McClain not talking, injured players’ status uncertain
By Steve Corkran
Monday, December 5th, 2011 at 12:16 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Middle linebacker Rolando McClain says he speaks only on Mondays during the season. Even then, that’s only on rare occasion. On this Monday, he declined an interview request seeking his take on his arrest last week.
“Not at all,” McClain said, when asked by this reporter if he wanted to speak.
He spent most of the media-access period in the locker room mingling with a handful of teammates and trading barbs.
McClain was arrested in Decatur, Ala., on Thursday and charged with four misdemeanors, including third-degree assault for allegedly punching a childhood friend, holding a gun to the 23-year-old’s head and then firing the gun next to his ear.
McClain posted bail on the $2,000 bond and was released Thursday afternoon. He joined his teammates in Miami on Friday night and played Sunday against the Miami Dolphins.
Raiders coach Hue Jackson said he decided to let McClain play after hearing his account of what transpired.
“The information that I have, that I gathered myself in dealing with him, is I feel that the player has an opportunity to be honest,” Jackson said after the game. “At the end of the day, there’s no question that he knows I’m disappointed with some things that occurred. And I will take care of that in-house.”
Jackson added that he will watch with keen interest how the league handles the situation. League spokesman Greg Aiello said the NFL is aware of the matter and is conducting an investigation.
“If the league decides to come down on him, then I’m going to come down on him like you’ve never seen,” Jackson said. “But I’m truly backing my player on this. I trust the things that I know.”
INJURIES UPDATE
Wide receivers Denarius Moore (foot) and Jacoby Ford (foot) said they aren’t sure whether they will be cleared to practice this week or play Sunday against the Green Bay Packers.
Ford said he was on his way in for treatment when stopped for a brief interview. He said he won’t know what’s in store for him this week until he meets with team trainers. He has missed the past three games.
Moore said he isn’t speaking about his injury “because we really don’t know yet” where it stands this week. He has missed the past two games.
“It’s super hard to sit here and watch my teammates go through what they’re going through and actually watch film, playing through good and bad,” Moore said. “It’s not always bad. It’s just something that I have to maintain and make sure I’m not pushing myself and get reinjured again. I just continue to listen to coaches and what I should do, how I should feel about going out there.”
Running back Taiwan Jones said his right hamstring is at about 75-80 percent strength, based on agility drills he performed this morning.
Given that, there’s a chance he will return to practice this week and, perhaps, play against the Packers.
Moore said he isn’t concerned about the prospect of returning for a game likely to be played in freezing weather.
“Not really because I spent my college career in pretty much the same type of weather,” Jones said. “I should be able to adapt to it pretty easily.”
It has been quite some time since the Raiders had all their key players at their disposal for a game this season. That tends to wear on the players, right offensive tackle Khalif Barnes said.
“Yeah, it can be tough, man, when you don’t have all your guys out there,” Barnes said. “But, we can’t make any excuses. There are no excuses in this business. We have guys that can step in to replace the guys who are down. We’ve shown that we can get the job done before, so there are really no excuses. We just have to go out perform and play. We just didn’t do that for 60 minutes yesterday.”
PLAYERS WORKING OUT
Defensive coordinator Chuck Bresnahan oversaw the workout of two players late this morning. Both players appeared to be linebackers.
The Raiders did not reveal the names of the players donning Nos. 44 and 47.
MCFADDEN NOT SPOTTED
Running back Darren McFadden was spotted working with a team trainer last Monday. Today, he was nowhere to be seen on the practice field or in the locker room.
Therefore, it’s anyone’s guess as to whether he has made enough progress in his rehab from a mid-foot sprain to resume practicing for the first time since Oct. 23, when he got hurt early in the game against the Kansas City Chiefs.
At this point, it’s a long-shot to envisioning McFadden playing against the Packers. He has to get back into football shape, get used to being hit again and needs ample time getting back into the flow of the offense.
The smart money says, he returns for the Raiders game against the Detroit Lions on Dec. 18. Even then, that’s far from a certainty until he shows that he can plant his right foot, make sharp cuts and hold up in full-contact situations.
JOHNSON READY TO ASSERT HIMSELF
Cornerback Chris Johnson finally got into a game Sunday after missing seven straight because of a hamstring injury. Now, he’s ready to play even more now that he feels back up to speed.
“Oh, yeah, I’m going to take my role back now,” Johnson said of the starting job he relinquished once he suffered the injury. “They wanted to do that (last week) just to see how my body would hold up because I haven’t hit anybody in probably a month. I’m ready to go.”
Lito Sheppard, Chimdi Chekwa and DeMarcus Van Dyke have started games opposite Stanford Routt during Johnson’s lengthy absence.
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December 5th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
primero
December 5th, 2011 at 12:17 pm
Exactly.
Hue said he wanted TJ in the off season but Al wanted Hagan. As soon as Al passed Hue whipped out his crank and started poking people with it.
I think Marc or Amy reeled this fool in soon after that.
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Method To My Madness Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 12:13 pm
No you dont know a damn thing if you think that cutting him wasnt the stupidest coward schit move ever by Hue….knowing damn well Al was against it
December 5th, 2011 at 12:17 pm
RAIDER NATION….
December 5th, 2011 at 12:17 pm
Fk McClain he dont need to talk.
Fk Seymour.
Fk Bres.
December 5th, 2011 at 12:18 pm
1269.MistaBrown Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
Exactly.
Hue said he wanted TJ in the off season but Al wanted Hagan. As soon as Al passed Hue whipped out his crank and started poking people with it.
I think Marc or Amy reeled this fool in soon after that.
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Method To My Madness Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 12:13 pm
No you dont know a damn thing if you think that cutting him wasnt the stupidest coward schit move ever by Hue….knowing damn well Al was against it
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No management at all
December 5th, 2011 at 12:19 pm
We need some of these playmakers back. Yesterday was abysmal…
December 5th, 2011 at 12:19 pm
Hue Jackson is a pompous fool anybody in Alameda can read this to him.
Sincerely
MistaBrown
December 5th, 2011 at 12:20 pm
Oh dont you know, we have L Murphy and Chaz Schilens we are cool on ice bro!
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JLofty Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 12:19 pm
We need some of these playmakers back. Yesterday was abysmal…
December 5th, 2011 at 12:20 pm
Hue we can meet out front of Raider Image and I will tell you to your face I dont give one Fk.
December 5th, 2011 at 12:20 pm
Jackson said during the Raiders’ bye week he had no tolerance for screw-ups who exceeded the bounds of simply blowing off a little steam during the week off.
“What I told them, most important, is one, that you represent this organization and this team and don’t do anything stupid that will cost you not to be a member of this football team,” Jackson said.
Even with no practice, the Raiders could use McClain against the Dolphins. Whatever his problems may be off the field, there hasn’t been a peep about his lack of dedication in terms of film work, and study. He may not be the playmaker people expected, but the Raiders have struggled in the games McClain missed.
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ROMAC plays and Miami rushes for 200+ yards and 2 TD’s
Hue Jackson would have been better off “sending a message” imo
We got blew out for the first 3 quarters. Embarrassed even
December 5th, 2011 at 12:21 pm
Hey Kalif, you guys didn’t do it for even one minute yesterday…
December 5th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
im sick of these guys worrying about not getting more hurt, play already thats what you are paid for…..
December 5th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
Defensive coordinator Chuck Bresnahan oversaw the workout of two players late this morning. Both players appeared to be linebackers.
The Raiders did not reveal the names of the players donning Nos. 44 and 47.
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Jon Alston?
lol
December 5th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
ROMAC plays and Miami rushes for 200+ yards and 2 TD’s
Hue Jackson would have been better off “sending a message” imo
We got blew out for the first 3 quarters. Embarrassed even
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Or playing him full time.
The in-between, off-the-bench stuff is what hurt us.
December 5th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
“Hagan is better than TJ and Murphy…raiders still havent found a guy to move chains as Hagan did….this is fact you guys cant dispute”
So true!!
Murphy has gone from a good prospect at WR to playing scared with alligator arms!
December 5th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
Hue benched JaLando for 1 play.
What a joke, either bench him the whole game or not at all. Busch league sh!t right there Hue!
December 5th, 2011 at 12:23 pm
Rest assured, Raiders CEO Amy Trask, who has been in lockstep with Jackson, was mortified by the photos which showed a smiling McClain being put into a police car. She cares deeply about how the Raiders brand is portrayed, and the McClain photo ranks among the all-time low moments.
