Raiders at less than full strength vs. Packers
By Steve Corkran
Friday, December 9th, 2011 at 1:41 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Raiders coach Hue Jackson just announced that running backs Darren McFadden (foot) and Taiwan Jones (hamstring) and wide receivers Denarius Moore (foot) and Jacoby Ford (foot) will not play Sunday against the Green Bay Packers.
All four of those players have missed at least the past two games. McFadden has not played since Oct. 23. There’s still no firm timetable for his return.
Jackson also confirmed that Moore and Ford were close enough to returning that he put them through a workout this morning in an attempt to see if there was any hope of getting back at least one of his starting receivers.
“Yes, it was,” Jackson said, when asked if the workouts were designed to gauge their readiness. “They’re getting closer. Not there yet. But we’re very close.”
Michael Bush will be the starting running back for the sixth straight game, with Rock Cartwright and Marcel Reece backing him up in the run game.
Chaz Schilens is ready to go despite his foot injury against the Miami Dolphins last Sunday, Jackson said. That means Schilens and Darrius Heyward-Bey will start at the receiver spots, with Louis Murphy and T.J. Houshmandzadeh the lone backups.
Defensive tackle John Henderson (knee) is questionable for Sunday’s game. Every other injured player who hasn’t been ruled out yet is probable or full go.
GETTING ACCLIMATED
The Raiders will conduct their walk-through practice Saturday outside, even though there is an indoor facility at their disposal in Green Bay.
Jackson said he wants his players to get acclimated to the conditions they will face Sunday, when the temperature is forecast for somewhere between 27 degrees and 38 throughout the day.
“We’re not going to worry about the elements,” Jackson said. “We’re a weather-proof football team. Snow, rain, hot cold, we got to play. That’s just the way it goes.”
CUE THE HIGHLIGHTS
The Packers passing game is one of the most dynamic in the league. The Raiders are well aware of that fact, and they embrace the challenge.
Jackson said the Raiders have their hands full going against Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers, who has posted 12 straight games with a passer rating above 106.0 and thrown for 37 touchdowns against only six interceptions.
“He’s good,” Jackson said of Rodgers. “But what a challenge. If you’re a defensive back, this is the kind of games you like. Here’s a chance for a bunch of young men to create opportunities for themselves and get their name on SportsCenter. They’ve got to make those plays.
“That’s what this is all about. If you want to be the best, you want to play against the best, and these guys are as good as there is in football, and when our guys have an opportunity to be good, they need to step up and play that way, and they will.”
Strong safety Tyvon Branch says he and his defensive back mates are looking forward to the challenge. At the same time, they aren’t going to treat this any differently than other games.
“Week in and week out, you want to go out there and put your best foot forward, regardless who you’re playing against,” Branch said. “That’s the nature of this league. You want to go it there and play hard and play consistent every week. With a guy of his caliber, there’s a little more spotlight on it. But week in and week out, we want to do the same thing.”
RUN, RUN, RUN
It’s no secret that the best way to beat the Packers is to keep their high-powered offense off the field as much as possible.
Doing so is easier said than done, of course. However, consider the fact that the Packers defense allows an average of 4.9 yards per carry this season.
Raiders offensive coordinator Al Saunders knows the Packers are vulnerable against the run. He also realizes that the Raiders need to keep the game close so that they are in position to run the ball as often as they would like.
“Well, there’s no question,” Saunders said. “Our offense is built around running the football. Our players know that. We feel that we have not run the football as successfully or as frequently as we would have liked to probably in the last couple of weeks. And we’ve got to back to that because that’s what we are. We’re at our best when we’re running the football effectively.”
Jackson said the Raiders won’t necessarily force the issue in the running game.
“At the end of the day, they find a way to win, and that’s what we’re all about right now,” Jackson said. “We try to find a way to win. We don’t care whether we run it, throw it, kick it. We don’t care. We just want to win. That’s what this is all about.”
PALMER VS. PACKERS
Raiders quarterback Carson Palmer calls Lambeau Field his favorite place to play a game. And, why not? He is 1-0 in regular-season games at the hallowed site.
Palmer guided the Cincinnati Bengals to a 31-24 victory over the Packers on Sept. 20, 2009, despite having two passes intercepted by cornerback Charles Woodson — he returned one for a touchdown.
In that game, Palmer completed 15 of 23 passes for 185 yards, with three touchdowns and a 93.3 passer rating. Rodgers was 21 of 39 for 261 yards and one touchdown, with an 83.4 passer rating.
Overall, Palmer is 2-0 against the Packers all-time. He also led the Bengals past the Packers in 2005, though that game was played in Cincinnati.
SEYMOUR FINED
Raiders defensive tackle Richard Seymour was fined $30,000 by the NFL for “unnecessary roughness” against Miami Dolphins guard Richie Incognito.
The referee in that game ejected Seymour from the game and assessed a 15-yard penalty for punching Incognito in the face. Seymour has been ejected from a game in each of his three seasons with the Raiders.
Jackson said he didn’t think Seymour’s actions warranted an ejection. Seymour apologized after the game for his transgression, saying, “I shouldn’t have let my emotions get the best of me. No excuses.”
Incognito and Dolphins defensive end Cameron Wake were fined $7,500 and $15,000, respectively, for late hits against the Raiders.
WHY NOT THE RAIDERS?
Jackson saw what the Packers did last season, when they got on a roll late in the season and rode that wave through the Super Bowl despite a slew of injuries to key players.
He is hopeful that the Raiders can follow that blueprint, with or without the aforementioned injured players.
“I truly believe in my football team,” Jackson said. “We have a chance to do anything we want to do. When our players set their mind to it, there’s nothing that they can’t do. I know that was the Packers’ situation a year ago. Year to year, everything changes.
“But we have an opportunity, just because this team’s really a good football team, and when they’re focused and they play great and the intensity is how I know it should be and what it should be, we can play and beat anybody.”
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December 9th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
Obviously.
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Method To My Madness Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 1:35 pm
326.MistaBrown Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 1:27 pm
Why make this analogy ?
smh
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305.raiderinparadise Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 1:16 pm
We will find out how big Carson Palmer’s cok is tomorrow
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No management
December 9th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
I hate Skip Bayless
December 9th, 2011 at 1:44 pm
Raiders suing Nations Hamburgers???????? Well, I can’t blame Al Davis for this one.
http://www.google.com/imgres?q=Raiders+suing+Nations&um=1&hl=en&sa=N&biw=1066&bih=757&tbm=isch&tbnid=Ef3cQHQ39EVMzM:&imgrefurl=http://offthebench.nbcsports.com/2011/12/08/raiders-sue-hamburger-chain-say-they-ripped-off-their-trademark/&docid=ulsjBz2ZZxfC0M&itg=1&imgurl=http://nbcoutofbounds.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/raidanations03.jpg%253Fw%253D224&w=224&h=189&ei=J4DiTt7oOOHaiQKj_eDUBg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=124&vpy=455&dur=6270&hovh=151&hovw=179&tx=73&ty=72&sig=102606206621410692768&page=1&tbnh=125&tbnw=148&start=0&ndsp=21&ved=1t:429,r:11,s:0
December 9th, 2011 at 1:44 pm
JUST WIN…
December 9th, 2011 at 1:44 pm
KK Munster,
Shut the Fk up!
December 9th, 2011 at 1:44 pm
3. Who cares.
December 9th, 2011 at 1:45 pm
Munster why are you always spamming us with links? You stupid MFK’r!
December 9th, 2011 at 1:45 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
I hate Skip Bayless
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With a handle like 666, I bet you hate a lot of people.
December 9th, 2011 at 1:48 pm
well, well, well …. what do we have here? A chance to get back the balls of this bully.
December 9th, 2011 at 1:48 pm
GoodOle00 Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 1:44 pm
3. Who cares.
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I do. The people interviewed on the local news last nite, thought it was silly, also.
December 9th, 2011 at 1:48 pm
Forget Chuckie B.
Strength and Conditioning Coach Brad Roll needs to go, NOW.
December 9th, 2011 at 1:48 pm
So KK is a Skip Bayless fan.
Who would have thought.
December 9th, 2011 at 1:48 pm
Incognito had it comin
December 9th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
Out till the nite crew rolls in.
December 9th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
Brad Roll is a drunk and has got the B@uce some brew game before…he is cool
December 9th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
Code Black in GB, Wisc.
Donkey Stomp by Da Bears! Cannot wait!
December 9th, 2011 at 1:50 pm
“KK Munster,
Shut the Fk up!”
I agree 100%
December 9th, 2011 at 1:50 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 1:48 pm
So KK is a Skip Bayless fan.
Who would have thought.
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Nope. Just, not a fan of hateful people.
December 9th, 2011 at 1:52 pm
KK Munster, if you were ever a capitalist you would understand infringement rights but you are a communist or better known today as a liberal democrat.
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KoolKell Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 1:44 pm
Raiders suing Nations Hamburgers???????? Well, I can’t blame Al Davis for this one.
December 9th, 2011 at 1:53 pm
You and 20 other goons think its silly the other 5 mil people dont give a rats ass.
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KoolKell Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 1:48 pm
I do. The people interviewed on the local news last nite, thought it was silly, also.
December 9th, 2011 at 1:54 pm
Borat voice…”everybody dance now”
December 9th, 2011 at 1:54 pm
Raid A Nation, is copyright infringement, on Nations Hamburgers?
December 9th, 2011 at 1:54 pm
I hope the RAIDERS BRING it on Sunday!
December 9th, 2011 at 1:56 pm
KK Munster, go eat a bowl of prunes and sh!t yourself to sleep.
December 9th, 2011 at 1:56 pm
Silverandblack666
666 stands for hate, right? It’s only natural that you’d hate a lot of people, yes?
December 9th, 2011 at 1:57 pm
Michael Bush should be rested…… 10 carrys last week….
Hue… Whatever you do…. Don’t let Bush pass block…
December 9th, 2011 at 1:57 pm
lmao mistabrown
December 9th, 2011 at 1:57 pm
I just dont feel good about this game RAIDERNATION, put me down for 48-14 Packers…I’ll thankfully eat crow on this one though…Come on Code:BLACK , prove me wrong…
December 9th, 2011 at 1:57 pm
Munster did you get all fired up watching the news lastnight thinking got dam how can I hang this one on Al Davis ?
Muppet brain!
December 9th, 2011 at 1:58 pm
To beat beat GB with what we have:
Bush 130 rushing.
Time of Possesion- 35min
Turnovers:0
Forced Turnovers:2
Stop Randall Cobb on returns.
Chaz and DHB avg 15 a catch.
Defense plays well on 3rd downs.
December 9th, 2011 at 1:59 pm
“666 stands for hate, right? It’s only natural that you’d hate a lot of people, yes?”
Are you that feeble minded that a number bothers you?
Really a number?
Numbers do NOT have meanings except for pi 3.14
Get a grip man its a number not a hate crime.
December 9th, 2011 at 2:00 pm
Im watching NBAtv , didnt know Ron Jeremy covered the NBA …LMAO
December 9th, 2011 at 2:00 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 1:44 pm
Raiders suing Nations Hamburgers???????? Well, I can’t blame Al Davis for this one.
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If you were MR/Sandusky 44, you’d find a way.
December 9th, 2011 at 2:01 pm
Moore and Ford are the same player basically fast lil spider man’s but dmac is killing me with his long return, when I drafted him in ff I drafted Bush as well because dude is glass. We better not break the bank on him when we re sign him.
December 9th, 2011 at 2:01 pm
mods at it again lol
December 9th, 2011 at 2:01 pm
32.marader508 Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 2:00 pm
Im watching NBAtv , didnt know Ron Jeremy covered the NBA …LMAO
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What couldn’t he cover with that thing? lol
December 9th, 2011 at 2:02 pm
28.marader508 Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 1:57 pm
I just dont feel good about this game RAIDERNATION, put me down for 48-14 Packers…I’ll thankfully eat crow on this one though…Come on Code:BLACK , prove me wrong…
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weak
December 9th, 2011 at 2:03 pm
Moore and Ford workingout under the Watchful of two team trainers….
Who’s Team ?… The Donkeys?
December 9th, 2011 at 2:03 pm
26.fingers Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 1:57 pm
Michael Bush should be rested…… 10 carrys last week….
Hue… Whatever you do…. Don’t let Bush pass block…
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He want that slow bruiser in the flat? Who is he gonna make miss?
December 9th, 2011 at 2:04 pm
Raider will defeat GB…No doubt about it…
This will be the first complte game we play this year.
For the doubters you will be eating a lot of crow schit
December 9th, 2011 at 2:05 pm
38.fingers Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 2:03 pm
Moore and Ford workingout under the Watchful of two team trainers….
Who’s Team ?… The Donkeys?
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And if they were able to workout, dont you judge whether they can go the next day to check soreness? We need some better reporting. Did they have any limp? Bad medical decisions…of course the trainer will side on conservative. Its up to you to say when is time Hue…CALL THESE PLAYERS OUT
December 9th, 2011 at 2:06 pm
Murphy will have over 100 yards
Secondary will beat GB receivers
Wimbley & entire DLine will get very acquainted with Rodgers
Oline will beat GB front 7
CP will show he’s elite
Raiders will win
December 9th, 2011 at 2:07 pm
This is scary. Uggggg.
Line Reece up as a receiver.
December 9th, 2011 at 2:07 pm
Well now Dave Stern has taken two huge dumps on the west coast Seattle and now Los Angeles …
December 9th, 2011 at 2:08 pm
38.Dakota Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 2:01 pm
32.marader508 Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 2:00 pm
Im watching NBAtv , didnt know Ron Jeremy covered the NBA …LMAO
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What couldn’t he cover with that thing? lol
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come on mayne
December 9th, 2011 at 2:08 pm
Lakers, Hornets Rockets re-working deal.
That is bad news for Lakers fans. Obviously the Lakers will have to make an even worse deal than the one they were saved from in order for Stern to okay the trade. Maybe throw Bynum and two first rounders in for the PG? Maybe give Stern an ownership interest in the Staple’s center? Maybe a Laker girl too?
yikes.
December 9th, 2011 at 2:09 pm
Whats up with the sausage fest in here today ?
December 9th, 2011 at 2:09 pm
45.morilla Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 2:07 pm
This is scary. Uggggg.
Line Reece up as a receiver.
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havent they been doing that all year? cuz he sure aint a FB like tonga is…all i told you a few weeks ago!
December 9th, 2011 at 2:09 pm
DHB BREAKOUT!
December 9th, 2011 at 2:09 pm
im not a doubter, i have supported this team in every move this year…But IMO a healthy Raider team vs the Packers, i would give a slight edge to the Packers.The Raiders with no Dmac no Ford no Moore no Jones a tired Bush…i think it would take more than just a complete game to win.
December 9th, 2011 at 2:09 pm
49.MistaBrown Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 2:09 pm
Whats up with the sausage fest in here today ?
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man..something is ninerish about that
December 9th, 2011 at 2:10 pm
52.marader508 Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 2:09 pm
im not a doubter, i have supported this team in every move this year…But IMO a healthy Raider team vs the Packers, i would give a slight edge to the Packers.The Raiders with no Dmac no Ford no Moore no Jones a tired Bush…i think it would take more than just a complete game to win.
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zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
December 9th, 2011 at 2:10 pm
so funny that the team feels it needs to get back to the running game. perhaps they are realizing that palmer isnt the shoot it out high flying qb he was cracked up to be, especially behind suspect pass blocking.
Running will not be easy because satele and carlisle will have their hands full with the gb interior line men. a lot of teams attack them on the edges, but bush isnt quick enough and is much better going down hill then he is going side ways.
If we cant run or fall behind becuase of turn overs this will get out of hand. Im afraid this game will come down to how well the raiders can pass, because the packers will load the box and dare palmer to beat them, just as we saw with the bears and miami.
this is where the rubber meets the road as far as palmer is concerned. If he flops will the fans continue to give him the red carpet treatment? If he wins will he be heralded as the second coming? Win or lose we will clearly have a solid body of work to evaluate his play, and the excuses will no longer be valid. Maybe he can pull his head out and give us a punchers chance. Afetr all i dont think the packers look at this team as any kind of a threat.
December 9th, 2011 at 2:10 pm
bad news for laker fans is good news for everyone
December 9th, 2011 at 2:11 pm
Raiders 32…… Pack 25….
December 9th, 2011 at 2:11 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
Brad Roll is a drunk and has got the B@uce some brew game before…he is cool
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Maybe that’s the problem.
DMAC: Coach, how can we get this to heal faster?
ROLL: *Hiccup* Here’s a hot toddy, son. Clear you right up.
DMAC (sipping): How does this help a mid foot sprain?
ROLL: Foot?? Oh sh;t, no wonder you’ve missed so much damn time, I thought you had a cold or something.
December 9th, 2011 at 2:12 pm
LA To The Gay, dont try and be funny, k ?
December 9th, 2011 at 2:13 pm
Wimbley only does good vs back up left tackles, pretty much gets man handled by starting lt. We need too move him to the right side when ever he Is in a 3 point stance. Scott is dead weight absolutely never any qb pressure from him. Houston needs to be more hungry as well as McClain.
December 9th, 2011 at 2:13 pm
Raiders will Beat GB 50-0
Aaron Rodgers will throw 6 ints.
McCann will run back 3 kickoffs for TD’s
Mccann will return 3 punts for TD’s
Code Black Code Black Code Black.
See, I’m a true Raider fan.
December 9th, 2011 at 2:14 pm
KK Munster is even trying to do jokes now. I didnt get the memo it was amateur night…
December 9th, 2011 at 2:15 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 2:10 pm
so funny that the team feels it needs to get back to the running game. perhaps they are realizing that palmer isnt the shoot it out high flying qb he was cracked up to be, especially behind suspect pass blocking.
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Gettin a little trollish Mistic. Palmer looked good when Ford and DMoore were out there. Not the 3 possesion receivers we will have this week. Cant go deep with the WRs in there now…
December 9th, 2011 at 2:15 pm
All you need to see is
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
And you pretty much know where the post is going.
Go back and watch the Bears and Dolphins games.
Palmer was actually rather good in the Bears game. He didn’t have the TDs, but he made numerous key throws.
And Miami? Well, show me any Raider who had a good game.
Of course they need to run more…. Bush only ran 10 times in that game. The worst running team in the league runs more than 10 times.
And we’re a running team!
Wow.
If Palmer lights it up, will you go away for however long we’re winning for again?
December 9th, 2011 at 2:16 pm
Brian the Genital, remind everyone again how only jcats shop for jimmmies at CVS.
Don’t think I’ll ever get tired of that “instant blog dork classic”!
Is it too late to get a few smacks in on Krappy, or did the old trolling goat run for the hills (more like waddle) already?
December 9th, 2011 at 2:17 pm
MistaBrown Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 2:12 pm
LA To The Gay, dont try and be funny, k ?
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MistaBrown, the country is full of enough inbred scum who can;t think for themselves and have Rupert Murdoch do all the thinking for them.
I don’t really have to say this, being that you would need a female to help you out, but don’t procreate, k?
December 9th, 2011 at 2:18 pm
RUN THE BALL.
If Carson has to throw more than 25 times we lose.
Pound tha rock!
December 9th, 2011 at 2:18 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 12:45 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
Wait, Oakland has an NBA team called the warriors?
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Yeah Buddy. In case you didn’t know, they play at the exact same location where the Oakland A’s and the Oakland Raiders play.
Oakland is the ONLY city in California that hosts a professional Football, Baseball, and Basketball team.
Nuff said. The rest of y’all are playin catch up.
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Actually, muppet brain, they don’t. Warriors play in the Arena, not the coliseum.
Hey, I was hoping you could explain to everyone how you are 100% positive that the league contacted the Vikings, and told them to throw the game. Where everyone on the Vikings laid down like dogs, just because the league wanted them to. Those were your words, muppet, not mine.
December 9th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
nah the scum listen to Jeff Imelt , and the MSPMS squad
December 9th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
Wow, you guys are so sensitive about palmer. Its hilarious. He did not play well over the last two weeks, is it unfair to assert that if he plays poorly we will lose in gb? is it unfair to evaluate palmer?
We need him to play well or we have no shot, why does this idea bother you so?
December 9th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
62.LA to TheBay Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 2:15 pm
All you need to see is
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
And you pretty much know where the post is going.
Go back and watch the Bears and Dolphins games.
Palmer was actually rather good in the Bears game. He didn’t have the TDs, but he made numerous key throws.
And Miami? Well, show me any Raider who had a good game.
Of course they need to run more…. Bush only ran 10 times in that game. The worst running team in the league runs more than 10 times.
And we’re a running team!
Wow.
If Palmer lights it up, will you go away for however long we’re winning for again?
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JC got to play with a healthy McFadden and healthy WRs….ever since Palmer got here the skill positions have been dropping like flies.
When this team is healthy, Palmer will give us exactly what we were missing, a legit threat at QB. Campbell played okay when the run game was going well, but when we couldn’t run we had no shot. With Palmer, he can carry the team for short periods and he can move the team down the field quickly when necessary.
I just hope we get to see it this season.
December 9th, 2011 at 2:20 pm
Speaking of the Warriors. Why were they so embarrassed to be called the Oakland Warriors? Why change to Golden State? It’s not like Oakland is a slum, or has a bad rep, or anything?
December 9th, 2011 at 2:20 pm
MR just jacked my muppet brain blastt from post #29
Unreal.
December 9th, 2011 at 2:21 pm
what do you mean you cant go deep? chaz murph and dhb are 4.3 burners. They do go deep. Have you been watching?
December 9th, 2011 at 2:21 pm
Just took another tour of the Kane & Associates web site for shiznits and giggles.
Man, if you’re ever down about anything (ran out of my top secret blended margarita mix), one look at Krappy’s page will surely brighten your day!
Krappy, did you smear Wite-Out on your chicklets to get that frostly shine?
December 9th, 2011 at 2:22 pm
The Giants are 6 & 6… Haven’t been lighting anyone up…. They almost beat the Pack..
Raiders 32…. Pack 25….
December 9th, 2011 at 2:22 pm
injuries are a very weak excuse. who ever is on the field the qb needs to hit them when they are open and it hasnt been happening. Hu Jack is smart to take the ball out of palmers hand because he has been sputtering.
December 9th, 2011 at 2:23 pm
Tramon Williams is small! and Chaz could body him up deep for jump balls, we need to exploit that.
December 9th, 2011 at 2:23 pm
MISTIC, 2 questions
1) Who do you think is a better QB, Carson Palmer or Jason Campbell?
2) What percentage of teams would choose Jason over Carson for next season?
December 9th, 2011 at 2:23 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
Wow, you guys are so sensitive about palmer. Its hilarious. He did not play well over the last two weeks, is it unfair to assert that if he plays poorly we will lose in gb? is it unfair to evaluate palmer?
We need him to play well or we have no shot, why does this idea bother you so?
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He played well in Chicago, just didn’t have crazy good stats.
It’s not unfair to assert if he plays poorly that we’ll have a toug time beating GB, but your whole angle is slanted and always has been.
I ask again:
If Palmer lights it up, will you go away for however long we’re winning for again?
December 9th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
72.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 2:21 pm
what do you mean you cant go deep? chaz murph and dhb are 4.3 burners. They do go deep. Have you been watching?
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Watch a game instead of looking at playing cards. Chaz and DHB have each ONE deep pass play…ALL YEAR. Possession recievers that gain RAC yards. Not saying thats bad…just need to mix it up with a Ford or DMoore. There is a difference between going deep and drawing attention (make more than 1 play all year) and going deep as a decoy…
December 9th, 2011 at 2:25 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 2:09 pm
45.morilla Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 2:07 pm
This is scary. Uggggg.
Line Reece up as a receiver.
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havent they been doing that all year? cuz he sure aint a FB like tonga is…all i told you a few weeks ago!
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No they haven’t. They did last week. That was the first time. They use him out of the backfield.
Reece scores points.
December 9th, 2011 at 2:25 pm
what do you mean you cant go deep? chaz murph and dhb are 4.3 burners. They do go deep. Have you been watching?
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Maybe when he was drafted, but I don’t see Chaz having 4.3 speed today.
DHB doesn’t go deep, or shouldn’t anyway.
Lots of progress but still very unnatural at times.
December 9th, 2011 at 2:25 pm
If a QB throws for more than 200 yards he is a better QB than Jason Campbell 90% of the time.
December 9th, 2011 at 2:25 pm
“If Palmer lights it up, will you go away for however long we’re winning for again?”
You are 100% correct that if Palmer has a great game, the other good news will be that we do not have to worry about seeing old Misty eyes in here crying over JC’s injury for a while!
December 9th, 2011 at 2:25 pm
Palmer hit Murph on a deep route aginst the Bears…. DHB can fly…. Not so sure about Schilens but he can move the chains and fight for the ball..
December 9th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
baumraiders Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 2:23 pm
MISTIC, 2 questions
1) Who do you think is a better QB, Carson Palmer or Jason Campbell?
2) What percentage of teams would choose Jason over Carson for next season?
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im talking about palmer, jc is injured and notin the mix at all. if he didnt get hurt palmer wouldnt even be here.
not sure why yo bring him up, we need palmer to improve or our season is over
December 9th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
Morilla, they’ve put Reece at WR several times throughout the year. Bears game more than once.
December 9th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 2:22 pm
injuries are a very weak excuse. who ever is on the field the qb needs to hit them when they are open and it hasnt been happening.
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Ok…so we should expect the same results from Brady if we put him on the Browns…
What a dumb@ss…
December 9th, 2011 at 2:27 pm
injuries as a reasonable excuse when it’s 80% of our playmakers hurt at any given time…Palmer IMO would be lighting it up if all was healthy
December 9th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
baumraiders Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 2:23 pm
MISTIC, 2 questions
1) Who do you think is a better QB, Carson Palmer or Jason Campbell?
2) What percentage of teams would choose Jason over Carson for next season?
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im talking about palmer, jc is injured and notin the mix at all. if he didnt get hurt palmer wouldnt even be here.
not sure why yo bring him up, we need palmer to improve or our season is over
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ITs just 2 questions, I mean if you think Campbell is the better QB ok, we all know you think he is, but please answer question # 2 please
December 9th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
ElkGRaider Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
72.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 2:21 pm
what do you mean you cant go deep? chaz murph and dhb are 4.3 burners. They do go deep. Have you been watching?
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Watch a game instead of looking at playing cards. Chaz and DHB have each ONE deep pass play…ALL YEAR. Possession recievers that gain RAC yards. Not saying thats bad…just need to mix it up with a Ford or DMoore. There is a difference between going deep and drawing attention (make more than 1 play all year) and going deep as a decoy…
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elk murph chaz and dhb have been targeted deep this year, because they can run. You take that we dont have any deep threats just isnt true
December 9th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
Palmer and Pryor are the Raiders QB’s of the present and future.
Get in line with it or leave but please stop complaining about it you sound like a chargers fan…seriously Mystic its annoying that you are so against one of our players.
Shut up and go to the chargers blog already!
December 9th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
Thec07 Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 2:04 pm
Raider will defeat GB…No doubt about it…
This will be the first complte game we play this year.
