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McFadden, Ford not practicing once again

By Steve Corkran
Thursday, December 22nd, 2011 at 11:51 am in Oakland Raiders.

Running back Darren McFadden and wide receiver Jacoby Ford are not practicing today. That all but eliminates any chance they have of playing Saturday against the Kansas City Chiefs.
Official word should come in about 90 minutes, when coach Hue Jackson speaks with the media after practice. However, Jackson has a long history of not playing anyone who doesn’t practice the week before a game.
Free safety Michael Huff is riding a stationary bike right now. That makes it conceivable that he intends to join the fray once the Raiders convene for full-team drills. He has not practiced all week. Jackson said Huff needs to practice today if he is to play Saturday.
Defensive tackle John Henderson missed practice once again because of a sore knee. So, don’t count on him playing, either, given he hasn’t practiced at all the past two weeks.
Wide receiver Louis Murphy is back on the field after missing Wednesday’s practice because of “tightness” in an undisclosed body part.
Denarius Moore and T.J. Houshmandzadeh are fielding punts in practice today, with Bryan McCann handling kick returns. Not sure why Tyvon Branch isn’t getting any reps on kick returns after Jackson raved about Branch’s ability in that capacity.

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  • No Mas Diamante

    mitchell should bulk up and move to LB

  • LA to TheBay

    GG,

    I think we should have 9 or 10 wins right now. We have been let down. I agree.

    My point is with Hue specifically.

    Post game rhetoric?

    I just don’t know what you guys expect out of professional athletes and coaches.

    Complete candor? The only time that happens is when there’s a meltdown in the locker room or in the athlete/coach’s brain.

  • ElkGRaider

    98.John David Booty Says:
    December 22nd, 2011 at 1:44 pm
    Barkley will stay.

    USC will be National Champs 2012.

    Barkley will win the Heisman.

    At the same time, another former Heisman winning QB from USC will be leading his team to the Super Bowl.

    His name is Carson Palmer.

    Fight On!

    Go Raiders!
    ========================

    Man…I hope so. Barkley will be a better pro than Luck (save that quote somebody) but I want to see him play in the national championship. It will make USC the place it was before the Bush incident.

  • ElkGRaider

    I for one never called out Hue. Its gotta be tiring having to do the personel moves, deal with headaches (Rolando), AND come up with a gameplan every week. But hey…thats what he gets paid to do.

    That last loss was depressing though…

  • LA to TheBay

    Mitchell should just shut down tight ends for 10 plays a game.

    And maybe play special teams.

    Maybe.

  • VanHeathen

    With th New CBA…
    Barkley will make more money staying at USC.

  • LA to TheBay

    With th New CBA…
    Barkley will make more money staying at USC.

    ——

    LMAO

  • VanHeathen

    I like Hue, but his Riverboat Gambler playcalling has us looking like the ‘Riverboat STUMBLER” and we’re about to fall overboard…disgusted.

  • LA to TheBay

    I like Hue, but his Riverboat Gambler playcalling has us looking like the ‘Riverboat STUMBLER” and we’re about to fall overboard…disgusted.

    ———–

    I’m more upset about the execution, really.

  • http://ggeden.wordpress.com/ GG

    LA to TheBay Says:
    December 22nd, 2011 at 1:48 pm

    GG,

    I think we should have 9 or 10 wins right now. We have been let down. I agree.

    My point is with Hue specifically.

    Post game rhetoric?

    I just don’t know what you guys expect out of professional athletes and coaches.

    Complete candor? The only time that happens is when there’s a meltdown in the locker room or in the athlete/coach’s brain.

    the post-game rhetoric i mean is all the deflecting of owning up to his specific failures or failed decisions and blaming stuff on other things, and the rex ryanisms. hue can be very candid, intelligent, and funny, and obviously there are many things a HC has to be coy and tactical about, etc. the main problem i have with him is the deflecting of his own specific bad decisions etc, and his self-promotional speak that is geared towards getting RaiderNation to associate with him, to see him as a leader and heir of Al’s ways, which is understandable too.

  • SilverNBlackPA

    LA to TheBay Says:
    December 22nd, 2011 at 1:39 pm
    Don’t get half of the guys in here painting Hue as some sort of deceptive villain.

    +++++++++++++

    I don’t think Hue is a villain.

    I think he’s in deeply over his head.

  • http://ggeden.wordpress.com/ GG

    basically, he talks the talk, but doesnt walk the walk, if i could put it all simply.

  • LA to TheBay

    Hue’s got an ego. No doubt.

    I think he believes in all of those gambles.

    I do too, honestly.