After missing a week of practice after being excused to attend a funeral and then winding up in a police report, it’s hard to imagine McClain playing against Miami.
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Jerry Mac was right on the money with what SHOULD HAVE happened, but didn’t
December 5th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
The losses are on Hue….this team should be 9-3….no excuses at all!
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Yeah. You are right. Your genius has just overwhelmed me B. FIRE HUE JACKSON RIGHT NOW… FYI, if every team was as patient with a ROOKIE HC as you, there would be about 6 coaches in NFL history with more than 1 season under their belt.
December 5th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
well ……. there you have it. Ford will be questionable. and mcfadden will be out and moore will be doubtful
December 5th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
We need to win 3 of 4you to make playoffs
December 5th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
cheap azz foot sprain taking longer to heal then a broken collarbone….
December 5th, 2011 at 12:25 pm
Raiders middle linebacker Rolando McClain told CSNBayArea.com that he doesn’t see any reason why he shouldn’t play Sunday against the Miami Dolphins.
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JaLando = fitting!
December 5th, 2011 at 12:25 pm
Hue benched JaLando for 1 play.
What a joke, either bench him the whole game or not at all. Busch league sh!t right there Hue!
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He didn’t bench him for ANY plays you moron. We started the game defensively with 2 formations that he didn’t practice this week and wasnt included in. That isn’t a benching.
December 5th, 2011 at 12:26 pm
At this stage in the season the team doesn’t need any distractions and that’s exactly what McClain is. At least now we know more about who he really is… Takes a different kind of person to hold a gun to someone’s head and pull the trigger, even just to scare the guy. And to pose for the camera like that – wow! And I thought JaMarcus was a head case. And to think, we coulda had Sean Ellis in the second round.
December 5th, 2011 at 12:26 pm
McFadden was quoted this weekend as saying he WOULD play next week. Im going to look for a link, but I know I read it.
December 5th, 2011 at 12:27 pm
shoulda woulda coulda
December 5th, 2011 at 12:27 pm
The losses are on Hue….this team should be 9-3….no excuses at all!
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What 2 games do you think we should have won, but Hue lost for us?
December 5th, 2011 at 12:28 pm
Taiwan and moss and ford should be back. that will help.
December 5th, 2011 at 12:28 pm
Later peoples!
Go A’s!
Go Dubs!
Go Cal Bears!
Go Raiders!
December 5th, 2011 at 12:29 pm
1270.Method To My Madness Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 12:17 pm
And Hue and that monstrous ego is screwing the Raiders…Bcz, Hagan is just a part of Hue’s blunders….how about not recognizing the oline issues and sitting satele’s ass down? How about refusing to play Tonga? How about not showing halftime adjustments? The guy is fkin up terribly and you cant deny this
The losses are on Hue….this team should be 9-3….no excuses at all!
I agree except for the last sentence…we should be at least 10-2, if not 11-1…Hue making Boller throw all the time against KC was just friggen wrong!
December 5th, 2011 at 12:29 pm
That complete game we all have been looking for better come soon, or we will be complete-ly out of the playoff picture.
December 5th, 2011 at 12:29 pm
At this point, it’s a long-shot to envisioning McFadden playing against the Packers. He has to get back into football shape, get used to being hit again and needs ample time getting back into the flow of the offense.
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Thats BS, DMAC missed all of camp last year and played week 1, missed 90% of camp this year and played damn well week 1. He doesnt need weeks of practice time to get ready to play
December 5th, 2011 at 12:29 pm
When asked if he intended to play, McClain nodded his head and said, “No reason why I shouldn’t.”
“Trust me, he’s remorseful,” Jackson said, “and he should be. For the situation he put his team and his teammates in … He needs to grow and learn from this.
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Why is Hue speaking for ROMAC?
McLame seems like a real lowlife. An overrated football player and a thug with money. Why doesn’t he put on his big boy pants and apologize himself?
December 5th, 2011 at 12:29 pm
” She cares deeply about how the Raiders brand is portrayed, and the McClain photo ranks among the all-time low moments.”
I have to agree here and one has to wonder why Hue didn’t do anything about it.
Forget if he is innocent or guilty or did anything illegal at all, what he did do was give the whole organization a black eye and was caught goofing off with his hommies when he should have been at practice or studying game film or at the funeral.
He was excused to attend a funeral not play Xbox and wanna be ganagster with some backwoods thugs.
December 5th, 2011 at 12:30 pm
“But I’m truly backing my player on this. I trust the things that I know.”
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As he should!
December 5th, 2011 at 12:30 pm
18.bcz24 Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
The losses are on Hue….this team should be 9-3….no excuses at all!
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Yeah. You are right. Your genius has just overwhelmed me B. FIRE HUE JACKSON RIGHT NOW… FYI, if every team was as patient with a ROOKIE HC as you, there would be about 6 coaches in NFL history with more than 1 season under their belt.
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No cant fire him right now…fire his ass if they are cleaning out their lockers jan 2nd…aint no excuse for blowing the AFC west to fkin tim tebow…rookie coach or not is some excuse i aint using…guy wanted the job and talked alot of schit on the way…fine but you back it up patna
December 5th, 2011 at 12:30 pm
JHill, I think we should have beaten Buffalo and Denver the second time! If Boller wasn’t so bad, well, wtf? was he throwing the deep ball in the first place?
December 5th, 2011 at 12:30 pm
30.hwnrdr Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 12:29 pm
1270.Method To My Madness Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 12:17 pm
And Hue and that monstrous ego is screwing the Raiders…Bcz, Hagan is just a part of Hue’s blunders….how about not recognizing the oline issues and sitting satele’s ass down? How about refusing to play Tonga? How about not showing halftime adjustments? The guy is fkin up terribly and you cant deny this
The losses are on Hue….this team should be 9-3….no excuses at all!
I agree except for the last sentence…we should be at least 10-2, if not 11-1…Hue making Boller throw all the time against KC was just friggen wrong!
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I stand corrected! I agree Hwnrdr
December 5th, 2011 at 12:30 pm
I agree except for the last sentence…we should be at least 10-2, if not 11-1…Hue making Boller throw all the time against KC was just friggen wrong!
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So you guys believe that if we had ANYONE else coaching this team we would be 11-1?
Brilliant.
December 5th, 2011 at 12:30 pm
He isn’t a distraction for the team, but he definitely was for Hue, thus it affected the team because the gameplan wasn’t as crisp as it needed to be.
December 5th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
“Why doesn’t he put on his big boy pants and apologize himself?”
Because in his mind he did nothing wrong and Hue is supporting that kind of mentality by letting it go unpunished.
Black eye to the Raiders organization.
December 5th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
“Oh, yeah, I’m going to take my role back now,” Johnson said of the starting job he relinquished once he suffered the injury.
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That’s good to hear.
Hopefully our DC will continue to play Lito and DVD in nickel and dime packages instead of having safeties cover these WRs.
December 5th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
No, Bcz24…I’m not talking about the coach, except for the KC one! Why was Boller throwing the deep pass? And then to bring in CP when we were already down 28-0? The only good I’ve seen on that was that he got his reps in and became ready…
December 5th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
They better man up and take a deep look within themselves….fk waiting until 2012…the time is now…right Hue? You say that all the fkin time onthe commercials played here in the Bay
December 5th, 2011 at 12:34 pm
No cant fire him right now…fire his ass if they are cleaning out their lockers jan 2nd…aint no excuse for blowing the AFC west to fkin tim tebow…rookie coach or not is some excuse i aint using…guy wanted the job and talked alot of schit on the way…fine but you back it up patna
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Hue Jackson doesn’t control what Tim Tebow does.
He should have had his team better prepared for Miami, but in the end if the players don’t execute…. you can;t win, no matter what coaches do.
I think we could have been better coached at certain points of the season but how much sh;t has Hue talked?
He said he wanted to build a bully. GOOD.
He’s really backed off his self-promotion (and really, he;s been promoting the Raiders) since NE.
He got pumped when he traded for Carson. Can’t blame him.
You guys paint funny pictures sometimes.
Sounds a lot like it did after the KC loss in here.
7-5. 1st place. Quarter of the season to go. Can’t worry about what Denver or anyone else does, just have to handle business.
