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Raiders 16, Chiefs 13, OT

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Saturday, December 24th, 2011 at 2:18 pm in Oakland Raiders.

KANSAS CITY, Mo. _ Sebastian Janikowski kicked a 36-yard field goal on the first possession in overtime as the Raiders remained in the thick of the playoff race with a 16-13 win over the Kansas City Chiefs at Arrowhead Stadium.

Janikowski’s kick was set up by a 53-yard strike from Carson Palmer to Darrius Heyward-Bey to the Kansas City 23, with a pair of Michael Bush runs setting up the game winner and touching off a Raiders celebration.

Combined with a loss by Denver in Buffalo, the Raiders pulled into a first-place tie in the division race at 8-7, but will need the Broncos to lose to the Chiefs next to win the title _ provided Oakland closes out with a win against San Diego.

Oakland also remains in the hunt for a wild card berth, although they’re a game back of the Cincinnati Bengals at 9-6.

The Raiders defense, which gave up 71 and 98 yards in touchdown drives to the Lions in last week’s 28-27 loss, allowed Kansas City to go 80 yards in five plays in 1:53 to tie the score 13-13 on a 3-yard touchdown pass from Kyle Orton to Dwayne Bowe.

It came after the Raiders took a 13-6 lead on a 32-yard field goal by Janikowski, a short-field drive set up when Oakland stuffed Jackie Battle on fourth-and-1 from the Chiefs 43-yard line.

Following a Raiders’ three-and-out, Kansas City got itself back in position for a game-winning 49-yard field goal attempt by Ryan Succop with five seconds left only to have Trevor Scott block the attempt at the gun. Had Succop converted the kick, the Raiders playoffs hope would have been over.

For all the Raiders penalties, the most costly came in the first half and erased a perfectly executed 36-yard touchdown pass from Shane Lechler to Brandon Myers on a 53-yard fake field goal attempt by Sebastian Janikowski.

Lechler took the snap and pitched a shovel pass to Myers, who was running from left to right, and turned the corner to score what appeared to be a game-altering touchdown.

Unfortunately, the snap came a fraction after the play clock had hit zero, with the Raiders absorbing a painful delay of game penalty that hurt even worse when Janikowski’s ensuing 58-yard field goal attempt hit the crossbar.

The Raiders took a quick 3-0 lead as Bryan McCann returned the opening kickoff 91 yards to the Buffalo 14, with the Raiders failing to capitalize with a touchdown and settling for a 28-yard field goal by Janikowski.

The Chiefs tied it 3-3 on Ryan Succop’s 29-yard field goal, set up by a Derrick Johnson interception of Palmer when the Oakland quarterback was hit by a defender as he threw.

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264 Responses to “Raiders 16, Chiefs 13, OT”

  1. RaidingTexas Says:

    Now need Orton to show his good side next week.

  2. Goldie7 Says:

    Fantastic! We win with a Jano FG! Merry Christmas Jer!

  3. RaiderCrunch Says:

    How does the tie with Denver play out right now?

  4. Dakota Says:

    So if both the Raiders and Donkeys win next week do we still lose the division?

  5. RaiderCrunch Says:

    nevermind

  6. WESTRAIDER Says:

    Yep

  7. DaTruth91 Says:

    Dont forget hue’s GREAT CALL and carsons GREAT THROW and DHB GREAT CATCH

    the 3 topics some of you guys hate the most

  8. Just Fire Baby Says:

    So if both the Raiders and Donkeys win next week do we still lose the division?

    *********************

    Yes.

    But we are alive and well in the wildcard right now

  9. RaiderCrunch Says:

    Raiders need to beat SD

    KC needs to beat Denver (they’ll do it for Crennell)

  10. Raiders for life Says:

    YYEEEEESSSSSSSSS
    RRAAAAAIIIIIIDDDDDEEERRRRRSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

    And the season continues!!!!!!!!!!

  11. 901Raiders Says:

    Dakota Says:
    December 24th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
    So if both the Raiders and Donkeys win next week do we still lose the division?

    I think we’ll get it because of our schedule. Gotta check on it.

  12. neilb Says:

    Well,I’ll have a few more grey hairs tomorrow.

  13. Thec07 Says:

    cardiac kids…Game should have been over in regulation….

    team loves taking time off our ticker…

  14. Just Fire Baby Says:

    How about that tip pass by McClain that saved a TD, and ultimately saved our season?

  15. YoungAmerican Says:

    Guys, I don’t think I can do this s*** anymore.

  16. WESTRAIDER Says:

    We need a win nd a loss by den,cin,nyj

  17. 18yearsold18yearfan Says:

    Dakota we get in the playoffs if we win and the broncos or bengals lose

  18. Goldie7 Says:

    If we defeat the Chargers next week we win our Division.

  19. Thec07 Says:

    Wildcard, and Div is still available…This team will close out it out…

  20. Just Fire Baby Says:

    MM34 on that screen pass to McCluster is laughable.

    He does that crap all the time.

    Free to roam, nobody touches him……..and he doesn’t even come 5 feet from making a tackle.

    THAT GUY IS AWFUL!!!

  21. 505raiders Says:

    D never quit

    kept us in the game

    the offense looked weak

    we should have won by two touchdowns

  22. Plunketthead Says:

    Getting old blows. These games really are becoming too stressful. My heart wants to jump out of my skin.

    I get a tear in my eye when I realize what a monster Bey is becoming. He is always healthy, improves every year, works hard and is becoming the best WR in his draft class proving Al right.

  23. mcfadden20. Says:

    Did you guys see that jump by Jerome Simpson for the TD ?/ WOW just WOW maybe play of the year

  24. Just Fire Baby Says:

    If we defeat the Chargers next week we win our Division

    ***************************

    Nope.

    Bronco’s still have to lose.

    We do not control our own destiny.

  25. 18yearsold18yearfan Says:

    We don’t necessarily need the Jets to lose because we have the tie breaker with them but idk about the Titans

  26. olinesux Says:

    Where is kc den game?

  27. SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:

    Yeah, Denver has us on the tiebreaker fellas with the better division record if we both win next week.

  28. mcfadden20. Says:

    In DEN

  29. Thec07 Says:

    Getting old blows. These games really are becoming too stressful. My heart wants to jump out of my skin.