    Most everytime he gets ballsy, it was the right playcall, just doesn’t always get the execution.

    Nobody was complaining about Lechler’s TD pass.

    I think it’s because Hue knows what’s on the other end — a crappy D (or in the Lechler TD case, Kyle Boller).

  • LA to TheBay

    GG Says:
    December 22nd, 2011 at 1:55 pm
    basically, he talks the talk, but doesnt walk the walk, if i could put it all simply.

    ———

    He’s walking barefoot right now, IMO.

    Put some Adidas on that man!

    (Adidas = good DC and a GM).

  • Silverandblack666

    The problem I have with Hue is he is 7-7 and we fired Cable for 8-8. We all expected more out of this team this year than 7-7.

    Then there is the “ME” thing Hue loves himself some Hue!

    There is no other logical explanation as to why you would let an ESPN writer follow you to a pedicure.

  • http://build-a-bully 909RaiderLifer

    CorkOnTheNFL Defensive coord. Chuck Bresnahan said two primary goals against Lions were to limit running game and WR Calvin Johnson. “Failed” on 2nd one.
    2 minutes ago
    “““““““““““““““““““““““““““`
    Uhh, no sh^t Sherlock……

  • Dr. Hunter S. Thompson

    Someone had to tell Huey that Branch is too valuable to be returning kicks.

    Just Win Baby.

  • LA to TheBay

    The problem I have with Hue is he is 7-7 and we fired Cable for 8-8. We all expected more out of this team this year than 7-7
    ———-

    This is my problem.

    Everything else, I really don’t give a sh;t. Manicures and rhetoric and ego and etc, etc., etc.

    Doesn’t bother me. I want results.

    If Hue gets us to 9-7, he made a stride.

    Not a big one, but he made a stride… especially if we somehow make playoffs.

    Guys get that excited at 7-4, had their playoff brackets warmed up, to forget what we’ve been through for 8+ years?

    I’ll take a winning season as a consolation prize. But we shoulda been division champs or at least make the playoffs.

    Still could.

  • Dr. Hunter S. Thompson

    Hue was deceptive when he claimed that he didn’t blow the call on the 2 point conversion.

  • http://ggeden.wordpress.com/ GG

    LA to TheBay Says:
    December 22nd, 2011 at 1:58 pm

    GG Says:
    December 22nd, 2011 at 1:55 pm
    basically, he talks the talk, but doesnt walk the walk, if i could put it all simply.

    ———

    He’s walking barefoot right now, IMO.

    Put some Adidas on that man!

    (Adidas = good DC and a GM).

    —-

    im not anti-Hue, in that respect, him coming back could be fine. as long as hue is truly UNDER the GM, not the raiders going along with Hue’s vision and handing him a tailor-made GM for him like a Millen etc.

    Also, whilst it’s very true about the DC and GM thing, you cannot say the offense has not been a major problem too, and in many ways or games worse than the D. When a team has serious problems, it occurs right thru every facet and position. Where Hue is rightly copping anger is that he is the HC who over-sees the entire on-field, from pre-game to next pre-game.

    We can pardon Hue, tho we didn’t pardon Cable. I didnt like Cable much, much less than Hue. Im okay with Hue getting another opportunity. The worry is that whole “next year syndrome” and with an autonomous GM that makes Hue almost a lame duck HC like Mangini in Holmgren’s first year, especially if we start off bad, it will implode.

  • Dr. Hunter S. Thompson

    BIG IF.

  • LA to TheBay

    2 point conversion is actually something he said he would have reconsidered.

    I mean, at the time we had MAJOR momentum. 13 points and 7 minutes should get you a win, especially if your punter put it on the ONE.

  • Silverandblack666

    “If Hue gets us to 9-7, he made a stride.

    Not a big one, but he made a stride… especially if we somehow make playoffs.”

    So true!

  • Dr. Hunter S. Thompson

    Reconsider????

    Basic math.

  • LA to TheBay

    Hunter S. Thompson,

    How often do you see teams up by 6 score a TD and go for 2 with that much time left on the clock?

    Yeah, me neither.

  • Seymour Bush

    # LA to TheBay Says:
    December 22nd, 2011 at 2:06 pm

    2 point conversion is actually something he said he would have reconsidered.

    I mean, at the time we had MAJOR momentum. 13 points and 7 minutes should get you a win, especially if your punter put it on the ONE.
    =============================================

    I was more concerned about the deep ball on the 3rd down to ice the game. Very curious call. Al Saunders called that same play against Chicago, which ended up winning the game. The issue I have is it is a low percentage play. I LOVE the pass call, because I don’t think we passed the ball once that drive. The Lions had come up in run support on the 3rd and short. Going deep was just not the right call there. A shorter or medium pass was. Not going for two?? Foolish.

