Jackson regrets comments from final game news conference
By Steve Corkran
Wednesday, January 11th, 2012 at 4:26 pm in Oakland Raiders.
One day after being fired as the Raiders head coach, Hue Jackson is in full spin-control mode.
On Wednesday, Jackson took to the air to give his side about comments he made minutes after his team’s season-ending loss to the San Diego Chargers, in which he said he wanted more control over the team and blamed his players for their play against the Chargers.
It’s interesting to note that new general manager Reggie McKenzie said Tuesday at his introductory news conference that Jackson’s comments after the Chargers game had “nothing to do with” Jackson being fired. He said everyone makes comments that they wish they could take back.
New owner Mark Davis said he didn’t want to comment on Jackson’s postgame remarks Jan. 1. That was the only question that Davis refused to answer, by the way.
Here’s the transcript from Jackson’s interview, courtesy of NFL Network:
On if he was caught off guard by being relieved of his duties by new Raiders general manager Reggie McKenzie:
“I was a little surprised, but I do understand the nature of pro football. Sometimes things that look like they should don’t always end up like they should. So I understand. The Raiders did me a favor by giving me an opportunity, Al Davis did and I thank him for it. What a tremendous organization. My time there was awesome, the people at 1220 [Harbor Bay Parkway] who I worked with, they were tremendous – the staff was tremendous. I understand the nature of this business, but obviously I wish it would have went a different direction than it did.”
On how he found out that he would no longer be the head coach of the Raiders:
“[Reggie McKenzie and I] didn’t really get into too many of the details. Reggie was very forthcoming and just said, ‘I’m going to make a change, I need to bring in my own guy,’ which I understand. I knew that anytime a new GM comes in, they like to line themselves with their head coach, somebody that they want to bring in. At the end of the day, I can’t fault him or anyone within the organization for feeling like they feel. I wish the situation was different but it’s not.”
On his news conference following the Raiders’ final game of the season:
“I wish I could it take it back and say it differently so people could really understand what I was trying to say. I wasn’t trying to say that I wanted to take total control of everything. When you work for the Raiders, you understand that Al Davis is first and foremost – you work for him. So I didn’t get an opportunity to put everybody that I wanted on my staff or run the team to do with football operations the way that I see fit. I took the job and I knew the parameters of the job, and I accepted that. At the end, what was coming out of me was the emotion of a long season, being 8-8, losing to the Chargers with so much riding on the line: the opportunity to win the AFC West, to host a playoff game there at home, the opportunity to have the first nine-win season since 2002. I went and talked to the team, and what I normally do is I go in and take a shower and put on my clothes before I go see the media. I carried some things with me and that’s a lesson learned for me that I don’t think you can go in there [immediately]. You need to settle down first and really think through what you’re saying. But what I said is what I felt. Not that I was trying to say I wanted to run everything; I just wanted to be able to feel like I knew there were some changes that needed to be made and I wanted to be able to make them, and I was trying to voice that. Not take total control or anything like that.”
On any conversations he had with Mark Davis over the past couple of days:
“I didn’t talk to Mark [before the decision was made]. I have not talked to Mark. Mark is a good man and I have spent a lot of time ever since the night that Coach [Al Davis] died; the person that told me was Mark – he came to my room and informed me of what had happened to Coach. I haven’t had an opportunity to speak to him. I did text him and tell him thank you for the opportunity and to thank him and his family, and I wish him well. But at the end of the day, like I said he’s the owner and he’s going to make the decision of which direction the franchise runs and I have to accept that.”
On the Raiders down the stretch of the regular season:
“We didn’t finish; it’s a term that I’ve always used. We didn’t play as well as we could have down the stretch, and again that’s what I was feeling after that San Diego game. We had so many opportunities, whether it was going to Miami, going to Green Bay, finishing at home against Detroit, went to Kansas City and then here comes San Diego. We weren’t able to get it done and I don’t have an excuse for that. At the end of the day, that’s my charge: to make sure that we do [get it done], and we didn’t. I know we played decently on offense, we didn’t play as well as we could or should on defense and the players know that. They own up to that and they respect that. But at the end of the day we just didn’t finish. When you don’t finish this is what happens: you end up 8-8 and you end up out of the playoffs.”
On if he wants to coach in 2012:
“There is no doubt I do. I love coaching, I love leading men and coaching guys. Whatever is going to happen is going to happen, but I’m going to take a couple of days to just relax and then let the chips fall where they may. There is a place out there for me someplace and I think I’ll find it.”
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January 11th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
January 11th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
Cockran got the blog memo that his gig was in jeopardy if he didn’t step it up.
January 11th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
I’ll agree with you Duck.
Hue’s personality didn’t help him out at all
But…it’s a football team. Sports. Entertainment. Who cares about coach personality IF HE’S GOOD AT PUTTING POINTS on the board. I’ll take a weird personality that can produce something tangible over a nice guy that may or may not.
I’ll take Gruden over Callahan. Rex Ryan over Mike Sherman. Hope we’re not repeating history.
January 11th, 2012 at 4:28 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
Aig-Raiders Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
Chris in NY Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 4:03 pm
Silver’s article = bullseye.
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Say that it is true Mark is in over his head. Shouldnt he bring in a professional GM to run the team? Which is exactly what he did. So what is the point of the article again?
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The article had no point other than a “Mark Davis sucks” hit piece. Yahoo! Sports should be embarrassed to have even run it.
January 11th, 2012 at 4:28 pm
Ted Bowles to be interview for the HC job per Pft, get up to date Cokran.
January 11th, 2012 at 4:28 pm
Don;t back pedal now Hue!
January 11th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
you pair a good DC with Hue, and we win 10 games every year going forward, no question.
We all know that.
Just didn’t have to be this dramatic.
“look Hue, if you don’t calm down your gig here is done, capice? Here’s a good DC, go put up your points, and let’s win some games.”
Not sure how at least giving that a 1-year trial was a bad idea, based on how close we were and how far we’ve come.
January 11th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
5. Check the previous Steve post
January 11th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
BS Hue. Yesterday you were backtracking on the Palmer trade trying to lay it on Mark Davis when YOU were the mastermind of that trade. You bragged it was teh best trade in history.
This guy is a fckin rat and cancer. Glad we got rid of him. He was never qualified to do the HC gig since he was the only guy Al Davis could find to kiss his aZZ. Where’s the bully you promised Hue?
January 11th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
If Im Reggie McKenzie, im interviewing Mr marty Shotenheimer.
Now thats the man this defense needs.
January 11th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
Not sure how at least giving that a 1-year trial was a bad idea, based on how close we were and how far we’ve come.
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Please explain to me how far we came this year from last year? 8-8 with more playmakers and less points than last year. Worst penalty numbers. What exactly did Hue improved over Tom Cable? Perhaps it was because Hue didnt have AD to help him? BS.
January 11th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
Where can we sign up for an interview? Seriously, he already has a short list & I’m sure most, if not all, are GB coaches. That’s not really surprising as he’s been working with and has known these guys for up to 15 years, possibly longer.
Irrespective of who he picks, if they focus on fixing the D while keeping the current offense & Al Saunders as the OC, we should do just fine. Reggie didn’t say he wanted to change our O or D philosophies. He said his job was to put the right HC in-place, letting that HC hire his own staff (as it should be), and to find players both from the draft & FA to upgrade our current player base. That seems like a very sound approach as long as they don’t try to revamp the whole team all at once.
WMoss, the leading prospect for HC is a defensive minded coach. If he can fix the D, possibly by switching to 3-4 and making some personnel changes while letting Saunders run the O, we will be in the playoffs next year at a minimum.
January 11th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
51.alex7 Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 4:00 pm
Debo
Elvis Grbac had a 16-15 TD to INT ratio in San Francisco. That’s kicking ass??
Your logic SUCKS!
Those two Hall of Fame QBs were alright though.
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Dude, you should know by now that I don’t play fantasy football. Fact is he went 6-3 as a starter there. Garcia went to the playoffs and won playoff games there. Didn’t do that in Cleveland or Detroit, did he? What was Steve Young in Tampa Bay? If he doesn’t get rescued by the 49ers, does he go to the HOF??? You’ve got to get it through your head that it’s a team game. Yeah, some QBs are more talented than others. When you have a talented one, you’ve got to surround him with talent so that his talent can show through. Stafford is a great example. He has one of the three strongest arms in the NFL. The day he walked in the door, he had the best receiver in football. Then the team surrounds him with Tony Schefler, Nate Burleson, Titus Young and Brandon Pettigrew. And he had Linehan running the offense. That equals a 5000-yrd, playoff season. Too bad Al didn’t get that memo when we had Jamarcus. He figured JR should put a HOF career together with Justin Fargas, Cornell Green, Mario Henderson, Louis Murphy (rookie) and DHB (rookie). With Tom Cable running the offense. Oh well.
January 11th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
7. U have to wonder if Mark didn;t just sign off like “whatever”. Don;’t know what I;’m doing, this guys highly recommended, fingers crossed. Needed somebody cuz stuff needs done now.
Hue wasn’t part of the plan but I liked where he was going. Agree, a new DC and were in business.
Now its rebuild mode for 2-3 5 YEARS? I can;t take it. We better win the Division next year or I;m freekin out
January 11th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
“The article had no point other than a “Mark Davis sucks” hit piece. Yahoo! Sports should be embarrassed to have even run it.”
EXACTLY!!
I will not use Yahoo anymore after that I am still so pizzed off about that.
January 11th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
12. Hey no doubt, hire ME. My first move as new Raider HC? Make Mark get an adult hair cut…
January 11th, 2012 at 4:33 pm
Aig, it’s been done 1,000 times.
29-83 before Hue showed up.
16-16 after he did.
31st-ranked O without Hue.
5th-ranked O first year Hue ran O.
We played a meaningful game week 17 for the first time in almost 10 years.
That’s called progress. It’s not hard.
January 11th, 2012 at 4:33 pm
The article had no point other than a “Mark Davis sucks” hit piece. Yahoo! Sports should be embarrassed to have even run it.
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Agreed. Silver is Hue’s friend. He was gushing about how Hue will have our team playing deep into the playoff this year during camp. Now he’s writing a hit pieace and Hue’s other friend Lorenzo Neal was on the radio defending Hue with “need his own coaches”. I dont remember Hue saying he needed his own coaches when he made all those promises at the time he became the HC.
January 11th, 2012 at 4:33 pm
Alex7 Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
I’ll agree with you Duck.
Hue’s personality didn’t help him out at all
But…it’s a football team. Sports. Entertainment. Who cares about coach personality IF HE’S GOOD AT PUTTING POINTS on the board. I’ll take a weird personality that can produce something tangible over a nice guy that may or may not.
I’ll take Gruden over Callahan. Rex Ryan over Mike Sherman. Hope we’re not repeating history.
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Personality means a lot. Look how the Jets are being torn apart, RIGHT NOW, by “anonymous players” going to media to gripe about Sanchez. It’s a destructive environment. Reggie didn’t think he could trust Hue’s hair-trigger personality.
January 11th, 2012 at 4:33 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
mark davis knows he isnt his father, no one is. he was smart to hand over the keys to guy that is a raider and will implement the best practices of davis /wolf, and ted thompson.
