McClain speaks, Ford and Moore running around
By Steve Corkran
Monday, December 12th, 2011 at 12:42 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Wide receivers Jacoby Ford and Denarius Moore worked out with a team trainer Monday morning, once again seeing if they are far enough along in their rehab from foot injuries to return to practice this week and, perhaps, play against the Detroit Lions.
Ford ran with a nice burst, though he wasn’t seen making any sharp cuts or planting on his injured foot. He said afterward that his foot is getting better but he still isn’t sure if he is going to be able to practice with his teammates this week.
“There’s just certain things out there that we just worked on today,” Ford said. “We wanted to see how my straight ahead running was, just to see if I can actually do that and get up on my toes. That went pretty well today.”
Ford has missed the past four games as a result of the injury he suffered against the San Diego Chargers on Nov. 10. Moore has missed the past three games with an injury he received against the Minnesota Vikings.
It’s to the point where the Raiders need all hands on deck, given they are one game behind the Denver Broncos in the AFC West, with three games to play, and without much margin for error.
Still, Ford said, he won’t play again until he is certain that his foot is sound enough to where he can make a difference at receiver and on kick returns.
“I wouldn’t say I would want to rush back and not be able to be my regular Jacoby Ford out there on the field,” Ford said. “I definitely want to be the same player I was before I got injured. I wouldn’t want to go out there if I don’t feel confident in myself to play to the best of my abilities and hurt the team instead of help the team.”
WIMBLEY SILENT
Outside linebacker Kamerion Wimbley declined comment today, when approached for an interview.
In particular, I sought clarification on why the Raiders were penalized on Wimbley’s fumble return for a touchdown — defensive end Lamarr Houston got called for clipping during the return — even though the return was overturned when the officials ruled that Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers’ arm was moving forward when the ball came out of his right hand.
So, for that, we will turn to coach Hue Jackson, when he has his news conference at 2 p.m.
It seems odd that the penalty still applied, even though it occurred after the incompletion.
SCHILENS FINE
Wide receiver Chaz Schilens confirmed that he left the Packers game early on as a result of his aggravating the foot injury he suffered against the Miami Dolphins the previous game.
Schilens said his foot is “fine” and that he expects to play against the Lions.
“It’s just a little sore, that’s it,” Schilens said. “It will be all right.”
MCCLAIN SPEAKS
Raiders middle linebacker Rolando McClain spoke with the media Monday, despite saying last Thursday that he was “done” giving interviews for the rest of this season and the rest of his career.
Not sure if he changed his tune on his own accord or if the threat of a huge fine by the NFL — players are required to speak with the media — did the trick.
Either way, McClain spoke for more than five minutes on an array of topics. I shall post the entire transcript in a few minutes.
McClain was asked for comment about his role in an incident in Decatur, Ala., almost two weeks ago in which he was
arrested and charged with four misdemeanors, including third-degree assault.
A childhood friend of McClain’s accused McClain of holding a gun to his head, threatening to kill him and then firing the gun next to his ear.
McClain’s lawyer said his client is innocent. Coach Hue Jackson said he is confident, after speaking with McClain, that McClain isn’t guilty of all that he is accused of doing.
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December 12th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
shut up nggaz
December 12th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
1546.Seymour Bush Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 12:28 pm
Carson thinks his arm strength is still there like 05 and its not
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There is nothing wrong with Palmers arm strength. There is plenty wrong with WR’s who can’t catch. And you can throw Kevin Boss in there as well. Palmer made a couple of AWFUL throws yesterday. But Palmer is a guy in the Favre, Cutler, mold where he is a gunslinger. You live and die with that.
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glenny…you are nuts…anyone who knows football can see palmer arm aint as strong as it used to be
December 12th, 2011 at 12:45 pm
December 12th, 2011 at 12:42 pm
glenny…you are nuts…anyone who knows football can see palmer arm aint as strong as it used to be
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I don’t know, Bri, I have been watching Q’s for longer than you have been alive, I have seen all of Palmer’s snaps live, and I can’t tell anything is wrong with his arm strenght. And Neither can Phil Simms who might know a little more about being a Pro Q than you, son.
December 12th, 2011 at 12:47 pm
Baumraiders Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 12:45 pm
Bcz24 Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
1545.baumraiders Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
Yes, no other Defenses can say that, but GB scored on every possession except on the incredible play of MM34.
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Carson Palmer also allowed Ryan Grant his first TD in 2 years. Oh Carson Palmer also allowed Green Bays punter to not see the field. Yep, they did not punt once in that game. Might be a record. Damn Carson Palmer horrible on defense.
Hate to break your hearts but without Carson Palmer this team would be 4-9 and you all would be calling for Hue’s head… oh wait.
YEP Carson is the reason we lost haha (He is one of 22 reasons) , When we lose heartbreakers I spit fire, but yesterday I was more calm than ever. I just went bananas at MARION BARBER and the CHICAGO defense
December 12th, 2011 at 12:47 pm
Palmer’s arm strength is fine. His decision-making has to improve, though. And his WRs need to help him out by catching a ball every now and then. Raider WRs are terrible on 3rd down, and teams are starting to catch on to the fact that all DHB can run are comeback routes. He got abused by Woodson on that slant.
