Players reflect upon lost season
By Steve Corkran
Monday, January 2nd, 2012 at 1:05 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Less than 24 hours ago, Raiders players were putting on their cleats and preparing for a must-win game against the San Diego Chargers. Today, those shoes are being thrown into garbage bags, loaded into vehicles and stored until the offseason workouts begin.
Such is the harsh nature of a season, when one loss brings everything to a screeching halt and sends thoughts of Super Bowl titles in another direction.
“Yeah, it’s definitely tough to swallow,” right guard Cooper Carlisle said Monday. “We didn’t know the exact scenario that would play out, but it turns out if we win that game, we’re preparing for Pittsburgh. Instead, I’m cleaning shoes out of the locker.”
That scene played out throughout the Raiders locker room this morning, as players gathered their belongings, participated in exit interviews and said their good-byes much sooner than they expected.
Strong safety Tyvon Branch said a night’s sleep and some reflecting back on what could have been hasn’t changed his outlook.
“It still hurts,” Branch said. “Same feeling. Ain’t much changed overnight. We still want to keep playing, but we can’t.”
Veteran defensive tackle Richard Seymour said he will let coach Hue Jackson and whoever else is involved in the decision-making process this offseason decide whether changes need to be made in terms of personnel and scheme.
The important thing is, recognizing that the way the Raiders performed this season wasn’t good enough and finding ways to get better play on a week to week basis.
“Obviously, it’s disappointing, for sure,” Seymour said. “We didn’t accomplish our goals, so, t’s disappointing, to say the least. But we never make any excuses. We were inconsistent and that ended up being our Achilles heel at the end of the day.”
Punter Shane Lechler is one of two Raiders who know what it’s like to be on a playoff team around here. Yet, even he and kicker Sebastian Janikowski are nine years removed from that taste.
Lechler said he and his teammates were confident of ending that drought. Now, they have to deal with the pain of coming up short.
“That one hurt, man,” Lechler said. “It’s been a long time, though, since we had anything to play for around here. We just let a great opportunity go.”
Just the same, Lechler said, being in a position to challenge for a playoff spot in the final game of the season counts as progress.
“Yeah, I’ve been out of competition for anything around here in November for the last six years, know what I mean?” Lechler said. “Finally had something to play for, and it’s fun, I’ll say that. But it sucked losing.”
Jackson’s season-ending news conference begins at 2 p.m. Should be interesting to see if he has changed his tune from yesterday, when he used the word “pissed” or “pisses me off” nine times in describing his emotions on the heels of a 38-26 loss to the Chargers.
Jackson spent all season saying he isn’t into pointing fingers, making excuses and singling out players. His comments Sunday broke from that and signaled that major changes are in the offing this offseason.
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January 2nd, 2012 at 1:07 pm
FIRST !!
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:07 pm
GM candidates:
Reggie McKenzie
Scot McCloughan
Tom Gamble
Elliot Wolf
Eric DeCosta (unlikely to leave the Ravens)
Head coach candidates:
Hue Jackson (obviously…)
Jeff Fisher
Gregg Williams (would be very interested to see this one)
Mike Zimmer (another I would love to see)
3-4 defensive coordinator candidates:
Dennis Thurman
Winston Moss
Kevin Greene
Mike Nolan
Dean Pees
4-3 defensive coordinator candidates:
Steve Spagnuolo
Jack Del Rio
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:08 pm
Why hasn’t Bresnahan been fired yet?
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:08 pm
keep Hue as head coach and bring on Del Rio as d-coordinator
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:08 pm
nycraider Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:02 pm
hue just held a press conference to explain that we all misunderstood him. he said he guaranteed dmac will play again by the end of next season
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In a related story, Ickey Woods passed his physical with the Raiders Medical staff and was signed to the practice squad.
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:08 pm
raider trainers just stated that shane lechlar will not punt at the pro bowl due to an elbow…
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:10 pm
and the new GM is….
Matt Millen!
as the Raiders have no draft choices he can’t screw it up!
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:11 pm
‘Veteran defensive tackle Richard Seymour said he will let coach Hue Jackson and whoever else is involved in the decision-making process this offseason decide whether changes need to be made in terms of personnel and scheme.’
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No sh!t Rich… so now not only is Hue the GM but Seymore too??? Do your jobs guys…
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:11 pm
707raiders Says:
Do not resign bush, that guy is fkn slow. No break away speed at all, let him go
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How many BACKUP running backs out there are homerun threats every time they carry the ball? Bush was not supposed to be the every down back. There aren’t many teams (if any other than Dallas) that have someone better than Bush to fill in behind the starter.
The problem is the guy who he backs up. That guy can’t seem to get in a full season. He’s just collecting huge paychecks from the team to pay all that child support.
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:12 pm
Trade DMc for a pair of loafers!
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:13 pm
Fk you Rich.
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Veteran defensive tackle Richard Seymour said he will let coach Hue Jackson and whoever else is involved in the decision-making process this offseason decide whether changes need to be made in terms of personnel and scheme.
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:15 pm
and fk you too brown stain !!
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:15 pm
He has its just not public yet.
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MattHenry Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:08 pm
Why hasn’t Bresnahan been fired yet?
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:16 pm
So Seymour – a player – has decided that Hue – a coach – gets to make all the personnel decisions – something a GM should be doing?
Man, this is one fkd up organization.
Just sell, Mark. Just sell.
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:17 pm
What was p with Corky tweeting that he heard that the entire D staff has been fired…where is that story, Steve?
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:17 pm
FIRE HUE TODAY!
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:18 pm
Hue has been pissed at Bres for the most part of the season we just didn’t know about it until yesterday. Bres prob knew he was gone a month ago or more.
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:18 pm
Hwn, were you there yesterday ?
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:19 pm
I wonder if cork cherry picked who to tell us about and write about guys who cared. Wonder if Routt or T Kelly were feeling the same way.
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:19 pm
What is Seymour suppose to say he answered a question…done. now it is time for the organization to step up and sweep clean this house.
Chuck b-gone
Hue-demoted to o coordinator
Mike Nolan in.
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:19 pm
R8ER MIKE Says:
keep Hue as head coach and bring on Del Rio as d-coordinator
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Yes, I’m sure Del Rio, a former head coach, is looking for the opportunity to be a defensive coordinator under an arrogant head coach who has a history of throwing his players and other coaches under the bus. That sounds a dream destination for ol’ Jack.
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:20 pm
Seymour should just shut his mouth and say “no comment”.
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Elraidmanhattan Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:19 pm
What is Seymour suppose to say
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:21 pm
No sh!t Rich… so now not only is Hue the GM but Seymore too??? Do your jobs guys…
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So Seymour – a player – has decided that Hue – a coach – gets to make all the personnel decisions – something a GM should be doing?
Man, this is one fkd up organization.
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You guys are dense. Seymour was asked about the situation by a journalist. He’s just giving a diplomatic answer. Have you guys never heard an interview with a professional athlete before?
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:21 pm
RaidingTexas Says: January 2nd, 2012 at 1:11 pm707raiders Says:Do not resign bush, that guy is fkn slow. No break away speed at all, let him go—————————-How many BACKUP running backs out there are homerun threats every time they carry the ball? Bush was not supposed to be the every down back. There aren’t many teams (if any other than Dallas) that have someone better than Bush to fill in behind the starter.The problem is the guy who he backs up. That guy can’t seem to get in a full season. He’s just collecting huge paychecks from the team to pay all that child su
He is not worth being tendered, or signed like a number one back
My point is he is m
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:22 pm
if hue knew that bres was a goner, why the ef didnt he send him packing? HE had the power to do that….that alone is reason to fire hue.
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:23 pm
MistaBrown…yup, I was there yesterday! I thought that with the energy of crowd yesterday, and DMAC even coming when he was sick (thanks to Brien) that the players will play with that energy…I guess I was wrong! I was pissed at half time!
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:24 pm
Giving up a 1st rounder for Seymour is now officially a horrible trade for us. We got almost nothing in return but a bunch of meltdowns, false starts, and roughing the passer.
Why that clown is in the pro bowl is a mystery no wonder nobody watches that hot mess!
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:24 pm
Hue is a Bully!
All Talk and ZERO Walk…
this team came out FLAT at HOME for the biggest game of his tenure…
Where has all of his offensive Genius gone?
We’ve been running the same 12 plays on offense for the last 2 months…wow a double reverse, 3 times in one game? that’s original.
How about getting the TE involved? ‘nah, not my kind of offense’..yet we were KILLED yesterday by a TE who runs in slow mo…Hue has got to GO!
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:25 pm
Great prediction by Corkran on the game: wrong team quit!
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:25 pm
I tried to ask B if you were there I didn’t hear back from him…
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Hwnrdr Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:23 pm
MistaBrown…yup, I was there yesterday!
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:26 pm
Pleaase stop it you guys read too much into seymours remark.
I want something done today, heads need to be chopped immediately not like in the past when Al had his organizational meetings after the season and we waited and waited and waited.
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:26 pm
What a disaster.
More than a sad day, but still, it’s a great day to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?!
Win or lose…no other team to be a fan of.
Period.
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:26 pm
I bet Hue won’t wear a clown suit today.
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:26 pm
Its all about GSW.
I just wanna read about Bres getting fired and Seymour being cut! Our defense needs 11 Giordanos, like him or not that guy gives 100 every dam sunday!
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:27 pm
Everyone in my section was asking about that yesterday! Where the hell was the TE play? WHY? Why hasn’t it NOT happen pretty much all year? BTW: Did Boss catch a TD pass from Campbell, Palmer and Lechler?
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:28 pm
Had to ride him till the end you cant blow things up in a playoff run, duh
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Firehue Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:22 pm
if hue knew that bres was a goner, why the ef didnt he send him packing? HE had the power to do that….that alone is reason to fire hue.
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:28 pm
Hwn — I believe that Tweet was someone floating a rumor to Cork, and he dispelling it for the time being.
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:29 pm
i was sure chucky b would be out of a job by now…
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:29 pm
B left my tailgate about 11…seen him once in the stands shaking his head at wtf was going on! Haven’t seen him after…I think he said he left and was pi**ed off as well!
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:30 pm
37.HayesDaze37 Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:28 pm
Hwn — I believe that Tweet was someone floating a rumor to Cork, and he dispelling it for the time being.
Gotcha! Thanks Hayes!
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:30 pm
oh yeah this playoff run the one where the def loses the last important games….
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:31 pm
We signed Boss for Big $ to replace our 31 receiver who was a TE…too big an ego for this roster.
We should have used Boss or Meyers all season long.
I kept thinking Hue was ‘Saving’ his playbook for the late season games, and yet, we got the SAME DANG PLAYS week after week…
Hue is a broken record who spends more time flapping his lips instead of drawing up plays…
Hue’s Got To GO!
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:31 pm
Its weird Boss and Myers get some looks in spurts and then disappear. J Jones was cleared to play and din’t sniff the field. Hue def had a rookie season as a HC but Bres killed us, we scored enough points to win 3 or 4 more games.
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Hwnrdr Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:27 pm
Everyone in my section was asking about that yesterday! Where the hell was the TE play? WHY? Why hasn’t it NOT happen pretty much all year? BTW: Did Boss catch a TD pass from Campbell, Palmer and Lechler?
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:31 pm
^^^#1^^^
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:32 pm
HayesDaze37,
It’s not great being part of raider nation today, no matter how and what you say, it’s a brutal loss and the play was so below NFL play it was sickening.
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:33 pm
What is Hue’s explanation for not getting Boss into the action more often????
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:35 pm
Pi**ed as I am…I will never, NEVER let myself wander astray from The Nation! I think that is what he meant, Dell…I think!
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:35 pm
Unfortunately, Boss may have had his last concussion of his career!
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:35 pm
Hue talks a good game, can’t handle head coaching gig, and no you don’t grow into it, you have the skills or not.
Play calling sucked
I have been a DHB supporter from the start, I still never will understand why he got benched this year along with boss, power has gotten to his head way too much
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:36 pm
I can think of 12 teams I’d rather be a fan of today!
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:37 pm
I was sittin right by B n Dmac we were all pissed at the play calling, defense and game management….
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:37 pm
Come on Beach…you’re better than that! But…
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:37 pm
51.707raiders Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:37 pm
I was sittin right by B n Dmac we were all pissed at the play calling, defense and game management….
You were in 131 right? Yeah, our whole end zone was pissed!!!
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:39 pm
# beach Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:33 pm
RAIDERS LOSE, RAIDERS LOSE, RAIDERS LOSE!!!!RIVERS RULES THE TAIDERS!!!
