Live chat: Raiders vs. Chiefs in-game analysis Saturday, 9:30 a.m.
By Jon Becker
Friday, December 23rd, 2011 at 10:37 pm in Oakland Raiders.
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December 23rd, 2011 at 10:39 pm
Like Hue, but he got too cocky for my liking at times, we didn’t win Sheet but he’d have that swag like we did. I was coo w/ him being emotional and all after Al’s passing, but the stubborness of not going into a more conservative gameplan when needed made me wonder. Add to that the back2back losses to kc & den @ home, and b2b blowouts on the road after being in the driver’s seat. He should’ve had this team more prepared IMO.
December 23rd, 2011 at 10:42 pm
Q: What do you make of the Chiefs offense?
A: “Well, obviously, they have a different quarterback, but this is a team that you still have to go in, and this will be a challenge for us with the run game. They do a lot of things with McCluster. But they got, really, a three-headed monster back there with Jones, Battle an McCluster. They’re going to try to establish the run. They’re going to try to get it on the edge with McCluster. They have the ability to go to the Wildcat, like they did to us in the red zone the last game. But we got to come out and stop the run and then we have to be very disciplined in our coverage. And step it up a notch and really hold ourselves accountable to make up for last week. The guys understand what’s at stake now. Not that they haven’t up until this point, but they definitely know what’s at stake and there’s a real attitude, chip on the shoulder, after the last game to make it right.”
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Next Question
When can we expect your resignation letter?
December 23rd, 2011 at 10:42 pm
LETS GO NATION…
December 23rd, 2011 at 10:44 pm
The injuries really fked us up… but we could’ve adjusted to them alot better. Our entire O-line has been in tact all yr., we should’ve still had success on offense, not the shutout vs kc and the whippings in mia and gb.
December 23rd, 2011 at 10:45 pm
Live chat: Raiders vs. Chiefs in-game analysis Saturday, 9:30 a.m.
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Why do I think Corkran won’t even wake up til midway thru the fourth quarter?
December 23rd, 2011 at 10:48 pm
# raideredoutL.A. Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 10:44 pm
The injuries really fked us up… but we could’ve adjusted to them alot better. Our entire O-line has been in tact all yr., we should’ve still had success on offense, not the shutout vs kc and the whippings in mia and gb.
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The Cheats lost their All Pro 2nd year safety before the season started. They lost their lst string RB. They lost their starting Q. They fired their head coach. Then they rolled the undfeated defending world champion. Maybe we should fire OUR head coach and see what happens.
December 23rd, 2011 at 10:51 pm
I’m Greg Papa-ing the game tmrw.
December 23rd, 2011 at 10:56 pm
The gm search will be interesting, will Hue be part of bringing in someone qualified enough to put his ass on the hot seat right away.
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:25 pm
Run the f’n ball
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:39 pm
Why do I think Corkran won’t even wake up til midway thru the fourth quarter? He’ll say internet connection problems.
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:43 pm
Q: Did you really believe when Lechler pinned them at the two you could stop them? Be honest.
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:47 pm
purvisman Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:39 pm
Why do I think Corkran won’t even wake up til midway thru the fourth quarter? He’ll say internet connection problems.
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Hey, weren’t you like the first poster on this blog ever? I mean, there were a lot of commercial posts, but you were like the first non-advertising? No bull.
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:52 pm
raideredoutL.A. Says:
December 23rd, 2011 at 10:56 pm
The gm search will be interesting, will Hue be part of bringing in someone qualified enough to put his ass on the hot seat right away.
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When Hue throws Chucky B and his nasty D under the bus, all heat will vanish from Hue. Hopefully Hue brings up the 98 yard debacle, otherwise known as the 98 yard debacle.
December 24th, 2011 at 12:31 am
i gotta serious question. why cant any1 on the internet spell the word losing ?
LOSING ,,, L O S I N G
losing for god`s sake!!! not l o o s i n g
December 24th, 2011 at 12:37 am
Thanks for the class,MR Oh post 14 Merry Christmas,you friggin grouch,HaHa RAIDERS
December 24th, 2011 at 1:12 am
Looks like the ghost of aso has come back
December 24th, 2011 at 1:25 am
why doesnt reece get more carry’s on 1st downs this year marcel has rushed 10 times for 85 yards avg 8.5 ,rec he has 11 for 180 yards avg 16.4
long of 47 13.3 yac for 7 1st downs with 1 td
on 2nd down rushes he has 5 26 yards 5.2 per carry
rec 9 for 67 yards 7.4 avg long of 40 4.4 yac for 3 1st downs 1 td with 1 fum lost
3rd down 0 carries rec 4 for 16 yards avg 4 with a long of 12
i hate to beat a dead horse but sometimes stats do tell a story,and this one says hue whattup 0 carries on 3rd down the guy is 6 foot 3 240lbs come on man
December 24th, 2011 at 3:45 am
That is an excellent, and unfortunately accurate, article written by Monte Poole on the home page.
December 24th, 2011 at 4:27 am
A brutally honest article England.Should be put on the noticeboard.
A merry Christmas to you and your family England.
December 24th, 2011 at 5:01 am
imaquaman: Good question.
