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By Jon Becker
Monday, December 12th, 2011 at 5:00 pm in Oakland Raiders.
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December 12th, 2011 at 5:00 pm
Who cares?
December 12th, 2011 at 5:00 pm
At least Becker didn’t give us the “same Bat Time, same Bat Channel” bullsh;t.
December 12th, 2011 at 5:01 pm
lol LA
December 12th, 2011 at 5:01 pm
I’m out.
3 games left.
Quit bein’ a$$holes, Nation.
December 12th, 2011 at 5:02 pm
Detroit 38 Raiders 17
December 12th, 2011 at 5:02 pm
Hue is not going anywhere, anyone with a brain can see that but he is approaching Cable territory (8-8) and he will ride Palmer all the way next year.
You can bet that come September Hue will be selling us on how Palmer is ready for prime time after a camp with his healthy WR’s…..
December 12th, 2011 at 5:03 pm
4.LA to TheBay Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 5:01 pm
I’m out.
3 games left.
Quit bein’ a$$holes, Nation.
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Watch yo back homie…me and the homies looking for mark ass busters like you
December 12th, 2011 at 5:04 pm
Raider Nation-Station
By compare…Lets say Bob Kraft died. Tom Brady breaks a collar bone and OUT. WR Wes Welker with a Lisfranc and hes OUT. WR DeIon Branch OUT, RDE Andre Carter, shoulder injury OUT. CB Devin McCourty OUT. Head Coach whats his cheating face replaced by a ROOKIE.
You think the Patriots would still have a shot at the play offs?
RAIDER NATION…
December 12th, 2011 at 5:04 pm
70. Dude, we have a serious troll infestation. Mostly its one psychopath under many, many names but he reveals himself over and over.
Just ignore the negative, ridiculous and enjoy the REAL discussions. Raiders, political, basketball or what ever.
Honestly, this is the best, nost active NFL blog ANYWHERE.
Iggy the creepy losers trolling for abuse. *shudder*
December 12th, 2011 at 5:07 pm
jmmclain – don’t confuse us true fans with the numerous pos trolls that frequent this site. Just take a look at the list of prdicted scores for yesterdays game. (65 of them picked the raiders to win, including me…
You also have to agree that we are allowed a certain degree of frustration with the way things are going right now. The season is on the line.
December 12th, 2011 at 5:07 pm
What no one has said is this: Sorry Darren McFadden. Sorry you got injured. That sucks!!!
You were on your way to one of the best seasons any Raider RB has ever had.
Just get better and have a long healthy productive career.
And uh, win us a Super Bowl while you’re at it yeah?
December 12th, 2011 at 5:08 pm
8. I can’t think of any other team that could have done with a rookie HC what Oakland has done. Impossible.
December 12th, 2011 at 5:09 pm
nnamdi lol
December 12th, 2011 at 5:13 pm
McFadden will lead us to the promise land next year with whoever is the QB
December 12th, 2011 at 5:14 pm
Raiders got 3 games left to step it up and they will. Hue takes off the gloves. Palmer doesn’t like being a goat. He’ll get better. Moore will be back. Denver will implode.
Raiders 35
Roit 21
December 12th, 2011 at 5:16 pm
While Tebow wins games for denver if they are close enough to catch, its denvers D that is winning the games. Their D will do a face plant and Raiders will climb back to 1st place.
December 12th, 2011 at 5:19 pm
While Tebow wins games for denver if they are close enough to catch, its denvers D that is winning the games. Their D will do a face plant and Raiders will climb back to 1st place.
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Sorry man you must really be high…
Broncos 12 Patriotas 10 … They will be 11-5 , Jesus can’t lose buddy …
December 12th, 2011 at 5:22 pm
Here are records of some of the best coaches to ever do it in their first season as head coach.
2-14 Bill Walsh
5-11 Bill Belichick
3-12-1 Bill Parcells
5-7-2 Hank Stram
3-6 Mike Ditka
1-15 Jimmy Johnson
7-6 Hue Jackson
In Hue I trust.
December 12th, 2011 at 5:28 pm
Raider 510 wake up little guy Hue was handed an 8-8 team.
December 12th, 2011 at 5:29 pm
That shouldn’t require any further explanation.
December 12th, 2011 at 5:30 pm
MistaBrown Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:47 pm
According to Seymour Bush Glenn – R Seymour has been a stud all season long.
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Pro football Focus listed Seymour as mid season All Pro. His team has him as a captain and NFL people have raved about his play until very recently since he has been hurt. So, we can either believe you, or NFL people and others than make their living dealing with the NFL. Since you are a known Grade A imbecile, I have to go with the latter.
December 12th, 2011 at 5:31 pm
Raider 510 wake up little guy Hue was handed an 8-8 team.
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Good point SB ! He was given a decent team , all those coaches had doo doo to start with …
December 12th, 2011 at 5:31 pm
The idea of McFadden having permanent damage to his foot is quite unsettling. Man this seasons has more up and downs than any I can remember. I guess the only consistent thing is the defense is not good. So much promise in those early games only to dissolve into mediocrity or worse.
December 12th, 2011 at 5:31 pm
we’re gonna finish 10 and 6 so wipe your tears and powder your vagin@
December 12th, 2011 at 5:33 pm
@Seymour Bush
So who are the puds on our D? No saying it is Seymour, but who in your opinion needs to go?