December 12th, 2011 at 12:47 pm
Todd Haley is gone. Hue Jackson and Bresnahan should be next.
December 12th, 2011 at 12:47 pm
Baumraiders Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
Carson Palmer also allowed Ryan Grant his first TD in 2 years.
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Thank you. Ryan Grant had not had a run over 10 FREAKING YARDS ALL SEASON, and his lST PLAY, he goes 55 TO THE HOUSE!! Sorry, 2nd play. the lst play resulted in a Raider penalty.
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GB didnt have a 20 yd run ALL YEAR!!! 1st run 47 yards LOL
December 12th, 2011 at 12:48 pm
about time cockran
December 12th, 2011 at 12:48 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 12:30 pm
“i told you who he was he is the best player in college football.
shut up bra you dont know”
You do realize that you picked a guy that the entire college football nation also picked. He won the Heisman Trophy that means he is the best college football player this year….you do realize that the entire world knows this and could see this and you are somehow taking claim that you are so insightful that you saw him as a great college football player.
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umm but i said it when he was a freshman, you didnt even know who he was!!
December 12th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
Palmer was trying to make something happen out there yesterday. If there was a problem with Palmer it was with his decision making, not his arm strength.
December 12th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
I don’t want to hear the McClain interview I want to know why he cant tackle and is he working on that right now?
December 12th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
todd haley getting whacked is funny…
Bresh wont be let go until the end of the year…
He will be the reason Jackson blames if we dont make it…
Political Protection…
December 12th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
GB didnt have a 20 yd run ALL YEAR!!! 1st run 47 yards LOL
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Where is the waiver wire?? McClain, Mitchell, looking at you here…..
December 12th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
Does mcclain still have a bad wheel?
December 12th, 2011 at 12:51 pm
Still, Ford said, he won’t play again until he is certain that his foot is sound enough to where he can make a difference at receiver and on kick returns.
“I wouldn’t say I would want to rush back and not be able to be my regular Jacoby Ford out there on the field,” Ford said. “I definitely want to be the same player I was before I got injured. I wouldn’t want to go out there if I don’t feel confident in myself to play to the best of my abilities and hurt the team instead of help the team.”
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what a btch ngga this is
December 12th, 2011 at 12:51 pm
My wish list:
Reggie McKenzie as GM
Jack Del Rio or Steve Spagnuolo as DC
Trade Darren McFadden for a 2nd and 3rd
Trade Richard Seymour for a 3rd
Trade Rolando McClain for a 4th
Trade Tommy Kelly for a 5th
This will give the Raiders considerable salary cap relief (if I’m not mistaken, it would clear about $20 million from the books for 2012). They should restructure Huff if they haven’t already. Then they need to re-sign Branch, Reece, Bryant, Heyer, and make a competitive offer to Michael Bush.
2 – DT Dontari Poe
3 – CB Leonard Johnson
3 – RB David Wilson
3 (comp.) – OT Xavier Nixon
4 – RB Cyrus Gray
4 (comp.) DE Jake Bequette
5 – WR BJ Cunningham
5 – S Harrison Smith
6 – LB Chris Galippo
Then go big in FA. Need some big-time playmakers, and one in particular would help the Raiders seal the edge against the run AND pressure the QB with their four-man front. Mario Williams would have a Julius Peppers-like impact on this defense. So:
Sign DE Mario Williams
Sign MLB Barrett Ruud
December 12th, 2011 at 12:51 pm
Don’t tell me anything about cutlers teams his offense in Chicago is ridiculously bad. Their receivers are worse than ours and they have one of the worst o lines ever assembled but Cutler makes it work because as much as I hate to say it he is a very good qb just outside the door to elite. Carson is not elite he isn’t even very good he just may be a good qb and I don’t even know about that. I wish he would just manage a game like Campbell did
December 12th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
when your offense gives up turnovers constantly the defense thinks “WHY BOTHER ?” No point in trying hard on defense when your offense gives the ball right back to the other TEAM !
December 12th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
3.Seymour Bush Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 12:45 pm
December 12th, 2011 at 12:42 pm
glenny…you are nuts…anyone who knows football can see palmer arm aint as strong as it used to be
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I don’t know, Bri, I have been watching Q’s for longer than you have been alive, I have seen all of Palmer’s snaps live, and I can’t tell anything is wrong with his arm strenght. And Neither can Phil Simms who might know a little more about being a Pro Q than you, son.
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yeah well my friend we talking palmer and i seen his entire career from usc on…and that fast ball isnt as fast…still has a good arm but dont tel me he has the same zip on it….and fk phil simms…and spare me the son stuff
December 12th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
# Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 12:45 pm
as of now palmer is ranked 30th in the leauge.
he has 3 games with 3 picks or more, and in one game tied the amount of picks jc had in six.
in six 1/2 games he has more picks than jc threw for the entire season of 2010!!!
he is 10-18 with a horrendous 34 turnovers in his last 23 starts!!
You guys still think he is an “instant upgrade” or “elite”
how?
