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Final: Lions 28, Raiders 27

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Sunday, December 18th, 2011 at 5:25 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Quarterback Matt Stafford threw touchdown passes of 3 yards to Titus Young and 6 yards to Calvin Johnson in the last five minutes as the Detroit Lions came back for a 28-27 win over the Raiders Sunday at O.co Coliseum.

Losers of three straight, the Raiders are 7-7 and probably still a game back of the Denver Broncos, who were well behind New Englnad in the fourth quarter.

Stafford completed 29 of 52 passes for 391 yards, with Calvin Johnson catching 9 passes for 214 yards. The Lions, 9-5, remain in contention for an NFC wild card spot.

The Raiders, who led the game 27-14 with 7:47 left after a strip-sack by Tommy Kelly resulted on a 4-yard touchdown by linebacker Aaron Curry, got the ball near midfield as the game ended.

Janikowski had a 65-yard field goal attempt at the gun partially blocked.

Oakland also scored on a 43-yard pass from Carson Palmer to Darrius Heyward-Bey, a 12-yard reverse by Louis Murphy in the first quarter and field goals of 46 and 51 yards by Sebastian Janikowski.

For Detroit, Stafford had touchdown passes of 51 yards to Calvin Johnson, 39 yards to Nate Burleson and 4 yards to Titus Young, the last one coming with 4:59 to play and getting Detroit within 27-21.

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512 Responses to “Final: Lions 28, Raiders 27”

  1. RaidingTexas Says:

    I can’t wait for the Team Hue idiot posters to show their fkn faces here.

  2. Smoo Says:

    :cry:

  3. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    All you Madden Gamers who said defense didn’t matter…because if the offense….

    Give me a break

    Get a Jeff Fisher type in here and lets move on with it

  4. Dakota Says:

    May hue rot in you know where

  5. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Can’t stop the run and can’t stop the pass….

    Get a real GM and let him hire his coach and lets get professional up in here

  6. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Hue should be fired.

    Not taking the 3 points to start the game cost this team a playoff appearance.

    MF’ing amateur, Madden-edque bullcrap!!!

  7. Raiderbuck Says:

    How the phuck do you loose with 13 point lead with 6 minutes left?

  8. doriangray Says:

    why does carson palmer always do that.? take a sack at t=wrong dang time!!!!!!!
    god!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    at least the whole team played hard :(

  9. Dakota Says:

    Third and three and u pass? F u hue Fu u stupid pos

  10. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Ist Raider drive of the game.
    We’re on Detroit’s 21 yard line and Hue Jackson goes for on 4th down!!!!

    YOU ALWAYS TAKE THE FUK’N POINTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  11. mikedlopes Says:

    GRUDEN COMEBACK!

  12. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    All that B.S about scoring points…and elite QB…can take that and go to ……

    Need to start it over again

    At least this time do it right

  13. Smoo Says:

    On a day everything went right, Tenn Den Jets losers, we let the Lions waltz for 99 fckng yards with ease.

  14. Goldie7 Says:

    What a heart breaker!

  15. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Bresnehan needs to by shot in the parking lot. Pathetic f*cking loser defense!

  16. Just Fire Baby Says:

    MM34 and Jerome Boyd both had a play where there ENTIRE F’KN PURPOSE WAS TO PREVENT THE DEEP PLAY!!!

    They failed and should not be invited back next year.

    Fck them

  17. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    CArson is an ok QB….not worth what they gave up

    Mortgaged the future.

  18. RaiderDuck Says:

    Hue was not the problem.

    The offense was not the problem.

    Palmer was not the problem.

    Bresnahan is a pathetic joke. We need to clean house on our ridiculous excuse for a defense. FIRE BRESNAHAN NOW!

  19. hendu Says:

    Boyd needs to be cut,DC needs to be fired,NOW!Terrible loss,one of the worst,EVER no excuse for that CRAP

  20. REALLIONAIREB Says:

    Routt got abuseiz an unda statement

  21. shea801 Says:

    I can be Team Hue if he fires Bresnahan. SINGLE WORST DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR IN THE LEAGUE!!! How do you call a defense that puts your MLB in deep coverage on Calvin Johnson!?!?!?!? Bresnahan lost this game, not the players. The players weren’t put in a position to win based solely on play calling by the DC.

  22. morilla Says:

    Look at it this way, we are still in the playoff race.

    But damn, Hue ha some bone headed calls. And Bres needs to be fired ASAP.

  23. doriangray Says:

    just ridiculous!!

    i mean.. u know their gonna throw it to megatron.. oh i know leave routt on him by himself like hes deion sanders!!!!!

  24. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    At least you all learned a powerful lesson here

    Defense wins games….PERIOD!

  25. mikedlopes Says:

    Ey guys, it was a fun season. I look forward for our healthy offense next season. Going to be damn fun once these guys get some chem and we get a real offensive coordinator.. none of this razzle dazzle, video game stuff every other possession.

  26. Try Some Reality Says:

    Wow, does this defense suck major horse balls or what?? Holy crap.

  27. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    The defense needs to be overhauled….dump all the contracts…get a real MLB and start over.

    Get a defensive minded head coach and start over

  28. DarthPirate Says:

    We need a fuggin GM, so Hue doesn’t pull anymore “Greatest Trade of All Time” shennanigans, and we need a real defensive coordinator.

  29. Goldie7 Says:

    Instead of throwing to Chaz Schillens….Why didn’t Hue run Bush? I could puke!

  30. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    9.ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
    December 18th, 2011 at 5:27 pm
    Ist Raider drive of the game.
    We’re on Detroit’s 21 yard line and Hue Jackson goes for on 4th down!!!!

    YOU ALWAYS TAKE THE FUK’N POINTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I REPEAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    YOU ALWAYS TAKE THE FUK’N POINTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  31. 901Raiders Says:

    I’m so tired of this Sh!t…. This is amazing.

  32. DarthPirate Says:

    #29

    Yep.

  33. big pep Says:

    fuc this team and these sorry asss coaches, chuc mother fucn b should be fired for calling that bullschyt towards the end of the game. o.k. guys, i know where up by two scores so instead of doing what has worked for us were gonna get away from it and just let them catch the ball in front of you.

  34. wasbanned Says:

    CorkOnTheNFL Steve Corkran
    Coach Jackson’s decision to bypass field-goal attempt in first half, two-point attempt in fourth quarter come back to haunt Raiders.

  35. mikedlopes Says:

    Boyd was pretty awful as well

    That punt return penalty and him gazing at the stars in the other direction while he runs past a lob to Megatron.

  36. RaidingTexas Says:

    Sad thing is, even if they get rid of Hue (which I unfortunately don’t think will happen), he’s fkd this team for two years with that idiotic trade.

  37. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    DarthPirate Says:
    December 18th, 2011 at 5:29 pm
    We need a fuggin GM, so Hue doesn’t pull anymore “Greatest Trade of All Time” shennanigans, and we need a real defensive coordinator.
    ====================
    Hue needs to take his act somewhere else

  38. Dakota Says:

    Routt is a worthless pos

  39. Crimedog Says:

    I would have felt much better about not making the playoffs if we still had a first round pick next year.

  40. RaidingTexas Says:

    RaiderDuck Says:

    Hue was not the problem.

    ———————

    Idiot #1 steps up to the plate.

  41. Goldie7 Says:

    I am freakin sick to my stomach. What a pity.

  42. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    I have about had it with this shhhhh

  43. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    19.hendu Says:
    December 18th, 2011 at 5:28 pm
    Boyd needs to be cut,DC needs to be fired,NOW!Terrible loss,one of the worst,EVER no excuse for that CRAP

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Boyd killed a 70 yard play with that stupid penalty and then he’s on the sideline laughing about it!

  44. Chrisco Says:

    Goodbye Hue

  45. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Breshanan TWICE had a call where he threw a safety 35 yards down the field and said don’t give up the TD.

    MM34 in the first half failed and than Boyd failed.

    That ain’t on Chuck B, as much as I hate that POS. That is on “Missile” Mike and Jerome “Practice Squad” Boyd showing their colors as NFL safeties.

  46. Dakota Says:

    May hue choke on his ego

  47. nyRaider_justwin Says:

    Another f/ing loss. Season over!!!! Lets hope Madden joins and Chuck is fired. This performance for 57 min very good. Last 3 min worthless. Game over – season over – what a disappointment – chances are they will finish 1-1 – but I would not be surprised 0-2.

    Simply disgusted!!!

  48. Gerard Says:

    Fk this team.

    I’m done.

    I can’t believe this fing stuff just happened.

    ‘Stafford pulls off the miracle ‘.

    No miracle. It’s the f’ing Raiders.

    Why was I so cursed to be a fan of this fing team?

  49. Raider2DaHeart Says:

    Farealz.. Its Christmas week. Im not about to dwell like some of you guys all week on here. F**k This team today. Im embarrassed to bleed silver and black. Im glad i didnt buy anything Raiders this year. Im out!!!!!!!

    Merry Christmas Nation

  50. RaidingTexas Says:

    Mikedlopes Says:

    Ey guys, it was a fun season. I look forward for our healthy offense next season

    —————————-

    It will be a cold day in hell when we get a full season out of McFadden. I wouldn’t look forward to it too much.

  51. raiderfankirk Says:

    Players did their job. Coach’s sucked. Anyone want that first drive fg?

  52. HueKnows Says:

    Hue knows how to lose.

  53. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    Fire CHUKY B! pathetic…release Routt, what a POS! never ever blitz Mclain agiain, he joggs into a FB every time…Palmer aint no Tony Romo…really.

    Hue called a nice game, pity those 2 ling balls didnt get there.

    CHUKY B is a POS! a clueless inmbecil really.

  54. doriangray Says:

    r0utt can play dude.. hes good.. but ya know its the nfl and he cant stop megatron without safety help

  55. YoungAmerican Says:

    Total team loss, once again.

  56. Smoo Says:

    This is a heartbreaker that will be tough to overcome. And we are still in the hunt, but we are weak, from the coaching side down to the player personell.

  57. shea801 Says:

    I like the play call with the pass to Schilens. It would have put the game away; Schilens should have caught it. As I said, the DC lost this game not the players. And Hue just let a golden opportunity slip away.

    I guess we’ll find out at the end of the season if the Raider front office truly is molded in Al’s image, because he’d fire Hue for this kinda sh*t.

  58. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Hue = all sizzle no steak

    Been saying it for 5 months and nobody wanted to listen.

    That guy is an amateur.

  59. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    You always take the points…but Hue’s arrogance kills the team again…just like running Pryor in the K.C game…or his getting slick at the goal line.

    Hue is an assistant coach.

    Its time for the Raiders to go out and get a premium head coach, a GM with a plan and rebuild this team.

    This whole roster is really a false start. The amount of change on defense required to get this team right requires a very sharp mind.

    This is the worst defense in the NFL

  60. Plunk-It Says:

    Ok here is what we should do lets puts Boyd and McClain
    on CALVIN JOHNSON!! Brilliant!

  61. raidermarty Says:

    unfrknblvble
    this game sums up the season for us- victory within our grasp only to give it away. the stark reality is we are a .500 team a year and some decent defensive signings away from contention.
    GOD THIS SUCKS!

  62. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Sad thing is, the “Raider Nation” applauded Hue for going for it in the first half.

    They should have booooooooed the $hti of him for being a 16 year-old, Madden-playing buffoon.

  63. Plunk-It Says:

    All they had to do was put Routt and Branch on Johnson and Lito on Burrelson and put Mitchell and McClain on Pettigrew

  64. Goldie7 Says:

    We still have a chance for the playoffs but my goodness I’m nervous about us playing the Chiefs! The way the Chiefs played the Packers today leaves me wondering if we can defeat them.

  65. raiderwarlord Says:

    FIRE CHUCK B NOW!!!

  66. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    why have routt out there? better play DVD on Meatron all game, letg him learn, and everytime he gets beat just hold on 81 for a PI call, just like the POS Routt

  67. hendu Says:

    I dont care what happens to Hue either,goin for it early on 4th,not goin for 2222222 on the late touchdown,and WHERE was BOSS until late?What a sad loss! Bring back Chuckie,as in Gruden

  68. doriangray Says:

    and uhh boyd isnt even supposed to be playin dudes.. people are hurt . boys is a serviceable 3rd stringer at best . chris johnson needs to be cut and raiders must draft another corner & a defensive end .. and another saftey ,,, and another runnin back sheeet!!! monty ball any1??????????????

  69. Smoo Says:

    :cry: :cry: :cry:

  70. joker94583 Says:

    Gotta take the three Hue it’s just good football sense. That’s your difference. Teams that beat Detroit double and triple teamed Megatron and how many times was McClain on him single? Bresnahan you are a joke. Sickening

  71. DarthPirate Says:

    We can’t play a Tampa two. Mitchell fugged up, but how about figuring out something these guys are good at and sticking with that? We can’t overhaul the D anytime soon thanks to Hue fugging us over with the Palmer trade (Burfect aint falling, and neither are any decent D linemen).

    Best we can do is get a real D Coord, and let him and coach moron plan for the future by either dealing for picks, or getting guys outta free agency and hanging on until we get some.

  72. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Chuck B should be fired, but so should Mike Mitchell and Jerome Boyd.

    They are special teams players ONLY!!!

  73. Try Some Reality Says:

    Don’t get too worked up folks. Think about it, even if they win….does this team really belong in the playoffs with this D? No thank you. I don’t need another embarrassment like 2002.

  74. raiderfankirk Says:

    Needed a first? Throw it deep? Yah Chaz catch the ball but wtf was the call? Need a new head. Hues good at o but not managing the game. Directly responsible for at least three looses, if not five.

  75. mikedlopes Says:

    - Palmer missing 2 big throws
    - Boyd is bad (over running a lob to megatron and penalty on KR)
    - Routt < Aso (just a bit)
    - D. Coordinator is a clown
    - Hue is in denial
    - Special Teams, block for ya boy!
    - Seabass, I know that was in bro.. I just know it..
    - Pryor is the messiah
    - CHRISTMAS IS RUINED THOU!

  76. RaidingTexas Says:

    Shea801 Says:

    I guess we’ll find out at the end of the season if the Raider front office truly is molded in Al’s image, because he’d fire Hue for this kinda sh*t.

    ————————

    Only Al would’ve hired him in the first place. Hue is not head coach material. He’s an offensive positions coach, nothing more.

  77. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    FIRE CHUKY B! has been my motto every frigin day since he was hired. he is a worthless piece of hot trash

  78. doriangray Says:

    draft the best corner available and monty ball!!!!!!!!!!

  79. J Hill Says:

    Hire a GM

  80. Gerard Says:

    Why??????????????

    How do you let nthem drive 98 yards for the winning td?

    I HATE this “defense”.

    THEY ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY SUCK.

    They should be ashamed.

    These phaggots ruined yet another weekend for me. F these pieces of crap.

  81. Bring Back Cable Says:

    What?

  82. ggraider Says:

    I can’t count how many times I’ve watched this ending. I really don’t think I can do it anymore. Play a decent game and sh*t all over yourself in crunch time. Well, at least we’re improving our first round …. uh, never mind.

  83. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Meanwhile, everyone mocked Zack Miller and Robert Gallery a month into the season, and they are more likely to make the playoffs than us.

  84. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    December 18th, 2011 at 5:33 pm
    Sad thing is, the “Raider Nation” applauded Hue for going for it in the first half.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Not me! I’m sitting here yelling at the tv: TAKE THE POINTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  85. Twocents Says:

    The only way forward is to clean house and hire a GM with a plan. It is going to take a few years.

  86. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Carson is an ok QB…he’s no better than JC…

    THe issue was that Hue couldn’t get a backup QB prepared.

    Then his playcalling and decision making

    And the penalties and the defense.

    A legit “top tier” coach will eliminate the problems of penalties and reckless decision making

    A GM will restore the roster and get rid of the scholarships

  87. RaidingTexas Says:

    Goldie7 Says:

    We still have a chance for the playoffs but my goodness I’m nervous about us playing the Chiefs! The way the Chiefs played the Packers today leaves me wondering if we can defeat them.

    ——————————-

    The Raiders finish 7-9 this season. I will bet all $23 in my 401K on it.

  88. doriangray Says:

    yeah .. lol.. why!????????????

    why did the defense ruin our lives!!

    lets all kill ourselves cus we have nuthin else to live for..
    oh wait… isis love still does porn :)

  89. Try Some Reality Says:

    If this ruined Christmas for you, Mike, then you need to refocus buddy. Disappointing for sure, but there’s more to life than football.

  90. olinesux Says:

    yeah get the best corner available in the 3rd round…

  91. shea801 Says:

    At this point they need to NOT get into the playoffs so Cincy doesn’t get TWO first rounders. Genius.

    Ponderous. Effing ponderous.

    The more I think about it, the more I’m NOT on the Hue Train. He needs to be fired. You’ve got the talent to be a top team, yet you find every opportunity to squander it. Unbelievable.

  92. fingers Says:

    I’d like to ask Boyd what was so Fk’n. Funny after his stupid asz penalty brought that run back …

  93. Goldie7 Says:

    Hopefully the Chargers lose against the Ravens tonight.

  94. 18yearsold18yearfan Says:

    I can’t fault Hue for Bresnahan Al hired him so if Hue hires a real DC and the defense improves next year than he’s good

  95. zopi Says:

    Got to give it to HueSux at least he kept it interesting for 14 games.

    And is there any doubt out there that if the Raiders need to pull out a victory in the last minute you can trust Palmer, right?

    He’ll never be an elite QB that can take your team to the top. Look at today’s stats, great numbers, but a loss when it counts.

    Don’t forget to send your Xmas cards to Bresnahan and HueSux for that wonderful prevent defense, that couldn’t defend a duck pass to Megatron, what a shame.

    Got to clean house, HueSux first to go.

  96. Just Fire Baby Says:

    This team could be a playoff team if we had an NFL quality coaching staff.

    Instead we have a UFL DC, and a HC/OC that can’t keep a job for more than 3 years.

