Sunday he never looked comfortable against the Dolphins defense.
He had one pass intercepted that got overturned because of a Dolphins penalty. The one intercpetion that counted was returned for a touchdown.
Palmer completed 20 of 41 passes for 276 yards and two touchdowns. However, most of that came in garbage time, with the Raiders down 34-0 and the outcome a foregone conclusion.
ODDS AND ENDS
Left offensive tackle Jared Veldheer allowed a sack and got called for a holding penalty on another play that likely would have yielded a sack.
Such is life in the NFL, where left tackles face the team’s best pass rusher almost every game and there isn’t any time for a breather.
As coach Jackson says, If you take a breath, you’re getting beat.
Heyward-Bey caught three passes, including one that went for a touchdown on a nice one-handed catch. He would have posted pretty gaudy stats were it not for the two Barnes holding penalties.
Chaz Schilens added six receptions for 89 yards, and he is looking more and more like the player who showed such great promise his rookie season.
Cornerback Chris Johnson appeared in a game for the first time since Oakland’s fourth game. His performance was a mixed bag. He made a great play on a deep pass but got burned for a long gain on another pass in man coverage.
Sebastian Janikowski wasn’t called upon for any field-goal attempts Sunday, one week after he kicked a franchise record six field goals.
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December 4th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
RAIDER NATION
December 4th, 2011 at 2:27 pm
Thec07 Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
Notice how Wake was a factor? HE’s a factor in most of their games.
Where are the Raider factor guys on defense? Once every 4th or 5th game..maybe…maybe one guy has a top shelf game.
And there in lies a lot of the problems here
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“Should” be our money ball guys;
TK,
Wimbley
RSEYMO
Routt
All were invisible…
December 4th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
TRUTH: Raiders beat the hapless Chargers who had a decimated O line.
Raiders beat the Bears with no QB.
Raiders got smoked by a team that was 3-8.
EXPOSED.
December 4th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
fingers Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
I don’t have any idea how this teams gonna playout the final 4 games…. Haven’t been comfortable all year knowing this teams identidy… This was a game they should have won… Or at least put up a fight… Didn’t happen.. Who are the Raiders?.. Just don’t know..
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Team hasn’t been healthy all season.
Unable to establish anything with McTurftoe out all the time along with Moore, Ford and every other CB on the team.
December 4th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
Is it just me, or does Mike Mitchell s….?
Very little blitzing today. I don’t get it.
December 4th, 2011 at 2:34 pm
I assume you are aware we will not make the playoffs if they dont play right?
SO if they CANT play, IR them and at least grab some bodies that can help.
tebow will beat the bears in denver, they lost at home to KC.
If we lose at Green Bay were 1.5 back.
while those njured players spit sunflower seeds on the sidelines
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Grab somebodies that can help…Okay I will humor you, and give you a easy one, from week 9 on where do you “grab” these players you talked about????
December 4th, 2011 at 2:35 pm
Man I can’t tell you what a bad mood I’m in, getting beat is one thing. Getting beat because you didn’t even try is quite another.
Glass Tiger! Even if we make the playoffs we were a one and done team. AFC West is weak and we can’t even win it.
December 4th, 2011 at 2:35 pm
Nothing surprises me with this team. Could beat the Packers, it wouldn’t shock me.
December 4th, 2011 at 2:35 pm
6. wurd.
Raiders didn’t show up today
December 4th, 2011 at 2:35 pm
lefty12 Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
“The defense gets paid way too much money…..”.All professional athletes get paid too much money.If you are worrying about them making too much money,perhaps you shouldn’t follow pro sports.Stick to the college game where only certain schools overpay their players.
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Lefty, the point I am making is that the Raiders paid a defense big money (for NFL standards) to not have a defense that is in the bottom fifth in points and rushing yards allowed.
The Raiders could have gotten those results and saved the coin for other gaps on the O-Line.
It is what it is…but its disappointing when the Raider money guys do nothing.
December 4th, 2011 at 2:36 pm
Damn,Thec,they are just standing on the corner waiting for the chance.
December 4th, 2011 at 2:38 pm
#6…..
anywhere.
Luois rankin for RB maybe?
any random WR that can run a route.
there are players all over.
you cant just give up on fill-ins and have 8 players every sunday that dont play for 3 straight weeks as you lose your playoffs spot.
mcann was a good pick-up.
hell, why not TO?
December 4th, 2011 at 2:38 pm
the point I am making is that the Raiders paid a defense big money (for NFL standards) to not have a defense that is in the bottom fifth in points and rushing yards allowed.
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Truth….
The D money ball guys have earned nothing…
We get way less ROI on the D side of the ball as compared to the O….
Most of the money ball guys are on the D…
December 4th, 2011 at 2:38 pm
Cut Seymour, Boss, Bharnes, and Bresnehan when the season is over. Get some real linebackers.
December 4th, 2011 at 2:39 pm
I miss Hagan
December 4th, 2011 at 2:39 pm
Lefty12 Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 2:36 pm
Damn,Thec,they are just standing on the corner waiting for the chance.
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Left I may show up at Alemeda, and see if they try me out at MLB….lol
December 4th, 2011 at 2:40 pm
Forte out for year, Chicago done
December 4th, 2011 at 2:40 pm
FBN… fire Bresnahan now!!!
December 4th, 2011 at 2:41 pm
Even if we make the playoffs we were a one and done team. AFC West is weak and we can’t even win it.
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Before the season started if anyone said we’d be tied for 1st place after 13 weeks most would have been happy.If they had said we’d make the play-offs most would have been ecstatic.
December 4th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
we have zero LBs.
just watching giants & GB with no name LBs making plays,
There has got to be somebody out there to replace mcclain.
December 4th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
So disappointing. The raiders did not compete.
December 4th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
Missing all of our weapons caught up to us today…both lines just looked like garbage.
The damn Tebow saga continues…
That Detroit game looms large now…if we lose next week,we have to win the last 3 to get a 10-6 record,which may give us a wild card.
I am not even gonna ASSUME that Denver will lose again.The more we talk about them losing,seems like it gives them energy to win.
WIN LOSE or TIE,RAIDER until I DIE!
December 4th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
Packers will be -17 at home.
December 4th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
any random WR that can run a route.
there are players all over.
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Really…You mean i can go “anywhere” and get a quality NFL WR????
If you look at the game today WR, was not the problem…
We have very solid depth at WR, not many in the NFL are as deep as we are…
December 4th, 2011 at 2:44 pm
I miss Hagan
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Inactive today for the bills…
December 4th, 2011 at 2:44 pm
GoodOle00 Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
TRUTH: Raiders beat the hapless Chargers who had a decimated O line.
Raiders beat the Bears with no QB.
Raiders got smoked by a team that was 3-8.
EXPOSED.
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Facing reality head on.
December 4th, 2011 at 2:45 pm
lefty12 Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 2:41 pm
Even if we make the playoffs we were a one and done team. AFC West is weak and we can’t even win it.
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Before the season started if anyone said we’d be tied for 1st place after 13 weeks most would have been happy.If they had said we’d make the play-offs most would have been ecstatic.
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That’s right. 2 more wins and it will be the best season we’ve seen in 8 years.
Just want to see this team get healthy and finish strong!
December 4th, 2011 at 2:46 pm
Raiderinparadise Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 2:38 pm
#6…..
anywhere.
Luois rankin for RB maybe?
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Do you think Louis freakin Rankin would have made a difference the today?
I liked the kid however, the game today was not on the RB…
Furthermore, the reason why a certain player is not in the NFL is teams do not believe they are NFL quality, or can help a team win….
December 4th, 2011 at 2:47 pm
wasbanned Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 2:45 pm
lefty12 Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 2:41 pm
Even if we make the playoffs we were a one and done team. AFC West is weak and we can’t even win it.
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Before the season started if anyone said we’d be tied for 1st place after 13 weeks most would have been happy.If they had said we’d make the play-offs most would have been ecstatic.
…….
That’s right. 2 more wins and it will be the best season we’ve seen in 8 years.
Just want to see this team get healthy and finish strong!
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Plus we have a 1st year coach, a QB who sat all offseason and 6 games of the season, and the Owner/GM/CEO died a few weeks into the season.
Given all that, the fact that this team is still in the hunt is amazing.
December 4th, 2011 at 2:47 pm
We can overcome the whack azz D. We can overcome the injuries. We can even overcome the penalties. What we can’t overcome is the lack of mental balls
December 4th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
anybody would have made a difference today.
wimbley, routt and huff paid top in league at their respective positions.
tell me how they are playing this year?
December 4th, 2011 at 2:49 pm
Without McFadden, Ford and Moore, this is not really a playoff caliber team.
On Defense we are just not very smart. There is plenty of talent on the field but not enough smarts or leadership.
Seymour is the identity of this defense and that identity is a mixed bag of physical talent, plays taken off and a lack of veteran leadership when it matters.
Disappointed that McClain played, since I think it sends him the same message he’s received his whole life (ie it’s ok as long as you can play football). On the other hand I can see why Hue played him, he was the only physical presence in the game. Our defense is not good without him.
Palmer seems tired. Need to have a good run game to protect him this year.
O-line was not nearly physical enough. They are still not very good at pass protection. A good run game fixes a lot of these problems.
Teams that can stop our run game will beat us.
December 4th, 2011 at 2:49 pm
Raiderinparadise Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
anybody would have made a difference today.
wimbley, routt and huff paid top in league at their respective positions.
tell me how they are playing this year?
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It is going to take a while to dig out of the Al Davis era. The new GM has some work to do fixing his mistakes.
December 4th, 2011 at 2:50 pm
I just went through the ESPN playoff machine and had the Raiders and Broncos both go 3-1 to close the season.
Obviously no guarantees – but if you assume the better teams in the AFC (Ravens, Steelers, Texans, Patriots) take care of business, the Raiders need a Jets loss to either the Giants or Dolphins in the final two weeks to take the wildcard spot.
A Bengals win over either the Texans or Ravens will pretty much mean the Raiders have to win all four remaining games given the quality of Cincy’s other opponents.
So like it or not, it is a “what if” situation for the Raiders now.
December 4th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
Too many fans get too high when we win and too low when we lose.Every year the talking heads act like they have the play-offs figured out about this time of year and then it all blows up and what they say will happen isn’t even close to what really does happen.A lot can happen in 4 weeks in the NFL.
December 4th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
Horrible football day. Our position took a hit
December 4th, 2011 at 2:52 pm
mcclain shot his team in the head today, mentally that is
December 4th, 2011 at 2:52 pm
Broncos will finish 1-3
Raiders just need to win 2 games.
December 4th, 2011 at 2:55 pm
TRUTH: Raiders beat the hapless Chargers who had a decimated O line.
Raiders beat the Bears with no QB.
Raiders got smoked by a team that was 3-8.
EXPOSED.
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Vikings with no Peterson.
December 4th, 2011 at 2:55 pm
at least we scored in the 4th quarter lol
TWICE lol
December 4th, 2011 at 2:55 pm
Raiders also beat the Texans w/o Johnson and Mario Williams.
December 4th, 2011 at 2:56 pm
TRUTH: Raiders beat the hapless Chargers who had a decimated O line.
Raiders beat the Bears with no QB.
Raiders got smoked by a team that was 3-8.
EXPOSED.
Raiders win those games without McFadden, Ford and the Bears without Moore. All this after losing their starting QB and bringing in another guy who was sitting the whole season.
STFU you have been exposed
December 4th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
Raiders also beat the Broncos – when they had Orton at QB. Barely.
December 4th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
at this point were pretenders until the team proves otherwise.
packers is the stage to do it.
if they team has any guts they will battle hard.
if they get blown out, they didnt have it em anyways.
too mnay injuries and distractions.
December 4th, 2011 at 2:58 pm
7-9 as likely as a division win.
December 4th, 2011 at 3:00 pm
Our linebacker talent is GOOD, our scheme is terrible. They sit back and catch rbs all day, 5 yards later.
Same story for 8 years regardless of who is out there.
December 4th, 2011 at 3:00 pm
A win is a m’fn win. Period. The Raiders are missing players too. With that said…
The problem is this HAPLESS defense not stepping up and worst yet…allowing itself to get run out of the stadium today in a game they had to have and against an offense that is not too difficult to figure out.
December 4th, 2011 at 3:01 pm
Tell you what happened. They were thinking about GB and that weather and so they thought they could turn off the engines a bit.
December 4th, 2011 at 3:01 pm
The problem is this HAPLESS defense not stepping up and worst yet…allowing itself to get run out of the stadium today in a game they had to have and against an offense that is not too difficult to figure out.
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hahahaha….Truth…
December 4th, 2011 at 3:02 pm
Marios Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 3:01 pm
Tell you what happened. They were thinking about GB and that weather and so they thought they could turn off the engines a bit.
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We are going to beat GB.
December 4th, 2011 at 3:02 pm
Look at Houston. That’s a GREAT example of a defense lifting its offense up.
And to think their defense was certifiably worse than the Raiders last year.
Raiders put a lot of trust in Seymour, Kelly, Wimbley and Routt..gotta say they’ve disappointed so far
December 4th, 2011 at 3:04 pm
Raiders put a lot of trust in Seymour, Kelly, Wimbley and Routt..gotta say they’ve disappointed so far
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Truth…. A very poor return on investment…
With the money we spend on the D it should be top 5.
December 4th, 2011 at 3:05 pm
It’s really beyond me how us fans can say that professional players don’t show up to play. I could never understand why, yet when one witness a game like today, one needs to ask how a team that can play good one week come back and not play at all the next.
Fans use the injury excuse too often, there are 53 players on a team and they’re all professional players who have already been to the ropes, rookies and veterans, at the top of their classes.
Yet, the bears played a lot better against the Raiders on the road than against the chefs at home. And the donkeys keep finding ways to continue winning against all odds. Do the donkeys have better talent than the Raiders? or are they playing above their means? or are they just better coached?
How can the bears beat the donkeys next week when they couldn’t beat the chefs at home? How can the Raiders beat a juggernaut like the packers when they had such a horrible time against the fins?
For all we know, maybe the Raiders collective psyche has imploded with the McClain fiasco?
December 4th, 2011 at 3:05 pm
Don’t know if anyone has noticed but all three: Kelly, Seymour and Wimbley were questionable heading in. Kelly and Seymour actually played limited snaps
December 4th, 2011 at 3:05 pm
SnB, Texans got smart and went to 3-4 D, like we should.
December 4th, 2011 at 3:05 pm
I’m with on Seymour and Wimbley,but can’t agree with Kelly and Routt.
December 4th, 2011 at 3:06 pm
35.lefty12 Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
Too many fans get too high when we win and too low when we lose.Every year the talking heads act like they have the play-offs figured out about this time of year and then it all blows up and what they say will happen isn’t even close to what really does happen.A lot can happen in 4 weeks in the NFL.
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Thank you Lefty12. Seems like everyone is ready to cut half the team and fire Hue. A new GM can’t change this team over night. The idea of putting injured starters on IR and replacing them with bums is a little over the top. I’m rolling with what the Raiders have, just a bad day today. A really bad day on both sides.
December 4th, 2011 at 3:07 pm
riiiiiiight?
we will be GB but cant beat dolphins at miami, but hey @ GB, thats a win right?
I hope your right, but we barely best the vikings and bears.
if we do beat them, i hope seymour and mcclain dont play.
December 4th, 2011 at 3:08 pm
Any reason desmond bryant shouldn’t start over Seymour?
December 4th, 2011 at 3:08 pm
46. That blows the whole Al Davis’ D is to blame for the lousy run stopping.
Bres has been calling all kinds of formations since Als passing
December 4th, 2011 at 3:09 pm
Only 14 rushes for 48 yards all the while averaging over 150 a game…Pathetic….Time of possession over 38 minutes for Miami….Accountability….Coaching staff and the line of scrimmage battle…
December 4th, 2011 at 3:09 pm
59. Because hes starting for Shaughnessy
December 4th, 2011 at 3:09 pm
when you have more problems than positives, you cant win.
December 4th, 2011 at 3:11 pm
Alex Smith to Crabtree bomb td. Why does it seem we rarely get a streaking wr on a safety like the packers, saints, and others routinely do. All our routes seem to be comebacks, basic crossing, and sideline steaks.
December 4th, 2011 at 3:11 pm
Desmond Bryant > Seymour
its true.
December 4th, 2011 at 3:13 pm
Alex7 Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 3:11 pm
Alex Smith to Crabtree bomb td. Why does it seem we rarely get a streaking wr on a safety like the packers, saints, and others routinely do. All our routes seem to be comebacks, basic crossing, and sideline steaks.
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Our big play guys are down…We have those same routes in our arsenal…
December 4th, 2011 at 3:14 pm
Hue’s offense without the run working should be like playing madden drunk ….. just go back to your money plays passing and use them again, and again and again.
Do we have any defining set of pass plays?
Kurt Warner one of my favorites ever always said he always had 5 plays he loved and knew when he was struggling if they went back to them he would execute even if the defense knew.
where is that for Palmer?
December 4th, 2011 at 3:14 pm
The defense was expected to be a strength going into the season.
I am not expecting dominance…but a vamilla offense like Miami should have been handled…regardless of Khalif Barnes’ inopportune holding penalties.
The defense is going to have to get this team at least 1 victory over the next 4 should this team see the playoffs.
Detroit and K.C can slow down any offense in the league
Green Bay and San Diego can score a lot of points.
The defense will have to play up in a couple of these games to give this team achance.
The offense is ok…but it still needs work….
Step up defense…WTF not
December 4th, 2011 at 3:15 pm
Goodole, you do blame davis for the run D. Chuck can’t run a successful zone attack d, it’s not who he is.
December 4th, 2011 at 3:15 pm
67. Palmer’s been here less than a month
December 4th, 2011 at 3:16 pm
69. I do not.
December 4th, 2011 at 3:17 pm
Wassup Raider bretheren, Im new to the blog but have been reading for at least a year now. Hate to join on such a Effed up day n such, but Im hella frustrated like everyone else in here. I’ll say this…I believe we need DMC back in a hurry because even if he is stopped rushing, Hue can spread him out, which with Bush it leaves us one dimentional. Winning the division is gonna take the best offensive weapon we have. Bush is like having Soup in there, he is serviceable, but with CP3 you can open up the playbook!!!
December 4th, 2011 at 3:17 pm
6.Thec07 Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 2:34 pm
I assume you are aware we will not make the playoffs if they dont play right?
SO if they CANT play, IR them and at least grab some bodies that can help.
tebow will beat the bears in denver, they lost at home to KC.
If we lose at Green Bay were 1.5 back.
while those njured players spit sunflower seeds on the sidelines
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Grab somebodies that can help…Okay I will humor you, and give you a easy one, from week 9 on where do you “grab” these players you talked about????
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thats how stupid these guys are in here mayne. they think some scrub off the street will just come in here and light it up. be damned that we may get these guys back in a week. thats why i just chill out from here more often. they scream super bowl when we win and cry when we lose. im with u about green bay.we will win and win out the rest of the way. fugg this punk sh!t.
December 4th, 2011 at 3:18 pm
SnB,
Why did you think our terrible D from last year, minus our best player, would be a strength?
December 4th, 2011 at 3:20 pm
Welcome LA_Rayduh…..AP77….
December 4th, 2011 at 3:22 pm
Goodol,
This team has struggled vs the run for two decades, maintaining same D philosophy. You think those struggles are a coincidence, or the fault of the one and only constant in the equation?
December 4th, 2011 at 3:22 pm
Don’t bite.
December 4th, 2011 at 3:22 pm
Alex,
The point I am beating to death right now…is that the problem with Oakland is overpaid players not stepping up and being difference makers…really p&sses me off.
The Raiders needed an average defense to be successfull…instead they have one of the worst units in the league.
All because a set of players on defense don’t play well nor do they play consistently.
Just freekn average…instead…another bottom 5 effort…an effort so bad that it threatens to cost this team a playoff berth
December 4th, 2011 at 3:22 pm
Our big play guys are down…We have those same routes in our arsenal…
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Palmer under threw DHB deep over the middle single coverage.
December 4th, 2011 at 3:23 pm
i also said a month ago that the oline has been regressing for awhile now. we havent run the ball well in the 2nd half of games since the new england game. the chargers game is the only one i can think of that we ran well all game long. we have given up too many pressures and sacks. they are getting exposed as we go up against faster and physical defenses. this is why dmc is so important. he doesnt need the oline to dominate to get yards. bush needs this line to be perfect. dmc covered up alot of shortcomings on the line. we really need to get healthy to make it easy on us.
December 4th, 2011 at 3:23 pm
thats how stupid these guys are in here mayne. they think some scrub off the street will just come in here and light it up. be damned that we may get these guys back in a week. thats why i just chill out from here more often. they scream super bowl when we win and cry when we lose. im with u about green bay.we will win and win out the rest of the way. fugg this punk sh!t.
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Truth…
December 4th, 2011 at 3:24 pm
Thec07 Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 3:04 pm
Raiders put a lot of trust in Seymour, Kelly, Wimbley and Routt..gotta say they’ve disappointed so far
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Truth…. A very poor return on investment…
With the money we spend on the D it should be top 5.
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Like what’s the sense in having a fleet of exotic cars and give all the keys to your drunk uncle who never finished high school.
December 4th, 2011 at 3:25 pm
Armond,
DMAC is what he is. He’ll give this franchise about 8 healthy games per year.
The Raiders are going to have to find another backup/starter capable guy in free agency this spring.
DMAC is injury proned. Period. Big bet to hope this isn’t a regular occurance.
Hue needs to plan for this eventuality
December 4th, 2011 at 3:27 pm
This wasn’t ” just a loss”… It was the pi$$ poor effort the whole team gave in losing….
December 4th, 2011 at 3:27 pm
True SnB,
I’ve been saying for years that the 4-3 man to man D is the most expensive defense to run. Need 11 above average players, and that costs.
December 4th, 2011 at 3:28 pm
carson hasnt been sharp the last 2 games. he missed some throws u expect him to make. people claim dhb cant catch the deep ones. we havent thrown a single deep pass this year where he had a clear path to the ball in bounds. he caught a few from jc that took him out of bounds. palmer has laid it out there with a db all over him. dhb had a step on davis and he had to slow down and jump up to catch it. that allowed davis to get his hand in there and knock it away. we arent hitting our wrs in stride downfield enuff.
December 4th, 2011 at 3:28 pm
Well it’s amazing how critical one loss is at this time of the season but it is. All of a sudden things look bleak. We need to regroup and go into green bay and win. It’s possible and the RAIDERS can win that game.donkeys aren’t a lock beat the bears anyway
GO RAIDERS!
KEEP FIGHTING!
December 4th, 2011 at 3:29 pm
Watching Green Bay dismantle the Giants in NY makes me ask just how can we expect the Raiders to get anywhere close against the Packers? The Raiders best chances will be against KC and SD, even Detroit at home looks tough. Cork is calling it 9-7, 2-2 the rest of the way, which will be an improvement from last year, but I doubt if it will make the playoffs.
I am still waiting for the team HueJax promised would show up some day and play a full game, show championship character, pride and poise.
December 4th, 2011 at 3:29 pm
The Vikings had a game where they ” just lost”… But they lost Their game with a good effort and were in the game to the end…. Our loss was not ” just a loss”..
December 4th, 2011 at 3:30 pm
3-4 zone d’s are littered with average “system” LBers that play up to the system. Zone corners also much cheaper and better ROI for the results.
December 4th, 2011 at 3:30 pm
Routt was junk today…. Horrible…
December 4th, 2011 at 3:32 pm
GB dismantling NYG.Wow,you must be watching a different game.
December 4th, 2011 at 3:34 pm
Dang niners showing how D should be played. Fangio, old 3-4 Ravens coach.
December 4th, 2011 at 3:36 pm
83.SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 3:25 pm
Armond,
DMAC is what he is. He’ll give this franchise about 8 healthy games per year.
The Raiders are going to have to find another backup/starter capable guy in free agency this spring.
DMAC is injury proned. Period. Big bet to hope this isn’t a regular occurance.
Hue needs to plan for this eventuality
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first off u need to stop lying. dmc has never played less than 11 games in a season which was his rookie year. he played in 13 the last 2 years. i find it funny u now want another rb outside of bush who you have always said we need to resign. your arguments throw more changeups than greg maddux use to. u do this every year speaking out of both sides of your mouth.the defense stinks but the oline is the main concern. our offense was suppose to be the stregnth yet we havent really exploded thru 12 games.
December 4th, 2011 at 3:37 pm
How are we to play vs The Pack with a piss poor secondary and The Crips still on the injury report? I wanna be positive but how do we do it? Get someone to kidnap Rodgers and hold him hostage for a day?
December 4th, 2011 at 3:38 pm
autopalm77 Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 3:20 pm
Welcome LA_Rayduh…..AP77….
Good lookin’ out AP77
December 4th, 2011 at 3:38 pm
Thec07 Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 2:21 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 2:18 pm
The Broncos Vikings game was fixed. I’m not joking.
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Over under on how much ponder was paid???
500,000
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I don’t even think it had to be Ponder. I think it was someone in the secondary. Three separate times the cornerback quit covering the receiver as if he was looking for help from someone else.
The commentators kept commenting about it because it was completely inexplicable the way it was taking place. And it kept happening at the most inoppurtune times when normally, after doing it once or twice, the defender should have been especially attentive to that.
It was very eerie and strange to say the least.
December 4th, 2011 at 3:39 pm
hue finger fcked our roster depth. bruce davis II and Hagan could of been starting games at this point. we have 4 tight ends. and only 4 LBs. something is deeply wrong with ignoring that.
December 4th, 2011 at 3:39 pm
They Raiders did plan for McFadden missing games-they drafted T.Jones to do pretty much the same thing.The problem is he is also injured.
December 4th, 2011 at 3:39 pm
” Cork is calling 9 & 7……”…. How is it possible to make anykind of call on the Raiders?…. After 12 weeks I couldn’t possibly tell anybody who the Raiders can beat… How do you judge….. The Raiders have Zero identidy… Sure isn’t anykind of a bully…
December 4th, 2011 at 3:39 pm
True enough about the scheme…and what you are saying Alex seems to make sense.
But to me this is also about the “big 4″ on defense just making plays. They shouldn’t be getting pushed around by 3-8 teams playing out the string.
They also have a good supporting cast with Curry, Houston, Bryant, Branch and Huff.
This defense, d&mn the scheme, should not be among the 5 worst in the NFL.
Can Chucky scheme up a couple of plays to get Wimbley on the QB?….can he do something to protect the CB opposite Routt.
And quite frankly, Sey, Kelly, Routt and Wimbley just need to use their athleticism and just beat their guy.
The Raiders could cut all 4 and not see that much of a drop off.
Just like Nnamdi….no difference makers.
The best defensive player right now is Tyvon Branch
December 4th, 2011 at 3:39 pm
Both d and o lines were handled pretty well today.Defensively we got no push and were dominated. Offensively Palmer just didn’t have time to throw and the running game was stuffed.
It was disappointing to lose like that but we have to shake it off and prepare for green bay and move on
packers can be beat
code black
December 4th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
We need to get Moore, Ford, and Dmac back.
We don’t have much on offense without them.
December 4th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
Well, those are corners on a terrible team. What do you expect.
December 4th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
“It’s likely that Jackson heard something in McClain’s account that led him to believe McClain isn’t guilty as charged.”
I don’t believe this for a second. Oh, yeah, Jackson (and 100% of NFL coaches whose teams are not virtually assured a play-off spot), will say McClain’s side of the story gave him pause…or that his “remorse” gave him pause, but what gave Jackson pause was that he has no apt sub for middle linebacker.
NFL coaches are the same coaches who baby these idiots through college.
December 4th, 2011 at 3:41 pm
I wish Palmer would call out Seymour this week to show some damn leadership to that defense that looks up to him.
December 4th, 2011 at 3:42 pm
Huff is not overpaid, I believe he is only guaranteed 16 million of his 4 year contract. I believe we have some solid players, we just need a better d coordinator. Line backers should not be covering WR. It seems like our corners and backers are set up to fail. Really five safties in on 4 to 5 WR sets, ridicules. Our line backers are not corners, so don’t have them consistently guarding Reicevers Chuck.
I’m not on the fire Hue bus. He has done a good job with all that has gone on. You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make it drink. Hue can coach till he is blue in the face, but these players have to sac up and play with some pride. Our dline is hit and miss. Some games there unblockable, and some games they decide not to show up. Come on you guys get played millions to play a game, so don’t take plays off, if I was a football player I would be focused on nothing but football. Not on visiting family during the week like Seymore does. It seems like these players heads aren’t in the game. If you aient down to give it all on the field step the Hell on.
I’m reminded of what singletary said when he benched Vernon Davis. Is rather play with 10 players and get beat everyplay then play with 11 who give no effort. I can handle a loss but what I can’t stand is poor effort, dumb false start penalties (Barnes), I mean any body with eyes could see we didn’t come to play.
My suggestion to Hue is to still try to get this team to the playoffs but along with that is he needs to find out which players he wants to keep around. Which ones fit his bully vision. I know Hue will bring his own d coordinator next year, now see which players on defense are worth bring back. If this game isn’t a gut check for this team I don’t know what is.
December 4th, 2011 at 3:44 pm
Scheme makes the D, SnB.
25 years ago, in Davis’s heyday, talent trumped.
Today, it’s all chess, all x’s and o’s, and our D coordinator plays checkers.
December 4th, 2011 at 3:45 pm
Armond,
DMAC is averaging 9 carries a game over 4 years if you take into consideration games missed.
As for Michael Bush. He can’t pass protect. You can’t pay big money for that.
December 4th, 2011 at 3:45 pm
We’re the Raiders ready today?….. nope…
Are the Raiders talented?… Couldn’t tell ya…. You’d think after 12 games we’d have a good idea how this team plays…….. I didn’t see a Raider team on the field today… Who can the Raiders beat?.. Don’t know..
December 4th, 2011 at 3:46 pm
Need to watch the Packers/Giant – the Giant play football like the Raiders do.
December 4th, 2011 at 3:46 pm
Please explain to me how Seymour is supposed to be the leader when he has spent more time in Massachusetts during the weeks of practice this year than he has spent in California…He is excused from practice every week and there is a double standard for him and its an instance that should not be allowed to occur, yet it has……ALL YEAR….
December 4th, 2011 at 3:47 pm
Hue will dig into his Ravens connection and get us a legit D coordinator this offseason.
December 4th, 2011 at 3:48 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 3:25 pm
Armond,
DMAC is what he is. He’ll give this franchise about 8 healthy games per year.
The Raiders are going to have to find another backup/starter capable guy in free agency this spring.
DMAC is injury proned. Period. Big bet to hope this isn’t a regular occurance.
Hue needs to plan for this eventuality
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I thought they had a plan in place when they drafted T. Branch, but he turned out to be injured too. Do yall think its something with the training staff? All of our players, including some of the big uglies have knee/hammy/foot injuries every year. All of our explosive players this year have been hammed up. SnB is it me? Or does our offense seem less creative with ball control type players i.e. Bush, Chaz, DHB…we have no explosive players with a QB that does well with an open playbook…in 5 games he has 1500 yards passing!!! Without DMC in all 5, Moore in 3, and Ford in 3.5
December 4th, 2011 at 3:49 pm
AP,
We know seymour didn’t want to come here. Most logical fans don’t view him as anything but a wasted 1st rounder.
December 4th, 2011 at 3:50 pm
I will never give up on my Raiders but just as evil thoughts creep through your mind once in a while, I have these evil thoughs of myself saying “Wait til next year.” And it feels like i just finished telling all my buddies that chit after the Cable firing.
December 4th, 2011 at 3:50 pm
I thought they had a plan in place when they drafted T. Branch…Ish I meant T. Jones BKA Hurricane Jones!!!
December 4th, 2011 at 3:52 pm
alex7 Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 3:47 pm
Hue will dig into his Ravens connection and get us a legit D coordinator this offseason.
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He tried and Pagano turned us down.
December 4th, 2011 at 3:53 pm
111.Raiderbuck Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 3:46 pm
Need to watch the Packers/Giant – the Giant play football like the Raiders do.
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Gotta agree. The Giants looked totally outplayed and outcoached last week. And clueless about how to do anything about it.
Of course, can’t see what’s to be learned about the Packers from that!!!
December 4th, 2011 at 3:53 pm
fingers Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 3:45 pm
We’re the Raiders ready today?….. nope…
Are the Raiders talented?… Couldn’t tell ya…. You’d think after 12 games we’d have a good idea how this team plays…….. I didn’t see a Raider team on the field today… Who can the Raiders beat?.. Don’t know..
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Maybe we can play LSU for BCS Title.
December 4th, 2011 at 3:54 pm
504
Everyone turned us down when Davis ran the D.
Little different opportunity now.
December 4th, 2011 at 3:54 pm
I don’t know if Taiwan Jones will be that solid number 2 guy. Can he stand in there and pass protect for what will be a pass 1st offense going forward.
I think Marcel Reece might be able to fill that role next year. He hits the hole and his blocking is better and he isn’t going to be expensive.
December 4th, 2011 at 3:55 pm
alex7 Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 3:54 pm
504
Everyone turned us down when Davis ran the D.
Little different opportunity now.
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Even free agents!
December 4th, 2011 at 3:55 pm
Hue Jackson set the tone of this game by throwing the ball. Michael Bush had 10 carries. 10! He didn’t do what the strenth of this team is about. Run Run Run!
December 4th, 2011 at 3:56 pm
504…I wonder if we could best LSU?… I couldn’t tell you…
December 4th, 2011 at 3:56 pm
40 percent of our offensive yards is injured.
the most important part of our season from here on out is the injury report.
Face it.
December 4th, 2011 at 3:57 pm
76.alex7 Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 3:22 pm
Goodol,
This team has struggled vs the run for two decades, maintaining same D philosophy. You think those struggles are a coincidence, or the fault of the one and only constant in the equation?
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Hes dead. So is his philosophy. Chuck B has been running a “modern” D scheme and were still in the cellar, so again, no. I do not think Al was to blame.
December 4th, 2011 at 3:57 pm
Alex, that may or may nor be true, but its not a contributing factor to the question that needs to be asked…When you see a game plan that was called and executed like todays, questions need to be asked about what transpired during the week….As far as preparation is concerned, I don’t see how you can think anything other than booze and strippers for all….Todays effort was an EGG…And I don’t want to hear about McClain as he played hard today….He and Branch were about the only 2 players defensively who showed up today….Questions need to be asked and ANSWERED…..!!!!
December 4th, 2011 at 3:58 pm
Hes dead. So is his philosophy. Chuck B has been running a “modern” D scheme and were still in the cellar, so again, no. I do not think Al was to blame.
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We are still using Al’s players, who he payed a lot of money to. This is still very much Davis’ defense.
December 4th, 2011 at 3:59 pm
I’m an athlete myself, and been playing sports damn near my whole life. And I was never high on guys who had legs that look like inverted parentheses. And Seymour has legs like that.
Could explain why he has to play with his hands and arms so much.
December 4th, 2011 at 3:59 pm
too little too late. The Raiders didn’t show when it mattered most. end of story.
December 4th, 2011 at 4:00 pm
115.alex7 Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 3:49 pm
AP,
We know seymour didn’t want to come here. Most logical fans don’t view him as anything but a wasted 1st rounder.
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You don’t know what you’re talking about.
Most people with a brain know Seymour’s addition was crucially important to turning Oaklands loser locker room mwntality.
That alone was worth the 1st rounder especailly when you consider how many of them have sucked.
Russell, Bey, McClain so far…
December 4th, 2011 at 4:02 pm
we didnt run cuz we couldnt. the oline got dominated again.
December 4th, 2011 at 4:03 pm
I think DHB has developed nicely. He’s turned it around this year and is making plays.
When the opponents start respecting DHB’s short game more…then the deep plays will open up.
DHB and Schilens played well today and they were prepared to win.
Khalif Barnes and his bullsh&t holding and false starts cratered the offense from jump
December 4th, 2011 at 4:03 pm
fingers Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 3:56 pm
504…I wonder if we could best LSU?… I couldn’t tell you…
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Our offense is better. LSU defense is better. Both Coaches gamble with play-calls. Would probably be a decent game.
A damn shame to even say that though.
December 4th, 2011 at 4:04 pm
129. Take your ****ing pick then. Which is it? Scheme or players?
If its sucked for 20 yrs u can bet your *** its not the players.
And if its not the players its the scheme but the scheme is diverse now so its the players Davis picked who couldn’t stop the run all these years?
How many 1st rounders on that D?
I don’t know what it is or why we always lead in stupid penalties. Its the Raiders.
It just is.
December 4th, 2011 at 4:05 pm
Seymour’s to injured to practice… But hes capable of throwing punches and collecting personal fouls that get him ejected ….frustration galore …
December 4th, 2011 at 4:06 pm
If Barksdale and Campbell work out next year, we’ll be ok, better than this year. If they don’t, we’re in trouble without the draft picks.
December 4th, 2011 at 4:06 pm
I question everything.
this team is always up and down.
but the injury list, its the sign that we need guys back. now.
December 4th, 2011 at 4:07 pm
Look, the fact of the matter is this Raiders team is good with very dangerous weapons on offense when everybody is healthy. BUT, this team is not great enough to overcome injuries like some of the top tier NFL teams with veteran coaching staffs and tons of depth.
Carson Palmer took some time to get timing down with the offense and now he’s playing with 2nd string receivers away from DHB. Its getting a little too late for a team to still be trying to figure things out.
Special teams, obviously effected by injuries. Kickers are the only bright spot.
Defense. Simple. Always getting out coached, so unless the other team is missing a key player or we are getting great pressure on the QB, our offense will need to manage the clock and score points to pick up their slack.
And simply, when Hue gives up on the run at the beginning of a game, he digs a giant hole for everybody. We got some decent yardage on reverses and some other runs but Hue had already dug that hole.
December 4th, 2011 at 4:07 pm
It’s easy to say we were missing this guy or that guy…It’s easy to say the penalties….It’s easy to single some aspect of the game out…Those are all excuses….There is an attitudinal problem with this team and it starts and stops with preparation…ANSWERS…..
December 4th, 2011 at 4:07 pm
i’d rather go with heyer or barskdale for another year. and campbell is an athlete not a fotball player. honestly i think we could use him on the d-line
December 4th, 2011 at 4:08 pm
ginats d line is nasty
canty. toleffson, peirre-paul, tuck …… scary group.
December 4th, 2011 at 4:09 pm
Good Ol,
surely you know you can’t successfully change a scheme midway through the year.
December 4th, 2011 at 4:09 pm
138. We’ll get some compensatory picks good for 2nd day line help.
December 4th, 2011 at 4:10 pm
Worse nightmare….The Donkeys passing us…
Sick just thinking about…..I still havent recovered from the home loss to the Donks…
December 4th, 2011 at 4:10 pm
And guess what…..THE FANS CAN’T GET ANSWERS….
December 4th, 2011 at 4:11 pm
fingers Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 4:05 pm
Seymour’s to injured to practice… But hes capable of throwing punches and collecting personal fouls that get him ejected ….frustration galore …
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His weekly exercise consists of reaching down to take off and then put back on his shoes at the airport security check.
December 4th, 2011 at 4:11 pm
- So very disappointed in the effort today. Dolphins dominated both lines, just like last year. Oline has taken a step back since SD game. Dline plays well every other game…not enough.
– I though Chuck B was crap today. Runs blitzes at horrible times with guys who can’t blitz (Routt!), Has LB’s covering WR on 3rd down in redzone, middle of the field is wide open constantly and once again the QB runs for first downs whenever he wants. Our D was not good last year, but was ranked 11th and was not so undisciplined and downright stupid. We NEED a real D coordinator, one who can teach this talent to get better.
– Injuries finally caught up to our O. Next man up only works for so long. Without Dmac, Ford, Moore there is no explosion and team is doomed.
– Still in the hunt, but the Tebows look unbeatable right now. Raiders need to play at their peak which they have not all year. It will be tough to secure a playoff spot, but Raiders are still in it, keep the faith.
One Nation Baby…
December 4th, 2011 at 4:13 pm
Wow, 49ers haven’t allowed rushing td in 12 straight games.
Difference? D coordinator.
December 4th, 2011 at 4:13 pm
144. Surely I have no clue what the **** you’re on bout. What an idiot.
Why not try reading what Jerry and Steve write on occasion instead of jumping on here and making an azz of yourself?
Chuck B has been running the D HIS way since the old man passed. Lots more blitzes soon after and lots more zone.
Inujuries playing a large part too.
DE Moss is out, Seymour with a bum knee, Kelly with a bad toe and Shaughnessy was a massive loss at RDE when he was setting the edge and developing into a 3 down pass rush threat.
Can’t change the D? They do it every week.
December 4th, 2011 at 4:14 pm
150. Idiot.
Difference?
PATRICK WILLIS
December 4th, 2011 at 4:15 pm
“At the end of the day,” Jackson said, “there’s no question that he knows I’m disappointed with some things that occurred. And I will take care of that in-house.”
Read more: Jackson explains decision to let McClain play
Tune to SportsNet Central at 6, 10:30 and midnight on Comcast SportsNet Bay Area for more on this story
THEN HE SAYS THIS …..
“If the league comes down on him,” Jackson said, “then I’m going to come down on him like you’ve never seen.”
December 4th, 2011 at 4:16 pm
Lol, didn’t know willis was a rookie and not around last year.
Nerd.
December 4th, 2011 at 4:16 pm
Okay, I’m out for a bit. Need to find my zen and tolerance for those today without reasoning power
December 4th, 2011 at 4:17 pm
Don’t know if anyone’s ask this yet…. But does anyone think the McClain incident was a distraction?…… As soon as the game started the Raiders fans here sensed the team wasn’t on the same page….nothing looked or felt right…..I’m not blaming McClain , Just like to know what ya”ll thought..
December 4th, 2011 at 4:18 pm
btw, RMR, I know Alex7 is one of your old trolling names.
So terribly sad.
Hope you enjoyed “annoying” me.
tsk, tsk…just…wow dude.
December 4th, 2011 at 4:18 pm
Was McClain a distraction?
December 4th, 2011 at 4:18 pm
GoodOle00 Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 4:16 pm
Okay, I’m out for a bit. Need to find my zen and tolerance for those today without reasoning power
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What do you expect from alias?
December 4th, 2011 at 4:19 pm
Dang Good Ole,
You are struggling. You honestly think you can turn a defensive philosophy in a few weeks?? When it’s been run for 4 decades?? WOW
December 4th, 2011 at 4:19 pm
156. can’t blame McClain for everyones **** play. Dolphins were good but YES it completely was.
McClain got wrapped up in some old school thug life and f’ed his team.
Whether he did anything or not it blew our chemistry and was a massive distraction.
Hateful
December 4th, 2011 at 4:20 pm
If we had more good LB’s then I doubt McClain would have been much of anything.
December 4th, 2011 at 4:21 pm
159.
Peace!~
Thought I’d throw him a bone like the dog he is. “oh! darn it all Alex7! You’re makiong me so mad you idiot!” *shakes fist* d’oh!
December 4th, 2011 at 4:21 pm
I hope they had a good time in South Beach last night. I hope it was worth this embarrassing loss.
December 4th, 2011 at 4:21 pm
Raiders, with better D coordinator, can have top 10 D with this talent.
See Wade Phillips turnaround, Houston Texans.
December 4th, 2011 at 4:22 pm
Was Curry at MLB because of McClain? That would be the answer.
December 4th, 2011 at 4:22 pm
raiderinparadise Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 4:15 pm
THEN HE SAYS THIS …..
“If the league comes down on him,” Jackson said, “then I’m going to come down on him like you’ve never seen.”
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Haha, wow. “Rolando, I am so going to come down on you if the league comes down on you.”
Is that like, I support you until the league doesn’t?
True leadership there…
December 4th, 2011 at 4:22 pm
MIAMI — Three Raiders did not finish their 34-14 loss to Miami due to injury.
Tight end Kevin Boss, who was targeted five times and had one catch for eight yards, left with a hip pointer.
Receiver Chaz Schilens, who caught six of the seven balls thrown his way for 89 yards, had a foot injury.
And defensive tackle John Henderson, who had a season-high seven tackles and a quarterback hit, tweaked a knee.
Read more: Raiders injury updates
Tune to SportsNet Central at 6, 10:30 and midnight on Comcast SportsNet Bay Area for more on this story
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Injuries just keep piling up.
Beginning to think this team is doomed.
December 4th, 2011 at 4:23 pm
Fingers I was at the game…McClain missed a few snaps early…He played hard all game…To say it was a distraction during the week has to be accurate…That should have been overcome with desire and effort by others from top to bottom…That was not the case today…They were mauled at the line of scrimmage and that is a testimony to attitude…Todays effort had nothing to do with what happened during the week…It was about the effort today…..!!!!
December 4th, 2011 at 4:24 pm
Receiver Chaz Schilens, who caught six of the seven balls thrown his way for 89 yards, had a foot injury.
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Stop me if you’ve heard this one before.
December 4th, 2011 at 4:24 pm
UNBELIEVABLE….more injuries
December 4th, 2011 at 4:25 pm
Don’t worry wasbanned,
According to Good Ol, we can adjust our entire historical D philosophy in a week and adjust for injuries.
December 4th, 2011 at 4:25 pm
Is that like, I support you until the league doesn’t?
True leadership there…
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No,it says I support you until I find out what you told me is BS,then you will pay.
December 4th, 2011 at 4:27 pm
2romes Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 4:21 pm
The Raiders state they don’t know what happened after this loss but it would comfort me alot more if the coaches know how the Raiders were blown out by the 3rd quater!!!!!It would be sickening not to now how you got smeared all over the football field. First, there are more strenghts on this team that are underutilized or not utilitized at all. second, the game plan should adapt from game to game. On defense I only saw this type of flexiblity when they decided to challenge the receiver and backs right off the line so the D backs knew who was covering who. The technique to cover the middle of the field stinks and every NFL team that looks at the Raiders on this aspect alone has the advantage.If the D back don’t know what part of the field to cover they are covering the whole field ,disadvantage Raiders. Most of the picks have been on the edges. If there is a man to man scheme there should should always be a quick presents to cover the short field especially with a QB That runs. Why do most punits in those situation say all the Raiders DB have there backs turned? When the steelers decide to play man to man coverage there is an imphasis on quick support relayed to the short field. If there is not quick support in the man to man scheme it is a disadvantage. The Raiders time after time don’t get it and many goods teams do.
Today the Bullies got Bullied. That means a different game plan was needed. Guess what, the game plan wasn’t there. Use EVERY player to your advantage that is what they are there for. Your think the Raiders and win many game with 3 tight ends often playing in the game? Can the Raiders find someone on offensive an have them play at a high level on defense?
In the last year I’ve seen an improvement on offensive. If the defensive side don’t know how this game an other are being lost that a freaking shame.The defense needs to start by winnng one game by themselves without much help from the offensive like many good teams do. Bottom line the whole team must get better but if the defense cannot figure things out all is lost this season.
December 4th, 2011 at 4:28 pm
Exactly lefty.
December 4th, 2011 at 4:28 pm
Henderson’s injury is the only one that will have an impact on week 14……
December 4th, 2011 at 4:29 pm
The most pathetic performance i’ve seen in a while.
Did they even game plan and practice this past week?
All games in December seperate the men from boys.
The game was lost in the trenches along with more BS penalties. No heat on Moore and our Oline looked lost.
