Coach Jackson, QB Palmer, other Raiders speak Sunday
By Steve Corkran
Monday, December 5th, 2011 at 1:51 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Here is an assortment of transcripts from Raiders coach Hue Jackson, quarterback Carson Palmer and other players after Sunday’s 34-14 loss to the Miami Dolphins. These are courtesy of the Miami Dolphins:
Oakland Raiders Head Coach Hue Jackson
(Opening Remarks) – “Injury update: (Jarvis) Moss had a hip pointer, didn’t finish. (Chaz) Schilens has a foot, didn’t finish. Very disappointed. I take total responsibility for this loss. This football team didn’t play well on offensive, defense or special teams. We got some work to do. I’m not going to blame it on anything. It’s not about coming to the east. It’s not about anything that went on this week. What it’s about is that team wanted to play harder than this team. I didn’t prepare this team as well as I can. We’ll get better. We got some work to do. We’ll get better. We win three, loss one…to a team that’s 3-8. I think that’s a better team than people think they are. They played well today. They did enough to beat us. We couldn’t run it. We couldn’t stop the run. We didn’t throw it very well. We didn’t play special teams very well. So when it gets like that, that’s just a bad day at the office. There ain’t no excuse to it. I’ll take everything on myself.”
(On his team’s lack of enthusiasm) – “I didn’t get this team ready to play.”
(On QB Carson Palmer’s development) – “I’m not going to make excuses. He’s our quarterback and today we lost. He didn’t produce a win for our football team. We didn’t play well. I’m not going to say it’s because he’s fatigued or anything. This is the National Football League. When they say ‘set hut’ you gotta play.”
(On if he knew early on in the game that his team would struggle) – “No, I’m not going to say that. I know this team, I’ve been around this team. Like I said, it starts with me. I didn’t make sure that this team had energy all the time. I think this team, in my opinion, came in ready to play. We didn’t finish. Again, that’s my responsibility.”
(On the Rolando McClain situation) – “The information that I have, that I gathered myself in dealing with him, is I feel that the player has an opportunity to be honest. I think at the end of the day there’s no question that he knows I’m disappointed with some things that occurred. And I will take care of that in- house. If the league decides to come down on him then I’m going to come down on him like you’ve never seen. But I’m truly backing my player on this. I trust the things that I know. I truly believe that when this is all said and done that there’s an opportunity…I know the league is investigating. When the league makes a determination then I will make a determination. Until then, I’m going to trust my player. But he knows there’s a part of it that I don’t agree with by no stretch of the imagination. And that’s where we are today.”
(On if the Rolando McClain situation was a distraction for the team today) – “No. That has nothing to do with getting beat like we just got beat.”
(On if the team’s injuries had a major impact in today’s defeat) – “There’s no excuses. It’d be easy for me to say a lot of things. I’m not going to. This is the National Football League. We have good players in that room and our good players have to play good every week. And we didn’t do that today. So at the end of the day it starts with me and it filters down to them.”
(On what the officials told him as to why DT Richard Seymour was ejected) – “That he took a swing at somebody on the ground. I didn’t see it, obviously. But they kicked him out of the game. As I told him, he can’t get kicked out. He’s one of the rocks of this football team. You can never do something to get yourself kicked out of the game when you’re one of the leaders of this football team. Again, back to the drawing board. The same things that have beat us when we lost have beat us today. Not being able to stop the rush. Not being able to run the ball. Penalties. So again, I take responsibility. I gotta fix it. And we’re gonna keep working at it.”
(On what specifically the Dolphins did to win the game) – “They beat us! They were more physical than we were. They pushed us around. That’s not something you want to have happen to your football team.”
(On his approach for the next game against Green Bay) – “I don’t need a lot of fire with these guys. These guys know what’s at stake. The locker room knows, the team knows. We knew coming down the stretch there’d be some tough games and we’re not going to back away from that. We know we’re playing the Green Bay Packers down there and we gotta get ourselves ready to play. When it gets like this you gotta go back to the foundation of this team. It starts at practice. It starts at meetings. We’ve been a decent road team this year. We’re 4-2 on the road. This is the first time I really felt that we didn’t play well on the road. It got away from us.”
(On if he thought about taking QB Carson Palmer out of the game when they trailed 34-0) – “No. He needs to play. He needs to continue to play. I think the more reps he gets the better he’s gonna be. They knocked him around a little bit, knocked him down. He keeps getting up. One thing I love about him is he keeps getting up, keeps competing.”
(On the recent struggles of the offensive line) – “I’m disappointed, again, in me for not getting those guys to play like I think they can. It starts with me. I gotta get the offensive line to play better. I gotta get the defensive line to play better. I gotta get this football team to play better. And I will. We’re gonna go back to work.”
Oakland Raiders RB Michael Bush
(On what the Dolphins did to stop their running game) – “They played well. They are a great defense. Coming into the game we knew they were the seventh ranked defense in the NFL and today they proved it. They did exactly what they needed to do and once we got behind we were behind the eight ball and unable to stay committed to running the ball.”
(On QB Carson’s Palmer progress in the offense and the importance of running the ball) – “Carson (Palmer) and the offense are fine. He knows the system. It was not an issue. We just need to move the ball on the ground and play better as an offense.”
(On the Dolphins improvement) – “I mean when you are hot, you are hot. The Dolphins are hot. Everyone in the league can see that. This team is playing well right now.”
Oakland Raiders LB Aaron Curry
(On Curry’s overall performance and team’s defense) – “Well we just have to play better. I mean all the credit to the Dolphins because they just flat out beat us. And then at the end there wasn’t even a point in the game where they weren’t beating us and they had a really good game plan. They executed some stuff and just handed us a loss.”
(On what they can learn or improve on to get better from this game) – “Really we just have to move on. We just have to move on mentally and physically.”
Oakland Raiders Safety Matt Giordano
(Thoughts on Dolphins offense and QB Matt Moore) – “They executed today and we didn’t. They came to play and we didn’t.”
(Strategies to do differently for next game) – “Differently? We would execute, simple as that. I know I left a couple plays out there that I know I should have (covered). And you know what, that’s a good thing about professional football…you learn from this, you get thick skin. We got to come in tomorrow, absorb as much as we can from this experience, and learn from it and moved on.”
Oakland Raiders WR Darrius Heyward-Bey
(On the Dolphins defense) – “They did exactly what they needed to do today. Stop our running game and make us throw the ball. They did that.”
(On the progression of the offense with QB Carson Palmer) – “We are fine, we just need to work harder, study film, keep getting a feel for each other and Carson and the receivers and this offense will be fine. We need to improve next week and we will. This offense just needs to work hard and get better next week.”
(On what the Raiders need to do to make the playoffs) – “Two words. Green Bay.”
Oakland Raiders WR T.J. Houshmandzadeh
(On the Raiders offense in today’s game) – “Nothing. They played well. We didn’t play very well at all. But when you don’t play well on offense, obviously the defense has, they play a part in that. They’re a good team.”
(On if the Dolphins surprised the Raiders today) – “No. We knew going in. When you watch them on tape, you ask yourself ‘how are they 3-8?’ They got a lot of good players on defense. I mean, me being a fan of football within itself, they got good players on offense. It’s weird how they have the record they have, and whether we were ready or not, they’re a good team.”
(On the Dolphins still relatively young defensive backfield) – “Well you know, I think they’re good. I somewhat know Sean Smith a little bit. He’s a big guy. But they’re talented. They’re young, they’re talented, and again, it’s the NFL. You can look at records and say whatever. But they’re a good team to be 3-8, or now, 4-8. Real good.”
(On where the Raiders offense goes from here) – “We just got to go back to practice and try to get better. That’s all you can do. You know, it’s the NFL. We got a game next Sunday. So get this out of the system, and tomorrow we got to get ready for Green Bay.”
Oakland Raiders QB Carson Palmer
(On the game today) “After a loss like this there’s really not much to say other than we just got outplayed in every phase of the game. We just got physically beat today, which is discouraging. It’s very disappointing obviously and we need to look at this and we need to figure out why and what happened because there’s not a whole lot of answers right now. After you lose a game like this, you have to think about it and look at it and move on. The good thing is if Green Bay wins today, you’ve got a chance for redemption if you beat a team that’s undefeated and get you back on the right track. It’s just a disappointing loss.”
(On how he felt out there today) “I felt like this was a great week and I felt like I broke through. You kind of go through that in training camp and then as the regular season comes down to an end you kind of fight through that and have to break through it. I felt great this week. I felt like I had gotten there and I just need to continue to keep working and keep getting better.”
(On the Dolphins play today) “There’s no excuse, we got outplayed. They played better than we did. Aside from their record this is a very good defense and we knew that coming in. We knew it wasn’t going to be an easy game and we knew it was going to be a physical game and we didn’t match their physical play.”
(On coming out flat at the start of the game) “It definitely looked like that from what happened to us in the first half, but I didn’t feel that way. As the three and outs happened in the first half, you kind of felt that we weren’t executing and that we weren’t playing very well. Anytime you do some of the things that we did, especially on offense, I had an intentional grounding which was unacceptable, we had a couple of holds that were unacceptable, and we put ourselves way too far back on third down. We had second and twenties, third and twenties and it’s one thing if you’re playing against a team that’s struggling defensively, but against a good defense we dug ourselves too deep of a hole.”
(On what the last two touchdown passes did for the team) “Nothing. They were well executed plays and we executed to get down the field, but need to do that in the first quarter, the second quarter, the third quarter and the beginning of the fourth quarter. It was just too little too late. It seemed like they had the ball almost the entire third quarter and when we got opportunities we didn’t take advantage of them offensively.”
Oakland Raiders DT Richard Seymour
(Statement on getting rejected from today’s game) – “I apologize to my teammates, coaching staff, and the organization, also the Raider Nation. I’m disappointed that I wasn’t there to finish the game with my teammates. I think that it’s an emotional game, and I shouldn’t have let my emotions get the best of me. No excuses.”
(On if he threw a punch) – “I have made my statement.”
(On the Dolphins performance in today’s game) – “They did what they had to do to win. They kept us off balance. They ran the ball. And, you know, they made the plays they needed to make. We make no excuses about it. We took one on the chin. We got to play better than what we did today.”
(On if distractions were a factor today) – “No. They just played better. They were more physical than us. That’s what the results were. That’s the bottom line.”
(On the Dolphins up and down season, and his perspective on the Dolphins performance today) – “We knew they got players in terms of their running plays. Who are their go to guys. But at the end of the day we just didn’t stop it. They kept us off balance. We never felt like we were, like we had any consistency. We give them credit. We knew coming into this game they were a good football team. They have a lot of good players on that side of the ball. They have won three out of the last four, or whatever the case may be. We were prepared but they played better today.”
Oakland Raiders T Jared Veldheer
(On the offense) – “There wasn’t a whole lot of rhythm; you can’t really put it on anybody. We just didn’t come out like we needed to today. I know this sounds cliché, but we need to look at this tape and really try to build on it and push ourselves. And use this to really be ready for the last 4 games of the season. We hit a bump here and it’s critical to fix all the mistakes that were made and really get good from watching that for the stretch run. Time to go back to work tomorrow, that’s for sure.”
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December 5th, 2011 at 1:51 pm
CODE BLACK is # 1
December 5th, 2011 at 1:52 pm
I guess you meant 13 or 30 because 3 is way too low of a number.
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fingers Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 1:46 pm
Hue Jackson will say Obviously at least 3 times during his presser…
15 minutes …
December 5th, 2011 at 1:54 pm
# Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 1:53 pm
palmer has an abysmal 4th qaurter passer rating of 57.3!!!! 2 touchdowns and 5 picks
on 3rd down he is slightly better 63.% 2/2 5 sacks
this isnt “elite”, and it isnt good enough to win, especially when you consider the shaky line play, lack of skill players and defense that cant be counted on week to week
December 5th, 2011 at 1:55 pm
Raiders 34
Packers 31
LOL
December 5th, 2011 at 1:55 pm
MistaBrown Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 1:52 pm
I guess you meant 13 or 30 because 3 is way too low of a number.
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Jamista Clown, the blog turd. Oblivious.
December 5th, 2011 at 1:55 pm
John David Booty Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 1:54 pm
I want to know who is going to step up and take the personal challenge of trying to stop Clay. Raiders players never want to “man up”. Always looking for excuses or the next person to blame. I never even see any player excited to take on any challenges against certain players. It seems like Raiders players have this mentality that they are just “there” in the league, and arent interested in elevating their game. At the very least, show some pride. Watching the team tip toe to the line, while there was still a lot of time left, This team is not a bully. This team is a flashy pansy. Looks good, fast, can make plays, but as soon as you punch em in the mouth, they fold, like lawn chairs. Team full of kittens.
December 5th, 2011 at 1:56 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 1:54 pm
# Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 1:53 pm
palmer has an abysmal 4th qaurter passer rating of 57.3!!!! 2 touchdowns and 5 picks
on 3rd down he is slightly better 63.% 2/2 5 sacks
this isnt “elite”, and it isnt good enough to win, especially when you consider the shaky line play, lack of skill players and defense that cant be counted on week to week
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Ok we got your point, now go hide under the rock.
December 5th, 2011 at 1:57 pm
PeymourGlen666, how ridiculous do you look making retarded comments on all my post?
When I come at you I bring something real like your Lechler comment or JaMarcus franchise Qb blunder.
Retarded ass idiot…
December 5th, 2011 at 1:57 pm
CODE BLACK
December 5th, 2011 at 1:58 pm
CODE BLACK get used to it Mista and Mistic
December 5th, 2011 at 2:01 pm
I just hope Coach Hue can obviously get our players ready to play on sunday , atleast the guy takes the blame for the loss
December 5th, 2011 at 2:02 pm
Code Black = I’m out
December 5th, 2011 at 2:04 pm
teams like green bay and new orleans can be had, you have to be able o score and protect the ball. If carson can avoid the critical errors we have a chance in a shootout.
Im not certain i like the idea of carson throwing more than 25 times a game, he has a proclivity for interceptions.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:05 pm
TJ Hous getting a few words, i want quotes from people who matter,
Mcfadden – on foot, and life in general, hows your dogs?
Ford – on ankle
Barnes – on why hes so dumb
Reece & Boss – on the touches they got
December 5th, 2011 at 2:06 pm
Who the Fk are you talking to me about a CODE BLACK you little cockroach?
