WR Moore returns to practice; McFadden, Ford still out
By Steve Corkran
Wednesday, December 14th, 2011 at 11:41 am in Oakland Raiders.
Wide receiver/punt returner Denarius Moore provided the Raiders with a bit of welcomed good news by returning to practice Wednesday.
Moore has been sidelined with a sore foot since he sprained it against the Minnesota Vikings on Nov. 20. He is fielding punts and catching passes on the field right now.
Meanwhile, running back Darren McFadden is nowhere to be seen. He has missed the past 52 days with a midfoot sprain and there still isn’t a timetable for his return this season, if at all.
Wide receiver Jacoby Ford (foot) and running back Taiwan Jones (hamstring) are working on an adjacent field with a team trainer. That portends their being a realistic shot at one or both returning in time for Sunday’s game against the Detroit Lions.
Wide receivers Chaz Schilens, Darrius Heyward-Bey and Louis Murphy also are practicing despite getting banged up at some point against the Green Bay Packers on Sunday.
Defensive tackle John Henderson (knee) and free safety Michael Huff (hamstring) are not practicing today. Both suffered injuries against the Packers. Cornerback Chris Johnson is not practicing, and he was not on the field as a spectator, either.
Center Samson Satele (shoulder) made it to practice despite his injury against the Packers.
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December 14th, 2011 at 11:42 am
Raaaaaaiiiiderrrsssss
December 14th, 2011 at 11:43 am
I can’t believe I’m actually rooting for Chris Johnson to come back soon. Lito looked terrible Sunday
December 14th, 2011 at 11:43 am
Been a long time since this phrase maeant as much, but…
JUST WIN BABY!
December 14th, 2011 at 11:44 am
If Suh picks Carlisle to beat all day as his better matchup; this might be the week Bruce Campbell actually gets his number called. Hope he’s ready, and more-so, just hope he’s not in-active…
December 14th, 2011 at 11:44 am
Satele and his fat chick fro will jog off the field 23 times during Sunday’s game to check an ‘injury’…and then proceed to go back out and get emasculated by Suh…
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LOL @ Mike G
December 14th, 2011 at 11:45 am
Thec07 Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 11:42 am
DeuceDeuce Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 11:39 am
Hard to imagine Jared Gaither doing any worse than Barnes, while were talking about off season moves that didnt work.
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Gaither is now the starting LT for the dischargers…
He has looked good in both games…
Dumb aZZ haley gave him to them for a ice cream cone…
December 14th, 2011 at 11:46 am
At leasts 2 of our 4 burners will be back…Awesome…
December 14th, 2011 at 11:47 am
cockran i would never follow you on twitter…
December 14th, 2011 at 11:47 am
Hue Jacksons play calling has been the most predictable I remember in years. I literally call every play before the snap.
December 14th, 2011 at 11:47 am
HueKnows Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 11:46 am
Haley cut Gaither for a penalty that cost them the game.
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December 14th, 2011 at 11:48 am
7.Thec07 Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 11:46 am
At leasts 2 of our 4 burners will be back…Awesome…
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Thats gonna help the run game tremendously….. We need another DHB Houston Texan game
December 14th, 2011 at 11:49 am
If Bruce Campbell doesn’t see the field after the molesting that I know is gonna go down this Sunday betweeen Sun, Satele & Carlisle; he’s never gonna see the field….
December 14th, 2011 at 11:49 am
HueKnows Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 11:46 am
Haley cut Gaither for a penalty that cost them the game.
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Naw Bruh, i watched that game, it was at a bad time no doubt but did not cost them the game…
December 14th, 2011 at 11:49 am
SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 11:48 am
7.Thec07 Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 11:46 am
At leasts 2 of our 4 burners will be back…Awesome…
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Thats gonna help the run game tremendously….. We need another DHB Houston Texan game
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We need another Defensive game like against the Texans.
December 14th, 2011 at 11:50 am
I know there a lot of Bush fans here, but i would not over pay this dude in the offseason. If someone is dumb enough to give him starter $, let him walk and we should not try and match it. There will be more affordable RB’s to compliment McFadden if he recovers.
December 14th, 2011 at 11:51 am
Thats gonna help the run game tremendously….. We need another DHB Houston Texan game
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DHB plays better when the other guys DMO and JFORD are playing… He will have a better game…
December 14th, 2011 at 11:51 am
BCZ,
facts & your opinion = not the same thing
other teams are winning football games without key starters. You’re saying the Raiders aren’t expected to do the same
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Really? Which team is winning games right now after losing its starting QB for the year, its starting RB for the year AND its 2 best WRs for significant time? Oh, and please do not leave out the FACT that the Raiders are 3-4 with ALL of those injuries. Show me some FACTS of teams that are consistantly winning with those injuries. Go ahead… I’ll wait.
December 14th, 2011 at 11:51 am
Realisticly how much can we expect from Moore coming back from a foot injury?
Not that much.
December 14th, 2011 at 11:51 am
joetoronto Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 11:43 am
DMAC: I take it you’re referring to that play down the sideline where he was beaten like a red headed stepchild by a WR?
Can’t remember the name.
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No.
Acually when he cut stiff armed by Megahee
December 14th, 2011 at 11:52 am
We need another Defensive game like against the Texans.
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mcclain, needs to strap it up and make some plays…
We need someone on the D to become a playmaker…
December 14th, 2011 at 11:52 am
Lions pretty bad at run d right? Run the rock!
December 14th, 2011 at 11:53 am
Taiwan still out and CJ too!
Fk, we are a 1 legged man in a ass kicking contest!!!
December 14th, 2011 at 11:53 am
We need another Defensive game like against the Texans.
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don’t bank on that, we gotta score lots
December 14th, 2011 at 11:54 am
Wide receiver/punt returner Denarius Moore provided the Raiders with a bit of welcomed good news by returning to practice Wednesday.
Wide receivers Chaz Schilens, Darrius Heyward-Bey and Louis Murphy also are practicing despite getting banged up at some point against the Green Bay Packers on Sunday
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thats 4 WR’s plus TJ Housh
plus all 3 or 4 TE’s are healthy and Reece is a receiving threat
any excuses for Carson Palmer if he doesn’t get it done AT HOME versus Detroit?
December 14th, 2011 at 11:54 am
Thec07 Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 11:49 am
HueKnows Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 11:46 am
Haley cut Gaither for a penalty that cost them the game.
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Naw Bruh, i watched that game, it was at a bad time no doubt but did not cost them the game…
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I saw the game too and you are partially right bowe did miss play that pass but …
http://www.kmbc.com/sports/29881593/detail.html
December 14th, 2011 at 11:55 am
“Really? Which team is winning games right now after losing its starting QB for the year, its starting RB for the year AND its 2 best WRs for significant time?”
The Houston Texans!
December 14th, 2011 at 11:55 am
McClain is a joke. Has to be the slowest MLB in the NFL. And I mean slowest in the sense of running and mentally.
December 14th, 2011 at 11:56 am
In other words 1 WR and 4 semi’s
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RaiderRockstar Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 11:54 am
thats 4 WR’s plus TJ Housh
December 14th, 2011 at 11:56 am
Poll: Do we have the worse team trainers/medical staff in the league?
December 14th, 2011 at 11:56 am
Really? Which team is winning games right now after losing its starting QB for the year, its starting RB for the year AND its 2 best WRs for significant time? Oh, and please do not leave out the FACT that the Raiders are 3-4 with ALL of those injuries. Show me some FACTS of teams that are consistantly winning with those injuries. Go ahead… I’ll wait.
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Houston
December 14th, 2011 at 11:56 am
15.Deja vu Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 11:50 am
I know there a lot of Bush fans here, but i would not over pay this dude in the offseason. If someone is dumb enough to give him starter $, let him walk and we should not try and match it. There will be more affordable RB’s to compliment McFadden if he recovers.
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Fitting how your name/handle is DejaVu and McFadden keeps getting hurt EVERY year. Think about that for a sec…..funny huh……which ties to my next point….
We should be glad we have Bush….very glad….And if one team can get him cheaper than his real value it’s us because he likes it here and we’re the team that showed him love drafting him; as well as loyalty to this point….we should offer right below whatever the market value is for him, and then if he still walks; we’ll have to accept it…but don’t start knocking the dude
December 14th, 2011 at 11:57 am
inonewordraider Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 11:52 am
Lions pretty bad at run d right? Run the rock!
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Not when facing 8 man fronts. Safeties have been coming up and sticking their nose in the box.
If we get 2 of our 4 burners this is going to open up the box, and create some running lanes.
Put tonga in the game…Cushing was eating us alive and we inserted Tonga andd he man handled cushing…
We will need some really good play calling…
December 14th, 2011 at 11:57 am
29.John David Booty Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 11:56 am
Poll: Do we have the worse team trainers/medical staff in the league?
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Good point…..we just might….I’m sure if they ranked ‘em, we’re in the bottom third of the league….
December 14th, 2011 at 11:57 am
John David Booty Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 11:56 am
Poll: Do we have the worse team trainers/medical staff in the league?
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We need to re-hire Marv Marinovich
December 14th, 2011 at 11:57 am
I think we will get to Stafford 1 too many times and he will go down. That guy is injury prone.
Wimbley or Curry will knock him out. R Seymour will be invisible and L Houston hasnt done anything in his entire career.
December 14th, 2011 at 11:57 am
look what wade did for the Texans, and our O and special teams more explosive. We need a good D coordinator and a run stuffer or two in the middle besides an aging Henderson. We got a Dline full of base DE’s or pass rushing Dt’s not run cloggers
December 14th, 2011 at 11:58 am
Houston is the closest you have to an argument, but they have had Foster since week 3, and only been without Schaub for 2 games, AND they have a top 5 defense in the entire league. Miami? Only lost their qb, still have the rest of their offense in tact, 4-9. KC has a lot of injuries on offense 5-8 (and have been completely anhilated 5 times). Chicago? 0-3 since their qb went down. Bills? Lost Freddie Jackson 5-8 (0-6 without Jackson). Indy? 0-13 without Manning. TB? 4-9 with only missing a few games from Blount and Freeman. Where is this team with the # of injuries to offensive players that is winning games?
December 14th, 2011 at 11:58 am
Houston still has a great running game and a solid D.
They would be winning games w/ Leinhart back there
December 14th, 2011 at 11:59 am
Detroits secondary is banged up and are not that good.
No excuses for WR’s this weekend.
December 14th, 2011 at 11:59 am
MistaBrown Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 11:57 am
I think we will get to Stafford 1 too many times and he will go down. That guy is injury prone.
Wimbley or Curry will knock him out. R Seymour will be invisible and L Houston hasnt done anything in his entire career.
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Actually Houston has been pretty stout against the run. Which is his purpose. None of the big runs we have given up have been on his side. Just saying.
December 14th, 2011 at 11:59 am
HueKnows Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 11:54 am
Thec07 Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 11:49 am
HueKnows Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 11:46 am
Haley cut Gaither for a penalty that cost them the game.
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Naw Bruh, i watched that game, it was at a bad time no doubt but did not cost them the game…
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I saw the game too and you are partially right bowe did miss play that pass but …
http://www.kmbc.com/sports/29881593/detail.html
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I get the excuse as to why haley cut him but it was not at a good time. Have you seen the chargers play lately after pickiging up Gaither????
the disc could run the table all becuase rivers doesnt have to worry about his back side…
December 14th, 2011 at 11:59 am
Why is it that DMAC is always no where to be seen?
December 14th, 2011 at 11:59 am
BCZ,
did Hue Jackson trade two 1st round picks for a backup QB?
If so, your boy should be canned ASAP!
Ford & Moore being the best 2 WR’s is debateable. King Darrius & Lou Murphy have had just as many solid games, if not more. Ford & Moore run hot & cold like the rest of the WR corps.
if Bush is a starter quality RB, then shut up about DMAC. You didn’t say jack when Bush was doing well
December 14th, 2011 at 12:00 pm
Deja vu Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 11:59 am
Detroits secondary is banged up and are not that good.
No excuses for WR’s this weekend.
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Dont worry. We’ll find some way to not take advantage of the opportunity.
December 14th, 2011 at 12:00 pm
“McClain is a joke. Has to be the slowest MLB in the NFL. And I mean slowest in the sense of running and mentally.”
I have seen this guy take bad angles, miss tackles and end up in the wrong gap on some plays. Whats funny to me is that as bad as he is Blackstock is even ten times worse.
December 14th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
Houston is a beast!
True run stuffer!
Gets overlooked cuz he doesn’t get sacks.
Luv his high motor/trash talking attitude.
December 14th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
hwnrdr Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 11:59 am
Why is it that DMAC is always no where to be seen?
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If reporters saw the boot/bad limping they would report it and remove any “hope” that the fan base has. He’s done for the year. Obviously.
December 14th, 2011 at 12:02 pm
Laughingstock is not an NFL MLB…
December 14th, 2011 at 12:03 pm
No whats funny is guys on the blog wanting curry to play mike…
December 14th, 2011 at 12:03 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 12:00 pm
“McClain is a joke. Has to be the slowest MLB in the NFL. And I mean slowest in the sense of running and mentally.”
I have seen this guy take bad angles, miss tackles and end up in the wrong gap on some plays. Whats funny to me is that as bad as he is Blackstock is even ten times worse.
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True. But i’ll take Blackstocks effort over McClain jogging to everywhere he’s not supposed to be.
Oh how I miss thee Kirk Morrison.
December 14th, 2011 at 12:03 pm
DMAC Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
Houston is a beast!
True run stuffer!
Gets overlooked cuz he doesn’t get sacks.
Luv his high motor/trash talking attitude.
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As a matter of fact, I think my next jersey im going w/ Lamar!
December 14th, 2011 at 12:04 pm
I ask you guys is Travis Goethel a legitimate replacement for us at MLB or have we not seen enough of him to know?
December 14th, 2011 at 12:04 pm
Thomas Howard would allow Wimbley to move to DE where he belongs.
December 14th, 2011 at 12:04 pm
43.RaiderRockstar Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 11:59 am
BCZ,
did Hue Jackson trade two 1st round picks for a backup QB?
If so, your boy should be canned ASAP!
Ford & Moore being the best 2 WR’s is debateable. King Darrius & Lou Murphy have had just as many solid games, if not more. Ford & Moore run hot & cold like the rest of the WR corps.
if Bush is a starter quality RB, then shut up about DMAC. You didn’t say jack when Bush was doing well
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Really so thats it… Palmer can come off the streets and there should be no decline from Campbell? Weren’t you one of the guys touting how awesome Campbell was? Riddle me this Batman, how many games in his 22 game tenure did Jason Campbell win without McFadden in the lineup?
I NEVER said Bush was a starting calibur back in the NFL. Not one time. So I will not shut up about McFadden when our ENTIRE offense is built around HIM.
Even with missing those guys for significant time Palmer is STILL 3-3… and he has NO help from the defense either.
December 14th, 2011 at 12:05 pm
I get the excuse as to why haley cut him but it was not at a good time. Have you seen the chargers play lately after pickiging up Gaither????
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I have and he has been playin lights out and only after 2 games..but will he be consistent..
I wanted him after reading about him here all year last year.
To bad he didn’t pass the physical.
Haley is a dumb @ss probably just used him as a scapegoat.
And the Chockers aint gonna run the table
December 14th, 2011 at 12:05 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 12:04 pm
I ask you guys is Travis Goethel a legitimate replacement for us at MLB or have we not seen enough of him to know?
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Dude looked slow ass hell after his 1st injury.
IMO, I think he’s done.
December 14th, 2011 at 12:05 pm
Ford & Moore being the best 2 WR’s is debateable. King Darrius & Lou Murphy have had just as many solid games, if not more. Ford & Moore run hot & cold like the rest of the WR corps.
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I would take you up on this one. I would also venture to say that DNH plays better when either DMO or JFORD play, as he gets 1 on 1 coverage…
December 14th, 2011 at 12:05 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 12:04 pm
I ask you guys is Travis Goethel a legitimate replacement for us at MLB or have we not seen enough of him to know?
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Seems just as slow as McClain just with better instincts for a 4-3 MLB.
McClain just cant play 4-3
December 14th, 2011 at 12:06 pm
Haley is a dumb @ss probably just used him as a scapegoat.
And the Chockers aint gonna run the table
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Truth…
December 14th, 2011 at 12:06 pm
Was it the Miami game that Curry was playing mike? Isn’t that why Seattle couldn’t get production out of him?
December 14th, 2011 at 12:06 pm
Lou Murphy
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as good as ford or Moore? come one rockstar, def not this year if ever again
December 14th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
we should offer right below whatever the market value is for him, and then if he still walks; we’ll have to accept it…but don’t start knocking the dude
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Not knocking him at all. I’m glad we have him on the roster and he’s earned his pay in his time here.
I’m just saying i wouldn’t give him starter money or match a high price tag. For someone that’s not a complete back, has trouble blocking. We have too many holes to fill on the D side to pay 2 backs starter $.
December 14th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
“Seems just as slow as McClain just with better instincts for a 4-3 MLB.
McClain just cant play 4-3″
So do we draft another MLB in the second round or do we pray that McClain pans out….this will be interesting to watch play out.
December 14th, 2011 at 12:08 pm
Blocking can be taught.
December 14th, 2011 at 12:08 pm
Who the hell is DNH????
I meant DHB
December 14th, 2011 at 12:08 pm
Love DHB but he’s not better than Ford or Moore as evidenced by the three drops last game, Ford or Moore wouldn’t drop three in my opinion
December 14th, 2011 at 12:08 pm
Thats another thing we are missing BIG TIME with McFadden out. Bush is a terrible pass blocker. That isn’t even up for debate.
December 14th, 2011 at 12:08 pm
Darrius Handslike-Bricks?
December 14th, 2011 at 12:09 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
“Seems just as slow as McClain just with better instincts for a 4-3 MLB.
McClain just cant play 4-3″
So do we draft another MLB in the second round or do we pray that McClain pans out….this will be interesting to watch play out.
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Rather go the FA route than try and hit a home run with one of our only draft picks. We need a veteran MLB that knows whats going on.
December 14th, 2011 at 12:09 pm
I thought Bush actually blocked well the GB game.
December 14th, 2011 at 12:10 pm
hwnrdr Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 12:06 pm
Was it the Miami game that Curry was playing mike? Isn’t that why Seattle couldn’t get production out of him?
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Yeah he got some mike time in the miami game…
What a waste but guess they figured he was a better option than laughingstock…Dumb move…
December 14th, 2011 at 12:10 pm
DMAC Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 12:09 pm
I thought Bush actually blocked well the GB game.
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I agree. Problem is Satele, Carlisle & Barnes didnt.
December 14th, 2011 at 12:10 pm
So do we draft another MLB in the second round or do we pray that McClain pans out….this will be interesting to watch play out.
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Didn’t know we had a 2nd rounder.
December 14th, 2011 at 12:10 pm
I’m not trippin if a WR drops a few passes sometimes, as long as he makes plays also.
Guess who led the league last year in dropped passes?
December 14th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
Short article about our boy Bush back at my hometown paper’s site…
http://www.courier-journal.com/article/20111213/SPORTS/312130130/Michael-Bush-Raiders?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|Sports
December 14th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
Where’d you go Rock? Still waiting for you to show me a team that is winning with anything CLOSE to the injury nightmare our team has faced this season.
December 14th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
best WR’s are
1a. JFORD
1b. DMO
2. Hagan
4. DHB
December 14th, 2011 at 12:13 pm
Guess who led the league last year in dropped passes?
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Crabtree?
December 14th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
I rank Moore ahead of Ford but they’re interchangable. I’d rather have Ford running in the open field after the catch, but D.Moore (especially being a rookie) IMO will be the clear cut #1 in a few years.
December 14th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
HueKnows Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 12:10 pm
So do we draft another MLB in the second round or do we pray that McClain pans out….this will be interesting to watch play out.
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Didn’t know we had a 2nd rounder.
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Better spend an picks you have on the trench…
RUN STUFFING DLINEMEN…NO CONVERTS
December 14th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
Thec07 Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
best WR’s are
1a. JFORD
1b. DMO
2. Hagan
4. DHB
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Moore
Ford
DHB
Schillens
Murphy
Hagan
Housh
Ive heard all the Hagan talk I can handle. He’s not that good folks.
December 14th, 2011 at 12:15 pm
Thec07 Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 12:13 pm
Guess who led the league last year in dropped passes?
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Crabtree?
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Welker for 800?
December 14th, 2011 at 12:15 pm
Guess who led the league last year in dropped passes?
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http://www.kmbc.com/sports/29881593/detail.html
December 14th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
Nation-Station
12-14-11: MOORE BACK
Find out whos back, who won’t be and who shouldn’t…
http://www.raidernationstation.com/raider_war_room
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Should we sit Satele?
December 14th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
We need to be looking at right tackle, DT, but maybe more demanding than both of those is the need at CB opposite Routt.
December 14th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
WR’s drop passes all the time, but they also make plays.
Stevie Johnson, Wes Welker, Brandon Marshall etc. and the list goes on.
December 14th, 2011 at 12:18 pm
Ding Ding Ding
Wes Welker led all recievers last year w/ most dropped passes.
December 14th, 2011 at 12:19 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 11:54 am
Wide receiver/punt returner Denarius Moore provided the Raiders with a bit of welcomed good news by returning to practice Wednesday.
Wide receivers Chaz Schilens, Darrius Heyward-Bey and Louis Murphy also are practicing despite getting banged up at some point against the Green Bay Packers on Sunday
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thats 4 WR’s plus TJ Housh
plus all 3 or 4 TE’s are healthy and Reece is a receiving threat
any excuses for Carson Palmer if he doesn’t get it done AT HOME versus Detroit?
