Jackson says there’s a time to cry ‘uncle’
By Steve Corkran
Monday, December 12th, 2011 at 6:42 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Raiders coach Hue Jackson said Monday that there’s a time to cry uncle. Despite what some might think, Jackson and the Raiders aren’t giving up on this season.
The time to cry uncle, Jackson said, comes when quarterback Carson Palmer is about to force a pass into tight coverage, as he did several times Sunday against the Green Bay Packers.
Palmer was intercepted four times by the Packers in a 46-16 loss at Lambeau Field. Jackson wants Palmer to do a better job of taking care of the ball and not forcing it when a receiver isn’t open.
“He threw some huge balls for us last night and made some plays, gave us a chance in some situations last night,” Jackson said. “There’s no problem there. The problem is, when you get opportunities sometimes you have to say uncle in this league, whether you throw it away or take a sack.”
Jackson said he and Palmer spoke about that subject last night.
“What I always tell him is, ‘Just get me to the next down with you. I’ll give you a better call the next play. Regardless of what happens, just get me to the next down and then we’ll make something good happen.’ And last night that point was driven home because he could see that he didn’t give us an opportunity to attain our goals.”
Don’t expect the Raiders to cry uncle when it comes to competing for a playoff spot despite back-to-back losses by a combined score of 80-30.
“We know we have some work to do to get this thing back,” Jackson said, “but, by no stretch is anybody throwing in the towel or decided, ‘Hey, look, we’ve given it all we’ve got.’ We’ve got more to give, and that’s what we’re going to do.”
Safety Mike Mitchell says the Raiders are “desperate” now that they are behind the Broncos and little margin for error the rest of the day.
At the same time, he is confident that he and his teammates have what it takes to make the playoffs and be heard from the rest of the way.
“I’m going to feel confident regardless,” Mitchell said. “Our team is the type of team that we’re going to just keep working regardless. However it’s going to play out, it’s going to play out. We got to handle our business. We can’t worry about what Denver’s doing.”
PENALTIES PROBLEM PERSISTS
The Raiders committed 11 penalties for 89 yards against the Packers. That padded their league-leading totals to 130 and 1,116, respectively, and kept them on pace for breaking the league records.
The Raiders are on pace for 160 penalties for 1,374 yards, which would eclipse the marks set by the 1998 Kansas City Chiefs (158, 1,304).
Jackson remains convinced that the lingering issue will be resolved before season’s end.
“I got three more weeks to hold me to that and then (people) can drill me at that time,” Jackson said.
For now, Jackson is searching for better ways to get his players to understand that the task of beating a team such as the Packers become that much more difficult when they commit so many senseless penalties.
“We have not fixed the penalty issue that has hurt this team tremendously,” Jackson said.
MITCHELL SHINES
Speaking of Mitchell, his effort against the Packers got overlooked because of how poorly the Raiders player overall. However, it’s worth noting that he intercepted an Aaron Rodgers pass and shut out tight end Jermichael Finley.
HELPING THE KIDS
Wide receivers Jacoby Ford, guard Stefen Wisniewski, offensive tackle Jared Veldheer and tight end Kevin Boss are signing autographs tonight for two hours in exchange for new, unwrapped toys.
The event takes place at the Raider Image store in Hayward from 6 p.m.-8 as part of the Toys for Tots Program.
Quarterback Carson Palmer, running back Michael Bush, fullback Marcel Reece and wide receiver Denarius Moore are scheduled to do likewise Dec. 19 at the same location, from 6 p.m.-8.
BUSH SLOWING DOWN
Running back Michael Bush averaged 115.3 yards per game (4.8-yard average) in his first four games as the primary back after McFadden’s injury.
Bush’s production has dipped dramatically the past three games, however. He averaged 55 yards (2.9) in those games, with an average of five fewer carries than the previous four contests.
Jackson dismissed the prospect of Bush wearing down, even though Bush already has 38 more rushes than he did in any of his first four seasons – he didn’t play at all in 2007.
“When people know that’s who you’re lining up back there …, you design ways to make sure you get him slowed down,” Jackson said.
PLAYOFFS PICTURE
The Raiders’ easiest path to the playoffs is to win their final three games and have the Denver Broncos lose two or all three of their games, or at least against the Chiefs on Jan. 1.
Were that to happen, the Raiders would win the second tiebreaker — the Broncos and Raiders split their two games, which is the first tiebreaker — based on a 4-2 divisional record, with the Broncos falling to 3-3 with the loss to the Chiefs.
Got all that? If so, here’s more.
The Raiders still can make the playoffs without winning their division. They are one game behind the New York Jets (8-5) as of now. However, the Jets still have games against the Eagles and New York Giants, and if they lose at least one of their final three games AND wind up tied with the Raiders, the Raiders would get the nod based on their win over the Jets.
DOUBLE TROUBLE
Care to know why defensive tackle Richard Seymour failed to register any tackles against the Packers, and he and his linemates failed to make many plays?
Here’s coach Jackson’s explanation:
“All of our defensive linemen get double-teamed,” Jackson said. “Those are some big guys we have. So they get double-teamed. They get grabbed, they get pulled. They get a little bit of everything.”
Jackson admitted that Seymour has to find a way to be more productive, regardless how many players are blocking him — and it’s virtually impossible for all four linemen to get double-teamed every play.
“He’s got to play better,” Jackson said. “Our whole defense has to play better. Our whole team has to play better. So it’s not just Richard Seymour. There’s 10 other guys on defense and there’s 11 guys on offense, and there’s another 11 on special teams that need to play better than what we have.”
HOUSTON’S PENALTY EXPLAINED
Jackson said he continues to see things called in games that he hasn’t seen before. He has a point here.
Against the Packers, Jackson was told that he couldn’t challenge a play in which a Packers kick returner stepped out of bounds because the replay wasn’t working.
Then, a penalty was assessed against the Raiders, even though the officials determined that a fumble by Rodgers actually was an incompleted pass, which happened long before the clip by Lamarr Houston.
“Because it was a personal foul,” Jackson said.
When asked if the penalty should have been wiped out, Jackson said; “That’s what I said, too. But in their opinion it is a personal foul during a play. So, it is tacked on to the end of whoever gets the ball last. So, it was a defensive penalty. So, they got half the distance. They went from the 8-yard line to the 4-yard line. Yes, I did have a fit. But that’s the rule.”
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December 12th, 2011 at 6:43 pm
1st
December 12th, 2011 at 6:49 pm
PALMER SHOULD BE JC’S BACK UP NEXT YEAR!!
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Now that statement is just plain silly. Even tho both those Q’s are lst rounders, if we went to trade Palmer, even after the last two weeks, I am sure we would get at least a lst rounder back. I would have a hard time believing we would get anything higher than a 3rd or 4th for Campbell.
December 12th, 2011 at 6:49 pm
I seen the personal foul penalty get called earlier this year in another game.
Incredibly stupid rule.
December 12th, 2011 at 6:50 pm
NFL record for penalties.
Not sure how a coach survives that.
December 12th, 2011 at 6:55 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 6:50 pm
NFL record for penalties.
Not sure how a coach survives that.
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To me the last game was an NFL record in unprofessional football. I don’t know how a coach survives that either.
December 12th, 2011 at 6:55 pm
The Raiders still can make the playoffs without winning their division. They are one game behind the New York Jets (8-5) as of now. However, the Jets still have games against the Eagles and New York Giants, and if they lose at least one of their final three games AND wind up tied with the Raiders, the Raiders would get the nod based on their win over the Jets.
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This isn’t entirely true, Corkran. The Titans must also lose one game. If the Jets lose one game and the Raiders and Titans win out, the Titans take the wildcard. If the Jets lose two games, and both the Raiders and Titans lose one game, the Raiders loss must be to the Lions (NFC) to get the wildcard.
December 12th, 2011 at 6:56 pm
What happens when the GM Mark Davis wants won’t take the job unless Hue is gone?
December 12th, 2011 at 6:56 pm
It was the worst first half in Raiders history, statistically speaking.
December 12th, 2011 at 6:58 pm
All of Hue’s words above is empty rhetoric. The penalties are the same week in and week out. No excuse.
The defense is garbage. If all his lineman are getting double teamed (sure Hue)….then the linebackers should just be flying all over the field and smashing people.
December 12th, 2011 at 7:02 pm
“When people know that’s who you’re lining up back there …, you design ways to make sure you get him slowed down,” Jackson said.
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And you should counter that to design plays for him to succeed once they figure it out. Keep trying the same old and see how far you get. Try a few more reverses a game Hue, that should keep the D on their heels.
December 12th, 2011 at 7:03 pm
Names2long Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 4:56 pm
To all you Hue haters out there,
Considering that this team is still in the playoff mix after losing its starting quarterback in week 6, its starting running back in week 7, two of its best receivers for the last several weeks, and not to mention, arguably, its best D-lineman early in the season, I think Hue is doing just fine. Would I like to see better than the last two weeks? Definitely, but it could be much worse overall with any of the other coaches the Raiders have had lately.
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Well maybe this team faces adversity even better with a different coach. There’s no way either one of us can prove our point.
All I know is that Hue is an Al Davis relic. He’s a guy that Al was stuck with because no serious head coach candidate would consider the circus atmosphere of Oakland any more. Now that Al is gone, the team can get a dam GM in here and make a serious evaluation of what it is Hue actually has accomplished.
Another point I would add: You’re using other Raiders coaches as a measuring stick now? Are you fkn kidding me? That is defeatist loser crap right there. That’s like saying, “My Yugo may not be a great car, but it sure as hell beats that Pinto I had two years ago.”
December 12th, 2011 at 7:05 pm
Linebacker Rolando McClain ran the 40-yard dash in 4.6 seconds. He has battled Crohn’s Disease since his freshman year in high school.
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Sorry but that’s not a slow 40 yd dash so enough of this he’s slow crap from everyone his ankle isn’t excactly a 100%. Also playing at this level with crohn’s disease I give him props. So IMO I’m giving him one more yr to prove haters wrong.
December 12th, 2011 at 7:05 pm
Looks like it’s gonna be nearly impossible for us to make the playoffs. It’s ok, I still love my Raiders. Don’t count on the Donks losing 2 out of 3. I still rock my Raiders gear whether thy suck or not. In other words we need a MIRACLE in order to make the playoffs. Coach doesn’t coach well without DMAC. I believe in MIRACLES because a MIRACLE must happen in order for my Raiders to advance to the playoffs.
December 12th, 2011 at 7:07 pm
Off-sides,late hits, and false starts are the penalties that need to be eliminated.The holds,PIs,and some personal fouls are out of our control and are purely at the discretion of the officials.We will never get the benefit of the doubt on those type of penalties.We will get those called against us.
December 12th, 2011 at 7:07 pm
Lame
December 12th, 2011 at 7:11 pm
D line is drawing double and Lamarr is just not getting it done.
December 12th, 2011 at 7:12 pm
So Hue,if other teams can design ways to slow things down when they know what is coming,why can’t we?
December 12th, 2011 at 7:16 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 6:56 pm
It was the worst first half in Raiders history, statistically speaking.
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That was the worst half in human history as far as I am concerned.
December 12th, 2011 at 7:17 pm
Lefty12 Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 7:12 pm
So Hue,if other teams can design ways to slow things down when they know what is coming,why can’t we?
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The only thing I can figure is that we never know whats coming.
December 12th, 2011 at 7:17 pm
Lechler missed that throw man…
December 12th, 2011 at 7:18 pm
Where’s the accountability? Tired of hearing Hue make excuses for penalties and poor play.
Quit trying to be everyone’s best friend and crack the god damned whip!
We have a reckless, undisciplined coach and reckless, undisciplined players. Does that surprise anyone?
Hue should be knee deep in a$$ right now.
If we had a GM, he should be knee deep in Hue’s a$$ right now.
December 12th, 2011 at 7:18 pm
FIRE CARSON PALMER!!!!!!
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FIRE CARSON PALMER!!!!!!
December 12th, 2011 at 7:19 pm
No excuses!
December 12th, 2011 at 7:19 pm
PLAY PRYOR PLAY PRYOR PLAY PRYOR!!!!!!
PLAY PRYOR PLAY PRYOR PLAY PRYOR!!!!!!
PLAY PRYOR PLAY PRYOR PLAY PRYOR!!!!!!
PLAY PRYOR PLAY PRYOR PLAY PRYOR!!!!!!
PLAY PRYOR PLAY PRYOR PLAY PRYOR!!!!!!
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PLAY PRYOR PLAY PRYOR PLAY PRYOR!!!!!!
December 12th, 2011 at 7:19 pm
Silverback Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 7:17 pm
Lefty12 Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 7:12 pm
So Hue,if other teams can design ways to slow things down when they know what is coming,why can’t we?
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The only thing I can figure is that we never know whats coming.
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Either that or our DC is incompetent.
December 12th, 2011 at 7:23 pm
Oldschool-I don’t think Hue acts like he is their best friend in that locker room.He does what most coaches do when it comes to talking about their teams.I’m sure he is doing some reaming behind closed doors.
December 12th, 2011 at 7:24 pm
Raiders are injured, depleted. Play makers out on O means 3 and out all too often and a pass rushing bent defense get exposed.
Same as it ever was.
Oakland is what they are and if they can’t produce on O and control the clock they struggle.
Get your play makers back, they can’t stack the box, you can run and the D can sit observe and rest.
Then they can do what they do better, defend points as the clock winds down and the opponent tries to go air.
Then of course Bres calls the prevent
December 12th, 2011 at 7:25 pm
GoodOle00 Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 7:17 pm
Lechler missed that throw man…
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That’s because he is a punter. I don’t think we want Lamar Houston trying field goals either.
December 12th, 2011 at 7:25 pm
24. Ricochet is desperate its just insane
December 12th, 2011 at 7:25 pm
PLAY PRYOR PLAY PRYOR PLAY PRYOR!!!!!!
PLAY PRYOR PLAY PRYOR PLAY PRYOR!!!!!!
PLAY PRYOR PLAY PRYOR PLAY PRYOR!!!!!!
PLAY PRYOR PLAY PRYOR PLAY PRYOR!!!!!!
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If Pryor was at all ready to play, you would have seen him in there playing against their scrubs in the 4th.
December 12th, 2011 at 7:26 pm
Lefty12 Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 7:19 pm
Silverback Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 7:17 pm
Lefty12 Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 7:12 pm
So Hue,if other teams can design ways to slow things down when they know what is coming,why can’t we?
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The only thing I can figure is that we never know whats coming.
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Either that or our DC is incompetent.
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You have to wonder what the players look at when the study and game plan.
December 12th, 2011 at 7:26 pm
Lefty12 Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 7:23 pm
Oldschool-I don’t think Hue acts like he is their best friend in that locker room.He does what most coaches do when it comes to talking about their teams.I’m sure he is doing some reaming behind closed doors.
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I no what’s with people acting like they no what goes on behind closed doors with hue and this team. All we no us what we see on tv and hear from them on tv are some presser.
December 12th, 2011 at 7:26 pm
28. Iggy
December 12th, 2011 at 7:30 pm
Putting Pryor out there now would be giving up on any chance at the playoffs. Man, I know I can be knee-jerk, but that’s just stupid.
December 12th, 2011 at 7:32 pm
I think I will wait until January to make my final judgment on the Raider coaches and players.
go raiders….I mean
GO RRRRRRRRRRAAAAIIIIIDDDDEEEERRRRRRRRRRSSSSSSSSSSS
December 12th, 2011 at 7:34 pm
After the fiasco yesterday on Comcast Lito was asked what HJ said to the team after the game.His response-that is for the locker room.I won’t say what goes on in there.
December 12th, 2011 at 7:34 pm
Coaching stability is one of the most important ingredients to building a contending team.
Good, stable organizations don’t panic when their rookie head coach immediately takes his team to playoff contention. Particularly when said rookie head coach A) did not have any say over the roster for the first five weeks of the season, B) is saddled with a UFL defensive coordinator and players who seem to be here simply to collect checks, making far more than their performance warrants, C) is dealing with season-ending injuries to his starting QB, starting WRs, starting RB, and starting RDE, D) generally has a dearth of talent and depth at almost every position. Sure, every team has injuries, but good teams overcome them. Thing is, this isn’t a team that has enough talent to overcome that many injuries.
Hard to blame Hue for the penalties or lack of discipline when those are problems that have existed for over two decades now, no matter who the coaching staff is.
Has Hue made mistakes? Of course. He’s not perfect. Some of the gameplans, particularly offensively, have definitely been flawed. A good coach, however, will learn from those things. Hue also has to be the de facto GM, and had to assume those responsibilities midway through the season. That’s asking a lot of a guy who just got his first head coaching gig.
Hue will get another season at the helm, but he’ll get a GM to take some of the responsibilities off his shoulders. And he’ll have a full training camp and offseason with which to build up a team that, quite frankly, is not very talented. Certainly not talented enough for a deep playoff run. The “fire Hue” stuff is misguided to put it lightly.
December 12th, 2011 at 7:34 pm
SilverNBlackPA Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 1:54 pm
“Watch any Jacoby Ford interview and try to convince yourself he isn’t gay.”
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I don’t think so, and I have pretty good gaydar. Jacoby has a soft voice, and is an attractive young man; those don’t make him gay. OTOH, something about Nnamdi, can’t quite put my finger on it…but Nnamdi is a top-notch player and human being so who cares?
From last year, Jacoby: http://www.raiders.com/media-lounge/videos/Behind-the-Shield-Online-December-14th/81273100-8875-47b4-a798-9dcb3d5b29f3
December 12th, 2011 at 7:39 pm
Lefty12 Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 7:34 pm
After the fiasco yesterday on Comcast Lito was asked what HJ said to the team after the game.His response-that is for the locker room.I won’t say what goes on in there.—–
One would think that the players would have words for each other as well. Not finger pointing but collectively reaching agreement on what needed to be done.
December 12th, 2011 at 7:40 pm
“He threw some huge balls for us last night and made some plays, gave us a chance in some situations last night,”
Really? When exactly was this? When it was 17 to nothing or maybe 24-0? I’m sure jackson’s got to say something, but sometimes, the stuff that comes out of his mouth just doesn’t jive with the facts. Any more of this and he’s going to start sounding like that Information minister from Iraq talking about how they were slaying the infidel dogs as US tanks were rumbling by in the background shot.
December 12th, 2011 at 7:45 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 7:34
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players who seem to be here simply to collect checks
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Not sure who these guys are.
December 12th, 2011 at 7:47 pm
yo
December 12th, 2011 at 7:48 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
Coaching stability is one of the most important ingredients to building a contending team.
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I understand what you’re saying. But if you have a bad coach, you also run the risk of digging an even deeper hole for your organization. To attract those talented players here, you’ve got to have a head coach that those players think can get this team to the playoffs. Otherwise, you end up attracting guys who on paper look good, but are just here to get paychecks like we’ve seen for 10 years now.
Let’s face it, the Raiders can’t get much better through the draft next year. They don’t have much of a draft left. It will come down to free agency. Who has the better chance to attract those free agents: Hue Jackson or a Fisher/Del Rio/Cowher type of coach? With all this “bully” and “we’re going to fix this” talk, then running out flat, unprepared teams to get shellacked as often as we’ve seen, Hue has an uphill job to lure top notch players to Oakland.
Ultimately, a GM needs to come in and decide for himself (and for the good of the team) if Hue should stay or go. Mark and Amy had better be working on that right now.
December 12th, 2011 at 7:52 pm
If Hue came out and ripped the players in the press everyone would be complaining about how he was throwing the players under the bus.
December 12th, 2011 at 7:53 pm
Can someone tell me how the Raiders, who draft from the EXACT same pool of college kids and obtain free agents from the EXACT same pool of established vets manage to not only lead the league in penalties but do so EVERY year since I was a small child?
From a purely mathematical perspective, it is impossible.
My tinfoil hat confimation came when we got Randy Moss and his previously overlooked push offs started getting TD’s nullified. Like he just started doing that when he got to Oakland…..
BTW, that game sucked. Almost ruined my whole day….
December 12th, 2011 at 7:53 pm
Hue doesn’t NEED to Rip the Players in the press, they’ve set themselves up for plenty of ripping with their playon the field…
December 12th, 2011 at 7:54 pm
The Raiders need to play competitive in all the remaining games and they have to beat KC.
If that can’t be done, then its time for a new coach.
DHB is the starting #1 receiver. Is he the #1 starter or is he a bust? Cause DHB was looking ok when the season started
December 12th, 2011 at 7:54 pm
silverback Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 7:45 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 7:34
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players who seem to be here simply to collect checks
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Not sure who these guys are.
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Seymour has checked out, for one.
Michael Huff is nowhere to be found now that he’s not in a contract year.
Tommy Kelly disappears for games at a time.
To his credit he has played through injuries, but McClain’s lapses in concentration have proved costly.
And that’s not even mentioning players like DHB, Satele and Barnes who shouldn’t be starters, Bush who NEEDS to share carries but has played nearly every offensive snap since McFadden went down, and a revolving door of marginal players at RDE and CB (Bryant is good, but not a base DE, Lito is a solid vet but not a starting-caliber player anymore, and DVD is a rookie and plays like one).
December 12th, 2011 at 7:55 pm
Ultimately, a GM needs to come in and decide for himself (and for the good of the team) if Hue should stay or go.
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Any GM coming in here is going to want his own people who share his style and player philosophy and views. The chances that Jackson would remain would be very very very slim. Unless Jackson miraculously got us deep into the playoffs from here. Which after the last two weeks seems HIGHLY unlikely.
December 12th, 2011 at 7:59 pm
Unbelievable why in the heck is CNN, fox news, and msnbc talking about Tim tebow where in the hell is this world goin. What’s next a reality show for this kid I’m tired if hearing about this.
December 12th, 2011 at 8:02 pm
These last two losses are more than just losses, it’s the way the team has played. The whole team meltdown. Right out of the bat, Palmer does his best imitation of Boller and JaMarcus, and Seymour and McClain follow with an imitation of bullfighters. Oh, excuse me, HueSux says the DLinemen were double-teamed. I guess GB played with 10 Olinemen.
True I am sure HueSux is looking to sell tickets, but his BS won’t make the team play any better, his BS won’t make him prepare the team better, or get him a decent game plan and play calling. Even show him how to adjust on the fly, or how to stop a meltdown.
We can fill the page with a bunch of excuses of why HueSux should remain, my guess is that we can come up with 10 new ones each day, bottom line he set himself up for failure with his BS. This debacle is all on him and he should share the major brunt and accept responsibility in actions not words.
Even today, HueSux continues to disrespect the Raider Nation by feeding us more BS instead of showing some humility and realize that he has made way too many mistakes, instead we get more BS. I’ve been a football and Raiders fan far too long and enough to recognize bad and inept coaching when I see it, particularly wasting talent and having a good team underachieve.
Adding insult to injury, playing novice GM and dooming the Raiders future with that moronic and idiotic Palmer trade. You think that an intelligent GM is going to put up with this BS. If indeed the Raiders do get a quality GM to take the team to the next level, first thing in the agenda should be to get rid of this fool.
December 12th, 2011 at 8:02 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 7:54 pm
silverback Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 7:45 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 7:34
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players who seem to be here simply to collect checks
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Not sure who these guys are.
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Seymour has checked out, for one.
Michael Huff is nowhere to be found now that he’s not in a contract year.
Tommy Kelly disappears for games at a time.
To his credit he has played through injuries, but McClain’s lapses in concentration have proved costly.
And that’s not even mentioning players like DHB, Satele and Barnes who shouldn’t be starters, Bush who NEEDS to share carries but has played nearly every offensive snap since McFadden went down, and a revolving door of marginal players at RDE and CB (Bryant is good, but not a base DE, Lito is a solid vet but not a starting-caliber player anymore, and DVD is a rookie and plays like one).
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If a player is underperforming, over paid or getting beat often does not necessarily mean his is just picking up a paycheck.
December 12th, 2011 at 8:05 pm
I understand what you’re saying. But if you have a bad coach, you also run the risk of digging an even deeper hole for your organization. To attract those talented players here, you’ve got to have a head coach that those players think can get this team to the playoffs. Otherwise, you end up attracting guys who on paper look good, but are just here to get paychecks like we’ve seen for 10 years now.
Let’s face it, the Raiders can’t get much better through the draft next year. They don’t have much of a draft left. It will come down to free agency. Who has the better chance to attract those free agents: Hue Jackson or a Fisher/Del Rio/Cowher type of coach? With all this “bully” and “we’re going to fix this” talk, then running out flat, unprepared teams to get shellacked as often as we’ve seen, Hue has an uphill job to lure top notch players to Oakland.
Ultimately, a GM needs to come in and decide for himself (and for the good of the team) if Hue should stay or go. Mark and Amy had better be working on that right now.
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What I’m saying is it’s far too early to call Hue Jackson a bad coach. As a coach, especially a rookie one, he’s absolutely had more good moments thus far than bad. Which is why he’ll get another season.
Cowher isn’t going to be coaching anywhere next season, and even if he was? Bringing in former Superbowl-winning coaches almost never works. Very hard to replicate the same kind of success in a completely different environment. Fisher and Del Rio have also recently been accused of “losing the locker room”, and Del Rio allegedly started slacking off, coming in late and leaving early, after getting a big money contract extension. Del Rio also threw his OC under the bus two weeks in a row. Point is, these guys aren’t perfect either. They’ve burned bridges too, and are not sure bets to attract anyone at all to Oakland.
The Raiders need to give Hue a GM to help him collect more talent. Hue himself said he’s already looking to upgrade any position if the guys on the roster right now can’t get it done. He’ll get a chance to make some moves and add more talent to a team that doesn’t have very much talent. If that doesn’t work? Then in 2013, when the Raiders will have a 1st round pick again, new HC options will be explored. Right now? Very, very, very premature.
December 12th, 2011 at 8:06 pm
YA,I know you see yourself as the ultimate blog GM but you have a lot of things wrong,IMO.Lito is playing because of injuries to 3 other CBs.DHB is the #3 WR when Ford and Moore are healthy.Bush is someone who would be a back-up if it weren’t for injuries,sharing carries.Also,the back who would be sharing carries with him now that he is starting is also injured.Those are just a couple of examples I believe you overlook
December 12th, 2011 at 8:06 pm
jmcclain Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 7:59 pm
Unbelievable why in the heck is CNN, fox news, and msnbc talking about Tim tebow where in the hell is this world goin. What’s next a reality show for this kid I’m tired if hearing about this.
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If the Raider defense could have stopped the bleeding at say 200 yards of rushing…they wouldn’t be talking about this kid anymore.
Raiders sat there AND GAVE the division to those guys.
a total and complete failure by this Raider franchise!
December 12th, 2011 at 8:07 pm
After the season, Mckenzie for GM, Romo for LB coach, Nolan for DC or Del Rio, new receiver coach, new strength and conditioning coach and keep Hue. A lot to deal with for a rookie HC and they still have a chance to finish with a record most fans were expecting before the season started. As for this season, the injured guys need to step up now or there won’t be anything meaningful to play for after next game.
December 12th, 2011 at 8:08 pm
I just finished watching a football life -Al Davis.
Good story. At the end they showed Hue Crying after the Houston win. I wish we could have had that emotion the last couple weeks. Instead we were the laughing stock of the league that didn’t show up to play. Well here’s to hoping we get an emotional coach and Raiders team this sunday to beat the living piss out of the Lions. Win lose or tie Raiders till I die!
December 12th, 2011 at 8:09 pm
Seriously DHB is supposed to be the top receiver and difference maker. IF the best he can be is some freekn role player that can’t be a difference maker as a starter…then he needs to be replaced next year.
I think Carson Palmer has not developed the chemistry with him or vice-versa.
Too bad because the kid seemed to be headed in the right direction
December 12th, 2011 at 8:10 pm
JLofty Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 7:53 pm
Can someone tell me how the Raiders, who draft from the EXACT same pool of college kids and obtain free agents from the EXACT same pool of established vets manage to not only lead the league in penalties but do so EVERY year since I was a small child?
From a purely mathematical perspective, it is impossible.
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I can. Basically the philosophy here is the players can do what they want. Davis felt Fans pay to see Darren McFadden play, not watch Tom Cable coach. It started in the mid sixties. Davis let players have long hair and beards and eff around as long as they performed on Sundays. That generation of player valued freedom at all costs and they performed very well for Davis. If you think I am kidding go find a photo of Stabler playing for Paul Bryant and then one where he is playing here. You think Vince Lombardi or Tom Landry would tolerate a bunch of crazed partying freaks??
But times have changed. Now, players crave discipline and want to know where they stand with the team with the scheme and they want focus and they want others to focus. The newer players learn from the older players that losing focus, losing concentration, not giving a sh** is tolerated around here. It is absolutely endemic. I thought maybe last year, things were starting to change, but after the last two weeks it absolutely looks like a COMPLETE housecleaning needs to be done.
December 12th, 2011 at 8:10 pm
I think Huebert deserves another year. He’s a rookie head coach who’s had more than his fair share of serious situations thrown his way all and all in his first year. I can’t remember another rookie HC having gone through more than he has.
1. The lock out
2. Al Davis dies
3. The starting QB goes down
4. A depleted secondary
5. Your star RB out
6. Star WRs out
7. The McClain incident
I’m surprised the dude isn’t getting loaded in the film room.
December 12th, 2011 at 8:10 pm
lefty12 Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 8:06 pm
YA,I know you see yourself as the ultimate blog GM but you have a lot of things wrong,IMO.Lito is playing because of injuries to 3 other CBs.DHB is the #3 WR when Ford and Moore are healthy.Bush is someone who would be a back-up if it weren’t for injuries,sharing carries.Also,the back who would be sharing carries with him now that he is starting is also injured.Those are just a couple of examples I believe you overlook
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Read what I posted above, not just the part that Silverback quoted. What I’m saying is that these guys shouldn’t be in the position they’re in BECAUSE of injuries. It isn’t the fault of a head coach who didn’t have control over his own roster until week 5.
December 12th, 2011 at 8:11 pm
morilla Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 8:10 pm
I think Huebert deserves another year. He’s a rookie head coach who’s had more than his fair share of serious situations thrown his way all and all in his first year. I can’t remember another rookie HC having gone through more than he has.
1. The lock out
2. Al Davis dies
3. The starting QB goes down
4. A depleted secondary
5. Your star RB out
6. Star WRs out
7. The McClain incident
I’m surprised the dude isn’t getting loaded in the film room.
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I think some night’s he has one to many irish coffee’s lol
December 12th, 2011 at 8:16 pm
Anyone sense the leftover Davis minions being a bit giddy about this losing? Now they can say, “see? Told you Al wasn’t the problem”.
December 12th, 2011 at 8:16 pm
DHB might not be the most talented, but he has the most heart. Ford, Moore, and McFadden should be out there playing we are fighting for a playoff spot. They are acting like lil Bi%%&es.
December 12th, 2011 at 8:19 pm
If we don’t win out, it’s pretty much a wrap. The off season’s going to be interesting. First off season w/o Al, pretty much ever. Interesting to see how we draft, what types of players we sign. It’s something not too many Raider fans have seen before. An NFL draft without Al Davis making the Raiders’ picks.
December 12th, 2011 at 8:20 pm
JLofty Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 7:53 pm
Can someone tell me how the Raiders, who draft from the EXACT same pool of college kids and obtain free agents from the EXACT same pool of established vets manage to not only lead the league in penalties but do so EVERY year since I was a small child?
From a purely mathematical perspective, it is impossible.
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Simple, pal. Al Davis.
December 12th, 2011 at 8:21 pm
I pray the Toys for Tots program in Hayward brings in some nice toys for ol Krappy.
The old fool can really use a new toy truck to keep his shinny new allowance check safe in.
Go get ‘em, Veldheer/Wiz!
December 12th, 2011 at 8:22 pm
Sullivan, I know we don’t agree much, but we’re in total concurrence on the McClain incident. That has had a worse effect than people realize.
December 12th, 2011 at 8:23 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 8:16 pm
Anyone sense the leftover Davis minions being a bit giddy about this losing? Now they can say, “see? Told you Al wasn’t the problem”.
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This defense has Al Davis written all over it!
December 12th, 2011 at 8:24 pm
Sorry, meant “shiny”. A few margs from the PARTYDUDE 8000 and a mean BJ from this Alaskan stripper got your homeboy feelin’ the sweet buzz.
The buzz of a righteous tea bag session with a hot Italian MiLF in my hot tub in 20 short minutes.
CHECK PLEASE
December 12th, 2011 at 8:24 pm
Wonder if the Dolphins sign Ray Finkle as there next coach.
December 12th, 2011 at 8:25 pm
two games in a row, two mail ins. whats goin on inside the locker room? bad coffee? what?
December 12th, 2011 at 8:25 pm
I can. Basically the philosophy here is the players can do what they want. Davis felt Fans pay to see Darren McFadden play, not watch Tom Cable coach. It started in the mid sixties. Davis let players have long hair and beards and eff around as long as they performed on Sundays. That generation of player valued freedom at all costs and they performed very well for Davis. If you think I am kidding go find a photo of Stabler playing for Paul Bryant and then one where he is playing here. You think Vince Lombardi or Tom Landry would tolerate a bunch of crazed partying freaks??
But times have changed. Now, players crave discipline and want to know where they stand with the team with the scheme and they want focus and they want others to focus. The newer players learn from the older players that losing focus, losing concentration, not giving a sh** is tolerated around here. It is absolutely endemic. I thought maybe last year, things were starting to change, but after the last two weeks it absolutely looks like a COMPLETE housecleaning needs to be done.
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Last I heard you wanted McClain and Mitchell gone, has your list grown as of late.
December 12th, 2011 at 8:28 pm
Why am I blogging when I should be watching that gem of a MNF matchup, Puke.
December 12th, 2011 at 8:29 pm
I really thought we were at least going to put up a fight yesterday.
December 12th, 2011 at 8:30 pm
Thank god for booze.
December 12th, 2011 at 8:31 pm
Here’s coach Jackson’s explanation:
“All of our defensive linemen get double-teamed,” Jackson said. “Those are some big guys we have. So they get double-teamed.
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I’m no math major so I had to pull out the calculator. Then I used the fingers, carried the 1 and everything and still couldn’t come up with it.
We run a 4-3 so 4 linemen gets doubled and the QB is not one of them helping out, which leaves a 2 on 7 situation. We can’t stop 2 guys from beating us? Chuck B should be in Alaska by the end of the week.
December 12th, 2011 at 8:33 pm
I didn’t expect a win in Green Bay, but one thing worth noting is that not only are we 0-2 since the McClain incident, we’re yet to even show up for a game since the McClain incident. Both Miami and Green Bay jumped out in front of us 34-0, and Miami just fired their head coach! I’d like to believe that the McClain incident was spilled milk as far as team focus is concerned, but what we’re seeing on the field is indicating otherwise. It’s one thing to lose a couple of close ones. We haven’t even gotten off the ground since that incident. We’ve just been dead in the water. Nothing.
December 12th, 2011 at 8:33 pm
Bottom line this D is not talented enough to overcome penalties, those old Raider Defenses were full of talent and could overcome penalties. Also look at the Univ. of Miami Defenses of the 80’s and early 90’s they were some of the most undisciplined football teams, but they won because they had the talent to overcome it.
December 12th, 2011 at 8:33 pm
Last I heard you wanted McClain and Mitchell gone, has your list grown as of late.
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haha. Watching the tape the Raiders did not play that poorly on offense early. It’s just the mistakes. Raiders are driving, executing, then Boss misses a block, and Palmer throws the ball up for grabs. Then Raiders are driving, holding, false start, dropped pass, dropped pass. Game over.
December 12th, 2011 at 8:33 pm
Chuck B should be in Alaska by the end of the week.
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Chuck B should make like Chuck D and fade into the distance.
December 12th, 2011 at 8:34 pm
2012 McClain will be replaced by Travis Goethel
December 12th, 2011 at 8:36 pm
Somebody should tweet MM34 that our Pass defense was #3 in the NFL under Shell in that 2-14 season. Nobody could throw on us that year. 14 QBs LTFAO at our Top #3 Pass D ranking.
December 12th, 2011 at 8:37 pm
So, What’s going to happen this week?
do we…
A) have a faceplant like the last 2 weeks
or
B) Whip some ass and pretend like we want to make the playoffs.
December 12th, 2011 at 8:38 pm
I don’t buy that Davis was a players’ owner. The list of players that he had mistreated is too long for any sane person to buy that for one second. Anyone who became synonymous with the Raiders other than Al Davis was a threat to him, be it coach or player. He harassed and even sabotaged Stabler, Allen, and several others because they’d become more synonymous with that Raiders’ shield than he was.
December 12th, 2011 at 8:40 pm
Maybe Nick Bell can give Mike Bush a breather, Apperantly he needs one.
December 12th, 2011 at 8:41 pm
We need to pray! Thats all…
1. The lock out (thank you God for football)
2. Al Davis dies (please take care of Al Davis)
3. The starting QB goes down (God, may you heal him quickly)
4. A depleted secondary (Oh Lord, please help these guys)
5. Your star RB out (Dear God, we need him. Please help us out especially on this one)
6. Star WRs out (Oh Lord, please get these guys back out on the field)
7. The McClain incident (God, please guide him in life)
Thanks for hearing our prayers. Amen!
December 12th, 2011 at 8:42 pm
Seattle’s defense is an Al Davis wet dream.
December 12th, 2011 at 8:43 pm
When Steve Spags gets fired tonite, I hope he get’s a call from Hue to be our new DC.
December 12th, 2011 at 8:43 pm
The Packers 2nd possession I think we had defensive penalties on 4 consecutive lst downs. Can you imagine giving Rogers lst and 5’s over and over?? Not only are you going to lose, you are going to get rolled badly.
December 12th, 2011 at 8:45 pm
84.HairyBush Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 8:37 pm
So, What’s going to happen this week?
do we…
A) have a faceplant like the last 2 weeks
or
B) Whip some ass and pretend like we want to make the playoffs.
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This question will be answered after the first series for the offense and the defense. We will know before our first piss.
December 12th, 2011 at 8:47 pm
This question will be answered after the first series for the offense and the defense. We will know before our first piss.
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good one
December 12th, 2011 at 8:49 pm
This question will be answered after the first series for the offense and the defense. We will know before our first piss.
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That’s what I am afraid of.
My wife came in the room the last couple games and asked me why I was still watching. I’m sick in the head I have to watch every snap even when we are getting killed. It sucks when the tone of the game is set early and it is not in your favor. It makes for a looonnnnng game.
December 12th, 2011 at 8:49 pm
Long live Hue Jack City but some of his answers in this article are weak. I assume he cant say what he feels more directly because its not best for the team.
84. B
December 12th, 2011 at 8:50 pm
The fact that DHB, Schilens and Murphy are not able to even provide a COMPETENT receiving threat is a huge disappointment.
So it all really came down to a 5th round pick?
December 12th, 2011 at 8:51 pm
Does anybody that puts on the Raider uniform understand these three words: STOP THE RUN!
December 12th, 2011 at 8:53 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 8:50 pm
The fact that DHB, Schilens and Murphy are not able to even provide a COMPETENT receiving threat is a huge disappointment.
So it all really came down to a 5th round pick?
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I used to like Murphy. “used to” are the key words.
December 12th, 2011 at 8:53 pm
Chuck B and his defense are on a very, very short leash. If the Lions come out and score a TD on their first possession, the home fans will turn on them!
December 12th, 2011 at 8:53 pm
If we had a competent DC we would of had this Division wrapped up.
December 12th, 2011 at 8:53 pm
DHB needed some stickum yesterday.
December 12th, 2011 at 8:54 pm
Chazerella is as glass as they come.
December 12th, 2011 at 8:54 pm
“Anyone sense the leftover Davis minions being a bit giddy about this losing? Now they can say, ’see? Told you Al wasn’t the problem’.”
Not to berate a guy who can’t fight back any longer, but he WAS the problem: first, since he insisted on being the defensive guru and second, because once, decades ago, players no longer sought out the Oakland/LA Raiders as a team they wanted to play for, and once the rest of the league “grew” teams that were very good, Al’s penchant for not understanding a team concept of building a great defense and a great offense began taking its toll on the Raiders. It’ll take a GM working closely with Hue and probably a new defensive coach to change things. I know you hate Bresnahan, but he’s stuck working with the “talent” on the defense, talent not chosen or drafted with a team concept in mind (by Al, of course.)
There was indeed a time in the NFL when a few great athletes on either side of the ball were enough to catapult a team to a championship or at least to contending for championships, but that’s before football became more complicated with intricate systems and packages on offense and defenses designed to defend against those systems. Coaching had changed, become much more sophisticated, and Al didn’t change with the times.
What we are left with is a defense that is filled with aging, once-talented players like Seymour, at times good players such as Kelly, youngsters like Wimbley and McClain who appear not to be playing in systems or alongside players who complement their own talents, and a patchwork of guys in the secondary who look lost.
In short, Al always overestimated what he perceived to be an athletic player’s ability to adapt to different schemes, giving too much credit to their athleticism and not enough credit to scheme and discpline w/in the scheme. His notions ran contrary to the sophistication of modern NFL football.
We have talent on offense, if they mend for next season. I even have to credit the much maligned Samson Satele for giving his all when it’s obvious how hurt he has been. We lost our QB, had to get another one who had to learn plays overnight, had to try to gain some semblance of compatibility with an ever-changing cast of players due to injuries. Our offensive problems are, to me at least, completed understandable.
However, we suck on defense and have forever, it seems.
We lost two guys on defense to injury who probably would have made a difference with their talent, but forgive me if I believe even with them healthy, we were probably going to see an undisciplined defense that may be so because we’ve not plugged in the kinds of guys we need at certain spots. It’s not that they try to fail; it’s that many of them don’t have the specific skill set they need to succeed. McClain is not a basher as successful middle linebackers are expected to be. He will never be that guy. If his intelligence in calling defensive sets and in defending against this or that are his areas of strength, then change the defense to a 3-4 in order to use his skills or get rid of him. The Raiders never have a matched set of any players. They don’t complement one another at all. It reminds me of Al’s desire on offense to have speed burners with a qb who had a weak arm or who had an arm, but one which was consistently inaccurate on long throws. Once again, Al thought that if a player was an athlete, he could do it all. No, that’s just not true.
December 12th, 2011 at 8:56 pm
BREAKING NEWS: Tim Tebow was found having sex with Roger Goodell in a barn with many farm animals.
When questioned about the incident Tebow replied over an over the wins were legit! the wins were legit!
December 12th, 2011 at 8:57 pm
Ok…maybe DHB will break out in his 4th year.
Just kiddin, gotta give the guy props for getting hauled off the field strapped to a cart and then showing up for practice that week.
December 12th, 2011 at 8:58 pm
beach Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 8:51 pm
Does anybody that puts on the Raider uniform understand these three words: STOP THE RUN!
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55 certainly doesn’t.
December 12th, 2011 at 8:59 pm
# HairyBush Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 8:54 pm
Chazerella is as glass as they come.
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Funniest sh!t I’ve heard all day!
December 12th, 2011 at 9:00 pm
Uncle.
December 12th, 2011 at 9:01 pm
Bill Parcells needs to whoop some ass in Oakland.
bunch of undisciplined mofo’s.
December 12th, 2011 at 9:03 pm
102. Thank you for taking the time to state the obvious, to me at least.
December 12th, 2011 at 9:03 pm
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December 12th, 2011 at 9:03 pm
YA,those guys are exactly in the position they should be in.They are secondary players that are being forced into starting roles because of injuries to people in front of them.None would be starting if it wasn’t for injuries.
December 12th, 2011 at 9:05 pm
Jackson’s full of chit. Team quit on him two weeks in a row and he has no answers. Chance of the team winning out is slim to none. Same rotten culture infecting the franchise for the past 20 years. He should have used his opening to kick some ass.
December 12th, 2011 at 9:05 pm
It is do or die this Sunday, Raider Nation! Hue needs to remind his team that Detroit is also fighting for a playoff spot.
December 12th, 2011 at 9:06 pm
2 minutes into the 2nd quarter of the GB game we had 6 yes 6 penalties, 4 drops, a pick and a 50 yard run we gave up. How do you expect to win?
December 12th, 2011 at 9:07 pm
SnB,you want to get rid of DHB because he is becoming a position receiver instead of a burner like Moore.That makes no sense.He is becoming the position receiver who will go over the middle.You need a receiver who can do that.
December 12th, 2011 at 9:08 pm
“We know we have some work to do to get this thing back,” Jackson said, “but, by no stretch is anybody throwing in the towel or decided, ‘Hey, look, we’ve given it all we’ve got.’
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December 12th, 2011 at 9:10 pm
Lefty,
I am getting tired of hearing about injury this and injury that.
DHB is fine as a starter. THe fact that he and Carson haven’t figured it out yet is beyond me. But he is a starter…so let’s not say the receiving corps is depleted.
Murphy was the leading receiver last year and Chaz was at one time looking like a legit receiver.
Then Hue brought in TJ Housh because of “chemistry”
I just don’t buy the injuries as crippling this offense to the point that they can’t score in the 1st half.
I am not saying get rid of DHB…but if he’s just a backup receiver at this point…that would be very disappointing to say the least.
December 12th, 2011 at 9:14 pm
Deadspin’s reporting that Tebow was nailing that Lindsey Vonn. Those Christian fundies get all the pu$$y now.
December 12th, 2011 at 9:15 pm
The Rams are an awful, awful, awful team…..my goodness
December 12th, 2011 at 9:15 pm
lefty12 Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 9:03 pm
YA,those guys are exactly in the position they should be in.They are secondary players that are being forced into starting roles because of injuries to people in front of them.None would be starting if it wasn’t for injuries.
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Dude… that’s exactly what I’m saying. They shouldn’t be in this position, but because of injuries, they are.
The problem is, when your roster comes down to guys who SHOULD BE role players and guys who give wildly inconsistent and sometimes poor performances like Seymour, Kelly, McClain, Huff, Barnes, and Satele? Then you can’t expect that team to win on a consistent basis.
The fact that Lito Sheppard is starting at CB; the fact that Bush has been playing nearly every single offensive snap since McFadden went down; the fact that DHB is now supposed to be the #1 WR; all of these things are a direct result of the roster Hue was saddled with by the guy who had control of the roster up until week 5 of the season.
So yes, good teams overcome injuries. But good teams also have quality depth so that when injuries happen, not only can your backups compete but your third-stringers can contribute as well. This team doesn’t have that caliber of depth.
December 12th, 2011 at 9:15 pm
Detroit is 23rd in rushing offence, Raiders should/must stop the run.
December 12th, 2011 at 9:18 pm
DHB isn’t a starter.He is our over the middle possession receiver.And you said earlier he should be gone-#58.You worry too much about where someone was drafted instead of whether or not they are good.Brady was drafted in the 6th.Do you think people in NE are b!tching because it took a 6th rd QB to lead them to a SB win?
December 12th, 2011 at 9:19 pm
Detroit is 27th against the run, so Mr. Bush should have a huge day.
December 12th, 2011 at 9:20 pm
Id like someone to explain to me why Travis Goethel is the supposed saviour of the MLB..
Thats not to defend the current play from the MLB,
but a couple of tackles in preseason warrants saviour status??
enlighten me please
December 12th, 2011 at 9:23 pm
Goethel was rumored to be in line for a starting job the last two seasons before going down with an injury. He has apparently been a favorite of both coaching staffs. Looks alright shedding blocks in the run game. Not sure how consistent he’d be in a starting role, especially with the injuries piling up for him.
December 12th, 2011 at 9:24 pm
Lefty,
DHB is NOT the over the middle possession receiver….or some third down receiver.
He’s the starter on the outside and has been all year.
He certainly wasn’t some role player earlier this year.
December 12th, 2011 at 9:25 pm
Thanks young(A)
I havent seen much from him as a player, i know they were high on him, hey man if he can fix anything then HELL YEAH get him in there..
Why cant Romac shed blocks aye, hes massive
December 12th, 2011 at 9:26 pm
Goethel was a favorite of the late DC.
All bets are off with the roster once the new DC is hired. Some of these cats MIGHT get a year to prove themselves to the new guy up close and personal.
Going to be interesting to see what direction Marc Davis and Amy Trask go in to get a GM.
December 12th, 2011 at 9:26 pm
Goethel is also supposedly better at reading and reacting-being where he is supposed to be.
December 12th, 2011 at 9:26 pm
DHB is a starting receiver and has been all year.
December 12th, 2011 at 9:27 pm
The Raiders committed 11 penalties for 89 yards against the Packers. That padded their league-leading totals to 130 and 1,116, respectively, and kept them on pace for breaking the league records.
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You really have to be good to be that bad. Think about it. You may not win the big games, but to get flagged that many times tells me they are getting away with a whole lot more than they are getting flagged for.
And then the bs phantom call tells me the league is scared of the Raiders. That is why the mandate to flag the Raiders.
December 12th, 2011 at 9:27 pm
Moore and Ford are the starters, SnB.
December 12th, 2011 at 9:27 pm
Saw Goethel play at ASU, he is a smart player, can get off blocks and has great instincts. The guy is a leader, unfortunately injuries have kept him off the field.
December 12th, 2011 at 9:30 pm
zopi Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 8:02 pm
These last two losses are more than just losses, it’s the way the team has played. The whole team meltdown. Right out of the bat, Palmer does his best imitation of Boller and JaMarcus, and Seymour and McClain follow with an imitation of bullfighters. Oh, excuse me, HueSux says the DLinemen were double-teamed. I guess GB played with 10 Olinemen.
True I am sure HueSux is looking to sell tickets, but his BS won’t make the team play any better, his BS won’t make him prepare the team better, or get him a decent game plan and play calling. Even show him how to adjust on the fly, or how to stop a meltdown.
We can fill the page with a bunch of excuses of why HueSux should remain, my guess is that we can come up with 10 new ones each day, bottom line he set himself up for failure with his BS. This debacle is all on him and he should share the major brunt and accept responsibility in actions not words.
Even today, HueSux continues to disrespect the Raider Nation by feeding us more BS instead of showing some humility and realize that he has made way too many mistakes, instead we get more BS. I’ve been a football and Raiders fan far too long and enough to recognize bad and inept coaching when I see it, particularly wasting talent and having a good team underachieve.
Adding insult to injury, playing novice GM and dooming the Raiders future with that moronic and idiotic Palmer trade. You think that an intelligent GM is going to put up with this BS. If indeed the Raiders do get a quality GM to take the team to the next level, first thing in the agenda should be to get rid of this fool.
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You clearly dont have a fvckin clue about football. You think Hue Jackson WANTED Al to DIE 5 weeks into the season? You think Hue Jackson WANTED Campbell to break his collarbone 6 weeks into the season? You think Hue Jackson WANTED DMAC to tear his foot apart 7 weeks into the season? Did he give up too much for Palmer? Yes, the additional 2nd round pick was too much, but Brown wasn’t budging for less and we were NOT about to roll with Kyle fvcking Boller on a 4-2 squad with realistic playoff aspirations. Idiotic trade? Are you fvcking CRAZY? Hue Jackson went and got the ONLY available QB that could keep our season alive.
Do you know how many NFL coaches have been fired 13 games into their first season? None. Because people with a half a fvckin brain dont tell a ROOKIE HC with a mediocre roster that 13 games is enough to show what he can do. This isn’t fantasy football junior.
December 12th, 2011 at 9:30 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 9:15 pm
The Rams are an awful, awful, awful team…..my goodness
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And Spagnuolo is not a head coach. He will be fired. Throw 2 passes at the goal line with Steven Jackson in the backfield? Are you kidding me?
December 12th, 2011 at 9:30 pm
Jhill,
I agree. THere really isn’t anyone on that defense that is completely safe.
Curry is demanding a lot of dollars next year
Branch might ask for too much
Change to a 3-4 and Shaughnessy suddenly has no role
TK and Seymour cost way too much for what they do
McClain’s issues in Alabama could have him out of here
Only players I see on the guarantee list are Wimbley (guaranteed money and he’s got skills), Houston and Bryant.
December 12th, 2011 at 9:31 pm
SnB,Moore and Ford were being phased in as the teams go to receivers.Starting is not the issue,it is who is being targeted.When those 2 are healthy,DHB is the over the middle,position guy.Where does he make most of his receptions-in the middle of the field while Moore and Ford are running the outside routes.
December 12th, 2011 at 9:32 pm
Zopi and Mistic,
Go find another team. Hue Jackson and Carson Palmer are here for awhile!
December 12th, 2011 at 9:33 pm
So yes, good teams overcome injuries. But good teams also have quality depth so that when injuries happen, not only can your backups compete but your third-stringers can contribute as well. This team doesn’t have that caliber of depth.
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Well said YA… someone in here with a modicum of reason…
December 12th, 2011 at 9:33 pm
beach Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 9:30 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 9:15 pm
The Rams are an awful, awful, awful team…..my goodness
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And Spagnuolo is not a head coach. He will be fired. Throw 2 passes at the goal line with Steven Jackson in the backfield? Are you kidding me?
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Beach,
Steven Jackson was about to kill somebody if they didn’t give him the ball there.
that was pathetic showing by the Rams coaches there
December 12th, 2011 at 9:34 pm
We have 6 PERFECT pieces for a 3-4 front.
DE – Houston
NT –
DE – Bryant
OLB – Curry
ILB – Goethel
ILB – McClain
OLB – Wimbley
December 12th, 2011 at 9:35 pm
And fvck you too Mistic. Don’t think we didn’t all notice that you didn’t say a PEEP in here while CARSON PALMER lead this team on a 3 game winning streak, but you just couldn’t WAIT for him to have a bad game, I dare say you even HOPED he had a bad game just to say I told you so.
December 12th, 2011 at 9:35 pm
reading and reacting-being where he is supposed to be.
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MMMMMM kind if important right..
I Think Romac is getting better, but this stage in year 2, we want our Patrick Willis we thought we had drafted.
December 12th, 2011 at 9:35 pm
lefty12 Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 9:31 pm
SnB,Moore and Ford were being phased in as the teams go to receivers.Starting is not the issue,it is who is being targeted.When those 2 are healthy,DHB is the over the middle,position guy.Where does he make most of his receptions-in the middle of the field while Moore and Ford are running the outside routes.
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Its really hard to say what the deal is there because Jacoby Ford has missed so much time this year.
I believe that DHB’s short game has to be established before the deep ball is respected. Right now, most corners play off the guy.
