Ron Wolf on 95.7 The Game
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, January 4th, 2012 at 9:55 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Here’s a transcript of an interview former Raiders exec Ron Wolf did on 95.7 The Game (FM). Interesting to note at the bottom Wolf said he is not serving in any sort of advisory capacity with the club. It’s at least the second time he’s said it, which hasn’t slowed the belief that he’s in the ear of owner Mark Davis. The other names mentioned as being “advisors” have been John Madden and Ken Herock.
Madden has been at some games, and given his loyalty to Al Davis, there’s no reason to think he doesn’t pick up the phone every time Mark calls. As for Herock, he’s been at practices, talking to coaches, taking to players as well as Mark Davis as Amy Trask. He’s been at games as well. When I asked Trask about Herock’s involvement, she said he was “part of the Raider family.” Herock also worked at Green Bay with Wolf and while McKenzie was there.
The transcript from an interview conducted on 95.7:
Q: How are Raiders run compared to other franchises?
Wolf: I’m not into that really and truly. It’s an area I don’t know that much about. I do know having worked 25 years under Al Davis with the Raiders exactly what that was like when he was in control. The great thing about working for him was the fact that you knew what you were supposed to do and you were given the opportunity to do that. Everything was compartmentalized. I do not know what the structure is today or what it’s like because I left in 1990, but it would seem to me that whole thing has fallen apart from the sense of a structural standpoint. And I think that’s what the need to get back.
Q: Seems that now Hue Jackson getting involved in everything, even wants to be involved in hiring of a GM. How involved should he be in that process?
Wolf: Again, this is an area I’m not familiar with. I really don’t know Hue Jackson at all other than by reputation, and I would think the hiring of a general manager is in the auspices of the owner, certainly not the head football coach. If the head football coach wants to be in it, why not the head of marketing or the head of personnel, not personnel, public relations. You could run down the whole gamut of who should be in there, but I would think that’s the owner’s bailiwick and the owner should take care of it. And it sounds to me, what I’ve heard, is the owner is going to take care of that.
Q: Is Mark Davis the type that wants to be front and center, wants to be out there, or does he want to be behind the curtain?
Wolf: I think what Mark Davis’ deal is, he wants to bring the Raiders back to where they were, the glory years of the 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s. I think that’s what he wants to do. I also think he’s smart enough to realize what he can and cannot do, what he’s capable of and what he isn’t capable of. So I think, rather than putting himself in the limelight, I would think that he is going to hire people that would enable him to bring out the best in the Raiders. He knows, I believe, Mark is smart enough to know what he can do, and he will only help in areas that he can help in. I don’t think he feels that he needs to be the front line guy here.
Q: How will having not many draft picks affect mindset of GM coming in?
Wolf: Well, if you’re a GM coming in, you have to realize there’s only 31 of those jobs. So if you want a job, obviously, you’re not going to get a job with a top-notch operation from a won-loss standpoint because they’re doing well. They’re not going to change. So you’re opportunity is in this particular end here, where they don’t have somebody. So you have to weigh that. Do you really want to be a general manager? And if you do, do when the opportunity presents itself, you have to bite the bullet and run with it.
Q: Raiders are open, the Bears, reports are Reggie McKenzie could have his choice between Chicago and Raiders. Which is the more appealing job?
Wolf: I think that would depend on the individual taking the job. I’ve been out 11 years so I’m not as conversant in who’s good, who’s not good, within the NFL, as I once was. I’m a fan now, so I can sit back and I can second guess like everybody else. It’s two-fold here. We’re talking about Reggie McKenzie, being at Green Bay obviously they play Chicago twice a year. He knows Chicago in and out. The ins and outs of Chicago. He does not know that much, probably the ins and outs of the Raiders, other than probably from a personnel standpoint. So it will be whatever’s most appealing to him. And fortunately for the Raiders, if they’re able to get someone the caliber of Reggie McKenzie that’s a big plus.
Q: What makes him so good? Why is Reggie McKenzie so special?
Wolf: Well, he’s worked his way right from the bottom up, all the way up to the top. He’s gone as far as you can go in his particular area, personnel. He’s handled every aspect in the personnel office that one could handle. He’s signed players. He’s cut players. He’s involved with players in contractual disputes. He’s handled things with the union. He understands how contracts work. He understands how the money end of the game works. He’s negotiated contracts. But most importantly, he’s an exceptional judge of talente.
Q: How best describe his day to day interpersonal skills? Intense, pragmatic, etc.?
Wolf: He functions very well. First of all, he’s a linebacker, and I think anyone understands the temperment of a linebacker. They are a little bit different breed. Reggie’s a little bit different in that standpoint. He came in as a rookie, I think he was a 10th round draft choice of the Raiders, and started, from the University of Tennessee. To me, that speaks volumes of his toughness, his mental and physical capabilities. He still has both of those, mental and physical capability. If he gets upset he can certainly hold his own in those areas. I just think he’s perfect.
Q: Some rumblings that if McKenzie comes here or Chicago, that your son, Elliot would be tandem, a hire with Reggie?
Wolf: I don’t know that. Let me say this, Reggie’s his own man. He will hire the people around him. Say, whatever job he gets _ or maybe he doesn’t get any job _ those will be Reggie’s people. He will hire the people he thinks can best help him do his job. And it doesn’t have anything to do with the names of my son or anyone else. Let me just say this, my son’s been involved with the Packers for eight years. He’s been involved long enough to know who can and who cannot do it, and he knows that. But I don’t think that Reggie would hire him just because he’s my son. He would hire him because he has the capability of helping Reggie become better.
Q: Alluded to fact had conversations with Mark, and he would hire a GM, how deep is your involvement in this process?
Wolf: I’m not involved in the process whatsoever. I talked to Mark a long time ago about what he wanted, what type of person he wanted and I recommended Reggie, that was the extent of it. I’m not involved at all.
Q: The perception is they were leaning on you more than you let on . . . you talked about Reggie in November, was that the last time you had contact with Mark?
Wolf: No, that’s not the last time, but I am not involved in Mark Davis’ search for the general manager. Let’s make this perfectly clear. Mark is going to do what he wants to do, how he wants to do it. I was called and asked about Reggie McKenzie and that was my recommendation. And I recommend him fully. He’s more than capable of being able to do the job.
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January 4th, 2012 at 9:56 pm
January 4th, 2012 at 9:56 pm
Yes!
January 4th, 2012 at 9:57 pm
Raider J Says:
January 4th, 2012 at 9:51 pm
“He (DMc) was going to be out there practicing with us this Wednesday.” That’s the word from coach Hue Jackson, anyway.
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what the fck he even say that for, that just opened up a can of schit. Dmac be out there wednesday, I feel so much better knowing that after watching the defense royally fck us outta any fckn post season. oh i’m so effen thrilled i just pissed myself. BFD
January 4th, 2012 at 9:59 pm
Do you guys realize that we lost that last game basically because of one blown special teams play and a missed field goal opportunity at the end of the first haly? Sucks. That is bad coaching. Sorry.
January 4th, 2012 at 10:00 pm
*half*
January 4th, 2012 at 10:01 pm
Djohnnyg Says:
January 4th, 2012 at 9:41 pm
842.hwnrdr Says:
January 4th, 2012 at 9:22 pm
What’s up Nation?!
Looks like Herrera neither denied nor confirmed that McKenzie was in Alameda today! ANd now Ron Wolf is denying that he is helping Mark and Amy in any capacity…which isn’t anything new…he has done that before!
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May I ask where you are seeing this?
Sorry, Jerry Mac tweeted it about an hour ago…
January 4th, 2012 at 10:04 pm
McKenzie is a no brainer. A former Raider who worked his way up the ladder with an organization from the bottom to the top. Can’t find a better fit than that – a guy earning his shot based on merit. If they lose him to the Bears, that would be worse than losing those two top picks.
January 4th, 2012 at 10:05 pm
If Ron recomends Reggie then that’s good enough for me. Hue better just concentrate on his staff.
January 4th, 2012 at 10:06 pm
If all things are equal, you pick Oakland over Chicago if your Reggie.
I am sure he knows how good the Packers are going to be….better to compete against Tim Tebow and Matt Cassel than Aaron Rogers and Matt Stafford
January 4th, 2012 at 10:07 pm
Sloppy, I thought the same thing. Why?… Like rubbing salt in the wound.
This is a guess, but it might be cuz Hue is taking heat for not putting him on I.R and he wnats us all to know “See. I told you guys he was close”.
January 4th, 2012 at 10:08 pm
If the head football coach wants to be in it, why not the head of marketing or the head of personnel, not personnel, public relations. You could run down the whole gamut of who should be in there, but I would think that’s the owner’s bailiwick and the owner should take care of it. And it sounds to me, what I’ve heard, is the owner is going to take care of that.
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Does that mean the D staff has been canned? Sounds like a clear cut statement Marks gonna hire the GM, keep Hue and can the D staff. Just gotta read between the lines.
January 4th, 2012 at 10:09 pm
Best part about McKenzie would be his assessment of Slow-lando. Like Wolf said, McKenzie was a linebacker and they’re built differently. Once he takes a close look at Slow on film and see’s the arm tackling, missed gaps and lazy body language I suspect he’ll send Roscoe on the next train back to Bama where he belongs.
January 4th, 2012 at 10:09 pm
djohnnyg Says:
January 4th, 2012 at 10:07 pm
Sloppy, I thought the same thing. Why?… Like rubbing salt in the wound.
This is a guess, but it might be cuz Hue is taking heat for not putting him on I.R and he wnats us all to know “See. I told you guys he was close”.
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Absolutely! and then some.
January 4th, 2012 at 10:10 pm
Too bad for Hue. He would have had full power had he not gone for it on 4th down against the Lions or had the raggedy defense not dragged him down…
Now he will see his role scaled back or his job eliminated outright
January 4th, 2012 at 10:14 pm
At least the raiders aren’t clemson. Jacoby must be just sick!
January 4th, 2012 at 10:20 pm
Wolf is distancing himself from this cuz he doesn’t want to be seen as the guy deciding this but he acknowledges talking with Mark “in addition to” just telling Mark that McKenzie would be a good hire. What do u think they talk about? Not just to shoot the breeze.
Wolf is not giving Hue any endorsement. “I just know him by reputation”.
I want Hue back, but i’m starting to think it may not be such a slam dunk anymore.
January 4th, 2012 at 10:20 pm
Chicago is a far better job than Oakland. The Raiders are a dumpster fire. No draft picks before the sixth round, an ego maniac for a head coach and a defense with maybe 5 keepers. Yeah sign me up! NOT! And I am a Raiders fan so I hope it’s Reggie.
January 4th, 2012 at 10:21 pm
Where’s Herrera when you need him?
January 4th, 2012 at 10:24 pm
REGGIE!
REGGIE!
REGGIE!
January 4th, 2012 at 10:24 pm
Chicago’s owner (McCaskey) and director of player personnel Ted Phillips both said at their press conference that any new GM “would have to be in tune with what Lovie Smith wants to do”.
They are outright saying any new GM will NOT have a say unless Lovie likes it too.
That’s a worse situation than Oakland for an aspiring “take control” type of GM.
January 4th, 2012 at 10:27 pm
Billy Beane for the new GM. Tony LaRussa the new head coach. Sign McGuire and Canseco as the 2 new starting outside linebackers.
January 4th, 2012 at 10:33 pm
F Money Ball…that means we will never win again!
January 4th, 2012 at 10:38 pm
This is a big deal for Raiders. We used to talk about how “nobody wants to come to Oakland’ etc. etc. etc. Well, things have changed.
The fact that one of the most respected minds in football is recommending that one of the guys HE most respects (McKenzie) should come here says alot.
Wolf wouldn’t publicly acknowledge he is suggesting McKenzie if he thought Oakland was a ‘dysfunctional’ organization.
Wolf’s opinion holds a ton of weight around the league.
That can only help us going forward with other top personnel and hopefully translate into top FA’s feeling this a good destination.
January 4th, 2012 at 10:48 pm
They should just let Hue sit in for the first few minutes of the interview, then send him on a beer run or something. Can’t let him chase this dude away to Chicago. Not sure if Hue can even attend, but i’d give him the day off when they interview McKenzie.
January 4th, 2012 at 10:50 pm
Whatever Mark Davis decides but please don’t sell the parking lot to Frank McCourt.
January 4th, 2012 at 10:57 pm
Reggie McKenzie, Packers director of football operations: He might be the most attractive candidate on the market, with the Packers’ success and his 25 years of NFL experience. A former player, McKenzie started his run in personnel with the Packers back in 1994 and worked his way up. His ties to former Green Bay GM Ron Wolf have many believing he’ll wind up getting the job in Oakland.
January 4th, 2012 at 10:58 pm
Wow. Didnt even know Reggie played for us. Sweet. Pls get him and Wolf’s son too. We get Wolf’s son…we get Ron Wolf Sr. off the record as well. DO IT MARK!!!!!
January 4th, 2012 at 11:01 pm
REGGIE.
REGGIE.
REGGIE.
January 4th, 2012 at 11:08 pm
To me bringing in an Ex Player of ours who has worked is way up the right way, is the most fitting way to Honor Al’s Legacy…
Come On Home Reggie!
January 4th, 2012 at 11:11 pm
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
January 4th, 2012 at 10:06 pm
If all things are equal, you pick Oakland over Chicago if your Reggie.
I am sure he knows how good the Packers are going to be….better to compete against Tim Tebow and Matt Cassel than Aaron Rogers and Matt Stafford
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Yep. I would think Reggie would want to come out to the West Coast instead of becoming a general manager of his teams rival.
He helped build the Pack to where they are at today, no way he will want to compete against his former team twice a year.
Reggie should know, the Raiders are close to being a very good football team and perhaps the best team in the AFC West.
Build a GREAT defense and this team can become something special.
January 4th, 2012 at 11:12 pm
# VanHeathen Says:
January 4th, 2012 at 11:08 pm
To me bringing in an Ex Player of ours who has worked is way up the right way, is the most fitting way to Honor Al’s Legacy…
Come On Home Reggie!
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Agreed!
The backup choice, Eric DeCosta of the Ravens is going to interview with the Rams I believe.
January 4th, 2012 at 11:13 pm
Wolf was very upfront in this interview. I like that.
January 4th, 2012 at 11:18 pm
I have a feeling that if we get McKenzie he is going to do a fire sale and get some picks for this draft. I would think the first to go will be players on the D side of the ball, Routt, McClain, Huff, Kelly, Seymour, Houston will all be worth something.
I don’t see Campbell coming back, unless he is offered a fair competition for the starting job. If Hue goes, than you can almost be sure that Palmer will go too. Though that would be insane since we would have given up a 1st rounder and 2nd for nothing. But if the new GM sees it fit to clean house and start anew this might be more of a reality than any of us think.
Another player that will give us a high pick is McFadden. I know, I don’t want to get rid of him either, but if Bush can be resigned, and if the GM sees enough in Taiwan to back him up, McFadden might just be expandable, in his eyes anyway, which would free up some cap space and get a high pick. Another factor that might help in that decision is that Bush seems to be more durable than McFadden. True, he did wear down but that was because he had no one to relieve him. Though it is well known that you need 2, if not 3 good backs now a days in this league, so the GM might just sign Bush and keep all 3.
Another player that might seem expandable is DHB. He has improved as of late, but with Moore and Ford in the fold, he might be another option at getting a decent pick and freeing up some cap as well. Though if he restructures his contract that might be an incentive to keep him.
The first thing the new GM does is evaluate our talent and see where we stand with the cap. Then he will want to build through the draft. Getting picks is very important this year, since we have none basically, and if he likes this years class, you can bet he will make some of these moves. I’m not an expert, but that is what makes sense to me. Not necessarily trading McFadden, or any one particular player, but just the idea of getting something in order to get picks, free up cap for free agent signings, and getting rid of dead weight.
As long as it is for the better of the team, I’m all for it. GO RAIDERS!
January 4th, 2012 at 11:23 pm
Sloppy Joe Says:
January 4th, 2012 at 10:08 pm
If the head football coach wants to be in it, why not the head of marketing or the head of personnel, not personnel, public relations. You could run down the whole gamut of who should be in there, but I would think that’s the owner’s bailiwick and the owner should take care of it. And it sounds to me, what I’ve heard, is the owner is going to take care of that.
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Does that mean the D staff has been canned? Sounds like a clear cut statement Marks gonna hire the GM, keep Hue and can the D staff. Just gotta read between the lines.
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No, what Ron Wolf is saying in that bit you quoted is that ONLY the owner should be involved in the hiring and choosing of a GM, and that Mark is going to take care of that. He’s also mocking the idea that a HC should be involved in that…like many of us have been telling others.
January 4th, 2012 at 11:36 pm
14. Hue was not going to be the GM, even if they made the playoffs. Wake up to reality! Mark Davis is smarter than you think.
January 4th, 2012 at 11:39 pm
Let me just say that Hue is not gonna lose his job.
He’ll know EXACTLY where it is… There just might be another guy doing it.
January 4th, 2012 at 11:46 pm
Yes, Hue should be canned right away. Bring in a new HC who won’t make any mistakes, but if he brings in nothing less that 6-0 to start the season,fire his sorry azz immediately.
January 4th, 2012 at 11:49 pm
I haven’t read what anyone thinks of this article, however I think Hue Jackson is over stepping his boundries a bit with saying ” I hope this organization understands that I have a pretty good idea of where we need to go , If not then I shouldn’t be sitting where I’m sitting. I think I know exactly what this teams and how they need to do it. ”
OH YOU DO KNOW EXACTLY HOW TO DO IT DO YOU ?
All this coming from a man who traded 2 1st round draft choices for a quarterback who has only played marginal imo. Granted Palmer didn’t have a training camp but still,this trade seemed like a panic move to me. AND WE DIDN’T GET INTO THE PLAYOFFS.
It also seems like from the quote above like Hue is sorta theatning to walk if he dosent get his way, at least that’s what I kinda feel from reading what he said. Now we must take into consideration he was pissed after the loss so he may have been blowing steam off. I dont know just something to keep an eye on.
The GM and coach should idealy work together in forming a championship caliber team, not be advesarial to each other. All I gotta say is hire Mckenzie from what I read this is the man to turn this nightmare around, and he’s a former Raider maby that will motivate him to choose the Raiders over the Bears.
One last thing, if I was Hue I would keep my mouth shut and just coach,loose lips sink ships Hue.
January 4th, 2012 at 11:50 pm
D staff been tossed yet? Anyone hear the latest.
Also, is it true hererra went on a tirade how he is next in line for the gm job? someone said he feels the raiders owe it to him. go figure.
January 4th, 2012 at 11:54 pm
I’m already thinking Chuck has cleaned out his office, what we should be talking about is who is going to be the new DC ?
January 4th, 2012 at 11:54 pm
37. Great sarcasm. Hue is fine with me as a Head Coach, nothing more, nothing less.
January 4th, 2012 at 11:54 pm
Wow. What an exceptional interview. Thank you Ron. Thank you 95.7
January 4th, 2012 at 11:57 pm
I can’t help but wonder how many fools were out partying on New Year’s Eve, when they should have been focused on winning the division!
January 4th, 2012 at 11:58 pm
If Herrara did that than he is ridiculous and should be fired asap.
I don’t mind of he beats up Kawakami on the way out though.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:01 am
This GM decision will impact the Raiders for at least the next 10 years! Getting the right GM and DC is the top priority now. Maybe convert Wimbley to pass rusher, bring in a free agent safety and at least one free agent linebacker. This team really can be close to Championship caliber come September, I believe!
January 5th, 2012 at 12:01 am
beach Says:
January 4th, 2012 at 11:57 pm
I can’t help but wonder how many fools were out partying on New Year’s Eve, when they should have been focused on winning the division!
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they musta been up to somethin cuz they wasn’t all there on Sunday. can you spell hung-over? hererra is not the guy you want doin room checks.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:02 am
If Mark Davis does hire Mckenzie I have one thing to say to the rest of the league.
WATCH OUT.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:03 am
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
January 4th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
T. Sizzle – Denver didn’t win the West, Oakland lost it.
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Post of the Year. Say Hunter I wish I could take credit for this.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:06 am
http://www.broncos%grateful%to%oakland.com
Elway sends Hue Jackson dozen red roses and bottle of champaign. Says if Broncos make it to Suppa Bowl, will have front row seats for Hue and Chuck.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:10 am
http://www.steelers%grateful%to%oakland.com
Tomlin sends Hue dozen yellow roses and bottle of champaign. Says if Pittsburgh makes it to Suppa Bowl, will have front row seats for Hue and Chuck.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:12 am
beach Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 12:01 am
This GM decision will impact the Raiders for at least the next 10 years! Getting the right GM and DC is the top priority now.
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McKenzie is a fantastic potential candidate. Polian is a fantastic proven candidate. I hope they interview both.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:14 am
http://www.norv%grateful%to%oakland.com
Norv sends Hue letter thanking him for extending his tenure as HC in San Diego and says he is looking forward to facing him next season so he can diss him after each game. Ends note with a PS: we goin home, you goin home.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:19 am
http://www.kcchiefs%romeo%hates%raiders.com
Romeo says in press conference if Oakland hadn’t won coin toss, his team woulda man sandwiched Raiders in front of home crowd. Ends note with a PS: we goin home, you goin home.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:22 am
No bull, if Raiders had respectable and legit D, Hue be smellin pretty at 13-3.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:29 am
we don’t need 13-3 joe, hell, if we win just one of four, Bills, first KC, det, or SD, we be in.
As pi$$ed off as I was on Sunday, I realize we don’t have no business being in the playoffs. Don’t deserve it, and we wouldn’t have gotten passed the first round. Not with the D as is.
GM will throw out the old cartuchos and reload, aim, and shoot. Next year we are in, you can bet on that.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:31 am
sorry for the double negative there, “I realize we HAVE NO business…” not “we don’t have no business…”
January 5th, 2012 at 1:30 am
The best thing I see in this post is Mark Davis saying he wants to get the Raiders back to their glory years.
Amen to that
January 5th, 2012 at 3:04 am
Reggie would be a great pick, and keep Hue the hell away from the talks. Hell after the coaching job he did in the last 3rd of the season he’s lucky if the GM will even retain his ass. I’m willing to give him a little slack because of how bad the defense played, but the GM should be able to pick the guy he wants not the other way around, Period! Who would you want to have input Ron Wolf or Hue Jack, Duh.
January 5th, 2012 at 3:10 am
Reggie McKenzie is the best option of the named candidates IMHO because he is the only one with Raider background. I don’t want this organization to be one of the “sterile” cookie-cutter org. As a lifelong fan I embraced the team because of the non-conforming, rebel tradition. I can’t follow a team that is pre-fab, sanitized, disneyland pirate. Bring in a GM who can understand that and keep the Raider tradition alive!
January 5th, 2012 at 3:16 am
Personally, I would hope for a Madden to be GM even Wolf. But many say Madden/Wolf do not want the responsibility because of their retirements. Of younger people with ties to the organization I would not mind a Tom Flores or even a Jon Gruden for Gm but I do not know their experience in handling contracts personnel negotiations etc. Just do not want an outsider to sterilize this org thats all
January 5th, 2012 at 3:36 am
Quick note to EMRaiders, DHB has already restructured his contract. He is only making 2.1M in 2012. When he restructured his contract in 2010, it paid him like 21.9M that year. So most of his contract has already been paid.
January 5th, 2012 at 4:03 am
Raidertalk Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 3:10 am
Reggie McKenzie is the best option of the named candidates IMHO because he is the only one with Raider background. I don’t want this organization to be one of the “sterile” cookie-cutter org. As a lifelong fan I embraced the team because of the non-conforming, rebel tradition. I can’t follow a team that is pre-fab, sanitized, disneyland pirate. Bring in a GM who can understand that and keep the Raider tradition alive!
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here here and hes also somebody Mr.Davis{r.i.p} would of hired himself,if he was ever going to get GM
January 5th, 2012 at 4:11 am
Sloppy Joe Says:
January 4th, 2012 at 9:57 pm
Raider J Says:
January 4th, 2012 at 9:51 pm
“He (DMc) was going to be out there practicing with us this Wednesday.” That’s the word from coach Hue Jackson, anyway.
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what the fck he even say that for, that just opened up a can of schit.
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Yeah, that was a strange thing to bring up–like it mattered at this point?!
I think that was Hue trying to show he’s in control of the whole show–which he isn’t.
January 5th, 2012 at 4:11 am
The powerhouse of the NFL is built by Raider ppl and here we are still suckin,its just so weird man Mark needs to do anything he can to bring them ALL home so hes surrounded by Raider people..Winston Eliot Reggie all of them
January 5th, 2012 at 4:13 am
Q: Seems that now Hue Jackson getting involved in everything, even wants to be involved in hiring of a GM. How involved should he be in that process?
Wolf: Again, this is an area I’m not familiar with. I really don’t know Hue Jackson at all other than by reputation, and I would think the hiring of a general manager is in the auspices of the owner, certainly not the head football coach. If the head football coach wants to be in it, why not the head of marketing or the head of personnel, not personnel, public relations. You could run down the whole gamut of who should be in there, but I would think that’s the owner’s bailiwick and the owner should take care of it. And it sounds to me, what I’ve heard, is the owner is going to take care of that.
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As I said two days ago, who the hell ever heard of a head coach hiring and/or picking who the general manager would be?
January 5th, 2012 at 4:19 am
As Jerry points out, Herock has been around a lot more than Wolf but it’s likely that both, like Madden, are just there as friends of Al.
Herock was personnel director under Ron Wolf for seven years so both have a lot to offer but, like Madden, they’re in their seventies and busy getting worse at golf day by day.
They’re all they’re just to help Mark Davis find a good manager and from the sound of it Mark Davis has plenty of Al in him and the process is in hand.
January 5th, 2012 at 4:27 am
Q: Is Mark Davis the type that wants to be front and center, wants to be out there, or does he want to be behind the curtain?
Wolf: I think what Mark Davis’ deal is, he wants to bring the Raiders back to where they were, the glory years of the 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s. I think that’s what he wants to do. I also think he’s smart enough to realize what he can and cannot do, what he’s capable of and what he isn’t capable of. So I think, rather than putting himself in the limelight, I would think that he is going to hire people that would enable him to bring out the best in the Raiders. He knows, I believe, Mark is smart enough to know what he can do, and he will only help in areas that he can help in. I don’t think he feels that he needs to be the front line guy here.
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I’m starting to like what I’m hearing about Mark Davis.
He’s not going to be the hands-on 24/7 coach that Al was but it sounds to me as if he’s got some of that fuk off attitude that Al Davis had.
It also sounds like he’s seeking out the advice of people we all trust like Madden, Wolf, Herock to find the best general manager to do what his dad was so good at.
January 5th, 2012 at 4:43 am
I hope the Raiders are a fit for McKenzie…
Hire him… .. Let’s get this mess fixed…..
January 5th, 2012 at 4:50 am
Reading between the lines stuff…
1) Wolf: Well, if you’re a GM coming in, you have to realize there’s only 31 of those jobs. So if you want a job, obviously, you’re not going to get a job with a top-notch operation from a won-loss standpoint because they’re doing well. They’re not going to change. So you’re opportunity is in this particular end here, where they don’t have somebody. So you have to weigh that. Do you really want to be a general manager? And if you do, do when the opportunity presents itself, you have to bite the bullet and run with it.
—Sounds like he’s advised McKenzie as well to basically bite the bullet and accept the Raiders job, because a window of opportunity to finally become General Manager has arrived, in the form it has arrived (another team) so take it.
Wolf: So it will be whatever’s most appealing to him. And fortunately for the Raiders, if they’re able to get someone the caliber of Reggie McKenzie that’s a big plus.
—The “fortunately” bit sounds like it means he will or has accepted pending confirmation.
January 5th, 2012 at 5:10 am
Yes… McKenzie knows our draft situation… He knows the problems were having ( been having)…he knows what we expect……. And he knows how to do it….
Man.. I’ve got my hopes up…… And being a Raider ( former) I think the loyalty is there…
.. Sign the contract…. Please..
January 5th, 2012 at 5:33 am
Just saw Reggie has a twin brother Raleigh..was getting them mixed up..make sure you interview the right one.
January 5th, 2012 at 5:34 am
As I posted yesterday, the rule around front office hirings is that we CAN sign him immediately if we give him full control of the roster and the draft. If we don’t then we have to wait till the Packers season is over. I imagine Mark will give him full control, but they have a problem with Hue’s contract and/or willingness to accept that. So, either they’re gonna remove Hue to enable that, or, working on a contract re-structure with Hue (trying to talk him to accept), or, they’ll let McKenzie finish his stint with the Packers.
January 5th, 2012 at 5:42 am
I think Hue is fighting for his job. He knows that team wolf/madden/Herock is headhunting.
I would bet my left nut that team wmh has advised Mark to hire a competent GM and let him make all the decisions.
If Hue lets go of any power he has and accepts his role as HC, he may stay for a year. But if he starts waving his johnson around he will be calling the pimp hand for a job.
January 5th, 2012 at 6:30 am
This Reggie McKenzie talk better come to fruition, I can’t take any more letdowns.
January 5th, 2012 at 7:04 am
Carl Weathers Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 6:30 am
This Reggie McKenzie talk better come to fruition, I can’t take any more letdowns.
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Second that motion, all those in favor…
January 5th, 2012 at 7:05 am
Oh and Mr. McKensie sign your man, Mr. Flynn.
January 5th, 2012 at 7:06 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
75.RaiderRetribution Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 7:04 am
Carl Weathers Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 6:30 am
This Reggie McKenzie talk better come to fruition, I can’t take any more letdowns.
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Second that motion, all those in favor…
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Count me in!!!
January 5th, 2012 at 7:08 am
I would think the hiring of a general manager is in the auspices of the owner, certainly not the head football coach. If the head football coach wants to be in it, why not the head of marketing or the head of personnel, not personnel, public relations. You could run down the whole gamut of who should be in there, but I would think that’s the owner’s bailiwick and the owner should take care of it. And it sounds to me, what I’ve heard, is the owner is going to take care of that. – Ron Wolf
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this is EXACTLY what I wanted to hear.
great news for Raider Nation
January 5th, 2012 at 7:12 am
Deja Vu Says:
They should just let Hue sit in for the first few minutes of the interview, then send him on a beer run or something.
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I think Hue drinks Irish whiskey, or Baileys. Something like that. There was talk of his Irish coffee drinking habits not long ago.
January 5th, 2012 at 7:13 am
MATT MILLEN IS AN EX-RAIDER ALSO..JUST SAY’N.ALREADY PROOVED HE WAS IN OVER HIS HEAD ALSO IMO.MCKENZIE IS THE CHOICE HERE I THINK..
January 5th, 2012 at 7:13 am
I thought i was the only one hard on Routt. LoL Check out this letter a fan wrote.