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SUH stomping on his head
December 14th, 2011 at 12:19 pm
DMAC Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 12:18 pm
Ding Ding Ding
Wes Welker led all recievers last year w/ most dropped passes.
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What did I win?
December 14th, 2011 at 12:21 pm
DeuceDeuce Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 12:19 pm
DMAC Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 12:18 pm
Ding Ding Ding
Wes Welker led all recievers last year w/ most dropped passes.
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What did I win?
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An autographed Blackstock pic.
What address do I send it 2?
December 14th, 2011 at 12:21 pm
any excuses for Carson Palmer if he doesn’t get it done AT HOME versus Detroit?
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None
December 14th, 2011 at 12:21 pm
I believe our offseason should be Defense! Starting with a REAL DCO!
December 14th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
Wes Welker led all recievers last year w/ most dropped passes
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He has so many dropped because he has so many targeted at him …
December 14th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
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An autographed Blackstock pic.
What address do I send it 2?
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WOW….Thats more like a gag gift…
December 14th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
hwnrdr Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 12:21 pm
I believe our offseason should be Defense! Starting with a REAL DCO!
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Truth
December 14th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
Thec07 Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
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An autographed Blackstock pic.
What address do I send it 2?
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WOW….Thats more like a gag gift…
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C’mon Thec
He’s a Raider
lol
December 14th, 2011 at 12:23 pm
94.Thec07 Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
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An autographed Blackstock pic.
What address do I send it 2?
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WOW….Thats more like a gag gift…
LMAO! Come on DMAC!!! Haha!
December 14th, 2011 at 12:25 pm
According to google, Corkran has used the word “portends” 26 times in his blogs. He likes that word a lot.
December 14th, 2011 at 12:25 pm
A signed Doug Gabriel jersey might be better
December 14th, 2011 at 12:25 pm
I think Oakland might finally be a choice destination for free agents.
December 14th, 2011 at 12:25 pm
any excuses for Carson Palmer if he doesn’t get it done AT HOME versus Detroit?
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The same excuses will show up … No chemistry with WR/
No offseason / No DMAC / NO Jford/. How bout he sucks and throws more INTS than completions …
December 14th, 2011 at 12:26 pm
Lions have like 6-7 defensive touchdowns to our zero..carson better be careful not too throw any pick 6s….
Great news on mr moore…look forward to some down field threat again…
December 14th, 2011 at 12:26 pm
99.raiderinparadise Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 12:25 pm
A signed Doug Gabriel jersey might be better
How about Doug Jolley?
December 14th, 2011 at 12:26 pm
C’mon Thec
He’s a Raider
lol
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For now…lol
December 14th, 2011 at 12:26 pm
An autographed Blackstock pic.
What address do I send it 2?
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I can use it as my WHITE ELEPHANT gift this year for x-mas !
December 14th, 2011 at 12:27 pm
hwnrdr Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 12:26 pm
99.raiderinparadise Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 12:25 pm
A signed Doug Gabriel jersey might be better
How about Doug Jolley?
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What about that Madsen kid, the TE?
I still remember that TD against the Dischargers
December 14th, 2011 at 12:27 pm
Doug Jolley!? No you didn’t! hahaha
A Jeff Hosteler mustache piece
December 14th, 2011 at 12:28 pm
Wes welker also has 1200 yards…. His drops can be overlooked surly
December 14th, 2011 at 12:29 pm
Blackmamba_20 Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 12:28 pm
Wes welker also has 1200 yards…. His drops can be overlooked surly
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Thats exactly what I’m saying.
Its cool if you drop some passes, as long as you also produce.
December 14th, 2011 at 12:31 pm
I’ll take a Travian Smith jersey instead.
December 14th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
HueKnows Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 12:10 pm
So do we draft another MLB in the second round or do we pray that McClain pans out….this will be interesting to watch play out.
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Didn’t know we had a 2nd rounder.
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We don’t.
Nation, correct me if I’m wrong but I think we’ll get a low 3rd compensatory… maybe two and I think a 4th.
Nnam, Zach, and Gallery.
December 14th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
any excuses for Carson Palmer if he doesn’t get it done AT HOME versus Detroit?
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Not sure who this was directed at, but I wasn’t even making excuses for Carson. My point is how the offensive injuries have hurt the whole team. There is no defending CP on 2 of the 4 picks he threw last week. 2 of them could happen to any qb, he got hit mid-throw and a floater came out and got picked, sh1t happens, and DHB allowed Woodson to run his slant route for him (slants being a timing route where the ball is thrown to a spot not a receiver), but the other 2 were inexcusable. Just another example of some of the bloggers here skewing what is said though.
December 14th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
Thats exactly what I’m saying.
Its cool if you drop some passes, as long as you also produce.
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Yeah sorry i only read one comment and fired off… But your right, dropped catches are forgiven when you also have touchdowns and multiple catches in the same game…
December 14th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
Doesn’t Wes Welker catch like 110 balls a year, probably 175 targets.
By the law of averages, he would HAVE to drop more.
December 14th, 2011 at 12:34 pm
DeuceDeuce Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 12:31 pm
I’ll take a Travian Smith jersey instead.
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I’ll see what I can do.
lol
December 14th, 2011 at 12:34 pm
We will get a 3rd rounder for Nnamdi, but it is unlikely we will get much for Miller (I think the Boss signing will negate that loss) or Gallery. Maybe 6th or 7th rounder
December 14th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
By the law of averages, he would HAVE to drop more.
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True, but he also led the league in the percentage of targets that he dropped.
December 14th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
1st day of the draft is sure to be exciting then…..
December 14th, 2011 at 12:37 pm
107.raiderinparadise Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 12:27 pm
Doug Jolley!? No you didn’t! hahaha
A Jeff Hosteler mustache piece
LOL…better than Courtney Anderson…
December 14th, 2011 at 12:37 pm
# Thec07 Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 11:57 am
inonewordraider Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 11:52 am
Lions pretty bad at run d right? Run the rock!
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Not when facing 8 man fronts. Safeties have been coming up and sticking their nose in the box.
If we get 2 of our 4 burners this is going to open up the box, and create some running lanes.
Put tonga in the game…Cushing was eating us alive and we inserted Tonga andd he man handled cushing…
We will need some really good play calling…
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Word..
The thing about being able to run on DeTwatt is that it is known around the league that Suh can be ‘trapped’..he over pursues, gets caught in no mans land and Boom the RB is behind him..Hopefully we can exploit that weakness, otherwise our guys are going to get Manhandled by this guy trying to pass protect…If they give us the 8-9 man box…DHB needs to break a tackle and Ford and Moore need to get some separation..plain and simple..
Oh and somebody needs to freakin cover this one guy..umm..whats his name…ummm…uhhh..Oh yeah CALVIN JOHNSON!
December 14th, 2011 at 12:37 pm
And as a pre cursor to a great victory sunday….AN ANDRE WARD KNOCKOUT OF CARL FROCH to win the super 6 ……
December 14th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
# LA to TheBay Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
Doesn’t Wes Welker catch like 110 balls a year, probably 175 targets.
By the law of averages, he would HAVE to drop more.
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Guess how many he has dropped this year….wait for it, wait for it….
NONE..
December 14th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
A K.D. Williams skycap hat signed.
Can’t beat that.
December 14th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
Good now can we take moore OFF PUNT RETURN DUTY? i dont mind ford on kick returns, he has done it since college and is very good, plus he isnt one of our top two receivers. But Moore is far to valuable as a receiver to keep risking on punt duty, and he isnt all that good at it.
On another note i hate to do this but, i have to give JFB credit. He predicted that Tebow would be a thorn in our side. Tebow destroyed palmer head to head and now we are looking up at him hoping that he falls off, and gives a shot to get back in it.
December 14th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
ACTUALLY SEEN A GUY IN A-LOT AT GAME VS BEARS WITH A JAMES JETT JERSEY..TRUTH
December 14th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
Possibly a Teyo Johnson also..
December 14th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
Blackmamba_20 Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 12:37 pm
And as a pre cursor to a great victory sunday….AN ANDRE WARD KNOCKOUT OF CARL FROCH to win the super 6 ……
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I can dig it.
Whens the fight?
December 14th, 2011 at 12:42 pm
MikieG Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
# LA to TheBay Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
Doesn’t Wes Welker catch like 110 balls a year, probably 175 targets.
By the law of averages, he would HAVE to drop more.
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Guess how many he has dropped this year….wait for it, wait for it….
NONE..
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He droped a red zone catch in there last game didnt he???
December 14th, 2011 at 12:42 pm
DeuceDeuce Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
Possibly a Teyo Johnson also..
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I can probably find you a Stanford jersey tho.
December 14th, 2011 at 12:42 pm
A K.D. Williams skycap hat signed.
Can’t beat that.
December 14th, 2011 at 12:42 pm
I got dibs on an Echemandu jersey!!…
I actually thought this kid had something in the pre-season games I saw him in…
December 14th, 2011 at 12:42 pm
125.DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
ACTUALLY SEEN A GUY IN A-LOT AT GAME VS BEARS WITH A JAMES JETT JERSEY..TRUTH
Saw that too…but what’s up with those guys wearing the JaMarcus jerseys???
December 14th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
Goooooo Lakers!
December 14th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
# Blackmamba_20 Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 12:42 pm
MikieG Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
# LA to TheBay Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
Doesn’t Wes Welker catch like 110 balls a year, probably 175 targets.
By the law of averages, he would HAVE to drop more.
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Guess how many he has dropped this year….wait for it, wait for it….
NONE..
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He droped a red zone catch in there last game didnt he???
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Perhaps he did..I didn’t see it, but up until their Last Monday night game Phil Sims said he hadn’t had a drop all year and he had 11 last year. He may have 1 now…pretty insane.
December 14th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
DMAC Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
Blackmamba_20 Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 12:37 pm
And as a pre cursor to a great victory sunday….AN ANDRE WARD KNOCKOUT OF CARL FROCH to win the super 6 ……
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I can dig it.
Whens the fight?
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Saturday At 9 alantic city…. Should be good, ward to stay unbeaten…
December 14th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
Ok, darnit, I’ll give you a Rickey Dudley whatevers…lol
December 14th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
JoshDubowAP Josh Dubow
by JDJohnDickinson
#Raiders have given opponents 45 first downs on penalties … 4th most since merger. ‘98 Chiefs had most with 56
4 minutes ago
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OUCH!
December 14th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
No idea how you can wear a JaMArcus Russell jersey. Those aren’t raider fans, they are clueless people, that play with action-figures in their free time.
December 14th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
On another note i hate to do this but, i have to give JFB credit. He predicted that Tebow would be a thorn in our side. Tebow destroyed palmer head to head and now we are looking up at him hoping that he falls off, and gives a shot to get back in it.
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Mistic is trying his hand at a backhanded compliment. The whole post was about how bad you think Palmer is for us. You can careless about JFB’s prediction. C’mon admit it. CP3>JC. Fact.
December 14th, 2011 at 12:45 pm
138.raiderinparadise Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
No idea how you can wear a JaMArcus Russell jersey. Those aren’t raider fans, they are clueless people, that play with action-figures in their free time.
I’ve seen them 3 times this year…lol, but I feel ya!
December 14th, 2011 at 12:45 pm
# DMAC Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
JoshDubowAP Josh Dubow
by JDJohnDickinson
#Raiders have given opponents 45 first downs on penalties … 4th most since merger. ‘98 Chiefs had most with 56
4 minutes ago
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OUCH!
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Yeah, that feels about right…
December 14th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
@mikieg
Phenominal really… QB accuracy would help too, but that is impressive
December 14th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
Does JaCarson wear the number 3 because that’s how many INTS a game he throws ?
December 14th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
Or a Rob Fredrickson Jersey. My treat.
December 14th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
Oh and Mistic,
JC aint coming back to Oakland. You can start your “legend of the JC” myth book any time you want. Dude is done in Oakland whether you want to admit that or not. Can’t wait to see you root for him in another city next year.
December 14th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
hwnrdr Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 12:42 pm
125.DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
ACTUALLY SEEN A GUY IN A-LOT AT GAME VS BEARS WITH A JAMES JETT JERSEY..TRUTH
Saw that too…but what’s up with those guys wearing the JaMarcus jerseys???
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Hwnrdr,
What about that big azz dude w/ the mask on. He had the Russell jersey on 2. People wanted to say something, but dude was huge.
Did you see him?
December 14th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
This the best news of the morning..
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Paul Gutierrez@PGutierrezCSN
Moore fielded punts then ran routes and caught passes with receivers group
10:29 AM, Dec 14th
December 14th, 2011 at 12:47 pm
# Blackmamba_20 Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
@mikieg
Phenominal really… QB accuracy would help too, but that is impressive
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Very, considering the number of Targets this guy gets..incredible.
December 14th, 2011 at 12:47 pm
C’mon admit it. CP3>JC. Fact.
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We will miss the playoffs because of JaCarson ! FACT !
December 14th, 2011 at 12:47 pm
I’d have to say that the worse is during the Patriots game, there was a guy with a Brady jersey on, with his family of Raider fans…then the very next week, I saw that mofo with a Tim Brown jersey…that is a big WTF?
December 14th, 2011 at 12:48 pm
@143
Ohhh too funny…
He needs to cut that out this sunday…
December 14th, 2011 at 12:48 pm
DMAC…yeah I seen that guy too…I think he does it on purpose!
December 14th, 2011 at 12:48 pm
# Jesus Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 12:47 pm
C’mon admit it. CP3>JC. Fact.
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We will miss the playoffs because of JaCarson ! FACT !
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You are a bright individual…FICTION!
December 14th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
James Trapp Jersey
December 14th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
If Stanford Routt really thinks he deserves to go to the Pro Bowl, he should be begging, begging to cover Calvin Johnson the WHOLE F-ing game.
December 14th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
Last jersey I ever purchased was a Nap Kaufman.
I think he retired the next season.
December 14th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
You are a bright individual…FICTION
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When Tebow wins the division ,will you still be up on JaCarsons jock ? How bout when we lose to SD and they end up having a better record than us ?
December 14th, 2011 at 12:52 pm
LEGENDS JERSEY IS ONLY WAY 2 GO IMHO
December 14th, 2011 at 12:52 pm
Last jersey I ever purchased was a Nap Kaufman.
I think he retired the next season.
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C’Mon I know you have a Stuey Schwag Jersey?
December 14th, 2011 at 12:52 pm
Why would you say that???
Fck some dudes swim in misery and worst case scenarios….
December 14th, 2011 at 12:52 pm
“Mistic is trying his hand at a backhanded compliment. The whole post was about how bad you think Palmer is for us. You can careless about JFB’s prediction. C’mon admit it. CP3>JC. Fact.”
Yeah I saw that too I was going to give the old goat a pass because it looked like he was actually going to post a comment about something other than JC and or Palmer but he got snuck it there anyways.
December 14th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
We will miss the playoffs because of JaCarson ! FACT !
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Wrong. If we miss the playoff, then it will be because of our D or lack there of. FACT.
Under JC, our D gave up 38 and 31 points in those 2 losses.
Since then, our D gave up 28, 38, 34, and 46 points in those losses.
FACT.
December 14th, 2011 at 12:54 pm
Fck some dudes swim in misery and worst case scenarios….
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I know Im a downer … Sorry guys … LOL
December 14th, 2011 at 12:54 pm
DR MATT
DMC is having AQUA Therapy with the training staff at an off site location . Given his weight and the demands of the game he will most likely miss two more games if there are no setbacks .With injuries like this comming back when the player still has even minimal pain with full weight bearing and cutting is contraindicated .But I expect to see him at least by the San Diego game or first playoff game if the Raiders make them .
December 14th, 2011 at 12:54 pm
# aig-raiders Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
On another note i hate to do this but, i have to give JFB credit. He predicted that Tebow would be a thorn in our side. Tebow destroyed palmer head to head and now we are looking up at him hoping that he falls off, and gives a shot to get back in it.
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Mistic is trying his hand at a backhanded compliment. The whole post was about how bad you think Palmer is for us. You can careless about JFB’s prediction. C’mon admit it. CP3>JC. Fact.
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Aig still groggy from all of those beat downs you suffered at Jc’s hands over the last year and a half I see.
No dude, it isnt a compliment, it simply true. JFB said tebow would be someone to contend with. I among others laughed, but it has proven true this year… well since our season went into the dumpster at least.
Unlike you i have no issue admitting when someone else is right and i was wrong.
December 14th, 2011 at 12:54 pm
CP3 & the o-line are wearing down. FACT
December 14th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
“C’mon admit it. CP3>JC. Fact.
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We will miss the playoffs because of JaCarson ! FACT !”
You call yourself a Raider fan and you are predicting we lose games because of one single player?
Go root for the 49ers tard get out of here!
December 14th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
Carson Palmer stating QB for your 2012 Oakland Raiders —- FACT
JC on another team —– FACT
December 14th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
FACT. FACT.
December 14th, 2011 at 12:57 pm
Unlike you i have no issue admitting when someone else is right and i was wrong.
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Actually the Palmer trade is all your fault. If you didn’t give Hue such a ringing endorsement of Boller as the backup QB, we would have gotten a legit backup and never needed JaCarson.
December 14th, 2011 at 12:57 pm
# Silverandblack666 Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 12:52 pm
“Mistic is trying his hand at a backhanded compliment. The whole post was about how bad you think Palmer is for us. You can careless about JFB’s prediction. C’mon admit it. CP3>JC. Fact.”
Yeah I saw that too I was going to give the old goat a pass because it looked like he was actually going to post a comment about something other than JC and or Palmer but he got snuck it there anyways.
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slitherin’crap,
Jc beat orton, he didnt play tebow. tebow beat palmer in an absolute laugher. That is documented history, and has nothing to do with differing opinions on the raider qb quagmire.
December 14th, 2011 at 12:57 pm
“No dude, it isnt a compliment, it simply true. JFB said tebow would be someone to contend with. I among others laughed, but it has proven true this year… well since our season went into the dumpster at least.”
And I told you that Andy Dalton would be good and you laughed…now ANDY DALTON OWNS YOU!!!!
Not sure what he is going to do with your old mentally retarded ass but he owns you.
December 14th, 2011 at 12:58 pm
I AGREE,U JUST HAVE 2 STARE AT THE PEOPLE WEARING #2 JERSEYS AND WONDER.YES THE PAID GOOD MONEY,BUT…
December 14th, 2011 at 12:58 pm
Cant wait to watch the ESPN 30 for 30 on JaMarcus Russell in 6 years..
December 14th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
Beatdowns at JC hands last year? We finished 8-8. 7-5 with him as the starter. It wasn’t enough
December 14th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
Go root for the 49ers tard get out of here!
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I AM actually not a blind fan like yourself. I see the flaws of our team and acknowledge them. I would love to eat a lot of CROW this sunday !FACT
December 14th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
“Jc beat orton, he didnt play tebow. tebow beat palmer in an absolute laugher.”
Using your own style of demented logic….so if Denver beats New England then you say Tebow is better than Brady.
First off there are 53 guys on an NFL team you inbreed douche not one but 53 can you count?
December 14th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
Mistic,
Yeah, I know…I know….
Those beat downs by JC’s….wow…btw, what were they again?
In case you missed, the JC train left Oakland already. Your boy Hue Jack saw to it. Cry me a river if you want. So will you pick JC or Hue?
December 14th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
We will miss the playoffs because of JaCarson ! FACT !
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The only way you can say that Carson Palmer is the REASON we don’t make the playoffs is if you believe that Kyle Boller would have gotten us there. Otherwise that comment holds no water. Carson Palmer is the only reason we are still in contention.
Comparing Palmer to Campbell is all fun and games and everyone has an opinion, but at the end of the day, Campbell isn’t healthy and can’t play so it doesn’t matter.
December 14th, 2011 at 1:01 pm
The number 00 worn by Jim Otto is no longer allowed in the NFL.
FACT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 14th, 2011 at 1:01 pm
Jc beat orton, he didnt play tebow. tebow beat palmer in an absolute laugher.
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Mist, then by your logic….Alex Smith OWNED JC. Correct?
December 14th, 2011 at 1:01 pm
Lunch time fellas …. FACT !
December 14th, 2011 at 1:02 pm
# aig-raiders Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
Oh and Mistic,
JC aint coming back to Oakland. You can start your “legend of the JC” myth book any time you want. Dude is done in Oakland whether you want to admit that or not. Can’t wait to see you root for him in another city next year.
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he probably wont, why should he? Palmer hasnt even come close to what Jc did in a raider uniform, so unless they made palmer his back up he should leave.
As of this moment his stock is through the roof, and he will be highly sought after and one of the top fa qb’s on the market. It isnt lost on gms’ around the leauge what he did to restore our team. He whipped this team into shape and made them winners. he goes down and blow out losses ensue.
It means nothing to you, but dont think it is unnoticed by teams who need a qb
December 14th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
“I AM actually not a blind fan like yourself. I see the flaws of our team and acknowledge them. I would love to eat a lot of CROW this sunday !FACT”
Yes you are blind but also deaf and dumb!
You can hate the QB all you want but he will be your starter next year so get in line with it.
December 14th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
and JaMarcus Russell owned Brett Favre??..
December 14th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
Mistic,
I was one of the guys on here in the off season wanting to trade for Tebow. Do I get any credit? I have been more than consistent in my value for QB’s that carried their teams in college. BTW, JC didnt at Auburn. So what prize do I get?
December 14th, 2011 at 1:05 pm
As of this moment his stock is through the roof, and he will be highly sought after and one of the top fa qb’s on the market.
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So we will get at least a 3rd comp pick. Hope you are right!