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:40 pm
Rookie coaches make rookie mistakes,hue made more than his fair share this year, still i bring him back with a new gm, dc, and his own personel…. We sold out all season and hue has a lot to do with that…
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:40 pm
Yup i was in 131
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:40 pm
Hue is a poor man’s Rex Ryan.
A lot of talk. Not a lot of winning.
FIRE HUE TODAY.
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:40 pm
Nobody stopping you bro, do you need a shove ?
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Beach Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:36 pm
I can think of 12 teams I’d rather be a fan of today!
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:41 pm
MistaBrown Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:20 pm
I knew you low life Raiders would lose to my CHARGERS!!!
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:41 pm
Hwnrdr, We better get a competent GM. I can’t take many more seasons like this!
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:41 pm
why isn’t there more of a call to trade DMAC? We can get good value for him now and we need a back that can play at least 14 games a year. Never going to get enough games out of Mcfragile…
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:41 pm
Can’t wait till the firings start and they hire a damn GM. It is going to be weird. Raiders will finally resemble a real professional football team.
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:41 pm
Go to the charges blog b,ych
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:42 pm
Why are you guys griping about Hue and the offense Raiders had over 500 yards yest. Def needs to be addressed. Anybody know type of Def Raheem Morris ran in Tampa.
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:43 pm
# hwnrdr Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:17 pm
Great news from Corky tweeting that he heard that the entire coaching staff has been fired…and they are trying to bring back Cable!!
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:43 pm
Polian is out in Indy. He would make a great pick up for the Raiders.
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:43 pm
# beach Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:36 pm
I can think of 12 teams I’d rather be a fan of today!Like the SEAHAWKS!!
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:44 pm
Lay off Seymour already. I’m sure some reporter started asking him if we were going to a 3-4, and he correctly replied that it would be up to the coaching staff, not him. Nothing wrong with that.
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:44 pm
Palmer will look a lot beter after a full off season, a lot of personel decisons to be made….
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:45 pm
# raidertay Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:42 pm
Why are you guys griping about Hue and the offense Raiders had over 500 yards yest. Def needs to be addressed. Anybody know type of Def Raheem Morris ran in Tampa.
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Raheem Morris would not be a good fit as a DC. He is still too young. Maybe as a DB coach, but not a DC.
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:45 pm
# 707raiders Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:41 pm
This is the charges blog b,ych
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:46 pm
Hue is going to throw everyone and his mother under the bus today to try to save his job.
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:46 pm
Still not a day for me to disavow complete allegiance as a fan, my Raiders friend. It is always a great day to be a Raiders fan, and it aways has been for me. I still wear my colors win or lose.
Terrible things happened this season…and 8-8 — especially the way we went out — is completely unacceptable. This wasn’t even an “OK” season…this 8-8 is a complete flop, by a Playoff-talented team.
Grades??
Coaching staff COLLECTIVELY = F
Hue Jax gets an overall “D-” from me…his innovative O wasn’t basic enough to win games by grinding teams into submission, and his many mistakes in strategy and leadership translated into a loose product on the field. He nearly gets an overall “F” simply because he didn’t take Bresnahan to the woodshed two months ago.
Bresnahan = F…and since I’m giving the grade, it’s an F-
Hue gets the keys one more year…CPalmer is entrenched…MBush should be re-signed, to tag team with DMC once again (nobody’s giving much for DMC now)…Chuck Brez needs to take all personal belongings with him on the way out of the building this week.
And my Playoff money has already paid for my season tix renewal this coming season. In 2012, that prepaid Playoff money will be used for Playoff games in ‘13.
Always the optimist!
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:47 pm
# 707raiders Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:44 pm
Palmer won’t look a lot beter after a full off season, a lot of personel decisons to be made….Bring in Pryor.
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:47 pm
# YoungAmerican Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:21 pm
No sh!t Rich… so now not only is Hue the GM but Seymore too??? Do your jobs guys…
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So Seymour – a player – has decided that Hue – a coach – gets to make all the personnel decisions – something a GM should be doing?
Man, this is one fkd up organization.
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You guys are dense. Seymour was asked about the situation by a journalist. He’s just giving a diplomatic answer. Have you guys never heard an interview with a professional athlete before?
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Too many annoying idiot trolls on this blog dude.
I’m out.
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:48 pm
Dvrick, go jump in the Pacific Ocean and get swallowed by a shark, please!
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:48 pm
You don’t know me from Adam, but Hue is history. Breshnahan is history. The house is going to be cleaned soon and there will be a brighter day in the Raider Nation. Losing will not be tolerated. 8-8 is for losers.
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:49 pm
# R8ER MIKE Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:08 pm
Fire Hue as head coach now and bring back Cable!
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:49 pm
# beach Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:48 pm
Raider fans, go jump in the Pacific Ocean and get swallowed by a shark, please!
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:49 pm
Hue is a nice guy and says the right thigns, but his actions and decisions have made it easier to let him go.
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:50 pm
You people who want Huet gone better know, have a better option than Hue to coach this team??
Slim pickens out there unless they get Fisher, which they won’t get, because he is probably going to St Louis and be given full control.
Getting rid of Huey and bringing in another rookie head coach would be absolutely STUPID!!
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:51 pm
I bet Hue is getting a lot of good advice from the ladies at the nail salon on who to throw under the bus today the presser.
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:51 pm
MistaBrown Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:40 pm
This is the Death of the Raider Nation.
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:51 pm
Why was Boss not more involved?
Progress from DHB.
Standout rookie season of Denarius Moore.
Explosive touches by Ford and Murphy.
Continued development of Reece.
Many early season passes to DMac.
Other teams do try and actually cover tight ends, so they’re not always open.
He also struggled with concussions twice during the season.
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:51 pm
HIRE FISHER!
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:52 pm
Who is going to replace Hue as head coach geniuses?
I’m still waiting on an answer?
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:52 pm
They aint going to hire Fisher!!
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:53 pm
HIRE A GM.
FIREHUBERT!
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:53 pm
Hue will not be let go, unless Mark Davis knows he gets a Cowher or Gruden.
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:54 pm
# M Lonetree Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:12 pm
Trade DMc for a pair of loafers!But no takers on these lousy Raider players.TEBOW MADE THE PLAYOFFS RAIDERS ARE THE JOKE OF THE NFL!!!
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:55 pm
# DKnight007 Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:52 pm
Who is going to replace Hue as head coach geniuses?
I’m still waiting on an answer?CABLE,CABLE,CABLE!!!
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:55 pm
# beach Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:53 pm
Hue will not be let go, unless Mark Davis knows he gets a Cowher or Gruden.
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Exactly and Cowher aint coaching again and Gruden and Fisher are long shots. They need to paid!
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:55 pm
The new GM will bring in his own guy.
No more excuses.
Just Win Baby.
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:56 pm
It’s already been decided. Hue is gone. Chuck is gone. You’ll have to wait and see.
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:56 pm
# dvrick Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:55 pm
# DKnight007 Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:52 pm
Who is going to replace Hue as head coach geniuses?
I’m still waiting on an answer?CABLE,CABLE,CABLE!!!
^^^^^^^^
I knew you were a genius TROLL!! haha
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:57 pm
# beach Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:53 pm
Hue will not be let go, unless Mark Davis knows he gets a Cowher or Gruden.But nobody wants this reject job that’s why we got Hue Jackass!!
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:57 pm
If Al Davis knew was a metrosexual, his ass would have been fired sooner.
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:58 pm
“Knew Hue was a metrosexual…” sorry.
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:58 pm
# DKnight007 Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:52 pm
Who is going to replace Hue as head coach geniuses?
I’m still waiting on an answer?CABLE,CABLE,CABLE!!!
^^^^^^^^
I knew you were a genius TROLL!! hahaBut the Broncos get the last laugh!!Told ya you’d see Tebow in the Playoffs.
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:59 pm
It’s already been decided. Hue is gone. Chuck is gone. You’ll have to wait and see.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:00 pm
# DKnight007 Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:52 pm
They aint going to hire Fisher because he’s a Charger fan!!!
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:00 pm
Oldtown Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:59 pm
It’s already been decided. Hue is gone. Chuck is gone. You’ll have to wait and see.
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Based on what? inside intel?
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:01 pm
Beach Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:36 pm
I can think of 12 teams I’d rather be a fan of today including THE BRONCOS – GO TEBOW!!!!!!
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:01 pm
DKnight007 Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:52 pm
Who is going to replace Hue as head coach geniuses?
I’m still waiting on an answer?
….
Has nothing to do with who we think is the best candidate and everything to do with who the new GM thinks is the best candidate, and will he be given the authority to hire that person.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:01 pm
What if it was in Al’s last will and testament that if Hue did not make the playoffs this year, he would be fired.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:01 pm
I hope Old town is right.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:01 pm
Fisher has already declared what teams he would like to coach for.
Raiders was not on the list…
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:01 pm
The Oakland Raiders.
Where the offseason is always more entertaining than the regular season.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:01 pm
Thec07 Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:00 pm
Oldtown Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:59 pm
It’s already been decided. Hue is gone. Chuck is gone. You’ll have to wait and see.
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Based on what? inside intel?
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He “read” the fiber in a pulled-apart bowel movement.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:02 pm
Thec07 Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:01 pm
Fisher has already declared what teams he would like to coach for.
Raiders was not on the list…
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More to the point, the job is not currently open and won’t be for years.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:02 pm
RaiderDuck:
Based on credible info.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:04 pm
The Raiders were who we thought they were yesterday. I knew they were going to lose and did not bother to watch the game, because I knew it would make me crazy.
The way they played yesterday was a reflection of their character all of this year.
WE CHOKED in almost every game, even the games we won, but in some cases hung on to win, such as:
1) Texans…FB drops a TE in the final minute, we get a gift INT to seal the victory. No Andre Johnson to burn us. Lucky win.
Bears – Same old story….lousy backup QB chokes and we hold on.
2) Denver – We dominate all game and they come back and just come up short in the end.
3) Jets – Sanchez chokes and comes up short of the goal line.
4) Vikings – INT in the end zone deep in the 4th.
5) Chargers -Raiders dominate but the game is saved in the last seconds, the Chargers just run out of time.
6) KC – Two blocked FG’s.
7) Browns – Same old story. Raider domination but still let them come back and challenge at the very end of the game. Win holding on for dear life.
ALL OUR WINS were almost choked up like a giant fur ball. No surprise they choked yesterday. No guts and no D…too many penalties and turnovers. Same old jacked up Raiders…just with more playmakers and big plays.
Maybe Hue with more power is a good thing. These players need to be held accountable!
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:04 pm
MR has two new handles, super.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:04 pm
Let’s just say that Hue’s presser last night went over like a botched nail job.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:04 pm
There isn’t a solid reason our TE’s didn’t catch enough balls. HueJax is innovative and daring…but he also forgets to go back to basics. Power running. Judicious use of TE’s.
As I said months ago…something we need to worry about with HueJax is that he could become a caricature. Another Rex/Rob Ryan kind of blowhard, whose team eventually tunes-out because of all the noise.
HueJax is a highly respected man in the Org, but he hasn’t created the atmosphere conducive to winning that is expected of him. His braggadocio hasn’t furthered the Cause.
That being said, I was disappointed he stopped with the build-a-bully program. The Raiders go nowhere past 8-8, or to the Playoffs, until they learn to bully teams they should dominate. That’s a tall order, and one that HueJax needs help filling.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:05 pm
Oldtown Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:02 pm
RaiderDuck:
Based on credible info.
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From where? Link, please. And don’t tell us that your cousin’s roommate is close personal friends with Mark Davis or Amy Trask or somebody…
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:05 pm
Thec07 Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:01 pm
Fisher has already declared what teams he would like to coach for.
Raiders was not on the list…
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The Raiders still have a head coach. He would be a real azz to say they were on his list before Hue was dismissed. I hope none of the other teams on his list still have employed head coaches.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:05 pm
Can’t…sorry.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:06 pm
Oldtown just made my day.
Just Win Baby.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:06 pm
Corky is another one that should be thrown to the heap pile. I mean this is a “journalist” with 17 years of covering the Raiders, and yet to this date, I haven’t seen a major story attributed to Corky. That’s like going 0 fer 17. However, all week he told us that there was no way the doltz show up to play for “a dead man walking” Turner.
Corky definitely hasn’t seen enough of this Raiders team to realize that these are the players that show up one or two quarters a game, and show up just enough to make yet another stupid penalty.