By K.C. Dermody
I received more than a few emails this week from fans who have been so upset about the defensive staff that they’ve been sending letters to the front office for weeks asking for Bresnhan’s firing. Gary Nystrom, a fan from Northern Idaho, wrote to Carol Davis, the widow of the late owner, Al Davis. Nystrom remarked in his second letter to the business office on December 18, “I called on Ms. Trask to remove Chuck Bresnahan as our defensive coordinator. I am now again calling on you to immediately fire him. Many of our losses such as today’s game have been contributed to poor defensive play calling. In addition to the firing of Coach Bresnahan, I am calling on the immediate cutting/benching of Stanford Routt. Routt has been a deterrent to our winning defense with the many penalties he has had. Again, just look at today’s game in the fourth quarter where he was clearly holding onto the receiver instead of playing the ball. I believe we should be looking at the performance of the entire defense and making the necessary changes which will make us stronger. In other words, our defense stinks!”
January 5th, 2012 at 7:13 am
Q: How best describe his day to day interpersonal skills? Intense, pragmatic, etc.?
Wolf: He functions very well. First of all, he’s a linebacker, and I think anyone understands the temperment of a linebacker. They are a little bit different breed.
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maybe Reggie can slap the smirk off of Rolando’s face?
“take a paycut or i’ll play MLB myself!”
January 5th, 2012 at 7:14 am
Carl Weathers Says:
This Reggie McKenzie talk better come to fruition, I can’t take any more letdowns.
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Agreed, but I have an uneasy feeling about this. I don’t trust Hue not to throw a wrench in this somehow. I’m preparing mentally for that letdown.
And it could be at least a month before we know, if GB makes it to the Super Bowl again.
January 5th, 2012 at 7:15 am
RT & DV,
what are chicks drinking these days?
wine coolers? zima?
I bet Hue Jax is into that sorta thing…
January 5th, 2012 at 7:19 am
Q: you talked about Reggie in November, was that the last time you had contact with Mark?
Wolf: No, that’s not the last time
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haha!
Wolf still has a little Raider in him, doesn’t he?
January 5th, 2012 at 7:21 am
K.C. Dermody needs to slow his role.
cut Chuck B and bench Stan Routt?
let’s not get carried away.
the season just ended 4 days ago.
January 5th, 2012 at 7:22 am
Not sure if they still make Zima anymore, but i can picture Hue drinking a frozen Margarita or a Martini at Chili’s after work. Getting all silly, blowing the pit of the olive from his drink across the room.
January 5th, 2012 at 7:22 am
“I really don’t know Hue Jackson at all other than by reputation” – Ron Wolf
I wish he would elaborate on that a bit. What is Hue’s reputation around the league?
would be nice to hear from people ‘in the know’
January 5th, 2012 at 7:24 am
i can picture Hue drinking a frozen Margarita or a Martini at Chili’s after work. Getting all silly, blowing the pit of the olive from his drink across the room
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LOL!
January 5th, 2012 at 7:28 am
ROCKSTAR,POST-86,WHY WAIT ? HUE IS ALLREADY MOVING PLAYERS AROUND ON DEFENSE (HUFF)
January 5th, 2012 at 7:28 am
RR,
I think KC Dermody is a female, and that was just an angry fan letter to Carol Davis that was sent in to her to share.
Regardless of that, i don’t see any harm in letting Chuck go today. His replacement doesn’t have to be brought in this week, wait till the season is over.
January 5th, 2012 at 7:34 am
I’m still waiting on Chuck B’s firing! What is taking so long? I thought Hue said he will evaluate the staff already? Does he think Chuck B’s passion for the game (in which he has said before) is gonna cut it for next year? I friggen hope not!
January 5th, 2012 at 7:37 am
You can listen to the Ron Wolf interview here:
http://957thegame.com/pages/10488610.php
January 5th, 2012 at 7:39 am
As I said a few days ago, if you’re gonna keep Hue Jax as HC no matter what … hire Matt Millen as GM and retain Chuck B as DC!
we’re basically saying it’s ok to settle for mediocrity. give the job to somebody who wants it with a little experience
January 5th, 2012 at 7:40 am
Is there any play off games that ya’ll may be interested in watching this weekend?
A good friend of mine is a die hard Detroit fan and i think he’s the only one on the entire east coast. LOL So i’m hoping Detroit can pull off an upset in NO this weekend. Highly unlikely though.
Also i like Hou over Cincy. That’s as far as Hou goes though, they don’t have the firepower to beat Balt or NE in their house.
January 5th, 2012 at 7:44 am
LET ME KNOW WHO”S IN THE SUPER BOWL..THEN I’LL DECIDE IF I WILL WATCH THAT OR NOT..
January 5th, 2012 at 7:47 am
96.DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 7:44 am
LET ME KNOW WHO”S IN THE SUPER BOWL..THEN I’LL DECIDE IF I WILL WATCH THAT OR NOT..
Exactly!
January 5th, 2012 at 7:51 am
94.RaiderRockstar Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 7:39 am
As I said a few days ago, if you’re gonna keep Hue Jax as HC no matter what … hire Matt Millen as GM and retain Chuck B as DC!
we’re basically saying it’s ok to settle for mediocrity. give the job to somebody who wants it with a little experience
Uggghh! that just made me wanna pilk! But I hear what you’re saying!
January 5th, 2012 at 7:51 am
Mark Davis is the chosen one.
He will lead this organization beyond it’s past glory.
Long Live Mark Davis.
January 5th, 2012 at 7:53 am
You are the chosen one! You were supposed to destroy the AFC West, not lead us to darkness!
January 5th, 2012 at 7:53 am
Great interview, by the way.
January 5th, 2012 at 8:14 am
You are the chosen one! You were supposed to destroy the AFC West, not lead us to darkness!
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LOL. Hwnrdr thought JDB was the answer?
my guy was Andrew Walter!
January 5th, 2012 at 8:22 am
Seymour Bush Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 12:12 am
beach Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 12:01 am
This GM decision will impact the Raiders for at least the next 10 years! Getting the right GM and DC is the top priority now.
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McKenzie is a fantastic potential candidate. Polian is a fantastic proven candidate. I hope they interview both.
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Bill Polian is old. 69-70 years old.
I heard the real reason the Colts let him go is because he wanted to start handing over his duties to his son Chris Polian and the owner wasn’t comfortable with that, so really, you would not be hiring Bill Polian, you would be hiring his son, Chris to run the team.
I don’t know much about Chris, so I am not saying that would be a bad thing, but to believe you are going to get much more than a year or two out of Bill Polian would be a mistaken belief.
January 5th, 2012 at 8:24 am
Unrestricted FAs
69 Khalif Barnes OT
56 Darryl Blackstock OLB/MLB
7 Kyle Boller QB
33 Tyvon Branch SS
29 Michael Bush RB
8 Jason Campbell QB
25 Rock Cartwright RB
27 Matt Giordano SS/FS
52 Quentin Groves OLB
75 Stephon Heyer OT
84 T. J. Houshmandzadeh WR
94 Jarvis Moss DE
64 Samson Satele C
81 Chaz Schilens WR
91 Trevor Scott DE
21 Lito Sheppard CB
Restricted FAs
90 Desmond Bryant DT/DE
Exclusive-Rights FAs
30 Jerome Boyd SS/OLB
95 Mason Brodine DE
32 Bryan McCann CB
45 Marcel Reece FB
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Interesting !!!
January 5th, 2012 at 8:25 am
I thought Josh Booty was the chosen one.
January 5th, 2012 at 8:29 am
Hmmmm, apparently the word p*ssy is not allowed around these parts… Let me try again.
How’d you get the beauty scar tough guy, eating p*ssy willows?
I wonder if the stuff about baileys and manicures caused the team to lose faith in their leader. Shoulda said he drank scotch and ripped his nails off with pliers!
January 5th, 2012 at 8:38 am
no love for McCown, Tui or Otis?
January 5th, 2012 at 8:43 am
Hue Jackson reminds me of a creeper who preys on new divorcees and widows the way he is trying to insert himself into every decision made concerning the Raiders after Al Davis’ death. What an ego this guy has. It will be interesting to see how his tune changes after a GM is hired and puts him in his place.
January 5th, 2012 at 8:44 am
It almost makes too much sense to bring in McKenzie, which makes me afraid they may drop the ball on this move. Instead of hitting the panic button on Hue, just simply bring in McKenzie and hopefully the first thing he does is instead of firing Hue, just let some the air out of his balloon, for Hue’s a good coach but his ego seems to be the biggest issue and it showed up in his playcalling at times. If Hue’s not on board with it then cut him loose. But I McKenzie would serve HueJax a slice of humble pie, he’ll fall back into his appointed role they’ll work fine together,,hopefully be able to pluck Winston Moss away from GB. Then McKenzie can get rid of the dead weight, and put everyone else on notice by letting it be understood that bs on and off the field won’t be tolerated and the Raiders will get the train rolling again so some of these troll posters can go away once and forall.
January 5th, 2012 at 8:57 am
Just Win Baby Says:
Hue Jackson reminds me of a creeper who preys on new divorcees and widows the way he is trying to insert himself into every decision made concerning the Raiders after Al Davis’ death. What an ego this guy has. It will be interesting to see how his tune changes after a GM is hired and puts him in his place.
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Pretty much how I view him too.
January 5th, 2012 at 8:57 am
Unrestricted FAs
69 Khalif Barnes OT ~ Resign if he can’t be replaced
56 Darryl Blackstock OLB/MLB ~ sign him or Groves
7 Kyle Boller QB ~ Bye
33 Tyvon Branch SS ~ Resign
29 Michael Bush RB ~ Resign or replace in FA
8 Jason Campbell QB ~ Apparently he wants nothing to do with Hue but I would like to keep him as a backup
25 Rock Cartwright RB ~ Resign
27 Matt Giordano SS/FS ~ Resign
52 Quentin Groves OLB ~ Resign him or Blackstock
75 Stephon Heyer OT ~ Resign or replace
84 T. J. Houshmandzadeh WR ~ Bye
94 Jarvis Moss DE ~ Resign cheap
64 Samson Satele C ~ Resign cheap
81 Chaz Schilens WR ~ Resign cheap
91 Trevor Scott DE ~ Bye
21 Lito Sheppard CB ~ Bye
Restricted FAs
90 Desmond Bryant DT/DE ~ Resign
Exclusive-Rights FAs
30 Jerome Boyd SS/OLB ~ Bye
95 Mason Brodine DE ~ Bye
32 Bryan McCann CB ~ Bye
45 Marcel Reece FB ~ Resign
January 5th, 2012 at 9:00 am
Carl Weathers Says:
81 Chaz Schilens WR ~ Resign cheap
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LOL really? You have to be in a small group of people that thinks that. Good riddance Glass Schilens.
January 5th, 2012 at 9:00 am
Marcel Reece was the most under-utilized weapon we had on offense. Shame on Hue for not getting him more involved.
January 5th, 2012 at 9:04 am
Shillens is a joke that this blog will be telling for years to come…..It’s hilarious how much we wanted him back from injury, and we had him all season and got Zilch outta the dude.
Shows you exactly what he was worth…Zip.
January 5th, 2012 at 9:19 am
Shillens is a joke that this blog will be telling for years to come…..It’s hilarious how much we wanted him back from injury, and we had him all season and got Zilch outta the dude.
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Chaz was active for 15 games and started 5.
23 catches for 271 yards and 2 TD’s.
Didn’t Jerry Mac call this guy our #1 WR in the offseason before Steve Cork replaced him ???
no wonder ‘Jer’ got demoted from blog pimp!
January 5th, 2012 at 9:21 am
Chaz is a league minimum caliber guy. If he can be signed for that amount, it doesnt hurt to have the guy on the team. He didn’t get a lot of playing time that I recall, which might be indicative of his weak stats, but it is probably also why he wasn’t injured this year. I think he’s interchangeable with about any other third string reciever in the league.
January 5th, 2012 at 9:23 am
LOL really? You have to be in a small group of people that thinks that. Good riddance Glass Schilens.
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The guy was healthy this year, caught most everything thrown his way and is a good blocker. Why not bring him back cheap for depth at a position that saw the top 3 guys out at times?
January 5th, 2012 at 9:24 am
Just Win Baby Says:
Marcel Reece was the most under-utilized weapon we had on offense.
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I could never figure that out. Reece is a matchup nightmare for defenses. Why did they not involve him more?
January 5th, 2012 at 9:27 am
Re-sign Matt Giordano?!?!?!!?
Are you high?
January 5th, 2012 at 9:29 am
Were looking at 2-3 new starters on the O-Line.
RG, RT & Whatever happens with Wiz/Satele
January 5th, 2012 at 9:31 am
Corteland Finnegan & Vernon Gholston should be targeted for the defense.
Could of had Gholston last year.
January 5th, 2012 at 9:34 am
Barksdale at RT, and grab a FA RG since Bruce Campbell can’t seem to grab a hold of it.
January 5th, 2012 at 9:36 am
This has the makings of our best and most important off season in 20 years.
Were an explosive up and coming team, with potentially a young hot shot GM.. Players will be more willing to come to Oakland.
Dont blow it Mark Davis.
January 5th, 2012 at 9:37 am
Whoever we get they need to have some dicsipline. I have never seen a team that lacked it as much as this team. It has to be a reflection on the coaches. How can you stress not being off sides at practice then in the game jump off sides? It makes no fvckin sense to me.
January 5th, 2012 at 9:38 am
119.DeuceDeuce Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 9:27 am
Re-sign Matt Giordano?!?!?!!?
Are you high?
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Huff moving to CB, leaves… Eugene coming off injury. Would you rather have Boyd?
I think you are high with this statement:
Vernon Gholston should be targeted for the defense.
January 5th, 2012 at 9:38 am
Pretty Rick Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 9:34 am
Barksdale at RT, and grab a FA RG since Bruce Campbell can’t seem to grab a hold of it.
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IDK.. I’d feel more comfortable signing a vet to man the right edge.. We’ve messed around and not really addressed that position for too long.
I’d like to see Barksdale on the inside at LG or RG
January 5th, 2012 at 9:38 am
Gholston,, don’t know about that one,,the Bears cut him loose after like 1 week of signing him. Unless it’s for depth.
January 5th, 2012 at 9:40 am
Carl Weathers Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 9:38 am
119.DeuceDeuce Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 9:27 am
Re-sign Matt Giordano?!?!?!!?
Are you high?
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Huff moving to CB, leaves… Eugene coming off injury. Would you rather have Boyd?
I think you are high with this statement:
Vernon Gholston should be targeted for the defense.
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ANYONE is better than Giordano
And I meant to write Dashon Gholston…
January 5th, 2012 at 9:40 am
Pretty Rick Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 9:38 am
Gholston,, don’t know about that one,,the Bears cut him loose after like 1 week of signing him. Unless it’s for depth.
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Dashon is who I meant, my bad.
January 5th, 2012 at 9:43 am
If you advocate for the re-signing or playing of Matt Giordano I cannot and will not take you seriously.
January 5th, 2012 at 9:43 am
Deuce,, the few times Barksdale was in he looked 10x better than Barnes. I think this coming season he’ll take it and run with it unless we can make another run for Gaither in the offseason,,I think he’s a FA again.
January 5th, 2012 at 9:45 am
Pretty Rick Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 9:43 am
Deuce,, the few times Barksdale was in he looked 10x better than Barnes. I think this coming season he’ll take it and run with it unless we can make another run for Gaither in the offseason,,I think he’s a FA again.
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I agree about Gaither. Lets not make that mistake twice.
I think Heyer looked better than Barksdale for the most part. He had the 1 game with like 3 off sides in a row, but other than that was more reliable.
January 5th, 2012 at 9:46 am
Gio would be a great re-signing . . . to the practice squad.
January 5th, 2012 at 9:47 am
RaidingTexas Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 9:46 am
Gio would be a great re-signing . . . to the practice squad.
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That’s not funny.
And quite disrespectful to the young talent on every practice squad in the NFL…
January 5th, 2012 at 9:47 am
Dashon,, cool with that. I still think Huff moving to cb is a waste of time since Chekwa is gona beat everyone not name Routt anyway.
January 5th, 2012 at 9:49 am
DeuceDeuce Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 9:43 am
If you advocate for the re-signing or playing of Matt Giordano I cannot and will not take you seriously.
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What do you suggest? Trade Reed or Polamalu?
January 5th, 2012 at 9:50 am
Trade for*
January 5th, 2012 at 9:50 am
Morning/afternoon peoples!
January 5th, 2012 at 9:50 am
Pretty Rick Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 9:47 am
Dashon,, cool with that. I still think Huff moving to cb is a waste of time since Chekwa is gona beat everyone not name Routt anyway.
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Exactly.
I’ve said for years that Huff couldnt play CB.. everyone always wanted him to. Couldnt understand it.
Im willing to be proven wrong by him, but I dont think he can play the postition.
January 5th, 2012 at 9:52 am
You know what, maybe we should let Branch walk and trade for both Reed AND Polamalu! Is that more up your alley?
January 5th, 2012 at 9:52 am
Carl Weathers Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 9:49 am
DeuceDeuce Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 9:43 am
If you advocate for the re-signing or playing of Matt Giordano I cannot and will not take you seriously.
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What do you suggest? Trade Reed or Polamalu?
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Dashon Gholston for one.
Anyone else for two.
Id rather see Rod Woodson come out of retirement than watch Matt Giordano, and his 5.9 40, miss another tackle or be completely out of position in coverage.
January 5th, 2012 at 9:54 am
Carl Weathers Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 9:52 am
You know what, maybe we should let Branch walk and trade for both Reed AND Polamalu! Is that more up your alley?
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Are you related to Giordano? Im sorry if so. If you cant understand why we shouldnt have him on the team then IDK what else to say to you.
January 5th, 2012 at 9:54 am
I’d rather give Zac Etheridge the spot then watch another Matt Giordano play.
January 5th, 2012 at 9:55 am
The most important move to make on the O-line is to move Weisnewski back to center. I don’t know how long its gona take for them realize that Satele ain’t cutting it.
January 5th, 2012 at 9:56 am
Personally I’d rather see Huff stay at safety and develop Chekwa or DVD. The guy has a hard enough time covering TE’s never mind WR’s full time.
The move reeks of desperation by our HC.
January 5th, 2012 at 9:56 am
Is Derrick Gibson available?… I’ll take him over Giordano also, and I refuse to call him “Gio”. Players that bad dont get cool little nicknames.
January 5th, 2012 at 9:58 am
I don’t know why Gio gets all this hate? (real head scratcher)
Yeah, he may not be the best tackler in the world, but the dude plays smart and has heart.
Led the team in INTS (5)
Gives it his ALL. (plays through injuries)
Wouldn’t mind seeing him resigned for depth purposes.
What did Huff give us this year? (NADA)
Not bad for a player who who signed at the beginning of camp as a 2nd-3rd stringer.
+ it only took him 1 season to learn the system
January 5th, 2012 at 9:58 am
Carl Weathers Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 9:56 am
Personally I’d rather see Huff stay at safety and develop Chekwa or DVD. The guy has a hard enough time covering TE’s never mind WR’s full time.
The move reeks of desperation by our HC.
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Agreed. 100%. Huff doesnt have the hips to play CB. Barely has em to play S. I dont understand the move.
We draft a bunch of youngsters the past couple years at CB, then make it harder on them to play? And create a void at S.
January 5th, 2012 at 9:59 am
Hey man, it’s sad to say but Giordano at least looked like he was trying out there on Sunday and most of the time when playing this season. Wish I could say the same for the rest of the pricks with the fat paychecks on D.
Bottom line is we can’t revamp the whole defense in one season. I’m not saying Gio should be our starter next year, just bring the guy back because our options are slim, especially if Huff is moved to the outside. You dig?
January 5th, 2012 at 10:01 am
DMAC Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 9:50 am
Morning/afternoon peoples!
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With that being said,
Well then………
FK u guys 2 this morning/afternoon
January 5th, 2012 at 10:01 am
Carl Weathers Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 9:59 am
Hey man, it’s sad to say but Giordano at least looked like he was trying out there on Sunday and most of the time when playing this season. Wish I could say the same for the rest of the pricks with the fat paychecks on D.
Bottom line is we can’t revamp the whole defense in one season. I’m not saying Gio should be our starter next year, just bring the guy back because our options are slim, especially if Huff is moved to the outside. You dig?
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Exactly!
January 5th, 2012 at 10:01 am
LOL!
He learned the system? His play didnt show it. He took worse angles than Schweigert.
He led the team with 5 INTs. Cool. Only the Denver one did he make a play, the others kind of were passes to him.
For every “play” he made there are at least 2 he didnt and it cost us huge chunks or TDs.
January 5th, 2012 at 10:02 am
Huff moving to CB, leaves… Eugene coming off injury. Would you rather have Boyd?
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Matty G snagged 5 INT’s in a limited role. we paid him the vet minimum for 1-year. I’ll be surprised if he doesn’t get offers elsewhere (for minimum salary)
the guy proved he belongs in the NFL.
by the way, Huff may not be moving to CB. Bresnahan, Biekert, Ross & Woodson may still have jobs too.
we have no idea. just because Hue says something doesn’t mean it’s going to happen. We don’t even know if he will be retained as HC!
if Wolf is correct… Mark will wait until he hires a GM. then that GM will decide Hue’s fate. then the GM and (insert HC here) will decide on what staffing & roster changes need to be made
I’m glad things are starting to be “normal” around here. for the first time EVER. Hue needs to butt out and keep his mouth shut until he meets with Mark, Amy and his new boss. Until then, expect John Herrera to put him in his place and deny any claims that he makes to the media
January 5th, 2012 at 10:02 am
Good morning DMAC!, I don’t know why but I never see your initial good mornin posts, just the FK U GUYS! LMAO!
January 5th, 2012 at 10:03 am
Gio is the product of hard work, dedication and pure hustle because he lacks in skills so he has to work hard.
If every one of our players on defense worked as hard as Gio we would be talking about our game this weekend instead of the draft.
Now does he have enough talent to be a starter, NO!
January 5th, 2012 at 10:04 am
Whatever Giordano “brings” to the team isnt enough to hold up a spot that could go to a younger, faster, better Safety.
Did you see him fly by Tolbert on that 40 yard run in the 4th?.. Literally flew by him.
January 5th, 2012 at 10:04 am
Deuce,
Not bad for a 2nd-3rd stringer!
Dude gave it his all!
Rather have someone out there giving it 110%, than these sorry ass over payed players collecting checks.
January 5th, 2012 at 10:05 am
“I’m glad things are starting to be “normal” around here. for the first time EVER. Hue needs to butt out and keep his mouth shut until he meets with Mark, Amy and his new boss. Until then, expect John Herrera to put him in his place and deny any claims that he makes to the media”
Nice post RRS
January 5th, 2012 at 10:05 am
What up Carl
January 5th, 2012 at 10:06 am
And I never questioned his heart, work ethic, toughness etc.. But come on.
January 5th, 2012 at 10:07 am
DMAC Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 10:04 am
Deuce,
Not bad for a 2nd-3rd stringer!
Dude gave it his all!
Rather have someone out there giving it 110%, than these sorry ass over payed players collecting checks.
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If there is such thing as a 3rd string Safety on your team you have serious problems.
January 5th, 2012 at 10:07 am
DeuceDeuce Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 10:04 am
Whatever Giordano “brings” to the team isnt enough to hold up a spot that could go to a younger, faster, better Safety.
Did you see him fly by Tolbert on that 40 yard run in the 4th?.. Literally flew by him.
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Where were all the other defenders in front of him?
Eating popcorn?
January 5th, 2012 at 10:08 am
DeuceDeuce Says:
He learned the system? His play didnt show it. He took worse angles than Schweigert.
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You leave Stu out of this, Jacobite!
January 5th, 2012 at 10:09 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
If every one of our players on defense worked as hard as Gio we would be talking about our game this weekend instead of the draft.
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What draft?
January 5th, 2012 at 10:10 am
DeuceDeuce Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 10:07 am
DMAC Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 10:04 am
Deuce,
Not bad for a 2nd-3rd stringer!
Dude gave it his all!
Rather have someone out there giving it 110%, than these sorry ass over payed players collecting checks.
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If there is such thing as a 3rd string Safety on your team you have serious problems.
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2nd-3rd-4th string, it doesn’t matter.
He wasn’t signed to be the starter.
He was signed to give us depth and thats exactly what he did.
Safeties on the team at the begining of the season.
Huff, Eugene, Branch, Ndookie, Boyd, Gio and on and on and on.
January 5th, 2012 at 10:11 am
Given that most of the coaches on defense will be gone next year, who decided to move Huff to CB?
Hue or Woodson?
If Woodson, then this is his project and he expects to be retained by the Raiders.
If Hue, then he expects the GM will share and support his evaluation.
If the GM is Reggie McKenzie, his evaluation of Huff might not mirror Hue’s/Woodson’s and the drama for power and control begins…
Sweet.
January 5th, 2012 at 10:14 am
Forgot MM.
January 5th, 2012 at 10:17 am
Only the Denver one did he make a play, the others kind of were passes to him.
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Ever heard of being at the right place at the right time.
It’s called playing smart and knowing your coverages. You think all players w/ ints make a play on the ball everytime?
Get real!
January 5th, 2012 at 10:18 am
POST-113 SHOULD BE TATOO’D ON HUE’S 4HEAD..
January 5th, 2012 at 10:19 am
FVCK this Giordano talk, IS CHUCK BREASTEDMAN FIRED YET?!
January 5th, 2012 at 10:22 am
DMAC! What’s up brother?
January 5th, 2012 at 10:22 am
Carl Weathers Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 10:19 am
FVCK this Giordano talk, IS CHUCK BREASTEDMAN FIRED YET?!
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I’ll end it, but people on here seem like their using him as the goat on the D.
There were more serious issues on the D.
January 5th, 2012 at 10:24 am
hwnrdr Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 10:22 am
DMAC! What’s up brother?
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Schiiiiit, as soon as I started to get over my Raiders season hangover, the Warriors gave me a punch in the gut.
But other than that, I’m cool.
Wassup w/ u?
January 5th, 2012 at 10:25 am
Oh nothing much…just sitting here at work, taking a break from the system! Numbers, admin things…gotta rest a bit!
January 5th, 2012 at 10:26 am
Yeah, we don’t need know melt downs.
January 5th, 2012 at 10:27 am
DMAC Says:
There were more serious issues on the D.
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Agreed. Not as concerned about a less talented guy who tries hard (Gio) as I am a guy who acted like he didn’t give a sh!t half the time (McClain).
January 5th, 2012 at 10:27 am
no
my bad
typing hella fast
January 5th, 2012 at 10:28 am
Carl, what up Appollo Creed?? Some may not know that you played for the Silver & Black for a short stint..
January 5th, 2012 at 10:28 am
RaidingTexas Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 10:27 am
DMAC Says:
There were more serious issues on the D.
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Agreed. Not as concerned about a less talented guy who tries hard (Gio) as I am a guy who acted like he didn’t give a sh!t half the time (McClain).
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Thats why I’m saying.
Where were these dudes all season long?
Kelly, McClain, Seymour etc.
January 5th, 2012 at 10:29 am
Money talks.
January 5th, 2012 at 10:30 am
172.DMAC Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 10:22 am
I’ll end it, but people on here seem like their using him as the goat on the D.
There were more serious issues on the D.
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Raiders D has:
2 good DEs (Huston, Shonasty)
.75 Good DT (Seymour)
.5 Solid Run stopping DT (Hendu)
1 Pass rushing LB (Wimbley)
1 NFL Safety (Branch)
1 CB who should be a backup but is paid as a top tier CB (Routt)
Everyone else is just balast.
January 5th, 2012 at 10:30 am
All this Hue HAS to be fired talk is hilarious. Dude was in his first year at a gig where the leadership foundation (which was a one man foundation, but a foundation nonetheless) literally died. Yeah, his ego got a little too big for his own britches sometimes, but the responsibility of being forced into a leadership/forefront position with Mark laying low-key through most of the drama isn’t easy for a first-timer. The only reason we got to see all these sides of Hue is because we had no shield for him like other teams/orgs do. Would’ve been nice for Amy or Mark to take the podium/stand thru all the drama this season but they didn’t. Hue was as much their guinea pig as he was the head-coach playing GM. Cut the guy some slack. Now if he gets fired, cool; can’t say it isn’t warranted on some behalf, but for ya’ll hollering he HAS to get fired; get real. The only person who needs to be fired right now is Chucky B, and the fire sale needs to start as soon as our new GM is hired.
January 5th, 2012 at 10:32 am
Before moving Huff to corner, they should consider moving Houston in the middle. Get rid of that over payed lazy ass Kelly.
January 5th, 2012 at 10:32 am
True, true #182… Why p!ss and moan over something you have no control over… Hey, wait, thats what this blog is all about!…lol
January 5th, 2012 at 10:34 am
178.Raider-in-PA Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 10:28 am
Carl, what up Appollo Creed?? Some may not know that you played for the Silver & Black for a short stint..
Yes he was, for a year or two way back when…early 70’s? Or late 60’s…too long ago!
January 5th, 2012 at 10:34 am
176.RaidingTexas Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 10:27 am
DMAC Says:
There were more serious issues on the D.
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Agreed. Not as concerned about a less talented guy who tries hard (Gio) as I am a guy who acted like he didn’t give a sh!t half the time (McClain).
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That’s what I’m talkin about! I just went down the list of FA’s noted Gio should be resigned. Some think that means I want the guy starting.
January 5th, 2012 at 10:35 am
And who knows guys…Gio may get better!
January 5th, 2012 at 10:35 am
Oh man, just heard that the reason there is no news coming out of Alameda about the Raiders right now is because Mark Davis and Amy Trask are negotiating to sell the Raiders to the Anschutz Entertainment Group, the same group who is planning on building a stadium in down town LA.
The Anschtz Group wants to make the call on the next GM if they are going to buy the team.
January 5th, 2012 at 10:36 am
178.Raider-in-PA Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 10:28 am
Carl, what up Appollo Creed?? Some may not know that you played for the Silver & Black for a short stint..
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That’s why I fly the handle bro. Appollo, Agent Dillon, that dude with the fake arm in happy Gilmore and LB for the S&B! Dude is a legend!
January 5th, 2012 at 10:36 am
188.Dakota Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 10:35 am
Oh man, just heard that the reason there is no news coming out of Alameda about the Raiders right now is because Mark Davis and Amy Trask are negotiating to sell the Raiders to the Anschutz Entertainment Group, the same group who is planning on building a stadium in down town LA.
The Anschtz Group wants to make the call on the next GM if they are going to buy the team.
Dakota, you better be FN lying!
January 5th, 2012 at 10:36 am
DUDE!!! Dakota, I hope you’re BS’ing!
January 5th, 2012 at 10:37 am
Do I ever BS?