    Fire this whole staff, keep the players.

  97. J Hill Says:

    Why does Hue get the credit/blame for the Palmer trade?

    You really think Al Davis set up his succession to be a rookie head coach?

    Why don’t Marc Davis and Trask get credit/blame for the trade?

  98. doriangray Says:

    but why did they hire chucky b old azz anyway ?
    look wut a guy like romeo crennel can do with a dfense .. and wae phillips.. need 2 find sum tough fat dude to run our defense right man

  99. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Stanford Routt needs a big paycut

  100. Raiders Losing Streak Continues After 28-27 Loss To Lions Says:

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  101. RaidingTexas Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:

    Sad thing is, the “Raider Nation” applauded Hue for going for it in the first half.

    ——————————-

    Bullsh!t. Here’s the link to that quarter:

    http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2011/12/18/lions-raiders-underway/

    Feel free to scroll down and see the comments from those of us saying, “Take the points!!!”

  102. Breaking_Black Says:

    DarthPirate Says:
    December 18th, 2011 at 5:27 pm

    Never do shrooms and watch a Raiders game.

    **********

    Haha, sounds like the worst trip ever.

  103. Crimedog Says:

    On every big 3rd down this year, we seem to try the deep ball. Whatever happened to a quick pop over the middle to a TE? Just get the damn first down.

  104. Smoo Says:

    Goldie7 Says:
    December 18th, 2011 at 5:39 pm
    Hopefully the Chargers lose against the Ravens tonight.

    *******

    All the other teams that had to lose lost today so the trend should continue.

  105. DarthPirate Says:

    Wow, a UFL team hired Bres? I figured we got him from another bed and breakfast.

  106. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Jerome Boyd was laughing on the sidelines after costing his team 70 yards of field positions.

    And what did you see? Any coaches ripping him? Nope. Just other players applauding him.

    Perfect sign of a team with no discpline.

    Fire Hue.

  107. 504 Raider Says:

    49.Raider2DaHeart Says:
    December 18th, 2011 at 5:31 pm
    Farealz.. Its Christmas week. Im not about to dwell like some of you guys all week on here. F**k This team today. Im embarrassed to bleed silver and black. Im glad i didnt buy anything Raiders this year. Im out!!!!!!!

    Merry Christmas Nation

    ————————————————————————————————————–

    Man, Fhk Christmas!

  108. doriangray Says:

    well.. im finally in on getting rid of richard seymour ,., i know / i hope sumbody will trade for him.. and trade kevin boss too.. couldnt we trade both those guys to say —- the cardinals for a 2nd rounder ?

  109. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    J Hill Says:
    December 18th, 2011 at 5:40 pm
    Why does Hue get the credit/blame for the Palmer trade?

    You really think Al Davis set up his succession to be a rookie head coach?

    Why don’t Marc Davis and Trask get credit/blame for the trade?
    =======================================================
    Blame the whole damm thing.

    I want a real defensive minded head coach. I am tired of the excuses, the explanations, the “film study” and all that.

    This team blew it again because they aren’t any good…seriously.

    Hue made that move for Carson. Period. And what is Carson..an average QB.

    Give me a break man!

    Get a legit defensive minded head coach…a real GM and clean out the bloated contracts on that defense.

    Get em all out of here…Seymour, Kelly, Routt, Wimbley, McClain, Huff

  110. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Bullsh!t. Here’s the link to that quarter:

    ******************

    Did you watch the game?

    The crowd damn near gave him a standing ovation when he came out the TO with the offense on the field.

  111. olinesux Says:

    bresnahan woulda bern fine with al supervision but without this is what it is….

  112. DarthPirate (Hire a GM and Fire Bresnahan) Says:

    We could probably get a third or fourth for Seymour. Or a seventh from the Pats :D

  113. RaidingTexas Says:

    18yearsold18yearfan Says:

    I can’t fault Hue for Bresnahan Al hired him so if Hue hires a real DC and the defense improves next year than he’s good

    ——————————

    But you can’t fault Bres for not taking the FG, not going for two points, calling an idiotic 3rd down play, etc. All of that is on Hue.

  114. Goldie7 Says:

    Darn we had a chance to build our confidence. What the heck?

  115. 901Raiders Says:

    Chuck B, thanks for a helluva Christmas gift. Mcclain in coverage. Thanks again…. DAMN!!!!

  116. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Kevin Boss is a horrendous blocker.

    Worst contract in years for us, probably since Javon Walker.

  117. Gerard Says:

    64.Goldie7 Says:
    December 18th, 2011 at 5:34 pm
    We still have a chance for the playoffs but my goodness I’m nervous about us playing the Chiefs! The way the Chiefs played the Packers today leaves me wondering if we can defeat them.

    Who cares anyway?

    Seasons over.

    I’m so mad at this fing team right now.

    Absolute fing CHOKE JOB.

    HORRIBLE.

  118. J Hill Says:

    U guys do realize we were playing tampa 2 all day, right?

    Bigger question is why wasn’t Johnson doubled all day?

    Letting him run through zones all day?

    All day???????

  119. 18yearsold18yearfan Says:

    You all hate Hue’s calls but the thing is they were good calls at the right time. Each of those plays were open but Carson didn’t make the throw good enough. If Carson makes those throws we win this game

  120. DarthPirate (Hire a GM and Fire Bresnahan) Says:

    Does Hue have the authority to fire Bresnahan? I doubt it, but uf he does, I bet it happens. Not just because Bres sucks, but also because it will give Hue more breathing room to keep his job.

  121. RaidingTexas Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:

    Did you watch the game?

    The crowd damn near gave him a standing ovation when he came out the TO with the offense on the field.

    ————————-

    My bad. Thought you meant the Nation on here posting.

  122. Try Some Reality Says:

    LOL at JFB and Texas arguing. One’s talking about the blog reaction and the other the fans in stadium, and neither recognize the miscommunication. Too much beer. Settle down folks.

  123. doriangray Says:

    and hell.. trade mike bush too!! look trade seymmour , bush , Boss. . and our 3rd roubder for a late 1st rounder ,, get rid of crap ,, we draft monty ball to replace bush and we draft a corner ..

  124. fingers Says:

    In the 4th Qtr…… Are you Fk’n kidding ….
    And Baby Jesus lost in Donkey town….

  125. J Hill Says:

    Hire a GM!

  126. johnnyswing Says:

    Gotta leave it to Hue and his coaching staff for serving up another soup sandwich…

  127. armond Says:

    58.Just Fire Baby Says:
    December 18th, 2011 at 5:32 pm
    Hue = all sizzle no steak

    Been saying it for 5 months and nobody wanted to listen.

    That guy is an amateur.

    ——————————————————-not so fast cuz i was talkin sh!t about him last year.

  128. morilla Says:

    99 yards to go, no time outs. McClain on megatron.

    Papa and Tom ripping the defense right now.

  129. Crimedog Says:

    The coaches must go down, and they must go down hard!

  130. Try Some Reality Says:

    Bres wasn’t Hue’s choice. Guarantee you that. You don’t blame the head coach for everything when he didn’t have control of certain aspects/hires. Settle down.

  131. RaidingTexas Says:

    The Raiders can still possibly finish at the bottom of the division. Can you fkn believe that, given they were leading the division three weeks ago?

  132. Goldie7 Says:

    Smoo Says:
    December 18th, 2011 at 5:40 pm
    Goldie7 Says:
    December 18th, 2011 at 5:39 pm
    Hopefully the Chargers lose against the Ravens tonight.

    *******

    All the other teams that had to lose lost today so the trend should continue.

    ***************************************************
    Cool….still giving us s a little hope.

  133. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Whether the crowd was for it or not it doesn’t matter.
    Hue Jackson should have the brains to take the points on that first drive in the game.

    For fuk’s sake! Once again he goes for it on 4th down and it ends up being the difference in a win or a loss.

  134. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Bigger question is why wasn’t Johnson doubled all day?

    ************************

    I saw safeties playing 30 yards off the LOS to prevent the deep ball, and watched MM34 and Jerome Boyd do their typical quick-sand back-peddle and get blown by Megatron.

    Not on Chuck B. MM34 is pure garbage in space, as I have been saying for 3 years.

  135. fingers Says:

    The Raiders found a way to lose …. Again … And again …. And Again…

  136. RaidingTexas Says:

    Try Some Reality Says:

    Bres wasn’t Hue’s choice.

    ————————

    But both were Al’s choice. Need I say more?

  137. Try Some Reality Says:

    Morilla Says:
    December 18th, 2011 at 5:45 pm

    Papa and Tom ripping the defense right now.

    ==============================

    As they should be. They actually understand football unlike the “let’s have a fire sale” goons in here.

  138. Gerard Says:

    Palmer cost the Raiders just as much as defense with that pos throw to Schilens.

    You’re up 27-14 with 4 mins left and u still lose?

    If Palmer makes that throw Raiders win.

    YOU CANT LEAVE IT UP TO THAT PATHETIC POS DEFENSE.

    F SEYMOUR
    F ROUTT
    F BRES,
    F HUE

    Just when I thought it couldn;t be any more miserable to be a Raider fan.

  139. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    125.J Hill Says:
    December 18th, 2011 at 5:44 pm
    Hire a GM!

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Amen to that! And then hire a HC who doesn’t keep going for it on 4th down

  140. Goldie7 Says:

    Gerard Says:
    December 18th, 2011 at 5:43 pm
    64.Goldie7 Says:
    December 18th, 2011 at 5:34 pm
    We still have a chance for the playoffs but my goodness I’m nervous about us playing the Chiefs! The way the Chiefs played the Packers today leaves me wondering if we can defeat them.

    Who cares anyway?

    Seasons over.

    I’m so mad at this fing team right now.

    Absolute fing CHOKE JOB.

    HORRIBLE.
    ************************************
    Not over just yet. Our season is not quite over.

  141. fingers Says:

    Stanford Routt cannot cover Calvin Johnson…. Maybe with a scatter gun..

  142. doriangray Says:

    but who should we hire then u genuises ?? please tell me now so next season when youre all sayin fire him ill have on record u sayin hire him

  143. lefty12 Says:

    Armond,he loves to come and state the obvious and then take credit for it.

  144. Try Some Reality Says:

    Gerard Says:
    December 18th, 2011 at 5:47 pm

    Palmer cost the Raiders just as much as defense with that pos throw to Schilens.

    =============================

    LMAO!

  145. 901Raiders Says:

    I’m tried of this “We didn’t get it done Sh!t”. DHB played his A$$ off today. The defense put 7 on the board. Chuck B gave the rest away…

  146. fingers Says:

    A major Choke…

  147. da trinity Says:

    Idiots in room. The offense played lights out today. Carson looked like a legit QB today. Hue is not the problem, even though he should have took the 3 earlier but he is not the problem. If this defense were middle of the road we would have been punched our playoff ticket. We don’t belong in the playoff with our defense.. I was able to take this lose a little easier because at least the team showed up. I’m going to enjoy these last two games cuz its going to be a long offseason.

  148. Try Some Reality Says:

    Comedy hour in here.

  149. stablersbeard Says:

    Absolutely right that we need to re-build the defense.
    Dump: McClain, Routt,Mitchell,Johnson,Boyd,Seymore, Kelly, Wimbley…..

    But, How can you re-build with no draft picks? Cutting salaries will cause who knows what effect with dead money due to cap acceleration…

    What a mess.

    At least there won’t be a cap hit for firing Bresnahan tomorrow. No reason whatsoever to keep him the rest of the year.
    If Hue wants to try to regain any credibility with the nation, Bresnahan has to go now.

  150. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Palmer’s misfire of Moore was Hue watching his NFL career melt before his eyes.

    You call that play, it HAS TO BE EXECUTED.

    If not, that is on you as HC, whether is was a terrible throw (which it was) or not.

    You decided as a HC that Palmer throwing deep was better than Sebass kicking a 42 yarder.

    It fails, for whatever reason, that is on you as a HC.

  151. RaidingTexas Says:

    Doriangray Says:

    but who should we hire then u genuises ?? please tell me now so next season when youre all sayin fire him ill have on record u sayin hire him

    —————————–

    Jack Del Rio. Count me on the record as saying it. I will stand by it.

  152. 18yearsold18yearfan Says:

    113 we scored 27 points we had the game won and we just needed the defense to hold up for a minute and a half and 99 yards and Bres couldn’t do it. Personally I liked the call on 4th down that was on Palmer not making that throw, and what happens if we don’t make the 2 point conversion

  153. lefty12 Says:

    I hate to tell everyone this,but this game isn’t a season killer,we still have hope,however slight it might be.

  154. wasbanned Says:

    I have watched this team suck for 9 years now.

    Next week I will watch them again.

    Still my team. Just sad they suck. Doesn’t matter who coaches, who they draft, who plays QB… all = SUCK

  155. RaiderSean Says:

    I have just sent this to Raiders.com. I’m sure I’ll receive no response.

    Hello, my name is Sean. I was an Oakland Raiders fan for 20+years, and today I am no longer a fan of the Football team or the organization. Never was there more a sense of urgency to win than this year and this game, and the team like it has the last 20 years, blew an opportunity. I am disgusted by the lack of desire, the lack of will to win that made the Raiders organization great. I recently bought some Raider gear earlier this year to lend my support to the franchise. At times I proudly wear my gear, not anymore. The purchases I made will stay buried deep in my closet or drawer. Hue Jackson said he was committing his team to win, he has failed at every opportunity he has had. I supported him throughout the tough times this year, not anymore. How much dismay and disappointment, do you think we as fans can absorb without saying enough is enough. When will this organization finally grab fate by the horns and just execute. Off the field and on the field. This is truly the darkest hour of a fan’s hope. Dashed and discarded, like the past 10 years and the horrible performance in the Super Bowl against Tampa Bay. Well, this is where I stand alone, no longer a fan of the Oakland Raiders, no longer a fan of the NFL and I will never wear Silver and Black ever again. And I doubt anyone with power in the organization i.e. Amy Trask, Hue Jackson, or Mark Davis reads these comments and why would they. I’m sure I’m not the first fan to email a diatribe of disappointment and apathetically, I won’t be the last either, there are more like me and they’re coming to a realization that I just did, the Oakland Raiders are the most pathetic organization in sports. Mr.Davis let this franchise down in the last decade after having built it up. He was determined to build a winner again and he has failed yet again posthumously. I hope Hue Jackson realizes, he’s lost a member of the Nation. R.I.P. Sean Grice, Oakland Raiders supporter. Good day.

    Call me a baby,whiner, I don’t care. I’ve been a fan for 20 years and counting, enough’s enough. I can’t keep getting upset like this, they’re just not worth it to my diabetes.

  156. morilla Says:

    Hue just called out the defense on his presser. He said no excuses, 98 yards you need to stop them. No excuses.

    See ya Chuck.

  157. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    This team made soo many mistakes this year…this was just the grand finale.

    The Raiders need to go into this offseason and start over with a clean slate.

    Hue Jackson wouldn’t be a head coach anywhere…not after these cartoon antics of leaving points on the floor and his wacky playcalling and his down right stupid roster moves.

    Get me a legit coach. Period…don’t care about flash and splash…just a hard nosed legit, defensive minded coach that will fix the discipline problems and get this team back on track.

    this team is fundamentally broken

  158. stablersbeard Says:

    How much is Routt the PI magnet getting paid this year? I forget.

  159. armond Says:

    hue left 5 possible points on the board and fugged the season. he shouldve ran on 3rd and 3. bush was running well and he went away from him. he couldve ran on the 4th and 1 if he wanted to go for it. shouldve taken the the fg. palmer missed 2 tds and took a sack when he had bush over the middle. he fugged us just as much. bottline is hue is a fraud. he talks tough but backs out. run the damn ball in short yardage. he wants a bully but gets fancy. what a way to give your oline confidence by passing. hue needs to manage the game more than his qbs. he is an erratic coach so his team is erratic.

  160. Goldie7 Says:

    All we need was for M. Bush to run the ball.

  161. Blackmamba_20 Says:

    How Many penalties did Routt give up..
    Just disgusting….

  162. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Get ready to roll over the next two weeks.

    This team has proven time and time again (starting from week 2 on) that they are not ready to be winners.

  163. Plunk-It Says:

    Hue just said in his PC that he thought going for 1 was the right thing to do. LOL

    Someone has to ask him the reasons why it was the right thing to do.

  164. 18yearsold18yearfan Says:

    Also why does every Dc on every team but ours know to double CJ that’s on Bres you don’t let their best player beat you. You try your hardest to take him out of the game and make the other players beat you

  165. Twocents Says:

    Hue Jackson is crap. The Raiders are in the same place they were in the sixties. They need to find a man with a plan and turn this around.

  166. lefty12 Says:

    Actually,18,that is on Chaz.He got 2 hands on the ball.It might have been a tough catch,but it was a catch he should make.Other teams receivers make them.

  167. RedneckRaider Says:

    Take the 3 early?

    Go for 2 on last TD?

    Let Seabass kick the 64 yarder on the 2nd to last possession instead of punting? Guarantee if he gets two shots at that kick, he makes one of them. Take the risk and try to seal it there.

  168. Just Fire Baby Says:

    bottline is hue is a fraud. he talks tough but backs out. run the damn ball in short yardage. he wants a bully but gets fancy. what a way to give your oline confidence by passing

    ***************************************

    Real talk

  169. aig-raiders Says:

    You cannot have safeties cover 81. PERIOD

  170. I am Spartacus Says:

    Al hired Bresnahan…bad move. Al hired Hue…bad move.

  171. Goldie7 Says:

    RaiderSean Says:
    December 18th, 2011 at 5:50 pm
    I have just sent this to Raiders.com. I’m sure I’ll receive no response.