I hope all three are healthy down the stretch…..I think DHB is still the “starter”
December 12th, 2011 at 9:37 pm
Refs still screwed us with the ‘Tuck Rule’ but at least the Superbowl wasn’t on the line.
December 12th, 2011 at 9:37 pm
what d front the ravens play ??
3-4 too me generates more sacks? could be wrong
December 12th, 2011 at 9:38 pm
What we saw Sunday is a realistic comparison of where we stand versus the elite team in the league. Our receivers aren’t up to par, especially Heyward-Bey. The guys drops balls, still catches it against his chest like we all did when we were 10 years old, and is no help at all in preventing interceptions. Our secondary flat out can’t cover, at all, Our DL is so undisciplined it’s painful to watch, it’s like they never heard a hard count before. The Raiders are improved, but still have a ways to go before we challenge the elite teams.
December 12th, 2011 at 9:39 pm
bcz24 Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 9:35 pm
And fvck you too Mistic. Don’t think we didn’t all notice that you didn’t say a PEEP in here while CARSON PALMER lead this team on a 3 game winning streak, but you just couldn’t WAIT for him to have a bad game, I dare say you even HOPED he had a bad game just to say I told you so.
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I was watching the tape of the lst half, and Palmer actually played incredibly well, that lst pick aside. He had four passes dropped, which could have really changed the outcome of that half.
December 12th, 2011 at 9:40 pm
Blackmamba_20 Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 9:37 pm
what d front the ravens play ??
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Multiple fronts. Ngata plays 3-4 DE and 4-3 DT (Trevor Pryce had the same role for them for years) and Suggs and Jarrett Johnson play both 4-3 DE and 3-4 OLB.
December 12th, 2011 at 9:42 pm
Beat the Lions, RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 12th, 2011 at 9:44 pm
Kinda wish Michael Bush would eat some skittles…..
December 12th, 2011 at 9:47 pm
Om my gosh, Seattle just beat a lousier team. Rams suck so bad, and the Seahawks destroyed them. A reeeeeaaalll barn burner here watching these two toilet bowl teams go at it.
Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 12th, 2011 at 9:51 pm
15 passes in the last 2 games have gone directly through the hands of the receivers…Number of passes smacking them in the face after going through the hands…..5
December 12th, 2011 at 9:53 pm
So basically we could if in 3-4 change it up and get wimbley play with a hand down or standing depending on situation.. Im warming to the idea.. Our dline hasnt been as dominate as last year, shonasty hurt didnt help..des bryant has been better than i thought
December 12th, 2011 at 9:55 pm
Blackmamba_20 Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 9:37 pm
what d front the ravens play ??
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Their base Defense is a 3/4. Pagano runs a similar scheme to what Rex Ryan runs.
December 12th, 2011 at 9:56 pm
The key is finding a guy who can play 1-tech DT and 0-tech NT. Ravens had Siragusa, Gregg, and now have Cody.
Paul Soliai is an option in free agency. I think the Raiders should find a way to acquire a late 1st or early 2nd round draft pick so they can draft Alameda Ta’amu or Dontari Poe.
December 12th, 2011 at 9:57 pm
Lovie Smith should be run out of Chicago for throwing that game yesterday. What a disgrace to the NFL! Urlacher is just an old bum. Brady is going to bring that Denver team back to reality.
December 12th, 2011 at 10:00 pm
Yeah our next draft looking pretty slim right now, and very unexciting to watch on the first day….
We have had some success in later rounds of late
December 12th, 2011 at 10:05 pm
Is there a dumber player in the NFL than Marion Barber?
December 12th, 2011 at 10:08 pm
they all get double teamed? at the same time? lol….
December 12th, 2011 at 10:09 pm
Even Gruden talking Tebow time. This is one time I am rooting like heck for Belichick to destroy his opponent!
December 12th, 2011 at 10:09 pm
People relax, we’ll get into the playoffs one way or another, and we’ll be fine. Do Not count this team out.
The Raiders have NOT:
*Thrown in the towel
*Mailed it in the last two games
*Intentionally been on course to break the penalty/yardage record
*Kept Dmac out because he is a prima-donna
*Signed Chuck B to a long term deal
Do Not count this team out people. I see them playing good ball and going deep into the play-offs. Nuff said.
December 12th, 2011 at 10:09 pm
olinesux Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 10:08 pm
they all get double teamed? at the same time? lol….
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Worst Hue comment of the season.
December 12th, 2011 at 10:10 pm
He didn’t say they get doubled at the same time.he said they all get doubled,and they probably do.He wasn’t going to throw Seymour under the bus,even though he easily could have.
December 12th, 2011 at 10:11 pm
“All of our defensive linemen get double-teamed,” Jackson said. “Those are some big guys we have. So they get double-teamed. They get grabbed, they get pulled. They get a little bit of everything.”
Like a little grab ass?
December 12th, 2011 at 10:13 pm
“He threw some huge balls for us last night
December 12th, 2011 at 10:20 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 6:55 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 6:50 pm
NFL record for penalties.
Not sure how a coach survives that.
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To me the last game was an NFL record in unprofessional football. I don’t know how a coach survives that either.
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Easily. Anybody got 8 million theyre going to throw at Gruden, Cowher or Jeff Fisher?
I thought so. THATS HOW A COACH SURVIVES.
Get a GM, get back to work….they’ve led the league in penalties and gone to Super Bowls, and so did the Ravens – thats a lame a$% excuse.
if the game was 46-35 and the led in penalties, its the same thing – that “penalties” crap is some garbage that makes the a$% kicking worse. They beat themselves, and its when and how the penalties occur.
December 12th, 2011 at 10:23 pm
Beach Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 9:57 pm
Lovie Smith should be run out of Chicago for throwing that game yesterday. What a disgrace to the NFL! Urlacher is just an old bum. Brady is going to bring that Denver team back to reality.
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I’d like to see a victory over Detroit, and New England get brought down to reality…but anybody thing Brady is going to “melt-down”. Did anybody catch is yelling act after HE THREW A PICK? I mean, enough is enough…at some point implosion imminent …and the Tebow thing keeps going…but have a feeling New England will just outscore them – but stranger things have happened.
incidentally, Suh is back, and Palmer might get knocked out of the game, and were right back were we started at – the upside is Terrelle Pryor might just explode and win us the next 2 – hell, T.J. Yates did – so anything is possible.
December 12th, 2011 at 10:27 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 9:40 pm
Blackmamba_20 Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 9:37 pm
what d front the ravens play ??
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Multiple fronts. Ngata plays 3-4 DE and 4-3 DT (Trevor Pryce had the same role for them for years) and Suggs and Jarrett Johnson play both 4-3 DE and 3-4 OLB.
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Thats what I’d do – throw a boat load of cash at Jarret Johnson, sign Brandon McKinney for the minimum and see if you can get Mangini as DC or lure Chuck Pagano back – they need to change it up on defense. McClain is from the 3-4 at Bama, and the Raiders might be able to get a decent NT in the fourth (Baptiste from Baylor)
December 12th, 2011 at 10:28 pm
Thank you Rolando for speaking. It means so much to us for you to grace us with those words and agreeing to answer a few questions but not saying anything but worn out, mind numbing cliches. But you spoke…thank you so much. A player of your caliber who has done so much for the Raiders and performed so well is certainly headed for Canton. We realize your too good to speak with ANYONE about ANYTHING. Afer all you played in the SEC and thats tougher than the NFL right? We know this.
Thank you for gracing us with your wonderful words. When will you speak again oh great one?
December 12th, 2011 at 10:36 pm
Caint you just die Hue, follow monkey AL to sh.t hole heaven ?
December 12th, 2011 at 10:43 pm
Crap is as Crap does; that’s management under Hue. Now then girdiron pundits, how about if we had a qb with young legs (maybe Hue could have inserted Pryor in the 4th quarter when Green Bay put in their second?) who could disrupt a “D” by scrambling ?? Just like, ummmmm….Tebow ??? Even though Tebow is no longer gaining yardage like he did in the Broncos second game with our Raiders, just one move like he is ready to scramble freezes the opposition “D”. Instead we have samo, samo CP throwing interception after interception, with busted up knees taking hit after hit and sack after sack. How predictable – Gee thanks Hue.
December 12th, 2011 at 10:45 pm
Coach is a flippin fraud, dump his ebony azz! and dump him now (like tomorrow).
December 12th, 2011 at 10:47 pm
Quotes I lean on for inspiration:
-”This ones on me”. You could even add an emphatic “PERIOD” for greater weight and confidence. You say “Period” and this time u really mean it.
-”There’s no one in that locker room who is giving up”
-”We just have to take care of our own business and not worry about what anybody else is doing”.
-”We need to play better”.
-”These guys don’t blink”
-”We will fix this” (this particular statement has been used after every single loss, and some wins this season).
December 12th, 2011 at 10:55 pm
Hue, we don’t cry Uncle, we cry HAVOC!!!
December 12th, 2011 at 10:57 pm
174. Thats what you get when you have MANDATORY media interviews.
What do you wnat him to say. “Jayzuz, this is brutal. We’re so beat up can’t even field a team barely!”
“Man, McFadden looks bad y’all! Teams we play next don’t even need to game plan for him!”
December 12th, 2011 at 11:00 pm
I just heard this and can’t believe he said it. I never heard such buffoonery from a NFL head coach!
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Jumbo Tron Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 10:11 pm
“All of our defensive linemen get double-teamed,” Jackson said. “Those are some big guys we have. So they get double-teamed. They get grabbed, they get pulled. They get a little bit of everything.”
December 12th, 2011 at 11:03 pm
176,
Yes I do want him to say stuff like that.
I realize no coaches or players ever say the truth about how they feel…well, rarely, and the ones that do make front page news for their “shocking” disclosures.
December 12th, 2011 at 11:05 pm
“Om my gosh, Seattle just beat a lousier team. Rams suck so bad, and the Seahawks destroyed them. A reeeeeaaalll barn burner here watching these two toilet bowl teams go at it.
Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”
Wouldn’t you say the quality of play from most teams in the NFL is quite bad this year? I mean, there are some interesting games, some close games with playoff ramifications (ie, games like Giants-Dallas), but I have to say that there don’t seem to be many really good teams and is there really one complete team? (I actually think the Steelers, in the end, might be the closest to a complete team, even though I think the Packers will once again prevail because of Rodgers playing out of his mind.)
December 12th, 2011 at 11:07 pm
“Is there a dumber player in the NFL than Marion Barber?”
I am sure there is, and that that player wears silver and black. (Gallows humor out of my depression).
December 12th, 2011 at 11:09 pm
But seriously how does this team NOT feel demoralized after two consecutive beatdowns like that? Being embarrassed and huliliated on national tv like that TWO weeks in a row?
I know why. It’s because:
-”No one is throwing in the towell yet”
-”We still have a chance to accomplish our goals for this team and it starts this Sunday”
-”We just need to put this last one behind us and focus on Detroit”
-”We will work on the things we need to fix”
-”We just have to play better football. It’s that simple”
-”Those guys in that locker room know what they need to do. Now, it’s just a matter of doing it and I think we can”
..wispy words of wisdom that serve as a soothing salve and give me hope and confidence.
December 12th, 2011 at 11:16 pm
Wow this blog is full of crazy people we’re 7-6 n we don’t know for sure if we will make playoffs or not but what we know is we will finish 9-7 or 10-6 with a rookie head coach , who had to go throw growing pains .. One pain he had to endure was dealing with our D from the start … N having 3 of the top 5 players injured on O most of the season … Replacing a starting quarterback n having to get him to playing level n dealin with alot of other bullish|t that’s a good record for a team that have stunk for almost 8 years n you guys want freaking Hue out ?really, because he couldnt deliver playoffs like other coaches have done the past 9 years or did he finish worse then them ? Didn’t we fire alot of coaches in last decade , where did that get us ? Callahan, Norv, Kiffin, Cable? N first time we have a coach that have us at good record with a god damn awful D n with average QB at best the Star running back out n starting WR out most of the year n did I forget very bad special teams as well with only exceptions being Jano n Lechler , well I dont know if I’m more pissed of our losses or my fellow Raiders fans , I know you guys are all smart but u guys need to take a chill pill n relax sumtimes n look at the whole pic n look at the circumstances we been in this year n b glad the future is bright now … Just please dont ruin a good thing this time by askin for Hue’s head , the guy will do everything to take us to the promised land n, I trust him 100% … I’m sorry for the long post n I did not intend to post anything for the whole week but this kinda stuff really piss me off … Alright hope u guys have a great weekend ..
December 12th, 2011 at 11:17 pm
I’m not buying into all the excuses.
There have been 1st yr. HC’s who have succeeded.
Hue was handed an 8-8 team with the arrow pointed up, NOT a bottom dweller with little hope.
We’ve had alot of injuries. So have almost every other team in the league and one of them won a SB last year with 15 guys on injured reserve.
Hue deserves some slack for JC going down and having to bring in a guy literally off the couch to play QB and that is not insignificant.
Ouside of that, there’s no excuse for getting hammered like that the last two weeks and yes Hue that IS on you.
December 12th, 2011 at 11:19 pm
Gerard Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 11:09 pm
But seriously how does this team NOT feel demoralized after two consecutive beatdowns like that? Being embarrassed and huliliated on national tv like that TWO weeks in a row?
I know why. It’s because:
-”No one is throwing in the towell yet”
-”We still have a chance to accomplish our goals for this team and it starts this Sunday”
-”We just need to put this last one behind us and focus on Detroit”
-”We will work on the things we need to fix”
-”We just have to play better football. It’s that simple”
-”Those guys in that locker room know what they need to do. Now, it’s just a matter of doing it and I think we can”
..wispy words of wisdom that serve as a soothing salve and give me hope and confidence.
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and then this:
‘Hey, look, we’ve given it all we’ve got.’ {and then} We’ve got more to give,
Seriously, I love Hue but man, com’on, this team has some legit issues.
December 12th, 2011 at 11:21 pm
I don’t want Hue to get fired if nothing else than the fact i’m sick of having a new HC every darn year.
NEWSFLASH:
We will NEVER be 100 % healthy so if that is the measuring stick we use to assess Hue than it’s not a good one.
We will have injuries next year too. It’s the way it is. The winners deal with it and succeed in spite of it.
December 12th, 2011 at 11:36 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 11:16 pm
Wow this blog is full of crazy people we’re 7-6 n we don’t know for sure if we will make playoffs or not but what we know is we will finish 9-7 or 10-6 with a rookie head coach , who had to go throw growing pains ..
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Gerard Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 11:17 pm
I’m not buying into all the excuses.
I’m with Gerard on this one. Look across the bay: they have a rookie head coach, they had NO camp with that rookie head coach, they had a WORSE record than we did last year, and they were a team in turmoil.
We promoted someone who was here last year, who knew the offense and the players, we were playing well late last year, when our starting Q went down, we got a better one, and we have gotten raked by some inferior opponents costing us a playoff position.
I am going to make this very easy for you guys. There is a simple expression you learn very quickly in sports: you are either getting better, or you are getting worse. No one is staying the same.
December 12th, 2011 at 11:37 pm
I know injuries should never b an excuse but when your good on Just one side( offense) n 3 of your top 5 O players are out then I dont think your going to do anything against anybody … N I don’t blame Hue for our D because …he didn’t get his own guy n he def isn’t a D coach n alot of Average Os with players injured can win if they have great D but nOt without it
December 12th, 2011 at 11:39 pm
If we held Presidents to the standards of Head Coaches America would be thriving.
December 12th, 2011 at 11:48 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 11:36 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 11:16 pm
Wow this blog is full of crazy people we’re 7-6 n we don’t know for sure if we will make playoffs or not but what we know is we will finish 9-7 or 10-6 with a rookie head coach , who had to go throw growing pains ..
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Gerard Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 11:17 pm
I’m not buying into all the excuses.
I’m with Gerard on this one. Look across the bay: they have a rookie head coach, they had NO camp with that rookie head coach, they had a WORSE record than we did last year, and they were a team in turmoil.
We promoted someone who was here last year, who knew the offense and the players, we were playing well late last year, when our starting Q went down, we got a better one, and we have gotten raked by some inferior opponents costing us a playoff position.
I am going to make this very easy for you guys. There is a simple expression you learn very quickly in sports: you are either getting better, or you are getting worse. No one is staying the same.
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Good take but you forgot one thing about the team across the bay … The guy isn’t exactly coaching for the first time… N the guy had great D to rely on before he got there so the guy is just asking his team to play turnover free n field position game … You think Hue can go tell our O to just play sound football, don’t worry abOut scoring too much because our D got your back ? Cmon now ..you think if Hue had that great D … Is our record better or worse n let’s say coach across the bay have the Our D , our DC do you guys still think their record is that good … Cmon man you Guys are crazy
December 12th, 2011 at 11:49 pm
Al D. Davis Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 10:45 pm
Coach is a flippin fraud, dump his ebony azz! and dump him now (like tomorrow).
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it got you the same place it got the firing of Norv Turner, Art Shell, Callahan, Cable, etc.
Grow up – this thing is beyond a freaking head coach and it always was.
December 12th, 2011 at 11:50 pm
188,
Yes, but why’d Cable get fired then? He took a 5 win team and made ‘em an 8 win team but THAT wasn’t good enough. That’s why Hue is here. Why was Cable held to a higher standard? Why didn’t he get a “pass” especially when the team improved so much with him at the helm? I am not saying we should have kept him i’m just making a point.
Now 7-6 with the arrow decidedly pointed DOWN. As Seymour said we are getting WORSE not better and at the most critical point in the season. Much worse. My gosh we just got beat by a collective 50 pts. in two games.
December 12th, 2011 at 11:51 pm
A
December 12th, 2011 at 11:51 pm
If you got a good D, they undoubtedly will always keep the opposition to less points than your offense can muster. We dont got that kind of D. Our D mails it in around the time of the coin flip, then we get behind so quick it takes Hue out of his game plan and forces him to play catch up. Its pure bull sh*t that our D mails it in.
December 12th, 2011 at 11:52 pm
Luvmarvhub Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 11:07 pm
“Is there a dumber player in the NFL than Marion Barber?”
I am sure there is, and that that player wears silver and black. (Gallows humor out of my depression).
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They looked pretty smart vs. San Diego on NFL Network -You surrender monkey, cry baby a$5 fake a%& fans.
pitiful – we’d be speaking French if we had “fans” like this in WW2
December 12th, 2011 at 11:55 pm
# beach Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 8:53 pm
Chuck B and his defense are on a very, very short leash. If the Lions come out and score a TD on their first possession, the home fans will turn on them!
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Even if the Raiders make the playoffs….I still expect Reggie McKenzie to be hired as GM and head of personnel and Chuck B to be fired and Steve Spagnolo to be hired as DC.
Spags would be a great fit here and him and Waufle won a Super Bowl and beat the unbeaten Pats in the Super Bowl!
December 12th, 2011 at 11:58 pm
Raider 510 Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 11:39 pm
If we held Presidents to the standards of Head Coaches America would be thriving.
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Presidents are CHOSEN. So are head coaches. America has very little to do with either.
December 13th, 2011 at 12:02 am
Jumbo Tron Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 11:51 pm
If you got a good D, they undoubtedly will always keep the opposition to less points than your offense can muster. We dont got that kind of D. Our D mails it in around the time of the coin flip, then we get behind so quick it takes Hue out of his game plan and forces him to play catch up. Its pure bull sh*t that our D mails it in.
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Exactly this is why injuries on O hurt us the most because we don’t have those 3 ferraris to put up alot of points to compensate for our D n is the reason why we turning the ball over because Palmer feels like he got to take over games instead of being calm n knowing that ouR D got his back , so the guy is trying to do alot with running game last 2 weeks n no legit wide receivers n no freaking T.E which is the reason he’s playing like $hit
December 13th, 2011 at 12:04 am
^^^^^^^
Even if the Raiders make the playoffs….I still expect Ravens Head of Player Personnel Eric DeCosta or Packers head of player personnel Reggie McKenzie to be hired as the Raiders GM and DC Chuck B to be fired and Steve Spagnolo to possibly be hired as the DC.
Spags would be a great fit here and him and Waufle won a Super Bowl and beat the unbeaten Pats in the Super Bowl!
December 13th, 2011 at 12:06 am
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 6:58 pm
All of Hue’s words above is empty rhetoric. The penalties are the same week in and week out. No excuse.
The defense is garbage. If all his lineman are getting double teamed (sure Hue)….then the linebackers should just be flying all over the field and smashing people.
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Agreed. That is mainly the crappy DC’s fault and Hues.
December 13th, 2011 at 12:07 am
I’m tired of hearing the same ol same ol regarding penalties also. All he says , we will fix it and we need to get better.
How about telling us HOW you are going to fix it and how you are going to get better.
December 13th, 2011 at 12:08 am
so unless we get our ferraris back or have a good D we won’t win alot of games
December 13th, 2011 at 12:09 am
“They looked pretty smart vs. San Diego on NFL Network -You surrender monkey, cry baby a$5 fake a%& fans.”
Yeah, but Raider Sam, we just don’t learn, do we? Penalties and more penalties at the most inopportune of times…
I suggest giving more than the Wonderlic test.
December 13th, 2011 at 12:10 am
DKnight007 Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 12:07 am
I’m tired of hearing the same ol same ol regarding penalties also. All he says , we will fix it and we need to get better.
How about telling us HOW you are going to fix it and how you are going to get better.
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Always been a problem since 2 decades not sure wtf anybody have to do to fix those
December 13th, 2011 at 12:13 am
Most of dumb penalties occur on D side, shows the quality of our Coordinators
December 13th, 2011 at 12:34 am
Imo,I think the Lions are on the clock,thats IT!Talk about NEXT year,Next friggin YEAR!
December 13th, 2011 at 12:50 am
Hue also made the point during the press conference that every week he sees something happen he has never seen in all his years in football regarding the officiating.He mentioned the instant replay yesterday.While I admit this organization makes more than its share of stupid penalties,the total problem can’t be solved because the officials won’t let it be.This is something we have to live with and overcome because we will always get called for more penalties than our opponents.
December 13th, 2011 at 1:15 am
Raider 510 Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 11:39 pm
If we held Presidents to the standards of Head Coaches America would be thriving.
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Sure. A new president every 3 weeks would be just great for the country…
A democratic recall process was mulled over by the founding fathers and that’s exactly why they decided automatic 4 year terms was a better idea. Every president ever elected is loved by one half of the country and hated by the other. Every single president would be recalled, the country would never have a leader. That’s chaos.
December 13th, 2011 at 1:20 am
Gonna be an interesting off season. No Al Davis. Somebody other than Al Davis will be signing off on our draft picks, FA acquisitions. Gonna be something different. No more track stars that played linebacker in college as a second sport…
December 13th, 2011 at 1:26 am
Night all
December 13th, 2011 at 1:31 am
All we need is a new D coord. that will give them a spark. Offense will come around. We’re depleted and likely tired. Shouldn’t be, but that’s why we’re more in shape for our office desk or couches talking crap on blogs.
Consistency fellas. Consistency. Lay off Hue and the Raiders and support them while there’s still a chance. Let all that discussion happen after the season is over with.
Hue has character. And, character builds champions. Let him build his team, not Al Davis’ (with all due respect Al).
December 13th, 2011 at 2:15 am
As I’ve said this team should have never brought this loser QB crybaby Palmer here in the first place! Known to throw more INT than TDs. Then the defense never gets on page 1, instead scattered thru the chapter. Chuck B., dude you don’t have it, anymore! The Miami and GB games were horrible from my point. Give some other players a chance I don’t the playoffs this year! Go out with bang this year and next hopefully JCampbell is better and give Palmer his release quickly! By the way we need leadership from Hue not excuses. Make this work coach!!!!!!!
December 13th, 2011 at 4:29 am
Raiders Team Report
USA Today
At a time when the Raiders needed Carson Palmer to step up the most, he made throws which would make a raw rookie cringe.
When that happens against the Green Bay Packers and Aaron Rodgers, the contrast makes Palmer looks even worse.
Palmer seemed to know it too, and didn’t shrink from his responsibility in a 46-16 loss to the Green Bay Packers at Lambeau Field.
With the Raiders’ primary objective to keep Green Bay from getting takeaways, Palmer fed the beast and he made it way too easy.
The Packers’ defense is prone to giving up yardage, but also harvesting turnovers and the Raiders proved no different than most everyone else on the schedule. Palmer threw four interceptions, with the Raiders also turning it over on a fumble which was recovered and run back for a touchdown.
“I just need to be more patient, take what they give me and try not to score 14 points on one drive,” Palmer said.”Take it one play at a time, take the shot if it’s there, and if not, live for the next down, and I didn’t do that.”
It began on Oakland’s first possession, which started promisingly enough when Palmer hit Chaz Schilens for 14 yards on third-and-7 and followed it up with a 16-yard completion to Darrius Heyward-Bey to the Green Bay 47. Michael Bush ran for four yards, bringing up a manageable second-and-6.
Flushed out of the pocket by Clay Matthews, Palmer seemed to be seeking Heyward-Bey but essentially lobbed one into triple coverage, with linebacker D.J. Smith intercepting the gift and returning it 11 yards.
Two plays later, Ryan Grant ran 47 yards for a touchdown and the Packers had all the momentum they would need.
“You can’t dig yourself that big of a hole,” Palmer said. “You really can’t dig yourself a hole at all, and for me to throw that interception was unacceptable.”
Raiders coach Hue Jackson, who engineered the trade that brought Palmer to Oakland for a heavy price (a first-round pick in 2011 and what will probably be a second-round pick in 2012) didn’t mince words after Palmer followed the first interception with three more.
One came on a slant pass which was read correctly by Charles Woodson, one came on a forced throw into the end zone, and the final interception come on a deflection.
“I’m disappointed in the four picks, and I told him so,” Jackson said. “I think you have somebody who’s pressing, trying to make plays for a football team. There were times we made some ill-advised throws and we’ve got to do a better job of taking care of the ball, and he knows that.”
NOTES, QUOTES
—So what’s going on with running back Darren McFadden?
The Raiders have maintained that the injury that has kept their most explosive player out for the last six games was a mid-foot sprain and shot down speculation that it was anything more serious. On the air, CBS analyst Phil Simms, who met with coaches and players during production meetings, called it a “Lisfranc” injury — a more serious condition that usually means the end of the season.
Caoch Hue Jackson didn’t confirm nor deny, and said he still thought McFadden would play at some point in the last three games.
“It’s a sprained foot, Lisfranc, whatever you want to call it. Basically the same thing,” Jackson said. “I think Darren will be back before the season’s over.”
Jackson said that McFadden has not had surgery and does not need surgery.
—Aaron Rodgers was as good as advertised, with the only blemish an end-zone interception by Mike Mitchell.
However, there were communication issues with the Raiders’ defense that made it too easy for Rodgers.
A 37-yard touchdown pass to Jordy Nelson was borne from confusion over a Cover-2 defense that left the Packers receiver wide open with Stanford Routt trailing, believing he had deep help.
In hoping to confuse Rodgers with coverages, the Raiders instead fooled themselves.
“You’ve got to give credit where credit is due. They’re a good offense. Everybody in the league has experienced how good they are,” safety Matt Giordano said. “They’re a very good offense, but there were a lot of things we could have executed a little bit better to limit them.”
—Wide receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey had three dropped passes earlier in the game, but took some solace from a 34-yard reception in which he broke several tackles to get the ball deep into Green Bay territory.
“Those are plays I wish I had ,but I made up for it,” Heyward-Bey said. “Some plays, that’s what’s going to happen.”
He was willing to set aside the Miami and Green Bay losses and point to the future and the final three games of the season.
“When we won three in a row, guys were making plays and stuff,” Heyward-Bey said. “The running game was still working. The last two games have been hiccups. Miami got us and Green Bay got us. It’s as simple as that.”
STRATEGY AND PERSONNEL
PLAYER NOTES
—DT Richard Seymour has failed to register a tackle or assisted tackle in the last two games.
—WR Denarius Moore was on the field Monday doing some jogging, but it won’t be known until Wednesday if he has an opportunity to practice with the team.
—WR Jacoby Ford was on the field jogging Monday, but it won’t be known until Wednesday if he has an opportunity to practice with the team.
—WR Chaz Schilens is day-to-day with a foot injury sustained against Green Bay.
—FS Michael Huff is day-to-day with a hamstring sustained against Green Bay.
—DT John Henderson was walking with the help of a crutch following the Green Bay game because of a knee injury and is day-to-day.
REPORT CARD VS. PACKERS
PASSING OFFENSE: F — Carson Palmer threw four interceptions and for the second straight week piled up statistics (24-for-42, 245 yards, one touchdown) well after the game was decided. Wide receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey had three early drops but ended up leading the Raiders with five receptions for 78 yards, while tight end Kevin Boss had five catches for 43 yards.
RUSHING OFFENSE: D — Lead back Michael Bush couldn’t get on track for the third consecutive week, needing 23 carries to gain 78 yards. Bush averaged 3.4 yards per carry and the Raiders had no gain longer than 10 yards (a 10-yard scramble by Palmer, a 10-yard reverse by Louis Murphy).
PASS DEFENSE: D — By the time the Raiders generated any real pressure on Aaron Rodgers (he was sacked three times), the game was already out of hand. Jordy Nelson got loose behind Stanford Routt for a 37-yard touchdown. Mike Mitchell made had an impressive end zone interception where he won a struggle for the ball with tight end Jermichael Finley.
RUSH DEFENSE: F — A running game the Raiders hoped to stuff averaged 5.7 yards per carry (24 carries 136 yards). Ryan Grant had 10 carries for 85 yards and broke to his left for a 47-yard score on his first carry to get the Packers off and running. John Kuhn, a plodder, had 46 yards on 10 carries.
SPECIAL TEAMS: D — Punter Shane Lechler had a 44.2 yard net with a long of 71 yards and placed two punts inside the 20. He also threw an incomplete pass to a wide-open Rock Cartwright on a fourth-down play. There were no field goal attempts, nothing above average in terms of kickoff or punt returns.
COACHING: F — A complete failure to achieve any of the goals outlined before the game that would enable the Raiders to upset, let alone be competitive, with the NFL’s best team.
December 13th, 2011 at 5:01 am
Bottom line…. Just beat Detroit ….
We must win this Sunday…. The Defense will have to step up….
December 13th, 2011 at 5:03 am
Good Morning Raidersssss…..
We’re still in this….. Just win….
December 13th, 2011 at 5:19 am
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 6:58 pm
All of Hue’s words above is empty rhetoric. The penalties are the same week in and week out. No excuse.
The defense is garbage. If all his lineman are getting double teamed (sure Hue)….then the linebackers should just be flying all over the field and smashing people.
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Exactly. Hue is full of broken record rhetoric, lip-service, and BS.
Same with the players — rewind back to what they said in Corkran’s blog pre-Dolphins, and then pre-Packers, and what they’re saying again pre-Lions.
December 13th, 2011 at 5:23 am
I.e., the players are mailing it in, playing without committed belief, just hope — hoping things fall their way, hoping for wins and hoping for Broncos losses. And the coaches just trot out there with the same schemes and plays on O and D down after down, and the players see themselves getting beaten up (on O the three and outs, on D the gashed big rushing plays and the converted 3rd and longs) and know deep down they’re not gonna win, mail it in during a game.
December 13th, 2011 at 5:31 am
I heard some clips from Romo going off last night and i think other former Raiders should do the same. There is no passion or effort from a lot of guys on this team.
I agree with Romo, there are guys out there that would give anything to play this game for a stick of gum.
Way too many overpaid players on this roster and no fight in them. The new GM needs to do some serious evaluating!
December 13th, 2011 at 5:57 am
Also Heard Romo calling out some of the Raiders , like Seymour and McClain….. They have to step up…if Seymour says the Raiders are getting worse than call out those that are mailing it in…. The Last 2 games have looked like the # 2 ( Russell) yrs again….the defense looks confused… The Talents there.. They need to focus ..
December 13th, 2011 at 6:59 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
One game at a time…One game at a time!
December 13th, 2011 at 7:02 am
IT’S NOT A SPRINT,IT’S A MARATHON…
December 13th, 2011 at 7:06 am
Seymour Bush Says:
Any GM coming in here is going to want his own people who share his style and player philosophy and views. The chances that Jackson would remain would be very very very slim.
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No complaints here. And I guarantee you Hue would never be a head coach again, just like Tom Cable. These guys are only head coaches in Oakland because Al could no longer attract quality HCs here. He was too meddling, and would fire them without paying them what was due.
Hue is a good offensive coach. Other than that, he’s just a Rooney Rule candidate. Some people here are just blind to the obvious.
December 13th, 2011 at 7:08 am
If there was no 1st half we would have won the game 16-15 lol
December 13th, 2011 at 7:10 am
GG Says:
Same with the players — rewind back to what they said in Corkran’s blog pre-Dolphins, and then pre-Packers, and what they’re saying again pre-Lions.
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This is what they were apparently saying before the GB game:
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Posted Dec. 11, 2011 @ 1:57 p.m. ET
By PFW staff
• According to a source, some veterans were skeptical of Raiders head coach Hue Jackson’s decision to allow MLB Rolando McClain to play in Week 13 against the Dolphins. McClain had missed the entire week of practice leading up to the game, as he was away from the team while attending his grandfather’s funeral. While away, the second-year pro was also arrested on assault and weapons charges. Though McClain led the team in tackles in that game vs. Miami, the rest of the defense didn’t play well, and the source states that Jackson’s credibility in the locker room among veterans took a hit by not sitting the linebacker following his off-field issues.
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It amazes me that some fans are willing to wait until this gets a lot worse, after all the crap we’ve been through for nearly a decade now. The opportunity is finally here to bring in good coaching. But they’d rather keep Hue for the sake of consistency, even if it’s bad consistency.
December 13th, 2011 at 7:13 am
Mornin’ Nation.
Anyone else find it sadly funny that if Al had followed his “pick the best athelete” formula in 2010, we’d have ended up with Jason Pierre-Paul, currently causing nightmares for QBs all over the league, instead of McClain? Man.
December 13th, 2011 at 7:13 am
It amazes me that some fans are willing to wait until this gets a lot worse, after all the crap we’ve been through for nearly a decade now. The opportunity is finally here to bring in good coaching. But they’d rather keep Hue for the sake of consistency, even if it’s bad consistency.
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I tend to agree.
I will say if Hue gets the team into the playoffs, all is forgiven (until next season).
But if they miss the playoffs, I hope the first thing the new GM does is bring in his own crew.
December 13th, 2011 at 7:15 am
Blackmamba_20 Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 10:00 pm
Yeah our next draft looking pretty slim right now, and very unexciting to watch on the first day….
We have had some success in later rounds of late
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Umm..the only thing for us to watch on the first day is who everybody else picks.
December 13th, 2011 at 7:19 am
AGREE THAT HUE IS IN OVER HIS HEAD,BUT ANOTHER EX-COACH HAS TO WANT TO COME HERE.COWHER,GRUDEN TYPES HAVE CUSHY TV JOBS MAKING GOOD MONEY.ITS EASY TO SAY BRING IN ANOTHER COACH,DO U WANT IT TO BE THE SAME OLD CABLE-LANCE-NORV-ART CIRCLE JERK,2 YRS AND OUT ..
December 13th, 2011 at 7:20 am
Mitchell did play well. That was a nice pick and blanking Finley is something. I believe he did get called on an incredibly bogus PI call where he had good coverage and the receiver ran into him. Nothing he can do about that though.
Des Bryant was the other guy who stood out to me in that game.
December 13th, 2011 at 7:21 am
Des Bryant was the other guy who stood out to me in that game.
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Unless Seymour or Kelly step up their games, I’d ditch one, move Houston into that spot and make Bryant the permanent LDE next season.
December 13th, 2011 at 7:21 am
I say next year we Stick with Hue and bring in a new DC and see what happens when Palmer is surrounded by healthy playmakers.
December 13th, 2011 at 7:25 am
Couple of comments…
1. I wanted us to draft JPP, and was predicting that would be Al’s pick for that same reason – athletic freak. Shame.
2. #223 by RaidingTexas…good quote there. I think Hue at some point after Al’s passing started to tick the players off with his personnel decisions. The players don’t appear to be generally enthused with him for varying reasons.
3. RaidingTexas #221, i guess in hindsight this is bordering on truth. Hue did a great job as OC in 2010, and I still like him, or aspects of him, but after the grind of a full season as HC, and all the mistakes he’s made, your post has some merit.
4. And thus, #225, SilverNBlackPA, yeah, i think next year will be a watershed moment. A GM brought in, no Al at all (Al still has his fingerprints on the roster and coaching hires), and thus potentially will see the GM fully evaluate the roster and coaches and proceed with his own direction, with or without Hue, the bigger importance is the GM.
December 13th, 2011 at 7:26 am
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
AGREE THAT HUE IS IN OVER HIS HEAD,BUT ANOTHER EX-COACH HAS TO WANT TO COME HERE.COWHER,GRUDEN TYPES HAVE CUSHY TV JOBS MAKING GOOD MONEY.ITS EASY TO SAY BRING IN ANOTHER COACH,DO U WANT IT TO BE THE SAME OLD CABLE-LANCE-NORV-ART CIRCLE JERK,2 YRS AND OUT ..
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Yeah, I agree about Cowher and Gruden. They aren’t going back to coaching. I would like to see Del Rio, but I gotta feeling he’ll be headed to KC or Miami soon.
December 13th, 2011 at 7:28 am
So, Nation…I’m actually a little optimstic about the Detroit game despite the fiasco of the last two weeks.
Consider:
-Detroit doesn’t have much of a run game. I know scrubs have ran for 15,000 yards on us in the past, but Detroit’s backups are the scrubbiest of the scrubs.
-Stafford is a lot like a young Carson Palmer. He can dominate when on a roll, but he also has that gunslinger mentality and can be an INT machine when he tries to force it.
-Detroit’s offensive line can be shaky in pass protection.
-Their starting corners are good enough, but their secondary has little depth. If Ford and Moore are back, a lot of 3 and 4 WR sets could do big things.
-Mitchell should hopefully be able to shut down Brandon Pettigrew like he shut down Finley
-Their run defense is ranked only two spots above ours, so Bush should find more room to run.
Detroit’s two biggest weapons are Megatron and their pass rush. Megatron is going to get his yards and catches; if the secondary can at least keep him contained and if the offensive line can keep Palmer on his feet, I think the Raiders win this game.
December 13th, 2011 at 7:29 am
HairyBush Says:
I say next year we Stick with Hue and bring in a new DC and see what happens when Palmer is surrounded by healthy playmakers.
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If it goes that direction, I just hope it is a strong-willed DC who can command the defensive players’ attention when they start losing faith in Hue again.
December 13th, 2011 at 7:31 am
YA THINK HOWIE WOULD LEAVE HIS TV GIG TO COME BACK TO THE RAIDERS ?NEVER BEEN A COACH,BUT..
December 13th, 2011 at 7:33 am
Btw, a problem that Mike Florio pointed about Hue Jackson and a new GM…Hue’s contract states he reports directly to the Owner. Now that the owner has passed away, a GM stepping in could end up creating problems if Hue gets pushy about that. Which could mean the GM is forced to fire Hue to remove that hitch. Unless Hue decides to not take issue with that and is happy to answer to a GM.
December 13th, 2011 at 7:36 am
GG,
I think Amy could just have Hue sign off on some sort of addendum to the contract stating he has to answer to the GM now.
If Hue falls flat and we miss playoffs, it will be like “sign or go elsewhere” Hue. He’ll sign.
December 13th, 2011 at 7:37 am
MAY BE AN ISSUE,WITH HUE SWINGING THE BIG STICK RIGHT NOW.PROBABLY WONT WANT TO GIVE THAT UP.
December 13th, 2011 at 7:37 am
I say next year we Stick with Hue and bring in a new DC and see what happens when Palmer is surrounded by healthy playmakers.
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100% agreed.
December 13th, 2011 at 7:40 am
ONE THING FOR SURE WILL CONTINUE,DUMB PENALTYS..ALWAYS HAS,ALWAYS WILL.
December 13th, 2011 at 7:44 am
GG Says:
3. RaidingTexas #221, i guess in hindsight this is bordering on truth. Hue did a great job as OC in 2010, and I still like him, or aspects of him, but after the grind of a full season as HC, and all the mistakes he’s made, your post has some merit.
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Another point I would add to that #221: I wonder if some people think that Al still had that magic to find a talented assistant and turn him into a head coach. Look at the record since Shanahan:
Art Shell – a couple of good seasons, possible Super Bowl derailed by the Bo Jackson injury. Second time around (2006), the worst season in recent memory.
Mike White – LMAO
Joe Bugel – LMAO
Jon Gruden – Hmmm, I like Jon. I want to believe he was a great coach. But how much of that was also Rich Gannon playing elite during those years? Jon left and won a Super Bowl with Tony Dungee’s team and the Raiders playbook. He never did sht after that.
Bill Callahan – Went to a disastrous Super Bowl with Rich Gannon at QB. Had another forgettable season in Oakland, then went on to glory in the cornfields.
Norv Turner – This guy had better be putting his SD home on the market soon. Great offensive coordinator when he has Aikman, Emmitt, Irvin and Novacek at his disposal. A mediocre head coach at best.
Lane Kiffin – Proved what a snake he is at Tennessee. Al didn’t pick up on this guy’s character defects.
Tom Cable – Went from head coach back to line coach . . . in Seattle. He may get another shot, but I doubt it. He has to prove that he won’t punch people any more.
So, taking all of this in, what makes anyone think Al’s magic was still there when he “found” Hue Jackson?
December 13th, 2011 at 7:45 am
227.DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 7:19 am
AGREE THAT HUE IS IN OVER HIS HEAD,BUT ANOTHER EX-COACH HAS TO WANT TO COME HERE.COWHER,GRUDEN TYPES HAVE CUSHY TV JOBS MAKING GOOD MONEY.ITS EASY TO SAY BRING IN ANOTHER COACH,DO U WANT IT TO BE THE SAME OLD CABLE-LANCE-NORV-ART CIRCLE JERK,2 YRS AND OUT ..
Thank you!
December 13th, 2011 at 7:46 am
Which leads to the question of where Hue and a few of the players stand as far as their stock among the other 31?
-Bush. Imo his stock is plummeting with 2.9 yds. a carry last few games. Getting the handoff and falling forward is not helping his case that he’s a “premier” rb worth big $. Plus, other GM’s see he can’t block on pass protect. That’s huge. He would’ve been better served if DMAC came back and he left us with memories of 100 yd. games. Each game Bush plays hurts his chances for big deal next year.
-DMAC. Who wants a guy who has been injured AT LEAST 1/4 of EACH of his first four seasons? There’s some value there but GM’s must be wary of him.
Stock RISING:
-J. Campbell. His 13-7 record with Oak. and good game “management” bode well for him. Plus, the offense scores alot of points with him as QB. He’ll be a starter somewhere.
December 13th, 2011 at 7:53 am
Now even the media is questioning R Seymour. Better late than never guys, you’re only 3 months behind me. I see you in my rear view.
Bill Romo said you almost have to try and not have 1 tackle in a game!
R Seymour is a DT and didn’t register a tackle?????
December 13th, 2011 at 7:54 am
7:54 ?
December 13th, 2011 at 7:54 am
2 very bad games and “sack Hue” calls.No doubt you were saying this after beating San-Die,Minny and the Bears.
December 13th, 2011 at 7:55 am
Gerard:
Definitely agree about McFadden. His cap hit this season is over $8 million. The team got 113 rushing attempts out of him (he’s not coming back this season). This guy will probably leave Oakland having made $60 million while averaging less than 200 carries per season. That’s a terrible return on investment.
Bush? I don’t know, man. He’s not built like a featured back. I would never expect a guy his size to be as agile as a (healthy) McFadden. He is what he is. I don’t fault him for it. He’s an awesome second weapon, though. I bet nearly 30 other teams would like to have him as a backup. He is probably overpaid, though.
Campbell? Well, he can’t play right now. So his stock is going nowhere IMO.
December 13th, 2011 at 7:55 am
Anyone got a link to what Romo said?
December 13th, 2011 at 7:56 am
SEYMOUR WAS DBL TEAMED,HUE SAY’S.ALONG WITH EVERYONE ELSE..
December 13th, 2011 at 7:56 am
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what goes on in there.
# YoungAmerican Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 7:34 pm
Coaching stability is one of the most important ingredients to building a contending team.
Good, stable organizations don’t panic when their rookie head coach immediately takes his team to playoff contention. Particularly when said rookie head coach A) did not have any say over the roster for the first five weeks of the season, B) is saddled with a UFL defensive coordinator and players who seem to be here simply to collect checks, making far more than their performance warrants, C) is dealing with season-ending injuries to his starting QB, starting WRs, starting RB, and starting RDE, D) generally has a dearth of talent and depth at almost every position. Sure, every team has injuries, but good teams overcome them. Thing is, this isn’t a team that has enough talent to overcome that many injuries.
Hard to blame Hue for the penalties or lack of discipline when those are problems that have existed for over two decades now, no matter who the coaching staff is.
Has Hue made mistakes? Of course. He’s not perfect. Some of the gameplans, particularly offensively, have definitely been flawed. A good coach, however, will learn from those things. Hue also has to be the de facto GM, and had to assume those responsibilities midway through the season. That’s asking a lot of a guy who just got his first head coaching gig.
Hue will get another season at the helm, but he’ll get a GM to take some of the responsibilities off his shoulders. And he’ll have a full training camp and offseason with which to build up a team that, quite frankly, is not very talented. Certainly not talented enough for a deep playoff run. The “fire Hue” stuff is misguided to put it lightly.
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Voice of reason is that you???
Finally someone who gets it…
Every single one of you idiots who are calling for Hue’s head have absolutely NO CLUE what this man has gone through this year. He hasn’t just been through the standard normal rookie coach thing (which in itself is a massive adjustment)….Sure, we looked like isht for a few games this year. I get that. But to FIRE the guy after 1 season? Are you kidding me? You morons are acting like Al Davis..Hue deserves 3 more years to get this thing turned around. I guarantee we will be contenders next year and beyond if so, Hell, were contenders now. Just because teams are handing Denver games and Denver is suddenly the luckiest goddamn team to play in the NFL in the last 25 years doesn’t mean this thing is over by a “damn sight….”
Just sit back and lets this season play out..half you guys sound like a bunch of entitled 5 year olds trying to comprehend why you can’t always get what you want…but mommy/daddy I want it real bad..
Quit your crying and watch the season unfold.
December 13th, 2011 at 7:58 am
Love the hit Kelly layed on Rogers, droplet eyes face about popped out of helmet. Lol need more of that. I believe it’s time to dislocate a qbs shoulder.!!!!!
December 13th, 2011 at 8:01 am
TRUE COMEDY
December 13th, 2011 at 8:04 am
I agree to give Hue a chance, but I don’t buy the rookie HC fallback. Hue inherited an 8-8 team on the rise, not a bottom dweller with little hope. He was brought up to take this team to the next level THIS YEAR, and remember, Hue is not new to the org. either.
Hate to say it but look at Harbaugh. Isn’t he a “rookie” HC? That’s just one example.
The injuries he’s had to deal with and the QB going down are legit so I think Hue deserves at least another shot.
One thing though, the “injury excuse” cannot be used forever cuz EVERY TEAM has injuries and Raiders will have them next year too.
December 13th, 2011 at 8:06 am
I’m not a big fan of Jackson, that’s for sure, but another thing to remember is how much harder the schedule is this year from last.
Not that it’s a tough schedule, but it IS way tougher than last year.
December 13th, 2011 at 8:09 am
Another thing, if anyone thinks we would have won 3 games in a row and NOT lost 5 in a row now with Kyle friggin Boller at QB instead of Carson Palmer, is delusional.
The deal for Palmer has us in a playoff race. What happens from here on out is anyone’s guess.
December 13th, 2011 at 8:10 am
Neilb Says:
2 very bad games and “sack Hue” calls.No doubt you were saying this after beating San-Die,Minny and the Bears.
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My comment as the Vikings game ended:
RaidingTexas Says:
November 20th, 2011 at 1:25 pm
The win is good, but Hue is still showing he isn’t head coach material. This team fails to adjust in the second half week in and week out.
And who the fk calls a timeout with one minute left when you have the ball, you’re winning, and the other team can’t stop the clock? How is he a head coach in this league? Just mind boggling.
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I wasn’t here for the Bears game. I’m not going to waste time going further back to the SD game. I think I’ve proven my point to you. I’m consistent with my dislike of Hue. Any questions?
December 13th, 2011 at 8:11 am
Difference: Harbaugh inherited a team with already a good D in place, and a week schedule in a week division. Granted I did not think that the Seahawks or Rams would fall off like they did, but…Harbaugh added an Offensive scheme and made Alex Smith not make mistakes (until they got exposed by the Ravens).
Hue inherited the team that he helped build on offense, and a crap D!
December 13th, 2011 at 8:14 am
The most damning thing imo in regard to Hue is the way this team has been annhilated and embarrassed these last two CRITICAL games of the season.
Everyhting on the line and he trots out a team that performs abysmally when it counts the most.
That being said, he still has a chance to redeem himself these last 3 games. Even if we lose all 3 I say you have to bring him back next year. He deserves a full off season with his new QB etc.
December 13th, 2011 at 8:25 am
Gerard Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 10:47 pm
Quotes I lean on for inspiration:
-”This ones on me”. You could even add an emphatic “PERIOD” for greater weight and confidence. You say “Period” and this time u really mean it.
-”There’s no one in that locker room who is giving up”
-”We just have to take care of our own business and not worry about what anybody else is doing”.
-”We need to play better”.
-”These guys don’t blink”
-”We will fix this” (this particular statement has been used after every single loss, and some wins this season).
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Don’t forget, “I think they understand that now.”
December 13th, 2011 at 8:28 am
If we come out looking like crap this Sunday, at HOME…then we know the problem is there!
December 13th, 2011 at 8:32 am
been a raider fan since 1974 and it seems like players played every week particularly the WR’s (c branch, freddy b etc. seems like the players of today are missing enormous amount of games for injuries that the players of yesteryear played through. and the game was more brutal back then.
December 13th, 2011 at 8:33 am
I cannot believe Hue said all the defensive linemen were doubleteamed all the time. Last I checked, the Raiders played with 4 linemen and there were 5 offensive linemen. Where are the phantom 3 coming from?
December 13th, 2011 at 8:34 am
I guarantee we will be contenders next year and beyond if so, Hell, were contenders now. Just because teams are handing Denver games and Denver is suddenly the luckiest goddamn team to play in the NFL in the last 25 years doesn’t mean this thing is over by a “damn sight….”
Just sit back and lets this season play out..half you guys sound like a bunch of entitled 5 year olds trying to comprehend why you can’t always get what you want…but mommy/daddy I want it real bad..
Quit your crying and watch the season unfold.
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Wish I could just slap “LA to TheBay” on that post and call it mine.
December 13th, 2011 at 8:35 am
The phantom 3 came from whatever he was smoking…
December 13th, 2011 at 8:36 am
Hwn, I’m not tryin to be a wise guy but I think the problem is already there.
December 13th, 2011 at 8:38 am
I agree, Mista…I guess I meant to say, we will confirm where the problem is!
December 13th, 2011 at 8:38 am
“All of our defensive linemen get double-teamed,” Jackson said. “Those are some big guys we have. So they get double-teamed. They get grabbed, they get pulled. They get a little bit of everything.”
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I doubt he meant on each play.
December 13th, 2011 at 8:39 am
LA to TheBay Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 8:38 am
“All of our defensive linemen get double-teamed,” Jackson said. “Those are some big guys we have. So they get double-teamed. They get grabbed, they get pulled. They get a little bit of everything.”
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I doubt he meant on each play.
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Then that means they’re also getting singled up a lot of the time.
His excuses are about as lame as his coaching.
December 13th, 2011 at 8:40 am
Again stop comparing Hue to the coach across the Bay, a pretty good D is coaches best friend , unless you are Mike Nolan or Mike Singletary then you know what to do when you have a great D , thats giving up the least amount of points in the League….
December 13th, 2011 at 8:41 am
Nah, he meant it…he’s running out of excuses!
Quick question…will Sunday’s game sell out based on the crap we have seen the past 2 weekends?
December 13th, 2011 at 8:42 am
Harbaugh inherited a team that was projected to win 10+ games last year, that under performed mightily and finished 5-11. All he did was come in, install an offense (which Singletary, a LB coach, was unable to do) that protected Alex Smith from himself and Boom, they are playing winning football. Hue Jackson would have done the same thing over there (think I’m wrong? he has us playing winning football for the most part with the leagues WORST defense).
I can not for the life of me fathom all this talk of Hue’s ‘ego’ I don’t see it, I see a guy who is confident in his TEAM DESPITE the fact that they have played like the Art Shell Raiders instead of the current team. I see a coach who despite having the leagues WORST defense has us in contention, a ROOKIE HC who has one of the WORST teams over the last decade in contention first year.
Oh, and ProFootballTalk has articles of locker room rebellion? They did 5 weeks ago too, but they disappeared when we won 3 in a row. Florio is a gossip peddler who ALWAYS jumps at the change to take shots at ANY team who is down on their luck, but absolutely LOVES sh!tting on the Raiders. Most of you guys realize this but are blinded by your anger at seeing some of the same old tendencies re-emerge, but you ignore the fact that its the same old players with the same mentality and same culture that Al bred.
December 13th, 2011 at 8:42 am
hwnrdr Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 8:41 am
Nah, he meant it…he’s running out of excuses!
Quick question…will Sunday’s game sell out based on the crap we have seen the past 2 weekends?
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I think a blackout is pretty much guaranteed unless Mark Davis ponies up for the unsold tickets
December 13th, 2011 at 8:42 am
If hue lost the locker room….he has to go period….this is the NFL and when a coach loses a locker room he can never regain it…remember that
December 13th, 2011 at 8:43 am
I see a guy who is confident in his TEAM DESPITE the fact that they have played like the Art Shell Raiders instead of the current team
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A good coach doesn’t let his team play like the Art Shell 2006 Raiders AT ALL EVER, let alone 3 times this season. (KC, Miami, Green Bay and you could argue the Denver home game belongs there too)
December 13th, 2011 at 8:44 am
Good Morning Bcz…I am always skeptical with “A Source says…”
December 13th, 2011 at 8:45 am
270.hwnrdr Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 8:41 am
Nah, he meant it…he’s running out of excuses!
