Final: Chargers 38, Raiders 26
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Sunday, January 1st, 2012 at 5:29 pm in Oakland Raiders.
With some of the fan base chanting “ Denver lost, Denver lost,’’ the Raiders proved defenseless in their bid for an AFC West title, losing 38-26 to the san Diego Chargers at O.co Coliseum
Quarterback Philip Rivers threw three touchdown passes, Mike Tolbert had a 1-yard run, Richard Goodman returned a kickoff 105 yards and Nick Novak kicked a 51-yard field goal as San Diego forced their rivals to trudge off the field with the knowledge that a playoff opportunity had slipped away.
The Raiders (8-8) didn’t force San Diego to punt and offensively twice settled for field goals on red zone opportunities.
Sebastian Janikowski connected on field goals of 52, 47, 27 and 32 yards without a miss to go along with touchdown pass by Carson Palmer of 3 yards to Darrius Heyward-Bey and 23 yards to tight end Kevin Boss.
The Broncos, Raiders and Chargers finish 8-8, with Denver winning the division on tiebreaking procedures.
Denver lost 7-3 in Kansas City , creating the opportunity upon which Oakland failed to capitalize.
Oakland was within 31-6 after the Palmer-to-Boss touchdown with 9:37 left, and after a San Diego personal foul, the Raiders kicked off from the 50-yard line and nearly had a game-altering safety.
Janikowski hit pooch kick to Goodman, who first mishandled the ball, then attempted to bring it out of the end zone. He managed to get to the half-yard line.
Rivers then immediately got San Diego out of trouble with a 19-yard pass to Malcom Floyd, Mike Tolbert broke off a 40-yard run, San Diego scored on a 43-yard Rivers to Floyd pass.
The 99-yard drive summed up the season.
The Chargers led 24-13 at halftime as Rivers completed 11 of 17 passes for 171 yards, including the 38-yard touchdown strike to Gates.
Goodman’s 105-yard kickoff return for a touchdown was the first Oakland allowed in 28 games, dating back to a 102-yard return in Week 3 of last season by LeRod Stephens-Howling of Arizona .
The Raiders mismanaged the clock at the end of the half and failed to get off a 58-yard attempt by Janikowski, with Palmer completing 6-yard pass to Louis Murphy to the 38-yard line with eight seconds left and no timeouts and failing to get the ball spiked before time expired.
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January 1st, 2012 at 5:29 pm
Fire. Me. Please.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:29 pm
I am ashamed
January 1st, 2012 at 5:30 pm
When will the culture change…
January 1st, 2012 at 5:30 pm
Everybody remember to tweet Taiwan and tell him what a total wimp he is. Dude could’ve suited up. Guess winning just doesn’t important.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:30 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 5:28 pm
Contrary to popular opinion, SD certainly did show up.
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I told people all week that it would be typical Norv and San Diego to play their best with nothing on the line.
We needed San Diego to face pressure today. They fold under pressure.
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Very true. I was afraid of Norv having absolutely nothing to lose in this one since he’s gone anyway.
If the Chargers had something to play for he calls a run on that play at the half-yard line and we probably stuff it for a safety.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:30 pm
Good. Now clean house on D. Start with the DC…
January 1st, 2012 at 5:30 pm
Hue Jackson needs to go.
I hope new GM takes care of business.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:31 pm
If we could find a high-quality replacement, Hue should be fired.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:31 pm
Duck – that’s on the staff not the player.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:31 pm
you will see alex, no firings until gm is hired, and then you’ll see a decisive cleanout that includes hue.
john madden has not been impressed with hue this season whatsoever.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:32 pm
It’s alright guys. Cheer up. We weren’t going anywhere in the playoffs with this D. And the Steelers coming to town? Palmer might get injured in that game.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:32 pm
The O is going to be awesome,
Get rid of Bresh, and the non performing assets on the defense…
Very Toguh Loss
January 1st, 2012 at 5:32 pm
That defense could not contain a high school JV team..
January 1st, 2012 at 5:32 pm
322.morilla Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 5:28 pm
Palmer had a good game, that pik was on Ford.
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That’s true.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:32 pm
Thanks folks for the memories this year…time to clean house blow up the secondary and the DC and the rest of the Defense is on notice…Wimbley was painfully out of place in coverage
January 1st, 2012 at 5:32 pm
wish we threw it to heybey not murph. He was 15 yards off of 1000 i believe. Lets move huff to fulltime cb. this loss kills
January 1st, 2012 at 5:32 pm
has chuck beaverhands been deported to afghanistan yet?
January 1st, 2012 at 5:32 pm
Our division record worsened, home record is worse, penalties way up, and discipline way down, clock and game management beyond laughable all year.
Not sure what Hue’s argument is to keep his job, other than he is a rookie HC who “should” improve.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:32 pm
GG Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 5:25 pm
palmer was definitely the wasted. 2012 1st, 2013 2nd. for a 3-6 (overall) and 1-4 (finishing stretch) record under his watch.
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We face the truth bravely.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:32 pm
Guys our offense play more than well-enough to win for most teams. Our defense however didn’t even force San Diego to one 3 n OUT
January 1st, 2012 at 5:33 pm
At least we have draft picks…oh yeah, not.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:33 pm
FIRE CHUCK B – FIRE CHUCK B – The Defense is the total reason the Raiders season is OVER. F the DEFENSE FIRE CHUCK B – I am so infuriated right now. Utterly disgusted as the way this season has ended. FIRE CHUCK-B. FIRE CHUCK B. Offense next year will play well with Palmer, McFadden, DHB (stop dropping passes), D Morre, J Ford, M Reese. Sea Bass and Lecher ++++ FIRE CHUCK B – FIRE CHUCK B
January 1st, 2012 at 5:33 pm
Going to the playoffs might distract from the fact that this team has serious flaws, mainly on defense. This loss wil leave no doubt that major changes are needed.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:33 pm
This loss is NOT on Hue Jackson, although the botched end of the first half was his fault.
This loss is on a roster filled with marginal talent, who have no discipline.
This loss is on a defensive coordinator who wasn’t even qualified to hold a position in the UFL.
Like it or not, the Raiders do not belong in the playoffs yet. The Steelers would have destroyed them.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:33 pm
with season on the line,
we gave up 98 yard drive
and 99.5 yard drive.
Only 1 change coming this off-season.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:34 pm
Kam Wimbley manhandled by Philip Rivers on that last reverse?
Wimbley = horrendous contract and signing
January 1st, 2012 at 5:34 pm
New Year Resolution = Fire Chuck
January 1st, 2012 at 5:34 pm
I am really going to enjoy the utter destruction of Denver at home in the first playoff game
January 1st, 2012 at 5:34 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 5:32 pm
Our division record worsened, home record is worse, penalties way up, and discipline way down, clock and game management beyond laughable all year.
Not sure what Hue’s argument is to keep his job, other than he is a rookie HC who “should” improve.
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To much on his plate?
January 1st, 2012 at 5:34 pm
Pathetic D = watching playoffs at home
January 1st, 2012 at 5:34 pm
Good day to be a punter for the Chargers,,easiest pay check earned all year.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:34 pm
Wasbanned Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 5:30 pm
Hue Jackson needs to go.
I hope new GM takes care of business.
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Yeah we need an HC that can put up 38 points a game
January 1st, 2012 at 5:34 pm
Aaron Curry on that toss play showed why he is a fringe NFL LB.
Out of this world talent, and complete mush between the ears.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:34 pm
342.wasbanned Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 5:30 pm
Hue Jackson needs to go.
I hope new GM takes care of business.
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We most definitely need a strong GM who has the power to hire and fire coaches.
Jackson’s play call at the end of the first half got to me.
Eleven seconds left, they’re trying to set it up for Sebass, and they throw down the middle?!
January 1st, 2012 at 5:34 pm
the is no playoffs for this team – IT IS OVER
January 1st, 2012 at 5:35 pm
huejaxazs needs to go….this offense will not be good nect year, they dont even wanna play….my foot hurts…my foot hurts too…buncha primadonnas
January 1st, 2012 at 5:35 pm
Chris In NY Says:
Very true. I was afraid of Norv having absolutely nothing to lose in this one since he’s gone anyway.
If the Chargers had something to play for he calls a run on that play at the half-yard line and we probably stuff it for a safety.
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Well, if the Raiders can’t beat a team playing at an NFL level, then they don’t deserve it anyway. I didn’t want the Chargers to lay down for us. It would have just covered up all the problems for one week, and then Pittsburgh or whoever would have exposed this team for the fraudulent playoff team it was.
Now all of the coaches and players weaknesses were on full display. Next step, hire a GM. Then clean house. From top to bottom.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:35 pm
The HC left half the team in the lockeroom. It’s called the defense. Here’s a tip for next year – make the other team have to punt. At least once.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:35 pm
We had them at the one frickin foot line.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:35 pm
silverandblack
those things happen when your D goes from 11th to 28th-ranked.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:36 pm
342.wasbanned Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 5:30 pm
Hue Jackson needs to go.
I hope new GM takes care of business.
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We most definitely need a strong GM who has the power to hire and fire coaches.
Jackson’s play call at the end of the first half got to me.
Eleven seconds left, they’re trying to set it up for Sebass, and they throw down the middle?!
January 1st, 2012 at 5:36 pm
hue has the power he has had since the texans game…still he never got rid of sucky b….
January 1st, 2012 at 5:36 pm
Good thing Soup and Darren McFadden remained active all year.
Meanwhile, Sterling Moore was returning pick 6’s today.
But you know, who needs a promising cover DB when you can have 7 WR’s?
January 1st, 2012 at 5:36 pm
Yeah, Steve. We’re going to roll over the Chargers.
Great prediction, Chet…
January 1st, 2012 at 5:36 pm
seriously no mas
99.5 yards with season on the line. And it was EASY for SD.
after 98 yards vs Detroit
and the KC late-game meltdown.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:36 pm
Worst d in the league… mush for brains
January 1st, 2012 at 5:37 pm
Effing Bresnahan better be on a bus as I type this. 4 or 5 of his starters on D might as well list their homes right now too. What a pathetic effort in a big game by that Swiss cheese defense. Unbelievable.
And where was the pressure from our vaunted front four?
January 1st, 2012 at 5:37 pm
And the season just dissolves into a puddle of goo.
If we can ever stop hurting ourselves we will be pretty good. Bitterly disappointing end to a season that once had so much promise. I don’t see any scenario by where bresnahan keeps his job- defense was just awful
January 1st, 2012 at 5:37 pm
End of the first half was inexcusable. I am questioning Hue for the first time, WTF
January 1st, 2012 at 5:37 pm
the first drive bush is running great the next airhue comes out
January 1st, 2012 at 5:37 pm
HUE MUST GO!
January 1st, 2012 at 5:37 pm
Spend all draft picks on the D. Go into free agency and spend on the D. Oh and fire the HC…
January 1st, 2012 at 5:38 pm
I can’t even blame the refs.. if anything they gave us breaks..
January 1st, 2012 at 5:38 pm
Alex7 Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 5:36 pm
seriously no mas
99.5 yards with season on the line. And it was EASY for SD.
after 98 yards vs Detroit
and the KC late-game meltdown.
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How many of those yards were big plays???
Our D sucs donkey and horse dic
January 1st, 2012 at 5:38 pm
JFB
Al didn’t like slower smart players, which is why Moore was cut.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:38 pm
Plunk-It Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 5:29 pm
Dam thats classless did Hue just diss Norv at midfield by not even showing up for
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Hue was hightailing it out of town like the flimflam man that he is.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:38 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 5:32 pm
Our division record worsened, home record is worse, penalties way up, and discipline way down, clock and game management beyond laughable all year.
Not sure what Hue’s argument is to keep his job, other than he is a rookie HC who “should” improve.
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exactly.
the silver lining is we’re only days away from a major GM announcement and it wont be long before we start seeing the changes rung in.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:38 pm
Those of us calling for Chucky B’s head on the unemployment line, no worries there is no way a performance like that goes unnoticed.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:38 pm
hue not shaking norvs hand what a punk….
January 1st, 2012 at 5:38 pm
I remember being 7-4 and in first place.
Hire Jeff Fischer!!
January 1st, 2012 at 5:38 pm
Hue gets another year. He aint going anywhere.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:39 pm
This reminds me of the collapse of Coach White? I believe I think we were also at 7-4 and finished 7-9. I think it was before the Gruden era
January 1st, 2012 at 5:39 pm
We don’t need another beat down by the Steelers right now. We can make a run next year. All is not lost. The only thing that matters in the NFL is whether or not you win the Super Bowl. No one remembers who played in the divisional round. We were not winning the Super Bowl with this team and staff – the Packers game clearly demonstrated that.
Although we don’t have high draft picks, we do have some later picks, and the comp picks, so we can try to shore up some spots.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:39 pm
hue saying …”its my responsability”
January 1st, 2012 at 5:39 pm
Classless move Hue.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:39 pm
I like when the Raiders play on the road better. That stadium is so depressing sometimes.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:39 pm
Apparently Spags just became available. We should hire him right now as D coordinator.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:39 pm
0 sacks and 1 QB hit (on the 2nd play of the game) all freaking game long.
No edge rushers.
Houston regressed massively this year, IMO, and Wimbley is either great or horrible, no in between.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:39 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 5:32 pm
322.morilla Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 5:28 pm
Palmer had a good game, that pik was on Ford.
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That’s true.
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Absolutely. Palmer played very well. Threw for over 400 yards. Averaged close to 10 yards per attempt.
Ford slipped. It happens.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:39 pm
Fire Bres Now – Hire Spags NOW!
January 1st, 2012 at 5:40 pm
So,,,,,,um,,do we start talking about the draft?
January 1st, 2012 at 5:40 pm
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We most definitely need a strong GM who has the power to hire and fire coaches.
Jackson’s play call at the end of the first half got to me.
Eleven seconds left, they’re trying to set it up for Sebass, and they throw down the middle?!
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If Murphy was smart he’d drop that!
January 1st, 2012 at 5:40 pm
only 9 out of 31 teams scored more than Oakland today.
Offense with entire off-season will go from top-12 to top-5.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:40 pm
Tebow plays awful, Broncos lose last three games, and Raiders still cannot win the division.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:40 pm
“teams dont lay down this is pro football…” (except your team hue)
January 1st, 2012 at 5:40 pm
Firehue Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 5:38 pm
hue not shaking norvs hand what a punk….
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fck norv…
January 1st, 2012 at 5:40 pm
So,,,,,,um,,do we start talking about the draft?
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Yeah, let’s talk about all the draft picks we don’t have
January 1st, 2012 at 5:41 pm
Seriously F-in pissed when I think about it. The Defense has been the dead anchor of this team. All year long. It’s unreal and unheard of. Clean the F-in house, it’s embarrassing. Would have been nice to get in to the playoffs, but we would have been one and done with that defense. Absolutely horrible from top to bottom all year long.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:41 pm
Guys we don’t deserve the playoffs, the defense is so pathetic it is not NFL level it is arena level. I want to see a 3-4 with aggressive steeler type football, it has been so long since the raiders had an aggressive defense, if I recall woodson was part of the secondary then.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:41 pm
I hope Mark is on the phone right now. The offseason has just begun.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:41 pm
hue’s true colors have come out the last month, and today.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:41 pm
only 9 out of 31 teams scored more than Oakland today.
Offense with entire off-season will go from top-12 to top-5..
January 1st, 2012 at 5:41 pm
Not getting that field goal try off at the end of the first half and calling time-outs at bad times…Hue better get his act together for next year and delegate some responsibility to whoever his assistants will be.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:41 pm
id take norv over hue…
January 1st, 2012 at 5:41 pm
I incorrectly predicted this team would go 7 and 9, yet correctly predicted they would never, ever make the playoffs, simply because Hue the Magnificient is too fricken stupid to be a head coach in the NFL, (proven again today)and is better suited as a snake oil salesman, or pastor in a tent revival. The guy is a total joke – even he knows it – why not hire Cable, who probably would have won the West ???
GET RID OF STINK AL’S TAINT ONCE IN FOR ALL !!!
Hopefully this season will be fodder for Mark and Amy to blow up the Raiders and hire a best-in-the-business GM, Head Coach, Offensive and Defensive Co-ordinators. Most of the roster should be cut and or traded, including all the crappy CB’s, linebackers, Richard Seymour, etc.
Anyway, we’ll see….my final question: who the hell is Jerome Boyd ?? only Hue would hire him.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:42 pm
Give Hue another shot – Offense looks promising. FIRE CHUCK B – FIRE CHUCK B – This defense has cost us a number of games – yes the offense became anemic in those games, but the defense did nothing to help the cause. FIRE CHUCK B – FIRE CHUCK B – Spag’s of the Rams – talks of going to the Eagles, Raiders should grab him. FIRE CHUCK B
January 1st, 2012 at 5:42 pm
Hue is an O coordinator, simple as that to run a team takes so much more management skills, sorry he doesnt have them
January 1st, 2012 at 5:42 pm
D melted vs Bills.
D melted vs Lions.
D melted vs Broncos.
D melted vs Chargers.
that’s the reason we’re not in the playoffs.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:42 pm
The only thing that matters in the NFL is whether or not you win the Super Bowl.
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Yeah maybe to the Patriots, Steelers, Saints and Packers.
When you have the 2nd longest playoff drought in the NFL, and all you have to do is win a home game to make the playoffs, this is an epic failure.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:42 pm
Firehue Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 5:41 pm
id take norv over hue…
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FK norv
January 1st, 2012 at 5:43 pm
GG Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 5:41 pm
hue’s true colors have come out the last month, and today.
Hollywood Hue “Exposed”…..
January 1st, 2012 at 5:43 pm
eff hue….”we had to win this game…we understood that” uh no hue they didnt…
January 1st, 2012 at 5:43 pm
Alex7 Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 5:42 pm
D melted vs Bills.
D melted vs Lions.
D melted vs Broncos.
D melted vs Chargers.
that’s the reason we’re not in the playoffs.
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Truth..No other reason…
January 1st, 2012 at 5:44 pm
RaidingTexas Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 5:35 pm
Chris In NY Says:
Very true. I was afraid of Norv having absolutely nothing to lose in this one since he’s gone anyway.
If the Chargers had something to play for he calls a run on that play at the half-yard line and we probably stuff it for a safety.
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No. Norv knew that he could get away with throwing it there cuz he knows this defense is a collective piece of sh*t.
Very simple.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:44 pm
3-4 defensive line next year should be Houston, Shonasty, and a new nose tackle.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:44 pm
Alex7 Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 5:42 pm
D melted vs Bills.
D melted vs Lions.
D melted vs Broncos.
D melted vs Chargers.
that’s the reason we’re not in the playoffs.
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Let’s not forget the games they barely squeaked by either. Could have easily of lost those as well.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:44 pm
If we stay 4-3, I being saying all year, bring mike Nolan back to the coast, actually wouldn’t mind seeing him as head coach
January 1st, 2012 at 5:45 pm
Truth at #88…Time for a house cleaning on D…Starting with Chucky B!
January 1st, 2012 at 5:45 pm
firehue Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 5:37 pm
the first drive bush is running great the next airhue comes out
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Bush hasn’t run great in about 5 weeks. We were moving the ball OK, but Bush was plodding into the hole and going down on first contact 95% of the time.
No way is he worth the franchise tag or a big contract.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:45 pm
I’m sure if the Raiders got that safety, the defense still would have blown it at the end of the game.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:45 pm
Let Bush go and bring in Peyton Hillis
January 1st, 2012 at 5:45 pm
id take norv over hue…
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Would Norv take the OC job at Oak?
