More Jackson network updates
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Sunday, January 8th, 2012 at 1:35 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Keeping track of Hue Jackson reports from various NFL analysts:
Charley Casserly of The NFL Today on CBS said he spoke with both Jackson and his agent, and that Jackson has not been fired. Casserly said Kennard McGuire, the agent for both Jackson and new general manager Reggie McKenzie, told him McKenzie “planned to come in this week and evaluate the entire organization.”
Jay Glazer of The NFL on Fox reported McKenzie was to meet with Jackson Monday and that it was his feeliing Jackson would remain as head coach.
The Raiders made no announcements Sunday and aren’t expected to say anything until Tuesday, when McKenzie is introduced at a 2 p.m. press conference.
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January 8th, 2012 at 1:39 pm
There’s nothing necessarily wrong with short receivers, look what Marino did in that Air Coryell system with his two main short speedy wideouts.
Ford and Moore are more playmakers, making plays on the ball, reel in deep throws, having to make sensational leaps, tracking balls overhead, running good deep routes. Murphy is probably the next best in that regard. DHB is more reliable running 5-10 yard curl and in-routes with passes into the bread-basket.
He’s actually making a case to be the Z not the X receiver that he was drafted to be.
January 8th, 2012 at 1:41 pm
Hue needs to go…
classless, self promoter who blames it all on others.
No LEADERSHIP ability what so ever…
January 8th, 2012 at 1:41 pm
I disagree. For one, Murphy is done. Second, why does every try to qualify what DHB can do? He averaged 15.2ypc. Last time I checked that is a deep threat.
January 8th, 2012 at 1:41 pm
Giants win 4 of last 5 with only loss to Green Bay by 3
Raiders lose 4 of last 5 with only win due to Seymours two blocked kicks.
One coach known for being too much of a hardazzz
The other known for ESPN spreads showing off his manicure
January 8th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
God,I hate both these teams.This is painful.
January 8th, 2012 at 1:43 pm
DHB is the starter going forward…just like he was the starter for the entire year.
January 8th, 2012 at 1:44 pm
Its just my preference. I don’t like small WRs starting for the Raiders. I would prefer a presense on the line – a big body threat. I think QBs prefer the same. Calvin Johnsons, Larry Fitzjeralds, et al.
Think about how inefficient we were those 1-2 weeks we went away from DHB and went more with Moore & Ford. It was way too small and it was not that good relatively speaking (you can easily jam small WRs).
January 8th, 2012 at 1:45 pm
Lets go steelers!! They about to score already
January 8th, 2012 at 1:45 pm
You’ll never find a QB who does less with more than Matt Ryan. A damn good O-line, Julio Jones, Roddy White, Tony Gonzales, Harry Douglass, Michael Turner, Jason Snelling, Jaquizz Rodgers, and they STILL get shut out??? Matt Ryan sucks!!,
January 8th, 2012 at 1:45 pm
Just want them to knock the teblows out the playoffs
January 8th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
So HJ got a manicure.He is entitled to do personal things.That sounds like nitpicking to me-looking for any reason to dislike the guy.Knock his coaching if you will,but get over what he does in his free time.
January 8th, 2012 at 1:48 pm
LAKE SHOW HOMIES STAND UP N REPRESENT
Yo the competition is getting mad fierce here at the beach volleyball court.
One of my shorties (cross eyed stripper from Spearmint Rhino) just squirted out her tampon diving for a save.
Anyway we’re boarding the Reggae Party Boat in an hour to get back in time to watch the Lake Show “Take a Wizz on the Grizz” (patent pending on my new hot phrase).
Yo, now we gots to pump up the Coolio, word
January 8th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
BTW,whatever happened to the MUP list or whatever it was.Who should be considered the MUP of the year-Moore,DHB,or someone else?
January 8th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
whatever DHB does thats productive in the n.f.l. from here on out is fantastic!! all u guys said he was a bust & should be traded. he has exceeded all expectations already then .
January 8th, 2012 at 1:55 pm
This from the Qb talent evaluator that is still sucking on JaMarcus’s giblets.
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RaiderDebo Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 1:45 pm
You’ll never find a QB who does less with more than Matt Ryan
January 8th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
Amidst the doom and gloom pessimism resulting from the Raider implosion down the stretch and the dreadful state of the defense, it should be noted that there were some positive developments this season.
The emergence of DHB as a legitimate WR.
Wiz and DMoore played well and appear to be solid additions.
But the most important development was that the Raiders moved away from the bottom tier, scrub of a QB, Jason Campbell.
This was an essential move.
Whether or not Carson Palmer pans out remains to be seen.
There is deserved skepticism about the Palmer trade. There is a widespread belief that the Raids overpaid for Palmer and that he might ultimately fail to be the franchise QB the Raids desperately need – but the move away from Campbell was an absolute necessity.
Raider fans should hope that another NFL team is foolish enough to sign JC and give him significant playing time. We can use the compensatory pick.
January 8th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
Stats arent everything, judging from observation. There are limitations there.
Am a fan of DHB from the start, just posing the hypothetical of trading value to focus on drafting D.
January 8th, 2012 at 1:57 pm
u can have short recievers if they are exceptional./ dont think that j.ford is tho. plenty lateral quickness but he aint no wes welker or steve smith .
January 8th, 2012 at 2:00 pm
im hopig raiders draft or trade for a decent backup or keep jason campbell.. every team needs two above average qbs in the n.f.l. and two good running backs. raiders strongly need a rush defensive end and sum tough d.b.s
January 8th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
lefty12 Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
So HJ got a manicure.He is entitled to do personal things.That sounds like nitpicking to me-looking for any reason to dislike the guy.Knock his coaching if you will,but get over what he does in his free time.
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you can delete my last sentence then….
message doesn’t change on Hue Jackson.
January 8th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
Does Hue Jackson start DHB?
When Moore and Ford were both healthy…he had DHB on ice.
I personally start DHB because he produced AND stayed healthy. And production is all that matters. and you can’t be productive from the tub
January 8th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
SNB
Does starting DHB limit your play calling? Sure he played well and stayed healthy. But who do you want to air the ball out to? DHB or Ford/Moore?
January 8th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
The best thing about DHB is his durability.
Moore we can’t say yet because he hit the rookie wall, hamstrings are always things that hit rookie WRs. Ford of late has been injury-prone. Schilens is always. Murphy has started being injury-prone all over the place.
January 8th, 2012 at 2:08 pm
is there a legitamite reason hagan was cut ?
January 8th, 2012 at 2:08 pm
This is killing me. Steelers look vulnerable and banged up. A single play goes different in one of multiple games (including games the Broncos won) and this game is in Oakland right now, possibly with McFadden in the lineup.
January 8th, 2012 at 2:08 pm
We are lucky to have 3 good WRs in Ford,Moore,and DHB.When healthy all can be productive and help the team.If 1 is doubled the others can pick up the slack.I will agree that at times HJ tried to get too cute with them though.
January 8th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
We need to take Moore off of returns. He’s not that good and doesnt need to get hurt.
January 8th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
SnB
wouldn’t you have been on the “Fire Coughlin” bandwagon last year after their huge collapse, and the season-ending, playoff-killing loss to DeSean Jackson and the Eagles?
January 8th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
Check out Rivers being mic’d up last weekend against us. He calls out that stupid safety blitz and then talks about how easy it is to see and beat. Sorry Brez, you gotta go.
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-films-sound-efx/09000d5d825b7ec1/Sound-FX-Philip-Rivers
January 8th, 2012 at 2:10 pm
Chris in NY,
There is no woulda, coulda, shoulda on losing 4 of 5.
Its all about production and execution and this Raider team didn’t do it.
So enjoy the game
January 8th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
alex7 Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
SnB
wouldn’t you have been on the “Fire Coughlin” bandwagon last year after their huge collapse, and the season-ending, playoff-killing loss to DeSean Jackson and the Eagles?
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Nope….Coughlin has an outstanding resume and track record.
Hue Jackson has a bunch of question marks.
January 8th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
I’d keep the full receiving corps in tact, other than probably TJ Housh. Murphy was solid his first two years and started to get back to form by season’s end. Chaz is capable of doing some good things. Moore, DHB and Ford are no-brainers. Not really worried about the WR position at all. Maybe bring in a guy who is an ace special teamer and can be our No. 6 WR. That’s about it.
As for starters, I think Moore is a lock and I’d lean toward DHB as the other starter with Ford being used creatively and getting plenty of touches as well.
January 8th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
greasygoat Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
Check out Rivers being mic’d up last weekend against us. He calls out that stupid safety blitz and then talks about how easy it is to see and beat. Sorry Brez, you gotta go.
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So why couldn’t Hue see it either.
He’s the damn head coach…not just the offensive coordinator
January 8th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
McKenzie needs to make a decision one way or the other next week……..then we can turn our attention to free agency…..ignoring the draft for obvious reasons
January 8th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
Dorian
I liked Hagan, but he was about the 7th target on offense after the starting 3 WRs, DMac, Reece, and the TE.
For a 7th target, I can see why you’d cater to a veteran QB’s previous receiver who knows the system better, being that neither was going to make a huge contribution.
January 8th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
We need to take Moore off of returns. He’s not that good and doesnt need to get hurt.
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I agree with that. I think it’s time to put Ford on punt returns.
January 8th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
SnB,
so you fire Coughlin after his 4-12 first season.
Got it. Our team was basically an expansion team the last decade.
January 8th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
GG Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 1:39 pm
He’s actually making a case to be the Z not the X receiver that he was drafted to be.
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Absolutely, but it still hurts to give up a 1st rounder for a second read X…
January 8th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
Or I should say..Use a first round pick on a second read X
January 8th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
Jesus..I mean Z
January 8th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
Denver: 8 total yards in the first quarter.
And we’re not in. What a shame.
January 8th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
lol, d/w i get you
January 8th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
This game is a NFL embarrassement
January 8th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
SnB Offense Defense Specialteams Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
greasygoat Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
Check out Rivers being mic’d up last weekend against us. He calls out that stupid safety blitz and then talks about how easy it is to see and beat. Sorry Brez, you gotta go.
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So why couldn’t Hue see it either.
He’s the damn head coach…not just the offensive coordinator
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I agree with you. But Hue was never a defensive mastermind. Head coaches don’t have to be great at offense and defense. Defensive coordinators should be able to dial up more than one obvious blitz package.
January 8th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
My brain is still cheese from Friday night with a buddy I aint seen in 15 years..
He is a self defense expert and we got hammered till 4 AM and finished the night off practicing knife wielding assault defense..
January 8th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
hagan was so very obviously a playmaker. he was a 7th target cus the dumb coaches put him there . u need depth in the n.f.l. we need hagan and another running back cus of injury possibilities
January 8th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
My main problem with HJ is he kept Bresnahan as DC when he should have been fired.But,as I said yesterday,maybe he wasn’t allowed to replace him or there wasn’t anyone to replace him with on the staff.
January 8th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
good post greasygoat.
To think a rookie O-oriented HC with 3 QBs in one season should have taken over play-calling duties on D also…
silly.
January 8th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 1:43 pm
DHB is the starter going forward…just like he was the starter for the entire year.
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When you’ve been at the bottom for so long, there is a tendency to start to settle for less than excellence. It’s like a man lost in the desert, who hasn’t eaten in days. A couple of pieces of dry bread and water seem like a delicacy at that point.
Well, we have a top notch GM now, that along with new owner Mark Davis is over seeing the entire organization. There is no longer a need to simply SETTLE for mediocre, or even average.
My point is this:
Until Darius Heyward Bey learns to catch the football with his HANDS instead of just trapping it against his arms and stomach, there is no way in HELL that he should be a STARTING WR on our team.
Did he improve…YES! He did some good things for us, but if we are truly committed to EXCELLENCE, DHB is not there yet.
I want EXCELLENCE at ALL SKILLED POSITIONS, and a never say die attitude at all other positions.
It’s time to change the entire mindset of this team.
January 8th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
yeah Lefty,
there were no internal DC candidates on our staff.
Kinda stuck with what you have. Can’t bring in new system/coach/terminology half-way through an NFL season.
January 8th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
lefty12 Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
My main problem with HJ is he kept Bresnahan as DC when he should have been fired.But,as I said yesterday,maybe he wasn’t allowed to replace him or there wasn’t anyone to replace him with on the staff.
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He was just giving Chuck enough rope to hang himself..which he absolutely did..fashioned the noose, stuck his big fat chick head through it and kicked over the chair…
January 8th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
Mind you, as a Z he’d be the first read most of the time, apart from designed plays where the X or Y are the designated receivers.
What i meant btw, he’s making a case to be the possession guy, running the short middle stuff, especially as he’s the biggest and most physical out of Moore/Ford/himself.
still not completely reliable running routes, like that slant he ran from the Z the other week when he gave up the inside to the CB instead of fighting for the inside, and it almost ended up an INT.
January 8th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
dorian,
honestly though, Hagan wasn’t going to cut into the playing-time of DHB, Ford, or Moore.
He wasn’t going to cut into targets for DMac, the TE, or Reece.
No one questioned where he was on the depth chart after week 2.
January 8th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
Not sure what you mean by that Lefty. HJ didnt want Bresnahan, he wanted Thurman but we were denied an interview by Rex Ryan. So we were stuck with Chuck. Had to roll with him in a shortened season.
January 8th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
Bresnahan was to be the LB coach
January 8th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
The Spirit if Al Davis is live and well.
January 8th, 2012 at 2:24 pm
That hit by Harrison is what is so wrong with these penalties these days.
You hit a guy up top, and it is a flag, even though 90% of the time the WR gets right up.
But you can go at the guys knee’s, f up his career, and it is a “clean” hit.
Paralysis by analysis, as I call it.
January 8th, 2012 at 2:24 pm
Denver: 8 total yards in the first quarter.
And we’re not in. What a shame.
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Nope. Not a shame.
That same Mule team beat the Raids, in our house.
We didn’t deserve a berth.
January 8th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
#49 is what i was alluding to with all this. armchair im guessing then would be brutal and trade DHB for an early 2nd or late 1st to focus on D acquisition, like a monster NT for instance.
January 8th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
Been out of town:
Sooooooooooo Happppppy about the McKenzie hire, and how fast it happened.
Drafted by Al Davis, Mentored by Ron Wolf. It don’t get no better.
I can finally rest assured.
January 8th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
49.alex7 Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
good post greasygoat.
To think a rookie O-oriented HC with 3 QBs in one season should have taken over play-calling duties on D also…
silly.
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Not to mention the owner/GM dies and he has all the org stuff to run as well.
January 8th, 2012 at 2:26 pm
fire hue for who tho ? if we aint gettin bill cowher or the titans boring ex head coach, then who yall want .. cus umm .. the reasons yall want hue fired are dumb … like uhh,, winston moss will make mistakes too idiots!!!!!!!!!!!!! a rookie head coach has a little wiggle room dang!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
January 8th, 2012 at 2:26 pm
Demaryus Thomas will be a Dwayne Bowe clone by next year.
January 8th, 2012 at 2:26 pm
JFB
Just got back from Vegas. 1st time since 1985 and the Tommie Hearns Roberto Duran Fight.
Wow, what a place!!!!!!!!!!!!!
January 8th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
Hagan was not a playmaker.He was at the bottom of the depth chart.Our WRs weren’t a problem.We couldn’t stop a decent high school offense and you are whining about the #6 WR being cut.
January 8th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
whiners can stop whining.
Broncos earned the West.
January 8th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
i mean whoever the raiders get if they fire hue . u mean to tell me that they arent goin to make sum kinda dumb call in the 3rd quarter of a loss against whoever in week 6 ? u tellin me the new def coordinator will be fantastic and if their not ,, ohh its the head coachs fault ?
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what is hues fault other than bringin in housh and not signing another running back ?
January 8th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
Ha, just realized the Broncos run an Al-Davis power-run with deep bombs offense.
What if it gets BETTER as Tebow, Decker, and Thomas develop?
January 8th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
GG Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
Mind you, as a Z he’d be the first read most of the time, apart from designed plays where the X or Y are the designated receivers.
What i meant btw, he’s making a case to be the possession guy, running the short middle stuff, especially as he’s the biggest and most physical out of Moore/Ford/himself.
still not completely reliable running routes, like that slant he ran from the Z the other week when he gave up the inside to the CB instead of fighting for the inside, and it almost ended up an INT.
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I absolutely think he should be playing as the possession rec..I really like what he does with the ball once he catches it (not with his hands of course) He squares his shoulders and gets upfield as good as any WR in the game…I hate how he catches the ball though..it drives me crazy..Its like he has no confidence in his hands and he relies on his safety blanket:trapping it against his chest to secure the ball..the strange part is that he sacrifices YAC yards by catching the ball like that, yet makes up for it by his ability once he secures the ball..If he could just catch with his hands, he would easily have 1200 yards a year…
January 8th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
I know one thing…we have Players making alot of money,but didnt earn it? We have coaches making alot of money, but didnt earn it. We have loyal fans paying all this money and didnt deserve 8-8. Al Davis said 8 and 8 is simply not good enough!! And I 100% agree. Reggie McKenzie needs to Clean house and rebuild so we can win, even with backups. Like GB,NE,PIT & NO. We need to be a top 5 franchise. And we are not even close!! Al Davis always wanted Winston Moss way before Hue came along. Fire Hue & entire staff, Hire Moss and lets get going. No more time for un-proven coaches, no good or always injured players. Time for MARK DAVIS to put his inprint on the NEW OAKLAND RAIDERS.
January 8th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
dorian
most rational fans are in agreement with you.
Would be silly to fire Hue after how he turned our offense around.
January 8th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
TerrapinRaider Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 1:41 pm
I disagree. For one, Murphy is done. Second, why does every try to qualify what DHB can do? He averaged 15.2ypc. Last time I checked that is a deep threat.
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Because if you take an objective view (not a biased one because he went to your university) he dropped almost every single one of the deep balls thrown his way. He caught something like 20% of the ones going over 20 yards and almost 60% on the shorter routes.
Palmer was one of the most accurate deep ball throwers this year completing over 20+ yards.
Now, he made a HUGE leap this year. He made VERY good Yards After Catch which helped his numbers. He was a huge amount better at those medium range passes this year and although he had some ugly drops, it was nowhere near as bad, and I think he’s going to keep working hard at it and keep getting more and more consistent and productive in his carreer.
But, the reason that those things keep being said is because they’re true. If Moore dropped all short passes someone would comment on that fact. If Bush was a bad blocker when he stays back or was less effective when he had to carry the load more than 2 games in a row it would be pointed out. It’s nothing personal man.
January 8th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
hagan coulda made a great play in sum those losses that woulda won the game for us becus he was obviously a playmaker . thats what im saying . the defense does suck cus they on the field too much and blitz at the wrong time. hagan ( a possession reciever) coulda helped with that. and another running back to spell tired mike bush ,.
January 8th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
The defensive scheme didn’t change as many of you continue to remind us of Al Davis’ system.
Hue sat back and didn’t manage the team.
I just want a clean break from the mediocrity and b.s.
However, once McKenzie makes his decision…one way or another…..I’ll shut up about the Hue thing
January 8th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
senemot Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
I know one thing…we have Players making alot of money,but didnt earn it? We have coaches making alot of money, but didnt earn it.
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YuuuuuP!
January 8th, 2012 at 2:33 pm
Also Terrapin, Murphy might not be done. I don’t know that he’s a JLH or something. He might be able to play descent next year.
January 8th, 2012 at 2:33 pm
#49 is what i was alluding to with all this. armchair im guessing then would be brutal and trade DHB for an early 2nd or late 1st to focus on D acquisition, like a monster NT for instance.
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Trust me, we ain’t gettin no 2nd rounder for DHB, ands we damn sure ain’t gettin no first! We would be lucky to get a 3rd rounder for DHB.
I’m not saying to cut him, but I am saying that he is not a STARTING WR on any championship team in this league.
To me it starts with good scouting, which is supposed to be one of Mckenzie’s strong points.
Look at Denarius Moore. Look at Victor Cruz over in New York. Those are low round receivers that are sheer difference makers.
Give me Moore on one side, and a Victor Cruz on the other side. With Mcfadden, Reece, Boss and Jacoby Ford.
Now tell me that wouldn’t strike pure terror into almost any defensive coordinator in the NFL!
That’s the type of EXCELLENCE that we should be talking about.
DHB just don’t fit in that equation right now.
January 8th, 2012 at 2:33 pm
So where was this latest fantastic trip to, Krappy?
Copenhagen? Oslo? Barstow?
Either way, but KrappyWife & Her Bowl Cut got the wind knocked out of her by the bill.
January 8th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
Would Hue be a hot commodity right now?
Would he be the #1 guy?
Can he manage a team?
Make it tough…play smart?
Hasn’t proved any of that.
I don’t think that because he was in the “right place” at the “right time” should ensure he continues on.
I think he did a terrible job and the team quit down the stretch
January 8th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
Step back from the edge fellas. Hue aint going no-where, he shares agent with the new GM, done deal he coaches next year…we need new D staff!
January 8th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
Sure does suck watching Houston & Denver host playoff games knowing how Jason Campbell led the silver & black into both buildings & came out victorious.
Irony at its worst
January 8th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
SnB
in all honesty, if we stop Detroit’s 98-yard drive, is anyone complaining about a rookie head coach int he playoffs?
mediocrity, after 8 straight 5-11 seasons, has been a pleasant upswing to most fans.
January 8th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
Terrapin,Bresnahan should have been fired during the bye,after the old man died.My problem is HJ didn’t make that move.However,I’ll concede that possibly he didn’t have the authority to make the move,or he didn’t feel there was anyone on the staff who would be any better.
January 8th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
hue jackson was a rookie head coach . al davis is dead so yall cant complain about him controlling hue now. hues gonna get a new d coordinator and jford and dmac back next season. also hes gonna try to shake up the roster by bringin in sum guys him & mckenzie like. jesus christ!! aint sayin he vince lombardi but lets see .. thank god he aint norv turner
January 8th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
I actually think DHB could fetch a 2nd rounder based on this year.
He’s looking pretty good out there.
RAiders shouldn’t trade him at all.
He’s the 1 or 2 players right now. And its not DMAC because he’s in the tub all year.
Seriously….I’ve come full circle with the guy…his production was where it needed to be.
January 8th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
Lefty,
if you concede those points (which are 100% right), how can you still blame the guy?
Especially when we were 7-4?
January 8th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
alex7 Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
SnB
in all honesty, if we stop Detroit’s 98-yard drive, is anyone complaining about a rookie head coach int he playoffs?
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But they didn’t Alex.
I think a better head coach would have inserted himself in there.
We don’t need a head coach that only knows one side of the ball….we need a head coach that can
1. Instill discipline
2. Instill confidence
3. Manage the entire team
I don’t care if we hire a special teams coach as head coach…the new coach needs to do the above.
Hue didn’t do that…just rhetoric, bad trades and b.s
January 8th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
Kool,
Where did you stay?
Any shows or top-end restaurants?
January 8th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
Thinking the Packers would trade a guy like Jordy Nelson or James Jones (DHB) for a 2nd-rounder is silly.
You don’t trade young established players to hope for a different one.
January 8th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
DHB was the best reciever on the team last year & it wasn’t close. Talk of elevating others over him without being out played is foolish favoritism & unwarranted.
January 8th, 2012 at 2:40 pm
man, u shouldnt have to instill confidenece in these adults that get paid millions to perform. ugive me $130, 000 to play running back for any team in the nfl next season and ill play so hard theyd think i was insane .
January 8th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
See, this Broncos team reflects its head coach.
Weaknesses all around…but they didn’t just sit back and get p&ssed off.
They figured it out MID-SEASON and made it work.
Meanwhile Raider land uses “woulda, coulda, shoulda and that great word IF”
Get me a leader as head coach
January 8th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
SnB
you’re usually a smart poster. Thinking that most head coaches don’t focus 99% on one side of the ball is foolish.
January 8th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
i dont care if my team was 0 -15 and our next game was against steelers in pitt.. ill be overconfident and runnin the ball hard as hell. point is . we just gotta hope we find players wit heart . tough guys that want to win at all costs.
January 8th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
What could Hue have done to “insert” himself into the 98-yard situation?
All year long we got toasted playing:
man,
zone,
blitzing,
soft,
vs. run
vs. pass
January 8th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
Wow the steelers secondary is suspect
January 8th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
SnB
Cut the crap.
Fire this guy, cut this guy, this guy can’t play, this guy can’t coach.
NFL football is not as easy as you think it is, stop acting like you’re Vince Lombardi.
By the way, nice to see someone called you out on your crap:
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Alex7 says:
SnB
wouldn’t you have been on the “Fire Coughlin” bandwagon last year after their huge collapse, and the season-ending, playoff-killing loss to DeSean Jackson and the Eagles?
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Nope….Coughlin has an outstanding resume and track record.
Hue Jackson has a bunch of question marks.
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How’s a coach supposed to build a track record, genius?.
January 8th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
alex7 Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
Thinking the Packers would trade a guy like Jordy Nelson or James Jones (DHB) for a 2nd-rounder is silly.
You don’t trade young established players to hope for a different one
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Hue JAckson trades draft picks every day…and would probably trade all of them if he could
January 8th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
What could Hue have done to “insert” himself into the 98-yard situation?
All year long we got toasted playing:
man,
zone,
blitzing,
soft,
vs. run
vs. pass
January 8th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
If we could trade DHB, Jags early 2nd is possible, they’re in desperate need of improving their passing game, QB and receivers. And was thinking maybe Niners late first, who also need receiving talent.
On Murphy, i dont think he’s done either. He was banged up all year (which never helps a person hold onto a spot on the 53) but when healthy is among our best 3 receivers (moore, ford, murphy). He runs better routes, and is better with the ball in the air (tracking and catching) than DHB.
Moore, Ford, Murphy and DHB would be keepers if we weren’t looking to trade any WRs.
The dilemma i pose is the whole idea of — if we’re ’strong’ at an offensive position would you trade one of them for a pick that you can use on D, like a monster NT.
Also, MikieG…yeah, DHB with good hands would be similar to a Mike Wallace. I’ve been screaming for it for 3 years now. Pittsburgh often sends Wallace on deep drags over the middle or short drags, hard to keep up with, and makes huge YAC. Good to see DHB getting used more across the middle this year to validate it.
January 8th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
Snb ,, umm.. jon fox didnt draft tim tebow. he was there when he got there . u say his team took on his mindset ? if his team didnt have tim tebow and soft azz . easy to figure out kyle orton was still the qb, they would be 6-10 … tebow inspired his team .
January 8th, 2012 at 2:45 pm
alex7 Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
SnB
you’re usually a smart poster. Thinking that most head coaches don’t focus 99% on one side of the ball is foolish.
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I think there are head coaches and there are coordinator head coaches.
Hue isn’t that proficient of an offensive coordinator. I don’t put him in the class of Peyton or the guy in Green Bay.
Get me a head coach with THREE strong coordinators.
Head coaches that manage the team
January 8th, 2012 at 2:45 pm
Alias,I’m saying he MIGHT not have had the option.We don’t know whether he did or not.If he did have the option of getting rid of him and didn’t then that is my problem.
January 8th, 2012 at 2:45 pm
Good versus evil. Tebow versus roethlisburger
January 8th, 2012 at 2:45 pm
Yo Blog Brahs, don’t trip!
The Silver & Black just gotta reload with a new D coordinator, some young beef on the D line and a few corners.
In the meantime, get pumped for my first ever solo album, Wrecks N Effect
These tracks are off the hook y’all, check out some fresh lyrics from my new Lake Show inspired track:
Mike Brown, you kinda round
Stay from burgers more then a half pound
Yo Matt Barnes, well, I gots to vent
Your ex wife makes the Beeech Dawg pitch a tent (as in pop a boner)
CHOCOLATE CHEERIOS DON’T NEED NO FLAKES
January 8th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
Bob Marley Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
SnB
Cut the crap.
Fire this guy, cut this guy, this guy can’t play, this guy can’t coach.
NFL football is not as easy as you think it is, stop acting like you’re Vince Lombardi.
By the way, nice to see someone called you out on your crap:
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Yawn
January 8th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
The Tebow bashers are not doing so hot right now.
This morning I heard that he would get hurt, benched, and never start again in the NFL.
Not sure what was in their coffee, but NEWSFLASH, this guy is going to be a pain in our side for years to come.
January 8th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
hue did a darn good job . i mean. ya defense has no heart and gives up 99 , 98 yard drives when their in playoff contention.. i mean, dang ,., i guess the head coach shoulda sat out all the starters on defense and called all the defensive plays .
January 8th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
Coordinator head coaches:
Mike McCarthy
Sean Payton
John Fox (told his coaches to make it work)
your point?
January 8th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
Head Coach = Leadership and accountablity……
January 8th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
The steelers are wearing down
January 8th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
# Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
DHB was the best reciever on the team last year & it wasn’t close. Talk of elevating others over him without being out played is foolish favoritism & unwarranted.
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Dude you are the captain of delusion. When healthy, Denarious Moore is the best Wide Receiver on the team hands down.
DHB’s numbers came because of attrition. I can’t believe you dude. Seriously, you must be on drugs.
I said give me Denarius Moore, and a player like Victor Cruz.
Victor Cruz had 1536 yds and 9 TD’s and he was UNDRAFTED!
And you sittin here talkin about DHB. Are you crazy! Until DHB learns to catch with his hands, he ain’t leading this team to no CHAMPIONSHIP!
January 8th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
I had a feeling this would be this year’s Seahawks vs Saints playoff game.
Banged up Steelers
solid Denver D.
playing in Denver
January 8th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
ArmChair,
DHB is a legit threat. He was getting it done when Ford, MOore and DMAC were sittin in the tub.
He was one of the FEW players not to mail it in down the stretch.
If anything, the kid dialed it up!
And I was a critic of DHB after his 1st year…a big one.
Man pulled through…if we had 22 DHBs starting…
It would be the Raiders trashing the Steelers in Wildcard right now.
January 8th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
Tebow looks like the best QB on the field to me.
January 8th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
JFB, whatever top-end restaurant Krappy bussed tables at, I’m sure they put threw him in service accommodations somewhere underground.
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Just Fire Baby Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
Kool,
Where did you stay?
Any shows or top-end restaurants?
January 8th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
SnB
part of that leadership, as we see EVERY year, is letting go of D-coordinators that didn’t do their job.
part of that leadership is NOT, since we NEVER SEE IT, firing your DC half-way through a winning season.
January 8th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
We could have beat the damn Steelers! They are a wounded team.
January 8th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
armchair
you’re arguing apples and oranges.
Mistic didn’t say who was more talented. He said who our best receiver was this season. And based on production, DHB was.
You don’t trade that for a 2nd round pick. No one ever has.
January 8th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
DHB, Moore and Ford are the receivers of the future. Get used to it
January 8th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
alex7 Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
Coordinator head coaches:
Mike McCarthy
Sean Payton
John Fox (told his coaches to make it work)
your point?
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John Fox benched Orton for Tebow.
John Fox, a defensive guy, has his finger prints all over that team….and it hurts to say that.
January 8th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
One thing I will give Mistic1 credit for, is his love for the “new era” QB.
Tebow and CAm Newton might be two of the best red zone runners in the NFL.
January 8th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
Broncos will draft LaMichael James and continue to be a handful next year.
January 8th, 2012 at 2:53 pm
T-bow is a one man wrecking machine takin it to the Steelers. Got a love it cuz of all the T-bow haters.
Big wish is that T-bow shreds the Niners in the Super Bowl. Not just beat them, but shred them and get’em ready for the crows.
Of course, since we missed the play-offs, dont really care who wins it.
January 8th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
ArmChair,
DHB is a legit threat. He was getting it done when Ford, MOore and DMAC were sittin in the tub.
He was one of the FEW players not to mail it in down the stretch.
If anything, the kid dialed it up!
And I was a critic of DHB after his 1st year…a big one.
Man pulled through…if we had 22 DHBs starting…
It would be the Raiders trashing the Steelers in Wildcard right now.
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You guys are confusing IMPROVEMENT with EXCELLENCE!
Those are two different things. So you mean to tell me that DHB is as good as Victor Cruz?
And which one was undrafted and which one was the number 1 pick!
DHB will make a big play one series, and drop an easy pass the next series…because he doesn’t catch with his hands.
I like DHB’s work ethic and attitude. But he is not an ELITE receiver yet. This is exactly the attitude that needs to be purged from this team!
January 8th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
DHB is not on the list of problems for this Raider team.
One concern is how the Raiders will respond with a strong AFC West next year.
Couldn’t close the deal this year when given away…won’t be any easier next year..
January 8th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
God, Phil Simms is annoying to listen to. Besides tha fact that he can’t seem to say the word “him”, instead pronouncing it “eem”, he completely botched the analysis on the Roethlesberger INT. It was a 4-man rush with a delayed blitz, not a three-man rush, and the ball was picked because the TE wasn’t expecting the ball. Simms says the coverage was great; the guy is wide open, just lets the ball go by because he isn’t ready for it.
This guy played QB in the NFL at a pretty high level, too.
January 8th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
lol SnB
yes, he did bench Orton. They were 1-4 at the time.
We were 7-4 at one time.
Still not sure how Hue should have “inserted” himself into the D. Bench who? For who?
January 8th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
ArmChair,
Who said DHB is as good as Victor Cruz? I think Victor Cruz has a better QB throwing to him and is on a more fundamentally sound football team.
Hue Jackson didn’t really start using DHB correctly until later in the season…before, it was just send DHB deep and see what happens.
DHB is good and getting better….
January 8th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
Broncos will still lose this game. This reminds me of a baseball game where a AAA pitcher gets called up and mows down the lineup the first 2 times through, then gets shelled for the rest of the game.
January 8th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/news/the-nfl-coaching-crisis-20120106
This explains Tebow & Norv, surprised Hue wasn’t mentioned.
Matt Taibbi is great.
January 8th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
Even if we limped into the playoffs, our D wouldn’t be tough and smart enough to do this to the Steelers, and there clearly wasnt enough unity and leadership on either O or D like the Broncos.
January 8th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
sigh SnB
“Hue didn’t starting using DHB correctly until later…”
DHB’s had great games weeks 3, 4, 5, and 6.
Your Hue hate is irrational.
January 8th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
# alex7 Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
armchair
you’re arguing apples and oranges.
Mistic didn’t say who was more talented. He said who our best receiver was this season. And based on production, DHB was.
You don’t trade that for a 2nd round pick. No one ever has.
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I don’t think you read my post Alex. I never said to trade DHB for anybody. I said that he should not be starting until he catches with his hands.
Talking about him having better stats on an injury plagued Raider team is like saying that Michael Bush is the best running back on the Raiders because he had the most yards.
All of us who are rational know that Darren Mcfadden when healthy, is the best running back not only on our team but in the entire NFL!
Give me Moore and one side, and a reliable, CONSISTENT receiver who catches the ball with his hands on the other side.
January 8th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
sigh SnB
“Hue didn’t starting using DHB correctly until later…”
DHB’s had great games weeks 3, 4, 5, and 6.
Your Hue hate is irrational.
January 8th, 2012 at 3:00 pm
This is like the seahawks vs saints playoff game last year
January 8th, 2012 at 3:00 pm
If Broncos win this game the entire Raiders team should be flogged in the public square.
January 8th, 2012 at 3:00 pm
Can we give DHB a break? He’s a guy who works hard and tries to maximize his talent. We knew he was raw coming out of college. He was our best receiver and played hard every down. How many of the other players on this team can you say that about?
January 8th, 2012 at 3:01 pm
GG Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
Even if we limped into the playoffs, our D wouldn’t be tough and smart enough to do this to the Steelers, and there clearly wasnt enough unity and leadership on either O or D like the Broncos.
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We did everything we could not to deserve to be in the playoffs..Every Raider fan in the world knows that our Defense cost us the postseason..we did nothing to take away games.
January 8th, 2012 at 3:01 pm
See that Catch by Wallace..DHB turns his shoulders and gets STRAIGHT upfield there..Terrible decision by Mike.
January 8th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
Lefty12 Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
So HJ got a manicure.He is entitled to do personal things.That sounds like nitpicking to me-looking for any reason to dislike the guy.Knock his coaching if you will,but get over what he does in his free time.
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When we are fighting to get into the playoffs there is no free time!!!! Eat, sh!t, sleep, work, period!!!!! Study film, not People magazine. No time to go to a Wizards game either. Fck Hue Jax. He needs to go
January 8th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
Who cares if a guy catches the ball with his hands or not as long as he catches it.All WRs catch the ball against their body.Sounds as if you are coming up with excuses to justify your dislike of the guy.
January 8th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
Hahahahahaha MikieG….Denver not losing…..its just adds more steam to the Fire Hue train…..I find this hilarious….look at what Hue created lol
January 8th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
armchair
again, you’re using the word “best” relative to talent, while Mistic was just pointing out who was the most productive.
The ability to stay healthy is an important attribute if you want to be a starter.
Ford will not be a starter unless it’s the slot. So DHB and Moore make the most sense outside. Sure, if Megatron ends up a Raider some day, you push DHB aside, but til then…
January 8th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
Bronco’s have a top tier defense and Pro Bowl alternate at QB (players voted him higher than fans did).
They will be a tough out in the playoffs.
January 8th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
lefty12 Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
Who cares if a guy catches the ball with his hands or not as long as he catches it.All WRs catch the ball against their body.Sounds as if you are coming up with excuses to justify your dislike of the guy.
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Agreed! Who cares as long as the ball is caught and YAC is achieved.
Production is all that matters….everything else is B.S
January 8th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
Make Chicken Salad out of Chicken SHHHHHH
January 8th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
That is a great article RaiderTW, thanks for posting.
January 8th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
Hahahahahaha MikieG….Denver not losing…..its just adds more steam to the Fire Hue train…..I find this hilarious….look at what Hue created lol
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I cant believe what I am seeing, however, Squeelers will still win this..
January 8th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
Steelers expecting the wild cat and a lot of ground game and T-bow slicing them with the deep ball. Steelers suckin wind.
January 8th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
Hue is a loser lol
January 8th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
u all that have an issue with DHB are making no fundamental sense. He is improving rapidly and he is well on his way to being 1000 yard receiver. The problem is Carson “Int” Palmer for a 1st and 2nd. That was such a STUPID trade. But hey the raider got 4 wins for that and as Hue says a chance to be in the playoffs. So incompetent because even if they did make the playoffs the raiders have way to many holes on defense. How the heck could Hue not realize that they had no chance with that defense. I think he should be fired for using shockingly bad judgement just for that dumb trade alone.
January 8th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
When we are fighting to get into the playoffs there is no free time!!!! Eat, sh!t, sleep, work, period!!!!! Study film, not People magazine. No time to go to a Wizards game either.
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Stupid comment.
January 8th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
Just the kind of attitude that has kept us from winning….Making excuses for lack of excellence.
Satele was a hard worker…dedicated, played hurt most of the season. But he should not have been the STARTER. What part of that do you guys not understand?
You guys deal in absolutes, like Sith Lords. Either Start Him or Trade/Cut him. Where is the freakin middle ground?!?
DHB is a good kid, works hard, made some good plays, and deserves a chance on our team….but he is not a STARTER on any CHAMPIONSHIP TEAM, because he does not catch with his hands!
Period, point blank! But of course this will go over most of you guys heads…smh
January 8th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
lol @ Raider 56
because he thinks no coach has a social life during the NFL season.
Belichick had his mistress.
Many others have family lives.
dumb irration Hue hate. weird.
January 8th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
Bronco’s have a top tier defense and Pro Bowl alternate at QB (players voted him higher than fans did).
They will be a tough out in the playoffs.
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Meanwhile, Raiders sit home with a Million Dollar defensive payroll that was running the same scheme for years…yet they got worse down the stretch and no one could do anything about it.
But do magazine spreads and believe the hype.
Couldn’t even get up to play some of the games down the stretch
January 8th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
Really though, I hate both of these fVcking teams so bad I couldn’t possibly care less who wins..I hope the whole stadium is hit by a 100 meeter wide Asteroid..
January 8th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
Sean Payton gave up some of his own money to hire Gregg Williams as DC.
Gary Kubiak didn’t get over the hump until they hired DC Wade Phillips.
Andy Reid missed the playoffs for the 1st time in the last 4 years when he decided to go with an OL coach as DC.
Mike McCarthy’s team took the next step once Dom Capers was hired as DC.
Those are some of the best offensive minds around, Payton and McCarthy have rings, Reid is among the winningest active coaches.
Now Hue Jackson isn’t anywhere near those guys just yet, that’s obvious.
Point is, even the best offensive minds around need or needed a hand with their own Defense, just like Hue does now.
January 8th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
Who is dissing DHB? Im not seeing it.
January 8th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
MikieG…hahahahahaha ur delusional…Dungver taking this and we are stuck with the what ifs……Hue Crap City
January 8th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
I wonder what defensive player/s we could have gotten for a 1 and a 2. Would that have made a bigger difference than Palmer?
January 8th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
armchair
but Oakland is NOT a championship team.
So who SHOULD start over DHB?
January 8th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
VBob Marley…ur posts are not jammin….fk hue jackson
January 8th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
and if you bench Satele, you take a big drop-off from Wiz at LG to Heyer at LG.
Coaches felt Satele + Wiz > Heyer + Wiz
What’s so hard about that?
January 8th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
Kool,
Where did you stay?
Any shows or top-end restaurants?
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Stayed at the Monte Carlo, ate at the Stratosphere, saw Tournament of Kings at Excalibur.
It’s changed so much. Unrecognizable. Aria, Bellagio, Caesars, New York New York. Paris. That schit’s bigger than life. Lotta fun.
January 8th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
DHB was clearly the most productive pass catcher on our team. He is continually improving & will be even better next year. Even when he shared the feild with Moore or ford he was often the man with the best numbers. Eventually perhaps Moore will be better than DHB, but he isnt as consiteny or productive as of yet.
Trading DHB would put a major hole in or wr group as we don’t have anyone else who has even proven that they can be durable enough to make an impact on a weekly basis.
If you want to trade there are two guys that have enough name value that could possibly fool a team for a 2nd rounder at least. Palmer & Seymour.
January 8th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
MikieG…hahahahahaha ur delusional…Dungver taking this and we are stuck with the what ifs……Hue Crap City
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Delusional? Perhaps..but I just made the best Goddamm wings I ever had in my life..Holy Crap were those good..I want 20 more.
Teblow is goin down regardless.
January 8th, 2012 at 3:10 pm
Fire Hue or go 6-10 next year…u can’t bring back a guy who loses the locker room cuz he will never get it back
January 8th, 2012 at 3:10 pm
We kinda need a QB, so can’t trade Palmer. No way McKenzie goes rookie QB and 4-12 to start his career.
Seymour makes $15 million a year, so can’t trade him.
January 8th, 2012 at 3:10 pm
Aight, y’all, boarding the Reggae Party Boat – next stop Marina Del Rey
Got the DJ booth set up, will be spinning some Coolio, Mobb Fresh & Weird Al for the ultimate party mash up
Dem shorties gettin’ fresh on the Beeech Dawg’s flo hizzle (meaning they’ll be massaging my nads with their lips).
Lake Show tip off coming up, almost time for some light calisthenics & Meister Brau
WRECKS N EFFECT DROPS ON YO FACE, NIZZLE
January 8th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
lefty12 Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
Who cares if a guy catches the ball with his hands or not as long as he catches it.All WRs catch the ball against their body.Sounds as if you are coming up with excuses to justify your dislike of the guy.
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I like DHB, but that method of catching is fundamentally unsound..and If you don’t know why that is..then you have obviously never stepped onto a football field and played a down in your life..Playing in the park with your buddies doesn’t count bro.
January 8th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
Stupid Fox. Tebow doesnt have the touch for short passes. Why not run him in. That has seemed to always work.
January 8th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
@mistic
Who would you compare DHB to talent wise?
Do you think DHB was worth the investment, ie no. 7 pick?
January 8th, 2012 at 3:12 pm
Hahaha AlexisMR…if hue and palmer are brought back we go 6-10…so that’s a better start than 4-12 for mckenzie huh?
January 8th, 2012 at 3:13 pm
I’m waiting for a South Park episode with Shebow lol
January 8th, 2012 at 3:13 pm
SnB
John Fox benched Orton for Tebow.
John Fox, a defensive guy, has his finger prints all over that team….and it hurts to say that.
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alex7 Says:
lol SnB
yes, he did bench Orton. They were 1-4 at the time.
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Not to mention that John Fox had the whole state of Colorado clamoring for Tebow to start since week 1, if anything it took him too long to do it and it was obvious he didn’t want to, he was forced to, too much pressure from Denver fans and media.
January 8th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
lol
Raider fans might be as dumb as advertised.
“Trade our most talented player! (Dmac)”
“Trade our most healthy and productive young receiver!”
“Fire our rookie head coach that turned us out of 5-11 records!”
“Trade our starting QB who was the only reason we didn’t go 5-11 again!”
January 8th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
Denver in prevent, Chucky style
January 8th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
Good pre-game preparation by John Fox too in this game, like that play Simms diagnosed with the TE running that crossing then head-fake pattern to go deep.
January 8th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
I always liked the Monte Carlo.
Brew Pub is a great place to watch games.
That Mexican restaurant is decent, inexpensive night-time spot.
Yeah, city center is unreal. Not doing that great but still impressive.
January 8th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
Kool,
Where did you stay?
Any shows or top-end restaurants?
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Stayed at the Monte Carlo, ate at the Stratosphere, saw Tournament of Kings at Excalibur.
It’s changed so much. Unrecognizable. Aria, Bellagio, Caesars, New York New York. Paris. That schit’s bigger than life. Lotta fun.
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Krappy, if you were hankering for a lame jousting tourist experience, there’s a Medieval Times in Buena Park
January 8th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
Haha lame ass denver hosting a playoff game and Oakland nada…..Hue the time is now? Lmao
January 8th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
150.What Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
Steelers expecting the wild cat and a lot of ground game and T-bow slicing them with the deep ball. Steelers suckin wind.
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Not even worried about the Steeler defense. Those guys are players, and LeBeau will make adjustments at halftime.
What worries me is Pittrsburgh’s offense. They’re moving the ball a little bit, but struggling to do so. They don’t seem to have a rhythm.
January 8th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
# alex7 Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
armchair
but Oakland is NOT a championship team.
So who SHOULD start over DHB?
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Success and failure start in the mind. We just got a championship caliber GM. The level of parity in this league is at an all time high. You think Mckenzie is coming to Oakland thinking that we can’t win a championship.
You failed before you even got started with that kind of thinking. I brought up Victor Cruz because he was UNDRAFTED! Denarious Moore was a late round pick.
You may not realize this, but Megatron only had about 150 more receiving yards than Cruz. So if you scout and draft right, you can find gems.
The Raiders can be a championship team, but we gotta stop starting players who shouldn’t be starting!
Satele, DHB, Khalif Barnes, Lito Shephard, Matt Giordano…
Those are good, serviceable, hard working players, but like I am saying for the 4th time, they are not STARTERS on any CHAMPIONSHIP team!
I want excellence, I don’t want average!
January 8th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
Never said it was fundamentally know it all.What I said is it doesn’t matter as long as he catches the damn ball.All WRs in the NFL catch the ball against their body.Of course if you’ve never played the game or never watched a game,you wouldn’t know this.
January 8th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
When you run a defensive scheme and the offense can fire on it at will, it will be known as the ‘roll over 2, 3/4 split, safety out, chucky b holla’
January 8th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
Should Batch come in, or does a hurt big ben actually a better shot to win?
January 8th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
Yeah Denver’s prevent defense didn’t allow any points hahahahaha
January 8th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
armchair
so you draft a guy or pick up an undrafted free agent, assume he’s the next Victor Cruz, and start him over DHB?
That’s your plan?
January 8th, 2012 at 3:19 pm
Can’t wait to see how Mackenzie evaluates our roster. What will he think of our dline & romac? How will our qbs measure up?
I don’t think Palmer will have nearly the leash that most bloggers here do. Palmer was hu jacks guy, but we know he has been disappointed by the qb at times this year. Hue will be in year two, but its essentialy a trial period under his new boss. If palmer syruggles hue cant afford to stay with him as he could be out of a hob next year if they lose.
Palmer isn’t Mackenzie’s pick so I can’t see him sitting on his hands if things go south next year. I wonder who will come in to give competition or step in if Carson flops. He has no aligience to palmer & will certainly want a qb that he picks at some point. That time will be determined based on Carson’s play. Carson plays well he will buy time, if he flops he will be out.
January 8th, 2012 at 3:20 pm
Denver will win and Hue looks even worse…this can be a good thing and make McKenzie wanna schitcan Hue
January 8th, 2012 at 3:20 pm
come on armchair
you would bench EVERY SINGLE STEELERS O-LINEMAN because they’re not championship-level.
And start…?
WHEN Raiders have a guy who is healthy and outplays DHB, then yes, that guy should start.
January 8th, 2012 at 3:21 pm
190-we all know you hope CP flops.
January 8th, 2012 at 3:21 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 3:20 pm
Denver will win and Hue looks even worse…this can be a good thing and make McKenzie wanna schitcan Hue
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Sweet.
January 8th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
I hear ya B&uce!
These Raider fans have such low expectations….they think that because Hue improved on JaBustus he’s a great coach.
Addition by subtraction if you ask me.
Now…having a team at 7-4 mail it in down the stretch….no shows against Miami and GreenBay….laid a big runny turd at home to end the season…..
Put Hue on the road.
John Fox = Making Chicken Salad out of Chicken SHHHHH
Hue Jackson = Woulda, Coulda, Shoulda, If
January 8th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
Mistic hue and palmer need to go
January 8th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
you guys would want to fire Tomlin.
“He’s lost the locker room!”
January 8th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
SnB
Fox was let go by the Raiders.
Can’t have it both ways.
January 8th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
Lefty….lol…CP sucks
January 8th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
IF the Broncos lose, it would show Hue that he should have won the west.
IF the Broncos win, it will be embarrassing to Hue.
See how stupid your posts are?
January 8th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
Watching this game it was apparent to me that I hate Pitt more than Denver,a strange feeling cuz I wish them both ill and hardship,HaHa
January 8th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
All in all Hue Jax was good because, because he brought back the “O.”
But he needs to tone it down abit. The Pedicure photo-shoot while Carson Palmer is telling the media that he needed more time with the Coach is a red-flag to me and is STRIKE ONE. The sd Game and the clock managment brain-farts are Strike-TWO. If he would have lost the KC game it would have been Five straight losses and hes out but he won the game and earned another year.
On the other hand he had to deal with the vaunted Chuck Bresnahan Defense. I would like to atleast see this offense run with a Healthy DMAC and Palmer and with a competent D. If he can’t make the playoff then…he out
January 8th, 2012 at 3:25 pm
Mike Tomlin’s track record commands respect alexisMR so shut up u btch
January 8th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
If Hue doesn’t trade for a QB?
“Hue quit on a 1st-place team!”
If Hue trades for a QB?
“He mortgaged the future!”
January 8th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
Pittsburgh’s #1 defense is on pace to give up 40 points and 500 yards.
Other than Drew Brees, Tebow has looked like the best QB so far this weekend.
January 8th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
alex7 Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
SnB
Fox was let go by the Raiders.
Can’t have it both ways.
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I am talking about hear and now Alex.
All I am saying is the head coach for the Raiders couldn’t get this team ready to play down the stretch.
Couldn’t arrest the discipline and penalties….regardless of the scheme…couldn’t get this team to believe in anything.
I don’t want to repeat this next year….
I said after the Miami game…that how hard this team plays down the stretch should determine if Hue stays.
That was an awful stretch of games.
January 8th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
190.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 3:19 pm
Can’t wait to see how Mackenzie evaluates our roster. What will he think of our dline & romac? How will our qbs measure up?
I don’t think Palmer will have nearly the leash that most bloggers here do. Palmer was hu jacks guy, but we know he has been disappointed by the qb at times this year. Hue will be in year two, but its essentialy a trial period under his new boss. If palmer syruggles hue cant afford to stay with him as he could be out of a hob next year if they lose.
Palmer isn’t Mackenzie’s pick so I can’t see him sitting on his hands if things go south next year. I wonder who will come in to give competition or step in if Carson flops. He has no aligience to palmer & will certainly want a qb that he picks at some point. That time will be determined based on Carson’s play. Carson plays well he will buy time, if he flops he will be out.
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Seriously, dude. You really need to get off this track. Carson Palmer is the Raiders’ starting quarterback. Period, as Priest would say. We gave up two high draft picks for him and he played very well given the circumstances, improving every week despite a revolving door at WR and injuries to other key players. Heck, the guy was training the young WRs to run routes correctly right after he got here.
Jason Campbell isn’t coming back. We’re not trading for a new QB. Carson is the Raiders quarterback. Get over it.
January 8th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
Mike Tomlin’s track record is riding Ben and Dick LeBeau to the playoffs every year.
Tom Coughlin’s track record after 1 year? 4-12
Bill Walsh’s track record after 1 year? 2-14
Jeff Fisher’s track record? 1-6, 7-9, 8-8, 8-8.
January 8th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
What Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 2:53 pm
T-bow is a one man wrecking machine takin it to the Steelers. Got a love it cuz of all the T-bow haters.
Big wish is that T-bow shreds the Niners in the Super Bowl. Not just beat them, but shred them and get’em ready for the crows.
Of course, since we missed the play-offs, dont really care who wins it.
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You need to go f*ck yourself in the ass like a gay boy.
January 8th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
AlexisMR stop being a coward and tell me that to my face and stop hiding behind the computer so I can slit your throat
January 8th, 2012 at 3:28 pm
NOt sure if Hue lost the lockerroom or not, but they sure in the hell played like he did.
No show in Miami?
It’s fkn Miami!!! They were like 4-11 in the their 15 home games before we played them.
So maybe you can lose to them, but you can’t no-show.
You just can’t. Offense, defense, hell we came out of halftime and gave up a 70 yard KO return.
Someone should lose their job over this. SOMEONE
January 8th, 2012 at 3:28 pm
whoa Method!!
You are soooo cool! So tough! A Killer!! Wow!
Can I get your autograph?? When’s your 7th birthday?
January 8th, 2012 at 3:29 pm
AlexisMR….7-4 to 8-8….then throwing team under bus while not shaking hands with Norv….Hue is a loser like you are that’s why you defend him
January 8th, 2012 at 3:29 pm
Mike Tomlin’s track record commands respect….
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Don’t mention track records unless you’re willing to wait on Hue Jackson to build his own, 1 season does not count as a track record, in any sport, not for an athlete, not for a coach.
January 8th, 2012 at 3:29 pm
tebow has 5 completions in the half.
January 8th, 2012 at 3:29 pm
This blog is in meltdown mode lol, compared to the early morning nice respectful discussions that were going on.
January 8th, 2012 at 3:30 pm
AlexisMR the bday is real soon and you’re invited…come on down from Sac u btch
January 8th, 2012 at 3:30 pm
597.J Hill Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 10:23 am
Well all I know is my suggestion to pick Pierre Paul ….
Ah, nevermind.
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who’s been screaming for a pass rushing de for a few years?
January 8th, 2012 at 3:30 pm
F teblow and the donks. As much as I hate the Steelers there is no way it compares to the hatred I have for the donks.
January 8th, 2012 at 3:30 pm
lol @ Raider 56
because he thinks no coach has a social life during the NFL season.
Belichick had his mistress.
Many others have family lives.
dumb irration Hue hate. weird.
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personal life is one thing. being a media hog is another. why take the media along to photograph your personal life?? He is all talk and show. An egomaniac who stole his job
January 8th, 2012 at 3:30 pm
Gruden went from 6-2 to 8-8.
And?
January 8th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 3:19 pm
Can’t wait to see how Mackenzie evaluates our roster. What will he think of our dline & romac? How will our qbs measure up?
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Right! especially Romac b/c McKenzie was a LB. IMHO RoMac is good but regressed under Brez. I wonder if he thinks Romac can come back under another D coordinator. I mean having a MLB gaurd Megatron AND Vincent Jackson on CRUCIAL downs back to back. Thats not Romac’s fault
January 8th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
JFB,
I think Hue Jackson started believing the hype after the Chicago game…….
The team was trash and if the season were to start over…this team would have been junk the way it played down the stretch.
January 8th, 2012 at 3:32 pm
Yes Raider56
that Raiders offense went from 32nd in the NFL to 5th when Hue showed up by MAGIC.
Because Jason Campbell is Brett Favre the 2nd.
You know what head coach wasn’t a media hog? Art Shell.
January 8th, 2012 at 3:33 pm
Bob Marley….u obviously haven’t shot the sherriff today….that post was for dumbass AlexisMR joking around about a SB coach losing locker room
January 8th, 2012 at 3:33 pm
GG Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 3:29 pm
This blog is in meltdown mode lol, compared to the early morning nice respectful discussions that were going on.
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LMAO!!!
Yup,…watching Tebow go crazy in our place should raise the temperature of the Nation
January 8th, 2012 at 3:33 pm
# alex7 Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
armchair
so you draft a guy or pick up an undrafted free agent, assume he’s the next Victor Cruz, and start him over DHB?
That’s your plan?
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No genius….
I would get a proven WR through free agency, but I would still look for promising talent at the WR position.
I would not stand pat thinking that DHB is the answer right now, until he starts catching the ball with his hands. Desean Jackson is a free agent. Vincent Jackson is a free agent.
But your logic tells you to start DHB over players like that, who are proven difference makers.
To me you ALWAYS look to improve especially at the skilled positions. You bring in a wide receiver who can compete for a starting position right away.
It’s actually a WIN WIN situation.
It will either make DHB a better receiver by knowing that he must continue to improve in order to keep his starting job, or on the other end of the spectrum…lo and behold…you actually get a receiver who is clutch, experienced, catches with his hands consistently, and is actually BETTER than DHB. God forbid that!
Freakin a.
January 8th, 2012 at 3:34 pm
How convenient, SnB
Team loses to the Packers, and an East coast road game (that NEVER HAPPENS!), and you pick that point to insert your belief.
January 8th, 2012 at 3:34 pm
the fact they played their a$$es off vs the Chiefs in a must-win game?
Doesn’t matter lol
doesn’t fit your imagined scenario.
January 8th, 2012 at 3:34 pm
Phil Sims “they make adjustments at halftime”
January 8th, 2012 at 3:35 pm
Edward Teach,207,with ya,CP is our starting qb,those that dont like it,take a strong chill pill,it is what it is,starting Oakland Raider QB,Carson Palmer
January 8th, 2012 at 3:35 pm
Hue Jack City is too ghetto to be a NFL coach. I wouldn’t mind someone like that guy who coached the Colts, or Lovie Smith. Those guys have class.
January 8th, 2012 at 3:35 pm
Gruden didn’t lose locker room or do some big ass talk as if he was the schit…I didn’t like gruden that much but he took accountability for it nor did he do dumbass trade for a schit qb like Palmer
January 8th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
Alex,
The Raiders lost to Miami by 30 points.
They lost to the Packers by 40 points
Unacceptable….then proceeded to laydown the rest of the way
January 8th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
# Raider Ray Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 3:35 pm
Hue Jack City is too ghetto to be a NFL coach. I wouldn’t mind someone like that guy who coached the Colts, or Lovie Smith. Those guys have class.
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Well look who’s back…the official Cop Klansman!
January 8th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
SnB…you just always seem to get the bigger picture
January 8th, 2012 at 3:37 pm
armchair
what great free agent WR will simply waltz over to Oakland and take our offer over everyone else’s?
You act like that’s sooooo easy.
Is anyone saying we SHOULDN’T look to upgrade? You keep talking about benching guys when we don’t have anyone to replace them yet.
January 8th, 2012 at 3:37 pm
The pitts Coach does not impress me. Did not rest Rapelessburger last game versus Browns and GUESS WHAT HAPPENED: reinjured his ankle in a meaningless game. Everybody; all the talking heads were saying rest Big Ben, rest big ben. What does he do?
January 8th, 2012 at 3:37 pm
Raider Ray aka the Neo Nazi from New Mexico.
January 8th, 2012 at 3:38 pm
again SnB
nice of you to ignore the effort vs the Chiefs and Lions.
Laydown? haha.
January 8th, 2012 at 3:39 pm
Edward Teach Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
190.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 3:19 pm
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Seriously, dude. You really need to get off this track. Carson Palmer is the Raiders’ starting quarterback. Period, as Priest would say. We gave up two high draft picks for him and he played very well given the circumstances, improving every week despite a revolving door at WR and injuries to other key players. Heck, the guy was training the young WRs to run routes correctly right after he got here.
Jason Campbell isn’t coming back. We’re not trading for a new QB. Carson is the Raiders quarterback. Get over it……..
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Not sure why you have such a strong reaction to the mere suggestion that Palmer may have to earn the job next year. In fact he was awarded the job by default. I don’t see a guy that has sold his teammates or the coaches, & he certainly has no history with mackenzie, unless you count Mackenzie watching Palmer throw picks into quintuple coverage in green bay.
