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Making sense of Raiders’ decision-making

Still subbing for Steve Corkran today . . .

For what it’s worth, and right now its worth about as much as Raiders’ first-round playoff tickets, here’s a few opinions and second-guesses about what transpired in the Raiders’ 28-27 loss to the Detroit Lions and the season through 14 games:

– I didn’t have any problem with either of the pass plays that helped cost the Raiders the game against Detroit. You traded a good part of your future for Carson Palmer precisely because he has the ability to make both the fourth-and-1 pass to Denarius Moore in the first half, and the third-and-3 pass to Chaz Schilens in the fourth quarter.

Hit either one and it’s the ball game. For a quarterback of Palmer’s passing skill, those are nearly layups. Hue Jackson held Schilens responsible in the aftermath of the game, but Palmer took the blame afterward. Yes, Schilens could have caught it, but it wasn’t a typical soft Palmer pass. It came in flat and hard, unlike most of his throws.

– Having discussed the situation with a few other non-experts such as myself today, I’m of the belief the Raiders didn’t go for the two-point conversion after the Aaron Curry touchdown simply because Jackson and Co. got caught up in the moment and didn’t think about it.

When you’re on offense, coaches are always looking ahead. What do we do if we score? What’s our next move? On Curry’s defensive touchdown, there was no such train of thought. Jackson simply sent out the extra-point team as quickly as possible without even pondering the point total. That’s where you need a wise old hand somewhere who is always thinking down the road and has access to the head coach in those situations _ the football version of a baseball bench coach.

– Michael Huff has been hurting most of the year and hit and miss in the secondary, but they really missed him against Detroit. There were safety help issues on the 51-yard Matthew Stafford to Calvin Johnson touchdown, the 48-yard sky shot from Stafford to Johnson, and the game-winning 6-yard pass to Johnson. Even if Huff makes just one of three of those plays, it’s a different result.

– The Raiders have given up 27 touchdown passes a year after giving up 28. Their pass defense is as much to blame as their run defense for being in the position they’re in.

They were playing Cover 2 to hide their weaknesses in the secondary and still couldn’t pull it off. Bad idea to have Rolando McClain and Jerome Boyd responsible for Johnson? Absolutely. But that ball was there for the taking. Either man could have been a hero simply by getting a hand on it.

– Darren McFadden, still day to day . . . right. Actually saw McFadden coming into the stadium when I went back out to my car because I’d forgotten my phone. Said hello and asked if we’d be talking soon. He just said hello, shrugged his shoulders and smiled.

If the Raiders knew McFadden was going to be out a good long time immediately after being injured seven games ago, they did him a disservice by stringing along the possibility he’d be able to play, because it makes it appear as if he doesn’t want to. No one who runs as hard as McFadden when healthy is a sit-it-out type. Sadly, he simply may not have the body to hold up over a season. He hasn’t been able to do it yet.

– Jackson said the reason Marcel Reece didn’t touch the ball in the second half was more three wide receiver sets. Considering the Raiders scored 17 points by halftime, and needed a defensive touchdown in the second half to get to 27, perhaps they should have run more sets with Reece in the game.

– The grim reality is this _ if the Raiders lose their last two games and finish 7-9, the Chiefs finish 7-9 and the Chargers and Broncos each have a better record, Oakland, in terms of seeding, would finish in last place. The Bengals would be getting a draft pick better than they ever imagined for Palmer, but at least the pick the following year would be in the second round.

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Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer

  • RaiderRetribution

    KC sweeps last two games, they would simply need for the Raiders OR Detroit to defeat San Diego & Denver to lose to Buffalo.

    San Diego needs for Denver to lose against Kansas City just like we do, but they also need for Denver to lose to Buffalo as well [we do not].

    in fact the Denver v Buffalo game is completely irrelevant to our Raiders should we defeat Kansas City.

    It’s only relevant to Kansas City & San Diego.

