McFadden working hard to get back before season’s end
By Steve Corkran
Thursday, December 22nd, 2011 at 2:36 pm in Oakland Raiders.
An ESPN report Thursday said Raiders running back Darren McFadden met with Dr. Robert Anderson last week in an attempt to get a better feel for whether he can return this season from the midfoot sprain that has forced him to miss the past seven games.
McFadden reportedly underwent a slew of tests — C-T scans, MRIs and X-rays — on his right foot. Dr. Anderson told McFadden that the foot hasn’t healed all the way and that, for McFadden to play again this season, he would have to find a way to deal with the pain.
McFadden has not spoken with the media since he suffered the injury Oct. 23. Jackson on Thursday refused to rule out McFadden for Saturday’s game against the Chiefs.
“Obviously, it doesn’t look great if a guy’s not out here moving around,” Jackson said of McFadden, wide receiver Jacoby Ford, free safety Michael Huff and defensive tackle John Henderson. “But they’re not totally ruled out as of yet.”
That determination will come Friday, the day the Raiders fly to Kansas City.
McFadden jogged and worked on lateral movements with a team trainer on Tuesday. Jackson said McFadden was sore, as expected, Wednesday as a result of the strenuous workout.
It’s tough to envision McFadden playing Saturday, given he hasn’t performed any football-related activities for 60 days. He certainly won’t play in the regular-season finale against the San Diego Chargers on Jan. 1 unless the Raiders still are in playoff contention.
The Raiders would be eliminated from playoff contention Saturday if they lose to the Chiefs, the Denver Broncos beat the Buffalo Bills and either the New York Jets or Cincinnati Bengals win.
BRESNAHAN ANSWERS TOUGH QUESTIONS
Defensive coordinator Chuck Bresnahan was criticized for the way his defense performed late in the fourth quarter of a 28-27 loss to the Detroit Lion on Sunday.
The Lions cobbled together back-to-back scoring drives that covered 17 plays and 169 yards in 4 minutes, 23 seconds, and resulted in touchdowns for the come-from-behind victory.
Bresnahan disputed the notion that the Raiders played a prevent defense or that the scheme changed in any way because of the seemingly insurmountable lead.
“If you look at the game, we didn’t do that,” Bresnahan said. “We stayed with a four-man rush, we stayed with our coverage approach.”
The problem was execution, he said. In particular, a 48-yard pass from Matthew Stafford to wide receiver Calvin Johnson never should have happened, regardless of the fact Johnson was covered by middle linebacker Rolando McClain and backup safety Jerome Boyd.
Bresnahan admitted the McClain and Boyd lost sight of the ball as it floated through the air and into Johnson’s hands despite Johnson having to break off his route and come back for the ball, with McClain and Boyd flanking Johnson.
“There’s things, though, that happened at the beginning of the play that we didn’t execute properly to disrupt the whole timing of that route, and I put that on my shoulders because we didn’t get it done,” Bresnahan said. “We did not get it done and we will because, when you have one red dot, that red dot is not going to do what he did to us.”
The “red dot” refers to the target on Johnson going into the game as the one player the Raiders had to stop, at all costs.
Johnson caught nine passes for 214 yards and two touchdowns.
“We only had one target,” Bresnahan said. “At the end of the day, we failed because, when you allow somebody to have 200-plus yards in receiving yardage and making impact plays like he did, we obviously didn’t do a good enough job on defense.”
As for using McClain and Boyd on Johnson, instead of No. 1 cornerback Stanford Routt, Bresnahan seemed content with the alignment.
“At this time, (Boyd’s) our starting safety and that’s our package,” Bresnahan said. “Our ‘Mike’ (middle) linebacker is a middle-of-the-field player but not over the top. He’s an inside player looking for the in routes, and our safety is over the top. Again, that’s stuff that we’ll handle in our room. But, no, when you look at the entire play, it should never have gotten to that (point).”
ODDS AND ENDS
Jackson said there’s a realistic shot of Denarius Moore returning punts against the Chiefs. Bryan McCann and T.J. Houshmandzadeh handled that role against the Lions, while Moore eased his way back into the lineup after missing three games.
“There’s a good chance he could be back out there and give us a little spark and a little lift in another area for our football team,” Jackson said of Moore.
Running back Michael Bush (shoulder) was limited in practice Thursday. However, he should be at full strength for the Chiefs game.
“Mike will be fine,” Jackson said. “Mike’s a warrior. He’ll show up and he’ll play well.”
Jackson added that Bush shouldn’t be as worn down on the heels of back-to-back games in which he carried the ball fewer than 20 times.
“He’s carried the ball quite a bit,” Jackson said. “There was a stretch there where he was averaging 30 attempts a game. At some point in time that catches up to you. He hasn’t carried as much the past couple of weeks. We’ve played some physical teams and he’s been slamming that ball up in there the way you have to run the ball.”
Offensive coordinator Al Saunders said the Raiders need to rely upon Bush more than they have the past two games.
“Our back has been tagged a little bit as the one to stop going into the games,” Saunders said. “He’s done a terrific job for us. We have to be more of a balanced attack. When we’re passing and running with efficiency, your running game becomes that much better.”
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December 22nd, 2011 at 2:37 pm
Called insurance. Barkley will be fine. The automatic #1 QB next year…
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would you have done it?
December 22nd, 2011 at 2:37 pm
We’re going to continue to be a playoff-caliber team going forward.
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Got some work to do.
But I agree.
I’m half way in ‘next year’ mode (and legitimately excited about it) but THIS season is coming down to the last 2 games.
NOther than complete domination, this is not a bad way to close out the year.
Comes down to a trio of AFC West Slugfests.
December 22nd, 2011 at 2:38 pm
What up, Steve??
Either holla at your boy and give me the inside scoop or kick rocks.
December 22nd, 2011 at 2:41 pm
for McFadden to play again this season, he would have to find a way to deal with the pain.
Adn a doctor said that to McFadden? Hmmm…
December 22nd, 2011 at 2:49 pm
The Raiders would be eliminated from playoff contention Saturday if they lose to the Chiefs, the Denver Broncos beat the Buffalo Bills and either the New York Jets or Cincinnati Bengals win
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Really?
I guess cause even if the Broncos win that and lose to KC, they still have a better record against common opponents or something?
Steve, I thought the division record came first, then common opponents?
December 22nd, 2011 at 2:49 pm
Oh, nevermind — read it wrong.
If the Raiders lose AND yada yada yada.
December 22nd, 2011 at 2:50 pm
hwnrdr Says:
December 22nd, 2011 at 2:41 pm
for McFadden to play again this season, he would have to find a way to deal with the pain.
Adn a doctor said that to McFadden? Hmmm…
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if there’s no risking further damage he has to play. I’m not a pro football player I know but I played with a helluva lotta pain for free, your teammates need you out there, your one of the captains, MAN UP!
December 22nd, 2011 at 2:51 pm
LA and Alex, see last blog for my replies. No need to copy-paste over. But yeah, we can give that particular debate a rest! And talk about other stuff, and let others dictate the topics.
I’m also about to call it a day too. Will check in asap, and thanks again to all for a meaty chat.
December 22nd, 2011 at 2:51 pm
So if we beat the Chiefs and Chargers and show that we’ve cleaned up penalties issues, defensive woes, CP balls out and Hue calls a correct game, is this season a success?
Is it a success if we just beat them by no more than 1 point each?
Is it a success if we go 9-7 and miss playoffs?
December 22nd, 2011 at 2:53 pm
Agreed. If there’s no potential for further damage on DMac’s injury then he should be pushing to get back.
December 22nd, 2011 at 2:54 pm
GG Says:
December 22nd, 2011 at 2:36 pm
LA to the Bay…
if the GM ends up a Millen or weak kind of GM, as a Hue partner, equal footing, just to “help along” and give support etc, that’s not good and also sign of lingering internal power/vision struggles. There are many Raider Football things that should never change, the uniforms etc, and maintaining the quick strike, power blocking, speed-height-weight-strength, QB pressure, disrupting the passing game, press man coverage etc, but better blended in with modern schemes and packages, and defensive trickery and versatility, etc. And thru hiring the best and creative coaches, impressive qualifications etc. Just like any large company pawing thru piles of candidates to scoop up the cream of the crop, the future trend-setters and shakers. Not bed and breakfast type “he can tolerate Al and run his systems for cheap pay and happy to have a job in the NFL bottom-tier type coaches, from HC all the way thru to positional coaches” thing.
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That’s all I’ve wanted from Al and this organization for years.
We can still play Raider ball without being completely stuck.
Frankly, I think Al has been pulling us up since 08 tho.
December 22nd, 2011 at 3:07 pm
yo
December 22nd, 2011 at 3:08 pm
funny how hue refers to bush as a “warrior” and dmc is “uhhh…there is no timetable yet…” great another coach “thats on me…” well when the heckDorothy Christine Ramirez is it going to be on the sorry players? other teams cut players when they eff up but “thats on me.”-huey…
December 22nd, 2011 at 3:09 pm
when al let go jasuckus russel things started to get better
December 22nd, 2011 at 3:12 pm
Hue never really considered putting McFadden or Campbell on IR — no need on roster and “nothing out there”
12.22.2011 at 12:12 PM
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This is part of my problem with Hue…
No NEEDS!..how about a competent back up Safety, how about a back to spell Bush since Jones was out for a month??? dude has holes throughout his lineup, but defends his poor judgement with statements that are not true…JC is STILL on the roster, and we’ve done nothing to help this team in our areas of need.
Sounds like Hue’s the one packing it in…
December 22nd, 2011 at 3:14 pm
1.inonewordraider Says:
December 22nd, 2011 at 2:37 pm
Called insurance. Barkley will be fine. The automatic #1 QB next year…
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would you have done it?
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I may have. I dont know.
You know…his decision could have also been affected by the way Sanchez left. There was no QB to take the reins. Barkley was a freshmen QB thrown to the wolves. Maybe he loves the school that much.
Time for Arik Armstead and Shaq Thompson to sign! Get it done!
December 22nd, 2011 at 3:15 pm
4.hwnrdr Says:
December 22nd, 2011 at 2:41 pm
for McFadden to play again this season, he would have to find a way to deal with the pain.
Adn a doctor said that to McFadden? Hmmm…
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Exactly…
December 22nd, 2011 at 3:16 pm
dmc mailed it in….
December 22nd, 2011 at 3:19 pm
the fact that his injury isn’t healed yet…not important I take it?
December 22nd, 2011 at 3:22 pm
“the fact that his injury isn’t healed yet…not important I take it?”
The doctor told him he could play if he can take the pain….translation for those of you who did not get it the first time….no further damage will be done if you play, just pain.
December 22nd, 2011 at 3:23 pm
Obviously Ben Roethlisberger showed us that no matter how injured you are, it is ALWAYS better to play injured…
oh wait.
December 22nd, 2011 at 3:25 pm
If we can get in DMac will come back for the playoffs. I don’t think we see him any sooner than that. But if we get in and get DMac (and presumably Ford) back, look out. I guarantee you we’ll be a team no one wants to face.
December 22nd, 2011 at 3:25 pm
Silverandblack,
playing, and playing well, two different things.
It’s a foot injury on a RB. Kinda important if you want him to plant, cut, accelerate, shift to block, at a level better than Bush.
sigh, you guys are air heads.
December 22nd, 2011 at 3:26 pm
21.alex7 Says:
December 22nd, 2011 at 3:23 pm
Obviously Ben Roethlisberger showed us that no matter how injured you are, it is ALWAYS better to play injured…
oh wait.
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Has Big Ben been out 7+ weeks?!?
December 22nd, 2011 at 3:26 pm
Olinesux Says:
December 22nd, 2011 at 3:16 pm
dmc mailed it in….
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What I’d like to know, and something the Dr. did not address, is what is the risk of further injury if DMAC takes the needle and plays?
If he has not healed, and more damage can be done, SIT.
If it’s just a matter of “managing pain”, give it a go.
December 22nd, 2011 at 3:27 pm
Beg to Differ Chris:
Until our Defense STOPS 1 team, more or less a playoff caliber squad…they’ll be lining up take a match up with us.
Besides, how much do you expect from DMac after 2 months on the sidelines???
December 22nd, 2011 at 3:28 pm
23.alex7 Says:
December 22nd, 2011 at 3:25 pm
Silverandblack,
playing, and playing well, two different things.
It’s a foot injury on a RB. Kinda important if you want him to plant, cut, accelerate, shift to block, at a level better than Bush.
sigh, you guys are air heads.
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A foot sprain…A FOOT SPRAIN…you are acting as if his big toe has been cut off. Take the shot and suit up. Hopefully he is still in shape…
December 22nd, 2011 at 3:28 pm
Chris In NY Says:
December 22nd, 2011 at 3:25 pm
If we can get in DMac will come back for the playoffs. I don’t think we see him any sooner than that. But if we get in and get DMac (and presumably Ford) back, look out. I guarantee you we’ll be a team no one wants to face.
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And here lies the frustration. What if.
Of course the D has done nothing to pick up the slack.
December 22nd, 2011 at 3:28 pm
It’s a lot different for a QB to play injured as opposed to a RB, WR, DB, etc. You can play QB with limited mobility and long as your arm and head are OK.
If this injury takes away McFadden’s explosiveness there’s really no reason for him to play at an ineffective level and likely aggravate the injury keeping him out even longer.
Here’s hoping that Taiwan Jones gets more use this week and can do his best McFadden impression over the next two weeks. I think they should go to almost a 50/50 split between Jones and Bush at this point with Bush getting more work late in the game against a worn out defense. That always seems to be when Bush does the most damage.
December 22nd, 2011 at 3:29 pm
Ray Lewis was out over a month.
What does that matter?
Could he have done better than Bush the last 7 weeks playing injured? No. So why would you want him in there?
His injury isn’t healed. He’ll suck if he plays.
December 22nd, 2011 at 3:30 pm
A foot sprain…A FOOT SPRAIN…you are acting as if his big toe has been cut off. Take the shot and suit up. Hopefully he is still in shape…
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Ever had a foot sprain, in the arch of your foot?
December 22nd, 2011 at 3:30 pm
VanHeathen Says:
December 22nd, 2011 at 3:27 pm
Beg to Differ Chris:
Until our Defense STOPS 1 team, more or less a playoff caliber squad…they’ll be lining up take a match up with us.
Besides, how much do you expect from DMac after 2 months on the sidelines???
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True. But if he’s been able to do conditioning workouts that don’t affect the foot and gets a couple of weeks to train I think he’d be OK. In some ways, he’d be fresher than the guys at the end of a grueling 16-game season.
December 22nd, 2011 at 3:31 pm
Elk.
Kobe Bryant has a ligament sprain.
He’ll be hampered for a while.
Because he’s a wuss, or because athletes need ligaments to do things perfectly in order to succeed?
Hmmm.
You talk like we’re asking him to go play chess.
December 22nd, 2011 at 3:34 pm
I’m sooooooooooooooooo sure that McFadden wants nothing to do with reaching the playoffs for the first time in his NFL career.
I’m sure DMC did NOT want to keep defending his NFL leading rusher status.
I’m sure an athlete of his caliber simply quits often.
I’m sure he doesn’t care that this is costing him millions in future earnings.
Dumb and dumber with you guys.
December 22nd, 2011 at 3:34 pm
amazing how the Detroit game didn’t matter for the division, yet it did for the wild card.
The denver -Buffalo game does not matter for the Raiders one bit; we must defeat Kansas City or we are out of the division race period [due to divisional record].
Wild card race, as long as we win we are still in the hunt, if we lose we have to hope all three lose, NY, Tenn, Cincy or we are eliminated.
December 22nd, 2011 at 3:35 pm
it’s crazy that KC is in more control of their destiny than we are.
December 22nd, 2011 at 3:35 pm
alex7 Says:
December 22nd, 2011 at 3:31 pm
Elk.
Kobe Bryant has a ligament sprain.
He’ll be hampered for a while.
Because he’s a wuss, or because athletes need ligaments to do things perfectly in order to succeed?
Hmmm.
You talk like we’re asking him to go play chess.
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sounds like you never played through injury or are the type that sits it out after the paper cut. if it’s a pain threshold thing he should play, kobe does it all the time and does it effectively
December 22nd, 2011 at 3:38 pm
Here’s to New York (NFC) defeating New York (AFC), Arizona defeating Cincinnati, Jacksonville defeating Tennessee;
Raiders 31- Kanas City 10
December 22nd, 2011 at 3:38 pm
#38 happens, we just need to beat San Diego.
December 22nd, 2011 at 3:39 pm
Um, I’ve seen McFadden on the shot before.
Not pretty.
December 22nd, 2011 at 3:39 pm
His injury isn’t healed. He’ll suck if he plays
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Minor assumption, no?
December 22nd, 2011 at 3:40 pm
“Silverandblack,
playing, and playing well, two different things.
It’s a foot injury on a RB. Kinda important if you want him to plant, cut, accelerate, shift to block, at a level better than Bush.
sigh, you guys are air heads.”
Maybe you didn’t read or cant read. I was merely pointing out what the doctor said and what was meant by it. I never once said he should play at 80% or half healed.
December 22nd, 2011 at 3:42 pm
If there is no risk of further injury, and it’s a pain threshold thing, ok.
The injury is not healed. That means it’s still relatively weak.
Having been out for 7 weeks, means the DMAC we saw before injury, will not be the same player we see this week or next if he were to play.
December 22nd, 2011 at 3:45 pm
exactly, McFadden has tried playing injured before.
Saps his explosiveness.
Why are you guys so excited to see that again?
December 22nd, 2011 at 3:46 pm
To all DMC apologists:
DMC is not Barry Sanders…or even Arian Foster. He is a straightliner. Pure speed and power. Taking a shot (AFTER 7 FREAKIN WEEKS of sitting out) wouldnt hurt him to the point it would for those that shake and make more cuts. If he sucks…he sucks. But the moral of the team would be lifted. I feel the players would rally around him. For the team moral…he needs to suit up.
December 22nd, 2011 at 3:47 pm
silver,
why the backtrack? You could have “translated” it 100 different ways…like…
“your injury ISN’T HEALED YET! You can’t do what you used to do. Don’t waste a roster spot on the team that you can’t help.”
December 22nd, 2011 at 3:48 pm
I’m doubling down… won $200 last week.. patriots vs broncos. . Now I’m putting it all on Raiders -1.5… good value..
December 22nd, 2011 at 3:48 pm
Elk
didn’t know you were a sports psychologist with insight into the Raiders future morale.
Cool.
December 22nd, 2011 at 3:49 pm
Hey look! DMac is out there! Now I’ll play harder!
“Dmac stopped for a 3-yard loss.”
“Dmac can’t quite get over and misses a block, Palmer sacked.”
ummm.
December 22nd, 2011 at 3:51 pm
Alex7.. funny how you sound so much like sully… oh that’s right.. your the same Guy.. never mind!!
December 22nd, 2011 at 3:53 pm
it’s spelled you’re. You are.
I’m not, but whatever time-wasting effort makes you happy, carry on.
December 22nd, 2011 at 3:54 pm
elkG right on…some people think dmc is metcalf and sanders together…he is a straight line runner…open hole and run right through it…that iswhy he couldnt run a zone blocking play his first couple of years….
December 22nd, 2011 at 3:54 pm
I hope we never draft an RB in the first round again… ever
December 22nd, 2011 at 3:55 pm
Like everyone else, I want DMAC to play and contribute to the O.
I just don’t know how hurt, or how effective he can be.
Frustrating.
December 22nd, 2011 at 3:55 pm
LOL… OK sully!! Thanks for the grammar correction… what would I do without you…LOL carry on soldier!!
December 22nd, 2011 at 3:55 pm
so who missed bumping Megatron off the line?
December 22nd, 2011 at 3:55 pm
that explains it alex 7= sully=rmr….cya!
December 22nd, 2011 at 3:57 pm
The season had so much promise.
December 22nd, 2011 at 3:57 pm
57… LOL.. I thought everyone knew alex7 ywas a member of Sullys Muppet cast..??
December 22nd, 2011 at 3:58 pm
cya! onlinesux = just plain sux
December 22nd, 2011 at 3:58 pm
lol…my bad shoulda known a whiner fan
December 22nd, 2011 at 3:59 pm
Memo to Hue: Stick to last years gameplan (which you were part of) against the chefs at Arrowhead where we absolutely abused their off./def. lines and Bush smashed his way for 175 and a couple of TD’s, Remember we didn’t have DMAC there last year either. Please “Let’s Just Win Baby”. RAIDERS 35 chefs 10.
December 22nd, 2011 at 4:00 pm
yep, being that I predicted:
7-9 this year,
Carson Palmer,
more zone D,
an eventual move to a 3-4
and Hue has done 3 of those 4, I think I or whoever you want to label me as, and other non-blinded fans, are doing pretty dang well.
December 22nd, 2011 at 4:01 pm
raider smashed their oline and cassell wanted to cry, just like orton theweek before…pressure up front tough man to man in the back. Those qbs were throwing balls to sidelines cuz they didnt want to get hit.
December 22nd, 2011 at 4:02 pm
Alex7… let me guess. . You also hated al davis. .. LOL. ..
December 22nd, 2011 at 4:03 pm
65…too funny, lol
December 22nd, 2011 at 4:05 pm
144.alex7 Says:
December 22nd, 2011 at 2:30 pm
Matt Barkley staying at USC.
Good long-term decision.
Highly-rated Junior QBs that come out have a much higher failure rate than Senior QBs.
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Good choice by Barkley and look for USC to be back in the National Championship spotlight next year. He should be the #1 overall pick next year also.
Good for the Raiders also, just in case they end up sucking next year.
December 22nd, 2011 at 4:06 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 22nd, 2011 at 3:57 pm
The season had so much promise.
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Oh sh;t, is it over??
December 22nd, 2011 at 4:07 pm
The Fat Lady already sang.
December 22nd, 2011 at 4:08 pm
The Fat Lady sang in Miami.
December 22nd, 2011 at 4:10 pm
I hate to admit it… but I have to agree with kk. .. according to a mathematics Guy in Vegas. .Raiders only have a 6% of winning afc west… broncos 86%.. to win afc west!! That’s bad news. .
December 22nd, 2011 at 4:10 pm
As far as I know, we still have two (2) games left.
December 22nd, 2011 at 4:11 pm
alex 7 isn’t exactly the guy you go have a beer with
December 22nd, 2011 at 4:11 pm
# LA to TheBay Says:
December 22nd, 2011 at 2:51 pm
So if we beat the Chiefs and Chargers and show that we’ve cleaned up penalties issues, defensive woes, CP balls out and Hue calls a correct game, is this season a success?
Is it a success if we just beat them by no more than 1 point each?
Is it a success if we go 9-7 and miss playoffs?
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No. I think 10-6 and playoffs was the minimum. As I have said in here a multitude of times, we were coming off 8-8, with momentum, we won 3 of our last five, played Peyton and the Colts tough in one of those last losses, and came into this season with a much better attitude and promise than we have had in years. To be 9-7 and miss the playoffs really doesn’t do it for me. Especially coming off three straight last season losses two of them blowouts. If Jackson gets us into the playoffs and we win a round or two, all is forgiven.
December 22nd, 2011 at 4:12 pm
Raiders winning the division f#ck the math!
December 22nd, 2011 at 4:12 pm
Ok, I take it back.
December 22nd, 2011 at 4:13 pm
73.. LOL.. that’s why I tell him to call sully… I find him boring. .lol
December 22nd, 2011 at 4:13 pm
Not too concerned about this week. KC will be drained beating GB and all. Raiders normally play good in KC. Raiders will roll after losing 3 straight.