If the Raiders hadn’t pulled out that miracle blocked punt against KC, we would be looking at 0-5 since the McClain debacle. Not that the “incident” hadn’t anything to do with how the team played, just saying. But according to some observers, the Raiders players actually checked out before the Miami game, and haven’t been seen since. A bunch of frauds and impostors took their place.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:07 pm
Make that three…
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:08 pm
Is Chuck B digging ditches in Antarctica yet?
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:09 pm
Team was 7-4 prior to McClain incident.
1-4 after incident.
The GM that drafted McClain is no longer with us, so problem solved. We just need to cut him.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:09 pm
R.I.P.: 2011 Oakland Raiders.
Now for all you f*cked up Raider Haters, it was probably enjoyable to you. To me , I saw a team that still contended in spite of devastating injuries. Yes, all teams had them but ours were more severe. All speed and skill players hurt. Hue was stuck with an awful defensive coordinator. Fire him. On the subject of Palmer, when a QB has no running game and still throws for 400 yrd, no complaints by me. I feel better now, I vented.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:10 pm
Any Head Coach in the NFL that finishes 1 – 4 down the stretch, with everything to play for, needs to be worried about their job.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:11 pm
ELEVEN GIORDANOS…………..
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:11 pm
dknight,
pay no attention to the fire Hue dummies. It’s garbage and no one in the front office is even considering that.
Hue is already planning for the future, who he’ll hire, who he’ll fire, and Mark Davis is excited to see what Hue can do. Al chose wisely who to entrust the franchise to.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:11 pm
We’re not cutting McClain.
Our next DC will probably put in a 3-4, with McClain as the SILB.
Now if he’s still this mediocre, then maybe we ditch him. But give him a chance at his natural position first.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:11 pm
Oldtown, I have witnessed some stuff posted on this blog to have come from credible sources before the media got it and it happened to be true. So I will wait and see if what you say is real or not.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:12 pm
127, on the mark!
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:14 pm
“Fire Hue” is MR’s way of getting noticed.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:15 pm
Just read this. Don’t know who said it but I like it.
“Show me a team without a pass rush and I will show you some corners that cant cover.”
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:15 pm
Oldtown’s a fraud. He’s not an insider. Notice he interjects his own opinion to compliment his “inside” scoops. Most real insiders just dish the dirt, and usually do it subtly with clues. Oldtown is a Davis worshiper who thinks he found a clever way to bring attention to his cause.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:16 pm
Sully:
You are wrong. Time will tell.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:16 pm
The biggest thing we need is a D-Coordinator who mixes up his schemes enough that opposing QB’s can’t consistently isolate a WR on our MLB.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:17 pm
Oldtown is blowing smoke. Nobody in their right mind would fire Hue after one season. Hue has the right attitude and expects greatness. Injuries, a horrible D coordinator that he was stuck with (along with a roster not suited to any new schemes) compounded by the fact that the culture still needs to be changed. The same problems exist today with the players that have existed the last ten years.
Hue tried to change things, but failed because these players are rotten to the core.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:17 pm
All we got so far is Townsend at 95.7 tweeting yesterday that Bresh will be out. And even that hasn’t been confirmed by anything credible yet.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:18 pm
Oldtown:
You’re a fraud. We already figured it out.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:18 pm
This should get the ball rolling:
Bills fired defensive coordinator George Edwards.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:19 pm
Why does Oregon insist on wearing crazy azz uniforms?
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:19 pm
Agree with Sandusky44….Oldtown interjects his own “angry disappointed fan” vibe alongside his scoop. Sounds fishy. A real insider delivers facts and not opinions at the same time.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:19 pm
Alex what planet are you on, what makes you think Hue has such power? Oh, I forgot you are an expert
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:20 pm
Thank you, slash. And stop calling me Sandusky, a@#hole.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:21 pm
MR you’re not going to have a Sandusky meltdown are you?
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:21 pm
Hue Jackson made Palmer trade. That tells me he has a lot of power. We’ll see if Bresh is canned. If he is, that’s certainly a Hue move, as Bresh was never Hue’s guy. That would tell me Hue’s still coach and acting GM. If Bresh is still here by the end of this week, it’s a good sign Hue’s been stripped of some power. Because there’s no doubt Hue wants Bresh out.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:22 pm
Chuck B’s next stop should be interviewing for a job at Tom Walsh’s bed and breakfast. I hear they’re looking for someone to build an outdoor track and Chuck’s an expert in building things that are easy to run on.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:22 pm
ITA that the culture needs to be changed.
We need a new Team President (although Trask can remain in charge of everything non-football).
We need a new GM and Player-Personnel guy.
We need to show Herrera the door. I don’t know the guy, but nothing typifies the ancient, paranoid mindset of this organization more than him. Al’s gone (RIP). Time his puppet/yes-man got the boot as well.
We need a new DC, picked by the GM and Hue jointly. We need defensive personnel to fit this new DC’s scheme.
We need to end ALL “scholarships,” except those with prohibitive cap hits, who might have to be kept on for a year.
Finally, we need to tell Oakland to break ground on a new stadium by the end of 2012, or we’ll take either AEG or Ed Roski up on their LA offers. SEVENTEEN years we’ve been promised a new stadium, while our crumbling facilities are the worst in the NFL. Enough’s enough. If Oakland can’t come across, that’s their problem.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:23 pm
Hue is a phoney with no power.
Hue is gone because this team quit a month ago.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:24 pm
Elraid
It’s old news, Hue is in charge of this organization for the near future.
Al Davis gave that power to Hue. Who do you think traded for Palmer and Curry? Who was on the phone talking to GMs? Hue was. He said so, and made things happen.
Why on earth would Hue talk about having a larger hand on the organization if he hadn’t already been blessed by both Al and Mark?
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:26 pm
Me have a meltdown? Eh. The day’s young. But I wish you wouldn’t call it a “Sandusky meltdown”. Really. Comparing someone to a serial child rapist because they bash Al Davis on a blog. A little harsh.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:26 pm
Not
For
Long.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:26 pm
MR/Sandusky = Oldtown….by creating a persona even more moronic than himself, he’s trying to get people to like him and to forget that he is the CEO of smallboys.com.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:27 pm
The team quit when McClain got arrested.
Record prior to McClain incident: 7-4
Record after: 1-4.
Al Davis drafted McClain.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:27 pm
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:23 pm
Hue is a phoney with no power.
Hue is gone because this team quit a month ago.
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Of course. That’s why we beat a tough KC team, and kept scrapping and scrapping and scrapping. Because the team quit.
The real Hunter Thompson actually knew something about sports. Follow his example, please.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:27 pm
MR loves it when the Raiders lose.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:28 pm
I’m just going to grab some popcorn and enjoy the show.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:28 pm
Raider Duck, it tells you something about Herrera when the only thing we can positively attribute to him is an incident he had with a reporter. As far as we know, Herrera brings drama to the organization, and little else.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:29 pm
Scrapping and scrapping and scrapping???
Spoken like a true loser.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:29 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:28 pm
Raider Duck, it tells you something about Herrera when the only thing we can positively attribute to him is an incident he had with a reporter. As far as we know, Herrera brings drama to the organization, and little else.
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Exactly. Other organizations worry about punking out our opponents. Herrera worries about punking out unarmed beat reporters (and Kawakami arguably won that confrontation, too).
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:29 pm
I know some in here think Hue is the greatest. They talk of Hue and a new GM making decisions together, rule by committee.
I don’t like it, sounds like a recipe for disaster.
Hire the best GM you can find and let him run the show.
Unlike our last GM, he can always be fired if he doesn’t deliver.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:31 pm
Alex I understand your points, I understand all that and you are on the money with that, but that was right at the height of their momentum, things came crashing down thereafter, actually after the charger win. It imploded after that so i am not sure of the power going forward, I have nothing personal against hue, but i am sure some old school raiders have been talking and strategizing with mark and Amy. Bottom line hue failed.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:32 pm
two cents,
why should Mark Davis hire a GM at the request of angry fans, when he knows you guys will turn on that GM as soon as the team loses 2 straight games?
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:33 pm
raiderduck
just ignore the troll. everyone else does. He’s been spewing same nonsense since yesterday, non-stop.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:34 pm
Twocents Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:29 pm
I know some in here think Hue is the greatest. They talk of Hue and a new GM making decisions together, rule by committee.
I don’t like it, sounds like a recipe for disaster.
Hire the best GM you can find and let him run the show.
Unlike our last GM, he can always be fired if he doesn’t deliver.
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Quality teams always have the GM and coach working together. When Indy was a top NFL team, Polian and Dungy always consulted each other. Ditto Parcells and George Young, Landry and Schramm, even Davis and Madden/Flores back during our peak.
Now, in some organizations the coach has the final say, and in some it’s the GM. But it’s always a collaboration.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:35 pm
Hue is not a good head coach.
Anyone who knows football and has watched this team has come to the conclusion that it is a poorly coached team on both sides of the ball.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:35 pm
Face it Tom Cable should had never gotten fired! At least he knew how to use Tight Ends, unlike Bootyskin Jackson, second I woould rather have Al Saunders as the HC, it’s funny how Hue Jackson is asking for more control of the team, Really Hue? Even Rich Gannon said yesterday that this moron doesn’t have enough time, talking about Palmer and him. This was a wasted year, this team needs a Reality Check, Shame on all the dead waste on this team.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:35 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
January 1st, 2012 at 8:28 pm
Typical B…K man when the evidence is right in front of him that he’s to blame he throws everyone else under the bus.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:35 pm
El,
after the Charger win we beat the Bears and Vikings.
Our D kept giving up 27 points per game, and eventually you’re just not going to score 30 and win.
We lost to the Dolphins, Packers, Lions, and Chargers with our D continuing to suck.
So we fix the D. It’s simple, no need to panic.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:36 pm
I would never say B….K man. I would just say black man. So that’s how you know it’s a clone.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:37 pm
Sully, I don’t think Davis is going to hire a GM because of angry fans. He is going to hire one because the franchise needs one. If he hires a loser, yes I’ll be pissed. But I’m hoping it’s McKenzie and I’m hoping he will be great.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:38 pm
# alex7 Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:33 pm
raiderduck
just ignore me. everyone else does.I’ve been spewing same nonsense since yesterday, non-stop.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:38 pm
The idiot cloning my screen name is so racist he thinks “black” is a bad word. lmao
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:38 pm
Palmer said Hue had too much on his plate.
Translation: Hue was over his head.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:39 pm
# Sullivan44 Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:15 pm
#alex7 is a fraud. He’s not an insider. Notice he interjects his own opinion to compliment his “inside” scoops. Most real insiders just dish the dirt, and usually do it subtly with clues. #alex7 is a Davis worshiper who thinks he found a clever way to bring attention to his cause.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:39 pm
two cents,
We lose 2 straight games on McKenzie’s watch, you’ll be calling for his head. I hope Mark is smart enough not to appease fans like you. It’s a bottomless pit.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:39 pm
Hue will have a few off-seasons to bring in legit coaches, trim the roster of dumb “athletes”, run a few more drafts, and see what happens.
Can’t be worse than the 2003-2008 non-Hue stretch.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:40 pm
EyeOnNFL Eye on Football
Our @ClarkJudgeCBS reports Chargers could keep Norv, AJ Smith : http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/6384866/34159492
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:40 pm
yeah, Hue was over in the D meetings trying to figure out what the fock was going on.
He’ll get an opportunity to fix that now.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:41 pm
# Sullivan44 Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:36 pm
I would never say black man. I would just say b…k man. So that’s how you know it’s not a clone.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:41 pm
Alex I hear you, but i can’t imagine a GM coming in with a coach in place, this is the first time ever that we can put a new regime together, don’t you think that the GM/president should have ultimate power?
Personally I would love mayock here.
Let him decide on hue.
And, Alex I think that hue has trouble wearing all the hats on Sunday, I said it before al Saunders should have been calling plays, hue suffers a bit from meglomania.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:42 pm
DKnight007 Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:52 pm
Who is going to replace Hue as head coach geniuses?
I’m still waiting on an answer?
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David Shaw
RaiderDuck Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:22 pm
Finally, we need to tell Oakland to break ground on a new stadium by the end of 2012, or we’ll take either AEG or Ed Roski up on their LA offers. SEVENTEEN years we’ve been promised a new stadium, while our crumbling facilities are the worst in the NFL. Enough’s enough. If Oakland can’t come across, that’s their problem.
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Any hate on Oakland is a hate on the Raiders. STFU
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:42 pm
I like when news media reports something COULD happen.
The Colts COULD draft Luck.
The Colts COULD pass on Luck.
Norv COULD stay.