January 1st, 2012 at 5:46 pm
true Chris
Bush wore down worse than I thought he would, and I’ve been saying Bush is no better than Tolbert since last year.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:46 pm
jerry ask hue if dmc is practicing next week
January 1st, 2012 at 5:46 pm
Anyhow tough loss… All you guys take care and be safe…
1 NATION
January 1st, 2012 at 5:46 pm
Fire Bresnehand! The 99.5 yard collapse heard round the world! Forever remembered as the Defensive vacum that unleashed Tebow into the playoff after lossong 3 in a row.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:46 pm
The GREAT news is we still have Madden Retard to smack around at our leisure
I mean, where’s he going to go? At mom’s he has free internet, running water and steady breast feeding.
Getting PUMPED for the Lake Show representation proclamation, whom let the canines out?
January 1st, 2012 at 5:46 pm
We might have to switch to a 3-4 next year. Our LBs sure can’t play in a 4-3.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:46 pm
F Hue and bring in Norv – what are you f’ng crazy look what he had done to the chargers. And remember he had his stint as Raiders C — Hue if you want to lead this team FIRE CHUCK B
January 1st, 2012 at 5:46 pm
We gave up 153 yards rushing today, and 128 came in the 4th quarter.
How on earth does that happen?
January 1st, 2012 at 5:47 pm
What dissapointing effort , same crappy defensive scheme for Chuck B . He needs to go , and he can take Hugh with him . Hugh proved as to why there hasnt been many successful African American head coaches . Cannot manage a game properly . Stick to motivating Hugh , it’s obvious you are way in over your head as a head coach with multiple tasks …
Bring on Bill Cowher please !!!
January 1st, 2012 at 5:47 pm
Don’t worry.
Hue will take responsibility for this.
That should make everyone feel better.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:47 pm
NyRaider_justwin Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 5:42 pm
Give Hue another shot – Offense looks promising.
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That offense that disappeared for long stretches of the season? No thank you. They are only a “top-12″ offense because of garbage time points in their blowout losses.
Hue’s offense alternates between predictable plays and gimmick plays that fail more often than they work.
Get rid of him before we suffer through another season of this crap. Put Al’s legacy behind us once and for all.
CLEAN HOUSE AND BUILD A TEAM THAT WILL PROTECT ITS HOUSE!!!
January 1st, 2012 at 5:47 pm
fk norv..He is on his way to NY jest, to be the oco
January 1st, 2012 at 5:47 pm
Hue Jackson just mentioned in his press conference that McFadden is now ready to play. Oh chucks seasons over on well losers
January 1st, 2012 at 5:47 pm
The huge run by tolbert epitomizes this horrid d, the raiders have the dumbest defense in the nfl, and believe I think they also just tuned out chuck b, you can see it totally unprepared, no emotion, and of course zero brains
January 1st, 2012 at 5:47 pm
yeah norv would, but not with hue acting like a daym punk
January 1st, 2012 at 5:47 pm
Should have fired Bresh at halftime
January 1st, 2012 at 5:48 pm
We might have to switch to a 3-4 next year. Our LBs sure can’t play in a 4-3.
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So we should go to an alignmen that is LB dependant and put ANOTHER LB on the field?
January 1st, 2012 at 5:48 pm
fk norv turner and the disc
January 1st, 2012 at 5:48 pm
110.Just Fire Baby Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 5:46 pm
We gave up 153 yards rushing today, and 128 came in the 4th quarter.
How on earth does that happen?
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Becuz this defense is a pathetic POS. PERIOD.
Worst defense I HAVE EVER SEEN.
I don’t where they rank. They are the worst.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:48 pm
whet your lips if we score eliot wolf and/or reggie mckenzie.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:48 pm
#104: Lol…I bet he’ll be ready to run tomorrow.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:48 pm
So we all finished 8-8 what place do we get for draft picks and next years shedule?
January 1st, 2012 at 5:49 pm
128 in the fourth that is freakin crazy
January 1st, 2012 at 5:49 pm
Bring in Romanowski as DC we need boar hunters on that defense!!
January 1st, 2012 at 5:49 pm
Deeznutz Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 5:47 pm
What dissapointing effort , same crappy defensive scheme for Chuck B . He needs to go , and he can take Hugh with him . Hugh proved as to why there hasnt been many successful African American head coaches . Cannot manage a game properly . Stick to motivating Hugh , it’s obvious you are way in over your head as a head coach with multiple tasks …
Bring on Bill Cowher please !!!
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This is why I an always suspicious of the Hue haters.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:49 pm
only 9 of 32 teams score more points than Oakland today.
Offense despite injuries to starters at QB, RB, WR, TE is 12th in points scored? Amazing effort.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:49 pm
No Draft picks we gave them all up. Read into it before asking silly questions.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:49 pm
Stan Routt had a horrible month down the stretch.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:49 pm
all the Hue haters…..let me tell you this, He isnt going anywhere
disappointed in a few key players
1. Routt, I never thought he was great, but has not earned his salary as well as the title of the #1 CB
2. Wimbley, I was a huge fan last year, but besides one game, he has done absolutely nothing.
3. Huff, I cant judge him without saying he has been injured all season, but he hasnet played a good game all year.
4. Seymour, the Dline looked gased towards the end of the year, but seymour looked gased at the start of the year.
I bring these 4 names up, because they are our Highest paid defenders. And i dont mean to beat a dead horse, but all those saying we can get3-4 good players for Nnamdi are looking stupid.
next year, Pay them to do there Fking job….Id rather have a compotent Nnamdi out there, and you know what you are going to get, rather then those 4 players that show up every once and awhile
January 1st, 2012 at 5:49 pm
Its all good. Hue “thinks we can win” Opps
January 1st, 2012 at 5:49 pm
My quick thoughts on the O:
1) We have a QB, there is hope
2) We need to have more than 1 RB. With DMac healthy we would have made the playoffs.
3) We need a Vet WR, and a healthy WR crew.
4) Oline can improve, yet plays at a good level.
5) Playcalling will improve as Hue, Palmer and the young WRs get a flow…
January 1st, 2012 at 5:50 pm
That truly was the worst defensive performance by a Raider team since they lost to Buffalo 51-3.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:50 pm
RaidingTexas Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 5:47 pm
NyRaider_justwin Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 5:42 pm
Give Hue another shot – Offense looks promising.
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That offense that disappeared for long stretches of the season? No thank you. They are only a “top-12″ offense because of garbage time points in their blowout losses.
Hue’s offense alternates between predictable plays and gimmick plays that fail more often than they work.
Get rid of him before we suffer through another season of this crap. Put Al’s legacy behind us once and for all.
CLEAN HOUSE AND BUILD A TEAM THAT WILL PROTECT ITS HOUSE!!!
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exactly. why alex is blind. collate the stats for 1st half. and don’t forget that 5 game stretch no 4th qtr points at all.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:50 pm
Not confident Hue will be let go because Al aint there to do it and we know nothing of Mark Davis..1 things for sure Chuck woulda been fired on his way off the field today.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:50 pm
Thec07 Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 5:47 pm
Should have fired Bresh at halftime
Halftime of the Bills game……
January 1st, 2012 at 5:50 pm
lol, Lito Sheppard toast highlights on Fox right now.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:50 pm
The RAIDERS SUX…. I cannot believe I wasted my time on this team. Pathetic pieces of c***. Praise the lord at least they did get the record for most yards penalized yards and most penalties (163 at my last count with 2:00 minutes left in game) I will never waste my time watching this team again. For over thirty-seven years I wasted my time. No more I am Freakin done. May the good Lord bless those idiots who continue to watch this thing impersonating a professional team.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:50 pm
Raider Nation-Station
Hue says he is pissed at team. He should be. Looked listless. Wonder how many stayed up late like Stan Routt?
Raider Nation-Station Hue says “This team needs an attitude adjustment.” And some roster adjustments probably too…
January 1st, 2012 at 5:50 pm
Need to get rid of McClain. He is way overated and someone please punch chuck b in the face
January 1st, 2012 at 5:50 pm
hire romo eff bresnahan
January 1st, 2012 at 5:51 pm
I was astounded that almost 90% of all Raider 1st downs were Bush up the middle for almost no gain. Hue has no balls: when Bush can’t be freed, challenge with the pass; string the field out and then Bush could be busted out for a long run. Hue is totally non-creative garbage. And what about the genius Al Saunders, he has no say as an “offensive consultant”?
January 1st, 2012 at 5:51 pm
firehue Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 5:41 pm
id take norv over hue…
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You’re kidding, right?
The Norv show was 10x more depressing … and that’s saying alot.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:51 pm
Where was the pressure on Rivers?
January 1st, 2012 at 5:51 pm
We get a new GM Coach Jackson stays no matter what…
January 1st, 2012 at 5:51 pm
GG
lol, why does it matter when you score your points?
What difference does it make if you score 30 in the 1st and none the rest of the game…
or if you score 30 in the 4th?
You still have to hold the other team to less than 30.
Knuckleheads.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:51 pm
Deeznutz Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 5:47 pm
What dissapointing effort , same crappy defensive scheme for Chuck B . He needs to go , and he can take Hugh with him . Hugh proved as to why there hasnt been many successful African American head coaches . Cannot manage a game properly . Stick to motivating Hugh , it’s obvious you are way in over your head as a head coach with multiple tasks …
Bring on Bill Cowher please !!!
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You’re saying you wouldn’t want Tony Dungy or Mike Tomlin? Idiot
January 1st, 2012 at 5:51 pm
What is wrong with you people. Give up on this team. What have they done for you? Ill tell you waste your time and make you feel miserable. Follow my lead and walk away. I will be your moses and take you to the promise land…..abandon ship
January 1st, 2012 at 5:51 pm
The greatness of the Raiders is in its future. WHEN!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
January 1st, 2012 at 5:51 pm
My quick thoughts on the D:
1) Replace the DC!!!!
2) Replace the DC!!!
3) Need another natural OLB. Need Slowlando to speed up.
4) Need a NT!
5) Need Corners.
6) Branch a keeper. Gio a good Vet…Need another Safety.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:52 pm
We need to get the idiots off the field, even if their talent is promising and make the occasional big play.
MM34, Seymour and Curry are at the top of my list.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:52 pm
NEED to get rid of the money ball guys on D. Give that money to guys who can perform…A real GM will be able to figure that out…
January 1st, 2012 at 5:52 pm
hue…”we’ve been hanging on on defense all year long” but still you dumbf you didnt get rid of him when you had your opportunity
January 1st, 2012 at 5:52 pm
Bresnehan needs to return his paycheck to Mark Davis for not doing his job correctly
January 1st, 2012 at 5:52 pm
GG
lol, why does it matter when you score your points?
What difference does it make if you score 30 in the 1st and none the rest of the game…
or if you score all 30 in the 4th?
You still have to hold the other team to less than 30.
Knuckleheads..
January 1st, 2012 at 5:52 pm
Hue will stay, he deserves another year. He’s dealt with a lot this year as a rookie HC. The rest can be torn apart.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:52 pm
I am done ranting as with this last post – my season is officially over – FIRE CHUCK B
Be Good RAIDER NATION – till opening day next year.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:52 pm
I beg your pardon.
We still have draft picks and we may get an easier shedule.
Its a good question.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:53 pm
al d. davis Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 5:51 pm
I was astounded that almost 90% of all Raider 1st downs were Bush up the middle for almost no gain. Hue has no balls
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preach it!
January 1st, 2012 at 5:53 pm
lol, caring about what quarter points were scored.
Phenomenally dumb.
you hold your opponents to less than you score, no matter when you scored them.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:53 pm
135. You mean the offense missing its starting QB, Run DMC, Jacoby Ford and Denarius Moore for much of the season?
Oakalnd did the best it could with what it had but todays toasting was ridiculous.
Seriously, how many of those Raiders drank last night?
January 1st, 2012 at 5:53 pm
Chuck B inherits all the blame? really ???
you’ve GOT to be joking …
did Chuck mismanage the clock?
did Chuck throw that last INT?
did Chuck allow that TD on special teams?
January 1st, 2012 at 5:53 pm
The disc went 99.5 yards, and we want to whack the HC…
How about we whack all the defenders on the field of play, and the dco???
January 1st, 2012 at 5:53 pm
Tom Cable was fired because 8-8 wasn’t good enough. Hue Jackson did not improve this team.
They played harder for Cable and did more with less under him.
Hue Jackson must be fired. Anyone on the coaching staff hired by Al Davis must be fired.
This team needs a clean break from the Al Davis era and needs a clean slate to start.
NEW GM AND NEW STAFF!
January 1st, 2012 at 5:54 pm
Can’t pin it on Hue. Offense had what, 500+ yards of offense today? Hue’s the play-caller and offensive coach. Yes, he’s the head coach, but we all know that’s not his side of the ball.
Offense has been lightyears better these last two seasons. I give Hue credit for that and that’s why he needs to stay. We need a real d coordinator and maybe need to clean house some on that side of the ball in terms of personnel.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:54 pm
keep nitpicking, knuckleheads. absolute comedy.
HOW we gained our first downs. LOL.
Meanwhile, you racists, ignore that SD didn’t punt all day.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:54 pm
San Diego finished above us actually. 4th tiebreaker: Better Conference percentage
January 1st, 2012 at 5:54 pm
you guys pleading for hue, you dont realize mckenzie and/or eliot wolf is by far a bigger coup. hue is just another coach. there are plenty out there. it starts further at the top. be extremely excited if we get mckenzie/wolf. we’ll be a super bowl winner within 2-3 years like they built the packers.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:54 pm
Need to get rid of McClain. He is way overated and someone please punch
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He was the only one who played well on defense, and I didn’t see him miss a tackle all day.
Hell, even on the TD to Vincent Jackson, he had him covered better than our DB’s.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:54 pm
Raiders do not get a pick until the 5th Round – So read up before you beg my pardon
January 1st, 2012 at 5:55 pm
If I were Mark I would greet the team with my axe handle: first on the list would be Hue, then Bres, then Seymour, then McClain, Rout, Shepard, Satele, DHB, and many more.
Talk about a hit on a defensive-less player, I would make sure their heads were swelled up for a month.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:55 pm
again
Hue’s O is the ONLY REASON we stopped having our normal 5-11 seasons.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:55 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 5:53 pm
Chuck B inherits all the blame? really ???
you’ve GOT to be joking …
did Chuck mismanage the clock?
did Chuck throw that last INT?
did Chuck allow that TD on special teams?
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Are you kidding? Did Chuck B’s defense force one punt all game? They allowed a 99.5 yard TD drive when the offense had just pulled us within 5 and we still had a real chance to win the game.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:55 pm
At this point the Raiders are adrift. I do have some hope that Mark Davis will make the right decision, he has some decent advisors to show him the way. It will start with a good GM (McKenzie, Wolf Jr.?). With the right leadership we could make great strides.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:55 pm
Fire the head coach and defensive coordinator immediately- Ge the players that are capable of winning and playing as such.
This team has disrespected it’s fans- We supported you Hue cause you asked us to stand behiond you and you proved to be a fraud and a faker.
You are not yet head coaching material. Too fast and loose. You cannot motivate the team to stay focused and to kick the other team’s butt.
Hue mis-managed the clock and mis-managed the Mc Clain affair, he even mis-managed the “practice in pads” allotment, leaving the team no more chances to wear pads in practices for the rest of the year.
It would thrill me to see him step down after aplogizing for letting us all down. It starts and ends with the head man. So goes the coach, so goes the team. Ask the Chargers if we wre bullies today. What a croc of crap.
Goodbye Hue. Good luck in your next venture.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:55 pm
Hue says this is a joke.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:55 pm
I hate to admit it but as much as I hated Grudens dink n dunk offensive approach..it worked! Plus Gruden wouldnt have tolerated a pathetic defense for this long.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:55 pm
I’m crossing our fingers that we get at least two third-round compensatory picks. We need to use what few picks we have on defense.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:55 pm
HUE is not leaving the Raiders…
January 1st, 2012 at 5:55 pm
GG
Hue is just another coach
like our D is just another D, right? lol.
Pre-Hue Raiders: 29-83
Hue era: 16-16
January 1st, 2012 at 5:56 pm
163. Chuck called a D that was toasted for 38 points and was passed on at will. ZERO PUNTS!!!!
ZERO PUNTS!!!!
Raider Nation Station pointed out Oaklands secondary cannot play Zone and to see the Raiders 4 man rush get zero pressure ALL day?
Just appauling. When Bres did call blitzes they fizzled and were picked up easliy.
Oakland, you f’ing blew it and we desreve sooo much better.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:56 pm
I know GoodOle
but these racists will point out that we gained our first downs by rushing, as something bad, instead of focusing on the real problem.
Glad there are a handful of decent intelligent posters in here.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:56 pm
lol…sd better in standings
January 1st, 2012 at 5:57 pm
Hue has been riding the coattails of our playmakers the last two years.
Hue is absolutely nothing special, other than being the coach to have the most undisplined team in NFL history.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:57 pm
Hue, dont tell the media the loss is on you. Make those players take accountability and throw them under the bus. Quit lettin them off the hook when you take the blame.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:57 pm
We need to spend every avaible dollar on a brand new defense and DCO…
We better be very active in free agency…
January 1st, 2012 at 5:57 pm
I thought we should have challenged the spot of the ball on the safety play. Looked like the backs arm was down in the endzone befroe the ball came down.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:57 pm
hue is an offensive genius is he, alex lmfao.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:57 pm
The offense is pretty good and can be extremely good if they can keep everyone healthy. However, the HC is the coach of the entire team, not just the offense. Chuck B has a boss over him and his defense and none of them did their job. All should be held responsible. Still, I think we’ll probably see Hue back with another DC.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:57 pm
And get a fcking d cordinator RIGHT NOW so we can get to work, instead of waiting til season time.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:57 pm
Hue will get an extension. Turned a joke franchise around in one-year as O-coordinator. Led them to most meaningful season in 9 years his first season as HC.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:57 pm
I have inside information that our owners are hiring a GM as soon as possible, contrary to what Steve “We will blow the Chargers out-the Caers have quit” Corkrin says. Steve truly has his head up his butt.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:58 pm
Bresh should have cleaned out his office during the buffalo game
January 1st, 2012 at 5:58 pm
LTR Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 5:57 pm
I thought we should have challenged the spot of the ball on the safety play. Looked like the backs arm was down in the endzone befroe the ball came down.
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prolly got crap for ‘eyes in the sky’ too.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:58 pm
I’m crossing our fingers that we get at least two third-round compensatory picks. We need to use what few picks we have on defense.
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We will get only 1 compensatory picks, probably pick #97.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:58 pm
you have to try to look at it from john madden’s pov when evaluating hue.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:58 pm
alex7 Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 5:55 pm
again
Hue’s O is the ONLY REASON we stopped having our normal 5-11 seasons.
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Amen.
Breshnahan never should’ve been hired in the first place. Not that John Marshall is Buddy Ryan, but he looks like a mastermind compared to Chucky B and we would probably be in the playoffs right now with him.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:58 pm
I’m so upset! What a pity. The Raiders played as though they wanted to get home and play with their Christmas gifts. Very disappointing. The gameplan was awful. Looked like the Raiders did not prepare for this game. Same old stuff.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:59 pm
I bet we pick before the fifth
January 1st, 2012 at 5:59 pm
LTR Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 5:57 pm
I thought we should have challenged the spot of the ball on the safety play. Looked like the backs arm was down in the endzone befroe the ball came down.
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I thought it was coming out before he hit the ground…
No matter though…
January 1st, 2012 at 5:59 pm
meanwhile the trainers are still working on dmc and jones…gaither said yeah i can pass a physical and dominate your defensive line
January 1st, 2012 at 5:59 pm
Hue, dont tell the media the loss is on you. Make those players take accountability and throw them under the bus. Quit lettin them off the hook when you take the blame.
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Can we throw our d cord under a bus as well?