For the doubters you will be eating a lot of crow schit
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There’s a thing in Vegas called smart money, and it has the Packers by 11. So if you want to hang your big balls out there why don’t you bet the farm on this game? Post your bet here and let us all genuflect on Sunday when you’re proven to be the last Nostradamus on Earth to make such a ridiculous prediction.
December 9th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
That’s right… Schilens has a bumb foot .. But he can still move the chains and has very good hands..
December 9th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
Palmer’s gonna be fine.
He’s going to war.
He’s not soft like 50% of the ‘fans’ in here.
December 9th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
LA To TheBay Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
Morilla, they’ve put Reece at WR several times throughout the year. Bears game more than once.
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I missed that and I was there, haha
December 9th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
65.Master Beeecham Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 2:16 pm
Brian the Genital, remind everyone again how only jcats shop for jimmmies at CVS.
Don’t think I’ll ever get tired of that “instant blog dork classic”!
Is it too late to get a few smacks in on Krappy, or did the old trolling goat run for the hills (more like waddle) already?
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lame…you dont get 12 packs of mags at 7-11…u are a certified jcat
December 9th, 2011 at 2:30 pm
yeah unlike the dolphins game, Hue needs to utilize Reece much more in this game …no excuse
December 9th, 2011 at 2:30 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 2:25 pm
“If Palmer lights it up, will you go away for however long we’re winning for again?”
You are 100% correct that if Palmer has a great game, the other good news will be that we do not have to worry about seeing old Misty eyes in here crying over JC’s injury for a while!
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i was here when palmer beat the chargers, ill be her if he wins again. I dont see the issue with being concerned about his performance. he has played 1 good game so far and over his last 22 starts he hasnt been very good. Some how this really bothers people when i voice concerns over it.
December 9th, 2011 at 2:31 pm
82.morilla Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 2:25 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 2:09 pm
45.morilla Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 2:07 pm
This is scary. Uggggg.
Line Reece up as a receiver.
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havent they been doing that all year? cuz he sure aint a FB like tonga is…all i told you a few weeks ago!
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No they haven’t. They did last week. That was the first time. They use him out of the backfield.
Reece scores points.
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fool maybe you didnt catch the sarcasm….typical for most who live in SDarea i guess…cept Thec
December 9th, 2011 at 2:31 pm
A lot of you so-called “true raider fans”, get pushed more out of shape by what someone says, than a loss on Sunday’s.
December 9th, 2011 at 2:31 pm
I have another question NOT involving Palmer.
Jason was under contract for this year, lets assume that we don’t trade for palmer and Boller takes us to a 6-10 season (we were 4-2 when Jason went down). Do you sign him for another 3 years and about 30 million dollars with that “many” games as evidence that he is a franchise QB? or would you have signed another QB or drafted one?
December 9th, 2011 at 2:32 pm
elk murph chaz and dhb have been targeted deep this year, because they can run. You take that we dont have any deep threats just isnt true
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TARGETED deep and MAKING PLAYS deep are two different things. Ford and DMoore made plays…hence starting WR’s. If you look now…we get single coverage on the edges with token help over the top. Teams are not as scared…
This leads to stacking the box and pressing short routes…
I really dont think you watch the games. You get the condensed version from the ESPN crew…
December 9th, 2011 at 2:32 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
Palmer and Pryor are the Raiders QB’s of the present and futur
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well then as a fan im free to evaluate their games, and write about it here. If the truth of a poor performance bothers you that much, it cant be helped.
December 9th, 2011 at 2:33 pm
“fool maybe you didnt catch the sarcasm….typical for most who live in SDarea i guess…cept Thec”
jeez man settle down. I know Tonga can block. I’ve already agreed to that. I just want to see more Reece. Last week was unacceptable.
December 9th, 2011 at 2:33 pm
68.Sullivan44 Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 2:18 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 12:45 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
Wait, Oakland has an NBA team called the warriors?
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Yeah Buddy. In case you didn’t know, they play at the exact same location where the Oakland A’s and the Oakland Raiders play.
Oakland is the ONLY city in California that hosts a professional Football, Baseball, and Basketball team.
Nuff said. The rest of y’all are playin catch up.
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Actually, muppet brain, they don’t. Warriors play in the Arena, not the coliseum.
Hey, I was hoping you could explain to everyone how you are 100% positive that the league contacted the Vikings, and told them to throw the game. Where everyone on the Vikings laid down like dogs, just because the league wanted them to. Those were your words, muppet, not mine.
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Dummy its the coliseum complex….fk do you think the arena was called for many years? Oakland-Coliseum Arena…..dumbfk…and its the same address you dummy!
December 9th, 2011 at 2:34 pm
99.marader508 Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 2:30 pm
yeah unlike the dolphins game, Hue needs to utilize Reece much more in this game …no excuse
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as long as he aint lead blocking
December 9th, 2011 at 2:34 pm
#101 go after Peyton Manning, if they drafted Luck…I always defended Cambell, when Grads Trolls were out and about…but im not sure i would make him our Franchise QB.
December 9th, 2011 at 2:34 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 2:31 pm
A lot of you so-called “true raider fans”, get pushed more out of shape by what someone says, than a loss on Sunday’s.
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For some on here, it’s check all reasoning at the door. They define their loyalty by it, and want to close the door behind them. I got 40 years in to my credit, and don’t have to listen to half the bs that gets posted on here.
December 9th, 2011 at 2:36 pm
ElkGRaider Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 2:32 pm
elk murph chaz and dhb have been targeted deep this year, because they can run. You take that we dont have any deep threats just isnt true
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TARGETED deep and MAKING PLAYS deep are two different things. Ford and DMoore made plays…hence starting WR’s. If you look now…we get single coverage on the edges with token help over the top. Teams are not as scared…
This leads to stacking the box and pressing short routes…
I really dont think you watch the games. You get the condensed version from the ESPN crew…
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so your putting the blame on the recievers? they have the speed to get deep, i havnt seen any drops by them on deep passes. So how is it on the recievers? i did see palmer underthrow dhb last week though. Not only did he miss deep but he missed intermediate sideline throws too. I watch every game and draw my own conclusions it protects me from hype that so many of you are fools for
December 9th, 2011 at 2:37 pm
Ohioraider Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 2:34 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 2:31 pm
A lot of you so-called “true raider fans”, get pushed more out of shape by what someone says, than a loss on Sunday’s.
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For some on here, it’s check all reasoning at the door. They define their loyalty by it, and want to close the door behind them. I got 40 years in to my credit, and don’t have to listen to half the bs that gets posted on here.
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So true. Right there with you.
Of course I would like to see a win this Sunday, but I really don’t see it happening. Reality check. This is the Packers. I just hope they come out inspired and put on a good show.
December 9th, 2011 at 2:38 pm
” Do you sign him for another 3 years and about 30 million dollars with that “many” games as evidence that he is a franchise QB? or would you have signed another QB or drafted one?”
There is a reason why the Redskins gave up on him and are now using Rex Grossman.
He was a good stop gap player for us but that’s about it if you ask me.
December 9th, 2011 at 2:38 pm
KK Munster,
Al been pushing you out of shape since the 70’s.
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KoolKell Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 2:31 pm
A lot of you so-called “true raider fans”, get pushed more out of shape by what someone says, than a loss on Sunday’s.
December 9th, 2011 at 2:39 pm
Marader508, So if the colts cut Manning before his 28 million bonus, I suppose he is not healthy, I mean, if he was, I would sit Luck on the bench for 2 to 3 years, learning from one of the best if not the best, while still getting 3 years of playoff football with Manning and then getting 10+ years of playoffs with Luck (Aaron Rodgers – Brett Favre). So if Manning is available because he was cut, then I think he aint worth it. Especially because of the huge signing bonus he would command and because you have Palmer here.
December 9th, 2011 at 2:39 pm
http://www.coliseum.com/
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Hey MR…go to the sports tab and see what they show you dummy
December 9th, 2011 at 2:41 pm
“well then as a fan im free to evaluate their games, and write about it here. If the truth of a poor performance bothers you that much, it cant be helped.”
So one more time….You and Hue Jackson are no longer in “Lock Step”
Because that was your mantra the first 6 games!
Now I told you that Andy Dalton was going to be good so I OWN YOU and Andy Dalton OWNS YOU!!!!
December 9th, 2011 at 2:41 pm
http://www.coliseum.com/events/sports.php
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I’ll help you MR…..lol too easy to drag n mop you
December 9th, 2011 at 2:41 pm
666, I know, but forget the redskins years, I´m talking about his raiders 1.5 years in which he was mediocre. Mistic thinks he is in the top 10 of QBs in the league (he would command 10 million a year if he fit in that group)
December 9th, 2011 at 2:42 pm
Like you said , a good stop gap QB
December 9th, 2011 at 2:42 pm
#113
i answered the question as if ..we never traded for Palmer…If JC went down and Boller stunk it up this year , i would have made a play for manning , and use our 1st round pick to darft a qb , maybe RGIII
December 9th, 2011 at 2:42 pm
J. Campbell = stop gap QB
December 9th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
106.morilla Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 2:33 pm
“fool maybe you didnt catch the sarcasm….typical for most who live in SDarea i guess…cept Thec”
jeez man settle down. I know Tonga can block. I’ve already agreed to that. I just want to see more Reece. Last week was unacceptable.
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AS A PASS CATCHER NOT AT FB!
December 9th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
MistaBrown Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 2:38 pm
KK,
Al been pushing you out of shape since the 70’s.
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Nope, only since around 2002. But he’s dead now, ok?
December 9th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
oops you are right
December 9th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
Would you trade 3 first for Luck?
December 9th, 2011 at 2:44 pm
122.baumraiders Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 2:42 pm
J. Campbell = stop gap QB
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SO IS PALMER UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE
December 9th, 2011 at 2:44 pm
Im not sure if palmer has the minerals to shake off his poor play. I hope he can turn it around but the evidence is mounting against him. Im hoping he can somehow have a comeback otherwise we are finished this year and stuck with a lemon for the foreseeable future
December 9th, 2011 at 2:45 pm
Palmer is not the issue, our defence is I am stating to imagine how we would look if Marshall was still dc with pretty much the same team and the great al Davis not limiting his calls and blitzes. Defence looks out of place, mix in the 3-4 we have the players for it, fuccck It’s so frustrating.
December 9th, 2011 at 2:45 pm
119.baumraiders Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 2:41 pm
666, I know, but forget the redskins years, I´m talking about his raiders 1.5 years in which he was mediocre. Mistic thinks he is in the top 10 of QBs in the league (he would command 10 million a year if he fit in that group)
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11-7 is above mediocre
December 9th, 2011 at 2:45 pm
125, yeah but doesn’t Palmer give you more confidence if (IF) we were to advance to the playoffs than Jason? Or like when we can’t run the ball?
December 9th, 2011 at 2:45 pm
#124
I really love LUCK…but i also loved David Carr…im not the best to answer that..LoL…
December 9th, 2011 at 2:46 pm
so your putting the blame on the recievers?
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Yes…hes missing his top 2 WR’s
Has a bunch of recievers that are good at short/intermediate routes. Need a threat…otherwise the D creeps up and Palmer gets pressured…
Dont know why Im debating this. Palmer is better than JC (quick release, checkoffs, leadership). And he came off his couch in the middle of a season. He was worth the trade for the simple fact we dont have to deal with JC “WTF” plays…
December 9th, 2011 at 2:46 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 2:41 pm
“well then as a fan im free to evaluate their games, and write about it here. If the truth of a poor performance bothers you that much, it cant be helped.”
So one more time….You and Hue Jackson are no longer in “Lock Step”
Because that was your mantra the first 6 games!
Now I told you that Andy Dalton was going to be good so I OWN YOU and Andy Dalton OWNS YOU!!!!
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how pathetic, I have never said dalton wasnt good, i said he wasnt in cams class, and he isnt.
December 9th, 2011 at 2:46 pm
And i think until further notice also means, until he has DMAC, FORD, and MOORE at the same time
December 9th, 2011 at 2:46 pm
MR…any response on the Coliseum thing?
December 9th, 2011 at 2:46 pm
Just hope the Raiders can win the last 3 games.
Not very hopeful about this game considering the injuries, being on the road, and the fact its the Packers.
If Ford, Moore, and McFadden can get back on the field next week, they can make a run.
December 9th, 2011 at 2:46 pm
135.baumraiders Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 2:46 pm
And i think until further notice also means, until he has DMAC, FORD, and MOORE at the same time
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yawwwwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnn to the excuses
December 9th, 2011 at 2:47 pm
137.wasbanned Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 2:46 pm
Just hope the Raiders can win the last 3 games.
Not very hopeful about this game considering the injuries, being on the road, and the fact its the Packers.
If Ford, Moore, and McFadden can get back on the field next week, they can make a run.
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wimp
December 9th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
133.ElkGRaider Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 2:46 pm
so your putting the blame on the recievers?
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Yes…hes missing his top 2 WR’s
Has a bunch of recievers that are good at short/intermediate routes. Need a threat…otherwise the D creeps up and Palmer gets pressured…
Dont know why Im debating this. Palmer is better than JC (quick release, checkoffs, leadership). And he came off his couch in the middle of a season. He was worth the trade for the simple fact we dont have to deal with JC “WTF” plays…
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no just the carosn WTH plays now…pick 6 king
December 9th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
“Mistic thinks he is in the top 10 of QBs in the league (he would command 10 million a year if he fit in that group)”
Mystic would also fondles his sack and slurp the sweat from his jock. I have never in all of my life seen one person so animate about an average player.
So to answer your question the answer is no Hue would have drafted or traded for a QB. Hue was done with JC and couldn’t wait to get someone else in there.
December 9th, 2011 at 2:49 pm
#133
absolutely…I like JC, he’s a straight up guy played with a lot of heart, but Palmer is an obvious upgrade…let him play with our healthy WMD’s
December 9th, 2011 at 2:49 pm
ben played thru a high ankle sprain but a mid foot sprain has kept mcfrsgile out for how long now? not even kaufman would get hurt like mcfragile….
December 9th, 2011 at 2:50 pm
DEATHROW 55 Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 2:45 pm
Palmer is not the issue, our defence is
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the defense has always been an issue, it was the same defense we had when we were 4-2 also. that isnt the difference. The difference has been the alarming amount of turn overs , the 3 and out drive stalls, and failure to score in two minute and 4th quarter, the qb sacks and failure to establish the run
December 9th, 2011 at 2:50 pm
130, even the best semipros are wrong LOL
December 9th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
145.baumraiders Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 2:50 pm
130, even the best semipros are wrong LOL
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im not a semi pro….i’m one of the few mercenaries of the blog
December 9th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
“how pathetic, I have never said dalton wasnt good, i said he wasnt in cams class, and he isnt.”
No he is not Newton is 4-8 and Dalton is headed to the playoffs.
Jerry Richardson spent a ton of cash trying to upgrade the Panthers and we all know what kind of ownership the Bengals have.
Dalton had a bigger hill to climb to be a winner than Newton even Ray Charles can see that.
So again you are wrong and I own you and Andy Dalton Owns you.
December 9th, 2011 at 2:52 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
“Mistic thinks he is in the top 10 of QBs in the league (he would command 10 million a year if he fit in that group)”
Mystic would also fondles his sack and slurp the sweat from his jock. I have never in all of my life seen one person so animate about an average player.
So to answer your question the answer is no Hue would have drafted or traded for a QB. Hue was done with JC and couldn’t wait to get someone else in there.
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pure speculation, but why are you obssesed with jc? i was talking about palmer and the here and now, not an injured qb.
December 9th, 2011 at 2:54 pm
qb’s first 4 starts, and yes I’ll include Cp in Denver:
JC
yds-509
comp %-55.78
avg-5.86
Td-2
int-4
rating-60.21
CP
yds-1096
comp %-63.75
avg-9.93
Td-6
int-5
qb rating-96.15
any questions?
December 9th, 2011 at 2:54 pm
All of us have different opinions, like for me, the fact that Mannings team is 0-12 without him (besides being better when he plays also), makes him better than Brady for example. Bellichick is one hell of a coach, the best, and with Cassell he went 11-5.
Lets just agree to disagree. Mistic like Campbell conservative play better than Palmers more aggressive style. Thats fine with me
December 9th, 2011 at 2:55 pm
So you and Hue Jackson are no longer in “Lock Step”?
December 9th, 2011 at 2:56 pm
149.inonewordraider Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 2:54 pm
qb’s first 4 starts, and yes I’ll include Cp in Denver:
JC
yds-509
comp %-55.78
avg-5.86
Td-2
int-4
rating-60.21
CP
yds-1096
comp %-63.75
avg-9.93
Td-6
int-5
qb rating-96.15
any questions?
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yeah why has palmer tossed 17 carrer pick sixes?
December 9th, 2011 at 2:56 pm
Gradkowski < Boller
JC < Gradkowski
Palmer < JC
Bottom line
PS – Grandma < Jamarcus
December 9th, 2011 at 2:56 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
“how pathetic, I have never said dalton wasnt good, i said he wasnt in cams class, and he isnt.”
No he is not Newton is 4-8 and Dalton is headed to the playoffs.
Jerry Richardson spent a ton of cash trying to upgrade the Panthers and we all know what kind of ownership the Bengals have.
Dalton had a bigger hill to climb to be a winner than Newton even Ray Charles can see that.
So again you are wrong and I own you and Andy Dalton Owns you.
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you really shouldnt drink while posting.
the bengals retuned almoist an entire team from last year, when they were projected to go deep into the playoffs. Only they and palmer melted down and failed.
The panther were 2-14 last year and projected to finish at the bottom. the bungles have a far better defense and team around dalton. gradkowski could lead the bungles to the play offs, but if you remove cam from the panthers they would be 0-16. Rookie head coach and cam beyond that the cupboard is bare.
Cam is head and shoulders the best qb in last years draft
December 9th, 2011 at 2:56 pm
qb’s first 4 starts, and yes I’ll include Cp in Denver:
JC
yds-509
comp %-55.78
avg-5.86
Td-2
int-4
rating-60.21
CP
yds-1096
comp %-63.75
avg-9.93
Td-6
int-5
qb rating-96.15
sorry did I just repost this?
December 9th, 2011 at 2:56 pm
Mistic,
It would be nice if you Judged Palmer and JC equally.
(1) When the trade went through, you dug up all the dirt published about Palmer from players, fans, coaches and the owner. When people brought up the dirt from JC, you said that they were biased against black QBs and the information must be false.
(2) When JC struggled his first 6-7 games, you said he was just learning the offense and or/ it was the offense line fault. When Palmer Struggled without training camp, pre-season and missing part of the regular season…read above.
December 9th, 2011 at 2:56 pm
149.inonewordraider Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 2:54 pm
qb’s first 4 starts, and yes I’ll include Cp in Denver:
JC
yds-509
comp %-55.78
avg-5.86
Td-2
int-4
rating-60.21
CP
yds-1096
comp %-63.75
avg-9.93
Td-6
int-5
qb rating-96.15
any questions?
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also talk about carson’s start vs denver stunk the place up with 3 picks that started denvers streak
December 9th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
150, Because he is not captain check down . LOL
He is just more aggressive in his throws. Favre is an all time great, and the all time leader in INT also. Does that make him a bad QB?
December 9th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
yeah why has palmer tossed 17 carrer pick sixes?
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you can’t deny the #’s, they aren’t even close
December 9th, 2011 at 2:59 pm
Offense is injured in all the wrong spots they have an excuse to look flat, our defence is pretty much healthy so no excuse for those slackers besides shonasty being on ir.
December 9th, 2011 at 3:00 pm
159.inonewordraider Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
yeah why has palmer tossed 17 carrer pick sixes?
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you can’t deny the #’s, they aren’t even close
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yes i can easily dispute anything buddy….palmer is not a an elite qb…no where close as you morons in here claimed…..Hue banked his season on this fker and he better win dammit
and stats are very misleading…tragically misleading
December 9th, 2011 at 3:01 pm
Palmers is not ELITE, no way, BUT he is way better the Campbell IMO
December 9th, 2011 at 3:01 pm
Palmer *
December 9th, 2011 at 3:01 pm
inonewordraider Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 2:54 pm
qb’s first 4 starts, and yes I’ll include Cp in Denver:
JC
yds-509
comp %-55.78
avg-5.86
Td-2
int-4
rating-60.21
CP
yds-1096
comp %-63.75
avg-9.93
Td-6
int-5
qb rating-96.15
any questions?
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why are you still trying to compare?
why would you only look at the first 4 starts? they have both played more than 4 games, so your post is worthless contrived garbage meant to support your claim.
besides Jc isnt in the mix he is hurt, im only concerned about palmers performance, he is the qb for better or for worse, and its been mainly worse
December 9th, 2011 at 3:01 pm
ineone….its worse how yall bash jc in here and yet palmer given a pass and has balled out really in one game that he still had two TOs in!
December 9th, 2011 at 3:02 pm
162.baumraiders Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 3:01 pm
Palmers is not ELITE, no way, BUT he is way better the Campbell IMO
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based on what?…fail at explaining so i can easily slice you in twade
December 9th, 2011 at 3:02 pm
yeah the defense need the big fix next year…bring in a “real” DC and dump Kelly move Houston inside move Wimbley at DE opposite Shonasty and sign a stud OLB to replace Wimbley, draft DT to eventually replace Seymour
December 9th, 2011 at 3:02 pm
Palmer didnt have OTA, training camp, preseason game, week 1-6.
Campbell did with the same players 2 years
December 9th, 2011 at 3:03 pm
JC and Palmer in 2011 is a wash as far as qb goes for oakland
December 9th, 2011 at 3:03 pm
168.baumraiders Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 3:02 pm
Palmer didnt have OTA, training camp, preseason game, week 1-6.
Campbell did with the same players 2 years
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excuse time…..why didnt palmer have ots,training camp and preseason or play in first 6 weeks?
December 9th, 2011 at 3:04 pm
Palmer is a better pure passer than JC, but, he takes too many sacks, throws too many int’s, and can’t make any plays with his legs.
December 9th, 2011 at 3:05 pm
Sooner or later we’ll get to see Palmer with all the starters and then we can evaluate….
..remember , Palmer hasn’t played with a healthy team yet….
I can’t wait to see it…. But I guess I’ll have to..
December 9th, 2011 at 3:06 pm
yes i can easily dispute anything buddy….palmer is not a an elite qb…no where close as you morons in here claimed…..Hue banked his season on this fker and he better win dammit
and stats are very misleading…tragically misleading
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ok palmer hasn’t proved he’s consistently elite this year I agree and Stats can be misleading I agree but your boy Mistic loved to use stats to prove how good JC was then goes and bashes CP yet Carsons stats say he’s a better qb. U say it’s a wash i disagree but no way can Mistic claim JC is noticeably better when he loves to use stats and the stats say otherwise, agree?
December 9th, 2011 at 3:06 pm
#169
i will agree with that…Palmer has made our o-line look mediocre…JC made plays with his legs , disguising our average o line
December 9th, 2011 at 3:06 pm
Isn’t the real issue the price paid for CP, as opposed to is he better than JC or not?
I mean if we could have missed the playoffs with Boller.
December 9th, 2011 at 3:06 pm
Well the way to get the ball moving would probably to get Reece involced. Early.
With Ford & Jones & Mcfadden out, our best speed-burner on the field will be DHB. Get him involed in some bubble-screens and reverses at the right times.
We need to be extremely creative offensively agianst this team to have a chance.
Myers outplayed Boss last game and could be a better option. Schilens also looks good on 3rd down.
December 9th, 2011 at 3:08 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 3:04 pm
Palmer is a better pure passer than JC, but, he takes too many sacks, throws too many int’s, and can’t make any plays with his legs.
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KK,
I think this is fair. Davis is gone now we have palmer bootlickers instead
December 9th, 2011 at 3:08 pm
168.
OK maybe you are right, Palmers performance this 5 games hasn’t been so much better than JC, but answer this please.
2 minutes left in the 4th quarter trailing by 4. Who do you give the ball to, JC or CP?
December 9th, 2011 at 3:08 pm
Mistic, you were an AD bootlicker
December 9th, 2011 at 3:09 pm
So was I LOL
December 9th, 2011 at 3:09 pm
HueKnows Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 3:06 pm
Isn’t the real issue the price paid for CP, as opposed to is he better than JC or not?
I mean if we could have missed the playoffs with Boller.
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this is the crux of the issue. Why debate who is better when one is injured and unavailable?
December 9th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
Carson Palmer has won the AFC North division twice….that is saying something when you consider who else is in that division.
Correct me if I am wrong, but I think the only time a Campbell team made the playoffs was when Campbell got hurt.
December 9th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
its worse how yall bash jc
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I thought JC was a great trade for a 4th rounder the 2nd it was done I remember SNB was saying the same schit and alotta ppl were talkin mess. I was dissapointed with JC but toward the end of the year he really started playing better and looked solid this year. No one should be bashing JC nor Mistic that’s my problem with Mistic bashing CP when CP is at least as good as JC while at the same time he was calling JC a top 10 qb
December 9th, 2011 at 3:11 pm
the pricetag for Palmer is only really high if we WIN a playoff game…i for one want badly to win a playoff game at any cost…f**k the draft , i spent the last 10 years watching us draft in the top 10, i will happily give up a 2 first round picks to be relevent again in January , Feburary
December 9th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
178.baumraiders Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 3:08 pm
168.
OK maybe you are right, Palmers performance this 5 games hasn’t been so much better than JC, but answer this please.
2 minutes left in the 4th quarter trailing by 4. Who do you give the ball to, JC or CP?
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Depends on the defense…now im on record saying Cp would beat the ravens and steelers but other defenses i aint so sure
December 9th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
MistaBrown Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 2:09 pm
Whats up with the sausage fest in here today ?
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Since you are always talking about reach arounds and yanking on dudes chains it’s pretty obvious. But what would ever give you the impression any real live earth female would be caught within 10,000 miles of you?
December 9th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
no one should be bashing JC nor CP
December 9th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
183.inonewordraider Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
its worse how yall bash jc
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I thought JC was a great trade for a 4th rounder the 2nd it was done I remember SNB was saying the same schit and alotta ppl were talkin mess. I was dissapointed with JC but toward the end of the year he really started playing better and looked solid this year. No one should be bashing JC nor Mistic that’s my problem with Mistic bashing CP when CP is at least as good as JC while at the same time he was calling JC a top 10 qb
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neither are top 10 material
December 9th, 2011 at 3:13 pm
Want curry to smash Rogers like he smashed sd’s LT wish we had a player on d that could jack up our team when we need to make a play like on 3rd downs, some one needs to step up!
December 9th, 2011 at 3:13 pm
Everyone always says 1st round picks are just a crapshoot blah blah blah..but don’t all of you watch the draft to see who we pick and speculate months in advance?
December 9th, 2011 at 3:14 pm
I thought JC was a great trade for a 4th rounder the 2nd it was done I remember SNB was saying the same schit and alotta ppl were talkin mess. I was dissapointed with JC but toward the end of the year he really started playing better and looked solid this year. No one should be bashing JC nor Mistic that’s my problem with Mistic bashing CP when CP is at least as good as JC while at the same time he was calling JC a top 10 qb
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GREAT POST!