December 12th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
Still, Ford said, he won’t play again until he is certain that his foot is sound enough to where he can make a difference at receiver and on kick returns.
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If he has his straight line speed we need him in the game…
Its all hands on deck time….Put him in and run go routes every play… He is bound to be open 50% of the time, and would gas the DB covering him…
The weopons gotta play this week…
December 12th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
Don’t tell me anything about cutlers teams his offense in Chicago is ridiculously bad. Their receivers are worse than ours and they have one of the worst o lines ever assembled but Cutler makes it work because as much as I hate to say it he is a very good qb just outside the door to elite. Carson is not elite he isn’t even very good he just may be a good qb and I don’t even know about that. I wish he would just manage a game like Campbell did
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Very good point !
December 12th, 2011 at 12:54 pm
You guys still think he is an “instant upgrade” or “elite”
how?
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We have watched both Campbell and Palmer play.
December 12th, 2011 at 12:55 pm
McClain may not be guilty of everything he’s being charged with, but he’s sure guilty of being a bad linebacker.
December 12th, 2011 at 12:55 pm
17.18yearsold18yearfan Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 12:51 pm
Don’t tell me anything about cutlers teams his offense in Chicago is ridiculously bad. Their receivers are worse than ours and they have one of the worst o lines ever assembled but Cutler makes it work because as much as I hate to say it he is a very good qb just outside the door to elite. Carson is not elite he isn’t even very good he just may be a good qb and I don’t even know about that. I wish he would just manage a game like Campbell did
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good to see ya young fella…how goes it?
December 12th, 2011 at 12:55 pm
Chuck B needs to go, wish it would happen now but probably won’t happen til after the season. New LB and WR coaches needed as well. New strength and conditioning guy a must. As for now, even if the guys aren’t 100% they need to give it a go or they won’t be playing in a meaninful game after next weeks game.
December 12th, 2011 at 12:55 pm
oops messed up the win loss totals, but its bad
December 12th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
Palmer can throw 5 picks a game (almost has ) and people on this blog will still say he is ELITE . Thats how I know yall are dumfcks !
December 12th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
“umm but i said it when he was a freshman, you didnt even know who he was!!”
And for that I am guessing you want some kind of prize?
How about we find his agent and see if you can give him a naked man massage or an enema and let you keep the bag of feces when your done would that make you happy?
December 12th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
Jesus Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
Don’t tell me anything about cutlers teams his offense in Chicago is ridiculously bad.
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Dude, you said Favre and Cutler won. The reason Cutler won was because he has a world class defense. We don’t. Did you watch the game yesterday?
December 12th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
yo
December 12th, 2011 at 12:57 pm
Now I KNOW they fudge the time stamp posted on here. NO WAY Steve posted this last night and people kept posting over 1500 times on the last one! LIARS! lol!
December 12th, 2011 at 12:58 pm
wimbly silent? just like his game yesterday
December 12th, 2011 at 12:58 pm
24.crister Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 12:55 pm
McClain may not be guilty of everything he’s being charged with, but he’s sure guilty of being a bad linebacker.
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hahahahah true
December 12th, 2011 at 12:58 pm
Everybody wants to fire Hue. We need to give a coach time; not just one year. How many coaches have we had the past 10 years. Breshnehan yes, Hue no. The last time we had 2 ugly losses, we won 3 straight. Hopefully the same thing can happen again. We do need a real defensive coordinator BAAAAAD!!!
December 12th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
Must still be back eat or sumpin…
December 12th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
35. No one with a brain wants to fire Hue. Amzing job given the circumstance
December 12th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
Detroit scored 34 yesterday. Half that amount can beat the Raiders. Psycho Suh will be back too. Not liking the matchups so far. If the Raiders came out flat yesterday after getting owned by the Fins then what about next Sunday? They couldn’t even get up for the Packers. Hue says the mindset is fine. I think Hue is out of touch. Way more issues than just injured players. Way more…
December 12th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
Penalties and mistakes … Missed tackles .. Missed assignments …Saw a lot of that yesterday….. You could spread the blame around a lot…. It wasn’t any one person that lost that game…. I’m doubting the desire of the Team…. They sure as hell don’t act like a team that wants to make the playoffs…and if they did manage to back into the playoffs the team I’ve seen the last few weeks would be 1 and out…. I’d rather they not make it than get there and not care….
December 12th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
25, Easy there Sandusky… lay off the 18 yr old
December 12th, 2011 at 1:01 pm
i dont think i have ever seen a qb look so frightened as palmer has looked over the last two weeks.
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LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Raider Nation has.
December 12th, 2011 at 1:02 pm
@YoungAmerican
No Cortalnd Finnegan on the wish list?
December 12th, 2011 at 1:02 pm
Dude, you said Favre and Cutler won. The reason Cutler won was because he has a world class defense. We don’t. Did you watch the game yesterday?
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Yeah and if Palmer was the QB they would have gotten blown out because he would have thrown 2 pick sixs and the defense would not have mattered….
December 12th, 2011 at 1:02 pm
GoodOle00 Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 12:57 pm
Now I KNOW they fudge the time stamp posted on here. NO WAY Steve posted this last night and people kept posting over 1500 times on the last one! LIARS! lol!