  • doriangray

    since tebow is gods cousin and tom brady is the antichrist & belicheck is evil . did heaven lose a football game to hell ?

  • http://Raiders4Ever.com 860Todd Christensen

    Our secondary is second to none in speed, unfortunately, bad angles, lightness, and bouncing off tackles still remains a big problem. HUE?

  • chappy23us

    Hue is beginning to look like a snake-oil salemsan who is in over his head as a HC. Whoever the next GM is (it better not be Hue) must bring in a strong assistant who can help Hue with game management. Secondly, I dont want to hear Hue running his mouth about making the “best trade ever” or getting a pedicure/manicure for an ESPN spot this week. The man has proven to be more style than substance in my opinion

  • morilla

    Leftwich looks like all he’s been doing is hitting the all you can eat buffet.

  • http://www.raiderettes.com Sullivan44

    860Todd Christensen Says:
    December 19th, 2011 at 7:59 pm

    Our secondary is second to none in speed,

    ……….

    Another characteristic of our secondaries over the past couple of decades. They were fast. I’ll give them that.

  • http://www.raiderettes.com Sullivan44

    We’re were 7-4 at one point this season. Even if we tank from there, that’s a significant improvement over the past 8 seasons. It would be crazy to get rid of Hue. And Mark Davis doesn’t look crazy to me.

  • 8RaiderReign8

    It sux

    But, at least we know we can beat teams. This is what climbing the ladder looks like.

  • devilr8er

    As Romo said we have no boar hunters on this team.

  • http://www.raiderettes.com Sullivan44

    8RaiderReign8 Says:
    December 19th, 2011 at 8:03 pm

    It sux

    But, at least we know we can beat teams. This is what climbing the ladder looks like.

    ……….

    Exactly. And this is his FIRST season, for crying out loud.

  • Just Fire Baby

    While we are at it, can we please get a guy on punt returns to come up and fair catch the ball?

    Why is this so hard for us? We have been doing it for about 3 years running now.

    PUnter hits a 40 yard wobbler, and our return guy just waves it off, and let’s it bounce for 10-15 yards.

    It is so FKN annoying!!!

  • silverback

    Wasn’t it reported that Mark Davis had drinks with Norco Bob.

  • RaiderRetribution

    That Kansas City could still win our division really pisses me off.

  • http://Raiders4Ever.com 860Todd Christensen

    Chappy, it’s the Dem thingy, from Cali, get the teleprompter, eat it up. I think someone from Cali, thinkin Pelosi, has gotten to our org since AD passed. Sorry state of affairs, we are limping, and the trainers are responsible for all the hammies!

  • doriangray

    anybody ever tried pure malt a men cologne by thierry malgo . just a perfect concoction that drives the ladies wild & gives a man that auora of power . quite simply the best fragrance in the world.

  • Just Fire Baby

    At least Carson Palmer went from 31st in the league in QB rating up to 26th now.

    Only, Tavaris Jackson is 25th, which is a scary thought.

  • doriangray

    i also like perry ellis 360 black , get as many compliments on it as i do issey miyake .

  • Blackmamba_20

    47.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    December 19th, 2011 at 7:52 pm
    Silverback Says:
    December 19th, 2011 at 7:48 pm
    I wonder where Method and MistaBrown were today? Did not see a post from either all day.
    ——–
    Since they are the same person, it makes sense that they would both be missing. Method probably got arrested yesterday, or jumped off the Bay Bridge.

    ———-

    No way there the same, Meth is loose as hell and Brownie likes to ROFL far to much.

    On a side note, darren is young as hell and hasnt got to many miles on his clock,, has he been unfortunate or is he made of glass??

  • morilla

    Doriangray Says:
    December 19th, 2011 at 8:06 pm
    anybody ever tried pure malt a men cologne by thierry malgo . just a perfect concoction that drives the ladies wild & gives a man that auora of power . quite simply the best fragrance in the world.
    ———-

    Hahahaha, wtf?