December 9th, 2011 at 3:14 pm
182.Dakota Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
Carson Palmer has won the AFC North division twice….that is saying something when you consider who else is in that division.
Correct me if I am wrong, but I think the only time a Campbell team made the playoffs was when Campbell got hurt.
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Palmer 0-2 in playoffs….aint won schit ever in his life
December 9th, 2011 at 3:15 pm
#188
yeah for 10 years str8…do like winning or yearly drafts?
December 9th, 2011 at 3:15 pm
ok Method let me put in another way:
Do you want ppl come in here talkin about DHB not having hands after he’s soldiered up for us?
Or what about saying Seymour is done when we’re playing GB this week?
We’re playing GB this week, we’re in the playoff hunt, and ppl want to come in and bash my QB, I’m not with that. WE’RE GONNA SMASH THOSE MUTHAFU#KS
December 9th, 2011 at 3:16 pm
I think Palmer is capable of beating any defense, Obviously not very easy, I said capable, but I’m not guaranteeing he would do it. But i guarantee that JC is not capable of engineering a 90 yard drive against BALT, PITT, 49ers, or any defense like that.
December 9th, 2011 at 3:17 pm
Marader508 Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 3:11 pm
the pricetag for Palmer is only really high if we WIN a playoff game…i for one want badly to win a playoff game at any cost…f**k the draft , i spent the last 10 years watching us draft in the top 10, i will happily give up a 2 first round picks to be relevent again in January , Feburary
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If we don’t make the playoffs then was it worth it?
December 9th, 2011 at 3:17 pm
194.inonewordraider Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 3:15 pm
ok Method let me put in another way:
Do you want ppl come in here talkin about DHB not having hands after he’s soldiered up for us?
Or what about saying Seymour is done when we’re playing GB this week?
We’re playing GB this week, we’re in the playoff hunt, and ppl want to come in and bash my QB, I’m not with that. WE’RE GONNA SMASH THOSE MUTHAFU#KS
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Guy turns it over alot…those are facts..as i been saying all week..we will win…never got off that
December 9th, 2011 at 3:18 pm
Mistic is correct in his constant hits on CP since JC took worse from people in here…we even had someone using racial remarks on his name cuz they hated him so much…even had people say he would fail
December 9th, 2011 at 3:19 pm
#194
if we dont WIN W….I…..N… WIN a playoff game its just one 1st rounder…and Palmer for 1 1st round pick is worth it…best QB this team has had since Gannon…
December 9th, 2011 at 3:19 pm
7000 Coliseum Way
Oakland, CA 94621
Hey MR who’s address is this…A’s,Raiders or warriors? or all of the above? Still waiting on your reply
December 9th, 2011 at 3:20 pm
ive seen worst 1st round picks before thats sure…
December 9th, 2011 at 3:20 pm
i think Jason Campbell could’ve taken us to the playoffs but not to the promise land IMHO
December 9th, 2011 at 3:20 pm
199.marader508 Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 3:19 pm
#194
if we dont WIN W….I…..N… WIN a playoff game its just one 1st rounder…and Palmer for 1 1st round pick is worth it…best QB this team has had since Gannon…
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fk gannon that loser
December 9th, 2011 at 3:21 pm
202.baumraiders Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 3:20 pm
i think Jason Campbell could’ve taken us to the playoffs but not to the promise land IMHO
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Disagree…Palmer hasnt proved who could either
December 9th, 2011 at 3:21 pm
197 I know what the deal is. The question is if we don’t MAKE M..A..K..E.. the playoffs then is it worth it?
December 9th, 2011 at 3:22 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 3:20 pm
199.marader508 Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 3:19 pm
#194
if we dont WIN W….I…..N… WIN a playoff game its just one 1st rounder…and Palmer for 1 1st round pick is worth it…best QB this team has had since Gannon…
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fk gannon that loser
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Gannon was great. You are a piece of sh*t.
December 9th, 2011 at 3:22 pm
baumraiders Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 3:08 pm
168.
OK maybe you are right, Palmers performance this 5 games hasn’t been so much better than JC, but answer this please.
2 minutes left in the 4th quarter trailing by 4. Who do you give the ball to, JC or CP?
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bum, i dont know why you want to talk about jc but since you asked.
palmer in the 4th quarter 2011 12-20 176 yds 9 longest cmp 47 yards)60 % cmp 0td 1int 67.9 rating
jc 4th quarter 2011 14-21 240 yards (longest completion 50 yards) 66.7 cmp % 3td 1 int(hail mary in buffalo) 0 sacks rating of 125. He also has a rushing td
so as you can see Jc was absolute money in the clutch and palmer has been less than mediocre.
Jc gets the ball ojn my team and it isnt even worth discussion.
December 9th, 2011 at 3:22 pm
no dmac no ford no moore, you’re gonna see how good palmer is 2morrow, gonna light GB up
December 9th, 2011 at 3:22 pm
What would you prefer this year, to miss the playoffs at 8-8 or have a shot at Andrew Luck at 0-12 ? LOL
December 9th, 2011 at 3:23 pm
Yep. We’ve got to pound the rock as much as possible and then get creative in the passing game.
We’re taking a knife to a gun fight with all of the injuires on offense.
We may have an advantage in that we are not familiar to GB.
December 9th, 2011 at 3:23 pm
206.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 3:22 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 3:20 pm
199.marader508 Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 3:19 pm
#194
if we dont WIN W….I…..N… WIN a playoff game its just one 1st rounder…and Palmer for 1 1st round pick is worth it…best QB this team has had since Gannon…
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fk gannon that loser
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Gannon was great. You are a piece of sh*t.
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limited qbs arent great
December 9th, 2011 at 3:23 pm
197.marader508 Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 3:19 pm
#194
if we dont WIN W….I…..N… WIN a playoff game its just one 1st rounder…and Palmer for 1 1st round pick is worth it…best QB this team has had since Gannon…
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Don’t we have to make it to the AFC Championship game for the pick to become a first rounder? So unless we somehow get a bye, then we will have to win 2 playoff games for that pick to be converted right?
Unlikely, so no worries, but if we do, then it was well worth it. win win
December 9th, 2011 at 3:23 pm
209.baumraiders Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 3:22 pm
What would you prefer this year, to miss the playoffs at 8-8 or have a shot at Andrew Luck at 0-12 ? LOL
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Luck aint all that
December 9th, 2011 at 3:24 pm
mistic, thank you, that was all I wanted to know, no problem with you, you have your guy and about 99% of us have the other.
December 9th, 2011 at 3:24 pm
Lets me start again Method.
What would you prefer this year, to miss the playoffs at 8-8 or have a shot at the best player available at 0-12 ? LOL
December 9th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
Jc gets the ball ojn my team and it isnt even worth discussion.
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What team is that?
Seattle?
December 9th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
203.HueKnows Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 3:21 pm
197 I know what the deal is. The question is if we don’t MAKE M..A..K..E.. the playoffs then is it worth it?
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If we don’t make the playoffs this year was the trade worth it? A 1st rounder and 2nd rounder for a legit starting QB for 5 years? Yeah, it is worth it.
If we don’t make the playoff this year it is on the defense, and the up and down o-line and because of injuries.
December 9th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
I’m more concerned about the defense than offense for the Greenbay game..
They keep it close… We can win…
December 9th, 2011 at 3:27 pm
Gannon was great. You are a piece of sh*t.
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limited qbs arent great
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What was limited about him? Because he didn’t have the strong arm that Davis likes? Give me a break. Strong arms don’t win games. Gannon didn’t lose that Super Bowl, and you know it. That Super Bowl was lost because of Al Davis’ ego. He thought he could win without Gruden, he was wrong.
December 9th, 2011 at 3:28 pm
inonewordraider Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
its worse how yall bash jc
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I thought JC was a great trade for a 4th rounder the 2nd it was done I remember SNB was saying the same schit and alotta ppl were talkin mess. I was dissapointed with JC but toward the end of the year he really started playing better and looked solid this year. No one should be bashing JC nor Mistic that’s my problem with Mistic bashing CP when CP is at least as good as JC while at the same time he was calling JC a top 10 qb
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pointing out flaws in his game debunking the instant upgrade theory and being honest about performance isnt bashing palmer.
its just accepting reality and keepn’ it 100
December 9th, 2011 at 3:28 pm
215.baumraiders Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 3:24 pm
Lets me start again Method.
What would you prefer this year, to miss the playoffs at 8-8 or have a shot at the best player available at 0-12 ? LOL
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neither
December 9th, 2011 at 3:28 pm
I forget, who on this blog thought that Boller was a good backup?
Who thought Boller would be fine if JC went down?
December 9th, 2011 at 3:28 pm
Debating Gannon?
Still?
December 9th, 2011 at 3:29 pm
This is our most important game probably since week one against Denver. Win and were in the driver’s seat for a playoff spot; Lose and we’re sniffing another 8-8 season.
December 9th, 2011 at 3:29 pm
I learned to really like JC and he came thru in critical moments but he was on the losing end for us in big games as well. Jacksonville and Indy were huge games for our playoff hopes last year both L’s of course he did come thru clutch vs KC. NE this year was a game to see if we were ready to beat the big boys and he threw two critical picks. CP didn’t will us to win in Miami but he lit it up in the biggest game we’ve won this year vs SD and did enough versus Chi. Back your qb, he’s not a downgrade
December 9th, 2011 at 3:29 pm
Dakota Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
203.HueKnows Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 3:21 pm
197 I know what the deal is. The question is if we don’t MAKE M..A..K..E.. the playoffs then is it worth it?
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If we don’t make the playoffs this year was the trade worth it? A 1st rounder and 2nd rounder for a legit starting QB for 5 years? Yeah, it is worth it.
If we don’t make the playoff this year it is on the defense, and the up and down o-line and because of injuries.
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If we don’t make the playoffs next year, then it probably won’t be worth it.
December 9th, 2011 at 3:29 pm
If we don’t make the playoff this year it is on the defense, and the up and down o-line and because of injuries.
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You can say that every year, probably next year too cause it will be the same team.
December 9th, 2011 at 3:29 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 3:28 pm
I forget, who on this blog thought that Boller was a good backup?
Who thought Boller would be fine if JC went down?
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The only one who thought Boller was a good backup was Al Davis.
December 9th, 2011 at 3:29 pm
219.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 3:27 pm
Gannon was great. You are a piece of sh*t.
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limited qbs arent great
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What was limited about him? Because he didn’t have the strong arm that Davis likes? Give me a break. Strong arms don’t win games. Gannon didn’t lose that Super Bowl, and you know it. That Super Bowl was lost because of Al Davis’ ego. He thought he could win without Gruden, he was wrong.
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MR we know your crush on Gruden is stronger than smelling salt…but gannon was limited because he couldnt beat dominant defenses and thats just a fact…and yes his arm was limited thats why he couldnt put any hurt to ravens,pats and bucs you dumbfk!
December 9th, 2011 at 3:30 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
Jc gets the ball ojn my team and it isnt even worth discussion.
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What team is that?
Seattle?
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fool,
someon asked who would i give the ball to in the 4th quaretr down by 4 with two minutes to play, Jc is head and shoulders better in the clutch so I posted the numbers.
I wont apologize because it upsets you and others that palmer isnt as good as people say he is
December 9th, 2011 at 3:30 pm
Mistic would you be of critical of JC if he entered into Palmer’s situation? Were you critical of JC in 2010 or did you give him a pass until he learned the offense?
December 9th, 2011 at 3:31 pm
I forget, who on this blog thought that Boller was a good backup?
Who thought Boller would be fine if JC went down?
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The only one who thought Boller was a good backup was Al Davis.
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No, Mistic was a big Boller supporter, when everyone else said he sucked!
December 9th, 2011 at 3:32 pm
If we don’t make the playoffs next year, then it probably won’t be worth it.
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Exactly.
The trade is two fold.
1. Save the season from Kyle Boller
2. Get the QB of the future
This is still being debated?
We all knew JC would be out more than 6 weeks. So at the very best, what would our record be with Boller? So we get JC in for the last game of the season to audition for an extension and we’re left in the same boat.
No thanks.
I’ll take that trade 10 times out of 10.
December 9th, 2011 at 3:32 pm
MR we know your crush on Gruden is stronger than smelling salt…but gannon was limited because he couldnt beat dominant defenses and thats just a fact…and yes his arm was limited thats why he couldnt put any hurt to ravens,pats and bucs you dumbfk!
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Joe Montana, Phil Simms, Jeff Hostetler, just to name a few, all QBs who won Super Bowls with “limited” arms. How stupid are you, anyways? Gannon was knocked out of the Ravens game by a cheap shot, lost to the Pats because of a terrible officiating call, and lost to the Bucs because Gruden knew all of our plays. F*ck off moron.
December 9th, 2011 at 3:33 pm
fool,
someon asked who would i give the ball to in the 4th quaretr down by 4 with two minutes to play, Jc is head and shoulders better in the clutch so I posted the numbers.
I wont apologize because it upsets you and others that palmer isnt as good as people say he is
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You said ‘my team.’
Well, my team is the Oakland Raiders and Palmer is the starting QB.
Just curious.
December 9th, 2011 at 3:33 pm
fingers Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
I’m more concerned about the defense than offense for the Greenbay game..
They keep it close… We can win…
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True, but we can’t stop Rodgers, only try and contain him. We’re gonna have to put up some points to keep up
December 9th, 2011 at 3:33 pm
inonewordraider Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 3:29 pm
I learned to really like JC and he came thru in critical moments but he was on the losing end for us in big games as well. Jacksonville and Indy were huge games for our playoff hopes last year both L’s of course he did come thru clutch vs KC. NE this year was a game to see if we were ready to beat the big boys and he threw two critical picks. CP didn’t will us to win in Miami but he lit it up in the biggest game we’ve won this year vs SD and did enough versus Chi. Back your qb, he’s not a downgrade
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mr rourke back on fantasy island i see.
the biggest game we had was the home opener vs the jest, and the texan gamne after Davis. palmer stunk it up in the cheif , bronco, chicago and miami games.
regardles of what you say about what game is bigger the overall performance has not been on par with what we got from JC. That is simple truth.
Hopefully palmer can elevate his game and become a suitable replacement
December 9th, 2011 at 3:34 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 3:31 pm
I forget, who on this blog thought that Boller was a good backup?
Who thought Boller would be fine if JC went down?
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The only one who thought Boller was a good backup was Al Davis.
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No, Mistic was a big Boller supporter, when everyone else said he sucked!
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LOL, well Mistic knows nothing about QBs. I’m surprised he liked Boller, though, given the color of his skin.
December 9th, 2011 at 3:34 pm
Gannon was a good QB, not great. People remind gannon of his incredible 5 pick (3 pick 6) performance more than his MVP.
December 9th, 2011 at 3:35 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 2:33 pm
68.Sullivan44 Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 2:18 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 12:45 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
Wait, Oakland has an NBA team called the warriors?
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Yeah Buddy. In case you didn’t know, they play at the exact same location where the Oakland A’s and the Oakland Raiders play.
Oakland is the ONLY city in California that hosts a professional Football, Baseball, and Basketball team.
Nuff said. The rest of y’all are playin catch up.
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Actually, muppet brain, they don’t. Warriors play in the Arena, not the coliseum.
Hey, I was hoping you could explain to everyone how you are 100% positive that the league contacted the Vikings, and told them to throw the game. Where everyone on the Vikings laid down like dogs, just because the league wanted them to. Those were your words, muppet, not mine.
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Dummy its the coliseum complex….fk do you think the arena was called for many years? Oakland-Coliseum Arena…..dumbfk…and its the same address you dummy!
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LMAO. And since this post MR hasn’t shown up to even attempt a reply.
If you pour a little salt on a slug it will shrivel up and disappear.
December 9th, 2011 at 3:35 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 3:33 pm
fool,
someon asked who would i give the ball to in the 4th quaretr down by 4 with two minutes to play, Jc is head and shoulders better in the clutch so I posted the numbers.
I wont apologize because it upsets you and others that palmer isnt as good as people say he is
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You said ‘my team.’
Well, my team is the Oakland Raiders and Palmer is the starting QB.
Just curious.
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like i said i was responding to a question asked directly to me. palmer is the qb, even if he has been a disappointment and not the “elite” qb that you and others so gleefully touted. he may still shock me, but he running out of time
December 9th, 2011 at 3:36 pm
inonewordraider Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 3:29 pm
I learned to really like JC and he came thru in critical moments but he was on the losing end for us in big games as well. Jacksonville and Indy were huge games for our playoff hopes last year both L’s of course he did come thru clutch vs KC. NE this year was a game to see if we were ready to beat the big boys and he threw two critical picks. CP didn’t will us to win in Miami but he lit it up in the biggest game we’ve won this year vs SD and did enough versus Chi. Back your qb, he’s not a downgrade
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Good post.
JC got us to a point and got hurt.
We needed Palamer. That simple.
I would hope everyone is rooting for Palmer and 52 other guys on the team come Sunday.
I would hope everyone wants Palmer to play like an All Pro.
December 9th, 2011 at 3:36 pm
Great QBs: Manning, Brady, Montana, Aikman, Elway, Staubach, Bradshaw, Marino.
December 9th, 2011 at 3:37 pm
But wait Brien,
Don’t you know that MR knows far more about Oakland than we who are actually FROM OAKLAND!
Furthermore, he knows far more about Blackness than we who are actually BLACK!
We should know this by now!lol
December 9th, 2011 at 3:37 pm
239.baumraiders Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 3:34 pm
Gannon was a good QB, not great. People remind gannon of his incredible 5 pick (3 pick 6) performance more than his MVP.
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exactly
December 9th, 2011 at 3:38 pm
234.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 3:32 pm
MR we know your crush on Gruden is stronger than smelling salt…but gannon was limited because he couldnt beat dominant defenses and thats just a fact…and yes his arm was limited thats why he couldnt put any hurt to ravens,pats and bucs you dumbfk!
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Joe Montana, Phil Simms, Jeff Hostetler, just to name a few, all QBs who won Super Bowls with “limited” arms. How stupid are you, anyways? Gannon was knocked out of the Ravens game by a cheap shot, lost to the Pats because of a terrible officiating call, and lost to the Bucs because Gruden knew all of our plays. F*ck off moron.
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stop naming guys who did what gannon couldnt….NOT CHOKE ON SUPER SUNDAY
those guys have beat dominant defenses…Gannon just struggled mightily against those type od D’s….very limited as I said….montana simms and hoss had way better arms than gannon’s pop gun
December 9th, 2011 at 3:39 pm
The funniest post ever!!!
Mystic claims that the Bengals were predicted before the season started to go deep into the playoffs.
OMG I am on the floor right now LMAO
“the bengals retuned almoist an entire team from last year, when they were projected to go deep into the playoffs. ”
So Pittsburgh and Baltimore were supposed to just lie down for the almighty Bengals!
What planet are you living on…they were picked to be dead last with the Browns.
Now I know your on old man medication!
December 9th, 2011 at 3:39 pm
There are less great QBs in my mind than fingers on your 2 hands, and i would take more than 20 or more QBs before Gannon.
December 9th, 2011 at 3:41 pm
244.ArmChair GM Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 3:37 pm
But wait Brien,
Don’t you know that MR knows far more about Oakland than we who are actually FROM OAKLAND!
Furthermore, he knows far more about Blackness than we who are actually BLACK!
We should know this by now!lol
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Haha and again i ace him and Alberta Bichelow Lame shows up…typical
December 9th, 2011 at 3:41 pm
Never liked Boller. Poor reads, mental break downs bad instincts throws picks
December 9th, 2011 at 3:42 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 3:30 pm
Mistic would you be of critical of JC if he entered into Palmer’s situation? Were you critical of JC in 2010 or did you give him a pass until he learned the offense?
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i knew Jc would be a very good qb here, so i said give him time.
I have always considered palmer to be more sizzle than steak, but I also said give him time. Eve after his terrible debut and a coupld of his subsequent stinkers.
Now though after 7 games he cant use the time excuse. After cammpbell got his 5th start he started showing why davis traded for him. palmer has badly regressed since the charger game. It is still too early to write him off, he has talent. His trouble however has always been lack of mobility turn overs, and questionable heart. i dont see the grit or fight when he is losing. i dont trust him to bring us back from behind, he is more prone to telling his boss he doent want to play and quitting.
so far he hasnt done anything to dispell or shake the orange and black baggage he carried in with him
December 9th, 2011 at 3:42 pm
Other than Brees, Manning, Brady and Rodgers, Carson Palmer is the best QB in the league and we have him.
If you give him the same amount of patience you gave Jason Campbell you will be amazed next year will be off the hook when he has all of his WR’s healthy and has had an off season and training camp with his team.
December 9th, 2011 at 3:43 pm
Misty Eyes has been exposed… his entire complaint in here every single time is to question palmers ability as our quarter back …over his boyfriend jason campbell…. Misty… are you going to root for seattle next year when camobell sign there?? Stop it already.. your not foling anyone..
December 9th, 2011 at 3:43 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 3:39 pm
The funniest post ever!!!
Mystic claims that the Bengals were predicted before the season started to go deep into the playoffs.
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i was talking about last year fool, when they had palmer and t.o and a supposedly solid defense
December 9th, 2011 at 3:43 pm
stop naming guys who did what gannon couldnt….NOT CHOKE ON SUPER SUNDAY
those guys have beat dominant defenses…Gannon just struggled mightily against those type od D’s….very limited as I said….montana simms and hoss had way better arms than gannon’s pop gun
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Brien, you are so far up Al Davis’ ass (or what is left of it) that you can’t see the truth.
December 9th, 2011 at 3:43 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 3:37 pm
Furthermore, he knows far more about Blackness than we who are actually BLACK!
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I’ve never heard ANY black person call MLKjr a communist, like Brien did. Only white supremacists do that.
From Oakland? Heeaal No!
December 9th, 2011 at 3:43 pm
248.baumraiders Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 3:39 pm
There are less great QBs in my mind than fingers on your 2 hands, and i would take more than 20 or more QBs before Gannon.
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I hate WCO qbs
December 9th, 2011 at 3:44 pm
like i said i was responding to a question asked directly to me. palmer is the qb, even if he has been a disappointment and not the “elite” qb that you and others so gleefully touted. he may still shock me, but he running out of time
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3-2 and averaging about 300 a game is disappointing?
Well, the Miami game was disappointing. You’d figure ‘rust’ is no excuse, like I would say for Denver.
And running out of time? We got 4 weeks to prove we’re a playoff team and besides, he’ll be here a few years… we’ll be alright.
December 9th, 2011 at 3:45 pm
256.KoolKell Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 3:43 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 3:37 pm
Furthermore, he knows far more about Blackness than we who are actually BLACK!
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I’ve never heard ANY black person call MLKjr a communist, like Brien did. Only white supremacists do that.
From Oakland? Heeaal No!
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Why do you keep talking and using my name?…notice I dont wuith you…obsessed a bith much?
And what do you know about black people? You aint even around any living in alameda!
December 9th, 2011 at 3:45 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 3:42 pm
Other than Brees, Manning, Brady and Rodgers, Carson Palmer is the best QB in the league and we have him.
If you give him the same amount of patience you gave Jason Campbell you will be amazed next year will be off the hook when he has all of his WR’s healthy and has had an off season and training camp with his team.
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ON WHAT PLANET??? SO FAR HE IS ISNT EVEN IN THE TOP 20?!?!?! he is looking up at TIM TEBOW FOR FUGG SAKE1
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA PURE DELUSION
December 9th, 2011 at 3:45 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 3:43 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 3:37 pm
Furthermore, he knows far more about Blackness than we who are actually BLACK!
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I’ve never heard ANY black person call MLKjr a communist, like Brien did. Only white supremacists do that.
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I think Brien may be some wigger from Alameda.
December 9th, 2011 at 3:46 pm
This blog has a high rate if dilusion going on…
1st: gannon played int eh SuperBowl against the coach that WROTE the freakin’ playbook he was using, the SB debacle rests clearly on Al’s shoulders for TRADING Gruden in Feb before the season and NOT changing a damn thing…
As far as Palmer goes, he’s had a 2nd rate run game and a revolving dooor at receiver which isn’t exactly a fair deal either…
December 9th, 2011 at 3:46 pm
See Armchair…Kell is a good paid house ngga….when blk men choose to make their own decisions it makes his puppet masters upset and fearful in the dem party…ya know we cant think or do on our own…we all have to be on same page on every topic and cant go our own route
December 9th, 2011 at 3:46 pm
261.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 3:45 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 3:43 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 3:37 pm
Furthermore, he knows far more about Blackness than we who are actually BLACK!
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I’ve never heard ANY black person call MLKjr a communist, like Brien did. Only white supremacists do that.
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I think Brien may be some wigger from Alameda.
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thats why you were scared nov 5th to meet me after all that schit talking that you would?
December 9th, 2011 at 3:47 pm
The Bengals finished 4-12 last year Mystic1 2 games better than the Panthers why do you lie so much?
There is no way they were expected to go deep into the playoffs in their division coming off a 4-12 season with a rookie QB.
December 9th, 2011 at 3:48 pm
VanHeathen coming in with some logic.
December 9th, 2011 at 3:48 pm
VanHeathen Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 3:46 pm
This blog has a high rate if dilusion going on…
1st: gannon played int eh SuperBowl against the coach that WROTE the freakin’ playbook he was using, the SB debacle rests clearly on Al’s shoulders for TRADING Gruden in Feb before the season and NOT changing a damn thing…
As far as Palmer goes, he’s had a 2nd rate run game and a revolving dooor at receiver which isn’t exactly a fair deal either…
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amen
December 9th, 2011 at 3:48 pm
262.VanHeathen Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 3:46 pm
This blog has a high rate if dilusion going on…
1st: gannon played int eh SuperBowl against the coach that WROTE the freakin’ playbook he was using, the SB debacle rests clearly on Al’s shoulders for TRADING Gruden in Feb before the season and NOT changing a damn thing…
As far as Palmer goes, he’s had a 2nd rate run game and a revolving dooor at receiver which isn’t exactly a fair deal either…
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excuses…sounds very demoratic-ish
December 9th, 2011 at 3:48 pm
There’s always been a theory that East Coast football is so much more disciplined because they want to get the play right and get out of the elements – I remember Corwin Brown talking about that when they asked about Belichick and what was the difference playing for him.
They always had team meetings and you were “sick of going to meetings” over and over again, so the routine was just habitual. When you hear about “inconsistency” , the players know what has to be done, but just aren’t in the habit of doing it….this is a team that needs the big play to mask habitual error…they don’t make adjustments and have players unfamiliar with each other or not trusting each other to make plays…
December 9th, 2011 at 3:49 pm
There are only 4 people on here and 12 user names
December 9th, 2011 at 3:49 pm
“ON WHAT PLANET??? SO FAR HE IS ISNT EVEN IN THE TOP 20?!?!?! he is looking up at TIM TEBOW FOR FUGG SAKE1
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA PURE DELUSION”
You do realize that you said that about the QB of this franchise for the next 3 years?