December 12th, 2011 at 5:34 pm
For all of you three team parlay types out there…
LATimesfarmer RJ Bell of pregame.com: If you started with $100, and let it ride on Denver to win each of the 6 games you now would have won $38,450.
about 19 hours ago
December 12th, 2011 at 5:34 pm
we’re gonna finish 10 and 6 so wipe your tears and powder your vagin@
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We aint beating Det and SD . Maybe KC since they are screwed…
December 12th, 2011 at 5:35 pm
Why do we torture ourselves every week by watching this horrible sitcom called the Raiders? I really wish I could break free. I think I might take a week or two off and make them earn me back.
December 12th, 2011 at 5:36 pm
Nnamdi Num Nums, stop your whining and moaning.
So sorry you and your hurt feelings get smacked around this blog like a racketball.
If you weren’t such a spineless homer, maybe I’d take it easy on you.
On second thought, probably not.
PLAYAS GETTING HIGH ON DOOBIE MOE DEE 4 REALZ
December 12th, 2011 at 5:36 pm
Let me get the chat topics going:
McFadden’s vaginitis in the ankle
Palmer’s awful picks
Hue’s over-confidence and loss of team momentum
NFL record for penalties in the works
Defense is worst against the run in the NFL at 32
December 12th, 2011 at 5:36 pm
They should show Ryan Grant running that 47 yard run and McClain half chasing him on “Come on Man”
December 12th, 2011 at 5:37 pm
“Inonewordraider Says:
we’re gonna finish 10 and 6 so wipe your tears and powder your vagin@”
And that might not be good enough to make the playoffs
December 12th, 2011 at 5:37 pm
Inonewordraider Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 5:31 pm
we’re gonna finish 10 and 6 so wipe your tears and powder your vagin@
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Done
December 12th, 2011 at 5:37 pm
Romo is right football is about blocking and tackling. The Raiders are too damn dumb to play smart, let alone compete.
December 12th, 2011 at 5:38 pm
I swear to God if I see another Raiders defender making a big to-do and peacocking around after a simple tackle–after they’ve already let the other team take over the game–I just might smash the television. Hue needs to make that rule number one: stop celebrating when you haven’t done sh*t.
December 12th, 2011 at 5:39 pm
“McFadden’s vaginitis in the ankle
Palmer’s awful picks
Hue’s over-confidence and loss of team momentum
NFL record for penalties in the works
Defense is worst against the run in the NFL at 32″
Jacoby Fords lackadaisical attitude about playing on Sunday.
December 12th, 2011 at 5:39 pm
We don’t have one player with close to the stones of a Romanowski. We need a GM that demands smart tough play on the field. The Raiders are effed with this current HC and roster.
December 12th, 2011 at 5:39 pm
I wonder if DMac has a full season in him, it doesn’t appear that the guy’s feet can take the beating an NFL running back endures.
Rather pathetic that he keeps missing games due to his feet, how embarrassing that must be in the locker room.
Team mates asking you constantly “hows the foot”?
December 12th, 2011 at 5:40 pm
19.Silverandblack666 Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 5:28 pm
Raider 510 wake up little guy Hue was handed an 8-8 team.
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So, what are you saying?
December 12th, 2011 at 5:40 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 5:33 pm
@Seymour Bush
So who are the puds on our D? No saying it is Seymour, but who in your opinion needs to go?
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Really Mitchell and McClain have to go. Go find the Ryan Grant run on NFL.com and you will see exactly what I am talking about. And they do that 60 snaps a game. Wimbley is not a run stopping OLB, and since Shaughnessy has gone out, we have been getting further and further into trouble. There has been a carousel trying to fill that DE spot. The 2ndary has played surprisingly well tho.
December 12th, 2011 at 5:42 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 5:40 pm
The 2ndary has played surprisingly well tho.
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I beg to differ.
December 12th, 2011 at 5:43 pm
“Romo is right football is about blocking and tackling.”
Basic fundamentals so true and the well coached teams in the league do this better!
December 12th, 2011 at 5:43 pm
The 2ndary has played surprisingly well tho.
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I agree with the other stuff you said, Seymour, but I’d have to disagree with the above. I think the secondary is abysmal. Branch is the only one playing reasonably well.
December 12th, 2011 at 5:43 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 5:39 pm
“McFadden’s vaginitis in the ankle
Palmer’s awful picks
Hue’s over-confidence and loss of team momentum
NFL record for penalties in the works
Defense is worst against the run in the NFL at 32″
Jacoby Fords lackadaisical attitude about playing on Sunday.
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hahahhaha yeah the Texans Guard played the game with a broken leg to get the win in the 4th to clinch a playoff spot.
while ford, moore, taiwan and mcfadden …. watch back to back blowouts and seemingly dont care to go against doctors and puch themselves to see th efield to help.
Ford would rather wear his airmax nikes and shoot the shiz with Pryor in the sidelines.
December 12th, 2011 at 5:46 pm
“So, what are you saying?”
That we have enough talent on this team that even a bumbling idiot like Cable could get us to 8-8
Hue Jackson is supposed to be better than Cable and should have got us at least 2 more wins.
THAT is WHAT i am SAYING!
December 12th, 2011 at 5:46 pm
Ford seems like a gamer to me. He appears to love the challenge—USUALLY comes up big in the clutch, etc. so I’d be surprised if he didn’t come back as soon as possible. DMAC also seems to love the game, so I’m guessing he’s simply too fragile. I don’t know about the other guys. I do know the Raiders can’t afford any missing pieces because, clearly, they aren’t very good.