Oaktown 24 Chefs 10
More worried about that last game for all the marbles…
December 22nd, 2011 at 4:14 pm
Kk.. too late.. you lil bcitch raider hater..lol
December 22nd, 2011 at 4:15 pm
Think it will be slugfest in KC and slugfest in the Town.
Nothing is given at this point.
Maybe not a bad thing to have the back completely against the wall.
Lose and you’re done.
December 22nd, 2011 at 4:16 pm
Ghostraiders Says:
December 22nd, 2011 at 4:14 pm
Kk.. too late.. you lil bcitch raider hater..lol
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Right, you’re the #1 Raider Fan of all time, whatever.
December 22nd, 2011 at 4:17 pm
I expect a blow out win for Raiders at k.c…. unfortunately I think we will look back at the Detroit game and realize we lost our chance for playoffs with that game… 9+7 still not bad..atleast a winning record for first time in 9 yrs.
December 22nd, 2011 at 4:19 pm
81.. LOL..I thought you were going to come back with wanting to reassure me to how much more Raiders games you’ve been to over me… you punk asss loser. .lol
December 22nd, 2011 at 4:21 pm
Raiders 33 k.c.. 17
December 22nd, 2011 at 4:21 pm
On Covering Megatron and giving up 2 TDs in side 5 mins to lose the game
“If you look at the game, we didn’t do that,” Bresnahan said. “We stayed with a four-man rush, we stayed with our coverage approach.”
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Yes you did you ****ing idiot and Megatron had 9 catches for 214 yd s and 2 TDs you ****ing idiot!!!
And btw, genius, 4 man rush IS PREVENT!!!
Tampa 2?! Thats raider coverage?! Man the **** up! Or better yet **** OFF Bres! You SUCK!!!!
This is NOT the only time Oakland has given up that huge deep ball on that exact same play late in the game you complete ****ing idiot!!!!
If it ain’t working, hasn;t worked, STOP DOING IT!!!
December 22nd, 2011 at 4:22 pm
82.ghostraiders Says:
December 22nd, 2011 at 4:17 pm
I expect a blow out win for Raiders at k.c…. unfortunately I think we will look back at the Detroit game and realize we lost our chance for playoffs with that game… 9+7 still not bad..atleast a winning record for first time in 9 yrs.
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Should have beat Buffalo on the road. DEFENSE blows that lead!
Should have won the 2nd Denver game at home. DEFENSE blew that!
Should have beat a crappy Miami team, the DEFENSE didn’t even show up for that game!
Should have beat Detroit. DEFENSE AGAIN, blows it!
What is the pattern here my smart Raider Nation fans?
December 22nd, 2011 at 4:23 pm
Old breshnahan has to go… we definitely need a new defensive coordinator in Oakland. .
December 22nd, 2011 at 4:24 pm
82.ghostraiders Says:
December 22nd, 2011 at 4:17 pm
I expect a blow out win for Raiders at k.c…. unfortunately I think we will look back at the Detroit game and realize we lost our chance for playoffs with that game… 9+7 still not bad..atleast a winning record for first time in 9 yrs.
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You should know by now this Raider team can’t blow out anyone, because the D Coordinator, Chuck B and some of these D players don’t know how to close out games!
They stop playing in the 2nd half of games!
December 22nd, 2011 at 4:25 pm
Bad defense. .LOL.. good point.. even if al davis was still alive today.. I’m sure he would get rid of that idiot we have at d coordinator. .
December 22nd, 2011 at 4:26 pm
ghostraiders Says:
December 22nd, 2011 at 4:23 pm
Old breshnahan has to go… we definitely need a new defensive coordinator in Oakland. .
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We all knew it was a disaster day he got appointed.
December 22nd, 2011 at 4:27 pm
Kansas Shi**y is playing well. Orton is an upgrade for them, they have discovered a pass rush and their corners are very very good as Rodgers found out last week. Battle and Thomas Jones are running hard late in the year and they are playing to keep Crennell.
December 22nd, 2011 at 4:27 pm
You should know by now this Raider team can’t blow out anyone, because the D Coordinator, Chuck B and some of these D players don’t know how to close out games!
They stop playing in the 2nd half of games!
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And people wonder why Hue is a sneaky back alley 3 card monty riverboat gamblin snake oil salesman!
He don’t trust the D.
December 22nd, 2011 at 4:28 pm
Dnight. .. I know what you mean.. but Raiders normally play well vs kc in kc..
December 22nd, 2011 at 4:28 pm
90.LA to TheBay Says:
December 22nd, 2011 at 4:26 pm
ghostraiders Says:
December 22nd, 2011 at 4:23 pm
Old breshnahan has to go… we definitely need a new defensive coordinator in Oakland. .
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We all knew it was a disaster day he got appointed.
^^^^^^
Yep. It’s sad, cause most Raider fans who know football knew that was a sumb hire, but old man Al, upper management and Huey didn’t know that and settled??
Ugh…..it confuses the hell out of me.
December 22nd, 2011 at 4:29 pm
Should have
Should have
Should have
Should have
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I hate those words.
December 22nd, 2011 at 4:29 pm
Ghost,
I know. But don’t expect a blowout. Not this year, not with this defense.
December 22nd, 2011 at 4:30 pm
91.. LOL.. Kansas sh!tty chiefs. .
December 22nd, 2011 at 4:30 pm
DKnight, they tried. Settled for what they could get.
Why would a legit DC want to come in and run Al’s D?
It’s like McDonalds hiring Bobby Flay to make McDoubles.
December 22nd, 2011 at 4:30 pm
96… good point!!
December 22nd, 2011 at 4:30 pm
Predicting a blowout in KC, makes one look like a true fan.
December 22nd, 2011 at 4:31 pm
100.. f.u. you hater….
December 22nd, 2011 at 4:32 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 22nd, 2011 at 4:30 pm
Predicting a blowout in KC, makes one look like a true fan.
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No, but hoping for one means you are a true fan.
December 22nd, 2011 at 4:32 pm
I went on down to Kansas City, kickin azzez until both shoes were schitty.
December 22nd, 2011 at 4:33 pm
Absolutely nothing cool about anyone named kell. .
December 22nd, 2011 at 4:34 pm
102.. excellent point..
December 22nd, 2011 at 4:34 pm
No, but hoping for one means you are a true fan.
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We all hope for a win, Mr Holier Than Thou.
December 22nd, 2011 at 4:34 pm
I went on down to Kansas City, kickin azzez until both shoes were schitty
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LOL
December 22nd, 2011 at 4:35 pm
“not to jump around like a bunch of Kansas City fa99ots!”
December 22nd, 2011 at 4:41 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 22nd, 2011 at 4:34 pm
No, but hoping for one means you are a true fan.
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We all hope for a win, Mr Holier Than Thou.
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I don’t agree.
I think some people are gluttons for punishment.
I think you want the Raiders to win but look at them like a sh;tty stepson whose been in and out of prison and would only win out of dumb luck.
December 22nd, 2011 at 4:41 pm
What is a blowout?
24-10 Oaktown?
The Raiders will be on their game this week. Its a damn near lock. Already got my money on it…
Next week will be must see TV…they still got the 2 for 1’s??
December 22nd, 2011 at 4:48 pm
I don’t agree.
I think some people are gluttons for punishment.
I think you want the Raiders to win but look at them like a sh;tty stepson whose been in and out of prison and would only win out of dumb luck.
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I started going to Raider games at Frank Youell Field in 1964. Was at every game at the Coliseum since it opened in 66′ til they left 80′.
I don’t feel the need to posture for this blog.
December 22nd, 2011 at 4:49 pm
Gio Gonzalez traded to the Nationals for (surprise!) pitching prospects (who will promptly be traded for more pitching prospects as soon as they show any sign of capability at the major league level).
There are now officially four levels of minor league baseball, not counting rookie ball; Single A, Double A, Triple A, and the Oakland A’s.
And they wonder why they can’t draw flies.
December 22nd, 2011 at 4:51 pm
The A’s don’t seem to be too interested in batting.
December 22nd, 2011 at 4:54 pm
I started going to Raider games at Frank Youell Field in 1964. Was at every game at the Coliseum since it opened in 66′ til they left 80′.
I don’t feel the need to posture for this blog.
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*correction. Joined the Navy in 76′. Watched the 80 Super Bowl in the Philippines.
December 22nd, 2011 at 4:55 pm
usuals talking sense and ususals drowining away in there own misery..
Moving along,
did someone really compare big ben to playing as a symbol of mcfadden being soft as he has yet to return??? Ok ..lay of the cheery cola dawg…
We know he is not playing this game.. So we have bush and our young tyro t.jones, lets get him some screens dump offs, and let the kid run… We got a game braker here we just aint seen it yet..
Go raiders, kell can take that fat chick, hope remians…
December 22nd, 2011 at 4:57 pm
Good article on DHB, Hope he keeps striving to master his craft.
December 22nd, 2011 at 5:02 pm
dhb has a fantastic attitude, weather it stems from being labelled a bust or if its his real character we need more like him, now darren also has a good attitude, he aint ever whining or talking smack… I like d.moore an fords attitude too.. We have done a good job getting high charcter guys in…
December 22nd, 2011 at 5:05 pm
I’m out.
be good.
December 22nd, 2011 at 5:09 pm
Thanks for your service KK. Probably would have joined if I grew up back then too. Pops/uncles were all military…
December 22nd, 2011 at 5:18 pm
98.LA to TheBay Says:
December 22nd, 2011 at 4:30 pm
DKnight, they tried. Settled for what they could get.
Why would a legit DC want to come in and run Al’s D?
It’s like McDonalds hiring Bobby Flay to make McDoubles.
^^^^^^^
Yep. The other issuse is why let Marshall, if they damn well should have known no other DC would come here cause of the old man?
That’s not a committment to excellence.
December 22nd, 2011 at 5:21 pm
112.edward teach Says:
December 22nd, 2011 at 4:49 pm
Gio Gonzalez traded to the Nationals for (surprise!) pitching prospects (who will promptly be traded for more pitching prospects as soon as they show any sign of capability at the major league level).
There are now officially four levels of minor league baseball, not counting rookie ball; Single A, Double A, Triple A, and the Oakland A’s.
And they wonder why they can’t draw flies.
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I think with the trading of Cahill and Gio and not resigning Willingham, this confirms that Wolff and Beans are confidant, MLB will allow them to move to San Jose and get a new ballpark!
They said there offseason moves would dictate what happens with the ballpark decision.
If they get the okay to move to SJ, then they will trade players for top prospects and not resign expensive free agents.
If they didn’t get an answer or were not confidant they would be okay to go to SJ, they would not have traded both Cahill and Gio and perhaps would have resigned Hammer.
They want to prep to be good when the new ballpark opens.
December 22nd, 2011 at 5:22 pm
McFadden working hard to get back before season’s end
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The Doc, should have told D-Mac to sh!t in one hand, and wish in the other. Wait to see which one fills up first….
December 22nd, 2011 at 5:22 pm
Krappy, is this the time of day where u brag about traveling internationally, like its some kind of amazing achievement?
If so, please continue – I’m ready for a few chuckles!
December 22nd, 2011 at 5:24 pm
“We only had one target,” Bresnahan said. “At the end of the day, we failed because, when you allow somebody to have 200-plus yards in receiving yardage and making impact plays like he did, we obviously didn’t do a good enough job on defense.”
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Ya think?
December 22nd, 2011 at 5:26 pm
121. Agreed.
December 22nd, 2011 at 5:27 pm
115.Blackmamba_20 Says:
December 22nd, 2011 at 4:55 pm
usuals talking sense and ususals drowining away in there own misery..
Moving along,
did someone really compare big ben to playing as a symbol of mcfadden being soft as he has yet to return??? Ok ..lay of the cheery cola dawg…
We know he is not playing this game.. So we have bush and our young tyro t.jones, lets get him some screens dump offs, and let the kid run… We got a game braker here we just aint seen it yet..
Go raiders, kell can take that fat chick, hope remians…
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What about Marcel Reese?
Great on screens.
December 22nd, 2011 at 5:35 pm
So why did McFragile wait 7 weeks? He’s a wimp and should be traded for a bag of footballs. If he’s even worth that. I’m sure his jock has a pouch for his tampon
December 22nd, 2011 at 5:36 pm
Obviously…
December 22nd, 2011 at 5:38 pm
Kk..You being in the military explains a lot… my brother was in the marines. . He said that his superiors made it a point to wipe any smile off their face anytime they laughed or had a good time… and that sounds Just like you.. a bitter broken down old fool.. he hates to see anyone looking at a bright side or a good side of anything… I’m glad I don’t personally know the likes of anyone like you… you a$$hole!!
P.s. .. by the way… Merry Christmas! !
December 22nd, 2011 at 5:40 pm
The Dr. said he’d have to play with pain. There was no mention that there was any “risk” of worsening the injury by playing yet DMAC apologists are blasting any idea that he needs to sack up and get out there.
IMO he needs to do that. What’s with all this babying of the guy?
This is the NFL. Guys play injured all the time.
His presence alone could help as a diversion..or something.
What am I missing?
December 22nd, 2011 at 5:40 pm
ElkGRaider Says:
December 22nd, 2011 at 5:09 pm
Thanks for your service KK. Probably would have joined if I grew up back then too. Pops/uncles were all military…
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Loved it!
December 22nd, 2011 at 5:41 pm
Kell, is this you?
http://www.trouveztout.org/images/Village-People-In-The-Navy.jpg
December 22nd, 2011 at 5:42 pm
Ghostraider, you sound a lot more bitter and broken down than me.
December 22nd, 2011 at 5:42 pm
132.. Lmao!! Good one Chris!! ..I think it is him!!
December 22nd, 2011 at 5:43 pm
98 fcking yards when it mattered the most. 75 seconds to waltz 98 fcking yards.
December 22nd, 2011 at 5:44 pm
I am so glad (but sad) dear Al was not around to witness this travesty. If he were, heads woulda rolled.
December 22nd, 2011 at 5:44 pm
Kk.. no I’m not… I don’t have people sh!tting all over me son!! .. wake up man!!
December 22nd, 2011 at 5:45 pm
Chris In NY Says:
December 22nd, 2011 at 5:41 pm
Kell, is this you?
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Veeerrry Witty. Hahahaha Hohohohoho.
Yawn.
December 22nd, 2011 at 5:48 pm
Ghostraiders Says:
December 22nd, 2011 at 5:44 pm
Kk.. no I’m not… I don’t have people sh!tting all over me son!! .. wake up man!!
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You’re not very smart. You wouldn’t even notice.
December 22nd, 2011 at 5:53 pm
Krappy you still havent reported back yet about the big Holiday Boat Party.
Hope that’s not because KrappyWife got her Bowl Cut dunked in the punch bowl.
December 22nd, 2011 at 5:54 pm
Beecham. Get your own life, ok?
December 22nd, 2011 at 5:54 pm
Wish Al was around to give Hue a verbal working over…
In his prime those plane rides back from Mia and GB would have been a Hue Jackson Roast, hosted by Al D.
Hue wouldn’t be chucking it downfield on 4th down in FG range, and 3rd and 3 with the season on the line, that’s for sure…
December 22nd, 2011 at 5:59 pm
VanHeathen Says:
December 22nd, 2011 at 5:54 pm
Wish Al was around to give Hue a verbal working over…
In his prime those plane rides back from Mia and GB would have been a Hue Jackson Roast, hosted by Al D.
Hue wouldn’t be chucking it downfield on 4th down in FG range, and 3rd and 3 with the season on the line, that’s for sure…
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But Hue would still be saddled with Chuck Bresnahan.
December 22nd, 2011 at 6:00 pm
91. I think we know how to handle Orton. Least I hope so…
Warned against Orton and KC what with those excellent WRS.
The mans got people to throw to. Bowes and ALl PRo and that Baldwin kid is reaaaally good
December 22nd, 2011 at 6:02 pm
143. BS. I thought those were great calls Ballsy and Raider like.
Those plays were there to be had. Players didn’t execute.
I think Hue Jax has done a remarkable job.
December 22nd, 2011 at 6:04 pm
D Moore wide open in the endzone. Palmer’s gotta hit that.
December 22nd, 2011 at 6:06 pm
Krappy I’m prepared to offer u a chance to earn a respectable income as a shrimp cocktail servant aboard my VIP Reggae Part boat.
It’ll give u a sense of accomplishment instead of sponging off poor KrappyWife.
Pay starts at 85 cents an hour and youll need to provide your own white gloves
December 22nd, 2011 at 6:07 pm
It’s back, featuring the brave, the intelligent and the just plain crazy.
THE RAIDER PREDICTION BOARD
Dedicated to the legacy of Al Davis
Protected by the rally squirrel and Coliseum rodents
2011 Raider Games
First: Ghostraider (exact score) Raiders 23 Broncos 20
Second: Sullivan44 Buffalo 38 Raiders 35
Third: Pretty Rick Raiders 34 Jets 24
Fourth: Sullivan44 Patriots 31 Raiders 14
Fifth: Fingers Raiders 24 Browns 17
Sixth: Zymurge Chiefs 28 Raiders 0 (WTF)
Honorable Mention: LA for PAIN
Seventh: Noone…at all. Broncos 38 Raiders 24
Eighth: La Milicia Negra (exact score (sadly))
Ninth: TheToozFan55 (exact score) Raiders 24 Bolts 17
Tenth: TRIPLE TIE (Exact score) Raiders 27 Vikings 20
R8eray + Just Fire Baby + The Big Banana
Eleventh: Beware of Raiders Raiders 25 Bears 20
Twelfth: Autopalm77 Dolphins 34 Raiders 14
Thirteenth: Sullivan44 Packers 43 Raiders 16
Fourteenth: Raiderdav Detriot 28 Raiders 27
Chris in NY Raiders 20, Chiefs 13
ElkGRaider Oaktown 24 Chefs 10
fingers Raiders 33… Chefs 17…
ghostraiders Raiders 33 k.c.. 17
qodrn Raiders 27 Chiefs 24
Raiderjambo RAIDERS 35 chefs 10.
RaiderRetribution Raiders 31 – Kansas City 10
Silverandblack666 Raiders 13 Chiefs 10
December 22nd, 2011 at 6:07 pm
Beecham
Get a life.
December 22nd, 2011 at 6:08 pm
Re: A’s not being concerned about hitting:
nonsense, they resigned Adam Powell.
December 22nd, 2011 at 6:09 pm
Chris. .it doesn’t look like kk krappy has a sense of humor. .. whata surprise! !
December 22nd, 2011 at 6:12 pm
Krappy, is that a yes? If so I’ll expect u swabbing the anchor no later tha 4am Sat.
And I’ll need a copy of that Kane profile pic to put in our brochure. Our star studded clients like to know wholl b serving them tasty seafood while they party serious
December 22nd, 2011 at 6:14 pm
Beecham
Get a Life, little boy.
December 22nd, 2011 at 6:16 pm
152.. see what I mean.kk!! LOL…. I wonder why people love you so much!! LOL..
December 22nd, 2011 at 6:17 pm
Well Ghostraider, looks like you’ll be getting your tax-break afterall. Have you sent the Prez a x-mas card?
December 22nd, 2011 at 6:17 pm
Good evening Raider fans and others!
Qodrn- hope you’re feeling better
My beloved Raiders 28
Fat Red Aholes 20
amusing to see MR denying his sockpuppet identities again.. Last I saw was ABP saying he was not MR, as if we’d forgotten his admission of the same during the Great Favreian Retirement Meltdown.
December 22nd, 2011 at 6:19 pm
Others =krappy kk..lol
December 22nd, 2011 at 6:21 pm
Kk.. … actually I sent him that Christmas card I received from you and sully with the santa hats on being naughty. .LOL.
December 22nd, 2011 at 6:22 pm
Can’t please everybody.
Oh well.
December 22nd, 2011 at 6:26 pm
Fall from grace*
December 22nd, 2011 at 6:27 pm
LOL… these moderators are a joke…
December 22nd, 2011 at 6:33 pm
142.VanHeathen Says:
December 22nd, 2011 at 5:54 pm
Wish Al was around to give Hue a verbal working over…
In his prime those plane rides back from Mia and GB would have been a Hue Jackson Roast, hosted by Al D.
Hue wouldn’t be chucking it downfield on 4th down in FG range, and 3rd and 3 with the season on the line, that’s for sure…
^^^^^^
Hmm…I’m surprised the old vet Al Saunders didn’t speak up about the situation either?
December 22nd, 2011 at 6:34 pm
150.qodrn1 Says:
December 22nd, 2011 at 6:08 pm
Re: A’s not being concerned about hitting:
nonsense, they resigned Adam Powell.
^^^^^^^^
Even worse they kept Daric Barton around?!?
Ugh!
December 22nd, 2011 at 6:49 pm
The question that wasn’t answered about McFadden, is there a chance of further or permanent injury from playing on his foot the way it is today.
December 22nd, 2011 at 6:52 pm
Good teams figure it out. Houston lost Foster to start the year for several games, Schaub out for year, Johnson out for most of year, Williams out….figure it out.
If the Raiders whole world crumbles based on DMACs health…then there is little hope.
A proactive team is planning for the reality that DMAC is an injury proned player that will miss 4 to 8 games a year
December 22nd, 2011 at 6:55 pm
Raiders 16 Chiefs 13
December 22nd, 2011 at 7:00 pm
DMAC playing with a hurt foot makes no sense. If the guy could play he would. He doesn’t need encouragement from fans who probably never have played hurt doing much anything.
The running game is not why this team is losing games. Its losing games because of a shoddy defense and inconsistent offensive playcalling and play by key players.
December 22nd, 2011 at 7:00 pm
Well Taiwan Jones was injured too. But, I hear ya.
December 22nd, 2011 at 7:04 pm
SnB
How in the hell could anybody re-hire Chuck Bresnahan?
December 22nd, 2011 at 7:18 pm
Not even a nibble.
December 22nd, 2011 at 7:26 pm
Anyone see that roughing the passer call on Watts sack of Orlovsky? One of the worst moments in NFL history. Got to get rid of Goodell and get some changes with these rules.
This years playoffs and super bowl are gonna be majorly controversial, the first post-season with all these insane rules and inconsistent officiating, bound to cost teams.
Based on that alone, I expect therefore the Raiders to make the playoffs in order to be victimized.
December 22nd, 2011 at 7:36 pm
We are going at this all wrong. What we need to do is get TeBow out of comission. Can’t we organize someone to send him out on the road for God the next two weeks?
How about a suspension for unwanted evangelizing?
Something?
December 22nd, 2011 at 7:39 pm
what a waste of a roster spot dmc has been hslf of this year
December 22nd, 2011 at 7:42 pm
I am doing better except for all my skin falling off.
Had a good time Monday picking on Cork.
Pity they didn’t move the game over to the Coliseum though.
Can you imagine some uninformed person turning on the TV and seeing that?
December 22nd, 2011 at 7:43 pm
Also, the folks that sell the uniform tops with the names on them must hate the A’s. They let everyone go.
Maybe we can trade the A’s owners to Boston.
December 22nd, 2011 at 7:44 pm
lol…a 3-4 team texans switches to a 4-3 when they need it….
December 22nd, 2011 at 7:49 pm
no wonder colts only won 1 game to runs in two min drill?
December 22nd, 2011 at 7:52 pm
and thats why youre the dolts….
December 22nd, 2011 at 8:28 pm
-crickets-
December 22nd, 2011 at 8:31 pm
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/16553169/after-further-review-stellar-man-coverage-helps-chiefs-upset-packers
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Great takes by Prisco here. Not even Rogers the Great can overcome injuries to his top receiver and starting O-linemen. The supporting cast is EVERYTHING to NFL QBs. Always have been and always will be. Poor Jamarcus.