What kind of a Charger fan are you coming in here hating on my QB and lying about the Bengals picked to go deep into the playoffs at 4-12 you need to tell your old man doctor to fix your old man medicine
December 9th, 2011 at 3:49 pm
Brien, why would anyone want to meet your pathetic ass at any time. I sure didn’t want to spoil my first Raider game in Oakland by meeting up with you.
December 9th, 2011 at 3:50 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 3:46 pm
261.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 3:45 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 3:43 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 3:37 pm
Furthermore, he knows far more about Blackness than we who are actually BLACK!
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I’ve never heard ANY black person call MLKjr a communist, like Brien did. Only white supremacists do that.
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I think Brien may be some wigger from Alameda.
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thats why you were scared nov 5th to meet me after all that schit talking that you would?
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“Internet wolf tickets”….always entertaining.
December 9th, 2011 at 3:50 pm
GoodOle00 Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 3:49 pm
There are only 4 people on here and 12 user names
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Probably true. That is why the moderators condone trolling.
December 9th, 2011 at 3:51 pm
ON WHAT PLANET??? SO FAR HE IS ISNT EVEN IN THE TOP 20?!?!?! he is looking up at TIM TEBOW FOR FUGG SAKE1
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA PURE DELUSION”
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Uh, yeah… you don’t hate our starting QB much.
Do you root for the Raiders when Palmer plays, Mistic?
Honest question… no BS whatsoever.
December 9th, 2011 at 3:52 pm
273.RaiderSam Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 3:50 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 3:46 pm
261.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 3:45 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 3:43 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 3:37 pm
Furthermore, he knows far more about Blackness than we who are actually BLACK!
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I’ve never heard ANY black person call MLKjr a communist, like Brien did. Only white supremacists do that.
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I think Brien may be some wigger from Alameda.
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thats why you were scared nov 5th to meet me after all that schit talking that you would?
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“Internet wolf tickets”….always entertaining.
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arent they? you got multiple posters who can confirm my identity
December 9th, 2011 at 3:53 pm
272.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 3:49 pm
Brien, why would anyone want to meet your pathetic ass at any time. I sure didn’t want to spoil my first Raider game in Oakland by meeting up with you.
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the broncos won..im sure u were excited MR
December 9th, 2011 at 3:53 pm
arent they? you got multiple posters who can confirm my identity
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How do we know those “multiple posters” aren’t you Brien?
December 9th, 2011 at 3:54 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 3:47 pm
The Bengals finished 4-12 last year Mystic1 2 games better than the Panthers why do you lie so much?
There is no way they were expected to go deep into the playoffs in their division coming off a 4-12 season with a rookie QB.
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You are an idiot. I said LAST YEAR THEY WERE EXPECTED TO GO DEE INTO THE PLAYOFFS, BECAUSE THEY HAD A SUPPOSEDLY SOLID DEFENSE PALMER AND T.O. THIS YEAR THEY RETURNED THE SAME DEFENSE AND ARE BY FAR A MORE TALENTED TEAM THAN THE PANTHERS.
DALTON IS DECENT BUT HE COULDNT CARRY CAMS JOCK ON AN AIRCRAFT CARRIER
December 9th, 2011 at 3:55 pm
VanHeathen Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 3:46 pm
This blog has a high rate if dilusion going on…
1st: gannon played int eh SuperBowl against the coach that WROTE the freakin’ playbook he was using, the SB debacle rests clearly on Al’s shoulders for TRADING Gruden in Feb before the season and NOT changing a damn thing…
As far as Palmer goes, he’s had a 2nd rate run game and a revolving dooor at receiver which isn’t exactly a fair deal either…
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Well if he was such a great QB, and being the leader that he was, and a very intelligent QB, he would have gone to Callahan and changed some plays, make some adjustments knowing they were facing Gruden and that he knew all of their formations, plays , he had 2 weeks to get some plays that weren’t on Grudens playbook, and Callahan is an idiot. I Know it was Grudens play book, but i mean, you can make your mark as a coach, with your own plays. He didn’t make any adjustments. But i agree that if coach davis didn’t trade him, we would’ve had our 4 trophy that year
December 9th, 2011 at 3:55 pm
DALTON IS DECENT BUT HE COULDNT CARRY CAMS JOCK ON AN AIRCRAFT CARRIER
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??
They’re different players entirely but probably 1 and 1A in terms of rookie of the year.
December 9th, 2011 at 3:56 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 3:51 pm
ON WHAT PLANET??? SO FAR HE IS ISNT EVEN IN THE TOP 20?!?!?! he is looking up at TIM TEBOW FOR FUGG SAKE1
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA PURE DELUSION”
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Uh, yeah… you don’t hate our starting QB much.
Do you root for the Raiders when Palmer plays, Mistic?
Honest question… no BS whatsoever.
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Silly question i always root for my team, but i will always be honest about the way players perform. that includes qbs’.
December 9th, 2011 at 3:56 pm
278.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 3:53 pm
arent they? you got multiple posters who can confirm my identity
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How do we know those “multiple posters” aren’t you Brien?
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my style is too dope to ever troll
December 9th, 2011 at 3:56 pm
Palmer is 3-2 in the only stat that matters I think JC was 11-7.
So there are 5 games left lets see where he is after the season.
Shut up about it already there are 5 games left.
When we win in Green Bay on Sunday because Palmer is a great cold weather QB he will own you and I would bet a months salary we wont hear s peep from you all week.
December 9th, 2011 at 3:57 pm
Seems exclusive to QBs, Mistic.
No chance teammates could make a QB look better or, conversely, bring the play of the QB down?
December 9th, 2011 at 3:57 pm
dalton is clearly the second best rookie qb, but the gap between cam and dalton is a grand canyon
December 9th, 2011 at 3:57 pm
LA To TheBay Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 3:51 pm
ON WHAT PLANET??? SO FAR HE IS ISNT EVEN IN THE TOP 20?!?!?! he is looking up at TIM TEBOW FOR FUGG SAKE1
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA PURE DELUSION”
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Uh, yeah… you don’t hate our starting QB much.
Do you root for the Raiders when Palmer plays, Mistic?
Honest question… no BS whatsoever.
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I could understand you wanting to give the ball to JC in those last 2 min trailing by 4 instead of Palmer, but you lose all credibility and look delusional when you say ish like that, PFFF, Tebow better than Palmer? HA, Tebow is not even better than JC
December 9th, 2011 at 3:58 pm
a couple of things: 1) Palmer is the best qb we’ve had since gannon. 2) the D suxs. maybe not all Bresh’s fault even though he suxs. 3) the young guys in the Oline will make us a contender, got a couple of vets we could upgrade. 4)whenever this D reaches mediocraty this team will reach the playoffs.
December 9th, 2011 at 3:59 pm
Silly question i always root for my team, but i will always be honest about the way players perform. that includes abs’.
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Mistic
Yeah but when JC had a bad game you were all over the other players, not the QB, but for example the miami game and Denver game, you are all over Palmer. You are not objective.
December 9th, 2011 at 4:00 pm
Macho Man continues the logic.
Good enough for me.
I’m out.
Be good.
December 9th, 2011 at 4:00 pm
No doubt Callahan SHOULD have made some adjustments, but i don’t think that was in his skill set…
Never said Gannon was great, just saying he wasn’t the HACK that the SB performance alone makes him look like…if you want to see some HACKS, just look at the list of QB’s we had between Gannon and JC, and he looks a whole lot better…
really don’t care about anything but this Sunday though…sick of all these freakin injuries.
December 9th, 2011 at 4:00 pm
Until the D plays up to KC’s level we wont reach the playoffs. Denver is playing lights out D, and has a QB that can put up 17 points, enough to win. Good bye playoffs. Thank you CHUKY B.
December 9th, 2011 at 4:02 pm
I know Gannon was good, but it was also his fault. He didn’t just have a bad game. He had the worst EVER!
December 9th, 2011 at 4:03 pm
What team would give up a 1st and 2nd rd pick for a QB that throw 3 picks and 1 pick six a game ?
December 9th, 2011 at 4:03 pm
Palmer is elite … At throwing multiple INts’ and TD’s for the other team !
December 9th, 2011 at 4:04 pm
292.
So Palmer has 15 INT and 5 returned for TD? Wow
December 9th, 2011 at 4:06 pm
palmer stunk it up in the cheif , bronco, chicago and miami games.
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ok you’re going to say he sucked in the Chief game not knowing 15% of the playbook? seriously I used to think you had credibility, all out the window. Oh by the way CP won versus the Bears so by your criteria JC sucked versus Houston this year, if you want I can show you the stats?
December 9th, 2011 at 4:06 pm
Gannon’s Superbowl… oy. Gannon was a beast. Gannon & Gardner, wow, I hope we get a QB RB tandem like that again…The Superbowl. an aberration? yes. yet, it was the most important game of his life, and Gannon played like scit. plain and simple….but please, do not compare Gannon MVP with any other raider QB of the last 25 years.
December 9th, 2011 at 4:06 pm
Palmers the best Raider QB since Gannon.
Pair him with DMC, Bush, Taiwan, Moore and Ford? Yeah baby…
December 9th, 2011 at 4:10 pm
CODE BLACK
December 9th, 2011 at 4:11 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 2:33 pm
68.Sullivan44 Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 2:18 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 12:45 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
Wait, Oakland has an NBA team called the warriors?
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Yeah Buddy. In case you didn’t know, they play at the exact same location where the Oakland A’s and the Oakland Raiders play.
Oakland is the ONLY city in California that hosts a professional Football, Baseball, and Basketball team.
Nuff said. The rest of y’all are playin catch up.
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Actually, muppet brain, they don’t. Warriors play in the Arena, not the coliseum.
Hey, I was hoping you could explain to everyone how you are 100% positive that the league contacted the Vikings, and told them to throw the game. Where everyone on the Vikings laid down like dogs, just because the league wanted them to. Those were your words, muppet, not mine.
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Dummy its the coliseum complex….fk do you think the arena was called for many years? Oakland-Coliseum Arena…..dumbfk…and its the same address you dummy.———-
Of course you think it’s the same exact place. Open stadium, closed arena. It’s not the same, you ghetto wannabee idiot. See, you even proved it. Coliseum-Arena. Not Coliseum. Coliseum-Arena. You ever get tired of me exposing you as a BabyG Idiot Wannabee?
December 9th, 2011 at 4:13 pm
baumraiders Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 3:57 pm
LA To TheBay Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 3:51 pm
ON WHAT PLANET??? SO FAR HE IS ISNT EVEN IN THE TOP 20?!?!?! he is looking up at TIM TEBOW FOR FUGG SAKE1
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA PURE DELUSION”
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Uh, yeah… you don’t hate our starting QB much.
Do you root for the Raiders when Palmer plays, Mistic?
Honest question… no BS whatsoever.
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I could understand you wanting to give the ball to JC in those last 2 min trailing by 4 instead of Palmer, but you lose all credibility and look delusional when you say ish like that, PFFF, Tebow better than Palmer? HA, Tebow is not even better than JC
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i ddint say tebow was a better player too early to go that far, but he is clearly having a better year to this point. palmer has 9 picks in 7 starts (continuation of a very disturbing trend). Tebow has 1 pick in 7 starts and is 6-1
December 9th, 2011 at 4:13 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 3:56 pm
278.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 3:53 pm
arent they? you got multiple posters who can confirm my identity
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How do we know those “multiple posters” aren’t you Brien?
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my style is too dope to ever troll
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Lyingazzdog. You pick when you want to sound street, so no one buys that “can’t be me’. It is you.
December 9th, 2011 at 4:13 pm
Sandusky44 is back trying to prove to B@uce he has street cred
December 9th, 2011 at 4:14 pm
inonewordraider Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 4:06 pm
palmer stunk it up in the cheif , bronco, chicago and miami games.
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ok you’re going to say he sucked in the Chief game not knowing 15% of the playbook? seriously I used to think you had credibility, all out the window. Oh by the way CP won versus the Bears so by your criteria JC sucked versus Houston this year, if you want I can show you the stats?
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was it him in the game or a stunt double? he played and the stats count, im sure if he had played well you wouldnt exclude the stats from that game. he played and he played miserably
December 9th, 2011 at 4:14 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 4:10 pm
CODE BLACK
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Good boy. Stick to what you know. What doesn’t confuse you. What doesn’t make you step up and explain. Good boy.
December 9th, 2011 at 4:15 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 4:13 pm
Sandusky44 is back trying to prove to B@uce he has street cred
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Shut up, Oakglenn. I left you in the dust long ago.
December 9th, 2011 at 4:16 pm
Mystic1 the only stat that matters is 3-2 he has 4 games left.
December 9th, 2011 at 4:17 pm
Sullivan ,
Gonna suck on your cousins sweet t!ts during your family x-mas party ? You gonna unwrap your other cousins PACKAGE ?
December 9th, 2011 at 4:18 pm
qb’s first 4 starts, and yes I’ll include Cp in Denver:
JC
yds-509
comp %-55.78
avg-5.86
Td-2
int-4
rating-60.21
CP
yds-1096
comp %-63.75
avg-9.93
Td-6
int-5
qb rating-96.15
Mistic what don’t you understand about this? I can walk you through it if you’d like…
December 9th, 2011 at 4:18 pm
baumraiders Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 3:59 pm
Silly question i always root for my team, but i will always be honest about the way players perform. that includes abs’.
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Mistic
Yeah but when JC had a bad game you were all over the other players, not the QB, but for example the miami game and Denver game, you are all over Palmer. You are not objective.
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not true when jc didnt play well i said as much. Jc though had a lot more good showings than poor showings and i was always sure he would play well. he did.
Palmer in my eyes is suspect and has been for the last few years. I have not been confident that he will improve, the numbers show that he has been getting worse over the last 2 seasons.
you can go by hype, ill make my judgments based on what actually happens on the field. so far palmer has been lousy outside of the charger game, he still coughed it up twice in that game. lets hope he can play well sunday and make it two decent games
December 9th, 2011 at 4:22 pm
Wow alot of cat n mouse fights going on today
December 9th, 2011 at 4:23 pm
SO WHAT, you said he isn’t in the top 20 of QB, you didn’t say this year. And even this year, he is better than TEBOW. Look at the big picture, look at all the players, not just the QB. So I guess you would choose Tebow over Carson also, and maybe even Curtis Painter.
December 9th, 2011 at 4:23 pm
inonewordraider Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 4:18 pm
qb’s first 4 starts, and yes I’ll include Cp in Denver:
JC
yds-509
comp %-55.78
avg-5.86
Td-2
int-4
rating-60.21
CP
yds-1096
comp %-63.75
avg-9.93
Td-6
int-5
qb rating-96.15
Mistic what don’t you understand about this? I can walk you through it if you’d like…
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I understand that it is useless drivel
why are you only comparing 4 starts, they have both played more than that.
that is weak
December 9th, 2011 at 4:24 pm
So tebow is better than CAMPBELL??
TEBOW 6-1
CAMPBELL 4-2
December 9th, 2011 at 4:24 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 3:35 pm
Dummy its the coliseum complex….fk do you think the arena was called for many years? Oakland-Coliseum Arena…..dumbfk…and its the same address you dummy!
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LMAO. And since this post MR hasn’t shown up to even attempt a reply.
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Replied to it, idiot. Laughed at it, idiot. And continuing to laugh at you waiting for others to think for you, idiot.
I MISSED your reply to you claiming 100% the league fixed the Bronc/Vik game. Dumbest thing I ever read. And you avoiding it is one of the funniest things I’m happy to say I have orchestrated. Admit it, idiot. You can’t say anything. This is where you rush to post something that has nothing to do with your idiot comment.
If you pour a little salt on a slug it will shrivel up and disappear.
December 9th, 2011 at 4:25 pm
I meant you would choose Painter over Palmer
December 9th, 2011 at 4:25 pm
So tebow is better than CAMPBELL??
TEBOW 6-1
CAMPBELL 4-2
December 9th, 2011 at 4:25 pm
baumraiders Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 4:23 pm
SO WHAT, you said he isn’t in the top 20 of QB, you didn’t say this year. And even this year, he is better than TEBOW. Look at the big picture, look at all the players, not just the QB. So I guess you would choose Tebow over Carson also, and maybe even Curtis Painter.
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again reputation means squat, its what have you done lately. this year, palmer is looking up at tebow dont believe me check the stats
next
December 9th, 2011 at 4:25 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 4:22 pm
Wow alot of cat n mouse fights going on today
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You can relate, right? It’s like inbetween classes for you, where kids snipe at each other before the late bell rings.
December 9th, 2011 at 4:26 pm
I understand that it is useless drivel
why are you only comparing 4 starts, they have both played more than that.
that is weak
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cps only started 5 games for the raiders if i do cps first 5 starts versus jcs cps stats are still much better would you like me to show you?
December 9th, 2011 at 4:26 pm
It’s one thing to bash a guy n be reasonable but to do it the whole day n everyday , that like taking it too far ? if u didnt know Palmer n u didn’t know his W-L record … You would think Palmer is 0-12 for the year , after reading Mistics posts .
December 9th, 2011 at 4:26 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 4:25 pm
baumraiders Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 4:23 pm
SO WHAT, you said he isn’t in the top 20 of QB, you didn’t say this year. And even this year, he is better than TEBOW. Look at the big picture, look at all the players, not just the QB. So I guess you would choose Tebow over Carson also, and maybe even Curtis Painter.
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again reputation means squat, its what have you done lately. this year, palmer is looking up at tebow dont believe me check the stats
next
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TEBOW 6-1
CAMPBELL 4-2
??
December 9th, 2011 at 4:27 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 4:25 pm
baumraiders Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 4:23 pm
SO WHAT, you said he isn’t in the top 20 of QB, you didn’t say this year. And even this year, he is better than TEBOW. Look at the big picture, look at all the players, not just the QB. So I guess you would choose Tebow over Carson also, and maybe even Curtis Painter.
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again reputation means squat, its what have you done lately. this year, palmer is looking up at tebow dont believe me check the stats
next
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TEBOW 6-1
CAMPBELL 4-2
??
December 9th, 2011 at 4:27 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 3:42 pm
Other than Brees, Manning, Brady and Rodgers, Carson Palmer is the best QB in the league and we have him.
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You are getting dumber as the day goes on, you idiot. Alex Smith is way above Carson. Read up, dummy.
December 9th, 2011 at 4:28 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 4:27 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 3:42 pm
Other than Brees, Manning, Brady and Rodgers, Carson Palmer is the best QB in the league and we have him.
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You are getting dumber as the day goes on, you idiot. Alex Smith is way above Carson. Read up, dummy.
PFFFFTTTTT
December 9th, 2011 at 4:28 pm
baumraiders Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 4:25 pm
So tebow is better than CAMPBELL??
TEBOW 6-1
CAMPBELL 4-2
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not hardly, jc is injured so he isnt able to continue posting numbers or wins. When he was healthy he was clearly the best qb in our division. tebow and palmer are still playing so it will be far to continue comparing them
pretty simple really
December 9th, 2011 at 4:28 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 4:26 pm
It’s one thing to bash a guy n be reasonable but to do it the whole day n everyday , that like taking it too far ? if u didnt know Palmer n u didn’t know his W-L record … You would think Palmer is 0-12 for the year , after reading Mistics posts .
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Carson is white.
JC is black.
Mistic is black.
Mistic has admitted he makes comments depending on race.
Now you know.
December 9th, 2011 at 4:29 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 4:25 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 4:22 pm
Wow alot of cat n mouse fights going on today
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You can relate, right? It’s like inbetween classes for you, where kids snipe at each other before the late bell rings.
—- still rem those days at age 44 .. No wonder you haven’t grown up yet , otherwise you would b doing something productive in your life, you pathetic loser Sandusky44
December 9th, 2011 at 4:30 pm
hahaha ok mistic ok…. What have you done for me lately
December 9th, 2011 at 4:32 pm
baumraiders Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 4:28 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 4:27 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 3:42 pm
Other than Brees, Manning, Brady and Rodgers, Carson Palmer is the best QB in the league and we have him.
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You are getting dumber as the day goes on, you idiot. Alex Smith is way above Carson. Read up, dummy.
PFFFFTTTTT
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qb rating
Smith 95
Carson 77
TD/interceptions
Smith 15/5
Carson 8/9
Smith is light years ahead of Carson
December 9th, 2011 at 4:32 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 4:26 pm
It’s one thing to bash a guy n be reasonable but to do it the whole day n everyday , that like taking it too far ? if u didnt know Palmer n u didn’t know his W-L record … You would think Palmer is 0-12 for the year , after reading Mistics posts .
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you feel that way because like others here you are hyper sensative to anyone pointiong out concerns about your hero palmer.
I havent bashed any one only stated what any objective observer would. Palmer hasnt had a good season so far. he must improve or he will sink our season in classic bungles fashion
December 9th, 2011 at 4:33 pm
McFadden20,
Do they let people with your size fatazz suit up for PE these days? Or you out on a ‘medical’? To fat to flop?
December 9th, 2011 at 4:33 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 4:28 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 4:26 pm
It’s one thing to bash a guy n be reasonable but to do it the whole day n everyday , that like taking it too far ? if u didnt know Palmer n u didn’t know his W-L record … You would think Palmer is 0-12 for the year , after reading Mistics posts .
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Carson is white.
JC is black.
Mistic is black.
Mistic has admitted he makes comments depending on race.
Now you know.
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sullied underwaer,
i have never said anything about making comments based on race. Dont lie on me, that is trash
December 9th, 2011 at 4:38 pm
Sullivan44, is TEBOW better than ALEX SMITH?
TEBOW 6-1 13 total TD, 5 TURNOVERS a 2.6-1 ratio
Smith 9-2 16 total TD, 8 TURNOVERS a 2-1 ratio
December 9th, 2011 at 4:39 pm
TEBOW win % 85%
SMITH win % 81%
December 9th, 2011 at 4:40 pm
man, McF has been milking his injury cow for years now. It seems he infected others with his bug. Sad.
December 9th, 2011 at 4:41 pm
wow palmer is looking up at smith too, yikes
pull your head out carson or we are finished
December 9th, 2011 at 4:44 pm
Tebow is better than …. Palmer , Cassell, Rivers, Jackson ,Kolb,Ryan,Fitzpatrick,,Newton,Hanie,Mccoy, Stafford,Ponder,gabbert,Yates,Palko,Moore,Sanchez,Young,Grossman,Hasselbeck …
December 9th, 2011 at 4:44 pm
there are definitely some micro-brained folk on here in the afternoons. TBone? ASmith? worthless turds floating in a waste treatment plant are a subject of interest? shameful loss of time and energy.
December 9th, 2011 at 4:47 pm
If TBone is considered a true representative of Haysuss then this country and world need to be annihilated lickety split.
December 9th, 2011 at 4:47 pm
one thing that im grateful to tebow for is the fact that he is disproving the long held myth that option qbs cant play in the nfl.
what if the steelers had made this kind of commitment to kordell stewart and let him play according to his strengths? Brad smith, tommie frazier, micheal bishop, all could have been quakity qbs in this league. Funny though it takes a white qb to get this kind of shot.
December 9th, 2011 at 4:49 pm
You will have to deal with your nemesis Palmer for the next 4 or 5 years, maybe even a Super bowl while your boys Smith, Tebow and JC are watching from their couch.
December 9th, 2011 at 4:49 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 4:47 pm
one thing that im grateful to tebow for is the fact that he is disproving the long held myth that option qbs cant play in the nfl.
what if the steelers had made this kind of commitment to kordell stewart and let him play according to his strengths? Brad smith, tommie frazier, micheal bishop, all could have been quakity qbs in this league. Funny though it takes a white qb to get this kind of shot.
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Lol yeah barely scoring 15 points is pretty good huh
December 9th, 2011 at 4:50 pm
MCF20, 10, 7 ARE DEFENSIVE POINTS LOL
December 9th, 2011 at 4:51 pm
dont knock them they are in the driver seat as of right now
December 9th, 2011 at 4:51 pm
Go Griz!
December 9th, 2011 at 4:51 pm
Sorry if my english is not good enough, Spanish is my 1st language
December 9th, 2011 at 4:52 pm
palmer isnt my nemesis, im just honest about his performance or lack there of.
i hope hu didnt buy a lemon
December 9th, 2011 at 4:53 pm
Silly before u embarrass yourself even further just leave or shut your mouth … But if You like being embarrassed , insulted, humiliated etc etc then u can stay … I know what your going to do but let’s see if something by surprise tells ur dumb brain to do something diff this time n leave for good ..
December 9th, 2011 at 4:54 pm
Sandusky44 your a disgrace shut your pie hole we are all sick of your banter.
Your not a fan!
December 9th, 2011 at 4:54 pm
Sorry if my english is not good enough, Spanish is my 1st language
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Still can’t understand you with Palmers b@lls over your face …
December 9th, 2011 at 4:54 pm
Yeah sully left after I asked him about comparing tebow to Smith, don’t know why
December 9th, 2011 at 4:55 pm
350, uu Jesus, Im offended, shame on you LOL
December 9th, 2011 at 4:56 pm
Lets be real if Palmer was a black man Mystic1 would be the one most animatedly defending him right now.
December 9th, 2011 at 4:57 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 4:52 pm
palmer isnt my nemesis, im just honest about his performance or lack there of.
i hope hu didnt buy a lemon
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Hahahaa yeah sure … Would u like a cookie now?
December 9th, 2011 at 4:57 pm
JK Baum …
December 9th, 2011 at 4:58 pm
Code BLACK ####
December 9th, 2011 at 5:00 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 4:56 pm
Lets be real if Palmer was a black man Mystic1 would be the one most animatedly defending him right now.
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Right on spot
December 9th, 2011 at 5:00 pm
If we win on sunday I will be happy but there will be 3 games still on the sched
December 9th, 2011 at 5:01 pm
qb watch list the freshmen
1.) teddy bridgewater louisville
2.) braxton miller ohio state
3.) jacoby brisset florida
4.) logan thomas virginia tech
these guys could be really good in time, i think bridgewater is the best of the bunch
December 9th, 2011 at 5:01 pm
Palmer is going to wonders for us this year
December 9th, 2011 at 5:02 pm
Palmers only had 5 starts with us… Relax…. He’s still learning the playbook and he’s never played with a healthy Raider team yet… How in hell can you judge him at this point… Give it time …
December 9th, 2011 at 5:02 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 5:01 pm
qb watch list the freshmen
1.) teddy bridgewater louisville
2.) braxton miller ohio state
3.) jacoby brisset florida
4.) logan thomas virginia tech
these guys could be really good in time, i think bridgewater is the best of the bunch
/–11
Are you talking about Madden12 ?
December 9th, 2011 at 5:03 pm
Ok people, Mistic you too, have a good weekend, we will win against the Goudas.
December 9th, 2011 at 5:03 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 4:56 pm
Lets be real if Palmer was a black man Mystic1 would be the one most animatedly defending him right now.