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mcfadden20. Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 1:58 pm
CODE BLACK get used to it Mista and Mistic
December 5th, 2011 at 2:06 pm
Well, well, well. I already watched all these video clips of those quotes. Nothing new here.
MY FAVORITE QUOTE:
Oakland Raiders WR Darrius Heyward-Bey
(On what the Raiders need to do to make the playoffs) – “Two words. Green Bay.”
December 5th, 2011 at 2:08 pm
Disgusting loss!
December 5th, 2011 at 2:08 pm
Hue is starting to remind me a lot of Mike White. Not a compliment.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:08 pm
MistaBrown Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 2:06 pm
Who the Fk are you talking to me about a CODE BLACK you little cockroach?
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No one is talking to you. We are ALL wiping our asses with you.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:08 pm
MistaBrown Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 2:06 pm
Who the Fk are you talking to me about a CODE BLACK you little cockroach?
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mcfadden20. Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 1:58 pm
CODE BLACK get used to it Mista and Mistic
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I’m your Daddy , so get used to CODE BLACK B1tch
December 5th, 2011 at 2:09 pm
Blackmamba_20 Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 2:05 pm
TJ Hous getting a few words, i want quotes from people who matter,
Mcfadden – on foot, and life in general, hows your dogs?
Ford – on ankle
Barnes – on why hes so dumb
Reece & Boss – on the touches they got
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Boss dropped 3 in a row.
I Meyers is better, thats thwy the playing time has been scewed.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:10 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 2:08 pm
MistaBrown Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 2:06 pm
Who the Fk are you talking to me about a CODE BLACK you little cockroach?
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No one is talking to you. We are ALL wiping our asses with you.
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CODE Blacck
December 5th, 2011 at 2:10 pm
From the Green Bay Press Gazette (and I thought our press was mean, remember Green Bay won Sunday)
EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. — The Green Bay Packers’ defense looked about the same on Sunday against the New York Giants as it has for most of the season.
That is, it gave up all kinds of yardage, missed some tackles and had breakdowns in the secondary that led to big plays down the field.
But throughout its unbeaten start to the season, the defense always managed to come up with enough big plays, turnovers and defensive stops to seal games without needing Aaron Rodgers and the offense to save the day at the end.
Except this time, it didn’t.
The same defense that had the goal-line stand on the final play to win the opener against the New Orleans, that stopped the Minnesota Vikings’ last drive at the Metrodome and that intercepted Philip Rivers on the Chargers’ final chance for a comeback couldn’t do it on Sunday at MetLife Stadium.
Sure, the Packers escaped with a 38-35 last-second victory to remain unbeaten and move within four games of a perfect regular season, but it was no thanks to much of anything the defense did in the closing stretch.
Needing perhaps just one more stand to wrap up the game after the Packers took a 35-27 lead with 3:34 to play, the defense couldn’t stop Eli Manning and the Giants, who went 69 yards in nine plays that lasted just two minutes and 26 seconds for the game-tying score — a 2-yard fade to receiver Hakeem Nicks against cornerback Sam Shields for a touchdown and two-point conversion run by D.J. Ware.
Instead, the Packers’ defense had to watch Rodgers take over with 58 seconds left and set up Mason Crosby’s 31-yard field goal to win it at the final gun.
“It’s very frustrating,” Packers linebacker Clay Matthews said. “You want to be out there and make that final stand. Unfortunately, we weren’t able to do that. Fortunately, we were able to drive down and get that field goal. But as a defense, you’d love to be out there and make that stop.”
Yes, they were without inside linebackers Desmond Bishop and A.J. Hawk, both inactive because of calf injuries, and had lost cornerback Charles Woodson to a concussion earlier in the fourth quarter, but the Packers did make one key defensive stop earlier in the fourth quarter. With 8:13 to go and after punter Tim Masthay pinned the Giants at the own 13-yard line, the Packers forced a three and out.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:11 pm
funny but the same people that claim its too early to judge the new qb, are the same ones screaming for hu jacks head.
doesnt a head coach get more than one season to prove if he can do the job? we have 8-9 years of film on palmer playing qb, but he shouldnt be judged. yet the head coach only gets 12 games?!?!
double standards are wild in here
December 5th, 2011 at 2:12 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 2:11 pm
funny but the same people that claim its too early to judge the new qb, are the same ones screaming for hu jacks head.
doesnt a head coach get more than one season to prove if he can do the job? we have 8-9 years of film on palmer playing qb, but he shouldnt be judged. yet the head coach only gets 12 games?!?!
double standards are wild in here
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We can do whatever we want
CODE BLACK
December 5th, 2011 at 2:12 pm
Hey, nobody told me Woodson is out with a concussion. I hope he takes a couple weeks off to get all better.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:13 pm
John David Booty Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 2:08 pm
Hue is starting to remind me a lot of Mike White. Not a compliment.
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LOL
December 5th, 2011 at 2:13 pm
You aint nothing but a pile of piss.
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mcfadden20. Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 2:08 pm
I’m your Daddy , so get used to CODE BLACK B1tch
December 5th, 2011 at 2:13 pm
raiderinparadise Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 2:09 pm
Blackmamba_20 Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 2:05 pm
TJ Hous getting a few words, i want quotes from people who matter,
Mcfadden – on foot, and life in general, hows your dogs?
Ford – on ankle
Barnes – on why hes so dumb
Reece & Boss – on the touches they got
****
Boss dropped 3 in a row.
I Meyers is better, thats thwy the playing time has been scewed
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Yeah i know proof is in the puding, and Meyers has really surprised me with his Catching & his blocking is key,
but you really think he is better than boss?
look as long a whoever out there is productive then im partial. i guess goin on bosses drops its meyers, but i think boss is a better player.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:13 pm
So what if Chaz is out? TJ a starter? with DHB!? Murphy!? ohhhhhhhhh no!
December 5th, 2011 at 2:14 pm
qodrn Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 2:12 pm
Hey, nobody told me Woodson is out with a concussion. I hope he takes a couple weeks off to get all better.
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34-24 Raiders
December 5th, 2011 at 2:14 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 2:11 pm
funny but the same people that claim its too early to judge the new qb, are the same ones screaming for hu jacks head.
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HueJack is cool with me…
December 5th, 2011 at 2:15 pm
Meyers has had great hands and played well everytime the ball comes his way. Boss is much slower too.
I agree with you blackmamba … whoever making plays give them more reps. At this point in the season best production gotta be out there, not biggest contracts and names.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:16 pm
I’d love to be able to predict a win for the Raiders, but I have no idea who this team is.
I will say this, if we get blown out again, our season is over.
Anticipation has turned to dread.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:16 pm
I got no problem with Hue jack he needs another year to get rid of dead weight … but hes on right track better than Gruden in his first year
December 5th, 2011 at 2:16 pm
Peymour do you have anything else to do than troll my post?
Rhetorical question Peymour dont bother….
December 5th, 2011 at 2:16 pm
Its been well recorded how important C. WOOD is to the D when he can;t play. This might be a huge deal if chaz gets healthy and ford back.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:16 pm
CODE BLACK = Cheese Heads will go down and they will go down hard
December 5th, 2011 at 2:17 pm
DHB VINDICATED!!!!
There should be no doubt that dhb is the best wr on this team. he is by far the most consistent threat and only needs the ball thrown his way more often. Ford is brittle, and has had the drops, moore has been wildly inconsistent.
DHB is catching everything thrown his way, and finally they looked him up on a back shoulder jump ball in the endzone. this kid should never lose playing time to any other wr, or formation grouping like he did a couple of weeks ago
December 5th, 2011 at 2:17 pm
We play our 1st complete game of the year and beat the Packers 34-24
December 5th, 2011 at 2:18 pm
How could this team not be ready to play when they know that Denver is playing good football? Denver maynot lose another game. Everytime the Raiders go to Miami they get their as*** whipped. You got to be ready. Come on man!
December 5th, 2011 at 2:18 pm
DHB is my new favorite Raider:
(On what the Raiders need to do to make the playoffs) – “Two words. Green Bay.”
December 5th, 2011 at 2:18 pm
Yuck…
December 5th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 2:17 pm
DHB VINDICATED!!!!
There should be no doubt that dhb is the best wr on this team. he is by far the most consistent threat and only needs the ball thrown his way more often. Ford is brittle, and has had the drops, moore has been wildly inconsistent.
DHB is catching everything thrown his way, and finally they looked him up on a back shoulder jump ball in the endzone. this kid should never lose playing time to any other wr, or formation grouping like he did a couple of weeks ago
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True, but Palmer plays better with Moore and Ford though
December 5th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 2:16 pm
CODE BLACK = Cheese Heads will go down and they will go down hard
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Sure, Code Black, Code Black, Code Black, blah, blah, blah.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 2:18 pm
DHB is my new favorite Raider:
(On what the Raiders need to do to make the playoffs) – “Two words. Green Bay.”
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REAL CODE BLACK right there
December 5th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
Are those accurate transcription…Maybe someone should tell Huellywood that Boss is the TE and Moss is a defensive lineman and he has a hamstring injury and Didn’t play…”VERY DISAPPOINTED”……
December 5th, 2011 at 2:20 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 2:17 pm
We play our 1st complete game of the year and beat the Packers 34-24
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Gonna hafta pound the rock & keep rogers on the pine to keep the cheese to 24 points
December 5th, 2011 at 2:20 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 2:16 pm
CODE BLACK = Cheese Heads will go down and they will go down hard
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Sure, Code Black, Code Black, Code Black, blah, blah, blah.
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It sounds lame coming out of a fags mouth so no wonder you guys don’t say it
December 5th, 2011 at 2:21 pm
maniacon Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 2:20 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 2:17 pm
We play our 1st complete game of the year and beat the Packers 34-24
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Gonna hafta pound the rock & keep rogers on the pine to keep the cheese to 24 points
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Hue will get the troops ready for the game n Cheeseheads will down..
December 5th, 2011 at 2:22 pm
Alright Code Black c u guys later stay away from lame trolls
December 5th, 2011 at 2:22 pm
# mcfadden20. Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 2:17 pm
DHB VINDICATED!!!!
There should be no doubt that dhb is the best wr on this team. he is by far the most consistent threat and only needs the ball thrown his way more often. Ford is brittle, and has had the drops, moore has been wildly inconsistent.
DHB is catching everything thrown his way, and finally they looked him up on a back shoulder jump ball in the endzone. this kid should never lose playing time to any other wr, or formation grouping like he did a couple of weeks ago
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True, but Palmer plays better with Moore and Ford though
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then it is folly on palmers part, DHB needs to eat and eat big. he is tough to bring down catches the ball well in traffic and runs like the wind. in fact palmer under threw a deep pass to him while he was streaking down the middle of the field. could have been a td!!!
December 5th, 2011 at 2:22 pm
If the Raiders don’t show up on Sunday, Arron Rodgers and the Green Bay Packers will totally embarass them.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:23 pm
CODE BLACK IS IN FULL EFFECT TIL FURTHER NOTICE!!!!!!
December 5th, 2011 at 2:23 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 2:22 pm
# mcfadden20. Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 2:17 pm
DHB VINDICATED!!!!
There should be no doubt that dhb is the best wr on this team. he is by far the most consistent threat and only needs the ball thrown his way more often. Ford is brittle, and has had the drops, moore has been wildly inconsistent.
DHB is catching everything thrown his way, and finally they looked him up on a back shoulder jump ball in the endzone. this kid should never lose playing time to any other wr, or formation grouping like he did a couple of weeks ago
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True, but Palmer plays better with Moore and Ford though
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then it is folly on palmers part, DHB needs to eat and eat big. he is tough to bring down catches the ball well in traffic and runs like the wind. in fact palmer under threw a deep pass to him while he was streaking down the middle of the field. could have been a td!!!
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I don’t know maybe just their rythem is not there
December 5th, 2011 at 2:23 pm
860Todd Christensen Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 2:23 pm
CODE BLACK IS IN FULL EFFECT TIL FURTHER NOTICE!!!!!!
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Amen , CODE BLACK
December 5th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
bj raji will own satele, the run fgame will go nowhere. look for green bay to stack the box and bring the heat until palmer proves that he can deliver the goods and avoid back breaking turnovers.
miami stacked the box and killed us, no reason why gb wont do the same thing
December 5th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
L8er guys… CODE BLACK
December 5th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 2:18 pm
DHB is my new favorite Raider:
(On what the Raiders need to do to make the playoffs) – “Two words. Green Bay.”
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I thought this was the best comment I have seen from a raider after a loss in my life. 27 years old but STILL i have seen a lot of losses lol.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:25 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
bj raji will own satele, the run fgame will go nowhere. look for green bay to stack the box and bring the heat until palmer proves that he can deliver the goods and avoid back breaking turnovers.
miami stacked the box and killed us, no reason why gb wont do the same thing
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Need both Moore and Ford healthy then we can do damage through air..
December 5th, 2011 at 2:25 pm
Yeah GB has 3 fat boys to clog the middle. We need Taiwan to get some pitches outside. he can fly past their front 7.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
L8er guys… CODE BLACK
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Blah, blah, blah blah, blah, blah……………
December 5th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
CorkOnTheNFL Steve Corkran
#Raiders coach Hue Jackson said he doesn’t expect RB Darren McFadden to miss rest of the season. No timetable for his return yet.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
“expect” that means mcfadden aint coming back this week.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
raiderinparadise Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 2:18 pm
DHB is my new favorite Raider:
(On what the Raiders need to do to make the playoffs) – “Two words. Green Bay.”
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I thought this was the best comment I have seen from a raider after a loss in my life. 27 years old but STILL i have seen a lot of losses lol.
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24 here n have seen my fair share of losses as well, but CODE BLACK will b back, believe me we’re just a few steps closer
December 5th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
L8er guys… CODE BLACK
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Blah, blah, blah blah, blah, blah……………
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Are you Sandusky44?
December 5th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
# mcfadden20. Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 2:25 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
bj raji will own satele, the run fgame will go nowhere. look for green bay to stack the box and bring the heat until palmer proves that he can deliver the goods and avoid back breaking turnovers.
miami stacked the box and killed us, no reason why gb wont do the same thing
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Need both Moore and Ford healthy then we can do damage through air..