    +++++++++=

    hahahahahaha…Truth

  30. olinesux Says:

    Feels great to have a meaningful game after Christmas!

  31. 901Raiders Says:

    Jets are done. It’s looking Better 4 Us!!!!!

  32. SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:

    As for the wildcard; with the Jets losing today; we just need the Titans and Bengals to both lose and for us to handle our biz against San Diego

  33. Gershom Says:

    Ok, so all we have to do now is fire Bresnahan, promote (insert anyone with half a brain) as the defensive coordinator, put in extra practice between palmer & every receiver not named Heyward Bary, and were good :)

  34. Goldie7 Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    December 24th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
    If we defeat the Chargers next week we win our Division

    ***************************

    Nope.

    Bronco’s still have to lose.

    We do not control our own destiny.
    **********************************

    Maybe Romeo will play spoiler…he needs that coaching job. Maybe just maybe the Chiefs will defeat the Broncos next week.

  35. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Bengals win hurt our wildcard a little, but if they lose next week, and the Titans lose, as long as we win we are in.

  36. WESTRAIDER Says:

    Mcfuffin next week?

  37. fingers Says:

    Been watching Raider/ Chef games since 1970… This was a typical game between these two teams… Any win is a good win…

  38. YoungAmerican Says:

    My hands were shaking on that Seabass FG. I’m not sure if my heart has started beating again. Help?

  39. Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:

    FIREHUEY!

    Merry Christmas.

  40. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Chiefs probably will pack it in next week.

    But if Tebow can string together a 2nd half like today, we have a good chance!!!

  41. neilb Says:

    Getting old blows. These games really are becoming too stressful. My heart wants to jump out of my skin.

    ———————————————-

    They should have some kind of health warning on before the game starts.

  42. fingers Says:

    Orton will want to beat the Donks badly..

  43. HairyBush Says:

    Just so you all know, The Raiders are harder on my health than Booze, Weed, And Junk food! Print that!

  44. Thec07 Says:

    They should have some kind of health warning on before the game starts.

    +++++++

    Warning lable, disclaimer like they put on cigs…lol

  45. neilb Says:

    Chefs need to beat Denver? I’m a big Orton fan for the next 7 days.

  46. 901Raiders Says:

    Jets just imploded. That looked familiar, but NOT THIS WEEK!!!!!!

  47. YoungAmerican Says:

    HairyBush Says:
    December 24th, 2011 at 2:30 pm

    Just so you all know, The Raiders are harder on my health than Booze, Weed, And Junk food! Print that!

    ———–

    Here f***ing here. I’m 23 and I feel like I’m having a stroke every time I watch this team in the 4th quarter.

  48. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Orton sucks, relying on him to win a road game for us to get in the playoffs is a shame on us.

    But no matter what, when we kickoff we are alive, as the Bronco’s game is on the same time as we are.

    Bengals play in the AM, in Baltimore. Not sure about the Titans.

  49. SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    December 24th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
    Bengals win hurt our wildcard a little, but if they lose next week, and the Titans lose, as long as we win we are in.

    —————————
    Bengals play the Ravens who will be playing for the 1 seed and homefield throughout, but the Titans will be playing the Texans who really don’t have anything to play for. At least the game is in Houston though…never know…….

  50. Plunketthead Says:

    If I was not smoking serious dank I might have just had a stroke.

    That was quite the game and we stand a great chance of winning the AFC West.
    I think KC will handle Touchdown Timmy and we humiliate the dolts

  51. Thec07 Says:

    HairyBush Says:
    December 24th, 2011 at 2:30 pm
    Just so you all know, The Raiders are harder on my health than Booze, Weed, And Junk food! Print that!

    ++++++++++=

    A fukin truth…

  52. WESTRAIDER Says:

    True that hairybush

  53. Dakota Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    December 24th, 2011 at 2:22 pm
    How about that tip pass by McClain that saved a TD, and ultimately saved our season?
    ++++++++

    That was nice….though who knows, may have been an int if he hadn’t knocked it down… :)

  54. mcfadden20. Says:

    oh man im with you guys at one time i had breathing problems n i was always wondering where the heck it came from but now i know why

  55. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Had baked clams, chivalade, and all kinds of appetizers and I couldn’t eat anything.

  56. 901Raiders Says:

    Gotta give props to Seymore. He came through Big Time today…

  57. supapimp Says:

    raiders need to beat chargers and i hope orton comes back and bites elway and effin’ tebow in the arse next week! GO CHIEFS!!!

  58. Pretty Rick Says:

    All still in favor of getting rid of D-Bey say I ,,,,,,,,anyone?,,,,,,,,,,,anyone?,,,,,,hello?,,,,,,
    Blood pressure before game 116/75,,,blood pressure after game 124/81.

  59. YoungAmerican Says:

    Good to see Richard Seymour today. Looked like he was playing angry.

  60. Dakota Says:

    Palmer should never attempt a throw of under 25 yards. Just throw bombs, then at least if it is picked it is like a punt.

  61. WESTRAIDER Says:

    Merry xmas nation im out

  62. alex7 Says:

    Lions are up 7-0 on Chargers. Matters a little bit for tie-breakers.

  63. Just Win Baby Says:

    Chuck B still sucks. He must be fired.

  64. neilb Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    December 24th, 2011 at 2:30 pm
    Orton sucks, relying on him to win a road game for us to get in the playoffs is a shame on us.

    ————————————————–

    Whatever it takes!Just win baby!

  65. YoungAmerican Says:

    Hue should send Chuck B packing after today. No reason to keep him around at this point. Let Waufle and/or Woodson run the defense.

  66. fingers Says:

    Chefs are gonna play hard aginst the Donks… It’s a division game… They will play for Crennel … Ortons will want to ruin the season for the Donks…

  67. mcfadden20. Says:

    LETS go Orton .. lets go

  68. Dakota Says:

    I hope today was the day the Teblow bubble finally burst. Hope he showed Dungver just enought to force them to ruin their next two years waiting for him to improve.

  69. mcfadden20. Says:

    Orton will want to beat Tebow cuz he was benched for that scrub so he will want to prove them wrong

  70. SharkCatcher Says:

    Simple as this..we win next week and Denver looses we are in…we both win kc gets in with better divison record
    Those losses to lions , bills ,chiefs and dolphins can come back and haunt us all off season.