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worthless post that cant be backed up or proven. If palmer played well i would defend him, so far he sucks
December 9th, 2011 at 5:04 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 5:02 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 5:01 pm
qb watch list the freshmen
1.) teddy bridgewater louisville
2.) braxton miller ohio state
3.) jacoby brisset florida
4.) logan thomas virginia tech
these guys could be really good in time, i think bridgewater is the best of the bunch
/–11
Are you talking about Madden12 ?
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im a grown man, i dont play video games, that is for children
December 9th, 2011 at 5:04 pm
Fingers Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 5:02 pm
Palmers only had 5 starts with us… Relax…. He’s still learning the playbook and he’s never played with a healthy Raider team yet… How in hell can you judge him at this point… Give it time …
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But according to mistic he should b lighting up scoreboard with no training camp n no Otas , I bet he only knows less than 85% playbook but he should play like Aaron Rodgers
December 9th, 2011 at 5:06 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 5:04 pm
Fingers Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 5:02 pm
Palmers only had 5 starts with us… Relax…. He’s still learning the playbook and he’s never played with a healthy Raider team yet… How in hell can you judge him at this point… Give it time …
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But according to mistic he should b lighting up scoreboard with no training camp n no Otas , I bet he only knows less than 85% playbook but he should play like Aaron Rodgers
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he has been here for 7-8 weeks now so time isnt the issue any longer he should be showing improvement by now. it looks like bungles cant change their stripes, and palmer is in a tailspin
December 9th, 2011 at 5:07 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 5:04 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 5:02 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 5:01 pm
qb watch list the freshmen
1.) teddy bridgewater louisville
2.) braxton miller ohio state
3.) jacoby brisset florida
4.) logan thomas virginia tech
these guys could be really good in time, i think bridgewater is the best of the bunch
/–11
Are you talking about Madden12 ?
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im a grown man, i dont play video games, that is for children
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Haha thats funny , judging by your commitment to bashing Palmer 24/7 , one would think your a kid n Palmer stole ur toys or something
December 9th, 2011 at 5:08 pm
you call it bashing palmer because you cant stand for any one to be honest about your golden boy hero and his failings
December 9th, 2011 at 5:10 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 5:06 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 5:04 pm
Fingers Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 5:02 pm
Palmers only had 5 starts with us… Relax…. He’s still learning the playbook and he’s never played with a healthy Raider team yet… How in hell can you judge him at this point… Give it time …
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But according to mistic he should b lighting up scoreboard with no training camp n no Otas , I bet he only knows less than 85% playbook but he should play like Aaron Rodgers
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he has been here for 7-8 weeks now so time isnt the issue any longer he should be showing improvement by now. it looks like bungles cant change their stripes, and palmer is in a tailspin
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I remember Jason Campbell given full Otas and Training camp last year to Learn playbook n get in rhythm with his Receivers but it took him till midseason to start feeling comfortable with everything , I’m glad Palmers progress is further along than that n he’s 3-2
December 9th, 2011 at 5:11 pm
I call judging Palmer after 5 starts nonsense…
December 9th, 2011 at 5:12 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 5:10 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 5:06 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 5:04 pm
Fingers Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 5:02 pm
Palmers only had 5 starts with us… Relax…. He’s still learning the playbook and he’s never played with a healthy Raider team yet… How in hell can you judge him at this point… Give it time …
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But according to mistic he should b lighting up scoreboard with no training camp n no Otas , I bet he only knows less than 85% playbook but he should play like Aaron Rodgers
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he has been here for 7-8 weeks now so time isnt the issue any longer he should be showing improvement by now. it looks like bungles cant change their stripes, and palmer is in a tailspin
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I remember Jason Campbell given full Otas and Training camp last year to Learn playbook n get in rhythm with his Receivers but it took him till midseason to start feeling comfortable with everything , I’m glad Palmers progress is further along than that n he’s 3-2
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if i remember correctly presason and training camp stats dont count, only sunday counts.
So far your hero is struggling.
palmer better improve this weekend to validate the faith of the nation, otherwise the trade is a bust.
im out
December 9th, 2011 at 5:22 pm
cps 1st 5 starts for raiders (only has 5 starts):
yds-1369
comp % 60.76
avg/ comp-9.27
td 8
int 6
rating 92.24
jcs 1st 5 starts
yds-713
comp % 56.62
avg/comp 6.73
td 4
int 4
rating 73.76
any questions?
December 9th, 2011 at 5:32 pm
by the way cp knowing 15% of the playbook versus chiefs had a qb rating of 17.3, Jc in game 4 of the regular season last year versus the 9ers had a rating of 10.7
December 9th, 2011 at 5:41 pm
What is up with McFadden, hopefully he fulfills a promising career. He just cant shake off injuries. He has the talent to become one of the best Raider backs.
December 9th, 2011 at 6:03 pm
mistic1,sorry man,youre a total jackarse,IMO.I,for one,like JC,but,Palmer is the better QB,PERIOD.You seem to forget,Campbell had DMac AND all starting wideouts in his starts,I believe.Whatever youre motivation for bashing Palmer,its tiresome,and yea,I wont read youre posts,better for the BP.oh,going into GB,banged up,and so are they,the RAIDERS with Palmer,have a better chance for victory.
December 9th, 2011 at 6:16 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 4:56 pm
Lets be real if Palmer was a black man Mystic1 would be the one most animatedly defending him right now.
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FACT!!!!
Had JC won the last 3 games, Mistic would put him in the HOF.
December 9th, 2011 at 6:21 pm
According to HueJax, the next four games are now in line for a run for a championship, right? Like the packers were last season, right?
HueJax brought Palmer in because he saw this moment coming, he brought in TJ to make Palmer feel comfortable. Well, this is game one coming up, Palmer is now in position to prove that he can put a team on his back and ride to the top.
He’s done with training camp. No more excuses, no more concerns about getting sacked, no concerns about throwing INTs, now he knows enough of the playbook, got to be ready to make plays. He’s getting paid as a top end QB, elite type of money, worth 2 first rounds, this is the time to show up and prove the worth.
It’s not up to the critics to push him to succeed, it’s all about Palmer and it’s all on HueJax playcalling. We’ve got to expect a Brees, Brady, Rivers, Rogers, Big Ben type of game from now on, that’s what he’s getting paid and treated like. No excuses. Quit the BS.
December 9th, 2011 at 6:41 pm
If the Raiders lose on Sunday, Hue will be asked if the ‘Burger Case’ or the case Raiders v. Raid A Nation was a distraction. His reply will be, ‘No, I take all the blame, it starts with me’. I sure as hell hope the burger case is not a distraction. We don’t need that. But no worry.
Raiders 45
Green Bay 42
December 9th, 2011 at 6:42 pm
How do ya’ll
December 9th, 2011 at 6:42 pm
Hey ya’ll
December 9th, 2011 at 6:43 pm
Howdy ya’ll
December 9th, 2011 at 6:45 pm
first time poster, just want to say hi ya’ll
December 9th, 2011 at 6:47 pm
I’m gonna bet the farm the Raiders beat the Pack. It’s a no brainer.
Oak 24
Puckers 10
December 9th, 2011 at 6:48 pm
Guber? What is up, my fellow abuser of farm animals?
December 9th, 2011 at 6:50 pm
Buck Snort Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 6:47 pm
I’m gonna bet the farm the Raiders beat the Pack. It’s a no brainer.
Oak 24
Puckers 10
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Bet the farm? Oh, that silly Farm city, or something like that, on FaceBook? Well then, bet away, foolish girl, bet away.
December 9th, 2011 at 6:54 pm
Mistic.
Question. Why is it almost every poster here believes you are a racist POS? I mean, someone comments, and you have posters standing in line agreeing you’re pro-black, and anti-white. Coincidence? I think not.
December 9th, 2011 at 6:56 pm
Zopi, good post! One thing you forgot was that it is now at 1PM PST! Meaning…the time difference better not be an excuse! And it will not! This team will find a way to persevere and win! If not, I guess all the draft talks and offseason talks will start Sunday evening!
Let’s Go Raiders!
December 9th, 2011 at 6:58 pm
Gilligan, too funny! The burger case was filed by the org so it is not a distraction, IMO!
December 9th, 2011 at 7:02 pm
My neighbor gave me a box of exlax for this nasty cough i got. She said if i take the whole box, it’ll fix my cough cuz i’d be afraid to cough. she’s right. so my advice is, have a clean pair of drawers nearby, cuz you gonna need ‘em.
December 9th, 2011 at 7:11 pm
This one is for my old school heads, you know who you are!
This one is dedicated to dead hookers everywhere and to a Raiders victory on Sunday!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-n-yxT97UPo&feature=g-all
Rap Is A Joke!
December 9th, 2011 at 7:22 pm
LOL, RaiderDogg!
December 9th, 2011 at 7:26 pm
good sh1t right?
December 9th, 2011 at 7:34 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 4:25 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 4:22 pm
Wow alot of cat n mouse fights going on today
——
You can relate, right? It’s like inbetween classes for you, where kids snipe at each other before the late bell rings.
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Hilarious banter…..no wonder there are fights at the Battle of the Bay…LOL
December 9th, 2011 at 7:37 pm
340.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 4:47 pm
one thing that im grateful to tebow for is the fact that he is disproving the long held myth that option qbs cant play in the nfl.
what if the steelers had made this kind of commitment to kordell stewart and let him play according to his strengths? Brad smith, tommie frazier, micheal bishop, all could have been quakity qbs in this league. Funny though it takes a white qb to get this kind of shot.
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Why do you infuse race in this? Teams and fans don’t care what color the players are as long as they win. Well, most do.
You must really hate the Packers, what with all those white boys on the team. Aj Hawk, Clay Mathews, the entire offensive line, the best player on the team in Aaron Rodgers and gasp….they even have a probowl level wide receiver in Jordy Nelson. Let’s not forget about their fullback too.
Yeah, those white boys can’t play ball at all.
December 9th, 2011 at 7:45 pm
Y’all need to stop trippin and watch that video! It will make your night!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-n-yxT97UPo&feature=g-all
Rap Is A Joke!
December 9th, 2011 at 7:50 pm
CODE BLACK in that fckn frozen tundra
December 9th, 2011 at 7:50 pm
we here in kentucky want the raiders to beat the packers. we get the game on the television down at the corner tav.
December 9th, 2011 at 7:59 pm
raiders raiders raiders
beat the packers please
no excuses, just win baby
December 9th, 2011 at 7:59 pm
I’m glad the Raiders haven’t given GB any bulletin board material this week.
Best chance is to hopefully catch’em overconfident…not ticked off.
December 9th, 2011 at 8:02 pm
Gerard Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 7:59 pm
I’m glad the Raiders haven’t given GB any bulletin board material this week.
Best chance is to hopefully catch’em overconfident…not ticked off.
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maybe the burger case will be a distraction for green bay. maybe they’ll think it so hallarious they wont take the raiders seriously. then cp3o and company can sneak up on them come home with a w.
December 9th, 2011 at 8:19 pm
CODE BLACK In the Muthafukkin house , Packers will down Sunday … They dont scare nobody CODE BLACK
December 9th, 2011 at 8:19 pm
CODE BLACK In the Muthafukkin house , Packers are going down On Sunday … They dont scare nobody CODE BLACK
December 9th, 2011 at 8:32 pm
We Wont get much news till game time ,so catch up with u guys Sunday , have a Code Black style weekend , night all
December 9th, 2011 at 8:39 pm
401.billy bob Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 8:02 pm
Gerard Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 7:59 pm
I’m glad the Raiders haven’t given GB any bulletin board material this week.
Best chance is to hopefully catch’em overconfident…not ticked off.
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maybe the burger case will be a distraction for green bay. maybe they’ll think it so hallarious they wont take the raiders seriously. then cp3o and company can sneak up on them come home with a w.
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Whatever happened to “Rainbow Man”? Remember that guy? He would be a distraction.
December 9th, 2011 at 8:58 pm
Well, must be a Friday night…very quiet in here! See you all laters! Let’s Go Raiders!!!
December 9th, 2011 at 9:09 pm
Denver’s remaining four opponents have a combined record of 26-22. Oakland’s remaining opponents’ record is 29-19. According to ESPN Stats & Information, Oakland’s remaining schedule is tied for the fourth most difficult in the NFL!!
December 9th, 2011 at 9:19 pm
I think we could all write a long list of keys to winning this Sunday. It’s gonna have to be a team effort from players and coaches.
If this game is close in the 4th qtr. Hue might be smokin cig’s on the sideline like Madden used to.
December 9th, 2011 at 9:23 pm
r8eray Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 9:09 pm
Denver’s remaining four opponents have a combined record of 26-22. Oakland’s remaining opponents’ record is 29-19. According to ESPN Stats & Information, Oakland’s remaining schedule is tied for the fourth most difficult in the NFL!!
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can you say conspiracy?
December 9th, 2011 at 9:29 pm
Why the Raiders Will Beat the Packers Sunday
by Greg Smith
http://nflfilms.nfl.com/2011/12/09/why-the-raiders-will-beat-the-packers-sunday/?module=HP11_content_stream
December 9th, 2011 at 9:33 pm
Conspiracy proof:
Fact: Miami gets 10 days rest and Oakland flys east.
How many teams did the Raiders play coming off a bye? More than any other team. Some things never change.
December 9th, 2011 at 9:34 pm
The Packers have a ton of injuries on defense… Pro Bowl safety Nick Collins is definitely out. Linebacker Desmond Bishop is probably out. Linebacker A.J. Hawk looks iffy, and Cornerback Charles Woodson just had a concussion last week.
December 9th, 2011 at 9:36 pm
Last week, the Raiders had an embarrassing road loss and the Packers had an emotional road win. We often see NFL teams coming off those kinds of games give the opposite performance the following week. Consider earlier this year: Following a 48-3 embarrassment in San Francisco, the Buccaneers beat the Saints, 26-20. After an emotional 23-20 win in Pittsburgh, the Ravens lost to Seattle, 22-17.
December 9th, 2011 at 9:43 pm
Why Oakland will win-
1) Hue is fed up with losing and will finally unleash the beast.
2) Amy pimp-handed Chucky B and his defensive scheme to smitherines cause she is fed up with losing. Chucky B will be afraid to fail and he will unleash the beast.
3) Jano ripped the team because he is fed up with losing and does not want to be relied upon to have to kick 14 or 15 field goals to win the game. He doesn’t mind 7 or 8 but no more than that. The team will over acheive for him because he already unleashed the beast.
4) DHB has demanded more throws because he wants to prove he is a beast. It will happen.
5) Bush will want to prove he is a beast. Look out Green Boys.
6) Seymors’ beastiality will be on display. He will be all beast.
7) TK will want in on the beast fest. He’ll be there.
Raiders 41
Puckers 10
December 9th, 2011 at 10:10 pm
Conventional wisdom would be that the approach to beating the Pack should be centered on a time consuming ground attack that keeps Rodgers and Co. off the field.
Sound, logical thinking.
However, the two teams that came closest to beating GB this year, primarily employed a diversified aerial attack to do so.
The Saints and Giants were able to put up 30+ points against GB. It’s likely the Raids will have to do the same in order to be in position to win.
Displaying a strong run game will be an important factor in ending GB’s undefeated season, but it must be augmented by an aerial game that gains chunks of yardage, moves the chains – and most importantly, scores touchdowns.
Can’t settle for FGs against GB.
Sure would be sweet to be the first team to really slow down the GB offense and beat them in a tight, relatively low scoring game. Doubt the Raider defense is going to enable that. Would be more likely with some bad weather and a lot of wind. But the weather for this one should be pretty good.
Looks like the Raids are going to have to outscore GB with DMAC, Ford and Moore sidelined. A tall order, but not an impossible one.
Want to be the best ? Then you’ve got to beat the best.
Time to find out if we’re contenders or pretenders.
A loss in GB won’t end our playoff hopes. A great effort and showing could be the springboard to ripping off 3 in a row.
We’ll get an idea what these guys are made of Sunday afternoon.
Bring it.
December 9th, 2011 at 10:58 pm
Man I hope the D does not mail it in like they did last week. Just effin gave up. If Chuck laid into some ass this week, hopefully they’ll be fine.
Not only does the D got to stop Rogers, they can’t be givin away yards on account of brain fart penalties.
The short winded D is the key to winnin this game. Dont blow it D men. If the D can lay some Packer ass, we’ll be fine.
December 9th, 2011 at 11:03 pm
As always Raiderman as great read…!!!…Well almost always…:)
December 9th, 2011 at 11:03 pm
Its all up to you Chucky B Baby. Get your guys fired up and go out and lay some ass. Screw those Packers good.
December 9th, 2011 at 11:08 pm
Raiders 56
Greened Bay 55
December 9th, 2011 at 11:14 pm
“Raiders at less than full strength vs. Packers”
Thanks Steve
“I will urinate sometime today”
December 9th, 2011 at 11:51 pm
blown coverages could kill us ,cant let people be open by 15 yards .and play action is another we have to watch ,but we cant let them run for 200 yards either
December 9th, 2011 at 11:52 pm
http://www.freepriesttjnow.com
The man who is all Raider, thick and thin, needs to return.
December 9th, 2011 at 11:54 pm
imaquaman Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 11:51 pm
blown coverages could kill us ,cant let people be open by 15 yards .and play action is another we have to watch ,but we cant let them run for 200 yards either
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As long as they (the defense) do not give up like they did in Miami. If they are on, we’ll know it and so will GB. But if they cash it in like they did last week, it will be even uglier.
December 9th, 2011 at 11:55 pm
Bet against the play action early on.
December 10th, 2011 at 12:13 am
This team is full of pu$$ies on offense. By the time they “heal” up Denver will have the AFC West wrapped up. Obviously.
December 10th, 2011 at 12:55 am
Raiders need to score on defense at least once, either interception return or fumble recovery for a touchdown.
December 10th, 2011 at 1:55 am
Raiders at less than full strength vs. Packers
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That is the understatement of the year.
I’d say fire the conditioning coach but the truth is that it’s happening all over the league.
You could put it down to the shortened year or you could also put put it down to the new, union-demanded, no-pads practice sessions demanded in pre-season starting this year.
December 10th, 2011 at 2:04 am
Pujols to play in Oakland?
How many home runs will he hit there?
The salaries that the Angels are paying Pujols and Wilson are fuk’n crazy. $254 and $77 MILLION for just TWO players?!
Let’s hope in the long run that the Angels get screwed.
The fans definitely will because if you want to see a game in Orange County, you’ll have to take out a loan to pay for the ticket.
December 10th, 2011 at 5:30 am
I agree with you guy… Defense is the key…… Gotta keep it close for the Raiders to have a chance …
December 10th, 2011 at 6:23 am
Raiders 32…… Cheetos 25…
December 10th, 2011 at 6:24 am
What’s the word on Jarvis Moss?? We’re gonna need him rushing Rodgers and getting those long arms up distracting him!
December 10th, 2011 at 7:57 am
423.Cranberry Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 11:54 pm
imaquaman Says:
December 9th, 2011 at 11:51 pm
blown coverages could kill us ,cant let people be open by 15 yards .and play action is another we have to watch ,but we cant let them run for 200 yards either
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As long as they (the defense) do not give up like they did in Miami. If they are on, we’ll know it and so will GB. But if they cash it in like they did last week, it will be even uglier.
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One thing going for us is that James Starks the RB is OUT for the game.
He’s a pretty decent back with good power- breaks a lot of tackles and finds the running lanes well.
He’s the best they have, so him not being there is a positive for Raiders.
December 10th, 2011 at 7:57 am
Jarvis Moss…. Limited practice…. I believe he’s playing …
December 10th, 2011 at 8:02 am
We should be able to tell by mid 1st qtr if the Raiders came to play Sunday…. You could see in the first 5 minutes of the Miami game that the Raiders didn’t show up
December 10th, 2011 at 8:02 am
Why the Raiders Will Beat the Packers Sunday
by Greg Smith
Pop the champagne Miami, the undefeated Packers will lose this weekend.
Over the past three seasons, Green Bay has lost just three games at Lambeau Field. One was Brett Favre’s triumphant Viking return in 2009. Another was to the Dolphins in 2010.
The third came at the hands of Carson Palmer.
In Week 2 of 2009, Palmer outplayed Aaron Rodgers to lead the Bengals past the Packers 31-24. Palmer threw for three TDs and ran for one against Dom Capers’ Green Bay defense. That day Cincinnati rushed for 150 yards, converted 9 of 14 third downs, and won time of possession 33:48 – 26:12. Aaron Rodgers had one of the worst games of his career, throwing only 1 TD and taking 6 sacks. Green Bay couldn’t run the ball. Ryan Grant lost a fumble.
The ‘11 Raiders are similar to those ‘09 Bengals, and should have similar success in Green Bay. Oakland has a great offensive line that can control the clock with the running game, a defense that can rush the passer, and a veteran roster that won’t get rattled on the road, as evidenced by Raider wins this year in Houston and San Diego.
Carson Palmer (AP)
But the biggest similarity is Palmer, who has faced Capers’ defensive scheme many times. As a Bengal, he played Dick LeBeau’s Steelers twice a year. LeBeau and Capers run the same system.
Three times Palmer defeated the Steelers in Pittsburgh, throwing 7 TDs to just 2 INTs, with a passer rating of 96. Considering it’s been equally as difficult to win in Pittsburgh as it’s been to win in Green Bay the past few years, Palmer’s four road wins speaks to his leadership and confidence against the LeBeau/Capers scheme.
This Sunday, the Raiders will likely control the line of scrimmage, rush for 150+ yards, and play keep-away from Aaron Rodgers. Palmer will look to find mismatches against an injury-riddled Packers defense, by utilizing his speedy wide receivers and versatile athletes like Marcel Reece.
Oakland’s defense will, of course, have its work cut out facing Rodgers. But where the Raiders have particularly struggled this season is against the run – something the Packers don’t do well. The key in slowing down Green Bay will be creating pressure without blitzing, converging to the ball, and hitting hard once they arrive. The Raiders must force the Packers into fumbles and dropped passes.
A few reasons I like Oakland this week:
Aaron Rodgers (AP)
It’s a must-win for the Raiders and far from a must-win for the Packers.
The Law of Averages says the Packers passing game is due for a clunker. In baseball, there’s usually someone hitting .400 in June, who inevitably falls well short of that mark by season’s end. Green Bay has been completing low percentage passes at high percentages all season and it can’t possibly continue without a misstep. A defense will get to the explosive offense of the ’11 Packers, just like the Bucs defense beat up the ’99 Rams, the Giants got to the ’07 Patriots, and the Jets handled the ’10 Patriots.
Same goes for Rodgers. As machine-like as he has been this season, he is a human… He will have a clunker eventually.
The Packers have a ton of injuries on defense… Pro Bowl safety Nick Collins is definitely out. Linebacker Desmond Bishop is probably out. Linebacker A.J. Hawk looks iffy, and Cornerback Charles Woodson just had a concussion last week.
The Raiders have the best punter/kicker combo in the NFL, which can help make up for a deficiency in yardage.
Hue Jackson’s bravado could lead to a gamble, onside kick or fake, that gains a possession back for Oakland.
Last week, the Raiders had an embarrassing road loss and the Packers had an emotional road win. We often see NFL teams coming off those kinds of games give the opposite performance the following week. Consider earlier this year: Following a 48-3 embarrassment in San Francisco, the Buccaneers beat the Saints, 26-20. After an emotional 23-20 win in Pittsburgh, the Ravens lost to Seattle, 22-17.
Editor’s Note: Greg Smith provides his X and O analysis to productions that include NFL Turning Point, NFL Network Playbook and NFL.com’s Anatomy of a Play Series.
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This would really make my day if it came true.
December 10th, 2011 at 8:02 am
Problem is wherever Raiders are vulnerable Rodgers will exploit it. He will kill you underneath with passes to Driver and TE Finley and if u stop that, he’ll burn u deep with Jennings and Jordy Nelson…and Driver coming back to the ball.
This is what happens when u spend years working the same system and practicing it year after year with most of the same guys and few injuries to that receiving corps.
Even their “bad” guys are good.
They CAN be beaten. It’s just that nobody has been able to.
December 10th, 2011 at 8:08 am
Could help that the Pack has already clinched their Division…and they might overlook us …..
Oakland has won these kinds of games in the past… Games we were supposed to have no chance…..The Raiders are gonna have to keep the penalties down…
December 10th, 2011 at 8:10 am
The Raiders need to try and win out the schedule… That’s a tough hill to climb with the injuries to our team…. Really frustrating that we haven’t been able to see Palmer with a fully loaded offense ….
December 10th, 2011 at 8:13 am
I know I’ll get heat for this but that HUGE CHOKE and failure in Miami sent me spiraling out of control and back to Bed N Breakfast mode.
This team has choked in games against beatable teams all year and has put nobody away when they had them down……They have lucked out with last minute picks in the end zone against Houston and Minnesota. Hell they dodged two bullets in the Houston game, with not only the pick but the dropped TD just before the pick.
THEY ARE DONE!!!!! Pack it up for this year.
Too many injuries and too many stupid penalties.
December 10th, 2011 at 8:25 am
Babyslash… I don’t know about done yet…. But everything you posted happened…. Last Sunday in Miami was a kick in the gut for sure…. Gotta win at least 3 of these last 4… If they can’t do that , then yes, their done ..
December 10th, 2011 at 8:26 am
Babyslash, I get where you’re coming from. It’s true; that Miami game was a huuuuuge disappointment on so many levels.
It was a key game to come out like that and it epitomized everything that has been wrong with the Raiders for a long time.
I am still very ticked off about that game. As a fan it was a monumental let down. Miami looked like the team with something to play for. THEY looked like the team who was in first place in their division and fighting for the playoffs.
I still cannot get my mind around what happened last Sunday.
It will forever be a stain on the resume of Hue Jackson imo.
It may not seem like it, but it IS still possible we can win the division. We have to win and somebody has to catch up with Tebow.
December 10th, 2011 at 8:32 am
I am also EXTREMELY tired of Hue’s B.S….”this loss is on me, no excuses” etc. He is full of clichés since he started this job. In the start we and the players believed him, and his act is getting old…words, words, words….that are losing their power.
Don’t just talk about getting penalties fixed …get them fixed. No difference now than with Shell and Bed and Breakfast, Dumbest Team in America garbage….just a more charismatic head coach and some better players, who still are idiots.
December 10th, 2011 at 8:37 am
and sure we still have a chance to win the division…a mathematical chance…but this team has not displayed any true character at all….they have choked more times than they have come through. They have had not even made a comeback of any relevance in any of the games, except against the Bills and then choked.
Don’t drink the cool aid….look at the facts…what has the team done? Choked at every chance they have had and underperformed at key times….and gotten lucky and backed into all of their wins.
F*cking SAD that Tebow has more MOJO than we do!!!! How the hell does that happen? We have no mojo at all….choke artists!
December 10th, 2011 at 8:37 am
Hi Dakota, Great Laker trade huh ?
I’m convinced that most people are good at heart. Consequently, Raiders players, embarassed by spineless Hue Jackson’s tone deaf non response to McClain Gate, unconsiously were unable to give it their best in Miami.