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this is an excuse and is not acceptable. Murph chaz and DHb are plenty good enough to keep the passing game going, palmer must play better than he has. stop leading receivers out of bounds on intermediate sideline throws, and floating those soft helium balls into double and triple coverage.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
24 goin on 12
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mcfadden20. Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
24 here
December 5th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
238.beach Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
Fingers,
Correct. The defense has been inconsistent all season. Thanks to McClain, the defense was off the whole game yesterday.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
bj raji will own satele, the run fgame will go nowhere. look for green bay to stack the box and bring the heat until palmer proves that he can deliver the goods and avoid back breaking turnovers.
miami stacked the box and killed us, no reason why gb wont do the same thing
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everyone has stacked the box and we’re 7 and 5
December 5th, 2011 at 2:30 pm
46.mcfadden20. Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 2:18 pm
DHB is my new favorite Raider:
(On what the Raiders need to do to make the playoffs) – “Two words. Green Bay.”
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REAL CODE BLACK right there
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Founder of Code Black agrees…like it!
December 5th, 2011 at 2:30 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
Are you Sandusky44?
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shut up dumbass, and go Code BlACK YOURSELF.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:30 pm
I can sum up what happened to the Raiders yesterday in three words:
South Beach Diet…
December 5th, 2011 at 2:30 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
# mcfadden20. Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 2:25 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
bj raji will own satele, the run fgame will go nowhere. look for green bay to stack the box and bring the heat until palmer proves that he can deliver the goods and avoid back breaking turnovers.
miami stacked the box and killed us, no reason why gb wont do the same thing
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Need both Moore and Ford healthy then we can do damage through air..
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this is an excuse and is not acceptable. Murph chaz and DHb are plenty good enough to keep the passing game going, palmer must play better than he has. stop leading receivers out of bounds on intermediate sideline throws, and floating those soft helium balls into double and triple coverage.
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Holy sh!t, trollbot is outta control!
December 5th, 2011 at 2:31 pm
dont look now but romac curry and DHb are the best players on the team at this moment.
yes missle mike is a bit out of control at times, but you have to love him laying out pass catchers in the middle of the field, he got clay, bowe and one more earlier a bronco at that
December 5th, 2011 at 2:31 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
# mcfadden20. Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 2:25 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
bj raji will own satele, the run fgame will go nowhere. look for green bay to stack the box and bring the heat until palmer proves that he can deliver the goods and avoid back breaking turnovers.
miami stacked the box and killed us, no reason why gb wont do the same thing
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Need both Moore and Ford healthy then we can do damage through air..
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this is an excuse and is not acceptable. Murph chaz and DHb are plenty good enough to keep the passing game going, palmer must play better than he has. stop leading receivers out of bounds on intermediate sideline throws, and floating those soft helium balls into double and triple coverage.
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He can do better with them too but you have to b blind to say Moore and Ford are not better than Murph, CHaz n House n say Mcfadden isnt better than Bush
December 5th, 2011 at 2:31 pm
“brownie”
Can you tell me your thoughts immediately following Seymour’s sending off?
December 5th, 2011 at 2:31 pm
Hey, Coach, the Seymour’s ejection happened 5 yards behind miami’s line of scrimmage, literally 15 yards away from the ball….YES….They were standing and not on the ground….You got to PAY the piper…..
December 5th, 2011 at 2:32 pm
Hmmmmmmmm
Lee, Jordy Nelson, Driver, Finley! … how do we cover these guys?
December 5th, 2011 at 2:32 pm
this is an excuse and is not acceptable. Murph chaz and DHb are plenty good enough to keep the passing game going, palmer must play better than he has. stop leading receivers out of bounds on intermediate sideline throws, and floating those soft helium balls into double and triple coverage.
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guess we shoulda picked up Troy Smith right? Or Garrard? Or Mcnabb?
December 5th, 2011 at 2:32 pm
Krappy, you all rested up for a big week of hustling up listings, doing Broker’s Tours and moving some property?
Ha, didn’t think so!
December 5th, 2011 at 2:32 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 2:30 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
Are you Sandusky44?
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shut up dumbass, and go Code BlACK YOURSELF.
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Did you forget to take your medicines?
December 5th, 2011 at 2:32 pm
Barnes – on why hes so dumb
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I doubt banes could answer this question for you.
I don’t think he is cerebral enough to understand it…
December 5th, 2011 at 2:34 pm
Can somebody tell me what this fuktard is asking me ?
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Blackmamba_20 Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 2:31 pm
“brownie”
Can you tell me your thoughts immediately following Seymour’s sending off?
December 5th, 2011 at 2:34 pm
I honestly think McFadden is done and would be IR’d if we weren’t in a playoff push. They are holding onto a very thin chance that he could be healthy in another month.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:34 pm
Lee, Jordy Nelson, Driver, Finley! … how do we cover
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we have the talent to do it:
Routt Lito DVD CJ Huff. The Real Raiders will show up this game hopefully we have enough healthy playmakers to win
December 5th, 2011 at 2:34 pm
Thec07 Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 2:32 pm
Barnes – on why hes so dumb
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I doubt banes could answer this question for you.
I don’t think he is cerebral enough to understand it…
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Those stupid penalties need to stop , it could have been a different game if had scored a TD in the first half
December 5th, 2011 at 2:34 pm
Raiderinparadise Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 2:25 pm
Yeah GB has 3 fat boys to clog the middle. We need Taiwan to get some pitches outside. he can fly past their front 7.
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With the O line constructed as is, bullying big physical D lines and pounding the rock between the tackles is not likely.
Speed to the edge of the D is paramount, we lack that right now.
Hue tried to use Murphy to stretch the D a couple of times on reverses, but that type of stuff is just stop gap bs.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:35 pm
Mista, I believe he is asking you how many bottles of champagne you uncorked following Seymour’s ejection….
December 5th, 2011 at 2:36 pm
Those stupid penalties need to stop , it could have been a different game if had scored a TD in the first half
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Is someone still kicking him in the A$$?….dumb fck…
December 5th, 2011 at 2:36 pm
83.Thec07 Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 2:32 pm
Barnes – on why hes so dumb
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I doubt banes could answer this question for you.
I don’t think he is cerebral enough to understand it…
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haaaaaaaaa
December 5th, 2011 at 2:36 pm
Thec07 Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 2:36 pm
Those stupid penalties need to stop , it could have been a different game if had scored a TD in the first half
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Is someone still kicking him in the A$$?….dumb fck…
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Crackhead
December 5th, 2011 at 2:37 pm
I really think Taiwan Jones will get a lot of touches if healthy
December 5th, 2011 at 2:37 pm
83.Thec07 Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 2:32 pm
Barnes – on why hes so dumb
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I doubt banes could answer this question for you.
I don’t think he is cerebral enough to understand it…
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“scratches head, and lunges forward”
December 5th, 2011 at 2:37 pm
How in the hell do the Raiders come out flat, down the playoff stretch?
December 5th, 2011 at 2:37 pm
# inonewordraider Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 2:32 pm
this is an excuse and is not acceptable. Murph chaz and DHb are plenty good enough to keep the passing game going, palmer must play better than he has. stop leading receivers out of bounds on intermediate sideline throws, and floating those soft helium balls into double and triple coverage.
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guess we shoulda picked up Troy Smith right? Or Garrard? Or Mcnabb?
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those guys arent receivers, but are receivers that are healthy are good enough to be productive. we need better play at qb.
teams are betting that palmer is damaged goods and cant beat the stacked box. We won in chicago with outstanding play on special teams and defense, facing a qb that is worse than ours. that wont be good enough to beat green bay. the qb will have to make plays and avoid bone headed turn overs.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:37 pm
raiderinparadise Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 2:37 pm
I really think Taiwan Jones will get a lot of touches if healthy
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But the guy can’t block to save his life
December 5th, 2011 at 2:38 pm
Thec07 Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 2:36 pm
Those stupid penalties need to stop , it could have been a different game if had scored a TD in the first half
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Is someone still kicking him in the A$$?….dumb fck…
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At least one of those flags was complete BS. And dude didn’t false start at all!
December 5th, 2011 at 2:39 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 2:37 pm
# inonewordraider Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 2:32 pm
this is an excuse and is not acceptable. Murph chaz and DHb are plenty good enough to keep the passing game going, palmer must play better than he has. stop leading receivers out of bounds on intermediate sideline throws, and floating those soft helium balls into double and triple coverage.
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guess we shoulda picked up Troy Smith right? Or Garrard? Or Mcnabb?
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those guys arent receivers, but are receivers that are healthy are good enough to be productive. we need better play at qb.
teams are betting that palmer is damaged goods and cant beat the stacked box. We won in chicago with outstanding play on special teams and defense, facing a qb that is worse than ours. that wont be good enough to beat green bay. the qb will have to make plays and avoid bone headed turn overs.
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I doubt JC could have led us up n down the field with his Arm when running game faltered
December 5th, 2011 at 2:40 pm
I am in awe………. Oh how we lose control…….. http://raiderchaos.blogspot.com/2011/12/wellthere-goes-our-control.html
December 5th, 2011 at 2:40 pm
I do not like tod haley however, how he did gaither was classic. Guy sbs for starter for one play, gets a false start penalty comes out of the game, and is cut the following day….
Coach Jackson should do something similiar to dumb fcks like banes, and satele…
They make a mistake put them on the bench….
Banes took money off the table all by himself…
December 5th, 2011 at 2:41 pm
Thec07 Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 2:40 pm
I do not like tod haley however, how he did gaither was classic. Guy sbs for starter for one play, gets a false start penalty comes out of the game, and is cut the following day….
Coach Jackson should do something similiar to dumb fcks like banes, and satele…
They make a mistake put them on the bench….
Banes took money off the table all by himself…
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Except his team isnt playing for anything right now, so he can do anything he wants to do ……
December 5th, 2011 at 2:41 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 2:37 pm
raiderinparadise Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 2:37 pm
I really think Taiwan Jones will get a lot of touches if healthy
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But the guy can’t block to save his life
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etiher can Bush, at least Taiwan could slip out for a check down and take it 50 yards.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:41 pm
CODE BLACK *****Later RAIDER NATION
December 5th, 2011 at 2:41 pm
i think we will see lots of 2 receiver pass patterns, because we will need to max protect against green bays pressure fronts. this means there will be 1-1 opportunities down the field. If palmer is sharp we may have a punchers chance, if not we are toast.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:42 pm
J Hill Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
but I have noticed that when Wiz was in at Center with Hoyer playing, it opened up bigger holes…especially in the Houston game!
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Been that way since the 2nd preseason game.
Wiz at C and Heyer at LG is a MUCH more physical Oline.
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If everyone can see this including myself, why can’t HuJack see it. What is this allegiance he has to “Sammy” Satele & Cooper Carlisle. It bad enough that we’ve got Barnes at RT but with Satele & Carlisle in there were are very weak in the middle. We need to move wiz to center, Heyer to LG, Barksdale or BCampbell to RG and whoever is not the RG move to RT – probably Barksdale. HuJack needs to expedite the development of BCampbell. Either get him game ready or show him the door. He’s an unknown commodity right now. He should by now be in sink or swim mode. Pay him & play him or move him & lose him. Just get it done.
On the D side of the equation, it’s time to seriously change to a 3-4 defense for next year.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:42 pm
after jasoup leaves do we get a compensatory pick?
December 5th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
Oh, no I didnt celebrate its sad to see a washed up overpaid fool not be able to control himself.
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autopalm77 Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 2:35 pm
Mista, I believe he is asking you how many bottles of champagne you uncorked following Seymour’s ejection….
December 5th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 2:41 pm
i think we will see lots of 2 receiver pass patterns, because we will need to max protect against green bays pressure fronts. this means there will be 1-1 opportunities down the field. If palmer is sharp we may have a punchers chance, if not we are toast.
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Seriously you have nothing else to talk about?
every post is Palmer this n Palmer that .. you forgot there are 52 other players on our team too?
December 5th, 2011 at 2:44 pm
Romonowski is pissed off today.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:44 pm
ON A LIGHTER NOTE…..So after 25 years of not having a drink of alcohol, I jumped off the wagon yesterday…NOT A GOOD IDEA….!!!…Try and look on the bright side of yesterday’s embarrassing loss and realize we still have a great community of loyal Raiders fans who can exchange ideas and talk Raider football…Of course, we all take some enjoyment in bashing silly scotty sully, so I thought I would repost some anecdotal humor to give everyone a laugh…I thought these were pretty funny but I was in a drunken stupper….Hope you enjoy as much as i did….AP77…..
Which one of those goofy looking, depraved, degenerate, homeless, senile, incompetent, unemployed, state sponsored, eternally single, erectally dysfunctional, medicated, alcoholic and perverted individuals is silly scotty sully….!!!!The winner gets an all expense trip(You pay) to Pine Cove Tavern to meet silly scotty sully himself live and in person, all 5′3” of him…
http://youtu.be/Is9NLQkX4zo
DISCLAIMER……
All relatives and actual acquaintances of silly scotty sully are prohibited from entering this contest…The fairly hot chick knows which one is silly scotty sully so if you know her you are prohibited from entering….Of course, I am prohibited from entering as i have already been to silly scotty sully’s favorite hangout and I won’t be going back…..I did leave some vomit for him near the popcorn machine…Waiting and hour and a half for that COWARD to show up in that putrid smelling place was all my constitution could take……
Good luck and remember…..Don’t forget to check in next week at this time to play….Which one of those goofy looking, depraved, degenerate, homeless, senile, incompetent, unemployed, state sponsored, eternally single, erectally dysfunctional, medicated, alcoholic and perverted individuals is silly scotty sully….!!!!
December 5th, 2011 at 2:44 pm
84.MistaBrown Says:
Can somebody tell me what this fuktard is asking me ?
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Wow Brownie,
One day you ask me to never stop posting,
Now you aggresive an insulting,
Fcktard ????? …. Brownie your so silly, go back to rolling around the floor.. K
December 5th, 2011 at 2:44 pm
raiderinparadise Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 2:37 pm
I really think Taiwan Jones will get a lot of touches if healthy
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only back that can block with a schit is tonga….
everyone else is smoke and mirrors…
On passing downs where you need to pickup a blitzing LB, put tonga in, he can hit not chip the pass rusher coming up the middle on sateles A$$…
Or put in one of your blocking TE’s…
anything but reece, mbush, or TJ…Even DMAC is suspect…
December 5th, 2011 at 2:44 pm
# mcfadden20. Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 2:39 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 2:37 pm
# inonewordraider Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 2:32 pm
this is an excuse and is not acceptable. Murph chaz and DHb are plenty good enough to keep the passing game going, palmer must play better than he has. stop leading receivers out of bounds on intermediate sideline throws, and floating those soft helium balls into double and triple coverage.