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Time stamped is a mess just like our Defense…
WTF are we getting for the money????
Who is the play maker on the Defense????
December 12th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
McClain speaks: “Not sure if he changed his tune on his own accord or if the threat of a huge fine by the NFL — players are required to speak with the media — did the trick.”
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I assumed it was Steves posts about being bu-tt hurt
December 12th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
Brien just living this college life I got stuck with about 5 9er fans as roommates though my raiders have put me through so much sht talking but I still rep my team all day everyday win or lose
December 12th, 2011 at 1:04 pm
Trade McClain, DMC, DHB and Seymour (all packaged together) for a 1st RD pick!!!
December 12th, 2011 at 1:04 pm
Carson Palmer is like 14-19 in career dec and jan games…..yuck!
December 12th, 2011 at 1:04 pm
Trade coach Bresh for J Del Rio
December 12th, 2011 at 1:04 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 12:51 pm
Still, Ford said, he won’t play again until he is certain that his foot is sound enough to where he can make a difference at receiver and on kick returns.
“I wouldn’t say I would want to rush back and not be able to be my regular Jacoby Ford out there on the field,” Ford said. “I definitely want to be the same player I was before I got injured. I wouldn’t want to go out there if I don’t feel confident in myself to play to the best of my abilities and hurt the team instead of help the team.”
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what a btch ngga this is
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Fasho.
Jacoby making a business decision with 3 games left?
Punk.
December 12th, 2011 at 1:05 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 1:01 pm
i dont think i have ever seen a qb look so frightened as palmer has looked over the last two weeks.
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I have seen that look in our DCO…
December 12th, 2011 at 1:05 pm
Thec, nobody is gonna want B!!!!
December 12th, 2011 at 1:06 pm
everyone wants to blame romac for grants td, but romac cant cover two gaps at once. there were two gaping holes and romac chose one because grant faked in the direction. who on the second level was responsible for the other hole and where where they?
December 12th, 2011 at 1:06 pm
Fasho.
Jacoby making a business decision with 3 games left?
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Is it really up to him, or staff?
December 12th, 2011 at 1:06 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 1:02 pm
@YoungAmerican
No Cortalnd Finnegan on the wish list?
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Could be nice, but the front seven should be the priority as age and depth are both huge issues.
I’d love the Raider front seven to be:
Williams – Poe – Houston – Shaughnessy/Bryant
Curry – Ruud – Wimbley
December 12th, 2011 at 1:06 pm
Jackson rubbed off on Ford…sounds like!
December 12th, 2011 at 1:06 pm
GoodOle00 Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
35. No one with a brain wants to fire Hue. Amzing job given the circumstance
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HUH??? Did you guys watch the last two games?? lst off, our team did not even show up. For either game. And if that is not bad enough, Miami got absolutely rolled yesterday by a mediocre Philly team. That makes things even worse. If Richard Seymour does not make a game saving tackle on Sanchez on the last play of the jet game, and Huff doesn’t pick Schaub, this team could easily end 5-11 or worse. And that is coming off last year into this one with momentum.
December 12th, 2011 at 1:07 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 1:06 pm
everyone wants to blame romac for grants td, but romac cant cover two gaps at once. there were two gaping holes and romac chose one because grant faked in the direction. who on the second level was responsible for the other hole and where where they?
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Huff needed to shut it down as soon as McClain picked the wrong hole.
Huff ended up looking stupid.
December 12th, 2011 at 1:08 pm
I’m usually not negative, my wife and kids are even complaining!
I’m sick….sick to my stomach!
Tebow this….Tebow that!!
I HATE THAT MOTHER EFFER MORE THAN ANYTHING RIGHT NOW!!!
At the end….I just want to win!
That’s it!
December 12th, 2011 at 1:08 pm
r8eray Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 1:05 pm
Thec, nobody is gonna want B!!!!
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Of course, thats why why we trade him for Del Rio which means Del rio becomes DCO, and bresh becomes unemployed….
December 12th, 2011 at 1:09 pm
Who is Huff?
December 12th, 2011 at 1:09 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 1:06 pm
everyone wants to blame romac for grants td, but romac cant cover two gaps at once. there were two gaping holes and romac chose one because grant faked in the direction. who on the second level was responsible for the other hole and where where they?
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MCClain ALWAYS makes the wrong gap read. You would think just out of sheer luck he would hit it once in awhile. Guys in the 2nd level should not have to continually make stops. That has been the problem here the last 6 years. BTW, it was Mitchell who took himself out of the play as well.
December 12th, 2011 at 1:09 pm
Raiders fans are some of the most bi polar dumb fans ever. Before the season 75% of you were expecting is to win at the most 7 games many were predicting 4 or 5 wins and were but hurt that cable wasn’t the coach anymore. You were talking about how easy our schedule was last year and how we would be lucky to win that many games with our much harder schedule this year. But when hue got this team playing good you switched your expectations so much higher that you now want to fire hue it makes no sense
December 12th, 2011 at 1:10 pm
4 lowest QB ratings in the NFL:
Rex Grossman 71.8
Carson Palmer 70.8
Curtis Painter 66.6
Blaine Gabbert 65.3
ELITE ?!?!?!?