The only players that showed up in Miami were Lechler, Myers, DHB and Chaz.
They need to play with more passion next week, cause the players looked like they mailed it in today.
Also Chuckie B needs to go the day after our season ends. $ shouldn’t be an issue now to bring in a good D coordinator.
December 4th, 2011 at 4:30 pm
Yikes, picturing jordy nelson, james jones, finley, and jennings vs our #3 and 4 dbs.
December 4th, 2011 at 4:31 pm
Henderson played hard, as well today, all the while playing on one leg…..
December 4th, 2011 at 4:32 pm
silverback Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 4:24 pm
Receiver Chaz Schilens, who caught six of the seven balls thrown his way for 89 yards, had a foot injury.
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Stop me if you’ve heard this one before.
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The kid has injury problems with his foot. His injury history has cost him a shot at being an NFL starter.
Some guys heal and break differently.
I hope that DMAC’s foot isn’t in the same class as Chaz
December 4th, 2011 at 4:33 pm
Deja,
Remember when we hired chuck and only gave him title of coach, then d coordinators turned us down? That was funny.
December 4th, 2011 at 4:34 pm
Roethlisberger is one ugly dude…who told him to wear that hat?
December 4th, 2011 at 4:37 pm
Auto…I agree…it was a poor effort .. McClain or not… Oline and Dlines especially pitiful today… I can’t fault Palmer ..
December 4th, 2011 at 4:38 pm
Alex7,
I thought the reason they didn’t have a label on Chucks postition was because we would hire a coordinator. Like i said, now we shouldn’t be so cheap paying our coaching staff. Huge mistake hiring this guy to run our D.
December 4th, 2011 at 4:39 pm
Lol…Big Ben looked like a Big Dork in that hat..
December 4th, 2011 at 4:39 pm
I hope the Raiders bring at least half as much energy and enthusiasm to the game next week as the giants have today
December 4th, 2011 at 4:40 pm
Coach Hubert is a member of Rev. Napoleon Kaufman’s church. Coach needs to visit his church tonight get on his knees and pray for a miracle. Lord knows we need a miracle to defeat GB next week.
December 4th, 2011 at 4:40 pm
This is gonna be a rough week… Gonna be real hard listening to the NFL media…
December 4th, 2011 at 4:40 pm
Damn,I want GB to win this game.With a win and a Detroit loss,they cinch their division and still have a 2 game lead for home field.
December 4th, 2011 at 4:40 pm
I am pissed that the defense once again did not show up today. Do not understand why CJ37 played in place of Lito Sheppard. CJ sucks and should be released. Routt gets burned way too many times for the money he gets. We should have kept Sterling Moore as undrafted CB, he showed great promise more than our drafted players and we let him slip away. Our secondary looked like they were sitting in the stands somewhere the way they were getting toasted. Should fire that dumb Chuck B tomorrow land not allow that dummy to finish out the season, he looked like a deer caught up in headlights today. As of today we do not hold the lead for the AFC West and I am very pissed especially giving it up for the damn donkies.
December 4th, 2011 at 4:41 pm
This Giants/ Pack game is a good one…
December 4th, 2011 at 4:41 pm
Yeah deja,
Raiders had no one else other than chuck that would TAKE the job. sad.
December 4th, 2011 at 4:42 pm
fingers Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 4:39 pm
Lol…Big Ben looked like a Big Dork in that hat..
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lol…He sure did Fingers.
December 4th, 2011 at 4:43 pm
When DHB masters his route running moves like Jordy Nelson just did on that pass play…his game will open up big time
December 4th, 2011 at 4:44 pm
You mean the same Sterling Moore who was at home watching NFL football on TV this week.
December 4th, 2011 at 4:44 pm
darn, packers 12-0
December 4th, 2011 at 4:45 pm
Just watched the Green Bay game…
I’m afraid… very afraid.
December 4th, 2011 at 4:46 pm
The Packers may not prepare for my Raiders. I hope they don’t and maybe we will surprise them.
December 4th, 2011 at 4:46 pm
fingers Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 4:40 pm
This is gonna be a rough week… Gonna be real hard listening to the NFL media…
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Hopefully the Raiders aren’t listening to the media and just hunker down and take care of business. Refocus
December 4th, 2011 at 4:46 pm
Goldie,better than being 11-1 and needing wins to keep home field advantage.
December 4th, 2011 at 4:48 pm
I don’t think DHB has the fluid quickness to ever become a top route-runner.
December 4th, 2011 at 4:48 pm
The kid has injury problems with his foot. His injury history has cost him a shot at being an NFL starter.
Some guys heal and break differently.
I hope that DMAC’s foot isn’t in the same class as Chaz
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I was thinking specifically of Schilens.
December 4th, 2011 at 4:50 pm
lol Goldie.
The Packers coaching staff is too good not to prepare for a team.
See: 49-23 thumping of the 1 and 2 Denver Broncos week 3.
December 4th, 2011 at 4:50 pm
lefty12 Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 4:46 pm
Goldie,better than being 11-1 and needing wins to keep home field advantage.
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Yep lefty.
December 4th, 2011 at 4:51 pm
Giants needed to run on 1st and goal from the 3 to milk the clock down.
Coughlin needs to play more madden.
December 4th, 2011 at 4:51 pm
Thec07 Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 2:39 pm
Lefty12 Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 2:36 pm
Damn,Thec,they are just standing on the corner waiting for the chance.
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Left I may show up at Alemeda, and see if they try me out at MLB….lol
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How you going to show up if you can’t even spell Alameda?
December 4th, 2011 at 4:52 pm
ha, Giants went 1-deep safety vs Packers 3-wide. ????
30 yard catch by Jordy Nelson that helped them win.
December 4th, 2011 at 4:53 pm
For those of you who want Bresnahan fired tomorrow can you at least please make some valid points as to why. Instead of just saying he sucks.
Thank you.
December 4th, 2011 at 4:53 pm
alex7 Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 4:50 pm
lol Goldie.
The Packers coaching staff is too good not to prepare for a team.
See: 49-23 thumping of the 1 and 2 Denver Broncos week 3.
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lol….Well Alex, I’m trying to visual a win for our Raiders. We need all the help we can muster up. We need a Super Natural Miracle next week.
December 4th, 2011 at 4:53 pm
good thing we selected Fabian Washington instead of this Aaron Rodgers kid.
December 4th, 2011 at 4:54 pm
People need to stop acting like pansies and take the needle. This us the NFL so act like it and get on the field.
December 4th, 2011 at 4:54 pm
Sorry about the Prediction Board. I was pretty sick this AM plus I received a bit of bad news. I will get things together later and post the winner.
Then I will post my football holiday story.
December 4th, 2011 at 4:54 pm
Raiders For Life
Chuck was terrible as D-Coordinator at Cincy.
Once he left, Bengals D became formidable.
December 4th, 2011 at 4:55 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 4:39 pm
I hope the Raiders bring at least half as much energy and enthusiasm to the game next week as the giants have today.
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The defensive have blown coverages from the basic of basic offenses. How will they match an offensive of GB with their defense to give the Raiders a chance to stay in the game until the 4th quarter. let’s see if the defense of coordinator an the defense will get the Raiders that chance. I have not seen the Raiders D win a game yet. I only seen them blow leads and make game closer than they should be.
December 4th, 2011 at 4:55 pm
If Chuck B decides to play Gio, Huff, Mitchell, and Branch at the same time against GB next week, our offense better be prepared to put up 40 pts.
December 4th, 2011 at 4:56 pm
So, if you can score 40 points, Green Bay can be defeated.
December 4th, 2011 at 4:56 pm
Chuck wasn’t hired to be a D-coordinator here, but was given the job when no one else wanted it.
We can do better.
Hue can hire someone better.
December 4th, 2011 at 4:57 pm
Tied my a$$. We are in 2nd place and not in a good position for making the playoffs.
Our guys should all go put their dresses on. We got beat up on every measurable/item/individual. Both of our lines were owned for 4 quarters. Bush should be embarrassed. Boss was a real disappointment. DHB made a few catches but he can’t do it on his own. Murphy is not worth keeping. He plays looking for penalties rather than making catches. He’s not fighting for the ball at all.
And now the grades:
• Offensive line play F
• Running game F-
• Passing game D-
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December 4th, 2011 at 4:58 pm
2romes
to be fair, Raiders D was huge at Texans and vs Chargers. Cheap SD td on double-team in end zone.
December 4th, 2011 at 4:58 pm
J Hill,I doubt it matters who we put out there,we still better be prepared to score 40 pts.
December 4th, 2011 at 4:58 pm
Is there a cross posting troll here at this time?
December 4th, 2011 at 4:58 pm
Hue can hire someone better.
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We need to hire a GM first and foremost.
December 4th, 2011 at 4:58 pm
Hey J….I think our O better be prepared to put up 60 points.
December 4th, 2011 at 4:59 pm
alex7 Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 4:21 pm
Raiders, with better D coordinator, can have top 10 D with this talent.
See Wade Phillips turnaround, Houston Texans.
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Agreed, Bresh is 1 and done…
December 4th, 2011 at 4:59 pm
Denarius Thomas will be the AFC West’s best WR next season.
December 4th, 2011 at 4:59 pm
Can we finnally stop the long runs by the QB????
December 4th, 2011 at 5:02 pm
If we get a Miracle win next week and the Broncos lose, then I’ll feel better.
December 4th, 2011 at 5:03 pm
Lefty,
I think if we play a traditional nickle and dime coverage, we can play with GB. Routt, CJ37, Lito, and DVD should be on the field against these WRs with Branch and Huff at S.
Branch should be covering the TEs, not Curry or Wimbley.
December 4th, 2011 at 5:04 pm
alex7 Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 4:59 pm
Denarius Thomas will be the AFC West’s best WR next season.
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Nope, that will either be DMO, or JFORD…
December 4th, 2011 at 5:04 pm
Raiders, with better D coordinator, can have top 10 D with this talent.
See Wade Phillips turnaround, Houston Texans.
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Agreed!!!!!
December 4th, 2011 at 5:04 pm
Branch should be covering the TEs, not Curry or Wimbley.
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Truth, as both are horrible in coverage…
December 4th, 2011 at 5:04 pm
Stanford Routt gonna have to become big-time here!
He’s going to get Jennings and Calvin Johnson. The Raiders HAVE to beat Detroit or GB to have a chance at something more than cleaning out the lockers and press conferences after week 17.
December 4th, 2011 at 5:06 pm
J Hill Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 5:03 pm
Lefty,
I think if we play a traditional nickle and dime coverage, we can play with GB. Routt, CJ37, Lito, and DVD should be on the field against these WRs with Branch and Huff at S.
Branch should be covering the TEs, not Curry or Wimbley.
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Chuck B is too rigid to adjust. Wimbley and Curry are part of the coverage package here….
Although, you would think that Wimbley’s primary job would be rushing the passer
December 4th, 2011 at 5:06 pm
When we beat KC and SD, won’t we have a better division record than the Donkeys????
December 4th, 2011 at 5:06 pm
Alex7, reocnfirming the bet we have. $55 double or nothing.
December 4th, 2011 at 5:06 pm
I’m hoping Coach Hubert didn’t want to show the Packers too many of our weapons. Heck, maybe Coach will surprise us all.
December 4th, 2011 at 5:08 pm
Alex7, Double or nothing the Green Bay game.
December 4th, 2011 at 5:08 pm
Raider pass rush is going to have to be on fire next week. Packers receivers vs. Raider dbs scares me.
December 4th, 2011 at 5:09 pm
231.Thec07 Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 5:04 pm
Branch should be covering the TEs, not Curry or Wimbley.
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Truth, as both are horrible in coverage…
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I’m looking forward to us finally running the 3-4 next year and turning Wimbley and Curry loose from the edge.
December 4th, 2011 at 5:09 pm
J Hill,if KC beats them-yes.Otherwise we’ll have the same division record.I believe right now they are 3-2 and we are 2-2.
December 4th, 2011 at 5:09 pm
In the last 3 seasons, what no-names have rushed for 100 yards vs Raiders?
Ron Dayne
Rashad Jennings
Bernard Scott
Jerome Harrison
Dominic Rhodes
Stevan Ridley (97)
Time for a new D-Coordinator and a 3-4 Defense.
December 4th, 2011 at 5:09 pm
Goldie7 Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 5:06 pm
I’m hoping Coach Hubert didn’t want to show the Packers too many of our weapons. Heck, maybe Coach will surprise us all.
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Yeah, that’s it. Raiders were holding back for the Packer game. Give me a break.
December 4th, 2011 at 5:09 pm
Raider pass rush is going to have to be on fire next week.
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Raiders lack of a pass rush should be a concern…
December 4th, 2011 at 5:10 pm
Yes Thec, double or nothing.
December 4th, 2011 at 5:11 pm
Hey guys, 3 in a row!
http://gifs.gifbin.com/3204840swsw.gif
December 4th, 2011 at 5:11 pm
alex,mr,mrs,you LIKE DHBs hips?you spend a lot of time checkin them out,huh?fug you and all youre handles,pu–y,oh,we know you never show up,so stfu,let real RAIDER fans vent,not interested in youre views
December 4th, 2011 at 5:12 pm
Installing 3-4 doesn’t automatically stop the run. The Raiders just need to get younger at DT, deeper and more talented at LB, and the CBs can’t allow as many backbreaking completions on 3rd down on simple crossing routes.
December 4th, 2011 at 5:13 pm
2012 3-4 front-7
DE Seymour / Houston
DT unknown
DE Shaughnessy / Bryant
OLB Curry
ILB McClain
ILB unknown
OLB Wimbley
That’s legit.
December 4th, 2011 at 5:13 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 5:09 pm
Goldie7 Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 5:06 pm
I’m hoping Coach Hubert didn’t want to show the Packers too many of our weapons. Heck, maybe Coach will surprise us all.
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Yeah, that’s it. Raiders were holding back for the Packer game. Give me a break.
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Don’t ya get it Albert? I’m reaching, I’m giving Coach the benefit of a doubt….that’s what real fans do.
December 4th, 2011 at 5:14 pm
Hendu
the word is “your” views, not “youre.” Youre is a contraction for you are.
December 4th, 2011 at 5:14 pm
#246
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I suspected as much.
December 4th, 2011 at 5:14 pm
A new DC is desperately needed regardless of scheme. But whatever scheme a new DT implements better work with the pieces the Raiders have, because they don’t have a whole lot of draft picks or money to spend in FA.
December 4th, 2011 at 5:14 pm
Goldie, I like your positive outlook
December 4th, 2011 at 5:15 pm
Shaughnessy isn’t a 5-tech by any stretch of the imagination.
December 4th, 2011 at 5:17 pm
2012 3-4 front-7
DE Seymour / Houston
DT unknown
DE Shaughnessy / Bryant
OLB Curry
ILB McClain
ILB unknown
OLB Wimbley
That’s legit.
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legit with 2 unknowns????
RDE – Seymour/Bryant
NT – Henderson/3rd rd pick
LDE – Houston
OLB Wimbley
ILB McClain
ILB Goethel
OLB Curry
Trade Kelly and ShoNasty.
December 4th, 2011 at 5:17 pm
Tied my a$$. We are in 2nd place and not in a good position for making the playoffs.
Our guys should all go put their dresses on. We got beat up on every measurable/item/individual. Both of our lines were owned for 4 quarters. Bush should be embarrassed. Boss was a real disappointment. DHB made a few catches but he can’t do it on his own. Murphy is not worth keeping. He plays looking for penalties rather than making catches. He’s not fighting for the ball at all.
And now the grades:
• Offensive line play F
• Running game F-
• Bush running F
• Bush blocking F-
• Passing game D-
• QB performance D
• TE catching F
• WR catching D
• Defensive line play F-
• LB play F
• DB play D
• ST play D-
• Kicking game D
• PR defense F
• KO defense D
• Play calling D-
• Team preparation F
• Overall team execution F
NOT a pretty picture. Going from 1st place in the Division race to now, maybe out of the playoffs, is NOT what I want to hear. We could easily lose the next 3 games and it’s wait ’till next year. If that’s the case, we really need to revamp our defense by getting a real DC and switching to a 3-4. That will me we need to find 2 key players: a killer LB like Vontase Burfict and a very stout NT. I see the new NT, Kelley & Henderson at NT. Seymour, Shaughnessy, Moss, Houston, Bryant & Scott at DE. AT starting LB I see Curry, Romac, Burfict & Wembley. Backup LB would include Goethal, Groves & Bruce Davis II if he’s around. Blackstone doesn’t impress me. DB’s would be the best of the bunch that we now have. I believe this defensive alignment with the right DC would fix our run defense problems while providing a more vigorous pass rush.
So to sum up our needs for next year, Vontase Burfict and a run stuffing NT.
December 4th, 2011 at 5:19 pm
I think the new DC will being in a couple of “his guys” to fill in along the Oline and backup LB.
December 4th, 2011 at 5:19 pm
Sho’ has the size/strength I want in a 3-4 end. Just my opinion.
December 4th, 2011 at 5:19 pm
I wish we could get Burfict, but no way. He is going in the first round.
December 4th, 2011 at 5:20 pm
alex,i mean mrs,youre right,you are dense,silly one
December 4th, 2011 at 5:20 pm
yes Hill, that’s assumed. If you have 5 out of 7 guys ready, it’s a possible transition.
You can find run-plugging 3-4 DT in the 4th round and lower.
December 4th, 2011 at 5:21 pm
Texans did it while moving their best player to a new position. Turned them into a top-10 unit.
We can/should do it.
December 4th, 2011 at 5:22 pm
V.Burfict-another stupid head case,just what this team needs.Also,there is no guarantee McClain will be on the team next year if the allegations against him prove true.
December 4th, 2011 at 5:23 pm
now trade shawny? damn u guys are ridiculous. we need faster de’s and some more lb’s. we also have to start scoring more td’s. this offense hasnt been what it needs to be all season. switching to a 3-4 doesnt make u better. u need players 1rst. a competent dc would help 2.
December 4th, 2011 at 5:23 pm
208. This is bresnahans second stint as our dq. Why do we want him fired? Let’s see…under this punk our d has been consistently unprepared, out coached,unclutch,unable to make adjustments and unable to stop the run. In either stint. That sum it up for u?
December 4th, 2011 at 5:24 pm
3-4 defense will probably give McClain his best shot at success too.
Finding that run stuffer up the middle won’t be as easy as many think though.
Can Henderson hold up another year?
December 4th, 2011 at 5:24 pm
Theres no way i blame this loss on chuck D are hue. Players played like crap no way around it its that simple people. We in trouble period this loss could of been the downfall of this season. I guess you can say the denver and kc game hurt but not as bad as this. This week is gonna suck. No bspn for me only so much tebow i can take. Last time i checked interception won this game for broncos.
December 4th, 2011 at 5:25 pm
Feel like I make this list EVERY year:
Top NFL D’s
Steelers- 3/4
Ravens- 3/4
Texans – 3/4
49ers – 3/4
Dolphins – 3/4
Packers – 3/4
NOT a coincidence.
December 4th, 2011 at 5:25 pm
This team was mal shapened, I’ll be coached, and the laughing stock of football in the NFL. I’ve been here since 1964, I’ve never been so blindsided. WTF Hue?
December 4th, 2011 at 5:25 pm
If we don’t get healthy, I think the Broncos will win the division.
December 4th, 2011 at 5:26 pm
Well, the NT who dominated the Raiders at the LOS all day today is going to be a free agent after the season. So there’s that…
December 4th, 2011 at 5:26 pm
268.alex7 Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 5:25 pm
Feel like I make this list EVERY year:
Top NFL D’s
Steelers- 3/4
Ravens- 3/4
Texans – 3/4
49ers – 3/4
Dolphins – 3/4
Packers – 3/4
NOT a coincidence.
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Thanks Alex.
December 4th, 2011 at 5:27 pm
armond Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 5:23 pm
now trade shawny? damn u guys are ridiculous. we need faster de’s and some more lb’s. we also have to start scoring more td’s. this offense hasnt been what it needs to be all season. switching to a 3-4 doesnt make u better. u need players 1rst. a competent dc would help 2.
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3-4 or 4-3…get the players to execute the defense properly.
Right now the Raiders are in no-mans land.
December 4th, 2011 at 5:30 pm
215.J Hill Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 4:55 pm
If Chuck B decides to play Gio, Huff, Mitchell, and Branch at the same time against GB next week, our offense better be prepared to put up 40 pts.
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Here is a good example, almost like Marshalls 5 safety defense. This is a valid point and not just saying Bresnahan sucks and the Raiders need a new DC.
December 4th, 2011 at 5:32 pm
The Packers and the Steelers were in the Superbowl last year, and they both run the 3/4 defense.
We should switch next year to the 3/4.
December 4th, 2011 at 5:33 pm
I’ve said it so many times here… you simply cannot count on running the ball well game-in, game-out, no matter how much talent you think you have at the RB position.
Today? Palmer looked uncomfortable. The offensive line struggled. Penalties negated big plays. There were drops in key situations. Schilens put up decent numbers and DHB would have had a good day if it wasn’t for two of his big plays being called back because of penalties, but in the end none of the WRs made plays when they actually counted.
The poor defensive play certainly didn’t help, but they were also on the field for more than 75% of today’s game.
December 4th, 2011 at 5:34 pm
How can we run a 3-4, when we don’t even have enough good lbs to run a 4-3?
December 4th, 2011 at 5:35 pm
The Packers defense isn’t good.They win because their offense outscores everyone.To have any chance against them we have to match them point for point.
December 4th, 2011 at 5:36 pm
265.raiderwarlord Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 5:23 pm
208. This is bresnahans second stint as our dq. Why do we want him fired? Let’s see…under this punk our d has been consistently unprepared, out coached,unclutch,unable to make adjustments and unable to stop the run. In either stint. That sum it up for u?
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I may be wrong but I think during Chuck’s first term with the Raiders he had a top ranked D.
December 4th, 2011 at 5:36 pm
Raider season is most likely over. Came out today and played flat on offense, played flat on defense, and special teams did nothing but support the flat efforts. This has turned out to be the same old song where the team is most likely now to finish 9-7 and play second fiddle to the Broncos who will finish 10-6. Hue Jackson comes out after the game and says it starts with me – and we will get better. The question is when? We have started with positive hopes – but the last 4 losses have been blowouts. Stength in the organization starts with him – and we are getting better, but this is tiring as we continue to drop the ball just as we get close. In past years, when we were terrible, it was easier to digest, now they have relevance and with today’s loss to the dolphins I see our post season chances shattered. Being tied for the top as many half full will see, is nothing more than a facade. The remaining games – @ Green Bay, Lions, @ KC, Chargers vs Broncos Bears (we see how well the did against KC today) NE (a broncos loss), @ Bills (their wheels are falling off), KC for and end of the season spoiler at best. Today was our best chance to start to secure a post season appearance – and we FLAT OUT BLEW IT. Again sorry to the Half Fuller’s out there, but I have been watching this team for far to long to be anything other than a realist at this point.
December 4th, 2011 at 5:38 pm
The defense lives and dies with the contributions of Seymour, Kelly, Wimbley and Routt
December 4th, 2011 at 5:38 pm
Please Hue, just give the injury report now and cut the b.s for GB game.
OUT: Darren McFadden, Jacoby Ford, Denarius Moore, Taiwan Jones.
Thanks. Can we move on now.
December 4th, 2011 at 5:40 pm
NyRaider_justwin Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 5:36 pm
Raider season is most likely over.
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Damn,I hope the coaches and players don’t think like you!
December 4th, 2011 at 5:43 pm
NyRaider-you aren’t a realist.You are a quitter.
December 4th, 2011 at 5:46 pm
djohnnyg Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 5:38 pm
Please Hue, just give the injury report now and cut the b.s for GB game.
OUT: Darren McFadden, Jacoby Ford, Denarius Moore, Taiwan Jones.
Thanks. Can we move on now.
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I think Moore will be back next week as well as Ford.
DMAC might damn well be out for the year.
December 4th, 2011 at 5:47 pm
Does anyone else miss Zack Miller these days?Boss has been a huge disappointment and flat out sucked today.
December 4th, 2011 at 5:47 pm
lefty12 Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 5:43 pm
NyRaider-you aren’t a realist.You are a quitter.
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And you are a blind homer sheep.
December 4th, 2011 at 5:48 pm
# 280.
Spot on. I’m so sick of this crap. They get the Raider Nation’s hopes up and and like clockwork we get what we got today.
This team has really let me down today. I’m very disappointed.
As much as I love and respected Al Davis and feel like we lost an important constant in the “family”, I was under the mistaken thought that things would change; that we wouldn’t see the same old crap: penalties ad nauseum, breakdowns, lack of discipline, and just the plain CHOKING and getting humiliated in games you should win.
Nothing’s changed. Yeah, were better than what we have been in recent history but the same old b.s is still there and Hue has done nothing to change that; despite all his b.s to the contrary.
“It starts with me” Ok, than you SUCK.
Cable was 8-8.
So Hue is one game better. Big freaking whoopidee whoop.
Let down. All I can say.
I am really mad at this team.
You bas..tards.
December 4th, 2011 at 5:50 pm
219.alex7 Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 4:58 pm
2romes
to be fair, Raiders D was huge at Texans and vs Chargers. Cheap SD td on double-team in end zone
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That’s the problem Giving up the cheap stuff. It has been happening all year long. Big leads, small leads it does not matter the defense do not get the lesson being taught.
I don’t believe Chuck B. knows his defense well enough to teach it to his defense. He has not disguised the middle of the field well enough for offenses to stay away as their primary attack in the passing game.It should be one of the most challanging passes because that is where the most defensive bodies are. yet, most of the big plays I can remember are the ones the that
clear out the safeties and linebackers from the middle for touchdowns.
The Problem is the Defense is not evolving, not learning the concepts. Either the player are not teachable or not taught well enough.
I believe it is a combination but put most of the blame on the teacher.
December 4th, 2011 at 5:52 pm
When was the last time you took a stand, Lefty? Actually stood up and demanded better? Ever? Were you always a sheep, or is that something that developed when you got old?
December 4th, 2011 at 5:52 pm
Dj…you saying the Raiders are still a disappointment but a better disappointment ?…ok..I can agree with that….sounds odd but that’s pretty much it..
December 4th, 2011 at 5:52 pm
Yup boss is overrated. Good te makes tough catches. He doesnt.
December 4th, 2011 at 5:53 pm
Monte Poole right on the money again.
“Everybody in the Oakland locker room sprinted away, predictably, from citing the firestorm created by the arrest of linebacker Rolando McClain, a starter and identified leader who not only suited up but played most of the game.”
Hue “it shouldn’t happen, but it happened.” How did Hue Jackson happen? HueJax asked.
Bottom line, it’s obvious that the McClain fiasco just killed this team, how could that be? One young punk ruins it for a whole team and organization, tell me that is not so? What about the Seymour meltdown? How long is it going to take for Big Rich to get it right?
Poole is right, this is the right formula for a losing season, which it could still happen. I get it, when you see a team totally under perform, not just to lose to 3-8 team, but leave their “manhood” on the Sea Life turf. That’s outright cold.
In all respect, I agree with a comment I read here, got to give credit to HueJax, getting 7 wins and tied for first place this late, specially for having to deal with all that has happened in his rookie season. On the other hand, he says a lot of things that he can’t back up. In particular about his responsibility for having the team ready to play every game a full game, building a bully, the time is now, and now with his obvious mishandling of the McClain discipline issue. HueJax is a rookie coach and is over whelmed I understand, but please quit the BS.
December 4th, 2011 at 5:53 pm
Lefty12,I dont think nyraider has followed the RAIDERS as long as some of us,early 60s.The boys must win 3 of the next 4,see where were at,hope thats good enough.Dont count the boys out,RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 4th, 2011 at 5:53 pm
Djohnny-being pissed is one thing.Quitting and giving up hope with 1/4 of the season still left to play is another.
December 4th, 2011 at 5:54 pm
Code black didn’t show up in real but im code blacking on Madden 12 idk how many times I beat Miami already
December 4th, 2011 at 5:55 pm
Alex,
Saints, Lions and Bears all run the 4-3 too.
Of course those teams have strong D-Lines that are physical and play the run
December 4th, 2011 at 5:56 pm
GoodOle00 Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 4:14 pm
150. Idiot.
Difference?
PATRICK WILLIS
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Willis was out the whole game today.
Result? no rushing td’s.
try again, clown.
December 4th, 2011 at 5:56 pm
We get 3 steps forward , then 4 steps back…and today’s loss was ugly …
I had a house full of Raider Fans … And I’d had rather been at the dentist … My dogs are still hiding…
December 4th, 2011 at 5:57 pm
It’s all good though if we don’t beat Enough teams to make the playoffs , we didn’t deserve to go anyways
December 4th, 2011 at 5:58 pm
Our defense needs “The Honey Badger.”
December 4th, 2011 at 5:59 pm
Hendu,I get it that these younger fans haven’t seen a lot of success and always have doubts,so do I,but giving up with 1/4 of the season left when we ARE tied for 1st is not an attitude I can understand or accept.
December 4th, 2011 at 5:59 pm
Code Black will show up next week n dismantle the Packers
December 4th, 2011 at 5:59 pm
aig-raiders Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 5:52 pm
Yup boss is overrated. Good te makes tough catches. He doesnt.
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Boss is good enough and the Raiders had to do something once Miller decided to leave.
Kevin Boss and the Receivers were not the reason for this annual melt-down.
Crap play from O-Line….too many penalties as usual and the worst defensive play in the league led to this debacle
December 4th, 2011 at 6:01 pm
I don’t think they gave up just that mentality needs to change n our needs to play good too n we have to score to win .. Our D is not good enough for being shutout in the first half
December 4th, 2011 at 6:01 pm
I hate the Donks… I’m still sick to my stomach over that home loss to those mules…I can’t even think about them now overtaking us …and the Raiders possibly( probably ) choking away the division…. Rolano., shoot me…
December 4th, 2011 at 6:01 pm
Mr,thanks for the niner update,we can always count on you,niner b oh,post298
December 4th, 2011 at 6:03 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 5:57 pm
It’s all good though if we don’t beat Enough teams to make the playoffs , we didn’t deserve to go anyways
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yep
December 4th, 2011 at 6:03 pm
Hendu,just ignore the a$$hole.
December 4th, 2011 at 6:04 pm
Looks like our 2013 1st round pick is safe. Maybe we can trade it to pick up Vontaze Burfict in next years draft.
What picks do we have left in 2012 & 2013?
December 4th, 2011 at 6:04 pm
You guys take things to extreme everytime, we are tied with them n last 4 games will show whether we are good enough to make playoffs or not
December 4th, 2011 at 6:04 pm
Ill give you several reasons why Chuck B should be replaced.
– Defense has regressed from last year. At least they were middle of the pack now the are at the bottom in yards and points.
– There are consistently guys wide open and blown assignments. The coaching is not getting through to these guys.
– LBs covering WR on 3rd down in redzone.
– Ill timed blitzes that good O coordinators exploit. Why aren’t Branch and Huff getting to the QB like they did last year?
– Young guys regressing a bit like Houston and Mitchell. Coach em up Chuck B!
– Dline sucks at containment and for a month they have been burned by QB scrambles.
– Chuck B deserves to go…we have more talent on D then what the performance shows.
One Nation Baby…
December 4th, 2011 at 6:06 pm
Lefty12,NEVER GIVE UP,and keep the faith,this team has been thru a lot this year,and as you say,FOUR GAMES LEFT,AND THEN SOME! raiders!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 4th, 2011 at 6:06 pm
Either way I rather have this where they have to play with pressure on, it will only make them a better team if they make the playoffs
December 4th, 2011 at 6:08 pm
I hope Chuck B’s 2 yr contract doesn’t get in the way of him getting the ax. If he got demoted it would most likely be to LBs coach and we sure as hell don’t want that.
December 4th, 2011 at 6:08 pm
THere are 4 games to go. Will the defense step up for any one of them?
December 4th, 2011 at 6:09 pm
Example, on defensive, on 3rd and forever. Put and extra safety or extra back, remove the linebacker ,to cover the middle, he sits in the middle or rolls to the middle and converge on the play up front if it happens. Sitting back and not being proactive is not helping the Raiders it is doing the opposite.
December 4th, 2011 at 6:11 pm
One thing for sure is we can’t afford to miss our QB or Middle linebacker for games or large amount of practice time .. N no outside distractions like who will replace JC at QB (KC) game n what will happen to Rolando (today) we just can’t win with distractions period
December 4th, 2011 at 6:12 pm
317,YOURE HIRED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 4th, 2011 at 6:13 pm
Need to play distraction free rest of the year n I don’t think they will come out as flat as they came today against Miami
December 4th, 2011 at 6:14 pm
Bucs DT Brian Price was flagged for unsportsmanlike conduct in Tampa Bay’s loss to the Carolina Panthers. Tampa Bay coach Raheem Morris was so disgusted with the penalty that he didn’t just pull Price from the game. He sent him home.
“Yes, I sent him to the locker room,” Morris said. “I told him go home. [Expletive]. Yeah. Because it’s foolish, it’s selfish to your teammates, to everybody in your organization, to your fans. That’s terrible. That’s just selfish behavior to get a 15-yard penalty, in that situation, when that’s all we talk about, when that’s all we discuss. You just can’t do that to your team … When you give up a penalty, after a third-and-15, those are things that are not smart, not fair to anybody on the football team. Not fair to anybody that’s coaching that football team. Those things are unacceptable.”
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Hue should take notes. LOL!
December 4th, 2011 at 6:14 pm
Raheem Morris sent player home after unsportsmanlike penalty
December 4th, 2011 at 6:15 pm
Code Black
December 4th, 2011 at 6:15 pm
Sean Payton turned over play-calling duties to P Carmichael after the player ran into his knee and he couldn’t get up and down the sideline. And Payton has a big ego as well.
If the same incident was to happen to Hue where a player took his knee out on the sideline, Hue would still be out there on the sideline with that dude with the yellow backwards baseball cap pushing him up and down the sideline in a wheel-chair.
I think Hue maybe needs to let Saunders call plays but not gonna happen.
December 4th, 2011 at 6:19 pm
Now we see why It took Hue much longer to get his first HC job than it did for Raheem Morris.
December 4th, 2011 at 6:20 pm
Well nothing much to write about or discuss about today , they got their ass kicked n Den won to tie with us we’re really disgusted with the performance n just hope they show up rest of the games n atleast pretend they showed up , today they showed up in the 4th quarter maybe next weeks game at 1 pm will sum difference .
Sincerely yours
Code Black
December 4th, 2011 at 6:20 pm
On the bright side here’s what we got going for next year:
• We do have a real franchise QB
• We do have relevant WR’s when they are healthy
• McFadden is real when he’s healthy
• We have the necessary O-line personnel to make a good O-line. We need 3 changes
• we have a unique game changing FB in Reece.
• We do have good prospects for a TE corps
• We still have the BEST punter & kicker in the league
• We do have an excellent assortment of DB’s when they are healthy
• We do have some excellent D-line personnel. Just need to switch to 3-4 and pick up a NT or two
• We do have some talent at LB. Just need more
• Overall, our coaching staff is good & improving. DC is the weak link.
So to sum it up, we are only a couple of players & 1 DC away from being very relevant in this league. we do need to do all we can to keep JC as the back-up QB. Boler is a really bad choice.
December 4th, 2011 at 6:20 pm
Wasbanned Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 6:14 pm
Raheem Morris sent player home after unsportsmanlike penalty
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Was it a fringe guy?
December 4th, 2011 at 6:20 pm
Palmer was terrible again. He has had 5-6 interceptions dropped & 1 called back. So far I don’t see this instant upgrade or elite level qb that bloggers praised so wildly. Did hu buy a lemon?
December 4th, 2011 at 6:21 pm
Yes.. Some of the play calling are real head scratchers … When ya lose you notice that a lot more..
December 4th, 2011 at 6:21 pm
504,Yup,some were saying the same thing,BEFORE THE GAME,Hue,HC Saunders,OC Woodson,DC
December 4th, 2011 at 6:21 pm
Morris isn’t a rookie coach
December 4th, 2011 at 6:23 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 6:20 pm
Palmer was terrible again. He has had 5-6 interceptions dropped & 1 called back. So far I don’t see this instant upgrade or elite level qb that bloggers praised so wildly. Did hu buy a lemon?
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I thought most of the guys here thought Palmer would need a running game.
December 4th, 2011 at 6:23 pm
Raiders 1-8 in the Eastern time zone last two years.
December 4th, 2011 at 6:25 pm
Code black is for reals just didn’t show up today
December 4th, 2011 at 6:26 pm
Kirk,isnt that the truth?I dont have a clue,anyone?
December 4th, 2011 at 6:28 pm
Some of you guys need to control your anger , like seriously you guys want to put Hue in HOF after every win n then call for his head after every game , your not going to win all of the games , give the guy some slack n just wait for judgement till the end of the year ..
December 4th, 2011 at 6:29 pm
silverback Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 6:20 pm
Wasbanned Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 6:14 pm
Raheem Morris sent player home after unsportsmanlike penalty
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Was it a fringe guy?
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I think Price was a high draft pick from UCLA. A DT.
December 4th, 2011 at 6:29 pm
Call for his head after every loss**. ^^^^
December 4th, 2011 at 6:30 pm
Mcfadden20,when YOU show up,a far better team,and DMoore,and Jacoby,gtf out of the way
December 4th, 2011 at 6:31 pm
Code black will make the playoffs ***^^^^
December 4th, 2011 at 6:31 pm
Aig-Raiders Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 10:47 am
Cp3 terrible pass
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Worth reposting because I’m a fakking hypocrite.
December 4th, 2011 at 6:31 pm
Does 3 hours in time diffrence really make that much diffrence.. Can it effect a 20 – 30 yr old players ability ?… Everybody’s?… ….id like to see the stats of the old Raider teams and how they did back east… I’m thinking they were a lot tougher ..
December 4th, 2011 at 6:33 pm
Take a chill pill Hendu ** relax man , just a freaking game , no need to be angry after every game , you can’t win em all .
December 4th, 2011 at 6:33 pm
Explosive offensive playmakers Darren McFadden (who has not played since Oct. 23), Jacoby Ford (Nov. 10) and Denarius Moore (Nov. 20) and even rookie speedster Taiwan Jones (also Nov. 20) all being inactive for the second straight game was simply too much to overcome.
December 4th, 2011 at 6:34 pm
So far the biggest change in this team has been the major drop off in qb play. Turn overs & errant passes that miss big play opportunities. We can clearly see that when the run game falters Palmer is turnover prone. Most disturbing is his tendency to float the ball into coverage, & the alarming numbers of pick 6 interceptions he coughs up.
The value of steady smart qb play is not lost on us in light of what we havE suffered here recently
December 4th, 2011 at 6:35 pm
Here is stuff about DT Price being sent home…
Bucs DT Brian Price was flagged for unsportsmanlike conduct in Tampa Bay’s loss to the Carolina Panthers. Tampa Bay coach Raheem Morris was so disgusted with the penalty that he didn’t just pull Price from the game. He sent him home.
“Yes, I sent him to the locker room,” Morris said. “I told him go home. [Expletive]. Yeah. Because it’s foolish, it’s selfish to your teammates, to everybody in your organization, to your fans. That’s terrible. That’s just selfish behavior to get a 15-yard penalty, in that situation, when that’s all we talk about, when that’s all we discuss. You just can’t do that to your team … When you give up a penalty, after a third-and-15, those are things that are not smart, not fair to anybody on the football team. Not fair to anybody that’s coaching that football team. Those things are unacceptable.”
December 4th, 2011 at 6:36 pm
That time zone change has minimal effect when you get there a couple days before. If you flew out there the day of the game, maybe. I think it’s just an excuse. It’s all about who wants it more.
December 4th, 2011 at 6:36 pm
In my defense, I have consistently called for Hue’s head after losses AND wins. I think he sucks. Always have. Never wavered.
December 4th, 2011 at 6:37 pm
If McFadden and Moore are out anymore this season Raiders won’t win division.
Those guys must get back on the field.
December 4th, 2011 at 6:38 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 6:34 pm
So far the biggest change in this team has been the major drop off in qb play. Turn overs & errant passes that miss big play opportunities. We can clearly see that when the run game falters Palmer is turnover prone. Most disturbing is his tendency to float the ball into coverage, & the alarming numbers of pick 6 interceptions he coughs up.
The value of steady smart qb play is not lost on us in light of what we havE suffered here recently.
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I would never deny ones version of reality.
December 4th, 2011 at 6:40 pm
Code black *** yeah baby fUk yeah.
December 4th, 2011 at 6:43 pm
Well thank god some of you guys aren’t GMS of any team, you guys would have never hired Gruden, Madden , Flores n even if you did you guys might have axed them after their first loss
December 4th, 2011 at 6:43 pm
Mystic
Get over your man-love affair with JCampbell. Palmer is the starting Raider QB for the next couple of years barring injury. I liked JC too and recognize that he did a lot in helping this team improve but he’s not the same caliber of player that Palmer is. JC’s smartest move would be to accept the BU-QB position here, while making $2-3M a year for the next 7-10 years. He’d probably pick up a SB ring or 2 in that time interval too. He wouldn’t be all banged up when he retired and he’d have a bundle of $’s in the bank with his future secured.
December 4th, 2011 at 6:44 pm
General Managers **
December 4th, 2011 at 6:46 pm
Palmer is the Raider QB,PERIOD.Boss,however,needs to step up,no more drops,in his hands.Starting to remind me of Dudley,frig
December 4th, 2011 at 6:46 pm
291.fingers Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 5:52 pm
Dj…you saying the Raiders are still a disappointment but a better disappointment ?…ok..I can agree with that….sounds odd but that’s pretty much it..
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Actually more of a disappointment seeing as they got everybody’s hope up and then…kaboom. Let down is the term that fits.
They come in with EVERYTHING to play for, and if for those of us that were suckered into beleiving Hue, we were turning the corner. This was a team that “didn’t blink” according to our HC, yet these “non-blinkers” come into Miami against a 3-8 team (granted Miami is better than their record and have been playing better lately), but still… THIS is what we get? THIS is “turning the corner”? THIS is a team who says “why not us”?
We shouldn’t of even had to worry about this game. but I did. I wish for once…ONE DAMN TIME this team would live up to what Hue tells us they are.
December 4th, 2011 at 6:46 pm
CODE BLACK will remain in effect wether your still on the bandwagon or jumped off it .. Just don’t jump back on it after we beat the Packers next week
December 4th, 2011 at 6:47 pm
Wow Mistic you’re right. Raiders should be starting Boller. Maybe the Raiders should pick up McNabb. Oh I know..hey we can get Jawutshisname back. Wait, Raiders have JCamp..get him in there and let him throw those bombs with a fkd up coller bone. Ahhh never mind, let Pryor start.
December 4th, 2011 at 6:48 pm
JB Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 6:43 pm
Mystic
Get over your man-love affair with JCampbell. Palmer is the starting Raider QB for the next couple of years barring injury. I liked JC too and recognize that he did a lot in helping this team improve but he’s not the same caliber of player that Palmer is. JC’s smartest move would be to accept the BU-QB position here, while making $2-3M a year for the next 7-10 years. He’d probably pick up a SB ring or 2 in that time interval too. He wouldn’t be all banged up when he retired and he’d have a bundle of $’s in the bank with his future secured.
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Never fails, I bring up Palmer someone else jumps in with our injured qb?!?!
I was speaking about palmer & how poorly he is playing this season. Why do you mention another guy that isn’t even available to play?
December 4th, 2011 at 6:48 pm
Hey DjohnyG , we will live upto what Hue said that is we will make the playoffs as he promised ***
December 4th, 2011 at 6:49 pm
-”Obviously were very disappointed”
-”This is on me. We need to play better; and we will”.
blahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblah.
December 4th, 2011 at 6:50 pm
The team didn’t come out to play and that’s it. After the second offensive and defensive series I knew it was going to be a long day. Everyone just seemed flat and ho hum.
December 4th, 2011 at 6:51 pm
Hue has always said the Raiders have not played a complete game yet. Well the offense has, Buffalo, the special has, chicago, the defense has…???
The Raiders game needs to pick. Hue don’t point the finger address the problem. Do more with less and not less with more. Pundits say Raiders have the talent. One side of the ball had a bad day. Explain the other side. dD coord. needs to be the first one there and the last one to leave in my perspective. Remember,truth being told the time is now!!!!!!!
December 4th, 2011 at 6:52 pm
Raiders O haven’t showed up since that SD game n our D is not good enough to play low scoring field position games .. return of Dwow, Jacoby n Darren McFadden will make a huge difference because top 5 players on our O
December 4th, 2011 at 6:52 pm
Hu jack may have been exposed for reaching for Palmer in a purely reactionary move. Palmer is looking more & more like the bungles he quit on in cincy & all the elite talk may have been all hype. We will see. Outside of the charger game Palmer has been very pedestrian. Maybe we need to figure out how to draft RGIII of Palmer isn’t the long term answer. Early returns have him looking suspect.
December 4th, 2011 at 6:52 pm
McFadden 20,
I admire your enthusiasm. You’re a good guy. You too deserve better.
December 4th, 2011 at 6:54 pm
It’s more the way they lost that kills me…I mean for cryin out loud… They played horrible… The Oline was crap and the Dline never pressured Moore .. Nothing… Seymour needs to pick up his game… And play smarter…these guys that are to injured to practice but not to injured to rack up personal fouls and get ejected…unacceptable …
December 4th, 2011 at 6:56 pm
Palmer has thrown for around 1500 yds in the last 3 weeks.In todays game the int bounced off 2 offensive players hands.Contrary to what those that hate him say,he is playing very good football for being on the team for such a short time.EVERYONE associated with the game has acknowledged these facts.
December 4th, 2011 at 6:56 pm
We need to ax Breshnahan as soon as we can after our Season ends because he sucks at his job n he does not inspire confidence in anybody I think had we kept marshal we could b playing a little better on D but oh well atleast we’re still win in this sh~t even with Sh;TTY D n lots of players injured n distractions n adversity ..
December 4th, 2011 at 6:57 pm
256.mcfadden20. Says:
December 1st, 2011 at 4:40 pm
JT Says:
December 1st, 2011 at 4:39 pm
Can someone explain how come a 3-8 team is favored against a 7-4 team?
Raiders are +3 on the road at Miami..
Something fishy going on
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mcfadden20. Says:
Who cares, if that isn’t a sign to put you house on Raiders straight up or +3…then you cant think.
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hey mcfadden20, youre such a genius my ol friend. Good thing you were right about betting the raiders LOL… youre a class act.
Thats why the raiders were a underdog as a team with a better record, because people with brains know much better than experts like yourself.
You got owned
December 4th, 2011 at 6:59 pm
There goes the season prolly a good thing anyways i don’t want to give up 2 first round picks
December 4th, 2011 at 6:59 pm
I’m still behind Palmer…… I thought he tried hard today despite the off day our Oline was having ..
December 4th, 2011 at 7:00 pm
Not going to be easy drafting RG3 when all we have is a 5th rounder and maybe a couple of compensatory picks.
December 4th, 2011 at 7:01 pm
Palmer is the reason we are 7-5 and have a chance to be in the playoff race you freaking old babbling retard.
If we would have done nothing and let Boller start we would be 5-7.
Do you need help dressing yourself in the morning?
December 4th, 2011 at 7:01 pm
295.lefty12 Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 5:53 pm
Djohnny-being pissed is one thing.Quitting and giving up hope with 1/4 of the season still left to play is another.