January 5th, 2012 at 10:37 am
Yesterday, around 8AM, I was watching either ESPN when a “Breaking News” flashed on the bottom line. It said, “Raiders Fire Defensive Coordinator Chuck Bresnahan…other defensive coaches being evaluated”. I waited for a long time – it never showed back up, nor did the “talking heads” elaborate!
I checked every website I could think of….then looked at this blog figuring it would be reported…..NOTHING! Only a report that Hue announces Huff is moving to corner! How could he announce a move like that knowing a new GM will be on board? Flexing muscles? Trying to show whoever the new GM might be – and the rest of the world – that he is still head coach? Did he leak the firing of Bresnahan then have his hand slapped? ESPN pubishing rumor as fact again….and got their hand slapped?
January 5th, 2012 at 10:39 am
Lol, you guys can stop googling now….I was just kidding.
January 5th, 2012 at 10:41 am
I think the Huff to CB idea will fizzle out and when OTA’s start it will be a distant memory. One of the young corners will step up, or we’ll grab someone via FA. Hue was just running off at the mouth and frustrated at the time. Does he ever do anything he promises?
January 5th, 2012 at 10:42 am
194.Dakota Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 10:39 am
Lol, you guys can stop googling now….I was just kidding.
That is why I wait awhile…lol…but stop it, that gave me a heart attack!
January 5th, 2012 at 10:48 am
DMAC Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 10:07 am
DeuceDeuce Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 10:04 am
Whatever Giordano “brings” to the team isnt enough to hold up a spot that could go to a younger, faster, better Safety.
Did you see him fly by Tolbert on that 40 yard run in the 4th?.. Literally flew by him.
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Where were all the other defenders in front of him?
Eating popcorn?
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Ive never seen anyone else on our team, with a clear line shot at a ball carrier, literally go flying through the air right in front of him, and end up on the sideline as everyone else runs down field.
Everyone else was being blocked or pursuing. Not saying they did everything. Were talking about Giordano, not anyone else.
January 5th, 2012 at 10:49 am
Good morning NATION!!!
January 5th, 2012 at 10:50 am
Now Tommy Kelly is lazy. Interesting.
January 5th, 2012 at 10:51 am
If Tommy Kelly is lazy, McClain must be sleep walking.
January 5th, 2012 at 10:51 am
Raiders were 4-1 in the games Gio got his 5 INT’s in.
And why is everyone so focused on him? He missed one game completely (KC loss) had to leave early in the Den home game, and started only 9 games in total.
When you factor in how much he was on the field, to his production, it might be about higher than every other defender.
Lito, DVD, CJ37 and Chekwe were all on the field a ton combined, what did they give us? MM34 and Boyd, what did they give us? Trevor Scott?
Gio will be resigned, and hopefully not starting 9 games next year.
January 5th, 2012 at 10:52 am
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Tommy Kelly isnt lazy per se. As long as chasing the QB is the goal he is all about it. But with him at DT we have consistently been at or near the bottom of the league in stopping the run. He also jumps off sides WAY too much. I would say he’s undisciplined and doesnt care about doing his actual job, just wants to sack the QB. I’ve never liked him, and I bet his attitude stinks.
January 5th, 2012 at 10:53 am
Deuce Deuce after reading #197, I think you’re beef with Gio runs deeper than anything on the playing field. You keep mentioning that ONE missed tackle. There isn’t a player on the D that couldn’t be called out for at least one HORRIBLY missed tackle, angle etc.
Resign Gio for depth and to piss off deucedeuce. OK, now I’m done on the subject.
January 5th, 2012 at 10:56 am
MM34, now there’s player that I could understand someone harping on for missed tackles and so on.
January 5th, 2012 at 10:57 am
DeuceDeuce Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 10:51 am
If Tommy Kelly is lazy, McClain must be sleep walking.
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He is.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:00 am
Carl Weathers Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 10:53 am
Deuce Deuce after reading #197, I think you’re beef with Gio runs deeper than anything on the playing field. You keep mentioning that ONE missed tackle. There isn’t a player on the D that couldn’t be called out for at least one HORRIBLY missed tackle, angle etc.
Resign Gio for depth and to piss off deucedeuce. OK, now I’m done on the subject.
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That ONE tackle was in the biggest game of the season, on the biggest defensive series of the season.
And the countless OTHER missed tackles and poor angles led to TDs or huge gains. Not hard to understand that.
How bout all the TDs in the passing game he gave up. The deep ball to Calvin Johnson that McClain was covering? That was supposed to be “Gio” with the help.
Etc etc.. Its laughable that people think he can play.
I wonder what our record is in games he took horrible angles and gave up TDs?.. Look that one up JFB.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:00 am
Jeez, Gio lead the team in int’s and was a vocal leader on the defense. The guy plays hard and is probably one of the only guys I have seen screaming and rallying players on the bench.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:01 am
Here’s what McElroy had to say about his coworkers in NY. One and done, Rex won’t put up with that. Sad but true, sounds like some of the guys in our locker room.
“It’s definitely not a fun place to be, I can assure you,” McElroy said. “It’s the first time I’ve ever been around extremely selfish individuals, and I think that’s maybe the nature of the NFL. But there were people within our locker room that didn’t care whether we won or lost, as long as they got their … they really had good games individually. That’s the disappointing thing, and it’s going to take a lot to kind of come together.”
January 5th, 2012 at 11:01 am
MM34, now there’s player that I could understand someone harping on for missed tackles and so on.
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The “Missile” is like a sacred cow in here.
He can do no wrong, no matter how hard he tries.
The guys is abysmal defensively, and let Goodman run right past him on the TD this past weekend, as the “Missile” wimped out on taking on the blocker and filling the lane.
If he at least collide’s with the blocker, and it gets in the way, Goodman has to at least break stride and probably get tackled at mid-field.
Of course, that might have just allowed our defense to add 50 more yards to their day totals, lol.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:02 am
He was a starting or majority snap Safety who gave up countless big plays and TDs on ONE OF THE WORST DEFENSES EVER IN THE HISTORY OF THE NFL.
Oh but he sure does try hard. How’d that work out again.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:02 am
How bout all the TDs in the passing game he gave up. The deep ball to Calvin Johnson that McClain was covering? That was supposed to be “Gio” with the help.
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That was McClain and Boyd.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:03 am
I wonder what our record is in games he took horrible angles and gave up TDs?.. Look that one up JFB.
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He pretty much missed two games, and we lost both.
So, 8-6 than?
January 5th, 2012 at 11:05 am
Gio has more heart than over half the D. Seymore is makin 17 million and wouldn’t say Sheet if he had a mouthful. Our defense sucks and we need guys like Gio. Not sayin as a starter but just attitude alone!
January 5th, 2012 at 11:05 am
morilla Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 11:02 am
How bout all the TDs in the passing game he gave up. The deep ball to Calvin Johnson that McClain was covering? That was supposed to be “Gio” with the help.
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That was McClain and Boyd.
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I’ll take your word for it. I know “Gio” was on the field that play though. The infamous 3 safety look from Bresnahan.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:05 am
Giordano is the best backup FS you’re going to find on the FA market.
Look at the FS position in free agency. There’s nothing there. And it’s not like the Raiders have anything draft pick-wise they could invest in the position.
Giordano has his faults, as all backups do. That’s why they’re backups. But he’s also capable of making plays (and let’s face it, few STARTERS on the Raiders defense made plays this season). He’s as good as you’re going to find if you’re looking for depth at S.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:05 am
All this Hue HAS to be fired talk is hilarious
for ya’ll hollering he HAS to get fired; get real. The only person who needs to be fired right now is Chucky B, and the fire sale needs to start as soon as our new GM is hired.
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Bleeder,
I think Chuck B’s defense was good enough to take us to the playoffs if Seymour, Henderson, CJ37 & Huff weren’t injured. McClain didn’t have the legal distractions. CJ37 didn’t have the family crisis. ShoNasty & Chekwa on I.R.
it’s not like Chuck B inherited a good run defense and it tanked under him. it’s been awful from 2004-2010 when he had nothing to do with it!
did we really expect to pitch the #1 CB in the NFL and not drop a bit in pass defense? especially with a rookie 3rd rounder (DVD) and a guy off the street (Sheppard) filling in ???
January 5th, 2012 at 11:06 am
He was a starting or majority snap Safety who gave up countless big plays and TDs on ONE OF THE WORST DEFENSES EVER IN THE HISTORY OF THE NFL.
Oh but he sure does try hard. How’d that work out again.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:09 am
YoungAmerican Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 11:05 am
Giordano is the best backup FS you’re going to find on the FA market.
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*spits out drink*
The best….backup…
What?..
This is the same guy who 31 other teams had no use for right?..oh ok. But he tries hard.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:09 am
Bleeder,
I think Chuck B’s defense was good enough to take us to the playoffs if Seymour, Henderson, CJ37 & Huff weren’t injured. McClain didn’t have the legal distractions. CJ37 didn’t have the family crisis. ShoNasty & Chekwa on I.R.
it’s not like Chuck B inherited a good run defense and it tanked under him. it’s been awful from 2004-2010 when he had nothing to do with it!
did we really expect to pitch the #1 CB in the NFL and not drop a bit in pass defense? especially with a rookie 3rd rounder (DVD) and a guy off the street (Sheppard) filling in ???
That D was not good enough to take Granny to the early bird special for F.. sake. That was the worst defensive effort I have seen from a Raider team in 45 years. At least act like you give a crap1
January 5th, 2012 at 11:09 am
Ok Deuce Deuce. Try to populate an NFL roster with 52 players who are capable NFL starters. Let me know how that works out for you.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:10 am
His screaming on the sideline sure did work too huh?..
No one is going to listen to a scrub who has never been good tell them what to do.
But he tries hard.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:11 am
*spits out drink*
The best….backup…
What?..
This is the same guy who 31 other teams had no use for right?..oh ok. But he tries hard.
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Do some research on the guys who are FAs.
Remember how much money the Raiders have to spend in free agency.
Remember how many draft picks the Raiders have to dedicate to bringing in new talent.
If you can find a better depth player at FS than Giordano, I’d be very interested to hear it.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:12 am
The only reason Gio was on the field as much as he was, because the players in front of him either were hurt, or failed more than he did.
FACT
January 5th, 2012 at 11:13 am
If anything, you should be pissed at the caliber of the STARTERS on the defensive side.
Backup FS is the least of the Raiders’ problems. Especially when your backup FS is a well-liked veteran who lead your entire team in INTs.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:16 am
So someone who leads the DBs in interceptions is a scrub?
How missed tackles or angles did Mitchell or the rest of the secondary blow? How many penalties did Routt have this year? How many TDs and passes did Routt give up this year? What about Boyd? Kid gets so burt he needs Coppertone 150SPF.
Gio was the best out of all of them.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:16 am
YoungAmerican Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 11:09 am
Ok Deuce Deuce. Try to populate an NFL roster with 52 players who are capable NFL starters. Let me know how that works out for you.
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I’d just like to see the FA list read “And here are the Top 5 backups available”..
January 5th, 2012 at 11:18 am
@YoungAmerican and Just Fire Baby.
I agree with your assessment of Gio, but what is your opinion on those safety blitzes late in the season? Seemed like Gio would sprint to the RB and then stop and play patti-cake with them?
January 5th, 2012 at 11:19 am
Who cares about what the other guys in the secondary did. Were talking about the great “Gio”.
The emotional leader and “tryer harder” on one of THE WORST DEFENSES IN THE HISTORY ON THE NFL.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:20 am
You must not be reading the part where I point out that the entire defense was statistically ONE OF THE WORST EVER.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:23 am
Chargers fired defensive Coordinator Greg Manusky and we still haven’t fired our D- Coord, we ROCK!!!!
January 5th, 2012 at 11:24 am
There should be our LBs coach if/when we switch to 3-4. Manusky is a good ball coach.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:26 am
Has a history with Nolan also. Makes sense if we go that route.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:26 am
“Chargers fired defensive Coordinator Greg Manusky and we still haven’t fired our D- Coord, we ROCK!!!!”
My guess is that we are waiting for the GM to come in first then we will clean house.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:27 am
Raider Dell Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 11:23 am
Chargers fired defensive Coordinator Greg Manusky and we still haven’t fired our D- Coord, we ROCK!!!!
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Dell, let the GM get in place before the beheadings begin! If we fire the defensive staff before the GM is hired, then what else is the guy going to do all offseason? We have no draft picks and no cap space lol.
Throw the new GM a bone and let him make Chucky and crew walk the plank!
January 5th, 2012 at 11:28 am
I don’t think we will be seeing any shake ups until after the Super Bowl.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:29 am
I’d just like to see the FA list read “And here are the Top 5 backups available”..
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Try to keep up, won’t you?
Look at the list of free safeties about to hit free agency.
Michael Griffin – will be retained by the Titans as a starter. Pretty much the exact same player as Michael Huff. Not a viable option for the Raiders.
Chris Harris – cut by the Bears after giving up too many big plays due to poor coverage and shoddy tackling, and continued to do the same with the Lions. Marginal player who will want more than the veteran minimum, which is what Giordano is signed for. He’ll also want a chance to start. Not a viable option for the Raiders.
Brandon Merriweather – Inconsistent player and locker room cancer who will command more than the veteran minimum. Not a viable option for the Raiders.
The rest? Dashon Goldson and Thomas DeCoud will want to be starters and will cost more than Giordano. Tanard Jackson led the league in missed tackles. Are Mike Adams, Madieu Williams, and Paul Oliver clear upgrades over Giordano?
Singling out Giordano, a low-cost veteran backup who led the team in picks, when the STARTERS on defense are what needs to be addressed is absolutely idiotic.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:29 am
or the NFC Championship game.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:29 am
Bringing in McKenzie sounds great, but who is this Eliot Wolf dude?? This nepotism bullschitt in the NFL (Brian Shottenheimer, Kyle Shanahan, Chris Polian, Todd Haley) really rubs me the wrong way. If he’s any good, all for it. But I’m not sold on him just because Grandpa Wolf says so.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:30 am
Dell,
Given how well Bynum is playing right now, would the Lakers even benefit from trading him and some picks for Howard? (assume we keep Gasol)
My gut says make the trade and watch as Bynum gets another knee injury in orlando. If this team loses Bynum right now, we are lottery bound. I think Bynum is a much better offensive player than Dwight, but I will take Dwight for 80 games a season over Bynum for 35…..
January 5th, 2012 at 11:31 am
I feel like a sucker for doing your research for you, Deuce Deuce.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:32 am
Lito, DVD, CJ37 and Chekwe were all on the field a ton combined, what did they give us? MM34 and Boyd, what did they give us? Trevor Scott?
Gio will be resigned
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Agreed with JFB!
January 5th, 2012 at 11:33 am
So were going off a FA list and the season hasnt even ended yet. And your telling ME to keep up. Gotcha.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:34 am
RaiderDebo Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 11:29 am
Bringing in McKenzie sounds great, but who is this Eliot Wolf dude?? This nepotism bullschitt in the NFL (Brian Shottenheimer, Kyle Shanahan, Chris Polian, Todd Haley) really rubs me the wrong way. If he’s any good, all for it. But I’m not sold on him just because Grandpa Wolf says so.
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Yeah, I don’t like that either. Generally, successful dudes marry trophy wives who are not very smart and therefore their kids are not quite on par with their Dads lol.
Mannings wife must have been a decent athlete….
January 5th, 2012 at 11:34 am
It’s not hard to find a list of expiring contracts. But please, keep deflecting, because your terrible argument doesn’t stand on its own.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:34 am
YoungAmerican Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 11:31 am
I feel like a sucker for doing your research for you, Deuce Deuce.
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You should feel like a sucker for the things you say.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:35 am
YoungAmerican Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 11:34 am
It’s not hard to find a list of expiring contracts. But please, keep deflecting, because your terrible argument doesn’t stand on its own.
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Is there a list of potential cuts? Salary dumps?
What am I deflecting?
January 5th, 2012 at 11:36 am
If you don’t want to take an objective look at what’s practical for the Raiders, and want to spend your time arguing about backup players, I don’t know what to tell you.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:36 am
“Bringing in McKenzie sounds great, but who is this Eliot Wolf dude?? This nepotism bullschitt in the NFL (Brian Shottenheimer, Kyle Shanahan, Chris Polian, Todd Haley) really rubs me the wrong way. If he’s any good, all for it. But I’m not sold on him just because Grandpa Wolf says so.”
Raider Debbie blabbing again with minimal knowledge of the situation. You dolt Eliot Wolf has a very impressive resume see for yourself:
http://www.packers.com/team/staff/eliot-wolf/554e5cf2-a949-4cb5-8d85-11e979ac48b3
“He’s also worked 19 consecutive Packers drafts (since 1993), and nine NFL scouting internships — five with the Packers, three with the Atlanta Falcons and one with the Seattle Seahawks. Wolf has attended 19 consecutive NFL scouting combines.”
January 5th, 2012 at 11:36 am
Guys if you want to learn why our defensive effort sucked go to NFL Network and listern to sound fx with Phillip Rivers. On the TD play to Gates he calls out the blitz and knows when Gates is in motion who will be covering him (33 Mitchell) and throws the ball, he also stats he has seen that on fim so many times.
The object of the blitz is to disguise it, with varied personnell and it shows we need a d- coor who can change things week to week and make the other team adjust in the game. Rivers said to ‘EASY’
January 5th, 2012 at 11:38 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPVQuEm4gRY&feature=channel_video_title
I like Jason Campbell alot. He’s a stand up, honestly good hearted guy.
Really unfortunate what happened to him, and I hope he can stay with the Raiders.
If he hadn’t gotten hurt, we are most definitely in the playoffs. Not because he is a better QB than Palmer, but because we lost about 3 games simply because of the transitional period between him and Palmer.
Much respect to you Jason Campbell!
January 5th, 2012 at 11:38 am
YoungAmerican Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 11:36 am
If you don’t want to take an objective look at what’s practical for the Raiders, and want to spend your time arguing about backup players, I don’t know what to tell you.
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Theres no argument. He sucks. I know what to tell you, and have already.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:39 am
Is there a list of potential cuts? Salary dumps?
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When that happens, then we can talk about them. But if they are “salary dumps” then they were probably making too much for their former team. And in that case, they’ll want more money than Giordano would make.
Seems more worthwhile to me to spend time talking about the starters who aren’t doing their jobs, rather than a backup player who can be re-signed for the veteran minimum.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:40 am
If Campbell won’t remain a Raider, let’s bring in Matt Flynn.
A QB tandem of Palmer/Campbell/Pryor
or
Palmer/Flynn/Pryor
is LIGHT YEARS ahead of the Jamarcus/Gradkowski/Boller
trio that we had to endure for years around here!
Man that QB mess set the franchise back big time.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:40 am
Raider Dell Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 11:36 am
Guys if you want to learn why our defensive effort sucked go to NFL Network and listern to sound fx with Phillip Rivers. On the TD play to Gates he calls out the blitz and knows when Gates is in motion who will be covering him (33 Mitchell) and throws the ball, he also stats he has seen that on fim so many times.
The object of the blitz is to disguise it, with varied personnell and it shows we need a d- coor who can change things week to week and make the other team adjust in the game. Rivers said to ‘EASY’
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He actually said “You guys are gonna put that on film?” meaning it was so bad you should be embarassed.
Thats how I understood it at least, I could be wrong.
But hey, Im “trying real hard” #Giordanoism
January 5th, 2012 at 11:41 am
YoungAmerican Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 11:39 am
Is there a list of potential cuts? Salary dumps?
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When that happens, then we can talk about them. But if they are “salary dumps” then they were probably making too much for their former team. And in that case, they’ll want more money than Giordano would make.
Seems more worthwhile to me to spend time talking about the starters who aren’t doing their jobs, rather than a backup player who can be re-signed for the veteran minimum.
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We have no starter at FS..
January 5th, 2012 at 11:41 am
Theres no argument. He sucks. I know what to tell you, and have already.
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Find a backup FS that the Raiders should sign, who is a clear upgrade over Giordano.
I’m going to take a shower and eat some lunch. I’m assuming a list will be waiting for me when I’m back.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:42 am
We have no starter at FS..
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There we go!
Now THIS is a problem.
My guess is that this Huff-to-CB nonsense won’t fly with the new defensive coordinator. Even then, Huff’s contract year looks like a mirage.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:42 am
Free agency has finally ruined the game. We can now see what all the skeptics were talking about in the Marcus Allen era when this was being debated.
Just look at Serena Williams she does not love Tennis she plays for the money. She said what many NFL players would say if they could be honest.
I would bet you that 30% of the guys playing today would rather be doing something else but their athletic ability allows them to make a killing in the NFL.
How many Raider defensive players are just collecting a check and would rather be doing something else?
January 5th, 2012 at 11:43 am
No way do I want Tom Gamble to be the GM.
Do we really want our beloved Silver and Black to turn into the 49ers?
No, let’s bring in Reggie ASAP
January 5th, 2012 at 11:43 am
And after you factor in Giordano’s “trying real hard” bonus he might actually make more than the other FA Safeties..
January 5th, 2012 at 11:44 am
YoungAmerican Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 11:41 am
Theres no argument. He sucks. I know what to tell you, and have already.
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Find a backup FS that the Raiders should sign, who is a clear upgrade over Giordano.
I’m going to take a shower and eat some lunch. I’m assuming a list will be waiting for me when I’m back.
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I wouldnt eat in the shower, seems like a waste of food.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:44 am
The Falcons’ DeCoud COULD be an option at FS in free agency, but it’s not like the Falcon’s pass defense was lights-out by any means.
That’s the biggest problem with moving Huff now. The FA market is going to be pretty dry at FS.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:45 am
Wonder what Giordano’s “tries real hard” rating in Madden is..
January 5th, 2012 at 11:46 am
According to Bill Williamson of ESPN, if the Raiders chose to franchise Michael Bush it would cost us $7.7 million.
Bye bye Bush!
Bush = Lamont Jordan
Somone will overpay and then discover he is a good backup RB who can’t carry the load.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:46 am
Dakota Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 11:30 am
Dell,
Given how well Bynum is playing right now, would the Lakers even benefit from trading him and some picks for Howard? (assume we keep Gasol)
My gut says make the trade and watch as Bynum gets another knee injury in orlando. If this team loses Bynum right now, we are lottery bound. I think Bynum is a much better offensive player than Dwight, but I will take Dwight for 80 games a season over Bynum for 35…..
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Dakota,
Was in SOCAL during Christmas break and my former roomate, who manages two laker current players talked about that scenario. I personally think, Bynum will never last a full season. Some players just get can never stay healthy, plus his conditioning has been Questioned.
Regarding Dwight Howard, he is fantastic. The movement away from the ball, his court presence and overall speed is amazing. He will not dominate a game like Shaq could, when shaq wanted to, but he can rebound and shoot better than shaq.
Today’s game, is five guys on the floor with movement towards the center than out, and he can play that role the best.
I’m not sold on Coach Brown. I keep hearing how the team is buying into his defensive philosphy. I can see some of the difference he has coached up, but if you don’t have the skill to score after the defensive stop, you are less inclined to continuing to do something with little results.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:48 am
That D was not good enough to take Granny to the early bird special for F.. sake. That was the worst defensive effort I have seen from a Raider team in 45 years. At least act like you give a crap
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JRJ,
what are you saying?
Hue didn’t have the troops motivated or prepared?
January 5th, 2012 at 11:48 am
Dakota Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 11:46 am
According to Bill Williamson of ESPN, if the Raiders chose to franchise Michael Bush it would cost us $7.7 million.
Bye bye Bush!
Bush = Lamont Jordan
Somone will overpay and then discover he is a good backup RB who can’t carry the load.
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But, didnt he carry the load for us?..
Almost 1000 yards rushing and started only 10 games..?
January 5th, 2012 at 11:49 am
Fire Hue this second….thanks
January 5th, 2012 at 11:51 am
B,
Good morning!!!
January 5th, 2012 at 11:51 am
Franchise Bush..then trade him for picks. We can always just put Giordano back there.. He looked good in the backfield on those blitzes. And, he can sure “try hard”
January 5th, 2012 at 11:51 am
Dell,
I agree about Brown and the lack of an offensive scheme….we hired some Italian coach to run the offense, but I am not impress as of yet.
Too bad Jim Buss would not allow Brown to hire Rambis as an assistant to run the triangle offense. That might actually work.
I always said I loved to watch the Lakers play because they ran an offense with movement, now it just seems so disorganized and random. Iso here, pick and roll there, throw it to Metta and watch the movement stop and the ensuing wild shot or turnover by MWP….frustrating to watch.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:52 am
268.Method To My Madness Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 11:49 am
Fire Hue this second….thanks
B, what’s up man?
January 5th, 2012 at 11:52 am
S. Moore got defense rookie of the week, patriots got a decent player that we let go of. I liked Stevie Brown too better than Boyd. We definitely need a gm to make better decisions in that dept .
January 5th, 2012 at 11:53 am
DeuceDeuce Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 11:48 am
Dakota Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 11:46 am
According to Bill Williamson of ESPN, if the Raiders chose to franchise Michael Bush it would cost us $7.7 million.
Bye bye Bush!
Bush = Lamont Jordan
Somone will overpay and then discover he is a good backup RB who can’t carry the load.
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But, didnt he carry the load for us?..
Almost 1000 yards rushing and started only 10 games..?
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I guess if you think about 75 yards a game and a 3.5 ypc ave is carrying the load, cuz that is about what he put up in the final weeks.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:53 am
Dakota Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 11:51 am
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Did you not watch the Cavs with Lebron? Mike Brown knows as much about offense as we do. Maybe not even that much.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:53 am
Mike Brown knows defense but offensive sets will always falter….Lakers not winning a title…I don’t care who you trade for
January 5th, 2012 at 11:54 am
Dakota Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 11:51 am
Dell,
I agree about Brown and the lack of an offensive scheme….we hired some Italian coach to run the offense, but I am not impress as of yet.
Too bad Jim Buss would not allow Brown to hire Rambis as an assistant to run the triangle offense. That might actually work.
I always said I loved to watch the Lakers play because they ran an offense with movement, now it just seems so disorganized and random. Iso here, pick and roll there, throw it to Metta and watch the movement stop and the ensuing wild shot or turnover by MWP….frustrating to watch.
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dakota,
What do you like about Howard? And will his style fit with the lakers current offense? Will Kobe share the ball.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:55 am
Dakota, that might not be a bad idea…but i agree with Brien at this moment! Until maybe that happens…
January 5th, 2012 at 11:56 am
According to Bill Williamson of ESPN, if the Raiders chose to franchise Michael Bush it would cost us $7.7 million.
Bye bye Bush!
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Agreed.
McFadden, Jones & Miller = just fine.
We can also re-sign Bennett, Cartwright or Rankin for peanuts. Maybe some other undrafted phenom?
January 5th, 2012 at 11:56 am
Dakota Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 11:53 am
DeuceDeuce Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 11:48 am
Dakota Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 11:46 am
According to Bill Williamson of ESPN, if the Raiders chose to franchise Michael Bush it would cost us $7.7 million.
Bye bye Bush!
Bush = Lamont Jordan
Somone will overpay and then discover he is a good backup RB who can’t carry the load.
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But, didnt he carry the load for us?..
Almost 1000 yards rushing and started only 10 games..?
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I guess if you think about 75 yards a game and a 3.5 ypc ave is carrying the load, cuz that is about what he put up in the final weeks.
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Without anyone else getting any significant carries? He WAS IT at RB. So ya, I’d say he carried the load.
There are only about 3 RBs who can play the whole game. Its a 2 RB league. He did it by himself.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:56 am
Good morning B
I think they are going to do a GM hire first then let the new GM be the hatchet man…… eventually heads will roll.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:56 am
Dell, Kobe has been sharing as of late…not sure about this season because I have yet to watch a Laker game, but…he’s not as greedy as he was before…correct me if I am wrong!
January 5th, 2012 at 11:57 am
Sup Dell and Hwnrdr….defensive effort? Lol…best joke of 2012 so far…Fire Hue….oops that’s racist
January 5th, 2012 at 11:57 am
281.Silverandblack666 Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 11:56 am
Good morning B
I think they are going to do a GM hire first then let the new GM be the hatchet man…… eventually heads will roll.
I agree, unfortunately, that may have to wait until February!
January 5th, 2012 at 11:58 am
Hey Luke Walton may not be any good.. but he tries hard.
#Giordanoism
January 5th, 2012 at 11:59 am
B, you’re talking about The Raiders or The Lakers? I haven’t seen all but 3 qtrs of a Bulls/Clippers game last week and that is it…so I don’t know what the Lakers are doing right now!
January 5th, 2012 at 11:59 am
Kobe better share…idiot can’t play great anymore nite to nite
January 5th, 2012 at 11:59 am
285.DeuceDeuce Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 11:58 am
Hey Luke Walton may not be any good.. but he tries hard.
#Giordanoism
LMAO! F Luke Walton!
January 5th, 2012 at 11:59 am
Ray Rice, Matt Forte, Marshwan Lynch, Peyton Hillis, Cedric Benson, BenJarvus Green-Ellis, Mike Tolbert and are all Free Agents next year.
I don’t think Bush is gonna strike a huge deal with so much competition.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
But I see your point Deuce! LOL
January 5th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
287.Method To My Madness Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 11:59 am
Kobe better share…idiot can’t play great anymore nite to nite
I agree!
Man, what the heck happened to Stephon Curry last night???
January 5th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
Raider Dell Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 11:54 am
dakota,
What do you like about Howard? And will his style fit with the lakers current offense? Will Kobe share the ball.
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I like his health.
I like his presence on the defensive side of the ball. Bynum has improved defensively, but Howard is still a much better help defender, which would make those PG penetrations a little less painful to watch.
I like his consistent double doubles.
I like his star quality that will attract another young player to the Lakers once Kobe’s albatross contract is gone.
I like that he does not have Bynum’s off the court maturity problems.
Offensively, his game is not as smooth as Bynum’s, but he will get plenty of put backs playing with brick layers like Kobe and Metta lol. I don’t think he will see as many easy hoops as he gets in Orlando because we do not have a guard who can penetrate and pull is defender away opening up the alley-oops.
If everything was equal I would choose Bynum. He is younger, has a better offensive game and is a Laker from day one, but those injuries just pull him way down for me.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
That Derrick Gibson wasnt very good, but man did he give a mean effort.
#Giordanoism
January 5th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
General question to the blog, or you can continue discussing Giordano, at FS.
My question is, I started comparing the teams with 8-8 records and was wondering of those teams, who would see a break out next year and make the playoffs. My sense is us, and my question to any who responds is this. Will the NY Jets make the playoffs with Sanchez at QB, and who’s team is better our Raiders or Jets.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
Franchise Bush..then trade him for picks.