December 5th, 2011 at 12:34 pm
The loss snapped a three-game win streak and dropped the Raiders to 7-5 with the last quarter of the season to play with a road game against Green Bay, a home game against Detroit, a road game against Kansas City and the regular-season finale at home against San Diego
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I know a lot of people think we’ll walk all over the Chiefs & Chargers during the final 2 weeks of the season, but it just isn’t going to happen. Both games will be a dogfight and I think we need a healthy squad to compete against either team. Moore was the hero last time we faced SD. KC shut us out
9-7 will not win the AFC West the way Tim Tebow is playing …
December 5th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
Hwnrdr,
Agree with Buffalo.
KC game is the other one I was disappointed with.
December 5th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
To be clear…The D screwed up the Buffalo and the Denver game…but I have noticed that when Wiz was in at Center with Hoyer playing, it opened up bigger holes…especially in the Houston game!
December 5th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
42.J Hill Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
“Oh, yeah, I’m going to take my role back now,” Johnson said of the starting job he relinquished once he suffered the injury.
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That’s good to hear.
Hopefully our DC will continue to play Lito and DVD in nickel and dime packages instead of having safeties cover these WRs.
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CJ37…dont even know what to say….hope you ready for GB’s wideouts
December 5th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
When CP3 entered the KC game we were only down 14-0. Hue took a gamble because Boller CLEARLY wasn’t the answer that maybe CP could provide a spark and get something going. All it did was give fuel to the fire of the Palmer doubters. So yes, in retrospect. Bad move.
December 5th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
I don’t know if you guys are watching the same team I am but this team is resilient and will rebound even without the playmakers still might not be enough to beat GB but it can go either way then we’re beating the Lions who have no run game KC who has no QB and SD to sneak in the playoffs
December 5th, 2011 at 12:37 pm
Hwnrdr,
Wouldn’t you say the Buffalo and Denver losses were on Chuck B and his defense?
December 5th, 2011 at 12:37 pm
Most the media has already thrown dirt on the Raiders and crowned the Donkeys Afc west winners…. Just listening to the Nfl channel… They said were done …. I say Fk’m…
December 5th, 2011 at 12:37 pm
“So you guys believe that if we had ANYONE else coaching this team we would be 11-1?
Brilliant.”
Well if we finish 9-7 that’s only one game better than Cable…so yeah ANYONE else might do!
December 5th, 2011 at 12:37 pm
45.LA to TheBay Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 12:34 pm
No cant fire him right now…fire his ass if they are cleaning out their lockers jan 2nd…aint no excuse for blowing the AFC west to fkin tim tebow…rookie coach or not is some excuse i aint using…guy wanted the job and talked alot of schit on the way…fine but you back it up patna
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Hue Jackson doesn’t control what Tim Tebow does.
He should have had his team better prepared for Miami, but in the end if the players don’t execute…. you can;t win, no matter what coaches do.
I think we could have been better coached at certain points of the season but how much sh;t has Hue talked?
He said he wanted to build a bully. GOOD.
He’s really backed off his self-promotion (and really, he;s been promoting the Raiders) since NE.
He got pumped when he traded for Carson. Can’t blame him.
You guys paint funny pictures sometimes.
Sounds a lot like it did after the KC loss in here.
7-5. 1st place. Quarter of the season to go. Can’t worry about what Denver or anyone else does, just have to handle business.
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That’s not accurate….Hue’s BS tyrant move denver week started Tebow’s win streak….so there ya go playa
December 5th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
Ok, sorry, I thought we were down by 28 when Cp came in…
December 5th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
CJ37…dont even know what to say….hope you ready for GB’s wideouts
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Wouldn’t you say he’d have a better chance than the safeties Chuck B has been trotting out there?
December 5th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
testing….
December 5th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
wtf…
When CP3 entered the KC game we were only down 14-0.
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21-0.
Hue wanted CPs feet wet.
December 5th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
50.bcz24 Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
When CP3 entered the KC game we were only down 14-0. Hue took a gamble because Boller CLEARLY wasn’t the answer that maybe CP could provide a spark and get something going. All it did was give fuel to the fire of the Palmer doubters. So yes, in retrospect. Bad move.
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Palmers gets no heat for KC game…..Boller is awful and Hue should have had a better gameplan…3rd and 1 then he gets cute with Pryor….3rd and 6….pick six!
No Palmer gets no heat until the Denver game
December 5th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
but I have noticed that when Wiz was in at Center with Hoyer playing, it opened up bigger holes…especially in the Houston game!
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Been that way since the 2nd preseason game.
Wiz at C and Heyer at LG is a MUCH more physical Oline.
December 5th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
Hopefully our DC will continue to play Lito and DVD in nickel and dime packages instead of having safeties cover these WRs.
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With Bresh as the DCO…Who knows what the fk we will be getting…
Time to go all in on bresh as our D cant stop shat…
Coach Jackson will wack bresh at the end of the season, and we may even be switching to a 3-4 scheme like in bmore…
December 5th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
That’s not accurate….Hue’s BS tyrant move denver week started Tebow’s win streak….so there ya go playa
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Tyrant move?
Very dramatic.
I suppose you want the Ghost of Al to run the team from the grave?
December 5th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
And yes, now we have to worry about Tebow and Denver because if we end up tied with them at the end of the year, they win the divsion based on common opponents, unless they lose to KC then we’ll have a better divivion record (considering we beat both KC and SD)
December 5th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 12:37 pm
“So you guys believe that if we had ANYONE else coaching this team we would be 11-1?
Brilliant.”
Well if we finish 9-7 that’s only one game better than Cable…so yeah ANYONE else might do!
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we’re not facing the NFC west this year
December 5th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
Chuck B is working out 2 players!
December 5th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
You haters need to find another team to root for. Blaming mcclain on this loss shows that half of you are clueless. This was a complete team loss period. None of you coach a nfl team. None of you are a gm for any nfl team, your opinion on what to do with the players are what plays to run mean a damn thing. Like a post said yesterday when they win there goin to the superbowl when they lose they suck. Stick with the nation and the players are get the hell out.
December 5th, 2011 at 12:42 pm
Been that way since the 2nd preseason game.
Wiz at C and Heyer at LG is a MUCH more physical Oline.
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I think the reason you don’t see it is because
1. Hue likes Satele
2. They don’t pass protect as well with that alignment and Hue wants 5 and 7 step drops from CP3.
I would LOVE to see Hue go back into the bag and mix things up a bit v. GB.
We were rather predictable in Miami.
December 5th, 2011 at 12:42 pm
Anyways…not gonna argue the past…Hue better find a way to be the only team this year to beat GB! It can be done, but must be smart! And darnit, Seymour better not be puncing no one else…
December 5th, 2011 at 12:42 pm
63.LA to TheBay Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
That’s not accurate….Hue’s BS tyrant move denver week started Tebow’s win streak….so there ya go playa
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Tyrant move?
Very dramatic.
I suppose you want the Ghost of Al to run the team from the grave?
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Yes Tyrant move and spit on Al’s grave….yes Al can run team from grave
No its not dramatic when I said karma would get us that week and it fkin did! Bloggers even said B..you were right!
December 5th, 2011 at 12:42 pm
Chuck B, we are in the last quater of the season and we are trying guys off the street. You might as well pilfer top Defense practice squads. At least these guys have been going at it all year…
December 5th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
The Broncos and Raiders are 7-5, with four games to play. The way the Raiders played Sunday, it’s not a stretch to envision the Raiders trailing the Broncos by one game a week from today, given the Raiders play the undefeated Green Bay Packers on the road, and the Broncos play the ailing Chicago Bears
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Lets just hope Marion Barber brings his Superman cape to the game on Sunday.
the only way to beat Green Bay is to stuff the run and rush the QB. Can’t worry too much about GB’s wideouts
Packers will use the same formula New England did. Raiders will expect a dynamic passing game (finesse as ROMAC called it) and then they’ll use the ground & pound approach on us. print it
Starks, Grant, Kuhn, maybe Rodgers himself. Somebody is gonna have a big day rushing. maybe all of them
December 5th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
That is true LA, mix them around, confuse te other teams…but…
December 5th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
Like a post said yesterday when they win there goin to the superbowl when they lose they suck. Stick with the nation and the players are get the hell out.
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Exactly.
Massive knee-jerk in here with every loss.
Truth of the matter is we’re a 8-8, 9-7 kind of team with the potential at any one moment to be a 7-9 or a 11-5 kind of team depending on which team shows up.
Hopefully we finish strong and get to the playoffs and we’ll be that much better next year.