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I’m not giving up as a fan. I’ve stuck with it this long and I won’t jump ship as far as that goes, but as far as my faith in this team goes? After what I saw today…i think this a team that is not nearly as good as Hue tells us they are. I will root for ‘em no matter what but…they aren’t that good.
December 4th, 2011 at 7:02 pm
Ask him if he’d be ok with Luck,Barkley,or Jones if we couldn’t get RG3.
December 4th, 2011 at 7:03 pm
C Palmer is not the problem , he haven’t even played one down yet with the best player on our team McFadden n the receivers he will most comfortable with been injured last Two games n our Oline haven’t been giving him much time since Minnesota game
December 4th, 2011 at 7:03 pm
I don’t think Palmer has any haters in here in fact he has mainly worshipped on this blog. I don’t care about yardage totals. The bone headed turnovers is the issue. Let’s be honest in our assessment. The way he has played the last two weeks has been shaky at best & today it burned us. Turnovers are always more important than yardage totals. When the qb avoids mistakes we can win.
December 4th, 2011 at 7:05 pm
If Palmer was black you would be praising his good games and playing down his low points right now.
Your hidden agenda is now out in the open and your stupid racial bias to QB is not cool on any level. So shut up Mystic1 and go back into hiding you only came out to bash Palmer!
You were hiding when he was winning so go back under your rock.
December 4th, 2011 at 7:05 pm
Misty eyes, you live with joker, right….When he sends his address I’ll throw in an extra penny to the nickel I am sending him…You guys whack up that 6 cents because that’s all your credibility in this community is worth…
December 4th, 2011 at 7:06 pm
369,bingo,Lefty12,snake jr,whats youre take on Stabler vs Plunkett,who gets in the Hall first,iyo
December 4th, 2011 at 7:06 pm
Djohnny-if they aren’t that good why get so upset when they lose?It is difficult to tell how good this team is since it has had and still does have so many injuries.When you get right down to it,we are lucky to be doing as well as we have been due to the abundance of injuries.
December 4th, 2011 at 7:06 pm
Hey JT sorry about your bets , I envisioned the same team will show up that have beaten SD,Minny,n Chicago , nobody really expected the team that showed up against KC chiefs to show up again ..
December 4th, 2011 at 7:06 pm
Palmer wasn’t the reason we lost….. We lost on the lines … Defense and offense .. Punt coverage isn’t very good…. And tackling was a problem again
December 4th, 2011 at 7:09 pm
Did you guys see the halftime segment of this Saints game on the Texans?
All the injuries to all those key players and they are still where they are today on the brink of winning their Division outright. My guess is Wade Phillips.
Get Del Rio on the phone right now.
December 4th, 2011 at 7:09 pm
Mistic, who the fk else is going play. It is what it is.
December 4th, 2011 at 7:09 pm
384.mcfadden20. Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 7:06 pm
Hey JT sorry about your bets , I envisioned the same team will show up that have beaten SD,Minny,n Chicago , nobody really expected the team that showed up against KC chiefs to show up again ..
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thats why there’s experts in vegas, because they are in the know…
i did not watch the game, but was very worried about this one, because it had the looks of a ‘trap game’, before the green bay game….
December 4th, 2011 at 7:09 pm
Luck isn’t bad, jones & Barkley are alright, they can’t do what RGIII can do. I wouldn’t be surprised to see RGIII last until late becuase of the usual knocks against extremely athletic qbs that play in spread offense. Yet most of it in his case is way off base.
December 4th, 2011 at 7:10 pm
Mistic,you hate him and everyone knows why.
December 4th, 2011 at 7:11 pm
Code Black will remain in effect n it wouldn’t surprise me if Raiders beat the Packers (really happy the won today, it will feel more better if we n that’s big If we beat them next week)
Really hard to predict what kinda Raiders team will show up each n every Sunday … These are the games they need to start being bully’s n kick the Ish out of the other teams
December 4th, 2011 at 7:11 pm
Saying Palmer isn’t playing well makes me a racist?!?! WOW!
December 4th, 2011 at 7:11 pm
Hey. 666, if I’d have known you were going to send such an appropriately directed comment at misty eyes, I wouldn’t have sent mine….BEAUTIFUL…
December 4th, 2011 at 7:12 pm
375,Hey 666,youre killin me,how do you know if hes young or old?
December 4th, 2011 at 7:12 pm
Yep, that Texas Defense has really stepped it up….talk about ” next man up”…on their 3rd Qb and still kick’n Az$
December 4th, 2011 at 7:12 pm
The issue isn’t Palmer. It’s what was given up for him. I said that from the very beginning.
He’s good, and definitely an upgrade at the position. But he’s not going to overcome the rest of the team’s ineptitude. That makes him not worth two high draft picks.
I don’t care how much more exciting to watch he is than Campbell. When this team sits at home the next two postseasons, Palmer will represent lost opportunity to get two high non-Al draft picks.
December 4th, 2011 at 7:12 pm
I’ll bet Del Rio can come in and have this defense ready right now. Bring him in tomorrow. We will take some lumps vs Green Bay (and you think Bres wouldn’t?) and maybe a few vs Detroit but after that we would hold SD and KC under 10 points to roll into the playoffs. We win a shootout vs Detroit and Denver loses two of four.
December 4th, 2011 at 7:13 pm
YEA….misty eyes…..WOW…..
December 4th, 2011 at 7:13 pm
This is what needs to be done with R Seymour but we just dont have a body to replace him.
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Bucs DT Brian Price was flagged for unsportsmanlike conduct in Tampa Bay’s loss to the Carolina Panthers. Tampa Bay coach Raheem Morris was so disgusted with the penalty that he didn’t just pull Price from the game. He sent him home.
“Yes, I sent him to the locker room,” Morris said. “I told him go home. [Expletive]. Yeah. Because it’s foolish, it’s selfish to your teammates, to everybody in your organization, to your fans. That’s terrible. That’s just selfish behavior to get a 15-yard penalty, in that situation, when that’s all we talk about, when that’s all we discuss. You just can’t do that to your team … When you give up a penalty, after a third-and-15, those are things that are not smart, not fair to anybody on the football team. Not fair to anybody that’s coaching that football team. Those things are unacceptable.”
December 4th, 2011 at 7:14 pm
JT Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 7:09 pm
384.mcfadden20. Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 7:06 pm
Hey JT sorry about your bets , I envisioned the same team will show up that have beaten SD,Minny,n Chicago , nobody really expected the team that showed up against KC chiefs to show up again ..
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thats why there’s experts in vegas, because they are in the know…
i did not watch the game, but was very worried about this one, because it had the looks of a ‘trap game’, before the green bay game….
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Oh thanks maybe I will pick every favorite team next week n win lots of money cuz there are experts in Vegas that know which team will win each n every game , thanks for the heads up JT
December 4th, 2011 at 7:14 pm
Palmer has 9 picks & the total could be far worse if he hadn’t gotten lucky with some dropped picks. Is this untrue, or off limits for discussion. I garuntee no one would accept that kind of play from our other qbs
December 4th, 2011 at 7:14 pm
The criticism Taiwan Jones got for not being in on offensive was because he was a liablity, not a blocker. M. Bush stated he needed to be a better blocker and stunk it up in the past ,as well as ,today.In aspect to that angle players are still going to run through him until he puts somebody on their back!!!!!!!
Put an outside threat in the back field once in awhile!!!! The inside gaps may open up.
December 4th, 2011 at 7:17 pm
You’d think Bush would be a great Blocker…. He sucks… Tough guy.. Weak blocker..
December 4th, 2011 at 7:17 pm
Elevate Wauffle to DC – FIRE CHUCK
December 4th, 2011 at 7:18 pm
MistaBrown Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 7:13 pm
This is what needs to be done with R Seymour but we just dont have a body to replace him.
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Bucs DT Brian Price was flagged for unsportsmanlike conduct in Tampa Bay’s loss to the Carolina Panthers. Tampa Bay coach Raheem Morris was so disgusted with the penalty that he didn’t just pull Price from the game. He sent him home.
“Yes, I sent him to the locker room,” Morris said. “I told him go home. [Expletive]. Yeah. Because it’s foolish, it’s selfish to your teammates, to everybody in your organization, to your fans. That’s terrible. That’s just selfish behavior to get a 15-yard penalty, in that situation, when that’s all we talk about, when that’s all we discuss. You just can’t do that to your team … When you give up a penalty, after a third-and-15, those are things that are not smart, not fair to anybody on the football team. Not fair to anybody that’s coaching that football team. Those things are unacceptable.”
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Ladies n Gentlemen , please welcome our new head coach in 2013 Mista Brown , the guy knows everything n sending that player home means Automatic Win for the Buccaneers next week
December 4th, 2011 at 7:18 pm
Palmer and Terrell Pryor are our QB’s of the present and future get in line with it.
Let talk about what really let us down today…..we were dominated at the LOS on both sides of the ball. We got bullied.
December 4th, 2011 at 7:19 pm
Palmers lack of mobility has exposed our o line. When he isn’t under pressure he is seeing ghost, when he is under pressure he is toast. I’m afraid Palmer is a guy that needs everything around him to be perfect in order to make a play. He hasn’t shown that he can win with grit or make plays when the team struggles.
You never miss the water til the well runs dry
December 4th, 2011 at 7:20 pm
McFad20, I didnt say it meant an automatic win. You had to manufacture that to fit your rant, faeggot for that! Seymour needs to be handled. If you dont agree with that fine but dont put words in my mouth you kunt hole.
December 4th, 2011 at 7:21 pm
Blaming Palmer for this loss is ridiculous. No running game, horrible pass protection and D gives up 27. Not saying he played great but nothing was working around him. Yes he is going to throw some picks, but he is the gun slinging type. Besides he was just building a connection with Ford/Moore then boom they both go down. Now he is going through the same process with Chaz/Murph and they are simply not as explosive. Not to mention DMac. Palmer is the least of my worries.
December 4th, 2011 at 7:22 pm
True… Palmer didn’t lose this game…. It was lost on Both Lines….
December 4th, 2011 at 7:22 pm
Palmer is working with a group of scrub WR’s that wouldn’t even be on the field if Moore and Ford were healthy.
Pull your head out of your keester guys…
December 4th, 2011 at 7:23 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 7:14 pm
Palmer has 9 picks & the total could be far worse if he hadn’t gotten lucky with some dropped picks. Is this untrue, or off limits for discussion. I garuntee no one would accept that kind of play from our other qbs
—- yup he should b doing better in short period of time , he should have done better in his first game with a new team n knowing only 10 % of the playbook n he should better with the best player McFadden out n two receivers he feels comfortable with out last couple of games n our O line not giving him much time to throw … Mistic is such a genius , it’s crazy he’s not a scout for an NFL team ..
December 4th, 2011 at 7:23 pm
Seymour and Kelly looked like punks McClain looked lost at times Giradono took bad angles.
Satele got man handled, Barnes was sloppy and was penalized at crucial times hell even the pro bowler Valdheer got beat Bush missed blocks Boss dropped passes that were in his hands……did I leave anyone out?
December 4th, 2011 at 7:24 pm
Is it just me or does Mitchell miss half his tackles this year? Especially on ST when he flies by the return man almost every time. I thought he was really coming on last year, in coverage also, and was a stout tackler. This year…not so much.
December 4th, 2011 at 7:25 pm
383.lefty12 Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 7:06 pm
Djohnny-if they aren’t that good why get so upset when they lose?It is difficult to tell how good this team is since it has had and still does have so many injuries.When you get right down to it,we are lucky to be doing as well as we have been due to the abundance of injuries.
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Good points but the reason I am so upset is BEFORE THIS GAME I really bought into the idea they were actually good. Here on out, I won’t be as upset. Will I root for them? It is embedded in my genetic disposition.
December 4th, 2011 at 7:26 pm
MistaBrown Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 7:20 pm
McFad20, I didnt say it meant an automatic win. You had to manufacture that to fit your rant, faeggot for that! Seymour needs to be handled. If you dont agree with that fine but dont put words in my mouth you kunt hole.
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Oh yeah let’s send our most respected player on our team home , that should sit very well with the whole squad n the team going forward .. Your such a genius mista
December 4th, 2011 at 7:26 pm
There were dolfins in the backfield allday…so the run game couldn’t get going and Palmer had no time ….. I was suprised our Oline played so badly … Also thought the Dline would get more pressure ..they did Nothing for most the day
December 4th, 2011 at 7:29 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 7:26 pm
MistaBrown Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 7:20 pm
McFad20, I didnt say it meant an automatic win. You had to manufacture that to fit your rant, faeggot for that! Seymour needs to be handled. If you dont agree with that fine but dont put words in my mouth you kunt hole.
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Oh yeah I forgot to mention very classy post as well …you are really good at this thing Mista .. Really you should b working for some NFL team
December 4th, 2011 at 7:30 pm
HET, MISTY, NOT ONE WORD IN DEFENSE OF MCCLAIN….I GUESS CAMPBELL LET’S YOU SPIT AND MCCLAIN MUST MAKE YOU SWALLOW…..ROCK…..GO BACK AND CRAWL UNDER IT…BIGOT….
December 4th, 2011 at 7:31 pm
Whos respect does Seymour have? He’s a joke and should be dealt with.
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Mcfadden20. Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 7:26 pm
Oh yeah let’s send our most respected player on our team home , that should sit very well with the whole squad n the team going forward .. Your such a genius mista
December 4th, 2011 at 7:32 pm
When you get manhandled at the LOS on both sides , It doesn’t matter if your Raiders of the 70s or Pats of 2000’s your going to lose the game 99 times out of 100
December 4th, 2011 at 7:34 pm
Whomever is in charge of driving the bandwagon can continue on past the place where you would normally pick me up. I will walk the rest of the year, but I say THIS year.
I think NEXT YEAR if we address this lackluster, porous defense, and we get guys back healthy, then this team can be good. There is no doubt that Hue will get rid of Bresnahan in the offseason and bring in one of his guys to run the D. That will help.
This year? I don’t think DMAC is coming back. Maybe a full off season to search for the whereabouts of his amputated foot will yield results. It’s too late to fix the defense now and without Moore (do we really have any idea when HE is coming back?) we are screwed imo.
I have hopes for NEXT YEAR.
December 4th, 2011 at 7:34 pm
MistaBrown Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 7:31 pm
Whos respect does Seymour have? He’s a joke and should be dealt with.
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Mcfadden20. Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 7:26 pm
Oh yeah let’s send our most respected player on our team home , that should sit very well with the whole squad n the team going forward .. Your such a genius mista
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I admit he should b doing better but he’s the senior member of this team n he will b the first to tell you he effed up , but you can’t b taking Risks like sending players teams leaders home with 4 games left n still in contention of playoffs
December 4th, 2011 at 7:35 pm
Now thats an empty glass.
December 4th, 2011 at 7:36 pm
I have hopes for this year as n I really hope they answer the bell n get into the playoffs
December 4th, 2011 at 7:37 pm
Hey, 20, Don’t worry about MistaBrown he’s cool, he just doesn’t like Seymour’s ethic or play on the field….Code Silver…
December 4th, 2011 at 7:37 pm
It’s too early to write Palmer off yet, but so far the turn overs smell like Bengal dung. If he can make better decisions this team can still win. Today was not all on Palmer. The truth is Palmer played just as poorly as the rest of the team, & Palmer is just a reason & not the reason. If he can improve we will be fine, the if is suddenly a lot bigger now
December 4th, 2011 at 7:40 pm
Someone should have listened when Louis Murphy said “You see an injury like that (DHB’s neck)and it makes you really stop and ask yourself is this really is the right carrer choice”.
What does that tell you? The guy is flat out scared.
That is an extreme liability in the NFL. Man, the guy openly admitted it and yet he starts on Sunday?
When I heard that quote I knew he was done.
December 4th, 2011 at 7:41 pm
Code Black shall remain in effect the rest of the year n we should definitely make the playoffs if we show up in atleast 3 of the 4 games I don’t see how we can’t go all the way once everybody is healthy n our D decides to show up
December 4th, 2011 at 7:43 pm
Misty eyes….Say the word Zero as in credibility….Say the word Exposed as in racial bigot…..Say the word Swallow as in he makes me swallow…Say the word Disappear as in where ever you have been for the last month….Say the word RAIDER as in your not a Raider fan…..
December 4th, 2011 at 7:44 pm
425.mcfadden20. Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 7:36 pm
I have hopes for this year as n I really hope they answer the bell n get into the playoffs
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We all “hope” for that. It’s too bad all we have is this “hope”.
Bush is tired and beat up and I don’t believe DMAC is coming back this year; and Taiwan Jones? What’s wrong with this guy anyway? I see guys on other teams limp off the field and come back two plays later but when Raiders limp off they don’t come back for months.
December 4th, 2011 at 7:45 pm
“When I heard that quote I knew he was done.”
So true you can’t play in this league scared looking over your shoulder and with alligator arms.
December 4th, 2011 at 7:46 pm
Djohnnyg Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 7:40 pm
Someone should have listened when Louis Murphy said “You see an injury like that (DHB’s neck)and it makes you really stop and ask yourself is this really is the right carrer choice”.
What does that tell you? The guy is flat out scared.
That is an extreme liability in the NFL. Man, the guy openly admitted it and yet he starts on Sunday?
When I heard that quote I knew he was done.
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Your right , we really need to get rid of some dead weight like Louis Murphy n others… We should only get better as we move forward with Hue .. I mean we will instantly upgrade with a new DC next year n Hue not being a Rookie coach anymore .
December 4th, 2011 at 7:49 pm
Code Black **^^^ Hop on the train n you will b really happy you did when Hue is holding that Lombardi trophy in his one hand and Cigar in the other
December 4th, 2011 at 7:50 pm
I’m frustrated cuz I thought THIS TEAM this year could do some things.
-too many injuries
-too bad a defense
I wish there were some magical wand Hue could wave and fix this defense.
I trust that he will try to do so in the offseason.
December 4th, 2011 at 7:51 pm
Love Hue or hate him I really believe he will take us to the promised land pretty soon
December 4th, 2011 at 7:51 pm
so who do we play next cry babies ? wuts our schedule ? who does denver play ?
December 4th, 2011 at 7:51 pm
Disappointing game. Observations:
1. Raiders cant run sweeps with Bush. He just isnt quick enough. Did you notice how crowded the line was on running downs? Its because they knew their LB’s getting outrun by Bush wasnt a concern. So, they focused on the inside game and took it away.
2. Props to DHB. No matter what anyone says about him, that dude competes every play. However, we do not have a standout WR. I think our WR’s would be second stringers elsewhere.
3. I’m not saavy enough to comment on the line-play except to say it seems we either dominate or get deminated… no in-between.
4. I like Curry. He really is a stud, outside of coverage.
5. If we dont get McFadden back, in a hurry, we are DONE for the rest of the year.
6. If we don’t do something about upgrading our WR’s we are DONE as well.
7. No matter what, if we make it out of the FIRST round of the playoffs.. I will crap my pants.
December 4th, 2011 at 7:52 pm
Back to the Palmer hate? LMAO!
Ah, it’s so easy to identify the trolls and players’ wives in this blog.
December 4th, 2011 at 7:52 pm
iont kno . denvre is prolly on sum special ish rihgt now . like their goin to the playoffs and lose in the 2nd round close cus tebow got a pact with god .
December 4th, 2011 at 7:53 pm
Bresnahan was an Al Davis guy. Now that Al is gone, we can get a better defensive coordinator.
December 4th, 2011 at 7:53 pm
and players’ wives in this blog.
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LOL!
December 4th, 2011 at 7:54 pm
Djohnnyg Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 7:50 pm
I’m frustrated cuz I thought THIS TEAM this year could do some things.
-too many injuries
-too bad a defense
I wish there were some magical wand Hue could wave and fix this defense.
I trust that he will try to do so in the offseason.
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Hey don’t sound like the season is over, there’s still lots of football left to b played n we won’t know anything until the last game is played on week 17 .. Don’t sound like we’re in last place we’re still freakin in first place n other team is not exactly Patriots or anything .. We are still favorites to win this
December 4th, 2011 at 7:54 pm
It is almost a curse that we are still TIED FOR 1ST.If we weren’t we could get rid of Bres now and start working on the future defense-if that is the way we go.Does anyone know if the guys we wanted this past off-season will be available next year or are they still under contract?
December 4th, 2011 at 7:54 pm
TSR…..That was funny….LOL….!!!!
December 4th, 2011 at 7:55 pm
yeah like i said be4 .. cut sorry azz houshmanzadeh = useless . bad move by hue. shouldve kept hagan , my god he was performing!!! just stupid. bush isnt fast ? uhh dugh!! who doesnt know that ? and why dont we have a backup running back right now ? rock cartwright ? = lol
December 4th, 2011 at 7:56 pm
why doesnt anybody on green bay get hurt this season like on the raiders ? we needa hire their trainers & docs
December 4th, 2011 at 7:56 pm
Code black will remain in effect wether some of you guys like it or hate cuz that’s just the way it is
December 4th, 2011 at 7:56 pm
I believe they are Lefty, even though Del Rio was only a DC one year, he may warrant a closer look….
December 4th, 2011 at 7:57 pm
dmac needa toughen the hell up . im sick of his greatly talented azz sittin on the bench. and our recievers are good . specially dhb and murphy.
December 4th, 2011 at 7:59 pm
Doriangray Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 7:56 pm
why doesnt anybody on green bay get hurt this season like on the raiders ? we needa hire their trainers & docs
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Man it’s so frustrating that half of our team can’t b on field with this hamstring issues n broken toe nails n Sh_t , I really hope that it’s just the result of bad staff that takes care if all this n not fringe players .. Let’s hire 3 or 4 world class Strangth and Conditions staffs next year
December 4th, 2011 at 8:00 pm
6. If we don’t do something about upgrading our WR’s we are DONE as well.
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disagree.
we have a good set of wideouts, Moore and Ford back soon…
December 4th, 2011 at 8:02 pm
I don’t think Jack has any history with HJ,even though I wouldn’t mind him coming in to run the D.
December 4th, 2011 at 8:02 pm
Hue is not an NFL caliber head coach not yet anyway. He’s in over his head. Bresnahan isn’t fit to coach youth football. With the talent on our D we should be top 5. Underachievers! No identity this team has no idea who they are week to week. The top teams know who they are and beat the lesser teams. Raiders are pretenders.
December 4th, 2011 at 8:02 pm
Mistic, Palmer just helped us to 3 straight wins, before this typical east coast letdown.
Yet you’re unhappy with his play “all season”??
December 4th, 2011 at 8:03 pm
i love all our wide recievers . except sorry housh . these guys are the bizness. moore is sepcial. ford is a lil overrated but talented. dhb is great . murphy is a playmaker . chaz is the most physically gifted .
December 4th, 2011 at 8:04 pm
Joker, your name says it all.
Hue is, based on his record, a top 12 coach in the NFL.
None of the teams with a better record lost their starting QB, RB, and WR this season.
December 4th, 2011 at 8:04 pm
Well, this is what I was afraid of. Being at 7-5 now and tied with Denver, with their schedule compared to ours, the odds of us being 7-7 and them being 8-6 by the time we play KC and they play buffalo are very likely. That would mean us hoping for either Buffalo or KC to beat them once and us having to win both of our last 2 games.
Beating KC and SD is possible, but our playoffs hopes would no longer be in our hands, but in the hands of Denver. Not a scenario we want to be in. But unfortunately, a very likely one. And that would put us both at 9-7, and out fate on tiebreakers.
As you all know, to prevent that, we would have to win all our games or maybe 3 out of the next 4. Which is what Denver might end up doing. So really, in order to prevent any tiebreaker scenarios, we would need to win all remaining games. A tough thing to do with GB and Det in line.
We needed this win more than anything, and we straight up gave it away. Our offense was flat, and our D could not stop a 3rd and long for the life of them. This is not what playoffs teams are made of. So perhaps, we are not ready for them.
This has nothing to do with jumping on or off a bandwagon, a player’s off the field behavior, or if a punch was a punch. Not even injuries can be a scapegoat for this performance. This has to do with execution, game planning, and discipline.
Why was Fasano so wide open on so many plays? Why was Moore allowed to run for 15 yds? Why were we not able to stop a 3rd and 8? These are the questions that need to be answered. Sure, the offense didn’t help by not being able to get a first down almost the entire first half.
However, it is also true that the season is not yet “over”. And anything can happen. But this team better get their act together. Injuries or not, punches or not, misdemeanors or not. If they truly want to be and believe they are playoff worthy.
From Hue to Palmer to Seymour to McCann. Everybody needs to step up and make the next 4 count.
“Win them all or go home.” Print it, post it in the locker room.
As always, go Raiders!
December 4th, 2011 at 8:05 pm
Check Lefty, I am mobile, I know Del Rio’s only stint as DC was in Baltimore….I believe their super bowl year….
December 4th, 2011 at 8:06 pm
We need atleast one more good receiver that can stay healthy next gear .. Get rid oh L Murphy n house
December 4th, 2011 at 8:07 pm
Already hearing that McFadden might miss the Packers game.
Only guy in the NFL that needs 8 weeks to come back from a “mild” ankle sprain.
December 4th, 2011 at 8:08 pm
Dori, I did like Housh catching the TD and just going straight to the bench, unlike Chaz who caught a 9-yard pass and started screaming like crazy, despite the score being 34-0 at the time.
I can picture which guy is more likely to party regardless.
December 4th, 2011 at 8:08 pm
it was a ghastly lose, ugly ,horrible etc etc.
No talk of Hue not being NFL caliber coach the last 3 weeks tho,
And i love how Murphy is thrown under the bus, having been our only production at Wide Out for 2 years.. comes back hurt and down the Depth Chart, and its all his fault, he sucks, hes scared blah blah…
Yeah lets just cut a young skilled wide out… for who ? Hagen ? guys act like Hagen was Jesus fckn Christ.
December 4th, 2011 at 8:09 pm
Not ankle sprain-foot sprain-whatever the hell that is.
December 4th, 2011 at 8:09 pm
wasbanned,
Ray Lewis is on week 4 and counting…on a toe injury.
Raiders went 3-1 without McFadden last month, why rush him back?
December 4th, 2011 at 8:10 pm
what a croc
December 4th, 2011 at 8:12 pm
I will agree that Murphy is the least-talented of all our WRs.
If guys were healthy, he wouldn’t be playing. Wouldn’t mind if we fill his spot next year with another LB.
‘Specially since we’ll be running…
a 3-4 baby!
December 4th, 2011 at 8:14 pm
Yes both our Oline nd Dline were outplayed but the coaches MUST counter that with better play calling.
Hue kept on with the same ol run bush up the middle, u could see the Miami LBs waiting on it every time.
How the HELL does Reece have a monster game last week, but doesn’t touch the ball until the 4th qtr?????????????
Hue only called maybe 2 screen passes all game, if the opposing D is over aggressive use it against them, SCREENS!!!!!!
A scat back like R.bush CANNOT run between the tackles so SET THE F@!KIN EDGE.
It seems like opposing teams recognize their best ways to win and play to it. But the Raiders just keep running the same stuff over nd over whether it works or not.
If we can see this at home watching TV, u would think Pro coaches, doing this all their lives should see it as well.
December 4th, 2011 at 8:15 pm
Autopalm77 Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 8:05 pm
Check Lefty, I am mobile, I know Del Rio’s only stint as DC was in Baltimore….I believe their super bowl year….
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Damn I didn’t know he was their DC that year .. If that’s true then throw the freaking house to sign him
December 4th, 2011 at 8:17 pm
ibking Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 7:51 pm
Disappointing game. Observations:
7. No matter what, if we make it out of the FIRST round of the playoffs.. I will crap my pants.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3-eavMSBnk
December 4th, 2011 at 8:19 pm
6. If we don’t do something about upgrading our WR’s we are DONE as well.
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disagree.
we have a good set of wideouts, Moore and Ford back soon…
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Dude… those guys are real GOOD. We need a WR with 4-5 years in the league that is excellent. We have GOOD WR’s that are all nearly rookies still. You see it in the way they cant adjust to the ball well, can’t use their bodies well, and how often pass plays are contested because they cant get open as easily as a pro with some experience….
December 4th, 2011 at 8:19 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 8:15 pm
Autopalm77 Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 8:05 pm
Check Lefty, I am mobile, I know Del Rio’s only stint as DC was in Baltimore….I believe their super bowl year….
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Damn I didn’t know he was their DC that year .. If that’s true then throw the freaking house to sign him
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You sure? I thought it was Marvin Lewis.
December 4th, 2011 at 8:19 pm
Is Jack Del Rio a 3-4 or 4-3 guy?
What was Baltimore when JDR was there? And what is Jax now?
I think Jax is 4-3 no?
December 4th, 2011 at 8:20 pm
From reading what JMac wrote about HueJax deciding he’ll basically do nothing on the McClain issue, just sweep it up under the Raiders back porch rug. Send the message that you go ahead and shame every one from your hometown to Oaktown and just be “remorseful.” What a joke. HueJax is alot of talk with no backbone.
Also, how he dealt with Big Rich, just apologize and everything is alright. “Rich is a rock.” No he’s not, he’s a moron, a 12 year veteran that still can’t “control” his emotions, if that’s a Raiders leader, then you know what we’re getting. Just a lame apology with no backbone.
December 4th, 2011 at 8:20 pm
Just hope we win 3/4 n Denver lose atleast 2
December 4th, 2011 at 8:20 pm
Anyone still want to question the “haters” in the media that picked the Fins?
Also, it’s a little premature, and we won’t know till the long run just how it will effect us, but for the record:
Since McClain incident, we’re 0-1. And in that pivotal first half where Miami established dominance, I saw a distracted Raider football team. Dropping passes, etc.
December 4th, 2011 at 8:22 pm
Maybe we should just send every team member to Decatur…At least we know what McClain did all week….Comes back and leads the team in tackles…Yea, that’s a great idea, because I don’t know what the rest of the team did this week….Can’t call it preparation…..
December 4th, 2011 at 8:23 pm
haven’t read all the comments so i may be redundant, but all I have to say is…..
WE CAN’T GAMEPLAN OR MAKE HALF-TIME ADJUSTMENTS!!!
December 4th, 2011 at 8:23 pm
We’ll be fine gents. We will lose to GB but we will beat Det, SD and KC. We match up well against SD. We always play KC well in KC. Detroit is not a good team. Middle of the road but definitely not a good team. We should be getting our playmakers back. 10-6.
December 4th, 2011 at 8:24 pm
If they go to Decatur, make sure they re-new their gun permits before the close of business on Wednesday.
December 4th, 2011 at 8:25 pm
WE CAN’T GAMEPLAN OR MAKE HALF-TIME ADJUSTMENTS!!!
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Very true.
1. Davon Bess killed us last year going across the middle on 3rd downs and he did the same today. You’d think Chuck and Hue had a good solution to it this year.
2. Reece is a playmaker in absence of our injured guys yet our gameplan had him for 1 carry and 1 catch. Rather than screens to Bush, they should do screens to Reece.
December 4th, 2011 at 8:26 pm
For quite some time now, the Ravens have run a hybrid of a 4/3 and a 3/4. Multiple fronts where Suggs and Johnson play OLB and DE, Ngata (much like Pryce before him) plays DE and DT. It’s a defense built around Ray Lewis, but they’ve been able to use the pieces around him to create mismatches.
Moral of this story? Before you can talk about effectively running any defensive scheme, you have to have players who fit in.
December 4th, 2011 at 8:26 pm
Code Black * Code Black
December 4th, 2011 at 8:26 pm
Bresnahan must go…Hue Jackson….???
December 4th, 2011 at 8:28 pm
KC just beat the Bears better than we did….why do you consider that a gimme?
December 4th, 2011 at 8:28 pm
482 – excellent point.
December 4th, 2011 at 8:28 pm
Rolando McClain must go.
Big distraction during the week = distracted football team come Sunday. Makes sense.
December 4th, 2011 at 8:30 pm
You don’t think the visual of a teammate shooting a bullet within inches of a guy’s head and the ensuing, bizarre photo taken of that teammate at the time of his arrest was on the minds of the players today? They sure as hell played like it.
December 4th, 2011 at 8:30 pm
Del Rio was linebackers coach for ravens 99-2001, DC in Carolina in 2002….
December 4th, 2011 at 8:30 pm
RDT-Why does everyone consider them a sure win for the donkeys?
December 4th, 2011 at 8:31 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 8:28 pm
Rolando McClain must go.
Big distraction during the week = distracted football team come Sunday. Makes sense.
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Pure BS…only an excuse if your not a good football player or team
December 4th, 2011 at 8:32 pm
Because KC caught us at the perfect time this season. By the time we play them, hopefully we will have most of our O players back, and we will be able to beat a KC team that is trying to playing the spoiler. Plus not that it means much, but normally we split with them. And they have no Cassel.
Though to be honest, after watching this debacle today, I wouldn’t be surprised if we lost even having all our Offense back.
December 4th, 2011 at 8:32 pm
call me crazy….KC could win the division
December 4th, 2011 at 8:35 pm
KC winning the division – not likely.
Denver winning the division – very likely. Unfortunately.
Us winning it – completely up for grabs.
December 4th, 2011 at 8:36 pm
KC and Denver are playing playoff type defence..we are not.
they are winning…we are not.
We play Green Bay next week…they are not.
We are playing from behind now…even though tied for 1st
December 4th, 2011 at 8:36 pm
Crazy-but mathematically it is possible.
December 4th, 2011 at 8:39 pm
they are winning…we are not.
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Hadn’t we won 3 in a row before today?
December 4th, 2011 at 8:40 pm
RDT,
Denial sucks, doesn’t it? It’s no way to go through life. Let’s try some reality.
A teammate gets arrested for shooting a bullet within inches of a man’s head.
A picture hits the press showing said teammate making some bizarre pose as he’s being arrested. This all just days before a game.
Team takes the field Sunday, and sure enough, they’re playing distracted football all day. Receivers are uncharacteristically dropping passes. Same receivers who’ve made great grabs all year. You’re saying they’re not good players? That’s b.s. You know McClain’s incident killed our chances of winning this week. We’ll see how many more games fall casualty to it.
Only someone who knows nothing about NFL football believes that incidents like McClain’s don’t serve as distractions to a team.
December 4th, 2011 at 8:40 pm
we lost to Miami…and now play Green Bay, and then Detroit?
lose those and we are .500 in the last 6 games
December 4th, 2011 at 8:42 pm
You are right, it is possible. Just not likely.
We were winning before this game, 3 in a row.
For some reason though, I only see Denver as a challenger for the division.
And as of right now, we would be lucky to get in as a wild card.
December 4th, 2011 at 8:43 pm
Sullivan
Wasn’t Ray Lewis in a car with guys who killed someone with firearms the same year they won the Super Bowl?
Quit pretending you have insight to sports or athletes, you don’t…you never played a single sport competively in your life and it shows.
December 4th, 2011 at 8:43 pm
RDT,
Let’s try a thinking exercise (after all, you could use one…).
Let’s say, in a few days, Michael Bush gets arrested for firing a gun at someone. No big deal, right? Shouldn’t effect us on the field next week?
December 4th, 2011 at 8:44 pm
RDT,
Come on. Ray’s incident happened in the off season, not a few days before a game. Stop spinning. Stop denying. Just admit McClain’s incident was a huge distraction, then we can all go to bed. Or I can just keep pimp slapping you with reality. Your choice.
December 4th, 2011 at 8:45 pm
Sullivan
These guys didn’t get where they are by being distracted by other people’s (or their own) problems.
December 4th, 2011 at 8:46 pm
Sullivan
Your reality is a wet noodle…getting slapped by it is non-consequential
December 4th, 2011 at 8:47 pm
quit pretending you know anything about sports other what jerseys are cool to wear or buy
December 4th, 2011 at 8:48 pm
RDT,
Football is a team game. You have never heard a coach before speak of avoiding team distractions?
This concept is seriously lost on you?
Really?
Dude, how long have you been watching sports?
OK, maybe the Bush question went over your head.
Let’s try another thinking exercise.
SB 37. Us vs. Tampa. Barret Robbins’ incident had no effect on the team whatsoever? None? Remember, this is a common excuse for the Raider Nation as to why we lost that game. You ready to set them straight? Robbins’ incident had nothing to do with it? Is that what you’re saying? Or will you just admit that distractions kill teams?
December 4th, 2011 at 8:51 pm
we lost to Tampa Bay because they knew our playbook and our coach was too stupid to realize it and let our old coach know exactly what our game plan was….Barrett Robbins wasn’t going to stop that at all.
He could have got injured on the 1st play…same effect.
December 4th, 2011 at 8:52 pm
I can’t understand why the defense consistently sucks year in year out. The good news is that with Al Davis no longer locking the scheme, Hue can get a real top quality defensive coordinator at the end of the season. I guarantee he’s smart enough to recognize ol’ Chuck is in over is head.
December 4th, 2011 at 8:53 pm
Sullivan
That is your problem…I don’t just watch sports, I have played them….you obviously never have, at best you were the “manager”, you know the guy…keep stats, get us towels, then you can they be allowed to hang with us.
December 4th, 2011 at 8:56 pm
RDT,
You don’t think the Robbins incident had nothing to do with that loss? Sure, TB may have won anyway, but that was a blowout of epic proportions. It was by far the worst day in the history of our franchise. By a long shot. Never had the Raiders been embarrassed that bad. Face it, RDT. That incident set the tone. Our goose was cooked before we even took the field.
December 4th, 2011 at 8:58 pm
Gannon threw 5 INT’s because their Defence knew what our Offence was doing as well as we did….PERIOD,
December 4th, 2011 at 8:58 pm
Injuries are part of the game, RDT. They’re not a distraction, per se. They’re an unfortunate part of the game. A player firing a gun within inches of another’ man’s dome is not part of the game, RDT. Don’t you get that? It’s something that sits in the players’ minds. They have a potential murderer in their locker room. Some of them have to be thinking if he might try the same with them, if they ever angered him. You think that’s healthy for a locker room, RDT? You played sports, RDT. As you said. Your team mate likes to pull out guns and fire a round within inches of people’s heads, to send them a message. You cool having a locker next to him? Or are you a little concerned now? HENCE, DISTRACTED?
December 4th, 2011 at 9:00 pm
good players, pros, real athletes….don’t get “distracted” just because real life happens.
Face it, sports doesn’t come down to that.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:02 pm
Trolling is in full effect now … Anyways we need to just play good on both sides n special teams .. It’s amazing this team is 7-5 with injuries and QB position turnover at middle of the season
December 4th, 2011 at 9:03 pm
What I saw today was a train wreck. A mess of chaotic proportions. Hue has the framework to take absolute control. Not a lot of room for error. Hue baby, its your for the pickins, just dont fck it up. Today was regression, but my money says we beat the Pack.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:04 pm
That is exactly what you don’t understand RMR…when you grow up in a locker-room….that comes with the territory!
It’s not a room full of Tebow’s…and usually, some of the best player’s (athletes) on your team are guys that do nothing else but lift weights, hang out in the gym, take care of business. They don’t go to class every day, work part-time to pay their tuition, do the “family” thing.
They take care of themselves and their investment in themselves, and it ain’t about an education or degree.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:04 pm
Just play good football rest of the way n we should b playoffs i mean we have seen this team beat just need to come ready to play green bay
December 4th, 2011 at 9:05 pm
RDT,
Good players don’t get distracted when they’re sitting inches away from a potential murderer? Good players don’t get distracted when they’re locker is next to a guy’s who fired a gun within inches of someone’s head a few night’s earlier? Good players aren’t distracted in the slightest by this? Good players, who have a wife and children, aren’t distracted at all by the thought of what could happen if they ever pissed this raving lunatic off? We’re not talking a fist fight, RDT. We’re talking shooting a gun within inches of another man’s head, intentionally. Good players not concerned with it? Good players with families at home? They don’t care? really?
December 4th, 2011 at 9:06 pm
RDT,
When you played sports, how many of your team mates had fired a gun within an inch of anothe’r man’s head, intentionally? During the season? And just days before a game? Answer.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:07 pm
Well said McFadden20…we have faced adversity and are still in a position to strike!
But we did not today…and that smells of poor coaching.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:08 pm
MistaBrown Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 7:31 pm
Whos respect does Seymour have? He’s a joke and should be dealt with.
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Uh, Seymour is a 5 time All Pro, 6 time Pro Bowl, 3 time World Champion. He is one of the Raider team captains. This year he was voted as Pro Football Focus Mid year All Pro. He’s All Pro. YOU ARE THE ONE WHO IS A JOKE. FUKK OFF. DON’T COME BACK.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:08 pm
I”ve had my best point-guard miss a play-off game becasue he got busted for dealing…
I’ve had my best receiver suspended in a championship game for armed robbery…
the list is long….NEXT MAN UP!!!
December 4th, 2011 at 9:09 pm
As much as today sucked and the fact is we have no idea if the Raiders will overtake the Broncos or edge out the other teams we’re tied for the final wild card spot, I do know that just like it was silly to bank on winning the division coming into this week, a whole lot can happen over the next four weeks.
I’ve seen scenarios go into Week 17 where a team needed absolutely everything to break its way and it does. There’s no projecting who will win when in the NFL. The Giants entered today one game down in the NFC East. They were playing the undefeated Packers and the Cowboys were playing the lowly Cardinals. The Giants came very close to picking up a game despite those matchups.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:09 pm
Same old fkng sh11tt today, what a bunch of sch11t! What the f**k is the matter with these knuckleheads? They play football? The mysterious odor still permeates the bowels of the Alemeda facility, its nasty and it wont go away. As a matter of fckng fact, it followed Oakland all the way to miami.
Can seymour
Can the D coordinator cause he aint no good
December 4th, 2011 at 9:09 pm
Agreed RTD. Coaches need to take a major portion of the blame for this game. Offense, defense, ST. Ugh!
December 4th, 2011 at 9:09 pm
alex7 Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 8:09 pm
wasbanned,
Ray Lewis is on week 4 and counting…on a toe injury.
Raiders went 3-1 without McFadden last month, why rush him back?
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Ray Lewis is 40 years old dude. gonna take longer to heal.
Why rush him back? Maybe because Bush can’t continue at the pace he is going.
Maybe because he is scoring threat when he touches the ball.
Why rush him back???? That is a really dumb question brother.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:11 pm
I think we truly suffer from poor game-planning, definitely on the defensive side…on Offense??? we do have a lot of injuries.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:11 pm
Sully is a douch bag 49er fan.He keeps getting kicked out of dating services because they have to refund to girls money after they go on a date with him. His game is to ask for a BJ before the appetizers are served. He sits up late at night and drinks himself to sleep. So do I know who you are Sully?
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This is still unanswered.. for that matter, avoided
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Intelligence continues to be gathered behind the scenes. You might want to stop screeching around this blog like Liberace being introduced to a Chipendales dancer.. We have kept ourselves in check so far, but you are pushing it today.. leave now
December 4th, 2011 at 9:12 pm
Chris in NY Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 9:09 pm
As much as today sucked and the fact is we have no idea if the Raiders will overtake the Broncos or edge out the other teams we’re tied for the final wild card spot, I do know that just like it was silly to bank on winning the division coming into this week, a whole lot can happen over the next four weeks.
I’ve seen scenarios go into Week 17 where a team needed absolutely everything to break its way and it does. There’s no projecting who will win when in the NFL. The Giants entered today one game down in the NFC East. They were playing the undefeated Packers and the Cowboys were playing the lowly Cardinals. The Giants came very close to picking up a game despite those matchups.
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These are not the Raiders of the glory days. There is some serious dick shriveling goin on.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:12 pm
but calling a time-out to decide if you want to challenge a call is very lame.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:13 pm
RDT, I didn’t ask you if you had a teammate that was a druggie.
Come on, RDT. Everyone knew people who did and sold drugs. No big deal.
I asked you if you ever had a teammate that fired a gun within an inch of another man’s head, intentionally.
Answer.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:13 pm
mistic cant help himself. doesnt say sh1t when palmer has us on a 3 game win streak but appears now all of a sudden. made every excuse for jc missing passes but rides on every single pass palmer makes. well palmer is 3-2 in his first 5 starts like jc was in his.hes doing this without dmc available and ford not playing much.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:16 pm
RDT,
you’re lying about having a teammate committing an armed robbery. I’m not stupid, RDT. If that were true, you would have mentioned it first, because obviously an armed robbery is closer to my example than slinging dope. Don’t bullschit me, RDT. Answer the question. Have you ever had a teammate that pulled out a gun on someone and fired that SOB within an inch of another man’s head, intentionally? Go.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:17 pm
Sullivan
I honestly think you are an intelligent and eloquent individual…but when you try to come off as an authority on sports and athletes thinking, you really go off the rails.
It’s obvious you never spent any time as a member of a team or committed any of your life or time to being a team-mate and therefore don’t have any insight to the team dynamic.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:18 pm
I just woke up…knocked the eff out after the half!!!
I guess we lost…and the Donks won?
December 4th, 2011 at 9:18 pm
Questions abound at the end of the season
1. should they deal McFadden?
2. should they make a run at DeSean Jackson?
3. can the GM reign in a quality D-Coordinator, and refocus Hue Jackson?
4. will the focus shift to high-character high football IQ guys like Wiz 2.0, but on the defensive side of the ball?
5. should the Raiders extend Bush or let him walk?
6. should the Raiders end the Seymour thing altogether and move up to replenish the interior line?
i’d say needs are MLB, OG, DT a no. 1 receiver, RB (to replace either McFadden or Bush), S, and a Right Tackle.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:19 pm
It wil be interesting to see how many raiders are in the injury list this week. If players are at 80% , i think they have to play. every game from here on out is a must win.
So If DMAC, Ford, and Moore can contribute they needs to be out there, im not for putting injuried players out on the field, but that is why they players are paid millions of dollars.
also more on that point. Murphy play is disgusting..Everytime he looks for a flag rather then the ball…HE has the Johnny Lee Higgins syndrome.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:20 pm
Some BS Never Loses Its Odor Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 9:12 pm
Chris in NY Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 9:09 pm
As much as today sucked and the fact is we have no idea if the Raiders will overtake the Broncos or edge out the other teams we’re tied for the final wild card spot, I do know that just like it was silly to bank on winning the division coming into this week, a whole lot can happen over the next four weeks.
I’ve seen scenarios go into Week 17 where a team needed absolutely everything to break its way and it does. There’s no projecting who will win when in the NFL. The Giants entered today one game down in the NFC East. They were playing the undefeated Packers and the Cowboys were playing the lowly Cardinals. The Giants came very close to picking up a game despite those matchups.
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i’d say the Raiders and Cowboys are pretty much the same. Too talented to be in the positions they are and have no business losing to the teams they lose to. You don’t know what team will show up…and they are paying players a lot compared to some of the more competitive teams that have functional backups (like the Pack and Patriots)
December 4th, 2011 at 9:20 pm
Vegas, Williams killed me but…still won!!!!
“SHOW ME THE MONEY!!!!!!!!”
December 4th, 2011 at 9:20 pm
OK, RDT, it’s a no answer. So now we both know that you never had a teammate fire a gun within an inch of someone’s head intentionally. You’ve never sat in a locker room with someone that deranged. So, now, you really can’t tell us that you’re experienced when it comes to playing on teams with people of that nature, can you, RDT? You played sports at some kind of school or program where the worst thing your teammates did was dabble in a little D slinging. Well, so you know, the Oakland Raiders right now have a guy in their locker room that fired a gun within an inch of another man’s head. He then showed no remorse when being arrested. And, they played today as if they were definitely distracted.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:20 pm
Anyone that is blaming Seymour and or Palmer for this loss needs to walk the plank. Seriously.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:21 pm
SWEET BABY JESUS….???