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how much is he worth?
teams KNOW we aren’t going to pay the man $7.7 mil to sit behind McFadden … they’ll lowball us like the Pats did with Randy Moss, knowing we’re desperate to unload the player and will pretty much just accept whatever offer is on the table.
Most trades are contingent upon working out a long term deal though, right? Who knows what Bush’s contract demands would be? I know the new team aint gonna take 1 year at almost 8 mil!
January 5th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
Detroit vs NYG in nfc title game…..we donnt gotta wait til February
January 5th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
There are only about 3 RBs who can play the whole game. Its a 2 RB league. He did it by himself.
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Really? I didn’t see him contribute much over the last 5 games. Nothing changed on the o-line, so what happened?
January 5th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
Dell, I think Offensively, The Raiders are better, but of course, Defensively I’d have to give it to the Jets…so its kinda a wash at this point!
January 5th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
Bob Marley Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 11:59 am
Ray Rice, Matt Forte, Marshwan Lynch, Peyton Hillis, Cedric Benson, BenJarvus Green-Ellis, Mike Tolbert and are all Free Agents next year.
I don’t think Bush is gonna strike a huge deal with so much competition.
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Hillis, Benson & BJGE might be the only ones on that list that see the light of day.. FRANCHISED.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
296.Method To My Madness Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
Detroit vs NYG in nfc title game…..we donnt gotta wait til February
Those 2 teams peaked at teh right time…that could be right!
January 5th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Raider Dell Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
General question to the blog, or you can continue discussing Giordano, at FS.
My question is, I started comparing the teams with 8-8 records and was wondering of those teams, who would see a break out next year and make the playoffs. My sense is us, and my question to any who responds is this. Will the NY Jets make the playoffs with Sanchez at QB, and who’s team is better our Raiders or Jets.
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IDK but we have a tough schedule.
And if we dont re-sign Giordano… Just cant see it happening.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
I like his health.
I like his presence on the defensive side of the ball. Bynum has improved defensively, but Howard is still a much better help defender, which would make those PG penetrations a little less painful to watch.
I like his consistent double doubles.
I like his star quality that will attract another young player to the Lakers once Kobe’s albatross contract is gone.
I like that he does not have Bynum’s off the court maturity problems.
Offensively, his game is not as smooth as Bynum’s, but he will get plenty of put backs playing with brick layers like Kobe and Metta lol. I don’t think he will see as many easy hoops as he gets in Orlando because we do not have a guard who can penetrate and pull is defender away opening up the alley-oops.
If everything was equal I would choose Bynum. He is younger, has a better offensive game and is a Laker from day one, but those injuries just pull him way down for me.
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dakota,
Good analysis, and as we start the 2012 year, I hope he can stay healthy. (bynum)
January 5th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
dell…I’m gonna say titans eventho they went 9-7…in NFC? Hmmmmm maybe Cardnials or Eagles……raiders need not apply until Hue is gone
January 5th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Only Rice and a healthy Forte are players worth franchising so the rest should be available for every other team to sign.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
My question is, I started comparing the teams with 8-8 records and was wondering of those teams, who would see a break out next year and make the playoffs. My sense is us, and my question to any who responds is this. Will the NY Jets make the playoffs with Sanchez at QB, and who’s team is better our Raiders or Jets.
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Dell,
Please allow me to answer your question with 100 other questions. Who is our GM, HC, DC, asst coaches, players, etc ???
This team might look WAY different by the time the draft rolls around. Let’s revisit this topic then, shall we?
Until then, Matty G > Stuey !!!
January 5th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
Maybe Lynch in Seattle gets tagged as well.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
I say if the Eagles do land Spags as DC and he brings Waufle in (if that little birdie is true about the D staff), they could be a force to recon with in the NFC!
January 5th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
Bob Marley Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Only Rice and a healthy Forte are players worth franchising so the rest should be available for every other team to sign.
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Do you not eat skittles? Are you not aware of Beast Mode?
If im looking for a RB, I’d take Bush over Tolbert, Benson & BJGE.
Rice, Forte & Lynch arent going anywhere.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
I corrected myself on beast mode.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
Anyone know the TAG price for a FS?.. Dont wanna lose Giordano.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
Sick of this feeling….Steelers are sitting ducks and Raiders gone fishing…fkin shame…die Hue
January 5th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
but he will get plenty of put backs playing with brick layers like Kobe and Metta
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LOL!
I think you’re completely off base with you Laker takes Dakota.
Kobe’s shot selection is the only issue. Well that, and Gasoft’s lack of aggresiveness.
Did you not notice the difference in where Kobe was getting the ball and the types of shots he was taking the last game? You’re not going to give the coaching staff credit for that?
I think you should appply some of your Raider logic to the Lakers. Keep your best young player. Keep you draft picks.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
dell…I’m gonna say titans eventho they went 9-7…in NFC? Hmmmmm maybe Cardnials or Eagles……raiders need not apply until Hue is gone
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B,
Interesting take. I would be concerned about Hassleback as QB, seems to get injured many times during the season. I think the Titans need to get Johnson running like last year. His numbers this year versus last year would have translated into two possibly three victories for Titans.
I still think they have holes in depth and WR, but can fill those gaps in the off season.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
hwnrdr Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
I say if the Eagles do land Spags as DC and he brings Waufle in (if that little birdie is true about the D staff), they could be a force to recon with in the NFC!
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Very true.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
Dell,
Of course the answer is going to be the Raiders and Palmer over Sanchesca.
A solid GM and DC hire is going to translate to AT LEAST 3 wins.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
raiders need not apply (for the playoffs) until Hue is gone
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ROG,
“it never hurts to put in an application for a job that you’re not qualified for. sometimes it’s not what you know, but WHO you know”
-RRS’s dad.
by the way, Hue Jackson is the “Chuck Bresnahan” of Head Coaches ..
January 5th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
Marshawn Lynch needs to be a Raider…I’ll take him over Bush…otherwisekeep Bush
January 5th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
Ouch!
January 5th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
J Hill Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
but he will get plenty of put backs playing with brick layers like Kobe and Metta
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LOL!
I think you’re completely off base with you Laker takes Dakota.
Kobe’s shot selection is the only issue. Well that, and Gasoft’s lack of aggresiveness.
Did you not notice the difference in where Kobe was getting the ball and the types of shots he was taking the last game? You’re not going to give the coaching staff credit for that?
I think you should appply some of your Raider logic to the Lakers. Keep your best young player. Keep you draft picks.
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You really would not make a Bynum and picks for Howard trade?
We’ll discuss this again on January 8th after Bynum plays the grizzlies. you know what happends when bynum plays the Grizzlies….same thing that happens when McFadden plays KC….
January 5th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
317.Method To My Madness Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
Marshawn Lynch needs to be a Raider…I’ll take him over Bush…otherwisekeep Bush
Co-Sign!
January 5th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
Wassup B
January 5th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
RRS= RaiderDamus in 2011 summmer…not so bad for a podunker
January 5th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
Norv Turner is the “Matt Giordano” of HCs..
Not very good, but man does he try hard.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
Until then, Matty G > Stuey !!!
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In the run game, this is very true.
HUGE hole at FS with Huff outta the mix. Huff’s run support was certainly an issue. Good move sending him to corner.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
hwnrdr Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
317.Method To My Madness Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
Marshawn Lynch needs to be a Raider…I’ll take him over Bush…otherwisekeep Bush
Co-Sign!
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Let’s bring em’ back to the town.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
Why haven’t they fired Bresnahan yet? This is the ONLY one sure thing we know for sure. Why are we waiting? The quicker he’s ejected the quicker we have a shot at someone who knows what they are doing.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
Marshawn Lynch needs to be a Raider…I’ll take him over Bush…otherwisekeep Bush
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If he sniffs Free Agency we better be on it.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
Lynch would be pissed playing second fiddle to a healthy McFadden for 16 games next year!
January 5th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
Norv Turner is the “Matt Giordano” of HCs..
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who can Lane Kiffin be compared to ???
Rolando McClain.
“I could care less about being a Raider or winning, but the pay is good!”
they call it ‘Russelitis’ I think – google it
January 5th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
Hate to say this, but if we could sign Lynch, I would trade DMAC for some picks.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
Dakota Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
Lynch would be pissed playing second fiddle to a healthy McFadden for 16 games next year!
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You solved your own problem there. A healthy McFadden. We can sell him on DMC being hurt at some point.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
Dmac…still mad as fk
January 5th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
You really would not make a Bynum and picks for Howard trade?
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I’d trade DMac for the right price, so of course I would CONSIDER trading Bynum.
If D Howard is on our team when we play the Griz and Kobe crashes into his knee from the side, D Howard is going to be out for a while too.
The way Bynum is playing, the Lakers have all the leverage is all I’m saying. At this point, it should be Bynum for Howard straight up. Damn taking on Turkoglo’s contract and giving up draft picks.
We don’t “need” Howards. We NEED a PG. Those draft picks and trade exception could net us a PG.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
McPhaggot sucks…Bo I’m with you mow
January 5th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
Marshawn Lynch needs to be a Raider…I’ll take him over Bush
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Agreed.
We were saying pick him up when he was on the outs in Buffalo.
Some folks thought coming home would be a distraction.
Damn that!
January 5th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
Dmac…still mad as fk
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I’ve recovered already, only to get punched in the stomach after watching the Dubs go down last night.
Is Curry our version of DMAC?
January 5th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
Dakota Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
Lynch would be pissed playing second fiddle to a healthy McFadden for 16 games next year!
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Dakota you know I’m big fan of DMAC.
So lrt’s bet on the over under of DMAC next season. Will he play 16 games or between 9-16 games what’s your bet.
I will payoff, unlike MR did a few years ago to you.
Let’ss have a bet for two at your favorite restaurant where you live or place a certain amount on the bet say, $100 or less if you feel, name your price.
Dakota, let’s keep you and I discusing something this off season and during the season, it’s boring around here.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
man Curry needs to sit for two weeks…Kwame Brown sucks man…can’t miss 4 straight FTs! Ever!
January 5th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
J, wassup wit it?
Since we didn’t hook up for the Raiders.
You down for a Faker-Warriors game?
January 5th, 2012 at 12:20 pm
RRS= RaiderDamus in 2011 summmer
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ROG,
Hue Jax = epic fail (I nicknamed him “BTC” for Black Tom Cable)
DHB = stud
BCamp = invisable
Morrison > McClain
Nnamdi alone doesn’t change the W/L column
I was wrong about a few things too, like Chaz staying healthy and Goethel being a beast
what else do you need to know?
quick question: is Jacoby Ford on the trade block yet?
January 5th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
man Curry needs to sit for two weeks…Kwame Brown sucks man…can’t miss 4 straight FTs! Ever!
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Besides the free throws I actually think Kwame has been giving us good min. off the bench.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
DMAC Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
Dmac…still mad as fk
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I’ve recovered already, only to get punched in the stomach after watching the Dubs go down last night.
Is Curry our version of DMAC?
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Seems that way huh? Nate Robinson is coming but the injury to Steph hurts. This looks like a repeat of last year.
Start off strong but can’t stay healthy. Steph hurt, Lee sick, Monta family dilemmas, all resulting in missed games.
The real problem I see is Dorrell Wright and Klay Thompson. D Wright can’t hit a basket to save his life, Klay Thompson is a rookie, and the backup Brandon Rush appears to have been a one hit wonder.
We need a three badly. Someone else who can create their own shot besides just Monta!
January 5th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
NBA talk?
Go Heat !!!
January 5th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
Fk Darren Mcphaggot…trade him for a bag of cheetos
January 5th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
Congrats to Andrew Bynum on his 1st 20/20 game ever..
Meanwhile D12 just had his 36th.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
trade him for a bag of cheetos
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ROG –
hey now!
Darren McFragile is a stud (when healthy)
January 5th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
I knew Nate Robinson went to James Logan high, but yesterday in his press conference, he said that he grew up in North Oakland watching the Warriors.
I thought he grew up in Seattle?lol
January 5th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
Dell,
What do you think about Huff switching to CB next season.
What can I say? Always right!!!!!
Take that Finance Master!!!!
January 5th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
DMAC Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
Dmac…still mad as fk
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I’ve recovered already, only to get punched in the stomach after watching the Dubs go down last night.
Is Curry our version of DMAC?
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Seems that way huh? Nate Robinson is coming but the injury to Steph hurts. This looks like a repeat of last year.
Start off strong but can’t stay healthy. Steph hurt, Lee sick, Monta family dilemmas, all resulting in missed games.
The real problem I see is Dorrell Wright and Klay Thompson. D Wright can’t hit a basket to save his life, Klay Thompson is a rookie, and the backup Brandon Rush appears to have been a one hit wonder.
We need a three badly. Someone else who can create their own shot besides just Monta!
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I think Klay will come around. Had his best game last night. I’m worried about Wright. WTF is up w/ him?
Only took 2 shots last night. Looks like his confidence is fked. We need his production big time.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
Hue Jackson is a snake oil salesman like the UnHonorable Louis FarraCon your ass
January 5th, 2012 at 12:25 pm
DD,
Andrew Bynum is the Chaz Schilens of professional basketball. Maybe he stays healthy this year?
I wouldn’t quite say he’s Giordano-calibur though
January 5th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
When we get our new D-coordinator, Huff will be back playing FS. Dudes hips are way too stiff to play corner.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
Nate from here….Armchair his dad from here and my pops knew him back in the 70s…he went to the Log House fa sho but in middle of HS he went to Seeattle
January 5th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 12:25 pm
DD,
Andrew Bynum is the Chaz Schilens of professional basketball. Maybe he stays healthy this year?
I wouldn’t quite say he’s Giordano-calibur though
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Obviously.
Maybe if he stays healthy and plays better he can be mentioned in the same breath as the Giordano’s of the world.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
DMAC Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
I think Klay will come around. Had his best game last night. I’m worried about Wright. WTF is up w/ him?
Only took 2 shots last night. Looks like his confidence is fked. We need his production big time.
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If D Wright showed up to play yesterday we win that game hands down. Down the stretch, with Curry out, there was literally NO ONE to take the shot besides Monta. He was clearly playing on sheer will, cause he was exhausted.
We need another offensive threat who can score and create their own shot. D Wright is a backup in my opinion.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
I’m not coming to the O for a Dubs game, DMac.
Really??????
January 5th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
Bynum won 2 titles and is tough….Chaz?…u get my point
January 5th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
Hey Deuce Deuce, did you compile a list of free agents the Raiders should target to replace Matt Giordano as backup FS? There are probably a ton of great options out there that would be clear upgrades, right?
January 5th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
Mike Silver is confirming that the D staff is gone effective two weeks from the last game.
And that Herrera is a liar.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
DMAC Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
When we get our new D-coordinator, Huff will be back playing FS. Dudes hips are way too stiff to play corner.
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Thank you. Thought I was the only one who noticed this.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
J Hill Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
I’m not coming to the O for a Dubs game, DMac.
Really??????
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I’ll pay for your greyhound ticket man.
C’mon!
January 5th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
Hey Deuce Deuce, did you compile a list of free agents the Raiders should target to replace Matt Giordano as backup FS? There are probably a ton of great options out there that would be clear upgrades, right?
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Negative. At work with limited internet access.
But maybe we can swing a trade with Seattle?..
Giordano for Earl Thomas, Lynch & Picks??.. Seems even.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
LOL!
January 5th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
328.Dakota Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
Lynch would be pissed playing second fiddle to a healthy McFadden for 16 games next year!
How about playing side by side?
DMAC…come on now, I’m a Laker Fan not a Faker…lol
January 5th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
hwnrdr Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
328.Dakota Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
Lynch would be pissed playing second fiddle to a healthy McFadden for 16 games next year!
How about playing side by side?
DMAC…come on now, I’m a Laker Fan not a Faker…lol
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You get a pass. Cuz you the homie, but the rest. I don’t know man.
lol
January 5th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
Trade d wright…he can’t play in set offense…its obvious now…last year in open run n gun offense he scored a lot but real offense? Dorrell is a bench player
January 5th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
Nate from here….Armchair his dad from here and my pops knew him back in the 70s…he went to the Log House fa sho but in middle of HS he went to Seeattle
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That’s wassup. I’m all for local Oakland talent to come and play for the home team.
That’s why I would love to see Beastmode, Marshawn Lynch in Silver and Black.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
Darren McFadden drew up a Donks fan.
trade him to Denver for Tim Tebow, Willis McGahee & Ryan Harris ???
January 5th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
*grew up*
January 5th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
DMAC Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
When we get our new D-coordinator, Huff will be back playing FS. Dudes hips are way too stiff to play corner.
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Thank you. Thought I was the only one who noticed this.
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So you guys disagree that tackling in the secondary is an issue? I think Huff would easily be a better corner than what we had over there this year.
Going to be interesting to see what happens with Chekwa and DVD this offseason.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 11:42 am
Free agency has finally ruined the game. We can now see what all the skeptics were talking about in the Marcus Allen era when this was being debated.
Just look at Serena Williams she does not love Tennis she plays for the money. She said what many NFL players would say if they could be honest.
I would bet you that 30% of the guys playing today would rather be doing something else but their athletic ability allows them to make a killing in the NFL.
How many Raider defensive players are just collecting a check and would rather be doing something else?
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Judging by the results, a good many of them.
You know, this was part of Al Davis’ problem. He assumed that gifted athletes had passion for the sport, and thought they would be especially motivated to play for the “Greatness of the Raiders.” He never understood the modern player, who are financial entities unto themselves. Dude burned through a ton of money the past few years of his life thinking that “gifts” = “attitude.” It was a shame.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
J Hill Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
DMAC Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
When we get our new D-coordinator, Huff will be back playing FS. Dudes hips are way too stiff to play corner.
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Thank you. Thought I was the only one who noticed this.
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So you guys disagree that tackling in the secondary is an issue? I think Huff would easily be a better corner than what we had over there this year.
Going to be interesting to see what happens with Chekwa and DVD this offseason.
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I think he’s a bigger liability trying to cover wide outs, than trying to tackle in the open field.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
J Hill Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
DMAC Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
When we get our new D-coordinator, Huff will be back playing FS. Dudes hips are way too stiff to play corner.
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Thank you. Thought I was the only one who noticed this.
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So you guys disagree that tackling in the secondary is an issue? I think Huff would easily be a better corner than what we had over there this year.
Going to be interesting to see what happens with Chekwa and DVD this offseason.
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Whats more important in a secondary though? Tackling or Coverage?..
January 5th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
Maybe the new GM can trade CP to the Jets for a first and second.
The Chihuahua will not make it
January 5th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
Like the old Kurt Angle these…”Hue sucks…Hue Sucks…Hue sucks”
January 5th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
Lynch
Landry
C. Cambell
Nicks
Avril
Need to look hard at these guys.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
The biggest priority the new GM will have is somehow re-signing Giordano to a long term deal. Obviously.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
Put down whatever it is you are drinking.
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RaiderRockstar Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
Darren McFadden drew up a Donks fan.
trade him to Denver for Tim Tebow, Willis McGahee & Ryan Harris ???
January 5th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
hellsbells Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
Lynch
Landry
C. Cambell
Nicks
Avril
Need to look hard at these guys.
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I like that list.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
Trade Curry’s ankle for DMAC’s toes.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
Darren McFadden drew up a Donks fan.
trade him to Denver for Tim Tebow, Willis McGahee & Ryan Harris ???
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We already have a good FB..?
January 5th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
Lol the warriors are pushing for Howard. Their offer is either curry or Ellis and a first round pick. What a joke offer compared to Bynum and a couple of first rounders.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
Raider O Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
Dell,
What do you think about Huff switching to CB next season.
What can I say? Always right!!!!!
Take that Finance Master!!!!
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
WOW!!!!
Claiming victory when there is none. Raider O didn’t think you were so braggadocio.
Yet in your prior comments, the last few threads back, you commented ‘Huff should stay at FS’, or am I reading your words wrong, again.
So let me get this straight, Hue the interim coach says Huff to CB, you claim victory and yet you say he’s a better FS, ok.
Raider O, new subject, let’s debate our defensive schem., raider O take the present one, I’ll take the one by the new D- coordinator. Deal.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
Trade MM34 for a used jimmy glove.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
“Judging by the results, a good many of them.
You know, this was part of Al Davis’ problem. He assumed that gifted athletes had passion for the sport, and thought they would be especially motivated to play for the “Greatness of the Raiders.” He never understood the modern player, who are financial entities unto themselves. Dude burned through a ton of money the past few years of his life thinking that “gifts” = “attitude.” It was a shame.”
Kind of sad isn’t it…Al Davis gave his heart, soul and all the money he had to build a team of check collectors that lack heart and desire. This would not apply to every one but surely Warren Sapp would be culprit #1 on my list!
January 5th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
Dell,
I am on a shtty phone right now. When I get back to work I will respond to your proposal.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
Fire this bald head dummy now!
January 5th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
Since Kelly can’t stop the run, but can get after the QB at times and Houston who can stop the run, but not get after the QB.
Why not just flip-flop positions?
January 5th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
Dakota Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
Dell,
I am on a shtty phone right now. When I get back to work I will respond to your proposal.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Dakota I have an Iphone 4, want it, it’s not as great as everyone told me. On the proposal, take your time, think it through, I’ll give you till Aug 31.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
Thanks DMAC!
January 5th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
New DC won’t mean schit if Hue is still there or that quitter Palmer
January 5th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
Sactown just fired their coach. Keith smart is the coach for now.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:49 pm
If Hue goes, Palmer goes…
January 5th, 2012 at 12:49 pm
Chargers will go with Pagano as DC… John Pagano, Chucks brother.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
Kelly sucks
January 5th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
B, Palmer is a quitter?
January 5th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
Reggie.
Reggie.
Reggie.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
hwnrdr Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 12:49 pm
If Hue goes, Palmer goes…
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I disagree.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
Hwnrdr,
Let’s set up tailgate for A’s game. We will include everyone who meets up with us at the raiders game, and we can stay drunk for 9 innings and have fun.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:52 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
Kelly sucks
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Whatever we can get for him? few draft picks maybe.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:52 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
Kelly sucks
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He’s no Matt Giordano thats for sure.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:52 pm
If hue goes Palmer stays and takes us to the sb!
January 5th, 2012 at 12:52 pm
Raider Dell Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
Hwnrdr,
Let’s set up tailgate for A’s game. We will include everyone who meets up with us at the raiders game, and we can stay drunk for 9 innings and have fun.
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I’m in, but I’m soooooooo fkin pissed off right now at the A’s!
FK Billy Bean!
January 5th, 2012 at 12:53 pm
Being drunk is the only to tolerate 9 innings of baseball. Especially Billy ball!
January 5th, 2012 at 12:53 pm
Yes…Palmer may as well retire again…I’ll respect him
January 5th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
Palmer stacked up 400 yards in week 17 and his only Int came when Ford fell down. I fail to see how he quit or is a problem.
Enlighten me…
January 5th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
POST-404,OR 4 QTRS OF RAIDER FOOTBALL RECENTLY..
January 5th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
Dakota Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
Sactown just fired their coach. Keith smart is the coach for now.
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Cousins wins the PR battle.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
Hue should have had a capable #2.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
Plmer was on the couch Mista before Chiefs game…why was he?
January 5th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
B, it would take JC two solid weeks to throw for 400 yards and if he had to slide he may break his fibula like KK Munster.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
Hue should have had a capable #2.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
As a seamstress, or manicure gal.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
The Dubs game last night was sickening.
Through in the 1/3 of a bottle of mandarin Absolut I crushed last night, and I was heated!!!
I hate Kwame and his terrible hands. If he doesn’t drop the pass, he is liable to miss a 2 footer by 3 feet.
Dorrell Wright is done. Shots off, no confidence, defenses are sagging off him and he is turning it over.
Will be out of the rotation in a month.
Klay looked good, but like all youngsters, he makes two tough shots, so he thinks the answer is take two more TOUGHER shots.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
Cinn refused to trade him.
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Method To My Madness Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
Plmer was on the couch Mista before Chiefs game…why was he?
January 5th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
Deuce …
So if you’re pushing for Gio to return at FS, where do you have Huff playing?
January 5th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
Palmer throws to many picks.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
Manusky getting fired in SD. It sure didn’t help with Rivers throwing 24 int, and playing like crap. Manusky will fall on his feet, good DC, likely to Rams.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:59 pm
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
Hue should have had a capable #2.
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It’s well known where my opinion about Hue Jackson falls, but the lack of a #2 better than Boller isn’t on him. Al had the final say over the roster.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:59 pm
Hwnrdr,
Let’s set up tailgate for A’s game. We will include everyone who meets up with us at the raiders game, and we can stay drunk for 9 innings and have fun.
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Might as well stay in the parking lot for the 9 innings.
January 5th, 2012 at 12:59 pm
If Curry didn’t tweak his ankle running straight down the court (WTF)we win that game. Monta was so gassed by the end of the 4th he couldn’t shoot.
Dorrell does look pitiful they need to get him out of the rotation ASAP!
Kwame is a worse free throw shooter than Biedrins (amazingly) but I like his rebounding and he can steal.
January 5th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
palmer grew up a rich spoiled btch from Santa Margarita HS…he was a loser there…went to USC with Hue as his OC…still a loser over his career there despite that bogus Heisman…cincy loser central and then he quit but look at cincy now look at em now….ooooooh….they’re in the playoffs…look at em now look at em now….better than the fkin Raiders
January 5th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
Boller is Hue’s guy.
January 5th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
LOL
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Just Fire Baby Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 12:59 pm
Hwnrdr,
Let’s set up tailgate for A’s game. We will include everyone who meets up with us at the raiders game, and we can stay drunk for 9 innings and have fun.
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Might as well stay in the parking lot for the 9 innings.
January 5th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
399.Raider Dell Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
Hwnrdr,
Let’s set up tailgate for A’s game. We will include everyone who meets up with us at the raiders game, and we can stay drunk for 9 innings and have fun.
Dell, sounds good to me!
DMAC, was that Billy or Lou?
January 5th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
The way Curry got hurt just planting his foot, made me worry that it wasn’t an ankle but like a Achilles or McFadden type thing.
January 5th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
Pryor will replace Boller if not I will personally fire Hue myself.
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Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
Boller is Hue’s guy.
January 5th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
Yep Mista so he quit instead of live up to a big sized contract
January 5th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
JFB, lol…hey, that will stil be fun!
January 5th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
J Hill Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
Deuce …
So if you’re pushing for Gio to return at FS, where do you have Huff playing?
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Im sorry, I wish there was a way to read sarcasm. Im totally not pushing for him to return, I think hes one of the worst in the NFL. Im just being sarcastic because some think he is good or something.
January 5th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
So will Pujols hit more HR’s than the A’s 3-4-5 hitters for the year?
January 5th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
Greg Manusky just took the bullet in SD.
Another scapegoat on the loose. Where the doltz should have fired Turner and GM Smith, it was more conmfortable to fire the DC.
Should not be any different in Oaktown. Where HueSux and the entire staff should be fired now, Bresnahan will be scapegoated, deservedly so just like Manusky, but both HueSux and Norv as head coaches will continue to be the main problems in Oaktown and Diego.
There are rumors being spread around that HueSux is pizzed off because he’s not in on the GM interviews.
January 5th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
Maybe u guys can trade kwame brown to the grizz for Marc gasol?
January 5th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
Might as well stay in the parking lot for the 9 innings.
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Good Point!! More fun and entertaining watching the A’s and getting drunk.
January 5th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
Boller is Hue’s guy.
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Keeping him on the roster as 3rd string like he was last year would’ve given Hue his guy and kept him far, far away from the field.
Raiders had a perfectly respectable backup QB in 2010, but he was run out of town to keep Jason Campbell’s poor little feelings from being hurt.
Honestly, has there ever been an NFL QB who’s accomplished less that had to be protected 100% in his job security & receive no competition at all?
Fk JC.
January 5th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
hwnrdr Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
399.Raider Dell Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
Hwnrdr,
Let’s set up tailgate for A’s game. We will include everyone who meets up with us at the raiders game, and we can stay drunk for 9 innings and have fun.
Dell, sounds good to me!
DMAC, was that Billy or Lou?
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Both of those B!TCHES
FK them both
January 5th, 2012 at 1:03 pm
I am on a shtty phone right now. When I get back to work I will respond to your proposal.
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Is that the new phone by LG I wondered how they worked. now I know thanks.
Is that the same one Breshnahan uses to call the d with?
January 5th, 2012 at 1:03 pm
430.Just Fire Baby Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
So will Pujols hit more HR’s than the A’s 3-4-5 hitters for the year?
JFB, maybe but because you’re a Ginats fan, that really must be funny to you!
BTW: I heard Coco is coming back
January 5th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
If the new GM doesn’t FIREHUEY, we will know we have the wrong GM.
January 5th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
Ok he quit in Cinn so what. I’ll judge him by what he does in a Oakland uniform. He came in with no pre season and gave a good effort and we scored enough to win most of the games we lost.
What more can you ask for?
If we had a competent DC we would be talking about Pitts coming to the O right now.
The end
January 5th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
Lee was scraping last night.
But as usual, our inability to keep the opposing backcourt out of the paint killed us.
Nobody gives up more 8 foot floaters from PG’s than the Dubs.
January 5th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
435.DMAC Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
hwnrdr Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
399.Raider Dell Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
Hwnrdr,
Let’s set up tailgate for A’s game. We will include everyone who meets up with us at the raiders game, and we can stay drunk for 9 innings and have fun.
Dell, sounds good to me!
DMAC, was that Billy or Lou?
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Both of those B!TCHES
FK them both
AGREED! Lou Wolfe wants out of Oakland so he traded away all of our starters! Reminded me of Major League!
January 5th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
BTW: I heard Coco is coming back
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Coco Crisp is a marginal MLB player.
Decent stick and range, no pop and I think I have a stronger throwing arm than him.
January 5th, 2012 at 1:06 pm
95.7 reporting via Yahoo Sports: The rumors about defensive coaches being fired is confirmed.
January 5th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
BTW: I heard Coco is coming back
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Coco Crisp is a marginal MLB player.
Decent stick and range, no pop and I think I have a stronger throwing arm than him.
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Before or after a smoke and a few cocktails.
January 5th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
Palmer just needs to learn that every 3rd and 14 doesn’t need to be converted. We have this guy named Lechler who does a pretty bang-up job on 4th downs.
Too many forced balls in those situations.
January 5th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
I’m out…after talking warriors raiders and sorry ass A’s…can’t take no more….Mizzou is 14-0 with a big game in 48 hours vs number 22 ranked K State Wildcats in Manhattan,KS on ESPN2 at 10:30am
January 5th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
LOL.
Ok, Deuce.
Gotcha.