Norv COULD be let go.
yup.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:42 pm
Alex,
Dvrick is replacing the name of someone I criticized with your name. Scroll up and you can see I directed that same comment to Oldtown. Just a heads up.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:43 pm
# Sullivan44 Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:38 pm
Some idiot knows I’m cloning my screen name,I’m so racist I know “black” is a bad word. lmao
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:43 pm
ATTENTION EVERYONE
Dvrick is quoting people and changing the names of people their addressing, to stir up people who typically agree with each other.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:44 pm
RaiderDuck, I like the idea of a GM who knows what he wants and carries out that plan. Now it is possible that the new GM will think that Hue is the next Bill Walsh. But I doubt it.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:44 pm
El
many GMs don’t mind if a coach stays from the previous regime.
Here’s why: It gives that GM a couple of “free” seasons to evaluate in a win-win scenario. If coach wins, everything’s fine. If coach loses, GM gets to bring in his own coach.
Extends his time available, and that’s always a good thing to personnel people.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:44 pm
# Sullivan44 Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:42 pm
I like when news media reports something COULD happen.
The Colts COULD draft Luck.
The Colts COULD pass on Luck.
Norv COULD stay.
Norv COULD be let go.
yup.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:45 pm
“We didn’t accomplish our goals, so, t’s disappointing, to say the least. But we never make any excuses. We were inconsistent and that ended up being our Achilles heel at the end of the day.”
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I couldn’t care less if they “don’t make any excuses”. Blah blah blah.
Seymour is wrong though. They were consistent. Consistently sucked.
Sure, they had a few moments like when they held Detroit to 14 pts. for awhile and when they kept KC down for most of the game, but when it really counted…they were very consistent. You could ALWAYS count on that defense to choke when it mattered most.
Raider defenses of the past were never statistically great, but they made plays when it counted for the most part.
Alex is right. It’s simple. Fix the D and everything is fine.
Carson threw for 417 damn yards yesterday and the pick he had was not his fault. He did his darndest.
He is NOT the problem.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:45 pm
after watching the game I saw Lito was a liability against Floyd. Lito was overmatched and the much taller Floyd just kept out jumping him.
When SD was at the 1/2 yd the first play–quick slant to Floyd against Lito. Boom, 15-20 yd gain.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:45 pm
That’s all the 24 hr. media is. Speculation and opinion. About 1% of it is actual news. And that news is mindless stuff, like a cat being stuck in a tree. Of course there is real news out there but they don’t want us thinking about it. They want to keep us spending that money.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:45 pm
# Sullivan44 Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:43 pm
ATTENTION EVERYONE
#alex7 is quoting people and changing the names of people their addressing, to stir up people who typically don’t agree with each other.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:45 pm
Great news! Mendenhall has a blown ACL and is out for Saturday’s game at the O… Oh yeah. I forgot. Hue couldn’t teach the Raiders to stay onsides.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:47 pm
The type of power that Harbaugh was given in SF (GM was brought in AFTERWARDS and told to work together with Harbaugh) is what Hue’s situation in Oakland is like.
The GM brought in will know Hue is hands-on with coaching hires/fires, the draft, and roster management.
It’s what Al promised Hue, and Mark isn’t going to override that.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:47 pm
The Steelers would have bent us over and violated us, in our own house, even without Rashard. In a way I’m kind of glad we didn’t make the playoffs. We’re not ready. Would have been neat to sneak in, but it wouldn’t have been fun to watch.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:47 pm
# Sullivan44 Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:42 pm
Alex,
I criticized you because you are stupid. Scroll up and you can see I directed that same comment to Theo7. Just grow up.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:47 pm
3-4 positions of need:
0-tech NT – Aubrayo Franklin, Paul Soliai, Brandon McKinney in FA; Alameda Ta’amu in the draft
LB – ILB Barrett Ruud, Dan Connor, Stewart Bradley, Rocky McIntosh, OLB Jarrett Johnson, Erik Walden, Manny Lawson in FA; ILB Audie Cole, Adrien Cole, Tank Carder, OLB Brandon Lindsay in the draft
Front seven would include Seymour, Houston, and Bryant at DE with McClain and Curry at ILB and Wimbley at SLB. Shaughnessy should be traded if the DC doesn’t think he can convert to OLB. Tommy Kelly would be trade bait as well. The key here is getting a true NT and a blindside pass-rusher who can consistently make plays.
4-3 positions of need:
DT – Red Bryant, Aubrayo Frankin, Brandon McKinney in FA; Alameda Ta’amu, Marcus Forston, Mike Martin, Tydreke Powell in the draft
RDE – Mario Williams, Cliff Avril in FA.
LB – MLB Barrett Ruud, Dan Connor, Stewart Bradley, Stephen Tulloch, WLB Manny Lawson, DeAndre Levy in free agency; MLB Audie Cole, WLB Nigel Bradham, Keenan Robinson in the draft.
Front seven should include Lamar Houston at his natural 3-tech DT position and Shaughnessy and Bryant battling for the starting LDE spot. A 1-tech gap-plugging DT and playmaking RDE would round out this group nicely. Between Tommy Kelly and Richard Seymour one needs to go – and Seymour has more value and a nearly untradeable contract. Ruud or Connor would be ideal at MLB since McClain doesn’t have the range or the ability to shed blocks. Manny Lawson or Nigel Bradham could be good fits at WLB if Aaron Curry doesn’t come back.
The Raiders would also be remiss to ignore the secondary if they have the opportunity to improve it. CB Cortland Finnegan is on his way out in Tennessee, and Michael Griffin or Tanard Jackson could provide help at FS if the Raiders can get out from under Michael Huff’s terrible contract.
Key FA to retain: Tyvon Branch, Desmond Bryant.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:48 pm
I don’t get a lo of the comments here LET’S FIRE HUE LET’S TRADE DMAC……..this team is just like the texans a few years back a real good team that kept goin 8-8 look at them now if ther qb had not went down they would be the #1seed.
We need a change on defense that’s for sure but remember this was ALS defense the same one that has choked for years.we will change some personel and the scheme and hopefully that will get us wher we need to be.
As far as hue goes that’s his offense out ther and for the past two years has been pretty damn good. Do you guys even remember 2-3 years ago when we could barely get into field goal range let alone score a touchdown! This team hasn’t played as a whole unit ALL season and our best weapon( who some of you want to get rid of) was hurt half the season. Yeah he gets injured but look at Adrian peaterson would you get rid of him you probably would and thank god your not running this team we’d really be screwed!!!!
HUE IF YOU READ THIS KEEP IT UP WITH THE PASSING GAME IT’S AWSOME BUT THIS TEAM IS A BEAST AT RUNNING QUIT GOING AWAY FROM IT THAT HAS KILLED US AND COST US THE GAME THIS WEEKEND……….RUN RUN RUN ONCE A TEAMS BEAT DOWN PASS ALL OVER THEM OR SAVE ALL THE PASSING FOR WHEN WE HAVE TO
Next year nation we will be discussing how we will be doing in the playoffs…… Defense permitting of course
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:48 pm
Bresh should’ve tried putting DVD out there. Hell, it’s the season! Who knows maybe DVD plays well, makes a couple plays.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:48 pm
190.blackbeard43 Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:45 pm
after watching the game I saw Lito was a liability against Floyd. Lito was overmatched and the much taller Floyd just kept out jumping him.
When SD was at the 1/2 yd the first play–quick slant to Floyd against Lito. Boom, 15-20 yd gain.
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Yes, and those are the plays Hue hates the most. He mentioned it in the presser. The same happened against Detroit. You could read Hues lips when it turned to Bresnahan and said “What the f*** was that?”
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:49 pm
El.
many GMs don’t mind if a coach stays from the previous regime.
Here’s why: It gives that GM a couple of “free” seasons to evaluate in a win-win scenario. If coach wins, everything’s fine. If coach loses, GM gets to bring in his own coach.
Extends his time available, and that’s always a good thing to personnel people.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:49 pm
My own personal defensive Raider of the year is Matt Giordano. He’s made a presence in every game.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:49 pm
# Sullivan44 Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:47 pm
The Steelers would have bent us over and violated us, in our own house just like I like to do, even without Rashard. In a way I’m glad we didn’t make the playoffs. We’re a joke. Would have been neat to sneak in, but it wouldn’t have been fun to watch.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:49 pm
“I’m going take a stronger hand in this whole team, this whole organization,”
Hue isn’t ASKING for more authority, he’s already been given that authority.
Just letting the press know he’s going to be making changes.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:49 pm
R8derdiehard Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:48 pm
I am stupid.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:50 pm
Freezetag168 Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:42 pm
Any hate on Oakland is a hate on the Raiders. STFU
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Whaaaaah. That ancient stadium is the joke of the NFL. Al was promised a new one back in 1995, when he moved back to Oakland. Through three separate Presidential Administrations, Oakland just keeps blowing us off and delaying and stalling. Enough. If they can’t get off their cheap, lazy butts and get a new stadium going, they don’t deserve an NFL team.
Notice also that the A’s got similarly tired of waiting, and are relocating to San Jose.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:52 pm
Gio is the type of player Hue will bring in more of. Not an uber-athlete, but smart, around the ball, hustles, and CARES.
Those guys don’t even have to start, but having them on the D side will be huge for leadership and work-ethic.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:52 pm
# Sullivan44 Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:49 pm
My own personal defensive Raider of the year is Tom Cable. He’s made a presence in every game.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:53 pm
Alex we shall see, at this point Hue is humbled and that may be a good thing in the long run.
I still want Mike Nolan as d coordinator, he has integrity and demands the best from his players.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:53 pm
Bills fired their DC why do we still have ours?
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:54 pm
John Herrera is a better DC than Chuck Bresnehan.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:54 pm
198 is dead on.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:55 pm
Yes there are some head coaches that are so successful that the GM is just an assistant. Is Hue really in that category?
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:55 pm
Yeah, Raiders need out of that dump stadium area. Ugly, boring, traffic mess, out-dated stadium.
You don’t think a free-agent picking between Oakland and Dallas will feel different about their tours to each?
Dallas: “You see, we put money into our team from every angle, we take care of the product.”
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:57 pm
Can we trade John Herrera and Chuck for draft picks?
I’m sure Jerry Jones could use a new boot licker and Chucky can hang with Rob Ryan.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:57 pm
LT DAN Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:53 pm
Bills fired their DC why do we still have ours?
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THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How on Earth is Chuck Bresnehan still employed in the NFL?
From here on out, I have no negative comments about Chuck Bresnehan. I now consider him an inspiration. If HE can be employed in the NFL, so can I.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:57 pm
LT Dan, let’s keep watching. It’s getting interesting. Townsend at 95.7 tweets yesterday that he hears Bresh is out. Bresh still here. Who did Townsend get that from? I’m guessing Hue is trying to get rid of Bresh. Whether or not he does will give a huge hint as to how much power he still has. I think if Bresh is here by the end of the week, it would have been decided that Hue is losing some power. But if Bresh is gone, sounds to me like Hue’s still the man. IT’s all watch and see at this point. Interesting. First off season without Al in most of our lifetimes.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:58 pm
Alex7 Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:55 pm
Yeah, Raiders need out of that dump stadium area. Ugly, boring, traffic mess, out-dated stadium.
You don’t think a free-agent picking between Oakland and Dallas will feel different about their tours to each?
Dallas: “You see, we put money into our team from every angle, we take care of the product.”
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Exactly. Imagine the Raiders here, instead of that dumpy ruin in Oakland:
http://www.losangelesfootballstadium.com/
The great part is, Roski won’t even charge us for it. He just wants 30% of the team in exchange. That’s a lot, but with a modern stadium, the value of the Raiders goes up, and by a lot MORE than that 30%.
It’s a win-win. Again, if Oakland can’t get its act together, it shouldn’t be our problem.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:58 pm
twocents
Al believes Hue is in that category, and gave him said power.
Really, that’s all that matters. Al already gave him the power. He’s 8-8 as a rookie coach. That’s a good start.
And that’s WITHOUT being able to bring in his own coaches and players for a full season.
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:59 pm
First season without Al for me. I live in htown get all my info from this site. Been watching NFL channel for some breaking news….
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:59 pm
Back when the owners paid for their own stadiums, you had those donut shaped, multi purpose stadiums. Nice and cheap. Now that the tax payers foot the bill, you have these uber galactic amusement parks. #socialism for the rich
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:01 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:59 pm
Back when the owners paid for their own stadiums, you had those donut shaped, multi purpose stadiums. Nice and cheap. Now that the tax payers foot the bill, you have these uber galactic amusement parks. #socialism for the rich
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That’s what I like about the stadium I linked to. The beleaguered California taxpayers won’t have to fork over a bunch more money.