I GUESS HE’S REAL?
December 4th, 2011 at 9:23 pm
DaTruth91 Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 9:19 pm
It wil be interesting to see how many raiders are in the injury list this week. If players are at 80% , i think they have to play. every game from here on out is a must win.
So If DMAC, Ford, and Moore can contribute they needs to be out there, im not for putting injuried players out on the field, but that is why they players are paid millions of dollars.
also more on that point. Murphy play is disgusting..Everytime he looks for a flag rather then the ball…HE has the Johnny Lee Higgins syndrome.
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Murphy is pretty much done. Raiders should look to find a change-of-pace back that can catch in the open field – if its Taiwan Jones, ok, but look what Darren Sproles did for the Saints. I also think they need to get a DC that can initiate a major change in the defense in terms of getting them up overall – they are last v. the run….need to get more “intangibles” type players like Wisniewski. One only wonders what a run Denarious Moore could’ve made … but they have too many “pieces” and not enough impact players that are durable throughout the season – they may need to take a break on the 4.3 stop watch types and get some 4.0 GPA football IQ guys.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:24 pm
Sullivan…you conveniently forgot the armed robbery incident I mentioned….
but that is what you do and I am tired of your single-point circle-jerk.
Take your craziness elsewhere…we’re all full up here.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:24 pm
BTW, RDT, you’re wrong about me having never been on a team. I played high school football, varsity level. We had a few criminals, but nobody in our locker room that fired a gun within an inch of someone’s head during the season. And we now know that you had nobody like that in your locker room, either. For all intents and purposes, RDT, you’re no more experienced than I am when it comes to team sports. So that little spin strategy of yours has been crushed like a bug as well. Are you ready to just admit that McClain created a devastating distraction for this team this week? Or do you want to keep getting pimp slapped back into reality? Your choice.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:24 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 9:20 pm
Anyone that is blaming Seymour and or Palmer for this loss needs to walk the plank. Seriously.
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the only reason Seymour and Palmer are here, is because Sapp, JaMarcus Russell and a bunch of other failed picks didn’t materialize.
G.M. and Scouting..and get out of the way – do it right, and have a blueprint to reload as well as rebuild.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:25 pm
And while we have some tough games ahead here, I wouldn’t be surprised if Denver drops its next three. I really wouldn’t.
As bad as Hanie and the Bears offense looked today — don’t forget KC’s D is coming on and made the Steelers offense look just as bad last week — I can definitely see Chicago knocking them off. Chicago, which is still clinging to its own wild card spot, is very capable of completely shutting down Denver’s offense and getting points of its own as well.
Follow that up with a game against New England, another tough test for Denver, and a game at Buffalo that could be tight for Denver much like each of their last few wins and finally slide the other way.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:25 pm
RDT,
You lied about the armed robbery. Because if it were true, you would have mentioned that first. Come on, RDT. Yo’ure honestly going to mention a drug dealer before an armed robber? Considering how closer the latter is to the topic at hand? I’m not stupid, RDT. I’m not a typical Raider homer. I have a brain. You can’t pull that crap on me. You know that.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:26 pm
Raiders need to hire a GM that answers only to the owners!
December 4th, 2011 at 9:27 pm
but they have too many “pieces” and not enough impact players that are durable throughout the season – they may need to take a break on the 4.3 stop watch types and get some 4.0 GPA football IQ guys.
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The COACH needs to grow a pair and shove his foot in his mouth!!!!
Freakin… play the effin guys, obviously…we know now, we need them!!!
December 4th, 2011 at 9:27 pm
RaiderOnHigh Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 9:03 pm
What I saw today was a train wreck. A mess of chaotic proportions. Hue has the framework to take absolute control. Not a lot of room for error. Hue baby, its your for the pickins, just dont fck it up. Today was regression, but my money says we beat the Pack.
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Hue needs help. He needs to find any number of D.C.’s who were head coaches (Del Rio, Mangini maybe Lovie Smith (if he gets axed along with Jerry Angelo) and they have to look for more focused players. The uneven drafts caught up with them and the vets are gassed around November – just like last year. They have some pieces, but they have to beg , borrow or steal for additional picks. Tebow was the real deal, and that was a real fear …. they are trading the future, because the past picks didn’t pan out.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:28 pm
Raiders need to find out if Mr. B. Campbell & Mr. Barksdale can play in this league.
Raiders OLine against Green Bay should be:
Vehldeer, Barksdale, Wisniewski, Carlisle, Campbell
(Mr. Satele, Mr. Barnes, Mr. Heyer> all back ups).
December 4th, 2011 at 9:29 pm
Sullivan
this is my last reply to you…
I mentioned them chronilogically…high school, then university, and not even going to enlighten you on who and what I was involved or dealt with after that.
Take your dime-store theology elsewhere…not interested.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:29 pm
R8eray Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 9:27 pm
but they have too many “pieces” and not enough impact players that are durable throughout the season – they may need to take a break on the 4.3 stop watch types and get some 4.0 GPA football IQ guys.
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The COACH needs to grow a pair and shove his foot in his mouth!!!!
Freakin… play the effin guys, obviously…we know now, we need them!!!
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I agree. Man up! I still think that locker room is a little loose…gotta get guys who have the fire, intensity and discipline…very hard to change the culture here.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:31 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 9:28 pm
Raiders need to find out if Mr. B. Campbell & Mr. Barksdale can play in this league.
Raiders OLine against Green Bay should be:
Vehldeer, Barksdale, Wisniewski, Carlisle, Campbell
(Mr. Satele, Mr. Barnes, Mr. Heyer> all back ups).
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play em or trade em – i think he said Campbell’s injury slowed his ability to get reps and absorb the offense, then Wiz played too well, and Carlisle improved as well (but he’s obviously toward the end) Satele just won’t come out, even if he is hurt.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:31 pm
Raiders will need both Mr. McFadden and our starting WRs: Mr. Ford & Mr. Moore.
todays game had that eerie 2008 & 2009 season feeling w/ Chaz, Murphy, & DHB playing WR.
At any moment I was expecting jamrcus and/or mario to step out onto the field.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:32 pm
the only reason Seymour and Palmer are here, is because Sapp, JaMarcus Russell and a bunch of other failed picks didn’t materialize.
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Well, yes and no. You are absolutely right that most smart good teams have learned to build thru the draft. As Bill Polian the GM of Indianapolis will tell you, and he is one of the best in the business, “the draft is a crap shoot.” You are right that you have to draft well, but no one bats a thousand picking college players.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:32 pm
PS Sullivan
I did have to disarm a guy who attacked me in the locker-room because I blamed “n1gga-ball” for the reason we lost a crucial game.
We won the next game…we played great together.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:32 pm
Chris In NY Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 9:25 pm
And while we have some tough games ahead here, I wouldn’t be surprised if Denver drops its next three. I really wouldn’t.
As bad as Hanie and the Bears offense looked today — don’t forget KC’s D is coming on and made the Steelers offense look just as bad last week — I can definitely see Chicago knocking them off. Chicago, which is still clinging to its own wild card spot, is very capable of completely shutting down Denver’s offense and getting points of its own as well.
Follow that up with a game against New England, another tough test for Denver, and a game at Buffalo that could be tight for Denver much like each of their last few wins and finally slide the other way.
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Defense is responding to Tebow, and Hanie was terrible…Forte is out, and Bears are disciplined, but i don’t think its enough.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:33 pm
RDT, quit being stupid, alright? Chronologically. lol. Good grief, dude. You know I’m not that stupid. You know I KNOW that if you really ever played sports with an armed robber, you would have brought that up FIRST in this discussion. Why would you even bring up a drug dealer? Like that matters? EVERYONE knows a drug dealer or too. You know why. Because a drug dealer is the worst type of team mate you ever had. You’ve never had a team mate as violent as McClain. You’ve never shared a locker room with a potential killer like McClain. So, you have NO EXPERIENCE in team sports with a team mate that violent. So therefore, you have no credentials or high ground to give an credible opinion as to whether or not a team could be distracted by such a thing. Glad you finally decided to shut up.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:35 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 9:28 pm
Raiders need to find out if Mr. B. Campbell & Mr. Barksdale can play in this league.
Raiders OLine against Green Bay should be:
Vehldeer, Barksdale, Wisniewski, Carlisle, Campbell
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I can already answer that. They can’t play. If they COULD, they would already be out there. In the Minn game when Satele went out late in the lst half, they lined up like you said, we got our asses WHIPPED in the 2nd half. Go look at the tape.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:35 pm
the drug dealer was my best friend and that was the first incident and the eye-opener, he never made it out…I did.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:35 pm
Random Drug Tester Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 9:32 pm
PS Sullivan
I did have to disarm a guy who attacked me in the locker-room because I blamed “n1gga-ball” for the reason we lost a crucial game.
We won the next game…we played great together.
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OH STFU YOU LIAR! YOU WOULD HAVE MENTIONED THAT BEFORE YOU EVEN MENTIONED THE MAKE BELIEVE ARMED ROBBER! YOU’RE JUST MAKING UP ONE FANTASY AFTER ANOTHER NOW. YOU SAID YOU WERE DONE. SO, BY ALL MEANS, BOW OUT BEFORE YOU GET YOUR ASS KICKED ANY FURTHER, STUPID F’N LIAR. YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT PLAYING TEAM SPORTS WITH A VIOLENT MANIAC LIKE ROLANDO MCCLAIN. SHAME ON YOU FOR TRYING TO SPEAK AS IF YOU HAVE, LIAR.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:36 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 9:32 pm
the only reason Seymour and Palmer are here, is because Sapp, JaMarcus Russell and a bunch of other failed picks didn’t materialize.
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Well, yes and no. You are absolutely right that most smart good teams have learned to build thru the draft. As Bill Polian the GM of Indianapolis will tell you, and he is one of the best in the business, “the draft is a crap shoot.” You are right that you have to draft well, but no one bats a thousand picking college players.
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Draft is a crap shoot…and we’ve rolled snake-eyes, until Veldheer-Ford-Houston-Shaughnessy and Wiz 2.0 They haven’t had one for so long, and now they have no picks
December 4th, 2011 at 9:36 pm
BTW Sullivan…he is dead now, killed a long time ago, by another athlete playing their way on the longer road.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:38 pm
Random Drug Tester Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 9:35 pm
the drug dealer was my best friend and that was the first incident and the eye-opener, he never made it out…I did.
………..
And that right there is the closest real life experience you have to what the Raiders are going through with Rolando McClain.
Raiders ‘ case: A guy shooting a bullet within an inch of another guy’s head, just days before a game.
Your case: Your little bff turning into a druggie.
Not quite the same thing. So please, STFU and GTFO.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:40 pm
Sullivan
You are so devoid of experience and all you have is “logic” or something similar. I haven’t even scratched the surface of all the individuals I have played, roomed, showered, been on the road with.
You have no understanding of it because you have no experience or knowledge.
Let it go…you don’t have anything to win here, and ergo…neither do I so I am now done with you.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:40 pm
RDT, I would ask you to give me the guy’s name, so I could look up the obit or any news article discussing his death. But there’s no chance of salvaging your credibility at this point, anyway. You’re just on a lying binge right now, making up one thing after another.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:41 pm
So small a man…yet such a big loser…hard to believe.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:41 pm
RDT,
Your experience regarding team sports and having potential murderers as teammates consists of having a bff that turned into a druggie. You fall a little short on qualification. So STFU.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:41 pm
wasbanned,
based on what you’ve seen the last month, you would start a slightly injured McFadden over a healthy Bush??
??
December 4th, 2011 at 9:42 pm
RDT,
You’re lying about your life to give the impression that you have experience at something. That’s as small as it gets. Right now you’re a midget.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:44 pm
feeling tough now and better about yourself RMR?
Glad I could help.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:46 pm
Anyhow, let’s run it down again:
- Rolando McClain gets arrested for firing a gun within an inch of a man’s head.
- When being arrested, make a bizarre pose, as if he’s taunting the world.
- This all happening just days before a game.
- Team plays more distracted than usual, after playing great 3 weeks straight.
- RDT doesn’t believe there’s any connection between the two.
- RDT tried to cite his own experience in team sports as evidence to his beliefs.
- RDT was caught lying about said experience.
- RDT actually has no clue what it’s like to have a teammate as violent as Rolando McClain
- RDT therefore has no credibility, experience, or high ground to insist as fact that the team wasn’t distracted by the McClain incident.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:46 pm
Unfortunately Taiwan Jones got injured too and we didn’t get a chance to see what he’s got.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:46 pm
Sullivan44 aka: MR and various other trolls = APD.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:47 pm
RDT, you feel like a liar now? Glad I could help by exposing you. Armed robbery. Ha ha hahhahaha!!!!!!!!!!!
December 4th, 2011 at 9:47 pm
seek help dude.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:48 pm
Stop lying dude.
Stop talking about things you know nothing about, dude.
Rolando McClain created a devastating distraction for the team this week, dude.
Anyone with REAL team sports experience knows this.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:50 pm
This football team now has a guy in their locker room that could be a killer. They know he fired a gun within an inch of another man’s head. They know he couldn’t give a rat’s ass when he was arrested. The team is 0-1 since this stench has permeated their locker room. We’ll see how long it lasts.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:50 pm
it was probably a guy exactly like you whose eardrum McLain decided needed a cap popped off beside.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:50 pm
Ignore him RDT. He should be talking to a psychiatrist, not Raiders fans. Definite APD.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:51 pm
put a tampon in this guy
December 4th, 2011 at 9:51 pm
If anyone here thinks the Raiders looked different today than they did the previous 3 weeks, consider that a team mate of theirs was arrested for firing a gun within an inch of a man’s head a few days ago, intentionally.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:51 pm
Raiders lost to the Dolphins last year too.
Just less physical, not a good match-up, and east coast game to boot.
Vegas was not surprised, and Raiders were underdogs even before the McClain incident.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:52 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 9:41 pm
RDT,
Your experience regarding team sports and having potential murderers as teammates consists of having a bff that turned into a druggie.
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Dougie?
Teach me how to dougie
Teach me, teach me how to dougie!!!
All my b!tche$ love me
All my, all my b!tche$ love me!!!
December 4th, 2011 at 9:52 pm
APD?
December 4th, 2011 at 9:52 pm
but they have too many “pieces” and not enough impact players that are durable throughout the season – they may need to take a break on the 4.3 stop watch types and get some 4.0 GPA football IQ guys.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I completely agree. But to Hue’s credit, that have done a good job of bringing in smarter players for the future.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:54 pm
Are you mad now, RDT?
You want me to get shot?
Really?
RDT, I warned you at the start of this discussion, give up, or get pimp slapped repeatedly. You knew this was a fight you couldn’t win, from the get go. I warned you. I told you to go to bed. But instead you spent the next hour making up a bunch of b.s. about teammates you’ve had, and how a near murder wouldn’t create a distraction for a team, etc. You trip on your own story, exposing yourself as a liar. I jump all over you for it. Now you’re mad. Now you’re talking about someone shooting me. Now you’re emotional. See how this works? If you would have just hung it up earlier, you’d be a happy man right now. Now, you’re at rock bottom.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:55 pm
#588: Anti-social Personality Disorder…Close to full-blown psychopathy. I might be giving him a bit of a break on this one.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:55 pm
whatever works for ya little man
December 4th, 2011 at 9:55 pm
nail on the head there CanuckRaider
December 4th, 2011 at 9:55 pm
Alex,
Vegas had Fins by I think 3. Did the Raiders lose by 3 today? Sure, Fins might have won anyway. But if you didn’t see a difference between today’s Raiders and the Raiders of the previous 3 weeks, who’d also played decent teams (Da bears, anyone?), then you might have smoked some of what RDT is smoking.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:56 pm
The delusional one…..
1. The only thing I like about our military is that dumb rednecks go there to die……
2. I’ll be at the pine cove tonight at 9pm. Any of you homos want to meet me there, I’m game. But not for any freaky schit you guys are into. But of course neither of you punks will show…..
3. I GUARANTEE YOU WILL HAVE AN EXCUSE WHY YOU DIDN’T SHOW. I’ll ever bring my camcorder and record me screaming out and post it online, on youtube, to prove it. Start the excuses……
4. Let’s settle this, once and for all, you cowards. I’ll be there. Will you? Save the ‘I didn’t really think it was you’ copout, because I’m tired of you mouths sprouting off where it’s safe. Show up, or back the hell off, because I named the time and place, and all you have to do is show up……
5. Pine Cove Tavern
502 29th St
Sacramento, CA 95816
Cross St is E St….. Any questions?……
6. You won’t be there autopalm, so show up……
7. I’m here to call out the spineless who are all talk……
All talk and zero substance………I waited in that stick ass bar for this COWARD to show up….No, not therapy….A beating…..
December 4th, 2011 at 9:57 pm
I just realized that a game like today’s, with no running game, and lots of pressure, is one where JC would have…
thrown 3 picks, taken 4 sacks, looked scared, taken a ghost sack with no one around, had that 30 QB rating.
lol, glad I don’t see that anymore.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:57 pm
Miami by 2.5 Wednesday Sullivan
try telling the truth once in a while
December 4th, 2011 at 9:59 pm
Bottom line this was a completely different Raider team, intensity and effort wise, than what took the field the previous 3 weeks, one of those 3 opponents being the Chicago freaking Bears for crying out loud. Add to that a player getting arrested for nearly killing someone, and showing no remorse, taunting a cameraman when arrested.
Dolphins were predicted to win anyway?
Sure.
By what, 3 points?
Well, they won by a little more than 3, didn’t they?
clearly even the oddsmakers didn’t see this coming. But I guarantee you guys that played for the ‘98 Falcons and the ‘02 Raiders did.
December 4th, 2011 at 10:00 pm
and i have to comment on all that hate on Seymour.
from someone that played DIV 1 football, Seymour is not the problem on the defensive line.
let me break it down:
1. raiders run gap control defense. Meaning, if he has A gap ( or 0 gap) no one goes through there.
2. Even though he doesnt get a push like he use to, he also rarely gets knocked backwards.
3. must of the runs through his side are not his fault, the LB’s are late to react and fill up the whole.
4. if anyone noticed the effect of Lamar houston playing (his natural postion) DT when seymour was ejected…he got his ass handed to him, included being pancaked on the Moore draw play for the TD
I think all the hate for seymour is because he got tossed…and truth be told, he deserves it…EXCEPT for today…That was a BS call. seymours ” punch ” happens in every game , every week, by every position.
December 4th, 2011 at 10:00 pm
KC beat Chicago 10-3
December 4th, 2011 at 10:00 pm
#597: Compulsive lying is a universal trait of individuals who are APD or psychopaths.
December 4th, 2011 at 10:01 pm
I didn’t know until a I read an article about McClain’s family that his mother is bi-polar.
As manic-depression runs in families, I wondered if it was at all possible that the illness might have manifested itself in Rolando. When it strikes, it most often strikes initially in the early adult years. I am not suggesting that this *is* the reason for his odd behavior, only that I thought about it and am still leaving open the possibility that strange and unaccounted for behavior (even IF he didn’t do what the police report stipulates, his decision to pose smiling for that arrest picture was the behavior of man not making a good choice) could be the result of something biological in origin.
The treatment for bi-polar disorder is a real crapshoot, with some people helped immensely by medication and others hopelessly lost no matter the treatment and meds prescribed.
I hope this young man has not inherited this beast of a mental illness. While full-blown manic episodes like that of Barrett Robbins cause behavior that is noticeably “crazy,” the sufferer who is hypo-manic is often undiagnosed until his or her behavior seems a bit stranger than usual.
December 4th, 2011 at 10:02 pm
I think it’s a safe bet that when an underdog team has a player get arrested for nearly killing someone a few days before a game, take the favorite to cover.
December 4th, 2011 at 10:02 pm
Most of the players today took a great big shat on Coach Davis, Coach Hue, the Raider Nation, and all things Raider. The defense co-ordinator shat on hisself.
December 4th, 2011 at 10:04 pm
Hopefully Hue will do the right thing and deactivate McClain. One loss is enough. This guy could be a murderer. What happens if a team mate angers him? No way, don’t even take the chance. We ignored Barret Robbin’s problems. Said it was just the Raider way. Barret’s crazy? Sure. This is the franchise that brought in the Tooz, man! We can handle him. Well, what happened? Let’s learn from the past. Get McClain the hell out of here.
December 4th, 2011 at 10:04 pm
I forgot to add that many times bi-polars who have gone undiagnosed are often burdened by subclinical levels of depression, making them appear standoffish and a bit anti-social.
December 4th, 2011 at 10:04 pm
Pine Cove is little hole in the wall…couldn’t even find the place!!!
December 4th, 2011 at 10:05 pm
Sullivan thinks there are no “un-predictable” people on a 53-man roster where violence is inherent in the game.
Silly Sully.
December 4th, 2011 at 10:05 pm
Bizarre.
December 4th, 2011 at 10:05 pm
Next to the freeway…..missed my exit!
December 4th, 2011 at 10:06 pm
I had no problem finding it…..
December 4th, 2011 at 10:08 pm
The dirt bag I was supposed to meet there couldn’t….
December 4th, 2011 at 10:08 pm
Look at it this way…if McClain’s deactivated for this game, does it make a difference? We got blown out. How much worse could it have been without McCclain? Chemistry wise, it could have been better. Just having him away from the locker room could have given the players the right message that winning comes first around here, and anything detrimental to it is not tolerated. …not to mention the fact that a potential murderer is no longer sitting amongst them. That could give anyone the creeps. Things could have only been for the better today without McClain. Learn from this Hue. Deactivate him NOW.
December 4th, 2011 at 10:08 pm
what the fck dude? are you fcking serious? no fcking way. whay all of a sudden this team just rolls a fcking gutter ball? WTF? there is some serious bozo schit goin on, and these fcking clowns better figure it the fck out. WTF? Denver has a full head of steam and plowin straight at us. Look out Hue, this train wreck better get fixed. Amy needs to step into the locker room and put her foot up a few players ass. Amy needs to show that pimp hand. Seymor could use it. Why did this team just mail it in? WTF?!
December 4th, 2011 at 10:09 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 10:08 pm
Look at it this way…if McClain’s deactivated for this game, does it make a difference? We got blown out. How much worse could it have been without McCclain? Chemistry wise, it could have been better. Just having him away from the locker room could have given the players the right message that winning comes first around here, and anything detrimental to it is not tolerated.
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Word.
December 4th, 2011 at 10:10 pm
December 4th, 2011 at 10:12 pm
Honestly, I don’t think we miss anything by losing McClain. I think any of his back ups could match his production. And they’re certainly less of a risk where distractions and team chemistry is concerned. We miss nothing by letting McClain go.
December 4th, 2011 at 10:13 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 10:12 pm
Honestly, I don’t think we miss anything by losing McClain. I think any of his back ups could match his production. And they’re certainly less of a risk where distractions and team chemistry is concerned. We miss nothing by letting McClain go.
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Word.
December 4th, 2011 at 10:15 pm
A Football Christmas Story.
My son’s troop has worked 49er games for 12 years now. Last week, despite the rain, the poor walking conditions in the bathroom and elsewhere, the troop showed up and did its job, mostly.
Near the end of the 4th quarter, some guy on the third deck showed up with a free hot dog coupon and wanted his hot dog. We were out of hotdogs. So the guy says make me one. We explained that the hot dog bags contain 32 dogs and we would have to throw away all those dogs to make him one. Further, we would get charged for the waste at booth prices, leaving us with basically no profit. We suggested he check at another booth, and pointed him toward several that still appeared to have dogs. This kind gentlemen reported us to the 49ers. Granted I guess some sanctions were in order. Anyway, the 49ers ordered us fired at the last minute. This weekend was our last game of the season, anyway, but the money is important to our boys. Thanks for the support and loyalty 49ers. Fortunately, as the day went on, we found other supporters that stepped up to help us out. Santa Clara has my sincere regrets. They will need it if they deal with these idiots. Clearly, some politicians in the city have football lights in their eyes and are blind to everything else. Maybe here is a reason none of their other agreements worked out. UGH!!!!
Loyalty is a rare commodity today.
December 4th, 2011 at 10:21 pm
From the Miami Herald:
QUARTERBACK
Matt Moore did everything the Dolphins needed him to do. He kept plays and drives alive with his legs. He connected on enough passes (13) to keep the secondary honest. And he didn’t throw an interception or fumble (like he did against Dallas). A performance like this wouldn’t be good enough against a high-powered offense. He’s not a candidate for player of the week. But Moore helped his team win, which is most important. GRADE: B.
RUNNING BACKS
It must be said the Raiders are not good at stopping the run. But it also must be said the Dolphins made the Raiders look terrible at it. Reggie Bush not only got into space but also broke tackles as he turned the second level into his home. Daniel Thomas was similarly effective, although he did most of his damage between the tackles. This was probably Miami’s most complete rushing performance by its backs when you also factor Lex Hilliard converted two third-down carries. GRADE: A.
RECEIVERS/TIGHT ENDS
Charles Clay dropped a couple of passes. Brandon Marshall might have had a drop. And Davone Bess had a drop. But with Anthony Fasano running wide-open in the secondary to the tune of 66 yards on four catches, that was good enough to keep the Raiders honest against the run. GRADE: B-minus.
OFFENSIVE LINE
Vernon Carey missed the game with an ankle injury, and he was replaced by John Jerry. Jerry clearly missed a couple of blocks. But the youngster wasn’t a disaster. The rest of the line, meanwhile, chewed up the Raiders’ front. It was such a mauling that a clearly frustrated Richard Seymour was flagged for throwing a punch at Richie Incognito and was ejected. Mike Pouncey is still snapping some shotgun attempts a bit high, but it didn’t hurt the Dolphins. The line yielded one sack. GRADE: B.
DEFENSIVE LINE
Yes, the outside linebackers often get credit for Miami’s quarterback hurries, but in this game the defensive line was in Palmer’s face from every angle, including up the middle where he was clearly uncomfortable. It gets better: The Raiders were averaging 5 yards per rush coming into the game; they averaged 3.3 yards per rush against Miami. Michael Bush was nothing more than tumbleweed en route to 18 yards on 10 carries. GRADE: A.
LINEBACKERS
Kevin Burnett, signed for his pass-coverage prowess, finally paid a dividend when he intercepted a pass and returned it for a third-quarter touchdown. He also had a sack in what was the best game of his season. Karlos Dansby led the team in tackles — again. One of them went for a loss. And Jason Taylor was effective enough to force a holding penalty. Koa Misi? One tackle. GRADE: B.
SECONDARY
Before the fourth quarter, before the Raiders started collecting garbage-time stats, the Miami secondary was outstanding. Palmer was completing less than half his throws, and his quarterback rating was bad. Vontae Davis even had a sack. Palmer warmed up in the final stanza and the Raiders scored on two touchdown passes, but they were inconsequential and, therefore, not reflected in this grade. GRADE: A.
SPECIAL TEAMS
Clyde Gates finally showed up and delivered a 77-yard kickoff return that set up a third quarter touchdown. Brandon Fields out-punted Shane Lechler. And Dan Carpenter, tweaked groin and all, connected on both his field-goal tries. What more can you ask? GRADE: A.
COACHING
Jake Long slotted out wide? Awesome! Next time, throw it to him! Blitzes from cornerbacks, followed by ones up the gut? Cool. It wasn’t just about playing hard with the Dolphins this game. The Dolphins are clearly playing better. That’s fine coaching. GRADE: A.
OVERALL
The Dolphins are a .500 team! Well, they’re 3-3 at home. That’s better than last year’s 1-7. Miami next plays host to the Philadelphia Eagles on Sunday in a battle of 4-8 squads. GRADE: A.
Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/12/05/2531670/grading-the-game-dolphins-vs-raiders.html#ixzz1fdeY96Tm
December 4th, 2011 at 10:25 pm
qodrn Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 10:21 pm
From the Miami Herald:
QUARTERBACK
Matt Moore did everything the Dolphins needed him to do. He kept plays and drives alive with his legs. He connected on enough passes (13) to keep the secondary honest. And he didn’t throw an interception or fumble (like he did against Dallas). A performance like this wouldn’t be good enough against a high-powered offense. He’s not a candidate for player of the week. But Moore helped his team win, which is most important. GRADE: B.
RUNNING BACKS
It must be said the Raiders are not good at stopping the run. But it also must be said the Dolphins made the Raiders look terrible at it. Reggie Bush not only got into space but also broke tackles as he turned the second level into his home. Daniel Thomas was similarly effective, although he did most of his damage between the tackles. This was probably Miami’s most complete rushing performance by its backs when you also factor Lex Hilliard converted two third-down carries. GRADE: A.
RECEIVERS/TIGHT ENDS
Charles Clay dropped a couple of passes. Brandon Marshall might have had a drop. And Davone Bess had a drop. But with Anthony Fasano running wide-open in the secondary to the tune of 66 yards on four catches, that was good enough to keep the Raiders honest against the run. GRADE: B-minus.
OFFENSIVE LINE
Vernon Carey missed the game with an ankle injury, and he was replaced by John Jerry. Jerry clearly missed a couple of blocks. But the youngster wasn’t a disaster. The rest of the line, meanwhile, chewed up the Raiders’ front. It was such a mauling that a clearly frustrated Richard Seymour was flagged for throwing a punch at Richie Incognito and was ejected. Mike Pouncey is still snapping some shotgun attempts a bit high, but it didn’t hurt the Dolphins. The line yielded one sack. GRADE: B.
DEFENSIVE LINE
Yes, the outside linebackers often get credit for Miami’s quarterback hurries, but in this game the defensive line was in Palmer’s face from every angle, including up the middle where he was clearly uncomfortable. It gets better: The Raiders were averaging 5 yards per rush coming into the game; they averaged 3.3 yards per rush against Miami. Michael Bush was nothing more than tumbleweed en route to 18 yards on 10 carries. GRADE: A.
LINEBACKERS
Kevin Burnett, signed for his pass-coverage prowess, finally paid a dividend when he intercepted a pass and returned it for a third-quarter touchdown. He also had a sack in what was the best game of his season. Karlos Dansby led the team in tackles — again. One of them went for a loss. And Jason Taylor was effective enough to force a holding penalty. Koa Misi? One tackle. GRADE: B.
SECONDARY
Before the fourth quarter, before the Raiders started collecting garbage-time stats, the Miami secondary was outstanding. Palmer was completing less than half his throws, and his quarterback rating was bad. Vontae Davis even had a sack. Palmer warmed up in the final stanza and the Raiders scored on two touchdown passes, but they were inconsequential and, therefore, not reflected in this grade. GRADE: A.
SPECIAL TEAMS
Clyde Gates finally showed up and delivered a 77-yard kickoff return that set up a third quarter touchdown. Brandon Fields out-punted Shane Lechler. And Dan Carpenter, tweaked groin and all, connected on both his field-goal tries. What more can you ask? GRADE: A.
COACHING
Jake Long slotted out wide? Awesome! Next time, throw it to him! Blitzes from cornerbacks, followed by ones up the gut? Cool. It wasn’t just about playing hard with the Dolphins this game. The Dolphins are clearly playing better. That’s fine coaching. GRADE: A.
OVERALL
The Dolphins are a .500 team! Well, they’re 3-3 at home. That’s better than last year’s 1-7. Miami next plays host to the Philadelphia Eagles on Sunday in a battle of 4-8 squads. GRADE: A.
Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/12/05/2531670/grading-the-game-dolphins-vs-raiders.html#ixzz1fdeY96Tm
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Oh Well, as they say, you can lead a horse to water but you can’t make it drink it.
But I say you need to create a thirst in the horse and then lead it to water.
December 4th, 2011 at 10:25 pm
Q,
you should have gone RoMac on him.
December 4th, 2011 at 10:27 pm
this one hurts gentlemen, this one hurts.
December 4th, 2011 at 10:29 pm
Ganja,
it’s no big deal.
Step back, realize it’s just men in funny pants playing with a ball, and let’s get back to work tomorrow doing things that are more important.
December 4th, 2011 at 10:30 pm
Just had to drop in here, first timer, and say:
I just don’t get it. SMH
December 4th, 2011 at 10:30 pm
Get mr,sully,halverson,mrs,alex,get him/you the Hell out of here
December 4th, 2011 at 10:30 pm
Complete different Raider team took the field today. We’ll see what happens. We tank this season, we’ll tally up the numbers before and after McClain incident. It will tell a story.
December 4th, 2011 at 10:32 pm
Bush got exposed today. I’m less worried abut him leaving, which he will, because he proved he’s not a devastating runner unless it’s against a smaller DB. Also, he simply can’t/won’t pass block and is a liability in there on passing downs. He will get our qB killed. He has more whiffs than Rolando McWhiffer. Bush is not a starting RB. He’s fine as a change of pace but beyond 29 attempts and he’s out of gas AND as I said earlier, he can’t block. Our O-line really ate the big one today but Bush was unable to get beyond the LOS on his own. Certainly not a quality I’d want in my starting RB. TKJones, while being a speedy runner, can’t block either. We need our change of pace RB to be able to pass block. That’s not a like to have, it’s a must have.
Bush will be gone next year and so be it. He is replaceable. While I’m on this rant, what’s with “I always catch the ball” Housmanzada? Bring back Hagen. We got short sheeted on that deal. The only thing Housh can catch is a cold.
If Hujack want to accept responsibility for this loss as he’s said in his presser, let’s see him fine himself $100,000. for incompetence to show us that statement means something. Otherwise, just lip service.
I’m not as optimistic as some on here. To me, today’s loss was the death nail. I’ll be planning for next year when HueJack will tell us of our goal to get to the playoffs. No doubt, the injuries killed us this year.
December 4th, 2011 at 10:34 pm
Oh Well, as they say, you can lead a horse to water but you can’t make it drink it.
But I say you need to create a thirst in the horse and then lead it to water.
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Time to quit beatin the dead horse.
December 4th, 2011 at 10:39 pm
ganja drippings Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 10:27 pm
this one hurts gentlemen, this one hurts.
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It really does. This is a game that we should have won. It is a very painful loss considering we were on a win streak and things were looking bright. Got kicked in the keyster and it hurts.
December 4th, 2011 at 10:41 pm
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December 4th, 2011 at 10:54 pm
Bush didn’t get exposed. He’s a power runner playing the role of 1st string HB because the 1st string HB is hurt. Bush is at his best between the center and guard, just putting his head down. And when DMac is back, he’ll be back do doing that. He’s playing DMac, and while it works against poor run defenses, it’s not so hot against teams that can play the run.
December 4th, 2011 at 10:55 pm
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December 4th, 2011 at 10:55 pm
The whole team looked distracted today. And we all know why.
December 4th, 2011 at 11:06 pm
Fck sullivan i have to give it too you…. your a persistent fker….. But like xmas carols, reading your repetitive commens can be painful..
December 4th, 2011 at 11:06 pm
There have been games this year where we were teased by really solid play by one or another or even several element(s) of this team (running, passing, o-line, d-line, special teams, etc). Dominant play at times! In fact, enough of the team showed often enough to be at 7-4. However, at some time or another during each of the now five losses, the whole team went into a tailspin from which there was not enough leadership to recover.
This Miami game really upset me as it progressed. There was a surreal element. WTF? How could this be happening? To some extent, the loss reflected the significance of the injured personnel. There’s no question that too many key players are not on the field. To a greater extent, though, it reflected a group lacking leadership and confidence.
The old saying, “when the going gets tough, the tough get going,” is a bit worn and trite, but its message is age old. There is a great group of talent on the 2011 Raiders, but somehow that talent has a hard time assembling into a cohesive group way too often.
December 4th, 2011 at 11:19 pm
That’s cause the truth hurts, Mamba.
December 4th, 2011 at 11:24 pm
lol
December 4th, 2011 at 11:47 pm
qodrn Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 10:15 pm
A Football Christmas Story.
For a minute I though that it was your writing. Great find!!
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That is why I will place the most blame on the coaching. For at lease a decade players have passed through this camp and found a home elsewhere and have been very productive in those places. how was if done you ask? well it was a vision higher than self and a organization better equipped for success. Hue is the stepping stone I don’t deny that. A action causes a reaction and for the correct action to take they must know they did corrective action. Hue, the D needs some kind of structure. You should know the players by now!!!!! What is it? The entire D, D-line D- secondary, don’t tell us just fix it. Did Denver Draft new D backs after the dead line that the NFL did not know about? How did the D of the Bengals emerge in one of the most competitive divisions get and stay competitive? Strives have been made on the offensive side so let get to that complete game your always talking about. MAKE A DIFFERENCE!!!!! NOW.
December 4th, 2011 at 11:52 pm
for those of you who didn’t know one of silly scotty sully’s temporary jobs within the last year was one as a journalist covering the 49ers….Please take a moment to familiarize yourself with his expertise…
http://youtu.be/wgHlCFe5_Aw
EDITORIAL NOTE…..ALL OF silly scotty sully’s jobs have been temporary as a result of his inability to hold a job for more than a week….WONDERING WHY….
December 4th, 2011 at 11:55 pm
there’s nothing Hue can do until February.
December 5th, 2011 at 12:10 am
I don’t mean getting rid of personnel. He needs to Generate the personnal to perform better.The simpler interference on D the better. ALL season long as not brought a 60 minute game for a win all year. I AM TALKING ONLY DEFENSE. Defense needs to win a game. That means defense scoring more that offense if your offensise does score 14 pionts of more. Can you remember that beening done? If you do tell me about it.
December 5th, 2011 at 12:12 am
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http://youtu.be/VamD2nrf3ug
WARNING…..Please be advised that no human being should be subject to witnessing silly scotty sully during one of his drunken binges while on the Raiders blog and interacting with his mother, therefore, viewer decretion is STRONGLY advised….!!! This content is rated “Y”….Please, again, ask yourself the same thing……..
December 5th, 2011 at 12:16 am
I swear. I wish there was an ignore app so I can use it. .. to ignore 7-8 posters with their idiotic and agitating comments… funny thing is all those stupid posters is the same crackpot…
December 5th, 2011 at 12:23 am
Listen, Hue can do as little as addressing the D coaches to pick the game up and as far as asking each player what is stopping you from doing your job. It does not matter the approach he takes. What matters is the results!!!!!
December 5th, 2011 at 12:24 am
Okay so here we are at 7-5 n still tied for first n everybody is crying like we just lost in the superbowl or something
December 5th, 2011 at 12:26 am
The running game didn’t suddenly get worse Jerry.
We just faced maybe the best defense we’ve seen so far.
Miami are way underated becaues of their poor start.
They’re 7th against the run.
We had trouble with Chicago as and they’re 8th against the run.
December 5th, 2011 at 12:27 am
The Raiders didn’t look ready to play to me.
I lost count of many one-armed tackles I saw on receivers and backs.
Real sloppy.
December 5th, 2011 at 12:27 am
Code Black **
December 5th, 2011 at 12:29 am
Injuries have really taken its toll on this team… our highly paid defense is not doing the job… our offense needs a go to wide receiver that is going to be motivated to perform each and every week… we have a lot of and c players… not enough A’s..
..especially on defense and wide receiver…it doesn’t that we have all these injuries at key positions..
December 5th, 2011 at 12:31 am
That was funny AP77
December 5th, 2011 at 12:32 am
What’s good Ghost?
December 5th, 2011 at 12:33 am
Hue took the team out early to get used to the time zone?
That crap NEVER works.
I’ve flown the Atlantic somewhere approaching a hundred times. It takes around a week to adjust to the time zone.
A couple of days isn’t going to do it.
You’re better off if you fly to the east coast just before the game because you feel OK for awhile and then it hits you the next day.
Look at the Chicago vs. TB game in London.
Tampa Bay flew out days early to adjust.
Chicago flew out at the last minute and won.
December 5th, 2011 at 12:34 am
As silly scotty sully is everything 49er’s….Here a video of him preparing himself for a spring training tryout with his beloved 49er’s…..The organization was requesting video workouts for prospective players and this is the video silly scotty sully sent in……
http://youtu.be/I6ALcAatkF8
Jim Harbaugh did show some interest……
December 5th, 2011 at 12:34 am
Denver should come back to reality in the next few games.
December 5th, 2011 at 12:38 am
Me…playin Madden know how to call the defense!
December 5th, 2011 at 12:39 am
They choked. I’m disgusted.
December 5th, 2011 at 12:44 am
Any Luck with Parlays ?
December 5th, 2011 at 2:49 am
Effin disgraceful performance. Could tell immediately we were playing flat and passionless on D, and without any aggression, creativity on O.
Trying to “not lose” rather than trying to win.
Broncos are in the box-seat now for the division title.
December 5th, 2011 at 3:43 am
they say football is a game of matchups .i think we lost all the matchups yesterday,but more alarming than that,i dont think they tried to win any of them,none!!………blame cant be put on any one player.in fact we cant even blame the coaches,or asst. coaches..why?you ask..cause none of them showed up,not one player ,not one coach,not one asst coach not one leader.we got zero effort , exhibition game with generic players is what i saw.miami didnt make us look bad ,nobody fricken showed up,we made ourself look bad .im 47 years old and that was by far the worst game i have ever seen at any level.
it looks like every single employee ,every person ,coach,and player took the day off,they should all give up that week of pay ,entire org.and donate the money to the homless ,china,iraq,any relief fund you choose cause they darn sure didnt earn it…imo
December 5th, 2011 at 3:59 am
What happened yesterday is that the holes on this team were badly exposed by the 1st complete football team the Raiders have played since the New England game.
Michael Bush is an ok runner, but stack the box minus a powerhouse FB and he looks slow…..his pass blocking is a liability….he should not be re-sigend.
The fortunes of the Raiders will live and die with a easily brusied DMAC. He’s averaged 9 carries a game since his start (includes games missed).
Therefore, the offense has to become a pass 1st operation. And that means better pass blocker on the O-Line.
As for the defense. It is in need of wholesale changes. Top to bottom from players to coaches. The D-Line is junk. Can’t stop the run and pressure has to be generated from blitz packages.
The secondary is good at the safety spots but the CBs (especially nickle and dime) are terrible.
This is one of the worst statistical defenses in the NFL. And the Raiders paid top shelf for this mess.
Speical teams coverage units are terrible. Need a new coach for that.
As for the this team and the next 4 gms. It really could go direction. They could win 3-4 or lose all 4 and tank it. That loss today shows they still haven’t shaken that “blowed out” virus where they get treated like an a 0-16 team.
Step it up young men! As Hue says, this is supposed to be about WINNING NOW. Those are his words.
And yes, to our delicate, 1000 excuses needed defense…that is Green Bay next on the schedule.
The Raiders have mortgaged the near-term future on WINNING NOW with the assumption that this team was ready to win now.
They did not look like a “Win Now” team yesterday….far from it.
December 5th, 2011 at 4:01 am
It only took a few minutes to see this game was lost….. Both our lines were pushed around ..
When that happens everything implodes …
The Oline couldn’t protect Palmer, couldn’t keep the Dolfin defense outta the backfield … And our Defense couldn’t get any pressure on Moore…
Disaster of a day…. The Donkeys winning just adds to the misery
December 5th, 2011 at 4:44 am
I swear. I wish there was an ignore app so I can use it. .. to ignore 7-8 posters with their idiotic and agitating comments… funny thing is all those stupid posters is the same crackpot…
AMEN!
December 5th, 2011 at 5:13 am
I hope khalif barnes gets “compertition” this week. I really believe his holding penalties derailed the offensive rhythm and set a negative tempo 4 the game.
If the raiders pass blocking is that bad, need to focus on shorter pass routes.
December 5th, 2011 at 5:20 am
8 penalties…. They just can’t seem to learn that it’s hurts the team… What’s it gonna Fk’n take to get it across?…painful loss, then add that the Donkeys actually passed us in the standings… Doesn’t look promising. And the play we saw yesterday doesn’t give us much faith….hope the call a ” players only.” meeting ….before its too late…. And it might already be …. As much as I hate the Donkeys, I admitt they are playing very well…
December 5th, 2011 at 5:32 am
If they never showed Hue on the sideline, I would have thought Cable was our HC. Horrible game plan on both sides of the ball.
I agree with Jer, or whoever the hell wrote the above article. Where was Reece??? Richard “I’m a d!ck” Seymour should be suspended for next weeks game. By the team if not the league. Sick of this guys half ass play and dumb penalties.
As it got closer to game time I was in serious doubt that we win with the whole travel thing and injuries, but I nevewr imagined that disgrace.
December 5th, 2011 at 5:36 am
Fingers, hue is telling those players to stop the stupid penalties. Too many hilding penalties means your lineman are getting beat.
I would suspect that the fringe and @ risk players will start losing snaps or roster spots. Barnes was benchedin the 2nd half.
The time is now to fix this mess. The raiders have a great opportunity if they seize it. Next year means nothing right now
December 5th, 2011 at 5:51 am
After the 1st quarter, you could tell the Raiders were a beaten team. The vaunted D-line getting pushed back and the O-line being outmuscled. All the missing parts meant that the Houdini tricks to cover our injuries were not going to work. Not today. In order to win, we need to get healthy fast. Just my opinion but I hope 9-7 gets us to the playoffs but with Denver’s emergance, it’s doubtful.
December 5th, 2011 at 6:00 am
This lousy defense points only to Al Davis. He hand picked bonehead defensive coordinators and low character, undisciplined players on that side of the ball the past 9 seasons. The team needs a General Manager and a crew of talent evaluators to look for young men that can become leaders on defense.
December 5th, 2011 at 6:03 am
ExLA, 9-7 gets you a ticket to watch the playoffs from the sidelines. Cincy, NYJ, Tennessee are all 7-5. We have to get to 10 wins and still need help. We need a Caleb Hanie miracle in Denver next Sunday.
December 5th, 2011 at 6:05 am
JUST SHOW UP AND PLAY.DONT CARE IF UR TIM TEBOW OR CHARLES MANSON,JUST KNOW AND DO YOUR JOB.
December 5th, 2011 at 6:07 am
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 12:34 am
Denver should come back to reality in the next few games.
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Tebow is 6-1 now. I think that is reality, unfortunately.
December 5th, 2011 at 6:15 am
It’s not Teblow, it’s the Denver defense keeping it alive for him. Teblows % still suck but the defense is playing great. Got to give them credit.
December 5th, 2011 at 6:17 am
The defense looked gassed after 1 quarter (great conditioned). On a bright note, the extended forecast shows a balmy 33 degrees in Green Bay next Sunday.
December 5th, 2011 at 6:17 am
AGREE EXLA.TEAM EFFORT IN DENVER.
December 5th, 2011 at 6:18 am
It’s both Tebow and the defense. The more people criticize Tebow, the more he wins. Please don’t give the guy any more incentive. The kid is a winner. Can’t you see it in his face even when Denver is down? There is no quit in Tim Tebow.
December 5th, 2011 at 6:21 am
TEAM EFFORT.TEBOW IS PART OF THE TEAM..GOOD DAY BEACH,EXLA.
December 5th, 2011 at 6:22 am
Exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
Teblows % still suck but the defense is playing great.
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10-15 = 67% passing. That’s not great only because he didn’t throw a whole lot of passes. But it’s definitely not “suck”.