January 1st, 2012 at 5:59 pm
let’s see GG
RAIDERS WERE 31ST IN OFFENSE IN 2009
6TH IN OFFENSE IN 2010.
Yeah, Hue kinda kicked a$$
January 1st, 2012 at 5:59 pm
Hue will stay, he deserves another year. He’s dealt with a lot this year as a rookie HC. The rest can be torn apart.
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Hue can stay and who cares about the rest? seriously?
you deserve a bullet, my friend.
Hue was never qualified to be a Head Coach. who called it first? Even his friggin play calling was questionable!
Al Davis should have got all the credit for the offensive improvements last year, but he didn’t. Hue Jax was and still is all hype. all talk – no substance
fire him! he’s a POS
January 1st, 2012 at 5:59 pm
As soon as Mr. Davis crossed into the ether, ww should have fired bresh
January 1st, 2012 at 5:59 pm
You can’t have slow LBs checking wrs and te’s , letting the best cover lb ion the league go was a big mistake, now Thomas Howard is in the playoffs with cincy, we need to draft for defense, fast lbs and tall fast lbs with the few picks we do get.
January 1st, 2012 at 5:59 pm
By the way, this is a silly thing to pick a fight over.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:00 pm
Blow up the whole damned defense.
Get rid of Routt, McClain, Huff, Seymore, Sheppard…
Move away from the alumni assistant coaches. Get some damned professional football coaches in there.
Get a competent receivers coach. Why is DHB STILL using his body? Work on his hands, damnit…
Get rid of Schillens, Murphy and Houshmanzadeh… Leave ford as a returner.
How do you rebuild so much of the team with no draft pics?
So sick of this crap!!!
January 1st, 2012 at 6:00 pm
Did you see the Lions Schwartz’s post presser? That’s how you do it. Rip the f-in people who are responsible.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:00 pm
How many yards did we give up today?
Has to be ridiculous number. AND MORE than the yardage…was when it happened.
Had ‘em at the 99 1/2 yd. line with season on the line and those phhaggots just let ‘em march down the field.
Is Bres. fired yet?
If he’s still around I will not watch another game until he is.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:00 pm
Tom Cable was fired because 8-8 wasn’t good enough. Hue Jackson did not improve this team.
They played harder for Cable and did more with less under him.
Hue Jackson must be fired. Anyone on the coaching staff hired by Al Davis must be fired.
This team needs a clean break from the Al Davis era and needs a clean slate to start.
NEW GM AND NEW STAFF!
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co-signed !!!!
January 1st, 2012 at 6:00 pm
chuck b had no one to hold his hand when al passed he was free to do his thing
January 1st, 2012 at 6:01 pm
192. Yup.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:01 pm
Hue just blew up the defense in his presser. Romo also tore them up on CSN…
January 1st, 2012 at 6:01 pm
good point Chargerschoke.
Al messed up a lot as a GM, and in hiring Chuck because no one else wanted to put up with his meddling.
Hue will get us a legit D coordinator now.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:01 pm
TheMontyShow Tim Montemayor
#Hue Jackson must be evaluated by a new GM w/complete control of football operations …he has done an awful job the last 5 weeks #Raiders
January 1st, 2012 at 6:01 pm
Chuck B inherits all the blame? really ???
you’ve GOT to be joking …
did Chuck mismanage the clock?
did Chuck throw that last INT?
did Chuck allow that TD on special teams?
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Chuck did force one punt.. oh wait..
January 1st, 2012 at 6:01 pm
Best assistant coach of the year in the league: Bob Wylie the oline played big the whole season
January 1st, 2012 at 6:01 pm
Also under Gruden the Raiders had 2 straight 8-8 seasons before making the playoffs so maybe give Hue 1 more season…But Chuck and half the D has to go now!
January 1st, 2012 at 6:01 pm
Hue is ordinary. He is all mouth and does not deliver on his promises. Anyone can say we are going to build a bully. It takes a “JOHN WAYNE” to actually make it happen. Hue is not the man.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:02 pm
Firehue Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 6:00 pm
chuck b had no one to hold his hand when al passed he was free to do his thing
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Which was utter failure…Guy should be fired during the presser
January 1st, 2012 at 6:02 pm
Hue or whoever replaces him has to watch the film and waive every player that was joking and laughing on the sideline when they were down by 12 in the 4th.
No damned excuse. These guys did not come to play. Any of them….
January 1st, 2012 at 6:02 pm
No blame in here for Rod Woodson?
Isn’t he getting paid to coach SPECIFICALLY our Defensive backs?
Well, in my 31 years, our DB’s never looked worse!!
Fire Rod Woodson along with Chuck B.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:02 pm
The Raiders missed Mr. AL Davis gameplan today. We suck.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:02 pm
Well well well well well. this fcking team defense can go to hell. what in the fck is goin on with this fcked up defense? Just cant belive this bullschit. We fckng got progressively worse. The last two games were salvage attempts. That KC win was a fcking fluke that we won the coin toss. 1-4 to end the fcking season. what the fck is goin on. someone has some serious ‘head up your ass’ syndrome. Just makes me fcking sick.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:02 pm
Hue is not going anywhere I am positive of that. MIKE NOLAN is the man I am telling you he drives his players and is smart. Mark that name down!
January 1st, 2012 at 6:03 pm
we have a divide. put me firmly in the fire hue camp. and do not be surprised all you keep-hue people that the new gm will relieve hue of his job. not only because he blows, but also because of the contract situation that gives hue power that a gm will not want to come here unless he has full control.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:03 pm
stanford routt “we just gotta finish” uh yeah you are finished. season is over fool
January 1st, 2012 at 6:03 pm
Tom Cable was fired because 8-8 wasn’t good enough. Hue Jackson did not improve this team.
They played harder for Cable and did more with less under him.
Hue Jackson must be fired. Anyone on the coaching staff hired by Al Davis must be fired.
This team needs a clean break from the Al Davis era and needs a clean slate to start.
NEW GM AND NEW STAFF!
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co-signed !!!!
Co signned again
January 1st, 2012 at 6:03 pm
I deserve a bullet? Wow, what a piece of work you are. And who do you think they should bring in? Please tell us who would come here? Good luck with that.
Bills game – defense
Lions game – defense
Broncos game – defense
Chargers game- defense
Even games they won were almost blown by the defense.
Chill out Internet tough guy.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:03 pm
firehue Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 6:00 pm
chuck b had no one to hold his hand when al passed he was free to do his thing
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I can recall a quote by Chuck saying that people who thought he was free to run the D after AL’s death were wrong.
OKay…Then why all the Zone and Tampa 2-3? IS that Hue working you over?
No need to worry about Hue being mean to you anymore.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:04 pm
the def coordinator at the beginning of the season was Al, at the end it was chucky b…enough said
January 1st, 2012 at 6:05 pm
Hue is 50/50 right now to keep his job.
Any new GM is going to look at the penalties and his clock/game management AND AT WORST, make him re-interview for his job.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:05 pm
Do not be surprised to see our owners clean the house. Mark my words. Hue should be looking to be the new OC in Jacksonville.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:05 pm
With that outrageous loss. Norv. Turner probably saved his job.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:05 pm
How do you measure players and their ability to play when their scheme is that of a high school football team’s?
January 1st, 2012 at 6:06 pm
JFB
hard to evaluate Woodson when he has a bunch of previously-cut journeymen to work with (Gio, Lito, Boyd) and a terrible scheme.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:06 pm
That wasn’t a safety, as much as we might have hoped. Would’ve been a wasted challenge.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:06 pm
Norv is still fired if the Chargers have any sanity.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:07 pm
Na, Norv is gone.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:07 pm
San Diego finished above us actually. 4th tiebreaker: Better Conference percentage
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Better pick for Cin.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:07 pm
Seriously though, while were at it, somebody kick Steve for his assinie insistence that San Diego was done and was going to roll over.
He prattled on and on during that live chat thing the other day about how Oakland was going to win and win big.
His years of experience told him SD was gonna phone it in.
Incorrect.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:07 pm
come on JFB
why on earth would clock mis-management be ranked ahead of turning around an entire organization that was 29-83 before he arrived?
Be real.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:07 pm
Way to Choke Raiders, way to choke.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:07 pm
yeah the damm zone with slowlando covering deep middle
January 1st, 2012 at 6:07 pm
yeah GoodOle,
Philip Rivers is a fireball, no quit in him.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:08 pm
JFB
hard to evaluate Woodson when he has a bunch of previously-cut journeymen to work with (Gio, Lito, Boyd) and a terrible scheme.
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Chekwa was a STUD for a rookie before he got injured. And DVD even had good coverage when he did start. I wish we saw more bump and run though. Raider’s can’t play zone.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:08 pm
We have the brains nor personnel to effectively run a zone D…fck bresh and the whole defense…
January 1st, 2012 at 6:08 pm
Well, that’s enough for me tonight. I need to sit in the dark and do some deep breathing exercises or something. I’ll check in tomorrow when I’m not still vibrating.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:08 pm
Is anybody pissed more than me over this season?
What’s the diffeence between this and the last 9 years? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. Winning changes everything. The fans gave their all by showing up and the team pissed on them.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:08 pm
239. The ball was on the white line. Safety
January 1st, 2012 at 6:08 pm
JFB
hard to evaluate Woodson when he has a bunch of previously-cut journeymen to work with (Gio, Lito, Boyd) and a terrible scheme.
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Well, can’t you say the same for Chuck B than?
No matter what Rod had, they got worse as the season went along, and that should be grounds to be fired.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:08 pm
Oldtown Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 6:06 pm
Norv is still fired if the Chargers have any sanity.
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He at least deserves a consideration for spoiling our chances.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:08 pm
We have had nothing but retread d coordinators for years, we need a d coordinator who demands effort first and accountability I am truly ashamed at how the d was like Swiss cheese the last few weeks especially, when we lost to Miami that was it, season was done, how many turning point opportunities can this team blow?
January 1st, 2012 at 6:08 pm
Somebody should also thank KC for giving the disc gaither for a chiken sandwhich…
January 1st, 2012 at 6:09 pm
team imploded seymour saying “open guys all over the field”
January 1st, 2012 at 6:09 pm
if any part of a player or ball is outside the white line, it’s not a safety.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:09 pm
No way Hue should be fired.
The only thing that makes it remotely possible is if a new GM is dead-set on bringing in his own guy, but I don’t think that happens. I really don’t see the Raiders canning Hue. New GM will probably have that told to him upon hiring.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:09 pm
hue blowing up the D in his presser, he doesnt realize he’s sentencing himself there too because he is you know the HEAD COACH who runs every facet of the team, play-calling, game-plans, preparation, etc.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:10 pm
Bresnahan is one stupid stupid b**turd
January 1st, 2012 at 6:10 pm
Gotta Go
1 fcking pissed off NATION…
January 1st, 2012 at 6:10 pm
come on JFB
why on earth would clock mis-management be ranked ahead of turning around an entire organization that was 29-83 before he arrived?
Be real.
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Because a new GM isn’t going to be looking at what a team did in 2003 as reasons for a hiring in 2012.
If it were all about just being better than what we were before, Cable would still be here.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:10 pm
Who puts backers on their top receivers? Are you kidding me?
January 1st, 2012 at 6:10 pm
JFB
I disagree that we got worse. We were TERRIBLE week 3 in Buffalo, early vs Patriots, early vs Broncos.
Chuck had decent talent at the DE, DT, and LB position.
Certainly better than 28th-ranked. And he’s not a rookie like Woodson, with upside.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:10 pm
Chris in NY:
You are wrong. Dead wrong.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:11 pm
Alex7 Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 6:07 pm
yeah GoodOle,
Philip Rivers is a fireball, no quit in him.
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All the role players had to do was show up, Rivers and the Raiders D did the rest.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:11 pm
hue how many interviews still left?
January 1st, 2012 at 6:11 pm
GoodOle00 Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 6:08 pm
239. The ball was on the white line. Safety
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incorrect. in judging a safety or not, the ball ONLY has to have a part of it over the white line, think of a reverse TD.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:11 pm
lol @ GG
if you really think the Oakland Raiders head coach has ever been more than an O-coordinator.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:11 pm
258. Im confused. So if it crosses the line on O its a TD if it touches the gree on a safety its not 2 points?
January 1st, 2012 at 6:11 pm
What we should be doing on every play is call a 2 man under Defense. The D line getting closer to each other and the middle. The LBs shifting towards the RE. The Strong safety (Branch) inside the box. First play run and the use the elite speed to get back to that deep zone. CBs playing bump n run. Free Safety Covers middle until he reads pass in that case shifting to his deep zone assignment.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:11 pm
Bottom line, the doltz player showed up and play hard for themselves and their lame-duck coaches, the Raiders with everything at hand, either don’t show up when it counts or are just not good enough.
Making matters worst, HueSux has to be the worst head coach in the league, and even his offensive play calling was horrible, got eaten up throughout. Palmer has never been a QB that would put a team on his back and carry it, he’s over-hyped, over-paid, and it costs the Raiders a fortune. The Raiders probably couldn’t be better than 8-8 with Boller or another scrub, but they wouldn’t be strapped or have lost valuable and needed high picks. A major travesty, Palmer was brought in to win now, not make excuses.
The Raiders unfortunately are stuck with HueSux and Carsux for next year, a real shame. This Raiders team has enough talent to be better than 8-8, but this is what HueSux is, a mediocre head coach at best.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:12 pm
Cables teams finished the year strong the last two years.
He has to get some credit for turning the team around.
1-4?
January 1st, 2012 at 6:12 pm
Now we have to wait nearly a year to see the Raiders in regular season. So darn disappointing.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:12 pm
im talking THIS HC you numbskull
January 1st, 2012 at 6:12 pm
273. Ha ha ha!
January 1st, 2012 at 6:12 pm
And he’s not a rookie like Woodson, with upside.
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Why does he have “upside”?
Because he used to play?
LMAO
A coach is a coach man, and Rod was clearly in over his head this year.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:12 pm
Chris
Mark Davis knows Al entrusted the organization to Hue and will NOT allow a new GM to fire Hue.
In fact, there’s a much higher chance that Hue will get an extension soon.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:12 pm
Yeah right..Hue get’s fired in his rookie HC. job. 8-8
Fk it, Hue is a RAIDER whether you all like it or not.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:13 pm
JFB
a 1st-year coach is going to learn and improve more than a 12-year coach.
That’s not complicated.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:13 pm
Jared Gaither was the difference maker today. This is a self inflicted wound for Raiders since Gaither wanted to sign with us in off season but our team physician, Dr. King decided to not bless a deal with Gaither based on his opinion that his bad back was gonna land him in IR.
I guess he was WRONG and we all paid for it today.
Thanks Dr. king!!!!!!!!!
W no pressure on Gates thanks to Jared Gaither, the SOB ate our secondary for lunch. LIFO Shepard is a bum. Where the F was Huff?
Sickening to watch. Zero progress from 2009 season, zero. Plus leterly no draft prospects in 2012 either. Time to hit that Jack Daniels bottle hard……….. Thanks Hue for giving us this bull sheet.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:13 pm
Chris In NY Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 6:09 pm
No way Hue should be fired.
The only thing that makes it remotely possible is if a new GM is dead-set on bringing in his own guy, but I don’t think that happens. I really don’t see the Raiders canning Hue. New GM will probably have that told to him upon hiring.
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Does the new GM have enough time to hire a new HC this year?
January 1st, 2012 at 6:14 pm
Goldie7 Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 6:02 pm
The Raiders missed Mr. AL Davis gameplan today. We suck.
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You’re nuts. That’s Al’s defense reeking out there today. His players. His scheme.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:14 pm
You cant break records for penalties and play defense that poorly and earn a playoff spot.
That was a tough 1st year for a rookie HC. Hue Jack City has to get better a some things but overall, he is a good motivator who can put points on the board. He deserves an opportunity to “build a program,” but that bully $#*+ was only good for penalties.
I said 9 wins or bust but Im calling this season a stalemate. If not for the death Al the Don and the injury to JC, 8 wins would be a bust.
Division…Predicted wins…Record
AFC west…4+…3-3
AFC east…2…1-3
NFC nrth…2…2-2
cle/hou…1+…2-0
Reconstruct the D, get healthy, and have a good offseason.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:14 pm
Fire Chuck Bresnahan. Nuff said.
Fuk’n guy is horrible. This is not all on the players (save Sheppard), but the fuk’n scheme Chuck is running as well as the asinine calls that get exposed.
No team should go 100yds down the fuk’n field on a NFL defense. That sht should not happen! Period!
How many fukin’ times you need to see a damn RB or DE trying to cover a fukn WR? Same sht vs Detriot. Same sht vs SD. SD was doing the same mismatch sht Detriot was doing and Chuck B is fuk’n clueless.
Why the hell is DVD on the freakin’ bench???? He is a much better cover, better matchup than that little azz Lito Sheppard.
Fire Chuck B and lets kick this thing in gear.
OH AND HOW ABOUT MY BOY DHB??!!
January 1st, 2012 at 6:14 pm
JFB
a 1st-year coach is going to learn and improve more than a 12-year coach.
That’s not complicated.
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A lot of 1st year coaches don’t make it 12 seasons, BECAUSE THEY CAN’T COACH.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:15 pm
I think CP played pretty well, much better than Boller would have. I think he has 2-3 good years left in him. However, with the team going 1-4 down the stretch (not really his fault) it’s hard to say the trade was a good one. Although given our draft history there’s certainly no guarantee we would have come up with two good players.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:15 pm
Plunketthead Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 6:12 pm
Cables teams finished the year strong the last two years.
He has to get some credit for turning the team around.
1-4?
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Please Plunk….Don’t talk Cable up. Cable the “Wife Beater” belongs in jail. He deserves nothing. Cable deserves no credit. Happy New Year.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:15 pm
ohioraider the defense of the last weeks has been anti al and this is ithe result open your eyes
January 1st, 2012 at 6:15 pm
true ohioraider.
We’ll be better moving forward without the fingerprints of Mr. Davis on the defense and GM position.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:15 pm
Just finished listening to Hue’s presser. Have mixed feelings. Yes, it’s good to hear the truth–we can’t, don’t “finish games,” and so forth, but what I heard was nothing but criticism for the D, criticism which is MORE THAN justified, and what I heard was no vote of confidence in the DC: Hue said, “I’ve made these feelings known to Chuck,” and Hue said, “We got good enough players to win, it’s not the players [on D.]”
However, then he went on to contradict himself by blasting players by saying they don’t have the attitude that gets it done.
However, he made only an oblique reference to the offense in saying they had to settle for less than tds at times.
Are you kidding me? How many times did we cross the opponents 35 and settle for 3s? And now the truth is out if you listened to Gannon on tv. When the Raiders called a timeout at an inopportune moment, in essence wasting it, Gannon shared that Palmer told him it was hard to get quality time with Hue in meetings. That that had to change if they were to get on the same page.
So, what the hell was Hue doing if not meeting with his O?
January 1st, 2012 at 6:16 pm
26 points at home should have won this game. I agree Hue made some bonehead errors but I believ with an offseason, Dmac back with Palmer, our “O” is solid.
Huey’s not going anywhere.
Report jus in:
bresnahan found in the Marina swimming as 10 Raider fans are chasing him
new GM, DC, get rid of Seymour, , add a linebacker that can Cover.
Missing Nmandi? Yes, I never wanted him to leave..
The D was the only reason we lost. that Offense for 2 years now has scored enough to be a playoff team….
January 1st, 2012 at 6:16 pm
you can’t teach a new defense mid-season.
we’ll be much better on D next year.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:16 pm
234,Vegas,sorryman,Hue was terrible,Bres should just start walkin from Oakland,this fan base needs someone whos SMART W/XSand Os,PERIOD.Im tellin ya,Hue is a good PR guy,thats IT! All Year,2nd half sucked like the 1st half
January 1st, 2012 at 6:16 pm
UCLA Raiders Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 6:13 pm
Jared Gaither was the difference maker today. This is a self inflicted wound for Raiders since Gaither wanted to sign with us in off season but our team physician, Dr. King decided to not bless a deal with Gaither based on his opinion that his bad back was gonna land him in IR.