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:01 pm
Again, Mark Davis is being guided by Ken Herock and Ron Wolf and maybe Madden. If they decide that Hue is not the man, he is gone. This is getting interesting.
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:03 pm
Getting ready to watch Hue Jackson press conference.
See what kind of bullsh!t he’s talking today.
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:03 pm
I’d rather stay in our ghetto a$$ stadium than move to a different city with a new stadium this is the OAKLAND RAIDERS let’s keep it that way plus the collosium kinda has that were all at a legged party feel to it
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:03 pm
Alex7, Al Davis never gave power to anyone.
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:04 pm
no twocents. Al Davis made it clear he wanted Hue in charge. No way is Mark or Madden going against that before Hue even gets started with an off-season.
Nothing interesting there, at all.
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:05 pm
Raider duck
Eveything you have said on here today has been spot on. But I cant stand the thought of the LA Raiders again. I grew up with the Oakland Raiders and would sit on a pizza box on asphalt and watch them play then to have them move.
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:06 pm
Wasbanned what channel you watching it on?
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:07 pm
Actually, I should correct myself, I think the way it used to work is that stadiums were paid for by tax payers back in the day, but they decided to build those boring, donut shaped stadiums, multi purpose, for football and baseball, because that was the cheapest route to go for their constituents, the tax payers. That’s why stadiums had government type names, named liked parks, or after people. But at some point the sports owners started getting greedy and tenacious, and started threatening to leave if the same tax payers didn’t give them these neo amusement parks with all kinds of ways for the owners to make money outside of sports. And thus we have modern day sports stadium politics.
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:07 pm
Alex7, are you saying that Al knew he was dying and passed the franchise Hue? Are you serious?
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:08 pm
DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:05 pm
Raider duck
Eveything you have said on here today has been spot on. But I cant stand the thought of the LA Raiders again. I grew up with the Oakland Raiders and would sit on a pizza box on asphalt and watch them play then to have them move.
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Thanks! I would prefer they stay in Oakland, too. But that decrepit relic of a stadium has GOT to go, and the city has been completely uncooperative in this. Sooner or later, something has to give.
Anyway, I’m off to watch the Ducks beat up on Wisconsin. Later, everyone!
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:08 pm
Twocents, it’s old news.
from SI:
“Hue Jackson is, for all purposes, in control of one of the NFL’s 32 franchises.
“I’m not going to say I’m going to do it alone, but I think I’m going to be the person that says ‘Hey, let’s make sure we take a peek at these things to make sure we’re strengthening our team,’” Jackson said
If a general manager is eventually brought in — a move that will have to happen, but not necessarily right away – it will surely be with Jackson’s input.”
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/ann_killion/10/13/Jackson/index.html#ixzz1iLEWzW9D
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:09 pm
Crap bills named new DC already Wannstadt…We are still waiting to cut ties with …..?
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:09 pm
You’d better get used to Palmer throwing for 300-400 yards and losing games. That has been his career for the most part. Palmer can easily give the Raiders another 8-8 next season.
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:11 pm
yes twocents.
It’s been reported. WHY ON EARTH WOULD AL be teaching Hue about general manager responsibilities?
Al Davis “already taught me how to do those things,” Jackson said. “We spent countless hours talking about the things that had to be done&how to do them. I’m very well versed in how to do those things&feel very comfortable doing those things. “I’ve done them every week with his approval. I’ll continue to do them with the approval of Mark &anyone else I need to talk to.”
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:12 pm
zopi, is that why Palmer has more playoff appearances than the Raiders the last 9 years?
nerd. 400 yards is a GOOD thing. The D holding an opponent to under 28 would be a nice pairing.
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:12 pm
I’m pretty sure that I read that in Hue’s contract he will report directly to Mark Davis. I’m not sure how that translates to being in charge of the RAIDERS organization.
Read that on nfl.com this morning.
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:13 pm
Offense:
Continuity is essential here. Carson Palmer needs a full offseason. Terrell Pryor needs to absorb as much knowledge from CP as possible if he’s ever going to be a legitimate NFL QB. DHB, Denarius Moore, and Jacoby Ford need to continue to grow in the offense.
Positions of need:
OL – Wisniewski needs to take over at C, and Stephon Heyer should be resigned to start at LG. Raiders need to find long-term solutions at RG and RT. If Bruce Campbell and Joe Barksdale can’t step up at either position? OT Demetrius Bell, OG Evan Mathis are options in FA; OT Alex Hurst and Jeff Allen, OG Lucas Nix in the draft.
RB – The Raiders need to see what they can get for Darren McFadden in a trade. If any team offers a 2nd round pick or higher, the Raiders absolutely need to jump on it. They need to find players at RB who are more reliable since the team struggles when the running game stalls. If Michael Bush can’t be retained, Mike Tolbert would be a suitable replacement. If the Raiders can manage to get a 2nd round pick, Doug Martin, Ryan Wilson, and Chris Polk are all consistent, versatile players with lots of tread left on the tires. Cyrus Gray and Marc Tyler are also options between the 4th and 7th rounds.
Veteran Backup QB – Chris Redman, Josh Johnson, Shaun Hill and Chad Henne are all upgrades over Kyle Boller.
Key FAs to retain: FB Marcel Reece, OL Stephon Heyer. Raiders should also make a competitive offer to RB Michael Bush, and try to keep C Samson Satele for depth.
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:14 pm
Cya Nation time to go watch my daughters j5 soccer game! GO Raiders
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:14 pm
Raiders For Life
you’re right. Just remember Mark has little regard for the hiring and firing side of football.
So if you “report directly” to a boss that doesn’t care much about personnel stuff, guess who gets to make the decisions?
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:14 pm
alex7 Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:11 pm
yes twocents.
It’s been reported. WHY ON EARTH WOULD AL be teaching Hue about general manager responsibilities?
Al Davis “already taught me how to do those things,” Jackson said. “We spent countless hours talking about the things that had to be done&how to do them. I’m very well versed in how to do those things&feel very comfortable doing those things. “I’ve done them every week with his approval. I’ll continue to do them with the approval of Mark &anyone else I need to talk to.”
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Guess he never taught Hue how to fire a coach though. Something that Al will always be the very best at.
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:15 pm
Hue Jackson… I think I will be part of the process in bringing in a GM…
Just now..
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:15 pm
Hue doesn’t know if he has the power to make coaching changes. Says that is still up in the air.
Says if mark brings in a GM that wants his own coach then so be it. Says that is entirely up to Mark.
Says he hopes to be involved in GM search but doesn’t know if Mark will seek his input or not.
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:16 pm
http://forums.contracostatimes.com/topic/hue-jackson-more-powerful-after-ad
Al prepared Hue for GM responsibilities.
“Al Davis “already taught me how to do those things,” Jackson said. “We spent countless hours talking about the things that had to be done&how to do them. I’m very well versed in how to do those things&feel very comfortable doing those things. “I’ve done them every week with his approval. I’ll CONTINUE to do them with the approval of Mark &anyone else I need to talk to.”
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:17 pm
Alex7, I don’t mean to be rude but Ann Killion, really?
Hue does not own the Raiders and he can be fired at any time.
I can understand you being a fan of Hue Jackson but you have to face reality.
When Al hired Hue, how many options did he have?
Was there any other well established coach that wanted the job?
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:18 pm
I was honestly hoping to hear…. Bresnahans been released ..
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:20 pm
Hue says this is not a dumb football team…
I have to question his judgement on this.
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:20 pm
twocents
those quotes were found in plenty of press releases. Killion just happened to be high on the Google list.
The quotes don’t change.
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:21 pm
You guys that want Hue fired right now understand that their will be people calling for the next coach to be fired if he doesn’t go better than 8/8….? …better have someone lined up that’s a better ( credible) coach before you fire this one… Otherwise we’re spinning our wheels like we have for decades….
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:22 pm
Alex7 post reminds me of an old Chuck Berry line. “I was campaign shouting like a southern diplomat”
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:22 pm
Pretty Rick Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 11:40 am
Seymour Bush,,
If you’re gona quote me then use my whole analysis instead of 1 line out of 100.
I said what I liked as well as disliked about HueJax. Are you going to judge a season by the last 5 games or the entire 16 games? I’m just as critical of Hue as anyone but let’s not be foolish,,the team is on the come up and they just need to learn how to finish,,,that’s where the defense comes in….
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Sorry Pretty Rick, I did not mean to take you out of context. Please accept my apologies. However, I completely disagree that this is a defense only problem. I think we gave up a 106 yard TD on a kick off return. Janikowsky kicked 4 FG’s because we couldn’t score TD’s. And yes, you do judge your team on how it finishes games and how it finishes the season. Especially since we were in the hunt. As I have said in here a few times, you are either getting better, or you are getting worse. I cannot fathom how anyone can argue going 1-4 down the stretch is getting better.
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:22 pm
and twocents
honestly, honestly, if Al prepared Hue to have a strong hand in the franchise, do you REALLY think Mark would over-rule that before the first off-season?
That’d be a slap in the face of the old man’s final wishes.
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:24 pm
Twocents Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:22 pm
Alex7 post reminds me of an old Chuck Berry line. “I was campaign shouting like a southern diplomat”
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Sorry Alex7 but you were saying some pretty silly things in here last night. A “top ten” offense is actually a top 33% offense. That ain’t that good.
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:25 pm
LOL! Hue doesn’t even have the power to fire his DC…
No wonder he was pissed and wanting more power in the organization.
Mark Davis was given same authority as Al after Al’s passing.
Apparently Al’s death hasn’t really changed anything at all with this organization.
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:25 pm
You could get God to coach this team and there would be a bunch in here calling for his head …. Same with the Qb… Some are gonna like Palmer…some are gonna hate him… Me?.. I like the Palmer trade… But I understand the jury’s still out …. Boller was not an exceptable option… Palmer was not the reason the Raiders didn’t win the west….
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:26 pm
alex7 Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:22 pm
and twocents
honestly, honestly, if Al prepared Hue to have a strong hand in the franchise, do you REALLY think Mark would over-rule that before the first off-season?
That’d be a slap in the face of the old man’s final wishes.
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There is NO WAY the old man would have brought Jackson back after the last five games. Absolutely NO WAY.
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:27 pm
eitancramer @PGutierrezCSN it was like watching 11 Stuart Schweigerts take the field #badDefense
19 hours ago
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That, pretty much sums up the steaming pile of horse manure, Huebert and Chuck B. tried to pass off as an NFL defense yesterday..Utterly pathetic
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:28 pm
Twocents Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:22 pm
Alex7 post reminds me of an old Chuck Berry line. “I was campaign shouting like a southern diplomat”
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hahah. One of the great lines in rock and roll history.
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:29 pm
Seymour,
you know it’s normal to NOT score TDs every time you’re in the red zone, right? 2 TDs, 2 FGs, 4 red zone trips. 2 long FGs. 1 punt. 26 points, 9th most in the NFL that day. No running game. Heck of a day for an offense.
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:29 pm
I don’t know if I’ve even seen a defense that can’t make at least 1 stop….until this season… Worst Raided D I’ve even seen…. Been going to Raider games since 1970…
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:29 pm
“Nadine, honey is that you?”
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:30 pm
lol Seymour
yet he brought Gruden back after TWO 8-8 seasons? Clown.
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:31 pm
98 yards.
99.5 yards.
Buffalo 5 TDs in 5 drives.
that’s all that needs to be fixed.
Quit making it complicated.
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:31 pm
wasbanned Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:15 pm
Hue doesn’t know if he has the power to make coaching changes. Says that is still up in the air.
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Here I can definitively answer that for you Hue. NO, you do not have authority to do anything right now, except get your sh** while we evaluate the season.
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:32 pm
Al was the master at firing Head Coaches, because he was so dumb at picking them!!!
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:32 pm
Hiring Chuk Bresh cost us the season.
Firing Rod Woodson would be a huge mistake.
Bring in some Professional DBs, not the bunch of amateur projects they have around here.
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:33 pm
Fingers, I’ve been saying that for weeks. Definitely the worst defense in Raider history.
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:35 pm
Chuck Berry could be, at times, quite the assh0le, but after being screwed over by the state, who can blame him?
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:35 pm
…it was like watching 11 Stuart Schweigerts take the field …
LOL! and yet, Id rather have Stu at FS than Slowlando at MLB…
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:36 pm
alex7 Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:30 pm
lol Seymour
yet he brought Gruden back after TWO 8-8 seasons? Clown.