Here’s another one, Why hasn’t Hue called a screen pass to Taiwan Jones yet?
I know he’s missed some time, but in the games he has played, you’d think they try him in space, with his speed.
December 24th, 2011 at 5:03 am
Profootballfocus.com
The AFC West suddenly got very interesting on Sunday with the Chargers and Chiefs suddenly right back in the race for the division crowd after big wins. It seems unbelievable that a Kansas City team that lost it’s first two games by a combined score of 89-10 could still have a shot at a playoff spot with two games remaining, but that’s the type of year it has been in the AFC West.
For Oakland, it seems like a long time ago that they were 7-4 and seemingly cruising towards the postseason. However, last week’s late loss to Detroit, coupled with their two humbling defeats at the hands of Miami and Green Bay, have brought them right back into the chasing pack.
As we hit the last two weeks of the season, the race for the AFC West is one of the most intriguing stories in the NFL, with this being the only divisional matchup in the West this week. With that in mind, let’s take a look at the three areas to focus on this Sunday.
Oakland’s Defensive Line v Kansas City’s Offensive Line
It gives a little glimpse into why the Chiefs front office and ownership had to fire Todd Haley when you realise that they start the worst offensive tackle we have graded this year in Barry Richardson (-38.0), yet cut Jared Gaither seemingly for one bad false start penalty against Pittsburgh. There’s really no nice way to say how bad Richardson has been this year, giving up seven sacks, six hits and 34 pressures while also being our worst graded run blocking RT by some distance. The rest of the Chiefs line all have positive pass blocking grades, however all bar Branden Albert (+4.3) have struggled as run blockers.
The Raiders DL is one of the very best in the league and is led once again by Richard Seymour (+14.9), who is second in our pass-rushing grades amongst defensive tackles. But the line is much more than just Seymour – all of the top five defensive linemen in Oakland (in terms of snap counts) have a PFF grade of +4.1 or higher. However, there is one troubling aspect to the unit; penalties. Combined, the Raiders DL has committed a staggering 34 penalties, that’s something they need to improve on this week and beyond if they plan to make a serious playoff run.
Oakland’s Wide Receivers v Kansas City’s Cornerbacks
Rookie Denarius Moore (+5.6) has proved to be very much a boom or bust type of player for the Raiders, with more than half of his receiving yards (269) and three of his four touchdowns caught coming in just two games. He has seven games this year where has less than 20 yards through the air, however he has dropped just the one pass all year. Meanwhile, it sure looks like Carson Palmer (-2.0) and Darrius Heyward-Bey (-0.6) are on the same page with 13 catches for 233 yards and a touchdown in the last two weeks. Topping it off, Heyward-Bey has forced six missed tackled these past two games.
In Kansas City Brandon Flowers (+9.6) has recovered from an early season slump, that saw him have three multiple touchdowns allowed games in the first five, to allowing just the one touchdown in the last nine – much more like we expected from him. Opposite Flowers, Brandon Carr (+1.8) has allowed 50.7% of the throws into his coverage to be caught for 485 yards and three touchdown while breaking up seven passes and picking off three more.
Terrorising Tamba
At the heart of what the Chiefs do defensively is Tamba Hali (+29.2), who has been fantastic as a pass rusher once again this year, coming in to this week as our fourth highest graded pass-rushing 3-4 outside linebacker. He comes into this game in form after generating three sacks and six pressures in last week’s shocking win over the Green Bay Packers when he made Marshall Newhouse look down right silly on many occasions. For the year Hali has managed 12 sacks, nine hits and 36 pressures, and the Chiefs will need more of the same if they are to pull off an even bigger surprise than Sunday’s win and take the AFC West crown.
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December 24th, 2011 at 6:05 am
Hue has not thrown anyone under the bus yet, dont expect him to, but another 28-0 loss to the chiefs will mean the entire locker room thinks he is a joke, and at that point Mark Davis needs to step in and dismiss him
December 24th, 2011 at 6:06 am
Raiders 33…. Chefs 17….
We’re down to a 2 games season …
Get in Ortons face….stay in Ortons face… Don’t play the Chef Recievers so soft…
Run Bush…use the screen…then Palmer can set up his shots down the field…
December 24th, 2011 at 6:10 am
Hue calls plays as if he were playing Madden 12 but in terms of his football IQ in real game situations, he is way over his head, he cannot influence or inspire any confidence in the locker room and cannot even manage games properly. This has all been exposed late this season which is why he should be in the hot seat.
An ailing incoherent Al Davis hired this guy, nobody else would have ever even given him an interview.
December 24th, 2011 at 6:36 am
Game Day RAIDER NATION!!
We still have a realistic shot here so should be a good game.Do we have enough to pull it out today? Man I sure hope so. I just want to see us play well for 60 minutes and let the chips fall where they may!
MERRY CHRISTMAS NATION
CODE BLACK!!
December 24th, 2011 at 6:55 am
Fire Chuck Bresnahan NOW!!!! His defense gave away three games in the 4th quarter. Buffalo, Denver and Detroit. Fire him NOW!!!!!
