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By Jon Becker
Monday, December 12th, 2011 at 5:00 pm in Oakland Raiders.

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  • DKnight007

    48.kidseven Says:
    December 12th, 2011 at 5:47 pm
    That we have enough talent on this team that even a bumbling idiot like Cable could get us to 8-8

    Hue Jackson is supposed to be better than Cable and should have got us at least 2 more wins.
    ———–
    Gospel.

    ^^^^^^^
    Yeah, but Chuck B is not better than John Marshall and he isn’t even better than 90% of the DC’s in this league come to think of it!

  • DKnight007

    50.Whats a Drexl? Says:
    December 12th, 2011 at 5:48 pm
    I wonder how Rothlesburger became such a tough person. How does he man-up each and every year to play on bad feet.
    DMac needs to figure out his secrets.

    ^^^^^^^
    Comparing a QB to a RB??

    Another dumb thing said on this blog!

  • 2romes

    As I stated in past since we lost McFadden Hue should have been introducing a faster shiftier running back to compliment Bush. Bush is a workhorse and very much needed in the backfield but there is nothing like a quick strike in the ground game. GB had not had a ground game like that in a while but when the line open up the back bolted through for a TD. While running Bush for past few games Bush should have gotten plays to throw the ball to keep the defense from teeing off on him.

  • Silverandblack666

    “Ford would rather wear his airmax nikes and shoot the shiz with Pryor in the sidelines.”

    Don’t get me started about today’s athlete…all this money is watering down the game. You couldn’t pull a guy out of a game in the 60′s 70′s and 80′s but today’s player taps out often.

  • Jesus

    I wonder how Rothlesburger became such a tough person. How does he man-up each and every year to play on bad feet.
    DMac needs to figure out his secrets.

    ————————–
    Start RAPING ?

  • beach

    JMcClain, our defense is underperforming. How is that hate? That is fact. Seymour has done nothing all season! We’ve had no defense to speak of for 9 seasons! Do you think this team is doing well?

  • raiderjhawk

    Jesus (if that is your real name),

    You must be smoking crack if you think we can’t beat the Chargers! Dude, we beat them twice last year and once already this year. WE DOMINATE THEM! We play them mean and they fold up like cheap lawn chairs. The chargers are scared to death of the Raiders, you should know this since you post in this blog. The chargers don’t want to play us. Are you by chance MR or whatever the last worn out moniker you used was?

    9-7 here we come (unless we can play a little harder vs. Detroit) we need Moore back BAD!

  • Seymour Bush

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    December 12th, 2011 at 5:46 pm

    “So, what are you saying?”

    That we have enough talent on this team that even a bumbling idiot like Cable could get us to 8-8

    Hue Jackson is supposed to be better than Cable and should have got us at least 2 more wins.

    THAT is WHAT i am SAYING!
    =========================================

    You are exactly right. If not for a couple of really lucky game saving plays, this season could have ended 4-12. And probably should have. I always preach improvement, and if anyone can see ANY improvement over the last four weeks I would like to know about it. Lastly with all the injuries, other guys are supposed to step up. Someone mentioned the Patriots and Brady. If anyone remembers, Bledsoe got injured and the Patriots had to turn everything over to some 6th round scrub named Tom Brady.

  • baumraiders

    47 DKnight Im also hoping for Spagnuolo.

  • CHUCKBSUCKS

    Hello everyone, I know everyone’s mad at me…but I guarantee a victory on Sunday!

  • Jesus

    RaiderJhawk ,

    I want them to win , I live in SD and hate the super chokers. But as the season is going I just know we won’t win because Hue Jack is a dum@ss !

  • baumraiders

    In fact Spagnuolo was the 2nd team that ran the most man to man defense in the league.

  • baumraiders

    Oops, I meant Spags with the giants

  • Raider 510

    51.DKnight007 Says:
    December 12th, 2011 at 5:49 pm
    48.kidseven Says:
    December 12th, 2011 at 5:47 pm
    That we have enough talent on this team that even a bumbling idiot like Cable could get us to 8-8

    Hue Jackson is supposed to be better than Cable and should have got us at least 2 more wins.
    ———–
    Gospel.