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The second 8-8 season Gruden went 3-2 down the stretch to save his job. If you remember, which you obviously don’t, The Raiders went into Arrowhead and won in OT which by all accounts saved Grudens job. If Gruden had lost that game and gone 2-3 down the stretch he would have been gone. Which is exactly my point. Thank you for making it for me. You can go now.
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:36 pm
Routt… He couldn’t cover a pizzant with a blanket…. Al really screwed up with that a huge contract….. Somebody said Routt was at least average… Bs.. 17 penalties isn’t average… It’s F’n horrible ..
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:36 pm
Spags for DC
Saunders for OC
FIRE Barns Today!! how many games did his stupid a$$ cost us?
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:36 pm
Beach.. Then you’ve been correct ..
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:37 pm
Go Raiders!
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:38 pm
And where the hell are all the Routt lovers citing the Stats Inc numbers as proof his amateur azz was a top corner?
Dont care what Stats Inc publishes this year, they are a bunch of bums just like Routt.
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:38 pm
Twocents Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:35 pm
Chuck Berry could be, at times, quite the assh0le, but after being screwed over by the state, who can blame him?
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When Chuck walked in to do a show, he would walk over to the house manager and demand $10G in cash. For showing up. That was because too many times, he played a 2 hour set had fans swinging from the rafters, went in after to get his pay and the promoters had left with all the receipts. That would make you pretty bitter as well.
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:39 pm
R8ER MIKE Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 1:08 pm
keep Hue as head coach and bring on Del Rio as d-coordinator
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Might not be a bad Idea
spagnoulo
dean pees
mike nolan
winston moss
our own Rod woodson
my candidates in that order
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:40 pm
Routt, like Huff, put together a solid contract year amid several years of mediocrity.
He’s not a flat-out terrible corner. Just not a #1 corner worth $10 million a year.
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:41 pm
261.fingers Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:29 pm
I don’t know if I’ve even seen a defense that can’t make at least 1 stop….until this season… Worst Raided D I’ve even seen…. Been going to Raider games since 1970…
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Only been a fan since ‘80 but, without a doubt the worst D since then. You would be hard pressed to find another defense from any team that gave as many yards, late game leads, points, first downs by penalty & redzone TD:FG ratio. Absolutely Awful.
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:42 pm
RB – The Raiders need to see what they can get for Darren McFadden in a trade. If any team offers a 2nd round pick or higher, the Raiders absolutely need to jump on it. They need to find players at RB who are more reliable since the team struggles when the running game stalls. If Michael Bush can’t be retained, Mike Tolbert would be a suitable replacement. If the Raiders can manage to get a 2nd round pick, Doug Martin, Ryan Wilson, and Chris Polk are all consistent, versatile players with lots of tread left on the tires. Cyrus Gray and Marc Tyler are also options between the 4th and 7th rounds.
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As someone stated before C Woodson had bad feet but recovered and has a pretty good career.
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:43 pm
You have to take Routts hands and tape all the fingers together so he can’t grab recievers. It’s not like you are losing a ton of INT’s by doing that. Jackson said he tried everything. He didn’t try that.
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:45 pm
The Warriors are garbage, too. Oakland needs to be lifted of its responsibilities of pro sports. Oakland is history, period!
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:45 pm
alex7 Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:29 pm
Seymour,
you know it’s normal to NOT score TDs every time you’re in the red zone, right? 2 TDs, 2 FGs, 4 red zone trips. 2 long FGs. 1 punt. 26 points, 9th most in the NFL that day. No running game. Heck of a day for an offense.
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When you don’t take shots at the end zone you are not going to score TD’s. He took two shots one to DHB, one to Boss. He scored TD’s. How many other times did he even try? How’s about the last drive in the KC game? Never took a shot. Which is another reason he had no run game. Conservative and predictable. You can now go back to google Alex7.
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:45 pm
As someone stated before C Woodson had bad feet but recovered and has a pretty good career.
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In Charles Woodson’s first four seasons, he started every game but one.
How many games has McFadden been limited or inactive?
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:46 pm
You can’t make a quality grade on our D with Bed and Breakfast Part 2 running the show….
on one play yesterday I saw Houston dropping back to cover Gates……A DL covering a Pro Bowl TE…
ARE YOU F*CKN KIDDING ME
Bring in Spags ASAP he is a 4-3 Guru, keep Wauffe..
and the rest.
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:46 pm
You better hope McFaddens foot heals…. Because nobody’s gonna trade any picks for an RB that just missed 9 games..would you buy a racing horse with a broken leg?.. … Maybe some of us would…
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:48 pm
245.alex7 Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:16 pm
http://forums.contracostatimes.com/topic/hue-jackson-more-powerful-after-ad
Al prepared Hue for GM responsibilities.
“Al Davis “already taught me how to do those things,” Jackson said. “We spent countless hours talking about the things that had to be done&how to do them. I’m very well versed in how to do those things&feel very comfortable doing those things. “I’ve done them every week with his approval. I’ll CONTINUE to do them with the approval of Mark &anyone else I need to talk to.”
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Hue learned how to do everything from Al. Hue was going to fire Bresh but realized they buried the over head with Al.
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:49 pm
YoungAmerican … True… McFadden has never made a full season… Not much value in an RB that misses more than 1/2 the season … I’m just hoping he comes back healthy …
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:49 pm
285.YoungAmerican Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:45 pm
As someone stated before C Woodson had bad feet but recovered and has a pretty good career.
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In Charles Woodson’s first four seasons, he started every game but one.
How many games has McFadden been limited or inactive?
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Point is. He is to good to give up on right now. I had considered what you are talking about some weeks ago. But if he can get past the foot issues he can be great just like Woodson did.
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:51 pm
Grade our D?… Just write down F’n horrible … They don’t deserve a grade…
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:51 pm
257.Seymour Bush Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:26 pm
alex7 Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:22 pm
and twocents
honestly, honestly, if Al prepared Hue to have a strong hand in the franchise, do you REALLY think Mark would over-rule that before the first off-season?
That’d be a slap in the face of the old man’s final wishes.
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There is NO WAY the old man would have brought Jackson back after the last five games. Absolutely NO WAY.
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I have to disagree. Hue still put points on the board amid all the injuries. He was a rookie HC that has produced solid offense for 2 years.
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:51 pm
I’ve had a sick, puky feeling since the game ended.
After a day of excuses and complaining, I guess in reality we would of played one more game this year, we wouldn’t beat the Steelers where this team is at right now(too many players not 100% and no Dmac)
So let’s revamp the defensive unit and coaching staff through free agency and the draft and I’ll put this team against anybody next year….
If they don’t come away from this game with extra motivation I’ll be surprised.
Expecting big things next year!!!
Go RAIDERS……
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:52 pm
Romo just said… It’s the players , not the coach( Bresnahan)…
Not so sure I agree…..in fact I don’t agree…. Schemes matter… Coverages matter ..
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:53 pm
Wtf, no announcements of any firings yet?
Chuck should have been shown the door yesterday and hurt should have at least been demoted by now
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:54 pm
Reporter: Hue, how do you really feel about the defense down the stretch?
Hue: Its unacceptable.
Reporter: Any changes coming in staff?
Hue: I haven’t set through it all, but obviously I’m going to meet with everybody here soon and we’ll go from there.
Reporter: Can you make those changes knowing there’s going to be a front office hire at some point and you stated you were going to take a stronger role in the organization at some point. Is that stuff already sorted out in your mind?
Hue: No. No its not. But I would hope as the Head coach that this organization would realize that I have a pretty good ideal of where we need to go.
Cause if not then I shouldn’t be setting where I am.
Reporter: Will you be meeting with Mark this week to set out plan for offseason?
Hue: Yeah, I’m sure we will get together soon.
Reporter: How eager are you to field a team where you know you molded it – All the coaches came from you and all the players were moves by you?
Hue: Again, I would like to be involved because having been through it now I understand more of what it takes to win.
BUT AGAIN, WHATEVER MARK DECIDES TO DO, YOU KNOW I’M GONNA RESPECT THAT ALSO BECAUSE THIS IS HIS FOOTBALL TEAM.
I would want to be as involved as I can be just because I think I’m in it. I’m in it deep. You know, I know exactly what is going on.
Reporter: How involved do you think you will be involved in actual search for a GM and would that be awkward because you would essentially be looking to hire your own boss?
Hue: Yeah, I don’t know that, but I don’t think it would be awkward. I’m pretty comfortable in who I am and what I am. I’m not going to get caught up in who we hire or who we bring in here. I know how that works. People mention if you hire a GM he might want to bring in his own coach.
AND IF THAT’S WHAT MARK DECIDES TO DO THEN THAT’S HIS RIGHT. I DON’T THINK THAT’S THE CASE, BUT AGAIN THAT’S HIS RIGHT.
But at the end of the day whoever comes here will share the same vision as me which is winning a championship.
Reporter: Have you been involved in the process so far with Mark?
Hue: Yes we’ve talked but not nailed down who, what, when or any specifics.
Reporter: Do you think your opinion will be sought though?
Hue: Yes, I think I will be, but how involved I don’t know yet. I think Mark will let me know that as we move forward.
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:54 pm
Point is. He is to good to give up on right now. I had considered what you are talking about some weeks ago. But if he can get past the foot issues he can be great just like Woodson did.
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If McFadden could carry the Raiders against elite defenses, then he’d be “too good” to give up on. But he can’t. I’m not sure any running back can. Best to have a rotation of guys who can get it done and contribute over the course of a season even if they aren’t “home run threats” than to have a running back who makes $5 million a season to play an average of 8 games.
Raiders are already over the cap for next season. McFadden is a luxury, and the Raiders can’t afford luxuries when they have other areas of the team that need improvement.
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:55 pm
There is NO WAY the old man would have brought Jackson back after the last five games. Absolutely NO WAY.
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yup… no way Al would ever settle for 8-8… ask Tom Cable. Oh yeah, he was 9-19 and before mustering up his ‘We are not losers anymore’ speech.
Of course this season was a disappointment. I for one can’t wait to see Hue Jackson and our new GM take the axe to the dead weight around here.
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:55 pm
Romonoski just said that Chucky B took them to the Super Bowl as a D coordinator and what we really needed were better players…..hmmm
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:56 pm
Is their anyone here that doesn’t understand that it was the defense that killed our season and not the offense?…. I’m ok with the progress of our offense concidering the mountain of injuries…
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:56 pm
666… Heard that … Didn’t agree with Romo ..
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:57 pm
The Raiders have Miami’s defense we win the Super Bowl…. But only if DJ Run is healthy, my sister could have tracked down MikieB yesterday…Not down on the O tho for sure. Our defense is beyond invisible. They are In a different dimension. If we had 4 Giordanos and 3 Tyvon’s we would be in the Tourney…
Bottom Line: This team ain’t good enough. Gonna be a Lookooooooooong off season my Raider Brethren.
Look on the Brightside, we have a playoff caliber Offense. The problem is clearly defensive. It’s been ID’d and will be addressed.
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:58 pm
I am starting to agree with Romo I saw a heartless team out there yesterday on defense, guys were not playing with any since of urgency like watching McClain jog in slow motion no pressure all day long not one sack.
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:58 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:55 pm
Romonoski just said that Chucky B took them to the Super Bowl as a D coordinator and what we really needed were better players…..hmmm
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If the defense had one single playmaker, the result yesterday might have been different.
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:58 pm
There is NO WAY the old man would have brought Jackson back after the last five games. Absolutely NO WAY.
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I have to disagree. Hue still put points on the board amid all the injuries. He was a rookie HC that has produced solid offense for 2 years.
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Davis was all about wins and losses. And Jackson put up NO POINTS in either Miami or GB til garbage time. And last year he was running Cables Offense. So, no, I have to disagree with your disagreement.
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:59 pm
Cable didn’t get fired for going 8 & 8… He got fired because Al had Hue in the wings …the ” We aren’t losers anymore ” comment was just an excuse … Al knew he was firing Cable the minute he hired Hue …
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:59 pm
“Is their anyone here that doesn’t understand that it was the defense that killed our season”
Yes I do agree with you on the D letting us down but I also disagree with you on scheme.
I firmly believe that we have a bunch of overpaid under preforming players on defense that will get weeded out by Hue this off season.
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:01 pm
Palmer, DMAC, Ford, Moore, DHB, Reese, Jones, Boss, O-Line……..all healthy, I’m excited for next year, again pending big changes on Defense
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:01 pm
Yesterday’s outcome is actually the best thing that could have happened to this organization…had we won the players and coaches on defense may have been given another year to stink it up….now there is no question that plenty of changes will take place…..we would have been one and done anyway not even up for debate on that
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:01 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:58 pm
I am starting to agree with Romo I saw a heartless team out there yesterday on defense, guys were not playing with any since of urgency like watching McClain jog in slow motion no pressure all day long not one sack.