December 24th, 2011 at 7:05 am
After the last 3 weeks I’m just not confident in these guys. The defense has been horrible and the playcalls have been head scratching, and the sense of urgency seems to be non existent,,I don’t wana even talk about the injuries,, add that up along with KCs new found confindence from beating the Packers, players playing to keep their jobs, and a hostile arrow head stadium, this could be ugly. Until they show me they can win a game again, I can’t pick them to win a game again. Guess we’ll see.
December 24th, 2011 at 7:12 am
Just beat the Chefs……we can fire everybody and blow up the team after game 16……nobody’s getting fired on game 14…we can start over again after the season….
Raiders 33… Chefs 17…
December 24th, 2011 at 7:17 am
I’m more fearful of a Romeo head coached team than i am Haley leading. We’ll have our hands full, the players respect Romeo and will play their @sses off for him. I wouldn’t be surpised that Romeo keeps that job next season.
I still don’t know what to expect from the Raiders. A ton of penalties and a letdown in the final minutes? I’ve seen it too many times. Let’s hope this O is ready to put some points on the board, cause i have aboslutely no faith in the D.
December 24th, 2011 at 7:18 am
Good morning, Nation! Is it Elimination Day yet?
December 24th, 2011 at 7:23 am
I’m with Boss01 pretty much.
December 24th, 2011 at 7:28 am
jfb talked major sh!t about russell and loved mcclain coming out. how the fugg is that looking now? all that blue collar sh!t went out the window the minute he went to decateur. now most of u cant stand his azz.
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I’m still rolling with Rolando.
I believe the term in poker is “pot committed”, lol
December 24th, 2011 at 7:33 am
If the Raiders don’t jump out to an early lead (at least 14) this defense will quit by halftime and the season will be over. If the Raiders do jump out to a 3 score lead and Hue Jackwad thinks it would be cute to throw the ball all over the field anyway, we will assume we have the game won at the end of the third quarter and this defense will quit. In other words – the Raiders will probably lose today. I have no confidence in this team anymore.
December 24th, 2011 at 7:36 am
Good Morning Nation Go Raiders!! All I want for Christmas is a Raider victory over the queefs. Oh and the bills, lions, jets and cardinals all winning would be nice. I will be at the annual in laws christmas party tonite and dont want to listen to all those bandwagon jumpers talk sheet on my Raiders.
December 24th, 2011 at 7:36 am
Just Win Baby Says:
If the Raiders don’t jump out to an early lead (at least 14)
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More than that. They had a 19 point lead in Buffalo!
December 24th, 2011 at 7:37 am
Just a thought….but if anyone cares to go to the archives you can see this blog was allover Hue Jackson and his play calling last year …gave him all the credit for our 8 & 8 finish and were praising his play calling ….just sayin …it’s a thin line between sucess and failure…. Palmer hits Moore in the inzone and Hues a genius …. Schilens catches that 3rd down pass and Hues a genius ….
December 24th, 2011 at 7:39 am
I’m still on the bandwagon till we finish Game 16.. ..
Just beat the Chefs…
December 24th, 2011 at 7:40 am
On the plus side, Michael Bush is playing for a contract and a starting gig elsewhere next year, so maybe he will run his guts out these last two games. Funy how the guy who had injury questions and had a steel rod in his leg when we drafted him is the only running back who can stay healthy. I hope we can keep him.
December 24th, 2011 at 7:40 am
The Raiders have been extremely predictable on the field…the play-calling, but also the manner in which they either win or lose games. There’s been one type of win, and two types of losses.
Win: Struggle but eventually plow out a 14-17 pt lead, and then go soft at the end, allowing the opponent to fight back and just fail at the end. The Raiders winning by 7 pts or less.
Lose: Get blown out. Or, same as above except the opponent gets the late score to win the game by a 7 pts or less.
This game today will end up one following suit…either we get blown out early, mail it in and lose by plenty. Or we’ll fight our way to a 14-17 pt lead, then go soft and see the opponent bring the game back to a last-minute drive, a last-second shot at a win…and we’ll either win or lose 50:50 of those games.
December 24th, 2011 at 7:43 am
Agree… I think Bush has been a warrior .. Like to see him remain a Raider
December 24th, 2011 at 7:43 am
GG – you’re right. And I think it has been this way since five or six years ago when we had a lead on the Eagles and let them come back for an injured David Akers to literally limp out onto the field and kick a game winner. It’s been the same ever since.
December 24th, 2011 at 7:45 am
Just a thought….but if anyone cares to go to the archives you can see this blog was allover Hue Jackson and his play calling last year …gave him all the credit for our 8 & 8 finish and were praising his play calling
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There were plenty of folks doing so, but there was a faction of myself, Armond, Raider Rockstar and a few others who feared Hue was a little too cute at times, and said so all offseason.
I worried he was move us away from the Tom Cable, grunt like team to some Hollywood-esque, glitter and camera-time, pass-fancy team.
Hue is who he is. He is a guy who wants to the attention, wants to win but also win pretty, and have HIS offense be the focal point of all the attention. And for the most part, he has succeeded, as he has done a great job with our offense for the most part.
But even if he wins out or loses out, he will be gone by the time his contract is up. Either he will be canned, or he will seek more camera time elsewhere.