Palmer maybe your idol but he will need to prove to Mackenzie that he should be the starter, just like any other player. Again as of he now he is guy that three more picks than touchdowns had several picks dropped and ended with a 3-5 record. He contributed to the second half collapse and was last seen arguing with his head coach heading into the tunnel after botching a drive at the end of a half.
I’m afraid the case for Carson isn’t any where near as solid in reality as it is in your mind
January 8th, 2012 at 3:39 pm
Hue Jack is just another shuck and jive flim flam man.
January 8th, 2012 at 3:39 pm
Armond….you and I have been wanting a speed demon who can pass rush from blindside
January 8th, 2012 at 3:39 pm
# alex7 Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 3:37 pm
armchair
what great free agent WR will simply waltz over to Oakland and take our offer over everyone else’s?
You act like that’s sooooo easy.
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Dumbest thing I’ve read all day. What’s the excitement over getting a proven GM if no free agents would ever come to Oakland?
Why look to upgrade ANY positions if we don’t believe that we could attract free agents to play here?
Try something else, this one’s beyond lame.
January 8th, 2012 at 3:39 pm
lol .. GG ./ we all turning on each other cus the broncos are winning.
January 8th, 2012 at 3:40 pm
Sounds like Jerry want Hue Jack Fired!!!
Would you agree????
January 8th, 2012 at 3:40 pm
Pedicure in ESPN the magazine. Only okay if you are the coach of the 49ers.
January 8th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
DHB holds the ball with two hands and we win the Deroit game.
January 8th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
Mistic
who will Palmer compete vs besides Pryor?
January 8th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
oh now pittsburgh coach doesnt impress u ? lol.. should they fire him hf the steelres lose tonight ?
January 8th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
Alex,
The Chiefs game was not played by a team that was fighting for a playoff spot…and we know what that game was all about…seriously.
The Lions game…head coach leaves points on the field, offense laysdown the entire 2nd half…and then we all saw the defense in the clutch.
Nope…those were crappy efforts too!
January 8th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
154.ArmChair GM Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
Just the kind of attitude that has kept us from winning….Making excuses for lack of excellence.
Satele was a hard worker…dedicated, played hurt most of the season. But he should not have been the STARTER. What part of that do you guys not understand?
You guys deal in absolutes, like Sith Lords. Either Start Him or Trade/Cut him. Where is the freakin middle ground?!?
DHB is a good kid, works hard, made some good plays, and deserves a chance on our team….but he is not a STARTER on any CHAMPIONSHIP TEAM, because he does not catch with his hands!
Period, point blank! But of course this will go over most of you guys heads…smh
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i like the sith’s. i was mad when they lost 2 the force. it was fugged up how obi-1 fugged up anakin. plus we all know he was fuggin padame. i mean how u gon fugg a man’s woman and then turn him into a half man half robot with a fugged up scalp. then he wouldnt tell lil anakin that he raised his son. hell i would be on some darth vader sh1t too.
January 8th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
lol yep Doriangray and SnB.
January 8th, 2012 at 3:42 pm
ill admit .. the whole sissified pedicure thing was f`d up.. i wont ever get my feet or fingers did!! im a man dangit!! but uhh..
January 8th, 2012 at 3:42 pm
armchair
this is the last post re: you.
You keep talking about benching DHB while having NO plan B other than “maybe a top free agent will come here.”
That’s odd.
January 8th, 2012 at 3:43 pm
who would u rather share a beer with ? a sith lord or sum lame jedi ?
January 8th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
Method, great minds think a like, right? You and me both want Hue Jack fired. Who would you like to see replace him. I wouldn’t mind seeing Rob Ryan get a shot.
January 8th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
Mistic,
What a ridiculous statement. Palmer is not my idol. I’m simply stating the reasons that he will continue to be the Raiders’ starting quarterback.
Jason Campbell IS your idol, and you’re still butt-hurt that he’s out. That’s a fact, and it colors every post you make regarding the position. He’s gone, and he ain’t coming back.
As I said, get over it. Or maybe you can just become a fan of the next team he plays for.
January 8th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
sooo, who in here has seen wrong turn 4 ? its like a movie about what happened to the raiders around week 6 .
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http://www.megavideo.com/?v=TK4M0UY1
January 8th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
doriangray Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 3:42 pm
ill admit .. the whole sissified pedicure thing was f`d up.. i wont ever get my feet or fingers did!! im a man dangit!! but uhh..
——————————————————-ESPECIALLY when Carson was saying he did not have enough time to work with the coach…
January 8th, 2012 at 3:45 pm
But maybe its Carson Palmer’s fault for not going to the Hair&Nails with Hue to talk shop
January 8th, 2012 at 3:45 pm
Looks like the Patriots are going to the Super Bowl.
January 8th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
alright SnB
when a team scores 20+ points in the first half,
they apparently HAVE to score another 20+ in the second, otherwise it’s a laydown.
And when you’re ONE GAME out of first-place, you’re not playing for first place. Got it.
Goodness you’re struggling today.
January 8th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
He lost half the time with that fem sh!t
January 8th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
Alex,
Keep fightin for your guy….once we get through this next week we can get back to talking X’s and O’s
January 8th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
btw, all i wanted to do was pose the question, would you trade DHB for a late first or high 2nd for a gun defensive player, considering the D is in dire need of talent.
or a better asked question…WHO would you guys trade from the offense (where we have more talent) for draft pick in order to address the D, ESPECIALLY as we currently only have a 5th and 6th.
Eg, like someone else mentioned, DeSean or Vincent from FA, to replace DHB, if we can get one of them, then draft D, or trade that down and draft two D players.
January 8th, 2012 at 3:47 pm
my idol is marques tuuiasossopo .
January 8th, 2012 at 3:47 pm
as i mentioned last night HOF te john mackey body caught everything according to ernie acorsi. that didnt stop him from being great. dhb has caught several passes with his hands and only those who dislike him say he doesnt. ive seen reggie wayne body catch several passes. nobody said he was elite but he is good. he’s improved every year and i expect him to be even better this coming year. all wrs body catch.
ford isnt even that reliable himself. when has ford been consistent catching the ball? ive never seen ford string a month of good to dominating performances or moore for that matter also.
January 8th, 2012 at 3:49 pm
i need u guys help.. as fellow raider nationers and more importantly as fellow men. so uhh, im 34 and i was in bed wit a 20 year old wit great breats and blonde hair last night and my (pole) decided not to work at all.. now ive experienced thsi a few other times but man! this was tragic, she slurped the pole & errthang .. any suggestions dudes ?
January 8th, 2012 at 3:49 pm
raidertalk Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 3:45 pm
But maybe its Carson Palmer’s fault for not going to the Hair&Nails with Hue to talk shop
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Funny…
January 8th, 2012 at 3:49 pm
Your all morons and you must be a part of occupy Oakland.
Hue is our coach and Carson is our QB, accept it and let’s start talking about the fixes on the side that cost us the division, you know, the Defense that gave up 433 points, remember?
January 8th, 2012 at 3:49 pm
Of course Carson will get to start for the raiders next year. My point is he may not have a very long leash depending on what other qbs are on the roster next year. Hue knows he won’t be retained if they lose next year. I doubt he would ride Palmer to the end if Palmer struggles & there is a comparable option on the bench.
By the way another bad thing about the Palmer trade is we got older & more torn over prone at the qb spot, while simultaneously losing draft picks.
Hue got taken to the cleaners, & this is also a part of what he is being evaluated on I’m sure.
The pressure will be on next year for Palmer & hue
January 8th, 2012 at 3:50 pm
C’Mor Carson lets go talk “O” at the HappyNails or Nailtime or PrincessNails!
January 8th, 2012 at 3:50 pm
1) Well, looks like Reggie has to consider this: the first goal is to win our division, and as long as Denver has this strong a defense, it’s always going to be hard to game plan them with Tebow, and I do expect Tebow to be their qb.
Say what you will, our corners can’t cover those soft lobs that Tebow throws and his receivers catch.
2) Looking at Elway in the booth is still funny: in his heart, you know he hopes Tebow gets hurt. Yes, I know I said that Denver will remain a thorn in our sides, but that having been said, Elway knows that even with a good D, a team like Denver with a qb like Tebow can’t beat the Aaron Rodgers, Brady kinds of teams if those teams are healthy. In fact, if Ben were healthy, I think Pitt would win this game.
January 8th, 2012 at 3:50 pm
256.doriangray Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 3:43 pm
who would u rather share a beer with ? a sith lord or sum lame jedi ?
the siths ofcourse!!!
January 8th, 2012 at 3:50 pm
Racist Ray….Bmore is winning the title this year….its their time
January 8th, 2012 at 3:51 pm
thanks 303, for a rational post.
January 8th, 2012 at 3:51 pm
armond,. who in the fu## cares what john mackey did? its 2012 u dimwit!! oh guess what.. earl campbell ran over linebackers too!! maybe dmac can try that .. hey and while were at it .. maybe mike mitchell can closeline recievers like jack tatum did.. oooh oooooh
January 8th, 2012 at 3:52 pm
It’s nice to watch a game where both QBs are just good old fashioned football players. They are both good human beings too.
January 8th, 2012 at 3:52 pm
You’re not your, moron
January 8th, 2012 at 3:52 pm
Mistic
did you enjoy that Palmer-led 3-game winning streak that got us into sole possession of first place for the first time in 8 years?
Most fans did.
I enjoyed his 350+ outing vs SD last week too and look forward to those coupled with normal D.
January 8th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
303Btch shut up….you’re a newbie so u ain’t read this blog…Many of us from Oakland hate Occupy so shut the fk up
January 8th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
I don’t know who 88 is for the Steelers, but his hold on the DE on that end-around was a thing of beauty. Right out there on the edge and he completely got away with it.
January 8th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 3:50 pm
Racist Ray….Bmore is winning the title this year….its their time
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Flacco cannot beat Brady.
January 8th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
As much as I hate Nailgate, he gets one more year, with a real Dcoord.
January 8th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
us raider fans always gotta deal wit havin 1 thing or the other . like for the last 6 years weve had no offense but our defense has been above average.. except giving up big runs. but now we have a formidable passing game and wallah!! no defense at all again . wheres john marshall when u need him ?
January 8th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
[...] to say anything until Tuesday, when McKenzie is introduced at a 2 p.m. press conference. Source: Oakland Tribune [...]
January 8th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
Edward Teach Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
Mistic,
What a ridiculous statement. Palmer is not my idol. I’m simply stating the reasons that he will continue to be the Raiders’ starting quarterback.
Jason Campbell IS your idol, and you’re still butt-hurt that he’s out. That’s a fact, and it colors every post you make regarding the position. He’s gone, and he ain’t coming back.
As I said, get over it. Or maybe you can just become a fan of the next team he plays for.
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Actually I was commenting on Palmer & hue, jc was nowhere in the post.
If you think a new gm doesn’t want his own picks players & coaches you don’t know football.
Like or not Palmer will be evaluated by Mackenzie, he had a poor season & he will need to perform fast out of the blocks. Especially due to the head coach needing wins to keep his job.
It’s really very simple
January 8th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
raidertalk
welcome aboard the “rational fan” group.
January 8th, 2012 at 3:57 pm
mistic
you think a new GM wants his own players.
where? everywhere? a new 53?
Or will he leave the best players like Palmer and DHB alone?
January 8th, 2012 at 3:57 pm
Campbell is pretty good for a black QB. But, he can’t touch Palmer. I hope JC gets a nice back up job somewhere.
January 8th, 2012 at 3:57 pm
so , uhh. we need one of u bloggers wit no life to research all of mckenzies moves . cus how do we know he will be so rational & good at drafting & personnel moves ?
January 8th, 2012 at 3:57 pm
Palmer is a loser…been one since USC…guess who was his coach at first over there? Lol
January 8th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
IF RAIDER FANS RAN THE SHOW:
Boller would have finished the season.
We go 5-11.
Pryor starts next year (can’t draft Barkley or Jones).
We go 3-13.
January 8th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
Armond,whats goin on young fella? Dhb is someone I pull for,game in game out,an AL pick,and how sweet it is to shut some critics up,a big wideout to go along with the smurfs,DMoore and JFord.Cant wait for the new GM,make a decision on DC,as well as free agents,the draft,etc RAIDERS!!!!
January 8th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
youre right raider ray.. cus dem black qbs should be where they belong . behind sum decent white q.b. that studies his playbook.. i agree
January 8th, 2012 at 3:59 pm
hue made the trade cuz jc got hurt and al davis died. dont understand why thats so hard to fathom. carson does need to get better. i believe his ints are becuz of poor decision making. hue will be here becuz i dont believe mckenzie will want to change too much his 1rst year. this will be a process for several years. i dont expect an overhaul in one season. he will see what has worked and then enhance it. whatever hasnt worked and cant be fixed will be overhauled. there will be a sound defensive philosohpy now. whether its a base 3-4 or 4-3 we will have a plan and the right players to play in it.
January 8th, 2012 at 3:59 pm
I would rather see Kiffin back then watch another year of Hue Jack city.
January 8th, 2012 at 4:00 pm
Flacco can’t beat Brady? Ummmm 09 wildcar playoffs….bmore 33 pats 14 in fagsboro…Racist Ray is dumb as fk…surprised?
January 8th, 2012 at 4:00 pm
yep alex7 .. and rob ryan would be the head coach
January 8th, 2012 at 4:00 pm
armond
most intelligent fans are right there with your train of thought.
January 8th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
Doriangray Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
youre right raider ray.. cus dem black qbs should be where they belong . behind sum decent white q.b. that studies his playbook.. i agree
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I wouldn’t say it like that. But, yeah you get it.
January 8th, 2012 at 4:02 pm
Patriots were weak that year.
January 8th, 2012 at 4:02 pm
Method, relax bro, we are all on the same team.
Throwing fbombs on a blog, LOL.
The facts are since Hue has been a part of the nation:
We are 9-3 in our division
Our offense is respectable again.
Now that the old man is dead, RIP Al, give him a chance with Reggie.
Stop drinking jack and coke or take anger management issues.
Unless anyone on this blog used to be a GM, we all have a “perspective” so I’m sorry if you’re still looking for a job, maybe Hue will hire you to do his nails, lol.
January 8th, 2012 at 4:03 pm
IF RAIDER FANS RAN THE SHOW:
Boller would have finished the season.
We go 5-11.
Rob Ryan becomes our HC by default (no one wants it)
Pryor starts next year (can’t draft Barkley or Jones).
We go 3-13.
Fans wonder why our O doesn’t score points like “back in the 2011 days)
January 8th, 2012 at 4:03 pm
Hahahahaha JC never lost back to back games in Oakland…Palmer? JC doesn’t quit like Palmer did in Cincy…..JC never loses a game where the offense puts up 500 yards….Palmer is a spoiled rich btch from SoCal
January 8th, 2012 at 4:03 pm
hey hendu wassup? i like dhb stepping up this year. almost had 1000 yds and if it wasnt for his coach he wouldve have gotten it. i expect him to be even better this year. excuse while i take care of some jackazz that called me a dimwit.
January 8th, 2012 at 4:03 pm
Mistic,
I know GMs like their own people. Please try and keep up, though. We gave up two high draft picks for the guy, who incidentally did not have a “poor season”, as you say. You can quote INT numbers until you’re blue in the face, but if you look at when and where they occurred the numbers don’t tell the whole story (they almost never do, which is interesting because of all the stat-reliance in here sometimes). You can also quote won-loss record, but maybe you should look at the defense for that one. If the Raiders have an AVERAGE defense during Palmer’s time here we’re watching them play the Steelers right now.
As you say, it’s pretty simple. If you know football, that is.
January 8th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
Alex7 Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 3:57 pm
mistic
you think a new GM wants his own players.
where? everywhere? a new 53?
Or will he leave the best players like Palmer and DHB alone?
………….
I know he wants his own guys becuase ultimately it will be how he is judged on the job. This group now represents an inheritance and guys must play their way into the good graces of the new gm. People may not think it do because we finished 8-8, but in my view a new gm means a rebuilding process as he molds the team according to his vision. No player should be above the process especially in this case, a team that hasn’t won and didn’t make the play offs.
January 8th, 2012 at 4:05 pm
303….you’re a btch and coward and wouldn’t dare say that last line to me face to face…..Hue blew it this year…plain and simple….the 3 div losses all at home……yeah defend that u phaggot
January 8th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
278.doriangray Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 3:51 pm
armond,. who in the fu## cares what john mackey did? its 2012 u dimwit!! oh guess what.. earl campbell ran over linebackers too!! maybe dmac can try that .. hey and while were at it .. maybe mike mitchell can closeline recievers like jack tatum did.. oooh oooooh
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the point im making is simple u dumb punk muthafugga. if you werent so simple maybe you would get what im saying. u lil racist POS talkin about black qb’s needing to sit on the bench. why do you go sit on the back of the bus while we at it, ignorant muhfugga!!
January 8th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
Yo, the Beeech Dawg just got a tug job on the dancefloor, word! Talk about doing the lambada.
Where’d Krappy and his old man Vegas stories go? Can’t believe the old fool actually spent his allowance on tickets to Medieval Times.
Guessing Krappy Wife & Her Bowl Cut got her revenge seducing waiters at Rehab.
Ha ha, not
January 8th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
for $200,000 a year , id consider doin hues nails… no homo
January 8th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
Looks like Pitts is getting the hometown treatment from the zebras
January 8th, 2012 at 4:07 pm
Mistic
you’re absolutely wrong.
A GM is valued just as much for what correct players he kept, along with the ones that he brought in.
January 8th, 2012 at 4:07 pm
The problem with Carson was he was asked to do way too much with no running game last month and the defense giving it up like a Reno Whore.
Put a solid running game with a defense that actually makes stops.
Carson needs to be throwing it around 20-25 x a game.
Too many bloggers full of estrogen on here…
January 8th, 2012 at 4:07 pm
Racist Ray…excuses…you just made a statement that Flacco can’t beat Brady when I rpoved he has….stop scrambling btch
January 8th, 2012 at 4:08 pm
Beeech, what is a tug job?
January 8th, 2012 at 4:08 pm
armond the dufus im still waiting on yur point homey . and since im black & irish i surely am gonna drink sum tequila tonight and throw the finger at your comment . recognize sarcasm ol small minded one
January 8th, 2012 at 4:08 pm
Proved*
January 8th, 2012 at 4:08 pm
solid again 303.
January 8th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
You have a problem with me Method? I will f*ck up your ugly gorilla face.
January 8th, 2012 at 4:10 pm
Edward we disagree. 16 picks (12 dropped) in 8 starts & a 3-5 record is a port season in my view. Maybe that’s all you want from a qb, but I would bet the house on the fact that it isn’t good enough for a coach on a try out or a new gm.
Palmer will have to earn it next year on the feild, & his reputation as a so called elite qb his pro bowl appearances or the people on this blog that worship at his feet will have nothing to do with it.
January 8th, 2012 at 4:10 pm
Ok :
We scored enoiugh against SD, Detroit, and Denver.
If Schitlens makes that catch on 4th and 1, no problem.
Defense gave up24 points in the 2nd half vs Donks
Defense screwed the pooch against SD.
I blame Al , those were his players and his D coach.
I am cool with the aggressive calls, as Hue believes in his players.
You will see next year my friend, Method.
January 8th, 2012 at 4:11 pm
292.doriangray Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 3:57 pm
so , uhh. we need one of u bloggers wit no life to research all of mckenzies moves . cus how do we know he will be so rational & good at drafting & personnel moves ?
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the same we know you will post something stupid. its meant to be that way. and stop frontin, u know damn well u dont have a life. u type like u drunk so i know you home all day. get your azz on wikipedia and look up info on reggie while the big boys in here talk. do it now b1tch
January 8th, 2012 at 4:11 pm
It’s when a shorty gives your weiner a deep tissue massage. Only the stripper who just gave me mine is cross eyed, so I ended up getting two.
January 8th, 2012 at 4:11 pm
Gracis Alex7….
January 8th, 2012 at 4:11 pm
Yawwwwwnnnn 303 ……I been saying Palmer should pass 20-25 times numerous times on this blog….go back to arhcives…u obviously piggybacking my schit!
January 8th, 2012 at 4:11 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
Alex7 Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 3:57 pm
mistic
you think a new GM wants his own players.
where? everywhere? a new 53?
Or will he leave the best players like Palmer and DHB alone?
………….
I know he wants his own guys becuase ultimately it will be how he is judged on the job. This group now represents an inheritance and guys must play their way into the good graces of the new gm. People may not think it do because we finished 8-8, but in my view a new gm means a rebuilding process as he molds the team according to his vision. No player should be above the process especially in this case, a team that hasn’t won and didn’t make the play offs.
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astute post
January 8th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
lol.. u tough guys on this blog remind me of this cool azz cuban dude i knew in florida.. he was arguin wit this big dude ata bar and he kept hollering ” i will fkk yur mother! i will fkk yur mother !”
it was great
January 8th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
Archives*
January 8th, 2012 at 4:14 pm
Alex7 Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 4:07 pm
Mistic
you’re absolutely wrong.
A GM is valued just as much for what correct players he kept, along with the ones that he brought in.
…………
You are agreeing with my point. Guys that perform will be retained, guys that flounder will be out. There will be no one grand fathered in, although there may be a little more patience with recent draft picks that are deemed to have upside, DVD for example.
January 8th, 2012 at 4:14 pm
303 feel good Alexis aka MR aka Sullivan the blog btch and trouble maker loves your posts take a bow and lick his 49er clit
January 8th, 2012 at 4:14 pm
laughing at the clowns in here that kept saying:
“Just wait til D-Coordinators make adjustments on the Broncos O.”
This offense will be back next year, and improve.
January 8th, 2012 at 4:14 pm
Tebow taking care of business, and defying the odds
Hoping Raiders could get someone as motivational and as firey as this kid. Raiders could learn a lot about guts and heart…
This GM talk is good, but the proof is in the players the GM selects, I hope McKenzie has that insight.
January 8th, 2012 at 4:14 pm
313.doriangray Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
for $200,000 a year , id consider doin hues nails… no homo
u know damn well you’d do it for 2 dollas. only homos say that no homo sh1t to try to prove theyre not.
anythingelse lil b1tch?
January 8th, 2012 at 4:14 pm
That steelers defense not looking too good
January 8th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
agreed Mistic
But you know Palmer will be retained. You know this. No one better available, and he showed he can still put up monster games.
January 8th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
hey armond… ” i will f`kk yur mother “
January 8th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
Alex7 Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 4:14 pm
laughing at the clowns in here that kept saying:
“Just wait til D-Coordinators make adjustments on the Broncos O.”
This offense will be back next year, and improve.
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Thats why Raiders need to use all that speed, and look to have a similar way to use all of it, as the Saints do and just outscore people.
January 8th, 2012 at 4:16 pm
Armond Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 4:14 pm
313.doriangray Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
for $200,000 a year , id consider doin hues nails… no homo
u know damn well you’d do it for 2 dollas. only homos say that no homo sh1t to try to prove theyre not.
anythingelse lil b1tch?
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hysterical!
the point is, dont have your nails done, keep it on football
January 8th, 2012 at 4:16 pm
Man, I saw a Danillo Gallinari highlight the other day and couldn’t help but remember his hilarious impression of Brian the Genital’s brother, bricking that end-of-the-game layup against the Lake Show.
I’d love to catch some of his “moves” on TV, but ESPNU doesn’t carry DIII ball.
Word
January 8th, 2012 at 4:17 pm
We scored enough vs den det and sd? We lost…how did we score enough?
January 8th, 2012 at 4:17 pm
and you know odds we bring in a star WR better than DHB is slim. Not many star WRs ever even MAKE free agency.
January 8th, 2012 at 4:17 pm
Dorian, I will fck your mother as long as she isn’t black.
January 8th, 2012 at 4:17 pm
Fair enough, Mistic. We agree to disagree.
Let’s give Carson Palmer a healthy starting WR corps, a healthy DMac, a less-than-awful defense, an offseason and a full training camp and see how he does. My guess is that Reggie McKenzie will have better things to do next year than worry about who his starting quarterback will be. But hey, it’ll play out the way it plays out, right?
January 8th, 2012 at 4:19 pm
LOL, I am funny as sh*t!
January 8th, 2012 at 4:19 pm
edward,
give Palmer all of that? That would be…fair! And…normal! forget that! cut him now!
January 8th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
hey raider ray.. whats the diference between a niqqer q.b. and a retarded baboon ?
January 8th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
Mistress Beecher talking nonsense again….Mizzou is ranked 6th in nation and my cousin isn’t smoking layups…try again…hey Beecher do u have anyone in your family that knows or even plays sports at a high level?
January 8th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
Well so much for my lame ass Teblow prediction of out by the half. This game is making me puke. I know we did not deserve to get in with our crappy play down the stretch but this sheet is hard to take. I wish it was having the same effect on the players. I doubt it though!
January 8th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 4:10 pm
Edward we disagree. 16 picks (12 dropped) in 8 starts & a 3-5 record is a port season in my view. Maybe that’s all you want from a qb, but I would bet the house on the fact that it isn’t good enough for a coach on a try out or a new gm.
Palmer will have to earn it next year on the feild, & his reputation as a so called elite qb his pro bowl appearances or the people on this blog that worship at his feet will have nothing to do with it.
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for the 400th time, there was no QB in free agency or in the 2012 draft (where we would be picking). They gambled, he’s here, and thats that.
unless you thought Chad Henne, Kyle Orton, Brady Quinn or Donovan McNabb was coming in to take us to the next level, or Landry Jones or Ryan Tannenhill in the draft
January 8th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
Alex7 Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 4:19 pm
edward,
give Palmer all of that? That would be…fair! And…normal! forget that! cut him now!
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replace him with WHO? Terrelle Pryor?
and still no draft picks for 2012 and 2013
WTF!??? Are you kidding!?
January 8th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
you guys are watching the NFL evolve more and more into the spread-out college game for those players who were developed that way.
No more forcing guys Tebow and Cam Newton into NFL offenses.
Tailor the offense to them. NFL DC’s struggle defending it.
January 8th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
Hahaha Carson also shows he can put up monster losses
January 8th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
a retarded babboon knows where to put his balls ! lol
January 8th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
remember, 49ers Defensive Coordinator gave up 100 points to the Ducks in 2 games.
These college O’s are tough to defend, especially if you give it time to evolve.
January 8th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
Itsy bitsy raider Ray
January 8th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
maybe god is proving a point with tebow.. u got evil destructive james harrison and booty fondling rothlisberger on one side and jesus`s lil cousin on the other .
January 8th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
Alex,
lol. It’s amazing how Palmer gets bashed in here sometimes considering he had NONE of those things this year.
Those things matter. It amazes me that folks in here completely ignore that.
January 8th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
Jesusraiderjim Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
Well so much for my lame ass Teblow prediction of out by the half. This game is making me puke. I know we did not deserve to get in with our crappy play down the stretch but this sheet is hard to take. I wish it was having the same effect on the players. I doubt it though!
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Tebow has heart, and McCoy (Bronco o coordinator) knows how to use him.
January 8th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
hey B, i know u pissed at this season but we have to accept that we werent ready. u know ive been a big critic of hue. he talked alot of sh!t and failed. i came to the conclusion that this teams failure goes beyond hue. there was a soft mindset with this team before he got here. its gonna take a couple years to get it out. this failure is whats needed to rid ourselves of the way weve done business here. our defensive philosophy has been flawed for almost a decade. switching styles and not getting the right coaches/personnel to fit it.now it will finally start to change this year. hue will get 1 season to right his wrongs or he will be gone. we are building for the long term so we dont fizzle out in 1 year like the buccs. i know you pissed but it is what it is. im mad 2 but i have no choice but to accept it for now.
January 8th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
Method, thanks for reading all my posts. It’s making you smarter
Start telling people out-loud that you understand QBs don’t play defense. Will make you more popular.
January 8th, 2012 at 4:23 pm
raider ray … got to love his racist comment about Hue Jackson being to ghetto … Why does a racist follow the NFL which is 80% black… u should be following cricket… So Raider Ray Hail Hitler.
January 8th, 2012 at 4:23 pm
Doriangray Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
hey raider ray.. whats the diference between a niqqer q.b. and a retarded baboon ?
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Whoa! That is not cool man.
January 8th, 2012 at 4:23 pm
There is no doubt Palmer will be here next year we are stuck with him as hue painted us into a corner with terms of the trade that brought him here. This does not mean that he will keep the starting job if he struggles next year if there is a comparable player waiting in the wings. It certainly does not mean he will be back after next year if he has another poor season like he did this year.
January 8th, 2012 at 4:23 pm
Doriangay and Racist Ray bout to hook up and do a sex ritual on each other at the next klan meeting
January 8th, 2012 at 4:24 pm
lol , raider ray im black dude.. im just trippin with u .
January 8th, 2012 at 4:25 pm
DHB is making good progress. I was really down on him as well but he is clearly doing some hard work and improving his skills. Remember Tim Brown did not start at Wide receiver until around his 4th year.
January 8th, 2012 at 4:25 pm
Armond:
“there was a soft mindset with this team before he got here. its gonna take a couple years to get it out.”
Best lines I’ve read in a long time.
Hue, Kiffin, and Gruden were the only coaches willing to attack that. Kiffin and Gruden had success in their careers. Hue’s next.
January 8th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
When you score 24 points at home, you expect to win, period.
Al choose the defense.
Hue never wanted Bresanahan.
Give hue a chance to choose his defense.
January 8th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
method to my masturbation,,, go play dungeon & dragons u ed hardy wearing , maroon 5 c.d. buyin , purple ford focus driving , , i vote for ron paul lookin dork .
January 8th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
Doriangray Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 4:24 pm
lol , raider ray im black dude.. im just trippin with u .
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LOL, I like it when black guys can laugh at themselves.
January 8th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
Mistic
Palmer’s the most talented QB we’ve had here since Gannon. You noticed that, right? You saw that talent. You realize it’s likely to become more consistent with an actual off-season, and practices with his receivers, and a running game, and a D.
This makes sense, right?
January 8th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
AlexisMR your posts are garbage and you have been ruining this blog for years…..QB Robert Carson Palmer will never win a playoff game…NEVER
January 8th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
doriangay is as black as Pat BOONE
January 8th, 2012 at 4:28 pm
339.doriangray Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
hey armond… ” i will f`kk yur mother “
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349.doriangray Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
hey raider ray.. whats the diference between a niqqer q.b. and a retarded baboon ?
arent u missing a k in your first statement?
January 8th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
RaiderSam Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 4:10 pm
Edward we disagree. 16 picks (12 dropped) in 8 starts & a 3-5 record is a port season in my view. Maybe that’s all you want from a qb, but I would bet the house on the fact that it isn’t good enough for a coach on a try out or a new gm.
Palmer will have to earn it next year on the feild, & his reputation as a so called elite qb his pro bowl appearances or the people on this blog that worship at his feet will have nothing to do with it.
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for the 400th time, there was no QB in free agency or in the 2012 draft (where we would be picking). They gambled, he’s here, and thats that.
unless you thought Chad Henne, Kyle Orton, Brady Quinn or Donovan McNabb was coming in to take us to the next level, or Landry Jones or Ryan Tannenhill in the draft
…………..
My post had nothing to do with why or how Palmer arrived here, so I’m not sure why this directed toward me. However Palmer didn’t take us to any next level, & in fact the team regressed & fell apart with him starting. You may not get that or want to acknowledge it, but he had a poor season & must rebound if he wants to keep the job.
January 8th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
I don’t archive blogs. So I don’t archive or follow anyone.
We all want the same thing.
My glass is half full with this team thats all.
January 8th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
Doriangay and Racist ray wanna make history and be the first male couple to produce offspring
January 8th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
Lefty12 Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
God,I hate both these teams.This is painful.
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Tell me about it. Can you imagine if Denver rolls the table and ends up v. the Pack or Green Bay?
January 8th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
303…no you are just full of schit…just like Hue
January 8th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
We need another cover corner and a fast LB to play in our division.
Teblow and the Donks hanging in there.
January 8th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
Think the steelers pull it off? Hmmmmmm
January 8th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
With no draft picks until Round 5 Our GM has to be studying free agents and ways to free up cap space so expect a lot of renegotiated contracts
January 8th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
Raiders, under Palmer, had first 3-game winning streak since 2002.
Raiders, under Palmer, played meaningful game week 17 for first time since 2002.
The end.
January 8th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
AlexisMR your posts are garbage and you have been ruining this blog for years…..QB Robert Carson Palmer will never win a playoff game…NEVER
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LOL at these NFL “scouts” and predictors that likely haven’t played the game, and call themselves “Raider Fans”. We arent myopic , but never win a playoff game….sounds like a surrender monkey-hater.
Those days of that kind of fan are over.
January 8th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
Armond,does Doug Williams ring a bell,a couple of Super Bowl records,enough said,the Nation is above the race crap,period
January 8th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
best thing bout pitt losing – no 7 rings . whew!i cant stand arrogant pitt fans with their – paint their whole car with steeler crap and flags and stuff .
January 8th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
On an unrelated note, I looked up Zach Miller’s numbers for the year. He caught less passes than Boss did.
Moving to Seattle was a great idea, eh Zach???
January 8th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
Alex7 Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
Mistic
Palmer’s the most talented QB we’ve had here since Gannon. You noticed that, right? You saw that talent. You realize it’s likely to become more consistent with an actual off-season, and practices with his receivers, and a running game, and a D.
This makes sense, right?
………
That is debatable, I don’t really see it that way but none of that matters. He will need to prove as he will be auditioning along with every other player & coach in Oakland. That’s is what happens when a new gm comes to town
January 8th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
for the 400th time, there was no QB in free agency or in the 2012 draft (where we would be picking). They gambled, he’s here, and thats that.
unless you thought Chad Henne, Kyle Orton, Brady Quinn or Donovan McNabb was coming in to take us to the next level, or Landry Jones or Ryan Tannenhill in the draft
…………..
My post had nothing to do with why or how Palmer arrived here, so I’m not sure why this directed toward me. However Palmer didn’t take us to any next level, & in fact the team regressed & fell apart with him starting. You may not get that or want to acknowledge it, but he had a poor season & must rebound if he wants to keep the job.
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He had a poor season – but did he not win v. San Diego? Does he have to tackle people and call defenses as well?
January 8th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
First order of business is getting rid of that junk D-Line and Junk Linebackers
January 8th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
I’ll take that as a compliment.
January 8th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
guess with some,its not,sad
January 8th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
Raiders, under Palmer, had first 3-game winning streak since 2002.
Raiders, under Palmer, played meaningful game week 17 for first time since 2002.
The end
January 8th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
Sadly, with no draft picks…gonna be hard to measurably improve the team.
Thanks Hue
January 8th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
Y’all dubs fans need a win badly.
All y’all in bad moods cussin folks out, lol.
January 8th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
Palmer’s december/january record all time is like 15-21 lol….elite? Palmer sucks
January 8th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
367.Method To My Madness Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 4:23 pm
Doriangay and Racist Ray bout to hook up and do a sex ritual on each other at the next klan meeting
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could dorian be kk’s evil mulatto twin? one is mad he isnt black enuff and the other is mad that he is. dorian is the dark skinned one which is why he’s so mad. dont trip dorian some of these white girls like yall dark ones.
January 8th, 2012 at 4:33 pm
AlexisMR is lying again! JC led a 3 gm win streak last year! Den seattle and kc….or did you forget! MRisms I tell ya lol
January 8th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
WE will be asking Carson Palmer to do something he’s never done in his TEN year career….
Win a playoff game
January 8th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
Mistic
curious. Were you one of the many in here saying JC would improve with a second-year under the same system?
January 8th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
Hilarious! Watching Tebow kill these doubters again….
January 8th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
SnB Offense Defense Specialteams Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
Sadly, with no draft picks…gonna be hard to measurably improve the team.
Thanks Hue
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Not true. We’ll get several compensatory picks, plus whatever Reggie can get from dealing our dead weight.
In Reggie We Trust. We’ll be fine.
January 8th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
OH SNAP! fumble McGahee!!!! Game changer?!
January 8th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
Jhill…Laker fans gotta stop being soft btches and learn basketball
January 8th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
SnB
We asked Jason Campbell to do something he had never done in his career:
Have a winning season. Hue did it
January 8th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
white girls smell funy. but give nice slow warm head .soo , i dunno .
maybe zach miller moved to seattle for beter coffee shops and becus hes a twilight fan .
January 8th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
396,Thank You Alex,for pointing that out
January 8th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
FUMBLE!!
January 8th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
SnB Offense Defense Specialteams Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
WE will be asking Carson Palmer to do something he’s never done in his TEN year career….
Win a playoff game
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Stop crying, get on board, or get out of the way.
January 8th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
jhill…Laker fans also gotta stop driving Jettas all coked out before they involve themselves in the “downlow” lifestyle
January 8th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
Alex7 Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
Raiders, under Palmer, had first 3-game winning streak since 2002.
Raiders, under Palmer, played meaningful game week 17 for first time since 2002.
The end
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He had the most TD passes since Rich Gannon, I dont even know why this is a debate, since he will be the QB in 2012.
Lots of chicken little sky is falling types ….. like Tebow, couldnt Palmer win some games, too?
January 8th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
carson palmer was NOT worth the price of first and second…….PERIOD.
January 8th, 2012 at 4:38 pm
RaiderSam Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 4:31
My post had nothing to do with why or how Palmer arrived here, so I’m not sure why this directed toward me. However Palmer didn’t take us to any next level, & in fact the team regressed & fell apart with him starting. You may not get that or want to acknowledge it, but he had a poor season & must rebound if he wants to keep the job.
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He had a poor season – but did he not win v. San Diego? Does he have to tackle people and call defenses as well?
………….
Which sd game? He turned it over twice in the first game & manged to win eventhough his game was so so. He played ok in the last game but I counted 4 dropped picks. I don’t think gms’ & coaches look at it the way most fans do.
He had a poor season
January 8th, 2012 at 4:38 pm
AlexisMR address your lie about not having a 3 gm win streak since 2002
January 8th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
SnB
We asked Jason Campbell to do something he had never done in his career:
Have a winning season. Hue did it
.
January 8th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
388.hendu Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
Armond,does Doug Williams ring a bell,a couple of Super Bowl records,enough said,the Nation is above the race crap,period
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u would think but hey man its still like that for some.
this is why i wish we did make the playoffs. expect more bs this offseason. just a few picks and a new gm following a disappointing season. this will be the most
chaotic offseason weve had here. this blog is gonna be nuts.
January 8th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
instal the spread option and double wing in oakland for Terrelle Pryor. The successes Newton and Tebow are having bodes well for Pryor. Gives him more potency, more for the D to defend against.
January 8th, 2012 at 4:40 pm
Let’s pause for a second and put ourselves in Reggie McKenzie’s shoes. It would be advantageous if you could trust Hue to work with you and after a positive initial meeting you agree to meet again and iron out a few specifics.
A few hours go by and you find that big mouth Hue has spread it around that he and you are “joined at the hip.”
So my question is, would you ever trust this ego-maniac again.
January 8th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
Victory
who determines “worth”.
Kolb was worth a 1st and 2nd to the Cardinals.
Cutler was worth two 1st rounders AND Orton to the Bears.
Tebow took a 1st, which they traded a 2nd, 3rd, and 4th to get.
January 8th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
Palmer ain’t worth a bag of doritos
January 8th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
Get rid of Pryor. He’s not a future Raider QB. An Al pick. See ya.
January 8th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
u guys can be so dumb.. please 4 one second think bout it . why do u think they hired mckenzie so fast ? hue and him are friends already!
January 8th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
for the type of QBs MIDDLE 1st and 2nd rounders bring,
Palmer was a normal trade.
Again, compare to Kolb, Tebow, and Cutler for similar trades.
January 8th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
I wanna see the new ot rule play out in this game.
January 8th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
GG Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
instal the spread option and double wing in oakland for Terrelle Pryor. The successes Newton and Tebow are having bodes well for Pryor. Gives him more potency, more for the D to defend against.
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Many people will write this off yet tebow has proven you can win in the nfl running spread & option based football. There is no doubt that Pryor can run this kind of offense & the nfl must adjust. Qb can’t be strictly for pocket passers any longer.
January 8th, 2012 at 4:44 pm
was up everybody
January 8th, 2012 at 4:44 pm
Tebow turnover coming up!
January 8th, 2012 at 4:45 pm
Hue and McKenzie share same agent.
That’s a tight circle right there.
January 8th, 2012 at 4:45 pm
AlexisMR won’t address his lie about our first 3 gm win streak since 02….And he isn’t MR? Lol same exact bs for years and is easy to spot
January 8th, 2012 at 4:45 pm
Palmer would have beat the Steelers.
January 8th, 2012 at 4:45 pm
Healing process has begun for me with the hiring of our new gm, have confidence he’ll make the right decisions in getting our franchise going in the right direction with or w/o Hue.
January 8th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
Uh oh “teblow time” can he do it? Hmmmm
January 8th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
alexisMR the agent had nada to do with that! Many guys have same agent and that don’t matter….dumbass
January 8th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
January 8th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
SnB Offense Defense Specialteams Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
WE will be asking Carson Palmer to do something he’s never done in his TEN year career….
Win a playoff game
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Stop crying, get on board, or get out of the way.
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He would have had a chance if we didn’t have the worst f’ing defense in the league.
417 yds.
He did his part.
January 8th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
An agent is essentially your employee. If he is going to keep from being successful, fire his ass.
January 8th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
Great game this has been btw
January 8th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
Pryor would be fun to watch in a jet sweep option offense. The jet sweep with fits & mooore would keep safties & line backers up near the Los. Mix in a little ghost reverse motion & option reads similar to the offense at air force academy & you could really have something unique & very difficult to defend.
January 8th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
alex7 Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
Victory
who determines “worth”.
Kolb was worth a 1st and 2nd to the Cardinals.
Cutler was worth two 1st rounders AND Orton to the Bears.
Tebow took a 1st, which they traded a 2nd, 3rd, and 4th to get.
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Those players were under 26 or younger when those moves were made….Kolb was traded a 2nd round pick and Rogers-Cromartie…..not a 1st and a 2nd.
January 8th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
Raideredout….without Hue is better
January 8th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
Rodgers-Cromartie was a 1st round pick the season before.
Same value.
Actually, he was a PROVEN 1st rounder 1 year removed. Worth more than just a 1st round pick.
January 8th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
Palmer will never lead Raiders to postseason so trade wasn’t worth it….Palmer sucks and hasn’t been good since 05
January 8th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
Well since Al was the one who decided to go back to Oakland, maybe Raiders should move back to LA, or Chicago or something and AL did have something to do with the Raider colors and emblem so that’s got to go, hell, we shouldn’t even call ‘em the Raiders anymore.
Need to get rid of EVERYTHING Al related as he is SATAN incarnate.
January 8th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
Palmer is 32 years old…….
Probably has about 3 years of production left…then the decline which happens quite quickly.
But by that time, we will probably trade a 1st and a 2nd for Tony Romo
Ask Delhomme….
January 8th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
And age isn’t that big of a deal nowadays with the “don’t touch the QB” rule.
Palmer can QB for 5 more years if he wants. Easily.
January 8th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
Yeah, I was in denial at first about Hue’s arrogance/ignorance, but after the whippings in MIA and GB, I really started scratching my head.
January 8th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
LMAO…Method to my madness is funny dude!!! I agree with u obviously. But Alex7 has a very good and fair question. First I did not know cutler cost two first rounds…that was F’in stupid. Same thing with Kolb but both of those were younger qb’s than palmer and they got those guys both at the beggining of the season. To my knowledge giving a first and second especially in the middle of the season has no precedent. The bengals knew Hue was desperate for his own ass so they screwed him in his ass. Palmer would have cost a lot less after the season. Raiders had 4 wins when they got palmer so they got 4 wins for him at the cost of a first an second…..You DO NOT make that dumb ass move when your defense sucks as much as the raiders and when JC and DMAC where averaging amost 30 points a game. You got to look at the big picture and just dont panic for one season like hue did…..
Good question though alex7….
January 8th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
GG Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
instal the spread option and double wing in oakland for Terrelle Pryor. The successes Newton and Tebow are having bodes well for Pryor. Gives him more potency, more for the D to defend against.
———–
Many people will write this off yet tebow has proven you can win in the nfl running spread & option based football. There is no doubt that Pryor can run this kind of offense & the nfl must adjust. Qb can’t be strictly for pocket passers any longer.
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100% right. It’s not just Tebow, but the Panthers have been doing it too. But you need a capable rusher. Pryor is exactly like Newton even better in rushing, all three of them very tough too. RGIII will be coming in too, so the Raiders gotta get with the times, they have a potential start there. The Pat Whites and Denard Robinsons probably harder for them but not impossible. I think Denard is an awesome ball-carrier tho, would be a beast slot receiver if he didn’t make it.
January 8th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
That is the Tebow we like! Throw it in the ground.
January 8th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
Palmer’s track record:
Playoffs, league-leader in completion percentage, 50 more career TDs than INTs, league-leader in TDs.
Just finished with monster game vs SD, after monster games vs Chargers, Lions, Bears earlier.
Comparing that to Delhomme is as bad as the rest of your posts.
January 8th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
How old was Gannon again when Raiders went to the SB?
January 8th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
Palmer threw more INTS than TDs……yeah he did his part lol
January 8th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
Tebow Time is in affect. They will pull the Win. There’s no way we would even been close in this game. Hue would of been on the sidelines puckering out his lips and shaking his head like he did the last 5 games. With no kind of motivation to his team.
January 8th, 2012 at 4:54 pm
Rodgers-Cromartie was drafted in 2008.
The Cardinals then promptly draft Patrick Peterson…meanwhile Cromartie apart of the Philly debacle.
Shrewd cap move by Arizona…probably had Cromartie on the outs anyway — Just opinion and conjecture
January 8th, 2012 at 4:54 pm
Victory
I’d rather make that trade half-way through the season than going the Bears and Colts route.
10 out of 10 times, you try and make the playoffs when they’re in reach.
January 8th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
Raider Ray Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 3:59 pm
I would rather see Kiffin back then watch another year of Hue Jack city.
No escape from Hue Jack City
Reggie McKenzie; “You are incapable of running this organization!”
Hue Jack; “But, but..I’ll get it fixed (starts to stand)
Reggie McKenzie; “SIT YO FIVE dolla ass down, before I make change!!”
“Hue Jack City 2: Return of the Mac”
January 8th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
JakeDelhomme has won playoff games….Palmer?…even TJ Yates has…Palmer? Jay Schroeder has…Palmer?
January 8th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
454.Method To My Madness Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
Palmer threw more INTS than TDs……yeah he did his part lol
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The last game against SD he did his part.
417 yds. and the only int. was cuz Ford fell down.
Yeah. He DID do his part.
January 8th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
SnB Offense Defense Specialteams Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 4:54 pm
Rodgers-Cromartie was drafted in 2008.
The Cardinals then promptly draft Patrick Peterson…meanwhile Cromartie apart of the Philly debacle.
Shrewd cap move by Arizona…probably had Cromartie on the outs anyway — Just opinion and conjecture
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Peterson had mixed reviews – his return ability is incredible, but he got torched in coverage. So far, he’s another Devin Hester.
January 8th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
DJohnny
Gannon, Warner, Hasslebeck
you can QB into your late 30s, easily, especially if you’re not a big scrambler.
January 8th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
Or maybe Big Ben…perhaps he will be a Raider in 5 years…LOL….
You build the team up through the draft when you have people making good picks.
Carson has 3 good years left….saying he’s going to do it beyond that is like these women who think they can have kids into their late 30s and 40s….sure a few do it…but most won’t.
January 8th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
New OT rule in effect.
January 8th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
Will this thing go to overtime!?
what a game…makes the Chief one-and-done look idiotic
January 8th, 2012 at 4:58 pm
RaiderSam lolololol
January 8th, 2012 at 4:58 pm
Nice play by Chump Bailey
January 8th, 2012 at 4:59 pm
SnB
I’ll agree with the 3 good years left.
So, mid 1st rounder, future mid 2nd rounder, for a shot at the playoffs this year, and 3 good years of QB play.
For the beleaguered Oakland Raiders.
Worth it? I say heck yes. Much better than Seymour trade.
January 8th, 2012 at 4:59 pm
Noticing what a clutch QB Roethlisberger is. Palmer is not up to that standard. And the play-calling too vs Hue’s, the down-field aggression, not afraid to strike deep, not over/under throwing targets.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 4:58 pm
RaiderSam lolololol
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Thank you, appears to be an OT
January 8th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
Snb
Your words:
“Palmer is 32 years old”.
“Probably has about 3 years of production left”.
“Carson has 3 good years left”.
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So, who would you go with as QB for the next 3 seasons?.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
Palmer is the #1 and isn’t going anywhere. Glad to have him.
Agree with you GG. Really looking forward to seeing Pryor.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
raideredoutL.A. Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
New OT rule in effect.
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What is the new rule?
January 8th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
SnB you are sounding as ridiculous as Brien and the bigot.HJ traded 2 draft picks-1 this year,1 next.You are trying to make it out that he traded the whole draft away.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:02 pm
Djohnny….palmer is a loser in 2011…healways been a loser
January 8th, 2012 at 5:02 pm
Wow had the center hike the ball the steelers could have won
January 8th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
RaiderCrunch Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
raideredoutL.A. Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
New OT rule in effect.
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What is the new rule?
””””
bout to see for myself
January 8th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
OT!!!
Djohnnyg Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
454.Method To My Madness Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
Palmer threw more INTS than TDs……yeah he did his part lol
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The last game against SD he did his part.
417 yds. and the only int. was cuz Ford fell down.
Yeah. He DID do his part.
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Thank you. And its like another QB is coming, and we have to put up with these “it wasnt worth it” posts until Palmer clinches a playoff spot, then wins one. LOL at these ARM chair Elias Sports “Raider Fans”. Were not myopic, Palmer had a bad season, but this is the decision. stop crying already. F#$K!
January 8th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
Denver’s won the toss
TEBOW….OHHHHHHH
January 8th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
Bob Marley Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
Snb
Your words:
“Palmer is 32 years old”.
“Probably has about 3 years of production left”.
“Carson has 3 good years left”.
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So, who would you go with as QB for the next 3 seasons?.
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I would have told Mike Brown to pound sand and waited till the offseason to make such a move.
Period.
You all think these draft picks are B.S…but that’s the PRIMARY way you get players like Clay Matthews, Von Miller, Aaron Rogers and other high performing players in their prime.
Raiders…we get those players on their downside…twilight of their careers….and it hurts the team in the long run.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
Tebow time
January 8th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
Method thinks Tony Gonzalez is junk, because he’s never won a playoff-game.
Obviously, winning a playoff game is the only way to measure a player’s worth.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
Lefty no he just traded for guy that is a loser and quitter that threw more picks than tds
January 8th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
#472 Thanks J Hill re: Pryor, and all those who believe in Pryor, and spread/option for him, and only 22 yo, got 10+ years potential there.
If Palmer wanes next year, or injured, or his play rises equal to or above Palmer’s thru training camp etc.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
Just fix the crappy defense, that’s all that is needed.
And give HueJax an extension……
January 8th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
Need to completely remove ourselves from the “stench” of Al.
Get out of Oakland and change the name from Raiders to the “Zionist Infltrators”.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
Time to see if teblow can pull it off
January 8th, 2012 at 5:06 pm
I would have kept the 1st round pick.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
I would have told Mike Brown to pound sand and waited till the offseason to make such a move.
Period.
You all think these draft picks are B.S…but that’s the PRIMARY way you get players like Clay Matthews, Von Miller, Aaron Rogers and other high performing players in their prime.
Raiders…we get those players on their downside…twilight of their careers….and it hurts the team in the long run.
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It hurts the team, we complain…we cheer for them anyway, McKenzie comes in
and rights the ship.
its set, we just have to see what happens…maybe McKenzie gets some picks, finds low priced FAs that are effective.
Have faith.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
AlexisMR….name the one position who gets W-L attached to their line?
January 8th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
303Raider Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
Just fix the crappy defense, that’s all that is needed.
And give HueJax an extension……
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Just fix the crappy defense? Sure…and then on the other hand trade two great opportunities to get players that could help that crappy defense
January 8th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
more than half of 1st rounders flop in the NFL.
So, getting a legit starter for a mid-1st rounder?
Sometimes.
It’s a QB and your team needs one?
Oh, easy.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
Fire Hue Jackson….Absolutely….holy shhhhh
January 8th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
Tim Shebow has won a playoff game….has Palmer? Lol
January 8th, 2012 at 5:08 pm
new OT rules basically…
if you score a FG first, the other team is allowed an offensive drive to match it or beat it with a TD.
if you score a TD first, you win.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:08 pm
super wow
January 8th, 2012 at 5:08 pm
UnfVckin believable. I am blowin chuncks right now!!!!
January 8th, 2012 at 5:08 pm
Alex,
Do you think Indy will trade their 1st overall pick?
I mean with Peyton coming back and all….they should look to beef up their defense with a good defense right.
Perhaps Richard Seymour for Indy’s 1st rounder!
January 8th, 2012 at 5:08 pm
WOW
January 8th, 2012 at 5:08 pm
Wow…
January 8th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
method
I’m pretty sure the TEAM has the w-l record next to it.
Yep, just checked.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
Is God a Denver Broncos fan?
January 8th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
I want to vomit. Denver wins in OT.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
Production trumps “woulda, coulda, shoulda,”
January 8th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
Alex7 Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
more than half of 1st rounders flop in the NFL.
So, getting a legit starter for a mid-1st rounder?
Sometimes.
It’s a QB and your team needs one?
Oh, easy.
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Tebow, first pass of OT
WIN
now off to the Steeler espn for suicide watch
January 8th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
I hate Pittsburgh too so its a no-win situation.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
Hahahahahaha Shebow throws for over 300 yards…..he is a better qb than Palmer
January 8th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
Absolutely disgusting…now I am really p&ssed
January 8th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
LOL!
I bet JFB is jumping up and down yelling Tebow, Tebow; Tebow
January 8th, 2012 at 5:11 pm
That is some Fvcked up sheet. I hope our players are pukin too. But you probably need to give a shet first!!
January 8th, 2012 at 5:11 pm
haha
Raider fans would fire LeBeau and Tomlin.
And cut Roethlisberger.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:11 pm
Lesson learned: fix the D and start Pryor in spread/option!
January 8th, 2012 at 5:11 pm
Brien,you are being ridiculous.Take away the 1st 2 games he played and he threw more TDs,games he shouldn’t have even played in.Even in the Donkey game the loss was on the D.If you believe we win against Det,SD,Den,GB,or even Mia with someone else at QB with the D we put on the field,you aren’t as football smart as I thought.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
Hey Alex,
New rule…coach wins a Super Bowl….the coach can lose in the 1st of the playoffs or even have a 4-12 season and come back
January 8th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
Plunk-It Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
Is God a Denver Broncos fan?
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Gotta be
January 8th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
I said position AlexisMR…can you read?
January 8th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
How many times is Denver going to be on prime time next year when the schedule comes out.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
501.alex7 Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
method
I’m pretty sure the TEAM has the w-l record next to it.
Yep, just checked.
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Exactly. Like our defense would have held Denver to 3 points in the second half and Schilens or Murphy or DHB would have made that play.
With our defense we would have never even seen overtime.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
It looks they are going to have to change the OT rules again. Both teams really should get a chance to score.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
Naw we don’t Lefty…Palmer is a born loser
January 8th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
I really can’t belive that the texans & donks both hosted & won a playoff game. Jc led our boys into both buildings & left with big gutsy wins. My how things have changed.
The collar bone killed our season, thanks carson
January 8th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
Welp time for teblow to face brady once again in his house
January 8th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
repeat…lesson learned–fix D start Pryor option/spread
January 8th, 2012 at 5:15 pm
The Steelers just played stupid today. The last three weeks Denver lost because the defenses defended the pass. Steelers were playing run all day. I don’t get it.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:15 pm
Lefty how football smart is trading for a quitting qb who turns ball over and is a career loser?
January 8th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
GG Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
repeat…lesson learned–fix D start Pryor option/spread
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Not so sure about the option/spread stuff as the Raiders aren’t a tough enough team to pull that off…
But I would say that fixing the defense sure does do a lot of good. Good defense still is important…
Hard to convince the Madden Video Game generation of this
January 8th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
alex7 u just made my point that palmer was not worth the picks…Gannon, warner and Hassleback did not cost a damn thing…Historically there have been too many ways to get a quarterback for nothing. You simply don’t freak out and panic and give u so much when your defense sucks!!!
January 8th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
I hate bigots and stupid people and this place is full of them.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
Steelers took a page outta Chuckie D’s playbook
January 8th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
Steelers DBs looked like Raiders..worst part was having to watch horse teeth on the sidelines
January 8th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
Mistic JC is the man sans sliding lol
January 8th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
Brien-
Shebow!
Hahahahahahahahaah!!!!!!!
January 8th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
I can’t believe all this manly CRYING goin on in here.
Man, things don’t go a certain way and everyone and everything is garbage.
Unbelievable!
January 8th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
# BewareofRaiders Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
Welp time for teblow to face brady once again in his house
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I hate Brady and the Pats too, but I am hoping to the moon that they dismantle the Broncos like they did the first time
January 8th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
Both those teams have heart. Something we ARE sorely lacking. We never showed that much energy once in the last six games
January 8th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
458.RaiderSam Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
Raider Ray Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 3:59 pm
I would rather see Kiffin back then watch another year of Hue Jack city.
No escape from Hue Jack City
Reggie McKenzie; “You are incapable of running this organization!”
Hue Jack; “But, but..I’ll get it fixed (starts to stand)
Reggie McKenzie; “SIT YO FIVE dolla ass down, before I make change!!”
“Hue Jack City 2: Return of the Mac”
thats some funny sh!t. i hope it is return of the mac. maybe they could play that mark morrison song at the presser on tuesday as we introduce mckenzie to the NATION. he could walk in all black with a fat rope chain and a nose ring just like morrison did in that video.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
Brady wont keep the game close
January 8th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
Funny how Denver used Tebows weakest asset, the long pass, and just beat Pitt.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
Hahahahahahahha Armchair….you know what’s funnier? Palmer winning a playoff game!
January 8th, 2012 at 5:20 pm
ya there are some racist out there…. Say hello Raider Ray…aka Racist Ray. Hail Hitler to you Ray. Again, why do u watch the NFL…. it is 80% black. Oh, your dumb ass thats why.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:21 pm
521.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
I really can’t belive that the texans & donks both hosted & won a playoff game. Jc led our boys into both buildings & left with big gutsy wins. My how things have changed.
The collar bone killed our season, thanks carson
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Right on cue. The Raiders put up 24 points in Palmer’s FIRST START against Denver (Campbell’s Raiders put up 23, by the way) and the defense totally collapses in the second half, giving the Broncos 38 points and the win.
It’s Palmer’s fault though, of course. I’m sure Jason Campbell would have made sure the defense performed better in that game, lol.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:21 pm
Victory
you realize we were in 1st place, right?
And many people didn’t want to throw the season away, right?
And the NFL is entertainment, right?
Trading for Palmer saved the season and made watching the Raiders worthwhile. And gave us 3 more years of solid play going foward.
all for it.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:21 pm
Jhill…who is a better qb Shebow or Palmer? Lol
January 8th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
VanHeathen Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 1:41 pm
Hue needs to go…
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The problem with that is who comes in?
Moss? Another trainee head coach.
I’m fuk’n tired of us getting trainee head coaches
Kiffin/Cable/Hue—all trainee head coaches.
Say McKenzie, how about bringing in an established head coach that knows what he’s doing?
Bill Cowher? Tony Dungy? They’re not doing anything.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
Oh well…..another week to be offended by the sight of Tebow and that team in another round of playoffs.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
fuggit
January 8th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
and Victory
there weren’t any FA QBs available when our QB went down. Kind of a moot point.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
Well, chalk it up to another week of some really solid semi-pro’s losing their marbles on Tebow.
We were told he would get hurt, benched and never start another NFL game again.
When will people learn?
January 8th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
You know who REALLY deserves a massive amount of respect? John Fox, for having the balls and acumen to go with Tebow BUT to install the offense and continually fine-tune it thru the season, get his D playing to a high standard. Basically mid-season just trash a whole playbook and install a new one so quickly like that is incredible.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
Palmer trade saved season? Hahahahahahahahahaha…Raiders playing in postseason?
January 8th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
Can we package CP and TK for Tebow?
I would throw in Taiwan Jones and Bruce Campbell to make it happen.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:24 pm
Our defense couldn’t stop a shopping cart rolling down an aisle.
That’s the difference here. Pits would’ve put up 40+ points on our d, last 3 games I can’t even remember us recording a sack!
January 8th, 2012 at 5:24 pm
week 17 IS the post-season to a Raider fan.
So yeah, we were
January 8th, 2012 at 5:24 pm
# Method To My Madness Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
Hahahahahahahha Armchair….you know what’s funnier? Palmer winning a playoff game!