Further, Hue Jackson’s inability to even slightly punish McClain, casts an even deeper shadow in light of the tragic CJ situation, and provides refs ample reason to intensify their displeasure via penalty flags thrown whenever possible …
December 10th, 2011 at 8:37 am
Hi Dakota, Great Laker trade huh ?
I’m convinced that most people are good at heart. Consequently, Raiders players, embarassed by spineless Hue Jackson’s tone deaf non response to McClain Gate, unconsiously were unable to give it their best in Miami.
Further, Hue Jackson’s inability to even slightly punish McClain, casts an even deeper shadow in light of the tragic CJ situation, and provides refs ample reason to intensify their displeasure via penalty flags thrown whenever possible …
December 10th, 2011 at 8:40 am
What really fills me with hate is that Hue thinks I as a fan am an idiot that can’t see what’s happening on the field. We all know what we are. We just choose to try to pretend to believe in this chaotic cast of chumps who choke at every drop of the dime and never step it up in the real Raider spirit……Hue’s a used car salesman.
December 10th, 2011 at 8:42 am
I turned off the Miami choke job…did CJ get burned time after time? Why was he even in there when Lito has been playing solid….?
December 10th, 2011 at 8:45 am
Slash, You are saying the same stuff that I have felt and said many times. I can tell you’re a huge fan and you’re just sick of the crap.
I like the way Hue carries himself in representing the team for the most part, but almost EVERYTHING he said he was gonna fix he hasn’t and the words turn hollow, like it’s all the same old coachspeak b.s. “It’s all on me”, blah blah blah. He is the 32nd HC this year to say that (except for McCarthy who hasn’t had to yet). Say something that means something…better yet DO something you say you’ll do.
Has he fixed the penalty “issue”? NO. Has he built a “bully” Hell to the no, and i would like somebody to show me facts that prove we are that much better off with Hue than we were with Cable outside of resorting to worn out fat jokes to make their case.
I personally prefer Hue over Cable in a lot of ways but when u look at it we are only one win better. 8-8 with Cable and 7-5 with Hue, with NONE of the problems carrying over from last year that got fixed.
I DO like the fact Hue went and got Palmer. Cable couldn’t of/wouldn’t of done that. Hue seems like a smarter guy, but yes, still the same old b.s coachspeak.
Spare me that please and say something original and “Just Win Baby”.
December 10th, 2011 at 8:57 am
I do like what Hue has done on offense. It’s a much better offense than it has been since Gannon. I love that he went out and tried to save the season by hooking up with Palmer….but he seems to be delusional and his team does not perform.
Big Sey is a great example of this….15 mil a year and the dude disappears from games, gets penalties and gets tossed from games on a continual basis…he is supposed to be a leader.
December 10th, 2011 at 9:07 am
The Raiders have lucked out in some of their wins… But look at the Donkeys . All of their wins have been last minute lucky wins…. And the wheels are about to come off the Tebow bandwagon …even Greenbay needed a last minute drive to beat the Giants … That’s the Nfl these days….
December 10th, 2011 at 9:08 am
Last week we looked defeated, tired and vanilla, right out of the gate. Hue has to get some guys deeper on the depth chart more involved. Next man up. Give Reece 10 carries andd save Bush for the 2nd half where he seems to excel. Get Housh the ball early and often. Make this fvcker earn his pay over the middle and set up the deep strike to Chaz, Murphy & DHB.
On defense, try a corner blitz for once this year! Drop some guys off the D-line into coverage and send some NB, or LB’s. Ex- drop Henderson and Moss while blitzing Curry & Branch. Smash their WR’s on the line, mess with the timing.
If the fvcking rams could beat the saints we could win this game. WE NEED TO WIN 3 out of our next 4!
TOUCHDOWN RRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIDDDDEEERRRSSSS!!
December 10th, 2011 at 9:16 am
I’ve been reading rumors on twitter that DMAC is being held out for disciplinary reasons. Cue X files theme.
December 10th, 2011 at 9:19 am
morilla Says:
December 10th, 2011 at 9:16 am
I’ve been reading rumors on twitter that DMAC is being held out for disciplinary reasons. Cue X files theme.
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And RoMac played after what happened last week? Pfffft, there is no discipline on this team.
December 10th, 2011 at 9:34 am
Looks like the clock on the website has gone hay wire again???
Anyways, as a LONG time fan of the Raiders, yes, I am sick of all the BS that goes on…but I will tell you this…at 7-5, tied for first in the division (of course, it should have never gotten to a tie) and of course, a very tough schedule to close out…I will NEVER say, pack it up, we are done! And I don’t need to drink the kool-aid…the silver and black kool-aid is already in my veins. We weren’t out of it last year until week 16, and a worse record, so at 7-5, I still believe until the end!!!
Raider On Nation!!!
December 10th, 2011 at 9:39 am
RIGHT ON HWNRDR!
This thing ain’t over no matter what happens tommorrow.
Go RAIDERS!
CODE BLACK on the Pack!
Morilla: got any links to this twitter stuff about DMac?
December 10th, 2011 at 9:45 am
Good Morning VanHeaten! Yes, we need to win out and a little help to either win the division or get in as a WC, but we are NOT done yet! Also, NE usually plays very good at the end of the year and Denver still has to go to Buffalo, so anything can happen! So, yes…
Go RAIDERS! and..
CODE BLACK is on for the remainder of the year!
Still in effect!
December 10th, 2011 at 9:54 am
Morning Nation!
This D has to help out to win the game. No more 3rd and longs being gained for a 1st down. I’m so sick of seeing the middle of the field wide open, only to have a QB or TE run freely. Why is there not a spy?
This unit has to tighten up and create a few turnovers and NOT let teams sustain every freaking drive! Give the O and the team a chance. Front four pressure and they can’t give their WR’s a 5-10 yd cushion.
We’ll see which team will show up sunday.
December 10th, 2011 at 10:14 am
A few qoutes from Rodgers and Jennings. They will not be over looking us. Gonna be a dog fight!
“If anything, you’re worried about a team like that who’s coming off a tough loss, because you know this could be a statement game for them, and you don’t want them to be able to make that statement on your team,” receiver Greg Jennings said. “There’s a level of focus we’ll have to have again, and I think we’ll be prepared.”
“This game is important to us, too,” Rodgers said.
December 10th, 2011 at 10:17 am
Good! I wouldn’t want it any other way! You wanna be the best, you have to beat the best…at their best!
December 10th, 2011 at 10:26 am
VanHeathen Says:
December 10th, 2011 at 9:39 am
RIGHT ON HWNRDR!
This thing ain’t over no matter what happens tommorrow.
Go RAIDERS!
CODE BLACK on the Pack!
Morilla: got any links to this twitter stuff about DMac?
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There is one on Corks page on the first tweet. Some guy says he heard this and that. I don’t buy into it. But Dmac sure has been out longer than it takes to heal from what he has.
December 10th, 2011 at 10:34 am
@CorkOnTheNFL If I knew the specifics I promise you I would tell you, Jerry, Vitto, all of you. I was told “major team policy violation
@Im_Al_Davis
@CorkOnTheNFL Someone needs to not be afraid to ask, “Hue theres rumors DMC is NOT hurt but being held out for disiplinary reasons, comment?
9 Dec via web
December 10th, 2011 at 10:38 am
From fairly well, to the same old shxt last week, to players taking forever to get well, it was all enough to keep me from this site or any site for the pass week. It’s just to fustrating at times and better not to read the hype and then get disappointed again.
Our only hope is that we get our key players ready for the Lions and we run the table with three wins. Then we have to hope that the donkeys lose two out of their last four games. This Tebow crzp just adds salt to our wounds.
Love McFadden, but he’s useless sitting on the bench. Palmer needs to step up his game and Hue has to stop running (80%) of the time on first down. He’s to predictable.
Like most of you, I’m tired as hzll and I’m not going to take it any more. When will the pain end, when will we finally make it to the playoffs as well???
December 10th, 2011 at 10:44 am
Ground and pound baby, Bush, Reece, Tonga up middle all day wish we still had rankin to mix in.
December 10th, 2011 at 10:52 am
Hue wouldn’t hold dmac out, just win baby is our motto. Dmac ain’t ready prob won’t be back for Detroit either.
December 10th, 2011 at 11:06 am
This Rookie inside linebacker DJ Smith is playing in place of Bishop and AJ Hawk participated in practice fri but questionable.
We should really take advantage of the middle of the field and challenge these 2. Bush, Reece, Myers and Boss better bring the heat!
December 10th, 2011 at 11:10 am
9:00 P.M. ET, ESPN will be showing a documentory on Todd Marinovich, “Robo Back”. He has a son and daughter.
December 10th, 2011 at 11:15 am
Stop making up sh*t. The tweet does not exist on McFadden.
December 10th, 2011 at 11:21 am
Carson Bomber has had a lot of time to build chemistry with DHB Chaz & Murph with Ford and Moore out. Concerned with Bush getting gassed, but i believe this is the game CP will show he’s a top qb and get us a W
December 10th, 2011 at 11:30 am
Don’t really believe Hue would hold McFadden out for disciplinary reasons since McClain wasn’t heldout … It would have to be for a reason worse that McClains accusations … Just don’t think that’s it..
December 10th, 2011 at 11:46 am
Exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
December 10th, 2011 at 11:15 am
Stop making up sh*t. The tweet does not exist on McFadden.
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Uhhhh, it does. I just pasted it up there^. It’s a response on Corks page.
I didn’t say I believe it, it sounds outlandish.
December 10th, 2011 at 12:04 pm
Gerard Says:
December 10th, 2011 at 8:45 am
Slash, You are saying the same stuff that I have felt and said many times. I can tell you’re a huge fan and you’re just sick of the crap.
I like the way Hue carries himself in representing the team for the most part, but almost EVERYTHING he said he was gonna fix he hasn’t and the words turn hollow, like it’s all the same old coachspeak b.s. “It’s all on me”, blah blah blah. He is the 32nd HC this year to say that (except for McCarthy who hasn’t had to yet). Say something that means something…better yet DO something you say you’ll do.
Has he fixed the penalty “issue”? NO. Has he built a “bully” Hell to the no, and i would like somebody to show me facts that prove we are that much better off with Hue than we were with Cable outside of resorting to worn out fat jokes to make their case.
I personally prefer Hue over Cable in a lot of ways but when u look at it we are only one win better. 8-8 with Cable and 7-5 with Hue, with NONE of the problems carrying over from last year that got fixed.
I DO like the fact Hue went and got Palmer. Cable couldn’t of/wouldn’t of done that. Hue seems like a smarter guy, but yes, still the same old b.s coachspeak.
Spare me that please and say something original and “Just Win Baby”.
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Agree with most of what you say. However, there is no evidence that Hue is smarter than Cable, or even that he’ll finsish better than 8-8. As for the Carson Palmer trade, there is no evidence that Al would have pulled the trigger if he were alive. But, it’s good to have another rational skeptic on board – better than reading 95% of the puerile drivel on this blog that masquerades as reasoned analysis.
December 10th, 2011 at 12:06 pm
435.HairyBush Says:
December 10th, 2011 at 8:02 am
Why the Raiders Will Beat the Packers Sunday
by Greg Smith
Pop the champagne Miami, the undefeated Packers will lose this weekend.
Over the past three seasons, Green Bay has lost just three games at Lambeau Field. One was Brett Favre’s triumphant Viking return in 2009. Another was to the Dolphins in 2010.
The third came at the hands of Carson Palmer.
In Week 2 of 2009, Palmer outplayed Aaron Rodgers to lead the Bengals past the Packers 31-24. Palmer threw for three TDs and ran for one against Dom Capers’ Green Bay defense. That day Cincinnati rushed for 150 yards, converted 9 of 14 third downs, and won time of possession 33:48 – 26:12. Aaron Rodgers had one of the worst games of his career, throwing only 1 TD and taking 6 sacks. Green Bay couldn’t run the ball. Ryan Grant lost a fumble.
The ‘11 Raiders are similar to those ‘09 Bengals, and should have similar success in Green Bay. Oakland has a great offensive line that can control the clock with the running game, a defense that can rush the passer, and a veteran roster that won’t get rattled on the road, as evidenced by Raider wins this year in Houston and San Diego.
Carson Palmer (AP)
But the biggest similarity is Palmer, who has faced Capers’ defensive scheme many times. As a Bengal, he played Dick LeBeau’s Steelers twice a year. LeBeau and Capers run the same system.
Three times Palmer defeated the Steelers in Pittsburgh, throwing 7 TDs to just 2 INTs, with a passer rating of 96. Considering it’s been equally as difficult to win in Pittsburgh as it’s been to win in Green Bay the past few years, Palmer’s four road wins speaks to his leadership and confidence against the LeBeau/Capers scheme.
This Sunday, the Raiders will likely control the line of scrimmage, rush for 150+ yards, and play keep-away from Aaron Rodgers. Palmer will look to find mismatches against an injury-riddled Packers defense, by utilizing his speedy wide receivers and versatile athletes like Marcel Reece.
Oakland’s defense will, of course, have its work cut out facing Rodgers. But where the Raiders have particularly struggled this season is against the run – something the Packers don’t do well. The key in slowing down Green Bay will be creating pressure without blitzing, converging to the ball, and hitting hard once they arrive. The Raiders must force the Packers into fumbles and dropped passes.
A few reasons I like Oakland this week:
Aaron Rodgers (AP)
It’s a must-win for the Raiders and far from a must-win for the Packers.
The Law of Averages says the Packers passing game is due for a clunker. In baseball, there’s usually someone hitting .400 in June, who inevitably falls well short of that mark by season’s end. Green Bay has been completing low percentage passes at high percentages all season and it can’t possibly continue without a misstep. A defense will get to the explosive offense of the ’11 Packers, just like the Bucs defense beat up the ’99 Rams, the Giants got to the ’07 Patriots, and the Jets handled the ’10 Patriots.
Same goes for Rodgers. As machine-like as he has been this season, he is a human… He will have a clunker eventually.
The Packers have a ton of injuries on defense… Pro Bowl safety Nick Collins is definitely out. Linebacker Desmond Bishop is probably out. Linebacker A.J. Hawk looks iffy, and Cornerback Charles Woodson just had a concussion last week.
The Raiders have the best punter/kicker combo in the NFL, which can help make up for a deficiency in yardage.
Hue Jackson’s bravado could lead to a gamble, onside kick or fake, that gains a possession back for Oakland.
Last week, the Raiders had an embarrassing road loss and the Packers had an emotional road win. We often see NFL teams coming off those kinds of games give the opposite performance the following week. Consider earlier this year: Following a 48-3 embarrassment in San Francisco, the Buccaneers beat the Saints, 26-20. After an emotional 23-20 win in Pittsburgh, the Ravens lost to Seattle, 22-17.
Editor’s Note: Greg Smith provides his X and O analysis to productions that include NFL Turning Point, NFL Network Playbook and NFL.com’s Anatomy of a Play Series.
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This would really make my day if it came true.
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Greg Smith’s editor probably wanted a contrarian piece, but he makes some very good points. Hadn’t really thought about CP’s success against the Steelers’ D on the road. Pretty much had this written off as a loss all week, but I must admit this article has swayed me. Gonna put a hundy on the moneyline just in case.
December 10th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
THE RAIDER PREDICTION BOARD
Dedicated to the legacy of Al Davis
Protected by the rally squirrel and Coliseum rodents
2011 Raider Games
First: Ghostraider (exact score) Raiders 23 Broncos 20
Second: Sullivan44 Buffalo 38 Raiders 35
Third: Pretty Rick Raiders 34 Jets 24
Fourth: Sullivan44 Patriots 31 Raiders 14
Fifth: Fingers Raiders 24 Browns 17
Sixth: Zymurge Chiefs 28 Raiders 0 (WTF)
Honorable Mention: LA for PAIN
Seventh: Noone…at all. Broncos 38 Raiders 24
Eighth: La Milicia Negra (exact score (sadly))
Ninth: TheToozFan55 (exact score) Raiders 24 Bolts 17
Tenth: TRIPLE TIE (Exact score) Raiders 27 Vikings 20
R8eray + Just Fire Baby + The Big Banana
Eleventh: Beware of Raiders Raiders 25 Bears 20
Twelth: Autopalm77 Dolphins 34 Raiders 14
909RaiderLifer RAIDERS–27 FUDGE PACKERS–23
baumraiders Raiders 34 Packers 31 LOL
Blackmamba_20 The Mighty S&B 23 Unwashed Forskins 20
Buck Snort Oak 24 Puckers 10
Dakota Packers 35, Raiders 13
Deja vu Raiders 34 GB 31
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL OAKLAND 27 GREEN BAY 31
DMAC Raiders 31 Cheese heads 28
downsouthraider Raiders 24 Cheese Whiz 21
exlaraiderseasonticketholder 31-27
GG Raiders 38 Packers 37
Ghostraider Raiders 20 pack. .16..
Gilligan Raiders 45 Green Bay 42
HairyBush oak-31 gb-24
hwnrdr OAKLAND 27 GREEN BAY 31
imaquaman raiders 31 packers 28
Jesus Packers 35 Raiders 20
Just Fire Baby Raiders 41 Green Bud Packers 38
Lowdown_in_Beijing Raiders 36 Packers 12
McFadden20 34-24 Raiders
Method To My Madness Raiders 35 Packers 21
morilla Raiders 3 – Packers 2
Pretty Rick Raiders-27 Packers-23 (gulp)
PlunkforHOF Raiders 17 Lackers 10
qodrn Raiders 38 Packers 35
Raider-in-PA Raiders 34 Packers 31
RaiderintheRockies Raiders 31 Pack 27
RaiderRetribution Raiders 20 Green Bay 14
RaiderRockstar Pirates 30 Cheeseballs 28
riraider GB 45 Oakghetto 0
rob_raider raiders 31 packers 27
Silverandblack666 Raiders 38 Packers 35
Sullivan44 Green Bay 41, Raiders 17
December 10th, 2011 at 12:21 pm
You want to be the best, you gotta beat the best.
Go Raiders!
December 10th, 2011 at 12:27 pm
35-33 Raiders
December 10th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
Gasol to NO, Paul to Lakers, new trade submitted to league for approval.
December 10th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
Raiders 32….. Peckers 25…
December 10th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
Gasol to Rockets Paul to Lakers, Odom to NO, Houston still sends Kevin Martin, Luis Scola, and a 2012 first-round pick to the Hornets.
December 10th, 2011 at 12:52 pm
Rodney Harrison…( laughing)… The Raiders have No Chance At All…..
Hue Jackson should play the clip of Harrison laughing at Raiders……
Fk Rodney Harrison…the Wimp ..
December 10th, 2011 at 12:57 pm
BobMcGinn Bob McGinn
Carson Palmer’s adjustment woes with #Raiders obviously not all his fault. One scout ripped Heyward-Bey, other WRs for imprecise routes.
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And yet some people *cough*steve*cough* think SanJay Lal is just fine.
Thats why Hue brought in TJ Housh because none of the Raider receivers can run mid level routes and to teach them how to play WR.
Lal is a never should of been that will be GONE nest season.
Raider receivers are terrible route runners thats of course when they can even make the field
December 10th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
472. Don’t forget the Raiders Bucs SB. Rogers is very Gannon like…
December 10th, 2011 at 1:02 pm
Raiders 24-17
December 10th, 2011 at 1:30 pm
I feel like a guru. Did i call it or what? Oakland is the last place people want to live (yes, I know, some of you live in squalor because you have no choice) and the last place teams want to play. Raiders are being told by the NFL that their best bet is to beg the 49ers to let them in their new state of the art stadium, A’s are packing for SJ, and the Warriors are craving to set up camp near the Giants stadium in SF.
What’s funny was Armchair, in his cranium challenged way, went on and on how Oakland was the only place with 3 sports. Now it turns out Oakland will have zero sports.
December 10th, 2011 at 1:35 pm
Hey QODRN!
OAK 33 GB 31
on a last minute Jano FG from 55 yds away.
December 10th, 2011 at 1:46 pm
You know, all this talk about Palmer’s past success against the GB D and the like is very interesting. I’m sure he will have a lot of input on what worked back then and will see on tape if GB is doing similar things this year, and will help make an offensive plan that he knows will be efficient.
I hope that advantage comes in handy and we walk out of there with a much needed W.
December 10th, 2011 at 2:09 pm
Raiders 20 Cheeseheads 17 close game but we can do it. Coming off an embarrssing loss to the late coming dolphins we will bounce back
December 10th, 2011 at 2:09 pm
THE RAIDER PREDICTION BOARD
Dedicated to the legacy of Al Davis
Protected by the rally squirrel and Coliseum rodents
2011 Raider Games
First: Ghostraider (exact score) Raiders 23 Broncos 20
Second: Sullivan44 Buffalo 38 Raiders 35
Third: Pretty Rick Raiders 34 Jets 24
Fourth: Sullivan44 Patriots 31 Raiders 14
Fifth: Fingers Raiders 24 Browns 17
Sixth: Zymurge Chiefs 28 Raiders 0 (WTF)
Honorable Mention: LA for PAIN
Seventh: Noone…at all. Broncos 38 Raiders 24
Eighth: La Milicia Negra (exact score (sadly))
Ninth: TheToozFan55 (exact score) Raiders 24 Bolts 17
Tenth: TRIPLE TIE (Exact score) Raiders 27 Vikings 20
R8eray + Just Fire Baby + The Big Banana
Eleventh: Beware of Raiders Raiders 25 Bears 20
Twelth: Autopalm77 Dolphins 34 Raiders 14
909RaiderLifer RAIDERS–27 FUDGE PACKERS–23
baumraiders Raiders 34 Packers 31 LOL
Blackmamba_20 The Mighty S&B 23 Unwashed Forskins 20
Buck Snort Oak 24 Puckers 10
Dakota Packers 35, Raiders 13
Deja vu Raiders 34 GB 31
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL OAKLAND 27 GREEN BAY 31
DMAC Raiders 31 Cheese heads 28
downsouthraider Raiders 24 Cheese Whiz 21
EMRaiders OAK 33 GB 31
exlaraiderseasonticketholder 31-27
fingers Raiders 32….. Peckers 25…
GG Raiders 38 Packers 37
Ghostraider Raiders 20 pack. .16..
Gilligan Raiders 45 Green Bay 42
GoodOle00 Raiders 24-17
HairyBush oak-31 gb-24
hwnrdr OAKLAND 27 GREEN BAY 31
imaquaman raiders 31 packers 28
Jesus Packers 35 Raiders 20
Just Fire Baby Raiders 41 Green Bud Packers 38
Lowdown_in_Beijing Raiders 36 Packers 12
McFadden20 34-24 Raiders
Method To My Madness Raiders 35 Packers 21
morilla Raiders 3 – Packers 2
Pretty Rick Raiders-27 Packers-23 (gulp)
PlunkforHOF Raiders 17 Lackers 10
qodrn Raiders 38 Packers 35
r8eray 35-33 Raiders
Raider-in-PA Raiders 34 Packers 31
RaiderintheRockies Raiders 31 Pack 27
RaiderRetribution Raiders 20 Green Bay 14
RaiderRockstar Pirates 30 Cheeseballs 28
riraider GB 45 Oakghetto 0
rob_raider raiders 31 packers 27
Silverandblack666 Raiders 38 Packers 35
Sullivan44 Green Bay 41, Raiders 17
December 10th, 2011 at 2:10 pm
Fingers:
Sorry, thought for some reason I already had you on the board. Maybe the weeks are starting to run together. Actually, I was kind of getting mad because you kept putting that score up…
Anyway, you made it for this week. More than Run DMC
can say.
December 10th, 2011 at 2:11 pm
As a member of the Raider Nation, can I still get pie at Nations?
December 10th, 2011 at 2:17 pm
Sterling Moore just got cut by the Pats.
December 10th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
Some stuff from the Packer web site.
Top 5 MatchUps between the Raiders and Packers
1. Raiders guards and center vs. B.J. Raji—Raji is going to see blockers coming at him from both sides and straight at him. The triumvirate of guards Cooper Carlisle and Stefen Wisniewski and center Samson Satele is formidable, especially considering what will be running downhill on Raji, which is to say 245-pound running back Michael Bush. This is the premier matchup on the defensive side of the ball for the Packers. If Raji doesn’t hold the point, it’ll be a long day for the Packers defense and a short day for Aaron Rodgers.
2. Packers corners vs. Darrius Heyward-Bey—The Raiders wide receiver is pure speed and the Raiders have no doubt detected the Packers’ penchant for allowing big plays in the passing game, so expect to see Heyward-Bey test Charles Woodson and Tramon Williams deep on multiple occasions, especially if the Raiders are able to run the ball and force the Packers to commit a safety to the line of scrimmage.
3. Michael Bush vs. Packers safeties—Charlie Peprah and Morgan Burnett don’t dare go high on Bush as they did on LeGarrette Blount. The Packers safeties must tackle better than they did in the game against Tampa Bay.
4. T.J. Lang vs. Richard Seymour—Seymour is in his 11th season but he has six sacks and when he gets his motor revved, he plays with grit, energy and a nasty streak. Lang will be a featured performer on the Packers’ offensive line.
5. Khalif Barnes vs. Clay Matthews—Barnes is a former left tackle who is in the seventh year of a checkered career. Matthews is coming off his best game of the season, which included a pick-six interception. Is Matthews on the verge of becoming the dominant playmaker he was a year ago? Keep an eye on this matchup.
It was somewhat lost in the subtlety of its delivery, but make no mistake, the challenge was there.
“I’m fully confident we’re going to play championship defense down the stretch,” Packers Head Coach Mike McCarthy said on Wednesday, when asked his opinion of his team’s defense, which continued its season-long struggles by allowing 447 yards to the Giants last Sunday.
If defense does, in fact, win championships – there is increasing evidence those days are behind us – then the Packers need to fix at least one major component of their defense: Stop allowing big plays.
They allowed big plays again last Sunday, having been torched for pass plays of 67, 51 and 42 yards. If they could eliminate nothing more than the big plays they’re allowing on defense, the unit’s overall rank would improve significantly from its current No. 31 ranking.
“We’re looking at five plays a game we have to win instead of lose,” McCarthy said.
It must also be acknowledged that the Packers are making a lot of big, game-changing plays on defense, but what if that stops? Can they count on doing that against playoff-caliber competition in the postseason? What if the positive big plays stop but the negative big plays don’t?
Defensive Coordinator Dom Capers has four games to reverse his unit’s trend. He has a month to whip his defense into postseason shape, which is to say into a unit that gets off the field on third down and limits the opponent’s yardage and possession time. That’s playoff defense.
Though this Sunday’s opponent doesn’t appear on paper to be a threat to the Packers’ unblemished record, there is the matter of that number “four” in the rush-offense category. The Oakland Raiders don’t do the trendy things well, but they run the ball and they have a fierce kicking game, and that’s been a time-honored formula for playoff success.