December 24th, 2011 at 7:46 am
I think we win today, and win impressively.
Defense is going to ball today, and Rolando will be out there cracking heads.
December 24th, 2011 at 7:50 am
Honestly, JFB, this defense can ball. For about 55 – 58 minutes. Gotta learn to finish. These guys must all have unsatisfied women with their failure to get it over the finish line.
December 24th, 2011 at 7:50 am
I’m not sure when Hues contracts up… But I’d be suprised if they canned him after this season… Win or lose these last two… Just what I’m thinking ….if your gonna call ” cute” plays they better work…for the most part they haven’t , except Shane’s td pass…
December 24th, 2011 at 7:52 am
I’m thinking today’s game will be a lot like last years final In Kc…
December 24th, 2011 at 7:52 am
Kyle Orton is a hack, and he isn’t going to do ish today.
They just caught green Bay on one of those days, where the Packers were down to the 5th string tackle and just couldn’t get going.
Don’t let it fool you, KC still sucks and so does Orton.
December 24th, 2011 at 7:53 am
But I’d be suprised if they canned him after this season…
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If we finish 7-9, regressed in our record and penalties and discipline, and lost 5 straight to finish the season, I would like to hear the argument for keeping him.
December 24th, 2011 at 7:56 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
If we finish 7-9, regressed in our record and penalties and discipline, and lost 5 straight to finish the season, I would like to hear the argument for keeping him.
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Dam straight.
December 24th, 2011 at 7:56 am
Just Win Baby…
Lol, yep, it’s been this way for a number of years now. I also remember Kiffin’s first year, with McCown and Porter and Fargas. What a crap team. We went 5-11, but I think we lost by 7pts or less like 6 or 7 times in that season. It’s always interesting, teams who have losing or winning records and realizing so many of their games were won/lost by 7pts or less, or last second wins/losses. The winning record team so easily could’ve had a losing record, a losing record team so easily could’ve had a winning record.
December 24th, 2011 at 7:56 am
I don’t know anything about Mark Davis, but he may have a hard-on for building his own legacy here since AD passed away. He could clean house from top to bottom next year. Maybe he’s been sitting by and watching the same way we all have for the last ten years and thinking he could do things better when he gets his chance. Time will tell.
December 24th, 2011 at 7:58 am
I’m one of those fans that believes 1 season just isn’t enough to turn around a team….
December 24th, 2011 at 7:59 am
I also agree with this post. And in regards to the last part, I can see that happening too.
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Just Fire Baby Says:
December 24th, 2011 at 7:45 am
Hue is who he is. He is a guy who wants to the attention, wants to win but also win pretty, and have HIS offense be the focal point of all the attention. And for the most part, he has succeeded, as he has done a great job with our offense for the most part.
But even if he wins out or loses out, he will be gone by the time his contract is up. Either he will be canned, or he will seek more camera time elsewhere.
December 24th, 2011 at 8:01 am
Orton is scared to death of the Raiders, I bet he didn’t get any sleep last night because he was having nightmares about Lamar Houston.
CODE BLACK IN KC TODAY!
December 24th, 2011 at 8:01 am
But I would agree that if Hue loses the team , then he must go…that’s the key that I judge our situation…..
December 24th, 2011 at 8:03 am
Two games left… I wanna win them both…. I’ll worry about changes later…
December 24th, 2011 at 8:07 am
You don’t see signs already Fingers that Hue has lost this team? If not the whole team, sections of it, or at least members of it.
There have been indications of that here and there thru the season. Personnel moves, game-plans, who starts and who isn’t getting snaps, play-calls, and no doubt post-game press conferences that the players later talk about between themselves. Certain so-called leaders have been all over the shop. Players have left snippets of sound bytes post-game.
The actual play on the field suggests that too. Those games where they just don’t show up.
December 24th, 2011 at 8:08 am
I’d argue that being down 34-0 in two straight games is a pretty good sign you’ve lost your team. The Raiders aren’t that bad of a football team. It means they aren’t playing for you.
December 24th, 2011 at 8:09 am
GG… No not yet… But that doesn’t mean he hasnt.. You may be right… But I suspect that Bresnahan has lost the team… Hue.. Not sure yet..
December 24th, 2011 at 8:12 am
I thought the team showed up to play the Lions… And that Bresnahans schemes during that last 7 minutes lost the game… Do I thinks those missed plays on offense cost us those games?.. No.. A defense should be able to hold a 13 point lead with 7 minutes…
December 24th, 2011 at 8:14 am
Players play for each other and for their coach(es). When you have certain members of a team playing hard and others not, suggests division. When players are united and believe in their coach (either thru love for him or fear of him) you see that exact thing where all players play their assignments together, no clowning about on the sidelines by players who commit fouls or blow coverage. No players on the field turning to each other after a busted play arguing about who should’ve done what and who was supposed to cover who. A united team instead one guy pats the other on the head and says, it’s cool, get the next one.
We DO see certain groups of players united currently, and certain groups arguing and clowning. The defense is especially divided. There’s more brotherhood and patting between the receivers for instance.