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guess we shoulda picked up Troy Smith right? Or Garrard? Or Mcnabb?
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those guys arent receivers, but are receivers that are healthy are good enough to be productive. we need better play at qb.
teams are betting that palmer is damaged goods and cant beat the stacked box. We won in chicago with outstanding play on special teams and defense, facing a qb that is worse than ours. that wont be good enough to beat green bay. the qb will have to make plays and avoid bone headed turn overs.
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I doubt JC could have led us up n down the field with his Arm when running game faltered
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not sure why you brought him up, but he did win even when the running game faltered, and the pass protection was spotty.
lets hope palmer can at least approach the standard set by our fallen leader, otherwise this team will go straight to hell in a bungle like collapse for the ages
December 5th, 2011 at 2:46 pm
CorkOnTheNFL Steve Corkran
Coach Jackson says WR Chaz Schilens (foot) is day to day and that he thinks Schilens will be OK for the Packers game.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
CorkOnTheNFL Steve Corkran
Coach Jackson also is confident about DT John Henderson and TE Kevin Boss being able to play vs. the Packers. Both are day to day.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:49 pm
So I went back and looked at this West Coast to East Coast road trip and vice versa.
This season, West Coast teams playing a 10am game in an East Coast time zone, are 7-7. AZ is 2-1, 49ers 3-0, Raiders 0-2
East Coast teams playing 1pm game in a Western Time Zone, are 6-9.
So enough with the excuses on that.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:49 pm
only back that can block with a schit is tonga….
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reece dk riders….any objections?
December 5th, 2011 at 2:50 pm
Mista, no problem, your a true fan and your posts regarding Seymour are evident that your frustrated with his play and ethic…Hopefully some others are as well, now…He was completely out of the play when he punched Incognito and it was not a smart play…I feel he can still contribute with his leadership but it’s hard to do that when your in Massachusetts all week….Equally hard to do when your in the locker room and your team is still on the field…Past performance really means nothing after yesterday’s ROTTEN EGG……
December 5th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
Krappy, you come out flat every day of the week and you don’t see us complaining.
Flat stupid
Flat slapped around silly
Flat broke
Sorry old goat, but them’s the facts!
December 5th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
If this team doesn’t get healthy fast they will go 2-2 at best and possibly 0-4 down the stretch.
Just looked like sh!t yesterday and Chaz, Murphy, and DHB are the worst WR in the NFL.
Palmer’s QB rating was eerily reminiscent of JaMarcus Russell for 3 quarters and the WRs and O-line are a huge reason for that.
Moore, Ford, and McFadden have to get back on the field.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:52 pm
Question, what the fck happened to the no huddle????
That was working, why scrape it????
December 5th, 2011 at 2:53 pm
HuJack needs to expedite the development of BCampbell. Either get him game ready or show him the door. He’s an unknown commodity right now
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I think Bruce Campbell is a pretty known commodity right now.
He stinks, is not better than Cooper Carlisle, and is the 8th out of 8th O-lineman on the team.
The next play call Bruce Campbell is going to here will sound like this:
“Hey Campbell, go slap on some Michelin’s on Bay 4, ASAP!!”
December 5th, 2011 at 2:53 pm
TRUST ME WHEN I TELL YOU…..THERE ARE NO MORE INACTIVES AS OF YESTERDAY…..MESSAGE WAS RECIEVED LOUD AND CLEAR……!!!!!
December 5th, 2011 at 2:54 pm
Campbell has a 84 passer rating in 6 starts, 5 sacks.
Palmer has a 77 passer rating in 5 starts, 13 sacks.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:54 pm
I just want an honest evaluation of Mcfaddens current health status.. Not this he say/she say
December 5th, 2011 at 2:54 pm
What I mean by that is Chaz, Murphy, and DHB as a GROUP are the worst in the NFL.
Individually with better WRs on the field they can make plays.
But put those 3 together and its SH!T SOUP
December 5th, 2011 at 2:54 pm
i dont believe anything hue says on injuries anymore….
December 5th, 2011 at 2:55 pm
Chaz, Murphy, and DHB are the worst WR in the NFL.
Palmer’s QB rating was eerily reminiscent of JaMarcus Russell for 3 quarters and the WRs and O-line are a huge reason for that.
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Man I can’t go with that….
The Oline has gien up 17 sacs in 4 games…
11 the previous 8…there in is the problem…
December 5th, 2011 at 2:55 pm
Campbell had training camp and full off season and pre season. Palmer had 2 days of practice before Hue ignorantly put him in a game.
Whats your point KK munster?
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KoolKell Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 2:54 pm
Campbell has a 84 passer rating in 6 starts, 5 sacks.
Palmer has a 77 passer rating in 5 starts, 13 sacks.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:56 pm
# KoolKell Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 2:54 pm
Campbell has a 84 passer rating in 6 starts, 5 sacks.
Palmer has a 77 passer rating in 5 starts, 13 sacks.
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to this point it has been a down grade, but hopefully palmer can get his at together and be a suitable replacement
December 5th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
JFB, appreciate your humor, but truth be told, there are short yardage plays he could have been brought in for as a blocking back or tight end eligable plays …..ANYTHING…To have him languishing on the sidelines speaks volumes……And it may have nothing to do with his ability…..
December 5th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
Come on guys…stop with the JC/ Palmer comparisons! JC is not coming back…and unless Palmer gets hurt down the stretch (knock n wood, I hope not) that is the only way JC sees the field again!
December 5th, 2011 at 2:58 pm
JFB,
If DVD and Lito were playing instead on MM34 and Gio, I might see your point on Campbell.
If we had kept Hagan instead of signing Housh, maybe I’d see your point.
If Wiz was starting at C instead of Satele and Heyer was starting at LG …..
Plenty of questionable things going on with the roster to conclude that Campbell is a bust. Hue has his guys, and that’s pretty obvious.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:59 pm
# Thec07 Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 2:55 pm
Chaz, Murphy, and DHB are the worst WR in the NFL.
Palmer’s QB rating was eerily reminiscent of JaMarcus Russell for 3 quarters and the WRs and O-line are a huge reason for that.
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Man I can’t go with that….
The Oline has gien up 17 sacs in 4 games…
11 the previous 8…there in is the problem…
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you must take into account the different style qb play. Campbell is mobile and often avoided sacks and escaped the pocket to extend plays and throw down field. palmer is a statue and couldnt escape the rush if his life depended on it.
same o-line different qb, hence the difference in sack totals.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:59 pm
130.MistaBrown Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 2:55 pm
Campbell had training camp and full off season and pre season. Palmer had 2 days of practice before Hue ignorantly put him in a game.
Whats your point KK munster?
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KoolKell Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 2:54 pm
Campbell has a 84 passer rating in 6 starts, 5 sacks.
Palmer has a 77 passer rating in 5 starts, 13 sacks.
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Good point brownie,
Hows the view down there.
December 5th, 2011 at 3:00 pm
hue doesnt expect mcfadden to miss the rest of the season? what is he gonna play…against the dischargers, in a meaningless game?
December 5th, 2011 at 3:00 pm
# hwnrdr Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
Come on guys…stop with the JC/ Palmer comparisons! JC is not coming back…and unless Palmer gets hurt down the stretch (knock n wood, I hope not) that is the only way JC sees the field again!
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good point, why not just evaluate palmer based on what he does?
December 5th, 2011 at 3:01 pm
131.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 2:56 pm
# KoolKell Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 2:54 pm
Campbell has a 84 passer rating in 6 starts, 5 sacks.
Palmer has a 77 passer rating in 5 starts, 13 sacks.
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to this point it has been a down grade, but hopefully palmer can get his at together and be a suitable replacement
Ok, let me ask you this…if JC was still there, with the defenses that the team has faced the last 3 weeks, and the oline regressing (maybe due to better pass rush)…do you think he would have done better? The answer is we all would not know…i liked JC and respect him and give him much props for getting us to 8-8 and 4-2 prior to getting hurt, but who knows how he would have reacted/played? Palmer is our QB now…I’m backing him because he is the QB!
December 5th, 2011 at 3:01 pm
Well, Palmer’s passer rating is only 77 and he’s taking quite a few sacks.
December 5th, 2011 at 3:02 pm
jc is hands down not antwhere near as good a qb as palmer
December 5th, 2011 at 3:03 pm
Ok, on to Green Bay! I think we can beat them, but they know how to pull off wins…I wish our team can do this…
They’re O has a slow start/bad day, they’re D steps up and vice versa…D was probably at its worst yesterday, but Rodgers knows how to pull a rabbit out of his arse!
December 5th, 2011 at 3:06 pm
# hwnrdr Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 3:01 pm
131.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 2:56 pm
# KoolKell Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 2:54 pm
Campbell has a 84 passer rating in 6 starts, 5 sacks.
Palmer has a 77 passer rating in 5 starts, 13 sacks.
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to this point it has been a down grade, but hopefully palmer can get his at together and be a suitable replacement
Ok, let me ask you this…if JC was still there, with the defenses that the team has faced the last 3 weeks, and the oline regressing (maybe due to better pass rush)…do you think he would have done better? The answer is we all would not know…i liked JC and respect him and give him much props for getting us to 8-8 and 4-2 prior to getting hurt, but who knows how he would have reacted/played? Palmer is our QB now…I’m backing him because he is the QB!
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i dont understand why any criticism of palmer leads to jc?
I dont think the o-line has regressed, i think the qb cant avoid the rush, so we have suddenly noticed more of the shortcomings on the line.
December 5th, 2011 at 3:06 pm
WHERE IN THE FUKK WERE YOU GUYS IN DEFENSE OF MCCLAIN WHEN EVERY TOOTHLESS,INBREED WHITE SUPREMICIST IN THE UNITED STATES WAS BASHING THIS YOUNG MAN…..??? NOW YOU SHOW UP BASHING PALMER….ZERO CREDIBILITY…..
December 5th, 2011 at 3:07 pm
oK CAMPBELL HAD:
MCFADDEN
MOORE
FORD
EVERYBODY !!!! THE TEAM WAS BETTER NOT CAMPBELL
December 5th, 2011 at 3:07 pm
Mistic1 must elated by the wave of the future taking form in Tim Tebow.
A duel threat option at QB, who doesn’t turn it over and is winning games in the NFL.
How come you aren’t giving us a bunch of I told you so’s with Tim Tebow?
December 5th, 2011 at 3:07 pm
I’m still wondering how many times did Aaron Curry have to get burned by Devon Bess before Mr. Chuck B realized that it wasn’t a good idea for Aaron Curry to be covering Devon Bess.
Offseason wish list;
New D-Coordinator
December 5th, 2011 at 3:09 pm
AutoPalm77,
While I would like to see what Bruce Campbell could do in any situation, I remember laughing my azz off and posting on here when he was brought in the Buffalo game in a goalline situation.
He came in for one play, and didn’t even barely get out of his stance, and the end just ran right around him.
Thankfully, Hue called the play to the complete other side, and Bush barreled in from 1 yard.
But if you can find the replay, watch Campbell. It is almost funny if it weren’t so sad.
December 5th, 2011 at 3:09 pm
Looking ahead, ASU MLB Vontez Burfect and All American Oregon CB Cliff Harris may be available in the 3rd round due to some uhh, well, questionable behavior both on and off the field this year. May be time to roll the dice on either or both come April considering our lack of picks early on.
December 5th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
BlkMamba why are you trolling me as if you are Seymour Bush’s twin brother?
December 5th, 2011 at 3:11 pm
Yes on Harris, but not in the 3rd round. We could use a punt returner.
No on Burfict. He really isn’t that good, and is a major headcase. 3rd best LB on his own team.
December 5th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
Brownie
Considering the negative light you seem to repetitively portray Seymour in I thought it a legitimate question..
You chose respond like a petulant child,
Im not trolling you, i just asked you a question !!
December 5th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
5 minutes ago – by Eric Gilmore – Jackson: Loss to Miami didn’t affect Raiders’ ‘psyche’
Hue Jackson said the “psyche” of his team is still “very strong,” despite Sunday’s 34-14 loss at Miami. “This is a team that’s 7-5 and still in first place of the AFC West, OK? Obviously, we share it with somebody now. That’s to our doing. And if we want to change that, we need to get back to winning. It’s just that simple.” Raiders RapidReports
December 5th, 2011 at 3:13 pm
The Raiders will be Teblowed out of the playoffs.
December 5th, 2011 at 3:14 pm
Campbell was schlepped off for a 4th round pick.
Palmer cost a 1st and a 2nd.
All you need to know about each’s place in the NFL QB hierarchy.
Soup will be lucky to start another 15 NFL games.
December 5th, 2011 at 3:14 pm
JFB,You comment tells the story….Week 2 he gets one play and I’ll accept your explanation and rationale as being 100% correct….Now, fast forward to week 13…He has not been able to be given instruction on how to block in the subsequent 11 weeks….???….I find that hard to believe and I am sure you agree with my rationale….
December 5th, 2011 at 3:14 pm
# Just Fire Baby Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 3:07 pm
Mistic1 must elated by the wave of the future taking form in Tim Tebow.
A duel threat option at QB, who doesn’t turn it over and is winning games in the NFL.
How come you aren’t giving us a bunch of I told you so’s with Tim Tebow?
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im not a tebow fan at all.
However i am thankful that he is proving once and for all you can win playing an option based offense.
imagine if the nfl had built an offense around kordell stewart or brad smith, or tommie frazier.
i have always thought that the entire anti option hype in the nfl was a bogus way to keep brothas from playing qb
December 5th, 2011 at 3:14 pm
Krappy’s diapers will be Teblowed off his wrinkled rear end.
December 5th, 2011 at 3:15 pm
mcclain is not too shy when he goes to alabama is he.