January 5th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
MikeSilver Michael Silver
This is why a lot of established coaches don’t want to work for #Raiders. They play games, instead of just manning up and firing people…
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Michael Silver
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So, despite what John Herrera says, Bresnahan et al have been told they’re gone (effective two weeks from the last game). What a tool he is
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Michael Silver
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My source tells me that the #Raiders have in fact fired those four defensive coaches and that John Herrera, thus, is a lying liar
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Per @MikeSilver #Raiders are not “firing” defensive coordinator Chuck Bresnahan and other 3 coaches until their contracts are up on Jan. 15
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January 5th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
Palmer knew our defense would give up everything he got so he was trying to do too much. He was forcing things and Hue didn’t help him out and ohhhhhhh yah DMAC in sweats spitting seeds on the sidelines didn’t help.
Palmer is the least of our worries. The defense has been a problem since 2002….thats 9 years wayyyyyy too long!
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Just Fire Baby Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
Palmer just needs to learn that every 3rd and 14 doesn’t need to be converted. We have this guy named Lechler who does a pretty bang-up job on 4th downs.
Too many forced balls in those situations.
January 5th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
Ap Story:
Men with rhythm wanted for Olympic Ceremonies.
That would be most of you guys in here.
January 5th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
Maybe Palmer forces so many ball because he knows the defense can’t stop a middle scoop marching band let alone an NFL offense. Punting with this defense was like throwing a pick six…just a little slower.
January 5th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
Michael Silver
My source tells me that the #Raiders have in fact fired those four defensive coaches and that John Herrera, thus, is a lying liar
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LOL
January 5th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
Mike Silver re: John Herrera and how the Raiders are handling the dismissal of Bresnahan & Co.:
“So, despite what John Herrera says, Bresnahan et al have been told they’re gone (effective two weeks from the last game). What a tool he is.
This is why a lot of established coaches don’t want to work for [the] Raiders. They play games, instead of just manning up and firing people.
They say, “Oh, you have a year on your contract? You’ve been reassigned to scouting.” Daring them to leave or void contract.
It’s Draconian, it’s childish and it’s dysfunctional. And now Al can’t be blamed anymore. No NFL ‘executive’ is a bigger tool than Herrera”
Wow.
January 5th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
Before or after a smoke and a few cocktails.
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No more smoking, but definately after a few cocktails.
Got to have a few pops to get in full-on Al Bundy, Polk High hero mode, lol.
January 5th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
Punting with this defense was like throwing a pick six…just a little slower.
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Fair enough.
Well, IF we fix the defense, than he needs to cut that crap out.
January 5th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
And Jan 21st…Mizzou travels and beats Baylor’s sorry ass on ESPN…and Dell will just have to do two things about it…1) Like it and 2) Nothing
January 5th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
MikieG at 448 beat me to it.
Still, so awesome, it cannot be posted enough
January 5th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
My blog for the day does not contibute to society, your brain or anything else… It is simply for my pleasure! http://raiderchaos.blogspot.com/2012/01/bye-john-you-loser-tool.html
January 5th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
John Herrera is my hero
January 5th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
I think Palmer will be fine if we bring in a Head Coach that doesn’t $UCK.
January 5th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
Feel bad for Rod Woodson. But….yeah, that secondary was an abomination.
January 5th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
See y’all later…Die Hue and rid yaself of Palmer….good day
January 5th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
RaiderChaos Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
My blog for the day does not contibute to society, your brain or anything else… It is simply for my pleasure! http://raiderchaos.blogspot.com/2012/01/bye-john-you-loser-tool.html
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With all due respect.
FK yo couch!
I mean FK yo blog!
January 5th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
And Jan 21st…Mizzou travels and beats Baylor’s sorry ass on ESPN…and Dell will just have to do two things about it…1) Like it and 2) Nothing
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Ohhh,Ahhhh the gauntlet laid down. Tough talk, my charismatic friend.Llet’s see this play out, you Hugh lover, LOL.
January 5th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
John Herrera is my hero
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Stryker Sulak is my hero
January 5th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
Not sure what mike silver is having a tizzy about. they were fired, they know it. Who cares if it isn’t official until their contracts expire? Herrera is a fk stick though he is right about that
January 5th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
Mush, which way are you leaning on the o/u line for the Saints game?
January 5th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
DMAC Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
John Herrera is my hero
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Stryker Sulak is my hero
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Siddeeq Shabazz has a posse
January 5th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
DMAC….. With all respect…. Kiss My Ass! =D
January 5th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
lol
January 5th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
True story: Just Googled Siddeeq Shabazz and he’s actually a member of the Calgary Stampeders of the CFL…
…along with Ken-Yon Rambo.
WTF.
January 5th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
What’s the total?
I would think it would have to be close to 60.
I do believe however, that my Mush skills are strictly limited to picking winners. Totals don’t apply.
January 5th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
With all due respect: Chuck B can kiss his own A**!
January 5th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
But wheres Marcus Knight..
January 5th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
Chuck B is a great D-coordinator!
Get over it fellas!
January 5th, 2012 at 1:25 pm
475.DMAC Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
Chuck B is a great D-coordinator!
Get over it fellas!
LOL, you must have flashed back to my tailgates and smoked a little something something there….
January 5th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
Dell…pick an A’s game, but it has to be on a weekend, though!
January 5th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
I’m ghost!
Go A’s! (FK Beane, FK Wolf)
Go Dubs! (In Jackson’s we trust)
Go Cal Bears! (Fire Tedford)
Go Raiders! (hire a real GM)
January 5th, 2012 at 1:28 pm
The best and Heisman year for Palmer was 2002 with Norm Chow as the offensive coordinator.
A lot of people claim that Hue recruited Palmer into SC. That’s not true, most people say Palmer was going to SC regardless. Palmer spent his early years under Paul Hackett, supposedly a QB development specialist, but Palmer went nowhere until Chow and Pete Carroll came in to SC.
Palmer flourished under Chow, but even as he won the Heisman he has always been a interception machine. As I have always said about Palmer, and I’ve seen him since his Santa Margarita days, just like he’ll wow you with his throws he’ll kill you and break your heart with his bad decisions and interceptions. He’ll get you a lot of yards, but he’ll get you more losses than wins, just the men’s warehouse man says, I guarantee it.
Let’s say that Hue doesn’t panic, stays with next man up Boller or another scrub, and the Raiders finished at 5-11 or 6-10 (got to give Boller at least 1 or 2 wins).
So at # 9 or 10 in the draft next year, you could package the pick and another future pick or player, what kind of stud could you trade for that would make a definite difference next year?
Palmer would still be sitting on his couch. So Hue who wants and knows Palmer better than most, tells Carson to come in next year. Hue gets him for a 2nd, which was the going price, if Palmer didn’t work out at least you didn’t give up the store for him and strap your cap for the next years.
January 5th, 2012 at 1:30 pm
Come on Mush. You know how it works.
Over or under?
January 5th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
“Ok he quit in Cinn so what. I’ll judge him by what he does in a Oakland uniform. He came in with no pre season and gave a good effort and we scored enough to win most of the games we lost.
What more can you ask for?
If we had a competent DC we would be talking about Pitts coming to the O right now.
The end”
Great Post!
January 5th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
Saints 41
Lions 24
Do with it as you please
January 5th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
hwnrdr Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
Dell…pick an A’s game, but it has to be on a weekend, though!
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HWNRDR,
I will and it will be fun catch up with each other. B got the blues, need to have him snap out of it, soon.
I’m getting depressed again.
January 5th, 2012 at 1:34 pm
Bresnahan is OUT! Herrera should be responding soon
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/05/chuck-bresnahan-is-indeed-on-the-way-out/
January 5th, 2012 at 1:36 pm
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 1:30 pm
Come on Mush. You know how it works.
Over or under?
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Doctor weren’t you the loudest hoping he would lose to wiggle in the FFL championship, yet now you get chummy, wanting some free info on a bet!!!
Doctor, doctor, how could you.
January 5th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
Man I hope firing Bresnahan doesnt mess up our chances at re-signing Giordano..
January 5th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
He wanted to bet me money on the FF championship, but I was leery of exchanging any personal info with the “Dr.”
January 5th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
Later all of you Giordano fans in here. I’m out.
January 5th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
Foregone conclusion.
Hue hardly held back at his presser. Probably wanted to fire him after the Buff game.
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raiderdav Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 1:34 pm
Bresnahan is OUT! Herrera should be responding soon
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/05/chuck-bresnahan-is-indeed-on-the-way-out/
January 5th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
HWNRDR..HAVE TIX R YANKS ON 26-MAY.MAYBE WE CAN HOOK UP..
January 5th, 2012 at 1:41 pm
FOR YANKS HE MENT TO SAY..
January 5th, 2012 at 1:41 pm
483.Raider Dell Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
hwnrdr Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
Dell…pick an A’s game, but it has to be on a weekend, though!
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HWNRDR,
I will and it will be fun catch up with each other. B got the blues, need to have him snap out of it, soon.
I’m getting depressed again.
Dell, yo’re on!
January 5th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
490.DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
HWNRDR..HAVE TIX R YANKS ON 26-MAY.MAYBE WE CAN HOOK UP..
That sounds good!
January 5th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
So who do the faiders get to coach their terrible defense???
January 5th, 2012 at 1:44 pm
So with Herrera being who he is, is there any chance he gets replaced by the new GM?
January 5th, 2012 at 1:45 pm
DeuceDeuce Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
Man I hope firing Bresnahan doesnt mess up our chances at re-signing Giordano..
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Why would it?
January 5th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
YANKEE’S WILL HAVE 2 TWO TOCHDOWN LEAD BY 5TH INNING !!!
January 5th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
Dell,
The original Huff debate was about his ability to play CB. I said he was able to play CB in the NFL, and I mentioned that he did at Texas. Also said he is best suited to play like Sir Charles (not comparing the 2), but play FS, NB, and CB covering big WR. You said he wasn’t capable.
It that simple.
NFL coaches thinking he can play CB gives my side of the argument validation and credibility.
Don’t be like that? Get used to it. I will always win. lol
January 5th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
If Bresh is out, that means Hue still has substantial control. No doubt that was his call. Finally, we’re going to look like a real NFL defense. No more secondary looking lost, letting receivers run right by them.
January 5th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
So with Herrera being who he is, is there any chance he gets replaced by the new GM?
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Zero chance!
He is on the executive side of things, not football personnel side.
The only person who could probably fire John-John would be Mark or Amy.
January 5th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
Tebow Magic Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
So who do the faiders get to coach their terrible defense???
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I dunno, who will the Broncos get to coach their terrible QB?
January 5th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
Yeeeee!!!!
http://bit.ly/ACbpj6
January 5th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
Interesting game with the Falcons-Giants and what to think of each QB.
Eli is clearly a great QB, and almost on the elite level. He is in the conversation.
But really, he had one good playoff run, and every other year they have been 1 and done. That happens again this weekend, than what will we say?
Matty Ice is not elite or close yet, but 3 years and 3 playoff appearances. But if he is 0-3, than what?
Reputations are on the line with that one.
January 5th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
He is on the executive side of things, not football personnel side.
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Well, I would think that he wouldn’t be the spokesman, so to speak.
With a GM in place, I see no need to really ever hear from this guy again. And he really shouldn’t be in any position to deter any potential hires.
January 5th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
YANKEE’S WILL HAVE 2 TWO TOCHDOWN LEAD BY 5TH INNING !!!
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Hopefully three.
January 5th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
JFB,
Mark could “probably” fire Herrera? Mark is the owner and managing general partner of the football team. There’s no probably about it.
January 5th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
487.Just Fire Baby Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
He wanted to bet me money on the FF championship, but I was leery of exchanging any personal info with the “Dr.”
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That putz will just puss out at the end of a bet. Trust me.
January 5th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
That PFT article is the single most assholish thing I have ever read.
These people sell clicks by bashing the Raider organization, poorly written article that makes no sense other than to piss on our franchise.
Yes Bres will be fired once the front office is in place or once the time is right everyone knows that….but its not official yet.
What you have here is a bunch of derelict media hounds scraping for an Anti-Raider article to make us look dysfunctional in a transitional period.
Let us handle our business in a timely manner and stop scraping the bottom of the barrel to put out a smear campaign on our team you stupid troll of a writer!
January 5th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
I dunno, who will the Broncos get to coach their terrible QB?
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The QB with a home playoff spot and soon to be super bowl MVP ?
January 5th, 2012 at 1:55 pm
If Breshnehan’s out, Herrera probably already has been stripped of any kind of authority. I’m sure Mark will keep him around because he’s one of dad’s guys. Let him keep his title, strut around the building like he’s important. But when it comes to the decision making process for this football team, he’s out.
January 5th, 2012 at 1:55 pm
With a GM in place, I see no need to really ever hear from this guy again. And he really shouldn’t be in any position to deter any potential hires.
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He will be emceeing the GM hire press conference and event.
January 5th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
For all we know, Herrera may be Mark’s right-hand man.
Mark is more his age, maybe Mark likes him more than Al.
January 5th, 2012 at 2:01 pm
Raiders are not “firing” defensive coordinator Chuck Bresnahan and other 3 coaches until their contracts are up on Jan. 15
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hold your horses. 10 more days, gents!
January 5th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
We better be careful with how we handle the Tyvon Branch contract. Giordano will get double what Branch does..
January 5th, 2012 at 2:03 pm
Tebow Magic Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
I dunno, who will the Broncos get to coach their terrible QB?
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The QB with a home playoff spot and soon to be super bowl MVP ?
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Hey Fvckin douche bag ain’t there some loser Donkey blog yo can post to? I am sure they don’t want you on there as you have nothing to contribute, just like on this blog. You are like the dad of the kid that sucks who finally gets in the game and makes atackle.
January 5th, 2012 at 2:03 pm
Well, JFB, all we have is the team’s decisions and the incidents. They’re courting a Ron Wolf protege as GM…looks like Bresh (perennial Davis guy) is out. Herrera’s behavior with Kawakami would indicate he’s an Al guy as well, wouldn’t it? As far as Mark, he let’s Hue trade the farm for Carson Palmer. Tells me he’s not the Al guy like Herrera and Bresh are.
So, we have Bresh out. Ron Wolf protege on his way in to run football operations. Sounds to me like Herrera’s going to be fetching coffee, JFB.
January 5th, 2012 at 2:03 pm
509.Tebow Magic Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
I dunno, who will the Broncos get to coach their terrible QB?
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The QB with a home playoff spot and soon to be super bowl MVP ?
Dream the F on but dream somewhere else!
January 5th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
#517 Thats got my vote too.
What a fvckin dreamer
January 5th, 2012 at 2:08 pm
I wouldn’t be suprised if the Donkeys won this weekend, than lost by 30 to Baltimore.
January 5th, 2012 at 2:08 pm
508. Yup
January 5th, 2012 at 2:10 pm
ProFootballTalk;
Chuck Bresnahan Is Indeed on His Way Out’
Thank You GOD! Prayers answered. Amen.
January 5th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
Sounds to me like Herrera’s going to be fetching coffee, JFB
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who knows what a Senior Executive’s responsibilities are in Oakland?
Wolf suggests everything was very organized within the organization while he was employed by Al. Not sure what has changed since Al’s passing. Probably just guys doing the job they were hired to do without somebody coming in to trump the decisions at the last minute. Mark & Amy sign for the important stuff
Johnny boy doesn’t help Oakland win or lose football games and he’s not gonna scare away any potential GM’s or HC’s. Every team has guys like JH in the org, just probably not as hot tempered or outspoken. He’s easily replaceable, but loyal. Probably has close ties to Carol & Mark.
Suggesting that we pitch this guy and that makes us a better football team is dumber than pi$$ing on an electric fence imo. Raiders got bigger fish to fry!
January 5th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
Faux sports posted some BS story other day that was a blatant smear.
Faux always tries to smear what they fear and Oakland represents the rebel alliance.
They know we’re getting better and will be a legit threat in 2012
January 5th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
zopi Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 1:28 pm
The best and Heisman year for Palmer was 2002 with Norm Chow as the offensive coordinator.
A lot of people claim that Hue recruited Palmer into SC. That’s not true, most people say Palmer was going to SC regardless. Palmer spent his early years under Paul Hackett, supposedly a QB development specialist, but Palmer went nowhere until Chow and Pete Carroll came in to SC.
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Sounds familiar. Poor Jamarcus.
January 5th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
I wouldn’t be suprised if the Donkeys won this weekend, than lost by 30 to Baltimore.
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Denver can win if they can run the football, control the clock and avoid costly turnovers.
None of those things will be easy to do versus Pittsburgh or Baltimore defenses – two of the best in the league
January 5th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
A Robert gallery and a Mike Mitchell for Carson Palmer I’ll take that deal, our 1 st and 2 nd round picks usually blow except for late dmac,dhb,wiz,houston,romac jurry is still out .
January 5th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
Johnny boy doesn’t help Oakland win or lose football games and he’s not gonna scare away any potential GM’s or HC’s.
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“Johnny Boy” exemplified behavior in a press conference a few years ago that would scare any sane GM or coach away from Oakland. Take the blinders off.
January 5th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
The Oakland Raiders are indeed parting ways with Chuck Bresnahan, Rod Woodson and two others as it turns out.
The team initially denied a report that Bresnahan and company were fired earlier in the week.
Technically the denial was accurate.
But Michael Silver of Yahoo! Sports reports the group was informed they will not be retained next season. Interestingly enough, the coaches are requiring the group to work for two more weeks effective from the final game.
Silver then proceeded to scold the team for their treatment of staff.
“This is why a lot of established coaches don’t want to work for [the] Raiders,” he tweeted. “They play games, instead of just manning up and firing people.”
He also personally bashed Raiders senior PR man John Herrera.
“No NFL ‘executive’ is a bigger tool than Herrera,” Silver added.
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When is Herrara gone?
January 5th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
STFU Dakotex, The only bet we ever had I won.
January 5th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
Michael Silver = sissy
I’m sure John Herrera would love this guy to show up at the GM hiring press conf and say it to his face
January 5th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
Anyone else catch the Herd this morning?
Had some collegiate writer-guy on their talking about how in a few years, you will see a major switch in talent level to WR’s and DB’s and out of RB’s.
Basically WR’s and DB’s are making more money and having longer careers in the Pro’s than RB’s, and that you can see at the HS levels now, that NOBODY WANTS TO PLAY RB.
All the elite talents at a young age are being told to be a WR, and whatever you do, don’t be a RB.
Thought it was interesting.
January 5th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
Have we signed Reggie yet? Would love to start the new year on a good note.
January 5th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
Chuck B,,check!
John Hererra,,,
January 5th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
Have we re-signed Giordano yet??..
January 5th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
Post 531….makes perfect sense. Better yet, those TE’s should start learning how to play basketball. A journeyman big man makes a whole lot more guaranteed than a short lived TE.
January 5th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
Branch and Gio are your starting safeties next year, with Huff going to CB.
January 5th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
aig-raiders Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
Branch and Gio are your starting safeties next year, with Huff going to CB.
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If that happens we take no better than 3rd in the AFC West.
January 5th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
529.Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
STFU Dakotex, The only bet we ever had I won.
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True, but when it came time for me to pay up you wussed out, too scared to give me your address. What a vag you are lol
January 5th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
behavior in a press conference a few years ago that would scare any sane GM or coach away from Oakland
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John Herrera is an American football executive who currently serves as a Senior Executive with the Oakland Raiders.
A former Raiders ballboy, Herrera re-joined the team in 1978 as Director of Public Relations after serving as the first scout employed by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Herrera left the Raiders in 1982 to become Director of Player-Personnel for the BC Lions of the Canadian Football League and later that year was named General Manager of the Saskatchewan Roughriders.
Herrera returned to the Raiders in 1985 with his current title. His duties as Senior Executive have included working as the team’s travel and camp coordinator and serving as the Raiders chief negotiator during their failed move to Irwindale, California
January 5th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
I believe John-John won a Grey Cup with the Roughriders as the GM.
January 5th, 2012 at 2:26 pm
540.Just Fire Baby Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
I believe John-John won a Grey Cup with the Roughriders as the GM.
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Maybe our next GM is right under our noses? GM Herrera…..I would drop the Raiders if that happened.
January 5th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
At least we know Mark is telling Reggie that the organization will be in LA soon, which could be a little help in swaying him away from the Chicago job.
January 5th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
Raiders Quietly Have Put Down Roots in the Gravel of Irwindale
I came away convinced that the Raiders are still serious about anchoring their floating franchise in this strange little oasis of dust and smog and man-made craters. I think a lot of people still see Irwindale as Al Davis’ version of a poker bluff, something he can throw down on the table in order to get himself a better deal in renting the Coliseum, and I wanted to see for myself what the Raiders’ operation here looked like.
“That (deal with MCA) really has no affect on us at all,” said John Herrera, a Raider senior executive and commander of the Irwindale outpost. “We maintain that when we are legally free to leave the Coliseum, we will do so, that there is no valid reason for the (Irwindale) stadium not being built. We’ve worked too hard, won too many battles, made too much progress, not to go forward.”
[Xavier Hermosillo] arrived in a car bearing license plates, “IM MR X.” His wardrobe was accessorized with a mammoth silver Raider belt buckle and a tiny Raider lapel pin. He flashed a Raider money clip and mentioned that he owns an official Raider telephone, patio umbrella, mailbox, trash can and ashtray. He seems not to take himself seriously, but to take the Raiders and their Irwindale project very seriously.
-Scott Ostler (05/11/1988)
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Xavier Hermosillo for GM ???
January 5th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
Maybe our next GM is right under our noses? GM Herrera…..I would drop the Raiders if that happened.
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LOL!
Herrera bleeds Silver & Black. He’s been with the team off and on as an adult in a high functioning capacity for 35 years. Longer than that if you count the ballboy experience
January 5th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
Mark Davis to Hue Jackson:
“Alright we’ve got a few solid GM choices here. Matt Millen or John Herrera. Take your pick.”
If Herrera is the guy, Chuck is your DC.
If Millen is the guy, he’s got a few DC candidates in mind that he worked with in his 8-year tenure as Lions GM
January 5th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
DeuceDeuce Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
aig-raiders Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
Branch and Gio are your starting safeties next year, with Huff going to CB.
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If that happens we take no better than 3rd in the AFC West.
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I have no problem with Gio. I think he is the least of our problems. They need 2 legit CBs and stop having our safety and MLB covering the other team’s top WR.
IMO, things we need.
1. Better DC.
2. Better LB’s.
3. Better CB plays. Routt is so overrated. It’s sad to see Raider fans make excuses after excuses for him. 17 penalties and 7 TDs. 5 of those TDs are on the slant and corner routes in the redzone. Dude doesnt even turn around to play the ball. What top level legit DB in this league doesnt turn around to play the ball?
January 5th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
Anyone else catch the Herd this morning?
Had some collegiate writer-guy on their talking about how in a few years, you will see a major switch in talent level to WR’s and DB’s and out of RB’s.
Basically WR’s and DB’s are making more money and having longer careers in the Pro’s than RB’s, and that you can see at the HS levels now, that NOBODY WANTS TO PLAY RB.
All the elite talents at a young age are being told to be a WR, and whatever you do, don’t be a RB.
Thought it was interesting.
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Of course most kids wanted to play Q too. Until their peewee, high school and college coaches told them to get on the line and block somebody.
January 5th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
Think Giordano can pull off GM duties???..
January 5th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
Pretty impressive on the Raiders to be able to nab a General Manager from the Canadian Football league, and put him in charge of Folgers duties and co-ordinating travel.
January 5th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
Breaking_Black Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
At least we know Mark is telling Reggie that the organization will be in LA soon, which could be a little help in swaying him away from the Chicago job.
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True. But when he is talking “organization” he means the Dischargers. Certainly not the Raiders.
January 5th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
Im looking online and I cant find any Giordano jerseys…??.. Must be all sold out..
January 5th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
Dousssshe…. Loser…. Bye Bye John….. http://raiderchaos.blogspot.com/2012/01/bye-john-you-loser-tool.html
January 5th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
Well, if McKenzie doesn’t interview with any other teams, then we know he came to an understanding with the Raiders and will be our next GM. he may have already given the team the thumbs up to fire the defensive coaching staff and that is why it is now public knowledge.
Or none of that might be true lol.
January 5th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
Think Giordano can pull off GM duties???..
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He is too busy leading his team in timely big-plays and interceptions.
January 5th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
516.Sullivan44 Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 2:03 pm
Well, JFB, all we have is the team’s decisions and the incidents. They’re courting a Ron Wolf protege as GM…looks like Bresh (perennial Davis guy) is out. Herrera’s behavior with Kawakami would indicate he’s an Al guy as well, wouldn’t it? As far as Mark, he let’s Hue trade the farm for Carson Palmer. Tells me he’s not the Al guy like Herrera and Bresh are.
So, we have Bresh out. Ron Wolf protege on his way in to run football operations. Sounds to me like Herrera’s going to be fetching coffee, JFB.
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Just as you believe that anything good Al Davis ever did came from Ron Wolf, so I now believe that anything bad Al Davis ever did came from John Herrera.
And I have exactly as much proof as you do. Fact.
January 5th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
Think Giordano can pull off GM duties???..
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He is too busy leading his team in timely big-plays and interceptions.
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And trying hard…dont forget trying hard.
January 5th, 2012 at 2:40 pm
Dakotex, you are too dumb too realize when you are BEAT.
January 5th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
Anyone else catch the Herd this morning?
Had some collegiate writer-guy on their talking about how in a few years, you will see a major switch in talent level to WR’s and DB’s and out of RB’s.
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Pretty easy to predict that one with the spread offenses working their way up.
January 5th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
557.Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 2:40 pm
Dakotex, you are too dumb too realize when you are BEAT.
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Riiiiiight, what ever you say dear Dr. lol
January 5th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
I’m a Vag because I won’t give my address out to some mentally challenged hick I’ve never met???
January 5th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
And trying hard…dont forget trying hard.
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Unfortunately, trying hard isn’t a prerequisite to get playing time with our defense.
Let’s get a good rotation of 16-17 guys who all “try hard” than we can start getting rid of the lesser talented guys.
Deal?
January 5th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
Only people who squat to pee use lol.
January 5th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
Dakota Says:
Well, if McKenzie doesn’t interview with any other teams, then we know he came to an understanding with the Raiders and will be our next GM. he may have already given the team the thumbs up to fire the defensive coaching staff and that is why it is now public knowledge.
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If everything has gone down in that manner – a complete lack of pragmatism – then nothing changed with Al’s death and we can look forward to another decade of misery.
January 5th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
Think Giordano can pull off GM duties???..
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He is too busy leading his team in timely big-plays and interceptions.
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And he lead the Defense in INTs thats it. Not big plays. Not the team.
He lead one of THE WORST DEFENSES IN THE HISTORY OF THE NFL in INTs.
January 5th, 2012 at 2:45 pm
DeuceDeuce Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
Im looking online and I cant find any Giordano jerseys…??.. Must be all sold out..
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Try looking next to the Trev Scott jerseys.
January 5th, 2012 at 2:45 pm
Pretty impressive on the Raiders to be able to nab a General Manager from the Canadian Football league, and put him in charge of Folgers duties and co-ordinating travel
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no kidding!
January 5th, 2012 at 2:45 pm
I don’t think there has ever been a question that Bresnahan was going to be let go.
I kind of feel sorry for Herrera, though. All this organization has done is asked him to lie for them. That’s his job. To lie for the Oakland Raiders. And they’re usually not even good lies. They’re obvious, terrible lies where EVERYONE knows better. But what are you going to do if you’re Herrera? Quit? Hell no. Why would any other team hire him? All he can do is be the mouthpiece of an organization that wants him to tell stupid, pointless lies.
January 5th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
I love MUSH.
I respect his gift.
Thanks Mush.
January 5th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
Deuce Deuce is starting to sound like BSJ does with Condo.
January 5th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
562.Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
Only people who squat to pee use lol.
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Keep trying there little guy……use your imagination….you can do it….I know that I.E.P. you were on through school will pay off someday.
January 5th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
one of THE WORST DEFENSES IN THE HISTORY OF THE NFL in INTs.
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Let’s not overstate things.
It wasn’t even the worst ranked defensive team in the NFL this year, in any major statistical category.
They sucked by all accounts, but they only averaged giving up a FG more per game than last year.
January 5th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
552. U mispelled douche.
If you want to check out a REAL Raider site go to RNS. Best insight outside of IBA.
Good job on Raiderin it up though. Keep it up man and GO RAIDERS!!!
January 5th, 2012 at 2:53 pm
John Herrera and Amy Trask have been with the Raiders organization for many many years. One could easily say that they were both mentored and schooled in the Al Davis mode, whatever one saw in Trask and Herrera, as an outsider, was a reflection of Mr. Davis, nothing new there.
As well, nothing new on Silver and Kakawami, as well as most of the Bay Area cess, err, press pool, relations with the Raiders organization and Mr. Davis.
January 5th, 2012 at 2:53 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
Deuce Deuce is starting to sound like BSJ does with Condo.
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Condo is a Pro Bowler. But he still cant hold “Gio’s” jock.
January 5th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
one of THE WORST DEFENSES IN THE HISTORY OF THE NFL in INTs.
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Let’s not overstate things.
It wasn’t even the worst ranked defensive team in the NFL this year, in any major statistical category.
They sucked by all accounts, but they only averaged giving up a FG more per game than last year.
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The Raiders had franchise worsts in touchdown passes allowed (31), yards per carry (5.1), yards passing (4,262) and total yards (6,201), while giving up the third-most points (433) in team history.
Oakland joined this year’s Tampa Bay team as two of the four teams to allow at least 30 TD passes and 5.0 yards per carry in a season, a distinction achieved previously by only the 1950 Baltimore Colts and 1952 Dallas Texans. The Raiders also became the sixth team since the 1970 merger to allow at least 2,000 yards rushing and 4,000 yards passing in a season.
January 5th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
Silver might be licking his wounds a little.
He predicted the Raiders would go the AFC championship game this year.
January 5th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
Giordano was the heart & soul, emotional leader and “tried the hardest” on this….—>
The Raiders had franchise worsts in touchdown passes allowed (31), yards per carry (5.1), yards passing (4,262) and total yards (6,201), while giving up the third-most points (433) in team history.
Oakland joined this year’s Tampa Bay team as two of the four teams to allow at least 30 TD passes and 5.0 yards per carry in a season, a distinction achieved previously by only the 1950 Baltimore Colts and 1952 Dallas Texans. The Raiders also became the sixth team since the 1970 merger to allow at least 2,000 yards rushing and 4,000 yards passing in a season.
January 5th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
When it came to 2011, 4 teams gave up more points per game, 3 teams gave up more total yards, 5 teams gave up more passing yards per game, and 4 teams gave up more rushing yards per game.
January 5th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
Deuce,
So what happens when Gio leaves this season and our defense still sucks in 2012?
Will you shut the f up than?
January 5th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
When it came to 2011, 4 teams gave up more points per game, 3 teams gave up more total yards, 5 teams gave up more passing yards per game, and 4 teams gave up more rushing yards per game.