December 5th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
69.hwnrdr Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 12:42 pm
Anyways…not gonna argue the past…Hue better find a way to be the only team this year to beat GB! It can be done, but must be smart! And darnit, Seymour better not be puncing no one else…
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Naw we just pissed now…i’ll be over loss by tomorrow becuz we really gonna hve to focus on beating GB…i mean seriously focus…this team has ability for greatness and need to take that step
December 5th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
the bye week gives mcfadden ample time to recover,
Mcfadden should be fit for the Broncos game,
wait no they are saving him for the chargers,
no he should be right for the Vikings,
Mcfadden no where to be seen,
gearing towards bears game..
No sign of mcfadden probaly misses green bay
and working towrds the Lions game..
Just tell us how bad the damn thing is,
December 5th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
GB’s defense gives up big plays….we gonna need some big plays and also find a way to stop that animal Clay from getting to Palmer
December 5th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
Bloggers even said B..you were right!
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Well then say we’re gonna smash GB so you can continue you prognostication.
As the Raider Nation, we deserve the playoffs… as a team, those guys deserve the playoffs but they have to go ALL OUT to earn them.
I’d like to shock the world next week.
We seem to get up for those games more so than ones we’re ’supposed’ to win.
December 5th, 2011 at 12:47 pm
74.LA to TheBay Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
Like a post said yesterday when they win there goin to the superbowl when they lose they suck. Stick with the nation and the players are get the hell out.
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Exactly.
Massive knee-jerk in here with every loss.
Truth of the matter is we’re a 8-8, 9-7 kind of team with the potential at any one moment to be a 7-9 or a 11-5 kind of team depending on which team shows up.
Hopefully we finish strong and get to the playoffs and we’ll be that much better next year.
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This next year schit is weak…next year aint guaranteed patna….are you watching whats happening on the planet? I need now…fk 2012
December 5th, 2011 at 12:47 pm
I keep believing that Tebow’s and the Donks run is coming to a screeching holt.. still fckn waiting.
Brady will sort him out, dont know about that bears kid tho.
December 5th, 2011 at 12:48 pm
78.LA to TheBay Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
Bloggers even said B..you were right!
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Well then say we’re gonna smash GB so you can continue you prognostication.
As the Raider Nation, we deserve the playoffs… as a team, those guys deserve the playoffs but they have to go ALL OUT to earn them.
I’d like to shock the world next week.
We seem to get up for those games more so than ones we’re ’supposed’ to win.
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I agree….we need to get them becuz our season is on the line as well as guys jobs…time to man up and be professionals and try and compete for the Lombardi….must win in GB…no excuses
December 5th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
This next year schit is weak…next year aint guaranteed patna….are you watching whats happening on the planet? I need now…fk 2012
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It’s not weak, it’s reality.
Look at what GB (and Detroit, to a lesser extent) has done to carry over sucess from last year, eliminate weaknesses and improve.
I’m not mailing it in. Quite the opposite. I may be in the minority that I think we can still make a deep playoff run.
But carrying momentum with us to next year would be great.
December 5th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
Attention Khalif Barners…you POS….Clay Matthews is up next..are you ready to man up or what?
December 5th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
Someone needs to get the inside scoop on DMC!
We need him more now then ever!
December 5th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
Broncos can win out. Sadly.
Only hope is for tebow to get hurt and insert Brady Quinn.
December 5th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
Raiders need to show up in Green Bay.
December 5th, 2011 at 12:51 pm
82.LA to TheBay Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
This next year schit is weak…next year aint guaranteed patna….are you watching whats happening on the planet? I need now…fk 2012
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It’s not weak, it’s reality.
Look at what GB (and Detroit, to a lesser extent) has done to carry over sucess from last year, eliminate weaknesses and improve.
I’m not mailing it in. Quite the opposite. I may be in the minority that I think we can still make a deep playoff run.
But carrying momentum with us to next year would be great.
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dammit we carried enough into this year after going 8-8 last year! 2011 is the time not 2012
You not in minority..i know we can cause damage in playoffs if hue lets go of his ego! take satele out for good…make sure tonga is on the field more often…thats just a start
December 5th, 2011 at 12:51 pm
DOLPHINS RUSH PAST RAIDERS
It’s as simple as looking at the opponents’ rushing line if you want to know how the Raiders fared this season.
They allowed an average of 209.3 yards rushing in the four games they lost this season, an average of 93 per game in their seven victories.
On Sunday, the Dolphins rushed for 209 yards on 44 carries. That effort is going to push the Raiders toward last in the league against the run.
The Raiders entered Sunday’s game 27th at an average of 135.3 per game. That figure soared to 141.7. They are last in the league at an average of 5.3 yards per carry.
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MR is an idiot, but he was right about one thing. McClain was Al Davis’ last first round draft choice blunder. complete waste of $40 million
December 5th, 2011 at 12:51 pm
86.RaiderRetribution Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
Raiders need to show up in Green Bay.
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Or its curtains
December 5th, 2011 at 12:52 pm
2. They don’t pass protect as well with that alignment and Hue wants 5 and 7 step drops from CP3.
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SD game was the blue print for how this offense should be run. No huddle and all!
If that line was good enough to pass protect in that game, I don’t see why they aren’t good enough going forward.
You do realize how that dominant run blocking slows down the pass rush, right?
December 5th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
Broncos can win out. Sadly.
Only hope is for tebow to get hurt and insert Brady Quinn.
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Agreed 100% with paradise
December 5th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
Is Tebow going to get us a good draft pick for Pryor???
December 5th, 2011 at 12:54 pm
there are a bunch of fools in here. The same cats that were running around last week talking about superbowl are now ready to fire hue and talking about how bad the raiders suck.
get a grip
December 5th, 2011 at 12:54 pm
The Raiders and niners have both sucked since 2002 and neither team has really took control of the Bay Area in those years…now with the 49ers for sure hosting a home playoff game…its imperative and mandatory the fkin Raiders win division and host a home playoff game….yall that dont live out here dont understand….they blow this and the Raiders chances of overtaking the bay will take a serious hit
December 5th, 2011 at 12:55 pm
It doesn’t matter who you play this is the NFL and you are what you are no other way to look at it!
So I will say one more time if we finish 9-7 we are only one game better than a Cable coached team.
No other way to sugar coat it a win is a win and a loss is a loss no matter who the competition is.
December 5th, 2011 at 12:55 pm
Heyward-Bey caught three passes, including one that went for a touchdown on a nice one-handed catch. He would have posted pretty gaudy stats were it not for the two Barnes holding penalties.
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King Darrius showed up!
who predicted that? oh yeah, I did
December 5th, 2011 at 12:55 pm
90.J Hill Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 12:52 pm
2. They don’t pass protect as well with that alignment and Hue wants 5 and 7 step drops from CP3.
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SD game was the blue print for how this offense should be run. No huddle and all!
If that line was good enough to pass protect in that game, I don’t see why they aren’t good enough going forward.
You do realize how that dominant run blocking slows down the pass rush, right?
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Explain that to your LA patna Hue Jackson then
December 5th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
96.RaiderRockstar Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 12:55 pm
Heyward-Bey caught three passes, including one that went for a touchdown on a nice one-handed catch. He would have posted pretty gaudy stats were it not for the two Barnes holding penalties.
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King Darrius showed up!
who predicted that? oh yeah, I did
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DHB is handling biz…no doubt
December 5th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
You not in minority..i know we can cause damage in playoffs if hue lets go of his ego! take satele out for good…make sure tonga is on the field more often…thats just a start
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I agree.
Tyrant maybe going to far but I think he needs to take ego out of it. Where is our identity at?
Play this like you’re easing CP in. What happened to screens and intermediate stuff? Open up a defense and then gouge em.
We’ve run better against tougher defenses than Miami. Key is we stuck with it.
Now granted, after that KR TD, that became a lot tougher to do, but we’ve got to utilize our weapons. Reece only two touches?? Insane. If you’re going to play him, use him.
December 5th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
So I will say one more time if we finish 9-7 we are only one game better than a Cable coached team.
No other way to sugar coat it a win is a win and a loss is a loss no matter who the competition is.
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Exactly. Al Davis cared about wins & losses. not excuses
December 5th, 2011 at 12:57 pm
“Broncos can win out. Sadly.
Only hope is for tebow to get hurt and insert Brady Quinn.”
Shouldn’t be much of a drop off with Quinn as its their defense, ball control and not turning the ball over that is winning the games not just some college option sunning QB.
COME ON MAN!
December 5th, 2011 at 12:58 pm
100.RaiderRockstar Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
So I will say one more time if we finish 9-7 we are only one game better than a Cable coached team.
No other way to sugar coat it a win is a win and a loss is a loss no matter who the competition is.