December 14th, 2011 at 1:05 pm
Hey, NEWS FLASH to you all who want to talk JC including me , LOL. HE WILL NOT RETURN, NOT TO COMPETE, NOT TO START, NO TO BE THE BACKUP. WHO CARES!!!!
December 14th, 2011 at 1:05 pm
McFadden 2010 and start of 2011 play made Jason Campbell a decent looking QB. Get real.
December 14th, 2011 at 1:05 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
“Jc beat orton, he didnt play tebow. tebow beat palmer in an absolute laugher.”
Using your own style of demented logic….so if Denver beats New England then you say Tebow is better than Brady.
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slitherin’crap
What are you smoking, i didnt say tebow was better than palmer, but by comparison, tebow is 7 and 1 and has only 2 or 3 ints. he is managing the game and winning.
Our qb has been hurricane of boneheaded picks, and has been blown out in 4 losses he has played in. 14 turnovers in 6 1/2 games?!?!?!
advantage tebow
December 14th, 2011 at 1:06 pm
Need big john…but he will come and play…tough guy
December 14th, 2011 at 1:06 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:06 pm
Need big john…but he will come and play…tough guy
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He isnt very useful against passing teams from a pressure stand point.
But man can he bat a ball down.
December 14th, 2011 at 1:07 pm
“He whipped this team into shape and made them winners.”
yeah because Hue Jackson was on vacation!
What kind of logic is that are you seriously that demented?
December 14th, 2011 at 1:07 pm
Mistic, I have one question, that I think you above anyone will know the answer to. How many games did Campbell win without McFadden in the lineup?
December 14th, 2011 at 1:07 pm
175.baumraiders Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
Beatdowns at JC hands last year? We finished 8-8. 7-5 with him as the starter. It wasn’t enough
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yeah thats becuz of coaches blunder….we went 1-3 without him…he never should have been benched…we make playoffs in 2010 at 10-6 if they didnt….but its 2011 now
December 14th, 2011 at 1:08 pm
If JC is playing against us, and CP for us in a game, I wonder who will mistic be rooting for. HM
December 14th, 2011 at 1:08 pm
195. NO EXCUSES right?
December 14th, 2011 at 1:10 pm
Our qb has been hurricane of boneheaded picks, and has been blown out in 4 losses he has played in. 14 turnovers in 6 1/2 games?!?!?!
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Really? You are willing to count the KC game on Palmers resume? Not even the most AVID Palmer haters will hold that one on his head, he was with the team for 4 days. FOUR DAYS. Come one man, you are better than that.
December 14th, 2011 at 1:10 pm
He was benched because he was playing very bad.
December 14th, 2011 at 1:12 pm
# aig-raiders Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
Mistic,
Yeah, I know…I know….
Those beat downs by JC’s….wow…btw, what were they again?
In case you missed, the JC train left Oakland already. Your boy Hue Jack saw to it. Cry me a river if you want. So will you pick JC or Hue?
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what a fool
Where ever Jc goes, I will root for him. he is a fantastic player, and he fits oakland well. he is blue collar a herd worker and proved that he can lead a team and make them winners. Even take a team that was a complete laughing stock before his arrival and make them feared. i will always appreciate what he has done for us, as his body of work to this point is unsupassed by anyone since gannon.
Of course Im rooting for hu jack, I wanted him as head coach last year, and still do now. he coaches my team, so i will root for him. there arent many black head coaches in sports, and everything he does is unfairly scrutinized. i dont think he is a very good gm, but he wasnt hired to be, so i give him a pass for any mistakes he has made in that area. This includes screwing up the qb spot
December 14th, 2011 at 1:13 pm
so now that Palmer is getting 100% of the blame for our 2 losses then the same can be said for our wins.
When we win on Sunday it will be because of Palmer and I guarantee you old fart breath mistyeyes will be nowhere to be found.
Who want to bet me?
December 14th, 2011 at 1:13 pm
As of this moment his stock is through the roof, and he will be highly sought after and one of the top fa qb’s on the market. It isnt lost on gms’ around the leauge what he did to restore our team. He whipped this team into shape and made them winners. he goes down and blow out losses ensue.
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Mistic,
does a 31-19 loss to NE consider a blowout loss as well? BTW, that was under JC’s stewardship at QB. I dont remember that game being close at all after JC gifted the ball to Patrick Chung. That game was 31-13 and JC scored a garbage TD at 0:28 seconds to make it 31-19.
But tell you what. I’ll remind you when the offseason and FA begin. Let’s see if the rest of the league thinks as highly of JC as you do. I know they dont.
December 14th, 2011 at 1:13 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:12 pm
# aig-raiders Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
Mistic,
Yeah, I know…I know….
Those beat downs by JC’s….wow…btw, what were they again?
In case you missed, the JC train left Oakland already. Your boy Hue Jack saw to it. Cry me a river if you want. So will you pick JC or Hue?
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what a fool
Where ever Jc goes, I will root for him. he is a fantastic player, and he fits oakland well. he is blue collar a herd worker and proved that he can lead a team and make them winners. Even take a team that was a complete laughing stock before his arrival and make them feared. i will always appreciate what he has done for us, as his body of work to this point is unsupassed by anyone since gannon.
Of course Im rooting for hu jack, I wanted him as head coach last year, and still do now. he coaches my team, so i will root for him. there arent many black head coaches in sports, and everything he does is unfairly scrutinized. i dont think he is a very good gm, but he wasnt hired to be, so i give him a pass for any mistakes he has made in that area. This includes screwing up the qb spot
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Will you root for him if he is playing against us?? Mistic
December 14th, 2011 at 1:14 pm
DeuceDeuce Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:06 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:06 pm
Need big john…but he will come and play…tough guy
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He isnt very useful against passing teams from a pressure stand point.
But man can he bat a ball down.
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Houston game was won by Big John
December 14th, 2011 at 1:14 pm
192.DeuceDeuce Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:06 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:06 pm
Need big john…but he will come and play…tough guy
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He isnt very useful against passing teams from a pressure stand point.
But man can he bat a ball down.
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better than what seymour is giving you…a NT shouldnt be a pass rusher my friend…dont u know that?
December 14th, 2011 at 1:14 pm
Aig-Raiders Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:13 pm
As of this moment his stock is through the roof, and he will be highly sought after and one of the top fa qb’s on the market. It isnt lost on gms’ around the leauge what he did to restore our team. He whipped this team into shape and made them winners. he goes down and blow out losses ensue.
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Mistic,
does a 31-19 loss to NE consider a blowout loss as well? BTW, that was under JC’s stewardship at QB. I dont remember that game being close at all after JC gifted the ball to Patrick Chung. That game was 31-13 and JC scored a garbage TD at 0:28 seconds to make it 31-19.
But tell you what. I’ll remind you when the offseason and FA begin. Let’s see if the rest of the league thinks as highly of JC as you do. I know they don’t.
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What about the handoff to Vince Wilfork??
December 14th, 2011 at 1:14 pm
Beatdowns at JC hands last year? We finished 8-8. 7-5 with him as the starter. It wasn’t enough
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yeah thats becuz of coaches blunder….we went 1-3 without him…he never should have been benched…we make playoffs in 2010 at 10-6 if they didnt….but its 2011 now
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Really? It seems JC should have not been the starter at the beginning of the year. JC did not know the playbook and admitted to it right after the Fairy niner game (Maybe he was hurt?). JC looked like a different player before and after the benching. Grads should have started, would have gotten hurt and JC could have come into the lineup as a F-ing hero.
December 14th, 2011 at 1:15 pm
# Silverandblack666 Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:07 pm
“He whipped this team into shape and made them winners.”
yeah because Hue Jackson was on vacation!
What kind of logic is that are you seriously that demented?
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no fool there was a lockout, coaches were not permitted contact with the players. Maybe you didnt know that Jc hosted the wr group at his home so they could all improve. or maybe you wernt aware of the camp he and big rich held.
Jc’s contribution shouldnt be swept under the rug, no matter how difficult it may be to quantify or how difficult it is for you to accept.
December 14th, 2011 at 1:15 pm
there arent many black head coaches in sports, and everything he does is unfairly scrutinized. i dont think he is a very good gm, but he wasnt hired to be, so i give him a pass for any mistakes he has made in that area. This includes screwing up the qb spot
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Mistic
If there is one thing, you are very consistent.
1. Play the Black race card.
2. Make excuses.
December 14th, 2011 at 1:15 pm
“yeah thats becuz of coaches blunder….we went 1-3 without him…he never should have been benched…we make playoffs in 2010 at 10-6 if they didnt….but its 2011 now”
Ok I get it when JC loses its the coaches fault but when we lose a game with Palmer at QB its all Palmer’s fault.
Now I see how this works.
December 14th, 2011 at 1:16 pm
197.baumraiders Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:08 pm
195. NO EXCUSES right?
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No excuse for the coaching staff to do that….but the no excuses thing started in summer 2011…go back to archives…reason being becuz we made a step in 2010 now the next step is postseason…thanks
December 14th, 2011 at 1:16 pm
“Where ever Jc goes, I will root for him. he is a fantastic player, and he fits oakland well. he is blue collar a herd worker and proved that he can lead a team and make them winners.”
Like he did in Washington which is why they shipped him out of town and are now going with Rex Grossman!
December 14th, 2011 at 1:16 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:14 pm
192.DeuceDeuce Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:06 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:06 pm
Need big john…but he will come and play…tough guy
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He isnt very useful against passing teams from a pressure stand point.
But man can he bat a ball down.
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better than what seymour is giving you…a NT shouldnt be a pass rusher my friend…dont u know that?
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Yea but he isnt moving good at all the past few weeks, hence me saying he offers nothing in pressure.
December 14th, 2011 at 1:17 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:13 pm
so now that Palmer is getting 100% of the blame for our 2 losses then the same can be said for our wins.
When we win on Sunday it will be because of Palmer and I guarantee you old fart breath mistyeyes will be nowhere to be found.
Who want to bet me?
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Not I.
December 14th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
210.Silverandblack666 Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:15 pm
“yeah thats becuz of coaches blunder….we went 1-3 without him…he never should have been benched…we make playoffs in 2010 at 10-6 if they didnt….but its 2011 now”
Ok I get it when JC loses its the coaches fault but when we lose a game with Palmer at QB its all Palmer’s fault.
Now I see how this works.
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when did I say that its coaches fault only if we lose with jc? You cant argue against the blunder it was in bringing in Grad for JC…dumb as fk to do it becuz you limited the team and didnt win and it cost you the division…but thats 2010…its 2011 now
And if Palmer is turning it over multiple times in one game hell yeah its his fault…he even admitted that sunday!
December 14th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
“Mistic,
does a 31-19 loss to NE consider a blowout loss as well? BTW, that was under JC’s stewardship at QB. I dont remember that game being close at all after JC gifted the ball to Patrick Chung. That game was 31-13 and JC scored a garbage TD at 0:28 seconds to make it 31-19.”
so if Tebow beats NE he is a better QB than Jason Campbell by you retarded logic.
You see Mystic now you have painted yourself into a corner!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 14th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
he probably wont, why should he? Palmer hasnt even come close to what Jc did in a raider uniform, so unless they made palmer his back up he should leave.
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Doesnt he sound like the coach we just shipped out? “Were not losers anymore”. Is this what JC has done? An 8-8 season?
Appreciate what JC has done…but to say Palmer hasnt gotten close with who hes playing with?!?
Delusional…
December 14th, 2011 at 1:19 pm
# baumraiders Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:14 pm
Aig-Raiders Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:13 pm
As of this moment his stock is through the roof, and he will be highly sought after and one of the top fa qb’s on the market. It isnt lost on gms’ around the leauge what he did to restore our team. He whipped this team into shape and made them winners. he goes down and blow out losses ensue.
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Mistic,
does a 31-19 loss to NE consider a blowout loss as well? BTW, that was under JC’s stewardship at QB. I dont remember that game being close at all after JC gifted the ball to Patrick Chung. That game was 31-13 and JC scored a garbage TD at 0:28 seconds to make it 31-19.
But tell you what. I’ll remind you when the offseason and FA begin. Let’s see if the rest of the league thinks as highly of JC as you do. I know they don’t.
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What about the handoff to Vince Wilfork??
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i dont know how we went from tebow to Jc, but two picks in a game ca happen to any qb on an off day. There arent very many multi interception games in jc’s career though. he is a very smart player with very good skills. HE CERTAINLY HAS NEVER HAD 3 GAMES IN A 61/2 GAME SPAN WITH AT LEAST 3 PICKS WITH 2 RETURNED FOR TDS! HE HAS NEVER HAD A 26 PICKS IN ONE YEAR WITH 6 RETURNED FOR TDS EITHER.
Im willing to look past one or 2 rough games in a season, it is after all the nfl
December 14th, 2011 at 1:19 pm
213.DeuceDeuce Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:16 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:14 pm
192.DeuceDeuce Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:06 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:06 pm
Need big john…but he will come and play…tough guy
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He isnt very useful against passing teams from a pressure stand point.
But man can he bat a ball down.
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better than what seymour is giving you…a NT shouldnt be a pass rusher my friend…dont u know that?
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Yea but he isnt moving good at all the past few weeks, hence me saying he offers nothing in pressure.
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Man he has gotten closer and hit a QB than Seymour has in months…this is fact and fk seymour until he plays good ..if ever again
December 14th, 2011 at 1:20 pm
Mistic, you are usually very quick to jump on my posts because I don’t know maybe you have a lot of respect for me and love to try to prove me wrong to boost your own ego, but tell me, How many games did Jason Campbell win when our undisputed best offensive player Darren McFadden was not in the lineup?
December 14th, 2011 at 1:20 pm
i hate to do this but, i have to give JFB credit. He predicted that Tebow would be a thorn in our side. Tebow destroyed palmer head to head and now we are looking up at him hoping that he falls off, and gives a shot to get back in it.
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only JFB gets credit for predicting Tebow’s success?
REALLY?!?!?!?!?!?!
December 14th, 2011 at 1:20 pm
Best play of the year was JC handoff to Vince Wilfork
December 14th, 2011 at 1:20 pm
# Silverandblack666 Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
“Mistic,
does a 31-19 loss to NE consider a blowout loss as well? BTW, that was under JC’s stewardship at QB. I dont remember that game being close at all after JC gifted the ball to Patrick Chung. That game was 31-13 and JC scored a garbage TD at 0:28 seconds to make it 31-19.”
so if Tebow beats NE he is a better QB than Jason Campbell by you retarded logic.
You see Mystic now you have painted yourself into a corner!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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love how you are trying to speak for me, but no.
right now tebow is out performing palmer, this is why you are upset.
December 14th, 2011 at 1:21 pm
Doesnt he sound like the coach we just shipped out? “Were not losers anymore”. Is this what JC has done? An 8-8 season?
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7-5 with 4 games stolen becuz the coaches are dumb fks
December 14th, 2011 at 1:21 pm
How is JC a winner?
Career record 31-39
December 14th, 2011 at 1:21 pm
222.baumraiders Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:20 pm
Best play of the year was JC handoff to Vince Wilfork
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like Palmer’s handoff early vs GB?
December 14th, 2011 at 1:22 pm
“And if Palmer is turning it over multiple times in one game hell yeah its his fault…he even admitted that sunday!”
I get that and I agree but you need to consider that teams have won games in which they have turned the ball over 3 or 4 times but never has a team won a game when it has given up over 200 yards rushing.
So yeah Palmer manned up and took the blame for the 4 picks that’s cool and all but there are more problems on this team than the QB position right now.
December 14th, 2011 at 1:22 pm
222.baumraiders Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:20 pm
Best play of the year was JC handoff to Vince Wilfork
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JC and his WTF plays….
We need to make a top ten list…
1. Chung gift against NE
2. ?
December 14th, 2011 at 1:22 pm
Acutally Carson Palmer is a loser at 49-54 hahaha, and JC at 31-39
December 14th, 2011 at 1:23 pm
JC nor Palmer are winners….case closed until further notice
December 14th, 2011 at 1:23 pm
228.ElkGRaider Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:22 pm
222.baumraiders Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:20 pm
Best play of the year was JC handoff to Vince Wilfork
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JC and his WTF plays….
We need to make a top ten list…
1. Chung gift against NE
2. ?
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Palmer already got 10 in such a short time lol
December 14th, 2011 at 1:23 pm
ElkGRaider Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:22 pm
222.baumraiders Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:20 pm
Best play of the year was JC handoff to Vince Wilfork
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JC and his WTF plays….
We need to make a top ten list…
1. Chung gift against NE
2. Vince Wilfork handoff
3. Slide vs Titans week 1 2010
4. Slide fumble vs Browns 2011
December 14th, 2011 at 1:23 pm
Hey Mistic,
Does a 38-13 loss in Tenn count as a blow out under JC as well?
Oh and we won 10 games with JC as the QB during the last 2 years here. 10-7. Can you point out to how many of those 10 wins JC carried the team? I know other GMs in this league have got to be much better than me at seeing the numbers and dissecting them. I can’t remember any 1 game where JC was the biggest contributor to us winning in those 10 games.
December 14th, 2011 at 1:24 pm
# bcz24 Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:20 pm
Mistic, you are usually very quick to jump on my posts because I don’t know maybe you have a lot of respect for me and love to try to prove me wrong to boost your own ego, but tell me, How many games did Jason Campbell win when our undisputed best offensive player Darren McFadden was not in the lineup?
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there is no doubt that dmac is the super star of the offense, however he isnt reliable enough to be the back bone of the team, and jc was the captain.
im not certain off hand but i think there were at least two games we won with out dmac. may have been one charger game and one chief game.
i strongly disagree that a qb needs a running back of dmac caliber to have success or win games though.
hell even jamarcuss won a game or two with fargass
December 14th, 2011 at 1:24 pm
ethod To My Madness Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:23 pm
JC nor Palmer are winners….case closed until further notice
READ 229
December 14th, 2011 at 1:25 pm
220.bcz24 Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:20 pm
Mistic, you are usually very quick to jump on my posts because I don’t know maybe you have a lot of respect for me and love to try to prove me wrong to boost your own ego, but tell me, How many games did Jason Campbell win when our undisputed best offensive player Darren McFadden was not in the lineup?
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KC and 1st SD game coming in the clutch
December 14th, 2011 at 1:25 pm
“Mistic, you are usually very quick to jump on my posts because I don’t know maybe you have a lot of respect for me and love to try to prove me wrong to boost your own ego, but tell me, How many games did Jason Campbell win when our undisputed best offensive player Darren McFadden was not in the lineup?”
He wont answer that question and you know he wont.
Just like he painted himself into a corner with his Tebow is better than Palmer crap.
December 14th, 2011 at 1:25 pm
I want Boar Hunters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 14th, 2011 at 1:25 pm
235.baumraiders Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:24 pm
ethod To My Madness Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:23 pm
JC nor Palmer are winners….case closed until further notice
READ 229
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jcat you see what time i posted that…it was directly after yours…be serious
December 14th, 2011 at 1:25 pm
# baumraiders Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:23 pm
ElkGRaider Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:22 pm
222.baumraiders Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:20 pm
Best play of the year was JC handoff to Vince Wilfork
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JC and his WTF plays….
We need to make a top ten list…
1. Chung gift against NE
2. Vince Wilfork handoff
3. Slide vs Titans week 1 2010
4. Slide fumble vs Browns 2011
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Yes but he had 13-7 record in his time here, so ill take it.
your new qb has 3 times the “wtf” moments in a third of the game time
whats your point
December 14th, 2011 at 1:26 pm
“222.baumraiders Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:20 pm
Best play of the year was JC handoff to Vince Wilfork
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like Palmer’s handoff early vs GB?”
Good point so as you can see QB’s make mistakes those are very similar comparisons (both QB’s would say they used bad judgement on those plays)
December 14th, 2011 at 1:26 pm
JDJohnDickinson John Dickinson
Coach Jackson said, he didn’t want to push Moore too hard today. He was limited at practice #Raiders @957thegame
3 minutes ago
December 14th, 2011 at 1:26 pm
# Silverandblack666 Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:25 pm
“Mistic, you are usually very quick to jump on my posts because I don’t know maybe you have a lot of respect for me and love to try to prove me wrong to boost your own ego, but tell me, How many games did Jason Campbell win when our undisputed best offensive player Darren McFadden was not in the lineup?”
He wont answer that question and you know he wont.
Just like he painted himself into a corner with his Tebow is better than Palmer crap.
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post 234 dim wit
December 14th, 2011 at 1:26 pm
Carson Palmer aint carried the Raiders yet his damn self so whats the deal with all this carry schit? You fkin Palmer clit lickers said he can carry a team without the run game…well aint happen yet you fkin liars
December 14th, 2011 at 1:26 pm
JDJohnDickinson John Dickinson
Coach Jackson says Moore’s return could provide a spark for the team #Raiders @957thegame
2 minutes ago
December 14th, 2011 at 1:27 pm
How many games did Jason Campbell win when our undisputed best offensive player Darren McFadden was not in the lineup?
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Heck no. We won 10 games with JC playing the majority of the snaps at QB. I dare Mistic to point out 1 game where JC was the best contributor of that day. He can’t. I guarantee you that.
December 14th, 2011 at 1:27 pm
The Packers had 30 pts early in the 2nd qtr.
Does it really matter who the QB was????
December 14th, 2011 at 1:27 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:25 pm
235.baumraiders Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:24 pm
ethod To My Madness Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:23 pm
JC nor Palmer are winners….case closed until further notice
READ 229
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jcat you see what time i posted that…it was directly after yours…be serious
You are right, sorry bout that one
December 14th, 2011 at 1:28 pm
“Yes but he had 13-7 record in his time here, so ill take it.”