  71. YoungAmerican Says:

    KC has exactly the right kind of defense to stop Tebow from pulling any of that cute s***.

  72. antispy3 Says:

    Adrian Peterson sustained a Willis MaGahee type injury. Remember, he had an injury checkered collegiate career.

    One more reason NOT to draft a running back in the first 10 picks of the draft.

  73. neilb Says:

    EVERYONE!!!!

    LET’S GO ORTON….LET’S GO!!

  74. Dakota Says:

    Yes, bad day for the Viqueens. Had Luck in their sights, but instead they lost their star RB and their young QB and still won the game.

  75. raiderzmaverick Says:

    Okay guys, if we win next week we will be in IF Denver or Cincinnati loose. We win and either of them lose and we’re in…because we own the tie breaker with Cincy & Jets, but Denver if they win next week has the tie breaker over us. As now we’re the same record as the Jets if we win next week it doesn’t matter what the Jets do.

  76. neilb Says:

    That Peterson injury looked terrible.

  77. antispy3 Says:

    . . .it’s win-win for the Raiders. If KC wins the Raiders need only to beat the dischargers to win the division.

    KC looses & the Raiders have their new DC. . .

  78. SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:

    SharkCatcher Says:
    December 24th, 2011 at 2:37 pm
    Simple as this..we win next week and Denver looses we are in…we both win kc gets in with better divison record
    Those losses to lions , bills ,chiefs and dolphins can come back and haunt us all off season.

    ————–

    KC had to win today…they’re 6-9 now…no way they get in

  79. Plunketthead Says:

    Vegas

    I will be in Sincity tomorrow. Gonna cash my Raider/bear and over ticket. I will put it all on the Raiders and over against the dolts.

  80. 505raiders Says:

    dhb stays on his feet he runs into the endzone gameover

    and man did that ball hang up there just like the dmoore touchdown

    happy for him that he caught it you can tell that all he was thinking about was catching that ball

    dhb is getting better just wish he could catch with his hands

  81. nwr8r Says:

    mcfadden20. Says:
    December 24th, 2011 at 2:23 pm
    Did you guys see that jump by Jerome Simpson for the TD ?/ WOW just WOW maybe play of the year

    ************************

    Awesome play. Isn’t that the same guy who did the soccer style flop a few weeks a go? He threw himself back in the air and did the leg kick and got a penalty drawn on the other team?

  82. alex7 Says:

    Jerry, need to edit:

    “The Raiders took a quick 3-0 lead as Bryan McCann returned the opening kickoff 91 yards to the Buffalo 14″

    I know that Buffalo loss still hurts and all…

  83. Dakota Says:

    DHB, Routt, McClain, Palmer all had big plays.

  84. raiderzmaverick Says:

    SharkCatcher Says:
    December 24th, 2011 at 2:37 pm

    Simple as this..we win next week and Denver looses we are in…we both win kc gets in with better divison record
    Those losses to lions , bills ,chiefs and dolphins can come back and haunt us all off season.
    =====================
    Not quite. KC has a worse record than us. There’s actually no way KC can get in now.

  85. SharkCatcher Says:

    I meant Denver not kc..my bad

  86. Plunketthead Says:

    Its strange to be watching niner-seahawks because its a good game. Pete has the gulls playing hardball.

    Their OLine is impressive. They must have a good coach

  87. raiderzmaverick Says:

    Maybe actually KC could get in IF we lose and they beat the Broncos…but I don’t really care about that scenario. Cause if we lose who the hell cares if it’s Broncos or Chiefs that move on.

    The whole point is that we gotta win next week. Then it’s up to Denver or Cincy to lose and we’re in.

  88. Dakota Says:

    Who do the bungholes play next week?

  89. YoungAmerican Says:

    Seahawks and 49ers defenses are easily the most fun defenses in the league to watch.

  90. 505raiders Says:

    dont praise palmer both big plays he hung the ball up in the air and was late on the throw

  91. antispy3 Says:

    So RGIII becomes the new Minnesota QB? I think they have to make that move. A difference making QB playing in a dime with a somewhat imposing “D?”

    I fear AP has a long road back. . .

  92. alex7 Says:

    lol plunkett

  93. 901Raiders Says:

    Everyone needs to put a healthy DMAC on their Christmas wish list.

  94. Plunketthead Says:

    Pete is building a bully

  95. alex7 Says:

    505,

    better to keep mouth closed and be thought a fool, than to open it and remove all doubt.

  96. nwr8r Says:

    KC beats Denver next week. Orton gets his payback and the players want to keep Crennel as coach. They will to play spoiler to Denver for sure.

  97. Thec07 Says:

    KC is 6-9, impossbile for them to get in…

  98. antispy3 Says:

    Christmas
    Eve’ an apt day for the magic to leave Denver. . .

  99. 504 Raider Says:

    I just hope the Handshake and embrace conversation went like this:

    Hue: That was a helluva game Ro, you guys gave us all we could handle. I don’t know how we pulled that off. Please help us out next week and stop Tebow. I owe you one brother.

    Romeo: Don’t worry Hue I got you baby. I’ll take care of it no doubt. What the hell is that smell? Just get changed before the presser.

  100. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I will be in Sincity tomorrow. Gonna cash my Raider/bear and over ticket. I will put it all on the Raiders and over against the dolts.

    ***********************

    Go get em!!

  101. LTR Says:

    We have same division and conf record as denver. What’s the next tie breaker? Strength of schedule?

  102. alex7 Says:

    Antispy,

    Minnesota just used a 1st round pick on their QB Ponder. They’re not drafting another one.

    They’ll likely trade down and try to grab a few pieces. They got old on D in a hurry, and need an explosive backup RB.

  103. nwr8r Says:

    505raiders Says:
    December 24th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
    dont praise palmer both big plays he hung the ball up in the air and was late on the throw

    *********************

    If they hung up so long, why couldn’t the defenders make a play on them?

  104. alex7 Says:

    LTR

    record vs common opponents.

  105. SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:

    901Raiders Says:
    December 24th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
    Everyone needs to put a healthy DMAC on their Christmas wish list.