  • inonewordraider

    Glad Barkley’s staying but I guess he didn’t got to Leinert for advice and he’s one injury away from making the dumbest mistake of his life

  • Dr. Hunter S. Thompson

    LA TO TheBay, the situation called for going for two.

    Do you agree or disagree?

  • LA to TheBay

    Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
    December 22nd, 2011 at 2:12 pm
    LA TO TheBay, the situation called for going for two.

    Do you agree or disagree?

    ———————-

    I’m not going to lie and say I was screaming for two.

    I thought we had enough momentum at that point and we were not giving the lead up.

  • fingers

    No turnovers… Keep the penalties down.. Run Bush…pressure Orton..
    And the Raiders beat the Chefs…

    Raiders 33… Chefs 17…

  • alex7

    GG

    Hue does not have his hand in every jar. Not even close.

    He didn’t draft these athletes.
    He’s been hands off the defense from pre-Davis to post-Davis.
    He had no say in these athletes not being allowed to learn modern-day zone defense the last 3 decades.
    He didn’t waste a 1st rounder on an aging Seymour and put him out-of-position as a 4-3 DT.
    He didn’t cause injuries to his starting QB, RB, WR1, WR2, and starting safety.
    He didn’t let Nnamdi walk for nothing, and fail to replace the infamous “$15 million” for 3 players.

  • http://ggeden.wordpress.com/ GG

    We cant keep hiring and firing coaches, but the reason we could now is a new legit GM, as the previous one towards the end wasn’t fully accountable, didnt have scholarships, etc, and not operating (naturally at 80 yo) at full capability. When we had Al in those end-years, we needed a stabilizing HC, and not hiring/firing them like he did.

    But if we do get a genuine legit and autonomous GM, then another HC and thus scheme/etc change is reasonable whether he blows it up 2011 or end of 2012.

    Hue did get too high for his britches, did make it more about himself etc, and has let things get out of hand, taken more control than he is qualified for, and there has been lockerroom rumblings etc that can be seen in comments here and there.

    We can all agree at least that there are problems inside the football department, some stemming from Bres, some from the clowns in the team, some from Hue, some from other background parties interfering, etc. Things aren’t progressing upwards, as the on-field results have shown (many near losses to bad and injured teams, many blowouts to better teams that genuine playoff contenders dont let happen, at least not often). These same problems exist in other orgs currently like the Giants-Coughlin, Bucs-Morris, etc. That’s always sign of internal sh^t going on.

    Again, the imperative to install a top-shelf autonomous GM and let him fully decide everything below, however he sees fit, Hue or no Hue, lots of player there or cut, i dont care what, as long as we install that system then we increase the orgs chances of success and growth.

  • Dr. Hunter S. Thompson

    It has nothing to do with momentum and everything to do with math.

    There is a 2 point conversion chart. The chart says go for two.

    It isn’t debatable.

    Just Win Baby.

  • RaiderCrunch

    98 fckng yards in 75 seconds, WTF

  • http://ggeden.wordpress.com/ GG

    * did have scholarships, and many other problematic aspects going on around rosters/personnel etc.

  • RaiderCrunch

    Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
    December 22nd, 2011 at 2:20 pm
    It has nothing to do with momentum and everything to do with math.

    There is a 2 point conversion chart. The chart says go for two.

    It isn’t debatable.

    Just Win Baby.

    ———————

    Hue forgot his abacus in the locker room. Bresh left his mind in there at the half.

  • ElkGRaider

    WOW…Barkleys staying. USC is back!! Watch the recruits start signing…(looking at you Arik Armstead, Shaq Thompson)

  • ElkGRaider

    134.RaiderCrunch Says:
    December 22nd, 2011 at 2:21 pm
    98 fckng yards in 75 seconds, WTF
    =====================

    Happens when the scheme is “lets have our MLB cover the most dangerous player in the game”. Save the cover 2 crap. BOTH safties should be on that…

  • Silverandblack666

    “98 fckng yards in 75 seconds, WTF”

    More of a reason to be upset than the 2 point conversion!

    At the time we were ahead by 13 points I thought we would score again with 7 minutes left even a damn field goal!