11-7
December 14th, 2011 at 1:28 pm
So now we choose the stats that fit our arguments. You said JC was a winner since forever. 31-39
December 14th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
Meanwhile …
Lakers sign white man who can jump!!!!
Who will be the first W posterized????
December 14th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:28 pm
“Yes but he had 13-7 record in his time here, so ill take it.”
11-7
Baumraiders Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:28 pm
So now we choose the stats that fit our arguments. You said JC was a winner since forever. 31-39
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31-39 FACT, CASE CLOSED, THE END.
December 14th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
JC’s record was 11-7….not 10-7…those who are saying otherwise are liars…and we know who a big liar is on this blog when it comes to the JC.Palmer debate
December 14th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
right now tebow is out performing palmer, this is why you are upset.
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Palmer – 123 – 219 56.2% 1,730 yards 9TD 13INTs 2 fumbles
Tebow – 96 – 198 48.5% 1,290 yards 11TD 2 INTs 8 fumbles
Looks pretty close, and tebow has 2 years in the offense, palmer has 7 weeks.
Think it would be fair to that all things being equal (just the defensive play really) they would have very similar W-L records. So it isn’t really fair to say Tebow is out performing palmer
December 14th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
“Carson Palmer aint carried the Raiders yet his damn self ”
Go watch the San Diego game again.
December 14th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
251.J Hill Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
Meanwhile …
Lakers sign white man who can jump!!!!
Who will be the first W posterized????
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Kwame Brown…a former phaggot Laker
December 14th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
Yes but he had 13-7 record in his time here, so ill take it.
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LMFAO….13 wins under JC???? hahahahahahahahah talking about propaganda. I told you guys these JC loyalists will SUPERSIZE his contributions here.
December 14th, 2011 at 1:30 pm
255.Silverandblack666 Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
“Carson Palmer aint carried the Raiders yet his damn self ”
Go watch the San Diego game again.
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Run game with Tonga lead blocking for Bush did that…Palmer passed 20 times total…thats not carrying a team…try again my ginger headed friend lol
December 14th, 2011 at 1:30 pm
“and we know who a big liar is on this blog when it comes to the JC.Palmer debate”
yes we do his name is Mystic1 the stupid villan
December 14th, 2011 at 1:30 pm
J Hill Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
Meanwhile …
Lakers sign white man who can jump!!!!
Who will be the first W posterized????
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Who they sign?
Brent Berry?
December 14th, 2011 at 1:30 pm
Mistic comes in here and all of a sudden the topic is Campbell again.
LOL.
December 14th, 2011 at 1:31 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:26 pm
Carson Palmer aint carried the Raiders yet his damn self so whats the deal with all this carry schit? You fkin Palmer clit lickers said he can carry a team without the run game…well aint happen yet you fkin liars
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Very True, there are many factors to it, BUT no excuses.
I agree. But Palmer has a 98 QBR in wins and %% in losses. Both of those ratings are well documented to coincide with the run game. He needs it, our line needs it and our WRs need then run game… all of em.
December 14th, 2011 at 1:31 pm
Where’d you go Rock?
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BCZ,
relax man. seriously. you know that I blog from work and work comes first. You get pretty riled up over our meaningless debates and take things WAY too personally
Anyways, yes. I was and still am a fan of Jason Campbell. I never said he was “awesome” in fact I wouldn’t project him a Top 20 QB in this league. He never has been. Carson Palmer was at one time. Who knows if we’ll be able to squeeze 2 or 3 good years out of him? I didn’t expect him to come off the couch and dominate. I expected him to struggle early, manage the games and rely heavily on the run (like JCamp) and put this team on his shoulders and will it to victory eventually. Maybe he’s not there yet? But i’m not blaming his teammates or making excuses for injuries. Neither are Jackson & Palmer – just a handful of Raider fans, such as yourself. If Carson Palmer is healthy and has a full grasp of the offense I expect him to play better than Jason Campbell 10 times out of 10, however, I realize that he’s a gunslinger like Favre & Cutler who can have 4 TD’s in a 30 point win one week and 4 INT’s in a 30 point loss the next. If Hue mandates that he stop taking so many chances with the balls he throws and we start seeing a more conservative player, his game might eventually mirror Campbell’s – which is odd. If that’s the case we’ve wasted two high picks on 75% of one NFL season. not buying it. Hue Jax will continue to let Palmer do his thing and trusts that he’ll win out and give us a shot at the playoffs
December 14th, 2011 at 1:31 pm
aig-raiders Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:23 pm
Hey Mistic,
Does a 38-13 loss in Tenn count as a blow out under JC as well?
Oh and we won 10 games with JC as the QB during the last 2 years here. 10-7.
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actually he won 11 games he started and saved one from grads for 12.
why does this bother you
December 14th, 2011 at 1:32 pm
Facts are JC led team to 4-2 this season….Palmer 3-3 with three big games coming up….I’m pulling for him to not turn it over and not throw over 25 times to be 6-3 as starter this season
December 14th, 2011 at 1:32 pm
JC’s record was 11-7….not 10-7…those who are saying otherwise are liars
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Prove it. I want to see the blog laugh its rears off when you post the 11th win. They already did once and I want to see it again.
December 14th, 2011 at 1:32 pm
Go watch the San Diego game again.
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Oline won that game.
December 14th, 2011 at 1:32 pm
“Palmer passed 20 times total”
for 300 yards and 2 TD’s I am pretty sure that is a good contribution from any perspective.
December 14th, 2011 at 1:33 pm
259.Silverandblack666 Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:30 pm
“and we know who a big liar is on this blog when it comes to the JC.Palmer debate”
yes we do his name is Mystic1 the stupid villan
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Naw Mistic isnt a coward who got ran off this site and then made some btch ass excuse as to why he wasnt posting
December 14th, 2011 at 1:33 pm
# LA to TheBay Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:30 pm
Mistic comes in here and all of a sudden the topic is Campbell again.
LOL.
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these dudes are truly miserable because i told them JC would win, and beat grads last year. they cant let it go, i wrote about tebow, and they couldnt help themselves
laughable, but pathetic
December 14th, 2011 at 1:33 pm
actually he won 11 games he started and saved one from grads for 12.
why does this bother you
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Becuase you are a liar. You went from 13-7 to now 11-7. Show me the 11 wins.
December 14th, 2011 at 1:33 pm
To be FAIR, lets judge CP3 when he has a healthy DMAC.
Campbell had a healthy DMAC most of his games.
December 14th, 2011 at 1:34 pm
J Hill Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:32 pm
Go watch the San Diego game again.
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Oline won that game.
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NO!
AC won that game when he layed out McNeal.
Their O-line got abused after that.
December 14th, 2011 at 1:34 pm
Hey everybody, Who will be the starting QB of the 2012 Oakland Raiders and hopefully beyond Train??
C-A-R-S-O-N P-A-L-M-E-R
December 14th, 2011 at 1:34 pm
268.Silverandblack666 Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:32 pm
“Palmer passed 20 times total”
for 300 yards and 2 TD’s I am pretty sure that is a good contribution from any perspective.
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who said he didnt play well minus the turnovers? passing 20 times isnt carrying a team when they rush for 200 damn yards and control the clock like we did…Palmer hasnt carried the team….a qb carrying is when they have to be pass happy or chose to be pass happy….we dont have that luxury
December 14th, 2011 at 1:34 pm
Mistic comes in here and all of a sudden the topic is Campbell again.
LOL.
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Funniest part is his denials of his posts being Glo related.
Always claims you guys are the ones bringing up JC.
I skip past all that stuff now mayne.
December 14th, 2011 at 1:34 pm
I love it when one blogger calling another blogger a COWARD…while hiding behind a screen name…..
December 14th, 2011 at 1:35 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:31 pm
aig-raiders Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:23 pm
Hey Mistic,
Does a 38-13 loss in Tenn count as a blow out under JC as well?
Oh and we won 10 games with JC as the QB during the last 2 years here. 10-7.
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actually he won 11 games he started and saved one from grads for 12.
why does this bother you
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And Gradkowski saved one from Campbell … week 2 vs RAMS thank you
December 14th, 2011 at 1:35 pm
these dudes are truly miserable because i told them JC would win, and beat grads last year. they cant let it go, i wrote about tebow, and they couldnt help themselves
laughable, but pathetic
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After being inserted in the lineup again, Campbell played well. Even better once Grad IRed (not looking over his shoulder).
Technically, Grad got injured. If anything, Grad beat out Campbell for the job twice.
Did he play better? Nope, outside of 2 games.
But just figured I would ease the propaganda a bit.
December 14th, 2011 at 1:35 pm
If Palmer wins the last 3 games and ends up 6-3 this will all be forgotten.
If he loses one of those three games it will be all we talk about during the long off season.
I think we can all agree on that.
One thing is for certain is that come August Hue will be selling us on how well prepared Palmer is for 2012, some of us will buy into it and some of us will chose another team to root for because JC is there.
December 14th, 2011 at 1:35 pm
tebow has 2 years in the offense
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John Fox kept Josh McDaniels’ old playbook?
who knew ???
December 14th, 2011 at 1:36 pm
I dont agree with Mistic on all things but he isnt a coward…and no one has ran him off this site
December 14th, 2011 at 1:36 pm
Ok so Jason Campbell only won TWO games without Darren McFadden, who our offense is tailored around, the undisputed best offensive player on the team.
Carson Palmer has already won THREE games without McFadden.
Everyone in the NFL knows if you take away the ability to run you win the game. Why is it Palmers fault that our run game has disappeared over the last 3 weeks? *one of those games he won with no help from Bush either*
Palmers INT’s are definitely a problem, but he has already proven to be able to do something Campbell never could. Win when the running game doesn’t show up.
Cut the guy some slack already
December 14th, 2011 at 1:36 pm
278.baumraiders Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:35 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:31 pm
aig-raiders Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:23 pm
Hey Mistic,
Does a 38-13 loss in Tenn count as a blow out under JC as well?
Oh and we won 10 games with JC as the QB during the last 2 years here. 10-7.
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actually he won 11 games he started and saved one from grads for 12.
why does this bother you
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And Gradkowski saved one from Campbell … week 2 vs RAMS thank you
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Then JC saved Grad’s sorry ass in the first SD game…we can play this game all day and you guys wont win
December 14th, 2011 at 1:37 pm
260.DMAC Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:30 pm
J Hill Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
Meanwhile …
Lakers sign white man who can jump!!!!
Who will be the first W posterized????
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Who they sign?
Brent Berry?
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Josh Mcroberts, former pacer
December 14th, 2011 at 1:37 pm
for 300 yards and 2 TD’s I am pretty sure that is a good contribution from any perspective.
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who said he didnt play well minus the turnovers? passing 20 times isnt carrying a team when they rush for 200 damn yards and control the clock like we did…Palmer hasnt carried the team….a qb carrying is when they have to be pass happy or chose to be pass happy….we dont have that luxury
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SD game was perfect from a gameplan perspective. That should be our model. Once we get Moore back, hopefully we get back to that a bit.
Pretty much an equal contribution from both running and passing game, but run obviously set up the pass and then the deep ball allowed us to KEEP running.
December 14th, 2011 at 1:38 pm
Mistic —-
WEEK 2 2010, we were losing to the RAMS at home 7-3 at halftime, remember? Garbagekowski came in and led us to victory with 13 2nd half points.
December 14th, 2011 at 1:38 pm
Hill Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:27 pm
The Packers had 30 pts early in the 2nd qtr.
Does it really matter who the QB was????
Thank you! Who cares? Come on guys, JC is injured right now, nothing we can do about that one…like I said, my heart STOPPED when he was on the ground hurting…Palmer is who everyone thought he was…they both got us wins! Now, the real question should be, with out DMAC, do you think BOLLER would have won any game???
December 14th, 2011 at 1:38 pm
283.bcz24 Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:36 pm
Ok so Jason Campbell only won TWO games without Darren McFadden, who our offense is tailored around, the undisputed best offensive player on the team.
Carson Palmer has already won THREE games without McFadden.
Everyone in the NFL knows if you take away the ability to run you win the game. Why is it Palmers fault that our run game has disappeared over the last 3 weeks? *one of those games he won with no help from Bush either*
Palmers INT’s are definitely a problem, but he has already proven to be able to do something Campbell never could. Win when the running game doesn’t show up.
Cut the guy some slack already
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False!…..Houston Texans game how well did we run? Oops….you got checked on that…back to drawing board….it was similar to the Bears game that Palmer won….back to drawing board my upstate NY friend
December 14th, 2011 at 1:38 pm
some of us will buy into it and some of us will chose another team to root for because JC is there.
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Say it aint so …
December 14th, 2011 at 1:38 pm
John Fox kept Josh McDaniels’ old playbook?
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Ok throw out Tebows first season. He still has 7 games plus training camp with FOX
December 14th, 2011 at 1:38 pm
Method
Mistic was the 1st one to say JC saved us of a losing effort by Garbage, so there you go
December 14th, 2011 at 1:38 pm
bcz24 Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
right now tebow is out performing palmer, this is why you are upset.
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Palmer – 123 – 219 56.2% 1,730 yards 9TD 13INTs 2 fumbles
Tebow – 96 – 198 48.5% 1,290 yards 11TD 2 INTs 8 fumbles
Looks pretty close, and tebow has 2 years in the offense, palmer has 7 weeks.
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I have to disagree.
The offense tebow is running is not the orton offense from last year, or earlier this year. they completely overhauled it when he became the starter mid season. So they have similar time in their offenses.
Palmer has 14 turnovers including 13 picks! tebow has less than ten if you count fumbles lost.
tebow 7-1, palmer 3-3
advantage tebow
December 14th, 2011 at 1:38 pm
287.baumraiders Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:38 pm
Mistic —-
WEEK 2 2010, we were losing to the RAMS at home 7-3 at halftime, remember? Garbagekowski came in and led us to victory with 13 2nd half points.
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And almost blew the game and thank god for that BS penalty we got for roughing the QB
December 14th, 2011 at 1:39 pm
JDJohnDickinson John Dickinson
Carson Palmer said D. Moore “didn’t get a ton of work” today at practice but added there is plenty of time for him to get ready #Raiders
2 minutes ago
December 14th, 2011 at 1:39 pm
292.baumraiders Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:38 pm
Method
Mistic was the 1st one to say JC saved us of a losing effort by Garbage, so there you go
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JC has been very much apart of the turnaround in Oakland and gave us 4 wins this year…dissing this guy is a damn shame and the few that do are cowards…big time cowards
December 14th, 2011 at 1:39 pm
# baumraiders Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:38 pm
Mistic —-
WEEK 2 2010, we were losing to the RAMS at home 7-3 at halftime, remember? Garbagekowski came in and led us to victory with 13 2nd half points.
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yes i do, and…
December 14th, 2011 at 1:40 pm
Then JC saved Grad’s sorry ass in the first SD game…we can play this game all day and you guys wont win
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Grads playing with 50% of an already weak shoulder.
JC came in and played well in that game but Grad was injured most of the year.
When not injured, he looked pretty good…. left the field twice in position to win, a third where a huge drop killed our chances.
Same dude who played out a half with two (2) torn MCLs in 2009.
Tough guy, scrappy. Will always get love from me for his contribution to the Raiders, same as JC.
Mistic makes it seem like they’re playing on two different teams (same with CP).
December 14th, 2011 at 1:40 pm
The funniest comment that was made when the season started was Mystic1 every day coming in here with the “Hue Jackson and I are in Lock Step”
Then one day JC went down and Hue brought in Palmer and since then no more “Lock Step” talk.
I laugh so hard every time I remember those old posts.
I support Hue even though I do not agree with him on everything he does.
December 14th, 2011 at 1:41 pm
286.LA to TheBay Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:37 pm
for 300 yards and 2 TD’s I am pretty sure that is a good contribution from any perspective.
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who said he didnt play well minus the turnovers? passing 20 times isnt carrying a team when they rush for 200 damn yards and control the clock like we did…Palmer hasnt carried the team….a qb carrying is when they have to be pass happy or chose to be pass happy….we dont have that luxury
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SD game was perfect from a gameplan perspective. That should be our model. Once we get Moore back, hopefully we get back to that a bit.
Pretty much an equal contribution from both running and passing game, but run obviously set up the pass and then the deep ball allowed us to KEEP running.
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Point is the mfka cant carry us like some of you guys,especially that coward who got ran off this site before shamelessly feeling guilty and coming back, were claiming
December 14th, 2011 at 1:41 pm
False!…..Houston Texans game how well did we run? Oops….you got checked on that…back to drawing board….it was similar to the Bears game that Palmer won….back to drawing board my upstate NY friend
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Really. Campbell threw for 190 yards in that game… not your best example of Campbell carrying the team, BUT, I will give you that one. Show another example?
December 14th, 2011 at 1:41 pm
# hwnrdr Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:38 pm
Hill Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:27 pm
The Packers had 30 pts early in the 2nd qtr.
Does it really matter who the QB was????
Thank you! Who cares? Come on guys, JC is injured right now, nothing we can do about that one…like I said, my heart STOPPED when he was on the ground hurting…Palmer is who everyone thought he was…they both got us wins! Now, the real question should be, with out DMAC, do you think BOLLER would have won any game???
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agreed,
but i dont think a qb needs a super star running back to win. he must spread the ball in the passing game and protect it from turn overs. that is allh he needs to do to win
December 14th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:38 pm
bcz24 Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
right now tebow is out performing palmer, this is why you are upset.
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Palmer – 123 – 219 56.2% 1,730 yards 9TD 13INTs 2 fumbles
Tebow – 96 – 198 48.5% 1,290 yards 11TD 2 INTs 8 fumbles
Looks pretty close, and tebow has 2 years in the offense, palmer has 7 weeks.
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I have to disagree.
The offense tebow is running is not the orton offense from last year, or earlier this year. they completely overhauled it when he became the starter mid season. So they have similar time in their offenses.
Palmer has 14 turnovers including 13 picks! tebow has less than ten if you count fumbles lost.
tebow 7-1, palmer 3-3
advantage tebow
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CP – 49-54
JC – 31-39
ADVANTAGE PALMER
December 14th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
Please show me 4 wins for JC this year….Patiently waiting.
December 14th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
BRIAN,U WILL BE AT GAME THIS SUNDAY VS LIONS YES ?
December 14th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
And another thing…WHO GIVES A FLYING F**K ABOUT TEBOW…
Come on…!!!
December 14th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
tebow 7-1, palmer 3-3
advantage tebow
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Or, you know, advantage Broncos.
The other 52 guys have nothing to do with Broncos winning games if you believe ESPN.
December 14th, 2011 at 1:43 pm
298.LA to TheBay Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:40 pm
Then JC saved Grad’s sorry ass in the first SD game…we can play this game all day and you guys wont win
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Grads playing with 50% of an already weak shoulder.
JC came in and played well in that game but Grad was injured most of the year.
When not injured, he looked pretty good…. left the field twice in position to win, a third where a huge drop killed our chances.
Same dude who played out a half with two (2) torn MCLs in 2009.
Tough guy, scrappy. Will always get love from me for his contribution to the Raiders, same as JC.
Mistic makes it seem like they’re playing on two different teams (same with CP).
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False info….Grad wasnt hurt before 1st SD game with the AC joint…he was 1-7 bout to get us killed vs SD…trust me Seyi told me the SD defense was scared when JC got in….Grad sucked and didnt do schit…fk him. Grad dont deserve schit
December 14th, 2011 at 1:43 pm
I think talking about Campbell is worthless.
I would take Dan Orlovsky over him LoL
December 14th, 2011 at 1:43 pm
305.DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
BRIAN,U WILL BE AT GAME THIS SUNDAY VS LIONS YES ?
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Yep
December 14th, 2011 at 1:44 pm
The Raiders Offense and QB play is clearly not the same w/ out DMAC in the lineup.
(I don’t give a fk, what QB is back there)
FACT!
December 14th, 2011 at 1:44 pm
Mystic, I agree with you there! I shoudl have asked…how many games would Boller have won, period…ok, maybe being unfair, but I think none! That was our biggest mistake!
December 14th, 2011 at 1:44 pm
The Packers had 30 pts early in the 2nd qtr.
Does it really matter who the QB was????
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in a way, yes.
did our QB give them the football or score any points of his own when “The Packers had 30 pts early in the 2nd qtr.” ???
December 14th, 2011 at 1:44 pm
Den,NYJ,Houston and Clev all wins by JC…..now try and spin and lie as usual coward
December 14th, 2011 at 1:44 pm
he must spread the ball in the passing game and protect it from turn overs. that is allh he needs to do to win
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How does DHBs drops and a defense giving up 30 pts in the first 20 minutes of the game play into this?
December 14th, 2011 at 1:44 pm
Funny, whenever anyone says jC won games, the only refuge of the haters is to claim “he didnt carry the team”.
No one ever says that about palmers wins. I dont recall palmer “carriyng the team” either.
Actually in my view, the qb doesnt need to carry the team in most games, he only needs to lead the team.
no matter how you slice you cant erase the 11 wins Jc posted
December 14th, 2011 at 1:44 pm
Ya’ll need to get off Tebow’s nutz, FOREALS!!!
FK the Donkeys!
December 14th, 2011 at 1:45 pm
Point is the mfka cant carry us like some of you guys,especially that coward who got ran off this site before shamelessly feeling guilty and coming back, were claiming
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Disagree.
He’s far from where he needs to be… that’s obvious.
But he carried us pretty well in the Bears and Vikings games. More so v. CHI town. Didn’t have the big numbers, but when Bush was pretty limited, CP got yardage in chunks, made good decisions and put us in position for 6 FGs.
