ESPN: It’s McKenzie as GM
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, January 5th, 2012 at 11:21 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Reggie McKenzie will be hired as the new general manager for the Raiders, ESPN has reported.
McKenzie played for the Raiders from 1985-88, has worked his way up through the Green Bay Packers organization since 1994 and comes with the endorsement of former Packers and Raiders execs Ron Wolf and Ken Herock.
McKenzie confirmed his hiring to ESPNmilwaukee.com without making comment.
Multiple reports had McKenzie meeting with the Raiders Wednesday, and he has been reported as a person of interest since the death of owner Al Davis on Oct. 8. to bring stability to the front office.
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January 5th, 2012 at 11:22 pm
1st
January 5th, 2012 at 11:23 pm
Superbowl in 2 years. Print that.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:25 pm
Trip!
January 5th, 2012 at 11:25 pm
Packers beat writer traded texts with McKenzie, who confirmed he has accepted the job.
@jasonjwilde Jason Wilde
Just traded texts with Reggie McKenzie, who confirmed @AdamSchefter’s report that he’ll be the new Raiders GM but declined further comment.
https://twitter.com/#!/mortreport/status/155166722729586688
January 5th, 2012 at 11:26 pm
That’s what up Raider Nation, This is the making for a great year..R.I.P Big Al
January 5th, 2012 at 11:26 pm
Long live Al Davis.
Long live McKenzie!
January 5th, 2012 at 11:27 pm
ESPN’s article is wrong in one regard. Saying they are working on Reggie’s powers.
We can hire him and have him working immediately because the league rule on front office hirings from other teams is that they can be hired immediately if they get full control of roster and draft.
For us to officially hire him now means Reggie got full control. Thus, Hue’s contractual powers is the issue. Meaning we either let Hue go to grant Reggie full control, or are re-doing Hue’s contract that he reports directly to the GM.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:27 pm
John Black, pr man down Staples Way keepin that shave tight
Yo we gots to play that lock down D, bring back the Coop A Loop and get some locker room pics of the Laker Girls trying on each other’s panties
Schooly Fresh, Wizzle
January 5th, 2012 at 11:27 pm
I am so happy, finally a move that makes sense.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:27 pm
McKenzie’s to do list:
1) Fire John Herrera
Toilet paper with Herrera’s picture on it.
2) Fumigate Herrera’s office
3) Change all of the locks in the building
4) File a restraining order against Herrera
5) Hire private security to tail Herrera on public streets, to notify facility if he gets within 2 miles of hq
6) Put dart boards with John Herrera’s picture on it all over the building.
7) Door mats with Herrera’s picture on it, all over the building.
9) Discuss DC hire with Hue Jackson
January 5th, 2012 at 11:29 pm
Its all business now!
January 5th, 2012 at 11:29 pm
RIP Mr. Davis.
Reggie McKenzie!!!!!!
Oh Happy Day!!!!
January 5th, 2012 at 11:30 pm
Who will Hue hire as DC?
January 5th, 2012 at 11:30 pm
Mark Davis you are the freaking man… Your dad would be proud! Now get us a new stadium in the “O” so we can compete.. Just Win Baby!
January 5th, 2012 at 11:31 pm
All aboard on the super bowl bound train.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:31 pm
McKenzie’s to do list:
1- fire Chucky
2- help RMR’S get a life, and stop blaming Al for all that is wrong in his life.
3- get RMR to stop molesting his cousin.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:32 pm
Davis/Jackson/Campbell
Mark Davis/Reggie McKenzie/Hue Jackson/ Carson Palmer.
What a f’n year.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:32 pm
Hiring Reggie will Conntinue Al’s legacy of hard work and dedication to the Silver & Black!
Welcome Home Reggie!
January 5th, 2012 at 11:32 pm
Raccoon,
Do you mean who will McKenzie hire for DC?
January 5th, 2012 at 11:32 pm
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d825bff15/article/packers-mckenzie-to-get-raiders-gm-job-according-to-report?module=HP11_headline_stack
January 5th, 2012 at 11:32 pm
Sure Thing Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 11:31 pm
All aboard on the super bowl bound train.
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Sounds like a Gap Band song!
January 5th, 2012 at 11:33 pm
Matt Flynn could come to the Raiders now.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:33 pm
Got my train ticket…Sure Thing!
January 5th, 2012 at 11:33 pm
Alright time for Mr. McKenzie to find us some boar hunters!
January 5th, 2012 at 11:34 pm
http://www.espnmilwaukee.com/corp/page/01%2F05%2F12_McKenzie_to_join_Raiders/374?feed=2
January 5th, 2012 at 11:35 pm
Just 3 months ago:
Al Davis/Hue Jackson/Jason Campbell
Today:
Mark Davis/Reggie McKenzie/Hue Jackson/Carson Palmer
2 complete different franchises. Just unbelievable.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:35 pm
Going to Tootsies to see fully undressed light skindeded Dominican girls exchange saliva. After that I’m going to hop on the MANBOAT 3000 and have an orgy with the best looking midgets my EBT card can buy. All while toking Scandanavian neon tipped green leaf in my new #54 Reggie Mckenzie Raider jersey.
Goin’ nuts nizzle, swanson flow Swayze!
January 5th, 2012 at 11:36 pm
More like…
Al Davis/Al Davis – Hue Jackson – Jason Campbell
Mark Davis – Hue Jackson/Hue Jackson – Carson Palmer
Mark Davis – Reggie McKenzie – ?? – ??
January 5th, 2012 at 11:37 pm
Hell Yeahhhhh.
1st question to McKenzie at the presser:
It’s well documented that you can tell us who can and can’t play.
Can McClain play?
January 5th, 2012 at 11:37 pm
HC should be allowed to hire his own DC. If McKenzie sticks with Hue, I’m pretty sure he’ll let Hue choose his own staff. And, if that happens, you have the profound change in organizational structure pointed out above, and a complete new defensive philosophy, something more modern and in tune with today’s game. We’re finally an NFL team again.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:38 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 11:35 pm
Just 3 months ago:
Al Davis/Hue Jackson/Jason Campbell
Today:
Mark Davis/Reggie McKenzie/Hue Jackson/Carson Palmer
2 complete different franchises. Just unbelievable.
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So, um, any props to the organization for that?
Season ended on a sour note, but to lose Owner/GM/Defensive Coordinator/Asst. Offensive Head Coach/Head of pro and college scouting/Chief Accountant/Face of franchise and still have a shot at the dance week 17 with that ridicuous defense?
Sheeeit.
2011 will be known as the stepping stone year. A 1999 type year.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:38 pm
Sulli, will you still pick teams to beat us? Clock in and be a full-time Raider fan! j/k bro
January 5th, 2012 at 11:40 pm
LA to the Bay,
Al did a lot of great things, and of course we don’t wish death on anyone. But face it, he’s been horrible as GM in recent years, and him no longer being GM is addition by subtraction.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:40 pm
Hue may get to pick his own DC, but the GM better put his stamp of approval on it too, or else we could wind up with someone like we had in 011
January 5th, 2012 at 11:40 pm
Awesome job. Kudos to all the former raiders for helping out. RIP Al Davis. Great job Mark Davis. Now i know what it means when they say the king is dead, long live the king.
Again thank you John madden, Ron wolf and whoever else.
Finally superbowl time.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:41 pm
Winston Moss, anyone? Kevin Greene as LB’s coach! I’d love that.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:42 pm
Sullivan is a Niners fan and used an alias on the day of Al’s death to post here a whole bunch of celebratory posts that Al died and mocking Al, and saying now next in line to troll is Amy.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:43 pm
I still don’t think the NFL will let us win a SB. But now we’ll compete and knock on the door again. I don’t think it was just about Al. I don’t think they want “ghetto” Oakland to win it all. Same with Detroit. They like their jet set franchises winning the big one.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:44 pm
GG, let it to. This is a great day in the Raider Nation. Everyone’s happy except for you.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:45 pm
Raider O Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 11:31 pm
McKenzie’s to do list:
1- fire Chucky
2- help RMR’S get a life, and stop blaming Al for all that is wrong in his life.
3- get RMR to stop molesting his cousin.
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Post of the day!
January 5th, 2012 at 11:45 pm
big news not via twitter. sweet. espn busted it. we goin for real now. no more value village cordinators. No more recycled football cleats. no more same ol same ol. this team took a magnificent step today. bound for glory. we gettin it on now.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:46 pm
Everyone’s happy tonight except GG, Raider O, and Dirty Raccoon. You tell me, guys. Do they really want to see the Raiders win, or do they just have some invested interest in Al’s old guard running the team, win or lose? They seem upset. Sad, really.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:46 pm
The NFL shouldn’t let us win the Superbowl, our players, coaches and front office staff will eventually lead us there again. Go Raiders!
January 5th, 2012 at 11:47 pm
Outfreakinstanding. Might now start to get over the loss.
I mean really, not a single punt in the biggest game of the year? Really?
January 5th, 2012 at 11:48 pm
Next in line: ?
January 5th, 2012 at 11:48 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 11:43 pm
I still don’t think the NFL will let us win a SB. But now we’ll compete and knock on the door again. I don’t think it was just about Al. I don’t think they want “ghetto” Oakland to win it all. Same with Detroit. They like their jet set franchises winning the big one.
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By saying “ghetto” you mean what? Poor? Crowded? Old?
January 5th, 2012 at 11:48 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 11:44 pm
let it to.
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So, when Al fired Gruden, you grant yourself the right for 10 years of Al and Raider hate, becoming a Niners fan, trolling Raider Nation, wishing Al death, etc. Then when Al dies you actually do engage in dancing on his coffin under an alias. Then when the Raiders announce a regime change (mckenzie) now you apparently grant yourself the right to return as a Raider fan and start talking about “we”.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:49 pm
No more looking back from today on. 2012 season, here we come.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:50 pm
I’m not buying it either GG. Better to ignore the flamebait i always say….
January 5th, 2012 at 11:50 pm
GG, WHAT IS THE MATTER WITH YOU?
EVERYONE’S CELEBRATING! EVERYONE! WHY CAN’T YOU JOIN US? WHY? WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM? WHY DO YOU FLAT OUT REJECT JOY?
January 5th, 2012 at 11:52 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 11:46 pm
You tell me, guys.
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Haha at your attempt to try to get back in cozy with “the guys”, thinking you even have “guys” and can associate yourself with Raider Nation using the “we”
January 5th, 2012 at 11:52 pm
HELL YEA IM HELLA EXCITED!!!!!!!!!!! We’ll finally be Revelant again!. Would it be possibly to get rey maualuga from the Bengals and put him as our LOLB???
January 5th, 2012 at 11:53 pm
Raider O Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 11:32 pm
Raccoon,
Do you mean who will McKenzie hire for DC?
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Yeah, hopefully with Hues recommendation.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:53 pm
Just sayin this is very euforimatic and orgasmically correct as my fine fine cousin.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:53 pm
JLofty Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 11:50 pm
I’m not buying it either GG. Better to ignore the flamebait i always say….
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Kudos to you. You are right. Great news for Raider Nation tonight. Great times ahead for the Raiders and us fans.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:53 pm
31.LA to TheBay Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 11:38 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 11:35 pm
Just 3 months ago:
Al Davis/Hue Jackson/Jason Campbell
Today:
Mark Davis/Reggie McKenzie/Hue Jackson/Carson Palmer
2 complete different franchises. Just unbelievable.
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So, um, any props to the organization for that?
Season ended on a sour note, but to lose Owner/GM/Defensive Coordinator/Asst. Offensive Head Coach/Head of pro and college scouting/Chief Accountant/Face of franchise and still have a shot at the dance week 17 with that ridicuous defense?
Sheeeit.
2011 will be known as the stepping stone year. A 1999 type year.
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thats a great point. i look at this past seaon like the 99 year. it was the final year in a transition period towards our success. we werent ready to handle all of the hurdles last year. too many injuries, al’s death, incompetent coaches and players on d with a brash rookie HC.its sad to say but sometimes u have to go thru disappointment like this to understand u cant fugg off opportunities they just had. now there will be no excuses and we will be better prepared for the future. the rebirth of the raiders have begun. return of the dark side baby.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:54 pm
GG, glad you’re finally lightening up. Good grief. Best day for the Raider Nation probably since the ‘83 Super Bowl victory, and all you want to do is start a flame war.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:56 pm
Great news, here’s to a new era in Raider football.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:56 pm
TheMontyShow Tim Montemayor
Player: #Hue is liked not necessarily respected McClain decision hurt him in the locker room “why drag it out all week” #Raiders @KNBR
TheMontyShow Tim Montemayor
This is the 3rd player who referenced the McClain situation and lost respect for Hue among players #Raiders @KNBR
…..
This is why Raiders quit after the McClain arrest.
All Hue’s talk about changing things sounds like BS.
The players think he is full of sh!t just like some of us perceptive fans.
I told you Hue was a Bullsh!tter weeks ago.
His days are numbered now.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:57 pm
No more stupid penalties and personal foul crap. Big Reg can show them the fckng door, cuz u know the coaches cant.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:57 pm
Raccoon,
Do you think Hue earned that much credibility, or is it due to him being the HC?
January 5th, 2012 at 11:57 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 11:43 pm
I still don’t think the NFL will let us win a SB. But now we’ll compete and knock on the door again. I don’t think it was just about Al. I don’t think they want “ghetto” Oakland to win it all. Same with Detroit. They like their jet set franchises winning the big one.
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Dude, your not a freaking Raider fan! Don’t you have a fellow 9′er fan to go diddle at the Rectory?
January 5th, 2012 at 11:58 pm
This is really great news.
Guy tonight on Chicago radio wanted him bad. Callers did to. They hoped to steal a guy from GB.
Some want Decosta but majority wanted MCKenzie.
Too bad.
January 5th, 2012 at 11:59 pm
I thought me, GG, and Raccoon are happy about the new GM.
You are just like RMR, fishing for attention. You have a hunger for attention, and what makes it odd is that you seek the attention from men?!
Odd really. Are you guys related?
January 6th, 2012 at 12:00 am
Its all good
January 6th, 2012 at 12:01 am
Are you RMR little molested cousin?
January 6th, 2012 at 12:02 am
djohnnyg Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 11:58 pm
This is really great news.
Guy tonight on Chicago radio wanted him bad. Callers did to. They hoped to steal a guy from GB.
Some want Decosta but majority wanted MCKenzie.
Too bad.
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Yep, every crappy team wanted this guy. I am in Illinois and Bears fan and Rams fan are devastated this guy is off the market..It was the one thing that I feared about our offseason move for a GM, that we would wait too long to hire one..Well count me stunned….
Now I hope we don’t waste too much time grabbing a DC..I bet McK is sending out Texts right now to possible coordinators..
You know who they are too.
January 6th, 2012 at 12:03 am
BTW. I meant “too bad” for Chi.
January 6th, 2012 at 12:04 am
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January 6th, 2012 at 12:04 am
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Yep, every crappy team wanted this guy. I am in Illinois and Bears fan and Rams fan are devastated this guy is off the market..It was the one thing that I feared about our offseason move for a GM, that we would wait too long to hire one..Well count me stunned….
Now I hope we don’t waste too much time grabbing a DC..I bet McK is sending out Texts right now to possible coordinators..
You know who they are too.
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No I don’t. Of whom do you speak?
January 6th, 2012 at 12:05 am
W Moss maybe.
January 6th, 2012 at 12:07 am
Spags
Del Rio
Thurman
January 6th, 2012 at 12:08 am
Who is Thurman?
I like Del Rio and Spag…
January 6th, 2012 at 12:09 am
http://espnmilwaukee.com/upload/ReggieMcKenzieRaiders.jpg
any 54’s going to be put up at the store?
January 6th, 2012 at 12:10 am
Dennis Thurman…the guy the Jets denied us permission to talk to for the DC job..and we got Chucky B as a consolation prize..
Cost us the freakin playoffs depending how you look at it.
January 6th, 2012 at 12:12 am
I asked Tim Montemayor if Hue could get the locker room back.
He said players were pissed he threw them under the bus and he will have to make peace with them over that issue.
F’N Hue Jackson is as big a reason as any why the Raiders aren’t in the playoffs.
The first thing McKenzie needs to do is rain in this punk azz HC and get him and his ego under control.
January 6th, 2012 at 12:13 am
wasbanned Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 12:12 am
I asked Tim Montemayor if Hue could get the locker room back.
He said players were pissed he threw them under the bus and he will have to make peace with them over that issue.
F’N Hue Jackson is as big a reason as any why the Raiders aren’t in the playoffs.
The first thing McKenzie needs to do is rain in this punk azz HC and get him and his ego under control.
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Those ‘players’ need to take a good long hard look in the freakin mirror.
January 6th, 2012 at 12:14 am
Thx Mike. Now I remember.
LOL
January 6th, 2012 at 12:15 am
Yessir!
January 6th, 2012 at 12:16 am
AWESOME news!!! But now he needs to bring in a good staff for Director of Pro player personell, Director of College player personell, etc. Hope he brings in Eliott Wolfe with him….this is fantastic news!!!!
January 6th, 2012 at 12:18 am
Wow. Finally, we get a guy that is highly regarded in the league. Let’s get a good DC in here and we’re playoff bound again. Looking forward to the offseason.
January 6th, 2012 at 12:19 am
Thrown under the bus? By a coach? Jeeeez, C’mon. It’s about time he opened his mouth and called out players and units. What a bunch of little babies. All coaches ( good ones) do it from time to time. Too many pressers and coaches to even name that have done that.
No more coddling these guys. Grow a pair, this is the NFL. They can go join intramurals.
January 6th, 2012 at 12:20 am
Nice job Mark Davis.
Welcome Reg McKenzie.
Wolf Jr next?
January 6th, 2012 at 12:23 am
76.wasbanned Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 12:12 am
I asked Tim Montemayor if Hue could get the locker room back.
He said players were pissed he threw them under the bus and he will have to make peace with them over that issue.
F’N Hue Jackson is as big a reason as any why the Raiders aren’t in the playoffs.
The first thing McKenzie needs to do is rain in this punk azz HC and get him and his ego under control.
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OMG!!! You’e got to be kidding me. SCREW the players that say that. They deserved to be thrown under the bus. These freaking prima donna choke artists have the gall to be mad at Hue? Hue wasn’t the one who choked away 99 and 98 yd. drives that could’ve won the division.
SCREW THEM.
January 6th, 2012 at 12:25 am
Hue never mentioned anyone by name and he wasn’t even that critical.
I hope the defense just gets up and walks out.
They all could be replaced by this years LSU defense and LSU finds a way to make a stop.
January 6th, 2012 at 12:26 am
morilla Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 12:19 am
Thrown under the bus? By a coach? Jeeeez, C’mon. It’s about time he opened his mouth and called out players and units. What a bunch of little babies. All coaches ( good ones) do it from time to time. Too many pressers and coaches to even name that have done that.
No more coddling these guys. Grow a pair, this is the NFL. They can go join intramurals.
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Like when Bill Callahan called out his team?
Sometimes that crap can backfire.
Veteran, established coaches EARN the right to call out players.
Hue hasn’t earned that right.
Some of you guys just don’t want to face the fact that Hue still has a long ways to go.
I’m not saying he can’t get there, but he needs to be rained in and mentored. Remember, he not only lost an owner when Al Davis passed, but he also lost the guy who was developing him as a coach.
January 6th, 2012 at 12:27 am
There’s a new Sherriff in town…
thank goodness, someone to hold these guys accountable who isn’t just some suit and tie…
the Country Club is CLOSED!
January 6th, 2012 at 12:29 am
A coach should never call out players in press conferences, just like players are told/know not to call out their teammates or their coaches to the media. Everything should be handled in house — any justified anger from coaches to players or players to coaches.
January 6th, 2012 at 12:30 am
I’m relieved.
Glad we got that done, and Chicago wanting him made me a little
nervous.
Lets see if we can get this thing back on track now.
January 6th, 2012 at 12:30 am
I think Hue earned the right by the fact he was coach of the team.
You can’t hire a HC and tell him to be meek and mild around the players so as not offend them.
I’m sure Gruden didn’t tip toe around the lockerroom his first year.
I’m sorry, but I have no sympathy for that POS defense that cost me my weekend happiness…and caused me much misery.
January 6th, 2012 at 12:31 am
Veteran, established coaches EARN the right to call out players.
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The puzzling question is why didn’t veterans call out players , instead
of getting ejected from games?
January 6th, 2012 at 12:32 am
Djohnnyg Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 12:30 am
I think Hue earned the right by the fact he was coach of the team.
You can’t hire a HC and tell him to be meek and mild around the players so as not offend them.
I’m sure Gruden didn’t tip toe around the lockerroom his first year.
I’m sorry, but I have no sympathy for that POS defense that cost me my weekend happiness…and caused me much misery.
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I agree. Jackson can only do so much.
January 6th, 2012 at 12:34 am
I don’t see where Hue called out ANYBODY personally. He mentioned no names specifically.
If any players feel he attacked THEM personally then it’s their own guilty feelings.
January 6th, 2012 at 12:35 am
Mark and Amy need to continue moving in the right direction by cleaning up the disfunction in the front office and that should start with removing John Herrera. His confrontation with Kawakami, sophomoric comments about Gannon and generally juvenile behavior when dealing with the media were outright embarrassments. The legend of Al Davis should live-on without his court jester reminding us his sad final years.
January 6th, 2012 at 12:36 am
RaiderSam Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 12:31 am
Veteran, established coaches EARN the right to call out players.
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The puzzling question is why didn’t veterans call out players , instead
of getting ejected from games?
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How do you know they didn’t? You have no clue what goes on in the locker room.
That’s why you would never know because a veteran player or coach would keep that stuff in house.
Not do it to the media.
January 6th, 2012 at 12:36 am
Excellent hire!
Now let’s see what the next few weeks bring…
It’s gonna be an awesome off-season, I think.
January 6th, 2012 at 12:37 am
I agree with you Wasbanned on the point. What Callahan was different than what Hue did. Calling your team stupid is, well it’s just stupid. But something needed to be said. We all knew it. We all saw it. No one could ignore the facts.
January 6th, 2012 at 12:39 am
I’m so excited I can’t sleep.
January 6th, 2012 at 12:43 am
WOW
January 6th, 2012 at 12:46 am
Pack fans can be mad all they want but we had McKenzie first. He’s a former player coming back to his old team.
Same with Wolf. Shoulda never let him go to Green Bay. Look what he did with that franchise.
We get Eliot and we have the whole freaking family.
January 6th, 2012 at 12:47 am
I wonder if Biekert and Woodson will be retained?
January 6th, 2012 at 12:51 am
This news is a bit of healing salve to the disaster of last weekend.
Now, I may be able to enjoy the playoffs a bit.