December 22nd, 2011 at 8:43 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
December 22nd, 2011 at 8:31 pm
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/16553169/after-further-review-stellar-man-coverage-helps-chiefs-upset-packers
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Great takes by Prisco here. Not even Rogers the Great can overcome injuries to his top receiver and starting O-linemen. The supporting cast is EVERYTHING to NFL QBs. Always have been and always will be. Poor Jamarcus.
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You’re right. If only Khalif Barnes was a better blocker … he could’ve pushed JaMarcus away from the cough syrup cabinet.
December 22nd, 2011 at 8:46 pm
Cushing is a monster.
December 22nd, 2011 at 8:47 pm
That USC linebacking corps of Cushing-Maualuga-Matthews has to be one of if not the greatest in college football history. Everyone knew they were off the charts at the time, but they’re proving it at the next level as well.
December 22nd, 2011 at 8:48 pm
Boise State getting snubbed from a BCS Bowl Game is a joke. Chris Peterson might be the best football coach in the country at any level.
December 22nd, 2011 at 8:48 pm
I hope they score 70 to prove a point.
December 22nd, 2011 at 8:52 pm
181.Chris in NY Says:
December 22nd, 2011 at 8:43 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
December 22nd, 2011 at 8:31 pm
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/16553169/after-further-review-stellar-man-coverage-helps-chiefs-upset-packers
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Great takes by Prisco here. Not even Rogers the Great can overcome injuries to his top receiver and starting O-linemen. The supporting cast is EVERYTHING to NFL QBs. Always have been and always will be. Poor Jamarcus.
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You’re right. If only Khalif Barnes was a better blocker … he could’ve pushed JaMarcus away from the cough syrup cabinet.
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I doubt it. JR would have pancaked him just like Calvin Pace did in 2009 against the Jets, leading to a sack fumble. That team was worse than the Bed and Breakfast team from 2006 by a mile! Poor JR.
December 22nd, 2011 at 8:53 pm
off the charts at the time, but they’re proving it at the next level as well.
184.Chris in NY Says:
December 22nd, 2011 at 8:48 pm
Boise State getting snubbed from a BCS Bowl Game is a joke. Chris Peterson might be the best football coach in the country at any level.
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Chill out dude, it’s ASU. You know, the team that fired it’s head coach? LSU would beat these guys by 70.
December 22nd, 2011 at 8:56 pm
“its”
December 22nd, 2011 at 9:00 pm
No way. Boise State dominated Georgia in Georgia to start the season. They’re 2-0 in BCS Bowl Games.
Beat Oklahoma, Oregon (twice), Georgia, Va Tech in recent years. I think they’re something like 8-1 vs. BCS conference schools in the last five years after tonight.
December 22nd, 2011 at 9:02 pm
No way was the 2009 team worse than the Art Shell Part II year. That team was every bit as bad as the 0-16 Lions team. Worst football I’ve ever seen. How we won two that year should be featured on Unsolved Mysteries.
December 22nd, 2011 at 9:04 pm
They’re also two FGs away from being undefeated back-to-back seasons.
December 22nd, 2011 at 9:09 pm
190.Chris in NY Says:
December 22nd, 2011 at 9:02 pm
No way was the 2009 team worse than the Art Shell Part II year. That team was every bit as bad as the 0-16 Lions team. Worst football I’ve ever seen. How we won two that year should be featured on Unsolved Mysteries.
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Two straight at that! But I liked the talent better. Similar OLs after the injuries to Gallery and Cornell Green. Neither team ran the ball all that well. But you can’t even compare the receivers! DHB and Murphy as rookies = a tough day for any QB in history! JR would have loved Randy Moss. 2006 defense was better too. Nnamdi gained his rep that year.
December 22nd, 2011 at 9:16 pm
190.Chris in NY Says:
December 22nd, 2011 at 9:02 pm
No way was the 2009 team worse than the Art Shell Part II year. That team was every bit as bad as the 0-16 Lions team. Worst football I’ve ever seen. How we won two that year should be featured on Unsolved Mysteries.
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Hate arguments like this. So what if they beat Georgia early in the year. They’ve got to prove it over the course of a season against top competition. I doubt there’s a team in history that has had to travel the road LSU did this year. Boise gears up for an early non-conference game and goes on auto pilot through a schitty conference schedule. Meanwhile, teams like OU and Georgia survive the meat grinder schedules of the Big 12 and SEC (including championship games) then face this upstart team in a no-win situation. BCS got it right leaving them out this year. K-State is the one with the beef.
December 22nd, 2011 at 9:20 pm
steroid cushing?
December 22nd, 2011 at 9:23 pm
and the steroid texans lose to the dolts!!!
December 22nd, 2011 at 9:41 pm
162.DKnight007 Says:
December 22nd, 2011 at 6:33 pm
142.VanHeathen Says:
December 22nd, 2011 at 5:54 pm
Wish Al was around to give Hue a verbal working over…
In his prime those plane rides back from Mia and GB would have been a Hue Jackson Roast, hosted by Al D.
Hue wouldn’t be chucking it downfield on 4th down in FG range, and 3rd and 3 with the season on the line, that’s for sure…
^^^^^^
Hmm…I’m surprised the old vet Al Saunders didn’t speak up about the situation either?
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Not so fast. Al Saunders did speak to it. Read the last paragraph in this post.
Here it is:
Offensive coordinator Al Saunders said the Raiders need to rely upon Bush more than they have the past two games.
“Our back has been tagged a little bit as the one to stop going into the games,” Saunders said. “He’s done a terrific job for us. We have to be more of a balanced attack. When we’re passing and running with efficiency, your running game becomes that much better.”
December 22nd, 2011 at 9:45 pm
That Texans loss is not good for us. Don’t know if it really matters, but if we work our way into a 9-7 logjam for the wild card it could very likely come down to the strength of victory tiebreaker. Need teams we beat to keep winning.
December 22nd, 2011 at 10:23 pm
It doesn’t make me feel better but Houston (those of the # 3 D in the leauge) just lost on a last minute drive with the opponent having no timeouts and having to score a TD to win. That team was a 1-13 team being QB’d by a lad named Dan “freaking” Orlovsky.
Only difference is, Houston had nothing to play for, but same deal..the long pass down the middle that should never have happened.
Also, their D coordinator (W.Phillips) was not there tonight.
December 22nd, 2011 at 10:24 pm
I hope Orlovsky doesn’t mind his nickname being “freaking”.
December 22nd, 2011 at 10:29 pm
The Raiders were #2 in the league in sacks last year and are tied for 4th this year but it sure doesn’t seem like it.
For as many sacks as the Raiders get you never see them punishing the QB, or see that BIG blindside hit that one might attribute to a “sack” team.
December 22nd, 2011 at 10:30 pm
On a positive note, the Raiders STILL have that last chance to redeem themselves.
I feel strongly that Denver will lose to KC.
If THAT happens then all the Raiders have to do is beat KC and SD.
December 22nd, 2011 at 10:36 pm
# DKnight007 Says:
December 22nd, 2011 at 5:21 pm
112.edward teach Says:
December 22nd, 2011 at 4:49 pm
Gio Gonzalez traded to the Nationals for (surprise!) pitching prospects (who will promptly be traded for more pitching prospects as soon as they show any sign of capability at the major league level).
There are now officially four levels of minor league baseball, not counting rookie ball; Single A, Double A, Triple A, and the Oakland A’s.
And they wonder why they can’t draw flies.
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I think with the trading of Cahill and Gio and not resigning Willingham, this confirms that Wolff and Beans are confidant, MLB will allow them to move to San Jose and get a new ballpark!
They said there offseason moves would dictate what happens with the ballpark decision.
If they get the okay to move to SJ, then they will trade players for top prospects and not resign expensive free agents.
If they didn’t get an answer or were not confidant they would be okay to go to SJ, they would not have traded both Cahill and Gio and perhaps would have resigned Hammer.
They want to prep to be good when the new ballpark opens.
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Once again, Wolff has decided to punish Oakland A’s fans for his own idiocy. He has traded what few real major leaguers he has for more minor leaguers, errr, sorry pro “prospects”. He has no assurances that he can ever move the team or build a park, and the SF Giants know they can tie him up in court for a decade if he tries. Meanwhile the SF Giants become more and more relevant to both fans and history while Wolff continues to fiddle with himself while the franchise burns. Right now he has two options: a) just move the team without any approval and somehow hope it all works out or more likely b) sell the team and take the $100mm beatdown. Sucks to be you Fisher. You trusted that moron Wolff.
December 22nd, 2011 at 10:51 pm
Kansas Shi**y has been playing well. Orton spreads the rock, the running game is surprisingly spry, and they have found a pass rush. The team played hard for Crennell after tuning out Haley. They are playing with a lot of confidence. So, with our collective futures on the line here, what do we do?
lst off, make Hali play his position. I would be running right at him, with both a pulling guard and Tonga to one/two him. A few of those will calm him the fook down. You have to throw on lst down. Hear that Hue, throw on lst down. Lastly, without Berry the Cheat safeties are vulnerable. Going deep in the middle of the field will create more run opportunities. Throwing medium routes on the seams or deep routes on the seams will back those safeties off which we will need to be successful.
December 22nd, 2011 at 11:04 pm
MCfadden not playing Breaking news!
From McFumbles to McFragile, this just solidfies the need to re-sign Bush. I might not mind seeing Mcfadden’s explosiveness on another team because I know that its just a matter of time.
-Raiders the most snake-bit organization
-Singeltary or other disciplinarian for D coord
-Madden or Flores, or other legacy for GM
December 22nd, 2011 at 11:15 pm
oh well if the A’s move at least they can fix up the colesium. The home side fifty yard-line seats are like two hundred feet from the sideline
December 22nd, 2011 at 11:22 pm
Hopefully Palmer plays light-out to redeem his last performance against the Chiefs…should be like night and day
December 22nd, 2011 at 11:26 pm
raidertalk,
can we get a decent jumbo tron too? Thing is pathetic.
December 22nd, 2011 at 11:38 pm
sully is back….lol
December 22nd, 2011 at 11:44 pm
tarfur says dmc is shooting for sd game to come back…what for if they dont win next week…..might as well take taiwan for a test drive…
December 22nd, 2011 at 11:49 pm
“It doesn’t make me feel better but Houston (those of the # 3 D in the leauge) just lost on a last minute drive with the opponent having no timeouts and having to score a TD to win. That team was a 1-13 team being QB’d by a lad named Dan “freaking” Orlovsky.”
Yes, the Texans allowed a pass, but they had to fight the refs too. It’s a shame that NFL reffing has become like that in the NBA.
On one call for a personal foul, the Houston pass rusher was clearly tackling the qb in the middle of his body. It wasn’t his fault that the Colt qb lowered his own head and hit the helmet of the defender, yet the defender was hit with the foul.
You can’t have a league in which you call fouls like that. It is humanly impossible to even try to tackle anyone if that kind of foul is called. If they don’t make some changes in the rules this winter, the situation will get worse and I foresee a day in which “defense” is an obsolete term.
December 22nd, 2011 at 11:52 pm
those are the same refs that flagged the raiders def all the way down the field…made huesux complain….
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:10 am
How are Taiwan Jones catching skills? If good, I’d like to see him moved to Slot WR permanently.He can be our wes welker. He’s a liability in the backfield unless he’s carrying the ball. He’s worse than MBush when it comes to pass protection blocking. MBush is as bad as it gets when it come to blocking. I don’t know whether it’s he won’t or can’t block. either way it is unacceptable.
Let’s put Taiwan Jones where he can do most damage. Get him the ball in the open across the middle of the field and it’s a home run more often than not.
I understand that 25% of active players will be UFA next year. Should be a big feeding fest. Most of our UFA hit these last 2 years.
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:22 am
raiders 24
chiefs 17
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:24 am
# Seymour Bush Says:
December 22nd, 2011 at 10:36 pm
# DKnight007 Says:
December 22nd, 2011 at 5:21 pm
112.edward teach Says:
December 22nd, 2011 at 4:49 pm
Gio Gonzalez traded to the Nationals for (surprise!) pitching prospects (who will promptly be traded for more pitching prospects as soon as they show any sign of capability at the major league level).
There are now officially four levels of minor league baseball, not counting rookie ball; Single A, Double A, Triple A, and the Oakland A’s.
And they wonder why they can’t draw flies.
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I think with the trading of Cahill and Gio and not resigning Willingham, this confirms that Wolff and Beans are confidant, MLB will allow them to move to San Jose and get a new ballpark!
They said there offseason moves would dictate what happens with the ballpark decision.
If they get the okay to move to SJ, then they will trade players for top prospects and not resign expensive free agents.
If they didn’t get an answer or were not confidant they would be okay to go to SJ, they would not have traded both Cahill and Gio and perhaps would have resigned Hammer.
They want to prep to be good when the new ballpark opens.
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Once again, Wolff has decided to punish Oakland A’s fans for his own idiocy. He has traded what few real major leaguers he has for more minor leaguers, errr, sorry pro “prospects”. He has no assurances that he can ever move the team or build a park, and the SF Giants know they can tie him up in court for a decade if he tries. Meanwhile the SF Giants become more and more relevant to both fans and history while Wolff continues to fiddle with himself while the franchise burns. Right now he has two options: a) just move the team without any approval and somehow hope it all works out or more likely b) sell the team and take the $100mm beatdown. Sucks to be you Fisher. You trusted that moron Wolff.
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Sorry, but the Giants and their phony front Stand For San Jose don’t have much leverage as they think they do.
One of the most powerful owners in baseball Jerry Reinsforf practically admitted that SJ is where the A’s should be for the benefit of franchise AND the benefit of MLB.
If the owners want the A’s to be in a better business situation for the future, they will vote to allow the A’s to move to SJ and the poor little crying greedy Giants can do nothing. Once the owners allow the move, the Giants have nothing when it comes to wasting tax payers money by going to court?
haha
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:40 am
The Giants have zero chance of blocking the A’s move to SJ, is the owners vote on it and give the okay and rescind the Giants ridiculous weak territorial rights issue that the Haas family allowed them to have, so they can try and build a ballpark in SJ before the Giants considered moving to Tampa Bay. Do we all remember that fiasco? The SF Giants and their fans are a bunch ungrateful, selfish, greedy p ri cks!
http://www.fieldofschemes.com/news/archives/2011/12/4748_reinsdorf_backs.html
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:47 am
Please don’t move my A’s anywhere near Santa Clara. That would just be bad (not to mention all the fans there support the Giants).
Wolf is an idiot.
Let’s send the ghost of Al to him. That’s snap him out of it.
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:50 am
post 126 agreed ,reese can knock out some yards .why he doesnt get more calls is mind boggling
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:55 am
Gotta win the next 2 and then anything is possible, even if Dungver and/ or NY bottle rockets split their last 2. Go Raiders win out and just maybe we make it in! Being an Arkansas Boy, I sure hope we get DMC back, that would help but at this point I don’t feel to good about that.
Go Raiders!
Beat the Chefs!
Beat the Chokers!
Let The Chips Fall where they may and hope for the best!
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:27 am
Please I bag you Raider players…Win for your fans..This has been a season that they have proven to you that we care…the games have been sold out…Please give your fans the best xmas gift and beat the Chiefs…Mcfadden take a pain shot and get on the field…Thank you….
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:37 am
The craziest thing about this year, and potentially why Hue might be worthy of a another year, is that DESPITE all the injuries our offense had put us in the position to win some games…
If our D hasn’t been mind boggeling bad we still might have won about three more games atleast
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:41 am
Raiders we must not be swept by Kansas City
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:47 am
on 1st downs this year marcel has rushed 10 times for 85 yards avg 8.5 ,rec he has 11 for 180 yards avg 16.4
long of 47 13.3 yac for 7 1st downs with 1 td
on 2nd down rushes he has 5 26 yards 5.2 per carry
rec 9 for 67 yards 7.4 avg long of 40 4.4 yac for 3 1st downs 1 td with 1 fum lost
3rd down 0 carries rec 4 for 16 yards avg 4 with a long of 12 8.8 yac 1st down
i hate to beat a dead horse but sometimes stats do tell a story,and this one says hue whattup 0 carries on 3rd down the guy is 6 foot 3 240lbs come on man
December 23rd, 2011 at 2:00 am
in my opinion those numbers are outstanding for as little amount of carries and few rec
i say this with out researching to back it up but dmac numbers by comparison may not be as good ,the reason i say this is he will get 1 yard then 3 yards then 2 yards and then bust out 10 or 20 .give marcel more plays while dmac is hurt and bush is (sore ,tired )instead of grinding bush into the dirt
December 23rd, 2011 at 2:05 am
To win these last 2 Hue’s gonna have to pull out all the stops; Screens/wr routes to marcel, bubble screens to denarius, hammering with bush & cartwright in releif and Palmer with the eye of the tiger, no early turnovers…
December 23rd, 2011 at 2:08 am
KC’s stength is their secondary, if we can get an early lead then we can run it down their throats and play to their weaknesses…
if they get an early lead on us Palmer’s gonna have to be PINPOINT
December 23rd, 2011 at 2:22 am
i dont know why but it seems like hue doesnt trust many of his offensive players hes got some favorites and others he just doesnt use ,and the defense his play calling says he thinks the defense are going to give up a score every series ,wait they do
December 23rd, 2011 at 2:35 am
All the people who hate on Mcclain; It was not his fault he was out there gaurding Calvin Johnson of all people; Come on even Urlacher or Ray lewis Could not gaurd that guy. HOW in the world is Oakland’s best corner on Megatron? Brez should be fired just for that.
I am sure a Defensive coach like Singeltary could do wonders for this D and McClain in particular. The more and more I see this D, the more I see a Disciplinarian coach working
December 23rd, 2011 at 2:44 am
yep any change would be ok with me ,normally its if it aint broke dont fix it .but everyone knows it is broke so the question is how soon will the repair start .needs to be now cause i dont see any reason to think all of the sudden something will click and they will start to improve they just keep getting worse
December 23rd, 2011 at 2:50 am
I do think we need change on D but to think we have the personnel to run a 3-4, we just do not have it right now and we do not have draft to build an entirely new schemed D. The 3-4, 4-3 is all subterfuge by Hue to hide the horrendous inexcusable D play of late
December 23rd, 2011 at 2:50 am
i would think its not just one person that can ruin a team ,but 1 person can turn things around like before seymore they were real bad ,he made them better instantly but not that much better ,but he did turn them in the right direction
December 23rd, 2011 at 3:05 am
Oakland As will see sfb in VEGAS,imo
December 23rd, 2011 at 3:11 am
HaHa 231,jfb in VEGAS,one jack&coke over the limit
December 23rd, 2011 at 3:12 am
233,I DUNNO,OUT
December 23rd, 2011 at 3:17 am
Seymore, He helped but he is not putting together the probowl year that we needed to be successful and at times he seems to lose it not caring about the game. IF we can get more D help next year he might be cut or reduced to a third down/goaline player.
December 23rd, 2011 at 3:33 am
234 agreed ,but it was a good move at the time ,but his time may be coming to an end
December 23rd, 2011 at 4:32 am
Merry Christmas!
xoxoxo
Your loyal friend,
Sir Albert Bigelow Paine
December 23rd, 2011 at 4:54 am
Good Morning and ” Merry Christmas ” Raiders…..
Beat the Chefs……
Raiders 33…… Chefs 17……
Must win..
December 23rd, 2011 at 5:04 am
Technically the Cheifs are in the hunt for the division…Lets start by eliminating them from contention! Raiders 17, Cheifs 0
December 23rd, 2011 at 5:06 am
Mid to upper 40’s and sunny in KC on Saturday……weather shouldnt be a issue….
Keep the penalties down…cause they killed us last time we played the Chefs..
Run Bush, he’s usually pretty good aginst the Chefs…No turnovers …
Defense needs to pressure Orton , he will throw picks…
Don’t play The Kc recievers so soft…Dont let them have any momentum …
Ruin Christmas for the Chefs and their fans….. Better them than us…
December 23rd, 2011 at 5:41 am
Great news!
Chargers’ late surge may save the jobs of A.J. Smith and Norv Turner
Pro Football Talk
Posted by Michael David Smith on December 23, 2011, 6:31 AM EST
Three weeks ago, reports out of San Diego said Chargers owner Dean Spanos was almost certain to fire both General Manager A.J. Smith and coach Norv Turner. But a lot has changed in three weeks.
The Chargers haven’t just won their last three games, they’ve blown out all three opponents and suddenly looked like one of the best teams in football. And all of a sudden the reports out of San Diego are saying that Spanos is having a change of heart.
Kevin Acee of the San Diego Union-Tribune writes that Spanos has been heartened by the fact that the roster Smith has put together is talented enough to be playing great football late in a tough season, and that the team clearly hasn’t tuned Turner out. And that may be enough for Spanos to give the coach and the G.M. another year.
Spanos was also worried that Chargers fans had given up on the team, but he now believes that the fan base is excited about a late-season surge that has the Chargers in playoff contention.
If the Chargers’ late-season surge continues at Detroit on Sunday and then in the season finale against the Raiders, they can finish 9-7 and — if they get some help — make the playoffs. That sounded farfetched three weeks ago, but it now looks entirely possible. And if that’s what happens, Smith and Turner are likely to return in 2012.
December 23rd, 2011 at 6:23 am
Good morning, Nation. Wow, the Texans problems finally caught up with them. I guess we can’t expect them to help out by beating Tennessee next week. It’s beginning to look like the only path to the playoffs will be winning the division.
Getting grim. Normally, we would have the draft to look forward to, but sh!t . . .
December 23rd, 2011 at 6:34 am
F.A.O. Qodrn1…….Hope you’re feeling better.
Team with 53 injured players and a rookie head coach – 34.
Team watched by Cletus Spuckler and all his kids Tiffany, Heather, Cody, Dylan, Dermot, Jordan, Taylor, Brittany, Wesley, Rumor, Scout, Cassidy, Zoe, Chloe, Max, Hunter, Kendall, Caitlin, Noah, Sasha, Morgan, Kyra, Ian, Lauren, Q*bert and Phil -
27.
December 23rd, 2011 at 6:38 am
Wait a minute.Got the names wrong.
December 23rd, 2011 at 6:39 am
Titans will lose again, as will the Bengals and Jets.
Wildcard is the easier path, IMO.
I can see the Jets losing to the Giants, the Bengals to the Ravens and the Titans to the Texas more easily than the Donkeys losing at home to the Chiefs.
Especially once we eliminate the Chiefs this weekend. Hell, they may start Ricky Stanzi if they have nothing to play for.
December 23rd, 2011 at 6:40 am
F.A.O. Qodrn1…….Hope you’re feeling better.
Team with 53 injured players and a rookie head coach – 34.
Team watched by Cletus Spuckler and all his kids
Gummy Sue, Tiffany, Andie, Gordon, Lizzie, Jackson, Heather, Cody, Dylan, Dermot, Kevin, Jacob, Jordan, Joe, Taylor, Brittany, Wesley, Rumor, Scout, Cassidy, Zoe, Chloe, Max, Hunter, Rubella Scabies, Kendall, Caitlin, Noah, Sasha, Morgan, Kyra, Ian, Lauren, Q*bert, Condoleezza Marie, Phil, Birthday, Crystal Meth, Dubya, Incest, International Harvester, Jitney, Witney, Mary and Stabbed in Jail –
27.
December 23rd, 2011 at 6:41 am
How about those bogus personal foul calls yesterday?