December 12th, 2011 at 5:46 pm
365.baumraiders Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 4:08 pm
The problem for the raiders now is that most of the money is now being spent on the defense. It is incredible that you have Huff, Kelly, Wimbley, Routt, Seymour, McLain, Johnson, Curry making a ton of money and they don’t play up to the salaries.
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The main problem is we have a chitty D coordinator leading them also! Ugh
Get Steve Spagnolo in here as the new DC after the season and have him work his magic with Waufle again!
December 12th, 2011 at 5:47 pm
That we have enough talent on this team that even a bumbling idiot like Cable could get us to 8-8
Hue Jackson is supposed to be better than Cable and should have got us at least 2 more wins.
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Gospel.
December 12th, 2011 at 5:48 pm
Some of you morons do realize that our explosive main play makers on offense are OUT!!!!!!
December 12th, 2011 at 5:48 pm
I wonder how Rothlesburger became such a tough person. How does he man-up each and every year to play on bad feet.
DMac needs to figure out his secrets.
December 12th, 2011 at 5:49 pm
48.kidseven Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 5:47 pm
That we have enough talent on this team that even a bumbling idiot like Cable could get us to 8-8
Hue Jackson is supposed to be better than Cable and should have got us at least 2 more wins.
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Gospel.
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Yeah, but Chuck B is not better than John Marshall and he isn’t even better than 90% of the DC’s in this league come to think of it!
December 12th, 2011 at 5:50 pm
50.Whats a Drexl? Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 5:48 pm
I wonder how Rothlesburger became such a tough person. How does he man-up each and every year to play on bad feet.
DMac needs to figure out his secrets.
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Comparing a QB to a RB??
Another dumb thing said on this blog!
December 12th, 2011 at 5:50 pm
As I stated in past since we lost McFadden Hue should have been introducing a faster shiftier running back to compliment Bush. Bush is a workhorse and very much needed in the backfield but there is nothing like a quick strike in the ground game. GB had not had a ground game like that in a while but when the line open up the back bolted through for a TD. While running Bush for past few games Bush should have gotten plays to throw the ball to keep the defense from teeing off on him.
December 12th, 2011 at 5:50 pm
“Ford would rather wear his airmax nikes and shoot the shiz with Pryor in the sidelines.”
Don’t get me started about today’s athlete…all this money is watering down the game. You couldn’t pull a guy out of a game in the 60’s 70’s and 80’s but today’s player taps out often.
December 12th, 2011 at 5:52 pm
I wonder how Rothlesburger became such a tough person. How does he man-up each and every year to play on bad feet.
DMac needs to figure out his secrets.
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Start RAPING ?
December 12th, 2011 at 5:54 pm
JMcClain, our defense is underperforming. How is that hate? That is fact. Seymour has done nothing all season! We’ve had no defense to speak of for 9 seasons! Do you think this team is doing well?
December 12th, 2011 at 5:54 pm
Jesus (if that is your real name),
You must be smoking crack if you think we can’t beat the Chargers! Dude, we beat them twice last year and once already this year. WE DOMINATE THEM! We play them mean and they fold up like cheap lawn chairs. The chargers are scared to death of the Raiders, you should know this since you post in this blog. The chargers don’t want to play us. Are you by chance MR or whatever the last worn out moniker you used was?
9-7 here we come (unless we can play a little harder vs. Detroit) we need Moore back BAD!
December 12th, 2011 at 5:55 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 5:46 pm
“So, what are you saying?”
That we have enough talent on this team that even a bumbling idiot like Cable could get us to 8-8
Hue Jackson is supposed to be better than Cable and should have got us at least 2 more wins.
THAT is WHAT i am SAYING!
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You are exactly right. If not for a couple of really lucky game saving plays, this season could have ended 4-12. And probably should have. I always preach improvement, and if anyone can see ANY improvement over the last four weeks I would like to know about it. Lastly with all the injuries, other guys are supposed to step up. Someone mentioned the Patriots and Brady. If anyone remembers, Bledsoe got injured and the Patriots had to turn everything over to some 6th round scrub named Tom Brady.
December 12th, 2011 at 5:55 pm
47 DKnight Im also hoping for Spagnuolo.
December 12th, 2011 at 5:57 pm
Hello everyone, I know everyone’s mad at me…but I guarantee a victory on Sunday!
December 12th, 2011 at 5:58 pm
RaiderJhawk ,
I want them to win , I live in SD and hate the super chokers. But as the season is going I just know we won’t win because Hue Jack is a dum@ss !
December 12th, 2011 at 5:58 pm
In fact Spagnuolo was the 2nd team that ran the most man to man defense in the league.
December 12th, 2011 at 5:59 pm
Oops, I meant Spags with the giants
December 12th, 2011 at 5:59 pm
51.DKnight007 Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 5:49 pm
48.kidseven Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 5:47 pm
That we have enough talent on this team that even a bumbling idiot like Cable could get us to 8-8
Hue Jackson is supposed to be better than Cable and should have got us at least 2 more wins.
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Gospel.
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Yeah, but Chuck B is not better than John Marshall and he isn’t even better than 90% of the DC’s in this league come to think of it!