Maybe I can talk myself into believing that losing to SD and not making it this year was somehow, someway, for the best…or not.
January 6th, 2012 at 12:55 am
Everyone, pay close attention to the people posting negative comments tonight, trying to turn the conversation toward’s Hue and faults they have with him.
January 6th, 2012 at 12:55 am
In thinking long term of the ramifications of last Sunday is it possible if we made the playoffs that McKenzie gets snapped up before Mark has the chance?
January 6th, 2012 at 12:56 am
DJohnny,
Let’s face it. The Raiders with Wolf and the Raiders without Wolf were two complete different franchises. With Wolf we’re one of the best franchises in the league. Without him, we’re mediocre at best. Having at least a Wolf protege back in Oakland is probably the most we could do to revive the great Raider teams of the past.
January 6th, 2012 at 12:57 am
Mark Davis/Reggie McKenzie/Hue Jackson/Carson Palmer.
3 months ago:
Al Davis/Hue Jackson/Jason Campbell
Does anyone still not get it?
January 6th, 2012 at 12:59 am
Yeah. Hue sure as heck did alot of good stuff with the team we could talk about.
January 6th, 2012 at 1:03 am
Sulli, yes. I would take his eldest daughter and put her in as defensive coordinator if she’d take the gig.
January 6th, 2012 at 1:03 am
Yessssss…….Congratulations Mark and Amy. Stank AL’s taint is receding; I can walk into the room without vomiting.
Next man up: Fire Hue Jackson, clean out the staff, and schlubs from the roster, and we’ll be ready to rock.
January 6th, 2012 at 1:04 am
Hue’s gone.
January 6th, 2012 at 1:09 am
Mckenzie doesn’t have the power to fire John Herrera idiots.
January 6th, 2012 at 1:09 am
RIP Al Davis. We love you. The team you built will return to its rightful place of NFL Greatness soon.
January 6th, 2012 at 1:11 am
We must rid ourselves of that clown: did anyone here he was caught with Sandusky in the shower?? That was after he announced that DMAC was slated to practice on Wed.
January 6th, 2012 at 1:12 am
Yeah. Maybe even some ‘Pride and Poise’.
Remember that one?
January 6th, 2012 at 1:12 am
“hear***” he was caught with Sandusky
January 6th, 2012 at 1:13 am
Pride and Poise…..I remember….
January 6th, 2012 at 1:14 am
111.SharkCatcher Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 1:09 am
Mckenzie doesn’t have the power to fire John Herrera idiots.
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Hmmmmm. Yes. We gotta figure out something to do about that guy.
He’s like the stain on the nice new shirt.
January 6th, 2012 at 1:17 am
the emphasis has to be on improving the defense….I love that he is a defensive guy, so we should see improvements
January 6th, 2012 at 1:21 am
Great news would be Eliot Wolf takes over the duties of… whatever it is that Herrera does.
January 6th, 2012 at 1:23 am
#118,
It’ll be interesting to see what he thinks of McClain.
January 6th, 2012 at 1:23 am
Eliot would come over as assistant to Reggie, some title like president of personnel. What Herrera does is an executive role related to public relations and media.
January 6th, 2012 at 1:24 am
Off to bed. With visions of sugarplumbs and lollipops.
January 6th, 2012 at 1:31 am
GG, He doesn’t seem to exhibit the type of demeanor one might expect from someone working in that capacity.
January 6th, 2012 at 1:36 am
38.Sullivan44 Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 11:43 pm
I still don’t think the NFL will let us win a SB. But now we’ll compete and knock on the door again. I don’t think it was just about Al. I don’t think they want “ghetto” Oakland to win it all. Same with Detroit. They like their jet set franchises winning the big one.
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If that was the case then the Saints wouldn’t have one and possibly another this year. Plus the SB is down here next year.
New Orleans, LA. 2011 United States Murder Capitol.
I remember when we had the NBA All Star game here a few years ago and those tatoo’d up ballers were voicing their concerns about coming to play in it because they said it was not safe here.
Well for now, Telly Hankton and Michael “Mike Mike” Anderson are behind bars now. Google them. But their cousins and deciples are out roaming the streets.
January 6th, 2012 at 1:38 am
I am guessing we will see Mark Davis speak for the first time announcing this hiring.Should be interesting.
January 6th, 2012 at 2:05 am
This hire would have happened even if Al was still alive. It is good for the Raiders.
January 6th, 2012 at 2:33 am
Raider Nation-Station
BREAKING: 01-06-12: MCKENZIE TO MANAGE RAIDERS
Its all but a done deal and the best move Oakland has made in a decade…
http://www.raidernationstation.com/raider_war_room
January 6th, 2012 at 2:36 am
124. They let New Oerleans win as a consolation prize for the Katrina scam.
January 6th, 2012 at 2:36 am
120. I think Hue and Reggie have a clue who Romac is
January 6th, 2012 at 2:37 am
this hire is the best raider news i’ve heard for a very long time
January 6th, 2012 at 3:11 am
VittorioTafur Vittorio Tafur
The gift of McKenzie from Ron Wolf will come with a complete overhaul of the scouting department. Days of former players as scouts are done
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January 6th, 2012 at 3:42 am
Oh,yessssssssssssssss……I freakin’ love my Raaaaaaidersssssssssss….!!!!
A big,big hug and lots of love to all my silver and black brothers in this huge moment for our Organization,from a fan located in Rome-Italy…..even miles and miles away,overseas,I bleed silver and black every freakin’ day….!
God bless you all.
January 6th, 2012 at 3:42 am
Its crazy waking up to see this , I had to make coffee and sit down and savor this. One more big move ron wolf son and a game planning defensive coach. The future is getting brighter. Im happy for every raiderfan on earth we deserve to dominate the nfl and be one of the toughest nastiest oh and win win and win for decades again . GO raiders forever
January 6th, 2012 at 4:07 am
Torto-
You are my brother!
Raider Nation for LIFE!!!
January 6th, 2012 at 4:14 am
Mr. McKenzie I ask that you find the wild boar hunters that we need on defense. Lord knows we are lacking them at the moment. I have full faith in your abilities to scout talent and holding the players accountable for their play. Cleaning up the front office a bit and taking the reins away from Hue Jax a must. Keeping the coach focused on preparing this team for Sundays. Welcome home Reggie.
Let’s Go RaiderNation Return to Glory…..Haters beware!!
January 6th, 2012 at 4:26 am
Rise and shine,, to wake up this morning and see that we got McKenzie is the best Raiders news in what,,,10-12 years. We’re finally catching up with the rest if the modern NFL. We all love Al but his way wasn’t cuttn it,,and I said a week ago that we’ll find out who Mark really is come offseason. It’s just nice to know he’s not following all if his dads footsteps. Now we can right the Raider ship. I’ve said all year that instead of building a bully, we need to build a football team, and we’ve just laid the foundation last night. I’m predicting we’re gona wheel and deal by trading some players for draft picks (mid rnd probably). I think we’re about to have a garage sale on defense.
Building a Football Team
January 6th, 2012 at 4:32 am
Raiderrrsssss ……..
January 6th, 2012 at 4:53 am
Torto34….
Always happy to see another Raider on this side of the pond!
January 6th, 2012 at 4:57 am
After a week of dull,heavy cloud – the sun is out.
Mr.McKenzie……time to go to work.
January 6th, 2012 at 5:08 am
Great way to start the day on the east coast. This is the best hire we have made on years. Time to return to glory. Now imagine if we still had our first round pick, and Carson Palmer wasn’t here….Matt Flynn would be packing for the bay. I still commend Coach Jackson for making the call to try to sacrafice the season…he must have thought we were almost there. Well, with this fantastic hiring we will be soon. Long live the only nation….Raider Nation!!!!!
January 6th, 2012 at 5:08 am
*in years
January 6th, 2012 at 5:08 am
I’ll have to update my blog with a song rewrite for McKenzie. Still trying to catch up with one for Cable and one for Bush.
January 6th, 2012 at 5:14 am
Discount Double Check anyone?
January 6th, 2012 at 5:25 am
Anyone have any suggesttions on how to get rid of this massive hard-on before I walk into my office? Hell yeah Raider Nation!!!!
January 6th, 2012 at 5:37 am
Sounds like the guy who mentioned the 10 second interview is about how it went!
Mark: Are you Reggie McKenzie?
Reggie: Yes
Mark: Welcome Aboard!
January 6th, 2012 at 5:39 am
We need a Defence Double Check to weed out the bums
January 6th, 2012 at 5:50 am
Defintely…to 146.
January 6th, 2012 at 5:51 am
There’s going to be a garage sale on defense in which we’ll use to acquire mid round picks and some legit FAs,,maybe. This move also puts Hue on notice as well because the Raiders HC job has just become pretty attractive. Looking forward to taking a nasty nose tackle in the mid-round after we make a deal.
January 6th, 2012 at 6:00 am
@ armchair:
Glad to hear that,bro….!
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@ Neilb :
happy to know I’m not the one and only,my man!
January 6th, 2012 at 6:18 am
Great news! He’s definitely got the pedigree. I’m thrilled about the hire.
But I do wonder . . . did Mark interview anyone else for the job? Is there no reverse-Rooney rule? lol
January 6th, 2012 at 6:20 am
I for one am so on board with this, think I’ll start drinking at noon just to celebrate!
Mr McKenzie,
Welcome aboard and let’s do this!
Sincerely,
Raider Fan looking for his heart.
January 6th, 2012 at 6:25 am
Raiderbuck Says:
I for one am so on board with this, think I’ll start drinking at noon just to celebrate!
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Hahaha! Well, I’ll definitely be much more at ease as I head to Jamaica in 36 hours. I’ll imbibe in peace on the island.
January 6th, 2012 at 6:27 am
So we end the 2011 season with a solid Win!!…
Reggie McKenzie… Welcome back Raider……..
January 6th, 2012 at 6:27 am
Here’s a weird thought, maybe Hue doesn’t want to be here now. hue wants really badly to be the man who turned the Raiders around and made them great again. Now, any success the Raiders have from this point forward is going to be given to McKenzie, not Huejackcity. Now maybe Hue wants out! (I doubt it, but could be a scenario.)
January 6th, 2012 at 6:29 am
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/06/raiders-will-hire-reggie-mckenzie/
Hey look!
January 6th, 2012 at 6:31 am
We’ve got a guy ( Reggie Mc) who can sort all our team questions and problems….. This is outstanding……Finally….
January 6th, 2012 at 6:34 am
I don’t know if I’ve ever seen this blog so,…unified.
January 6th, 2012 at 6:37 am
Raiderbuck… Yep.. Good feeling… Haven’t heard anybody ever knock this guys work ethic…
Everybody speaks highly of McKenzie…
We’ve got a right to feel good about this …
January 6th, 2012 at 6:38 am
I feel like we ended on a winning note with McKenzie onboard …
January 6th, 2012 at 6:42 am
I WONT BELIEVE IT UNTIL I HEAR IT FROM JOHN HERERRA’S LIPS…
January 6th, 2012 at 6:42 am
Raiderbuck Says:
I don’t know if I’ve ever seen this blog so,…unified.
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If Reggie dismisses Hue, this blog will return to its usual game of infighting amongst the Nation.
January 6th, 2012 at 6:44 am
Raiderbuck,,,we’re about to see what Hue is really made of,, I doubt he’ll want out because there’s only handful of HC jobs and the Raiders just became more appealing so he’ll either get right or get out,,,,pretty simple.
January 6th, 2012 at 6:46 am
Reggie McKenzie will be hired as the new general manager for the Raiders, ESPN has reported.
McKenzie confirmed his hiring to ESPNmilwaukee.com without making comment.
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Raiders, baby!
January 6th, 2012 at 6:47 am
I’m so excited I think I just pee’d a little,,…
January 6th, 2012 at 6:47 am
I WONT BELIEVE IT UNTIL I HEAR IT FROM JOHN HERERRA’S LIPS…
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LOL!
Dirt Lot, you crack me up every day bro.
Wish I could attend a game and tailgate with you, Hwnrdr & the B@uce
January 6th, 2012 at 6:50 am
The gift of McKenzie from Ron Wolf will come with a complete overhaul of the scouting department. Days of former players as scouts are done – Vittorio Tafur
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Who’s gonna find the next JaMarcus Russell or Rolando McClain, then?
January 6th, 2012 at 6:53 am
I can’t wait to see Hue Jackson make some announcement saying how he gave his stamp of approval on the new GM and how he’s excited about working together next season.
Hilarious – even if it’s true!
January 6th, 2012 at 6:53 am
Alright, alright, alright! YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWW!!!
This is the way to kick off a Friday! Great news.
January 6th, 2012 at 6:56 am
“This is why a lot of established coaches don’t want to work for Raiders. They play games, instead of just manning up and firing people,” Silver writes. “They say, ‘Oh, you have a year on your contract? You’ve been reassigned to scouting.’ Daring them to leave or void contract.” – Mike Silver
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Hue Jackson re-assigned to OC
Al Saunders re-assigned to Passing Game Coordinator
Chuck B, R Wood, Ross & Biekert contracts expired
Reggie Mac = GM of the year !!!
January 6th, 2012 at 6:56 am
SILVER AND BLACK ARE BACK ! BIG TIME ! Welcome home Reggie! Now hire Jack Del Rio for DC and away we go
January 6th, 2012 at 6:58 am
GOOD DAY 2 ALL.POST-104 IS A GOOD POINT.ROCKSTAR,WOULD LIKE THAT VERY MUCH.WOULD BE A PLEASURE TO MEET YOU AND YOUR FAMILY.PLAN IT MAN.
January 6th, 2012 at 6:58 am
Al Davis will be smiling down from heaven when he sees his son and a former Raider (recommended from Ron Wolf) lead the Raiders back to greatness
January 6th, 2012 at 7:00 am
Too bad for those 4.2 and 4.3 40yd combine runners. They’re not guarenteed to get drafted anymore.
January 6th, 2012 at 7:01 am
Let’s see where Reggie stands on Hue Jackson.
I vote for a massive overhaul, for the whole organization.
From the staff, down to the lower-level scouts.
January 6th, 2012 at 7:04 am
Spagnuolo is next man up!
January 6th, 2012 at 7:09 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
And it keeps getting better!
165.RaiderRockstar Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 6:47 am
I WONT BELIEVE IT UNTIL I HEAR IT FROM JOHN HERERRA’S LIPS…
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LOL!
Dirt Lot, you crack me up every day bro.
Wish I could attend a game and tailgate with you, Hwnrdr & the B@uce
One day brother! one day!
January 6th, 2012 at 7:10 am
BTW: Gabby…get these boys whatever they want for breakfast and coffee!
January 6th, 2012 at 7:11 am
Everyone really need to leave Hue alone, he has done a pretty good job for us the last 2 years and as his first year as a head coach, u must have all forgot what our off use to look like!!!!! Give the man a chance, he was OK with one of the worst Def in the game and the most penities ever and we still had a chance. greatness takes time it does not happen over night and when it does it does not last!!! LOOK at the Bucs this year. We want a great team not a lucky season
January 6th, 2012 at 7:14 am
u must have all forgot what our off use to look like!!!!!
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Just because the 250 pound chick dropped 40 pounds, she is still fat.
It’s McKenzie’s call now, and while I will support him whichever way he goes, seems pretty obvious Hue must go.
January 6th, 2012 at 7:14 am
AGREE JFB.WILL BE INTERESTING 2 C HOW LONG B4 A “DECISION” ON HUE IS MADE ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.WILL WE GET A STATEMENT SUPPORTING HUE,OR ONE SAY’N HE HAS BEEN LET GO…
January 6th, 2012 at 7:16 am
Part of the defensive problems, OF ANY TEAM IN ANY SPORT, falls at the lap of the HC.
I mean if it were the opposite, and Hue built this “bully” and our run D was much more physical and our defense played discipline, tough football, Hue would get, AND DESERVEDLY SO, a ton of credit for it.
January 6th, 2012 at 7:17 am
I say he stay the #9 Off with no Dmac give the guy a break. and no Ford or Moore for most of the season. How bour a Co head coach as the DC like Jeff Fisher
January 6th, 2012 at 7:18 am
Finally… Welcome Reggie!!
I’m relieved this process wasn’t drug out all offseason. I’m ecstatic with this move!
The more i think about it, the more i think Hue will not be cool with this hire. I’m sure there will be backstabbing. Hue has a vision and so does Reggie.
Can you imagine if Hue’s beloved Palmer goes down like JC and Reggie comes to Hue with possible replacements?
I wouldn’t be surprised to see a new HC long before Hue’s contract is up.
January 6th, 2012 at 7:23 am
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
AGREE JFB.WILL BE INTERESTING 2 C HOW LONG B4 A “DECISION” ON HUE IS MADE ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.WILL WE GET A STATEMENT SUPPORTING HUE,OR ONE SAY’N HE HAS BEEN LET GO…
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I don’t like Hue. But realistically, I don’t see Reggie firing him right away if Hue shows a willingness to cooperate and accept reduced power.
I imagine they’ll put him on a short leash, force him to focus on just being a head coach. Let Saunders be the playcaller. Bring in whoever for the defense.
It will then all be on Hue to show if he’s really HC material or not.
January 6th, 2012 at 7:24 am
Just because the 250 pound chick dropped 40 pounds, she is still fat.
LOL, you always had a way with words JFB!
Anyways…I will wait to see what happens! If Reggie got full control, then I say let him decide the fate of this org…whether Hue stays or goes, I will support it!
January 6th, 2012 at 7:25 am
Hue’s head has officially lost 20 lbs
Now start cleaning house Reggie…starting with Slowlando McBozworth and demote Hue to OC and hire a REAL HC
January 6th, 2012 at 7:25 am
How bour a Co head coach as the DC like Jeff Fisher
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No more piecemealing a staff together.
We bring in a unit as a whole, a united staff.
We could hire Fisher, and after 6 weeks him and Hue are trading rights in the parking lot.
January 6th, 2012 at 7:28 am
If Reggie got full control, then I say let him decide the fate of this org…whether Hue stays or goes, I will support it!
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I am with you 110%.
I just have my beliefs which way Reggie should and will go. But he is the one who gets paid to do it, not me.
If Reggie decides to keep Hue, I will stand in line.
January 6th, 2012 at 7:30 am
By Jerry McDonald
Whether McKenzie will take over immediately is unclear. He can begin his duties with the Raiders only if the Packers agree, since he is currently under contract with Green Bay.
January 6th, 2012 at 7:30 am
I imagine they’ll put him on a short leash, force him to focus on just being a head coach. Let Saunders be the playcaller. Bring in whoever for the defense.
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From what I’ve seen from Hue so far, I don’t think he would accept that.
January 6th, 2012 at 7:32 am
I’m with you guys…. Let Reggie rebuild this organization… Let’s get back into this century …
January 6th, 2012 at 7:33 am
JUST DONT THINK MR. MCKENZIE CAN LET THE HEAD COACH THING DRAG OUT.MAKE A COMMAND DECISION AND STICK WITH HUE OR START THE INTERVIEW PROCESS ON A NEW GUY.
January 6th, 2012 at 7:35 am
Does anyone know if Reggie interviewed for any of the other GM jobs? If not and he just wanted to reunite with he Raiders, I think that is a great. Sick of guys who come here to get a paycheck. I want guys that want to be Raiders.
Great day Nation!!!
January 6th, 2012 at 7:36 am
192.DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 7:33 am
JUST DONT THINK MR. MCKENZIE CAN LET THE HEAD COACH THING DRAG OUT.MAKE A COMMAND DECISION AND STICK WITH HUE OR START THE INTERVIEW PROCESS ON A NEW GUY.
Agreed! For the first time in years…these process has taken forever and we are usually last in getting who/what we want! Now its time, to quote Al Davis…”to take what we want!”
January 6th, 2012 at 7:36 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 7:01 am
Let’s see where Reggie stands on Hue Jackson.
I vote for a massive overhaul, for the whole organization.
From the staff, down to the lower-level scouts.
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As long as they keep Calvin Branch on the scouting staff.
I swear I remember Jerry or Cork saying that Branch is one of the guys primarily responsible for uncovering some of these mid-round gems the Raiders have hit on recently.
January 6th, 2012 at 7:37 am
Freddie, I know that Chicago was interested in interviewing him, and that didn’t fall through…maybe because he wanted to come back!
January 6th, 2012 at 7:37 am
The first order of business for McKenzie will be a long heart to heart with Hue Jackson. I’d kill to be a fly on the wall for that conversation.
January 6th, 2012 at 7:37 am
Agreed SNBPA! I would love to be that fly!
January 6th, 2012 at 7:37 am
So who’s the first player to get traded for draft picks?
Rolando McClain,or Richard Seymour?
January 6th, 2012 at 7:38 am
196.SilverNBlackPA Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 7:37 am
The first order of business for McKenzie will be a long heart to heart with Hue Jackson. I’d kill to be a fly on the wall for that conversation.
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Me too. Talk about interesting.
January 6th, 2012 at 7:39 am
I will say this, he better make a decision soon before all the viable candidates get hired. Chuck B is as good as gone I guess, but his first order of business should be to make it official.
I would keep Hue as an OC,altough he probably wont stay, but maybe his play-calling was affected by all his other responsibilities like mismanaging games.
January 6th, 2012 at 7:41 am
Pretty Rick Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 7:37 am
So who’s the first player to get traded for draft picks?
Rolando McClain,or Richard Seymour?
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If the Raiders go to a 3-4, they’re keeping McClain.
I don’t think Seymour’s contract will make him attractive to many teams.
January 6th, 2012 at 7:41 am
Hue better bring his “A” game to the meeting. He’s not going to be able to BS McKenzie.
January 6th, 2012 at 7:43 am
So who’s the first player to get traded for draft picks?
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How bout a wildcard, and say Jacoby Ford?
Because of his contract, potential and age, he might have the highest trade value on the team.
January 6th, 2012 at 7:43 am
“SHUT UP HUE,LET ME SAY SOMETHING” THIS ABOUT 15 MINS INTO THE “HEART TO HEART”..
January 6th, 2012 at 7:44 am
205.DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 7:43 am
“SHUT UP HUE,LET ME SAY SOMETHING” THIS ABOUT 15 MINS INTO THE “HEART TO HEART”..
LMAO! That almost sounded like a MR. T convo with Captain Murdoch on the A Team!
January 6th, 2012 at 7:45 am
Seymour has ZERO trade value.
$15 million dollar salary, with $7.5 guaranteed.
I guess a team could trade for him and than restructure him, but all that would do would be lower his cap number and add more guaranteed money spread over a couple years.
He will be here next year, for one last go at it.