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Truth…Been saying this for a while..Dumb of KC to cut him for a false start..
January 1st, 2012 at 6:16 pm
SD was dinged up pretty bad at LB and we still got stuffed. F’ing Taiwan Jones. We had ZERO outside run game.
I’m going to question all off season what exactly is up with our guys sitting out 3/4 of the season with dinged hammies and ankles. Way too much time missed. Man the F up!
January 1st, 2012 at 6:16 pm
When the pressure’s on, our “D” folds.
Gotta change that. Let Hue pick the D’Coordinator that he wants. Give him another year.
A couple of the guys he wanted are now available as they were on the last year of their contracts last year.
God, I hope we get a few compensatory draft picks.
We were SOOOOO close with that safety on the kick off. The D just let’s them march down the field though.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:16 pm
Chris in NY Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 6:09 pm
No way Hue should be fired.
The only thing that makes it remotely possible is if a new GM is dead-set on bringing in his own guy, but I don’t think that happens. I really don’t see the Raiders canning Hue. New GM will probably have that told to him upon hiring.
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Oh, so you’re saying the new GM will be a figurehead with no authority over the coach? And that’s progress how exactly? No GM worth a damn is going to come here under those circumstances.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:16 pm
Hue’s pressers the last month have all been about saving his a**
January 1st, 2012 at 6:16 pm
Raiders for life Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 6:12 pm
Yeah right..Hue get’s fired in his rookie HC. job. 8-8
Fk it, Hue is a RAIDER whether you all like it or not
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Hue is NOT a Raider. Jim Otto is a Raider. Madden is a Raider. Flores is a Raider. Winners make true Raiders. Losers are broncos, chiefs and chiefs.
You should GET a life.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:17 pm
Damn pissed off missed playoffs again. During half time Hue should have slapped that idiot Chuck B up side the head and told him to get the defense act together. I said, all along we should have kept sterling Moore on our roster an undrafted CB, but no Raiders had to let him slip away to practice squad and New England took him and he had an interception and touchdown run today. Need to replace almost all of the coaches on the Raiders but Chuck B needs to be let go tonight. Most of the defense needs to be let go not worth paying a melted ice cream cone for them. Since we have no draft picks need to look at undrafted free agents very closely, alot of good players came from undrafted bunch. God, I hate Chuck B, he looked a deer caught in the headlights today, he could not beat a pop warner pee wee football team.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:18 pm
good post Raiderz.
Hue’s O is the reason we’re no longer 5-11 every year.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:18 pm
Hue is good at “O”. He turned the offense around last year from near bottom of the pack to top 5-6. The offense is still performing above average.
I think the “clean house” has gotta be on our defense. And drop our WR coach. This man hasn’t had a 1000 receiver since he’s gotten here. He’s a joke.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:18 pm
Why does everyone assume D-Mac will be back next year?
He will be lucky to squeeze the 132 touches we got out of him this year, next year.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:18 pm
maverick
what WR would you expect to get 1,000 yards for us? We’ve had no talent there until this year.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:18 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 6:10 pm
come on JFB
why on earth would clock mis-management be ranked ahead of turning around an entire organization that was 29-83 before he arrived?
Be real.
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Because a new GM isn’t going to be looking at what a team did in 2003 as reasons for a hiring in 2012.
If it were all about just being better than what we were before, Cable would still be here.
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Cable was part of that 5-11 crowd with a sloppy, garbage offense that averaged about 11 ppg until Hue got here last year and took us to about a 25 ppg offense.
The only drop-off in coaching this year was John Marshall to Bresh.
I’m sure Bresh is a nice guy and I don’t wish him any ill. But when you rank at the very bottom of the league on defense with some talented players you just didn’t get the job done and need to go. It’s largely on the players, so they probably need someone who will come in and make their life hell if they don’t do their job, not a nice guy. And someone who will kick their azz to the curb if they don’t like it.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:18 pm
Oh, one more thing….we DON’T have the players on D to play well. Guys like Giordano and the like are good back-ups, good special teams guys, but not starters, and for God sakes, our linebackers suck big time.
That’s Al’s fault–hopefully now we won’t stick with guys just because Al chose them.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:19 pm
292,gettin his friggin nails done
January 1st, 2012 at 6:19 pm
Jackson gambled big time on Palmer and lost. He should pay for that mistake. Bring in a GM with big balls to shake up the organization. That’s the only only hope.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:20 pm
DMac is under contract for two more years, that’s why he’ll be back.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:20 pm
I think we’ll get a GM. And, I don’t think he’ll definitely can Hue. 1st season at 8-8 on any team and they get a 2nd chance. One game out of the playoffs.
True, it wasn’t progress from last season, but really we have a descent coaching staff. D-Line Coach, O-Line Coach, O-Coordinator really really good coaches.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:20 pm
ford just got informed hue said that this team needed an attitude adjustment…his eyes opened wide
January 1st, 2012 at 6:20 pm
The problem has been the D all year. Even if they had given us the safety (which it wasn’t) it wouldn’t have mattered. They couldn’t even stop them from marching 99.5 yards. They had no chance of stopping them whatsoever. Time to shake up the D. Hue at least deserves another year.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:20 pm
lol Ohioraider
when your choice is Palmer or Boller, how can the one who had the best QB play since Gannon be a bad bet?
January 1st, 2012 at 6:21 pm
Oh, so you’re saying the new GM will be a figurehead with no authority over the coach? And that’s progress how exactly? No GM worth a damn is going to come here under those circumstances.
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Thank-you!!!
Any real GM candidate that is worth his salts, will make every single coaching staff position interview.
It’s called creating a staff. Sometimes you keep some, like the HC, but regardless, if their is a GM hire from outside the organization, Hue will be interviewing to keep his job.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:21 pm
God, imagine what we’d have looked like if we didn’t bring in Palmer though. We’d still have Boller starting and wouldn’t even be upset because we lost the opportunity at a shot at the playoffs. That shot woudln’t even have been there.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:21 pm
Sterlin Moore had two INT for Patriots one for TD. We let this guy go in favor of Lito Shepard!
Think about this. We let an up and comer for a has been. Hue is responsible .
We let Jared Gaither to leave thanks to our physician.
These are two play makers we let walk away. And we all know this team has very few playmakers. I can’t name one playmaker on defense.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:21 pm
Sending my ladies to get a 6 pack of Jumbacos from T Box.
Lake Show moonwalking straight down south Denver drive, gotta keep it real with some south of the border fusion cuisine
TIGHTY WHITIES IN THE HOUSE, Y’ALL
January 1st, 2012 at 6:21 pm
dmac will hurt his heel as soon as he starts stretching
January 1st, 2012 at 6:21 pm
I’m sick of seeing Hue’s befuddled face on the sidelines. Time to fire his sorry ass now. Team regressed in every respect this year.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:22 pm
So, what the hell was Hue doing if not meeting with his O?
Polishing his huge johnson?
January 1st, 2012 at 6:22 pm
Maverick
last year we played the weak NFC west.
This year we played the NFC north and the Patriots and Jets.
You don’t think the same record shows progress?
January 1st, 2012 at 6:22 pm
alex7 Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 6:18 pm
good post Raiderz.
Hue’s O is the reason we’re no longer 5-11 every year.
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All that does is make Jackson a good offensive coordinator. Doesn’t say a thing about his head coaching qualifications. Based on this year he failed in that capacity. You can say he’s still a good OC but not equipped to make that step up to HC.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:22 pm
DMac is under contract for two more years, that’s why he’ll be back.
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And more often than not, he will be laughing on the sidelines in sweat pants.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:22 pm
Man, people all ove rthe map. Hues to blame! Bresnahans to blame! Al’s to blame, Carsons to blame!
What a joke.
The DC sucks azz period. What play off caliber defense gets shelled like that over and over and over?
Exactly…
January 1st, 2012 at 6:22 pm
I got hooked on the Raiders during the 1968 AFL Championsip game. I was in the USAF in Turkey and needed something to tie me to home. That game cemented me to the Raiders, and I’ve stuck hard ever since. I’ve been disappointed over the years with certain losses, but I have to say that I’ve seldom, if ever, been more disappointed that I was with today’s game. There’s something very disfunctional about this group — lots of very good players and lots of “crazy makers” who toss monkey wrenches into the works. Leadership has been lacking, both on and off the field, and I hope the offseason brings some strong leadership.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:23 pm
yeah spartacus,
they regressed in injuries and D, from 11th to 29th.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:23 pm
Hue has to go because we are building a team on his crappy mistakes. Too many to just let slide. This is the NFL man. Win and win now. If I had cancer, I would NEVER see this team go to the playoffs with the mindset that 8-8 is worth building on. Bullcrap.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:23 pm
Hue Jax has done a remarkable job given the massive scope of what he had to over come.
Think about it Marys.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:24 pm
It’s good we have Palmer. He’ll keep in shape, learn the playbook, have an off season and will be better next year. We actually have a QB that is top 15 (which we haven’t had since Gannon).
Remember what Farve looked like when he had “retired” and then they talked him back to Minnisota that last year without him really keeping in shape or being in the preseason. It was black and white compared to the year before. Palmer walked in from being “retired” to starting the next week. It’s not him that this blame lays on. I don’t remember our “D” holding an opponent to under 21 all year…
January 1st, 2012 at 6:24 pm
304,OK,Hue stays as OC,get a real HC and GM,period.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:24 pm
thank you for being rational GoodOle.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:24 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 6:21 pm
Oh, so you’re saying the new GM will be a figurehead with no authority over the coach? And that’s progress how exactly? No GM worth a damn is going to come here under those circumstances.
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Thank-you!!!
Any real GM candidate that is worth his salts, will make every single coaching staff position interview.
It’s called creating a staff. Sometimes you keep some, like the HC, but regardless, if their is a GM hire from outside the organization, Hue will be interviewing to keep his job.
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Exactly. The absolute worst thing that could happen would be for Jackson to get an automatic extension without answering for this year. He made a big gamble on Palmer and LOST. That was the risk he took. If there are no consequences for it than the organization remains mired in the status quo.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:25 pm
Palmer throws a nice interception.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:25 pm
All I can say is that I am excited for the massive overhaul and change that is going to take place over the next couple of months. We have the offense to play with anyone.
I sure hope we steal Regie or Wolf Jr.
It’s been a wild year. Took years off my ticker.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:25 pm
For those of you blaming Palmer his 417 yds today is 3rd best in Raider history.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:26 pm
Gannon shared that Palmer told him it was hard to get quality time with Hue in meetings. That that had to change if they were to get on the same page.
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If anyone saw the clip of Peyton and Brees in a meeting together. Two brilliant men working to out plan the opponent. This is what it takes to gain an edge in the NFL.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:26 pm
336. exactly
January 1st, 2012 at 6:26 pm
325,trade his ouch arse outta here
January 1st, 2012 at 6:26 pm
Hue Jackson’s team just went 3-5 at home and blew away the NFL record in penalties.
He has every right to be held accountable and fired.
Not saying he absolutely should be, but it is on the table.
He isn’t God’s gifts to offenses. If he is gone, any other decent OC will get the same results.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:26 pm
No other team had as good a record as Oakland while losing their starting QB, starting RB, two of 3 starting WRs, and play-making starting FB.
Heck, only the Chiefs even came close in terms of injuries, and they also took a fall this season.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:26 pm
id run hue out and trade palmer for a 2nd to the seahawks.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:26 pm
Palmer sure knows how to throw-to the other team.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:26 pm
Ah, yes, injuries. There will be no injuries next year. And Tommy Kelly and Seyomour are going to get younger and better. And we have all kinds of draft picks next year year to rebuild. And every free agent will come to Oakland next year.
I hear the same shi’ite every f’ng year.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:27 pm
Oldtown Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 6:25 pm
Ford causes a nice interception.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:27 pm
silverback Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 6:26 pm
Gannon shared that Palmer told him it was hard to get quality time with Hue in meetings. That that had to change if they were to get on the same page.
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If anyone saw the clip of Peyton and Brees in a meeting together. Two brilliant men working to out plan the opponent. This is what it takes to gain an edge in the NFL.
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Don’t worry. After Hue is fired and a Veteran Coaching Staff is brought in Palmer will get the time he deserves.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:27 pm
Here whats needs to be done. On defense, replace the whole secondary with the exception of Huff, Branch, Routt and Giordano, sign Cortland Finnegan. We need legit pass rushers, trade of Jared Allen or sign the best free agent who gets cut, most probably Mario Williams or Umenyiora. Replace Curry and Wimbley, Wimbley is overrated. Curry can’t pass protect.
On offense, replace Michael Bush with maybe Reggie Bush or Matt Forte. Cut Louis Murphy, Schillens, Houshdoesnt matter, and sign a true go to guy like Reggie Wayne or Vincent Jackson. A whole new defensive coaching staff should be implemented and I hope we either change to 3-4 or implement a more Tampa 2 defense like the Bears.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:27 pm
Ohio,
this is the best QB play we’ve had since Gannon.
Why are you so against it, with Boller and Pryor being the alternatives?
January 1st, 2012 at 6:27 pm
I think De La Salle scores 30+ on the Raiders D
January 1st, 2012 at 6:28 pm
cue Alex neck veins bursting in 3….2….1
January 1st, 2012 at 6:28 pm
alex7 Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 6:23 pm
yeah spartacus,
they regressed in injuries and D, from 11th to 29th.
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Yeah, I said all along that it was a mistake getting rid of our “D coordinator” last year. And, it was an even bigger mistake doing it and hiring Bresnehan. I think that wasn’t the original plan, but we got stuck with it when we could’ve kept Marshall.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:28 pm
A veteran QB should know when to throw it away or God forbid take the sack. CP3 can do niether. His decisions have really hurt us.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:28 pm
ohioraider Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 6:16 pm
Chris in NY Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 6:09 pm
No way Hue should be fired.
The only thing that makes it remotely possible is if a new GM is dead-set on bringing in his own guy, but I don’t think that happens. I really don’t see the Raiders canning Hue. New GM will probably have that told to him upon hiring.
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Oh, so you’re saying the new GM will be a figurehead with no authority over the coach? And that’s progress how exactly? No GM worth a damn is going to come here under those circumstances.
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Not saying that at all. Just saying the Raiders likely will (and in my opinion should) feel Hue deserves at least another year or two as head coach. He’s completely turned around the offense since he got here and deserves more than one .500 season as head coach before he gets canned.
Coaches who go 3-13 typically get more than one season to turns things around. Jimmy Johnson went 1-15 his first year before building a dynasty. Hue went 8-8 despite losing his starting QB in Jason Campbell, his best player in Darren McFadden and having to step in as GM a third of the way into the season after losing his mentor and the organization’s king in Al Davis. All the while his offense churned up yards and was productive, including today when they went for over 500 yards.
Give the guy a break.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:28 pm
alex7 Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 6:26 pm
No other team had as good a record as Oakland while losing their starting QB, starting RB, two of 3 starting WRs, and play-making starting FB.
Heck, only the Chiefs even came close in terms of injuries, and they also took a fall this season.
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Exactly. I know Jerry referenced Green Bay having 16 guys on IR and winning the SB but one of those injured wasn’t Aaron Rogers, Greg Jennings ect.
Oaklands injuries (especially in the secondary) finally came back to haunt them along with a sh**ty DC
January 1st, 2012 at 6:29 pm
No other team had as good a record as Oakland while losing their starting QB, starting RB, two of 3 starting WRs, and play-making starting FB.
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Houston comes pretty close.
And while we lost our “starting” QB, we clearly upgraded at that position.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:29 pm
Oldtown Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 6:26 pm
Palmer sure knows how to throw-to the other team.
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I think that was on Ford. Could be wrong, but I don’t think he did what he was supposed to and then gave up on it.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:30 pm
How do ya feel McFragile? Taiwan? Happy I blame the D for the most part but The Vajayjay Brigade deserves some blame too. So Bresnahan is gone, no question there. Hopefully most kf the players on D will be shown the door as well. Disgusted! Just pathetic. Why do I waste my energy and time on this loser squad?
January 1st, 2012 at 6:30 pm
Morilla:
Touche. But I am talking about on a whole. CP3 was an interception machine.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:30 pm
Why all the hate on Palmer? He makes some risky decisions, but our inability to stop the SD all day was the real issue.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:31 pm
Difference between us and Houston is they have a real defense.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:31 pm
“Obviously…”
January 1st, 2012 at 6:31 pm
The pick to Ford was a good pass, and Ford slipped and never located the ball.
Besides, the scoreboard read 38-26, 4:47 at the time.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:31 pm
Al forced Hue on Cable cause Cables’ duties as HC and playcaller were to much. And rightly so. Same old schit with Hue. Your the HC. Got a OC playcaller to help out, that can spend time with the O while you take care of duties as HC. Aint complicated.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:31 pm
How is it that a lame duck coach can inspire his whole team when there is nothing to play for and our bikini-waxed gnome turns in another dreadfully unprepared performance?
January 1st, 2012 at 6:32 pm
Hue said in his press conference that there is a good chance that McFadden will be in against the Steelers next week.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:32 pm
Jackson is ultimately responsible for the defense as well. That’s what he got with his raise. Two 99 yard drives sent the season up in smoke. I would have had Bresnahan by the lapels for that. I would made it effin clear that that kind of thing is unacceptable. The buck stops with Jackson.
And, note, I didn’t say fire him. I said he needs to answer for this bs and reinterview for his job. I say a new GM needs to have the authority to make the call one way or another.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:32 pm
I think Palmer and Hue are smart enough to come back next season and kick some fcking ass. They’ll take this loss to the heart and come back hungry. Most the D wont, but the offense will.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:33 pm
This proves that tebow is the second coming of jesus. I’m done with football.Go Lakers! See you guys next season
January 1st, 2012 at 6:33 pm
That D was some bull$#*+. When that kickoff didn’t result in a safety, everyone knew a 99 yd drive was about to happen.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:33 pm
Time to clean the raider team again. Who is first! Palmer pack your bags quick, fast and big A in a hurry. Bringing him was a disaster from the start. Second, the DC and parts of the defense(ahh..Seymour, Routt, McClain,etc…)have got to go, period. Too many flippin penalties for no reason at all. Receivers such DHB his time has pass him by. Need a solid RB period. Stand up and ask for more when poiunding the defense period. HueJax, ask the fans because we pay your salary, when don’t go to the playoff for the last ten years, your neck is next! One disappointing season for a sorry Raider team again! Get rid of players who don’t understand the meaning of playing balls to the wall, all out fewer penalties to gain Ws and not disappointing loss. This team may wear the name, but far remove from the legends of the Raiders. Get rid of Palmer and others who can’t play the game! Or the team will get rid of you!!!!!!
January 1st, 2012 at 6:33 pm
yeah Chris and GoodOle,
and Mark is smart enough to understand that Hue turned the franchise around, and was entrusted by Al to be the long-term coach here.
It will happen.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:33 pm
I am Spartacus Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 6:31 pm
How is it that a lame duck coach can inspire his whole team when there is nothing to play for and our bikini-waxed gnome turns in another dreadfully unprepared performance?
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Ouch!
January 1st, 2012 at 6:33 pm
lol Ohio
“Hue is responsible for the D”..
Hue had ZERO to do with the drafting of D players, signing of D free agents, development of D philosophy, coaching of said D, hiring of D coaches.
NOTHING.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:34 pm
357. Completely on Ford. All that down time showed omn that play.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:34 pm
Hue deserves what Cable got.