That was the same officiating crew as the game we played in Minny when conspiracy theories were flying.
Not sure why people blame the refs though. They didn’t change the rules or ask the league if they could make these highly subjective calls in a seconds notice.
The league is mandating they make these type of calls, and the refs are in over their head trying to make them, and it seems the league would rather than throw the flag if it is close.
December 23rd, 2011 at 6:41 am
Much better.
December 23rd, 2011 at 6:42 am
2 tough division games left but it’s now or never
RAIDERS 23
queefs 13
CODE BLACK !!
December 23rd, 2011 at 6:46 am
Raiders asking ’bout Suh taking his helmet off after blocking the kick.
December 23rd, 2011 at 6:49 am
I think AZ can beat the Bengals this week, and the Jets will lose as well.
If we win in KC, I believe we may hold our own destiny week 17.
December 23rd, 2011 at 6:54 am
I can see the Jets losing to the Giants, the Bengals to the Ravens and the Titans to the Texas more easily than the Donkeys losing at home to the Chiefs.
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Not so sure about the Texans man. They should have dominated the Colts, but the injuries are catching up to them (huh, sound familiar? So injuries DO matter, who woulda thunk it)
December 23rd, 2011 at 6:55 am
249.neilb Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 6:46 am
Raiders asking ’bout Suh taking his helmet off after blocking the kick.
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They were told the whistle had blown and the game was over. He was free to take his helmet off. No penalty.
December 23rd, 2011 at 6:55 am
OAKLAND VS KANSAS CITY ON XMAS EVE WITH POST-SEASON IMPLICATIONS..THE MORE THINGS CHANGE,THE MORE THINGS STAY THE SAME..AFL-2011 STYLE..
December 23rd, 2011 at 6:58 am
That was the same officiating crew as the game we played in Minny when conspiracy theories were flying.
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Hue didn’t complain about the flags as much as the fact that they weren’t flying both ways, AND that the refs wouldn’t talk to him about them during the game like they would for Minny.
The refs this season were told when in doubt whip it out (the flag that is). That is just stupid, and it is ruining games.
December 23rd, 2011 at 6:58 am
Bcz24….
Yeah,so they say.At what point is the game over.Where the players still on the field?
If,with 1 second on the clock,the
December 23rd, 2011 at 7:02 am
255.neilb Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 6:58 am
Bcz24….
Yeah,so they say.At what point is the game over.Where the players still on the field?
If,with 1 second on the clock,the
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I think they meant the whistle had blown signifying the clock had expired. Same reason they don’t throw a flag when the whole team rushes on the field to celebrate.
December 23rd, 2011 at 7:05 am
Not so sure about the Texans man.
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I think the Titans are awful, and they just lost to the Colts, very non-competively.
I said a few weeks ago, the Titans will finish no better than 8-8 and I am sticking by that.
December 23rd, 2011 at 7:15 am
havent been on the blog in a few weeks. last time i was here, the posts were of a genuine playoff contending team. now the posts and comments are very similar to those of the Raiders we’ve known and loved for the last 8 years.
December 23rd, 2011 at 7:20 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
I think the Titans are awful, and they just lost to the Colts, very non-competively.
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The Texans just lost to the Colts too. Maybe you missed that? LOL
My money says the Titans beat Jax this week. If you think the Titans are awful, let me introduce you to the Jaguars: 4th lowest scoring team in the NFL.
So week 17, the Raiders playoff chances may hinge on a game featuring the only two teams to have lost to the Colts this season. Un-fkn-believable.
December 23rd, 2011 at 7:24 am
Bcz24 Says:
They were told the whistle had blown and the game was over. He was free to take his helmet off. No penalty.
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Wouldn’t the penalty be assessed after change of possession anyway?
December 23rd, 2011 at 7:27 am
The Texans just lost to the Colts too. Maybe you missed that? LOL
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Uh no, I didn’t, but that game was a lot more competitive than the Titans game.
I think the Texans losing is great, in the event we bag the #6 seed, I would rather play the Texans as the #3 seed, than the Steelers/Ravens.
December 23rd, 2011 at 7:28 am
Using the ESPN playoff machine thingy, looks like we are sitting pretty good in the tiebreaker category for the Wild Card.
Just need a Bengals and Jets loss this weekend.
December 23rd, 2011 at 7:31 am
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December 23rd, 2011 at 7:31 am
If the Bengals, Titans and Jets lose and we win this weekend, I am about 97% sure we would control our own destiny week 17.
December 23rd, 2011 at 7:32 am
Wouldn’t the penalty be assessed after change of possession anyway?
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No because, they ruled he took his helmet off after the game was over, like I said, it is no different then when the whole team runs on the field to celebrate.
December 23rd, 2011 at 7:34 am
JFB,I’M 3% SURE I’M HUNGRY,WHATS 4 BREAKFAST ?
December 23rd, 2011 at 7:35 am
BACK!! THIS MOFO FREAKING SITE IS DOING MY HEAD IN.
While I still can…..
A very merry Christmas to the raider nation,and to Steve and Jerry.
December 23rd, 2011 at 7:36 am
WHATS 4 BREAKFAST ?
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Eggs with green chiles and hash browns.
December 23rd, 2011 at 7:37 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 7:36 am
WHATS 4 BREAKFAST ?
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Eggs with green chiles and hash browns.
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Somebody been hangin out in Nuevo Mexico a little too long.
Bacon egg and grits baby!
December 23rd, 2011 at 7:39 am
THROW IN A BLOODY MARY,SOUNDS GOOD.NEILB,HAPPY HOLIDAYS 2 YOU & YOURS,AND ALL ON YOUR SIDE OF THE POND !!
December 23rd, 2011 at 7:40 am
Somebody been hangin out in Nuevo Mexico a little too long.
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We put green chiles on everything.
Burgers, pizza’s, turkey sandwiches (Albquerque-Turkey is on hit), you name it.
Probably the biggest benefit of living in New Mexico, lol.
December 23rd, 2011 at 7:42 am
Green Chiles taste pretty good on everything, so it is understandable.
December 23rd, 2011 at 7:44 am
Man I’m working on 3 hours sleep in last 48 hours, spracked off espresso, putting 4 hours today, callin it and going to craaaaaaash like a MF.
December 23rd, 2011 at 7:45 am
You haven’t had breakfast until you’ve been to Wecks here in the 505, and got the carnitas over a bed of eggs, hash browns, with tons of cheese and chile’s.
December 23rd, 2011 at 7:46 am
274.Just Fire Baby Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 7:45 am
You haven’t had breakfast until you’ve been to Wecks here in the 505, and got the carnitas over a bed of eggs, hash browns, with tons of cheese and chile’s.
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Sounds awesome.
December 23rd, 2011 at 7:47 am
OK U GUY’S,THATS ENOUGH..MY DIET WILL GO OUT THE WINDOW WITH TALK LIKE THIS..
December 23rd, 2011 at 7:47 am
Amazing that after the debacle of the last 3 weeks, if we can string together a decent game (we don’t need to be great to beat the Chiefs, just pretty good) tomorrow, we will be right in the thick of things week 17, just as we all planned and hoped for.
We have gotten a lot of breaks with other teams losing.
December 23rd, 2011 at 7:56 am
Dam food talk? LOL…
Anyways…Good Morning Nation!!!
December 23rd, 2011 at 7:57 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 7:47 am
Amazing that after the debacle of the last 3 weeks, if we can string together a decent game (we don’t need to be great to beat the Chiefs, just pretty good) tomorrow, we will be right in the thick of things week 17, just as we all planned and hoped for.
We have gotten a lot of breaks with other teams losing.
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Yeah, after the last 3 weeks to be in a position to get to the dance is incredible.
Fortunate SD fell off and Chiefs got banged up early.
December 23rd, 2011 at 7:57 am
hwnrdr Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 7:56 am
Dam food talk? LOL…
Anyways…Good Morning Nation!!!
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Jinxed it.
Politics in
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December 23rd, 2011 at 8:01 am
A VOTE FOR ME IS A VOTE FOR ME.SO PLEASE VOTE FOR ME….
December 23rd, 2011 at 8:03 am
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 8:01 am
A VOTE FOR ME IS A VOTE FOR ME.SO PLEASE VOTE FOR ME….
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A friend with weed is a friend in deed.
December 23rd, 2011 at 8:09 am
282.LA to TheBay Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 8:03 am
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 8:01 am
A VOTE FOR ME IS A VOTE FOR ME.SO PLEASE VOTE FOR ME….
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A friend with weed is a friend in deed.
LOL, funny thing about that…i don’t carry any of that stuff on me, and that’s because I no longer do that stuff…but, I tell ya, it’s always around my tailgates! LOL
December 23rd, 2011 at 8:15 am
LOL, funny thing about that…i don’t carry any of that stuff on me, and that’s because I no longer do that stuff…but, I tell ya, it’s always around my tailgates! LOL
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I’ve given up a lot of habits but that’s one that still tough to kick.
I think you have to WANT to quit something for it to work, LOL.
3 years no tobacco in about a week. Cold Turkey = Gangsta.
December 23rd, 2011 at 8:19 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
Using the ESPN playoff machine thingy, looks like we are sitting pretty good in the tiebreaker category for the Wild Card.
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The funny thing about that is that if the Raiders and Titans both win out, the Raiders may actually need the Jets to beat Miami in week 17 (after losing to the Giants in week 16).
The reason is Strength of Victory. That will be the tiebreaker between Oakland and Tennessee. Jets will be a weaker win for the the Raiders at 8-8.
December 23rd, 2011 at 8:23 am
Bcz24 Says:
No because, they ruled he took his helmet off after the game was over, like I said, it is no different then when the whole team runs on the field to celebrate.
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That’s not what I’m saying, though. What I mean is if he had even taken it off before the game expired, but after the FG had already been missed, it still wouldn’t have helped the Raiders. The penalty would be assessed after change of possession.
December 23rd, 2011 at 8:28 am
Jezus I thought I moved to New Mexico not New Brunswick.
This is like our 4th snowstorm in about 2 weeks.
My travel schedule and Hyundai are not built for this!!!!
December 23rd, 2011 at 8:29 am
The other “reality” is that we could still finish in DEAD LAST PLACE in the AFC West.
What a drop that would be from where Raiders were.
That would mean we lost the last 5 games of the season.
Hue would really look like a fool for the Palmer deal. Not to me, but the media would exploit that.
December 23rd, 2011 at 8:31 am
Anything positive to talk about?
I can’t think of anything.
Lakers suck. Raiders crumbled. Cubs blow. ND is screwed. LA Kings, heck, does the NHL even exist anymore?
Santa, I want a serious 2 game win streak from the Raiders and a Dwight Howard trade for my Lakers and a Prince signing for my Cubs for Christmas.
Thanx,
Dakota.
December 23rd, 2011 at 8:33 am
So, Luck could now end up in Minny or St.Louis instead of Indy?
Way to go Colts lol.
December 23rd, 2011 at 8:33 am
Last year in KC, Rolando played a great game and may have been the best player on the field that day.
I am expecting the same in about 27 hours.
December 23rd, 2011 at 8:35 am
If I am the Minny owner I am ordering my coaches to tank the rest of the season to get Luck. I would give them each a one year contract extension for security and tell them if we come close to winning one of the last two games they will be doing team laundry for the rest of their contracts.
December 23rd, 2011 at 8:35 am
Andrew Luck is overrated.
If I were the Colts and had the #1 pick (they still may get it), I would trade the pick and try to trade Peyton.
Load up on a zillion draft picks, get Landry Jones or RGIII later in the draft, and watch as Luck flops around on a crappy team.
December 23rd, 2011 at 8:37 am
Palmer is more than adequate QB to lead Raiders wherever they need to go.
It’s that darn defense that really holds us back.
Bresnahen defends the choice to put the MLB underneath on megatron as a scheme he’s ok with.
Under normal circumstances it might be. Problem is that the MLB in ? is McClain.
Seems he’s coaching more to scheme than to who the players are running it.
You need to adjust to who you have.
McClain on megatron? Really?
December 23rd, 2011 at 8:39 am
286.RaidingTexas Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 8:23 am
Bcz24 Says:
No because, they ruled he took his helmet off after the game was over, like I said, it is no different then when the whole team runs on the field to celebrate.
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That’s not what I’m saying, though. What I mean is if he had even taken it off before the game expired, but after the FG had already been missed, it still wouldn’t have helped the Raiders. The penalty would be assessed after change of possession.
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Sorry gotcha. You are correct also
December 23rd, 2011 at 8:39 am
Coaches have to expect their players to make plays, but if Chucky B doesn’t know by week 15 that McClain is a worthless POS then he is a damned fool and should be cleaning toilets somewhere instead of destroying an NFL defense.
December 23rd, 2011 at 8:40 am
Colts still (currently) have the #1 pick.
December 23rd, 2011 at 8:40 am
Dakota Says:
Anything positive to talk about?
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Lakers suck.
December 23rd, 2011 at 8:40 am
The problem on the passes to Megatron wasn’t the MLB but the safety.
The safeties were told to be deep and don’t get beat deep, and they just stood and watched Megatron either just blow past him (MM34) or couldn’t even make a play on a lob pass (Boyd).
Not sure what was worse, the scheme by the DC or the execution by the players. It is debatable.
December 23rd, 2011 at 8:40 am
291.Just Fire Baby Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 8:33 am
Last year in KC, Rolando played a great game and may have been the best player on the field that day.
I am expecting the same in about 27 hours.
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Man, i’m having a hard time liking McClain after that “incident” OFF the field but worse that incident ON the filed…the one where he whiffed on tackling the ever elusive, Barry Sanders like Matt Stafford on 4th down. He could’ve won the game there, but noooooooooo.
December 23rd, 2011 at 8:41 am
298.RaidingTexas Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 8:40 am
Dakota Says:
Anything positive to talk about?
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Lakers suck.
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Hater.
December 23rd, 2011 at 8:42 am
Lots of McClain bashers around these parts.
So I take it, I will be the only one wearing a white #55 tomorrow?
December 23rd, 2011 at 8:44 am
Good morning Nation, at this time tomorrow we will gear up to dismantle the Chiefs, and the Bills will shake out of their funk and beat the Tebows. So let it be written…..
December 23rd, 2011 at 8:48 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 8:42 am
Lots of McClain bashers around these parts.
So I take it, I will be the only one wearing a white #55 tomorrow?
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No perspective here on McClain at all. Kid is 22, has had 2 different coordinators in 2 years, and has played injured all year. The lessons of DHB and McFadden and Nnamdi be damned, the fools in here expect people to just be great out of the box. Let the players grow. McClain will be very good. So glad most of these people dont work in our front office.
December 23rd, 2011 at 8:48 am
SO WHATS UP WITH THE MUP LIST ANYWAY ?
December 23rd, 2011 at 8:48 am
Dakota, actually from the Dakota’s, or just a cool name?
December 23rd, 2011 at 8:49 am
Just Fire,
I WANT to like him, I really do.
I’m really disappointed in him right now.
BTW, are Raiders gonna wear those white throwback jerseys ever this year? I thought mandated every team wear throwbacks at least once a year?
Those white throwbacks are the best in sports imo.
December 23rd, 2011 at 8:53 am
DHB, Nnamdi and McFadden had work ethic.
McClain was overrated in college and is a lazy, stupid fat POS in the NFL=no chance.
December 23rd, 2011 at 8:57 am
BTW, are Raiders gonna wear those white throwback jerseys ever this year? I thought mandated every team wear throwbacks at least once a year?
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I believe, after the AFL Anniverary season, Al asked the league to make those our permanent away jerseys, and he was told we can’t because the silver numbers on the white jersey is ‘too hard to see on tv’…
I agree, I love those jerseys.
December 23rd, 2011 at 8:59 am
Would be pretty cool to have us and the Queefs where AFL throwbacks this weekend.
December 23rd, 2011 at 9:01 am
You gotta understand. It’s only been a few days since one of the worst defensive meltdowns in Raider history that was probably the defining defensive series of the season, where McClain whiffed on a tackle that could have saved the season perhaps. He is in noones opinion (media, analysts, most fans) living up to the promise he had when drafted, he embarrassed the organization with that arrest in Ala.
I think it’s understandable some folks might be down on him today.
December 23rd, 2011 at 9:03 am
Dakota Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 8:53 am
DHB, Nnamdi and McFadden had work ethic.
McClain was overrated in college and is a lazy, stupid fat POS in the NFL=no chance
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McClain has been playing hurt all year. When was the last time we saw McFadden?? And didnt the dr tell him he would have to “Learn to deal with the pain.” At least McClain is willing to battle through a little pain. McFadden has been sitting back watching our playoff chances fade away while babying his little tootsies……work ethic???
December 23rd, 2011 at 9:06 am
Dakota Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 8:53 am
DHB, Nnamdi and McFadden had work ethic.
McClain was overrated in college and is a lazy, stupid fat POS in the NFL=no chance.
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Maybe he has some pride, it must get pretty humiliating in the film room.
December 23rd, 2011 at 9:08 am
Djohnnyg Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 9:01 am
You gotta understand. It’s only been a few days since one of the worst defensive meltdowns in Raider history that was probably the defining defensive series of the season, where McClain whiffed on a tackle that could have saved the season perhaps. He is in noones opinion (media, analysts, most fans) living up to the promise he had when drafted, he embarrassed the organization with that arrest in Ala.
I think it’s understandable some folks might be down on him today
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Routt shouldve been following Megatron around all day, should never have come to that play. I agree the arrest in Alabama was a major PR blow for him, especially since the week before he was talking about how much COD he’s been playing, but we dont have all the facts either. My point is let the kid grow, he’s shown some flashes. I hope Ray Lewis reaches out to the kid and takes him under his wing. That could make a huge difference for him. If he would be willing to listen that is.
December 23rd, 2011 at 9:08 am
And didnt the dr tell him he would have to “Learn to deal with the pain.” At least McClain is willing to battle through a little pain. McFadden has been sitting back watching our playoff chances fade away while babying his little tootsies……work ethic???
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Dude, that is completely inaccurate, and ignorant to boot. McFadden as just told a few days ago that he could play if he could manage the pain. His foot still isn’t all the way healed. The nature of the injury is one that, if he reinjures, could end his career, not to mention that at less than 100% how effective is he going to be anyways. Wake up man, if it was just a ’sore tootsie’ he would have been out there a long time ago.
December 23rd, 2011 at 9:14 am
312.Forrest Hump Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 9:03 am
Dakota Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 8:53 am
DHB, Nnamdi and McFadden had work ethic.
McClain was overrated in college and is a lazy, stupid fat POS in the NFL=no chance
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McClain has been playing hurt all year. When was the last time we saw McFadden?? And didnt the dr tell him he would have to “Learn to deal with the pain.” At least McClain is willing to battle through a little pain. McFadden has been sitting back watching our playoff chances fade away while babying his little tootsies……work ethic???
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Lol, one has a sprained ankle the other suffered a serious injury. You must be joking right?
McClain came to camp healthy….well, with a healthy double chin and a healthy set of man titties.
You really think it is okay for an NFL athlete, who’s only job is to stay in top physical condition, and is only 23 years old, to come to work in that condition? You think it is okay for him to quit on plays once the play is one foot in front of him?
I have been saying this stuff about McClain for a long time, you guys were just slow to recognize it (as usual). He isn’t going to change his personality….Same story as Russell.
December 23rd, 2011 at 9:15 am
313.silverback Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 9:06 am
Dakota Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 8:53 am
DHB, Nnamdi and McFadden had work ethic.
McClain was overrated in college and is a lazy, stupid fat POS in the NFL=no chance.
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Maybe he has some pride, it must get pretty humiliating in the film room.
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He has been getting humiliated in the film room for two years now….what makes you think anything recent will change him?
December 23rd, 2011 at 9:17 am
SPRAINED ankle……SPRAINED foot…….both player make their living with their feet…….We cut one slack and not the other one…….How many of you had everything in your life together at 22??
December 23rd, 2011 at 9:18 am
the epitath on this season will read too little too late. This is a team that isnt used to success and is having a little trouble handling it in clutch moments. At least they have another game to decide if they are going to finish – or thats a wrap. Has nothing to do with McClain or DMC’s injury. Plenty of teams have injury, yet find a way to rally.
December 23rd, 2011 at 9:19 am
Lol, we’ll let you wait around until 2020 when McClain has finally matured in his thirties.
December 23rd, 2011 at 9:20 am
He has been getting humiliated in the film room for two years now….what makes you think anything recent will change him?
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When hope is all a fan has, do not deprive him of that.
December 23rd, 2011 at 9:21 am
I can’t get over that pic of him smiling for the camera when he got busted.
That pic spoke volumes about his attitude.
December 23rd, 2011 at 9:22 am
321.silverback Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 9:20 am
He has been getting humiliated in the film room for two years now….what makes you think anything recent will change him?
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When hope is all a fan has, do not deprive him of that.
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There is always hope….in this case you hope the Raiders recognize McClain for what he is….a troubled, lazy POS, and cut ties and get someone in at MLB next year who has more of a desire to make plays than to hold guns to people’s heads and play tough guy against the media.
December 23rd, 2011 at 9:23 am
Joetoronto Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 9:21 am
I can’t get over that pic of him smiling for the camera when he got busted.
That pic spoke volumes about his attitude
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I think the only explanation for that pick is that the charges are complete BS and he knew it. That’s my hope anyway.
December 23rd, 2011 at 9:24 am
People were saying the same thing about Derrick Johnson from the Chiefs that some of you are saying about McClain, and DJ is probably a pro-bowler this year. Hate it all you want but other than JaMarcus Al’s drafting has been spot on the last 4 years. This pick is no different. Just watch.
December 23rd, 2011 at 9:25 am
318.Forrest Hump Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 9:17 am
SPRAINED ankle……SPRAINED foot…….both player make their living with their feet…….We cut one slack and not the other one…….How many of you had everything in your life together at 22??
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Dmacs ’sprained foot’ is the same injury that has ended seasons and careers for MANY players. Not exactly the same thing as McClains sprained ankle.
December 23rd, 2011 at 9:25 am
They have to get some guys who are focused – types like Cushing, Laurinitis, Tebow. Too many dudes taking this in stride…almost an acceptance…they have to not accept this level of play and raise their level of focus, attitude. They’ve had double digit losses and their weaknesses are showing since Miami. Need to sign veterans, closers, people used to November-December football. I think Singletary failed in S.F. but somehow infused them some kind of resolve over there. They play defense, run the ball and dont turn it over. We do the opposite. Must get a Ray Lewis type here – that would scream at Jason Boyd and say ; “WHAT THE F$CK ARE YOU LAUGHING AT?!” I mean, it may have to get to the point of fisticuffs – somebody has to get it straight. I remember in the Pittsburgh upset in 09, Gradkowski yelled at Henderson to make a block – and he turned around and said “You talking to me?..oh, OK.”
They have to clean house of this mentality in 2012
December 23rd, 2011 at 9:26 am
I would say that I’m not sure McClain is too excited about being a Raider. That bothers me more than anything else.
December 23rd, 2011 at 9:28 am
Forrest Hump Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 9:23 am
Joetoronto Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 9:21 am
I can’t get over that pic of him smiling for the camera when he got busted.
That pic spoke volumes about his attitude
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I think the only explanation for that pick is that the charges are complete BS and he knew it. That’s my hope anyway.
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At the very least, it shows really bad judgement. First to be in that situation at all, and then to smile for the camera.
His lack of effort last game, on a play down the sideline made me wanna puke.