January 6th, 2012 at 7:45 am
What I would like to know is how much control will Reggie have…..does the HC report to him or to Mark…does he make all personnel decisions including the draft things like that. We all know GM’s have come and gone here, but everything went through AL’s desk. Will Mark be power hungry…we will soon find out.
January 6th, 2012 at 7:47 am
I agree JFB, if we are looking to get draft picks we wont get very far offering up Seymore, Kelly, Routt and the like. We would have to offer up our talent and I dont know that I want to do that. Rock and a hard place.
January 6th, 2012 at 7:51 am
FreddieB,
It’s not only about offering up talent, but cheap talent.
Obviously other teams would rather their teams have Seymour on 3rd and short than Desmond Bryant.
But when it comes to a trade, do you want Seymour with 1 year at $15 million, or Bryant at 400K?
Most teams would say, I won’t give you anything for Seymour, but I’ll give you a 6th for Bryant. Thus Bryant may have higher trade “value”.
That’s why I said Ford. Don’t think we should trade him, but he at least might be able to get us something of value.
January 6th, 2012 at 7:51 am
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/06/dont-be-shocked-if-hue-jackson-doesnt-last-in-oakland/
And here comes the speculation!
January 6th, 2012 at 7:51 am
FreddieB Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 7:47 am
I agree JFB, if we are looking to get draft picks we wont get very far offering up Seymore, Kelly, Routt and the like. We would have to offer up our talent and I dont know that I want to do that. Rock and a hard place
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It is a tough spot for McKenzie no doubt.
If it were me, I’d just try to pick up some more mid-round sleepers and see what comes of the young guys next season.
Other than a 1st or 2nd rounder, the Raiders have a full draft as of now for 2013, so it’s not like McKenzie would have to wait long.
January 6th, 2012 at 7:54 am
Ford is too big a playmaker on returns to let him go. Maybe some team is naive enough to trade for Wimbley,
January 6th, 2012 at 7:57 am
Looking at the Green Bay model in the draft, they drafted a ton of TE’s, mostly front 7 D at the top of their drafts, and rarely take a RB.
Great job grabbing high-quality WR’s in middle rounds (Jennings, Driver, Nelson), which we have done fairly well lately as well.
January 6th, 2012 at 7:57 am
Maybe some team is naive enough to trade for Wimbley,
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Not when he is getting paid more than Terrell Suggs (which he is).
January 6th, 2012 at 7:57 am
Will Mark be power hungry
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I don’t even know what the fuggin guy looks like! I don’t think he wants to do anything but sit back and watch people succesfully run this organization.
January 6th, 2012 at 7:59 am
Who cares who was hurt or wasn’t?
Raiders passed for over 400 yds against Diego.
Hardly any passing in the red zone.
they’d get to the 20, go to the run, kick a field goal.
Freaking stupid.
Settling for field goals is unnecessary when they can’t stop our passing game.
Throwing deep on 3rd and 2 in the 4th against Detroit. Stupid.
I like Hue but he has made some stupid decisions that cost the season.
He has to be more consistent.
Our defense was an almost-defense but our offense could score.
How many times did Hue call pass to get down the field, only to revert to the run and blow red zone opportunity?
Answer; all freaking season
Hopefully new GM hlds him accountable.
January 6th, 2012 at 8:00 am
JFB, I hear you and I think we agree. Too many old/marginal players with big contracts.
January 6th, 2012 at 8:01 am
No matter what happens with Hue, we will have some folks who will be dead wrong on here.
You got guys like Me, Seymour Bush, Rockstar, B and others hoping he gets fired yesterday.
You got guys like Alex7 saying he will get a contract extension. RMR saying whatever it is he was saying about how great Hue is, and that Herrera will be fired.
Shall be fun the next few weeks.
January 6th, 2012 at 8:01 am
morning Nation!! What a Great Day!! We are finally normal!
Welcome back Reggie!!
Next step meet with Hue and start targeting DC.
McKenzie is smart. He also knows we gave up 433 points and Hue and Carson are staying put!!
We going places now Nation!!
January 6th, 2012 at 8:01 am
I can’t see anything on this roster that hauls in anything higher than a 3rd. The best trades that can be made are player for player right now. Face it, our highest draft pick will be a compensatory pick!
January 6th, 2012 at 8:03 am
Got this from a poster on ESPN. Awesome:
Reggie will help the Raiders find their FRANCHISE QB. While Reggie was in GB he was vital in getting Matt Hasselbeck, Aaron Rodgers, and Matt Flynn. Not to mention that before Reggie was with the PACK, he was the assistant head coach at Tennessee (College) and was responsible for recruiting Peyton Manning.
January 6th, 2012 at 8:04 am
I hope this means that someone can finally put Chuck B out of his misery.
January 6th, 2012 at 8:04 am
Palmer finally sees the opportunity to become the nfl qb he always wanted to be.
He’s going to work hard in the off season.
So when Hue calls stupid running plays in the red zone he can audible them out. hue cant say sh@t if they score.
January 6th, 2012 at 8:04 am
I think a lot of people forgot that we have a couple of comp picks and that maybe all we need to plug the holes on defense,,mainly the DTs.
January 6th, 2012 at 8:04 am
Who needs a GM, we have hundreds of them posting on this blog!!
January 6th, 2012 at 8:05 am
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there are indications that Jackson wasn’t fully on board with the decision to hire McKenzie. Jackson, whom we believe reports directly to owner Mark Davis, has been publicly candid (perhaps too candid) in recent days regarding his desire for more control. It’s our understanding that, behind the scenes, Jackson has been even more candid
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January 6th, 2012 at 8:05 am
HELL,MCKENZIE MAY HAVE TO USE HUE’S OFFICE 4 NOW.NOT SURE THERE IS EVEN A GENERAL MANAGER’S OFFICE IN THE COMPLEX.DONT THINK THEY WILL GIVE HIM AL’S..
January 6th, 2012 at 8:06 am
BREAKING NEWS:
Raider Executive John Herrera is denying reports that the Raiders have hired Reggie McKenzie as their next GM saying “That simply is a false statement you damned smoke potters!”
Herrera went on to deny the allegations that Al Davis has passed away, that the Oakland Raiders are located in Oakland, that Reggie McKenzie is African American, that the sky is blue and that the sun is at the center of our solar system.
January 6th, 2012 at 8:06 am
No more drafts consisting of unproven corners & WR’s with 4.2 speed drafted in the first round, or slow linebackers from bama. No more Jamarcuses period.
January 6th, 2012 at 8:06 am
Pretty Rick,
We will only get one comp pick, the very first one pick #97.
We won’t get anything for Miller because we signed Boss, and Gallery? Really? Maybe we get a 6th round compensatory for him, but I doubt it.
January 6th, 2012 at 8:07 am
Dumass Norv knew to stick to passing game againt weak passing D.
Hue did the same thing.
Oh wait, only between the 20’s for Hue. We’ll just kick a field goal.
Again.
January 6th, 2012 at 8:09 am
227.GG Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 8:05 am
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there are indications that Jackson wasn’t fully on board with the decision to hire McKenzie. Jackson, whom we believe reports directly to owner Mark Davis, has been publicly candid (perhaps too candid) in recent days regarding his desire for more control. It’s our understanding that, behind the scenes, Jackson has been even more candid
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I caught that. I think Hue will suck up to Reggie now that he is the man just like he did to Al. Lets see what happens.
January 6th, 2012 at 8:09 am
weaselbit Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 8:07 am
Dumass Norv knew to stick to passing game againt weak passing D.
Hue did the same thing.
Oh wait, only between the 20’s for Hue. We’ll just kick a field goal.
Again.
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Might’ve been able to win a shootout with SD if he hadn’t done so.
The Chargers defense had absolutely no answer for Palmer, DHB, Moore and Murphy in that game. Conversely, they were holding Bush to 3.5 yards a carry.
So of course it made sense to stop throwing in the red zone.
How is Hue an offensive genius again?
January 6th, 2012 at 8:09 am
GG if tat is true than Hue must go! Can’t let a good thing be ruined! But, that is if that is true!
January 6th, 2012 at 8:11 am
Raiders 16th in league for red zone offense.
That is huge.
Gotta know how to mange the team in the red zone.
January 6th, 2012 at 8:14 am
So, has anyone put out an over/under on how long it’ll take PFT to start pushing “Gruden to return to Oakland” b.s. if McKenzie cans Hue? Florio’s favorite thing seems to be talking about how Gruden really wants to return to coaching, despite his endless repeated denials.
I’ll set it at 5 hours.
January 6th, 2012 at 8:14 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
From what I’ve seen from Hue so far, I don’t think he would accept that.
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I agree. And that’s why I hope that rather than fire Hue, they just make the job less appealing to him and he leaves on his own.
January 6th, 2012 at 8:15 am
I was the first to call Hue on the hot seat after the KC game. Just had a feeling.
January 6th, 2012 at 8:15 am
#239 especially to those at Football Futures who flamed me about it
January 6th, 2012 at 8:16 am
Weaselbit Says:
Raiders 16th in league for red zone offense.
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That perfectly explains being 16th in the league in scoring. That’s why I laugh at the guys here who call the Raiders a top 10 offense.
Yardage doesn’t mean sh!t if you can’t convert it into points. Points are the ultimate decider of an offense. Period.
January 6th, 2012 at 8:16 am
Seriously, when has an HC EVER accepted a “demotion”? Either you want Hue Jackson as your HC or you want him to be the OC on ANOTHER team, take your pick.
Me, I want Hue as head coach. I like what he did with the offense, I like the trick plays.
P.S. Sullivan 44 blows goats. I have proof.
January 6th, 2012 at 8:16 am
Reggie Mc Kenzie. lets go to work now!!!
January 6th, 2012 at 8:17 am
Hue is going to try to desperately sell McKenzie on the fact that it was all Bresnahan’s fault. (Much like some of the crew in here)
Not sure McKenzie is the type to fall for that though.
January 6th, 2012 at 8:18 am
I think Saunders will be on the same page as Mckenzie before Hue will be on board.
Hues’ ego was inflated to the size of Cali after Al passed. I just don’t see his vision and Reggies being on the same page. Hue wants control of bringing in his players and Reggies job is to evaluate and bring in talent as he sees fit for the team. How is Reggie going to release and sign players without pissing off Hue and his favorites?
Hue just needs to know his role if he wants to be head coach of the Oakland Raiders.
January 6th, 2012 at 8:19 am
#242 the Huelem Globetrotters? All the end-arounds?
The fake FGs/Punts are more Fassell and the guys on the field making the decision.
(btw, i love trick plays too, but i’ll take winning first)
January 6th, 2012 at 8:19 am
231 JFB,, if true then that should be used on the nastiest nose tackle available.
January 6th, 2012 at 8:19 am
POST-238,BOTTOM LINE IS STILL THE SAME.
January 6th, 2012 at 8:21 am
Deja vu Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 8:18 am
Hue wants control of bringing in his players and Reggies job is to evaluate and bring in talent as he sees fit for the team. How is Reggie going to release and sign players without pissing off Hue and his favorites?
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Very good point.
January 6th, 2012 at 8:22 am
Jhill,
Did you watch the Lakers game last night? What went through your head when Bynum pulled up lame on that half-ending shot?
Trade that m-fer to Orlando tomorrow is what should have gone through your head.
January 6th, 2012 at 8:23 am
The only *sadface* for me is what happens with Terrelle Pryor. I do like him, think he can have the ‘it’ factor like Newton. I’ll trust Reggie of course, just hope Reggie likes him too
January 6th, 2012 at 8:23 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 8:09 am
Might’ve been able to win a shootout with SD if he hadn’t done so.
The Chargers defense had absolutely no answer for Palmer, DHB, Moore and Murphy in that game. Conversely, they were holding Bush to 3.5 yards a carry.
So of course it made sense to stop throwing in the red zone.
How is Hue an offensive genius again?
Weasel:
This kind of thing drives me nuts.
People said Gruden was a genius. almost.
4th and 1 against New England in the snow for the game. Raiders averaged 5 yds a carry the whole game. 5 yards a carry! Nether NE nor Oakland could stop the other teams offense. 4th and 1, Gruden says punt, nip and tuck, New England scores we go home.
In an alternate universe Gruden calls run, we go on to win SB. Gruden stays on as coach and wins one more super bowl before handing down the team to a competent protege. So much good will is created that Raider blog has Secret Santa gift exchange.
January 6th, 2012 at 8:24 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 8:14 am
So, has anyone put out an over/under on how long it’ll take PFT to start pushing “Gruden to return to Oakland” b.s. if McKenzie cans Hue? Florio’s favorite thing seems to be talking about how Gruden really wants to return to coaching, despite his endless repeated denials.
I’ll set it at 5 hours.
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Florio’s job is to keep the emails and twitter comments going…he also tried to lure Gruden or his supporters out of hiding when he ran the critiques that Shawn King (scrub QB) and Mike Peirrera (Referee official) said about “blowhard Gruden”.
I would also say that Jackson should keep a low profile for the next couple of days…especially any, I’m completely cool with Reggie McKenzie smack. Will be a tense month or so for Jackson.
January 6th, 2012 at 8:25 am
This kind of thing drives me nuts.
People said Gruden was a genius. almost.
4th and 1 against New England in the snow for the game. Raiders averaged 5 yds a carry the whole game. 5 yards a carry! Nether NE nor Oakland could stop the other teams offense. 4th and 1, Gruden says punt, nip and tuck, New England scores we go home.
In an alternate universe Gruden calls run, we go on to win SB. Gruden stays on as coach and wins one more super bowl before handing down the team to a competent protege. So much good will is created that Raider blog has Secret Santa gift exchange.
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LOL at the last sentence.
Good points, by the way. I remember thinking it was going to come back to bite us.
January 6th, 2012 at 8:29 am
Hopefully Reggie gets near complete control of the team and Hue’s contract is amended, or he hits the road. The last thing we need is internal strife that can sink the ship. I also hope Amy Trask is still involved, but that the GM does not have to answer to her.
I would also love to see Herrera disappear into the background.
January 6th, 2012 at 8:30 am
RaiderSam Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 8:24 am
I would also say that Jackson should keep a low profile for the next couple of days
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haha, think of the movie Catch-22, and Major Major putting on disguises, etc.
Hue to secretary: When I’m not in my office, and Reggie comes around or calls, tell him I’m here and to wait for me, then let him in. But when I’m in my office, tell him I’m not here and to arrange a time to see me.
Secretary to Hue: But when he does make an appointment to see you, will you be here?
Hue to secretary: No. Look, when I’m here I’m not here. But when I’m not here I am here. Ok?
January 6th, 2012 at 8:30 am
Too bad we have to wait 16 months to see how Reggie will do in an NFL draft.
January 6th, 2012 at 8:32 am
Rise and Shine Nation great way to start off the weekend with such news about the hiring of McKenzie.. Raiders are on the Rise …Haterz just suck it up
January 6th, 2012 at 8:37 am
Reggie must deal Dmac!
Must!
January 6th, 2012 at 8:37 am
I saw the Houston game where the coach decided to go for 2 and either win or lose. One of those that makes you look like a genius if it works. Then Houston gets a 5 yard penalty. So you’d think, okay, you have to kick it and settle this in OT? No brainer. But…….Coach says go for it and the center hikes it over the QB’s head.
Consider that if they had won they would have went to the playoffs.
You have to hold EVERYONE accountable.
Hue didn’t show genius.
Watching the 2nd half adjustments Belichek makes against opposing teams: genius. Patriots lose Defensive luster so Belicheck goes to relying on his passing offense to outscore opponents while the defense rebuilds. Coach has to make adjustments based on the teams strengths. Hue got some right, but often did not see the big picture.
January 6th, 2012 at 8:38 am
Hey Dakota,
Dmac = Zambrano
Spoiled quitters
January 6th, 2012 at 8:40 am
Pretty geeked about the McKenzie hiring.
Much blood and glory ahead!
January 6th, 2012 at 8:40 am
Only reason Houston went for 2 was because they had nothing to play for, and didn’t want to go to OT and risk any injuries.
They were the #3 seed, whether they won or lost
January 6th, 2012 at 8:40 am
So Reggie reports directly to Mr. Southwick?
January 6th, 2012 at 8:44 am
The whole organization is going to change. If he gets it right we’ll be set for years.
January 6th, 2012 at 8:44 am
Well, if Reggie McKenzie is half the talent guru everyone seems to think that he is, about two thirds of this defense will be hitting the bricks pretty soon. We really don’t have too many guys that we can trade for high draft picks, but we might be able to get some mid rounders for some of these guys. I also think he puts a franchise tag on Michael Bush. He would be an idiot not to.
January 6th, 2012 at 8:45 am
Mark my words…
whomever we hire as a DC will go a long way in telling all of us what McKenzie feels about Hue.
If the DC is strictly a great DC (ie: Nolan or Moss, or the guy from the Jets)…then it means McKenzie feels that Hue is HC material.
If the guy is a great DC, but he has HC ability (ie Fisher) then it tells us Hue could be replaced at any moment next season.
While I am a Hue supporter, I know he isnt a polished/finished product. Al was grooming him and the mentor is no longer here. That is the biggest obstacle Hue must face. Whether McKenzie has the ability or the patience to continue to develop Hue as a HC remains to be seen.
January 6th, 2012 at 8:47 am
No matter what happens with Hue, we will have some folks who will be dead wrong on here.
You got guys like Me, Seymour Bush, Rockstar, B and others hoping he gets fired yesterday.
You got guys like Alex7 saying he will get a contract extension. RMR saying whatever it is he was saying about how great Hue is, and that Herrera will be fired.
Shall be fun the next few weeks.
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JFB,
I’m pretty sure Dakota & Plunk join our party.
Marley, Chris, Ole, Armchair, Debo & others join Alex7’s group of “soon to be wrongs”
January 6th, 2012 at 8:47 am
Good Points Riff!
January 6th, 2012 at 8:49 am
This is the most positive thing that the Raiders have done since the Gruden Hire…Mckenzie will definitely continue to build this thing up even with not having the draft picks that were squandered in the Palmer deal, because even given a full training camp with all of our horses back and not injured, I am one that does not think that Palmer will have what it takes to get us the Lombardi. He can get us to the playoffs, but not the Lombardi. Mckenzie will see this,if he already hasn’t.
January 6th, 2012 at 8:49 am
So after the presser, I’m expecting news being broke that we’re requesting permission to speak with some of the best defensive minds in football.
Perfect ‘if you can’t beat em, have em join you’ scenario: Mike Nolan.
January 6th, 2012 at 8:50 am
270.ddwight Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 8:49 am
This is the most positive thing that the Raiders have done since the Gruden Hire…Mckenzie will definitely continue to build this thing up even with not having the draft picks that were squandered in the Palmer deal, because even given a full training camp with all of our horses back and not injured, I am one that does not think that Palmer will have what it takes to get us the Lombardi. He can get us to the playoffs, but not the Lombardi. Mckenzie will see this,if he already hasn’t.
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And Hue’s gotta have his thing together or he will be gone as well!!!
January 6th, 2012 at 8:52 am
This is a positive move. It will take 3 – 4 years to feel the effect. and probably 7 – 10 years before the long term effect of this move takes place. The latter will be the result of coaching stability, assuming the correct coach’s are in place. I do not think that purging the shoddy players and inserting real players is going to be an issue.
January 6th, 2012 at 8:53 am
Deja vu Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 8:18 am
Hue wants control of bringing in his players and Reggies job is to evaluate and bring in talent as he sees fit for the team. How is Reggie going to release and sign players without pissing off Hue and his favorites?
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Reggie McKenzie comes from a quality, winning organization that he was instrumental in building. Hue has no pedigree at all relative to that.
The way I see it, he and Hue will communicate about these things, and Hue will have his input. In the end though, Hue can either go with the program or step off the ship. Reggie’s in charge, or he wouldn’t be coming here.
January 6th, 2012 at 8:53 am
Raider Riff Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 8:45 am
Mark my words…
whomever we hire as a DC will go a long way in telling all of us what McKenzie feels about Hue.
If the DC is strictly a great DC (ie: Nolan or Moss, or the guy from the Jets)…then it means McKenzie feels that Hue is HC material.
If the guy is a great DC, but he has HC ability (ie Fisher) then it tells us Hue could be replaced at any moment next season.
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I’m wondering will McKenzie just cut his losses and go with Philbin as his choice at head coach (then have Philbin bring in his choice for DC)
there are nearly 18 free agents, so they could bring in some people to fit Trgovac or Moss (D-coordinator) choice…that way McKenzie has a head start in the draft getting people that fit what he already knows.
Whole lot of highly paid, but inconsistent personnel on the roster…a lot to clean up, but they have to get the “drama magnets” out.
January 6th, 2012 at 8:57 am
Reggie McKenzie comes from a quality, winning organization that he was instrumental in building. Hue has no pedigree at all relative to that.
The way I see it, he and Hue will communicate about these things, and Hue will have his input. In the end though, Hue can either go with the program or step off the ship. Reggie’s in charge, or he wouldn’t be coming here.
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Yeah, Jackson was tied to the Ravens (but they were primarily a defensive team, that did ball control and passed deep – and was QB’s coach, not the coordinator. He just made rookie mistakes, but went into the media too much. On the other hand, this is McKenzie’s first go around following the death of a controversial-like tycoon of an owner. He will want the best results possible…does he risk a legacy he has yet to build on Hue Jackson’s play calling?
January 6th, 2012 at 8:57 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
Only reason Houston went for 2 was because they had nothing to play for, and didn’t want to go to OT and risk any injuries.
They were the #3 seed, whether they won or lost
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Correct. I’m not sure why this has been so difficult for some to understand.
January 6th, 2012 at 8:58 am
cool now he can fire hue…and sit dmac
January 6th, 2012 at 8:58 am
http://www.profootballweekly.com/2012/01/05/reports-raiders-to-let-coaches-go-on-jan-15
Heh – that’s what you get for sukking so bad
January 6th, 2012 at 9:00 am
So when does Reggie fire the hairy footed hobbit, Huebo
January 6th, 2012 at 9:03 am
its a great day to be a Raider fan.
January 6th, 2012 at 9:05 am
Oh happy days…A real QB…Possibly the best talent evaluating GM in the league…We’re back baby! The scholarship era is officially over. Start printing the bus tickets!
January 6th, 2012 at 9:07 am
First order of business on the personnel side is to cut Kelly to prove a point. That piece of garbage has been around for far too long. Every year we’ve had him we rank near the bottom of the league in stopping the run. Coincidence?? Not when stopping the run starts up front.
January 6th, 2012 at 9:08 am
Raider Riff Says:
Mark my words…
whomever we hire as a DC will go a long way in telling all of us what McKenzie feels about Hue.
If the DC is strictly a great DC (ie: Nolan or Moss, or the guy from the Jets)…then it means McKenzie feels that Hue is HC material.