Hire some outside guy on his staff, to be his replacement in waiting if he doesn’t get it done.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:34 pm
Where do we get the presser?
Sure as heck get nothing from this site.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:34 pm
I am Spartacus Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 6:31 pm
How is it that a lame duck coach can inspire his whole team when there is nothing to play for and our bikini-waxed gnome turns in another dreadfully unprepared performance?
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You know what, that would be a perfectly acceptable question for the new GM to ask him sometime in the spring when he reinterviews for his job. Well, except maybe for the waxing part…
January 1st, 2012 at 6:35 pm
If we get the defense fixed, the offense has enough to go deep into the playoffs next year. Much of it is scheme and planning. Our D was too predictable. If our D-line did not get pressure on the QB, we had very little chance of winning this year.
What did you really think we were getting when Chucky B came back and Hue couldn’t really get the man he wanted? They fell back to Bresh by default.
Do we transition tag Bush (or can we?). Has his carries really made a big difference over the past six weeks? No one will bite for compensation on the Franchise tag, but might with a transition tag of a second round pick…
January 1st, 2012 at 6:35 pm
Most penalties and penalty yardage in the history of the NFL=stupid players and coaches who don’t hold the stupid players responsible for their stupidity.
It’s simple-get rid of the stupid players and the coaches that let it happen. Get a DC or HC who will actually kick some tail when needed.
We don’t need a “players coach”. We need an a$$ kicker.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:36 pm
After Al died, we brought in Curry and signed Lito.
That is 20% of our defensive starters, THAT ARE COMPLETELY 100% Hue’s call.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:36 pm
Don’t get me wrong. I think we can do a lot better than Bresnahan, but he only had to work with what he had to work with.
Everyone used to say, “Fire Ryan” too, but you can see that with Dallas’ defense, there’s only so much a DC can do, just as here.
Losing Shaunessey really hurt and the other guy, the one that starts with a G,” but let’s face it, McClain will never be the answer in the middle and that’s on Al and the draft crew.
We are old on the D line and we are untalented in the secondary so I am just telling you this–don’t look for a new DC to make lemonade out of this crew of lemons.
I recall reading that Al Davis always went around telling everyone how talented his players were so that people would think him shrewd in drafting them; he said it so much, the press believed him.
I recall losing AFL and later AFC championships year after year to the Lenny Dawson, Buck Buchanan Chiefs and to the Bradshaw and Steel Curtain Steelers, even though all year the national and the local press kept calling Al Davis’ Oakland Raiders the “most talented team in the AFl(or the NFL)” yet we more often than not lost the playoff game, in spite of year after year of great w-l numbers.
One year, my beloved Bill King came right out and said it:”Hasn’t it EVER occurred to anyone, especially the ‘experts,’ that maybe the Raiders are only the 2ND best team in the league, not the best…that maybe they DON’T have THE BEST PLAYERS?’
I recall saying, “Yes! King gets it. It’s the mantra of Davis, the ‘We’ve got the most talented playas in the NFL’” that led everyone to speak of the Raiders’ talent.
We’re STILL hearing it, now from Hue. Know why? So he can insidiously and inexplicitly blame his defensive counterpart, Bresnahan, for the team’s won-loss record.
Did you guys see the Brady interview with Chris Berman, who asked him about his feelings toward the not-very-good D that the Patriots put on the field this year?
Brady wasn’t blowing smoke up Berman’s rear when he said, “You gotta remember that years ago, it was the D that held up this team, when the offense and I weren’t too good, yet we made it work. They knew our O couldn’t do certain things, so they knew they had to hold the other team to so many points. Now, it’s reversed, and I know that when we go out there, it’s on me and the O to outscore the other team.”
Funny, I never got the impression that Hue and the others really understand the concept of TEAM.
I am hoping Hue is better next year as a head coach (I still have high hopes for him but he has to learn to delegate to those who can carry out orders) and I am hoping that free agents see enough of a future for this team to WANT to come here. If they don’t see this as a good destination, we’re screwed.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:36 pm
alex7 Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 6:33 pm
lol Ohio
“Hue is responsible for the D”..
Hue had ZERO to do with the drafting of D players, signing of D free agents, development of D philosophy, coaching of said D, hiring of D coaches.
NOTHING.
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He’s the effin head coach, Alex! He’s the CEO, the Big Cheese, the Head Honcho. Don’t you grasp this concept. Is the President of the United States ultimately not responsible for the quality of the military if it can’t do it’s job?
January 1st, 2012 at 6:36 pm
Oldtown Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 6:30 pm
Morilla:
Touche. But I am talking about on a whole. CP3 was an interception machine.
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I hear ya, I am going to chalk this year up to his situation. But he needs to stop that stuff next year for sure.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:36 pm
TERRIBLE D decisions by Mr. Davis last few years:
Not bringing in Monte Kiffin.
Not allowing Rob Ryan to develop the 3-4.
Bringing a 3-4 D coach if 3-4 wasn’t long-term plan.
Letting Marshall go despite best Oakland D in a decade.
Hiring Chuck B.
Not adapting to 21st century Defense.
All that will finally be overcome.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:36 pm
Repeating…..Mike Nolan new d-coordinator, I’d fly him to Oakland asap, trust me this guy will do wonders evaluate and then decide who to replace, we have some good piece on d starting with branch shonasty will be back, might be time to say bye bye to Seymour to start
January 1st, 2012 at 6:37 pm
WhatsGoinOn Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 6:32 pm
I think Palmer and Hue are smart enough to come back next season and kick some fcking ass. They’ll take this loss to the heart and come back hungry. Most the D wont, but the offense will.
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Sorry- Sounds nice and all, But all this “NEXT YEAR” crap is not good enough. We have been saying that for the last 9 years- we now have the second longest drought/ streak for the playoffs in the NFL and not to mention the new record for penalties. That one is on Hue Jackson too.
Stabler said it: “Penalties are noo big deal as long as you win.”
January 1st, 2012 at 6:38 pm
oldtown
I think Stabler said:
“Penalties are no big deal as long as your defense isn’t ranked 29th and gives up game-winning 98 and 99 yard TD drives with the playoffs on the line.”
January 1st, 2012 at 6:38 pm
Before we completely commit to running Chuchy B under the bus remember he was hired as the LB coach and promoted to DC when no one would take the job under Al Davis and Dennis Thurman was denied an interview, this loss and the season failure is in the D, Lito Sheppard has been laying off and giving up completions since he was inserted into the lineup, we were better off with DVD, honestly . No pass rush in the last few games but no big QB runs either. We need a D-end who has multiple moves not just an outside rush, a guy who can start outside and then come underneath without totally giving up the edge. I almost wish Denver had of won cause to not force a punt is effin ridiculous. I saw some good hard hitting by us so I think the effort was there.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:38 pm
ust Fire Baby Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 6:36 pm
After Al died, we brought in Curry and signed Lito.
That is 20% of our defensive starters, THAT ARE COMPLETELY 100% Hue’s call.
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Those days are over, right?
January 1st, 2012 at 6:38 pm
Nice, Luvmarvhub. Right on buddy.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:39 pm
370.Raider J Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 6:33 pm
That D was some bull$#*+. When that kickoff didn’t result in a safety, everyone knew a 99 yd drive was about to happen.
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Abso-freaking-lutely.
And how freaking pathetic is that? We shouldn’t even have to worry that our D won’t stop a team in that position; but we do. EVERY FREAKING TIME.
I give the D NO CREDIT WHATSOEVER.
THEY SUCK!!! Period and end of story.
Bunch of choke azz losers.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:39 pm
Alex7:
January 1st, 2012 at 6:39 pm
Btw 382 you make some good points but I disagree about d-line it is not old, I am talking about Houston, Bryant, shaugnessy , Henderson is done, Kelly, about out the the door rolling seymour
January 1st, 2012 at 6:39 pm
True story. Mcclain’s baby mama is from Vegas, who I know, says rolando hates Oakland and playing for the raiders. It shows in his play and his apathetic attitude. He needs to get moved. He is an absolute cancer.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:39 pm
Hue is not the problem that’s his offense out ther kickin ass he needs help with the defense weather that’s a new dc or players or both I dint like how after the first series we didn’t run it again until late second quarter
In typical raider fan fashion I’ll go out saying this we’ll be better next year at least on offense
Peace out nation
January 1st, 2012 at 6:39 pm
lol Ohio
you think the Oakland Raiders head coach with Mr. Al Davis was ever more than the O-coordinator?
Really?
January 1st, 2012 at 6:39 pm
Bush clearly faded down the stretch.
Clear as day he is a great #2 RB, and an average at best #1.
So, please new GM, pay him as such or let him go.
Don’t panic and franchise him like we did Wimbley, and watch our “franchise” OLB get manhandled on a block by PHilip Rivers with the season on the line.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:40 pm
more cover 2 zone? yeah thats exactly what this team needs…lol
January 1st, 2012 at 6:40 pm
I hear ya, I am going to chalk this year up to his situation. But he needs to stop that stuff next year for sure.
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Palmer was a little more careful with the ball today. He also threw well on the move.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:40 pm
yeah JFB
Bush fading might help us retain him next season as the backup/starter when DMac gets hurt again.
Can’t imagine a team paying a guy with a metal rod who fades with heavy work-loads #1 money.
RB is an EASY position to upgrade at cheaply.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:41 pm
Luvmarvhub Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 6:36 pm
Don’t get me wrong. I think we can do a lot better than Bresnahan, but he only had to work with what he had to work with.
Everyone used to say, “Fire Ryan” too, but you can see that with Dallas’ defense, there’s only so much a DC can do, just as here.
Losing Shaunessey really hurt and the other guy, the one that starts with a G,” but let’s face it, McClain will never be the answer in the middle and that’s on Al and the draft crew.
We are old on the D line and we are untalented in the secondary so I am just telling you this–don’t look for a new DC to make lemonade out of this crew of lemons.
I recall reading that Al Davis always went around telling everyone how talented his players were so that people would think him shrewd in drafting them; he said it so much, the press believed him.
I recall losing AFL and later AFC championships year after year to the Lenny Dawson, Buck Buchanan Chiefs and to the Bradshaw and Steel Curtain Steelers, even though all year the national and the local press kept calling Al Davis’ Oakland Raiders the “most talented team in the AFl(or the NFL)” yet we more often than not lost the playoff game, in spite of year after year of great w-l numbers.
One year, my beloved Bill King came right out and said it:”Hasn’t it EVER occurred to anyone, especially the ‘experts,’ that maybe the Raiders are only the 2ND best team in the league, not the best…that maybe they DON’T have THE BEST PLAYERS?’
I recall saying, “Yes! King gets it. It’s the mantra of Davis, the ‘We’ve got the most talented playas in the NFL’” that led everyone to speak of the Raiders’ talent.
We’re STILL hearing it, now from Hue. Know why? So he can insidiously and inexplicitly blame his defensive counterpart, Bresnahan, for the team’s won-loss record.
Did you guys see the Brady interview with Chris Berman, who asked him about his feelings toward the not-very-good D that the Patriots put on the field this year?
Brady wasn’t blowing smoke up Berman’s rear when he said, “You gotta remember that years ago, it was the D that held up this team, when the offense and I weren’t too good, yet we made it work. They knew our O couldn’t do certain things, so they knew they had to hold the other team to so many points. Now, it’s reversed, and I know that when we go out there, it’s on me and the O to outscore the other team.”
Funny, I never got the impression that Hue and the others really understand the concept of TEAM.
I am hoping Hue is better next year as a head coach (I still have high hopes for him but he has to learn to delegate to those who can carry out orders) and I am hoping that free agents see enough of a future for this team to WANT to come here. If they don’t see this as a good destination, we’re screwed.
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A team can’t do anything when the other team is consistently scoring more points than you.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:41 pm
Undefense…!
January 1st, 2012 at 6:41 pm
http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2012010114/2011/REG17/chargers@raiders#menu=highlights&tab=recap
djohnnyg Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 6:34 pm
Where do we get the presser?
Sure as heck get nothing from this site.
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presser aint on there, yet.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:41 pm
Rolando didn’t miss a tackle today, and looked more inspired than 90% of our players.
If he hates playing in Oakland, the rest of the team must hate it more.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:42 pm
280,didnt Cable get fired after 8 and 8?
January 1st, 2012 at 6:42 pm
elraidmanhattan Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 6:36 pm
Repeating…..Mike Nolan new d-coordinator,
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Repeat it all you want- I say Nolan is associated with losing and he can’t even come to Oaklnad to go shopping. He should stay away to his side of the bay.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:42 pm
Tommy Kelly said after the KC game that it was unfair to call the D “choke artists”.
“We ain’t no choke artists”.
NEWSFLASH:
YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY some of the biggest choke artists in history of pro sports.
NFLN should do a show on “Top 10 choke artist defenses in NFL history”.
Number 1 on the list? The 2011 Oakland Raiders!
January 1st, 2012 at 6:42 pm
Some of you idiots blaming Hue??? Com’on!!! Anybody should be able to see this defense is a mess. And its not all on the players.
Two things cost us this year: DEFENSE & INJURIES
We have some very good players on that side of the ball. Whenever you see a blitz call from the right and they run left THATS ON THE DC!!! When you see freakin’ LBs & DEs trying to cover a freakin #1WR THATS ON THE DC!!!!!
Blame the fat azz Rex Ryan for torpedoing our season sticking us with Bresh when we really wanted on of his underlyings.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:42 pm
hue wouldnt even look at chuck on the sideline..figured if he looked his way he take a swing at the guy
January 1st, 2012 at 6:42 pm
alex7 Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 6:39 pm
lol Ohio
you think the Oakland Raiders head coach with Mr. Al Davis was ever more than the O-coordinator?
Really?
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Let me ask you: Don’t you think that’s got to finally change?
January 1st, 2012 at 6:43 pm
I can’t believe the D couldn’t force one punt out of SD. Specially on that drive they started at the half yard line. Horrible, just horrible play on D. Chuck B and some players need to be gone tonight. Don’t wait until tomorrow, or next week, start the firing process tonight. IF you can get something for some of the players on D under contract, then get some, but changes HAVE to be made on that side of the ball.
I am seriously pi$$ed off at this team right now. I’m not going to say “I’ll never be a fan again” or any of that bs some people say when we experience a loss like this, because I know it is not true, but there better be some heads rolling beginning tonight. And Hue, you are not off that list either. You might not be the first on it, but you certainly aint the last either.
Phuck this piece of $hit performance by the D, and whoever made the gameplan.
Oh, and by the way, way to be motivated and show passion in a game where you had the chance to make a memorable season special, you miserable excuse for a football coach and your obvious lack of common defensive sense. Chuck B and some players, you know who you are.
Al must be firing up a projector right about now from above, or below.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:43 pm
alex is sullivan
January 1st, 2012 at 6:43 pm
Does anyone know if we play the Steelers or the Patriots next week?
January 1st, 2012 at 6:43 pm
I still hate the Steelers so I will rootforTebow next week but after that they need to get their butts handed to them again
January 1st, 2012 at 6:44 pm
89052RAIDER Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 6:39 pm
True story. Mcclain’s baby mama is from Vegas, who I know, says rolando hates Oakland and playing for the raiders. It shows in his play and his apathetic attitude. He needs to get moved. He is an absolute cancer.
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I’ve heard you mention this before a couple of weeks ago. Sounds perffectly logical. He hates the fans. Is an absolute prick to them, doesn’t even look at them or speak to them.
The kid has issues.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:44 pm
Fire Chuck B! Did no one tell him that he can call more than one blitz package a season. DB’s blitzing from the outside?? I would have never guessed thats what he would call unless I watched EVER OTHER GAME he has coached in.
Get rid of “JaMarcus” McClain! I can’t stand him loafing around. At least with Morrison we never had to worry about effort. Trade him now while no one realizes what a bust he really is. And NO MORE DRAFTING SEC PLAYERS IN THE FIRST ROUND! I’m not even sad that we don’t have a first round pick this year. Our second rounders actually play like they want to play for the Silver and Black. JaMarcus McClain….you have no heart.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:44 pm
A couple of observations….
Palmer is a very good quarterback.
We now have a first round pick in 2013.
It’s time to ditch Seymour and switch to the 3-4 defense.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:45 pm
GG Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 6:43 pm
alex is sullivan
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obviously
January 1st, 2012 at 6:45 pm
How pathetic, how embarassing….need a total break away from Al and the losing culture.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:45 pm
[...] gets to bring the zone read to the NFL playoffs because the Raiders can’t get off the field. The Raiders can’t get a stop against anyone. The Raiders can’t defend, and when they are not on the field, Carson “The Interception [...]
January 1st, 2012 at 6:45 pm
first step is a GM. Most likely wont happen until after the SB.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:45 pm
We the D and we choke baby. Just a joke and a choke cuz we the D. Choke Artists we are.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:46 pm
THREE 99 YARD DRIVES COST THE RAIDERS THE PLAYOFFS:
One against Denver (at home)
One against Detroit (at home)
One against San Diego (at home)
okay a couple were only 98 yards.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:46 pm
oldtown
you know who else was “associated” with losing?
Bill Belichick
Gregg Williams
Mike Nolan is associated with quality D’s. He can’t help what his O does, anymore than Hue can help what his D does.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:46 pm
About hue and the new gm. The gm has to be the top guy or there’s really no reason to have him. I do believe that Mark Davis and his advisory crew ought to hire a strong presence, one who can work with Hue, but one who is told, “Hue has one year left on his contract. Work with him and see what you can do with this team, and at the end of the contract, you’ll be sitting down with us to offer your assessment of Hue’s performance.”
This probably means NOT hiring as a gm anyone who is a best bud of Hue.
Hue ought to be able to pick his dc.
BTW, I didn’t like the sound of Hue at the presser, the way he said, “You bet I’m gonna take control of some things.”
Sounded like he thought HE was going to be above the gm. No way, hope Mark Davis and advisors don’t let that happen. A coach should have to answer not only to the owners but also to a football guy. I don’t want Hue having carte blanche.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:46 pm
Hey Boo boo,
The Raiders are playing bocce ball next week.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:47 pm
Rolando played awful and he has horrible body language. He is the qb of our defense and hr carries himself like he had crack whore self esteem.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:47 pm
Alex7:
I still respectfully disagree. Don’t like him and don’t want him. Sorry.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:47 pm
Who would you rather have? Reggie or Wolf Jr.?
January 1st, 2012 at 6:48 pm
That Defense couldn’t stop a team of Blind Girlscouts ..
January 1st, 2012 at 6:48 pm
Wolfy.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:48 pm
I don’t think the D is full of “choke artists.” I just don’t think they are very good.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:49 pm
one was 99.5 yards
January 1st, 2012 at 6:49 pm
Luv
Al Davis wanted Hue to be in control of things. He’ll be allowed to bring in his own DC. He’ll be allowed to cut players.
A GM will look over the draft and work with Hue on roster movements.
Hue has shown he knows talent trading for Curry and Palmer, and turning around the careers of DMac and DHB.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:49 pm
I gave up on RoMac after his ridiculous arrest (along with his poor play). He is supposed to be a leader on this D and acts like an idiot.
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89052RAIDER Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 6:47 pm
Rolando played awful and he has horrible body language. He is the qb of our defense and hr carries himself like he had crack whore self esteem.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:49 pm
I think McClain will become Top 5 MLB in this league, I think he needs a better Defensive Coach and a veteran who he can lean on. The kid got drafted and his back up is not even a proven veteran he can lean on. I believe in year 4 McClain will become a pro bowler. I like his game, he is big, fast and he is upgrade over any MLB available in the free market.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:49 pm
Sounded like he thought HE was going to be above the gm. No way, hope Mark Davis and advisors don’t let that happen. A coach should have to answer not only to the owners but also to a football guy. I don’t want Hue having carte blanche.