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Hahahahaha…I can’t even argue with you man….
And I’m a Carson Palmer supporter.lol
January 8th, 2012 at 5:24 pm
GG
Fox basically told his O-coaches to make it work.
He does get credit for that, I agree.
He also had the coaches who knew the college game and could make it happen. Works well when your assistants don’t suck, and you get to pick them.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:25 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
Well, chalk it up to another week of some really solid semi-pro’s losing their marbles on Tebow.
We were told he would get hurt, benched and never start another NFL game again.
When will people learn?
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It is teh Raiders sitting home beaten, bruised and humiliated……
Hopefully Reggie cleans this shhhh up!
Tebow and the Broncos moving on….next year won’t be any easier for this delicate Raider team
January 8th, 2012 at 5:25 pm
also, objectively/neutrally speaking, that was one of the best games of football i’ve ever seen, and ive seen a million of them.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:25 pm
But Tebow didn’t complete 50% of his passes today, so thusfore, he must suck still.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:25 pm
Denver Broncos as a team played for Fox and Shebow….Raiders wouldn’t play for Hue or Palmer the leaders of the team lol
January 8th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
But Tebow didn’t complete 50% of his passes today, so thusfore, he must suck still.
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Yet they still won the game. How can we even blame our QB if tebow is completing 6 passes a game and still winning.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
548.Just Fire Baby Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
Well, chalk it up to another week of some really solid semi-pro’s losing their marbles on Tebow.
We were told he would get hurt, benched and never start another NFL game again.
When will people learn?
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LMAO!
True Vegas.
On the plus side, I keep making money off these fools.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
How anyone in this room can blame Palmer is beyond me. Boller was not the awnser. Palmer is gonna be the man for the next 3 years unless he gets hurt. We better get us a proven Oh and by the way our defense FVCKIN SUCKED
January 8th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
# RAIDERMAN99 Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
Amidst the doom and gloom pessimism resulting from the Raider implosion down the stretch and the dreadful state of the defense, it should be noted that there were some positive developments this season.
The emergence of DHB as a legitimate WR.
Wiz and DMoore played well and appear to be solid additions.
But the most important development was that the Raiders moved away from the bottom tier, scrub of a QB, Jason Campbell.
This was an essential move.
Whether or not Carson Palmer pans out remains to be seen.
There is deserved skepticism about the Palmer trade. There is a widespread belief that the Raids overpaid for Palmer and that he might ultimately fail to be the franchise QB the Raids desperately need – but the move away from Campbell was an absolute necessity.
Raider fans should hope that another NFL team is foolish enough to sign JC and give him significant playing time. We can use the compensatory pick.
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Yeah, good post.
The Palmer trade can’t be fully judged or evaluated for at least two more years…IF then.
It depends who the Raiders could have POTENTIALLY had with the 17th or 18th pick they would have had this year which Bungals will have.
Is that player going to be superstar? Nobody knows do they?
That’s why they call it a trade. Nobody knows if that 17th or 18th pick is or could have been worth a damn.
At least we know the Raiders finally have a potential top ten QB and the best QB they have had since Gannon was here.
BTW, I took Denver and the money line and won $500 bucks!!
Yeah baby!
January 8th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
Alex7….I love your passion and I get you about the entertainment. But I want a Superbowl and there is NO WAY the raiders were going to get there with their crap defense. I think your a smart guy and my guess you agree that the raider defense sucks ass and was not going to get the raiders to the big game…..I think the raiders were close but that trade really hurt them. JC was scoring about 30 points a game with DMAC too but still the offense was fine when health. They just needed to get a lagit backup qb.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
GG Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
You know who REALLY deserves a massive amount of respect? John Fox, for having the balls and acumen to go with Tebow BUT to install the offense and continually fine-tune it thru the season, get his D playing to a high standard. Basically mid-season just trash a whole playbook and install a new one so quickly like that is incredible.
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Yup….took his team..managed both offense and defense…made the moves and changed the culture.
Raiders…actually got worse breaking the NFL record for penalties…
January 8th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
Home dogs cover.
Old Las Vegas lesson.
Always hits over 60% of the time, every season.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
just last week these posters were trashing Fox for being over-rated and backing into the playoffs.
Fickle Raider fans, swayed every week depending on what happens.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
Qbs I hope Mackenzie keeps tabs on
Teddy brudgewater louisville
Geno smith wvu
Terrance Owens Toledo
Ej manual flo state
Braxton miller Ohio state
Some of these guys are already very good, & a couple of them will be fun to watch as they develop.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
Week 17 isn’t the postseason…sorry AlexisMR your lies don’t fly here lol
January 8th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
533.J Hill Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
I can’t believe all this manly CRYING goin on in here.
Man, things don’t go a certain way and everyone and everything is garbage.
Unbelievable!
jhill i’m like you. this is suppose to be a tough fanbase but people are always whining like its the end of the world. you would think we could show more confidence but i guess its just false bravado. you and i have been just a few of the posters who have had high hopes going into the last few seasons. if anyone should be going crazy its us. most of these guys wait until after the draft to get excited while we are ahead of the bunch. we werent ready for primetime and thats that. next season we will be and u can book it.i believe in this team whether hue and carson are here or not. weve come too far to be whinin lil batches.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
Victory
who was that legit backup QB?
I agree and place 100% of the blame on the D. 100%.
I also think having Palmer for the next few years is an upgrade over JC.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
I don’t blame Carson Palmer for anything. He did the best he could.
I blame Hue for the Raiders falling flat down the stretch, looking 2006ish in the Miami, Green Bay and KC games and for him believing the hype….
I also blame Hue for not thinking about the interests of the team beyond today…which didn’t help one bit.
Coulda missed the playoffs without the deal
January 8th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
And Victory
the goal is to just get into the playoffs.
People were saying the Broncos O had ZERO chance in the playoffs.
Just like you’d say we’d have ZERO chance with our D in the playoffs.
Anything can happen.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
Shut up Brien. We don’t need to hear your trash mouth.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:30 pm
The last play of the game is what I have been telling folks about the Tebow read option.
8 in the box don’t cut it.
You actually need 9 in the box, since the QB is an option to run the ball. #29 of the Steelers was the ninth man creeping in, and they got roasted for it.
This is not a fad, it will last as long as Tebow’s kneecaps.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:30 pm
# RAIDERMAN99 Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
Amidst the doom and gloom pessimism resulting from the Raider implosion down the stretch and the dreadful state of the defense, it should be noted that there were some positive developments this season.
The emergence of DHB as a legitimate WR.
Wiz and DMoore played well and appear to be solid additions.
But the most important development was that the Raiders moved away from the bottom tier, scrub of a QB, Jason Campbell.
This was an essential move.
Whether or not Carson Palmer pans out remains to be seen.
There is deserved skepticism about the Palmer trade. There is a widespread belief that the Raids overpaid for Palmer and that he might ultimately fail to be the franchise QB the Raids desperately need – but the move away from Campbell was an absolute necessity.
Raider fans should hope that another NFL team is foolish enough to sign JC and give him significant playing time. We can use the compensatory pick.
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Yeah, good fair post.
The Palmer trade can’t be fully judged or evaluated for at least two more years……IF then.
It depends who the Raiders could have POTENTIALLY had with the 17th or 18th pick they would have had this year which the Bungals have now.
Is that player going to be a “superstar”? Nobody knows do they?
That’s why they call it a trade. Nobody knows if that 17th or 18th pick is or could be be worth a damn!
At least we know the Raiders finally have a potential top ten QB and the best QB they have had since Gannon was here.
BTW, I took Denver and the money line and won $500 bucks!!
Yeah baby!
January 8th, 2012 at 5:30 pm
Shebow wins home playoff games….Palmer? Lmao
January 8th, 2012 at 5:30 pm
Say all you want about Tebow. Dude can complete the long pass when it is there. His intermediate throws are horrid but he has completed plenty of deep balls this year. You go to sleep playing that dude and then boom he nails one on you.
BTW, going by the JC fan club’s logic, does that make Tebow a better player than JC since he already won a playoff game?
January 8th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
I hate the Broncos and fukkin Tebow so much that I want to punch something. I cannot believe that next week I will be in a large puddle of my own vomit, rooting for the Cheatriots.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
Jason Campbell is a moot point…he’s history….
He’s gone
January 8th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
I’ll take Geno Smith, because he is a pocket passer.
And I would look at EJ Manuel as an undrafted FA, ain’t nobody drafting him, and turn him into a WR a la Ron Curry.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
I hate what the Bears did to their fans.
I’ll take the Hue trade 10 out of 10 times.
A mid-1st round pick is a coin-flip, at best.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
But the good news is that all JC cost the Raiders was a 4th round pick two years down the road…..didn’t hamper the Raiders ability to try and improve the team.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
SnB
under your logic…
The Palmer trade is a moot point. It’s done.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
Plunk…too funny.
It was strange rooting for the Squealers and “she said no” today.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
Shebow is better than JC and Palmer both…he has proved it in january! Proof is in the production
January 8th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
Glad Pitt is not winning another SB this year!
I hope the Ravens go this year and face the Pack in the big game!
However, I think the Pack vs Pats would be an entertaining SB, but I sure as heck don’t want to see the Pats, Niners or Orange Ponies winning the SB this year or ever more for that matter!
January 8th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
558.Just Fire Baby Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 5:25 pm
But Tebow didn’t complete 50% of his passes today, so thusfore, he must suck still.
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Yeah, although he did have four passes over 40 yards in the first half plus one for 52 and one for 58 yards. (sarcasm as is yours).
January 8th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
Edward Teach Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 5:21 pm
521.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
I really can’t belive that the texans & donks both hosted & won a playoff game. Jc led our boys into both buildings & left with big gutsy wins. My how things have changed.
The collar bone killed our season, thanks carson
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Right on cue. The Raiders put up 24 points in Palmer’s FIRST START against Denver (Campbell’s Raiders put up 23, by the way) and the defense totally collapses in the second half, giving the Broncos 38 points and the win.
It’s Palmer’s fault though, of course. I’m sure Jason Campbell would have made sure the defense performed better in that game, lol.
……..
Fact jc won in Denver & Houston this year.
Fact jc breaks collar bone and we are now looking up at the teams we beat win in home playoff games.
Fact Palmer did not get us into the playoffs
Fact Palmer had mor turnover than touch downs
Sorry friend if this offends you but it is simple cold truth.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
alex7 Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
I hate what the Bears did to their fans.
I’ll take the Hue trade 10 out of 10 times.
A mid-1st round pick is a coin-flip, at best.
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Alex,
Then why is it that team’s rarely trade those 1st round picks for veteran players that can “help” now.
If you were Indy….what would you do with that 1st overall pick….they could get a great vet for that pick I am sure….Richard Seymour for a start
January 8th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
Before going to sleep, the bogeyman checks under the bed for Tim Tebow.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
I hate the donks and Tblow too but they are only gonna get better next year. I wish our backs were as hard to bring down as the PROPHET TBLOW
January 8th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
Alex7 Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
I hate what the Bears did to their fans.
I’ll take the Hue trade 10 out of 10 times.
A mid-1st round pick is a coin-flip, at best.
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It was a coin flip when Davis was making the picks. Now that we have a real GM, those picks look a lot more valuable.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:35 pm
The D keep us outta the playoffs not CP3. How can anyone not see that>
January 8th, 2012 at 5:35 pm
hire mike leach as hc and go totally nuts on offense, he has an obsession with pirates too.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
alex7 Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
SnB
under your logic…
The Palmer trade is a moot point. It’s done.
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It is….but Palmer is still on the team and is worth talking about…
Jason Campbell is a free agent and is no longer a Raider
January 8th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
But hey at least JC beat Shebow…Palmer? Lmao
January 8th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
Funny that tebow and thomas were both picked by a coach who got fired and is now working fo rthe teamthey play next week…
great drama unfolding…
January 8th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
Plunk
what’s the reason for hating Tebow? Because he’s a Bronco? Or a decent human? Tebow hate intrigues me.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
Agreed Armond.
I for one am excited about the direction our team is headed in.
Pretty obvious McKenzie will get a DC in here; so I don’t see the problem.
Phucc ALL Doneys B! Tebow sucks; palmer is the best QB in our division.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
Because he’s a Bronco is good enough for me.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:37 pm
This Pittsburgh/Denver game was a game where I wanted both sides to lose.
You have to credit Tebow’s grit. Like I said when he was drafted by Denver, we’re going to have tgrouble with this guy.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:37 pm
alex7 Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
Plunk
what’s the reason for hating Tebow? Because he’s a Bronco? Or a decent human? Tebow hate intrigues me.
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because he’s in and we are out. And he is a Bronco
January 8th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
# Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
Edward Teach Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 5:21 pm
521.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
I really can’t belive that the texans & donks both hosted & won a playoff game. Jc led our boys into both buildings & left with big gutsy wins. My how things have changed.
The collar bone killed our season, thanks carson
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Right on cue. The Raiders put up 24 points in Palmer’s FIRST START against Denver (Campbell’s Raiders put up 23, by the way) and the defense totally collapses in the second half, giving the Broncos 38 points and the win.
It’s Palmer’s fault though, of course. I’m sure Jason Campbell would have made sure the defense performed better in that game, lol.
……..
Fact jc won in Denver & Houston this year.
Fact jc breaks collar bone and we are now looking up at the teams we beat win in home playoff games.
Fact Palmer did not get us into the playoffs
Fact Palmer had mor turnover than touch downs
Sorry friend if this offends you but it is simple cold truth.
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Fact….JC had the best offensive player on the team available when he was playing.
Fact…the DEFENSE wasn’t in quit mode when JC was playing either and the defense wasn’t fully exposed yet.
Chuck B and the defense were completely exposed in the 2nd half of the season…and the players looked like they quit in the 2nd half of games.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
I think Pitt limped into the playoffs after they struggled to end the season. Perhaps they were not as good at the moment as their record indicates. She said no’s bum ankle is a huge issue. I remember that dude used to buy additional time with this scrambling to avoid the sack.
4 of their last 5 games including today, they struggled mightily on offense (except for STL).
January 8th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
Jesusraiderjim Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 5:35 pm
The D keep us outta the playoffs not CP3. How can anyone not see that>
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Let’s just say the people who frequent this place have subpar IQ’s.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
MikieG Says:
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Yep, Im about to make some mollasses and honey glazed hot wings and watch Timmy T just get his a$$ handed to him..Sucks that I absolutely HATE both teams, but I of course Hate Denver More..
Should be the last time we see Tebow start at QB in the NFL though
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I hope the wings turned out better than the prediction.
I told you, you will see him start next week.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
Steelers also were playing all 2nd string on Dline
January 8th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
Palmer all stats no substance no titles not even playoff wins hahahahahahahahaha
January 8th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
Plunk..579…I hear ya… Despise the Donks…
January 8th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
Mistic,
You’re putting it all on the quarterback when there is evedence all over the place that it’s not the quarterback’s fault we didn’t make the playoffs.
It’s so simple and so easy to see, and I’ll say it. Palmer is white, JC is black. You don’t like it that the Raiders have a white quarterback, and it even shows when you post your recommendations for college quarterbacks that the team should consider.
I don’t usually get into the whole racism thing because it’s extremely distasteful, but yours is as clear as day and it’s also extremely distasteful.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
alex7… I here u. we think differently, to me it is all about one thing and one thing only…..Winning the SuperBowl. If you dont win the big game then you failed… Btw, the eagles have a good backup with Vince Young but yes not many teams do.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
Aig
true. Steeler fans probably have PERSPECTIVE and realize how much their injuries hurt the team.
Raider fans? “BLOW THE TEAM UP!” lol
January 8th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
Told you JFB would be in here with his damn Tebow pom poms
January 8th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
DK that’s a lie! Defense was exposed week 2…find another argument
January 8th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
Victory
of course the goal is to win the SB.
But to do that, you have to get to the playoffs. And to get to the playoffs, you have to have a decent QB.
We didn’t.
Now we do. That’s a step. And it gave us a shot THIS year. You never know when you’re going to have a shot. can’t keep building for “the future” when you’re in 1st place already.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
# PlunkforHOF Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
I hate the Broncos and fukkin Tebow so much that I want to punch something. I cannot believe that next week I will be in a large puddle of my own vomit, rooting for the Cheatriots.
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I know who would’ve thunk it? I’m actually rooting for the Patriots next week…smh.
I swear I wanna rematch with Denver so bad. I don’t care if it’s just st a local high school. I just want one more shot with Mcfadden playing!
January 8th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
Told you JFB would be in here with his damn Tebow pom poms
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I like fkn with people who are constantly wrong
January 8th, 2012 at 5:42 pm
Defense was exposed all year.
Great. Everyone agrees.
Problem is the D.
Leave Hue and the O alone, since that was his primary job when Al hired him.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:42 pm
Best college qb is Kellen Moore…Reggie draft him
January 8th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
dumb Raider fans:
“Hue was in over his head!”
“Hue should have been more involved with the D!”
sigh. bi-polar fans.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
I swear I wanna rematch with Denver so bad. I don’t care if it’s just st a local high school. I just want one more shot with Mcfadden playing!
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Hue would just embaress himself even further.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
yeah Method
Just like soft-tossing lefty Cade McNown and Matt Leinert were worth the 1st round picks.
Excellent analysis.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
Best college qb is Kellen Moore…Reggie draft him
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He will go no higher than the 5th round.
Dude is 6′0, 185 dripping wet.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:45 pm
I’ll take Pryor ALL DAY over Tebow.
Would Pryor get the same opportunity to suck for 2/3 of the game?
Pretty sure he could throw 2 decent deep balls a game.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
Jhill…wrong! Best qb in afc west is rivers then shebow…after that? Its a tie
January 8th, 2012 at 5:47 pm
586.Method To My Madness Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
Shebow is better than JC and Palmer both…he has proved it in january! Proof is in the production
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Yes. Your posts are PROOF that you PRODUCE the dumbest football comments I have ever seen on ANY blog.
Are you retarded?
Your “points” would have you laughed off of any legitimate football discussion anywhere.
You are a complte joke.
Why don’t stop wasting blog space with your football stupidity.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:47 pm
J Hill Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 5:45 pm
I’ll take Pryor ALL DAY over Tebow.
Would Pryor get the same opportunity to suck for 2/3 of the game?
Pretty sure he could throw 2 decent deep balls a game.
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Good point. No one is gonna want Pryor but us anyway so we need to develop him, It would be nice to have picked up a QB that actually works out for once and could help us the next 10 years.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:47 pm
Broncos score 20+ points? Win.
Raiders score 25+ points? Lose, and fans bash the QB and OC.
Makes sense huh?
January 8th, 2012 at 5:48 pm
alex7 Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
Plunk
what’s the reason for hating Tebow? Because he’s a Bronco? Or a decent human? Tebow hate intrigues me.
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Also, and this is sure to ignite some flames.. Being a proselytizing, holier than anyone type does not automatically make a person a “decent human”. I mistrust organized religion. More death, torture, and general evil has been done in the name of religion than any other institution of mankind.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:48 pm
David
talking to Method makes you dumber. Just ignore the troll.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:48 pm
Vegas….and is accurate and makes good decisions…those are first tqo things you need in. A title winning qb…plus Moore is a winner
January 8th, 2012 at 5:48 pm
Jesus loves Tebow.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:49 pm
LOL Alex.
You’re right.
I doubt Steeler fan wants Tomlin fired or Big Ben traded.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:49 pm
618-that is why you have such a good time on here.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:49 pm
629.alex7 Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 5:47 pm
Broncos score 20+ points? Win.
Raiders score 25+ points? Lose, and fans bash the QB and OC.
Makes sense huh?
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Bingo!
January 8th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
AlexisMR calling someone a troll is hilarious hahahahahahaha
January 8th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
I’ve watched Kellen Moore play a lot, several times in person.
He lacks the arm strength to throw the deep out, doesn’t take hits well at all and throws off his back foot way, way too often. Has performed very badly when pressured (didn’t happen much with Boise’s schedule but when it did he was not effective).
He’s very smart, however, and if he has time to throw rarely makes a mistake. Might make a good backup in the right system, but I doubt he’ll start anywhere. He ain’t Drew Brees, although folks that haven’t seen him play much do make the comparison.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
Hey now, Ted Haggard was a decent human.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
615.Method To My Madness Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
DK that’s a lie! Defense was exposed week 2…find another argument
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You forgot to add your obligatory lol at the end of your “sentence”.
Do you really laugh out loud everytime you make statement in real life?
You do realize people would recognize that you are mentally disabled when u laugh after everything you say…lol.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:51 pm
Thank God AL is dead. He should have been thrown out of the league or expelled from the partnership entity known as the “Raiders” after the club’s last SuperBowl win in 1983, when he discovered that making money through lawsuits was easier than making money winning football games. AL lost his mojo regarding fielding a championship team 29 years ago, and should be vilified for it.
The past 10 yrs were especially excruciating under AL’s leadership, while Hue Jackson’s tenure as HC was disgusting, at best.
Now Hue must go; McKenzie must attenuate AL’s taint, and purge anything AL lingering in the organization.
Fire Hue now!
January 8th, 2012 at 5:52 pm
B&uce is spot on putting the heat on the Raiders
January 8th, 2012 at 5:52 pm
Matt Leinart was a winner in college too.
Soft tossing pocket-QB lefties never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever make it in the NFL.
Kellen Moore = Cade McNown = Matt Leinert.
Future coach? yeah. Future QB? No.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:53 pm
ahahahaha
January 8th, 2012 at 5:53 pm
Pryor is a far more talented QB than Tebow in the air. And equal if not superior to Newton on the ground. Build it and we will come!
January 8th, 2012 at 5:53 pm
alex7 Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
Plunk
what’s the reason for hating Tebow? Because he’s a Bronco? Or a decent human? Tebow hate intrigues me.
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I liked Tebow right up until he signed that contract with the Broncos.
Have nothing for anyone who supports the Broncos in anything they do or any player who puts on that stupid azz funky orange uniform.
It pisses me off the Romonowski does Raiders stuff on CSN then gets on twitter and talks about Tebow Time and crap like that.
He is really a Broncos fan. He has no business being involved in anything with Raider Nation.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:53 pm
post of the day!
629.alex7 Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 5:47 pm
Broncos score 20+ points? Win.
Raiders score 25+ points? Lose, and fans bash the QB and OC.
Makes sense huh?
January 8th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
This Raider fan is very happy we finally have a legit GM to run our org. Dont care if Hue gets replaced.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:55 pm
I always said, I actually think Tim Tebow THINKS he is Jesus Christ. I truly believe that.
That is the type of confidence you need in your team leader and QB.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:55 pm
#648.. Aig. I agree 100%
January 8th, 2012 at 5:55 pm
You guys whining about the defense are way late to the party.
While B&uce, Rockstar, Dknight and a few others were yelling for change there…the rest of you were saying everything is cool on the D….just have to beef up the offense….
Junk about “If the offense would just score more”…”the defense is gassed”
The team failed in one regard…the penalties….ridiculous to be the worst of all time…giving the opponent an extra 100 yards a game
January 8th, 2012 at 5:55 pm
Yeah, Kellen Moore ain’t that good. Exactly what EdwardTeach said about ‘why’. Anyone who has watched enough of him can see that.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:55 pm
J Hill Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
Told you JFB would be in here with his damn Tebow pom poms
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Disgusting.
Sorry, but any Raiders fan rooting for the Donks and celebrating their QB is an embarrassment.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:55 pm
Davina….I laugh out loud when I fk the women in your family and take their money while running up their credit…I laugh even louder when marshmallow men like you think you can ever do schit about it….ask AlexisMR about palmer leading us on first 3 gm win streak since 02 lololol
January 8th, 2012 at 5:56 pm
626.Method To My Madness Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
Jhill…wrong! Best qb in afc west is rivers then shebow…after that? Its a tie
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That’s too not far off but you underrate Palmer too much and he’s a better pure QB than Tebow.
Tebow though has real grit, a real need to win the fuk’n game.
Check the intensity out on that guy’s face. The only Raider I see with that much committment is DHB.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:56 pm
Edward Teach Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
Mistic,
You’re putting it all on the quarterback when there is evedence all over the place that it’s not the quarterback’s fault we didn’t make the playoffs.
It’s so simple and so easy to see, and I’ll say it. Palmer is white, JC is black. You don’t like it that the Raiders have a white quarterback, and it even shows when you post your recommendations for college quarterbacks that the team should consider.
I don’t usually get into the whole racism thing because it’s extremely distasteful, but yours is as clear as day and it’s also extremely distasteful.
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I never said ” it’s all on the quaterback”. I have only admitted that he is one of the players that played poorly as we crawled to the finish. Palmer being the qb means his poor play is one of the big reasons for his 3-5 record. Pointing this out only bothers those that worship at his feet.
By the same logic it also follows that you are the one that is trying to make this a race issue. In fact you are so consumed by race hatred that you have to examine any list of qbs’ & break them down into race. What does it matter or why does it bother you because some of the qbs I like are black?
I would say examine your own condition before attempting pass judgment.
Amerikkka the beautiful? Sure
January 8th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
Pryor, Tebow and Cam….all have one thing in common. They were the biggest contributors to their teams winning in college. That’s why I liked all 3 when they came out. Pryor will be fine as a future prospect for us.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
Clean house Reggie!
January 8th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
aig-raiders Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
This Raider fan is very happy we finally have a legit GM to run our org. Dont care if Hue gets replaced.
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Agreed….well…I will accept the decision if Hue isn’t replaced….
January 8th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
Interesting stat just heard on NFLN.
4 times in NFL history, has a team won it’s divsion and hosted a playoff game against a team that had 4 or more regular season wins than they did.
All 4 times, the home team.
Win your division, that’s what it is all about.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
alex7 Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
SnB
under your logic…
The Palmer trade is a moot point. It’s done.
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It is….but Palmer is still on the team and is worth talking about…
Jason Campbell is a free agent and is no longer a Raider
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If JCampbell is smart and can put his ego aside, all he needs to do is think things out. He can get $3M as the BU-QB at Oakland. He already has chemistry and is well liked here. He can draw big bucks here for the next 6-8 years and not get all banged up and still have a boatload of cash in the bank. Chances are he’d also get a SB ring or two. That’s not a bad deal in my book.
He may find a team that will let him start but then again, maybe not. If he does, he has to start all over again with a weak team & will take a beating over he years. In either event his best future decision would seem to be in Oakland. I hope he really thinks it out well.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
wasbanned Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 5:53 pm
alex7 Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
Plunk
what’s the reason for hating Tebow? Because he’s a Bronco? Or a decent human? Tebow hate intrigues me.
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I liked Tebow right up until he signed that contract with the Broncos.
Have nothing for anyone who supports the Broncos in anything they do or any player who puts on that stupid azz funky orange uniform.
It pisses me off the Romonowski does Raiders stuff on CSN then gets on twitter and talks about Tebow Time and crap like that.
He is really a Broncos fan. He has no business being involved in anything with Raider Nation.
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He did play for a long time for the Donks before coming to the Raiders. I think he’s the on guy in the universe who I can give a pass for rooting for both teams.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
648.aig-raiders Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
This Raider fan is very happy we finally have a legit GM to run our org. Dont care if Hue gets replaced.
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I agree with that brother. The guy is a great pick for GM.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:58 pm
Disgusting.
Sorry, but any Raiders fan rooting for the Donks and celebrating their QB is an embarrassment.
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How did that 14 point spread you predicted work out for you?
January 8th, 2012 at 5:58 pm
From my lips to Reggie’s ears…
Mike Leach HC (or at least OC)
Terrelle Pryor QB
January 8th, 2012 at 5:58 pm
New to this blog.. Are you kidding me tho Tebow just beat the Pittsburgh Steelers out of anyone, AFC defending champs! GM needs to really evaluate this team. Anyone else think McClain needs to slim down like Von Miller?
January 8th, 2012 at 5:59 pm
Drew Bees had no arm and was small blah blah….Moore isn’t a loser and is smart unlike Palmer
January 8th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
joker94583 Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
Clean house Reggie!
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first order of the day…get rid of our scholarship program. I fully expect Reggie to get us football players and not reach like Al has been with track stars.
January 8th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
I like Tebow a lot. I said before the season started that he was a better quarterback than Jason Campbell.
He’s a man. He’s not a pretty boy p…y like Tom Brady.
January 8th, 2012 at 6:01 pm
I agree with that brother. The guy is a great pick for GM.
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Still can’t believe we actually got a hot commodity in the NFL and we will no longer be that crazy org.
January 8th, 2012 at 6:01 pm
Mistic,
You’re not fooling anyone, and trying to turn the tables on me for pointing out the obvious is laughable.
Do you not read your own posts?
January 8th, 2012 at 6:02 pm
Disgusting.
Sorry, but any Raiders fan rooting for the Donks and celebrating their QB is an embarrassment.
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Just who do you see doing that dikhead?
January 8th, 2012 at 6:02 pm
Comparing Tebow to Palmer is as ludicrous as it gets.
I hope the Donks stick with Tebow next season … and at this point they really have no choice. He did play well today, I’ll give him that, but he was a dumpster fire against Buffalo and KC and the only reason he had a chance to do what he did today is because we gave it to him.
January 8th, 2012 at 6:03 pm
AIG and Palmer in college? Hahahahahahahaha he had one good season and was there for 5 years! Palmer wasn’t reason why or the biggest factor why USC won games in 02!
January 8th, 2012 at 6:03 pm
Tebow, Newton and Terrelle all have another thing in common….immense (i mean IMMENSE) confidence, and will to win.
January 8th, 2012 at 6:03 pm
The hatred for Tebow stems from the phony abortion issue.
The socialist want state mandated abortions and Tebow slipped throught the cracks.
They won’t let this happen again, USA, USA!
January 8th, 2012 at 6:03 pm
Sad to say the Raiders could’ve hosted a playoff game “if” they would’ve, should’ve, could’ve won. Run DMC would be back and all our defense had to do was play tough D. Rush the passer, and the secondary feeds off of it and gains confidence. Chimdi Chewka better be healthy next season and ready to go!
January 8th, 2012 at 6:04 pm
I could give a F about the Bronco’s and I hope they don’t win the Super Bowl.
But excuse the F outta me if I ain’t going to gloat a little while all you were wrong while I was right (for this year) about Tebow.
You don’t like it, trying being right sometime.
January 8th, 2012 at 6:04 pm
SnB and Vegas generally been voice of reason on this blog besides myslf…good job fellas…give em Hell!
January 8th, 2012 at 6:05 pm
Palmer has already won the division championship against Balt and Pitt. Good enough for me. didnt follow him in college.
January 8th, 2012 at 6:05 pm
Kellen Moore isn’t a loser, but his TANGIBLES don’t stand out enough in the big league. While small skinny QBs can make it, they’re more the exception, much rarer. Moore at least has the intangibles tho in spades.
January 8th, 2012 at 6:06 pm
Tebow is turrible.
Today he wasn’t, but for most of those games they were winning and for the last three in a row they lost he was utter garbage.
The idea he’s a special QB is a complete media fabrication.
January 8th, 2012 at 6:06 pm
“This is not a fad, it will last as long as Tebow’s kneecaps.”
If college’s can grow qbs as large and as fast and deft on his feet as Tebow, it may actually grow.
Still, Pitt decided not to rush him, daring him to throw. With receivers that can get open either because they are good or because the opponent’s secondary isn’t good, he will always be able to get first downs and eventually, he’ll either complete a long pass, as he did several today, or he’ll run for big yardage.
Face it; teams still haven’t figured out how to defense him. He threw some really bad balls, yet still beat them.
Would have been instructive to see just how Pitt fared if they had not had so many injuries.
January 8th, 2012 at 6:06 pm
Best qb in afc west is rivers
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The guy who has missed the playoffs the last 2 years?
The guy who finished 8-8?
The guy who threw all the picks?
January 8th, 2012 at 6:07 pm
Anyhow today was hopefully even more evidence for Reggie to can hue’s sorry ass….good day fellas
January 8th, 2012 at 6:07 pm
Fran Tarkenton, not built like Tebow for sure, still drove defenses crazy with his ability to extend plays. Either he ran or he completed passes even though opponents always thought they should be able to beat him and his arm wasn’t great at all.
January 8th, 2012 at 6:07 pm
Edward Teach Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 6:01 pm
Mistic,
You’re not fooling anyone, and trying to turn the tables on me for pointing out the obvious is laughable.
Do you not read your own posts?
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I don’t have to try and turn any tables I just referenced what you wrote. You brought up race because that is who you are.
January 8th, 2012 at 6:08 pm
Twocents Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 6:03 pm
The hatred for Tebow stems from the phony abortion issue.
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Nah…I think people get sick of bible thumpers. Palumalu is a VERY devout Christian. I guess Jesus liked Tebow’s prayers better. But you never hear Troy yap about God to the media on a weekly basis.
January 8th, 2012 at 6:08 pm
Would have been instructive to see just how Pitt fared if they had not had so many injuries.
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Three very good players missing from their defense today; Casey Hampton, Ryan Clark and Brett Kiesel. Those guys had been big contributors for the Steelers on defense this year.
January 8th, 2012 at 6:08 pm
Kellen Moore is a tricky case. He’s got the accuracy and the smart decision making ability — which I believe are the two most important qualities to play QB in the NFL — but he is so frail and has such physical question marks that I’m not sure.
January 8th, 2012 at 6:08 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
Hahahahahaha Shebow throws for over 300 yards…..he is a better qb than Palmer
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Cool, go cheer for Denver, Hater.
RAIDER NATION NOW, RAIDER NATION FOREVER!!!!
January 8th, 2012 at 6:09 pm
JB,you fail to take into account our new GM has no ties to the guy.When you look at how JC was thought of around the league before the old man traded for him,I doubt he is on McKenzie’s list.
Also,from what I’ve heard Romo doesn’t necessarily root for the Donkeys,he just respects the fire Tebow shows.Many of us can’t stand the guy but I’d love to see that fire in more Raiders.
January 8th, 2012 at 6:10 pm
Come on–you know Philip Rivers is a quality qb. He had a mediocre year just as his team did.
Still, I’d take him over Palmer in a heartbeat, even though I like Palmer.
I like River’s fiery side too. He’d make a great Raider. While Kenny Stabler’s hands didn’t wave all over the place when one of his receivers or blockers screwed up, he certainly yelled at them when warranted. I saw that many times. I’d like to see that from a Raider qb.
January 8th, 2012 at 6:10 pm
Chris In NY Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 6:08 pm
Kellen Moore is a tricky case. He’s got the accuracy and the smart decision making ability — which I believe are the two most important qualities to play QB in the NFL — but he is so frail and has such physical question marks that I’m not sure.
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half of his passes would be batted down, and he’d be rolling out 50% of the time…shorter QBs are hard adjustments for receivers to make.
Flutie had most of his success in the CFL…but after watching Tebow
why not? He’s only 5th or 6th round pick, anyway.
January 8th, 2012 at 6:10 pm
Kellen Moore would be fine in any NFL team so long as their OC calls plays that fits his arm strength. Definitely not Hue. Last year, Hue was dialing up bombs when he knew darn well Gradkowski can’t do it. But that’s Hue for you.
January 8th, 2012 at 6:10 pm
Jhill…rivers won playoff games and has won division four…count em four times….fk has palmer done?
January 8th, 2012 at 6:11 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 6:10 pm
Jhill…rivers won playoff games and has won division four…count em four times….fk has palmer done?
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Pissed off a lot of cry baby surrender monkey “Raider Fans”?
January 8th, 2012 at 6:11 pm
For every Tarkenton and Brees there are a hundred who didn’t make it. Moore we can’t say ‘for sure’ won’t amount to anything, just the odds are low.
Can’t help myself…Mike Leach, want.
January 8th, 2012 at 6:11 pm
I would certainly hope that beating Balt and Pitt twice in one year is a whole lot more challenging than playing the Raiders, Donkeys and Chiefs yearly.
January 8th, 2012 at 6:12 pm
J Hill Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 6:06 pm
Best qb in afc west is rivers
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The guy who has missed the playoffs the last 2 years?
The guy who finished 8-8?
The guy who threw all the picks?
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Who else would you put there? Carson Palmer is the only other QB in the conversation, but based on the last 2-3 years of history you’ve got to give it to Rivers.
After Rivers and Palmer I’m not sure. Maybe Orton? Then Tebow. Then Cassel. Quinn could also be in that debate for 3rd, but we haven’t seen enough of him to base a case on. Regardless, big drop off after the first two.
January 8th, 2012 at 6:13 pm
Mike Leach HC
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The college coach who had the kid in the closet?
January 8th, 2012 at 6:13 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
MikieG Says:
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Yep, Im about to make some mollasses and honey glazed hot wings and watch Timmy T just get his a$$ handed to him..Sucks that I absolutely HATE both teams, but I of course Hate Denver More..
Should be the last time we see Tebow start at QB in the NFL though
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I hope the wings turned out better than the prediction.
I told you, you will see him start next week.
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You did. I honestly can’t believe it. This is why I don’t bet on anyone but myself.
As an aside: The wings were the best I ever made. I like em spicy, sweet, savory and falling off the bone, not deep fried. Just fantastique. Wish you coulda had a few.
January 8th, 2012 at 6:13 pm
NinerSamantha….spare me I go to every damn game and Shebow is better than Palmer…beat Palmer won division and did what Palmer never will do….win a home playoff game! Choke on that u jcat!
January 8th, 2012 at 6:13 pm
Mistic,
It’s not who I am. I don’t care if the Raiders’ QB is from Mars, as long as he plays for my team. If you want to go through the archives, be my guest.
I’ve read a lot of your posts, and there’s a common thread. There’s a common thread in mine too, but it doesn’t involve the race, creed or color of anyone playing for the Raiders.
Just because I notice racism when I see it doesn’t mean I’m a racist.
January 8th, 2012 at 6:13 pm
McClain sucking has nothing to do with his weight….
January 8th, 2012 at 6:13 pm
Aig-Raiders Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 6:08 pm
Twocents Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 6:03 pm
The hatred for Tebow stems from the phony abortion issue.
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Nah…I think people get sick of bible thumpers. Palumalu is a VERY devout Christian. I guess Jesus liked Tebow’s prayers better. But you never hear Troy yap about God to the media on a weekly basis.
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Tebow uses the media for a platform for his charitable causes. But he’s a ratings bonanza because people chime in on blogs, twitter, etc.
Plus he engineers some wild finishes. Football purists hate it, because it makes their “analysis” go to crap.
As Raider fans, you should hope he does well, because he’s and underdog, like we are. Hue runs a lot of gadget plays, and Tebow is proving that; if run correctly, it works.
The more Tebow succeeds , the more the mobile Terrelle Pryor is looking like a genius pick
January 8th, 2012 at 6:14 pm
As of now Palmer looks up at tebows’ donkey balls. Tebow had a far better season and. Ow has what Palmer doesn’t, a playoff win.
I will only change my take on pryor if the raiders commit to changing the offensive philosophy. He has no shot in the offense that Palmer runs or the offens that jc ran. I do belive he could be very good in a run based option offense. This seems more attractive if you consider our wide outs. Our wr group doesn’t have a guy that will catch 100 passes in a season, but they all can flat out fly. A jet sweep or reverse action would serve them well, coupled with deep passing and solid play fakes. I would be very excited to see this indeed
January 8th, 2012 at 6:14 pm
RaiderSam Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 6:08 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
Hahahahahaha Shebow throws for over 300 yards…..he is a better qb than Palmer
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Cool, go cheer for Denver, Hater.
RAIDER NATION NOW, RAIDER NATION FOREVER!!!!
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Sam, you’re mistaken.. I hate Tebow, and might disagree (rarely) with the B@uce. But you have no call to name him a hater. Brien is all Raiders, all the time, more so even than myself or anyone I could name. You should apologize.
January 8th, 2012 at 6:15 pm
I have always had respect for the Patriots. The only time I have rooted against them is when they played the Raiders. I hope we see a Pats and Packer Super Bowl.
January 8th, 2012 at 6:15 pm
Denver has a team that plays defense, and the Raiders do not. That is why Denver is going to New England, and not our team!
January 8th, 2012 at 6:16 pm
J Hill Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 6:13 pm
Mike Leach HC
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The college coach who had the kid in the closet?
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Hahahaha
January 8th, 2012 at 6:16 pm
Brien is a fake Raider fan. That loser was an Al Davis fan.
January 8th, 2012 at 6:16 pm
I’m not a fan Samantha…don’t insult me like that!
January 8th, 2012 at 6:16 pm
PlunkforHOF Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 6:14 pm
RaiderSam Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 6:08 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
Hahahahahaha Shebow throws for over 300 yards…..he is a better qb than Palmer
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Cool, go cheer for Denver, Hater.
RAIDER NATION NOW, RAIDER NATION FOREVER!!!!
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Sam, you’re mistaken.. I hate Tebow, and might disagree (rarely) with the B@uce. But you have no call to name him a hater. Brien is all Raiders, all the time, more so even than myself or anyone I could name. You should apologize.
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Get on board. Palmer isnt going anywhere , its fair to criticize him, and discuss it, but HE ISNT GOING ANYWHERE. HE WILL BE THE QB next year.
Your “protest” is duly noted, and i do apologize.
But, people arent facing reality. “Shebow” is advancing because he has heart and guts, and his players believe.
Maybe if the “fans” believe, and stop crying with every move Hue makes, our team would believe in itself, as well.
I FREAKING APOLOGIZE.
January 8th, 2012 at 6:17 pm
Method only likes the Raiders when they do things the “Al Davis” way.
January 8th, 2012 at 6:17 pm
ethod To My Madness Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 6:13 pm
NinerSamantha….spare me I go to every damn game and Shebow is better than Palmer…beat Palmer won division and did what Palmer never will do….win a home playoff game! Choke on that u jcat!
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Stop hating and back your team, goddamn it.
(forgive me Tebow, I am a Raider fan, and I know not who are trolls)
January 8th, 2012 at 6:17 pm
yep exactly, he’s fking crazy, at least as OC. guy is very left field.
January 8th, 2012 at 6:18 pm
685.luvmarvhub Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 6:07 pm
Fran Tarkenton, not built like Tebow for sure, still drove defenses crazy with his ability to extend plays. Either he ran or he completed passes even though opponents always thought they should be able to beat him and his arm wasn’t great at all.
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This is true in fact you could say Tarkenton invented it.
January 8th, 2012 at 6:18 pm
OMFG! The only thing that is wrong with the Raiders is the defense! The DEFENSE! That’s it! It’s a big f’ing thing! Fix that and we win 11 games this year.
January 8th, 2012 at 6:18 pm
Yes Albert aka MR wants to see Pats…he respects cheaters hahahahahahahaha
January 8th, 2012 at 6:18 pm
Oh and MR, kindly piss up a rope
January 8th, 2012 at 6:19 pm
Raider Ray Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
Method, great minds think a like, right? You and me both want Hue Jack fired. Who would you like to see replace him. I wouldn’t mind seeing Rob Ryan get a shot.
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You have got to be effin kidding. Worst idea I’ve heard so far this year.
January 8th, 2012 at 6:20 pm
But excuse the F outta me if I ain’t going to gloat a little while all you were wrong while I was right (for this year) about Tebow.
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What were you right about?
Tebow is terrible. I told you he would lose the last 3 games of the season and we would win the division.
The Tebow part of it was dead on! You LOLd at the thought that Orton would beat Tebow in Denver. You could not have been more wrong!
We told you that Pittsburgh was a wounded duck and playing them at home instead of going to Houston was an advantage. You were WRONG about that too, lol!
Tebow hasn’t done a damn thing. Agree with Chris and 90% of the players in the league that the guy is TERRIBLE and I am VERY happy that the Donkeys are stuck HAVING to play him next year.
January 8th, 2012 at 6:20 pm
MikieG Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 6:18 pm
OMFG! The only thing that is wrong with the Raiders is the defense! The DEFENSE! That’s it! It’s a big f’ing thing! Fix that and we win 11 games this year.
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Yup 100% correct. Yet, these other yoyo’s on here think they know it all.
January 8th, 2012 at 6:20 pm
Rob Ryan=total fail
January 8th, 2012 at 6:20 pm
All USC qbs suck and shall always suck…Barkley has a chance maybe…but they all blow
January 8th, 2012 at 6:21 pm
I actually think a lot of the raider defense problems are do to their middle linebacker McClain. I spend a lot of time watching him and he does not take care of his responsibilty.
January 8th, 2012 at 6:21 pm
beach Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 6:15 pm
Denver has a team that plays defense, and the Raiders do not. That is why Denver is going to New England, and not our team!
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Thank you. Not sure if the Tebow lovers in here are just trolls or what, but if not this is a disgrace and these jokers saying Tebow is somehow better than Palmer should be banned from the blog.
January 8th, 2012 at 6:21 pm
You all in here talking woulda, coulda, shoulda,
When you miss the playoffs…time for change…and big change.
Reggie McKenzie is just the 1st piece….he will separate the wheat from the chaft real quick and get to the bottom of this mess.
You all can be rest assured there WILL be some interesting roster moves……have to free up cap space and get more picks somehow.
January 8th, 2012 at 6:22 pm
With Reggie here, you guys know we are going to start getting highly sought after candidates now rather than having them avoid us like a plague.
January 8th, 2012 at 6:22 pm
B&uce,
Keep hittin the dreamers right between the eyes.
Production trumps everything!
January 8th, 2012 at 6:23 pm
I back my team…why do you think I want Hue and Palmer gone?
January 8th, 2012 at 6:23 pm
728.Chris in NY Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 6:21 pm
beach Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 6:15 pm
Denver has a team that plays defense, and the Raiders do not. That is why Denver is going to New England, and not our team!
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Thank you. Not sure if the Tebow lovers in here are just trolls or what, but if not this is a disgrace and these jokers saying Tebow is somehow better than Palmer should be banned from the blog.
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+1
January 8th, 2012 at 6:23 pm
aig-raiders Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 6:22 pm
With Reggie here, you guys know we are going to start getting highly sought after candidates now rather than having them avoid us like a plague.
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Which is why I hope Reggie opens up the coaching search!
January 8th, 2012 at 6:24 pm
victory Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 6:21 pm
I actually think a lot of the raider defense problems are do to their middle linebacker McClain. I spend a lot of time watching him and he does not take care of his responsibilty.
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and having a defensive line that doesn’t clog running and having a front 7 that can’t hold the edge worth shhhhhhhh
January 8th, 2012 at 6:25 pm
You don’t fire the general practitioner after he does his duties competently. He may sent you to a specialist to correct the ailments that he has not specialized in.
The general is Hue, the practitioner. Hue fixes most of the ailments. He Did his job well last as the specialist as well as this year as the General. Defense specialist is Chuck. well, how well did he fair dealing with the ailments of the Raiders as specialist.
Hue has most of the answers but not all of them. Hue should have a superior ,(GM) as most coaches do. He stated he diagnosed the team after this season so let him provide the proper treatment to better the team. Some treatment plans take longer than a year. If he starts losing ground with the regime he prescribes only then do you fire the general.
January 8th, 2012 at 6:25 pm
later b
January 8th, 2012 at 6:25 pm
SnB…I try lol…until then see ya later…RIP Mr Davis….die Hue and Robert Carson Palmer!
January 8th, 2012 at 6:27 pm
u got to keep hue as coach as long as he gets behind the GM. The offense works so dont mess with it. Trade palmer bring back JC….lol. I actually dont think the raiders can get big mac for palmer so they are stuck with him…
January 8th, 2012 at 6:28 pm
I say hue should let al saunders call the plays and he can chime in about 50% of the time just not full time because his play calls are sometimes -__-
January 8th, 2012 at 6:28 pm
Idea for a new billboard:
Mr Davis, please hire a GM!…oh, nevermind.
January 8th, 2012 at 6:31 pm
It sucks to see steelers come limping into wildcard playoff matchup and not think that could/should of been the Raiders. I’m happy with whatever Mckenzie does. Lets face it although Hue turned around offense defense was franchise worst and penalties NFL worst. That happened on his watch.
January 8th, 2012 at 6:31 pm
Edward Teach Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 6:23 pm
728.Chris in NY Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 6:21 pm
beach Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 6:15 pm
Denver has a team that plays defense, and the Raiders do not. That is why Denver is going to New England, and not our team!
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Thank you. Not sure if the Tebow lovers in here are just trolls or what, but if not this is a disgrace and these jokers saying Tebow is somehow better than Palmer should be banned from the blog.
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+2
January 8th, 2012 at 6:32 pm
Albert Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 6:17 pm
Method only likes the Raiders when they do things the “Al Davis” way.
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We see how effective that way was 2003-2010
January 8th, 2012 at 6:33 pm
WAY OFF THE TOPIC BUT,DID EVERYONE SEE THE $$ THE 49ERS ARE ASKING 4 THERE VERSION OF PSL’S..GOOD GRIEF..
January 8th, 2012 at 6:34 pm
727.victory Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 6:21 pm
I actually think a lot of the raider defense problems are do to their middle linebacker McClain. I spend a lot of time watching him and he does not take care of his responsibilty.
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And yet, when he’s not in, they are worse.
So how is it McClaine’s fault?
January 8th, 2012 at 6:35 pm
So SnB …
When your new GM doesn’t make all this big change you are suggesting, will you still be singing his praises?
January 8th, 2012 at 6:35 pm
Tebow’s last three games with Denver’s playoff hopes on the line:
11/22 194 yards, 0 TDs, 0 INTs
13/29 185 yards, 1 TD, 3 INTs
6/22 60 yards, 0 TDs, 1 INT
Palmer’s last three games with Oakland’s playoff hopes on the line:
32/40 367 yards, 1 TD, 0 INTs
16/26 236 yards, 1 TD, 2 INTs
28/43 417 yards, 2 TDs, 1 INT
Palmer played more than well enough to win the two games we lost over that stretch. If our D played as well as the Broncos D did over the last 9 games of the season we would’ve beat Denver, Detroit, San Diego and maybe even Miami. We would’ve run away with the division and been in contention for a first round bye.
January 8th, 2012 at 6:36 pm
If Hue stays, I’d like to see Sanders call the plays from the box and just have Hue manage the team.
January 8th, 2012 at 6:37 pm
I just realized that I will be forced to root for the Cheatriots on the 10th anniversery of the Tuck Rule game.
The bullet in the head is sounding more attractive.
January 8th, 2012 at 6:37 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 6:36 pm
If Hue stays, I’d like to see Sanders call the plays from the box and just have Hue manage the team.
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It will be an interesting presser on Tuesday…what I wouldn’t give to be in that “interview” meeting Monday…..
January 8th, 2012 at 6:38 pm
victory Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 6:21 pm
I actually think a lot of the raider defense problems are do to their middle linebacker McClain. I spend a lot of time watching him and he does not take care of his responsibilty.
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I agree. If you’re assessing blame for the Raiders D this year I think it’s Chuck B and RoMac and everyone else is far behind.
Would not be upset for a second if Reggie sacks both these guys as his first order of business.
January 8th, 2012 at 6:39 pm
PlunkforHOF Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 6:37 pm
I just realized that I will be forced to root for the Cheatriots on the 10th anniversery of the Tuck Rule game.
The bullet in the head is sounding more attractive.
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Maybe a similar call goes against the Pats.
January 8th, 2012 at 6:39 pm
Tom Brady will not keep the game close
January 8th, 2012 at 6:41 pm
Genital, the Gallinari flub is one of your cousin’s signature moves!
Instead of fighting the truth, you should hire that attorney from Seinfeld and sue his pants off.
DIII bball laugh track IN EFFECT
January 8th, 2012 at 6:41 pm
BewareofRaiders Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 6:39 pm
Tom Brady will not keep the game close
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Key thing is to get up on Tebow by 14 at least (unless you’re the Saints)
January 8th, 2012 at 6:41 pm
I like Brady and BB. The Patriots are a lot like the 70s Raider teams. You should at least respect them.
January 8th, 2012 at 6:42 pm
MR.. see #721
January 8th, 2012 at 6:42 pm
728.Chris in NY Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 6:21 pm
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Thank you. Not sure if the Tebow lovers in here are just trolls or what, but if not this is a disgrace and these jokers saying Tebow is somehow better than Palmer should be banned from the blog.
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I don’t see any Tebow lovers in here Chris.
Just who are you talking about?
You got something to say, say it.
January 8th, 2012 at 6:43 pm
751.RaiderSam Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 6:37 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 6:36 pm
If Hue stays, I’d like to see Sanders call the plays from the box and just have Hue manage the team.
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It will be an interesting presser on Tuesday…what I wouldn’t give to be in that “interview” meeting Monday…..
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You and me both Sam.
January 8th, 2012 at 6:43 pm
englandraider…. good question.
My issue with McClain is soley to do with stopping the run. I watch the D line hold there ground and not getting pushed back or turned. It is the MLB responsibility to stop the run between the two guards. I saw McClain was very slow to respond or read the situation. I often saw him not blocked or in posistion to make a play. He usually watch the back run passed him as he started chasing him 10+ yards past the line of scrimmage….
You r right that Blackshear is worse…goes to show u that they should not even think of going to a 3-4…. I love Arron Curry though!!!
January 8th, 2012 at 6:43 pm
WTF, is this Tebow dude for real? Is he the 2nd coming or some ish? If he is we may never win our division.
Theres schit flying around twitter about how he threw for 316 yards,coincidence? pretty soon they will be calling him Tebow 3:16 smh
January 8th, 2012 at 6:44 pm
738,Brien,youve got problems,young man,wishing ill will on folks,IMO.Hate issues come to mind,whats up with that,its a friggin game,chill
January 8th, 2012 at 6:46 pm
Broncos=Steelers=Jets=Chiefs=Patriots=Chargers=Cowboys=49er’s; all are Raiders rivals;
No team in the NFL has more rivals than the Raiders.
January 8th, 2012 at 6:46 pm
Chris In NY Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 6:35 pm
Tebow’s last three games with Denver’s playoff hopes on the line:
11/22 194 yards, 0 TDs, 0 INTs
13/29 185 yards, 1 TD, 3 INTs
6/22 60 yards, 0 TDs, 1 INT
Palmer’s last three games with Oakland’s playoff hopes on the line:
32/40 367 yards, 1 TD, 0 INTs
16/26 236 yards, 1 TD, 2 INTs
28/43 417 yards, 2 TDs, 1 INT
Palmer played more than well enough to win the two games we lost over that stretch. If our D played as well as the Broncos D did over the last 9 games of the season we would’ve beat Denver, Detroit, San Diego and maybe even Miami. We would’ve run away with the division and been in contention for a first round bye.
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What ifs and excuses belong in the same trash bin in fairyland. It’s far better to see things for what they truly are. Instead of comparing a mere 3 game stretch it is better to compare both of their entire season. Tebow outplayed Palmer this year, blew him out head to head, and now owns a playoff win that Palmer would give his left testi for.
Nope as if now tebow > Palmer
Effn’ great
January 8th, 2012 at 6:46 pm
Palmer’s last three games with Oakland’s playoff hopes on the line:
32/40 367 yards, 1 TD, 0 INTs
16/26 236 yards, 1 TD, 2 INTs
28/43 417 yards, 2 TDs, 1 INT
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Interesting to note that Palmer’s biggest game came with DMoore and Jacoby Ford back in action. Having those two (especially Moore) on the field enabled DHB to get a little relief, coverage-wise, and have 9 catches for 130 yards. Moore’s 78 yarder in that game gave the Chargers someone else to think about besides DHB. If the defense played in the Detroit and Charger games like they did in the KC game we would be division champions and would have hosted a playoff game today.
January 8th, 2012 at 6:47 pm
IF YOU R NOT THE OAKLAND RAIDERS,U R A RIVAL..
January 8th, 2012 at 6:47 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 6:42 pm
728.Chris in NY Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 6:21 pm
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Thank you. Not sure if the Tebow lovers in here are just trolls or what, but if not this is a disgrace and these jokers saying Tebow is somehow better than Palmer should be banned from the blog.
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I don’t see any Tebow lovers in here Chris.
Just who are you talking about?
You got something to say, say it.
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Umm. There are. And I did.
A few alleged Raiders fans celebrating Tebow, the Broncos victory and having the balls to say he’s somehow a better QB than Carson Palmer.
January 8th, 2012 at 6:48 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 6:46 pm
Broncos=Steelers=Jets=Chiefs=Patriots=Chargers=Cowboys=49er’s; all are Raiders rivals;
No team in the NFL has more rivals than the Raiders.
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Amen. There was always a comeback game …. I remember it well.
January 8th, 2012 at 6:48 pm
Raiders need linebackers more than they need defensive backs.
This draft is deep with LBs, Raiders need to get one with one of our first two selections; 3rd or 4th round compensatory selection; the good ones will all be gone by our regular 5th round selection
January 8th, 2012 at 6:48 pm
I’m sure the Steelers were hoping the Raiders won the division. The whole league knows that Hue is incapable of planning his way out of a f’n cat box.
January 8th, 2012 at 6:49 pm
LAKE SHOW HOMIES STAND UP N REPRESENT
Yo, just docked the Reggae Party Boat and am shacking up at the Ritz Bar with the ladies to watch the Lakes “Fizz the Grizz” (patent pending on that sweet phrase).
Bynum is sure to get wiggity on Gasol, show him who da big dawg in town b. And Barnes is gonna go muy loco (crazy) with that Coop-style D. Represent.
Now gotta sneak over to the pool to light this spliff and wash the volcanic cocoa butter tanning cream off my pecs.
MO FIZZLE WIT MY NIZZLE
January 8th, 2012 at 6:49 pm
Tebow beat Palmer because our defense was a complete disaster in the second half and the Broncos had a punt return TD where about 87 illegal blocks went uncalled.
January 8th, 2012 at 6:49 pm
Its now time for the patriots to stop/shut up that teblow ts. Because if they beat the pats all you will hear is SB -__- what they should doos thank SD and the sorry ass raiders defense for getting them where they are. Screw tebow i cant wait for them to lose. Just got a week to deal with this bs until it finally ends in new england
January 8th, 2012 at 6:50 pm
Tebow completed less than 50% of his passes (as per usual) in that game for 124 yards. He did not beat us. The Donks won in spite of Tebow.
January 8th, 2012 at 6:50 pm
Raiders need linebackers more than they need defensive backs.
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You can’t be serious.
Give me our starting secondary next season.
January 8th, 2012 at 6:52 pm
Guys,
It’s not just about the QB.
Palmer swept the toughest division in the AFC with The Bungles, arguably the laughing stock of the NFL.
Why not support Carson and see the positives?
All that negativity will give you erectile dysfunction.
What has Soup ever won?
January 8th, 2012 at 6:52 pm
631.alex7 Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 5:48 pm
David
talking to Method makes you dumber. Just ignore the troll.
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ALL RAIDERS??? What the heck is your defintion of “fan”?
He’s telling us all how the QB of our team “sucks” and is gloating over any negative stats he can scrape up about him and following it with a “lmao”.
Yeah. Laughing at our QB and rooting against him.
What a great “fan”. Gimme a break.
January 8th, 2012 at 6:52 pm
If Marion Barber doesn’t completely come unglued at the end of the Bears-Broncos game or Prater doesn’t convert a 59 yarder then the Tebows lose their last four and are nowhere near the playoffs.
January 8th, 2012 at 6:52 pm
I think I’m turning off the TV until next Sunday.. The amount of people lining up for Teblow’s nutsack will make me hurl on a daily basis.
January 8th, 2012 at 6:53 pm
768.Chris in NY Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 6:47 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 6:42 pm
728.Chris in NY Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 6:21 pm
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Thank you. Not sure if the Tebow lovers in here are just trolls or what, but if not this is a disgrace and these jokers saying Tebow is somehow better than Palmer should be banned from the blog.
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I don’t see any Tebow lovers in here Chris.
Just who are you talking about?
You got something to say, say it.
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Umm. There are. And I did.
A few alleged Raiders fans celebrating Tebow, the Broncos victory and having the balls to say he’s somehow a better QB than Carson Palmer.
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You named them? I missed that.
Name them again because I don’t see any Tebow fans, just football fans talking about the merits of different players.
For example, I think Drew Brees is fuk’n terrific, does that make me Saints fan?
January 8th, 2012 at 6:53 pm
Why not support Carson and see the positives?
All that negativity will give you erectile dysfunction.
What has Soup ever won?
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Haters gonna hate.
January 8th, 2012 at 6:54 pm
The reason the Donks won the West is that there defense played well when it mattered.
tebow just happened to be there.
There Defense won them this Division,, which is why we lost it!
Our defense gave up the 2nd most frickin points in Franchise history, 433!!!!!!
January 8th, 2012 at 6:54 pm
Hue is and will be the Raiders coach. Get Over It!!!
Palmers the best QB in the division Period. Get Over It!!! Yeah I said it.
January 8th, 2012 at 6:56 pm
Armond,
If we could sign Marshawn Lynch as a FA, would you take a #1 pick for DMac?
January 8th, 2012 at 6:58 pm
J Hill Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 6:56 pm
Armond,
If we could sign Marshawn Lynch as a FA, would you take a #1 pick for DMac?
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That’s tempting.