    ——————-

    Man, I love him as much as the next Raider fan and know he’s our best player when healthy, but whats really on my Christmas list is a 1st rounder and 2 2nd or 3rd rounders for him…..sad to say, but I think that ship has sailed. Lisfranc is one of the toughest injuries in all of sports, and with him being a running back; makes it even tougher. I wish him the best and would love to see him return, but if we can get something good for him; we might have to part ways…

  106. olinesux Says:

    crazy fords catch last year and beys catch this year both against the queefs!!!

  107. antispy3 Says:

    Hairy Bush @ # 46; I echo that, my brother!

  108. MistaBrown Says:

    They win the head to head so I dont think div record matters.
    _____

    LTR Says:
    December 24th, 2011 at 2:46 pm

    We have same division and conf record as denver. What’s the next tie breaker? Strength of schedule?

  109. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Being that Palmer and Soup overthrew deep passes all year, I was very happy to see Palmer’s “underthrown” deep passes.

  110. Dakota Says:

    So if SD wins today, and next week, and KC beats Denver, SD wins the division?

    lol that would suck

  111. mcfadden20. Says:

    nwr8r Says:
    December 24th, 2011 at 2:40 pm

    mcfadden20. Says:
    December 24th, 2011 at 2:23 pm
    Did you guys see that jump by Jerome Simpson for the TD ?/ WOW just WOW maybe play of the year

    ************************

    Awesome play. Isn’t that the same guy who did the soccer style flop a few weeks a go? He threw himself back in the air and did the leg kick and got a penalty drawn on the other team?

    —-

    HAHA yeah he’s the same guy .. that was freakin hillarious

  112. alex7 Says:

    Bengals play the Ravens next week, with home field advantage in the balance for the Ravens.

  113. MistaBrown Says:

    This is the dumbest post I’ve read since Seymour Bush said Lechler isn’t a “placement” kicker.
    _______

    505raiders Says:
    December 24th, 2011 at 2:43 pm

    dont praise palmer both big plays he hung the ball up in the air and was late on the throw

  114. Thec07 Says:

    We have the Tie breaker over SD

  115. alex7 Says:

    Yeah Dakota

    we REALLY want to see a Chargers team next week that’s eliminated already (if they lose to the Lions today).

    You can picture how flat that Norv team would be.

  116. MistaBrown Says:

    If SD wins today and we can’t beat them @ home then we dont belong in the playoffs, obviously
    _____

    Dakota Says:
    December 24th, 2011 at 2:48 pm

    So if SD wins today, and next week, and KC beats Denver, SD wins the division?

    lol that would suck

  117. LTR Says:

    They win the head to head so I dont think div record matters.
    _____

    LTR Says:
    December 24th, 2011 at 2:46 pm

    We have same division and conf record as denver. What’s the next tie breaker? Strength of schedule?—————————–
    we split the season with them 23-20 week 1

  118. Thec07 Says:

    SD will be irreleavant after todays game to a certain extent as they are going to get dismatled by DET…

    Only role SD is going to have is potentail spolier…

  119. MistaBrown Says:

    Oh yes we did. Dam its been a long year I forgot week 1!

    Well we have to beat SD no matter what SD does today, thanks LTR

  120. alex7 Says:

    6 of the 7 top rush D’s play a 3-4. Just feel like throwing that in there every week. =)

  121. 504 Raider Says:

    Detroit up 10-0 and on the move again.

  122. alex7 Says:

    SD can’t play the spoiler role with Norv coaching. They won’t get up for that.

  123. nwr8r Says:

    mcfadden20. Says:
    December 24th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
    nwr8r Says:
    December 24th, 2011 at 2:40 pm

    mcfadden20. Says:
    December 24th, 2011 at 2:23 pm
    Did you guys see that jump by Jerome Simpson for the TD ?/ WOW just WOW maybe play of the year

    ************************

    Awesome play. Isn’t that the same guy who did the soccer style flop a few weeks a go? He threw himself back in the air and did the leg kick and got a penalty drawn on the other team?

    —-

    HAHA yeah he’s the same guy .. that was freakin hillarious

    ********

    I couldn’t stop laughing. Funniest thing I’ve seen in the NFL for a long time

  124. Dakota Says:

    Detroit owes us for the gift Chucky B and crew gave them last week.

    Better crush SD.

  125. 505raiders Says:

    because they were wide open

    the d moore touchdown he had to slow down and nearly gave the defender a chance

    but d moore will fight for the ball and ill give it to him every time to fight one on one for a ball that is hung in the air

  126. ghostraiders Says:

    It feels like Christmas came early… made $400 taking Patsy’s last week and Raiders this week….

  127. Plunketthead Says:

    Today was a classic “Just Win Baby” day

  128. alex7 Says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqS5U4lSSVg

    Simpson flop

  129. MistaBrown Says:

    We have a game that matters week 17.

    Just Win!

  130. alex7 Says:

    Ghost, how much do you have to bet to win $400 on one game? About $380?

  131. Dakota Says:

    Hope Hue doesn’t panic and throw McFadden in next week just to save his job. Would ruin all of next year.

  132. MistaBrown Says:

    If we get DMAC and Ford back what a boost it will be!

  133. zopi Says:

    Well the players that needed to make plays made them today, Big Rich could have just secured his job on the special teams. The rest of the team showed up just in time to pull a much needed w.

  134. alex7 Says:

    lol 505

    just stop. just stop.

  135. 504 Raider Says:

    Romo’s throwing hand looks like he has a tennis ball inside of it. He’s done for the day and as big as that thing is he might be done next week as well.

  136. mcfadden20. Says:

    ghostraiders Says:
    December 24th, 2011 at 2:52 pm

    It feels like Christmas came early… made $400 taking Patsy’s last week and Raiders this week….

    ______
    Oh things are finally working out for u now lolz

  137. wasbanned Says:

    Glad the Raiders pulled it out.

    I would have been pissed all Christmas weekend.

  138. 505raiders Says:

    palmer is a proffessional QB and supposibly and elite qb he should be hitting these guys in stride

    that game should not have been close

  139. alex7 Says:

    dakota, I believe the report suggested DMac doesn’t run a risk of re-injuring that tendon if he plays.

    At least no higher risk than any other player.