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It is not possible that the people that advise Mark Davis on football matters would allow this to happen.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:49 pm
btw if y’all didn’t see this earlier…
raiders front office restructing: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82594e47/article/raiders-plan-frontoffice-restructuring-in-wake-of-davis-passing?module=HP11_headline_stack
take note of the last bit…
January 1st, 2012 at 6:49 pm
I will not be upset if we cut or trade any of our defensive players; although I hope we keep:
Mr. Branch, Mr. Mitchell, Mr. Giordano, Mr. Curry, & Mr. Shaughnessy.
There was absolutely no pass rush today, blitzes were slow as mollasses and soft as french toast as well.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:50 pm
They ARE chokers. If they had a Pro-Bowl for chokers, it would be full of Raiders from the last 9 years.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:50 pm
Amazing I just saw that bs live….they didn’t deserve the postseason……3-5 at home? The excuses for Hue are bullschitt
January 1st, 2012 at 6:50 pm
370.Raider J Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 6:33 pm
That D was some bull$#*+. When that kickoff didn’t result in a safety, everyone knew a 99 yd drive was about to happen.
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100 right about that I have seen it all season especially in the 4th quarter
January 1st, 2012 at 6:51 pm
Rookie coach or not, I think Hue has some explaining to do. His job should not be guaranteed. I’d want concerete answers as to how he intends to fix every problem that obviously exists. From player attitude to incompetent defensive game planning to weak assistant coaches.
I’m not sure who he’d be explaining to, though…
January 1st, 2012 at 6:51 pm
luvmarvhub Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 6:46 pm
BTW, I didn’t like the sound of Hue at the presser, the way he said, “You bet I’m gonna take control of some things.”
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exactly, and why hue wont be here because to be able to acquire the much in demand mckenzie/wolf/etc they’ll justifiably expect full control and hiring their own HC.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:51 pm
They won’t fire Hue. He has a year left on his contract and the new guy won’t feel that it’s best that the O has to learn a new system, again.
Hue’s teams can put up points, but Hue does have some work to do in learning clock management and communication with his O.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:52 pm
Mr. McClain is not even as good as Mr. Morrison is; no way he ends up in the probowl, and you can tell by his play he could care less.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:52 pm
♫♪♫♪♫♪♫♪♫♪99 bottles of beer on the wall…..♫♪♫♪♫♪♫♪♫♪
yes it was really that easy. Just when you thought 99 yards of detroit was bad, sd had to one up that with 99 and one half.
How easy you ask? that easy. like stealing candy from a baby. that easy. easier than detroit had it for sure.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:52 pm
VittorioTafur Vittorio Tafur
And finally, Hue said he “will take a stronger hand in this whole organization (next year), on offense, defense and special teams”
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That could be good or bad.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:52 pm
Now, that is SPEED. Cruz didn’t get caught from behind like Moore did today.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:52 pm
Wow. See the Dallas D? Wh tackles worse, the Raiders or the Cowboys?
January 1st, 2012 at 6:52 pm
The ONLY happy SOB here is mr,mrs,sully halverson,dikwad,and many others,SAME PERSON,right ALEX,jackARSE
January 1st, 2012 at 6:52 pm
Oldtown Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 6:50 pm
They ARE chokers. If they had a Pro-Bowl for chokers, it would be full of Raiders from the last 9 years.
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Lol. Fans should vote on this. Somebody should put these overpaid azholes in their place.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:52 pm
oldtown
no problem with the disagreement.
Curious though, Nolan was with winning teams in Washington, the Jets, and Ravens.
His D’s have often been top-notch. Just curious what you don’t like about him? The 49ers and Dolphins offenses?
January 1st, 2012 at 6:53 pm
215.stablersbeard Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 6:01 pm
Hue just blew up the defense in his presser. Romo also tore them up on CSN…
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“Blow up”? What did he say?
“Our defense just didn’t get the job done”?
January 1st, 2012 at 6:53 pm
Raiders need to hire a GM that has complete control; allow Mr. Hue to hire his coaching staff as most head coaches do.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:53 pm
Seymour….kelly suck….invisible guys. No DEs at all….embarrassed Oakland today
January 1st, 2012 at 6:53 pm
425.alex7 Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 6:46 pm
oldtown
you know who else was “associated” with losing?
Bill Belichick
Gregg Williams
Mike Nolan is associated with quality D’s. He can’t help what his O does, anymore than Hue can help what his D does.
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I guess I’m confused, I thought the HEAD COACH was responsible for the entire team and the co-ordinators reported to him.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:53 pm
Moore was considered a possession receiver coming out of Tennessee. He’s not expected to burn by everyone, though he often has.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:54 pm
stablersbeard Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 6:51 pm
Rookie coach or not, I think Hue has some explaining to do. His job should not be guaranteed. I’d want concerete answers as to how he intends to fix every problem that obviously exists. From player attitude to incompetent defensive game planning to weak assistant coaches.
I’m not sure who he’d be explaining to, though…
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He can start by posting on this blog.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:54 pm
Garcia
are you kidding? When has an Oakland Raiders head coach had complete control over a team?
When??
January 1st, 2012 at 6:54 pm
“Jackson’s play call at the end of the first half got to me.
Eleven seconds left, they’re trying to set it up for Sebass, and they throw down the middle?!”
Did anyone hear Palmer’s take on this?
January 1st, 2012 at 6:55 pm
The fact that coach Hue Jackson has significant power in the organization and reports directly to Davis could make some candidates uncomfortable, and there is an expectation among many general managers that although McKenzie and Wolf could have other options, the Raiders remain a viable possibility.
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Hue has got to be reigned in. The owner has got to put the hammer down and hire Hues boss.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:55 pm
djohnnyg Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 6:42 pm
Tommy Kelly said after the KC game that it was unfair to call the D “choke artists”.
“We ain’t no choke artists”.
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Really? you certainly met all the guidelines, let alone the play.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:56 pm
Ohio
the way Hue is talking, you can assume he’s already been given the ability to fire Chuck, hire a DC, and make roster changes on the D side.
Again, just an average D means we’re 11-5 this year.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:56 pm
When al died
January 1st, 2012 at 6:57 pm
From what Hue said, I think it is safe to assume that Bresnehan won’t be back next year.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:57 pm
Insult to Al with the effort put forth.
Shame on you guys for collecting a paycheck with that effort.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:57 pm
Kelly has been the one constant on a bad defense year in and year out
January 1st, 2012 at 6:57 pm
Hue Jackson is not the answer. Get a GM and a real HC. With a little luck, we could actually become a decent football team.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:58 pm
Ohioraider Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 6:54 pm
stablersbeard Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 6:51 pm
Rookie coach or not, I think Hue has some explaining to do. His job should not be guaranteed. I’d want concerete answers as to how he intends to fix every problem that obviously exists. From player attitude to incompetent defensive game planning to weak assistant coaches.
I’m not sure who he’d be explaining to, though…
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He can start by posting on this blog.
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They definitely read it. Take that to the bank.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:58 pm
lol Silvino
except that Al brought those players in, and their coaches, and the philosophy.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:58 pm
Someone on here doesn’t know football, mike Nolan associated with losing? That statement is incredulous, hey buddy you need to study football this off season Nolan is a kick ass d coordinator.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:58 pm
Raider J Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 6:33 pm
That D was some bull$#*+. When that kickoff didn’t result in a safety, everyone knew a 99 yd drive was about to happen
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Sadly. Yes. Was hoping Norv might run it on first down there and we get our safety anyway, but because SD had nothing to play for and Norv is a lame-duck coach in this game he says to hell with it and makes a smart call.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:59 pm
Just back from the game and I need to sum up my feelings -FUK FUK FUK!
The Bronco’s do absolute squat, score 3 points, lose he game and yet, THEY ARE THE AFC-WEST CHAMPIONS! FUK!
This loss is totally on HUE for the following reasons:
• He didn’t fire Bresnahan when he had a chance.
• He didn’t change the defense to a 3-4.
• He treated MBush like a starting RB WHICH HE IS NOT! If he’s resigned, he should take a pay cut. Everybody has is number now and he’s no big threat.
• He for some reason, ignores the TE game.
• He goes for 3 when he needed 7 every time. The stat of the third quarter should have been the start of 4 down territory. Our D couldn’t stop a one legged man with a crutch. They never had to punt. We’d score 3, they’d score 7. WHY ARE WE KICKING 3 POINTERS WHEN WE NEEDED 7’s? WAKE UP Hue!
• With the exception of Routt, we need serious upgrades in the defensive backfield. It’s either poor play or a really crappy defensive game plan – probably the later.
• Our front defensive 4 is too predictable and got NO PRESSURE on Rivers at all. He had all day to throw the ball.
• What’s with Louis Murphy not getting out of bounds on the last play of he 2nd quarter? If you can’t get out of bounds drop the damn ball and let SeaBass kick a longer ball. That was more dumb execution.
• Where was TJones? Why did Ford play so little? Did I mention that MBush is NOT a starter quality RB? We need to move TJones to slot WR and get 2 new real banging RB’s – 3 if DMac is not getting healed up permanently.
• Hue MUST stop calling the plays. He’s to distracted from the game. Let Al Saunders do his job and call the plays. Then Hue can give special attention to motivating players and coordinators on the sideline with a pat on the back or a foot up their a$$.
• Fix the O-line Hue. Satele-out, Carlisle-out, Barnes-out. Wiz to center, Heyer to LG, Barksdale to LT and do something with BCampbell – play him or dump his a$$. If he plays put him at RG.
• NO MORE I ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY FOR THIS LOSS SPEECHES without an accompanying $100,000. fine on yourself Hue.
• Your next man up approach sounds good but doesn’t work. Fix it!
• Hire Bill Romanowski as the new team Motivator speaker. He’s should throw in his 25¢ worth before every game. He should be allowed to throw people under the bus figuratively speaking or in actuality, if necessary.
• DID I MENTION THAT DENVER LOST BUT STILL WON? FUK! TEBOW DID NOTHING BUT STILL WON! FUK!
• The Raiders don’t deserve sellouts with this level of POOR HOME PERFORMANCE.
• My guess is that you get one more year Hue, and then you really will be held accountable. Your first measured action will be to see how long it takes to FIRE BRESNAHAN. A Fassell firing might be a consideration too!
Needless to say Hue, your failures today really pissed me and thousands of others off. I want some asses kicked, please get to it immediately!
January 1st, 2012 at 6:59 pm
I’m just as pissed as the next man but all things considered we had a decent season. First and foremost we have the worst D coord in the league who should be fired already if he was able to make it out he stadium JC goes down and we have to bring in CP3 off the street which set us back then we lose mcfadden for the season. With all that we didn’t deserve to make the playoffs but at least now moving forward we know what we need to do to become a SB threat next year. New DC New GM full offseason program and we should be straight for next year and hopefully we can stay healthy. If Hue can’t get us AT LEAST to the divisional rd next year he MUST then be let go. This team has too much talent to let it just go to waste. You better get your schit together Hue I’m giving you a pass this season because your a rook and you got dealt a bad hand this season but next year I wanna see this bully you speak of. NO EXCUSES HUE NONE!
January 1st, 2012 at 6:59 pm
hue’s talk of more control is gonna jeopardize our ability to hire a top-class GM as we’re chasing from the packers. and madden/wolf/herock will not let that happen.
January 1st, 2012 at 6:59 pm
Everyone is caliing for chuck b’s head, and i get that he is gone obviously, but wait a minute hue is the HC, not the OC, you’re telling me he doesn’t deserve blame for the d meltdown? He deserves all the blame period and shouldn’t be back, if a half a brain GM is hired, he will toss hue to the curb in a heartbeat!!!!!!
I would like to see at least 8 starters and 8 backups on d be given their walkin papers, this team was going nowhere with these pathetic losers, not dmac Palmer jc ford or Bo Jackson, Marcus Allen and the snake would have made a difference, should have been clear right after the buffalo collapse
January 1st, 2012 at 7:00 pm
our 2012 draft:
1 – Carson Palmer
2 – Joseph Barksdale, Taiwan Jones
3 – Terrell Pryor (wasted)
4 – Jason Campbell
5 – have
6 – have
7 – Curry
Not bad.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:00 pm
What other way can you describe this debacle with other than a ‘choke’. We focking choked and thats all there is to it.
You wanna wank on your stank but cant have your pie and eat it to. WTF!
January 1st, 2012 at 7:01 pm
We should dump Mcclain while we can get something for him. I do think Curry will flourish with good coaching, but Mcclain has a bad attitude and body language. You cannot fix that. Remember Andrew Walter..
January 1st, 2012 at 7:02 pm
They should just send the Titans to the playoffs and make Denver stay home. No team from the AFC West deserves to be in the playoffs.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:02 pm
Eastoaklandraider
great post. This was the most relevant season since 2002, and the first time games in December mattered since then.
Thank you Hue, DMac, JC, Bush, Moore, DHB, the O-line, and Palmer.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:03 pm
What an utterly pathetic choke job by this POS “defense”.
So many times too.
These losers couldn’t stop the Ill. high school football 8a Champs..ESPECIALLY if the game was on the line.
Raider “D” always at their worst when it matters the most.
NOT ONE of these pathetic losers could make a play when it mattered.
Only time it happened was when Huff made that int. against Houston..and even then the Raiders gave up ridiculous plays to put Hous. into position to win.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:04 pm
89052
Michael Crabtree had a bad attitude and bad body language. Looks like he’s matured now.
McClain’s like 22? He’s a kid playing out-of-position. I’ll give him a chance with a legit D coach and 3-4 D.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:04 pm
Gradkowski made the playoffs.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:04 pm
2012 staff
HC Hue (i guess)
OC and play caller Norv
DC defensive PC Spagnuolo
January 1st, 2012 at 7:05 pm
Spags is either staying in St. Louis or going to the Eagles.
Hue bringing in Jets coach, or Ravens coach to run a 3-4/4-3 hybrid.
Wauffle and his “can’t-stop-the-run” D-line is gone.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:05 pm
Fire Hue, the turd making jizz lover. Blow up the team. Attenuate Stank AL’s Taint.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:06 pm
Hues got to much on his plate …a good GM will help a lot….
Bresnahans as good as gone…
January 1st, 2012 at 7:06 pm
Albert, to be fair, the Titans choked vs the Colts and played in a division worse than the AFC West.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:06 pm
Stringer Bell I hear you but let’s see Ro in a 3-4 before we cancel his contract
January 1st, 2012 at 7:07 pm
mcclain has two years of poor attitude, effort, and production. Time to move on. We had the worst defense in the NFL. Cannot be worse with out him. Rolando is an entitled prick.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:07 pm
Fckng great. Wont get to watch any more football cuz this effed up games sucked major ass. bunch of jumbled up fcking mess. pathetic bs. what a bunch of fcked up horse schit. sickening. this aint fckin football.
Wehn you pin a fcking team 99 and one half yards and STILL KNOW THEY ARE IN SORING POSITION, well, thats effed up.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:07 pm
• Fix the O-line Hue. Satele-out, Carlisle-out, Barnes-out. Wiz to center, Heyer to LG, Barksdale to LT and do something with BCampbell – play him or dump his a$$. If he plays put him at RG.
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Barksdale at LT?
January 1st, 2012 at 7:07 pm
Fingers
Hue only ran the O.
That’s all. What all was on his plate? He hasn’t run a draft yet. Hasn’t run a free agency period. He helped make the trade for Curry and Palmer, those worked out. What was too much?
January 1st, 2012 at 7:08 pm
“hue not shaking norvs hand what a punk….”
Gotta admit, that’s classless, purely classless.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:08 pm
99 and 1/2 yards and the muthafckers are in scoring positioin. And you know this too.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:08 pm
We need to change the culture. Any douche that cannot find a reason to respect the organization, city, and fans after being paid 22 million is a loser.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:08 pm
How is it that a lame duck coach can inspire his whole team when there is nothing to play for and our bikini-waxed gnome turns in another dreadfully unprepared performance?
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LOL!
January 1st, 2012 at 7:08 pm
All I can say is that this is one of the most pathetic franchises in the NFL. I am pinning my hopes on Mark Davis and I pray that he makes the right decisions.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:09 pm
How many times can the Raider D fold?
Let me count the ways:
-Buffalo
-Denver
-KC
-Detroit
-San Diego
FIVE FREAKING GAMES that could’ve easily been wins if ONE DANG GUY COULD STEP UP AND MAKE A PLAY.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:09 pm
I’m actually extremely thankful to norv, rivers and the dolts period for showing up and exposing this pathetic defense, how many punts were there by the dolts again?
I am happy that this performance will get the ball rolling towards heads rolling on defense starting with chuck, then mclame, half the db’s Houston should be demoted, so should kam and Seymour should just retire, god bless him but he has seen his better days period.
I would be very gratified if mark Davis fired hue tomorrow and hired either Jeff fisher or jack del rio to replace this all hype bum
January 1st, 2012 at 7:09 pm
99 and 1/2 yards and the muthafckers are in scoring positioin. And you know this too.
thats fcked up man.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:09 pm
The oline does need some work too to get to the championship level we it to be at I agree Satele needs to Go and move lil WIZ to C where he was supposed to be anyway satele got pushed around too much. And I also wanna see what Bcampbell can do.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:09 pm
Tim Tebow won the AFC West!
Congrats. I’m not surprised.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:09 pm
*cue Daniel Powter…*
January 1st, 2012 at 7:09 pm
99 and 1/2 yards and the muthafckers are in scoring positioin. And you know this too.
thats fcked up man.
that is really fcked up.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:09 pm
lol 89052
careful with the “can’t be worse without him.”
You do remember when he missed games vs the Broncos and Dolphins, right? And how much worse our run D was.
You just can’t evaluate lots of these guys playing a terrible scheme. McClain is a 3-4 ILB. Allow him to play that position before passing judgment.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:10 pm
Luvmarvhub Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 7:08 pm
“hue not shaking norvs hand what a punk….”
Gotta admit, that’s classless, purely classless.
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Who cares? Norv is never going to coach again.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:10 pm
some fans made the same comments about losing Nnamdi.
And yes, we did get much worse.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:10 pm
Alex… What was on his plate?… A defense he didn’t pick… Coaches he didn’t pick .. And he was involved in picking players…. You do call Palmer and Curry players.. Right… Trades..
January 1st, 2012 at 7:10 pm
…Sorry. The KC game was way outta reach. That brings it down to 4 games.
My bad.
We’d only be 12-4.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:10 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 7:09 pm
Tim Tebow won the AFC West!
Congrats. I’m not surprised.
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Tebow didn’t win sh*t. He is the worst QB in the league and finished 8-8. That is how pathetic the Raiders are.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:11 pm
Alex,
I have hate for a guy that hates playing for any NFL team that is paying him 22 million. Go back to BFE Alabama. He is no competitor. A leader is part of changing the culture and leadership..
January 1st, 2012 at 7:11 pm
99 and 1/2 yards to the Raider D is the equivelent in baseball to a runner on third with no outs. Except the 99 1/2 yard score has a higher probability of happening.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:11 pm
Boss
Fisher and Del Rio are the kings of 8-8.
Nothing special there. Hue has at least shown he can churn out a top NFL offense.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:11 pm
Those trades a GM would have handled …. Hues in over his head … Needs a GM
January 1st, 2012 at 7:11 pm
alex7 Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 7:09 pm
He MAY be better in a 3-4, but his inability to bring Matthew Stafford down in the open field one on one doesn’t instill much confidence.
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lol 89052
careful with the “can’t be worse without him.”
You do remember when he missed games vs the Broncos and Dolphins, right? And how much worse our run D was.