The Raiders are the perfect opponent for the Packers, which is to say the perfect opponent for a team that’s already clinched a playoff berth and now needs to tailor its game for postseason success. The Packers need to know they can stop the run, which they did early in the season but haven’t done nearly as well of late, and they need to know they have a defense that can change its ways and take its play to a higher level, the “championship” level.
Here are 10 things the Packers have to do to beat the Raiders:
1. Win the battle of the line of scrimmage—That’s another way of saying stop the run, which begins with defenders defeating blocks. The Packers’ defensive front did not do that often enough against the Giants.
2. Be efficient on offense—A running team such as the Raiders can limit possessions and plays in a game. The Packers must not be wasteful.
3. Be physical—This is not the time in the season to become finesse.
4. Respect field position—Raiders punter Shane Lechler is the Ray Guy of his time. He forces opponents to play the field-position game, lest they find themselves playing from deep in their own territory all day.
5. Be ready—Because it sounds as though the Raiders will.
6. Get help deep—The Raiders have no doubt seen the Packers’ penchant for allowing big plays, and the Raiders’ receivers have the speed to get deep and Raiders football has always been about throwing deep.
7. Tackle—High-tackling and arm-tackling won’t work against Michael Bush. Bush makes you use your shoulder pads.
8. Block Seymour—He can still be disruptive and when his motor is revving, look out.
9. Run the ball a little—The Raiders are 28th in run-defense. To not run it against the Raiders is to leave yardage on the field.
10. Stop the drops—They were contagious last Sunday.
December 10th, 2011 at 2:36 pm
[...] Raiders at less than full strength vs. Packers Raiders coach Hue Jackson just announced that running backs Darren McFadden (foot) and Taiwan Jones (hamstring) and wide receivers Denarius Moore (foot) and Jacoby Ford (foot) will not play Sunday against the Green Bay Packers. All four of those play… [...]
December 10th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
—”Patriots waived CB Sterling Moore. Moore surprisingly played all 73 of New England’s defensive snaps in Week 10 against the Jets despite being signed off the practice squad just four days earlier, and was used heavily in Weeks 11 and 12. He was de-emphasized against the Colts, however, and will be replaced by fellow rookie Malcolm Williams. So it goes in New England’s secondary”—
so, sterling moore is awailable again..
December 10th, 2011 at 2:46 pm
frustrated, pissed off, nervous, fired up, yelling at tv, broken tv, loss of Al, play calling, penalties, bone head players at times, great players at times…
It’s fkn hard to be a RAIDERS fan sometimes.
I’m gonna go biatch slap my wife then go kick the dog.
December 10th, 2011 at 2:47 pm
Sandusky44 needs to stop showering with these young Raider players. McFadden’s injury is not his foot. The foot is a cover up. McFadden slipped in the shower and broke his hymen trying to run away from Sully’s soapy knot.
December 10th, 2011 at 2:52 pm
Raiders For Life Says:
December 10th, 2011 at 2:46 pm
frustrated, pissed off, nervous, fired up, yelling at tv, broken tv, loss of Al, play calling, penalties, bone head players at times, great players at times…
It’s fkn hard to be a RAIDERS fan sometimes.
I’m gonna go biatch slap my wife then go kick the dog.
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good list
December 10th, 2011 at 2:54 pm
Hey Manouk! Whats good? The troll has been severely running his mouth here lately.. Its time for that phone call.
December 10th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
# 488.. Qodrn….. Thank you:)…. And much thanks you’s for the effort of posting our picks… You rock ……
December 10th, 2011 at 3:02 pm
Whats up plunk? How are ya?
December 10th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
I was at the KC game and didn’t even see McFadden get hurt. What’s the real story here? I am starting to seriously question whether or not the guy is injured. Doesn’t speak to the media. What the heck did he do?
December 10th, 2011 at 3:14 pm
It is true that Oakland has done nothing to demonstrate it can keep the Raiders and A’s. Silicon Valley is where the money is, and that’s where both teams are headed if you want to be competitive.
December 10th, 2011 at 3:29 pm
Beach Says:
December 10th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
I was at the KC game and didn’t even see McFadden get hurt. What’s the real story here? I am starting to seriously question whether or not the guy is injured. Doesn’t speak to the media. What the heck did he do?
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Why can’t the most reasonable explanation be true? His injury may have been misdiagnosed, worse that originally thought or is not healing as quickly as expected.
I can understand that it is the Raiders, and as such anything is possible, but anything other than injury has got to be considered highly unlikely.
December 10th, 2011 at 4:21 pm
It would be sad to see the A’s leave for the Silicon Valley. It’s like a Hell’s Angel going to the Sex and The City premiere.
December 10th, 2011 at 4:29 pm
BabySlash Says:
December 10th, 2011 at 8:32 am
No difference now than with Shell and Bed and Breakfast,
…………
Really?
7-5 record in December?
In playoff hunt, in December?
Now firmly lift your right hand about the level of your face, and slap yourself just hard enough to raise your IQ a few points.
December 10th, 2011 at 4:34 pm
The Tricky Question is When HAVE the Raiders been at Full Strength this year?
December 10th, 2011 at 4:37 pm
Raiders for life Says:
December 10th, 2011 at 2:46 pm
frustrated, pissed off, nervous, fired up, yelling at tv, broken tv, loss of Al, play calling, penalties, bone head players at times, great players at times…
It’s fkn hard to be a RAIDERS fan sometimes.
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Best Raider season since 2002, the year we went to the Super Bowl. Maybe it’s hard for you to be a Raider fan because you’re too stupid to realize that?
December 10th, 2011 at 4:37 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
December 10th, 2011 at 1:30 pm
I feel like a guru. Did i call it or what? Oakland is the last place people want to live (yes, I know, some of you live in squalor because you have no choice) and the last place teams want to play. Raiders are being told by the NFL that their best bet is to beg the 49ers to let them in their new state of the art stadium, A’s are packing for SJ, and the Warriors are craving to set up camp near the Giants stadium in SF.
What’s funny was Armchair, in his cranium challenged way, went on and on how Oakland was the only place with 3 sports. Now it turns out Oakland will have zero sports.
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Since almost half a million people live in Oakland your statement that no one wants to live in Oakland is ridiculous.
The issue with the sports teams has to do with the politicians not the town, the people or the infrastructure. And you can start with Jerry Brown, who REALLY did not care a whiff whether Oakland had sports teams or not. 8 years of Brown shooed the sports teams to look elsewhere. Well, guess what, other municipalities do want teams, so there you have some competition. To me what is remarkable is a city the size of San Francisco does not have an indoor arena. Unless you think the Cow Palace is viable. But before you have an arena you must have a team, so there go the Warriors.
Since you personally live in Sacto, every time we fart here in the Bay Area, you smell it. Sucks to be you. I’d rather be in Oakland.
December 10th, 2011 at 4:42 pm
Seymour that wasn’t me who typed that. I’m a huge supporter of Oakland, hope they keep all 3 teams.
December 10th, 2011 at 4:43 pm
Seymour, that same guy who used to be “richochet” is posting under my name now. Figured it out pretty easily, just by the writing style. You know who I am and where I stand on about everything.
December 10th, 2011 at 4:44 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
December 10th, 2011 at 4:21 pm
It would be sad to see the A’s leave for the Silicon Valley. It’s like a Hell’s Angel going to the Sex and The City premiere.
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The only viable option for the A’s right now is for Wolff and Fisher to sell. Wolff has cost Fisher at least a $100mm in franchise value and now the team is starting to hemorrhage money. At the winter meetings the A’s hotel suite is like a pathetic Saturday morning garage sale. The A’s are not moving to San Jose anytime soon, the franchise is in complete disarray, and they are just spinning around making themselves dizzy. And if Wolff, Fisher and Beane think all the SF Giant fans in the South Bay are suddenly going to turn around and become instant A’s fans, then maybe the Davis clan can move their team to Westminster Colorado and all those Bronco fans will instantly become Raider fans. Yeah, sure…
December 10th, 2011 at 4:46 pm
That WAS me who made the Hells Angel joke, btw. And, good points in your response.
December 10th, 2011 at 4:46 pm
Poor Reeks of sheeit. Dude is broken. It’s not even fun to rub his face in it like a bad puppy that’s too stupid to housebreak anymore.
December 10th, 2011 at 4:47 pm
Hopin for a game tomorrow like the Gradkowski game in Pittsburgh.
Bush and the Oline could have a big day tomorrow. Heck so could the d-line.
If the d can get to Rodgers, rough him up,if Wimbley has a monster game tomorrow, could be fun.
or it could be a cold day at Lambeau.
Here’s hopin for a great game tomorrow.
Go Raiders!!
December 10th, 2011 at 5:05 pm
Tebow raves on his improved passing…against the Vikes patch work secondary.
I could’ve caught passes against those bums and blown coverage.
Tebow is gonna get handed his azz against Chitown…
December 10th, 2011 at 5:18 pm
if moore and ford are running without pain, why the heck are they not playing? Guess they have the mcfragiles….
December 10th, 2011 at 5:32 pm
Raiders need to seek balance. Mentally they either get flat or too hyper.
They need to get that warrior focus man. Bend time…
December 10th, 2011 at 5:33 pm
Best Raider season since 2002, the year we went to the Super Bowl. Maybe it’s hard for you to be a Raider fan because you’re too stupid to realize that?
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Let’s get one thing straight sully you pencil dk fck. I don’t read or reply to your comments so don’t reply to mine.
December 10th, 2011 at 5:40 pm
Agree 516.
Fudge Packers have been winning because, even as they say, they are ‘confident’
December 10th, 2011 at 5:43 pm
I don’t understand how Moore and Ford are not active for Sunday? It’s two days away. Two days after they’re running around under ‘watchful eyes’
If they’re not ready, then don’t put them in. We have nothing to lose in that case. But, on the other hand you lose two possible game-changing weapons.
I feel stupid, because I honestly thought Hue was holding these guys out to beat GB and make a run deep in the playoffs. That’s still a possibility, but damn….
December 10th, 2011 at 5:52 pm
Ryan Braun..busted.
December 10th, 2011 at 5:53 pm
Good thing the NFL does sketchy testing.
December 10th, 2011 at 6:12 pm
GoodOle00 Says:
December 10th, 2011 at 5:05 pm
Tebow raves on his improved passing…against the Vikes patch work secondary.
I could’ve caught passes against those bums and blown coverage.
Tebow is gonna get handed his azz against Chitown…
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Tebow is developing. That is the worst thing that could have happened to us. That being said, Chicago has a Super Bowl caliber defense. Their corners are big and physical. They get an excellent pass rush with Peppers and co. And if Tebow decides to take off, Urlacher and Briggs are waiting. Should be a good matchup.
December 10th, 2011 at 6:26 pm
HEY HUE, GO PICK UP STERLING MO0RE, STAT.
Erase your earlier mistake.
We can only hope Buffalo cuts HAGEN so we can erase anotehr Jackson dumb move (AND DUMP 56 year old MANZAHHDAHH at teh same time).
FROM PFT:
Patriots continue to churn bottom of roster
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on December 10, 2011, 6:19 PM EST
New England Patriots v Chicago Bears Getty Images
Bill Belichick continues to search for a defense he can trust.
The team made a handful of moves on Saturday, once again shaking up the bottom of their roster. The team placed defensive lineman Jermaine Cunningham on injured reserve and signed Eric Moore. The team also waived safety Sterling Moore and promoted safety Malcolm Williams from the practice squad.
December 10th, 2011 at 6:31 pm
Didnt the pats use sterling moore as a safety? I thought he was a CB
December 10th, 2011 at 6:32 pm
518. EXACTLY
Raiders need to KNOW they can beat anyone. They’ve got the talent even dinged up they can beat Green Bay.
ANY GIVEN SUNDAY
December 10th, 2011 at 6:33 pm
They talk about Tebow magic. They need to be talking about Silver and Black magic…
December 10th, 2011 at 6:33 pm
Theres a reason Sterling isn’t on a team.
December 10th, 2011 at 6:39 pm
The tebow trains stops sunday i just cant see the bears D keeping tebow in the game. But kind of sketchy with caleb hanie and if it wasnt for christian ponder piss poor int at the last minute denver would have lost
December 10th, 2011 at 6:39 pm
Did I really just pick Oakland on my football poll? I guess I just dont learn.
Raiders-27 Packers-23
December 10th, 2011 at 6:39 pm
CorkOnTheNFL Current Raiders running backs coach Kelly Skipper, former Raiders assistant coach Jim McElwain reportedly finalists for Fresno St. top spot.
about 3 hours ago
December 10th, 2011 at 6:41 pm
I wouldn’t be offended if Urlacher shoves telbow’s head up elway’s azz.
December 10th, 2011 at 6:42 pm
Maybe Skipper can teach Fresno’s backs how pass protect
December 10th, 2011 at 6:45 pm
BobMcGinn Carson Palmer’s adjustment woes with #Raiders obviously not all his fault. One scout ripped Heyward-Bey, other WRs for imprecise routes.
About 22 hours ago
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*Note* McGinn is a Packer beat writer….
December 10th, 2011 at 6:54 pm
Tim Skipper is an assistant coach at FSU. Hmmmmm.
December 10th, 2011 at 6:55 pm
BobMcGinn #Raiders DT Richard Seymour did very little in his two games for NE vs. #Packers. He faces T.J. Lang Sun. If motivated, RS still beastly.
about 22 hours ago
BobMcGinn #Raiders 11 h-coaches after Madden all offensive guys. Why? Because Al Davis always considered himself the d-coordinator. Just way it was.
about 22 hours ago
BobMcGinn The speed inactive for #Raiders Sun. boggles mind. Imagine J. Ford, D. Moore, D. McFadden and T. Jones in a 4 by 100 relay. Never beat ‘em.
about 22 hours ago
BobMcGinn DC Chuck Bresnahan in 2nd tour with #Raiders. Why? He actually was able to tolerate the at-all-hours calls from Mr. Davis. They got along.
about 22 hours ago
BobMcGinn #Packers are 33-8 since mid-2009. In 33 W’s, their turnover differential is plus-52. In the eight L’s, their turn-differential is minus-8.
about 20 hours ago
BobMcGinn The #Packers have outscored foes 241-84 in third quarters of 32 games since start of 2010. Blowing people out in 3rd their familiar pattern.
about 20 hours ago
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Some perspective from the enemy for ya….
December 10th, 2011 at 7:18 pm
I’d like to see #99 have a big game. Put some grass stains on Rodgers jersey.
December 10th, 2011 at 7:48 pm
Trade DMAC!
December 10th, 2011 at 8:15 pm
http://www.freepriesttjnow.org
just do it
December 10th, 2011 at 8:18 pm
if oakland can lay on some ass tomorrow, we gonna be in for a good game. all they got to be is hella lay some ass.
December 10th, 2011 at 8:32 pm
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Tebow is developing. That is the worst thing that could have happened to us. That being said, Chicago has a Super Bowl caliber defense. Their corners are big and physical. They get an excellent pass rush with Peppers and co. And if Tebow decides to take off, Urlacher and Briggs are waiting. Should be a good matchup.
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And yet even Carson Palmer and Co. put up 25 pts. on ‘em and it should have been MUCH MORE.
December 10th, 2011 at 8:34 pm
909RaiderLifer Says:
December 10th, 2011 at 6:55 pm
BobMcGinn #Raiders DT Richard Seymour did very little in his two games for NE vs. #Packers. He faces T.J. Lang Sun. If motivated, RS still beastly.
about 22 hours ago
BobMcGinn #Raiders 11 h-coaches after Madden all offensive guys. Why? Because Al Davis always considered himself the d-coordinator. Just way it was.
about 22 hours ago
BobMcGinn The speed inactive for #Raiders Sun. boggles mind. Imagine J. Ford, D. Moore, D. McFadden and T. Jones in a 4 by 100 relay. Never beat ‘em.
about 22 hours ago
BobMcGinn DC Chuck Bresnahan in 2nd tour with #Raiders. Why? He actually was able to tolerate the at-all-hours calls from Mr. Davis. They got along.
about 22 hours ago
BobMcGinn #Packers are 33-8 since mid-2009. In 33 W’s, their turnover differential is plus-52. In the eight L’s, their turn-differential is minus-8.
about 20 hours ago
BobMcGinn The #Packers have outscored foes 241-84 in third quarters of 32 games since start of 2010. Blowing people out in 3rd their familiar pattern.
about 20 hours ago
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Some perspective from the enemy for ya….
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BobMcGinn Bob McGinn
Carson Palmer’s adjustment woes with #Raiders obviously not all his fault. One scout ripped Heyward-Bey, other WRs for imprecise routes.
December 10th, 2011 at 8:36 pm
515.olinesux Says:
December 10th, 2011 at 5:18 pm
if moore and ford are running without pain, why the heck are they not playing? Guess they have the mcfragiles….
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Yeah. What’s the deal with that?
Does Hue realize that in this league..this sport…that guys get injured sometimes and they HAVE TO PLAY HURT on occasion?
This doesn’t seem to jive with the “this is the year” mantra Hue was spouting.
December 10th, 2011 at 8:43 pm
Is it at all possible that Hue is holding these guys out so that IF Raiders don’t make playoffs he can use the injuries as the excuse (without saying it himself of course)?
He put so much on the line with the Palmer deal and the expectations were that he was coming in and taking the Raiders to the next step THIS YEAR. Everybody said it. Hue said it himself.
Hey, I’m just throwing it out there. I don’t know Hue personally. He seems like a real good guy and a loyal “Raider”. Would he be the type to be looking out for himself more than anything?
If he fails to bring Raiders to playoffs he’s failed…period; except for the fact of having all those key injuries.
Could Hue possibly feel Raiders aren’t good enuff to do it even with DMAC et al.?
Like I said, just throwin’ it out there.
December 10th, 2011 at 8:48 pm
If ford and moore are able to run on the field then hell they should play everytime they catch the ball jus have em run out of bounds or something. There is no time to wait and win we need to win NOW! Ford and more should suck it up for the biggest game of the year. And the foot injury for DMC sheesh that must be one hell of an injury
December 10th, 2011 at 8:51 pm
Gerard Says:
December 10th, 2011 at 8:43 pm
Is it at all possible that Hue is holding these guys out so that IF Raiders don’t make playoffs he can use the injuries as the excuse (without saying it himself of course)?
He put so much on the line with the Palmer deal and the expectations were that he was coming in and taking the Raiders to the next step THIS YEAR. Everybody said it. Hue said it himself.
Hey, I’m just throwing it out there. I don’t know Hue personally. He seems like a real good guy and a loyal “Raider”. Would he be the type to be looking out for himself more than anything?
If he fails to bring Raiders to playoffs he’s failed…period; except for the fact of having all those key injuries.
Could Hue possibly feel Raiders aren’t good enuff to do it even with DMAC et al.?
Like I said, just throwin’ it out there.
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Well first you should ask yourself, how many games that we lost would we have won if Dmac, et al. were available? Would they have made a difference?
If so, then wouldn’t it make sense for Hue to just play them because they give us the best shot at winning?
December 10th, 2011 at 8:51 pm
And can we atleast get a dose of terrell pryor and see what he is made of? Have some special packages for him wildcat maybe…some options
December 10th, 2011 at 9:05 pm
With Sterling Moore released…maybe we should get him back…can he not go back to the practice squad? Well, I think he did pretty good here, being undrafted and stuff…
December 10th, 2011 at 9:14 pm
Gona be a long day for Satele.
December 10th, 2011 at 9:17 pm
I personally think we may have won that Miami game with DMAC in there.
I thought the key to the loss was right off the bat the inability to run the ball. It forced third and longs that Miami was ready for. 3 and outs led to the D being out there too long, which led to our offense being out there too little; and when they were out there they had to throw it cuz Bush was going nowhere, AND they had to try and catch up. Just my opinion from what I observed.
I guess what I mean is does Hue feel the same way? Does Hue think DMAC (and the other injured guys) would’ve made a difference?
The way it stands now, how can anyone blame Hue for us not making it with all these injuries?
December 10th, 2011 at 9:25 pm
535. Packers starting RG is OUT. Rookie replacing him.
GB ultra thin at LB in a 3-4 with Hawk a game time
Some more prespective
December 10th, 2011 at 9:33 pm
I swear, we need to put Wiz at C, Hyer at LG and Manase at FB.
December 10th, 2011 at 9:33 pm
547. Theres a reason Sterlings not on a team.
December 10th, 2011 at 9:34 pm
No doubt in my mind there is no way we are 7-5 with Kyle Boller in there. No way. So Hue was going for it now; this year. But…with all these injuries who can possibly blame Hue for Raiders not going where he said they were?
Now if we have Palmer, DMAC, Moore, Ford, etc. etc. how could anybody NOT put alot of the blame on Hue? With all those horses on offense and u still fall short? To Tebow?
December 10th, 2011 at 9:41 pm
553. Voice of reason
December 10th, 2011 at 9:41 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
December 10th, 2011 at 7:48 pm
Trade DMAC!
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Get a grip pal….
December 10th, 2011 at 9:50 pm
I recall a Saturday Night earlier in the season when the University of Spoiled Children was playing ASU. I engaged someone in some good natured banter about Matt Barkley’s leadership credentials.
That night RG III, the 2011 Heisman Trophy Winner was putting on an early season [erformance much like those he consistently has put up all season long, no matter the competition. He has overcome as much adversity of any player in the Heisman Trophy conversation.
At the time I (c0rrectly) annointed him the best QB in the land and I would take him over any play on the collegiate football landscape. . .
I rest my case. . .
I rest my case
December 10th, 2011 at 9:53 pm
I have a funbny feeling the Raiders will be loose, playing the game like kids, having fun & ending teh quest for perfectfion
Raiders 34 Pack 24
December 10th, 2011 at 10:00 pm
Gerard, Hue wants to win. I am sure the McClain incident plus the injuries caught up with us in Miami. Green Bay does seem banged up, too. The 1st quarter is going to tell us everything. If we come out flat, look for a repeat of the Miami game. If we can hang with them early, and the D looks alive, we can win!
December 10th, 2011 at 10:00 pm
oakland 31
pack 21
December 10th, 2011 at 10:06 pm
In order to win this game Bush must have a great game and control the clock. We Must score TDs No Jano. The front 4 must have the game of their lives because we can’t afford to blitz too often. If all this comes past we can win but if not its gona be a blowout.
December 10th, 2011 at 10:08 pm
HJ is intentionally holding the 3 most explosive offensive players out to prevent the team from winning.Just when you think you’ve read some of the most ignorant comments that could possibly be made,a more ridiculous one appears.
December 10th, 2011 at 10:11 pm
Raiders should be 9-3 but we blew the Buff an Den game so if we miss the playoffs u can look at those 2 games
December 10th, 2011 at 10:18 pm
Are we gonna make the playoffs lefty
December 10th, 2011 at 10:20 pm
on defense henderson mans up and plays injured but moore ford and dmc will be drinking soy lattes in parkas at gb
December 10th, 2011 at 10:21 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
December 10th, 2011 at 10:11 pm
Raiders should be 9-3 but we blew the Buff an Den game so if we miss the playoffs u can look at those 2 games
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Said the same thing myself this week.
December 10th, 2011 at 10:22 pm
Maybe.We will probably be 10-6 .A lot can and will happen between now and the end of the season.But the reality is finishing 10-6 should be considered a good season.
December 10th, 2011 at 10:24 pm
Listen people, when Hue decides to release the shock and awe, no team in the NFL can touch us. We will be as explosive as a daisy cutter. Shock and awe baby. Release the the thunder. The time will be at Hues’ own choosing, and when he does, look out. Shock and awe.
December 10th, 2011 at 10:27 pm
The det game is gonna be a tough one too
December 10th, 2011 at 10:27 pm
McFadden,Ford,and Moore are speed guys.If an injury affects their ability to use that speed,they aren’t the same player.Henderson is a space eater in the middle of the line.Asore knee doesn’t impact him from doing what he does.You guys complain because players are missing time due to injuries,but i’d be willing to bet you’ve called in sick after partying to hard the night before.Most of the time players are held out by the medical staff,it isn’t their choice.
December 10th, 2011 at 10:28 pm
Detroit is overrated.SD will be a tougher game.So will KC.
December 10th, 2011 at 10:33 pm
BobMcGinn The #Packers have outscored foes 241-84 in third quarters of 32 games since start of 2010. Blowing people out in 3rd their familiar pattern.
about 20 hours ago
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That sounds to me like good half time adjustment.
Not just a bunch of ass gas.
December 10th, 2011 at 10:34 pm
I think det is pretty good on O their D lacks corners but they are gonna be a tough out.
December 10th, 2011 at 10:38 pm
The fact is before the season started if someone said we will be 10-6 or even 9-7 and fought for a playoff spot but just missed,99% of Raider fans would have said it was a good year-one we can certainly build upon.While I like everyone else wants to go to the playoffs and win another title,just being relevant again is a huge step in the right direction.
December 10th, 2011 at 10:42 pm
Tebow is gonna go down hard against bears peppers is not gonna bite on the run fake and briggs an urlacher will be waiting bad recipe for tebow
December 10th, 2011 at 10:42 pm
Detroit has no running game and their QB is beat up.Teams have had success running against them,especially up the gut.They are also a young team,and young teams have more difficulty on the road than at home.
December 10th, 2011 at 10:44 pm
we blew the Denver and Buffalo games because a lot of our defensive players are bad. There’s no excuse for those games. We need better players.
9-7 would be an improvement.
8-8 would be the same as last year.
10-6 ain’t happening.
December 10th, 2011 at 10:45 pm
East-I’d like to see that happen,but that has been said every week and it hasn’t happened yet.
December 10th, 2011 at 10:50 pm
When suh gets back and wouldn’t u knw it against us with fairley and vanden bosh they r stout up front and get pressure without blitzing
December 10th, 2011 at 10:51 pm
10-6 ain’t happening.
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You can make that statement but you don’t know for sure it won’t happen,right alias!
December 10th, 2011 at 10:54 pm
East,they get pressure,but I believe teams were having success running right at them.That was the formula I kept hearing-go right at them.
December 10th, 2011 at 11:00 pm
imo the det game is toughest one left. Its gonna be payback time in Kc and it seems we know how to defend Sd so if we beat det 10-6 here we come. Just can’t see us beating GB not at full strength.
December 10th, 2011 at 11:03 pm
Somebodys been posting as me and it aint me. I dont write that kind of garbage. My posts are always positive about the Raiders and if they lose, still positive, so any posts that are negative are not mine, no way.
December 10th, 2011 at 11:05 pm
It is too bad we are missing the 3 big play players we are missing.It would be a good game with them because our team is built a lot like the Packers are-big play offense with mediocre defense.
December 10th, 2011 at 11:08 pm
The reason I say tebow is in trouble this weekend is because bears d is very discipline and there is no need to rush the passer cuz he barely passes and when magahee gets the ball urlacher will be waiting.
December 10th, 2011 at 11:09 pm
Thanks for the conversation East.Maybe we can do it again sometime before alias comes knocking.
December 10th, 2011 at 11:11 pm
You may be right about Denver’s offense having problems scoring,but will Chicago be able to put points on the board?