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Exactly. Al Davis cared about wins & losses. not excuses
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As ive been saying…no excuses to not be hosting a home game wildcard weekend on Saturday night in Oakland
December 5th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
Hues presser is at 2 pm….. Gonna be real interesting….. I’m gonna bust up if Hue says
McFaddens getting closer everyday”.. … How much support I’m gonna have for Hue will depend on the team…. If they throw in the towel and stop playing ” like yesterday”… Then I think Hues finished…..let’s see if he can get this team playing ball…
December 5th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
There are no excuses in this business. We have guys that can step in to replace the guys who are down. We’ve shown that we can get the job done before, so there are really no excuses. We just have to go out perform and play. We just didn’t do that for 60 minutes yesterday
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Coach Barnes?
December 5th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
SD game was the blue print for how this offense should be run. No huddle and all!
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Yup.
Though things will become more dynamic with DMAC back. Kind of changes everything. Very disappointing to see him miss as much time as he has.
December 5th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
Lack of discipline its “Obvious” to me that’s what is happening.
Penalties on both sides of the ball.
Players getting excused for personal leave and instead using that time to play XBOX and wanna be thug.
Whats next?
December 5th, 2011 at 1:01 pm
FUk Broncos they ain’t winning the division they can win the wild card and coming to oakland and get their asses whooped
December 5th, 2011 at 1:01 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
Broncos can win out. Sadly.
Only hope is for tebow to get hurt and insert Brady Quinn.
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Agreed 100% with paradise
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Thank you for agreeing, it pains me to think about it. But they have a playoff defense and have run on everybody and the D sneaks up and Tebow makes easy throws for big gains. Its like playing your friend in Madden when they just do the same thing but you can’t stop it.
December 5th, 2011 at 1:02 pm
considering about succesful our screens and end arounds have been, its sad that hue just wants to dial up carson arm. Even Murph took a end around 15-16 yards early in the game, love to see some of those “Hue Jax” plays weve come to know,
pretty tough i guess without the speed guys theve been working so well with.. be good to get at least 2 of the 4 back this week.
December 5th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
26 obviously’s coming our way.
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fingers Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
Hues presser is at 2 pm….. Gonna be real interesting
December 5th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
Remember that South Park episode wheres Stan’s dad lacks discipline.
December 5th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
tebow has 1 pick in 7 starts, palmer has 9!!!! people were killing the former qb for missing deep side line throws but now we are missing the intermediate side line throws as well. If carson has to move his feet at all after his drop he is useless, and a turn over waiting to happen. Did we get a lemon? Palmer and the entire team was just plain pathetic yesterday. im seeing a disturbing pattern emerging in palmers game, and it looks suspiciously like bungle stripes.
December 5th, 2011 at 1:04 pm
Bres needs to be looking for a DT so Seymour can take his rightful spot on the bench.
December 5th, 2011 at 1:05 pm
113.MistaBrown Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 1:04 pm
Bres needs to be looking for a DT so Seymour can take his rightful spot on the bench.
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Lol Brownie your love for Big Rich is cute !!
December 5th, 2011 at 1:05 pm
Tim Tebow is a football player. a leader and a winner
Everybody hates on the dude because of his religion or unconventional QB play, but he’s a first year starter and his team is currently in the driver’s seat of the AFC West – they control their own destiny (not us)
pretty solid with a entirely new staff that stripped away Orton & Loyal from the passing game. Tebow is taking lemons and making lemonade. Imagine what he could do if there was any talented football players on that roster!
December 5th, 2011 at 1:06 pm
“26 obviously’s coming our way.”
Is that the over/under on this presser…..I will take the over!
December 5th, 2011 at 1:06 pm
lame trolls are back c u guys later
December 5th, 2011 at 1:06 pm
111.Silverandblack666 Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
Remember that South Park episode wheres Stan’s dad lacks discipline.
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hahahahahaha
December 5th, 2011 at 1:07 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
tebow has 1 pick in 7 starts, palmer has 9!!!! people were killing the former qb for missing deep side line throws but now we are missing the intermediate side line throws as well. If carson has to move his feet at all after his drop he is useless, and a turn over waiting to happen. Did we get a lemon? Palmer and the entire team was just plain pathetic yesterday. im seeing a disturbing pattern emerging in palmers game, and it looks suspiciously like bungle stripes.
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ok then when Jcampbell latches on to another team next yr follow him and become a fan of that team. convenient to come back after a loss but avoid the blog during the 3 games win streak huh?
December 5th, 2011 at 1:07 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
tebow has 1 pick in 7 starts, palmer has 9!!!! people were killing the former qb for missing deep side line throws but now we are missing the intermediate side line throws as well. If carson has to move his feet at all after his drop he is useless, and a turn over waiting to happen. Did we get a lemon? Palmer and the entire team was just plain pathetic yesterday. im seeing a disturbing pattern emerging in palmers game, and it looks suspiciously like bungle stripes.
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Mistic….. where were you in the 3 game win streak?
Thanks.
December 5th, 2011 at 1:08 pm
Sorry to burst your Teblow fan club membership bubble but he is a benefactor of many things that are working together to win games.
they have a great defense they do not turn the ball over and they are leading the league in rushing yards….think 2000 Ravens but not as talented.
December 5th, 2011 at 1:08 pm
Bruce Campbell at DT.
Why the F not? LoL
Tommie Hill will prob make the team next year eh?
December 5th, 2011 at 1:08 pm
O need to see plamer shake it off when it isnt going well and get the gritty win. If you suck for most of the game but shake it off in the two minute and win all is forgiven. We had grown accustomed to a qb having that ability over the last year and a half, even grads was able to do that on occasion. Does palmer have that kind of mental toughness or is a he a front runner? time will tell, save us carson if you suck like you have been we dont stand a chance.
December 5th, 2011 at 1:09 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 1:05 pm
Tim Tebow is a football player. a leader and a winner
Everybody hates on the dude because of his religion or unconventional QB play, but he’s a first year starter and his team is currently in the driver’s seat of the AFC West – they control their own destiny (not us)
pretty solid with a entirely new staff that stripped away Orton & Loyal from the passing game. Tebow is taking lemons and making lemonade. Imagine what he could do if there was any talented football players on that roster!
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is this a denver bronco blog? why don’t you su#k him off then he’s a virgin he needs it
December 5th, 2011 at 1:09 pm
Bruce Campbell at DT.
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William Joseph, Terdell Sands, Fred Wakefield & Ryan Boschetti working out for Chuck B today
-PFT
December 5th, 2011 at 1:10 pm
12 minutes ago – by Eric Gilmore – Johnson: Raiders forgetting loss, focusing on Packers
CB Chris Johnson said the Raiders put Sunday’s embarrassing loss to Miami behind them as soon as their plane landed in Oakland that night because they have to get ready to face the undefeated Packers in Green Bay. “We have to go there and be really sound in what we do because they are by far the best team in the league right now,” Johnson said. “They’re showing it.” Raiders RapidReports
December 5th, 2011 at 1:10 pm
Mystic1
Like I told you last night Carson Palmer and Terrell Pryor are the Oakland Raiders QB’s of the present and future, either get in line with it or find a new team to follow because its not going to change and frankly we are all sick of hearing you complain about it.
December 5th, 2011 at 1:10 pm
Lol… Yep… Hues uses obviously a lot……… obviously too much….. Lol… He likes that word….my call is we hear it at least 3 times…. Obviously ..
December 5th, 2011 at 1:10 pm
inonewordraider: two words
GROW UP!
December 5th, 2011 at 1:10 pm
back 2 work – later gents!
December 5th, 2011 at 1:11 pm
5 minutes ago – by Eric Gilmore – Raiders could catch break with weather
The Raiders could catch a good break with the weather Sunday at Green Bay. The forecast calls for clear skies with a high of 35 and a low of 26. They’re lucky they’re not playing on Friday, when the forecast is for snow flurries with a high of 21 and low of 12. Raiders RapidReports
December 5th, 2011 at 1:12 pm
“Imagine what he could do if there was any talented football players on that roster”
there are,
On the D, make big plays every week.
December 5th, 2011 at 1:12 pm
I couldn’t care less about Tebows religion… I despise him cause he’s a donkey… Period…
December 5th, 2011 at 1:12 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 1:10 pm
inonewordraider: two words
GROW UP!