You just can’t evaluate lots of these guys playing a terrible scheme. McClain is a 3-4 ILB. Allow him to play that position before passing judgment.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:11 pm
hue jax has mismanaged his staff, players, the game clock, timeouts, challenges, and roster decisions.
he is a great OC but has too many short comings as a head coach
if he focuses just on play calling he is very good maybe he can be the head offensive coordinator
January 1st, 2012 at 7:11 pm
99 and 1/2 yards and the muthafckers are in scoring positioin. And you know this too.
thats fcked up man.
Our downgrade this season was complete.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:12 pm
99 and 1/2 yards and the muthafckers are in scoring positioin. And you know this too.
thats just to fcked up man.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:12 pm
Fingers
so you admit Hue was NOT involved with the D, or hiring coaches, or our last draft, or our last free agency period.
Still don’t see why you’d think there was too much on his plate.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:12 pm
Chuck B is graded on what? wins & losses?
8-8 is same as Marshall, right?
Hue Jax is graded on what? wins & losses?
8-8 is same as Cable, right?
so 2011 was a wasted season … we accomplished nothing
we went from average to average. i’m not impressed
hire McKenzie. let him pick his own HC and assemble the staff
January 1st, 2012 at 7:13 pm
510.Albert Bigelow Villapiano Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 7:10 pm
Luvmarvhub Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 7:08 pm
“hue not shaking norvs hand what a punk….”
Gotta admit, that’s classless, purely classless.
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Who cares? Norv is never going to coach again.
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What? Does Hue blame Norv for not rolling over and letting the Raiders win?
How dare Norv pass when he’s down at his own 1/2 yd. line.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:13 pm
Umm, Hue runs the O. That’s it. So he’s graded on the O.
Chuck runs the D. He’s graded on the D.
Don’t make it complicated.
Mr. Davis did EVERYTHING else.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:13 pm
PLayers have to responsible for demonstrating they have mastered the basics, like proper tackling, not the DC.
If you have a DC teaching takcling, you have a team of players that ought not be in the NFL.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:13 pm
Hey, at least we aren’t losers anymore!
January 1st, 2012 at 7:14 pm
We need the GM for the draft and so we don’t give away the farm the old Raiders got guys like Carson Palmer on the cheap, aside from the Jay Schroeder trade
January 1st, 2012 at 7:14 pm
I’m critical of Hue but I believe he deserves a clean start coaching the Raiders… With a credible GM .. New D coach …
January 1st, 2012 at 7:15 pm
I just read Badasses, the book about Madden’s Raiders. When they needed defensive help, Al went out and drafted guys who could tackle and play like hell. I don’t what happened to that Al. Our biggest problem on defense is that he picks athletes instead of football players.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:15 pm
we should have only gotten better from last year but all the coaching changes have stuntted our growth again
January 1st, 2012 at 7:15 pm
This isnt a situation where they gave away the farm, since the Raiders never built a farm to begin with.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:15 pm
Hue can be graded on wins and losses when he has a say on the D, on personnel, on hiring his own coaches, etc.
Kubiak saved his job in Houston when….
they brought in Wade Phillips and turned that D around.
Only so much a coach can control.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:15 pm
516.Manure Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 7:11 pm
99 and 1/2 yards to the Raider D is the equivelent in baseball to a runner on third with no outs. Except the 99 1/2 yard score has a higher probability of happening.
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Truth!
January 1st, 2012 at 7:15 pm
1st and 10 at your own 1/2 yard line, 99 and 1/2 yards to go.
No fcking amount af yards can stop our D. Nobody can stop Chucky B and his D.
I’ll bet not one person today took any comfort at all that SD had to travel 99 1/2 yards to score. There was no differnce to them today if they had to travel 1/2 yard or 99 and 1 fcking half yards.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:16 pm
Fire Rob Ryan!
January 1st, 2012 at 7:16 pm
This loss was unacceptable. Period. Hue Jackson cannot get his players ready to go. Too many games where his teams are unprepared. Leading the league in penalties also unacceptable. A Jeff Fisher will fix the penalties alone. The penalties cost this team games.
New coach please
January 1st, 2012 at 7:16 pm
first video on nfl.com “Palmer throws pick WHEN IT MATTERS MOST” (emphasis added:)
get used to lots of 300 yard games and 2 td 2 int performances. aka AVERAGE
two premium picks for an old average qb. greatest trade in history of football.
Hue either panicked or grossly overestimated the roster he had. We have a lot of holes still and need premium picks.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:16 pm
Hue was 8-8 as a rookie head coach. So was Gruden, and there was less talent in our division back then (Stan Humphries, Elvis Grbac , anyone?) – so its on him in terms of clock management, etc., but theres more to it than that.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:17 pm
you guys DO REMEMBER what our offense looked like before Hue right?
League-worst in TDs scored. 31st-ranked O in 2008. Boring QB play. DMac looking like a bust. TE our only weapon. No creativity.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:17 pm
Alex… I don’t need to ” admitt ” anything…. It’s common knowledge that Al picked the coaching staff… What’s you point..?
January 1st, 2012 at 7:17 pm
first video on nfl.com “Palmer throws pick WHEN IT MATTERS MOST” (emphasis added:)
get used to lots of 300 yard games and 2 td 2 int performances. aka AVERAGE
two premium picks for an old average qb. greatest trade in history of football.
Hue either panicked or grossly overestimated the roster he had. We have a lot of holes still and need premium picks.
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That was with added emphasis, but how many picks did Rivers throw this year? The whole point is reducing Palmer attempts, and getting a running game to balance the attack. Playing defense would help, too. That loss was on the defense , not on Palmer, he dropped 335 yds today
January 1st, 2012 at 7:17 pm
99 and 1/2 yards and the muthafckers are in scoring positioin. And you know this too.
You just knew it.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:18 pm
That was a safety. Back of ball was on the chalk….
But if you never see the other teams punter, not even once, your doomed….
January 1st, 2012 at 7:18 pm
This loss is not on Hue Jackson, although the botched end of the first half was his fault.
The team always played under pressure all year long. No game was decided going into the 4th quarter. We should have kept Jared Gaither until He was healthy. Samson Satele is a career back-up.
Carson Palmer needs a full offseason and training camp to return to Pro Bowl status. Darren McFadden and the whole team needed the ability to perform off-season workouts. Blame the Owners for all the injuries this year.
This loss is on a defensive coordinator who wasn’t even qualified to hold a position in the UFL.
God rest his soul, but Al Davis hired Chuck B for peanuts. Sign Romeo Crennel and hire a GM.
Like it or not, the Raiders do not belong in the playoffs yet. The Steelers would have destroyed them.
Defense wins, Championships.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:18 pm
good post Raider Sam.
Just like Gruden, we saw an offense improve tremendously, and our team compete against top teams in the league, before we finally turned that corner in 2000 with VETERAN players brought in on DEFENSE (Eric Allen, Rod Woodson, William Thomas, Sam Adams, John Parella).
Will see similar plan.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:18 pm
INT wasn’t Palmer’s fault. The only mistake he made today was at the end of the half.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:18 pm
Tackling isn’t an issue. It’s scheme and match ups. Who in their right mind puts LBs on their top receivers? Who runs Tampa 2 when it always bites us? Who runs zone when they are horrible at it?
I’ll tell you who, someone who has been coaching in the UFL.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:19 pm
Alex.. Al’s gone , but this was basically a team he put together … What do I need to admitt?
January 1st, 2012 at 7:19 pm
Hue, you are responsible for this stinking season. Did we blow anybody off the field? Hue, you ass kissing phony, resign.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:19 pm
id like to see hue coach up jabustis
January 1st, 2012 at 7:19 pm
when you go up against the raider d of chucky b, anywhere, ANTWHERE on the field and you are in scoring position.
Even 5 yards deep. I blame the 105 kick off return on chuck too. just seems natural.
NOBODY can stop chucky b and the choke artist D.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:20 pm
FIRE HUE FIRE HUE FIRE HUE FIRE HUE FIRE HUE FIRE HUE FIRE HUE FIRE HUE
January 1st, 2012 at 7:20 pm
silverback Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 7:07 pm
• Fix the O-line Hue. Satele-out, Carlisle-out, Barnes-out. Wiz to center, Heyer to LG, Barksdale to LT and do something with BCampbell – play him or dump his a$$. If he plays put him at RG.
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Barksdale at LT?
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TYPO – Probably temporary insanity from having been at the game . RT – OBVIOUSLY! Thanks for pointing that out.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:21 pm
Whats the name of SD’s punter?
January 1st, 2012 at 7:21 pm
gruden would never let the refs walk all over him like hue does
January 1st, 2012 at 7:21 pm
Hey Manure,
Funny maybe Hue will read this and show it to Bresnahan and hopefully repeat it until a change is made.
I would hate to lose all our coacheS, but the coverage teams suck too.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:21 pm
Fingers
I was just confused by you saying Hue had too much on his plate. If anything, he’s about to be given more to do, and we’ll be better for it.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:21 pm
No doubt. After the Detroit game and watching McClain and Boyd running around like the keystone cops should have convinced Chuck B to scrap that altogether.
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morilla Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 7:18 pm
Tackling isn’t an issue. It’s scheme and match ups. Who in their right mind puts LBs on their top receivers? Who runs Tampa 2 when it always bites us? Who runs zone when they are horrible at it?
I’ll tell you who, someone who has been coaching in the UFL.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:22 pm
luvmarvhub Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 6:36 pm
Don’t get me wrong. I think we can do a lot better than Bresnahan, but he only had to work with what he had to work with.
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True secondary was never healthy but Bresnahans insistence on Zone with players who clearly week after week after week could not properly execute it and when those coverages were called and with what personnel is ALL Chuck B.
He sucks and you can;t tell me that what? Like SEVEN 1st round picks on D can be that horrible if the calls were better.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:22 pm
I think you’ll see Hue Back next year… A GM…. And a new D coach …
January 1st, 2012 at 7:22 pm
Artillery coverage on st doesn’t matter even a little when ur defense NEVER makes a stop. Not even one.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:22 pm
This season will be remembered as the season of 99.5 yds. Hue wasnt great but I dont want a new regime. Just let him get his own DC and go from there.
oh please cut Khalif Barnes already.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:22 pm
99 and 1/2 yards and the muthafckers are in scoring positioin. And you know this too.
105 yards and your in scorin position. wtf.
You take the 5 yards deep, and before you crack off one step, the entire stadium knows your in scoring position. unfckingbelivafckable
January 1st, 2012 at 7:22 pm
Hue deserves at least one off-season without an out-of-touch GM meddling over his shoulder before he should accept full responsibility. Still a lot of “scholarships” out there.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:22 pm
Hue can be graded on wins and losses when he has a say on the D, on personnel, on hiring his own coaches, etc.
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Hue made quite a few personnel moves after Al’s passing.
since when does a HC say “I have no control over the Defense” ???
thats rubbish. If you’re looking to make excuses for a coach, try Chuck Bresnahan!
lost ShoNasty, Chekwa, CJ37 during the season. Henderson hasn’t been healthy. Huff missed 4 games. Moss missed some time. ROMAC’s head elsewhere.
oh yeah – and didn’t he inherit a Defense that just lost the #1 CB in the NFL ???
didn’t Stan Routt alone have more flags than the entire Green Bay Packers ???
January 1st, 2012 at 7:23 pm
twocents
how do you blow anyone out with the 28th ranked D giving up points almost every drive?
Kinda impossible.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:23 pm
first video on nfl.com “Palmer throws pick WHEN IT MATTERS MOST” (emphasis added:)
get used to lots of 300 yard games and 2 td 2 int performances. aka AVERAGE
two premium picks for an old average qb. greatest trade in history of football.
Hue either panicked or grossly overestimated the roster he had. We have a lot of holes still and need premium picks.
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That was with added emphasis, but how many picks did Rivers throw this year? The whole point is reducing Palmer attempts, and getting a running game to balance the attack. Playing defense would help, too. That loss was on the defense , not on Palmer, he dropped 335 yds today
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Wasn’t even Palmer’s fault. Ford slipped on the route
January 1st, 2012 at 7:23 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 6:59 pm
I’m just as pissed as the next man but all things considered we had a decent season. First and foremost we have the worst D coord in the league who should be fired already if he was able to make it out he stadium JC goes down and we have to bring in CP3 off the street which set us back then we lose mcfadden for the season. With all that we didn’t deserve to make the playoffs but at least now moving forward we know what we need to do to become a SB threat next year. New DC New GM full offseason program and we should be straight for next year and hopefully we can stay healthy. If Hue can’t get us AT LEAST to the divisional rd next year he MUST then be let go. This team has too much talent to let it just go to waste. You better get your schit together Hue I’m giving you a pass this season because your a rook and you got dealt a bad hand this season but next year I wanna see this bully you speak of. NO EXCUSES HUE NONE!
January 1st, 2012 at 7:24 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 7:22 pm
….didn’t Stan Routt alone have more flags than the entire Green Bay Packers ???
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The excuses they made for Routt on this blog is quite sad. Dude is a walking talking first down flag. Make that 17 penalties for the year by 1 single player. Really expensive player on our roster too.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:24 pm
alex7 Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 7:00 pm
our 2012 draft:
1 – Carson Palmer
2 – Joseph Barksdale, Taiwan Jones
3 – Terrell Pryor (wasted)
4 – Jason Campbell
5 – have
6 – have
7 – Curry
Not bad.
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I agree. Everyone will, of course, forget all that and just act like we gave away our picks for nothing. But I’ll take Palmer over possibly any 1st round draft pick we’ve had in the last 15 years. I would absolutely take Curry for a 7th rounder. Jones and Barksdale will be significant players on this team for the next 10 years. Those are good picks. Jury’s out on Pryor. Guess we’ll get some feel next camp. He’ll probably be moved to WR or something if it’s clear he’s not an NFL QB.
Or send him to Denver. Maybe he’ll stink it up and get into the playoffs anyway and get all of the credit for doing so.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:24 pm
Fire Chucky B!!!!
January 1st, 2012 at 7:24 pm
How could Hue be criticized for his GM skills when he’s yet to have one off-season as a GM? Last off season was all Al’s.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:24 pm
To sum it all up, Tom freaking cable had the raiders headed in a better direction than hue, same record, better on offense and defense and swept the division……I regret cheering his firing now and all the support I ever showed for hue. He is all smoke and mirrors and has been exposed for what he is….a scam artist
Nnamdi, you are missed, routt, you are a bum period, yes you have skills, and yes you were penalized more than the packers d all year, translation you suck @ss
January 1st, 2012 at 7:24 pm
The Dallas D looks real Raiderish tonight..
January 1st, 2012 at 7:25 pm
Ball sacks!
January 1st, 2012 at 7:25 pm
RR
Hue had zero say on defense because you can’t change something mid-season.
You know this.
Hue traded a 7th for Curry, who’s now our best LB. A+
Traded a mid-1st for best QB since Gannon. B.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:25 pm
ArtilleryShell Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 7:21 pm
Hey Manure,
Funny maybe Hue will read this and show it to Bresnahan and hopefully repeat it until a change is made.
I would hate to lose all our coacheS, but the coverage teams suck too.
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D coaches sucks major ball
special teams needs some attention
January 1st, 2012 at 7:25 pm
Give Hue one draft and one FA period before he’s criticized for his personnel management.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:25 pm
Jlofty I saw the same thing but like you said if we can’t make the puny then… U don’t deserve squat
January 1st, 2012 at 7:26 pm
Fingers: only if we never see the Gants punter….
January 1st, 2012 at 7:26 pm
McClain couldn’t play well if you held a gun to his head…..sorry, I guess that’s really his thing.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:26 pm
Tom freaking cable had the raiders headed in a better direction than hue, same record, better on offense and defense and swept the division……I regret cheering his firing now and all the support I ever showed for hue. He is all smoke and mirrors and has been exposed for what he is….a scam artist
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Boss = stud blogger
January 1st, 2012 at 7:26 pm
boss01 Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 7:24 pm
To sum it all up, Tom freaking cable had the raiders headed in a better direction than hue,
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Cable didn’t have the team in playoff contention the final week of the season. Hue clinched better-than-Cable status last week. Sorry.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:26 pm
lol Boss. You’re a funny kid. Like Tom Cable did any of the x’s and o’s with Hue and Marshall here.
When Cable called the plays in 2009, our O was ranked…
31st.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:27 pm
DMAC we needed you this was for everyting and you b!tched out. Grow a pair.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:27 pm
Cable also benefited from Hue turning around the offense last year.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:27 pm
Palmer threw for over 400 yards today. He had one pick in 40+ attempts on a play where his receiver slipped and fell down and that was really the sole reason for the pick.
Anyone blaming Palmer after this one is as lost as our defense (which by the way did not force a single punt today … which might have a little something to do with this loss).
January 1st, 2012 at 7:27 pm
Cable played Fargas over DMac.
Do we even need to go further?
January 1st, 2012 at 7:27 pm
aig-raiders Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 7:24 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 7:22 pm
….didn’t Stan Routt alone have more flags than the entire Green Bay Packers ???
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The excuses they made for Routt on this blog is quite sad. Dude is a walking talking first down flag. Make that 17 penalties for the year by 1 single player. Really expensive player on our roster too.
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They don’t call him “toast” for nothing. Dude gets burnt waaaaay too often!
January 1st, 2012 at 7:28 pm
hue should get one more season to clone himself to gm, oc, assistant coach, dc
i hope doctur kavorkiean availible for this procedure
January 1st, 2012 at 7:28 pm
FIRE CHUKY B! Has been my motto since the day the idiot got hired…told you we would not make the playoffs with that inbred managing the D.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:28 pm
This was our most exciting season since ‘02, with us being in contention in the final week of the season. Hasn’t happened in nearly a decade. I don’t see Mark making any drastic moves. I think Hue gets one more season.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:28 pm
We beat a Jets team this year that blew us out 38-3 under Cable two years ago.
We beat a Texans team that owned us under Cable.
We hung in with a Patriots team that blew us out under Cable.
Come on, don’t dumb down the blog.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:28 pm
We obviously paid too much for wimbley doesn’t make enough plays for the money he makes
January 1st, 2012 at 7:28 pm
we were in contention last year for the west
January 1st, 2012 at 7:29 pm
alex7 Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 7:27 pm
Cable played Fargas over DMac.
Do we even need to go further?
alex7 Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 7:26 pm
lol Boss. You’re a funny kid. Like Tom Cable did any of the x’s and o’s with Hue and Marshall here.
When Cable called the plays in 2009, our O was ranked…
31st.
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Thank you.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:29 pm
Alex,
Cable wasn’t a good play caller. Thats why Al hired Hue
Cable as HC without play calling duties was just as good (if not better) than Hue Jackson
another year of Cable/Jackson instead of Jackson/Saunders would have been the difference between making & missing the playoffs
January 1st, 2012 at 7:29 pm
99 and one half yard and the muthfckers made it look easy.
noone gets in the way of chucky b and his brilliant d
January 1st, 2012 at 7:30 pm
Alex, I don’t blame them for wanting Hue gone. Some fans get so angry after losses that it impairs their ability to think with perspective, and they tend to blurt knee jerk reactions.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:30 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 7:28 pm
This was our most exciting season since ‘02, with us being in contention in the final week of the season. Hasn’t happened in nearly a decade. I don’t see Mark making any drastic moves. I think Hue gets one more season.
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With the talent that this team had at the beginning of the year this year can be solidly summed up as a “waste”. This team had no heart or desire to be ‘great’.
Fire HueJax.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:30 pm
Yeah. Slowlando needs an intervention. Otherwise Draft a middle linebacker from the U of Miami…those MLBs are friggin machines!
January 1st, 2012 at 7:30 pm
Devilr8er Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 7:27 pm
DMAC we needed you this was for everyting and you b!tched out. Grow a pair.