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I don’t know why I bother argueing with the fools on this blog DKnight. Cable gave Hue an 8-8 team, but these are the same people that we’re saying Hue was the reason the team was 8-8 last year. Now Hue is working without the best player on the team, two of its playmakers missing at wr, a tougher schedule, and a brand new quarterback but his season is supposed to be judged the exact same way as last season….right…
thank God organizations don’t listen to fans, most of them anyways.
December 12th, 2011 at 5:59 pm
Jesus is on Crack Cocaine.
December 12th, 2011 at 6:00 pm
Let me make sure i have this down. last year we beat san diego and the queefs without dmac and moore wasnt on the team. Ford had a very limited role in the charger game as well, but we won those games.
Why then does palmer need these guys to win?
December 12th, 2011 at 6:00 pm
Whats a Drexl? Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 5:42 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 5:40 pm
The 2ndary has played surprisingly well tho.
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I beg to differ.
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You can beg to differ all you want but the Raiders secondary has one of the lowest completion percentages against, and a very low yards per completion. The pass defense has been decent. The run defense atrocious. Again. As usual.
December 12th, 2011 at 6:00 pm
That we have enough talent on this team that even a bumbling idiot like Cable could get us to 8-8
Hue Jackson is supposed to be better than Cable and should have got us at least 2 more wins.
THAT is WHAT i am SAYING!
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Wrong… Remember Hue called the plays for Cable. Also, Cable had less injury problems.
December 12th, 2011 at 6:01 pm
58.Seymour Bush Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 5:55 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 5:46 pm
“So, what are you saying?”
That we have enough talent on this team that even a bumbling idiot like Cable could get us to 8-8
Hue Jackson is supposed to be better than Cable and should have got us at least 2 more wins.
THAT is WHAT i am SAYING!
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You are exactly right. If not for a couple of really lucky game saving plays, this season could have ended 4-12. And probably should have. I always preach improvement, and if anyone can see ANY improvement over the last four weeks I would like to know about it. Lastly with all the injuries, other guys are supposed to step up. Someone mentioned the Patriots and Brady. If anyone remembers, Bledsoe got injured and the Patriots had to turn everything over to some 6th round scrub named Tom Brady.
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Meaning every quarterback that steps in for the injured starter must raise the standards and play to the level of one of the best quarterbacks to ever play the game….right…keep em comin.
December 12th, 2011 at 6:04 pm
Mistic, you are confused. We beat the Chiefs and Chargers both times each without DMAC? huh, I guess I missed that considering that I watch every Raiders game with my Sunday ticket and haven’t missed a game in 5 years. And Ford had a limited Role in the Offense? Huh, so that pass that he ripped out of Flowers hands that was on all the highlight reels didn’t happen? I guess we must have watched different Raiders teams last year…
December 12th, 2011 at 6:04 pm
Did anyone else see Mike Mitchell’s tweet? Something along the lines of…. (You can add Jermichael Finley to the list of tight ends that I’ve shut down, no catches and I took the ball away from him for a int. in the end zone) what a piece of $hit, dude talks so much trash even when they get beaten down! Good to see we have some great team players.
December 12th, 2011 at 6:05 pm
What got us to 8-8 was Hue’s playcalling and Marshall’s D. Al let Cable keep the HC title to be nice.
December 12th, 2011 at 6:07 pm
Wrong… Remember Hue called the plays for Cable. Also, Cable had less injury problems.
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Cable also took over a team in complete absolute utter disarray. Cable took over A team that had not had more than 5 wins in a season in 9 years. Cable was saddled with a complete rookie set of WR’s and Jabustus. The team Jackson took over was used to winning games and had MUCH BETTER personnel. Injuries are an excuse.
December 12th, 2011 at 6:07 pm
Palmer needs some reliable WR’s, Chaz, Housh, DHB and Murphy ain’t those guys. Sorry, that’s why we need Ford and Moore.
Most teams do need their starting WR’s to compete against other teams. You start throwing scrub WR’s in the mix and it’s a recipe for disaster.
December 12th, 2011 at 6:08 pm
Meaning every quarterback that steps in for the injured starter must raise the standards and play to the level of one of the best quarterbacks to ever play the game….right…keep em comin.
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No. Meaning that when your turn comes to play due to injuries, it is your turn to play. Some guys rise up. Some don’t. Ours don’t.
December 12th, 2011 at 6:09 pm
73.Seymour Bush Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 6:07 pm
Wrong… Remember Hue called the plays for Cable. Also, Cable had less injury problems.
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Cable also took over a team in complete absolute utter disarray. Cable took over A team that had not had more than 5 wins in a season in 9 years. Cable was saddled with a complete rookie set of WR’s and Jabustus. The team Jackson took over was used to winning games and had MUCH BETTER personnel. Injuries are an excuse.
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Used to winning, you must mean the “We’re not losers anymore” quote. Injuries are a reality. And if all of this you’re talking about is somehow implying that you wish we had Cable back as HC, then damn I’m thru with you bro.
December 12th, 2011 at 6:12 pm
Folks….DMAC has averaged NINE carries a game and dropping every week. The guy was hurt in camp…the guy gets hurt a lot. Not because he is not tough…but because he has a foot injury and that is a place that is hard to heal 100%. Ask Chaz. His absence is NO EXCUSE for this mess.
So is DHB a bust? Our number 1 receiver has been playing the entire time and you all treat that like its bullsh&t. The m’fn starter!