Sure, you want to see TDs from your QB, but I think he can carry us and will again.
December 14th, 2011 at 1:45 pm
I would bet a months salary that come August 2012 Hue will be selling us all on how much improved Palmer is with an off season and a training camp under his belt.
So all of this talk about who is better will not matter.
December 14th, 2011 at 1:45 pm
Watch the coward’s response this will be hilarious….someone did this that game and someone did that….all bogus BS…only one position gets W-L attached to them…..come on coward please fail again as usual
Oh yeah and JC would fail? 4-2 and 11-7 overall in oakland isnt failing….so coward the floor is yours…I’ll be back…going to grab some food….coward on
December 14th, 2011 at 1:45 pm
MISTIC who has the advantage, you say JC is a winner.
JC- 31-39
CP- 49-54
ADVANTAGE???
December 14th, 2011 at 1:45 pm
the Donkeys would have 4 wins on the season with Orton or Quinn at QB!
December 14th, 2011 at 1:46 pm
no matter how you slice you cant erase the 11 wins Jc posted
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Don’t know why anyone would.
First winning record for a Raider QB in a loooooong time.
December 14th, 2011 at 1:46 pm
CP- 47.57 % winning %
JC- 44.28 % Winning %
December 14th, 2011 at 1:46 pm
Never been a big Carson fan and was flashing the warning signs myself with Mistic when he came on board being I’m one of the few whose acutally watched a bunch of Bengal games; but I dropped the arguing grandstand over the simple fact he’s a Raider and because I really liked Hue; therefore I made myself like Carson. What some are still forgetting is when Hue goes/Carson goes, and vice versa, so unless that’s understood and you’re not cheering for both, no point in debating…. The folks who like one and hate the other are killing yourselves arguing; knowing they’re forever linked.
December 14th, 2011 at 1:47 pm
I’ll fk’n say it again!
The Raiders Offense and QB play is clearly not the same w/ out DMAC in the lineup.
(I don’t give a fk, what QB is back there)
FACT!
December 14th, 2011 at 1:47 pm
I would love for JC to come back and have a QB competition next year, but that is probably 99.999.9999% NOT gonna happen!
December 14th, 2011 at 1:48 pm
I have to disagree.
The offense tebow is running is not the orton offense from last year, or earlier this year. they completely overhauled it when he became the starter mid season. So they have similar time in their offenses.
Palmer has 14 turnovers including 13 picks! tebow has less than ten if you count fumbles lost.
tebow 7-1, palmer 3-3
advantage tebow
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I love how you only dispute HALF of my comments, and ignore the other half. Like when I said ‘I think it would be fair to that all things being equal (just the defensive play really) they would have very similar W-L records. So it isn’t really fair to say Tebow is out performing palmer’
December 14th, 2011 at 1:48 pm
Hwnrdr…..
According to a lot of reports JC doesn’t handle the competition very well.
December 14th, 2011 at 1:48 pm
False info….Grad wasnt hurt before 1st SD game with the AC joint…he was 1-7 bout to get us killed vs SD…trust me Seyi told me the SD defense was scared when JC got in….Grad sucked and didnt do schit…fk him. Grad dont deserve schit
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He was injured. It was reaggrivated in that game very early by a Shawn Phillips hit.
December 14th, 2011 at 1:48 pm
did our QB give them the football or score any points of his own when “The Packers had 30 pts early in the 2nd qtr.” ???
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I’ll simply ask you if you really expected the offense that took the field this past weekend to keep up with any part of a GB team that put up THIRTY points early in the SECOND qtr???
Let’s say Palmer didn’t throw that pick, and out offense puts up it “usual” 1st qtr production …
30-14 early in the 2nd???
Again, I would ask if we were really sitting here talking about the QB?
The game was OVER the second we decided to go with 4 safeties and play cover 2.
December 14th, 2011 at 1:48 pm
I am sure if you took Palmer and put him on the current Broncos with their defense and took Teblow and put him on this Raiders squad with this defense…..yeah, I think Teblow would not have very many wins.
December 14th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
“Ya’ll need to get off Tebow’s nutz, FOREALS!!!
FK the Donkeys!”
THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 14th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
Why do most of you pick the Raiders to win EVERY game?… Be realistic. Has nothing to do with how much of a fan you are. No one likes that “ignorant guy”
Some of you seriously were thinking we would win last week..
December 14th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
304.aig-raiders Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
Please show me 4 wins for JC this year….Patiently waiting.
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The question is…what there be a discussion between Grads and Palmer if he was here last year?!?
The fact JC had to “look over his shoulder” is enough for me. Was he not confident in being the starter? And thats with workouts and a training camp…
December 14th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
I would bet a months salary that come August 2012 Hue will be selling us all on how much improved Palmer is with an off season and a training camp under his belt.
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Well, I would hope so.
December 14th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
# LA to TheBay Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:40 pm
Then JC saved Grad’s sorry ass in the first SD game…we can play this game all day and you guys wont win
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Grads playing with 50% of an already weak shoulder.
JC came in and played well in that game but Grad was injured most of the year.
When not injured, he looked pretty good…. left the field twice in position to win, a third where a huge drop killed our chances.
Same dude who played out a half with two (2) torn MCLs in 2009.
Tough guy, scrappy. Will always get love from me for his contribution to the Raiders, same as JC.
Mistic makes it seem like they’re playing on two different teams (same with CP).
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instead of being emotionally involved, i prefer to look at WHAT ACTUALLY TAKES PLACE ON THE FIELD.
So I will always say Jc is better than grads and palmer, until they surpass what he has done here.
This is what keeps my opinion out of the realm of fantasy, where others love to be.
it is very simple really, palmer nor grad has done what jc has done as a raider, and until palmer does, how can i say palmer is better?
December 14th, 2011 at 1:50 pm
332.Dakota Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:48 pm
I am sure if you took Palmer and put him on the current Broncos with their defense and took Teblow and put him on this Raiders squad with this defense…..yeah, I think Teblow would not have very many wins.
THANK YOU! It wouuld have been the Brady Quinn show by now!!!
December 14th, 2011 at 1:50 pm
The question is…what there be a discussion between Grads and Palmer if he was here last year?!?
The fact JC had to “look over his shoulder” is enough for me. Was he not confident in being the starter? And thats with workouts and a training camp…
AND garbagekowski as the competition
December 14th, 2011 at 1:51 pm
False info….Grad wasnt hurt before 1st SD game with the AC joint…he was 1-7 bout to get us killed vs SD
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Either throwing propaganda again or you have no frickin clue what you are talking about.
Grad got his shoulder busted the week before against Houston by the Houston safety. Grad left the SD game when we were up 12-7 and JC took over at the 10:07 mark of the 2nd qtr.
http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2010101011/2010/REG5/chargers@raiders#menu=drivechart&tab=analyze&analyze=playbyplay
BTW, I’m patiently waiting for JC’s 4th win this year. How long will you duck me? C’mon give it to us.
December 14th, 2011 at 1:51 pm
# Dakota Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:48 pm
I am sure if you took Palmer and put him on the current Broncos with their defense and took Teblow and put him on this Raiders squad with this defense…..yeah, I think Teblow would not have very many wins.
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what ifs are worthless, you can only judge by what is actually happening today. As of this moment our sad sack of a qb is looking up at donkey balls
December 14th, 2011 at 1:51 pm
326.DMAC Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:47 pm
I’ll fk’n say it again!
The Raiders Offense and QB play is clearly not the same w/ out DMAC in the lineup.
(I don’t give a fk, what QB is back there)
FACT!
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True. But Palmer was doing okay when he had Ford and Moore. The hope for this season is that we get them back and see what Palmer can do.
Add McFadden in next year and for the first time we can see a real offense.
Just plain bad Raider luck that McFadden got hurt the first game we had Palmer. Just fkn pizzez me off!
December 14th, 2011 at 1:51 pm
Either way you slice it, we NEED a win Sunday or the season is over and guess what?….
Campbell just got out a sling and won’t take a snap ever again as a Raider.
So either put some faith in Palmer for the birlliant throws he has made at times, and the no huddle effectiveness at times. or … you can foucs on his awful picks and be salty about it and baskically sub-conciously routing for him to fail.
Be a raider.
Support Palmer. If not, go find 2 first round picks in your pocket and gve them to Hue.
goodluck.
December 14th, 2011 at 1:52 pm
“What some are still forgetting is when Hue goes/Carson goes, and vice versa, so unless that’s understood and you’re not cheering for both, no point in debating…”
THANK YOU!!
I have been saying that all week in here Palmer and Hue Jackson are tied at the hip Hue got to play GM and who did he go after?
If you are hoping for Palmer to fail then you are also hoping to send Hue Jackson out of town!
December 14th, 2011 at 1:52 pm
Will we get a training report today ??
December 14th, 2011 at 1:52 pm
guys intsead of talking about what you want to happen, look at what has happened, it will make life much easier.
yes JFB predicted tebow would hurt us, i disagreed but he was right.
December 14th, 2011 at 1:52 pm
So I will always say Jc is better than grads and palmer, until they surpass what he has done here.
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I say Palmer about week 7 of next year (not counting any 2011 playoff games)
December 14th, 2011 at 1:53 pm
I am sure if you took Palmer and put him on the current Broncos with their defense and took Teblow and put him on this Raiders squad with this defense…..yeah, I think Teblow would not have very many wins.
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Raiders would be in 1st place of the AFC West. Donks would be in last.
December 14th, 2011 at 1:54 pm
POST-343,WELL SAID RAIDERINPARADISE.JUST AS WELL BE TALKING ABOUT STABLER OR PLUNKETT..
December 14th, 2011 at 1:54 pm
and the no huddle effectiveness at times.
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What happened to the damn no huddle????
How can something that was working so well be tossed right out the window?
December 14th, 2011 at 1:55 pm
The fact JC had to “look over his shoulder” is enough for me. Was he not confident in being the starter? And thats with workouts and a training camp…
AND garbagekowski as the competition
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100% correct. The QB leadership or swagger as some call it is extremely important to the QB position. Even more so than arm strength or physical abilities. I knew that Cam Newton and Tebow had it because they carried their teams in college. You look at all the winners and they have it. It doesnt guarantee success but it is a key element to success.
December 14th, 2011 at 1:55 pm
So I will always say Jc is better than grads and palmer, until they surpass what he has done here.
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Actually if you want to compare apples to apples, Palmer and Campbell are both 3-4 in their first 7 games with the Raiders.
December 14th, 2011 at 1:55 pm
As of this moment our sad sack of a qb is looking up at donkey balls
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Raider fan?
As of this moment the RAIDERS are looking up at the Broncos. We win and they lose, whole new ball game.
December 14th, 2011 at 1:55 pm
Fact: Palmer has thrown TD passes in his short period of time in Oakland that Jason Campbell could only dream of….Palmer just needs some weapons back.
Fact: Jason Campbell only wins games when the run game carries the game. You can coun’t the number of times Cambell threw for 300 yards and won the game on about two fingers lol.
December 14th, 2011 at 1:55 pm
“So either put some faith in Palmer for the birlliant throws he has made at times, and the no huddle effectiveness at times. or … you can foucs on his awful picks and be salty about it and baskically sub-conciously routing for him to fail.
Be a raider.
Support Palmer. If not, go find 2 first round picks in your pocket and gve them to Hue.
goodluck.”
Nice post!
December 14th, 2011 at 1:56 pm
MY POST-349 DOES NOT MEAN I DISRESPECT JC IN ANY WAY.JUST SAY’N
December 14th, 2011 at 1:56 pm
A little interesting trivia…
Name an AFC QB that will start against the same NFC team twice in the same year playing for two different teams?
December 14th, 2011 at 1:56 pm
344.Silverandblack666 Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:52 pm
“What some are still forgetting is when Hue goes/Carson goes, and vice versa, so unless that’s understood and you’re not cheering for both, no point in debating…”
THANK YOU!!
I have been saying that all week in here Palmer and Hue Jackson are tied at the hip Hue got to play GM and who did he go after?
If you are hoping for Palmer to fail then you are also hoping to send Hue Jackson out of town!
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Now even in saying that, I’m not saying I wanted Hue to go out and reach for Palmer, Lord knows I didn’t, Lol, but being he did, and I’m a Hue fan and think he’s the guy for the gig (thought a lot more so then than now, but whatever), I’m pulling hard for the both of them to have success.
December 14th, 2011 at 1:56 pm
December 14th, 2011 at 1:57 pm
340.aig-raiders Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:51 pm
False info….Grad wasnt hurt before 1st SD game with the AC joint…he was 1-7 bout to get us killed vs SD
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Either throwing propaganda again or you have no frickin clue what you are talking about.
Grad got his shoulder busted the week before against Houston by the Houston safety. Grad left the SD game when we were up 12-7 and JC took over at the 10:07 mark of the 2nd qtr.
http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2010101011/2010/REG5/chargers@raiders#menu=drivechart&tab=analyze&analyze=playbyplay
BTW, I’m patiently waiting for JC’s 4th win this year. How long will you duck me? C’mon give it to us.
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hahahaha coward…..i already gave it to you…scroll up…but cowards usually run from the truth…dont be afraid scroll up coward…but when proven wrong again dont run likeyou did from jhill….not even PBT wanted your sorry coward ass on there
December 14th, 2011 at 1:57 pm
# J Hill Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:54 pm
and the no huddle effectiveness at times.
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What happened to the damn no huddle????
How can something that was working so well be tossed right out the window?
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palmer hasnt executed it well
December 14th, 2011 at 1:57 pm
hwnrdr Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:56 pm
A little interesting trivia…
Name an AFC QB that will start against the same NFC team twice in the same year playing for two different teams?
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Orton. Too easy.
December 14th, 2011 at 1:57 pm
Name an AFC QB that will start against the same NFC team twice in the same year playing for two different teams?
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Orton?
December 14th, 2011 at 1:57 pm
LATimesfarmer The NFL now has agreed to nine-year extensions with CBS, Fox and NBC. That beeping you hear is the Brinks truck backing up.
16 minutes ago
LATimesfarmer How does this all relate to Los Angeles? Well, let’s just say the price of an NFL franchise ain’t going down. That makes LA tougher.
12 minutes ago
December 14th, 2011 at 1:57 pm
Fact: Jason Campbell only wins games when the run game carries the game. You can coun’t the number of times Cambell threw for 300 yards and won the game on about two fingers lol.
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I have gone over the 10 wins that JC had with Oakland. In every one of them, you will either find ST, D, or ground game being the biggest contributor of the day. FACT.
December 14th, 2011 at 1:58 pm
What happened to the damn no huddle????
How can something that was working so well be tossed right out the window?
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palmer hasnt executed it well
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December 14th, 2011 at 1:58 pm
361.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:57 pm
# J Hill Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:54 pm
and the no huddle effectiveness at times.
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What happened to the damn no huddle????
How can something that was working so well be tossed right out the window?
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palmer hasnt executed it well
Wait…throw your biasness out the window for a sec Mystic…that is the one thing I will give Palmer over JC!
December 14th, 2011 at 1:59 pm
Hey coward dont give us your excuse you have a life and you had better things to do….you live in the memphis area….so no one will believe that excuse…so coward on
December 14th, 2011 at 1:59 pm
357.hwnrdr Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:56 pm
A little interesting trivia…
Name an AFC QB that will start against the same NFC team twice in the same year playing for two different teams?
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Is Orton coming back? I thought he was done with a broken something or other in his throwing hand.
December 14th, 2011 at 1:59 pm
I dont remember Campbell ever using no-huddle at all.
Palmer seems more confident when running it.
December 14th, 2011 at 2:00 pm
Why even waste your time, LA?
December 14th, 2011 at 2:00 pm
That one pass JC threw in Buffalo to Bush on a crucial 3rd down was a thing of beauty!
That was the kind of pass I had been wanting to see out of JC for the last 2 years. Since Palmer has been here he has made 4 or 5 throws like that.
I am going to be patient with Palmer and when 2012 starts I bet he will surprise many of us here.
In Hue I trust.
December 14th, 2011 at 2:00 pm
365.aig-raiders Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:57 pm
Fact: Jason Campbell only wins games when the run game carries the game. You can coun’t the number of times Cambell threw for 300 yards and won the game on about two fingers lol.
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I have gone over the 10 wins that JC had with Oakland. In every one of them, you will either find ST, D, or ground game being the biggest contributor of the day. FACT.
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11 wins cowardly lion…go walk with Dorothy and find some courage
Hmmmm let’s see when Hue got here when became a power run team…run first offense….i dont know but offense is designed that way….cowards even lie too yall hahahahahahahaha
December 14th, 2011 at 2:00 pm
bcz, I think you mean Cutler.
Orton is healthy as far as I know.
December 14th, 2011 at 2:00 pm
Dec. 14, 2011 2:12 p.m. – by Eric Gilmore – Raiders close in on dubious penalties record
The Raiders remain on track to break the NFL’s single-season record for penalties and penalty yards. They have 130 penalties for 1,116 yards and are on pace to finish with 160 for 1,374. The 1998 Chiefs own both records with 158 penalties for 1,304 yards. Sunday’s game against Detroit could turn into flag football. The Lions rank third in penalties (105) and penalty yards (894). Raiders RapidReports
FLAG FOOTBALL LOL
December 14th, 2011 at 2:00 pm
Schefter reported that Orton will start this week versus GB…
And yeah, I know that was easy…just had to break this dam Palmer vs JC crap!
December 14th, 2011 at 2:00 pm
J,
I’m stubborn
December 14th, 2011 at 2:00 pm
Orton is #1 on the KC depth chart…
did Jones finish practice?
December 14th, 2011 at 2:00 pm
# bcz24 Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:55 pm
So I will always say Jc is better than grads and palmer, until they surpass what he has done here.
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Actually if you want to compare apples to apples, Palmer and Campbell are both 3-4 in their first 7 games with the Raiders.
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actually i wasnt comparing them at all, i was talking tebow.
However Jc took a team that was 5-11 and made them good, palmer inherited a team that was 4-2 and we are being blown out.
Aside from the win totals im concerned that palmers mind numbing pace turning the ball over is a problem. i never had that concern with jc.
Its only opinion but palmer hasnt lived up to the hype or the instant upgrade theory
December 14th, 2011 at 2:00 pm
Does it make you a bigger man calling me a coward while hiding behind your screen name B?
the only time I ever remember anyone running off is a few weeks ago when I proved to you that your logic was flat out wrong when it comes to win/losses by the QB. Because you had to admit that Alex Smith was better than JC. I do remember you running off that day from this blog being all pissed off and promising to show up at Ricky’s to tell it to my face. I dont remember seeing you at Ricky’s that day.
December 14th, 2011 at 2:01 pm
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hahahaha coward…..i already gave it to you…scroll up…but cowards usually run from the truth…dont be afraid scroll up coward…but when proven wrong again dont run likeyou did from jhill….not even PBT wanted your sorry coward ass on there
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B Grads hurt his shoulder the first time in the Houston game, the week before we played SD the first time last year.
December 14th, 2011 at 2:01 pm
374.LA to TheBay Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 2:00 pm
bcz, I think you mean Cutler.
Orton is healthy as far as I know.
Actually, Orton dislocated his pinky or something…
December 14th, 2011 at 2:01 pm
sorry I didnt even read what you wrote… carry on
December 14th, 2011 at 2:01 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 2:00 pm
bcz, I think you mean Cutler.
Orton is healthy as far as I know.
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Orton jacked up a finger on his throwing hand the 1st play he was in a Chief uniform.
December 14th, 2011 at 2:01 pm
@ HWNRDR whats even more exciting about that is Orton will face broncos later on, redemption game.
December 14th, 2011 at 2:01 pm
What are your thoughts on Des Bryant?
DE or DT?
garbage or bright future?
December 14th, 2011 at 2:02 pm
Only priesttj has been ran off this site.
lmao
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Method To My Madness Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:36 pm
I dont agree with Mistic on all things but he isnt a coward…and no one has ran him off this site
December 14th, 2011 at 2:02 pm
Orton is healthy as far as I know.
Actually, Orton dislocated his pinky or something…
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Not sure what the injury was all I know is he got hurt and left the game on his very first play in a Chiefs uniform.
December 14th, 2011 at 2:02 pm
# DeuceDeuce Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:59 pm
I dont remember Campbell ever using no-huddle at all.
Palmer seems more confident when running it.
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you havent been watching. they often employed the no huddle because they found that jc excelled when the tempo of the offnese was quick. this is why he is so good in the 2 minute drill.
the two minute no huddle was a strength for jc
December 14th, 2011 at 2:03 pm
but when proven wrong again dont run likeyou did from jhill….
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Awwww doggie dogg …
Why you have to go and open old wounds?
I’m a changed blogger!
Peace and goodwill to everyone!
December 14th, 2011 at 2:03 pm
DT – Should be the starter over Seymour.
Future – Avg player
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DMAC Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 2:01 pm
What are your thoughts on Des Bryant?
DE or DT?
garbage or bright future?
December 14th, 2011 at 2:03 pm
Orton playing gives us hope for a Chief victory the last week.
Of course it also means we play them next week.
So most likely we will lose and be out of it officially next week. Sweet.
December 14th, 2011 at 2:03 pm
I have always thought JC was 11-7 as a starter here.
I should go back and look to make sure.
December 14th, 2011 at 2:04 pm
C;mon B,
Show me the 11 wins by JC. Let’s make it simple. Show me the “4″ wins by JC this year. Let’s see how good your math is. I can’t wait to LMAO at your 4th win for JC this year. Most of the bloggers on here know JC won 3 this year. But you think he won 4 though….Cleveland? hahahahahahhahaha
JC left the game with 5 mins left in the 2nd qtr. Boller played more minutes than JC….but JC gets the W right?