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Oakland joined this year’s Tampa Bay team as two of the four teams to allow at least 30 TD passes and 5.0 yards per carry in a season, a distinction achieved previously by only the 1950 Baltimore Colts and 1952 Dallas Texans. The Raiders also became the sixth team since the 1970 merger to allow at least 2,000 yards rushing and 4,000 yards passing in a season.
EPIC FAILURE OF A DEFENSE
January 5th, 2012 at 3:00 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
Deuce,
So what happens when Gio leaves this season and our defense still sucks in 2012?
Will you shut the f up than?
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What happens if he leaves and we become better?
Will you remove his nuts from your mouth?
January 5th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
He’s a backup FS, for chrissakes. The problem isn’t the backups. It’s having highly-paid starters who can’t get it done.
January 5th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
So who does the faiders draft with their next 1st round pick in 2020 ???
January 5th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
He doesn’t like white, bald and talented back up safeties.
January 5th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
Not good enough to be a backup in my book. I dont give a rats butt about 5 INTs. How about the 40 bad angles that lead to TDs or huge gains.
He’s mediocre at his very best and has no place on a team.
But he tries hard.
January 5th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
morilla Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
He doesn’t like white, bald and talented
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I have no problem with Matt Bowen.
Giordano on the other hand lacks the last attribute.
January 5th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
So what does Pat Bowlen do when he realizes that John Elway, after he trades away Tebow, is not a real GM?
January 5th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
It’s a great day to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?!
560.Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
I’m a Vag because I won’t give my address out to some mentally challenged hick I’ve never met???
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No. You just are.
January 5th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
I kind of feel sorry for Herrera, though. All this organization has done is asked him to lie for them. That’s his job. To lie for the Oakland Raiders. And they’re usually not even good lies. They’re obvious, terrible lies where EVERYONE knows better. But what are you going to do if you’re Herrera? Quit? Hell no. Why would any other team hire him? All he can do is be the mouthpiece of an organization that wants him to tell stupid, pointless lies.
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YA = stud blogger
January 5th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
Young American, you are correct it is not because of Mr. Giordano, Mr. Groves, Mr. Bryant (what, $2 million total between the three players) that we did not hold opponents from scoring drives of 97,98, & 99 yards; any one those stops we are in the playoffs;
it is because of Mr. Seymour’s, Mr. Routt’s, & Mr. Wimbley’s $10 million plus contracts, they got paid for this season.
January 5th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
You blamed him for the horrendous coverage on Megatron with McClain when it wasn’t even Gio! Anything you say is invalid. You have some beef with him, you are blinded by your hatred towards the great Gio.
January 5th, 2012 at 3:12 pm
The fact Giordano had to play when he couldn’t make the practice squads of all the other teams he was with shows how depleted our secondary was.
No one could’ve worked miracles with that roster. No one.
January 5th, 2012 at 3:12 pm
Raiders’ QBs for 2012 season:
Flynn?
Palmer?
Campbell?
Pryor?
Raiders sign Flynn as an UDFA (Packers will franchise Finley), therefore Flynn will be available, and Mr. McKenzie will give the Raiders the inside track on this free agent signing.
Trade Mr. Palmer for one first round & trade Mr. Pryor for another first round.
January 5th, 2012 at 3:13 pm
morilla Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
You blamed him for the horrendous coverage on Megatron with McClain when it wasn’t even Gio! Anything you say is invalid. You have some beef with him, you are blinded by your hatred towards the great Gio.
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1 play. And the validity of my statements on the internet obviously dont mean as much to me as they do to you. Its the internet. Say what you will.
January 5th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 3:12 pm
Raiders’ QBs for 2012 season:
Flynn?
Palmer?
Campbell?
Pryor?
Raiders sign Flynn as an UDFA (Packers will franchise Finley), therefore Flynn will be available, and Mr. McKenzie will give the Raiders the inside track on this free agent signing.
Trade Mr. Palmer for one first round & trade Mr. Pryor for another first round.
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At which point do you realize your playing Madden?..
January 5th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
What happens if he leaves and we become better?
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Is that going to be just because he left?
Your sitting here and whining on and on about a part-time starter, and as if the ypc total of our run D is on him?
Get a grip!!
January 5th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
Mr. Giordano lead the Raiders in interceptions with 5, and he was not even a starter most of the season.
Matt made plays.
January 5th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
DueceDoubleDown, I’m just dreaming right now!
January 5th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
What happens if he leaves and we become better?
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Is that going to be just because he left?
Your sitting here and whining on and on about a part-time starter, and as if the ypc total of our run D is on him?
Get a grip!!
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Im complaining about the worst player on our EPICLY bad defense. Yes.
Glad you can decipher that.
Oh, but he tries hard.
January 5th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
Herrera??
Unless he’s done something that Mark or Amy just can’t tolerate, he’s likely to stay right where he’s at for awhile.
Mark Davis is son of one of the most loyal men the NFL has ever known (loyal to a fault, even according to Al himself). For decades, Mark has seen the loyalty, and complete devotion, Herrera’s shown his father and the Raiders.
Like him or not, even if he no longer is Team spokesperson once we add a GM, Herrera might always have a job with the Raiders…just not as visible.
January 5th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
DueceDoubleDown, I’m just dreaming right now!
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I wish your dreams were reality brother.
January 5th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
I would even be happy with two 2nd round picks, if they are in the front half of the round.
January 5th, 2012 at 3:19 pm
Gio is a baller and we need more of those!
January 5th, 2012 at 3:19 pm
And to discount the 5 int’s is crazy!!!
We just had a game, where the ONLY FKN time our defense got off the field, is when he intercepted a pass.
If Rivers just went and passed on Lito Sunday, he might have went 31 of 33 for 485 yards and 6 TD’s.
Lito was the horrible one!! And MM34’s TD?? Routt getting flagged repeatedly??
But damnd that Gio guy!!! If only he could have 15 interceptions, this D might have a chance!!
January 5th, 2012 at 3:21 pm
Pryor will be trade fodder next year for sure. Just not sure his value or anyone who would want him.
January 5th, 2012 at 3:21 pm
This is the equivalent of ragging on Brandon Myers or Chaz Schilens for any of our offensive deficiencies.
January 5th, 2012 at 3:25 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 3:21 pm
This is the equivalent of ragging on Brandon Myers or Chaz Schilens for any of our offensive deficiencies.
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Its the equivalent of ragging on the worst guy on one of the worst Defenses ever.
Him & Sheppard go neck and neck.
January 5th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
Pryor will be trade fodder next year for sure. Just not sure his value or anyone who would want him
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Players are rarely traded in season, and QB’s almost never.
Without seeming some “film” on him on the NFL level, we couldn’t get a hill of beans for him.
January 5th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
Its the equivalent of ragging on the worst guy on one of the worst Defenses ever.
Him & Sheppard go neck and neck.
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Once Sheppard was here, he was on the field a helluva lot more than Gio.
January 5th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
He picked Orton off 2 times..
Rivers 2 times..
& Ponder..
Those guys combined for around 50 picks this year.
Blows me socks right off.
Oh, but he tries hard.
January 5th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
We should give DeAngelo Hall a call back.. he sure can rack up some INTs..
January 5th, 2012 at 3:28 pm
Raiders sign Flynn as an UDFA (Packers will franchise Finley), therefore Flynn will be available, and Mr. McKenzie will give the Raiders the inside track on this free agent signing.
Trade Mr. Palmer for one first round & trade Mr. Pryor for another first round.
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Are you high?
January 5th, 2012 at 3:29 pm
Giordano should be kept as a special teams player and a backup.
January 5th, 2012 at 3:30 pm
He picked Orton off 2 times..
Rivers 2 times..
& Ponder..
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That’s about the same crew that Routt picked off this year, throwing in Caleb Hanie for good measure.
Who did Lito and Boyd pick off again?
January 5th, 2012 at 3:30 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
Pryor will be trade fodder next year for sure. Just not sure his value or anyone who would want him
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Players are rarely traded in season, and QB’s almost never.
Without seeming some “film” on him on the NFL level, we couldn’t get a hill of beans for him.
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Maybe Herrera could make a nice queso bean dip out of those beans for Reggie to enjoy.
January 5th, 2012 at 3:30 pm
It is 65 degrees outside right now in Hot Springs. WTF is going on? One snowfall and Spring-like weather into January.
Global warming?
January 5th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
DeuceDeuce Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
morilla Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
He doesn’t like white, bald and talented
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I have no problem with Matt Bowen.
Giordano on the other hand lacks the last attribute.
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Gio’s not white?
January 5th, 2012 at 3:32 pm
Giordano is kinda like Tebow, except for the over-the-top preaching, of course:
He’s exhibits poor footwork and technique(s), and constantly finds himself out of position…and somehow ends up with the ball in his hands at crunch-time.
Love the 100% effort Gio gives…but not sold on his abilities just yet. Plus, he’s a Safety who’s always chasing guys down from behind. Trying to, anyway. Can’t teach speed.
January 5th, 2012 at 3:33 pm
#617 – woops, ignore. Read too fast on this dam small phone screen.
January 5th, 2012 at 3:33 pm
I’d rather spend my time talking about lackluster effort from Seymour and McClain, inconsistency from Curry, Wimbley, and Huff, or lack of discipline from Routt and Kelly.
For me? The backup FS – the guy who led the team in interceptions and is a savvy veteran and vocal leader, even without being a starter and being far from the most talented or most highly paid guy on the team – is WAY down the list of things that need to be fixed with this team.
Again, Deuce. Look through the list of free agent free safeties. Hell, look at other teams’ rosters and find me a FS who is #2 on the depth chart that is a clear upgrade over Giordano. Hey, if the guy is still under contract for 2012, maybe the Raiders could swing a trade for a backup FS and all their defensive ills will be cured.
The only backup FS I can think of who has more talent than Giordano is Jarrad Page. But lately he hasn’t done a whole lot in spite of his physical skills. Cut by the Eagles, mid-season replacement for the Vikings.
January 5th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
Mark davis needs to take this slow… ron wolf talking up McKenzie is all well n good… but greenbay has a horrible defense. .as a matter a fact.. their near the bottom as far as defense is concerned. … the raiders problems come more from the defensive side of the ball… I would take a good look at personnel from Pittsburgh or Baltimore. ….those teams are always in the thick of things… greenbay I predict will eventually falter with their sorry defense. .. we need the right Guy here… not some Guy that should be given the job just because ron wolf says so…
January 5th, 2012 at 3:39 pm
Since when did a guy who is on his 6th team in 5 years become a savvy veteran?
That right there is one of the most ignorant statments ive read on this blog.
January 5th, 2012 at 3:40 pm
I wouldn’t bat an eye if Gio is not retained, and probably crack an Italian joke and laugh it off.
But to think he was at the top of the list of this D’s woes is laughable.
He sucks, but at least he made a few plays, and didn’t play all the time.
Everyone else just sucked, never made any plays, and played all the time.
January 5th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
We have 1 safety worth a roster spot. The other was recently converted to CB, that will fail.
January 5th, 2012 at 3:42 pm
I’d take Green Bay’s defense in a second. The gaudy stats against them are one thing, but they have players who make plays when they need to. Matthews, Woodson, Williams… hopefully Nick Collins’ career isn’t over. Losing him was huge.
January 5th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
This Gio stuff is almost as lame as Mistic 1’s Jason Campbell debates.
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Or a post draft Frantz Joseph love fest.
January 5th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
So…MM34 and TyBranch won’t be the Safety pairing for the Raiders?
What FA and/or 2012 draft Safeties should we look at? (Limited draft picks at this point notwithstanding.)
January 5th, 2012 at 3:45 pm
Only players I hope definately return:
Mr. Vehldeer,
Mr. Wisniewski,
Mr. Ford,
Mr. Moore,
Mr. Reece,
Mr. Shaughnessy,
Mr. Bryant,
Mr. Curry,
Mr. Branch,
These nine are the key to the Raider’s success.
There are about twenty other players that are important as well, and should either make the roster or be traded, as they have value:
WR) Mr. Heyward-Be & Mr. Murphy
TE) Mr. Boss, Mr. Meyers, Mr. Gordon, & Mr. Ausberry
I truly think it would be to our advantage to keep all four, but anyone should get us respectable draft picks,
OL) Mr. Carlisle [he had a great season], Mr. Satele, & Mr. Barksdale,
RB) Mr. McFadden & Mr. Jones
QB) Mr. Palmer & Mr. Pryor
ST) Mr. Janokowski, Mr. Lechler, & Mr. Condo
DL) Mr. Seymour, Mr. Houston, Mr. Kelley,
LB) Mr. McClain (absolute must trade),
DB) Mr. Huff, Mr. Routt, Mr. Mitchell, Mr. Giordano, Mr. VanDyke
These 25 players are sure to make the 53-man roster, although restructured contracts are a must for anyone over $2 million a season, and I would expect (if not at least hope) 5-10 of these players are traded.
of the other 20 or so players, I expect some to retire: Mr. Cartwright, Mr. Houshmenzadeh, & Mr. Henderson; or I know are free agents: Mr. Jason Campbell who I do hope the Raiders resign at least as a backup, even for the same $4 million a season or two; when another teams starter goes down, we would at least get a 3rd-4th round pick.
January 5th, 2012 at 3:45 pm
HayesDaze37 Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
So…MM34 and TyBranch won’t be the Safety pairing for the Raiders?
What FA and/or 2012 draft Safeties should we look at? (Limited draft picks at this point notwithstanding.)
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I dont see MM34 in the plans for the future. I dont even think he’s ever been in coverage as a safety, and not covering a TE.
January 5th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
We can talk about the Dubs beating the Lakers tomorrow and hopefully seeing Bynum’s knee cap explode at mid-court!!
January 5th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
Dakota
70 in Mitchell today and we havent had any snow yet. I dont say “global warming” anymore cuz the first time its cold some moron says “Global Warming eh? I say, climate change. And yes.
January 5th, 2012 at 3:48 pm
I dont even think he’s ever been in coverage as a safety, and not covering a TE.
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Last year, Dwayne Bowe ended up lined up MM34 at the end of the KC home game, and the “Missile” threw a hissy-fight pre-snap before getting schooled for a TD.
January 5th, 2012 at 3:48 pm
I’d like to see what MM34 looks like deeper, facing the Offense. He had a reputation as a heat-seeking missile…and I liked his aggressive attacks on ball-carriers in college. I’d like to see how he reacts playing the outfield for the Raiders…I’m betting on Al having his pick right.
January 5th, 2012 at 3:48 pm
DeuceDeuce Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 3:39 pm
Since when did a guy who is on his 6th team in 5 years become a savvy veteran?
That right there is one of the most ignorant statments ive read on this blog.
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He was frequently in the right place at the right time. More often than every other DB on the roster except for maybe Branch.
He’s not a solid tackler, though, and his footwork and hips aren’t fluid enough to change direction effectively. He’s far from the most talented guy in the world. But at least he knows where he needs to be, which is more than I can say for most of the starters.
He’s a backup. He shouldn’t be on the field in crucial situations. Even still, he performed better than every other defensive back. Remember, he wasn’t the one who allowed 90% of the passes his way (Sheppard) or allowed 9 TDs (Routt). And if the front seven does their job, the Raiders don’t have to worry about a backup FS making open field tackles.
You have yet to find a better option than Giordano for backup safety. Until you do that, you have no argument.
Again, if you want to b**** about the defense, start with the guys who are SUPPOSED to be on the field and still can’t make plays when they need to.
January 5th, 2012 at 3:50 pm
MM doesnt seem fast enough in the NFL. I think his hitting is a tad over rated also.
He’s no “Gio” either.
Although he did pick the MVP Aaron Rodgers off!!! SO…he must be awesome!!!!!
January 5th, 2012 at 3:51 pm
631.Forrest Hump Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
Dakota
70 in Mitchell today and we havent had any snow yet. I dont say “global warming” anymore cuz the first time its cold some moron says “Global Warming eh? I say, climate change. And yes.
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You are not from Mitchell! Are you? What Museum is across the street from the Corn Palace? And what Elementary School used to be just north of the Corn Palace?
January 5th, 2012 at 3:52 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 3:48 pm
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Hey Captain Obvious, I dont know if you noticed or not but I havent, nor am I going to look up safeties. So you can put that weak point back in you hanky pocket. I’d rather give the roster spot to Marquis Cooper’s pigeon.
January 5th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
Dakota Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 3:51 pm
631.Forrest Hump Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
Dakota
70 in Mitchell today and we havent had any snow yet. I dont say “global warming” anymore cuz the first time its cold some moron says “Global Warming eh? I say, climate change. And yes.
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You are not from Mitchell! Are you? What Museum is across the street from the Corn Palace? And what Elementary School used to be just north of the Corn Palace?
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There used to be a dollhouse museum across the street from the worlds biggest bird feeder, and there is still a school just N of the Corn Palace that also has a rec center attatched to it. I also attended Whittier Elementary back in the day, which is right on 2nd and Sanborn.
What else can I answer for you??
January 5th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
Corn Palace???????
LMAO
January 5th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
Im not convinced that wasnt Gradkowski playing Safety this whole time anyways..
January 5th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
Well Deuce, the key to replacing Giordano is finding someone to fill his roster spot, yes? And since Giordano is so bad, you would have no problem finding a backup FS who, for a similar amount of money, would cover just as well and not miss tackles, correct? You want a backup FS who performs like a starter. So find one. I’m waiting. Otherwise your argument is pointless.
January 5th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
Raiders need to draft linebackers, good year for rookie linebacker class, only a couple of stars, but a lot of blue chippers from what I’ve read (NFP.com, Bleacher Report).
Raiders are solid on the OLine, but could improve, I would be happy if all eight returned, but would like to see the Raiders sign Gaither, Nicks, or another quality veteran;
Raiders are solid at WR, 4 deep even, Reggie Wayne would be a great asset to play alongside Mr. Ford, Mr. Moore, Mr. Heyward-Bey, & Mr. Murphy= Raiders would have their 5 man WR set,
Raiders are solid at TE:would like to see us keep all four as stated earlier, but if we were to get a 3rd rounder for one of them (2nd for Mr. Boss) that would be an excellent trade. Having Mr. Gordon as a fullback in goal line situations is a plus.
QB- stable with Mr. Palmer and Mr. Pryor under contract for the next three seasons.
Kicking game, best in the NFL.
DL- sold, but some of the best have plenty of miles
LB- so damn weak, even weaker than our secondary,
DB- Branch, & Company need football players, no more track stars. For all the speed we have in the secondary, we play way to grand coulee hoover slow.
January 5th, 2012 at 3:57 pm
638.Forrest Hump Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
Dakota Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 3:51 pm
631.Forrest Hump Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
Dakota
70 in Mitchell today and we havent had any snow yet. I dont say “global warming” anymore cuz the first time its cold some moron says “Global Warming eh? I say, climate change. And yes.
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You are not from Mitchell! Are you? What Museum is across the street from the Corn Palace? And what Elementary School used to be just north of the Corn Palace?
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There used to be a dollhouse museum across the street from the worlds biggest bird feeder, and there is still a school just N of the Corn Palace that also has a rec center attatched to it. I also attended Whittier Elementary back in the day, which is right on 2nd and Sanborn.
What else can I answer for you??
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What restaurant used to be just north of I-90 by exit 332? On the East side of the road?
January 5th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
Keep an eye on FSU LB Nigel Bradham and Texas LB Keenan Robinson as possible 3rd/4th round picks.
January 5th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
639.Just Fire Baby Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
Corn Palace???????
LMAO
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Yeah, a palace of Corn, you are jealous I can tell!
January 5th, 2012 at 3:59 pm
but all pigeons do is poop.
January 5th, 2012 at 3:59 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
Well Deuce, the key to replacing Giordano is finding someone to fill his roster spot, yes? And since Giordano is so bad, you would have no problem finding a backup FS who, for a similar amount of money, would cover just as well and not miss tackles, correct? You want a backup FS who performs like a starter. So find one. I’m waiting. Otherwise your argument is pointless.
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The key to replacing him is sending a fax out to any and all Player Agents saying “We want to sign a FS, anyone will do”
January 5th, 2012 at 4:00 pm
For your viewing pleasure Vegas:
http://i.usatoday.net/travel/_photos/2007/09/28/corn-palace-topper.jpg
January 5th, 2012 at 4:00 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 3:59 pm
but all pigeons do is poop.
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They take better angles when pooping though.
January 5th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
AD told hue to convert huff into cb before he died and that to was our future qb, he was als last freak athlete pick so Pryor ain’t going anywhere. As long as hue is here he will obey als wishes and he probably made Mark aware of that. No doubt would al Davis not make the deal for Carson, 6-5, USC,drops bomb….., he is a 2-3 yr fix , tp is future.
January 5th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
The key to replacing him is sending a fax out to any and all Player Agents saying “We want to sign a FS, anyone will do”
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Like Madieu Williams, who can’t cover or tackle? Like Steve Gregory, who can’t cover or tackle? Why are these guys preferable to Matt Giordano?
January 5th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
DeuceDeuce Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
Im not convinced that wasnt Gradkowski playing Safety this whole time anyways..
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LOL
January 5th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
I have no problem keeping Gio as a back up safety in dime packages, he makes plays, he does get burned as he did by Knox, he is not a starter, but a decent and solid backup.
January 5th, 2012 at 4:02 pm
Put the entire list of available FS’s in a hat and draw one out… and tah-dah!!! You have found your replacement for “Gio”..
January 5th, 2012 at 4:02 pm
Albert Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
DeuceDeuce Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
Im not convinced that wasnt Gradkowski playing Safety this whole time anyways..
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LOL
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fofl, that was funny as hell, chalk that one up on this blog’s hall of fame one liners
January 5th, 2012 at 4:03 pm
Come on Forrest Hump! What restaurant!
January 5th, 2012 at 4:03 pm
643
Used to just be Al’s I-90 I think??? I’m not super sure, the only times I went there were after being drunk at the Jackpot, which is a half block SE of the Corn Palace on Main St. The Jackpot had its last day in business on NYE. I was there to shut er down. I can assure you that I am from there. I grew up in White Lake, which is 30 miles west of Mitchell on I-90. Played streetball against Mike Miller, and played against Chad Greenway when he was a freshman and I was a senior. Gary Munsen is retiring from coaching this year, and it’s 70 damn degrees in Mitchell on Jan 5. Highest temp ever on record for the month of January, from what I’m told.
January 5th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
657.Forrest Hump Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 4:03 pm
643
Used to just be Al’s I-90 I think??? I’m not super sure, the only times I went there were after being drunk at the Jackpot, which is a half block SE of the Corn Palace on Main St. The Jackpot had its last day in business on NYE. I was there to shut er down. I can assure you that I am from there. I grew up in White Lake, which is 30 miles west of Mitchell on I-90. Played streetball against Mike Miller, and played against Chad Greenway when he was a freshman and I was a senior. Gary Munsen is retiring from coaching this year, and it’s 70 damn degrees in Mitchell on Jan 5. Highest temp ever on record for the month of January, from what I’m told.
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Happy Chef! Come on man!
My family is from the Ethan-Mitchell area. I attended Litchfield Elementary K-2nd back in the 80s.
Still have a couple of uncles that live in the area.
January 5th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
DeuceDeuce Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 4:02 pm
Put the entire list of available FS’s in a hat and draw one out… and tah-dah!!! You have found your replacement for “Gio”..
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Why are any of them a better fit for the Raiders than Giordano?
By and large they have the same flaws. That’s why they’re backups. Find a player who is a clear upgrade. Find a backup, a guy whose salary would be comparable to Giordano’s, who saw the field just as much last season and made the same kinds of plays. You want a backup FS who can cover and tackle better than Giordano, right? Then take that expertise of yours and find one. Just one. That’s all I ask.
Personally, I’d rather spend the time finding Michael Huff’s replacement.
January 5th, 2012 at 4:07 pm
Routt
Huff
Johnson
Branch
Mitchell
Sheppard
VanDyke
Giordano
Chekwa (who I think will be a pro-bowler still)
Woodson
Boyd
whoever else we had playing in the secondary this season
this is my order of list of relevance, importance, production, I’m sure salary rankings are similar as well,
we are debating about the 8th position on the depth chart, now that’s funny.
January 5th, 2012 at 4:07 pm
God willing we will hire a competent GM, who will hire a competent DC. Who will run a good defensive scheme, which will require decent safeties. And that will eliminate Giordano from being here.
January 5th, 2012 at 4:07 pm
Obey AL’s wishes? Hue cut Hagan. He was an Al guy. Hue will get rid of Pryor as well.
January 5th, 2012 at 4:07 pm
I used to go to the Corn Palace all time with my best gal. We would get milk shakes after wards and hold hands.
January 5th, 2012 at 4:08 pm
Dakota Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
657.Forrest Hump Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 4:03 pm
643
Used to just be Al’s I-90 I think??? I’m not super sure, the only times I went there were after being drunk at the Jackpot, which is a half block SE of the Corn Palace on Main St. The Jackpot had its last day in business on NYE. I was there to shut er down. I can assure you that I am from there. I grew up in White Lake, which is 30 miles west of Mitchell on I-90. Played streetball against Mike Miller, and played against Chad Greenway when he was a freshman and I was a senior. Gary Munsen is retiring from coaching this year, and it’s 70 damn degrees in Mitchell on Jan 5. Highest temp ever on record for the month of January, from what I’m told.
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Happy Chef! Come on man!
My family is from the Ethan-Mitchell area. I attended Litchfield Elementary K-2nd back in the 80s.
Still have a couple of uncles that live in the area.
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I just moved to Ethan the 1st of January. Love that town. Small enough to be peaceful, close enough to be convenient.
January 5th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
“Personally, I’d rather spend the time finding Michael Huff’s replacement;”
as a starting FS or starting CB?
January 5th, 2012 at 4:10 pm
Dakota Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
657.Forrest Hump Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 4:03 pm
643
Used to just be Al’s I-90 I think??? I’m not super sure, the only times I went there were after being drunk at the Jackpot, which is a half block SE of the Corn Palace on Main St. The Jackpot had its last day in business on NYE. I was there to shut er down. I can assure you that I am from there. I grew up in White Lake, which is 30 miles west of Mitchell on I-90. Played streetball against Mike Miller, and played against Chad Greenway when he was a freshman and I was a senior. Gary Munsen is retiring from coaching this year, and it’s 70 damn degrees in Mitchell on Jan 5. Highest temp ever on record for the month of January, from what I’m told.
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Happy Chef! Come on man!
My family is from the Ethan-Mitchell area. I attended Litchfield Elementary K-2nd back in the 80s.
Still have a couple of uncles that live in the area.
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Dakota,
I thought you would of asked who the fourth grade teacher was in the elementary school, as a clincher.
January 5th, 2012 at 4:11 pm
We dont even have a defensive coordinator.. How is Giordano a “fit” here??..
I’d honestly rather see Zac Etheridge.
Stevie Brown “made plays” bring him back.
January 5th, 2012 at 4:11 pm
666
That wouldve worked too, I never went there lol.
January 5th, 2012 at 4:11 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
“Personally, I’d rather spend the time finding Michael Huff’s replacement;”
as a starting FS or starting CB?
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Preferably both… but FS should be the priority at this point.
Personally, I don’t think the Huff-to-CB experiment will last long.
January 5th, 2012 at 4:11 pm
664.Forrest Hump Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 4:08 pm
I just moved to Ethan the 1st of January. Love that town. Small enough to be peaceful, close enough to be convenient.
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I like Ethan.
Just don’t drink the water….full of pesticides I am told lol.
January 5th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
Raiders sign Mr. McKensie as our general manager, sign free agent Mr. Flynn as our quarterback & Mr. Jackson hire a new defensive coordinator; I would not care who our back up dime safety is, nor should anyone else.
January 5th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
Zac Etheridge.
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Strong Safety.
January 5th, 2012 at 4:13 pm
Zac Efron plays Safety?
January 5th, 2012 at 4:13 pm
Must keep players are
Janikowski
Lechler
Condo
McFadden
Reece
end of list
January 5th, 2012 at 4:13 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
Zac Etheridge.
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Strong Safety.
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EXACTLY.
January 5th, 2012 at 4:13 pm
Dakota Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 4:11 pm
664.Forrest Hump Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 4:08 pm
I just moved to Ethan the 1st of January. Love that town. Small enough to be peaceful, close enough to be convenient.
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I like Ethan.
Just don’t drink the water….full of pesticides I am told lol
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haha, what doesnt kill us makes us stronger right, after all, we are Raider Fans!!
January 5th, 2012 at 4:13 pm
I don’t either, Huff got burned a lot when he played cb, other teams like him, Raiders should trade him while he has value.
January 5th, 2012 at 4:13 pm
HayesDaze37 Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 4:13 pm
Zac Efron plays Safety?
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Keep your zipper up, its Etheridge.
January 5th, 2012 at 4:14 pm
The new defensive coordinator will be more concerned with finding a starter at FS than finding a backup FS better than Giordano.
January 5th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 4:13 pm
I don’t either, Huff got burned a lot when he played cb, other teams like him, Raiders should trade him while he has value.
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From what I heard he had no other suitors in free agency because other teams viewed him as “soft”.
January 5th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 4:14 pm
The new defensive coordinator will be more concerned with finding a starter at FS than finding a backup FS better than Giordano.
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Where in my statement did you read priority? Ill keep giving you rope if you keep hanging yourself.
January 5th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
Raiders should have kept at least one of these three, Mr. Stevie Brown, Mr. W. Mcfadden, & Mr. S. Moore or Mr. Boyd.
January 5th, 2012 at 4:16 pm
DD — Don’t confuse me with MR, thank you.
January 5th, 2012 at 4:16 pm
676.Forrest Hump Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 4:13 pm
Dakota Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 4:11 pm
664.Forrest Hump Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 4:08 pm
I just moved to Ethan the 1st of January. Love that town. Small enough to be peaceful, close enough to be convenient.
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I like Ethan.
Just don’t drink the water….full of pesticides I am told lol
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haha, what doesnt kill us makes us stronger right, after all, we are Raider Fans!!
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No, that schyt WILL kill you!
January 5th, 2012 at 4:17 pm
Sterling Moore should have been kept. You can make a case that Giordano took his spot. Lol.
January 5th, 2012 at 4:18 pm
HayesDaze37 Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 4:16 pm
DD — Don’t confuse me with MR, thank you.
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LOL! Aye Aye sir.
January 5th, 2012 at 4:19 pm
Don’t worry about it, Forrest — Kids born with two heads are bound to be smarter.
January 5th, 2012 at 4:19 pm
Forrest,
But you will never have to use bug spray again, your pores will emit enough pesticides to kill all the bugs in about a one square acre area….
January 5th, 2012 at 4:19 pm
Where in my statement did you read priority? Ill keep giving you rope if you keep hanging yourself.
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You’re the one who can’t name a single backup FS who produced the way Giordano did when he was forced into the lineup, chief. You’re the one who wants to blame the Raiders’ terrible defense on a part-time player who was never supposed to be on the field, when there is a laundry list of under-performing starters making far more than the vet minimum.