    It’s not like a break that could re-break if not properly healed. It’s a messed up tendon.

  140. JT Says:

    I’M ready for a nap, that game suked all the x-mas energy from me.

    I feel confortable about Orton beating his old team. Denver is in a downward spiral. this division can ba had. but we have to win vs chargers.

  141. MistaBrown Says:

    T Kelly never talked to the media before this year what a shame that is he is a great interview….luv that guy!

    Nice game TK!

    R Seymour’s career has been reduced to blocking kicks, cool keep ballin Rich….lmao

  142. Dakota Says:

    alex7 Says:
    December 24th, 2011 at 2:56 pm
    dakota, I believe the report suggested DMac doesn’t run a risk of re-injuring that tendon if he plays.

    At least no higher risk than any other player.

    It’s not like a break that could re-break if not properly healed. It’s a messed up tendon.

    ++++++++++++

    You must be thinking of Kobe lol.

  143. Raiders for life Says:

    DHB is gunning for that 1,000 yrd mark this season.

  144. Thec07 Says:

    det whupping SD azz nice and good…

  145. 504 Raider Says:

    Detroit 17-0 or SD.

  146. olinesux Says:

    if hasoup cant overthrow dhb i doubt palmer could

  147. Mum-O-killowe Says:

    Next week is why DMC was not put on IR. He will play vs chargless Dolts.

  148. olinesux Says:

    if jasoup cant catch dhb in stride i doubt palmer could, still dhb got it though!

  149. Thec07 Says:

    MistaBrown Says:
    December 24th, 2011 at 2:56 pm
    T Kelly never talked to the media before this year what a shame that is he is a great interview….luv that guy!

    Nice game TK!

    R Seymour’s career has been reduced to blocking kicks, cool keep ballin Rich….lmao
    ++++++

    Guy shows up when you go in on him…Keep up the work…

  150. 504 Raider Says:

    505 Are you not happy we won the game?

  151. beach Says:

    Alleluiah! Merry Christmas! Raider Nation lives to see another day!!!

  152. Mum-O-killowe Says:

    Olinesux Says:
    December 24th, 2011 at 2:59 pm
    if jasoup cant catch dhb in stride i doubt palmer could, still dhb got it though!

    Why? Palmer is a much better QB, Passer, and FB player. He thinks much faster too.

  153. SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:

    GOOD NEWS FELLAS….When it’s a 3team tie breaker; the rules are slightly altered. We have both the Jets and Titans edged with strength of victory. All we need is the Bengals to lose to the Ravens and to handle biz ourselves and we can snag the wildcard, though I’d much rather us win the division and host a game.

    American Football Conference
    CONF RK AFC W L T PCT DIV CONF SOS SOV REASON
    1 z – New England 12 3 0 .800 4-1-0 9-2-0 .455 .429 AFC East Champ
    2 x – Baltimore 11 4 0 .733 5-0-0 8-3-0 .473 .482 AFC North Champ (Wins tie break over Pittsburgh based on head-to-head win percentage.)
    3 z – Houston 10 5 0 .667 4-1-0 8-3-0 .439 .403 AFC South Champ
    4 Denver 8 7 0 .533 3-2-0 6-5-0 .527 .449 AFC West Champ (Wins tie break over Oakland based on best win percentage in common games.)
    5 x – Pittsburgh 11 4 0 .733 3-2-0 8-3-0 .507 .427
    6 Cincinnati 9 6 0 .600 2-3-0 6-5-0 .475 .328
    7 Oakland 8 7 0 .533 3-2-0 6-5-0 .507 .449 Wins tie break over Tennessee and NY Jets based on strength of victory.
    8 Tennessee 8 7 0 .533 2-3-0 6-5-0 .453 .375 Wins tie break over NY Jets based on best win percentage in common games.

  154. fingers Says:

    Yep… True.. We do have a meaningful game in week 17….. And some idiot posted… Fire Hue… Amazing ..

  155. Dakota Says:

    That game almost killed me, and I dropped a lot of Jezuz-fing-cripes on Christmas Eve, but still, MERRY CHRISTMAS!

    I need a tylenol and some boooooze.

  156. 504 Raider Says:

    @mywetdreams

    DMAC out running sprints after Jano kick.

    5 min ago via my satellite dish from my backyard.

  157. beach Says:

    San Diego will lose today, and we will humiliate them next Sunday!!!

  158. ghostraiders Says:

    Mcf20. … its going to be a good day.. I just spent. %100 on riveted steaks..LOL… I’m going to enjoy this win”"

  159. ghostraiders Says:

    $100 on ribeye steaks that is..

  160. Thec07 Says:

    I am not sure how it is going to happen however, somehow we are going to get into the tournament…

  161. beach Says:

    Palmer was huge in the 2nd half and OT!!! He is a winner!!!

  162. Raider E Says:

    If we win and Denver wins, the head to head, division, and conference records are all tied. The tie breaker is common opponents that we lose on. Basically the Miami games. They won and we lost. Broncos 4-4 in common games. We are 3-5 with Miami being the difference. Funny thing is we both won and lost to the exact same teams as far as non divisional common opponents games.

  163. olinesux Says:

    i agree palmer is better but he doesnt have the arm strength that soup has….

  164. alex7 Says:

    goodness Cable has turned that Seattle run game around.

  165. JT Says:

    Denver got exposed blown out today, and the chiefs have a better defense…

    OR Denver was looking ahead to chiefs game that determines division champ.

  166. Dakota Says:

    olinesux Says:
    December 24th, 2011 at 3:04 pm
    i agree palmer is better but he doesnt have the arm strength that soup has….
    +++++++++++

    Yeah, Palmer just throws the deep balls somewhere in the field of play, whereas JC throws them 5 yeards out of bounds.

  167. mcfadden20. Says:

    ghostraiders Says:
    December 24th, 2011 at 3:02 pm

    Mcf20. … its going to be a good day.. I just spent. %100 on riveted steaks..LOL… I’m going to enjoy this win””

    —-

    Damn you making me hungry… imma go get sumthing to eat
    talk to you guys later

  168. alex7 Says:

    oline,

    are you AIMING for worst comments of the year? Kind of a last-minute effort?