We do see some definite similarities to his father in the way he does business. Not afraid to pull the trigger, doesnt like a coach to fire coaches without his blessing. Will hire former raiders and first time hires, regardless of experience or media perception.
If hue jack got cuaght in the crossfire within the process of mark davis making his own mark its simply the nature of the business.
people have been screaming for a gm now we have one and people moan about the loss of hu jack, and say he didnt get “a fair shake”.
Did hue jack give jc or dhb a fair shake when he swept them out to bring in palmer and tj? NO, so I guess turnabout is fair play, and in the end it is poetic justice.
January 11th, 2012 at 4:33 pm
15. Give Silver a break.
With Al dead media stil trying to figure out who to loathe
January 11th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
19. REGGIE is the one who seems power drunk now
January 11th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
“Please explain to me how far we came this year from last year? 8-8 with more playmakers and less points than last year. Worst penalty numbers. What exactly did Hue improved over Tom Cable?”
This is what I have been saying how is Hue any better than Cable at 8-8
January 11th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
to think any other team would have still gone 8-8 after:
losing owner
losing GM
losing starting QB
having awful backup QB
losing star RB for 2/3rds of the year.
WRs shuffling in and out with injuries.
Having 30th-ranked D.
Yet there we were, one 98-yard stop from the playoffs. One decent DC hire this off-season from being THE TOP DOG in the afc west, no question about it.
January 11th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
Alex7 Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 4:23 pm
well Aig
to be fair, Mark didn’t bring in a profession GM. He brought in a guy who broke down college film and helped draft great talent. Full time GM is a step up.
Hopefully not a peter principle.
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Reggie McKenzie comes to this position on the recommendations of Ron Wolf & John Madden, ok?
January 11th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
btw, 22 was posted by “the guy who parks cars” at the facility.
January 11th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
Duck
that same Jets coach just won a handful of playoff games the last two years.
Worth it to me.
January 11th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
“The article had no point other than a “Mark Davis sucks” hit piece. Yahoo! Sports should be embarrassed to have even run it.”
EXACTLY!!
I will not use Yahoo anymore after that I am still so pizzed off about that.
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No no no. Page Views count. Go to Yahoo! Sports frequently, but don’t click on any of Silver’s columns. Read the columns by all the OTHER Yahoo Sports authors instead. Enough people do that, and Silver will get the message (or he’ll just be canned).
January 11th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
We played a meaningful game week 17 for the first time in almost 10 years.
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1. It was meaningful because the rest of our division sucked! The div winner was 8-8.
2. Did Hue do any better than Tom Cable? I’d argue Tom did more than Hue ever did. Tom had AD fcking with him as the season was winding down. Hue had no one and was the defacto man in charge since 10/8.
With HJ in charge, our numbers wree worst across the board. So pls tell me how we improved again?
January 11th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
it’s been done 1,000 times.
29-83 before Hue showed up.
16-16 after he did.
31st-ranked O without Hue.
5th-ranked O first year Hue ran O.
We played a meaningful game week 17 for the first time in almost 10 years.
That’s called progress. It’s not hard.
January 11th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
24. But no, now its rebuild mode cuz Davis’ kid is clueless
January 11th, 2012 at 4:38 pm
yeah Aig,
you’re right!
Using a 3rd QB in the same season is no big deal.
Losing DMac was no big deal.
Losing Al Davis was no big deal.
Stuck with 30th-ranked D is no big deal.
Having our best WR out half the year is no big deal.
Playing the NFC North instead of the NFC West like last year is no big deal.
January 11th, 2012 at 4:38 pm
alex7 Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
to think any other team would have still gone 8-8 after:
losing owner
losing GM
losing starting QB
having awful backup QB
losing star RB for 2/3rds of the year.
WRs shuffling in and out with injuries.
Having 30th-ranked D.
Yet there we were, one 98-yard stop from the playoffs. One decent DC hire this off-season from being THE TOP DOG in the afc west, no question about it.
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Wait a minute. You’re the fcker that has been on here months after months saying how antiquated Al Davis has become and hurting our chances. And now you are using his passing away as a tragedy for Hue Jack? GTFOH.
January 11th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Reggies second order of business is to make Mark get a respectable hair cut or fire him too.
January 11th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Cable-led team, 2009: 5-11, 31st-ranked O.
Hue shows up, 2010: 8-8, 5th-ranked O.
You guys are basically defending Cable and Chuck B.
January 11th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
lol Aig
yeah bro, I’m sure Davis dying didn’t affect a rookie head coach one bit. Shouldn’t have. No big deal. Mentor? So what. Guy you talked to daily about football? So what. Means nothing. Just Al Davis, right?
And you cherry pick 1 of 7 things.
January 11th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
Having our best WR out half the year is no big deal.
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we didnt have Dmoore last year and we put more points on the board. So what was your point again?
On top of that, we used Kyle Boller for exactly 1 game. We sub’d JC for Palmer, who you are on record of liking and thinking is better than Jc. So how did we improve again this year? Or are you just making excuses again?
January 11th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
32.alex7 Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 4:38 pm
yeah Aig,
you’re right!
Using a 3rd QB in the same season is no big deal.
Losing DMac was no big deal.
Losing Al Davis was no big deal.
Stuck with 30th-ranked D is no big deal.
Having our best WR out half the year is no big deal.
Playing the NFC North instead of the NFC West like last year is no big deal.
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Winner by KO: Alex7!!!
January 11th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
alex7 Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Cable-led team, 2009: 5-11, 31st-ranked O.
Hue shows up, 2010: 8-8, 5th-ranked O.
You guys are basically defending Cable and Chuck B.
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Letting Hue go was fcked up. Hue was emotional after the SD meltdown and damn right he was pissed. Mark firing him was not the right move.
January 11th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
Todd Bowles.
- Bowles has already interviewed for three NFL head coaching jobs — in Detroit, Kansas City and Denver. And, according to one NFL source, Bowles came very, very close to getting the Detroit job that eventually went to Jim Schwartz.
Detroit General Manager Martin Mayhew loves and believes in Bowles. The two played for the Washington Redskins together in the 1980s and early 90s.
Bowles is also a guy that former Dolphins football czar Bill Parcells believes will eventually make a good football coach.
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More in-depth look at his career:
- Bowles has experience in both 4-3 and 3-4 base defenses, and has learned under some notable coaches such as Mike Nolan, Bill Parcells, and Wade Phillips.
Bowles is intriguing because of his underrated track record. If you look into his resume, you will find that Bowles was a key factor in sculpting some of the NFL’s best secondaries in the past decade.
He began his coaching career as the defensive coordinator and secondary coach for Morehouse College in 1997. Bowles later went on to be the defensive coordinator and defensive backs coach for Grambling State from 1998-1999 where he served under former Bucs quarterback and director of pro personnel Doug Williams.
He then made the leap into pro football.
Bowles’ first coaching position in the NFL came as a defensive backs coach for the New York Jets in 2000, which was a unit that only allowed 183.3 passing yards per game and ranked sixth in the NFL in pass defense.
Bowles was a part of the Cleveland Browns organization for four years (2001-04).
During his first three years with the Browns, he was a defensive nickel package coach. In 2001, the Browns led the league in interceptions with a total of 33, which was also a franchise record. In his final season with the Browns, Bowles acted as the secondary coach. The Browns ranked fifth in interceptions with Bowles as the secondary coach in 2004.
The New Jersey native was hired by the Dallas Cowboys in 2005.
Bowles coached the Cowboys secondary for three years (2005-08). During that time, Bowles coached three Dallas defensive backs to Pro Bowls. Safeties Ken Hamlin and Roy Williams combined for four trips to Honolulu, and cornerback Terrance Newman contributed with another invitation. Bowles did a phenomenal job getting the most out of these players, and clearly guided them in the right direction during his tenure as a part of the Cowboys’ organization.
Bowles also had an exceptional pro career as a defensive back. He played eight years in the NFL, including seasons with the Washington Redskins and San Francisco 49ers.
The Redskins captured the Super Bowl championship in 1987 with Bowles starting at free safety.
He’s someone that players can relate to today’s NFL players because he’s already “been there and done that” as a player.
Bowles also had a short stint in the talent evaluation department. After his playing career ended, Bowles took a job in the player personnel department for the Green Bay Packers in 1995.
Bowles, 48, has spent the last four seasons with the Miami Dolphins as the defensive backs coach and the assistant head coach.
He is being credited for the successful development of Miami’s impressive young secondary. Bowles helped cornerbacks Vontae Davis and Sean Smith adjust to the NFL after being drafted in the first and second round in 2009.
They have proven to be one of the best and most underrated young cornerback tandems in the league. He also assisted safety Yeremiah Bell during his Pro Bowl season in 2010.
Bowles was named the interim head coach after Miami fired Sparano with just three games left to play in the 2011 season.
He led the Dolphins to a 2-1 record, which included wins over the New York Jets and the Buffalo Bills. The Dolphins also played a good game against the New England Patriots with Bowles at the helm. The Fins almost came away with the win, but in the end lost the game by a final score of 27-24.
When Bowles gives a post-game press conference, he is soft-spoken, humble, and gives credit where credit is due.
But according to Dolphins safety Yeremiah Bell, Bowles is a no-nonsense coach on the football field.
“He’s soft-spoken, but if he needs to get in your face, believe me, he’ll get in your face,” Bell said. “There is another side. He’s not that quiet guy people make him out to be.”
Veteran defensive back Will Allen had similar things to say about the Dolphins interim head coach.
“He’s not afraid to call you out,” Allen said. “If you’re doing something wrong you’ll hear about it first hand. He’s not going to pull you to the side. Everyone in the room is going to hear him do it.”
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Sounds like an interesting hire … but more in line for the DC position, Head Coach maybe a reach at this point, but the guy has a future.
Still has more experience and qualifications than Winston Moss and Darren Perry.
In the end, Bowles is a guy well worth an interview.
January 11th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
Bottom line is we won’t know if firing Hue was the right move for a couple of years yet.
On the other hand, arguing about it IS a lot of fun!
January 11th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
Just read that yahoo article. Wow. Talk about a punch in the nuts to Mark Davis.
January 11th, 2012 at 4:44 pm
Hue Jack threw his cojones in the ring and they were neutered. So what? Move on children. It’s done.
January 11th, 2012 at 4:44 pm
thank you Debo.
These clowns act like any QB should step in off the street and be consistent every game.
Screw the protection schemes, getting timing with your WRs, getting your mind and body in mid-season form, screw all that.
And that’s 1 of 7 things that were huge obstacles compared to last year. Forget all that.
Fire the most productive coach first. Makes sense.
January 11th, 2012 at 4:44 pm
Watching these guys argue on Hue’s behalf is kinda entertaining, because he ISN’T coming back!
oops, let me use AiN’T coming back,
in honor of your man Hue…the Hospice Nurse
January 11th, 2012 at 4:45 pm
I’ll bet he regrets it……now. He was dead serious at the time though.
January 11th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
didn’t we WANT a coach to be pissed at the D and coaches?
didn’t we WANT a coach to want to make big changes on that side of the ball, and get rid of slacker players, and bring in smart guys who played hard and cared, and better coaches?