Quick question…will Sunday’s game sell out based on the crap we have seen the past 2 weekends?
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I’ll be there so who cares about a blackout
December 13th, 2011 at 8:46 am
273.Method To My Madness Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 8:42 am
If hue lost the locker room….he has to go period….this is the NFL and when a coach loses a locker room he can never regain it…remember that
And that is what happened in ‘03 with that “Dumbest team in America” comment…there was no way Callahan could have regained the locker room!
And wasn’t Woodson (Charles, since we still had Rod here also) the one that led the rebellion?
December 13th, 2011 at 8:47 am
Agreed, B! Blackout doesn’t concern me, either!
December 13th, 2011 at 8:48 am
Obviously.
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Method To My Madness Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 8:42 am
If hue lost the locker room….he has to go period….this is the NFL and when a coach loses a locker room he can never regain it…remember that
December 13th, 2011 at 8:48 am
Here’s another thing I hang on Hue: not firing Chuck B.
If a team can schitcan a head coach, they can damn sure get rid of a co-ordinator. Tell Waufle or Woodson to take over for the rest of the season. They surely couldn’t do any worse and if they improve, hire them for next season. if not, then go find someone else.
Hue is letting Bresnahan drag him to the bottom.
December 13th, 2011 at 8:49 am
And how lucky can SF get? Big Ben hurt and James Harrison suspended…geez…
December 13th, 2011 at 8:49 am
I’m sorry but I have a hard time believing that Hue meant every DL was getting doubled every play.
It is HILARIOUS to me that he is getting drilled in here for NOT calling out his players in public. Show me ONE currently employed head coach in the NFL that called out his players in public. You CANT because it doesn’t happen. In the NFL you keep your sh1t in house. Period.
December 13th, 2011 at 8:50 am
Waufle hs stated that he doesn’t want it…and not sure about Rod jumping in at that position, but for an interim…maybe
December 13th, 2011 at 8:51 am
And that is what happened in ‘03 with that “Dumbest team in America” comment…there was no way Callahan could have regained the locker room!
And wasn’t Woodson (Charles, since we still had Rod here also) the one that led the rebellion?
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Yeah… but lets publicly call out the players.
December 13th, 2011 at 8:51 am
hwnrdr Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 8:50 am
Waufle hs stated that he doesn’t want it…and not sure about Rod jumping in at that position, but for an interim…maybe
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That’s all it would be for Waufle or Woodson–an interim.
Even if they don’t improve the defense, it would show some kind of accountability for a poor performance.
December 13th, 2011 at 8:51 am
Raiding Texas……..
Nope,no more questions.If it sounded like I was calling you out then that was my bad.
December 13th, 2011 at 8:53 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 8:48 am
Here’s another thing I hang on Hue: not firing Chuck B.
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Maybe he has approached Mark and Amy about this and they told him no. He has enough on his plate as it is to let go of the DC too. Hue clearly doesnt have a strong defensive background so maybe he is smart enough to know that, as bad as Chuck is, he isn’t going to do any better without him.
December 13th, 2011 at 8:53 am
Reasons why we’re got blown out last couple of games.
1. Our D Sucks.
2. 3 of the top 5 O players out.
3. Bush is worn out after all those carries during 3 game win streak n he ain’t do ish anymore
4. We have no true #1 Wr, no True #2 WR , we got a bunch of # 3 players and # 6 Housh playing right now
5. Our TE sucks as well
6. Combine 2-5 n your QB doesn’t have help to score even 2 touchdowns…
7. combine 1-6 n you have a QB who thinks he have to score on almost every possession to keep the team in it , but because we have scrubs at WR position , RUnning back who’s not getting yards anymore leads to turnovers , 3 n outs
8. combine all 7 together n u get blown out…
December 13th, 2011 at 8:55 am
hwnrdr Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 8:49 am
And how lucky can SF get? Big Ben hurt and James Harrison suspended…geez…
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Hwnrdr, SF wouldve beaten them with those chumps playing… Those douches BARELY beat the Chefs and the Brown-stains!!… F@ck Sh!ttsburgh!!!
December 13th, 2011 at 8:55 am
282.bcz24 Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 8:49 am
I’m sorry but I have a hard time believing that Hue meant every DL was getting doubled every play.
It is HILARIOUS to me that he is getting drilled in here for NOT calling out his players in public. Show me ONE currently employed head coach in the NFL that called out his players in public. You CANT because it doesn’t happen. In the NFL you keep your sh1t in house. Period.
I agree, not publicly…but, if I was Hue, I’ll be ripping Bresh and the entire team for playing like crap! However, if he already lost the locker room, that could be the end of that!
December 13th, 2011 at 8:56 am
Really, now it’s fire Hue time. You guys are worse than the press.
The impatience of the fans and the media these days would have ended hall of fame coaching careers before they ever got started. Guys like Chuck Knoll, Jimmy Johnson, Bill Bellicheat, Dick Vermeil, Bill Walsh and others would have never made it out of their second season.
Do you really think a HC is what is keeping this team from greatness? How many coaches have we tried since Gruden left?
Is Hue jumping offsides every time a QB changes his cadence? Did Hue call slip dog forty, force the ball to the covered receiver on three? I just don’t get it. It hasn’t even been a full year and we are ready to roll heads and start over again? Really?
Let me ask you guys something, do you really think firing Hue is going to stop the penalty problem that has plagued this franchise for as long as I’ve been watching? Do you think firing Hue is going to get our 1st and 2nd rounders back for Palmer? Do you think firing Hue will get us out of Palmer’s contract?
Two weeks ago we looked like we were going to win the AFC West for the first time since 2002 and after two losses (that have showed us how far we still have to go) you want to blow it up and start all over again?
Lets wait a bit before we make another HC walk the plank. Lets give him a DC of his choosing and see what he can do in year two and year three.
Al Davis always said it’s not about the scheme, it’s about the players and our players are the most talented, least intelligent group around.
Not sure how you coach these guys to stop making the same stupid mistakes over and over. I’m pretty sure it either involves making some tough cuts or being patient. Being patient, what a novel idea.
December 13th, 2011 at 8:57 am
289.Raider-in-PA Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 8:55 am
hwnrdr Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 8:49 am
And how lucky can SF get? Big Ben hurt and James Harrison suspended…geez…
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Hwnrdr, SF wouldve beaten them with those chumps playing… Those douches BARELY beat the Chefs and the Brown-stains!!… F@ck Sh!ttsburgh!!!
I agree….F Pitt…but, I think they are still fighting for a division win…however, not sure if Baltimore will lose again either…
December 13th, 2011 at 8:57 am
Is Hue jumping offsides every time a QB changes his cadence? Did Hue call slip dog forty, force the ball to the covered receiver on three?
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It’s Hue’s job to, you know, be a coach and make sure those things don’t happen.
December 13th, 2011 at 8:59 am
I agree, not publicly…but, if I was Hue, I’ll be ripping Bresh and the entire team for playing like crap! However, if he already lost the locker room, that could be the end of that!
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How do you know he HASN’T?
December 13th, 2011 at 8:59 am
288.mcfadden20. Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 8:53 am
Reasons why we’re got blown out last couple of games.
1. Our D Sucks.
2. 3 of the top 5 O players out.
3. Bush is worn out after all those carries during 3 game win streak n he ain’t do ish anymore
4. We have no true #1 Wr, no True #2 WR , we got a bunch of # 3 players and # 6 Housh playing right now
5. Our TE sucks as well
6. Combine 2-5 n your QB doesn’t have help to score even 2 touchdowns…
7. combine 1-6 n you have a QB who thinks he have to score on almost every possession to keep the team in it , but because we have scrubs at WR position , RUnning back who’s not getting yards anymore leads to turnovers , 3 n outs
8. combine all 7 together n u get blown out…
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Excuses….you get paid to play and win regardless
December 13th, 2011 at 9:00 am
Instead of the fire Hue talk we should have a look at what Detroit did and get rid of 90% of the D players and fire UpChuck.
December 13th, 2011 at 9:00 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 8:43 am
I see a guy who is confident in his TEAM DESPITE the fact that they have played like the Art Shell Raiders instead of the current team
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A good coach doesn’t let his team play like the Art Shell 2006 Raiders AT ALL EVER, let alone 3 times this season. (KC, Miami, Green Bay and you could argue the Denver home game belongs there too)
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Are you kidding with me , so your saying the D letting the other team score a TD on the first freaking play was his fault?
December 13th, 2011 at 9:01 am
Here’s another thing I’m sick of: People whining about injuries. It’s the coach’s job to overcome injuries.
In 2008, New England lost Tom Brady for a season. They plugged in a guy who hadn’t started a game since high school and went 11-5.
In 2011, Indianapolis lost Peyton Manning for a season. They haven’t won a game yet.
In both instances, a team lost one of the Top 10 (if not Top 5) QBs to ever play the game. One kept rolling, one fell off a cliff.
The difference? COACHING.
Players get injured all the time across the league. Every team suffers from key guys gone for weeks. A competent coach could overcome that. Hue Jackson, like Jim Caldwell, is not a competent coach.
December 13th, 2011 at 9:02 am
294.bcz24 Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 8:59 am
I agree, not publicly…but, if I was Hue, I’ll be ripping Bresh and the entire team for playing like crap! However, if he already lost the locker room, that could be the end of that!
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How do you know he HASN’T?
I’m sure he has…just saying
December 13th, 2011 at 9:03 am
Are you kidding with me , so your saying the D letting the other team score a TD on the first freaking play was his fault?
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It’s his job to instill the discipline in his players to make sure that doesn’t happen.
December 13th, 2011 at 9:03 am
S&BPA…perfect example…the Texans! Who is their quarterback again? And they haven’t lost since that immaculate interception!
December 13th, 2011 at 9:04 am
with the Chiefs falling to 3-3 with the loss to the Chiefs.
Got all that?
MITCHELL SHINES
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Both make equal sense. I saw Mitchell on the field a lot. A lot of missed tackles, a lot of getting faked out a lot of being in the wrong place
December 13th, 2011 at 9:04 am
It’s Hue’s job to, you know, be a coach and make sure those things don’t happen
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Thats more bullsh1t man. These guys are professional goddamn football players. WTF do you want Hue to do? Go out on the field and stand there and say ok boys the ball got snapped now you can move? You want him to bench people? Ok… our backups get penalties, and their on field production is much worse… then what? Can’t fine or suspend the players. So what. What EXACTLY can Hue Jackson do? Someone. ANYONE come up with a reasonable answer to the penalty problem that has plagued this team since its inception.
December 13th, 2011 at 9:05 am
I’m out.
Have a great Tuesday everyone.
December 13th, 2011 at 9:05 am
hwnrdr Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:03 am
S&BPA…perfect example…the Texans! Who is their quarterback again? And they haven’t lost since that immaculate interception!
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Another good example. Besides losing both their first and second string QBs, Houston has also been without Mario Williams since the Raiders game and has had Andre Johnson and Arian Foster miss significant time.
All they did was shrug and keep on winning.
December 13th, 2011 at 9:06 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:01 am
Here’s another thing I’m sick of: People whining about injuries. It’s the coach’s job to overcome injuries.
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Al Davis built this roster NOT Hue Jackson. Al Davis has 50% of his salary cap tied up in 5 players. Al Davis left this team with ZERO depth. We all knew that back in training camp, and suddenly its Hue’s fault?
December 13th, 2011 at 9:07 am
hwnrdr, I hear you bro… Unfortunately, we know that one of those 2 teams in the AFC North are taking one of the wild cards… Crossing my fingers the Silver and Black can snag the other… I dont see Teblow and company losing 2 out of the last 3…
December 13th, 2011 at 9:07 am
Al Davis built this roster NOT Hue Jackson. Al Davis has 50% of his salary cap tied up in 5 players. Al Davis left this team with ZERO depth. We all knew that back in training camp, and suddenly its Hue’s fault?
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Did you actually read what I wrote? Good coaches overcome injuries.
I repeat, New England went 11-5 with Matt Cassel, who had not started a game since high school. How’s that for no depth?
Houston is rolling with their 3rd string rookie QB.
December 13th, 2011 at 9:08 am
Another good example. Besides losing both their first and second string QBs, Houston has also been without Mario Williams since the Raiders game and has had Andre Johnson and Arian Foster miss significant time.
All they did was shrug and keep on winning.
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Because their OWNER AND GM and HC (been there 5 years) built quality depth. Why dont you guys understand that?
December 13th, 2011 at 9:09 am
That right there is why I MISS football in the 70’s and early 80’s…when the players played because they LOVED the sport!
December 13th, 2011 at 9:10 am
And that is what happened in ‘03 with that “Dumbest team in America” comment…there was no way Callahan could have regained the locker room!
And wasn’t Woodson (Charles, since we still had Rod here also) the one that led the rebellion?
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Yeah, but if anything, Hue backs his players up publicly.
After any game, especially wins, players are always giving major credit to Hue.
I don’t think he’s lost the locker room, I think they played two sh;tty games and need to get back on track.
December 13th, 2011 at 9:10 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 8:59 am
288.mcfadden20. Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 8:53 am
Reasons why we’re got blown out last couple of games.
1. Our D Sucks.
2. 3 of the top 5 O players out.
3. Bush is worn out after all those carries during 3 game win streak n he ain’t do ish anymore
4. We have no true #1 Wr, no True #2 WR , we got a bunch of # 3 players and # 6 Housh playing right now
5. Our TE sucks as well
6. Combine 2-5 n your QB doesn’t have help to score even 2 touchdowns…
7. combine 1-6 n you have a QB who thinks he have to score on almost every possession to keep the team in it , but because we have scrubs at WR position , RUnning back who’s not getting yards anymore leads to turnovers , 3 n outs
8. combine all 7 together n u get blown out…
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Excuses….you get paid to play and win regardless
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Typical fan that doesn’t understand anything about the team but expect them to win every game because they get paid well the other teams get paid as well n having a bad D(CHuck B) alone is going to get you more losses than wins n combine that we don’t have Offensive firepower (Injuries) to Compensate for our Incompetant D , what we get is blow out losses but if our D was playing like Denvers, KC , SF than we can win no matter if we’re starting scrubs on O
December 13th, 2011 at 9:10 am
I repeat, New England went 11-5 with Matt Cassel, who had not started a game since high school. How’s that for no depth?
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Matt Cassell had been with the team for over 5 years, learning from one of the best qbs in the history of the league, with a championship roster top to bottom…
You REALLY want to compare this squad to the 2008 Patriots?
December 13th, 2011 at 9:11 am
307.Raider-in-PA Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:07 am
hwnrdr, I hear you bro… Unfortunately, we know that one of those 2 teams in the AFC North are taking one of the wild cards… Crossing my fingers the Silver and Black can snag the other… I dont see Teblow and company losing 2 out of the last 3…
I agree…I want the division, but getting there, and hopefully winning one will be great…but dammit, I also want a home game! I guess we’ll see how these last 3 weeks play out!
December 13th, 2011 at 9:12 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:07 am
Al Davis built this roster NOT Hue Jackson. Al Davis has 50% of his salary cap tied up in 5 players. Al Davis left this team with ZERO depth. We all knew that back in training camp, and suddenly its Hue’s fault?
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Did you actually read what I wrote? Good coaches overcome injuries.
I repeat, New England went 11-5 with Matt Cassel, who had not started a game since high school. How’s that for no depth?
Houston is rolling with their 3rd string rookie QB.
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I completely agree. Time for the excuses to stop. If the defense is playing poorly, the HEAD COACH needs to spend time on that side. All I have to say is this: did anyone actually watch the last two games? Or did all of you turn the game off after the lst twenty minutes? Not that I would blame any of you for that.
December 13th, 2011 at 9:12 am
Throughout American history, the President has gotten the blame or credit for the state of the country despite innumerable other factors beyond his control.
A general will get blamed for losing a battle even if he had a good plan that was bungled by incompetent subordinates.
A CEO will get replaced if a company suffers bad losses even though he’s not the one out there doing the actual work.
And so on. The buck always stops with the man in charge, fellas. As it should be.
December 13th, 2011 at 9:13 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:01 am
Here’s another thing I’m sick of: People whining about injuries. It’s the coach’s job to overcome injuries.
In 2008, New England lost Tom Brady for a season. They plugged in a guy who hadn’t started a game since high school and went 11-5.
In 2011, Indianapolis lost Peyton Manning for a season. They haven’t won a game yet.
In both instances, a team lost one of the Top 10 (if not Top 5) QBs to ever play the game. One kept rolling, one fell off a cliff.
The difference? COACHING.
Players get injured all the time across the league. Every team suffers from key guys gone for weeks. A competent coach could overcome that. Hue Jackson, like Jim Caldwell, is not a competent coach.
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LMFAO the D have a huge part in that , you know we are talking about COLTS D who allowed 70 plus points to Saints this year … so what you get when u have no qb n really bad D?
December 13th, 2011 at 9:13 am
I think Hue should get another year to do his thing.. Bring in HIS choice to replace Chuck B.. and replace some deadwood players with some quality..
Chuck B was Al’s doing… I still cant get over if it didnt work out with him 10 years ago, why would he even consider giving him a second go of it??? WTF??? Was it a cheap hire? If so, Al got what he paid for…
December 13th, 2011 at 9:13 am
Good coaches overcome injuries.
I repeat, New England went 11-5 with Matt Cassel, who had not started a game since high school. How’s that for no depth?
Houston is rolling with their 3rd string rookie QB.
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Aren’t we though?
7-6 without one of the best backs in the league and replacing your starting QB 6 weeks in with a semi-retired guy?
And should be better than that. KC, MIA, GB we got thumped. And that’s just that.
Buffalo and Denver, even with a somewhat competent defense/defensive coordinator we win easy.
Hue’s doing a good job.
2 ugly losses look bad right now. If he gets us in the playoffs with a MASH unit O and that… D, all is forgiven.
December 13th, 2011 at 9:14 am
If he gets us in the playoffs with a MASH unit O and that… D, all is forgiven.
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I agree here actually. If he gets the team to sack up and they pull their fat out of the fire, that will be a tremendous positive reflection on his coaching performance.
Right now, though, things ain’t lookin’ so hot.
December 13th, 2011 at 9:16 am
Right now, though, things ain’t lookin’ so hot.
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Same thing after Denver and people here were already calling it a year.
I feel same way now I did then.
December 13th, 2011 at 9:16 am
Seymour Bush Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:12 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:07 am
Al Davis built this roster NOT Hue Jackson. Al Davis has 50% of his salary cap tied up in 5 players. Al Davis left this team with ZERO depth. We all knew that back in training camp, and suddenly its Hue’s fault?
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Did you actually read what I wrote? Good coaches overcome injuries.
I repeat, New England went 11-5 with Matt Cassel, who had not started a game since high school. How’s that for no depth?
Houston is rolling with their 3rd string rookie QB.
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I completely agree. Time for the excuses to stop. If the defense is playing poorly, the HEAD COACH needs to spend time on that side. All I have to say is this: did anyone actually watch the last two games? Or did all of you turn the game off after the lst twenty minutes? Not that I would blame any of you for that.
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What you expect a Head Coach who’s expertise is on O to do with a Defense? throw out CHuck B’s Incompetent playbook outta the window and install a new one midway through the season? lmfao
December 13th, 2011 at 9:16 am
Mcfadden20. Says:
LMFAO the D have a huge part in that , you know we are talking about COLTS D who allowed 70 plus points to Saints this year … so what you get when u have no qb n really bad D?
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SilverNBlackPA left out the Green Bay Packers from last year. Didn’t they have like 15 guys on IR? And they aren’t known for defense. So that just kind of quashed your argument, didn’t it?
December 13th, 2011 at 9:17 am
3 weeks to prove yourself.
Sounds strange but it really is the perfect audition.
How do you handle a playoff race with three weeks left after two ugly losses?
The story will be told soon.
December 13th, 2011 at 9:17 am
312.mcfadden20. Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:10 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 8:59 am
288.mcfadden20. Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 8:53 am
Reasons why we’re got blown out last couple of games.
1. Our D Sucks.
2. 3 of the top 5 O players out.
3. Bush is worn out after all those carries during 3 game win streak n he ain’t do ish anymore
4. We have no true #1 Wr, no True #2 WR , we got a bunch of # 3 players and # 6 Housh playing right now
5. Our TE sucks as well
6. Combine 2-5 n your QB doesn’t have help to score even 2 touchdowns…
7. combine 1-6 n you have a QB who thinks he have to score on almost every possession to keep the team in it , but because we have scrubs at WR position , RUnning back who’s not getting yards anymore leads to turnovers , 3 n outs
8. combine all 7 together n u get blown out…
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Excuses….you get paid to play and win regardless
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Typical fan that doesn’t understand anything about the team but expect them to win every game because they get paid well the other teams get paid as well n having a bad D(CHuck B) alone is going to get you more losses than wins n combine that we don’t have Offensive firepower (Injuries) to Compensate for our Incompetant D , what we get is blow out losses but if our D was playing like Denvers, KC , SF than we can win no matter if we’re starting scrubs on O
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Mthafka who are you talking to? I’m not a fkin fan…never have and never will be one!
Expectations coming into year were winning division and making playoffs…before you posted your drivel or riding my CODE BLACK slogan i been saying no excuses this year….and you are making excuses patna
And talking about being paid…im not talking the big names only…im talking all the fkin players! Your job is to win….fk all that other schit!
December 13th, 2011 at 9:18 am
What you expect a Head Coach who’s expertise is on O to do with a Defense? throw out CHuck B’s Incompetent playbook outta the window and install a new one midway through the season? lmfao
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How about fire Chuck B and tell Waufle or Woodson to take over?
It may not change the results, but you know what? It’d show accountability for poor performance, something Hue has not done yet. See his handling of McClain for one example.
December 13th, 2011 at 9:19 am
324.LA to TheBay Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:17 am
3 weeks to prove yourself.
Sounds strange but it really is the perfect audition.
How do you handle a playoff race with three weeks left after two ugly losses?
The story will be told soon.
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No excuses at all bruh
December 13th, 2011 at 9:20 am
Since Al is gone (RIP), do you guys think coaching/GM canidates who might not have thought twice about working for Al will now see working in Oakland in a more positive light?
December 13th, 2011 at 9:20 am
Our injuries on O wouldn’t hurt as bad if we had atleast competent Defense….what do you expect team to score 30+? with bunch of scrubs on Wr position, a RB who have is clearly broken down after 5 weeks of heavy load , a TE who can’t get open ?
December 13th, 2011 at 9:21 am
Bcz24 I feel the same way.
It used to be a foregone conclusion that a high penalized team was just a poorly coached team. I think that can still be the case but I also now think the players need to bear the responsibility for the kinds of penalties we see week in and week out.
If it is just a case of poor coaching than why do the coaches change and the penalties stay the same with this team. The only constant is the players.
Tommy Kelly and Richard Seymour have been jumping offsides their entire Raider tenures. The only reasonable conclusion is Seymour must not have been coached very well by that Bellicheck guy since it’s his job to, you know, make sure that stuff doesn’t happen.
December 13th, 2011 at 9:22 am
No excuses at all bruh
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Bottom line right here.
December 13th, 2011 at 9:22 am
What you expect a Head Coach who’s expertise is on O to do with a Defense? throw out CHuck B’s Incompetent playbook outta the window and install a new one midway through the season? lmfao
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Dude, if a guy is the Head Coach of an NFL Franchise and he doesn’t understand offense, defense, or special teams, he has NO BUSINESS, being a head coach.
December 13th, 2011 at 9:23 am
michael bush aint worn down…..he would be fine if tonga was his lead back…this is on hue
December 13th, 2011 at 9:23 am
RaidingTexas Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:16 am
Mcfadden20. Says:
LMFAO the D have a huge part in that , you know we are talking about COLTS D who allowed 70 plus points to Saints this year … so what you get when u have no qb n really bad D?
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SilverNBlackPA left out the Green Bay Packers from last year. Didn’t they have like 15 guys on IR? And they aren’t known for defense. So that just kind of quashed your argument, didn’t it?
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Yeah they still played Good D , n they have a good D coordinator .. which we can only dream of n it’s easier to plug players on D than O if you have a really good scheme n you got a good freaking coach
December 13th, 2011 at 9:23 am
SilverNBlackPA left out the Green Bay Packers from last year. Didn’t they have like 15 guys on IR? And they aren’t known for defense. So that just kind of quashed your argument, didn’t it?
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You are glossing over a MAJOR factor in that. The Packers obviously have one of if not THE best QB in football, and QUALITY DEPTH… of which we do NOT have. Not Hue’s fault. Good teams overcome injuries because they have QUALITY depth.
December 13th, 2011 at 9:24 am
332.Seymour Bush Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:22 am
What you expect a Head Coach who’s expertise is on O to do with a Defense? throw out CHuck B’s Incompetent playbook outta the window and install a new one midway through the season? lmfao
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Dude, if a guy is the Head Coach of an NFL Franchise and he doesn’t understand offense, defense, or special teams, he has NO BUSINESS, being a head coach.
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exactly!
December 13th, 2011 at 9:25 am
LA To TheBay Says:
2 ugly losses look bad right now. If he gets us in the playoffs with a MASH unit O and that… D, all is forgiven.
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Well, three ugly losses if you’re talking about blowout losses. And three more mindboggling losses. And not a SINGLE blowout win.
Not sure if I already said this, but there are only two other teams in the AFC that have failed to win by two TDs or more this season: Colts and Browns. That’s really bad company, man. They couldn’t even win convincingly when the team was healthy early in the season.
And before anyone comes back with the “well, Jason Campbell was quarterback early in the season” argument, I should not have to remind you that the Raiders had 5 multiple TD margin victories last season with him as quarterback. FIVE!
The team has regressed with Hue Jackson as coach. The evidence is there.
December 13th, 2011 at 9:25 am
As I said, many people here will get all the excuses for HueSux, bottom line he set himself and the team for failure for making promises he couldn’t keep. The Raider Nation is not full of idiots, we are not here to eat up his BS, be straight and tell us the truth, don’t tell us you’re going to fix something, and then show up the next game worst than before. Don’t tell us “next man up,” and then give us a bunch of injury excuses, and worst yet trade for a loser like Palmer.
Don’t tell me that Bresnahan is the goat. Yes, he is and has been a terrible defensive coordinator, but HueSux is the HC, that means someone in charge of the whole team that needed to step in and fix the defensive faults. But HueSux is an average OC at best who was lucky to get this job when Harbaugh went to the 49rs. You mean to tell me that Al Davis wouldn’t have preferred Harbaugh over HueSux. Harbaugh had head coaching experience, albeit in college.xt HueSux was lucky to have worked under Cable, as bad as that sounds.
And you’re right, as much as many of us don’t like it, the Raiders are stuck with both HueSux and Palmer for the next year, same with Seymour and McClain. When your team leaders bag it, the BS flows through out the whole team, that’s what we’re witnessing right now, a whole team meltdown.
Again, the Texans lost their top defender Mario Williams (BTW in the Raiders game), their franchise QB for the season, the top WR in the league Andre Johnson (BTW didn’t play against the Raiders), and still are the #1 seed in the AFC winning with T.J. Yates. What? How? They have a HC worth the trouble.
December 13th, 2011 at 9:26 am
Seymour Bush Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:22 am
What you expect a Head Coach who’s expertise is on O to do with a Defense? throw out CHuck B’s Incompetent playbook outta the window and install a new one midway through the season? lmfao
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Dude, if a guy is the Head Coach of an NFL Franchise and he doesn’t understand offense, defense, or special teams, he has NO BUSINESS, being a head coach.
REALLY ? SO why do teams have O coordinators, D coordinators, Special teams coaches , position Coaches ? if your Coach can do it all , hey why not save money? just let your Coach take over all 3 sides , what a concept , i don’t know why alot of teams are not takin your advice
December 13th, 2011 at 9:27 am
Bcz24….not Hue’s fault? man he had alot to do with the personnel on this team…even when Al was alive my friend
December 13th, 2011 at 9:27 am
RaidingTexas Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:25 am
LA To TheBay Says:
2 ugly losses look bad right now. If he gets us in the playoffs with a MASH unit O and that… D, all is forgiven.
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Well, three ugly losses if you’re talking about blowout losses. And three more mindboggling losses. And not a SINGLE blowout win.
Not sure if I already said this, but there are only two other teams in the AFC that have failed to win by two TDs or more this season: Colts and Browns. That’s really bad company, man. They couldn’t even win convincingly when the team was healthy early in the season.
And before anyone comes back with the “well, Jason Campbell was quarterback early in the season” argument, I should not have to remind you that the Raiders had 5 multiple TD margin victories last season with him as quarterback. FIVE!
The team has regressed with Hue Jackson as coach. The evidence is there.
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You don’t win by blowouts if your D is letting the other team score on will tooo…… thought you guys were smart
December 13th, 2011 at 9:28 am
Hue sure was in a good mood in his press conf for a coach that is overseeing a epic meltdown. Hey coach you don’t need to laugh and cackle when asked a question.
This mope acts like he is on the Price is Right or Hollywood squares during his pressers!
smh
December 13th, 2011 at 9:28 am
337.RaidingTexas Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:25 am
LA To TheBay Says:
2 ugly losses look bad right now. If he gets us in the playoffs with a MASH unit O and that… D, all is forgiven.
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Well, three ugly losses if you’re talking about blowout losses. And three more mindboggling losses. And not a SINGLE blowout win.
Not sure if I already said this, but there are only two other teams in the AFC that have failed to win by two TDs or more this season: Colts and Browns. That’s really bad company, man. They couldn’t even win convincingly when the team was healthy early in the season.
And before anyone comes back with the “well, Jason Campbell was quarterback early in the season” argument, I should not have to remind you that the Raiders had 5 multiple TD margin victories last season with him as quarterback. FIVE!
The team has regressed with Hue Jackson as coach. The evidence is there.
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Man watch the palmer lovers go ape schit
December 13th, 2011 at 9:29 am
333.Method To My Madness Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:23 am
michael bush aint worn down…..he would be fine if tonga was his lead back…this is on hue
And that is my next question…was Tonga activated at all last week?
December 13th, 2011 at 9:30 am
341.mcfadden20. Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:27 am
RaidingTexas Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:25 am
LA To TheBay Says:
2 ugly losses look bad right now. If he gets us in the playoffs with a MASH unit O and that… D, all is forgiven.
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Well, three ugly losses if you’re talking about blowout losses. And three more mindboggling losses. And not a SINGLE blowout win.
Not sure if I already said this, but there are only two other teams in the AFC that have failed to win by two TDs or more this season: Colts and Browns. That’s really bad company, man. They couldn’t even win convincingly when the team was healthy early in the season.
And before anyone comes back with the “well, Jason Campbell was quarterback early in the season” argument, I should not have to remind you that the Raiders had 5 multiple TD margin victories last season with him as quarterback. FIVE!
The team has regressed with Hue Jackson as coach. The evidence is there.
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You don’t win by blowouts if your D is letting the other team score on will tooo…… thought you guys were smart
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The defense sucked last year and we got blowout wins….sorry your argument doesnt hold water
December 13th, 2011 at 9:30 am
zopi Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:25 am
As I said, many people here will get all the excuses for HueSux, bottom line he set himself and the team for failure for making promises he couldn’t keep. The Raider Nation is not full of idiots, we are not here to eat up his BS, be straight and tell us the truth, don’t tell us you’re going to fix something, and then show up the next game worst than before. Don’t tell us “next man up,” and then give us a bunch of injury excuses, and worst yet trade for a loser like Palmer.
Don’t tell me that Bresnahan is the goat. Yes, he is and has been a terrible defensive coordinator, but HueSux is the HC, that means someone in charge of the whole team that needed to step in and fix the defensive faults. But HueSux is an average OC at best who was lucky to get this job when Harbaugh went to the 49rs. You mean to tell me that Al Davis wouldn’t have preferred Harbaugh over HueSux. Harbaugh had head coaching experience, albeit in college.xt HueSux was lucky to have worked under Cable, as bad as that sounds.
And you’re right, as much as many of us don’t like it, the Raiders are stuck with both HueSux and Palmer for the next year, same with Seymour and McClain. When your team leaders bag it, the BS flows through out the whole team, that’s what we’re witnessing right now, a whole team meltdown.
Again, the Texans lost their top defender Mario Williams (BTW in the Raiders game), their franchise QB for the season, the top WR in the league Andre Johnson (BTW didn’t play against the Raiders), and still are the #1 seed in the AFC winning with T.J. Yates. What? How? They have a HC worth the trouble.
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again stupid post look no further than their quarterbacks name … lemme say it again … IF you have a Good D you can win in this league … Dilfer , Tebow, A Smith, n every year Steelers and Ravens
December 13th, 2011 at 9:31 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:30 am
341.mcfadden20. Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:27 am
RaidingTexas Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:25 am
LA To TheBay Says:
2 ugly losses look bad right now. If he gets us in the playoffs with a MASH unit O and that… D, all is forgiven.
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Well, three ugly losses if you’re talking about blowout losses. And three more mindboggling losses. And not a SINGLE blowout win.
Not sure if I already said this, but there are only two other teams in the AFC that have failed to win by two TDs or more this season: Colts and Browns. That’s really bad company, man. They couldn’t even win convincingly when the team was healthy early in the season.
And before anyone comes back with the “well, Jason Campbell was quarterback early in the season” argument, I should not have to remind you that the Raiders had 5 multiple TD margin victories last season with him as quarterback. FIVE!
The team has regressed with Hue Jackson as coach. The evidence is there.
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You don’t win by blowouts if your D is letting the other team score on will tooo…… thought you guys were smart
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The defense sucked last year and we got blowout wins….sorry your argument doesnt hold water
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sorry but our D is not even on last years level , it only got worse
December 13th, 2011 at 9:31 am
344.hwnrdr Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:29 am
333.Method To My Madness Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:23 am
michael bush aint worn down…..he would be fine if tonga was his lead back…this is on hue
And that is my next question…was Tonga activated at all last week?
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he got in..when it was 46-7
December 13th, 2011 at 9:32 am
347.mcfadden20. Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:31 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:30 am
341.mcfadden20. Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:27 am
RaidingTexas Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:25 am
LA To TheBay Says:
2 ugly losses look bad right now. If he gets us in the playoffs with a MASH unit O and that… D, all is forgiven.
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Well, three ugly losses if you’re talking about blowout losses. And three more mindboggling losses. And not a SINGLE blowout win.
Not sure if I already said this, but there are only two other teams in the AFC that have failed to win by two TDs or more this season: Colts and Browns. That’s really bad company, man. They couldn’t even win convincingly when the team was healthy early in the season.
And before anyone comes back with the “well, Jason Campbell was quarterback early in the season” argument, I should not have to remind you that the Raiders had 5 multiple TD margin victories last season with him as quarterback. FIVE!
The team has regressed with Hue Jackson as coach. The evidence is there.
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You don’t win by blowouts if your D is letting the other team score on will tooo…… thought you guys were smart
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The defense sucked last year and we got blowout wins….sorry your argument doesnt hold water
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sorry but our D is not even on last years level , it only got worse
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nothing from nothing leaves nothing…you must not watch football…check it out…im at every game so i see what u dont see
December 13th, 2011 at 9:32 am
331.SilverNBlackPA Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:22 am
No excuses at all bruh
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Bottom line right here.
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Ok no excuses then, all injuries aside, WORST case scenario this team loses 1 more game than it did last year. So fire Hue Jackson because he didn’t improve on last years success. Disregard the extenuating circumstances (No offseason, GM/owner DIES, Starting qb lost for the season week 6, starting RB lost for the season week 7, worst defense in football). I dont know HOW you could ignore those circumstances, but ignore them and fire Hue Jackson.
December 13th, 2011 at 9:33 am
348.Method To My Madness Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:31 am
344.hwnrdr Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:29 am
333.Method To My Madness Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:23 am
michael bush aint worn down…..he would be fine if tonga was his lead back…this is on hue
And that is my next question…was Tonga activated at all last week?
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he got in..when it was 46-7
That proves your point, B!
December 13th, 2011 at 9:33 am
defense has same problems it had since 2003
December 13th, 2011 at 9:35 am
2010 GB Packers still had their starting QB, WRs and Charles Woodson with Dom Capers as their DC.
I don’t think you can compare a team in recent memory with the 2011 Raiders.
Except maybe the KC Chiefs and look what happened to them.
December 13th, 2011 at 9:36 am
Except maybe the KC Chiefs and look what happened to them.
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And what just happened to that head coach? Who, by the way, won the division title last year.
December 13th, 2011 at 9:36 am
MistaBrown Says:
Hue sure was in a good mood in his press conf for a coach that is overseeing a epic meltdown. Hey coach you don’t need to laugh and cackle when asked a question.
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Bailey’s Irish Cream has a way of doing that to you.
December 13th, 2011 at 9:37 am
351.hwnrdr Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:33 am
348.Method To My Madness Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:31 am
344.hwnrdr Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:29 am
333.Method To My Madness Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:23 am
michael bush aint worn down…..he would be fine if tonga was his lead back…this is on hue
And that is my next question…was Tonga activated at all last week?
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he got in..when it was 46-7
That proves your point, B!
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hahahaha hue is an idiot…reece cant block at all
December 13th, 2011 at 9:38 am
The Tonga thing is just a running joke now right? Right guys?
I mean he has played and its not like Bush is doing anything different when Tonga is blocking.
December 13th, 2011 at 9:39 am
How? They have a HC worth the trouble.
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Gary Kubiak is in his SIXTH year with the Texans. SIXTH, he was 6-10 his first year. Your comparison holds no water. He was also 6-10 last year with one of the most talented rosters in football.
December 13th, 2011 at 9:39 am
Bush running wasn’t the problem at all.
Bush was running well. We got behind the eight ball after we started throwing picks and letting slow dudes score 47 yard touchdowns.
December 13th, 2011 at 9:39 am
Its not about Tonga its about teams sending the house at our line.
December 13th, 2011 at 9:40 am
And what just happened to that head coach? Who, by the way, won the division title last year.
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Todd Haley… yeah another good comparison. He was 4-12 his rookie year.
December 13th, 2011 at 9:41 am
The biggest issue is we have 1 WR healthy that has any explosion, and that 1 runs the 2nd worst routes on the team
December 13th, 2011 at 9:41 am
LA to TheBay Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:35 am
2010 GB Packers still had their starting QB, WRs and Charles Woodson with Dom Capers as their DC.
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I hear a lot of diffrent fols quoting that GB was 9-7 and went on a run. what I dont hear is that Arron Rodgers missed 2 games because of a concussion. Rodgers playing those games they win, and are not a 9-7 team more like 11-5. That 9-7 record is misleading.
December 13th, 2011 at 9:42 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:32 am
347.mcfadden20. Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:31 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:30 am
341.mcfadden20. Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:27 am
RaidingTexas Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:25 am
LA To TheBay Says:
2 ugly losses look bad right now. If he gets us in the playoffs with a MASH unit O and that… D, all is forgiven.
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Well, three ugly losses if you’re talking about blowout losses. And three more mindboggling losses. And not a SINGLE blowout win.
Not sure if I already said this, but there are only two other teams in the AFC that have failed to win by two TDs or more this season: Colts and Browns. That’s really bad company, man. They couldn’t even win convincingly when the team was healthy early in the season.
And before anyone comes back with the “well, Jason Campbell was quarterback early in the season” argument, I should not have to remind you that the Raiders had 5 multiple TD margin victories last season with him as quarterback. FIVE!
The team has regressed with Hue Jackson as coach. The evidence is there.
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You don’t win by blowouts if your D is letting the other team score on will tooo…… thought you guys were smart
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The defense sucked last year and we got blowout wins….sorry your argument doesnt hold water
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sorry but our D is not even on last years level , it only got worse
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nothing from nothing leaves nothing…you must not watch football…check it out…im at every game so i see what u dont see
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AGain our D is allowing 27+ this year compared to last year allowed less than 23 … Last year we had Mcfadden healthy n ford healthy, Campbell healthy n compared to this year .worse D n top 0 players out , so how do you suggest we blow teams out? Ask Bresh to get his D to play like RAvens D lmfao… Ask Scrub wide receivers to PLay like # 1? ask Bush to replicate Mcfadden? lmfao
December 13th, 2011 at 9:42 am
Again, the Texans lost their top defender Mario Williams (BTW in the Raiders game), their franchise QB for the season, the top WR in the league Andre Johnson (BTW didn’t play against the Raiders), and still are the #1 seed in the AFC winning with T.J. Yates. What? How? They have a HC worth the trouble.
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Tremendous defense.
Kubiak a HC worth the trouble?
Texans fans have been calling for his head for years! LOL. Even THIS year when they lost to NO…. he’s too conservative, he has no ba11s, he’s using his weapons wrong, if it wasn’t for Wade, we’d be in last place.
Seriously.
December 13th, 2011 at 9:43 am
Oh… he didn’t get run out of town either after that 4-12 debacle.
Kubiak was 6-10 with one of the most talented rosters in football in his FIFTH year as HC of the team, due in large part to his AWFUL defense. He was given the opportunity to improve by replacing the DC.
December 13th, 2011 at 9:43 am
the biggest issue is the defense. Combination of an inept DCO, and no playmakers.
December 13th, 2011 at 9:44 am
The HC doesn’t OVERCOME injuries,
your Depth Chart does…
Our Depth chart is ridiculously thin at QB, LB and RB, hell every position…
We need a Modern Day GM, period.
No more projects, scholarships or position converts…
And no more REACHING for draft picks on the 1st day.
Just WIN Baby!
December 13th, 2011 at 9:46 am
The offense has been moving the ball..
Penaties, and turnovers have cost the O.
Palmer cannot turn the ball over like he has no matter who we get back on the field. He needs to play better.
The D is killing this team…Bresh will go at the end of the season…
December 13th, 2011 at 9:46 am
I am of the opinion Mark Davis will want to give Hue another year. The question is will he hire a GM who wants him gone now? Even though I think Hue deserves another year I think it would be better for the franchise to hire a GM that has the latitude to fire him.
December 13th, 2011 at 9:47 am
367.Thec07 Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:43 am
the biggest issue is the defense. Combination of an inept DCO, and no playmakers.
And somehow, when he was hired on as a non title D assistant…why did I know he’ll get that second shot????
December 13th, 2011 at 9:48 am
bcz24 Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:43 am
Oh… he didn’t get run out of town either after that 4-12 debacle.
Kubiak was 6-10 with one of the most talented rosters in football in his FIFTH year as HC of the team, due in large part to his AWFUL defense. He was given the opportunity to improve by replacing the DC.
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fact.
let hue bring in his own guy next year n if the D is still same n our team doesn’t make playoffs then call for his head
December 13th, 2011 at 9:48 am
Any GM worth his salt will know that ALL of the factors in this season that Hue has overcome warrant AT LEAST 1 more year to work at this. Hue isn’t the problem.
December 13th, 2011 at 9:49 am
Here’s another thing I’m sick of: People whining about injuries. It’s the coach’s job to overcome injuries.
In 2008, New England lost Tom Brady for a season. They plugged in a guy who hadn’t started a game since high school and went 11-5.
In 2011, Indianapolis lost Peyton Manning for a season. They haven’t won a game yet.
In both instances, a team lost one of the Top 10 (if not Top 5) QBs to ever play the game. One kept rolling, one fell off a cliff.
The difference? COACHING.
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Sorry son, the Difference? Defense!
Hence, the reason the Colts FIRED their Defensive Coordinator…
December 13th, 2011 at 9:49 am
And somehow, when he was hired on as a non title D assistant…why did I know he’ll get that second shot????
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We got hoodwinked…However, we should be able to get a Real DCO in hear…
December 13th, 2011 at 9:50 am
# hwnrdr Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:47 am
367.Thec07 Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:43 am
the biggest issue is the defense. Combination of an inept DCO, and no playmakers.
And somehow, when he was hired on as a non title D assistant…why did I know he’ll get that second shot????
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Huge Mistake getting rid of Marshall from Last year…
December 13th, 2011 at 9:50 am
357.DeuceDeuce Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:38 am
The Tonga thing is just a running joke now right? Right guys?
I mean he has played and its not like Bush is doing anything different when Tonga is blocking.
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what a moronic statement…notice bush’s number steadily decreased since? dumbass
December 13th, 2011 at 9:50 am
371.hwnrdr Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:47 am
367.Thec07 Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:43 am
the biggest issue is the defense. Combination of an inept DCO, and no playmakers.
And somehow, when he was hired on as a non title D assistant…why did I know he’ll get that second shot????
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They went after (the guy from the Jets, cant think of his name) and were denied. Chuck Pagano LAUGHED PUBLICLY at the thought of coaching this defense because he KNEW Al would have full control anyways. Chuck was named DC because we ran out of options of credible DC’s that would work here when they knew Al had full control of the defense.
December 13th, 2011 at 9:51 am
There will lots of DCO’s to choose from this year. Perhaps Rex will STFU and let us talk to one of his guys…
December 13th, 2011 at 9:51 am
364.mcfadden20. Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:42 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:32 am
347.mcfadden20. Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:31 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:30 am
341.mcfadden20. Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:27 am
RaidingTexas Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:25 am
LA To TheBay Says:
2 ugly losses look bad right now. If he gets us in the playoffs with a MASH unit O and that… D, all is forgiven.
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Well, three ugly losses if you’re talking about blowout losses. And three more mindboggling losses. And not a SINGLE blowout win.
Not sure if I already said this, but there are only two other teams in the AFC that have failed to win by two TDs or more this season: Colts and Browns. That’s really bad company, man. They couldn’t even win convincingly when the team was healthy early in the season.
And before anyone comes back with the “well, Jason Campbell was quarterback early in the season” argument, I should not have to remind you that the Raiders had 5 multiple TD margin victories last season with him as quarterback. FIVE!
The team has regressed with Hue Jackson as coach. The evidence is there.
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You don’t win by blowouts if your D is letting the other team score on will tooo…… thought you guys were smart
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The defense sucked last year and we got blowout wins….sorry your argument doesnt hold water
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sorry but our D is not even on last years level , it only got worse
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nothing from nothing leaves nothing…you must not watch football…check it out…im at every game so i see what u dont see
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AGain our D is allowing 27+ this year compared to last year allowed less than 23 … Last year we had Mcfadden healthy n ford healthy, Campbell healthy n compared to this year .worse D n top 0 players out , so how do you suggest we blow teams out? Ask Bresh to get his D to play like RAvens D lmfao… Ask Scrub wide receivers to PLay like # 1? ask Bush to replicate Mcfadden? lmfao
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and we had a worse dhb and a worse oline so spare me your chicken schit argument
December 13th, 2011 at 9:52 am
since SD game when tonga was blocking for bush..what has run game done? reece sux as a FB…duece you are lost
December 13th, 2011 at 9:52 am
silverback Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:46 am
I am of the opinion Mark Davis will want to give Hue another year. The question is will he hire a GM who wants him gone now? Even though I think Hue deserves another year I think it would be better for the franchise to hire a GM that has the latitude to fire him.
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wow hire another coach n if he finish same record n ask for his head tooo.. cool concept why didn’t pittsburgh follow that formula i mean that would have brought more championships to their team right?
December 13th, 2011 at 9:53 am
373.bcz24 Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:48 am
Any GM worth his salt will know that ALL of the factors in this season that Hue has overcome warrant AT LEAST 1 more year to work at this. Hue isn’t the problem.
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if he loses locker room he has to go
December 13th, 2011 at 9:53 am
I do not fire Jackson however, the GM has to put him, and keep him in check.
December 13th, 2011 at 9:53 am
Defensive Coordinators will WANT to come here now. They can install their own defense as they see fit, and take ALL the credit for improving the leagues worst defense, instantly putting their name in the hat for a HC opening.
December 13th, 2011 at 9:54 am
Thought we ran an inverted wishbone w/ Reece and Tonga in the backfield w/ Bush against Chi…
seemed like a decent formation to get reece flexed and still have a FB to block for Bush/Carson…
December 13th, 2011 at 9:55 am
VanHeathen Says:
The HC doesn’t OVERCOME injuries,
your Depth Chart does…
Our Depth chart is ridiculously thin at QB, LB and RB
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I call BS on the “ridiculously thin” at RB. Show me how many teams are deeper at that spot. DMac + Bush + Taiwan = ridiculously thin? That’s laughable.
I bet you can’t even name all of the backups on the elite teams in the league without looking them up the rosters.
December 13th, 2011 at 9:55 am
if he loses locker room he has to go
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If he loses the locker room the BIG MONEY small performers have to go.
December 13th, 2011 at 9:55 am
Good Morning Raider Nation!
December 13th, 2011 at 9:55 am
duece…what is the fullback’s main job function?
December 13th, 2011 at 9:56 am
388.bcz24 Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:55 am
if he loses locker room he has to go
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If he loses the locker room the BIG MONEY small performers have to go.
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when coaches lose locker they never regain it…dont you know that?
December 13th, 2011 at 9:56 am
I call BS on the “ridiculously thin” at RB. Show me how many teams are deeper at that spot. DMac + Bush + Taiwan = ridiculously thin? That’s laughable.
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Seriously? Thats your argument? 2 of the 3 guys you just named ARE INJURED LEAVING US THIN AT RB. You should apply for Mensa genius.
December 13th, 2011 at 9:57 am
when a coach loses pulse on team he has to go Bcz…you have no argument against this and you know it
December 13th, 2011 at 9:57 am
wow hire another coach n if he finish same record n ask for his head tooo.. cool concept why didn’t pittsburgh follow that formula i mean that would have brought more championships to their team right?
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I didn’t say he would or should fire him I just think that if he doesn’t have the power to fire him it is business as usual.
December 13th, 2011 at 9:57 am
if he loses locker room he has to go
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I truly beleive he has been teetering…
The way coach has handled situations has not sat well with some of the players. This is a very tight knit group they are like brothers.
A couple of wins in a row will cure what ails. We run the table and all will be forgiven, except for the DCO he needs to be fired.
December 13th, 2011 at 9:58 am
Big strong DMAC is hurt and his season is over but it could also be career ending as that injury has been for others in the past.
Yet little MJD is leading the league in rushing and does not seem to miss any games.
Maybe it is conditioning?
December 13th, 2011 at 9:58 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:51 am
364.mcfadden20. Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:42 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:32 am
347.mcfadden20. Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:31 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:30 am
341.mcfadden20. Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:27 am
RaidingTexas Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:25 am
LA To TheBay Says:
2 ugly losses look bad right now. If he gets us in the playoffs with a MASH unit O and that… D, all is forgiven.
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Well, three ugly losses if you’re talking about blowout losses. And three more mindboggling losses. And not a SINGLE blowout win.
Not sure if I already said this, but there are only two other teams in the AFC that have failed to win by two TDs or more this season: Colts and Browns. That’s really bad company, man. They couldn’t even win convincingly when the team was healthy early in the season.
And before anyone comes back with the “well, Jason Campbell was quarterback early in the season” argument, I should not have to remind you that the Raiders had 5 multiple TD margin victories last season with him as quarterback. FIVE!
The team has regressed with Hue Jackson as coach. The evidence is there.
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You don’t win by blowouts if your D is letting the other team score on will tooo…… thought you guys were smart
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The defense sucked last year and we got blowout wins….sorry your argument doesnt hold water
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sorry but our D is not even on last years level , it only got worse
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nothing from nothing leaves nothing…you must not watch football…check it out…im at every game so i see what u dont see
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AGain our D is allowing 27+ this year compared to last year allowed less than 23 … Last year we had Mcfadden healthy n ford healthy, Campbell healthy n compared to this year .worse D n top 0 players out , so how do you suggest we blow teams out? Ask Bresh to get his D to play like RAvens D lmfao… Ask Scrub wide receivers to PLay like # 1? ask Bush to replicate Mcfadden? lmfao
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and we had a worse dhb and a worse oline so spare me your chicken schit argument
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again stop talking out of your @ss , last years team had easier schedule n only finished 8-8 thanks to a good run in the end, they beat up on very bad teams , n n they did not beat one good team at all… they didn;t win outside of division..n WE would b 4-0 against AFC west right now as well if we didn’t had to go through replacing starting quarterback with one of the worst backups ever only a week before n we didn’t had to ask our NEW QB who only had 2 weeks with team to score 30 plus against broncos, because our D made Tebow look like HOF
December 13th, 2011 at 9:58 am
Mcfadden20. Says:
wow hire another coach n if he finish same record n ask for his head tooo.. cool concept why didn’t pittsburgh follow that formula i mean that would have brought more championships to their team right?
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Because Pittsburgh didn’t have a meddling owner in the preceding seasons. Now that Al is gone, this team has the opportunity to get it right. Why waste another season with his last no-better-options-available head coach?
December 13th, 2011 at 10:00 am
Why waste another season with his last no-better-options-available head coach?
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Tough to argue that however, we go 10-6 do you get rid of him, knowing you can do better?
December 13th, 2011 at 10:01 am
except for the DCO he needs to be fired.
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goes without saying…bres looks confused as to why he is even alive
December 13th, 2011 at 10:01 am
RaidingTexas Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:55 am
VanHeathen Says:
The HC doesn’t OVERCOME injuries,
your Depth Chart does…
Our Depth chart is ridiculously thin at QB, LB and RB
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I call BS on the “ridiculously thin” at RB. Show me how many teams are deeper at that spot. DMac + Bush + Taiwan = ridiculously thin? That’s laughable.
I bet you can’t even name all of the backups on the elite teams in the league without looking them up the rosters.
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When you lose 2 of 3 rb backs to injuries for the most of the year it becomes ridiculously thin , HELLO open your eyes
December 13th, 2011 at 10:01 am
when coaches lose locker they never regain it…dont you know that?
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You are wrong. Perfect example. The 2003 New England Patriots. The cut team captain and Pro Bowler Lawyer Milloy 5 days before the season and the team went ape sh1t over it. They HATED Belichik for that move… and went 14-2 and won the super bowl. Winning cures everything bro YOU know that is a fact.
December 13th, 2011 at 10:01 am
“All of our defensive linemen get double-teamed,” Jackson said. “Those are some big guys we have. So they get double-teamed. They get grabbed, they get pulled. They get a little bit of everything.”
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Hmmm, that sounds like a load of crap. I see a lot of our d-linemen getting easily handled on running plays one on one.
December 13th, 2011 at 10:02 am
RaidingTexas Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:58 am
Mcfadden20. Says:
wow hire another coach n if he finish same record n ask for his head tooo.. cool concept why didn’t pittsburgh follow that formula i mean that would have brought more championships to their team right?