December 23rd, 2011 at 9:28 am
They have to get some guys who are focused – types like Cushing, Laurinitis, Tebow. Too many dudes taking this in stride…almost an acceptance…they have to not accept this level of play and raise their level of focus, attitude. They’ve had double digit losses and their weaknesses are showing since Miami. Need to sign veterans, closers, people used to November-December football. I think Singletary failed in S.F. but somehow infused them some kind of resolve over there. They play defense, run the ball and dont turn it over. We do the opposite. Must get a Ray Lewis type here – that would scream at Jason Boyd and say ; “WHAT THE F$CK ARE YOU LAUGHING AT?!” I mean, it may have to get to the point of fisticuffs – somebody has to get it straight. I remember in the Pittsburgh upset in 09, Gradkowski yelled at Henderson to make a block – and he turned around and said “You talking to me?..oh, OK.”
They have to clean house of this mentality in 2012
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I’ve always felt like Tommy Kelly is the embodiement of what youre talking about here. Anyone ever notice we havent had a winning season with him here?? Something about him has always rubbed me the wrong way. I think he is cancer in the locker room.
December 23rd, 2011 at 9:29 am
Must get a Ray Lewis type here – that would scream at Jason Boyd and say ; “WHAT THE F$CK ARE YOU LAUGHING AT?!
i meant Jerome Boyd (who was laughing on sidelines after giving up the long reception to megatron, right before the winning score). This has gone on before; T.Pryor doing the “dougie” on the sideline in the 28-0 loss to KC. Its like someone should shout, but are afraid they wouldnt be backed up by anybody. This has to stop. Gannon was unliked, but he kicked a$%, Romo shattered some guys face in practice – they need this mentality (not necessarily the roid rage) , but someone to step up, and some vets to back them, so Boyd-McClain-Murphy and the other goof offs will feel ashamed, and refocus to another level.
December 23rd, 2011 at 9:30 am
Dmacs ’sprained foot’ is the same injury that has ended seasons and careers for MANY players. Not exactly the same thing as McClains sprained ankle.
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Why do so many people question McFadden’s character? His work ethic and running style, demonstrate his commitment and desire. The reasonable and obvious explanation is that he has a serious and possibly career threatening injury.
December 23rd, 2011 at 9:31 am
Right on, RaiderSam.
December 23rd, 2011 at 9:31 am
309.bcz24 Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 8:57 am
BTW, are Raiders gonna wear those white throwback jerseys ever this year? I thought mandated every team wear throwbacks at least once a year?
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I believe, after the AFL Anniverary season, Al asked the league to make those our permanent away jerseys, and he was told we can’t because the silver numbers on the white jersey is ‘too hard to see on tv’…
I agree, I love those jerseys.
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We already wore the throwbacks this year. The black ones, lol.
I agree about the throwback whites; love ‘em and would like to see them again. I think Al’s request to use them permanently was made when they first came out, though. The league said no because TV wasn’t what it is today and it would have been a problem. If some of those godawful Nike jerseys can make it to the field I don’t see any reason why the throwback whites would be an issue with today’s broadcasting technology .
I wonder if the Chiefs will go all the way back to the (Dallas) Texans days when they next do throwbacks. There were quite a few butthurt KC fans when they trotted out those helmets with the state of Texas on the side.
December 23rd, 2011 at 9:32 am
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I’ve always felt like Tommy Kelly is the embodiement of what youre talking about here. Anyone ever notice we havent had a winning season with him here?? Something about him has always rubbed me the wrong way. I think he is cancer in the locker room.
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Sapp said that he was a great player, then Davis up and gave the guy a ridiculous contract. A lot of these guys are way over-paid, and arent hungry. They have simply been under these conditions for too long and have too much coaching turnover and have tuned out people. And their stuck with these contracts. You can only hope a hot rookie comes in and just completely changes the entire atmosphere, or has a 17 sack season or 11 picks with 4 for scores and 6 KOR for scores – they need a difference maker with an Ed Reed smarts/leadership package IN THE WORST WAY.
December 23rd, 2011 at 9:33 am
We already wore the throwbacks this year. The black ones, lol.
I agree about the throwback whites; love ‘em and would like to see them again. I think Al’s request to use them permanently was made when they first came out, though. The league said no because TV wasn’t what it is today and it would have been a problem. If some of those godawful Nike jerseys can make it to the field I don’t see any reason why the throwback whites would be an issue with today’s broadcasting technology .
I wonder if the Chiefs will go all the way back to the (Dallas) Texans days when they next do throwbacks. There were quite a few butthurt KC fans when they trotted out those helmets with the state of Texas on the side.
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I agree. Throw back jerseys with throwback mentality of Tatum, Atkinson, D.Casper…Matuszak, Stabler, T.Brown, W.Brown, L.Hayes, L.Alzado, H.Long and C.Branch – lets get REAL THROWBACK, PLEASE!?!
December 23rd, 2011 at 9:33 am
i meant Jerome Boyd (who was laughing on sidelines after giving up the long reception to megatron, right before the winning score). -
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I missed this. I saw him clowning after the block in the back. Not after a big reception.
December 23rd, 2011 at 9:35 am
Well, a player like than needs to come from within the organization. I think a guy coming in from the outside would just be laughed at. But the guy has to turn in to a great player. Nnamdi did that, but he was too much of a nice guy to take command.
I don’t see any other young defensive player who looks like they can turn into that. Branch? lol Routt? Too busy dry humping WRs 15 yards downfield to get any respect. Kelly? No, he is part of the problem. Seymour? Been here a while, but obviously was not that guy in NE either.
If none of the players can bring that attitude then it has to come from the coaching staff. hue? Chuck B? No way no how.
yikes.
December 23rd, 2011 at 9:35 am
Joetoronto Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 9:31 am
Right on, RaiderSam.
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Thank you. I mean, REALLY. How long can this crap go on?! Tebow suited up and them fools won what? 7 straight!?
December 23rd, 2011 at 9:38 am
Dakota Says:
Hater.
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Naturally. I’m a Mavericks fan. Will be at the game Sunday to watch the banner go up in the rafters. How sweet it will be, knowing that a sweep of the Lakers was part of that path to glory. LOL
December 23rd, 2011 at 9:38 am
Silverback Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 9:33 am
i meant Jerome Boyd (who was laughing on sidelines after giving up the long reception to megatron, right before the winning score). -
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I missed this. I saw him clowning after the block in the back. Not after a big reception.
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that must’ve been it…but this has gone on before, Warren Sapp dancing on the sideline after a meaningless season ending loss at Jacksonville, somebody was laughing in the background of a Nnamdi Asomugha interview after a blowout loss on the NFL Network (when J-Russell was QB) – i wished Nnamdi had just turned around and said What the f$%k is so goddamn funny – we got our goddamn asses kicked – YOU THINK THATS FUNNY – and just would wail on him on TV and everything. McKenzie or somebody has to do a better job at screening out these types next season – FOR REAL. This team just doesnt believe..
December 23rd, 2011 at 9:40 am
340.RaidingTexas Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 9:38 am
Dakota Says:
Hater.
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Naturally. I’m a Mavericks fan. Will be at the game Sunday to watch the banner go up in the rafters. How sweet it will be, knowing that a sweep of the Lakers was part of that path to glory. LOL
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Hey, only need 15 more to get into the conversation with the Lakers! Good luck with that lol.
December 23rd, 2011 at 9:49 am
Man, i’m having a hard time liking McClain after that “incident” OFF the field but worse that incident ON the filed…the one where he whiffed on tackling the ever elusive, Barry Sanders like Matt Stafford on 4th down. He could’ve won the game there, but noooooooooo.
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BINGO.
At a time when the Raids were gearing up for a playoff run and building momentum, the POS McClain was busy playing ‘gangsta’ and getting arrested, instead of being focused on football. And this is while he was given a week off to attend a funeral.
I fully expect this turd to use his ‘legal problems’ as an excuse for coming in out of shape next season.
Flashback to Fred Jackson’s TD run in Buffalo – Slowlando JOGGING in pursuit. Total lack of hustle or desire.
Watch the Stafford run again (I have, about 5 times), Rolando has an unimpeded look at the play developing right in front of him. He’s completely unblocked. Yet Matt Freaking Stafford runs past him COMPLETELY UNTOUCHED. WHIFF. Ridiculously bad play by McClain. Intolerable.
McClain is slow as molasses, has questionable character, and is a zero impact run stopper.
He’s pure unadulterated CRAP.
McClain is a festering cancer that must be purged from the roster.
December 23rd, 2011 at 9:50 am
343.RAIDERMAN99 Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 9:49 am
Man, i’m having a hard time liking McClain after that “incident” OFF the field but worse that incident ON the filed…the one where he whiffed on tackling the ever elusive, Barry Sanders like Matt Stafford on 4th down. He could’ve won the game there, but noooooooooo.
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BINGO.
At a time when the Raids were gearing up for a playoff run and building momentum, the POS McClain was busy playing ‘gangsta’ and getting arrested, instead of being focused on football. And this is while he was given a week off to attend a funeral.
I fully expect this turd to use his ‘legal problems’ as an excuse for coming in out of shape next season.
Flashback to Fred Jackson’s TD run in Buffalo – Slowlando JOGGING in pursuit. Total lack of hustle or desire.
Watch the Stafford run again (I have, about 5 times), Rolando has an unimpeded look at the play developing right in front of him. He’s completely unblocked. Yet Matt Freaking Stafford runs past him COMPLETELY UNTOUCHED. WHIFF. Ridiculously bad play by McClain. Intolerable.
McClain is slow as molasses, has questionable character, and is a zero impact run stopper.
He’s pure unadulterated CRAP.
McClain is a festering cancer that must be purged from the roster.
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Yes! Yes! Hear hear!
December 23rd, 2011 at 9:54 am
“Hey, only need 15 more to get into the conversation with the Lakers! Good luck with that lol.”
Your only as good as your last season who cares about ancient history!
Dallas is the champs stop trying to belittle their championship man up you lost!
I hate basketball!
December 23rd, 2011 at 10:04 am
Ya’ll quit dissin Chucky B. He is like Einstein, cant do simple math but light years ahead in the feld. Chucky B is a great D cordinator, just cant relate to simple players. He needs to return next season and be left alone, so he can think. No assistants. Just Chucky B, mano y mano.
Raiders will have the #1 defense next year led by Chucky B. He is working on a new scheme, the R2D2. It will be the new standard. Rush 2, 7 guys 3 yards back, and 2 deep. 11 players crash the ball. Nothing will advance on this new scheme. Chucky B tweeted this:
:chuckybchuckyb: my new r2d2 will change the face of d.
Raiders 42
KC 0
December 23rd, 2011 at 10:11 am
Just win these last two and see where it takes us …
December 23rd, 2011 at 10:14 am
346..Bresnahans a great DC?…. Of course your kidding…
Or intoxicated ..
December 23rd, 2011 at 10:33 am
I TOTALLY AGREE WITH DAKOTA. Mcclain is a total piece of garbage. If he’s supposed to be a defensive leader to build around, we’re in trouble. He’s so out of shape, he looks like a dt trailing the play. Seymour’s knee makes him useless after halftime. Wembley makes too much money to be a3rd down rusher, but he sucks as a lb. MM Has athletic ability, but seems to make mental mistakes in every game. Bres sucks, but these parts do not fit. Start over with some real leaders on D. The d needs to fit the personel.
December 23rd, 2011 at 10:33 am
Dear Hue,
Please outscore the opposition for the next 2 games and get us in to the playoffs. Even if we were to go one and out, we can take our lumps and bounce back next year with a new DC and upgraded roster.
Fire Chuck B. I love this quote from the current post:
“We only had one target,” Bresnahan said. Johnson caught nine passes for 214 yards and two touchdowns.
December 23rd, 2011 at 10:34 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
Your only as good as your last season who cares about ancient history!
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Exactly. That’s why I don’t care about how many Super Bowls the Raiders won in the past. Dammit I want one now!
December 23rd, 2011 at 10:35 am
Hard to disagree with any of this:
349.0ak72 Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 10:33 am
I TOTALLY AGREE WITH DAKOTA. Mcclain is a total piece of garbage. If he’s supposed to be a defensive leader to build around, we’re in trouble. He’s so out of shape, he looks like a dt trailing the play. Seymour’s knee makes him useless after halftime. Wembley makes too much money to be a3rd down rusher, but he sucks as a lb. MM Has athletic ability, but seems to make mental mistakes in every game. Bres sucks, but these parts do not fit. Start over with some real leaders on D. The d needs to fit the personel.
December 23rd, 2011 at 10:38 am
Good morning all. 24 and a half hours till game time. Everytime I see something like the Colts game yesterday it gives me a renewed hope we can make it to post season play!
December 23rd, 2011 at 10:42 am
McClain will probably end up in the Hall of Fame because Dakotex is ALWAYS WRONG.
Go Raiders!
December 23rd, 2011 at 10:46 am
Idk Dr. he looks slow and lost a lot of the time
December 23rd, 2011 at 10:49 am
I just watched the Stafford run. A good MLB makes that play, a good MLB prays for the QB to try and run for the 1st.
Like Chuck B says, we just didn’t execute!
December 23rd, 2011 at 10:52 am
Jerry Mac on Twitter:
“ESPN/McFadden report baffles me. You mean he hasn’t been getting tested regularly all along to see when he’s ready? Should be tested daily.”
If it comes out that DMac hasn’t been getting tested daily, or at least once every other day, it’s on Hue and another reason he should be handed his walking papers if they miss the playoffs.
December 23rd, 2011 at 10:57 am
Wimbley is as good of a 4-3 SLB as you’ll find in the league, and his versatility as a nickle rusher makes him one of the only valuable players on the Raider defense.
Still not an impact player. The Raiders don’t have one.
Routt, Wimbley, and Branch are above average veteran players.
Curry, Huff, and Sheppard are average-to-below-average, but it will be difficult to find clear upgrades at any of their positions.
Houston, Shaughnessy, Bryant, Chekwa, and Van Dyke are all young with tremendous upside.
Groves and Giordano are solid veteran role players who won’t break the bank. Mitchell can at least cover TEs well.
McClain’s effort, play-recognition, and ability to shed blocks are all questionable. Seymour and Kelly are both on the wrong side of 30, can’t defend the run, and far too often disappear in games. Playing both at DT is a mismatch for most defensive schemes, especially when the LB corps is shaky v.s. the run.
Moss, Henderson, and McCann are players the Raiders will likely move on from after this season.
Raiders need to get younger and more talented at DT, find a solid veteran MLB (Ruud would be ideal here), get a little more depth at LB and DB, and add one legitimate game-changer anywhere on this defense.
December 23rd, 2011 at 10:57 am
Hue has made a few questionable decisions this year including not going for two vs the lions after our last td.
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:05 am
Jerrymcd Jerry McDonald
ESPN/McFadden report baffles me. You mean he hasn’t been getting tested regularly all along to see when he’s ready? Should be tested daily.
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Huh? They don’t test him?
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:08 am
216.qodrn1 Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:47 am
Please don’t move my A’s anywhere near Santa Clara. That would just be bad (not to mention all the fans there support the Giants).
Wolf is an idiot.
Let’s send the ghost of Al to him. That’s snap him out of it.
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I care more about what is best for the A’s organization and their future here in the Bay Area!
I don’t care what is best for the City of Oakland!
If San Jose is a better city for the A’s to be stable and successful and be able to spend money, than I’m for them moving. I just want them to stay in the Bay Area. Just as long as they get a new stadium here in the Bay.
BTW, SJ is a city without a major sports franchise besides the Sharks. They are hungry for another pro sports team and they will have plenty of fans in SJ. Most Giants fans live in the Peninsula, San Mateo County and in SF.
The fans in the South Bay will support whichever pro sports theam they get there.
If the A’s move there, trust me, they will pack and sell out that 37k ballpark, because the South Bay fans will jump on the bandwagon of going to a brand spanking new ballpark and A’s fans in the East Bay will still go to games and the big corporate big wigs in Silicon Valley will there as well.
I live in Pleasanton, so I don’t mind driving to SJ. For me it’s the same distance as going to Oakland.
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:10 am
Raiders also have work to do on offense.
Wiz should be the starting center. Heyer has looked good at LG and should be re-signed to fill that role. The Raiders need to figure out if Barksdale or Campbell are ready to start at RT, and find a long-term solution at RG since Carlisle is aging.
The backup QB spot needs to be addressed since Boller is likely gone after this season, and Pryor is still a pup.
Most importantly? The Raiders need to entertain trade offers for Darren McFadden. If they can get a 2nd round pick in return, they should take it immediately. McFadden’s 8 games a season are a luxury that a team that has so much room to improve (and so little cap space to do it with) cannot afford.
Re-sign Bush, and draft a couple more young RBs in the mid-to-late rounds (at least one who excels at perimeter runs – Cyrus Gray is an option here) so that the Raiders can effectively spell Bush (95% of the offensive snaps is too much for him) even in the event that injuries happen.
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:12 am
358.YoungAmerican Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 10:57 am
Wimbley is as good of a 4-3 SLB as you’ll find in the league, and his versatility as a nickle rusher makes him one of the only valuable players on the Raider defense.
Still not an impact player. The Raiders don’t have one.
Routt, Wimbley, and Branch are above average veteran players.
Curry, Huff, and Sheppard are average-to-below-average, but it will be difficult to find clear upgrades at any of their positions.
Houston, Shaughnessy, Bryant, Chekwa, and Van Dyke are all young with tremendous upside.
Groves and Giordano are solid veteran role players who won’t break the bank. Mitchell can at least cover TEs well.
McClain’s effort, play-recognition, and ability to shed blocks are all questionable. Seymour and Kelly are both on the wrong side of 30, can’t defend the run, and far too often disappear in games. Playing both at DT is a mismatch for most defensive schemes, especially when the LB corps is shaky v.s. the run.
Moss, Henderson, and McCann are players the Raiders will likely move on from after this season.
Raiders need to get younger and more talented at DT, find a solid veteran MLB (Ruud would be ideal here), get a little more depth at LB and DB, and add one legitimate game-changer anywhere on this defense.
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They need to add another vet nickel back and two young stud beast type UT and NT and yes they need to add another vet MIKE to push and compete with RoMac.
I think I would like to see Moss stay and T Scott perhaps move on.
Moss has more explosiveness and Scott seems to have lost his since his knee injury last year.
Moss is longer and more athletic also when it comes to getting in the backfield and also moving laterally.
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:13 am
FIREHUE!
Just Win Baby.
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:15 am
http://nflmocks.com/2011/12/23/memphis-dt-dontari-poe-on-nfl-draft-its-time-im-ready/
If the Raiders can manage to trade up, I couldn’t imagine a better target…
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:16 am
362.YoungAmerican Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:10 am
Raiders also have work to do on offense.
Wiz should be the starting center. Heyer has looked good at LG and should be re-signed to fill that role. The Raiders need to figure out if Barksdale or Campbell are ready to start at RT, and find a long-term solution at RG since Carlisle is aging.
The backup QB spot needs to be addressed since Boller is likely gone after this season, and Pryor is still a pup.
Most importantly? The Raiders need to entertain trade offers for Darren McFadden. If they can get a 2nd round pick in return, they should take it immediately. McFadden’s 8 games a season are a luxury that a team that has so much room to improve (and so little cap space to do it with) cannot afford.
Re-sign Bush, and draft a couple more young RBs in the mid-to-late rounds (at least one who excels at perimeter runs – Cyrus Gray is an option here) so that the Raiders can effectively spell Bush (95% of the offensive snaps is too much for him) even in the event that injuries happen.
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Yeah, I think Satele is going to be let go and Wiz will move to Center providing a more physical presence at Center and Heyer should be kept to compete at LG.
I think they will lean to let Carlisle go, since he is on the wrong side of 33 and is not as physical as Barksdale would be at RG.
I think Campbell will compete at RT next year. If they let Satele, Carlisle and Barnes go, they need to add two more vet OT’s for depth purposes.
That is the one if the good things about this OLine this year. They have DEPTH and that is very important!
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:17 am
Dontari Poe and Alameda Ta’amu should be on the Raiders’ radar. If either of these guys fall to the 2nd round, the Raiders should explore every possible option to trade up and draft either of them.
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:18 am
If they can get a 2nd round pick in return, they should take it immediately
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Insanity.
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:23 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:18 am
If they can get a 2nd round pick in return, they should take it immediately
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Insanity.
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If I’m trying to build a team, and the roster I’m working with has holes everywhere, I’d rather get something for a player who doesn’t help the team win than have him get injured again, miss eight crucial games in a playoff run, and then the team gets nothing when he’s a free agent and not worth re-signing.
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:27 am
Trading DMC is the most absurd thing ive heard in here.
All those 20-30 yard runs Bush breaks off… Those are TDs with DMC.
We need both of them. Period.
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:29 am
If the Raiders don’t beat KC tomorrow, they don’t deserve to be in the playoffs.
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:29 am
DMAC is made of glass.
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:30 am
Aside from that we need DMAC or Jones speed to spread out the defense and make them defend the width of the field. Bush is not a threat to take it outside and that has been the biggest problem for Hue & Palmer.
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DeuceDeuce Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:27 am
Trading DMC is the most absurd thing ive heard in here.
All those 20-30 yard runs Bush breaks off… Those are TDs with DMC.
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:31 am
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:29 am
If the Raiders don’t beat KC tomorrow, they don’t deserve to be in the playoffs.
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I said that same thing about the Detroit game so… If we make it, we make it. But we dont deserve it as it stands now. Too many games we gave away.
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:31 am
MistaBrown Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:30 am
Aside from that we need DMAC or Jones speed to spread out the defense and make them defend the width of the field. Bush is not a threat to take it outside and that has been the biggest problem for Hue & Palmer.
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Ding ding!!!
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:31 am
Just his feet, the rest of him is a rock.
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Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:29 am
DMAC is made of glass.
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:32 am
Throw the Mia game in there please.
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DeuceDeuce Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:31 am
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:29 am
If the Raiders don’t beat KC tomorrow, they don’t deserve to be in the playoffs.
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I said that same thing about the Detroit game so… If we make it, we make it. But we dont deserve it as it stands now. Too many games we gave away.
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:34 am
Let’s give up on a guy who is arguably the best RB in the NFL, top 3 for sure when healthy.. Yeah that makes sense.
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:34 am
Jerry the dunce, if the Doc’s know he is 3 or 7 weeks away from being ready why test him everyday?
Idiot.
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Jerry Mac on Twitter:
“ESPN/McFadden report baffles me. You mean he hasn’t been getting tested regularly all along to see when he’s ready? Should be tested daily.”
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:35 am
You can find perimeter runners with good acceleration anywhere in the draft. May not be quite the caliber of player that McFadden is, but they also wouldn’t eat $5 million of the salary cap on a team that desperately needs to improve in other areas, and they also likely wouldn’t miss 50% of every season they play.
If you can’t justify re-signing him when his contract is up, then get something for him before that happens.
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:35 am
Too many penalties. Bad defense. Bad coaching. No leadership.
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:36 am
DeuceDeuce Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:34 am
Let’s give up on a guy who is arguably the best RB in the NFL, top 3 for sure when healthy.. Yeah that makes sense.
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When is he healthy? Certainly not the first four seasons of his career, nor for a playoff run when the rest of his team is ready to contend.
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:37 am
365.YoungAmerican Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:15 am
http://nflmocks.com/2011/12/23/memphis-dt-dontari-poe-on-nfl-draft-its-time-im-ready/
If the Raiders can manage to trade up, I couldn’t imagine a better target…
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I also like Mister Cobble the NT out of Kentucky. Nice space eater.
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:39 am
I also like DT Tydreke Powell from Carolina!