When did that become a terrible thing for our coach to be passionate about?
January 11th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
OBVIOUSLY done.
January 11th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
Hue put himself in a good position last year and things seemed to be going his way until Al died. His luck ran out and he was the victim of circumstance. He did deserve a chance to coach with his own staff. But as every one knows life is not always fair.
January 11th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
Still a lot of folks out on the ledge I see….come on back in. It’s all gunna be alright.
I liked Huge too but fvck guys it’s not like he actually won anything, not like trading Gruden to the Bucs.
The guy had a LOT to improve on in his play calling, a LOT to improve on in his HCoaching style and manner. And if you’re a GM coming in to this gig, I think you’d want a clean slate too.
We just joined the late 20th century and some of you are going full postal because Hue Jackson got shown the door after Al died and a GM finally got hired. Wtf did you THINK was going to happen when Al passed?
January 11th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
we had a good thing going with Gruden, couldn’t give him the power he deserved. History repeats.
can’t even want to fire your 30th ranked DC and bring in new players.
That’s blasphemy!
January 11th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
Let’s See Reggie Mac’s lst To Do List:
1) Get Rid of Self Indulgent Loud Mouth check
2) Meet Press and say nothing check
3) Bring in former super bowl winning starter who is under the radar, has history of success, and has HC experience check
Not bad for lst 24 hours
January 11th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
JLofty
compare Hue’s year 1 to Gruden’s year 1.
what’s the difference?
Both had turned the O around and were beating teams we had no history beating before.
January 11th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
When the Raiders win a Super Bowl in LA, all the Hollywood types will be sporting Mark Davis bowl cuts.
January 11th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
Whats a Drexl? Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
Aig-Raiders Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
Chris in NY Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 4:03 pm
Silver’s article = bullseye.
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Say that it is true Mark is in over his head. Shouldnt he bring in a professional GM to run the team? Which is exactly what he did. So what is the point of the article again?
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The article had no point other than a “Mark Davis sucks” hit piece. Yahoo! Sports should be embarrassed to have even run it.
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I sent Silver my e-mail, asking what kind of a National Inquirer d-bag is he.
Attributing a pure speculation hatchet job, on an unnamed source at an unknown meeting. The guy is a derelict.
January 11th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
Only difference with Mark is he has someone else do the dirty work. HueJax canning was not a wise move.
If Hue goes to become the Denver HC/OC, with Tebow as his qb and the denver D, and after all he learned here, we’re fcked in the blow hole.
And you know Elway already is entertaining this.
January 11th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
44.alex7 Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 4:44 pm
thank you Debo.
These clowns act like any QB should step in off the street and be consistent every game.
Screw the protection schemes, getting timing with your WRs, getting your mind and body in mid-season form, screw all that.
And that’s 1 of 7 things that were huge obstacles compared to last year. Forget all that.
Fire the most productive coach first. Makes sense.
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I think good offensive coaches who call their own plays (Sean Payton, Mike McCarthy) are hard to find. Still in disbelief we just kicked one out the door. Hard to imagine the new hire being an upgrade.
January 11th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
Whats a Drexl? Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
alex7 Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
I’ll agree with you Duck.
Hue’s personality didn’t help him out at all
But…it’s a football team. Sports. Entertainment. I’ll take a weird personality that can produce something tangible over a nice guy that may or may not.
I’ll take Gruden over Callahan. Hope we’re not repeating history.
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A weird personality? The guy was/is pure cornball. Who this side of the nut house runs around crowing about building a bully. The in itself made Hue deserving of a canning.
January 11th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
Dakota,
there are many many folk in the hoosegow who regret what they did. but they are all innocent, no?
January 11th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
alex7 Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
we had a good thing going with Gruden, couldn’t give him the power he deserved. History repeats.
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MR, Gruden didn’t deserve that power. He had that power in TB and ran that team into the ground. Like here.
January 11th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
I stopped reading Mike Silver in the 90’s. He couldn’t stand Al and it doesn’t surprise me that he would carry the hate to his son.
January 11th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
I like hue jack as coach, he made some critical errors in handling his team in the locker room, and the media, but he pissed off the boss. hopefully he will improve and get another shot. in my eyes he was huge upgrade over the cable guy. I see his loss as collateral damage, wrong place wrong time. If davis was alive he would have reigned him in after the irsh coffee presser, and we would be talking about it.
I like big mack and i like winston moss and darren perry, we will be fine
January 11th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
Alex7 Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
we had a good thing going with Gruden, couldn’t give him the power he deserved. History repeats.
can’t even want to fire your 30th ranked DC and bring in new players.
That’s blasphemy!
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If Bresnahan and co. are sticking around (and it looks like they are), it’s only to break down film, evaluate players, etc. Everyone (including them) knows that the minute the new HC signs his deal, they’re probably gone (unless the new guy wants Woodson to stay on, or Bres can talk himself into an Inside Linebackers’ coach position or somesuch).
January 11th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
look, if we go 7-9 or 8-8, you guys better keep it real and not make excuses.
This next HC will get more say than any Raiders coach…EVER.
If we go 10-6, I’ll be praising Mark.
I’ll drop it now
January 11th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
Alex,
Cherry picking? I’ll go point for point idiot.
1. losing owner – AIG – you hated this guy and thought he was a detriment to our team.
2. losing GM – See point above
3. losing starting QB – Schytt you like Palmer even more than JC and we juggled JC/Grad last year. Debunked.
4. having awful backup QB – We used him for 1 game. LIke we used an injured Grad for 1 game against Miami.
5. losing star RB for 2/3rds of the year. – Didnt Bush put up great numbers and almost had a 1k yds for playing half of the season? Marcel Reece had an even better year this year….whenever he was seldomly used.
6. WRs shuffling in and out with injuries. – DHB was a better player this year. We didnt have Dmoore last year. So what excuses do you have again?
7. Having 30th-ranked D. – Our D declined from last year under who’s watch was this done again? Al Davis died and Hue had more blitzes immediately with more zones and full control of the gameplan. What excuses again?
I’ll add #8 – We had more penalties and even broker a record. So who was the guy in charge when these items happened?
Enough Cherry picking for you?
January 11th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
Hue = Class act.
January 11th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
Oh yeah Bowles was the saftey on the ’skins. Now I remember that name. He was pretty good.
January 11th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
alex7 Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
we had a good thing going with Gruden, couldn’t give him the power he deserved. History repeats.
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MR, Gruden didn’t deserve that power. He had that power in TB and ran that team into the ground. Like here.
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Gruden won a Super Bowl with Tony Dungy’s team against an opponent (us) for whom he’d literally written the entire playbook.
Afterwards? I think he made the playoffs ONCE.
I wouldn’t terribly mind if he came back, but I’m in no way clamoring for it. Sometimes the past should remain the past.
January 11th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
I liked Hue as a OC. Our team sudenly had a offense. His problem as a HC were 2 things:
-Injuries to key players
-He talked to much.
But the guy can coach. And we will see that once he gets a OC job somewehere and builds that offense in the top 5.
January 11th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
M Lonetree Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 4:44 pm
Hue Jack threw his cojones in the ring and they were neutered. So what? Move on children. It’s done.
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Then Jackson blamed everyone for his cojones being in the ring but himself.
January 11th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
Chris In NY Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
Hue = Class act.
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HAHAHAHA.
(I’m going to assume that was understated irony)
January 11th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
Hue Jack pizzed all over himself then defecated on all his players and then asked for forgiveness. Backpedalling doesn’t wipe the waste away.
Reggie and Mark had cause.
January 11th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
Yeah Alex Gruden had some growing pains too as a first time head coach. I remember. I wasn’t harshing on Huge, just saying it’s not like we just fired a 2 time super bowl winning coach…
January 11th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
seymour
“running a team to the ground” = making the playoffs 3 times and winning a Super Bowl.
Left after two 9-7 seasons.
yeah, they’re much better without him. But whatever
January 11th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
Ok people we need to start focusing on who is coming in and HOW can we take this awful division while rebuilding our front office, rebuilding the defense that can NOT get any worse.
1) Offense- keep Saunders or bring in someone who uses the same system and terminology that Hue used. Carson with an offseason, healthy Dmac, same line or a few tweaks, we should be able to maintain the way we play on Offense and improve our red zone scoring
2) Defense- this should be easy, we gave up 433 points, 2nd worse in Franchise history, Evaluate some of our high paid cry babies and fix the scheme or cut some guys. to me since our defense has sucked for 9 years, AND the intelligent Raider fans know that the reason we are not going to Foxborough wascuz of the “d”, brining in a “Defensive” minded coach may be the right way to go while keeping continuity with the Offense. Again, bringing in a new HC who is an offensive HC and a new system does not make any sense.
3) Penalties- I have said Hue was NOT responsible for this as The Raiders have always had issues with penalties.. I blame this on Al. ReggieMac will be the one who finally changes the “culture” of idiotic penalties as either these guys get it or we wil cut Routt or Seymour if they continue with stupid penalties like this year.
No way we take a step backward or Mark will have more issues than just a bad haircut.The Raider Nation stepped up Big-Time this year and showed up for ALL 8 games!!
In our Divison, we need to go 9-7 or 10-6, we have plenty of talent on Offense, Defense can NOT get an worse, and Reggie needs to fix the “Culture” and we be OK!!
January 11th, 2012 at 4:54 pm
like father like son. Hue jack tried to fire coaches with out jr’s blessing and jr said no your gone.
Almost exactly like when cable tried to fire marshal and pops said not so fast.
January 11th, 2012 at 4:54 pm
I said it before but it bears repeating. Hue has a future in politics not in football.
Why? Because he likes spending other peoples money and he is adept at bamboozling gullible people.
January 11th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
if you give Gruden credit for having Dungy’s team in the SB,
you give Gruden credit for the Raiders making the SB.
It’s a weird argument. Gruden wins either way. Did what Dungy couldn’t. Ex-team fell apart 1 year later.
January 11th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
Chris, was Huge’s handling of Jason Campbell and Carson Palmer classy? Didn’t seem like it to me. If anyone was class, it was Jason Campbell. Too bad that kid isn’t much of a starting QB. Great guy…
January 11th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
I liked Hues passion. He just needed to be reigned in. A more assertive owner would have reigned Hue in. Players today can’t take the truth.
January 11th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
palmer the golden hair hero is now officially a stop gap. he better come out of the gate fast in camp, i highly doubt he will finish his contract here if he doesnt.
January 11th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
seymour
“running a team to the ground” = making the playoffs 3 times and winning a Super Bowl.
Left after two 9-7 seasons.
yeah, they’re much better without him. But whatever
January 11th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
On another note, why the hell hasn’t bresnahan been fired!!!
January 11th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
Hue’s agent obviously got him to simmer down and he’s now in full damage control mode…always looking for the next gig.
January 11th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
What I don’t get is the GB defense is terrible, and Winston Moss and Darren Perry are supposed to be our HC & DC?
Reggie is a personnel guy, so in terms of drafting, free agency, etc… I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt.
BUT, listening to him say “all I know is what happened in GB” eerily reminds me of everyone who was highly sought-after leaving New England and how did they all do:
-Weiss
-Crennell
-McDaniels
January 11th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
303 – cause his contract expires in 4 days. Why fire someone when they are leaving anyway?