  • ElkGRaider

    127.inonewordraider Says:
    December 22nd, 2011 at 2:12 pm
    Glad Barkley’s staying but I guess he didn’t got to Leinert for advice and he’s one injury away from making the dumbest mistake of his life
    ========================

    Called insurance. Barkley will be fine. The automatic #1 QB next year…

  • http://ggeden.wordpress.com/ GG

    When we had Al in those end-years, we needed a stabilizing HC, and not hiring/firing them like he did….this downward spiral started with Gruden’s departure. If only Al and Gruden/Allen could’ve better co-existed and/or Gruden not wanted to leave for greener pastures, even if Gruden eventually left say 2007/2008/2009, because he sucked, we at least would’ve been better off w-l wise, and could have transitioned better 2011 when Al passed away and we NOW had to bring in a new GM who had to blow it up.

  • LA to TheBay

    Or we could end up with another matt Millen at GM… hell we could end up WITH Mat Millen as GM, lol.

    Keep Hue, fire Bres.

    Let Hue do his thing as a real NFL HC would do from day 1 of 2012 season to the last day.

    Just my opinion.

    Harbaugh and Sparano have guys thinking rookie head coaches win 12 games in a year happens all the time.

  • fingers

    John Madden… The Raiders defense played the Lions to Soft… They just sat back and let the Lions make plays … They Went into that ” Zonie thing”…

    John Madden to Rich Gannon.. Yesterday on Sirius NFL Radio…

  • alex7

    Matt Barkley staying at USC.

    Good long-term decision.

    Highly-rated Junior QBs that come out have a much higher failure rate than Senior QBs.

  • alex7

    GG

    take a deep breath. Nothing is being blown up.

    We have a great offensive-minded head coach.

    We have great young talent that suffered unfortunate injuries all in the same season.

    We have pieces on D that can be coached up and become at least league-average. Curry, Shaughnassy, Huff, Routt, McClain (in his natural 3-4), Bryant, Wimbley, Van Dyke, Gio…

    We’re going to continue to be a playoff-caliber team going forward.

  • LA to TheBay

    We’re going to continue to be a playoff-caliber team going forward.

    ———–

    Got some work to do.

    But I agree.

    I’m half way in ‘next year’ mode (and legitimately excited about it) but THIS season is coming down to the last 2 games.

    NOther than complete domination, this is not a bad way to close out the year.

    Comes down to a trio of AFC West Slugfests.

  • http://ggeden.wordpress.com/ GG

    LA to the Bay…

    if the GM ends up a Millen or weak kind of GM, as a Hue partner, equal footing, just to “help along” and give support etc, that’s not good and also sign of lingering internal power/vision struggles. There are many Raider Football things that should never change, the uniforms etc, and maintaining the quick strike, power blocking, speed-height-weight-strength, QB pressure, disrupting the passing game, press man coverage etc, but better blended in with modern schemes and packages, and defensive trickery and versatility, etc. And thru hiring the best and creative coaches, impressive qualifications etc. Just like any large company pawing thru piles of candidates to scoop up the cream of the crop, the future trend-setters and shakers. Not bed and breakfast type “he can tolerate Al and run his systems for cheap pay and happy to have a job in the NFL bottom-tier type coaches, from HC all the way thru to positional coaches” thing.

  • http://ggeden.wordpress.com/ GG

    Alex7…

    Cant say Hue is “great” offensive-minded coach. He’s learning the ropes very much still. X&O wise especially. Hue is promising as an OC/HC. Definitely. Does not compare whatsoever to Cable, who was a hire as stated above.

    We have a number of great young talent, but like shown in the previous blog, push comes to shove there about 11 keepers on D, and about 15 keepers on offense. 26/53 sure-fire keepers. There’s a lot left over from there to upgrade the roster (at other starting positions and back-ups to push the starters/depth). There are a handful more players that could/should be retained under better coaching that can be improved upon. Then a number more (the rest) who are very expendable.

    There’s hope, and as shown often in other orgs, very do-able to turn a team around quickly. But it again relies on the top-down GM thing. Because there are many other orgs who continue to try to turn it around quickly (thru top-down GMs that are lower-shelf quality, and/or thru poor coaching hires (main down to positional), like McDaniels HC Broncos, or McDaniels OC Rams, etc.

    One more time….realistically and I expect it too, Hue will return, and Palmer, and 75% of the roster, and a GM will endeavor to patch it up with only 2 draft picks, but if Hue fails again, even early/mid season, it can get blown up if the GM is truly autonomous and there’d be nothing wrong with that IF that happened.

  • Seymour Bush

    Cheats are playing well right now. Their defensive line has finally come alive. Orton is an upgrade for them. Battle and Thomas Jones are running the ball well. They are going to pose some problems.

  • joker94583

    The Vajayjay Brigade! McFragile is the CEO!