January 8th, 2012 at 6:59 pm
625.J Hill Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 5:45 pm
I’ll take Pryor ALL DAY over Tebow.
Would Pryor get the same opportunity to suck for 2/3 of the game?
Pretty sure he could throw 2 decent deep balls a game.
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no the internet gm YA says he isnt a real qb.he should be dumped immediately before he can prove himself. seriously i cant wait to see pryor.u know the morons in here would call for him to be benched but they praise tebow and his 10 completions a game. it wouldnt even matter if pryor made game changing plays. the fire we would like our players to have is already inside of pryor. he will be the qb to offset this tebow madness. i wouldnt be surprised to see mr tatoo and baby jesus fight for afc west supremacy in a few years. carson is okay for now but i really believe we will have our own tebow dilemma with pryor in a few years.
January 8th, 2012 at 7:00 pm
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/ann_killion/01/04/raiders.jackson/index.html?sct=nfl_bf3_a3
Not to change the subject, but I guess I might be. What the heii crawled up Killion @$$ that she hates the Raiders so much? Did she get left at the alter by Mark davis? Did she try out for the cheerleader squad and they told her she’s not a grandma yet? I mean really, she can’t think of anything to write about so she bashes the Raiders?
January 8th, 2012 at 7:02 pm
Hue does not need to call playa and take more control of the team instead of riding the pine. All those penalties he should be up the players asses and threat to bench whoever causes a penatlty regardless who they are or fine em. The bad Defensive play calling, he should be all up in the dc ear or fire him(which he should have been done) especially if your name is chuck bresnahan
January 8th, 2012 at 7:04 pm
carson is okay for now but i really believe we will have our own tebow dilemma with pryor in a few years.
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Our QB situation is set.
We have Pryor on a long term contract for very cheap. He can sit another year or 2 and just soak it all in.
If for some reason he has to play sooner, I know he can AT LEAST do what Tebow is doing.
January 8th, 2012 at 7:05 pm
the chiefs won the division last year and now the donkeys. we will be next in line this coming season. we have a new gm that is considered to be the best front office exec available. thats like getting the top FA on the market except reggie will be better cuz he will build an organization. if he is as good as advertised we will dominate the west and the afc. the afc west is gonna be very tough just like the old days and i love it. now all the teams will get back to that good old fashioned hatred we were accustomed to.
January 8th, 2012 at 7:05 pm
England,
Don’t know why you’re getting your panties twisted about me calling out the Tebow supporters. Wasn’t even referring to you. Here are a couple of examples of the kind of thing I was talking about but there were others too:
January 8th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
I like Tebow a lot. I said before the season started that he was a better quarterback than Jason Campbell.
He’s a man. He’s not a pretty boy p…y like Tom Brady.
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
Before going to sleep, the bogeyman checks under the bed for Tim Tebow.
January 8th, 2012 at 7:05 pm
soup has won the same thing “robert I am addicted to pics” Palmer has won……………..Dick.
January 8th, 2012 at 7:05 pm
Armond,
I have to agree with you on the Pryor take. I would love to see very creative spread option system implemented for him. He definitely is good enough to hit a few deep routes off play action.
January 8th, 2012 at 7:05 pm
morilla Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 6:58 pm
J Hill Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 6:56 pm
Armond,
If we could sign Marshawn Lynch as a FA, would you take a #1 pick for DMac?
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That’s tempting.
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Yep..Where do I sign..?
January 8th, 2012 at 7:07 pm
Raiderbuck Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 7:00 pm
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/ann_killion/01/04/raiders.jackson/index.html?sct=nfl_bf3_a3
Not to change the subject, but I guess I might be. What the heii crawled up Killion @$$ that she hates the Raiders so much? Did she get left at the alter by Mark davis? Did she try out for the cheerleader squad and they told her she’s not a grandma yet? I mean really, she can’t think of anything to write about so she bashes the Raiders?
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I kind of felt that San Jose Mercury writers know that the San Jose market is pretty much owned by the Raiders and always have been due to its latino make-up. San Jose is technically a territory of the Giants, then by proxy Niners.
January 8th, 2012 at 7:09 pm
PlunkforHOF Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 6:52 pm
I think I’m turning off the TV until next Sunday.. The amount of people lining up for Teblow’s nutsack will make me hurl on a daily basis.
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Can you imagine if they get to the Super Bowl?
Giants, Green Bay or New Orleans will get hardly any coverage!
January 8th, 2012 at 7:09 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 6:53 pm
768.Chris in NY Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 6:47 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 6:42 pm
728.Chris in NY Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 6:21 pm
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Thank you. Not sure if the Tebow lovers in here are just trolls or what, but if not this is a disgrace and these jokers saying Tebow is somehow better than Palmer should be banned from the blog.
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I don’t see any Tebow lovers in here Chris.
Just who are you talking about?
You got something to say, say it.
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Umm. There are. And I did.
A few alleged Raiders fans celebrating Tebow, the Broncos victory and having the balls to say he’s somehow a better QB than Carson Palmer.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++_++++++
You named them? I missed that.
Name them again because I don’t see any Tebow fans, just football fans talking about the merits of different players.
For example, I think Drew Brees is fuk’n terrific, does that make me Saints fan?
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It’s different. When a QB is clearly great like a Brees or Manning or Brady or Rodgers or even a rival like Elway, then that’s one thing.
But when it’s your main rival and their QB has posted some of the worst quarterbacking performances in recent history but lucks out wins in some of those games anyway, and the media jumps on board it’s infuriating enough. But then when you’ve got supposed Raiders fans in here eager to jump on this B.S. bandwagon it’s just sickening.
January 8th, 2012 at 7:10 pm
But when it’s your main rival and their QB has posted some of the worst quarterbacking performances in recent history but lucks out wins in some of those games anyway, and the media jumps on board it’s infuriating enough. But then when you’ve got supposed Raiders fans in here eager to jump on this B.S. bandwagon it’s just sickening.
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Chris, say what you want, that ending was a thriller, and out in NY, Manning has had some stinker games and ran around and made similar crazy plays (David Tyree catch over R.Harrison in SB comes to mind)
January 8th, 2012 at 7:10 pm
Raiderbuck,
It will be interesting to see what she writes next. The Raiders got (according to just about everyone that knows about these things) the best GM candidate available, and from the defending Super Bowl champions, no less. In my mind, that was as big as the 49ers bringing in Harbaugh last year.
I know she always has a bone to pick with the Raiders, but it’s going to bear watching how the media portrays the the team now that Al is gone. My guess is that they’ll remain skeptical (and who wouldn’t?) until such time as McKenzie rights the ship, which I am confident he will. Hopefully sooner rather than later
January 8th, 2012 at 7:11 pm
I m just curious why this Introductory press conference is scheduled for Tuesday & not Monday. Is Reggie McKenzie meeting w/ all coaches on Monday and going to decide their fate? Has anyone heard if Elliot Wolf coming w/ Reggie? Hue should b good coach if we can get a real DC who commands respect from players and is known as no nonsense guy (I m sure someone from Green Bay connection). We average 10 penalties per game which is a joke, fix that first, get good DC & bring in some decent players on defense who can tackle!!! Lets go Reggie McKenzie Era and bring Winning Team to Oaktown,,,,,,,Lets start w/ that!!!
January 8th, 2012 at 7:12 pm
791.Chris in NY Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 7:05 pm
England,
Don’t know why you’re getting your panties twisted about me calling out the Tebow supporters. Wasn’t even referring to you. Here are a couple of examples of the kind of thing I was talking about but there were others too:
January 8th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
I like Tebow a lot. I said before the season started that he was a better quarterback than Jason Campbell.
He’s a man. He’s not a pretty boy p…y like Tom Brady.
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
Before going to sleep, the bogeyman checks under the bed for Tim Tebow.
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I don’t wear panties Chris, I’m not from New York.
The only one I see you naming there is Vegas.
The other ones you don’t name.
The only comments I’ve seen on here from Vegas about Tebow we’re right on the money.
I think you’re in error there. Just because a man makes a judgement on a player doesn’t mean he’s pulling for him.
January 8th, 2012 at 7:13 pm
That fking article is the worst thing I have ever read and I now feel dumber for reading it, That stupid bich obviously has some type of deep hate for the Raiders.
January 8th, 2012 at 7:14 pm
Elliot wolf is staying in GB
January 8th, 2012 at 7:15 pm
Tim tebow owns us
January 8th, 2012 at 7:16 pm
Let’s see:
Sean Payton gave up some of his own money to hire Gregg Williams as DC.
Gary Kubiak didn’t get over the hump until they hired DC Wade Phillips.
Mike McCarthy’s team took the next step once Dom Capers was hired as DC.
Andy Reid missed the playoffs for the 1st time in the last 4 years when he neglected the DC position and decided to go with an OL coach there.
Those are some of the best offensive minds around, Payton and McCarthy have rings, Reid is among the winningest active coaches.
Now Hue Jackson isn’t anywhere near those guys just yet, that’s obvious.
Point is, even the best offensive minds around need or have needed a hand with their own Defense, just like Hue does now.
Interesting that Payton and McCarthy, winners of the last 2 Super Bowls, both call their own plays and both had to go get a big-name DC in order to maximize their team’s potential all the way to a title.
Give Hue a decent DC, warn him about the flags and see how far can he take us.
When you average 26 ppg and 500 yards of offense in your last 2 must-win home games and you don’t win, you deserve another shot with a competent defense.
January 8th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
804.BewareofRaiders Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 7:14 pm
Elliot wolf is staying in GB
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That’s too bad.
You got a link on that?
January 8th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
How does tim teblow own us when he is 1-1 against us?? hmm now of he was 2-0 against us then yeah but no
January 8th, 2012 at 7:18 pm
731.SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 6:22 pm
B&uce,
Keep hittin the dreamers right between the eyes.
Production trumps everything!
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YOU should be the last one talkin. one minute you love what’s going on and then you hate it. where’s all the
JA-DARREN-BEY sh!t you talked? youre as flimsy as the rest and have the nerve to talk about putting people in their place.you said we had enuff on defense and now we dont cuz we didnt win?how convenient of you
January 8th, 2012 at 7:18 pm
Hsb Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 7:11 pm
I m just curious why this Introductory press conference is scheduled for Tuesday & not Monday. Is Reggie McKenzie meeting w/ all coaches on Monday and going to decide their fate? Has anyone heard if Elliot Wolf coming w/ Reggie? Hue should b good coach if we can get a real DC who commands respect from players and is known as no nonsense guy (I m sure someone from Green Bay connection). We average 10 penalties per game which is a joke, fix that first, get good DC & bring in some decent players on defense who can tackle!!! Lets go Reggie McKenzie Era and bring Winning Team to Oaktown,,,,,,,Lets start w/ that!!!
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They need a quick start like a 9-1 run, that would definitely shut up a lot of people.
January 8th, 2012 at 7:19 pm
@ # 806
I agree with u Bob Marley, 110%!!!
January 8th, 2012 at 7:21 pm
805,for now,see what the New Year brings us,RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!
January 8th, 2012 at 7:23 pm
@#810
RaiderSam,
Its not possible w/ current defense & defensive mindset, need whole sale changes to that unit.
January 8th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
I STILL THINK THE RAIDERS WHERE GOING TO DRAFT TEBOW.DENVER TRADED UP AND GOT HIM.NO PROOF,JUST WHAT I HEARD.
January 8th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
Hmmm Pryor with his 4.3 speed with dmac , jones dhb Moore & ford, ok I’m in. The possibilities are endless. Boot legs, speed options, read options, jet sweeps, reverses, speed screens, draw plays and do on. I’m intrigued
January 8th, 2012 at 7:26 pm
785.J Hill Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 6:56 pm
Armond,
If we could sign Marshawn Lynch as a FA, would you take a #1 pick for DMac?
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could be one of the greatest backfields in the history of the game. no way in hell i give that away. if we had lynch instead of bush we wouldve played pittsburg 2day even with our defense and had dmc back. do you think we wouldve lost that game? hell naw!!
January 8th, 2012 at 7:33 pm
794.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 7:05 pm
Armond,
I have to agree with you on the Pryor take. I would love to see very creative spread option system implemented for him. He definitely is good enough to hit a few deep routes off play action.
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ive been tryin to say that pryor is a playmaker who can be groomed to play at a efficient level with a few years on the bench. he also has a passion for winning that shows on the field. we need someone who inspires this group beyond just his play but also with his energy. dude can play but needs to learn.we have the team in place around him. beef up that oline while our wrs get more experienced and we’re set on offense. we will build that defense up within 2-3 years.
January 8th, 2012 at 7:34 pm
Hsb Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 7:11 pm
I m just curious why this Introductory press conference is scheduled for Tuesday & not Monday.
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Because the BCS national championship is on Monday.
Professional courtesy……and we don’t want to be upstaged.
January 8th, 2012 at 7:37 pm
816,Got me pumped up again,DMac must stay a RAIDER,PERIOD
January 8th, 2012 at 7:39 pm
I’m more than intrigued about Pryor.
Like any rookie QB, I think he does need to sit for a few years though.
Very happy with Palmer for a couple more years while we transition to
January 8th, 2012 at 7:41 pm
# alex7 Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
I hate what the Bears did to their fans.
I’ll take the Hue trade 10 out of 10 times.
A mid-1st round pick is a coin-flip, at best.
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Exactly. People act like that mid round 1st rounder is already a “superstar” and he hasn’t even been picked yet. Crazy.
January 8th, 2012 at 7:45 pm
There’s no question I’d take Lynch over Bush, Armond.
And I’ve been right there with you on mixing in DMac as a WR.
I think our offense with Lynch, Bush, and Jones complimenting our passing game is good enough to get us 27 pts plus per game.
If I could fill a couple of GLARING defensive needs by trading DMac in the above scenario, I’m pulling the trigger.
I’d take a 2 and a 3 to be honest. I think McKenzie can get us a starting NT and a starting S with those 2 draft picks.
January 8th, 2012 at 7:47 pm
815.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
Hmmm Pryor with his 4.3 speed with dmac , jones dhb Moore & ford, ok I’m in. The possibilities are endless. Boot legs, speed options, read options, jet sweeps, reverses, speed screens, draw plays and do on. I’m intrigued
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exactly and dont forget all of the deep passes he will connect on. he was reported to be learning as much as he could from carson and jc. he texted hue that he was ready when jc got hurt. the man is a gamer and has all of the intangibles tebow gets credit for. the offense would be unpredictable
January 8th, 2012 at 7:49 pm
J Hill Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 6:50 pm
Raiders need linebackers more than they need defensive backs.
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You can’t be serious.
Give me our starting secondary next season.
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I say this because we have got to stop the run; stopping the run is the primary responsibility of the linebackers unit, not the secondary; DBs are simply the last defense.
also I still think Chekwa could be something special.
Branch is the only DB I’m concerned about losing, all others can be traded and/or cut for either performance and/or salary reasons.
January 8th, 2012 at 7:50 pm
Pryor will never come close to being as good as Tebow or Cam Newton.
January 8th, 2012 at 7:50 pm
Packer beat writer Bob McGinn via his twitter account:
The #Packers have lost R. McKenzie to #Raiders but ascending scout Eliot Wolf isn’t going anywhere. Wolf likely to be next head of pro dept.
January 8th, 2012 at 7:52 pm
# RaiderRetribution Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 6:48 pm
Raiders need linebackers more than they need defensive backs.
This draft is deep with LBs, Raiders need to get one with one of our first two selections; 3rd or 4th round compensatory selection; the good ones will all be gone by our regular 5th round selection
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I agree. This years draft is loaded with LB’s and potential 3-4 conversion OLB’s.
They need to draft at least two with their 3 round comp picks or one in the 4th as well. Try to draft BEASTS with smarts, good technique, discipline and upside, who have high character and good work ethic. Leaders.
Then look to get a big athletic TE, another physical smart safety who can cover and can play some CB and find a NT type to replace Big John and learn from Seymour.
Maybe find a legit full time blocking FB also.
They also need to sign a vet SAM LB who can also be a backup MIKE and teach RoMac how to be a pro. That’s if they stay with a 4-3.
Regardless, the Raiders need some LB’s. Legit ones.
January 8th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
They need to sign a vet CB and a vet safety to compete witn who we have now.
January 8th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
I’ll even go as far as saying I’d trade Palmer to Seattle for their #1 and Lynch.
I think our offensive DHB, Moore, and Ford are on their way to being a DOMINANT unit.
I expect to see upgrades on the Oline next season as well.
Pryor would be just fine with that supporting cast plus his ability to run the ball.
January 8th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
Has any GM hiring ever gotten more coverage than Reggie’s?
January 8th, 2012 at 7:56 pm
Is finnegan a FA? If so bring him in
January 8th, 2012 at 7:56 pm
J Hill Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
I’ll even go as far as saying I’d trade Palmer to Seattle for their #1 and Lynch.
I think our offensive DHB, Moore, and Ford are on their way to being a DOMINANT unit.
I expect to see upgrades on the Oline next season as well.
Pryor would be just fine with that supporting cast plus his ability to run the ball
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I like our OLine overall this year. I think Wiz will take over at Center, cause he is bigger and stronger and plays with more leverage than Satele.
Heyer may stick at LG and Campbell may take over at RT and Barksdale at RG. They will need to add two more vet backups for depth purposes, if they lose Satele, Carlisle and Barnes though.
January 8th, 2012 at 7:58 pm
# J Hill Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
I’ll even go as far as saying I’d trade Palmer to Seattle for their #1 and Lynch.
I think our offensive DHB, Moore, and Ford are on their way to being a DOMINANT unit.
I expect to see upgrades on the Oline next season as well.
Pryor would be just fine with that supporting cast plus his ability to run the ball.
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Hmm…that would be a great trade, but no way Seattle does that.
The Raiders should resign Campbell and Bush and then try and trade them if the deal is right. haha
January 8th, 2012 at 7:59 pm
POST 825,I love it when people say a certain player will NEVER make it,Ha!Time will tell,but I like the young man,coach him up,watch out,Pryor time,2-3 years out
January 8th, 2012 at 8:01 pm
Curry, Wimbley, and McClain will be starting LBs for us next year regardless of what system we run.
Is anyone really doubting that?
Meanwhile, last we heard, Huff is starting opposite Routt next year. It’s fair to say we’ll have decent depth their next year with DVD and Chekwa being healthy and ready to go.
Pretty sure we’ll resign Branch, but we have literally NO ONE else at S.
Need to use that 3rd rd pick on a NT or FS.
January 8th, 2012 at 8:04 pm
I hadn’t seen my buddy in 15 years..he moved to San Fran and then prices went insane over there and he moved to Oaktown..any way I finally saw him when he came back home (Illinois) and I introduced him to one of my other buddies..who’s sister is dating AL Saunders daughter (yes you read that right)…my homie from the Bay was like “Who the hell is AL Saunders..?” I told him and he goes “I don’t follow football much”
I thought about that for a minute and was like “Wouldn’t that be f’ing GREAT?” To not give a rats ass about football? To not give two pisses about these over paid crybabies..EVER?
How awesome would it be if you didn’t suffer the heartache you have suffered for the past 9 years with this team? It takes a toll. My brother is the same way..he doesn’t know jack sh!t about what is going on in the NFL..he will ask me from time to time just to kinda see if people still PLAY football, but he could care less.
Sometimes I really envy these ignorant bastards…I really do..If I hadn’t played the game and love it as much as I do while having some sick desire to see the Raiders finally play good football again, I would check out until they got their s!ht together. But I have found that is not possible for me, I am like a Vicodin or Heroin or a Coke addict..I can’t stop, even though it would be good for me..I can’t stop. I need to get off this blog and never get back on it until training camp starts back up, yet here I am..the season is over and here I am, talking about the woulda, coulda, shoulda’s of last season, and the Should be’s, can be’s and will be’s of next season..God Help me..God help us all.
January 8th, 2012 at 8:04 pm
Pryor isn’t can newton he isn’t nearly the passer that can is. But he is a better player than tebow in my opinion. I’m looking forward to know what hue jack & suanders have up their sleeves where he is concerned.
January 8th, 2012 at 8:05 pm
I let Michael Bush go for one reason only…if we can get Free Agent, Beastmode Marshawn Lynch, Oakland Tech graduate to come back and play for his home team!
January 8th, 2012 at 8:08 pm
# Method To My Madness Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
DK that’s a lie! Defense was exposed week 2…find another argument
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The D was exposed in the preseason if you wan to get technical, hell they were exposed when they hired Chuck B as the DC!
However, the defense didn’t quit in the beginning the season, like they quit in the 2nd half of the season after the Bears game. They were lucky Cutler wasn’t playing in that game or they would have lost.
It’s funny how people were rippin on JC when he was the QB and then ripped on Palmer after he became QB.
Don’t think those peeps are Raider fans.
January 8th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
But enough about that now….
It’s Mckenzie’s job to lead us to the promised land and I trust his judgement.
This is what time it is…
Looks like our mayor Jean Quan is actually not as dumb as she looks. This is her new plan to get a stadium built for not only the Raiders, but the Warriors and A’s too.
Remember the old Bruce Lee movie….Dare I say, she is using her “Chinese Connection.”
http://www.marinij.com/ci_19698160
January 8th, 2012 at 8:10 pm
Pryor isn’t can newton he isn’t nearly the passer that can is.
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How do you know that?
Everything I heard about Cam from the critics was that he couldn’t pass the ball accurately. Didn’t look good to me at the combine at all.
I didn’t see him play at all in college.
January 8th, 2012 at 8:11 pm
# J Hill Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 8:01 pm
Curry, Wimbley, and McClain will be starting LBs for us next year regardless of what system we run.
Is anyone really doubting that?
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If we stick to a 4-3, and get a REAL 4-3 modern scheme with a REAL DC, then I expect they move Wimbley down as the RDE and let him do what he does best, rush the passer and cause disruption in the backfield.
Then McKenzie needs to add a vet FA SAM LB who really can play the position and is a REAL SAM who plays well versus the run and can cover.
That’s IF they stick to a 4-3 base scheme.
January 8th, 2012 at 8:13 pm
# ArmChair GM Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
But enough about that now….
It’s Mckenzie’s job to lead us to the promised land and I trust his judgement.
This is what time it is…
Looks like our mayor Jean Quan is actually not as dumb as she looks. This is her new plan to get a stadium built for not only the Raiders, but the Warriors and A’s too.
Remember the old Bruce Lee movie….Dare I say, she is using her “Chinese Connection.”
http://www.marinij.com/ci_19698160
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Heard about that. That’s smart move by her though. That’s the only way “Coliseum City” can become a reality!
I love the Coliseum City concept and designs, but it is waaaaay ambitious and this should have been worked on years ago.
Hope it can happen to keep all the teams in Oakland, but it’s a longshot.
January 8th, 2012 at 8:20 pm
Only decisions on offense need to be are:
Move Wiz to center. He played center vs SD in SD and look what he did!
Running back scenario, don’t think we can afford Marshwan and Dmac, especially with all the issues on defense.
Defense we need a NT, cover LB, and another corner.
January 8th, 2012 at 8:21 pm
definately draft the best player available with our 3rd round (or 4th, if the NFL burns the Raiders again); rather than need.
3rd round would be 97th at best; would like the Raiders to draft at least one player within the top 100 of their board.
January 8th, 2012 at 8:22 pm
Since there was no football today for me, has hue been fired yet?
January 8th, 2012 at 8:23 pm
jhill im not giving up a piece like dmc. thats 2 much value to give up for a pick. im talkin about havin a dynamic offense. a running game that score from anywhere on the field and be physical to go with a vertical passing. ill take my chances getting defensive help other ways. you could dominate on offense in ways the best offenses couldnt do right now. just imagine pryor in a few years with those 2 rbs. use your imagination mayne. im talkin about making history with this offense. you could have a championship offense.
January 8th, 2012 at 8:23 pm
Raiders can sign FA, C. Nicks, OG from New Orleans; moving Wisniewski to center would be a no brainer.
January 8th, 2012 at 8:26 pm
I’m done dissing Tebow. I tip my hat. 300 yards, game winning pass, against one of the best defensive teams of our time, in the playoffs. Can’t ask for much more. Hope his teenie bopper fans realize that Jesus loves Tom Brady too, though. We know that more than anyone.
January 8th, 2012 at 8:26 pm
J Hill Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 8:10 pm
Pryor isn’t can newton he isn’t nearly the passer that can is.
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How do you know that?
Everything I heard about Cam from the critics was that he couldn’t pass the ball accurately. Didn’t look good to me at the combine at all.
I didn’t see him play at all in college.
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Try not to call me a racist, but I watched both of the play in college a lot. Cam is a polished passer & came with a pro ready realease & throwing motion. Unlike what idiots here tried to tell us newton also demonstrated above average leadership skills accurate passing & very good decision making ability. All of this with an anazing athletic ability.
Pryor while he is comparable as a runner & leader, simply hasn’t matched newtons decision making or accuracy as a passer. His throwing motion will also be a point of contention. Not because of so called experts or their opinions, but becuase of his accuracy issues.
Feel free to follow media hype & I will continue to form my own independent thoughts.
January 8th, 2012 at 8:27 pm
F*ck the Broncos and F8ck you Raiders for not taking care of business.
January 8th, 2012 at 8:30 pm
849. F*ck Teblow. 316 yds ON 10 PASSES?!
Watched him miss wide open targets all day. Its just garbage football and Broncos fans should be ashamed but none more ashamed than Oakland for fielding such a sh*t D and an azz hat coordinator
January 8th, 2012 at 8:32 pm
# RaiderRetribution Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 8:21 pm
definately draft the best player available with our 3rd round (or 4th, if the NFL burns the Raiders again); rather than need.
3rd round would be 97th at best; would like the Raiders to draft at least one player within the top 100 of their board.
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Preferably the best player available on the DEFENSIVE side of the ball.
January 8th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
LAKE SHOW HOMIES YOU KNOW WHAT TIME IT IS
Taking a huge “Wizz on the Grizz” (patent pending) with Matty Barnes & Noble popping Js and Big Boi Bynum cleaning up them boards.
Slick Rick in the house, y’all
Gettin’ my party on with a few top shelf margaritas and a turkey burger on artisan wheat.
TIP ONE TO KOBE MAGIC, RABBITS OUT OF THE HAT
January 8th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
# ArmChair GM Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
But enough about that now….
It’s Mckenzie’s job to lead us to the promised land and I trust his judgement.
This is what time it is…
Looks like our mayor Jean Quan is actually not as dumb as she looks. This is her new plan to get a stadium built for not only the Raiders, but the Warriors and A’s too.
Remember the old Bruce Lee movie….Dare I say, she is using her “Chinese Connection.”
http://www.marinij.com/ci_19698160
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Heard about that. That’s smart move by her though. That’s the only way “Coliseum City” can become a reality!
I love the Coliseum City concept and designs, but it is waaaaay ambitious and this should have been worked on years ago.
Hope it can happen to keep all the teams in Oakland, but it’s a long shot.
January 8th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
So I want to see Pryor because of media hype?
Thanks for letting me know that.
January 8th, 2012 at 8:35 pm
For the record pryor doesn’t have to be cam newton to be a good qb for our team. At the very least in my eyes at this moment I like him as a prospect much better than Iike Palmer. Im afraid Palmer is a known commodity at this point where we really don’t yet know pryors ceiling. Creating an offense for him could be special.
January 8th, 2012 at 8:38 pm
852,so Pitts highly regarded D was junk?How about Denvers D and Tebow,they out played the Pitt D,PERIOD
January 8th, 2012 at 8:46 pm
Try not to call me a racist, but I watched both of the play in college a lot. Cam is a polished passer & came with a pro ready realease & throwing motion. Unlike what idiots here tried to tell us newton also demonstrated above average leadership skills accurate passing & very good decision making ability. All of this with an anazing athletic ability.
Pryor while he is comparable as a runner & leader, simply hasn’t matched newtons decision making or accuracy as a passer. His throwing motion will also be a point of contention. Not because of so called experts or their opinions, but becuase of his accuracy issues.
Feel free to follow media hype & I will continue to form my own independent thoughts.
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At least we agree on something. I remember watching Cam Newton at Auburn, and while everyone else was comparing him to Mike Vick, etc. I made the comment in here that he reminded me more of Roethlesberger than anyone else. He was a man among boys out there, which is exactly what Big Ben looked like in college. His throwing motion was great, and so was his accuracy, and he made plays IN the pocket with his feet in order to keep his focus downfield. Of course, he runs better than Ben ever did but they looked eerily similar to me in the pocket.
Priest and I were discussing his prospects one day, and both agreed that he could be the next great one. I’m not an expert evaluator by any stretch, but he just looked SO much better than anyone else that it was hard to see him not being successful at the next level.
Pryor is another story. He’s not even close to Newton as a passer; some of his throws at Ohio State were downright embarassing to the profession. Here’s hoping his work ethic is as advertised and that he gets all the time he needs to develop.
January 8th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
Meanwhile, Lakers rolling right along.
January 8th, 2012 at 8:49 pm
Priest was over the top excited when we got Pryor.
I think he would disagree with both of you on Pryor’s ablity to throw the ball.
I hope he is right.
January 8th, 2012 at 9:05 pm
Gasol for love and Bynum for Howard. Make it happen Mitch.
January 8th, 2012 at 9:06 pm
But when it’s your main rival and their QB has posted some of the worst quarterbacking performances in recent history but lucks out wins in some of those games anyway, and the media jumps on board it’s infuriating enough. But then when you’ve got supposed Raiders fans in here eager to jump on this B.S. bandwagon it’s just sickening.
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We celebrate an underdog (Baby Jesus) shutting up a lot of doubters. We do so in the spirit that some overpaid “superior athletes” on our team show the same will to win that Tim Tebow does.
any problem with that?
January 8th, 2012 at 9:06 pm
J Hill Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
Meanwhile, Lakers rolling right along.
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Plenty of time to roll until they get rolled by the Mavs or OK City in the playoffs
Cowboy up!
January 8th, 2012 at 9:07 pm
JHill
Newton broke SEC pass-efficiency records. To me, that’s proof you can QB.
Pryor? Had TERRIBLE games vs USC, Miami, Wisconsin, Iowa…basically, every legit D he played.
January 8th, 2012 at 9:08 pm
GoodOle00 Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 8:30 pm
849. F*ck Teblow. 316 yds ON 10 PASSES?!
Watched him miss wide open targets all day. Its just garbage football and Broncos fans should be ashamed but none more ashamed than Oakland for fielding such a sh*t D and an azz hat coordinator
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Hopefully, they’ll be pissed enough to do something about it on the field and not make excuses next season. Raider Nation, Silver and Black..WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO in 2012?
January 8th, 2012 at 9:08 pm
835.J Hill Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 8:01 pm
Curry, Wimbley, and McClain will be starting LBs for us next year regardless of what system we run.
Is anyone really doubting that?
Meanwhile, last we heard, Huff is starting opposite Routt next year. It’s fair to say we’ll have decent depth their next year with DVD and Chekwa being healthy and ready to go.
Pretty sure we’ll resign Branch, but we have literally NO ONE else at S.
Need to use that 3rd rd pick on a NT or FS.
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Man, you are really bringing me down with this post.
I’m not ready to hear that ANY guys from last years defense will be here next season.
I know it’s reality that some will be, but i am really hoping for alot of new toys.
January 8th, 2012 at 9:09 pm
You on that rum and coke again tonight Dakota?
Lakers need to get rid of Artest and get a young PG.
Like Brown’s move of making Bynum the #2 scorer and using Gasol as a facilitator.
It’s all coming together!
January 8th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
Alex 7
Pryor? Had TERRIBLE games vs USC, Miami, Wisconsin, Iowa…basically, every legit D he played.
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Maybe Pryor gets pumped after seeing Tebow? Maybe he’ll stop that ridiculous dougie dance on the sideline, hit the film room and get it done on the field.
January 8th, 2012 at 9:13 pm
Tebow threw for 316 yards and two touchdowns, no interceptions, and ran for 50 yards and a TD.
Against the #1 defense.
He’s played in about 16 NFL games.
He’s going to get better.
January 8th, 2012 at 9:14 pm
Alex,
I think Pryor can top Tebow and throw at least 4 decent passes per game.
Couple that with defense having to respect his running ability? I’m intrigued is all I’m saying.
Sitting on the bench behind Palmer for a couple of years and working with pro coaches on his mechanics, I’m sure his accuracy will continue to improve. Pretty safe to say that it is already better now than the last time you saw him play.
January 8th, 2012 at 9:15 pm
Sam
Pryor. once a knucklehead, always a knucklehead? By the time he figures it out, his Raiders contract will likely be up.
January 8th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
DJohnny
the Texans returned about 7 of 11 starters from last year’s team that finished 31st in D.
Wade Phillips and his 3-4 turned them into top-5.
Scheme.
January 8th, 2012 at 9:17 pm
At take a few seasons for Reggie to clean up als mess. Don’t expect large scale turnover, even on defense.
One thing we will no longer see are those above market deals like the ones given to Seymour, huff, Kelly, wimbley, etc.
Branch will be sent walking if he thinks he is going to get dome ridiculous al-like contract offer with reggie in charge. Reggie will take note that branch is not a great safety over his career.
January 8th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
“Kennard McGuire, the agent for both Jackson and new Raiders general manager Reggie McKenzie, said that Jackson remained in place and that McKenzie planned to ‘come in this week and evaluate the entire organization.’ ”
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I hope he has a whole lot of tape, paper, and film tape on prospects. He has a lot of work to do, evaluating and replacing or signing 15-18 would-be free agents.
January 8th, 2012 at 9:19 pm
Alex7 Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 9:15 pm
Sam
Pryor. once a knucklehead, always a knucklehead? By the time he figures it out, his Raiders contract will likely be up.
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The way he said; “Ah yeah, the Black and Silver, are you kidding” and doing the dougie on the sidelines in the Chief blow out.
Dude has a lot of growing up to do, quickly.
January 8th, 2012 at 9:19 pm
Jesus I hate this phone.
January 8th, 2012 at 9:20 pm
Dakota,
Did you just hear Norm Nixon say he wouldn’t trade Bynum for Howard straight up?
January 8th, 2012 at 9:21 pm
Dakota Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 9:17 pm
At take a few seasons for Reggie to clean up als mess. Don’t expect large scale turnover, even on defense.
One thing we will no longer see are those above market deals like the ones given to Seymour, huff, Kelly, wimbley, etc.
Branch will be sent walking if he thinks he is going to get dome ridiculous al-like contract offer with reggie in charge. Reggie will take note that branch is not a great safety over his career.
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and its not like ex-Packers are coming either. Flynn, Jarret Bush maybe?
Ryan Grant* RB 28 4 $3.5M
Scott Wells* C 30 7 2.75M
Jarrett Bush CB 27 5 1.4M
Jermichael Finley* TE 24 3 1.2M
Josh Sitton* G 25 3 1.2M
Howard Green NT 32 6 810,000
Matt Flynn QB 26 3 600,000
Jordy Nelson WR 26 3 600,000
Erik Walden* LB 25 3 600,000
Pat Lee CB 27 3 555,000
January 8th, 2012 at 9:23 pm
Jhill,
A pg and keep feeding Bynum is your plan? Thank god Mitch knows better. Trade bynum before his annual knee injury.
January 8th, 2012 at 9:24 pm
Norm Nixon is a drunk.
January 8th, 2012 at 9:26 pm
Mitch knows better?
Why is Howard not a Laker then?
All I know so far is he tried to trade Gasoft for a PG.
I haven’t seem ANY attempt to trade for Howard.
January 8th, 2012 at 9:28 pm
You drink too, Dakota.
Why are you bashing Norm?
January 8th, 2012 at 9:34 pm
Poll all thirty gms and all thirty would take Howard over Bynum. It is unfortunate that our new owner in waiting is a tool who can’t pull the trigger on trading “his guy”.
You must be a drunk like Nixon if u think our future is Bynum and his bad Knees lol.
January 8th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
Ok, so it’s the tool owner now?
You mean there is a Howard for Bynum and 2 draft picks (or some form of that deal) offer from Orlando on the table now that Mr Tool is vetoing?
Link?
January 8th, 2012 at 9:40 pm
855. “Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free..”
and oh, yeah a million bucks worth of your dirty sweatshop communist blood money…
Way to go Quan
January 8th, 2012 at 9:42 pm
Bynum’s bum knees seem fine without Odom or Kobe crashing into them, wouldn’t you say?
How long before Kobe gets mad at all the Bynum love and takes him out again?
Yeah, we might need to hurry up and trade Bynum for Howard. Howard won’t want the ball and would just rebound and play defense.
Too bad Gasoft doesn’t want to shoot either.
Get ready for Kobe taking 40 shots a night while you’re at it.
January 8th, 2012 at 9:42 pm
Jhill,
Buss jr has consistently shot down trades for Bynum and u know it. It wouldn’t surprise me if he has ordered Mitch to only offer gasol and junk for Howard wanting to keep his golden boy Bynum.
January 8th, 2012 at 9:43 pm
870. Tebow suck f*ggin azz
January 8th, 2012 at 9:48 pm
Tebow-mania, GoodOle!
Whatcha gonna do, when Tebowmania runs wild on you?!?!
January 8th, 2012 at 9:51 pm
873.alex7 Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
DJohnny
the Texans returned about 7 of 11 starters from last year’s team that finished 31st in D.
Wade Phillips and his 3-4 turned them into top-5.
Scheme.
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Okay. That’s 4 NEW starters on D for them.
I’ll take that.
Let’s make sure the 4 new guys are replacing the right 4 old guys.
Not sure which ones i’d axe though.
I’d start with McClain. Just seems to be a gangsta “i don’t care about anything” type of guy.
CJ? Don’t know if he’d be “emotionally” up for it. Plus, I don’t think he’s very good.
Seymour? Seems like a guy who’s got his rings already. Getting old and tired too.
Mitchell?
Huff?
January 8th, 2012 at 9:53 pm
What are you talking about, Dakota?
Lakers offered Bynum and Odom for KG.
What other trade did we turn down for him? Carmelo? I’m glad we didn’t make that trade!
January 8th, 2012 at 9:54 pm
good topic Djohnny.
If I could take 4, I’d get a new DE, DT, OLB (assuming a 3-4 at least part of the time), and FS.
McClain gets moved to his old 3-4 ILB spot, and see how he matures (He’s only 22!).
January 8th, 2012 at 9:55 pm
Bynum hyperextends that weak knee just by landing on someone’s foot. Just
A matter of time till the next injury.
January 8th, 2012 at 9:55 pm
Okay. That’s 4 NEW starters on D for them.
I’ll take that.
Let’s make sure the 4 new guys are replacing the right 4 old guys.
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NT for the 3-4
OLB for the 3-4 or an ILB depending on where you play Curry.
CB
FS
January 8th, 2012 at 9:57 pm
Houston, Seymour, and Bryant are perfect 3-4 DEs, Alex.
January 8th, 2012 at 10:01 pm
True they did offer him for kg. I hope u are right. It sounds like smith is pretty resigned to losing Howard, so the lakers just need to get the deal done and get that ticking time bomb Bynum off the roster.
January 8th, 2012 at 10:02 pm
3-4
NT new
DE new, Seymour, Bryant
DE Shaughnessy, Houston
OLB Wimbley
ILB Curry
ILB McClain
OLB new
CB Routt
CB Huff, DVD
FS new, Gio
SS Branch, Mitchell
January 8th, 2012 at 10:05 pm
Dakota,
You’ve said yourself that Bynum on Orlando as a #1 option would avg 30.
What are we arguing about?
You can argue that Bynum is developing into the best all around C in the league. You may lose the argument, but at least you can make a sound argument. Bynum is avg what 15 boards a game? MUCH better offensive player than Howard. Not even close. Can make FTs in the 4th qtr too.
Again, I’d like to have Howard too. But I’m not giving up more than we need to. If they’ll take Artest off our hands and Turkoglo is playing as well as you say, then fine.
Still find it funny that you don’t apply your DMac logic to Bynum. Bynum didn’t have an injury history prior to Odom crashing into his knee. And his only other injury was Kobe crashing into his knee.
January 8th, 2012 at 10:07 pm
Can’t see Mitchell coming back.
The days of us playing 3 and 4 safety sets are long gone.
No more “Big Nickle”, lol.
January 8th, 2012 at 10:11 pm
DE – Seymour, Bryant
NT – new, new
DE – Hoston, Bryant
OLB – Wimbley, Scott
ILB – Curry
ILB – McClain, Goethel
OLB – New, new
CB – Routt, Chekwa
CB – Huff, DVD, new
FS – New, Gio
SS – Branch, new
January 8th, 2012 at 10:12 pm
Hopefully the Raiders announce they are keeping Hue (or letting him go), before or at Tuesday’s announcement of our new GM, Mr. Reggie McKenzie.
January 8th, 2012 at 10:12 pm
yeah, but Mitchell is cheap, and tackles well. That’s good enough for at least special teams, goal-line D’s, and a backup at SS.
Useful in right scheme, IMO. He’s held up well vs TEs as well.
January 8th, 2012 at 10:18 pm
So we are assuming we are going to the 3/4? You guys think that’s pretty much a done deal?
Alex, you have Seymour backing up in this scheme. Ok.
We have to trust that Reggie is gonna bring in some guys that we might not know that much about, but…will be good guys to have; just as they did in GB.
How many thought Jordy Nelson was gonna be the stud he turned out to be? Or Sam Shields? Or Tramon Williams?
I’m willing to roll with Reggie. Not like I have a choice.
January 8th, 2012 at 10:18 pm
Bynum had surgery on his knee in high school. And he had to have surgery on his knee after the playoffs against Boston in 2010, which did not involve Kobe or odom falling on his knee, and he was gimpy going into last years Playoffs having hyperextended his knee again.
U cannot compare football and basketball injuries. Bynum is one of five starters on the team and takes up at least 25% of the lakers salary cap and has a guaranteed contract. If the raiders keep McFadden and he continues to get injured they can cut him and move on. If Bynum gets injured again the lakers are fked, assuming they sign him to the contract extension he will soon be requesting.
January 8th, 2012 at 10:18 pm
Blog brahs, got a big week ahead, gotta start gearing up and recognize some organization
First off, tomorrow I gotta wake up in time to watch the national championship.
On Tues I’ve got a full afternoon of calling limo services for a ride to the Lake Show @ Staples word
Wed & Thurs I’ll be sleeping off my hangover from the game, racking up hand jobs and smoking spliffs from my hook up in Santa Cruz.
Fri I’ll get wasted early then get ready for my DJ gig by tanning at the pool.
Man, Sat can’t get here quick enough so I can finally get some rest
January 8th, 2012 at 10:20 pm
Alex7 Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
whiners can stop whining.
Broncos earned the West.
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As sick as it makes me, this is true.
January 8th, 2012 at 10:23 pm
Djohnnyg Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 10:18 pm
So we are assuming we are going to the 3/4? You guys think that’s pretty much a done deal?
Alex, you have Seymour backing up in this scheme. Ok.
We have to trust that Reggie is gonna bring in some guys that we might not know that much about, but…will be good guys to have; just as they did in GB.
How many thought Jordy Nelson was gonna be the stud he turned out to be? Or Sam Shields? Or Tramon Williams?
I’m willing to roll with Reggie. Not like I have a choice.
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In Mr. McKenzie we trust… For now, and hopefully a long time.
January 8th, 2012 at 10:23 pm
I’m still of the opinion we pi**ed it away more than Denver “earning” it.
January 8th, 2012 at 10:24 pm
Raiderretribution,
I hope they don’t make the decision on hue on tuesday if Reggie is not coming in to do the evaluation on the org until tomorrow. It would mean he didn’t really take the time to make an informed decision.
January 8th, 2012 at 10:24 pm
It’s gonna stink this week listening to my 49er fan acquaintances. I want Brees and the Saints to bury that team!!!
January 8th, 2012 at 10:25 pm
Master Beeecham Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 10:18 pm
Blog brahs, got a big week ahead, gotta start gearing up and recognize some organization
First off, tomorrow I gotta wake up in time to watch the national championship.
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I want YOUR life.
January 8th, 2012 at 10:25 pm
Denver earned it, and they proved it again today! Just be a Saints fan next Saturday.
January 8th, 2012 at 10:28 pm
We’ve won a ring with an injured Bynum limping around, Dakota.
We built our offense around DMac moreso than the Lakers building theirs around Bynum. DMac went down this year and we were phuggedd the same way we’d be phugged if Bynum went down.
I don’t see the difference.
If DMac plays well enough to get a contract extension from us and then goes down for half the season, we’ll be phugged again.
January 8th, 2012 at 10:31 pm
The donkeys lost 3 of their last 4 games.They didn’t earn it,they backed in because of our defense ineptness.
January 8th, 2012 at 10:32 pm
Tebow is a winner, period. He is a fierce competitior. I pray that Reggie McKenzie looks for players at all positions with that kind of attitude.
January 8th, 2012 at 10:33 pm
Do we use the franchise tag this season?
If so, should it be used on Branch or Bush?
(I don’t see any other realistic options, Jason’s would be about $14 million so that’s not gonna happen).
January 8th, 2012 at 10:36 pm
Beach,I agree with that but they didn’t earn the division.
January 8th, 2012 at 10:37 pm
RR-I don’t believe we should use it.Nobody is worthy.
January 8th, 2012 at 10:44 pm
Denver earned it. What else can be said? Give credit where it’s due. Oakland didn’t step up. Give Tebow credit for winning. I’m glad Denver won today. This way they pick later in the draft and they get more entrenched in having to play Tebow next year.
January 8th, 2012 at 10:59 pm
Lefty12 Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 10:31 pm
The donkeys lost 3 of their last 4 games.They didn’t earn it,they backed in because of our defense ineptness.
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“You’re splittin hairs, ain’t ya boss”?
January 8th, 2012 at 10:59 pm
How did that vaunted 3-4 defense do today? Lol….
January 8th, 2012 at 11:01 pm
Broncos are a 3-4 too
January 8th, 2012 at 11:03 pm
KK,if they had won 1 more game and eliminated us,I’d say they earned it.By opening the door for us I can’t agree they earned it.I can’t give them credit knowing if we had won our last game,we’d have won the division.I guess you could say I’m splitting hairs though.
January 8th, 2012 at 11:03 pm
We need a Tebow; someone who can scramble acting as the 12th man. Put in Terrel Pryor, or someone of Tebow’s ilk. Purge CP – he’s over the hill, and way done.
Fire the jackass idiot who doesn’t know if he’s a nig.a or a whity. Lying, cheating, ass-kissing (now to McKenzie), addle-pate who would make a great used car salesman.
Fire Hue!!
Any one he’d been caught with Jerry Sandusky, both naked from the waist down in the back seat of Hue’s Caddilac???
January 8th, 2012 at 11:04 pm
Bob Marley Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
Sean Payton gave up some of his own money to hire Gregg Williams as DC.
Gary Kubiak didn’t get over the hump until they hired DC Wade Phillips.
Andy Reid missed the playoffs for the 1st time in the last 4 years when he decided to go with an OL coach as DC.
Mike McCarthy’s team took the next step once Dom Capers was hired as DC.
Those are some of the best offensive minds around, Payton and McCarthy have rings, Reid is among the winningest active coaches.
Now Hue Jackson isn’t anywhere near those guys just yet, that’s obvious.
Point is, even the best offensive minds around need or needed a hand with their own Defense, just like Hue does now.
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The best offensive minds know what to do with the opening game coin flip. Jackson doesn’t. Are you going to argue he does?
January 8th, 2012 at 11:06 pm
Most of you may irrationally hate the Broncos, but take heart at how they turned their organization around with basically the same roster in a single season. They did earn a playoff spot and deserve to be there.
Raiders, and we too, can learn from “donkeys” and the 49′ers.
Just fire stank Hue first.
January 8th, 2012 at 11:11 pm
I’m just wondering,what will you guys do when HJ is retained as HC?Will you root against him and therefore against the team like some do because of certain players,or will you root for the team?
January 8th, 2012 at 11:11 pm
djohnnyg Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 10:25 pm
Master Beeecham Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 10:18 pm
Blog brahs, got a big week ahead, gotta start gearing up and recognize some organization
First off, tomorrow I gotta wake up in time to watch the national championship.
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I want YOUR life.
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You don’t want his life. Unless it’s wake up in mom’s basement, do bi polar meds, go to sleep. Wake up, Post on internet how great life is.
January 8th, 2012 at 11:13 pm
Ooooh, where’s Jeff Fisher gonna go? What’s he gonna do? What’s he thinking? How can we get him?
16 yrs. as a HC and 4 division titles and 1 conf. championship. ZERO Super Bowl titles.
Whatever he wants PAY HIM!!!
January 8th, 2012 at 11:15 pm
lefty12 Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 11:11 pm
I’m just wondering,what will you guys do when HJ is retained as HC?Will you root against him and therefore against the team like some do because of certain players,or will you root for the team?
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I can tell you exactly what we will do: we will back him like he is John madden til he goes 0-4. Then out come the chants: ” Goodbye Huey, Goodbye Huey, Goodbye Huey, we hate to see you go…”
January 8th, 2012 at 11:18 pm
Lefty let me ask you a question. what would make you think Jackson is going to win another game in the NFL? Everyone has figured everything about him out.
January 8th, 2012 at 11:18 pm
Seymour,fair enough.To be honest that is what I assumed you would do.I wonder about some of the others though.
January 8th, 2012 at 11:20 pm
Del Rio might make a good DC.
January 8th, 2012 at 11:20 pm
It’s been a re-education of Elway’s previous beliefs about QBs and pro-football. A pocket QB who can scramble off every now and then is completely different to an Option QB running an entirely Option-based offense
Tebow doesn’t have to be a traditional QB putting up traditional QB stats for him to be an ‘effective QB’. It all depends on the system being used. If you have an Option offense, an ‘effective QBs’ stats are generally those non-gaudy numbers we have seen from Tebow this season. The offense is entirely different to a traditional system. Calling 40 rush plays to 12 passes is no longer “abnormal”.
Basically, what I’m saying is, Newton and Tebow, have opened the floodgates now for Pryor, RGIII etc. Legitimizing the effectiveness of college systems, not forcing college-system QBs into becoming pro-style QBs, validating more ‘types’ of QB in today’s NFL than previously.
January 8th, 2012 at 11:21 pm
At the presser when whoever gets Fisher announces him they’ll say “Our goal is to win a championship. That’s why we introduce to you Mr. Jeff Fisher”.
A reporter should then ask “Why didn’t u win one in the 16 freaking years you had in Tennessee?”.
Don’t get me wrong. I don’t think he’s a “bad” coach, just waaaaaay overhyped.
January 8th, 2012 at 11:23 pm
His offense was pretty good.It played well enough to win games and it did it without our best weapon-our best 2 weapons if you factor in Moore’s big play ability.As most of us realize,the defense let the team down.Bring in someone who could put an adequate defense on the field and I believe HJ can and will win.
January 8th, 2012 at 11:24 pm
He almost did in 1999/00 vs Rams. Cowher had 16 years or whatever at Pittsburgh and only had 1 SB appearance (a loss) before the Seattle win (rort).
January 8th, 2012 at 11:25 pm
On undersized Raiders:
I don’t think our problem is lack of size at WR although I would not mind one big Wr for this O, for fades and 3rd down possession.
Our problem with size is DBs we have a bunch of smurfs out there with no one bigger than 6′1″. We lost our size when we let Aso leave.
January 8th, 2012 at 11:27 pm
djohnnyg Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 11:21 pm
A reporter should then ask “Why didn’t u win one in the 16 freaking years you had in Tennessee?”.
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haha. good one. With all due respects to Jeff Fisher he was about 19 inches away from a Super Bowl Championship on the final play of the SB versus the Rams. Fisher will certainly get there a lot faster than Jackson ever will. When fisher sends guys out to the pre game coin flip, at least he sends out instructions for either heads or tails not, “put it all on red.”
January 8th, 2012 at 11:28 pm
GG 936:
GG, and that’s a good thing ! I am not advocating a Vick type running QB, but at least employ someone who can scramble. You noticed in the 2nd half this afternoon, when Rothlesburger began to scamble it changed the entire momenteum of the game in Pittsburg’s favor. Whether Ben took the needle at halftime or whatever, he came out and began to run and it was successful. If he had done that in the first half Steelers would have won.
January 8th, 2012 at 11:29 pm
Peemore Bust – jealous much?
So easy to slap around my poor minion. But more importantly, it’s fun.
LIFE OF A PLAYA
January 8th, 2012 at 11:30 pm
lefty12 Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 11:23 pm
His offense was pretty good.It played well enough to win games and it did it without our best weapon-our best 2 weapons if you factor in Moore’s big play ability.As most of us realize,the defense let the team down.Bring in someone who could put an adequate defense on the field and I believe HJ can and will win.
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Most of you ignore the fact we didn’t score a point in the 4th quarter for over 5 games and we sucked ass in the second half all year long. Which incidentally puts a HUGE pressure on any defense. But, hey, buy Hue a present. It was the injuries and all the other bull fukking sh**.
January 8th, 2012 at 11:30 pm
“As I reflect on my life as an NFL coach thus far, it can be proved that in my 16 years of coaching in this league, I have had many years of fair to middling results, interspersed with 4 years of marginal success.”
Jeff Fisher from his new book “Committment to Mediocrity”.
January 8th, 2012 at 11:31 pm
Seymour,I’m not tied to HJ.I’d just like to see him stay another year for continuity sake and helping with the transition.If McKenzie decides to go in a different direction it wouldn’t really bother me.I do believe he’d do a better job his 2nd year though.
January 8th, 2012 at 11:34 pm
Most of you ignore the fact we didn’t score a point in the 4th quarter for over 5 games and we sucked ass in the second half all year long. Which incidentally puts a HUGE pressure on any defense. But, hey, buy Hue a present. It was the injuries and all the other bull fukking sh**.
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Really?I was the 1st,or 1 of the 1st ones on here to complain about that during the season.
January 8th, 2012 at 11:34 pm
lefty12 Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 11:31 pm
Seymour,I’m not tied to HJ.
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Sorry Lefty I do not mean to take it out on you. I watched the Dungver team and now I am pissed off all the more!!
January 8th, 2012 at 11:37 pm
I hate Tebow!
January 8th, 2012 at 11:38 pm
Seymour, yeah i think alot of us DID forget that fact.
Let’s hope a “reined in” Hue will yield good results.
If he even starts out poorly than a tuff decision may need to be made.
I say he’s on a short leash.
January 8th, 2012 at 11:40 pm
QBs like Big Ben are uncommon tho. That guy is an animal and a legend on the field. Rookies like Gabbert, Flacco etc get touted as having “similarities to Big Ben”, and more rookies will over the years, but it’s just scouting systems, same as Al Davis trying to find the next Branch or Plunkett by finding things or physical aspects that remind them of former greats.
Anyway, I was happy to see the Broncos win for the reason of what I explained before…the re-education of fans, coaches, owners of the validity of college offensive systems, legitimizing its place in pro-football. We’ve seen it more and more creeping in of late, the Pistol, Wild Cat, Spread, now Option, hopefully things like the Double Wing (big fan of), etc.
Of course we have someone capable of that on our roster. As others have said, imagine Pryor, Dmac, Bush, Reece, Ford, Moore in a Double Wing or Triple Option offense. The NFL is a copycat league and I can see more owners/GMs daring to try something, become more unique to other teams instead of everyone running essentially a hybrid of some pro-style offenses.
January 8th, 2012 at 11:45 pm
I haven’t seen Pryor enough to have a viable opinion of him,but many are forgetting he was a Davis guy.There are no assurances McKenzie or even Hue believe he can be an effective QB for us.
January 8th, 2012 at 11:50 pm
Skimmed through the posts in here and have to agree with the following:
Lefty12 Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
I hate bigots and stupid people and this place is full of them.
January 8th, 2012 at 11:53 pm
Tebow came through. What if he overthrows that final pass? Then what are we saying? I’ve seen Raider fans gush over our QBs for doing far less. If Jason Campbell had a game like Tebow did today Mistic would skeet one so far it would hit a guy 3 blocks down.
January 8th, 2012 at 11:58 pm
948,I Respect Tim Tebow,till they play the Raiders.Actually,JC is much the same,good man,good values,etc Anything that kids can learn from,all for it,cuz Lord knows I got a bunch,with more on the way!Thats Grandkids,OK! Raiders!
January 9th, 2012 at 12:03 am
I think Pryor is going to be atleast better than tebow. .. that might not be saying much.. but with his athletic ability and his speed. . He is going to surprise the hell out of a lot of doubters. .. I just hope he is given the opportunity davis would have gave him…. is there any doubt we made the right choice by picking Dhb over craptree… ?? I’m sure Pryor will do fine..
January 9th, 2012 at 12:03 am
McKenzie’s first act as GM will be to put a coaching staff in place.
After that he will turn his attention to the roster.
His first roster move should be the immediate release of JaLando McClame.
Can’t have players that not only don’t perform or hustle, but also have character and attitude issues to boot.
Can’t have it.
It was impossible for the Raids to move forward on offense until JaMoron was purged, and the same applies to Slowlando and the defense.
McLain’s removal will send an immediate message that – regardless of salary, draft position, or cap consequences – non-performance, lack of hustle, and lack of commitment will not be tolerated.
Time to get busy, Reggie.
January 9th, 2012 at 12:09 am
956,Nope,Hes a young man,needs the right coaching,if, after two years he isnt putting out 100%,got ya,period
January 9th, 2012 at 12:09 am
Raiderman.. I think romac will only be scratching the surface on this team… because I think there is many players that fit. .the lazy and undisciplined players bill on this team…. sad but true…
January 9th, 2012 at 12:16 am
That’s the point Sullivan, no longer is 29/40 for 350 per se considered “great and normal” and 8/15 for 150 considered “abnormal and pathetic”. When you have different systems being used, what makes an “effective QB” no longer is just looking at stats, have to consider systems, how offensive players are used differently.
Click on my name “GG” and read my latest blog post where I explain it better.
January 9th, 2012 at 12:17 am
We need more depth so if it appears a player isn’t giving his all we can bench him.Do that a few times-bench starters-and I guarantee that attitude will disappear quick.In the past the players knew the old man wouldn’t allow them to be disciplined.
January 9th, 2012 at 12:19 am
Btw, found this on another forum….
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Thats not the only Broncos 3:16 reference. From Kirk Morrison’s (Bills LB) twitter:
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Coincidence or not. Tebow threw for 316 yards today. Tebow 3:16
Tebow had a 31.6 yards per completion average. Tebow 3:16
Tebow 3:16 again RT @LindsayAnne13: @kirkmorrison Steelers time of possession: 31.06
Tebow 3:16 RT @benyarrington: @kirkmorrison Broncos also avereaged 316.6 yards per game offensively this year…
Tebow 3:16 RT @haneypeps: @kirkmorrison @benyarrington 10 completions = 10 commandments
Tebow 3:16 RT @theShawneboy: @kirkmorrison game went to OT = Old Testament
Tebow 3:16 RT @ JoshuaJamesNY: @kirkmorrison @theShawneboy On 3rd and 16 in the 2nd quarter Ben threw an interception. This is getting deep!
January 9th, 2012 at 12:23 am
What next?Are we going to be told his mother was a virgin.
January 9th, 2012 at 12:26 am
99 I agree, Ro’s gotsa to go!
January 9th, 2012 at 12:27 am
961= awesome
January 9th, 2012 at 12:28 am
btw Lefty I completely agree no one on the roster is worth using the franchise tag for.
I think Reggie understands that as well.
January 9th, 2012 at 12:30 am
problem with the players that have trade value, their contracts are too big for other teams to take on.
exceptions are the players we actually want to keep.
January 9th, 2012 at 12:32 am
I don’t understand why everyone wants McClains head,yet Wimbley is given a free pass.He rushes the passer effectively only a couple of games a year,he can’t cover anyone in pass coverage,and he is constantly out of position vs the run.
January 9th, 2012 at 12:34 am
Reggie would be wise to keep Hue & Palmer together for one more season; cut all overpaid contracts- take the salary cap hits this coming season.
Clear the salary cap for the following season, reward those that perform, cut those that do not, move on and>
Go with the 2010 & 2011 draft class, and other core players; shoot for the Superbowl, or draft in the first round of 2013.
January 9th, 2012 at 12:37 am
Wimbley needs to take the same train as MClain, any train that leads out of the Raiders facilities; followed by Routt, and a number of other players getting paid over 5 million, Seymour included.
January 9th, 2012 at 12:39 am
GG Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 12:19 am
Btw, found this on another forum….
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Thats not the only Broncos 3:16 reference. From Kirk Morrison’s (Bills LB) twitter:
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Coincidence or not. Tebow threw for 316 yards today. Tebow 3:16
Tebow had a 31.6 yards per completion average. Tebow 3:16
Tebow 3:16 again RT @LindsayAnne13: @kirkmorrison Steelers time of possession: 31.06
Tebow 3:16 RT @benyarrington: @kirkmorrison Broncos also avereaged 316.6 yards per game offensively this year…
Tebow 3:16 RT @haneypeps: @kirkmorrison @benyarrington 10 completions = 10 commandments
Tebow 3:16 RT @theShawneboy: @kirkmorrison game went to OT = Old Testament
Tebow 3:16 RT @ JoshuaJamesNY: @kirkmorrison @theShawneboy On 3rd and 16 in the 2nd quarter Ben threw an interception. This is getting deep!