    Hello, my name is Sean. I was an Oakland Raiders fan for 20+years, and today I am no longer a fan of the Football team or the organization. Never was there more a sense of urgency to win than this year and this game, and the team like it has the last 20 years, blew an opportunity. I am disgusted by the lack of desire, the lack of will to win that made the Raiders organization great. I recently bought some Raider gear earlier this year to lend my support to the franchise. At times I proudly wear my gear, not anymore. The purchases I made will stay buried deep in my closet or drawer. Hue Jackson said he was committing his team to win, he has failed at every opportunity he has had. I supported him throughout the tough times this year, not anymore. How much dismay and disappointment, do you think we as fans can absorb without saying enough is enough. When will this organization finally grab fate by the horns and just execute. Off the field and on the field. This is truly the darkest hour of a fan’s hope. Dashed and discarded, like the past 10 years and the horrible performance in the Super Bowl against Tampa Bay. Well, this is where I stand alone, no longer a fan of the Oakland Raiders, no longer a fan of the NFL and I will never wear Silver and Black ever again. And I doubt anyone with power in the organization i.e. Amy Trask, Hue Jackson, or Mark Davis reads these comments and why would they. I’m sure I’m not the first fan to email a diatribe of disappointment and apathetically, I won’t be the last either, there are more like me and they’re coming to a realization that I just did, the Oakland Raiders are the most pathetic organization in sports. Mr.Davis let this franchise down in the last decade after having built it up. He was determined to build a winner again and he has failed yet again posthumously. I hope Hue Jackson realizes, he’s lost a member of the Nation. R.I.P. Sean Grice, Oakland Raiders supporter. Good day.

    Call me a baby,whiner, I don’t care. I’ve been a fan for 20 years and counting, enough’s enough. I can’t keep getting upset like this, they’re just not worth it to my diabetes.
    *************************************************
    lol

  172. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    stablersbeard Says:
    December 18th, 2011 at 5:49 pm
    Absolutely right that we need to re-build the defense.
    Dump: McClain, Routt,Mitchell,Johnson,Boyd,Seymore, Kelly, Wimbley…..

    But, How can you re-build with no draft picks? Cutting salaries will cause who knows what effect with dead money due to cap acceleration…
    ===============================================
    Gotta clean house and take the hit. Fill the roster with undrafted free agents next year…clear out the roster dollars…which are a waste anyways….and start rebuilding the defense.

    Its going to take time…but a real coach with a real scheme can get it back faster

    And on offense, a playcaller that respects the game and takes the points will be better than this Madden Football shhhhhh..

    Too bad we can’t send CArson back to Cincy

  173. Try Some Reality Says:

    Da Trinity – thanks for instilling some truth. Can you believe these clowns blaming a 113 QB rating performance for the loss. Absolutely hilarious. Not to mention the fact that Chaz got 2 hands on that ball.

  174. fingers Says:

    They still lack some heart….don’t want it bad enough just yet …just a couple plays here and there ……Fk’n lions wanted it more..

  175. Just Fire Baby Says:

    DVD got in the game just long enough to give up an easy TD.

  176. armond Says:

    the fugged up part was that he couldve setup a deep pass later on. run with bush on 3rd and 3 and try to get closer to fg range. go for the td around the 25-30 yard line so u can atleast kick a fg if u miss the throw. palmer overthrew chaz. chaz stretched out for it and it went off his finger tips. palmer needs to throw that better. dont let palmer off the hook. he had 2 huge bad throws 2day.

  177. Blackmamba_20 Says:

    LOOKING LIKE 8-8

    Bring Back Cable..lol

  178. Plunk-It Says:

    The Raiders will make the playoffs if 3 things happen. I’m not sure though if it can happen.

    Raiders beat the Chiefs.

    Raiders beat the Chargers.

    Chiefs beat the Broncos.

    Raiders make the playoffs.

  179. Goldie7 Says:

    My Raiders make ya want to bust a hole in the wall. Why are they playing with our emotions?

  180. wasbanned Says:

    #Huejackson talking same garbage as Cable last year. Its a process… we will get better… we are really close. Time to go.

  181. doriangray Says:

    lol at sean.. i am no longer a raider fan!! yeah right muhfkker … shut the hell up .. lol but anyway

    i think the raiders should shock the world again guys!!!]
    hire the first nfl female coach!!!!!!

    hanah storm ? her chin alone would garner respect .. im serious too.. hire a female head coach .

  182. PlunkforHOF Says:

    Totally sickening..everything going for us.. Donks, jets, titans all lose..And the team playing actually pretty well, then…

    The officials.. I know, I know but there were bad calls against us and non-calls in their favor.. NFL officating IS BIASED AGAINST THE RAIDERS

    Hue.. your ego is killing us.. TAKE THE POINTS

    Palmer.. up and down.. missed DWOW, missed schillens..

    Defense.. good, except when it counted

    There was just the hottest Raider fan here in my room saying how bummed she is, Her man is here too, we are all going to drink ourselves stupid. We are still in it.. CODE BLACK protocols remain in effect..

  183. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Palmer played well, but still left a TD and that last sack was the play of a rookie QB and not a seasoned vet.

    Just huck it out of bounds and save the TO.

    This team has no concept of what is winning football and it starts at the top.

    Go for it on 4th and 1 in the first quarter? Throwing deep at the end of the game with a lead?

    Not winning, playoff-level NFL football.

  184. 18yearsold18yearfan Says:

    And Palmer is more at fault then Hue. The two throws he should have had and you absolutely cannot take a sack when he took it you have to throw that ball away

  185. Raider Riff Says:

    jacoby ford makes that catch and takes it to the house.

    hue didnt lose this game. hue didnt cost us this season.

    we’re all in pain….including hue, trask, and the rest of the organization.

    remember how bad we were in the 90’s? it took two consecutive 8-8 seasons before chucky had us as an elite team.

    y’all know damn well that with some health, we’d be an 11 win team this year.

    many things didnt go our way today. an overthrown ball here, a try-too-hard fumble there, and a fluke blocked fg because of a rare poor snap….

    ….yet somehow its palmer and hue’s fault. riiiiight.

  186. 89706Raider Says:

    Thought the team as a whole played pretty hard today. This one should not have been lost in the last few minutes. If the 10 percent of the defensive plays that result in long gains could be eliminated… well, IF!! It will take some major changes on defense to eliminate those.

  187. kaisuva Says:

    Who’s balls do I have to wash for the Raiders to make it to the mother effen playoffs?????? How the eff do we lose this one?????

  188. I am Spartacus Says:

    Chaz got fingertips on the ball. He catches a good pass in stride. A running play burns up more than the 39 seconds the Lions left on the clock. We lost by a point. Go for the two-point conversion. Hue is completely out of his element. Assistant position coach at best.

  189. Raider Riff Says:

    HOW EXACTLY IS THIS HUE’S FAULT?

    1. Moore was open, Palmer just missed him. It was the right call.
    2. The Boyd “defenseless” block call was BS and you all know it.
    3. DHB fumbles while having a career day. There’s another 6 pts we lost out on.
    4. Shilens was wide open, another missed throw by a QB that was pretty much lights out all day. Again, proper call that should have gone for 6.
    5. Jano makes that kick if the snap is right. Again, how is that Hue’s fault?

    This lose is not Hue’s fault. We left 24 pts out there due to a lack of execution. We simply found a way to lose. But not because of the play calling.

    The fact that we arent in 1st in the division is because we gave away the Buffalo game (Chris Johnson)…McFadden is hurt….Ford is hurt….and Moore has been hurt most the year.

    Players make plays, and players lose games when they dont make plays. End of story.

  190. morilla Says:

    Just need to win the last two. Oh man, oh well. Hey at least they are relevant again right? I mean it’s better than the last 8 years.

    I’m trying to take this in stride.

  191. joker94583 Says:

    Megatron had his best day as a pro today. Nice job Bresnacan’t! DVD was all smiles in his post game interview. He didn’t even know the Raiders were 7-7

  192. RaiderSean Says:

    @Dorian Gray

    I’ll leave before this gets ugly. You don’t know me and to call me a motherphuker is disrespectful of you. I’m not surprised tho. Internet tough guy.

  193. Gerard Says:

    I GUARANTEE YOU if the same situation happens next week or the week afer, the Raiders STILL find a way to choke down the stretch.

    This defense is the most pathetic piece of f’ing garbage I have ever seen.

    EVERYTHING on the line and they STILL CHOKE IT AWAY.

    THIS D is a bunch of POS f’in g chokers…PERIOD!

  194. Plunk-It Says:

    Dam Palmer was 32 for 40 and 367 yards, but he wears goat ears for the extra he put on the ball to Moore and then later Chaz.

  195. armond Says:

    162.Just Fire Baby Says:
    December 18th, 2011 at 5:51 pm
    Get ready to roll over the next two weeks.

    This team has proven time and time again (starting from week 2 on) that they are not ready to be winners.

    ——————————————————-
    actually we will win the next 2. we lose as many as we win. just check our record. win 1 lose 1. win 2 lose 2. won 3 now lost 3. thats oue trend all season which is why i blame the coach.

  196. fingers Says:

    Wondering how Boyd doesn’t know you can’t block a guy in the back on a kickoff … Sheeshhh….basic

  197. Chris in NY Says:

    Hue, I love you, but this one’s on you buddy.

    - You go up 12 with about 7 minutes to go. Why the hell do you not go for 2 there? Why would you not try to make it a two TD game in that spot. MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE. Terrible, terrible mistake. Completely blown by the coaching staff.

    - I’m all for throwing to get a first down and put the game away on 3rd and 5. I like to play to win. But how about a high percentage 5-10 yard pass play if you’re going to do that. What’s the sense in throwing a low percentage 50 yard rainbow in that spot? Idiotic.

  198. Plunk-It Says:

    Hue was right though Moore did have illegal hands called on him on that 1st quarter play.

  199. WTF Says:

    Hey Hue this is not a Madden football video game. 4th down field goal range take the points (even though it is not fan favorite not to). Dont care if play almost worked at least go for a more manageable short yardage play. And thank you DHB you had a nice game taken away by a game altering season altering play. Have fun at X-mas and gear up for next year.

  200. justinh Says:

    Can anyone tell me why Romac and Boyd were covering Calvin Johnson on that long ball? WTF did Bresnehan call?!

  201. Just Fire Baby Says:

    If Huff plays, and MM34 and Boyd aren’t on the field, we win this game.

    MM34, Bruce Campbell and all these other combine warriors need to kick rocks.

    Football players ONLY moving forward. Not these “athletes” with nothing between the ears.

  202. jesusraiderjim Says:

    Being a Raider fan is like staying married 30+ years for the kids. The Freaking heart break of it all. This team needs to pull it’s head out of its ass. Al must be turnin over in his grave!\

    Just CHOKE baby

  203. RaiderSean Says:

    @Dorian Gray

    Won’t sink to your level. You got a lot of nerve. Let me come down and see if ya got stones to get in my face. As a medic, it’s guys like you that get in fights and I have to deal with you drunken reprobates.

  204. Chris in NY Says:

    fingers Says:
    December 18th, 2011 at 6:01 pm
    Wondering how Boyd doesn’t know you can’t block a guy in the back on a kickoff … Sheeshhh….basic

    ————————————–

    Except he didn’t block him in the back. Official called a “blindside block.” WTF is that? Never heard of that penalty. Seen that same kind of block 1,000 times before on highlight reels in the NFL. That was one of those “only against the Raiders” type calls.

  205. 18yearsold18yearfan Says:

    Lefty you can’t blame that play on Chaz. At least no more than Palmer at the very least they are equally at fault. I still blame it more on Carson because if he puts a little more touch on it game over. He also should have had that TD to Moore

  206. Raider Riff Says:

    Plunkit
    #194

    yep…32 of 40. and two were spikes. and one was dropped. and three others the wr’s got both hands on.

    that’s 32 of 34 in my book.

    and people say palmer is average. unreal.

  207. bcz24 Says:

    Try Some Reality Says:
    December 18th, 2011 at 5:53 pm

    Da Trinity – thanks for instilling some truth. Can you believe these clowns blaming a 113 QB rating performance for the loss. Absolutely hilarious. Not to mention the fact that Chaz got 2 hands on that ball.
    *************
    If Chaz just runs under the ball instead of diving thats 6. That was ridiculous.

    Chuck Bresnehan should be fired today. Inexcusable to have Rolando McClain and Jerome Boyd covering Megatron deep middle. AWFUL play calling allows for a 99 yard drive. Awful execution by McClain to get his ankles broken by a goddamn quarterback.

    I love how you guys are blaming Hue for the play calling. Listen 3rd and 3 he calls a pass that has 1 WR streaking, Palmer could have dumped it, but he threw it to the OPEN RECEIVER! How is that a bad play call? All you fake ass fans can go root for someone else cuz Hue is here to stay.

  208. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Kudos’ to the semi-pro’s for calling out the lack of going for two.

    I was so pumped after the TD, I really didn’t notice it.

    Only difference, I was 7 cocktails deep and not gettin paid.

    Hue was sober and receiving close to six figures for his “decisions”.

    Epic fail

  209. armond Says:

    fugg coverin up for palmer. if jc missed those throws yall would talk major sh!t. palmer missed the same money throws campbell missed and we cant say sh1t? i blame hue for not managing the game and atleast allowing palmer the chance to make that throw closer in fg range to save his azz in case he misses the throw. fugg qb ratings. did he win the game? hell no

  210. fingers Says:

    Ok…the Raiders better Wax the Chefs….

  211. Goldie7 Says:

    RaiderSean Says:
    December 18th, 2011 at 6:00 pm
    @Dorian Gray

    I’ll leave before this gets ugly. You don’t know me and to call me a motherphuker is disrespectful of you. I’m not surprised tho. Internet tough guy.
    ******************************************
    Don’t leave Sean! Just don’t give up on the Raiders just yet. Also, don’t let the Raiders bother your diabetes. We still have a chance.

  212. doriangray Says:

    ok .. sorry sean damn… we on the same team buddy.. boy i tell ya losing makes whiners outta all of us. i would kick yur crybaby azz tho sean ,, im just sayin .

    anyway .. any ideas ona new defensive co ?

  213. Chris in NY Says:

    I think every single win we’ve had this year has basically come down to the defense on the field inside the last two or so minutes in a spot where the opponent can win or tie the game. Finally caught up to us today.

    This week when Hue takes “full responsibility” it won’t or shouldn’t be just lip service like all the other times. This one is on him.

  214. 504 Raider Says:

    181.doriangray Says:
    December 18th, 2011 at 5:56 pm
    lol at sean.. i am no longer a raider fan!! yeah right muhfkker … shut the hell up .. lol but anyway

    i think the raiders should shock the world again guys!!!]
    hire the first nfl female coach!!!!!!

    hanah storm ? her chin alone would garner respect .. im serious too.. hire a female head coach .
    ————————————————————————————————————–

    Not a bad idea. We need somebody on the sidelines with PMS at least once every 4 games.

  215. Goldie7 Says:

    My Raiders can make ya plenty angry. Why are they messin with us? lol

  216. mikedlopes Says:

    We need Al back as our d. coordinator man.. ever since he left things have gotten progressively worse on defense. No wonder he was so hands on, can’t trust these loony toons of a personnel group.

  217. PlunkforHOF Says:

    #155… Fuk you.. enjoy your new relationship with the Whiners,, I assume thats the bandwagon you’ll jump on.. I am pissed as you can read above, but this crappy game, or years of weak play, or a fukking series of waterboarding at Gitmo will not make me abandon my beloved Oakland Raiders.. GTFOOH, forever

  218. brian_3520 Says:

    I want to see Jason Campbell out there practicing this week. Let him get out there and play next Sunday. We keep losing with Carson Palmer.

    We’ve lost 5 out of 8 games with Palmer. Campbell had the team at 4-2 before he got the collarbone injury.

    Palmer’s QB rating is 70.8 while Campbell’s was a solid 84.2 before the injury.

    Jason’s collarbone should be nearly 100% healed by now. MAKE JASON CAMPBELL THE STARTER NEXT WEEK !!

  219. bcz24 Says:

    I’m all for throwing to get a first down and put the game away on 3rd and 5. I like to play to win. But how about a high percentage 5-10 yard pass play if you’re going to do that. What’s the sense in throwing a low percentage 50 yard rainbow in that spot? Idiotic.
    ************
    Was Chaz the only receiver on the field? Nope. Was Chaz WIDE OPEN? Yes. If Chaz doesnt dive and just runs under the ball like a goddamn receiver is supposed to game over.

  220. I am Spartacus Says:

    7-9 guaranteed. That’s what we should all wish for. At least then there will be a chance the mangement cleans house, starting with Hue.

    Go get a bikini wax Hue. You are a LOSER.

  221. DKnight007 Says:

    Woohoooooo Chuck B shows his ugly face again by blowing a 2 TD lead in the 4th!

    Bye bye Chuck B it must have been nice not doubling Megatron most of the game and being stubborn and thinking you can cover him one on one in critical situations?

    Hue is to blame for some also….but if Huey stays, him and the new GM need to FIRE Chuck B and get a REAL D Coordinator if this team is going to go anywhere!

  222. armond Says:

    romac on cj is just down rigth ignant. nobody would call for that except for bresnahan. i still dont like how e cant score td’s in the 3rd qtr. this offense never puts a game away. a big part for that is hue. goes away from the running game when its finally working. that isnt aggressiveness thats just arrogance. arrogance our team cant afford. if hue gets fired i wont be mad. u dont put your team in that position.

  223. DKnight007 Says:

    Chuck B is a piece of crap!!!!!!!!

  224. Goldie7 Says:

    Yep…I’ll welcome a female HC anyday just as long as she likes to wear high heals with dresses.

  225. morilla Says:

    Would a , should a , could a… Knock it off. This game was blown by the DEFENSE. End of story. End of argument.