January 11th, 2012 at 4:59 pm
M lonetree,
As they said in shawshank….my lawyer fked me.
January 11th, 2012 at 4:59 pm
not sold on the whole “Green Bay West” concept and that it automatically means success
January 11th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
303Raider Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
On another note, why the hell hasn’t bresnahan been fired!!!
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hue fired him without permission, jr brought him back and it shows everyone who is in charge. his contract is nearly up, but the new coach will determine who stays and who goes
January 11th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
Jebus, some of you ladies act like we just fired Vince fvcking Lombardi. …
January 11th, 2012 at 6:01 pm
RaiderYYZ Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 4:59 pm
not sold on the whole “Green Bay West” concept and that it automatically means success
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It DOESN’T automatically mean success. But does it give us a good chance at said success? Yes.
Also, the model we’re using will work sooner or later. To wit: hiring a quality football man, giving him control, and getting out of the way.
Does it work every time? Of course not. Does it work a good percentage of the time? Absolutely.
January 11th, 2012 at 6:01 pm
Bresnahan sucks! His first tenure we had way better talent. In Cincinnati the defense got better time he left.
January 11th, 2012 at 6:01 pm
RaiderYYZ.
Stop it.
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What I don’t get is the GB defense is terrible, and Winston Moss and Darren Perry are supposed to be our HC & DC?
Reggie is a personnel guy, so in terms of drafting, free agency, etc… I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt.
BUT, listening to him say “all I know is what happened in GB” eerily reminds me of everyone who was highly sought-after leaving New England and how did they all do:
-Weiss
-Crennell
-McDaniels
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You forgot Eric Mangini and Rob Ryan.
Rex was the only guy who made it for himself.
January 11th, 2012 at 6:02 pm
RaiderYYZ Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 4:59 pm
not sold on the whole “Green Bay West” concept and that it automatically means success
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its not green bay west really. Its a merge of the best practices of ron wolf / al davis and ted thompson.
I would say that is a pretty good tree to spring from
January 11th, 2012 at 6:02 pm
I think Gruden would want too much control, and that was wha got HueJax fired.
Reggie is going to hire “his guy”. He will be heavily criticized if “his guy” has a year that results in anything else but a division record, period!
I mean if we are going to copy any team right ow, I guess GB is the right one!
Only question I have is how did it work out when everyone wanted NEcoaches?
Man genius, Crennel, Pioli, McDeuchbag, and the fat OC from NE so far have all sucked!!!
Reggie, we got your back, but The Nation is NOT very patient right now!
January 11th, 2012 at 6:02 pm
JLofty Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
Jebus, some of you ladies act like we just fired Vince fvcking Lombardi. …
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Just a like a year ago, when we fired Cable and suddenly everyone loved him…
January 11th, 2012 at 6:03 pm
76.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 4:54 pm
like father like son. Hue jack tried to fire coaches with out jr’s blessing and jr said no your gone.
Almost exactly like when cable tried to fire marshal and pops said not so fast.
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And like Kiffin trying to get Rob Ryan fired so his dad could come in. Wish Kiffin had won that one though.
January 11th, 2012 at 6:04 pm
JLofty Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
Chris, was Huge’s handling of Jason Campbell and Carson Palmer classy? Didn’t seem like it to me. If anyone was class, it was Jason Campbell. Too bad that kid isn’t much of a starting QB. Great guy…
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Chris is a known Hue Jack apologist, and now a pillow biter, the man is steamed that his snake oil salesman got the boot, nothing else to see here.
Build a bully, LMFAO!
January 11th, 2012 at 6:04 pm
Mistic and Jlofty:
Thank you for educating me on this. I just wish the dude would be out, his unit did nothing and he is the last piece of the old regime!!!
January 11th, 2012 at 6:04 pm
I wouldn’t be surprised if they cut ties with Carson and go after Matt Flynn.
Carson only has $2.5 mill guaranteed on his 2012 contract (only $7.5mill of the rest of his renegotiated deal was guaranteed).
Reggie didn’t exactly seem to be in love with Carson yesterday, and why not bring in the young possible stud QB if you really want to start over?
January 11th, 2012 at 6:05 pm
Jeez , that article is a joke. What a smear job from a subjective hack job.
“With all of that said, many people see Jackson as a rising star in this profession, and I am one of them.”
Well Michael, It’s well known around the league about Hue and his power hungry ways. Hell step on you on the way up and on the way down. His past co- workers from oth teams do not speak highly of him.
He wanted power and personnel control that was added to his contract after Al died. That didn’t jive with Reggie since he is the real GM now. Sometimes Hue seemed genuine to me and carried the flag, but other times I could see through his facade and double talk. I wish Hue well. But I am sick of shady people in this organization.
January 11th, 2012 at 6:05 pm
Hue had passion…”at the end of day”
January 11th, 2012 at 6:05 pm
alex7 Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
seymour
“running a team to the ground” = making the playoffs 3 times and winning a Super Bowl.
Left after two 9-7 seasons.
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Immediately after winning the Super Bowl he posted a losing season. Twice. In 6 seasons he had three winning years after Inheriting a Super Bowl team. And he left a complete disaster. That is the very definition of running a team into the ground.
January 11th, 2012 at 6:07 pm
Hue was the NFl equivalent of the Hospice Nurse that comes in at the end of the patriarch’s life and milks him out of the deed to his estate…
Now he’s getting some Hack writers to run a smear campaign to help him get another gig so he can be their ‘unnamed source’ again…
The Old Snake Oil Salesman only knows one way,
I feel better about his ousting with each passing minute.
January 11th, 2012 at 6:07 pm
RaiderYYZ Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 6:04 pm
I wouldn’t be surprised if they cut ties with Carson and go after Matt Flynn.
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That would really depend on the offensive philosophies of McKenzie and the offensive staff. But why you would get rid of a proven upper tier Q for an unproven one is beyond me.
January 11th, 2012 at 6:07 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
303Raider Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
On another note, why the hell hasn’t bresnahan been fired!!!
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hue fired him without permission, jr brought him back and it shows everyone who is in charge. his contract is nearly up, but the new coach will determine who stays and who goes
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That is some stupid backwards logic right there.
So far the company line is that the new GM will make all decisions regarding the HC. Thus the HC makes the decision about who his assistants are.
Your conspiracies are falling all over them selves, get a grip.
January 11th, 2012 at 6:08 pm
Let’s give Mark Davis credit:
The only way that we were going to get a quality GM was to let him have full control, period.
Is there an example of a GM coming in, letting the previous HC stay and be successful?
January 11th, 2012 at 6:10 pm
RaiderYYZ Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 6:04 pm
I wouldn’t be surprised if they cut ties with Carson and go after Matt Flynn.
Carson only has $2.5 mill guaranteed on his 2012 contract (only $7.5mill of the rest of his renegotiated deal was guaranteed).
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My understanding has Palmer guaranteed 5 million this year.
January 11th, 2012 at 6:11 pm
97.RaiderDebo Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 6:03 pm
76.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 4:54 pm
like father like son. Hue jack tried to fire coaches with out jr’s blessing and jr said no your gone.
Almost exactly like when cable tried to fire marshal and pops said not so fast.
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And like Kiffin trying to get Rob Ryan fired so his dad could come in. Wish Kiffin had won that one though.
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Any one of those guys should have known that it was lunacy to try and fire ANY of Al’s assistants without his blessings, much less the defensive ones.
He ran the team, and he ran the defense. How can you not know that?
January 11th, 2012 at 6:12 pm
On a separate note, I’m reall getting sick of Donktown. Everyone is “Teblowing” each other around here and it makes me sick. I have instructed everyone in my house to run over anyone in a Shebow jersey if they are walking in the street.
What makes it worse is I have to root for The Cheatriots to beat The Donks!!
That is really screwing with my psyche!!
January 11th, 2012 at 6:13 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 6:07 pm
RaiderYYZ Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 6:04 pm
I wouldn’t be surprised if they cut ties with Carson and go after Matt Flynn.
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That would really depend on the offensive philosophies of McKenzie and the offensive staff. But why you would get rid of a proven upper tier Q for an unproven one is beyond me.
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He’s not unproven to Reggie McKenzie, Moss & Perry…
I think Flynn is a superstar in the making. The game he played last year in New England was VERY GOOD. Rocket arm, mobile, can make all the throws.
McKenzie wants “his guy”. This means he wants west coast offense like Green Bay most likely. This suits the system Flynn has been in.
January 11th, 2012 at 6:14 pm
Todd Bowles as Hue Jackson’s Defensive Coordinator would have been nice, oh well.
As far as Mark Davis, he never said he’s a football genius or anything, he practically acknowledged he was in over his head as Mike Silver’s article suggests, so he went out and hired a qualified GM prospect, can’t fault him for that.
January 11th, 2012 at 6:15 pm
Don’t worry 303. The beatdown that is coming to Sheblows and Dungver this weekend will end this til next season.
January 11th, 2012 at 6:18 pm
RaiderYYZ Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 6:04 pm
I wouldn’t be surprised if they cut ties with Carson and go after Matt Flynn.
Carson only has $2.5 mill guaranteed on his 2012 contract (only $7.5mill of the rest of his renegotiated deal was guaranteed).
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My understanding has Palmer guaranteed 5 million this year.
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My mistake, it is $5 mill guaranteed for 2012. I think it’s still possible tho based on how Flynn’s contract is structured as if Carson is on the team for 2012, his salary is $12.5 mill. I think you can get Flynn at $7.5, and definitely less than $13 & $15 in 2013 & 2014.
Think about it
January 11th, 2012 at 6:19 pm
Reggie McKenzie interviewed with John Madden. You don’t think Hue Jackson didn’t come up in the interview? C’mon.
January 11th, 2012 at 6:19 pm
85.RaiderYYZ Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
What I don’t get is the GB defense is terrible, and Winston Moss and Darren Perry are supposed to be our HC & DC?
Reggie is a personnel guy, so in terms of drafting, free agency, etc… I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt.
BUT, listening to him say “all I know is what happened in GB” eerily reminds me of everyone who was highly sought-after leaving New England and how did they all do:
-Weiss
-Crennell
-McDaniels
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Those guys are coaches. Pioli is turning KC around. He made a mistake with Haley, but his team will be much improved next year. A lot of young talent there, and he drafted most of them.
Dmitroff in Atlanta is another former Patriot front-office type. Remember how bad they were before he got there.
The coaches haven’t done well at all (I think the jury’s still out on Crennell, though. He was in a bad situation in Cleveland), but the “process” guys seem to be different.
January 11th, 2012 at 6:22 pm
He’s not unproven to Reggie McKenzie, Moss & Perry…
I think Flynn is a superstar in the making. The game he played last year in New England was VERY GOOD. Rocket arm, mobile, can make all the throws.
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I like Matt Flynn. What Flynn has really done the last three years is work on his arm strength. My point is he has what, 2 or 3 career starts? Opponent defensive coordinators do not have enough on him to start game planning him. Once they do, let the games begin. Until that happens, he is unproven.