Jacoby Ford has been out MOST of the year so he wasn’t a factor much. Denarious Moore? Sure he is a key target, but this team should have had the horses with Louis Murphy, Schilens and DHB to be able to get by.
December 12th, 2011 at 6:12 pm
# raiderjhawk Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 6:04 pm
Mistic, you are confused. We beat the Chiefs and Chargers both times each without DMAC? huh, I guess I missed that considering that I watch every Raiders game with my Sunday ticket and haven’t missed a game in 5 years. And Ford had a limited Role in the Offense? Huh, so that pass that he ripped out of Flowers hands that was on all the highlight reels didn’t happen? I guess we must have watched different Raiders teams last year…
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not so fast, i said ford had a limited role in the charger game, not the queefs game.
moore wasnt on the team.
dmac missed on game each vs kc and san diego
we won those games
why does palmer NEED all these guys to win?
December 12th, 2011 at 6:14 pm
see all he had to say was dmc out for the year instead of this bs about maybe next week…fords turn…hey dumbazz dont you realize that some people play hurt? grow some stones!
December 12th, 2011 at 6:15 pm
Injuries are a reality.
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That’s the point. Injuries are a reality for EVERY TEAM. No team does not have injuries. The Dischargers have lost a ton of their offensive linemen, Gates didn’t play the lst 7 games, Bob Sanders was supposed to be their SS he didn’t get to Game 3, and they are in the hunt making a move. You are making excuses for next year.
December 12th, 2011 at 6:15 pm
Mystic,your 24/7 whining about our starting QB isn’t going to do anything.He will still be the starting QB the rest of this year and beyond.Everyone knows you hate the fact he replaced the QB you have a man crush on and you hate him because he doesn’t fit your criteria.But you should let it go.Nothing you say will change things and your repetitive BS makes you look very narrow minded.It also makes it look like you care more about JC being the QB than you care about the team-that is if you really do care about the team at all.You used to preach fans should support the uniform,yet you are doing the exact opposite now.Support the team or STFU.
December 12th, 2011 at 6:15 pm
Cable also took over a team in complete absolute utter disarray. Cable took over A team that had not had more than 5 wins in a season in 9 years. Cable was saddled with a complete rookie set of WR’s and Jabustus. The team Jackson took over was used to winning games and had MUCH BETTER personnel. Injuries are an excuse.
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Cable had Campbell when he went 8-8. Also, if you think injuries are just excuses go talk to the Bears, Minnesota, etc…
December 12th, 2011 at 6:16 pm
And this is for you Madden Gamers who ignored the need for a real STOUT defense.
Now do you understand? You have a raggedy defense that can’t stop the run which means they can’t get off the field…..time consuming punishing drives.
Your money guys have let you down:
Seymour, Wimbley, Kelly and Routt. Only 1 truly difference making game all year among the lot of them…and that was Wimbley’s multi-sack/pressure performance against an injury riddled San Diego defense.
Had the players with bloated contracts each stepped it up in just 1 more game, this is a different situation….but instead just failure after failure after failure.
Sure the scheme is terrible, but damn,..can a guy just beat his man and make a play…stop getting pushed around and being a non-factor.
December 12th, 2011 at 6:17 pm
this isn’t about any 1 guy, it’s 53 MEN playing up to the expectations set by their use of the word “Professional”…
Time to Buckle Up and PLAY YOUR AZZ OFF…
December 12th, 2011 at 6:19 pm
“why does palmer NEED all these guys to win?”
Its called a TEAM Einstein it takes 53 guys not just Palmer.
Get a grip old man and find your pills you are starting to get on everyone nerves with your Palmer “HATE” campaign.
Football is a team sport this is not basketball where one guy can dominate there are 11 players on the field at the same time not just Carson Palmer.
December 12th, 2011 at 6:19 pm
80.Seymour Bush Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 6:15 pm
Injuries are a reality.
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That’s the point. Injuries are a reality for EVERY TEAM. No team does not have injuries. The Dischargers have lost a ton of their offensive linemen, Gates didn’t play the lst 7 games, Bob Sanders was supposed to be their SS he didn’t get to Game 3, and they are in the hunt making a move. You are making excuses for next year.
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Chargers in the hunt making a move. Well we’re above the Chargers right now so what does that make us? Anyways, SnB I agree with you completely, I’ll take a great D against a great O any day.
December 12th, 2011 at 6:19 pm
Today Miami fired its coach.Today KC fired their coach.It would have been a good day if we could have read the Raiders fired their Defensive Coordinator.
December 12th, 2011 at 6:21 pm
That’s the point. Injuries are a reality for EVERY TEAM. No team does not have injuries. The Dischargers have lost a ton of their offensive linemen, Gates didn’t play the lst 7 games, Bob Sanders was supposed to be their SS he didn’t get to Game 3, and they are in the hunt making a move. You are making excuses for next year.
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Dude WTF… Dischargers are having their worst season in like 8 years. Injuries definitely play a role. Look at the Colts. You cannot game plan around not having a guy that your team is built around like Peyton.
Also…Chargers are only in the hunt if we keep losing. Thats it.
December 12th, 2011 at 6:22 pm
Cable had Campbell when he went 8-8.