December 5th, 2011 at 6:23 am
Chicago is in a do-or-die position next Sunday in Denver. Hopefully, their defense keeps them in it.
December 5th, 2011 at 6:24 am
Have a good day, guys.
December 5th, 2011 at 6:24 am
This team has an uncanny ability to get called for a penalty at the absolute WORST moments in games..
Right when we could have and were trying to score or make some headway and gain some confidence we got some excellent holding penalties against Barnes, and then another perfectly timed holding penalty against Veldheer….
There is no team in the NFL that can kill its own momentum faster and more completely than the Raiders. And I am not just talking about 1 game…I am talking about entire seasons..They could have just grinded their whole season to an echoing halt with this performance because they are about to get their a$$es handed to them by Green Bay, Denver Should win, and the next thing you know these guys are going to be making Vacation Plans in Aruba..and Tee-Times at Pebble Beach…
Woulda Coulda Shoulda…injuries cost us the playoffs this year. You can’t help the club in the tub folks..print it.
Im not giving up on the season, and I will still watch every game, but as of now, when we get our guys back, they have been out soooo long, its going to take them 2 games to get back up to speed..games that we can’t afford to give away.
December 5th, 2011 at 6:30 am
Our oline seemed gassed. Samson looked awful. Wiz seemed lost.
December 5th, 2011 at 6:32 am
Oh, I forgot Bush. Moved like a slow turd and blocking on the wrong side got CP crushed on a sack.
December 5th, 2011 at 6:33 am
Here is a fun fact: Unless we run the table, we are NOT making the playoffs. If both us and Denver go 10-6 Denver wins the AFC West.
Face it, Denver will beat Chicago, lose to NE, beat Buffalo and KC. We will lose to GB, then maybe win out. Their 10-6 will beat our 10-6 in tie breakers.
Unless we pull off a miraculous 11-5 there will be no playoffs for the Nation. Again.
Isn’t that lovely? No playoffs and no draft picks!!!!
But after a showing like that in Miami yesterday, a crucial December game, are we really a playoff team or have we been deluding ourselves?
This team has had no appreciable run defense since Matt Millen left.
The O line has been average at best.
And prima donnas that can’t stay on the field – Darren, Ford, half the secondary, etc…
And to make matters worse, we have a coach who is lost: “This is on me….” WTF is that supposed to mean?
Did you watch the game Hue? This is on the guys who put the uniform on. No effort. No desire. Not enough talent. You can’t coach that my friend.
8-8.
Peace to all in the Raider Nation.
December 5th, 2011 at 6:33 am
When the Raiders hire a GM, I say fire Hue and Bres and try to bring in Cowher. Or, maybe Kiffin could be talked into coming back to the Raiders.
December 5th, 2011 at 6:34 am
IMHO,IF THIS TEAM GET’S STEAM-ROLLED IN GREEN BAY,U CAN PISS ON THE FIRE AND CALL THE DOG’S.WILL TAKE A TRUE MIRICAL TO MAKE THE POST-SEASON.I DO THINK THE RAIDERS CAN WIN OUT,BUT THEY NEED 2 GET THERE SH&T 2GETHER,MENTALY & PHYSCALY IN A BIG HURRY.
December 5th, 2011 at 6:35 am
Face it, Denver will beat Chicago, lose to NE, beat Buffalo and KC. We will lose to GB, then maybe win out. Their 10-6 will beat our 10-6 in tie breakers.
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I’m still a believer that Denver is not that good. They are just as possible of losing every game. KC is playing pretty good now. Bills have enough offense still to beat them. Bears defense is still good enough to stop Denver. I say the Broncos go 1-3 down the stretch. The Raiders will have to win 2 games.
December 5th, 2011 at 6:43 am
685.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 6:33 am
When the Raiders hire a GM, I say fire Hue and Bres and try to bring in Cowher. Or, maybe Kiffin could be talked into coming back to the Raiders.
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Did you just say you would rather have Lane Kiffen than Hue Jackson? LOL. What a joke
December 5th, 2011 at 6:44 am
There is simply no excuse for the team to come out so flat and to not put up a fight.
One problem is that there are no leaders on this team. In this regard, we miss Nnamdi, Gallery and Miller, who were three of the steadiest guys we had. Who is the voice of reason now? Rock Cartwright.
The worst part of seeing the defense torn up week after week is that we have no draft choices to rebuild it. We need new DTs and a new linebacking corps, but we’re bound to start next season with Seymour, Kelly, and the same big, slow, non-explosive LBs.
Even if the offense is okay when the injured return, this defense will never take us to the playoffs — not this year or next.
December 5th, 2011 at 6:45 am
Mr. Paine,
I watched the Den-Minn game. Minn’s defense was not only bad, it was non-existent. Maybe the worst D performance I’ve seen all year. Three blown coverages kept Den in tha game all day, and then Ponder gift-wrapped the win with a hoorible pick.
That being said, Chicago was able to muster 3 points at home vs an AFC bottom feeder in KC. And they lost Forte. What do you really expect them to do in Denver next weekend? They will end up losing like 16-10.
This is just not looking good.
December 5th, 2011 at 6:46 am
I’m still a believer that Denver is not that good. They are just as possible of losing every game. KC is playing pretty good now. Bills have enough offense still to beat them. Bears defense is still good enough to stop Denver. I say the Broncos go 1-3 down the stretch. The Raiders will have to win 2 games.
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Denver will only lose to NE… and they will give THEM a run for their money. They are winning the division. As much as I hate to admit it, they are a far superior team to us right now.
December 5th, 2011 at 6:47 am
Bcz24 Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 6:43 am
685.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 6:33 am
When the Raiders hire a GM, I say fire Hue and Bres and try to bring in Cowher. Or, maybe Kiffin could be talked into coming back to the Raiders.
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Did you just say you would rather have Lane Kiffen than Hue Jackson? LOL. What a joke
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It was a joke.
December 5th, 2011 at 6:48 am
OH GOD..LANCE AND RAIDERS IN THE SAME SENTENCE..
December 5th, 2011 at 6:49 am
Denver will only lose to NE… and they will give THEM a run for their money. They are winning the division. As much as I hate to admit it, they are a far superior team to us right now.
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We’ll see. Tebow is possibly the luckiest QB to ever play in the NFL.
December 5th, 2011 at 6:49 am
Don’t want to talk ’bout that awful display yesterday – still pi$$ed off.
Just wanted to wish Hwnrdr a Happy Birthday.
December 5th, 2011 at 6:50 am
If the Raiders are going to collapse, I would rather see the Chargers rally and win the West than Denver.
December 5th, 2011 at 6:51 am
Hay bday Hwnrdr
December 5th, 2011 at 6:54 am
Brien, what it be dawg?
December 5th, 2011 at 6:54 am
Yesterday was just pathetic….Hue must take blame for that. I dont understand those who say you cant ut Hue as the fall guy. Its december and your team just quit at halftime
December 5th, 2011 at 6:55 am
HWNDR DOES NOT HAVE TIME 2 POST THIS MORNING,HE IS LINING UP HIS AARP BENEFITS…
December 5th, 2011 at 6:57 am
YES MADMAN,0-13 AT 1/2TIME IS DOABLE.BUT IT WAS MIAMI WHO CAME OUT FIRED UP IN 3RD QTR,NOT OAKLAND.SOME OF THAT IN ON THE HEAD COACH..
December 5th, 2011 at 7:00 am
Hue has little to zero halftime adjustments…..how can you build a winner if you cant do that?
December 5th, 2011 at 7:00 am
RaiderAD Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 6:33 am
Here is a fun fact: Unless we run the table, we are NOT making the playoffs. If both us and Denver go 10-6 Denver wins the AFC West.
Face it, Denver will beat Chicago, lose to NE, beat Buffalo and KC. We will lose to GB, then maybe win out. Their 10-6 will beat our 10-6 in tie breakers.
Unless we pull off a miraculous 11-5 there will be no playoffs for the Nation. Again.
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Have you not hear of the Wildcard slots? Also, tie breakers are the divsion records, then common opponents. Lots of ffotball left to play.
December 5th, 2011 at 7:05 am
And why in God’s name is Manase Tonga not on the field? I keep tellin you smartasses out there who love to mock the B@uce that when you go up against rough and tough defenses Marcel reece just aiinnt gonna get it done as a lead blocker. He shys away when its timme too rumble in the trenches
December 5th, 2011 at 7:05 am
That was disgusting, outplayed and outcoached.
I’m out can’t even say anyhting else.
December 5th, 2011 at 7:09 am
Hue’s ego is too big…..it started with Hagan being cut. I dont care about Buffalo having him inactive….he was apart of this team and damn sure is more reliable than some of our other wrs. What has Housh done?……if we dont make playoffs its on Hue and he needs to get fired. Hue’s ego created the Tebow mania
December 5th, 2011 at 7:09 am
RaiderAD Says:
Here is a fun fact: Unless we run the table, we are NOT making the playoffs. If both us and Denver go 10-6 Denver wins the AFC West.
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Not necessarily true. I’ve run through the scenarios. It won’t be easy. But the Raiders can still get in as a wildcard at 10-6 if ALL of the following happen:
1. Jets go at best 3-1 (remaining: KC, PHIL, NYG, MIA)
2. Bengals lose to Houston next week OR lose at least two games (remaining: HOU, STL, AZ, BALT)
3. Titans must lose another AFC game (remaining: NO, IND, JAX, HOU)
So, the bottom line is . . . the Raiders need to run the table for the easiest path. Otherwise, we’re all Houston fans in weeks 14 and 17.
December 5th, 2011 at 7:09 am
Mr. Weathers,
Perhaps Rocky Balboa slugged you one too many times upside the head.
One of the wild card slots is already spoken for: Balt/Pitt.
That leaves us fighting it out with Cincy, Tennessee, and the Jets for one spot.
After that pathetic gutless showing yesterday, you really like our chances? We look like a playoff team to you?
December 5th, 2011 at 7:10 am
Marley…definitely outcoached…..man I miss Al Davis. He would put Hue’s ass in check
December 5th, 2011 at 7:13 am
Damn needing help and damn a wildcard. You need a home playoff game. Folks that live in the bay area understand why!
December 5th, 2011 at 7:15 am
If the raiders pass blocking is that bad, need to focus on shorter pass routes.
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Problem with the bully mentality..he’s going to do it his way, no adjustments will be made based on what is transpiring, results be damned.
December 5th, 2011 at 7:16 am
After that pathetic gutless showing yesterday, you really like our chances? We look like a playoff team to you?
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Uhh Playoffs! You kiddin me? Playoffs!?
December 5th, 2011 at 7:18 am
FIRE BRES, CUT SEYMOUR
December 5th, 2011 at 7:23 am
I see the knee jerk is in full effect again.
If we beat Green Bay next week, are we then bound for the Super Bowl again.
I swear, I think some of you like beating yourselves up.
It was a bad loss. We looked unprepared and not intense.
O was slow to get going and the D was just… I don’t know what to call it.
But guys were out there still playing hard, they kept fighting. Same deal as the end of the NE game and the KC game.
We’re still a playoff team.
The margin for error just shrunk, that’s all.
December 5th, 2011 at 7:24 am
Seymour is a waste of space right now
December 5th, 2011 at 7:27 am
I been sayin that going back to last year.
They mock the B@uce they mock the Mista.
Nnamdi>Murphy>Seymour
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Method To My Madness Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 7:24 am
Seymour is a waste of space right now
December 5th, 2011 at 7:28 am
LA…sorry bruh but for us to win division Hue has gotta stop fkin up. Satele and Carlisle suck but you have no other RG so Coop stays but Satele gotta go. Wiz needs to start at C…..and Reece cant be fulltime starter at FB….SICK OF WATCHING HIM TRY TO BLOCK…..such a weapon my ass! We’re a power run teaam with a half ass blocker at FB….THAT IS A DAMN JOKE
December 5th, 2011 at 7:29 am
It would have been nice to have Tonga yesterday, especially since Hue didn’t use Reece until the 4th quarter.
December 5th, 2011 at 7:29 am
Bush can’t block for sh*t.
December 5th, 2011 at 7:31 am
Yep Mista….again you are right
December 5th, 2011 at 7:34 am
Man, our Oline was bullied by the Fins…. That suprised me the most… I expect them to be beat on occasion but yesterday they were abused….. Hue has to be accountable….. The Raiders looked like a team that just didn’t care yesterday…had a housefull of Raider fans… We had a bummer time…by mid 1st quarter nobody was even talking… Except the occasional cuss words ..
December 5th, 2011 at 7:35 am
And what the hell is Trevor Scott doing at LDE? We need speed from the right side! So ass backwards!
December 5th, 2011 at 7:36 am
Fingers…..Satele is main problem….guy isnt strong enough…..time to put Wiz at Center for good now
December 5th, 2011 at 7:36 am
Reece is only a weapon if you use him.
Once carry (10 yards) and one catch (38) in the 4th quarter.
It’s not about one or two guys, it’s about a gameplan and the way its executed.
Sometimes its execution. In that game, it was clearly gameplan.
December 5th, 2011 at 7:37 am
Raiders were abused by the Dolphins last year too. This loss wasn’t a surprise. I think most of us probably thought that this was going to be one of those disappointing losses going into it. The McClain incident surely didn’t help matters. I should have bet a $1000 on the Dolphins in this one.
December 5th, 2011 at 7:37 am
I read your guy’s comments here everyday. I love it. I don’t post much, but after this and feeling so much anger yesterday I have to.
All I have to say is this. Cork said 2 freakin weeks ago that if this was the playoffs, McFadden was healthy enough to play. Well guess what Hue, our playoffs began yesterday. And we are now in a tough position because you are trying to get cute. It’s time to play our guys if they are healthy. Enough of this saving them until they are 100% BS. We don’t have victories to piss away any more. This is the NFL, not a meaningless arena league. If you aren’t nicked, you aren’t a real player.
GET PLAYING AND QUITE F-IN AROUND!!!!!!!!
December 5th, 2011 at 7:38 am
Maybe the Raiders could Andy Reid if he is fired.
December 5th, 2011 at 7:38 am
Method… You are correct….the Oline had its worse game… Satele is not workingout … Agreed
December 5th, 2011 at 7:39 am
B. You nailed it on physical ball. Raiders couldn’t run to save their lives cause dolphins D pushed guys around. Very few running lanes yesterday.
Deeply, deeply disappointed with the defense. The dolphins run a vanilla offense and the raider def had no answers. Had the dolphins not run out the clock, score would have been 50 – 0.
Can’t win without a good defense. At least a d that gets off the field on 3rd down
Need DTs badly and wimbley needs to be full-time pass rushing DE.
Bad loss yesterday. Too many money not doing shhhhhhhhhh
December 5th, 2011 at 7:39 am
McClain should have been made an example of. Still have the inmates running the asylum, which results in no show games like yesterday. Thought Jackson was going to tighten things up…what happened?
December 5th, 2011 at 7:41 am
We’re about out of time…. Hue has to adress this NOW!… I can’t stand the thought of watching the Donkeys winning our division… Unacceptable ..
December 5th, 2011 at 7:42 am
fvck I hate this blog that doesn’t post my comments I’m out. Fvck Jerr, & steve too.
December 5th, 2011 at 7:42 am
Snb…so true… Where are our team leaders?… Being ejected?…
December 5th, 2011 at 7:43 am
Our defense is crap. We have known that all season.
December 5th, 2011 at 7:44 am
Maybe someday the Raiders will be able to play tough and physical football like the 49ers do.
December 5th, 2011 at 7:45 am
Yesterday our defense couldn’t stop a team of Blind Girlscouts.. …embarressing ..
December 5th, 2011 at 7:45 am
The 49ers should be the Raiders role model. They are the real bullies.
December 5th, 2011 at 7:47 am
Guys I understand you being upset about McClain playing but you have to take into consideration this is a business first. He tried to keep McClain on the sidleine but like it or not our LBs are not that good. He had to play the guy we are paying all the money to like it or not. Second, lets wait for the report of the other side of the story first. Now once McClain is charged that is where it when you have to punish the guy. Lastly, McClain was not the reason we lost the game.
Our defense stinks! Bone head plays once again and can’t stop the run. If we had a run game we could have slowed the ball down more and controled the clock but we could not. Oh and lets not forget our DBs still blow to many assignments. Palmer as great as his passing could be lie in Cincy he trows ints at the worse times in the worse places of the field.
#1 Uno problem our best player DMAC is on the sideline. We need that guy back.
Very proud of DHBs play. Mad props!
December 5th, 2011 at 7:47 am
737.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 7:45 am
The 49ers should be the Raiders role model. They are the real bullies.
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Hate it but true!
December 5th, 2011 at 7:48 am
724.LA to TheBay Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 7:36 am
Reece is only a weapon if you use him.
Once carry (10 yards) and one catch (38) in the 4th quarter.
It’s not about one or two guys, it’s about a gameplan and the way its executed.
Sometimes its execution. In that game, it was clearly gameplan.
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Get the hell outta here with that schit….we are a power run team and Reece isnt adequate enough to be a lead blocker….spare me this garbage
December 5th, 2011 at 7:49 am
Inactives for the Raiders were quarterback Jason Campbell, wide receiver Jacoby Ford, wide receiver Denarius Moore, running back Darren McFadden, running back Taiwan Jones, guard Bruce Campbell and defensive end Jarvis Moss.
Dolphins inactives were running back Steve Slaton, lineabcker Ikaika Alama-Francis, tackle Will Barker, guard Ray Feinga, guard Vernon Carey, tight end Will Yeatman and defensvie tackle Ryan Baker.
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Just a small difference between inactives
December 5th, 2011 at 7:50 am
728.fingers Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 7:38 am
Method… You are correct….the Oline had its worse game… Satele is not workingout … Agreed
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He is awful…I’ve never liked him…after the SD game I dont know how Wiz isnt your center
December 5th, 2011 at 7:50 am
Wow… Hue puts the most competitive Raider team on the field in almost a decade and you want him fired. You guys are fvckin idiots sometimes. Mental letdowns like yesterday are new since Hue? Come on man, that sh1t been happening since the early 80’s. Hue has had to deal with more crucial injuries and more off field distractions than any coach in football and we are still alive (you would think reading here we were mathmatically eliminated). Stop blaming Hue when Bres’ defense doesn’t show up. Hue didn’t hire Bres AL did. Get over it. Next week when DMAC and Moore are back on the field we will give GB all they can handle.
December 5th, 2011 at 7:50 am
Been telling all the haters that the Raiders will never be the same team after Al goes and it wont be a good thing.
Al had a rough few years adjusting to not being healthy but he had us primed for another SB. Just have to take it slow and steady, maybe change coach in a year or two, after finding some hotshot that impressed him.
Cable got all the blame last year for blowouts and no second half adjustments and penalties and the team quitting, etc, etc.
Hue better shape them up in a hurry or Davis/Trask will pay money to attract a bigname and give up some power, something Al would never do but it might be the only thing that saves us.
December 5th, 2011 at 7:50 am
Did McFaddens leg fall off…. What the hell is up with his injury?… We were told it was minor….. If he can’t play then IR his A$$….and stop with the nonsense…
December 5th, 2011 at 7:51 am
Yep Wiz & Heyer was doing a nice job.
December 5th, 2011 at 7:51 am
741.HairyBush Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 7:49 am
Inactives for the Raiders were quarterback Jason Campbell, wide receiver Jacoby Ford, wide receiver Denarius Moore, running back Darren McFadden, running back Taiwan Jones, guard Bruce Campbell and defensive end Jarvis Moss.
Dolphins inactives were running back Steve Slaton, lineabcker Ikaika Alama-Francis, tackle Will Barker, guard Ray Feinga, guard Vernon Carey, tight end Will Yeatman and defensvie tackle Ryan Baker.
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Just a small difference between inactives
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So Tonga was active and not on the field lead blocking for a tough run defense….such a fkin Genius Hue is
December 5th, 2011 at 7:51 am
The Raiders are like that tall fat kid who picks on the runts and thinks he is hot sh*t until a real bully comes and kicks his ass.
December 5th, 2011 at 7:51 am
I still think Hue has done a good job over all this season. We have had way to many injuries this year. If we had all of our #1s on offense from week to week playing as a team I really do think things would be different. Hue, is game planning with who he has first than the other team. It is different then just game planning aginst your opponent.
Great speed comes great injury I guess!!!
December 5th, 2011 at 7:52 am
Cowher would build a real bully.
December 5th, 2011 at 7:53 am
Just think, If Al had passed away last season, Raiders could have hired Harbaugh.
December 5th, 2011 at 7:53 am
we are a power run team
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Really????
I think you mean we SHOULD be a power running team. If we were a power running team, we’d have at least 3 different starters on the OL.
Agree that the Hagan cut was a bad move.
Hire a GM!!!!!
December 5th, 2011 at 7:54 am
PS I am not advocating to fire Hue, just saying what is likely to happen.
Mark and Amy may be more concerned about making money then Al did.
December 5th, 2011 at 7:54 am
743.bcz24 Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 7:50 am
Wow… Hue puts the most competitive Raider team on the field in almost a decade and you want him fired. You guys are fvckin idiots sometimes. Mental letdowns like yesterday are new since Hue? Come on man, that sh1t been happening since the early 80’s. Hue has had to deal with more crucial injuries and more off field distractions than any coach in football and we are still alive (you would think reading here we were mathmatically eliminated). Stop blaming Hue when Bres’ defense doesn’t show up. Hue didn’t hire Bres AL did. Get over it. Next week when DMAC and Moore are back on the field we will give GB all they can handle.
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If we are sitting home after week 17…Hue deserves to be fired. His ego is costing us and it started that Denver game really. Cutting Hagan was stupid for TJ Douche who has done what yet? Sticking with Satele at Center? Trying to make Reece a FB when Tonga obviously can block much better? The McClain schit? Having a meeting and telling players he is already looking for Free Agents next year? How about his halftime adjustments? Blowing the AFC West and allowing Denver to seize it?
December 5th, 2011 at 7:54 am
LA To TheBay Says:
If we beat Green Bay next week, are we then bound for the Super Bowl again.
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Not if Denver also beats Chicago. LOL But it will be huge for the Raiders in possible wildcard scenarios.
December 5th, 2011 at 7:54 am
Schillens = Hagan
No loss there.
December 5th, 2011 at 7:55 am
752.J Hill Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 7:53 am
we are a power run team
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Really????
I think you mean we SHOULD be a power running team. If we were a power running team, we’d have at least 3 different starters on the OL.
Agree that the Hagan cut was a bad move.
Hire a GM!!!!!
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MY god…Jhill sometimes bruh I dont know what you be thinking…..you think we are a zone running team?
December 5th, 2011 at 7:56 am
753.Plunketthead Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 7:54 am
PS I am not advocating to fire Hue, just saying what is likely to happen.
Mark and Amy may be more concerned about making money then Al did.
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I say Fire his ass if we are sitting home after Jan 1st looking towards 2012
December 5th, 2011 at 7:57 am
B, Jill is clueless as Fk.
Props to everybody that is ignoring MR/ABP as if she isnt even here.
December 5th, 2011 at 7:57 am
You claiming this build a bully schit yet the bullies arent on the field enough
December 5th, 2011 at 7:57 am
Ill bet my bonus check Hue does NOT get fired after this season. You guys are seriously ridiculous. He should get coach of the year for dealing with what he has dealt with since week 1 dealing with Al’s b1tch ass players that can’t stay on the field. There are probably 5 guys on this team who have started every game.
December 5th, 2011 at 7:58 am
***Some of you Raiders fans suck!!!******
Because of injury we have a new Raiders team every
week. Hck Hue had to speed dial a lot of players off the street this year.
I don’t think some of you clowns get that!
The 45 yard TD of only two we got aginst Miami came from a QB who did not think he was going to play this year and a WR (Hush) who was an at home Mom to his kid a month ago.
D@mn give Hue some credit! I guess you want Cable back?
December 5th, 2011 at 7:58 am
This team, nearly from top to bottom is a g-d joke:
Coach: Hue Jackson is a lethal combination of arrogance and inexperience. As a playcaller he vibrates between too conservative and too wild. He apparently has the same problems as Tom Cable as a motivator too since his team’s effort week to week is wildly inconsistent.
Quarterback: Stick a fork in Palmer, he’s done. He put up great garbage time stats yesterday, but when it mattered, he was abominable. He’s been with the team two months now and has no excuses anymore. He’s a veteran; he doesn’t need training camp. He sucks and will never recover his 2004-2006 form. Ever. I would rather have Curtis Painter. Palmer is that bad.
Running back: McFadden is a special talent but cannot be relied upon as a workhorse. Bush is medicore as evidenced by his wildly up and down performances. Taiwan Jones is an unknown quantity who already has been injured in camp and during the season.
Offensive line: Veldheer still has promise but Julius Peppers completely humiliated him two weeks ago and he was only marginally better against Cameron Wake yesterday. He could be something special or he could be average his whole career. Wiz 2.0 looks like he should be good. Satele, Carlisle and Barnes would be benchwarmers on any other team. Heyer and Barksdale have looked completely clueless in their opportunities so far.
Wide receivers: DHB looks like he may actually fulfill his potential. Moore and Ford could be great or could be nothing. Sometimes they dominate and sometimes they disappear. Every other WR on the roster is laughably bad.
Moving on to the defense in my next post.
December 5th, 2011 at 7:58 am
759.MistaBrown Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 7:57 am
B, Jill is clueless as Fk.
Props to everybody that is ignoring MR/ABP as if she isnt even here.
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Jhill is a cool cat but I couldnt even understand his post….you either a power run team or a zone finesse team….if you look at our run plays its obvious what type of style we have
December 5th, 2011 at 7:59 am
Schillens = Hagan
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Schillens = another b1tch ass player hurt again. Did not finish the game.
December 5th, 2011 at 7:59 am
Mista, I speak the truth. Unlike all your lies about the President.
December 5th, 2011 at 7:59 am
762.CJ Legend 34 Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 7:58 am
***Some of you Raiders fans suck!!!******
Because of injury we have a new Raiders team every
week. Hck Hue had to speed dial a lot of players off the street this year.
I don’t think some of you clowns get that!
The 45 yard TD of only two we got aginst Miami came from a QB who did not think he was going to play this year and a WR (Hush) who was an at home Mom to his kid a month ago.
D@mn give Hue some credit! I guess you want Cable back?
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Fk that schit! All excuses for not winning the division…..you need a home playoff game…especially this year inthe Bay Area where the other team is for sure having a home playoff game! You dont get it!
December 5th, 2011 at 8:00 am
Bcz we were all ignoring the troll you had to go and speak to it.
Thanks!
December 5th, 2011 at 8:00 am
you think we are a zone running team?
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Where did I say anything about us being a zone running team?
Satele at C, Carlisle at G, and Barnes at RT do not = power anything though.
December 5th, 2011 at 8:01 am
758.Method To My Madness Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 7:56 am
753.Plunketthead Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 7:54 am
PS I am not advocating to fire Hue, just saying what is likely to happen.
Mark and Amy may be more concerned about making money then Al did.
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I say Fire his ass if we are sitting home after Jan 1st looking towards 2012
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What???? Why, Hue has done a good job with this team under the circumstances. I would get a GM and keep Hue. Let Hue get his own asistant coaches and this thing changes. Hue is a winner! Most coaches would have cashed it in already.
December 5th, 2011 at 8:01 am
Does anyone have the mailing address for that build it yourself time machine from Napoleon Dynamite? I want to fast forward to this Sunday. I can’t take 6 days of this crap. Where can I find a used Delorean?
December 5th, 2011 at 8:01 am
D@mn give Hue some credit! I guess you want Cable back?
763.SilverNBlackPA Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 7:58 am
This team, nearly from top to bottom is a g-d joke:
Coach: Hue Jackson is a lethal combination of arrogance and inexperience. As a playcaller he vibrates between too conservative and too wild. He apparently has the same problems as Tom Cable as a motivator too since his team’s effort week to week is wildly inconsistent.
Quarterback: Stick a fork in Palmer, he’s done. He put up great garbage time stats yesterday, but when it mattered, he was abominable. He’s been with the team two months now and has no excuses anymore. He’s a veteran; he doesn’t need training camp. He sucks and will never recover his 2004-2006 form. Ever. I would rather have Curtis Painter. Palmer is that bad.
Running back: McFadden is a special talent but cannot be relied upon as a workhorse. Bush is medicore as evidenced by his wildly up and down performances. Taiwan Jones is an unknown quantity who already has been injured in camp and during the season.
Offensive line: Veldheer still has promise but Julius Peppers completely humiliated him two weeks ago and he was only marginally better against Cameron Wake yesterday. He could be something special or he could be average his whole career. Wiz 2.0 looks like he should be good. Satele, Carlisle and Barnes would be benchwarmers on any other team. Heyer and Barksdale have looked completely clueless in their opportunities so far.
Wide receivers: DHB looks like he may actually fulfill his potential. Moore and Ford could be great or could be nothing. Sometimes they dominate and sometimes they disappear. Every other WR on the roster is laughably bad.
Moving on to the defense in my next post.
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Wow….most of this I do agree on
December 5th, 2011 at 8:02 am
Mista, I am not MR, and I am not a troll. Just like a Republican of you to call those with differing view points names.
December 5th, 2011 at 8:03 am
What we learnerd:
1) The O needs the run game, with out it it cant get any momentum going.
2) The D is beyond hope. It could have come up big yesterday, helping a struggling O that has shouldered the work for most of the season. Instead it gave up in the 3rq quarter, and selfish Seymore got ejected again, cause its not faaaaair, and I’ll cry if I want to!
FIRE THE POS CHUKY B! he makes JV qbs look like frigin Drew Brees week-in and week-out.
December 5th, 2011 at 8:03 am
770.CJ Legend 34 Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 8:01 am
758.Method To My Madness Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 7:56 am
753.Plunketthead Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 7:54 am
PS I am not advocating to fire Hue, just saying what is likely to happen.
Mark and Amy may be more concerned about making money then Al did.
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I say Fire his ass if we are sitting home after Jan 1st looking towards 2012
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What???? Why, Hue has done a good job with this team under the circumstances. I would get a GM and keep Hue. Let Hue get his own asistant coaches and this thing changes. Hue is a winner! Most coaches would have cashed it in already.
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Every team in NFL is dealing with some weird circumstances sans the SB participants from last year
If Hue is a winner then he wins out and hosts a home playoff game….Every gasme has been sold out….people want a fkin winner and that wait til next year schit is trash!
December 5th, 2011 at 8:04 am
Defensive line: Tommy Kelly is aging and inconsistent. Seymour is even older, even more inconsistent and is physically breaking down as every game goes by. Matt Shaughnessy shows potential, but was plauged by injuries in college that seem to be re-emerging as a problem. Lamarr Houston is solid. Not bad, but not great either.
Linebackers: Curry, for all his problems in coverage, is a keeper given his other skills. Wimbley is DE playing LB and looks lost. Rolando McClain is a thug who should be in jail and banned for life from the league. Also, he sucks as a player and does nothing well and many things badly.
Cornerbacks: Routt is an acceptable starter, but nothing special and sucks up an absurd amount of cap space with his ridiculous contract. Chris Johnson is done. Van Dyke has lots of potential, but is rawer than carpaccio.
I think a real, NFL worthy GM could put this team on a 3-5 year plan to contend for a Super Bowl in 2014-2016 except that he has no picks to start that process with next season thanks to Hue’s (and Al’s) reckless forking over of nearly the entire draft for instant gratification. That’ll probably push the next GM’s job (who won’t be any good since who will want to step into a job filled with overpaid declining veterans and no draft picks to start rebuilding with) to adopt a 5-7 year plan.
And of course this says nothing about what the rest of the division will do. The Broncos, with a defense that can only get better and a QB that refuses to lose are Super Bowl contenders this year and will dominate the division for the next decade.
It’s depressing man. More depressing than even the pit that was 2006.
December 5th, 2011 at 8:04 am
Morilla Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 8:01 am
Does anyone have the mailing address for that build it yourself time machine from Napoleon Dynamite? I want to fast forward to this Sunday. I can’t take 6 days of this crap. Where can I find a used Delorean?
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Morilla, you can find the Back to the Future car at a cafe in Chicago. It sits in the front window
http://www.thewormholecoffee.com/
December 5th, 2011 at 8:04 am
Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 8:03 am
What we learnerd:
1) The O needs the run game, with out it it cant get any momentum going.
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Really….according to some experts CP isnt like JC at all and can carry team when run game is stalled
December 5th, 2011 at 8:06 am
Khalif Barnes had 2 KILLER holding penalties. Turned 2 1st downs into 3rd and 18s plus.
Big KO return to open the 2nd half.
Curry one on one with WRs and Fasano.
That’s why we lost.
December 5th, 2011 at 8:06 am
It’s depressing man. More depressing than even the pit that was 2006.
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If they dont win division….it is worse than 2006 because you had it and let it slip away
December 5th, 2011 at 8:06 am
Get the hell outta here with that schit….we are a power run team and Reece isnt adequate enough to be a lead blocker….spare me this garbage
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Still laughing at you putting wins and losses on one or two guys.
December 5th, 2011 at 8:07 am
K Barnes played decent all season and went back to his true self when we needed him the most
December 5th, 2011 at 8:07 am
How bad do you guys think the 49ers would beat us?
December 5th, 2011 at 8:07 am
This next game against the Packers is our most important regular season game in a long time.
I don’t care if they are at 50%, Ford, McFadden and Moore need to at least try to give it a go.
I’m sure there are plenty of other guys banged up, giving it a go. These dudes need to man up, for their teammates.
December 5th, 2011 at 8:07 am
781.LA to TheBay Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 8:06 am
Get the hell outta here with that schit….we are a power run team and Reece isnt adequate enough to be a lead blocker….spare me this garbage
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Still laughing at you putting wins and losses on one or two guys.
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I am putting it on one guy…HUE JACKSON
December 5th, 2011 at 8:08 am
784.Just Fire Baby Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 8:07 am
This next game against the Packers is our most important regular season game in a long time.
I don’t care if they are at 50%, Ford, McFadden and Moore need to at least try to give it a go.
I’m sure there are plenty of other guys banged up, giving it a go. These dudes need to man up, for their teammates.
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Season is on the line…i doubt dmac plays in the cold
December 5th, 2011 at 8:08 am
What we learnerd:
1) The O needs the run game, with out it it cant get any momentum going.
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Really….according to some experts CP isnt like JC at all and can carry team when run game is stalled
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CP is a play action QB. holds the ball too long. sometimes he goes crazy and throws it into a crowd…why?
December 5th, 2011 at 8:08 am
*deep breath*
Needed to get all that off my chest.
Some of that’s hyperbolic ranting, I admit, but the sad thing is….not a whole lot of it.
December 5th, 2011 at 8:09 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 8:07 am
This next game against the Packers is our most important regular season game in a long time.
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I don’t know about that. We have figured this for a loss since the schedule came out. We have to hope the Raiders can win last 3 games.
December 5th, 2011 at 8:09 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
Coach: Hue Jackson is a lethal combination of arrogance and inexperience. As a playcaller he vibrates between too conservative and too wild. He apparently has the same problems as Tom Cable as a motivator too since his team’s effort week to week is wildly inconsistent.
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You forgot to mention his inability to do anything about the penalties.
I consider Hue a stopgap because Al was still alive and no legitimate coach would dare come to star in his circus. But now that he died, they can attract a much better coach than Hue or Cable.
Hue is good at running his mouth and telling everyone how great he is and how he can build bullies blah blah blah. But all that he’s really proven is that he can make some very questionable personnel decisions and blow games with stupid playcalling.
December 5th, 2011 at 8:09 am
Curry in space was laughable.
As great at he is when the play is in front of him, he is as bad when the play is anywhere else.
And why was Wimbley covering Fasano 20 yards down the field to start the game? He needs to only cover guys if it is around the LOS. Other than that, put a S on them.
December 5th, 2011 at 8:10 am
763.SilverNBlackPA Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 7:58 am
This team, nearly from top to bottom is a g-d joke:
Coach: Hue Jackson is a lethal combination of arrogance and inexperience. As a playcaller he vibrates between too conservative and too wild. He apparently has the same problems as Tom Cable as a motivator too since his team’s effort week to week is wildly inconsistent.
Quarterback: Stick a fork in Palmer, he’s done. He put up great garbage time stats yesterday, but when it mattered, he was abominable. He’s been with the team two months now and has no excuses anymore. He’s a veteran; he doesn’t need training camp. He sucks and will never recover his 2004-2006 form. Ever. I would rather have Curtis Painter. Palmer is that bad.
Running back: McFadden is a special talent but cannot be relied upon as a workhorse. Bush is medicore as evidenced by his wildly up and down performances. Taiwan Jones is an unknown quantity who already has been injured in camp and during the season.
Offensive line: Veldheer still has promise but Julius Peppers completely humiliated him two weeks ago and he was only marginally better against Cameron Wake yesterday. He could be something special or he could be average his whole career. Wiz 2.0 looks like he should be good. Satele, Carlisle and Barnes would be benchwarmers on any other team. Heyer and Barksdale have looked completely clueless in their opportunities so far.
Wide receivers: DHB looks like he may actually fulfill his potential. Moore and Ford could be great or could be nothing. Sometimes they dominate and sometimes they disappear. Every other WR on the roster is laughably bad.
Moving on to the defense in my next post.
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Wow.
Funny what one game does.
You guys realize we’re still 7-5 and in 1st place, albeit tied.
I had this same talk with the Ledge Dwellers prior to our three game win streak (when we were SB contenders and going to run the table).
Chill.
December 5th, 2011 at 8:10 am
Bush is obviously tired, dude has had allot of carries lately.
McFadden has to get on the field ASAP, he can have the whole off season to recuperate.
Same with Ford, Moore and Jones, GTF out there, now.
One more thing, I want to see some screen passes to Jones, why not give you fastest player a chance to do something in the open field?
December 5th, 2011 at 8:11 am
Season is on the line…i doubt dmac plays in the cold
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If he can’t play, he goes from a top 15 RB, to a top 40 RB.
December 5th, 2011 at 8:11 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 8:04 am
Defensive line: Tommy Kelly is aging and inconsistent. Seymour is even older, even more inconsistent and is physically breaking down as every game goes by. Matt Shaughnessy shows potential, but was plauged by injuries in college that seem to be re-emerging as a problem. Lamarr Houston is solid. Not bad, but not great either.
Linebackers: Curry, for all his problems in coverage, is a keeper given his other skills. Wimbley is DE playing LB and looks lost. Rolando McClain is a thug who should be in jail and banned for life from the league. Also, he sucks as a player and does nothing well and many things badly.
Cornerbacks: Routt is an acceptable starter, but nothing special and sucks up an absurd amount of cap space with his ridiculous contract. Chris Johnson is done. Van Dyke has lots of potential, but is rawer than carpaccio.
I think a real, NFL worthy GM could put this team on a 3-5 year plan to contend for a Super Bowl in 2014-2016 except that he has no picks to start that process with next season thanks to Hue’s (and Al’s) reckless forking over of nearly the entire draft for instant gratification. That’ll probably push the next GM’s job (who won’t be any good since who will want to step into a job filled with overpaid declining veterans and no draft picks to start rebuilding with) to adopt a 5-7 year plan.
And of course this says nothing about what the rest of the division will do. The Broncos, with a defense that can only get better and a QB that refuses to lose are Super Bowl contenders this year and will dominate the division for the next decade.
It’s depressing man. More depressing than even the pit that was 2006.
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Bro, It was a schitty loss yesterday, But your being a tad dramatic don’t you think? There is no way this season should ever be compared to 2006 in any way. I forsee a strong outing against GB. We fell for the classic trap game. Shame on us, But GB will have there first loss next week!
December 5th, 2011 at 8:11 am
787.Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 8:08 am
What we learnerd:
1) The O needs the run game, with out it it cant get any momentum going.
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Really….according to some experts CP isnt like JC at all and can carry team when run game is stalled
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CP is a play action QB. holds the ball too long. sometimes he goes crazy and throws it into a crowd…why?
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All this he is a top 10 qb schit is absurd….guy turns it over alot and 17 career pick 6’s? You joking right?
December 5th, 2011 at 8:11 am
And why was Wimbley covering Fasano 20 yards down the field to start the game? He needs to only cover guys if it is around the LOS. Other than that, put a S on them
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Because Chuky B has not recovered from severe brain damage and believes DEs like Wimbley should be covering people Man 2 Man….
December 5th, 2011 at 8:12 am
LA…we aint tied…we are a game behind due to the tiebreaker
December 5th, 2011 at 8:13 am
And why was Wimbley covering Fasano 20 yards down the field to start the game?
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With no S looking to help him either????
Just don’t understand what Chuck B is asking his guys to do. CLEARLY not drawing up plays that put guys like Curry and Wimbley in a position to do what they do best.
December 5th, 2011 at 8:13 am
J Hill Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 8:06 am
Khalif Barnes had 2 KILLER holding penalties. Turned 2 1st downs into 3rd and 18s plus.
Big KO return to open the 2nd half.
Curry one on one with WRs and Fasano.
That’s why we lost.
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Not to mention we didn’t play with any heart, passion, intensity or urgency.
December 5th, 2011 at 8:13 am
Wow.
Funny what one game does.
You guys realize we’re still 7-5 and in 1st place, albeit tied.
I had this same talk with the Ledge Dwellers prior to our three game win streak (when we were SB contenders and going to run the table).
Chill.
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So. You didn’t watch the game yesterday, right?
Looked like friging Bed & Breakfast and Chuky B, all day! wont win another one playing like that.
December 5th, 2011 at 8:14 am
Raheem Morris sent a player home yesterday for getting a personal foul penalty. That is the type of coach the Raiders need.
December 5th, 2011 at 8:14 am
Wow.
Funny what one game does.
You guys realize we’re still 7-5 and in 1st place, albeit tied.
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With a colossal humiliation against Green Bay on the horizon, followed by a sound whupping at the hands of a Detroit team that looks to be more of a real bully than we are. Might win the last two games since KC and SD are imploding, but I also wouldn’t put it past the KC defense to steal a game given we’ve got Captain Pick Six taking the snaps.
Meanwhile, the Broncos will run the table all the way to the AFC Championship game, I believe. (They’ll lose but they’ll get there)
So yeah, things don’t look good. What reason for optimism is there?
December 5th, 2011 at 8:14 am
LA…we aint tied…we are a game behind due to the tiebreaker
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And that all changes when we win our last 2 division games and the Donkeys lose to KC.
December 5th, 2011 at 8:16 am
I don’t know why I have to keep saying this. The Raiders are NOT in first place. From NFL.com:
Oakland Raiders
2nd AFC West (7-5-0)
They cannot win any tiebreakers with Denver. Therefore they are second in the division.
December 5th, 2011 at 8:16 am
Ironically, I was thrilled with the Palmer trade when it happened because I had no idea his skills had deteriorated that much and I thought a long rest and a new situation would do him good.
Nope. he is who he is.
December 5th, 2011 at 8:16 am
J Hill Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 8:14 am
LA…we aint tied…we are a game behind due to the tiebreaker
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And that all changes when we win our last 2 division games and the Donkeys lose to KC.
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Finally, someone with some common sense.
December 5th, 2011 at 8:17 am
joetoronto Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 8:10 am
Bush is obviously tired, dude has had allot of carries lately.
McFadden has to get on the field ASAP, he can have the whole off season to recuperate.
Same with Ford, Moore and Jones, GTF out there, now.
One more thing, I want to see some screen passes to Jones, why not give you fastest player a chance to do something in the open field?
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We missing the weapons for real.
December 5th, 2011 at 8:17 am
If before the season i would have told you we’d be 7 and 5 the Chiefs 5 and 7 Chargers 4 and 7 you would have been happy. Our team won the last two games with a lot of guys out (injuries matter ask the Bears) other players were bound to be beat up (Bush for example) no healthy Romac makes a huge difference and the oline threw in a stinker. We win 3 of the last four we’re in
Cincy remaining sched:
Houston
@STL
Ari
Baltimore
Tenn:
NO
@Indy
Jacksonville
@Hou
NYJ:
KC
@Phi
NYG
@MIA
DEN:
Chi
NE
@Buff
KC
December 5th, 2011 at 8:18 am
Well, the thing about Denver is their D is playing at playoff level, and the team believes in the QB. In Oak, the D is playing at Chuky B level, and the QB is going turnover crazy.
December 5th, 2011 at 8:19 am
Captain Pick Six and Captain Checkdown= 2011 Oakland Qbs….pick your poison lol
December 5th, 2011 at 8:19 am
Looked like friging Bed & Breakfast
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It really did. Palmer’s taking a bunch of seven step drops and the routes need to be shortened.
Seems like Hue got his cannon arm toy to play with and he wants to dump any dinking and dunking whatsoever.
You have to include the short and intermediate stuff in today’s game.
Hue’s gameplan and lack of adjustments did us in pretty good.
The defense was terrible.
But it was one week.
The season lives on.
December 5th, 2011 at 8:20 am
809.inonewordraider Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 8:17 am
If before the season i would have told you we’d be 7 and 5 the Chiefs 5 and 7 Chargers 4 and 7 you would have been happy. Our team won the last two games with a lot of guys out (injuries matter ask the Bears) other players were bound to be beat up (Bush for example) no healthy Romac makes a huge difference and the oline threw in a stinker. We win 3 of the last four we’re in
Cincy remaining sched:
Houston
@STL
Ari
Baltimore
Tenn:
NO
@Indy
Jacksonville
@Hou
NYJ:
KC
@Phi
NYG
@MIA
DEN:
Chi
NE
@Buff
KC
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Fk having the loser ass wildcard
December 5th, 2011 at 8:20 am
The Donkeys have to lost to BOTH KC and San Diego for us to take them over in the tiebreaker.
If they beat 1 of the 2, I still don’t see us overtaking them in the tiebreakers, although it is a tad more possible.
If they go 3-1, and beat KC and San Diego, we have to go 4-0 to win the division.
I am thinking the wildcard is more likely right now. Cincy is in free fall, we have the tiebreaker over the Jets, and I think the Titans will finish no better than 9-7.
December 5th, 2011 at 8:20 am
Chaz going down is a problem. Ford and Moore weren’t even practicing last week
December 5th, 2011 at 8:21 am
804.J Hill Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 8:14 am
LA…we aint tied…we are a game behind due to the tiebreaker
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And that all changes when we win our last 2 division games and the Donkeys lose to KC.
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We play GB week 14….Den plays Bears….we need to focus on this week…we not good enough to assume some schit weeks 16 and 17
December 5th, 2011 at 8:21 am
Tie breaker means nada with 4 games to go.
Just do your job and you have to let that stuff (stuff beyond your control) sort itself out.
December 5th, 2011 at 8:22 am
We play GB week 14….Den plays Bears….we need to focus on this week…we not good enough to assume some schit weeks 16 and 17
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exactly
December 5th, 2011 at 8:22 am
LA To TheBay Says:
Hue’s gameplan and lack of adjustments did us in pretty good.
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The problem is that there has been too much of that from Hue this year.
December 5th, 2011 at 8:22 am
815.J Hill Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 8:20 am
Chaz going down is a problem. Ford and Moore weren’t even practicing last week
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Boy…and we cut Hagan to have Chaz Hurt Schilens and Louis sorry ass Murphy as the WRs….DHB has stepped up so no knock onthat guy……TJ WhoareYouPlayingFor has done squat
December 5th, 2011 at 8:23 am
One thing I agree with that people are saying: McFadden, Ford and Moore need to get out there ASAP.