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:39 am
YoungAmerican Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:35 am
You can find perimeter runners with good acceleration anywhere in the draft. May not be quite the caliber of player that McFadden is, but they also wouldn’t eat $5 million of the salary cap on a team that desperately needs to improve in other areas, and they also likely wouldn’t miss 50% of every season they play.
If you can’t justify re-signing him when his contract is up, then get something for him before that happens.
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Thats a whole lot of assuming there.
What happens when that easily found perimeter runner’s contract is up? Just keep replacing them? Cuz theyre so easy to find right?..
Ask the Lions, Browns, Patriots, Bengals & Colts how thats working out for them
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:40 am
Jerry Mac on Twitter:
“ESPN/McFadden report baffles me. You mean he hasn’t been getting tested regularly all along to see when he’s ready? Should be tested daily.”
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With the type of injury McFadden suffered he could not put pressure on it. So the quote of “testing it daily” is dumb, and easily in the running for dumbest quote or post of the year for this blog…
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:41 am
You also said halftime adjustments are stupid.
Go sit down DiKnight
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DKnight007 Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:39 am
I also like DT Tydreke Powell from Carolina!
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:41 am
YoungAmerican Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:36 am
DeuceDeuce Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:34 am
Let’s give up on a guy who is arguably the best RB in the NFL, top 3 for sure when healthy.. Yeah that makes sense.
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When is he healthy? Certainly not the first four seasons of his career, nor for a playoff run when the rest of his team is ready to contend.
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Those games where he was leading the NFL in everything associated with the RB postiton…. THATS when he was healthy.
Ready to contend?? We cant even stay on sides half the time man. WERE NOT THAT GOOD. yet.
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:42 am
Right up there with Seymour Bush saying Lechler isn’t a placement kicker, yep
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Thec07 Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:40 am
Jerry Mac on Twitter:
“ESPN/McFadden report baffles me. You mean he hasn’t been getting tested regularly all along to see when he’s ready? Should be tested daily.”
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With the type of injury McFadden suffered he could not put pressure on it. So the quote of “testing it daily” is dumb, and easily in the running for dumbest quote or post of the year for this blog…
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:43 am
Deuce deuce,
Half these guys want mcfadden cut, and they wanted Jano cut after arizona last year, and they want our best coach since gruden canned as well. They’re emotional short-term thinkers. Don’t sweat it.
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:43 am
Whats good MistaB??? Hope all is well Bruh…
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:44 am
Trade Taiwan Jones, he cant stay healthy.
Trade Jacoby Ford, he cant stay healthy.
Maybe we can trade for Andre Johnson, cause the Texans probably want to get rid of that injury prone guy.
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:44 am
Hey Thec, its all good here off today & monday.
Have a good holiday
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:44 am
A year ago, the Raiders dominated the AFC West.
Now, Denver, a team we destroyed twice last year, is in first place and is playing SOLID defense.
KC just beat the Packers with more injuries than us and a QB off the street.
San Diego is playing inspired ball.
And Hue has the Raiders in a tail spin, PLAYING BAD FOOTBALL.
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:44 am
Even the best RBs in the league (AP, MJD, Chris Johnson) won’t get you past elite teams. It’s not like McFadden destroyed the Pittsburgh defense. He didn’t even help the Raiders past the Colts defense.
McFadden will help against some teams, but that assumes that he’s healthy. When he isn’t healthy, he doesn’t help the Raiders. He just eats a roster spot and costs $5 million to do so.
He’s a luxury. A good team can afford to keep a part-time player. The Raiders are not a good team yet. At least, not good enough to get past the best teams in the AFC. Even McFadden can’t help them do that. Have to build up other parts of the team.
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:45 am
All I want for christmas is the Offense to show up..the Defense to show up and SD and Tebow to LOSE….
Raiders 38
Squaws 17
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:45 am
Kyle Orton is far from a QB off the street. But I see the point youre trying to make.
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:46 am
Trade Taiwan Jones, he cant stay healthy.
Trade Jacoby Ford, he cant stay healthy.
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Taiwan Jones costs a fraction of what McFadden does. But recurring hamstring injuries were the reason I wasn’t interested in drafting him.
Jacoby Ford’s injuries are not recurring.
McFadden’s foot injuries, on the other hand, come around like clockwork.
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:47 am
He was off the street. Denver cut him.
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:47 am
Mistabrown,
Are you smoking crack again son??
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:47 am
SeaPerch had a steady string of kicks bouncing off the uprights and going wide right before the Ari game. I called for them to at least bring in serious competition to make him work for his job. It was clear Perch was taking off the entire off season and the preseason. I rode Perch hard for 2 years and now he is SeaBass again.
You’re welcom!
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Alex7 Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:43 am
Deuce deuce,
Half these guys want mcfadden cut, and they wanted Jano cut after arizona last year, and they want our best coach since gruden canned as well. They’re emotional short-term thinkers. Don’t sweat it.
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:48 am
Also a fan of Ariz and NY Giants this weekend ONLY
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:48 am
I would rather have Romeo Crennel than HUE.
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:48 am
DiKnight, you’re an ignoramus that doesn’t like to be reminded of the dumb sh!t you say. Not my fault punk!
Go Fk a duck piss ant…
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:49 am
the only unit on this team thst needs to get thrown under the bus is the underperforming defense, and the DCO….
If our defense was a stock that was traded on NYSE, it would be removed off the big board for impersonating a stock.
We pay a premium for our defense and yet it and the DCO are vastly underperforming and has cost the team money, and games….
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:49 am
MistaBrown Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:44 am
Hey Thec, its all good here off today & monday.
Have a good holiday
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You do the same Man…Enjoy, and be safe.
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:50 am
Another prospect for Raiders to look at should be OLB/DE Shea McLellin from Boise State in Round 2 or 3.
He has some explosiveness and power at 6′3, 260.
Can play as a down DE in situations, but is more of a fit as a 3-4 stand up OLB. Can also ILB in the 3-4 if need be as well.
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:50 am
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:47 am
He was off the street. Denver cut him.
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He was waived. As a favor so he can find a team to start for and help with a playoff push.
McCown? Off the streets.
Understand now?
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:51 am
DiKnight save the draft talk for draft time. Wanna be Gm/Talent scout.
smh
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:51 am
Well the DMAC situation is defnitely polarizing. It’s frustrating that he can’t stay healthy but when he is, he is definitely top 3 in the league. An electrifying game changer!
Please come back DMAC we need you!!
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:51 am
MistaClown needs ANGER MANAGEMENT.
Go Raiders!
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:51 am
SeaPerch had a steady string of kicks bouncing off the uprights and going wide right before the Ari game. I called for them to at least bring in serious competition to make him work for his job. It was clear Perch was taking off the entire off season and the preseason. I rode Perch hard for 2 years and now he is SeaBass again.
You’re welcom!
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Can’t argue that…Seems when this guy goes in on a player they start to perform…
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:52 am
404.MistaBrown Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:48 am
DiKnight, you’re an ignoramus that doesn’t like to be reminded of the dumb sh!t you say. Not my fault punk!
Go Fk a duck piss ant…
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haha
Go smoke some more crack son! Your barking up the wrong tree you conservative POS tool!
Halftime adjustments? WTF?!?
You F’N crackhead!!
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:52 am
I gotta run outta hear…
Hey to all of the RAIDER NATION enjoy the holidays, and be safe….
1 NATION
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:53 am
DueceDunce, semantics.
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:54 am
411.Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:51 am
MistaClown needs ANGER MANAGEMENT.
Go Raiders!
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Nah, he is just a lonely crackhead Piece of Chit who is depressed during the holidays who knows nothing about football or politics for that matter! lol
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:55 am
The ONLY reason we shouldn’t consider trading McFadden is because we wouldn’t get crap for him.
A RB, with some miles, injuries and a $5 million salary?
We would probably have to package him and a 4th round pick, just to get a 2nd rounder.
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:55 am
Mcfadden at 5 million was worth our 1st place start, especially his performance vs the Jets.
If every Raider making 5 million or more played at that level, we’d have the playoffs locked down.
Charles Woodson proved that it’s worth spending big instead of trying to replace HOF talent.
We have the millions, that’s not an issue.
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:55 am
You forgot racist.
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:56 am
409.MistaBrown Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:51 am
DiKnight save the draft talk for draft time. Wanna be Gm/Talent scout.
smh
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Oh…what else should we talk about? Enlighten us.
Waste more time talking about DMC’s injury? Who gives a crap…he is hurt and he is not playing the rest of the season.
Get over it people!
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:58 am
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:53 am
DueceDunce, semantics.
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Way to avoid acknowledgment of being wrong.
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:58 am
Those games where he was leading the NFL in everything associated with the RB postiton…. THATS when he was healthy.
Ready to contend?? We cant even stay on sides half the time man. WERE NOT THAT GOOD. yet.
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And where is he now? Being a game-changer on the sidelines?
When he went down the Raiders were in possession of the AFC West lead. They needed to lean on him because of Campbell’s injury. Were/are the Raiders ready for a deep playoff run? No. But they could have easily held the division lead.
Keeping a player like McFadden means other parts of the team don’t get upgraded. Then WHEN McFadden gets injured, not only are the other parts of the team still stocked with sub-par players, McFadden isn’t helping the team either.
Again, if a team offers a 2nd round pick or higher, the Raiders should take it. Good teams embrace the draft as a chance to build their squad and improve. Bad teams hold onto non-contributing players hoping next year will be different, because they’re afraid they can’t get any better no matter what they do.
Any team that holds onto an RB who has recurring foot, achilles, ACL/MCL, or concussion issues gets what they deserve year after year.
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:58 am
DiKnight go see a Doc for your amnesia and just because you were a crack baby born and left in a shoebox in the hood doesn’t mean we all smoke crack. Go talk to your mother about that sh!t.
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:59 am
The teams that look destined to win the Super Bowl (Patriots, Saints and Packers) have invested very little in their RB spot, as far as draft and salary.
The law-firm, Danny Woodhead, Pierre Thomas, Darren Sproles got some coin I guess, and the Packers are rolling with Grant, Kuhn and some 7th round pick.
RB’s are like the hoppers on the Wire. You use the $hit out of them when they are young, don’t pay them anythiing, and once they get big you shoot them in the ally, and get another young’en to replace him.
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:59 am
Again, if a team offers a 2nd round pick or higher, the Raiders should take it.
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Absolutely, and absolutely ZERO chance that will happen.
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:03 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:59 am
The teams that look destined to win the Super Bowl (Patriots, Saints and Packers) have invested very little in their RB spot, as far as draft and salary.
The law-firm, Danny Woodhead, Pierre Thomas, Darren Sproles got some coin I guess, and the Packers are rolling with Grant, Kuhn and some 7th round pick.
RB’s are like the hoppers on the Wire. You use the $hit out of them when they are young, don’t pay them anythiing, and once they get big you shoot them in the ally, and get another young’en to replace him.
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Those teams also have dynamic passing offenses and dont run the ball.
Kinda voids your point.
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:04 pm
I understand what you mean though Just Fire.
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:04 pm
Zero.
A Mcfadden half_season trumps 100% of whatever 53rd player on the roster he’s “blocking”
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:04 pm
alex7 Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:55 am
Mcfadden at 5 million was worth our 1st place start, especially his performance vs the Jets.
If every Raider making 5 million or more played at that level, we’d have the playoffs locked down.
Charles Woodson proved that it’s worth spending big instead of trying to replace HOF talent.
We have the millions, that’s not an issue.
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If every Raider who made $5 million+ was injured for 50% or more of every season he plays, the Raiders would already be in last place in the AFC West.
Hall of Fame talent? Try playing 12+ games a season and getting 1,000 yards more than once first.
“We” have the millions? First of all “we” don’t have the millions. Secondly, the Raiders are already riding the salary cap, and have multiple areas of the team that need improvement.
The last SuperBowl champion to have a player of McFadden’s caliber (when healthy) at RB? The Rams with Marshall Faulk – who was always healthy. Before that? Go back to Terrell Davis – a sixth round pick.
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:05 pm
Duece, The point was a year ago we dominated KC. They just beat the Packers with a QB that was with the team for a couple of weeks, a new Head coach, and a slew of injuries.
The Raiders didn’t even show up against Green Bay.
Hue has the team going in the wrong direction.
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:05 pm
[...] InsideBayArea.com reports that McFadden, who was informed by Dr. Robert Anderson last week that the foot injury has not completely healed, was told that he would have to play in pain if he comes back this season. [...]
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:06 pm
Those teams also have dynamic passing offenses and dont run the ball.
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…. because that’s what it takes to get past the best defensive teams in the AFC, and to outscore the best offensive teams in the AFC.
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:07 pm
Those teams also have dynamic passing offenses and dont run the ball.
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That is EXACTLY my point.
This years top two leading rushers:
MJD + Shady McCoy = no playoffs
2010:
Arian Foster + MJD = no playoff
2009 CJ2K ran for over 2,000 yards, while his team started 0-10, lol!!!
Top-tier RB’s are not important in today ’s NFL. QB, WR’s, O-line and maybe even TE’s are more important today. You just need someone cheap, reliable, who won’t fumble and will break the occasional tackle.
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:08 pm
A Mcfadden half_season trumps 100% of whatever 53rd player on the roster he’s “blocking”
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How about blocking the Raiders from making a competitive offer to a young defensive linemen or linebacker in free agency? Or blocking the Raiders from adding a running back who can adequately spell Bush since McFadden is always injured for games that matter?
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:09 pm
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:05 pm
Duece, The point was a year ago we dominated KC. They just beat the Packers with a QB that was with the team for a couple of weeks, a new Head coach, and a slew of injuries.
The Raiders didn’t even show up against Green Bay.
Hue has the team going in the wrong direction.
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OK. But from what I saw KC didnt beat them with their QB play.
And Id have a hard time seeing evidence that Hue is to blame.
He cant just fire his DC in the middle of the season with no play caller on the staff.
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:09 pm
The saints infested a 1st rounder in a RB. The patriots were best when they had Corey Dillon. They just infested two high picks at the rb position.
And yeah, like DD said, we don’t have that kind of a passing attack…yet
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:10 pm
How many playoff games have CJ2K, MJD, Steven Jackson and Adrian Peterson won over the years?
And it is clear that if Hue and CP3 stay, we are going to try to be more like the Pats offense than the Jets offense, chucking it a ton.
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:11 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:07 pm
Those teams also have dynamic passing offenses and dont run the ball.
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That is EXACTLY my point.
This years top two leading rushers:
MJD + Shady McCoy = no playoffs
2010:
Arian Foster + MJD = no playoff
2009 CJ2K ran for over 2,000 yards, while his team started 0-10, lol!!!
Top-tier RB’s are not important in today ’s NFL. QB, WR’s, O-line and maybe even TE’s are more important today. You just need someone cheap, reliable, who won’t fumble and will break the occasional tackle.
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Thats a result of the offense they run.
As a run first team we NEED DMC. Our team is built on ball control and defense right now.
Those teams didnt lose because of the RB play obviously. Theres more that factors into the equation
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:13 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:10 pm
How many playoff games have CJ2K, MJD, Steven Jackson and Adrian Peterson won over the years?
And it is clear that if Hue and CP3 stay, we are going to try to be more like the Pats offense than the Jets offense, chucking it a ton.
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Funny cuz every one of those RBs you mentioned have or have had horrible QBs… Me thinks that had something to do with the teams lack of success..
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:13 pm
alex7 Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:09 pm
The saints infested a 1st rounder in a RB.
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And they were smart enough to know when he wasn’t worth keeping. Now they have a rotation of players who are more than adequate for what they need. And they signed a player out of free agency in Darren Sproles who not only costs less, but contributes more.
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:13 pm
Who are the two high-picks at RB for the Patriots?
That dude they just cut this offseason, Maroney?
Corey Dillon is MY TYPE OF EXAMPLE. Cost a 2nd round pick for the Pats, reduced his salary from his Bengals days, and got 3 years out of him before he retired.
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:15 pm
Man, we beat KC & and MAYBE just Maybe make the playoffs…getting DMAC and Ford back;
We could be dangerousss
-Nine lives this year
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:16 pm
We have 417 rushing attempts and 468 passing attempts this season, and those numbers are even more different when Palmer is here.
Like I said, if Hue and Palmer stay, we will be in the top 10 in passing attempts in 2012.
Book that.
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:18 pm
Penalties. Not taking the FG to put the Raiders up by three scores in the Texans game. Not going for two in the last game. Hue likes to get cute on third and short constantly. Hue is not a disciplined guy. The Raiders are an undisciplined team.
It doesn’t matter who the defensive coordinator is if the Raiders are breaking penalty records and the Head Coach can’t count to 14.
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:19 pm
It seems simple to me, the best offenses have pedestrain RB’s they cycle in, and the worst offenses have some of the best RB’s.
Tells you the impact a star RB has right there.
Sure you want to have great players at as many positions as possible, but you can get by (obviously) with an average RB, but not so with the other parts of the offense.
Just my two cents, and I think the draft as of late (first RB drafted last year went #29, this year may not even have a first-rounder) shows the devaluing of the RB in the NFL.
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:20 pm
And they were smart enough to know when he wasn’t worth keeping.
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ingraham?
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:21 pm
Thats a result of the offense they run.
As a run first team we NEED DMC. Our team is built on ball control and defense right now.
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And that’s why the Raiders lose. They want to be a run-first team built on ball control, but McFadden is constantly injured. Hard to lean on the run game when the guy who allows you to do that is never there.
Built on defense? The defense is awful. Maybe if the Raiders purge the salaries of players who don’t live up to their contracts (two interior defensive linemen who can’t stop the run, a running back who is never healthy, below-average play at MLB, CB, and FS – which accounts for roughly $30 million) the defense AND offense can both improve, giving the Raiders a shot at beating teams like the Patriots, Ravens, and Steelers.
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:22 pm
When you look at the top 10 rushers every season, you have damn near as many 5th, 6th and undrafted round guys as you have 1st rounders.
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:22 pm
I care more about what is best for the A’s organization and their future here in the Bay Area!
I don’t care what is best for the City of Oakland!
If San Jose is a better city for the A’s to be stable and successful and be able to spend money, than I’m for them moving. I just want them to stay in the Bay Area. Just as long as they get a new stadium here in the Bay.
BTW, SJ is a city without a major sports franchise besides the Sharks. They are hungry for another pro sports team and they will have plenty of fans in SJ. Most Giants fans live in the Peninsula, San Mateo County and in SF.
The fans in the South Bay will support whichever pro sports theam they get there.
If the A’s move there, trust me, they will pack and sell out that 37k ballpark, because the South Bay fans will jump on the bandwagon of going to a brand spanking new ballpark and A’s fans in the East Bay will still go to games and the big corporate big wigs in Silicon Valley will there as well.
I live in Pleasanton, so I don’t mind driving to SJ. For me it’s the same distance as going to Oakland.
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I could not disagree with this more. First off, of course Reinsdorff is going to go along with Wolff. They have known each other for forty years. And Reinsdorff stands to benefit by MLB rescinding territorial rights. He can launch major marketing on the North side. Do you think the other 30 owners are going to go along with that? One of the first things you get buying any franchise is a territory whether it is a coffee shop, McDonalds or NFL team. And do you really think Cub fan is going to just become White Sucks fan? Which is the next point.
I am not a SF Giant fan. In fact I hate them. But they have plenty of fans in San Ho, they are cultivating that territory, they have a farm team there, they play an exciting brand of winning baseball and they just won a world championship. As I have said repeatedly, if what you are saying is true, then Amy Trask and Mark Davis could just pick up the Raiders and move them to Overland Park, Kansas or Westminster, Colorado, and generations of Cheat or Bunco fans would just quit their allegiances and become staunch Raider fans. Something tells me that is not going to happen.
The A’s were 4 games away from playing for a World Championship in 2006 when Fisher and Wolff bought the team. They have run the franchise right into the ground. What is best for the A’s franchise is for them to sell.
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:22 pm
438. DMC is the Oakland O. Without him we’re mortal
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:23 pm
ingraham?
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Oh, I thought you were referring to Reggie Bush.
Ingram, on the other hand, was the second of two first round picks, on a team that is set on defense and offense. A luxury pick. A good team can afford a luxury pick.
The Raiders? Not a good team yet.
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:23 pm
It seems simple to me, the best offenses have pedestrain RB’s they cycle in, and the worst offenses have some of the best RB’s.
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the game is ever evolving, Balt might go to the SB and their offense is run heavy don’t know where Ray Rice was found but doesn’t mean he isn’t a 1st round talent. Dallas came alive when Murray got hot. Wash been much better now that Helu is doing well. Texans run heavy team. Bears run heavy. You can win with a good running game, the best teams just happen to have elite qb’s Rodgers, Brees, Brady, Big Ben…
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:23 pm
The only shot we have to beat the Patriots, Ravens or Steelers is from having elite play from the QB position.
You want to run the ball and play decent defense and beat the Seahawks and Chargers fine.
You want to beat the big-boys, you need a big-boy RB.
The Steelers and Ravens eat up elite RB’s and spit them out, and have done so for about 10 years running.
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:24 pm
# Just Fire Baby Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:10 pm
How many playoff games have CJ2K, MJD, Steven Jackson and Adrian Peterson won over the years?
And it is clear that if Hue and CP3 stay, we are going to try to be more like the Pats offense than the Jets offense, chucking it a ton.
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Personally, if I had a marquee Q, who in his last game completed almost 80% of his passes in a game the team had to win, I would be chucking it a ton too.
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:25 pm
Ray Rice was a 2nd rounder. DeMarco Murray a 4th rounder.
Ray Rice has had some bad playoff games, and his production drops massively in the playoffs.
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:26 pm
JFB, WIGGLE defeats you.
Book this.
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:26 pm
Also, the guaranteed money on Ingram’s 4-year, $7 million contract is $2 million less than McFadden is making for his 6 games this season.
Ingram’s contract isn’t preventing the Saints from adding anyone.
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:27 pm
JFB, WIGGLE defeats you.
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No chance in hell
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:29 pm
DeMarco Murray is a bummer situation.
Followed the kid when he played HS in Vegas, and could never stay healthy at OU, effected his draft stock, than was looking great for two months, and an another injury popped up.
Same type of talent as McFadden, only the Cowboys got him in the 4th round not 4th overall.
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:31 pm
WIGGLE beats you with two guys getting 0’s.
If he beats you, you have to promise to stop ending all your posts with Book it.
Deal?
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:32 pm
Trade McFadden?
Why, so we can get a 3rd round pick that may or may not pan out? No team is going to trade us great value for a RB coming off an injury. Probably get even less of an offer.
But the risk in keeping McFadden and giving him another chance is minimal, and the reward is substantial if he does return to the RB we had last year and the first half of this year.
You have to give players with special talent the chance to overcome the injury problems. You win big if they do, but if you trade them and then watch them overcome those problems with another team, it is a disaster (see C. Woodson).
You never know, McFadden could bounce back from this and never have a serious injury again. he never had problems in college, so it is possible. I’d take that chance and see what materializes over the next couple of years before I would cut him loose.
At the same time, the team has to hedge their bets and have a quality RB, like Bush, sitting there just in case.
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:36 pm
Twinkle toes can’t stay healthy.
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:37 pm
Thec…what’s up brother?
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:43 pm
RAIDERS—27 PODUNKIANS—24
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:43 pm
Dakota Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:32 pm
Trade McFadden?
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“You don’t get rid of good players, you go out and get good players” Al Davis. MCFadden really does not have that much mileage on him. And as Dakota says, for what we would get for him, it is not worth it to trade him.
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:43 pm
If he beats you, you have to promise to stop ending all your posts with Book it.
Deal?
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Sounds like a one-sided deal, but I am game.