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He also benched Campbell for poor play. Cable won 3 of his last five and had the lead in the 3rd quarter against Manning and Indy in one of those two losses. In other words the team played hard at the end. Do you really see that happening here? That last game was one of the most unprofessional displays I have EVER witnessed on a football field. And I am talking about at ANY level.
December 12th, 2011 at 6:23 pm
Late to the party on this, but Romo is a funny dude.
December 12th, 2011 at 6:24 pm
Hue is responsible for getting this outfit ready to play. The last two pathetic showings are inexcusable.
For me, he needs to beat K.C period…lose that game alone and he should be fired.
Also, I am not sure what will happen against Detroit or San Diego…but I need to see top shelf effort….come out with one of these double digit penalty lethargic efforts….he should be fired.
All I am looking for is beating K.C and a legit effort against Detroit and San Diego.
If he can’t do that….he needs to go.
I look at Sporano and how his team at least fought through the end with nothing but pride on the line.
To see this Raider team mail it in the last two weeks makes me angrier than the Win/Loss results
December 12th, 2011 at 6:24 pm
lefty12 Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 6:19 pm
Today Miami fired its coach.Today KC fired their coach.It would have been a good day if we could have read the Raiders fired their Defensive Coordinator.
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Both those teams fired their coaches because their teams failed to show up yesterday. Maybe their owners and fans are already tired of players mailing it in. You guys seem to be ok with it.
December 12th, 2011 at 6:25 pm
Answer the question Mystic1?
August 2012 Hue Jackson says Palmer is having a great camp all the WR’s are healthy and we are ready to compete.
What will you do?
1. Sit here and complain all day like an old lady
2. Start liking the 49ers
3. Get in line with the fact that Palmer and Jackson are tied at the hip?
4. Overdose on your old man pills
December 12th, 2011 at 6:25 pm
Romo calling out the team, especially the D is a must! I think more former Raiders should voice their opinions after those 2 pathetic performances. They were not 1 bit entertaining, just plain embarrassing.
These players are over paid and not living up to pay status, not even close!
Mark please get rid of that fat slob Chuck asap or punch him in the face for us.
December 12th, 2011 at 6:28 pm
I know how to audible on Madden when I see a shotgun formation, I know how to play man to man and zone coverages…but I guess this is not Madden?
December 12th, 2011 at 6:28 pm
# lefty12 Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 6:15 pm
Mystic,your 24/7 whining about our starting QB isn’t going to do anything.He will still be the starting QB the rest of this year and beyond.Everyone knows you hate the fact he replaced the QB you have a man crush on and you hate him because he doesn’t fit your criteria.But you should let it go.Nothing you say will change things and your repetitive BS makes you look very narrow minded.It also makes it look like you care more about JC being the QB than you care about the team-that is if you really do care about the team at all.You used to preach fans should support the uniform,yet you are doing the exact opposite now.Support the team or STFU.
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Lefty, your post is pure trash. I care about the team, and i have had a legit concern about the replacement qb, that have been proving true.
i know the golden hair hero is who you favor but that doesnt mean he cant be questioned. The reason i am compelled to bring it up, is because as soon as we signed palmer i noted concerns and you along with everyone else said palmer was not only better than the guy he replaced, but “elite”.
this left me no choice but to expose this fraudulent claim as nothing more than fantasy. Just like when the y benched the qb for grad i was compelled to voice my concern.
The best qb on the roster should be the starter, im not even sure palmer is better than boller or pryor at this point in his career.
This year the team has been turned over to palmer due to injury, but we didnt have to make that move and saddle ourselves with this washed up never was quick to quit bungle.
I know you jumped for joy at the prospect of palmer being here, but like i told you from the start, he is garbage and not better than what we already have.
As long as JC is here i will always advocate him being the starter when healthy until someone out performs him on the field. Why? because the best players should play, so that the team has a chance to win.
being critical of a player doesnt mean you are not supporting the team.
You can whack of to palmer posters all you want, it doesnt change facts.
he hasnt even sniffed the level of our starter, he hasnt earned a starting gig for next year, and he is lousing it up with so many turn overs he could Pillsbury out of business.
December 12th, 2011 at 6:28 pm
The running back screen play, teams have caught on to that play because it is always, as far as I can remember, run on the same side.The Raiders need to run it to the other side of use a tightend screen
Also, the Raiders stopped using the passing plays underneath the Raiders line of scrimmage.In the past those were productive plays. Ever since Palmer the Raiders stopped using the plays that could help him get comfortable.
December 12th, 2011 at 6:28 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 6:24 pm
Hue is responsible for getting this outfit ready to play. The last two pathetic showings are inexcusable.
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Exactly. And if the defense is not playing up to par, as HEAD COACH, your JOB is to go over to that side of the ball and get things fixed. He could let Saunders run the O and spend some time with the D. That’s his job. When the offense, the defense AND the special teams suck ass, something or someone has to go.
December 12th, 2011 at 6:30 pm
If Mark Davis is anything like his old man, Chuck B will be back next year to finish off his 2 year contract.
Not going to pay a guy to leave, than pay another to come in.
December 12th, 2011 at 6:31 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 6:19 pm
“why does palmer NEED all these guys to win?”
Its called a TEAM Einstein it takes 53 guys not just Palmer.