December 5th, 2011 at 3:15 pm
Blkmama,
I dont put Seymour in a negative light he does that to himself. Did I swing at Incognito? Did I swing at Rothlisberger? Did I hit Brady late week 2? Do I jump off sides on 3rd and 3 giving the other team a 1st down?
Of course the answer to these are all no therefore you are a troll nipping at my ankles like Peymour Bish.
December 5th, 2011 at 3:16 pm
Go root for the broncos the krappy, you add nothing to this community anyway….Take your mop and potato peeler with you just like you did in the Navy….DD 214…….
December 5th, 2011 at 3:16 pm
141.olinesux Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 3:02 pm
jc is hands down not antwhere near as good a qb as palmer
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for this team in 2011….thats a damn lie
December 5th, 2011 at 3:17 pm
# autopalm77 Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 3:06 pm
WHERE IN THE FUKK WERE YOU GUYS IN DEFENSE OF MCCLAIN WHEN EVERY TOOTHLESS,INBREED WHITE SUPREMICIST IN THE UNITED STATES WAS BASHING THIS YOUNG MAN…..??? NOW YOU SHOW UP BASHING PALMER….ZERO CREDIBILITY…..
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cant defend the kid without the facts. if he really put a gun to someones head it cant be defended
December 5th, 2011 at 3:17 pm
1 minute ago – by Eric Gilmore – Jackson taking ‘a stand’ and backing McClain
Hue Jackson said that after talking to LB Rolando McClain and gathering information, he believes he’s innocent of the four misdemeanor charges he faces in Decatur, Ala., and doesn’t warrant a suspension. “If I find out differently, if I’ve been led down the other brick road, then I will adjust accordingly. At some point, I’ve got to take a stand, and I’m taking a stand behind my player and this football team and organization.” Raiders RapidReports
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wow, hue is in the wrong here. He shouldn;t even answer those questions and delcine to comment. but he lets his mouth go.
December 5th, 2011 at 3:18 pm
Autopalm77 Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 3:16 pm
Go root for the broncos the krappy, you add nothing to this community anyway….Take your mop and potato peeler with you just like you did in the Navy….DD 214…….
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Fk you mfkr, cross-posting troll.
December 5th, 2011 at 3:18 pm
153.raiderinparadise Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
5 minutes ago – by Eric Gilmore – Jackson: Loss to Miami didn’t affect Raiders’ ‘psyche’
Hue Jackson said the “psyche” of his team is still “very strong,” despite Sunday’s 34-14 loss at Miami. “This is a team that’s 7-5 and still in first place of the AFC West, OK? Obviously, we share it with somebody now. That’s to our doing. And if we want to change that, we need to get back to winning. It’s just that simple.” Raiders RapidReports
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sounds good…lets win in GB
December 5th, 2011 at 3:19 pm
KK Munster has his depends in a knot.
Go ahead and take the rest of the day off KK you can sweep the barbershop first thing in the A.M
December 5th, 2011 at 3:19 pm
P.O.S
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KoolKell Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 3:13 pm
The Raiders will be Teblowed out of the playoffs.
December 5th, 2011 at 3:20 pm
He has not been able to be given instruction on how to block in the subsequent 11 weeks???
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Not up to Hue’s standard apparently.
No reason what’s so ever he shouldn’t get some run in these blowouts.
I just don’t see how one can go from a healthy scratch in year 2, to a starting caliber player in year 3.
Look around the league, and try to find some G’s who never played at all their first two years, and are now solid.
December 5th, 2011 at 3:21 pm
Mystic1 I own you because I told you when the season started and you were slobbering all over Kim Newtons jock that Andy Dalton would do well.
Now what!!!!!!
So is Newton or Dalton having a better rookie season?
Lets vote!
December 5th, 2011 at 3:21 pm
This is one time I agree 100% with Mistabrown
“P.O.S
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KoolKell Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 3:13 pm
The Raiders will be Teblowed out of the playoffs.”
December 5th, 2011 at 3:21 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 3:16 pm
141.olinesux Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 3:02 pm
jc is hands down not antwhere near as good a qb as palmer
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for this team in 2011….thats a damn lie
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cmapbell had the luxury of a 100% healthy team,
mcfadden, moore, ford …. run game was #1 in league, o-line was better …..
Palmer has had one month with team and looks better than campbell who been here 2 years, 2 camps and never once ran a no-huddle
December 5th, 2011 at 3:22 pm
Krappy, only another week to go until your next allowance check.
In the meantime, try not to hurt yourself driving that shiny red corvette around town.
December 5th, 2011 at 3:22 pm
2 minutes ago – by Eric Gilmore – Still no word on McFadden’s return
RB Darren McFadden has missed five straight games with a sprained foot, and there is still no target date for his return, but Hue Jackson said he expects to have him back sometime this season. “I think he’ll be back, I really do. When that is, I don’t have an answer.” Raiders RapidReports
December 5th, 2011 at 3:22 pm
Mista is killin today….again
December 5th, 2011 at 3:23 pm
Misty eyes….If your capable of any kind of educated deduction or reading for that matter, check my posts from this past week….I got the facts….Did you make any calls or do any research to obtain any information regarding Mcclain….NO….Did you speak out in his defense when he was labeled an addict or thug…NO….That’s the last time you;ll every get a response from me you RACIST…….Now go whack up the 6 cents I sent to joker and sully…..Hey, it’s a even 3 way split……
December 5th, 2011 at 3:23 pm
So you dumb mfkrs are mad at me because Teblow is ahead of us in the division, and we play Green Bay, next week.
Stupid mfkrs.
December 5th, 2011 at 3:24 pm
172.raiderinparadise Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 3:21 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 3:16 pm
141.olinesux Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 3:02 pm
jc is hands down not antwhere near as good a qb as palmer
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for this team in 2011….thats a damn lie
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cmapbell had the luxury of a 100% healthy team,
mcfadden, moore, ford …. run game was #1 in league, o-line was better …..
Palmer has had one month with team and looks better than campbell who been here 2 years, 2 camps and never once ran a no-huddle
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excuses….palmer is at fault for sitting home and not playing….he hasnt outplayed JC thus far…this is so inaccurate…its a wash with those two
December 5th, 2011 at 3:24 pm
KK Munster, dont you have some combs to disinfect ?
December 5th, 2011 at 3:24 pm
I give Soup a lot of flack, but you got to give this guy credit for how he got hurt.
I mean look around at the rest of our walking wounded.
-D-Mac makes a catch, is softly tackled, jogs off the field, and than is out for half the season.
-Ford makes a beautiful 50 yard catch, than isn’t seen for a month.
-CJ37, Moore, MM34……all “nicked” at practice that caused them to miss time.
-Taiwan Jones MIGHT play, when he is at 75-80% by his call.
$hit, at least Soup got hurt like a man, diving, trying to pick up a big first down and getting his collarbone snapped. And unlike Mike Vick, he is traveling with the team, helping out any way he can, why fully knowing he will be shown the door eventually.
All these other guys are a bunch of ninnies!!
December 5th, 2011 at 3:24 pm
raiderinparadise Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 3:07 pm
oK CAMPBELL HAD:
MCFADDEN
MOORE
FORD
EVERYBODY !!!! THE TEAM WAS BETTER NOT CAMPBELL
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My point exactly.
With those guys healthy this team has a shot at a deep playoff run.
Without them this is an 8-8 0r 7-9 team.
December 5th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
Mistic,
Your argument since you been on this blog has been color of QB, not performance. You chose the stats to make your argument and pick and choose any response from any one who comments against your feeble argument.
Let’s see, maybe Palmer has more sacks when he is playing due to the change in offensive scheme.
So hear is my argument for you to pick apart. Palmer has more ability than JC. The pass patterns are being opened up or stretched longer for deeper pass patterns. Palmer also can read a defense and he can progress to three different looks for receivers, hence less check downs more sacks. How many check downs has Palmer made, versus JC.
JC a compatible QB, has the skill set of many good QB’s but lacks the pedigree to be in the same breath of Rodgers, Brees, Manning, and Brady. Palmer is slightly below those guys, and will get better.
JC was traded for a fourth round pick, a more highly visible QB would be traded for a higher value or not even traded. Palmer was traded for two first round picks, the difference is playmaking ability.
So for you to compare his five games to JC is not realistic and like comparing Hanie in Chicago to Cutler, no comparison.
We don’t know how the Raiders offense has changed with Palmer, but we can see that JC could not have done or the coaching staff didn’t think he could transitition in to a hurry up offense that Palmer currently is doing right now.
Now pick and chose what you want, your argument has no merit until we see Palmer with a off season and OTA’S and preseason, then come at me or those who you want to challenge, to compare and contrast the two.
Remember that was Palmer’s fifth game, JC had the pre season to work with the receiver and gain trust and chemistry.
Palmer has had five different receivers in five games and it takes time to work out speed, patterns and location of ball in various routes.
Palmer reads defenses better, that’s a fact, that’s why after only five games we can no-huddle, never say that with JC.
December 5th, 2011 at 3:27 pm
“Mista is killin today….again”
Killin himself by making illogical statements and looking like a buffoon in doing so.
The guy clearly has a man crush on JC…he has a hidden agenda I am not buying it.
What happened to “Hue and I are in lock step”
My how quickly that faded!
December 5th, 2011 at 3:27 pm
not impressed with palmer. he’s good for @ least 1 turnover a game. he can blame the receivers all he wants, but he show inaccuracy & happy feet all day yesterday…
December 5th, 2011 at 3:28 pm
Imo this us the best thing that could of happened to this team and in perfect timing. They to me where overconfident being ahead in the division. They know no they have to play there buts off every play every second in a game, that this is serious time. Maybe this will wake this team up the talent is there they just need to execute. Who knows this loss could be a blessing to this season. Time for talk is over.
December 5th, 2011 at 3:28 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 3:23 pm
So you dumb mfkrs are mad at me because Teblow is ahead of us in the division, and we play Green Bay, next week.
Stupid mfkrs.
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Angry black man in the house! Hide your women and children!
December 5th, 2011 at 3:29 pm
MistaBrown Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 3:15 pm
Blkmama,
I dont put Seymour in a negative light he does that to himself. Did I swing at Incognito? Did I swing at Rothlisberger? Did I hit Brady late week 2? Do I jump off sides on 3rd and 3 giving the other team a 1st down?
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No, but when Janikowsky hit 6 of 6 you took credit for it you delusional POS. Can you say cuckoo, cuckoo…
December 5th, 2011 at 3:29 pm
Palmer was balied out on the 3rd and 28 INT he threw.
They called the illegal contact on a guy, who didn’t even touch anyone.
Refs kept the game closer for us. Could have been 27-0 at the half.
December 5th, 2011 at 3:29 pm
oh crap…now we got people coming out of the wood to tell us Jason Campbell is better for us than Carson Palmer? Wow SMH.
December 5th, 2011 at 3:29 pm
666,
you ever have a football comment you cross-posting piece of schit?
December 5th, 2011 at 3:30 pm
182.Raider Dell Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
Mistic,
Your argument since you been on this blog has been color of QB, not performance. You chose the stats to make your argument and pick and choose any response from any one who comments against your feeble argument.
Let’s see, maybe Palmer has more sacks when he is playing due to the change in offensive scheme.
So hear is my argument for you to pick apart. Palmer has more ability than JC. The pass patterns are being opened up or stretched longer for deeper pass patterns. Palmer also can read a defense and he can progress to three different looks for receivers, hence less check downs more sacks. How many check downs has Palmer made, versus JC.
JC a compatible QB, has the skill set of many good QB’s but lacks the pedigree to be in the same breath of Rodgers, Brees, Manning, and Brady. Palmer is slightly below those guys, and will get better.
JC was traded for a fourth round pick, a more highly visible QB would be traded for a higher value or not even traded. Palmer was traded for two first round picks, the difference is playmaking ability.
So for you to compare his five games to JC is not realistic and like comparing Hanie in Chicago to Cutler, no comparison.
We don’t know how the Raiders offense has changed with Palmer, but we can see that JC could not have done or the coaching staff didn’t think he could transitition in to a hurry up offense that Palmer currently is doing right now.
Now pick and chose what you want, your argument has no merit until we see Palmer with a off season and OTA’S and preseason, then come at me or those who you want to challenge, to compare and contrast the two.
Remember that was Palmer’s fifth game, JC had the pre season to work with the receiver and gain trust and chemistry.
Palmer has had five different receivers in five games and it takes time to work out speed, patterns and location of ball in various routes.
Palmer reads defenses better, that’s a fact, that’s why after only five games we can no-huddle, never say that with JC.
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Dell…Palmer has to quit turning it over so damn much…thats my only problem with him….his arm and risk taking is better than JC’s for sure ubt for 2011 season i see them both as a wash due to the circumstances…..one guy turns it over and is slow as hell while the other one lacks guts to throw in tight spaces and cant slide to save his life
December 5th, 2011 at 3:30 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 3:22 pm
Mista is killin today….again
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Killing himself? We have all been wiping our asses with him all day. Again.
December 5th, 2011 at 3:30 pm
Hue better hurry up and lock in JC for the next 5 years. (sarcasm)
December 5th, 2011 at 3:31 pm
186.Raider Ray Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 3:28 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 3:23 pm
So you dumb mfkrs are mad at me because Teblow is ahead of us in the division, and we play Green Bay, next week.
Stupid mfkrs.
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Angry black man in the house! Hide your women and children!
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Come on man
December 5th, 2011 at 3:31 pm
If Seymour doesn’t get suspended, that will lend credence to my belief that Suh was suspended more harshly because he did that during the NFL’s 2nd biggest showcase, Turkey day games.
If Suh waited a week to do that, he would have been suspended only 1 game, or not at all.
Seymour punched a guy, on the tail end of a game nobody was watching. That will help his cause.
December 5th, 2011 at 3:31 pm
And no, krappy, eddie muster looking bleeding heart, people aren’t mad about anything you said about tebow…..You add nothing, now like your drunk buddy olegranddadzerozero says……Get ya mutherfukking shine box……..
December 5th, 2011 at 3:31 pm
“Palmer reads defenses better, that’s a fact, that’s why after only five games we can no-huddle, never say that with JC.”
Just on that one single fact alone he is light years ahead of JC.
Palmer can read a defense and make an audible at the LOS quickly. Which enables him to run the hurry up efficiently.