I don’t presume to know, or be right about all this, but that’s what it appears to me watching years of football and team sports.
December 24th, 2011 at 8:16 am
no freakin zone bs!!!!!
December 24th, 2011 at 8:18 am
Fingers Says:
A defense should be able to hold a 13 point lead with 7 minutes…
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Well, like I said the other day . . . As awful as those last two drives by Detroit were, the Raiders defense only gave up a net 7 points in the second half (gave up two TDs, but scored one as well).
The defense may have disappeared during the last three minutes of the game. But the offense disappeared almost the entire second half of the game. Three points was not acceptable. If they even got one more FG (other than a 65 yard attempt), they win the game.
December 24th, 2011 at 8:21 am
Who is Jon Becker, Cork’s gal friday?
December 24th, 2011 at 8:21 am
I agree with you GG on post 61.
There are guys out there playing their @sses off to try to help this team win. Then you have guys goofing off and not staying focused. The D should be on the sidelines with their position coaches going over mental errors, cause they have enough of them to review. I did see Woodson last week with his guys which was good.
If the entire team played with passion the O line had and DHB(with the exception of the fumble) we would be in better shape.
December 24th, 2011 at 8:22 am
Another thing that creates division is when players start disliking/distrusting other players. Usually the highly-paid rookies and youngsters who are slacking off. Like Russell was detested, see comments by Schilens etc in his final year, like “what did you think about Russells play….”NO COMMENT” lol.
And I’m guessing the McClain incident before Miami probably triggered something there too. Guys who get favoritism. Double-standards. But any ill-feeling towards McClain might have even started sooner, cos he’s always shown from game to game one day lackluster and doesn’t control his assignment, hurting the rest of the D on a play where they all played hard and had won their assignments.
December 24th, 2011 at 8:22 am
Madden called it that ” Zonie Thingy”.. About why the Raiders gave up that 98 drive
December 24th, 2011 at 8:26 am
Deja… Yep.. I saw Woodson just animated on the sideline talking to the DBs at one point ..
December 24th, 2011 at 8:26 am
Last week the Raiders had 98 problems and that b*tch Bres was one.
December 24th, 2011 at 8:27 am
Good post #63 Raiding Texas…
It’s been something I’ve repeated often of late, after seeing so many posters here talking highly of the offense and play-calling, imo incorrectly thinking the O has been playing really well and that it’s just the D killing us. There are many drives and whole halves or even full games (rarer) when the D has been dominant but the O has been the liability, the predictable stupid play-calls and three and outs after the D has busted their balls getting a stop finally after a few first downs occurred, then the O goes and turns the ball over or thru insipid play-calling meekly goes three and out. In this pass-happy soft rules NFL of today, especially D players can get so tired and frustrated when they do good only for the O to so cheaply give the ball away or 3 and out.
December 24th, 2011 at 8:30 am
I Do remember someone asking Cork if the Raiders liked playing for Hue…. His answer was … They love playing for Hue… They love that he holds them accountable….
That may have changed ….I don’t know… But we might get an answer these last two games..
December 24th, 2011 at 8:34 am
I don’t know about the O playing ” Really well” but I do know that the Defense let us down in some key spots ..I’m thinking 2 or 3 loses due to Coverage breakdowns…
December 24th, 2011 at 8:37 am
Anyway… I’ve got company.. And my girls giving me that ” look”.. So I’m out for a while….. All you guys enjo your day and I’ll talk with ya later…..
Merry Christmas … Go Raiders
Beat the Chefs…
December 24th, 2011 at 8:38 am
It’s doesn’t help that Huff and Henderson will be out with injuries. I hope we don’t see Boyd in the lineup AT ALL today! I damn near head butt my TV last week with his dumb @ss plays.
December 24th, 2011 at 8:38 am
As we all watch this game today, just take notice of how players interact with each other. Position groups that seem tight-knit and encouraging. Other position groups always jawing. Maybe a player from one position jawing at a player from another position. Guys clowning after doing something that hurt the team like they already made up their mind at some point in the game or the season when they said to themselves “ah eff it, this team aint going anywhere, i dont care, not like im gonna be here next year or want to be”
Take notice of the unity or division both when things are going well on the field, but also when things go bad on the field.
December 24th, 2011 at 8:39 am
If Huey has lost this team it started with the signing housh and letting Hagan go. Thats when players might have started wondering WTF?
December 24th, 2011 at 8:41 am
#76, could be the first domino piece that moment, Utahraiderfan
December 24th, 2011 at 8:47 am
Fans of the Oakland Raiders feel like we have enough passion to spark the team to a win against the Kansas City Chiefs on Saturday, December 24, the question is, do the players have as much fire and passion as the fans? I’ve heard many comments recently that the team doesn’t have near the heart that the fans in Raider Nation do.
Quarterback Carson Palmer commented on the Chiefs’ game against the Packers, he said “he believes the Chiefs defensive success against the Packers was the result of execution at all the positions.” Palmer added, “[They] covered the receivers, got pressure on the quarterback, and there was little to no run game. They had a couple nice plays here and there, but they tried to throw the ball on them and it was a tough day. Both corners are really good, really physical, fast. They’re safeties are rangy and they’ve got Tamba Hali on one side and a bunch of good pass rushers around him. So, it’s just a really good unit top to bottom.”