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Proof that Allah’s screwing with us.
January 9th, 2012 at 12:40 am
Why would you want to blow up a team that was one game away from winning the division?Wouldn’t it be better to try and fill a couple of holes,hire a competent DC and continue making a run for the title while upgrading the personnel whenever we can?
January 9th, 2012 at 12:44 am
That is going to be the $64 question Tuesday…what Reggie decides “blow up” or “regroup”.
One can see valid reasons for either one. It’s anyone’s guess what Reggie decides. I’ll tip “blow up”.
January 9th, 2012 at 12:52 am
Most biblical theories copy astrology, which I believe is Greek mythology. You can really get deep with Greek Mythology. In the alt.Sopranos usenet groups years ago this dude would break down every Sopranos episode, and it would make your head explode. He’d also tie it together with pop culture, current politics, etc. Just insane stuff that rings just like the Tebow 3:16. Some people are insightful beyond belief. Must be a genetic trait. Everything goes over my head.
January 9th, 2012 at 12:52 am
MR,whos allahs?Not sure what you mean,does he work with the league?Whatever,Raiders
January 9th, 2012 at 12:52 am
And what would those valid reasons be for blowing things up when we are so close to winning?
January 9th, 2012 at 12:56 am
Allah’s one of those fictional gods people believe in, like Buddha, Jesus Christ, etc.
January 9th, 2012 at 1:00 am
I don’t think Hue’s going to get fired. If Hue had not taken control, the team would have tanked. Al dies. It’s between Hue and those buffoons upstairs that have been enabling Al the past 20 years. Hue was not about to put his career coaching record in their hands. Hue’s moves were about as shrewd as a skinny guy fighting a fat guy for a hamburger.
January 9th, 2012 at 1:04 am
The whole notion of Hue getting fired tho is valid speculation due to…
1. A new GM with full control, they often blow things up.
2. Hue’s initial power-tripping and resistance.
January 9th, 2012 at 1:12 am
GG, I really think this thing with Hue’s supposed “power tripping” is something that’s shared amongst fans, and perhaps even Raider front office employees that are no longer in the loop where football ops are concerned (Herrera).
January 9th, 2012 at 1:16 am
Jerry said McKenzie will follow the Green Bay system of general management, which means the coach is the coach. Between Al’s death up till yesterday, the team had no GM. So Hue assumed the role. As long as Hue understands from this point forward he’s the coach, not the GM, then I’d have to believe that, in Reggie’s eyes, Hue is as a coach who lost his star RB and still wound up one game away from the playoffs.
January 9th, 2012 at 1:19 am
Point is, it’s valid speculation and no one knows what the answer is going to be until Reggie tells everyone.
There are as many reasons and ’sources’ saying why it wont happen, as there are saying why it could happen.
And it’s valid speculation because of both 1) and 2). On 2)…thing is Hue did go off at the presser, and for all we know behind closed doors days after (as has been rumored/reported), and if he doesn’t or didn’t pull it in, the new GM can see that as a problem for himself, especially as he’s just starting and is endeavoring to restructure the entire football department to something more cohesive.
So, until an announcement, yay or nay, it’s valid speculation either way.
January 9th, 2012 at 1:32 am
I could see McKenzie firing Hue for posing a threat to his authority. But for Hue posing a threat to the authority of anyone with the Raiders beforehand? Nope. I think McKenzie would understand the situation and know Hue had no choice. In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king. Between Hue and Herrera? Come on. Hue had no choice but to be the man until a GM stepped in.
January 9th, 2012 at 2:47 am
What’s up Nation? Have a few things on my mind. First of all what the hell is it with all these Nations? Red Sox Nation? Maybe. Niners Nation? Kill yourself. Tebow Nation? Kill me, then kill yourself.
Secondly, tough break last week but I’m not surprised a bit. After Campbell went down I thought 8-8 was where we would land. On a positive note, the last time we had back to back 8-8 seasons we were on the cusp of a string of division titles and playoff appearances.
Thinking back to what Al Davis said at the presser of Hue’s hiring “These things are cyclical”. I think we’re rolling now.
January 9th, 2012 at 3:45 am
Doc…only the Raider Nation matters….. the others are imposters…
January 9th, 2012 at 3:53 am
968…Palmer will be back in 2012…. Hues still a question…but theirs no reason not to bring Palmer back….
January 9th, 2012 at 4:49 am
DocPorter11 Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 2:47 am
What’s up Nation? Have a few things on my mind. First of all what the hell is it with all these Nations? Red Sox Nation? Maybe. Niners Nation? Kill yourself. Tebow Nation? Kill me, then kill yourself.
Secondly, tough break last week but I’m not surprised a bit. After Campbell went down I thought 8-8 was where we would land. On a positive note, the last time we had back to back 8-8 seasons we were on the cusp of a string of division titles and playoff appearances.
Thinking back to what Al Davis said at the presser of Hue’s hiring “These things are cyclical”. I think we’re rolling now.
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I keep thinking back to “breakthrough”. The only way it happens is , if a series of picks work, no one gets hurt and key players have big years.
Palmer – 3,035 yds, 24 TD 17 int
McFadden 1,356 yards, 11 TD, 4 rec TD – 15 total TD
Ford 1,345 yds from scrimmage 507 return yards and 4 TDs, 738 receiving yds 8 TDs
Moore 1,003 yds on 80 recepts
Wimbley 10 sacks
Routt – 6 picks
Huff – 3 picks
Bush (if hes still here) – 646 yds rush 6 TDs (4 redzone)
Reece 7 TD – 4 rush 3 receiving
something along those lines – at least 5-6 players need standout years, it all has to come together along with 14-16 games played, 4th quarter TDs, converting 3rd downs, stopping offenses from converting on 3rd down, red zone offense, red zone defense, turnover differential, time of possession. Lot of players have “teased” and now it is time for them to breakthrough.
January 9th, 2012 at 5:49 am
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1015803-steelers-vs-broncos-watch-kick-off-bounce-off-crossbar-and-sit-at-20-yard-line
Freaky
January 9th, 2012 at 5:51 am
Tim Tebow, baby!
January 9th, 2012 at 5:53 am
Chris Mortensen speculated Hue Jackson could be moved aside by new general manager Reggie McKenzie in favor of Green Bay defensive assistant Winston Moss.
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Please make this happen!
January 9th, 2012 at 5:54 am
TIM TEBOW’S # IS 666
January 9th, 2012 at 5:55 am
Following the Green Bay model, McKenzie will stay out of Jackson’s way when it comes to on-field stuff. Mike McCarthy has input with the Packers but ultimately it’s Ted Thompson’s call when it comes to player acquisition, the draft, contracts, etc.
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Happy Monday!
January 9th, 2012 at 5:56 am
tomorrow = super Tuesday!
January 9th, 2012 at 5:59 am
Nice game by Tebow… And I give him credit…
But .. I’m still not sold…. Just the week before Tebow had one of the worse games possible .. He threw for 60 yrds aginst KC….which Tebow shows up?…
January 9th, 2012 at 6:01 am
Tebow passes for over 300 yards against Dick LeBeau’s defense.
hot dang!
We should have traded Kyle Boller, Nick Miller & Hiram Eugene for this guy when he was 4th on the Donkeys depth chart in the offseason.
for all those saying John Elway snarls every time Timmy wins, I gotta say you’re dead wrong. I watched the game yesterday and he was raising his arms, smiling and hugging people
Kinda like Hue Jackson when Chuck B’s defense make a stop against the Texans. First thing he did was go hug Chuck.
Now Chuck is the “goat” because Jackson can’t motivate or discipline. Weird, huh?
January 9th, 2012 at 6:03 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S.SURE GLAD I DIDNT WATCH ANY FOOTBALL THIS WEEKEND. PRESS CONFERENCE 2MORROW WILL BE INTERESTING.WHO WILL INTRODUCE MR.MCKENZIE ?
January 9th, 2012 at 6:04 am
Tuesday 2pm can’t happen soon enough
January 9th, 2012 at 6:05 am
picture this. Raiders draft Tebow instead of McClain. keep Kirk Morrison. Jason Campbell starts every game (when healthy). JCamp goes down this year and Tebow leads us to the playoffs. Campbell’s contract expires. We got draft picks (no Palmer trade. no Pryor drafted) and something for McKenzie to work with in April
let the Rockstar bashing begin!
January 9th, 2012 at 6:07 am
Rockstar… Sure Elways was giddy yesterday… Do you think Elway was giddy last week aginst the Chefs…. real easy to throw your arms up and scream that Tebows the best…. But you gotta take the whole package… He won very impressively yesterday…. But for the 3 weeks before?… Not so happy .., ..it was more than a good win yesterday… But that’s 1 out of the last 4..
January 9th, 2012 at 6:07 am
Can’t wait for all the anti-Tebow bloggers to show up.
1) he should play FB or TE
2) he can’t read a defense
3) he sucks. all hype
I don’t think the Raiders would have beat Pittsburgh yesterday …
January 9th, 2012 at 6:11 am
Not gonna bash your opinion… But your post is filled with ” What If”… We didn’t draft Tebow or trade for him…..we could have drafted lots of other players but we didn’t…
..I don’t recall the Donks ever offering Tebow up for a trade…
January 9th, 2012 at 6:11 am
Fingers,
if you’re worried about regular season wins & losses and your team just beat the Steelers out of the playoffs, I’d say you’ve got major issues.
If Palmer finished 0-3 down the stretch and still won the AFC West, then went on to beat Pitts in OT at home passing for over 300 yards without Denny Moore (Donks didn’t have Decker) I’d say you’d be pretty stoked right now, correct ???
January 9th, 2012 at 6:13 am
by the way,
judging Tebow on how he played versus KC is not right.
how did Palmer do versus KC twice this year?
January 9th, 2012 at 6:16 am
should be interesting to see Tebow get another shot at redemption, playing the Pats who stopped his win streak & started his downward spiral in the regular season. Would love to see him get the “W” and then play the winner of Baltimore/Houston …
A Ravens vs Giants Super Bowl would be fun to watch (replay of SB 2000)
January 9th, 2012 at 6:17 am
Rockstar… Regular season counts … Wins and losses get you to post season…. I gave Tebow credit for yestetday… But your posting a bunch of What ifs … great win by Tebow… But the fact remains that the week before he threw for 60 yrds and lost…. I’m not ready to call him the next Elway or baby Jesus …
January 9th, 2012 at 6:21 am
Palmer had 1 start aginst Kc… We won the game….and he came in relief for Boller… And we lost…. That has what to do with Tebow ?
January 9th, 2012 at 6:23 am
I think Mckenzie is going to come in and seriously evaluate everyone. He is suppose to be a great judge of talent and character. Hue will get another year. A rookie head coach with the circumstances that he faced deseves to show what he can do when all he has to focus on is coaching a team. Bresnahan is gone. He is suppose to be a veteran coordinator and has never really proven himself to be able to build a dominate defense. There should be some real turnover in the assistant coaching ranks. With all the talk of our recievers, there should be some talk about who’s coaching them. A good assistant in that position would make a big difference.
It’s going to be all buisness now with a new sheriff in town. Gone are the days of bringing in puppets and athletes. Now we should see coaches and football players. It may take a couple of years but greatness is on the way. I for one am so excited about the dawn of a new era.
January 9th, 2012 at 6:24 am
Lmaoooo… Judging Tebows loss aginst Kc isn’t right?… Really… Lmaoooooo … why?.. That’s how it works…. Your judged by your play…. Tebow had a great win yesterday… And the 3 weeks prior he stunk….
January 9th, 2012 at 6:24 am
SOOO…NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP GAME 2NIGHT..
January 9th, 2012 at 6:24 am
982.Sullivan44 Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 1:32 am
I could see McKenzie firing Hue for posing a threat to his authority. But for Hue posing a threat to the authority of anyone with the Raiders beforehand? Nope. I think McKenzie would understand the situation and know Hue had no choice. In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king. Between Hue and Herrera? Come on. Hue had no choice but to be the man until a GM stepped in.
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That, and there’s no way he makes the trade autonomously. At some point he had to have conversed with (at least Herrera) and probably Amy Trask as well. Those two have too much seniority in the org to not be at least part of the discussion, let alone sign off on it.
January 9th, 2012 at 6:28 am
Well findout real soon if Hues in McKenzies plans…
January 9th, 2012 at 6:30 am
Damn it’s not Tuesday yet ….oh well.. wake me up when tomorrow’s presser starts.. Good day RaiderNation
January 9th, 2012 at 6:32 am
I’ve read artical both ways… McKenzies will fire Hue… McKenzie will keep Hue on…
Hard to say… Today they meet and I’d think Hue will be onboard…
January 9th, 2012 at 6:34 am
I feel that he will get a second shot but on a very short leash with a muzzle.. Can’t wait for tomorrow’s presser..see what Mr. Mckenzie has to say about what changes are to be made in the short time he has had to evaluate the org. I hope that he can speak with some details not common generalities.
January 9th, 2012 at 6:36 am
Same here..about them both sharing the same agent so that is a tie that will bind them?? and then the opposite that he will get canned, but those are unnamed sources as always..
January 9th, 2012 at 6:37 am
Another interesting note:
QB faceoff yesterday was Big Ben (r@pist) versus Timmy T (chriti@n) … guess who won?
good triumps over evil, suckas!
January 9th, 2012 at 6:48 am
I heard Nick miller just raving about McKenzies eye for talent… Think we’re in good hands whatever McKenzie decides about Jackson
January 9th, 2012 at 6:49 am
let the Rockstar bashing begin!
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Don’t need Tebow, we have Pryor.
January 9th, 2012 at 6:51 am
I’m just glad Hue Jackson is not a LOCK to return, and that he will be evaluated based upon performance just like everybody else. no scholarships!
If McKenzie retains him?
no big deal. that means Reggie sees potential, but there is definately room for growth imo.
Hue doesn’t deserve to be Head Coach, but that doesn’t mean he won’t be retained at that position and do a fine job.
January 9th, 2012 at 6:52 am
So RRS is still in love with a Bronco QB.
Sad!
Dedicating 90% of his posts on a RAIDER board to trying to convince us that we need a Donkey QB on our roster?
Unbelievable.
January 9th, 2012 at 6:54 am
Even better than tomorrow’s presser , I’d like to hear today’s conversation between McKenzie and Jackson… Since we’re wishing ..
January 9th, 2012 at 6:55 am
989.RaiderRockstar Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 5:53 am
Chris Mortensen speculated Hue Jackson could be moved aside by new general manager Reggie McKenzie in favor of Green Bay defensive assistant Winston Moss.
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Please make this happen!
Hue doesn’t deserve to be Head Coach,
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How does Moss deserve to be HC more than Jackson?
January 9th, 2012 at 6:56 am
Fk Tebow… .. He had a very impressive win yesterday…. I wish he’d lost… I used to say the same about Elway… I never want the Donks to win and I won’t get giddy when they do …
January 9th, 2012 at 6:56 am
I heard Nick miller just raving about McKenzies eye for talent
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LOL!
didn’t the Rams GM & HC both get fired for bringing in Albino Smurf ???
January 9th, 2012 at 6:58 am
Calirock83 Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 6:34 am
I hope that he can speak with some details not common generalities.
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Indeed. catch-cries like “the greatness of the raiders lies in the future” or “i want the raiders to be great, we want to be great” or “the great raiders teams of the past were all tough and physical, i am going to build a bully”
January 9th, 2012 at 7:00 am
Rockstar… Look you can hang on Tebows sack if you want …
What the Rams did Had zero to do with McKenzie and the Raiders….. Or Nick Niller saying McKenzie has a great eye for talent…..nothing at all… We’re talking about the Raiders
January 9th, 2012 at 7:02 am
START OFF WITH “EVERYBODY IS FIRE’D” AND GO FROM THERE..
January 9th, 2012 at 7:02 am
How does Moss deserve to be HC more than Jackson?
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Jhill,
Moss is a former Raider LB, like Reggie. one tough SOB
asst HC in GB. also coaches their LB’s Matthews, Hawk and whoever else. due for a promotion, like McKenzie
If this happens, that means McKenzie is cleaning house and bringing in “his guys”. plus Moss reminds me of Mike Tomlin – no nonsense. no mani/pedis. the Raiders haven’t had a Defensive minded HC in forever!
January 9th, 2012 at 7:02 am
You can’t really expect the new GM to come out and just lay things out in the presser.
You’re going to get a bunch of nothing, lol.
January 9th, 2012 at 7:03 am
Don’t need Tebow, we have Pryor
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Agreed 100% with J Wiggle
January 9th, 2012 at 7:05 am
Look you can hang on Tebows sack if you want
We’re talking about the Raiders
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Fingers,
that was pretty rude, but point taken
January 9th, 2012 at 7:06 am
GG , Cali… Agree… I don’t want to hear about the past either… And all the catch phrases … I want to hear what his plans for our future are…
January 9th, 2012 at 7:07 am
Reporter: Any ideas on the defense?
GM: Guys, I just got here. I’m going to sit down with the fine people we have on staff here and start going over ……
You can pretty much plug that answer in to some degree on roster decisions, coaching staff, and parking space assignments.
January 9th, 2012 at 7:08 am
Rockstar.. Didn’t mean to be rude… But I can’t get all excited about Tebows win… I gave him credit.., I’m more concerned with our situation… We both know where we stand on Tebow.. Can we move on ?..
January 9th, 2012 at 7:12 am
Moss is a former Raider LB, like Reggie. one tough SOB
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I don’t need that as the first thing on a resume.
And I don’t see any HC experience on his resume to say that he is more qualified than Jackson.
Asst HC in GB?????
Has nothing to do with the offense there and he is NOT the DC there. So what is he doing that merits him getting our HC job???
Can’t see it.
Wouldn’t even be my first choice for DC. Would rather have Fox’s ex DC Tragovic(sp).
January 9th, 2012 at 7:14 am
1015.RaiderRockstar Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 6:37 am
Another interesting note:
QB faceoff yesterday was Big Ben (r@pist) versus Timmy T (chriti@n) … guess who won?
good triumps over evil, suckas!
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I get so tired of the God is on Tebow’s side crap. It was the Broncos vs. the Steelers yesterday, not Tebow vs. Ben Roethlesberger.
Intimating that good won over evil is an insult to every Pittsburgh Steeler that worships and/or has a spiritual life. Knock it off.
January 9th, 2012 at 7:18 am
Just as long as McKenzie jumps in on our defense( non Defense)… Open to keeping Hue… Abd I’m also ok if he decides to part ways with Hue… Theirs also the possibility Hue won’t want to stay.. May not be on the same page with MCkenzie.. Who knows ..
January 9th, 2012 at 7:19 am
I’d like to hear today’s conversation between McKenzie and Jackson… Since we’re wishing
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Fingers,
Hue Jackson is all talk. If the interview is just about saying the right things, having a plan and making promises … expect him to be retained.
If McKenzie starts reviewing film and throws Hue a few “what were you thinkings?” then maybe he’ll decide to take a different route. I don’t see Hue being power hungry or demanding more control either. Hue is a good dude, just clueless and sort of feminine
January 9th, 2012 at 7:20 am
I can’t see Hue saying he wants out…. I think Hues gonna bendover backwards to make it work..
January 9th, 2012 at 7:22 am
Rockstar..yep..I think Hue will say what he thinks McKenzie wants to hear… He is a talker ..
January 9th, 2012 at 7:23 am
Dear Reggie (and my long suffering fellow fans),
Please see accompanying analysis of exactly why this once-proud franchise devolved into a cesspool of underachieving and dysfunction. I think you will find this summary very illuminating. Good luck and all success for 2012.
Sincerely,
OhioRaider (fan since 1970)
http://www.forbes.com/sites/ericjackson/2012/01/02/the-seven-habits-of-spectacularly-unsuccessful-executives/
January 9th, 2012 at 7:25 am
Broncos won yesterday because the Steelers were injured. I think the Raiders could have beet them too. That is what makes the loss to San Diego so disappointing.
January 9th, 2012 at 7:26 am
And more than a few times I thnk we all knew Hue was jiving us in his pressers….. But more than a few headcoachs have been know to jive …I get tired of it.. But it seems to go with the job in a lot of cases… It’s PR.. Don’t like it.. But that’s the reality
January 9th, 2012 at 7:26 am
reason # 1,314 to despise the Steelers
January 9th, 2012 at 7:27 am
Especially when Hue was telling us about Injurys… I always left the pressers thinking … I don’t know anymore than I knew before !
January 9th, 2012 at 7:28 am
I wonder if Jackson will get his nails done before he meets with McKenzie. Maybe he’ll go without a pedicure until we make the playoffs–make a statement.
January 9th, 2012 at 7:29 am
914.J Hill Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 10:28 pm
We’ve won a ring with an injured Bynum limping around, Dakota.
We built our offense around DMac moreso than the Lakers building theirs around Bynum. DMac went down this year and we were phuggedd the same way we’d be phugged if Bynum went down.
I don’t see the difference.
If DMac plays well enough to get a contract extension from us and then goes down for half the season, we’ll be phugged again.
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Well, if you can’t see the difference, then there is no hope for you lol.
January 9th, 2012 at 7:31 am
Albert… I get sick to my stomach anytime the Donks win… Doesn’t even matter who it’s aginst…. I was raised to hate everything Orange and Blue… My father took me to my first Raider game as a boy and I’ve been hooked ever since…. Doesn’t matter who the Donks Qb is… I despise them…just my way ..
January 9th, 2012 at 7:32 am
Hue Jax is sweating right now for sure…could be 50-50?
January 9th, 2012 at 7:32 am
Bob Marley nails it:
Bob Marley Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 7:16 pm
Let’s see:
Sean Payton gave up some of his own money to hire Gregg Williams as DC.
Gary Kubiak didn’t get over the hump until they hired DC Wade Phillips.
Mike McCarthy’s team took the next step once Dom Capers was hired as DC.
Andy Reid missed the playoffs for the 1st time in the last 4 years when he neglected the DC position and decided to go with an OL coach there.
Those are some of the best offensive minds around, Payton and McCarthy have rings, Reid is among the winningest active coaches.
Now Hue Jackson isn’t anywhere near those guys just yet, that’s obvious.
Point is, even the best offensive minds around need or have needed a hand with their own Defense, just like Hue does now.
Interesting that Payton and McCarthy, winners of the last 2 Super Bowls, both call their own plays and both had to go get a big-name DC in order to maximize their team’s potential all the way to a title.
Give Hue a decent DC, warn him about the flags and see how far can he take us.
When you average 26 ppg and 500 yards of offense in your last 2 must-win home games and you don’t win, you deserve another shot with a competent defense.
January 9th, 2012 at 7:34 am
teabag blows up the vaunted 3-4 defense….lol
January 9th, 2012 at 7:34 am
Bottom line, if Hue is going to be a pain in McKenzie’s azz then Hue needs to go, no matter how well he runs the offense.
Only McKenzie can make that call.
January 9th, 2012 at 7:34 am
I can’t wait till the Broncos go 6-10 next season.
January 9th, 2012 at 7:35 am
Not sure the Defense the Raiders played down the stretch could beat anybody…gotta be able to make a stop at some point… Our Defence just couldn’t do it…..
January 9th, 2012 at 7:35 am
Get ova it people
Get use to it
New GM keeping ENTIRE coaching staff in tact
Does not want to be the culprit that trashes the late Mr Davis’ final hires and thus tarnish his legacy
New GM will make it work with what we got
Budget considerations a big factor too in decision
It’s a no brainer
Hue happy camper
Chucky B happy camper
While some may want new GM to fire everyone, new GM takes ‘don’t rock the boat’ policy
Status Quo to remain
HOWEVER, notice to succeed will be served
Hue will be given pimp hand authoritah
Chucky B will have new life as Raider DC
Amidst the jeers and hisses after the presser, new GM will say to all loud and clear: Get ova it!
January 9th, 2012 at 7:36 am
I wonder if Hue would give some of his $ for a new DC?
January 9th, 2012 at 7:38 am
D Howard pouting in Orlando, Dakota.
O pts and 0 rebs through 3 qtrs yesterday.
Finished with 5 pts and 4 boards.
Maybe we can get him for Artest straight up.
January 9th, 2012 at 7:39 am
Chefs just signed Crennel to a 3 yr deal… Just in case anybody’s interested
January 9th, 2012 at 7:39 am
Albert Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 7:34 am
I can’t wait till the Broncos go 6-10 next season.
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Its that what your crystal ball told you? What will the Raidahs do next season? And what about New England? They gotta be due for a downturn.
January 9th, 2012 at 7:43 am
Clark … We’re gonna have a better idea about Next year when we hear McKenzies vision of the team…tomorrow… Right now were posting opinions…
January 9th, 2012 at 7:43 am
1056.J Hill Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 7:38 am
D Howard pouting in Orlando, Dakota.
O pts and 0 rebs through 3 qtrs yesterday.
Finished with 5 pts and 4 boards.
Maybe we can get him for Artest straight up.
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We can throw in Murphy if it will get the deal done….
January 9th, 2012 at 7:43 am
Theirs also the possibility Hue won’t want to stay.. May not be on the same page with MCkenzie.. Who knows ..
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fat chance. Hue would never stiff another HC opportunity again!
January 9th, 2012 at 7:43 am
Fire Hue!
January 9th, 2012 at 7:44 am
You got Drew Brees doing that pregame thing he does to get his troops riled up, you see Tebow doing his thing, Brady always yelling at people.
I hope Pryor is part of the Heart of Lion club, or he has no chance to win in January.
January 9th, 2012 at 7:45 am
Good move by KC. Crennell is a smart guy whose record in Cleveland should be taken with a grain of salt. Nobody’s succeeded there (Bill B. included) since Shottenheimer, and that was a thousand years ago. If they can get a quality starter at QB they will be a factor in the West.
January 9th, 2012 at 7:48 am
Clark Griswald Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 7:35 am
Get ova it people
Get use to it
New GM keeping ENTIRE coaching staff in tact
Does not want to be the culprit that trashes the late Mr Davis’ final hires and thus tarnish his legacy
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Ha ha ha ha ha ha! You a funny guy. Get ova it, that’s too much!!
January 9th, 2012 at 7:49 am
Trade Palmer for a 3rd
January 9th, 2012 at 7:50 am
I give credit to Mistic1 on his “wave of the future” thing.
That Bronco offense is tough to scheme, with so many of the plays looking the same, with all kinds of variations off it.
Lebau was confused, as evident by the last play of the game. Troy P was abused down the field. They ran right at Defensive MVP James Harrison and he got burnt on the edge.
I think we need to incorporate some of this stuff with Pryor in 2012.
January 9th, 2012 at 7:52 am
Vegas……palmer sure has no fire
January 9th, 2012 at 7:55 am
Vegas……palmer sure has no fire
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I know. So-Cal thing.
I think Palmer can get us to the playoffs though, and maybe Pryor can take the reins from there.
January 9th, 2012 at 7:55 am
Yeah mistic may be right…but pryor I’m not sold on
January 9th, 2012 at 7:56 am
On Pryor; I want the guy to succeed, I really do. He’s a Raider, and if he does well then the team does well (providing we’re able to fix the defense within the next few years, lol).
The issue I have is that, while Tebow was always talked up as a winner that overcame the doubters and virtually willed his teams to win, the overriding sentiment regarding Pryor was that he wasn’t living up to the hype. Sure, he won a lot in college, but Ohio State has won literally hundreds of games over the years with mediocre quarterbacks. A look at current NFL rosters should tell you that winning 10 or 11 games a year as a QB at Ohio State doesn’t translate to much in the big leagues.
As I said, I really want the guy to do well here. I’m just not ready to say that he will. Watching him play in college didn’t exactly make me think this guy’s the real deal and he’s going to be a star at the next level.
Stranger things have happened, but…
January 9th, 2012 at 7:57 am
I was excited when we acquired Soup, only because I knew it signaled the end of The Chosen One.
I was excited when we acquired Palmer, mostly because I knew it signaled the end of the Soup era.
But ultimately, Palmer will probably need to be upgraded.
We shall see. I have tons of faith in him to win games in October.
It just takes a different kind of cat to win in January.
January 9th, 2012 at 7:57 am
Hue is a So-Cal thing….Carson just a rich boy
January 9th, 2012 at 7:57 am
Clark…you already know the GM will keep the whole staff on… And your crystal ball told you so?……
January 9th, 2012 at 7:58 am
Clark Griswald Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 7:39 am
Albert Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 7:34 am
I can’t wait till the Broncos go 6-10 next season.
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Its that what your crystal ball told you? What will the Raidahs do next season? And what about New England? They gotta be due for a downturn.
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Denver is no different than Seattle last year. They will come back down to reality.
January 9th, 2012 at 8:00 am
Brien, what are you doing up so early? Are the libraries open this early in California? I figured you would still be sleeping off your crack high from last night.
January 9th, 2012 at 8:00 am
Carson just a rich boy
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Yeah, but so was Tom Brady, and he may be one of the fiercest competitors ever.
January 9th, 2012 at 8:00 am
I just don’t like Pryor
January 9th, 2012 at 8:00 am
#1040 that is scary accurate. Nice spot.
January 9th, 2012 at 8:00 am
Denver will compete with the Pats much more so than the Seachickens did to the Bears last year in the playoffs.
I wouldn’t be suprised if the Donks won Saturday night.
I hope 504 got those Super Bowl winning odds he was talking about a few months ago.
January 9th, 2012 at 8:01 am
What’s scary about Denver is that they are doing it with average talent at RB, Willis is in his last legs and a fumbler while Lance Ball is a 3rd stringer and Moreno can’t stay healthy and is nothing special when he is.
They don’t have a decent pass-catching TE either.
Throw in a quality Tailback and an athletic TE who can catch and they will be much better.
Of course, it all depends on Tebow and his growth as a passer, his current style of play will likely lead to disaster, as in a torn ACL or concussion issues.
January 9th, 2012 at 8:02 am
Just fire… I agree that eventually Palmer will need to be upgraded… We need to develope a youngster…but I still see Palmer here for a few yrs..Till we get that guy to develope.., you probley know a lot more about Pryor than I do…has he got what it takes from what you’ve seen?.. I never saw him play..
January 9th, 2012 at 8:02 am
Tom Bradyfrom God’s country
January 9th, 2012 at 8:05 am
I think Pryor sucks too…but Palmer will never be a winner…that we know for sure
January 9th, 2012 at 8:05 am
I know Pryor was a Al pick… And Al’s Last Qb pick didn’t impress us much..
January 9th, 2012 at 8:05 am
Gotta give Tebow credit for yesterday. Made some really nice downfield throws and kept drives alive with his legs. Easily his best performance as a pro.
FYI, he still stinks.
January 9th, 2012 at 8:06 am
Good morning, anyone else guilty of making money on the donkeys?
January 9th, 2012 at 8:06 am
Chris in NY.
Bob Marley nails it:
Let’s see:
Sean Payton gave up some of his own money to hire Gregg Williams as DC.
Gary Kubiak didn’t get over the hump until they hired DC Wade Phillips.
Mike McCarthy’s team took the next step once Dom Capers was hired as DC.
Andy Reid missed the playoffs for the 1st time in the last 4 years when he neglected the DC position and decided to go with an OL coach there.
Those are some of the best offensive minds around, Payton and McCarthy have rings, Reid is among the winningest active coaches.
Now Hue Jackson isn’t anywhere near those guys just yet, that’s obvious.
Point is, even the best offensive minds around need or have needed a hand with their own Defense, just like Hue does now.
Interesting that Payton and McCarthy, winners of the last 2 Super Bowls, both call their own plays and both had to go get a big-name DC in order to maximize their team’s potential all the way to a title.
Give Hue a decent DC, warn him about the flags and see how far can he take us.
When you average 26 ppg and 500 yards of offense in your last 2 must-win home games and you don’t win, you deserve another shot with a competent defense.
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- But some people here would have fired those guys because they could not “lead” or “manage” an entire team.
January 9th, 2012 at 8:06 am
Of course, it all depends on Tebow and his growth as a passer, his current style of play will likely lead to disaster, as in a torn ACL or concussion issues.
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Dilfer made an intersting point on this, that most QB’s (save for our guy Soup) get hurt while in the pocket.
I have yet to see Tebow get blasted on any of his runs.
Hell, he ran right at an unblocked James Harrison yesterday, multiple times.
I think he can do this for probably 3-4 years, until he loses some of that youthful athleticism.
January 9th, 2012 at 8:07 am
Bob Marley Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
Sean Payton gave up some of his own money to hire Gregg Williams as DC.
Gary Kubiak didn’t get over the hump until they hired DC Wade Phillips.
Andy Reid missed the playoffs for the 1st time in the last 4 years when he decided to go with an OL coach as DC.
Mike McCarthy’s team took the next step once Dom Capers was hired as DC.
Those are some of the best offensive minds around, Payton and McCarthy have rings, Reid is among the winningest active coaches.
Now Hue Jackson isn’t anywhere near those guys just yet, that’s obvious.
Point is, even the best offensive minds around need or needed a hand with their own Defense, just like Hue does now.
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The best offensive minds know what to do with the opening game coin flip. Jackson doesn’t. Are you going to argue he does?
Sean Payton, Andy Reid, Mike McCarthy don’t get badly outcoached in the 2nd half of games. Those guys don’t go a third of the season without scoring points in the 4th quarter and putting it all on a very suspect defense. Big difference.
January 9th, 2012 at 8:08 am
I was not impressed with Pryor in college, but I will wait to pass judgement until I see him play a little in the Pro’s.
I don’t think he will be very good, but maybe Ohio State stunted his growth.
That is my hope.
January 9th, 2012 at 8:08 am
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Marty ball may be back. Raiders play Bucs next year. Can chalk that game up as a loss.
January 9th, 2012 at 8:08 am
And Vegas…look at Brady’s story…he kept being dogged and undervalued while Carson been overrated since he was in high school
January 9th, 2012 at 8:09 am
Hue doesn’t tell us much about Pryors development ..
January 9th, 2012 at 8:09 am
Fingers & Teach trashing the Donks, but talking up KC?
LOL … must be a Tebow thing!
January 9th, 2012 at 8:10 am
B,
There actually was an article in this past Sports Illustrated about Tom at Michigan.
Kept getting overlooked because of Drew Henson and actually quality Michigan fans like BSJ used to boo him.
Just made him tougher.
January 9th, 2012 at 8:11 am
Give it a rest Brien. Your sounding pathetic today.
January 9th, 2012 at 8:11 am
Glenn……..you are correct. Halftime adjustments wasn’t Hue’s strongsuit…not HC material…fire his ass
January 9th, 2012 at 8:12 am
“Boo hoo hoo, Carson is a rich boy!” STFU Brien
January 9th, 2012 at 8:14 am
Vegas exactly….what has made spoil rich boy Palmer tougher?
January 9th, 2012 at 8:14 am
Rockstar … Maybe you can’t see because your swinging on Tebows sack …but I don’t recall Talking up Kc… You have a comprehension problem… Or is it just stupidity?…
January 9th, 2012 at 8:15 am
The Manning brothers were privileged too. They did fine. Shut your ignorant mouth Brien.
January 9th, 2012 at 8:17 am
Rockstar … I can understand you mentioning to Tebow had a great game… But to keep gushing about Tebow on a Raider blog is stupid… Me pointing out that kc beat the donks isn’t talking up KC…
January 9th, 2012 at 8:17 am
AlbertaMR…how’s Sac treatin ya?
January 9th, 2012 at 8:17 am
Method To My Madness Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 8:00 am
I just don’t like Pryor
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It would seem you don’t like anyone.
January 9th, 2012 at 8:18 am
1095.RaiderRockstar Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 8:09 am
Fingers & Teach trashing the Donks, but talking up KC?
LOL … must be a Tebow thing!
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I wasn’t trashing the Donks, I was trashing your post about good vs. evil regarding the Steelers game. That was childish and not very well thought out, and as I said an insult to every Steeler that worships and/or has a spiritual life. Just because a guy doesn’t get national media attention for his beliefs doesn’t mean he is absent any spiritual character.
KC made a good move to hire Crennell, in my opinion. They have a very good defense and weapons on offense. If they can find a QB to go with that they’ll be a factor.
Don’t see how that would relate to my thinking anything negative about Tebow. I happen to think he’s a quality young man.
January 9th, 2012 at 8:19 am
Method To My Madness Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 8:11 am
Glenn……..you are correct. Halftime adjustments wasn’t Hue’s strongsuit…not HC material…fire his ass
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Exactly Brien. there are some things about Jackson I like, he’s just not head coaching material. That is painfully evident.
January 9th, 2012 at 8:19 am
Mannings aren’t arrogant and lived right near common folks in New Orleans AlbertaMR…Archie lives in that same house to this day…try again…Eli nor Peyton carry that persona like Palmer does
January 9th, 2012 at 8:20 am
Morning fellers.
IDK if anyone has brought this up but… Only way we get Winston Moss for anything less than Head Coach we need the Packers permission.
January 9th, 2012 at 8:21 am
RaiderPunk…I liked JC
January 9th, 2012 at 8:22 am
Vegas.
“Dilfer made an intersting point on this, that most QB’s (save for our guy Soup) get hurt while in the pocket.
I have yet to see Tebow get blasted on any of his runs.
Hell, he ran right at an unblocked James Harrison yesterday, multiple times.
I think he can do this for probably 3-4 years, until he loses some of that youthful athleticism.”
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He does seem to avoid ugly hits the bastard, but it only takes one play.
January 9th, 2012 at 8:23 am
Rockstar got his little feeling crushed because some of us aren’t all giddy over Tebow… You’ll never see me gushing over any Donkey Qb… Rockstar.., you go ahead and nuzzle up to Tebow and the Donks if you want…..
January 9th, 2012 at 8:24 am
fucc denver!
January 9th, 2012 at 8:25 am
Glenn….people make excuses for Hue’s failures but he costs us playing a rematch game vs New England this Saturday. If you can’t make halftime adjustments then you shouldn’t be a head coach
January 9th, 2012 at 8:26 am
TP has more talent to work with than Tebow. He has a stronger arm, more accurate, and he has more speed.
BTW,
Denver won yesterday and most of their games due to their defense.
Tebow would have not played a down if he was black. Not trying to start a race issue, but that’s a fact.
January 9th, 2012 at 8:28 am
Would have not played a down at QB*
January 9th, 2012 at 8:28 am
Brien,
What are your feelings about Al Saunders? We know that Hue has the final say as to what plays are called, but do you think that the lack of adjustments has anything to do with Saunders? He is the OC, after all.
No agenda, just want to know what you think.
January 9th, 2012 at 8:30 am
Denver players played hard for their head coach and their QB….in Oakland can you say the same thing?…and Denver ruuns a 4-3 defense you morons! John Fox is a 4-3 guy…smh at u fools who thought they do 3-4
January 9th, 2012 at 8:31 am
A person would think that the one place in the world were a sports fan could go and not hear the name Teblow would be here in a Raiders blog.
Smh
January 9th, 2012 at 8:32 am
Saunders is a proven OC Edward
January 9th, 2012 at 8:34 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 8:31 am
A person would think that the one place in the world were a sports fan could go and not hear the name Teblow would be here in a Raiders blog.
Smh
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Ahaha Real Spit….
January 9th, 2012 at 8:35 am
Fk Tebow… And Fk the Donkeys too ..
January 9th, 2012 at 8:36 am
666 who cares about Shebow…..Hue allowed that to happen and this is on his gap toothed LA ass
January 9th, 2012 at 8:37 am
This is a team sport, i don’t think it’s fair to put the blame this season on 1 or 2 guys.
If you swapped Denvers D with ours, we’d be the division winner and Denver would be last in the division.
Fix the D and we’re going places.
I don’t know how Tebow does it, he has the longest wind up i have ever seen! D. Thomas was an animal yesterday, the last play he scorched his man.
January 9th, 2012 at 8:37 am
Trade Palmer for a 3rd????
I guess part 2 of your plan would be to resign JC.
Followed by cutting Pryor, and drafting the 5th rd prospect you mentioned yesterday.
You also want to bring in Moss who has zero experience at even a coordinator, eh?
Let me digest that for a minute ….
January 9th, 2012 at 8:38 am
1120.Method To My Madness Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 8:32 am
Saunders is a proven OC Edward
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That was my thought, which makes the lack of good halftime adjustments even more of a mystery. So Hue must be ignoring advice from him, then?
January 9th, 2012 at 8:40 am
The Broncos defeating an injury-plauged Steelers team is a good thing….means Elway is now locked in to keeping Teblow for a couple of years. And that is a good thing for the Raiders. All smoke and mirrors.
Of course, if we still have idiots like Curry and Wimbley, Teblow can probably still kick our azzes.
January 9th, 2012 at 8:41 am
“I’m gonna do what I think is best for this team”……..meaning gettin his pals and fkin over other guys
January 9th, 2012 at 8:42 am
Ed Teach….Hue ego so big of course he didn’t listen
January 9th, 2012 at 8:45 am
Jhill the Black Arm & Hammer……heard of John Harbaugh? John Madden?
January 9th, 2012 at 8:45 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 8:31 am
A person would think that the one place in the world were a sports fan could go and not hear the name Teblow would be here in a Raiders blog.
Smh
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Thank you. Just to illustrate how far-reaching and inescapable the Tebow hype is: One of the beat writers, I think it was Tafur, retweeted something Lady Gaga tweeted about Tebow being an f-ing champion or something like that. It’s like the plague.
January 9th, 2012 at 8:47 am
*Discount Double Check gesture*
January 9th, 2012 at 8:47 am
Deja Vu I disagree….we got way more talent than denver…they got more heart and passion than we do…that’s the difference
January 9th, 2012 at 8:48 am
I’m not too excited about Winston moss running our defense…the greenbay defense is atrocious. .. the packers are lucky to have that great offense but their defense stinks… we need to find our new defensive coordinator elsewhere. ..perhaps in Baltimore or Pittsburgh. ..I hope McKenzie interviews Dennis Thurman. ..
January 9th, 2012 at 8:48 am
Marley,
What do you think we should do on defense next season, specifically:
- Who do you like for DC
- 3-4 or 4-3
- Who’d you like to see for efensive starters including realistically attainable FAs and rooks.
January 9th, 2012 at 8:49 am
so did smith (falcons coach) have hue on speed dial? couldn’t help but think of hue when he went for it on 4th and didn’t care for taking the 3 points 2x.
January 9th, 2012 at 8:50 am
Brien,
If that’s true, then Saunders’ visit with Reggie McKenzie should be an interesting one.
I can’t help thinking that there are a lot of parallels between Hue Jackson’s and Todd Haley’s coaching regimes. Not the public part, but behind the scenes.
January 9th, 2012 at 8:50 am
Hey Jhill….Herm Edwards wasn’t a coordinator and didn’t do too bad leading two teams to playoffs
January 9th, 2012 at 8:51 am
Harbaugh???
The guy with Ngata, Suggs, Lewis, and Ed Reed?
Madden?
Really??????
January 9th, 2012 at 8:51 am
Glenn….people make excuses for Hue’s failures but he costs us playing a rematch game vs New England this Saturday. If you can’t make halftime adjustments then you shouldn’t be a head coach
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People who think the reason we lost an extra game or two this season is because of Hue dont really know anything about football.
Hue Jackson is an offensive style head coach. His expertise is on the offensive side of the ball, including calling the plays during the game. Maybe he should hand those duties over to Al Saunders for next season considering he has trouble holding his water durind the games, but that’s another issue.
Anyways, the point is, people can blame the offense and defense on him, but the reality is, a coach like him (and there are many others) depends on the defensive coaches to coach that side of the ball. Every NFL head coach has an area of expertise, and they depend heavily on their coordinators on the opposite side of the ball.
And the Raiders defense and defensive schemes were terrible. All season. Bresnehan’s defense single handedly cost us 2 games (Bills and Lions), and numerous others, in my opinion when the offense struggled to get going, such as the Miami game. Or what about the Bronco game when Hue’s offense gave us a 24-7 lead?
Any team with any semblance of a defense does not get down 38-0 to a 3 win team. There’s no other way to spin it.
If the raiders played any level of consistent defense, which isn’t Hue’s area of expertise, we would have been watching Hue’s top 10 offense in the playoffs yesterday instead of the gimmic Tebow offense celebrating in OT and ripping our hearts out.
And if we played any sembalnce of defense, all the little things people are mad at Hue about would have been irrelevant; fake FG’s, 4th downs, etc.
The little things did not lose us games this year. Inept defense lost us the season.
As is usually the case in Raider land.
Remember when we blamed Morrison and Howard for our run deficiencies a few years back? Well now where are we? New MLB, new coaches, new defensive line, new everything…same result.
I look forward to Bresnehan being the last of the Al Davis defensive hires, and we can finally move into the 21st century on defense.
Wouldnt it be great news to hear of a Mike Nolan or Wade Phillips coming here as our shiny new DC?
Many problems would be solved.
With all that being said, we definitely need a better CB to go along with Routt. That was a big problem this year.
January 9th, 2012 at 8:53 am
Ed…..haley like hue think their schit don’t stink
January 9th, 2012 at 8:53 am
Brien just spews anger and nonsense and is always right, according to him. Brien, it is guys like you that make the Raiders look ridiculous all the time. You are the quintessential stupid American.
January 9th, 2012 at 8:53 am
I think we should go with a proven DC rather than experiment with someone who may need time to grow into the role.
Two guys that immediately come to mind are Mike Nolan and Jack Del Rio. There could of course be lower profile guys who would be just as good and we’ll see who we get. But I’m not so sure I want to gamble on giving a position coach a bump up at this moment in time.
The reason is this: Keep Hue. Carson Palmer gets a full off-season to work with this team. McFadden is back and paired with Palmer for the first time. DHB, Moore and Ford mature and develop even further. Our young o-line matures and develops even further. We could easily be a 30+ ppg offense and if we can get a seasoned DC who we can expect to put together a solid or hopefully even a good defense we could be at least a 12 win team next year.
January 9th, 2012 at 8:54 am
Sup Meth,
I respect your opinion, but aren’t you always calling for better DT play and wanting some speed rush ends?
We get no pressure and i agree that we need speed on the ends. I think that’s the difference, Denver is good at getting to the QB in a hurry. Our secondary sucks when given a whole lot of time to throw.
January 9th, 2012 at 8:54 am
“Deja Vu I disagree….we got way more talent than denver…they got more heart and passion than we do…that’s the difference”
Ding Ding correct answer!!
Our players laid down last game they did not fight hard or act as if it was a playoff game….it was as if they wanted to go home and start the off season….lack of heart Hue did not have his team ready for prime time.
January 9th, 2012 at 8:56 am
Jhill aka chrome dome….u mentioned about Moss not being a coordinator so I threw some heat right back at ya…don’t make excuses bruh…you sound like a democrat
January 9th, 2012 at 8:57 am
Wade Phillips? ?? I think that dude would rather die than coach the raider d… may as well ask for shanahan to come back…LOL.. I like Thurman. .Jack del Rio.. or possibly spagnulo.
Nolan would be good too… maybe time to change to a 4-3.. as well…
January 9th, 2012 at 8:57 am
Fingers,
you didn’t say “hey guys, KC hired Crennel!” ???
Teach says “yeah. great hire!”
but this is a Raider Blog and talking about any other AFC West teams is “swinging from sack” or “gushing”
January 9th, 2012 at 8:57 am
I think we should go with a proven DC rather than experiment with someone who may need time to grow into the role.
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Agreed.
Like the Trgovic suggestion. Green Bay’s Dline coach.
January 9th, 2012 at 8:58 am
Deja vu…of course I want better dline…but no heart is a direct line to Hue
January 9th, 2012 at 8:58 am
pep of tampa Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 8:49 am
so did smith (falcons coach) have hue on speed dial? couldn’t help but think of hue when he went for it on 4th and didn’t care for taking the 3 points 2x.
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Coughlin also went for it on 4th down rather than trying the FG. Difference is the Giants executed and picked up the yard while the Falcons didn’t. That really wasn’t the deciding factor anyway. Giants pretty thoroughly outplayed Atlanta yesterday.
I love Hue’s willingness to go for it on 4th down. Many times it worked out for us this year and I think coaches who don’t go for it on 4th down are just playing scared to avoid the kind of criticism Mike Smith is getting today.
The one and only time I blame Hue for going for it on 4th down this year was in the Browns game where a late FG would’ve put us up 3 scores and put the game away. That was clearly a mistake. Other than that, I’m all for it.
January 9th, 2012 at 9:00 am
McKenzies problably doing his evaluating right this minute…good… If any team ever needed evaluating it’s our…
January 9th, 2012 at 9:01 am
…just be quiet alberta
January 9th, 2012 at 9:01 am
I can’t stand the spin media people are putting on Hue Jackson and Reggie McKenzie. First of all, as I have expressed, Corkran dislikes the coach. That’s why he calls him Hubert. Furthermore characterizing the meeting of the 2 as a reinterview is B.S. Any new G.M. would want to know the philosophy of the Head Coach and want to hold detailed talks with him.
January 9th, 2012 at 9:01 am
The Problems the Raiders have didn’t start with Hue…. I’m sure McKenzie knows this…
January 9th, 2012 at 9:02 am
McKenzie evaluates Hue blowing our season and allowing Shebowmania to happen
January 9th, 2012 at 9:02 am
Speaking of the Giants. The year we picked McClain that was supposedly the guy they were all lined up to take as they had a dire need for a MLB.
The guy they got instead … Jason Pierre Paul.
As they say, sometimes it’s better to be lucky …
January 9th, 2012 at 9:04 am
Just so you know method.. that idiot Albert is the newest sock puppet member from sullys basement. ..a complete jackass! !
January 9th, 2012 at 9:04 am
Extra large…agree… I’m sure Reggie is evaluating the whole organization .. Top to bottom… Not just Hue..
January 9th, 2012 at 9:04 am
Reggie is smart.
Hue is gone.
Just Win Baby.
January 9th, 2012 at 9:06 am
Coughlin also went for it on 4th down rather than trying the FG. Difference is the Giants executed and picked up the yard while the Falcons didn’t. That really wasn’t the deciding factor anyway. Giants pretty thoroughly outplayed Atlanta yesterday.
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I think John Fox passed on a 50-plus yard FG attempt yesterday, and punted. Prater would probably have made the kick, but Denver had a pretty good lead at the time and Fox played field position instead.
It’s a risk you take sometimes, I suppose.
January 9th, 2012 at 9:06 am
Hue’s greatest trade ever netted us what? How bout that TJ douchmanzadeh signing….did he even get more catches than Hagan? Hahahahaha
January 9th, 2012 at 9:06 am
That defensive coaching staff is definitely gone… atleast the majority of them… I wonder what happens to old man Willie brown… it might be time for him to retire. .
January 9th, 2012 at 9:07 am
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 9:04 am
Reggie is smart.
Hue is gone.
Just Win Baby.
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Hue will be here another season. The team had better be prepared every game, though.
January 9th, 2012 at 9:07 am
Their we’re a whole lot of Reasons why the Raiders season turnedout the way it did…. If a person could pin it down to just 1 problem It would be an easy fix… Our team has multipal problems…
January 9th, 2012 at 9:08 am
Ghostraiders Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 9:04 am
Just so you know method.. that idiot Albert is the newest sock puppet member from sullys basement. ..a complete jackass! !
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I’m not new dip sh*t. Been on this blog for 3 or 4 years now.
January 9th, 2012 at 9:08 am
McClain made one mistake this year, and that of course was the gun incident.
The guy was HURT. Played with basically one leg all season and he’s getting called out for being slow????
No credit for sucking it up and playing hurt?
Did you see his replacement when he did sit out?
January 9th, 2012 at 9:08 am
No more using the if and then following that with a word in the past tense.
No more using “would’ve, could’ve and should’ve” just did or didn’t.
What good is a head coach if he is capable of leading both sides of the ball? The defensive scheme isn’t that complicated. If Jhill can post a diagnosis from the couch, shouldn’t hue be able to do more than shrug his shoulders and shake his head?
Production trumps hype. And results are the only thing you can see, touch and feel
January 9th, 2012 at 9:08 am
Be back later
January 9th, 2012 at 9:09 am
Method To My Madness Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 9:06 am
Hue’s greatest trade ever netted us what? How bout that TJ douchmanzadeh signing….did he even get more catches than Hagan? Hahahahaha
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With considerably less playing time, Housh had more yards and more touchdowns.
January 9th, 2012 at 9:09 am
Method To My Madness Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 9:08 am
Be back later
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LOL, Brien just got kicked out of the library for being disruptive.
January 9th, 2012 at 9:10 am
I know Alberta. … your a troll man… just like sully… complete fools.. your one in the same.. go away jackass..
January 9th, 2012 at 9:10 am
We’ve had the same problems since 2002… Problably even before that…..
McKenzie has his work cut out for him…. won’t be easy or fast
January 9th, 2012 at 9:11 am
If Reggie wants an excuse he will retain Hue.
Go Reggie!
January 9th, 2012 at 9:11 am
Chris in NY Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 8:48 am
Marley,
What do you think we should do on defense next season, specifically:
- Who do you like for DC
- 3-4 or 4-3
- Who’d you like to see for efensive starters including realistically attainable FAs and rooks.
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Here’s my assessment.
The raiders have been assembling guys for the past 3 offseasons that suggest that they want to switch to a 3-4 at some point.
Kamerion Wimbley, Quentin Groves (both pass rushing linebackers, not really coverage guys), Seymour (came from a 3-4), drafted Lamar Houston (perfect 3-4 defensive end), and Romac came from 3-4 ILB at Alabama.
I havent looked at every last free agent or draft pick for this coming season, but the way I see it is this:
We are missing only a 2nd ILB and a NT for a perfect 3-4 defense. I would try to get Abreyo Franklin this offseason as my NT. He is a very good one, and has had a down season playing in a 4-3 in New Orleans; not a good system for his strengths as a player. He could be relatively inexpensive. And the way I see it, he would be our NT for a few seasons and in this draft or the next with our limited picks, we could draft a big space eater as his replacement at NT considering he wont last forever.
As for another ILB to go along with Romac, I dont know the answer yet. We need someone with quickness, intelligence and instinct. Could have been Thomas Howard if we kept him. I still think he’s a pretty good player.
So here’s my defensive lineup if we switched to a 3-4. Like I said, I think we already have most of the roster.
Defensive Line:
Houston – Franklin – Seymour
backups: Kelly – John Henderson – Desmond Bryant
Linebackers:
Wimbley(OLB) – Romac(ILB) – ILB(unknown) – Curry(OLB)
backups/rotation: Shaughnessy(OLB), Goethel(dont know), Trevor Scott(OLB)
Two intriguing players would be Kelly and Shaughnessy. Kelly is the ideal 4-3 DT, and we would be asking him to set the edge and play DE. Dont know if he has the discipline to do that job, and he has always been an up the field pass rusher, not a patient edge setter. Maybe he could be like Jay Ratliff in Dallas? A long and lean 3-4 NT on certain downs? I think he has the strength to do it, but you dont want him going into the season as your only NT. That’s why we need Franklin.
The other interetsing guy is Shaugnessy. Now at first glance, he seems to be strictly a 4-3 DE based on his body type, etc. But there is one guy I would compare him to who made the transition well this season when many people didnt think he could succeed in a 3-4, and that’s Mario Williams of the Texans. They have a very similar body type, at about 270 LBs.
So maybe Shaugnessy could succeed as a stand up pass rushing OLB in a 3-4, like mario williams. Plus he would be good against the run since he is bigger than most OLBs.
I know this was long, but I hope people read it and consider what I’m saying. Tell me your thoughts?
January 9th, 2012 at 9:13 am
1167.J Hill Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 9:08 am
McClain made one mistake this year, and that of course was the gun incident.
The guy was HURT. Played with basically one leg all season and he’s getting called out for being slow????
No credit for sucking it up and playing hurt?
Did you see his replacement when he did sit out?
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Watching Blackstock try and play MLB was almost comical. Of course, he is a Bresnehan guy from the UFL so we pretty much got what we paid for.
January 9th, 2012 at 9:15 am
1087. Not me. I took Pitts -2 and Under 40 on a teaser play. I like New Orleans to steamroll the 49ers this Sunday. Actually, I could see a decent game, with the Saints winning 27-20.
January 9th, 2012 at 9:15 am
Hue Jackson should certainly have to answer for the defense, to a degree.
I have to believe that it wasn’t a surprise to him when Chuck B called plays that had Wimbley matched up one on one with Gates.
Can’t understand why Hue wouldn’t veto that during the week.
Clearly, Davis did not hire Hue Davis for his defensive ideas on how to lead the Raiders. Davis felt he had that side of the ball covered.
The new GM will address that.
January 9th, 2012 at 9:15 am
A year ago Denver was our biatch.
Look at them now. Now look at us. Now at them. Now look at the horse.
Go Reggie!
January 9th, 2012 at 9:18 am
Big playoff push and the team layed down 2006 style againt Miami and Green Bay.
January 9th, 2012 at 9:19 am
McClains gun incident was just part of his problem. .. the Guy looks fat And slow.. misses assignments and had his share of poor tackling… sometimes it looked like he was confused and didn’t look like he wanted to be out there… I’m not sure if fire Burns in this guys belly to truly be a great linebacker… I wish ray Lewis’s mindset could be placed in McClains brain…. but he’s just one of many on this team with those attributes..
January 9th, 2012 at 9:22 am
Clearly, Davis did not hire Hue Davis for his defensive ideas on how to lead the Raiders. Davis felt he had that side of the ball covered.
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That’s because Al was the de facto defensive coordinator. He probably thought he could have hired anyone to be the DC because he was heavily involved on that side of the ball and that was enough. “Just do it the way I tell you to, and we’ll be fine.”
As we know this makes no sense, but Al was in charge and who was going to argue with him?
January 9th, 2012 at 9:23 am
That’s because Al was the de facto defensive coordinator. He probably thought he could have hired anyone to be the DC because he was heavily involved on that side of the ball and that was enough. “Just do it the way I tell you to, and we’ll be fine.”
As we know this makes no sense, but Al was in charge and who was going to argue with him?
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Thank you. Bresnehan was inept and I look forward to a real 21st century NFL defensive coordinator to be here next season.
January 9th, 2012 at 9:23 am
The day we drafted McClain, Cable said we have a guy playing MLB for us that is as big as an OG.
Why do we keep hearing about him being slow?
He’s NEVER been fast.
AND he was playing on a bad leg.
January 9th, 2012 at 9:24 am
Chris in NY Says:
Marley,
What do you think we should do on defense next season, specifically:
- Who do you like for DC
– 3-4 or 4-3
– Who’d you like to see for efensive starters including realistically attainable FAs and rooks.
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Chris
As far a DC goes, I mentioned Mike Trgovac as a candidate because McKenzie has worked with him in GB and should know if he’d be a good hire.
Trgovac has plenty of experience as John Fox’s DC for many years in Carolina and now has a couple of years under Dom Capers as GB’s DL coach, that means he’s versed in both 4-3 and 3-4 schemes and he led GB’s transition from one scheme to the other on DL.
Another choice would be Dennis Thurman, the DB coach for Rex Ryan who he blocked from us last year, if you like Rex’s style of D then Thurman might be a good pick to implement it, but he’s never called plays before so you don’t know for sure what you’re getting, Thurman and Hue are close so that would mean Reggie listened to Hue and liked Thurman enough to bring him in over a Winston Moss who would seems like an obvious candidate, both Thurman and Moss share some of the same positives and negatives.
As far as scheme goes, as someone has been posting the last few days, NFL teams rarely play a base defense these days, something like 40% of time at most with all the nickel and dime and exotic pacakges taking over more traditional alignments.
So, I don’t really have a preference, I think we have some LB’s that would fit a 3-4 with Wimbley and Moss as pass-rushers and McClain and Curry inside, but our DL are better fits for the 4-3, so it’s gonna be a tough call, we’ll need a creative guy who can make adjustments.
As far as FA’s goes, I’d have to take a look at who’s available.
January 9th, 2012 at 9:24 am
Exactly…the Defense was Al’s …. He didn’t hire Hue to run the defense ..it was about the offense..
January 9th, 2012 at 9:27 am
1167.J Hill Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 9:08 am
McClain made one mistake this year, and that of course was the gun incident.
The guy was HURT. Played with basically one leg all season and he’s getting called out for being slow????
No credit for sucking it up and playing hurt?
Did you see his replacement when he did sit out?
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The guy was slow last year too….what excuse are you going to make up for that? Oh, and I watched his last game in college…looked slow on the field then too. I have no idea what his 40 time at the combine was, but sometimes even if a guy is fast at the combine, put pads on him and place him in a game they can slow down.