  226. al d. davis Says:

    Press on fans and Nation: do not dispair. Actually our past 3 losses is the best thing that could happen. Hopefully we’ll lose our last two games and be 7 and 9. Understand that Al Davis was a raving maniac, flush with dementia for the past 20 years. He should have been thrown out of league after our last Super Bowl win in 1983 once he figured out winning lawsuits was more lucrative than winning football games. Except for the Gruden anamoly the Raiders have been total losers since 1983. For those among us who believe Al was a genius consider this: who would fire Gruden only to allow Gruden to transfer to the Bucs, so that he could beat us in the 2002 Super Bowl? That’s no genius, it’s jackass. Just remember we are experiencing the bad fruit of Big AL’s helmsmanship over the team. Hopefully, this season will expose the futility of it all. Hue, as Al’s pick for head coach, must go. He is far too unintelligent to be a head coach. Of course Chuckie has to go in favor of a real DC and at least 50 of the current players on roster must be cut and/or traded, including Darren McFadden who can’t produce because of serial foot injuries, and who has never produced while playing top tier teams.

    Our message to Amy and Mark: go forth boldly; hire a brilliant GM, head coach and DC, give them autonomous power and let the Raiders flourish.

    And any thought of retaining Hue ? He is a black pimp, huckster, snakeoil salesman disguised as a head coach in the NFL.

  227. Gerard Says:

    ONLY the Raiders could choke away a game like this.

  228. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    This team loses too many games due to “insert excuse”

    The roster on defense needs to be overhauled.

    Hue has been unable to instill discipline and his playcalling is very risk overloaded.

    I don’t care if its the players (replace them) or the coach (replace them)….this team needs a big time overhaul and not just a tune up.

    Get a legit coach that doesn’t lead the league in penalties every freekn year…get a coach that the Raiders have to compete for.

    Let’s follow the script on this one.

  229. bcz24 Says:

    Bye bye Chuck B it must have been nice not doubling Megatron most of the game and being stubborn and thinking you can cover him one on one in critical situations?
    *****************
    They didnt even SINGLE him. Calvin was free to run roughshod through our piss poor zone coverage all day

  230. DKnight007 Says:

    Huey needs to stay at least one more year and be given the chance to compete with a freakin REAL NFL D Coordinator!!!!

  231. Chris in NY Says:

    Seriously? Your guys’ takeaway from that game is that it’s on Carson Palmer? That’s the dumbest thing I’ve heard all week.

  232. Gerard Says:

    Big time players make big plays when it counts.

    I don’t care what Palmers #’s were. When it was on the line..he failed. Period.

    THEN, the defense do what they do EVERY F’ING TIME.

    Let a team drive down the field NO MATTER HOW FAR THEY HAVE TO GO at the end.

    Fing chokers…period.

  233. 504 Raider Says:

    218.brian_3520 Says:
    December 18th, 2011 at 6:07 pm
    I want to see Jason Campbell out there practicing this week. Let him get out there and play next Sunday. We keep losing with Carson Palmer.

    ————————————————————————————————————–

    Not going to happen. Jason has a “Shoulder.”

  234. DKnight007 Says:

    If Huey gets fired, then here we go with the franchise starting all over again and the offense regressing.

    Huey needs to be given a chance with a REAL DC…if he still fails with a REAL DC running the D, then he should get fired!!

  235. Chris in NY Says:

    Too bad that Jano kick was deflected. Would’ve loved to see that one get a real ride.

  236. brian_3520 Says:

    If Hue Jackson gets fired, I think the Raiders should try to get Jeff Fisher … the former Tennessee Titans head coach. Jeff did pretty well with the Titans and coached there a long time.

    He grew in in L.A. and went to USC so he might be fired up about going back to Cali and coaching the Raiders.

  237. Gerard Says:

    When it counted most Palmer choked. How can anyone dispute that?

    Defense is MORE to blame for not stopping them….yeah big f’ing surprise.

  238. Pretty Rick Says:

    I feel like I’m the only one who predicted the Raiders to lose this game. Deep down I just knew they would find a way to.

    Raiders-16 Chiefs-23

  239. Gerard Says:

    ONE YARD LINE WITH NO TIMEOUTS LEFT…

    ONLY THE F’ING RAIDERS.

  240. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Here is the deal with the Raiders.

    Other teams have players that come up in money time. Like Stafford and CJ.

    The Raiders money players don’t do shhhhhhh….flash a play here and there…and wow you with an occasional play.

    But when you look at that scoreboard…its all the same.

    And with all the holes and no picks….disgraceful

  241. mikedlopes Says:

    I want to see Jason Campbell out there practicing this week. Let him get out there and play next Sunday. We keep losing with Carson Palmer.

    We’ve lost 5 out of 8 games with Palmer. Campbell had the team at 4-2 before he got the collarbone injury.

    Palmer’s QB rating is 70.8 while Campbell’s was a solid 84.2 before the injury.

    Jason’s collarbone should be nearly 100% healed by now. MAKE JASON CAMPBELL THE STARTER NEXT WEEK !!

    ______________________

    To be fair, Jason Campbell has Ford, Moore, DMC around him. They made up about 50% of our offense.

  242. bcz24 Says:

    DKnight007 Says:
    December 18th, 2011 at 6:11 pm

    Huey needs to stay at least one more year and be given the chance to compete with a freakin REAL NFL D Coordinator!!!!
    ************
    Don’t worry bro. If the ignorant as$holes in here were in charge we would have 9 head coaches a season. In NFL reality that shiz doesnt happen.

  243. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Ford has hardly played this year.

  244. BadMoodGuy Says:

    Boyd is pathetic.

  245. Goldie7 Says:

    Yep the Raiders can make ye angry! However…we are not out of the playoffs picture. Maybe on game day our team need to chant like Drew Brees and them.

  246. RaiderSean Says:

    The last time we had a top 5 defense Willie Shaw was the D Coordinator. I don’t think he wants the job.

    Del Rio would be great, maybe he still thinks he’s a HC material.

    I wouldn’t mind bringing in Teryl Austin or Roy Anderson from Baltimore.

    I know one thing Dorian, WTF is Hue Jackson’s fate? I think he talks out of his ass half the time bro, I mean is it me, maybe I’m a little phuked up, he’s not working out as a leader of men.

  247. bcz24 Says:

    Gerard Says:
    December 18th, 2011 at 6:13 pm

    When it counted most Palmer choked. How can anyone dispute that?

    Defense is MORE to blame for not stopping them….yeah big f’ing surprise.
    ****************
    I can dispute that easily. Palmer threw to a wide open receiver and led him to the endzone. Chaz dove like a fvckin moron and got TWO HANDS on the ball and didnt make the catch.

  248. DKnight007 Says:

    For those of you clowns who want to fire Huey, tell me is there anyone better who is going to replace him??

    The answer is probably no.

    Chuck B needs to be replaced with a REAL DC, like Steve Spagnolo or Del Rio.

    If Huey still messes up with a REAL DC running the D, then Huey deserves to get fired.

    Changing head coaches every year is NOT a good thing!!

  249. 18yearsold18yearfan Says:

    Actually Mike Canpbell didn’t have Ford I don’t think he played anymore than 1 game with Campbell

  250. Raider Riff Says:

    #242

    bingo

  251. Chris in NY Says:

    Gerard Says:
    December 18th, 2011 at 6:13 pm
    When it counted most Palmer choked. How can anyone dispute that?

    Defense is MORE to blame for not stopping them….yeah big f’ing surprise.

    ———————–

    Choked? By putting a low-percentage throw in a spot where the receiver definitely could have made the catch? What are you even talking about.

  252. PK28 Says:

    4-2 to 7-7…best trade ever…

  253. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “Gerard Says:
    December 18th, 2011 at 6:13 pm

    When it counted most Palmer choked. How can anyone dispute that?

    Defense is MORE to blame for not stopping them….yeah big f’ing surprise.
    ****************
    I can dispute that easily. Palmer threw to a wide open receiver and led him to the endzone. Chaz dove like a fvckin moron and got TWO HANDS on the ball and didnt make the catch.”

    Also on that pass to Denarius Moore…. the pass was on the money but Moore was held while breaking for the ball.

  254. DKnight007 Says:

    When it counted most…the DEFENSE choked….again!

    The DEFENSE led by some piece of crap named Chuck B!!

  255. armond Says:

    palmer and hue along with the defense deserve blame. if he was elite he doesnt miss both throws.just make 1 and its over. i knew the defense would fugg up. that goes without saying. im really sick of this team not putting teams away on offense. we need to score 40 so we dont have to worry about our defense. a 13 point lead with 6 minutes left isnt safe. that is just disgusting.

  256. Guy Says:

    Only problem I had with Routt all game was that last PI. I dont get why he would hold on that long, even if he gave up the td atleast we would have had more time to work with.

  257. DaTruth91 Says:

    just disappointment. Probably the worst lose in the last few years, just because of the playoff implications.

    Reasons why we lost:
    1. Bresh is the WORST DC in the league… All they did was hide Calvin Johnson in the slot and his idiotic ass, couldn’t adjust.

    2. Boyd ( for obvious reasons) he needs to go and take Giardonio with him.

    3. Hue jackson. as much hate as he gets on here, the PLAYERS NEED TO MAKE

  258. silverback Says:

    Pretty Rick Says:
    December 18th, 2011 at 6:13 pm
    I feel like I’m the only one who predicted the Raiders to lose this game. Deep down I just knew they would find a way to.

    —–
    Congratulations.

  259. Raider Riff Says:

    #253

    youre an idiot.

    we were 4-2 cause we had the leading rusher in the league. our secondary was healthy. and our starting WR’s were DHB and Moore.

    CP3 puts up huge numbers when he has Moore, DHB, and Ford in the lineup.

    Fools, all of you.

  260. I am Spartacus Says:

    Hue is a complete joke, so firing him would be a good idea. Once he gets fired, he’ll never be a head coach in this league again.

  261. 504 Raider Says:

    The Raiders practices need to last 3 min each on Wed, Thurs, and Friday. That’s all they need to work on. Nothing else they’re doing is working anyway in practice. Intensity my A55. Just go out to the practice field those days, put 3 minutes on the clock, when it runs out, go home.

    Chuck B can go back in and finish his corn beef hash sandwich. Hue can go get his nails done.

  262. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “4-2 to 7-7…best trade ever…”

    4-2 then no McFadden….Ford Moore etc

  263. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    I’ll throw out Jeff Fisher’s name right now. Get me a defensive guy and let him keep Saunders around if he wants “continuity”

    Although an offense that is based on the the health of DMAC is a little shaky don’t you think?

  264. Goldie7 Says:

    With the Patriots winning…ESPN will boldly brag about them being the best Team in the NFL history or best team that ever exsisted! My goodness I hate the way they worship the Patriots…with a passion. That’s one reason I don’t watch ESPN because of the way they praise the Patriots.

  265. dcraiderfan Says:

    Again another flippin lose!!!! On top of that idiot Palmer lokking to the wrong man down field! Had two open players to dump the ball to. Hue, what the flip were you thinking bring that loser crybaby here!!! The flippin’ defense rest on its laurels again and again, to many stupid penalties again on the team and fault Hue for the last four loses!! Don’t the players get it by now!!! Let the team recoup the money for stupid penalties the players commit and fine them steeply. Get rid of Palmer, now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  266. qodrn1 Says:

    Did I see a whole stadium of people who were convinced Seabass was gonna win the game on their feet? Wow!

  267. silverback Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    December 18th, 2011 at 6:19 pm
    “Gerard Says:
    December 18th, 2011 at 6:13 pm

    When it counted most Palmer choked. How can anyone dispute that?

    Defense is MORE to blame for not stopping them….yeah big f’ing surprise.
    ****************
    I can dispute that easily. Palmer threw to a wide open receiver and led him to the endzone. Chaz dove like a fvckin moron and got TWO HANDS on the ball and didnt make the catch.”

    Also on that pass to Denarius Moore…. the pass was on the money but Moore was held while breaking for the ball.
    —–
    Good post. I thought Chaz had a burst to run under that. Moore had that burst but was held at the perfect moment.

  268. Silverandblack666 Says:

    If Hue kicks that field goal 1st quarter instead of going for it on 4th down we win this game!

  269. DAARAIDERS Says:

    Hue Jackson is an idiot. There was nothing to gain by going for 1 point after last TD. The only call is to go for 2 with that amount of time left. Also, not taking the Field Goal early in the game was stupid, not the reason we lost but stupid. And finally, Breshnahan should be fired today, not after the season ends. How do you lgive up 2 TD’s in final 5 + minutes and let them drive 98 yds for game winner.

  270. DKnight007 Says:

    Why does Chuck B go cover 2 when he should know they need a TD!!

    How about rolling some coverage to their best play maker CJ and blitz McClain up the middle and then putting the outside LB’s to roam the middle of the field.

    Or why not call a backside corner blitz?

  271. DaTruth91 Says:

    if hue gets fired,……nothing. its not going to happen. since when does a rookie coach , that loses his starting QB, RB and WR get fired. Please enough of that talk

    Hue made some mistakes that hurt, but he’s still the best coach we’ve had since Gruden. Give him time

  272. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    I am tired of the excuses. This is a bad team

  273. Chris in NY Says:

    I can’t even stay in here. You guys pinning this one on Palmer is

    The guy completes 80% of his passes for better than 9 yards per attempt. And you are trying to tell me if Campbell were playing we would’ve won.

    You guys are so, so, so, so, so stupid. Or you’re trolls and I’m stupidly falling for it. Either way, I’m so f-ing pissed about this one I can’t stand to rehash it anymore.

    Guys played hard, deserved to win this one. Coaching errors and a bunch of plays that almost were, but weren’t doomed us. We’re probably finished. And we probably would’ve gotten in if we had won.

    Awful loss. Maybe the worst I’ve seen since the Super Bowl. Probably the most heart-breaking since the Tuck Rule game considering what was on the line.

  274. mikedlopes Says:

    You guys remember Chimdi Chekwa, that guy was BALLIN’ before he got hurt. Make Lito and Dyke look like high school players.

  275. mikedlopes Says:

    and MATT SHOONASTY!

  276. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    DaTruth,

    I’ll tell you what….let’s let the new “hopefully” General Manager make the call on Hue.

    I would dismiss Hue and hire a defensive minded coach.

    This team loses more games because of penalties and a lousy scheme. I blame Hue for the penalties.

    I also don’t like his playcalling. period.

  277. DaTruth91 Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    December 18th, 2011 at 6:20 pm
    “4-2 to 7-7…best trade ever…”

    4-2 then no McFadden….Ford Moore etc

    ^^^^^^^^^^
    Check and mate

  278. silverback Says:

    Hue has certainly had his ups and downs as a first years coach. Wasn’t the deep throw to murphy late against Chicago also on 3rd. down.

  279. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Team was supposed to IMPROVE this year….it has regressed.

    Get a General Manager with the freedom to find a new coach if he wants.

    Look at K.C today. F’ slingin the ball around…you play boss up defense…you are in every game!

  280. Chris in NY Says:

    We’ve done that a bunch of times this year. Hue calls that play all the time. I think the one to Murphy may be the only time it worked. Maybe one other.

  281. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Defensive minded head coach!

  282. DaTruth91 Says:

    SnB Offense Defense Specialteams Says:
    December 18th, 2011 at 6:24 pm
    DaTruth,

    I’ll tell you what….let’s let the new “hopefully” General Manager make the call on Hue.

    I would dismiss Hue and hire a defensive minded coach.

    This team loses more games because of penalties and a lousy scheme. I blame Hue for the penalties.

    I also don’t like his playcalling. period.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    his play calling in not an issue, its his decision making. As much as we hate Hue right now. Hue doesnt make CP throw a perfect ball to D.Moore. Hue doesnt make Schillen make the catch. PLAYERS HAVE TO EXECUTE. THATS WHY THERE PAID THE BIG BUCKS!!

  283. DKnight007 Says:

    # DAARAIDERS Says:
    December 18th, 2011 at 6:22 pm
    How do you lgive up 2 TD’s in final 5 + minutes and let them drive 98 yds for game winner.

    ^^^^^^^^
    Huey gambles too much when it he shouldn’t and he doesn’t gamble when he should.

    That’s his problem and I can live with that.

    However, I can’t accept a DEFENSE giving up the game winning two scores with 5 minutes left!

    Unacceptable!! When it comes to down to it…Chuck B should be fired tomorrow, but he won’t fired until the after the season whether they make the playoffs or not!

    Huey deserves a chance to stay with a REAL DC running the D!

  284. jesusraiderjim Says:

    Hey Chuck B I think we should go into the prevent D what do you think?
    That’s a dandy idea, we looked pretty good in the scheme we been using all game but WTF lets try it and see. FREAKIN dumb ass. The mental toughness of this team is a joke

  285. Chris in NY Says:

    Again, not going for 2. Trying a 50-yard bomb when all you need is 5 yards to seal the deal. Awful decisions by Hue.

  286. stablersbeard Says:

    Hue did OK last year as the OC on another poorly coached team. The fact is, He’s no better of a head coach than Cable.
    Maybe the players who rebelled at the decision to elevate Hue were right.

  287. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Need to replace the interior of the D-Line, find a MLB, get safety help and probably another cornerback or two.

    On offense, need a running back, Right Guard, Right Tackle and Left Guard (move Wiz to center)…….

    This team has a lot of holes and very little abilty to fix them.

  288. I am Spartacus Says:

    I watched the KC game. Romeo Crennel, a DC, called a better offensive game than Jackson. Too many of you guys are settling for less than mediocrity.

  289. Goldie7 Says:

    Oh Boy, turtle head Al Michaels and what’s a face with their stupid nonsense talk. I wish NBC would change up commentators. Commentators that are experts of the NFL and don’t have a favorite team would be a nice change.

  290. nyRaider_justwin Says:

    Lefty12 Says:
    December 18th, 2011 at 5:50 pm
    I hate to tell everyone this,but this game isn’t a season killer,we still have hope,however slight it might be.

    ——
    You are really a half full type of person.. Weeks ago I called the season over – and predicted this total collapse – and you called me a pessimist. Please have a cup of coffee and wake up. Season is over – they made a good start – but have fallen by the waste side since losing Campbell and other players – 4-2 to start now 7-7 absolutely pathetic. And yes I have watched this team for a very long time – and unfortunately the funk hasn’t ended. 8-8 is best finish they will get, but given the landside they are on – more likely 7-9. Yet another year without a winning season – the pain continues

  291. jesusraiderjim Says:

    283. You are right he should be canned ASAP but the end of the season will be soon enough. We got little to no chance now anyway. Al would have fired his ass last week.