January 5th, 2012 at 4:19 pm
Joe Porter and Ron Parker are the reason Sterling Moore is no longer with the Raiders. There were plenty of chances to get him back. That’s on Hue.
January 5th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
Raiders sign Mr. McKensie as our general manager, sign free agent Mr. Flynn as our quarterback & Mr. Jackson hire a new defensive coordinator; I would not care who our back up dime safety is, nor should anyone else.
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Enough with the Mr. sh*t! It is really annoying.
January 5th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
I vote we change the Mitchell Corn palace to the Mitchell Maze palace!
January 5th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
Dakota Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 4:19 pm
Forrest,
But you will never have to use bug spray again, your pores will emit enough pesticides to kill all the bugs in about a one square acre area….
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See now youre actually SELLING me on the water. You know the bugs in the summer around here are freaking wicked!!!
January 5th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
YA — You didn’t really just refer to a Raiders fan as chief, did you? Soap in your mouf, dirty boy!
January 5th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
692
Maize?
January 5th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
691.Albert Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
Raiders sign Mr. McKensie as our general manager, sign free agent Mr. Flynn as our quarterback & Mr. Jackson hire a new defensive coordinator; I would not care who our back up dime safety is, nor should anyone else.
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Enough with the Mr. sh*t! It is really annoying.
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Sir, yes sir Mr. MaddenRaider sir!
January 5th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
for Mr. Boyd
January 5th, 2012 at 4:23 pm
HayesDaze37 Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
YA — You didn’t really just refer to a Raiders fan as chief, did you? Soap in your mouf, dirty boy!
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Haha my bad. Uncalled for…
January 5th, 2012 at 4:23 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 4:19 pm
Where in my statement did you read priority? Ill keep giving you rope if you keep hanging yourself.
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You’re the one who can’t name a single backup FS who produced the way Giordano did when he was forced into the lineup, chief. You’re the one who wants to blame the Raiders’ terrible defense on a part-time player who was never supposed to be on the field, when there is a laundry list of under-performing starters making far more than the vet minimum.
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Reading is fundamental.
Not one of those statements you just made about me are true. Ive never said 1 of those things.
And for the 4th time, I dont care to look up available FS’s. A guy who was signed the week before the season started isnt savvy vet. Now that, IS a statment you made.
January 5th, 2012 at 4:24 pm
The savvy vet, who tries real hard but has no actual talent or ability…. Matt Giordano.. LOL!!
January 5th, 2012 at 4:25 pm
MM34 sucks. Dude is always out of place and takes horrible angles like Eddie Anderson…
January 5th, 2012 at 4:25 pm
I wonder if Zach Galifianakis can play Safety?
January 5th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
as many know I do it out of respect for the players, whether I’m bashin them or not, I even will give this respect to Mr. Jamarcus Russell & Mr. Todd Marinovich; I don’t care how much you’re annoyed
January 5th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
HayesDaze37 Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 4:25 pm
I wonder if Zach Galifianakis can play Safety?
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Just as good as Giordano I would imagine. Dont they have the same 40 times?..
January 5th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
Only Dictators like Hugo Chavez or Mussolini are known for speaking like this but here comes pres purp lips talking about going around congress….nothing could be more anti constitutional.
mope & change
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“We can’t wait for Congress to do its job. So where they won’t act, I will,” Ohbama told students at the University of Colorado-Denver. “We’re going to look every single day to figure out what we can do without Congress.”
January 5th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
I really really really really really hope Hiram Eugene can play again.
January 5th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
Can’t believe you guys are still arguing about Gio. He’s easy…keep him around, and watch other players beat him for a roster spot. And…it would be very good for all of us if someone with more talent/ability does just that.
Love Gio’s effort and intangibles, but I want a better group of players than those we had on the field at the end of the year.
January 5th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
The Miami Heat owner lost $1.3 billion last year in his business ventures….maybe he would like to trade Lebron to the Lakers to save some $?????
January 5th, 2012 at 4:33 pm
Hiram Eugene, who can’t tackle or cover?
Another guy with the exact same flaws as Giordano. But even when Hiram Eugene was starting in place of Michael Huff, he never got 5 picks. Nor was he the de-facto leader of that defense – a defense that didn’t even have Seymour at that point!
Giordano is young, and knows where to be. Two things that give him the edge on most backup free safeties in the league. Is he a consistent player? No. That’s why he’s a backup. That’s why all backups are backups.
I’m more concerned about guys who are PAID to be playmakers, and yet can’t even make as many plays as a backup safety.
January 5th, 2012 at 4:33 pm
“Just as good as Giordano I would imagine. Dont they have the same 40 times?”
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I think Zach Galifianakis takes it by a whisker.
January 5th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
And…it would be very good for all of us if someone with more talent/ability does just that.
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Absolutely. He’s worth bringing back for the veteran minimum if only because the Raiders have nothing else at the position. If he gets outplayed in camp by some late-round pick or UDFA, then that’s a good problem for the Raiders to have.
Right now? There’s no one the Raiders could sign off the street who offers what Giordano does. He’s an easy re-signing. No reason to cast him off for good at this point.
January 5th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
You’ve got to be kidding me.
January 5th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
HayesDaze37 Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 4:33 pm
“Just as good as Giordano I would imagine. Dont they have the same 40 times?”
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I think Zach Galifianakis takes it by a whisker.
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Probably right. But that Giordano sure does try hard, and he yells to pump his teammates up too..
January 5th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
Wouldn’t be surprised if Gio has a few feelers this off-season…those 5 picks jump right off the page. But tapes don’t lie, and his propensity for being out of position is glaring. Some of that I blame on the coaching, too.
However, it wouldn’t be the first, nor the last, time we lost an average player to a team who has a serious need (you know, kinda like us). And many of those guys end up starting, for a little while at least.
January 5th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
i swear .. to god.. steve f`in corkan,, if u ever , in your life , post sum b.s. like that again,, im going to drive to california from memphis tenn and systematically tear apart your d.n.a.. this isnt a threat its a total factual promise !!!!!!!!!!!!!
mcfadden woulda practiced today ? i hate u now corkan .
other than that horrific post , so tell me guys . how many bad draft picks will it take until u all are screaming for mckenzie to be fired ????
January 5th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
So, how about an update on the asst. coaches please.
Hue said “sooner rather than later”.
Don’t they only have 2 weeks after a team’s season is done to let asst’s. know if they are coming back or not?
Also, will this site please take away the box score from the SD game?
I think we all know what happened.
January 5th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
Nobody got the whisker joke? It wasn’t that bad…
January 5th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
Guys that should have their belongings left outside the facility :
Lito Sheppard
Matt “Gio” Giordano
Ricky Brown
Jerome Boyd
Trevor Scott
Kyle Boller
Darryl Blackstock
Khalif Barnes
Mike Mitchell
January 5th, 2012 at 4:44 pm
HayesDaze37 Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
Wouldn’t be surprised if Gio has a few feelers this off-season…those 5 picks jump right off the page. But tapes don’t lie, and his propensity for being out of position is glaring. Some of that I blame on the coaching, too.
However, it wouldn’t be the first, nor the last, time we lost an average player to a team who has a serious need (you know, kinda like us). And many of those guys end up starting, for a little while at least.
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The only way you can blame the coaching on that is blame them for having him on the field at all lol..
January 5th, 2012 at 4:45 pm
obvious truth. the players on the defense dont respect chucky b. thats why so many penalties by seymour and other morons. thats why guys like giordona so outta positiona all the time. they need a coach they would slightly fear & totally respect .
January 5th, 2012 at 4:45 pm
whoa whoa.. gio & mike mitchell can stay. goi good backup safety ? & mike mitchell future linebacker / good special teamer .
January 5th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
Oh THATS why…smh.
January 5th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
doriangray Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 4:45 pm
whoa whoa.. gio & mike mitchell can stay. goi good backup safety ? & mike mitchell future linebacker / good special teamer .
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Calling those guys Safeties is a slap in the face to the position itself.
I might welcome MM back as a ST player, thats it.
January 5th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
DeuceDeuce Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
Guys that should have their belongings left outside the facility :
Lito Sheppard
Matt “Gio” Giordano
Ricky Brown
Jerome Boyd
Trevor Scott
Kyle Boller
Darryl Blackstock
Khalif Barnes
Mike Mitchell
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So… backups.
How about Seymour and McClain, who only show up when they feel like it. Or Curry, Huff, and Wimbley, whose perfomances are wildly inconsistent? Or Kelly and Routt, whose complete lack of discipline costs the Raiders time and time again.
With the exception of Curry, any one of these players is making more than all of the above combined.
January 5th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
Seymour showed up when he was healthy.
That list is of players who shouldnt be rostered by us or anyone in the NFL for the most part.
The guys you mentioned have shown talent and ability. They can be used in a better scheme or by better coaching.
January 5th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
No pressing reason to let coaches know if they’re going to be retained or not…
Priority #1 = Figuring out who will be the GM, and get him in here so HE can make a determination on whom he’d like to keep on staff.
We (mostly) agree that Bresnahan’s got to go…and his D’s epic collapses will be accounted for at that time. But, I’m not so sure some guys on that staff won’t be back…the new DC should be able to make his feelings known in that regard before they’re all let go.
Also…I don’t understand the hyperbole about the Raiders not announcing the “firings” of all these people. Letting contracts expire isn’t technically firing people, and until evaluations are made by the 2012 Raiders front-office, making the “moves” would be premature.
January 5th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
Sir, Priority #1 has been established. Re-Sign Giordano.
January 5th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
and with that…. its Clock out time!
I will see you guys tomorrow hopefully.
January 5th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
You can tell Deuce is a friend, family member of, or worse an actual player who got cut because of how strong his hate for Giordano is. With all the lack of production on defense, Deuce is particularly getting at Giordano with a lot of passion. Seems personal.
January 5th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
Later, 22
January 5th, 2012 at 4:59 pm
deuce does seem to hate the slow white safety dude that kept making plays for the raiders in crucial situations.
January 5th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
one thing i know the raiders really want and almost every team is lacking is a strong outside rusher . julius peppers ? jared allen ? tamba hali ? dude on the eagles ? these guys dont come by often it seems, not since derrick burgess have we seen such production,
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January 5th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
one thing i know the raiders really want and almost every team is lacking is a strong outside rusher . julius peppers ? jared allen ? tamba hali ? dude on the eagles ? these guys dont come by often it seems, not since derrick burgess have we seen such production,
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Chris Clemens? Did pretty good for Seattle. Had over 22 sacks in two years. Had 8 sacks in Oak.
January 5th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
the ” corn palace ” sounds like a neo-homo disco club that has a strong odor of rubber .
January 5th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
Giordano needs to stay on this football team as a backup safety and be used in nickel or dime packages.
The guy has heart and toughness and at least when the ball is thrown his way he catches the damn thing and makes a pick when needed.
January 5th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
Plus Gio can play special teams if need be.
January 5th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
its like , sum1 asked ” hey , whats the most subtley homo- erotic name we can call this place ” ? & sum chubby wierd guy with green glasses said ” uhh , the corn palace ?”
January 5th, 2012 at 5:20 pm
# YoungAmerican Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
Keep an eye on FSU LB Nigel Bradham and Texas LB Keenan Robinson as possible 3rd/4th round picks.
^^^^^^^
Bradham would be a good pick in Round 3. I like Shea McClellin from Boise St and Vinny Curry from Marshall. I also like Kentrell Lockett from Ole Miss and Frank Alexander from Oklahoma.
Chris Gallipo also from USC in Round 5 as an Inside LB.
Raiders need to pick up at least two vet LB’s though who have experience and will push these young guys like McClain, Curry and Goethel to be better pros.
January 5th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
I looked at the teams Gio played with before, Indy, NO and the Packers, and thought, hey he must have played in some playoff games. Maybe help the “veteran presense” argument.
Nope. He played in one postseason game.
The final score was 51-45, lol.
January 5th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
Giordono is the Bruce Gradkoski of the secondary!
January 5th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
Michael Silver of Yahoo! Sports reports that Bresnahan and the three others are indeed on the way out.
So why did the Raiders deny the report? Semantics.
Oakland informed the four coaches they would not be brought back next season, but they are requiring them to work the remaining two weeks of their contract. Silver calls team spokesman John Herrera a “lying liar” and a “tool.”
“This is why a lot of established coaches don’t want to work for Raiders. They play games, instead of just manning up and firing people,” Silver writes. “They say, ‘Oh, you have a year on your contract? You’ve been reassigned to scouting.’ Daring them to leave or void contract.”
January 5th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
Thanks Alex for reporting on this story that was on this blog and commented on various times throughout the day. We thank you for this.
January 5th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
726.HayesDaze37 Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
No pressing reason to let coaches know if they’re going to be retained or not…
Priority #1 = Figuring out who will be the GM, and get him in here so HE can make a determination on whom he’d like to keep on staff.
We (mostly) agree that Bresnahan’s got to go…and his D’s epic collapses will be accounted for at that time. But, I’m not so sure some guys on that staff won’t be back…the new DC should be able to make his feelings known in that regard before they’re all let go.
Also…I don’t understand the hyperbole about the Raiders not announcing the “firings” of all these people. Letting contracts expire isn’t technically firing people, and until evaluations are made by the 2012 Raiders front-office, making the “moves” would be premature.
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Yes, but my understanding is that IF the Raiders planned on keeping Bresnahan, or any other assistants with expiring year to year contracts, they MUST inform that person within a two week time span.
January 5th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
welcome
You know not every reader goes back and re-reads 700 posts.
I do it for them!!!!!! Yeah!
January 5th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
besides,
can you really re-post too often any story that calls Hererra a tool?
January 5th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
u all see now ? it was the evil darth herrerra all along ! it wasnt Al . u all must know the truth behind the empire . herera has been puling al`s strings for years. i cant wait until amy trasks book comes out exposing the truth .
January 5th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
Alex,
most of the raider nation is well informed and those who comment in this blog have the highest IQ when researching info on the Raiders in the blogisphere.
Except one, Madden Raider, aka Sullivan44, you must know of him, right Alex. The mentally discharged dude with 20 different handles.
January 5th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
i just saw this movie called , A GOOD OL FASHIONED ORGY , and theres this ridiculously hot russian lookin chick in it that i cant stop thinkin bout . the one with the green eyes . oh lord shes too much
January 5th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
I wish some of the posters here would cite a source, link or SOMETHING when they mention things in regard to this transition period and the things happening behind the scenes.
One poster said he “heard” that Herrera went into a tirade about him being next in line fore the GM position and it’s “his turn”.
Any substantiated truth to this? If so, please cite a source or give us a link.
If that is true I find it very interesting.
January 5th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
How the hell are you Dell?
Buying high and selling low still?
January 5th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
Just Fire Baby
At the rate were going, always low.
January 5th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
“most of the Raider nation” thought David Garrard would be our QB after JC went down.
Until we informed them he had a broken back and all.
January 5th, 2012 at 5:47 pm
Market hasn’t been so bad.
Sell in May and go away, but always remember to buy in November.
January 5th, 2012 at 5:49 pm
Landry Jones also staying in school one more year.
The pull of chasing a national title vs a couple extra million dollars must be something else.
January 5th, 2012 at 5:51 pm
A lot of the teams at the top of the draft aren’t taking QB’s.
Rams at 2, Vikings at 3, Bucs at 5, Jags at 7, Panthers at 8.
If your the #3 QB in this draft, you might slip further than you normally would as the #3 QB.
January 5th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
JFB,
Send me a email on my yahoo account and explain to me what your doing. I’m curious as you seem to juggle time in this blog as well as work in the financial field.
No disrespect, you can do this, but tell me how.
I’m off this week, daughter heads back to college, Friday. I usually find it extremely difficult to be on this blog much, maybe you have something better than I do, so let me know.
January 5th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
RaiderDell,
restaff the entire org?
tell HueJack to put a sock in it and RoMac to concentrate on NFL RBs rather than HS grudges?
give walking boots to all former SEC stars when they enter training camp?
you da man. tell us.
January 5th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
Is there any chance LaMichael James falls to pick #97 to us?
If the Bronco’s are serious about this Tebow read-option thing, you would think there is no way they would pass on James, maybe the best read-option collegiate RB ever.
If Bush’s leaves, and Darren’s health always an issue, we will need to draft a RB again this year.
January 5th, 2012 at 5:55 pm
If Al had made the Carson deal he’d given up a one & four in 2013. If not he’d get Manning for too much anyway.
January 5th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
Vegas,
James is scrawny. Sproles has succeeded with a stout frame. LaDuck is doomed in the NFL.
January 5th, 2012 at 5:58 pm
Dell,
So NFL coaches think Huff can play CB. I thought so too.
You thoughts on the subject?
LOL
I’m having too much fun with this one. I thought you have beaten me and my arguments (according to you)?! ! LMAO
January 5th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
1) Huff moving from FS to CB? nanana, moving from FS to ST as in special teamer…next
2) DMAC would have practiced today: and I would have beat Manny Pacquiao…who cares…next
3) Ron Wolf talks Raiders GM: I respect Wolf a ton, so hearing him say that Mark is seriously asking around about talent at the GM spot from successfull people like Wolf gives me hope.
FIRE CHUKY B!
January 5th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
ATTENTION RAIDER HEADQUARTERS
Get on with it! Do something! Hire somebody! Fire somebody, check that, Fire a lot of defensive bodies!
The Nation is sitting here in Limbo with their thumbs up their As$es waiting for some results. If you can’t get into the playoffs, at least show us some management skills – Herrera doesn’t count.
January 5th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
DeuceDeuce Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
Seymour showed up when he was healthy.
That list is of players who shouldnt be rostered by us or anyone in the NFL for the most part.
The guys you mentioned have shown talent and ability. They can be used in a better scheme or by better coaching.
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Two inside pass-rushers, 3-tech DTs in the base defense fits no scheme. Especially when one of them is as undisciplined as TK.
The Raiders have 3 4-3 SLBs starting for them. If they move to a 3-4 they have two guys who might fit at ILB, but no true 0-tech NT.
Routt has never had any discipline, and Huff is just not a very good player. Curry’s weaknesses are easily exposed, and the Raiders don’t have a big-time impact player anywhere on defense. They particularly need help rushing the passer.
There is a lack of talent on this roster that a new scheme alone cannot fix.
January 5th, 2012 at 6:01 pm
Dell,
Pride and Joy
January 5th, 2012 at 6:01 pm
You can’t win with the Lion King, I can do anything, and win at everything!!
I’m no limit solja!!!
Nah nah
Nah nah
Say Aah
Ah
Ah
January 5th, 2012 at 6:02 pm
doriangray Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
one thing i know the raiders really want and almost every team is lacking is a strong outside rusher . julius peppers ? jared allen ? tamba hali ? dude on the eagles ? these guys dont come by often it seems, not since derrick burgess have we seen such production,
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Cliff Avril and Red Bryant need to be targets in FA. Red Bryant to plug in at DT and help stop the run, Cliff Avril to add a much-needed pass rushing threat.
Of course, if the defense moves to 3-4, the needs are different. But the Raiders still don’t have an impact pass rusher.
January 5th, 2012 at 6:02 pm
AMA no limit solja!!!!
Nah nah
Nah nah
January 5th, 2012 at 6:02 pm
JFB
why do you think we’ll get the highest compensatory pick?
January 5th, 2012 at 6:02 pm
Hey Mark, while you are looking for a GM, check out those big run-stuffuing Nose Tackles! get me one of those!
January 5th, 2012 at 6:03 pm
This confusion tells me that it wasn’t all Al’s doing when he was alive. This is very similar to when he was running the team. Media reports, some stooge like Herrera denies, same ole same ole. Just weird. 95.7’s Townsend vehemently defending his story on twitter, still says Bresh and most of D staff are out. His recent update was a couple of hours ago.
January 5th, 2012 at 6:05 pm
If I was Mark Davis I defintely definitely would base nothing would base nothing on anything commiserated on this blog.
all the semi-pros and emotional droppings here are of no consequence to substantiating a winning FB team.
Vegas,
you did know that Davis went to Chico? perhaps you may have an herbal/organic connection with the man in charge.
January 5th, 2012 at 6:05 pm
If true, and all the D staff is out, I will be happy. Will miss Woodson though.
January 5th, 2012 at 6:06 pm
alex7 Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
Michael Silver of Yahoo! Sports reports that Bresnahan and the three others are indeed on the way out.
So why did the Raiders deny the report? Semantics.
Oakland informed the four coaches they would not be brought back next season, but they are requiring them to work the remaining two weeks of their contract. Silver calls team spokesman John Herrera a “lying liar” and a “tool.”
“This is why a lot of established coaches don’t want to work for Raiders. They play games, instead of just manning up and firing people,” Silver writes. “They say, ‘Oh, you have a year on your contract? You’ve been reassigned to scouting.’ Daring them to leave or void contract.”
………..
Just amazing.
January 5th, 2012 at 6:06 pm
M,
You think so?
I think he could be a good value with a 3rd round pick, and get some good production for 4-5 years.
That’s all you need from RB’s these days. Take a mid-rounder, pay him 500K, milk the best 3-4 years out of him, and than turn him into glue.
Rinse, wash, repeat.
January 5th, 2012 at 6:06 pm
Dakota,
I was wondering. What do people do at the Corn Palace?
January 5th, 2012 at 6:07 pm
If I were Mark Davvis I would lend an ear to this blog, specially to Macho Man Randy Savage, the dude is an oracle! ooooooooooooooo yeah!
January 5th, 2012 at 6:07 pm
Cyrus Gray could be mid/late-round option at RB. I also like Terrance Gannaway and Dan Herron.
January 5th, 2012 at 6:08 pm
JFB
why do you think we’ll get the highest compensatory pick?
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Was their a bigger named FA that a team lost than Nnamdi?
Maybe there was, can’t think of one.
If we don’t the top pick, we will get no worse than the 3rd.
January 5th, 2012 at 6:08 pm
Why let Woodson go?!
Keep Woodson and Waufle, and Fire Chucky!!
January 5th, 2012 at 6:08 pm
It makes me think, too. IT seems other than the Houston game, Al’s death almost had no effect on the players. It was like business as usual. You have to wonder if Al might have been out of the loop for some time. Because everything happening right now is exactly what things were like when he was there. Mark Davis is the owner and managing general partner. Where is he in all of this? He has complete control and can fire anyone in the organization. Yet for some reason John Herrera is acting as if he’s in charge and making every last decision. What could Herrera do if Mark just canned him today? Would he have any legal recourse?
January 5th, 2012 at 6:09 pm
Vegas,
What about J Babin?
January 5th, 2012 at 6:09 pm
im just hoping that we r close to signing a gm, which is why nobody has been fired yet…mark will leave it up the new gm to clean house….after all it is mark who has the say in who stays and who goes…..right?
January 5th, 2012 at 6:10 pm
Just got off work and saw the good news that Bres is probably on his way out. Sorry to hear about Biekert and Woodson, wish you guys the best but this is business.
Now, why the fk is Sanjay (run in a straight line downfield) Lal still on my team?
Fire Brad “hammy” roll also while your at it.
January 5th, 2012 at 6:10 pm
That Michael Silver of Yahoo is a tool’s tool…working for Yahoo? thats son 90s, welcome to 2012 mike!
January 5th, 2012 at 6:11 pm
Babin would be close.
I will be curious to see which way the league lines them up.
January 5th, 2012 at 6:11 pm
Night fellas…Cincy is gonna win it all!
yeeeeeeeeeeeah!
January 5th, 2012 at 6:13 pm
Vegas,
next autumn, Pitt, Balt, Cincy, Mia = broken little guys
JaJames should avoid the NFL, but then again he should avoid another year of the Pac12 because the young man is doomed
January 5th, 2012 at 6:14 pm
Corn Palace? If I know Dakota, he runs backwards thru it.
January 5th, 2012 at 6:14 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 6:08 pm
It makes me think, too. IT seems other than the Houston game, Al’s death almost had no effect on the players. It was like business as usual. You have to wonder if Al might have been out of the loop for some time. Because everything happening right now is exactly what things were like when he was there.
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Whoah, if what you just wrote here is true, then your entire existence over the last 5 years would have little if any significance. That can’t feel good.
January 5th, 2012 at 6:14 pm
Why do Beikert and Woodson deserve to stay? They have no coaching credentials. Nobody here can point to anything they’ve done directly to help the defense. Both were good players as far as we know, and little else. Our defense this year was just like previous years. Couldn’t stop the run, looked lost in the secondary. Only played hard for one quarter. Out of shape. Out of sorts. Committing idiotic penalties. Honestly, keep Giordano and blow everything else up…players and coaches alike.
January 5th, 2012 at 6:15 pm
Mike Silver is a Cal Bear and a closet Raider fan.
He picked us to go to the AFC championship game this year, and was on ESPN radio this season talking up Hue Jackson.
But like all local media guys, he probably has had his run-ins with Herrera.
O’l Johnny brings out the worst in a scribe.
January 5th, 2012 at 6:15 pm
Raider o,
when did you get out of rehab or detention? thought you were dead.
January 5th, 2012 at 6:15 pm
I think Babin. He was selected to the PB, and he had a great season from game 1-16. Nnamdi struggled the first few games, and he doesn’t have the INTs to compete With Babin’s 18 sacks.
January 5th, 2012 at 6:16 pm
JFB
you were right. Comp picks are based mainly on salary, and no FA signing had a higher salary than Nnamdi.
Not even close. Teams that re-signed their own FAs don’t count.
January 5th, 2012 at 6:17 pm
Dell,
So NFL coaches think Huff can play CB. I thought so too.
You thoughts on the subject?
LOL
I’m having too much fun with this one. I thought you have beaten me and my arguments (according to you)?! ! LMAO
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Raider O,
Glad you’re having fun. So since the interim HC, Hughjack thinks Huff can play corner, you then pound your chest as the winner of our feeble debate.
Next, what coaches, with an “S” Name me one other than HuJack who thinks Huff is a corner and provide a link, please.
I along with you, had a respect for AL Davis. You have said so on this blog. Raider O you have liked most of his draft picks, free agent pickups and overall passion for your team raiders.
So my question to you, since you stated Huff played corner in college at Texas. Why didn’t Al Davis play Huff at corner, when drafted. We know Davis controlled the roster and football decisions for the defense, it’s been widely reported. How could Al missed this (diamond in the rough) Huff at corner. Are you saying Al misssed this one too, or are you saying Davis didn’t think he was a corner.
So instead of claiming victory, in our debate, explain to me, why Huff never played corner on a full time basis.
The rate Hujack is going, he’ll probably put Wiz at TE,so please think about this and get back to me.
Don’t worry I’ll still give you financial professional advice, as you are my kindered spirit, when I was your age, less the mother in law living with me.( or your mom)
I’m off to work out to lick my wounds, and eat crow as you have hurt my spirit with our Huff debate.
Best regards,
Dell
P.S. Fire that Monkey (insert any name in here)
January 5th, 2012 at 6:17 pm
TW,
I will have too much fun with this Corn Palace thing.
It’s a palace made of Corn.
ROFLMAO
January 5th, 2012 at 6:17 pm
O,
I don’t think they base it on this season, but what the player did for the team that he left.
Like who was left with the biggest void type deal.
I think it is stupid, this whole compensatory pick thing, and reeks of a socialist way to make things fair.
January 5th, 2012 at 6:17 pm
Alex7 Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 5:49 pm
Landry Jones also staying in school one more year.
The pull of chasing a national title vs a couple extra million dollars must be something else.
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I think Monte Ball is staying , too. He just wants another ass whooping by Oregon in the Rose Bowl again next year…Wisconsin just can’t get enough of it.
January 5th, 2012 at 6:18 pm
Cliff Avril and Red Bryant need to be targets in FA. Red Bryant to plug in at DT and help stop the run, Cliff Avril to add a much-needed pass rushing threat.
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Red Bryant has been a big disappointment for Seattle. In fact they don’t even have him targeted inside, they have him on the outside. Don’t think he can be the NT a 3-4 would need.
January 5th, 2012 at 6:18 pm
Good Evening Raider O, Nation.
January 5th, 2012 at 6:19 pm
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Football_League_Draft#Compensatory_picks
salary is #1
playing time #2
post-season honors #3
I think Nnamdi trumps Babin due to huge margin in #1.
January 5th, 2012 at 6:19 pm
M,
Rehab or detention?! Even dead?!?!?!
I’m glad you think so highly of me. lol
I was in detention for being a bad blogger!
January 5th, 2012 at 6:19 pm
Yeah, Dakota likes the chairs.
January 5th, 2012 at 6:20 pm
JFB.
you were right. Comp picks are based mainly on salary, and no FA signing had a higher salary than Nnamdi.
Not even close. Teams that re-signed their own FAs don’t count.
Performance doesn’t count unless you win a post-season award.
January 5th, 2012 at 6:21 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 6:15 pm
Mike Silver is a Cal Bear and a closet Raider fan.
He picked us to go to the AFC championship game this year, and was on ESPN radio this season talking up Hue Jackson.
But like all local media guys, he probably has had his run-ins with Herrera.
O’l Johnny brings out the worst in a scribe.
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No kidding. Kawakami near dared him to punch him..as Nancy Gay scooted out of the press room in the Lane Kiffin years. Letting him go would be addition by subtraction…I don’t care how long he or his father knew Al Davis. You make enemies with the press, you’re an idiot. Gruden was smart enough to know that.
January 5th, 2012 at 6:22 pm
Red Bryant had a really good year this season, but it was at the 3-4 DE. He also blocks a bunch of kicks.
But I pulled these quotes from the Seattle Post:
“Not far behind on Seattle’s priority list is locking up Bryant. Before Carroll took over in 2009, Bryant appeared to be on his way out of the NFL, unable to find his way as a defensive tackle. But Carroll and defensive coordinator Gus Bradley shifted Bryant to defensive end and he’s become the anchor of a Seattle defensive line that’s been successful each of the past two seasons at stopping the run with Bryant starting.
Bryant said earlier this week that he doesn’t have the desire to see what he could get in free agency. His loyalty to the Seahawks goes beyond finding a role where he could thrive; he’s the son-in-law of former Seahawks defensive end great Jacob Green”.
January 5th, 2012 at 6:22 pm
Raider O Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 6:17 pm
TW,
I will have too much fun with this Corn Palace thing.
It’s a palace made of Corn.
ROFLMAO
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I think this is where CornHolers go or come from – not sure which.
January 5th, 2012 at 6:23 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 6:18 pm
Cliff Avril and Red Bryant need to be targets in FA. Red Bryant to plug in at DT and help stop the run, Cliff Avril to add a much-needed pass rushing threat.
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Red Bryant has been a big disappointment for Seattle. In fact they don’t even have him targeted inside, they have him on the outside. Don’t think he can be the NT a 3-4 would need.