January 9th, 2012 at 9:27 am
Bill Belichick on the 3-4:
“That’s a media fabrication. There are a lot of different alignments out there. It’s the techniques, the fundamentals that you teach your players, more than the 3-4, 4-3 that people say you use.”
January 9th, 2012 at 9:27 am
Huff best position at Texas was CB from what I saw.
Griffin was the FS all over the place.
Going to be interesting to see him play CB exclusively next year.
January 9th, 2012 at 9:27 am
I dont know if Curry is versatile or smart enough to play ILB in a 3-4. I think he would be better as an edge setter an pass rusher at OLB. He’s good at those things.
I love his motor, but he’s kind of dumb and I think he would struggle in coverage as a ILB.
January 9th, 2012 at 9:28 am
Marley, Hue????? Really.
You must have thought Kiffin was Lombardi.
Go Reggie.
January 9th, 2012 at 9:29 am
McClain does not take his profession seriously. Just take one look at his fat body and face to see that.
Jamarcus Russell part II.
January 9th, 2012 at 9:29 am
I seriously don’t doubt that by Tomorrow we”ll be seeing
“Fire McKenzi” on this blog… .. Never fails..
January 9th, 2012 at 9:29 am
@J Hill
Agree with what you said about McClain, but I think many here at really high expectations.
Also, not sure if he is proving Nick Saben’s comments accurate to McClain being the “Smartest Football player he ever coached.”
January 9th, 2012 at 9:30 am
Bob Marley,
Nice take on Trgovac. He does have the track record you’d want if you were looking for a new DC.
January 9th, 2012 at 9:30 am
I keep going back to McLains gun charge and thinking ..is this guys mind on football?..
January 9th, 2012 at 9:31 am
Do we know yet is the DC is a gonner?
January 9th, 2012 at 9:32 am
The guy was slow last year too….what excuse are you going to make up for that?
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LBs that are as big as OG are not going to be fast, Dakota.
I’m trying to figure out the big newsflash when a RB beats him to the sidelines?
Because you are faster than I am, doesn’t mean I don’t hustle.
January 9th, 2012 at 9:34 am
1197.qodrn1 Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 9:31 am
Do we know yet is the DC is a gonner?
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There have been several reports that Bresnehan and others will not be brought back when their contracts expire on January 15th.
Given the perormance of the defense this year it’s hard to doubt those reports.
January 9th, 2012 at 9:35 am
McClain does not take his profession seriously. Just take one look at his fat body and face to see that.
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Again,
Draft day comments from Cable were that we picked up a MLB who was as big as an offensive guard!!!!
Offensive guards are big boys!!!
Our MLB is big and slow. Where’s the newsflash?
January 9th, 2012 at 9:35 am
Morning/afternoon peoples!
January 9th, 2012 at 9:35 am
As long as Reggie doesn’t watch any game film I think Hue has a good chance of not being fired.
Go Reggie!
January 9th, 2012 at 9:36 am
So Dakota,
I guess what you are really trying to say is I was right, we should have drafted Jason Pierre Paul.
Would that be correct?
January 9th, 2012 at 9:37 am
DMac,
Like I told you after the first game of the season.
The dubs are terrible and will be in the hunt for the first pick of the draft.
January 9th, 2012 at 9:37 am
Miller, Ayers, and Elvis D are not better than Wimbley, Matt S, Seymour, and TK. Their scheme and coaching is much better.
Our problem is not takent. It’s coaching.
January 9th, 2012 at 9:39 am
Raider O Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 9:37 am
Miller, Ayers, and Elvis D are not better than Wimbley, Matt S, Seymour, and TK. Their scheme and coaching is much better.
Our problem is not takent. It’s coaching.
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Better than TK?
YES!!
January 9th, 2012 at 9:40 am
JPP is a beast now.
January 9th, 2012 at 9:41 am
1205.Raider O Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 9:37 am
Miller, Ayers, and Elvis D are not better than Wimbley, Matt S, Seymour, and TK. Their scheme and coaching is much better.
Our problem is not takent. It’s coaching.
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I agree. It’s not necessary to blow up the defense and start from scratch. Better coaching, an MLB with heart and another edge rusher could turn this thing around with the rest of the roster pretty much in tact.
January 9th, 2012 at 9:42 am
J Hill Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 9:37 am
DMac,
Like I told you after the first game of the season.
The dubs are terrible and will be in the hunt for the first pick of the draft.
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Maybe both Jackson’s should be fired.
I don’t know. Just saying.
At least w/ Nellie, we would lose , but the games were electric and entertaining. Now we lose + the games are boring as hell.
Still Dubs for life! We’ll get it together some day.
January 9th, 2012 at 9:42 am
Miller, Ayers, and Elvis D are not better than Wimbley, Matt S, Seymour, and TK. Their scheme and coaching is much better.
Our problem is not takent. It’s coaching.
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How bad was the Big Ben’s strip fumble at the end of the game! It was only a 3 man rush and the Steelers could not block them! Here I was routing for the lesser evil…
January 9th, 2012 at 9:42 am
DMAC,
Try to focus on the point. The level of talent both teams have, and the difference in coaching and scheme.
January 9th, 2012 at 9:43 am
J Hill Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 9:36 am
So Dakota,
I guess what you are really trying to say is I was right, we should have drafted Jason Pierre Paul.
Would that be correct?
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Wasn’t McClain a safwe can’t miss pick? The Raiders should always stay away from the can’t miss picks?
January 9th, 2012 at 9:44 am
Raider O Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 9:42 am
DMAC,
Try to focus on the point. The level of talent both teams have, and the difference in coaching and scheme.
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I totally understand. We’re a few players away and a new scheme to finally have a decent D.
As for TK, I’m through w/ him. Time to get rid of the underperforming, over payed players that decide when they want to play.
January 9th, 2012 at 9:45 am
3 yr deal for Crennel in K.C. per PFT
January 9th, 2012 at 9:46 am
Chris,
Exactly, but I have to disagree on Romac. He wasn’t that bad, and I’m willing to give him more time to develop and learn.
Just like we did with Hue, let’s consider the facts:
1- 2 HCs, and 2 DCs in his 1st 2 seasons in the nfl.
2- he played 3-4 at college.
3- he is 22.
January 9th, 2012 at 9:48 am
Buddy of mine tells me Hue is out. He is correct 90% of the time….couldn’t be happier.
January 9th, 2012 at 9:48 am
DMAC,
Nothing pissed me off this season more than TK and Seymour taking plays off.
These 2 shmucks get paid 20+ mil a season (combined), they can’t stuff the run, and they take plays off.
January 9th, 2012 at 9:49 am
What up B
January 9th, 2012 at 9:49 am
Method to My Madness Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 9:48 am
Buddy of mine tells me Hue is out. He is correct 90% of the time….couldn’t be happier.
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Who is this buddy, and where would he be getting his info from?
January 9th, 2012 at 9:50 am
DMAC…happy that Hue is out
January 9th, 2012 at 9:51 am
I got a guy who is close to a reporter…thats all Im saying
January 9th, 2012 at 9:51 am
Raider O Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 9:48 am
DMAC,
Nothing pissed me off this season more than TK and Seymour taking plays off.
These 2 shmucks get paid 20+ mil a season (combined), they can’t stuff the run, and they take plays off.
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These 2 dudes need to be traded for some picks. I’m done w/ the interior of our line. Time to come fresh w/ our DT’s. Moving Houston to the middle should help some.
January 9th, 2012 at 9:51 am
You can bank on it though….Hue is looking for a new job
January 9th, 2012 at 9:52 am
Method to My Madness Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 9:50 am
DMAC…happy that Hue is out
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Should the other Jackson be out 2, or is it 2 early? At least w/ Nellie the games were fun to watch. Now it’s just horrible.
January 9th, 2012 at 9:52 am
I couldn’t care less if Hue stays or gets fired.
January 9th, 2012 at 9:52 am
Im out
January 9th, 2012 at 9:53 am
1198.J Hill Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 9:32 am
The guy was slow last year too….what excuse are you going to make up for that?
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LBs that are as big as OG are not going to be fast, Dakota.
I’m trying to figure out the big newsflash when a RB beats him to the sidelines?
Because you are faster than I am, doesn’t mean I don’t hustle.
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Yeah, cuz he really hustle’s too….quits on plays right after the offensive player passes him by. What a hustler!
Watch your Hustler quit on this play after Fred Jackson gets bye him, and is then slowed up and McClain could have saved a TD run….what great Hustle!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AObIj4mkNOc
January 9th, 2012 at 9:54 am
Method to My Madness Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 9:48 am
Buddy of mine tells me Hue is out. He is correct 90% of the time….couldn’t be happier.
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Should be an interesting press conference. Or not. If Hue is in fact gone we probably won’t find that out tomorrow.
January 9th, 2012 at 9:54 am
Good Morning Nation!
What’s up B, DMAC?
January 9th, 2012 at 9:56 am
I would love to see Hue stay for another year, but In Reggie We Trust. Whichever way he goes is fine with (more or less) all of us.
January 9th, 2012 at 9:56 am
hwnrdr Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 9:54 am
Good Morning Nation!
What’s up B, DMAC?
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What up
January 9th, 2012 at 9:56 am
1198.J Hill Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 9:32 am
The guy was slow last year too….what excuse are you going to make up for that?
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LBs that are as big as OG are not going to be fast, Dakota.
I’m trying to figure out the big newsflash when a RB beats him to the sidelines?
Because you are faster than I am, doesn’t mean I don’t hustle.
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So I guess you are agreeing with me that McClain sucks and should be cut because he is too slow to play the position…..but it isn’t his fault he is built like a G lol.
January 9th, 2012 at 9:56 am
1187.Dakota Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 9:27 am
1167.J Hill Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 9:08 am
McClain made one mistake this year, and that of course was the gun incident.
The guy was HURT. Played with basically one leg all season and he’s getting called out for being slow????
No credit for sucking it up and playing hurt?
Did you see his replacement when he did sit out?
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The guy was slow last year too….what excuse are you going to make up for that? Oh, and I watched his last game in college…looked slow on the field then too. I have no idea what his 40 time at the combine was, but sometimes even if a guy is fast at the combine, put pads on him and place him in a game they can slow down.
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I think certain plays, and situations can occur that are of such importance that they can define a player and show you what you have. Can the QB make that pass when the chips are down? Can a defense sack up and hold a team from scoring a TD with the season on the line while they have them at their own half yd. line?
Can a 1st round MLB make a tackle on an immobile QB on a 4th down to save your season, or will he completely whiff on the play when a simple stop would’ve probably ended up winning the game and division for you?
That “whiff” on Stafford spoke volumes as to McClains ability and desire. It wasn’t coaching. It was mano e mano and McClain failed miserably and the body of work he presented during the season showed nothing to point to to say “well at least he did THIS or THAT.”
January 9th, 2012 at 9:56 am
All I wanted this season was to make the POs, and hire a good GM.
Thank God and Ron W for McKenzie.
January 9th, 2012 at 9:57 am
So who is right?
csnbayarea claims hue is friends with Reggie, they are on the same page and hue stays.
Jay Glazer and Charlie Casserly claim hue stays.
Mort the “Professional Liar” claims Hue will be replaced by Winston Moss.
If Hue goes, Winston Moss enters with zero HC experience into a lockerroom that has gone through numerous head coaching changes…not sure that will work out. If Hue goes, I’d rather see a proven guy with HC experience come in that will command the locker room with a pimp hand.
January 9th, 2012 at 9:57 am
The next time McClain sheds a block and makes a play will be his first time….
He is better in coverage than I thought he would be though….not good, just better than expected.
January 9th, 2012 at 9:57 am
DMAC, what’s wrong with the Warriors this season. I did hear that Jackson is implementing his style and for that, he is mis using the players…is that true?
January 9th, 2012 at 9:58 am
McPain will be Fine. Print that!!!!
I also said Frantz Joseph is the next Ray Lewis.
January 9th, 2012 at 9:59 am
hwnrdr Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 9:57 am
DMAC, what’s wrong with the Warriors this season. I did hear that Jackson is implementing his style and for that, he is mis using the players…is that true?
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Thats what it looks like. Its tough watching them this season.
January 9th, 2012 at 9:59 am
RoMac’s Mom needs to take away his playstation and tell him to focus on his career, not a virtual war he’s fighting in his free time…
January 9th, 2012 at 9:59 am
Boss01, interesting point! I also heard that Moss may come in under Jackson as the new DC…hard to say what to believe now!
January 9th, 2012 at 10:00 am
DMAC Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 9:59 am
hwnrdr Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 9:57 am
DMAC, what’s wrong with the Warriors this season. I did hear that Jackson is implementing his style and for that, he is mis using the players…is that true?
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Thats what it looks like. Its tough watching them this season.
So same like LA then…
January 9th, 2012 at 10:00 am
Wow! Tim Tebow beat the Pittsburgh Steelers???
January 9th, 2012 at 10:01 am
I just wonder (if the Jackson firing is true) if McKenzie thought that Al Saunders could perform the OC job and call plays at least as well as Hue did and McKenzie wanted someone a little more accountable to run the team as a whole.
As was stated when Saunders was hired, he was the OC and Hue would call the plays. Makes me wonder if McKenzie looked at that and the lack of accountability of the head coach for the defensive woes and team-wide mental errors and thought the Raiders could do better.
January 9th, 2012 at 10:01 am
boss01 Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 9:57 am
Jay Glazer and Charlie Casserly claim hue stays.
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Yesterday, Casserly said that Hue’s fate hadn’t been decided, pending McKenzie conducting a “top-to-bottom review” of the entire football organization.
Hope his first task is to show Herrera the door.
January 9th, 2012 at 10:01 am
Not that it really matters, but………
Raiders signed QB Rhett Bomar to a reserve/future contract.
The Raiders also inked DE Hall Davis and S Curtis Taylor to reserve/future pacts. A fifth-round pick of the Giants in 2009, Bomar has yet to take a regular-season snap. He was among the Vikings’ final cuts this season.
Source: Aaron Wilson on Twitter
January 9th, 2012 at 10:01 am
Wouldnt mind seeing Marty as our coach….that would be some weird sht
January 9th, 2012 at 10:02 am
Roll Tide! I will always hate LSU for whipping ND in that bowl game, which put Jamarcus Russell in the limelight, which resulted in my NFL team drafting him and wasting two years of my lfe….
January 9th, 2012 at 10:02 am
KoolKell Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 10:00 am
Wow! Tim Tebow beat the Pittsburgh Steelers???
ANd based on that, the entire D should be let go!!! LOL…dammit, one friggen stop! That would have been us in Oakland yesterday!
January 9th, 2012 at 10:02 am
1239.DMAC Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 9:59 am
hwnrdr Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 9:57 am
DMAC, what’s wrong with the Warriors this season. I did hear that Jackson is implementing his style and for that, he is mis using the players…is that true?
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Thats what it looks like. Its tough watching them this season.
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funny that Jackson has them playing defense and the offense has gone south…Curry’s ankle, Dorel going ‘milk carton’, team is kidding if they think they can get Dwight Howard…Mark might as well put on a uniform under his suit and jump in to spell Monta…
January 9th, 2012 at 10:02 am
DutchRaider77 Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 9:43 am
J Hill Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 9:36 am
So Dakota,
I guess what you are really trying to say is I was right, we should have drafted Jason Pierre Paul.
Would that be correct?
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Wasn’t McClain a safwe can’t miss pick? The Raiders should always stay away from the can’t miss picks?
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Yup. McClain, just like Gallery, was the safe, can’t miss prospect. The media in both cases praised the Raiders for finally getting it.
Meanwhile, Nnamdi and DHB were the “somebody wrestle the crack pipe out of Al Davis’ hands picks.”
Nnamdi has clearly developed into one of the elite CBs in the NFL. Anyone who says otherwise is kidding themself.
Didn’t like the DHB pick at all at the time myself, but the kid has grown on me and he put together a very nice season this year. Would have gone well over 1,000 yards if not for several big receptions I can remember being called back by penalties. And he’s got even more room for improvement. Not sure if the kid is capable of developing good ball skills, but if he is, I think what we saw this year is about 70% of his potential. He could be an Andre Johnson caliber receiver if he continues to improve his hands and other ball skills.
January 9th, 2012 at 10:02 am
Dakota Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 10:02 am
Roll Tide! I will always hate LSU for whipping ND in that bowl game, which put Jamarcus Russell in the limelight, which resulted in my NFL team drafting him and wasting two years of my lfe….
I agree!
January 9th, 2012 at 10:03 am
Tebow would have not played a down if he was black. Not trying to start a race issue
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LOL @ Raider O!
January 9th, 2012 at 10:03 am
Dakota,
Yeah, but he can still play a full season. Can you say that about DMC?
BTW, what do people do a The Corn Palace? I know it’s made of corn, so can you eat it?
January 9th, 2012 at 10:03 am
hwnrdr Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 10:02 am
KoolKell Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 10:00 am
Wow! Tim Tebow beat the Pittsburgh Steelers???
ANd based on that, the entire D should be let go!!! LOL…dammit, one friggen stop! That would have been us in Oakland yesterday!
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We dont have the defense that Denver does.
Cant say the outcome would have been the same.
January 9th, 2012 at 10:03 am
Whats up Rockstar?
January 9th, 2012 at 10:04 am
RR,
We all have opinions. You know what I mean.
January 9th, 2012 at 10:05 am
Sorry Deuce…that “could have” been us is what I mean to say! ANd with Big Ben hobbling around and Legursky playing hurt for an injured Pouncey, and Kielman out, etc…who knows, that could have been the outcome!
January 9th, 2012 at 10:05 am
So happy we have a very credible GM.
Things will change top to bottom and the penalties and run d AND problems that have gone on for over a decade will go away will real accountability for everyones jobs in the hands of a championship molded football mind of our new GM.
bye-bye Huff and your contract LoL
bye-bye physical trainer, WR coach, and many more.
I htink Bones will stay at special teams.
January 9th, 2012 at 10:06 am
The media laughed at us picking DHB over Crabtree.
Guess who had more receiving yards this year?
January 9th, 2012 at 10:06 am
1254.Raider O Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 10:03 am
Dakota,
Yeah, but he can still play a full season. Can you say that about DMC?
BTW, what do people do a The Corn Palace? I know it’s made of corn, so can you eat it?
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I’d rather have a supreme talent on the bench than a POS lazy loser on the field.
People wait until July 4th for the annual Corn Palace Pop, when all the corn erupts into popcorn and people can fill their baskets, sacks, hell, even their trucks full of popcorn to take home and enjoy!
January 9th, 2012 at 10:07 am
ESPN’s Chris Mortensen reports that new GM Reggie McKenzie is “contemplating” whether to retain Hue Jackson as Raiders head coach.
On SportsCenter Monday, ESPN’s Adam Schefter reported that the status of Jackson’s job is “uncertain.” McKenzie will be introduced as Oakland’s new GM on Tuesday and immediately begin the process of evaluating Jackson. Working in Jackson’s favor is the fact that he and McKenzie have the same agent, Kennard McGuire. McKenzie and Jackson are meeting face to face on Monday.
Source: ESPN.com
January 9th, 2012 at 10:07 am
don’t make excuses bruh…you sound like a democrat
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ROG = stud blogger. take notes, little ones
January 9th, 2012 at 10:08 am
Sandusky44 and Alberta were both talking back and forth until he outed himself and showed us all that they both are the same person this happened over the weekend…..most of us here got a huge laugh out of it and I thought it that the retard would not show his face in here for a while considering but here he is today. Here is the post where he outed himself:
Seymour Bush Says:
January 7th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 6:53 pm
Be careful Sully. Some will think you are me.
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MR confused over which handle he is posting as. Sad. So sad.
January 9th, 2012 at 10:08 am
1241.hwnrdr Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 9:59 am
Boss01, interesting point! I also heard that Moss may come in under Jackson as the new DC…hard to say what to believe now!
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That would be a better fit and anybody would be an upgrade over Chump B…but GB’s defense has sucked in recent years. This year they were dead last against the pass and even though Moss is the LB coach, not the DC, I’m not sure what credentials he actually has other than coaching some really good LB’s who don’t need much coaching in order to shine to begin with. Yes he was a Raider from 91-94, a mediocre one at best.
January 9th, 2012 at 10:08 am
Dakota,
I’m going to google it now. My wife think it’s great.
January 9th, 2012 at 10:08 am
Dakota Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 10:06 am
1254.Raider O Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 10:03 am
Dakota,
BTW, what do people do a The Corn Palace? I know it’s made of corn, so can you eat it?
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It is also a place where Jordanian born Al-Quada operatives are taken by the CIA for waterboarding….they use the water run off for the corn. The EPA and the President have approved of this.
January 9th, 2012 at 10:10 am
If the fact they share the same agent has ANY influence on reggie retaining Hue or not,
Reggie is not the right guy for the job…
I reallydoubt that would have anything to do with it.
Your agent works for you, you don’t work for him,
just like the HC to a GM…
January 9th, 2012 at 10:10 am
Then if that is true…who will be HC? DC? Water boy?
January 9th, 2012 at 10:11 am
hwnrdr Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 10:10 am
Then if that is true…who will be HC? DC? Water boy?
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Where do I sign for the water boy/man position?
January 9th, 2012 at 10:11 am
January 9th, 2012 at 10:08 am
Dakota Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 10:06 am
1254.Raider O Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 10:03 am
Dakota,
BTW, what do people do a The Corn Palace? I know it’s made of corn, so can you eat it?
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Besides the popcorn eruption and the waterboarding it is also an event center where they have localHS basketball games, concerts etc, and they have a small museum.
January 9th, 2012 at 10:11 am
Dakota,
Is that true about The Corn Belt Exposition?
January 9th, 2012 at 10:12 am
1268.VanHeathen Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 10:10 am
If the fact they share the same agent has ANY influence on reggie retaining Hue or not,
Reggie is not the right guy for the job…
I reallydoubt that would have anything to do with it.
Your agent works for you, you don’t work for him,
just like the HC to a GM…
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That’s just Mort being Mort. All he and Schefter talk about is money and agents and contracts. The game itself is completely lost on the both of them.
January 9th, 2012 at 10:12 am
Dakota Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 10:11 am
January 9th, 2012 at 10:08 am
Dakota Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 10:06 am
1254.Raider O Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 10:03 am
Dakota,
BTW, what do people do a The Corn Palace? I know it’s made of corn, so can you eat it?
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Besides the popcorn eruption and the waterboarding it is also an event center where they have localHS basketball games, concerts etc, and they have a small museum.
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Sounds like a great place to live………..
NOT!
January 9th, 2012 at 10:13 am
DMAC Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 10:11 am
hwnrdr Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 10:10 am
Then if that is true…who will be HC? DC? Water boy?
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Where do I sign for the water boy/man position?
I know, right?
January 9th, 2012 at 10:13 am
Yes Alberta we know that you and Sandusky44 are the same person and you lead such a pathetic empty life that you need to create imaginary online friends to give your self affirmation on a BLOG!
LMFAO at the level to which you have stooped.
January 9th, 2012 at 10:13 am
DMAC Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 10:07 am
ESPN’s Chris Mortensen reports that new GM Reggie McKenzie is “contemplating” whether to retain Hue Jackson as Raiders head coach.
On SportsCenter Monday, ESPN’s Adam Schefter reported that the status of Jackson’s job is “uncertain.” McKenzie will be introduced as Oakland’s new GM on Tuesday and immediately begin the process of evaluating Jackson. Working in Jackson’s favor is the fact that he and McKenzie have the same agent, Kennard McGuire. McKenzie and Jackson are meeting face to face on Monday.
Source: ESPN.com
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AKA, the media has absolutely no idea what the Raiders will do. They just issue reports using vaugueries, fancy language, questionable unnamed sources, etc. to pretend like they have intimate knowledge of what’s going to happen right now.
Really hope McKenzie makes the right call on this one — which of course is keeping Hue.
My expectation for 2012 with Hue and a bigtime DC is 12-4. So if Reggie goes elsewhere with his head coaching pick he better make it a good one, because expectations are high and if we fail to be an elite team he has no one to blame but himself. And all the fans in here so desperate to welcome him in and hand him the keys will turn on him in an instant if he botches this one.
January 9th, 2012 at 10:14 am
Dakota,
Thank god I was born in Riyadh.
January 9th, 2012 at 10:15 am
Hue ‘bumping his gums’ after the SD game, was my final straw…
If he would have kept with the ‘it’s on me” line, i’d still respect him…
But once he said,”i’m gonna tell you how i really feel”, and everything after that, I have ZERO repsect for him…
Leaders don’t sidestep what happens under their watch, they man up, take the heat, and go forward trying to correct it…
January 9th, 2012 at 10:17 am
Im starting to think that MR and Alberta are different jcats….same mentality…but different jcats
January 9th, 2012 at 10:18 am
Dakota,
Are you thinking what I’m thinking?
(The Sand Castle)
You can park your camel outside, enjoy a show about Making bombs, and go to the all you can eat hummus buffet.
January 9th, 2012 at 10:19 am
Seymour Bush Says:
January 7th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
January 6th, 2012 at 6:53 pm
Be careful Sully. Some will think you are me.
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MR confused over which handle he is posting as. Sad. So sad.
B@uce this happened Saturday it was MR and Alberta talking to each other
January 9th, 2012 at 10:20 am
Have to think that Reggie has known for months that he was the front runner for the GM gig…
So our game in GB was a perfect opportunity for him to get an up close look at this team, we all know what kind of debacle that game turned out to be…
Can’t bode well for ANYONE to have laid such an egg in front of the new boss…
January 9th, 2012 at 10:20 am
This cat who hooks me up with bzzies all the time…always reliable….says Hue is out…guy knows his sht too
January 9th, 2012 at 10:21 am
Raider O said,
“BTW,…Tebow would have not played a down if he was black. Not trying to start a race issue, but that’s a fact.”
I disagree:
1) Were it not for John McDaniels, Tebow would never have been drafted in the first round, or don’t you recall? Everyone was avoiding him.
2) He only was allowed to get into games when other Denver QBs failed.
3) The calls for Tebow in Denver fandom grew louder and louder as their early season failures looked worse and worse and as the touted Kyle Orton grew more and more ineffective. You know, like we did with #2? (can’t bear to say his name)
4) Brady Quinn, if given another shot with another team, might be like another Alex Smith, but Alex Smith is now coached by a superior coach in Jim Harbaugh on a team that has a superior defense. My point? Brady Quinn has never shown any spark that would have led Elway or others in the Bronco org. to believe that he could produce wins. Plus, he’s been injury prone.
Denver fans are like Raider fans: they have a rich history and don’t like losing. However, when they sense they don’t have all the parts to produce a Super Bowl contender, they at least want an entertaining effort. That’s why so many of us here were pulling for Gradkowski. We knew he wouldn’t lead us to the promised land, but at least he’d go down trying, at least he had the ability to fire up his offense…and that is what the Denver fans knew/know about Tebow.
Those claiming or those insinuating that were he black they’d not be calling for him are just plain blind to the reality of NFL football and their fans: we don’t give a damn about the color of the guy as long as he produces wins. If wins aren’t possible, then we want to go down fighting.
BTW, are you suggesting that even black coaches like Tomlin or Hue or Denny Green or Romeo Crenell or whoever wouldn’t have played Tebow “if he was black”?
January 9th, 2012 at 10:21 am
666…someone has been trolling Alberta…I can tell
January 9th, 2012 at 10:23 am
Whatever happened to the keep Hue/dump Hue list that was running last week? No would be a good time to trot that out. Or we can start a new one:
KEEP HUE AS OUR HEAD COACH:
1. Chris in NY
2. Bob Marley
WOULD HAVE NO PROBLEM IF REGGIE DECIDES TO CAN HUE:
1. Raider O
2. Method to My Madness
January 9th, 2012 at 10:25 am
Keep Hue.
January 9th, 2012 at 10:25 am
Watching Blackstock try and play MLB was almost comical. Of course, he is a Bresnehan guy from the UFL so we pretty much got what we paid for.
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Hue Jackson had the authority to make roster moves on offense & defense, right?
We know LB’s weren’t off limits. Chopped Bruce Davis, benched Quentin Groves, traded for Aaron Curry. Placed Ricky Brown on I.R. with a sore pinky toe
So why not upgrade Blackstock ??? This guy wasn’t even good enough to crack an NFL roster as backup LB or special teamer last year. Hue Jax should have to answer for that one if you dudes have a problem with ROMAC playing hurt due to no depth!
January 9th, 2012 at 10:25 am
The whole “you’re making excuses” angle is ridiculous.
I could easily say blaming Hue Jackson is just an excuse for the defense.
January 9th, 2012 at 10:25 am
Chris in NY Says:
Whatever happened to the keep Hue/dump Hue list that was running last week? No would be a good time to trot that out. Or we can start a new one:
KEEP HUE AS OUR HEAD COACH:
1. Chris in NY
2. Bob Marley
WOULD HAVE NO PROBLEM IF REGGIE DECIDES TO CAN HUE:
1. Raider O
2. Method to My Madness
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a FIRE HUE option is missing.
January 9th, 2012 at 10:26 am
No problem if he can’s Hue…
January 9th, 2012 at 10:26 am
The defense was terrible!
Stop using Carson Palmer as an excuse!
January 9th, 2012 at 10:28 am
1285,
I wasn’t taking about the Fans’ love for Tebow. I can understand, and I do.
I was talking about the Coaching staff & GM.
Even HC J Fox said that you can’t keep playing like this style of offense in the NFL, and expect to win games. That’s their HC.
Tebow cant make most throws, and he misses wide open WRs all the time. So he makes a few good passes here and there, so did Jubustus.
I stand by my statement.
January 9th, 2012 at 10:28 am
Sorry.
a FIRE HUE REGARDLESS option is missing.
Lots of people should make that list from what we’ve been hearing here all week.
January 9th, 2012 at 10:28 am
pep of tampa Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 8:49 am
so did smith (falcons coach) have hue on speed dial? couldn’t help but think of hue when he went for it on 4th and didn’t care for taking the 3 points 2x.
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Na, he didn’t have Hue on speed dial for this game. I could see where you would mistake that when they went for it on 4th and failed, and then ran the exact same play on 4th again and failed again.
January 9th, 2012 at 10:29 am
So why not upgrade Blackstock ???
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With who?
LB depth should have been addressed coming outta camp when Goethel went down.
Not a lot of quality MLBs sitting unemployed when Hue became GM.
January 9th, 2012 at 10:31 am
Buddy of mine tells me Hue is out. He is correct 90% of the time
Wouldnt mind seeing Marty as our coach….that would be some weird sht
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ROG,
We see eye-to-eye on most things #Raiders
January 9th, 2012 at 10:31 am
J,
Palmer the Bomber needs to play better (less INTs), but I think he can fix that, and he will play better next season.
January 9th, 2012 at 10:32 am
Raiders signed QB Rhett Bomar to a reserve/future contract.
The Raiders also inked DE Hall Davis and S Curtis Taylor to reserve/future pacts. A fifth-round pick of the Giants in 2009, Bomar has yet to take a regular-season snap. He was among the Vikings’ final cuts this season.
Source: Aaron Wilson on Twitter
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Well, the Kyle Boller era has officially ended in Oakland!
#1 Palmer
#2 Pryor
#3 Bomar ???
January 9th, 2012 at 10:33 am
I would love to see a HC that has a proven record and not a “rookie” but in Reggie I trust!
January 9th, 2012 at 10:33 am
So why not upgrade Blackstock ??? This guy wasn’t even good enough to crack an NFL roster as backup LB or special teamer last year. Hue Jax should have to answer for that one if you dudes have a problem with ROMAC playing hurt due to no depth!
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I believe he tried, by the time he had the ability to make the roster moves there were ZERO available MLBs that could be considered a tangible upgrade over a guy who had been there since day one and knew the ’system’
At this point I almost hope Hue does get let go… I am so fvckin sick of this stupid convo being stuck on repeat. If the guy gets retained I have to listen to this crap for another year (unless Hue goes 16-0 & wins the superbowl of course… expected of ANY Hc)
January 9th, 2012 at 10:33 am
“666…someone has been trolling Alberta…I can tell”
A troll that is trolling a trolls moniker very interesting….Yes I think I know what you are saying…
January 9th, 2012 at 10:34 am
Martyball in Oakland? Stranger things have happened.
With Al gone, we’ll see a lot of coaches much more willing to come here. I’m not saying that I like Al dying (because I didn’t — I would far rather he’d just retired), but facts are facts: he drove away a lot of people.
January 9th, 2012 at 10:34 am
Bomar will be practice squad/training camp body. No real chance of cracking the final roster.
January 9th, 2012 at 10:34 am
That would have been us in Oakland yesterday!
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Hwnrdr,
the Raiders (under Hue Jackson) didn’t give the home crowd much to cheer about, even though we sold out EVERY game!
the fans deserve better imo – doubt the team would have showed up motivated or prepared
January 9th, 2012 at 10:35 am
I heard Schotty is interviewing for Miami’s vacancy. Hey if we hired him we would be guaranteed getting to the playoffs and not ever winning a game.
January 9th, 2012 at 10:35 am
We don’t need a list.
We have Reggie.
In Reggie we trust.
January 9th, 2012 at 10:36 am
So why not upgrade Blackstock ???
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With who?
LB depth should have been addressed coming outta camp when Goethel went down.
Not a lot of quality MLBs sitting unemployed when Hue became GM.
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Really, you do not think the Rickey “made of Glass” Brown was not a quality re-signing?
January 9th, 2012 at 10:39 am
I love that the Tebow billboard was put up by three
Muslims! Let me guess they were just tools for the white establishment…
January 9th, 2012 at 10:39 am
You know how that Pittsburgh game would have gone if it were the Raiders.
Raiders show up too confident, unfocused, thinking they’ll have a field day with a bad o-line and stationary Roethelistberger, no Mendenhall.
Big Ben passes for 300 yards and 3 TDs, two deep ones to Mike Wallace.
Isaac Redman runs for 150 yards and two scores.
With Michael Bush being the only healthy back (DMac being a scratch because he’s “not quite 100%), the Steelers’ pass rush tees off on Palmer. Woodley ends the day with three sacks after abusing Barnes, Harrison gets one from the blindside that leads to a fumble.
Tell me we haven’t seen this play out before.
January 9th, 2012 at 10:41 am
What about Dan Conner from Carolina to push Romac next season? (don’t have to pay him much either)
January 9th, 2012 at 10:43 am
J Hill Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 10:29 am
So why not upgrade Blackstock ???
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With who?
LB depth should have been addressed coming outta camp when Goethel went down.
Not a lot of quality MLBs sitting unemployed when Hue became GM.
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Look at Larry Grant. He came in and subbed for Patrick Willis and played EXTREMELY well for them. This guy was out there with no takers. He failed on the outside but seems to play very well inside. ILB’s are not that hard to find.
January 9th, 2012 at 10:43 am
I like Dan Connor a lot. Also filled in nicely for Thomas Davis (WLB) two seasons ago.
January 9th, 2012 at 10:44 am
ILB’s are not that hard to find.
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MLBs, on the other hand….
January 9th, 2012 at 10:44 am
YoungAmerican Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 10:43 am
I like Dan Connor a lot. Also filled in nicely for Thomas Davis (WLB) two seasons ago.
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Kind of a low profile guy and will be a FA. Should take a look at him, IMO.
January 9th, 2012 at 10:45 am
# J Hill Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 8:01 pm
Curry, Wimbley, and McClain will be starting LBs for us next year regardless of what system we run.
Is anyone really doubting that?
^^^^^^^^
If we stick to a 4-3, and get a REAL 4-3 modern scheme with a REAL DC, then I expect they move Wimbley down as the RDE and let him do what he does best, rush the passer and cause disruption in the backfield.
Then McKenzie needs to add a vet FA SAM LB who really can play the position and is a REAL SAM who plays well versus the run and can cover.
That’s IF they stick to a 4-3 base scheme.
January 9th, 2012 at 10:45 am
I like any warm body with a heartbeat over Blackstock.
January 9th, 2012 at 10:46 am
Did any of you anti god left wing libtards slice your wrist because of Tebow?
I hope so…
January 9th, 2012 at 10:46 am
YoungAmerican Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 10:39 am
You know how that Pittsburgh game would have gone if it were the Raiders.
Raiders show up too confident, unfocused, thinking they’ll have a field day with a bad o-line and stationary Roethelistberger, no Mendenhall.
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Good point. Teams are a refection of their head coach. Brash, overconfident, loud mouthed, unfocused, disorganized, slow, am I missing anything else here??
January 9th, 2012 at 10:47 am
KEEP HUE AS OUR HEAD COACH:
1. Chris in NY
2. Bob Marley
WOULD HAVE NO PROBLEM IF REGGIE DECIDES TO CAN HUE:
1. Raider O
2. Method to My Madness
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Chris,
Please add me to list #2
January 9th, 2012 at 10:48 am
Keep Hue.
Fix the defense.
Learn about football people.
January 9th, 2012 at 10:49 am
Good point. Teams are a reflection of their head coach. Brash, overconfident, loud mouthed, unfocused, disorganized, slow, am I missing anything else here??
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Unwilling to be held accountable comes to mind.
January 9th, 2012 at 10:49 am
# ArmChair GM Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
But enough about that now….
It’s Mckenzie’s job to lead us to the promised land and I trust his judgement.
This is what time it is…
Looks like our mayor Jean Quan is actually not as dumb as she looks. This is her new plan to get a stadium built for not only the Raiders, but the Warriors and A’s too.
Remember the old Bruce Lee movie….Dare I say, she is using her “Chinese Connection.”
http://www.marinij.com/ci_19698160
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Heard about that. That’s smart move by her though. That’s the only way “Coliseum City” can become a reality!
I love the Coliseum City concept and designs, but it is waaaaay ambitious and this should have been worked on years ago.
Hope it can happen to keep all the teams in Oakland, but it’s a long shot.
January 9th, 2012 at 10:49 am
With who?
LB depth should have been addressed coming outta camp when Goethel went down.
Not a lot of quality MLBs sitting unemployed when Hue became GM.
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Jhill,
I’ll take Dhani Jones. Shoot, I’m willing to bet Sam WIlliams or Bruce Davis could have done a better job than Blackstock. Why was Ricky Brown placed on I.R. so quickly? He was way better than D-Blacky
January 9th, 2012 at 10:50 am
well look here good old Brownstains is now a Bronco fan praising Teblow like he is a born Denver fan.
You make me sick you uneducated pathetic loser come in here worshiping a Bronco QB get out of here you low life degenerate!
January 9th, 2012 at 10:51 am
Peymour666Glen, the only thing your missing is the left side of your brain. Carry on…
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Seymour Bush Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 10:46 am
am I missing anything else here??
January 9th, 2012 at 10:52 am
Seymour Bush Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 10:46 am
YoungAmerican Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 10:39 am
You know how that Pittsburgh game would have gone if it were the Raiders.
Raiders show up too confident, unfocused, thinking they’ll have a field day with a bad o-line and stationary Roethelistberger, no Mendenhall.
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Good point. Teams are a refection of their head coach. Brash, overconfident, loud mouthed, unfocused, disorganized, slow, am I missing anything else here??
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Overconfidence and lack of focus have been problems in Oakland for YEARS, no matter who the coach was.
It’s the product of having players who are paid like stars regardless of their production, and are never held accountable. There are far too many players on the roster who are used to being protected by the owner.
As it was when Al Davis was around, it seems like even now the coach gets the blame when he can’t take a roster of underachievers and malcontents and make them play like a team.
January 9th, 2012 at 10:52 am
1281.Raider O Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 10:18 am
Dakota,
Are you thinking what I’m thinking?
(The Sand Castle)
You can park your camel outside, enjoy a show about Making bombs, and go to the all you can eat hummus buffet.
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Sounds like a good business venture….not too many camels in South Dakota though….might have to look elsewhere for the location….
January 9th, 2012 at 10:52 am
Chris in NY Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 10:23 am
Whatever happened to the keep Hue/dump Hue list that was running last week? No would be a good time to trot that out. Or we can start a new one:
KEEP HUE AS OUR HEAD COACH:
1. Chris in NY
2. Bob Marley
WOULD HAVE NO PROBLEM IF REGGIE DECIDES TO CAN HUE:
1. Raider O
2. Method to My Madness
3. R8dercain
January 9th, 2012 at 10:53 am
daraider09 Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 10:48 am
Keep Hue.
Fix the defense.
Learn about football people.
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Some of the posters here absolve Jackson of knowing anything about defense, defensive football or responsibility for any defensive adjustments during a game or during the season. So when you are saying “learn about football, people” you are talking about Jackson right?
January 9th, 2012 at 10:54 am
I heard Schotty is interviewing for Miami’s vacancy. Hey if we hired him we would be guaranteed getting to the playoffs and not ever winning a game
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BCZ,
LOL! good point
do you think Marty’s team would have finished 1-4 during the regular season though ???
Do you think they would have been the most penalized team EVER ???
January 9th, 2012 at 10:54 am
I think McKenzie probably already had a plan of what he wanted to do with the Raiders, after seeing the Raiders get destroyed in GB earlier in the year.
He probably already knew he was going to get interviewed after the season and was fully prepared for that official interview with Davis and Madden.
Now he will evaluate how he wants reorganize things in the front office and personnel departments.
January 9th, 2012 at 10:55 am
1278.Raider O Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 10:14 am
Dakota,
Thank god I was born in Riyadh.
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Oh good, but I would not recommend visiting Mt. Rushmore then…..they take the Saudi-borns to a cave behind monument for “intake”.
January 9th, 2012 at 10:56 am
Keep Hue? Fire Hue?
Listen guys, THIS is why the Raiders hired a GM. To make these decisions. Let HIM decide if he’s on the same page with Hue or not. That’s what a GM does.
It’s not like Al is here anymore. We don’t know what McKenzie’s vision for the team is, nor do we know how Hue fits into that.
The point of getting a GM is to let him make the appropriate decisions on the staff.
January 9th, 2012 at 10:57 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 10:50 am
well look here good old Brownstains is now a Bronco fan praising Teblow like he is a born Denver fan.
You make me sick you uneducated pathetic loser come in here worshiping a Bronco QB get out of here you low life degenerate!
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He probably thinks Sheblows plays for the Raiders. Once the Cleveland Browns go out, he kind of loses focus. The operative word is loses. Everything Jamista supports falls apart as soon as he jumps on the bandwagon. It’s kind of creepy really.
January 9th, 2012 at 10:57 am
I’ll take Dhani Jones. Shoot, I’m willing to bet Sam WIlliams or Bruce Davis could have done a better job than Blackstock. Why was Ricky Brown placed on I.R. so quickly? He was way better than D-Blacky
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Hue the GM has been fired.
What’s the problem?
January 9th, 2012 at 10:57 am
Art Shell for HC.
Al Saunders as OC / play caller (no Tom Walsh or John Shoop)
Bob Wylie as O-Line Coach (no Jackie Slater or Irv Eatman)
Any takers ???
January 9th, 2012 at 10:58 am
I didn’t utter a single word of praise for Tebow. Funny how you can’t read and yet you call me an uneducated loser.
HaHa
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Silverandblack666 Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 10:50 am
well look here good old Brownstains is now a Bronco fan praising Teblow like he is a born Denver fan.
You make me sick you uneducated pathetic loser come in here worshiping a Bronco QB get out of here you low life degenerate!
January 9th, 2012 at 10:59 am
Dakota,
Don’t forget to tell Raider O about Wall Drugs. Probably a sign giving distance westbound after the Corn Palace. lol
January 9th, 2012 at 11:00 am
Do you think they would have been the most penalized team EVER ???
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What is the next guy going to do to get the penalties down?
Yell a little louder?
January 9th, 2012 at 11:01 am
Funny.
nobody was saying how Al’s death was a distraction that caused this team to go into a tailspin during the first seven games after his passing (Raiders went 5-2)
I guess somewhere between 11/27 after we beat Chicago and 12/04 when we lost to Miami the coaches and players decided it was time to grieve ???
January 9th, 2012 at 11:02 am
Bob Marley Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 8:01 am
What’s scary about Denver is that they are doing it with average talent at RB, Willis is in his last legs and a fumbler while Lance Ball is a 3rd stringer and Moreno can’t stay healthy and is nothing special when he is.
They don’t have a decent pass-catching TE either.
Throw in a quality Tailback and an athletic TE who can catch and they will be much better.
Of course, it all depends on Tebow and his growth as a passer, his current style of play will likely lead to disaster, as in a torn ACL or concussion issues.
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Granted T-bow and the WRs’ and the defense played well enough to win, but what I thought won the game was:
THE GAME PLAN BY FOX
Fox came right at the Steeler D strengths and the D played well enough to stop Pitt.
Hue, hope you were taking notes buddy. We do play them twice a year. Get your game plan face on now.
GAME PLAN, GAME PLAN
January 9th, 2012 at 11:02 am
1340.exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 10:59 am
Dakota,
Don’t forget to tell Raider O about Wall Drugs. Probably a sign giving distance westbound after the Corn Palace. lol
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Wall Drug…..that is where to Osama Bin Laden for interrogation after they faked his death. I saw it on an advertising billboard somewhere in Iowa….it said “Wall Drug-Free Ice Water-and it is the secret location where the government took Osama Bin Laden after they faked his death.”
I swear.
January 9th, 2012 at 11:02 am
Raider O can probably ride his Moto Guzzi to the Rally in Sturgis.
January 9th, 2012 at 11:03 am
I’m afraid it has gone way past the point of just being “tebow hype”. He is now a playoff winner beating the number one defense with his arm & legs. He sent the defending afc champs packing. This was painful to watch considering that we were a better team than Denver until we lost our qb.
So much for the idiots that tried to sell the idea that hue would be fired. Some folks have no clue about the way football works.
Pryor will only succeed if the raiders change the offense. I do think hue jack & suanders are aware of this and creative enough to make it interesting. Look at hue jacks early obsession with the wild cat , the reverses, we have seen a pistol formation and of course pryors first play where he motioned under center from out wide.
I’m positive in pre season when Pryor comes in you will not see the same raider offense that jc ran, nor will you the version of the offense that Palmer runs.
If it is very exciting & Palmer struggles we could be looking at a qb contraversy by mid season.
January 9th, 2012 at 11:04 am
What is the next guy going to do to get the penalties down?
Yell a little louder?
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Get some tips from Callahan, Turner, Shell, Kiffin or Cable?
January 9th, 2012 at 11:04 am
As much as I hated Marty. I think the dude knows a little something about coaching. Don’t see him coming, even w/ Al Davis no longer around.
January 9th, 2012 at 11:06 am
Smee,
Hue Jackson had plenty of time to gameplan for Tebow last time we faced Denver and he did a faceplant.
January 9th, 2012 at 11:07 am
In Reggie I will trust, until proven otherwise! If Hue stays, then be it! If Hue gets canned, then be it too! I think Hue did get power hungry, yes! But strip his GM duties, and play calling…he may be ok…if that is what Reggie sees!
January 9th, 2012 at 11:08 am
Raider O said, “I wasn’t taking about the Fans’ love for Tebow. I can understand, and I do.
I was talking about the Coaching staff & GM.
Even HC J Fox said that you can’t keep playing like this style of offense in the NFL, and expect to win games. That’s their HC.”
You know what really happened. As the fan cries of disgust with the inept Denver offense, led by Orton, grew and grew, with cries of “We can’t do any worse than losing, ” both Fox and Elway felt pressured. They fully expected Tebow to lose…and he didn’t.
And the way he won, by looking horrible, yet pulling out last minute and last second wins, was ENTERTAINING. I repeat: when fans believe a team is going to lose, they at least want an entertaining loss. Instead, they got entertaining wins.
You have conveniently left out that Fox and Elway were left with no choice but to continue to play him (just as they were left with no choice but to play him over Orton) when 1) he kept winning and 2) they had no one better behind him–Quinn has never been a winner in the NFL.
The consensus is that they wanted Tebow not only to suck, but suck enough to lose, but that didn’t happen and now they were stuck, and their being stuck never had and still doesn’t anything to do with his being non-black.
Now, they have an even larger conundrum. They HAVE to stick with him, even if they feel he will never lead them all the way.
OT, I saw, for the first time yesterday, Tebow actually throw passes to spots, not to receivers, and those passes were caught. Coming out of college, he didn’t do that as has been detailed on the NFL network and on ESPN with video after video of his perfomances in college and with Denver.
If the guy’s work ethic continues, and if he continues to gain confidence, (and I’ve every reason to expect both to occur), there is at least a chance that he will develop into something we didn’t expect. I wouldn’t bet money on it, but stranger things have happened.
Arguing against myself on that point, however, I will also point out that the Pitt pass rush was, either by design or not, simply horrible yesterday, and if it had been even mediocre, Tebow wouldn’t have been able to throw to those spots and complete those passes.
January 9th, 2012 at 11:08 am
1342.RaiderRockstar Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 11:01 am
Funny.
nobody was saying how Al’s death was a distraction that caused this team to go into a tailspin during the first seven games after his passing (Raiders went 5-2)
I guess somewhere between 11/27 after we beat Chicago and 12/04 when we lost to Miami the coaches and players decided it was time to grieve ???
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Hey, the seven stages of grief take some time.
SHOCK & DENIAL (first 2 games)
PAIN & GUILT (following 3 games)
ANGER & BARGAINING (following 2 games)
DEPRESSION”, REFLECTION, LONELINESS (last 5 games)
THE UPWARD TURN-(Sorry no playoffs)
RECONSTRUCTION & WORKING THROUGH- (Reggie already there baby!)
ACCEPTANCE & HOPE-(Offseason with competent GM)
January 9th, 2012 at 11:08 am
My balls just flat out knot up when I think about our D. Easily shoulda been 11-5 and 13-3 was not out of the realm of possibilities. But the hard reality is we are 8-8. Sucks ass.
My balls are in a knot and I approve this message.
January 9th, 2012 at 11:09 am
Keep Hue
New DC & defensive staff
Re-evaluate defensive configuration (3-4 vs. 4-3)
Re-evaluate personnel
Renegotiate key player contracts
Target key FA’s to be added for 2012
Make trades for draft picks if makes sense
Evaluate 2012/2013 draft prospects
Win Division – 2012
Win Superbowl – 2013, 2014
January 9th, 2012 at 11:11 am
Tim Teblow got a $250k bonus for winning yesterday’s game…..praise Jesus!
January 9th, 2012 at 11:12 am
The future looks bright already. just by the fact of the GM hire.
We can all sleep comfortably at nite.
January 9th, 2012 at 11:15 am
Enough to make the MR’s, KK’s, and Peymour’s of the world slice their wrist!
One can only hope…
hope & change
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Dakota Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 11:11 am
Tim Teblow got a $250k bonus for winning yesterday’s game…..praise Jesus!
January 9th, 2012 at 11:15 am
OK. Ya’ll need to get off Tebow’s nuts foreals. If he was on another team, I would probably root for the kid, but he’s not. He’s a FK’n Donkey. FK him and the Donks!
January 9th, 2012 at 11:16 am
Pittsburgh got racked as both NT Casey Hampton and T Max Starks got ACL injuries.
January 9th, 2012 at 11:18 am
DMAC Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 11:15 am
OK. Ya’ll need to get off Tebow’s nuts foreals. If he was on another team, I would probably root for the kid, but he’s not. He’s a FK’n Donkey. FK him and the Donks!
I agree, and even my friend, who is a Donkey fan agreed that he is not divine! I just wish that would FN stop!
Exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 11:16 am
Pittsburgh got racked as both NT Casey Hampton and T Max Starks got ACL injuries.
And that, coupled with they got burn by that same pass play all day is also what did them in!
January 9th, 2012 at 11:19 am
OK. Ya’ll need to get off Tebow’s nuts foreals. If he was on another team, I would probably root for the kid, but he’s not. He’s a FK’n Donkey. FK him and the Donks
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POST OF THE YEAR!
January 9th, 2012 at 11:20 am
Hue Tomlin should get fired for losing to Den.
January 9th, 2012 at 11:20 am
KEEP HUE AS OUR HEAD COACH:
1. Chris in NY
2. Bob Marley
3. Raider Duck
4. Daraider09
5. JB
WOULD HAVE NO PROBLEM IF REGGIE DECIDES TO CAN HUE:
1. Raider O
2. Method to My Madness
3. VanHeathen
4. Raiderbuck
5. RaiderRockstar
6. Dr. Hunter S. Thompson
7. R8dercain
8. Young American
9. Hwnrdr
January 9th, 2012 at 11:21 am
dont get your hopes up bout a new HC/DC et al.
status quo will remain
been tellin ya that for months now
new GM will not want to trash can Mr Davis’ (RIP) last hires. at least not for one more season
new GM would get to much heat for bucking the legacy of the former owner
just aint gonna happen
Hue and Chucky B will be better under the wise guidance of the new GM, so we can expect better results
only thing my inside info tells me is romac may be on the hot seat for the boner in alabama. only change comin, cept for the usual pre-season competition
boeller prolly gonna go
hererra gonna stay
January 9th, 2012 at 11:21 am
DutchRaider77 Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 11:19 am
OK. Ya’ll need to get off Tebow’s nuts foreals. If he was on another team, I would probably root for the kid, but he’s not. He’s a FK’n Donkey. FK him and the Donks
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POST OF THE YEAR!
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Than you sir. I thought I was the only one who noticed that Tebow plays for the Donks.
January 9th, 2012 at 11:21 am
KEEP HUE AS OUR HEAD COACH:
1. Chris in NY
2. Bob Marley
3. Raider Duck
4. Daraider09
5. JB
WOULD HAVE NO PROBLEM IF REGGIE DECIDES TO CAN HUE:
1. Raider O
2. Method to My Madness
3. VanHeathen
4. Raiderbuck
5. RaiderRockstar
6. Dr. Hunter S. Thompson
7. R8dercain
8. Young American
9. Hwnrdr
10. MistaBrown
January 9th, 2012 at 11:22 am
Keep Hue
January 9th, 2012 at 11:22 am
Chris,
I say let the GM do his job.
list 2 please
January 9th, 2012 at 11:22 am
KEEP HUE AS OUR HEAD COACH:
1. Chris in NY
2. Bob Marley
3. Raider Duck
4. Daraider09
5. JB
6. Exlaraiderseasonticketholder
WOULD HAVE NO PROBLEM IF REGGIE DECIDES TO CAN HUE:
1. Raider O
2. Method to My Madness
3. VanHeathen
4. Raiderbuck
5. RaiderRockstar
6. Dr. Hunter S. Thompson
7. R8dercain
8. Young American
9. Hwnrdr
10. MistaBrown
January 9th, 2012 at 11:23 am
Poor old Mystic1 still praying for Palmer to lose his job.
It seems like everyone wants someone to pay or to be cut or lose their job.
Fire HUE
Fire Chucky B
Cut Palmer blah blah blah
Teblow lost 3 in a row heading into the playoffs and get lucky to play 1/2 the Steelers team, because that’s what he faced 1/2 of the team.
January 9th, 2012 at 11:24 am
no problem letting hue go
January 9th, 2012 at 11:24 am
Dmac… Right on… We’ve got a few Raider( supppsedly) fans that are glued to Tebows Sack…. Fk Tebow… And Fk the Donkeys
January 9th, 2012 at 11:25 am
Was just looking at the draft order.
Jason Campbell may be back. Where else does he have a chance to start?
January 9th, 2012 at 11:25 am
BCZ,
LOL! good point
do you think Marty’s team would have finished 1-4 during the regular season though ???
Do you think they would have been the most penalized team EVER ???
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Dont know, Shottys chiefs DID hold the previous record, and they dont even get the benefit of the additional 20% of penalties just for wearing the Silver and Black!
January 9th, 2012 at 11:26 am
DutchRaider77 Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 11:19 am
OK. Ya’ll need to get off Tebow’s nuts foreals. If he was on another team, I would probably root for the kid, but he’s not. He’s a FK’n Donkey. FK him and the Donks
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POST OF THE YEAR!
Yes it is the post of the year….to think that a Raiders fan would have to hear about that stupid Bronco’s QB in our BLOG is disgusting and should make real fans want to puke!!!
January 9th, 2012 at 11:27 am
Just want to wish all of you luck with your new GM and say wish Oakland was coming here instead of Denver. We seem to always play you guys well and hard fought games. But something tells me we are underestimating Denver and a Pats victory is not a sure thing.
Broncos 28
Pats 17
January 9th, 2012 at 11:28 am
John Fox is one heck of a coach.
Hue cant lift Fox’s spirit let alone his jock.
Thats all the proof you need to can Huebo the hobbit.
The Raiders were kikking butt and headed to the playoffs, Huebo went for a pasages & nail/foot massage wearing his trademark mascae and he lost the team and` ruined a sure fire playoff run.
raiders coaches are suppodes to be tough, old school hard arses like pinp hand. Oakland wears that with pride, we cannot have a metroseksextel hollowood wannabee filled with pride who lies at PC’s.
January 9th, 2012 at 11:28 am
Does anyone doubt that HueJack wants to win and be successful?
Does anyone doubt that Reggie wants to win and be successful?
Does anyone doubt that either Palmer or JCampbell want to win & be successful?
Does anyone doubt that the “majority” of players on our roster want to win & be successful?
That tells me that they are all starting on the same page. The question now is can they all agree on how to win & be successful. If they can, we are all going to be happy campers. Those that can’t or won’t get on the same page will be gone post haste.
I think Hue can & will be our HC for many years to come. We will be transitioning from dysfunctional to a finely tuned entity. I think Reggie will be something new to the Raiders – 2 way communication. In the past it’s been one way communication – from Al Davis to your ear. Things were done his way, PERIOD. Going forward, we should see thoughtful evaluation of every situation and rational implementation of problem solving solutions based on the world around us TODAY – NOT 25 years ago. This Raider team sport will now be run with a team management approach rather than a dictatorship.
January 9th, 2012 at 11:29 am
Ok MR thanks for checking in.
Loon
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Pats Fan Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 11:27 am
Just want to wish all of you luck with your new GM and say wish Oakland was coming here instead of Denver. We seem to always play you guys well and hard fought games. But something tells me we are underestimating Denver and a Pats victory is not a sure thing.
Broncos 28
Pats 17
January 9th, 2012 at 11:29 am
1342.RaiderRockstar Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 11:01 am
Funny.
nobody was saying how Al’s death was a distraction that caused this team to go into a tailspin during the first seven games after his passing (Raiders went 5-2)
I guess somewhere between 11/27 after we beat Chicago and 12/04 when we lost to Miami the coaches and players decided it was time to grieve ???
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Not hard to believe that the death of the owner eventually wore the team down mentally, just like it isnt hard to believe that the loss of so many critical players to injury eventually wore the team down physically.
January 9th, 2012 at 11:29 am
can’t wait til tomorrows presser
January 9th, 2012 at 11:29 am
Palmer isn’t going anywhere but under center when training camp starts next summer…
January 9th, 2012 at 11:30 am
Does anyone doubt that the “majority” of players on our roster want to win & be successful?
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Truthfully, I think there are a number of players on the roster to whom winning really doesn’t matter anymore.
January 9th, 2012 at 11:30 am
What you dorks fail to see was that 2 of the steeler’s front 4 were not even playing because of injury then the other 2 went down during the first quarter of the game.
They had 2 starters gone from the secondary and 2 LB’s that were hurt.
So basically Denver was playing 1/2 the Steeler’s team.
Please try and remember a game in which you saw the Steeler’s never get a QB sack or pressure on the QB? I myself cannot think of one!
The Bronco’s luck runs out this weekend I never thought in my life that I would be such a Brady fan on playoff weekend but I am so sick of reading about a sub par QB on a division rival in here!
January 9th, 2012 at 11:30 am
There isn’t a starting job out there for Jason Campbell.
Why wouldn’t he come back to the Raiders as a backup?
January 9th, 2012 at 11:31 am
YoungAmerican Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 11:30 am
Does anyone doubt that the “majority” of players on our roster want to win & be successful?
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Truthfully, I think there are a number of players on the roster to whom winning really doesn’t matter anymore.
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I agree.
That’s why it’s time to get rid of the fugazzi’s.
Get to work Mckenzie.
January 9th, 2012 at 11:33 am
Truthfully, I think there are a number of players on the roster to whom winning really doesn’t matter anymore.
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A number?????
Like who?
January 9th, 2012 at 11:33 am
“There isn’t a starting job out there for Jason Campbell.
Why wouldn’t he come back to the Raiders as a backup?”
He will…..lets be real if McNabb cant find a starting job with one of these 32 teams I doubt JC will be able to either.
January 9th, 2012 at 11:33 am
1349.RaiderRockstar Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 11:06 am
Smee,
Hue Jackson had plenty of time to gameplan for Tebow last time we faced Denver and he did a faceplant.
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Wrong. When we played Denver was the first game the implemented the new ‘Tebow’ offense. His first 2 starts we running the ‘Orton’ offense, they gave up on that when Detroit dismantled them. No one had seen the current Denver offense prior to our game.
January 9th, 2012 at 11:33 am
666…agree 100%…
January 9th, 2012 at 11:33 am
J Hill Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 11:30 am
There isn’t a starting job out there for Jason Campbell.