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We’ve got to contain Hali and play lights out on D in order to win this game. Everyone needs to execute or we’ll be talking draft next week.
December 24th, 2011 at 8:47 am
Looks like the Raiders may get a chance to send Norv packing a second time in his career:
CBSSports.com
Report: Norv, Smith’s jobs depend on last 2 weeks
At the beginning of December, the idea that Norv Turner could survive into next season as Chargers head coach was borderline laughable. San Diego was 4-7, dead in the water for the playoffs and Turner was as good as gone. Over the last three weeks, though, things have changed — and it appears Norv can save his gig.
In fact, according to Kevin Acee of the San Diego Union-Tribune, the jobs of Turner and GM A.J. Smith “hinge on results in the final two weeks.”
Put simply, it sounds like the Chargers winning out — they play at Detroit on Christmas Eve and then at Oakland on New Year’s Day — will save the jobs of Turner and Smith.
December 24th, 2011 at 8:48 am
Deja Vu Says:
or we’ll be talking draft next week
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There’s not much to talk about there. That conversation will be short. LOL
December 24th, 2011 at 8:58 am
There’s not much to talk about there. That conversation will be short. LOL
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LOL yeah going to be a long offseason for us. With the very few picks we do have i hope we get a RB (cause i’m sure Bush wants to get paid and i can’t blame him) and the majority needs to go on D. We have the sh!ttiest depth (besides D line) at Safety and LB. Not enough picks so FA is an option depending on the salary cap.
December 24th, 2011 at 9:02 am
The man everyone has their eyes on lately is Chuck Bresnahan, defensive coordinator. Bresnahan says, “We have got to come out, stop the run, and then we have got to be very disciplined in our coverage, and step it up a notch and really hold ourselves accountable to make up for last week. The guys understand what is at stake now and not that they haven’t up until this point, but they definitely know what is at stake and I think there is a real attitude chip on the shoulder to make it right.”
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I hope you’re right Tubby, not like a win will save your job anyway!
December 24th, 2011 at 9:04 am
go buffalo.
December 24th, 2011 at 9:08 am
Just stopped in to wish the Raider Nation a Merry Christmas!! I hope that the Raiders give each and every one of you an early present today. A Raider Win!!!
December 24th, 2011 at 9:19 am
GO RAIDERS
December 24th, 2011 at 9:38 am
19.neilb Says:
December 24th, 2011 at 4:27 am
A brutally honest article England.Should be put on the noticeboard.
A merry Christmas to you and your family England.
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Thanks Neil. Sorry, I missed that
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Merry Christmas to you and the family also.
I hope it’s not snowing in your part of the UK. It’s bloody balmy here!
December 24th, 2011 at 9:39 am
Go Buffalo!!
December 24th, 2011 at 9:40 am
Merry Christmas, happy Hanukkah, and happy new year to the Raider Nation.
And if you’re not in the Nation, go screw yourself.
December 24th, 2011 at 9:43 am
76 is spot on.
A veteran Head Coach would have known better.
Just Win Baby.
December 24th, 2011 at 9:45 am
We need a Giants and Cardinals victory more than a Bills victory.
December 24th, 2011 at 9:51 am
I don’t think the division is as conceivable as a wildcard, because after we beat the Chiefs today, they will have nothing to play for next week in Denver, and unless the Donkeys lose that game, we have no shot at the division.
Nicked guys will sit it out for them next week, and they may even give Ricky Stanzi some looks at QB.
December 24th, 2011 at 9:54 am
Eddie Mush, what’s up you high roller?
Who do you like today?
December 24th, 2011 at 9:55 am
I
December 24th, 2011 at 9:55 am
Eddie Mush, lol.
December 24th, 2011 at 9:57 am
Anyways, Merry Christmas Nation.
December 24th, 2011 at 9:57 am
jfb i know u still like rolando. i was just pointing out others on here who have turned on him.nothing wrong with standing by your word until proven wrong. if swithcing to a 3-4 next year makes him better then im all for it. we catered to dmc’s running style on offense so we should do the same for ro on defense. i believe we win bigtime in kc today as well as next week against san diego. wont be surprised if we play our 2 best games now. the question is will it be to late. we need help but its not unreasonable to see the giants and cards winning.
December 24th, 2011 at 9:58 am
Come on Eddie, hook a brother up.
I need the money.
Tell me who you like so I can bet the other way.
December 24th, 2011 at 10:01 am
i think kc will want to beat the hell out denver. orton will play against them and never underestimate a team having a chance to eliminate a division rival. remember when we did that to kc in 99? the chefs will be in the same situation next week against those donkeys.
December 24th, 2011 at 10:03 am
“If Hue has lost this team…”
This team was kicking Detroit’s a$$ by 13 late last week. Come on, man. There are no locker room problems.
There are D problems. That’s it.
Top-10 O.
Bottom 3 D.
Hue’s doing his job.
December 24th, 2011 at 10:10 am
Morning Nation!