And really, “all my posts”? I doubt it is even 10% of them.
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:46 pm
Book this.
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:47 pm
I promise to stop letting you know how dumb you are.
Book that.
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:48 pm
But the risk in keeping McFadden and giving him another chance is minimal, and the reward is substantial if he does return to the RB we had last year and the first half of this year.
You have to give players with special talent the chance to overcome the injury problems. You win big if they do, but if you trade them and then watch them overcome those problems with another team, it is a disaster (see C. Woodson).
You never know, McFadden could bounce back from this and never have a serious injury again. he never had problems in college, so it is possible. I’d take that chance and see what materializes over the next couple of years before I would cut him loose.
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YES. This, absolutely, exactly, 100%.
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:49 pm
“You don’t get rid of good players, you go out and get good players” Al Davis.”
so said the man that traded one of the best left tackles in the game for the QB, Mr. Schraeder.
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:49 pm
So why do you post under some other persons name? That is incredibly lame.
Maybe I will start posting under Ernest Hemingway, or Mike Lupica moving forward.
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:50 pm
448.Just Fire Baby Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:22 pm
When you look at the top 10 rushers every season, you have damn near as many 5th, 6th and undrafted round guys as you have 1st rounders.
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Well, it is certainly now a passing league. If you have a great QB and good WRs you will win.
There is much less of a focus on running the ball. Third and a long 2 is now somehow a passing situation.
FBs are gone, and TEs are just WRs who couldn’t stop going to McDonalds after high school.
But wouldn’t be something to have a good QB like Palmer, some good-young WRs like Ford and Moore, and add to it a running game that was special. To do that you need McFadden. Bush is nice, but limited. 4th, 5th 6th rounders can get you some yards, but not many of them turn into great backs.
I’d take my chances keeping McFadden, but planning for him not being here by signing a decent RB or keeping Bush, and then hope for the best. Worst case you have the type of offense you would have had had you given up on McFadden. Best case you have something special. A team that can run and throw, playing against defenses that are now more geared towards stopping the pass.
People need to back off and let it play out. Nothing to be gained by panicking and dropping a talented player like McFadden for the minimal value we would get in return right now.
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:52 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:13 pm
Who are the two high-picks at RB for the Patriots?
That dude they just cut this offseason, Maroney?
Corey Dillon is MY TYPE OF EXAMPLE. Cost a 2nd round pick for the Pats, reduced his salary from his Bengals days, and got 3 years out of him before he retired.
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They just used 2 2nd rounders on RBs..
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:53 pm
People need to back off and let it play out. Nothing to be gained by panicking and dropping a talented player
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My thoughts exactly on our young MLB, who at this stage in his career is a better MLB, than McFadden was a RB.
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:54 pm
Raiders need to kep Mr. McFadden & Mr. Heyward-Bey, unless we get a 1st round pick in return for DMAC or a 2nd round pick for DHB.
FA I would like to see the Raiders pick up OG, Nicks from New Orleans & WR, Reggie Wayne from Indy.
Unless we trade away players, we will have limited opportunity tog et an impact player in the draft.
I wished we could have our 1st round pick to draft Blackmon from OSU, even though we still would have had to move up.
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:55 pm
Much as I’ve been advocating for Spagnuolo for months now, the thought of Mike Nolan as DC and him bringing Paul Soliai along as NT from Miami is starting to edge ahead.
Get a NT and the personnel has to have almost no turnover:
DEs: Seymour, Houston, Bryant, Kelly
NT: Soliai, Henderson (no harm in bringing Hendu back for one more round in this case he’d only be needed for 10-15 snaps a game)
OLBs: Wimbley, Shaughnessy, Moss, Scott
ILBs: RoMac (if he’s going to succeed, this is how it will be), Curry, draft/sign some depth
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:55 pm
Raiders 23 Queefs 10
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:55 pm
We dont need any WRs.. We just need the ones we have to stay healthy. Welp, maybe we should trade them…
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:55 pm
You are right. It’s not as cool as Just Fire Baby. What does that mean again exactly?
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:56 pm
They just used 2 2nd rounders on RBs..
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Shane Vereen 2nd round, Ridley 3rd round.
And I am all for 2nd and 3rd rounders on RB. They will make less than a million a year, and you run them into the ground.
When they hit FA and want the big bucks, you let them go, and go hit the middle rounds for their replacement again.
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:56 pm
I think it’s important to give this defensive personnel group another chance with better coaching because our draft cabinet is so bare
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:58 pm
SilverNBlackPA Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:55 pm
Much as I’ve been advocating for Spagnuolo for months now, the thought of Mike Nolan as DC and him bringing Paul Soliai along as NT from Miami is starting to edge ahead.
Get a NT and the personnel has to have almost no turnover:
DEs: Seymour, Houston, Bryant, Kelly
NT: Soliai, Henderson (no harm in bringing Hendu back for one more round in this case he’d only be needed for 10-15 snaps a game)
OLBs: Wimbley, Shaughnessy, Moss, Scott
ILBs: RoMac (if he’s going to succeed, this is how it will be), Curry, draft/sign some depth
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The thought of Shaugnessy, Moss & Scott as OLBs just made me vomit a little.
Hendu wants nothing to do with a 3-4.
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:58 pm
with our 3rd [comp], 4th [comp], 5th & 6th round picks we need to draft LBs & LBs & more LBs.
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:58 pm
“Fire” is the act of gambling in different forms.
-Did you “fire” on the Raiders, how much did you “fire” on them, etc.
I guess you didn’t assume your handles literary skills now did we?
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:58 pm
bare?
all we have are condiments in in our draft cup[board].
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:59 pm
Your name is lame.
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:59 pm
The thought of Shaugnessy, Moss & Scott as OLBs just made me vomit a little.
Hendu wants nothing to do with a 3-4.
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Moss and Scott would be backups so who cares? Replace them with other guys, even, I don’t care. Shaughnessy could excel as a 3-4 OLB, I promise you.
You’re privy to Henderson’s thinking, by the way? Cool. You his agent or cousin or something?
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:01 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:56 pm
They just used 2 2nd rounders on RBs..
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Shane Vereen 2nd round, Ridley 3rd round.
And I am all for 2nd and 3rd rounders on RB. They will make less than a million a year, and you run them into the ground.
When they hit FA and want the big bucks, you let them go, and go hit the middle rounds for their replacement again.
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Man, its amazing that your not a GM already.
*heavy sarcasm*
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:01 pm
I don’t think we will get more than one compensatory pick, and that will be for Nnamdi.
We lost Miller but signed Boss, so nothing there and why would we get a draft pick for Gallery, when he barely played half his games the last two years?
Are the Redskins going to gain a pick for losing Stephon Heyer? Because he actually started more games the last two years than Bob did for us.
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:02 pm
SilverNBlackPA Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:59 pm
The thought of Shaugnessy, Moss & Scott as OLBs just made me vomit a little.
Hendu wants nothing to do with a 3-4.
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Moss and Scott would be backups so who cares? Replace them with other guys, even, I don’t care. Shaughnessy could excel as a 3-4 OLB, I promise you.
You’re privy to Henderson’s thinking, by the way? Cool. You his agent or cousin or something?
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Im privy to him saying hea wanted nothing to do with a 3-4 when the Jags cut him, yes.
Anything else?
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:02 pm
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:59 pm
Your name is lame.
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This exchange is about to descend into calling each other doo-doo brains at any moment.
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:02 pm
474.Just Fire Baby Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:53 pm
People need to back off and let it play out. Nothing to be gained by panicking and dropping a talented player
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My thoughts exactly on our young MLB, who at this stage in his career is a better MLB, than McFadden was a RB.
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I wish that were the same situation. You can take a chance on a player like McFadden who has the talent and work ethic to get the job done (or even on a guy like DHB, who may not have the talent, but has the work ethic), and see how it pans out. But a guy like McClain isn’t failing because of injuries or some other thing out of his control. McClain is failing because he doesn’t take his job seriously.
This is Russell all over again. People do not change their personalities, or if they do it is a very rare thing. Russell was a lazy pos in college, and guess what, that is what he was in the NFL. McClain is the same thing. His only job is to stay in shape and play a game, and stay out of trouble…..fail, fail, fail. What, are you waiting for the guy who blows off the media (just like Russell by the way) and gets into off the field trouble (just like Russell) to suddenly have an epiphany and change his ways? lol Come on, that only happens in the movies.
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:02 pm
Not trying to be a GM, but just trying to show YOU PEOPLE what ACTUAL successful NFL GM’s are doing, but ya’ll don’t want to listen.
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:03 pm
Im privy to him saying hea wanted nothing to do with a 3-4 when the Jags cut him, yes.
Anything else?
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Yes, a link would be nice.
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:05 pm
I liked you better when you were Vegas Raider.
It just doesn’t seem right, a high roller like yourself living in such a one horse town.
What happened?
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:06 pm
Henderson is a terrible fit for a 3-4 NT at this point in his career.
Shaughnessy as a 3-4 OLB would be ill advised.
The Raiders are still lacking the key ingredients to making a 3-4 work. Elite 3-4 DC, NT, and game-changer at OLB (not Kamerion Wimbley). There’s no guarantee they’ll be able to acquire any of those pieces.
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:06 pm
players I would like to see traded:
McClain tops the list, followed by any three below
Seymour,
Schilens or Murphy (use to combine 5th & 6th to move into 4th or 3rd round),
Huff,
Routt,(contract will probably prevent this),
Palmer or Pryor if we get a 1st rounder,
Lechler & Janokwosk package only for a 1st round pick,
Johnson,
I’m only listing players I think have trade value,
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:07 pm
Henderson is a terrible fit for a 3-4 NT at this point in his career.
Shaughnessy as a 3-4 OLB would be ill advised.
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All Henderson would have to do is be fat and hold his ground 10 snaps a game to give Soliai or Franklin or whoever a breather sometimes. He can do that. And if not, get someone else. Again, just a backup position.
I have no idea why people seem to think Shaughnessy couldn’t excel as a 3-4 OLB. He could become a pass rushing terror.
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:07 pm
Carl Weathers Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 10:33 am
Dear Hue,
Please outscore the opposition for the next 2 games and get us in to the playoffs. Even if we were to go one and out, we can take our lumps and bounce back next year with a new DC and upgraded roster.
Fire Chuck B. I love this quote from the current post:
“We only had one target,” Bresnahan said. Johnson caught nine passes for 214 yards and two touchdowns.
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“We only had one target”
Pure and absolute genious.
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:08 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
Raiders also have work to do on offense.
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You mean 3 points in the second half of the Detroit game isn’t good enough for you? lol I was saying the same thing the other day.
We all know how awful the defense is. But if the Raiders offense could have even managed even two dam FGs in the second half, they would’ve won the game. The offense has a disturbing habit of disappearing for long stretches at a time, particularly in the second half of games.
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:08 pm
I would rather live in ABQ than Las Vegas, no BS.
Weather, job market, housing market, and people are an upgrade.
Just don’t get to share elevators with Porn Stars anymore.
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:09 pm
SilverNBlackPA Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:03 pm
Im privy to him saying hea wanted nothing to do with a 3-4 when the Jags cut him, yes.
Anything else?
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Yes, a link would be nice.
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Google it. Im at work.
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:09 pm
Vegas,
Just ignore the Dr. Buffoon. He contributes nothing and is just here looking to fight and does not have the ability to enter into an actual debate. Once he is in a corner he starts name-calling and will eventually change his handle to try and erase his past embarrassments….right Billpickel?
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:10 pm
#489
Just fire I agree with you, I do think we will only get one compensatory pick, that being for Mr. Asomugha (thankfully he has had 3-4 picks) so we should get it at the end of the 3rd round.
I actually think we might get a 4th or 5th round compensatory pick for LB, Mr. Howard.
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:10 pm
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:29 am
If the Raiders don’t beat KC tomorrow, they don’t deserve to be in the playoffs.
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Thats because they wont be in the playoffs
Pathetic 2nd half of season.
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:10 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
I would rather live in ABQ than Las Vegas, no BS.
Weather, job market, housing market, and people are an upgrade.
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Plus, Breaking Bad is set and filmed there!!!
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:11 pm
Henderson cant stay healthy on the limites snap count hes on now, but hes supposed to be our 3-4 NT… Wow.
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:12 pm
Dakota Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:32 pm
Trade McFadden?
Why, so we can get a 3rd round pick that may or may not pan out? No team is going to trade us great value for a RB coming off an injury. Probably get even less of an offer.
But the risk in keeping McFadden and giving him another chance is minimal, and the reward is substantial if he does return to the RB we had last year and the first half of this year.
You have to give players with special talent the chance to overcome the injury problems. You win big if they do, but if you trade them and then watch them overcome those problems with another team, it is a disaster (see C. Woodson).
You never know, McFadden could bounce back from this and never have a serious injury again. he never had problems in college, so it is possible. I’d take that chance and see what materializes over the next couple of years before I would cut him loose.
At the same time, the team has to hedge their bets and have a quality RB, like Bush, sitting there just in case.
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This is really the only argument for keeping McFadden. Personally, I think it’s only worth trading him if the Raiders can get a 2nd round pick or higher.
If they can’t? The Raiders need to restructure him. The “risk” in keeping him is that his $5 million in 2012 will impede the Raiders from making necessary offseason moves.
Given the nature of McFadden’s injuries, I doubt he overcomes them. It’s a shame, because he didn’t have foot problems in college. But just one severe foot injury can cause lingering problems for the rest of a player’s career. It’s possible that he had these problems in college and played through them, thereby exacerbating them, but one would think this would show up during his physical.
Regardless, re-signing Michael Bush and drafting another RB in the mid-to-late rounds needs to be part of the Raiders’ plans going forward.
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:12 pm
Raiders will have the 97th overall pick with the Nnamdi compensatory pick; which in my opinion is actually the beginning of the 4th round rather than the end of the third, but I’m sure the agents do not see it that way.
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:13 pm
DeuceDeuce Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:11 pm
Henderson cant stay healthy on the limites snap count hes on now, but hes supposed to be our 3-4 NT… Wow.
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I was talking about 1) a backup position and 2) how to transition to a 3-4 and still keep most of the current roster. If Hendu wants nothing to do with the job, fine. Purely theoretical. Jesus, reading comprehension is not your strong suit is it?
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:15 pm
SilverNBlackPA Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:13 pm
DeuceDeuce Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:11 pm
Henderson cant stay healthy on the limites snap count hes on now, but hes supposed to be our 3-4 NT… Wow.
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I was talking about 1) a backup position and 2) how to transition to a 3-4 and still keep most of the current roster. If Hendu wants nothing to do with the job, fine. Purely theoretical. Jesus, reading comprehension is not your strong suit is it?
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My name isnt Jesus.
Oh, now its theoretical. OK. I didnt see your disclaimer that read “the following is my opinion of what should happen, but if im shown its not possible, its purely theoretical”
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:15 pm
RaidingTexas Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:08 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
Raiders also have work to do on offense.
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You mean 3 points in the second half of the Detroit game isn’t good enough for you? lol I was saying the same thing the other day.
We all know how awful the defense is. But if the Raiders offense could have even managed even two dam FGs in the second half, they would’ve won the game. The offense has a disturbing habit of disappearing for long stretches at a time, particularly in the second half of games.
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Agreed. The offense gets a pass because they can put up points, but they need to improve at putting games away just as much as the defense does.
Better depth at RB and WR, improvement at RT (either in-house or through the draft), and a full offseason for Palmer should help.
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:16 pm
I actually think we might get a 4th or 5th round compensatory pick for LB, Mr. Howard.
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Good point, could be true.
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:16 pm
483.RaiderRetribution Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:58 pm
with our 3rd [comp], 4th [comp], 5th & 6th round picks we need to draft LBs & LBs & more LBs.
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I say draft two LB’s out of those picks and a strong DT/NT type who can clog running lanes and take up space, who plays with a low pad level and with consistent leverage!
Then also draft a backup Center to Wiz who can also play RG and maybe another RB is we lose Bush!
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:16 pm
Dakotex, CONTRIBUTES??? Don’t make me laugh you silly hick. By the way I kicked your A$$ twice this year in FF to keep you out of the playoffs.
GO WIGGLE!
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:17 pm
We should have never let Howard go in the first place.
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:18 pm
Chucky B Baby is fired up. The defense unit will play like they want some ass against the chiefs. All Chuck has to do is bend’em over and let the D unit pound it home.
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:19 pm
D Determination Defense Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:18 pm
Chucky B Baby is fired up. The defense unit will play like they want some ass against the chiefs. All Chuck has to do is bend’em over and let the D unit pound it home.
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Oh thats it?? Sucks it took 15 weeks to figure that out!!!………………………….
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:19 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:06 pm
Henderson is a terrible fit for a 3-4 NT at this point in his career.
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Henderson is most likely done as an NFL player. He really has not played very well for us. He is a complete liability in the passing game, (even tho he knocked a few balls down). The second he rolls onto the field, the opponent has to think pass, which they do, which negates him.
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:19 pm
Yeah I guess 14 or 17 point or 21 point leads going into half time or the 4th quarter is just not good enough huh? Sheesh.
Load up on defense in draft and free agency and add a backup Center/RG or RT and maybe add a backup RB if Bush is not signed.
Hire GM and a REAL D-COORDINATOR first and foremost though.
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:19 pm
I have no idea why people seem to think Shaughnessy couldn’t excel as a 3-4 OLB. He could become a pass rushing terror.
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He COULD, but he isn’t quite a pass-rushing terror at his natural position of 4-3 (though he is a very good, well-rounded young player), so I’m not sure that standing him up and having him learn a new style of play is going to do him any favors.
Best case scenario for Shaughnessy is the Raiders stick to a 4-3 and he gets his shot as starting LDE.
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:19 pm
Oh, now its theoretical. OK. I didnt see your disclaimer that read “the following is my opinion of what should happen, but if im shown its not possible, its purely theoretical”
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If you need everything in your life spelled out in black and white that much and can’t infer anything, I pity you.
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:20 pm
crazy potential scenario in AFC West;
KC sweeps Oakland (God forbid) & Denver;
Denver also loses in Buffalo,
San Diego beats Detroit,
Raiders defeat San Diego
would mean all teams finish
8-8;
bad news that would mean the Kansas City Chiefs, who started the season 0-3 and whose first two victories were against [then] non victorius, teams Minnesota & Indianaoplis would win the division.
and unless both New YOrk & Cincinnati lose last two we would be out of the wild card.
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:20 pm
No way Hendu can play in a 3-4 at this point of his career. He may not even make through training camp next next year.
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:22 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
If they can’t? The Raiders need to restructure him. The “risk” in keeping him is that his $5 million in 2012 will impede the Raiders from making necessary offseason moves.
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It’s actually a $6.7 million cap hit.
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/oakland-raiders/darren-mcfadden/
His $8.1 million this year was very detrimental to the team given that he played less than half the season.
He’s made $100,000 per rushing attempt in his career so far. That is classic bad Raiders economics.
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:22 pm
SilverNBlackPA Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:19 pm
Oh, now its theoretical. OK. I didnt see your disclaimer that read “the following is my opinion of what should happen, but if im shown its not possible, its purely theoretical”
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If you need everything in your life spelled out in black and white that much and can’t infer anything, I pity you.
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What will I do with my life now that I know you pity me?…Nothing will ever be the same.
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:23 pm
I actually think Shauny is athletic enough to play OLB in a 3-4.
He showed in the preaseason in that Niner game that he can drop back into coverage and make play for an INT.
The key is whether or not he can open up the hips consistently and move laterally.
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:23 pm
98 fckng yards not only was pitiful, it took away a sure thing because all the teams we needed to lose lost. We should have been right where we needed to be, but fck that.
98 fckng yards, pa-the-tic!
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:23 pm
Should Raiders stick to a 4-3;
I see starting DL being
FA DE (or a steal in the draft)
DTs Bryant & Houston
other DE Shaughnessy.
something tells me Seymour is going to retire as is Henderson;
Kelley gets traded.
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:24 pm
515.Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:16 pm
Dakotex, CONTRIBUTES??? Don’t make me laugh you silly hick. By the way I kicked your A$$ twice this year in FF to keep you out of the playoffs.
GO WIGGLE!
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See how sad this is? Like trying to communicate with a 2nd grader.
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:24 pm
DKnight007 Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:23 pm
I actually think Shauny is athletic enough to play OLB in a 3-4.
He showed in the preaseason in that Niner game that he can drop back into coverage and make play for an INT.
The key is whether or not he can open up the hips consistently and move laterally.
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Doesnt look like he can.
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:25 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:23 pm
Should Raiders stick to a 4-3;
I see starting DL being
FA DE (or a steal in the draft)
DTs Bryant & Houston
other DE Shaughnessy.
something tells me Seymour is going to retire as is Henderson;
Kelley gets traded.
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Dude, if Seymour & Henderson retire.. Theres no way were trading Kelly. Come on.
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:27 pm
529.RaiderRetribution Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:23 pm
Should Raiders stick to a 4-3;
I see starting DL being
FA DE (or a steal in the draft)
DTs Bryant & Houston
other DE Shaughnessy.
something tells me Seymour is going to retire as is Henderson;
Kelley gets traded.
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I think Hendu is done. I think Seymour Butts comes back for one more year and Raiders try and trade Kelly for a 3rd rounder and then look to sign a FA DT/NT like Solial or Franklin.
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:27 pm
431.McFadden working, hoping to return (The National Football Post) : Sharefuls NFL Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:05 pm
[...] InsideBayArea.com reports that McFadden, who was informed by Dr. Robert Anderson last week that the foot injury has not completely healed, was told that he would have to play in pain if he comes back this season. [...]
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This exact same thing could have been said to Bo Jackson after his last carry vs Cincy. Could be said to anyone who gets injured and shouldn’t be out on the field until they are 100%.
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:28 pm
Now everyone wants to trade Kelly? Lol…this place is funny.
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:28 pm
Dakotex, you better find a new bandwagon to jump on because the Fakers are going to $uck this year.
Go Raiders!
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:28 pm
Raiders biggest weakness whether a 3-4 or remaining a 4-3 is will be linebacker, unless we make some changes;
oh and should we lose to Kansas City be eliminated from the playoffs and Mr. Wimbley have another 3-4 sack gameat the end of the season against San Diego; trade his ass to the Toronto Argonauts or Montreal Allouettes.
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:29 pm
I don’t want to trade him, I see him being traded.
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:30 pm
528.RaiderCrunch Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:23 pm
98 fckng yards not only was pitiful, it took away a sure thing because all the teams we needed to lose lost. We should have been right where we needed to be, but fck that.
98 fckng yards, pa-the-tic!
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I know….ridiculous huh?
Even worse, all Huey and Chuck B have to say is the predictable crap…..”we didn’t execute”?
Ugh…how about taking some responsibility Chuck B and say yeah, that was on me like it was on me in the Buffalo, 2nd Denver game, Miami games!
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:31 pm
I hope Huey is a better coach than he is a public speaker.
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:32 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:29 pm
I don’t want to trade him, I see him being traded.
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OK, explain how and why please?
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:32 pm
Depends what the plan is if they trade Kelly or not. If they do, they need to find a better replacement like Solial or Franklin.
The Raiders also need to add at least two more picks in this draft, preferably two 3rd rounders, a 2nd and a 3rd or a 3rd and a 4th.
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:33 pm
I simply see the Raiders getting real young on the front seven, getting more spped.
I hope Mr. Kelley remains a Raider, I actually think moving Mr. Houston inside would be a positive for us; we also need to keep Mr. Bryant that would be mean rotation inside.
We still need DEs, though we are thin. Raiders need to see what Mr. Brodine brings to the table in a real game.