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Because Pittsburgh didn’t have a meddling owner in the preceding seasons. Now that Al is gone, this team has the opportunity to get it right. Why waste another season with his last no-better-options-available head coach?
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My only hope is that the new GM is the one making this decision, not anyone currently connected with the organization including the owner.
December 13th, 2011 at 10:02 am
397.mcfadden20. Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:58 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:51 am
364.mcfadden20. Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:42 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:32 am
347.mcfadden20. Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:31 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:30 am
341.mcfadden20. Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:27 am
RaidingTexas Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:25 am
LA To TheBay Says:
2 ugly losses look bad right now. If he gets us in the playoffs with a MASH unit O and that… D, all is forgiven.
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Well, three ugly losses if you’re talking about blowout losses. And three more mindboggling losses. And not a SINGLE blowout win.
Not sure if I already said this, but there are only two other teams in the AFC that have failed to win by two TDs or more this season: Colts and Browns. That’s really bad company, man. They couldn’t even win convincingly when the team was healthy early in the season.
And before anyone comes back with the “well, Jason Campbell was quarterback early in the season” argument, I should not have to remind you that the Raiders had 5 multiple TD margin victories last season with him as quarterback. FIVE!
The team has regressed with Hue Jackson as coach. The evidence is there.
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You don’t win by blowouts if your D is letting the other team score on will tooo…… thought you guys were smart
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The defense sucked last year and we got blowout wins….sorry your argument doesnt hold water
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sorry but our D is not even on last years level , it only got worse
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nothing from nothing leaves nothing…you must not watch football…check it out…im at every game so i see what u dont see
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AGain our D is allowing 27+ this year compared to last year allowed less than 23 … Last year we had Mcfadden healthy n ford healthy, Campbell healthy n compared to this year .worse D n top 0 players out , so how do you suggest we blow teams out? Ask Bresh to get his D to play like RAvens D lmfao… Ask Scrub wide receivers to PLay like # 1? ask Bush to replicate Mcfadden? lmfao
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and we had a worse dhb and a worse oline so spare me your chicken schit argument
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again stop talking out of your @ss , last years team had easier schedule n only finished 8-8 thanks to a good run in the end, they beat up on very bad teams , n n they did not beat one good team at all… they didn;t win outside of division..n WE would b 4-0 against AFC west right now as well if we didn’t had to go through replacing starting quarterback with one of the worst backups ever only a week before n we didn’t had to ask our NEW QB who only had 2 weeks with team to score 30 plus against broncos, because our D made Tebow look like HOF
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Easier schedule? This is the fkin NFL man….that bs is an excuse…must be a democrat
December 13th, 2011 at 10:02 am
Bcz24 Says:
Seriously? Thats your argument? 2 of the 3 guys you just named ARE INJURED LEAVING US THIN AT RB. You should apply for Mensa genius.
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He said depth chart, did he not. That’s what I responded to. What part of depth chart do you not understand? All three of those guys are still on the depth chart, right? He implied that we didn’t have options when DMac went down.
Get back to work on your GED, azzwipe.
December 13th, 2011 at 10:03 am
RaidingTexas Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:58 am
Mcfadden20. Says:
wow hire another coach n if he finish same record n ask for his head tooo.. cool concept why didn’t pittsburgh follow that formula i mean that would have brought more championships to their team right?
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Because Pittsburgh didn’t have a meddling owner in the preceding seasons. Now that Al is gone, this team has the opportunity to get it right. Why waste another season with his last no-better-options-available head coach?
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He was a great hire, only bad choice AL made was bringing in the POS breshnahan so thats his last bad hire n we need to get rid of him..
December 13th, 2011 at 10:03 am
Here’s another thing I’m sick of: People whining about injuries. It’s the coach’s job to overcome injuries.
In 2008, New England lost Tom Brady for a season. They plugged in a guy who hadn’t started a game since high school and went 11-5.
In 2011, Indianapolis lost Peyton Manning for a season. They haven’t won a game yet.
In both instances, a team lost one of the Top 10 (if not Top 5) QBs to ever play the game. One kept rolling, one fell off a cliff.
The difference? COACHING.
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As I said above… yes, good teams overcome injuries. That’s because good teams have also done well in the draft, accumulating adequate depth that allows them to keep rolling when injuries happen.
The Colts’ roster? Not very good. Filled with draft busts and players who would likely not catch on anywhere else. Especially along the front seven and offensive line.
The Raiders’ roster is much the same. The depth players are simply inadequate. DHB should not be starting, but now he is. Michael Bush should be splitting his carries with another back, but now he can’t. Lito Sheppard should be a rotational guy at best, but behind him all the Raiders have now is a rookie. If McClain got benched, the Raiders would have either had to start Darryl Blackstock, or move Aaron Curry to the middle. And of course, when Jason Campbell went down, the backup was Kyle Boller.
The leadership the Raiders DO have? The core of the team that would generally lead a hobbled team down the stretch? Well, Jason Campbell and Darren McFadden are likely done for the year (or might as well be), and Richard Seymour and Tommy Kelly only show up to play when they feel like it – that accounts for two huge paydays Al Davis gave out… by the way, both are 3-tech penetrating DTs who are asked to shoot gaps instead of staying in their lanes to shut down the run… the only run stopper the Raiders have behind them? An aging John Henderson.
Good teams DO overcome injuries. This is NOT a good team yet. And still, they’re in contention. Doesn’t THAT have to do with coaching just a bit? Especially when the coach didn’t have the authority to autonomously make roster decisions until after week 5?
December 13th, 2011 at 10:03 am
403.Dakota Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:01 am
“All of our defensive linemen get double-teamed,” Jackson said. “Those are some big guys we have. So they get double-teamed. They get grabbed, they get pulled. They get a little bit of everything.”
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Hmmm, that sounds like a load of crap. I see a lot of our d-linemen getting easily handled on running plays one on one.
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Seymour on ryan grant’s first td run…sad…real sad to start a game like that…he is almost finished
December 13th, 2011 at 10:04 am
he has us playing winning football for the most part with the leagues WORST defense).
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OUR DCO AND D IS PATHETIC…WHAT NFL TEAM HAS SPENT MORE MONEy AND GOTTEN LESS ROI????
Raiders have the worst performing D in the NFL…
December 13th, 2011 at 10:04 am
2010 is fkin over McFadden20…..its 2011 and we concerned about this year….stop with the horse schit excuses man
December 13th, 2011 at 10:05 am
““All of our defensive linemen get double-teamed,””
Really there are 8 guys blocking our 4 guys on every play?
If that was the case then McClain is really a lot worse then previously imagined!
December 13th, 2011 at 10:06 am
Good teams DO overcome injuries. This is NOT a good team yet. And still, they’re in contention. Doesn’t THAT have to do with coaching just a bit? Especially when the coach didn’t have the authority to autonomously make roster decisions until after week 5?
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There is SOME reason in here.
December 13th, 2011 at 10:06 am
the excuse train period must stop if we ever wanna get back for real…im not talking football only
cant blame the white man, immigrants, the govt or your messed up childhood…cry me a river…everyone is going thru something….you have to rise above it and still win in life
December 13th, 2011 at 10:07 am
“Easier schedule? This is the fkin NFL man….that bs is an excuse…”
I agree 100% this is the NFL every team is hard to beat on any given Sunday.
Hue is approaching Cable territory and this concerns me.
December 13th, 2011 at 10:08 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:02 am
397.mcfadden20. Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:58 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:51 am
364.mcfadden20. Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:42 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:32 am
347.mcfadden20. Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:31 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:30 am
341.mcfadden20. Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:27 am
RaidingTexas Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:25 am
LA To TheBay Says:
2 ugly losses look bad right now. If he gets us in the playoffs with a MASH unit O and that… D, all is forgiven.
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Well, three ugly losses if you’re talking about blowout losses. And three more mindboggling losses. And not a SINGLE blowout win.
Not sure if I already said this, but there are only two other teams in the AFC that have failed to win by two TDs or more this season: Colts and Browns. That’s really bad company, man. They couldn’t even win convincingly when the team was healthy early in the season.
And before anyone comes back with the “well, Jason Campbell was quarterback early in the season” argument, I should not have to remind you that the Raiders had 5 multiple TD margin victories last season with him as quarterback. FIVE!
The team has regressed with Hue Jackson as coach. The evidence is there.
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You don’t win by blowouts if your D is letting the other team score on will tooo…… thought you guys were smart
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The defense sucked last year and we got blowout wins….sorry your argument doesnt hold water
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sorry but our D is not even on last years level , it only got worse
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nothing from nothing leaves nothing…you must not watch football…check it out…im at every game so i see what u dont see
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AGain our D is allowing 27+ this year compared to last year allowed less than 23 … Last year we had Mcfadden healthy n ford healthy, Campbell healthy n compared to this year .worse D n top 0 players out , so how do you suggest we blow teams out? Ask Bresh to get his D to play like RAvens D lmfao… Ask Scrub wide receivers to PLay like # 1? ask Bush to replicate Mcfadden? lmfao
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and we had a worse dhb and a worse oline so spare me your chicken schit argument
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again stop talking out of your @ss , last years team had easier schedule n only finished 8-8 thanks to a good run in the end, they beat up on very bad teams , n n they did not beat one good team at all… they didn;t win outside of division..n WE would b 4-0 against AFC west right now as well if we didn’t had to go through replacing starting quarterback with one of the worst backups ever only a week before n we didn’t had to ask our NEW QB who only had 2 weeks with team to score 30 plus against broncos, because our D made Tebow look like HOF
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Easier schedule? This is the fkin NFL man….that bs is an excuse…must be a democrat
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WTF is Democrat or any of that bull$hit , i don’t give a $hit about the political stuff… If you look against the teams they faced last year .. most of the teams they faced had really bad records n they only won 8 games? i mean its not like those teams saved their Best games for Raiders and no Wins against good opponents ? i mean you can put SD and KC in that category but they are not good IMO
December 13th, 2011 at 10:08 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:05 am
““All of our defensive linemen get double-teamed,””
Really there are 8 guys blocking our 4 guys on every play?
If that was the case then McClain is really a lot worse then previously imagined!
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hahahahahahahahahaha……Gotta laugh at this one…lol
December 13th, 2011 at 10:08 am
414 Nice post B@uce this team needs to rise above the excuses and win the last three games and hope the Jets take a dump.
December 13th, 2011 at 10:08 am
Hue and palmer will have the benifit of training camp next season. Calling for a change is stupid. DC for sure tho.
December 13th, 2011 at 10:08 am
Come on guys, you know Hue didn’t mean ALL of our lineman get doubled on every single play. Besides, would rather him just come out and say, yeah, our dline sucks. Sorry guys, but they are a quality unit when they give their all, which is about 30% of the snaps they play… and then what. Then you REALLY lose the team. So he is making excuses for the team, to US, because he is keeping the facts IN HOUSE as a GOOD COACH SHOULD DO!
December 13th, 2011 at 10:09 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
Hue is approaching Cable territory
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We can only hope this team gets to 8-8.
December 13th, 2011 at 10:09 am
Hey Hue…
What have you done for the Nation lately???
December 13th, 2011 at 10:09 am
Bres looks like the fat chick my college roommate banged…
He shot up out of bed that night at like 2AM and exclaimed “I forgot I have a meeting”
And she goes “You gotta be sh!tting me” and he gets all dressed and cleans up and gets in his car and drives around for a bit, comes back home and she was gone..
Fatty left by the back door..we called her BDFS after that when referring to her..Back Door Fat-n-Sweaty..
Bres should be forced to leave the Raiders via the back door..
Embarrassment to this franchise..
December 13th, 2011 at 10:10 am
415.Silverandblack666 Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:07 am
“Easier schedule? This is the fkin NFL man….that bs is an excuse…”
I agree 100% this is the NFL every team is hard to beat on any given Sunday.
Hue is approaching Cable territory and this concerns me.
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Cable guy was 4-8 his first season (took over for Lame week 5) and 5-11 his first full season. Sooooo Hue is ALREADY 2 games better, with 3 still to play.
December 13th, 2011 at 10:10 am
416.mcfadden20. Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:08 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:02 am
397.mcfadden20. Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:58 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:51 am
364.mcfadden20. Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:42 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:32 am
347.mcfadden20. Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:31 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:30 am
341.mcfadden20. Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:27 am
RaidingTexas Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:25 am
LA To TheBay Says:
2 ugly losses look bad right now. If he gets us in the playoffs with a MASH unit O and that… D, all is forgiven.
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Well, three ugly losses if you’re talking about blowout losses. And three more mindboggling losses. And not a SINGLE blowout win.
Not sure if I already said this, but there are only two other teams in the AFC that have failed to win by two TDs or more this season: Colts and Browns. That’s really bad company, man. They couldn’t even win convincingly when the team was healthy early in the season.
And before anyone comes back with the “well, Jason Campbell was quarterback early in the season” argument, I should not have to remind you that the Raiders had 5 multiple TD margin victories last season with him as quarterback. FIVE!
The team has regressed with Hue Jackson as coach. The evidence is there.
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You don’t win by blowouts if your D is letting the other team score on will tooo…… thought you guys were smart
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The defense sucked last year and we got blowout wins….sorry your argument doesnt hold water
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sorry but our D is not even on last years level , it only got worse
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nothing from nothing leaves nothing…you must not watch football…check it out…im at every game so i see what u dont see
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AGain our D is allowing 27+ this year compared to last year allowed less than 23 … Last year we had Mcfadden healthy n ford healthy, Campbell healthy n compared to this year .worse D n top 0 players out , so how do you suggest we blow teams out? Ask Bresh to get his D to play like RAvens D lmfao… Ask Scrub wide receivers to PLay like # 1? ask Bush to replicate Mcfadden? lmfao
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and we had a worse dhb and a worse oline so spare me your chicken schit argument
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again stop talking out of your @ss , last years team had easier schedule n only finished 8-8 thanks to a good run in the end, they beat up on very bad teams , n n they did not beat one good team at all… they didn;t win outside of division..n WE would b 4-0 against AFC west right now as well if we didn’t had to go through replacing starting quarterback with one of the worst backups ever only a week before n we didn’t had to ask our NEW QB who only had 2 weeks with team to score 30 plus against broncos, because our D made Tebow look like HOF
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Easier schedule? This is the fkin NFL man….that bs is an excuse…must be a democrat
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WTF is Democrat or any of that bull$hit , i don’t give a $hit about the political stuff… If you look against the teams they faced last year .. most of the teams they faced had really bad records n they only won 8 games? i mean its not like those teams saved their Best games for Raiders and no Wins against good opponents ? i mean you can put SD and KC in that category but they are not good IMO
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you make excuses like a democrat…understand sarcasm you jcat! and you still making excuses…sad for a grown man to do that
December 13th, 2011 at 10:10 am
Seymour is dogging it, that’s all. Never practices. Practices two days in a row for the first time all season last week. For all we know, it’s because Hue sat him down after his ejection and explained to him what a REAL leader acts like.
The reason I take the reports of “losing the locker room” with a grain of salt? Plenty of coaches have been accused of that. But when you have a team where the starters are generally VERY highly paid (too much so to acquire adequate role players), on a team notorious over the last two decades for spotty effort because the owner/GM didn’t demand that they WORK HARD for their paydays… what happens when you have a coach come in who demands they be accountable in the locker room after a loss? Who demands they be accountable during the week, and put in the same week of work that all the unheralded guys do… well, that tends to piss off established players who feel entitled to their roles.
Not saying that’s absolutely 100% what it is. But the point is, none of us know. And the problems we’re seeing with this Raiders team are ones that existed LONG before Hue was head coach.
December 13th, 2011 at 10:12 am
Thec07 Says:
WHAT NFL TEAM HAS SPENT MORE MONEy AND GOTTEN LESS ROI????
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That’s the same dam thing I keep thinking about Darren McFadden.
Even if that guy somehow stays healthy enough to get 300 carries in each of his last two seasons, the team will have spent $60 million for an average 200 carries per season. That’s $50,000 per carry if you can’t do the math.
Absolutely horrible ROI.
December 13th, 2011 at 10:12 am
Suddenly everyone is on R Seymour’s back.
lmao
December 13th, 2011 at 10:13 am
I know there have been a lot of distractions this year but lets be real if a bumbling idiot like Cable can get this team to win 8 games we all have to admit that we expected more from Hue Jackson.
December 13th, 2011 at 10:13 am
Please just designate YA as the Blog Voice of Reason.
December 13th, 2011 at 10:13 am
Bcz24 Says:
Come on guys, you know Hue didn’t mean ALL of our lineman get doubled on every single play
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How does anyone know what he means when he opens his mouth. He comes out and says stuff every week that makes you shake your head.
December 13th, 2011 at 10:13 am
RaidingTexas Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:25 am
LA To TheBay Says:
2 ugly losses look bad right now. If he gets us in the playoffs with a MASH unit O and that… D, all is forgiven.
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Well, three ugly losses if you’re talking about blowout losses. And three more mindboggling losses. And not a SINGLE blowout win.
Not sure if I already said this, but there are only two other teams in the AFC that have failed to win by two TDs or more this season: Colts and Browns. That’s really bad company, man. They couldn’t even win convincingly when the team was healthy early in the season.
And before anyone comes back with the “well, Jason Campbell was quarterback early in the season” argument, I should not have to remind you that the Raiders had 5 multiple TD margin victories last season with him as quarterback. FIVE!
The team has regressed with Hue Jackson as coach. The evidence is there.
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Method that’s why i was talking about last year ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
December 13th, 2011 at 10:14 am
Time to focus on DET. Suh is comin to the town, are we going to switch the Oline around? Satele is going to get his head handed o him if we dont.
December 13th, 2011 at 10:14 am
MistaBrown Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:12 am
Suddenly everyone is on R Seymour’s back.
lmao
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Gotta give credit where credit’s due, MB. You had been on him for months.
The last straw for me was seeing him skip entire weeks of practice and then suit up on gameday like he didn’t even need to practice. That’s why you’re seeing a whole lot more Desmond Bryant, Lamarr Houston, and John Henderson at DT this season.
December 13th, 2011 at 10:15 am
That bumbling idiot got this team to 8 wins WITH Hue Jackson! He was 9-19 without him.
December 13th, 2011 at 10:15 am
I don’t know what you guys are talking about R Seymour is a perennial pro bowler and leader of our Def.
rofl
December 13th, 2011 at 10:17 am
436.MistaBrown Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:15 am
I don’t know what you guys are talking about R Seymour is a perennial pro bowler and leader of our Def.
rofl
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LMAO
December 13th, 2011 at 10:18 am
How does anyone know what he means when he opens his mouth. He comes out and says stuff every week that makes you shake your head.
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Tell me, honestly, how many head coach press conferences you watch on a regular basis, OTHER than Hue Jackson’s? Seriously. Watch a few of them, see what they say, and tell me you don’t feel the same way about those guys. These coaches are MANDATED by the NFL to appear in front of the media. So they all end up either saying sh1t that makes you shake your head, or they act like Tom Cable, and literally spend 20 minutes saying NOTHING at all.
December 13th, 2011 at 10:18 am
I think more than anything else the Raiders are fatigued, the coaches, the players, everyone. It has been an extremely emotional year, and along with all the physical aspects of football it has taken its toll. If the Raiders can somehow get this one win against Detroit, it will restore their enthusiasm and give them a chance to go back to winning the games they are supposed to win.
December 13th, 2011 at 10:18 am
426.YoungAmerican Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:10 am
Seymour is dogging it, that’s all. Never practices. Practices two days in a row for the first time all season last week. For all we know, it’s because Hue sat him down after his ejection and explained to him what a REAL leader acts like.
The reason I take the reports of “losing the locker room” with a grain of salt? Plenty of coaches have been accused of that. But when you have a team where the starters are generally VERY highly paid (too much so to acquire adequate role players), on a team notorious over the last two decades for spotty effort because the owner/GM didn’t demand that they WORK HARD for their paydays… what happens when you have a coach come in who demands they be accountable in the locker room after a loss? Who demands they be accountable during the week, and put in the same week of work that all the unheralded guys do… well, that tends to piss off established players who feel entitled to their roles.
Not saying that’s absolutely 100% what it is. But the point is, none of us know. And the problems we’re seeing with this Raiders team are ones that existed LONG before Hue was head coach.
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yeah take it with a grain of salt until it hits you in the face lol…then you willto switch up your tune as most will
December 13th, 2011 at 10:19 am
bcz rollin today.
December 13th, 2011 at 10:19 am
“That bumbling idiot got this team to 8 wins WITH Hue Jackson! He was 9-19 without him.”
It does not matter how he did it or who we played, all that goes down in the annals of history is an 8-8 season.
So if I use your point then we should have kept Cable at HC and Hue Jack at OC we might be better off right now.
Get real we all expected Hue Jackson to take us to 10-6.
December 13th, 2011 at 10:19 am
Once again we have the stcuk on stupid fans wanting Hue fired after his first year of caching. Most of his guns are down and he still is finding a way to win games with a team that is not that good right now.
I don’t agree with some of the play calling but this team is a lot better than the ones we have had over the last decade.
One of the worse things Al did was fire and hire a new coach year after year, after year. In addition to picking the coaches assistant coaches before hiring a head coach in most cases. How many other teams do that? Hopefully, Hue will be able to hire his own assistant coaches with the help of managment next year.
Hue’s a good coach give the guy a chance. He is at least willing to not give up after a starting player goes down. We have had some major injuries to game changing players. Even after JC was out for the year he goes to get Palmer and gets three more W’s. No big Palmer fan but it beats watching do nothing QB’s for the rest of the season. Do you think fans would have sold out the stadium to watch Kyle Boller?
These comments are so typical of shallow minded Raider fans.
December 13th, 2011 at 10:20 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:10 am
416.mcfadden20. Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:08 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:02 am
397.mcfadden20. Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:58 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:51 am
364.mcfadden20. Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:42 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:32 am
347.mcfadden20. Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:31 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:30 am
341.mcfadden20. Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:27 am
RaidingTexas Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:25 am
LA To TheBay Says:
2 ugly losses look bad right now. If he gets us in the playoffs with a MASH unit O and that… D, all is forgiven.
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Well, three ugly losses if you’re talking about blowout losses. And three more mindboggling losses. And not a SINGLE blowout win.
Not sure if I already said this, but there are only two other teams in the AFC that have failed to win by two TDs or more this season: Colts and Browns. That’s really bad company, man. They couldn’t even win convincingly when the team was healthy early in the season.
And before anyone comes back with the “well, Jason Campbell was quarterback early in the season” argument, I should not have to remind you that the Raiders had 5 multiple TD margin victories last season with him as quarterback. FIVE!
The team has regressed with Hue Jackson as coach. The evidence is there.
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You don’t win by blowouts if your D is letting the other team score on will tooo…… thought you guys were smart
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The defense sucked last year and we got blowout wins….sorry your argument doesnt hold water
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sorry but our D is not even on last years level , it only got worse
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nothing from nothing leaves nothing…you must not watch football…check it out…im at every game so i see what u dont see
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AGain our D is allowing 27+ this year compared to last year allowed less than 23 … Last year we had Mcfadden healthy n ford healthy, Campbell healthy n compared to this year .worse D n top 0 players out , so how do you suggest we blow teams out? Ask Bresh to get his D to play like RAvens D lmfao… Ask Scrub wide receivers to PLay like # 1? ask Bush to replicate Mcfadden? lmfao
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and we had a worse dhb and a worse oline so spare me your chicken schit argument
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again stop talking out of your @ss , last years team had easier schedule n only finished 8-8 thanks to a good run in the end, they beat up on very bad teams , n n they did not beat one good team at all… they didn;t win outside of division..n WE would b 4-0 against AFC west right now as well if we didn’t had to go through replacing starting quarterback with one of the worst backups ever only a week before n we didn’t had to ask our NEW QB who only had 2 weeks with team to score 30 plus against broncos, because our D made Tebow look like HOF
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Easier schedule? This is the fkin NFL man….that bs is an excuse…must be a democrat
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WTF is Democrat or any of that bull$hit , i don’t give a $hit about the political stuff… If you look against the teams they faced last year .. most of the teams they faced had really bad records n they only won 8 games? i mean its not like those teams saved their Best games for Raiders and no Wins against good opponents ? i mean you can put SD and KC in that category but they are not good IMO
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you make excuses like a democrat…understand sarcasm you jcat! and you still making excuses…sad for a grown man to do that
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Hey man just giving you valid points thats all, you don’t need to make childish remarks … Just saying even Lombardi wouldn’t have went anywhere with our team this year … if he had to go through alot of stuff like that… but oh yeah lets Fire our Rookie Coach who only had a short season to prepare our team ,n lets not give him chance to grow into his role n see what he does with competent D, full training camp , bringing more depth next year .. Really man ? I think even Al Davis would call you stupid for firing a coach after his first year lmfao
December 13th, 2011 at 10:20 am
418.Silverandblack666 Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:08 am
414 Nice post B@uce this team needs to rise above the excuses and win the last three games and hope the Jets take a dump.
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get the fkin job done! its still there for us…tebow and company aint guaranteed schit yet until they do it!
December 13th, 2011 at 10:21 am
“436.MistaBrown Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:15 am
I don’t know what you guys are talking about R Seymour is a perennial pro bowler and leader of our Def.
rofl
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LMAO”
Richard Seymour is the invisible man until his name gets called for a personal foul 15 yard penalty!
December 13th, 2011 at 10:21 am
Bcz24 Says:
That bumbling idiot got this team to 8 wins WITH Hue Jackson! He was 9-19 without him.
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Don’t forget which QB was forced on Cable by the owner during that 9-19 stretch. LMAO! You think any coach was going to win with a fat fk high on purple drank all the time?
You guys don’t even think through your arguments before you post them here. Pretty funny, actually. It makes it easier for the rest of us, though.
December 13th, 2011 at 10:21 am
All these reports of Hue losing the locker room come from 1 single place… Mike Florio and his anonymous source. He started that garbage when we lost back to back to KC and DEN, and it totally disappeared when we won 3 straight. Now we lost a few more and he has an opportunity to recirculate this trash, yet ANY player asked all says no such thing has occured.
December 13th, 2011 at 10:22 am
444.mcfadden20. Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:20 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:10 am
416.mcfadden20. Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:08 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:02 am
397.mcfadden20. Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:58 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:51 am
364.mcfadden20. Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:42 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:32 am
347.mcfadden20. Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:31 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:30 am
341.mcfadden20. Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:27 am
RaidingTexas Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:25 am
LA To TheBay Says:
2 ugly losses look bad right now. If he gets us in the playoffs with a MASH unit O and that… D, all is forgiven.
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Well, three ugly losses if you’re talking about blowout losses. And three more mindboggling losses. And not a SINGLE blowout win.
Not sure if I already said this, but there are only two other teams in the AFC that have failed to win by two TDs or more this season: Colts and Browns. That’s really bad company, man. They couldn’t even win convincingly when the team was healthy early in the season.
And before anyone comes back with the “well, Jason Campbell was quarterback early in the season” argument, I should not have to remind you that the Raiders had 5 multiple TD margin victories last season with him as quarterback. FIVE!
The team has regressed with Hue Jackson as coach. The evidence is there.
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You don’t win by blowouts if your D is letting the other team score on will tooo…… thought you guys were smart
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The defense sucked last year and we got blowout wins….sorry your argument doesnt hold water
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sorry but our D is not even on last years level , it only got worse
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nothing from nothing leaves nothing…you must not watch football…check it out…im at every game so i see what u dont see
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AGain our D is allowing 27+ this year compared to last year allowed less than 23 … Last year we had Mcfadden healthy n ford healthy, Campbell healthy n compared to this year .worse D n top 0 players out , so how do you suggest we blow teams out? Ask Bresh to get his D to play like RAvens D lmfao… Ask Scrub wide receivers to PLay like # 1? ask Bush to replicate Mcfadden? lmfao
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and we had a worse dhb and a worse oline so spare me your chicken schit argument
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again stop talking out of your @ss , last years team had easier schedule n only finished 8-8 thanks to a good run in the end, they beat up on very bad teams , n n they did not beat one good team at all… they didn;t win outside of division..n WE would b 4-0 against AFC west right now as well if we didn’t had to go through replacing starting quarterback with one of the worst backups ever only a week before n we didn’t had to ask our NEW QB who only had 2 weeks with team to score 30 plus against broncos, because our D made Tebow look like HOF
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Easier schedule? This is the fkin NFL man….that bs is an excuse…must be a democrat
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WTF is Democrat or any of that bull$hit , i don’t give a $hit about the political stuff… If you look against the teams they faced last year .. most of the teams they faced had really bad records n they only won 8 games? i mean its not like those teams saved their Best games for Raiders and no Wins against good opponents ? i mean you can put SD and KC in that category but they are not good IMO
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you make excuses like a democrat…understand sarcasm you jcat! and you still making excuses…sad for a grown man to do that
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Hey man just giving you valid points thats all, you don’t need to make childish remarks … Just saying even Lombardi wouldn’t have went anywhere with our team this year … if he had to go through alot of stuff like that… but oh yeah lets Fire our Rookie Coach who only had a short season to prepare our team ,n lets not give him chance to grow into his role n see what he does with competent D, full training camp , bringing more depth next year .. Really man ? I think even Al Davis would call you stupid for firing a coach after his first year lmfao
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Al never fired a rookie coach? Rookie coaches dont get fired?
Childish remarks? Not if true…well kids do usually tell truth lol
December 13th, 2011 at 10:23 am
how do we lose the divsion tie breaker if we both finish 4-2 in the division?
December 13th, 2011 at 10:23 am
I was able to get Seaperch back to SeaBass but I’m afraid I was not able to get R Seymour straightened out.
My apologies to the Raider Nation.
:/
December 13th, 2011 at 10:23 am
I don’t think we are saying FIRE Hue Jack I think we are all saying that we expected more from him.
December 13th, 2011 at 10:24 am
CJ…if he loses team then he has nowhere to go but outta here…plain and simple and not up for debate
December 13th, 2011 at 10:24 am
CJ Legend 34 Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:19 am
Once again we have the stcuk on stupid fans wanting Hue fired after his first year of caching. Most of his guns are down and he still is finding a way to win games with a team that is not that good right now.
I don’t agree with some of the play calling but this team is a lot better than the ones we have had over the last decade.
One of the worse things Al did was fire and hire a new coach year after year, after year. In addition to picking the coaches assistant coaches before hiring a head coach in most cases. How many other teams do that? Hopefully, Hue will be able to hire his own assistant coaches with the help of managment next year.
Hue’s a good coach give the guy a chance. He is at least willing to not give up after a starting player goes down. We have had some major injuries to game changing players. Even after JC was out for the year he goes to get Palmer and gets three more W’s. No big Palmer fan but it beats watching do nothing QB’s for the rest of the season. Do you think fans would have sold out the stadium to watch Kyle Boller?
These comments are so typical of shallow minded Raider fans.
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Correct .. wish we had more fans like you .. these guys overreact like girls on Periods after every single win or loss
December 13th, 2011 at 10:24 am
Hellsbells Says:
how do we lose the divsion tie breaker if we both finish 4-2 in the division?
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Denver will have a better record against like opponents.
December 13th, 2011 at 10:25 am
451.MistaBrown Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:23 am
I was able to get Seaperch back to SeaBass but I’m afraid I was not able to get R Seymour straightened out.
My apologies to the Raider Nation.
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Apology not accepted lol
December 13th, 2011 at 10:25 am
Don’t forget which QB was forced on Cable by the owner during that 9-19 stretch. LMAO! You think any coach was going to win with a fat fk high on purple drank all the time?
You guys don’t even think through your arguments before you post them here. Pretty funny, actually. It makes it easier for the rest of us, though.
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Wait wait wait. Tom Cable gets the EXCUSE that he had Jamarcus Russell forced on him, but Hue Jackson has to man up and win despite everything that happened this year. No excuses. He is paid to win?
Good job junior. You just jumped off the cliff with that one.
December 13th, 2011 at 10:26 am
Distractions distractions blah blah….
Good teams find a way to win and bad teams find excuses for why they are losing.
December 13th, 2011 at 10:26 am
You guys are fans…ive never been a fan
December 13th, 2011 at 10:26 am
It’s one thing to play poorly as a team because of injuries, all teams have them, case in point GB last season and Texas this season. Another is to not show up to a game. Hard to believe that high-paid players, making elite-type of cash, professionals in all sense of the word, not to “show up” for a game. One day, HueSux calls Seymour a “rock,” after yet another ejection and personal foul. The next game, Big Rich was there, even playing in special teams, at least I thought I saw him late, but he didn’t make a single tackle, as Romo calls it, you have to really not try to not make a single tackle, as a defensive tackle! That’s too cold.
HueSux tells the team that there has to consequences for your behavior, next day McClain is playing and carrying on like a complete moron, graduated from fool, dude, as much as don’t like the Bay Area press (with exceptions), the media is us, the fans (it should be). That’s how fans know what and who you are, to support or not support you. You might not like Cork, not many of us do, but dude, play it straight, not like that joker face you gave us.
All of these matters play up for the HC, it shows players either checking out (Seymour) or being reckless (McClain), and by not taking action it sets the wrong tone. How else can you explain such a meltdown?
These last two weren’t just losses because of the shortcomings in personnel available to play, those were losses where the whole team fails to show up, and in the famous words of Monte Poole “left their manhood spread out in Sun Life Stadium.” If the team left their “manhood” in Miami, how were they going to show up in GB?
Something must have happened and it’s a shame. Someone has to be responsible, guess what? It’s all on HueSux, said so himself.
December 13th, 2011 at 10:27 am
450.hellsbells Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:23 am
how do we lose the divsion tie breaker if we both finish 4-2 in the division?
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Here are the rules, I’ll let you figure it out:
TO BREAK A TIE WITHIN A DIVISION
If, at the end of the regular season, two or more clubs in the same division finish with identical won-lost-tied percentages, the following steps will be taken until a champion is determined.
Two Clubs
1.Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs).
2.Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
3.Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
4.Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
5.Strength of victory.
6.Strength of schedule.
7.Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
8.Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
9.Best net points in common games.
10.Best net points in all games.
11.Best net touchdowns in all games.
12.Coin toss
December 13th, 2011 at 10:27 am
Morning/afternoon peoples!
December 13th, 2011 at 10:27 am
Bcz24 Says:
Wait wait wait. Tom Cable gets the EXCUSE that he had Jamarcus Russell forced on him, but Hue Jackson has to man up and win despite everything that happened this year. No excuses. He is paid to win?
Good job junior. You just jumped off the cliff with that one.
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And Cable’s only success gets to be credited to Hue?
Look at you, Wile E. Coyote!!! Watch out for the anvil when you reach the ground.
December 13th, 2011 at 10:27 am
458.Silverandblack666 Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:26 am
Distractions distractions blah blah….
Good teams find a way to win and bad teams find excuses for why they are losing.
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no one wants to really man up on here minus a few people
December 13th, 2011 at 10:27 am
“Good job junior. You just jumped off the cliff with that one.”
No I think he just pushed you and your BS off the cliff!
December 13th, 2011 at 10:27 am
Al never fired a rookie coach? Rookie coaches dont get fired?
Childish remarks? Not if true…well kids do usually tell truth lol
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Can you name me any ROOKIE HC’s that have ever been fired after just one season? Not HC’s in their first year with the team, but previous HC experience. Actually FIRST TIME HCs?
December 13th, 2011 at 10:28 am
wait for it……wait for it…..
December 13th, 2011 at 10:28 am
463.RaidingTexas Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:27 am
Bcz24 Says:
Wait wait wait. Tom Cable gets the EXCUSE that he had Jamarcus Russell forced on him, but Hue Jackson has to man up and win despite everything that happened this year. No excuses. He is paid to win?
Good job junior. You just jumped off the cliff with that one.
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And Cable’s only success gets to be credited to Hue?
Look at you, Wile E. Coyote!!! Watch out for the anvil when you reach the ground.
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hahahahahahahaha
December 13th, 2011 at 10:29 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:22 am
444.mcfadden20. Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:20 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:10 am
416.mcfadden20. Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:08 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:02 am
397.mcfadden20. Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:58 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:51 am
364.mcfadden20. Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:42 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:32 am
347.mcfadden20. Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:31 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:30 am
341.mcfadden20. Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:27 am
RaidingTexas Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:25 am
LA To TheBay Says:
2 ugly losses look bad right now. If he gets us in the playoffs with a MASH unit O and that… D, all is forgiven.
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Well, three ugly losses if you’re talking about blowout losses. And three more mindboggling losses. And not a SINGLE blowout win.
Not sure if I already said this, but there are only two other teams in the AFC that have failed to win by two TDs or more this season: Colts and Browns. That’s really bad company, man. They couldn’t even win convincingly when the team was healthy early in the season.
And before anyone comes back with the “well, Jason Campbell was quarterback early in the season” argument, I should not have to remind you that the Raiders had 5 multiple TD margin victories last season with him as quarterback. FIVE!
The team has regressed with Hue Jackson as coach. The evidence is there.
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You don’t win by blowouts if your D is letting the other team score on will tooo…… thought you guys were smart
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The defense sucked last year and we got blowout wins….sorry your argument doesnt hold water
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sorry but our D is not even on last years level , it only got worse
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nothing from nothing leaves nothing…you must not watch football…check it out…im at every game so i see what u dont see
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AGain our D is allowing 27+ this year compared to last year allowed less than 23 … Last year we had Mcfadden healthy n ford healthy, Campbell healthy n compared to this year .worse D n top 0 players out , so how do you suggest we blow teams out? Ask Bresh to get his D to play like RAvens D lmfao… Ask Scrub wide receivers to PLay like # 1? ask Bush to replicate Mcfadden? lmfao
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and we had a worse dhb and a worse oline so spare me your chicken schit argument
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again stop talking out of your @ss , last years team had easier schedule n only finished 8-8 thanks to a good run in the end, they beat up on very bad teams , n n they did not beat one good team at all… they didn;t win outside of division..n WE would b 4-0 against AFC west right now as well if we didn’t had to go through replacing starting quarterback with one of the worst backups ever only a week before n we didn’t had to ask our NEW QB who only had 2 weeks with team to score 30 plus against broncos, because our D made Tebow look like HOF
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Easier schedule? This is the fkin NFL man….that bs is an excuse…must be a democrat
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WTF is Democrat or any of that bull$hit , i don’t give a $hit about the political stuff… If you look against the teams they faced last year .. most of the teams they faced had really bad records n they only won 8 games? i mean its not like those teams saved their Best games for Raiders and no Wins against good opponents ? i mean you can put SD and KC in that category but they are not good IMO
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you make excuses like a democrat…understand sarcasm you jcat! and you still making excuses…sad for a grown man to do that
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Hey man just giving you valid points thats all, you don’t need to make childish remarks … Just saying even Lombardi wouldn’t have went anywhere with our team this year … if he had to go through alot of stuff like that… but oh yeah lets Fire our Rookie Coach who only had a short season to prepare our team ,n lets not give him chance to grow into his role n see what he does with competent D, full training camp , bringing more depth next year .. Really man ? I think even Al Davis would call you stupid for firing a coach after his first year lmfao
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Al never fired a rookie coach? Rookie coaches dont get fired?
Childish remarks? Not if true…well kids do usually tell truth lol
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Al never fired a Rookie coach in his first year or let go any coach in his first year with the team go unless they stunk it up 2-14 like Art Shell …I don’t remember the last time a team fired their Rookie coach in the nfl n u wanna fire a Rookie coach who might end up 10-6 with the worst D(Al Davis 70s scheme) in the league
December 13th, 2011 at 10:29 am
“These last two weren’t just losses because of the shortcomings in personnel available to play, those were losses where the whole team fails to show up, and in the famous words of Monte Poole “left their manhood spread out in Sun Life Stadium.” If the team left their “manhood” in Miami, how were they going to show up in GB?
Something must have happened and it’s a shame. Someone has to be responsible, guess what? It’s all on HueSux, said so himself.”
Nice post Zopi!
December 13th, 2011 at 10:29 am
Morning DMAC!
December 13th, 2011 at 10:29 am
If only fans could will a team to championships.
December 13th, 2011 at 10:30 am
hwnrdr Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:29 am
Morning DMAC!
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Wassup Hwnrdr
U just saved everyone, a well then……….
FK u guys 2 this morn
lol
December 13th, 2011 at 10:31 am
What up DMAC?
December 13th, 2011 at 10:31 am
Can you name me any ROOKIE HC’s that have ever been fired after just one season? Not HC’s in their first year with the team, but previous HC experience. Actually FIRST TIME HCs?
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Anyone? Can anyone answer this. Go ahead. I’ll wait.
December 13th, 2011 at 10:32 am
What up Thec
You check out the slaps?
December 13th, 2011 at 10:32 am
By the way some of you fans are such hypocrites’ man and straight up prejudice. When Cable was winning a game here and a game there you were all over the big guys jock strap.
If JC would have thrown 4 INTS in one game you all would have wanted him benched or cut from the team. But Palmer throws 4 INTS averages about 2 a game and you want to give him a pass.
I really don’t know why I am trying to talk sense to you guys any how. I don’t think you really know the condition of this team. The Raiders have been a project for over a decade. It is hard to believe we even have a shot at the playoffs under Hue’s watch. I don’t like everything he does but outside of the Green bay game it has been more entertaining.
December 13th, 2011 at 10:32 am
FK u guys 2 this morn
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I was trying to save everyone my man Hwnrdr beat me to it…
December 13th, 2011 at 10:32 am
zopi Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:26 am
It’s one thing to play poorly as a team because of injuries, all teams have them, case in point GB last season and Texas this season. Another is to not show up to a game. Hard to believe that high-paid players, making elite-type of cash, professionals in all sense of the word, not to “show up” for a game. One day, HueSux calls Seymour a “rock,” after yet another ejection and personal foul. The next game, Big Rich was there, even playing in special teams, at least I thought I saw him late, but he didn’t make a single tackle, as Romo calls it, you have to really not try to not make a single tackle, as a defensive tackle! That’s too cold.
HueSux tells the team that there has to consequences for your behavior, next day McClain is playing and carrying on like a complete moron, graduated from fool, dude, as much as don’t like the Bay Area press (with exceptions), the media is us, the fans (it should be). That’s how fans know what and who you are, to support or not support you. You might not like Cork, not many of us do, but dude, play it straight, not like that joker face you gave us.
All of these matters play up for the HC, it shows players either checking out (Seymour) or being reckless (McClain), and by not taking action it sets the wrong tone. How else can you explain such a meltdown?
These last two weren’t just losses because of the shortcomings in personnel available to play, those were losses where the whole team fails to show up, and in the famous words of Monte Poole “left their manhood spread out in Sun Life Stadium.” If the team left their “manhood” in Miami, how were they going to show up in GB?
Something must have happened and it’s a shame. Someone has to be responsible, guess what? It’s all on HueSux, said so himself.
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1. They have coaches who are in the their 5th or 6th years
2. they don’t have AL davis 70s D scheme
December 13th, 2011 at 10:33 am
DMAC Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:32 am
What up Thec
You check out the slaps?
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Yep, nice…Kepp up the good work. You get down with any of the other Bay cats?
December 13th, 2011 at 10:34 am
DMAC, keep ya Sh1t real and do not, i repeat do not go commercial….
December 13th, 2011 at 10:35 am
Don’t even let me get started with the love affair you all had over Grads. Oh my goodness you would have thought he was the next coming of Joe Montana to the bay area.
If you can’t see that on this blog than you are blind and full of $#!T!!!!
December 13th, 2011 at 10:35 am
1. They have coaches who are in the their 5th or 6th years
2. they don’t have AL davis 70s D scheme
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Sorry dude. There are no excuses for losing (unless you are Tom Cable… he is allowed)
December 13th, 2011 at 10:35 am
Good morning DMAC
December 13th, 2011 at 10:36 am
Thec07 Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:33 am
DMAC Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:32 am
What up Thec
You check out the slaps?
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Yep, nice…Kepp up the good work. You get down with any of the other Bay cats?
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Not really. My cousin does manage this dude named Tay Ruk. He suppose to be dropping his album soon. He came to the studio a few times to feat on a few tracks.
(I should promoting are schit a little more, but I ain’t really trippin)
I do this schit for fun
December 13th, 2011 at 10:36 am
Yeah where did anybody hear Hue lost the locker room ? besides hearsay …I don’t know how you lose locker room when he calls all the players their sons and all the teammates are brothers to each other.. u guys are just something
December 13th, 2011 at 10:36 am
CJ Legend 34 Says:
I don’t like everything he does but outside of the Green bay game it has been more entertaining.
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You found the KC and Miami games entertaining?
December 13th, 2011 at 10:36 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:35 am
Good morning DMAC
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Wassup 666
December 13th, 2011 at 10:36 am
His sons **^^
December 13th, 2011 at 10:37 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:26 am
You guys are fans…ive never been a fan
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LOL.
You transcend fandom? Unless you get a paycheck from the Raiders, you are a lowly fan like the rest of us.
December 13th, 2011 at 10:37 am
Hue Jackson fired after this season?
Hard to say. If he wins 2 out of the last 3, I think he is safe.
But if he goes 8-8 and chokes the late part of the season away by going 1-4, then I think he is certainly going to come under fire. If he had his team ready and competative, even with the injuries, then I think he might even survive 8-8, but that just simply didn’t happen, and just being competative with KC and SD isn’t going to save him from the past two performances.
Hue had his shot to take over the entire franchise, and if he had taken the team to 10-6 or 11-5, I think Mark and Amy would have left him in charge, but he didn’t get it done, so now Hue will be looking at them hiring a GM.
Unless you are a special HC, you do not get a say in who your GM will be, and I don’t think Hue earned the right to tell the Raiders who should be the GM, so the new GM will have no ties to Hue, and every GM wants to have “their guy” in as head coach.
So, if we go 7-9 or 8-8 and we have a new GM, I think Hue is gone. If we go 9-7 or 10-6, I think the new GM will be forced to give Hue another shot.
Just my viewpoint.
December 13th, 2011 at 10:38 am
Thec07 Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:34 am
DMAC, keep ya Sh1t real and do not, i repeat do not go commercial….
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Its all gutta.
I don’t even know how to sample songs yet. (lol)
We all original.
Got some hot tracks that I aint even put up yet.
December 13th, 2011 at 10:39 am
A blog divided.
Hue Sucks Camp or Hue Doing Admirable Job Considering Camp
December 13th, 2011 at 10:40 am
LA to TheBay Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:37 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:26 am
You guys are fans…ive never been a fan
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LOL.
You transcend fandom? Unless you get a paycheck from the Raiders, you are a lowly fan like the rest of us.
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Something my pops always tells me after a ugly Raider loss to cheer me up………
“At the end of the day son, those fkers make millions of $$$. We see none of that.”
December 13th, 2011 at 10:40 am
*competitive*…that one always gets me.
December 13th, 2011 at 10:41 am
CJ Legend 34 Says:
Don’t even let me get started with the love affair you all had over Grads. Oh my goodness you would have thought he was the next coming of Joe Montana to the bay area.
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I’m not sure who you’re talking to. But I was one of the guys here who said all along Gradkowski was nothing but a backup in the NFL. Feel free to look in the archives. I ridiculed his fans as much as anyone. Dude had heart, but he threw ducks. No way he would ever be a legit NFL starter.
So don’t start lumping the Hue detractors in with the Grads lovers. Apples and oranges. There’s no connection there.
December 13th, 2011 at 10:42 am
bcz24 Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:35 am
1. They have coaches who are in the their 5th or 6th years
2. they don’t have AL davis 70s D scheme
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Sorry dude. There are no excuses for losing (unless you are Tom Cable… he is allowed)
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Ain’t excuses i’m just saying 1.Hue is a Rookie and still 7-6 n could end up 10-6 n in the playoffs with Backup Running back and back up WR with no Depth now tell me how is the guy going to get the depth in his first year n compensate for all the injuries/n last but not least he didn’t pick Chuck Breshnahan to lead his D in points allowed n rushing yards allowed ? Did He?
December 13th, 2011 at 10:42 am
469.mcfadden20. Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:29 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:22 am
444.mcfadden20. Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:20 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:10 am
416.mcfadden20. Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:08 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:02 am
397.mcfadden20. Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:58 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:51 am
364.mcfadden20. Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:42 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:32 am
347.mcfadden20. Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:31 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:30 am
341.mcfadden20. Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:27 am
RaidingTexas Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:25 am
LA To TheBay Says:
2 ugly losses look bad right now. If he gets us in the playoffs with a MASH unit O and that… D, all is forgiven.
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Well, three ugly losses if you’re talking about blowout losses. And three more mindboggling losses. And not a SINGLE blowout win.
Not sure if I already said this, but there are only two other teams in the AFC that have failed to win by two TDs or more this season: Colts and Browns. That’s really bad company, man. They couldn’t even win convincingly when the team was healthy early in the season.
And before anyone comes back with the “well, Jason Campbell was quarterback early in the season” argument, I should not have to remind you that the Raiders had 5 multiple TD margin victories last season with him as quarterback. FIVE!
The team has regressed with Hue Jackson as coach. The evidence is there.
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You don’t win by blowouts if your D is letting the other team score on will tooo…… thought you guys were smart
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The defense sucked last year and we got blowout wins….sorry your argument doesnt hold water
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sorry but our D is not even on last years level , it only got worse
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nothing from nothing leaves nothing…you must not watch football…check it out…im at every game so i see what u dont see
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AGain our D is allowing 27+ this year compared to last year allowed less than 23 … Last year we had Mcfadden healthy n ford healthy, Campbell healthy n compared to this year .worse D n top 0 players out , so how do you suggest we blow teams out? Ask Bresh to get his D to play like RAvens D lmfao… Ask Scrub wide receivers to PLay like # 1? ask Bush to replicate Mcfadden? lmfao
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and we had a worse dhb and a worse oline so spare me your chicken schit argument
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again stop talking out of your @ss , last years team had easier schedule n only finished 8-8 thanks to a good run in the end, they beat up on very bad teams , n n they did not beat one good team at all… they didn;t win outside of division..n WE would b 4-0 against AFC west right now as well if we didn’t had to go through replacing starting quarterback with one of the worst backups ever only a week before n we didn’t had to ask our NEW QB who only had 2 weeks with team to score 30 plus against broncos, because our D made Tebow look like HOF
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Easier schedule? This is the fkin NFL man….that bs is an excuse…must be a democrat
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WTF is Democrat or any of that bull$hit , i don’t give a $hit about the political stuff… If you look against the teams they faced last year .. most of the teams they faced had really bad records n they only won 8 games? i mean its not like those teams saved their Best games for Raiders and no Wins against good opponents ? i mean you can put SD and KC in that category but they are not good IMO
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you make excuses like a democrat…understand sarcasm you jcat! and you still making excuses…sad for a grown man to do that
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Hey man just giving you valid points thats all, you don’t need to make childish remarks … Just saying even Lombardi wouldn’t have went anywhere with our team this year … if he had to go through alot of stuff like that… but oh yeah lets Fire our Rookie Coach who only had a short season to prepare our team ,n lets not give him chance to grow into his role n see what he does with competent D, full training camp , bringing more depth next year .. Really man ? I think even Al Davis would call you stupid for firing a coach after his first year lmfao
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Al never fired a rookie coach? Rookie coaches dont get fired?
Childish remarks? Not if true…well kids do usually tell truth lol
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Al never fired a Rookie coach in his first year or let go any coach in his first year with the team go unless they stunk it up 2-14 like Art Shell …I don’t remember the last time a team fired their Rookie coach in the nfl n u wanna fire a Rookie coach who might end up 10-6 with the worst D(Al Davis 70s scheme) in the league
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you sure?
December 13th, 2011 at 10:44 am
LA to TheBay Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:37 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:26 am
You guys are fans…ive never been a fan
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LOL.
You transcend fandom? Unless you get a paycheck from the Raiders, you are a lowly fan like the rest of us.
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look btch…im not a fan..im not some sorry sack of schit like you are….Raiders bigger than football but you not from up here so u dont get it
December 13th, 2011 at 10:44 am
OK you guys are right for every player who gets a penalty over three this year Hue will cut them from the team. Well looks like the entire Raiders organization has been disbanded.
Do you know how much money they got wrapped up in players like McClain? With all the injuries on this team and the weak LBs already, while they are trying to make a playoff run you bet your @$$. Like it or not McClain is playing until found guilty. I think a number of these players are as dumb as rocks, but I don’t blame Hue for that. I am sure a number of players will not be on this team if Hue continues to coach.
Hue can work the $#!t out of these guys at practice but this is the NFL man. They are play to win! Do you think if the league did not tell the Lion’s Suh was not playing that he would not be on that field? These guys are big money investments man.
Good call future GMs’ !!! Way to keep it real.
December 13th, 2011 at 10:45 am
I can’t remember the last time a team brought a Rookie head coach and said look you have to b better than 8-8 or else your gone … or even fans … i mean you would think we been winning sbs consistently for this much outrage over a good season in so freaking long
December 13th, 2011 at 10:45 am
look btch…im not a fan..im not some sorry sack of schit like you are….Raiders bigger than football but you not from up here so u dont get it
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Considering the amount of time you spend here? Sorry dude. You’re a fan. There’s no other word for it.
December 13th, 2011 at 10:46 am
Marshall is starting to look like D!ck Labeau compared to Bres
December 13th, 2011 at 10:46 am
LA just cuz you are a sorry ass fan doesnt make me one…in 2001 I told Vella im not a fan and why….Raider legend and part of greatest oline ever told me that is money and how more people should be…so go fk yourself
December 13th, 2011 at 10:47 am
Just talked to a Rams fan…he believes Spags is gone…
December 13th, 2011 at 10:47 am
I actually liked Marshall. Would have enjoyed seeing what he could do without Al looking over his shoulder. His Seahawks defenses weren’t bad.
Still hoping for a Spagnuolo/Mike Waufle reunion. Although Del Rio wouldn’t be a bad choice, either.
December 13th, 2011 at 10:47 am
502.YoungAmerican Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:45 am
look btch…im not a fan..im not some sorry sack of schit like you are….Raiders bigger than football but you not from up here so u dont get it
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Considering the amount of time you spend here? Sorry dude. You’re a fan. There’s no other word for it.
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im not a fan…you not from here so you are a fan most definitely…maybe you should view Rebels of Oakland again and see why folks here arent fans….it goes way above your head cuz its something you cant grasp
December 13th, 2011 at 10:47 am
just like YA cant grasp the fact that if hue loses the team he has to go
December 13th, 2011 at 10:48 am
CJ Legend 34 Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:44 am
OK you guys are right for every player who gets a penalty over three this year Hue will cut them from the team. Well looks like the entire Raiders organization has been disbanded.