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No game changing NT in FA. Better off with Alameda T’Amu of Washington (6-2,335) but no picks. Only other one I can think of is Abrauyo Franklin of New Orleans. Good NT’s are hard to find. Paul Solai of Miami is another.
another guy that could come cheap is Ahmad Brooks of the Niners and possibly Jarret Johnson of the Ravens. (assuming its a 3-4 switch)
January 5th, 2012 at 6:23 pm
Some of the more level headed homers are being unusually defensive today. Anyone else noticing?
January 5th, 2012 at 6:24 pm
Arab Spring coming to Alameda? Are some posters here employees of the team who know their days are numbered?
January 5th, 2012 at 6:24 pm
yeah Sam, Ball’s decision is just ridiculous.
If you receive a 3rd round grade after leading the nation in rushing, TDs, and made it to the Rose Bowl…
how the heck will your draft status go up after one more season?
January 5th, 2012 at 6:25 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 6:22 pm
Red Bryant had a really good year this season, but it was at the 3-4 DE. He also blocks a bunch of kicks.
But I pulled these quotes from the Seattle Post:
“Not far behind on Seattle’s priority list is locking up Bryant. Before Carroll took over in 2009, Bryant appeared to be on his way out of the NFL, unable to find his way as a defensive tackle. But Carroll and defensive coordinator Gus Bradley shifted Bryant to defensive end and he’s become the anchor of a Seattle defensive line that’s been successful each of the past two seasons at stopping the run with Bryant starting.
Bryant said earlier this week that he doesn’t have the desire to see what he could get in free agency. His loyalty to the Seahawks goes beyond finding a role where he could thrive; he’s the son-in-law of former Seahawks defensive end great Jacob Green”.
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RED Bryant and Jacob GREEN – Well then, LET YOUR COLORS SHINE, Red.
January 5th, 2012 at 6:25 pm
Kawakami exposed Herrera and the entire Raider culture. When Al tried to fire Kiffin and make Kiffin appear to be insubordinate and unethical, Herrera’s incident was fresh in the minds of American sports fans.
January 5th, 2012 at 6:25 pm
Most teams try to work with the press, a scratch-my back I’ll scratch yours deal.
You can use the press to uncover rumors and what not, have them help you with getting some good press on maybe a bad situation.
And than all you have to do is be quotable, and not make there job harder.
Than you have the Raiders, who think getting in near fist-fights with the local press is somehow a good strategy.
January 5th, 2012 at 6:26 pm
Dell,
You ask a great question. Why didn’t Al try Huff at CB? I think it has to do with us having enough talent at CB ( Nnamdi, Routt, and Washington/ CJ). IMHO
I like debating with you Finance Master, and just like most students, I have a lot of respect for my teacher, and that’s why I enjoy the idea of winning against my the master himself.
I know you understand. It’s the hunger to best the best, and I think you are the best.
January 5th, 2012 at 6:26 pm
Alex7 Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 6:24 pm
yeah Sam, Ball’s decision is just ridiculous.
If you receive a 3rd round grade after leading the nation in rushing, TDs, and made it to the Rose Bowl…
how the heck will your draft status go up after one more season?
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You’ll just get banged up or tear an ACL. But he has a monstrous line to rush behind. These guys don’t get that RB isn’t as highly coveted as in the Emmitt Smith days. I honestly thought we had a shot at this guy if we do a trade to move up.
January 5th, 2012 at 6:28 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 6:25 pm
Kawakami exposed Herrera and the entire Raider culture. When Al tried to fire Kiffin and make Kiffin appear to be insubordinate and unethical, Herrera’s incident was fresh in the minds of American sports fans.
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I was almost expecting Herrera to say; Cmon, “passive asian dude” you guys dont get in peoples faces like that right, Tim KAMAKAIZE?
January 5th, 2012 at 6:28 pm
Dirty Raccoon in the House!!!!!! Dirt bear as I remember!
What’s up big fella?
January 5th, 2012 at 6:29 pm
Raider O Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 6:26 pm
Dell,
You ask a great question. Why didn’t Al try Huff at CB? I think it has to do with us having enough talent at CB ( Nnamdi, Routt, and Washington/ CJ). IMHO
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Maybe because Al used to be a coach, and he realized Huff was a stiff in coverage.
January 5th, 2012 at 6:30 pm
Vegas,
I though it has to do with the team missing the performance of the player, and the players’ production that season with the new team, but I’m not sure.
January 5th, 2012 at 6:31 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 6:25 pm
Most teams try to work with the press, a scratch-my back I’ll scratch yours deal.
You can use the press to uncover rumors and what not, have them help you with getting some good press on maybe a bad situation.
And than all you have to do is be quotable, and not make there job harder.
Than you have the Raiders, who think getting in near fist-fights with the local press is somehow a good strategy.
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Jackson realized that, and was good with the press, often getting them to laugh and continually playing to them – unfortunately, the wins, clock management and playcalling would backfire. If he won more, there’s no doubt the guy would be a media darling.
January 5th, 2012 at 6:32 pm
Herrera looked pathetic. He was shaking. How do you confront someone and shake at the same time? lol. What a wannabe.
January 5th, 2012 at 6:34 pm
As an old cowgirl fan told me these are not you’re Dad’s Raiders. As I told him you’re right, my dad’s RAIDERS would have beat the crap out of these prima donnas by half time, sent in the scrubs for the 2nd half and laughed their ass of at the pathetic attempt of the “modern pro football player”! Anyway no matter what, “RAIDER FOREVER”, and please just let’s get back to “JUST WINNING BABY!”
January 5th, 2012 at 6:35 pm
Seattle plays a 4-3, Red Bryant played Left End, the spot Lamarr Houston plays here.
Bryant was really impressive this year after moving outside, but he could not stay healthy before and now in his contract season he was great…red flags but I’d say his health is the biggest issue because he does seem to play hard.
January 5th, 2012 at 6:36 pm
Raider O Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 6:28 pm
Dirty Raccoon in the House!!!!!! Dirt bear as I remember!
What’s up big fella?
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Trying to make sense of this season, looking forward to a new DC.
You were right, we definatly need youth at DT.
January 5th, 2012 at 6:37 pm
Red Bryant has been a big disappointment for Seattle. In fact they don’t even have him targeted inside, they have him on the outside. Don’t think he can be the NT a 3-4 would need.
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He’s not an NT, no, but if the Raiders stay 4-3 he can play a little 2-tech or 1-tech DT. Seattle has him outside because Mebane is their 1-tech, and Carroll’s defensive scheme calls for DT-sized players at LE (Raheem Brock, generally a DT, rotates in on passing downs).
Red Bryant is a solid run stuffer, which is exactly what the Raiders need.
January 5th, 2012 at 6:37 pm
Don’t forget the blocked kicks with Bryant.
It is something crazy like 10 kicks since he has been in the league.
January 5th, 2012 at 6:39 pm
From what I heard, though, Seattle is pretty set on keeping Bryant. He’s carved out a nice role for himself on their defense. Pretty integral to what they like to do.
January 5th, 2012 at 6:46 pm
Sam,
That could be true, but it doesn’t support my argument. lol
January 5th, 2012 at 6:48 pm
Dell (& Sam),
We also had more need for talent at Safety than CB.
January 5th, 2012 at 6:50 pm
Raccoon,
I can’t believe it. It really hurts. We gave the division to Tebow. I’m pissed!!!!
January 5th, 2012 at 6:52 pm
Bob Marley Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 6:35 pm
Seattle plays a 4-3, Red Bryant played Left End, the spot Lamarr Houston plays here.
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Exactly. I should have clarified that he has played well the last year or so since Carroll moved him outside. He did not play well at all inside. No leverage.
January 5th, 2012 at 7:02 pm
-Seymour takes too mant plays off, so he should share his snaps with TK.
-Matt should play LDE, and have Houston and Dez rotate to keep him fresh.
- Houston should also rotate at DT, and we should add a NT.
- we need a RDE that can play every down.
January 5th, 2012 at 7:10 pm
Defense:
0- Fire Chucky!!!!
1- We need a NT, move Houston inside with Sey & TK, Dez should rotate at LDE with Matt, and add a RDE.
2- we should add the best FA CB. we need to resign Branch, and keep Huff at FS (and NB)
3- we can use another LB to compete with Curry.
Offense:
1- resign Bush, or add a capable RB to play when DMC gets injured again.
2- we need OL help, Barnes was the weakest link on in that unit.
We only have a few draft picks, so we have to be active in FA.
January 5th, 2012 at 7:16 pm
You’re right Sulli, same ol stuff coming out of HQ. NFLN reputed Chuck was out 6 hours ago and still it’s tight lipped and denial from the Raiders. You would think things have changed but there are obviously some still practice the old ways.
Herrera is a shady mfer. Just one look at him is all you need. He’s like a bad comedy sketch. Like the type of guy who always shows up behind you wherever you go and without you hearing him. All of the sudden there he is, Bam!
January 5th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
Dam this guy couldnt be more wrong, best since willis
http://www.mockingthedraft.com/2010/1/14/1250588/rolando-mcclain-nfl-draft-scouting
January 5th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
McClain looked much slower this year than last year. I don’t think he’s a bust, I just think he needs to work harder on his speed and conditioning.
For some reason the D is better with him in there. I guess he’s saving us from being rock bootom in the league.
January 5th, 2012 at 8:13 pm
Whats with all this Huff moving to CB talk in here? Sounds like BS to me. Is this confirmed by anyone other than Corky. If Huff himself started this I bet he was just fking around with these beatwriter fools, Ya’ll know Huff be joking around alot.
January 5th, 2012 at 8:22 pm
839.504 Raider Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
McClain looked much slower this year than last year. I don’t think he’s a bust, I just think he needs to work harder on his speed and conditioning.
For some reason the D is better with him in there. I guess he’s saving us from being rock bootom in the league.
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McClain was in there on the 98 yd. debacle against
Detroit (where he whiffed on Stafford on a play that would have saved the game)and also the 991/2 yd SD drive, and front and center when Buffalo ran roughshod.
Blackstock couldn’t have done any worse in those clutch situations.
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January 5th, 2012 at 8:25 pm
If it’s true that Bres, is gone WHY would they keep it a secret?
What sense does that make?
It’s not gonna scare off any potential GM’s.
What will scare ‘em off is the way Raiders are handline this.
January 5th, 2012 at 8:28 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 6:24 pm
Arab Spring coming to Alameda? Are some posters here employees of the team who know their days are numbered?
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I’m convinced now that Brien is either Herrera or works for him.
January 5th, 2012 at 8:38 pm
an 8-8 broncos team with Tim Tebow in the playoffs with an offense getting 8 points a game….Totally unacceptable
Get me a winner at head coach that manages the entire team.
January 5th, 2012 at 8:42 pm
Raiders not requesting to interview DeCosta would mean one thing.
January 5th, 2012 at 8:48 pm
“If the head football coach wants to be in it, why not the head of marketing or… public relations. You could run down the whole gamut of who should be in there, but I would think that’s the owner’s bailiwick and the owner should take care of it.”
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Sounds like Wolf is saying Coach, just coach.
January 5th, 2012 at 8:56 pm
C’mon Raiders. The league doesn’t sleep. Get this D staff outta here and lets gets somebody good in here before it’s too late and we have to settle for somebody like Chuck B.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7430202/sources-minnesota-vikings-interview-raheem-morris-high-level-job-d
January 5th, 2012 at 9:15 pm
The Raiders are a geocentric organization.
January 5th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
Former NFL d lineman Stubblefield agrees with me that Richard Seymour was average at best this season. He has no business being in the Pro Bowl. That being said, I hope we can trade him to some team that’s willing to give us a high draft pick!
January 5th, 2012 at 9:31 pm
Time for a defensive centered head coach….guys like Tomlin, Schwartz, Fox, Lewis, Jon Harbaugh, Belicheck…guys that can craft a game plan against the Packers like Crennel…someone that will make this damn team tough.
Tired of chasing this Madden 12 dream of a pass happy finesse team
January 5th, 2012 at 9:32 pm
(where he whiffed on Stafford on a play that would have saved the game)
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That play was the worst for me, that has hit,fumble big fckn play written all over it an he throws a limp arm at a Qb 1st down…game over…
We want a beast not a big slow bully.
3rd season trunaround?
January 5th, 2012 at 9:35 pm
The Raiders pursued a Colts like strategy on defense….a bunch of b.s about getting ahead in the game and just focusing on rushing the passer……well, unless your offense puts up 45 a game or you have Peyton….”designed to stop the pass” “weak on the run” bunk doesn’t work.
January 5th, 2012 at 9:46 pm
“Woa Woa Woa….STOP THE CLOCK”
Raiders hire a GM!
January 5th, 2012 at 9:47 pm
Raiders have hired Reggie McKenzie…
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7430468/source-oakland-raiders-hire-reggie-mckenzie-green-bay-packers-gm
January 5th, 2012 at 9:48 pm
Gotta say big ups to all that post here. Sandusky44 has been flailing away like an old women for the last couple of hours and not one person has responded to the d-bag.
Cheers!!
January 5th, 2012 at 9:54 pm
GG,
Saw that too, from Adam Schefter! When do you think it will be posted here?
January 5th, 2012 at 9:56 pm
The only thing I don’t like is “A league source says…”
But, Schefter has been right before!
January 5th, 2012 at 9:58 pm
hwnrdr Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 9:54 pm
GG,
Saw that too, from Adam Schefter! When do you think it will be posted here?
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When Steve wakes up from his nightly nap.
January 5th, 2012 at 10:01 pm
LOL…
ANyways, I hope this goes through! I don’t like the “plan to hire…” stuff, but I guess its because we can’t hire him officially until GB’s season is over!
January 5th, 2012 at 10:01 pm
hwnrdr Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 9:56 pm
The only thing I don’t like is “A league source says…”
But, Schefter has been right before!
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Nah, the deed is done.
January 5th, 2012 at 10:02 pm
Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Reggie McKenzie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Go Raiders!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
January 5th, 2012 at 10:02 pm
YEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
January 5th, 2012 at 10:03 pm
Oh Happy Day!!!!!!!
January 5th, 2012 at 10:03 pm
Now let’s build a fkin TERROR of a defense!!!
January 5th, 2012 at 10:04 pm
We can hire him and have him working immediately. Rule on front office hires: can sign them immediately if they get full control of roster and draft. Which I am sure we will. If we don’t then he can’t be signed until the Packers season done. Hue’s contractual powers will pose a problem. Thus, either we can Hue to grant Reggie full control, or are re-doing Hue’s contract.
January 5th, 2012 at 10:04 pm
Hold on?!
I thought we can’t hire him now. His team is still playing.
January 5th, 2012 at 10:06 pm
We can see ^
January 5th, 2012 at 10:06 pm
I know the Nation was pissed after the SD game.
I was too.
Good news is we kind of figured from the start a Chuck B-run defense was going to suck. He is what he we thought he was.
Now we can get down to business.
Hue will handle sh;t on O and we’ll get someone fkin legit on D. Reggie will work some magic in March and handle the war room in April.
January 5th, 2012 at 10:13 pm
Is that true, GG? So that is why the report says that they are working out his duties?
January 5th, 2012 at 10:14 pm
If this report about McKenzie is true, this is the best thing to happen to the Raiders organization since January 1984.
This is a BIG, BIG deal.
We are about to become relevant again.
January 5th, 2012 at 10:19 pm
28 years! I did mention it a while ago that I wish some of these younger guys seen the glory years…everyone was hurting, some were saying since 2002! 28 years! Man, that is a long time! Never will forget that day!
We are coming back!
January 5th, 2012 at 10:19 pm
Raider Nation-Station
NEW!~ 01-05-12: WHY HACKS HATE HUE
“Power hungry football czar who’s ego is out of control.” Um, no…not really.
http://www.raidernationstation.com/exclusives
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F*** yeah!
Look how cr@p media try to smear because of fear. Fear of a silver and black planet…
January 5th, 2012 at 10:20 pm
870. Its been reported by at least 3 major sources. Says they’re “going after him” wjatever that means
January 5th, 2012 at 10:20 pm
So happy we got our Gm Where the hell is Cork? or J Mac hell even Jon Becker should have updated!!!
January 5th, 2012 at 10:21 pm
hwnrdr Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 10:13 pm
Is that true, GG? So that is why the report says that they are working out his duties?
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Yes, it’s true. McKenzie will get full control of roster and draft – why we CAN hire him. Him being hired means he got full control. Thus, the Hue situation to be resolved.
January 5th, 2012 at 10:22 pm
http://www.insidebayarea.com/remembering-al-davis
January 5th, 2012 at 10:25 pm
That is cool GG! Very cool! Now I can sleep better at nights! Lol..just kidding but now I know we are headed in the right direction!
January 5th, 2012 at 10:27 pm
Grab a woman and make happiness with her
January 5th, 2012 at 10:30 pm
GG Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 10:27 pm
Grab a woman and make happiness with her
LOL
January 5th, 2012 at 10:34 pm
Tribune’s ditching this blog. I hope you guys know that. Raider news all over the internet. Schefter, Silver, 95.7 all reporting that Raiders on the verge of hiring McKenzie. Nothing here. Still on yesterdays’ entry. They’re pulling the plug on this blog, chalking it up to a casualty of the twitterverse.
January 5th, 2012 at 10:39 pm
In glad to hear you Old Goats can still Make Happiness with women. Good for you.
January 5th, 2012 at 10:40 pm
If Mckenzie hire is on or happens, I think it might be a good thing for McClain. Reggie was a LB and could evaluate Mclain’s stuff. I’m not ready to give up on McClain the Irish Warrior yet. Had some better game before Chuckie B started doing his magic
January 5th, 2012 at 10:42 pm
RMR,
Making happiness with cousins and aunts doesn’t count.
January 5th, 2012 at 10:43 pm
Imagine if Hue Jackson hadn’t have taken charge when Al passed? Just twiddled his thumbs, started Boller, ended the season at 5-11? Damned if you do, damned if you don’t. HC for the Oakland Raiders is a thankless job. No matter what happens to Hue, I want to thank him for giving us some kind of shot this season. Hopefully he and McKenzie work together and he stays a couple of years.
January 5th, 2012 at 10:44 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 10:34 pm
Tribune’s ditching this blog. I hope you guys know that. Raider news all over the internet. Schefter, Silver, 95.7 all reporting that Raiders on the verge of hiring McKenzie. Nothing here. Still on yesterdays’ entry. They’re pulling the plug on this blog, chalking it up to a casualty of the twitterverse.
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With all the blog hits this place gets?
Not so sure of that.
Jerry/Cork not going to break news of hirings/firings, trades, etc., but still provide an interesting and valuable insight into the team itself.
Always support local.
January 5th, 2012 at 10:44 pm
Raider O, stfu you drunk idiot. Just because you can get drunk and post on a blog doesn’t make you a man.
January 5th, 2012 at 10:45 pm
Imagine if Hue Jackson hadn’t have taken charge when Al passed? Just twiddled his thumbs, started Boller, ended the season at 5-11? Damned if you do, damned if you don’t. HC for the Oakland Raiders is a thankless job. No matter what happens to Hue, I want to thank him for giving us some kind of shot this season. Hopefully he and McKenzie work together and he stays a couple of years.
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Agreed 100%
January 5th, 2012 at 10:46 pm
I don’t drink, and I was talking to Real Monkey Raider, so why are you so angry little man?
January 5th, 2012 at 10:47 pm
Oh, so you’re one of those geeks that acts drunk after having a soda and a candy bar? Whatever the case, stfu, Raider O. You’re not funny. You’re not witty. You’re not smart. You’re not original. You’re not interesting. You’re lucky you even have a name. So stfu.
January 5th, 2012 at 10:51 pm
[..] [..]
January 5th, 2012 at 10:51 pm
Getting a GM is good news and especially a personel guy of Reggie’s calibre, a former Raider no loss, with ties to guys like Ron Wolf.
Guy has been around a winner for the last, what, 10+ years and helped build it up into one of the NFL’s elite teams?
Sheeeeeit.
This is significant news.
Like not just one practice or one game but like, seasons. The direction of the franchise.
Best of luck to you, Reggie.
We deserve to be on top again and you’ll have a lot of pressure to deliver.
January 5th, 2012 at 10:52 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 10:43 pm
Imagine if…
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If Al hadn’t passed away, Hue would’ve been fired with the season ending the way it did. Or, gotten one more year (2012) then shown the door, as Al continued the carousel of cheap young HC’ing hires and old cheap DCs happy to get a gig in the NFL again and run Al’s system.
January 5th, 2012 at 10:52 pm
Hopefully McKenzie is guaranteed complete control in writing. If there’s some clause about “Raider tradition” or any stupid schit like that, forget it. McKenzie’ would just be a puppet, Herrera and Trask would still call the shots. This would all be for not. Hopefully someone in the media gets the specs of the contract.
January 5th, 2012 at 10:52 pm
Why is this little man so angry. Are you RMR’s cousin? did he Molest you?
January 5th, 2012 at 10:53 pm
MacKenzie seems like a pretty word up bro slammy slam.
I’ll get him on the Reggae Party Boat to see if he parties serious or is just a nerdy Madden Retard-style shut in.
Gotta bump some of my Coolio remixes if he hits the dance floor whut whut
January 5th, 2012 at 10:54 pm
So,
You think I’m Witty, smart, original, and interesting?
I do too. Thank you.
January 5th, 2012 at 10:55 pm
Raider O, the only people who talk about incest and molestation as much as you are right now are people who are either victims of it, or people who commit it. I don’t want to know which one it is in your case. If it’s the latter, god speed in law enforcement catching up with you. In the mean time, could you please just stfu?
January 5th, 2012 at 10:56 pm
Raiders are being critized (and justifiably so) for holding off firing whichever coaches they are planning to fire (or not bring back).
I read team has until January 15th to either retain or fire.
Holding out until the last minute will keep some good candidates to replace them, from making the Raiders their first choice.
January 5th, 2012 at 10:56 pm
MR, I sincerely doubt Reggie was brought in to be head of scouting or whatever.
It’s Mark’s team.
Mark went to his pops’ most trusted inner circle and asked what he should do.
They told him and he went and hired Reggie, who is highly respected and in demand. He chose Silver & Black.
As mentioned before, I don’t think he could be hired in the first place without a significant deal of control.
The question becomes, what happens with the current roster and the incumbent head coach?
Gut feeling?
Reggie listens to Hue cause Hue knows the team and I’m confident that he knows what needs to get done to take it in the right direction.
Hue was talking about an attitute adjustment.
Get rid of any remaining dead weight and get high motor guys that want to win more than anything.. Gru and Gannon style.
January 5th, 2012 at 10:56 pm
even San Diego has already fired their DC.
January 5th, 2012 at 10:56 pm
Little man needs attention?! You remind of this needy loser who molested his cousin, and wanted to do his aunt.
January 5th, 2012 at 10:57 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 10:43 pm
Imagine if Hue Jackson hadn’t have taken charge when Al passed? Just twiddled his thumbs, started Boller, ended the season at 5-11? Damned if you do, damned if you don’t. HC for the Oakland Raiders is a thankless job. No matter what happens to Hue, I want to thank him for giving us some kind of shot this season. Hopefully he and McKenzie work together and he stays a couple of years.
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Sullivan-
Just like that TD drive that the Raider defense gave up to the Chargers last weekend, I despise 99 and a half % of what you say.
BUT………………..
This post is 1000% true and I agree wit you completely.
Good post Sully.
January 5th, 2012 at 10:57 pm
Can you believe it’s this screwed up? Can you believe the Raiders can’t just come to a decision on the defensive staff? Aside from sentimental nepotism, can anyone name one logical reason Mark hasn’t fired John Herrera yet? I can’t believe there’s still this much chaos. It should have died with Al.
January 5th, 2012 at 10:58 pm
890. Go **** yourself
January 5th, 2012 at 10:59 pm
Needy loser’s name was Real Monkey Raider. Do you know him little needy angry monkey.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:00 pm
LA to the bay, One of the stipulations Al used to fire Kiffin was that in Kiffin’s contract, he had to abide by “Raider tradition”, whatever the hell that means. (winning is the only tradition I’m concerned with). If there’s any stupid crap like that in McKenzie’s contract, it’s more of the same. Honestly, it’s almost impossible for me to get excited about anything as long as that rodent Herrera is still in the building. Why is here there? What purpose does he serve? Don’t give me the sentimental crap. He’s part of a losing tradition, has had embarrassing incidents caught on camera. He brings nothing to the franchise other than being a ticking time bomb!!!
January 5th, 2012 at 11:00 pm
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January 5th, 2012 at 11:01 pm
GoodOle00 Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 10:58 pm
890. Go **** yourself
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Haha, u mad bro
January 5th, 2012 at 11:01 pm
Reggie is ours! Happy Raider fan here…David Stern can’t block it, can he? lol Fack Yeah!
January 5th, 2012 at 11:01 pm
Regardless of the mistakes that Hue made, and he made plenty…
Hue is one of the primary reasons that we sold out 8 straight home games, the most since the Raiders came back to Oakland. Without that happening, you can almost guarantee that the Raiders would have been halfway to LA by now trying to relocate.
Like MR said, the man gave us HOPE. Whether he stays or ends up being fired, I appreciate the positive things that he did here in Oakland.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:02 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 10:57 pm
Can you believe it’s this screwed up? Can you believe the Raiders can’t just come to a decision on the defensive staff? Aside from sentimental nepotism, can anyone name one logical reason Mark hasn’t fired John Herrera yet? I can’t believe there’s still this much chaos. It should have died with Al.
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Despite his ambiguous role, I think this shows you just how much pull Herrera had/has.
Herrera seemed to me to be pretty much Assistant GM/persoanl assistant/gopher.
With Reggie McKenzie coming into town, it may just eliminate the need for Herrera.
And really, they did make the decision on the coaching staff. They decided to fire them. And in typical Raider fashion, they haven’t done it in a media-friendly, obvious way.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:03 pm
But YEAAAHHHHHH Reggie Mckenzie!!!!!
If anything, his talent evaluation skills alone are worth its weight in gold!
Next, all I need to hear is that we hired a top notch defensive coordinator!
January 5th, 2012 at 11:04 pm
ArmChair,
Imagine if Hue didn’t take charge? Just went with Boller? Season’s in the toilet by early December, and Hue’s probably out. He takes charge, everyone hates him, because he couldn’t get over the 8 win mark with a cast of mostly mediocre players put together by one of the most dysfunctional organizations in all of sports. What a gig that Raiders HC is, huh? No wonder Cowher, Wisenhunt, and Peyton wouldn’t come here for the entire California coastline.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:06 pm
Don’t give me the sentimental crap. He’s part of a losing tradition, has had embarrassing incidents caught on camera. He brings nothing to the franchise other than being a ticking time bomb!!!
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Think you mistake me for the Company Line guy a bit too much.
Herrera was an extension of Al Davis in these last few abismal years (excluding the improved 2010 year and through week 6 of 2011).
As underhanded and frankly, cheap as Davis was, Herrera was that but without any fkin style or class.
I have 0 problem with Herrera sent packing like yesterday.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:09 pm
LAKE SHOW HOMIES STAND UP N REPRESENT
Yo yo we’re behind but with the strength of true Purple & Gold Laker blood (and a few tokes of this massive spliff) we can “put out the blaze” – patent pending on that sweet party phrase
Yo the moonwalk to our next ring is in full effect, just act Kool Moe Dee, runnin the show wit Curtis Blow
HOLLA SHORTIES MAGNUM JIMMIES IN MY FANNY PACK
January 5th, 2012 at 11:09 pm
If McKenzie really is given complete control (wont’ be sold on it until the team has a retraining order against Herrera even entering the building), I’m cool with whatever decision he makes, regarding HC, anything. Wolf was no doubt our de-facto GM in the glory years. It’s common knowledge. Al played a pivotal role, too. But the records don’t lie. Raiders with and without Wolf were two different franchises. Fact that McKenzie is a Wolf protege? My goodness. What a dream come true for Raider fans.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:09 pm
Also, how do you put “Raider Tradition” in a contract without defining it?
Lawyers would have a field day.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:10 pm
LA to the Bay, he fired Kiffin based on that “Raider tradition” clause, and Kiffin lost in arbitration. Evidently you can do it.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:10 pm
We need to get back on defense-Lakers getting ran on.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:19 pm
NBA fked the Lakers.
Granted, one PG doesn’t make the whole team, but what a building block that could have been.
Anyway, Lakers are gonna struggle this year. Sucks, but hey, at least the raiders got a GM.
MR,
Kiffin was fired for conduct detrimental to the Raiders, supposedly for negative comments made about the organization.
An arbitrator denied his grievance for his unpaid salary. I’m not sure if “Raider Tradition” is contractually defined or if it’s more Al Davis speaking in generalities.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:19 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 11:04 pm
ArmChair,
Imagine if Hue didn’t take charge? Just went with Boller? Season’s in the toilet by early December, and Hue’s probably out. He takes charge, everyone hates him, because he couldn’t get over the 8 win mark with a cast of mostly mediocre players put together by one of the most dysfunctional organizations in all of sports. What a gig that Raiders HC is, huh? No wonder Cowher, Wisenhunt, and Peyton wouldn’t come here for the entire California coastline.
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You’re right. Most fans would be saying that Hue didn’t do anything, and he should have known that Boller wasn’t the answer, and that he should have done something about it.
This was not a usual year for the Raiders by any stretch of the imagination. After Campbell went down, almost every analyst immediately wrote us off as having absolutely NO chance in hell to make the playoffs.
Like you said, Hue refused to let our hope die, and kept us in the hunt til the every end.
Like I said, he has a huge load of manure that he laid at times as well, and I’m not letting him off the hook for his faults, but seriously, give the guy some credit!
January 5th, 2012 at 11:19 pm
Raider O Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 6:50 pm
Raccoon,
I can’t believe it. It really hurts. We gave the division to Tebow. I’m pissed!!!!
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We will Win the AFC West in 2012!
If we do hire McKEnzie the first order of biz is to get a real DC, and finish rebuilding the O, and D lines.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:20 pm
John Black, pr man down Staples Way keepin that shave tight
Yo we gots to play that lock down D, bring back the Coop A Loop and get some locker room pics of the Laker Girls trying on each other’s panties
Schooly Fresh, Wizzle
January 5th, 2012 at 11:23 pm
new post
January 12th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
to all you Giordano haters out there-
how many of you have ever played in the nfl? how many of you ever had 5 interceptions in a season?(and I don’t mean when you’re sitting there in your boxers, on your couch playing madden)
Don’t diss a man who has a super bowl ring, intercepted Drew Brees or a player who Tony Dungy drafted. He is a good player and is cheap. If it wasn’t for bad defensive schemes then we wouldn’t be talking about this.
January 30th, 2012 at 4:24 am
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