If the guy is a great DC, but he has HC ability (ie Fisher) then it tells us Hue could be replaced at any moment next season.
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Raider Sam says:
I’m wondering will McKenzie just cut his losses and go with Philbin as his choice at head coach (then have Philbin bring in his choice for DC)
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That would be the boldest of moves. And would say that McKenzie has no faith in Hue as a HC. And that he believes he can replace Hue the play caller. Despite what the Hue-haters say, all of us are aware that Hue is one of the BEST in-game play callers in the game.
I hate the idea of giving that sort of advantage up.
I also hate the idea of tearing up our offensive system. Its too much instability for such a young offense. We’re not far away from elite on the offensive side of the ball. But if McKenzie feels that he wants to go another direction with HC (and offensive system by default) then it means you can pretty much toss our QB and WR’s in the can as well. It means full start over.
I just dont see McKenzie doing that. But he’s the expert. Im just a fan.
January 6th, 2012 at 9:08 am
dbaz09 Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 12:35 am
Mark and Amy need to continue moving in the right direction by cleaning up the disfunction in the front office and that should start with removing John Herrera. His confrontation with Kawakami, sophomoric comments about Gannon and generally juvenile behavior when dealing with the media were outright embarrassments. The legend of Al Davis should live-on without his court jester reminding us his sad final years.
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I agree with this completely. This guy is a clown and actually is the worst “PR” guy that I know.
Really I think hurts the organization more than he could possibly help it.
January 6th, 2012 at 9:08 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 5th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
I looked at the teams Gio played with before, Indy, NO and the Packers, and thought, hey he must have played in some playoff games. Maybe help the “veteran presense” argument.
Nope. He played in one postseason game.
The final score was 51-45, lol.
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CLASSIC. lol..
But he tries hard. And he’s “tough”. A “savvy vet”
Mornin boys.
January 6th, 2012 at 9:09 am
On the DC, there are some good ones out there available if we act quickly.
January 6th, 2012 at 9:09 am
I also think that, out of respect for Al and his eye for coaching talent, the McKenzie gives Hue a shot this year. But if we regress it’ll be bye bye baldy.
January 6th, 2012 at 9:09 am
Some of these players need to look in the mirror and ask themselves if they lived up to their contract. Especially on the D.
Now i know it’s highly unlikely and most will take the high road like Russell did and say they played well and earned every cent.
Wrong! Some serious restructering of contracts need to take place.
January 6th, 2012 at 9:09 am
#283: Funny but I was just thinking the same thing. Kelly seems to talk a better game than he plays. Romac and Routt are two other high paid players who better pull their socks up big time.
January 6th, 2012 at 9:10 am
So the 3-4 switch should be around the corner..
Just a matter of who Reggie can get as our DC.
January 6th, 2012 at 9:12 am
Nolan would be my first choice as DC. The man builds nasty attacking defenses. He’d probably want a lot of moolah though.
January 6th, 2012 at 9:15 am
McKenzie is gonna come in and say that we have a good team and with a few changes we can get to the SB.
He’ll make changes where necessary-on the defense mostly.
He’d look like a fool to “blow up” a team that was one defensive stop from winning their division.
January 6th, 2012 at 9:15 am
Once again our fearless inside “journalists,” nowhere around to break this story, it’s BSPN Adam Sh1thead that beats Corky and JMac, what’s up with that, asleep at the iPhone.
First order of business: CLEAN HOUSE.
Starting with HueSux, Palmer, Seymour etc. etc….
January 6th, 2012 at 9:15 am
Hue is going to try to desperately sell McKenzie on the fact that it was all Bresnahan’s fault. (Much like some of the crew in here)
Not sure McKenzie is the type to fall for that though.
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PA = semi pro blogger!
January 6th, 2012 at 9:16 am
#285: Hows about we put Herrera and Kawakami in a shipping crate together and send them to Donkville?
January 6th, 2012 at 9:17 am
Well, it’s noon somewhere! Cheers Reggie McKenzie & Raider Nation!
January 6th, 2012 at 9:17 am
CanuckRaider Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 9:09 am
#283: Funny but I was just thinking the same thing. Kelly seems to talk a better game than he plays. Romac and Routt are two other high paid players who better pull their socks up big time.
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I’m willing to give RoMac a pass since Bres was a UFL caliber coach and Biekert had never coached before and he’s only 22 and was highly regarded throughout the leage when we drafted him. I’ve never ever liked Routt, he’s just not a guy you can rely on. No idea why Al wanted him instead of Nnamdi. Kelly has just ALWAYS rubbed me the wrong way. Totally undisciplined. Always jumping offsides becasue all he cares about is sacks. You have to earn the right to rush the passer.
January 6th, 2012 at 9:18 am
CanuckRaider Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 9:12 am
Nolan would be my first choice as DC. The man builds nasty attacking defenses. He’d probably want a lot of moolah though.
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I agree. With Manusky as LB coach.
January 6th, 2012 at 9:18 am
Further to #296: We could toss in MR as a bonus…A real menage a twat.
January 6th, 2012 at 9:18 am
respect for al would be firing hue
January 6th, 2012 at 9:19 am
I’m wondering will McKenzie just cut his losses and go with Philbin as his choice at head coach (then have Philbin bring in his choice for DC)
there are nearly 18 free agents, so they could bring in some people to fit Trgovac or Moss (D-coordinator) choice…that way McKenzie has a head start in the draft getting people that fit what he already knows.
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Sam,
I wouldn’t be opposed to that!
January 6th, 2012 at 9:21 am
#298: Agreed…A possible switch to the 3-4 could be just the thing to get Romac going too. Why Al signed Routt for big money instead of keeping Aso is beyond me.
January 6th, 2012 at 9:21 am
DD,
Nolan and/or Manusky would insist upon keeping Giordano.
Are you sure you’re ok with this ???
January 6th, 2012 at 9:21 am
301.
Al wouldnt have fired him so how is firing him repsect for Al?
January 6th, 2012 at 9:23 am
Al gave Lame Kiffin and all his childish BS the start of a 2nd year until Lame just got out of hand disrespectful. So there’s no way you can convince me that Al would’ve fired Hue. It would set our offense back. Why do you want to do that when the DEFENSE was the problem?
January 6th, 2012 at 9:24 am
It’s our understanding that, behind the scenes, Jackson has been even more candid, and that the arrival of McKenzie could — not will but could — result in Jackson being one and done in Oakland.
Would it be shocking? Yes. But not much more shocking than last year’s decision to part ways with Tom Cable after a far less expected 8-8 season.
-PFT
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Tom Cable or Rob Ryan back in Oakland?
both have a better shot at “building a bully” than the guy with pretty fingernails & toenails imo
January 6th, 2012 at 9:24 am
Interesting that McKenzie’s coming on this fast. No way he had time to meet with Hue, which probably means that Mark Davis didn’t ask Hue’s opinion.
Hue’s either gonna be shown the door, or told in no uncertain terms that he now reports to McKenzie.
Hue had his chance to run the team. The results? Another 8-8 record with an undisciplined team.
Do I like Hue? Yes. Do I think he needs a GM to reign him in? YES.
January 6th, 2012 at 9:25 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 9:21 am
DD,
Nolan and/or Manusky would insist upon keeping Giordano.
Are you sure you’re ok with this ???
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LOL!
Oh my God. Please. No.
Is it cause he’s white too?? Cant be anything to with football.
January 6th, 2012 at 9:26 am
Raider Nation-Station
BREAKING: 01-06-12: MCKENZIE TO MANAGE RAIDERS
Its all but a done deal and the best move Oakland has made in a decade…
http://www.raidernationstation.com/raider_war_room
January 6th, 2012 at 9:26 am
308.
Agreed.
January 6th, 2012 at 9:27 am
you think al wouldnt have fired hue? wt? hue freaking ended the season on a losing streak, called stupid plays all year, couldnt clock manage, horrible personell ideas, and is 8-8. Al woulda opened the door with his shiny head….
January 6th, 2012 at 9:27 am
308. Hue did a remarkable job but like Cable, wore too many hats from day one. He needs a GM and this guy sounds like a pretty good one…
January 6th, 2012 at 9:27 am
McKenzie won’t have a lot of options this year regarding personnel.
The team that he and his new HC will field next year won’t be anything close to what they want.
January 6th, 2012 at 9:27 am
#308: You’re reading too much into this. Hiring a GM is always the owner’s business. Gms are above HCs in the food chain.
January 6th, 2012 at 9:28 am
303.CanuckRaider Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 9:21 am
#298: Agreed…A possible switch to the 3-4 could be just the thing to get Romac going too. Why Al signed Routt for big money instead of keeping Aso is beyond me.
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Al constantly overpaid for players. The past 5 years were reminiscent of when Snyder bought the skins.
Just this year alone he looked like he was trying to go broke with the money he gave to Routt, Wimbley, Eugene, Loper and I can’t remember who else he grossly overpaid but I’m sure there are more.
January 6th, 2012 at 9:28 am
there’s no way you can convince me that Al would’ve fired Hue. It would set our offense back. Why do you want to do that when the DEFENSE was the problem?
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Hump,
why does Hue Jax absorb no responsibility for the Defense and get all the credit for the offense?
doesn’t the HEAD COACH oversee the entire team?
January 6th, 2012 at 9:30 am
hue is the head coach its his responsablity to get his team to play
January 6th, 2012 at 9:30 am
#316: No lie. Kelly is another glaring example. Al made him the highest paid DT in football at the time.
January 6th, 2012 at 9:30 am
Don’t be shocked if Hue Jackson doesn’t last in Oakland
Posted by Mike Florio on January 6, 2012, 9:48 AM EST
Hue Jackson AP
There’s a strange dynamic unfolding right now in Oakland, which probably shouldn’t come as much of a surprise to anyone who has followed the NFL for the last decade. And there’s a theory making the rounds in league circles that the arrival of Reggie McKenzie as the team’s next General Manager could lead to the departure of coach Hue Jackson.
Even though both men are represented by Kennard McGuire, there are indications that Jackson wasn’t fully on board with the decision to hire McKenzie. Jackson, whom we believe reports directly to owner Mark Davis, has been publicly candid (perhaps too candid) in recent days regarding his desire for more control. It’s our understanding that, behind the scenes, Jackson has been even more candid, and that the arrival of McKenzie could — not will but could — result in Jackson being one and done in Oakland.
Would it be shocking? Yes. But not much more shocking than last year’s decision to part ways with Tom Cable after a far less expected 8-8 season.
Every G.M. wants to hire his own coach. Even if the G.M. says as he walks through the door that he’s fine with the head coach who is in place, every G.M. wants to hire his own coach. With Jackson seeming in recent days like a bit of a loose cannon when it comes to the management of the team, McKenzie could have some real misgivings about moving forward with Jackson.
The fact that McGuire represents both men will influence the situation, but that will go only so far. At some point, McKenzie will have to make what he believes to be the right decision/recommendation for the franchise, even if it means potentially alienating his own agent by firing one of his agent’s other clients.
At this point, we’re not reporting that Jackson is on his way out or predicting that he’s not long for the job. What we do know is that folks inside the league are keeping an eye on Oakland, because there’s a sense that McKenzie and Jackson possibly won’t be able to coexist.
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Seems like Hue has not been making friends in the Raiders organization lately.
Going to the press after a late season collapse to condemn your players is not smart for a rookie coach. Especially when it can be perceived as a temper tantrum by some of the players and others around the league.
Then he makes a case for more power to the press and comes off like an egomaniac.
Would not be surprised if Hue is a lame duck coach next season as McKenzie looks for His guy to lead this team.
Hue better make the playoffs next year, if he even makes to next year as the HC.
January 6th, 2012 at 9:30 am
CanuckRaider Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 9:21 am
#298: Agreed…A possible switch to the 3-4 could be just the thing to get Romac going too. Why Al signed Routt for big money instead of keeping Aso is beyond me.
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Nnamdi wanted too much money, shut down a 1/3 of the field and we still never went to the playoffs with him
January 6th, 2012 at 9:31 am
Philbin?
No way we want a retired TV show host coaching this defense.
(wanted to be the first to throw that lame joke out there).
January 6th, 2012 at 9:31 am
I think Chuck B’s defense was good enough to take us to the playoffs if Seymour, Henderson, CJ37 & Huff weren’t injured. McClain didn’t have the legal distractions. CJ37 didn’t have the family crisis. ShoNasty & Chekwa on I.R.
it’s not like Chuck B inherited a good run defense and it tanked under him. it’s been awful from 2004-2010 when he had nothing to do with it!
did we really expect to pitch the #1 CB in the NFL and not drop a bit in pass defense? especially with a rookie 3rd rounder (DVD) and a guy off the street (Sheppard) filling in ???
Chuck gets just as many excuses as Hue. None !!!
January 6th, 2012 at 9:31 am
316,
Sure he’s responsible for the entire team, but he was brought here to run the offense with Al basically running the defense through Bres. When Al died Bres had no leadership and Hue was a rookie HC going through something NO ONE IN LEAGUE HISTORY HAS BEEN THROUGH. Also Hue called the plays on offense. Did he call the plays on defense??? NO. So yeah, he gets absolved of some of the problems on D for ONE YEAR. If he sucks it up next year, clean house. But to fire him for being mediocre in an unprecedented situation is extremely short sighted.
January 6th, 2012 at 9:32 am
Hey, but Hue signed Giordano.. That should buy him a contract extension right?..
January 6th, 2012 at 9:33 am
#320: Actually, Aso might have signed for not much more than we gave Mr. 17 penalties. Guess it all hinged on whether Aso wanted to stay.
January 6th, 2012 at 9:33 am
316. Crabtree is only one small example of how Daivs’ brilliant business decisions affected teams before we even played them.
Many teams struggled to make contracts because of Al. Him “grossly over paying” was another sign of Al simply being ahead of the curve and as you mentioned, he wasn’t the only one who over paid.
Haynseworth anyone?
January 6th, 2012 at 9:36 am
323. Massive injuries to the secondary from day one on hampered this D.
HUe deserves another chance and despite speculation by pozsters on here, Jerry Mac says Mark and Amy have Hues back
January 6th, 2012 at 9:36 am
CanuckRaider Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 9:27 am
#308: You’re reading too much into this. Hiring a GM is always the owner’s business. Gms are above HCs in the food chain.
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If Hue were still in favor, he would have either sat in on the interview or at least been consulted. The fact that he didn’t means that Mark Davis doesn’t care what Hue thinks.
Hue’s being publicly smacked down. If he doesn’t like it, the door’s over there.
January 6th, 2012 at 9:36 am
#327: Snyder always has been a fool. The Fat Albert signing is a finalist for worst joke in league history.
January 6th, 2012 at 9:38 am
Quick question for all you Hue bashers…..Who had been our defensive coordinator for the last 20 years. The coach that carries the DC title, or Al Davis???
I’ll wait…….
January 6th, 2012 at 9:38 am
Mark just hired the best GM candidate out there on the advice of the best GM the Raiders ever had. He’s properly setting the chain of command, nothing more.
January 6th, 2012 at 9:39 am
Also, how many head coaches only got 1 year under Al before they were fired, and what was their record??
January 6th, 2012 at 9:40 am
It’s ridiculous to dismiss certain players becuz of their color. Such as thinking black qb’s can’t play etc. or white guys can’t play certain positions
I don’t care what color a player/coach or gm is, but the Packers and Pats seem to be doing ok with their ‘diversity’.
Welker does ok as a receiver. Woodhead has done well.
And the Packers? I’d take Jordy Nelson in a second or AJ Hawk and Clay Mathews on D.
Also, Cam Newton seems to be doing good at QB.
May be it’s time to re-think some of our perceptions.
January 6th, 2012 at 9:40 am
“doesn’t the HEAD COACH oversee the entire team?”
ding ding correct answer RRS!
January 6th, 2012 at 9:40 am
#333: Hue should get another year for sure…Especially considering what he initially came into.
January 6th, 2012 at 9:41 am
Forrest Hump Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 9:38 am
Quick question for all you Hue bashers…..Who had been our defensive coordinator for the last 20 years. The coach that carries the DC title, or Al Davis???
I’ll wait…….
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It was pretty much Davis. Our ostensible DC’s were all running Al’s defense: A base 4-3 (or sometimes 3-4) alignment with straight man coverage, and very little zones or blitzing.
DC’s were supposedly free to blitz or run zones, but if they did and it didn’t work, Al would call down to the sidelines and start yelling at them. No respectable DC would come work under those conditions.
January 6th, 2012 at 9:41 am
Jerry Mac says Mark and Amy have Hues back
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Ole,
gotta link?
January 6th, 2012 at 9:43 am
Any serious DC candidate would be thrilled to come here now. When your on the bottom, there’s no where to go but UP!
They come here and turn this Defense around, they would be considered a freakin’ superman!
January 6th, 2012 at 9:43 am
336.
Exactly right. So when the DC DIES IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SEASON, AND OUR HC HAS NOT REALLY EVER BEEN KNOWN AS A DEFENSIVE GUY, HOW DO YOU EXPECT THAT HC TO HOLD THE DEFENSE TOGETHER?? (especially considering that theyd already showed us who they really were in Buffalo)
All you people blaming the defense on Hue are just clueless and should probably be paying more attention in school instead of reading this blog.
January 6th, 2012 at 9:43 am
Mckenzies gonna give Hue the oppotunity to get the ship on course all the way. Srongly doubt if he fires him, plus given Hue the benefit-of-a-doubt, he was a rookie HC, that has some upside to him.
January 6th, 2012 at 9:44 am
Forrest Hump Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 9:31 am
316,
Sure he’s responsible for the entire team, but he was brought here to run the offense with Al basically running the defense through Bres. When Al died Bres had no leadership and Hue was a rookie HC going through something NO ONE IN LEAGUE HISTORY HAS BEEN THROUGH. Also Hue called the plays on offense. Did he call the plays on defense??? NO. So yeah, he gets absolved of some of the problems on D for ONE YEAR. If he sucks it up next year, clean house. But to fire him for being mediocre in an unprecedented situation is extremely short sighted.
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That doesn’t excuse the lack of motivation and all the dicsipline (or lack of) penalties. He needs to do a better job with that.
January 6th, 2012 at 9:44 am
Raiderbuck Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 9:43 am
Any serious DC candidate would be thrilled to come here now. When your on the bottom, there’s no where to go but UP!
They come here and turn this Defense around, they would be considered a freakin’ superman!
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Exactly. This is why $$$ won’t matter much to Nolan or Del Rio. Each knows that if he comes here and builds a defensive powerhouse, another HC job is only a year or two away.
January 6th, 2012 at 9:46 am
You Hue Bashers are all clueless and no nothing about the NFL!
January 6th, 2012 at 9:46 am
Look what the Bears are doin. They fired the GM, promised Lovie the HC job, promoted Mike Tice from OL coach to OC, they look very “Al Davis” Raider like.
To Hue or not to Hue, Reggie will make the right choice.
January 6th, 2012 at 9:46 am
If Hue did’nt say how disappointed he was with the defensive unit alot of guys would be saying that he coddles the players too much and we need a “strong hand” for a change in Oakland that will hold players accountable.
Now that he does hold guys accountable, he’s not doing the right thing.
What would have been the right way to for Hue to handle that last presser? By saying he loves those guys and they laid it all out on the field and “we just came up a little short”? Bullcrap! He told it like it is.
Nice to hear for a change.
January 6th, 2012 at 9:46 am
I for one hope it’s Delrio. Hometown boy and knows how to play and run a D
January 6th, 2012 at 9:48 am
Jesusraiderjim Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 9:44 am
Forrest Hump Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 9:31 am
316,
Sure he’s responsible for the entire team, but he was brought here to run the offense with Al basically running the defense through Bres. When Al died Bres had no leadership and Hue was a rookie HC going through something NO ONE IN LEAGUE HISTORY HAS BEEN THROUGH. Also Hue called the plays on offense. Did he call the plays on defense??? NO. So yeah, he gets absolved of some of the problems on D for ONE YEAR. If he sucks it up next year, clean house. But to fire him for being mediocre in an unprecedented situation is extremely short sighted.
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That doesn’t excuse the lack of motivation and all the dicsipline (or lack of) penalties. He needs to do a better job with that.
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Absolutely agree. However there are players that NO ONE has been able to properly motivate (Tommy Kelly, Routt, and Huff come to mind) and with all the uncertainty about who was really running the show I understand that may have been tough. Now that the organization has a positive direction to it, Hue must put up or shut up.
January 6th, 2012 at 9:49 am
I think Hue just wanted the ‘NATION’ to know he wasn’t ok for them choking away the division.
Hue loves the fans and feels bad the team let everyone down.
I’d mucher rather hear what Hue said than lame old, worn out cliches about “getting better” etc.
January 6th, 2012 at 9:49 am
So the Raiders new GM is from Green Bay.
Flynn, the backup QB in Green Bay is a Free Agent.
Interesting.
January 6th, 2012 at 9:49 am
#346 You are correct sir. He just told the truth. If they didn’t suck and left it all on the field that woulda been a different story!
January 6th, 2012 at 9:51 am
Yeah, you guys “no nothing about the NFL”
Really?
Really?
Public education is such a waste.
January 6th, 2012 at 9:52 am
“All you people blaming the defense on Hue are just clueless and should probably be paying more attention in school instead of reading this blog”
Let me explain something to you in case you are not bright enough to get it on your own.
Sloppy tackling, gap assignments, the ability to shed blocks are all fundamentals that are taught since Pop Warner through high school and beyond. It is the HC responsibility to make sure these basic fundamentals are addressed in camp and throughout the season. I don’t care if you are an offensive or defensive minded HC you would still understand basic fundamentals like the ones I just mentioned and its your job as a HC to make sure your players work on these things in camp practice and game preparation.
Sure Hue may not be well versed in defensive schemes but you better bet he understands fundamental football and it is his responsibility to make sure everyone on this team is working on those basic fundamentals.
January 6th, 2012 at 9:53 am
Yes sir!! We got us a real GM. Taking the sting away from Sunday…
January 6th, 2012 at 9:54 am
Why do people keep throwing Flynn around like we need another QB?? What exactly has Flynn won in this league?!?
Bottom line…let Hue worry about the offense. A freak year of injuries shouldnt happen again. REVAMP THE D!!
January 6th, 2012 at 9:55 am
BREAKING: 01-06-12: MCKENZIE TO MANAGE RAIDERS
Its all but a done deal and the best move Oakland has made in a decade…
http://www.raidernationstation.com/raider_war_room
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I say we give Hue another season. Pretty sure McKenzie is gonna start rolling tape on our current guys and evaluating whos a football player and whos collecting checks.
Good news that the Al Davis scholarship program will likely be severely truncated
January 6th, 2012 at 9:57 am
Wasbanned Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 9:49 am
So the Raiders new GM is from Green Bay.