    ^^^^^^^
    Yeah, but Chuck B is not better than John Marshall and he isn’t even better than 90% of the DC’s in this league come to think of it!

    —————————–
    I don’t know why I bother argueing with the fools on this blog DKnight. Cable gave Hue an 8-8 team, but these are the same people that we’re saying Hue was the reason the team was 8-8 last year. Now Hue is working without the best player on the team, two of its playmakers missing at wr, a tougher schedule, and a brand new quarterback but his season is supposed to be judged the exact same way as last season….right…
    thank God organizations don’t listen to fans, most of them anyways.

  • raiderjhawk

    Jesus is on Crack Cocaine.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    Let me make sure i have this down. last year we beat san diego and the queefs without dmac and moore wasnt on the team. Ford had a very limited role in the charger game as well, but we won those games.

    Why then does palmer need these guys to win?

  • Seymour Bush

    Whats a Drexl? Says:
    December 12th, 2011 at 5:42 pm

    Seymour Bush Says:
    December 12th, 2011 at 5:40 pm

    The 2ndary has played surprisingly well tho.
    ==================
    I beg to differ.
    =======================================

    You can beg to differ all you want but the Raiders secondary has one of the lowest completion percentages against, and a very low yards per completion. The pass defense has been decent. The run defense atrocious. Again. As usual.

  • 8RaiderReign8

    That we have enough talent on this team that even a bumbling idiot like Cable could get us to 8-8

    Hue Jackson is supposed to be better than Cable and should have got us at least 2 more wins.

    THAT is WHAT i am SAYING!
    __________________________

    Wrong… Remember Hue called the plays for Cable. Also, Cable had less injury problems.

  • Raider 510

    58.Seymour Bush Says:
    December 12th, 2011 at 5:55 pm
    Silverandblack666 Says:
    December 12th, 2011 at 5:46 pm

    “So, what are you saying?”

    That we have enough talent on this team that even a bumbling idiot like Cable could get us to 8-8

    Hue Jackson is supposed to be better than Cable and should have got us at least 2 more wins.

    THAT is WHAT i am SAYING!
    =========================================

    You are exactly right. If not for a couple of really lucky game saving plays, this season could have ended 4-12. And probably should have. I always preach improvement, and if anyone can see ANY improvement over the last four weeks I would like to know about it. Lastly with all the injuries, other guys are supposed to step up. Someone mentioned the Patriots and Brady. If anyone remembers, Bledsoe got injured and the Patriots had to turn everything over to some 6th round scrub named Tom Brady.

    ————————-
    Meaning every quarterback that steps in for the injured starter must raise the standards and play to the level of one of the best quarterbacks to ever play the game….right…keep em comin.

  • raiderjhawk

    Mistic, you are confused. We beat the Chiefs and Chargers both times each without DMAC? huh, I guess I missed that considering that I watch every Raiders game with my Sunday ticket and haven’t missed a game in 5 years. And Ford had a limited Role in the Offense? Huh, so that pass that he ripped out of Flowers hands that was on all the highlight reels didn’t happen? I guess we must have watched different Raiders teams last year…

  • TheGreatness

    Did anyone else see Mike Mitchell’s tweet? Something along the lines of…. (You can add Jermichael Finley to the list of tight ends that I’ve shut down, no catches and I took the ball away from him for a int. in the end zone) what a piece of $hit, dude talks so much trash even when they get beaten down! Good to see we have some great team players.

  • 8RaiderReign8

    What got us to 8-8 was Hue’s playcalling and Marshall’s D. Al let Cable keep the HC title to be nice.

  • Seymour Bush

    Wrong… Remember Hue called the plays for Cable. Also, Cable had less injury problems.
    ========================================

    Cable also took over a team in complete absolute utter disarray. Cable took over A team that had not had more than 5 wins in a season in 9 years. Cable was saddled with a complete rookie set of WR’s and Jabustus. The team Jackson took over was used to winning games and had MUCH BETTER personnel. Injuries are an excuse.