Why wouldn’t he come back to the Raiders as a backup?
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Because there isn’t a starting job out there?
January 9th, 2012 at 11:33 am
YoungAmerican Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 11:30 am
Does anyone doubt that the “majority” of players on our roster want to win & be successful?
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Truthfully, I think there are a number of players on the roster to whom winning really doesn’t matter anymore.
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thats how i see it too. no desire, no heart, no sense of urgency. it has to go back to not being motivated properly
January 9th, 2012 at 11:34 am
Is it the scheme?
Or players who don’t care?
If we had more intense players, we would have been ok on D?
January 9th, 2012 at 11:35 am
J,
It’s both
January 9th, 2012 at 11:36 am
bcz24 Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 11:33 am
1349.RaiderRockstar Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 11:06 am
Smee,
Hue Jackson had plenty of time to gameplan for Tebow last time we faced Denver and he did a faceplant.
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Wrong. When we played Denver was the first game the implemented the new ‘Tebow’ offense. His first 2 starts we running the ‘Orton’ offense, they gave up on that when Detroit dismantled them. No one had seen the current Denver offense prior to our game.
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It’s all about game plan adjustments. Gotta be versitle on both sides of the ball and let the flow of the game dictate your calls. Can’t have just one or two schemes to defend with.
Still should of won that game.
January 9th, 2012 at 11:36 am
YoungAmerican Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 11:30 am
Does anyone doubt that the “majority” of players on our roster want to win & be successful?
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Truthfully, I think there are a number of players on the roster to whom winning really doesn’t matter anymore.
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If true, they will feel the wrath of Reggie which will be a good thing for all except them. That’s one major facet of Reggie’s job – evaluating, acquiring, and ejecting personnel. Hue’s job is to tell Reggie what he needs to be successful. Reggie’s job is to make it happen and hold the HC accountable for results.
January 9th, 2012 at 11:36 am
Hue was more concerned with having an ESPN writer follow him to the salon than watching film on the upcoming team he was facing.
A Raiders coach should have dirty fingernails and does not care about how he looks on the sidelines.
January 9th, 2012 at 11:36 am
J Hill Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 11:25 am
Was just looking at the draft order.
Jason Campbell may be back. Where else does he have a chance to start?
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Seattle – Miami – Kansas City – Maybe Tampa bey – Minnesota – heck he could beat out Smith at the 49ers – He’s a good QB and there are a ton of teams that would love to have him. Great game manager, I’ve got nothing against JC – but if he stays here he’s going to be a back up. I wish him the best of luck anywhere he goes except when he plays the Raiders
January 9th, 2012 at 11:36 am
We need more players like J. Moss, who play to win and not collect a pay check.
TIME TO GET RID OF THE FUGAZZI’S!
January 9th, 2012 at 11:37 am
I dont even know why this is up for debate, but keep Hue!
January 9th, 2012 at 11:38 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 11:36 am
Hue was more concerned with having an ESPN writer follow him to the salon than watching film on the upcoming team he was facing.
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Yeah, cuz we didnt beat the Chicago Bears the week that article was written….
Hate on Hue all you want, but please use facts when doing so.
January 9th, 2012 at 11:39 am
Could you be a bit more specific DMac?
I mean, it sure seemed like Wimbley was TRYING to cover Gates to me.
Sure looked like Mike Mitchell was trying to make a good decision when Calvin Johnson blew right past him.
McClain was 30 yds downfield TRYING to cover Johnson at the end of the Detroit game.
Which of these players don’t care?
January 9th, 2012 at 11:39 am
“Truthfully, I think there are a number of players on the roster to whom winning really doesn’t matter anymore.”
I agree after watching the San Diego game it was depressing to see the lack of effort by the defense.
It was as if they were happy to get paid and head home for the off season. VACATION TIME!!!
January 9th, 2012 at 11:40 am
Unless Campbell wants to compete for a starting job I believe he’s outta here…. Could change depending on what direction McKenzie decides …I can’t see Campbell beating Palmer out for starter… But if he did then good for us… We’d have two good qbs… The Raiders paid a steep price for Palmer and I can’t see any competent GM not giving him every chance to succeed ..Palmer will be a Raider in 2012
January 9th, 2012 at 11:40 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 11:39 am
“Truthfully, I think there are a number of players on the roster to whom winning really doesn’t matter anymore.”
I agree after watching the San Diego game it was depressing to see the lack of effort by the defense.
It was as if they were happy to get paid and head home for the off season. VACATION TIME!!!
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I agree whole heartedly with this, they just wand to get the game over so they could sit on the couch and spend their why over paid money.
January 9th, 2012 at 11:41 am
What do you get for being post number 1500?
January 9th, 2012 at 11:41 am
J Hill Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 11:30 am
There isn’t a starting job out there for Jason Campbell.
Why wouldn’t he come back to the Raiders as a backup?
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There are a number of teams that would want him to start.
Off the top of my head, I can think of Seattle, Washington, Miami and possibly Cleveland (if they’ve finally grown tired of Colt McCoy).
January 9th, 2012 at 11:42 am
666…true…the Raiders had the division handed to them and not enough players wanted it….. We handed it right back to the Donkeys…. That attitude has to stop..
January 9th, 2012 at 11:43 am
DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 11:41 am
What do you get for being post number 1500?
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A writer that is slow to update the blog?
January 9th, 2012 at 11:43 am
1406.Raiderbuck Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 11:40 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 11:39 am
“Truthfully, I think there are a number of players on the roster to whom winning really doesn’t matter anymore.”
I agree after watching the San Diego game it was depressing to see the lack of effort by the defense.
It was as if they were happy to get paid and head home for the off season. VACATION TIME!!!
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I agree whole heartedly with this, they just wand to get the game over so they could sit on the couch and spend their why over paid money.
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NFL should make them work concessions during the playoff games and clean up the stadium.
January 9th, 2012 at 11:43 am
DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 11:41 am
What do you get for being post number 1500?
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You get to be poster 1500.
Bragging rights.
January 9th, 2012 at 11:43 am
Campbell’s a good Qb… He will find a job
January 9th, 2012 at 11:44 am
Mark me down for putting Hue on the road.
Broke record for penalties
Miami and Green Bay gms unacceptable EFFORT. KC and SD gms lame too.
Not well-rounded enough to be head coach…decent O.C.
The difference in energy level and focus between Raiders and (dolphins, chiefs and broncos) when raiders had everything to play for also unacceptable
January 9th, 2012 at 11:44 am
“Hate on Hue all you want, but please use facts when doing so”
Now there is an intelligent post…..NOT!!
Please use logic when hating? You are a clown that has ran out of logical things to say so you just open your trap and hope that it makes some kind of sense.
Hue lost the team by being a media whoore. He is more concerned with media events than spending face time with his QB.
If you are not working 14-16 hours a day as a HC during the season it will show up at game time.
Look at how sloppy Andy Reid looks or McCarthy or Bellichick….these guys look like they have not had a shower for a week and have been sleeping in the film room living off of catered Pizza and sandwiches.
January 9th, 2012 at 11:44 am
I am going to bet the house on TT this weekend.
The 3:16 stuff yesterday confinced me that the Creator of the universe loves TT.
January 9th, 2012 at 11:44 am
Seattle – Miami – Kansas City – Maybe Tampa bey – Minnesota – heck he could beat out Smith at the 49ers
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Disagree.
Miami is going with Moore for the forseeable future.
Tampa Bay is not kicking Freeman to the curb this offseason.
Minny is going with their 1st rd pick.
There will be 3 or 4 QB drafted in the first round this year that will also cut Glo’s chances down.
I’d rather have Glo as our #3 than Boller.
January 9th, 2012 at 11:44 am
J,
You can’t tell who the fugazzi’s are?
Just look at the dudes who take plays off and don’t give it their all every play.
I”l give you three. Seymour,Kelly, McClain.
B told me that after the Lions game, DVD (twitter) couldn’t wait to get to his Christmas party. WTF?
January 9th, 2012 at 11:45 am
DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 11:41 am
What do you get for being post number 1500?
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Race ya to it!
January 9th, 2012 at 11:45 am
Also, Hue has already been kept. Its about Chucky B and it always has been. He was hired with FULL CONTROL OF D. Thats how Al does it. Hue couldnt reorganize the whole D scheme midway through the season.
And forget what anybody says. It was our D that killed us this season and I will explain:
In the Chi v. Oakland game this play sums it up. Bears get into the redzone with a 3 receiver set. Chucky calls a blitz from the nickelback, but doesnt have to saftey shift over. The blitz is obvious before the play and any pro Qb sees it coming. Because the safety doesnt shift there’s a 10yrd gap where their slot wr is completely open. Keep in my CHI is only 15yrds from the endzone.
Ball is snapped. Nickel corner blitzes. Qb goes hot to slot. Wr catches and only has to make safety miss with no one else around to walk into endzone. 6 on the board.
January 9th, 2012 at 11:45 am
DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 11:41 am
What do you get for being post number 1500?
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The chance to have whatever you post agreed/disagreed with in post 1501
January 9th, 2012 at 11:46 am
post 1421
January 9th, 2012 at 11:46 am
1412.Smee Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 11:43 am
DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 11:41 am
What do you get for being post number 1500?
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You get to be poster 1500.
Bragging rights.
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And a free subscription to this site?
January 9th, 2012 at 11:47 am
Moderator told me to slow down. Said I was posting to fast. So I told him I was in a hurry to beat DMN to 1500. He said OK
January 9th, 2012 at 11:47 am
Whats the highest number of comments they have gotten to?
January 9th, 2012 at 11:48 am
Plunketthead
Please do not follow false gods let me show you the way.
January 9th, 2012 at 11:48 am
Now he is gonna call steve and let him know we have a mand dash to 1500 so steve is gonna update real quick.
January 9th, 2012 at 11:48 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 11:44 am
Look at how sloppy Andy Reid looks or McCarthy or Bellichick….these guys look like they have not had a shower for a week and have been sleeping in the film room living off of catered Pizza and sandwiches.
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True that. I’m sure Papa John’s, Panda Express and other such places all know their low-level go-fers by name…
January 9th, 2012 at 11:49 am
Please use logic when hating? You are a clown that has ran out of logical things to say so you just open your trap and hope that it makes some kind of sense.
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Whatever man. I stick to facts. Fact is the team WON the week that article was posted.
And you say I use injuries as an ‘excuse’… thats laughable when you prop THIS trash up as the reason our team struggled down the stretch.
By the way, can I see Hue’s timecard? I mean you MUST have it if you are willing to say you know that Hue wasn’t putting in enough time.
January 9th, 2012 at 11:49 am
DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 11:47 am
Whats the highest number of comments they have gotten to?
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I’ve seen over 3000 during the dog days of the off season
January 9th, 2012 at 11:50 am
1430
January 9th, 2012 at 11:50 am
DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 11:46 am
1412.Smee Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 11:43 am
DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 11:41 am
What do you get for being post number 1500?
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You get to be poster 1500.
Bragging rights.
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And a free subscription to this site?
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Plus an autographed Daryl Blackstock photo.
January 9th, 2012 at 11:50 am
Also DMN, be careful with your posts when you get to 1500. They dont always place them in order. Moderator gets confused when the hits come in to quick.
January 9th, 2012 at 11:50 am
Hue stays
Bresh does not
Waffle iron comes in
Def is good
Off is good
Afc West is not
Raiders win
Raiders in playoffs
Don Manoukian happy
End of story
January 9th, 2012 at 11:50 am
No one is more disgusted with a tebow playoff win than me, but I have no proem acknowledging the fact that as of now Palmer & the boys are looking up at him. Tebow had a better season than Palmer, & now owns a playoff win, against the defending afc champs no less.
Palmer didnt get us in the playoffs like he was brought here to do. He was own out vs tebow head to head, & threw the same amount of lpicks that most expected tebow to throw. We had to watch Houston & denver host a playoff win knowing that my team has gone into both venues & won. Our team was better than both of them until we lost our qb.
This maybe difficult for some of you to swallow but it is the simple truth.
Palmer under achieved & floundered on his way to 16 picks in 8 games, while tebow over achieved with a far less talented offense.
As of now tebow is the man in the afc west due to the void that was created with jc’s injury.
Tebow owns us
January 9th, 2012 at 11:51 am
DMAC Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 11:50 am
DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 11:46 am
1412.Smee Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 11:43 am
DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 11:41 am
What do you get for being post number 1500?
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You get to be poster 1500.
Bragging rights.
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And a free subscription to this site?
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Plus an autographed Daryl Blackstock photo.
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And an only somewhat-used cup of JaMarcus’ Private Reserve brand Purple Drank. With no more than 15% saliva by volume!
January 9th, 2012 at 11:52 am
“B told me that after the Lions game, DVD (twitter) couldn’t wait to get to his Christmas party. WTF?”
Also Jacoby Ford tweeting at 3AM new years eve when he had what was essentially a playoff game the next morning.
McClain renewing his gun permit then brandishing the weapon hours later when he was supposed to be at a funeral not playing gangster in the streets. If he was studying the Dolphins offense while beating up his friends it wouldn’t have bothered me.
January 9th, 2012 at 11:52 am
DMAC
Damn I wanted the jerseey
January 9th, 2012 at 11:52 am
8RaiderReign8 Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 11:45 am
Also, Hue has already been kept. Its about Chucky B and it always has been. He was hired with FULL CONTROL OF D. Thats how Al does it. Hue couldnt reorganize the whole D scheme midway through the season.
And forget what anybody says. It was our D that killed us this season and I will explain:
In the Chi v. Oakland game this play sums it up. Bears get into the redzone with a 3 receiver set. Chucky calls a blitz from the nickelback, but doesnt have to saftey shift over. The blitz is obvious before the play and any pro Qb sees it coming. Because the safety doesnt shift there’s a 10yrd gap where their slot wr is completely open. Keep in my CHI is only 15yrds from the endzone.
Ball is snapped. Nickel corner blitzes. Qb goes hot to slot. Wr catches and only has to make safety miss with no one else around to walk into endzone. 6 on the board.
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Hue could not have done anything about this play because his DC is the one who calls it. This is just bad defense and it happened a lot. Hell even Rivers mic’d up said it.
January 9th, 2012 at 11:52 am
DMAC Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 11:50 am
DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 11:46 am
1412.Smee Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 11:43 am
DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 11:41 am
What do you get for being post number 1500?
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You get to be poster 1500.
Bragging rights.
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And a free subscription to this site?
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Plus an autographed Daryl Blackstock photo.
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Plus the moderator said you get to blog an article like stve and jer do. Just once though. Doesn’t want your head to get to big. Says he deals with that already. Said he is mixed up on weather or not he wants Chucky B to stay or go.
January 9th, 2012 at 11:53 am
Wouldn’t surprise me that DVD needed an attitude adjustment. He got benched at Miami last year.
Disagree with you on our DTs. I think they do what is asked of them by being gap penetrators. Seymour got hurt midway through the season, but played through it. Of course his production fell off.
Kelly got the strip sack of Stafford that led to us going up 13.
Get a real DC, and most of these issues go away, imo.
January 9th, 2012 at 11:53 am
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 11:44 am
Not well-rounded enough to be head coach…decent O.C.
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Let’s not forget that this last year Hue HAD TO BE more than just the HC. He was also handicapped with little control of the defensive side of the team, especially being saddled with Bresnahan. He was in way over his head with very little up-to-date football savvy help available to him. With Reggie now on-board, Hue can focus on really being the HC. I’m also assuming that Reggie AND Hue will be able to agree on the proper DC and defensive & offensive Assistant coaches. This will go a long ways towards success.
January 9th, 2012 at 11:54 am
John Fox is one heck of a coach.
Hue cant lift Fox’s spirit let alone his jock.
Thats all the proof you need to can Huebo the hobbit.
The Raiders were kikking butt and headed to the playoffs, Huebo went for a pasages & nail/foot massage wearing his trademark mascae and he lost the team and` ruined a sure fire playoff run.
raiders coaches are suppodes to be tough, old school hard arses like pinp hand. Oakland wears that with pride, we cannot have a metroseksextel hollowood wannabee filled with pride who lies at PC’s.
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Plunk wins “comment of the week!”
and it’s only Monday, oh snap
January 9th, 2012 at 11:55 am
“By the way, can I see Hue’s timecard? I mean you MUST have it if you are willing to say you know that Hue wasn’t putting in enough time.”
See post 1427
You don’t have to see his time card to know that he was not putting in enough hours you simpleton all you have to do is listen to the Carson Palmer interview where he says “I wish I could have gotten more face time with Hue during the season”
Its called priorities! Put that in your pipe and smoke it!
January 9th, 2012 at 11:55 am
After watching Tebow yesterday, I just want our defense to prepare correctly for him so we can beat them.
January 9th, 2012 at 11:56 am
Maybe I shouldnt be hatin on Carson like I do….but this preppy jcat stole my girl back in high school…I just hate rich spoiled cats
January 9th, 2012 at 11:56 am
he says “I wish I could have gotten more face time with Hue during the season”
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they need to sync their iphones.
January 9th, 2012 at 11:56 am
Mistic, I understand you are a big fan of JC, but you CANT compare Palmer to Campbell. That choice was NEVER available to us. The only player Palmer can be compared to is Boller, and he won more games than Boller could have. Period.
We all would have liked for Jason to stay healthy, and start 16 games, with us keeping next years first and 2013s 2nd round picks. Campbell got hurt.
Our passing game was more explosive with Palmer under center, but JC had the benefit of a much more explosive running game. Had DMAC stayed healthy, Palmers INTs are probably cut in HALF at least, as he wouldn’t have been in the position to throw nearly as much.
January 9th, 2012 at 11:56 am
DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 11:52 am
DMAC
Damn I wanted the jerseey
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Thats goes to the winner of post 3000
lol
January 9th, 2012 at 11:57 am
““By the way, can I see Hue’s timecard? I mean you MUST have it if you are willing to say you know that Hue wasn’t putting in enough time.”
Also see post 1442!
I am not alone with this theory.
January 9th, 2012 at 11:57 am
I think it is funny how all the teams that lost this weekend sound like we do right now.
Whenever you lose a football game, it becomes very painfully obvious where your teams weakness is. Right now, people are calling for the Matt Ryans head, Michael Turner to GTFO, and Roddy White to call DHB to learn how to catch a pass.
The Steelers Secondary Sucks (sound familiar) and the whole D-line is an abomination.
The Broncos have a Better QB than the Lions, and Matt Stafford Sucks etc. etc…
Bottom Line, when you lose you are pissed..There can only be one winner, and if it aint your team, you can find every fault down the line and up the chain.
We are not alone.
January 9th, 2012 at 11:58 am
You don’t have to see his time card to know that he was not putting in enough hours you simpleton all you have to do is listen to the Carson Palmer interview where he says “I wish I could have gotten more face time with Hue during the season”
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Thats another trash argument. Palmer never said he couldnt face time with Hue because Hue wasn’t at the complex working, Hue WAS at the complex working on other things, and he ALSO admitted he would like to have had more face time with CP AND said he would make that correction next year. Next BS argument please.
January 9th, 2012 at 11:59 am
Hue Jack city has gone bust….time to reboot this mutha
January 9th, 2012 at 11:59 am
B@uce…..your opinion…..was Hue working hard enough as a HC or was he spending too much time on promoting himself?
January 9th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
John Fox is one heck of a coach.
Hue cant lift Fox’s spirit let alone his jock.
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Yeah, Hue as a rookie matched Foxes 10th season as HC in record, Fox DID have the benefit of the 3rd tiebreaker… yeah Hue definitely cant carry the jock of the guy who beat him on the third tiebreaker…
January 9th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
Kelly gives up more in (run D), than he produces (the occasional sack).
January 9th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
Hue has already been kept. Its about Chucky B and it always has been. He was hired with FULL CONTROL OF D. Thats how Al does it.
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LOL!
January 9th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
Yes if JC never got hurt we are playing New England this weekend not Denver and I think everyone here would agree with that.
But that’s not what happened!
January 9th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
Not comparing jc & Palmer only pointing out that we were clearly better than Houston & Denver while he was the starter, after his injury this team was never the same. Palmer was blown out by the donks, & it sucks watching them host play off wins. Remember Palmer was brought in to get us to the playoffs but he flopped miserably.
I made no claims about what qb is better we have ready covered that
January 9th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Palmer is definitely looking up at tebow. Tebow has a playoff win and crushed Palmer head to head. That is the ugly truth
January 9th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Ok Bcz24 then if Hue was doing such a great job as you so imply then why is there any talk of replacing him.
Its all over the news wire not just here in our little blog.
January 9th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
@bcz24
Aren’t you a little disapointed with Palmer?
Doesn’t seem he gave us “Drew Brees” like devotion to coming and playing for the Raiders. Sounds stupid, but he did look a little pudgy at the end of the season. Cannot say that I disagree with Mistic that Palmer was playing at elite level. Just wish the Palmer story played out a little differently.
I really hope Campbell is disrespected in the off-season and the Raiders are the only team willing to sign him (hope). But I am a Raider fan and really don’t give a crap about an individual player.
January 9th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
Remember Palmer was brought in to get us to the playoffs but he flopped miserably.
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Tim Tebow couldnt have gotten this team to the playoffs either. Campbell without McFadden and with the way our D played, would have had us sitting in the cold too. Palmer had some serious WTF moments but you are putting the entire second half of the season on him, and that just isnt true.
January 9th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
Lost in all this hue jax staying or going is the fact that it sure seems mark is letting his football guy run the show…that is a change for the better.
January 9th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
Why not just bend over for Tebow, then?
January 9th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
“Remember Palmer was brought in to get us to the playoffs but he flopped miserably.”
I would say that the team as whole flopped to blame it all on Palmer is kind of short sided don’t you think?
January 9th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
At a minimum reggie should open up the search because the job description for the oakland head coach has changed significantly.
I would have no problem with Hue remaining a candidate though. But I would reopen the search
January 9th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
Please can we all just make a gentlemen’s agreement here that we will not mention the name of the Bornco’s QB anymore I am about to lose my freshly eaten lunch if see that f@ckers name in here one more time!!!!
THIS IS A RAIDERS BLOG NOT A DENVER BLOG!!!!
January 9th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
MikeiG #1450 said it best. Oh how true. This blog just proves it.
January 9th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
SB I tried to not judge you as oakglenn because I have no proof, however I would bet money you are. You have displayed many, many, many of his sayings and you always throw darts at others just like OG.
I have also ignored you and I do not throw darts ( I may have thrown one when you and MB were throwing darts however I have a long history of respecting others here, and I very seldom engage in typefighting.
I will continue to ignore you and you are free to keep trying to proving you are OG or his duplicate.
PS There are no preachers in here preaching.
Why do you always insult and Gos & denigrate Bible Belivers?
By the way Jesus loves me and TT!
January 9th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
666…Im sure he was working hard…but that jcat let the power get to him…brother needs to go
January 9th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
“Bronco’s QB couldnt have gotten this team to the playoffs either. Campbell without McFadden and with the way our D played, would have had us sitting in the cold too. Palmer had some serious WTF moments but you are putting the entire second half of the season on him, and that just isnt true.”
So we do agree on one subject….
January 9th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
Yes if JC never got hurt we are playing New England this weekend not Denver and I think everyone here would agree with that.
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Pretty sure we would have won the first KC game which would have put us a 9 wins.
Not so sure our defense would have performed any better in the Det and SD losses though.
January 9th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
If dear Al (RIP) was around the D would never have failed like it did. Al may have had his hands in it, but he never would have stood for it. He would have ripped chuck such a new one the man probably wouldn’t have been able to take a duece for a week. Then Al would have gave him some advice, bought him a KFC and we’d a been at least 11-5.
January 9th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
if Hue was doing such a great job as you so imply then why is there any talk of replacing him.
Its all over the news wire not just here in our little blog
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Silver,
we’re all idiots – obviously!
including McKenzie if Hue has to reportedly re-interview for his job today
January 9th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
“666…Im sure he was working hard…but that jcat let the power get to him…brother needs to go”
On what condition would keep him?
January 9th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
ilverandblack666 Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Ok Bcz24 then if Hue was doing such a great job as you so imply then why is there any talk of replacing him.
Its all over the news wire not just here in our little blog.
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Im not saying Hue Jackson did a GREAT JOB, I have never said that, I have said NUMEROUS time he made mistakes, a lot of rookie HC mistakes, maybe more compounded by the fact that he was in charge of way too much after Al died. You guys make it seem like Hue took a 12-4 team and made them 8-8, when in reality he took an 8-8 team and made them 8-8, not too bad all things considered. You guys expected Hue to be perfect in his first year, no learning curve, no time to mature, no ‘excuses’. I would like to see what the man can do next season with a (hopefully) healthy roster, a quality defense and a GM running the show allowing him to JUST be the coach.
January 9th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
Campbell without McFadden and with the way our D played, would have had us sitting in the cold too.
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Campbell without DMac AND his starting WRs wouldn’t have been pretty.
January 9th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
1419.8RaiderReign8 Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 11:45 am
Also, Hue has already been kept. Its about Chucky B and it always has been. He was hired with FULL CONTROL OF D. Thats how Al does it. Hue couldnt reorganize the whole D scheme midway through the season.
And forget what anybody says. It was our D that killed us this season and I will explain:
In the Chi v. Oakland game this play sums it up. Bears get into the redzone with a 3 receiver set. Chucky calls a blitz from the nickelback, but doesnt have to saftey shift over. The blitz is obvious before the play and any pro Qb sees it coming. Because the safety doesnt shift there’s a 10yrd gap where their slot wr is completely open. Keep in my CHI is only 15yrds from the endzone.
Ball is snapped. Nickel corner blitzes. Qb goes hot to slot. Wr catches and only has to make safety miss with no one else around to walk into endzone. 6 on the board.
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That’s just one of the many problems with that clown Chuck B.
How can he go into the same gameplan as he did for the 1st Charger game, when he should they would make adjustments?
How can you not cover Gates and him at the line consistently? How can you not roll coverage to help out Lito versus Floyd right off the bat?
How can you not put blitz LB pressure on Rivers up the middle or to his front side to at least try and flush him to his left, where he is useless??
January 9th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
TY brother RS
January 9th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
We keep him on the condition Reggie thinks he is good for us
January 9th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
Code Black.
January 9th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
Where is DMN. 1500 comin up.
January 9th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
CODE CONDO!
January 9th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
Tebow.
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Silverandblack666 Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
Please can we all just make a gentlemen’s agreement here that we will not mention the name of the Bornco’s QB anymore I am about to lose my freshly eaten lunch if see that f@ckers name in here one more time!!!!
THIS IS A RAIDERS BLOG NOT A DENVER BLOG!!!!
January 9th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
Our new GM is evaluating Hue right now as we type…..lets place Vegas type odds on what happens:
2 to 1 He keeps Hue
8 to 1 He fires Hue
15 to 1 He replaces Hue with Moss
No line on Chucky gets fired
January 9th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
Dakota,
What’s the holdup with Howard coming to LA mayne?!?!?
You think Buss Jr is vetoing Mitch’s offer of Bynum and 2 picks?
You think Orlando’s insisting on Caracter being added to the deal is holding it up?
January 9th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
LOL at Raider fans using the media to back up their Hue hate. This is Oakland folks. There hasnt been a HC in the building in 10 years that wasn’t on the hot seat after the season. Very rarely is anything positive EVER reported about us. MOST of you call ESPN BSPN, and now you are using their drivel just because you agree with it for once. Thats some funny sh1t.
Truthfully, since Schefter reported Hues job may be in jeopardy, I actually feel 1000x MORE comfortable that he is safe.
January 9th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
Chuck B isn’t getting fired, but his contract expires next week.
January 9th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
I will miss AL’s pressers more than anything. Those were pure classics! Every off season you knew that presser was coming and it was going to be good!
R.I.P
January 9th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
Fox also took over a team in disaray.
I bet Denver would not get 5 wins after last year. They even got to 1-4 and Fox still turned the team around. they are playing or TT or the atmosphere Fox set.
We are talking a huge turn around
January 9th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
Really Brownstains Really!!!
Are you that infatuated with the Bronco’s QB?
I heard he was a virgin maybe you could pop his brown eyed cherry?
TOOL!
January 9th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
A number?????
Like who?
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Tommy Kelly, Michael Huff, Rolando McClain, and Stan Routt come to mind immediately.
For 3 out of the 4, that’s what happens when you get a top-tier contract without truly earning it.
As for McClain? That’s what happens when you’re a malcontent. Kid might develop into a player yet, but it seems doubtful at this point whether he’ll ever develop into a TEAM player.
Murphy and Ford’s focus seems inconsistent. DMac won’t gut it out and take a pain shot in order to help his team.
Seems like a bunch of guys who are playing for themselves and not for the guys around them. That’s not how you win football games.
January 9th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
Wonder if Reggie is going to breakout the overhead projector tomorrow?
He’ll probably have Herrera roll it out and then tell them both to hit the road.
January 9th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
Bcz24 Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
Remember Palmer was brought in to get us to the playoffs but he flopped miserably.
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Tim Tebow couldnt have gotten this team to the playoffs either. Campbell without McFadden and with the way our D played, would have had us sitting in the cold too. Palmer had some serious WTF moments but you are putting the entire second half of the season on him, and that just isnt true.
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I think this is convenient speculation but it doesn’t ease the pain. I have no reason to belive jc would not have continued winning and gone to the playoffs. He was 5 games over 500. In his time here and 4-2 with the division lead & undefeated in the division.
Palmer was brought here because hue believed that the team as is was good enough to win now as long as the qb play did not drop off. The fact is the qb play did drop off, the leaky defense was an issue before palmers arrival.
I’m not putting it all on Palmer but he does deserve a sizable portion of the blame, in my view he badly under performed.
I do think it’s really interesting that when he came I said it was a bad idea & wouldn’t produce a playoff birth & 99% of the blog said I was wrong. Well chalk another one up to Tha SupaVillain, but it brings me no joy
January 9th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
If Hue does indeed stay. He needs to learn from his rookie mistakes.
Please no more 25 yard passing plays when you need 3 yards to win the game. (Detroit)
Please no more passes in the middle w/ no time outs left. (Chargers)
January 9th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
Jerry Mac is tweeting that Reggie is gonna take his time and believes that Hue will remain coach!
January 9th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
“LOL at Raider fans using the media to back up their Hue hate.”
I don’t hate Hue nor am I asking for his head on a platter I am merely asking him to step back out of the limelight and put his focus on the game plan/film room whatever else coaches do besides promoting themselves.
January 9th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
Is it 1500 yet?
January 9th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
I liked the play calls in Detroit the qb missed the throws to wide open recievers. He caught the defense completly off guard and surprised them I loved it. Palmer makes those plays & we are in the playoffs
January 9th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
January 9th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
Guess not.
January 9th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
hwnrdr Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
Jerry Mac is tweeting that Reggie is gonna take his time and believes that Hue will remain coach!
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Might as well take a little time. It’s not like the GB assistants will be free for a few weeks anyway…
January 9th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
It would be quite nostalgic if Reggie used the over-head projector tomorrow.
January 9th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
I liked the play calls in Detroit the qb missed the throws to wide open recievers. He caught the defense completly off guard and surprised them I loved it. Palmer makes those plays & we are in the playoffs
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I recall the ball bouncing off Shilens hands as he dove out.
January 9th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
Nmandi = late 1st round compensatory pick
Z.Miller = late 2nd round compensatory pick
T.Howard = 6th round compensatory pick
January 9th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
Mistic,
HONESTLY, Do you think Campbell would of lead us to the playoffs w/ out DMAC and injuries at the wide out?
January 9th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
Per a PFT report:
“Pittsburgh Post-Gazette that nose tackle Casey Hampton and tackle Max Starks both have ACL injuries that may need surgery.”
“Defensive end Brett Keisel has a “severe” groin injury that may also require surgery.”
This is just the D Line we all know that they had 2 guys missing from their secondary and an injured LB.
I would wager that the Colts would have beaten them yesterday with 1/2 of their team down to injuries especially on their defense.
January 9th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
Violent Hands Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
Nmandi = late 1st round compensatory pick
Z.Miller = late 2nd round compensatory pick
T.Howard = 6th round compensatory pick
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3rd and 4th maybe, but not 1st and 2nd.
January 9th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
” liked the play calls in Detroit the qb missed the throws to wide open recievers. He caught the defense completly off guard and surprised them I loved it. Palmer makes those plays & we are in the playoffs”
Yes there is that one scenario with Palmer that you could show as a reason for us missing the playoffs but to be fair there are 1,000 similar scenarios that kept us out of the playoffs that would include f@ckups by the defense!
Stop being so narrow minded Mystic1 there are tons of reasons we are not in the playoffs including coaching blunders!
January 9th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
Violent Hands Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
Nmandi = late 1st round compensatory pick
Z.Miller = late 2nd round compensatory pick
T.Howard = 6th round compensatory pick
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Compensatory picks can’t be any higher than the 3rd round.
January 9th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
“Violent Hands Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
Nmandi = late 1st round compensatory pick
Z.Miller = late 2nd round compensatory pick
T.Howard = 6th round compensatory pick
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Compensatory picks can’t be any higher than the 3rd round.”
You left out gallery
January 9th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
Tha SupaVillain, but it brings me no joy
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Yeah, no joy at all…. not like you point it out 62 times a day or anything.
Palmer didn’t play with anything resembling the offensive firepower JC played with bro. The loss of DMAC alone is the ultimate difference maker between the two. I doubt any of us would have thought Palmer would be good enough this year to take us to the playoffs without DMAC, and without ford and Moore for extended periods of time. I certainly wouldnt have.
January 9th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
COMPENSATTORY PICKS BEGIN AT THE END OF 3RD ROUND
January 9th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
The quality of the pick is dependent a formula that’s developed by the NFL Management Council “based on salary, playing time and postseason honors.” (For instance, the Carolina Panthers lost Julius Peppers, who was quite good. They did not bring in anyone of his value. Hence why they got the 97th overall pick in the draft as compensation.)
January 9th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
Won’t get one for Miller with the Boss signing.
Asomugha = 3rd
Gallery = probably 4th because he missed time due to injury
I doubt the Raiders will get anything for Howard because he lost his starting gig to Groves in his last season with the Raiders.
January 9th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
Not comparing jc & Palmer only pointing out that we were clearly better than Houston & Denver while he was the starter, after his injury this team was never the same. Palmer was blown out by the donks, & it sucks watching them host play off wins. Remember Palmer was brought in to get us to the playoffs but he flopped miserably.
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Palmer provided us a 17-3 halftime lead in this game in his first real game starting. And then a 24-10 lead.
HE HAS BEEN WITH THE TEAM FOR A MATTER OF DAYS!
The defense subsequently allowed 28 straight points.
And this is somehow on Palmer?
Same with The Lions game.
And the Buffalo game before with Jason.
The team issues begin and end with defense.
Not Hue, not Palmer.
Get over it.
January 9th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
I think we get a third for NA and thats it.
JFB called that and he comes up with great stats and other tidbits like that call
January 9th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
Miller wont net us a compensatory, he barely played in Seattle, I think he had less than 10 catches this year (he probably would have had 70 here lol).
January 9th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
1514.Violent Hands Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
The quality of the pick is dependent a formula that’s developed by the NFL Management Council “based on salary, playing time and postseason honors.” (For instance, the Carolina Panthers lost Julius Peppers, who was quite good. They did not bring in anyone of his value. Hence why they got the 97th overall pick in the draft as compensation.)
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Yes the 97th pick being the HIGHEST possible compensatory pick available, in other words NOT a first round pick as you previously stated
January 9th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
1517.Plunketthead Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
I think we get a third for NA and thats it.
JFB called that and he comes up with great stats and other tidbits like that call
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Yep, I have pretty much been on board with that since midseason as well.
January 9th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
bcz24 Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
Miller wont net us a compensatory, he barely played in Seattle, I think he had less than 10 catches this year (he probably would have had 70 here lol).
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He had 24 catches, which is four less than Boss.
In other words, Zach really WASN’T all that, but rather the product of an offensive system that used the TE a lot.
January 9th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
Boss played very little when Campbell was healthy, Miller would have played MOST snaps, and every down a pass was called, Campbell had a great raport with Miller and would have looked to him FAR more often than he went to Boss.
January 9th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
I say fire chuck b keep hue just dont let him call all the plays and let saunders run the offense. Bring in a good DC (spag could be good becauae he can reunite with waufle) get rid of the bums on defense and boom problem solved
January 9th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
Based on Nmandi being the best CB and better value than Peppers it must be higher than 97 if not 1st round
January 9th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
“Palmer provided us a 17-3 halftime lead in this game in his first real game starting. And then a 24-10 lead.
HE HAS BEEN WITH THE TEAM FOR A MATTER OF DAYS!
The defense subsequently allowed 28 straight points.
And this is somehow on Palmer?
Same with The Lions game.
And the Buffalo game before with Jason.
The team issues begin and end with defense.
Not Hue, not Palmer.
Get over it.”
Great post and somehow I doubt this will change the fact that Mystic1 will post 100 negative comments about Palmer before the day is done.
January 9th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
If McKenzie does his evaluation and thinks we need to dump Hue, then I’m ok with that…. And if McKenzie decides that Hue is on the same page then I’m ok with Hue staying ….I’m not about to hold Hue Jackson responsible for a defense or coachs he didn’t pick…. If Hue and McKenzie pick new coachs then Hue has to live with that responsibility ….
We have a GM to evaluate the team , coachs and talent … That’s what I’m counting on McKenzie to do …be a GM
January 9th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
32 TEAMS X 3 ROUNDS..97 IS HIGHST COMP PICK POSSABLE.ITS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE
January 9th, 2012 at 12:46 pm
Reggies first move = fires Brad Roll
January 9th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
The Raiders defense couldn’t make a stop… Can’t make a comeback if your defense can’t make a stop …. The Raiders would have been playing yesterday if the defense could have made 1 stop aginst Buffalo or Detriot.. Or San Diego …thats not on Palmer..
January 9th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
Violent Hands Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
Based on Nmandi being the best CB and better value than Peppers it must be higher than 97 if not 1st round
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You are not listening. By rule, the pick cannot be higher than the end of the 3rd round.
January 9th, 2012 at 12:49 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
“Palmer provided us a 17-3 halftime lead in this game in his first real game starting. And then a 24-10 lead.
HE HAS BEEN WITH THE TEAM FOR A MATTER OF DAYS!
The defense subsequently allowed 28 straight points.
And this is somehow on Palmer?
Same with The Lions game.
And the Buffalo game before with Jason.
The team issues begin and end with defense.
Not Hue, not Palmer.
Get over it.”
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Nice to see occasional bits of common sense in this blog. Lol
January 9th, 2012 at 12:49 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
Violent Hands Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
Based on Nmandi being the best CB and better value than Peppers it must be higher than 97 if not 1st round
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You are not listening. By rule, the pick cannot be higher than the end of the 3rd round.
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Also, none of the compensatory picks can be traded for anything.
January 9th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
Violent Hands Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 12:46 pm
Reggies first move = fires Brad Roll
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Nope. That’s the second move. The first one should be to fire John Herrera. If he REALLY wants some poetic justice, have Kawakami hand him the pink slip…
January 9th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
Reggie’s first move?… Fire this blog..
January 9th, 2012 at 12:52 pm
Does it matter how the FA played for his new team?
In other words, at the time we lost Zach Miller he was considered one our better players and a top FA.
Does his output in Seattle have any bearing on the pick we get?
January 9th, 2012 at 12:52 pm
1534 Just the brainless ones. Seymour Bush, JFB, and MistaBrown come to mind.
January 9th, 2012 at 12:53 pm
Think we should get a comp pick for the way the Browns and the NFL f-ed us on the Wimbley trade. Left the Raiders holding the bag on a illegal contract that violated the 30% rule. Doubt the Raiders would have given a 3rd at the time for a player on the last year of his contract…
January 9th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
Compensatory free agents are determined by a formula based on salary, playing time and postseason honors. The formula was developed by the NFL Management Council. Not every free agent lost or signed by a club is covered by this formula.
http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/09000d5d81ef2e1e/article/nfl-distributes-compensatory-draft-picks-to-23-clubs
January 9th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
If the Defense was even just a little bit better, this team would be in the playoffs. Not a complete overhaul better – just a couple of big plays. The question for McKenzie is to determine if the lapses on defense that killed the season are the fault of the scheme and the coaches, or the fault of execution on the field by lousy players. His first move concerning the defense should answer that question for us.
January 9th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
Sorry guys but Palmer was brought in to take us to the playoffs this year. I didn’t say that hue jack & most of you bloggers did. He didn’t get it done.
He did not play well turning it over far to often for my taste.
I know he maybe your favorite but it doesn’t absolve him of failure.
Perhaps he can play better next year
January 9th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
@Just Win Baby
So on D, who gets the knife?
January 9th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
Mistic…. No Palmer wasn’t brought in to ” Take us to the playoffs”… We’re did you read that?… Palmer was brought in because Campbell broke his collar bone and Hue took the opportunity to Bring in Palmer… Hed tried to bring in Palmer in the off season..
January 9th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
Great post and somehow I doubt this will change the fact that Mystic1 will post 100 negative comments about Palmer before the day is done.
1540.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
Sorry guys but Palmer was brought in to take us to the playoffs this year. I didn’t say that hue jack & most of you bloggers did. He didn’t get it done.
He did not play well turning it over far to often for my taste.
I know he maybe your favorite but it doesn’t absolve him of failure.
Perhaps he can play better next year
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lol. One down, 99 to go. You called it, SnB666.
January 9th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
Palmers most likely going to start next season …. For those draft picks the New GM is gonna do his damnedest to see that Palmer succeeds …
January 9th, 2012 at 1:06 pm
Palmer needs to play better. He needs to throw less INTs.
With that being said, the season comes down to this:
Make Someone Punt!
Not just in week 17, but throughout the season. Wretched defense, always out of position, 6 yard wide holes for McGahee to gallop thru, Tebow around the edge when we lapse in gap integrity (as usual), long bombs given up to Calvin Johnson, short passes cutting us up vs Bills and Pats. You name it, we couldnt stop ANYTHING this season. We were bad against all types of offenses.
Carsons interceptions dont matter if we stop someone, even ONCE IN A WHILE!
January 9th, 2012 at 1:06 pm
In my opinion, Bresnahan is the primary culprit and should be the first cut. The defensive backfield got burned for huge plays all season long, so maybe Rod Woodson isn’t the oaching prodigy we all hoped he’d be. Boyd should get cut along with Chris Johnson. Huff should definitely not be moved to CB and should stay at safety. We’re stuck with Routt.
January 9th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
So on D, who gets the knife?
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Assuming Jackson is back as HC, we already know Huff is moving to corner.
Who will replace Huff at FS, is the big question.
Hue likes Branch, McClain, and ShoNasty so I expect to see them all return.
Really just need to have everyone get healthy and make the change at DC.
Better secondary and LB depth is also a must. Will translate to a better STs unit too.
January 9th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
Palmer was brought in because Campbell’s injury gave Jackson the opportunity to bring in Palmer …. Anyone thinking it was solely to get us into the playoffs is delusional …
January 9th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
Just fire… I agree … That’s correct… Lots of us have that opinion.. … Far to many blown assignments … Almost every game the Raiders played had those breakdowns … Even the game the Raiders won in Dan Diego
January 9th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
Just win, not Just Fire. common mistake.
January 9th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
Routts contract was a blunder … He’s not a 40 million dollar Corner
January 9th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
Sorry guys but Palmer was brought in to take us to the playoffs this year. I didn’t say that hue jack & most of you bloggers did. He didn’t get it done.
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No one would have held him to that standard knowing McFadden would never see the field with Palmer, and that 2 of his 3 best recievers would miss considerable time. IMO Palmer would have led us to the playoffs if DMAC played in even HALF the games he was here.
January 9th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
“Palmer was brought in because Campbell’s injury gave Jackson the opportunity to bring in Palmer …. Anyone thinking it was solely to get us into the playoffs is delusional …”
So funny because it would appear that some of would have rather we rolled over and played dead week 7 giving up all hope of a post season and stayed with Boller.
January 9th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
1551.fingers Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
Routts contract was a blunder … He’s not a 40 million dollar Corner
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I like Routt at CB more than most and I will agree. He shouldnt have gotten more the $5 million a year.
January 9th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
I am a big critic of Routt, but I really don’t mind him as a $5 million-a-year, #2 CB.
I HATE him has a $10.5 million-a-year #1 CB.
January 9th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
I’m not sure any Qb could have got the Raiders to the playoffs the way the Raiders defense was surrendering Tds and huge plays .. Got to be able at some point to make a stop…. No stops equals no playoffs ..
January 9th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
I saw Twilight last night….I kind of liked it, lol
January 9th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
So funny because it would appear that some of would have rather we rolled over and played dead week 7 giving up all hope of a post season and stayed with Boller.
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Nah, only mistic wanted to go that route. Even the angriest of Palmers detractors would rather we made the move then stuck with Boller. Sticking with Boller was not an option. The compensation we had to pay for Palmer sucks, anything short of a Super Bowl victory next year to most will still equal giving up too much. Only Mistic would have been ok with us sticking with Boller and going 4-12
January 9th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
I’m gonna say that Palmer, yes, cut down on those int’s but he is a gun slinger, like Bret Favre…those will happen! However, the D cost us again, just like last year (except for Jano missing that chip shot in AZ)…Jacksonville last year…wow, 31 points in the second half?
This year, didn’t the team have a 20 point lead on Buffalo only to lose it in the end because Ryan Fitzpatrick had his way with our D? Detroit…how do you give up two tds in 7 minutes up by 13? San DIego…no one punted but Lechler and that was only once! Really? We couldn’t stop San Diego or any team for that matter from the friggen half yard line???
Was it Palmer’s fault? No! Can he get better? Maybe, and hope so if he’s my qb for 2012! Can DMAC stay healthy? Hmmm…given the history, I will say no! Does our D need a total overhaul? No, but we need a better DC! Again…not all to blame on Palmer!
January 9th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
For the record, I like Routt more than most too.
I choose to evaluate whats being asked of a player vs what they are performing, instead of how much they make.
As for his contract? The raiders overpaid to sign or keep a player…What else is new?
Thats like those who are upset about the penalty issue. We led the league in penalties. “Oh Hue better get that under control”.
Well Hue’d been here for 2 seasons. What about the previous 45?
Its just part of being a raiders fan if you ask me. Dealing with the penalties is just as sure as the sun will rise the next day.
January 9th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
With Routt stepping in for Nnamdi, we knew that the other corner would have to step things up just as much as Routt had to and they all failed. Some of these guys are awfully young and should improve. Chekwa and Van Dyke shouldn’t be held as responsible for their failures as the veteran cbs that played.
January 9th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
Routt is fine as a #1 CB, up until the final 3 weeks of the season where he racked up 11 penalties in 3 games anyways. I don’t mind the occasional PI, he is very aggressive in his press coverage, so that happens. He is TERRIBLE in zone coverage though, same as any secondary player on our roster.
January 9th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
My opinion is we need major help in the secondary… I’m not a big Routt fan… 17 penalties is way to much..( wasn’t that the most of any nfl corner?)… Routts 2010 numbers were better than last years… Not sure that big contract was wise ..
January 9th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
Its just part of being a raiders fan if you ask me. Dealing with the penalties is just as sure as the sun will rise the next day.
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The penalties this year were out of control even by Raider standards. Hue’s #1 area of focus next year. McKenzie better put some quality depth in our roster because Hue damn sure better start benching these fools who cant get with the program, like Gailey did with Johnson in buffalo.
January 9th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
Wish List…Cortland Finnegan!
January 9th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
McKenzie is probley shaking his head at some of Al’s player contracts ….. A GM is exactly what this team needs…
January 9th, 2012 at 1:25 pm
Wish List…Cortland Finnegan!
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As a raider, that guy would shatter Routt’s penalty record.
We dont need a hot head like that.
I’d rather Brandon Carr or Brent Grimes.
Finnegan already has a reputation as a dirty player. Couple that with becoming a Raider and the league will be after him from day 1.
January 9th, 2012 at 1:25 pm
Agree BCZ …. I don’t mind the aggressive penalties … But the stupid offsides,, false starts… Neutral zone penalties drive me nuts … Especially at crucial times of the game..
January 9th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
That is true, BCZ24…those D melt downs were downright ridiculous! Especially when LaMar Houston spiked the ball in KC!
Also…come on now…we win we get in…and playing at FRIGGEN HOME! Defense gave up almost as much yards as the offense put up, if not more…
January 9th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
Palmer, Huff, Wimbley, TK, Seymour, McFadden and Routt will all have to re-structure if the Raiders want to have enough money to improve via free agency.
January 9th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
Also, Finnegan got punked by Blount a couple years ago!
January 9th, 2012 at 1:28 pm
Can we bring Howie’s son home?
January 9th, 2012 at 1:28 pm
My opinion is we need major help in the secondary…
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At FS, I agree 100%.
I like the idea of moving Huff to corner. I think the new DC will use him and Routt a little better than they have been used in the past.
I like out rookies at CB. We could use one more solid vet to compliment that group.
We need 3 new safeties, imo. Huff’s replacement and 2 quality backups. Mitchell must go!
January 9th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
Youngamerican… Yep… McKenzis problably thinking the samething
January 9th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
I hope the new DC puts an end to this Huff-to-CB nonsense.
There are good corners available in FA and the draft.
There are NO good free safeties available through either FA or the draft.
Best the Raiders could hope for in FA is DeCoud, Griffin, or Jarrad Page. All equally as inconsistent as Huff, or moreso.
January 9th, 2012 at 1:30 pm
Chekwa is the Raiders’ only real in-house option at FS, unless the new DC plans to re-sign Branch and move him to FS.
Not sure Chekwa is ready to be a starter at FS, though.
January 9th, 2012 at 1:31 pm
Lmaoooo… All as inconsistent as Huff… That’s funny… But true
January 9th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
YA,
Why are you so against Huff at CB?
He was playing a lot of nickle and dime corner before he got hurt.
It was his best position in college.
We need a better tackler at FS.
I don’t see the problem.
January 9th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
Everyone should look at Iowa State CB Leonard Johnson in the draft.
Not sure if he’ll be there at pick #97, but he was the only CB in college football to shut down Blackmon, and he did it in man coverage. Impressive.
January 9th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
In Huffs defense in think he was hurt most of the year …I know he was always mentioned in the IR
January 9th, 2012 at 1:34 pm
J Hill Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
YA,
Why are you so against Huff at CB?
He was playing a lot of nickle and dime corner before he got hurt.
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Yes, and getting repeatedly burnt on quick slants.
Not aggressive enough or instinctual enough for CB.
January 9th, 2012 at 1:36 pm
We need a better tackler at FS.
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Agreed. Not sure where the Raiders will find one.
I’m open to suggestions here. I don’t see any better options than Huff.
January 9th, 2012 at 1:36 pm
Huff wasn’t the one getting burnt in coverage this past season.
The one knock on him is his tackling in run support.
January 9th, 2012 at 1:36 pm
1486.J Hill Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
Dakota,
What’s the holdup with Howard coming to LA mayne?!?!?
You think Buss Jr is vetoing Mitch’s offer of Bynum and 2 picks?
You think Orlando’s insisting on Caracter being added to the deal is holding it up?
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Kobe doesn’t want to win anymore. He wants to go back to losing. he didn’t think he gave it a fair shot back in 05-06-07.
January 9th, 2012 at 1:39 pm
J Hill Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 1:36 pm
Huff wasn’t the one getting burnt in coverage this past season.
The one knock on him is his tackling in run support.
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Gave up several 3rd downs on quick slants while he was seeing time at CB.
The knock on him is that he is soft. Doesn’t play aggressive, probably because he doesn’t have good enough instincts to allow him to do so. Isn’t strong enough to press, either.
January 9th, 2012 at 1:41 pm
Huff’s value is that he can play both S and CB adequately enough. Plugging him in at starting CB diminishes Huff’s value to the defense.
And it’s especially asinine considering the move was made without even having a defensive coordinator on staff.
January 9th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
The one knock on him is his tackling in run support.
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But he took out Adrian Peterson! Lol
January 9th, 2012 at 1:45 pm
1486.J Hill Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
Dakota,
What’s the holdup with Howard coming to LA mayne?!?!?
You think Buss Jr is vetoing Mitch’s offer of Bynum and 2 picks?
You think Orlando’s insisting on Caracter being added to the deal is holding it up?
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I did read one report that Orlando doesn’t want to trade Howard before the All-Star game because it is in their house.
I don’t know.
January 9th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
I will agree with you that it would be nice to know what the new DC thinks about Huff moving to corner.
January 9th, 2012 at 1:57 pm
Michael Huff at CB…….lmfao.
Too funny. Good one Hue!
January 9th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
The spin on McKenzie is he can evaluate talent: who can and can not play. The first order of business on the defense-find players who know how to tackle and are fundamentally sound. It was disturbing to see the piss/poor arm tackling, the olay defense, or trying to launch into the ball carrier like some jet missle to get on ESPN for the “big hit” instead of wrapping up the ball carrier and driving through and putting their ass on the ground. The other issue has to do with fundamentals: stay in your gap, play your position and stop committing just plain stupid penalties. How many times did the d-line jump off sides when they are looking dead at the center or have to commit a personal foul right in front of the ref. Bring in solid tacklers, fundamentally sound players with at least an ounce of intelligence.
January 9th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 9:49 am
Method to My Madness Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 9:48 am
Buddy of mine tells me Hue is out. He is correct 90% of the time….couldn’t be happier.
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Who is this buddy, and where would he be getting his info from?
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Probably the Raiders assistant who handed Reggie DVD’s of the season. Half way thru the 3rd quarter of the Buff game I am sure you could hear a “Jesus H. Christ” that shook the building. Then the beatdown by NE just sealed it.
January 9th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
Welcome to the off season Raiders Blog..NO this is not a Lakers blog but you may find many here talking about the Lakers….even though we have a basketball team here called the Warriors…..I know its confusing but I would guess they have no other place to opine.
January 9th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
And it’s especially asinine considering the move was made without even having a defensive coordinator on staff.
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Hue thought he was Al Davis.
January 9th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
Have we cut Stanford the flag machine Routt yet?
January 9th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
“The first order of business on the defense-find players who know how to tackle and are fundamentally sound.”
You said a mouthful there!
sloppy tackling, the inability to shed blocks, taking bad angles and missed gap assignments pretty much sums up our defense.
Now what is so funny about this is some here will blame scheme…..really scheme……please tell me what scheme works well with sloppy tackling? NONE!
January 9th, 2012 at 2:08 pm
1593.Silverandblack666 Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
Welcome to the off season Raiders Blog..NO this is not a Lakers blog but you may find many here talking about the Lakers….even though we have a basketball team here called the Warriors…..I know its confusing but I would guess they have no other place to opine.
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We Laker-Raider fans simply value one another’s opinions and can find a better brand of sports talk in this football blog than on a b-ball blog.
You should join us. I think you would be a decent Laker fan!
January 9th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
@Dakota
Got a good one for you. My friend I went to school with married Pamela Freeze, David Freeze’s sister (Cardinals). Well he is a die-hard Cubs fan and refused to go to the world series b/c he hates the Cardinals so much. He did do a behind the scenes Stadium tour, but he was decked head to toe in Cubs gear.
January 9th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
1595.aig-raiders Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
Have we cut Stanford the flag machine Routt yet?
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I have been trying to come up for a decent name for Routt, but I can’t fit in all his issues….best I can do is:
Stanford Over Paid TD Giver Upper Flag Machine Routt.
Just does not flow like Slowlando McLazy, or JaWalrus, or Farglass…or the Wife Beating Buffoon….
January 9th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
“The first order of business on the defense-find players who know how to tackle and are fundamentally sound.”
You said a mouthful there!
sloppy tackling, the inability to shed blocks, taking bad angles and missed gap assignments pretty much sums up our defense.
Now what is so funny about this is some here will blame scheme…..really scheme……please tell me what scheme works well with sloppy tackling? NONE!
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gotta agree with triple 6 here. Fans keep blaming the defensive scheme and Bresnahan but I sure noticed New Orleans WR’s running down the seam with the Detroit MLB trailing in the 2 Deep, just like with us. And Jim Schwarz worked with Bellichik on defense, was a defensive coordinator for 6 years in Tenn and has Gunther Cunningham as his DC with him and he has 30 years in the league. Maybe getting some points in the 4th quarter would have been a better answer.
January 9th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
1598.DutchRaider77 Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
@Dakota
Got a good one for you. My friend I went to school with married Pamela Freeze, David Freeze’s sister (Cardinals). Well he is a die-hard Cubs fan and refused to go to the world series b/c he hates the Cardinals so much. He did do a behind the scenes Stadium tour, but he was decked head to toe in Cubs gear.
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Good for him! Fk the Cards!
January 9th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
Has Chuck Bresnahan been fired yet?
January 9th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
“gotta agree with triple 6 here. Fans keep blaming the defensive scheme and Bresnahan but I sure noticed New Orleans WR’s running down the seam with the Detroit MLB trailing in the 2 Deep, just like with us. And Jim Schwarz worked with Bellichik on defense, was a defensive coordinator for 6 years in Tenn and has Gunther Cunningham as his DC with him and he has 30 years in the league. Maybe getting some points in the 4th quarter would have been a better answer”
Also Megatron put up over 200 yards of receiving and 2 TD’s against the Saints on Saturday and they could not contain him no matter what they tried……sound familiar…the Saint’s got torched by Megatron just like we did and they could be going to the Super Bowl!!!!
We are not that far off as some would think.
January 9th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
How about Stanford “Run Your Routt” in my direction Mr. wide receiver.
January 9th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
“We Laker-Raider fans simply value one another’s opinions and can find a better brand of sports talk in this football blog than on a b-ball blog.
You should join us. I think you would be a decent Laker fan!”
I might do that…Dakota send me an email.
January 9th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
Cut Routt because he is a decent #2 corner instead of an elite #1?
Who’s going to replace him?
January 9th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
Contracts will have to be re worked in order to bring in decent talent
on the D
to many guys getting paid on D that don’t produce
January 9th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
last season, Stevie Brown was told he would be the starting free safety, so I wouldn’t put too much into the report that Huff is moving to corner;
DVD, Chekwa, or another DB could win the position outright;
Huff and other D players best hope they have a job with the Raiders let alone a starting position
January 9th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
Reggie McKenzie is in Oakland right now reviewing the Raider organization…..changes are coming boys, changes are coming in a big way!
I, for one, am totally psyched!
I would love it if McKenzie threw Herrera out on his azz.
January 9th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
Q: #1606
A: Our sixth round draft choice.
January 9th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
Reggie McKenzie fired Kennard McGuire. just signed on with Drew Rosenhaus
#Raiders
24 minutes ago
January 9th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
I would love it if McKenzie threw Herrera out on his azz.
Amen!
even more so than Breshnahan and all over paid players combined
January 9th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
The revisionist are scrambling. Please Palmer was brought in to take us to the playoffs. We know the injury made it possible but it was mainly to keep the season from tanking & to continue the play off march. If you say otherwise you are bring dishonest.
My goodness is it really that difficult to admit that Palmer didn’t deliver the goods?
Maybe he can turn it around next year. He better or we will be in full rebuilding mode with Pryor, & hue jack will be out of a job
January 9th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
Stanford Wrong Routt
January 9th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
McKenzie was hired on the fifth, on the sixth we added QB Bomar, DE Davis and DB Taylor. Keep an eye on these studs!
January 9th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
Cut Routt if he will not take a pay cut to his proper salary level…..how much do you may a guy who had as many penalties as another team’s entire defense?
$1
January 9th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
Has Chuck Bresnahan been fired yet?
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why is everybody so eager to fire a guy 1 week before his contract expires?
(stupid. no?)
January 9th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
My goodness is it really that difficult to admit that Palmer didn’t deliver the goods?
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JC has taken exactly 0 teams to the playoffs……but I am sure in your mind he has delivered the goods lol.
January 9th, 2012 at 2:24 pm
I would love it if McKenzie threw Herrera out on his azz.
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1. Yup that should be the first order of the day. NO more embarrassing crap out of that idiot.
2. Eliminate our scholarship program for the players.
As for Routt, yes cut him. Even as a number 2 he will give up first downs from flags. On top of that, dude is a major liability in the redzone as I have proved last month. 17 flags and 5 TDs in the redzone is unacceptable for any 1st, 2nd, 3rd, or 4th db on any roster.
January 9th, 2012 at 2:26 pm
I love DVD & Chekwa & I give credit to Woodson. I saw these two raw talents improve on the feild & they were Woodson picks. I’m not certain I want to lump Woodson in with chuck. The DBS were not very talented once DVD & Chekwa were hurt. These two are keepers, & Woodson should get a do over
January 9th, 2012 at 2:26 pm
I would love it if McKenzie threw Herrera out on his azz.
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Yes Sir!!
January 9th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
Cut Routt if he will not take a pay cut to his proper salary level…..how much do you may a guy who had as many penalties as another team’s entire defense?