December 14th, 2011 at 2:04 pm
talk about grads vs campbell? to support campbell over palmer?
What BS!
all 3 of them didn’t get us to the playoffs. but palmer has that chance. lets wait and see.
anywho if Campbell learned how to slide, he would of helped his team, but he hurt his teamates and put them in a bad place because he is a slow thinking mouth breather.
December 14th, 2011 at 2:04 pm
J Hill Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 2:03 pm
but when proven wrong again dont run likeyou did from jhill….
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Awwww doggie dogg …
Why you have to go and open old wounds?
I’m a changed blogger!
Peace and goodwill to everyone!
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FK yo couch n***a!
lol
December 14th, 2011 at 2:04 pm
380.aig-raiders Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 2:00 pm
Does it make you a bigger man calling me a coward while hiding behind your screen name B?
the only time I ever remember anyone running off is a few weeks ago when I proved to you that your logic was flat out wrong when it comes to win/losses by the QB. Because you had to admit that Alex Smith was better than JC. I do remember you running off that day from this blog being all pissed off and promising to show up at Ricky’s to tell it to my face. I dont remember seeing you at Ricky’s that day.
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Dumb btch i go to games…why would i go to ricky’s before the game? I tailgate you dumb coward! lol
I gave ya my email address you lil coward…everyone on here knows it….but your punk ass wouldnt hit it up
And i was pissed cuz of your pissy pxssy story about being guilty about Al dying….you sorry sack of schit…..I told some ofthe fellas inthe lot that day and everyone agreed you are a coward
December 14th, 2011 at 2:05 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 2:02 pm
# DeuceDeuce Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:59 pm
I dont remember Campbell ever using no-huddle at all.
Palmer seems more confident when running it.
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you havent been watching. they often employed the no huddle because they found that jc excelled when the tempo of the offnese was quick. this is why he is so good in the 2 minute drill.
the two minute no huddle was a strength for jc
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I havent missed a Raider game since I was in the Air Force 6 years ago.
That being said I dont remember JC using the no huddle much if at all. But I could be wrong.
December 14th, 2011 at 2:05 pm
So most likely we will lose and be out of it officially next week. Sweet.
Wow!
December 14th, 2011 at 2:05 pm
394.aig-raiders Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 2:04 pm
C;mon B,
Show me the 11 wins by JC. Let’s make it simple. Show me the “4″ wins by JC this year. Let’s see how good your math is. I can’t wait to LMAO at your 4th win for JC this year. Most of the bloggers on here know JC won 3 this year. But you think he won 4 though….Cleveland? hahahahahahhahaha
JC left the game with 5 mins left in the 2nd qtr. Boller played more minutes than JC….but JC gets the W right?
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Um yeah you dumb schit he does…how fkin dumb are you?
December 14th, 2011 at 2:05 pm
That one pass JC threw in Buffalo to Bush on a crucial 3rd down was a thing of beauty!
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Buffalo loss was BY FAR Glo’s best game as a Raider.
But of course that damn defense …
Ahhh, never mind.
QB doesn’t matter.
Hire a GM!
December 14th, 2011 at 2:05 pm
# hwnrdr Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:58 pm
361.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:57 pm
# J Hill Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:54 pm
and the no huddle effectiveness at times.
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What happened to the damn no huddle????
How can something that was working so well be tossed right out the window?
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palmer hasnt executed it well
Wait…throw your biasness out the window for a sec Mystic…that is the one thing I will give Palmer over JC!
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why the comparison again?
no bias palmer has struggled in the no huddle this season. what does that have to do with Jc?
December 14th, 2011 at 2:05 pm
im a life long raider fan BUT, the way our defense is playing doesnt matter who our QB or RB or WR’s are .
December 14th, 2011 at 2:05 pm
actually i wasnt comparing them at all, i was talking tebow.
However Jc took a team that was 5-11 and made them good, palmer inherited a team that was 4-2 and we are being blown out.
Aside from the win totals im concerned that palmers mind numbing pace turning the ball over is a problem. i never had that concern with jc.
Its only opinion but palmer hasnt lived up to the hype or the instant upgrade theory
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I will give you credit dude, you should definitely be a politician. You can spin ANYTHING to fit your POV. No doubt there.
But you know what the #1 fact is… this whole JC vs Palmer debate is absolutely meaningless. Know why? Palmer can play right now, and Campbell cant.
Anyone care to fire up the Palmer Boller debate?
December 14th, 2011 at 2:06 pm
Mystic I ask you this since you are now on the Teblow band wagon.
What would the Bronco’s record be in they had Newton as their QB instead of Teblow?
December 14th, 2011 at 2:06 pm
imaquaman Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 2:05 pm
im a life long raider fan BUT, the way our defense is playing doesnt matter who our QB or RB or WR’s are .
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Ding Ding Ding!!!
December 14th, 2011 at 2:06 pm
Boller didnt win the cleveland game dumbass lol…JC did and thats known
show the 11
Well dumb btch ass coward we know he went 7-5 last year and he is 4-2 this year….you do the math down in your lame memphis town okay?
December 14th, 2011 at 2:07 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 2:03 pm
I have always thought JC was 11-7 as a starter here.
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Bro, I have counted it over a few times. 10-7. B tried to give the Cleveland win to JC this year even though Boller played more minutes. It’s like saying Grad should get teh SD win last year because he started that game and left with a lead. Laughable.
December 14th, 2011 at 2:07 pm
hey Coward IG…..remember JC would fail? Remember that?
December 14th, 2011 at 2:07 pm
# DeuceDeuce Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 2:05 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 2:02 pm
# DeuceDeuce Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:59 pm
I dont remember Campbell ever using no-huddle at all.
Palmer seems more confident when running it.
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you havent been watching. they often employed the no huddle because they found that jc excelled when the tempo of the offnese was quick. this is why he is so good in the 2 minute drill.
the two minute no huddle was a strength for jc
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I havent missed a Raider game since I was in the Air Force 6 years ago.
That being said I dont remember JC using the no huddle much if at all. But I could be wrong.
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you are, buffalo, houston, ny jest, all of those games featured no huddle at some point in the game, in all 3 jc deliverd the goods.
last year san diego, kc, jax, just for example
December 14th, 2011 at 2:07 pm
FK yo couch n***a!
lol
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MMMMMMMM Marango Keyhole ….
Or something like that.
December 14th, 2011 at 2:07 pm
389.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 2:02 pm
# DeuceDeuce Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:59 pm
I dont remember Campbell ever using no-huddle at all.
Palmer seems more confident when running it.
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you havent been watching. they often employed the no huddle because they found that jc excelled when the tempo of the offnese was quick. this is why he is so good in the 2 minute drill.
the two minute no huddle was a strength for jc
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They must be related…
December 14th, 2011 at 2:08 pm
“I dont remember JC using the no huddle much if at all. But I could be wrong.”
Outside of the 2 minute offense I cant remember it either.
December 14th, 2011 at 2:08 pm
408.aig-raiders Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 2:07 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 2:03 pm
I have always thought JC was 11-7 as a starter here.
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Bro, I have counted it over a few times. 10-7. B tried to give the Cleveland win to JC this year even though Boller played more minutes. It’s like saying Grad should get teh SD win last year because he started that game and left with a lead. Laughable.
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Coward IG….dont know what the word STARTER means?….in moving to memphis I see you have adopted the brain power ofthe locals lol
December 14th, 2011 at 2:08 pm
Or is his agent…
December 14th, 2011 at 2:09 pm
408.aig-raiders Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 2:07 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 2:03 pm
I have always thought JC was 11-7 as a starter here.
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Bro, I have counted it over a few times. 10-7. B tried to give the Cleveland win to JC this year even though Boller played more minutes. It’s like saying Grad should get teh SD win last year because he started that game and left with a lead. Laughable.
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Dumbass Grad did get the win for that…he was 1-3 as a starter….math wasnt your strong suit was it?
December 14th, 2011 at 2:09 pm
This is how the next game will go….
Detroit TD on their 1st drive…. Raiders 3 & out…
Detroit FG on their 2nd drive…. Raiders 3 & out…
Detroit TD on their 3rd drive…. Raiders FG…
Rinse & Repeat for 2nd half. Except for the 1 Raider score being a TD in garbage time…
Lions – 34
Raiders – 10
Hope im wrong.
December 14th, 2011 at 2:09 pm
laughable was you last year saying grads was better lol
December 14th, 2011 at 2:10 pm
I think Hue Jackson needs to let Al Saunderz do the play calling Hues play calling is to predictable and too conservative
December 14th, 2011 at 2:11 pm
Hue said he would’ve brought in another RB if he’d known DMC would be out this long
December 14th, 2011 at 2:11 pm
let’s review Coward IG’s bs shall we?………..he said only when run game goes good JC was successful….hmmm thought we were a run first team? So JC doing the gameplan and following it is a knock against him? I get cowardly lion lmao
December 14th, 2011 at 2:11 pm
# Silverandblack666 Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 2:06 pm
Mystic I ask you this since you are now on the Teblow band wagon.
What would the Bronco’s record be in they had Newton as their QB instead of Teblow?
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im not a teabow fan by any stretch, admitting that he is out playing the bungle-tron doesnt make me one.
There is no way of knowing that is pure conjecture and fantasy, im not into it like you are
December 14th, 2011 at 2:11 pm
We might as well be talking about Aaron Brooks and why did he fail blah blah blah because JC is gone outta here yesterdays news.
Once the season is over Jason Campbell is gone, do you guys get that or is that somehow lost in all this debate.
So in essence we are all debating a guy who has one foot out the door.
December 14th, 2011 at 2:11 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 2:07 pm
# DeuceDeuce Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 2:05 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 2:02 pm
# DeuceDeuce Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 1:59 pm
I dont remember Campbell ever using no-huddle at all.
Palmer seems more confident when running it.
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you havent been watching. they often employed the no huddle because they found that jc excelled when the tempo of the offnese was quick. this is why he is so good in the 2 minute drill.
the two minute no huddle was a strength for jc
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I havent missed a Raider game since I was in the Air Force 6 years ago.
That being said I dont remember JC using the no huddle much if at all. But I could be wrong.
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you are, buffalo, houston, ny jest, all of those games featured no huddle at some point in the game, in all 3 jc deliverd the goods.
last year san diego, kc, jax, just for example
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Im not talking about 2 minute offense.
And im fairly sure JC didnt use no huddle other than that.
So im gonna respectfully disagree..
December 14th, 2011 at 2:12 pm
Coward IG….tell us about your guilt over Al passing again…that was sad but kinda hilarious you show how much a btch you truly are
December 14th, 2011 at 2:12 pm
419.Al Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 2:10 pm
I think Hue Jackson needs to let Al Saunderz do the play calling Hues play calling is to predictable and too conservative
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Its not Hue. The play calling is curtailed by injuries and personnel available.
December 14th, 2011 at 2:12 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 2:06 pm
Boller didnt win the cleveland game dumbass lol…JC did and thats known
show the 11
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Just so you know. JC led 1 score. Jacoby ran 1 KO for a TD to make it 14-7. JC left at the 5 min mark of the 2nd qtr.
So how did JC get the W for this game again? By your logic, Grad should get the W for the first SD game last year. Left with a lead as well. Either way, you’re checkmated. Any seconds now I expect an implosion by you and swearing to meet up with me at Ricky’s again to throw something in my face…..again.
December 14th, 2011 at 2:12 pm
Question: worst case scenario
If the Raiders lose all 3 of their remaining games, does Hue Jackson remain HC and have a huge say in who the next GM will be?
December 14th, 2011 at 2:13 pm
424. “Coward” Ladies and gentlemen I give you Ricochet as Method.
Sick swick individual. Pity him
December 14th, 2011 at 2:13 pm
VittorioTafur Vittorio Tafur
Hue said he probably would have brought in another RB if he knew McFadden would be out this long
3 minutes ago
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wow, admitting all his rookie msitakes make him look glaringly in over his head. I guess he assumed if Bush got hurt that reece, tonga and ROck would win you games lol.
December 14th, 2011 at 2:13 pm
Post #232; any combination of “Soup’s deep balls outside the hashes that consistently drift out of bounds’ his penchant for dumpoffs (the sound exchange with Hue confirms the scouting report that “Soup is slow to process information. . .), calling timeout alwost every game in the first quarter. . .
December 14th, 2011 at 2:13 pm
No word on sell out for Sunday?
December 14th, 2011 at 2:13 pm
Who want to bet me?
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I’ll bet you SNB… If we lose on Sunday with your boy JaCarson and he throws atleast 2 INTS you can’t post for the rest of the season. If we win and JaCarson throws 2 TD’s , I won’t post for the rest of the season . SOUND GOOD ?
December 14th, 2011 at 2:14 pm
423.Silverandblack666 Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 2:11 pm
We might as well be talking about Aaron Brooks and why did he fail blah blah blah because JC is gone outta here yesterdays news.
Once the season is over Jason Campbell is gone, do you guys get that or is that somehow lost in all this debate.
So in essence we are all debating a guy who has one foot out the door.
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thats not the point…we reviewing the coward’s lies
December 14th, 2011 at 2:14 pm
428. Who the **** gonna fire him? Hue?
Hes a rookie for christmas sake who against unprecendented odds managed to keep this team in the hunt.
No way he fires himslef next season unless he shoots a gun near a guys head
December 14th, 2011 at 2:14 pm
Tomorrow the game better sell-out.
December 14th, 2011 at 2:14 pm
DHB is the last WR on the roster we should run a quick slant with.
Everyone knows we will try the screen to Reece every 5 plays.
Everyone knows we only run to the left.
Everyone knows we never use the RBs as outlets.
what else…?
December 14th, 2011 at 2:14 pm
Question:
would Al Davis give Tom Cable the same pass most Raider fans are giving Hue Jackson for losing games due to having so many injured players?
December 14th, 2011 at 2:15 pm
44.DeuceDeuce Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 12:00 pm
Deja vu Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 11:59 am
Detroits secondary is banged up and are not that good.
No excuses for WR’s this weekend.
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Dont worry. We’ll find some way to not take advantage of the opportunity.
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That has been the way it’s been for a looong time.
Losing badly to teams you’re “supposed” to beat, letting lame QB’s like Caleb Hanie and Christian Ponder stay in the game.
I remember one year when Cincy was 0-11 and Raiders marched into Cincinnati with a winning record…and marched out giving the Bungles their first win, and I remember thinking at the time “THAT is so Raiders to lose a game like that”.
The Raiders find a way of making your worst nightmares come true. It’s a tradition. If u expect it, it doesn’t hurt as bad. I’m finally starting to come to terms with it being just “the way it is”.
But, we still love ‘em anyways. Once in awhile they’ll pull out a doozy and win a game like that glorious afternoon at Pittsburgh when Grads, Schilens, and Murphy pulled off a shocker.
I remember walking around muttering “Raaaaaiiiiiideeerrrs” with a smile on my face for a full week after that.
More of that please.
December 14th, 2011 at 2:16 pm
Its amazing how good Jason Campbell has become since he got injured lol…
December 14th, 2011 at 2:16 pm
“Question: worst case scenario
If the Raiders lose all 3 of their remaining games, does Hue Jackson remain HC and have a huge say in who the next GM will be?”
No way Hue is gone and as thin as we are in the front office I would say Hue does have a say how minimal it is we will never know.
December 14th, 2011 at 2:16 pm
Mr. Jason Campbell has an 11-7 record as a starter for the Raiders, not only that he is undefeated against AFC West opponents as the Raiders starting quarterback.
December 14th, 2011 at 2:16 pm
A few deep strikes and running lanes will magically appear
December 14th, 2011 at 2:16 pm
Hue said he probably would have brought in another RB if he knew McFadden would be out this long
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time to re-sign Sam Williams and promote Lonyae Miller from the practice squad?
Jason Campbell & Darren McFadden are done for the season, unless our season extends past WK17
December 14th, 2011 at 2:17 pm
bottom line on the jc thing is this.
many people never wanted him here, and said he would fail, very few like myself said he was a good player and would find success here.
people that predicted his failure were and are upset that he did succeed in his time and that guys who were in his corner could cheer.
get over it already, its over and you cant diminish his accomplishments
December 14th, 2011 at 2:17 pm
back to work – later gents!
December 14th, 2011 at 2:17 pm
All but 1 of our losses has been blow outs.
All of our wins have been close games.
NEWS FLASH : Were not that good.
December 14th, 2011 at 2:17 pm
438. Would Jackson bring the whore that accused him of bating her to away games?
Would Jackson beat an employee and break his jaw?
December 14th, 2011 at 2:17 pm
“Its amazing how good Jason Campbell has become since he got injured lol…”
LMFAO damn that’s funny as hell!
December 14th, 2011 at 2:18 pm
448. I meant “hitting” not baiting
December 14th, 2011 at 2:18 pm
427.aig-raiders Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 2:12 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 2:06 pm
Boller didnt win the cleveland game dumbass lol…JC did and thats known
show the 11
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Just so you know. JC led 1 score. Jacoby ran 1 KO for a TD to make it 14-7. JC left at the 5 min mark of the 2nd qtr.
So how did JC get the W for this game again? By your logic, Grad should get the W for the first SD game last year. Left with a lead as well. Either way, you’re checkmated. Any seconds now I expect an implosion by you and swearing to meet up with me at Ricky’s again to throw something in my face…..again.
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lol can someone tell the coward to scrolll up…i just addressed the grad vs sd thing…boy are you stupid hahahahahahaha so i didnt get check mated on it
….point is JC was the starter and was apart of us even having points on the board in the first place…..starters get the W-L attached to them not backups…you lose lol
December 14th, 2011 at 2:18 pm
Jesus you want to bet I am down lets set the parameters now.
December 14th, 2011 at 2:18 pm
Jason Campbell & Darren McFadden not going on the IR cost us 2 valuable roster spots that are sorely needed on a banged up tired team.
December 14th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
Raiders 27
Thugs 17
December 14th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
throw something? lol Coward I’d spit in your face and you would do schit
December 14th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
447. News flash 17 out of 52 injured
December 14th, 2011 at 2:20 pm
Ricochets off his meds and the mods ain’t doin skee-wat.
Out. Later real raiders
December 14th, 2011 at 2:20 pm
Jesus you want to bet I am down lets set the parameters now.
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Like I said WIN + 2 TD;s for Palmer = No posts from me for the rest of the season.
Loss + 2 INTS = No posts from you for the rest of season … COOL ?
December 14th, 2011 at 2:21 pm
people that predicted his failure were and are upset that he did succeed in his time and that guys who were in his corner could cheer.
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that’s a ridiculous statement, I can’t imagine there was a Raider fan that wanted him to fail but I do question if a part of you isn’t happy CP is failing
December 14th, 2011 at 2:21 pm
and vs clev didnt jc lead a opening TD drive? thats not big for a team? lol…coward you getting blasted again….you can never win vs me…you not smart enough…and you actually are a coward so a coward cant defeat the B@uce hahahahaha
December 14th, 2011 at 2:22 pm
Ahhhh the infamous “injuries” excuse.
December 14th, 2011 at 2:22 pm
459.inonewordraider Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 2:21 pm
people that predicted his failure were and are upset that he did succeed in his time and that guys who were in his corner could cheer.
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that’s a ridiculous statement, I can’t imagine there was a Raider fan that wanted him to fail but I do question if a part of you isn’t happy CP is failing
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Gay IG and Ninerwoman49 did…go read summer posts
December 14th, 2011 at 2:22 pm
Good teams adjust and win anyways.
NEWSFLASH : Were not that good.
December 14th, 2011 at 2:22 pm
Trade McClain and seymore to Atlanta forCurtis lofton and pick. Or try to get Dansby out of Miai. Who ever was requesting barret Rudd doesn’t know what they are asking for he blows the rookie that just took his spot Mccarthy is a bad azz though. I see no anger or any bad intentions from McClain he is not even a lb, dude has the testosterone of a male nurse.
December 14th, 2011 at 2:22 pm
I was one who doubted JC when we got him from Washington based on what he did for the Redskins in the past.
I was pleasantly surprised this year that we were wining games with him and hos style of game management did not bother me because we were winning.
I felt at times like he was a slow read at the LOS like he only saw half the field but like I said I enjoyed being 4-2.
Now he will be gone next year so why does it matter?
December 14th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
“No posts from you for the rest of season”
This means that once the playoffs start the bet is over.
If that is what you mean then I am down for the bet.
December 14th, 2011 at 2:25 pm
oh yeah and already got AIG the coward lying about JC’s game at SD…he lied last month and claimed he said he played SPECTACULAR….well B@uce brought out post that showed he lied……score another for the B@uce…coward gets whooped on here but i dont wanna do him like Jhill did…dont want no one to run
December 14th, 2011 at 2:25 pm
Now he will be gone next year so why does it matter?
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Mods driving up the blog hits????
December 14th, 2011 at 2:25 pm
Anybody on this blog…just for the fact you are here talking Raiders…the “Code Black” stuff, all of that, shows you’ve got character. Even some of the worst of the cynics (of which I am guilty on occasion).
If you can still walk into a sports bar anywhere in the country wearing your Raider cap, or your “Al Davis Lives” t-shirt..whatever…after all w’eve gone through as fans…then you’ve got balls and backbone.
Any of us could walk into Dicks Sporting Goods and buy a Tom Brady jersey today. Nobody puts a gun to our heads to be fans of this team. We actually DO have a choice. And yet we choose to ride with the Silver and Black no matter what. It takes guts and pride, and for that most everyone here deserves big time character props in my book.