Do you know how much money they got wrapped up in players like McClain? With all the injuries on this team and the weak LBs already, while they are trying to make a playoff run you bet your @$$. Like it or not McClain is playing until found guilty. I think a number of these players are as dumb as rocks, but I don’t blame Hue for that. I am sure a number of players will not be on this team if Hue continues to coach.
Hue can work the $#!t out of these guys at practice but this is the NFL man. They are play to win! Do you think if the league did not tell the Lion’s Suh was not playing that he would not be on that field? These guys are big money investments man.
Good call future GMs’ !!! Way to keep it real.
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December 13th, 2011 at 10:48 am
and YA i spend time generally mon to fri 7amish to 5pmish…and most of the way thats it….so spare me your garbage
December 13th, 2011 at 10:48 am
Has Hue lost the team? Are you in the locker room? Oh wait, you’re not, because you’re a fan.
December 13th, 2011 at 10:49 am
“I can’t remember the last time a team brought a Rookie head coach and said look you have to b better than 8-8 or else your gone … ”
And I can’t remember a time when a head coach was handed an 8-8 team, can you?
December 13th, 2011 at 10:49 am
If Marshall is retained we are leading our division right now and Hue could be focused 100% on his lackluster Offense instead of trying to get Bres on track.
Maybe McClain is my next project I turned SeaPerch back into SeaBass. R Seymour was a failed project…..McClain you are next man up buddy!
December 13th, 2011 at 10:50 am
LA…you’re a mixed guy….if someone said you were white or maybe said you are black you would correct them right? well cuz no one is gonna tell you what u are right? please spare me your garbage
December 13th, 2011 at 10:51 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:47 am
just like YA cant grasp the fact that if hue loses the team he has to go
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Where did you hear he lost the team? I don’t remember last coach calling his players by Son n calling their teammates brothers …
December 13th, 2011 at 10:51 am
Fingers < Has silver & Black Blood…. Eastbay raised …
December 13th, 2011 at 10:52 am
Come on guys, are we really arguing about what makes one a fan or what doesn’t?
Anyways, would love to see a Spags/Waufle reunion!
December 13th, 2011 at 10:52 am
511.YoungAmerican Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:48 am
Has Hue lost the team? Are you in the locker room? Oh wait, you’re not, because you’re a fan.
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dumbass i said if…didnt say he did…you can read right dummy?
im not a fan…sorry im never on your low ass level buddy…and you know why…i didnt hop on becuz i liked the raider unlike most of yall…you dont get it and never will
December 13th, 2011 at 10:52 am
496.RaidingTexas Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:41 am
CJ Legend 34 Says:
Don’t even let me get started with the love affair you all had over Grads. Oh my goodness you would have thought he was the next coming of Joe Montana to the bay area.
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I’m not sure who you’re talking to. But I was one of the guys here who said all along Gradkowski was nothing but a backup in the NFL. Feel free to look in the archives. I ridiculed his fans as much as anyone. Dude had heart, but he threw ducks. No way he would ever be a legit NFL starter.
So don’t start lumping the Hue detractors in with the Grads lovers. Apples and oranges. There’s no connection there.
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RaidingTexas when did I call you out?
If the shoe don’t fit don’t wear it.
To answer your other questions I don’t ever find it entertaining to see the Raiders lose a game. I am just saying for a long time before Hue coached this team, I did not expect us to even win the game. Hue has been piecing things together with “project developing players.” I don’t like every call he makes or statements but if he does not think outside of the box with the key injuries we have had on this team, we lose the game.
December 13th, 2011 at 10:52 am
Here are my thoughts on why Hue should STAY at least another year……….
Rookie HC
Has Bres at DC by default
Lost Al Davis during the season
The McClain incident
The CJ incident
++++ All the injuries on the offense
(including his starting QB and MVP RB)
Dude deserves another shot in my book.
December 13th, 2011 at 10:52 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:49 am
“I can’t remember the last time a team brought a Rookie head coach and said look you have to b better than 8-8 or else your gone … ”
And I can’t remember a time when a head coach was handed an 8-8 team, can you?
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happens alot of times.. when coaches retire
December 13th, 2011 at 10:53 am
515.mcfadden20. Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:51 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:47 am
just like YA cant grasp the fact that if hue loses the team he has to go
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Where did you hear he lost the team? I don’t remember last coach calling his players by Son n calling their teammates brothers …
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i said if….can you read?
December 13th, 2011 at 10:54 am
Hue has done some good things and done some bad things. Let’s see how we finish the final 3, and what happens concerning the playoffs.
Then next year, we have another opportunity to improve even more.
December 13th, 2011 at 10:54 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:52 am
511.YoungAmerican Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:48 am
Has Hue lost the team? Are you in the locker room? Oh wait, you’re not, because you’re a fan.
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dumbass i said if…didnt say he did…you can read right dummy?
im not a fan…sorry im never on your low ass level buddy…and you know why…i didnt hop on becuz i liked the raider unlike most of yall…you dont get it and never will
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So you’re not in the locker room. Got it.
Not on the payroll, either, I suspect, otherwise you wouldn’t spend so much time here.
And given your god-awful grammar you’re definitely not a journalist.
So… you’re a fan.
December 13th, 2011 at 10:55 am
hwnrdr Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:52 am
Come on guys, are we really arguing about what makes one a fan or what doesn’t?
Anyways, would love to see a Spags/Waufle reunion!
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Yeah, not bad.
Bres should of been gone a few months ago.
December 13th, 2011 at 10:55 am
YA…you dont get it becuz you dont have capacity to get it…its like talking astrophysics with a fkin drunk lol
December 13th, 2011 at 10:55 am
Who would be the best GM candidate?
December 13th, 2011 at 10:56 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:53 am
515.mcfadden20. Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:51 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:47 am
just like YA cant grasp the fact that if hue loses the team he has to go
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Where did you hear he lost the team? I don’t remember last coach calling his players by Son n calling their teammates brothers …
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i said if….can you read?
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oh okay but i don’t think rookie coach who took his team to winning record losing his locker room anyways unless he goes out n slaps seymour or something
December 13th, 2011 at 10:56 am
YoungAmerican Says:
Has Hue lost the team? Are you in the locker room? Oh wait, you’re not, because you’re a fan.
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I remember hearing that same argument being used against Cowboys fans last season right before Wade was fired. LOL
Where there’s smoke, there’s usually fire. If rumors are starting to circulate that the veterans were not happy about McClain being active for Miami, then the team goes out and lays down for a bad Fins team one week before they fire their head coach, I’m inclined to believe the rumors. Something is really wrong there.
The thing is, you aren’t going to get a player to say it on record. It’s always like that. Hue clearly plays favorites with players, so you don’t want to get on his bad side by going public with your locker room’s dirty laundry.
December 13th, 2011 at 10:56 am
“happens alot of times.. when coaches retire”
Lets look at that scenario shall we…
Bill Walsh retires and the next year Seifert takes the team to the Super Bowl.
Bill Cower retires and Tomlin goes 10-6 his first year.
I could go on if you want me too…
December 13th, 2011 at 10:57 am
I’m liking Reggie McKenzie … But their are some others that would be cool..
December 13th, 2011 at 10:57 am
hwnrdr Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:55 am
Who would be the best GM candidate?
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Method to My Madness
December 13th, 2011 at 10:57 am
very soon (after the exodus of Norval) HueJack will become the longest tenured HC/OC in the AFC West.
all he needs is a competent DC and a few less key injuries to rule the division and the league.
December 13th, 2011 at 10:57 am
524.YoungAmerican Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:54 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:52 am
511.YoungAmerican Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:48 am
Has Hue lost the team? Are you in the locker room? Oh wait, you’re not, because you’re a fan.
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dumbass i said if…didnt say he did…you can read right dummy?
im not a fan…sorry im never on your low ass level buddy…and you know why…i didnt hop on becuz i liked the raider unlike most of yall…you dont get it and never will
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So you’re not in the locker room. Got it.
Not on the payroll, either, I suspect, otherwise you wouldn’t spend so much time here.
And given your god-awful grammar you’re definitely not a journalist.
So… you’re a fan.
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as ive told many mental midgets and ill tell u the same…this aint grammar school nor english class dummy!….typical slow excuses riddled moron
Being a Raider has nada to do with that…but you not from here so you dont get it….when announcer at game…if you ever been to one…speaks he says …YOUR Oakland Raiders….heard that beforte? Thanks you moron
December 13th, 2011 at 10:57 am
oh okay but i don’t see rookie coach who took his team to winning record losing his locker room .. unless he goes out n slaps seymour or something **^^
December 13th, 2011 at 10:57 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:55 am
YA…you dont get it becuz you dont have capacity to get it…its like talking astrophysics with a fkin drunk lol
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Oh, B. You are literally the only person on the planet who would ever compare you to an astrophysicist, even metaphorically.
You let your emotions run you when you talk about the Raiders. Calling players “b**ches, having clear favorite players, etc.. That makes you more a fan than most folks here.
December 13th, 2011 at 10:58 am
hwnrdr Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:55 am
Who would be the best GM candidate?
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I
(you can trust me fellas)
December 13th, 2011 at 10:58 am
CJ Legend 34 Says:
RaidingTexas when did I call you out?
If the shoe don’t fit don’t wear it.
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That’s why I started with “I don’t know who you’re talking to . . .” Chill out, man.
December 13th, 2011 at 10:59 am
Yes, Oakland is the only place in the world where a team is introduced over the PA as “YOUR ____________.” Totally not something that happens in every city that has professional sports. Gotcha. Totally sensible.
December 13th, 2011 at 10:59 am
Unless of course Mark Davis calls up Chucky and offers him full control as HC and GM of the Silver and Black.
December 13th, 2011 at 11:01 am
Wassup, M?
Don’t know if I would want that one…
December 13th, 2011 at 11:01 am
529.RaidingTexas Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:56 am
YoungAmerican Says:
Has Hue lost the team? Are you in the locker room? Oh wait, you’re not, because you’re a fan.
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I remember hearing that same argument being used against Cowboys fans last season right before Wade was fired. LOL
Where there’s smoke, there’s usually fire. If rumors are starting to circulate that the veterans were not happy about McClain being active for Miami, then the team goes out and lays down for a bad Fins team one week before they fire their head coach, I’m inclined to believe the rumors. Something is really wrong there.
The thing is, you aren’t going to get a player to say it on record. It’s always like that. Hue clearly plays favorites with players, so you don’t want to get on his bad side by going public with your locker room’s dirty laundry.
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you know in life man….some people are in the “i dont believe it until its confirmed” crowd….they cant believe what they even know is quite possibly true…called being in denial
December 13th, 2011 at 11:01 am
DMAC Says:
hwnrdr Says:
Who would be the best GM candidate?
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(you can trust me fellas)
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Well, I suppose any GM is better than no GM, even if it’s you. Anything that takes player transactions out of Hue’s hands is a good start.
December 13th, 2011 at 11:01 am
493.LA to TheBay Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:39 am
A blog divided.
Hue Sucks Camp or Hue Doing Admirable Job Considering Camp
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Unbelievable some of you in here. Was this a super bowl team before the season? If Hue gets us to 8-8 with ALL we had to deal with I’m not too happy but I’m also not trying to fire the guy. Get him a GM…then judge.
You give a little success to the masses…and look what they want now…
December 13th, 2011 at 11:02 am
I like the prospect of Reggie McKenzie a lot. Ties to the organization, comes from a winning franchise that he helped re-establish as a perennial contender.
December 13th, 2011 at 11:02 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:56 am
“happens alot of times.. when coaches retire”
Lets look at that scenario shall we…
Bill Walsh retires and the next year Seifert takes the team to the Super Bowl.
Bill Cower retires and Tomlin goes 10-6 his first year.
I could go on if you want me too…
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Did they also Had CHuck B as their D coordinator pushed on them by the owner? Did they also had 8 years run of bad football before that season ? Did their Qb get injured midway through the season n they had to find his replacement? Did they had their Starting RB and Starting Wide Receivers out most of the year as well ?
December 13th, 2011 at 11:03 am
RaidingTexas Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 11:01 am
DMAC Says:
hwnrdr Says:
Who would be the best GM candidate?
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I
(you can trust me fellas)
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Well, I suppose any GM is better than no GM, even if it’s you. Anything that takes player transactions out of Hue’s hands is a good start.
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Soooooo, where do I sign?
December 13th, 2011 at 11:03 am
Raider Nation-Station
NEW!~ 12-13-11: THE NEED FOR SPEED
“Fighter pilots having a saying, “Speed is life”. For the Oakland Raiders, this axiom is particularly true.”
http://www.raidernationstation.com/raider_war_room
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This is why we need them back soooo desperately…
December 13th, 2011 at 11:03 am
Nobody Likes Reggie Mac for GM?… Then throw out some names…no need to hate on eachother over this…..
December 13th, 2011 at 11:03 am
Method To My Madness Says:
you know in life man….some people are in the “i dont believe it until its confirmed” crowd….they cant believe what they even know is quite possibly true…called being in denial
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I know, bro. It’s the elephant in the room syndrome. We see it everywhere in life.
December 13th, 2011 at 11:03 am
536.YoungAmerican Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:57 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:55 am
YA…you dont get it becuz you dont have capacity to get it…its like talking astrophysics with a fkin drunk lol
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Oh, B. You are literally the only person on the planet who would ever compare you to an astrophysicist, even metaphorically.
You let your emotions run you when you talk about the Raiders. Calling players “b**ches, having clear favorite players, etc.. That makes you more a fan than most folks here.
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has nada to do with favorites cuz on this blog and archives will prove it…guys who i backed up, when they sucked and underachieved i aced them. Yes some players are btches…this fact
You last sentence made no sense and shows you are scrambling now
December 13th, 2011 at 11:04 am
Hue should be a politician because he says all the right things and comes through on none of it.
December 13th, 2011 at 11:04 am
529.RaidingTexas Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:56 am
YoungAmerican Says:
Has Hue lost the team? Are you in the locker room? Oh wait, you’re not, because you’re a fan.
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I remember hearing that same argument being used against Cowboys fans last season right before Wade was fired. LOL
Where there’s smoke, there’s usually fire. If rumors are starting to circulate that the veterans were not happy about McClain being active for Miami, then the team goes out and lays down for a bad Fins team one week before they fire their head coach, I’m inclined to believe the rumors. Something is really wrong there.
The thing is, you aren’t going to get a player to say it on record. It’s always like that. Hue clearly plays favorites with players, so you don’t want to get on his bad side by going public with your locker room’s dirty laundry.
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WTF??????????????????????????????????????????
OK Raiding the state of Texas are you really trying to say you think that the veterans on the team would go lay down because they were mad at Hue???????
LMFAO!!!! These guys are paid money based on their performance even if it is goingt o play for another team. Not to mention do you think their pride and egos are that small in the NFL that they would just blow a game and get beat down and dominated at the line of scrimage to get back at the coach?????
Wow!!! I guess you will be staring in the next X-Files movie as well.
Hue plays favorites? Wow, never knew how many great TX fans had access to the Raider’s locker room in OAKLAND!!!! I guess you hang out with Jerry Jones in his special suite as well?
Could someone please talk football facts, stats, plays for real!
December 13th, 2011 at 11:05 am
550.RaidingTexas Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 11:03 am
Method To My Madness Says:
you know in life man….some people are in the “i dont believe it until its confirmed” crowd….they cant believe what they even know is quite possibly true…called being in denial
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I know, bro. It’s the elephant in the room syndrome. We see it everywhere in life.
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its sad on here…cuz we got many who are in denial….week 9 i spoke on it about hue playing favs…look at us now
December 13th, 2011 at 11:06 am
532.JR Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:57 am
hwnrdr Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:55 am
Who would be the best GM candidate?
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Method to My Madness
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lmao post of the year
December 13th, 2011 at 11:06 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 11:01 am
529.RaidingTexas Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:56 am
YoungAmerican Says:
Has Hue lost the team? Are you in the locker room? Oh wait, you’re not, because you’re a fan.
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I remember hearing that same argument being used against Cowboys fans last season right before Wade was fired. LOL
Where there’s smoke, there’s usually fire. If rumors are starting to circulate that the veterans were not happy about McClain being active for Miami, then the team goes out and lays down for a bad Fins team one week before they fire their head coach, I’m inclined to believe the rumors. Something is really wrong there.
The thing is, you aren’t going to get a player to say it on record. It’s always like that. Hue clearly plays favorites with players, so you don’t want to get on his bad side by going public with your locker room’s dirty laundry.
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you know in life man….some people are in the “i dont believe it until its confirmed” crowd….they cant believe what they even know is quite possibly true…called being in denial
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Well its better to just stay quiet and quit making assumtions ..it’s the reasons relationships don’t last long
December 13th, 2011 at 11:06 am
549.fingers Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 11:03 am
Nobody Likes Reggie Mac for GM?… Then throw out some names…no need to hate on eachother over this…..
I would take McKenzie…however, someone brought up a good point…should we go after a proven one? Although how many of them are out there that does not have contractual ties?
December 13th, 2011 at 11:06 am
545.YoungAmerican Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 11:02 am
I like the prospect of Reggie McKenzie a lot. Ties to the organization, comes from a winning franchise that he helped re-establish as a perennial contender.
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Agree!
December 13th, 2011 at 11:08 am
I remember hearing that same argument being used against Cowboys fans last season right before Wade was fired. LOL
Where there’s smoke, there’s usually fire. If rumors are starting to circulate that the veterans were not happy about McClain being active for Miami, then the team goes out and lays down for a bad Fins team one week before they fire their head coach, I’m inclined to believe the rumors. Something is really wrong there.
The thing is, you aren’t going to get a player to say it on record. It’s always like that. Hue clearly plays favorites with players, so you don’t want to get on his bad side by going public with your locker room’s dirty laundry.
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On a team filled with players who are used to an organization that never asked them to be accountable? There’s any number of reasons random players could be pissed off at Hue. But I don’t pretend to be able to draw conclusions from anything because I’m not there.
The people who know? They’ll be hiring a GM in the offseason. If that GM knows that Hue has lost the locker room, then he’ll be gone along with all the players that have been mailing it in, who haven’t lived up to the size of their contracts.
I’ll take what I see in front of me over any of that. And what I see is a football team that has lacked discipline for 20 years, if not more. Hard to blame a head coach who didn’t build the roster for those problems.
December 13th, 2011 at 11:08 am
look btch…im not a fan..im not some sorry sack of schit like you are….Raiders bigger than football but you not from up here so u dont get it
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So you’re a big fan.
Got it.
December 13th, 2011 at 11:09 am
556.mcfadden20. Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 11:06 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 11:01 am
529.RaidingTexas Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:56 am
YoungAmerican Says:
Has Hue lost the team? Are you in the locker room? Oh wait, you’re not, because you’re a fan.
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I remember hearing that same argument being used against Cowboys fans last season right before Wade was fired. LOL
Where there’s smoke, there’s usually fire. If rumors are starting to circulate that the veterans were not happy about McClain being active for Miami, then the team goes out and lays down for a bad Fins team one week before they fire their head coach, I’m inclined to believe the rumors. Something is really wrong there.
The thing is, you aren’t going to get a player to say it on record. It’s always like that. Hue clearly plays favorites with players, so you don’t want to get on his bad side by going public with your locker room’s dirty laundry.
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you know in life man….some people are in the “i dont believe it until its confirmed” crowd….they cant believe what they even know is quite possibly true…called being in denial
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Well its better to just stay quiet and quit making assumtions ..it’s the reasons relationships don’t last long
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That’s to logical Mcfadden 20. It does not make for a good story for most fans. They like to talk like they’re in the locker room.
December 13th, 2011 at 11:09 am
Raider Nation-Station
By compare…Lets say Bob Kraft died. Tom Brady breaks a collar bone and OUT. WR Wes Welker with a Lisfranc and hes OUT. WR DeIon Branch OUT, RDE Andre Carter, shoulder injury OUT. CB Devin McCourty OUT. Head Coach whats his cheating face replaced by a ROOKIE.
You think the Patriots would still have a shot at the play offs?
RAIDER NATION…
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Amen…
December 13th, 2011 at 11:09 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 11:06 am
532.JR Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:57 am
hwnrdr Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:55 am
Who would be the best GM candidate?
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Method to My Madness
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lmao post of the year
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Naw, hell naw.
B couldn’t match my management skills.
lol
December 13th, 2011 at 11:10 am
Hwnrdr,
just checked in to witness what the gabfest is about in here today.
most of it seems like Hue-hating. first Eaider HC with a winning record this late in the season since before the Iraq War started and people are ready to schyt-can him. fanatics can truly be idiots.
how’s the life with you?
December 13th, 2011 at 11:10 am
Hue’s not going anywhere. You guys need to get real.
December 13th, 2011 at 11:10 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 11:05 am
550.RaidingTexas Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 11:03 am
Method To My Madness Says:
you know in life man….some people are in the “i dont believe it until its confirmed” crowd….they cant believe what they even know is quite possibly true…called being in denial
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I know, bro. It’s the elephant in the room syndrome. We see it everywhere in life.
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its sad on here…cuz we got many who are in denial….week 9 i spoke on it about hue playing favs…look at us now
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Who the heck are his favorites? I don’t see any new players he brought to the team starting starting besides Curry overs Groves and Palmer over Boller
December 13th, 2011 at 11:10 am
Mcfadden20. Says:
Did they also Had CHuck B as their D coordinator pushed on them by the owner?
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So Hue gets a pass for having Chuck B thrown on him, but Cable doesn’t get a pass for having Jamarcus thrown on him? And Hue gets credited for Cable’s 8 wins last season. That’s your line of thinking. LOL
You’re unbelievable, man. I hope you aren’t expected to do any analysis where you work. If you are, and you’re at a publicly traded company, tell me the ticker symbol so I can short the stock and sell some calls.
December 13th, 2011 at 11:10 am
DMAC Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 11:09 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 11:06 am
532.JR Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:57 am
hwnrdr Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:55 am
Who would be the best GM candidate?
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Method to My Madness
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lmao post of the year
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Naw, hell naw.
B couldn’t match my management skills.
lol
++++++++ he’d be fighting his players
December 13th, 2011 at 11:11 am
Raider HC
December 13th, 2011 at 11:11 am
559.YoungAmerican Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 11:08 am
I remember hearing that same argument being used against Cowboys fans last season right before Wade was fired. LOL
Where there’s smoke, there’s usually fire. If rumors are starting to circulate that the veterans were not happy about McClain being active for Miami, then the team goes out and lays down for a bad Fins team one week before they fire their head coach, I’m inclined to believe the rumors. Something is really wrong there.
The thing is, you aren’t going to get a player to say it on record. It’s always like that. Hue clearly plays favorites with players, so you don’t want to get on his bad side by going public with your locker room’s dirty laundry.
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On a team filled with players who are used to an organization that never asked them to be accountable? There’s any number of reasons random players could be pissed off at Hue. But I don’t pretend to be able to draw conclusions from anything because I’m not there.
The people who know? They’ll be hiring a GM in the offseason. If that GM knows that Hue has lost the locker room, then he’ll be gone along with all the players that have been mailing it in, who haven’t lived up to the size of their contracts.
I’ll take what I see in front of me over any of that. And what I see is a football team that has lacked discipline for 20 years, if not more. Hard to blame a head coach who didn’t build the roster for those problems.
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YougAmerican I could not agree more with your post. We have needed a GM on this team for over a decade. You can’t blame the coach for that but there does need to be more accountability on this team.
December 13th, 2011 at 11:13 am
556.mcfadden20. Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 11:06 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 11:01 am
529.RaidingTexas Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:56 am
YoungAmerican Says:
Has Hue lost the team? Are you in the locker room? Oh wait, you’re not, because you’re a fan.
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I remember hearing that same argument being used against Cowboys fans last season right before Wade was fired. LOL
Where there’s smoke, there’s usually fire. If rumors are starting to circulate that the veterans were not happy about McClain being active for Miami, then the team goes out and lays down for a bad Fins team one week before they fire their head coach, I’m inclined to believe the rumors. Something is really wrong there.
The thing is, you aren’t going to get a player to say it on record. It’s always like that. Hue clearly plays favorites with players, so you don’t want to get on his bad side by going public with your locker room’s dirty laundry.
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you know in life man….some people are in the “i dont believe it until its confirmed” crowd….they cant believe what they even know is quite possibly true…called being in denial
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Well its better to just stay quiet and quit making assumtions ..it’s the reasons relationships don’t last long
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i’ll do and what what the fk i want and not worry bout any consequences…fk a relationship i have relations then bounce
December 13th, 2011 at 11:13 am
Doing good M, can’t complain. Still have a job, no matter what I think of it… all in all, I can still see My Raiders play every Sunday, whether its at home or not!
December 13th, 2011 at 11:13 am
has nada to do with favorites cuz on this blog and archives will prove it…guys who i backed up, when they sucked and underachieved i aced them. Yes some players are btches…this fact
You last sentence made no sense and shows you are scrambling now
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That’s the same thing a jilted lover does, B. You’re so emotional about this team that it comes through in every single post. Even your most reasonable moments tend to be surrounded by super-emotional, irrational ones. And there’s nothing wrong with that. Nothing wrong with being committed to a team so much, because of what they represent, that your desire for them to win comes from your core because they represent YOU.
But it IS wrong to pretend that makes you “more” than a fan somehow. It’s an insult to the organization, and to your fellow fans. And if you somehow consider yourself “more than a fan”, then it reeks of desperation to come disrespect people about it here, because your fragile ego needs e-validation.
December 13th, 2011 at 11:14 am
You can’t blame the coach for that but there does need to be more accountability on this team.
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accountability is all im saying….hue took the job knowing al was almost gone…knowing that quite possibly he would be the gm for a hot second…you chose this route so he gets no excuses from me
December 13th, 2011 at 11:14 am
Sorry for the repost, but since we’re still on the Hue topic here’s mt take………..
Here are my thoughts on why Hue should STAY at least another year……….
Rookie HC
Has Bres at DC by default
Lost Al Davis during the season
(Took over the GM spot)
The McClain incident
The CJ incident
++++ All the injuries on the offense
(including his starting QB and MVP RB)
Dude deserves another shot in my book.
December 13th, 2011 at 11:14 am
Raiding the state of texas if you just man up and admit to not liking Hue period, I will go away.
You keep throwing these hints here and there but you just don’t want to come out and say it. Just say it man! Set yourself free!!! : )
December 13th, 2011 at 11:16 am
573.YoungAmerican Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 11:13 am
has nada to do with favorites cuz on this blog and archives will prove it…guys who i backed up, when they sucked and underachieved i aced them. Yes some players are btches…this fact
You last sentence made no sense and shows you are scrambling now
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That’s the same thing a jilted lover does, B. You’re so emotional about this team that it comes through in every single post. Even your most reasonable moments tend to be surrounded by super-emotional, irrational ones. And there’s nothing wrong with that. Nothing wrong with being committed to a team so much, because of what they represent, that your desire for them to win comes from your core because they represent YOU.
But it IS wrong to pretend that makes you “more” than a fan somehow. It’s an insult to the organization, and to your fellow fans. And if you somehow consider yourself “more than a fan”, then it reeks of desperation to come disrespect people about it here, because your fragile ego needs e-validation.
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no pretending here buddy this is 24/7 for me…i dont have fellow fans maybe you are too slow but IM NOT A FAN
disrespect? dumbschit i told you im not a fan and you continue with it…if you say you aren irish and i call you scotish repeatedly who is disrespecting?
hahahahahaha validation? jcat i get validation everywhere not just on a blog….maybe you can meet me one day when you fly out here and see as to why that is the case
December 13th, 2011 at 11:17 am
Great article by Monte Poole. Finally somebody has to the balls to call like it like it is, and come to the reality of the situation. I can’t wait to see Chuck B be stubborn and act like Routt can cover Calvin Johnson one on one all game long. They better roll coverage and disguise coverages to try and confuse Stafford. Stafford stares down his primary receiver as well. Then again, by trying to disguise coverages, Chuck B and the players on D will confuse themselves! Ugh
http://www.insidebayarea.com/monte-poole/ci_19534378
December 13th, 2011 at 11:17 am
One qulity I like about Hue is he does not make any excuses and he is not scared to try something out of the box from week to week.
December 13th, 2011 at 11:17 am
If we win the next two we are guaranteed to be alive going into Week 17. Possibly with a chance to control our own destiny.
Still can’t get over that Bears choke job. For some reason that one is stinging me more right now than the Raiders debacle.
December 13th, 2011 at 11:18 am
Can’t wait until this team hires a REAL D Coordinator for once after this season!
Steve Spagnolo!!
December 13th, 2011 at 11:18 am
Chris in NY Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 11:17 am
If we win the next two we are guaranteed to be alive going into Week 17. Possibly with a chance to control our own destiny.
Still can’t get over that Bears choke job. For some reason that one is stinging me more right now than the Raiders debacle.
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The Barber fumble?
OUCH! That one still stings!
December 13th, 2011 at 11:18 am
CJ Legend 34 Says:
Raiding the state of texas if you just man up and admit to not liking Hue period, I will go away.
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I DO NOT LIKE HUE.
Scroll up and see what I posted at 8:10 AM in response to Neilb. I have been consistent about Hue all season, even when the team won.
So now you’re going away, right?
December 13th, 2011 at 11:19 am
Great article by Monte Poole. Finally somebody has to the balls to call like it like it is, and come to the reality of the situation. I can’t wait to see Chuck B be stubborn and act like Routt can cover Calvin Johnson one on one all game long. They better roll coverage and disguise coverages to try and confuse Stafford. Stafford stares down his primary receiver as well. Then again, by trying to disguise coverages, Chuck B and the players on D will confuse themselves! Ugh!
http://www.insidebayarea.com/monte-poole/ci_19534378
December 13th, 2011 at 11:19 am
CJ Legend 34 Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 11:09 am
556.mcfadden20. Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 11:06 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 11:01 am
529.RaidingTexas Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:56 am
YoungAmerican Says:
Has Hue lost the team? Are you in the locker room? Oh wait, you’re not, because you’re a fan.
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I remember hearing that same argument being used against Cowboys fans last season right before Wade was fired. LOL
Where there’s smoke, there’s usually fire. If rumors are starting to circulate that the veterans were not happy about McClain being active for Miami, then the team goes out and lays down for a bad Fins team one week before they fire their head coach, I’m inclined to believe the rumors. Something is really wrong there.
The thing is, you aren’t going to get a player to say it on record. It’s always like that. Hue clearly plays favorites with players, so you don’t want to get on his bad side by going public with your locker room’s dirty laundry.
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you know in life man….some people are in the “i dont believe it until its confirmed” crowd….they cant believe what they even know is quite possibly true…called being in denial
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Well its better to just stay quiet and quit making assumtions ..it’s the reasons relationships don’t last long
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That’s to logical Mcfadden 20. It does not make for a good story for most fans. They like to talk like they’re in the locker room.
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LMFAO that’s true , they just want to assume , we are losing because of something unknown going on in the locker room , rather then put the blame on the pathetic 70s D n Injuries… they don’t see how injuries caN affect teams because according to them teams never slow down because of injuries……it’s not a excuse we’ll get back to winning but if you think we’re better off with Scrubs starting at WR’s and beat up player Starting at RB n very bad TE play n combined with bad D that won’t stop anyone to help our O, is not the reason we’re losing than i think u guys should get your heads checked
December 13th, 2011 at 11:19 am
DK, dont forget to tell Spags half time adjustments are stupid.
December 13th, 2011 at 11:19 am
That’s the same thing a jilted lover does, B
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You make zero sense YA….look at my post….you accused me of playing favorites…i countered with saying even my favorites i got on them when it was obvious they werent cutting it….archives prove that so the jilted lover thing holds no water here….back to drawing board again my friend
Its not being emotional….its either 100 or zero…no in betweens….this is what some of yall miss….but i cant fully blame ya cuz you dont understand
December 13th, 2011 at 11:20 am
mcfadden20. Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 11:19 am
CJ Legend 34 Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 11:09 am
556.mcfadden20. Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 11:06 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 11:01 am
529.RaidingTexas Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:56 am
YoungAmerican Says:
Has Hue lost the team? Are you in the locker room? Oh wait, you’re not, because you’re a fan.
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I remember hearing that same argument being used against Cowboys fans last season right before Wade was fired. LOL
Where there’s smoke, there’s usually fire. If rumors are starting to circulate that the veterans were not happy about McClain being active for Miami, then the team goes out and lays down for a bad Fins team one week before they fire their head coach, I’m inclined to believe the rumors. Something is really wrong there.
The thing is, you aren’t going to get a player to say it on record. It’s always like that. Hue clearly plays favorites with players, so you don’t want to get on his bad side by going public with your locker room’s dirty laundry.
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you know in life man….some people are in the “i dont believe it until its confirmed” crowd….they cant believe what they even know is quite possibly true…called being in denial
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Well its better to just stay quiet and quit making assumtions ..it’s the reasons relationships don’t last long
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That’s to logical Mcfadden 20. It does not make for a good story for most fans. They like to talk like they’re in the locker room.
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LMFAO that’s true , they just want to assume , we are losing because of something unknown going on in the locker room , rather then put the blame on the pathetic 70s D n Injuries… they don’t see how injuries caN affect teams because according to them teams never slow down because of injuries……it’s not a excuse we’ll get back to winning but if you think Scrubs starting at WR’s and beat up player Starting at RB n very bad TE play n combined with bad D that won’t stop anyone to help our O, is not the reason we’re losing than i think u guys should get your heads checked***^^^^^^^
December 13th, 2011 at 11:20 am
Fk billups to clippers? damn warriors first game on xmas gonna be dope!
December 13th, 2011 at 11:21 am
Injuries have derailed our season, because we have NO DEPTH at all!
December 13th, 2011 at 11:23 am
588.mcfadden20. Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 11:20 am
mcfadden20. Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 11:19 am
CJ Legend 34 Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 11:09 am
556.mcfadden20. Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 11:06 am
Method To My Madness Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 11:01 am
529.RaidingTexas Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:56 am
YoungAmerican Says:
Has Hue lost the team? Are you in the locker room? Oh wait, you’re not, because you’re a fan.
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I remember hearing that same argument being used against Cowboys fans last season right before Wade was fired. LOL
Where there’s smoke, there’s usually fire. If rumors are starting to circulate that the veterans were not happy about McClain being active for Miami, then the team goes out and lays down for a bad Fins team one week before they fire their head coach, I’m inclined to believe the rumors. Something is really wrong there.
The thing is, you aren’t going to get a player to say it on record. It’s always like that. Hue clearly plays favorites with players, so you don’t want to get on his bad side by going public with your locker room’s dirty laundry.
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you know in life man….some people are in the “i dont believe it until its confirmed” crowd….they cant believe what they even know is quite possibly true…called being in denial
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Well its better to just stay quiet and quit making assumtions ..it’s the reasons relationships don’t last long
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That’s to logical Mcfadden 20. It does not make for a good story for most fans. They like to talk like they’re in the locker room.
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LMFAO that’s true , they just want to assume , we are losing because of something unknown going on in the locker room , rather then put the blame on the pathetic 70s D n Injuries… they don’t see how injuries caN affect teams because according to them teams never slow down because of injuries……it’s not a excuse we’ll get back to winning but if you think Scrubs starting at WR’s and beat up player Starting at RB n very bad TE play n combined with bad D that won’t stop anyone to help our O, is not the reason we’re losing than i think u guys should get your heads checked***^^^^^^^
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Yawwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnn to this….we been known we had ancinet ass D…so what? You still with the excuses. And if you pea brains ever read I said if….if…if…if.. Hue loses locker room then he should be gone….but you cant think there is no reason for people to not think that…its natural because in any profession it doesnt sit well with folks when a supervisor or head boss is playing buddy favs with other employees and folks get the axe for it….tell me im lying on that
December 13th, 2011 at 11:23 am
From Monte Poole:
“The unit has allowed more points per game (27.2) than any team in the AFC except winless Indianapolis. Only one unit in the NFL has allowed more first downs, and no team has given away more first downs by penalty. The run defense ranks 29th overall.
Oakland has allowed more than 30 points to five teams, at least one team every month. It has allowed more than 30 points in a half three times — nearly one-fourth of the schedule.”
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Bye Bye Chuck B, you should have NEVER have been hired in the first place!
December 13th, 2011 at 11:24 am
DMAC We have depth:
Schillens & Murh @ WR
Bush & Jones @ RB
Tonga @ FB
Lito & CJ @ DB
Bryant & Hendu @ DT
MM @ Safety
Problem is we are into our depth and even they are going down!
December 13th, 2011 at 11:24 am
C’mon Dubs!
Kwame Brown?
I know you guys can do better than this!
Hopefully the Clips don’t match the offer for D. Jordan
December 13th, 2011 at 11:24 am
You guys really doubt the human element of these guys becuz they play a brutal game….sad that ya do becuz even under the 6′5 265 lb image they got feelings like we all do
December 13th, 2011 at 11:25 am
Kwame Brown ????
WTF
December 13th, 2011 at 11:25 am
594.DMAC Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 11:24 am
C’mon Dubs!
Kwame Brown?
I know you guys can do better than this!
Hopefully the Clips don’t match the offer for D. Jordan
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oh god…say what? Dont make me puke
December 13th, 2011 at 11:25 am
590.DMAC Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 11:21 am
Injuries have derailed our season, because we have NO DEPTH at all!
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We have depth on offense, but even the depth is banged up!
See D Moore, T Jones, and now Chaz!
December 13th, 2011 at 11:25 am
592.DKnight007 Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 11:23 am
From Monte Poole:
“The unit has allowed more points per game (27.2) than any team in the AFC except winless Indianapolis. Only one unit in the NFL has allowed more first downs, and no team has given away more first downs by penalty. The run defense ranks 29th overall.
Oakland has allowed more than 30 points to five teams, at least one team every month. It has allowed more than 30 points in a half three times — nearly one-fourth of the schedule.”
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Bye Bye Chuck B, you should have NEVER have been hired in the first place!
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I think we can all at least agree on this one??
December 13th, 2011 at 11:26 am
From Monte Poole:
“The unit has allowed more points per game (27.2) than any team in the AFC except winless Indianapolis. Only one unit in the NFL has allowed more first downs, and no team has given away more first downs by penalty. The run defense ranks 29th overall.
Oakland has allowed more than 30 points to five teams, at least one team every month. It has allowed more than 30 points in a half three times — nearly one-fourth of the schedule.”
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Bye Bye Chuck B, you should have NEVER have been hired in the first place!!
December 13th, 2011 at 11:26 am
596.MistaBrown Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 11:25 am
Kwame Brown ????
WTF
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oh wow….this has just ruined my morning! fkin great! i wasn ready now after the long vent to talking in depth about this det game…fkin Warriors! Dammit Kwame Brown cant play dead!
December 13th, 2011 at 11:26 am
Hue Jackson: “sometimes you have to say uncle in this league”
Yeah, and sometimes you have to take a mulligan on your head coaching decision.
Lunch time. I’ll be back to put another Looney Tunes beatdown on some of you later.
December 13th, 2011 at 11:27 am
599.ElkGRaider Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 11:25 am
592.DKnight007 Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 11:23 am
From Monte Poole:
“The unit has allowed more points per game (27.2) than any team in the AFC except winless Indianapolis. Only one unit in the NFL has allowed more first downs, and no team has given away more first downs by penalty. The run defense ranks 29th overall.
Oakland has allowed more than 30 points to five teams, at least one team every month. It has allowed more than 30 points in a half three times — nearly one-fourth of the schedule.”
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Bye Bye Chuck B, you should have NEVER have been hired in the first place!
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I think we can all at least agree on this one??
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Agree? What’s to agree on? Is water wet?
December 13th, 2011 at 11:27 am
MistaBrown Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 11:25 am
Kwame Brown ????
WTF
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1 year $7 mil is the word on the streets
December 13th, 2011 at 11:27 am
no pretending here buddy this is 24/7 for me…i dont have fellow fans maybe you are too slow but IM NOT A FAN
disrespect? dumbschit i told you im not a fan and you continue with it…if you say you aren irish and i call you scotish repeatedly who is disrespecting?
hahahahahaha validation? jcat i get validation everywhere not just on a blog….maybe you can meet me one day when you fly out here and see as to why that is the case
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Yes, you’re not a fan because John Vella placated your delusions once. I’ll tell you one thing. To the organization? You’re a fan. For the other people in the stadium with you? You’re just like them. Fans. Maybe die hard fans, sure. Maybe fans who are fans because of some visceral, emotional connection to the team. Absolutely. Maybe fans because they feel like the Raiders are a part of them. That the represent the outsider, the underdog, the rebel, the outcasts of society who don’t feel the need to play by the same rules as everyone else. For sure.
But that doesn’t mean that you’re not a fan, or that you’re somehow better than anyone else in here, or in the Oakland Coliseum on Sundays, or anywhere else. The fact that you’re engaging in this debate in the first place is a sign of your desperate need to feel superior to others, even in terms of a meaningless title you’ve christened yourself with.
Sorry B. I find you entertaining, and many times I do agree with the things you have to say, but on this? You’re way, way off the reservation.
December 13th, 2011 at 11:27 am
602.RaidingTexas Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 11:26 am
Hue Jackson: “sometimes you have to say uncle in this league”
Yeah, and sometimes you have to take a mulligan on your head coaching decision.
Lunch time. I’ll be back to put another Looney Tunes beatdown on some of you later.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA point!
December 13th, 2011 at 11:28 am
ElkGRaider Says:
Bye Bye Chuck B, you should have NEVER have been hired in the first place!
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I think we can all at least agree on this one??
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Yes we can. And hopefully I’m driving the getaway car.
December 13th, 2011 at 11:31 am
RaidingTexas Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 11:10 am
Mcfadden20. Says:
Did they also Had CHuck B as their D coordinator pushed on them by the owner?
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So Hue gets a pass for having Chuck B thrown on him, but Cable doesn’t get a pass for having Jamarcus thrown on him? And Hue gets credited for Cable’s 8 wins last season. That’s your line of thinking. LOL
You’re unbelievable, man. I hope you aren’t expected to do any analysis where you work. If you are, and you’re at a publicly traded company, tell me the ticker symbol so I can short the stock and sell some calls.
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Never asked for Cable’s head , n he had what like 3 years to get us to 8-8 against a very weak schedule ? n not to forget he also had Campbell last year not Purple drank… n i remember people were being upset over the firing of the coach who only led us to 8-8 in his 2.5 years but those people want HUE’s head 7-6 after 13 games? i remember when we lost Nnamdi during offseason n nobody predicted us to have more than 5 wins but guess what this team already have 7 wins with 3 more to go and they could still make playoffs..
BTW i was asking you about your comments on how Mike Tomlin n Schiefrt (sp) made playoffs in first years after their coaches retired …?
SO did they had to go through all that?
December 13th, 2011 at 11:31 am
604.DMAC Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 11:27 am
MistaBrown Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 11:25 am
Kwame Brown ????
WTF
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1 year $7 mil is the word on the streets
YUCK! What are the Warriors thinking?
December 13th, 2011 at 11:31 am
605.YoungAmerican Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 11:27 am
no pretending here buddy this is 24/7 for me…i dont have fellow fans maybe you are too slow but IM NOT A FAN
disrespect? dumbschit i told you im not a fan and you continue with it…if you say you aren irish and i call you scotish repeatedly who is disrespecting?
hahahahahaha validation? jcat i get validation everywhere not just on a blog….maybe you can meet me one day when you fly out here and see as to why that is the case
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Yes, you’re not a fan because John Vella placated your delusions once. I’ll tell you one thing. To the organization? You’re a fan. For the other people in the stadium with you? You’re just like them. Fans. Maybe die hard fans, sure. Maybe fans who are fans because of some visceral, emotional connection to the team. Absolutely. Maybe fans because they feel like the Raiders are a part of them. That the represent the outsider, the underdog, the rebel, the outcasts of society who don’t feel the need to play by the same rules as everyone else. For sure.
But that doesn’t mean that you’re not a fan, or that you’re somehow better than anyone else in here, or in the Oakland Coliseum on Sundays, or anywhere else. The fact that you’re engaging in this debate in the first place is a sign of your desperate need to feel superior to others, even in terms of a meaningless title you’ve christened yourself with.
Sorry B. I find you entertaining, and many times I do agree with the things you have to say, but on this? You’re way, way off the reservation.
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Vella been seeing me since I was a kid when his store first opened in 1987 and always remembers my face…so the appeasing angle you wanna claim has now been tossed out the window
Feel the need? I am superior to most of yall…that’s just fact…thats not even up for debate. Sorry you guys come too weak and soft to be on a superior level….thats on you not me pal.
Not meaningless title if people refer to me as B@uce even when they meet me in person. Not meaningless whenthey enjoy meeting the B@uce at the tailgates and talking Raider football
Me off the reservation? I must be going to get me another bottle and then come back lol
December 13th, 2011 at 11:31 am
I’ll admit there were times early in the year when I thought Chuck might be ok. At least enough to compete if our offense got going. That feeling quickly evaporated and then JC went down.
Here we are sitting in a kiddie pool full of poop looking up at Tebow.
Fk
December 13th, 2011 at 11:32 am
Could you imagine CP – Griffin on the same squad?
WOW!
That would be nasty!
December 13th, 2011 at 11:32 am
609.hwnrdr Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 11:31 am
604.DMAC Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 11:27 am
MistaBrown Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 11:25 am
Kwame Brown ????
WTF
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1 year $7 mil is the word on the streets
YUCK! What are the Warriors thinking?
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ok…im taking a timeout…gotta go to bathroom and throw up…this has ruined my day…i’ll holla at yall later…..this is sickening…………CODE BLACK
December 13th, 2011 at 11:34 am
METHOD :
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Yawwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnn to this….we been known we had ancinet ass D…so what? You still with the excuses. And if you pea brains ever read I said if….if…if…if.. Hue loses locker room then he should be gone….but you cant think there is no reason for people to not think that…its natural because in any profession it doesnt sit well with folks when a supervisor or head boss is playing buddy favs with other employees and folks get the axe for it….tell me im lying on that
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LIke i said who is he playing buddy fav with ? besides Palmer starting ahead of Boller n CUrry starting ahead of Groves for Obvious reasons because other 2 suck .. so again who is he playing buddy favorites with?
December 13th, 2011 at 11:36 am
Wasn’t that Lechler pass a thing of beauty?
Beautiful tight, spiral ten feet too high though.
December 13th, 2011 at 11:37 am
“BTW i was asking you about your comments on how Mike Tomlin n Schiefrt (sp) made playoffs in first years after their coaches retired …?
SO did they had to go through all that?”
You are mixing apples and oranges here dude. You made the statement that coaches have retired and handed over teams that were 8-8 or better. Yes they had their own cross to bear just as Hue Jackson does.
Remember the argument here is that Cable was 8-8 and we expected Hue Jack to do better its that simple nothing else.
Cable had his problems and Hue has his own set of problems.
December 13th, 2011 at 11:37 am
Fact of the matter is that our defensive scheme just doesn’t work for us. Tommy Kelly is a great pass rushing defensive lineman, but gets shoved around by one guy on run plays. We need linemen that can push the guards backwards. Richard Seymour never gets shoved around, but one guy doesn’t stop the run either. I still think a 3-4 defense helps. Matt Shaughnessy going on injured reserve didn’t help things either. We need a healthy team to move forward. Unfortunately I think we lost too much, and Jason Campbell going down I think was huge. I don’t think we lose the chiefs game for certain.
December 13th, 2011 at 11:39 am
Vella been seeing me since I was a kid when his store first opened in 1987 and always remembers my face…so the appeasing angle you wanna claim has now been tossed out the window
Feel the need? I am superior to most of yall…that’s just fact…thats not even up for debate. Sorry you guys come too weak and soft to be on a superior level….thats on you not me pal.
Not meaningless title if people refer to me as B@uce even when they meet me in person. Not meaningless whenthey enjoy meeting the B@uce at the tailgates and talking Raider football
Me off the reservation? I must be going to get me another bottle and then come back lol
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Fine, then you’re a returning customer he placates. What, John Vella is going to start a fight with you because you consider yourself a superfan?
You are superior? That’s hilarious, man. Seriously funny stuff. I respect that delusions of grandeur get you by, but it’s funny how worked up you get when anyone questions the “authority” that only you perceive you have.
You know Raider football and you’re an entertaining character. Still doesn’t make you better than anyone, although I understand that you want to believe it does.
You sure do put the “meth” in Method, though.
December 13th, 2011 at 11:40 am
I thought Barback 0hbama’s appeasement in the middle east was going to make all the Arab world love us!
lmao @ that…
mope & change
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Iran has–unsurprisingly–rejected an American request to return its downed spy drone.
President 0hbama, speaking at a news conference with the visiting Iraqi prime minister Monday, said the United States had asked Iran to give the downed American reconnaissance plane back.
December 13th, 2011 at 11:43 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 11:37 am
“BTW i was asking you about your comments on how Mike Tomlin n Schiefrt (sp) made playoffs in first years after their coaches retired …?
SO did they had to go through all that?”
You are mixing apples and oranges here dude. You made the statement that coaches have retired and handed over teams that were 8-8 or better. Yes they had their own cross to bear just as Hue Jackson does.
Remember the argument here is that Cable was 8-8 and we expected Hue Jack to do better its that simple nothing else.
Cable had his problems and Hue has his own set of problems.
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Just saying no team tells a Rookie coach hey 8-8 or better or your fired ……n not a alot can do better n win SB in first year or make deep playoff run unless they come to a good stable franchise …….
this team was lucky to b even 8-8 last year because they had a weak schedule n everything n no injury to their starting quarterback n Hue is way ahead of COach Cable got his team 7-6 n will finish better than last year n u guys want him fired ? really?
December 13th, 2011 at 11:43 am
People in the US would flip their s*** if Iran had spy drones flying in our airspace. And we expect Iran to have a different reaction. “Oh, it’s just a harmless Predator drone, no reason to shoot it down!”
December 13th, 2011 at 11:45 am
Lets win this game on sunday!!
You will all get back on the bandwaggon with a win, a donkey loss to the patriots and a Jets loss to the eagles! Hell, the Colts will beat the Titans LOL and well the Bengals will lose their last 2 games!
December 13th, 2011 at 11:46 am
“COach Cable got his team 7-6 n will finish better than last year n u guys want him fired ? really?”
Again, one more time…I never said to fire Hue Jackson I said we all expected more from him than another 8-8 season.
December 13th, 2011 at 11:47 am
baumraiders Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 11:45 am
Lets win this game on sunday!!
You will all get back on the bandwaggon with a win, a donkey loss to the patriots and a Jets loss to the eagles! Hell, the Colts will beat the Titans LOL and well the Bengals will lose their last 2 games!
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hahaha good one .. i’ll just take win by us but hey if all that happens we’ll take it
December 13th, 2011 at 11:47 am
Every GM has to have a long term plan for the team and that plan has to take into consideration the areas of talent in the division in which he competes.
The AFC West– two teams are of concern because they offer contrasting problems: the Chargers and the Broncos. KC will improve, it’s just that I don’t think they will offer either of the extremes of SD/Denver.
The Chargers with Rivers: First, Phillip Rivers will return next year to a high level of play and the Chargers are likely to have a really good coach.
Playing the Chargers twice a year demands the Raiders have an ability to rush a pocket passer and cover receivers with a decent secondary. With a decent front line and decent receivers, and with a good coach, Rivers is a top-tier quarterback in a classic mold. Rush him successfully and you can beat him; give him time, and you’ll pay.
The Broncos with Tebow and a great Denver defense: Stopping the Broncos requires our offense score points against a defense that is already good and likely to get even stronger, but it also means we need a quick and a disciplined( requires some smarts) defense that can contain a running qb who is still not a good passer and is certainly not what can be called a pocket presence.
This poses a conflict for our GM in acquiring players through the draft and free agency: if he improves his team by choosing players who have skills that can defend against a pocket passer like Rivers, he may not be getting players that have success against a Steve Young-type Tebow, who has a great defense on his side. Tebow doesn’t need to score a lot of points in a game, just stay close. In the meantime, I do think that playing a lot will cause Tebow to become more and more accurate in his play. He already looks like a young Steve Young, only he’s stronger, less likely to get taken on and creamed by defenders.
The off-season is always a challenge for any team, but we have a great challenge in naming a good GM and that GM has to decide which way to go.
December 13th, 2011 at 11:48 am
COACH Hue***
December 13th, 2011 at 11:51 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 11:46 am
“COach Cable got his team 7-6 n will finish better than last year n u guys want him fired ? really?”
Again, one more time…I never said to fire Hue Jackson I said we all expected more from him than another 8-8 season.
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He will finish 9-7 or 10-6… alot of players didn’t even expect us to have more than 6 wins in offseason but now u guys want playoffs lmfao
December 13th, 2011 at 11:52 am
luvmarvhub Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 11:47 am
Every GM has to have a long term plan for the team and that plan has to take into consideration the areas of talent in the division in which he competes.
The AFC West– two teams are of concern because they offer contrasting problems: the Chargers and the Broncos. KC will improve, it’s just that I don’t think they will offer either of the extremes of SD/Denver.
The Chargers with Rivers: First, Phillip Rivers will return next year to a high level of play and the Chargers are likely to have a really good coach.
Playing the Chargers twice a year demands the Raiders have an ability to rush a pocket passer and cover receivers with a decent secondary. With a decent front line and decent receivers, and with a good coach, Rivers is a top-tier quarterback in a classic mold. Rush him successfully and you can beat him; give him time, and you’ll pay.
The Broncos with Tebow and a great Denver defense: Stopping the Broncos requires our offense score points against a defense that is already good and likely to get even stronger, but it also means we need a quick and a disciplined( requires some smarts) defense that can contain a running qb who is still not a good passer and is certainly not what can be called a pocket presence.
This poses a conflict for our GM in acquiring players through the draft and free agency: if he improves his team by choosing players who have skills that can defend against a pocket passer like Rivers, he may not be getting players that have success against a Steve Young-type Tebow, who has a great defense on his side. Tebow doesn’t need to score a lot of points in a game, just stay close. In the meantime, I do think that playing a lot will cause Tebow to become more and more accurate in his play. He already looks like a young Steve Young, only he’s stronger, less likely to get taken on and creamed by defenders.
The off-season is always a challenge for any team, but we have a great challenge in naming a good GM and that GM has to decide which way to go.