Get a grip old man and find your pills you are starting to get on everyone nerves with your Palmer “HATE” campaign.=
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shiverin crack, save it that is a weak excuse, if we won last year without those guys why is it suddenly impossible now?
easy answer we had better qb play last year
December 12th, 2011 at 6:32 pm
Seymour,
I think you and I are looking at this the same way. For me, I recognize the defense has its limitations..but why are the penalties so numerous, the arm tackles, the miscommunication.
I understand the defense just getting beat because they are right garbage….but the lethargic look from start to finish is a reflection of the head coach.
Damn the x’s and o’s
December 12th, 2011 at 6:32 pm
Beach Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 5:54 pm
JMcClain, our defense is underperforming. How is that hate? That is fact. Seymour has done nothing all season! We’ve had no defense to speak of for 9 seasons! Do you think this team is doing well?
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Of coarse not but raiders are my team and there is hate read some posts the last few weeks I’m not making it up. Ya I was really upset yesterday but I’m not blaming just one person on this team. I’m a firm believer in the offensive and defensive lines being the key to winning football games. If those two don’t work you will lose games and IMO that’s why we’re losing games. The hate around here is blaming the wrong people plain and simple. We are who we are it takes time to turn this team around from the last 11 yrs. if you people want it to happen over night it will not. You seriously think we could beat the packers are go to the superbowl, I didn’t. I just keep it real no reason to hate on me.
December 12th, 2011 at 6:33 pm
Vegas, you know how to check your emails?
December 12th, 2011 at 6:34 pm
2romes Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 6:28 pm
The running back screen play, teams have caught on to that play because it is always, as far as I can remember, run on the same side.The Raiders need to run it to the other side of use a tightend screen
Also, the Raiders stopped using the passing plays underneath the Raiders line of scrimmage.In the past those were productive plays. Ever since Palmer the Raiders stopped using the plays that could help him get comfortable.
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Exactly. He runs end arounds that the defenses are now completly waiting for. Yesterday he did the fake punt. Honestly, I loved the call. We were down 31-0. Why the fook not? The problem with that call is you do NOT have the punter heave the rock. You do not do that! It is coaching 101. He did it once and it worked, but notice when coaches that know what they are doing call a fake, the back up Q might throw a pass. Not the punter. Or a kicker for that matter. Snapping the ball to the up guy, who happens to be a running back??? Good. Having punter throw down field? Bad. Coaching 101.
December 12th, 2011 at 6:35 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 6:25 pm
Answer the question Mystic1?
August 2012 Hue Jackson says Palmer is having a great camp all the WR’s are healthy and we are ready to compete.
What will you do?
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“you have desecrated the spirit of the genie of the lamp” the geinie said to daffy duck
what a joke bra, if palmer magically turns it around and stops his free fall ill get on board. I hoped that he had a turning point in san diego but it was fools gold.
i dont see any evidence from the last two years that makes me think he can fix his turnover issue.
drink all the kool aid or md 20/20 you want bra, ill deal in reality.
December 12th, 2011 at 6:36 pm
Jmcclain,
I tell you what….there are some highly paid Raiders that are “stealing” money from these Raiders.
You pay a guy top 5 pay…that guy is supposed to take over a game.
All we have is Wimbley’s game against San Diego. Damn, had one of those 4 just made a play against Buffalo or Denver we wouldn’t be here talking about this rapidly deteriorating situation.
Get me someone to play to their pay.
Guys like Ray Lewis, Polomalu, Revis, Wilfork…guys like that make their presence felt more weeks than not.
I sincerely doubt that the opponents even bother adjusting their game plans for the Raider so-called stars
December 12th, 2011 at 6:36 pm
#101-well said.
December 12th, 2011 at 6:37 pm
Just checked my inbox all weekend, and now just looked in the Spam section.
Whoooops!!!!
I was at the Hilton, stayed out front around 1….
December 12th, 2011 at 6:37 pm
im out bootlickers
December 12th, 2011 at 6:38 pm
I can’t wait for j Campbell to sign with Seattle next season… so misty eyes can move right along with him… I still prefer Palmer over Campbell. .. wake up misty eyes… jc only a good back up for this team..but that’s it.. you need to stop fantasizing. .let it go..
December 12th, 2011 at 6:39 pm
shiverin crack, save it that is a weak excuse, if we won last year without those guys why is it suddenly impossible now?
easy answer we had better qb play last year.
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Simple answer…
Our D was much better last year
December 12th, 2011 at 6:40 pm
# ghostraiders Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 6:38 pm
I can’t wait for j Campbell to sign with Seattle next season… so misty eyes can move right along with him… I still prefer Palmer over Campbell. .. wake up misty eyes… jc only a good back up for this team..but that’s it.. you need to stop fantasizing. .let it go..
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actaually you might be on to something toast raider
PALMER SHOULD BE JC’S BACK UP NEXT YEAR!!
December 12th, 2011 at 6:40 pm
Don’t look now, but Seattle may end up with as many wins as us this season.
December 12th, 2011 at 6:41 pm
You back home?
December 12th, 2011 at 6:41 pm
Exactly. He runs end arounds that the defenses are now completly waiting for. Yesterday he did the fake punt. Honestly, I loved the call. We were down 31-0. Why the fook not? The problem with that call is you do NOT have the punter heave the rock. You do not do that! It is coaching 101. He did it once and it worked, but notice when coaches that know what they are doing call a fake, the back up Q might throw a pass. Not the punter. Or a kicker for that matter. Snapping the ball to the up guy, who happens to be a running back??? Good. Having punter throw down field? Bad. Coaching 101.