December 10th, 2011 at 11:13 pm
Peace out lefty
December 10th, 2011 at 11:16 pm
No way KC beats the Jets. Ryan hangs onto his job with this game.
Bears will beat Denver because they are the tougher team.
SD is just that bad and will lose to the Bills.
And Oakland will hang on to hand the Pack loss number one.
December 10th, 2011 at 11:18 pm
Anybody think the Raidahs can beat the pack? I do.
Keys to victory = score more points than them.
December 10th, 2011 at 11:21 pm
Hope some Packer fans are reading this cuz you guessed it, Raiders goin into Lambo Field and doin a woopin on ya’ll. Say it. Raiders gonna eat some cheese.
December 10th, 2011 at 11:31 pm
It would take the game of our lives for us to beat the pack without our playmakers
December 10th, 2011 at 11:33 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
December 10th, 2011 at 11:31 pm
It would take the game of our lives for us to beat the pack without our playmakers
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No doubt, but will happen.
December 10th, 2011 at 11:37 pm
Yo Steve,am I missing something? Saturday a problem for ya?Maybe youre a Seventh Day Adventist,that would explain why you have nothing to write on Saturday,or maybe you hit a wall,cant think of something interesting?Cmon,man,gametime is 14 hrs/change away,2nd week in a row,stale posts!I mean,Mr/sully/halverson,alex,heck,he/they could fire us up,whatever
December 10th, 2011 at 11:42 pm
First time poster guys. Excited about the game. No fcking way the pack will beat the Raiders. Oakland is gonna beat their asses till they shrivel and theres nothin left but the anus.
Even if it is bullschit Raiders had to go to Wisconson after a long round tripper to Miami, I’ll put my bucks on Oakland.
December 10th, 2011 at 11:45 pm
Hope so Chowder
December 11th, 2011 at 12:45 am
A for enthusiasm Granderson.
Less than an A for realism
Packers 30 Raiders 20
December 11th, 2011 at 1:39 am
Nero5150 Says:
December 10th, 2011 at 10:44 pm
we blew the Denver and Buffalo games because a lot of our defensive players are bad. There’s no excuse for those games. We need better players.
9-7 would be an improvement.
8-8 would be the same as last year.
10-6 ain’t happening.
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Are they bad, or does the team lack the belief, or a lack a “transformational” type character that brings out the best in other players?
Tebow was that…as the belief grew…another team was exposed and began to fade , thus revealing its “true character”
thats how it is playing out…but that can change, if a team that has had enough, is backed into a corner, and busts open a can of whoop a”% this sunday
December 11th, 2011 at 1:55 am
Sooooo excited for a shot at some redemeption tmrw….. Play hard, play smart, pound the fckn rock.. Protect palmer…the return of louis murph, watch this space
December 11th, 2011 at 3:29 am
No to Mr.Skipper leaving
A bird in the hand is worth two in a Bush
Go Raiders!!!!
December 11th, 2011 at 5:27 am
The Defensive front 4 must get to Rodgers …all day…
Offense needs long slow drives to keep our defense fresh….
Bush needs to have a big day … Palmer needs to set them up them pick his spots and take a shot downfield…
The Key will be the front 4… and we need some Luck…
Beat the Cheeseheads ….Just Win!
December 11th, 2011 at 5:28 am
And keep the Damn Penalties Down… For crying out loud…
December 11th, 2011 at 6:00 am
[...] Schilens – Oakland Raiders – Wide Receiver Steve Corkran of the Contra Costa Times (click here for the article) is reporting [...]
December 11th, 2011 at 6:31 am
Weather today in Greenbay…. 40 degrees and partly cloudy
A heat wave …. Thank you Weather Gods and Al Davis..
December 11th, 2011 at 6:40 am
I agree Fingers. This is not a team you want to go in reverse with stupid penalties. You have to stay away from the 3rd and longs and be quick on the point of attack…keep their D on their heels. We gotta attack the middle of the field with Hawk not 100% and a rookie filling in for Bishop.
I’m not really worried about the O even after the sputtering in Miami. The D and DB’s will have to have a damn near perfect game, i’m more concerned with this group. They need to create a few turnovers and stop some freakin drives!
December 11th, 2011 at 6:47 am
Deja… Good take…. I wanna see how Palmer rebounds after last week…. Any teams beatable and the Raiders have won games like these in the past…they need to go for it…
Keep the Defense fresh by converting on 3rd downs….
Gonna be an interesting game.. And we should be able to tell right away if they came to play ball..
December 11th, 2011 at 7:03 am
I agree 100% Fingers! I think Palmer will do well as long as the Oline doesn’t have mental breakdowns and missed assignments. Palmer can only do so much, the guys around him need to step it up and play as a team! I bet you see a different team than last week on both sides of the ball. I think we needed that embarrassing game.
December 11th, 2011 at 7:11 am
My only concern is, did they have enough time to come up with a solid gameplan?
A very short week flying from the east coast and then right back to GB.
I just want to see an entertaining game, more passion and desire. Play like a champion, a man. Don’t let the guy in front of you beat you.
I think we win the final 3 games for sure. Detroit is not the same team they were the 1st 5 games and their down to 2nd string db’s.
December 11th, 2011 at 7:17 am
Gotta try and win out…. And must win 3 outta these last 4….
Our DB’s need to play the recievers close and our front 4 need to get to Rodgers fast…
December 11th, 2011 at 7:22 am
Agreed! Can’t give those wr’s a 10 yard cushion, that will make it too easy for Buck Rodgers and co. Hope the front four got some rest last night.
December 11th, 2011 at 7:24 am
Fingers,
How do you think Barnes will do on C. Mathews? That’s a tough task for any lineman. I hope they would at least have a Rb help chip at him.
December 11th, 2011 at 7:50 am
Matthews is a beast…. Hard to tell… We’re gonna know real quick…this is gonna be a test for our OLine…
December 11th, 2011 at 7:51 am
Not real impressed with Bushs blocking… If he blocks today he better not whiff again
December 11th, 2011 at 8:15 am
Just once I would like to wake up to a new Raiders story on Sunday morning…
December 11th, 2011 at 8:30 am
Going to be a tough game. Carson does have experience against them so thats good.
December 11th, 2011 at 8:39 am
In regards to Hue holding out the metatarsal triplets D. Moore, Ford and DMAC.
I think Hue already put this game in the L column and putting all his money down on the Bronco’s losing over the next couple weeks. He probably figures we will pull out a couple the next few weeks and wants to finish strong against our division and be healthy going into the playoffs.
Seems risky. I have been betting against the Broncos every week.
December 11th, 2011 at 8:55 am
BewareofRaiders Says:
December 11th, 2011 at 8:30 am
Going to be a tough game. Carson does have experience against them so thats good.
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Corkran doesn’t get up till noon. He stays out late partying at the strip club on most nights.
December 11th, 2011 at 8:55 am
Mathews vs. Bush = bad news
December 11th, 2011 at 8:56 am
Raiders only hope today is to score 40-50 points.
December 11th, 2011 at 8:57 am
Corkran doesn’t get up till noon. He stays out late partying at the strip club on most nights.
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Haha
December 11th, 2011 at 9:08 am
Already watched one of my sporting loves win today,hope to see the other win tonight.
December 11th, 2011 at 9:48 am
Raiders …….. just Win ……… Beat the Peckers …
December 11th, 2011 at 9:55 am
Thankfully down here in sd the chokers have been blacked out so the Raiders are on tv…
December 11th, 2011 at 9:59 am
JUST WIN BABY!!!
December 11th, 2011 at 10:02 am
Go Raiders!
December 11th, 2011 at 10:03 am
Go Chicago! (Tired of hearing this Teabow crap)
December 11th, 2011 at 10:10 am
Hey guys the games being blacked out where im at, anyone know a link
December 11th, 2011 at 10:25 am
Que, try first row sports. It always works for me.
December 11th, 2011 at 10:36 am
wow we are very lucky it is not snowing and only in the thirties there. We have a shot.
December 11th, 2011 at 10:36 am
You wont find a bigger Bears fan than me today. Go Caleb.
December 11th, 2011 at 10:37 am
Hue, enjoy your first HC job this will be your last yr…You are a Major disappointment..I only wish that Al Davis would have hired Jim Harbaugh..Sad.
December 11th, 2011 at 10:38 am
Its imperative Chi beats Den and then anything we get in GB will be gravy.
December 11th, 2011 at 10:43 am
Riraider- You are entitled to your opinion but you are not fit to wear Raider in your username spewing that negative bummcrap on gameday.
December 11th, 2011 at 10:44 am
Fire the Black Bobo..He is a ingrate Fool.
December 11th, 2011 at 10:45 am
aig-raiders Says:
December 11th, 2011 at 10:36 am
You wont find a bigger Bears fan than me today. Go Caleb.
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Gotcha. Its just to bad we put ourselves in this position. Hopefully denver loses big.
December 11th, 2011 at 10:45 am
Stayinblack: S_uck my C_cok ..I’ve been a fan long before ur Dad left his man juice on ur smelley mothers C_unt
December 11th, 2011 at 10:46 am
StayinBlack: meet on east 14th st near 150th & tell me that …I F_ucking dare YOU
December 11th, 2011 at 10:49 am
Stayinblack: screen name?..You tried the being a White man?…
December 11th, 2011 at 10:50 am
Riraider is a occupy Walls Street fag.
Go squat in the park and wait for a hand out.
December 11th, 2011 at 10:52 am
Ray,
I’ll be at the Hilton, in the theater.
White #55 jersey, I can hang out by the entrance around 12:45-1 if you want.
Going to be a lot of Packers fans there.
December 11th, 2011 at 10:52 am
Gotcha. Its just to bad we put ourselves in this position. Hopefully denver loses big.
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Yeah Denver is the key game and yes it is sad and incredible at the same time.
Sad – we have to root for another team to help us.
Incredible – that Tebow keeps on winning. SMH
December 11th, 2011 at 10:52 am
DonManoukiansNeighbor Must be his Butt buddy..Remember to put a cap on it when the juice oooze’s out of ur A_sshole
December 11th, 2011 at 10:53 am
Most important game today is not the Raider game, but the Bears/Broncos game:
Bear down, Chicago Bears, make every play clear the way to victory;
Bear down, Chicago Bears, put up a fight with a might so fearlessly.
We’ll never forget the way you thrilled the nation with your T-formation.
Bear down, Chicago Bears, and let them know why you’re wearing the crown.
You’re the pride and joy of Illinois, Chicago Bears, bear down.
December 11th, 2011 at 10:53 am
JFB…who you betting on today?
December 11th, 2011 at 10:55 am
Texans and Saints in the morning
Upset special…..Arizona!!
December 11th, 2011 at 10:55 am
fk, chi-den is my out-of market nationally televised game today. nfl is really pushing this teblow nonsense. if denver wins & oakland loses, i’ll have to swear off of any nfl coverage.
expect lots of questionable calls against oakland today & for denver to have very few, all of which will come at downs & distances that won’t have any real effect on the game.
December 11th, 2011 at 10:55 am
Albert Bigelow Paine, thanks sir . I have my finger crossed in 10 minutes it ll show. Im outside the country and its blacked out on my subscription. Thanks again and lets hope our raiders can make history today again. Thanks Al Paine
December 11th, 2011 at 10:58 am
really, as big as this game is, it’s probably the least important of the remaining games. if oaklanh HAS to lose one, this is the one
December 11th, 2011 at 10:58 am
Code #ff000000
December 11th, 2011 at 10:59 am
Riraider pregame ritual.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-yZFbzaWbg
December 11th, 2011 at 11:06 am
DonManoukiansNeighbor: Your wife was here last night made her CUM so bad she went into convulsions..She said you aren’t long or thick enough for her..I brought my 6 other friends too
December 11th, 2011 at 11:10 am
Riraider….What are you 12? Seriously? Is that all you got? You’re not even worth messing with. You haven’t had Pu$$y since pu$$y had you. Go play with your hot wheels dumb a$$.
December 11th, 2011 at 11:14 am
Where is the moderator here? How can they let Riraider be on here? Go away, low life!
December 11th, 2011 at 11:16 am
Need a Tennessee and Cincy loss today. Go Houston and go New Orleans!
December 11th, 2011 at 11:16 am
Big day from DHB today.
I’m thinking career-highs type big game
December 11th, 2011 at 11:17 am
Riraider and Dvrick must be brothers. This is what happens when Beeecham has a children with MR.
December 11th, 2011 at 11:20 am
fire his Spear chucker A_ss..Hue you’re GONE B_itch
December 11th, 2011 at 11:22 am
Beach Says: Aww sorry C_ock sucker, you have man juice sprouting from your Jiz cup..LOL..Keep the knee pads with these Castro puppies on here..Raider fans?..LOL..You gays are Niner fans still in the closet..LOL
December 11th, 2011 at 11:23 am
They switched the game to Raiders in NW Ohio. Go RAIDDDDDDDDDDERS!!!!!
December 11th, 2011 at 11:24 am
Come out Niner fans on here..Really now, you are in NO way Raider fans..
December 11th, 2011 at 11:30 am
What a douchebag
December 11th, 2011 at 11:30 am
Ditto
December 11th, 2011 at 11:32 am
For troll lovers and troll haters everywhere.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86siAUU8Jlo
I thank my kids for making me aware of this…lol
December 11th, 2011 at 11:32 am
Aww touched a Niner nerve
December 11th, 2011 at 11:32 am
Riraider = the lowest level of trolldom.
December 11th, 2011 at 11:33 am
Let me rephrase that
Riraider is a racist douchebag, glad you agree
December 11th, 2011 at 11:34 am
Love it..LOL
December 11th, 2011 at 11:37 am
Bengals might want to consider Gradkowski to spark the offense.
December 11th, 2011 at 11:38 am
Keep responding, attention getter!!..LOL
December 11th, 2011 at 11:43 am
OOPS..THOUGHT THIS WAS FOOTBALL BLOG.
December 11th, 2011 at 11:48 am
It is, but for some reason fans can’t be honest & real about their team/Raiders who have flaws..Everyone on ere is in real denial about the team coach & players..Sad..winning cures all things except denial..You don’t see this from the Niner blogs..Raiders have let this season pass them by & Hue is a BIG part of that.
December 11th, 2011 at 11:49 am
Might see Palmer light up that Packer Secondary…. Another good test for the Oline and the Defensive front 4…gotta stay allover Rodgers…
Go Raiders….. Just win…
December 11th, 2011 at 11:50 am
Tate on Houston not doing the Raiders any favors.
December 11th, 2011 at 11:53 am
This is a football blog. It’s just that sometimes it gets hijacked by political trolls, racist trolls, niner trolls, basketball trolls, psychopath trolls, sociopath trolls, and just plain old simple trolls. Sad, but true.
Anyway, looks like AJ Hawk has a bum calf but he is still playing. Maybe he won’t be as mobile. It will be very tough to pull off a win, but nothing is impossible, and more incredible upsets have happened in the past.
GO RAIDERS!
December 11th, 2011 at 11:54 am
So AJ being hurt translates to a Raider win?..How idiotic are U Fool?..
December 11th, 2011 at 11:55 am
Stop you delusional Pr_icks ..You guys have to be the Dumbest raider bloggers in captivity.
December 11th, 2011 at 12:03 pm
39 degrees in Greenbay right now…. Cold won’t be a factor …
December 11th, 2011 at 12:04 pm
Fingers: Thanks Robert Gonzalez..
December 11th, 2011 at 12:04 pm
That’s not what I said Ri. Two different points all together. First sentence was just stating a fact and a hopeful scenario where he won’t be as mobile. Second sentence was just a thought. The two are not related. Just share the same paragraph.
And for the record, aside from all the talk about Palmer being familiar with the GB D, I’ve been saying this whole week that this will be a very tough game and most likely a L, but I do hope for a W. Realisticallly though, to pull off that W will be very very tough.
And no need for the name calling dude. That’s just childish, and if you are doing it to get a reaction or to instigate an argument, the one that comes out looking like bad is you. But you probably not care, and/or not see it. therefore, not another response from me.
GO RAIDERS!
December 11th, 2011 at 12:06 pm
Titans Dee ballin
Brees lookin confuse
December 11th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
Morning fam,
Pumped for the game , stomp these cheesenuts out early… Cant say me old heart is pumping normal.
December 11th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
The only way we get in the playoffs is winning the division. Cincy is going to beat Houston today, unfortunately.
December 11th, 2011 at 12:09 pm
Blackmamba:..LOL..Damn they let you out of Napa already?
December 11th, 2011 at 12:10 pm
It pisses me off that we lose to the dolphins and i am hear watching the eagles game and the dolphins playing like sh’t. We better come out the gates mad as hell gainst the packers because that is damn right embarrassing
December 11th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
Real
December 11th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
Lol little flees are loose …. Fly along your jim carrey jokes blow.
December 11th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
Why is the time on the blog off by an hour? And where are our updates before the game? Someone is slacking at IBA…
December 11th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
The raiders aren’t going got the Playoffs fools..Stop getting ur Johnson’s up..They lost that by losing to Den & KC at home..Now go blow each other & drink the protein..
December 11th, 2011 at 12:13 pm
Gonna be a housefull of Raiders here…..pumped and ready…
Just Win….
December 11th, 2011 at 12:15 pm
Fingers: Use them all when giving your friends a Prostate exam..LOL
December 11th, 2011 at 12:15 pm
AlbertBreer … Packers TE Jermichael Finley told me that they’ll be targeting Raiders S Mike Mitchell in the passing game, having seen it on tape …
about 1 hour ago
Retweeted by Vitorrio Tafur
December 11th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
That Houston / Cincy game will go down to the wire….
December 11th, 2011 at 12:20 pm
RiRadider – stfu you pos. raiders in the playoffs for sure. shmiucks like you will soon be kissing the ring. lol at you moron…
December 11th, 2011 at 12:21 pm
Beach Says:
The only way we get in the playoffs is winning the division. Cincy is going to beat Houston today, unfortunately.
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It’s looking that way. I’ve been saying it all week: you cannot overestimate the importance of this Texans-Bengals game. It has huge playoff implications, because the Bengals will not lose to the Rams or Cardinals.
The Raiders will need to win out or hope Denver loses one more game than them in the last four weeks.
December 11th, 2011 at 12:21 pm
Fingers Says:
That Houston / Cincy game will go down to the wire….
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Not if the Texans keep turning the ball over and missing FGs.
December 11th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
What’s going down in Miami right now is just more proof to me that we have bad coaching.
December 11th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
No Mas Diamante Says: you make no sense, the “special ed class” is coming through..
December 11th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
Wut a difference a week makes
Dolphins Vs Eagles
December 11th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
Sybil must have a new sock puppet…
December 11th, 2011 at 12:26 pm
Yep, Texas is playing a little ragged right now….
December 11th, 2011 at 12:26 pm
909RaiderLifer Says:
December 11th, 2011 at 12:15 pm
AlbertBreer … Packers TE Jermichael Finley told me that they’ll be targeting Raiders S Mike Mitchell in the passing game, having seen it on tape …
about 1 hour ago
Retweeted by Vitorrio Tafur
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Leets hope missle gives them a reason why not too early… Bone breaking hit on finley..
December 11th, 2011 at 12:27 pm
Jets killing KC
December 11th, 2011 at 12:27 pm
Jets are boatracing the Chefs…
December 11th, 2011 at 12:28 pm
Eagles-dolphins game looks like the eagles have this one and it makes me mad that the way the fins are playing it makes me question my self how in the hell did we lose to a team like this? Same goes for denver buffalo kansas city
December 11th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
Cant worry about last week now…its done , the season been riddled with are you kidding me moments, started week 2 …. Some how today the david an goliath scenario needs to be played out… Were that micky mouse that its possible…go fckn raiderzzzzz bully bully bully.
December 11th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
For purely selfish reasons (24 to be exact.) We must win today. Case of beer on the game, with a Packer fan buddy of mine….
December 11th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
BewareofRaiders: Question yourself??.Who the hell cares about what you think?..Are you the Raiders?..Holy Crap!1..all of you fools need to get in some type of therapy..
December 11th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
Raiders will NOT win another game the rest of the year..Mark it here!!!
December 11th, 2011 at 12:37 pm
Enjoy the game everyone. Need some chow, before the game/drinking begins….
Play like a RAIDER!….
December 11th, 2011 at 12:37 pm
@707 So says the kid constantly refering to homo tendacies?? Your killing ya self flea ..fly along …
December 11th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
Riraider Says:
Raiders will NOT win another game the rest of the year..Mark it here!!!
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If that’s what it takes to get rid of Hue, then so be it.
December 11th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
Riraider question yourself on why you still live at your parents house and why you get no p*ssy. Unlike you i have faith in my raiders i dont fraud
December 11th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
Agreed RaidingTexas: finally someone who makes sense on here instead of Knee pad wearing fools who think the raiders are perfect..
December 11th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
BewareofRaiders Like I said delusional fool..You must luv Hue’s man juice when you slurp him up after a loss
December 11th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
Faith/stupidity a closely related line…
December 11th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
Well, good start for Houston in the second half. A “tuck rule” type fumble for Dalton.
December 11th, 2011 at 12:45 pm
Houston converts! 16-10 Bengals now.
December 11th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
Quiet here today, especially for a game day. Where is everyone?
December 11th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
I think u guys are paying way too much attention to what the bungals are doing
How about focusing on the raiders game…this is a must win game, so are the next 3 after that, still can go 7-9 or 11-5, the bengals don’t have any control over that, and if you’re gonna focus on a team other than the raiders, how about the broncos
December 11th, 2011 at 12:58 pm
Boss01, I focus on all games that can and likely will affect the Raiders playoff chances. Right now, the Raiders are on the outside looking in. The Raiders lost control of their playoff destiny last weekend, so now other games become much more important.
Anyway, the Raiders aren’t playing right now, are they? Why do I need to focus on games that aren’t being played right now? Take your nitpicking elsewhere.
December 11th, 2011 at 12:58 pm
Pack 34 Raiders 17…
December 11th, 2011 at 1:01 pm
GB 45 Oakland 0………………………….
December 11th, 2011 at 1:02 pm
Thanks you Raiding. Saved me some typing.
Not like our lack of focus on GB is going to change the game. LOL!Stupid.
December 11th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
DonManoukiansNeighbor: go eat your wifes stinky P_ussy..Stinky Ho
December 11th, 2011 at 1:04 pm
What no chat today??
December 11th, 2011 at 1:06 pm
Fire HUE JACKSON..Please Mark davis or sell the F_ucking team
December 11th, 2011 at 1:06 pm
How old are you, Riraider?
December 11th, 2011 at 1:06 pm
More of Riraider
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2F3CMVagiHQ
December 11th, 2011 at 1:07 pm
75..
December 11th, 2011 at 1:09 pm
DonManoukiansNeighbor: I guess you prove you can train any animal..
December 11th, 2011 at 1:10 pm
Raiders 27 GB 38
December 11th, 2011 at 1:11 pm
is it 7 or 5?
December 11th, 2011 at 1:11 pm
Yep! And your mom is a hairy b!tch. But she is coachable.
December 11th, 2011 at 1:12 pm
Aww guess
December 11th, 2011 at 1:13 pm
donManoukiansNeighbor: Like I said, teach your Ho to douche Massengale might do the trick..
December 11th, 2011 at 1:17 pm
Locker comin up BIG
December 11th, 2011 at 1:58 pm
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2011 Raider Games
First: Ghostraider (exact score) Raiders 23 Broncos 20
Second: Sullivan44 Buffalo 38 Raiders 35
Third: Pretty Rick Raiders 34 Jets 24
Fourth: Sullivan44 Patriots 31 Raiders 14
Fifth: Fingers Raiders 24 Browns 17
Sixth: Zymurge Chiefs 28 Raiders 0 (WTF)
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909RaiderLifer RAIDERS–27 FUDGE PACKERS–23
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Blackmamba_20 The Mighty S&B 23 Unwashed Forskins 20
Buck Snort Oak 24 Puckers 10
Dakota Packers 35, Raiders 13
Deja vu Raiders 34 GB 31
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL OAKLAND 27 GREEN BAY 31
DMAC Raiders 31 Cheese heads 28
downsouthraider Raiders 24 Cheese Whiz 21
exlaraiderseasonticketholder 31-27
GG Raiders 38 Packers 37
Ghostraider Raiders 20 pack. .16..
Gilligan Raiders 45 Green Bay 42
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hwnrdr OAKLAND 27 GREEN BAY 31
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Jesus Packers 35 Raiders 20
Just Fire Baby Raiders 41 Green Bud Packers 38
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Method To My Madness Raiders 35 Packers 21
morilla Raiders 3 – Packers 2
Pretty Rick Raiders-27 Packers-23 (gulp)
PlunkforHOF Raiders 17 Lackers 10
qodrn Raiders 38 Packers 35
Raider-in-PA Raiders 34 Packers 31
Raider2DaHeart Raiders 27 GB 38
RaiderintheRockies Raiders 31 Pack 27
RaiderRetribution Raiders 20 Green Bay 14
RaiderRockstar Pirates 30 Cheeseballs 28
riraider GB 45 Oakghetto 0
rob_raider raiders 31 packers 27
Silverandblack666 Raiders 38 Packers 35
Sullivan44 Green Bay 41, Raiders 17
December 11th, 2011 at 2:08 pm
Damn, you have way too much time on your hands..Scary!
December 11th, 2011 at 2:21 pm
DAM IT PALMER
December 11th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
Keep talking stupid Fans on here..LOL
December 11th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
Oh what happened to all the Raider fans on here now..LOL
December 11th, 2011 at 2:36 pm
go play with ur little wee wee’s..LOL..G with violate them like a prison B_itch & Hue needs to resign & go pick Cotton in ALabama
December 11th, 2011 at 2:39 pm
LOL..Too funny!!
December 11th, 2011 at 2:40 pm
Blow out
December 11th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
Blow out!
December 11th, 2011 at 2:45 pm
Monkees can’t think or tackled or be coached..Oops I forgot they are coached by a Baboon!!..LOL
December 11th, 2011 at 2:46 pm
GB 35 Oak 0 Halftime score
December 11th, 2011 at 2:47 pm
Raider fans where are you
December 11th, 2011 at 2:47 pm
where are all the ghetto white boy fans & Beaners..LOL
December 11th, 2011 at 2:50 pm
Hue jackel……A stupid coach with no concept or direction..
December 11th, 2011 at 2:52 pm
Raiders & oakland= Poor ghetto black losers
December 11th, 2011 at 2:55 pm
Oakland= Monkey city of the Bay area..
December 11th, 2011 at 3:00 pm
Hue you look just like an APE..
December 11th, 2011 at 3:01 pm
Hue try eating more Bananas..
December 11th, 2011 at 3:03 pm
Please sell this team!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 11th, 2011 at 3:06 pm
Mark, you and Amy C_unt know nothing about the sport..
December 11th, 2011 at 3:15 pm
No pride, no nothing…
December 11th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
Wow, is this all it takes for the REAL fans who love this team..LOL
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