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We improve instantly by 3 wins just by cutting that POS Chuck Breshnahan
December 13th, 2011 at 11:53 am
mcfadden20. Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 11:51 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 11:46 am
“COach Cable got his team 7-6 n will finish better than last year n u guys want him fired ? really?”
Again, one more time…I never said to fire Hue Jackson I said we all expected more from him than another 8-8 season.
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He will finish 9-7 or 10-6… alot of players didn’t even expect us to have more than 6 wins in offseason but now u guys want playoffs lmfao
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ALOT OF FANS **^^^^
December 13th, 2011 at 11:54 am
Alright I’m out have a good night ya’all
December 13th, 2011 at 11:56 am
Again, one more time…I never said to fire Hue Jackson I said we all expected more from him than another 8-8 season.
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Read a lot of the comments in here the last few days 666. A LOT of people DO want Hue fired (some even want him fired NOW, not even wait until the conclusion of his FIRST season)
Of course expectations were higher this year, but those expectations didn’t include DMac and Campbell missing more than half the season, they didn’t include Ford and Moore missing significant time. They didn’t include AL DYING before week 5. Through ALL of that Hue STILL has this team in position to finish better than last year.
It isn’t just you, we ALL expected more from the team this year, but at the same time, the rational among us aren’t ready to place that all on Hue’s lap. Can you imagine the pressure that guy is under right now? Many of the guys in here that are saying Hue should be fired would KILL THEMSELVES if they had to deal with the pressure at their jobs that Hue is dealing with right now.
December 13th, 2011 at 11:57 am
I expected 8-8 or 9-7, for the exact reasons we’re seeing. Inadequate depth players, key pieces who are not big-time playmakers, no discipline, and a shaky defense incapable of stopping the run (and as a byproduct, anything else).
Turning around this franchise is not, and never was going to be a one-year thing. Especially not after being run by a single man for almost its entire history. Need a couple full offseasons before moving in another direction is possible.
December 13th, 2011 at 11:59 am
What a group of scrubs:
Safety Mike Mitchell said he regretted a postgame tweet in which he claimed he added Packers tight end Jermichael Finley to “my list of TE’s I’ve shut down.” Mitchell said it “shows my immaturity. … It’s a lesson learned.”
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/12/12/SP7A1MBL8T.DTL#ixzz1gRVnHPil
December 13th, 2011 at 12:02 pm
Unfortunately, Mitchell was the one defensive player who did his job on Sunday.
December 13th, 2011 at 12:03 pm
Yeah I have OAK at 8-8 this year and a few weeks ago I thought we would far exceed that. WOW, was I wrong. I think we have the worst defense in the league. The only thing we do well get flags on D like nobody else can.
With that being said our defense has key players that can put it together, then only issue is our LB’s are terrible.
Maybe Wimbley can pass rush, maybe Curry is a great athlete at times. and maybe ROlando calls the sets.
But those 3 are terrible overall.
December 13th, 2011 at 12:05 pm
McClain might be the worst starting MLB in a 4-3 in the league.
December 13th, 2011 at 12:06 pm
If this team gets to 9-7, it will surpass expectations that I think most of us had about this team this year.
Getting to 9-7 despite a defense without a good leader at the D Coordinator spot would be an achievement actually.
December 13th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
You guys think, that if we still had Marshall, our W column would be higher?
December 13th, 2011 at 12:08 pm
Losing that Buffalo game and that 2nd Denver game will come back to haunt the whole team and especially Chuck B and the defense.
Losing badly to a crappy Miami team was ridiculous!
December 13th, 2011 at 12:09 pm
636.raiderinparadise Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 12:05 pm
McClain might be the worst starting MLB in a 4-3 in the league.
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Which is why we switch to a 3-4 and get rid of Tommy Kelly…
December 13th, 2011 at 12:09 pm
Wimbley is above-average for a 4-3 SLB. Curry has weaknesses that are easily exploited, but also has made his fair share of plays.
Rolando is an enigma. Wildly inconsistent, frequently neutralized in the run game, and kind of a headcase. Just doesn’t seem comfortable whenever he’s out there. And I was one of the folks who wanted the Raiders to draft the guy (looking at the other first-round picks from that year, few guys would have clearly been better options).
His job COULD BE made easier if the Raiders had defensive linemen whose job wasn’t merely to penetrate the line and get to the QB. You need linemen who can occupy blockers so OGs and FBs aren’t reaching the second level and taking out your LBs. But even then, I think the Raiders need to go in a different direction after the season. Ship McClain to a 3-4 team and get a mid-round pick in return.
December 13th, 2011 at 12:09 pm
638.DMAC Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
You guys think, that if we still had Marshall, our W column would be higher?
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Yes! I think we would have won that Buffalo game and that 2nd Denver game.
Marshall had these guys playing at a high level and playing inspired football for most of last season.
They improved as a unit and then regressed badly this year with Chuck B.
December 13th, 2011 at 12:09 pm
sometimes you have to say uncle in this league, whether you throw it away or take a sack
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Hue Jackson read my comment yesterday before his press conf?
December 13th, 2011 at 12:10 pm
despite all my negative things to say I still think 10-6 might win the division. or at least get a wildcard. I think Tebow could lose 3 in a row.
December 13th, 2011 at 12:10 pm
Man, I wanted Mason Foster to be a Raider.
December 13th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
DMAC Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 12:10 pm
Man, I wanted Mason Foster to be a Raider.
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Me too.
December 13th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
640.ElkGRaider Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 12:09 pm
636.raiderinparadise Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 12:05 pm
McClain might be the worst starting MLB in a 4-3 in the league.
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Which is why we switch to a 3-4 and get rid of Tommy Kelly…
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If they move to a 3-4, they still need a TRUE NT and another ILB and another OLB.
December 13th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
Need a couple full offseasons before moving in another direction is possible.
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So will you go on record as saying Art Shell and Tom Walsh also deserved a second full offseason?
December 13th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
A switch to 3-4 will take time. I say get Spags if the ineveitable happens this year, and have him run the D with Waufle…
December 13th, 2011 at 12:13 pm
648.RaidingTexas Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
Need a couple full offseasons before moving in another direction is possible.
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So will you go on record as saying Art Shell and Tom Walsh also deserved a second full offseason?
Sorry….that definitely was/is an exception…
December 13th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
if Jacoby Ford can make it to the Raider Image store in Hayward, he can make it to the football field this Sunday. I don’t care if he plays at 70%
He could use an extra pair of hands at WR!
gimp your way across the middle, JFORD. Fall down before you take a hit if need be. Just cross the first down marker and catch the football
December 13th, 2011 at 12:15 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
Ship McClain to a 3-4 team and get a mid-round pick in return.
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We agree on that point. And I would at least put out feelers to see what teams might offer for DMac. If they can’t get a high pick or set of picks in return, then see if he’ll renegotiate his salary. He makes too much for being off the field this much.
December 13th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
# lefty12 Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 6:46 pm
Bigot,all I’m doing is pointing out we all realize you hate Palmer because he is white and replaced your beloved Campbell. Palmer is a superior QB to Campbell.
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You punk azz little biatch!!!! you obviously have a problem with race. you cant conceal your contempt for black players. sorry but times have changed and black qb’s have proven they belong in the nfl, and they will continue to take jobs.
Why is it that any time i post about a qb the first thing you do is look to see what color they are?
because you are a caveman troglodite threatend by the black qb.
Your opinion on which qb is better is your right as well, as my opinion is my right. the difference is my opinion is backed up by game film and numbers over the last two years. you have nothing to support your case, this is another reason it bothers you.
go back to your clan rally and stop speaking on what i post, besides arent you late for your date with your cousin you hillbilly
December 13th, 2011 at 12:17 pm
I think Tebow could lose 3 in a row
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paradise,
in all fairness .. you thought the Donkeys would lose the last 6 games with Tebow at QB
December 13th, 2011 at 12:18 pm
649.hwnrdr Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
A switch to 3-4 will take time. I say get Spags if the ineveitable happens this year, and have him run the D with Waufle…
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That is the move this team should make and they need to stop screwing around and make it happen if Spags gets fired from the Lambs!
Spags knows how to run an effective 4-3 and disguise his coverages and blitzes. Him and Waufle shut down the high powered undefeated Pats offense in the Super Bowl!
With Steve Spagnolo as the DC, Waufle as the DL coach, maybe hire Del Rio to help Biekert as the LB coach and keep Woodson and Ross around as the DB coaches and I think the Raiders Defense will improve big time next season.
They need to add another LB and another DT/NT two gap type who is big, strong, and athletic.
They need an Haloti Ngata type in the middle!
December 13th, 2011 at 12:19 pm
Running back Michael Bush averaged 115.3 yards per game (4.8-yard average) in his first four games as the primary back after McFadden’s injury.
Bush’s production has dipped dramatically the past three games, however. He averaged 55 yards (2.9) in those games, with an average of five fewer carries than the previous four contests
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re-signing Ron Dayne II this offseason shouldn’t be a problem!
December 13th, 2011 at 12:19 pm
Priceless!
2 left wing allegedly tolerant libtards calling each other racist. This one has all the classics; “hillbilly” “clan rally” and of course “caveman”.
I think i’ll get my popcorn and a cherry coke and enjoy the show!
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Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
# lefty12 Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 6:46 pm
Bigot,all I’m doing is pointing out we all realize you hate Palmer because he is white and replaced your beloved Campbell. Palmer is a superior QB to Campbell.
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You punk azz little biatch!!!!
December 13th, 2011 at 12:21 pm
The Raiders’ easiest path to the playoffs is to win their final three games and have the Denver Broncos lose two or all three of their games, or at least against the Chiefs on Jan. 1.
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Guess I have to root for KC on 01/01/12
Ick!
December 13th, 2011 at 12:23 pm
2012 Oakland Raiders:
Todd Haley = OC
Jack Del Rio = DC
no more 70’s offense or defense!
December 13th, 2011 at 12:23 pm
647.DKnight007 Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
640.ElkGRaider Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 12:09 pm
636.raiderinparadise Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 12:05 pm
McClain might be the worst starting MLB in a 4-3 in the league.
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Which is why we switch to a 3-4 and get rid of Tommy Kelly…
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If they move to a 3-4, they still need a TRUE NT and another ILB and another OLB.
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Curry and Wimbley on the edges. Only need another ILB and big run stuffer. Any names come to mind in this draft?
December 13th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
So will you go on record as saying Art Shell and Tom Walsh also deserved a second full offseason?
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They went 2-14, and were CLEARLY outclassed in the NFL, and they also weren’t ROOKIES. Not exactly a fair comparison to a coach who is 7-6 with 3 games to go.
December 13th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
The scariest thing is Rolando McClain thinks he played well the last 2 games lol. Cuz he has been getting tackles. He is clueless.
GB went right at him ….. film doesn’t lie.
He looked awful.
December 13th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
if hue can coax 8 wins after this year it will be a success.
you must consider the circumstances he faces.
lost your starting qb and team leader, lost the owner and guy who built the franchise, lost your starting rb and super star, lost wr’s, lost right d end who was on the verge of being a special player, lost all of your db’s not named routt.
Im sorry but the job he has done is incredible.
something unnoticed, he learns from his mistakes. signed tj inserted him right away, it flopped and tj was sent to the bench. almost lost going for it at the goal line with the lead, so he dialed it down and is being more conservative. was aware that his media sessions were being lampooned and the perception was he was out of control and power drunk, so he isnt quite as boisterous in his media sessions. realized that dhb is the most consistent wr in the bunch so he is making sure he is featured.
gruden went 7-9 his first year, why would you only give hu jack 1 year?
Why do people love rex ryan and his act, but hu jack gets called a car sales man and a huckster?
So he hasnt proven to be the greatest ROOKIE GM,but he is doing a very good job as a rookie head coach
December 13th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
So will you go on record as saying Art Shell and Tom Walsh also deserved a second full offseason?
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Did the Owner/GM/Director of Personnel die during their tenure? If not, it wouldn’t have mattered.
Either way, what I said made no reference to who the head coach is/will be. For a GM to assemble a roster of their own guys for their own system? Not a one-year project.
December 13th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
Rolando needs a tighter space to work in. Too spread out in a 4-3
December 13th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
RaidersBlog Chris Hansen by CorkOnTheNFL
I dare anyone to re-watch the game and single on McClain. He was just terrible and GB targeted him early. I’m not hating on him…really.
2 hours ago
December 13th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
The Raiders’ easiest path to the playoffs is to win their final three games and have the Denver Broncos lose two or all three of their games, or at least against the Chiefs on Jan. 1.
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Guess I have to root for KC on 01/01/12
Ick!
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Or hoping for a Pariots win.
December 13th, 2011 at 12:25 pm
MistaBrown Says:
I think i’ll get my popcorn and a cherry coke and enjoy the show!
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Don’t you mean tea?
December 13th, 2011 at 12:25 pm
McClain is in the wrong system.
December 13th, 2011 at 12:28 pm
669.DMAC Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 12:25 pm
McClain is in the wrong system.
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In a system that requires him to run and give some effort.
December 13th, 2011 at 12:28 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
Did the Owner/GM/Director of Personnel die during their tenure?
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That’s my argument, not yours!!!! I’ve said it all morning! You don’t get to use that one. LMAO
Al is gone, so CLEAN HOUSE in the coaching department. He’s made a mess of things for years.
December 13th, 2011 at 12:28 pm
I guess the question is…blow up the D personnel and stick with a 4-3? Or change the D to fit our personnel (a 3-4) and get a huge NT (get rid of Kelly)?
December 13th, 2011 at 12:30 pm
Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 12:28 pm
669.DMAC Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 12:25 pm
McClain is in the wrong system.
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In a system that requires him to run and give some effort.
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Actually, I think he’d be alright in a 3-4.
Not great, or spectacular, but alright.
December 13th, 2011 at 12:30 pm
ElkGRaider Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
Rolando needs a tighter space to work in. Too spread out in a 4-3
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Because he is so slow and jogs to plays?
Because he has no balls and can’t shed blocks?
Because he thinks the SEC is the same of the NFL?
Because he never once apoligized for distracting his teamates?
HE IS A MLB IN A 4-3 SCHEME, HE HAS TO BE A VOILENT, MEAN S.O.B. THAT FLYS TO THE BALL AND HITS PEOPLE.
December 13th, 2011 at 12:30 pm
So will you go on record as saying Art Shell and Tom Walsh also deserved a second full offseason?
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first off, Walsh was fired by Art Shell before the season ended. John Shoop replaced him for the final 5 games of that season
then jetted for a college gig (NC Tarheels) in ‘07
did Shell deserve another shot? I say YES!
With a legit OC and O-Line coaches and Jerry Porter cut or traded instead of Randy Moss, who knows what might have happened?
Couldn’t have been much worse than the Kiffin/Cable years, right?
December 13th, 2011 at 12:31 pm
# Method To My Madness Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:23 am
Like I said all along we be sitting watching Tebow make a Super Bowl run.Raiders done!!
December 13th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
“In a system that requires him to run and give some effort.”
LMFAO so funny!
December 13th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
Kirk Morrison > Slowlando McRussell
get it?
December 13th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
# DMAC Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 12:25 pm
Hue is in over his head and has the wrong system.Go donkeys.
December 13th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
gruden went 7-9 his first year, why would you only give hu jack 1 year?
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I think he actually went 8-8. And that was a huge improvement over 4-12 in Bugel’s last year.
December 13th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
These are true paradise…I see it also…
To salvage what we can get from him do we switch or just give him up? Dont think we would get much in trade…
December 13th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
if hue can coax 1 win after this year it will be a success.Jackass can’t coach it was Cable!!!
December 13th, 2011 at 12:34 pm
Raiderinparadise Says:
HE HAS TO BE A VOILENT, MEAN S.O.B.
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He proved he is that in Decatur, GA.
December 13th, 2011 at 12:34 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 12:30 pm
I am now a full fledged Tebow supporter.
December 13th, 2011 at 12:34 pm
New Raider draft rule for the 1st round.
If the experts predict the player is a can’t miss propect/dafe pick…the Raiders should stay far far away!
December 13th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
Sometimes, Hue, it’s just time to SHUT THE $%^% up.
December 13th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
RaidingTexas Says:
He proved he is that in Decatur, GA.
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I mean AL, not GA.
December 13th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 11:34 am
Told you we’d be watching Tebow win the Division.GO BRONCOS!!!
December 13th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
Hue Jackson and Palmer are tied to the hip (Which means that he is not in “Lock Step” with Mystic1)and next year in August when Hue says Palmer has had an off season and a camp with his team and is now ready to compete for the division title….. where will the haters like Mystic1 be?
What team will old mistyeyes root for next year when this happens?
December 13th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
Just win our games…. Lions…Must beat them…1 at a time.
December 13th, 2011 at 12:36 pm
I agree elkraider….
@ this point you have to hope he makes year 3 strides like run dmc and DHB.
Unforunatley, MLB isn’t something that has a big learning curve, being that his best trait is his foobtall IQ and calling D shifts …. his problem is his desire, speed, and mentality to use his physical size to blow up blockers and sprint down RB’s.
You cant trade him. But Hue and all his big mouth talk, how could he not get on Bres and the d coaches about this?
remember Hue “were not going to let people just run on us like they have here in the past, I take that personally, we are going to stop the run this year”
32nd in league. I rest my case.
December 13th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 12:21 pm
The Raiders’ easiest path to the playoffs is to bring back Cable!!!
December 13th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
If the Raiders do not hire Spags as the new DC next year, than that means they will probably hire a 3-4 guy!
December 13th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
That’s my argument, not yours!!!! I’ve said it all morning! You don’t get to use that one. LMAO
Al is gone, so CLEAN HOUSE in the coaching department. He’s made a mess of things for years.
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I can understand that, I just think that like Mangini and Holmgren, Hue will get another year to prove himself for the new GM. Especially considering that Jackson and Saunders have, since week 5, made a distinct impact on the offense via the Palmer trade. And Jackson has undeniably done a better job than Mangini has. And for that matter, most other coaches that would be thrust into a situation with so many injuries and flat-out bad depth players, and only having control of the roster five weeks after the season begins.
December 13th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
# fingers Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
Just forfeit our games…. go tebow.
December 13th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
663.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
if hue can coax 8 wins after this year it will be a success.
you must consider the circumstances he faces.
lost your starting qb and team leader, lost the owner and guy who built the franchise, lost your starting rb and super star, lost wr’s, lost right d end who was on the verge of being a special player, lost all of your db’s not named routt.
Im sorry but the job he has done is incredible.
something unnoticed, he learns from his mistakes. signed tj inserted him right away, it flopped and tj was sent to the bench. almost lost going for it at the goal line with the lead, so he dialed it down and is being more conservative. was aware that his media sessions were being lampooned and the perception was he was out of control and power drunk, so he isnt quite as boisterous in his media sessions. realized that dhb is the most consistent wr in the bunch so he is making sure he is featured.
gruden went 7-9 his first year, why would you only give hu jack 1 year?
Why do people love rex ryan and his act, but hu jack gets called a car sales man and a huckster?
So he hasnt proven to be the greatest ROOKIE GM,but he is doing a very good job as a rookie head coach
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Great post. A rational sumation of our season… novel concept around here the last few days.
December 13th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 12:23 pm
2012 Oakland Raiders:
Todd Haley = OC
Jack Del Rio = DC
no more 70’s offense or defense
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Del Rio would be a good DC here or Spagnulo.
Hell no to that prick Haley.
December 13th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
Who called ROMAC a bust before he even signed his contract?
December 13th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
# Method To My Madness Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:23 am
Raiders are Trash period!!!!!!!
December 13th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
My mexican RB coach in Highschool was a tough SOB, he used to swing his keys on his lanyard and pace behind the RB’s during drills and wack your helmet when you palyed soft or ran slow through a hole. I swear, it would make your ears peirce with pain, but he got every bit of desire out of his players …. in practice we would be sprinting thru holes with our mouths foaming just to staisfy his demands of effort.
I understand the NFL is different but when I played, I always felt the one thing you can contorl is your effort and going 110% ….
They all play soft. Look at Huff, McClain, Seymour … they half-speed guys
shameful
December 13th, 2011 at 12:42 pm
bcz24 Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
663.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
if hue can coax 8 wins after this year it will be a success.
you must consider the circumstances he faces.
lost your starting qb and team leader, lost the owner and guy who built the franchise, lost your starting rb and super star, lost wr’s, lost right d end who was on the verge of being a special player, lost all of your db’s not named routt.
Im sorry but the job he has done is incredible.
something unnoticed, he learns from his mistakes. signed tj inserted him right away, it flopped and tj was sent to the bench. almost lost going for it at the goal line with the lead, so he dialed it down and is being more conservative. was aware that his media sessions were being lampooned and the perception was he was out of control and power drunk, so he isnt quite as boisterous in his media sessions. realized that dhb is the most consistent wr in the bunch so he is making sure he is featured.
gruden went 7-9 his first year, why would you only give hu jack 1 year?
Why do people love rex ryan and his act, but hu jack gets called a car sales man and a huckster?
So he hasnt proven to be the greatest ROOKIE GM,but he is doing a very good job as a rookie head coach
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Great post. A rational sumation of our season… novel concept around here the last few days.
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Not to split hairs but Gruden was 8-8
December 13th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
What’s up RR?
I will go on record saying Art Shell and Tom Walsh did not deserve a second full season, but based on Hues results to date with al things considered. Yes, Hue does!
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675.RaiderRockstar Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 12:30 pm
So will you go on record as saying Art Shell and Tom Walsh also deserved a second full offseason?
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first off, Walsh was fired by Art Shell before the season ended. John Shoop replaced him for the final 5 games of that season
then jetted for a college gig (NC Tarheels) in ‘07
did Shell deserve another shot? I say YES!
With a legit OC and O-Line coaches and Jerry Porter cut or traded instead of Randy Moss, who knows what might have happened?
Couldn’t have been much worse than the Kiffin/Cable years, right?
December 13th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
They all play soft. Look at Huff, McClain, Seymour … they half-speed guys
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Are you absolutely positive that these three are not playing at full speed due to nagging injury.
December 13th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
Trade Darren McFadden for a 2nd and 3rd
Trade Richard Seymour for a 3rd (Redskins would bite, for sure)
Trade Rolando McClain for a 4th
Trade Tommy Kelly for a 5th
Make that happen, and all of a sudden the Raiders have a draft again.
Most important thing? Rebuilding the defensive line. If the Raiders can move up into the 2nd or even 1st round, Alameda Ta’amu and Dontari Poe should be the primary targets.
December 13th, 2011 at 12:45 pm
Oh, and restructure Huff’s contract if it hasn’t been already. No point in trying to trade him, no team wanted him as an FA. Most teams thought he was “too soft”.
December 13th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
bcz and mistic got it right re: Hue Jack City®
December 13th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
gruden went 7-9 his first year, why would you only give hu jack 1 year?
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Gruden went 8-8 in the process of lifting a horrible team out of Joe Bugel’s 4-12 gutter.
HueJax has what was a team trending upwards in a nose dive.
December 13th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
# Silverandblack666 Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
Hue Jackson and Palmer are tied to the hip (Which means that he is not in “Lock Step” with Mystic1)and next year in August when Hue says Palmer has had an off season and a camp with his team and is now ready to compete for the division title….. where will the haters like Mystic1 be?
What team will old mistyeyes root for next year when this happens?
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what an idiot.
I told you already, if palmer can turn it around, i will root for him. I haven seen evidence, game footage or numbers that say he can though.
Just because we gave up a lot to get him doesnt mean if he flops, we cant give him the axe, it wouldnt be the first time a qb signs to a team accompanied by hype and fanfare, then washes out and gets dumped the next year. it happens in the nfl more than you think
To suggest that the coach would just sit by and watch it happen appears to be contrary to what hu jack has shown to be up to this point. he has no problem puling the trigger if guys dont get it done.
December 13th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
Dec. 12, 2011 6:29 p.m. – by Eric Gilmore – Jackson says he’ll fix defense
Hue Jackson has vowed to fix the Raiders’ run defense and penalty problems, but against Green Bay Oakland gave up 136 rushing yards and was penalized 11 times for 89 yards. “I got three more weeks,” Jackson said. “We’re working on it. I’m just as disappointed as anybody. … Sometimes you got to change up, and we’re going to change up so we can get this thing better.” Raiders RapidReports
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Change up? How about play a goaline defense the whole game. Man up the WRs and free flow the check downs. with one safety over the top. Crush the line early, kill the RB and scare the QB, lol
December 13th, 2011 at 12:47 pm
Couldn’t have been much worse than the Kiffin/Cable years, right?
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Do you even remember 2006? Yes it could have.
December 13th, 2011 at 12:47 pm
701.HairyBush Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 12:42 pm
bcz24 Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
663.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
if hue can coax 8 wins after this year it will be a success.
you must consider the circumstances he faces.
lost your starting qb and team leader, lost the owner and guy who built the franchise, lost your starting rb and super star, lost wr’s, lost right d end who was on the verge of being a special player, lost all of your db’s not named routt.
Im sorry but the job he has done is incredible.
something unnoticed, he learns from his mistakes. signed tj inserted him right away, it flopped and tj was sent to the bench. almost lost going for it at the goal line with the lead, so he dialed it down and is being more conservative. was aware that his media sessions were being lampooned and the perception was he was out of control and power drunk, so he isnt quite as boisterous in his media sessions. realized that dhb is the most consistent wr in the bunch so he is making sure he is featured.
gruden went 7-9 his first year, why would you only give hu jack 1 year?
Why do people love rex ryan and his act, but hu jack gets called a car sales man and a huckster?
So he hasnt proven to be the greatest ROOKIE GM,but he is doing a very good job as a rookie head coach
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Great post. A rational sumation of our season… novel concept around here the last few days.
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Not to split hairs but Gruden was 8-8
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I agree well thought out post!
December 13th, 2011 at 12:47 pm
I have been avoiding this place for the last 2 weeks because i’m sure there is a lot of over-reacting. Let me guess. There is a lot of “fire Hue”, “trade Dmac”, “cut Carson”.
December 13th, 2011 at 12:48 pm
Trending upwards because of Hue.
Then you saddle him with Chuck Bresnehan.
Chuck B pulled out some pretty decent games (1st Denver game, Hou, NYJ) but after the showing last few weeks, I’m done with him.
December 13th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
silverback Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
They all play soft. Look at Huff, McClain, Seymour … they half-speed guys
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Are you absolutely positive that these three are not playing at full speed due to nagging injury.
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Yes. Unless your assuming Hue likes to play injured players? …… look at our offense:
moore, ford, mcafadden, jones ….
Those guys migh tbe banged up, but come on, its the NFL, if you can;t play banged up, you dont belong in this league.
You have the best trainers, doctors, pain meds lol
The texans Guard finished the 4th quarter with a broken leg and helped his team on a game winning drive to clinch division.
Think i care about seymour, huff and mcclains vaginitis?
December 13th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
Are you absolutely positive that these three are not playing at full speed due to nagging injury.
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McClain’s efforts have been called into question NUMEROUS times when he was healthy, so that isn’t even part of it. He wasn’t too injured to whoop his friends as$ and get arrested. I was one of McClains biggest supporters, but his comments after the NE game really chapped my as$, and then the arrest when he is supposed to be home for a funeral, lost me. Short of miraculously turning into Ray Lewis tomorrow, this guy can’t really do much to save his reputation. He should be out of here after the season. I actually hope he is found guilty of everything and gets suspended for the year so we can cut him without having to pay him.
December 13th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 12:48 pm
Trending upwards because of Hue.
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Hue Jackson is the Peter Principle in action.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Principle
As an offensive co-ordinator, he was helping the team trend upward. As a head coach, he’s out of depth and sinking.
December 13th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
bcz and mistic got it right re: Hue Jack City®
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Hue believes?
I do!
December 13th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
Excuses are for losers.
I can come up with a million of em for this team.
December 13th, 2011 at 12:51 pm
Treding upward would mean we have a better record now than we did last year.
And suuuuuurvey says….
December 13th, 2011 at 12:52 pm
You guys have to give McClain some more time. Its only his 2nd season.
December 13th, 2011 at 12:52 pm
Think i care about seymour, huff and mcclains vaginitis?
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Couldn’t agree with you more.
James Harrison finished a game with a broken orbital bone this season.
Emmitt Smith once singlehandedly won a game for Dallas despite a dislocated shoulder.
Ronnie Lott CUT OFF PART OF HIS FINGER so he could re-enter a game.
So I’m deeply unsympathetic to whatever booboos are plaguing Seymour and McClain
December 13th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 12:51 pm
Treding upward would mean we have a better record now than we did last year.
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More concerned with how we finish than where we are now.
Already said, if the team makes the playoffs, all is forgiven. Til next year.
December 13th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
L.A. Raider Dave Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 12:52 pm
You guys have to give McClain some more time. Its only his 2nd season.
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true he has plenty more guns to buy to up his street cred in decatur alabama
December 13th, 2011 at 12:54 pm
Gruden went 8-8 in the process of lifting a horrible team out of Joe Bugel’s 4-12 gutter.
HueJax has what was a team trending upwards in a nose dive.
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Gruden didn’t have a lockout, Al Davis death, his starting qb and rb out for the season before the midway point, ALL of his recievers missing considerable time due to injury, and quite possibly the WORST defense in the NFL to contend with.
December 13th, 2011 at 12:55 pm
More concerned with how we finish than where we are now.
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Me too.
Last three games will tell the tale.
December 13th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
CJ Legend 34 Says:
did Shell deserve another shot? I say YES!
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I think you’re in small company, man.
Does anyone else remember that one scene with Art on the sideline scribbling something on his clipboard, completely unaware of what was happening on the field? I forget which player it was, but one of them had to come bump him and say, “Coach, they’re trying to get your attention on the field!”
One of the most embarrassing moments in Raiders football history that I can recall. How anyone could think he deserved a second year is beyond comprehension. But they always say “opinions are like . . . “
December 13th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
Who let this monkey Dvrick out of the zoo?
December 13th, 2011 at 12:57 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 12:02 pm
Unfortunately, Mitchell was the one defensive player who did his job on Sunday.
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Dude, are you high? Mitchell was horrible. Just watch the lst play where he gets walled off on their TD run. He takes credit for shutting down Finley, but half the time the Raiders were playing zone. Granted he made an excellent pick, and got victimized by a pretty weak PI call, but overall his performance was not very good. What Bresnahan did early was exactly what I thought they should do which is play big nickle and make GB run. They didn’t start Curry and put Mitchell in his place. It was a good plan. But you have to know how to tackle. Did you see where Mitchell blitzes and misses Rodgers? You blitz, they don’t pick it up, and you don’t make the play, you are going to get torched. We got torched. Not to mention GB ran for about 6 yards a pop.
December 13th, 2011 at 12:58 pm
SilverNBlackPA Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 12:52 pm
Thank you!
Wanna talk baout playing hurt without excuses?
Byron Leftwhich Broke his shin in the 1st quarter in a college and played ht entire game throwing for over 400 yards and multiple touchdowns while his o-line had to carry him up the the ball after every gain to take the snaps in shotgun.
Its desire, not injury.
December 13th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
704.YoungAmerican Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
Trade Darren McFadden for a 2nd and 3rd
Trade Richard Seymour for a 3rd (Redskins would bite, for sure)
Trade Rolando McClain for a 4th
Trade Tommy Kelly for a 5th
Make that happen, and all of a sudden the Raiders have a draft again.
Most important thing? Rebuilding the defensive line. If the Raiders can move up into the 2nd or even 1st round, Alameda Ta’amu and Dontari Poe should be the primary targets.
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Doubt they trade either of the players next year. If Houston was playing better and bigger maybe Seymour traded. But I don’t think it will happen.
I always thought Huff was soft but my boy RR sold me on the fact that Huff covers ome of th ebest TEs but hurt so this year he looks real average. I think they paid him way to much, but had to bring a db back who knew the scheme.
December 13th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
romac has been up and down this year, and really beat up. I think his issues with being consistent have more to do with the fact that he is only 22 and very immature as a man. the incident off the field points to this fact. remember this is the second gun issue he has been involved with since joining our team. we hope that he grows up soon. i do think he has a tremendous upside, there were a handful of games that he was outstanding even while injured.
When he matures and learns how to be more consistent as a man, his game will follow. it is too early to write him off just yet. maybe this latest gun charge and the heat and criticism he is taking for the first time in his life will be a wake up call. at this point he has an entitlement issue.
He must learn manhood in order for his game to mature.
December 13th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
Bcz24 Says:
Gruden didn’t have a lockout, Al Davis death
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Al’s death should actually be considered an advantage for Hue. It means he gets to decide who plays and what style of football is played out there.
The lockout hurt all teams. Weak.
December 13th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
Code Black
December 13th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
I just that McClain would be better aginst the pass. That was his strength at Alabama.
December 13th, 2011 at 1:01 pm
Byron Leftwhich Broke his shin in the 1st quarter in a college and played ht entire game throwing for over 400 yards and multiple touchdowns while his o-line had to carry him up the the ball after every gain to take the snaps in shotgun.
Its desire, not injury.
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Amen.
I remember that game. If guts were talent, Leftwich would’ve been an all-time great. Sadly for him, they’re not
I think Donovan McNabb did something similar as a pro too, though that could be faulty memory.
Anyway…yes, you’re absolutely right. It’s all about will and this team has very little right now
December 13th, 2011 at 1:01 pm
Nosedive? I see one bad game (Mia…albiet short handed) and another short handed game against the best team in the league…at their house.
Its not over fellas…take care of business at home.
ONE of either Ford or DMoore has got to be out there…
December 13th, 2011 at 1:01 pm
RaidingTexas Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
Bcz24 Says:
Gruden didn’t have a lockout, Al Davis death
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Al’s death should actually be considered an advantage for Hue. It means he gets to decide who plays and what style of football is played out there.
The lockout hurt all teams. Weak.
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And even granting the point about Hue dealing with injuries, well, Gruden had a MUCH schittier roster to start with. So that is pretty much a push.
December 13th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
You didn’t answer the question mistyeyes.
Since you and Hue are no longer in “Lock Step” what are you going to do next year?
Come on man give us some info inquiring minds want to know how much crying will be done by you over the Palmer trade next year when he is still starting?
Just give us an answer because one thing is evident and that is Jason Campbell will not be here next year and when he is on another team I am sure you will buy his jersey and pull for him.
December 13th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
Are you guys excited to see a real D next year? Idk about you guys , but I feel like if we had atleast average D we might have already clincHe’d the division or might b leading by one or two games by now … But man with nice O n if we could just get a Good DC next year , we could do big big damage next year
December 13th, 2011 at 1:04 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 12:57 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 12:02 pm
Unfortunately, Mitchell was the one defensive player who did his job on Sunday.
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Dude, are you high? Mitchell was horrible. Just watch the lst play where he gets walled off on their TD run.
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isnt he playing out of position though? he needs to be back at safety with branch, he isnt great at taking angles or plugging holes in that wolverine line backer role chuck plays him in. he should start the box safety spot, and let branch play free, or even vice versa. he destroys receivers coming across the middle, and can cover tight ends really well. remember they said he couldnt cover and he has proven that untrue. They spend too much time in the wolverine package so they can have huff and branch on the field with him, and it hurts our run defense.
December 13th, 2011 at 1:06 pm
isnt he playing out of position though? he needs to be back at safety with branch, he isnt great at taking angles or plugging holes in that wolverine line backer role chuck plays him in. he should start the box safety spot, and let branch play free, or even vice versa. he destroys receivers coming across the middle, and can cover tight ends really well. remember they said he couldnt cover and he has proven that untrue. They spend too much time in the wolverine package so they can have huff and branch on the field with him, and it hurts our run defense.
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I actually agree with you about this, mistic.
December 13th, 2011 at 1:06 pm
bcz24 Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 12:54 pm
Gruden went 8-8 in the process of lifting a horrible team out of Joe Bugel’s 4-12 gutter.
HueJax has what was a team trending upwards in a nose dive.
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Gruden didn’t have a lockout, Al Davis death, his starting qb and rb out for the season before the midway point, ALL of his recievers missing considerable time due to injury, and quite possibly the WORST defense in the NFL to contend with.
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You guys keep saying this but the HEAD COACH is responsible for the defense. Davis is not around to blame anymore. If those Dallas Cowboy defenses needed some additional help I can guarantee Jimmy Johnson would be over on that side figuring it out, not just standing on a podium letting fans blame Wanstadt.
December 13th, 2011 at 1:07 pm
739..I hear ya… Our D let us down so far… With just an average we’d have it wrapped up …
December 13th, 2011 at 1:07 pm
RaidingTexas Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
CJ Legend 34 Says:
did Shell deserve another shot? I say YES!
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I think you’re in small company, man.
Does anyone else remember that one scene with Art on the sideline scribbling something on his clipboard, completely unaware of what was happening on the field? I forget which player it was, but one of them had to come bump him and say, “Coach, they’re trying to get your attention on the field!”
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Wish I could find a video of that incident, but there’s an ESPN Page 2 column devoted to Art’s blank stares and nose buried in the clipboard:
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/shell/060915
Give Art a second season. LMFAO! Classic hilarity. Never a dull moment on IBABuzz.
December 13th, 2011 at 1:08 pm
Gotta give Jackson at least another season….
December 13th, 2011 at 1:08 pm
Why the hell is Huff on the field?
Dude does nothing!
Hopefully its just the injury holding him back that has him regressing this season.
December 13th, 2011 at 1:08 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
You didn’t answer the question mistyeyes.
Since you and Hue are no longer in “Lock Step” what are you going to do next year?
Come on man give us some info inquiring minds want to know how much crying will be done by you over the Palmer trade next year when he is still starting?
Just give us an answer because one thing is evident and that is Jason Campbell will not be here next year and when he is on another team I am sure you will buy his jersey and pull for him.
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He will never like Palmer as long as he wears Silver n Black …But who cares the guy got agenda against Palmer so let him Have it
December 13th, 2011 at 1:08 pm
Raiding Texas for fun I never said Art Shell should get second chance you made it up. I said Hue does deserve a second chance.
I get it you are making a joke that they are all alike in your book.
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CJ Legend 34 Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
What’s up RR?
I will go on record saying Art Shell and Tom Walsh did not deserve a second full season, but based on Hues results to date with al things considered. Yes, Hue does!
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726.RaidingTexas Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
CJ Legend 34 Says:
did Shell deserve another shot? I say YES!
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I think you’re in small company, man.
Does anyone else remember that one scene with Art on the sideline scribbling something on his clipboard, completely unaware of what was happening on the field? I forget which player it was, but one of them had to come bump him and say, “Coach, they’re trying to get your attention on the field!”
One of the most embarrassing moments in Raiders football history that I can recall. How anyone could think he deserved a second year is beyond comprehension. But they always say “opinions are like . . . “
December 13th, 2011 at 1:09 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 1:04 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 12:57 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 12:02 pm
Unfortunately, Mitchell was the one defensive player who did his job on Sunday.
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Dude, are you high? Mitchell was horrible. Just watch the lst play where he gets walled off on their TD run.
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isnt he playing out of position though? he needs to be back at safety with branch, he isnt great at taking angles or plugging holes in that wolverine line backer role chuck plays him in. he should start the box safety spot, and let branch play free, or even vice versa. he destroys receivers coming across the middle, and can cover tight ends really well. remember they said he couldnt cover and he has proven that untrue. They spend too much time in the wolverine package so they can have huff and branch on the field with him, and it hurts our run defense.
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Mitchell coming in was more of a run defending safety than a coverage guy. Granted he has improved his coverage skills, but he has improved from nonexistent to OK. You are right, In the GB game he really was to be the wolverine or hit man, whatever you want to call it. Just watch the tape. the tape don’t lie.
December 13th, 2011 at 1:10 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
You didn’t answer the question mistyeyes.
Since you and Hue are no longer in “Lock Step” what are you going to do next year?
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you really cant read can you shiver and crack? i will repeat my position one final time
I will root for palmer, he is the qb. If he can pull his head out i will be happy. I will always advocate for the best player to play, and in this case he hasnt out performed jc, this is why i have said that jc should be reinstated. Jc has earned his spot, palmer has not to this point. no different then last year when i said jc should start over grad. as long as jc is on the roster, and has not been out performed by his competetion, he should start.
of course none of that matters if he isnt on the team next year.
now go get a speak n’ spell or hooked on phonics and learn to read.
December 13th, 2011 at 1:11 pm
638.DMAC Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
You guys think, that if we still had Marshall, our W column would be higher?
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I think so. I wanted Marshall gone, but I didn’t realize Al would somehow come up with an even worse alternative.
Thankfully the days of having to hire desperate, patsy D-Coordinators are done. We can now go out and pick someone with some good credentials to run the D.
Might be a biggest offseason acquisition.
December 13th, 2011 at 1:11 pm
I myself can find 100 reasons to hate a guy other than his skin color.
December 13th, 2011 at 1:11 pm
Last year we had Branch play like schit and Huff making plays.
This year has flip-flopped.
December 13th, 2011 at 1:12 pm
Might be a biggest offseason acquisition.
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I agree 110%
December 13th, 2011 at 1:13 pm
“I will root for palmer, he is the qb. If he can pull his head out i will be happy. I will always advocate for the best player to play”
Ok I got you, I will make sure and remember this post in case Palmer does in fact pull his head out.
December 13th, 2011 at 1:13 pm
# mcfadden20. Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
Code Whacked, Which is what we are for supporting the Raiders!1
December 13th, 2011 at 1:14 pm
Art shells 7 step drop offense was the worst ever bar none
December 13th, 2011 at 1:14 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 1:10 pm
Fire Hue NOW!!!
December 13th, 2011 at 1:16 pm
# fingers Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 1:08 pm
We don’t give Jackson another season….
December 13th, 2011 at 1:16 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 1:04 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 12:57 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 12:02 pm
Unfortunately, Mitchell was the one defensive player who did his job on Sunday.
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Dude, are you high? Mitchell was horrible. Just watch the lst play where he gets walled off on their TD run.
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isnt he playing out of position though? he needs to be back at safety with branch, he isnt great at taking angles or plugging holes in that wolverine line backer role chuck plays him in. he should start the box safety spot, and let branch play free, or even vice versa. he destroys receivers coming across the middle, and can cover tight ends really well. remember they said he couldnt cover and he has proven that untrue. They spend too much time in the wolverine package so they can have huff and branch on the field with him, and it hurts our run defense.
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man am I really seeing this, or my eyes are deceiving me? This is THE first ever mistic post I read thats not about Palmer this or Palmer that
December 13th, 2011 at 1:17 pm
DMAC Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 1:11 pm
Last year we had Branch play like schit and Huff making plays.
This year has flip-flopped.
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LOL
Huff contract year last year, Branch contract year this year.
Though frankly, I think Branch is simply maturing as a player and Huff has been like 50% all year.
You guys talking about injuries and lack of toughness are clearly discounting the guys who ARE playing hurt every game, particularly on defense.
WRs and RBs with bad feet and ankles… you really WANT them out there?
Remember when McFadden took the needle a few years back and was sliding all over the place?
December 13th, 2011 at 1:17 pm
Lets be honest fans.
Our defense sucks man! Flat out.
They don’t play smart. They dont gang tackle. The Dbs can’t cover. Our blitz is up and down! Our D-line can’t tackle consistantly.
Guys are big getn off the bus but theya re busted once they get on the field.
No play with heart and energy. They just go through the motions man. If Seymour is the leader he is not leading enough.
It really shows with our offense not being able to put up points and having D-MAC’s run game to the outside controling the ball. The more our d is on thefield, the more I want to puke!!!
December 13th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
# RaiderRockstar Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
Who called ROMAC a success before he even signed his contract? I DID!!!!!
December 13th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
F the offseason … 3 games left …. chance for division and wildcard likely. get-er-done.
I have lot so negativity but if we get players back and the team wants to dispell the last 2 blowouts, with a home win and bronco loss this team would be right back where they need to be.
December 13th, 2011 at 1:19 pm
Monkey is back again hahahaha c’mon Dvrick monkey … Who let u outta the zoo?
December 13th, 2011 at 1:19 pm
# mcfadden20. Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
Who let this monkey HUE JACK out of the zoo?
December 13th, 2011 at 1:20 pm
# mcfadden20. Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 1:08 pm
He will never like Palmer as long as he wears Silver n Black
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thanks for answering for me but that isnt my take on it at all
I will never like palmer if he keeps up his dizzying pace of turnovers sacks and blow out losses. he has lot to prove to me, and those that have ignored his warts are the ones who seem to have an agenda in truth.
NO ONE WOULD ACCEPT THE PERFORMANCE WE HAVE GOTTEN FROM PALMER IF IT WERE ANY OTHER QB ON THE ROSTER. SO WHY DO I HAVE TO ACCEPT IT FROM PALMER?
It is simply about on field performance, nothing more
December 13th, 2011 at 1:20 pm
# mcfadden20. Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 1:19 pm
Monkey is back again hahahaha c’mon DMAC20 monkey … Who let u outta the zoo?
December 13th, 2011 at 1:20 pm
F the offseason … 3 games left …. chance for division and wildcard likely. get-er-done.
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YYYYYYYEEEEEEEEAAAAAAHHHHHH
December 13th, 2011 at 1:21 pm
NO ONE WOULD ACCEPT THE PERFORMANCE WE HAVE GOTTEN FROM PALMER IF IT WERE ANY OTHER QB ON THE ROSTER. SO WHY DO I HAVE TO ACCEPT IT FROM PALMER?
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If the other QBs on the roster had an offseason with the team, than yup.
December 13th, 2011 at 1:22 pm
# DMAC Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 1:08 pm
Why the hell is Hue on the field?
Dude knows nothing!
Hopefully its just the monkey DMAC holding him back that has him regressing this season.
December 13th, 2011 at 1:23 pm
If you had the chance to take one tough son of b!itch from another team to play for us, who would it be? (Im talking about Defensive players)
December 13th, 2011 at 1:23 pm
# Silverandblack666 Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 1:13 pm
“I will root for palmer, he is the qb. If he can pull his head out i will be happy. I will always advocate for the best player to play”
Ok I got you, I will make sure and remember this post in case Palmer does in fact pull his head out.
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i have said this since he arrived, i said it after the san diego game, you chose not to read or accept it, that is on you.
My position has not changed
December 13th, 2011 at 1:24 pm
# Method To My Madness Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 11:20 am
yah billups to clippers!! damn warriors first game on xmas gonna get creamed!
December 13th, 2011 at 1:24 pm
Erik Pears = stud RT?
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/13/bills-sign-right-tackle-pears-to-contract-extension/
nice work Cable!
December 13th, 2011 at 1:26 pm
# DMAC Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 1:23 pm
If you had the chance to take one tough son of b!itch from another team to play for us, who would it be? (Im not talking about Defensive players)my pick is Rivers!!
December 13th, 2011 at 1:26 pm
dvrick Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 1:24 pm
I’m running out of meds.
Someone please help me.
I’ll do anything!
I’ll even suck your………
December 13th, 2011 at 1:26 pm
CJ Legend 34 Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 1:08 pm
Raiding Texas for fun I never said Art Shell should get second chance you made it up. I said Hue does deserve a second chance.
I get it you are making a joke that they are all alike in your book.
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CJ Legend 34 Says:
did Shell deserve another shot? I say YES!
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Hmmmm, I’m not sure what it is about this statement that does not show you saying you would have given him another season. My bad for not being able to decrypt your message message. Was it one of those opposite day things?
And dude, don’t even imply that I’m comparing Hue to Art because “they are all alike”. You’re trying to take this in a direction that I was never even headed. I think Art was once a pretty good head coach. But by 2006, the game had passed him.
December 13th, 2011 at 1:26 pm
No thanx bro
December 13th, 2011 at 1:28 pm
I see the revisionist troll has returned.
December 13th, 2011 at 1:28 pm
# RaiderRockstar Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 1:24 pm
Erik Pears = stud RT?
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/13/bills-sign-right-tackle-pears-to-contract-extension/
nice work Cable.We should of kept you!!!GO TEBOW!!!
December 13th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 1:13 pm
“I will not root for palmer, he is not the qb. If he can pull his head out i will be shocked.
December 13th, 2011 at 1:32 pm
Morning Fam,
TFTDS
Going to air out
Uncle Chuck Bresh –
Yet again, after this loss, we hear players saying that their teammates need to “do their jobs.” that doesn’t cut it in a loss like this.
There were two things that became clear pretty quickly in this game:
1) The Raiders’ big plan was to put Mike Mitchell in the game and play nickel against Rodgers,
2) Aaron Rodgers was watching for it and calling for a run whenever he saw it.
For the Packers it worked like a charm.
first possession started near midfield after a Palmer interception. On the second play, Rodgers saw the matchup he wanted and called for a run.
His offensive line opened a crease and the only defender there to try and plug the hole was Mitchell. He was easily blocked and Ryan Grant ran 47 yards for a touchdown. It was the first touchdown run over 20 yards the Packers had since late in the 2009 season, when the Super Bowl wasn’t even a twinkle in the Packers’ eye.
Another thing we have figured out this season is just how well Rodgers performs when the corner or safety blitzes. So of course, on the next Packer drive, Bresnahan calls for a safety blitz.
Rodgers instantly threw to the uncovered receiver for a 12 yard gain. Two plays later, they had their second touchdown.
The Packers’ next touchdown came on a 37 yard bomb. The Packers rushed to the line and knew they had caught the Raider defenders trying to sub out and would have a free shot at the end zone. We were called for 12 men on the field, but it didn’t matter because the Packers scored a TD.
The Packers would get another interception and were quickly back in business at the six yard line. Then in second and goal from the six yard line, Rodgers sees Mitchell playing in the box and calls an audible for a run and touchdown.
In the second half, the “game plan” for the defense was to play zone. The result was a 27 yard catch to start the third quarter resulting in a field goal and then another 27 yard catch in which the receiver was so wide open it was impossible to tell who was supposed to be covering him. It too resulted in a field goal.
December 13th, 2011 at 1:33 pm
McClain’s efforts have been called into question NUMEROUS times when he was healthy, so that isn’t even part of it. He wasn’t too injured to whoop his friends as$ and get arrested. I was one of McClains biggest supporters, but his comments after the NE game really chapped my as$, and then the arrest when he is supposed to be home for a funeral, lost me. Short of miraculously turning into Ray Lewis tomorrow, this guy can’t really do much to save his reputation. He should be out of here after the season. I actually hope he is found guilty of everything and gets suspended for the year so we can cut him without having to pay him.
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BCZ = semi pro blogger
December 13th, 2011 at 1:34 pm
# DMAC Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 1:26 pm
I’m running out of excuses for these lame Raiders.
Someone please help me.
I’ll do anything!
I’ll even suck your………
December 13th, 2011 at 1:37 pm
does all the blame go on Chuck B for not stopping the run?
does all the blame go on Carson Palmer for 4 or 5 turnovers?
does all the blame go on Hue Jackson for lack of depth on the roster & penalties galore?
everybody is looking for somebody to blame. If they aren’t, they are busy trying to make excuses for the Raiders recent struggles
Guess what, fellas?
winning cures everything. tell me how we’re going to defeat the Detroit Lions!
December 13th, 2011 at 1:38 pm
@Blackmamba…..We all saw the game dude. Whats your point?
December 13th, 2011 at 1:38 pm
# joker94583 Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:51 am
Bottom line is Hue is a dysfunctional coach and us paying for the mistakes Al made. It is what it is. The roster needs to be purged completely as they are a bunch of primadonnas and cancers. Hue is in over his head and I think he needs to be kicked out of the coaching profession. I don’t think the Palmer trade was wise, didn’t like Hagan being released so Housh could be brought in. Ausberry needs to be involved and also Pryor. We don’t utilize the TE enough, not enough screens, not enough running wide. I just don’t think Hue uses the players strengths. His ego says this will work. It’s time to call for Hue to be fired.
December 13th, 2011 at 1:39 pm
From the live chat with Steve:
12:38
Comment From Baghdad Bob
McClain’s mother is my best student.
LOL! What?
December 13th, 2011 at 1:39 pm
# RaidingTexas Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 1:28 pm
I see the revisionist troll McFadden20 has returned.
December 13th, 2011 at 1:40 pm
The Raiders defense, although fragile, was good enough to win 7 games so far this year. Are they good enough to win 3 more? I would say it is in the realm of possibility.
December 13th, 2011 at 1:40 pm
Dell’s FF league would be a disaster if he let bloggers like dvrick, sullivan, kell & mistic participate …
Kudos to the pick & choose method. Hopefully BCZ decides to return and maybe ROG gets Jhill’s spot?
December 13th, 2011 at 1:41 pm
# L.A. Raider Dave Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 1:38 pm
@Blackmamba…..We all saw the game dude. Whats your point?
Raiders back to the cellar!
December 13th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 1:06 pm
bcz24 Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 12:54 pm
Gruden went 8-8 in the process of lifting a horrible team out of Joe Bugel’s 4-12 gutter.
HueJax has what was a team trending upwards in a nose dive.
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Gruden didn’t have a lockout, Al Davis death, his starting qb and rb out for the season before the midway point, ALL of his recievers missing considerable time due to injury, and quite possibly the WORST defense in the NFL to contend with.
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You guys keep saying this but the HEAD COACH is responsible for the defense. Davis is not around to blame anymore. If those Dallas Cowboy defenses needed some additional help I can guarantee Jimmy Johnson would be over on that side figuring it out, not just standing on a podium letting fans blame Wanstadt.
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Another lame post. Talk to the Texans about what a defensive coordinator can do for a defense.
And for all you haters out there, come thursday you’re gonna be predicting how we beat the Lions 31-28, so stop frontin.
December 13th, 2011 at 1:43 pm
“tell me how we’re going to defeat the Detroit Lions!”
First we need to deal with the weak side of the O-Line if we are going to be able to establish any kind of running game. Satele has been beaten up all year by bigger guys and this week he gets the biggest and baddest.
Palmer will have to act more like a game manager than a 40-50 passes per game QB. We will need better WR play (no dropped passes).
No penalties or turnovers. Detroit is almost as penalized as we are so if we win that battle it will help a lot.
Stafford can throw picks as he seems to lock in on who he is trowing the ball to so our secondary could get a couple of INT’s
The one glaring thing to me is to find a way to keep 8 out of the box maybe some quick slants and screens will help because it doesn’t look like Ford or Moore will be able to stretch the field due to their injuries.
December 13th, 2011 at 1:43 pm
The Raiders defense, although fragile, was good enough to win 7 games so far this year. Are they good enough to win 3 more? I would say it is in the realm of possibility.