December 12th, 2011 at 1:10 pm
I think the one thing someone in here pointed out that REALLY speaks to the problems is this, there is no one field leader. Carson may be that guy next year, but he is still trying to find his way in the Silver and Black, and poor decision making aside, he isn’t getting much help. Our receivers dropped more balls than were intercepted yesterday. Guys you would expect to be leaders just aren’t. DMAC, sure he is probably the most explosive RB in the game, also the most injury prone. Bush will always just be DMACs backup. McClain… he is just a criminal. Seymour gets tuned out when he leads the league in personal fouls and ejections.
Tebow wins because there are 53 guys on the Bronco roster that will give everything they have for him. Carson doesn’t have that and neither did Campbell for that matter. If JC had a bad game the team would fold up just as fast as they do for Carson.
You can blame Hue all you want, but this is still the house Al built. Al was always more concerned with raw athletic ability than any of the intangibles REAL winners bring to the table. This team ALWAYS folds under even the smallest amount of adversity. Its just a collection of over-paid athletes. Not a team.
December 12th, 2011 at 1:11 pm
I would orgasm in my pants….if we were to get Del Rio as a D coach!
December 12th, 2011 at 1:11 pm
Anyone else tired of seeing our safeties and line backers running with wide receivers? We get outmatched every game.
December 12th, 2011 at 1:11 pm
Palmer has nobody to throw to….NOBODY!
December 12th, 2011 at 1:13 pm
nwr8r Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 1:11 pm
Anyone else tired of seeing our safeties and line backers running with wide receivers? We get outmatched every game.
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The ineptness of the D is staggering…
We have given up 80 pts in 2 games…
December 12th, 2011 at 1:13 pm
Palmer is NOT elite. NOT ELITE
December 12th, 2011 at 1:14 pm
For the last 3 years, people in Houston were screaming fire Gary Kubiak. Now look at them. They got a D-coordinator and now he can just do the offense. Last year, Hue just ran the offense and look what happened. Now he has to constantly look over Breshnehan’s shoulders and try to fix the run defense. We rank 26 in total defense,29 in rushing defense, and 28 in points allowed. People talk about Tebow, but look at what his defense is doing. If your defense played like that we would be alot better, and have more possesions for the offense
December 12th, 2011 at 1:14 pm
I seen alot of zone coverages, no man to man and weak blitzing!
December 12th, 2011 at 1:14 pm
nwr8r Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 1:11 pm
Anyone else tired of seeing our safeties and line backers running with wide receivers? We get outmatched every game.
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Yes. I thought this would end when Al wasn’t running the defense anymore. Bres just does the same thing but blitzes more. NO OTHER DEFENSE in the league, and certainly not any elite defenses, leaves safeties and linebackers in man-to-man situations against WRs as much as the Raiders do.
December 12th, 2011 at 1:16 pm
57.Seymour Bush Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 1:06 pm
GoodOle00 Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
35. No one with a brain wants to fire Hue. Amzing job given the circumstance
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HUH??? Did you guys watch the last two games?? lst off, our team did not even show up. For either game. And if that is not bad enough, Miami got absolutely rolled yesterday by a mediocre Philly team. That makes things even worse. If Richard Seymour does not make a game saving tackle on Sanchez on the last play of the jet game, and Huff doesn’t pick Schaub, this team could easily end 5-11 or worse. And that is coming off last year into this one with momentum.
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Rookie HC + Dead owner (not just any owner mind you THE man who built the team AND alot of the League) Starting QB OUT. League leading rusher OUT. Moore, Ford, Jones OUT and 13 or so other injuries and thats all on Hue right?
Pffft!
December 12th, 2011 at 1:16 pm
Guys you would expect to be leaders just aren’t.
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One thing none of you have said is how Palmer was just getting beaten to sh** back there yesterday and he stood there the entire game and took it and played. That IS called leadership. Somehow I just don’t see Jason doing that.
December 12th, 2011 at 1:16 pm
I agree Palmer is not playing well, but he has the ability to play better. Who would any of you want instead? You can bash Palmer all you want, but honestly, who would you rather have at QB right now given the circumstances?
December 12th, 2011 at 1:16 pm
next years draft and FA we go all in to fix the D…
we start by getting rid of the DCO…
December 12th, 2011 at 1:16 pm
I never liked Palmer I wondered why he got the Brett Favre treatment the last few years when nothing he did wrong was his fault but when we traded for him I tried to give him the benefit of the doubt but he’s not good. The only upside is with him we only gave up one 1st round pick and not two
December 12th, 2011 at 1:17 pm
Bresnahan needs to go for sure…. Our defense isn’t just bad…. It’s embarressing …can’t stop the run… Can’t stop the pass… Our team speed looks slow…the Tackeling issue drives me up the wall .. Our team can’t Fk’n tackle…. Not real pleased with the offense… But my biggest issues are with the defense…our front 4 looked like dancing Bears yesterday and on Miami…
Better sweep these last 3 games…and they better show some desire to win… Tackle ..and get them to the turf..