  292. DKnight007 Says:

    A defensive minded head coach, is not the way to go!!

    Keep Huey another season, and get him a REAL DC to run the offense!

    Only coach that should be considered to replace Huey is Jeff Fisher!!

    If you can’t get Fisher, then there is no point in hiring another head coach….again!

  293. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    DaTruth,

    CP cost this Raider team a 1st and a 2nd….I hope he plays better next year.

    He was not worth what they paid.

  294. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Seymour and Kelly show up CHECK

    Satele and Carlisle play well CHECK

    Get Bush Running CHECK

    Palmer not throwing INT’s CHECK

    DHB have a big game CHECK

    Curry have a good game CHECK

    Dont turn teh ball over CHECK

    Cut down on stupid penalties CHECK until 4th quarter

    Great special teams play CHECK

    What cost us today was poor coaching decisions

  295. DKnight007 Says:

    Romeo Crennel?? hahaha…I hope KC keeps him…he sucks!!

  296. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    DKnight,

    I hope the Raiders get Jeff Fisher.

    BEcause with Fisher…the lame penalties and stupidity would end…the scholarships would end….

  297. silverback Says:

    Chris In NY Says:
    December 18th, 2011 at 6:28 pm
    Again, not going for 2. Trying a 50-yard bomb when all you need is 5 yards to seal the deal. Awful decisions by Hue.
    —-
    yep

  298. I am Spartacus Says:

    This team is done. Cut our losses with Jackson and start from scratch.

  299. raider tim Says:

    Don’t go for two with 7 minutes left in the game to go up 14? Really? Why? Tell me why, Hugh? The only reason that makes sense, THE ONLY reason is that you think the Lions will score THREE times (2 FG’s and a TD to tie). There was NO RISK to go for two. NONE!!!! And the announcers are equally as pathetic not to mention it? And the joke reporter asks not one tough question to the team outside the locker room? This play was a microcosm of what Hue Jackson is all about. He simply doesn’t get it. Doesn’t get it. There are 20 other plays that can be pulled out just like this that shows Hue’s ignorance. What are the chances of Carson hitting Schillens? MUCH less than a simple screen or a Bush run for a first down and game is over.

  300. Chris in NY Says:

    NFL and don’t have a favorite team would be a nice change.

    290.nyRaider_justwin Says:
    December 18th, 2011 at 6:30 pm
    Lefty12 Says:
    December 18th, 2011 at 5:50 pm
    I hate to tell everyone this,but this game isn’t a season killer,we still have hope,however slight it might be.

    ——
    You are really a half full type of person.. Weeks ago I called the season over – and predicted this total collapse – and you called me a pessimist. Please have a cup of coffee and wake up. Season is over – they made a good start – but have fallen by the waste side since losing Campbell and other players – 4-2 to start now 7-7 absolutely pathetic. And yes I have watched this team for a very long time – and unfortunately the funk hasn’t ended. 8-8 is best finish they will get, but given the landside they are on – more likely 7-9. Yet another year without a winning season – the pain continues

    ————————-

    You mean since losing McFadden and other players.

    Can someone tell me how many times Jason Campbell attempted 40 throws, completed 80% of his passes for 367 yards in a game? I don’t think he’s had a game like that in his life.

  301. DKnight007 Says:

    # Chris in NY Says:
    December 18th, 2011 at 6:28 pm

    Again, not going for 2. Trying a 50-yard bomb when all you need is 5 yards to seal the deal. Awful decisions by Hue.

    ^^^^^^^^^
    If that bomb would have hit, you wouldn’t be saying that.

    Chuck B as DC does not know who to close a game!!

  302. jesusraiderjim Says:

    Oh the horror of it all. I am so tired of getting punked in the last quarter. I have been a Raider for over 40 years and these last 10 have sucked worse than anything. We need to get a d minded coach and get some guys that have some discipline

  303. DKnight007 Says:

    Bring in Steve Spagnolo or Jack Del Rio as DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR!!

    FIRE Chuck B as soon as the Raiders are eliminated from the playoffs!!

  304. Goldie7 Says:

    With the Broncos losing…we are not done yet. Most likely the Chargers will lose tonight too. Everything stays the same. It’s not over for us yet. I still have a little hope for the Raiders….even though they can make ya angry.

  305. DKnight007 Says:

    Huey and Saunders offense score enough points on offense to win games!!

    The DEFENSE needs a REAL Defensive Coordinator!!

  306. mikedlopes Says:

    To be fair to Carson Palmer, look who is running the show.

  307. ddsman Says:

    Okay morons:

    Head Coach: Hue Jackson is not going anywhere for the next few years. This coach has been given the reigns to the organization and he will be allowed to see his moves develop. I realize many of your earn minimum wage and do not understand how corporations work, but the “CEO” will not get axed by the board for being average with tremendous upside. He will continue to be aggressive and he will either live or die because of it. I agree that there are several problems with how he calls a game, but this is not changing soon.

    Defensive Coordinator: Chuck B will be replaced now that Al Davis is not there to intimidate successful defensive coordinators/coaches from joining this previously perceived toxic management infrastructure. This will happen in 2012.

    Quarterback: Carson Palmer is our QB for years to come. He is a good QB and has had only a few weeks to adjust to our team. Keep in mind that the receivers are still working on timing and are flat out just not very good. Regardless of what plays should or should not be run, he is responsible for execution not strategy.

    RB’s: Raiders will successfully resign Bush and McFadden will continue to struggle with injuries next year. His return this year will not be enough…too little too late.

    Defense: This is the major issue with the team. Even when a good formation is called the lack of talent in this group will continue to be an advantage to the other team. MLB Rolando McClain is just not good, but he will not be traded this early. Stanford Routt is not a great corner by any means, another bad investment also not going anywhere. The safeties are probably where we will see the most trades occurring. We need a decent corner and safety. Jerome Boyd is one of the worst players in the league, but that comes when you have a practice squad player because of injuries.

    The long and short of it is this: WE WILL NOT SEE MAJOR PLAYER CHANGES ON THIS TEAM IN 2012. Thus, other than a new DC and hopeful modifications to Hue’s style, we are going to have to play with what we have. Seeing these fire HUE and get rid of our MLB are just typical uninformed forum posters. Save yourself some time and comment about how we can improve without major player changes, because its not happening.

    Summary: Basically STFU about trading all of our players.

  308. Raider Al from Atlanta Says:

    God rest his soul, this loss is on Al Davis.
    He set the team back three years by drafting J Syrup Russell over future
    Hall of Framer, Calvin Johnson.
    He refuses to pay up for a defensive coordinator and hires Coach a
    Prevent Defense always results in a Lost Bresnahan.
    SINGLE WORST DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR IN THE LEAGUE!!! How do you call a defense that puts your MLB in deep coverage on Calvin Johnson!?!?!?!? Bresnahan lost this game, not the players. The players weren’t put in a position to win based solely on play calling by the DC. Fire him TONIGHT!!!!! Promote the Defensive Line Coach.
    Also, DHB has clearly developed into a starter in the NFL.

  309. nyRaider_justwin Says:

    Chris In NY Says:
    You mean since losing McFadden and other players.—

    Yes not just Campbell – he was doing enough not to lose games- General injury plague.

  310. silverback Says:

    I guess Palmer could have checked out of the deep pass on 3rd and 3.

  311. Buckeyeraider Says:

    Hue definitely gets too cute for his own good sometimes. He sometimes takes aggressive to the point of reckless or even foolish. Like the Cleveland game earlier this year.

    A field goal makes it a 3 score game and ends it. He goes for it, a few minutes later and they are lining up for an onsides kick and Raiders fans are gnawing on their finger nails…needlessly.

    Today, he did it again. Should he have taken the early FG? Probably. The Raiders should have gotten a call there, though. The defender slipped and Moore was wide open for an easy TD. The defender grabbed him. Shoulda been PI. No contact after five yards, right? Billick pointed it it out. People in here say Palmer overthrew an open WR, but the guy was held. The zebras didn’t have the balls to make the obvious call.

    I do have a bit of a problem with the late call by Hue. They could’ve slammed Bush into the line on 3rd and 2. Maybe they pick it up, maybe they don’t. They would have at least kept the clock moving. Probably the conventional, conservative call that most coaches would make.

    Not Hue, He’s going for broke. The guy is ultra-aggressive. I have no problem with play action in that spot…but why go 40 yard downfield to Chaz?

    They didn’t need a TD there, just a first down. Why not a shorter, safer..higher percentage pass…maybe to Boss? pick up the first down and ball game over.

    Would’ve been a thing of beauty if it connected…and it just missed by inches.

    I would’ve like to have seen a more high percentage route, myself.

    But that’s not Hue’s style.

  312. I am Spartacus Says:

    #295. Apparently, small things amuse small minds. Romeo Crennel beat Green Bay and you’re laughing at him? How’s Hue’s bikini wax look from your point of view?

  313. jesusraiderjim Says:

    Jackie D as D coordinator is the ticket.

  314. PK28 Says:

    273. sorry but if we gonna trade 2 potential 1st round picks for someone, he had better be worth it. any fool knew that trade was a mistake…cincy is laughing at us

  315. Chris in NY Says:

    DKnight007 Says:
    December 18th, 2011 at 6:33 pm
    # Chris in NY Says:
    December 18th, 2011 at 6:28 pm

    Again, not going for 2. Trying a 50-yard bomb when all you need is 5 yards to seal the deal. Awful decisions by Hue.

    ^^^^^^^^^
    If that bomb would have hit, you wouldn’t be saying that.

    ——————————

    Yes, I would because I was yelling “No, no, no” at the screen as soon as I saw Palmer winding up to launch it. Gotta call a high percentage play in that spot. Whether or not it works, is besides the point of whether or not it was a smart call.

  316. morilla Says:

    I am going to try to be a little optimistic here. I can’t afford to be irate about this ( though part of me wants to be, it’s just a game.) Remember three years ago? Remember the last 8 years? In the instant gratification , I want it now culture we have become the Raiders are getting better. It’s been a long time that the Raiders name have even been mentioned as playoff contenders. This year has been a complete clusterf@ck and a rookie head coach to boot. I will still support this team. I’m in it for the long haul, even though they can make me want to through heavy objects around the room.

  317. autopalm77 Says:

    Any individual can attempt to lay blame on the players….It doesn’t pass the smell test…Allowing McClain to field pints and kickoffs cost this team precious garage today…Not kicking the field goal in the first half was typical of Huellywood and was predictable as it was several times this year…Not playing press man has killed this team this year with its attempted folly into zone coverages…Not thinking quick enough to realize that a 2 point conversion was a necessary option when the defense scored was unacceptable…Lastly, I said months ago that the lack of discipline was attributable to Huellywood’s coaching and this lack of discipline has cost the Raiders several games this year…The Curry penalty for excessive celebration was just another example of this…That 15 yards on the kickoff allowed them better field position…Seymour’s constant excused absences to Massachusetts are just a few of the many examples of this lack of leadership…Heads should roll and it needs to start at the TOP….PERIOD….

  318. zopi Says:

    I told you two weeks ago that the Raiders played and coached as if they were stumbling for the exits and the dolts played as if making a run for the playoffs, well here it is folks.
    The dolts beat Bmore big tonight, and will win out and take the AFC West, easy.

  319. Goldie7 Says:

    Don’t give up just yet Raiders fans. We still have a shot. Situations look dim but we can win our last 2 games. It’s not impossible.

  320. Twocents Says:

    When Al passed, Mark Davis became the man. I suspect that he listened to Hue. I hope he has realized that that was a big mistake.
    Mark, find a young, up and coming GM and let him decide who the coaches will be, what free agents we will sign, what low round draftees can actually play.

    It’s not going to be easy. If you can’t do it, then sell.

  321. Goldie7 Says:

    Sup Auto? Merry Christmas!

  322. autopalm77 Says:

    Thank you, Goldie, safe and joyous holiday season to you and your family….AP77…

  323. Chris in NY Says:

    Goldie7 Says:
    December 18th, 2011 at 6:43 pm
    Don’t give up just yet Raiders fans. We still have a shot. Situations look dim but we can win our last 2 games. It’s not impossible.

    ———————————-

    Problem is there’s a very good chance it doesn’t matter if we do.

  324. Goldie7 Says:

    Thanks Autopalm! Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you and your precious family! Take care.

  325. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    You all neglected this raggedy defense for several years and were cool with it

  326. Twocents Says:

    There is no way in hell we win another game this season.

  327. Goldie7 Says:

    Chris in NY Says:
    December 18th, 2011 at 6:47 pm
    Goldie7 Says:
    December 18th, 2011 at 6:43 pm
    Don’t give up just yet Raiders fans. We still have a shot. Situations look dim but we can win our last 2 games. It’s not impossible.

    ———————————-

    Problem is there’s a very good chance it doesn’t matter if we do.
    ********************************************
    I don’t know Chris. Situations may change in our favor. Who knows?

  328. 901Raiders Says:

    3rd down efficiency Lions 8-17 Raiders 1-9.
    Our Defense has got to be able to get off of the field on 3rd down. We’ve been terrible on 3rd downs all year on defense. Chuck B. needs to go. On that same note, Hue needs to check his play calling. Hue may get a pass due to being a Rookie Head coach, but Chuck B needs to warm up his U Haul.

  329. GalacticGus Says:

    this are the stupid damn coaching calls that cost the game. not going for the sure the points on fourth down and going for that bomb and 3 and 2. he done gambled the playoff away. a bush run, a half back toss, a short pass to a Tight end, anything but a lower percentage bomb play!

  330. jesusraiderjim Says:

    #316 In it this long might as well be in it for the long haul. Great post and absolutely correct

  331. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Its hard to win in this league…and harder to get to the playoffs.

    The raiders single handledly threw that opportunity away with continued baffoonery and arrogance from players and coaches.

  332. zopi Says:

    Dolts win big tonight, will tie the Raiders, and start breathing hard on the donkeys.

  333. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    The opportunity to turn around an iconic franchise like the Raiders should leave us with no shortage of viable GM and coaching candidates!

  334. GalacticGus Says:

    sometimes, you just got to go with your bread and butter and play with what got you a chance to win, even if it means sticking with man to man with a deep safety or something. the defense played good enough to win until the end, the players did not dive or try to swat those rainbows down… that was on them… its not all on chuck B. it was hues bonehead gambles. i am starting to think we need chucky gruden again

  335. Goldie7 Says:

    Merry Christmas Chris, Don’t give up on our Raiders. Maybe we hit our worst slump and will overcome and start winning again.

  336. Buckeyeraider Says:

    RoMac. That dude ought to be ashamed of himself, as well. 4th and two…backed up to their own goal line. He’s got a clean shot on a scrambling Mathew Stafford….he completely whiffed. You’ve got to be kidding me. He made that kid look like Mike Vick or something. Getting juked like that. Pitiful.

    He had a shot to end the game right there. He had a shot short of the first down…and just like the rest of that defense in the last five minutes….pizzed down his own leg.

    Does anybody envision Ray Lewis or Patrick Willis whiffing like that? Weak sauce.

    Dude has to step up, and make that play.

  337. lefty12 Says:

    NYChris,you said it.As much as this loss hurt.As much as this loss upsets people,the ignorance spewed on here is amazing.
    NJersey-you are probably correct,the season is over.However,I’ve watched this game for many years and I’ve seen stranger things happen.We are still in it and I refuse give up until we are mathematically eliminated-just as most of us hope the players don’t give up.

  338. autopalm77 Says:

    Goldie, will post that Christmas poem a little later, make sure and share it with your family….Makes one realize its just a game….AP77

  339. GalacticGus Says:

    # autopalm77 Says:
    December 18th, 2011 at 6:42 pm

    Any individual can attempt to lay blame on the players….It doesn’t pass the smell test…Allowing McClain to field pints and kickoffs cost this team precious garage today…Not kicking the field goal in the first half was typical of Huellywood and was predictable as it was several times this year…Not playing press man has killed this team this year with its attempted folly into zone coverages…Not thinking quick enough to realize that a 2 point conversion was a necessary option when the defense scored was unacceptable…Lastly, I said months ago that the lack of discipline was attributable to Huellywood’s coaching and this lack of discipline has cost the Raiders several games this year…The Curry penalty for excessive celebration was just another example of this…That 15 yards on the kickoff allowed them better field position…Seymour’s constant excused absences to Massachusetts are just a few of the many examples of this lack of leadership…Heads should roll and it needs to start at the TOP….PERIOD….

    *****
    Amen

  340. DKnight007 Says:

    I agree. A lower percentage pass play should have been called to convert a first down. I can accept Huey gambling to try and win and close out a game on offense.

    I can’t accept a crappy D Coordinator leading the D and blowing freakin games!

    Get a REAL D Coordinator to turn the defense around and help close two TD leads with 5 minutes left in a freeakin game and then we can judge Huey after that!

  341. hendu Says:

    Just sayin,did we take JRUSS or CJohnson,cant remember,dont want to remember,cant remember,time for another Vodka Cranberry,a double

  342. GalacticGus Says:

    yeah, a first down is as good as a touchdown…. cant get that through a thick skull?

  343. stablersbeard Says:

    “Ddsman Says:
    December 18th, 2011 at 6:36 pm”

    ________

    You almost sound like you know what you’re talking about, but… not.

    Moron your own self….

  344. Goldie7 Says:

    autopalm77 Says:
    December 18th, 2011 at 6:55 pm
    Goldie, will post that Christmas poem a little later, make sure and share it with your family….Makes one realize its just a game….AP77
    *************************************************
    Ok AP77…I’ll keep checking back for your Poem.

  345. autopalm77 Says:

    317….McCann…..yardage…****

  346. lefty12 Says:

    #329-the problem is the play was there but our WR couldn’t make the catch.How can blame the called play when it should have successful but the WR miss-played the ball.

  347. beach Says:

    I hope Chuck Bresnahan joins Al Davis tonight!