January 11th, 2012 at 6:26 pm
http://s.ecrater.com/stores/75577/4a8d708c0bf51_75577b.jpg
January 11th, 2012 at 6:26 pm
GoodOle00 Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
19. REGGIE is the one who seems power drunk now
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You are an idiot. GMs fire and hire people. That is what they get payed to do.
January 11th, 2012 at 6:27 pm
Edward we’ll have none of that logic and sound thinking in here today mister!
We’re all p!$$ed off that we fired Vince fvcking Lombardi and none of your rational speak is going to change that. So just stop.
January 11th, 2012 at 6:28 pm
Great pic Morilla!!
January 11th, 2012 at 6:28 pm
LOL Albert. I don’t think he was serious tho…
January 11th, 2012 at 6:28 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 6:22 pm
He’s not unproven to Reggie McKenzie, Moss & Perry…
I think Flynn is a superstar in the making. The game he played last year in New England was VERY GOOD. Rocket arm, mobile, can make all the throws.
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I like Matt Flynn. What Flynn has really done the last three years is work on his arm strength. My point is he has what, 2 or 3 career starts? Opponent defensive coordinators do not have enough on him to start game planning him. Once they do, let the games begin. Until that happens, he is unproven.
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Definitely a risk, but who would know what you really have in Matt Flynn then Reggie? McCarthy had a quote after his 6 TD game about how “the whole world got to see what we already knew”.
McKenzie knows what Flynn is, experience or not.
January 11th, 2012 at 6:29 pm
Huebris needs to get over himself. Regardless of what he said his actions punched his ticket out of town. . .after the latest anti-Raider expose by Mixhael (great haircut!) Silver I expect to see him join Huebris for a mani-pedi soon. . .
January 11th, 2012 at 6:29 pm
Got to admit I like the sound of a couple of ex-linebackers running things. Good LBs are smart and mean/tough/etc.
January 11th, 2012 at 6:31 pm
I hope Mark Davis finds a way to sue Mike Silver and Yahoo for defamation. And the last few articles comments sections, it’s becoming evident how people like Chris in NY etc are getting inspired to get more and more childish and brazen in their attacks on Reggie and Mark, like they’re having a good time kicking back. If we thought they’d get over it by yesterday, they’re actually increasing like a campaign against Reggie, Mark and the Raiders.
I have lost all respect for you guys.
January 11th, 2012 at 6:32 pm
JLofty Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 6:29 pm
Got to admit I like the sound of a couple of ex-linebackers running things. Good LBs are smart and mean/tough/etc.
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Like Millen?
January 11th, 2012 at 6:33 pm
I wouldnt mind bringing in todd bowles just from rrading his background info. If he is good with secondary then him and rod would do wonders eith the corners and safeties. Just dont bring back lito because after that SD game should be enough
January 11th, 2012 at 6:33 pm
I expect the Raiders to make one step forward (Flynn, surrounded by former packer coaches ) and two steps backwards (trading Palmer, loosing valuable sal cap space, trading DMAC, inserting young players in new systems but gelling as the year goes along. . .after 3-5 start the Raiders finish with a 9-7 record, again barely missing the playoffs (to the disChargers) with an offseason of hope. . .again. . .
January 11th, 2012 at 6:34 pm
RaiderYYZ Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 6:13 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 6:07 pm
RaiderYYZ Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 6:04 pm
I wouldn’t be surprised if they cut ties with Carson and go after Matt Flynn.
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That would really depend on the offensive philosophies of McKenzie and the offensive staff. But why you would get rid of a proven upper tier Q for an unproven one is beyond me.
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He’s not unproven to Reggie McKenzie, Moss & Perry…
I think Flynn is a superstar in the making. The game he played last year in New England was VERY GOOD. Rocket arm, mobile, can make all the throws.
McKenzie wants “his guy”. This means he wants west coast offense like Green Bay most likely. This suits the system Flynn has been in.
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One last thing is Matt Flynn is being coached by the best in the business in Tom Clements. Aaron Rodgers gives all his credit to Clements. It’s kind of eerie to hear Rodgers speak so glowingly of Clements and never once mention Tedford in his QB development. If Reggie is going to bring “his guys” here, Tom Clements would be at the top of my wish list. Especially with Tyrell Pryor sitting in the wings.
January 11th, 2012 at 6:35 pm
Mark Davis IS Tommy Boy. . .Does mark have a receeding hairline? Something has to be done with the adolescent chili bowl haircut! is he waiting for a Grateful Dead reunion?
January 11th, 2012 at 6:35 pm
JLofty Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 6:29 pm
Got to admit I like the sound of a couple of ex-linebackers running things. Good LBs are smart and mean/tough/etc.
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I agree, the more I think about it I think the smart move would be Moss. From what I’ve heard he is a bada$$ and gets things done. Being an Asst. Head Coach for GB and having ties to Reggie doesn’t hurt either.
January 11th, 2012 at 6:35 pm
I remember when Flynn played last year for an injured Rodgers and almost beat the Pats.
January 11th, 2012 at 6:36 pm
Rodgers looked mechanical playing for Tedford. . .wonder if Clements aspires to be an OC. . .
January 11th, 2012 at 6:36 pm
c’mpn KK. give the log.
Mark Davis as owner.
5-6.
January 11th, 2012 at 6:36 pm
Interesting. Was Gruden working in green bay when McKenzie was?
January 11th, 2012 at 6:37 pm
Raiderfankirk Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 6:36 pm
Interesting. Was Gruden working in green bay when McKenzie was?
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Yeah, he was.
January 11th, 2012 at 6:38 pm
126.GG Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 6:31 pm
I hope Mark Davis finds a way to sue Mike Silver and Yahoo for defamation.
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LOL! How can he sue for defamation if it’s all true?
January 11th, 2012 at 6:38 pm
wonder if Chris Long’s dad will weigh in on his teammate Reggie.
January 11th, 2012 at 6:39 pm
Sounds like Bowles was too…
January 11th, 2012 at 6:39 pm
I say give Chris some leeway. He has been a top tier semi pro in here for some time. He always brings great stuff.
So I give him rep for taking his stance. He has earned it.
January 11th, 2012 at 6:39 pm
Anyone hear a rumor Rob Ryan is on the short list, most likely to come in as HC?
Obviously mark wants a defense minded coach cause:
1-our d sucked and was the wink link
2-saunders will remain and call the plays
3-tebow has oakland concerned so are going to emphsize defense
4-no need for an offense minded coach cuz our offense is in place
January 11th, 2012 at 6:40 pm
A look into the General Manager position, written by a longtime NFL Agent Jack Bechta, from the National Football Post:
General Manager Job Description.
Wanted:
Individual who can evaluate talent, work well with others, deal with the media, lead, manage, build and put together a winning and profitable blueprint for a billion dollar company. Note: if you did this job elsewhere with average results, you need not apply.
Today’s GM is a bit different than yesterday’s GM as they now work under a microscope for the world to see. Todays GM has more moving parts to deal with and a fan base that now has access to almost as much information on players and coaches as he does. The media has demystified this position and now every one thinks they can play GM.
The skill set needed:
Leadership:
Any agent will tell you that we constantly hear scouts; personnel directors, players and coaches make fun of and talk about their own GM in a negative way. It’s a way for these people to distance themselves from their boss when things are going wrong. A GM who has the ability to lead and command respect will get more out of his staff and be able to keep the ship sailing in stormy seas.
If you worked or played for the Colts, there was never any doubt who the leader was. Bill Polian was the captain of the ship and no one within the organization ever questioned his authority or decisions. However, leadership skills can only take you so far without a back-up quarterback plan.
Evaluator of talent:
No doubt, your number one skill set should be that of an evaluator of talent. Today’s and yesterday’s top GM’s can recognize good players and coaches.
Former GM’s Ron Wolf/Packers, John Butler/Chargers, George Young/Giants, and Bobby Beathard/Redskins/Chargers all had an exceptional eye for talent.
Ted Thompson/Packers, Kevin Colbert/Steelers, Scott Pioli/Chiefs, and Thomas Dimitroff are all former scouts who you can still find on the road and watching film almost everyday.
Recent hires such as Reggie McKenzie/Raiders, John Schneider/Seahawks, Trent Baalke/49ers and Ryan Grigson/Colts all hail from the scouting side of the business.
The ability of a team to consistently keep their pipeline full of talent via the draft (best example are the Steelers) will always be guaranteed a high degree of success.
A Strong Personality:
Imagine a job where you have to deal with personalities such as Bill Parcels, Mike Ditka, Rex Ryan, Jim Harbaugh, John Gruden, Bill Cowher, Jimmy Johnson, and Tom Coughlin.
These guys are individuals who coach with passion and conviction. They are demanding and have strong opinions. A GM must have a personality that can work daily with other strong personalities without it spiraling into personal confrontations and power struggles.
A GM has to be able to communicate effectively with all types of people and not wilt when being challenged. Dealing with demanding agents can take some metal as well.
AJ Smith/Chargers, Ozzie Newsome/Ravens, Bruce Allen/Redskins, and Buddy Nix of the Bills set clear boundaries for their team and make sure everyone’s role is defined. Sometimes, too strong of a personality can alienate too many people and be a bad thing.
Media skills:
Yesterdays GM usually had one friendly and one pesky beat writer to deal with. Today’s GM has an army of bloggers, local and a wide spectrum of national critics to answer to.
A GM doesn’t necessarily have to talk to the media everyday but he better have a plan as to how the team communicates with them. If a GM alienates today’s media hoard, they will quickly rise up against him. If he helps them to do their jobs he will be treated more fairly and even with some patience.
Owners are more sensitive to the media then fans realize. They want a GM and a head coach that will insulate them and even take bullets for them. Today’s GMs cannot ignore the media like most of yesterday’s GMs did.
Thomas Dimitroff/Falcons, Mike Tannenbaum/Jets, Trent Baalke/49ers, and Mark Dominik/Bucs are known for being somewhat media savvy and friendly GMs.
A Numbers man:
You can be a great evaluator of talent, a competent communicator and leader but you better understand the salary cap and your team’s economics. Even though the majority of teams have a salary cap manager today to crunch numbers daily, the GM still has to understand players’ contracts, values and the long term impact of a certain salary structure on a team’s cap health.
A GM must always be thinking at least three years ahead with every move he makes. He has to avoid the potential for dead money deals, and anticipate a few of his mid-round picks blossoming into the leagues highest paid talent.
Low profile GM Mickey Loomis of the Saints may be the closest thing the NFL has to Billy Bean. Mickey started out as an accountant, then cap guy and eventually took the reigns as GM.
He has been known to fit a player into a salary then the other way around. He is a value proposition GM who listens to and trusts his scouts and coaches. He also takes the time to educate his people on his own cap restraints and challenges them to find value players. In his efforts to deliver a very large long-term contract for Drew Brees, he is also trying to figure out how he will keep his team intact or replace those he won’t be able to afford.
Today’s GM must possess a more diverse skill set then yesterday’s GM. If he is strong in evaluating talent, he has to aggressively spend time learning the other facets of the job.
A successful GM must also learn that he can’t do it alone and has to rely heavily on the people he hires. If they don’t work out, he has to be quick to fire them regardless of what the media and fans think.