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Uhmmmm….
Shane at one point was our back-up QB
December 12th, 2011 at 6:42 pm
I know he is a sacred cow in here, but how bad has Veldheer been the last month?
Tons of penalties, sacks allowed, and all around crappy LT play.
December 12th, 2011 at 6:42 pm
I am about to go to the airport and go home.
December 12th, 2011 at 6:42 pm
PALMER SHOULD BE JC’S BACK UP NEXT YEAR!!
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That is what you call dealing with reality?
December 12th, 2011 at 6:44 pm
Shane at one point was our back-up QB
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Emergency Q. Not back up. What that means is he would be in there to hand the rock off.
December 12th, 2011 at 6:46 pm
Bigot,all I’m doing is pointing out we all realize you hate Palmer because he is white and replaced your beloved Campbell.I refuse to discuss them with you because you refuse to look at the forest through the trees.It is your right to like whichever player you choose,for whatever reason you choose.But your constant whining about the situation isn’t going to change a damn thing and I believe many are getting sick and tired of you repeating the same BS over and over.BTW,I want the best player to play and I believe Palmer is a superior QB to Campbell.Bring in RGIII and I’ll probably change my mind who I want to play.You see,I don’t base my opinion on a persons color like you do.
December 12th, 2011 at 6:48 pm
PALMER SHOULD BE JC’S BACK UP NEXT YEAR!!
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Now that statement is just plain silly. Even tho both those Q’s are lst rounders, if we went to trade Palmer, even after the last two weeks, I am sure we would get at least a lst rounder back. I would have a hard time believing we would get anything higher than a 3rd or 4th for Campbell.
December 12th, 2011 at 6:49 pm
Guys like Ray Lewis, Polomalu, Revis, Wilfork…guys like that make their presence felt more weeks than not.
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You can’t compare anyone to these guys. Ya raider fans want guys like this but there special athletes. It’s not fair to try to compare any player to these guys. I’m not a talent scout don’t pretend to be one raiders saw something in these guys do drafted them. Honestly though I’ll give mcclian one more yr to prove himself give Palmer. A whole training camp with this team give hue some time also. This team has been through tons this yr. I’m all for getting rid of players that don’t perform it’s just that this season compared to recent ones is just a wierd one I don’t no what it is this tebow crap etc.
December 12th, 2011 at 6:57 pm
Answer the question Mystic1?
August 2012 Hue Jackson says Palmer is having a great camp all the WR’s are healthy and we are ready to compete.
What will you do?
December 12th, 2011 at 7:01 pm
14.baumraiders Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 5:13 pm
McFadden will lead us to the promise land next year with whoever is the QB
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Until he gets injured and misses multiple games like he has EVERY ONE of his first four seasons.
December 13th, 2011 at 1:07 pm
Where’s the live chat?!?!?
December 13th, 2011 at 1:08 pm
nvm.
Here’s the link: http://www.mercurynews.com/raiders/ci_19425981
December 13th, 2011 at 1:30 pm
# mcfadden20. Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
Who let this monkey HUE JACK out of the zoo?
December 13th, 2011 at 1:30 pm
# RaiderDuck Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 1:07 pm
Where’s the live chat?!?!? — RIGHT HERE!!!
December 13th, 2011 at 1:31 pm
# Just Fire Baby Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 6:42 pm
I am about to go to the airport and go meet my hero Tim Tebow!! So excited.
December 13th, 2011 at 1:34 pm
# DMAC Says:
December 13th, 2011 at 1:26 pm
I’m running out of excuses for these lame Raiders.
Someone please help me.
I’ll do anything!
I’ll even suck your………
December 13th, 2011 at 7:38 pm
Steve:
I am a high school and semi-pro referee and I think I can give you a good reason why the clipping foul was allowed to stand even though the play was cancelled. By rule, personal fouls can be either a live ball or dead ball foul. Since clipping is a personal foul in the NFL, it can be called in both instances. So it does not matter the status of the ball (live or dead), the foul is called in all cases.
D
December 13th, 2011 at 11:04 pm
I’ve bashed everyone there is to bashed, ripped them good including the bulk of the subpar moron dummies who second as “players”, Hue Jack, Chuckie, etc…etc.
However, the real blame runs to the skipper, stank AL, who should have been run out of the league after 1983, last time we won the SuperBowl, once he figured out it was easier to make money winning lawsuits than football games.
The “back to Oakland” years were horrific, as stank AL sunk into dementia, alzheimers, had oozing pus sores on his face, while he was honored and adored for being the “Coach”, “Genius” etc. Maybe such monikers suited Stank at one time, but Stank went way past his time. The one bright moment came under Gruden’s command but AL couldn’t deal with Gruden (and ran him off), and knew positively that he, Stank AL, was the “wonderkind”, infallable, and would live forever.
Now we eat the fruit of what AL planted: a bullsh.t shoveling pimp and snake oil salesman for a coach; a recycled, over-the-hill embarassing DC, and the entire roster on which nary a playmaker can be found, except maybe Ford and Moore. What took 28 years in the making cannot be undone in one or even 2 or even 5 seasons. Hopefully, Amy Trask and Mark Davis will realize that Stanky AL in the last 28 was non-creative garbage, and to rid the team of Stank’s taint, the Raiders must be completely blown up, and start anew.
In the Raiders we trust.