December 14th, 2011 at 2:25 pm
465.Silverandblack666 Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 2:22 pm
I was one who doubted JC when we got him from Washington based on what he did for the Redskins in the past.
I was pleasantly surprised this year that we were wining games with him and hos style of game management did not bother me because we were winning.
I felt at times like he was a slow read at the LOS like he only saw half the field but like I said I enjoyed being 4-2.
Now he will be gone next year so why does it matter?
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someone who isnt a coward here…AIG takes notes
December 14th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
“DeuceDeuce Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 2:22 pm
Good teams adjust and win anyways.
NEWSFLASH : Were not that good.”
You may be on to something there.
December 14th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
Dakota, I’m in total agreement; they don’t even have to have DMAC back; just render the other speedy “playmakers” healty & see what can happen; given proper protection you’ll think a competent NFL QB is pulling the trigger. . .
‘Soup is a game manager; Palmer is a gunslinger.
Gunslingers have been known to throw as many as six picks (hopefully not a portent of things to come) in a playoof game. I just don’t expect second & five plays from midfield to be thrown straight to a LB that is part of a diamond cover set. . .
December 14th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
420.GoodOle00 Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 2:11 pm
Hue said he would’ve brought in another RB if he’d known DMC would be out this long
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So our trainers dropped the ball and cant diagnose? New DC and new trainers in 2012…
December 14th, 2011 at 2:27 pm
# inonewordraider Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 2:21 pm
people that predicted his failure were and are upset that he did succeed in his time and that guys who were in his corner could cheer.
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that’s a ridiculous statement, I can’t imagine there was a Raider fan that wanted him to fail but I do question if a part of you isn’t happy CP is failing
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you say that becasue you were one fo the fools that argued with me about Jc not being good enough to lead our team. You said grad was better and you were clearly wrong. I didnt say they “wanted him to fail” i said they “predicted he would fail” and you did as well.
i dont care what you question, i have stated my position on palmer too many times to count. He is the qb and if he continues this pathetic floundering lobbing hostess snowball into triple and quintuple coverage we are doomed. i have been honest about his performance in cicncy and as a raider, that doesnt mean i want him ti fail. if he fails the team fails fool.
December 14th, 2011 at 2:27 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 2:21 pm
and vs clev didnt jc lead a opening TD drive? thats not big for a team? lol…coward you getting blasted again….you can never win vs me…you not smart enough…and you actually are a coward so a coward cant defeat the B@uce hahahahaha
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Listen, the Rock is not a real person. The Rock is a character made up for entertainment by the WWF or WWE or whatever name they had at the time. You are a grown man. You can stop trying to talk like him any time now. It’s true that age aint nothing but a number. In your case, you might have added more numbers to your age but head is still in middle school. Class dismissed.
December 14th, 2011 at 2:27 pm
CP leads us to victory last 3 games we’re 10 and 6 and we’ll make the playoffs (tenn and NYJ will lose at least 1 out of 3) and all the int’s are forgotten. He wins 2 of 3 hope he’ll get it in year 2 like JC looked to be doing, win 1 out of 3 and let’s bring back JC
December 14th, 2011 at 2:27 pm
Hmmmm …
Both our OLBs are best suited for the 3-4 defense.
McClain is a 3-4 ILB.
Houston and Bryant are PERFECT 3-4 DEs.
Hmmmmm …..
December 14th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 2:22 pm
I was one who doubted JC when we got him from Washington based on what he did for the Redskins in the past.
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because you didnt know what you wee talking about
JC OWNS YOU!!!!!!!!
December 14th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
428.RaiderRockstar Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 2:12 pm
Question: worst case scenario
If the Raiders lose all 3 of their remaining games, does Hue Jackson remain HC and have a huge say in who the next GM will be?
Yes, and hopefully not…but in that scenario, the city of Oakland will want to burn him at the stake!
December 14th, 2011 at 2:30 pm
J Hill Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 2:27 pm
Hmmmm …
Both our OLBs are best suited for the 3-4 defense.
McClain is a 3-4 ILB.
Houston and Bryant are PERFECT 3-4 DEs.
Hmmmmm …..
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Can probably prolong Seymours career by moving to a 3-4 too…
December 14th, 2011 at 2:30 pm
477.J Hill Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 2:27 pm
Hmmmm …
Both our OLBs are best suited for the 3-4 defense.
McClain is a 3-4 ILB.
Houston and Bryant are PERFECT 3-4 DEs.
Hmmmmm …..
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Been saying this…Wimbley and Curry hold the edges…
December 14th, 2011 at 2:31 pm
The play calling can be a little more creative, the run on first downs seems like every time can he just call a pas play on first down once in a while WOW, he calls play not to loose instead of calling plays to winn he needs to be agressive “live on the edge” as he calls it, no guts no glory
December 14th, 2011 at 2:31 pm
475.aig-raiders Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 2:27 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 2:21 pm
and vs clev didnt jc lead a opening TD drive? thats not big for a team? lol…coward you getting blasted again….you can never win vs me…you not smart enough…and you actually are a coward so a coward cant defeat the B@uce hahahahaha
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Listen, the Rock is not a real person. The Rock is a character made up for entertainment by the WWF or WWE or whatever name they had at the time. You are a grown man. You can stop trying to talk like him any time now. It’s true that age aint nothing but a number. In your case, you might have added more numbers to your age but head is still in middle school. Class dismissed.
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Sorry but the Rock didnt invent talking in 3rd person…i got that from my hero Rickey Henderson who is from oakland dummy…lol try again….Coward IG just cant win here vs the B@uce
December 14th, 2011 at 2:31 pm
If you can still walk into a sports bar anywhere in the country wearing your Raider cap, or your “Al Davis Lives” t-shirt..whatever…after all w’eve gone through as fans…then you’ve got balls and backbone.
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Exactly!!!!!
I’ve been sporting the Raider beanie all week!
Including Sunday night!
December 14th, 2011 at 2:32 pm
people that predicted his failure were and are upset that he did succeed in his time and that guys who were in his corner could cheer.
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that’s a ridiculous statement, I can’t imagine there was a Raider fan that wanted him to fail but I do question if a part of you isn’t happy CP is failing
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you say that becasue you were one fo the fools that argued with me about Jc not being good enough to lead our team. You said grad was better and you were clearly wrong. I didnt say they “wanted him to fail” i said they “predicted he would fail” and you did as well.
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you say you never said they wanted him to fail but you said they were upset that he succeeded, isn’t that the same thing? And during the beginning part of the season after JC got benched and Grads was productive I did think he was the better option up until the Miami game so if I’m a fool for being wrong isn’t Hue a fool as well for benching him and aren’t you a fool for thinking Troy Smith should have been our qb?
December 14th, 2011 at 2:32 pm
Coward IG…bad when a middle schooler does you this bad huh? lol
December 14th, 2011 at 2:32 pm
The tebow thing amazes me. Why are they just now trying the option in pro football? If tebow can play in the nfl i can think of at least 5 guys right now who can run that offense better than him, because they are better passers, and runners.
December 14th, 2011 at 2:32 pm
Ricky Henderson was a fuhhggin STUD!!!!!!
December 14th, 2011 at 2:32 pm
Maybe we should run the 3-4 defense next year, we have the LBr’s for it
December 14th, 2011 at 2:33 pm
Arguably the best baseball player EVER!
December 14th, 2011 at 2:33 pm
When I think about Palmer he kind of reminds me of Michael Vick in that Vick will have a great game look like a 100 million dollar QB then the next 3 games he throws a bunch of picks, fumbles and loses because of bad decisions.
Anyone else look at it this way?
December 14th, 2011 at 2:35 pm
Why are they just now trying the option in pro football?
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Now this is one thing I will most certainly agree with on.
Going to be really interesting to see if this opens up this type of offense in general to the league.
I’ve been saying since the Denver loss that Tebow has me wanting to see Pryor on the field.
December 14th, 2011 at 2:35 pm
“Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 2:22 pm
I was one who doubted JC when we got him from Washington based on what he did for the Redskins in the past.
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because you didnt know what you wee talking about
JC OWNS YOU!!!!!!!!”
That is the single most stupidest thing I have ever read by you and you have posted many stupid things.
How else are you supposed to judge a player but by what he has done in the past. Be real Mystic come on man.
PS: Andy Dalton Owns you!!!!!
December 14th, 2011 at 2:35 pm
Mistic…. I think the league likes scoring … The option is low scoring conservative style football…. The league likes passers…
December 14th, 2011 at 2:35 pm
Anyone else look at it this way?
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He reminds me more of AARON BROOKS ! LOL
December 14th, 2011 at 2:36 pm
445.doesnt matter what name is on the jersey if we win everything is good .if we lose ,the more we paid for that name the longer it will be there before it gets changed
December 14th, 2011 at 2:36 pm
Dmac has to be back on the field by next Wednesday, he is a beast vs quiefs and that will give him a warm up game before we really need him in the dog fight vs sd. Then he tears it up in the play offs like we planned. In hue I trust , raider nation can’t be so negative.
December 14th, 2011 at 2:36 pm
The league made rules favoring Qbs… Especially Qbs that throw
December 14th, 2011 at 2:37 pm
He reminds me more of AARON BROOKS
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you aaron brooks sucked but joe montana would have sucked with our oline at the time
December 14th, 2011 at 2:37 pm
# inonewordraider Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 2:32 pm
people that predicted his failure were and are upset that he did succeed in his time and that guys who were in his corner could cheer.
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that’s a ridiculous statement, I can’t imagine there was a Raider fan that wanted him to fail but I do question if a part of you isn’t happy CP is failing
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you say that becasue you were one fo the fools that argued with me about Jc not being good enough to lead our team. You said grad was better and you were clearly wrong. I didnt say they “wanted him to fail” i said they “predicted he would fail” and you did as well.
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you say you never said they wanted him to fail but you said they were upset that he succeeded, isn’t that the same thing? And during the beginning part of the season after JC got benched and Grads was productive I did think he was the better option up until the Miami game so if I’m a fool for being wrong isn’t Hue a fool as well for benching him and aren’t you a fool for thinking Troy Smith should have been our qb?
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umm no
They were upset that he suceeded, because it meant they had to hear about it on this blog, most fans want the team to win no matter if the qb of their choice is playing.
I never said troy smith should be the raiders qb. I will say this about troy though, if tebow can play qb troy should have a job too. he was scapegoated and got the shaft. he is a far better passer than tebow, and just as much the leader. tebow may have a slight edge as a runner.
your a fool because you always try to come off as someone that was fair and behind JC, as if i would forget that you were dead set against him
December 14th, 2011 at 2:37 pm
True…except the Chefs game McFadden was injured in he generally tore the chefs up
December 14th, 2011 at 2:38 pm
Anyone else look at it this way?
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Not yet.
I haven’t seen Palmer put 3 bad games together.
December 14th, 2011 at 2:38 pm
One dimensional teams usually cant make it for the long haul. Which is why we are all saying the Tebow experiment will eventually fail.
So far it has worked but I doubt they will win a playoff game. Just my opinion.
December 14th, 2011 at 2:40 pm
Palmer is a good QB, hte problem is he still doesn’t have the timing down with he’s receivers, plus half of the receivers are hurt so he hasn’t had them all together, I think next year with a full offseason I think Palmer will show up right now it’s just not there
December 14th, 2011 at 2:40 pm
# Silverandblack666 Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 2:35 pm
PS: Andy Dalton Owns you!!!!!
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how did i say he was garbage? no i said he isnt as good as newton and i stand by that. he has far better talent around him and plays for a much better team.
nice try, but come up with your material and stop jocking my style
December 14th, 2011 at 2:41 pm
I agree… The Wheels will come off the Tebow wagon sooner or later…. I think we’re into Later already… I can’t believe the luck he’s had… Along with a very good D
December 14th, 2011 at 2:41 pm
X-mas list
a healthy Raiders Team
thanxxx Santa
December 14th, 2011 at 2:41 pm
Aaron Brooks lol. hahahhahhaahahhhaha
Marques Tuiassasopo lol.
Andrew Walter lol.
December 14th, 2011 at 2:42 pm
I think Palmer will need the rest of this year and Training camp next fall before he’s fully comfortable… And of course stability in his recievers
December 14th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
507…I’ll second that….. Just get healthy…soon( now)
December 14th, 2011 at 2:44 pm
for the record i didnt predict palmers flop either, i only voiced concern that he has struggled lately in his career, and quit when things got rough. I also said that the evidence points to a continued decline.
I did say i would wait and see what he is about, while others instantly anointed him as the greatest qb since gannon.
so far he hasnt even been the greatest qb since andrew walter
December 14th, 2011 at 2:44 pm
“nice try, but come up with your material and stop jocking my style”
No one wants to jock your style old man you can dish it out but you cant take it and all you got is “stop jocking my style”
Andy Dalton Owns you!!!
December 14th, 2011 at 2:45 pm
SD is balling cuz Gaither stepped right in and has been pass protecting very well.
I can promise you SD will run on us a lot more next time around.
December 14th, 2011 at 2:46 pm
So we can all be clear:
You and Hue Jackson are no longer in “Lock Step”
December 14th, 2011 at 2:46 pm
Palmer hasn’t Flopped…
December 14th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
# fingers Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 2:46 pm
Palmer hasn’t Flopped…
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it would be unfair to say palmer has flopped, but he is getting dangerously close
December 14th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
509.agree its almost like starting over every week with a reciever you have less than three hours of playing time with,,
December 14th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
your a fool because you always try to come off as someone that was fair and behind JC, as if i would forget that you were dead set against him
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your a fool because I said we should trade for him and when he did I thought it was a great move. You should get your facts right before you throw them out. And when Troy was available you said we should pick him up now your saying you didn’t want him? so you’re a fool and a liar
December 14th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
You and Hue Jackson are no longer in “Lock Step”
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Even I’m not lock step with Hue anymore..at least not since Al past.
December 14th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
Suh has old school raider mentality does he or does he not????
Would love to sick Steve wisniewski on sue in this game. I wish we had 3 guys on our d that played with suhs style.
December 14th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
I can promise you SD will run on us a lot more next time around.
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They have been playing desperate these last 2 games. That’s the way the Raiders need to play these last 3 . NO holds BARRED! SUPER SMASH !
December 14th, 2011 at 2:49 pm
Fire the team doctor and the trainers.
It’s their job to get the injured players back on the field, not to baby a bunch of prima donnas.
How many players have been out with hamstrings this year?
Have they heard that an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure?
Someone is not doing their job, find em and fire em!
December 14th, 2011 at 2:50 pm
Jesus do we have a bet?
Virtual hand shake….
December 14th, 2011 at 2:50 pm
No palmers not close to flopping… He came in off the couch with no Pre/ season and alias of injured recievers… What he 3 & 3…. That’s not near Flopping
December 14th, 2011 at 2:50 pm
Carson Bomber sightings Sunday. Mark it down, he will have a good game.
December 14th, 2011 at 2:50 pm
# Silverandblack666 Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 2:44 pm
“nice try, but come up with your material and stop jocking my style”
No one wants to jock your style old man you can dish it out but you cant take it and all you got is “stop jocking my style”
Andy Dalton Owns you!!!
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you said newton would be terrible n the nfl
newton owns you
you said jc would fail in oakland
jc owns you
how does dalton own me? i havnt made any statements about him other than he isnt on newtons level.
jocking my style, trying to be like me, and write like me.
There is only one supavillian
December 14th, 2011 at 2:52 pm
Not sure why it is never mentioned, buy Veldheer’s last month of games has been in the Kwame Harris level of play.
Tons of penalties, and terrible pass-protection.
December 14th, 2011 at 2:52 pm
# fingers Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 2:50 pm
No palmers not close to flopping… He came in off the couch with no Pre/ season and alias of injured recievers… What he 3 & 3…. That’s not near Flopping
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the book hasnt been closed, but 14 turn overs with at least 7-8 picks dropped by the defense?!?!
yes that is close to flopping, and i doubt any body would be that patient with any other qb on this roster
December 14th, 2011 at 2:52 pm
If Palmer has camp next fall and healthy Recievers and still slings int’s allover , then you can use the word flop…. Let’s just be fair about it..
December 14th, 2011 at 2:53 pm
palmer was brought in to take us to the playoffs if we dont get there it counts as a flop
December 14th, 2011 at 2:53 pm
fyi…. earlier some of you were deabting who won the Browns game Campbell or Boller? It was Lechler.
December 14th, 2011 at 2:54 pm
# fingers Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 2:52 pm
If Palmer has camp next fall and healthy Recievers and still slings int’s allover , then you can use the word flop…. Let’s just be fair about it..
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im willing to look at next year on its own, if he turns it around, but he was brought in to win this year. so if we dont make the playoffs this year i will count it as a miserable flop job of mammoth proprotions
December 14th, 2011 at 2:55 pm
# Just Fire Baby Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 2:52 pm
Not sure why it is never mentioned, buy Veldheer’s last month of games has been in the Kwame Harris level of play.
Tons of penalties, and terrible pass-protection.
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JFB you killed me on the tebow thing, you were right he is “a thorn in our sides” as i beleive you put it.
December 14th, 2011 at 2:56 pm
524,the price we paid he’ll be here awhile so he automatically gets more than half a season to be judged ,but less time than a number 1 overall ,i hope
December 14th, 2011 at 2:56 pm
For the Price Hue paid for Palmer you can bet he’s gonna get every opportunity to have sucess…. Or fail… But He will be the starter next yr
December 14th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
It’s a great day to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?!
Tebow revolutionizing the way the game will be played??
No.
Want to see Offenses run the way Tebow runs his? Find some old film from the 1920’s-50’s. There’s are reasons QB’s don’t run that much anymore — their Offenses are more predictable, and they get hurt more often.
A QB battering-ram’s career will be short-lived. Even if the style of play were revolutionary (it’s not), it won’t last long.
Average QB’s don’t have long shelf lives. If Tebow can’t pass the ball as well as run it, his days of starting in this here League are even more numbered.
NFL players grew up playing in, and against, Offenses that rely on QB runs and options…it’s amazing how many players (and coaches) can’t figure out how to stop it now. No wonder everybody’s embarrassed when they fail to.
December 14th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
buy Veldheer’s last month of games has been in the Kwame Harris level of play.
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Month???
Chicago game was a C. Peppers is a HOF talent though.
Miami game one(?) killer penalty.
Kwame Harris like????
I have more of an issue with the interior of the Oline who defenses CLEARLY have no respect for.
I’ll give Satele the benefit of the doubt and say that he is playing hurt.
December 14th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
# fingers Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 2:56 pm
For the Price Hue paid for Palmer you can bet he’s gonna get every opportunity to have sucess…. Or fail… But He will be the starter next yr
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even if he continues to flame out this year, that doesnt mean he cant bounce back next year. rare but not unheard of
December 14th, 2011 at 2:58 pm
palmer was brought in to take us to the playoffs if we dont get there it counts as a flop
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True ! WE gave up a 1st and second for this guy to come here and WIN NOW. If we wanted to wait and see until next year why did Hue give up all those picks now ? Could we not have waited to get Palmers elite arm in the OFFSEASON ?
December 14th, 2011 at 2:59 pm
Let me put things back in perspective.
Palmer 1.5 avg picks a game. Has nothing to do with rust that is his game. Go back to Cincy if you think I am full of it.
December 14th, 2011 at 2:59 pm
Mystic…. Fair enough about give him the benefit of doubt next season…but if we don’t make the playoffs this year it will be Defense…. Not Palmer that’s to blame..
December 14th, 2011 at 3:00 pm
Their may be some that would blame No playoffs on Palmer but I’d say it’s defense…
December 14th, 2011 at 3:00 pm
SD will be 1 game back of us (and the donkeys) with 2 games to play and they are healthy at some key positions.
I’ll say it again …
I’m glad the Donkeys beat SD!!!!!
December 14th, 2011 at 3:00 pm
Palmer says we have to win out…
also says us and the Lions have the best defensive fronts in the league..
Must mean were gonna lose out.
December 14th, 2011 at 3:01 pm
All I know is that Carson Palmer has thrown 13 interceptions “THIS YEAR”. At least Jason Campbell protected the ball and check down to the tight end or running back when the called play was not available. With the best punter in the NFL, that was smart of Jason Campbell and thats what Carson need to do. You can’t give your opponents a half field and expect to win. Carson Palmer has a strong arm and is trying to be superman out their getting picked off. Carson need to play smarter and check down if the play is not there PERIOD!
December 14th, 2011 at 3:01 pm
Tebow’s a good kid amazing how he is finding a way to win. His faith is part of his game like it or not.
It just kills me that he is on the Donkeys.
He may even turn into a passer before it is all over. The sky is the limit for this kid.
December 14th, 2011 at 3:02 pm
Cp played horribly last game. Cp played horribly versus KC and Den but I give him a pass on those. Yet his passer rating in all of these games was higher than JC’s versus SF last year… Care to comment on this?
December 14th, 2011 at 3:02 pm
Orton starting for the Chefs…
December 14th, 2011 at 3:02 pm
fingers Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 3:02 pm
Orton starting for the Chefs…
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Welcome to 4 hours ago…
December 14th, 2011 at 3:03 pm
545…agree
December 14th, 2011 at 3:04 pm
why did Hue give up all those picks now ?
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Well Marc Davis gave up those picks because he thought he would have McFadden, Moore, and Ford to compliment Palmer.
Would have been one of the top offenses in the league.
December 14th, 2011 at 3:04 pm
inonewordraider Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 3:02 pm
Cp played horribly last game. Cp played horribly versus KC and Den but I give him a pass on those. Yet his passer rating in all of these games was higher than JC’s versus SF last year… Care to comment on this?