It can be a lonely and thankless job as well because of the demanding cycle of the business. Furthermore, when his team does win, the spoils are usually heaped on the players and coaches with most all assuming he was lucky to have them.
January 11th, 2012 at 6:41 pm
No way we are getting Flynn. WE just spent an entire draft on QB’.
A first and second for CP
A third for TP
a fourth for JC.
Well almost a draft.
Reggie will have to find a back up on waivers untill he grooms one
January 11th, 2012 at 6:42 pm
antispy3 Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 6:36 pm
Rodgers looked mechanical playing for Tedford. . .wonder if Clements aspires to be an OC. . .
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Exactly. When you watch Rodgers go thru his pre snap reads, change the play, go thru his progressions, that is all Clements. Rodgers says he knows exactly what an opponent is going to do. I don’t think Clements would play call, HC maybe….
January 11th, 2012 at 6:45 pm
My goodness, it was the shower, or lack of the shower’s fault.
Hue is back peddling so fast he’s going to break an ankle.
January 11th, 2012 at 6:45 pm
All Hail blog psuedopersons.
All Hail inveterate inexactitude.
All Hail the unknowing.
All Hail opinionations.
Amen.
January 11th, 2012 at 6:45 pm
If Tebow and the Broncos beat the Patriots, the rest of the AFC West will have some serious issues. Denver is getting all the confidence out of being in the playoffs. They can smell it and will be the hungriest because of how close they are to that big kitchen in the sky.
January 11th, 2012 at 6:46 pm
haha no way Reggie hires Ryan
Reggie is no nonsense and will demand you give 100 percent as well brains, a work ethic and a track record.
I bet Robs track record = C-
January 11th, 2012 at 6:47 pm
2012 – the year of the boar hunter.
January 11th, 2012 at 6:48 pm
As long as bres is gone im good
January 11th, 2012 at 6:49 pm
LowFly,
except for bowing subsequent failure is yesterday’s news.
January 11th, 2012 at 6:49 pm
BewareofRaiders Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 6:48 pm
As long as bres is gone im good
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He aint gone yet. Inside info tells me he may or may not be back tho.
January 11th, 2012 at 6:50 pm
There have been instances of lawyers successfully suing a person on the internet for defamation. Read about one the other day — on a blog on fashion, an anonymous poster called a model a skank, and the model sued, successfully getting google to find out who the person was with IP etc, and then they sued that person for defamation.
January 11th, 2012 at 6:51 pm
Hello Bob
Thats a great read and I really believe Reggie grades high on all those qualities. I am backing him all the way.
One thing is for sure. Players will not leave his office thinking
“what a dummy, I can do what ever I want”
January 11th, 2012 at 6:54 pm
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# Seymour Bush Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
Todd Bowles is a nice coaching prospect. A tiny bit of Head Coaching tenure, a former starter on a Super Bowl team, and there is no doubt he can coach DB’s. We could do worse.
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Bowles should the secondary coach of this team IF anything.
Oh and here comes the trolls or supposed Raider fans coming in here now ripping M Davis and McKenzie, when they haven’t even hired a coaching staff, organized the personnel dept or played, drafted, or signed players or even played a damn game yet?
Weirdos.
January 11th, 2012 at 6:55 pm
Plunketthead,
yourself and Marley Esq. are two of the saner sobriquets to visit this site.
gracias senhor et esq.
January 11th, 2012 at 6:55 pm
Plunketthead Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 6:41 pm
No way we are getting Flynn. WE just spent an entire draft on QB’.
A first and second for CP
A third for TP
a fourth for JC.
Well almost a draft.
Reggie will have to find a back up on waivers until he grooms one
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consider the picks a sunk cost. A “new era” can’t worry about what was done in the previous one. I’m not saying it’s happening, but it makes a lot of sense. Flynn is pretty much a Reggie draft pick
January 11th, 2012 at 6:56 pm
Whoever McKenzie hires as the head coach and staff, they better bring an exciting, smart and disciplined brand of football and they better know their X’s and O’s and have legit schemes on offense and defense.
Say what u want about Hue Jackson, but he brought excitement back to this Raider team without a doubt.
January 11th, 2012 at 6:58 pm
Raiders short list of possible head coaches:
Bowles
Moss
Gruden
Madden
Cowher
Fisher
Myles
X Ryan
Tomlin
Mora
Greene
Morris
Granderson
Haley
Shell
Bierman
Shaw
Lancaster
Doyle
Traverson
Mangini
Williams
Clancy
Habers
Faust
Carlson
Friend of mine told me this. Sure doesn’t seem like a short list to me.
January 11th, 2012 at 6:59 pm
best Jim Mora intonation – “Draft Picks?! You wanna talk draft Picks?!”
January 11th, 2012 at 7:02 pm
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d825ea810/article/ousted-coach-jackson-denies-he-wanted-total-control-of-raiders?module=HP11_headline_stack
January 11th, 2012 at 7:03 pm
Good news is we have those “exciting” players on offense.
We keep the same philosophy: Run first, play action go deep with our speed.
We really need an identity on Defense., and we HAVE to finally stop the frickin run once and for all.
Brining in a defensive minded HC sounds like a great plan considering that side of the ball has plagued this team since 2002.
January 11th, 2012 at 7:03 pm
Bowles btw is a very exciting coaching prospect. Shows Reggie knows his stuff that he interviewed him first up. Has him high on his short list.
January 11th, 2012 at 7:04 pm
Getting Gruden back would be absolutely fantastic, but that is practically a dream.
If they Moss, no doubt the defense can only go up from here, because they can’t get any worse than they were this past season. Only way to go is up.
I just hope and pray the OFFENSE does not regress.
That would be horrific.
January 11th, 2012 at 7:04 pm
I don’t understand, but with Winston Moss or D. Perry being the favorite. Isn’t Green Bay’s defense ranked 31 or 32? How is that an improvement???
January 11th, 2012 at 7:04 pm
lettuce head Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 6:49 pm
BewareofRaiders Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 6:48 pm
As long as bres is gone im good
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He aint gone yet. Inside info tells me he may or may not be back tho.
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Who do you think you are, Chris Mortensen?
January 11th, 2012 at 7:05 pm
If would be good to see Bowles as DB coach or the DC.
I don’t want to see him as the Head Coach though.
January 11th, 2012 at 7:06 pm
lettuce head Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 6:58 pm
Raiders short list of possible head coaches:
Bowles
Moss
Gruden
Madden
Cowher
Fisher
Myles
X Ryan
Tomlin
Mora
Greene
Morris
Granderson
Haley
Shell
Bierman
Shaw
Lancaster
Doyle
Traverson
Mangini
Williams
Clancy
Habers
Faust
Carlson
Friend of mine told me this. Sure doesn’t seem like a short list to me.
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LOL. Looks more like a phone book than a short list.
January 11th, 2012 at 7:06 pm
this whole thing is concerning. A slight improvement on D and we were a play-off team WITH Run DMC out for most of the season, transition at QB which cost us the first Chiefs game, Shaunnessey hurt us a lot.
Teams should be able to overcome this stuff, but now it seems like things are ready to be blown up as if we were coming off another 5-11 season.
January 11th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
303Raider Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 7:03 pm
Good news is we have those “exciting” players on offense.
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For now. We’ll have to wait and see how many are traded or cut. Whether or not the next coach or OC will put them in position to get the most out of them is also a major question mark.
January 11th, 2012 at 7:09 pm
Chuck B is not coming back….he is done!
If Hue as let go, then it would insane to keep Chuck B around ahead of Hue??
That would be a scary prospect.
January 11th, 2012 at 7:11 pm
Bring back Hue.
Fire Chuck.
It is that simple.
January 11th, 2012 at 7:13 pm
RaiderYYZ Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 7:06 pm
this whole thing is concerning. A slight improvement on D and we were a play-off team WITH Run DMC out for most of the season, transition at QB which cost us the first Chiefs game, Shaunnessey hurt us a lot.
Teams should be able to overcome this stuff, but now it seems like things are ready to be blown up as if we were coming off another 5-11 season.
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Tell me about it.
Yet the media, with the exception of Mike Silver, is praising the fact that we’ll have some continuity now. LMAO. This move does nothing but ensure there will be no continuity in the short term. Those writers just come off as brain dead cliche-regurgitators sometimes.
January 11th, 2012 at 7:16 pm
Chris in NY Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 7:13 pm
RaiderYYZ Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 7:06 pm
this whole thing is concerning. A slight improvement on D and we were a play-off team WITH Run DMC out for most of the season, transition at QB which cost us the first Chiefs game, Shaunnessey hurt us a lot.
Teams should be able to overcome this stuff, but now it seems like things are ready to be blown up as if we were coming off another 5-11 season.
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Tell me about it.
Yet the media, with the exception of Mike Silver, is praising the fact that we’ll have some continuity now. LMAO. This move does nothing but ensure there will be no continuity in the short term. Those writers just come off as brain dead cliche-regurgitators sometimes.
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I agree.
That Adam Schein comes come off as the biggest baffoon of all.
His articles usually have no facts to support his claims.
His article on Hue was horrible on foxsports.com
January 11th, 2012 at 7:16 pm
http://www.freepriesttjnow.org
What would Priesttj do?
January 11th, 2012 at 7:16 pm
I wonder if Chucky B is on the short list for head coaching positions.
January 11th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
Chuck will be gone. It’s all for show to demonstrate that the next coach can pick his assistants including any holdovers from the old staff they might be interested in.
Realistically, what new head coach is going to bring back a guy who’s defense was in hte bottom few last season.
Chuck is toast, but unfortunately, the same can probably be said for Saunders, Wylie, Wizniewski and Fassel.
January 11th, 2012 at 7:18 pm
Albert Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 7:16 pm
I wonder if Chucky B is on the short list for head coaching positions.
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I’m sure he is but can you imagine the trauma that would cause if it were made public.
January 11th, 2012 at 7:18 pm
two interesting things I heard in the past early morning
when the Mike and Mike’s were doing there their due diligence of crapping on the Raiders none other than Schefter (yes, that Schefter the Raider hater) told them they had no idea what twists and turns Mark Davis has had to negotiate since Big Al’s death. that shut the boys up directly.
second, when Herm Edwards came on the show he reiterated the same thing others have said. The NFL is much better when the Raiders are competitive and in the mix for a championship.
January 11th, 2012 at 7:22 pm
Chris,
How hard is it to put an offense together with Palmer, McFadden, DHB, Moore, and Ford as your weapons?
Not really fair to say that our offense will retreat to numbers prior to Hue because we now have MUCH better players at EVERY position.
January 11th, 2012 at 7:22 pm
Coaching wish list:
HC – Hue
OC – Saunders
DC – Mark’s barber (Obviously a sadist and a butcher. Would surely be aggressive in attacking opposing QBs.)
January 11th, 2012 at 7:23 pm
I was and still like HueJax but what I’ve come to realize that really in the long term what we needed was a GM like most teams.
all GM’s want there guy and I believe Reggie was more comftorable with his own guy PLUS HueJax did not do himself any favors with his press conference asking for more power.
I wish Hue the best, he made us believe again as we showed up for ALL 8 games. He went 6-0 on the road in our division, and he brought back the “vertical” passing game that we grew up watching!