Flynn, the backup QB in Green Bay is a Free Agent.
Interesting.
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Careful, KC and Pioli was probably thinking the same thing
when they got Matt Cassel. And we don’t have a receiver that is
the caliber of Dwayne Bowe here. Greg Jennings, Donald Driver can make
a lot of QB’s look good.
January 6th, 2012 at 9:57 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 9:52 am
“All you people blaming the defense on Hue are just clueless and should probably be paying more attention in school instead of reading this blog”
Let me explain something to you in case you are not bright enough to get it on your own.
Sloppy tackling, gap assignments, the ability to shed blocks are all fundamentals that are taught since Pop Warner through high school and beyond. It is the HC responsibility to make sure these basic fundamentals are addressed in camp and throughout the season. I don’t care if you are an offensive or defensive minded HC you would still understand basic fundamentals like the ones I just mentioned and its your job as a HC to make sure your players work on these things in camp practice and game preparation.
Sure Hue may not be well versed in defensive schemes but you better bet he understands fundamental football and it is his responsibility to make sure everyone on this team is working on those basic fundamentals.
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I agree. However at some point it is the PLAYERS job to make plays.
January 6th, 2012 at 9:58 am
346. If he stays Hue will learn what Al always knew, you can never please any of em’.
Half are gonna get it, half are gonna be clueless.
Half love, half hate, all watch
January 6th, 2012 at 9:59 am
355.ElkGRaider Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 9:54 am
Why do people keep throwing Flynn around like we need another QB?? What exactly has Flynn won in this league?!?
Bottom line…let Hue worry about the offense. A freak year of injuries shouldnt happen again. REVAMP THE D!!
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Because we do need another QB. And D-Coor. As well Palmer aint gettin us nowhere.
January 6th, 2012 at 9:59 am
357. Flynn? Don’t know.
Frank Reich had a pretty good game once too. Lotta guys. Not sure if Flynn;’s gonna consistently post those numbers without a Super Bowl caliber cast backing him.
January 6th, 2012 at 10:01 am
both have a better shot at “building a bully” than the guy with pretty fingernails & toenails imo
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LMAO!
A better guy to build a bully is the guy who sucker punches coaches and breaks a jaw, than the guy who reads People magazine and watches Basketball wives.
January 6th, 2012 at 10:01 am
Some people will never be happy with the Raiders.
Al sucked
Hue sucks
Palmer sucks
Bey sucks
DMC sucks
Some “fans” just wanna hate but Oakland makes it pretty easy sometimez…
January 6th, 2012 at 10:02 am
Flynn better go wherever Philbin goes.
Kolb without Reid hasn’t been pretty.
January 6th, 2012 at 10:02 am
Flynn will be Kevin Kolb 2.0
January 6th, 2012 at 10:03 am
360.ddwight Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 9:59 am
355.ElkGRaider Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 9:54 am
Why do people keep throwing Flynn around like we need another QB?? What exactly has Flynn won in this league?!?
Bottom line…let Hue worry about the offense. A freak year of injuries shouldnt happen again. REVAMP THE D!!
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Because we do need another QB. And D-Coor. As well Palmer aint gettin us nowhere.
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You guys are delusional. Ive heard of “what have you done for me lately” but hes great after ONE GAME?? Do you understand that it might be the system (i.e. Kolb, Cassell)?!?
Palmer is an upper echelon QB who happened to come from the couch midseason and nearly lead us to the playoffs. You guys are nuts. No cred…
January 6th, 2012 at 10:03 am
For those calling for Hue to be fired. You have no patience and will never be satisfied. You have no foresight and your opinions are as emotionally driven as a fickle litch beeotch!
January 6th, 2012 at 10:03 am
Kevin Kolb is Scott Mitchell 2.0
January 6th, 2012 at 10:04 am
I was a big HuJak fan early on, but leading the most undisciplined Raider team in history says a whole heckuva lot. It says the guy can’t control his players. Great example of that was Boyd laughing off a PF on the sideline with teammates.
I mean, really? The most undisciplined Raider team ever? Wow.
That fact and the late season collapse will weigh on the decision to retain him. Also some of the boneheaded go-for-broke plays called on 4th and 1.
That being said, I can see giving him another chance as his offense has shown promise. Just don’t know that he’s head coach material.
January 6th, 2012 at 10:04 am
367.
Yes
January 6th, 2012 at 10:04 am
YoungAmerican Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 10:02 am
Flynn better go wherever Philbin goes.
Kolb without Reid hasn’t been pretty.
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So Philbin and Flynn to Miami
or Philbin and Flynn to Oakland?
one problem; too much invested in Carson, too many other holes to fill (18 free agents, many of whom were emergency sign ups due to injury)
January 6th, 2012 at 10:06 am
You guys have to give him a chance to bring in his own staff and players to fit his system. With all of Al’s project players and injuries to all our producers,he did a pretty damn good job.
January 6th, 2012 at 10:06 am
“I agree. However at some point it is the PLAYERS job to make plays.”
You are correct sir!
Some of these guys just plain do not care about football just the cash!
January 6th, 2012 at 10:07 am
The Big Banana Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 10:04 am
I was a big HuJak fan early on, but leading the most undisciplined Raider team in history says a whole heckuva lot. It says the guy can’t control his players. Great example of that was Boyd laughing off a PF on the sideline with teammates.
I mean, really? The most undisciplined Raider team ever? Wow.
That fact and the late season collapse will weigh on the decision to retain him. Also some of the boneheaded go-for-broke plays called on 4th and 1.
That being said, I can see giving him another chance as his offense has shown promise. Just don’t know that he’s head coach material.
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You do realize that the players knew they only really had to answer to Al before, and when Al died they didnt really feel like ANYONE had any true power over them anymore, right??
All you people need to realize what kind of impact AD’s death had on the entire organization. It like in Egypt when the dictator was ousted, there was chaos. Same situation here. GET. A. GRIP!!!
January 6th, 2012 at 10:07 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 10:06 am
“I agree. However at some point it is the PLAYERS job to make plays.”
You are correct sir!
Some of these guys just plain do not care about football just the cash!
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Yes, yes, and YES!! (Kelly, Routt, and Huff, possibly Seymour as well)
January 6th, 2012 at 10:08 am
For those calling for Hue to be fired. You have no patience and will never be satisfied. You have no foresight and your opinions are as emotionally driven as a fickle litch beeotch!
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So what happens when the GM fires him?
Will you say the same things to him?
January 6th, 2012 at 10:09 am
376
If the GM fires him, and he wont, it wont be because you said he should JFB. So get over yourself.
January 6th, 2012 at 10:09 am
in Al’s Defense: why he hired Chuck B to run his Defense
everybody is always quick to blame the scheme
Last time our Run Defense ranked Top 5 was under Chuck (2002) ranked #3
Has worked for Al before. Has worked with Hue before. looking for a shot at redemption. seemed like a good fit. Chuck was good enough to net 8 wins, despite being dealt a lousy hand … as described earlier
January 6th, 2012 at 10:10 am
“He comes from a Packer philosophy of draft and develop, and is not afraid to play young players at the expense of more established veterans.”
Now this is what I’m talkin about. This is how you win a superbowl. Not the free-agent, fire you coach every year way some people on here want to go…
January 6th, 2012 at 10:10 am
CanuckRaider Says:
#298: Agreed…A possible switch to the 3-4 could be just the thing to get Romac going too
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Scheme doesn’t explain why he’s lazy and fires guns next to people’s faces. They should part ways with him.
January 6th, 2012 at 10:11 am
378
No. He hired him because he couldnt find anyone else to work under his oppression. That’s why he was only hired as a defensive asst at first, and only got promoted by default.
January 6th, 2012 at 10:11 am
The Big Banana Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 10:04 am
I was a big HuJak fan early on, but leading the most undisciplined Raider team in history says a whole heckuva lot. It says the guy can’t control his players. Great example of that was Boyd laughing off a PF on the sideline with teammates.
I mean, really? The most undisciplined Raider team ever? Wow.
That fact and the late season collapse will weigh on the decision to retain him. Also some of the boneheaded go-for-broke plays called on 4th and 1.
That being said, I can see giving him another chance as his offense has shown promise. Just don’t know that he’s head coach material.
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See this is what i’d be worried about. Its the most penalized team. He said he’d fix it, he didn’t, and then said; I’m pissed at my team – im puttin it all on me, but I thought this team was ready to take the next step. THEN he says . I promise you I WONT BE FEELING THIS WAY AGAIN NEXT YEAR – it is setting himself up to fall again, because the team didn’t buy in the first time.
the KC game was just barely a win, and the offense put up, and the Defense just was beaten, period. He couldn’t back it up, because the team’s play wasn(t winning. They didnt win for him OR for themselves.
I mean, he needs to just meet quietly and agree to tone it down. I think the other issues like Boyd laughing on the sidelines after he got burned by Megatron in the Detroit game, then Pryor doing the “Dougie” on the sidelines in the Chief loss spoke volumes. These guys aren’t focused and the culture has to change.
Its ENTRENCHED beyond when Jackson was even hired. Sapp was dancin on the sidelines in a season ending loss against Jacksonville some years ago. You could take the McElroy interview on the Jets
” multiple teammates “didn’t care if we won or lost.”
you could put that right on Oakland.
January 6th, 2012 at 10:12 am
@376. Its not gonna happen this offseason. IF he does eventually fire him it’ll be because a continued lack of progress. Not because your not happy with Hue’s first season.
January 6th, 2012 at 10:12 am
What went through your head when Bynum pulled up lame on that half-ending shot?
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LOL!
What hit me upside the head harder was when dude said Bynum only had 2 assists ….. THIS SEASON.
Still not adding Gasoft to the deal, and still not taking to Turkeyloos contract.
PG is the bigger need.
January 6th, 2012 at 10:12 am
If the GM fires him, and he wont, it wont be because you said he should JFB. So get over yourself.
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LOL, did I ever say that?
All we are doing is taking our best guesses at what will happen.
I think the new GM will fire him. You don’t.
We will see who is right.
January 6th, 2012 at 10:13 am
Great news.
Now let’s wait for GB’s season to end so we can hire Mike Trgovac as DC, he’s currently their DL coach.
Trgovac was John Fox’s DC for most of his tenure in Carolina where they usually had a solid unit while running a 4-3.
When he went to Green Bay his boss was 3-4 Dom Capers and Trgovac was in charge of the DL’s transition to the new scheme, so he has experience in both systems.
So Trgovac is a former DL who has coached under 2 of the most respected defensive coaches over the last 15 years, one ran a 4-3 the other a 3-4, gotta like his resume.
Dennis Thurman would also seem like a good choice if Hue gets some input and McKenzie likes what he sees from Dennis, working against him would be the fact that he’s never been a Coordinator before.
Mike Nolan would be a nice hire as well.
I don’t think Del Rio will come back as a DC, he’s probably still owed some big money from Jax and he might as well do the TV thing for a year or two and wait for another HC job in the pro’s or in College.
Spagnuolo seems like a lock to go back to Philly at some point.
January 6th, 2012 at 10:13 am
380
No conviction yet, and no weapon found. Besides, if he shot a gun beside someone’s head, do you REALLY think that’s only a misdemeanor?? Cmon man!!!!
January 6th, 2012 at 10:13 am
As much as we harp on Bresnahan, the players have to execute too. He did have some head scratchers for calls, but for the most part our players didnt get it done.
I also strongly believe we have more 3-4 personnel than 4-3, which is our biggest problem.
Trying to shove a triangle in a square.
January 6th, 2012 at 10:13 am
#374 – you do realize that all Raider head coaches had to deal with that same handicap of the players feeling like they only had to answer to Al, right?
And, if anything, they should have felt more inclined to listen to the head coach after AD’s death since Hue was suddenly placed in control of player transactions.
Most penalties ever. Wow. Can’t run from that one, I’m afraid. No matter how you slice it.
January 6th, 2012 at 10:13 am
378.RaiderRockstar Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 10:09 am
in Al’s Defense: why he hired Chuck B to run his Defense
everybody is always quick to blame the scheme
Last time our Run Defense ranked Top 5 was under Chuck (2002) ranked #3
Has worked for Al before. Has worked with Hue before. looking for a shot at redemption. seemed like a good fit. Chuck was good enough to net 8 wins, despite being dealt a lousy hand … as described earlier
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Ranked #3 when he had a bunch of vets that knew adjustments on the fly.
Bottom line…his schemes sucked. Why Rolando and Boyd (frickin BOYD!!) was anywhere near Megatron is beyond me…
January 6th, 2012 at 10:14 am
Looks like M Davis works swiftly and doesn’t drag things out like Al did. We didn’t need this to drag on till March!
Nice work!
Get to work Reggie…
January 6th, 2012 at 10:14 am
J Hill Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 10:12 am
What went through your head when Bynum pulled up lame on that half-ending shot?
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LOL!
What hit me upside the head harder was when dude said Bynum only had 2 assists ….. THIS SEASON.
Still not adding Gasoft to the deal, and still not taking to Turkeyloos contract.
PG is the bigger need
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The offense Mike Brown likes doesnt really need a classic PG. Lebron ran PG fine in CLE. Turkoglu would thrive in LA with Kobe & Dwight. You guys have the $ and ability to absorb his deal. He’s actually playing like the old “Turk” this year too.
January 6th, 2012 at 10:14 am
389
Yep youre right, and that’s why we have like 8 of the top 10 most penalized teams ever. What you just said is more of an indictment of Al Davis than it is of Hue Jackson.
January 6th, 2012 at 10:15 am
Fire em all! Lets Go RAIDERS!
January 6th, 2012 at 10:15 am
In my opinion Hue is better suited to be a special teams coach.
Hue would revolutionize the art of fake punts.
Just Win Baby.
January 6th, 2012 at 10:15 am
You know that whole Serena Williams thing got me to thinking about the NFL.
How many NFL players do not like football that much but realize it is a way to make millions of dollars?
January 6th, 2012 at 10:15 am
378. Again, misleading numbers and stats.
Chick had the most prolific offense in Raider history protecting him.
Gannon and that Raider line played small ball, dominated the LOS put up points to protect and the owned the clock.
Muuuuch easier for your D when that shizz is happenin
January 6th, 2012 at 10:15 am
If the defense had actually built a “bully” and became a physical, discplined defense, Hue Jackson would have got the majority of credit, and rightfully so.
It is a two-way street.
HC’s have both the positives and negatives fall in his lap, for all facets of the game and team, in every sport.
January 6th, 2012 at 10:16 am
STFU, Scottie.
January 6th, 2012 at 10:17 am
385
Actually I’m already right. You think it’s coincidence that McKenzie was here and then the reports of the 4 defensive assts being let go was a coincidence?? NO!! McKenzie took the job, told Hue he would give him a year to pick his own DC (with Reggies approval) and run the defense as he sees fit. Hue is staying, or he’d be gone already.
January 6th, 2012 at 10:18 am
The Big Banana Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 10:13 am
#374 – you do realize that all Raider head coaches had to deal with that same handicap of the players feeling like they only had to answer to Al, right?
And, if anything, they should have felt more inclined to listen to the head coach after AD’s death since Hue was suddenly placed in control of player transactions.
Most penalties ever. Wow. Can’t run from that one, I’m afraid. No matter how you slice it.
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It would be interesting to see how many of those penalties were commited by the scrubs we were forced to send in there over and over because of massive injuries this year.
Can;t excuse Veldheer and Barnes combining for 18 and Routt with 17.
Eek!
January 6th, 2012 at 10:18 am
With McKenzie, I only hope we get more Rich Gannon type players and less Larry Brown.
January 6th, 2012 at 10:19 am
Shoot, I hope we get Rich Gannon as QB coach lol..
January 6th, 2012 at 10:19 am
Scottie is off his MEDS.
January 6th, 2012 at 10:20 am
You guys forget that Hue was hired when Al was alive?
What do Oakland Head Coaches do?
They’re captain of the Offense.
Al got his guy to run the defense.
January 6th, 2012 at 10:21 am
RaidingTexas Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 10:10 am
CanuckRaider Says:
#298: Agreed…A possible switch to the 3-4 could be just the thing to get Romac going too
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Scheme doesn’t explain why he’s lazy and fires guns next to people’s faces. They should part ways with him.
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Obviously wasn’t vetted more thoroughly to include the background stuff in Decatur, Alabama and he played with a 350 lb. beast in front of him named Terrence Cody and a defensive genius (for college, anyway) in Nick Saban – they didnt vett JaMarcus (anapea sleep disorder/purple drank), nor Campbell (some brain problem in college) – McKenzie has a background in developing younger players – now he just needs Eliot Wolf to assist in scouting and finding them.
another story. Back when Turner was the head coach, he and pseudo GM Mike Lombardi went to the Senior Bowl. Guess who their consensus pick was ? Darren Sproles. Who did we draft? Sproles went in the fourth, we took Randy Moss (didnt have a pick – dealt it to Seattle) – ultimately we got Routt, from that and Sproles is heading deep into the playoffs with some record yardage from scrimmage.
January 6th, 2012 at 10:22 am
As far as Hue “throwing the players under the bus”…I’m glad he called them out.
Listen, we’ve been doing it here since this blog started.
Every year we complain about the Defense not getting it done while the Coaches point to poor execution and lack of discipline.
It’s time for the players to be held accountable, if they get their feelings hurt good, it was about time.
Wether Hue stays or not, I will thank him for putting the players on the spot, the focus and pressure is on them now and I’m sure McKenzie will agree with Hue about it.
January 6th, 2012 at 10:23 am
387
You do realize that McClain renewed hid gun permit hours before brandishing the weapon… coincidental or premeditated?
You do also realize that he was on leave for a funeral so instead of handling his personal business he was at his friends house starting fights while the rest of the team was hard at work in Alameda?
None of us really care about the charges what we are upset about is his lack of focus on being the leader of the defense.
There is a time to play thug in the streets and there is a time to focus on the Dolphins game plan, this is why we are upset at McClain I could care less what he was charged with.
January 6th, 2012 at 10:23 am
Actually I’m already right.
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LMAO
January 6th, 2012 at 10:29 am
Santonio Holmes?
Although he just signed a 5 year contact….
Cause: Holmes, Moore, Ford and DHB sounds good…
January 6th, 2012 at 10:29 am
Al Davis would not have fired Hue simply because the season would have unfolded so much differently HAD AL BEEN ALIVE.
There would not have been a Palmer trade.
Hagan would not have been released for Housh.
DHB wouldn’t have been taken out of the offense for 2 games.
Davis still would have been running the defense.
We would have simply been a team out of the playoffs getting ready for the draft …. with Jackson as the HC.
January 6th, 2012 at 10:30 am
DutchRaider77 Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 10:29 am
Santonio Holmes?
Although he just signed a 5 year contact….
Cause: Holmes, Moore, Ford and DHB sounds good…
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Does sound good..
But im not sure thats the message you want to send right away, that you want those type of players.
January 6th, 2012 at 10:31 am
J Hill Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 10:29 am
Al Davis would not have fired Hue simply because the season would have unfolded so much differently HAD AL BEEN ALIVE.
There would not have been a Palmer trade.
Hagan would not have been released for Housh.
DHB wouldn’t have been taken out of the offense for 2 games.
Davis still would have been running the defense.
We would have simply been a team out of the playoffs getting ready for the draft …. with Jackson as the HC.
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Agreed.
Also would have seen a lot more Pryor.
January 6th, 2012 at 10:31 am
I also strongly believe we have more 3-4 personnel than 4-3, which is our biggest problem.
Trying to shove a triangle in a square.
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Absofuhgginlutely!!!!
January 6th, 2012 at 10:32 am
goddamit. i have a great post to make but i keeps not getting posted.
January 6th, 2012 at 10:33 am
Fire Hue…this hire is only good if Hue gets canned…it started with Palmer trade then Hagan being cut cut for Housh then McClain fiasco and ending 1-4 stretch throwing players under bus….get him the fk outta here now Reggie Mac
January 6th, 2012 at 10:34 am
You guys have the $ and ability to absorb his deal. He’s actually playing like the old “Turk” this year too.
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If you want to take Artest back, then fine.
Had we amnestied Artest, I could see it. But the 2 of them on the roster together makes zero sense.
January 6th, 2012 at 10:34 am
What is with everybody’s Hagan-lust? He had one or two good preseason games. So what? Once up a time, so did Kenny Shedd and Louis Rankin.
January 6th, 2012 at 10:35 am
Holmes is exactly the type of player the roster needs fewer of.
January 6th, 2012 at 10:37 am
The New Man At The Top!!! http://raiderchaos.blogspot.com/2012/01/reggie-mckenzie-man-at-top.html
January 6th, 2012 at 10:37 am
There is really no going back and forth about HUEY anymore.
We have a GM.
REGGIE will do the right thing.
January 6th, 2012 at 10:38 am
Now Reggie McKenzie’s background is on personnel, a GM’s job goes far beyond scouting and Reggie will be in charge of the whole team for the 1st time.
The Raiders organization is in for a major rebuilding job as far as the front office is concerned, my guess is that will be Reggie’s priority and that will take some time because, as we all know, the Raiders had no real structure, Reggie has to build one from the ground up.
With that being said, I believe Hue should be back next year and given a 1 year extension that won’t necessarily be fullfiled, just add another year to his contracxt so he’s not a lame duck coach, then closely evaluate his second season as a HC with a full off-season program and without having to worry about personnel decisions, let him just coach the team and if can’t cut it, let him go.
Unless Hue is a problem right now, I want him back that’s for sure but not at the expense of Reggie’s autorithy, Hue needs to understand that he will make a living as a Coach, not as a GM and that if he works with McKenzie and they get the Raiders back on top, it would be the best thing to happen for his career.
January 6th, 2012 at 10:38 am
Hue Jackson EGO is bigger than anything else, he wont be retained he will be GONE, theres news that he may not be Happy about the Hire.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/06/dont-be-shocked-if-hue-jackson-doesnt-last-in-oakland/
January 6th, 2012 at 10:38 am
Hey Reggie, do what you have to do and find a way to snag Burfict.
January 6th, 2012 at 10:38 am
396.Silverandblack666 Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 10:15 am
You know that whole Serena Williams thing got me to thinking about the NFL.
How many NFL players do not like football that much but realize it is a way to make millions of dollars?
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Some players may lose a bit of the “eye of the tiger” once their bank accounts get too fat.
But nah, you don’t go out there and risk bodily injury like that on Sundays if you don’t love the game.
January 6th, 2012 at 10:39 am
“What is with everybody’s Hagan-lust?”
Best gunner on special teams and we all saw the drop off when he left.
January 6th, 2012 at 10:39 am
419. Soooooooo right.
January 6th, 2012 at 10:39 am
J Hill Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 10:34 am
You guys have the $ and ability to absorb his deal. He’s actually playing like the old “Turk” this year too.