All I want for Xmas is for my Boyz to beat the ish out of the chiefs for 60 min. LETS GO RAIDERS!
December 24th, 2011 at 10:17 am
Local programming sucks, jumped on the tblow bandwagon and are showing the donkey/bill game instead. Hope the local sports bar is open.
December 24th, 2011 at 10:17 am
408,Good to hear from you.You got that right,60 FULL minutes,Talk at you Later,got to make a Bloody Mary,hung over a bit. Raiders!
December 24th, 2011 at 10:25 am
Armond,Rolando gets at least 2 more years,imo.A few of us were with DHB,most were NOT.Same with DMac,once again,3rd year they begin to SHINE,like my chaos 6 chrome 20s,RAIDERS.
December 24th, 2011 at 10:26 am
I like the Redskins to cover (-6), take the points with AZ (+5) and the over in the Cowboys game.
2 out of 3 at least
Book it
December 24th, 2011 at 10:31 am
Alex7 Says:
Top-10 O.
Bottom 3 D.
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You’re using a bad metric to say “Top-10 O”. Are you using the yardage to get that? The Raiders offense is #15 in scoring. Yardage doesn’t determine games. Scoring does.
If you’re going to be middle of the road or worse in scoring, you need to have an elite defense. Aside from the pathetic AFC West teams, the only serious playoff contenders that have scored fewer points this season are Tennessee and Pittsburgh – both in the top 10 fewest points given up on defense.
So, even if you have an average defense, you need to do better than #15 in scoring offense.
December 24th, 2011 at 10:33 am
Thanks Eddie.
It’s booked.
GO WIGGLE!
December 24th, 2011 at 10:35 am
T Jones is out? I thought he practiced all week. WTF?
December 24th, 2011 at 10:37 am
Bloody Maryz U Beezys!
December 24th, 2011 at 10:37 am
AZ is plus 4.
The over on the Dallas line is 51 and 1/2.
GO WIGGLE!
December 24th, 2011 at 10:38 am
Bush’s stock falls around the league with every game he plays.
3.9 yds. a carry is not very impressive.
Anybody can do that.
December 24th, 2011 at 10:38 am
Egg Nog and some erk and jerk
December 24th, 2011 at 10:39 am
And Bush’s average per carry has gradually declined with each game he plays.
December 24th, 2011 at 10:39 am
NO Taiwan Jones today!!!! That sux!
December 24th, 2011 at 10:40 am
Taiwan is OUT again..
and yet, Hue says there is no holes in the roster that NEED top be filled?
We’ve been down to 1 RB for over a montha nd he still refuses to IR JC and bring up a back from the PS.
WHAT A CROCK OF CRUD!
Boyd will probably be playing today too…
December 24th, 2011 at 10:40 am
For all of you who complain about the new rules on blows to the head and what not, these former NFL players suing the league is only going to make it MASSIVELY WORSE.
December 24th, 2011 at 10:41 am
107,YOU beat me to the punch,WTF,we got a few fragile players,SKILL players,rbs,Man,do I remember the late 60s and 70s,these guys would VOTE for FLAG Football.
December 24th, 2011 at 10:41 am
Taiwan was injury prone in college, so this should be of no suprise.
December 24th, 2011 at 10:42 am
Wow Jones again….
December 24th, 2011 at 10:42 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 24th, 2011 at 10:40 am
For all of you who complain about the new rules on blows to the head and what not, these former NFL players suing the league is only going to make it MASSIVELY WORSE.
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My thoughts exactly, By 2018 the NFL will basically be 2 hand touch.
December 24th, 2011 at 10:43 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 24th, 2011 at 10:41 am
Taiwan was injury prone in college, so this should be of no suprise.
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It’s a surprise because he was practicing.
December 24th, 2011 at 10:43 am
With cork ran who is active who is not?
December 24th, 2011 at 10:44 am
So much for playing through pain and all those kinds of cliches. Would these guys be playing if this was a playoff game?
December 24th, 2011 at 10:46 am
No they have no heart….
December 24th, 2011 at 10:47 am
Hue should have brought in a another running back when Twinkle toes went down.
When was that again?
December 24th, 2011 at 10:47 am
119,2 hand touch is way to violent,the guy with the ball may be PUSHED to the ground,cant happen
December 24th, 2011 at 10:48 am
Season on the line, too many guys out. It almost feels like the guys are planning for next year all ready.
December 24th, 2011 at 10:49 am
52.fingers Says:
December 24th, 2011 at 7:58 am
I’m one of those fans that believes 1 season just isn’t enough to turn around a team….
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Look at all the teams that go from losing records to playoffs the next year. It happens. Look at SF this year. They go from losing to ELITE in one year with omg…a ROOKIE head coach.
People are all too willing to make excuses or be understanding in regard to Raiders failures.
Raiders were 8-8 last year. You almost EXPECT an 8-8 team on the rise to AT LEAST make the playoffs.
That was the stated goal and why Hue came in THIS year in the first place.
December 24th, 2011 at 10:50 am
The funny thing is, this IS a playoff game, a super bowl in fact, for us today.
so i guess hue would sit playmakers out who aren’t entirely healthy but could contribute, in a real playoff game. However, i doubt that too, and yet it’s being done still.