    JC was nicknamed “captain checkdown” in Washington for a reason, and it wasn’t arm strength.

  169. MistaBrown Says:

    Den is gripping hard Tebow wont handle the pressure and KC will pancake him next week.

  170. ghostraiders Says:

    When was the last time we were in position to make playoffs in week 17…???? I’m just happy were still relevant. .. we have decent chance even with last weeks fk up!!

  171. mcfadden20. Says:

    ghostraiders Says:
    December 24th, 2011 at 3:07 pm

    When was the last time we were in position to make playoffs in week 17…???? I’m just happy were still relevant. .. we have decent chance even with last weeks fk up!!


    Man we could have been up 1 had we won last week

  172. YoungAmerican Says:

    Arm strength is very, very, very overrated. Decision-making and accuracy are what makes a QB.

    JC makes safer choices with the ball, but sometimes the safe choice isn’t necessarily the right one. Carson makes a lot more bad decisions, but he’ll make plays that JC doesn’t.

    Accuracy is where Carson is clearly superior to JC, but he has to get better with his decision-making for his accuracy to matter.

  173. alex7 Says:

    or in Buffalo. That one was in the bag. 20 point lead.

  174. MistaBrown Says:

    “Hue, we will win it in the end”

    -Al Davis

  175. 505raiders Says:

    dude i am stoked that we won but this game should not have been close
    KC is a lesser opponent and we gave them every chance to beat us
    BIG TIME WIN none the less

  176. Raider E Says:

    Two things we got going for us. Orton has got to want to beat the Broncos badly and Ravens are trying to keep the second seed in the AFC.

  177. SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:

    MistaBrown Says:
    December 24th, 2011 at 3:06 pm
    Den is gripping hard Tebow wont handle the pressure and KC will pancake him next week.

    ———————

    It was weird cheering for us to pulverize the Chiefs; yet hoping we don’t hurt any of their key players so they’d be healthy next week!

  178. Thec07 Says:

    BUF, DEN, DET games…

  179. YoungAmerican Says:

    @VittorioTafur Vittorio Tafur
    Hue, on Raiders allowing Chiefs to drive down field twice at end of regulation — “That’s Raiders football right now … disappointed.”

    ———-

    Hue has to do what’s best for the team. Chuck Bresnahan has to go.

  180. MistaBrown Says:

    Mia
    _____

    Thec07 Says:
    December 24th, 2011 at 3:12 pm

    BUF, DEN, DET games…

  181. olinesux Says:

    not talking just about the deep ball guys, i like palmer better than jacheckdown and jaouttabounds thrower but compare the out route throws, curls slants…palmers throws have more elevation and take a bit longer to get there. doesnt mean anything until someone sits on the route….

  182. Thec07 Says:

    We should get back JFORD for next weeks game against the disc…

  183. antispy3 Says:

    #105, you’re on the right track.

    But, due to DMAC’s injury history I think a second this year & a conditional; as high as your requested first & third (likely linked to a playoff-superbowl scenario). . .

    So, let’s say for sake of argument the Vikings emerge as that team and the Raiders draft Lamar Miller of Miami. 5′11″, 212 with a world class burst. Not quite DMAC’s movement skills but combines with Bush & Jones you have a relatively cheap expenditure @ RB. . .

    And the Raiders meet the Vikings in the accompanying Superbowl. . .

    I can dream, can’t I?

  184. nwr8r Says:

    Point Chuck B in the direction of a good rib joint in KC and ditch him. Team leaves on the plane while he’s got BBQ sauce all over his face.

  185. Thec07 Says:

    I can tell you this, we get DMAC back for the Disc game, we will make some noise in the tournament…

  186. 504 Raider Says:

    179.YoungAmerican Says:
    December 24th, 2011 at 3:13 pm
    @VittorioTafur Vittorio Tafur
    Hue, on Raiders allowing Chiefs to drive down field twice at end of regulation — “That’s Raiders football right now … disappointed.”

    ———-

    Hue has to do what’s best for the team. Chuck Bresnahan has to go.
    ————————————————————————————————————–

    The Bus does not have hydrolics. That’s just Bresnahan underneath it.

  187. 505raiders Says:

    get off palmers nuts he aint that good
    he is what we paid for
    he has made plays but has not lead this team to victory
    until he does that to me he is a means to an end

  188. LTR Says:

    det 24-0

  189. Thec07 Says:

    WOW the disc getting kicked in the azz…

    Matthew stafford is dismantleling the disc…Great football weekend…

  190. JT Says:

    SD is down 24-0

    WTF…

  191. nwr8r Says:

    Marshawn Lynch runs very angry

  192. JT Says:

    we need tjones back next week, we ain’t doing it with bush alone….

  193. djohnnyg Says:

    189.Thec07 Says:
    December 24th, 2011 at 3:17 pm
    WOW the disc getting kicked in the azz…

    Matthew stafford is dismantleling the disc…Great football weekend…

    Thank you.

    FINALLY the Chargers put to rest for the season.

  194. Plunketthead Says:

    Lynch is a bully

  195. alex7 Says:

    Tarvaris Jackson developing into a legit QB.

  196. mcfadden20. Says:

    Lynch would look good in Silver and Black he’s embarrasing the Niners D

  197. DutchRaider77 Says:

    dude i am stoked that we won but this game should not have been close
    KC is a lesser opponent and we gave them every chance to beat us

    ______________________________________________________

    Yet, they beat the Packers? Let me guess the Packers are just overated?

  198. beach Says:

    Has it been determined if we have a tie-breaker vs. Tennessee?

  199. beach Says:

    187. Yea, a means to the playoffs, somewhere where Jason Campbell has never been.

  200. Thec07 Says:

    FINALLY the Chargers put to rest for the season.

    ++++

    Yeah they had been playing some good football however, DET is eating the snot out of them…

    The DET oline is giving stafford all day

  201. fingers Says:

    505…not sure how long you’ve been a Raider fan… But today’s game was a typical Raider / Chef game… Including penalties..

  202. Thec07 Says:

    Yet, they beat the Packers? Let me guess the Packers are just overated?

    +++++

    Packers suffered some key injuries to the oline that game…They are in deep schit…

  203. djohnnyg Says:

    Everybody’s saying it was Seymour but the article says Trevor Scott blocked that last FG attempt.