Palmer was not the problem yesterday we got man handled at the LOS on both sides of the ball and lets be real here if JC was our QB yesterday we would have been shut out.
December 5th, 2011 at 3:32 pm
jmcclain Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 3:28 pm
Imo this us the best thing that could of happened to this team and in perfect timing. They to me where overconfident being ahead in the division. They know no they have to play there buts off every play every second in a game, that this is serious time. Maybe this will wake this team up the talent is there they just need to execute. Who knows this loss could be a blessing to this season. Time for talk is over.
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This is what I said after Buffalo and Denver losses.
Could hold true again.
Gotta get hot and stay hot. Beat opponents in the trenches.
We don’t have the toys and cohesiveness to finesse our way to Ws. If we’re not physical, we don’t win.
December 5th, 2011 at 3:32 pm
Isnt Mistic that guy who only likes black QBs? That’s like someone who only likes Adam Sandler movies.
December 5th, 2011 at 3:32 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 3:13 pm
The Raiders will be Teblowed out of the playoffs.”
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Sadly …. there is some truth to that comment at this point. They own the tie-breaker.
They only have one game left they could lose: Patriots
@ buffalo maybe MAYBE buffalo could win. tough place to travel to that time of year.
kc and chi are wins.
We win out and finish 11-5 we would be good to win it, plus a wildacrd possibility.
9-10 wins, you leave a chance to not make it.
December 5th, 2011 at 3:32 pm
I think Boss has the hip pointer, He put Jarvis Moss as the injuried Raider. Moss did not play. We nad all hands on deck for the Green bay game.
December 5th, 2011 at 3:32 pm
whether jc or cp…hue is the main issue…in my view in 2011 its been a wash with those two
December 5th, 2011 at 3:33 pm
we got man handled at the LOS on both sides of the ball
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FACT!!!!
As Hue mentioned, they did to us the same thing they did the year before in Oakland. They owned us at the LOS and we still can’t solve Bess.
December 5th, 2011 at 3:33 pm
DHB and Chaz are plenty good enough to move the ball. TJ Housh is the waste of a roster spot.
DMAC will be as injury proned as Chaz Schilens. DMAC has averaged 9 carries a gm. He is explosive but not dependable.
The GB and Detroit gms will determine if the heavy price paid for C Palmer was worth it for 2011. The Raiders will need to win on the arm of the qb. That’s why they got him. Time to step up.
The defense is a raggedy useless group. Need to show some m’fn pride this wknd.
No excuses Nation. The Raiders have more talent (with the injuries) than the Broncos. Losing to Tim Tebow and the Broncos should make us ill. Throwing aaway a playoff gift with shoddy play! Any thing less than a playoff is really unacceptable!
Coach’em up Hue!
December 5th, 2011 at 3:34 pm
Dell…Palmer has to quit turning it over so damn much…thats my only problem with him….his arm and risk taking is better than JC’s for sure ubt for 2011 season i see them both as a wash due to the circumstances…..one guy turns it over and is slow as hell while the other one lacks guts to throw in tight spaces and cant slide to save his life
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As far as I can tell, it seems Palmers INTs mostly come when the Raiders are getting their asses handed to them. I’ll forgive him for that.
December 5th, 2011 at 3:34 pm
nah jc is really that bad…he misses high and outside on all deep passes but i will give him the stronger arm comparison
December 5th, 2011 at 3:34 pm
KK
Was I talking to you?
I have been here 7 years and all that time I have seen you in here and you have seen me.
I have no reason to hide behind multiple monikers I have always been Silverandblack666 and I will always be so shut it!
December 5th, 2011 at 3:35 pm
197.Silverandblack666 Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 3:31 pm
“Palmer reads defenses better, that’s a fact, that’s why after only five games we can no-huddle, never say that with JC.”
Just on that one single fact alone he is light years ahead of JC.
Palmer can read a defense and make an audible at the LOS quickly. Which enables him to run the hurry up efficiently.
Palmer was not the problem yesterday we got man handled at the LOS on both sides of the ball and lets be real here if JC was our QB yesterday we would have been shut out.
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Naw doubt that…highly doubt that
December 5th, 2011 at 3:35 pm
shut out ot not…we were pitiful…those 14 pts meant nothing even palmer said it
December 5th, 2011 at 3:35 pm
Campbell has a 84 passer rating in 6 starts, 5 sacks.
Palmer has a 77 passer rating in 5 starts, 13 sacks.
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you’re seriously incuding the 3 picks palmer threw against KC or even the 3 he threw against Denver? Forget the debate I’m a Raider fan if my qb is black white brown yellow or from fu#kin Al Qaeda
December 5th, 2011 at 3:36 pm
TRANSLATION……”I liked the ASS kicking so muCH last year I figured I’d let em do it again”…….Why bother to make adjustments……
December 5th, 2011 at 3:37 pm
“hue is the main issue…in my view in 2011 its been a wash with those two”
So if Hue finishes 9-7 he is only one game better than a Cable coached team and that’s what you are saying?
Yes I think I know what you are saying….
December 5th, 2011 at 3:37 pm
Forget the debate I’m a Raider fan if my qb is black white brown yellow or from fu#kin Al Qaeda
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Al Qaeda? Jamarcus may have been a terrorist.
December 5th, 2011 at 3:38 pm
Dell…Palmer has to quit turning it over so damn much…thats my only problem with him….his arm and risk taking is better than JC’s for sure ubt for 2011 season i see them both as a wash due to the circumstances…..one guy turns it over and is slow as hell while the other one lacks guts to throw in tight spaces and cant slide to save his life
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B,
Your take is off base. Palmer has been with the team for 7 weeks, and to build chemistry with receivers takes time and reps.
I’m surprised at some of you who think a QB can get on the field and immediately work up to the performance like Rodgers in GB.
Rodgers has developed over time with reps a chemistry that translates into their current record and why they are an offensive juggernaut. It’s reps, timing and working day in and day out with the same receivers.
Maybe Palmer is throwing INT’S due to bad timing, or routes run to short or long. Until we all know let’s give him the benefit of the doubt and see what he does after this season and a off season to compare and contrast.
Palmer didn’t play well yesterday, and both lines got punched in the mouth, we were bullied yesterday big time.
December 5th, 2011 at 3:38 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 3:35 pm
shut out ot not…we were pitiful…those 14 pts meant nothing even palmer said it
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And he should have but in reality, it does mean something.
Gotta take SOMETHING positive out of that game to GB.
I think we’re gonna play mad.
I think we’re gonna abuse Rodgers.
I like how this game is shaping up.
Maybe this was a good thing. No more candy @$$ efforts. Sh;t like this could not just cost us an L in the W-L column, it could cost us the PLAYOFFS.
You owe this to RAIDER NATION you a$$holes, get it done!!!
I want the G MFs that were still putting in a complete effort to get the workload.
December 5th, 2011 at 3:38 pm
206.olinesux Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 3:34 pm
nah jc is really that bad…he misses high and outside on all deep passes but i will give him the stronger arm comparison
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jc is not bad…thats a lie…for us he was not at all…stop with the lies
December 5th, 2011 at 3:38 pm
Palmer was not the problem yesterday we got man handled at the LOS on both sides of the ball….why is that so hard to believe?
December 5th, 2011 at 3:38 pm
COde black is on fire
December 5th, 2011 at 3:39 pm
213….That’s the point, but your comment about hiding woman and children was not appropriate….
December 5th, 2011 at 3:39 pm
Yeah, the INT yesterday was dumb. But give the guy a break. He is missing his best weapons and barely been with the team at all. Palmer is so much better than Campbell.
December 5th, 2011 at 3:39 pm
From the beginning, I stated not to rush to judgement on McClain. Innocent until a jury of his peers rules otherwise. I said he had a right to play.
December 5th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
The season isn’t over… but if it were:
Get a GM to minimize Hue’s workload and possible distractions. Reggie McKenzie seems like the front-runner. Strong credentials and has ties to the organization.
Get a proven DC who can keep games close and doesn’t put the offense in a bad position. Del Rio and Spagnuolo might be options (Spagnuolo could be a very good fit if Waufle sticks around). Dennis Thurman will be in the running again, as I’m sure Winston Moss and Kevin Greene will be if McKenzie is the GM.
Trade TK for mid/late-round picks to get salary cap relief.
If the money is there, go hard after Mario Williams or Paul Soliai (depending on the new DC’s scheme).
Go for value at LB in free agency: Barrett Ruud, Stewart Bradley, or DeAndre Levy. Jarrett Johnson might be a good value pickup at LB, depending on scheme – versatile enough for 4-3 or 3/4, can play OLB and a little DE.
More Wimbley at RDE, more Houston at 3-tech DT (again, depending on scheme).
Re-sign Tyvon Branch and Marcel Reece, Stephon Heyer, and make a competitive offer to Michael Bush.
Continue to build up the offensive line and secondary in the draft. Find some linebacker depth, as well. Some mid/late-round prospects to keep an eye on:
DT Tydreke Powell, UNC (3-4)
CB Leonard Johnson, Iowa State (3-4)
DE Jake Bequette, Arkansas (4-5)
LB Chris Galippo, USC (5-6)
RB Marc Tyler, USC (5-6)
S Harrison Smith, Notre Dame (5-6)
Also, Khalif Barnes needs to go. The team needs to see if Barksdale or Campbell can take over at RT. Carlisle and Satele need to play like they were earlier in the season, or else those two starting spots are question marks as well. Personally, I thought the offensive line looked stronger with Wiz II at C and Heyer at LG.
December 5th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
Autopalm77 Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 3:39 pm
213….That’s the point, but your comment about hiding woman and children was not appropriate….
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Its just a joke man. Is Kell calling every one mother fkers appropriate?
December 5th, 2011 at 3:41 pm
It was 27-0 when Palmer threw that pick 6. Not 7-0 or 0-0.
He’s trying to get something done against all odds at that point. Plus (and I’ll have to take another look) what was Murphy doing on that play?
December 5th, 2011 at 3:41 pm
Regarding McClain, I don’t understand for the life of me why these black athletes feel a need to stay ghetto when they are rich as sh*t. Get the f*ck out of your bad neighborhood and never go back!
December 5th, 2011 at 3:42 pm
214.Raider Dell Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 3:38 pm
Dell…Palmer has to quit turning it over so damn much…thats my only problem with him….his arm and risk taking is better than JC’s for sure ubt for 2011 season i see them both as a wash due to the circumstances…..one guy turns it over and is slow as hell while the other one lacks guts to throw in tight spaces and cant slide to save his life
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B,
Your take is off base. Palmer has been with the team for 7 weeks, and to build chemistry with receivers takes time and reps.
I’m surprised at some of you who think a QB can get on the field and immediately work up to the performance like Rodgers in GB.
Rodgers has developed over time with reps a chemistry that translates into their current record and why they are an offensive juggernaut. It’s reps, timing and working day in and day out with the same receivers.
Maybe Palmer is throwing INT’S due to bad timing, or routes run to short or long. Until we all know let’s give him the benefit of the doubt and see what he does after this season and a off season to compare and contrast.
Palmer didn’t play well yesterday, and both lines got punched in the mouth, we were bullied yesterday big time.
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Like I said Dell due to circumstances…its a wash with those two for 2011
And i dont expect rodgers like performances…thats difficult for anyone to copy
JC doesnt have the balls to take risks like palmer which pissed me off but he wasnt tossing pick sixes and such and could move around some
Palmer chose to sit out so it wasnt like it was injury or what have you…he must take some blame….we cant excuse him….we have to win and even Hue said it starts with the QB
December 5th, 2011 at 3:43 pm
This is gonna be a loooooong week.
December 5th, 2011 at 3:43 pm
Bruce Campbell and Barksdale are so far behinfd that they can’t push Barnes and his penalties to the bench.
Satele is in for a long day in GB. Put Wiz at natural position and let Heyer hold down the LG.
No way satele even holds his ground with Raji and co.
And if the raider o-line gets abused, then that matthews kids goes wild.
Better have a m’fn plan and come ready to play. I aint tryin to hear about 2012 and all that beee essss
December 5th, 2011 at 3:43 pm
Ray, directing insults to an individual is appropriate at any time….Directing comments to a race of people is different…You clarified it as a joke….
December 5th, 2011 at 3:44 pm
I got a bad feeling that the Fudge Packers are going to set the NFL record for most points scored in a game against us this weekend, especially if our D plays like they did yesterday.
You think Matt Moore looked good against our D, wait until we roll into Lambeau, this is gonna be ugly. We need our play makers back asap because this crew we got our there right now ain’t gonna cut the cheese.
December 5th, 2011 at 3:44 pm
220.Raider Ray Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 3:39 pm
Yeah, the INT yesterday was dumb. But give the guy a break. He is missing his best weapons and barely been with the team at all. Palmer is so much better than Campbell.
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cuz he is white…right Racist Ray aka MR?
December 5th, 2011 at 3:45 pm
Palmer was not the problem yesterday we got man handled at the LOS on both sides of the ball….why is that so hard to believe?
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Because what else can they use to justify JC’s greatness? I swear the revisionists are out in force. I can see it already. If we dont make the playoffs, they’re going to proclaim that JC would have taken us to the playoff. If we make it to the first round, they would come back with JC would take us deeper. They never lose a chance to Supersize the legend of JC in Oakland.
December 5th, 2011 at 3:45 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 3:44 pm
220.Raider Ray Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 3:39 pm
Yeah, the INT yesterday was dumb. But give the guy a break. He is missing his best weapons and barely been with the team at all. Palmer is so much better than Campbell.
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cuz he is white…right Racist Ray aka MR?
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No, but I don’t see many black QBs tearing up the league this year.
December 5th, 2011 at 3:47 pm
Cam Newton has a lot of talent, but he is all flash and dash. That Tebow kid may not be much of a passer, but he has what it takes to win.
December 5th, 2011 at 3:47 pm
The truth is that Palmer is better than JC taking everything into consideration, but…I may be the only one who feels this way, but I miss alot of the things JC brings to the table.
Has Carson ran for ANY first downs yet? He seems to bail when a rush is on. It seems like everytime opposing D lines up ready to rush him big it turns out to be a lost play; either Palmer goes down or he rushes a bad throw.
JC was good at avoiding those devastating sacks that Palmer all too often seems to run into. JC could get that first down for you on occasion.