  348. GalacticGus Says:

    shoot if you are gonna gamble like that on forth and 1 at the beginning of the game, might as well gamble at the end of the game after that missed Chaz bomb… shoot, at least we would have a lil more time on the clock for a jano game winner if we don’t convert that game closing first down and they drive down like they did.

  349. R8RNAZ Says:

    2 hours later I am in shock. I really believe we need to get rid of the whole defensive staff. Hue can grow into the job with the right guidance. We need a strong GM to put the hammer down on him. Two years ago we were clamoring for a .500 football team. Now we need a winner. Go back and look at Grudens first two years. We found two different ways to get to 8-8 and then exploded to 12-4. A few more changes with loss of Chuckie B and we have a real shot. Players killed us at the end but B killed us with poor schemes and conservative play calling through out. We have 2 games left hopefully we can improve on today’s performance and find ways to win instead of lose. F…k I hate losing this sucks.

  350. autopalm77 Says:

    Hendu, forget the cranberry and just go with the vodka….Have a safe and joyous holiday….AP77

  351. beach Says:

    I have lost a lot of respect for Hue Jackson now. And Chaz Schilens should be thrown out of Alameda immediately!

  352. antispy3 Says:

    What an unpoised group. Same old Raiders. . .always find a way to blow the close one.

    Has to be the worst 32 for 40 I’ve ever seen. If he hits Moore for the 4th & 1 TD Detroi folds the tents & heads home. . .how are they gonna suck it up for the Christmas Eve Affair in KC? Just like I said the Raiders would loose this week they will loose nest week as well. . .just like 1995! Key injuries & they fold up & blow away. . .

  353. beach Says:

    MESSAGE TO MARK DAVIS: NAME A GM IMMEDIATELY!

  354. DKnight007 Says:

    Tell me morons who want to fire Hue after only one season….who is going to replace him and who is going to run the offense if they go to D minded head coach??

  355. DKnight007 Says:

    I have to admit though. If the Raiders lose the next two game…Huey may just wind up being on the hot seat with a new GM being hired.

    The only way they should consider firing Huey is if they lose the next two games….badly.

  356. autopalm77 Says:

    Lefty is correct regarding that play…It was perfectly timed and missed by the narrowest of margins..Plays can be criticized for their timing or execution but you have to take points and that should have been learned in the Cleveland game….

  357. RedneckRaider Says:

    Anybody else see Curry being a prick on twitter?

  358. beach Says:

    There is one thing to be said about gamblers: they always lose in the end. Riverboat Hue lost. This phrase will haunt Al Davis lovers forever. “We’re not losers anymore.” Tom Cable, after the Raiders finished 8-8 last season.

  359. morilla Says:

    Hue finally did it. Never thought he would, but he finally cracked. Usually he doesn’t call out players/staff, but tody he did. In the presser he said the defense blew it. You can tell he is fed up with Bres and his sub par performance.

    See ya Chuck.

  360. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    You don’t give up 14 4th quarter points, period!

  361. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Dknight,

    Go get Jeff Fisher…Chuck Pagano from Baltimore….get me a coach that knows how to instill some semblence of order. The penalties were horrendous and Hue’s roster moves still leaves me shanking my head and the franchises ability to improve the team handcuffed.

    If the Raiders had a better defense, they would have won more games than with this pass 1st Nintendo offense and raggedy, no run stopping DTs / MLB we have now

  362. wasbanned Says:

    Tired of Rookie coaches…

    This team needs a GM who will clean house and bring in a VETERAN coaching staff.

    This team needs to have a coach they can respect. A coach who has won games in this league.

    Not a TALKER who has not really done anything.

  363. hendu Says:

    Autopalm77,funny you say that cuz thats what I did,a double w/out the cranberry,took youre advice,and right back at ya,Happy Holidays!

  364. beach Says:

    DKnight007, I have been a big Hue fan, and I would not bring him back if we end up 7-9, period.

  365. olinesux Says:

    but we might have dmc nect week….lol

  366. beach Says:

    I hope McClain ends up in prison, because the Raiders don’t need to get stuck with that contract.

  367. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    wasbanned Says:
    December 18th, 2011 at 7:06 pm
    Tired of Rookie coaches…

    This team needs a GM who will clean house and bring in a VETERAN coaching staff.
    ==============================================
    Thank you! Excellent post

  368. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    I am ok with a rookie head coach that is defensive minded

  369. DKnight007 Says:

    # SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
    December 18th, 2011 at 7:06 pm

    Dknight,

    Go get Jeff Fisher…Chuck Pagano from Baltimore….get me a coach that knows how to instill some semblence of order. The penalties were horrendous and Hue’s roster moves still leaves me shanking my head and the franchises ability to improve the team handcuffed.

    If the Raiders had a better defense, they would have won more games than with this pass 1st Nintendo offense and raggedy, no run stopping DTs / MLB we have now

    ^^^^^^^^
    That is the only head coach I want the Raiders to get IF they fire Hue. Is Jeff Fisher!

    That is a BIG IF though buddy!

  370. nycraider Says:

    Hue was upset that Chaz didnt make that play in his press conference, but this game was lost due to his decisions. his 4th and 1 decision, his 3rd and 4 bomb playcall when all we needed was 1 first down to win the game, and to me the biggest head scratcher is not going for 2. with 6 minutes left to play what is the downside if we didnt convert and we are only up 12 instead of 13. in my book, no difference, but converting the 2 guarantees OT..Hue defends not going for 2 as he said it wasnt the time to go for two..John madden was at the game, i would really love his opinion on Hue’s performance

  371. UCLA Raiders Says:

    Prevent defense prevents you from winning!
    Bresnecrap is history.
    Depressing. Very depressing to lose in this fashion just like the Bills game.
    Decision to throw at 3rd and 3 was baffling and so was the decision to throw in end Zone instead of kicking an easy FG. Rookie HC calls.
    Very depressing loss. Now demoralized this team will march and win a meaningless game out of the remaining two games and finish at 8-8. No progress from last year.
    DMC is done by the way at least for the year maybe more.

  372. beach Says:

    Is there any reason to keep Chuck Bresnahan on the coaching staff? I cannot think of one reason.

  373. wasbanned Says:

    RedneckRaider Says:
    December 18th, 2011 at 7:03 pm

    Anybody else see Curry being a prick on twitter?

    I did. I told him it wasn’t funny to me. Apparently he believes that anyone who isn’t happy about today is from the devil.

    Dude is really trippy. Pentecostal trippy.

  374. hendu Says:

    361,SnB,how about Jack D,Ex Head Coach,for DC

  375. autopalm77 Says:

    SnB…Always appreciate your posts…You can’t be that critical of the players when McClain is covering Johnson 40 yardage downfield…THAT IS A PROBLEM OF EPIC PROPORTIONS….

  376. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    Strip all coaches, start from scratch, these coaches bite nuts, and have led us down the path of enlightened BS, and fattened their wallets. Mark, get Daddy smart!!!! Now!!!

  377. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    This is one game I am glad I did not see from start to finish.

    I guess the fourth quarter painted enough of the picture for me.

    We have a very bad defense and coordinator. A prevent defense really? We laid back and let Stafford have his way man.

    Why was McClain checking Calvin Johnson in the deep thirds of the field? What was Boyd doing in the red zone? Never looked back once at the WR easy call to make.

  378. DKnight007 Says:

    Nope…going with a rookie head coach to replace Huey would be a waste of time.

    Hue is a rookie head coach and some of u would replace him with another rookie head coach?? Waste of time!

    Get Jeff Fisher, Cowher or Gruden or just stick with Hue, fire Chuck B and get Hue a REAL DC like Spagnolo or Del Rio!

  379. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Why would anyone be happy about the outcome today? I am certainly not the devil…

  380. UCLA Raiders Says:

    Beach Says:
    December 18th, 2011 at 7:07 pm
    I hope McClain ends up in prison, because the Raiders don’t need to get stuck with that contract.
    ————-
    LOL!!!!!!!!!

  381. olinesux Says:

    did hue make his pedicure and manicure appts?

  382. armond Says:

    autopalm77

    i dont understand why branch didnt return another kick after his 70 yarder. we need some juice back there and he returned kicks in college.

  383. autopalm77 Says:

    It can’t be forgotten that there is but one head coach…If the DC is a problem and one could safely assume that, then adjustments should have been made…They have clearly NOT…So to hang DC for crimes against football, there should be another body….or 2 swinging in the wind….

  384. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    I am done trying to figure this stuff out. The reason I want change is because we always find ourselves trying to bring reason to insanity.

    Falling behind 30 points at half time in back to back weeks (Dolphins?)

    Leading the league in penalties of all kinds

    Blowing major leads in Baltimore

    Getting shutout against K.C…

    giving up 300 yards to Denver..a team that had no passing game to think of.

    Nope….I am done with this mess….get me a coach that will get this team to normal. Won’t have MLBs covering the best receiver in football….will take the points on 4th and 1 from the 30….call a basic scheme….

  385. nycraider Says:

    our secondary is really committed to support Al Davis philosophy. everytime they play zone its a joke how open receivers are. MM and boyd are horrible in deep coverage assignments in zone, and the middle of the field is wide open. I dont care how good megatron is, but 213 yds receiving is absurb and should never of happened.

  386. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Not Baltimore…..blowing major leads in “Buffalo”

  387. antispy3 Says:

    Plain & simple; the day after the season ends Carson Palmer knock on Brandon Lloyd’s door & says, “Oakland’s the place you gotta be. So they loaded up & headed towards the sea (Pacific Ocean). . .

    A legitimate, polished #1 WR. I bet he’d love to stick it to Denver. . .and allow Moore to become a well rounded WR, Ford to develop a notch below & someone please show Louis Murphy the “Wizard of OZ” Dude’s the Tinman.

    It just seemed like a hollow 32 for 40 for palmer. Of course the Zebra missed the hold on Detroit on the 4th & 1 gamble early on. . .it’s just the consistent loosing of focus late in the contest that bothers me. They’re young but other teams fight through that. . .It’s gotta be discipline & the head guy is directly responsible for that.

    They say a team takes on the personality of it’s head coach. Well, Hue, mission accomplished. . .the Raiders are all over the place, just like their head coach. . .

  388. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Antispy,

    I actually like how DHB’s game is rounding out. A full offseason with a LEGIT COACH will probably put the kid over the top

  389. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Hue Hamming it up with the ESPN writers doing a story on him getting a manicure the only reason you do that is you love yourself so much and you want to suck in the limelight.

    Get out of the salon and back into the film room

  390. antispy3 Says:

    Rivers just did a perfect immitation of arson Palmer; missed the deep pass by an eyelash. . .

  391. bubbaisaraiderfan Says:

    As a lone raider fan here in ohio, I hatd the palmer deal knew what we were getting. Hue’s got to go. Chuckie B gtta go. My 14 year daughter said it best when in first quarter we went for 4th instead of kicking fg, “dad, that was stupid, why not get 3? that will come back to hurt us” maybe she should b coach!

  392. autopalm77 Says:

    Almond, it was a question of preserving his energy…Branch plays hard and played a ton of snaps…It was important to keep him fresh as he is undoubtedly the best defender…I question more not recognizing that McCann was and has been capable of fumbling and either correcting that pe replace him…Him not fielding pints cost us yardage today and other games…

  393. Gerard Says:

    359.morilla Says:
    December 18th, 2011 at 7:04 pm
    Hue finally did it. Never thought he would, but he finally cracked. Usually he doesn’t call out players/staff, but tody he did. In the presser he said the defense blew it. You can tell he is fed up with Bres and his sub par performance.

    See ya Chuck.

    Where do you go for the presser?

    It’s about time Hue said something that was the truth.

    I am in the final stages of my venting and then that’s it.

    Shame on me for believing in this team. I guess I knew all along they’d find a way to choke away the season but even in my wildest Raider nightmares id i imagine thme giving up a 98 td drive with the season oon the line…at home.

    Just when u think they can’t choke it away any worse you get ….today.

  394. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    I will use Tim Brown’s line that he use to always say about Philip Buchanon. “DHB giveth and DHB taketh away!”

    DHB seems like a pretty humble kid but he got to cute out there and it cost us the game.

    The play calling in the last 40 seconds of the game was on the money. You can blame Hue, Sanders or Palmer for that. DHB decides to be DHB of old and catch with his pads and do the clap hands. Every WR knows they teach you to catch away from your body and pull the ball to you. He still does not have enough confidence in his hands. Palmer hit him in his numbers. We really needed that play. The fumble earlier by DHB also killed us.

  395. autopalm77 Says:

    Sorry, Armond, cell phone…Didn’t see the spelling error…

  396. DKnight007 Says:

    Nope…going with a rookie head coach to replace Huey would be a waste of time.

    Hue is a rookie head coach and some of u would replace him with another rookie head coach?? Waste of time!

    Get Jeff Fisher, Cowher or Gruden or just stick with Hue as head coach, fire Chuck B and get Hue a REAL DC like Spagnolo or Del Rio and then see what happens!

  397. Gerard Says:

    Just CHOKE baby.

  398. armond Says:

    379.SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
    December 18th, 2011 at 7:11 pm
    Why would anyone be happy about the outcome today? I am certainly not the devil…

    ——————————————————-
    becuz he is stupid and soft. he also tried helpin rodgers up off the field last week. he was then dissed in front of everyone only to insist that he help him up anyway. we were losing 24-0 at the time btw. alot of these guys just dont get it. just like the coaches dont get it which is why we cant take that next step.

  399. Sullivan44 Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    December 18th, 2011 at 7:17 pm

    Hue Hamming it up with the ESPN writers doing a story on him getting a manicure the only reason you do that is you love yourself so much and you want to suck in the limelight.

    Get out of the salon and back into the film room

    …………..

    If he’d gone to a popular bar or restaurant, partly to get attention, as most people who go to such places to do, would you have a problem with it? Sounds sexist and perhaps even homophobic. He can’t watch film 24/7. He’s entitled to a private life.

  400. autopalm77 Says:

    Coaching is now open to criticism and the prospect of replacement should be discussed….

  401. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    They are not going to replace hue this year. Waste of time for thinking they are. He should have kicked a field goal, but it is more than that.

    This team has been a position to win. They just have to execute. Hue can’t catch for the guys, hecan’t protect the football so they don’t fumble. But what he can do is replace that BS of a defense.

    Coordinator and prevent defense has to go.

  402. olinesux Says:

    this is why al refused to play zone….

  403. lefty12 Says:

    Jackson was saddled with Bresnahan.Jackson’s offense has given the team late leads multiple times only to have the defense blow those leads.Get a competent DC,put him with this offense and we will be ok.Its amazing that for years everyone complained because we changed coaches every year,yet now that is exactly what you are requesting.

  404. DKnight007 Says:

    Huey, Saunders and Palmer are trying to close out the game so the defense doesn’t have to. Chaz should have caught that ball!

    The DEFENSE sucks azzzzzzzz! There is no way, a better DC than Chuck B allows this defense to play like this in critical situations..

  405. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    The reason tomorrow will be = Coach Hue saying, This ones on me! This was a total breakdown of a good team led by Idiots. Period. Break this team down, bring in compentent personel, rebuild the COMMITMENT TO EXCELLENCE. Do it for Al!

  406. UCSBPreMedMike Says:

    Fire Hue? For who? Fix D and give Palmer some weapons that he can build some chemistry with and we fix Oakland. All is not lost. Next year WILL be better. Give it time. What else have we got to lose? I never realistically saw us making the Super Bowl this year, anyways. If NOTHING changes in the offseason…THEN we have a problem.

    They looked better today than they did the last two games, but overall still are not consistent.

  407. Silverandblack666 Says:

    The great Sandusky44 shows up only after a loss to prod the wounded fans and act like a expert on all things Raider.

    If the topic was incest I would say he has credibility but other wise no one wants to hear you babble on about your own ignorance.

    Its kind of like watching a guy eat his own puke!

  408. armond Says:

    dont trip autopalm77. yeah i know it would be a wear on him returning kicks. just shows how much we need ford back. huellywood as u call him is to blame. the calls were good calls but they hardly work. i wish he would play it better than he does. when we are in fg range im all for it. it allows u to be risky but its a calculated risk.

  409. Sullivan44 Says:

    olinesux Says:
    December 18th, 2011 at 7:24 pm

    this is why al refused to play zone….

    ………

    Why’s zone work for every other team? Couldn’t be a personnel issue we have by any chance, could it?

  410. autopalm77 Says:

    Lefty, always spot on, however, if the defense has been such a liability, why not be more involved as a head coach…You can’t dispute the lack of an attempt at a field goal so early in the game and no attempt at a 2 point conversion…???

  411. DKnight007 Says:

    # autopalm77 Says:
    December 18th, 2011 at 7:24 pm

    Coaching is now open to criticism and the prospect of replacement should be discussed….

    ^^^^^^^^
    Huey offense has put up enough points up to win games.

    Most of Raider Nation knew when Chuck B was hired as the DC, that the Defense would cost this team wins and it has!!

    Plain and simple. Hue major weapons on offense have been hurt most the season. The Defense has blown too many leads, get a better DC and the Raiders win more games!!

    Old man Al screwed up when he drafted Russell ahead of Calvin Johnson.

  412. Gerard Says:

    Where might someone find Hues postgame presser?

    Thanks.

  413. lefty12 Says:

    “DHB got cute out there and it cost us the game”-OMFG,I can’t believe some of the ignorant BS printed on here.And you guys have the nerve to call the coaches stupid.

  414. Sullivan44 Says:

    Firing Hue’s an option. I hope they don’t do it. I don’t think the late season collapse is his fault. But if they do, the field’s wide open for a big name HC, with Al now out of the picture.

  415. stablersbeard Says:

    @ AdamSchefter Jackson, Bresnahan OUT in Oakland. Wiz- Interim HC, Woodson-DC…More to follow.