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Carson’s whole game is he is either great or mediocre, but rarely horrible.
Campbell’s whole game is he is either mediocre or horrible, but rarely great.
December 14th, 2011 at 3:05 pm
Thanks Deuce…. Nice of ya..
December 14th, 2011 at 3:05 pm
545.RaiderReggie Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 3:01 pm
All I know is that Carson Palmer has thrown 13 interceptions “THIS YEAR”. At least Jason Campbell protected the ball and check down to the tight end or running back when the called play was not available. With the best punter in the NFL, that was smart of Jason Campbell and thats what Carson need to do. You can’t give your opponents a half field and expect to win. Carson Palmer has a strong arm and is trying to be superman out their getting picked off. Carson need to play smarter and check down if the play is not there PERIOD!
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Agree man! I like the way JC managed the game and I like the way Palmer distributes the ball around the field. JCs problem is he did not take enough chances and not a lot of touch on his deep ball, but he was improving. Palmer, fogets there is another team on the field at times and thinks he can place the ball anywhere. He can’t! His decision making in Greenbay blew me away!
December 14th, 2011 at 3:06 pm
438.RaiderRockstar Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 2:14 pm
Question:
would Al Davis give Tom Cable the same pass most Raider fans are giving Hue Jackson for losing games due to having so many injured players?
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I’m gonna go with yes. Tom Cable was 4-8 his first season (interim) and 5-11 his first full season, and HE ‘earned’ another season
December 14th, 2011 at 3:06 pm
Doesn’t the performance of your QB affect the whole TEAM . Look at the COLTS … There defense has always sucked , especially against the RUN . But put a dope @ss QB back there (Peyton.M) and they are superbowl contenders. That was why Palmer was brought in as a supposed upgrade to LEAD us to a playoff spot . But he has sucked this year and thus affected the whole TEAM with his turnover prone game. Blame the defense ,ST or coaching, but it all starts with the QB !
December 14th, 2011 at 3:06 pm
We will stay in the 7-9 to 9-7 range until we upgrade the right side of our o-line and learn to stop the run.
December 14th, 2011 at 3:07 pm
I still think the Palmer trade will be a good one..
December 14th, 2011 at 3:08 pm
552.DeuceDeuce Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 3:04 pm
inonewordraider Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 3:02 pm
Cp played horribly last game. Cp played horribly versus KC and Den but I give him a pass on those. Yet his passer rating in all of these games was higher than JC’s versus SF last year… Care to comment on this?
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Carson’s whole game is he is either great or mediocre, but rarely horrible.
Campbell’s whole game is he is either mediocre or horrible, but rarely great.
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BS man! Carson was horrible in Greenbay!!!
Campbell was horrible aginst NE!!!
What game was Carson great?
What game was Campbell great?
You can’t use great with either one of these players.
December 14th, 2011 at 3:08 pm
Good point…. Peyton’s one of the best … Diffrence maker
December 14th, 2011 at 3:08 pm
Jesus Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 3:06 pm
Doesn’t the performance of your QB affect the whole TEAM . Look at the COLTS … There defense has always sucked , especially against the RUN . But put a dope @ss QB back there (Peyton.M) and they are superbowl contenders. That was why Palmer was brought in as a supposed upgrade to LEAD us to a playoff spot . But he has sucked this year and thus affected the whole TEAM with his turnover prone game. Blame the defense ,ST or coaching, but it all starts with the QB !
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The Colts defense is struggling because they are built to play with a lead.
December 14th, 2011 at 3:08 pm
The way the Defense has been playing lately, they’d have a tough time stopping any of the high school teams playing in the CIF championship games this weekend……
December 14th, 2011 at 3:08 pm
You can’t give your opponents a half field and expect to win. Carson Palmer has a strong arm and is trying to be superman out their getting picked off. Carson need to play smarter and check down if the play is not there PERIOD!
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Who is disputing that? Hue? Carson? No. They have both said they need to get that corrected. You act like Campbell was perfect, or was BENCHED in favor of Palmer. Campbell CAN NOT PLAY… this argument is meaningless…
December 14th, 2011 at 3:09 pm
If Palmer can stay healthy and get his arm strong and not make those bonehead passes we may be able to do something. he has to stop forcing the rock around!
December 14th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
A QB battering-ram’s career will be short-lived. Even if the style of play were revolutionary (it’s not), it won’t last long.
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Well you could argue that there would be a much bigger pool to draw from so the position could sustain a higher turnover rate.
You think a lot of these players who never get a chance would take their chances on a 3 or 4 year career?
And if you factor in the guys who can actually throw as well as the guys who are smart enough to “run smart”, I think we could see those years stetch out to somewhere close to what it is now.
Going to be interesting to see it play out in th is copy cat league.
Suppose Pryor looks lights out in the preseason?
December 14th, 2011 at 3:11 pm
Fingers Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 3:00 pm
Their may be some that would blame No playoffs on Palmer but I’d say it’s defense…
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If we don’t make the playoffs I wouldn’t put it on Palmer..yet..but that is the reason we brought him in midseason isn’t it.
December 14th, 2011 at 3:11 pm
CJ Legend 34 Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 3:08 pm
Carson’s whole game is he is either great or mediocre, but rarely horrible.
Campbell’s whole game is he is either mediocre or horrible, but rarely great.
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BS man! Carson was horrible in Greenbay!!!
Campbell was horrible aginst NE!!!
What game was Carson great?
What game was Campbell great?
You can’t use great with either one of these players.
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Read what I wrote again before you emotionally respond. Your like my wife.
I didnt say CP3 is never horrible or always great. Same with JC… The word rarely leaves open opportunity for some instances.. Reading is fundamental..
December 14th, 2011 at 3:11 pm
Jesus Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 3:06 pm
Doesn’t the performance of your QB affect the whole TEAM . Look at the COLTS … There defense has always sucked , especially against the RUN . But put a dope @ss QB back there (Peyton.M) and they are superbowl contenders. That was why Palmer was brought in as a supposed upgrade to LEAD us to a playoff spot . But he has sucked this year and thus affected the whole TEAM with his turnover prone game. Blame the defense ,ST or coaching, but it all starts with the QB !
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Really smartass? What were our defensive rankings BEFORE Palmer came on board?
Remember the Buffalo game when this defense gave up 35 points in the second half? Campbell threw only 1 int in that game… and it was the final play of the game AFTER this sorry excuse for a defense had quit.
December 14th, 2011 at 3:11 pm
“you said newton would be terrible n the nfl
newton owns you
you said jc would fail in oakland”
Stop putting words in my mouth you don’t like it when people do it to you so stop it!
I never said JC would fail I have supported him all along I said I had my doubts about his ability to be a consistent starter because of his past in Washington big difference between that and hoping a guy fails. Same with Newton I didn’t say he would fail I said I doubt he was as good as he was hyped up to be and that Andy Dalton would be just as good.
I can admit when I am wrong but don’t put words in my mouth.
December 14th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
Most important question about QB’s:
Would we be better off now with Boller running things until Campbell healed?
No. We likely would be out of the Playoff hunt already.
Getting Palmer was the right thing to do.
December 14th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
# CJ Legend 34 Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 3:01 pm
Tebow’s a good kid amazing how he is finding a way to win. His faith is part of his game like it or not.
It just kills me that he is on the Donkeys.
He may even turn into a passer before it is all over. The sky is the limit for this kid.
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Tebow won’t be in Denver next year. Elway will trade him to Jacksonville (where he belongs) and then trade the farm to Indy for their first rounder and Andrew Luck.
December 14th, 2011 at 3:13 pm
Jesus do we have a bet or not?
December 14th, 2011 at 3:13 pm
If we don’t make the playoffs I wouldn’t put it on Palmer..yet..but that is the reason we brought him in midseason isn’t it.
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We brought Carson Palmer in mid-season to keep our playoff hopes alive, because everyone who knows what shape a football is KNEW our season was over if we rolled with Boller.
Signing Palmer was no guarantee of making the post-season, but he gives a fighting chance. We STILL have a fighting chance even after the last 2 stinkers.
December 14th, 2011 at 3:14 pm
The Colts defense is struggling because they are built to play with a lead.
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So Manning has never had any comeback WINS ? For the last 5 years they have had the lead in every game ? Great Leaders = WINS
December 14th, 2011 at 3:15 pm
Hue knows…no… Hue brought in Palmer because he had the opportunity when Campbell went down…. Tried to bring him in during the offseason..
December 14th, 2011 at 3:15 pm
DeuceDeuce Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 12:05 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 12:04 pm
I ask you guys is Travis Goethel a legitimate replacement for us at MLB or have we not seen enough of him to know?
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Seems just as slow as McClain just with better instincts for a 4-3 MLB.
McClain just cant play 4-3
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Vontaze Burfect or Tank Carder…or Both – those dudes play lights out (although Carder’s size may be a draw back….he’s so explosive)
December 14th, 2011 at 3:15 pm
“Tebow won’t be in Denver next year. Elway will trade him to Jacksonville (where he belongs) and then trade the farm to Indy for their first rounder and Andrew Luck.”
You are 100% correct Elway wants him out of there and as soon as he can he will run him out of town, no matter what the fan base wants or says.
December 14th, 2011 at 3:15 pm
So Manning has never had any comeback WINS ? For the last 5 years they have had the lead in every game ? Great Leaders = WINS
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Was the Colts Defensive Coordinator not fired because of how poorly they played this year?
December 14th, 2011 at 3:16 pm
We brought Carson Palmer in mid-season to keep our playoff hopes alive, because everyone who knows what shape a football is KNEW our season was over if we rolled with Boller.
Signing Palmer was no guarantee of making the post-season, but he gives a fighting chance. We STILL have a fighting chance even after the last 2 stinkers.
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You don’t give up a 1st and a 2nd for a fighting chance to make the playoffs when you are already halfway there.
December 14th, 2011 at 3:16 pm
Jesus do we have a bet or not?
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I’m down ! Did you see the post with the rules? I’m down and I hope I lose SNB ….
December 14th, 2011 at 3:17 pm
Jesus Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 3:14 pm
The Colts defense is struggling because they are built to play with a lead.
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So Manning has never had any comeback WINS ? For the last 5 years they have had the lead in every game ? Great Leaders = WINS
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No but I would bet they played an extrememly high percentage of their games with a lead.
So yes, their D is struggling because they are built to play with a lead. This isnt an opinion it is a fact.
Why havent you heard about Freeney & Mathis this year? Because they havent been sacking the QB, because everyone has had the lead on them and hasnt been in predictable passing situations.
December 14th, 2011 at 3:17 pm
J Hill Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
A QB battering-ram’s career will be short-lived. Even if the style of play were revolutionary (it’s not), it won’t last long.
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Well you could argue that there would be a much bigger pool to draw from so the position could sustain a higher turnover rate.
You think a lot of these players who never get a chance would take their chances on a 3 or 4 year career?
And if you factor in the guys who can actually throw as well as the guys who are smart enough to “run smart”, I think we could see those years stetch out to somewhere close to what it is now.
Going to be interesting to see it play out in th is copy cat league.
Suppose Pryor looks lights out in the preseason?
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Will Jackson allow Pryor to play enough? I mean he needs to play, and what if that dude is another Cam Newton (which is what they need in the worst way, a young, dynamic playmaker that gets red hot for the ENTIRE SEASON)
December 14th, 2011 at 3:17 pm
We were problably going to make the playoffs with Campbell .. So Hue said…. But he saw an opportunity to bring him in when Campbell went down….it wasn’t just to make the playoffs…. He’s said he’d tried to bring Palmer in before..
December 14th, 2011 at 3:18 pm
Tried to bring him in during the offseason..
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But what? The price was too high. I would bet the price went up with Hue’s level of desperation.
December 14th, 2011 at 3:19 pm
Calvin Johnson is going to tear up routte or Luton or ch. Hope mitchelle lays fagettron the fuccck out!
December 14th, 2011 at 3:19 pm
The Ravens defense hasnt skipped a beat without Rey Lewis the “QB” & great “leader” of the defense, why is that?
December 14th, 2011 at 3:19 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 3:15 pm
“Tebow won’t be in Denver next year. Elway will trade him to Jacksonville (where he belongs) and then trade the farm to Indy for their first rounder and Andrew Luck.”
You are 100% correct Elway wants him out of there and as soon as he can he will run him out of town, no matter what the fan base wants or says.
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Tebow already 3rd in AFC voting…they’ll run Elway out on a rail if Tebow is traded. Elway probably praying Brady has the game of a lifetime v. Denver for the “See, thats how a real QB plays” moment.
December 14th, 2011 at 3:20 pm
DEATHROW 55 Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 3:19 pm
Calvin Johnson is going to tear up routte or Luton or ch. Hope mitchelle lays fagettron the fuccck out!
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Translate please?
December 14th, 2011 at 3:20 pm
If you don’t think he will bring you to the playoffs you don’t do the deal..at least not in the middle of the season. You wait til next year. Period.
December 14th, 2011 at 3:20 pm
DEATHROW 55 Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 3:19 pm
Calvin Johnson is going to tear up routte or Luton or ch. Hope mitchelle lays fagettron the fuccck out!
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Only thing stopping Megatron is “Starscream betraying him” i.e. Stafford throwing picks
December 14th, 2011 at 3:21 pm
The Ravens defense hasnt skipped a beat without Rey Lewis the “QB” & great “leader” of the defense, why is that?
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Because they don’t have Rolando Mclain back there?
December 14th, 2011 at 3:21 pm
Had Campbell not gone down , Palmer wouldn’t be a Raider today…it’s want like Hue said” can I get Palmer in here to get us to the Playoffs… Campbell went down and Hue used that chance to get Palmer…I thought we’d make the playoffs with Campbell and our run game… Just didn’t know how far we’d get
December 14th, 2011 at 3:21 pm
DeuceDeuce Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 3:04 pm
Carson’s whole game is he is either great or mediocre, but rarely horrible.
Campbell’s whole game is he is either mediocre or horrible, but rarely great
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best comment of the day concerning this debate. 100% agree
December 14th, 2011 at 3:21 pm
You don’t give up a 1st and a 2nd for a fighting chance to make the playoffs when you are already halfway there.
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Your right, when you spend that much Multiple playoff appearences are expected. If in week 15 next year we are 7-6 and our playoff hopes are teetering and Palmer is struggling I will be the first to say Hue fvcked up real bad. Hue will not survive next season without a winning record and a playoff appearence (unless extenuating circumstances occur, as have this year).
I wasn’t talking about the compensation we paid Cincy, I was talking about what Palmer was brought here to do THIS SEASON. Of course expectations are MUCH higher going forward, based on that compensation. But you wont be able to judge the trade and compensation until at the EARLIEST the conclusion of next year. NO WAY can you judge based on Palmers first 6 starts, with most of his offense weapons on the sidelines or playing through injury.
December 14th, 2011 at 3:21 pm
If you don’t think he will bring you to the playoffs you don’t do the deal..at least not in the middle of the season. You wait til next year. Period.
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YEP !
December 14th, 2011 at 3:22 pm
CJ Legend 34 Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 3:05 pm
545.RaiderReggie Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 3:01 pm
All I know is that Carson Palmer has thrown 13 interceptions “THIS YEAR”. At least Jason Campbell protected the ball and check down to the tight end or running back when the called play was not available. With the best punter in the NFL, that was smart of Jason Campbell and thats what Carson need to do. You can’t give your opponents a half field and expect to win. Carson Palmer has a strong arm and is trying to be superman out their getting picked off. Carson need to play smarter and check down if the play is not there PERIOD!
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Agree man! I like the way JC managed the game and I like the way Palmer distributes the ball around the field. JCs problem is he did not take enough chances and not a lot of touch on his deep ball, but he was improving. Palmer, fogets there is another team on the field at times and thinks he can place the ball anywhere. He can’t! His decision making in Greenbay blew me away!
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I am glad somebody see the CP saga the way I see it. Carson just need to take care of the ball to give us a chance to win. You can’t give away points on offense.
December 14th, 2011 at 3:22 pm
Imaquaman Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 2:05 pm
im a life long raider fan BUT, the way our defense is playing doesnt matter who our QB or RB or WR’s are .
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Hello? THANK YOU! Defense wins Championships.
see Niners. Defense and run the ball (its built to win by November/DECEMBER)
December 14th, 2011 at 3:23 pm
CorkOnTheNFL #Raiders and Lions tied for most personal-foul penalties committed this season. Officials warming up their throwing arms for Sunday.
14 minutes ago
ceoshok @CorkOnTheNFL I wonder who’ll have the sorest arm after the game Palmer, Stafford or the officials?
10 minutes ago
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My $$ is on the zebra’s… A torn rotater cuff is possible on Sunday….
December 14th, 2011 at 3:23 pm
Fingers Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 3:21 pm
Had Campbell not gone down , Palmer wouldn’t be a Raider today…it’s want like Hue said” can I get Palmer in here to get us to the Playoffs… Campbell went down and Hue used that chance to get Palmer…I thought we’d make the playoffs with Campbell and our run game… Just didn’t know how far we’d get
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Yes if Soup didn’t go down CP would not be here. Obviously. What Hue said was “Palmer can get us to the playoffs so ill sell the farm”>
December 14th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
Our defense has 5 players paid in the top 5 at thier respective positions:
Routt at CB
Huff at FS
Seymour at DT
Tommy Kelly at DT
Wimbley at SLB
wowwwwwwwwwwwwww !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 14th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
You absolutely DO “give up” a 1st and a 2nd for a fighting chance.
As the Raiders are showing…the difference between being a good team and a bad team isn’t really that huge. A player in trouble here, an injury/ies there, next thing you know, you’re looking up at the leaders.
When the chance to have a fighting chance arises…ESPECIALLY when the season’s well underway…the team must go for it. When JCampbell went down, we already knew we had a pretty good team.
Not trying to upgrade the QB spot would have been screwing-over the rest of the team…these guys want to go to the Playoffs NOW (some questionable efforts notwithstanding).
December 14th, 2011 at 3:28 pm
RaiderSam Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 3:22 pm
Imaquaman Says:
December 14th, 2011 at 2:05 pm
im a life long raider fan BUT, the way our defense is playing doesnt matter who our QB or RB or WR’s are .
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Hello? THANK YOU! Defense wins Championships.
see Niners. Defense and run the ball (its built to win by November/DECEMBER)
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You still can’t give away points on Offense. Int.return for touchdowns, Int reurn to the 50 yard line or your own 20 yard line. You can’t win like that even if the Raiders had a defense like Baltimore or Pittsburgh.
December 14th, 2011 at 3:28 pm
But what? The price was too high. I would bet the price went up with Hue’s level of desperation.
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Again you can’t debate the compensation 6 weeks in to his tenure. What if Palmer DOES takes us to the Bowl next year? Will you still say the compensation was too much? You can’t know until this thing plays out. Not one person here, palmer supporter or hater feels good about what we gave up, as of today, but the fact remains that if we DIDN’T make that deal we would be sitting here, 4-9 record complaining about how bad Boller sucks, the defense sucks, how much of a pvssy DMAC is for not playing, AND I would venture to say that at least 70% would be saying ‘If Al were alive he would have found a way to trade for CP to keep the season alive’
December 14th, 2011 at 3:31 pm
“I’m down ! Did you see the post with the rules? I’m down and I hope I lose SNB …”
Yeah the rules are that if we win the game and Palmer throws 2 or more TD’s I win the bet.
If we lose the game and Palmer throws 2 or more INT’s you win the bet.
December 14th, 2011 at 3:33 pm
We have yet to have our complete team this year so as far as I’m concerned playoffs or not this season is a wash. When we go through a complete off season and training camp then we all can jude hue and the rest of the team. To many injuries and new players coming in to get a good feel for this team. Only one thing is certain Chuck B has to go.
December 14th, 2011 at 3:38 pm
598,bbwaahahahah
December 14th, 2011 at 3:39 pm
snort bwahahaha
December 14th, 2011 at 3:45 pm
Would love to be a team to be a 4-3 and or a 3-4 , we are a nt and a bad azz MLB (Burfect) away.
December 14th, 2011 at 3:46 pm
True u must have D but u also must have an O that can give them a rest unless u are the 2000 ravens. By the way the niners still suck easy schedule in lousy division is only reason they are where they are. They still need a QB but F@ck the niners anyway
December 14th, 2011 at 3:49 pm
I thnk we need to get rid of Chuck Bresn, our deffense has enough talent to be playing better than they have, I think the system were running and the play calling stink
December 14th, 2011 at 3:50 pm
Seymour vs Suh throwing down on the 50 yard line in O co. With the crowd going crazy. Would love to see that on tv.
December 14th, 2011 at 3:57 pm
Rams saints colts packers and patriots all won SB with avg defense
December 15th, 2011 at 2:29 am
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December 24th, 2011 at 12:29 am
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[...]WR Moore returns to practice; McFadden, Ford still out – Inside the Oakland Raiders – A look inside the world of the highly classified Oakland Raiders from the writers of Bay Area News Group[...]…
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[...]WR Moore returns to practice; McFadden, Ford still out – Inside the Oakland Raiders – A look inside the world of the highly classified Oakland Raiders from the writers of Bay Area News Group[...]…
February 18th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
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[...]WR Moore returns to practice; McFadden, Ford still out – Inside the Oakland Raiders – A look inside the world of the highly classified Oakland Raiders from the writers of Bay Area News Group[...]…
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[...]WR Moore returns to practice; McFadden, Ford still out – Inside the Oakland Raiders – A look inside the world of the highly classified Oakland Raiders from the writers of Bay Area News Group[...]…