The other thing I miss is the sense of security we had with JC. Say what u want but he didn’t make big mistakes that kill a team. He was a stable, solid game “manager”. I didn’t worry everytime he dropped back that it was going the other way. I miss that. I don’t see it in Palmer.
That said, Palmer has not had the luxury of having 1st string WR’s to work with or DMAC.
Palmer can make that laser pass downfield though. I need to see what he can do with actual starters in there.
December 5th, 2011 at 3:48 pm
I don’t know Cam Newton is doing pretty dang good.
December 5th, 2011 at 3:48 pm
233.Raider Ray Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 3:45 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 3:44 pm
220.Raider Ray Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 3:39 pm
Yeah, the INT yesterday was dumb. But give the guy a break. He is missing his best weapons and barely been with the team at all. Palmer is so much better than Campbell.
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cuz he is white…right Racist Ray aka MR?
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No, but I don’t see many black QBs tearing up the league this year.
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In other words cuz he is white…go figure Racist Ray
December 5th, 2011 at 3:49 pm
Raider Ray, you have to be joking, I’d take Cam over Teblow any day of the week.
December 5th, 2011 at 3:49 pm
235.djohnnyg Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 3:47 pm
The truth is that Palmer is better than JC taking everything into consideration, but…I may be the only one who feels this way, but I miss alot of the things JC brings to the table.
Has Carson ran for ANY first downs yet? He seems to bail when a rush is on. It seems like everytime opposing D lines up ready to rush him big it turns out to be a lost play; either Palmer goes down or he rushes a bad throw.
JC was good at avoiding those devastating sacks that Palmer all too often seems to run into. JC could get that first down for you on occasion.
The other thing I miss is the sense of security we had with JC. Say what u want but he didn’t make big mistakes that kill a team. He was a stable, solid game “manager”. I didn’t worry everytime he dropped back that it was going the other way. I miss that. I don’t see it in Palmer.
That said, Palmer has not had the luxury of having 1st string WR’s to work with or DMAC.
Palmer can make that laser pass downfield though. I need to see what he can do with actual starters in there.
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Like i been saying…for 2011 its a wash
December 5th, 2011 at 3:49 pm
Packers 35 Raiders 20
December 5th, 2011 at 3:50 pm
Blame the fckn league for this loss. Making Oakland go back east to play a team with 10 days rest. Pure bussschit if you ask me.
December 5th, 2011 at 3:50 pm
238.raiderjhawk Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 3:49 pm
Raider Ray, you have to be joking, I’d take Cam over Teblow any day of the week.
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The White Knights of the New Mexico KKK chapter doesnt take kindly to your talk…boy
December 5th, 2011 at 3:51 pm
Raiderjhawk Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 3:49 pm
Raider Ray, you have to be joking, I’d take Cam over Teblow any day of the week.
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Tebow is a winner. He is tough, works hard, and is humble. He reminds me a lot of Larry Bird.
December 5th, 2011 at 3:51 pm
Tim Tebow is the Anti-Christ !
December 5th, 2011 at 3:51 pm
Like I said Dell due to circumstances…its a wash with those two for 2011
And i dont expect rodgers like performances…thats difficult for anyone to copy
JC doesnt have the balls to take risks like palmer which pissed me off but he wasnt tossing pick sixes and such and could move around some
Palmer chose to sit out so it wasnt like it was injury or what have you…he must take some blame….we cant excuse him….we have to win and even Hue said it starts with the QB
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B,
Raider history says for a fact that the three super Bowl winning QB’s didn’t move around in the pocket. Plunkett never moved well, and stats will prove that point and Stabler in his early days ran and realized he would’t survive in that mode and that knee injury also curtailed any thoughts on his part of running out of the pocket.
What about Manning, Brady, Brees, I don’t see many roll outs, movement or boot legs with those three and they have won Super Bowls between them.
Moving around is calculated, but I’ll I know is most QB’S will stay in the pocket are for the most part successful and winners.
December 5th, 2011 at 3:51 pm
Wait a sec. If there is one thing that’s consistent with MR and his wide array of sockpuppets and personalities, it’s that he is flag waving liberal in all its extremes.
Inferring Raider Ray is MR doesn’t jive imo.
December 5th, 2011 at 3:52 pm
That’s alright method, I don’t take to kindly to them wasting valuable oxygen.
December 5th, 2011 at 3:53 pm
MR seems like a pot smoking pansy.
December 5th, 2011 at 3:54 pm
Tebow is a ho-mo who hasn’t even had his cherry popped yet.
GREAT. WHITE. HYPE.
December 5th, 2011 at 3:54 pm
jc overthrowing deep receivers is a lie?
December 5th, 2011 at 3:55 pm
HEY! At least Palmer knows how to slide!
December 5th, 2011 at 3:55 pm
raiderjhawk Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 3:54 pm
Tebow is a ho-mo who hasn’t even had his cherry popped yet.
GREAT. WHITE. HYPE.
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Well, I wish Palmer had his record.
December 5th, 2011 at 3:56 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 3:13 pm
The Raiders will be Teblowed out of the playoffs.
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You know something. If we finish 10-6 and Denver wins it at 10-6, God bless them. If they go 9-2 the final 11 games, they deserve to go.
December 5th, 2011 at 3:57 pm
Dell,
You are exactly right on your QB analysis. At the end of the day, the QB is like a point guard. You need a point guard to distribute the ball. That is why a scoring PG like AI never won a ring. A QB must be a throwing QB first before scrambling come into play. He can scramble to buy time but he still got to throw. Big Ben and Rodgers can run but it is still their ability to throw that got them the rings.
December 5th, 2011 at 3:58 pm
This isn’t talk about the Raiders when it reaches the color of someone’s skin…..Later…..
December 5th, 2011 at 3:58 pm
We won’t be 10-6, we’ll be 9-7. We lose the next two and win the last two. We’ll see .500 again this season.
December 5th, 2011 at 3:58 pm
Only thing I’ll give Palmer over JC is i’d actually have more confidence on the road vs bmore and pitt in playoffs cuz he has shown ability to beat those guys in his career…thats what im holding out hope for
December 5th, 2011 at 3:59 pm
Andy Dalton is better than Teblow and Kim Newton!
December 5th, 2011 at 3:59 pm
We have had terrible injuries to our offense, and our defense has been mediocre. We are 7-5. If DMC, Jacoby, and Denarius go with the team to Green Bay, then I will believe in 8-5. If not, 7-6 here we come!
December 5th, 2011 at 3:59 pm
250.olinesux Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 3:54 pm
jc overthrowing deep receivers is a lie?
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That he is bad….no the deep ball thing is spot on and would piss me off…dont even understand it still
December 5th, 2011 at 3:59 pm
I think JC had the advantage of passing to backs and making throws to guys to move the chains in addition to the deep throws.
Seems like Hue thinks we can go 5 and 7 steps with Palmer and just sling it all the time.
Historically, JC takes WAY more sacks than Palmer. O Line held up better for JC and the playcalling was better.
Seems like Hue thinks Palmer is just that good. Well, I think he’s better, but he’s being exposed longer waiting for routes to develop. He can move within the pocket pretty well but we need some help with the playcalling, IMO.
I think Hue should call games as is he had JC still starting.
December 5th, 2011 at 4:00 pm
I would like Andy Dalton if he wasn’t a red head. I don’t trust their kind.
December 5th, 2011 at 4:01 pm
Detroit is garbage. They won’t come to our house and win. No way!
December 5th, 2011 at 4:01 pm
If we end up 9-7 we all have to admit that Hue is only one game better than a Cable coached team.
Those are not the kind of results we were after when Hue was hired!
December 5th, 2011 at 4:02 pm
bottom-line palmer is not worth potentially 2 1st round draft picks. he was a #1 overall draft pick who’s had an up & down career, had major injuries & never won a playoff game. bust
December 5th, 2011 at 4:02 pm
Every see the movie The Passion of the TEBOW ? Don’t worry Tebow will get betrayed for some cash and they will LOSE !
December 5th, 2011 at 4:02 pm
Raiders will beat Detroit, KC, and Chargers.
December 5th, 2011 at 4:02 pm
Nobody had any problems with Red Heads before south park came out with that episode. Showing your maturation level there raider ray.
December 5th, 2011 at 4:03 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 4:01 pm
If we end up 9-7 we all have to admit that Hue is only one game better than a Cable coached team.
Those are not the kind of results we were after when Hue was hired!
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Well, put it this way: you think we would be 8-8 last year with Cable still calling plays and running the O?
Me neither.
I’m out.
Be good.
December 5th, 2011 at 4:04 pm
beach Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 4:01 pm
Detroit is garbage. They won’t come to our house and win. No way!
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I hope your right but our D doesn’t give me much hope.
December 5th, 2011 at 4:05 pm
Do any of you know how much you can get per month for a welfare baby?
December 5th, 2011 at 4:05 pm
Where in the world is Darren McFadden? he needs to rub some dirt on his poon hole and get back to practice.
December 5th, 2011 at 4:05 pm
We will lose to GB , but will win out the rest of the season ! 10- 6 Wild card BABY !
December 5th, 2011 at 4:05 pm
Raiderjhawk Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 4:02 pm
Nobody had any problems with Red Heads before south park came out with that episode. Showing your maturation level there raider ray.
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Never seen South Park. I just don’t like the Irish.
December 5th, 2011 at 4:06 pm
I’m redheaded and I’m not irish.
December 5th, 2011 at 4:07 pm
Do any of you know how much you can get per month for a welfare baby?
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Ask your wife/sister that question phaggot ! lol
December 5th, 2011 at 4:07 pm
“Every see the movie The Passion of the TEBOW ? Don’t worry Tebow will get betrayed for some cash and they will LOSE !”
Good one I am LMAO!
December 5th, 2011 at 4:07 pm
Manhandled at the LOS = loss a bad loss
December 5th, 2011 at 4:08 pm
Thec07 Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 2:55 pm
Chaz, Murphy, and DHB are the worst WR in the NFL.
Palmer’s QB rating was eerily reminiscent of JaMarcus Russell for 3 quarters and the WRs and O-line are a huge reason for that.
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Man I can’t go with that….
The Oline has gien up 17 sacs in 4 games…
11 the previous 8…there in is the problem…
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It’s not ALL on the O-line. I recall numerous whiffs by Bush & Jones when trying to block a blitzer. Bush can’t block to save his life. He’s beyond terrible. He either can’t or won’t take a pass rusher head on and block him. Instead he drops his head taking his eyes off of the target and then tries to cut block the rusher – he misses EVERY time & our QB ends up on the ground.
December 5th, 2011 at 4:10 pm
Jesus Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 4:07 pm
Do any of you know how much you can get per month for a welfare baby?
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Ask your wife/sister that question phaggot ! lol
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Jesus Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 4:07 pm
Do any of you know how much you can get per month for a welfare baby?
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No, I just heard about this scam where people just keep pumping out babies and the grandparents become foster parents and collect a ton of money in welfare checks. I just figured some of you guys probably were on welfare and had illegitimate children.
December 5th, 2011 at 4:10 pm
If we can’t run the ball, We can’t win.
Look at our W’s and L’s.
Thats the game.
December 5th, 2011 at 4:11 pm
“Manhandled at the LOS = loss a bad loss”
Why is that simple all encompassing explanation not good enough for people in here?
December 5th, 2011 at 4:11 pm
Who else here thinks the Raiders need to go all out this offseason for Paul Soliai. Dude was a big reason the Phins stopped the run yesterday. TK can be shown the door.
December 5th, 2011 at 4:12 pm
245.Raider Dell Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 3:51 pm
Like I said Dell due to circumstances…its a wash with those two for 2011
And i dont expect rodgers like performances…thats difficult for anyone to copy
JC doesnt have the balls to take risks like palmer which pissed me off but he wasnt tossing pick sixes and such and could move around some
Palmer chose to sit out so it wasnt like it was injury or what have you…he must take some blame….we cant excuse him….we have to win and even Hue said it starts with the QB
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B,
Raider history says for a fact that the three super Bowl winning QB’s didn’t move around in the pocket. Plunkett never moved well, and stats will prove that point and Stabler in his early days ran and realized he would’t survive in that mode and that knee injury also curtailed any thoughts on his part of running out of the pocket.
What about Manning, Brady, Brees, I don’t see many roll outs, movement or boot legs with those three and they have won Super Bowls between them.
Moving around is calculated, but I’ll I know is most QB’S will stay in the pocket are for the most part successful and winners.
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Very true Dell…and I agree with all that but what im saying is for the 2011 season…given all what has went on….its a wash with those two
JC didnt run alot alot but he did move some…he wasnt a Vick type obviously and his intermediate to checkdowns were solid
But lets call facts on CP shall we? 17 career pick 6’s? Yikes!
Going back to USC ive always notice that with him…i love when he dials it up and throws those darts and yes the WRs are banged up but we cannot be losing with all these expectations….AFC WEST or its a big time fail job
December 5th, 2011 at 4:12 pm
Raider Ray I am Irish and I will take a huge dump in the front seat of your cop car and then roll up the windows so you have to smell it on a hot day!
December 5th, 2011 at 4:14 pm
281.raiderinparadise Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 4:10 pm
If we can’t run the ball, We can’t win.
Look at our W’s and L’s.
Thats the game.
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Oh so qb has nada to do with it? Cant tell by some of the comments here today
December 5th, 2011 at 4:14 pm
This lady has 15 children and was living in a motel room! Ever heard of a condom lady?
December 5th, 2011 at 4:14 pm
285.Silverandblack666 Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 4:12 pm
Raider Ray I am Irish and I will take a huge dump in the front seat of your cop car and then roll up the windows so you have to smell it on a hot day!
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hahahahahahahahaha…so u giving him your version of an Irish Car bomb
December 5th, 2011 at 4:15 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3e41prVDv4&feature=related
December 5th, 2011 at 4:15 pm
B
As usual good debate, and you have valid strong points.
I’ll wait for Palmer’s body of work over a season, and hope he improves in the next seven.
December 5th, 2011 at 4:16 pm
259.beach Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 3:59 pm
We have had terrible injuries to our offense, and our defense has been mediocre. We are 7-5. If DMC, Jacoby, and Denarius go with the team to Green Bay, then I will believe in 8-5. If not, 7-6 here we come!