December 12th, 2011 at 1:17 pm
We are missing our top 3 weapons on offense. I try so hard to root for DHB, but he makes it so difficult
December 12th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
FIRE CHUCK B!
December 12th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
73. It ain’t ole man Al f’ing up the D anymore is it?
Oakland gets KILLED in zone coverage. Same for Nnamdi. NOT what they were built or trained for.
MORE MAN, less ZONE till next yr maybe…Bresh is ****
December 12th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
Palmer’s second interception was a pass to Heyward-Bey, of which Palmer said, “I tried to throw a slant in there; a little miscommunication between myself and the receiver.”
SO NOW HE IS THROWING dhb under the bus for his own crappy passes?!?!?!
OH NO BUNGLES FINGER POINTING AND GOING DOWN IN FLAMES!!!
That was an awful throw, he starred down the play and woodson knew what was coming, wilt chamberlin couldnt have boxed out woodson on the terrible pass!!
Crapson checking out early, why am i not surprised?
December 12th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
Rookie HC + Dead owner (not just any owner mind you THE man who built the team AND alot of the League) Starting QB OUT. League leading rusher OUT. Moore, Ford, Jones OUT and 13 or so other injuries and thats all on Hue right?
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This is the NFL. Every team has injuries. Some of the great stories in sports are when guys go out, other no name guys come in and play even better. Our team no one showed up. You have to put that on the coach. Even with Cable we were never out of a game in 25 minutes like we have the last two weeks.
December 12th, 2011 at 1:20 pm
Maybe we can get a 3-4 coordinator. If Goethel comes back that gives us 4 linebackers and Wimbley can play the linebacker, rush the passer end.
Ryan Grant; WTF!!!!!! C’Mon Man!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 12th, 2011 at 1:20 pm
why all the Palmer posts? this is insane – the guy gets under center, looks left, looks right and sees two guys that don’t make half the rosters in the NFL, let alone START
and when he turns around the guy behind him is a back-up plodder
injuries at key positions have derailed this season – though it is not over….a 10-6 Raiders team may just end up in the playoffs – it is very possible
further – our run defense remains horrible….as I’ve previously posted, we have never been as stout against the run as we were when Matt Millen was in the middle -a long time ago
so this fixation on Plamer is misguided
and one last thing – if Jason Campbell slides feet first versus Cle, we win the next two games, vs KC and Den, and would at least have some cushion to await the return of our playmakers
peace
December 12th, 2011 at 1:21 pm
And of course every time something good happens to the Raiders, fumble pick it up and run it back for 6 – the refs throw flags. Zebras sux – complete and utter horse pucky.
Again, the ‘tuck’ rule. complete and utter horse pucky.
December 12th, 2011 at 1:21 pm
SO NOW HE IS THROWING dhb under the bus for his own crappy passes?!?!?!
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No, throwing him under the bus would be saying “Darrius got abused by CWood, who basically ran the slant route for him.” Which is what happened.
CP was at fault for the first pick of the game, as well as the end zone pick. Both terrible decisions, forcing the ball into an impossible situation.
December 12th, 2011 at 1:22 pm
Palmers made some bad decisions for sure…. Personally , I need to give him somemore time….six games just isn’t enough time for me to judge the trade or how much he has left….I’ve seen him make some throws that show me his arms still strong… It’s his decision making I question so far….same with Hue… He’s made some head bonehead decision but I gotta give him the rest of this year and next to come to a conclusion ….IMO …
December 12th, 2011 at 1:24 pm
This is the NFL. Every team has injuries. Some of the great stories in sports are when guys go out, other no name guys come in and play even better. Our team no one showed up. You have to put that on the coach. Even with Cable we were never out of a game in 25 minutes like we have the last two weeks.
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Im calling BULLSH!T there buddy. Cable lead us to plenty of stinkers in his tenure, and Cable NEVER had to play against a team the calibur of what GB is right now. At our BEST we would have lost by 20 yesterday. Thats not on the ROOKIE HC thats on the GM that built the team. We can’t afford quality depth because we have half our salary cap tied up on 4 defense underachievers. These ‘diamond in the rough’ guys that we find in the later rounds every year, they ARE THE QUALITY DEPTH for other NFL teams.
December 12th, 2011 at 1:25 pm
We can’t afford quality depth because we have half our salary cap tied up on 4 defense underachievers
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Cant argue that ….
December 12th, 2011 at 1:25 pm
I do believe Hue Jackson has to much on his plate…he needs help for sure
December 12th, 2011 at 1:26 pm
No speed on a team built on speed
http://www.raidernationstation.com/2011_regular_season
December 12th, 2011 at 1:26 pm
Code Black, Code Black, Code Black. Lol.
December 12th, 2011 at 1:27 pm
and one last thing – if Jason Campbell slides feet first versus Cle, we win the next two games, vs KC and Den, and would at least have some cushion to await the return of our playmakers
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Moot point however, cant argue it…
December 12th, 2011 at 1:27 pm
breaking news dmc has a little knick from his beanie….