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If you want to take Artest back, then fine.
Had we amnestied Artest, I could see it. But the 2 of them on the roster together makes zero sense.
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Ya, thats true. But no thanks on Artest. He looks pretty bad.
Unless you guys take Jason Richardson too?..
January 6th, 2012 at 10:40 am
423. Pure speculation.
January 6th, 2012 at 10:41 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 10:39 am
“What is with everybody’s Hagan-lust?”
Best gunner on special teams and we all saw the drop off when he left.
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Agreed.
I wont listen to the argument for him as a better WR, but his impact on ST was pretty good.
January 6th, 2012 at 10:41 am
What is with everybody’s Hagan-lust?
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Have no idea.
But it is was one of the first things the fire Hue guys started getting on Hue about this season.
January 6th, 2012 at 10:42 am
Unless you guys take Jason Richardson too?..
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Sound like we are buliding a garbage burrito.
Would you have any interest in Fluke Walton?
January 6th, 2012 at 10:44 am
J Hill Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 10:42 am
Unless you guys take Jason Richardson too?..
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Sound like we are buliding a garbage burrito.
Would you have any interest in Fluke Walton?
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How are his Gatorade fetching skills?
January 6th, 2012 at 10:44 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 9:24 am
It’s our understanding that, behind the scenes, Jackson has been even more candid, and that the arrival of McKenzie could — not will but could — result in Jackson being one and done in Oakland.
Would it be shocking? Yes. But not much more shocking than last year’s decision to part ways with Tom Cable after a far less expected 8-8 season.
-PFT
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Tom Cable or Rob Ryan back in Oakland?
both have a better shot at “building a bully” than the guy with pretty fingernails & toenails imo
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Hue thinking he should have a say in GM hiring=stupid, ppl thinking he deserves 0 blame for D woes =wrong, should we fire him and start from = i don’t believe so, if we do fire Hue i hope your kidding about Ryan and Cable although the manicure thing is very questionable
January 6th, 2012 at 10:45 am
Hue deserves a break for goodness sake. I know its been said before but look at all he had to deal with. Al passing, injuries, & no real leadership to help mentor him. On top of that ge is a ROOKIE head coach. Being new on a job you are going to make some mistakes. Ge should be pissed at the players because they are suppose to be executing the plays. How many great plays were called because of penalties. Too many. That’s on the players. They need to play smarter. Hue brought in refs during practices to help with that issue and the PLAYERS still couldn’t get it. Veteran players should have displayed more leadership. Yes the Carson move is questionable but what did you expect Hue to do? He thought his boy Palmer could give is team the best chance to win. And he almost did. We can’t ignore injuries either. No DMAC, Ford, Murphy, moore, Reece, & Schillens for a good part of the season hurt especially in the latter half of the season. And that’s only the offense. Defense was just as bad. D-Line & Secondary hobbled all season. RoMac playing on a bad ankle. Come on son. Hue had to get a little big head. Dude was overwhelmed at the end of the day and vented how he felt at the end of the season. It’s not like he called anybody out per say but at least he was honest. Maybe to little to late bit we all knew that. I feel bad for Rod Woodson because he had depleted staff to coach so he’ll be a casualty but ge gas the makings of being a great DB coach. Biekert just couldn’t get it with the LB core so he gotta bounce too. Defense was just horrible. Needs a coach on D that is about business.
Reggie will keep Hue in line. Hue better listen. This is an chance of a lifetime to learn from one of the best. Hue just gotta settle down and take chill pill. Next Irish coffee is on me.
January 6th, 2012 at 10:48 am
Excuses. Excuses.
January 6th, 2012 at 10:48 am
He hired him because he couldnt find anyone else to work under his oppression
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Hump,
gotta link ???
January 6th, 2012 at 10:48 am
Reggie needs to give Hue a body check and then tell him to reel his crank in and leave it there until further notice.
The end
January 6th, 2012 at 10:49 am
First of all, I believe that this is part of the Al Davis plan for the transition after his death. Kinda like in the Godfather when Vito Corleone constantly met with Michael. I believe AD met and worked with Mark Davis to prepare him for this day and his compos, Madden and Wolf were involved. Hue Jackson is not going anywhere. He is a good offensive mind and with a good defensive coordinator. The Raiders will win the West next Year. The crap I’ve read in regards to Hue is remarkable. He is part of AD’s solution, not the problem.
January 6th, 2012 at 10:51 am
Not excuses when they are facts. Just saying.
January 6th, 2012 at 10:52 am
I am just wondering whether the fact Reggie jumping the gun before the team announcement will have an effect on the position. Raiders have not confirmed the hiring.
Maybe we are getting excited over something that is not going to happen.
January 6th, 2012 at 10:57 am
Again, misleading numbers and stats.
Chick had the most prolific offense in Raider history protecting him.
Gannon and that Raider line played small ball, dominated the LOS put up points to protect and the owned the clock.
Muuuuch easier for your D when that shizz is happenin
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Ole,
if you’re bragging about how Hue transformed the offense and how many points we’re scoring, why is Chuck a bad hire?
you should expect 2002 type of offensive production, right?
January 6th, 2012 at 10:58 am
On NFL Network’s “Around the League” yesterday, they reported that Chuck Bresnahan was fired. There was a title card, b-roll footage of him looking stupid at practice and the host said it himself.
But I haven’t seen it announced anywhere else and I keep seeing people post “Fire Chuck” as if it hasn’t happened.
January 6th, 2012 at 10:59 am
What is the big deal over Hue Jackson saying what was obvious to anyone watching the lst four weeks of the season – that the Raiders defense did not show up and make plays when it counted. He didn’t single out anyone individually so I can’t understand why anyone on the team would be unhappy. As for him being power hungry, when asked at his last presser whether he wanted to be a GM/Hc he quickly and emphatically said “no way”.
A lot of the bloviators on this site put the blame in the wrong places. In the NFL when teams fail it is usually due to one or both of the following:1) they don’t have enought talent; 2) the talent they have is not being effectively utilized because it does not match the scheme. In the case of the Raiders defense, both are true.
January 6th, 2012 at 10:59 am
Whew! I can now breathe a sigh of relief, welcome home Reggie. It is a shame the defense showed no pride and commitment to try and win in front of a sold out home crowd; for that, I hope most of the defensive players are released and no other team picks those losers up, they should stay unemployed. Someone thought that maybe Biekert and Woodson should be retained, with a backfield like the Raiders had, I don’t think so. Kept waiting to hear if Chuck B got fired and now that he has, my day is so much more enjoyable, rid of Chuck B and Reggie coming back home to the Nation.
January 6th, 2012 at 11:02 am
“…he has been reported as a person of interest since the death of owner Al Davis on Oct. 8″
I say arrest him now and bring him in for questioning then, Jerry.
January 6th, 2012 at 11:03 am
Bresnahan is gone. Stop worrying about it, folks.
January 6th, 2012 at 11:03 am
Reggie McKenzie….. Welcome home Raider!!..
January 6th, 2012 at 11:04 am
Someone should help REGGIE out and compile a list of all Hue’s game management blunders from this season.
It would be a MASSIVE UNDERTAKING.
January 6th, 2012 at 11:04 am
Chucky B is gone, it’s all about the paperwork. If they fire him early the Raiders probably owe more money that way.
January 6th, 2012 at 11:04 am
418…RaidePunk…shut up you loser….your brain is too small to comprehend what the Hagan thing meant to the season. It set a bad precedent for the team….and Jhill you know why and you know better….Hue ego too big
January 6th, 2012 at 11:05 am
It’s a great day to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?!
“Hue deserves a break…”
Ummm…NO he doesn’t. NOBODY on the Raiders’ sideline or locker room deserves a break. The Raiders should have taken control of their division, and football destiny, after they were 7-4.
After 7-4, the Raiders not making the Playoffs was as huge a failure as any failure in Raiders team history.
Hue doesn’t deserve a break, but he does deserve another season. Al Davis realized the League had shifted to be overly-favorable to Offenses and high scoring, and he chose Hue Jax as HC because he saw that Hue has a free-wheeling Offensive mind. Too free-wheeling sometimes? Maybe…but Hue (usually) gets points on that board.
It’s not time to change the Raiders O. It’s time to contain the Raiders opponents’ Defenses.
January 6th, 2012 at 11:05 am
RMtheGM: So Hue, What’s your vision for the team?
Hue: Obviously, you’re here now and I… believe I know whats wrong with the team, in my opinion, I feel that with the playmakers we have I can do a fantastic job! Obviously the defense, you know my history with the defensive side, I told Mark and Amy what needs to happen and I’m sure they relayed that to you. So Obviously my job is to help get this little nick in the defense better and get us to where we want to be.
RMtheGM: Is that mascara you’re wearing?!
January 6th, 2012 at 11:07 am
Yep post 435 was nothing but excuses for big mouthed Hue and spoiled rich boy Carson…what a joke
January 6th, 2012 at 11:07 am
Graider:
You are RIGHT on!!
When you give up the 2nd most points in Franchise History, 433 points, ITS ALL on AL’s defense, and that tird D coordinator.
we going places people!!!
January 6th, 2012 at 11:08 am
Raiders have not confirmed the hiring.
Maybe we are getting excited over something that is not going to happen.
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Qodrn,
I have no doubt that Reggie accepted the GM job.
Just hope nothing changes his mind between now and when the ink on his contract dries!
January 6th, 2012 at 11:09 am
“what the Hagan thing meant to the season. It set a bad precedent for the team”
Then to come out an openly say that he replaced an “AL” guy with one of his guys was pretty arrogant.
January 6th, 2012 at 11:11 am
We’re in good hands with Reggie Mc… I haven’t heard anything but goodthings on the sports stations about Reggie … Everything’s positive…. I think he’s gonna get this team back into this century… If the GM fires Hue then he’s problably all ready got an upgrade in mind… I can’t think of much to complain about today… good move Raiders…
January 6th, 2012 at 11:12 am
RaiderRockstar Says: January 6th, 2012 at 6:50 am
The gift of McKenzie from Ron Wolf will come with a complete overhaul of the scouting department. Days of former players as scouts are done – Vittorio Tafur
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Who’s gonna find the next JaMarcus Russell or Rolando McClain, then?
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I guess you don’t like Ford,Moore,shaunnessy,Veldhere,d bryant
January 6th, 2012 at 11:13 am
What I’m interested in seeing is the PC introducing McKenzie as GM. Hoping to see Mark Davis be interviewed and answer questions, as well as hearing what Reggie responds with to the media’s questions, cos I’m sure they’ll ask some interesting ones.
January 6th, 2012 at 11:13 am
When you give up the 2nd most points in Franchise History, 433 points, ITS ALL on AL’s defense, and that tird D coordinator.
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303,
Hue didn’t have the authority to fire Chuck or take a more hands-on approach on D, but he was somehow able to trade draft picks for Palmer & Curry ???
January 6th, 2012 at 11:14 am
I don’t know if you watch the games but rolando mclain was injured all year and still plYed..bum ankle, helmet to the shin twice in one game..let’s see how fast you run after that.
January 6th, 2012 at 11:15 am
and Jhill you know why and you know better….Hue ego too big
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I liked Hagan and what he brought to the team. No question about that.
Looking at the big picture of bringing in Palmer and giving him a WR he felt “comfortable with”, I can understand why Housh was brought in.
I’m all for a new HC but for much different reasons that you. It’s as simple as letting the new regime bring in their guy.
January 6th, 2012 at 11:15 am
365.Just Fire Baby Says:
Flynn will be Kevin Kolb 2.0
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Correct, Vegas — I don’t know that Flynn will see the same amount of guaranteed money as Kolb (thanks to Kolb’s less-than-stellar returns)…
But Flynn will get a really nice pay raise soon…and Jason Campbell’s next contract will be a bargain, relatively speaking. The Raiders won’t be spending the big money for Flynn. I’d just as soon make JCampbell a well-paid #2 QB…at least we know he can operate this Offense.
January 6th, 2012 at 11:16 am
Method To My Madness Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 11:04 am
418…RaidePunk…shut up you loser….your brain is too small to comprehend what the Hagan thing meant to the season. It set a bad precedent for the team….and Jhill you know why and you know better….Hue ego too big
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Yes, I can certainly understand why cutting a little-used backup WR and replacing him with another little-used backup WR would devastate the entire team.
When you’re ready to remove your tongue from Hagan’s cornhole and speak intelligently, let us know.
January 6th, 2012 at 11:16 am
The last thing we need is a lame duck coaching situation.
Hue has one year left on his deal with a 3rd year as an option, right?
January 6th, 2012 at 11:18 am
GG Says:
What I’m interested in seeing is the PC introducing McKenzie as GM.
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The first thing I’ll want to see is whether or not Hue is sitting in that room. That may tell a lot.
January 6th, 2012 at 11:18 am
Brian Xanders and Josh McDaniels in Denver.
Scott Pioli and Todd Haley in KC.
Billy Devaney and Steve Spagnuolo in St. Louis.
Phil Savage and Romeo Crennel in Cleveland.
Mark Dominik and Raheem Morris in Tampa Bay.
There’s no guarantee that a new GM will get his 1st coaching hire right.
And with Reggie McKenzie having to build a front office structure from scratch, why not give Hue a 2nd season to properly evaluate him after a normal off-season program where he can fine tune the offense and work with a new DC that will hopefully prevent our team from losing after averaging 26 points and gaining 500 yards over the last 2 must-win home games.
Nobody can deny the guy can coach an offense and that’s a start, is he HC material? that remains to be seen but … believe it or not, coaches, just as players, tend to grow, learn from their mistakes and get better with experience.
January 6th, 2012 at 11:19 am
The Raiders never announce anything before they absolutely have to, and sometimes they don’t announce a development at all, leaving one to read about it on the team website. I have no doubt that Reggie McKenzie is on board, especially since he himself confirmed it.
On the subject of continuity as it relates to the head coach, I can see why there is the “keep Hue because we’re tired of a new head coach every year” sentiment. Not recommending either course, but this has to be looked at differently than prior years. There is a new GM, with possibly more new people from the same organization. They no doubt have a vision of what they want, and based on the Packers’ success the past several years i’m inclined to give them the benefit of the doubt should the decision be made to move on without Hue Jackson. If McKenzie and his staff feel like the short-term transition is better for the long term success of the franchise, then they will move on and I won’t miss Hue and his drama queen act one bit.
January 6th, 2012 at 11:19 am
Morning/afternoon peoples!
Great news!
January 6th, 2012 at 11:20 am
Bob Marley Says:
Nobody can deny the guy can coach an offense
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Oh yes I can. You must have missed my repeated posts on this very topic.
January 6th, 2012 at 11:22 am
Hue is good at X’s and O’s but doesn’t have what it takes to lead a locker room.
Hue lost the locker room.
Anytime the Head Coach loses the locker room he must be fired.
No exceptions.
The players bought in early to Hue’s hype about family and brotherhood but quickly realized he was a phoney after Hue botched the Campbell, Hagen, and McClain situations.
Hue talked a big game but couldn’t back it up.
The players took notice.
And when Hue would threaten the players job security on Saturday nights before the games, it drew a collective yawn from the team.
The Head Coach has to have the ability to take the pulse of his team.
Hue didn’t.
Just Win Baby.
January 6th, 2012 at 11:23 am
So 2night is the night my Dubs put a hurting on the Fake show.
January 6th, 2012 at 11:25 am
Check it out: Our new GM had a rap career
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eEF8zplJY8
January 6th, 2012 at 11:26 am
Now we are going to find out who the malcontents and sh!tbirds are on this team. Heads are going roll. Cant wait to see which ones they are!
Schilens & Murphy you might want to make sure you have all your belongings from the locker room out by end of business today!
January 6th, 2012 at 11:26 am
Obviously.
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DMAC Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 11:23 am
So 2night is the night my Dubs put a hurting on the Fake show.
January 6th, 2012 at 11:26 am
Teach — Totally agree. Although I’m all for keeping Hue Jax another year, to see what he can do in a more stable environment than this past year. But…I give RMcKenzie the benefit of the doubt when he comes in. He’ll do what he thinks is best for the team, I have no doubt. In Reggie I trust.
January 6th, 2012 at 11:27 am
261.Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 8:38 am
Hey Dakota,
Dmac = Zambrano
Spoiled quitters
+++++++++++++++++++
PFFFFFFFFFT
January 6th, 2012 at 11:28 am
I was just lookin up Reggies history and found that while he was at the U of Tennessee, Al Saunders was the OC for a year or two.
I’d be down with Saunders sticking around, could be the OC.
January 6th, 2012 at 11:28 am
DMAC Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 11:19 am
Morning/afternoon peoples!
Great news!
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Well then……….
FK u guys 2 this morning/afternoon
January 6th, 2012 at 11:28 am
Shane Lechler suggested there would be a player revolt when Cable was not retained and several key FA’s would not be back: as it turns out, Asomugha, Miller & Gallery found homes elsewhere. Bush, Satele & Reece were restricted or exclusive rights free agents not able to walk, so who knows?
Will certain players do the same for Hue?
If so, which ones?
Best guess is Jason Campbell, TJ Housh & Tyvon Branch
January 6th, 2012 at 11:30 am
“Now we are going to find out who the malcontents and sh!tbirds are on this team. Heads are going roll. Cant wait to see which ones they are!”
Yeah I agree, I want to know which one of these over paid underachievers goes first!
January 6th, 2012 at 11:30 am
RRS: Jason Campbell is gone in any case. He wants to start, and that ain’t happening here.
As for Housh: who cares?
January 6th, 2012 at 11:30 am
Branch needs to be resigned, but not at a ridiculous price like Huff took.
January 6th, 2012 at 11:31 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 11:30 am
“Now we are going to find out who the malcontents and sh!tbirds are on this team. Heads are going roll. Cant wait to see which ones they are!”
Yeah I agree, I want to know which one of these over paid underachievers goes first!
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If I were GM, Seymour and Kelly would get the ax first. Time to clean house and come fresh on the D.
January 6th, 2012 at 11:31 am
PFFFACE the PPFFFFACTS Dakota…
January 6th, 2012 at 11:31 am
479.Carl Weathers Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 11:28 am
I was just lookin up Reggies history and found that while he was at the U of Tennessee, Al Saunders was the OC for a year or two.
I’d be down with Saunders sticking around, could be the OC.
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Saunders would be great. It’s basically his offense anyway, he’s already the OC and he’s been around forever. Calling plays from the booth wouldn’t be a stretch at all for him.
January 6th, 2012 at 11:31 am
Might get some FA’s to follow Reg over.
January 6th, 2012 at 11:33 am
Then to come out an openly say that he replaced an “AL” guy with one of his guys was pretty arrogant.
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Now THAT was ridiculous!
January 6th, 2012 at 11:33 am
GB doesn’t have many, if any FAs that would interest the Raiders.
January 6th, 2012 at 11:36 am
Doesn’t sound like Hue had any say in this hiring. Mckenzie will have full authority, as he should, to do what he thinks is best for the organization. If he retains or fires Hue we should support his decision
January 6th, 2012 at 11:36 am
321.GoodOle00 Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 9:30 am
CanuckRaider Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 9:21 am
#298: Agreed…A possible switch to the 3-4 could be just the thing to get Romac going too. Why Al signed Routt for big money instead of keeping Aso is beyond me.
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Nnamdi wanted too much money, shut down a 1/3 of the field and we still never went to the playoffs with him
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Give me a break, Nnamdi signed a 5 year deal for $60 million with $25 guaranteed, the Raiders signed Routt to a 3 year deal for $31.5 million with $20 guaranteed over the first two years!
Nnamdi = 10 times the player Routt is, and for $12 million a year vs Routt’s $10.5 mill ion a year I think we can all see Al made the wrong call. Even if it would have taken $15 million a year to keep Nnamdi it would have been much more worth it compared to overpaying that penalty machine, TD giving up fool Routt!
FK
Thank god we finally have a GM!
January 6th, 2012 at 11:36 am
I like the way M Davis is in the background taking swift action. His pressers wont be as entertaining as Al’s but looking forward to the first one!
January 6th, 2012 at 11:37 am
And with Reggie McKenzie having to build a front office structure from scratch, why not give Hue a 2nd season to properly evaluate him after a normal off-season program where he can fine tune the offense and work with a new DC that will hopefully prevent our team from losing after averaging 26 points and gaining 500 yards over the last 2 must-win home games.
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Because that would essentially be a lame duck coaching scenario.
We don’t need that.
January 6th, 2012 at 11:37 am
So are they players not supposed to be held accountable? Week after week Hue took blame for his teams’ actions. Carson also admitted when he played horribly. But what about other players?
We need stability in our organization. Let dude get a full off season to instill his gameplan instead of the condensed one he had previously. Reggie should evaluate Hue this upcoming season just like Holmgrem did with Margini in Cleveland.
January 6th, 2012 at 11:38 am
Nnamdi was getting toasted even when Philly giving him help with a safety. Routt is equal to Nnamdi for less $$$
January 6th, 2012 at 11:40 am
Nnamdi = 10 times the player Routt is, and for $12 million a year vs Routt’s $10.5 mill ion a year I think we can all see Al made the wrong call.
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That is purely Monday morning QBing.
At the time the Routt deal was offered, Nnamdi’s AGENT was floating #s like 20 million a year.
Are you suggesting that Nnamdi’s agent would have accepted a paycut from the 16 million Nnamdi was supposed to make to play for “the Raiderssss”????
January 6th, 2012 at 11:40 am
367.L.A. Raider Dave Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 10:03 am
For those calling for Hue to be fired. You have no patience and will never be satisfied. You have no foresight and your opinions are as emotionally driven as a fickle litch beeotch!
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The decision should be up to the GM. Hue did not earn the right to have the owner or anyone else stand up and say, hey, you take this job as GM you have to keep Hue. Had he gone 10-6 he would have held that right and almost all of us would be yelling for Hue to stay.
He had his chance and fumbled it away. Let McKenzie decide if his risky decisions to leave points on the field, which almost cost us two games this season, is worth keeping him.
January 6th, 2012 at 11:40 am
When McKenzie played LB for the Raiders, was it a 3-4 or 4-3 configuration?
I’m a firm believer that we need to be a primary 3-4 defense with the ability to go 4-3 or even 5-2 if the occasion calls for it.
Just wondering where McKenzie’s head might be regarding this issue.
Any thoughts?
January 6th, 2012 at 11:42 am
No one really knows anything about Mark Davis give the guy credit for not promoting himself throughout the transition.
I personally like how he is quietly behind the scenes no press no quotes no interviews.
We don’t really know much about him except he is a classically handsome guy, yes I look like him, people at my office call me Mark Davis.