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You guys act like it’s the players decision to not play. It’s usually the coaching staff and doctors keeping them out.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:30 pm
Why the hell is Wimbley running after Gates? didnt the 1st game teach us anything? CHUKY B is retard.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:30 pm
unfckingbefckinglievafckingable
99 and one half yards.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:30 pm
Devilr8er Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 7:27 pm
DMAC we needed you this was for everyting and you b!tched out. Grow a pair.
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Yeah that gets me. For the past couple of weeks when the camera pans to him, there he is. Just yukking it up whit a smile on his face from ear to eat. Bugs the fck out of me.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:31 pm
Question is who is our new DC next year?
January 1st, 2012 at 7:31 pm
A Simple Question,which game ,if any,did the Raiders come out of halftime with a different plan?Whether ahead or behind,it was stay the course,JUNK,mostly
January 1st, 2012 at 7:31 pm
Carson Palmer is not worth 12 million a year
January 1st, 2012 at 7:31 pm
i knew we had an oc just wast sure what he does if he is not calling plays
January 1st, 2012 at 7:32 pm
The talent of this team? really? other than DMac and Palmer where the fruk is the talent? this teams personnel suxs
January 1st, 2012 at 7:32 pm
99 and a half yards and the muthafckers ate lunch while they walked down the field.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:32 pm
Davis really messed up Wimbley’s contract when Davis tried and bump Wimbley’s pay up a little, it went over the 20% rule, and jumped from $2 million to $10 million.
That was bad.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:33 pm
morilla Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 7:30 pm
Devilr8er Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 7:27 pm
DMAC we needed you this was for everyting and you b!tched out. Grow a pair.
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Yeah that gets me. For the past couple of weeks when the camera pans to him, there he is. Just yukking it up whit a smile on his face from ear to eat. Bugs the fck out of me.
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How are you guys knocking DMAC? If he’s hurt he’s hurt. No one plays harder when they’re on the field. If some of those guys on D tackled the way DMAC does after an INT they could have kept Rivers from driving 99.5 yards
January 1st, 2012 at 7:33 pm
This years offense was improved … Especially the Oline …but the Defense went downhill …no play makers on the D ….especially the secondary
January 1st, 2012 at 7:34 pm
Personally, I will leave the decision on Hue up to a new GM. I think Hue is such a suckup that he will accept any role that he is given.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:34 pm
ANYONE who said this wasn’t on Hue is sadly mistaken and dillusional. Am I the only one who saw the pattern on offense? Hand off to Bush off tackle on 1st down, pass second down? Horrible clock management, horrible use of personel. Inability to get his stars to play hurt. This guy built a huge pansy not a BULLY.
Bresnahan must go, immediately. We need a GM and a real head coach. Gruden would take the job back in a second.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:34 pm
Wimbley is a undersized DE or an OLB in a 3-4…
January 1st, 2012 at 7:35 pm
I really dont get the Fire Hue philosophy. Even the wife beater got more than 1 season.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:36 pm
292.luvmarvhub Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 6:15 pm
Just finished listening to Hue’s presser. Have mixed feelings. Yes, it’s good to hear the truth–we can’t, don’t “finish games,” and so forth, but what I heard was nothing but criticism for the D, criticism which is MORE THAN justified, and what I heard was no vote of confidence in the DC: Hue said, “I’ve made these feelings known to Chuck,” and Hue said, “We got good enough players to win, it’s not the players [on D.]”
However, then he went on to contradict himself by blasting players by saying they don’t have the attitude that gets it done.
However, he made only an oblique reference to the offense in saying they had to settle for less than tds at times.
Are you kidding me? How many times did we cross the opponents 35 and settle for 3s? And now the truth is out if you listened to Gannon on tv. When the Raiders called a timeout at an inopportune moment, in essence wasting it, Gannon shared that Palmer told him it was hard to get quality time with Hue in meetings. That that had to change if they were to get on the same page.
So, what the hell was Hue doing if not meeting with his O?
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Getting this fixed this off season will turn us around. A new GM will allow Hue to just stick to Coaching. Hue spent too much time on the phone “looking at every possibility to make this team better.” He was too busy playing GM to spend time with Palmer.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:36 pm
Macho
Shaughnessy, Wiz, Moore, Ford, DHB, Jones, Curry, Houston, Bryant, Van Dyke, Chekwa, Reece.
We have a solid nucleus of 26 year old and under talent.
Might have even more depending on the development of Barksdale, Bruce Campbell,
January 1st, 2012 at 7:37 pm
Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 7:32 pm
The talent of this team? really? other than DMac and Palmer where the fruk is the talent? this teams personnel suxs
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There’s plenty of talent on this team and it is evident to any blind fking g-ma from Toledo. The coaching staff sux and there is absolutely no reason, none, why this team which was once 7-4 finished 8-8. Fire HueJax.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:37 pm
Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 7:32 pm
The talent of this team? really? other than DMac and Palmer where the fruk is the talent? this teams personnel suxs
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Moore
Ford
Veldheer
Wiz
DHB
Reece
Shaunessy
Curry – work on coverage
Cartwright – special teams beast
Jano
Lechler
January 1st, 2012 at 7:37 pm
Epic faceplant.
Culture change is going to involve cutting some talent.
We need a gm with big brass ones, who will face the truth with some of these bonehead players and coaches.
Chuck B = gone.
Blow up the secondary.
Mc Clain may get one more shot but I say bust.
We need a killer instinct leader on this D.
Code Black was fruity rainbow colors today.
Holy crap, hallelujah,….where’s the Tylenol.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:37 pm
macho, ignore them. They’re either dumb, over-emotional, don’t understand what a Raiders head coach is in charge of, or racist.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:37 pm
No Desire, No Heart. Jacoby Ford was sending out tweets at 3:30 am last night. This team is soft and it is Hue’s fault. CLEAN HOUSE NOW.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:37 pm
Raiders weren’t happy with the 98 yards they gave detroit.
They had to top it for SD. No problem.
Any team anywhere on the the field is in scoring position. A red zone anywhere on the fcking field.
Our d is really good at this. We are a red zone d at all times.
we can ‘give it up’ with the best. we are the best.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:37 pm
Twist it all you want.
Cable 8-8
Hue 8-8
Sorry.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:37 pm
Credit the dischargers for coming to play today. Many people thought they wouldn’t show, but they certainly did and that was part of the equation. I was shocked to see Vincent Jackson out there today. He had a lot to lose and nothing to gain playing banged up in this one.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:38 pm
Shaughnessy, Wiz…solid….
Moore, Ford, DHB, Jones, Curry, Houston, Bryant, Van Dyke, Chekwa, Reece, could be replaced in wavers by comparable talent who is not starting in other teams.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:38 pm
601,sully44,what the frig is this,a new cough syrup?Oh,and please stfu,dont want youre blather!
January 1st, 2012 at 7:38 pm
I also don’t like the Bengals for asking so much for Palmer, but he played well for us DHB needs to improve his hands, he should of had a TD and the one they gave him could have been overturned.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:38 pm
raidernationdave, use those brain cells. Come on, try it.
Ask yourself, why oh why did we lose vs the Bills, Lions, Chargers, and Broncos.
Try really hard, and you will see there certainly is a reason.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:39 pm
We have a chance to get a legit coach. Hue aint it. He should fired. He gambled the franchise on bad trades and his teams have been blown out way too many time
Get me a well regarded DEFENSIVE minded head coach that will stop the penalties.
Any OC can win with DMAC as long as they give him the ball….1hen he plays.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:39 pm
Alex got me, Forgot to mention Jones too.
I would love to see them move Campbell to Dline.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:39 pm
This Cowboys defense looks soooo familiar.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:40 pm
Alex, yes cable was not a good HC, and he benefited from hue as OC, but you’re telling me that hue is more than just an OC? Wake up, he is all smoke and mirrors, a blind man can see his iq is in the Jamarcus Russell range
January 1st, 2012 at 7:40 pm
that secondary that needs rebuilding would look a lot less challenging with STERLING MOORE around!! when jerry mac and that 9ers fan can see that Moore is better than half the secondary and he’s still let go. we know there are personnel issues.
As far as Palmer goes, I realize the D is the no. 1 culprit today. obviously chuckB should be fired immediately, but Palmer is not clutch. 300 yards is not an argument for a good qb. TD-INT. thats what matters.
I would take Soup over Palmer straight up but since we put a 1st n 2nd into Palmer we gotta stick with him.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:41 pm
We beat a Jets team this year that blew us out 38-3 under Cable two years ago.
We beat a Texans team that owned us under Cable.
We hung in with a Patriots team that blew us out under Cable.
Come on, don’t dumb down the blog.
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Alex,
how many non-playoff teams did we lose to this season?
thanks bubba
January 1st, 2012 at 7:41 pm
SnB
you didn’t like the Curry trade? You said bad “trades”.
You didn’t like what Palmer did vs Chargers, Vikings, Bears in October with little practice? Didn’t like how he played today with no running game?
You’d rather we’d have gone with Boller after starting the season 4-2?
January 1st, 2012 at 7:42 pm
Hue should have fired CHUKY B the day he traded for Palmer, I blame Hue for keeping the inbred Chuky B.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:42 pm
Why are so many people pissed off? Easy. This team has decent enough talent to beat most teams in the NFL but it hasn’t lived up to its potential and everyone, at least those that know football, knows it.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:42 pm
djohnnyg Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 7:37 pm
Twist it all you want.
Cable 8-8
Hue 8-8
Sorry.
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Nice try.
Cable 17-27
Hue 8-8
January 1st, 2012 at 7:43 pm
Hue was sounding in the presser like he’s going to evaluate every aspect of the organization, not just the players, coaches and system. I thought I was listening to a GM. He was also borderline calling out the defense ala Callahan.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:43 pm
lazy Rockstar
we only lost THREE games to non-playoff teams this year.
Kinda good.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:43 pm
I don’t have much to say ……..but I don’t ever want to hear that stupid ” Code Black” Sh8T in here ever again.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:43 pm
If Hue is given another year it won’t kill me.
I don’t think the Raiders will do sh!t but at least give him his own staff and see what happens.
However, what I would MOST like to see is a GM brought in who will set a new standard in Oakland and will change the culture by bringing in a new staff that will be 180 degrees different from Al Davis’ philosophy that has proved ineffective over the last decade.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:43 pm
lazy Rockstar
we only lost THREE games to non-playoff teams this year.
Kinda good..
January 1st, 2012 at 7:44 pm
alex7 Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 7:38 pm
raidernationdave, use those brain cells. Come on, try it.
Ask yourself, why oh why did we lose vs the Bills, Lions, Chargers, and Broncos.
Try really hard, and you will see there certainly is a reason.
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Yeah that reason was HueJax and his merry band of F-ups.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:44 pm
I just don’t think it’s a ridiculous point to bring up comparisons between Cable and Hue.
The records are what they are at the end of the day.
Personally, I like Hue. I love his passion for the Raiders.
Just don’t act like it’s so silly when we are talking about identical records. In fact Cable improved the team by three games and Hue (thus far) as not improved the team one bit where it matters most…the won loss record.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:45 pm
So now we know that Wimbley and McClain can’t cover deep (whooda thunk). Please move Wimbley back to DE and McClain…who knows.
This team needs some LBs that can pass cover.
Thomas Howard anybody?
January 1st, 2012 at 7:45 pm
the Bills D meltdown was one of them.
Chiefs game without a QB was expected.
Dolphins went on a tear late this season.
So what of it?
January 1st, 2012 at 7:45 pm
Cable was not the answer never will be, but u guys are delusional if you think hue is, I’m out and won’t be showing up here until I hear that a real HC is hired, and half the d is gone
January 1st, 2012 at 7:45 pm
I am not paying CP 12mill. Renegotiate or trade and give JC 5mil and use the savings to build up this horrible, horrible defense
January 1st, 2012 at 7:46 pm
Is Hues press conference available as a link for us east coast fans
January 1st, 2012 at 7:46 pm
Djohnny
WHY were the Raiders 8-8 last year? What was their big difference between the 5-11 team of 2009 that Cable was in charge of, running the offense?
Oh yeah, we brought Hue in and he turned the O around from 31st to 5th.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:46 pm
Delusional thinking = hire a DC from the UFL
Rational thinking = don’t do that
January 1st, 2012 at 7:46 pm
“8-8 ain’t what I want to be. Im not happy with this season. I have underachieved. Its just that simple.”
Hue Jack City
January 1st, 2012 at 7:46 pm
McClain = Bust. Absolute truth.
His head never seems to be in the game, and he’s the shot caller on D.
I’ve never seen a MLB misread a run play so often. Nearly always in the wrong gap. The most basic counter play leaves his feet tangled up…
He’s not gonna get any better. He doesn’t look like he wants to be.
He has to be traded (If we can get a second or high 3rd) or cut.
Period.
Let someone else waste time on him.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:47 pm
I think chewkwa and van dyke are primmed to be pro bowlers soon under rod woodson both played well as rookies
January 1st, 2012 at 7:47 pm
Please stop the moronic talk about Cable…aim high fellas! if you want Hue out, at least talk about Cowher or Dungy, heck even Gruden!
January 1st, 2012 at 7:47 pm
Hue was totally right the defense was the same as it ever was, the exception is holding one team under 15 points. What was this team made of? It was made of a fairly good offense all year long with the exception of a few games that were highly influenced by the turnover with injured players. The special team below average if they did not Jano and Lechler they would be aweful!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The defense, what the Raiders had a defense. Surprise to me. No there is no doubt Chuck has to go. I repeat no doubt about Chuck at all. Only a few defense of player have to go. If they change their technique, of tackling only the Raiders would be in the playoffs this season alone. The tackling style of Lito sheppard in that secondary with the youth of the Raiders will propel this team to the playoff. Well, There are a those that are not a candidate for the Raiders future ,in my opinion because they are not in the position to adjust with the tackling skills needed and the covering skills. The two player I think of are Boyd and Mitchell. All others have a chance if the are able to converge on plays. Example 3rd and 10 yards for the opposing team vs Raiders on defense and 3rd and 10 yards vs the top 15 defenses. They Raiders appear hardly bait a team into the short passes and then converge to make a tackle before the first down. When this happens time and time again. There needs to be an eval. can the players not made the stop underneath the first down maker or am I (defense coord.) not creative enough to ,at times, direct the pass underneath for the Raiders to converge on. The problem is the Raiders defense have been aimless at both. The problem is the head coach has not addressed the the primary issue. Is it the Defensive coach or the players. I believe it is primarly the Defensive coach and a few player, but if the few players that think can cover keep the same tackling techniques they had in the past,let them go!!!!The same collective on defense have been there for years and not improving so do what Kansas city did. Make a change and give the Raiders a chance to be contenders.
Example, in the last game I saw Stanford routt practically run into a blocker so he would not have to make a tackle down field, on a touch down play. This guy is a cornerback in open space and he was like a magnet being drawn in so he could be blocked!!!!!
HUE, YOU ARE RIGHT !!!!! Don’t take the blame on this Raider defensive incompetence. Yes, you made some minor mistakes but if you have even and average defense the Raiders would be in the playoffs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
January 1st, 2012 at 7:47 pm
Carson Palmer > Jason Campbell
Carson Palmer left-handed > Jason Campbell
January 1st, 2012 at 7:48 pm
ya know who else played well as a rookie? STERLILNG MOORE
January 1st, 2012 at 7:49 pm
647.SharkCatcher Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 7:43 pm
I don’t have much to say ……..but I don’t ever want to hear that stupid ” Code Black” Sh8T in here ever again.
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No point in turning on the fans. The fans are just showing they support a team that didn’t reward them with anything.
The CODE BLACK thing was just a benign, fun thing the fans came up with due to their excitement over a team that eventually let them down.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:49 pm
Jason Campbell sucks…in other news water is wet.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:51 pm
Sigh this will be a l-o-n-g offseason since we have no draft
January 1st, 2012 at 7:53 pm
Take heart Raider faithful. In about 2 hours Rob Ryan will be available for the DC position.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:54 pm
As soon as spangnulo gets a call from the rams he should get a call from Mark davis 5 mins later.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:54 pm
Everyone on here has a right to to pissed. It’s obvious the D has to have a major overhaul. People saying Hue should be fired…listen people, ain’t gonna happen! See ya Chuck B. No need coming to office tomorrow. Yours things will be on curb for you to pick up.
January 1st, 2012 at 7:55 pm
Did anyone forget that it took Gruden 3 years? He went 8-8 twice before they broke through.
Again, he had waytoo many things happen all at once, Mr. Davis dying, Campnelll’s injury, Palmer trade, Dmac out, etc.
Get us a GM, good D coordinator, an offseason for Palmer and the “O”, healthy DmAc next year, a cover linebacker.
Doesn’t take that much to be to 11-5 next year!!
Of Hue makes the same mistakes next ear them he is out. no way we bring Ina a new offensive scheme next year, This offensive played well enought to be n the playoffs.
It was ALL on the “D”
January 1st, 2012 at 7:58 pm
Stablersbeard
Yeah but McClain getsv wired to blockers all the time he doesn’t try to defeat the block and then make the tackle he seems content to occupy a blocker. Doesn’t even physically punish the guy for blocking him. Would love to be in the film room when the new GM evaluates the personel
January 1st, 2012 at 7:58 pm
I like Hue. I feel bad for him. He at least cares….alot.
I want that in a coach.
He made more than a few bad decisions this year, but that defense is the reason we weren’t 12-4 this year.
FOUR FREAKING GAMES the defense choked away.
FIX IT PLEASE.
January 1st, 2012 at 8:00 pm
Um guys,
This was Al’s defense. Al’s players and DC. Hue cost us the Lions game but his offense played as good as I’ve seen in Oakland since 2002. They put up 26 today and didn’t get the ball off a punt once. For all of you talking about Cable, please remember the zone blocking farce that we had before Hue got here. We need a GM, a new DC, LBS and DBS. I just don’t think starting over with a new coach and new philosophies is going to get us better right away. I say give him another year. It has been so much turnover and no stability for almost a decade. It has shown on the field.
January 1st, 2012 at 8:01 pm
673… Truth.
It seems like he thinks his job is to tie up a blocker until the whistle…
January 1st, 2012 at 8:05 pm
Off topic…. Does anyone else think it’s funny that the Fat-arsed Ryan brothers have both performed nice face plants today?
January 1st, 2012 at 8:06 pm
“Twist it all you want.
Cable 8-8
Hue 8-8
Sorry.”
NO other way to look at it…
January 1st, 2012 at 8:08 pm
The Raiders defensively play all 32 teams the same. What in the heck do you need D- Coord. for??? I say 32 teams because they play themselves in practice the same way as all others teams.
I looks at the NYG now directing traffic through that secondary. The linebackers are angled so they do have to cover both sides of the middle because if is well planned out. Do the NYG secondary have the talent in the secondary of the Raiders have.? I don’t thinks so. Do they have the smarts to carry out there assignments and the balls to make a tackle. Yes SIR!!
Romo, I will miss you in the postgame show. You are a true spokes person for the Raiders and if they can’t take it, that tough chewing for them. Thanks for being a Raider supporter!!!!
January 1st, 2012 at 8:13 pm
where was the bump and run receivers have been running free all season in our secondary
our db’s are here because they play bump and run press coverage not this five ten yards off the ball crap
nobody fixed the d all season
ALL SEASON
January 1st, 2012 at 8:13 pm
They manage to find a way to lose. As the weeks turn into months, and into years…
January 1st, 2012 at 8:15 pm
snatching defeat from the jaws of victory
January 1st, 2012 at 8:49 pm
I saw Hues press conference he is right the problem has been there all year if Chuck B knew how to fix it he would have. Our lead protection defense since I don’t know that you could call it a prevent was worse than any defense I have seen the Raiders field.
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:13 pm
I have been a fan of this team since ”real men” like Plunkett, Alzado, Allen, Hendricks, etc. lead the ballclub. Different era, different men, with balls made of ice cream instead of lead…