December 12th, 2011 at 1:27 pm
U can tell who knows whats what by what they say: “Hue sucks!”
Clueless.
“Palmer sucks!”
Clueless.
December 12th, 2011 at 1:28 pm
Code Black, Eat Crow, Code Black!!!!!
December 12th, 2011 at 1:28 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 1:28 pm
Code Black, Eat Crow, Code Black!!!!!
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Good thing crows are already black.
December 12th, 2011 at 1:28 pm
Funny that Peymour Bish answers to Glen even though he says he isn’t a cross posting troll.
haha
December 12th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
I’m for giving Hue at least another year…. This hasn’t been a normal year for us… I’m giving him the benefit of doubt…we need a real GM… A real defensive minded D coach
December 12th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
95. Excellent usage Thec.
So many people butcher the language. MUTE point or CHOMP at the bit or Long ROAD to hoe
Uuuugh. Decline of Western civilization started with cuts to education.
what are we like 17th in the world now?
December 12th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
Carson Palmer is like 14-19 in career dec and jan games…..yuck!
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Dam, that’s almost Romo-esque.
December 12th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
KK Munster, you woke up from your nap all full of piss & vinegar! Now go back to sleep and then sweep up the barbershop.
December 12th, 2011 at 1:31 pm
So many people butcher the language. MUTE point or CHOMP at the bit or Long ROAD to hoe
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Mute Point….ROFLMAO… I have to admit, I do have a lot of typo’s however, that is funny as hell….
December 12th, 2011 at 1:31 pm
Hue deserves another year but I agree, he could use a GM. especially b4 the draft.
MIKE MAYOCK!!!
December 12th, 2011 at 1:31 pm
Peymour you have been watching and evaluating Qb’s since before B@uce was born and yet you still jumped out the window with this one?
“Anybody with half a brain can see JaMarcus is franchise Qb”
Solid!
haha
December 12th, 2011 at 1:31 pm
14 turnovers in 6 1/2 games doesnt suck??!? on what planet
December 12th, 2011 at 1:32 pm
man the chefs handle losing coaches bye bye haley but hue?
December 12th, 2011 at 1:32 pm
105. Typos different than butchering the Language. I’m no Rhodes scholar clearly but man, at least gotta try!
December 12th, 2011 at 1:33 pm
I a agree with #16 on the players we need to get rid of. Hate to say it but we need to try and get some decent draft pics for dmac, he can not stay healthy. Along with the players #16 would get rid of, I would get rid of glass Schillens, Giordano, Boyd, and Huff. Huff is over paid and does nothing. Need new line backer coach and WR coach and new DC. I do not think Chuck B should be allowed to finish the season. Bring in Jack Del Rio this week.
December 12th, 2011 at 1:33 pm
Reggie McKenzie, or Ozzie Newhouse for GM.
Vote no on AJ Smith which is the rumor down hear in SD.
December 12th, 2011 at 1:33 pm
Ugh…gettin trolly in here Mista…
Out till the night crew comeas on. Lates true Raiders!~
December 12th, 2011 at 1:34 pm
99.Raiderbuck Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 1:28 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 1:28 pm
Code Black, Eat Crow, Code Black!!!!!
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Good thing crows are already black.
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Buck…that same idiot said in a post….”for whatever it is worth…code black”….he was jumping on but because it was adminstered by me he has a problem
December 12th, 2011 at 1:34 pm
Todd Haley given the boot…. They didn’t waste anytime… I thought it was coming , but after the year…. Not a big fan of his anyway
December 12th, 2011 at 1:34 pm
LTR
December 12th, 2011 at 1:34 pm
112.Thec07 Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 1:33 pm
Reggie McKenzie, or Ozzie Newhouse for GM.
Vote no on AJ Smith which is the rumor down hear in SD.
Oh hell no…
December 12th, 2011 at 1:35 pm
KC could have waited to boot Haley in 4 weeks so that was a jab to the chops.
haha
December 12th, 2011 at 1:36 pm
Reggie Mckenzie would be my pick….
December 12th, 2011 at 1:36 pm
This freakin team needs to sack up and win out no playoffs…simple.
I can’t believe the D allowed Grant to go off yesterday? Ro Mac can’t close two gaps at once people.
The D went to back to it’s old ugly lazy habits again.
I would like to see the Raiders hire Mike Nolan or Steve Spagnolo as the DC next year.
Spagnolo would be a great hire and he would be working with Mike Waufle again. Both won a Super Bowl with the Giants when their D stepped it up to stop the unbeaten Pats!
December 12th, 2011 at 1:37 pm
Mista… Agree… It was a little kick in the A$$ on the way out the door
December 12th, 2011 at 1:37 pm
JohnnyRaider Says:
I a agree with #16 on the players we need to get rid of. Hate to say it but we need to try and get some decent draft pics for dmac, he can not stay healthy. Along with the players #16 would get rid of, I would get rid of glass Schillens, Giordano, Boyd, and Huff. Huff is over paid and does nothing. Need new line backer coach and WR coach and new DC. I do not think Chuck B should be allowed to finish the season. Bring in Jack Del Rio this week.