$1
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agreed again. 17 flags mean 17 drives extended over the season.
January 9th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
Dude, I need to proof these posts…..that is bad!
January 9th, 2012 at 2:28 pm
1613,word is youre next son will be named Carson,is that true?
January 9th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
DVD = Trash. Another overrated Al Davis pet project.
dude couldnt even retain the starting spot on his sorry Miami team.
January 9th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
I just read that the first thing McKenzie did when he entered the Raiders facility today was drop a towel on the floor and wait for Herrera to wipe his shoes off.
Guess he really did learn something from Al!
January 9th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
(stupid. no?)
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Sums up about 90% of the comments on here.
January 9th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
We are not that far off as some would think.
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THIS was the year to prove that. Denver went from the consensus cellar dweller to divisional playoffs. KC was playing very well at the end. So was SD. We were playing .200 ball at the end when it mattered. I don’t know how close that makes us.
January 9th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
Woodson may not have liked coaching and who could blame him. I’m hoping McKenzie puts him on his staff in some capacity.
January 9th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
aig-raiders Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
DVD = Trash. Another overrated Al Davis pet project.
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Gotta go with mistic on this one. I thought DVD played pretty well all things considered.
January 9th, 2012 at 2:33 pm
1629.Twocents Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
Woodson may not have liked coaching and who could blame him. I’m hoping McKenzie puts him on his staff in some capacity.
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Scout? He should know if a guy can play CB or Safety, since he did both…..and did both very well.
January 9th, 2012 at 2:33 pm
@1628 it makes a few injuries away from ending all this damn Teblow talk!
January 9th, 2012 at 2:33 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
Reggie McKenzie fired Kennard McGuire. just signed on with Drew Rosenhaus
#Raiders
24 minutes ago
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are you serious
January 9th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
The revisionist are scrambling. Please Palmer was brought in to take us to the playoffs. We know the injury made it possible but it was mainly to keep the season from tanking & to continue the play off march. If you say otherwise you are bring dishonest.
My goodness is it really that difficult to admit that Palmer didn’t deliver the goods?
Maybe he can turn it around next year. He better or we will be in full rebuilding mode with Pryor, & hue jack will be out of a job
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Palmer was brought in to play well, but that move was really for 2012, as Pryor was for 2014. Of course he can turn it around with a full camp, OTA’s and familiarity with his receivers (many of whom were injured in that crucial 2-3 game stretch)
You think Palmer would’ve lost those games if DMC were in the line-up?
GTFO here….
January 9th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
In DVD’s limited playing time it seemed he was always right on his guy, but the passes were almost always completed lol. I think he can learn how to read the WR and make a play on the ball.
Would hate to watch him try and tackle a RB though.
January 9th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
I don’t know how close that makes us.
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We’re not even close on defense. Our O is fine. But our D is wayyyy off. Let’s start with the LB corp. A bunch of misfits.
1. Wimbley, McClain, and Curry. Compared to the Niners LB corp, we’re not even close. The only brand name guy they got is Willis and he hardly play this year. Wimbley is a situational pass rusher and that’s it. I like Curry but dude is a huge liability in coverage. McClain? What exactly does he do well? I have no idea.
2. Backfield? 17 flags on one side and another guy on the other side that nobody wanted (Lito).
Reggie has his work cut out for him. Winston Moss baby!!!!
January 9th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
1613.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
The revisionist are scrambling. Please Palmer was brought in to take us to the playoffs. We know the injury made it possible but it was mainly to keep the season from tanking & to continue the play off march. If you say otherwise you are bring dishonest.
My goodness is it really that difficult to admit that Palmer didn’t deliver the goods?
Maybe he can turn it around next year. He better or we will be in full rebuilding mode with Pryor, & hue jack will be out of a job
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2 down, 98 to go.
January 9th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
“Hendu Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 2:28 pm
1613,word is youre next son will be named Carson,is that true?”
LMFAO damn that’s funny!
January 9th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
In DVD’s limited playing time it seemed he was always right on his guy, but the passes were almost always completed lol. I think he can learn how to read the WR and make a play on the ball.
Would hate to watch him try and tackle a RB though.
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Dude needs to hit the weight room, combine bench was 225 X 3.
January 9th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
Hue Jackson should and will keep his position as the Raiders Head coach. Yes, he made a number of mistakes but remember this was his first year.Secondly we need to keep some coaching continuity while we bring in a new defensive co-ordinator who will most likely bring with him a 3-4 defensive scheme.
Thirdly, it was not Jackson’s fault that Al Davis brought in a puppet like Breshnahan as his defensive co-ordinator. In fact, the offense was improving as players made it back off the injury list. The biggest problem was our defense who were destroyed in the final game of the season when they couldn’t get off the field. Jackson was an improvement over Tom Cable and should learn from some of his mistakes he made.
Before the year I felt we were an 8-8 squad. We were 4-2 before the Jason Campbell injury which stopped us in our tracks while thetrade for Palmer materialized. With a full off season of conditioning and the signing of our free agents and limited draft picks we should improvenext year to 10-6
January 9th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
Gotta go with mistic on this one. I thought DVD played pretty well all things considered.
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Please remind me of plays where #23 did well this year? I can’t. Passes were completed on him at will and he didnt even get on the field when healthy at the end of the season.
January 9th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
“2 down, 98 to go.”
He will get to 100 before the day is over I would bet on it!
Way to keep track its damn funny!
January 9th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
AIG,we are closer than you give us credit for.In many games we totally shut down the other team for at least half the game.Then their offensives made adjustments and we were screwed.
January 9th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
Denver had a rookie DB that intercepted Ben yesterday. That rookie PLAYED in the playoff and made plays. Now that is called potential. Our DVD allowed plays to be made on him at will but some think he got potential. Just go to show how far off we are in our expectation.
January 9th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
Where is that Ernie looking mutha fcker Kell at?
January 9th, 2012 at 2:45 pm
RaiderSam …agree…I don’t see Hue Jackson going just yet …. Unless McKenzie has an upgrade already on the hook….same with Palmer… McKenzie is gonna give Palmer every opportunity he can to succeed …. Especially for the price Hue paid for Palmer ….
January 9th, 2012 at 2:45 pm
Dakota Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
In DVD’s limited playing time it seemed he was always right on his guy,
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Sounds like a good start for a rookie, wouldn’t you say?
Imagine getting this kid a real DC!
January 9th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
Just heard Doug flutie on the radio & he said the same thing I have told some of these blog morons. They were discussing tebow & used a descriptive code word, “unconventional”. Flutie flakes says ” if an unconventional qb doesn’t win right away his shot at starting & career are pretty much done”. He compared guys like manning & aikman that lost & made a ton of mistakes early but were given plenty of rope. Eric Davis agreed, as do I.
There are clear double standards in play when discussing qbs. It’s is why palmer quits on the bungles & people blame the bungles, Vince young storms off after a game & he is vilified & branded a quiter & a nut job.
Don’t take my word for it, the guys who play the game say so as well.
January 9th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
Hue and Kell will be selling houses together in a couple of weeks….those two ugly fckers deserve each other
January 9th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
Easiest way to stop the penalty problem? Get players who can think, not just athletes, but players who have high football I.Q.s……enough with the “you can’t teach speed” mentality around here.
January 9th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
lefty,
I dont know man. We got a bunch of misfits and our D got exposed the 2nd half of the season. Maybe I am still ticked at the team and maybe a new DC can work his magic. But we have seen the same darn thing year in and out for the past 9 yrs. Can’t stop the run and stupid penalties in the backfield.
January 9th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
We need fast guys…we need strong guys…coaches are supposed to get players prepared….Hue Jack aint doing it
January 9th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
1638,Silverandblack666,HaHa,think that we all get to serious at times,love this blog tho,keep comin back for more,cuz of the Raiders!
January 9th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
666,
At least he’s consistent, lol.
Bill Clinton won his first election in part from some great advice from James Carville. Carville’s master stroke? “It’s the economy, stupid.”
To paraphrase Carville; “It’s the defense, stupid.”
No offense intended to anyone, just thought if we were going to boil it down to the REAL main issue we might as well be somewhat accurate about it.
January 9th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
Tebow threw 30 and 32 TDs in his Sophomore and Jr. years at Florida. People get surprised when he completes the deep pass on them. How in the heck did he get his 62 passing TDs in 2 seasons? If he sucked so bad at passing, how did Murphy and Hernandez get their productions?
January 9th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
1649,but whos riding shotgun?
January 9th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
AIG,
Well, we all know how Murphy gets his production….from Pfizer, Inc.
January 9th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
We could without a doubt get a lot better,but we have shown at times we can get it done.Everyone has their ideas what is wrong.It will be interesting to see what McKenzie and HJ go after.I believe we need LBs-possibly all 3 need to be replaced.Some look at the DBs while others look at the line.Can’t wait to see what the powers that be think.
January 9th, 2012 at 2:53 pm
Shut up Aig……quit sucking Tebow’s dick
January 9th, 2012 at 2:53 pm
…I wouldn’t crown Tebow the next Elway just yet … He had 3 horrible games right on top of yesterday’s very good game… That’s the problem… Win one and the previous 3 horrible games were forgotten … Just like this blog… When we loss and you come to this blog it’s sounds like a bunch of agitated chimps …Donkey boys gonna have to be more consistent to be a football hero ..
January 9th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
Aig-Raiders stop slurping the Bronco’s QB schlong!
This is a RAIDERS blog not a Bronco’s blog
you are making us all sick with your Bronco QB talk!
January 9th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
Shebow couldn’t even beat the Chefs at home when it counted…..the guy aint nothing but a fraud
January 9th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
aig-raiders Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
I don’t know how close that makes us.
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We’re not even close on defense. Our O is fine. But our D is wayyyy off. Let’s start with the LB corp. A bunch of misfits.
1. Wimbley, McClain, and Curry. Compared to the Niners LB corp, we’re not even close. The only brand name guy they got is Willis and he hardly play this year. Wimbley is a situational pass rusher and that’s it. I like Curry but dude is a huge liability in coverage. McClain? What exactly does he do well? I have no idea.
2. Backfield? 17 flags on one side and another guy on the other side that nobody wanted (Lito).
Reggie has his work cut out for him. Winston Moss baby!!!!
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The Whiners have two very good LB’s in Navarro Bowman and Willis. Larry Grant came in and played very well for them as well.
I think you keep McClain for one more season to see if anything there develops. I do not have high hopes at all. I have been saying that Curry would be more suited inside. I still believe that.
January 9th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
1659 BINGO spot on!
January 9th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
If Teblow takes the Broncos to the SB and wins it, heck, or even just gets there, I am going to church for the rest of the year just in case 2012 really is the End of Days….
January 9th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
666
January 9th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
Blog Warrior,
Having trouble handling the truth?
January 9th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
Aig…take that sht to Dungver where it belongs..you and Bayless must be phaggots together
January 9th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
Actually Murphy didn’t have great production at Florida which is why we got him in a later round.
January 9th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
Cut the spoiled quitter DMAC!
January 9th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
Seymour,
Willis missed 4 games to end the season and they hardly missed a beat without him. The point is why are they able to find good LBs while we suck every year at that position. It’s because we drafted athletes and they drafted football players.
January 9th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
I wonder if Tebow would turn down a pain shot and fk his team?
January 9th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
KEEP HUE AS OUR HEAD COACH:
1. Chris in NY
2. Bob Marley
3. Raider Duck
4. Daraider09
5. JB
6. Exlaraiderseasonticketholder
7. 8RaiderReign8
8. RaiderSam
WOULD HAVE NO PROBLEM IF REGGIE DECIDES TO CAN HUE:
1. Raider O
2. Method to My Madness
3. VanHeathen
4. Raiderbuck
5. RaiderRockstar
6. Dr. Hunter S. Thompson
7. R8dercain
8. Young American
9. Hwnrdr
10. MistaBrown
11. Jesusraiderjim
12. Plunketthead
Who else did I miss? Let’s go on record. When Hue leads us to 12-4 next season I’ll dust it off, just for kicks.
January 9th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
Oh dear blog warrior tough guy,
It seems you’re having trouble dealing with reality. Now go drink more booze.
January 9th, 2012 at 3:00 pm
1670.Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
Cut the spoiled quitter DMAC!
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Shut down that cheating Mich football program! I am sure they shower with kids too. Wait, so do the priests at ND…..never mind.
January 9th, 2012 at 3:00 pm
It will be interesting to hear Reggie’s vision for the team tomorrow. Anyone expecting any other announcements? Loved those overhead projector comments. LOL
January 9th, 2012 at 3:01 pm
Add me to the keep Hue
January 9th, 2012 at 3:01 pm
Denver had a rookie DB that intercepted Ben yesterday. That rookie PLAYED in the playoff and made plays. Now that is called potential.
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A safety who had the ball thrown right to him?
The same rookie safety who was getting trashed since replaceing Dawkins?
I guess everyone is entitled to their opinion.
January 9th, 2012 at 3:01 pm
lefty12 Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
We could without a doubt get a lot better,but we have shown at times we can get it done.Everyone has their ideas what is wrong.It will be interesting to see what McKenzie and HJ go after.I believe we need LBs-possibly all 3 need to be replaced.Some look at the DBs while others look at the line.Can’t wait to see what the powers that be think.
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There is an expression in defense and that your secondary is only as good as your pass rush and your pass rush is only as good as your secondary. There is NO DOUBT the dline wore down the last quarter of the season. And this was supposed to be rectified by constantly rotating guys in and out. The loss of Shaunnessy and then Henderson hurt. Jarvis Moss just plain wore out and Trevor Scott obviously retired before the season began.
January 9th, 2012 at 3:01 pm
Does anybody have a link to free agents that might make a difference of this team.
January 9th, 2012 at 3:01 pm
Aig…..you can meet me anytime….bring Shebow with you….I could kick both y’all asses
January 9th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
Yo fools:
JC or CP can never take us to the Superbowl: JC being a mediocre and dispassionate schulb, also known as a good “game manager”; and CP being aged and past his prime, with a lack of fire to win.
CP, in his 9 seasons, has only rushed for 336 yds and 6 TD’s. On the other hand, Rich Gannon, in his 1st 4 seasons with the Raiders, including the 2002 Superbowl run, rushed for 1370 yds and 11 TDs.
Football success depends on a mobile QB who can scramble. I am not advocating a Vick type running QB, but only a QB who can pick up enough 1st downs to create a 12 man for which defenses have no answer. This attribute CP lacks totally; besides the fact that CP lacks mobility he reminds me of a blowing pin in the pocket: set up to be knocked down. He throws at the worst times when he should avoiding sacks or scrambling for 1st downs. Is it any wonder his interception ratio was horrific, and caused the loss of at least 5 games?
Now then, Hue Jackson should have perceived what I stated above and not mortgaged our immediate future to acquire CP. The loss of Campbell wasn’t much; if Boller had stepped in our win/loss record would have been the same with or without CP.
The fact is, Hue knew the Raiders were no playoff team and admitted as much based on the Buffalo game. Yet, discarding the truth, Hue made a terrible deal with the Bengals for CP. No other team negotiated with the Bengals the entire year and into the season, and Hue, knowing the Raiders weren’t playoff bound, sold the farm for CP.
Besides Hue’s other negative attributes, fully documented within this blog time and again evidencing the fact that he lacks football savvy, Hue also lacks the basic intelligence and common sense to be a head coach in the NFL.
A final note: when the Raiders were being blown out in 4 of our last 5 games, why didn’t Hue insert Terrel Pryor when there was everything to gain and nothing to lose? In the worst case, Pryor could have taken valuable experience, while demonstrating his current and potential abilities.
McKenzie needs to make a clean sweep and dismiss Jackson.
January 9th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
Y’all wnat to Blame Hue?
How many games would Vince Lomabardi have won if Bart Starr sat out the season whenever he got a booboo?
January 9th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
Lefty,
Murphy got enough to get drafted in the mid rounds in the NFL right? 5 and 7 tds for his last 2 seasons. If his QB can’t throw, then who got him those receiving TDs? My point is why are people surprised that Tebow can complete the deep pass in the nfl? Dude did it at Florida 62 times in a 2 years span.
January 9th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
AIG,it is kind of funny when you bring up the football player/athlete argument.Look at Gio this past year.He isn’t a burner.He is an avg. athlete.He was the one guy on the defensive side of the ball who made game changing plays with some regularity,yet most on here want him gone.
January 9th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
Shut down that cheating Mich football program! I am sure they shower with kids too. Wait, so do the priests at ND…..never mind.
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LMAO! You KNOW Lou Holtz has got some Sandusky in him…
January 9th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
FreddieB Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 3:00 pm
It will be interesting to hear Reggie’s vision for the team tomorrow. Anyone expecting any other announcements? Loved those overhead projector comments. LOL
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I don’t expect any big announcements from Reggie tomorrow. I think it’ll be general stuff about his background, playing for the Raiders, filling Al Davis’ shoes, general opinion of the roster, philosophy,etc.
I would expect he’ll deflect the questions about Hue, Breshnahan and specific players for now. Would be shocking to see him make those announcements at his introductory press conference when they can be made later without springing it on the media and having to immediately answer any unanticipated questions.
There could still be some reading between the lines though. And if it’s already been decided that Hue’s the man that’s the one major announcements we might see tomorrow.
January 9th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
You can add me to the ” have no problem if McKenzie fires Hue….. List”…
If the GM can’t work with Hue nothing else is gonna matter…
My opinion is that Hue will keep his job for at least another year… But that’s not my call … And if the GM doesn’t want Hue then Bye Hue
January 9th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
Oh Dear Blog Warrior,
Like that one time you promised to show up at Ricky’s and didnt? I know you’re a tough guy. The toughest MOFO there is on this blog. We are so blessed to have you here. The ground shakes when you walk the Coliseum. I know I know.
….Napolean Complex much????
January 9th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
Wow, didn’t phrase that very well…
January 9th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
I’d suspect McKenzie already knows if Hues staying or going ….
January 9th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
1676.FreddieB Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 3:00 pm
It will be interesting to hear Reggie’s vision for the team tomorrow. Anyone expecting any other announcements? Loved those overhead projector comments. LOL
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Wouldn’t you guys schyt if Reggie McKenzie fired up the overhead projector and proceeded to “for cause” Hue’s azz, and then say McClain is a great MLBer, get over it, and then call McDonald “Jer” and name Sanjay Lal the new HC, and get caught asking Herrera for some background info on that Sammy Law guy he just named HC, and then talk about the greatness of the 1970s Raiders for the final 20 minutes of the Presser….all the while chomping on KFC Slaw and cheeseburgers?
Someone call an exorcist!
January 9th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
Aig = Averything in Gizz
January 9th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
And call Mortensen and Lance both professional liars.
January 9th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
Dakota Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
1676.FreddieB Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 3:00 pm
It will be interesting to hear Reggie’s vision for the team tomorrow. Anyone expecting any other announcements? Loved those overhead projector comments. LOL
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Wouldn’t you guys schyt if Reggie McKenzie fired up the overhead projector and proceeded to “for cause” Hue’s azz, and then say McClain is a great MLBer, get over it, and then call McDonald “Jer” and name Sanjay Lal the new HC, and get caught asking Herrera for some background info on that Sammy Law guy he just named HC, and then talk about the greatness of the 1970s Raiders for the final 20 minutes of the Presser….all the while chomping on KFC Slaw and cheeseburgers?
Someone call an exorcist!
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You are too damn funny Dakota.
January 9th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
Dakota …. Lmaoooo… Yes I would…. ( overhead projector)…
January 9th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
Hey did Lance ever get his severance cash? Or Shanarat?
I bet Al was VERY precise about these issues in his will.
January 9th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
lefty12 Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
AIG,it is kind of funny when you bring up the football player/athlete argument.Look at Gio this past year.He isn’t a burner.He is an avg. athlete.He was the one guy on the defensive side of the ball who made game changing plays with some regularity,yet most on here want him gone.
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Nailed it. He was the only guy with fooball IQ back there besides Branch. I was on here yapping about Routt’s weakness on the slant in the redzone. The Chiefs tried that and Bowe dropped it. Sure enough Gio rolled underneath 2 plays later and he intercepted one against the Chiefs.
January 9th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
Professional speed is necessary, buring speed is not. Talent is critical. Look at DHB: blazing speed but little “football” talent. Got him many yards, but little glory since he dropped balls or missed catches, at the exact wrong time, which led to loss of games.
January 9th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
There are no dumb players…only dumb coaches
January 9th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
“if Boller had stepped in our win/loss record would have been the same with or without CP.”
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This could not be further from the truth. Boller sucked waaaayyy worse the CP. Boller is the reason for CP’s first 3 ints.
January 9th, 2012 at 3:10 pm
KEEP HUE AS OUR HEAD COACH:
1. Chris in NY
2. Bob Marley
3. Raider Duck
4. Daraider09
5. JB
6. Exlaraiderseasonticketholder
7. 8RaiderReign8
8. RaiderSam
9. 18yearsold18yearraiderfan
WOULD HAVE NO PROBLEM IF REGGIE DECIDES TO CAN HUE:
1. Raider O
2. Method to My Madness
3. VanHeathen
4. Raiderbuck
5. RaiderRockstar
6. Dr. Hunter S. Thompson
7. R8dercain
8. Young American
9. Hwnrdr
10. MistaBrown
11. Jesusraiderjim
12. Plunketthead
13. Fingers
January 9th, 2012 at 3:10 pm
who has reggie mckenzie drafted ?
January 9th, 2012 at 3:10 pm
# Chris in NY Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
KEEP HUE AS OUR HEAD COACH:
1. Chris in NY
2. Bob Marley
3. Raider Duck
4. Daraider09
5. JB
6. Exlaraiderseasonticketholder
7. 8RaiderReign8
8. RaiderSam
WOULD HAVE NO PROBLEM IF REGGIE DECIDES TO CAN HUE:
1. Raider O
2. Method to My Madness
3. VanHeathen
4. Raiderbuck
5. RaiderRockstar
6. Dr. Hunter S. Thompson
7. R8dercain
8. Young American
9. Hwnrdr
10. MistaBrown
11. Jesusraiderjim
12. Plunketthead
Who else did I miss? Let’s go on record. When Hue leads us to 12-4 next season I’ll dust it off, just for kicks.
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One more year of Hue to make the playoffs or get out
January 9th, 2012 at 3:10 pm
AIG I said he didn’t have GREAT production,not that he wasn’t productive,and that is why we were able to get him in the later rounds.If he had great numbers,he probably would have went earlier.That was my point.
January 9th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
That’t’s funny…. Cheeseburgers and Cole slaw for everybody…
January 9th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
Add me to the Would Have No Problem list.
January 9th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
Chuckie had two years of 8-8,Hue should get a 2nd year,period.If he takes the Raiders to the playoffs,and good luck with that schedule,he will stay,pretty simple!
January 9th, 2012 at 3:12 pm
Hue has already proven he can’t coach
January 9th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
KEEP HUE AS OUR HEAD COACH:
1. Chris in NY
2. Bob Marley
3. Raider Duck
4. Daraider09
5. JB
6. Exlaraiderseasonticketholder
7. 8RaiderReign8
8. RaiderSam
9. 18yearsold18yearraiderfan
10. Raidertalk
11. Hendu
WOULD HAVE NO PROBLEM IF REGGIE DECIDES TO CAN HUE:
1. Raider O
2. Method to My Madness
3. VanHeathen
4. Raiderbuck
5. RaiderRockstar
6. Dr. Hunter S. Thompson
7. R8dercain
8. Young American
9. Hwnrdr
10. MistaBrown
11. Jesusraiderjim
12. Plunketthead
13. Fingers
14. Dakota
January 9th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
Ok lefty.
January 9th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
Ok… Time to burn a fatty … See y’all later…
January 9th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
I took heat the other night because I stated that McKenzie would be in charge all football operations. The common refrain was “Oh no, we don’t want another Al Davis.”
Al was a problem because he could not be fired, he went on a binge, trying to prove that he was still the “genius”.
McKenzie is going to have as much say as Al did in the football side but he will be accountable. I will bet my left nut he succeeds.
January 9th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
A little Q & A on a Monday!
Q- How do you starve a Ohbama supporter ?
A- Hide their food stamps under their work shoes.
January 9th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
MB, that is some funny sht!
January 9th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
# Method To My Madness Says:
January 8th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
Tebow is always gonna be in the playoffs while the lame Raiders sit at home on their butts PERIOD!!!!
January 9th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
Chris,can someone be on both lists?I’d say he stays but would have no problem if McKenzie decided to go with his own guy.
January 9th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
Chris,
Put me in the keep Hue column. This is of course assuming that Reggie and Hue can work together. No more disfunction between the GM/Owner and the HC. Weve been there.
January 9th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
MB, that joke is going to hit hard in here…guys like Aig and Mistic and Kell living off the government teet
January 9th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
# lefty12 Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
AIG,we are no closer than you give us credit for.In many games we got totally shut down by the other team for at least half the game.Then their offensives made adjustments and we were screwed.
January 9th, 2012 at 3:19 pm
Sad, but true.
Speaking of food stamps & Ohbama where is KK Munster and MR? On their honeymoon ?
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Method to My Madness Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
MB, that is some funny sht!
January 9th, 2012 at 3:19 pm
# MistaBrown Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
Tebow.
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Silverandblack666 Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
Please can we all just make a gentlemen’s agreement here that we will not mention the name of the Bornco’s QB anymore I am about to lose my freshly eaten lunch if see that f@ckers name in here one more time!!!!
THIS IS NOT A RAIDERS BLOG IT IS A DENVER BLOG!!!!
January 9th, 2012 at 3:20 pm
Lefty, I think that would place you would be on the bottom list…..
January 9th, 2012 at 3:20 pm
raidertalk Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 3:10 pm
# Chris in NY Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
KEEP HUE AS OUR HEAD COACH:
1. Chris in NY
2. Bob Marley
3. Raider Duck
4. Daraider09
5. JB
6. Exlaraiderseasonticketholder
7. 8RaiderReign8
8. RaiderSam
WOULD HAVE NO PROBLEM IF REGGIE DECIDES TO CAN HUE:
1. Raider O
2. Method to My Madness
3. VanHeathen
4. Raiderbuck
5. RaiderRockstar
6. Dr. Hunter S. Thompson
7. R8dercain
8. Young American
9. Hwnrdr
10. MistaBrown
11. Jesusraiderjim
12. Plunketthead
Who else did I miss? Let’s go on record. When Hue leads us to 12-4 next season I’ll dust it off, just for kicks.
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One more year of Hue to make the playoffs or get out
…..
You can put me in the “would have no problem” list.
I want a veteran coach that has been there and done that to come in and bring accountability and discipline to this squad.
Al is gone and the Raiders have a new GM. Time to start Building a Professional Organization.
The thing that bothers me most about Hue is the fact he admitted to the media that he had no clue how to fix the penalty issues. He even said “if anyone has an ideal then share it with me.”
If he can’t figure that out on his own then he doesn’t need to be a HC.
January 9th, 2012 at 3:21 pm
# Method to My Madness Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
There are no dumb players on other teams…no dumb coaches on other teams only the Raiders have both.
January 9th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
1723.Dakota Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 3:20 pm
Lefty, I think that would place you would be on the bottom list…..
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WTF? Okay, I am on my way to the emergency room, I am clearly having a stroke.
See you tomorrow…..maybe!
January 9th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
Obviously.
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Method to My Madness Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
MB, that joke is going to hit hard in here…guys like Aig and Mistic and Kell living off the government teet
January 9th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
Y’all wnat to Blame Hue?
How many games would Vince Lomabardi have won if Bart Starr sat out the season whenever he got a booboo?
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True, there needs to be a list who thinks DMAC has no heart to play injured and who thinks he really couldn’t play.
January 9th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
MistaBrown Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 3:19 pm
Sad, but true.
Speaking of food stamps & Ohbama where is KK Munster and MR? On their honeymoon ?
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Get a Life, you poor thing.
January 9th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
Dakota…has Korn ever played at the Corn palace?
January 9th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
# Method to My Madness Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
Tebow is the best football player I’ve ever seen!!
January 9th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
8RaiderReign8 Says: 1701
“This could not be further from the truth. Boller sucked waaaayyy worse the CP. Boller is the reason for CP’s first 3 ints.”
RaiderReign, can you please elaborate regarding your comment ?
Truthfully, I don’t care about CP one way or another. If we had paid him $4M for a 2 yrs contract, voidable without pay in yr 2 based on yr 1 performance, with a 2nd round pick going to the Bengals in 2013, that would have been acceptable. But what Hue bargained for blows up the concept of “bargain”, meaning “bar-gain”; both sides to the deal receive somewhat equivalent consideration. Hue sold us out for the next 2 yrs.
Terrible: keep CP and fire HUe.
January 9th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
He also said he wished we could see the reports we get back from the league office each week.He also said we will continue to get penalties until we start winning consistently.Too bad we can’t see those reports.I bet they are very telling.
January 9th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
Raidertalk
If you are starting that list add me to the section that says DMAC is not tough enough to play with pain.
January 9th, 2012 at 3:25 pm
You know half the fks on this blog are collecting wellfare…..they obvisously dont have jobs….right Kell?
January 9th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 3:01 pm
Aig…..you can meet me anytime….bring Shebow with you….I could kick both y’all asses
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Get a Life, dumbass.
January 9th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
# Method to My Madness Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 2:53 pm
I’m through with the Raiders I’m supporting Tebow and the Broncos!!
January 9th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
Well,the morons and the kiddies are here.Later guys.
January 9th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
# fingers Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
TEBOW,TEBOW,TEBOW!!!!!!!!!!!!
January 9th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
KK-that wasn’t directed at you.
January 9th, 2012 at 3:28 pm
# Method to My Madness Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 3:25 pm
You know half the fks on this blog are collecting wellfare…..they obvisously dont have jobs….right cause that’s what I do.
January 9th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
Report: Packers told body of Michael Philbin has been identified
There’s been an update from the story we’ve been following out of Green Bay all day and, unfortunately, it is a sad one.
Jason Wilde of ESPN Wisconsin reported a short time ago that the Packers players have been told that the body of Michael Philbin, son of offensive coordinator Joe Philbin, has been identified. The younger Philbin had been reported missing after last being heard from at 2 a.m. on Sunday and authorities were searching around Oshkosh in hopes of finding him. A body was recovered earlier Monday in Oshkosh.
Our thoughts go out to the Philbin family and the larger Packer family at this time.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/09/report-packers-told-body-of-michael-philbin-has-been-identified/
January 9th, 2012 at 3:32 pm
# RaiderRockstar Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
Hue has not been kept. Its about time to bring back Cable and it always has been. He was hired with FULL CONTROL OF D. Thats how Al does it.I say we trade for Tebow!!!Get rid of DMAC!!
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LOL!
January 9th, 2012 at 3:33 pm
RealJRock2 Jamarcus Russell
At the Superdome to watch LSU win their 4th Championship.
14 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply…….Im going to fly to Nola and smack that jcat in the face
January 9th, 2012 at 3:33 pm
Kool “Cut and Paste” Kell…….lol…you don’t think none of read that site? Damn you a redundant jcat
January 9th, 2012 at 3:33 pm
Giants, Texans and Donkeys are showing the value of investing in the Defensive line position.
Always said it is the 2nd most important spot behind QB.
Our line is missing the edge speed rusher and the run-clogger (John Henderson was a flop BTW) and thus it is an incomplete unit.
January 9th, 2012 at 3:34 pm
DMAC has/had….
NO HEART:
1. Silverandblack666
2. Raidertalk
REALLY COULDN’T PLAY:
January 9th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
WOULD HAVE NO PROBLEM IF REGGIE DECIDES TO CAN HUE:
1. Raider O
2. Method to My Madness
3. VanHeathen
4. Raiderbuck
5. RaiderRockstar
6. Dr. Hunter S. Thompson
7. R8dercain
8. Young American
9. Hwnrdr
10. MistaBrown
11. Jesusraiderjim
12. Plunketthead
13. Fingers
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Fire Hue yesterday
January 9th, 2012 at 3:38 pm
Kell you need to be quiet…..you Ernie lookin welfare collectin no house sellin mutha fcker
January 9th, 2012 at 3:38 pm
So wonderful and different to have Raider Management you can believe in. Awesome.
Whatever the GM decides to do with HueJax, is alright with me.
I don’t have to worry about that schit anymore.
January 9th, 2012 at 3:39 pm
Fck you,troll mfer
January 9th, 2012 at 3:39 pm
Real JRock is his tweet handle?
should be Real J On The Rock…
Dang crackhead…
January 9th, 2012 at 3:40 pm
DMAC couldn’t play.
Idiots…
January 9th, 2012 at 3:40 pm
Good one VanHeathen!
January 9th, 2012 at 3:43 pm
1752.VanHeathen Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 3:39 pm
Real JRock is his tweet handle?
should be Real J On The Rock…
Dang crackhead…
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Classic
January 9th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
Man, my Acura just took a s*** all over itself.
So while it’s in the shop, the dealership gave me a loaner ZDX to ride around in for free. Awesome. I’m going to have fun tonight.
January 9th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
I think Bres proved he cant play.
January 9th, 2012 at 3:48 pm
Raidertalk Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 3:34 pm
DMAC has/had….
NO HEART:
1. Silverandblack666
2. Raidertalk
REALLY COULDN’T PLAY:
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DHB was hurt! Science is real!
January 9th, 2012 at 3:50 pm
LOL Chris
Who else did I miss? Let’s go on record. When Hue leads us to 12-4 next season I’ll dust it off, just for kicks.
January 9th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
12-4???
Most likely HJ leads us to 7-11…
oops, i mean A 7-11, that he’s working at.
January 9th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
It will be weird tomorrow watching a Raiders presser without Al. I wonder who will be running the show?
January 9th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
“Science is real!”
Then why are they not allowed to teach it in school?
Sarcasm
January 9th, 2012 at 3:59 pm
dvrick Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 3:32 pm
I dunno whats wrong but I have been like this as long as I can remember.
January 9th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
Y’all wnat to Blame Hue?
How many games would Vince Lomabardi have won if Bart Starr sat out the season whenever he got a booboo?
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Didn’t Jackson say “Next Guy Up”? I actually loved that. Problem was, again, as usual, it was all bluster. There are a myriad of stories of guys who were stocking shelves at the local grocery story and then became NFL stars. We didn’t IR Dmac, Henderson, Campbell, or DVD even tho none of those guys played the last few weeks and we needed help. If one of his guys couldn’t go something tells me Lombardi would have gotten someone else. Not walked to the podium with a clipboard full of excuses.
January 9th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
DMAC has/had….
NO HEART:
1. Silverandblack666
2. Raidertalk
REALLY COULDN’T PLAY
1. 8RaiderReign8
2. Daraider09
January 9th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
WOULD HAVE NO PROBLEM IF REGGIE DECIDES TO CAN HUE:
1. Raider O
2. Method to My Madness
3. VanHeathen
4. Raiderbuck
5. RaiderRockstar
6. Dr. Hunter S. Thompson
7. R8dercain
8. Young American
9. Hwnrdr
10. MistaBrown
11. Jesusraiderjim
12. Plunketthead
13. Fingers
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Fire Hue yesterday
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You can put me in the “I will got to Alameda and fire Jackson myself and help him clean out his office” category.
January 9th, 2012 at 4:14 pm
Well no word yet and Reggie has reportedly been in Alameda today meeting with the rank and file. I am so hoping Herrera gets fired and thrown into the fountain.
January 9th, 2012 at 4:14 pm
Method to My Madness Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
MB, that joke is going to hit hard in here…guys like Aig and Mistic and Kell living off the government teet
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The above comment came from the blog’s tough guy who admitted “he doesnt pay his taxes”. Who the eff is living off of who again? Pay your fair share of taxes and stop leeching off the rest of us moron.
January 9th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
But then again B doesnt make more than min wage so I guess he doesnt have to pay any tax.
January 9th, 2012 at 4:16 pm
Since NOBODY REALLY KNOWS what goes on behind the scenes in the Raiders organization, here’s my GUESS to go along with everyone else’s:
AL: Hue, you are my head coach.
Hue: Wow, thanks “Coach”!
AL: Don’t get so excited, kid. You will be the Head Coach. I am hiring Al Saunders as OC, but you can still call your own plays. You screw up and I give play-calling to him. Either way, you can say it is your idea. One thing. Keep your offensive-minded nose out of my defense. I will tell Bres how to run things. Period. Just like it has always been. Anything happens to me, Bres owns the defense. Keep your nose out of it. You got enough to worry about. Anything happens to me, my kid knows this is how I want it done.
So then Al passes on. Mark and Amy and Hue team up to try to keep things going. They agree when Campbell goes down that if Hue can pull something off via his ties with Cincy to get Palmer…might not be a bad idea. NOW is still possible.
By end of season, the defense has given up an AVERAGE of 35 points in the team’s 8 losses. How many HC’s – with a directive to stay out of the defense’s business – could have overcome THAT
January 9th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
jerry & steve shooting for 2,000 hits
January 9th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
nooooooooooooo, he’s back
January 9th, 2012 at 4:28 pm
i just posted this question on S&B pride:
Had Hue not made the trade for Palmer, would we even be considering not retaining him as head coach for another year?
January 9th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
1682.al d. davis Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
Yo fools:
JC or CP can never take us to the Superbowl: JC being a mediocre and dispassionate schulb, also known as a good “game manager”; and CP being aged and past his prime, with a lack of fire to win.
CP, in his 9 seasons, has only rushed for 336 yds and 6 TD’s. On the other hand, Rich Gannon, in his 1st 4 seasons with the Raiders, including the 2002 Superbowl run, rushed for 1370 yds and 11 TDs.
Football success depends on a mobile QB who can scramble. I am not advocating a Vick type running QB, but only a QB who can pick up enough 1st downs to create a 12 man for which defenses have no answer. This attribute CP lacks totally; besides the fact that CP lacks mobility he reminds me of a blowing pin in the pocket: set up to be knocked down. He throws at the worst times when he should avoiding sacks or scrambling for 1st downs. Is it any wonder his interception ratio was horrific, and caused the loss of at least 5 games?
Now then, Hue Jackson should have perceived what I stated above and not mortgaged our immediate future to acquire CP. The loss of Campbell wasn’t much; if Boller had stepped in our win/loss record would have been the same with or without CP.
The fact is, Hue knew the Raiders were no playoff team and admitted as much based on the Buffalo game. Yet, discarding the truth, Hue made a terrible deal with the Bengals for CP. No other team negotiated with the Bengals the entire year and into the season, and Hue, knowing the Raiders weren’t playoff bound, sold the farm for CP.
Besides Hue’s other negative attributes, fully documented within this blog time and again evidencing the fact that he lacks football savvy, Hue also lacks the basic intelligence and common sense to be a head coach in the NFL.
A final note: when the Raiders were being blown out in 4 of our last 5 games, why didn’t Hue insert Terrel Pryor when there was everything to gain and nothing to lose? In the worst case, Pryor could have taken valuable experience, while demonstrating his current and potential abilities.
McKenzie needs to make a clean sweep and dismiss Jackson.
January 9th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
Anyone that can avoid paying taxes and not go to jail is a hero in my opinion.
January 9th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
Kobe Bryant takes cortisone shots to deal with the pain from the wrist injury, has done it other times with other injuries so does that mean Kobe is tougher than some Raiders? That’d be some sad schit if so….
January 9th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
We should fire him!..thats what we need is to keep bringing in new head coaches, it worked before! Keep Hue, let him do his thing and hopefully he’ll learn to have the teams positive results appear on the field and not hypothetically spoken out of his mouth. Go Hue, Go Raiders!
January 9th, 2012 at 4:38 pm
Kobe Bryant is a tough as nails Champion.
January 9th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Yo fools:
JC or CP can never take us to the Superbowl: JC being a mediocre and dispassionate schulb, also known as a good “game manager”; and CP being aged and obviously past his prime, with a lack of fire to win.
CP, in his 9 seasons, has only rushed for 336 yds and 6 TD’s. On the other hand, Rich Gannon, in his 1st 4 seasons with the Raiders, including the 2002 Superbowl run, rushed for 1370 yds and 11 TDs.
Football success depends on a mobile QB who can scramble. I am not advocating a Vick type running QB, but only a QB who can pick up enough 1st downs to create a 12th man phenomena for which defenses have no answer. This attribute CP lacks totally; besides the fact that CP lacks mobility he reminds me of a bowling pin in the pocket: set up to be knocked down. He can’t escape pressure, and throws at the worst times when he should avoiding sacks or scrambling for 1st downs. Is it any wonder his interception ratio was horrific, and caused the loss of at least 5 games?
Now then, Hue Jackson should have perceived what I stated above and not mortgaged our immediate future to acquire CP. The loss of Campbell wasn’t much; if Boller had stepped in our win/loss record would most likely have been the same with or without CP.
The fact is, Hue knew the Raiders were no playoff team and admitted as much based on the Buffalo game. Yet, discarding the truth, Hue made a terrible deal with the Bengals for CP. No other team negotiated with the Bengals the entire year and into the season, and Hue, knowing the Raiders weren’t playoff bound, sold the farm for CP.
Truthfully, I don’t care about CP one way or another. If we had paid him $4M for a 2 yr contract, voidable without pay in yr 2 based on yr 1 performance, with a 2nd round pick going to the Bengals in 2013, that would have been acceptable. But what Hue bargained for blows up the concept of “bargain”, meaning “bar-gain”; both sides to the deal receive somewhat equivalent consideration. Hue sold us out for the next 2 to 3 yrs.
Besides Hue’s other negative attributes, fully documented within this blog time and again evidencing the fact that he lacks football savvy, Hue also lacks the basic intelligence and common sense to be a head coach in the NFL.
A final note: when the Raiders were being blown out in 4 of our last 5 games, why didn’t Hue insert Terrel Pryor when there was everything to gain and nothing to lose? In the worst case, Pryor could have taken valuable experience, while demonstrating his current and potential abilities.
McKenzie needs to make a clean sweep and dismiss Jackson.
January 9th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 9:15 am
A year ago Denver was our biatch.
Look at them now. Now look at us. Now at them. Now look at the horse.
Go Reggie!
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funny
January 9th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
Why is John Herrera so hated on the board? Did he sink the last decade single handedly?
January 9th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
The troll known as “Al D. Davis” thinks repeating the same cut-and-paste job is the same thing as debating.
Wrong.
January 9th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
Put me down for keeping Hue. The players have had too many coaching changes.
January 9th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
keep hue jackson. i kinda like that hes overconfident and isnot afraid of any players. he takes huge risks but why the heck not ?? every team needs super assistant coaches to win and a great roster . i mean , do u really think the black g.m. is gonna fire the 1sy year black head coach that was 1 game out th eplayoffs ? and shares his agent ?
January 9th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
Kobe is mean mah-fugga! Anyone think there is a possibility of the Lakers still trading Bynum for Howard? Bynum is balling and maybe his increased value can bring in Jameer Nelson as well? Just throwing that out there and I’m not sure who we would give up as well. Nelson is only scoring 6.8 ppg.
January 9th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
A couple of comments reading thru blog today…
1. M.Shaughnessy could be converted to 3-4 OLB. Mario Williams, but also look at J.Houston KC’s 3-4 OLB. Both are same build, height, weight as Shaughnessy. Doesn’t mean he WILL convert, but he could. He’s more suited to the OLB than DE spot. Which suits Bryant, L.Houston, Kelly and Seymour.
2. Palmer WAS acquired for a “win now” reason. When JC went down, if it wasn’t about Hue thinking he could take us all the way he wouldn’t have mortgaged future picks (that a GM would want to accrue to continue building). Hue didn’t have a long-term goal/vision in mind, he wanted to “win now” and “win a championship”…as he stated in pressers a hundred times over during the Palmer trade and afterwards. If it wasn’t about “win a championship now”, Hue would’ve kept the picks, played Boller, signed another FA QB, brought Pryor in, whatever, and rode the season looking to CONTINUE to rebuild for 2012.
January 9th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
qodrn1 Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
Why is John Herrera so hated on the board? Did he sink the last decade single handedly?
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His attempted televised fistfight with Kawakami, his intimidation techniques towards employees, his attempting to demote coaches to scouts in violation of their contracts, his unnecessary dissing of Rich Gannon, etc, etc…
January 9th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
Giving money to the government under the threat of force is slavery. Wake up America, this is not our heritage. We are supposed to be people that believe in liberty and freedom. I think we have lost our way.
January 9th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
i mean , do u really think the black g.m. is gonna fire the 1sy year black head coach that was 1 game out th eplayoffs ? and shares his agent ?
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Wow. Racial assumptions.
January 9th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
Twocents Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
Giving money to the government under the threat of force is slavery. Wake up America, this is not our heritage. We are supposed to be people that believe in liberty and freedom. I think we have lost our way.
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You ARE aware this is a football blog, no?
January 9th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
Just Watch… They’ll be some goofballs in here in a few days arguing why we should fire Reggie McKenzie…. You know it’s coming …
January 9th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
Apologies to those who do not want to hear about Tebow etc, but one last freaky thing about yesterday…
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/09/mile-high-halo-over-broncos_n_1194204.html#s598077&title=Mile_High_Halo
Cloud halo appears over Mile High during game ^
January 9th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
1779. I hear what you are saying, but Payton Manning, Tom Brady and others disprove your theory. Not a fan of giving up 2 1st rounder’s (hopefully, now given the condition), but we have to look at the offense as a whole. Poor O-lines, poor routes, no running game have made good QB’s look pretty mediocre. Let’s let this play out. I am pretty excited about the prospect of having a full off season program and getting all our weapons back next year. Now, fill the holes on D and let’s see what happens.
January 9th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
Twocents Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
Giving money to the government under the threat of force is slavery.
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Maybe you should read a book about slavery.
January 9th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
There was also the freaky opening kickoff too…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Nx6EdIY_q0
January 9th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
1782.RaiderDuck Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
The troll known as “Al D. Davis” thinks repeating the same cut-and-paste job is the same thing as debating.
Wrong.
Sorry RaiderDuck, but normally I don’t cut and paste. However, I had numerous entries all with numerous typos, so I proof read them, corrected them, and combined them into one entry.
I am as good as any at debating while keeping the entries fresh.
January 9th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
FreddieB #1793:
I agree and can’t wait till Aug of 2012.
January 9th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
GG Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
Apologies to those who do not want to hear about Tebow etc, but one last freaky thing about yesterday…
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/09/mile-high-halo-over-broncos_n_1194204.html#s598077&title=Mile_High_Halo
Cloud halo appears over Mile High during game ^
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The comments are hilarious for that article!
Best one is snoop dog mus have been firing one up..
January 9th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
Anyone think we will get to hear from Mark tomorrow?
January 9th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
KoolKell, what is the difference between having your production usurpted by a slave master or a government official.
January 9th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
RaiderDuck, when it became a basketball blog I figured anything goes.
January 9th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
Reggie McFailure has done nothing thus far to improve this team.
Hey Reggie! Oakland is that a way!
This inaction on the part of our so called “GM” is inexcusable.
FIRE MCLAME-O ASA-Yesterday.
January 9th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
So I read this blog as it’s a good source of information and discussion on the team.
As for Hue, I’ll say this:
If he has lost the team, as in they don’t respect or believe in him or his offense, that’s beyond repair and I expect McKenzie to be able to sense this and make the move.
But for a first year head coach, here’s what he had to work with:
-Youth and cast offs on the O-line
-3 quarterbacks, none all pro level
-Star running back gone
-Horrible defense
-Death of the owner (leaving him as arguably the most senior football guy on the team)
-Overpaid players he did not choose (minus Palmer)
-A defense he doesn’t control
-Loss of star cornerback
Gruden started in a eerily similar situation, went 7-3 in the first 10 games and 1-5 down the stretch.
His second year once he had “his guys” he still went 8-8. He was run out of town two years later and minus Callahan’s lightning in a bottle season we have not recovered since.
Al was responsible for the defense, we all know that. And arguably our defense hasn’t been great since the return to Oakland (we’ve had a few ok years, but in general it’s ok against the pass and horrible against the run).
If the offense still believes in Hue (and I trust McKenzie to be able to sniff this out), he needs to stay. Lack of continuity for players and systems has almost destroyed this team.
And for the comments his trade was a waste: we were in the hunt all season to the end of the game against SD. All it took was 8-8 and a better division record than ours to make the playoffs in the AFC West. We wouldn’t have won in SD or Minnesota with Boller. I don’t blame the guy for trying to win now.
My 2 cents….
January 9th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
1798.boss01 Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
GG Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
Apologies to those who do not want to hear about Tebow etc, but one last freaky thing about yesterday…
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/09/mile-high-halo-over-broncos_n_1194204.html#s598077&title=Mile_High_Halo
Cloud halo appears over Mile High during game ^
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The comments are hilarious for that article!
Best one is snoop dog mus have been firing one up..
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You know at one point just after that cloud was discovered, I thought I saw the face of the Virgin Mary in the turf around the 50 yard line. Crazy Huh!
January 9th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
#1802,
I deserve points for one of the most annoying posts ever.
It’s at least gotta be in the team photo.
January 9th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
Breaking news…
A league source close to the Raiders has confirmed that Reggie McKenzie’s first order of business is picking new drapes for the new home with the wifey. They quote Reggie as saying, “Wife always comes first.” The source says the fate of Hue Jackson and other coaching staff rests in how agitated or not the wifey makes Reggie during this home-decorating phase.
January 9th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
Chris.. put me down for no problem.. however if Reggie keeps him, well I’d have to support it.
January 9th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
djohnnyg Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
#1802,
I deserve points for one of the most annoying posts ever.
It’s at least gotta be in the team photo.
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Haha I had a good chuckle. Nice work.
January 9th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
“It doesen’t matter who votes, it matters who counts the votes.” Vladimir Lenin. Or was it John Lennon, I can’t remember.
January 9th, 2012 at 5:21 pm
Dj…I predicted in a post just above that within days we’d be seeing fire Reggie McKenzie post in here….
January 9th, 2012 at 5:21 pm
YA, Thanks for noticing the satire.
Sad thing is check back here in 3 months and we will say real posts like that.
January 9th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
Sad thing is check back here in 3 months and we will say real posts like that.
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No doubt.
January 9th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
*See
January 9th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
I bet it won’t take that long…
January 9th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
1810.fingers Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 5:21 pm
Dj…I predicted in a post just above that within days we’d be seeing fire Reggie McKenzie post in here….
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I know. You prompted me to throw one out there, lol.
I would think tomorrow is DDAY for Bresnahan, right?
Or will Reggie wait for the 15 th? Wouldn’t it make sense to go ahead and do it tomorrow?
January 9th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
Bresnahan is as good as outta here IMO… I just can’t see how they’d keep him… Not sure it will be announced at the presser but I’d expect it will be real soon… We may learn Hue fate very soon also
January 9th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
HenryWoffordCSN Henry Wofford
Breaking news I just spoke to my sources,Hue Jackson and Reggie McKenzie did not meet today. McKenzie arrives in the Bay Area later tonight.
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WTF, where are you Cork?
January 9th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
i come home…turn on the computer and read this page..rarely saying anything..but man…its redundant how everyone complains about things they shouldnt be complaining about like the offense…our offense is good enough to get to the post season…dont expect our o to be with the elite such as the pack the pats or the saints..but our offense is right up there with the other teams in the playoffs…if our defense was as good as it was last year we would have played last weekend possibly this one as well….change what needs to be changed and stop mentioning things like the qb or the offense for the sake of discussion..its old and its soooo wrong
January 9th, 2012 at 5:30 pm
HenryWoffordCSN Henry Wofford
Hue Jackson and Reggie McKenzie will meet prior to the press conference tomorrow. My sources say Coach Hue’s job is safe.
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January 9th, 2012 at 5:30 pm
If McKenzie wants to go in a new direction for a Hc I’d think he’d want to cut ties with Hue quickly and start the search… Unless he already has a HC in mind …..I still think Hue gets at least 1 more season … Just a hunch
January 9th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
Albert… Yep… I’ve heard it both ways …
January 9th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
Great points by Mark L… the problem with Hue Jackson, however, is that he was way over the top with his reaction to Al’s passing after the Houston game, his presser after the SD loss came across as shady and even his snub of Norv after the game was revealing. Translation: we may have an LA street hustler on our hands and can the front office trust him. I suspect the players have enough street smarts to have drawn their own conclusions.
January 9th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
Canadianraider… Lol… We have a need to nag and complain… And if theirs nothing to nag and complain about , we”ll make something up to complain about
January 9th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
Sherlock Holmes once said, “anything out of the ordinary, is a clue”
A Head Coach in the NFL who gets weekly mani/pedi’s is a clue. As to what, I don’t know, but it’s a clue to something.
January 9th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
“My 2 cents….”
Nice post Mark L
January 9th, 2012 at 5:37 pm
I thought the samething about Hues reaction to Al’s death…. Hate to say it but it seems it was a little ( lot) of a put on ….
January 9th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
Hue is an emotional guy. I don’t think he was faking it.
January 9th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
Albert… Maybe some people are a lot more emotional about that kind of thing…I don’t feel right judging another persons grief .. So I probley shouldn’t have ..
January 9th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
what # was the post from Mark L please?…lol fingers..ur right its not our fault we chose a team that stresses us out every year..not consistency except the fact they consistently shoot themselves in the foot..hmmmm maybe plax burress belongs on our team
January 9th, 2012 at 5:42 pm
not consistent*
January 9th, 2012 at 5:42 pm
Keep an eye on LSU RT Alex Hurst. He might declare for the draft.
January 9th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
“His attempted televised fistfight with Kawakami, ”
They should give him a damn award or trophy for that WTF are you talking about that dweeb is the biggest media hater of Al Davis and the entire Oakland Raider organization there is. He hates us I would punch Kawakami too if I could.
That little wimp said to Herrera he would sue and own part of the Raiders if he hit him…what a slimy little weakling if you ask me he should be punched for how he writes about our team.
January 9th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
Raider offense is unique. Not like the Saints, GB or NE, but it has its own “flavor”.
None of those offenses has the “gamebreaker” at RB and the Raiders don’t have the “crafty white guy” like GB and NE, and those teams don’t have nearly the WR speed Oakland has either.
On paper, you’d almost think we were better on offense than those guys.
I know guys would say the difference is we don’t have the QB those teams do, but Carson Palmer is no slouch imo.
January 9th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
Albert Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
Hue is an emotional guy. I don’t think he was faking it.
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I thought it was totally appropriate. Made me cry.
January 9th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
#1822
I’ve been wondering how the players really feel about Hue. It’s hard to tell if Hue lost the whole team or just the Defense, seems like some players did quit on him. It will be interesting to see if McKenzie is the type to take the time and evaluate the staff or come out firing both six shooters.
Some exciting times coming up for Raiders fans.
January 9th, 2012 at 5:47 pm
Canadian… I hear ya … It was a family decision for me… I was born just north of Oakland in Richmond and our whole family lives and dies Raider ….maybe it will be aggravating with our New GM… Hoping so ..
January 9th, 2012 at 5:48 pm
Mark Purdy is right on this one fellas regarding Oaklnad and its leaders blowing it with the A’s all these years:
http://www.insidebayarea.com/news/ci_19706862
January 9th, 2012 at 5:49 pm
more PFT hate our way YUCK
Florio is such a hater!
January 9th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
Raider for life…. I ask Cork a couple months ago if the players liked Playing for Hue Jackson… He said… They love it… Because hues straight up with them…..
Things may have changed since … But that’s what he said
January 9th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
“His attempted televised fistfight with Kawakami, ”
They should give him a damn award or trophy for that WTF are you talking about that dweeb is the biggest media hater of Al Davis and the entire Oakland Raider organization there is. He hates us I would punch Kawakami too if I could.
That little wimp said to Herrera he would sue and own part of the Raiders if he hit him…what a slimy little weakling if you ask me he should be punched for how he writes about our team.
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OF COURSE he told Herrera he would sue. Herrera’s a big guy. No way Kawakami survives a fistfight with him.
And he shouldn’t have to. Herrera’s little tantrum made our organization look like even more of a laughingstock. John Herrera is symbolic of everything wrong with the old way of doing things, and hopefully he’ll be dispatched sooner rather than later.
January 9th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
regarding hue’s emotion during the houston game..part of me felt sympathetic but afterwards i couldnt help but wonder if it was all for show..did he have to sit on the sidelines knelt down knowing the cameras were on him?..if it were someone like Madden still coaching us i wouldnt have a doubt it was genuine..but hes been on our team for 2 seasons….i dont know but maybe it was a bit too much….even in the locker room when he was crying…was he?..i didnt see a tear..i just hope it wasnt an act…maybe im wrong…ill give hue credit cause i dont know him personally so who am i to judge
January 9th, 2012 at 5:51 pm
Canadian ..sorry… I meant ” less” aggravating
January 9th, 2012 at 5:52 pm
It’s funny cause some of you cried and whined and about Gruden being too emotional and talking too much and all the man did was lead the Raiders to 3 AFC West titles and built a Super Bowl contender.
January 9th, 2012 at 5:52 pm
Dakota Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
If Teblow takes the Broncos to the SB and wins it, heck, or even just gets there, I am going to church for the rest of the year just in case 2012 really is the End of Days….
LOL…the end of the world will be here and the NFL is the ones ending it!
January 9th, 2012 at 5:53 pm
KoolKell, you will cry even more when you realize that you have pissed away your liberty and sold yourself back into slavery.
January 9th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
has hue been fired yet?
January 9th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
Politics?.. Oh no…
January 9th, 2012 at 5:58 pm
hue is a salesman of course it was show…
January 9th, 2012 at 5:59 pm
Fire.hue… We’re talking about how long it’s gonna take before we’re posting Fire Reggie..
January 9th, 2012 at 5:59 pm
i figured out what u were saying fingers….and im envious that u live close enough to watch the raiders at home..im stuck with watching them in buffalo lol.i like our gm tho..i will admit i never heard of him until he was a candidate ,, i think it was a good move because everyone else around the league commended the raiders for signing him..which is rare lol
January 9th, 2012 at 5:59 pm
I know some of you guys think that I am MR, Sullivan, or whatever. But, I would not be surprised to find out that MR is really Kawakami.
January 9th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
kawasaki should have been koed by herrera also
January 9th, 2012 at 6:01 pm
Canadianraider, Reggie played for the Raiders in the 80s. He also has a twin brother who played for the Redskins.
January 9th, 2012 at 6:01 pm
“John Herrera is symbolic of everything wrong with the old way of doing things, and hopefully he’ll be dispatched sooner rather than later.”
I say have Herrera stab Kawakami with a dirty prison shank in a dark alley then promote Herrera to head of security!
Bottom line Kawakami should be punished!
January 9th, 2012 at 6:01 pm
Albert we all saw your Sandusky44 moment this weekend let it go the gig is up.
January 9th, 2012 at 6:02 pm
fingers…i want a gm that believes in talent like al did…but with the exception of a no bs coach…
January 9th, 2012 at 6:02 pm
CorkOnTheNFL Steve Corkran
Reggie McKenzie introductory news conference Tuesday at 2 p.m. in Alameda. Uncertain whether coach Hue Jackson will be in attendance.
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January 9th, 2012 at 6:03 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 6:01 pm
Albert we all saw your Sandusky44 moment this weekend let it go the gig is up.
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I don’t know what you are talking about. There has been someone trolling my name.
January 9th, 2012 at 6:04 pm
1773.RaiderRetribution Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 4:28 pm
i just posted this question on S&B pride:
Had Hue not made the trade for Palmer, would we even be considering not retaining him as head coach for another year?
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If Hue didn’t make the trade for Palmer, the Raiders would have lost the games to SD, Minny and Chicago, along with the rest of the games including the 2nd KC game. They would have won only 4 games this season. The team would not have sold out anymore games after that either.
January 9th, 2012 at 6:06 pm
What’s Tim Kawakami supposed to write about, how great the Raiders have been the last 10 years?
Grow up.
January 9th, 2012 at 6:08 pm
Canadian… You’ll have to make a game sometime just for the tailgate…. We always walk the parking lots aisles before game just to take in the sights … Nothing like it…been to Kc, Denver and San Diego… Nothing better than the Raiders tailgates
January 9th, 2012 at 6:11 pm
I’m ok with the Palmer trade…. Give the guy some consistent recievers and a full camp.. All our RB’s healthy and let’s see what He can do
January 9th, 2012 at 6:24 pm
Raiders for life Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
#1822
I’ve been wondering how the players really feel about Hue. It’s hard to tell if Hue lost the whole team or just the Defense, seems like some players did quit on him. It will be interesting to see if McKenzie is the type to take the time and evaluate the staff or come out firing both six shooters.
Some exciting times coming up for Raiders fans.
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If Hue lost the defense it was because he didn’t rescue them from Bresnahan. Granted, he couldn’t do anything while Al was still breathing but after the fact he could have done something you would think. Maybe there was just no one on staff that could do any better than Bresnahan. That’s a scary thought and if true, maybe the entire group of Defe4nsive assistants should be canned.