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S-back,
I say yes. If the Raiders can beat the NY Jets & Texans, they can beat the Lions!
which oakland team shows up?
if the last 2 games tell us anything about how we’re going to finish the season, I’d predict 3 more losses – regardless of the opponents. something has to change
December 13th, 2011 at 1:45 pm
Silver,
excellent post # 795
December 13th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
787.L.A. Raider Dave Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 1:38 pm
@Blackmamba…..We all saw the game dude. Whats your point?
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Oh sorry david.. Havent been in here since game, just opening a point of discussion other than the dribble you have been on, oh wait you havent made any comments..
What would you like to talk about?? the stage is yourz
December 13th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
Heres the long and short of it. If we are unable to stop the Lions from running on us, Chuck B should be fired immediately. They are going to be throwing Maurice Morris and Keiland Williams at us, so there is simply no excuse for a let down there.
Stafford and Megatron can beat anyone, so the gameplan should be to lock Routt on Megatron with Huff helping over the top the whole game. Double him ALL day. Lito is capable of covering Titus Young. Wimbley should play DE and rush the passer all day, Mitchell should cover Pettigrew. Our DLine (especially if Wimbley is DE all day) SHOULD be able to be in Staffords face, and Matty will fold under pressure.
Offensively, I agree with many in here that Wiz should start at center, no way in hell is a banged up Satele going to be able to handle Suh. Wiz and Heyer should be doubling Suh all game, and honestly, should pull a little dirty dirt between the whistles to see if they can goad Suh into exploding and even getting himself ejected.
The fact is the Lions are probably the only team in the NFL that is even close to us in being undisciplined and beating themselves. Hell they blew a 30 point lead in the 4th to the Vikings WITHOUT AP, and would have lost the game had the refs not blown an obvious facemask call on the final play.
December 13th, 2011 at 1:51 pm
The one glaring thing to me is to find a way to keep 8 out of the box maybe some quick slants and screens will help because it doesn’t look like Ford or Moore will be able to stretch the field due to their injuries.
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pass to set up the run?
I don’t know, man. Our WR’s scare me. We had like 3 dropped passes from DHB in the 1st quarter alone and he was still BY FAR our best WR. TJ Housh is a bum
Best hope Schilens & Murphy can contribute. Hopefully Carson gives Boss & Myers a few more looks in the passing game. Tell Reece to invest in some stick’um
December 13th, 2011 at 1:53 pm
RR thanks
Silently approaching 1,000 yards is Marshawn Lynch who is currently 7th in rushing yards this year. Maybe Cable is putting together an O-Line in Seattle that will eventually pay off for the Seachickens.
I would think that is the one area where Cable can do well. (Coaching an O-Line)
Not that I am his fan or want him back just pointing out a fact.
December 13th, 2011 at 1:54 pm
Heres the long and short of it. If we are unable to stop the Lions from running on us, Chuck B should be fired immediately. They are going to be throwing Maurice Morris and Keiland Williams at us, so there is simply no excuse for a let down there.
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Reggie Bush & Ryan Grant would be Pro Bowlers if they played against Oakland every week.
Morris and/or Williams might look like Barry Sanders out there this weekend!
December 13th, 2011 at 1:55 pm
Kudos to the pick & choose method. Hopefully BCZ decides to return and maybe ROG gets Jhill’s spot
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Unless the QB scoring changes I won’t be back, although if the draft order is set on record I will have the 3rd overall pick and will at worst have Brees or Brady. I just don’t like that QBs are scoring 70-80 points when the leagues best RB’s and WRs are scoring 20 points on their BEST days.
December 13th, 2011 at 1:56 pm
Murph played pretty decent, i know alot you dudes arent high on him but i think he has plenty to still offer.
Carson hung him out to dry on one pass..he dusted himself off and got back into it.
If he drops 1 pass its all aligator arms he sux blah blah, DHB dropped 3 passes, and cost a pick getting schooled by Charles, just sayin.. murph gets a rough deal.
December 13th, 2011 at 1:56 pm
@ LA Raider Dave ….Im waiting
The stage is yours…..
December 13th, 2011 at 1:58 pm
“pass to set up the run?
I don’t know, man. Our WR’s scare me.”
Yeah I am bothered by this as well. But I just don’t see anything happening in the middle with Suh there.
I don’t know for sure if Wiz would be better suited to deal with him than Satele but its Hue Jackson’s call not mine.
December 13th, 2011 at 1:58 pm
801.Silverandblack666 Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 1:53 pm
RR thanks
Silently approaching 1,000 yards is Marshawn Lynch who is currently 7th in rushing yards this year. Maybe Cable is putting together an O-Line in Seattle that will eventually pay off for the Seachickens.
I would think that is the one area where Cable can do well. (Coaching an O-Line)
Not that I am his fan or want him back just pointing out a fact.
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Marshawn had a career resurgence at the end of last season before cable got there, so its tough to say. But it is hard to argue with Cable’s ability to build a monster run blocking oline, he did it in ATL, Oak and no seattle. But the fact is Cables olines are ALWAYS terrible in pass protection. I would rather Bill Callahan the Tom Cable any day.
December 13th, 2011 at 2:00 pm
WRs are scoring 20 points on their BEST days.
804.Blackmamba_20 Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 1:56 pm
Murph played pretty decent, i know alot you dudes arent high on him but i think he has plenty to still offer.
Carson hung him out to dry on one pass..he dusted himself off and got back into it.
If he drops 1 pass its all aligator arms he sux blah blah, DHB dropped 3 passes, and cost a pick getting schooled by Charles, just sayin.. murph gets a rough deal.
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Nah Murph played his best game this year Sunday… which isn’t saying anything at all really. Hopefully he can continue to improve the next few weeks.
December 13th, 2011 at 2:02 pm
I don’t know for sure if Wiz would be better suited to deal with him than Satele but its Hue Jackson’s call not mine.
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Wiz and Heyer will have to double Suh all day. There isn’t an Oline man on our roster that can stop him alone, although truthfully, there aren’t more than a handful in the entire NFL that can stop him alone, he commands a double team EVERY play, unless you are running a screen and you WANT him to burst through the line of course.
December 13th, 2011 at 2:02 pm
McClain – “My mom said that I played good the last 2 games”.
Holy crap, I can’t believe he said that. Seriously. You can’t make that stuff up.
December 13th, 2011 at 2:05 pm
810.morilla Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 2:02 pm
McClain – “My mom said that I played good the last 2 games”.
Holy crap, I can’t believe he said that. Seriously. You can’t make that stuff up.
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the next Mom that tells her millionaire son he played like crap,
will be the first…
December 13th, 2011 at 2:06 pm
I had a nightmare last night – i dreamed i had a Lisfranc Fracture….. Hate those things
December 13th, 2011 at 2:06 pm
Yeah when the game was all but over Palmer was slinging it to Murphy and GB’s defense didn’t give 1 Fk. Talk about garbage time….go ahead and give alligator arms props you might as well go shine R Seymour’s shoes while your at it.
smh
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bcz24 Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 2:00 pm
Nah Murph played his best game this year Sunday… which isn’t saying anything at all really. Hopefully he can continue to improve the next few weeks.
December 13th, 2011 at 2:08 pm
“McClain – “My mom said that I played good the last 2 games”.”
Well that’s all that matters is you make Mom happy. I wonder if she thought he did well in gun brandishing.
December 13th, 2011 at 2:10 pm
MistaBrown Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 2:06 pm
Yeah when the game was all but over Palmer was slinging it to Murphy and GB’s defense didn’t give 1 Fk. Talk about garbage time
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Garbage time or not he still played his best game of the season, which AGAIN, as I originally pointed out, really isn’t saying anything at all. Is it wrong that I hope he improves? Do you hope he fails?
December 13th, 2011 at 2:10 pm
Do you guys think its a coincidence that McClain renews his gun permit the very day he brandishes the gun in public?
How come no one is talking about that?
December 13th, 2011 at 2:11 pm
Raider underachievers for 2011: (my opinion)
• Coaches (should replace all)
– Chuck Breshnahan, DC
– Greg Biekert, LB
– Brad Roll, strength & conditioning
– Sanjai Lai, WR
– John Fassel, STC
• Starting players – Offense
– Sampson Satele… Move to BU
– Cooper Carlisle… Move to BU
– Kahalif Barnes… Move to BU
– Kevin Boss *Inj
– Darren McFadden *inj
– T.J. Houshmandzadeh
•Back-up players – Offense
– Kyle Boller… Release
– Taiwan Jones
– Louis Murphy… Trade or releae
– Chaz Schilins… Trade or release
– Bruce Campbell
• Starting players – Defense
– Richard Seymour
– Rolando McClain
• Back-up players – Defense
– Trevor Scott… Trade or release
– John Henderson *inj
– Jarvis Moss *inj
– Daryl Blackstock… Trade or release
– Quentin Groves
– Chris Johnson *inj
– Michal Huff *inj
– Jerome Boyd… Trade or releae
– Matt Giordano
– Bryan McCann… Trade or release
– Mike Mitchell *inj
Again, IMO, in addition to a very unusual number of injuries, the above represents why we won’t win the AFC-West and why we will miss the playoffs once again. It’s not all bad news as we do have some very good talent on this team. The secret is to getting them all on the field at the same time. Palmer & the WR’s/TE’s will improve dramatically by the time next year rolls around. Hopefully the O-Line will be rearranged and improved. We can only hope that DMac recovers and is good for more than 4 games a year. My wish for 2012 is that JCampbell decides to stay as our QB-BU. We should be well set for CB’s & Safeties when existing staff returns from injuries. The DB’s
& DB-BU’s will actually be a strength for us.
OTHER THINGS THAT SHOULD CHANGE:
• A GM & Director of Football Operations needs to be hired
• Hue Jackson turns the play calling over to Al Saunders allowing Hue to focus more on HC things like overseeing the entire team including Coordinators & Asst. coaches
• A new real DC needs to be hired sooner than later
• The defense switches to a 3-4 configuration & drafts a run stuffing NT (or two) and more LBers.
December 13th, 2011 at 2:11 pm
VanHeathen Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 2:05 pm
810.morilla Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 2:02 pm
McClain – “My mom said that I played good the last 2 games”.
Holy crap, I can’t believe he said that. Seriously. You can’t make that stuff up.
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the next Mom that tells her millionaire son he played like crap,
will be the first…
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She’s hoping for a December to Remember.
December 13th, 2011 at 2:11 pm
New post?
December 13th, 2011 at 2:12 pm
Dear MistaBrown.
Rich Seymour
When the Packers rushed to the line to catch the Raiders in a 12 men on the field penalty, it was Seymour who was leisurely walking off the field. The free play was a 37 yard touchdown bomb. Last week he was too emotional and punching opposing players, and this week he just didn’t seem to care. Can we find a happy medium, Richard?
I mentioned last week id like to apologize for defending him an calling you out.
December 13th, 2011 at 2:13 pm
I dont hope any Raider fails but Murphy is a 4th or 5th WR and he is 1 dimensional, send him deep because he wets himself going over the middle. He looks for a flag every ball he doesn’t snag and that sh!t is tiring to watch.
Catching balls in garbage time when the defense is all but shut it down doesn’t sway me or give me an ounce of hope he is anything.
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bcz24 Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 2:10 pm
Garbage time or not he still played his best game of the season, which AGAIN, as I originally pointed out, really isn’t saying anything at all. Is it wrong that I hope he improves? Do you hope he fails?
December 13th, 2011 at 2:15 pm
Is it wrong that I hope he improves? Do you hope he fails?
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I like Murph, think he gets a raw deal up in here,
December 13th, 2011 at 2:16 pm
Blkmam apologies are not necessary on this blog. If I showed you the light thats cool but don’t try and hump my leg for brownie points, ok ?
December 13th, 2011 at 2:16 pm
@ LA Raider Dave ….Im still waiting
The stage is yours….. add something to the discussion please.
December 13th, 2011 at 2:17 pm
Those of you that expected Hue to clean up Al Davis’s mess in one season, looks like one of your far fetched, dream candidates to replace him is out.
“Will Bill Cowher coach again? He tells @JPosnanski “I don’t miss it enough to go back” #ThisWeeksSI”
http://twitter.com/#!/SInow
December 13th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
LOL
Your still a senial old man Pessimistic-brown.. but yes you did show the light on that particular.
December 13th, 2011 at 2:22 pm
Is Seymore wearing the ‘Ski Mask’ when he steals, oops, picks up his check on Monday’s?
December 13th, 2011 at 2:23 pm
Murphy can catch a deep ball and he gets better separation than DHB who is supposedly faster. They should use him that way and maybe he is of some use. Sending him over the middle is a waste of a down.
December 13th, 2011 at 2:23 pm
Nothing new?
December 13th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
Im not old and I’m a realist that see’s things you dont.
The end
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Blackmamba_20 Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
LOL
Your still a senial old man Pessimistic-brown.. but yes you did show the light on that particular.
December 13th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
Wow, it’s been a couple of Gray weeks. But…
It’s still a great day to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?!
In the middle of the Playoff hunt, with 3-games left = a very good thing.
BUT…Hue Jax and the boys need to get back to that “build a bully” theme in a hurry. So what if they haven’t exactly got it down…it comes with a certain amount of swagger (at least in the beginning of games), and effort is never in doubt.
Plus, after a few games of actually playing like a bully, they’ll start to believe in themselves. It’s not too late, and it’s imperative it happens if we’re to make the Playoffs.
December 13th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
DHB is fast, but his adjustment on the ball in flight is not very good… the 3 drops in GB were attrocious.
Can’t believe he thinks he “made up for them” with garbage time catches… sad
December 13th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
Not really.
We lost 3 straight and dont look like we can beat Indy.
These are great times in your eyes huh?
lol
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HayesDaze37 Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
Wow, it’s been a couple of Gray weeks. But…
It’s still a great day to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?!
December 13th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
Murphy is a deep threat but….he just mite drop the ball!!
December 13th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 2:17 pm
Those of you that expected Hue to clean up Al Davis’s mess in one season, looks like one of your far fetched, dream candidates to replace him is out.
“Will Bill Cowher coach again? He tells @JPosnanski “I don’t miss it enough to go back” #ThisWeeksSI”
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RaidingTexas Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 7:26 am
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
AGREE THAT HUE IS IN OVER HIS HEAD,BUT ANOTHER EX-COACH HAS TO WANT TO COME HERE.COWHER,GRUDEN TYPES HAVE CUSHY TV JOBS MAKING GOOD MONEY.ITS EASY TO SAY BRING IN ANOTHER COACH,DO U WANT IT TO BE THE SAME OLD CABLE-LANCE-NORV-ART CIRCLE JERK,2 YRS AND OUT ..
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Yeah, I agree about Cowher and Gruden. They aren’t going back to coaching.
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We’re way ahead of you and this “news”. Now STFU
December 13th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
MistaBrown Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
Im not old and I’m a realist that see’s things you dont.
The end
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You must see alot of things rolling around the floor laughing right !!
The End
December 13th, 2011 at 2:27 pm
DHB is fast after the catch but off the line of scrimmage he is slow, he doesn’t get any separation.
When have you see DHB run straight down the field and leave the DB in the dust ??????
December 13th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
Ok nevermind he is 100% useless.
lol
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r8dercain Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
Murphy is a deep threat but….he just mite drop the ball!!
December 13th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
MB — In your racist world, it’s never a great day.
But, in my world…win or lose, it affects my TEAM LOYALTY not one bit.
It’s always a great day to be a Raiders fan.
You’re welcome.
December 13th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
Screw ‘Build a bully’…
how about: Build a WINNER!
there’s real bullies in this league and we aren’t anywhere near that…
And his ‘play like a raider’ BS, was lifted from the Raven’s…saw it painted over the door to their stadium on thursday nite football, made me ill to think he’s lifting other teams cliche’s…
Just Win Hue! simple as that
December 13th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
837.MistaBrown Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 2:27 pm
DHB is fast after the catch but off the line of scrimmage he is slow, he doesn’t get any separation.
When have you see DHB run straight down the field and leave the DB in the dust ??????
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Only at Maryland
December 13th, 2011 at 2:30 pm
“DHB is fast, but his adjustment on the ball in flight is not very good”
Ever notice how he jumps up to make a catch and always uses his body you never see his hand outstretched to make a catch.
December 13th, 2011 at 2:31 pm
And Hayes goes for the race card!!!!
DING DING DING what do we have for him Johnny ?
A set of golf clubs autographed by 3 of Tiger’s fav ho’s!
What else?
A 50.00 gift card for Applebee’s
Come on DOWN HayesDaze!
smh
December 13th, 2011 at 2:31 pm
DHB never adjusts to the DB’s inside and gets pinned to the sidelines on deep balls…D Moore had that figured out as a Rook in camp. Part of the reason why he was so effective.
December 13th, 2011 at 2:31 pm
Blackmamba_20 Says:
Only at Maryland
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Easy to do when you’re playing against the likes of Boston College and Duke.
December 13th, 2011 at 2:32 pm
Thank you
The end.
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Blackmamba_20 Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
Only at Maryland
December 13th, 2011 at 2:32 pm
DHB’s ’speed’ may be the most overrated thing on our team. I have never seen ANYTHING of him that tells me he is fast. His 2 long TDs of his career were both a product of the defender falling down, and ANY NFL WR would have scored in those 2 situations. DHB’s speed is a myth in my opinion. I love the kids heart, but that alone isn’t enough. Even at his best hisn’t more than a #3 receiver.
December 13th, 2011 at 2:33 pm
Too much criticism of DHB right now…when he played a pretty good game. There are some other culprits, not the least of whom are CP3, RoMcCLain and Hue Jax.
December 13th, 2011 at 2:34 pm
So DHB has this world class speed we been hearing about for 3 years and he cant separate 18 inches running straight downfield! The DB goes step for step with him…yet a slug like Murphy can run past a DB….and catch the ball (sometimes).
Hmmmmm, ok
December 13th, 2011 at 2:34 pm
Apparently your standards of a good game are not in the same world as the rest of us.
DHB is a hot mess!
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HayesDaze37 Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 2:33 pm
Too much criticism of DHB right now…when he played a pretty good game
December 13th, 2011 at 2:35 pm
840.VanHeathen Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
Screw ‘Build a bully’…
how about: Build a WINNER!
there’s real bullies in this league and we aren’t anywhere near that…
And his ‘play like a raider’ BS, was lifted from the Raven’s…saw it painted over the door to their stadium on thursday nite football, made me ill to think he’s lifting other teams cliche’s…
Just Win Hue! simple as that
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Hue gave up the ‘Building a Bully’ rhetoric in Training camp, only the fans in here and the occasional media flunky still bring it up, and EVERY team says “Play like a ‘insert team name’”
Just like every teams fan base calls itself ‘blank’Nation…
December 13th, 2011 at 2:36 pm
[...] Jackson says there’s a time to cry ‘uncle’ Raiders coach Hue Jackson said Monday that there’s a time to cry uncle. Despite what some might think, Jackson and the Raiders aren’t giving up on this season. The time to cry uncle, Jackson said, comes when quarterback Carson Palmer is a… [...]
December 13th, 2011 at 2:37 pm
HayesDaze37 Says:
Too much criticism of DHB right now…when he played a pretty good game. There are some other culprits, not the least of whom are CP3, RoMcCLain and Hue Jax.
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If by “pretty good”, you mean better than Ford and Moore, I agree.
He had three drops in the first quarter alone.
December 13th, 2011 at 2:37 pm
Hayes I haven’t made anything remotely close to a racial statement but that didn’t stop you from coming in here and throwing your card did it ?
horses rear end
December 13th, 2011 at 2:40 pm
Hue Jax to Schwartz by halftime: UNCLE!
December 13th, 2011 at 2:41 pm
# Dakota Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 1:11 pm
638.DMAC Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
You guys think, that if we still had Marshall, our W column would be higher?
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Thankfully the days of having to hire desperate, patsy D-Coordinators are done. We can now go out and pick someone with some good credentials to run the D.
Might be a biggest offseason acquisition.
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We can only hope and pray that is the case! It would be nice for once to have a LEGIT D Coordinator on this team football team to compliment the offense!
December 13th, 2011 at 2:41 pm
Beg to differ w/ u BCZ:
Hue was spewing the ‘Bully’ rhetoric during the season,
Didn’t know about the ‘Play like a…” still, i expect something fresh from a young HC trying to make a name for himself…or resort to our teams personal history.
Just Win Baby,
Committment to Excellence and Pride and Poise, says it all…no need top graft any other NFL cliche’s in my opinion. We’ve got 3 sayings of our own that spell it out clearly.
December 13th, 2011 at 2:42 pm
McClain has shown, one too many times, he is indescribably immature…especially for the “QB” on D. Leadership goes on AND off the field. His lack thereof has affected his, and the Team’s, focus immensely. And, that’s not even addressing his poor play on the field. He’s either intentionally ignoring it, or he’s delusional…but he isn’t even close to playing to expectations.
CP3??? Good veterans don’t do what he did with his first Int the other day. He’s smarter than that, and his panic knee-jerk toss set the tone for the day. Needs a tighter leash.
Hue Jax? Needs to get back to coaching, back to connecting to all his guys…the guys that REALLY want to be great (McClain?!). As opposed to getting wrapped up in the distractions, spending time explaining happenings outside the sidelines.
December 13th, 2011 at 2:42 pm
Whoever is saying that Hue Jack needs to be fired after the season is a freakin IDIOT!!
December 13th, 2011 at 2:44 pm
Actually Huey only said building a bully two or three times this year.
The media and moron bloggers keep on bringing it up over and over again.
December 13th, 2011 at 2:44 pm
CP3??? Good veterans don’t do what he did with his first Int the other day. He’s smarter than that, and his panic knee-jerk toss set the tone for the day. Needs a tighter leash.
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Agree
It was a shame as we had started well with a couple of nice passes..Once that went down it all went down hill.
December 13th, 2011 at 2:44 pm
MB — Everybody knows who the resident racists are…it’s not like I let out your big secret.
December 13th, 2011 at 2:44 pm
Of course Huey wants to “build” a bully.
He never said the team “IS” a bully!
It takes time to build a bully fellas.
December 13th, 2011 at 2:46 pm
Hue is a coordinator.
His coaching as a rookie should deservingly be a pass of some sort.
Then again, this league isn’t about big talkers.
December 13th, 2011 at 2:49 pm
HUE IS OBVIOUSLY LEARNING ON THE JOB.WE ALL AS FANS HOPE HE GETS BETTER.SOONER THAN LATER.
December 13th, 2011 at 2:50 pm
Any good RT prospects for next year..
Khalif Barnes is surley done in S&B..
December 13th, 2011 at 2:50 pm
# raiderinparadise Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 2:46 pm
Hue is a coordinator.
His coaching as a rookie should deservingly be a pass of some sort.
Then again, this league isn’t about big talkers.
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Uh..the D was going to be a big problem for this team if they were going to get anywhere with Chuck B running the show. Most of us in here knew this.
JC going down in the middle of the season doesn’t help, and injuries to DMC, Ford, Moore and T Jones hasn’t helped the cause either.
Despite all this I think Huey has done an admirable job to get this far. If they finish strong, that would be a nice surprise as well…especially if they dont have DMC (out for year i think) Ford or Moore or T Jones coming back for the final 3 games.
December 13th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
all this talk about tebow but cardnials qb skelton is better imo and is getting it done with less than what tebow has and his record as a starter is nearly identical to tebows. So why is no one talking about him? he actually beat the niners after suffering his only loss as a starter to them a few weeks ago. must be the god thing…
December 13th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
DHB didn’t have 3 out-right drops in the 1st quarter. And a few of his catches were outstanding, not just average catches.
DHB didn’t lose the game Sunday…he’d be waaaaaay down the list of those to point fingers at. Of course, if one has already made up his mind about the player, he’ll never be good enough anyway.
#1 reason we fell in a hole early against GB?? CP3 playing like a rookie early.
#2 reason we continued to sink in the hole?? Chuckie B.
…and so on and so on. Effort and production-wise, DHB wouldn’t even be in the bottom-10 for the GB game. He was far from being the reason we lost.
December 13th, 2011 at 2:54 pm
It aint Hueys fault he got stuck with a crappy D Coordinator this year.
Palmer needs to stop turning the ball over starting this weekend and the D needs to suck it up and man up if this team is going to finish strong.
Chuck B needs to pull his head out of azz for 3 games in a row also. Somehow…someway!
December 13th, 2011 at 2:54 pm
Even when we win our last three games we are going to need help (the Jets or Bengals to lose a couple of games) because I don’t see Denver losing 2 of their last 3 games especially when they are playing Buffalo and KC.
December 13th, 2011 at 2:56 pm
KC will lay down like dogs versus Denver to just screw the Raiders also!
Raiders need to win out and let the chips fall where they may.
December 13th, 2011 at 2:56 pm
If we win out, the Jets, titans and bengals need to lose just one…and we at least get wild card. If Denver beats NE…besides it being fishy, they wil win the west, unless Buffalo and KC beat them, which I don’t see either…
December 13th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
Hue Jax absolutely carried the Build A Bully theme well into the season. It only disappeared after a few a$$-whippings.
It’s time to get back to an all-out, ballz-out, in-yer-face, style of play. The way this team was built to play.
December 13th, 2011 at 2:58 pm
Fk you and your race card pulling idiotic ass I dont care WTF color you are.
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HayesDaze37 Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 2:44 pm
MB — Everybody knows who the resident racists are…it’s not like I let out your big secret.
December 13th, 2011 at 2:59 pm
For those of you asking “WHY AREN’T THOSE DIRTY OCCUPY HIPPIES IN DC AND WHAT ARE THEY PROTESTING”
First, Wall st. OWNS Washington.
Secondly, we’ll, this explains it all…
”At this point, who can even remember who took worthless subprime mortgages and knowingly bundled them as mortgage derivatives so they could be sold, rebundled and resold to pension funds and banks around the world until — because this entire scheme is a castle of sand and s**t — it inevitably collapsed, annihilating $17 trillion, [the] national economy, centuries-old financial institutions, and the life savings of untold millions of Americans? I can’t!”
Stephen Colbert
December 13th, 2011 at 2:59 pm
DKnight007 Says:
Of course Huey wants to “build” a bully.
He never said the team “IS” a bully!
It takes time to build a bully fellas.
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Nobody disputes that it takes time to build a bully. The difference in opinions is between those who think it really is heading toward bully, and those who think it is headed toward being bullied.
Maybe I have a bad memory, but I sure don’t remember last season’s Raiders losing 28-0 to a really bad team and being down 34-0 to another really bad team. But I do remember last season’s Raiders winning by multiple TDs in five games.
Regression.
December 13th, 2011 at 2:59 pm
Hayes you are 0-2 today, first you said Im a racist and then you said DHB had a good game. Your blind and stupid, obviously.
December 13th, 2011 at 3:00 pm
875. We’re soooo far beyond racism. So far beyond Dem Repub. Its the 400 richest people on earth against everyone else…
December 13th, 2011 at 3:02 pm
MB — Back to football then. What were the top reasons the TEAM lost Sunday? Did DHB lose it?
December 13th, 2011 at 3:03 pm
What are you talking about? Oh yah class warfare, pres derelicts fav topic!
I’m not against anybody and the 400 richest sure not worried about what I’m doing.
Wake your ass up before its too late!
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GoodOle00 Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 3:00 pm
875. We’re soooo far beyond racism. So far beyond Dem Repub. Its the 400 richest people on earth against everyone else…
December 13th, 2011 at 3:03 pm
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh sunday will finalize it all. all talk, all predictions, all wishes, prayers, hopes ….. sunday OAK faces their 3rd str8 must win … and the last 2 of those they got blown out and play un-inspired.
December 13th, 2011 at 3:04 pm
HayesDaze37 Says:
DHB didn’t lose the game Sunday…he’d be waaaaaay down the list of those to point fingers at.
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Did somebody say he lost the game? Please point to it.
I agree, he wasn’t remotely near the worst part of what we saw Sunday. But you seem to be conveniently remembering only his good plays.
I like how he hustles after he has the ball. He fights for extra yardage better than most receivers in the league, IMO. But he’s way too inconsistent in the rest of his game for a third year guy who was drafted in the top ten.
I don’t have a problem with him being on the team as a #3 WR. But he makes too much for what he produces.
December 13th, 2011 at 3:04 pm
You asking me if DHB lost the game shows you are a mental midget.
We lost the game in all 3 phases, ok? Now go Fk yourself.
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HayesDaze37 Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 3:02 pm
MB — Back to football then. What were the top reasons the TEAM lost Sunday? Did DHB lose it?
December 13th, 2011 at 3:06 pm
TX — The point is…at least DHB made SOME good plays! Just seems funny to me he’s getting hammered, when all over the field, the team was going down in flames.
December 13th, 2011 at 3:07 pm
“MB — Everybody knows who the resident racists are…it’s not like I let out your big secret.”
You know I myself do not like MistaBrown or a lot of his opinions but I have never seen him as a racist so your off base on that one.
December 13th, 2011 at 3:08 pm
Rotoworld:
Darrius Heyward-Bey led the Raiders with 78 yards on five receptions against the Packers in Week 14.
The numbers are incredibly deceptive. Heyward-Bey was a picture of inefficiency, as Carson Palmer dialed up a drop or an interception on roughly half of DHB’s 11 targets. The lone highlight was a 34-yard catch to set up Michael Bush’s 2-yard score. Heyward-Bey’s Week 15 viability hinges on the status of Jacoby Ford and Denarius Moore. Dec 11 – 8:33 PM
December 13th, 2011 at 3:08 pm
Thanks SeyGlen
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Silverandblack666 Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 3:07 pm
You know I myself do not like MistaBrown or a lot of his opinions
December 13th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
DHB jumps on almost every pass he catches and he catches the ball with his body not his hands.
He has never shown the breakaway speed we have heard about.
Is he playing better, sure has he shown improvement this year, you bet he has but he is still not where we need him to be after 3 years and 20 million dollars.
December 13th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
Ha. OK.
December 13th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
Hayes go ahead and throw your card at all the DHB haters.
Jack A
December 13th, 2011 at 3:14 pm
Kwame Brown at 7 million a year lol.
That dude is a fag, both on and off the court.
Freaking Warriors.
December 13th, 2011 at 3:15 pm
Thanks Fire I was just about to forget about that news.
December 13th, 2011 at 3:16 pm
DHB cathces those three drops he is the lone positive of the day.
But who cares, he dropped them. It was a blowout loss.
He will have multiple chances against the lions weak defense. Thats when we will need him to not make mistakes becuase this game will be winnable.
December 13th, 2011 at 3:16 pm
892.Just Fire Baby Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 3:14 pm
Kwame Brown at 7 million a year lol.
That dude is a fag, both on and off the court.
Freaking Warriors.
I’m not a Warrior fan and I said the same thing
December 13th, 2011 at 3:17 pm
I’m not saying DHB played a great game. But, not even close to a bad one.
No doubt…CP3’s top three weapons were sorely missed. It’s imperative the Raiders have Jacoby Ford and Denarius Moore back…and DMC’s absence has been a great loss.
The 1-2 of DMC and MBush29 is quite a weapon to have…and makes all the other weapons on Offense more dangerous. DHB included.
December 13th, 2011 at 3:18 pm
If all of you basketball fans wanted to talk about the Warriors here on this blog, I could understand that….but all the Laker talk in here makes me sick.
December 13th, 2011 at 3:19 pm
Oh…is there a league for basketball?
December 13th, 2011 at 3:20 pm
“Uh..the D was going to be a big problem for this team if they were going to get anywhere with Chuck B running the show. Most of us in here knew this.”
Our porous defense is not the result of Bresnahan. He may never be the king of defenses, but as they say, he’s not the one trying to tackle, not the one jumping offsides, getting personal foul penalties. If you think it’s Bresnahan’s fault, then you have to fault Beikert and Woodson too, and I doubt you want to do that.
We do not have a talented defensive team. We have a bunch of mediocre, average, no-better-than most NFL players on defense and that is why they have won some battles and lost some battles and that is why they will never be anything special.
Because of the “Raider Mystique” crafted by wily Al Davis, who was both intelligent yet capable of tremendous self-delusion because of his ego, over the years the media, the local media included, have parroted the “talented” remark until people actually came to believe that the Raiders, although they never achieved much over the last many years, were “talented.”
This much can be said: because of poor decisions by Al and because of his proclivity to take the players’ sides and undercut his own coaches, and because of the chaotic coaching merry-go-round of the last many years, Raider teams probably DID underperform. However, that a group of players doesn’t perform as well as they and others expect them to perform is not to say they are “talented.” Maybe last year’s team should been 9-7 rather than 8-8, but had they achieved the 9-7 rather than the 8-8, I’d not conclude they were “talented.” I’d conclude they were one game above mediocre. In school, that would compute to a
C+, hardly illustrative of “talented.”
We have talent at a few positions, when our players aren’t hurt, but almost all teams do. A few really good players does not a “talented team” make.
I, for one, don’t want to hear that adjective applied to this team until they go a whole season proving they are talented. I hope they don’t hear that word applied to them by anyone next training camp. They start believing it. That’s the problem–believing it w/out earning it, proving to themselves its applicable.
December 13th, 2011 at 3:25 pm
Raiderinparadise Says:
He will have multiple chances against the lions weak defense.
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If the line can keep Suh out of Palmer’s face long enough. Let’s hope so.
December 13th, 2011 at 3:25 pm
“We do not have a talented defensive team. We have a bunch of mediocre, average, no-better-than most NFL players on defense and that is why they have won some battles and lost some battles and that is why they will never be anything special.”
You forgot to add that they are paid like they are “Talented”
December 13th, 2011 at 3:29 pm
Talent means nothing in a lost season. How many Chaz Schilenses can one team have?
Besides Chaz not fulfilling his potential once again, there are JFord, DMoore, LMurphy, DMC, and a few more watching their seasons wash away (Shaughnessy/IR). Hopefully we get a few of those guys back before it’s too late to matter.
December 13th, 2011 at 3:29 pm
REPOST
Raider underachievers for 2011: (my opinion)
• Coaches (should replace all)
– Chuck Breshnahan, DC… FIRE immediately to send a message
– Greg Biekert, LB
– Brad Roll, strength & conditioning
– Sanjai Lai, WR
– John Fassel, STC
• Starting players – Offense
– Sampson Satele… Move to BU
– Cooper Carlisle… Move to BU
– Kahalif Barnes… Move to BU
– Kevin Boss *Inj
– Darren McFadden *inj
– T.J. Houshmandzadeh… Release
•Back-up players – Offense
– Kyle Boller… Release
– Taiwan Jones
– Louis Murphy… Trade or release
– Chaz Schilins… Trade or release
– Bruce Campbell… Develop, trade or release
• Starting players – Defense
– Richard Seymour
– Rolando McClain
• Back-up players – Defense
– Trevor Scott… Trade or release
– John Henderson *inj
– Jarvis Moss *inj
– Daryl Blackstock… Trade or release
– Quentin Groves
– Chris Johnson *inj
– Michal Huff *inj
– Jerome Boyd… Trade or releae
– Matt Giordano… Trade or release
– Bryan McCann… Trade or release
– Mike Mitchell *inj
Again, IMO, in addition to a very unusual number of injuries, the above represents why we won’t win the AFC-West and why we will miss the playoffs once again. It’s not all bad news as we do have some very good talent on this team. The secret is to getting them all on the field at the same time. Palmer & the WR’s/TE’s will improve dramatically by the time next year rolls around. Hopefully the O-Line will be rearranged and improved. We can only hope that DMac recovers and is good for more than 4 games a year. My wish for 2012 is that JCampbell decides to stay as our QB-BU. We should be well set for CB’s & Safeties when existing staff returns from injuries. The DB’s & DB-BU’s will actually be a strength for us.
OTHER THINGS THAT SHOULD CHANGE:
• A GM & Director of Football Operations needs to be hired
• Hue Jackson turns the play calling over to Al Saunders allowing Hue to focus more on HC things like overseeing the entire team including Coordinators & Asst. coaches
• A new real DC needs to be hired sooner than later
• The defense switches to a 3-4 configuration & drafts a run stuffing NT (or two) and more LBers.
December 13th, 2011 at 3:35 pm
hmm lets see, RGIII is listed at 6″1 plays in the spread, and is a super freak athletically. even though his best asset is his decision making and throwing arm, this part of his game will be picked apart. he uses his eyes to move defenders like a 10 year pro qb, his mechanics are above reproach, he is 4.00 student and has that oh so elusive clutch gene. he is also deadly accurate, the most accurate passer i have ever seen in college, in the pocket and on the move
The focus during the draft will be ” he plays in spread and spread qbs arent good in the nfl”
“he is too short”
” he cant read the defense” ( he has 77tds -17 picks)
” he cant play from the pocket’
“he played in the big 12 against inferior talent”
All of the same old trash used to keep brothas from going high in the draft will be used against him
He doesnt have the size of newton and didnt win the national title, so these so called knocks against him will push him down below inferior talent at his position.
with barkly jones and luck in the draft i am almost certain he will not go in the first, even though he is far and away the best qb in this draft.
Im sure we can package palmer and trade into the second or third round where he can be had. I would be shocked if anybody drafted him in the first.
Hue….make it happen and all will be forgiven
December 13th, 2011 at 3:36 pm
so hu cant handle being the head coach and play caller? but mcarthy gruden holmgren harbough and all of those others can?
what evidence supports this?
December 13th, 2011 at 3:37 pm
The life of the Oakland Raiders and Raider Nation. We sit here and wonder which team will show up on Sunday vs. Detroit, while the media rips the team a new one! The national media, meanwhile, basks in the glory of Tim Tebow, trying to determine how he will top his last miracle vs. Chicago. The big win over Houston looked like we had promise, and then some plague hit Alameda and players have been literally dropping like flies! There is no good fortune that comes to Raider Land. Hue and the boys must come out fighting for their lives on December 18, and give us hope!
December 13th, 2011 at 3:38 pm
What makes Hue Jax special is his Offensive acumen. Giving play-calling duties to someone else would diminish his fingerprints on the team too much. He needs to stay all over the O to be a viable head coach for the Raiders.
Hue Jax needs to spend less time with off-the-field biz, though. He’s a football coach.
December 13th, 2011 at 3:38 pm
Sorry Mystic but Palmer is NOT going anywhere.
December 13th, 2011 at 3:38 pm
Hue has done a great job his rookie year all things considered.
December 13th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
Hue….make it happen and all will be forgiven
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Dude, I agree RG3 could be the real deal. But if the Raiders got him, that would mean they used four 2012 draft picks on quarterbacks! That’s nutso thinking LMAO
December 13th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
# JB Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 3:38 pm
Sorry Mystic but Palmer is NOT going anywhere.
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we may all be sorry about that in the end, then again if he flops i could see hu moving him next year. he is quick with the eject button we have already seen that
December 13th, 2011 at 3:41 pm
Raiders need to sack Detroit qbs eight times.
December 13th, 2011 at 3:42 pm
# RaidingTexas Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
Hue….make it happen and all will be forgiven
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Dude, I agree RG3 could be the real deal. But if the Raiders got him, that would mean they used four 2012 draft picks on quarterbacks! That’s nutso thinking LMAO
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it would be admission of mistakes, but honest eveluation and correcting mistakes is how you win. you dont keep a guy that cant play simply because you gave up a ton to get him, just ask jamarcuss
December 13th, 2011 at 3:43 pm
“All of the same old trash used to keep brothas from going high in the draft will be used against him”
And those same things will be said about every other player entering the NFL draft white, black, yellow or green. Its called critique and they use it for every player not just the ones you covet.
One last correction RG3 has a 3.67 GPA not a 4.0
December 13th, 2011 at 3:43 pm
Hue’s done a good job. Make it to the Playoffs, and he’ll do what was expected of him. If we can make some hay in the Playoffs, then he’ll have done a great job.
It’s crunch-time…when good teams make great things happen. And when we’ll see just how good a coach Hue Jax really is.
December 13th, 2011 at 3:44 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 3:36 pm
so hu cant handle being the head coach and play caller? but mcarthy gruden holmgren harbough and all of those others can?
what evidence supports this?
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Maybe he fact that we are not going to be the Division Champions and the fact that we will mis he playoffs once again. The other coaches you mentioned are not rookie HC’s nor do they have the number of team problems for the HC to deal with. Maybe after he gets the problems fixed he can call plays but why would he want to if everything is running smoothly. Al Saunders is a quality OC. Use him for the purpose he was hired. Hues talents motivating people could be better used if he had more time to micro manage.
December 13th, 2011 at 3:45 pm
RG3 will be a top 10 pick so stop the spin cycle now Mytic1!
December 13th, 2011 at 3:47 pm
Hues ability to call plays and Saunders as well, are hindered by injury
December 13th, 2011 at 3:47 pm
“Maybe he fact that we are not going to be the Division Champions and the fact that we will mis he playoffs once again. The other coaches you mentioned are not rookie HC’s nor do they have the number of team problems for the HC to deal with. Maybe after he gets the problems fixed he can call plays but why would he want to if everything is running smoothly. Al Saunders is a quality OC. Use him for the purpose he was hired. Hues talents motivating people could be better used if he had more time to micro manage.”
Mystic wanted you to say its because he is a black man and all the other coaches he listed are white. But you used logic instead of racial hate like he does so you are the bigger man.
December 13th, 2011 at 3:47 pm
Physically “talented” is useless w/out grit, no?
On every really successful team, there has to be at least one gritty leader who is also a performer. Performer= player that makes positive things happen. There has to be at least one on offense and one on defense. They have to set an example; others follow. Even when he is hurt, Roethlisberger is gritty and the offense follows his lead. Tebow is gritty. and he performs when he has to.
Identify that player on our offense? On our defense? (grit + make positive things happen? )
December 13th, 2011 at 3:50 pm
I have said this 100 times in here and I am getting tired of repeating myself.
Palmer and Pryor are the Raiders QB’s of the present and future we will not be drafting at that position, period!
December 13th, 2011 at 3:52 pm
This has been of the craziest years in Raider history. The team still has a chance to win the division. Hue and Palmer will come back next year, and they deserve to. Chuckie B has to go, though. He was one of Davis’ last mistakes. No way should of he or Boller been a part of this team.
December 13th, 2011 at 3:52 pm
Waaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!
That is all. Carry on.
December 13th, 2011 at 3:53 pm
# Silverandblack666 Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 3:43 pm
“All of the same old trash used to keep brothas from going high in the draft will be used against him”
And those same things will be said about every other player entering the NFL draft white, black, yellow or green. Its called critique and they use it for every player not just the ones you covet.
One last correction RG3 has a 3.67 GPA not a 4.0
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so i missed on gpa oops
but these are the issues almost always cited against black qbs, going back to lenny moore being made to play running back.
we saw these thrown at newton even last year. if you took your head out of your azz you might have been aware of these facts, it hasnt changed
remember the racist smear campaign against cam last year? warren moon even talked about it.
When he is drafted, he will have a very short time to prove he belongs, we often get a very quick hook.
He is talented beyond belief, and the old boys network and closet clansmen nfl owners cant stop the bum rush
December 13th, 2011 at 3:53 pm
HayesDaze37 Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 3:43 pm
Hue’s done a good job. Make it to the Playoffs, and he’ll do what was expected of him. If we can make some hay in the Playoffs, then he’ll have done a great job.
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I do agree with this, but he has done a “good job” as of about 12 games into the season.
If we continue to get humilated like this, in 2 of the next 3 games, than Hue will have done a terrible job, IMO.
December 13th, 2011 at 3:53 pm
Mistic1, 663 was a great post.
All the critics of the defense forget all the time they are spending on the field. They get gassed after all the 3 and outs. Not all Palmers fault either. If he had McFadden, Ford and and our other skill speedsters, he wouldn’t be facing the defenses he has to deal with. There are no passing lanes open all Bush can do is run straight and cannot cut back. DHB and Glass Shilens are a joke.
Hue Jackson was Houdini in the 3 game streak. He has done a good job under the circumstances without a Randy Hanson to take out his frustrations on.
December 13th, 2011 at 3:53 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
it would be admission of mistakes, but honest eveluation and correcting mistakes is how you win. you dont keep a guy that cant play simply because you gave up a ton to get him, just ask jamarcuss
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I have no problem with them admitting mistakes. I definitely think they should do so with some other guys on the team.
But the Raiders would have to give up way too much to get into a position to draft RG3. They can’t keep mortgaging the future like this. If they had a first round pick in 2012 and he was on the board, it would be a no-brainer. But they don’t. And they shouldn’t sabotage yet another draft year for him.
December 13th, 2011 at 3:54 pm
Al Davis’ decision to keep Boller as the backup QB cost the Raiders two high draft picks.
December 13th, 2011 at 3:54 pm
Does anybody know if Ford and/or Moore are practicing?
December 13th, 2011 at 3:54 pm
Wow. Stafford has 29 TD’s and 3800 passing yards. Calvin Joshn has 1300 rec and 12 tds. Time to get hits on stafford. He is fragile! or else we get burned.
December 13th, 2011 at 3:54 pm
Don’t get me wrong, I very much like HUJack. I think he’s just trying to do too much on his own. He will succeed, it will just take a little time which he will get. He’s a good face of the Raiders PR wise.
as far as Palmer goes, he will be just fine once he gains the necessary familiarity with his WR’s. He was just getting very proficient with Ford, D-wow & DHB. Then, 2 out of the 3 went down. Both Palmer & DHB tried too hard to make up the shortfall and that results in turnovers. Don’t forget, Palmer’s credibility is a much dependent on his skills and maybe even more so on the performance of the WR’s. Palmer throws to where a WR is supposed to be. Most if not all elite QB’s throw in this fashion. Even the Brady’s, Mannings’s & alike don’t do all that well with new & rookie WR’s who must learn patterns and timing and perfect them through repetition.
December 13th, 2011 at 3:54 pm
# Silverandblack666 Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 3:47 pm
“Maybe he fact that we are not going to be the Division Champions and the fact that we will mis he playoffs once again. The other coaches you mentioned are not rookie HC’s nor do they have the number of team problems for the HC to deal with. Maybe after he gets the problems fixed he can call plays but why would he want to if everything is running smoothly. Al Saunders is a quality OC. Use him for the purpose he was hired. Hues talents motivating people could be better used if he had more time to micro manage.”
Mystic wanted you to say its because he is a black man and all the other coaches he listed are white. But you used logic instead of racial hate like he does so you are the bigger man.
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idiot
how many black head coaches today are calling their own plays? wait how many black head coaches are even in the nfl?
My post had nothing to do with black or white, dumb azz
December 13th, 2011 at 3:55 pm
Just sue Baby!
December 13th, 2011 at 3:55 pm
JB Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 3:54 pm
Don’t get me wrong, I very much like HUJack. I think he’s just trying to do too much on his own. He will succeed, it will just take a little time which he will get. He’s a good face of the Raiders PR wise.
as far as Palmer goes, he will be just fine once he gains the necessary familiarity with his WR’s. He was just getting very proficient with Ford, D-wow & DHB. Then, 2 out of the 3 went down. Both Palmer & DHB tried too hard to make up the shortfall and that results in turnovers. Don’t forget, Palmer’s credibility is a much dependent on his skills and maybe even more so on the performance of the WR’s
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thats fair, we will see
December 13th, 2011 at 3:56 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 3:52 pm
This has been of the craziest years in Raider history. The team still has a chance to win the division. Hue and Palmer will come back next year, and they deserve to. Chuckie B has to go, though. He was one of Davis’ last mistakes. No way should of he or Boller been a part of this team.
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Post of the day.
December 13th, 2011 at 3:56 pm
922. Agreed
December 13th, 2011 at 3:57 pm
joetoronto Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 3:54 pm
Does anybody know if Ford and/or Moore are practicing?
*******
They ran and worked out with trainers monday. MOst opinions say Ford is closer and even ford admitted he doesn’t wanna come back unless he 100% …. to me that means he isn’tt ready either.
December 13th, 2011 at 3:57 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 3:50 pm
I have said this 100 times in here and I am getting tired of repeating myself.
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easy fix
SHUT THE FUGG UP THEN
December 13th, 2011 at 3:58 pm
Thanks, raiderinparadise.
I knew about yesterday, I was wondering if anybody heard anything about today yet.
December 13th, 2011 at 3:59 pm
Commitment to Litigation.
Just sue Baby.
December 13th, 2011 at 4:01 pm
Thats basically just a tough loss against the champs. We have no explosion on offense now due to injuries. Carson is trying to be a hero when we just need someone to manage the game and hold on to the ball. Hue is learning fast why coaches tend to call more conservative plays and save the big play for when its not expected. The line looked like rookies against Miami and GB and only reinforces the point that we need a high quality center. Sorry blackmamba. got busy with work!
December 13th, 2011 at 4:02 pm
929. Per the new CBA no practices on Tuesdays
December 13th, 2011 at 4:02 pm
The BIGGEST obstacle that HuJack had/has to deal with this year = Chuck Bresnahan’s incompetence.
December 13th, 2011 at 4:02 pm
Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 3:59 pm
Commitment to Litigation.
Just sue Baby.
………..
Those days are over. We have management that prioritizes winning on the field now.
December 13th, 2011 at 4:02 pm
RGIII is awesome.
He does lack some size and I question his durability, but everything else is there.
Unfortunately, HE won’t be there when we pick.
December 13th, 2011 at 4:03 pm
No practice which is maybe why we have a 1,000 post long blog. C’mon Steve!
December 13th, 2011 at 4:03 pm
“When he is drafted, he will have a very short time to prove he belongs, we often get a very quick hook.”
Like Kordell Stewart who Cower kept on trying to make into a playoff QB year after year.
The so called smear campaign on Newton last year is the same stuff you hear every year about the number 1 pick. It comes with the territory maybe your just thin skinned and you cant take criticism.
December 13th, 2011 at 4:03 pm
LARD,
Wiz was at center for 2 wins, no?
Maybe there is something to that formula…
December 13th, 2011 at 4:04 pm
Just for a little humor, the Warriors signed the legendary KWAME BROWN!!! LMFAO. Here’s hoping Stern kills the deal. 1 yr $7mil. That will get them to the promised land.
December 13th, 2011 at 4:05 pm
Carson is trying to be a hero when we just need someone to manage the game and hold on to the ball
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Carson’s biggest problem right now.
In his wins, even if he threw an INT, he was still making sound decisions.
When he tries to go out and do it all with his arm, the team suffers.
He needs to manage the game effectively and let er rip when necessary.
He’s really missing Ford and Moore right now. He had an obvious chemistry with those two. Building some with Chaz and DHB but we can all see why those guys are backups based on this last game.
December 13th, 2011 at 4:05 pm
“My post had nothing to do with black or white, dumb azz”
Your post had everything to do with racism and you know it.
December 13th, 2011 at 4:06 pm
joetoronto Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 3:58 pm
Thanks, raiderinparadise.
I knew about yesterday, I was wondering if anybody heard anything about today yet.
******* yeah no practice tuesdays, but I’m sure we can assume they were doing the same thing as yesterday today. tomorrow we will hear Hue say either: limited in practice or hopefully full-practice.
December 13th, 2011 at 4:07 pm
http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/sports/Raiders-Sue-Nations-Over-Raider-Nation-135283343.html
Sully…never speak to anyone but your therapist again.
December 13th, 2011 at 4:07 pm
# Silverandblack666 Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 4:03 pm
“When he is drafted, he will have a very short time to prove he belongs, we often get a very quick hook.”
Like Kordell Stewart who Cower kept on trying to make into a playoff QB year after year.
The so called smear campaign on Newton last year is the same stuff you hear every year about the number 1 pick. It comes with the territory maybe your just thin skinned and you cant take criticism.
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WHAT A DUMB ASS!!!
Kordell was one of the very few who got an extended look, but the reason why is THEY WERE WINNING AND GOING TO THE PLAYOFFS EVERY YEAR!
the very second a black qb loses the hook is in hand and around his neck.
hell even when a black qb wins people want him gone
SEE JASON CAMPBELL
December 13th, 2011 at 4:09 pm
in my mind there is no way we win out last 3 without any of those guys returning and those players have to know that. no doctor would let me stay out of practice these 3 weeks, I would be all-in Sundays …. 70% or not. a 70% moore and Ford beats murhoy and chaz anyday.
December 13th, 2011 at 4:10 pm
L.A. Raider Dave Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 4:01 pm
Thats basically just a tough loss against the champs. We have no explosion on offense now due to injuries. Carson is trying to be a hero when we just need someone to manage the game and hold on to the ball. Hue is learning fast why coaches tend to call more conservative plays and save the big play for when its not expected. The line looked like rookies against Miami and GB and only reinforces the point that we need a high quality center. Sorry blackmamba. got busy with work!
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We already have a good,potentially great, center – Wisnewski. Heyer will be fine at LG. All that’s left to fix on the O-Line is RG & RT. Barnes is OK as the Jumbo TE but that’s it for him. Hopefully, Barksdale can develop quickly into a starter at either RG or RT. I was really hoping the BCampbell was going to develop into the RG and then use Barksdale at RT. BCampbell needs to either be developed or released. So much potential yet so little improvement. He should be Bob Wylie’s #1 personal challenge to make something happen with this guy.
December 13th, 2011 at 4:11 pm
# LA to TheBay Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 4:02 pm
RGIII is awesome.
He does lack some size and I question his durability, but everything else is there.
Unfortunately, HE won’t be there when we pick.
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Durability is a fair criticism, will he go before jones barkley and luck? Will he be gone in the second?
i doubt he will last to round 3 but i could see him in the second and considered the 4th best prospect, all though i strongly disagree
December 13th, 2011 at 4:11 pm
Ryan Leaf was the biggest bust in the NFL until JaMarcus Russell came along.
The Ryan Leaf jokes are endless and no matter what his skin color is he was a failure. When you are a number 1 pick there is a lot of expectations and a ton of criticism that comes along with it. Its not a black and white thing its the expectations of being a top draft pick.
December 13th, 2011 at 4:12 pm
953.Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 4:07 pm
http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/sports/Raiders-Sue-Nations-Over-Raider-Nation-135283343.html
Sully…never speak to anyone but your therapist again.
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Old news from last week. I realize information is a t a premium in China but this burger place has a chain of about 20 stores and frankly, their burgers aren;t that great.
I’d have sued too…
December 13th, 2011 at 4:14 pm
# Silverandblack666 Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 4:11 pm
Ryan Leaf was the biggest bust in the NFL until JaMarcus Russell came along.