We ALL need to focus on the new regime, Reggie, Mark Davis, and whoever our new HC is going to be , we need to support them.
The only things I ask are: Keep the offensive system and terminology intact, Fix that crappy Defense that gave up433 points, once and for all change our “culture” of penalties and stupid plays.
We still can and will compete in this division as there is NO Juggernaut inThe AFC West.
I believe but will watching closely….
January 11th, 2012 at 7:24 pm
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January 11th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
Chris in NY Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 7:22 pm
Coaching wish list:
HC – Hue
OC – Saunders
DC – Mark’s barber (Obviously a sadist and a butcher. Would surely be aggressive in attacking opposing QBs.)
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January 11th, 2012 at 7:27 pm
Here’s why I’m worried about our short-term future:
We have a bunch of players who fit a certain type of system. We have McKenzie coming over who likes a totally different type of system.
He has his own view of the type of players to pick.
He’ll bring in new guys. But, at first this won’t mesh with what we have now, so there’ll be a “building period”.
I personally am pretty darned sick of building periods.
Long term it might be good. Short term it sucks.
January 11th, 2012 at 7:27 pm
Gents…check out this post from Florio at PFT. Discuss amongst yourselves.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/11/mark-davis-deserves-the-benefit-of-the-doubt-for-now/
January 11th, 2012 at 7:29 pm
M Lonetree Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 7:18 pm
two interesting things I heard in the past early morning
when the Mike and Mike’s were doing there their due diligence of crapping on the Raiders none other than Schefter (yes, that Schefter the Raider hater) told them they had no idea what twists and turns Mark Davis has had to negotiate since Big Al’s death. that shut the boys up directly.
second, when Herm Edwards came on the show he reiterated the same thing others have said. The NFL is much better when the Raiders are competitive and in the mix for a championship.
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Herm loves the Raiders. Don’t know that I’d want him as HC, but I do appreciate the respect he gives us. Bay area roots.
Could’ve possibly made a good DC alongside Hue, though he’s all tied into that Tampa-2 system.
January 11th, 2012 at 7:29 pm
Now, I asked something yesterday. Didn’t see any responses.
Can ANYONE name 3 people who are available that we can bring in that will give us a better chance to get to the playoffs than keeping Hue and bringing in a top-notch Defensive Coordinator?
Anyone think with the offense intact as it is now and at least a half-way descent (not record breakingly bad) defense we wouldn’t be in the play offs?
So, who do we know for sure will give us a better chance at that than what we had now with a change in DC?
January 11th, 2012 at 7:30 pm
We had a system in place that just needed a few tweeks and a legit DC, minor fcking adjustments by any stretch of the imagination, and we schitt can it all with the firing of HueJax and are now looking at a 3-5 year ‘building’ process. Makes no fcking sense at all.
January 11th, 2012 at 7:31 pm
J Hill Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 7:22 pm
Chris,
How hard is it to put an offense together with Palmer, McFadden, DHB, Moore, and Ford as your weapons?
Not really fair to say that our offense will retreat to numbers prior to Hue because we now have MUCH better players at EVERY position.
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We have more talent on offense this year than even last year and we scored less points. Less points, worst D performance and more penalties. I miss Al Davis. I doubt Al would have allowed Branch, Boyd, McClain and Mitchell to cover Megatron in a zone. Was Hue in charge of the gameplan or Mark Davis?
Will someone pls tell me how Hue improved us this year? Tom Cable achieved the same record with Al Davis effin him on his paycheck every week.
January 11th, 2012 at 7:32 pm
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January 11th, 2012 at 7:32 pm
I like what’s happening so far.
Bring in a GM who knows what he’s doing and get to work.
Switch to the 3-4 defense and let’s go!
January 11th, 2012 at 7:33 pm
Guys the problem with all of that is we needed a new GM and there is no example where a new GM comes in and keeps the previous HC and has success.
Hue had to go. I agree that for next year Hue was the best bet to run the offense but we needed a GM and Reggie wants his own guy, and that is as simple as that.
January 11th, 2012 at 7:34 pm
The reason we scored less points this year was because our D left the opposition on the field for like, forever. Barely had the ball enough times to score.
January 11th, 2012 at 7:35 pm
Now that we’re totally going nutz on this. What I think we should do is bring in a defensive minded head coach. Bring in a strong D-Coordinator. Keep Al Saunders to run the offense. Keep the O’Line Coach who did a good job. Totally revamp the defensive coaching staff except for maybe Waufle.
January 11th, 2012 at 7:35 pm
Keep Fossel as Special Teams Coach. Each year he seems to be growing more into that role.
January 11th, 2012 at 7:37 pm
303Raider Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 7:33 pm
Guys the problem with all of that is we needed a new GM and there is no example where a new GM comes in and keeps the previous HC and has success.
Hue had to go. I agree that for next year Hue was the best bet to run the offense but we needed a GM and Reggie wants his own guy, and that is as simple as that.
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The reason for that is that a new GM normally comes in because of a major disaster (like Indy this year) where BIG changes are needed. So of course he wants to TOTALLY sweep clean.
In our case, we’re one game out of the playoffs with an OBVIOUS GLARING f’ing super-massive sized defensive problem to fix.
January 11th, 2012 at 7:37 pm
And the reason why we scored less is we only had Dmac healthy for 6 games to add to lettuce heads comment.
Every smart Raider fan knows the D was to blame for us not to win this division.
Either way it doesn’t matter as: “In Reggie We Trust”
January 11th, 2012 at 7:37 pm
“Maybe Mark Davis opted to move on from Hue Jackson because Hue Jackson behaved too much like Al Davis — and maybe Mark Davis believes the Raiders can be run without big egos, hot tempers, or dismissive comments.”
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It sure seemed like Hue thought of himself as the next Al Davis.
January 11th, 2012 at 7:38 pm
We have McKenzie coming over who likes a totally different type of system.
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You’re talking defense, right?
Defensively speaking, we have no where to go but up, so I welcome the change in play caller.
More importantly, I hope to see an upgrade in talent from a depth perspective. I think that was one of our major downfalls this past season.
Gio, Mitchell, Blackstock, Sheppard types need to be upgraded first and foremost.
January 11th, 2012 at 7:38 pm
Cable was out of his depth being an offensive-minded HC, you heard DMac even have to insist and suggest plays over and over. Any OC or offensive-minded replacement in there was going to work wonders with the talent we had on offense. Jackson did a lot of good things as an OC. But becoming a HC took him away from what he can focus on and excel at. It’s that Peter Principle that someone wisely mentioned once. Then Hue lost the plot post-Al.
Reggie coming in will right the ship, the effects long-term. What was needed post-Al regardless what Hue achieved or didn’t achieve in 2011, he was always going to end up being a stop-gap if Al were still alive, with another HC hire in 2012, and more of the same dysfunction for years to come.
A step back to take three or more forward and hold that forwards position for a decade is the long-term effect of Reggie’s hire. But don’t be surprised even 2012 we see an immediate improvement, tho no one right now would predict it, i am extremely confident of it, because i appreciate what it means having Reggie specifically running the show now.
January 11th, 2012 at 7:40 pm
RaiderzMaverick;
I’m with you on your last post, check my post earlier, I’ve been saying tha all day.
Bring in a defensive HC and keep the offensive system and terminology the same and we should,improve and compete for our division.
Jus hope HueJax doesn’t get hired for an OC by the Chefs, Donks, or Superchokers.
January 11th, 2012 at 7:40 pm
aig-raiders Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 7:31 pm
J Hill Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 7:22 pm
Chris,
How hard is it to put an offense together with Palmer, McFadden, DHB, Moore, and Ford as your weapons?
Not really fair to say that our offense will retreat to numbers prior to Hue because we now have MUCH better players at EVERY position.
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We have more talent on offense this year than even last year and we scored less points. Less points, worst D performance and more penalties. I miss Al Davis. I doubt Al would have allowed Branch, Boyd, McClain and Mitchell to cover Megatron in a zone. Was Hue in charge of the gameplan or Mark Davis?
Will someone pls tell me how Hue improved us this year? Tom Cable achieved the same record with Al Davis effin him on his paycheck every week.
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Very dumb comment because Hue was the offense in 2010 also. 2010 had a healthy QB all year, a healthy Run DMC all year. 2011 had a qb transition, and Run DMC missing 9 games.
Don’t kid yourself, the penalties are one thing, but the offense taking the next step was all Hue once JaMarcus was gone and Campbell was brought in.
January 11th, 2012 at 7:40 pm
hue’s lack of defensive knowledge lost him his job. It’s painfully “obvious” that he had no clue on the other side of the ball. hue states more than once he met with Chucky B and approved defensive game plans. He’s just as much to blame for that crappy D as anyone.
Knowing half your job will get you fired every time.
January 11th, 2012 at 7:41 pm
In our case, we’re one game out of the playoffs with an OBVIOUS GLARING f’ing super-massive sized defensive problem to fix.
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Yeah, but we are in a division where the winner was 8-8. So, that isn’t much to brag about.
January 11th, 2012 at 7:42 pm
I’m done talking about that guy, AIG.
He’s no longer a Raider.
Now if you want to talk about the the new OC and what challenges he may face with our weapons, I’m all for it.
January 11th, 2012 at 7:43 pm
We don’t need some new coach in here to start his new agenda or way of running things. We need someone who can work with what we got, improve on the D, and move forward. Not rebuild, just reload.
January 11th, 2012 at 7:46 pm
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d825eac11/article/dolphins-interim-coach-bowles-will-interview-with-raiders
Who is McKenzies own guys?
January 11th, 2012 at 7:47 pm
Funny, Al Davis is still listed as the owner on the Raiders’ website.
January 11th, 2012 at 7:51 pm
This never would have happened if had kept Cable. We had a good thing goin and we bagged his ass. Hue would still be with the Raiders today had we kept Cable. And Marshall, WTF, we’d be in the playoffs for sure. Had a good thing goin with him.
Bring back Hue now. Stop the madness. Bring back Marshall.
January 11th, 2012 at 7:52 pm
RaiderYYZ Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 7:40 pm
Very dumb comment because Hue was the offense in 2010 also. 2010 had a healthy QB all year, a healthy Run DMC all year. 2011 had a qb transition, and Run DMC missing 9 games.
Don’t kid yourself, the penalties are one thing, but the offense taking the next step was all Hue once JaMarcus was gone and Campbell was brought in.
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Oh yeah? Let’s see if you can back up your claims above. First, DMAC has never had a full season healthy so you dont know WTH you’re talking about.
2010 DMAC played 13 games only and had 1157 yds.
2011 Bush started in 10 games and had 957 yds. Prior to that DMAC in 2011 was even better than 2010.
Verdict – No drop in rushing production.
2010 – We didnt start 1 healthy QB all year. We had the combo/controversies of Gradkowski and Jason.
2011 – We had the combo of Carson and Jason.
Verdict – Better QB combo in 2011 than 2010
So the facts do not back up your claims buddy. Try knowing your numbers before calling people dumb on here.
January 11th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
McKenzies “guys”?
-Todd Bowles
-Darren Perry
-Winston Moss
-Ray Rhodes
Does the Rooney Rule work both ways?