How many guys play through injuries as bad or worse?
Hue needs to realize that saving his guys for the stretch run will be moot if they keep losing and there is no stretch run to make.
Also, if I’m not mistaken, the Packers have installed heaters under the turf at Lambeau…so the tundra really isn’t frozen anymore.
December 5th, 2011 at 8:23 am
Tie breaker means nada with 4 games to go.
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ACtually, it is pretty easy to figure out.
We need Denver to lose to both KC and SD, otherwise we have very little chance.
If they win both of those games, we have ZERO chance.
Not rocket science.
December 5th, 2011 at 8:23 am
Offensive line: Veldheer still has promise but Julius Peppers completely humiliated him two weeks ago and he was only marginally better against Cameron Wake yesterday.
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Didn’t Barnes go against Cameron Waker yesterday? (Two holding pentalies) Had to work, so I was listening to it on the Radio. Was Veldheer going against Jason Taylor?
December 5th, 2011 at 8:23 am
814.Just Fire Baby Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 8:20 am
The Donkeys have to lost to BOTH KC and San Diego for us to take them over in the tiebreaker.
If they beat 1 of the 2, I still don’t see us overtaking them in the tiebreakers, although it is a tad more possible.
If they go 3-1, and beat KC and San Diego, we have to go 4-0 to win the division.
I am thinking the wildcard is more likely right now. Cincy is in free fall, we have the tiebreaker over the Jets, and I think the Titans will finish no better than 9-7.
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Wildcard is phag schit
December 5th, 2011 at 8:24 am
822.Just Fire Baby Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 8:23 am
Tie breaker means nada with 4 games to go.
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ACtually, it is pretty easy to figure out.
We need Denver to lose to both KC and SD, otherwise we have very little chance.
If they win both of those games, we have ZERO chance.
Not rocket science.
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Denver dont play SD again…scratch that theory
December 5th, 2011 at 8:24 am
ACtually Denver only plays KC, so scratch everything I just said, lol.
This snow gots me all fkd up
December 5th, 2011 at 8:25 am
Didn’t Barnes go against Cameron Waker yesterday? (Two holding pentalies) Had to work, so I was listening to it on the Radio. Was Veldheer going against Jason Taylor?
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You might be right…I had it on the radio too.
If Wake was working against Barnes, though, that’s actually worse because Taylor is 37 and Koa Misi is a guy Veldheer should be able to handle.
December 5th, 2011 at 8:25 am
810.Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 8:18 am
Well, the thing about Denver is their D is playing at playoff level, and the team believes in the QB. In Oak, the D is playing at Chuky B level, and the QB is going turnover crazy.
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Yup
December 5th, 2011 at 8:26 am
I just don’t get the backlash from the Palmer trade.
Should we have really just thrown in the towel and rolled with Boeller?
Garrard was hurt, and VY isn’t a good player.
We are in the playoff hunt because Marc Davis went out and got us a QB that could keep this train rolling.
DMac, Ford, and Moore all being out at the same time finally caught up to us. It is what it is.
December 5th, 2011 at 8:26 am
RaidingTexas Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 8:22 am
LA To TheBay Says:
Hue’s gameplan and lack of adjustments did us in pretty good.
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The problem is that there has been too much of that from Hue this year.
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Exactly.
Same thing from Chuck B too.
The only difference is that Hue doesn’t make adjustments because he’s arrogant and Chuck B doesn’t make them because he’s a dumbazz.
December 5th, 2011 at 8:26 am
Raiders better not have an off day….should be in alameda…and people need to start calling folks out….people need to man up and take a look at themsleves in the mirror….some deep soul searching needs to done this week if we are to go out to Lambeau and win there for the firs time since………woooooooooo…its a been a while!
December 5th, 2011 at 8:27 am
Brien says: Wilcard is phag schit
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Brien, your fecal matter is phag schit.
December 5th, 2011 at 8:28 am
Method To My Madness Says:
Wildcard is phag schit
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Wow. So you want to disavow Super Bowl XV then?
December 5th, 2011 at 8:28 am
Wildcard is phag schit
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I belive the NFL wildcard has won 2 of the last 4 Super Bowls.
December 5th, 2011 at 8:28 am
I always thought of Raider fans as the baddest in the NFL but on here sounds more like the a bunch a crybaby whining bit#hes to me
December 5th, 2011 at 8:28 am
Wake was lined up on Barnes most of the game but was also at the RDE spot.
December 5th, 2011 at 8:30 am
Anyone know the line for the game this weekend.
My prediction last week of Raiders +8.5 was contingent upon winning yesterday.
Now it may be +13
December 5th, 2011 at 8:31 am
Inonewordraider Says:
I always thought of Raider fans as the baddest in the NFL but on here sounds more like the a bunch a crybaby whining bit#hes to me
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Amazing what 8 years of a crappy product does to a fan base, isn’t it?
December 5th, 2011 at 8:32 am
The thing that kills me on some of these holding calls, not the ones against Veldheer, is that the guys doing it don’t even need to sometimes.
The second Barnes flag, they guy was sliding to the turf, and he just hooks him.
The week before, Satele on a screen just runs up to some guy and tackles him from behind.
Insane lack of football IQ.
December 5th, 2011 at 8:32 am
Dont get Seymore. Be a Pro. Quitting like that from the D’s leader sends a bad message about the team.
December 5th, 2011 at 8:32 am
Raiders +11
December 5th, 2011 at 8:33 am
If Denver loses to KC, Raiders beat KC and SD and both teams finish 10- 6. Don’t the Raiders hold the tie breaker.
December 5th, 2011 at 8:33 am
If it’s less than Raiders +19, don’t take the points.
December 5th, 2011 at 8:34 am
If 2 of these three: Ford, Moore, DMAC practice since Wed + Romac plays healthily = we’ll beat the Peckers
December 5th, 2011 at 8:35 am
Insane lack of football IQ.
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We see it sprinkled throughout the team week in and week out.
December 5th, 2011 at 8:35 am
Hue’s big punishment for McClain was missing the first defensive snap. Let ‘em have it Huey.
He should suspend Seymour for next weeks game. That fool is leading the wrong way time and time again.
December 5th, 2011 at 8:35 am
805.RaidingTexas Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 8:16 am
I don’t know why I have to keep saying this. The Raiders are NOT in first place. From NFL.com:
Oakland Raiders
2nd AFC West (7-5-0)
They cannot win any tiebreakers with Denver. Therefore they are second in the division.
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Really?
Bummer.
Well, lets hope a Bears team with no starting QB or RB can beat Denver next week to give us a fighting chance….cuz we are not beating GB at GB.
If that happens we can still win the division…..but otherwise it is better luck next year for us.
December 5th, 2011 at 8:35 am
Chuky B vs Aaron Rodgers at home…+11? seems kinda low, no?
December 5th, 2011 at 8:37 am
Seymour may get suspended from the league.
2nd ejection in the last two years for throwing a punch, and was also fined a few other times as well.
December 5th, 2011 at 8:37 am
Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 8:35 am
Chuky B vs Aaron Rodgers at home…+11? seems kinda low, no?
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Put some cash on the Packers. I might.
December 5th, 2011 at 8:37 am
Silverback Says:
If Denver loses to KC
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Sorry, couldn’t stop laughing after the first five words to read the rest of your comment.
December 5th, 2011 at 8:38 am
I will be in Vegas, and will probably tease the Raiders up on some parlay cards.
Can’t take 11 points and be too comfortable. It might be 14-0 6 minutes into the game.
December 5th, 2011 at 8:38 am
You would have to have a pretty low football IQ to blame the QB for yesterdays loss.
We lost the battle at the LOS on both sides of the ball yesterday no running game no passing game.
Not to mention that Boss dropped two passes.
The D got zero penetration so the secondary had to work harder.
Guys lost their cool like Seymour and cost us with penalties.
The biggest culprit for yesterdays melt down was Mr McClain for causing a nice distraction for everyone during the week!
December 5th, 2011 at 8:39 am
850.Carl Weathers Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 8:37 am
Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 8:35 am
Chuky B vs Aaron Rodgers at home…+11? seems kinda low, no?
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Put some cash on the Packers. I might.
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Las Vegas loves to throw those Trick games out there… the low line actually gives me some hope!
December 5th, 2011 at 8:39 am
Look people. Its simple. Look at how much HUE is LOVING Palmer. He has basically stopped running the ball. He wants to JUSTIFY palmer so badly that he’s just setting the Raiders up for failure. Maimi sat on ALL the routes yesterday because its no “secret” all HUE’s plays are across the middle and no more than 10-15 yds.
He uses the pass to setup the run.
December 5th, 2011 at 8:40 am
Dont get Seymore. Be a Pro. Quitting like that from the D’s leader sends a bad message about the team.
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Incognito was cheap shotting our players all game.
Was engaged with Seymour during that play and they were both giving each other the business.
Most of the former players I saw commenting on the play said Seymour shouldn’t have been ejected. Half the bloggers on here feel the ejection was BS.
Team leader stepping up to a player cheap shotting our guys???? Where’s the problem.
And isn’t Seymour playing HURT, unlike some other guys on the team????
December 5th, 2011 at 8:40 am
I teased them up yesterday to +7.5 with Pitt -7 & Tenn teased to -3. Obviously it didn’t help!
I think I’ll tease the Pack to -9.5.
December 5th, 2011 at 8:42 am
I guess you guys think JCampbell would have led us to victory yesterday right? Hilarious
December 5th, 2011 at 8:42 am
Dakota
http://us.rd.yahoo.com/sports/rss/nba/SIG=11mj6m0td/*http%3A//sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ycn-10598497
December 5th, 2011 at 8:43 am
RaidingTexas Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 8:37 am
Silverback Says:
If Denver loses to KC
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Sorry, couldn’t stop laughing after the first five words to read the rest of your comment.
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yea your right
December 5th, 2011 at 8:43 am
Team leader stepping up to a player cheap shotting our guys???? Where’s the problem.
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The problem is he wasn’t STEPPING up anything. That was the weakest punch EVER! If you want to STEP up, put the guy on his ass and make a play.
December 5th, 2011 at 8:43 am
767.Method To My Madness Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 7:59 am
762.CJ Legend 34 Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 7:58 am
***Some of you Raiders fans suck!!!******
Because of injury we have a new Raiders team every
week. Hck Hue had to speed dial a lot of players off the street this year.
I don’t think some of you clowns get that!
The 45 yard TD of only two we got aginst Miami came from a QB who did not think he was going to play this year and a WR (Hush) who was an at home Mom to his kid a month ago.
D@mn give Hue some credit! I guess you want Cable back?
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Fk that schit! All excuses for not winning the division…..you need a home playoff game…especially this year inthe Bay Area where the other team is for sure having a home playoff game! You dont get it!
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No I get it. Like it or not SF is a better team and a helthier team.
We will get there.
December 5th, 2011 at 8:44 am
Let’s try that again …
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ycn-10598497
December 5th, 2011 at 8:44 am
Seasons are decided early….I know most people claim the real season doesn’t start until thanksgiving, but that early season loss to the Bills crippled our chances, not to mention the meltdown vs Dungver.
Can’t lost games like that.
December 5th, 2011 at 8:44 am
14 rushes for 48 yards….That is a defeatist mentality to attempt to build a game plan around…Send everyone to Decatur because I don’t know what the rest of the team did as far as preparing for Miami….Maybe the tape of last years 10 rushes a game wasn’t available….
December 5th, 2011 at 8:45 am
Everybody is playing hurt 12 weeks into the season.
Jill when did you start watching football ?
Fk Seymour, he is a worthless slob.
December 5th, 2011 at 8:45 am
Yeah, that Seymour rejection was real weak. Was not that bad at all.
December 5th, 2011 at 8:46 am
Mr. Silverback,
Yes. If Den finishes 10-6 and their 6th loss is to KC, and if we finish 10-6, and our 6th loss is to GB or Det, we win the AFC West.
tie breakers for division:
1. head to head
2. record in division
3. record vs common opponents
4. record in conference
peace
December 5th, 2011 at 8:46 am
JHill you know as well as I do these guys love to jump to the conclusions that lay at the bottom of the cliffs they dwell on. Knee jerk reaction is par for the course, as is drivel and idiocy. Our B squad got handled yesterday. These guys just can’t take it for what it was.
December 5th, 2011 at 8:47 am
About Seymour he just threw a little jab thinking he wouldn’t get caught, happens often but he got caught,much better than his blatant face masks or the Brady after the whistle weak tackle
December 5th, 2011 at 8:48 am
This team just quits. How long are we going to have to listen to Jackson say “We’ll get better”? When is Seymour going to start acting like the leader he’s supposed to be and Khalif Barnes???? Why is he even stil on this team????
December 5th, 2011 at 8:48 am
Since when was punching somebody in the face not an ejection? He got ejected when he slugged Rothlisberger last year. Like I’ve said a dozen times if Seymour was making plays between meltdowns you could tolerate this stuff but he doesn’t. He was getting pushed off the LOS scrimmage 5 yards thats why he threw that punch.
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CJ Legend 34 Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 8:45 am
Yeah, that Seymour rejection was real weak. Was not that bad at all.
December 5th, 2011 at 8:49 am
RaidingTexas Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 8:31 am
Inonewordraider Says:
I always thought of Raider fans as the baddest in the NFL but on here sounds more like the a bunch a crybaby whining bit#hes to me
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Amazing what 8 years of a crappy product does to a fan base, isn’t it?
December 5th, 2011 at 8:51 am
Well said Bcz24
December 5th, 2011 at 8:51 am
Silverback Says:
yea your right
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Sorry man, I was just being a smartazz. But nothing about the way Denver is playing right now makes me think that will happen. Yes, technically the Raiders can win a tiebreaker on division record. Anything can and does happen in the NFL, but I just don’t see Denver with the chip-on-his-shoulder QB blowing it against KC if it comes down to that game.
The best scenario for Oakland is to win out and hope Denver is tripped up by either Chicago or NE. Or for Denver to lose both of those games and Oakland go 3-1.
December 5th, 2011 at 8:53 am
AFC West is the new NFC West.
December 5th, 2011 at 8:53 am
LOL,
you guys realize they don’t have standings
1. ____
1. ____
2. ____
3. ____
They’re always 1 through 4. Some sites will indicate if there is a tie but that’s rare. It’s usually in alphabetical order if there is a tie.
If Denver currently owns the tie-breaker and that’s why they appear 1st on the list, fine — I stand corrected.
There’s 4 weeks left. I’ll let tie-breaker stuff sort itself out. As fans, we have the luxury to worry about such things.
Team gotta take it one game at a time.
This was such a wasted opportunity, it makes me sick and I can tell it did the same to you guys, but the season is’t over.
It wasn’t over when we were 4-4 either.
The margin of error has just shrunk to almost nothing.
December 5th, 2011 at 8:53 am
So let me ask you guys a question.
Lets say we get Moore, DMAC & Ford and even Moss back for the Detroit game. Is our defense good enough to win a game for us if we have a game where we have to settle for FG’s in the redzone?
December 5th, 2011 at 8:54 am
Well, after embarrassment, they seem to respond….Can we call yesterdays performance an embarrassment……From an effort standpoint……????
December 5th, 2011 at 8:56 am
T Kelly is the best interview after a game with his big country tude. More TK on the post game shows please!
December 5th, 2011 at 8:56 am
oakraidermike-NY Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 8:48 am
This team just quits. How long are we going to have to listen to Jackson say “We’ll get better”? When is Seymour going to start acting like the leader he’s supposed to be and Khalif Barnes???? Why is he even stil on this team????
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Disagree.
We were out of the NE game and didn’t quit and came out and won the next game. We didn’t quit v. KC and came out an lead the next game (blew it in the 4th).
We didn’t quit yesterday either. Miami went soft with a big lead, but we still got 2 TDs and most guys were still playing hard and playing like professionals.
December 5th, 2011 at 8:57 am
M Nolan is a brilliant D-Cor and has Mia’s defense playing good sound football. Couple that with all our weapons in street clothes and Bres just not very good.
December 5th, 2011 at 8:58 am
Lets say we get Moore, DMAC & Ford and even Moss back for the Detroit game. Is our defense good enough to win a game for us if we have a game where we have to settle for FG’s in the redzone?
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It can be.
Or it could be awful.
Defense is wildly inconsistent.
Coverage on kicks and punts has been real poor ever since Schneider left, too.
That’s been hurting us pretty bad last 2 years.
December 5th, 2011 at 8:58 am
RaidingTexas Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 8:51 am
Silverback Says:
yea your right
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Sorry man, I was just being a smartazz. But nothing about the way Denver is playing right now makes me think that will happen. Yes, technically the Raiders can win a tiebreaker on division record. Anything can and does happen in the NFL, but I just don’t see Denver with the chip-on-his-shoulder QB blowing it against KC if it comes down to that game.
The best scenario for Oakland is to win out and hope Denver is tripped up by either Chicago or NE. Or for Denver to lose both of those games and Oakland go 3-1.
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Agree it is not likely that KC goes into Denver and beats a Bronco a99.
December 5th, 2011 at 9:00 am
Morning peoples!
Its simple. 2 reasons why we lost yesterday….
1. We got manhandled in the trenches.
2. Hue has part of the blame for not having the troopers ready to play
December 5th, 2011 at 9:04 am
I said last week that this was an absolute must win game and the team looked way too emotionless and lethargic out there. They played with zero heart, especially the D. Both lines got manhandled yesterday.
The D plays with no intensity other than Curry who got beat a bunch of times. Definitely no ROI on the D money guys like Kelly, Seymour, Huff and Wimbley. Now dead last in the league vs. the run, back to quare one. Now they go to GB, then the Lions at home, based on the performance yesterday, it is hard to imagine winning either game. Those L’s put them at .500 at 7-7 then they got 2 divisional winnable games but that puts them at 9-7 at best. I dont think 9-7 gets them in as a wild card let alone the division. It is all due to the hapless defense spearheaded by the worst DC in football. Hopefully DMAC returns, Ford returns, and Moore returns. I dont care how hurt they still are, if they can stand and walk, they better play, otherwise its over.
December 5th, 2011 at 9:05 am
OLINE GAVE UP 11 SACKS THE FIRST 8 GAMES.
OLINE HAS GIVEN UP 17 SACKS TE LAST 4 GAMES….
CHANGES NEED TO OCCUR…
December 5th, 2011 at 9:06 am
Thec,
What up
December 5th, 2011 at 9:07 am
MistaBrown Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 8:57 am
M Nolan is a brilliant D-Cor and has Mia’s defense playing good sound football. Couple that with all our weapons in street clothes and Bres just not very good.
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Yep, it is time to go in on Bresh…
get Del Rio in to salvage the season…
The D with all its money ball guys cannot win schit for us….
December 5th, 2011 at 9:08 am
Just the luck we needed.
Forte probably won’t face the Donks.
I think he’s more important to that team, than Cutler.
December 5th, 2011 at 9:12 am
More on the tie breakers:
If Den finishes 10-6 and their 6th loss is to KC, and if we finish 10-6, and our 6th loss is to GB or Det, we win the AFC West on a better indivision record (4-2 vs 3-3).
tie breakers for division:
1. head to head
2. record in division
3. record vs common opponents
4. record in conference
however, if we both finish 10-6 and Denver’s 6th loss is to either Chi, NE, or Buff, and our 6th loss is to either GB or Det we both have 4-2 division records, but the next tie-breaker is record vs. common opponents, and Den would be 5-3 to our 4-4, and Den would win the AFC West
peace
December 5th, 2011 at 9:14 am
The season isn’t over… but if it were:
Get a GM to minimize Hue’s workload and possible distractions. Reggie McKenzie seems like the front-runner. Strong resume and ties to the organization.
Get a proven DC who can keep games close and doesn’t put the offense in a bad position. Del Rio and Spagnuolo might be options (Spagnuolo could be a very good fit if Waufle sticks around). Dennis Thurman will be in the running again, as I’m sure Winston Moss and Kevin Greene will be if McKenzie is the GM.
Trade TK for mid/late-round picks to get salary cap relief.
If the money is there, go hard after Mario Williams or or Paul Soliai (depending on the new DC’s scheme).
Go for value at LB in free agency: Barrett Ruud, Stewart Bradley, or DeAndre Levy. Jarrett Johnson might be a good value pickup at LB, depending on scheme – versatile enough for 4-3 or 3/4, can play OLB and a little DE.
More Wimbley at RDE, more Houston at 3-tech DT (again, depending on scheme).
Re-sign Tyvon Branch and Marcel Reece, Stephon Heyer, and make a competitive offer to Michael Bush.
Continue to build up the offensive line and secondary in the draft. Find some linebacker depth, as well. Some mid/late-round prospects to keep an eye on:
DT Tydreke Powell, UNC (3-4)
CB Leonard Johnson, Iowa State (3-4)
DE Jake Bequette, Arkansas (4-5)
LB Chris Galippo, USC (5-6)
RB Marc Tyler, USC (5-6)
S Harrison Smith, Notre Dame (5-6)
… and if any team offers a 1st rounder for McFadden, take it.
Also, Khalif Barnes needs to go. The team needs to see if Barksdale or Campbell can take over at RT. Carlisle and Satele need to play like they were earlier in the season, or else those two starting spots are question marks as well. Personally, I thought the offensive line looked stronger with Wiz II at C and Heyer at LG.
December 5th, 2011 at 9:20 am
Also do not ever play Curry at mike…ever…
December 5th, 2011 at 9:20 am
No the Raiders are Not in 1st place…. If the playoffs started today the Donkeys would be in and We’d be out…. That’s how huge yesterday’s loss was…this can’t be exceptable to the team or coaches…..
December 5th, 2011 at 9:24 am
… and if any team offers a 1st rounder for McFadden, take it.
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Not trading McFadden for the #18 pick in the draft.
December 5th, 2011 at 9:24 am
Thec07 Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 9:05 am
OLINE GAVE UP 11 SACKS THE FIRST 8 GAMES.
OLINE HAS GIVEN UP 17 SACKS TE LAST 4 GAMES….
CHANGES NEED TO OCCUR…
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Palmer on 5 and 7 step drops.
Need some quick-hitters, Hue! Get creative.
Seems like Hue’s creativity has gone completely out the window.
Our weapons need to play in GB no matter where they’re at health-wise.
Ford should go. Moore is getting close. McFadden, who knows? But I’ll take DMC at 70% in a must-win playoff type game.
December 5th, 2011 at 9:26 am
THE RAIDER PREDICTION BOARD
Dedicated to the legacy of Al Davis
Protected by the rally squirrel and Coliseum rodents
2011 Raider Games
First: Ghostraider (exact score) Raiders 23 Broncos 20
Second: Sullivan44 Buffalo 38 Raiders 35
Third: Pretty Rick Raiders 34 Jets 24
Fourth: Sullivan44 Patriots 31 Raiders 14
Fifth: Fingers Raiders 24 Browns 17
Sixth: Zymurge Chiefs 28 Raiders 0 (WTF)
Honorable Mention: LA for PAIN
Seventh: Noone…at all. Broncos 38 Raiders 24
Eighth: La Milicia Negra (exact score (sadly))
Ninth: TheToozFan55 (exact score) Raiders 24 Bolts 17
Tenth: TRIPLE TIE (Exact score) Raiders 27 Vikings 20
R8eray + Just Fire Baby + The Big Banana
Eleventh: Beware of Raiders
1eyedpirate Raiders 27 Dolphins 20
8RaiderReign8 Raiders 26 Fins 21
860Todd Christensen Q……RAIDERS 41…..Tunas 17
Albert Bigelow Paine Raiders 20, Miami 17
Autopalm77 Miami 35 Raiders 14
Blackmamba_20 Raiders 34 Personality Disorder 10
baumraiders Raiders 30 Dolphins 20
Boner the Stoner Rrrrraaaaaaaaaiiiiiiddddddddeeeeeeeeeerrrrs 48
phonyphins 10
Canauk Raiders 27 – Fish 20
Carl Weathers Raiders 34-6 tuna
Cranberry Oakland Raiders 55 Miami Dolphins 9
Deja vu Raiders 24 Fins 17
DonManoukiansNeighbor Raiders 28- Fins 13
downsouthraider Raiders 27 Starkist 10
ElkGRaider W/DMAC Oaktown 31 Tuna 21
Without Oaktown 28 Tuna 27 (Nailbiter…)exlaraiderseasonticketholder 31-27 Raiders!
fingers Raiders 27.. Dolfins 17…
GG Raiders 41 Dolphins 17
ghostraiders Raiders 27.. Finns. .20
Gilligan Oaktown 34 Whats their faces 6
Hagar the Horrible Raiders 34 – Dolphins 13
humm babe Raiders 28 Doltins 7
imaquaman raiders 27 minnows 17
Just Fire Baby Raiders 37 Fighting Finkels 10
mcfadden20 Code Black 41 – everybody else 13
nwr8r raiders 38, seared ahi tuna rolls 13
Plunketthead Raiders 47 Gayfish 10
PlunkforHOF My beloved Oakland Raiders 38
Florida Guppies 17
Pretty Rick Oakland-32 Miami-20
R8RNAZ 27 -17 Raiders
r8dercain Raiders 30 Dolphins 10
R8ER MIKE SOakland 38 fish lips 6
r8eray 24-20 Raiders
Raider56 Raiders 24 Miami 6
RaiderintheRockies Raiders 23 Tuna 16
raidermarty RAIDERS 27 dolphins 13
RaiderOnHigh Raiders 41 Dollyphins 13
RaiderRetribution Raiders 35 – Miami 0
RaiderRockstar Oakland Thugs 30 Miami Goldfish 10
Raiders_83 Raiders 31 Tuna 17
The Realist Dirty Raccoon Al Davis’ Raiders, 38
Fried Fish 6
Silverandblack666 Raiders 27 Dolphins 16
SilverAndBlackBleeder Raiders 47 Flippers 13
December 5th, 2011 at 9:26 am
Ledge Dwellers and Kleenex Crew, just make me a deal that if we beat Green Bay, you’re not allowed to talk Super Bowl, Playoffs or anything of the like.
December 5th, 2011 at 9:27 am
Bush is reminding me more and more of Lamont Jordan.
December 5th, 2011 at 9:28 am
I have a hardtime believing anyone would trade for our injured RB …might as well forget that nonsense..we have to hope that McFadden gets healthy and can stay healthy for awhile ….
Nobody wants an injured player….
December 5th, 2011 at 9:29 am
Money Line all day on the Raiders!!!
December 5th, 2011 at 9:30 am
J Hill Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 9:24 am
… and if any team offers a 1st rounder for McFadden, take it.
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Not trading McFadden for the #18 pick in the draft.
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Personally? I don’t think it’s worth having a game-changing running back when he plays less than ten games per season, and even in the games he plays he can’t carry the team alone. Remember the Colts and Dolphins games from last season? McFadden would not have made a difference yesterday, even if he WAS healthy. Which he wasn’t, and might not even be for a must-win game at GB. If you can’t justify re-signing a guy like that to a big-money contract when his rookie deal is up, then you need to at least explore your trade options. If no deal is there to be made, then fine. But if an opportunity presents itself to get a draft pick or picks that could be building blocks on a team that’s aging at some key positions? You’d be insane to not at least consider it.
December 5th, 2011 at 9:30 am
Ledge Dwellers and Kleenex Crew, just make me a deal that if we beat Green Bay, you’re not allowed to talk Super Bowl, Playoffs or anything of the like.
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LOL!
December 5th, 2011 at 9:30 am
That game brought back memories of the bed and breakfast days…..ouch! Chuck B has got to go. I was glad when he left the last time he was here, can’t wait for next time. Special teams needs an upgrade as well. Stop shelving the top players or there will be nothing for them to play for when they’re healthy.
December 5th, 2011 at 9:31 am
I actually picked the Raiders to win yesterday…. I had no idea they would lay such a huge egg…. That team we saw yesterday couldnt beat a team if Blind Girlscouts…… They better be embarressed…
December 5th, 2011 at 9:33 am
I would rather lose like this than lose the way the Cowboys did yesterday…
Nice job by Garett, icing his own kicker..That’s a bonehead move that ends all debate about boneheaded moves…
December 5th, 2011 at 9:33 am
Raiders will beat GB….
December 5th, 2011 at 9:33 am
Whats the famous Madden quote about a wagon?
December 5th, 2011 at 9:34 am
YA,
I agreed with most of your post.
I’d address all those other things WAY before I think about trading McFadden.
Having McFadden healthy for those last 3 games and the playoffs is going to be HUGE!
Agree that he can’t do anything by himself. Same can be said for a lot of positions on the field.
December 5th, 2011 at 9:34 am
Thec07 Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 9:33 am
Raiders will beat GB….
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that’s what I’m talking about, us against the world!
December 5th, 2011 at 9:34 am
And the winner is Autopalm77. What a guy!
See ya on Tuesday.
THE RAIDER PREDICTION BOARD
Dedicated to the legacy of Al Davis
Protected by the rally squirrel and Coliseum rodents
2011 Raider Games
First: Ghostraider (exact score) Raiders 23 Broncos 20
Second: Sullivan44 Buffalo 38 Raiders 35
Third: Pretty Rick Raiders 34 Jets 24
Fourth: Sullivan44 Patriots 31 Raiders 14
Fifth: Fingers Raiders 24 Browns 17
Sixth: Zymurge Chiefs 28 Raiders 0 (WTF)
Honorable Mention: LA for PAIN
Seventh: Noone…at all. Broncos 38 Raiders 24
Eighth: La Milicia Negra (exact score (sadly))
Ninth: TheToozFan55 (exact score) Raiders 24 Bolts 17
Tenth: TRIPLE TIE (Exact score) Raiders 27 Vikings 20
R8eray + Just Fire Baby + The Big Banana
Eleventh: Beware of Raiders Raiders 25 Bears 20
Twelth: Autopalm77 Dolphins 34 Raiders 14
1eyedpirate Raiders 27 Dolphins 20
8RaiderReign8 Raiders 26 Fins 21
860Todd Christensen Q……RAIDERS 41…..Tunas 17
Albert Bigelow Paine Raiders 20, Miami 17
Autopalm77 Miami 35 Raiders 14
Blackmamba_20 Raiders 34 Personality Disorder 10
baumraiders Raiders 30 Dolphins 20
Boner the Stoner Rrrrraaaaaaaaaiiiiiiddddddddeeeeeeeeeerrrrs 48
phonyphins 10
Canauk Raiders 27 – Fish 20
Carl Weathers Raiders 34-6 tuna
Cranberry Oakland Raiders 55 Miami Dolphins 9
Deja vu Raiders 24 Fins 17
DonManoukiansNeighbor Raiders 28- Fins 13
downsouthraider Raiders 27 Starkist 10
ElkGRaider W/DMAC Oaktown 31 Tuna 21
Without Oaktown 28 Tuna 27 (Nailbiter…)exlaraiderseasonticketholder 31-27 Raiders!
fingers Raiders 27.. Dolfins 17…
GG Raiders 41 Dolphins 17
ghostraiders Raiders 27.. Finns. .20
Gilligan Oaktown 34 Whats their faces 6
Hagar the Horrible Raiders 34 – Dolphins 13
humm babe Raiders 28 Doltins 7
imaquaman raiders 27 minnows 17
Just Fire Baby Raiders 37 Fighting Finkels 10
mcfadden20 Code Black 41 – everybody else 13
nwr8r raiders 38, seared ahi tuna rolls 13
Plunketthead Raiders 47 Gayfish 10
PlunkforHOF My beloved Oakland Raiders 38
Florida Guppies 17
Pretty Rick Oakland-32 Miami-20
R8RNAZ 27 -17 Raiders
r8dercain Raiders 30 Dolphins 10
R8ER MIKE SOakland 38 fish lips 6
r8eray 24-20 Raiders
Raider56 Raiders 24 Miami 6
RaiderintheRockies Raiders 23 Tuna 16
raidermarty RAIDERS 27 dolphins 13
RaiderOnHigh Raiders 41 Dollyphins 13
RaiderRetribution Raiders 35 – Miami 0
RaiderRockstar Oakland Thugs 30 Miami Goldfish 10
Raiders_83 Raiders 31 Tuna 17
The Realist Dirty Raccoon Al Davis’ Raiders, 38
Fried Fish 6
Silverandblack666 Raiders 27 Dolphins 16
SilverAndBlackBleeder Raiders 47 Flippers 13
December 5th, 2011 at 9:36 am
The Superbowl talk was and is nonsense. The playoff talk was (and still should be) hypothetical.
Like I said before the season, this team doesn’t have enough talent for a deep postseason run. And if they keep giving up games like this (games that GOOD, CONTENDING TEAMS find a way to win), they might not even have enough talent to get to the playoffs. I thought this was an 8-8 or 9-7 team, and even 9-7 might not be good enough to straight-up win the division.
Palmer has been solid, but he’s not the most mobile guy in the world. He’ll make better decisions than Campbell would more times than not, but the offensive line NEEDS to keep him clean.
December 5th, 2011 at 9:37 am
912…good post…. Reality based…..
December 5th, 2011 at 9:38 am
Congratulations AutoPalm77!!!!!
December 5th, 2011 at 9:39 am
Put next week’s prediction up for me:
Packers 31, Raiders 21
December 5th, 2011 at 9:41 am
Except for just a couple teams the league is pretty weak…..if the match ups in the playoffs were favorable I thought the Raiders might have a shot to make some noise….. Yesterday’s game killed that thought…… Win the remaining games?… Doubtful after what I saw yesterday..
December 5th, 2011 at 9:44 am
906.MikieG Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 9:33 am
I would rather lose like this than lose the way the Cowboys did yesterday…
Nice job by Garett, icing his own kicker..That’s a bonehead move that ends all debate about boneheaded moves…
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Not me. At least they know they probably should have won that game. We had no business being on the field yesterday.
December 5th, 2011 at 9:44 am
I don’t think the Raiders could match up against the Steelers or Ravens at this point. On paper the NE matchup isn’t bad, and the Raiders played them well outside of Campbell’s mistakes and a handful of defensive miscues, but they have so much more experience in the playoffs than the Raiders do that I couldn’t see the Raiders overcoming that.
The Raiders could manage wild card/divisional matchups against the Bengals or Texans, but after that I’m really not confident in their chances.
December 5th, 2011 at 9:44 am
DMAC Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 9:00 am
Morning peoples!
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You guys know its coming right?
Well then……….
FK you guys 2 this beautiful morning in the O-A-K
December 5th, 2011 at 9:45 am
DMAC, whats good Bruh????
December 5th, 2011 at 9:46 am
We just need to make the playoffs. I don’t give a damn if its a wild card spot. Just get there.
Its a different ball game in the playoffs.
Anything is possible.
December 5th, 2011 at 9:46 am
Our team getting its A$$ beat is one thing….. But I wanna see our team put up somekind of fight… They were pushed around on all levels yesterday…..the Raiders were never in yesterday’s game…. Not acceptable ..can’t wait to hear what Hue Jackson says today at his presser …
December 5th, 2011 at 9:46 am
LA to TheBay Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 9:26 am
Ledge Dwellers and Kleenex Crew, just make me a deal that if we beat Green Bay, you’re not allowed to talk Super Bowl, Playoffs or anything of the like.
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Deal. If the Raiders win the next 3 games, then I’ll start talking playoffs, but even those might be out of reach with Denver on the warpath and the path to the playoffs seeming to run through the division title only.
December 5th, 2011 at 9:47 am
Well …. its Monday and it doesn’t sting that bad anymore. Our team is depleted and without getting guys like McFadden, Ford and Moore, we have no chance to win the division. Thats the reality ….
Bush has been great as long as he could, but teams will clog lanes and Bush struggles cutback/kick out or stretch plays when he can’t get some steam going before tacklers come. Our WR are too thin, DHB and Chaz have been good, but Moore and Ford would impose too many threats for oppossing defenses.
Its about scoring folks we need to score 24 to 31 to win. Our defense is terrible. Scheme, coach, players, pick whatever you want to blame but our defense is awful.
Palmer has been admirable with whats around him. This team can still win the division, but the injury report will dictate that.
December 5th, 2011 at 9:47 am
Would Love to See some of this from Hue…:
The coach’s frustration peaked on the final play of the third quarter when Bucs linebacker Geno Hayes sacked Newton for a 4-yard loss only to have tackle Brian Price flagged for unnecessary roughness. It was not clear what Price did to draw the penalty.
Morris removed Price from the game and ‘’sent him home.”
”It was foolish. It’s selfish to your teammates, to everybody in the organization, to your fans. That’s terrible. That’s just selfish behavior, to get a 15-yard penalty in that situation when that’s all we talk about, that’s all we discuss,” Morris said. ”You just don’t do that to your team.”
December 5th, 2011 at 9:47 am
Thec,
I’m cool. Ugly loss yesterday. Time to move on.
I still think we can upset the Pack, if w/ get a few players back.
December 5th, 2011 at 9:47 am
when 1 gets into the playoffs ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN…
GB was 9-7 last year…peaked at the right time…
Not worried about the Playoffs…\
We need to beat GB, that is the focus…
No victory monday, beat GB on Sunday….
December 5th, 2011 at 9:47 am
Link>
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/Carolina-Panthers-beat-Tampa-Bay-Buccaneers-120411
December 5th, 2011 at 9:48 am
The Raiders could manage wild card/divisional matchups against the Bengals or Texans, but after that I’m really not confident in their chances.
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We just gotta get hot at the right time.
Hopefully we just got a fart out of our system there and we’re back to rolling.
We manufactored a win v. Chicago, put up points in bunches against MN, and out-muscled SD for a 3 game win streak.
It would be one thing if the Raiders at their best got smashed yesterday.
But we weren’t at our best. We looked jet-lagged or hung over for 3.5 quarters.
We just gotta turn it on and Hue has to call superb games because we can’t rely on such an inconsistent defense.
December 5th, 2011 at 9:49 am
Morris blamed everything everything from the lockout to his schedule for a slow start.
No thanks.
Hue’s taking some heat in here (some of it justifiable, most of it ridiculous) but he’s got the Raiders moving in the right direction.
December 5th, 2011 at 9:49 am
Have I ever told you guys how much I hate Tebow?
December 5th, 2011 at 9:50 am
We just gotta get hot at the right time.
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Thats what I’m saying. I don’t give a damn if we go in as a wild card.
Just make the playoffs!
December 5th, 2011 at 9:50 am
926.MikieG Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 9:47 am
Would Love to See some of this from Hue…:
The coach’s frustration peaked on the final play of the third quarter when Bucs linebacker Geno Hayes sacked Newton for a 4-yard loss only to have tackle Brian Price flagged for unnecessary roughness. It was not clear what Price did to draw the penalty.
Morris removed Price from the game and ‘’sent him home.”
”It was foolish. It’s selfish to your teammates, to everybody in the organization, to your fans. That’s terrible. That’s just selfish behavior, to get a 15-yard penalty in that situation when that’s all we talk about, that’s all we discuss,” Morris said. ”You just don’t do that to your team.”
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Raheem Morris is also on a 6 game losing streak, and a 4-8 football team. Probably wont get a 3rd year either.
December 5th, 2011 at 9:50 am
BOTTOM LINE: If we don’t get some of our Offensive weapons back before this weekend, we’ll lose our next two games. Granted, I think we can win our last two though but we’re looking at a 9-7 season this year.
I’d sure hate us to get back to .500, but it looks like that’s what’s going to happen. After the next two weeks get ready for 7-7 boys…
December 5th, 2011 at 9:50 am
I hate to say it, but great call Autopalm77. Almost nailed it.
Autopalm77 Miami 35 Raiders 14
December 5th, 2011 at 9:52 am
WTF happened in the Donkey game yesterday?
When I was watching it, the game was tied and Minn was going to get the ball w/ a min so so left on the clock. How the hell did the Donkies score so fast?
December 5th, 2011 at 9:52 am
# Carl Weathers Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 9:44 am
906.MikieG Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 9:33 am
I would rather lose like this than lose the way the Cowboys did yesterday…
Nice job by Garett, icing his own kicker..That’s a bonehead move that ends all debate about boneheaded moves…
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Not me. At least they know they probably should have won that game. We had no business being on the field yesterday.
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To each his own…I would rather know we were going to lose by halftime, than have my heart torn out by losing on a a horribly stupid move by our coach, then go into O.T and have our Defense get shredded statt….
But that’s just me..
Either way, the Miami Loss is just one loss..the thing that sucks is that we are playing the Best team in the NFL in 7 days..and we just looked like the 29th best team in the NFL..Hell, I bet we would lose to the Panthers if they were on our Schedule..Newton and Steve Smith would wreck our stupid D..
December 5th, 2011 at 9:52 am
I wish we knew exactly what happened to DMC?
December 5th, 2011 at 9:52 am
Funny how Hue is the worst cOach ever now , seriously at 7-5 you guys are cryin like we got knocked out of the playoffs this is what needs to change with you guys ..we beat the Packers same guys will jump on Hues you know what n call him the greatest for gods sake the guy is leading us to our first winning season n you guys want to complain about that
December 5th, 2011 at 9:53 am
Anybody watch the Lions game last night?
Think Raiders/Lions might break the record for number of penalities called in a game?
December 5th, 2011 at 9:54 am
Hey Dmac , Christian Ponder threw an interception around 35 years line n re guy returne it 20 yards to the Minny 15 n rest you know
December 5th, 2011 at 9:54 am
931…. I hate everything about the Donkeys….. Can’t stand the thought of them winning our division… Let alone them overtaking us to do it…
December 5th, 2011 at 9:54 am
Our D needs to be revamped, we don’t have very many draft picks so hopefully Hue is going to be looking hard at free agency. We have some guys on D we should keep but there are a lot of mediocre players on that side of the ball.
December 5th, 2011 at 9:55 am
Code Black *** Code Black
December 5th, 2011 at 9:55 am
December 5th, 2011 at 9:52 am
WTF happened in the Donkey game yesterday?
When I was watching it, the game was tied and Minn was going to get the ball w/ a min so so left on the clock. How the hell did the Donkies score so fast?
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What I called would happen, happened on the first snap of the Minn last drive…Ponder Picked off..
I have never seen so many idiotic blown coverages in my life..I counted 3 back breaking completions to Denver Receivers where the Minn DB thought he had Safety help over the top..Just brutal, brutal defense. They were in Zone, because they had to be facing the LOS in case Tebow took off running..In each instance, the DB just passed his guy off to nothing and Tebow was hitting guys that were open by 15 yards..Minnesota should never have lost that game. The Bronco’s are the luckiest team in the League this year.
December 5th, 2011 at 9:55 am
DutchRaider77 Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 9:53 am
Anybody watch the Lions game last night?
Think Raiders/Lions might break the record for number of penalities called in a game?
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If Seymour & Suh are playing, it may set a record that will never be broken
December 5th, 2011 at 9:56 am
Hue is a great coach for this organization, but he is part blame for the ugly loss yesterday. Didn’t have the troops ready to play.
December 5th, 2011 at 9:56 am
It’s a mystery to me what happened to McFadden… He jogged off the field aginst Kc…. We were told it was a minor foot injury…. 6 weeksago …
December 5th, 2011 at 9:56 am
I’m starting to think that Seymour doesn’t have much left in the tank…
December 5th, 2011 at 9:57 am
HueJax is Mike White redux. A highly touted offensive guy who started believing his own press & got his job by sucking up to Al and undermining his predecessor.
December 5th, 2011 at 9:57 am
in a game?
mcfadden20. Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 9:54 am
Hey Dmac , Christian Ponder threw an interception around 35 years line n re guy returne it 20 yards to the Minny 15 n rest you know
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Thats what fk’n happened.
WOW?
December 5th, 2011 at 9:58 am
Have faith in Hue and the team CoDe Black will show us why it’s the best team in the AFC West , stop complaining about yesterday rather look at it this way … Maybe being tied will make us play Playoff football rest o the way n we could run the table , if they don’t, well then we are just not good enough this year
December 5th, 2011 at 10:00 am
Green Bay
Passing Yards 3rd – 308.8 yards
Rushing Yards – 29th 95.5 yards
Green Bay has no ground game?
Opp Passing Yards 31st 292.8 (ouch)
Opp Rushing Yards 13th 101.8
Not so good protecting against the rush. This is something the Raiders are good at.
Passing Yards – 16th 226.9
Rushing Yards – 4th 140.6
Rushing was higher until lost week
Opp passing Yds 17th 231.9
Opp rushing Yds 28th 141.4
If Raiders can run on Green Bay, and it appears they can be run on, the Raiders have a shot at this.
Plan B: Seymore roundhouses Rodgers and knocks him out of the game.
Maybe this should be plan A.
December 5th, 2011 at 10:00 am
This Donkey team reminds me of last years Chiefs.
OVERRATED (w/ a little luck)
But anyways we got to find a way to play tough every game on out, or the Donks will be in.
December 5th, 2011 at 10:00 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
HueJax is Mike White redux. A highly touted offensive guy who started believing his own press & got his job by sucking up to Al and undermining his predecessor.
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Why do so many people not understand that? He did the same thing in Cincy. The other Bengals coaches were definitely not sorry to see him leave.
December 5th, 2011 at 10:00 am
As for the pick 6 against us yesterday, I am going to have to assume that was Murphy’s fault..At no time in ANY game at ANY level are you to have 2 receivers in the same place at the same time..
Why?
Because they bring their defenders with them, so now you have 2 and usually 3 defenders in an area where there should be only 1…and you saw the result..
December 5th, 2011 at 10:01 am
DMac:
Minnesota didn’t play bad defense yesterday, they played no defense yesterday. Perhaps the worst I’ve seen all year (along with what happened in Miami yesterday). Three busted coverages kept Den in the game all day. And Ponder, who played his best game (almost 400 yards) (without AP btw), giftwrapped the game for Den with a pick from his own 15 with a minute left.
So everyone (sports media)who just reflexively gives all the credit for every Den win to Mr. Tebow should shut the fuch up – it’s getting nauseating.
December 5th, 2011 at 10:01 am
Code Black ^***^
December 5th, 2011 at 10:01 am
raiderjhawk Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 9:56 am
I’m starting to think that Seymour doesn’t have much left in the tank…
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He certainly wasn’t 100% yesterday.
Should of just sat out, because he looked horrible out there.
December 5th, 2011 at 10:02 am
Dear Santa,
I have been good this year and all I want for Christmas is a short list of gifts.
Can I please have the early season 2011 Darren McFadden with the big play kit.
and…….. I would also like the 4.3 Jacoby Ford complete with the WR, kickoff return and reverse combo.
and then lastly I really want the rookie Danrius Moore pass catcher with the sticky grip.
Lastly, I know other people need more important things but if I could have any kind of defense that works, even it were a simple one, that would complete my wish list.
Thank you Santa!
Merry Christmas!
December 5th, 2011 at 10:02 am
I still like the Palmer trade….despite the int’s I still believe he’s an upgrade….Palmer wasn’t the reason we lost yesterday …. Having second thoughts about Seymour… He’s gotta play smarter than that…..doesn’t practice then gets ejected….. I’m not off his bandwagon yet… But He’s wearing thin right now… Let’s see how the Team responds to yesterday’s huge loss… And it was huge
December 5th, 2011 at 10:03 am
Fingers said,
“It’s a mystery to me what happened to McFadden… He jogged off the field aginst Kc…. We were told it was a minor foot injury…. 6 weeksago …”
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I don’t think they are lying about McFadden’s injury.