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Fk that we can win without those guys….time to man up and beat the odds
December 5th, 2011 at 4:17 pm
“hahahahahahahahaha…so u giving him your version of an Irish Car bomb”
Yes I think I know what you are saying…..
December 5th, 2011 at 4:18 pm
I have been a fan of 35+ years. I am getting tired of
the pervbial carrot being dangledbefore us.
It’s time to DOMINATE. We are not even close to or deserve a playoff berth based on yesterday’s sickening events.
What the Raiders did yesterday was despicable and IS a direct reflection of Coah Jackson’s inability to mutli-task- I feel the McClain incident knocked the team’s focus off track. There is NO excuse for a team to come out of the locker room looking like coma victims.
December 5th, 2011 at 4:19 pm
290.Raider Dell Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 4:15 pm
B
As usual good debate, and you have valid strong points.
I’ll wait for Palmer’s body of work over a season, and hope he improves in the next seven.
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I’m sure he will….its just a bad situation given all that has occured…ive told you over phone that if palmer doesnt turn it over and we dont pass 40 times our chances increase as far as wins and I honestly would think CP in playoffs would do better in afc than JC would numbers wise for sure
But Palmer isnt the blame here Dell…..its Hue and that damn ego….Satele and Reece really are weak links when you play a stout defense…its sad we can see this and no one can
Palmer would have a game like SD damn near weekly if Hue had those starters out there
December 5th, 2011 at 4:19 pm
We flat out got beat yesterday,in the trenches where the game is won and lost @ imo.The Dolphins opened holes for their Bush,but us we couldnt block our way out of a wet paperbag.There was no sense of urgency.Before my but was even in ny seat @ the stadium it was 6-o and the route was on and the penalties that we commit”Lawd Hammercy!!!”We didnt even put up any resistance yesterday the Dolphins took us and did what they wanted to do with us and we laid there and let them get waist deep in our rectum with both feet and just stomped and stomped.The fans were singing their Miami Dolphins anthem,chanting”Go home Raiders”Don Shula inducted the MadDog into thier ring of honor and we did nothing,nothing @ all.Fans all in the bathroom trying to Devo the urinals n sh!t,lol I saw a Raider fan get pointed out for fighting,And He Was A MIDGET showing more heart than the guys who took the field yesterday went thru the motions,got pimp slapped then came and collected a check today for doing squat.We batter get it together quick fast in a hurry because its a left handed white boy that is spearheading a Denver team and they are playing some inspired football too.So we have to decide starting today if we want it or not as far as making it into post season play.The inconsistency needs to stop,but in all honesty we are who we are.Kinda reminds me of Randy Moss we play when we want to play imo
December 5th, 2011 at 4:20 pm
Charlie Brown Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 4:11 pm
Who else here thinks the Raiders need to go all out this offseason for Paul Soliai. Dude was a big reason the Phins stopped the run yesterday. TK can be shown the door.
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He will get paid.
TK has been great this year. Drop Seymour, save big $
December 5th, 2011 at 4:21 pm
293.Oldtown Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 4:18 pm
I have been a fan of 35+ years. I am getting tired of
the pervbial carrot being dangledbefore us.
It’s time to DOMINATE. We are not even close to or deserve a playoff berth based on yesterday’s sickening events.
What the Raiders did yesterday was despicable and IS a direct reflection of Coah Jackson’s inability to mutli-task- I feel the McClain incident knocked the team’s focus off track. There is NO excuse for a team to come out of the locker room looking like coma victims.
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No excuses for not hosting home playoff game
I wouldnt give a damn if David Klingler played at QB….its time to man up…everyone…and win this fkin game in GB and run table rest of the way
December 5th, 2011 at 4:21 pm
man, there is some nasty stuff here. i’m washing my dick clean of this place.
December 5th, 2011 at 4:22 pm
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No excuses for not hosting home playoff game
I wouldnt give a damn if David Klingler played at QB….its time to man up…everyone…and win this fkin game in GB and run table rest of the way
Love the David Klinger reference…lol…
But Agreed!!! We still control our destiny! We need to win out now!!!
December 5th, 2011 at 4:22 pm
if it looks like crap and smells like crap you don’t need a press conference to tell you it tastes like crap.
December 5th, 2011 at 4:23 pm
Man would be nice to have Shaugnessy off the edge.
December 5th, 2011 at 4:23 pm
Oh and JonnyG you are correct with the Palmer/Campbell statement @ least Campbell could elude a rush and not just throw the ball up like a d@mm hot potatoe when faced with a little pressure
December 5th, 2011 at 4:23 pm
295.KRAWFDADD Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 4:19 pm
We flat out got beat yesterday,in the trenches where the game is won and lost @ imo.The Dolphins opened holes for their Bush,but us we couldnt block our way out of a wet paperbag.There was no sense of urgency.Before my but was even in ny seat @ the stadium it was 6-o and the route was on and the penalties that we commit”Lawd Hammercy!!!”We didnt even put up any resistance yesterday the Dolphins took us and did what they wanted to do with us and we laid there and let them get waist deep in our rectum with both feet and just stomped and stomped.The fans were singing their Miami Dolphins anthem,chanting”Go home Raiders”Don Shula inducted the MadDog into thier ring of honor and we did nothing,nothing @ all.Fans all in the bathroom trying to Devo the urinals n sh!t,lol I saw a Raider fan get pointed out for fighting,And He Was A MIDGET showing more heart than the guys who took the field yesterday went thru the motions,got pimp slapped then came and collected a check today for doing squat.We batter get it together quick fast in a hurry because its a left handed white boy that is spearheading a Denver team and they are playing some inspired football too.So we have to decide starting today if we want it or not as far as making it into post season play.The inconsistency needs to stop,but in all honesty we are who we are.Kinda reminds me of Randy Moss we play when we want to play imo
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Man…that seems not cool…so glad I wasnt there
December 5th, 2011 at 4:23 pm
Let’s face it, we’re not going anywhere unless we get healthy…….McFadden is a HUGE weapon to be without……..
December 5th, 2011 at 4:25 pm
301.raiderinparadise Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 4:23 pm
Man would be nice to have Shaugnessy off the edge.
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My god he sure would then seymour can sit where he belongs…the bench
December 5th, 2011 at 4:26 pm
304.PA-RAIDER Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 4:23 pm
Let’s face it, we’re not going anywhere unless we get healthy…….McFadden is a HUGE weapon to be without……..
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Man…we have won without dmac….if our trench play aint worth a damn what will dmac do?
December 5th, 2011 at 4:27 pm
300.M Lonetree Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 4:22 pm
if it looks like crap and smells like crap you don’t need a press conference to tell you it tastes like crap.
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damn right
December 5th, 2011 at 4:27 pm
So, my son want’s to build a scraper bike. He says it’s popular in the ghetto. Any of you know what this is?
December 5th, 2011 at 4:28 pm
McNabb to the chiefs? the bears? houston?
Raiders lookin to talk to randy moss?
Jeff Fischer to SD?
December 5th, 2011 at 4:28 pm
Seriously Men – How are we going to “get up” for a scary good team like Green Bay after a loss like yesterday? This team’s will, character and future will be put on the line in Green Bay this Sunday.
If we win, then there might be a chance in the playoffs, if not, then we are back to stinkin’ square one all over again. Football is about building and momentum and Green Bay is is on “Lithium, steroids, HGH, type momemtum.
I feel this is where good coaching has got to change the will and minds of the players. We are up against it for 2011. Time to hit the gorilla in the mouth and don’t back down. Time to be a true Raider.
December 5th, 2011 at 4:29 pm
Hue wont let go of his ego…play Tonga and Reece but use Tonga more at FB and let Reece do what he does best…CATCH and RUN!
Sit Satele’s ass down now…move Wiz to Center plug in Heyer at LG….lets get this show on the road dammit!
December 5th, 2011 at 4:30 pm
I guess you all don’t think much of DHB to be saying all hope is lost without Moore and Ford? Ford’s been out most of the season anyway.
Injuries are NOT the reason for this other than the losses to KC and Denver due to JC’s injury.
This team is being exposed for the crappy line play that you all gloss over year after year after year after year. And that’s both sides of the line
Here’s some news…TK and Seymour can’t play the run!
Oh, DMAC has AVERAGED 9 carries a gm since he’s been drafted. So this team should be accoustomed to others toting the rock…PERIOD! That’s the mfn fact
December 5th, 2011 at 4:31 pm
310.Oldtown Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 4:28 pm
Seriously Men – How are we going to “get up” for a scary good team like Green Bay after a loss like yesterday? This team’s will, character and future will be put on the line in Green Bay this Sunday.
If we win, then there might be a chance in the playoffs, if not, then we are back to stinkin’ square one all over again. Football is about building and momentum and Green Bay is is on “Lithium, steroids, HGH, type momemtum.
I feel this is where good coaching has got to change the will and minds of the players. We are up against it for 2011. Time to hit the gorilla in the mouth and don’t back down. Time to be a true Raider.
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Agreed oldtimer….time be men and beat the odds…overcome adversity….we been doing it all season….now we have to win out and it starts vs the champion…i dont care who plays you better get a W
December 5th, 2011 at 4:31 pm
any of you all seen that tramp old man of mine? He needs to get his ass over to the clinic and get tested. they can’t identify this rash i contracted from him. skank.
December 5th, 2011 at 4:34 pm
Code black.***
December 5th, 2011 at 4:35 pm
I’d like to see the coach allow a few fans each week into the locker room to light a fire under the players. I could think of a thousand things to say to their faces if I had the chance-I swear, I never want to feel that helpless feeling I had yesterday ever again.
If you had the chnace, what would say to the team in that setting?
December 5th, 2011 at 4:37 pm
314.Mrs. Beeecham Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 4:31 pm
any of you all seen that tramp old man of mine? He needs to get his ass over to the clinic and get tested. they can’t identify this rash i contracted from him. skank.
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Mrs. Beecham, can you find Darren McFadden, too, and beat his ass!
December 5th, 2011 at 4:37 pm
# Silverandblack666 Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 3:21 pm
Mystic1 I own you because I told you when the season started and you were slobbering all over Kim Newtons jock that Andy Dalton would do well.
Now what!!!!!!
So is Newton or Dalton having a better rookie season?
Lets vote!
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are you asking for opinion? i would take newton 100 out of 100 over dalton. newton plays on the worst team in football, dalton has far better talent around him.
newton is head and shoulder the best qb in the draft class
December 5th, 2011 at 4:39 pm
Oldtown, what the eff’ is being said at halftime? I think our defense is totally out of condition. After 12 games, I still can’t stand our defense, AT ALL!
December 5th, 2011 at 4:39 pm
Right on Beach.
December 5th, 2011 at 4:41 pm
If I were teammates of McClain, I wouldn’t have joked around and slapped his butt, I would take him out back and slap his head. He’s messing with 53 guys paychecks and reputations.
December 5th, 2011 at 4:44 pm
The Raiders need to invest in 5-7 hyperbolic chambers and get those injured wusses in them ASAP.
December 5th, 2011 at 4:48 pm
yeah, I would like to see that half time speech. Looks like it went “Lay down and die. Thanks.”
The worst play of the day was after half time.
Maybe we should skip half time.
December 5th, 2011 at 4:49 pm
Obviously, if there’s one thing you can bet your farm on is that every time HueJax opens his mouth, you can expect a major heaping serving of BS, steaming as it hits the turf.
I guess we have heard it all, and a lot of us have taken mouthfuls of that cow dung, How can one man be so full of it? That’s why he’s Hue. Bottom line, there are four games left, even Cork here predicted 2-2 for a 9-7 finish. Not bad considering it is one better than last year, and all that has happened to the Raiders this year, but that’s not what HueJax promised. At 9-7, if that, the chances of a playoff run are not good, unless the donkeys collapse. As of now, the Raiders are out of the playoffs.
Judging from what Sunday’s game showed, the chances of even 9-7 are not good, what if the Raiders do end up with a losing record? Is the Raider Nation going to continue to swallow HueJax’s BS?
Listen to John Fox and you’ll hear what a real coach sounds like, some one who knows how to make a team better than what it looks, HueJax on the other hand with a load of talent in his hands knows exactly how to coach a team to under achieve.
December 5th, 2011 at 4:55 pm
We need our playmakers. Green Bay can be beat if a) we win the time of possession, and b) we do not lose the turnover battle. Repeat that all week, Hue! All effin’ week!
December 5th, 2011 at 5:02 pm
Hue: “So Chuck, you got a better plan on defense for Green Bay?”
Chuck: “When did the league expand to Geen Bay?”
Hue: “Chuck, this is the NFL, remember?!”
December 5th, 2011 at 5:03 pm
Is it me or does Chuck B look like he ate Gary Busey?
December 5th, 2011 at 6:24 pm
Old town I would love to talk to the team tell them about the history pride and poise and never getting out physicaled maybe out scored but never out physicaled
Then we gotta kick the packers azz for the league and to save the season We r hurt but we need to play like this is our Super Bowl validate the whole season
And the defense has to be the one to shut sh&t down when the offense is getting checked defense has to hold other team to FGs until the offense can get it together we do not have a playoff caliber defense bottom line Denver apparently does. Packers got some D ballers
We got Curry Routt John Henderson a nd maybe a few others who ball out every week
December 5th, 2011 at 6:26 pm
Season on the line at Green Bay. No guarantee we beat Chargers Lions and
December 5th, 2011 at 8:27 pm
Wasbanned Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 2:54 pm
What I mean by that is Chaz, Murphy, and DHB as a GROUP are the worst in the NFL.
Individually with better WRs on the field they can make plays.
But put those 3 together and its SH!T SOUP
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And how is that going to help or even matter this season? There are no other alternatives Please exit the bandwagon anytime….Were more competitive than the last 10 years……
December 7th, 2011 at 6:19 pm
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2011 Raider Games
First: Ghostraider (exact score) Raiders 23 Broncos 20
Second: Sullivan44 Buffalo 38 Raiders 35
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Fourth: Sullivan44 Patriots 31 Raiders 14
Fifth: Fingers Raiders 24 Browns 17
Sixth: Zymurge Chiefs 28 Raiders 0 (WTF)
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Twelth: Autopalm77 Dolphins 34 Raiders 14
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Jesus Packers 35 Raiders 20
McFadden20 34-24 Raiders
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