    Which is it?

  204. fingers Says:

    If I’m not mistaking I think Kc still leads us Head to head by 4 games..

  205. 505raiders Says:

    we see KC twice every year we know what they are about

    GB sees us and KC once in four years

    was that a must win for GB no

    GB o line is desimated by injury

    KC has a good front

    that could have been us

  206. Thec07 Says:

    KC has been eliminated…THEY ARE 6-9

  207. alex7 Says:

    Fingers might be referring to all-time record head to head.

  208. antispy3 Says:

    Here’s an ironic twist; New England was forced to start Logan Mankins @ LT due to the injury to Matt Light. Since Sebastian Vollner, the Patises regular RT was already hurt Nate Solder was subbing for him.

    Mankins left leg was fallen on & he left the game.

    So, like the Pack the Patsies may have problems keeping their QB upright in the playoffs. . .

  209. Thec07 Says:

    OK fingers, got it…

  210. fingers Says:

    Kc’s Oline did a pretty good job today…gonna need to pressure The Chokers more… Rattle Rivers…. Watch the media jump off the Charger bandwagon this week… Probley The Tebow bandwagon as well….

  211. fingers Says:

    Yes… Alltime .. I think Kc was up to 7 games ahead at onetime ..

  212. 505raiders Says:

    we have jump on them early TDs no FGs

  213. ChrisinNC Says:

    Guys, this playoff scenario is a mess. Basically, here’s how it stands:

    For the Wild Card:

    -We need the Bengals to lose
    -If the Titans win, we need the Jets to win. If the Titans lose, the Jets game is meaningless.

    For the Division:

    -We need the Broncos to lose AND we have to beat the Chargers.

    There’s your scenarios. Start praying..

  214. Thec07 Says:

    Anyway enjoy the holidays guys…Be safe and enjoy Victory monday…

    1 NATION…

  215. 505raiders Says:

    its the west or bust

  216. fingers Says:

    I gotta get too…peace to everyone… And a merry Christmas…
    Go Raiders…

  217. ChrisinNC Says:

    I’m uncertain as to why the Titans own the tiebreaker over us, as they are giving it to them based on best common game win percentage. The Titans have beaten the Broncos in one of those four games, and that’s why they get the edge over us. What I don’t understand is, why doesn’t our win against the Broncos count? Why is it just the loss that counts? Anyone have an idea?

  218. beach Says:

    It is really hard to give any love to Chuck B. Seymour spared us a miserable beginning to the offseason, thankfully. :)

  219. Kirk Says:

    One of the worst games I have ever seen.

    We really have some knuckleheads on our team.

  220. beach Says:

    Chris, No idea. Did I understand you right that if we finish 9-7 with Tenn and NYJ, we would get the wild card?

  221. LTR Says:

    I’m uncertain as to why the Titans own the tiebreaker over us, as they are giving it to them based on best common game win percentage. The Titans have beaten the Broncos in one of those four games, and that’s why they get the edge over us. What I don’t understand is, why doesn’t our win against the Broncos count? Why is it just the loss that counts? Anyone have an idea?
    —————————————
    This doesn’t make sense we beat houston and tenn already lost to them

  222. Blandafan Says:

    Who owns tie-breaker next week if Bengals lose and Raiders (and Denver) win?

    Link (new window)

  223. ChrisinNC Says:

    @Beach

    Yep, because there would be 4 teams tied at 9-7, and our strength of victory would be the winning factor. For some reason, if there’s only 3 teams (Titans, Raiders, Bengals), the Titans win the tiebreaker over the Bengals and over us before we get to the strength of victory tiebreaker (which we would win). So we need all 4 of us tied, or we need to only be tied with the Bengals or Bengals and Jets. We can’t tie with the Titans unless it’s 4 way.

  224. RaiderKen Says:

    I don’t know about the rest of you guys, but I want to get the wild card. This is my reasoning: West div. winner will play the best wild card team Pitt/Balt. worst wild card team plays the Texans. If that’s not enough then the worst of the winners plays the Pat’s, and the best of the winners plays Pitt/Balt.
    I like the senario where we Play the Texans and Pat’s over Pitt/Balt.

  225. ChrisinNC Says:

    @LTR

    I know, and it’s the best win percentage in a minimum of 4 common games. We only share 4 common games with the Titans (the minimum):

    -Titans lost to Houston, we beat Houston (+1 Raiders)
    -Titans beat Buffalo, we lost to Buffalo (-1 Raiders)
    -Titans beat Cleveland, we beat Cleveland (neutral)
    -Titans beat Denver, we lost to Denver (-1 Raiders)

    This is why they give the Titans the tiebreak. I don’t understand why our loss to Denver overrides our win, though.

  226. alex7 Says:

    Looks like we would have the wild-card tie-breaker vs Titans as it goes all the way down to 4th one: strength of schedule.

    Titans have played the Colts (twice), Bucs, and Panthers. Enough said.

  227. alex7 Says:

    Chris,

    what other tie-breaker do you have the Titans winning over us? Same conference schedule. Common games doesn’t factor in, as there aren’t 4 of them (unless you count Denver as the 4th, which we beat once, they beat once). Each have 3-1 record in common games.

  228. BewareofRaiders Says:

    We can win the division. I hope the chiefs are pissed off and destroy the broncos. Kyle Orton has a chance to get back at his old team and make elway look like a dumbass. But we can do it

  229. LTR Says:

    I don’t know about the rest of you guys, but I want to get the wild card. This is my reasoning: West div. winner will play the best wild card team Pitt/Balt. worst wild card team plays the Texans. If that’s not enough then the worst of the winners plays the Pat’s, and the best of the winners plays Pitt/Balt.
    I like the senario where we Play the Texans and Pat’s over Pitt/Balt.
    ——————————
    division winner plays worst wildcard record

  230. wasbanned Says:

    Could SD comeback?

  231. morilla Says:

    I hope Orton comes out with a chip on his shoulder against Denver. You know he wants that game.

  232. Plunketthead Says:

    To heck with the wild card.
    I want to be the AFC West Champion!!!!!

  233. morilla Says:

    Hali is going to have to watch his pass rush pursue or Teblow will have lanes all day.