The Ryan Leaf jokes are endless and no matter what his skin color is he was a failure. When you are a number 1 pick there is a lot of expectations and a ton of criticism that comes along with it. Its not a black and white thing its the expectations of being a top draft pick.
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what a joke
white qbs arent called scam , no one questions if they are smart enough until they prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that they are like leaf.
You can believe what you want but i think warren moon knows what he is talking about.
December 13th, 2011 at 4:15 pm
im out
December 13th, 2011 at 4:15 pm
# RaiderCROCKSTAR Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 1:40 pm
Dell’s FF league would be a great if he let bloggers like dvrick, sullivan, kell & mistic participate …
Kudos to the pick & choose method. Hopefully BCZ decides to return and maybe ROG gets Jhill’s spot?Uncle,Uncle,Uncle.Go Tebow!!!
December 13th, 2011 at 4:15 pm
Romo’s latest rant – funny but accurate:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eYz_cDUWy8&feature=player_embedded
December 13th, 2011 at 4:16 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
Who let this monkey Dvrick out of the zoo?
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No one. He’s blogging from inside the zoo.
December 13th, 2011 at 4:16 pm
“hell even when a black qb wins people want him gone
SEE JASON CAMPBELL”
Really? so Micheal Vick who plays in Philadelphia (the toughest sports crowd in America they even threw snowballs at Santa Claus) has a fan base that wants him gone?
So the Josh Freeman fans in Tampa want him gone?
You are delusional and you are acting like a victim I seriously doubt that Hue Jackson and Jason Campbell feel this way.
December 13th, 2011 at 4:17 pm
Hey did you know if Palmer keeps up this pace with TDs and INTs for a 16 game season he would have stats like this: 4258 yards 539 att. 302 comps 56% 22 TDs 32 INTs 34 sacks 238 yards 34 rushing att 34 yards
SCARY TO LOOK AT
December 13th, 2011 at 4:17 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 4:11 pm
Ryan Leaf was the biggest bust in the NFL until JaMarcus Russell came along.
The Ryan Leaf jokes are endless and no matter what his skin color is he was a failure. When you are a number 1 pick there is a lot of expectations and a ton of criticism that comes along with it. Its not a black and white thing its the expectations of being a top draft pick.
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Russel is going to make people forget about Leaf.
December 13th, 2011 at 4:18 pm
# LA to TheBay Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
bcz and mistic got it right re: Hue Suck City®
December 13th, 2011 at 4:18 pm
RMR Ricochet Dvrick eyepatch et al at it again. Well, gents enjoy the afternoon. Back 4 the night crew
December 13th, 2011 at 4:19 pm
Their burgers blow like Sully’s mom on fleet week, but damn their pies are tasty…
December 13th, 2011 at 4:19 pm
“but i think warren moon knows what he is talking about.”
Was that before or after he (like Cable) beat up his wife?
December 13th, 2011 at 4:20 pm
# crazy_eyepatch Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 4:16 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
Who let this monkey crazy_eyepatch out of the zoo?
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No one. I’m blogging from inside the zoo.
December 13th, 2011 at 4:20 pm
The problem between Leaf & Russell aka JaLoser, there’s nothing funny about that turd. He hurt the Raiders badly and put them at least 4 years behind schedule. Sad, very sad. That’s all there is to be said about that individual.
December 13th, 2011 at 4:21 pm
Mistic has a valid point.
Very few drop-back pocket passing black QBs. Most are ‘athletic QBs’ and get the criticism for not having the pocket presence.
Likewise, white QBs can scramble, but very few are ‘athletic QBs.’
The league is changing and slower than I thought.
I though Mike Vick was going to change the game a few years back before he got himself locked up.
He had a great season last year and proved he could be a good pocket passer, at least for most of the year.
I think RGIII could be the guy that finally does break the barrier because he is a pocket passer that also happens to be athletic.
Center, QB, P, K still considered positions for white guys and this will ultimately change.
Surprised it hasn’t happened faster for QB.
December 13th, 2011 at 4:21 pm
I hope those of you that go the game Sunday are a little more pumped up by then, Raiders gna need it, they are posting the best season win total in 8 years and all
December 13th, 2011 at 4:22 pm
“Kordell was one of the very few who got an extended look, but the reason why is THEY WERE WINNING AND GOING TO THE PLAYOFFS EVERY YEAR!
the very second a black qb loses the hook is in hand and around his neck.
hell even when a black qb wins people want him gone
SEE JASON CAMPBELL”
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Ummmm — That happens all over the NFL, no matter the QB’s skin color.
SEE MARK SANCHEZ
December 13th, 2011 at 4:26 pm
Defensive Boar Hunters:
Tyvonn Branch
Mike Mitchell (can’t question his effort atleast)
Desmond Bryant
Routt
Curry? ok we will let him be a boar hunter
@Safeway buying bacon:
The rest of the D
December 13th, 2011 at 4:26 pm
I would absolutely love to see HuJack FIRE Bresnahan right now to send a VERY LOUD message that non-performance or inconsistent performance will no longer be accepted. Yes we have problems on offense too but most of them are attributable to injuries. The defense has no leader at DC and it shows. We go nowhere without a defense.
December 13th, 2011 at 4:27 pm
Kim Newton’s detractors were more worried about his off-the-field antics and baggage than with his skin color. It doesn’t take a particular shade to be shady.
December 13th, 2011 at 4:27 pm
“hell even when a black qb wins people want him gone”
There is a white QB named Tebow that is winning and his own VP wants him gone?
Your analogy is flawed and lame.
Didn’t Albert Pujols just sign a 250 million dollar contract…is he white?
December 13th, 2011 at 4:28 pm
Out for now guys. BBL
December 13th, 2011 at 4:29 pm
There is definitely the perception by many that black ppl aren’t smart enough to be qb’s which is absurd. Same time Mistic is making JC out to be better than he was and Carson Palmer worse than he was. I will not defend CP after his pathetic performance Sunday but let’s not forget that his qb rating was in the 40’s versus GB when against the 9ers last year JC posted a qb rating of 10.7
December 13th, 2011 at 4:29 pm
Everyone liked Warren Moon when he played for Houston.
December 13th, 2011 at 4:31 pm
Tyvonn Branch
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see this guy running step for step w/ Jennings all game, amazing. More amazing is why Bres put him in position to ever have to cover Jennings
December 13th, 2011 at 4:31 pm
Lol about the white/black thing.
Its the person, his character and how he carries himself in victory/defeat that fules the media.
Russell slept in meetings, took drugs and went to vegas over team meetings. used excuses and played awful.
Ryan mallet was oneof the best passers in the draft last year ….. had the same issues as russel and fell late to the patriots, he was white.
Sanchez has had a defense and weapons keeping him barely safe.
Vince Young was an idiot off field and couldnt get along with coach and lead a team.
Matt Leinhart is a huge bust and drunk at that.
December 13th, 2011 at 4:31 pm
If Campbell was a better QB, he would be loved also.
December 13th, 2011 at 4:37 pm
Campbell is terrible. Face it. Palmer is a better QB and has the tools but makes awful mistakes on pulling the trigger. Niether is great, but if Palmer had all hands on deck I think the divison lead is 2 games by OAK.
December 13th, 2011 at 4:37 pm
raiderinparadise Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 4:31 pm
Its the person, his character and how he carries himself in victory/defeat that fules the media.
……….
You’re incredibly naive.
December 13th, 2011 at 4:39 pm
50 ugliest haircuts in NBA history:
http://www.complex.com/sports/2011/12/the-50-ugliest-haircuts-in-nba-history
December 13th, 2011 at 4:40 pm
Who cares what color an athlete is if you are a number 1 pick in the NFL you will come under much scrutiny. Much will be written about you both good and bad. There will also be people who will want you to succeed and who want you to fail.
Its called sports!
December 13th, 2011 at 4:41 pm
I think Wiz will serves us better at LG then a center.
December 13th, 2011 at 4:42 pm
Sandusky44 is back to act like he has a wealth of knowledge on the struggles of being a black man in America.
He needs to start a self help group for failed script writers and 40 year old’s who still live with their mother.
Your a pathetic excuse for a human being and you seek affirmation on a BLOG that rejects you on a daily basis.
Just be like a turtle and put your head back in your shell and shut up!
December 13th, 2011 at 4:44 pm
Rule of thumb: Media cares about advertising revenue more than anything. And if you don’t think they’re a) cognitive of the fact that a wholesome, middle American, bible thumping white face attracts more buzz than pretty much any other type of person in our civilization, and b) capitalizing on it at every turn, you clearly think way too highly of American commercial journalists. It’s business. And white draws more fanfare than black. That’s because racism certainly still DOES exist. Are people getting lynched? No. Well, at least not as much as they used to. The police still do it. But at the end of the day, overt, terrorist racism by whites doesn’t exist (and hopefully it doesn’t come back, but this tea party has me wondering…). But fear of black people does still exist, and it’s prevalent. It plays into media and entertainment, and its why so many NFL viewers are more comfortable with Tebow being a heralded hero than a black athlete.
December 13th, 2011 at 4:45 pm
941.L.A. Raider Dave Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 4:01 pm
Thats basically just a tough loss against the champs. We have no explosion on offense now due to injuries. Carson is trying to be a hero when we just need someone to manage the game and hold on to the ball. Hue is learning fast why coaches tend to call more conservative plays and save the big play for when its not expected. The line looked like rookies against Miami and GB and only reinforces the point that we need a high quality center. Sorry blackmamba. got busy with work!
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LOL ..All good bro .. and i agree, especially as a Run first team
December 13th, 2011 at 4:49 pm
“Rule of thumb:”
Sandusky44 will ramble on about anything and still no one listens.
December 13th, 2011 at 4:49 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 4:40 pm
Who cares what color an athlete is if you are a number 1 pick in the NFL you will come under much scrutiny.
………
If you don’t think there’s a significant number of sports fans, especially in the south and midwest, who become giddy at the notion of a white faced sports hero and fearful, suspicious, perhaps even enraged, at the notion of a black sports hero, you’re too naive for this type of discussion. Burying your head in the sand is not going to end racism.
December 13th, 2011 at 4:50 pm
Speaking of knowledge, remember when I asked you what college you went to and you still haven’t answered? Liar. Community college dropout. SilverandBlind666
December 13th, 2011 at 4:54 pm
If you guys didn’t “listen” to me I wouldn’t be this blog’s most hated on commenter. You guys have no defense for my massive truth carpet bombs (thank you Charlie Sheen), and that’s why u hate me.
December 13th, 2011 at 4:54 pm
@ post 993 & Sullivan44
“And white draws more fanfare than black. That’s because racism certainly still DOES exist.”
this sentence and everything above it and under it smells like the doo doo on your finger from probbing your self.
Biggest Shoe contracts ever:
all black athletes or latino
Biggest aports contracts ever:
90% all latino and black atheletes.
(exceptions are futbol players, not US relevant)
Ever watch commercials?:
Starahan, Tuck, Calvin Johnson, Adrian Peterson, Polamalu
Sure couple Clay MAtthews and Manning in there.
The biggest sports brand by association of an athlete in the world?
Jordan brand (why didn;t larry bird get a shoeline?hhahahahha)
The black athelete sells $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Thats the buisness and white people buy that shiz
So you honestly are the naive one.
Horrible post by you.
You got burned.
December 13th, 2011 at 4:54 pm
1000+
December 13th, 2011 at 4:55 pm
” Burying your head in the sand is not going to end racism.”
Sadly, I doubt racism will ever end, people may become color blind but the haves and the have not’s will always create tension in society no matter the skin color.
December 13th, 2011 at 4:57 pm
“Community college dropout.”
Who makes more money in one month than you do annually so think what you want failed script writer.
December 13th, 2011 at 4:57 pm
OMG, just when I thought Raiderinparadise couldn’t get any dumber, he says racism doesn’t exist because black athletes have lucrative shoe contracts…wow.
December 13th, 2011 at 4:59 pm
Oh, now you’re going to tells us you make a lot of money? Where? Let’s see if you have the balls to tell us what company you work for, since you were too scared to lie about what college you went to…knowing you were going to get asked what courses you took, professors you had, etc. You’re a joke.
December 13th, 2011 at 5:00 pm
Huh???
MR says: “And white draws more fanfare than black”
and
“./.so many NFL viewers are more comfortable with Tebow being a heralded hero than a black athlete.”
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Ever heard of Michael Jordon? Skeletons and all, he’s revered still. Tiger Woods was revered by a majority, right up until he imploded. The great Raiders player Bo Jackson transcended color barriers.
If someone’s as good as it gets…or as exciting as it gets (in the last 5 minutes of ball games, anyway)…then they will get attention.
Tebow’s view on religion is the ONLY thing putting him over the edge in terms of getting him more attention. Without its advertisement, he wouldn’t have even lasted this long on Denver’s roster.
That’s another story…but it adds to the fabric of the NFL, just like Kim Newton’s incredible start as a rookie, earlier in the year. Color has nothing to do with either — they made themselves relevent with what they were given. The media (and advertisers) can’t feed us enough.
Both huge stories. America eats it up, and now we can’t hear enough of the Tebow talk. Until he’s old news…and that only happens when he starts to lose regularly. I say he gets injured long before he has a 2-year run of healthy play…this here’s a passing League, son.
December 13th, 2011 at 5:00 pm
And you admit now you’re a JC dropout. Remember when you tried to tell us you were educated? Now you expect us to believe you have money? GTFO, dumbass.
December 13th, 2011 at 5:01 pm
Hayes, you’re right. Racism can’t exist because we allow black people to play pro sports. What was I thinking? Thanks for the insight.
December 13th, 2011 at 5:04 pm
Sullivan44
riiiiiiiiiiiight. When you said its a buisness and white atheletes like Tebow sell.
LoL
your a tool, and think you know everything. when in the end all you do is lie and deny everything around you, and this is in a raider football blog. Im sure you are greatly accepted in society in your daily life (by your stuffed animals)
Go back to rubbing one out to your alex smith fathead on your wall
also shoe contracts and racism have nothing to do with blackk/white son.
its the demographics that the black athelete dominates US sports.
But everyones racist right? Last time I checked people tune-in to watch the balck and latino athletes.
If not there would still be a negro-league right? lol
December 13th, 2011 at 5:04 pm
Hayes, how many sports owners are black? And how many black partners did Al Davis have? Big civil rights pioneer that he was. He wanted black guys to run fast and score touchdowns for him. Had little else use for them. Oh, but he did hire Art Shell as HC, only to scapegoat him for about 10 years of a 25 year losing era.
December 13th, 2011 at 5:06 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 4:57 pm
“Community college dropout.”
Who makes more money in one month than you do annually so think what you want failed script writer.
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So, are you going to answer the man. Or, are you going to run and hide like a little girl.
December 13th, 2011 at 5:06 pm
Even Jerry Buss brought in Magic Johnson and sold him a small share. Al couldn’t kick 1% of his team to Willie Brown or someone? Nope.
December 13th, 2011 at 5:06 pm
Sadly, racism exists all over…in and out of all sports leagues…and all over this blog at times. MR’s ability to bait a good race argument is proof of that. Sadder still.
December 13th, 2011 at 5:07 pm
ROBLOX
December 13th, 2011 at 5:07 pm
Funny how all the “have nots want” to become part of the “haves”.
Think I heard all this banter before during the Chinese Revolution of ‘49.
Pendantic one liners are nothing more than a sign of stolen rhetoric, not a sign of original thought.
Raiders 36
Detroit 7
December 13th, 2011 at 5:08 pm
Your guys’ anecdotal evidence of racism not existing are hilarious. Shoe contracts. lmfao. Anyhow, gotta run. I’ll be back for more laughs later.
December 13th, 2011 at 5:10 pm
There is racism in all sports and it manifest itself in many ways. Falsehoods, ignorance etc. Saying a Black man can’t be an NFL QB is stupid. But as AL Davis said when hiring Art Shell, (paraphrasing) it’s not the hiring but the firing. So its not putting Campbell in, it firing him and putting in someone you think is better. It’s not starting Michael Vick, It relieving him.
Another falsehood, only blacks run fast. Tell that to Olympic 400M Champion Jeremy Wariner.
I laugh at the prejudices of the posters who stand on race. May the best man play regardless of whether he is black, white, asian, hispanic etc. Any position.
Just Win Baby!
December 13th, 2011 at 5:10 pm
Sullivan44 takes the cake for bringing his ‘intellectual ideals’ to a football blog in order to feel like he can compete with common knowledge, only to prove he uses a lot of words and long posts to prove himself wrong by forgetting where he started.
December 13th, 2011 at 5:12 pm
MR troll — Chase your own tail. You can’t even conceptualize my thoughts on racism. Like a few others in here, you casually use it as a tool to stir-up hatred and discord. That makes you as bad as any of those you pretend to hate. Hate loves hate.
Chase your own tail for company, MR.
December 13th, 2011 at 5:18 pm
MR left to go visit his proctologist. He bent over looked up and sneezed and now he is stuck with his head up his A$$.
December 13th, 2011 at 5:19 pm
MR speaks and people logg off…no kidding, dude is a bore.
Wish there was a way to view how many viewers loggoff when he logs in.
Place is a ghost town….
Raiders 36
Detroit 7
December 13th, 2011 at 5:26 pm
Raiders 28…….Detroit 23….
Just win……
December 13th, 2011 at 5:34 pm
If racism didnt exist, we would have about 75% fewer funny ass jokes!
December 13th, 2011 at 5:36 pm
Can someone tell me why it is of anyone’s business where you went to school and how much money you make? Salary is a taboo topic…wow, what world do we live in?
December 13th, 2011 at 5:37 pm
Its time for a Raider Team Intervention……… http://raiderchaos.blogspot.com/2011/12/come-to-jesus.html
December 13th, 2011 at 5:38 pm
Detroi 44 Oakland 13
December 13th, 2011 at 5:39 pm
RaiderChaos, I singed your petition.
December 13th, 2011 at 5:40 pm
Hwnrdr Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 5:36 pm
Can someone tell me why it is of anyone’s business where you went to school and how much money you make? Salary is a taboo topic…wow, what world do we live in?
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I make $180,000 a year.
December 13th, 2011 at 5:47 pm
Chaos, your petition is a joke. Let the guy coach A season before you start calling him out. Its a game dude, we cant win them all and writing this after a couple of loses is a little bit of an over-reaction. I hate to break it to you, but your concern doesnt change the fact that Hue has more riding on every won or lose then you ever will.
December 13th, 2011 at 5:49 pm
His petition is about Bresnehan, not Hue.
December 13th, 2011 at 5:51 pm
“Can someone tell me why it is of anyone’s business where you went to school and how much money you make? Salary is a taboo topic…wow, what world do we live in?”
I know right!
The guy just doesn’t get it….there is o way you divulge any personal information about yourself on a Blog..including where you went to college.
I have seen Sandusky44 drill people on personal issues in here and then come back at a later date to skew that information to make someone look like a fool.
I am not playing that game.
December 13th, 2011 at 5:52 pm
Derek Mason should be signed, he got released by Houston and we sure dont got no receivers.
December 13th, 2011 at 5:54 pm
Sandusky44 is a troll who probably likes to hear himself speak so I would wager that he rambles on and on to himself all day long.
December 13th, 2011 at 5:55 pm
I wouldnt just fire Chucky B without a much better, high calibur, proven replacement lined up. I still think calling for people to be fired with a winning record is pretty short tempered.
December 13th, 2011 at 6:13 pm
877.RaidingTexas Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 2:59 pm
DKnight007 Says:
Of course Huey wants to “build” a bully.
He never said the team “IS” a bully!
It takes time to build a bully fellas.
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Nobody disputes that it takes time to build a bully. The difference in opinions is between those who think it really is heading toward bully, and those who think it is headed toward being bullied.
Maybe I have a bad memory, but I sure don’t remember last season’s Raiders losing 28-0 to a really bad team and being down 34-0 to another really bad team. But I do remember last season’s Raiders winning by multiple TDs in five games.
Regression.
^^^^^^^^
Hmm…I also remember the team having a competent D Coordinator last year who had his guys finishing games when the offense put up over 20 points or more.
I also remember having the teams most explosive offensive play makers in DMC and Ford playing most of the season!
December 13th, 2011 at 6:15 pm
Of course the Raiders are going to have a better DC lined up before giving Chuck B the ax!
Unlike what happened last year when old man Al didn’t even bother trying to keep Marshall.
December 13th, 2011 at 6:21 pm
If racism didnt exist, we would also have 75% crimes
December 13th, 2011 at 6:23 pm
75% fewer crimes *^^^^^^
December 13th, 2011 at 6:41 pm
Code black!! Dont give up guys… if we beat Detroit and tebow loses to Patsy’s. .were back in this.. we just need to take care of our games.. 2 at home and at k.c… I really believe we make the playoffs if we win out!!
December 13th, 2011 at 6:47 pm
Code Cry Uncle.
December 13th, 2011 at 6:50 pm
Code: Black
December 13th, 2011 at 6:55 pm
Man it is so funny to see the correlation when we have a loss bloggers go at each others throats man. We start going off on each other race comes up, fans are throwing F bomb, B Bombs calling each other racist pigs (there are some on here, but not all ha ha). But when we get a win everyone is talking about how great the win was and who did what. Now we just want to meet each other at the corner store and box it out. LMAO!!!
We Raider fans are a crazy @$$ bunch.
I just realized we have been at it all day long. Some of you have been posting non stop since noon.
December 13th, 2011 at 6:59 pm
Would anyone be surprised anymore if Tebow and the Broncos found a way to beat NE? I watch the replays, see the stats and say self it has to be God coming through for the kid.
Never seen anything like it. The Broncos are playing their hearts out for that kid. They love the guy man.
December 13th, 2011 at 7:08 pm
A cowboy walks into a pharmacy and buys 2 boxes of condoms. The clerk asks if he would like a paper sack. The Cowboy says, “Naaaa, she ain’t that ugly!”
December 13th, 2011 at 7:20 pm
I really don’t see the Broncos beating Brady and Belichick.
December 13th, 2011 at 7:40 pm
I AGREE WITH U CJ.LIKE ANY FAMILY,WE DO NOT ALWAYS AGREE.THINK IT JUST PROOVES WE ALL LOVE THIS TEAM..
December 13th, 2011 at 7:47 pm
To me the Grant 47 yd. td run epitomizes everything that’s wrong with the Raiders and where we are deficient
Here’s the backup rb on a simple run off tackle in which our MLB has no clue what he’s doing and then you have the obligatory whiff from Huff and there ya go..td GB.
Seriously. You x’s and o’s guys here know what i’m talking about with McClain. He makes a play every now and then but for the most part he is missing gaps, not getting off blocks, and generally not only is he a non factor, i would go as far as to say he’s a liability.
It sucks to have yet another first rounder go down the tubes, but if you wanna get better you gotta look honestly at your team and face the facts.
I hear some saying Goethel could be the guy? He looked pretty good to me. Seriously…look at the tape and focus on McClain during big running plays.
You can’t afford to just give up td’s and long running (and passing) plays in this league and overcome it. You can’t sit there and say “it happens” when it happens all the time.
McClain is FAR from the answer at MLB and if Raiders are serious about fixing this defense, something has to be done. Otherwise, how much time do you give a guy like this before chalking it up as a loss?
December 13th, 2011 at 7:50 pm
1044. Unless the League deems it for their NEW golden boy
December 13th, 2011 at 7:54 pm
Just started rewatching the game, and man,
the holding call on Veldheer on the screen is a JOKE.
CBS couldn’t even replay it, cause they knew it wasn’t there, but 1 10yd penalty is enough to derail the drive. Barnes is a serious liability too, any time we’ve done something good in the last 2 weeks he gets a flag, it seems.
As for Carson’s first pick,that was HORRIBLE!
He lofted it up into triple coverage, worst part was, he’d beat Mathews and had time to set up and throw, of course, no one was open.
Had to stop b4 the end of the first qtr, to damn upsetting…
December 13th, 2011 at 7:58 pm
DKnight007 Says:
Hmm…I also remember the team having a competent D Coordinator last year who had his guys finishing games when the offense put up over 20 points or more.
I also remember having the teams most explosive offensive play makers in DMC and Ford playing most of the season!
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I also remember the team not heading toward record breaking penalties. I also remember a coach not coming out and saying he didn’t have any answers to the problems.
I also remember a team that didn’t mysteriously sit out a solid veteran receiver for a couple of games, then cut him and bring in an even older washed up receiver who has been ridiculously unproductive.
I also remember the Raiders going 2-1 in games without DMac’s services last season. They scored 66 points in the two wins, and lost by only 8 points in the other game – a wet, sloppy game at Candlestick. The receiving situation was just as crappy last year.
Excuses. Excuses. Excuses.
December 13th, 2011 at 7:59 pm
Our D should benefit greatly from the addition of speed weapons back on O.
At least we HOPE a few of them return. Most valuable? FORD then Moore then Jones.
DMC won’t be back no way no how.
IF we only get Jones back?
Means we’re in danger of conceeding the season.
December 13th, 2011 at 8:00 pm
Heres what no one is saying, starting with that Palmer pick WE GAVE THE GAME TO GREEN BAY. WE BEAT OURSELVES…AGAIN
December 13th, 2011 at 8:08 pm
DMac is not coming back in the regular season. Lisfranc is two months minimum of recovery.
It also means he may never play at the level he once did. Read it on SportsMD.com.
December 13th, 2011 at 8:08 pm
Observations
Once upon a time McSkinnyLegsandAll was drafted.
Infected with injury he has been of no help and elsewise fast guys of offensive potential decided to dog it the same way.
Of upon a time Uncle Al bequeathed a mantle upon Hue.
All was well until Hue refused to bichslap Romac.
Hmmm….
correlaries?…
no more SEC Mcs and its all good
December 13th, 2011 at 8:15 pm
DKnight007 Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 6:13 pm
877.RaidingTexas Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 2:59 pm
DKnight007 Says:
Of course Huey wants to “build” a bully.
He never said the team “IS” a bully!
It takes time to build a bully fellas.
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Hue was handed an 8-8 team with the arrow pointed UP. NOT a 1-15 team with little hope.
Look at what Harbaugh has done and he wasn’t even with the team..or in the league last year. Hue was already here serving a key role as OC.
I don’t accept any excuses for him except for the injuries but even with the injuries you shouldn’t get blown out, humiliated and embarrassed in the two most critical games of the season.
December 13th, 2011 at 8:28 pm
dmac is gonna go to the next obscure team and play pro bowl calibur ball and not get injured
December 13th, 2011 at 8:29 pm
i mean how often was charles woodson hurt as a raider ? like all the time.. dmac will get traded to the buccaneers . and have 3 uninjured seasons
December 13th, 2011 at 8:31 pm
i wonder if hue will cry uncle when amy fires his fathead azz ? but i do like havin him as our coach.. makes mostly good decisions. u guys act like bill cowher never messed up ? oh jon gruden knew everything bout football & talent right ?
December 13th, 2011 at 8:33 pm
and while i have the floor i want to once again say that the raiders need to sign a gatdamn running back. coulda signed sammy morris .. mike bush cant play every play .
December 13th, 2011 at 8:35 pm
and another thing ! injuries are not an excuse . if the packers had lost aaron rodgers ( j campbell) ryan grant ( dmac) greg jennings ( dmoore) and donald driver (j ford ) they would have several losses
December 13th, 2011 at 8:36 pm
noone says injuries are an excuse when ya bring up peyton manning . shaughnessy out for the season ? all our playmakers are gone .
December 13th, 2011 at 8:37 pm
Like rats jumping from a sinking ship.
December 13th, 2011 at 8:38 pm
gerard,
crazy eyes HBaugh will run his course. got no got no but crazy.
Hue Jack City will run its course.
What’ll TBone-ists do when they lose?
It is an insult to deem Jim-Jim a god.
It is an insult to deem HueJack flawless.
It is an insult to deem TBone more Christian than other players on the field.
All Along The Watchtower.
December 13th, 2011 at 8:39 pm
As bad as these last two weeks have been,
i get the feeling Hue will get us to win out…
And any team who loses the amount of starters we’ve lost would be luck to still be in the mix for a postseason spot.
Look at KC…
December 13th, 2011 at 8:41 pm
Sorry I’m just not feeling all the hate for players and coaches.But then I am not a season ticket holder so I guess maybe I don’t understand.
December 13th, 2011 at 8:45 pm
Its about time for Mark Davis and Amy Trask to walk down into the lockerroom to lay it out.
Play or be ousted.
Simple as that.
December 13th, 2011 at 8:46 pm
wut the heck season ticket holder got to do with it ? ya think if we dont pay money to go to games we dont care or get passionate bout the raiders ?
December 13th, 2011 at 8:46 pm
I think we need this guy on the sidelines
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eYz_cDUWy8y
December 13th, 2011 at 8:48 pm
GoodOle00 Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 8:00 pm
Heres what no one is saying, starting with that Palmer pick WE GAVE THE GAME TO GREEN BAY. WE BEAT OURSELVES…AGAIN
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And then Ryan Grant ran through the worst defense in NFL history for a 47 yard TD.
December 13th, 2011 at 8:50 pm
Van. Good post. Hue please let rock get some plays. Ya ya ya I know, but he’s the most explosive back we got. Bush ain’t gettin it done.
December 13th, 2011 at 8:50 pm
I’m thinking Hue needs to drop the coffee out of the irish coffee, just drink the whiskey part…go to work in the morning still drunk wearing a wife beater shirt. Double biatch slap every player and coach and tell them you’re thier daddy.
December 13th, 2011 at 8:54 pm
Dorian,
I am a season ticket holder. We have seen so much this season: Al Davis’ death and Jason Campbell injured. When we added Palmer, the season appeared to be saved. Then McFadden gets hurt before Palmer even plays with him. Things still looked promising when you had Bush, Ford, and Moore light up San Diego. The bottom line is the injuries have hurt us deeply. Add the dumb move by McClain and now you add 2 blowout losses. Tebow and Denver are having a miracle season. We are 1 out and need to win 3 straight games. I think everybody on this blog senses this Sunday will decide our fate. If our defense plays decent and we beat a very strong Detroit offense, there will be very strong feelings about closing this out and getting a playoff berth. Forget about Super Bowl this season, unless McFadden has a miraculous recovery.
December 13th, 2011 at 9:09 pm
Beach, good read. Pretty much sums up 2011. A glimmer of hope still folks.
December 13th, 2011 at 9:10 pm
HUE JACKSON IS IN WAAAAYY OVER HIS HEAD! GOOD COORDINATOR, BUT NOT HEAD COACH. HIS PLAYERS AREN’T LISTENING AND HE IS NOT MOTIVATING THEM. GOOD COACHES DEMAND RESPECT AND THEIR PLAYERS LISTEN AND PLAY HARD.
December 13th, 2011 at 9:13 pm
1071,well said,hope Dmac plays,whatever.Give us DMoore and or Jacoby,and TJones,the boys will match up,period.The defense is SORRY,the leaders need to step up,this is a playoff game,FRIG the WHAT IFs
December 13th, 2011 at 9:17 pm
Hey 1070,Im sure you know Snake used to have a couple of shots before the game,whatever it takes
December 13th, 2011 at 9:26 pm
Hendu, back then the only reason for officiating was to prevent fist fights. lol
December 13th, 2011 at 9:31 pm
GREEN HORNET IS WAYYYY OVER HIS HEAD ATTEMPTING TO TELL ANY COACH HOW TO DO HIS JOB OR ANY HUMAN BEING HOW TO LIVE. – unquote
December 13th, 2011 at 9:31 pm
Hue, there are 1076 posts on here, cry UNCLE!
December 13th, 2011 at 9:36 pm
Hendu, back then the team was out partying til 3 am. But they were a team, this has been lost since arbitration, sadly those days are gone. PC has also claimed football. You missed some good times, Bro!
December 13th, 2011 at 9:42 pm
Raiders For Life, Bingo,as i said,Snake said a couple of shots,I used to run into him and gals at the Black Angus in San Lorenzo,live music,etc I think two shots was a WARMUP,may have kept the bottle,but they won raiders!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 13th, 2011 at 9:46 pm
Hendu, most were still drunk from the night before, and would breeth into the faces of the opponents, on purpose, lmao!
December 13th, 2011 at 9:47 pm
+Breath+
December 13th, 2011 at 9:52 pm
Dang Hendu, I would love to sit down and have a drink with Kenny. I can imagine some of the stories. I will always be a #87 fan though.
December 13th, 2011 at 9:53 pm
860Todd Christensen,got ya,Better Times,IMO Cept for Toys,cell phones,smart phones,gadgets etc Hope the boys SHOW UP and kick the Lions ARSE
December 13th, 2011 at 9:55 pm
Hows the night crew…. Just finished work off home to hit up a dozen and watch the jets replay vs us…get me psyched for the long days i still have to wait till sunday, my monday.
Hey todd !!
December 13th, 2011 at 9:55 pm
12 to 87 won us a lot of ballgames…
Love them Both, Snake’s been sober for years last i heard, good for him, probably live longer.
wish we used our current 87 in the same capacity, Boss can get downfield and is a BIG target for Carson…
December 13th, 2011 at 9:57 pm
That Jet’s game along with the Chicago game shows a team with heart…
I believe we’ll see that heart on Sunday and get back in the Win column…
Just WIN!
December 13th, 2011 at 9:59 pm
McFadden has to heal and be prepared for next season, with the Lisfranc injury. Now Taiwan Jones NEEDS to help out Michael Bush!
December 13th, 2011 at 10:00 pm
so it goes in games like it goes in practice.
practice hard, play hard.
early to bed, early to rise, make a man healthy and wise.
an apple a day keep doctor away.
you are what you eat.
you can tell alot about a man by his garbage.
man with two johnsons have double trouble.
what the hell is going on during the practice week?
80-30 what the sam hell fvck is goin on at practice?
December 13th, 2011 at 10:01 pm
Someone has got to spell Mike and provide a change of pace…get Taiwan the ball in space, and watch out.
Kid is bound to break one, plus he’s come up big on special teams a coupleof times this season.
December 13th, 2011 at 10:02 pm
Unfathomable that these four speedsters are hurt….an with darren out, we would have had ample oppurtunity too see what taiwan can do…lets hope hes close…
December 13th, 2011 at 10:03 pm
I’m like what Myers is doing. Came from PS to the 53. Not exactly Casper though.
December 13th, 2011 at 10:05 pm
No doubt Mamba…this IS crazy to have all 4 of these guys out at the same time.
this has been the strangest most up and down season i can remember…
Just WIN!
December 13th, 2011 at 10:06 pm
Raiders For Life,look for card signings,Snake is around,cant miss him.Check out Rickeys in San Leandro,they will have dates,etc I didnt sit down w/Snake at the bar,however I did with RB King,shortly after the 2nd RAIDER SUPER BOWL,what a RING that was/is,again at Rickeys.Chuckie pops in and out as well,when hes in town.Defense needs to NUT up,period
December 13th, 2011 at 10:10 pm
You can’t do anything about the injuries, but that defense should be ashamed of themselves, and give us 3 good games now in a row!
December 13th, 2011 at 10:10 pm
Hendu:
Kenny King is one of my all time raider faves…
the man was a BEAST every down he was on the field, and the 88? yard reception in the Superbowl was a HUGE play…ahh the greatness of the Raiders.
Absolutely this D needs to NUT UP!
December 13th, 2011 at 10:10 pm
Just as we were turning the corner too bro, but hey thats sport, exctasy and agony, ups and downs.. But while were still a chance then im confident we can do it…
Just win indeed !!
December 13th, 2011 at 10:10 pm
Plunkett to King 80 yards, and you knew the Raiders were going to destroy Vermeil and the Eagles!!!
December 13th, 2011 at 10:11 pm
Thanks Hendu but I’m in Mid Cal. Tom Flores used to own a bar here!
December 13th, 2011 at 10:19 pm
VanHeathen,can you still see him catching the pass from Plunk?GONE,Raiders!!!! I HOPE that all young RAIDER FANS,get to see the greatness of the Raiders SOON.
December 13th, 2011 at 10:19 pm
For the second time in my life I get to watch the Raidas on the television and I was taken aback so far I soiled myself, and I shlt you not. I was heartidly drunk I might add. Down at the corner tavern in Harmonsville. Got an early start at the place considerin it is a dry day but the somehow we got her up and runnin. When the Packers humped us up 30, I started pukin all over the place, then my buddies got me some whiskey and thats when I lost it from behind. Needless to say it took me a couple of days to recover. What the hill happened to my Raidas?
December 13th, 2011 at 10:22 pm
Raiders can destroy Detroit 45-14 and we still would have no idea if they can win out.
Physical, talented mental cases incapable of manning up and playing more than one focused professional game.
THATS the Raider legacy for the last 8 yrs or so…and ****ing counting moind you Govnah…
December 13th, 2011 at 10:23 pm
RFL,coach FLORES can take you from BayFair Bart Station,walk ya over!Also,Raiders.com have info
December 13th, 2011 at 10:28 pm
Hendu:
That had to be the fastest 80 yds of Kings life…
He knew what was at stake…
Just like our boys will know this Sunday is the biggest Sunday yet this season.
Just WIN!
December 13th, 2011 at 10:37 pm
Hendu Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 10:19 pm
VanHeathen,can you still see him catching the pass from Plunk?GONE,Raiders!!!! I HOPE that all young RAIDER FANS,get to see the greatness of the Raiders SOON.
One of the greatest plays! And you’re right…my hat’s off to all of the younger fans that only seen the bad years! They still come back for more and more! That is what separates “US” from the rest!!! Let’s Go Raiders!!!
December 13th, 2011 at 10:40 pm
VH,Looks like we have to pull for NE,smack TB,6 sacks would be great,as long as we take care of our mission,sweep out!
December 13th, 2011 at 10:43 pm
Hwnrdr, RAIDER NATION.
December 13th, 2011 at 10:50 pm
Not a fan of Monte Poole but dude nailed it in his piece…..
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Monte Poole: No defense, no playoffs for Oakland Raiders
By Monte Poole
Bay Area News Group
Posted: 12/12/2011 09:36:41 PM PST
Updated: 12/12/2011 09:59:51 PM PST
The Raiders have one week, maybe two, to discover an ingredient they’ve yet to find over the past three months.
Not just any ingredient, but one essential to their chances of reaching the playoffs.
No defense, no postseason and no rational argument on their behalf.
Coach Hue Jackson concedes his team, which 10 days ago was in prime position for the playoffs, has to approach its final three games in must-win mode.
“Every game from here on in for us is a must-win,” he said Monday, in the wake of successive blowout losses to Miami and Green Bay. “If we want to accomplish our goals, which is winning this division, every game, one game at a time, is a must-win.”
Though the Raiders are not one loss away from mathematical elimination, finishing with a flourish might be the only way to avoid conducting exit interviews as early as Jan. 2.
Those interviews, whenever they come, will and should start with everyone who has anything to do with the defense.
“For the most part, our defensive coaches, they get after it with those guys in trying to put in our game plan and get it done,” Jackson said. “We need to get better, period, everywhere we are on this football team — defensively, offensively and special teams.
“I’m not going to sit up here and hammer the defense. I don’t want to do that.”
Jackson can avoid singling out specific weaknesses because the “eye test” does it for him. The record does it. The
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statistics do it.
Though Oakland’s defense occasionally has made key plays and impressive stops to finish a game, not once this season, even in the best of times, has it been able to strut off the field knowing it belongs in the playoffs.
The unit has allowed more points per game (27.2) than any team in the AFC except winless Indianapolis. Only one unit in the NFL has allowed more first downs, and no team has given away more first downs by penalty. The run defense ranks 29th overall.
Oakland has allowed more than 30 points to five teams, at least one team every month. It has allowed more than 30 points in a half three times — nearly one-fourth of the schedule.
Jackson won’t express disappointment in defensive tackle Richard Seymour, whose diminished effectiveness likely is related to the tender knee that keeps him out of most practices. The coach won’t light into middle linebacker Rolando McClain, whose inadequacies seem to become more glaring with each game.
When your best defensive lineman is off his game, it shows. When the middle linebacker too often gets hung up on blocks or goes the wrong way, it tells.
“We (have to) play better,” Jackson said. “To a man, I think every player would feel that way. Those 11 guys who are starters on our defensive football team need to go out and play as well as they can, because they have.”
Those moments, though, have come in sports, a quarter here, a series there — hardly enough for defensive coordinator Chuck Bresnahan (who was hired by former owner Al Davis) to be invited back.
The only way a defensive unit can be this poor and still reach the postseason is if it is obscured by a strong offense. The Packers and Patriots and, to a lesser degree, the Saints, are winning because their offenses are scoring machines, with MVP-caliber quarterbacks flinging it to fabulous receivers.
We’ve seen Oakland’s offense enough to know that, when healthy, it is capable of offsetting some of the team’s defensive shortcomings. That no longer is the case.
With so many injuries at the skill positions, the “O” has been reduced to a quarterback, Carson Palmer, who arrived 11 weeks after camp opened and does not have the team’s breakaway back or its most dangerous wide receivers.
Without running back Darren McFadden or wideouts Jacoby Ford and Denarius Moore, opposing defenses don’t worry about the big play.
They creep up and shrink the field, unafraid of getting burned. Chicago did it and nearly won at O.co. Miami and Green Bay each did it to rout Oakland.
Suddenly, running back Michael Bush, who was so productive when opponents respected the deep pass, is neutralized. And Palmer, desperate to make plays, is forcing passes to the likes of Darrius Heyward-Bey, whose hands are not reliable and whose speed has little or no effect.
“What you once were,” Jackson said, “you’re not.”
So the losses start coming. And with the roster as it is, why would they stop now?
You can look at Oakland’s offense, realize what’s missing and see it on the sideline.
When you can look at the Raiders defense and see what’s missing, you realize it has been missing all along. Finding it for the final three games requires a miracle.
December 13th, 2011 at 10:50 pm
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d825040d4/article/raiders-doing-what-they-can-to-help-the-bengals-out?module=HP11_hot_topics
this is some hot dish shiit if I ever seen it. you really got to practice bein bad to be this bad. stinks to no end. WTF
what the hell happened to make this team go from cruisin to taken a nose dive? what the hell happened to fck this thing up? so you have some key guys out, well maybe the losses should be a little closer or competetive. where was the back ups in miami? do we really focus on the starting 11 and thats it?
good fkng teams have a good bench. are we that fckng bad we cant get good bench talent? letting haggen go was a big mistake. not now, but from day 1.
this team has to fire on all cylinders, all the time. the only hope is lechler and jano. if not for them, we’d lost a couple of more games and the scores woulda been bigger blow outs.
getting players to play hard requires that the players want to win for the coach. it is up to Hue to find those winners and shlt can the rest.
December 13th, 2011 at 10:55 pm
Fellas,been fun,OUT
December 13th, 2011 at 10:56 pm
mikedlopes Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 8:46 pm
I think we need this guy on the sidelines
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eYz_cDUWy8y
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Please hire Romo’s crazy a$$ like yesterday!
Mark Davis, get this man on the sidelines… sh;t get this man on the FIELD.
Hire him as a motivational speaker if nothing else.
December 13th, 2011 at 11:01 pm
Just post the link
December 13th, 2011 at 11:04 pm
1109.
Closer to 20 guys injured, owner dead, QB out, Starting RB OUT, WRs OUT rookie coach, NEW QB half way thru the season,and STILL in the hunt thats whats happenin’…
December 13th, 2011 at 11:07 pm
In the Raiders we trust:
I’ve bashed everyone there is to bashed, ripped them good including the bulk of the subpar moron dummies who second as “players”, Hue Jack, Chuckie, etc…etc.
However, the real blame runs to the skipper, stank AL, who should have been run out of the league after 1983, last time we won the SuperBowl, once he figured out it was easier to make money winning lawsuits than football games.
The “back to Oakland” years were horrific, as stank AL sunk into dementia, alzheimers, had oozing pus sores on his face, while he was honored and adored for being the “Coach”, “Genius” etc. Maybe such monikers suited Stank at one time, but Stank went way past his time. The one bright moment came under Gruden’s command but AL couldn’t deal with Gruden (and ran him off), and knew positively that he, Stank AL, was the “wonderkind”, infallable, and would live forever.
Now we eat the fruit of what AL planted: a bullsh.t shoveling pimp and snake oil salesman for a coach; a recycled, over-the-hill embarassing DC, and the entire roster on which nary a playmaker can be found, except maybe Ford and Moore. What took 28 years in the making cannot be undone in one or even 2 or even 5 seasons. Hopefully, Amy Trask and Mark Davis will realize that Stanky AL in the last 28 years was non-creative garbage, and to rid the team of Stank’s taint, the Raiders must be completely blown up, and start anew.
In the Raiders we trust.
December 13th, 2011 at 11:10 pm
morilla Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 7:20 pm
I really don’t see the Broncos beating Brady and Belichick.
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I didn’t see Tebow beating us either, Chicago or the others that they pulled out. I can’t believe that Tebow has been this lucky. It certainly isn’t skill. Actually it is their defense playing lights out every game. A 3-4 defense I might mention. If we got half that performance from our defense, what Tebow does wouldn’t make any difference. Our defensive problems start with Chuck Bresnahan and end up with key players like Seymour, McClain, Huff and other playmakers not really making a difference. Much of that under performance is due to injuries. The rest of the problems lie with poor backup players especially in the LB corps.
December 13th, 2011 at 11:21 pm
Monte Poole hit the nail on the head alright.
For once I would like to see the D play well 3 games in a row, cause some turnovers and pick up the Offense….for once…since the O doesn’t have their main play makers and are banged up!
December 13th, 2011 at 11:31 pm
I am a fan of Monte Poole, and this is the truth. Those crying about Palmer are fools.
December 13th, 2011 at 11:34 pm
Can’t have Romanowski cheer-leading on the sidelines as we’d end up with 2X the number of injuries we now have. He’s on his own planet – probably a little brain damaged from excess oxygen he got when using his o2 chamber. He’s is now very humorous in his rants and unfortunately right on point all to often especially when it comes to the defensive side of the house.
I’d actually like to see hue invite him into practice one day with the mission of redirecting Bresnahan’s brain. He needs to get into Bresnahan’s head and scare the living schit out of him. Maybe that would help but probably not. The only real help is to FIRE Bresnahan ASAP and bring in some real 3-4 defensive coordinator. Right now our D is a gigantic liability. The 4-3 D has become far too predictable.
December 13th, 2011 at 11:37 pm
Christianity aside, Tebow is as fierce a competitor as you will find. He has running ability, which is a bonus. After that, he is just Alex Smith. Play conservative, don’t make mistakes, and pray your defense wins the game. The 49ers and Broncos are average teams who are winning with defense. If we had an AVERAGE defense, we wouldn’t be hoping for a miracle right now!
December 13th, 2011 at 11:43 pm
im not saying any one should be fired or cut .but i do remember when gruden was coaching, the guy he had returning punts (i forget his name)was fairly decent yardage wise ,anyway fumbled a punt that might have cost us a game was cut right away ,not benched but cut.next week was next man up
December 13th, 2011 at 11:44 pm
Time to look forward to the lions. we’ll know if moore and ford are ready by wednesday.
serious questions:
with all the injuries and pussification, has the team thrown in the towel?
has chuck b lost the d unit? is he a lame duck d-cordinator?
does Hue have the ability to take off the gloves and rip some ass and bring this team back to life?
is Palmer intelligent enough to overcome the last two games regardless if moore and ford are back?
what the fck is goin on with dhb?
can romac come back, or is he to far gone? did his boner in alabama have more of an adverse effect on the team tan we know of? was MR correct when he proclaimed it doomed the locker room?
wtf?
December 13th, 2011 at 11:45 pm
“You guys have to give McClain some more time. Its only his 2nd season.”
One could make the argument that a linebacker responsible for calling the assignments can’t be expected to be great at it in this, only his second year, but one cannot reasonably make the argument that McClain is quick or fast or strong or in possession of any of the physical traits that one expects from a 1st round pick at that crucial position.
Anyone watching him on tv can see he doesn’t move well to his left or the right, he doesn’t attack the ball carrier even when that player is running straight at him, he can’t shed blocks…in short, I am stunned by his play. He’s not just mediocre; he looks awful, and always has, really. I don’t know if it’s that he is too busy trying to diagnose where a play is going and thus doesn’t actually react or if simply doesn’t have great physicality. It really doesn’t matter. He stinks.
I recall a few scouting reports prior to draft day that made it clear he wasn’t a bruiser sort, but looking back on things, I can’t understand why the wording of those reports were as “soft” as they were.
Can anyone explain how it is that ANY scouts thought he should be either a first or a second round pick? Was he simply hidden in the middle of a great team?
I am at a loss. The only other explanation I have for his performance is that there’s something not right in his head—-mental case??
December 13th, 2011 at 11:47 pm
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December 13th, 2011 at 11:48 pm
imaquaman Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 11:43 pm
im not saying any one should be fired or cut .but i do remember when gruden was coaching, the guy he had returning punts (i forget his name)was fairly decent yardage wise ,anyway fumbled a punt that might have cost us a game was cut right away ,not benched but cut.next week was next man up
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how bout when dick seymor gets a few flags at critical times that wind up eventually costing us precious time and eventual losses. he has to nut up or pack up.
December 13th, 2011 at 11:49 pm
1117. Ricochet drunk. Mask slips.
You choose how you feel. YOU.
Peace
December 13th, 2011 at 11:49 pm
imaquaman Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 11:43 pm
im not saying any one should be fired or cut .but i do remember when gruden was coaching, the guy he had returning punts (i forget his name)was fairly decent yardage wise ,anyway fumbled a punt that might have cost us a game was cut right away ,not benched but cut.next week was next man up
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or a d-cordinator who can’t seem to pull his head out of his ass. he needs to nut up or pack up.
December 13th, 2011 at 11:51 pm
Skid Row Monkey Business
“The freaks come out at nine, and its twenty…ta ten.”
December 13th, 2011 at 11:51 pm
Cork must be fed up with this blog because he just won’t run a new post. how bout a bread crumb? nut up.
December 13th, 2011 at 11:52 pm
Good night, Raider Nation. Here’s to seeing a midday report that at least Ford or Moore/and Taiwan Jones are PRACTICING!
December 13th, 2011 at 11:54 pm
1125. ???
December 13th, 2011 at 11:58 pm
im not saying any one should be fired or cut .but i do remember when gruden was coaching, the guy he had returning punts (i forget his name)was fairly decent yardage wise ,anyway fumbled a punt that might have cost us a game was cut right away ,not benched but cut.next week was next man up
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does anyone remember who that was ?
December 13th, 2011 at 11:59 pm
Aquaman: the guy Gruden cut after the botched Punt return was David Dunn…that was a shrewd way to get his point across…thinkit was the next game that he put Tim Brown back there and Timmy housed one…remember hearing grumbles from the lockerroom after Dunn was released, but EVERYONE knew who was in charge of this team…Chucky
December 14th, 2011 at 12:01 am
im not saying any one should be fired or cut .but i do remember when gruden was coaching, the guy he had returning punts (i forget his name)was fairly decent yardage wise ,anyway fumbled a punt that might have cost us a game was cut right away ,not benched but cut.next week was next man up
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i thought at the time, that was kind of harsh but he did build a winner
December 14th, 2011 at 12:04 am
yea sent a message huh, he was held accountable
December 14th, 2011 at 12:07 am
new post
December 14th, 2011 at 12:09 am
It is way past my bed time, but I just want to say to keep positive and when there is ball left to be played, there is still hope. All Hue has to preach is the will to win is the brightest light that burns in Raiderdom.
Oakland 41
Baked Loins 10
December 14th, 2011 at 12:14 am
UNCLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 14th, 2011 at 1:01 am
2011 Year to Date….Games-13, Solo Tackles-68, Assisted Tackles-15, Total Tackles-83, Sacks-0, Interceptions-3, Passes Defensed-7, Total Tackles Last Four Games-22….
2011 Year to Date….Games-12 Solo Tackles-54, Assisted Tackles-18, Total Tackles-72, Sacks-4.0, Yards Lost-29, Passes Defensed-12, Safety-1, Total Tackles Last Four Games-24….
Daily Quiz for the visual or attentionally dyslexic…I will leave those affected by auditory dyslexia out of this particular quiz…I will make an effort to include those challenged the next time….
Above you will find the relevant statistics for two NFL linebackers…Both were drafted in the first round of the NFL draft….Both were top ten pics in there respective drafts….For those who suffer from visual dyslexia, there is really very little difference statistically between the two cumulative totals….One linebacker has three interceptions and the other none….One linebacker has four sacks and the other has none….For those of you with attentional dyslexia, please reread the above segments of this post REPEATEDLY so it may sink in with your limited retention capacity….I won’t illicit any more clues as you may do your own research….Well, what the heck, one more clue can’t hurt, afterall there are quite a few who suffer from this affliction after reading some of these posts…One linebacker has played for quite awhile….
After you figure this quiz out….How about rooting for another team or STFU, as you are clueless and have zero credibility to go with zero statistical data to reinforce your dyslexic points of view…..AP77….
December 15th, 2011 at 2:13 am
THE RAIDER PREDICTION BOARD
Dedicated to the legacy of Al Davis
Protected by the rally squirrel and Coliseum rodents
2011 Raider Games
First: Ghostraider (exact score) Raiders 23 Broncos 20
Second: Sullivan44 Buffalo 38 Raiders 35
Third: Pretty Rick Raiders 34 Jets 24
Fourth: Sullivan44 Patriots 31 Raiders 14
Fifth: Fingers Raiders 24 Browns 17
Sixth: Zymurge Chiefs 28 Raiders 0 (WTF)
Honorable Mention: LA for PAIN
Seventh: Noone…at all. Broncos 38 Raiders 24
Eighth: La Milicia Negra (exact score (sadly))
Ninth: TheToozFan55 (exact score) Raiders 24 Bolts 17
Tenth: TRIPLE TIE (Exact score) Raiders 27 Vikings 20
R8eray + Just Fire Baby + The Big Banana
Eleventh: Beware of Raiders Raiders 25 Bears 20
Twelfth: Autopalm77 Dolphins 34 Raiders 14
Thirteenth: Sullivan44 Packers 43 Raiders 16
fingers Raiders 28…….Detroit 23….
Gilligan Oakland 41 Baked Loins 10
Lowdown_in_Beijing Raiders 36 Detroit 7
raiderdav Detroit 44 Oakland 13
April 9th, 2012 at 5:45 am
fantazi iç giyim…
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