January 6th, 2012 at 11:43 am
Won’t we DON’T need to do is clean house entirely. To do that would be to take a step backwards from 8-8 two years in a row.
Most of us agree, we’re THIS CLOSE to becoming a good team — one more win, and we’d be playing this weekend. I have little doubt RMcKenzie will get the ship righted…but, I don’t want to see a 5-11 season (or worse) before we get back to being competitive.
Glass half-full, baby!
January 6th, 2012 at 11:43 am
RaiderPunk…I guess West Hollywood cross dressing phags like you don’t understand any area not related to runway fashion but notice Raiders never had a guy who could really run routes and be a 3rd down target since Hagan left! He also was a valuable member of the ST!…plus he was there since training camp putting in work with his teammates. You can’t underscore that ever! Of 11 rec for :agan 8 were first downs. We surely missed a guy on 3rd down who can get open
January 6th, 2012 at 11:43 am
If I recall it was 4-3. Remember, they had Matt Millen in the middle with Rod Martin and McKenzie on the sides.
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JB Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 11:40 am
When McKenzie played LB for the Raiders, was it a 3-4 or 4-3 configuration?
January 6th, 2012 at 11:45 am
how does Hue react if he has to reinterview for his job?
January 6th, 2012 at 11:45 am
RaiderPunk you’re such a fkin btch…oh yeah and Raider staying in Oakland and never going to play at Homo Farmer’s Field!
January 6th, 2012 at 11:46 am
490.YoungAmerican Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 11:33 am
GB doesn’t have many, if any FAs that would interest the Raiders.
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CB Jarrett Bush would be a nice addition. not sure who’s avialable at corner but I bet we don’t have to much cash to spend.
January 6th, 2012 at 11:46 am
Vittorio Tarfur: “I believe Davis and Trask firmly behind Hue. A lot happened this year and Hue gets another season to make good on promises.”
I agree and expect Hue to be back.
January 6th, 2012 at 11:46 am
Hill Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 11:40 am
Nnamdi = 10 times the player Routt is, and for $12 million a year vs Routt’s $10.5 mill ion a year I think we can all see Al made the wrong call.
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That is purely Monday morning QBing.
At the time the Routt deal was offered, Nnamdi’s AGENT was floating #s like 20 million a year.
Are you suggesting that Nnamdi’s agent would have accepted a paycut from the 16 million Nnamdi was supposed to make to play for “the Raiderssss”????
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Fine, $20 million a year for Nnamdi, still a better deal than $10.5 for Routt……waaaaaaay better deal.
I told you people Routt sucked for years and paying based on his performance in his contract years was a major mistake.
Just like it will be a mistake to over pay Branch this offseason. The guy sucked balz until his contract year RED FLAG!
January 6th, 2012 at 11:47 am
Carl Weathers Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 11:46 am
490.YoungAmerican Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 11:33 am
GB doesn’t have many, if any FAs that would interest the Raiders.
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CB Jarrett Bush would be a nice addition. not sure who’s avialable at corner but I bet we don’t have to much cash to spend.
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How about AJ Hawk? (3-4 D)
January 6th, 2012 at 11:47 am
Who obviously gives a Fk?
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inonewordraider Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 11:45 am
how does Hue react if he has to reinterview for his job?
January 6th, 2012 at 11:48 am
Hillbilly economics 101
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Dakota Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 11:46 am
Fine, $20 million a year for Nnamdi, still a better deal than $10.5 for Routt……waaaaaaay better deal.
January 6th, 2012 at 11:49 am
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Dakota, Branch doesnt suck balls, he’s fierce. He will end up being the leader of our secondary. A couple years ago he led the entire league in tackles by a safety. Slow down buddy.
January 6th, 2012 at 11:49 am
CB Jarrett Bush would be a nice addition. not sure who’s avialable at corner but I bet we don’t have to much cash to spend.
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How about AJ Hawk? (3-4 D)
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If the Raiders make moves in FA at cornerback, I’d rather they look to bring in a starter. Bush is a nickle/dime guy.
AJ Hawk is under contract through 2016.
January 6th, 2012 at 11:49 am
507.Davy Jones Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 11:46 am
Vittorio Tarfur: “I believe Davis and Trask firmly behind Hue. A lot happened this year and Hue gets another season to make good on promises.”
I agree and expect Hue to be back.
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Yeah, well I believe I am as handsome and athletic as I was when I was 20….doesn’t make it true though. Give us some proof ReTardfur.
January 6th, 2012 at 11:49 am
I hopped over to a GB board to see what they’re saying about the loss of Reggie.
They had nothing bad to say about him and we’re pretty pissed about losing him. The fans over there are concerened about finding future talent now and arguing back and forth amongst themselves. It’s as if i never left this board. LOL
These guys have a high potent offense and on their way to possibly another super bowl and yet they’re arguing and upset about the loss of Reggie.
Great news..Thanks Mark!!
January 6th, 2012 at 11:49 am
I for one do not think Routt “sucks”.
That’s strong verbage.
January 6th, 2012 at 11:50 am
And you constantly criticized AL for making stupid expensive moves, funny
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Dakota Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 11:46 am
Fine, $20 million a year for Nnamdi, still a better deal than $10.5 for Routt……waaaaaaay better deal.
January 6th, 2012 at 11:51 am
If Reggie Fires Hue right now I’d bet he’s got an upgrade in mind already….
January 6th, 2012 at 11:51 am
250.Dakota Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 8:22 am
Jhill,
Did you watch the Lakers game last night? What went through your head when Bynum pulled up lame on that half-ending shot?
Trade that m-fer to Orlando tomorrow is what should have gone through your head.
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Not sure if you responded to this or not Jhill. What do you think? Dwight looks pretty good now doesn’t he?
January 6th, 2012 at 11:52 am
516
Routt sucks. Always has. Name me 1 game changing play he has EVER made in his career?? Doesnt exist. Even Tommy Kelly makes a fairly big play every now and then. Routt NEVER does.
January 6th, 2012 at 11:52 am
And with Reggie McKenzie having to build a front office structure from scratch, why not give Hue a 2nd season to properly evaluate him after a normal off-season program where he can fine tune the offense and work with a new DC that will hopefully prevent our team from losing after averaging 26 points and gaining 500 yards over the last 2 must-win home games.
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Because that would essentially be a lame duck coaching scenario.
We don’t need that.
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There’s a 3rd season in his contract, it’s up to the Raiders to pick it up, not exactly a lame duck but we might as well pick it up now if we’re gonna keep him, it was an Al contract so it can’t be worth too much money in case they fire him after next season.
January 6th, 2012 at 11:52 am
At least Routt PLAYED Dakota.
DMAC is a spoiled quitter.
January 6th, 2012 at 11:53 am
Routt doesn’t suck, but he’s overpayed and possibly a #2 CB. We still need that #1 CB.
January 6th, 2012 at 11:54 am
Routt is a solid #2 CB making the money of a #1 shutdown CB.
January 6th, 2012 at 11:54 am
Method To My Madness Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 11:45 am
RaiderPunk you’re such a fkin btch…oh yeah and Raider staying in Oakland and never going to play at Homo Farmer’s Field!
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You seem to be obsessed with misplaced homosexual taunting.
Is there something about your lifestyle you’d like to share?
January 6th, 2012 at 11:55 am
Name one game changing play Nnamdi made in 7 years as a Oakland Raider.
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Forrest Hump Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 11:52 am
516
Routt sucks. Always has. Name me 1 game changing play he has EVER made in his career?? Doesnt exist. Even Tommy Kelly makes a fairly big play every now and then. Routt NEVER does.
January 6th, 2012 at 11:55 am
Forrest Hump Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 11:52 am
516
Routt sucks. Always has. Name me 1 game changing play he has EVER made in his career?? Doesnt exist. Even Tommy Kelly makes a fairly big play every now and then. Routt NEVER does.
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We judge players on “game changing” plays?? Since when?
There arent that many game changing plays made in a given game. Some games dont have any at all.
January 6th, 2012 at 11:55 am
517.MistaBrown Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 11:50 am
And you constantly criticized AL for making stupid expensive moves, funny
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Dakota Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 11:46 am
Fine, $20 million a year for Nnamdi, still a better deal than $10.5 for Routt……waaaaaaay better deal.
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I realize you wanted Nnamdi run out of town and advocated for Routt….hurts to be that wrong doesn’t it?
Pass D dropped from 2nd to 27th. Not worth $9 million dollars to prevent that drop?
Unless you want to take the fool’s claim that John Marshall had more to do with it….you know, John Marshall, who’s defenses generally were bottom of the barrell just like Chucky B’s defenses.
January 6th, 2012 at 11:56 am
I don’t believe we were that close to being a good team. As weak as the AFC west is there should have been no doubt about us kicking butt in this division. Since we didn’t, we are missing some serious pieces when it comes to being a good team.
AFC West WEAK! and we couldn’t even win that – we are a long ways from being a good team.
January 6th, 2012 at 11:56 am
520.Forrest Hump Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 11:52 am
516
Routt sucks. Always has. Name me 1 game changing play he has EVER made in his career?? Doesnt exist. Even Tommy Kelly makes a fairly big play every now and then. Routt NEVER does.
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Um, didn’t Routt have an INT in the KC game?
January 6th, 2012 at 11:56 am
If Nnamdi was such a standup guy that wanted to stay local to where he went to college he would have gave us a home grown discount and he and Routt would have been a decent combo but he wanted to get overpaid by Philly.
So Fk Nnamdi and the queer horse he rode in on, and you too if you miss Nnamdi.
January 6th, 2012 at 11:56 am
“At least Routt PLAYED Dakota.
DMAC is a spoiled quitter.”
DMAC could have played if he would have taken the pain killer shots…he refused to take the shots….. somewhere Jack Youngblood is wondering how pussified the players of today are!
January 6th, 2012 at 11:56 am
526.
He returned a pick for a TD against the Steelers the year he had 8 picks and went to the probowl the first time. We won 2 games that year, and he made the play to win one of them.
January 6th, 2012 at 11:56 am
YoungAmerican Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 11:54 am
Routt is a solid #2 CB making the money of a #1 shutdown CB.
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This.
But I do believe he has the ability to be that #1 CB..
January 6th, 2012 at 11:57 am
522.Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 11:52 am
At least Routt PLAYED Dakota.
DMAC is a spoiled quitter.
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McFadden contributed more to the Oakland Raiders in 7 games this season than Routt has contributed his entire fking career.
January 6th, 2012 at 11:57 am
We have no one on the D that can make game changing plays. Thats the problem. Bring in a game changer!
January 6th, 2012 at 11:57 am
530
Yeah he did, and instead of trying to return it he immediately started looking for the sideline to go to. Not a playmaker, sure doesnt deserve to get paid like one.
January 6th, 2012 at 11:58 am
Forrest Hump Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 11:56 am
526.
He returned a pick for a TD against the Steelers the year he had 8 picks and went to the probowl the first time. We won 2 games that year, and he made the play to win one of them.
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He didnt go to the Pro Bowl that year.
And if a INT is the guideline for a “game changing” play then Routt has made them.
January 6th, 2012 at 11:58 am
You know this how? Are you the team Doc ? In here talking out your ass like you know WTF happened!
POS
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Silverandblack666 Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 11:56 am
“At least Routt PLAYED Dakota.
DMAC is a spoiled quitter.”
DMAC could have played if he would have taken the pain killer shots…he refused to take the shots….. somewhere Jack Youngblood is wondering how pussified the players of today are
January 6th, 2012 at 11:59 am
JB Says:
When McKenzie played LB for the Raiders, was it a 3-4 or 4-3 configuration?.
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It was a 3-4.
Howie Long and Lyle Alzado-Sean Jones were at DE, Bill Pickel was the NT.
Millen and McKenzie were ILB’s.
January 6th, 2012 at 11:59 am
If you’re a rookie GM with many things to prove, would you stake your future on a head coach that only takes responsibility and accountability for the offense? Would you stake your future on a head coach whose best ability is a repertoire of BS that keeps repeating every week? Or would you stake your future by bringing your own people?
If I’m Reggie Mac, would I ask the question, if I get this job, am I supposed to keep HueSux as my head man on the field?
Just how many other NFL teams, in need of a head coach right now, would hire HueSux and put him in charge and in control of your organization?
Zero is the correct answer.
Let’s say I’m Reggie Mac, and I ask HueSux this question.
Hue, you really seem to care for the future Raiders organization , and the organization sees you as a decent OC, would you mind staying put as offensive coordinator/assistant head coach?
January 6th, 2012 at 11:59 am
No, he didnt.
January 6th, 2012 at 11:59 am
538,
Yes he did, and int returned for TD’s are game changers. The only one of those I’ve ever seen Routt make was against the Broncos when we were already up 3 scores. Nnamdi got thrown at 2x a game his last 3 years here, Routt had nothing but opportunities to make plays and never made them. Period.
January 6th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
People in here trying to recall an INT Nnamdi made 5 years ago that didn’t change the game at all.
lol
January 6th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
Routt occasionally makes a game-changing pick, but also allows game-changing TDs.
January 6th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
In 2006, he recorded his first two career interceptions against the Cleveland Browns. He got his third interception four weeks later against the Pittsburgh Steelers and returned it 24 yards for the first touchdown of his career. Though the team suffered through a 2-14 season, Asomugha’s 2006 campaign was his finest yet as he finished the season with 50 tackles (48 solo), eight interceptions, a sack, a forced fumble and one touchdown. His interception total tied him for second highest total in the National Football League along with four other players (including former Oakland Raiders cornerback Charles Woodson). After the season, Asomugha was invited to the Pro Bowl as an alternate but because of late notice he was not able to attend the annual all-star game.[7] He also received the Oakland Raiders “Commitment to Excellence” Award and was named the team’s Most Valuable Player. In addition, Asomugha was selected to Dr. Z Sports Illustrated 2006 All-Pro team[8] as well as The Associated Press 2006 All-Pro Team.[9]
January 6th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
Asomugha – 3× Pro Bowl selection (2008, 2009, 2010)
The year he had 8 picks?…2006.
January 6th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
532.Silverandblack666 Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 11:56 am
“At least Routt PLAYED Dakota.
DMAC is a spoiled quitter.”
DMAC could have played if he would have taken the pain killer shots…he refused to take the shots….. somewhere Jack Youngblood is wondering how pussified the players of today are!
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Okay Dr. 666….where did you get your MD again?
January 6th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
see post 546
January 6th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
If being selected as an alternate 2 days before the game counts they would have it listed in his Bio.
Anything else?
January 6th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
See post 550.
January 6th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Asomugha was selected as the Raiders Team Captain for the 2007 season. Opposing quarterbacks tested him only 31 times with a mere 10 completions the entire season. One NFL scout told Pro Football Weekly that Asomugha was thrown at “less than any defender in the last ten years” in 2007 [10] He finished the 2007 season with 34 tackles(32 solo), 1 interception and 7 breakups and was named a 2008 Pro Bowl alternate.
A free agent in the 2008 offseason, the Raiders placed the exclusive franchise tag on Asomugha on February 20, 2008.[11]
Asomugha covers Atlanta Falcons wide receiver Michael Jenkins at a home game on November 2, 2008.
Asomugha was again selected a team captain before the 2008 season. Opposing quarterbacks tested him only 27 times the entire season resulting in just 8 completions. Only perennial all-pros Randy Moss (3 receptions, 40 yards) and Tony Gonzalez (2 receptions, 34 yards) would catch more than one ball on him during the year. New England Patriots head coach Bill Belichick said Asomugha is “as complete a cornerback as he has seen all year”.[12] He finished the 2008 season with 40 tackles, 1 interception, 1 forced fumble, and 9 pass deflections. He received the Oakland Raiders “Commitment to Excellence” Award for the second time and was named the team’s 2008 Co-Most Valuable Player along with running back Justin Fargas. Asomugha was selected as a starter for the 2009 Pro Bowl. He was selected onto The Sporting News 2008 All-Pro Team [13] as well as the Pro Football Writers Association All-NFL Team for 2008.[14] Asomugha was also selected onto Peter King’s Sports Illustrated 2008 All-Pro team [15] as well as The Associated Press 2008 All-Pro Team.
On February 19, 2009 the Raiders re-signed Asomugha to a complex three-year deal that makes him the highest paid defensive back in NFL history. The first two years, worth $28.5 million, are fully guaranteed. In the third year of the contract, if Oakland wants to keep Asomugha, it must pay him the average of the top five highest-paid quarterbacks or $16.875 million, whichever is higher. If the Raiders fail to pick up the option, Asomugha will become a free agent with Oakland not having the ability to tag him again.[16]
A team captain again in 2009 and the NFL’s least targeted cornerback by an extremely wide margin, Asomugha was challenged by opposing quarterbacks only 27 times and allowed 13 completions the entire season. After his performance against the Houston Texans, head coach Gary Kubiak said “Asomugha is the best (corner) I’ve seen in a while throughout this league. He’s big, he’s fast, they put him out there on an island the whole game. He’s an exceptional player.” [17] Similar to the past three seasons, Asomugha finished the 2009 season with 34 tackles, 1 interception, and was second in the league with 8 tackles for loss from the cornerback position. Cleveland Browns defensive coordinator Rob Ryan said “The guy is truly unbelievable. He made himself the best corner in football by his work ethic, the way he studies tape, and he’s so smart.” [18] Following the 2009 season, Asomugha was selected as a starter for the 2010 Pro Bowl. Asomugha was selected onto The Sporting News 2009 All-Pro Team (2nd team) as well as The Associated Press 2009 All-Pro Team (2nd team). This would mark his third selection to both the Pro Bowl and All-Pro team in his seven-year career with the Oakland Raiders.
In 2010, Asomugha was selected as a member of the Fox Sports’s[19] and USA Today’s NFL All-Decade Team.[20]
The shutdown corner lived up to his title once again in the 2010 season. While shadowing the opposing teams top receiver most of the season, Asomugha was still targeted much less than any other cornerback in the NFL. Asomugha allowed just 10 receptions on the 27 passes thrown his way. Most important, Asomugha did not give up a touchdown all year.[21] “He has extraordinary speed – great speed,” Seahawks coach Pete Carroll said. “He’s exactly what you’re looking for in a press corner and about as good as you could hope a guy to be.” [22] When facing the Arizona Cardinals, All-Pro wide receiver Larry Fitzgerald said “The thing you see on tape for a man of his size, he has incredible hips and amazingly quick feet, and that’s just God given ability to be that tall and be able to move and cut and drive on balls the way he’s able to.”.[23] Following the 2010 season, Asomugha was selected as a starter for the 2011 Pro Bowl. Asomugha was selected onto ESPN John Clayton’s 2010 All-Pro Team[24] as well as Peter King’s Sports Illustrated 2010 All-Pro team.[25] Asomugha was also selected to the prestigious Associated Press 2010 All-Pro Team, his fourth selection as an All-Pro.
When has Routt done any of that????
NEVER!!!! He had as many penalties this year as Nnamdi had passes attempted against him most seasons. You all are just silly sometimes.
January 6th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
Wasn’t it Cris Carr that had the game winning pick?
January 6th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
Carl Weathers Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
Wasn’t it Cris Carr that had the game winning pick?
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Returned it something like 96 yards for a TD.
January 6th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
Hey, you guys have been wrong….that’s okay, today is a day to celebrate!
WE
FINALLY
HAVE
A
GM!!!!!!!!!
I have been waiting for this since about 1992!
January 6th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
You guys are killing me that are complaining about Hue. Everyone whined for years about all the Al Davis puppets and yes men. Hue shows some balls and talks about being a leader and everyone wants him fired. Lame!
January 6th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
His first touchdown came while playing as a cornerback, when he intercepted a pass by Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger and returned it 100 yards for a touchdown on October 29, 2006 at McAfee Coliseum. It was the second longest interception for a touchdown in Raiders history and helped seal an upset win over the defending Super Bowl champions.
I stand corrected…100 yards.
January 6th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
Forest, go play outside, under water or near a bridge, thanks
January 6th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
MistaB#tch
Go back to eating cocks, like you should be doing.
January 6th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
A real GM never would have handed those contracts to Kelly, Routt, Wimbley, Walker, MeAngelo etc, so I look forward to McKenzie having the talk with some of those overpaid losers on D who are still on the team and letting them know that there is a new sheriff in town, and if they think they can make that money on the open market, then there is the door, because your production does not come anywhere close to your pay.
January 6th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
does Mckenzie ask vet players such as Seymour what he thinks about Hue and what the feeling in the locker room is about Hue?
January 6th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
Pro Bowl selections can be missleading & meaningless
See R Seymour 2011.
The end
January 6th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
560
Spot on. No more ridiculous contracts, no more scholarships. Today is a new day. Celebrate, and stop the HueJack hate.
January 6th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
561.inonewordraider Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
does Mckenzie ask vet players such as Seymour what he thinks about Hue and what the feeling in the locker room is about Hue?
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The only question he should ask Seymour is “Are you willing to cut your salary down to $3 million dollars?”
January 6th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
Or Nnamdi.
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Dakota Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
A real GM never would have handed those contracts to Kelly, Routt, Wimbley, Walker, MeAngelo etc
January 6th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
553.Carl Weathers Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
Wasn’t it Cris Carr that had the game winning pick?
Yup, it was a 100 yard int! His pick was the one that (kinda) sealed it…remember, Ben marched the Steelers down the field again and almost tied it at the end! I forgot who made the game saving tackle!
January 6th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
541.zopi Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 11:59 am
Let’s say I’m Reggie Mac, and I ask HueSux this question.
Hue, you really seem to care for the future Raiders organization , and the organization sees you as a decent OC, would you mind staying put as offensive coordinator/assistant head coach?
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Name ONE time any HC has been demoted up a coordinator on the same team. When HCs are fired, they go elsewhere. Period.
Reggie may fire Hue, but I don’t think so. With what cause? Oh, I know the Hue Sux crowd has their reasons, but in the real world, 8-8 in your rookie year as HC with a struggling franchise gets you another year. A losing record gets you fired.
THEREFORE, since he knows he’d look like a draconian Ahole to coaches around the league for firing Hue, Reggie taking the job indicates he’s comfortable with Hue.
Here endeth Football 101. Jeez.
January 6th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
This is great stuff from Suggs on Tebow:
Depending on how wild-card weekend shakes out, the Ravens could host the Broncos on Jan. 15. But if that turns out to be the case, Baltimore OLB Terrell Suggs says his team won’t be asking the Almighty for any additional help.
“With all due respect, we don’t pray on the sideline,” said Suggs on ESPN’s First Take this week, taking a not-so-subtle dig at the frequent send-ups of Denver QB Tim Tebow.
“I mean we do — we give it up to God (just for) safety and health, but we’re gonna go out there and win that game. We don’t need our kicker to make a 62-yarder. I’m just saying. We don’t need guys to fall out of bounds and then we get to punt it back … we don’t need stuff like that to happen for us.”