  • raiderjhawk

    Palmer needs some reliable WR’s, Chaz, Housh, DHB and Murphy ain’t those guys. Sorry, that’s why we need Ford and Moore.

    Most teams do need their starting WR’s to compete against other teams. You start throwing scrub WR’s in the mix and it’s a recipe for disaster.

  • Seymour Bush

    Meaning every quarterback that steps in for the injured starter must raise the standards and play to the level of one of the best quarterbacks to ever play the game….right…keep em comin.
    ================================

    No. Meaning that when your turn comes to play due to injuries, it is your turn to play. Some guys rise up. Some don’t. Ours don’t.

  • Raider 510

    73.Seymour Bush Says:
    December 12th, 2011 at 6:07 pm
    Wrong… Remember Hue called the plays for Cable. Also, Cable had less injury problems.
    ========================================

    Cable also took over a team in complete absolute utter disarray. Cable took over A team that had not had more than 5 wins in a season in 9 years. Cable was saddled with a complete rookie set of WR’s and Jabustus. The team Jackson took over was used to winning games and had MUCH BETTER personnel. Injuries are an excuse.

    ————————
    Used to winning, you must mean the “We’re not losers anymore” quote. Injuries are a reality. And if all of this you’re talking about is somehow implying that you wish we had Cable back as HC, then damn I’m thru with you bro.

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    Folks….DMAC has averaged NINE carries a game and dropping every week. The guy was hurt in camp…the guy gets hurt a lot. Not because he is not tough…but because he has a foot injury and that is a place that is hard to heal 100%. Ask Chaz. His absence is NO EXCUSE for this mess.

    So is DHB a bust? Our number 1 receiver has been playing the entire time and you all treat that like its bullsh&t. The m’fn starter!

    Jacoby Ford has been out MOST of the year so he wasn’t a factor much. Denarious Moore? Sure he is a key target, but this team should have had the horses with Louis Murphy, Schilens and DHB to be able to get by.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    # raiderjhawk Says:
    December 12th, 2011 at 6:04 pm

    Mistic, you are confused. We beat the Chiefs and Chargers both times each without DMAC? huh, I guess I missed that considering that I watch every Raiders game with my Sunday ticket and haven’t missed a game in 5 years. And Ford had a limited Role in the Offense? Huh, so that pass that he ripped out of Flowers hands that was on all the highlight reels didn’t happen? I guess we must have watched different Raiders teams last year…
    =============

    not so fast, i said ford had a limited role in the charger game, not the queefs game.

    moore wasnt on the team.

    dmac missed on game each vs kc and san diego

    we won those games

    why does palmer NEED all these guys to win?

  • olinesux

    see all he had to say was dmc out for the year instead of this bs about maybe next week…fords turn…hey dumbazz dont you realize that some people play hurt? grow some stones!

  • Seymour Bush

    Injuries are a reality.
    ===================================

    That’s the point. Injuries are a reality for EVERY TEAM. No team does not have injuries. The Dischargers have lost a ton of their offensive linemen, Gates didn’t play the lst 7 games, Bob Sanders was supposed to be their SS he didn’t get to Game 3, and they are in the hunt making a move. You are making excuses for next year.

  • lefty12

    Mystic,your 24/7 whining about our starting QB isn’t going to do anything.He will still be the starting QB the rest of this year and beyond.Everyone knows you hate the fact he replaced the QB you have a man crush on and you hate him because he doesn’t fit your criteria.But you should let it go.Nothing you say will change things and your repetitive BS makes you look very narrow minded.It also makes it look like you care more about JC being the QB than you care about the team-that is if you really do care about the team at all.You used to preach fans should support the uniform,yet you are doing the exact opposite now.Support the team or STFU.

  • 8RaiderReign8

    Cable also took over a team in complete absolute utter disarray. Cable took over A team that had not had more than 5 wins in a season in 9 years. Cable was saddled with a complete rookie set of WR’s and Jabustus. The team Jackson took over was used to winning games and had MUCH BETTER personnel. Injuries are an excuse.
    _________________________

    Cable had Campbell when he went 8-8. Also, if you think injuries are just excuses go talk to the Bears, Minnesota, etc…

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    And this is for you Madden Gamers who ignored the need for a real STOUT defense.