Here’s a good link about mid-foot sprains. It’s clear they are not insignificant injuries when one’s job is running:
http://www.footeducation.com/lisfranc-injury-fracture-midfoot-sprain
What might have happened is what happens with, say, ankle sprains we’ve all experienced–it doesn’t feel bad at first when you walk it off. Then, hours later, the swelling gets bad.
December 5th, 2011 at 10:03 am
695.neilb Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 6:49 am
Don’t want to talk ’bout that awful display yesterday – still pi$$ed off.
Just wanted to wish Hwnrdr a Happy Birthday.
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OK Nation that’s it. No more Birthdays on this blog. It was my birthday when we played KC and I flew to Oakland and attended the game, my first in Oakland. So for now on if it is your birthday keep that stuff to yourself. I ain’t saying crap next year.
December 5th, 2011 at 10:03 am
I’m trying to tell you guys that we match up pretty well w/ GB. They don’t run the ball and their O-line is not the greatest.
If our D-line shows up we can win.
+ their D has been shaky all season long.
December 5th, 2011 at 10:04 am
J Hill Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 9:34 am
YA,
I agreed with most of your post.
I’d address all those other things WAY before I think about trading McFadden.
Having McFadden healthy for those last 3 games and the playoffs is going to be HUGE!
Agree that he can’t do anything by himself. Same can be said for a lot of positions on the field.
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I agree, the other things I listed should be priorities. And if the money isn’t there to improve the team, the Raiders should try to restructure DMac before getting into any kind of trade scenario.
The thing is, the Raiders are in a playoff push right now, and aren’t talented enough at a few crucial positions to keep themselves in the driver’s seat. Seymour, TK, Henderson, Bryant and Scott aren’t getting it done on the defensive line. This makes the limitations of the LB corps (McClain’s indecisiveness and lapses in concentration, Curry’s struggles in coverage, Wimbley’s limited skill set) stick out like a sore thumb. They’re losing the battle in the trenches, allowing blockers to negate the Raider pass rush, and it’s putting all the pressure on a back seven that lacks stand-out talent and depth.
The right side of the offensive line (Satele, Carlisle, and Barnes) have been getting manhandled, and that means when Veldheer can’t handle being one-on-one with the other team’s best pass rusher, a not-so-mobile Palmer has nowhere to go. Can’t step up. Can’t roll out. Losing the battles in the trenches, especially when dumb penalties come into play, is what makes this team constantly underachieve.
The way I see it, having a player like DMac (a gamebreaker who is occasionally healthy) is a luxury when your team can execute the basic things it needs to do to win football games. If McFadden’s salary is in the way of the Raiders getting younger and more talented at DT, or solidifying the right side of the offensive line (Carlisle and Barnes being the main culprits), then the Raiders need to explore their options.
Plenty of teams get it done with a rotation of solid RBs. Even Adrian Peterson can’t turn Minnesota into automatic contenders. Even Frank Gore’s impact was limited until the 49ers got stronger in the trenches (and in spite of Gore’s recent injuries, he’s been healthier for longer and played far more games through the first few years of his career than McFadden has).
Looking at the top salaries on this team, Kelly and McFadden are the only ones who stand out as being options for the Raiders if they need to move money around. Huff and Routt may have already re-structured before the season (although that was never confirmed, to my knowledge). With only a few million to work with under the salary cap, the Raiders need to make some moves so the team can improve.
December 5th, 2011 at 10:04 am
951.DMAC Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 9:57 am
in a game?
mcfadden20. Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 9:54 am
Hey Dmac , Christian Ponder threw an interception around 35 years line n re guy returne it 20 yards to the Minny 15 n rest you know
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Thats what fk’n happened.
WOW?
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Their first play of the drive after the donks tied it. INTERCEPTION!
December 5th, 2011 at 10:04 am
So everyone (sports media)who just reflexively gives all the credit for every Den win to Mr. Tebow should shut the fuch up – it’s getting nauseating.
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I think it was Tony Kornheiser on PTI who, when asked if he were a coach whose QB had to execute a 2 minute drill to win the Super Bowl would he want Tim Tebow or Aaron Rodgers….picked Tebow.
December 5th, 2011 at 10:04 am
fingers Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 10:02 am
I still like the Palmer trade….despite the int’s I still believe he’s an upgrade….Palmer wasn’t the reason we lost yesterday …. Having second thoughts about Seymour… He’s gotta play smarter than that…..doesn’t practice then gets ejected….. I’m not off his bandwagon yet… But He’s wearing thin right now… Let’s see how the Team responds to yesterday’s huge loss… And it was huge
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Agreed on all points.
December 5th, 2011 at 10:05 am
raiderinparadise Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 10:02 am
Dear Santa,
I have been good this year and all I want for Christmas is a short list of gifts.
Can I please have the early season 2011 Darren McFadden with the big play kit.
and…….. I would also like the 4.3 Jacoby Ford complete with the WR, kickoff return and reverse combo.
and then lastly I really want the rookie Danrius Moore pass catcher with the sticky grip.
Lastly, I know other people need more important things but if I could have any kind of defense that works, even it were a simple one, that would complete my wish list.
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LMAO
Well done.
December 5th, 2011 at 10:05 am
Code Black ***^^^
December 5th, 2011 at 10:05 am
Dear Santa,
I have been good this year and all I want for Christmas is a short list of gifts.
Can I please have the early season 2011 Darren McFadden with the big play kit.
and…….. I would also like the 4.3 Jacoby Ford complete with the WR, kickoff return and reverse combo.
and then lastly I really want the rookie Danrius Moore pass catcher with the sticky grip.
Lastly, I know other people need more important things but if I could have any kind of defense that works, even it were a simple one, that would complete my wish list.
Thank you Santa!
Merry Christmas!
December 5th, 2011 at 10:05 am
Waddup Nation – Tough L….real tough L…..
The way I see it; Denver is gonna go 9-7. They’ll lose against New England, and their road trip to Buffalo the 2nd to last week of the season isn’t going to be a cakewalk in what should be subzero conditions. But they should win their other two; Chicago without Forte and Hanie throwing picks all over the place, and Kansas City at home are both gimmes for them. All we have to do is go 10-6. We just gotta finish strong!!!! Our injured speedsters need to suck it up and realize we’re in a real fight now. Everyone is hurt; f being 100%. 80% will have to do. Let’s go! Hue Jack City
December 5th, 2011 at 10:06 am
Giants Stats:
Passing Yards 4th 296.1
Rushing Yards 32nd 83.8
Opp Passing Yards: 29th 260.3
Opp Rushing Yards: 23rd 127.0
December 5th, 2011 at 10:06 am
There is NOTHING wrong with Hue..dude is a rookie Head Coach, and he has had a TON of stuff on his plate…Everyone knows what he has had to go through this season..
There is the administrative side of being a head coach, and an X’s and O’s side of being a head coach..Most coaches hire an assistant H.C to handle either the administrative side, OR, the X’s and O’s side of the coin, however most ROOKIE COACHES try to do BOTH their first year, and become physically and mentally exhausted! Hue may be hitting that wall now. Based on who I think Hue is..he will hire someone to take care of the daily monotonous Administrative stuff, and he will concentrate on the X’s and O’s..he is learning ALOT right now, and next year he will be much better..
But for those of you crying for his head…
Do the initials F.O. mean anything to you?!
December 5th, 2011 at 10:06 am
Desmond Bryant > Seymour
December 5th, 2011 at 10:06 am
Heres the porblem:
We have a bunch of injured offensive players, and a bunch of overpaid defensive players…oh, and a brain dead DC in Chuky B.
December 5th, 2011 at 10:06 am
504 Raider Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 10:03 am
695.neilb Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 6:49 am
Don’t want to talk ’bout that awful display yesterday – still pi$$ed off.
Just wanted to wish Hwnrdr a Happy Birthday.
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OK Nation that’s it. No more Birthdays on this blog. It was my birthday when we played KC and I flew to Oakland and attended the game, my first in Oakland.
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OUCH! I feel for ya bro. I hope the rest of your trip was enjoyable.
December 5th, 2011 at 10:07 am
I really think Denver runs the table, even against New England.
Here’s why: New England’s defense is a joke that Tebow will run all over and the Donk’s defense is good enough to keep it close. Basically exactly what Denver did yesterday.
December 5th, 2011 at 10:07 am
Another thing. It’s possible that McFadden didn’t do what the doctors told him to do 100% of the time, as in staying off the foot, elevating it, wearing the boot, etc. Who knows? He may have been on the road to an earlier recovery and then taken one ill-advised step, and voila, re-injury or an injury that made things worse.
December 5th, 2011 at 10:07 am
Win and your in!
Let’s go!!!!!!!
December 5th, 2011 at 10:08 am
LoL ok, so since we has zero LB’s that can guard anybody were screwed. Finley, Quarless, Nelson, Lee, Driver, Cobb, and on and on. It easy to see to beat our pass D you can just throw drag routes all day because our Lb’s will be trailing them by 3-4 yards out of place.
and when you get to the red-zone you throw to Routt. all day.
GB will kill us on the ground if they want to.
December 5th, 2011 at 10:09 am
Luvmarv… First, thanks for the info …. But if it’s been 6 + weeks than its more than Just a minor injury…it’s been far more that swelling after a few hours…. Going on 8 weeks now .,.. That’s not at all minor…I’d just like to know his real status ..
December 5th, 2011 at 10:09 am
#965 That should be “when your team *can’t* execute”.
December 5th, 2011 at 10:10 am
Is the sky falling yet?
In some ways, it was good to get blown out and embarrassed if we were going to lose. We usually bounce back really strong the next game.
2009 vs Eagles after beign blown out by the Giants a week before.
We will prob lose in GB but I think we will give them a run for their money. 10-6 for the year.
December 5th, 2011 at 10:10 am
745.fingers Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 7:50 am
Did McFaddens leg fall off…. What the hell is up with his injury?… We were told it was minor….. If he can’t play then IR his A$$….and stop with the nonsense…
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Told you guys this after the KC game. DMAc has Turf Toe.
December 5th, 2011 at 10:10 am
Well yesterday was all code pink so I think I’m gonna hold off on saying Code Black until they beat Packers next week
December 5th, 2011 at 10:10 am
raiderinparadise Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 10:08 am
LoL ok, so since we has zero LB’s that can guard anybody were screwed. Finley, Quarless, Nelson, Lee, Driver, Cobb, and on and on. It easy to see to beat our pass D you can just throw drag routes all day because our Lb’s will be trailing them by 3-4 yards out of place.
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This is exactly why the Raiders are screwed no matter what anyone says.
Green Bay can win without handing the ball off a single time. Just run continual 4 and 5 wide sets and make the Raiders try to find enough guys to cover Jennings, Driver, Nelson and Finley all day.
Seriously, guys: if you think the Raiders can win next week, how do propose they deal with those guys?
Green Bay’s defense has shown some cracks this season, so I’ll be optimistic here: Green Bay 45 – Raiders 21. Rodgers on the bench sipping hot cocoa midway through the 3rd while Matt Flynn plays out the garbage time.
December 5th, 2011 at 10:11 am
anyone else notice that Schilens didn’t finish the game and limped off.
glass schilens at it again.
December 5th, 2011 at 10:12 am
I really think Denver runs the table, even against New England.
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I dont know if Tebow can keep up with NE’s scoring. Ponder gifted the game to Denver. Denver has a hard enough time scoring and Ponder keeps on gifting them points.
December 5th, 2011 at 10:12 am
raiderinparadise Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 10:11 am
anyone else notice that Schilens didn’t finish the game and limped off.
glass schilens at it again.
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No I didn’t. When was this?
December 5th, 2011 at 10:12 am
The excuse machine is in full force here. Beeee esssssss!
Denver is figuring it out with one third the talent (with the injuries)
The raiders mailed it in yesterday. No f’n crying about DMaC or the receivers. The raiders would have lost yesterday AT FULL STRENGTH!
Lame penalties (10 of them) and the same garbage defense with A WEAK middle getting manhandled AGAIN!
Man up or stf down. This team was HANDED the AFC West and Hue believed its win now! Screw next year. With no picks and the team at the salary cap limit (amazing isn’t it) this team won’t change much from its current incarnation.
Only the competition gets tougher.
DMAC averages 9 carries a gm. So stop the whining! SO a B!
December 5th, 2011 at 10:13 am
after a blowout like that its good to have a game in a big spotlight to come into work pupmed up for rather than dread the loss.
the broncos game we lost handidly late and then had a big game at SD thursday night and played well.
GB aint no SD but ya feel me?
December 5th, 2011 at 10:13 am
988.raiderinparadise Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 10:11 am
anyone else notice that Schilens didn’t finish the game and limped off.
glass schilens at it again.
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NOOOOOO!! For real?
December 5th, 2011 at 10:13 am
977.Carl Weathers Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 10:06 am
504 Raider Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 10:03 am
695.neilb Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 6:49 am
Don’t want to talk ’bout that awful display yesterday – still pi$$ed off.
Just wanted to wish Hwnrdr a Happy Birthday.
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OK Nation that’s it. No more Birthdays on this blog. It was my birthday when we played KC and I flew to Oakland and attended the game, my first in Oakland.
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OUCH! I feel for ya bro. I hope the rest of your trip was enjoyable.
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Had we won the game it would have geen the greatest bday in my life. I still had a blast. I mean it was awesome just being in that Coliseum. I drink out of my cup I got from the concession stand every night.
December 5th, 2011 at 10:14 am
If Barnes second penalty was a hold then why no flag when they tried to stand up McClain ,Big Rich got mad after that…..all our most dangerous players were missing so the `end-around` is missing and that play we need to keep defences olb honest, all our speed return next week
Go Raiders
December 5th, 2011 at 10:14 am
Ok well I’ll say It one more time Code Black , C u guys later
December 5th, 2011 at 10:15 am
Of course DMAC has turf toe! in other news, water is wet.
December 5th, 2011 at 10:15 am
That wildcard schit is lame….we need a home game here in Oakland…yall who live in the Bay Area know why
December 5th, 2011 at 10:15 am
Trips right, Devonne Bess on Aaron Curry = madness. Bess is one of the best route runners in league, he went 4 yards, slight hesitation and cut across Curry for an untouched TD.
December 5th, 2011 at 10:16 am
On the positive note……..
Looks like CP3 is gaining trust w/ DHB.
Beautiful TD grab from DHB. (even though, it was garbage time)
Def. a confidence booster.
December 5th, 2011 at 10:16 am
978.SilverNBlackPA Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 10:07 am
I really think Denver runs the table, even against New England.
Here’s why: New England’s defense is a joke that Tebow will run all over and the Donk’s defense is good enough to keep it close. Basically exactly what Denver did yesterday.
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Can’t see it. John Fox is the man, but no way they beat New England. Comparing yesterday to what is going to happen when they face Brady and the TD machine Gronkowski is kinda silly. They can win the rest of ‘em though; but I think they’ll lose that game in Buffalo too. Hopefully it’ll be -30 degrees (-50 windchill)!
December 5th, 2011 at 10:16 am
Schilens is similar to Seymour. When Schilens don’t wanna play he limps off the field. When Seymour don’t wanna play he cheap shots someone and gets ejected.
December 5th, 2011 at 10:16 am
991.SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 10:12 am
The excuse machine is in full force here. Beeee esssssss!
Denver is figuring it out with one third the talent (with the injuries)
The raiders mailed it in yesterday. No f’n crying about DMaC or the receivers. The raiders would have lost yesterday AT FULL STRENGTH!
Lame penalties (10 of them) and the same garbage defense with A WEAK middle getting manhandled AGAIN!
Man up or stf down. This team was HANDED the AFC West and Hue believed its win now! Screw next year. With no picks and the team at the salary cap limit (amazing isn’t it) this team won’t change much from its current incarnation.
Only the competition gets tougher.
DMAC averages 9 carries a gm. So stop the whining! SO a B!
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Yep…SnB…the excuse machine is in full effect…people trying to let Hue off the hook for his BS!
December 5th, 2011 at 10:17 am
McFaddens should just tape it tight and get some pain shot and suck it up.
Because the bears scored 3 points on KC! 3! at home!
Tebow in Denver is gonna be crazy crowd with playoffs on horizon. How can they lose with no Forte or Cutler?
December 5th, 2011 at 10:17 am
Seymour can shove his apology up his asz.
December 5th, 2011 at 10:17 am
When it was 27-0 I think that would have been a great time to protect Palmer and get Pryor some game action.
Come on.
December 5th, 2011 at 10:17 am
1001.SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 10:16 am
978.SilverNBlackPA Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 10:07 am
I really think Denver runs the table, even against New England.
Here’s why: New England’s defense is a joke that Tebow will run all over and the Donk’s defense is good enough to keep it close. Basically exactly what Denver did yesterday.
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Can’t see it. John Fox is the man, but no way they beat New England. Comparing yesterday to what is going to happen when they face Brady and the TD machine Gronkowski is kinda silly. They can win the rest of ‘em though; but I think they’ll lose that game in Buffalo too. Hopefully it’ll be -30 degrees (-50 windchill)!
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Damn shame we gotta pray for others to win and dont control our own destiny
December 5th, 2011 at 10:18 am
1006.Dakota Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 10:17 am
When it was 27-0 I think that would have been a great time to protect Palmer and get Pryor some game action.
Come on.
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Look Hue will run this team the way he sees fit……and boy thats not a good thing either
December 5th, 2011 at 10:18 am
985.504 Raider Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 10:10 am
745.fingers Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 7:50 am
Did McFaddens leg fall off…. What the hell is up with his injury?… We were told it was minor….. If he can’t play then IR his A$$….and stop with the nonsense…
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Told you guys this after the KC game. DMAc has Turf Toe.
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I don’t think it’s turf toe; it’s probably something similar to a LisFranc injury but not as severe. No way it’s a grade 1 sprain like they first reported. The middle of his foot must really be screwed….
December 5th, 2011 at 10:19 am
At the very beginning of the post game conference, Jackson said Chaz got hurt, his foot again.
December 5th, 2011 at 10:19 am
1004.raiderinparadise Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 10:17 am
McFaddens should just tape it tight and get some pain shot and suck it up.
Because the bears scored 3 points on KC! 3! at home!
Tebow in Denver is gonna be crazy crowd with playoffs on horizon. How can they lose with no Forte or Cutler?
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Well Denver has been using the run game as their elixir…Bears have a stout D still…we gotta pray Bears get some turnovers and ST play from Hester
December 5th, 2011 at 10:19 am
Ok, Bradshaw returned for the Giants with broken foot quicker than McFadden????????????????????????
December 5th, 2011 at 10:20 am
1007.Method To My Madness Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 10:17 am
1001.SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 10:16 am
978.SilverNBlackPA Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 10:07 am
I really think Denver runs the table, even against New England.
Here’s why: New England’s defense is a joke that Tebow will run all over and the Donk’s defense is good enough to keep it close. Basically exactly what Denver did yesterday.
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Can’t see it. John Fox is the man, but no way they beat New England. Comparing yesterday to what is going to happen when they face Brady and the TD machine Gronkowski is kinda silly. They can win the rest of ‘em though; but I think they’ll lose that game in Buffalo too. Hopefully it’ll be -30 degrees (-50 windchill)!
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Damn shame we gotta pray for others to win and dont control our own destiny
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Agreed…it’s sad…they’ll have us on the tiebreaker if it plays out the way I think it will so we need to cross our fingers and hope for some of that good ole’ Bronco choking coupled with some big time wins on our end. How huge would it be to knock off Green Bay?
December 5th, 2011 at 10:21 am
DMAC doesnt need to play in GB…..Cold ass weather with that foot? No way no how should we even attempt that….now Moore and Ford better get their asses back out there
December 5th, 2011 at 10:22 am
No Forte is REALLY going to hurt the Bears, but if they don’t turn the ball over they can beat the Donks in a close one.
December 5th, 2011 at 10:22 am
Raiders went from +11 about 2 hours ago to +12.5 just now!
December 5th, 2011 at 10:23 am
Is Noel Devine still available? Raiders need depth at RB YESTERDAY. Bush isn’t a 20+ carry kind of RB.
December 5th, 2011 at 10:23 am
B,
wasup wit it mayne
December 5th, 2011 at 10:23 am
1013.SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 10:20 am
1007.Method To My Madness Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 10:17 am
1001.SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 10:16 am
978.SilverNBlackPA Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 10:07 am
I really think Denver runs the table, even against New England.
Here’s why: New England’s defense is a joke that Tebow will run all over and the Donk’s defense is good enough to keep it close. Basically exactly what Denver did yesterday.
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Can’t see it. John Fox is the man, but no way they beat New England. Comparing yesterday to what is going to happen when they face Brady and the TD machine Gronkowski is kinda silly. They can win the rest of ‘em though; but I think they’ll lose that game in Buffalo too. Hopefully it’ll be -30 degrees (-50 windchill)!
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Damn shame we gotta pray for others to win and dont control our own destiny
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Agreed…it’s sad…they’ll have us on the tiebreaker if it plays out the way I think it will so we need to cross our fingers and hope for some of that good ole’ Bronco choking coupled with some big time wins on our end. How huge would it be to knock off Green Bay?
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You have to beat GB….plain and simple….no excuses…i been saying it since the summer….no excuses for not winning the AFC West this year….we got all we need..Hue better not fk this up…..he think he can walk around all smilin and schit in the East Bay and lose? Oh no people over by Jack London will tell him off…people up here aint gonna kiss ur ass if you just failing
December 5th, 2011 at 10:23 am
1018.DMAC Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 10:23 am
B,
wasup wit it mayne
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Pissed
December 5th, 2011 at 10:24 am
1015.DMAC Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 10:22 am
No Forte is REALLY going to hurt the Bears, but if they don’t turn the ball over they can beat the Donks in a close one.
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Would love to see it but can’t see it happening with Marion “I love contact” Barber and Caleb Hanie throwing the ball all over the place except for the right places….Much as I hate to say it, Denver’s D is going hard out there. Their best bet for L’s is that Buffalo game on the road in the middle of winter in cold ass upper state NY, and the Pats game.
December 5th, 2011 at 10:24 am
1017.YoungAmerican Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 10:23 am
Is Noel Devine still available? Raiders need depth at RB YESTERDAY. Bush isn’t a 20+ carry kind of RB.
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Bush isnt a 20 plus carry guy? HAHAHAHAHAHA thats funny
December 5th, 2011 at 10:24 am
I feel at a loss right now about this team because of the way we lost yesterday. We had our Manhood taken away from us yesterday.
If you really break it down, all a team needs to do to beat us is just be very physical with us. It has very little to do with X’s and O’s.
This is how practice goes for our opponents during the week:
Wednesday: Head Coach asks each guy individually “Look me in the eye and promise me you are willing to physically whip the man in front of you this Sunday?”
Player: I am willing.
Head Coach: OK see you Saturday for a walk through.
December 5th, 2011 at 10:25 am
1021.SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 10:24 am
1015.DMAC Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 10:22 am
No Forte is REALLY going to hurt the Bears, but if they don’t turn the ball over they can beat the Donks in a close one.
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Would love to see it but can’t see it happening with Marion “I love contact” Barber and Caleb Hanie throwing the ball all over the place except for the right places….Much as I hate to say it, Denver’s D is going hard out there. Their best bet for L’s is that Buffalo game on the road in the middle of winter in cold ass upper state NY, and the Pats game.
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Bears can get turnovers and good returns from Hester…ya never know what can happen
December 5th, 2011 at 10:27 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 10:24 am
1017.YoungAmerican Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 10:23 am
Is Noel Devine still available? Raiders need depth at RB YESTERDAY. Bush isn’t a 20+ carry kind of RB.
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Bush isnt a 20 plus carry guy? HAHAHAHAHAHA thats funny
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My bad, meant to say 30+. He was on the field for almost every offensive snap three weeks in a row. He’s not built to do that week-in, week-out. Need to give him a break every now and then.
December 5th, 2011 at 10:27 am
1012.raiderinparadise Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 10:19 am
Ok, Bradshaw returned for the Giants with broken foot quicker than McFadden????????????????????????
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True, WTF is wrong with him?!
December 5th, 2011 at 10:28 am
1023.504 Raider Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 10:24 am
I feel at a loss right now about this team because of the way we lost yesterday. We had our Manhood taken away from us yesterday.
If you really break it down, all a team needs to do to beat us is just be very physical with us. It has very little to do with X’s and O’s.
This is how practice goes for our opponents during the week:
Wednesday: Head Coach asks each guy individually “Look me in the eye and promise me you are willing to physically whip the man in front of you this Sunday?”
Player: I am willing.
Head Coach: OK see you Saturday for a walk through.
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And there you have it….I been yelling for most physical play against the tougher teams and we dont do it! I kept tellin yall this and people just shunned the B@uce……….my main issue on the toughness angle is at FB and C…..Carlisle is a bum too but no one is a legit backup at RG
WE do not line up and smack people enough
December 5th, 2011 at 10:28 am
1025.YoungAmerican Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 10:27 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 10:24 am
1017.YoungAmerican Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 10:23 am
Is Noel Devine still available? Raiders need depth at RB YESTERDAY. Bush isn’t a 20+ carry kind of RB.
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Bush isnt a 20 plus carry guy? HAHAHAHAHAHA thats funny
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My bad, meant to say 30+. He was on the field for almost every offensive snap three weeks in a row. He’s not built to do that week-in, week-out. Need to give him a break every now and then.
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Agreed…big time agree here…..DMAC and Jones hurt….also we refuse to have our hammerhead lead blocker on the field after a very good blocking game vs SD….just sad
December 5th, 2011 at 10:29 am
1017.YoungAmerican Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 10:23 am
Is Noel Devine still available? Raiders need depth at RB YESTERDAY. Bush isn’t a 20+ carry kind of RB.
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not true…yea, the carries caught up with him yesterday (not his fault McFadden is still hurt and can’t help him with the load), but it’s not like the line wasn’t getting blown up the entire game. Cats were in the backfield all day….overall poor team effort…no need to start the BS Bush can’t get it done crap again…. I love McFadden as much as the next Raider fan, but regardless of yesterday’s game, we better be happy we got Bush…
December 5th, 2011 at 10:29 am
Fingers said,
“Luvmarv… First, thanks for the info …. But if it’s been 6 + weeks than its more than Just a minor injury…it’s been far more that swelling after a few hours…. Going on 8 weeks now .,.. That’s not at all minor…I’d just like to know his real status ..”
I understand. However, to a podiatrist or an orthopedic surgeon, an injury causing instability (i.e. a break or a severe tear) is much more serious. Thus, while it seems a misnomer to us that it was termed what it was, it’s not to them.
I have wondered, however, if something happened between the initial x-rays and a few weeks later (as in McFadden doing something to make the injury worse like not following doctor’s instructions and walking on it, say) or if there was a hairline break that wasn’t initially spotted on the first set of x-rays, or even if an MRI spotted more serious soft tissue damage than initially was seen.
Usually a doctor can tell you the window during which a broken bone heals; it’s much more difficult to predict the healing of soft tissue damage.
December 5th, 2011 at 10:30 am
Reece should have more carries with Tonga at FB.
Bush is great, until it gets worn out.
Then you have to give it a rest.
December 5th, 2011 at 10:31 am
1024.Method To My Madness Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 10:25 am
1021.SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 10:24 am
1015.DMAC Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 10:22 am
No Forte is REALLY going to hurt the Bears, but if they don’t turn the ball over they can beat the Donks in a close one.
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Would love to see it but can’t see it happening with Marion “I love contact” Barber and Caleb Hanie throwing the ball all over the place except for the right places….Much as I hate to say it, Denver’s D is going hard out there. Their best bet for L’s is that Buffalo game on the road in the middle of winter in cold ass upper state NY, and the Pats game.
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Bears can get turnovers and good returns from Hester…ya never know what can happen
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I’ll be cheering for it.
December 5th, 2011 at 10:31 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 10:28 am
1025.YoungAmerican Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 10:27 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 10:24 am
1017.YoungAmerican Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 10:23 am
Is Noel Devine still available? Raiders need depth at RB YESTERDAY. Bush isn’t a 20+ carry kind of RB.
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Bush isnt a 20 plus carry guy? HAHAHAHAHAHA thats funny
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My bad, meant to say 30+. He was on the field for almost every offensive snap three weeks in a row. He’s not built to do that week-in, week-out. Need to give him a break every now and then.
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Agreed…big time agree here…..DMAC and Jones hurt….also we refuse to have our hammerhead lead blocker on the field after a very good blocking game vs SD….just sad
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Here, we’re finally in agreement re: Tonga. Pass protection and run blocking both breaking down, TEs dropping balls and WRs hurt… Yesterday was time to let Tonga do the blocking and move Reece around at WR/TE. Offense didn’t adjust until garbage time.
December 5th, 2011 at 10:32 am
I have no idea. I remember when Bradshaw broke his foot and wanted ot play the next week, but the team shut him down for 3 weeks. and he played yesterday? Mcfadden isnt even practicing?
December 5th, 2011 at 10:32 am
Reece looked good running the ball last week, why the fvck wasn’t he involved yesterday?? And ya, where was Tonga??
December 5th, 2011 at 10:32 am
I think we should bring in rex Ryan to observe the feet of our players. Cuz something is f’d up.
December 5th, 2011 at 10:33 am
B,
2 be honest w/ you, I think Tonga would of def. help in the run game, but we still would of lost that one.
Got our azzes whooped in the trenches.
December 5th, 2011 at 10:34 am
“McFaddens should just tape it tight and get some pain shot and suck it up.”
This is a sure way to a several broken bones in the foot, bones that will probably never heal properly for a man who makes his living running. If you can’t feel your foot, you can’t know when it’s hurting. Pain is our only warning that something is wrong. To ignore it is folly.; to turn off the sensation of pain in a weight-bearing entity is a quick way to crippling someone for life.
December 5th, 2011 at 10:35 am
Lot of Posts – many good – many silly
BOTTOM LINE
you want to win the division?
Beat Green Bay and it’s ours
It’s that simple
December 5th, 2011 at 10:36 am
CorkOnTheNFL Steve Corkran
Packers eighth team to win 18 straight games. The Dolphins (1972-73) were one of the seven others. Raiders ended that streak; play Packers.
December 5th, 2011 at 10:37 am
luvmarvhub Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 10:34 am
“McFaddens should just tape it tight and get some pain shot and suck it up.”
This is a sure way to a several broken bones in the foot, bones that will probably never heal properly for a man who makes his living running. If you can’t feel your foot, you can’t know when it’s hurting. Pain is our only warning that something is wrong. To ignore it is folly.; to turn off the sensation of pain in a weight-bearing entity is a quick way to crippling someone for life.
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then IR him now.
December 5th, 2011 at 10:38 am
The team has gone far as it can without out horses
(DMAC,JFord,DMoore) we need you guys back NOW!!!
They out toughed us yesterday oline an dline
got over powered.
Gotta get ready for GB. Put this one behind us.
December 5th, 2011 at 10:39 am
1037.DMAC Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 10:33 am
B,
2 be honest w/ you, I think Tonga would of def. help in the run game, but we still would of lost that one.
Got our azzes whooped in the trenches.
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Imagine that first half having tonga in a being able to get more yards in run game….changes everything!
December 5th, 2011 at 10:39 am
raiderinparadise Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 10:37 am
luvmarvhub Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 10:34 am
“McFaddens should just tape it tight and get some pain shot and suck it up.”
This is a sure way to a several broken bones in the foot, bones that will probably never heal properly for a man who makes his living running. If you can’t feel your foot, you can’t know when it’s hurting. Pain is our only warning that something is wrong. To ignore it is folly.; to turn off the sensation of pain in a weight-bearing entity is a quick way to crippling someone for life.
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then IR him now.
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Bingo.
December 5th, 2011 at 10:39 am
So are we we now 1 – 9 on eastern games the last few years?
December 5th, 2011 at 10:39 am
1039.RaiderAD Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 10:35 am
Lot of Posts – many good – many silly
BOTTOM LINE
you want to win the division?
Beat Green Bay and it’s ours
It’s that simple
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Thats right!
December 5th, 2011 at 10:40 am
DMAC Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 10:39 am
So are we we now 1 – 9 on eastern games the last few years?
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Yup. Not bad, eh?
December 5th, 2011 at 10:41 am
Bills fans would look at that 1-9 mark and call the 1 win “the winning season.”
Like “the Super Bowl years.”
December 5th, 2011 at 10:42 am
All you semi pros…refer to SD game again…see why Tonga is needed….its December and you need tough guy out there
December 5th, 2011 at 10:43 am
How about we fix the Fukin oline…
December 5th, 2011 at 10:45 am
thec…get satele out and start same oline from SD game
December 5th, 2011 at 10:45 am
I’m still a Hue believer, but he didn’t have the team ready to play yesterday.
Period!
Got out coached by Soprano (or whatever dudes name is)
December 5th, 2011 at 10:45 am
IR mcfadden, he cant win games for us in a boot.
Broncos remaining schedule is too easy.
You cant say your “saving” McFadden for playoffs, when imo we will have a hard time to even pull that off.
December 5th, 2011 at 10:45 am
17 sacs in 3 games….FIX IT
December 5th, 2011 at 10:46 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 10:45 am
thec…get satele out and start same oline from SD game
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Wiz 2.0, and Heyer…
December 5th, 2011 at 10:46 am
Veldheer – Heyer – Wiz – Carlisle – Barnes looked alright, but Barnes is still a glaring weakness and Barksdale hasn’t looked like he’s ready to take a starting spot yet.
December 5th, 2011 at 10:47 am
Keep Palmer safe damit….
December 5th, 2011 at 10:47 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 10:42 am
All you semi pros…refer to SD game again…see why Tonga is needed….its December and you need tough guy out there
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Hue wont do so. I like reece better but when you playa physical team, you have ot match that or combat it and tonga should been in there.
December 5th, 2011 at 10:47 am
We definately needed tonga out there. Bush an Reece CANT block
been sayin this B@uce all along. Now we all saw it yesterday. But the OLine looked really slow an overpowered. Hopefully we put tonga in there against GB there gonna need him in there. Their LB’s blitz a lot.
December 5th, 2011 at 10:49 am
1056.YoungAmerican Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 10:46 am
Veldheer – Heyer – Wiz – Carlisle – Barnes looked alright, but Barnes is still a glaring weakness and Barksdale hasn’t looked like he’s ready to take a starting spot yet.
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Agreed…WTF is up with Bruce Campbell?? If he isn’t ready to step in by the end of the year; his a$$ needs to be cut, straight up! The nature of the beast that is the long season is wearing down on Barnes. He’ll continue to look more and more like a liability on that right edge.
December 5th, 2011 at 10:49 am
Method To My Madness Says:
Damn shame we gotta pray for others to win and dont control our own destiny
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That’s the real killer of it all. In three hours time, they went from being in control of their destiny to the what-if/math game.
December 5th, 2011 at 10:49 am
Hopefully Brett Favre suits up for the Bears this Sunday vs Denver.
December 5th, 2011 at 10:50 am
It’s Hanie the rest of the way, Lovie just said so.
December 5th, 2011 at 10:51 am
1058.raiderinparadise Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 10:47 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 10:42 am
All you semi pros…refer to SD game again…see why Tonga is needed….its December and you need tough guy out there
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Hue wont do so. I like reece better but when you playa physical team, you have ot match that or combat it and tonga should been in there.
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you cant like reeece better as a lead blocker..otherwise you are lying
December 5th, 2011 at 10:51 am
r8dercain Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 10:47 am
We definately needed tonga out there. Bush an Reece CANT block
been sayin this B@uce all along. Now we all saw it yesterday. But the OLine looked really slow an overpowered. Hopefully we put tonga in there against GB there gonna need him in there. Their LB’s blitz a lot.
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Truth…Fins were coming right up the middle at will
December 5th, 2011 at 10:52 am
1059.r8dercain Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 10:47 am
We definately needed tonga out there. Bush an Reece CANT block
been sayin this B@uce all along. Now we all saw it yesterday. But the OLine looked really slow an overpowered. Hopefully we put tonga in there against GB there gonna need him in there. Their LB’s blitz a lot.
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Hue ego too big man
December 5th, 2011 at 10:53 am
Agreed…WTF is up with Bruce Campbell?? If he isn’t ready to step in by the end of the year; his a$$ needs to be cut, straight up!
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He got injured and fell behind Hue says one he gets an opportunity he will be good, and play a long time in the league…
December 5th, 2011 at 10:53 am
Murphy is done, I dont want to see hiz lame a$$ again when Moore and Ford come back.
The PLAYOFFS have officially started and next week’s game is a must win, win or go home game. I dont care if Dmac, Ford, Moore are still hurt, if they still have limbs they better play. All games are playoff games starting in GB on sunday. Bush is finally starting to get worn out and the o line got completely manhandled, the ultra conservative play calling by Hue only exacerbated matters. No hurry up offense until it was 34-0…pathetic play calling to say the least.
December 5th, 2011 at 10:53 am
1061.RaidingTexas Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 10:49 am
Method To My Madness Says:
Damn shame we gotta pray for others to win and dont control our own destiny
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That’s the real killer of it all. In three hours time, they went from being in control of their destiny to the what-if/math game.
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As much as I hate to even bring it up; it’s still good info to know in case we do slide a little more; we need to be cheering against the Titans and Bengals these last four weeks too. There’s an outside shot of that 2nd wild card and we own the tie-breaker over the Jets. Steelers/Ravens will get one of those wild cards, but the other one will be up for grabs between us, the Titans, Bengals, and the Jets. Everyone else is pretty much out of it barring one of those 7 loss teams wins out…
December 5th, 2011 at 10:53 am
Very simple question…0-9 on games coming out of the bye week in the last 9 years and 1-9 on the last 10 east coast trips….Pattern…..Coaching…Preparation…..????
December 5th, 2011 at 10:54 am
Barnes sucks man…fk him
December 5th, 2011 at 10:55 am
Yep rite up the middle. I saw bush either miss or chip or get ran over. Reece too.
Is tonga hurt?
December 5th, 2011 at 10:55 am
Oline fell off
Play calling fell off
D <—- was never on point
Bresh <—–See above
Money ball guys <—-AWOL
December 5th, 2011 at 10:55 am
boss01 Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 10:53 am
Murphy is done, I dont want to see hiz lame a$$ again when Moore and Ford come back.
The PLAYOFFS have officially started and next week’s game is a must win, win or go home game. I dont care if Dmac, Ford, Moore are still hurt, if they still have limbs they better play. All games are playoff games starting in GB on sunday. Bush is finally starting to get worn out and the o line got completely manhandled, the ultra conservative play calling by Hue only exacerbated matters. No hurry up offense until it was 34-0…pathetic play calling to say the least.
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Maybe it’s not such a bad thing the margin for error is razor thin.
Playoffs started today.
December 5th, 2011 at 10:55 am
1067.Thec07 Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 10:53 am
Agreed…WTF is up with Bruce Campbell?? If he isn’t ready to step in by the end of the year; his a$$ needs to be cut, straight up!
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He got injured and fell behind Hue says one he gets an opportunity he will be good, and play a long time in the league…
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Carlisle, Satele and Barnes have been showing their true colors lately; so that opportunity should’ve been kicking his door down!
December 5th, 2011 at 10:55 am
Green Bay and Detroit are going to plow these no heart hot mess of a dysfunctional bunch of sorry mfkrs.
Hue hows that building a bully bs treating you?
Bresnehan comes back to the Raids next year expect more of the same. The same? Yea near last in the league stopping the run, same old, same old.
DMac your foot makes you worthless, will you ever play out a season?
The entire D needs blowing up, absolute hot garbage.
December 5th, 2011 at 10:55 am
Good morning nation!
I normally say that yesterday was a wasted 3 hours of my life, but actually it wasn’t! I hope Hue is looking at this time and time again! It shwed who we are at that point…are we ready for the playoffs? Our O Line suddenly looked avaerage! Tonga not activated yesterday? Whatever the deal was, we need it fixed! Green Bay came off of their biggest test yesterday…although I still believe we can beat them…we have a LOT of work to do!
December 5th, 2011 at 10:56 am
No I like Reece better just on the field. He needs ot be out there. Un-deniable talent and ability. He blocks better for McFadden on outside runs becuase he can use his speed to get out in front of mcfadden. but tonga and bush are a match made in heaven.
I think Hue normally after our bad, bad losses has gone back to the power run game. hopefully he does that against GB.
December 5th, 2011 at 10:56 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 10:54 am
Barnes sucks man…fk him
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truth his as shouls be on a greyhound bus trying to get back to the town….fk him
December 5th, 2011 at 10:56 am
Murphy is done, I dont want to see hiz lame a$$ again when Moore and Ford come back.
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Louis is a bum now
December 5th, 2011 at 10:58 am
Ya barnes had a real f’kd up day at the office. Been pretty much solid tho
hasn’t Bern great. But solid.
December 5th, 2011 at 10:58 am
28th against the run…enough said…Mark Davis, take notice and start cleaning house on D, staring with getting rid of the worst DC in football TODAY and promote Rod Woodson as interim DC already…Bring in Del Rio in the offseason, the time is NOW before its too late.
December 5th, 2011 at 10:59 am
1082.boss01 Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 10:58 am
28th against the run…enough said…Mark Davis, take notice and start cleaning house on D, staring with getting rid of the worst DC in football TODAY and promote Rod Woodson as interim DC already…Bring in Del Rio in the offseason, the time is NOW before its too late.
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lol maybe so
December 5th, 2011 at 10:59 am
Didn’t Louis make some catches yesterday? I could be wrong, but…dam…props to DHB for that one handed catch while being totally covered yesterday in the end zone!
December 5th, 2011 at 11:01 am
DHB’s route running still leaves a little to be desired, but have to love his all-out effort on every single play.
December 5th, 2011 at 11:02 am
fk barnes…he is now banes, as he is a bane to our oline’s existence…..
So fk banes…
December 5th, 2011 at 11:03 am
I would love Jack Del Rio. He knows how to run a 4-3 too. That way we don’t have a lag in implementing a 3-4 and drafting for it. Del Rio would hit the ground moving fast to help the D. PLus he a USC guy, he would love to come home back west with a job.
December 5th, 2011 at 11:03 am
So are we we now 1 – 9 on eastern games the last few years?
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Props to Bruce for banging out our only victory!!!!
December 5th, 2011 at 11:04 am
I sensed a little chemistry between Palmer and DHB + Chaz…problem is the home run was missing from the equation…that was Murphy’s job sunday and he was a no show once again…this is where Ford and Moore come in and they better be ready next week and Louis should ride the pine from here on out.
December 5th, 2011 at 11:04 am
DHB is all good with me….he playing his heart out
December 5th, 2011 at 11:04 am
1088.Just Fire Baby Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 11:03 am
So are we we now 1 – 9 on eastern games the last few years?
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Props to Bruce for banging out our only victory!!!!
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JC vs Houston this year…stop promoting phaggot grads
December 5th, 2011 at 11:05 am
Houston ain’t in the East coast time zone, or else our victories in KC would be included.
December 5th, 2011 at 11:06 am
raiderinparadise Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 11:03 am
I would love Jack Del Rio. He knows how to run a 4-3 too. That way we don’t have a lag in implementing a 3-4 and drafting for it. Del Rio would hit the ground moving fast to help the D. PLus he a USC guy, he would love to come home back west with a job.
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I would take jake in a minute
December 5th, 2011 at 11:07 am
if McClain had DHB mentality he would be a great player. But he has pea-sized testicals.
December 5th, 2011 at 11:07 am
Who would have thought DHB would play with the most passion and production than just about anybody else on the roster?
December 5th, 2011 at 11:08 am
My ideal scenario is reuniting Steve Spagnuolo and Mike Waufle.
December 5th, 2011 at 11:08 am
DHB was ballin yesterday, had like 4 catches taken away from penalties last two weeks, including one on the boneheaded time out by Hue
December 5th, 2011 at 11:09 am
Spags and Del Rio will both be out of jobs at the end of the year; so it’s very possible…
December 5th, 2011 at 11:09 am
Luvmarv… I understand your post… And once again… Thanks for your input … But what I’m saying is I’d like someone from the Raiders to tell us what’s up. With McFaddens foot…. You and I both are just speculating …. It’s going on 8 weeks now….counting the Bye week and we still don’t know McFaddens status…. I want to know if he’s playing in Greenbay or st home aginst the lions….if not he should be IR’d , shut down ….we were only told minor….again, 8 weeks is way more than minor ….McFadden will have missed half the season if he doesn’t play in Greenbay … That’s huge ..
December 5th, 2011 at 11:11 am
I can’t remember the Raiders ever being so ravaged by injuries like this season….even when we Were bottom feeding and the joke of the NFL were we ever like this…. Palmer would have chemistry with all the receivers… the problem is.. we can’t stay healthy… I understand injuries are part of the NFL but this is ridiculous. .. .. I’m also convinced that McFadden had something much worse than a sprained foot… if we don’t win 3/4 ..were out of this for sure…
December 5th, 2011 at 11:11 am
Yeah, something has to be said by the guts of this team ….. the team farted in an elevator yesterday.
The injury report will be key, or else its Tebow in the playoffs.
December 5th, 2011 at 11:11 am
Woodson got a concussion on that play he got trucked by Bradshaw…highly unlikely he plays this week…
December 5th, 2011 at 11:11 am
On the positive side (if any)
Looks like CP3 has gain the trust of DHB.
(DHB) made some nice catches yesterday and the TD grab was a thing of beauty even though it was garbage time.
Kid is full of confidence.
December 5th, 2011 at 11:12 am
1092.Just Fire Baby Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 11:05 am
Houston ain’t in the East coast time zone, or else our victories in KC would be included.
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10am game…same schit
December 5th, 2011 at 11:13 am
starting at 10am eastern is always rough schit..fk grad and all grad fans
December 5th, 2011 at 11:13 am
The fact that CJ got some run under his belt yesterday is big, he’ll step up in the big game Sunday and our lb’s will play to their potential. Ford Moore and DMAC need to practice fully as of Wed the playoffs start Sunday muthafu#kas cuz if you aint ready you damn sure better believe Tebow is ready
December 5th, 2011 at 11:13 am
fk barnes…he is now banes, as he is a bane to our oline’s existence…..
So fk banes…
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Don’t understand the hate, Barnes is who he is, not an elite lineman. Barnes was the lineman who tested FA and NO BODY WANTED TO SIGN HIM to be a starting tackle! It is like the hate people had for Barry Simms, not his fault he is the best of the worst.
December 5th, 2011 at 11:13 am
murphy has fallen off.
He should have his game legs…
December 5th, 2011 at 11:14 am
I actually thought Romac played a nice game yesterday.
December 5th, 2011 at 11:15 am
CP losing my trust..aint alot there to begin with
December 5th, 2011 at 11:15 am
Don’t understand the hate, Barnes is who he is, not an elite lineman. Barnes was the lineman who tested FA and NO BODY WANTED TO SIGN HIM to be a starting tackle! It is like the hate people had for Barry Simms, not his fault he is the best of the worst.
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banes cost us money yesterday…fk him…
December 5th, 2011 at 11:15 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 11:13 am
starting at 10am eastern is always rough schit..fk grad and all grad fans
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Grad was important in cleaning up the mess that was JaMarcus Russell.
He bridged a gap, much like Cable.
December 5th, 2011 at 11:15 am
The material cougar performing at halftime Superbowl show.. LOL…. I guess next season the halftime show will go young with Cher! !! .. Jim Rome cracks me up..