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this coming from the guy who makes up bogus tweets? real grown up and continue your Tebow support by buying his jersey and becoming a bronco fan
December 5th, 2011 at 1:12 pm
William Joseph, Terdell Sands, Fred Wakefield & Ryan Boschetti working out for Chuck B today
-PFT
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More BS.
Joseph on the Giants, so I assume the rest is nonsense.
December 5th, 2011 at 1:13 pm
carsons story has yet to be written, questioning certain aspects of his game is fair. I would hate for the team to go down simply because we lost our starter. hopefully palmer can right himself, we need that “elite level qb play” that everyone said he brings to the table. to be sure the qb spot has been a down grade. Too early write him off though, but rust and timing are no longer valid excuses.
December 5th, 2011 at 1:14 pm
125.RaiderRockstar Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 1:09 pm
Bruce Campbell at DT.
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William Joseph, Terdell Sands, Fred Wakefield & Ryan Boschetti working out for Chuck B today
-PFT
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Well, Joseph was ok, i think!
December 5th, 2011 at 1:15 pm
# LA to TheBay Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 1:07 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
tebow has 1 pick in 7 starts, palmer has 9!!!! people were killing the former qb for missing deep side line throws but now we are missing the intermediate side line throws as well. If carson has to move his feet at all after his drop he is useless, and a turn over waiting to happen. Did we get a lemon? Palmer and the entire team was just plain pathetic yesterday. im seeing a disturbing pattern emerging in palmers game, and it looks suspiciously like bungle stripes.
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Mistic….. where were you in the 3 game win streak?
Thanks
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who complains during a win streak? truth be told however palmer has not been very goood in all except one game.
December 5th, 2011 at 1:15 pm
satalle needs to sit….suh is gonna eat him up….
December 5th, 2011 at 1:16 pm
not the turd!
December 5th, 2011 at 1:17 pm
As far as I have seen it…yes, Palmer played badly yetserday, but he didn’t give up! And I don’t believe for a second that the TD pass to TJ was garbage time because the Dolphins were really wanting a shut out!!! Maybe the last TD drive to get us 14, but what a catch by DHB!
December 5th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
to be sure the qb spot has been a down grade
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hardly, CP has yet to be benched as JC was
December 5th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
satele sux
December 5th, 2011 at 1:19 pm
ZERO.CREDIBILITY….misty eyes….SAY IT AGAIN….ZERO……HOW IS THE BASEMENT ARRANGEMENTS WORKING OUT WITH JOKER AND SILLY SULLY SCOTTY….????….GLAD TO HEAR IT…
December 5th, 2011 at 1:20 pm
I’m still solid behind Palmer…. I think the trade was a good one for us… And I think if this team was healthy and Palmer was able to get more time with Ford , Moore and McFadden he’d light up the scoreboard ….
December 5th, 2011 at 1:22 pm
# inonewordraider Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
to be sure the qb spot has been a down grade
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hardly, CP has yet to be benched as JC was
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we will just have to disagree but from where i sit 9 picks ( and it would be about 13-14 if defenders could catch) is a downgrade.
Lets hope he can bounce back after all he is supposed to be “elite”, according to his worshipers here
December 5th, 2011 at 1:22 pm
Satele’s time is up, I agree. I guess since they are so interchangeable when we play a 4-3 Satele can play center, but a 3-4 Wiz should? idk.
hard to say but yeah Satele needs to gain about 20 lbs
December 5th, 2011 at 1:23 pm
have to take into account 3 huge playmakers (and taiwan) who i feel can be are out.. Palmer could have a field day when(if) we get healthy… i wish we could just get some honest answers into timeframes on these guys.
December 5th, 2011 at 1:24 pm
142.inonewordraider Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
to be sure the qb spot has been a down grade
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hardly, CP has yet to be benched as JC was
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unfairly benched and it cost us division
December 5th, 2011 at 1:24 pm
i do know with 100% certainty palmers play and stat line with the upside down turn over to touchdown ratio would not be tolerated from any other qb on the roster.
Palmer gets a golden boy pass here for some reason though…strange indeed
December 5th, 2011 at 1:25 pm
Palmer can return to allpro form with receivers healthy, ample protection & a good running game. ‘Next man up’ sounds great, but doesn’t really work anywhere but in NE.
HueJack has to have RoMac’s back. Can’t lose your playcaller at this point.
Oakland & Denver are pretty similar teams in that either could beat anybody, but also can lose on any given weekend too. I just can’t see the Donk’s running the table.
December 5th, 2011 at 1:25 pm
I told everyone that McFadden had that list…injury thing that the Matt Shaub Houston Qb was operated on.
December 5th, 2011 at 1:25 pm
dont give this ‘he needs playmakers” crap either. we have won without all of these guys before, whats different now?
December 5th, 2011 at 1:25 pm
146.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 1:22 pm
# inonewordraider Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
to be sure the qb spot has been a down grade
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hardly, CP has yet to be benched as JC was
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we will just have to disagree but from where i sit 9 picks ( and it would be about 13-14 if defenders could catch) is a downgrade.
Lets hope he can bounce back after all he is supposed to be “elite”, according to his worshipers here
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Never saw him as elite
December 5th, 2011 at 1:27 pm
150.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 1:24 pm
i do know with 100% certainty palmers play and stat line with the upside down turn over to touchdown ratio would not be tolerated from any other qb on the roster.
Palmer gets a golden boy pass here for some reason though…strange indeed
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amen
December 5th, 2011 at 1:27 pm
code black
December 5th, 2011 at 1:28 pm
Samson Satele has a lot in common with Jim Otto and the other great Raider centers. All wear football pants, play center and hike the ball. I can’t think of anything else.
December 5th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
Palmer gets a golden boy pass here for some reason though…strange indeed
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amen
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I guess I am bias cause I’m on record as being a big fan of the trade, but does that mean JC got the Homeboy Pass?
December 5th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
if palmer flops, hopefully we can draft a qb of the future and groom him.
Hu Jack and RGIII would be a great fit. RGIII will be available in the late rounds due to the usual barriers involved when a super athletic qb from a spread offense shows up. barkley jones and luck will all go before he does
December 5th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 1:25 pm
dont give this ‘he needs playmakers” crap either. we have won without all of these guys before, whats different now?
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Bro are you high? Basically, the top 3 offensive players have been out for nearly a month. You can say with a straight face that has no effect?
December 5th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
Samson Satele has a lot in common with Jim Otto and the other great Raider centers. All wear football pants, play center and hike the ball. I can’t think of anything else.
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LOL
December 5th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
lol exla…except great centers dont get punked all day
December 5th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
9 picks
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9 picks when 6 were in his first two starts after bein gone how long? how many yards per game is cp averaging by the way? In JC’s Raider career he had one game, count em one, when he put up Carson Palmer yardage which was versus Buff this year. Try again
December 5th, 2011 at 1:30 pm
He gets golden pass because of his unfimiliarities with the team when the guy is not trying to come back from behind he makes throws that your lover boy Campbell cant make in his dreams..
December 5th, 2011 at 1:30 pm
Hu Jack and RGIII would be a great fit. RGIII will be available in the late rounds due to the usual barriers involved when a super athletic qb from a spread offense shows up.
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BS…. will be durability.
December 5th, 2011 at 1:30 pm
Lisfranc injury, as well as planter fascitus…Throw in a little mid foot sprain and walla….DMAC…..”But he’s gettin close”….!!!!
December 5th, 2011 at 1:31 pm
wow rodgers is going to have a field day on us LoL.
hahhahahhahahhahahaha.
December 5th, 2011 at 1:31 pm
CorkOnTheNFL Steve Corkran
#Raiders last in penalties (119) and penalty yards (1,027). The Green Bay Packers are 31st in both categories, at 60 for 441.
December 5th, 2011 at 1:31 pm
Well guys…JC brought us to where we are now, and I thank JC for that, but unless he has a total change of heart…he is no longer with us after this season! Pryor would be my hope but probably doesn’t seem like it…Mystic, I understand what you’re saying but come on now, only chime back in after a loss! I was still critisizing Palmer after the last couple weeks after wins…and I have said it last week, after re-watching the Bears game, a few of Plamer’s throws could have been picked off and he needs to play smart! And I am sticking to that!
December 5th, 2011 at 1:32 pm
inonewordraider Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
9 picks
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9 picks when 6 were in his first two starts after bein gone how long? how many yards per game is cp averaging by the way? In JC’s Raider career he had one game, count em one, when he put up Carson Palmer yardage which was versus Buff this year. Try again
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exactly but whats the point with arguing with stupid heads when they just wanna prove their silly points
December 5th, 2011 at 1:32 pm
158.LA to TheBay Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
Palmer gets a golden boy pass here for some reason though…strange indeed
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amen
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I guess I am bias cause I’m on record as being a big fan of the trade, but does that mean JC got the Homeboy Pass?