  416. UCSBPreMedMike Says:

    Lefty12 Says:
    December 18th, 2011 at 7:24 pm
    Jackson was saddled with Bresnahan.Jackson’s offense has given the team late leads multiple times only to have the defense blow those leads.Get a competent DC,put him with this offense and we will be ok.Its amazing that for years everyone complained because we changed coaches every year,yet now that is exactly what you are requesting.

    —–

    Agree…we need need consistency in our leadership. It’s much easier to fix the kinks in Hue’s philosophy than it is to totally toss the entire system. It’s not productive and irrational.

    But, overall…I’m still a Raider fan til the day I die!

  417. Sullivan44 Says:

    I hope Mark gives Hue at least one more year, let’s hue bring in his own DC. After the 2003 season and this collapse today, nobody with a name that even rhymes with Breshnehan should be our DC.

  418. DKnight007 Says:

    # autopalm77 Says:
    December 18th, 2011 at 7:28 pm

    Lefty, always spot on, however, if the defense has been such a liability, why not be more involved as a head coach…You can’t dispute the lack of an attempt at a field goal so early in the game and no attempt at a 2 point conversion…???

    ^^^^^^^
    If they hire a DC minded head coach, than that means the offense starts all over again with new terminology and a new system.

    The offense would regress and that is NOT what this team needs!

    The offense scores enough points to win games. The Defense needs a better DC who knows what the hell is doing like Spagnolo or Del Rio and who knows how shut opposing offenses down!!

  419. armond Says:

    lefty

    i have a problem with us not scoring tds in the 3rd qtr. i also have a problem with hue going away from the run when it was finally taking over. why even pass on 3rd and 3? just be patient and maybe u get an easier throw later. palmer taking that sack was huge. he had bush right away for a 1rst down and looked down field. he cant make that mistake.fugg his yards make the plays when it counts and he didnt. he overthrew chaz and moore. i blame hue as much as him tho.

  420. antispy3 Says:

    But S & B, DHB will never possess Lloyd’s all around game. And name another receiver who consistently makes circus catches? He reminds me of Chris Carter. If you see the ball going his way in single coverage it’s a catch. And, if Moore & Ford play the way I think they will, you won’t be able to double up on anyone. . .instant nightmare. . .

    I was hoping for a semblance this year. . .

    And don’t forget Palmer’s reaction to the body catches & drops DHB had last week @ Lambeau. . .that’s hardly comforting for a potential (never happen) #1 WR. . .

    I was pointing out Moore to friends b4 last year’s draft. His innate ability to snatch the ball out of the air, acceleration in & out of his cuts, vertacialty to the highest point of the catch & ability to make people miss are world class. DHB will never posess those skills His nom de combat is he runs fast. Plus size & a strong work ethic. But he can’t snatch & grab & he can’t track the downfield ball to save his life. . .

    Usually this time of the year I’m talking about WR’s I like in the college ranks. . .but since the Raiders effectively mortgaged their short term future for a (legitimate) NFL playoff gunslinger behind center; it just stings because all the pieces are around. Some of them are injured, but this would be the newest greatest show on turf. . .all on the damaged appendage of DMAC. . .

  421. Gerard Says:

    415.stablersbeard Says:
    December 18th, 2011 at 7:29 pm
    @ AdamSchefter Jackson, Bresnahan OUT in Oakland. Wiz- Interim HC, Woodson-DC…More to follow.

    Not in the mood for that b.s man.

  422. Sullivan44 Says:

    DKnight007 Says:
    December 18th, 2011 at 7:29 pm

    Huey offense has put up enough points up to win games.

    ………..

    Exactly.

  423. DKnight007 Says:

    # autopalm77 Says:
    December 18th, 2011 at 7:28 pm

    Lefty, always spot on, however, if the defense has been such a liability, why not be more involved as a head coach…You can’t dispute the lack of an attempt at a field goal so early in the game and no attempt at a 2 point conversion…???

    ^^^^^^^
    If they hire a DC minded head coach, than that means the offense starts all over again with new terminology and a new system.

    The offense would regress and that is NOT what this team needs!

    The offense scores enough points to win games. The Defense needs a better DC who knows what the hell is doing like Spagnolo or Del Rio and who knows how shut opposing offenses down in crtical situations and can discipline these players on defense and call a smart effective game on defense!

  424. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    Armond, every first down teams know we are running left tackle, why not mix it up a bit, they are waiting for us, Duh!

  425. silverback Says:

    Lost in the fury is that the Raiders oline had a solid game today.

  426. TheGreatness Says:

    I agree that Chuck B. is garbage, but at the same time look at what he’s working with. The problem is talent and the fact we don’t have any on D. I’m watching this Raven/Charger game, we don’t have one player on defense the would start on the Ravens.

  427. UCLA Raiders Says:

    This team is killing me.
    Blame whoever you want for this debacle and choke job or whatever you wanna call it. The fact is this team needs a major overhaul especially on defense. Could they do it? Looking at AD’s track record over past decade for making appropriate changes you know he couldn’t do it. Mark Davis better hire someone w a resume and pray.
    IMO management will give another year to Hue no matter what fans say about him. Even AD gave Cable a second year despite his despise for him.
    Losing like this hurts.

  428. armond Says:

    dknight7 the offense doesnt score enuff points to win games. we leave alot out on the field. if u know u have a sh!tty defense then u have to score alot of points. we dont so we lose more than we should. this is why hue cant leave points on the board. if he takes a risk then it needs to be more of a calculated risk. it is a mistake to leave it up to this defense to win a game for u. that is a coaching error. he’s made several of them.

  429. eastoaklandraider Says:

    All you hue bashers need to get the f@ck outta here if carson hits those two passes which were wide open you all would be on his nuts now so either know something about the game or get the hell out tired of all you banwagon fans who ride our nuts when we win and when we lose you come in here with all your kneejerk reactions talkin a bunch of BS. All our playmakers are hurt and we have the worst D coord in the league that’s why we lose period.

  430. autopalm77 Says:

    KNight, excellent points yet you don’t make any mention of my to small criticisms that may have very well cost the season…

  431. Raider J Says:

    Choked big time. The whole organization looked “scared to lose” instead of “ready to win.” Must bounce back. The division is within reach. Finish strong!

  432. Gerard Says:

    Palmer misses wide open guys..one in particular could have won the game and it’s Hues fault?

    If u can’t trust your “elite” qb to make a play then you’re screwed.

    I don’t care if Plamer threw for 700 yds. He choked when it counted most.

  433. JT Says:

    what a devastating loss when the raiders could have been in 1st place.

    this one hurtd bad. its the type of game that warrants big chsnges to the team

    1-new DC
    2-fix the whole D
    3-new GM
    4-find a running back that’s durable.

    this was probably the season…

    rod woodson, your secondary got burned for 2 TD’s in closing minutes.

  434. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    UCLA, that is why AD called play in from the box, his coaches have always been yes men, get over it. AD would of won this game, Hue sold it away!

  435. autopalm77 Says:

    Come on with the DHB cost us the game…Kid played hard and got stripped from behind…

  436. Sullivan44 Says:

    I don’t think Hue’s going anywhere. Mark Davis’s first fire is not going to be a head coach that’s given us our most exciting season since 2002.

  437. lefty12 Says:

    Auto,I almost went through the screen when he didn’t kick the FG.As Madden used to say-take the points,especially that early in the game.We should have gone for 2.But even with those decisions we should have won the game if the defense did their job.Players don’t make every play.Coaches make decisions that sometimes don’t work.That is part of the game.But,when you are in the position we were in today,even with those bad decisions and a couple of missed plays on offense,we should have won the game.

  438. anthonyraiders Says:

    Im happy to have Palmer as the Raiders quarterback and I think next year, the Raiders will improve alot with him. Defense is the problem and until the Raiders decide on a defense the problem will exsist. Pick a 3-4 or 4-3, draft and pick up players in free agency who can play that defense. Get a coach who is an expert at that defense and then build on this consept. As for today zone should be completely taken out of the defensive game plan. Are defense is not ready for zone.

  439. zopi Says:

    Look at how SD is doing a number on BMore, just to show what a team needing to ball is supposed to do.

  440. bubbaisaraiderfan Says:

    I wldnt b so sure about palmer pre med mike, I live close to cincy and used to b forced to watch him every week he was no way worth what we gave up. could’ve used the picks to get a real mlb and more help at corner! by the way, we should explore using pryor like donkeys use tebow. hes just as big, faster and put him in a spread (like he ran at osu) with bush, jones and a healthy mcfadden (if he ever could stay healthy) as an occasional chng of pace hed make tebow look like he running in cement!

  441. DKnight007 Says:

    # armond Says:
    December 18th, 2011 at 7:35 pm

    dknight7 the offense doesnt score enuff points to win games. we leave alot out on the field. if u know u have a sh!tty defense then u have to score alot of points. we dont so we lose more than we should. this is why hue cant leave points on the board. if he takes a risk then it needs to be more of a calculated risk. it is a mistake to leave it up to this defense to win a game for u. that is a coaching error. he’s made several of them.

    ^^^^^^^^
    Thats why Hue is gambling and going for it on that bomb to Chaz…to close it out!!

    Chaz should have caught that ball and on that earlier play to Moore in the 1st quarter, it worked but the DB help D Moore and that should have been called a PI.

    Offense can’t be expected to do it all…especially with DMC, Ford and T Jones out.

    The Raiders offense is not as good as the Pats offense.

    No rolling coverage over to help out whoever was covering CJ was simply stupidity on Chuck B’s part. The guy has no freakin clue how to run a defense appropriately or how to discipline them!

  442. armond Says:

    424.860Todd Christensen Says:
    December 18th, 2011 at 7:34 pm
    Armond, every first down teams know we are running left tackle, why not mix it up a bit, they are waiting for us, Duh!

    ——————————————————-
    what the fugg are u duhing about? are u being a smartazz? i have no clue what u r talking about. bottomline is hue cost us this game just as much as the defense. but go ahead and defend that arrogant prick. yall deserve this loser sh!t.

  443. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    Man looking at the stats it is hard to stomach this loss man.

    D@mn, D@mn, D@mn!!!!!

  444. autopalm77 Says:

    Gerard, you way off base….DMoore was held at the 10 and it wasn’t called…Chat should have made the catch….Rewatch those plays…..Players win as a team or in this case lose…..Your argument is not at all valid….

  445. lefty12 Says:

    Quit rewriting history.Chaz should have caught the ball.If that had been DHB you’d be on here screaming about how he dropped it.Chaz actually dropped a couple of balls today.He isn’t the sure handed receiver we all thought he was.

  446. TiredRaiderFan Says:

    Plenty of blame to go around for bringing us fans to a new low (as if we didn’t think we could get any lower):

    Blame Al for: hiring Hue, hiring Tom Cable, hiring lane Kiffin, hiring Norv Turner, re-hiring Art Shell. Haven’t had a decent coach since Gruden. And let’s be honest, the main reason was because Al had become toxic and no decent coaches wanted to work for him.

    Blame Hue for: the stupid Palmer trade and for not holding his players accountable for idiotic plays. Game management sucks. Bully? What bully? Do we ever just kick anybody’s a**?

    Two horrible decisions by Hue today: not going for 2 points after the last touchdown (why not?-if we don’t convert-we lose by two instead of one, who cares). If we convert, we should be in OT with a chance. The Schilens’ pass on third down was dumb and how can he actually trust that POS defense?

    Blame Palmer for not being clutch. I don’t care if you have 400 yards, you need to put the ball in Schilens hands(not diving)when he is wide open.

    Who among us didn’t absolutely KNOW that the Lions would march down the the 98 yards and score. I knew it was over the minute the Lions had the ball on their own 2 yard line.

    The Raiders are like the friggin’ scarecrow, tin man, and lion in the Wizard of Oz; No Brains, no Heart, no courage. I guess no playoffs.

    There’s no effing way I watch the game on Saturday. Ain’t going to ruin my Christmas by watching this pathetic team. The wife doesn’t want to be around me when the Raiders CHOKE anyway.

    Is there a more tortured fan base than the Raider Nation?

  447. DKnight007 Says:

    Hue is a rookie head coach…with his star player on offense hurt. He is going to make mistakes…but at least the guy has balls to try and close out games. If Palmer and Chaz can’t execute, than that is the way it is.

    One thing is for certain.

    Chuck B still SUCKS as the Defensive Coordinator and this has not changed since the preseason!!

  448. anthonyraiders Says:

    I agree a little with 440. Next year I would like to see a little Pryor in the offense. Mix it up. I know for sure the Raiders will stick with Palmer next year and that’s smart. I really believe with an offseason with these recievers, this offense will be unstoppable. If Campbell is aloud back as the quarterback of this team, the Raiders will never win over 8 games.

  449. RaiderSean Says:

    @Anthonyraiders

    What up man? Hope you’re good. Nice post.

    Draft? Draft what? Al traded most of our draft, for a broken collarbone, 1 fumble recovery for a touchdown along with a myriad of dumb penalties and a Richard Seymour that looks, I don’t what, but he ain’t the Richard Seymour I remember from the other team he played for.

    We have compensatory picks that really won’t help us much other than for depth purposes. The team’s lost. The HC is bewildering, I don’t know where along that Hue lost this club but he did lose them and we’re on the Titanic. I’m in a zone of confusion.

  450. JT Says:

    Palmer is not the problem, its mcfadden not being there. bush doesn’t scare defenses. and the wide receiver play is very basic stuff, that doesn’t scare defenses either

    but this game was lost by that frigging raider secondary which got torched

  451. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    I love watching McClain try to cover Johnson down the field. Who makes that call?

    WTF is he doing covering the best WR in the deep thirds of the field? Not to mention McClain’s half @$$ attempt on the ball. What a scrub!

    Our defense and coordinator are so bad it is amazing we made it this far.

  452. DKnight007 Says:

    # armond Says:
    December 18th, 2011 at 7:35 pm

    dknight7 the offense doesnt score enuff points to win games. we leave alot out on the field. if u know u have a sh!tty defense then u have to score alot of points. we dont so we lose more than we should. this is why hue cant leave points on the board. if he takes a risk then it needs to be more of a calculated risk. it is a mistake to leave it up to this defense to win a game for u. that is a coaching error. he’s made several of them.

    ^^^^^^^^
    Thats why Hue is gambling and going for it on that bomb to Chaz…to close it out!!

    Chaz should have caught that ball and on that earlier play to Moore in the 1st quarter, it worked but the DB help D Moore and that should have been called a PI.

    Offense can’t be expected to do it all…especially with DMC, Ford and T Jones out.

    The Raiders offense is not as good as the Pats offense.

    Not rolling coverage over to help out whoever was covering CJ was simply stupidity on Chuck B’s part. That should have been for most of the game!! The guy has no freakin clue how to run a defense appropriately or how to discipline them!

  453. Gerard Says:

    Raiders may finish BEHIND sd and Denver in the west.

    Funny that NFLN was asking if this were a SB contender just a few weeks ago.

    OMG.

    This is a whole team loss. Palmer could have made it a moot point by hitting that wide open Schilens play, but then the defense did what we all KNEW they would do. They let the Lions go 98 freaking yards to win the game.

    Good defenses don;t let that happen..at home with EVERYTHING on the line.

    Not even AVERAGE D’s let that happen.

    Unbeleievable choke job.

  454. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    JT they got torched in a prevent defense. LMAO!!! Could they be more soft?

  455. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    FIRE CHUKY B! what a piece of xit. Stanford Routt aint far behind. The D suxs, Mclain jogs on blitzes, wimbley can cover a TE if his life depenbded on it, The DTs play one game take 5 off, the CBs are plain zhit, the safeties are clueless…to top it all off CHUKY B has a mental handicap.

    gotta score 30+ to win with this POS D

  456. autopalm77 Says:

    Lefty, AGREE, especially after the beauty by Lechler….WIN, LOSE OR TIE….RAIDER TILL I DIE….I had to go hammer my vette immediately after this one…..REALLY TOUGH TO SWALLOW….Hope Hendu saved me some vodka….!!!!

  457. armond Says:

    441.DKnight007 Says:
    December 18th, 2011 at 7:40 pm
    # armond Says:
    December 18th, 2011 at 7:35 pm

    dknight7 the offense doesnt score enuff points to win games. we leave alot out on the field. if u know u have a sh!tty defense then u have to score alot of points. we dont so we lose more than we should. this is why hue cant leave points on the board. if he takes a risk then it needs to be more of a calculated risk. it is a mistake to leave it up to this defense to win a game for u. that is a coaching error. he’s made several of them.

    ^^^^^^^^
    Thats why Hue is gambling and going for it on that bomb to Chaz…to close it out!!

    Chaz should have caught that ball and on that earlier play to Moore in the 1st quarter, it worked but the DB help D Moore and that should have been called a PI.

    Offense can’t be expected to do it all…especially with DMC, Ford and T Jones out.

    The Raiders offense is not as good as the Pats offense.

    No rolling coverage over to help out whoever was covering CJ was simply stupidity on Chuck B’s part. The guy has no freakin clue how to run a defense appropriately or how to discipline them!

    ——————————————————-he left a possible 5 points on the board. a fg for jano in the 1rst qtr. not going for 2 on our last td.how about trying to get the 1rst down with the run while it was working.that way your defense wouldnt even have been on the field the final 2 minutes. the best way to protect the defense is to take the points and control the clock at the end of the game. he doesnt do that and it cost us.this aint the 1rst time he fugged up doin this.

  458. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    445.lefty12 Says:
    December 18th, 2011 at 7:42 pm
    Quit rewriting history.Chaz should have caught the ball.If that had been DHB you’d be on here screaming about how he dropped it.Chaz actually dropped a couple of balls today.He isn’t the sure handed receiver we all thought he was.

    ——————————-
    Chaz is cut after this year!

  459. nycraider Says:

    giants beat the jets next week and bengals lose one of last 2 and we get the wildcard if we win last 2..or we win last 2 and broncos lose to chiefs we win division..

  460. zopi Says:

    What would next year first round draft pick be right now?
    Top 12 or 15. Imagine if the Raiders gave that and the 2013 first, what would that get you? Carson Palmer? Are you kidding me?