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:37 pm
I apologize if I have come off as rude to anyone. Im just passing on my opinion, but please realize that you are just pssing on your opinion also. And in doing that you have to be able to provide some data/stats to back it up.
We all should be open to being wrong.
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:37 pm
Why?
Answer: new GM
he will want a first round selection, Mr. Kelley is one of ourt best assets; we will need to package a deal to get into the first round.
Our 1st & 2nd in 2013 are tied up for Palmer; we will have to offer a premier player or two to get into the first round.
We can’t trade any compensatory picks we might get.
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:38 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:29 pm
I don’t want to trade him, I see him being traded.
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Nobody else in the league wants him. Thats why he was an undrafted FA. And thats why people were amazed when he got paid. I think a much more likely scenario is that he gets cut.
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:39 pm
Im sorry, but were not trading anything on our roster to get into the 1st round.
There isnt 1 player that is going to make that big of an impact available in any round.
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:39 pm
Forrest Hump Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:38 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:29 pm
I don’t want to trade him, I see him being traded.
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Nobody else in the league wants him. Thats why he was an undrafted FA. And thats why people were amazed when he got paid. I think a much more likely scenario is that he gets cut.
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Bill Bellichik wasnt amazed. He said Kelly could be one of the best DL in the NFL.
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:40 pm
If the Raiders make a run at any free agent, it needs to be Mario Williams. In terms of defensive free agents, there is no other player available who could make an immediate impact and be a game-changer. I know many of you think the Raiders won’t have a shot at him. The Texans might franchise tag him, but their defense has played VERY well without Williams. The kid Nick Reed is a find, and Connor Barwin has had a very good season.
If the Raiders move to a 3-4, Paul Soliai should be in play. But the Raiders would still need a player on the defensive side the ball who can change the complexion of games.
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:41 pm
TK is a good pass rusher.
Has never been effective at stopping the run. Hell, he wasn’t very effective at rushing the passer either until the Raiders kicked Seymour inside.
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:42 pm
528.RaiderCrunch Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:23 pm
98 fckng yards not only was pitiful, it took away a sure thing because all the teams we needed to lose lost. We should have been right where we needed to be, but fck that.
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I have been on Hue Jackson watch since week four of the season. As I wrote three weeks ago there is an old expression in sports, either you are getting better, or you are getting worse. Nothing stays the same. Right now, Kansas Sh**y lost their starting Q, lost their starting RB, their Pro Bowl FS, fired their coach, and they just beat the undefeated World Champion and are in the hunt. Dungver was left for dead, put in a guy with no hope, and now they are LEADING the division. The Dischargers also had NO HOPE, but out of nowhere they have won three in a row all of them beatdowns of their opponents, including an annihilation of a 10-4 division leading Ravens team.
Then there is us. We had control of everything. Now we control nothing. Last week we actually played very well. The two games before were putrid. My point is that 98 yard drive was piss in the ocean compared to what has come the weeks before. If this team does not take the division, heads need to roll.
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:43 pm
ahhh… The Mario Williams talk.
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:43 pm
DeuceDeuce Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:39 pm
Forrest Hump Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:38 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:29 pm
I don’t want to trade him, I see him being traded.
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Nobody else in the league wants him. Thats why he was an undrafted FA. And thats why people were amazed when he got paid. I think a much more likely scenario is that he gets cut.
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Bill Bellichik wasnt amazed. He said Kelly could be one of the best DL in the NFL.
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Let Belicheat pick him up when we cut him then. He can go poison a different locker room.
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:43 pm
Now T Kelly is a locker room cancer? lol comedy.
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:44 pm
536.Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:28 pm
Dakotex, you better find a new bandwagon to jump on because the Fakers are going to $uck this year.
Go Raiders!
You know what? Do you like it when other fans call the Raider Faders, or Traders? I didn’t think so…and if you don’t care, then you need to go jump on another bandwagon!
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:45 pm
I think our starting defensive personnel is ok, but our defensive coaching is downright offensive. Bring in a top flight DC and give him autonomy. Let Hue handle the offense and we will be in good shape.
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:46 pm
# YoungAmerican Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:41 pm
TK is a good pass rusher.
Has never been effective at stopping the run. Hell, he wasn’t very effective at rushing the passer either until the Raiders kicked Seymour inside.
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TK is a pro bowl defensive tackle. It is not his job to stop the run. The top tacklers year and in and year out in the NFL are ILB’s. It is the LB’s job to stop the run. Our guys do not do that. If what you are saying had merit someone would have picked up Kirk Morrison. No one did. If we dropped McClain like a dirty needle, no one would touch it.
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:47 pm
DeuceDeuce Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:43 pm
Now T Kelly is a locker room cancer? lol comedy.
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I dont know this as a certainty, I’ve just always felt like the guy is bad in the locker room. I bet he leads the league in jumping offsides since he’s been in the NFL. Constantly getting penalties. That shows a lack of repsect for teammates, a selfish attitude, and a lack of accountability. I do know for a FACT that we’ve never won more than 8 games in a season since he’s been here. Cant say he’s the problem, but cant say he’s been part of any solution either.
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:49 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:46 pm
# YoungAmerican Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:41 pm
TK is a good pass rusher.
Has never been effective at stopping the run. Hell, he wasn’t very effective at rushing the passer either until the Raiders kicked Seymour inside.
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TK is a pro bowl defensive tackle. It is not his job to stop the run. The top tacklers year and in and year out in the NFL are ILB’s. It is the LB’s job to stop the run. Our guys do not do that. If what you are saying had merit someone would have picked up Kirk Morrison. No one did. If we dropped McClain like a dirty needle, no one would touch it
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Someone would pick up McClain in heartbeat. He is 22. He wouldnt last 5 minutes in free agency.
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:49 pm
Our leading tackler is Tyvon Branch. Branch has led our team in tackles the last couple of years. The only team this year to have a safety leading the team in tackles is Indian-crapolis. What does that tell you?
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:51 pm
Spoken like a Faker fan.
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:52 pm
One could argue we have more 3-4 personnel than 4-3. Maybe thats our problem.
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:53 pm
TK is a pro bowl defensive tackle. It is not his job to stop the run. The top tacklers year and in and year out in the NFL are ILB’s. It is the LB’s job to stop the run. Our guys do not do that. If what you are saying had merit someone would have picked up Kirk Morrison. No one did. If we dropped McClain like a dirty needle, no one would touch it.
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ILBs rack up tackles because defensive linemen occupy gaps and allow the LBs to come in and clean up. TK and Richard Seymour leave their gaps, shed blockers, and allow offensive linemen to get to the second level.
McClain’s play is bad, and it’s made worse by the fact that blockers are running free to take on the Raiders’ back seven.
I’d love to believe that the way TK plays is the product of Waufle’s scheme, but he has never played any other way.
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:54 pm
Someone would pick up McClain in heartbeat. He is 22. He wouldnt last 5 minutes in free agency.
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Maybe. But the team reps would have to go sign him dressed in body armour for fear of being shot. Teams are tired of underachievers who seem to be in trouble particularly with guns.
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:54 pm
DeuceDeuce Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:52 pm
One could argue we have more 3-4 personnel than 4-3. Maybe thats our problem.
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Totally agree. All we need is a NT.
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:55 pm
McClain’s play is bad, and it’s made worse by the fact that blockers are running free to take on the Raiders’ back seven.
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If this were true, Kirk Morrison would be starting in the NFL right now. Something tells me if we put Patrick Willis or London Fletcher beyond Kelly and Seymour, we would be just fine.
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:55 pm
Forrest Hump Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:54 pm
DeuceDeuce Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:52 pm
One could argue we have more 3-4 personnel than 4-3. Maybe thats our problem.
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Totally agree. All we need is a NT.
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Well, that and about 3 or 4 more LBs.. And Mike Nolan.
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:56 pm
He’s had one incident. They never found the gun in question. No felony charges. Cmon man thats silly talk. Teams would scoop him up on potential alone.
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:58 pm
McClain’s play is bad, and it’s made worse by the fact that blockers are running free to take on the Raiders’ back seven.
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If this were true, Kirk Morrison would be starting in the NFL right now. Something tells me if we put Patrick Willis or London Fletcher beyond Kelly and Seymour, we would be just fine.
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Yep, because those guys have been in the league for 5+ years and have the game at this level figured out. Rolando hasnt been given that much time yet.
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:58 pm
If this were true, Kirk Morrison would be starting in the NFL right now. Something tells me if we put Patrick Willis or London Fletcher beyond Kelly and Seymour, we would be just fine.
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Willis and Fletcher would make things slightly better, but you still don’t see them with an OG or FB in their face every single play. In their systems, they have one gap to occupy, and they fill it. The Raiders leave multiple gaps open on every single running play. Good (and even average) cutback runners have had their way with the Raiders’ defense for YEARS. Long before Waufle.
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:59 pm
Thing with the Raiders is, it doesn;t matter as much who they field. You never know if the team is actually gonna show up.
Biggest bunch of mental pansies I’ve ever seen. Sooooo easily taken out of it. Not one GD leader to step up and rally the troops and smack F’ers around. Look what Teblow has done.
Gross and hateful but his team BELIEVES they’re never out of it.
Oakland shoots themselves in the foot all the time and then goes quiet while the roll over.
Yuck
December 23rd, 2011 at 2:00 pm
cutback runners have had their way with the Raiders’ defense for YEARS. Long before Waufle.
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Say for, oh I dont know, as long as TOMMY KELLY has been around????
December 23rd, 2011 at 2:02 pm
Willis and Fletcher would make things slightly better, but you still don’t see them with an OG or FB in their face every single play. In their systems, they have one gap to occupy, and they fill it. The Raiders leave multiple gaps open on every single running play. Good (and even average) cutback runners have had their way with the Raiders’ defense for YEARS. Long before Waufle.
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That’s because the LB’s are too slow to react. A running back hits the gap before the LB, yes, you are going to have problems. The LB chooses the wrong gap, you are going to have problems unless you have backside pursuit. And besides, the biggest problem in the Raider run defense is NOT Kelly and Seymour, it is the DE’s not sealing, and giving up contain.
December 23rd, 2011 at 2:05 pm
Seems like such a long time before we get any updates. Gotta be some kinda of news coming out of KC. Did dmac,ford or huff make the trip?
December 23rd, 2011 at 2:06 pm
We dont get enough pressure from our DE’s. And our defense is built on getting pressure from solely the front 4.
Wimbley is our best pass rushing end. And he’s our OLB.
December 23rd, 2011 at 2:08 pm
So Dakota …
How much longer before Howard is a Laker?
Certainly should be any day now with the Lopez injury, right?
Think we could get JJ Redick in the deal?
December 23rd, 2011 at 2:08 pm
Go to the lst TD in the Green Bay game and yes, you see both Kelly and Seymour doubled. Which is funny because that is what Jackson said about everyone being doubled. They seal off Mitchell, and leave McClain completely unblocked. Now, Mike McCarthy is a very very smart football coach, and if he had that little respect that he didn’t even account for McClain that is saying something. Of course, McClain took himself out of the play, the safety missed the tackle, and Grant skipped 55 yards for six.
December 23rd, 2011 at 2:09 pm
J Hill Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 2:08 pm
So Dakota …
How much longer before Howard is a Laker?
Certainly should be any day now with the Lopez injury, right?
Think we could get JJ Redick in the deal?
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No.
If your getting Dwight your getting Turkoglu & Duhon with him. End of story.
December 23rd, 2011 at 2:09 pm
573. Especially against Shaughnessy’s replacements. Bryant is way better than Moss but Wimbley and especiually Scott just get washed
December 23rd, 2011 at 2:10 pm
577. McClain sucks
December 23rd, 2011 at 2:13 pm
576.J Hill Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 2:08 pm
So Dakota …
How much longer before Howard is a Laker?
Certainly should be any day now with the Lopez injury, right?
Think we could get JJ Redick in the deal?
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I’d say right after Bynum’s 4 game suspension ends.
But, if we don’t keep Gasol, we will not be in the contender boat even with Howard.
December 23rd, 2011 at 2:15 pm
Gasoft isn’t going anywhere, Dakota.
For Paul, yes.
But just to get rid of him?
Not happening.
December 23rd, 2011 at 2:16 pm
Why do they keep saying this day after day, week after week. MCFADDEN IS DONE FOR THE YEAR.End of story and season.
December 23rd, 2011 at 2:17 pm
Dwight will either re-sign or we’ll trade him to the Lakers. Those seem like the only options. But theres always a dark horse team that emerges.
December 23rd, 2011 at 2:17 pm
I’d say right after Bynum’s 4 game suspension ends.
But, if we don’t keep Gasol, we will not be in the contender boat even with Howard.
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those nets picks would be garbage with Howard and Williams, Smith is an idiot if he doesn’t do the deal and why wait till the deadline instead of integrating the guy into your system? it’s not like Knicks are giving up Mello or Heats giving up Lebron
December 23rd, 2011 at 2:17 pm
Jhill,
You think the Magic don’t want Bynum and Gasol for Howard? If the deal is for Bynum and a couple of first rounders we need to get that done now. Use the trade exception to take some of their bad contracts too….yeah baby.
December 23rd, 2011 at 2:17 pm
If your getting Dwight your getting Turkoglu & Duhon with him. End of story.
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Says who???
What leverage does Orlando have now with the Nets out of the picture.
Lakers could always just say eff it and keep Bynum.
They could trade their 2 #1s and the trade exception to our pal Jerry West for Monta Ellis or some other PG.
December 23rd, 2011 at 2:19 pm
Had he not been shut down for two games after the first Kansas City game, Darrius Heyward-Bey would be much closer to 1,000 yards and would surely have it by season’s end. It’s so senseless. Just so Hue could get his two chosen guys on the field — Denarius Moore and Jacoby Ford — both very good players, he shut down the most productive receiver we have. All Heyward-Bey does is practice hard, give maximum effort and make plays when thrown the ball. He might not be as fluid as Moore or Ford, but that could be because he’s a lot bigger than they are. (I somewhat question that he’s only 210 pounds.) Heyward-Bey plays hurt, doesn’t complain, and is very humble and well-spoken.
Really, who can rationally object to his #1 WR status on this team?
December 23rd, 2011 at 2:20 pm
Don’t think its s stretch to say McClain’s been a disappointment in the least but he hasn’t been horrible and we saw what it was like without him and BlAckstock in.
Hes just been a massive disappointment play making and as a top 10 pick
December 23rd, 2011 at 2:21 pm
The Lakers aren’t trading Bynum AND Gasoft for Howard.
If that offer was on the table, Howard would be already be a Laker.
That would be ridiculously stupid on their part. Gasoft and Bynum for Paul and Howard I get. Those 2 for just Howard???? I don’t think so mayne.
December 23rd, 2011 at 2:21 pm
J Hill Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 2:17 pm
If your getting Dwight your getting Turkoglu & Duhon with him. End of story.
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Says who???
What leverage does Orlando have now with the Nets out of the picture.
Lakers could always just say eff it and keep Bynum.
They could trade their 2 #1s and the trade exception to our pal Jerry West for Monta Ellis or some other PG.
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The leverage of Dwight will sign with the Nets for free in the off-season, if the Lakers want him they need to meet the trade demands.
And the Nets arent totally out of the picture. Billy King is the best GM at getting multiple team trades done.
December 23rd, 2011 at 2:22 pm
They could trade their 2 #1s and the trade exception to our pal Jerry West for Monta Ellis or some other PG.
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monta stretches the d adds much needed speed and his defensive deficiencies can be masked Browns D, i’m sure Kupchak has inquired about him already tho
December 23rd, 2011 at 2:22 pm
Really, who can rationally object to his #1 WR status on this team?
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Care to answer that one, Corkan??
December 23rd, 2011 at 2:24 pm
Anywho.
Dwight is gonna re-sign anyways.
December 23rd, 2011 at 2:24 pm
#1 picks are crap as trade pieces in the NBA, and Laker #1’s are even worse.
December 23rd, 2011 at 2:25 pm
GO WIGGLE!
December 23rd, 2011 at 2:25 pm
DeuceDeuce Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 2:24 pm
Anywho.
Dwight is gonna re-sign anyways.
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Orlando will be the 3rd best team in the East at best and no big names are signing there, be ridiculous for Smith to risk him walking
December 23rd, 2011 at 2:27 pm
DeuceDeuce Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 2:24 pm
#1 picks are crap as trade pieces in the NBA, and Laker #1’s are even worse.
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maybe worth gettin rid of an 11 mill (monta) if u prefer Klay and or think he’s a nuissance
December 23rd, 2011 at 2:28 pm
Too bad we can’t trade Kobe.
December 23rd, 2011 at 2:30 pm
To bad we can’t trade Dakotex.
December 23rd, 2011 at 2:31 pm
Bey catches everything last Sunday…except the one that counts.
His fumble was just as devastating as Boyd’s flag negating Branch’s 70+ yd return.
THATS Raider football.
Idiots.
December 23rd, 2011 at 2:34 pm
Not even worried about McClain and the rest of our defensive talent.
Hue all but told us there will be another DC here next year and that DC will run the 3-4.
McClain will shine in the 3-4, as will our OLBs Curry and Wimbley.
I agree that we might actually see a revived Trevor Scott as an OLB in the 3-4.
ShoNasty and Kelly will get us back draft picks we can use to build the team. Gotta give up something to get something.
December 23rd, 2011 at 2:36 pm
Kelly maybe, but no one is trading for Shaughnessy since he just had a season long injury. Wouldnt want to give him up anyway. Perfect 3-4 DE.
December 23rd, 2011 at 2:36 pm
The leverage of Dwight will sign with the Nets for free in the off-season,
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That’s leverage against the Lakers?
I’d say that’s leverage against the Nets.
Who would you say the better player is, Bynum or Lopez?
Bynum and 2 #1s is the best offer out there.
December 23rd, 2011 at 2:38 pm
Houston and Bryant are the perfect 3-4 DEs.
ShoNasty is not big enough.
Would have a better chance at OLB, imo, but his best position is 4-3 DE. Was on his way to a pro bowl season. I think that would have some trade value.
December 23rd, 2011 at 2:41 pm
Jhill,
We could trade for any players we want, won’t make much of a difference as long as Mike Brown is the coach. I have never seen such a POS offensive showing in all my years of watching Laker games. It is like watching a disorganized middle school b-ball team.
December 23rd, 2011 at 2:41 pm
It would’ve had he actually played all year and made the pro-bowl. For now he’s just damaged goods until he shows he’s back in that kind of form. And he’s not much smaller than Bryant if you look at them. I would be ok with him at OLB tho, he would remind me of LaMarr Woodley there.
December 23rd, 2011 at 2:41 pm
Can’t even make a simple entry pass….
December 23rd, 2011 at 2:41 pm
We’re not going 3-4.
3-4 NTs are harder to find than top flight QBS and twice as likely to injure
December 23rd, 2011 at 2:44 pm
Dakota,
Don’t you think there is going to be a deprogramming period from the Triangle?
You expected to see them looking “sharp” already?
LOL!
December 23rd, 2011 at 2:47 pm
Can’t even make a simple entry pass….
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So it’s Mike Brown’s fault our guards suck?
December 23rd, 2011 at 2:47 pm
610.J Hill Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 2:44 pm
Dakota,
Don’t you think there is going to be a deprogramming period from the Triangle?
You expected to see them looking “sharp” already?
LOL!
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Sharp? I expect just a modicum of competence at this point. They can’t make two passes in a row without a turnover! They can’t even swing the ball…..oh my heart! I need a Rolaid.
December 23rd, 2011 at 2:52 pm
I only watched the 1st qtr of the last game Dakota.
I thought for the most part certain players looked good, and certain players looked like they needed to be cut.
Gasoft, Ebanks, Bynum, Murphy, McRoberts, Blake, D Fish, and the rookie Morris will all be good for the team.
Why in the heck we didn’t get Fluke to do a medical retirement is beyond me.
Artest will be 6th man of the year!
December 23rd, 2011 at 2:53 pm
So far the offense is: guard dribbles and dribbles, somehow a 7 footer gets the ball in no position to make a play, gives it back to the guard who jacks up a bad shot late in the shot clock….or there is the dribbles up the court and commit a quick turnover set.
I thought we hired some Italian coach to run the O….is that the roman offense?
December 23rd, 2011 at 2:54 pm
Metta World Peace is so bad…..why did we trade Ron Artest for him again?
December 23rd, 2011 at 2:55 pm
the other rookie goudelock is a better shooter than Morris
December 23rd, 2011 at 2:56 pm
Ebanks or Barnes?
December 23rd, 2011 at 3:00 pm
lakers have no allen iverson to score in the last seconds of the shot clock
December 23rd, 2011 at 3:02 pm
Yeah, I was just reading Brown’s comments on Goudelock.
Seems like he is high on the rookie gaurds.
Going to be interesting to see how Brown integrates some of these guys into the rotation and puts his so called stamp on things.
Ebanks starting at the 3 is a GREAT move!
I’d like to see him say eff it and start one of these rookies at the point. It would be ZERO pressure on him playing with Gasoft, Kobe, and Bynum. If Goudelock is as good of a defender as Brown is suggesting, start him now.
December 23rd, 2011 at 3:03 pm
Metta World Peace is so bad…..why did we trade Ron Artest for him again?
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HA! good one…
December 23rd, 2011 at 3:06 pm
I think Gasoft is going to have a MONSTER season this year.
El Spaniardo is going to put in work!
Blake Griffin????
Pffttt!!!!
Lakers have the bst PF in the league!
December 23rd, 2011 at 3:06 pm
new post….i think
December 23rd, 2011 at 3:08 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:23 pm
McFaker is done.This story is a lie and the RaiderBabies will finish Last!!LMAO
December 23rd, 2011 at 3:09 pm
# hwnrdr Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:37 pm
Thec…what’s up you Charger Lover?
December 23rd, 2011 at 3:10 pm
# inonewordraider Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 2:56 pm
Cable’s got it going should’ve kept him!?
December 23rd, 2011 at 3:12 pm
# Thec07 Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:43 am
Whats good MistaB??? Hope all is well MR…I’m pulling for Tebow.
December 23rd, 2011 at 3:13 pm
# ghostraiders Says:
December 22nd, 2011 at 6:21 pm
Kk.. …I am taking your advice.I am now a Tebow fan too.
December 23rd, 2011 at 3:15 pm
# J Hill Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 3:06 pm
I think Gasoft is going to have another bad season this year.
El Spaniardo won’t put in work!
Blake Griffin????
Pffttt!!!!
Warriors have the bst Team in the league!
December 23rd, 2011 at 3:27 pm
Trade DMAC ?
Nope.
DMAC might turn out to be Bill Walton. It’s possible injuries will limit his career. But when DMAC is healthy, there’s no debating that he’s a superb player. In my book, he’s the BEST all around RB in the NFL. A devastating combination of speed, power, hands and blocking ability.
Some call him a luxury. I prefer to think of him as a necessity.
He’s the difference maker on offense.
Not interested in a 2nd round pick for him. I don’t believe that top notch RBs are as easy a commodity to find as some here seem to think. I also believe that the importance of having a solid running game and a ‘take it to the house’ explosive RB is underestimated due to teams like the Packers and Saints dominating with their passing attacks.
When the Raids dumped ‘poor JaMarcus’ (right Debo ?), I had no concerns about possibly facing him down the line.
When the Raids dump McClain, I’ll have no reservations about seeing him in an opposing uniform.
If the Raids make the mistake of moving DMAC, he’s someone I wouldn’t want to face.
DMAC is a keeper. A player worth keeping and hoping he can get back on the field and stay there.
December 24th, 2011 at 5:59 pm
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