  • http://Raiders4Ever.com 860Todd Christensen

    Dorian, CK-1 and they’ll lick you til dawn,,,,,

  • http://www.raiderettes.com Sullivan44

    For all of Cali’s weirdness, people won’t stop coming here. Rows of subdivisions going up in just about every rural area. Something about Cali that just has the world on our nutsack.

  • doriangray

    so im gonna wear the pure malt right . then im gonna rock my gucci loafers rihgt . then i just bought this hard azz dark gray leather jacket. buy a bottle of armand de brignac . & the club is mine on new years !!

  • RaiderRetribution

    we were 7-4 last year, lost to Miami (at home again) with a losing record, had a big lead on Jax and lost to them as well only difference this season we were at home against Detroit, which does make it worse.

  • silverback

    Sounds like a good place for a bullet train.

  • doriangray

    uhh toddchris.. ck1 is for d-bags and dudes that work at abercrombie as a cashier .

  • raiderjhawk

    “That’s where you need a wise old hand somewhere who is always thinking down the road and has access to the head coach in those situations _ the football version of a baseball bench coach.”
    ===================================================
    Okay, so what’s Saunders supposed to be?

  • silverback

    Doriangray Says:
    December 19th, 2011 at 8:11 pm
    so im gonna wear the pure malt right . then im gonna rock my gucci loafers rihgt . then i just bought this hard azz dark gray leather jacket. buy a bottle of armand de brignac . & the club is mine on new years !!
    —-
    Beecham is that you. Sly devil

  • RaiderRetribution

    there is still the potential for the Raiders to have the 7th overall position in the draft, should we get swept.

  • http://Raiders4Ever.com 860Todd Christensen

    71.Sullivan44 Says:
    December 19th, 2011 at 8:10 pm
    For all of Cali’s weirdness, people won’t stop coming here. Rows of subdivisions going up in just about every rural area. Something about Cali that just has the world on our nutsack.

    ————————————————

    Yes sully, called section 8, food stamps, and 3 generations of manipulating the federal gavernment. Everone who works for a living pays for this, and throw in 22 million illegals, makes a perfect pot pie! You cookin? lol

  • RaiderRetribution

    2-4 in our division; giving that wife beater an opportunity to laugh his a$$ all the way to the bank, here in the PNW, is enough for me to fire Mr. Jackson.

  • http://www.raiderettes.com Sullivan44

    RaiderRetribution Says:
    December 19th, 2011 at 8:12 pm

    we were 7-4 last year, lost to Miami (at home again) with a losing record, had a big lead on Jax and lost to them as well only difference this season we were at home against Detroit, which does make it worse.

    ……………

    Actually, the real world says we were 5-6 after 11 games last year. But in your world, we probably were 7-4.

  • doriangray

    which raider fan wouldnt give their left nut for steeler safety ryan clark ? would huff ever hit anybody like that ? who has ball skills like him on our team ?

  • 8RaiderReign8

    Maaaaaaannnnn Hue made some really bad decisions. Why the deep pass on 3 and 3? When we needed to run the clock. Why not kick the FG? Maaaannnn

  • raiderjhawk

    That’s the thing Dorian, we have to many of the same type of player in our secondary. We needs some dudes like clark on our squad.

    Like Ice Cube said, “all cats no dogs.”

  • http://raiders.com Albert Bigelow Paine

    860Todd Christensen Says:
    December 19th, 2011 at 8:14 pm
    71.Sullivan44 Says:
    December 19th, 2011 at 8:10 pm
    For all of Cali’s weirdness, people won’t stop coming here. Rows of subdivisions going up in just about every rural area. Something about Cali that just has the world on our nutsack.

    ————————————————

    Yes sully, called section 8, food stamps, and 3 generations of manipulating the federal gavernment. Everone who works for a living pays for this, and throw in 22 million illegals, makes a perfect pot pie! You cookin? lol
    ——–
    It’s the weather stupid.