    Now do you understand? You have a raggedy defense that can’t stop the run which means they can’t get off the field…..time consuming punishing drives.

    Your money guys have let you down:

    Seymour, Wimbley, Kelly and Routt. Only 1 truly difference making game all year among the lot of them…and that was Wimbley’s multi-sack/pressure performance against an injury riddled San Diego defense.

    Had the players with bloated contracts each stepped it up in just 1 more game, this is a different situation….but instead just failure after failure after failure.

    Sure the scheme is terrible, but damn,..can a guy just beat his man and make a play…stop getting pushed around and being a non-factor.

  • VanHeathen

    this isn’t about any 1 guy, it’s 53 MEN playing up to the expectations set by their use of the word “Professional”…
    Time to Buckle Up and PLAY YOUR AZZ OFF…

  • Silverandblack666

    “why does palmer NEED all these guys to win?”

    Its called a TEAM Einstein it takes 53 guys not just Palmer.

    Get a grip old man and find your pills you are starting to get on everyone nerves with your Palmer “HATE” campaign.

    Football is a team sport this is not basketball where one guy can dominate there are 11 players on the field at the same time not just Carson Palmer.

  • Raider 510

    80.Seymour Bush Says:
    December 12th, 2011 at 6:15 pm
    Injuries are a reality.
    ===================================

    That’s the point. Injuries are a reality for EVERY TEAM. No team does not have injuries. The Dischargers have lost a ton of their offensive linemen, Gates didn’t play the lst 7 games, Bob Sanders was supposed to be their SS he didn’t get to Game 3, and they are in the hunt making a move. You are making excuses for next year.

    ——————-
    Chargers in the hunt making a move. Well we’re above the Chargers right now so what does that make us? Anyways, SnB I agree with you completely, I’ll take a great D against a great O any day.

  • lefty12

    Today Miami fired its coach.Today KC fired their coach.It would have been a good day if we could have read the Raiders fired their Defensive Coordinator.

  • 8RaiderReign8

    That’s the point. Injuries are a reality for EVERY TEAM. No team does not have injuries. The Dischargers have lost a ton of their offensive linemen, Gates didn’t play the lst 7 games, Bob Sanders was supposed to be their SS he didn’t get to Game 3, and they are in the hunt making a move. You are making excuses for next year.
    ________________________

    Dude WTF… Dischargers are having their worst season in like 8 years. Injuries definitely play a role. Look at the Colts. You cannot game plan around not having a guy that your team is built around like Peyton.

    Also…Chargers are only in the hunt if we keep losing. Thats it.

  • Seymour Bush

    Cable had Campbell when he went 8-8.
    ==============================================

    He also benched Campbell for poor play. Cable won 3 of his last five and had the lead in the 3rd quarter against Manning and Indy in one of those two losses. In other words the team played hard at the end. Do you really see that happening here? That last game was one of the most unprofessional displays I have EVER witnessed on a football field. And I am talking about at ANY level.

  • DarthPirate

    Late to the party on this, but Romo is a funny dude.

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    Hue is responsible for getting this outfit ready to play. The last two pathetic showings are inexcusable.

    For me, he needs to beat K.C period…lose that game alone and he should be fired.

    Also, I am not sure what will happen against Detroit or San Diego…but I need to see top shelf effort….come out with one of these double digit penalty lethargic efforts….he should be fired.

    All I am looking for is beating K.C and a legit effort against Detroit and San Diego.

    If he can’t do that….he needs to go.

    I look at Sporano and how his team at least fought through the end with nothing but pride on the line.

    To see this Raider team mail it in the last two weeks makes me angrier than the Win/Loss results

  • Seymour Bush

    lefty12 Says:
    December 12th, 2011 at 6:19 pm

    Today Miami fired its coach.Today KC fired their coach.It would have been a good day if we could have read the Raiders fired their Defensive Coordinator.
    ==============================================

    Both those teams fired their coaches because their teams failed to show up yesterday. Maybe their owners and fans are already tired of players mailing it in. You guys seem to be ok with it.

  • Silverandblack666

    Answer the question Mystic1?