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ngga is too square to be a homeboy lmao
December 5th, 2011 at 1:32 pm
160.maniacon Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 1:25 pm
dont give this ‘he needs playmakers” crap either. we have won without all of these guys before, whats different now?
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Bro are you high? Basically, the top 3 offensive players have been out for nearly a month. You can say with a straight face that has no effect?
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And we managed for those 3 games because our Run game was rolling, soon as that got stunted we kind of needed some of those special playmakers, you know the speedy ones who make the downfield catches.
December 5th, 2011 at 1:32 pm
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December 5th, 2011 at 1:33 pm
166.autopalm77 Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 1:30 pm
Lisfranc injury, as well as planter fascitus…Throw in a little mid foot sprain and walla….DMAC…..”But he’s gettin close”….!!!!
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Little nick.
December 5th, 2011 at 1:34 pm
# inonewordraider Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
9 picks
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9 picks when 6 were in his first two starts after bein gone how long? how many yards per game is cp averaging by the way? In JC’s Raider career he had one game, count em one, when he put up Carson Palmer yardage which was versus Buff this year. Try again
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fanatasy football geekdom not withstanding, are you aware that yardage totals are not important? You can have the 330 yrds game but if you throw critical picks what good is it? Take tebow for instance, he doesnt throw for bug yards but he doesnt turn the ball over and he manages the game and is leading wins. tough gritty wins where he struggles early but guts out the victory by taking care of the ball. i have yet to see palmer do this.
December 5th, 2011 at 1:34 pm
Blackmamba_20 Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 1:32 pm
160.maniacon Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 1:25 pm
dont give this ‘he needs playmakers” crap either. we have won without all of these guys before, whats different now?
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Bro are you high? Basically, the top 3 offensive players have been out for nearly a month. You can say with a straight face that has no effect?
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And we managed for those 3 games because our Run game was rolling, soon as that got stunted we kind of needed some of those special playmakers, you know the speedy ones who make the downfield catches.
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exactly his favorite two receivers are injured the best player on the team is injured and the freaking O line is not even giving him time …
December 5th, 2011 at 1:34 pm
I think Taiwan Jones needs to be a big-play guy this week. We need some outide runs for 20+ yards and some screens that go the distance.
Taiwan is also one of our best special team guys.
December 5th, 2011 at 1:35 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 1:34 pm
# inonewordraider Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
9 picks
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9 picks when 6 were in his first two starts after bein gone how long? how many yards per game is cp averaging by the way? In JC’s Raider career he had one game, count em one, when he put up Carson Palmer yardage which was versus Buff this year. Try again
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fanatasy football geekdom not withstanding, are you aware that yardage totals are not important? You can have the 330 yrds game but if you throw critical picks what good is it? Take tebow for instance, he doesnt throw for bug yards but he doesnt turn the ball over and he manages the game and is leading wins. tough gritty wins where he struggles early but guts out the victory by taking care of the ball. i have yet to see palmer do this.
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you know your lover Tebow got that great D which he can rely on n he doesn;t have to super special
December 5th, 2011 at 1:35 pm
Lets hope he can bounce back after all he is supposed to be “elite”, according to his worshipers here
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Never saw him as elite
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So again I ask, should we have just gone with Boeller until JC got healthy and essentially write off the season?
December 5th, 2011 at 1:35 pm
When a gap is stuff Bush just falls forward for 1 yard.
Taiwan will have some lanes against GB.
December 5th, 2011 at 1:36 pm
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December 5th, 2011 at 1:36 pm
Well the “little” nick is the main course….He was healthy enough to play in week 13….PERIOD…
December 5th, 2011 at 1:37 pm
seriously besides Mistic anyone think JC is actually better than CP?
December 5th, 2011 at 1:37 pm
Where did my CRANK go…..???
December 5th, 2011 at 1:37 pm
# Blackmamba_20 Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 1:32 pm
160.maniacon Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 1:25 pm
dont give this ‘he needs playmakers” crap either. we have won without all of these guys before, whats different now?
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Bro are you high? Basically, the top 3 offensive players have been out for nearly a month. You can say with a straight face that has no effect?
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And we managed for those 3 games because our Run game was rolling, soon as that got stunted we kind of needed some of those special playmakers, you know the speedy ones who make the downfield catches.
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why all of the excuses? we have won games without every one of our so called playmakers even going back to last year. DHB, Ford, murph chaz, z miller, boss, dmac bush and reece. We have won games without all of them before, why is it different now?
because the qb isnt a play maker, and struggles when everything around him isnt perfect.
December 5th, 2011 at 1:37 pm
Code Black 4 ever
December 5th, 2011 at 1:37 pm
CP turns ball over…and JC lacks nut sack at times……theyre a wash
December 5th, 2011 at 1:38 pm
ANSWER:…………NO…..!!!
December 5th, 2011 at 1:38 pm
I don’t see that anyone’s given Palmer a pass….he hasn’t been here long enough to start trashing on him yet….we’ve got 4 more games to see what he can do….some in here are already trashing him….I’m still backing him till I have a legit reason not too… I wanna see how he does with a healthy team…I’ve never seen so many foot and hamstring injuries in my life …
December 5th, 2011 at 1:38 pm
PLAYERS WORKING OUT
Defensive coordinator Chuck Bresnahan oversaw the workout of two players late this morning. Both players appeared to be linebackers.
The Raiders did not reveal the names of the players donning Nos. 44 and 47.
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Hartwell Brown to the rescue?…
December 5th, 2011 at 1:38 pm
CODE SILVER…..BABY….!!!!!
December 5th, 2011 at 1:39 pm
I am not in any way shape or form a tebow fan, but the reality is he is now outplaying our qb. we went from having the best qb in the division to chasing tebow?!?!?!
lord help us
December 5th, 2011 at 1:39 pm
LOL let this argue with himself , seriously which QB doesnt struggle when everything around him doesnt work.. LMFAO
December 5th, 2011 at 1:39 pm
Old Misty eyes all upset at Palmer when we clearly got our ass handed to us at the LOS on both sides of the ball!
Seymour and kelly got punked Curry got beat in coverage the secondary had to work overtime because of no pressure from the front 4.
The O-Line well Satele is the weak link Bush missed blocks Boss had 2 nice passes clank off of his hands. Barnes got called for penalties in crucial situations.
Many many more things to look at and complain about besides the QB play if you ask me!
December 5th, 2011 at 1:40 pm
There’s only one guy who’s constantly trashing him ..
December 5th, 2011 at 1:40 pm
Anyone on here trashing Palmer is a fool.
Best QB we have had in forever and everyone is trashin him for the porous drop in pass-protection and lack of run game from o-line last 2 games. 17 sacks in last 3 games. several hurries and hits. and the best WR’s are on the injury list.
child please.
December 5th, 2011 at 1:41 pm
Sully is misty eyes and joker…..
December 5th, 2011 at 1:41 pm
seriously he’s saying tebow is playing better ? lmfao give tebow our D n we’ll talk
December 5th, 2011 at 1:41 pm
Boller?… We wouldn’t have won a game with him replacing Campbell… This has to be his last year as a Raider….
December 5th, 2011 at 1:43 pm
Hey its not everybody its the same guy SIlly mistaeyes and joker … every one of his puppets have a role on here to anger everybody, for example mistic comes in when Palmer is struggling , silly comes after a loss, and others after Mclain incident
December 5th, 2011 at 1:43 pm
I have pointed out red flags that are clearly showing this year for palmer, and thats trashing him?
Why is palmer off limits? he is just as responsible for that god awful showing as the rest of the team.
December 5th, 2011 at 1:43 pm
MistaBrown Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 12:20 pm
Hue we can meet out front of Raider Image and I will tell you to your face I dont give one Fk.
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Don’t do it Hue. The guy is a delusional maniac. But he is easy to identify: if you see someone foaming at the mouth with a little pocket dog named “oakglenn” and he is wearing a Bernie Kosar charger and no pants, you will know it is Jamista Turd.
December 5th, 2011 at 1:44 pm
“I don’t see that anyone’s given Palmer a pass….he hasn’t been here long enough to start trashing on him yet….we’ve got 4 more games to see what he can do….some in here are already trashing him….I’m still backing him till I have a legit reason not too… I wanna see how he does with a healthy team…I’ve never seen so many foot and hamstring injuries in my life …”
DING DING correct answer!