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This team did not play hard for Jackson. It did play hard til the end for Cable. One time going into the Super Bowl a HC was asked what he was going to do to get his players motivated to play. He said, “if my players aren’t motivated, I need different players.” It really is time for a major house cleaning here. Bring in a new GM, let him pick his coaches and philosophy, and look at a three year rebuilding.
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:01 pm
Hue claims that Al taught him how to run a franchise, how to be a GM, how to evaluate talent. Knowing Al’s record of the last ten years, do we really care?
Could this just be Hue trying to advance his career and make the best of a fortuitous situation?
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:02 pm
REPOST: THIS IS FROM HUE JACKSON PRESS CONFERENCE TODAY!
Reporter: Hue, how do you really feel about the defense down the stretch?
Hue: Its unacceptable.
Reporter: Any changes coming in staff?
Hue: I haven’t set through it all, but obviously I’m going to meet with everybody here soon and we’ll go from there.
Reporter: Can you make those changes knowing there’s going to be a front office hire at some point and you stated you were going to take a stronger role in the organization at some point. Is that stuff already sorted out in your mind?
Hue: No. No its not. But I would hope as the Head coach that this organization would realize that I have a pretty good ideal of where we need to go.
Cause if not then I shouldn’t be setting where I am.
Reporter: Will you be meeting with Mark this week to set out plan for offseason?
Hue: Yeah, I’m sure we will get together soon.
Reporter: How eager are you to field a team where you know you molded it – All the coaches came from you and all the players were moves by you?
Hue: Again, I would like to be involved because having been through it now I understand more of what it takes to win.
BUT AGAIN, WHATEVER MARK DECIDES TO DO, YOU KNOW I’M GONNA RESPECT THAT ALSO BECAUSE THIS IS HIS FOOTBALL TEAM.
I would want to be as involved as I can be just because I think I’m in it. I’m in it deep. You know, I know exactly what is going on.
Reporter: How involved do you think you will be involved in actual search for a GM and would that be awkward because you would essentially be looking to hire your own boss?
Hue: Yeah, I don’t know that, but I don’t think it would be awkward. I’m pretty comfortable in who I am and what I am. I’m not going to get caught up in who we hire or who we bring in here. I know how that works. People mention if you hire a GM he might want to bring in his own coach.
AND IF THAT’S WHAT MARK DECIDES TO DO THEN THAT’S HIS RIGHT. I DON’T THINK THAT’S THE CASE, BUT AGAIN THAT’S HIS RIGHT.
But at the end of the day whoever comes here will share the same vision as me which is winning a championship.
Reporter: Have you been involved in the process so far with Mark?
Hue: Yes we’ve talked but not nailed down who, what, when or any specifics.
Reporter: Do you think your opinion will be sought though?
Hue: Yes, I think I will be, but how involved I don’t know yet. I think Mark will let me know that as we move forward.
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:04 pm
Davis was all about wins and losses. And Jackson put up NO POINTS in either Miami or GB til garbage time. And last year he was running Cables Offense. So, no, I have to disagree with your disagreement.
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LoL… Cables offense. HAHAHA. You people crack me up.
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:04 pm
PA-RAIDER Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:01 pm
Palmer, DMAC, Ford, Moore, DHB, Reese, Jones, Boss, O-Line……..all healthy, I’m excited for next year, again pending big changes on Defense
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We have a very very good Q, a good RB, a nice set of receivers, a very good LT, and some decent guys in the 2ndary. There are some pieces here to build with. Bring in a GM like McKenzie or bring in Polian, let them build the team around their philosophies, and let’s see what happens.
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:05 pm
666… You were ok with Bresnahans coverages?… Lb’s on top flight recievers,?… McClain on Megatron?.. Really ?
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:05 pm
Al would never have fired HueJack after 1 season. He gave Lame Kiffin the start of a second season after going 4-12. Hue is NOT the problem. The DEFENSE (AL’s baby) was the problem because Al wasnt there to lead them and Chuck B is garbage. Get a grip people. We need continuity in our HC not the Al Davis rollercoaster.
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:05 pm
299.Silverandblack666 Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:55 pm
Romonoski just said that Chucky B took them to the Super Bowl as a D coordinator and what we really needed were better players…..hmmm
fingers Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:52 pm
Romo just said… It’s the players , not the coach( Bresnahan)…
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Romo played with PROVEN veteran stud defenders and that team had a great offense! So, yes it is the players (that got Chuck B to the SB)
Romo is a loudmouth 49er/bronco roid monkey backing his ex supplier.
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:08 pm
Post 312 says it all. Hue is through.
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:10 pm
bcz24 Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:04 pm
Davis was all about wins and losses. And Jackson put up NO POINTS in either Miami or GB til garbage time. And last year he was running Cables Offense. So, no, I have to disagree with your disagreement.
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LoL… Cables offense. HAHAHA. You people crack me up.
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We were actually better last year offensively under Cable’s offense with Jackson doing some of the play calling. With worse players. And a more difficult schedule. And a team that played hard til the end. Jackson put in his offense this year.
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:13 pm
Chuck Bresnahan. Al Davis’ last fk-up.
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:13 pm
Chuky B is a POS!
I dont care what the Steroid Lover says.
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:15 pm
“666… You were ok with Bresnahans coverages?… Lb’s on top flight recievers,?… McClain on Megatron?.. Really ?”
Execution and lack of effort was more evident than schemes and game planning if you ask me.
McClain was there because in a Tampa 2 the MLB drops back into coverage but it was Boyd’s mistake not the fact that McClain was on the WR.
Yes we were in a Tampa 2 that same Tampa 2 that won a Super Bowl you might recall….again it was the players fault Boyd sucks how can you argue that?
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:15 pm
I think Bresnahan just happened to be there for the 2002 superbowl team….the team just happened to be good… And loaded with good players… Al’s last good team…
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:16 pm
I am in no way defending Chucky B like Romo did I am just saying we have bigger problems than just a crappy D coordinator, we have some crappy players too.
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:16 pm
WHY HASN’T BRESNAHAN BEEN FIRED YET?
This smacks of indecision and poor leadership. Hue, you are better than that! Get rid of that LOSER NOW! He brings no added value to this team. He’s a waste of space. You might want to send John Fasell along with him as his escort – out of the building. There’s nothing special about our special teams except for our two kickers and long snapper. The rest are all replaceable.
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:18 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:15 pm
“666… You were ok with Bresnahans coverages?… Lb’s on top flight recievers,?… McClain on Megatron?.. Really ?”
Execution and lack of effort was more evident than schemes and game planning if you ask me.
McClain was there because in a Tampa 2 the MLB drops back into coverage but it was Boyd’s mistake not the fact that McClain was on the WR.
Yes we were in a Tampa 2 that same Tampa 2 that won a Super Bowl you might recall….again it was the players fault Boyd sucks how can you argue that?
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Teams have realized McClain cannot cover anyone that’s why they isolate him. And in case no one noticed Gates ran right by Mitchell for their lst score yesterday. There needs to be wholesale changes. Start with the usual suspects: McClain and Mitchell. Dudes are just not NFL caliber players.
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:19 pm
666…..those coverages didn’t work this year… Buffalo, Detriot…Denver.. San Diego….
The players we have now on defense aren’t even comparable to our superbowl D’s
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:19 pm
What was most interesting to me was that for all his bravado Hue basically admitted that he still didn’t have the authority to hire his own coaching staff.
He basically said he would have to ask Mark first.
Sounds familiar.
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:19 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:10 pm
bcz24 Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:04 pm
Davis was all about wins and losses. And Jackson put up NO POINTS in either Miami or GB til garbage time. And last year he was running Cables Offense. So, no, I have to disagree with your disagreement.
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LoL… Cables offense. HAHAHA. You people crack me up.
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We were actually better last year offensively under Cable’s offense with Jackson doing some of the play calling. With worse players. And a more difficult schedule. And a team that played hard til the end. Jackson put in his offense this year.
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Complete nonsense…….HueJack called all the plays last year and ran his offense his way. Stop with the crappy revisionist history.
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:19 pm
No reason to fire Bresnahan today. Let Mark Davis and Amy Trask find the GM first, then let him make the decisions.
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:20 pm
1. “I’m going take a stronger hand in this whole team, this whole organization,” Jackson said. “There ain’t no way that I’m going to feel like I feel today a year from now, I promise you that. There’s no question.”
To Mark Davis: welcome Hue back with an ax handle across that shiney, black pate. When he goes down, loop a chain around his ankles, wench him up toward the rafters, promptly tar and feather him, welcome him out of town, and clip his eggs at the city limit line so no more defective dna gets into the gene pool.
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:20 pm
Seymour.. I thought both those guys would be great players in time… But I’m in agreement now… They suck ( McClain, Mitchelle ).. Really disappointing players
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:20 pm
1. Mother F’n Cro-Magnon Man w/3 inch skull: Hue is better off as a snake oil salesman or tent revival pastor boinking married, female parishoners. As an HC in the NFL, he’s a joke.
Many entries claim Hue should be retained as OC: his play calling sucks; 1st down Bush up the middle for no gain; 2nd down short pass to DHB; 3rd down Bush up the middle, no gain and out. Hmmmm….that’s if we are not going straight back with a bevy of penalties.
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:22 pm
JB Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:16 pm
WHY HASN’T BRESNAHAN BEEN FIRED YET?
This smacks of indecision and poor leadership. Hue, you are better than that!
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Right now they are evaluating Jackson. Bresnahan will come soon enough. But Bresnahan didn’t give up a 106 yard KO return after the Raiders closed it to 14-10. That demoralizing play falls on the Head Coach.
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:22 pm
DHB: you have to be kidding; his performance is worst when crunch time comes – no talent – gains some yards, but then drops the ball when we need him most – has a fat turd hanging from his butt.
Get rid of him now while he may have some trade value.
DMAC: big jackass with serial foot problems; he ran right over several bottom tier teams. So what? Top tier teams shut him down; he looked the same as Bush averaging less than 60 yds. End result of his presence on the team for the last 4 yrs ?? zipp0, nada, zilch.
Get rid of him too while he has some trade value.
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:22 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:19 pm
No reason to fire Bresnahan today. Let Mark Davis and Amy Trask find the GM first, then let him make the decisions.
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Um… You do realize that there are several coaching vacancies in the NFL and these guys will be working hard to build a quality staff?
The only reason that would make sense as far as waiting is if the candidate for DC were on a playoff team.
Otherwise, you run the risk of the guy you want being swept up by another organization.
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:23 pm
If everyone thinks the club can’t get turned around in a year, notice the 49′ers at 13 and 3. I remember a high intensity loud mouth named Mike Singletary. He just didn’t have what it took; same as Hue.
The 49′ers gave up only a single running TD all season, while making a man of Alex Smith. Sever Stank AL; attenuate his taint.
It’s time.
Blow up the team Mark, top to bottom. Let’s just move forward. You can do it, boy. It’s not rocket science. If you are afraid to fire Hue, let me do it for you. I’ll bring my ax handle.
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:23 pm
Al D… Not a Jackson fan huh?… Lmaoooo…
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:23 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:22 pm
JB Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:16 pm
WHY HASN’T BRESNAHAN BEEN FIRED YET?
This smacks of indecision and poor leadership. Hue, you are better than that!
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Right now they are evaluating Jackson. Bresnahan will come soon enough. But Bresnahan didn’t give up a 106 yard KO return after the Raiders closed it to 14-10. That demoralizing play falls on the Head Coach.
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HOW DOES THAT FALL ON THE HEAD COACH? THE PLAYERS GAVE UP THAT RETURN, NOT THE COACH!!!! Good lord man, you lack any type of perspective at all. Players make plays coaches put them in position. You think Hue said, “Let em run it back so we get the ball right back?” Blind, stupid hatred. Pretty sure Gruden went 8-8 his first season and we all kinda like him huh?
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:24 pm
fingers Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:20 pm
Seymour.. I thought both those guys would be great players in time…
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I did too. I had really high hopes for both. This is Mitchell’s 3rd year. You REALLY want to see improvement in the third year. McClain has maybe one more year to prove he can play. Maybe.
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:24 pm
Raiderduck fk u and all ur LA bullschit…team from Oakland and its only place they belong…fk u btch!