    August 2012 Hue Jackson says Palmer is having a great camp all the WR’s are healthy and we are ready to compete.

    What will you do?

    1. Sit here and complain all day like an old lady

    2. Start liking the 49ers

    3. Get in line with the fact that Palmer and Jackson are tied at the hip?

    4. Overdose on your old man pills

  • Deja vu

    Romo calling out the team, especially the D is a must! I think more former Raiders should voice their opinions after those 2 pathetic performances. They were not 1 bit entertaining, just plain embarrassing.

    These players are over paid and not living up to pay status, not even close!

    Mark please get rid of that fat slob Chuck asap or punch him in the face for us.

  • CHUCKBSUCKS

    I know how to audible on Madden when I see a shotgun formation, I know how to play man to man and zone coverages…but I guess this is not Madden?

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    # lefty12 Says:
    December 12th, 2011 at 6:15 pm

    Mystic,your 24/7 whining about our starting QB isn’t going to do anything.He will still be the starting QB the rest of this year and beyond.Everyone knows you hate the fact he replaced the QB you have a man crush on and you hate him because he doesn’t fit your criteria.But you should let it go.Nothing you say will change things and your repetitive BS makes you look very narrow minded.It also makes it look like you care more about JC being the QB than you care about the team-that is if you really do care about the team at all.You used to preach fans should support the uniform,yet you are doing the exact opposite now.Support the team or STFU.
    ==============

    Lefty, your post is pure trash. I care about the team, and i have had a legit concern about the replacement qb, that have been proving true.

    i know the golden hair hero is who you favor but that doesnt mean he cant be questioned. The reason i am compelled to bring it up, is because as soon as we signed palmer i noted concerns and you along with everyone else said palmer was not only better than the guy he replaced, but “elite”.

    this left me no choice but to expose this fraudulent claim as nothing more than fantasy. Just like when the y benched the qb for grad i was compelled to voice my concern.

    The best qb on the roster should be the starter, im not even sure palmer is better than boller or pryor at this point in his career.

    This year the team has been turned over to palmer due to injury, but we didnt have to make that move and saddle ourselves with this washed up never was quick to quit bungle.

    I know you jumped for joy at the prospect of palmer being here, but like i told you from the start, he is garbage and not better than what we already have.

    As long as JC is here i will always advocate him being the starter when healthy until someone out performs him on the field. Why? because the best players should play, so that the team has a chance to win.

    being critical of a player doesnt mean you are not supporting the team.

    You can whack of to palmer posters all you want, it doesnt change facts.

    he hasnt even sniffed the level of our starter, he hasnt earned a starting gig for next year, and he is lousing it up with so many turn overs he could Pillsbury out of business.

  • 2romes

    The running back screen play, teams have caught on to that play because it is always, as far as I can remember, run on the same side.The Raiders need to run it to the other side of use a tightend screen

    Also, the Raiders stopped using the passing plays underneath the Raiders line of scrimmage.In the past those were productive plays. Ever since Palmer the Raiders stopped using the plays that could help him get comfortable.

  • Seymour Bush

    SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
    December 12th, 2011 at 6:24 pm

    Hue is responsible for getting this outfit ready to play. The last two pathetic showings are inexcusable.
    ================================================

    Exactly. And if the defense is not playing up to par, as HEAD COACH, your JOB is to go over to that side of the ball and get things fixed. He could let Saunders run the O and spend some time with the D. That’s his job. When the offense, the defense AND the special teams suck ass, something or someone has to go.

  • Just Fire Baby

    If Mark Davis is anything like his old man, Chuck B will be back next year to finish off his 2 year contract.

    Not going to pay a guy to leave, than pay another to come in.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    December 12th, 2011 at 6:19 pm

    “why does palmer NEED all these guys to win?”

    Its called a TEAM Einstein it takes 53 guys not just Palmer.

    Get a grip old man and find your pills you are starting to get on everyone nerves with your Palmer “HATE” campaign.=
    =============

    shiverin crack, save it that is a weak excuse, if we won last year without those guys why is it suddenly impossible now?

    easy answer we had better qb play last year