Palmer hasn’t even been a Raider long enough for us to evaluate him as a player….get a life Mystic1 we are all sick of your song and dance!
December 5th, 2011 at 1:44 pm
ONE VERY SERIOUS ISSUE ABOUT GB GAME:
bush is an awful pass protector. who the heck is going to chip matthews?!
December 5th, 2011 at 1:44 pm
If our D doesnt play at high level we won’t go anywhere cuz 3 of the top 5 players on our O are injured and we can’t play highscoring games…
December 5th, 2011 at 1:45 pm
“because the qb isnt a play maker, and struggles when everything around him isnt perfect.”
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UMMM i think he is a playmaker,
is he prone to poor throws and ultimatly interceptions? yes..
but can he make throws we havent seen here in a long time(play making) yes…
i think he has plenty to work on, all im saying is that with the Rush game doing nothing it would have helped to Have 3 premier playmakers.. No??
December 5th, 2011 at 1:45 pm
im only being fair, i killed grads for turning over the football, and palmer gets the same treatment for doing the same thing. any qb would
December 5th, 2011 at 1:45 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 1:34 pm
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exactly his favorite two receivers are injured the best player on the team is injured and the freaking O line is not even giving him time …
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When the run games been on, Palmer has been fine.
Palmers been here a month and a half ! Insane to expect him to be playing at a peak level right now.
December 5th, 2011 at 1:46 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 1:43 pm
I have pointed out red flags that are clearly showing this year for palmer, and thats trashing him?
Why is palmer off limits? he is just as responsible for that god awful showing as the rest of the team.
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we argue about everything but for some reason Palmer is the reason we lose every game
December 5th, 2011 at 1:46 pm
Hue Jackson will say Obviously at least 3 times during his presser…
15 minutes …
December 5th, 2011 at 1:47 pm
DHB for most improved player of the year. and he has 4 more games to build on that.
after that I would flirt with Veldheer being improved but he has seen a drop of late in his play overall.
others i like:
Desmond Bryant
Branch (always liked him) but he made the next step this year
December 5th, 2011 at 1:47 pm
For mistic everything is on Palmer ..
December 5th, 2011 at 1:47 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 1:37 pm
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because the qb isnt a play maker, and struggles when everything around him isnt perfect.
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Sounds like your talking bout JCamp to me…
December 5th, 2011 at 1:48 pm
No one is giving Palmer a pass we are all just intelligent enough to know that it takes a QB a while to get acclimated.
Yesterday we got our ass handed to us at the LOS on both sides of the ball!
I suppose you think RG111 could have stepped in and did a better job yesterday because he is a more “athletic” QB?
Well guess what we have our own “athletic” QB and his name is Terrell Pryor!
Let me make one thing clear to you little brain…WE ARE NOT DRAFTING ANOTHER QB!!!!!!
December 5th, 2011 at 1:48 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 1:44 pm
“I don’t see that anyone’s given Palmer a pass….he hasn’t been here long enough to start trashing on him yet….we’ve got 4 more games to see what he can do….some in here are already trashing him….I’m still backing him till I have a legit reason not too… I wanna see how he does with a healthy team…I’ve never seen so many foot and hamstring injuries in my life …”
DING DING correct answer!
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Agreed.
December 5th, 2011 at 1:48 pm
I am not in any way shape or form a tebow fan, but the reality is he is now outplaying our qb
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what is he 6 and 1? he’s outplaying every qb but rodgers
December 5th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
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December 5th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
fingers Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 1:46 pm
Hue Jackson will say Obviously at least 3 times during his presser…
15 minutes …
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…and we will get to see where our guys are at wednesday, but I beleive were getting closer there.
…its not good enough and thats falls on me.
…our players understand whats at stake, believe me.
December 5th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
CODE BLACK >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
December 5th, 2011 at 1:50 pm
218…lol…yes…..
December 5th, 2011 at 1:50 pm
McFragile is a pu$$y! A sprained foot? It has to be far more than that or he has a vajayjay. This team is done, no identity no heart. I bet The Packers are watching film right now and laughing their asses off.
December 5th, 2011 at 1:50 pm
inonewordraider Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 1:48 pm
I am not in any way shape or form a tebow fan, but the reality is he is now outplaying our qb
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what is he 6 and 1? he’s outplaying every qb but rodgers
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OH please, no mention of their D?
December 5th, 2011 at 1:50 pm
Palmer and Pryor
Present and Future!
Get in line with it because that is not going to change!
December 5th, 2011 at 1:51 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 1:50 pm
Palmer and Pryor
Present and Future!
Get in line with it because that is not going to change!
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And CODE BLACK ain’t going anywhere either
December 5th, 2011 at 1:51 pm
Maybe Hue needs an Irish Coffee.
December 5th, 2011 at 1:52 pm
I’d almost rather hear Hue say… Ok.. I’m just here to jive you…..
December 5th, 2011 at 1:52 pm
I guess you meant 13 or 30 because 3 is way too low of a number.
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fingers Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 1:46 pm
Hue Jackson will say Obviously at least 3 times during his presser…
15 minutes …
December 5th, 2011 at 1:52 pm
“OH please, no mention of their D?”
Yes their D, their run blocking, they don’t turn the ball over they play great special teams.
Think 2000 Ravens but not as talented.
December 5th, 2011 at 1:53 pm
palmer has an abysmal 4th qaurter passer rating of 57.3!!!! 2 touchdowns and 5 picks
on 3rd down he is slightly better 63.% 2/2 5 sacks
this isnt “elite”, and it isnt good enough to win, especially when you consider the shaky line play, lack of skill players and defense that cant be counted on week to week
December 5th, 2011 at 1:53 pm
I can’t wait till i get to see a pitch outside on the edge to mcfadden again. sigh.
December 5th, 2011 at 1:53 pm
Donk’s running game & run blocking is no joke either…. Any mobile QB could run wild with that line. Vick would be MVP
December 5th, 2011 at 1:54 pm
I want to know who is going to step up and take the personal challenge of trying to stop Clay. Raiders players never want to “man up”. Always looking for excuses or the next person to blame. I never even see any player excited to take on any challenges against certain players. It seems like Raiders players have this mentality that they are just “there” in the league, and arent interested in elevating their game. At the very least, show some pride. Watching the team tip toe to the line, while there was still a lot of time left, This team is not a bully. This team is a flashy pansy. Looks good, fast, can make plays, but as soon as you punch em in the mouth, they fold, like lawn chairs. Team full of kittens.
December 5th, 2011 at 1:54 pm
OH please, no mention of their D?
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seriously partner they had that same D when Orton was playing but they’re playing lights out for tebow and did you see the game yesterday? Guy keeps improving. But unlike alotta the clowns in here I know the Raids are legit too u don’t beat Houston in Houston if your not legit
December 5th, 2011 at 1:56 pm
If we can’t run the ball , we can’t be in games.
Luckily GB is 29th agsinst the run and in my book as talented as GB is …. if we can run the ball, then we can compete with anybody.
Therefore…
Before I even see an injury list….
raiders _____ packers ______
December 5th, 2011 at 1:57 pm
136.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 5th, 2011 at 1:13 pm
carsons story has yet to be written, questioning certain aspects of his game is fair. I would hate for the team to go down simply because we lost our starter. hopefully palmer can right himself, we need that “elite level qb play” that everyone said he brings to the table. to be sure the qb spot has been a down grade. Too early write him off though, but rust and timing are no longer valid excuses.
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Get the rust off DMC, Jacoby, and Denarius. That would give us a chance to beat the Packers!!!
December 5th, 2011 at 2:00 pm
John…. It’s consistency … That’s what the Raiders are missing ….we need the Defense to show up more than once every 5 games…
December 5th, 2011 at 2:12 pm
DMAC = Chaz schilens as far as health.
DMAC averaging 9 carries a gm sice he was drafted. Reflects massive amount of time missed.
He’s not playing this week and next week wil be limited action.
Better have a SOLID #2 that can pass block next year or Rock Cartwright will be getting the carries and find good RBs are not a dime a dozen–rememeber all those RBs before DMAC?
December 5th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
Fingers,
Correct. The defense has been inconsistent all season. Thanks to McClain, the defense was off the whole game yesterday.
December 5th, 2011 at 6:32 pm
Litotes Shepard seems to be playing a lot of off coverage giving up easy completions
December 5th, 2011 at 8:16 pm
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