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Yeah, a harsh reality about DMac is settling in on Raider Nation now. You can’t have the centerpiece of your offense miss so many games. Time to Hershel Walker his azz. So long, Darren. We like the promise of you, not the reality of you.
As for Del Rio, only if you bring him in as head coach.
December 12th, 2011 at 1:38 pm
103.RaidingTexas Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
Carson Palmer is like 14-19 in career dec and jan games…..yuck!
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Dam, that’s almost Romo-esque.
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Yeah man….people calling him elite is a joke….he can be good as lng as he dont gotta pass hella much…just lick jc he needs the run game and cant carry a team anymore
December 12th, 2011 at 1:40 pm
Yep…. Our Def was embarrassing yesterday….and last week..
December 12th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
I don’t expect to see McFadden play again this season…
December 12th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
1593.raiderinparadise Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 12:51 pm
CorkOnTheNFL Steve Corkran
#Raiders need to win final three games AND have the Broncos lose two of final three games OR lose to the Kansas City Chiefs to make playoffs
1 minute ago
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We already know this Cork!
December 12th, 2011 at 1:43 pm
Only way we get rid of DMC is IF some team offers their 1st Rounder and 3rd Rounder in return in this upcoming draft.
No team will offer that much, since he is hurt.
December 12th, 2011 at 1:44 pm
120.DKnight007 Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 1:36 pm
This freakin team needs to sack up and win out no playoffs…simple.
I can’t believe the D allowed Grant to go off yesterday? Ro Mac can’t close two gaps at once people.
The D went to back to it’s old ugly lazy habits again.
I would like to see the Raiders hire Mike Nolan or Steve Spagnolo as the DC next year. Here is hoping Spags is fired from the Lambs.
Spagnolo would be a great hire and he would be working with Mike Waufle again. Both won a Super Bowl with the Giants when their D stepped it up to stop the unbeaten Pats!
December 12th, 2011 at 1:46 pm
I’d trade Bres for a Half Shrimp Po-Boy and Cup of Gumbo. Although this deal has to go through real quick before the owner at Food N Spirits gets in and realizes that his current dish washer would run circles around Bres.
December 12th, 2011 at 2:00 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 1:38 pm
103.RaidingTexas Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
Carson Palmer is like 14-19 in career dec and jan games…..yuck!
YOU SHOULD ALSO PROBABLY CHECK THE BENGALS DEC AND JAN RECORD OVER THE PAST 20 YEARS!!!!
December 12th, 2011 at 2:03 pm
I dont really get all the hate against Carson Palmer. I guess its one of those things where the QB takes all the blame for the loss.
he is six games into the season, playing with back up wr’s and a rookie head coach …and yet some of you are comparing his stats and saying he is not an elite QB.
Heres the truth, if we switch Aaron Rodgers with Carson Palmer for yesterday’s game…There is no change in the outcome, and the same people bashing CP would be tearing apart Rodgers. Watching the game yesterday showed one thing, that there organization as a whole is ran alot better then the raiders…they have better players, betters coaches all around and the believe….
that being sad, i never expected Hue to turn this thing around in a year…Rome wasent built in a day, and either were the Green Bay Packers
December 12th, 2011 at 2:04 pm
Tony Sparano just got fired. Hopefully Nolan goes to and comes to Oakland
December 12th, 2011 at 2:13 pm
No heart on this team. Nobody wants to play injured with 3 games left to fight for a playoff spot? Weak league nowaddays
December 12th, 2011 at 2:45 pm
Its entertaining to watch all these armchair GM’s on this blog.If you are that football savy why arent you calling shots for a team somewhere.We were out played yesterday across the board there’s enuff blame for everybody to go around.In my opinion arm strength isnt the issue this Carson Palmer dude never checks down or hrows the ball away to fight another down but you wanna knock JC for not taking all those stupid chances.Carson isnt Manning,Brees,Farve,Rivers,Rodgers,or Cutler @ that matter he just throws the damm ball to keep from getting hit and the wr’s had a terrible lack of concentration yesterday.The defense didnt look ready to play from the first time they took the field they looked lost with the offsides and just being out of position.Since Al passed away we’ve turned into a low budget wanna be Blitzburgh and we suck @ it blitzing every damm down Breshnan or however you spell his name cant adapt worth a f#@k.We are what we are a predominantly man to man D that gets pressure from our front 4,but since our leader passed you wanna try n get cute with all this zone/blitz anti Raider football.We are built bigger stronger faster impose our will on the opposition,beat the man across the ball from you down after down until you have taken his will.Thats the Raiders way,the “Real Raiders Way”!!!!
December 12th, 2011 at 4:12 pm
Get the “F” out of here KRAWFDADD; I’ll make any comment I want without being employed in the NFL: most importantly, “go suck yourself and swallow!” Your analysis stinks; the best thing that happened to the Raiders since 1983 is that Stinky AL died, and I hope you do too, and soon.
December 12th, 2011 at 4:18 pm
Lol I called no names and Al DIk3ater Davis responds,you arent a real Raider fan,go root for Tebow or the Chargers or SanFran.,Lmbao he hopes I die,strip naked and go play with yourself in 5 o clock traffic