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:28 pm
True… These are the ” Oakland Raiders”…,always should be… Fk LA
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:28 pm
Beach u should be lifted of all ur life responsibilities and commit suicide
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:29 pm
In fact Gruden posted consecutive 8-8 seasons before we came back with a vengence and made a SB run. What was our record the last 2 years again?? Oh yeah, 8-8…….the time is here, as long as we only make the NECESSARY changes. Hue Jack STAYS!!
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:31 pm
For all of AD’s fk ups (bless his heart) and for all the people he has pissed off over the years, he did manage to retain some pretty good football minds in his circle. Mark Davis grew up with these guys and I’m sure that their input has much more weight than Hue.
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:31 pm
The GM will decide our coaching situation… We get a good GM , he should make the coaching calls ..
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:33 pm
Sounds like today’s Presser was a complete waste of time for everyone involved. Moving on….
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:33 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:11 pm
We’re not cutting McClain.
Our next DC will probably put in a 3-4, with McClain as the SILB.
Now if he’s still this mediocre, then maybe we ditch him. But give him a chance at his natural position first.
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Not without a decent nose tackle–and they don’t grow on trees.
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:34 pm
Um… You do realize that there are several coaching vacancies in the NFL and these guys will be working hard to build a quality staff?
The only reason that would make sense as far as waiting is if the candidate for DC were on a playoff team.
Otherwise, you run the risk of the guy you want being swept up by another organization.
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Let the GM assemble the coaching staff. Unless you liked how Al Davis ran things, where he hired coaches without even taking into consideration how they worked together and if their respective systems and teaching methods were compatible.
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:34 pm
Forrest Hump Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:29 pm
In fact Gruden posted consecutive 8-8 seasons before we came back with a vengence and made a SB run. What was our record the last 2 years again?? Oh yeah, 8-8…….the time is here, as long as we only make the NECESSARY changes. Hue Jack STAYS!!
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See post #271. I guess you are fine with going 1-4 down the stretch. Thank God you’re not making the franchise decisions.
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:34 pm
2012 – the year of the FA! This is our only current avenue of redemption. Renegotiate contracts based on performance, hire new key coaches and coordinators and get this ship afloat quickly. A new GM needs to be acquired as quickly as possible.
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:34 pm
Yep…!i didnt hear anything we don’t already know in today’s presser… Nothing
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:35 pm
This poster Al D is in serious need of an intervention, anybody got his address I will send 2 guys over there with a net, and a couple of hyperdermics to calm him down
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:36 pm
RaiderDuck is a disrespectful pxssy…u wanna steal something that doesn’t belong to you. Going to LA in first place was mistake number one and for 30 years damn near its been a struggle…fk u and ur punk ass schit…u only care about looks of your coked out stadium….accept the charger in LA or shut up btch
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:37 pm
Forrest Hump Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:23 pm
HOW DOES THAT FALL ON THE HEAD COACH? THE PLAYERS GAVE UP THAT RETURN, NOT THE COACH!!!!
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Oh yeah, I forgot, wins and losses, big plays in the return game, field goals not TD’s, not having the right play, poor clock management, that is not the fault of the Head Coach. That’s the fault of the City of Oakland. Right….
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:38 pm
Ok I will start with Wimbly who is paid to play like Julius Peppers and had “one” good game all year.
Giradono was in over his head, I mean here is a practice squad player that we had to use all season long….I will let the rest of you call out other players I started the list
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:38 pm
PGutierrezCSN “The year is over now; now I can tell you what I really feel, and what’s really on my mind.” – boxing promoter Bob Arum, er @RAIDERS HueJax
19 minutes ago
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Just a bunch of BS the whole time, ehh Hubert?….
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:38 pm
elraidmanhattan Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:35 pm
This poster Al D is in serious need of an intervention, anybody got his address I will send 2 guys over there with a net, and a couple of hyperdermics to calm him down
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They’re trolls that come in here to post garbage. Just ignore them.
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:38 pm
Wah!!
Most of you Hue haters are delusional!!
It took Grudern 3 years!! Hue inhereited Al’s Deefense which were Al’s players!!
Sine HueJax became involved with our organization, we actually have hope for the 1st time, oh and he dealt with a myriad of issues, Death of Al, lost starting QB, etc.
I guarantee you HueJax is staying, get us a decent D coordinator, a cover LB, one more corner, Carson an offseason with the “O”, and we win this didvsion in week 14
Stop being butt hurt and think logical, Chuck B screwed us big time. All we had to do was stop 1 98 plus yard drive against Detroit or SD and we would be ok.
Actually it’s good we lost this way so we can finally address what has been ignored for a decade: Our Defense and our penalties. The penalty issue again is an Al Davis thing, Hue inherited an Old Man’s dying philosophy, give him another year.
Playoffs, AFC West total at 11-5 next year!!!
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:36 pm
RaiderDuck is a disrespectful pxssy…u wanna steal something that doesn’t belong to you. Going to LA in first place was mistake number one and for 30 years damn near its been a struggle…fk u and ur punk ass schit…u only care about looks of your coked out stadium….accept the charger in LA or shut up btch
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Same ole dumbschit from you. This aint your blog btch!
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Hue needs to go…fk that schit…punk takes no accountability
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:40 pm
Keep a good product in Oakland and it will sellout…. That’s why that D has to be fixed … Tired of being sick to my stomach watching Qbs slice through our D like a hot butter knife
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:41 pm
Post 252 Seymour Bush,,
No beef, I just gave a honest analysis on Hue that’s all.
I’m not sayn to keep him or can him. I just try to put everything in perspective considering everything that took place this season ie; deaths, injuries, gun charges, more deaths, Chuck B, more injuries, as well as his own foolish mistakes. I think everybody needs to slow down with all the bring in Cohwer, Fisher and Gruden talk, because what makes people think all of these top notch coaches are going to be kicking down the doors to take the Raiders job anyway? We are about to find out what Mark Davis is really about now that the season is over. We’ll see if he’s just like his dad (hopefully not), or if he’s openminded to becoming a modernnized sports franchise. The jurry is still out on Mark Davis.
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:41 pm
303 you’re a wimp just like Hue…and a loser like he is
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:41 pm
Funny, when Hue Jackson took the blame in his press conferences, everyone was all up in arms because he wouldn’t call out certain players. Now that he starts pointing out that certain players didn’t do their jobs, Hue Jackson takes no responsibility for the team.
Can’t have it both ways, guys.
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:42 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:34 pm
Forrest Hump Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:29 pm
In fact Gruden posted consecutive 8-8 seasons before we came back with a vengence and made a SB run. What was our record the last 2 years again?? Oh yeah, 8-8…….the time is here, as long as we only make the NECESSARY changes. Hue Jack STAYS!!
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See post #271. I guess you are fine with going 1-4 down the stretch. Thank God you’re not making the franchise decisions.
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NO thank God YOU AREN’T. Hue Jack stays. Watch and see.
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:43 pm
Stop being butt hurt and think logical, Chuck B screwed us big time. All we had to do was stop 1 98 plus yard drive against Detroit or SD and we would be ok.
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Sorry guy, but this team was 7-4. In control. Playing well. It’s not this team had one 99 and a half yard drive to seal it. This team had dozens of opportunities to seal it. And never did. They went 4-6 in their last 10. Including more than one blow out loss. Time for more than one person to hit the unemployment line.
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:44 pm
STFU you saw different…. relay do tell…I saw a team of guys on D playing half speed heartless lack of urgency please explain what you saw?
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:46 pm
Players didn’t play hard and that’s ultimately on Hue, he is their motivator.
You can blame schemes all you want but sloppy tackling will make any scheme look bad. Guys cant shed blocks taking bad angles there are no Schemes for that!
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:47 pm
It’s the diffrence in winning and losing… Lose and it’s nasty in here… Win , and it’s all sunshine and puppy’s… We’re in the Nasty faze..lol…..as you can see ( read)
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:48 pm
Got it, thanks.
Now back to the team we all want some kind of resolution, it is coming I am sure of it the next days/week will tell all. .
In the meantime please Mark Davis, and Amy Trask- call Mike Nolan,and bring him back to the west coast.
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:49 pm
666…saw the same defense you saw…. Guys that played like they don’t give a schidt ..
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:50 pm
It’s time to ditch Seymour and switch to a 3-4 defense.
All the best defenses run the 3-4.
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:53 pm
666..but I differ in that I do believe the schemes aren’t good… As well as personnel…IMO we need to blow up the D … …I don’t know if it’s Woodson or Bresnahan but I do know our DB are blowing coverages and out of position to make plays…. IMO its execution as well as schemes ..
January 2nd, 2012 at 4:54 pm
And Tackling … Sheesh… Our defense couldn’t tackle my grandmother …
January 2nd, 2012 at 5:02 pm
So disappointed, Raider fans… I have to lay it on the defense… yes Bres needs to be dropkicked into the Bay, but I think our D-Line needs a long look.. I watched the Giants demolish the Cowboys and couldn’t help but think “Why dosen’t our Dline perform like that?
Hire a GM?.. of course
Hue?.. I’m conflicted.. Terrible time management.. questionable playcalling yesterday. Still, I’d like to see him have one more year with this offense, minus responsibilities of the GM.
Finally a note to Dvrick…
Dvrick.. you missed it earlier when your mom posted that in her opinion Phillip Rivers d!ck tasted just like yours! Also she was baking you a cake to celebrate the Chargers still HAVE NEVER WON A CHAMPIONSHIP.
January 2nd, 2012 at 5:10 pm
124.exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 2:09 pm
R.I.P.: 2011 Oakland Raiders.
Now for all you f*cked up Raider Haters, it was probably enjoyable to you. To me , I saw a team that still contended in spite of devastating injuries. Yes, all teams had them but ours were more severe. All speed and skill players hurt. Hue was stuck with an awful defensive coordinator. Fire him. On the subject of Palmer, when a QB has no running game and still throws for 400 yrd, no complaints by me. I feel better now, I vented.
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Agree!
This part of “still contended in spite of devastating injuries” it´s what make keep the faith. just look at the poors Colts.
January 2nd, 2012 at 5:14 pm
If we were going to switch to a3/4 wich I am all for I would want rex Ryan I think he knows he ain’t a hc and realizes he should shut his big mouth and demote to a DC. We have some fast hard young hitting players. I think he would flourish us into what we need to be. O yea let’s get rid of some puzzies like mcclain, litto, cj, blackstock, tj housh, boller, seymore, Kelly maybe keep Kelly since he is a true raider, Boyd, actually let’s seek trades and re structure contracts if they don’t like it ship them out . We have a lot of young players so the draft is over rated plus we always blow our first round picks, some 3 rd and 4th even 5 th round guy’s like d. Moore can be found so let’s trade our trash for something .
January 2nd, 2012 at 5:41 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
January 2nd, 2012 at 3:55 pm
Romonoski just said that Chucky B took them to the Super Bowl as a D coordinator and what we really needed were better players…..hmmm
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That’s true. Not saying Chuck is a defensive wiz, but he did not have quality guys on that D. That D was put together by the man who always thought that athletic guys could and should magically turn into
Jack Tatums, Ted Hendricks, Willie Browns, and Howie Longs. Big Al lived in a dream wonderland, his own football Neverland.
I’ve been saying all along how sick I am of people claiming we have a lot of talent on defense. What kind of talent are they talking about?
January 2nd, 2012 at 5:44 pm
And about Rod Woodson. Steve said the guys liked him, but liking a guy isn’t the same as his being a good coach. For all I know, he is a good coach; for all I know, he isn’t.
What I do know is that several people, including Tom Flores, have pointed out that Stan Routt seemed to be mimicking the “hand-swatting” technique that was employed “to perfection by Rod Woodson but which is no longer legal under the rules’ changes.”
So, I hope that any new DC can appoint his own staff.
January 2nd, 2012 at 6:36 pm
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January 2nd, 2012 at 7:18 pm
KoolKell Says:
Chuck Bresnahan. Al Davis’ last fk-up.
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Hue Jackson. Al Davis’ second to last fk-up.
Let’s hope both fk-ups are remedied soon.
January 3rd, 2012 at 9:21 am
HUE:
Remember: It’s better to be pissed off, than pissed on.
January 3rd, 2012 at 9:24 am
Cooper Carlisle said Monday. “We didn’t know the exact scenario that would play out, but it turns out if we win that game, we’re preparing for Pittsburgh.
..You ARE preparing for Pittsburgh…it’s just next season! And, it’s likely our damn home opener since the NFL likes to do everything they can to increase the possibilities of the Raiders losing in the beginning of every season.
January 3rd, 2012 at 5:32 pm
Steve Spagnuolo!
February 14th, 2012 at 5:39 am
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