  • RaiderRetribution

    I would not care about losing salary cap dollars for the 2012 season, especially if it saves the Raiders in real dollars.

    Cut and/or Trade:
    Mr. McClain, Mr. Seymour, Mr. Wimbley, Mr. Houston, Mr. Routt, Mr. Huff, and/or Mr. Palmer.

    We can get multiple mid round picks (2nd through 4th round) for all of these men.

  • qodrn1

    Okay, people.

    When the 49ers reach the 40 yard line of the opponent, they are calling that Green Akers. Quick, what does the Raider nation call it?

  • doriangray

    raiders would be the best flag football team in history . would go 3 straight seasons undefeated

  • RaiderRetribution

    double checked, you’re correct, damn I hate having to be corrected by likes of you Sully (we were just 5-4 before the bye then lost two straight)

  • RaiderRetribution

    1-9 in 3rd down says it all.

  • doriangray

    qodm1 , the opponents 40 yard line ? oh raider nation calls that the point where carson palmer takes a sack, d.h.b. drops an open pass , & hue stands on the sideline looking confused.

  • devilr8er

    # RaiderRetribution Says:
    December 19th, 2011 at 8:20 pm

    I would not care about losing salary cap dollars for the 2012 season, especially if it saves the Raiders in real dollars.

    Cut and/or Trade:
    Mr. McClain, Mr. Seymour, Mr. Wimbley, Mr. Houston, Mr. Routt, Mr. Huff, and/or Mr. Palmer.

    We can get multiple mid round picks (2nd through 4th round) for all of these men.
    ___________________________________________

    McClain-Huge salary hit if we cut him, the guy can’t play-Maybe a back up to Travis Goethel next year.
    Seymore-Hoping he retires, doubt he leaves 15 million.
    Wimbley-Davis was to quick on that huge pay day. Not the game changer we all thought he be.
    Houston-No Way the guy is legit.
    Routt-After the lions game wish we had Aso locking up the 1.
    Huff-Inconsistent
    Palmer-Jury is still out, needs a whole OTA and camp.

  • morilla

    Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    December 19th, 2011 at 8:19 pm
    860Todd Christensen Says:
    December 19th, 2011 at 8:14 pm
    71.Sullivan44 Says:
    December 19th, 2011 at 8:10 pm
    For all of Cali’s weirdness, people won’t stop coming here. Rows of subdivisions going up in just about every rural area. Something about Cali that just has the world on our nutsack.

    ————————————————

    Yes sully, called section 8, food stamps, and 3 generations of manipulating the federal gavernment. Everone who works for a living pays for this, and throw in 22 million illegals, makes a perfect pot pie! You cookin? lol
    ——–
    It’s the weather stupid.
    ———–

    That and there are a million things to do here. You don’t need to leave the state.

  • eastoaklandraider

    Hue jackson is doing a great job if palmer connects on either of those passes which he should have nobody is complaining. Only person who needs to be fired is Chuck B. And some of you fans

  • doriangray

    no no no, the reason people coming to cali is cus of the b!tches … and the weed , and people want to be actors or sum crap .

  • devilr8er

    # doriangray Says:
    December 19th, 2011 at 8:35 pm

    no no no, the reason people coming to cali is cus of the b!tches … and the weed , and people want to be actors or sum crap .
    ___________________
    Going back to cali strictly for the weather, b!tches, and the weed.

    All of you are correct.

  • beach

    Defense wins in the NFL. The Oakland Raiders have no concept of that.

  • joker94583

    I would love it if the Raiders were in the NFC West. Champs every year!

  • ChrisinNC

    Joker94583 Says:
    December 19th, 2011 at 8:51 pm
    I would love it if the Raiders were in the NFC West. Champs every year!

    ——————————

    Don’t know how much better the AFC West is. Pretty interchangeable, if you ask me.

  • qodrn1

    New post; sort of.