December 5th, 2011 at 11:15 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 11:15 am
CP losing my trust..aint alot there to begin with
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if you think JC is better you’re wrong flat out
December 5th, 2011 at 11:16 am
Dutch…smh….you have to produce…fk where u were signed or not
December 5th, 2011 at 11:16 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 11:15 am
CP losing my trust..aint alot there to begin with
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O-line has been crappy the last few games.
We all know he isn’t mobile
+ his fav. targets have been missing
December 5th, 2011 at 11:17 am
Boss had probably his worst game as a Raider…
There is a night and day difference when Romac is not a MLB
I still Don’t know why Hue Jax does not relieve Bush on atleast one play, give the ball to Cartwright or Reese for a couple of plays, Bush is our only legit back right now he can’t afford to go down
On the other hand, we are decimated by injuries and the refs ticky-tacked us; Seymore should have got flagged but not ejected and the Routt PI call ws BS
December 5th, 2011 at 11:18 am
West Coast teams are at a complete disadvantage vs east coast teams because of this 10 am crap…when east coast teams travel cross country they actually gain 3 hours and the game starts later rather than earlier. This is complete BS, the NFL needs to do something about this to level the playing field….No more 10 am games damn it!
December 5th, 2011 at 11:18 am
MistaBrown Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 8:45 am
Everybody is playing hurt 12 weeks into the season.
Jill when did you start watching football ?
Fk Seymour, he is a worthless slob.
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As usual you are confused. Seymour is 5 time All Pro. It’s YOU that’s the worthless slob. And that ejection WAS BS. Richie Icognito is widely recognized as one if not THE dirtiest player in the league. I for one, was glad Sey punched him in the grill. Sey was one of the few players showing some spark out there.
December 5th, 2011 at 11:19 am
1114.inonewordraider Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 11:15 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 11:15 am
CP losing my trust..aint alot there to begin with
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if you think JC is better you’re wrong flat out
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its a wash with those two…but i bet our record is 9-3 with jc if he doesnt get hurt
December 5th, 2011 at 11:19 am
I love MM, but the dude looks lost out there many times. Needs to hit the film room or something?
December 5th, 2011 at 11:19 am
You have to be nuts to put this loss on Palmer. .. maybe having to run for his life back there had somethibg to do with his performance. … some people have to check themselves. .. it was a total team loss… period! !
December 5th, 2011 at 11:20 am
iz it me or does Micheal Bush wiffs more than he actually connects with the rusher
dats where we miss dmc
he wld crush blitzers
December 5th, 2011 at 11:20 am
1109.DMAC Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 11:14 am
I actually thought Romac played a nice game yesterday.
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True! I could not understand why Curry was at MLB, get burnt, when Romac was on the sideline, the D played alot better with Romac in MLB
December 5th, 2011 at 11:20 am
JDJohnDickinson John Dickinson
#Raiders LB Rolando McClain was in the locker room this morning but declined to speak w/reporters when asked. @957thegame
2 minutes ago
December 5th, 2011 at 11:20 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 11:19 am
1114.inonewordraider Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 11:15 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 11:15 am
CP losing my trust..aint alot there to begin with
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if you think JC is better you’re wrong flat out
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its a wash with those two…but i bet our record is 9-3 with jc if he doesnt get hurt
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no way JC continues to win with the playmakers dropping like flies. Palmer is better than JC by a mile. and I liked JC!
December 5th, 2011 at 11:21 am
Oh no… here we go again with the qb bull sh!t….LOL.. where’s debo and misty eyes??? .. Lmao. .
December 5th, 2011 at 11:21 am
Brown,
hit us w/ the obvious…
December 5th, 2011 at 11:22 am
No excuses….i need wins….no excuses for cp and the injuries…you are paid to do a job..and thats fkin win!
December 5th, 2011 at 11:22 am
Getting Palmer was necessary once Campbell went down. The Raiders had no other option if they wanted to be competitive this season.
Personally, I would have been happy to roll with Campbell all season had he not broken his collarbone. Raiders could have found a QB in the first round of the draft. Plenty of options for teams in need of a franchise guy. Oh well. It is what it is.
December 5th, 2011 at 11:22 am
CorkOnTheNFL Steve Corkran
#Raiders running back Taiwan Jones said he tested at 75 percent to 80 percent in agility drills today. Might practice Wednesday, play Sun.
2 minutes ago
December 5th, 2011 at 11:23 am
Even more puzzling why we cut Hagan and kept Chaz and Murphy. I would have cut Murphs sorry ass alligator arms in a heartbeat and Chaz just as fast.
WTF was HUE doing cutting Hagan for Murph or Chaz is beyond me.
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raiderinparadise Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 10:11 am
anyone else notice that Schilens didn’t finish the game and limped off.
glass schilens at it again.
December 5th, 2011 at 11:23 am
I’m so tired of players protecting their $$$$$, instead of lining up on Sundays and playing with a little pain. Football has changed from playing to win to not playing to protect their investment…..
December 5th, 2011 at 11:23 am
CP actually showed some elusiveness in the pocket yesterday which surprised the hell out of me…still think he needs to run out of the pocket at times and create more opportunities when the plays dont develop..that part is still missing from his game. He needs to watch film on Tebow to see how its done.
December 5th, 2011 at 11:23 am
JDJohnDickinson John Dickinson
#Raiders also appeared to be working out a couple of linebackers on practice field w/coaches looking on @957thegame
1 minute ago
December 5th, 2011 at 11:23 am
1126.Dstomp Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 11:20 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 11:19 am
1114.inonewordraider Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 11:15 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 11:15 am
CP losing my trust..aint alot there to begin with
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if you think JC is better you’re wrong flat out
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its a wash with those two…but i bet our record is 9-3 with jc if he doesnt get hurt
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no way JC continues to win with the playmakers dropping like flies. Palmer is better than JC by a mile. and I liked JC!
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Doubt that highly….they are a wash in 2011
December 5th, 2011 at 11:23 am
Is DVD likely to come back this week? We’ll need all the DBs we can bring for this trip.
December 5th, 2011 at 11:24 am
In case you havn’t noticed…this is a certified nut house and MR’s queer lover KK hasn’t even stumbled in here yet!
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ghostraiders Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 11:19 am
You have to be nuts to put this loss on Palmer
December 5th, 2011 at 11:25 am
1053.DMAC Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 10:45 am
I’m still a Hue believer, but he didn’t have the team ready to play yesterday.
Period!
Got out coached by Soprano (or whatever dudes name is)
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Im so fvckin sick of hearing how its Hues fault these guys didn’t come to play. Thats bullsh1t. These are grown ass men who get paid to play the fvcking game. Its on nobody but their own sorry asses for not getting up for the game. There are 46 guys who took the field yesterday and should be ashamed of themselves for playing like that.
If I come to work and mail it in by 10am and have a sh1tty day, no one blames my boss. Its on me. Its on the players. We didn’t get out coached, we got out worked. Players are the only ones responsible for that.
December 5th, 2011 at 11:25 am
Tired of hearing all the Tebow mania, you’ve been rescued; Favre is interested in playing for Chicago.
December 5th, 2011 at 11:26 am
Boss.. you got to be kidding… Palmer has to watch tebow to see how its done”…. please tell me your Sullivan44..!!.. that’s your only excuse for such a moronic comment bro..
December 5th, 2011 at 11:26 am
Peymour Bish said Lechler isn’t a “placement” kicker yet he dropped another on near the goal line this week, and 2 last week!
Amazing! I wonder how this is happening?
Peymour Bish, which alias are you on right now?
December 5th, 2011 at 11:26 am
Fingers said,
“Luvmarv… I understand your post… And once again… Thanks for your input … But what I’m saying is I’d like someone from the Raiders to tell us what’s up.”
I agree with you totally. I don’t understand why Al Davis thought his ticky tacky school girls’ “mystery” about injuries was any advantage to him in the modern football era. All it serves to do is alienate a fan base, a base the Raiders have been having trouble rebuilding since they left for LA.
December 5th, 2011 at 11:27 am
I hope nobody sneaked out of the Hotel to do some partying in South Beach….they certainly played as if they were at Club Mansion till 4 am
December 5th, 2011 at 11:27 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 11:15 am
CP losing my trust..aint alot there to begin with
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OLine been giving up booty. Plus we need our horses back NOW
December 5th, 2011 at 11:27 am
bcz24 Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 11:25 am
1053.DMAC Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 10:45 am
I’m still a Hue believer, but he didn’t have the team ready to play yesterday.
Period!
Got out coached by Soprano (or whatever dudes name is)
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Im so fvckin sick of hearing how its Hues fault these guys didn’t come to play. Thats bullsh1t. These are grown ass men who get paid to play the fvcking game. Its on nobody but their own sorry asses for not getting up for the game. There are 46 guys who took the field yesterday and should be ashamed of themselves for playing like that.
If I come to work and mail it in by 10am and have a sh1tty day, no one blames my boss. Its on me. Its on the players. We didn’t get out coached, we got out worked. Players are the only ones responsible for that.
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Its called preparation.
Sorry, but I just dont agree w/ you.
December 5th, 2011 at 11:27 am
1092-Houston isn’t in the eastern time zone but their games start at 10:00am pst.
December 5th, 2011 at 11:29 am
1147.lefty12 Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 11:27 am
1092-Houston isn’t in the eastern time zone but their games start at 10:00am pst.
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point is…still early as schit and is a disadvantage for us
December 5th, 2011 at 11:29 am
True! I could not understand why Curry was at MLB, get burnt, when Romac was on the sideline, the D played alot better with Romac in MLB
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that was Bresh contigency plan as romac was not available because he was not available during practice, and was possible not going to play.
Curry says that he only likes to run and hit. he is awful in coverage, and proved in seattle that he was not cerebral enough to play Mike…
Dumb A$$ move putting him there, and as I predicted last week was an unmitigate disaster….
December 5th, 2011 at 11:30 am
ghostraiders Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 11:26 am
Boss.. you got to be kidding… Palmer has to watch tebow to see how its done”…. please tell me your Sullivan44..!!.. that’s your only excuse for such a moronic comment bro..
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settle down kid, only trying to point out that he needs to add scrambling ability to his game especially against a pash rush like Mia, and yes Tebow’s only ability is to scramble out of the pocket and either run or find open receivers on broken plays..he even stiff armed a dude before he threw a td pass yesterday
December 5th, 2011 at 11:30 am
Raider in Paradise said about McFadden
“the ir him now.”
The only logical conclusion at this point is that Hue feels that if he gets McF back for the stretch run, great; if not, he figures he might get him back in the playoffs. It’s logical to assume that Hue feels even having him available for one game (our last, whether our last regular season game or our last playoff game should we make the playoffs) is reason enough not to IR him.
December 5th, 2011 at 11:30 am
MistaBrown Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 11:23 am
Even more puzzling why we cut Hagan and kept Chaz and Murphy.
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Because Shilens and Murphy are better than Hagan that’s why. You dummass.
December 5th, 2011 at 11:31 am
Curry wasn’t at MLB, though. He was just one of the two LBs on the field in a nickel formation.
December 5th, 2011 at 11:31 am
boss01 Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 11:27 am
I hope nobody sneaked out of the Hotel to do some partying in South Beach….they certainly played as if they were at Club Mansion till 4 am
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hahahahahaha….
December 5th, 2011 at 11:31 am
Curry is so athletic I wonder why it is that no coach has been able to teach him to cover better than he does.
I mean, react to a few reads, then go. If he weren’t so fast and so athletic, I wouldn’t say that, but he is.
December 5th, 2011 at 11:32 am
You are a dumb POS for thinking this, and a troll.
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Seymour Bush Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 11:30 am
Because Shilens and Murphy are better than Hagan that’s why. You dummass.
December 5th, 2011 at 11:32 am
MistaBrown Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 11:26 am
Peymour Bish said Lechler isn’t a “placement” kicker yet he dropped another on near the goal line this week, and 2 last week!
Amazing! I wonder how this is happening?
Peymour Bish, which alias are you on right now?
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Still mumbling incoherently Jamista? You should change your handle to jamista the blog turd. It just fits so well.
December 5th, 2011 at 11:33 am
Palmer did not lose yesterday’s game… It was lost on the lines….our Oline had its a$$ kicked… Our Dline got its a$$ kicked…… When that happens everything else goes down with it…the Fins were stronger… We were mugged , plain and simple..
December 5th, 2011 at 11:33 am
Palmer isnt light years better than JC…he is better but i dont think he is leaps & bounds ahead of him
they both the same on da underneath & intermediate throws
Palmer is better on the deep throws
but JC is better at getting out of danger and making things happen
Palmer is a target back there…rarely does he leave his mark
but its only a Reallionaire’s opinion
December 5th, 2011 at 11:33 am
Peymour I knew you were here trolling.
How about Lechler…still not a “placement” kicker, right genius?
December 5th, 2011 at 11:34 am
MistaBrown Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 11:32 am
You are a dumb POS for thinking this, and a troll.
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So I guess you are a better personnel guy than Hue and Al Saunders? Or are you just an imbecile that’s delusional? Seems the latter to me.
December 5th, 2011 at 11:34 am
I have been saying it for 10 days now…..DMAC, JFORD, DMOORE were all healthy enough to play yesterday….Considering the brewing firestorm in Oakland, do you think maybe we could get these worthless bay area writers to ask some tough questions and get some accurate answers….Some answers other than sound bites from Huellywood…Stir the POT, NOW…..!!!!!!
December 5th, 2011 at 11:34 am
17 sacs in 3 games…what is it going to take to fix???
We have the soulution, you selected Wiz 2.0 to start.
Put him in the game now…
December 5th, 2011 at 11:35 am
Brilliant take Peymour….
“Anybody with half a brain can see Lechler isn’t a “placement” kicker”
lmao
December 5th, 2011 at 11:35 am
Reasons we lost:
total rush yards- 46
Reggie Bush rush yards- 100 yards
Thomas rush yards- 73
Matt Moore rush yards- 22
Matt Moore had all day, got sacked 1nce
nobody on d was able to cover anybody on O
Louis “Houdini” Murphy dissapeared once again
December 5th, 2011 at 11:36 am
Seymour Bush Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 11:30 am
Because Shilens and Murphy are better than Hagan that’s why. You dummass.
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No way glenn….no way…murphy has done what? schilens isnt reliable…stop it now
December 5th, 2011 at 11:36 am
luvmarvhub Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 11:31 am
Curry is so athletic I wonder why it is that no coach has been able to teach him to cover better than he does.
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On the early TD to Bess, you can’t have a 6′3″ 250 lb LB covering a 5′9″ 185 lb receiver. That is not Curry’s fault there.
December 5th, 2011 at 11:36 am
Palmer needs the run game back.
Packer gave up lots of deep throws.
If moore and ford back, watch out.
December 5th, 2011 at 11:37 am
How many receptions has Hagan had since he left here? You guys are not serious.
December 5th, 2011 at 11:37 am
Palmer has a quicker release and senses pressure better than JC, but JC is far more mobile.
Palmer is also more accurate, but also takes way more chances than JC, and as a byproduct turns the ball over more.
Overall Palmer is a better player. May not be a Top 5 QB, though. Comparable to Cutler or Eli Manning. A guy who is more than capable of getting it done, but occasionally falls short if he has to carry an entire team on his back when nothing is going right.
December 5th, 2011 at 11:37 am
Its called preparation.
Sorry, but I just dont agree w/ you.
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so you think Hue prepares the team differently for weeks we lose than weeks we win? Thats ridiculous. The players did not come to play yesterday, and they mailed it in at halftime
December 5th, 2011 at 11:37 am
Hue was quoted last week saying he would love to be part of a laugh-er, a good ole fashioned, high scoring beat down of the opponent, well get ready you bully building garden gnome the laugh-er is acomin’ innit?
Green bay is going to have a freaking laugh-er when they play the Raids, if the same hot mess shows up like they did this last Sunday.
December 5th, 2011 at 11:38 am
1159.REALLIONAIREB Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 11:33 am
Palmer isnt light years better than JC…he is better but i dont think he is leaps & bounds ahead of him
they both the same on da underneath & intermediate throws
Palmer is better on the deep throws
but JC is better at getting out of danger and making things happen
Palmer is a target back there…rarely does he leave his mark
but its only a Reallionaire’s opinion
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its a wash
December 5th, 2011 at 11:38 am
Peymour, you can talk in circles all you want but everybody here saw you say Lechler isnt a placement kicker.
By the way….one of your dumbest post of all time and thats saying alot because you have many.
Go back to trolling we are done.
December 5th, 2011 at 11:38 am
SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:
As much as I hate to even bring it up; it’s still good info to know in case we do slide a little more; we need to be cheering against the Titans and Bengals these last four weeks too. There’s an outside shot of that 2nd wild card and we own the tie-breaker over the Jets. Steelers/Ravens will get one of those wild cards, but the other one will be up for grabs between us, the Titans, Bengals, and the Jets. Everyone else is pretty much out of it barring one of those 7 loss teams wins out…
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Yeah, definitely. I think I said it earlier – we really gotta pull for Houston when they play Cincy and Tennessee. Baltimore should be playing hard in week 17 vs Cincy to get top seed in the AFC.
December 5th, 2011 at 11:38 am
MistaBrown Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 11:35 am
Brilliant take Peymour….
“Anybody with half a brain can see Lechler isn’t a “placement” kicker”
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Is this imbecile just chattering incoherently to himself?? “Obliviously”. haha.
December 5th, 2011 at 11:39 am
We currently do not match up well with teams that are physical up front on defense. It’s no secret, if you stop our run you stop our offense. Luckily there are no other physical teams left on our schedule.
We actually match up well with the Packers it’s just a matter if we can keep up with them, scoring.
What we can learn from the Miami game is that if Hue really wants to build a bully in the O-line, he is going to have to change the lineup. Every time Satele gets hurt and Wisnewski moves to center, we end up with monster holes on the left side. Not because Sateele is that bad but because Barksdale, Veldeer, and Wisnewski create a bully on the left side of the line.
No solution to this problem this year but moving forward, Wisnewski needs to play his true position, center and our left and right guards need to be bigger/stronger. Barksdale should be the guy at LG next year. Sounds like Bruce Campbell is going to be the RT next year, but if we are going to be a true bully on offense Hue will have to replace Carlisle at RG.
Building a bully on defense is another story.
December 5th, 2011 at 11:39 am
raiderinparadise Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 11:36 am
Palmer needs the run game back.
Packer gave up lots of deep throws.
If moore and ford back, watch out.
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Need to score 35 points at least to have a chance
Need Dmac – Ford – Moore in order to have a chance at 35 points
Need all three to play to have a chance, this is the playoffs now, no need to save anyone for the stretch run, this IS the stretch run…no more excuses time to earn those paychecks
December 5th, 2011 at 11:40 am
so what does huff exactly do?
-nothing.
December 5th, 2011 at 11:40 am
Schilens cant play 5 games without breaking down. L Murphy pee’s his pants going over the middle.
All Hagan does is catch the ball and move chains.
Its pretty much a no brainer which is why PeymourGlenn cant comprehend it.
December 5th, 2011 at 11:41 am
Seymour Bush Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 11:36 am
luvmarvhub Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 11:31 am
Curry is so athletic I wonder why it is that no coach has been able to teach him to cover better than he does.
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On the early TD to Bess, you can’t have a 6′3″ 250 lb LB covering a 5′9″ 185 lb receiver. That is not Curry’s fault there.
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it was his fault…it was a zone…he took one to many steps 2 his left when we already had a player in that area and Best gave a little studdard step out and cut back underneath him and we all know who’s gonna win that battle most of the time in space
December 5th, 2011 at 11:41 am
1169.Seymour Bush Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 11:37 am
How many receptions has Hagan had since he left here? You guys are not serious.
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shut up you arent serious glenn….murphy has doen schit for this team! and chaz has played ok and now it hurt again…spare me your stooge like commentary
December 5th, 2011 at 11:41 am
Auto… Exactly… I just wanna know McFaddens real status… I’m sick and tired of hearing, ” hes getting closer”…. That’s the samething Hue told us the day after the Kc game….of course it’s pizzed us off to be in the dark about his injury when we get stomped like yesterday…. We don’t have the time for ” he’s getting closer”.. We need players now … And we need our stars to step up… Or go the Fk on IR..
December 5th, 2011 at 11:41 am
Peymour, instead of talking out your ass go ahead and tell us all how Lechler isn’t a placement kicker, AGAIN!
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Seymour Bush Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 11:38 am
Is this imbecile just chattering incoherently to himself?? “Obliviously”. haha.
December 5th, 2011 at 11:42 am
glenn ur so dumb to mention what he is doing in buffalo…fk that schit! he was helping this team and should be on the team…all bs started with hue then as a tyrant and over his head
December 5th, 2011 at 11:43 am
I luv MM.
But WTF is he doing out there?
Looks lost out there at times.
December 5th, 2011 at 11:43 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 11:41 am
1169.Seymour Bush Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 11:37 am
How many receptions has Hagan had since he left here? You guys are not serious.
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shut up you arent serious glenn….murphy has doen schit for this team!
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Didn’t Murphy lead the team in receptions the last two years? Come on Brien, your commentary this year has been wiggety wack.
December 5th, 2011 at 11:44 am
what has tj douche done for us? a garb time TD? shut up
December 5th, 2011 at 11:44 am
Adam Schine and Rich Gannon seem to think The McClain arrest was to much of a distraction for the Raiders yesterday…. I’m not sure I’m buying that….I believe we got a Whoopin cause they wernt prepared or just didn’t want it bad enough ..
December 5th, 2011 at 11:44 am
MistaBrown Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 11:41 am
Peymour, instead of talking out your ass go ahead and tell us all how Lechler isn’t a placement kicker, AGAIN!
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Jamista men are talking about football. Isn’t there a daytime talk show you can watch on the group TV in the lounge?
December 5th, 2011 at 11:44 am
1187.Seymour Bush Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 11:43 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 11:41 am
1169.Seymour Bush Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 11:37 am
How many receptions has Hagan had since he left here? You guys are not serious.
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shut up you arent serious glenn….murphy has doen schit for this team!
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Didn’t Murphy lead the team in receptions the last two years? Come on Brien, your commentary this year has been wiggety wack.
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is this 2009 or 2010? my commentary has been spot on…check archives you jcat
December 5th, 2011 at 11:45 am
Its irrelevant what Hagan is doing in Buff. He could be helping the Oakland Raiders.
Peymour is a dim witted troll.
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Method To My Madness Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 11:42 am
glenn ur so dumb to mention what he is doing in buffalo
December 5th, 2011 at 11:45 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 11:44 am
what has tj douche done for us?
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I will agree with this. Why this guy is on the roster I have no idea.
December 5th, 2011 at 11:45 am
wiggety wack? you would quote some early 90s lil ass molested kids song wouldnt ya glenny?
December 5th, 2011 at 11:46 am
You dont have the guts to defend your Lechler comment so you are talking in circles like the moronic troll that you are.
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Seymour Bush Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 11:44 am
Jamista men are talking about football. Isn’t there a daytime talk show you can watch on the group TV in the lounge?
December 5th, 2011 at 11:46 am
MistaBrown Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 11:45 am
Its irrelevant what Hagan is doing in Buff. He could be helping the Oakland Raiders.
Peymour is a dim witted troll.
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Method To My Madness Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 11:42 am
glenn ur so dumb to mention what he is doing in buffalo
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If he is as good as you guys claim, don’t you think he would even be on the field in Buffalo? Instead of inactive? Or on the sidelines. Puh-lease. Jamista, you might want to try knitting.
December 5th, 2011 at 11:47 am
10 Reasons why the Raiders will be better Next year.
10.Carson Palmer will have an entire Offseason to work with his offense, and receiving corps.
9.We will upgrade our Offensive Line (No Satele, Wiz takes over)
8.We will upgrade our Defensive Line (Shaunesey will Be back)
7.We will get a free agent Nickel DB
6.Our whole team will be healthy (for a while)
5.Denarius Moore will be experienced.
4.We will have a true G.M for once.
3.Pryor will be utilized.
2.Bresnahan will be gone, and we will have Del Rio or Spags as our D. Coordinators.
1.Hue will no longer be a Rookie head coach and will have learned to delegate the Administrative Duties to someone else, so he can concentrate on X’s and O’s and not overwork himself to death…
December 5th, 2011 at 11:47 am
We currently do not match up well with teams that are physical up front on defense
umm we beat NYJ Houston and Chi and Denver 1st game, so try again
December 5th, 2011 at 11:47 am
MistaBrown Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 11:46 am
You dont have the guts to defend your Lechler comment so you are talking in circles like the moronic troll that you are.
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The only thing you understand is gibberish.
December 5th, 2011 at 11:47 am
Looks like our only hope now is Cinn. losing agiant Houston
…all of the other wild card teams have easy schedules
Jets v KC, Pitt v Clevland, Balitmore v Indy, and Denver v a decimated Chicago team at home
or we could beat GB and keep pace
December 5th, 2011 at 11:48 am
Peymour is a granola eating tree hugger that hasn’t banged a woman in 20 years (or more).
The end
December 5th, 2011 at 11:48 am
Try knitting Jamista clown. football is waaaaaay too complicated for you. And for God Sakes, stay away from politics.
December 5th, 2011 at 11:49 am
maybe the fact that murphy DID lead the team in receptions for WR’s for 2 years is the glaring problem lol
December 5th, 2011 at 11:49 am
Peymour, what in the world would make you log into this blog and make a idiotic statement about Shane Lechler?
Cuckoo Cuckoo
December 5th, 2011 at 11:49 am
MistaBrown Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 11:48 am
Peymour is a granola eating tree hugger that hasn’t banged a woman in 20 years (or more).
The end
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Hahahaha. I sense another meltdown coming. Next thing Jamista Clown will be talking about is Nnamdi.
December 5th, 2011 at 11:50 am
1189.Method To My Madness Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 11:44 am
what has tj douche done for us? a garb time TD? shut up
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He hasn’t done much, because he is the 5th or 6th WR (depending on injuries) on the depth chart. Which is the same reason Derek Hagan had exactly 11 catches while he was here. There are plenty of starters who are underperforming to focus on.
December 5th, 2011 at 11:50 am
Peymour, you made the comment about Lechler. Who knows what about football?
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Seymour Bush Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 11:48 am
Try knitting Jamista clown. football is waaaaaay too complicated for you. And for God Sakes, stay away from politics.
December 5th, 2011 at 11:50 am
I don’t often criticize the Raiders, been a fan since 1967, defend them till the end…..but this team has no GUTS of HEART…..
Pansies wearing Silver & Black or should I say on game day they have street clothes on.
Man up……
December 5th, 2011 at 11:51 am
Are you melting down Jamista? Sure seems so.
Frosty the snowman, was a jolly happy soul,
with a corn cob pipe and a button nose and two eyes made out of snow….
December 5th, 2011 at 11:51 am
beat GB or the season is over.3
thats a hard place to be right now.
December 5th, 2011 at 11:51 am
If Hue is going to stick with this Oline, we need to forget about this idea of out powering physical teams like Miami, Balt, Pitts, etc.
Need to be going no huddle and run off of the pass. If Reece is going to be on the field, he needs to be utilized as a pass option, Hue!!!
December 5th, 2011 at 11:51 am
@GB =win
Det=win
@KC=win
SD=win
11 and 4 bit#hes
December 5th, 2011 at 11:51 am
1193.Seymour Bush Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 11:45 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 11:44 am
what has tj douche done for us?
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I will agree with this. Why this guy is on the roster I have no idea.
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ok so hagan was producing so you doggin him is ridiculous!
December 5th, 2011 at 11:51 am
Peymour hides from his Lechler comment by talking about politics, knitting, and Nnnamdi.
Keep chasing your tail you troll…
December 5th, 2011 at 11:52 am
11 and 5 i mean
December 5th, 2011 at 11:52 am
Ford will play this week. he traveled with the team to Miami, he will play.
Moore and McFadden ….. no clue.
December 5th, 2011 at 11:52 am
1206.bcz24 Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 11:50 am
1189.Method To My Madness Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 11:44 am
what has tj douche done for us? a garb time TD? shut up
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He hasn’t done much, because he is the 5th or 6th WR (depending on injuries) on the depth chart. Which is the same reason Derek Hagan had exactly 11 catches while he was here. There are plenty of starters who are underperforming to focus on.
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Think how helpful Hagan would have been…all this familarity with TJ has done what? Not schit!
December 5th, 2011 at 11:53 am
ok so hagan was producing so you doggin him is ridiculous!
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11 catches. Crazy production.
December 5th, 2011 at 11:54 am
bcz24 Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 11:53 am
ok so hagan was producing so you doggin him is ridiculous!
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11 catches. Crazy production.
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When given the opportunity
December 5th, 2011 at 11:54 am
MistaBrown Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 11:48 am
Peymour is a granola eating tree hugger that hasn’t banged a woman in 20 years (or more).
The end
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oh god Mista…granola eaters
December 5th, 2011 at 11:54 am
As much as I despise the Donkeys , they appear to want this division more than the Raiders do…the donks aren’t nearly as talented as the Raiders… But their desire is off the charts…. Might be a little late but the Raiders might do a gut check and play with the fire we’ve seen them play with before …. Sometimes it’s more about desire than talent…
December 5th, 2011 at 11:54 am
CorkOnTheNFL Steve Corkran
#Raiders defensive coordinator Chuck Bresnahan was spotted overseeing workout of two defensive players. They appeared to be linebackers.
December 5th, 2011 at 11:55 am
ok so hagan was producing so you doggin him is ridiculous!
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Hagan had 10 receptions in 7 games. That is not the kind of production you are going to shelve Murphy or shilens for. Sorry.
December 5th, 2011 at 11:55 am
OK….Here is the reality from yesterday….NO HATE….NO SPIN….As I have been a Raider fan all my life and will be a Raider fan for the rest of my life….The McClain saga tipped the boat over for Jackson….The water level, PRESSURE, has been building on him for some time now and that incident caused him to lose his ability to see the trees from the forest…He has given his best effort and at this point he is in over his head…Like or not, those are the facts….Can the Raiders respond, YES, will they, YES….Why, because the only players that may not be available this week are Hendu and Achilles. That is of course barring a Seymour suspension….So let’s see what kind of game plan offensively and defensively can be drawn up….EVERYONE IS ON NOTICE…..PERIOD…
December 5th, 2011 at 11:55 am
Think how helpful Hagan would have been…all this familarity with TJ has done what? Not schit!
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TJ working with the other WRs has helped them adapt to how carson throws the ball, and with the timing routes. Not EVERYTHING he has brought to the team is on field production. Do you think if Hagan was a Raider we win that game yesterday? I know you are a smart dude, and know your ball, so I will venture to guess that you don’t believe that.
December 5th, 2011 at 11:56 am
CorkOnTheNFL Steve Corkran
#Raiders running back Taiwan Jones said he tested at 75 percent to 80 percent in agility drills today. Might practice Wednesday, play Sun.
December 5th, 2011 at 11:56 am
Are you drunk this morning Jamista? Or is your brain just not up to the task?
December 5th, 2011 at 11:56 am
Hagan produced in pre-season enough to earn playing time. Hue gave him almost nothing. He earned a spot in camp and didnt get it!
Hue is a dumb Fk.
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bcz24 Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 11:53 am
11 catches. Crazy production.
December 5th, 2011 at 11:56 am
CorkOnTheNFL Steve Corkran
WR/PR Denarius Moore (foot) said he isn’t talking about his injury because “we really don’t know yet.” Hee isn’t sure if he will practice.
12 minutes ago
» CorkOnTheNFL Steve Corkran
WR/PR Denarius Moore (foot) said he isn’t talking about his injury because “we really don’t know yet.” Hee isn’t sure if he will practice.
» CorkOnTheNFL Steve Corkran
WR/KR Jacoby Ford (foot) says he is undergoing treatment today and awaiting word on whether he will be cleared to practice this week.
13 minutes ago
December 5th, 2011 at 11:57 am
Hue hasn’t lost me yet… But some of his moves and play calling are real head scratchers…. Think he’s still on a learning curve… And to be fair, he’s had a lot more on his plate than most Rookie head coachs ….
December 5th, 2011 at 11:57 am
come on guys hagan didn’t play x-box …. that was his downfall.
December 5th, 2011 at 11:58 am
Meanwhile Schilens has shelved himself and Murphy is worthless as a tit on a boar.
Go pet your cat or hug a tree Peymour.
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Seymour Bush Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 11:55 am
Hagan had 10 receptions in 7 games. That is not the kind of production you are going to shelve Murphy or shilens for. Sorry.
December 5th, 2011 at 11:59 am
Peymour666Glen has the capabilities of a meal worm.
December 5th, 2011 at 12:00 pm
1219.DMAC Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 11:54 am
bcz24 Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 11:53 am
ok so hagan was producing so you doggin him is ridiculous!
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11 catches. Crazy production.
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When given the opportunity
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8 for first downs…but let’s ignore that…..let’s ignore how Hue purposely sabotaged his time becuz people were noticing him as a chain mover
December 5th, 2011 at 12:00 pm
The McClain drama was a distraction. Just the fact Hue had to take time to get on the horn with this cat, and make sure all is well on the personal front for another grown a$$ man, and is having heart to heart talks when he should be preparing for the Fins was enough to give Sparano the edge….time to get back to football. We’ll need at least one of speedster wideouts to come back, but if so; we can win this game against the Pack….
December 5th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
Hue cut Hagan so it would be obvious that he is being shown up
December 5th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
Yes Hue is a complete idiot for missing the boat on marginal talent that has done nothing with any other squad. Come on man. Buffalo has be decimated with injury at WR and Hagan isnt even being ACTIVATED there. You think there is a conspiracy against him? hagan was cut by 2 or 3 other teams before getting here. Yes he played well in the preseason against the scrub teams, but a marginal talent is NOT the difference in your season.
You guys say things like DMAC and Ford being out aren’t excuses, but cry about a guy who is NOTHING compared to them like we cut Andre Johnson.
December 5th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
That injury status report really doesn’t tell us much does it…. But thanks for posting it # 1229
December 5th, 2011 at 12:02 pm
Hagan wouldn’t have made any difference in any of our games. Is he better than TJ? I guess? Does the 6th WR on a roster matter all that much when your D can’t stop anybody? No. 17 sacks in 3 games given up, will Hagan help that? No.
December 5th, 2011 at 12:02 pm
MistaBrown Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 11:56 am
Hagan produced in pre-season enough to earn playing time.
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Jamista, the preseason is for scrubs. You are a scrub. A scrub without a brain. Real NFL players play in the season. But how bout dat Shaun Bodiford?
December 5th, 2011 at 12:03 pm
1237.bcz24 Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
Yes Hue is a complete idiot for missing the boat on marginal talent that has done nothing with any other squad. Come on man. Buffalo has be decimated with injury at WR and Hagan isnt even being ACTIVATED there. You think there is a conspiracy against him? hagan was cut by 2 or 3 other teams before getting here. Yes he played well in the preseason against the scrub teams, but a marginal talent is NOT the difference in your season.
You guys say things like DMAC and Ford being out aren’t excuses, but cry about a guy who is NOTHING compared to them like we cut Andre Johnson.
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Chan Gailey is running the show there so its not hard to figure out is it?
December 5th, 2011 at 12:03 pm
if we tie with denver, were out.
December 5th, 2011 at 12:04 pm
1239.raiderinparadise Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 12:02 pm
Hagan wouldn’t have made any difference in any of our games. Is he better than TJ? I guess? Does the 6th WR on a roster matter all that much when your D can’t stop anybody? No. 17 sacks in 3 games given up, will Hagan help that? No.
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Hagan is better than TJ and Murphy…raiders still havent found a guy to move chains as Hagan did….this is fact you guys cant dispute
December 5th, 2011 at 12:04 pm
alex7 Says:
December 4th, 2011 at 3:00 pm
Our linebacker talent is GOOD, our scheme is terrible. They sit back and catch rbs all day, 5 yards later.
Same story for 8 years regardless of who is out there.
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This is exactly what I’ve been saying for years.
It doesnt matter WHO the players are on our defense. The outcome never changes with regards to stuffing the run with any consistency. No one can tell me otherwise that it isnt a schematic issue.
Great post
December 5th, 2011 at 12:05 pm
Chan Gailey is running the show there so its not hard to figure out is it?
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Tom Coughlin CUT Hagan…. I suppose you are going to tell me he sucks too. (His Giants have a ring, and are perenially competing)
December 5th, 2011 at 12:05 pm
1239.raiderinparadise Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 12:02 pm
Hagan wouldn’t have made any difference in any of our games. Is he better than TJ? I guess? Does the 6th WR on a roster matter all that much when your D can’t stop anybody? No. 17 sacks in 3 games given up, will Hagan help that? No.
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It matters when you suck at 3rd down conversions and you cut him for a guy that aint doing schit…we are injured at WR and guess what players not doing schit
December 5th, 2011 at 12:06 pm
1245.bcz24 Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 12:05 pm
Chan Gailey is running the show there so its not hard to figure out is it?
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Tom Coughlin CUT Hagan…. I suppose you are going to tell me he sucks too. (His Giants have a ring, and are perenially competing)
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Coughlin has clout…Gailey doesnt, he has always been a moronic person…plus see NY’s WR unit?
December 5th, 2011 at 12:06 pm
Heard the Texans RB ‘ foster” say on the NFl channel last week that he though the Raiders were the best team they played this year… And that’s what makes yesterday game so hard to take……. This team isn’t as bad as the team we saw yesterday… They just didn’t want it bad enough..
December 5th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
When we needed guys to step up the most….they werent there for us…Chaz is just made of glass but tries hard…DHB playing hard…Murphy and TJ aint schit
December 5th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
Real NFL players like R Seymour?
lmao
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Seymour Bush Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 12:02 pm
Jamista, the preseason is for scrubs. You are a scrub. A scrub without a brain. Real NFL players play in the season.
December 5th, 2011 at 12:08 pm
1248.fingers Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 12:06 pm
Heard the Texans RB ‘ foster” say on the NFl channel last week that he though the Raiders were the best team they played this year… And that’s what makes yesterday game so hard to take……. This team isn’t as bad as the team we saw yesterday… They just didn’t want it bad enough..
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Wait wait….you talking about When JC and Tonga were our starters and beat them on road? Go figure….ill be back in a minute lmao
December 5th, 2011 at 12:08 pm
I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a team that can have such highs and lows…. The Raiders biggest fault is being consistent… Big time… These guys are allover the place
December 5th, 2011 at 12:08 pm
Hagan is better than TJ and Murphy…raiders still havent found a guy to move chains as Hagan did….this is fact you guys cant dispute
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I can dispute it. We have gotten LOTS of first downs without Derek Hagan. I can’t believe we are still even having this conversation. NICK MILLER has been more productive since leaving us than Hagan. Just a little FYI.
December 5th, 2011 at 12:09 pm
Derek Hagan only netted one catch that game vs Houston….went for a first down….go figure right? hahahahahahahaha
December 5th, 2011 at 12:10 pm
Coughlin has clout…Gailey doesnt, he has always been a moronic person…plus see NY’s WR unit?
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The only WR on NYs roster right now that was there when they cut Hagan is Nicks.
December 5th, 2011 at 12:10 pm
1253.bcz24 Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 12:08 pm
Hagan is better than TJ and Murphy…raiders still havent found a guy to move chains as Hagan did….this is fact you guys cant dispute
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I can dispute it. We have gotten LOTS of first downs without Derek Hagan. I can’t believe we are still even having this conversation. NICK MILLER has been more productive since leaving us than Hagan. Just a little FYI.
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No you didnt dispute a fkin thing…name the mthfker at WR who is chain mover on 3rd down….you cant and you wont…just sit there and lie ok
December 5th, 2011 at 12:10 pm
It’s def. been a roller coaster ride this season.
Hopefully it stops on top and not at the bottom.
December 5th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
DMAC lookin a lot like Chaz on the reliability front. Becoming a serious issue non-contact injuries that are recurring
December 5th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
Hue has made some great moves with Palmer, Curry and Sheppard. A very questionable move with Hagan. And Satale, the little Samoan that could, is overachieving but he get tossed around like a toy doll sometimes. That has not ever happened to Wiz. Coach needs to recognize this and move wiz to center and Heyer to gaurd. But Hues most critical mistake, was letting inmate #55 leave to his grampa’s funeral without a police escort. That poor judgement cost the Raiders this season. What a shame. #55 should be cut immediately. He is worse than Randy Moss. How many championship rings does Moss have?
December 5th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
Sorry B but you dont know a god damn thing about football if you think not having Derek Hagan on our roster yesterday caused us to lose. You are grasping at straws. Period.
December 5th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
Foster was ask… Who stands out to you…. He said the Raiders…. That’s all I’m saying …I remember Foster giving props to the whole team…. He used the word ” tough”….
December 5th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
1255.bcz24 Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 12:10 pm
Coughlin has clout…Gailey doesnt, he has always been a moronic person…plus see NY’s WR unit?
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The only WR on NYs roster right now that was there when they cut Hagan is Nicks.
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Manningham…..Cruz….eventho he aint that great Barden? Were there lol
December 5th, 2011 at 12:13 pm
1260.bcz24 Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
Sorry B but you dont know a god damn thing about football if you think not having Derek Hagan on our roster yesterday caused us to lose. You are grasping at straws. Period.
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No you dont know a damn thing if you think that cutting him wasnt the stupidest coward schit move ever by Hue….knowing damn well Al was against it
do you understand the forces of nature are aty work here? Dont you know what goes around comes around…I told all you smart asses this the week of denver game….boy did it show up on us? Hell yeah it did!
December 5th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
Bcz…name our good route runner on this team….Chaz was decent now he is done…ford,moore and dhb aint crisp in their routes….TJ is invisible and Murphy fkin sucks
December 5th, 2011 at 12:15 pm
1259.sirblitzalot Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
Hue has made some great moves with Palmer, Curry and Sheppard. A very questionable move with Hagan. And Satale, the little Samoan that could, is overachieving but he get tossed around like a toy doll sometimes. That has not ever happened to Wiz. Coach needs to recognize this and move wiz to center and Heyer to gaurd. But Hues most critical mistake, was letting inmate #55 leave to his grampa’s funeral without a police escort. That poor judgement cost the Raiders this season. What a shame. #55 should be cut immediately. He is worse than Randy Moss. How many championship rings does Moss have?
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Exactly
December 5th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
It’s was no 1 player that lost yesterday’s game ….Offense, defense , punt coverage stunk yesterday…… Thought DHB played hard…
December 5th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
Ford can run routes very very well imo.
December 5th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
fingers Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
Foster was ask… Who stands out to you…. He said the Raiders…. That’s all I’m saying …I remember Foster giving props to the whole team…. He used the word ” tough”….
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I think Foster grew up a Raider fan. He said his dad was a big fan back in the day. (just saying tho)
December 5th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
Exactly.
Hue said he wanted TJ in the off season but Al wanted Hagan. As soon as Al passed Hue whipped out his crank and started poking people with it.
I think Marc or Amy reeled this fool in soon after that.
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Method To My Madness Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 12:13 pm
No you dont know a damn thing if you think that cutting him wasnt the stupidest coward schit move ever by Hue….knowing damn well Al was against it
December 5th, 2011 at 12:17 pm
And Hue and that monstrous ego is screwing the Raiders…Bcz, Hagan is just a part of Hue’s blunders….how about not recognizing the oline issues and sitting satele’s ass down? How about refusing to play Tonga? How about not showing halftime adjustments? The guy is fkin up terribly and you cant deny this
The losses are on Hue….this team should be 9-3….no excuses at all!
December 5th, 2011 at 12:18 pm
yall killing me here with the mc55 distraction bid
was i the only one that seen dat that this team fail to even compete…this was worst than the Giants dee quitting against the Saints monday nite…no one on the dee played like they were inspired for 60mins…not even curry and he always pumped…but not even him…so its Mc55 fault…guess the dee said “man Mclain got in trouble there goes my will to tackle and give 100%”
Mclain seem 2 be da only one playin with a sense of urgency(guess he owed it to the team tho)
now the bright side
Raiders always play tough afta an unispired effort or a let down game
One Nation
Unda God
December 5th, 2011 at 12:19 pm
Dmac… I believe your correct… I remember Foster saying his Dad was a Raider fan..
December 5th, 2011 at 12:21 pm
Fingers Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 12:06 pm
Heard the Texans RB ‘ foster” say on the NFl channel last week that he though the Raiders were the best team they played this year… And that’s what makes yesterday game so hard to take……. This team isn’t as bad as the team we saw yesterday… They just didn’t want it bad enough..
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Is this good news or bad news?
December 5th, 2011 at 12:21 pm
“Hagan is better than TJ and Murphy…raiders still havent found a guy to move chains as Hagan did….this is fact you guys cant dispute”
So true!
Murphy has gone from a good prospect to playing scared with alligator arms!
December 5th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
1270.Method To My Madness Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 12:17 pm
And Hue and that monstrous ego is screwing the Raiders…Bcz, Hagan is just a part of Hue’s blunders….how about not recognizing the oline issues and sitting satele’s ass down? How about refusing to play Tonga? How about not showing halftime adjustments? The guy is fkin up terribly and you cant deny this
The losses are on Hue….this team should be 9-3….no excuses at all!
I agree except for the last sentence…we should be at least 10-2, if not 11-1…Hue making Boller throw all the time against KC was just friggen wrong!
December 5th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
umm we beat NYJ Houston and Chi and Denver 1st game, so try again.
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Ok… The Jets are not as physical up front this year as they would like to believe. Chicago, Houston, and Denver we barely beat (not to mention we beat a week 1 Denver team). Do you really think we bullied any of those teams other than the Broncos and Jets (who have been pushed around by more than a few teams)?
Texans are a physical front = D McFadden 51 yrds
Chicago has a physcial front = M Bush 69 yrds
Miami has a physical front = 18 yrds
What do you think we could really do against teams like Baltimore or Pittsburgh?
No reason to try to make a valid point again. If we are going to win by “building a bully” than we still have some building to do. Till then we will have a hard time beating teams that are more physical than us.
December 5th, 2011 at 12:29 pm
These are the Raiders that I hate with passion,,the Raiders that comes out and lays an egg in a game they really shouldve won and really needed to win. The team with a ton of talent but without an ounce of brains, heart or competitiveness as well as discipline. This team hasn’t developed the mental toughness it takes to fight their way back into a game trailing by a large score, nor have they developed a killer instinct to put teams away instead of allowing them back into games then having it to come down to the wire. It drives me crazy to see that we appear to be the most injury prone team in the NFL. Every year this team gets submerged in injuries and I ask myself why the conditioning coach can’t seem to keep this team healthy. I believe we have more talent than most teams we play but they just seem to always outsmart us and remain more disciplined than us which is why we lose games in the worse way sometimes. I originally picked the Raiders to be the ones to hand Green Bay their first loss but I just can’t see it happening with the way we’ve been playing lately,,Jeckle and Hyde all year.
Venting.
December 5th, 2011 at 1:01 pm
WHEN YOU PULL YOUR CRANK OUT TO WAVE IT AROUND YOU BETTER BE ABLE TO FIND IT…..FIRST…..
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The moment they lost this game – and Denver won – probability of an off season appearance drastically started to fall off. Granted there are still four games left, and anything can happen – but as it stands now – Denver holds the cards – so until I see Tebow Time falter (and I hope it does as I really don’t want to see another 1 hour special on the guy)we can win games but that won’t be enough. We had the chance and dropped the ball – which to much dismay has been the same old story for the last 10 years. Don’t get me wrong – two more wins – which we should at least get – will get us a winning season – a positive ending. I just expect more from this team and unfortunately as previously mentioned its been Jeckle and Hyde.
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