  461. Blackmamba_20 Says:

    stafford ran right threw Rolando arm tackle… ugly

  462. fingers Says:

    At least 3 or 4 diffrent plays could have changed the outcome.. Really not any one persons fault…. A few goats..

  463. DKnight007 Says:

    # Gerard Says:
    December 18th, 2011 at 7:45 pm

    This is a whole team loss. Palmer could have made it a moot point by hitting that wide open Schilens play, but then the defense did what we all KNEW they would do. They let the Lions go 98 freaking yards to win the game.

    Good defenses don;t let that happen..at home with EVERYTHING on the line.

    Not even AVERAGE D’s let that happen.

    Unbeleievable choke job.

    ^^^^^^^
    Yep!

    Chuck B is gone immediately after the season…or as soon as the Raiders are officially eliminated from the playoffs!!

  464. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    Will all of you please you join my chant now??? FIRE CHUKY B! FIRE CHUKY B!

  465. fingers Says:

    This team just can’t close it out yet… The lions wanted it more

  466. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    KC, now that is a D!

  467. DKnight007 Says:

    Wow. Now we are talking about coaching decisions to “protect the defense”??

    Sheesh….

  468. anthonyraiders Says:

    @RaiderSean
    I personally would love to see a 3-4 out of the Raiders. Hopefully we get a pick in the 3rd round for Asomough and with the rest of the picks Dline. Hopefully we get a gem. Free agency, pick up a NT for 3-4. Then we have Seymor on one side, Houston on the other. Outside LB Wimbley and Moss. Hopefully a replacement for Moss but thats what we have. Curry and McClain in the Middle. Get a 3-4 DC and that’s the only defense that makes sense to me.

  469. autopalm77 Says:

    Fingers, AGREE, always calling out a single play or player is not productive or an accurate way to assess a loss…When you don’t like a player one will always call them out no matter how he plays…

  470. wasbanned Says:

    Jerome Boyd is horrible.

  471. JT Says:

    I’m hurting bad after this loss…

    this is probably the most devastating loss since the tuck game…

  472. wasbanned Says:

    If Eagles fire Andy Reed, the Raiders should do whatever they can to get him.

    Tired of rookie coaches.

  473. autopalm77 Says:

    JT…That is not possible….I feel ya…..WOW….

  474. armond Says:

    nice game by dhb. hate that he fumbled but he really played well. i have no idea why people talk about his body cathes when he has clearly made several hands catches. evey wr has some body catches. his dropped at the end actually saved palmers azz. if he caught it time wouldve ran out and jano wouldnt get a chance to win it. im really proud of him for the progress hes made. now i just wanna see him be more of a playmaker. 2 day was a good start.

  475. joetoronto Says:

    How the fukk do you call a Cover 2 Zone when Johnson has killed you all game AND your down to your 4th string safety. (Boyd)

    Defenses that run the Tampa 2 have good safeties, safeties that can run & cover, BUT EVEN THEN, they don’t use it in situations like that, it’s just too easy.

    With God as my witness, when the Lions were down inside our 10, I said to my son that Stafford would run it into the end zone on the next play. The Lions call a timeout and when they came back to the line, the Raiders front had a huge gap right in the middle.

    Keep Al Saunders, make him the OC and get rid of Hue Jackson & Chuck Bresnahan.
    Stafford walks in.

  476. lefty12 Says:

    Autopalm77 Says:
    December 18th, 2011 at 7:52 pm
    Fingers, AGREE, always calling out a single play or player is not productive or an accurate way to assess a loss…When you don’t like a player one will always call them out no matter how he plays…
    ————————————————————————
    Bingo!

  477. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    Looks like DHB will actually be serviceable, all the hard work and pro-attitude has worked….Mclain on the other hand looks like he has fallen off the abyss, zero effort, lack of interest, PLUS He is slow! BUUUUUUST

  478. Raider J Says:

    4th qtr defense has looked confused and overwhelmed throughout the season. Opponents WRs have been wide open routinely on crucial drives. There have been some big stops too. Overall, there needs to be major improvements on D.

    In all fairness, no one expected this team to be have clinched the west by week 15. 9-11 wins and a playoff bid was my barometer & its still in reach so…

    GO RAIDERS
    JUST WIN BABY!!!

  479. armond Says:

    467.DKnight007 Says:
    December 18th, 2011 at 7:51 pm
    Wow. Now we are talking about coaching decisions to “protect the defense”??

    Sheesh….

    ——————————————————-
    doesnt harbaugh protect alex smith from himself? the best coaches know what their strentghs and weaknesses are. yes we have to protect our defense with better offense. thats how we can stop u from ranting all the time. until we get a better dc and some good players thats what we will have to do. why are u surprised by this? all good coaches adjust their coaching style to their personel.our hc doesnt which is why we’re inconsistent.

  480. anthonyraiders Says:

    Wow I was so hoping to not be looking forward to next year, this year. This was a very hard loss and now I find my mind in the future. One thing I know for sure, Chuck B has to go. I understand having a lack of quality players but mental lapses and players just not being in position, play in play out, is just horrible. He has know control over the defense and should be fired as soon as possible.

  481. bubbaisaraiderfan Says:

    I agree with all who think chuckie and the d is the biggest problem, but Im telling you, carson palmer is the KING of the chokers! I promise you that if he is starting qb next year we miss playoffs again! At least with soup we knew we were a run first team and called plays accordingly! if we run 35+ plus times a game we keep our lousy d off the field and we wear theirs out!

  482. zopi Says:

    Rivers putting on a clinic tonight.

  483. DKnight007 Says:

    wasbanned Says:
    December 18th, 2011 at 7:55 pm

    If Eagles fire Andy Reed, the Raiders should do whatever they can to get him.

    Tired of rookie coaches

    ^^^^^^^^
    Only head coaches I want the Raiders to get to replace Hue are Fisher or Reid.

    Get Fisher and keep Saunders as the OC and hire Spags, or Del Rio as the DC……maaaaaybe.

    If the Raiders lose the next two games, than Hue might be on the hot seat. If he wins out, than he probably won’t be.

    Regardless, Chuck B and his incompetence running the D is GONE BABY GONE!!!

  484. eastoaklandraider Says:

    If we can get an elite DC and somehow snag a great DB we should be a 12 win team next year

  485. Gerard Says:

    In all fairness, no one expected this team to be have clinched the west by week 15. 9-11 wins and a playoff bid was my barometer & its still in reach so…

    I don’t care. They had a team down at their own 2 freaking yard line WITH NO TIMEOUTS with the season on the line and 2 mins left and they COULDN’T F’ING CLOSE IT OUT.

    That is a choke job of major proportions. How can anyone accept that? Unless you really don’t care that much.

  486. DKnight007 Says:

    Get and elite DC add another CB and a nickel and add a beast NT and another vet MIKE to compete and push McClain

  487. Gerard Says:

    484.eastoaklandraider Says:
    December 18th, 2011 at 8:03 pm
    If we can get an elite DC and somehow snag a great DB we should be a 12 win team next year

    Nah. Knowing the Raiders they’ll just find some other way to f it all up.

  488. anthonyraiders Says:

    Soup could not have had the game Palmer had today, if he was in a wet dream with Jerry Rice and Tim Brown as his recievers. Soup is average at best. Never has he won a big game in his career. Soup is a one read QB, when that read is not there, He falls apart. Soup is good for 8 wins with McFadden and Bush healthy. 5 Wins with them hurt, if that. Give Palmer a year and I really believe he will win alot.

  489. DKnight007 Says:

    # armond Says:
    December 18th, 2011 at 8:01 pm

    467.DKnight007 Says:
    December 18th, 2011 at 7:51 pm
    Wow. Now we are talking about coaching decisions to “protect the defense”??

    Sheesh….

    ——————————————————-
    doesnt harbaugh protect alex smith from himself? the best coaches know what their strentghs and weaknesses are. yes we have to protect our defense with better offense. thats how we can stop u from ranting all the time. until we get a better dc and some good players thats what we will have to do. why are u surprised by this? all good coaches adjust their coaching style to their personel.our hc doesnt which is why we’re inconsistent.

    ^^^^^^^
    Oh jeez…the Niners have a LEGIT above average DEFENSE that helps that one dimensional offense out!!

    If the Raiders had a good defense and a good defensive coordinator like the Niners have, they would have wrapped up the division by now!

  490. ArtilleryShell Says:

    Guys I need time to recover I hate our 4th quarter def I have no confidence in them we used to win games in the 4th quarter not lose them. I been saying bresnahan was bum ski for awhile but truthfully He was limited today by personnel Huff instead of Boyd and we when I like Hue but he makes some bad decisions Should take the points games aren’t won in the first quarter (Green Bay aside) but the play to Schilens how about putting Terrelle Pryor I and pitching it to him with a run pass option

  491. hendu Says:

    DKnight007,Im all for NEVER seeing Chuck B with headsets on,unless its for Sd,Kc or Db.

  492. Gerard Says:

    I’m sorry but after this game today, I am really down on this whole organization.

    Disappointed doesn’t even begin to describe it.

    Too bad it’s the fans that care more about the team than the players.

    They’re all smiles afterwords. Sure, they SAY how disappointed they are, but I don’t think it even scratches the surface of how miserable they made alot of the fans.

  493. eastoaklandraider Says:

    All you hue bashers need to get the f@ck outta here if carson hits those two passes which were wide open you all would be on his nuts now so either know something about the game or get the hell out tired of all you banwagon fans who ride our nuts when we win and when we lose you come in here with all your kneejerk reactions talkin a bunch of BS. All our playmakers are hurt and we have the worst D coord in the league that’s why we lose period.

  494. Gerard Says:

    483.DKnight007 Says:
    December 18th, 2011 at 8:02 pm
    wasbanned Says:
    December 18th, 2011 at 7:55 pm

    If Eagles fire Andy Reed, the Raiders should do whatever they can to get him.

    Tired of rookie coaches

    ^^^^^^^^
    Only head coaches I want the Raiders to get to replace Hue are Fisher or Reid.

    Get Fisher and keep Saunders as the OC and hire Spags, or Del Rio as the DC……maaaaaybe.

    If the Raiders lose the next two games, than Hue might be on the hot seat. If he wins out, than he probably won’t be.

    Regardless, Chuck B and his incompetence running the D is GONE BABY GONE!!!

    Hue is 7-7 with the arrow pointed DOWN.

    Cable was 8-8.

    Hue is no better than Cable.

    Save the fat jokes and someone give me some statistical backing for why that would not be true.

  495. bubbaisaraiderfan Says:

    With no draft picks, only one way to get help for d. Trade dmac ( i hate to say it, love his talent but dude cant stay healthy,) and seymore (on the downside) and get a first and second use them on d and get a real hc (fisher, cower, reid, gruden) and real dc

  496. Gerard Says:

    I’m not saying Hue sucks as a HC, even though he hasn’t fixed one damn thing he said he would.

    -Run D?- NOPE

    -Penalties?-NOPE

    How about those playoffs he promised?

    I don’t think Hue sucks as a HC, but how is he a drastic improvement over Cable? He’s not. Doesn’t mean he sucks neccessarily.

  497. eastoaklandraider Says:

    Gerard they all go to million dollar homes and beautiful women how mad can they be

  498. Gerard Says:

    ANY intelligent coach goes for two…period. Or, takes the pts. instead of going for it on 4th down.

    Hue doesn’t even know the fundamentals.

  499. bubbaisaraiderfan Says:

    I’m not saying that soup is the second coming of plunkett or stabler, but he wouldnt have thrown 3 or 4 picks in a game (think kc game or GB game)Palmer has never been the same since pittsburg broke his leg in 05. Hue wants to throw 30+ with palmer and he just doesn’t have it. Maybe with Hue gone, we wouldnt try that with palmer but one good STATISTICAL game does not a great qb make!

  500. anthonyraiders Says:

    Awesome point Eastoaklandraider.
    The Raider players these days go home to the there beautiful rich lives because the Raiders organization made it that way. Todays players come to the raiders for the money and not to win. Until that mindset changes and players come to the Raiders to make money and win, these problems will exsist. The Raiders need to decide the kind of team they are and base there team on that plan. We have a team with players out of position and coaches who should not be coaching. I like Hue. I want to see him prove himself and build a coaching staff and team around his ideas.

  501. bubbaisaraiderfan Says:

    Hickery dickery dock
    the raiders were running out the clock
    Hue said no
    we’re going to throw
    and now he’s on the chopping block!
    and to make matters worse the dolts kickin the @$% out of balt!

  502. anthonyraiders Says:

    Statistics don’t make a quarterback but Soup’s 14 for 20, 165yds a game also is not going to win a championship. Soup has to have a great, great, great running game and an easy opposition to win games in the NFL. Palmer at least gives the recievers chances and puts points on the board when there is no running game. We lost today because our defense was out of position in zone. Which they are every week. Chuck’s fault.

  503. bubbaisaraiderfan Says:

    i hear ya anthony, but trust me palmer runs hot and cold EVERY year. I live 30 min from cincy have seen him since a rookie and hes just not the same since he was hurt. every bengal fan i know laughing at that trade and for good reason. I don’t blame you for thinking the way you do about him you havn’t seen him day i day out like i have. he has a sub .500 record for a reason ( and no its not all becauz bengals are screwed up) but you are right, main problem is defense

  504. bubbaisaraiderfan Says:

    PS palmer hasn’t won a big game since 05!

  505. bubbaisaraiderfan Says:

    Well folks, I’m done venting. Lets at least hope we beat kc and sd and salvage some pride! Everyone try and have good week.

  506. RaiderSam Says:

    Look,,you could talk about the worst game and bad decisions…

    you could talk about losing a game with 13 point lead with 6 minutes left

    you could talk about us being on Detroit’s 21 yard line and Hue Jackson going for on 4th down instead of taking the FG

    you could talk about Tennessee, Denver and the Jets losing, and, we let the Lions waltz for 99 yards with 2 min left

    or you could talk about Bresnahan calling a defense that puts our MLB in deep coverage on Calvin Johnson(!)

    the bottom line is…this team is having to come back from …its owner dying, its players getting relatives shot, a multitude of injuries, bad, long term expensive contracts (Seymour, Routt, Huff, Kelly and DHB) and bad trades.

    its having to come back from nearly 8 years of horrific coaching turnover and game management.

    We could have had Calvin Johnson, yet he went 9 catches for 241 yards and 2 TD’s…. what did our first round pick do…he had his best game
    yet dropped a key pass, then Schilens dropped another.

    This team has to get a GM and get the parts in place. We went for a QB and crapped out, mortgaging the future,
    but what choice did we have? There was no GM to make the key decision, nor an efficient scouting system that could work, because the coaching turnover lent us no identity?

    The Niners did it the simple way – play defense, run the ball and don’t turn it over. This element of a defensive minded head coach could help turn this around, but were swimming up stream. Simply not enough play makers MAKING PLAYS in key situations. – had Schillens made the catch late, that’d put Sebass in for a higher percentage 54 yard FG instead of a 64 yd FG that was partially blocked anyway.

    This team remains a work in progress that has to get an identity. Tim Tebow proved one thing, a man who is a winner can change the complexion of an entire team. They must search high and low for players with those intangibles; leadership, determination, perseverance.
    They have been losing for too long, and it has created habitual deficiencies they havent learned to overcome.

  507. BloodRaider Says:

    Detroit is just a better team.
    Maybe we’ll be a real NFL team next year.

  508. GG Says:

    Oh man this was nasty. A blowout that you can tell is coming after the first offensive series (3 and out) is terrible. But these 4th Qtr comeback losses, in the last seconds, are god-awful. So many moments could’ve sealed the game. The D played so well for large slabs, but those Boyd and Mitchell blown coverages, and the McClain on Calvin, were gut-wrenching. Hue again with the 3rd and 3 bomb FFS, and not taking the FG early. On that 3rd and 3, perfect opportunity for a Reece run, or a Reece pass into the flat, or dump it over the middle to Bush/Reece/Boss.

    What a blown opportunity tho, with the Tebowites losing. Now Chargers (and even Chiefs) can still win the division.

    You can almost see it now lol (angry lol), Raiders drop their last two, Broncos drop their last two, and the Chiefs/Chargers end up winning the division. Raiders could’ve been that.

    McKenzie (as GM) or whomever we hire, has got to be priority person. Meaning, he’ll come in and evaluate Hue and the entire staff, fashion the football department from the top down. Not be brought in because he can work with Hue and who doesn’t have ultimate say to totally re-evaluate everything (including firing Hue/etc if he wants to).

    2012 gotta be about getting Pryor starter ready. The whole Palmer trade was all about playoffs now, 2011, and seeing as we blew it, then they gotta look at the long-term future (ie, Pryor not Palmer).

  509. GG Says:

    Btw, here’s why Hue MUST go…

    This whole roster, team, playbook after this debacle of a late season collapse will not recover and buy into Hue for 2012.

    A new GM must be hired, with his own vision, and full control of the football department. He MUST put everyone on notice, and work his way thru the roster and coaching staff (and admin staff) and build HIS team with HIS coaches anew, with none of this last few years baggage of Kiffin-Cable-Jackson (curly, larry, mo) that the playing group got developed under.

  510. HERKY515 Says:

    Such potty mouths here. Is it really that difficult to formulate and express a thought (term used loosely) without expletives? Goodness Gracious!

  511. hujackeditup Says:

    Hubris cost us this game…The so called head coach is of the mind set that he must put his “stamp” on this season, thus he continues to call plays straight from the Madden ‘12 playbook…very simply, you take the 3 on that first drive…very simply, 4th and one, just over 2 minutes left, your oppenet has no timeouts left and MB has been pounding it in the second half, you run the ball!!! VERY SIMPLY!!! u are up 12 after scoring a touchdown with 8 minutes left you go for the fuggin 2 point conversion!!!How in gods name can he sit there and say “i thought kicking it was the right call! Hujack, you are to stupid to have an ego that big…All that said! boot his dumb ass and GO RAIDERS!!

  512. hujackeditup Says:

    yeah i know…3rd and 3

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