December 24th, 2011 at 10:51 am
maybe the UFL can show some huevos and bring back real football. All these players know the risks and choose to take them for big paydays and glory…no one, no one is forcing them to play…suing the nfl is like a highway patrol suing the state for getting shot or hit by a car, the risk is inherent in their chosen profession…..
December 24th, 2011 at 10:52 am
#127….im with you too on that. RaiderNation far too forgiving, just because we’re finally a .500 team again in back-to-back years.
I can forgive raider nation this feeling for this year, but it’s time to climb out of it 2012 and no more excuses.
December 24th, 2011 at 10:53 am
We will see if any of these guys have any pride….
December 24th, 2011 at 10:54 am
The NFL could give a crap about player safety and would allow all the big hits it could.
It is the players that are causing this change, and I am for it to an extent if guys are 40 years old and eating baby food.
December 24th, 2011 at 10:54 am
114.VanHeathen Says:
December 24th, 2011 at 10:40 am
Taiwan is OUT again..
and yet, Hue says there is no holes in the roster that NEED top be filled?
We’ve been down to 1 RB for over a montha nd he still refuses to IR JC and bring up a back from the PS.
WHAT A CROCK OF CRUD!
Boyd will probably be playing today too…
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From his first play in preseason this Boyd guy has been an absolute piece of crap.
There’s no two ways about it.
What can u do though? The dbackfield is decimated with injuries.
if you’ve got Dick VanDyke starting back there…you’ve got problems.
Raiders have to stop picking up players who look good in the special olympics. Sure, the “specials” are competitive, but they just don’t translate into NFL quality players.
December 24th, 2011 at 10:54 am
wassup hendu! im not giving up on rolando but i want to see him make more plays. he needs take a huge leap but its not too late for him.
December 24th, 2011 at 10:54 am
Fug this pus–fied league,Goodell/whatever is killin the sport,imo
December 24th, 2011 at 10:55 am
What up Nation! Let’s go Raiders.
Chuck B will be auditioning for a position coach job with other teams today and next week. Hopefully his next team will say:
“We really liked the way he stood in there and came up with great schemes the last two games and the playoffs despite all the torture he endured on Steve and Jerry’s blog.”
December 24th, 2011 at 10:55 am
why doesnt corky tell us post who the inactives are like jerr use to? he spends more time taking shots at heybey than he updates this blog.
December 24th, 2011 at 10:56 am
129,save youre post,send it to the NFL,FRIGGIN well said.
December 24th, 2011 at 10:57 am
Did Solomon Wilcox just say that Kyle Orton is going to have a big day???
No f’n way!!!!
December 24th, 2011 at 10:59 am
Armond,DHB will come thru,DMoore will as well.We need Reese to get many touches as well
December 24th, 2011 at 11:00 am
Just bring back leather helmets and you can solve this problem. No way Harrison drives his own head into another guy’s head if all he has is an inch of leather to protect his brain.
December 24th, 2011 at 11:00 am
Lets go Raiders
Carson Palmer carries the raiders to victory today
December 24th, 2011 at 11:02 am
139.Just Fire Baby Says:
December 24th, 2011 at 10:57 am
Did Solomon Wilcox just say that Kyle Orton is going to have a big day???
No f’n way!!!!
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After last Sunday, and looking at the stats, and actually watching the games, his statement makes perfect sense.
He didn’t make a pick for todays game on NFLN last night but told Millen that Millens pick of the Raiders to win was “sentimental”.
He’s a hater for sure.
December 24th, 2011 at 11:02 am
What brain?
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RaidingTexas Says:
December 24th, 2011 at 11:00 am
No way Harrison drives his own head into another guy’s head if all he has is an inch of leather to protect his brain.
December 24th, 2011 at 11:03 am
CODE BLACK ****
December 24th, 2011 at 11:03 am
Nice Start! Let’s GO!
December 24th, 2011 at 11:03 am
MistaBrown Says:
What brain?
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Awesome response.
December 24th, 2011 at 11:03 am
He also said Palmer has gotten better every week.
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Just Fire Baby Says:
December 24th, 2011 at 10:57 am
Did Solomon Wilcox just say that Kyle Orton is going to have a big day???
No f’n way!!!!
December 24th, 2011 at 11:03 am
Wow McCann!!!
December 24th, 2011 at 11:05 am
stupid play calling already
December 24th, 2011 at 11:05 am
I say Wilcotts is a “hater” but he DID say Raiders would hang on to win the west, even when we were 7-5 and Tebow Mania was taking hold.
December 24th, 2011 at 11:07 am
Wasbanned Says:
December 24th, 2011 at 11:05 am
stupid play calling already
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its not stupid if they execute correctly… The first 10-15 plays are scripted, no matter where u start from
December 24th, 2011 at 11:09 am
RT is still an major issue for this team, and the guy the Pats took with the Seymour trade is playing great RT as a rookie.
December 24th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
this team is effin stupid
December 24th, 2011 at 12:47 pm
merry christmas to all, even the haters.the chief haters that is
December 24th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
marcel reece thank you
December 24th, 2011 at 6:06 pm
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