That was a reference to the assistance Bears RB Marion Barber provided the Broncos in Denver’s 13-10 OT win in Week 14, the last game the team won before ending the year on a three-game slide.
“Our quarterback knows how to go out and win games,” said Suggs. “When our quarterback prays, he be like, ‘You know what, God, you know what, you sit on your couch and enjoy this. Thank you for blessing me and letting me wake up to play this game. I’m gonna impress you.’ ”
Suggs clearly didn’t seem impressed by Tebow. But despite an 8-8 record and year-end slump, the Broncos still hung on to the AFC West with the Raiders unable to take advantage to win their regular-season finale.
Suggs’ take?
“Once again, God had to save Tim Tebow and the Denver Broncos,” he said. “Like I said, they didn’t win. It’s simple — you win, you’re division champs. He couldn’t even give them two drives. They lost, 7-3. Two drives gives them 9-7.”
January 6th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
By Bill Williamson
It’s not official, but it appears Green Bay executive Reggie McKenzie will be hired as the new general manager of the Oakland Raiders. McKenzie is the first new decision maker in Oakland after the October death of owner Al Davis.
Here are some initial thoughts:
It’s no surprise. McKenzie emerged as the leading candidate shortly after Davis’ death. He clearly impressed the Raiders in his Wednesday interview. While they were expected to look at several other candidates, it was McKenzie all the way.
What about Hue Jackson? ESPN’s Adam Schefter reported that how much power McKenzie will have will be determined. But remember McKenzie was in a good situation in Green Bay and he would have had other opportunities in the future. He would have likely taken this only if the Raiders gave him significant say in the organization.
Where will it leave Jackson? He had been the primary decision maker since October and there have been whispers that perhaps a new general manager would want to bring in his own coach. The fact that the Raiders moved quickly to hire McKenzie may stoke that talk. Will Jackson be replaced? The odds are against it, but crazier things have happened.
McKenzie has Raider blood. He was a Raider linebacker from 1985-1988. Davis selected him in the 10th round of the draft nearly 27 years ago. Davis never knew he was choosing his replacement.
Former Davis associates Ron Wolf and Ken Herock have some influence with Mark Davis. Herock and Wolf recommended McKenzie to Davis and they were clearly listened to.
Are the Raiders going to become Green Bay West? It’s not the worst thing that could happen to the franchise. There has been talk that McKenzie could bring the Ron Wolf’s son, Eliot, with him.
Does this mean Darren Perry and Winston Moss, two Green Bay assistants, could be in the mix? They were mentioned as head coaching candidates last year. Maybe one of them emerges as a defensive coordinator candidate or as a head coach if a change is made. Green Bay’s key free agents are tight end Jermichael Finley, running back Ryan Grant and quarterback Matt Flynn. None of those players fill an immediate need for the Raiders.
When will he be able to start the job? Under league rules, McKenzie can’t be hired until after the Packers’ season. That may not be until February. However, the Packers can let McKenzie move on. I bet they will. He has been a good soldier and it’s not like they need him for next week’s game plan.
I’ve known McKenzie for several years. He is a friendly, quiet and laid back guy. Don’t expect him to be a swash buckler. He is a football man who will put in his work. He will not a be a headlines maker and he won’t make moves just to make moves. He will bring stability to the franchise and will do what it takes to improve the team.
January 6th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
The Hagan-Housh thing was another situation that Hue completely botched.
Housh did nothing, never played anything but WR, while Hagan was selling out covering punts and kicks.
Than Hue saying Al wanted younger players, but than doing this behind is back after Al dided, was fkn karma!!
Hue Jackson football = Nelly ball
January 6th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
565.MistaBrown Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
Or Nnamdi.
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Dakota Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
A real GM never would have handed those contracts to Kelly, Routt, Wimbley, Walker, MeAngelo etc
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No, a real GM would have had Nnamdi locked up long-term a couple of years ago.
January 6th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
Actually Suggs is a moron and should keep his mouth shut.
January 6th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
HIRE WINSTON!
January 6th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
i dont read the sunday comics any more, sullivans attempts at what ever it is he does in here are comedic enough.
January 6th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
Suggs is a hunter. Wish we had any player on D as good as him.
January 6th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
Hagan was active for 6 games covering kicks and punts. In those 6 games, zero returns for TD’s.
In the other 10 games, we gave up 3 returns for TD’s.
I don’t believe it to be coincidence.
January 6th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
We pay Wimbley more than the Ravens pay Suggs.
January 6th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
DMAC could have played three weeks ago but he did refuse the meds. He said in his very first year that’ve would never take the needle. Not to mention his injury looked like peanuts compared to Fords and Moores. DMAC barely rolled his little twig. Was walking fine even came out in the second half and many of us thought he would go back in. Moore could barely walk off the field and Ford needed a cart. 2 out of 3 made it back for games. One stood on the sideline yucking it up with team mates and a sh!t eating grin on his face.
January 6th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
576.Just Fire Baby Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
Hagan was active for 6 games covering kicks and punts. In those 6 games, zero returns for TD’s.
In the other 10 games, we gave up 3 returns for TD’s.
I don’t believe it to be coincidence.
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Lol…nice spin! I love it Vegas!
January 6th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
Suggs is a helluva player.
January 6th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
AL didn’t want to lock him up long term he chose to franchise him. I’m ok with that. It was time for him to go and get that big contract and fall flat on his face, and he did.
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Dakota Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
565.MistaBrown Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
Or Nnamdi.
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Dakota Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
A real GM never would have handed those contracts to Kelly, Routt, Wimbley, Walker, MeAngelo etc
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No, a real GM would have had Nnamdi locked up long-term a couple of years ago.
January 6th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
Suggs was absolutely right though! But his O ain’t really anything to write home to mamma about either!
January 6th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
@552 Forrest. Granted those stats are good for Namndi, but the rest of the defense those years was so inept that teams just ignored his side and attacked everywhere else. Also, we were so bad at stopping the run that our pass defense didnt have to be tested as much. ALl those things factor into those “shutdown” stats!
January 6th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
Al never wanted Hagan to make the team either. He made himself un-cutable by catching everything in sight and playing great special teams. Housh was brought in as a security blanket for CP, and I agree, that couldve been a tipping point in the locker room because Hue always talked about production being what matters. Doesnt mean we should fire Hue. Let the man learn from his mistakes.
January 6th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
Only an idiot would take on God.
Leave that ish alone man and play football…do your talking on the field. Go ahead and knock the lights out of Teebow but why go after God?
January 6th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
I’d like to see if Wimbley can be more consistent with a real RDE across from him, Shaughnessy at LE, and Houston playing 3-tech DT.
Right now the Raiders have problems bringing pressure consistently. Kelly and Seymour disappear for entire games, and it’s not like their contributions ever show up against the run.
January 6th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
Suggs is a real LB, the definition of a boar hunter.
January 6th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
MistaBrown Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
Only an idiot would take on God.
Leave that ish alone man and play football…do your talking on the field. Go ahead and knock the lights out of Teebow but why go after God?
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He didn’t. Learn to read.
Not that the way humans perceive “God” is real anyway.
January 6th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
578.morilla Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
DMAC could have played three weeks ago but he did refuse the meds. He said in his very first year that’ve would never take the needle. Not to mention his injury looked like peanuts compared to Fords and Moores. DMAC barely rolled his little twig. Was walking fine even came out in the second half and many of us thought he would go back in. Moore could barely walk off the field and Ford needed a cart. 2 out of 3 made it back for games. One stood on the sideline yucking it up with team mates and a sh!t eating grin on his face.
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Morilla, come on man, even Jacoby Ford came out and said McFadden’s injury was MUCH worse than his. Ford made it back a couple of weeks ago, and McFadden, with a much greater injury, was ready three weeks later allegedly.
You want to rush our best player back and then lose him for his career? That is just dumb.
January 6th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
L.A. Raider Dave Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
@552 Forrest. Granted those stats are good for Namndi, but the rest of the defense those years was so inept that teams just ignored his side and attacked everywhere else. Also, we were so bad at stopping the run that our pass defense didnt have to be tested as much. ALl those things factor into those “shutdown” stats!
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Part of that “everywhere else” includes going right at #26 over and over and over. And #26 not making plays over and over and over. Thats all I’m saying. Then last year in a contract year Routt FINALLY plays worth a damn, and Al shows him the bank. I just hated it, and still do. Nnamdi is 2x the player, and 5x the man Routt is, and it was a mistake to let him go.
January 6th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
MistaBrown Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
AL didn’t want to lock him up long term he chose to franchise him. I’m ok with that. It was time for him to go and get that big contract and fall flat on his face, and he did.
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Did Nnamdi have 16 penalties and give up 6-8 TDs this year? Routt did…..
January 6th, 2012 at 12:20 pm
And AL told you this over cole slaw and tea, right?
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Forrest Hump Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
Al never wanted Hagan to make the team either
January 6th, 2012 at 12:20 pm
Sacks arent the defining stat in making an impact for a pass rushing DT.
Kelly & Seymour consistently pushed the pocket back.
And still finished near the top of their position in sacks.
Seymour when healthy was a monster.
The problem is they both play the same position, but are being played next to each other. Nothing more, nothing less.
Dont overreact and make outlandish statements.
January 6th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
If Al were coming back, I would be 100% behind keeping Hue.
But this is a new era, and we need to quit thinking so damn short-term.
Thinking short-term, like “ahhhhhh…..we were 8-8, let him learn, blah blah blah” is how we ended up franchising Kamerion fkn Wimbley and trading a bunch of picks for Carson Palmer.
Let Reggie build this thing, and if takes going 7-9 in 2012, so be it.
Hue hasn’t stayed anywhere for 3-4 years, his whole NFL coaching life. He isn’t a long-term answer.
January 6th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
Go look and get back to me.
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Dakota Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
Did Nnamdi have 16 penalties and give up 6-8 TDs this year? Routt did…..
January 6th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 11:42 am
No one really knows anything about Mark Davis give the guy credit for not promoting himself throughout the transition.
I personally like how he is quietly behind the scenes no press no quotes no interviews.
We don’t really know much about him except he is a classically handsome guy, yes I look like him, people at my office call me Mark Davis.
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Mark, is that you???
January 6th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
Take it for whatever it is worth…I have Asomugha’s Authentic jersey (Got it as a gift), and I liked Aso when he was here, but I still believe that he was way overrated! He was a good corner, but…
January 6th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
Na Dakota, I know. We need DMAC. I just wish he wasn’t so fragile. It was just such a frustrating situation.
I hope we get T. jones on track because we need speed for when he’s out.
January 6th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
Long time lurker/First time poster
Been a Raiders fan since 1980, so I remember the glory years. I just wanted to share what I’m feeling right now with my brothers with the Raider Nation. And yes, it’s a nation wherever you are.
Growing up with a single mother, I didn’t experience the love of a father. But when I saw Mark Davis shed tears after the Texan game, I felt Mark’s loss of his father. Whatever I felt about Al Davis at that moment was replaced with admiration of being first a father to his son. I now know sincerely that Al loved Mark. I can only hope that I could love my son as much as Al loved his.
Today, Mark is honoring his father’s legacy and a father’s love by bringing back the Raiders to their glory years in hiring Reggie McKenzie.
It’s a great day for the Raider Nation.
January 6th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
Forrest Lump, you are posting straight out your ass.
January 6th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
D-Mac = Andrew Bynum
So talented, you want to hope and pray it finally clicks, but the only thing clicking is his knee caps when he walks.
January 6th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
594,
Because he wanted to be a HC and wouldnt settle. Firing our HC and starting all over is short term. Keeping continuity, (at least on offense) is thinking long term.
and 592
Part of our Wednesday routine. You never got an invite?
January 6th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
Hue coached like a rookie Head Coach and made the mistakes that should be expected. The whole crap about taking the blame each week only to unload on the D after the last game was weak.
Coincidently, Tom Coughlinwas at a point where the giants had just lost to the Skins and were on a 4 game slide. Coughlin comes out and blasts EVERYONE in harsh fashion. They respond by winning out and beating their rival at home for the division title.
If Hue is axed, anybody have an idea for a replacement? Someone with HC experience? This is a new era in Raider football, buckle up!
January 6th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
DeuceDeuce Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 12:20 pm
Sacks arent the defining stat in making an impact for a pass rushing DT.
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It’s not about stats. It’s about two guys who give inconsistent effort and play undisciplined football. When you see offensive guards and fullbacks engaging the Raider LBs at the second level of the defense? That’s on the defensive tackles.
They constantly overpursue, trying to get to the QB. The RB draw gets them every time. Cutback runners have a field day with the defensive line, leading them out of position then busting through a gaping hole right where the middle of the defensive line should be.
Sacks aren’t everything. That’s why Kelly and Seymour’s contributions are overrated.
January 6th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
So talented, you want to hope and pray it finally clicks, but the only thing clicking is his knee caps when he walks.
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Hehe, sounds like me walking up the stairs.
January 6th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
MistaBrownStain
Just been watching your posts over the years and taking notes at ineptitude.
January 6th, 2012 at 12:25 pm
Firing our HC and starting all over is short term.
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How is “starting all over” short-term?
Whenever you start all over at anything, it is a long-term vision.
January 6th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
384.J Hill Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 10:12 am
What went through your head when Bynum pulled up lame on that half-ending shot?
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LOL!
What hit me upside the head harder was when dude said Bynum only had 2 assists ….. THIS SEASON.
Still not adding Gasoft to the deal, and still not taking to Turkeyloos contract.
PG is the bigger need.
January 6th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
You been taking notes over the years from a blog?
lol
I had no idea this was like remedial adult school…
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Forrest Hump Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
MistaBrownStain
Just been watching your posts over the years and taking notes at ineptitude.
January 6th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
607
Its short term because this offense has been under Hue for 2 years now, and that continuity counts for a lot in the NFL.
January 6th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
598.morilla Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
Na Dakota, I know. We need DMAC. I just wish he wasn’t so fragile. It was just such a frustrating situation.
I hope we get T. jones on track because we need speed for when he’s out.
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Hey me too, but players have had injuries early in their careers and then overcome them (Charles Woodson anyone?).
The reward of keeping McFadden on the team is much more than the risk of letting him stay. Best case he returns to the form he demonstrated for nearly a year and a half and we have an amazing player. Worst case, he doesn’t and we are out some cap space. It is not like he is tradeable right now, so just keep him and hope for the best. Just have a reliable backup RB as an insurance policy.
Jhill, Bynum is a different story. Much larger percentage of cap and one of only 5 players on the court at once. Way to risky to keep him.
January 6th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
609
Obviously I was being sarcastic. I figured you’d pick up on it. Sorry for over-estimating your intelligence. Wont happen again, I promise.
January 6th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
608.J Hill Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
384.J Hill Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 10:12 am
What went through your head when Bynum pulled up lame on that half-ending shot?
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LOL!
What hit me upside the head harder was when dude said Bynum only had 2 assists ….. THIS SEASON.
Still not adding Gasoft to the deal, and still not taking to Turkeyloos contract.
PG is the bigger need.
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Turkey is playing pretty damned well this year it appears….I’d take him if we could do an Artest/Bynum/picks deal for Howard and Turkey.
January 6th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
Sirius Nfl radios says McKenzie has signed a contract..
January 6th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
The PG issues would be lessoned with Howard’s help D. no one is scared of Bynum in the Paint.
January 6th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
Hey me too, but players have had injuries early in their careers and then overcome them (Charles Woodson anyone?).
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From 1998-2001, Charles Woodson started every game but one.
January 6th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
This offense wouldn’t miss a beat if Hue left.
He is not God’s gift to offenses.
I trust that McKenzie can find OC’s and HC’s better than Hue Jackson, and if he can’t, he is the wrong man for the job.
January 6th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
Amen!
January 6th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
DeuceDeuce Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 12:20 pm
Sacks arent the defining stat in making an impact for a pass rushing DT.
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It’s not about stats. It’s about two guys who give inconsistent effort and play undisciplined football. When you see offensive guards and fullbacks engaging the Raider LBs at the second level of the defense? That’s on the defensive tackles.
They constantly overpursue, trying to get to the QB. The RB draw gets them every time. Cutback runners have a field day with the defensive line, leading them out of position then busting through a gaping hole right where the middle of the defensive line should be.
Sacks aren’t everything. That’s why Kelly and Seymour’s contributions are overrated.
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I second that!
Time to get rid of the fugazzi’s.
Kelly and Seymour must go!
Move Houston inside and pursue another DT either draft or FA.
January 6th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
This is the happiest day for Raider fans since they beat the Titans in the Championship game!
For the first time, EVER, we will have a General Manager. Not just some schmuck, promoted from the scouting department, but a key cog within the most successful organization in the NFL at the time.
I am actually excited for this team’s future and for the 2012 draft. Even without high draft picks, I can’t wait to see what type of guys Reggie goes after.
Oh what a habbyday, what a happy happy day!
January 6th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
If Bynum can avoid injury. I would rather keep him over Howard. Lakers need a PG desperatly.
January 6th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
QUESTION:
since Reggie Mac was the ‘Director of Football Operations’ for Green Bay, is he free to leave their organization today?
I know coaches have to wait until the season is over, but can still come to some sort of verbal agreement. Is it different with upper management?
It’s not like Aaron Rodgers’ game would tank (knowing that they might lose Reggie, Shaun Herock & Eliot Wolf)
The players and coaches wouldn’t even notice these guys in suits were gone until the offseason, right?
January 6th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
new post
January 6th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
@YoungAmerican
Is Seymour too old and slow to move back to DE? Or would he just be expensive back-up?
If Houston is the 3-tech?
January 6th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
617
It would because CP was brought here to run HUE’S offense. And because when learning a new offense there is an adjustment period. Why do you think the teams that are consistently good have the same system year to year?? When Mike Tomlin went to the Steelers he was a 4-3 guy. Did he try to change it or go with what works and is the Pittsburgh way?? He went with what works because continuity is what works in the NFL. Playing fast means playing off instinct, not thinking about assignments.
January 6th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
It is on the Raiders official website,
“Raiders Have reached An Agreement With Reggie McKenzie.”
January 6th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
Has that filthy Hue the HC been fired yet ?? Did anyone hear he was caught slow kissing with Jerry Sandusky in the shower ???
Attenuate Stank AL’s taint: purge and burn everything AL brought about in the organization in the last 10 yrs.
January 6th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
GG posted that McKenzie would be free to leave if he had the power over the team and on draft day…I think they are working out the detais, but it’s probably Hue’s…
January 6th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
“Reggie McKenzie to become the General Manager of the Oakland Raiders,” on the Raiders official website;
lest their be any specualtion on an alternate title.
January 6th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
I hope that thing about Reggie Mac being a “laid back guy,” doesn’t translate to rewarding incompetence.
The time has come for deep transformation, to lay down the law, stop the excuses, get the best people for the job. HueSux is not, Hue would not get another NFL head coaching job if he was let go.
The interview Hue got from the 49rs was a fraud, window-dressing for the Rooney rule, there was no way Hue would get hired over Harbaugh. Would any of you Hue supporters hire him over Harbaugh?
Why would the Raider Nation be content with an incompetent mediocre head coach, when you have the chance to get better? Haven’t we had enough mediocrity. Enough already with Mr. Davis’ pet projects.
So, why would fired head coaches accept a minor role with another organization, but not with the one they claim to really care for? Ego, pride?
January 6th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
Raiders have hte GM; now it is time to bring in the quarterback; Mr. is a Raider! Print that Jerry & Steve.
January 6th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
“Mr. Reggie Mckenzie, be yourself and know that you have earned the Raiders’ general manager position,” Ron Jensen, of Spokane, WA.
January 6th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
I’d like to see if Wimbley can be more consistent with a real RDE across from him, Shaughnessy at LE, and Houston playing 3-tech DT.
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ShoNasty at LDE????
You think he is strong enough to hold the edge on that side?
I like Houston there in running situations.
January 6th, 2012 at 12:49 pm
Mr. Flynn will be the Raiders starting qb!
January 6th, 2012 at 12:52 pm
I would like to see the Raiders move Houston to the inside and start Bryant alongside him; this would mean thought that we would need to get another defensive end for our 4-3 front; I’m not sure if having Houston, Bryant, Shaughnessy would be a great3-4, three man front.
January 6th, 2012 at 12:52 pm
634.RaiderRetribution Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 12:49 pm
Mr. Flynn will be the Raiders starting qb!
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Stop posting please…
January 6th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
Anybody up for the idea of sitting DMC for the first 7 games so his feet can withstand the last 9-12?
MOVE TO A 3-4 REGGIE!!
January 6th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
All you Hue haters are morons or just became Raider Fans.
We lost 13 in a row to SD before HUE
We had 7 years of 11 losses or more before HUE
We are undefeated in our division on the road because of HUE.
We have aReal QB because of HUE
The D, Al Davis, the Penalties were all inherited. Give him next year with Reggie, a new D coordinator, Carson an offseason and we are good to go.
And yes, someone would pick up Hue for A head coaching position, cleveland, Tampa Bay, just to name a few.
Go Raiders!!
January 6th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
Our offense sucked for a decade so Hue must be doing something right? When was the last time we saw the “vertical” passing game in Oakland?
Freakin’ morons who are Hue haters.
I guess most of you like 2-14 or 4-12 seasons?
Morons….
January 6th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
If the team you owne has been losing for years and years and you are starting a new era,do you keep a coach that shows up at the press conference after a loss in a John Gotti suit?
January 6th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
# 303Raider Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
All you Hue haters are morons or just became Raider Fans.
We lost 13 in a row to SD before HUE
We had 7 years of 11 losses or more before HUE
We are undefeated in our division on the road because of HUE.
We have aReal QB because of HUE
The D, Al Davis, the Penalties were all inherited. Give him next year with Reggie, a new D coordinator, Carson an offseason and we are good to go.
And yes, someone would pick up Hue for A head coaching position, cleveland, Tampa Bay, just to name a few.
Go Raiders!!
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Dude, don’t waste your fingers typing..I have been saying it for the past 3 months..Some people don’t like Hue for whatever of a thousand petty reasons. F’it..the fact remains that a new era has begun.
January 6th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
What up Raider fans and others!
1st.. to Mark Davis.. thank you for your rapid, wise choice of Reggie McKenzie. This positive move takes away a little of the sting from last week.
2nd.. I think Hue stays.. yes there was some schitty playcalling and yes theres the ego, but I think Reggie will get control of that.
3rd.. Reggie, please fix the defense.
January 6th, 2012 at 3:29 pm
Looks like al davis may have left a ” to do list” ..for his son… open letter when I die”.. signed al davis.. inside letter read.. hire Reggie McKenzie! !
January 24th, 2012 at 6:30 pm
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