  234. Raider guy Says:

    Because we are still in it going into the last week…best raider season in YEARS

  235. ChrisinNC Says:

    @Alex7

    That’s the one I’m talking about, the 4 common games. The Denver game does count, and for some reason, they are comparing our loss to Denver against Tennessee’s win against Denver. Our win against Denver does not matter in this situation, for some reason. Again, I do not understand why, but this is what happens if it’s a 3 way tie between us, the Bengals, and the Titans. The Titans eliminate the Bengals because of a better conference record, and the Titans eliminate us because of a better win record in common games. It never gets to strength of victory.

  236. ChrisinNC Says:

    I guess in the common game situation, a loss overrides a win if a team has played the common team twice.

  237. RaiderKen Says:

    LTR

    Texans won their division and will have a better record than either West division winner. Both those Div. winners play the wild card teams. Texans getting the team with the worst record and the West Div winner getting Pitt/Balt.

  238. ChrisinNC Says:

    I honestly wish I could ask someone in the NFL why this is the case. As reference, just check the ESPN Playoff Machine, and it explains why the Titans beat us in a 3 way tie.

  239. Plunketthead Says:

    How about that Lechler shovel pass for a TD. Lechler is dangerous

  240. morilla Says:

    Romeo is a great defensive minded coach. They can shut down the Broncos, they just need to score on that Defense.

    I can’t believe I am going to be a KC fan this week. I think I have a red shirt somewhere in my closet.

  241. Raiderjambo Says:

    This team doesn’t shoot itself in the foot, it damn well blows both feet off! Anyway a wins a win for all that, no matter what. Some observations fro the game:
    DHB is turning into a reliable receiver and comes to play everygame.(Thanks AL)
    Romac looks like he is favoring his right ankle and definately looks like he is playing hurt
    D at least came to play, but there is still room for improvement
    Jano is the man.(Thanks again AL)
    It’s still a great time to be a RAIDERFAN!

  242. Raiderjambo Says:

    Giordano has just as many receptions from Orton as the receivers he’s throwing to !

  243. BewareofRaiders Says:

    So if we win the west we play either Pitt or Baltimore?…hope we come to play and hope Run DMC is back

  244. morilla Says:

    Gio is a true Raider. The best player in that secondary along with Branch. Gio is always around the ball. It’s freaky.

  245. PlunkforHOF Says:

    I feel just like James Brown

  246. boss01 Says:

    Did hali even play today? Veldheer should be in the pro bowl after this performance…voting already in though

  247. wasbanned Says:

    ChrisinNC Says:
    December 24th, 2011 at 4:01 pm

    I honestly wish I could ask someone in the NFL why this is the case. As reference, just check the ESPN Playoff Machine, and it explains why the Titans beat us in a 3 way tie.
    ……

    Texans get Johnson and The DC back for Titans game. Maybe they can pull out the win.

  248. olinesux Says:

    watching the dvr, lechler was talking smack to thomas jones at the coin toss…”you’re not getting it back, youre not getting the ball back!”

  249. wasbanned Says:

    richeisen Rich Eisen
    Figuring out AFC wildcard is messy, but: CIN wins, they’re in. If DEN wins West and OAK still wins and it’s OAK/CIN/NYJ/TEN at 9-7, it’s OAK

    richeisen Rich Eisen
    If OAK wins West and CIN/NYJ/TEN are all 9-7 TEN goes. IF OAK wins West (or loses) TEN loses at HOU, CIN loses and Jets win…they go.

    By the way, the Ravens win sealed the Texans into the 3-seed. No bye for HOU. It’s either BAL or PIT for last AFC bye. NE clinched bye 2day.

  250. da trinity Says:

    All I can say is Curry is a hitter

  251. alex7 Says:

    Ravens very motivated next week vs Bengals.

  252. Raiders for life Says:

    Merry Christmas NATION….
    My heartbeat is normal now.

    RRRAAAAAIIIIIIDDDDDEEEERRRRRSSSSSSSSS

  253. GoodOle00 Says:

    Merry Christmas Raiders!~

    How about Matt Giordano? “Butch Coolidge”

    Crazy game and the refs have a lot to answer for. Ridiculous.

    Its like they knew Oakland was going to run their Jumbo pack and didn’t like it.

    Ran one play and got flagged. Ran it again the way the refs told them too and flagged again for another illegal formation.

    That Mike Carrey guy is always an A hole. Always know its gonna be a long day when that d bag is flaggin.

  254. boss01 Says:

    Reaiity finally set in on teblow….kc’s defense will shut him down and Orton will get some payback

  255. hendu Says:

    250,All I can say is RAIDERS

  256. GoodOle00 Says:

    254. Just as I foretold.

    Knew that the Pats cellar dwelling D exposed how to counter Tebow magic.

    Anytime they run that garbage option you hit Tebow. Let the pursuit take the pitch option YOU kill Tebow. The lowly Bills showed his reign is over…

  257. hendu Says:

    Merry Christmas to ALL!

  258. hendu Says:

    This team reminds me a bit of the Wild Card team in 80,just get IN, Raiders

  259. RaiderSam Says:

    Christmas came early….Reality set in on Tebow
    just find a way to get ahead, and once he has to throw to
    come back from a deficit – INTS reign….

  260. ChrisinNC Says:

    Our biggest challenge will be winning. I’m very curious to see whether or not they flex our game to Sunday Night (the first time we will have ever been on NBC’s Sunday Night Football, crazily enough) since it will be America’s darlings, the Chargers vs. the Raiders. NBC can flex any game this week, as none is set yet, and Dallas vs. NYG can’t be flexed since Dallas has already played the maximum of 3 times on Sunday night this year (that would have been their first choice). Not sure what other game they would flex, unless they choose Cincy and Baltimore, or Detroit vs. GB.

  261. RaiderSam Says:

    the Titans beat us in a 3 way tie.

  262. ChrisinNC Says:

    I think we should be flexed, since our team has not been on NBC SNF yet this year, or any year, and since we’ll potentially be fighting for a playoff spot. I’d love to see our boys on Sunday Night, in primetime, for all the marbles.

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  264. GG Says:

    They don’t count the Denver game we lost, they count the fact Raiders are .500 vs Denver, while Titans are 1.000 vs Denver.

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