I’d like to see at least one Hispanic and one Jewish person at least interviewed.
NOT Polkadot though. I don’t trust those people.
January 11th, 2012 at 7:54 pm
J Hill Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 7:42 pm
I’m done talking about that guy, AIG.
He’s no longer a Raider.
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You’re right.
January 11th, 2012 at 7:54 pm
Bring back Hue now. Stop the madness. Bring back Marshall.
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Marshall was better than Chuck, no doubt. But, he wasn’t that great. Remember the all safety defense that probably cost us the playoffs last season?
January 11th, 2012 at 7:57 pm
Two thoughts. The head coach of the Green Bay packers is an offensive minded head coach. Which leads me to believe that might have some bearing on who we hire. Also, a huge part of the reason Green Bays defense is last in the league is because they are ahead of teams by ungodly numbers late in games and are more apt to play a prevent defense. To argue that the Packers don’t have play makers on defense and they arent a talented group is pretty ridiculous.
January 11th, 2012 at 7:57 pm
Steeler fan here. Always like the Raider/Steeler rivalries. Best in football. Cant believe we lost to the Broncos. Poor game plan from our dc. I can see them beating NE. Glad they are not im my division. Good luck with the new gm.
January 11th, 2012 at 7:59 pm
If Green Bay wins the SB, Reggies’ got to get a ring. Just wear the S&B ring you got, not the GB ring.
January 11th, 2012 at 7:59 pm
Steel City Fan, you can only post here if you admit that the Immaculate Reception was a bad call and an injustice.
January 11th, 2012 at 8:00 pm
Yo check out this dope rap I just flowed about Albert Puss and a lame Celtic goober
Yo yo, who’s a bigger nerd?
Albert Puss or Larry Bird?
Bird may be a long shooting sniper
But Albert Puss still wears Huggies diapers
PIZZLE
January 11th, 2012 at 8:00 pm
If Al Saunders sticks then MAYBE we’ll see some offensive continuity, but i’m not sold on him being the leader of the offense at this point of his career. His role with Hue was perfect it seemed.
January 11th, 2012 at 8:00 pm
Lettuce Head Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 7:59 pm
If Green Bay wins the SB, Reggies’ got to get a ring. Just wear the S&B ring you got, not the GB ring.
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Reggie doesn’t have a Raider ring.
January 11th, 2012 at 8:01 pm
Out here in Chicago the Bears are taking a beating for their endorsement of Lovie Smith.
They said at the presser firing their GM Jerry Angelo that whomever they brought in would have to get along and work well with Lovie.
More than a few folks were saying that if not for that, they could’ve snagged McKenzie from GB..the Bears chief rival of course.
January 11th, 2012 at 8:01 pm
Winston Moss might not be in the running by no fault of his own. Unless GB makes an early exit from the playoffs, I don’t think he gets a chance to interview. Didn’t seem like McKenzie wants to drag this out that long.
January 11th, 2012 at 8:01 pm
Beeecham, Larry Bird was the greatest non-Chicago Bull to ever play the game.
January 11th, 2012 at 8:02 pm
Magic and Koby had nothing on Larry Bird.
January 11th, 2012 at 8:03 pm
aig-raiders Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 7:52 pm
RaiderYYZ Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 7:40 pm
Very dumb comment because Hue was the offense in 2010 also. 2010 had a healthy QB all year, a healthy Run DMC all year. 2011 had a qb transition, and Run DMC missing 9 games.
Don’t kid yourself, the penalties are one thing, but the offense taking the next step was all Hue once JaMarcus was gone and Campbell was brought in.
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Oh yeah? Let’s see if you can back up your claims above. First, DMAC has never had a full season healthy so you dont know WTH you’re talking about.
2010 DMAC played 13 games only and had 1157 yds.
2011 Bush started in 10 games and had 957 yds. Prior to that DMAC in 2011 was even better than 2010.
Verdict – No drop in rushing production.
2010 – We didnt start 1 healthy QB all year. We had the combo/controversies of Gradkowski and Jason.
2011 – We had the combo of Carson and Jason.
Verdict – Better QB combo in 2011 than 2010
So the facts do not back up your claims buddy. Try knowing your numbers before calling people dumb on here.
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Do not mess with AIG and his numbers. Dude crunches numbers in his sleep for fun.
January 11th, 2012 at 8:04 pm
Goodnight everyone. Beeech, I’m still waiting on that party boat invite. I can’t wait to write about it on Yelp to go with all your horrible reviews.
January 11th, 2012 at 8:06 pm
217.Steel City Fan Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 7:57 pm
Steeler fan here. Always like the Raider/Steeler rivalries. Best in football. Cant believe we lost to the Broncos. Poor game plan from our dc. I can see them beating NE. Glad they are not im my division. Good luck with the new gm.
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Classy post.
You guys don’t really think Denver will be a threat in our division going forward with Tebow do u?
I think your guys losing to him was more of a fluke than anything.
January 11th, 2012 at 8:08 pm
114.RaiderYYZ Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 6:18 pm
RaiderYYZ Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 6:04 pm
I wouldn’t be surprised if they cut ties with Carson and go after Matt Flynn.
Carson only has $2.5 mill guaranteed on his 2012 contract (only $7.5mill of the rest of his renegotiated deal was guaranteed).
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My understanding has Palmer guaranteed 5 million this year.
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My mistake, it is $5 mill guaranteed for 2012. I think it’s still possible tho based on how Flynn’s contract is structured as if Carson is on the team for 2012, his salary is $12.5 mill. I think you can get Flynn at $7.5, and definitely less than $13 & $15 in 2013 & 2014.
Think about it
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In the voice of the great late Al Davis “Get the f’k out of here”
January 11th, 2012 at 8:08 pm
Puss, the ball is STILL in your court – I will consider allowing you on the Reggae Party Boat IF I get a signed consent form from your mother.
It’s required of all kids 18 and younger
So send that fax # and I’ll zip it over
January 11th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
Do not mess with AIG and his numbers. Dude crunches numbers in his sleep for fun.
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too funny…Nah that title belongs to JFB. I am 50% of his full potential.
apologies to RaiderYYZ for being too harsh in response. Enough of Hue Jack. Can’t wait for our next coach. Later boys.
January 11th, 2012 at 8:15 pm
Mike silver must go down and he must go down hard.
January 11th, 2012 at 8:16 pm
Aig…
Dumb was the wrong word, but.
McFadden avg in 2010 was 5.2/carry on 223 carries in 13 games. He played in 13 of the first 15 games and sat out a meaningless week 17 at that point. He was up to 5.4 in 2011. Bush was 4.1 last year and 3.8 this year.
If you don’t think there is a significant drop-off there on every level you are kidding yourself. I’m not saying Bush isn’t a very good player. Having both is great, but not having McFadden was a huge loss this season.
On the QB side I like Carson. BUT despite the yards and moving the offense we were worse in the red-one this year (see not having McFadden factor), and he threw a lot of INT’s. The first Chiefs game was lost due to Boller, and winning that game would have equaled play-offs.
Say what you want about his attitude, the penalty issue he didn’t fix, throwing players under the bus… Hue turned the Raider offense into one of the best in the NFL with Jason Campbell/Grads as a QB in 2010, and Carson Palmer coming off the couch without training camp in 2011.
January 11th, 2012 at 8:18 pm
Silver is a fkn yahoo
January 11th, 2012 at 8:18 pm
That broncos steelers game reminded me of the saints/seahawks game last year. Tom Brady will not keep tebow in the game. He will fire at will and keep on firing. The donks secondary is weak and ike taylor just plain sucked that game. The donks had a 20-6 lead and blew it ended up being 23-23. Since the brain dead center didnt want to hike the ball which caused a delay of game killed the steelers chances. I can see the donkeys giving them a fight but i dont see them walking away with the W
January 11th, 2012 at 8:20 pm
Especially not in new england
January 11th, 2012 at 8:20 pm
that being said I understand the firing, just hoping we don’t have to go through 3-5 years of a re-build in a division that is up for the taking!
January 11th, 2012 at 8:28 pm
Except for Palmer Al Davis signed off or picked the current Raider offensive play makers. Not Hue.
January 11th, 2012 at 8:29 pm
djohnnyg Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 8:06 pm
217.Steel City Fan Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 7:57 pm
Steeler fan here. Always like the Raider/Steeler rivalries. Best in football. Cant believe we lost to the Broncos. Poor game plan from our dc. I can see them beating NE. Glad they are not im my division. Good luck with the new gm.
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Classy post.
You guys don’t really think Denver will be a threat in our division going forward with Tebow do u?
I think your guys losing to him was more of a fluke than anything.
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I agree with DJG..Well and respectfully spoken by Steeler Fan. Although the Steelers are long time adversaries, I respect their org. and don’t despise them as I do the Donks and Cheatriots. Also. Steeler FAn.. check out the donks lineup on that 1st play in overtime… 6 men on the line of scrimmage.. illegal formation, uncalled….
January 11th, 2012 at 8:38 pm
Thanks guys. Would have rather we played in Oakland. Would have seemed more like the way it should be. Sucks losing. Our coaches never should have got to the OT. Bad game that day.
January 11th, 2012 at 8:42 pm
187. Jeezuz, now were the brake pad company Chris Farley (Mark Davis) saves?
Holy ****…
Ahem, thats what mass media choose to write about the most monumental day in Raiderland for 15 yrs.
Stunning.
Just stunning and really really disappointing.
January 11th, 2012 at 8:42 pm
Anyone got the feeling Steel City is gonna be right with us cheering the goddam Cheatriots this week? Just saying that makes me want to punch myself..
January 11th, 2012 at 8:54 pm
We need Denver to lose for no other reason than they’re in our conference. They need to experience the let down, not the confidence builder. They need the nasty taste of defeat.
January 11th, 2012 at 9:00 pm
Even more galling is to have to root the Cheats on the 10th anniversary of the Tuck Rule travesty.
January 11th, 2012 at 9:00 pm
That article is pure spin from Hue and his people. It’s pure B.S. Hue is in damage control mode right now. His reputation speaks for itself. Former co-workers and coaches have stated on the record how he was/is a back stabber and always looking to climb the ladder no matter what he does to ascend.
I heard today on the radio that the word out of Alameda was concerning Hue’s contract. After Al passed it was written in that he was given more power over the org and player personnel power. Well, then we hired a GM and that needed to change. Reggie met with Hue for hours and Hue did not like the thought of having his powers revoked. Hence Reggie said it’s time to move on.
When this first happened I felt bad for Hue, but the more I see and hear it’s starting to piss me off. We could see glimpses of the real Hue throughout the season. Cutting Hagan when he was a productive player and bringing in Housh. The complete abandonment of DHB for a couple of games when he was starting to come on. The meeting he had with the team telling them he would cut ANYONE and replace them with FA’s. The fake crying after the Houston win and pandering for the camera on one knee. His on camera persona was just slithery and contrived like the suits he dawned. There is something about him that just does not sit right with me.
I’ve been reading up on him for most of the day and am fine with bringing in Moss. Everything I have read has been a positive. A good character guy with strong convictions and that he is a no nonsense guy. And a guy you don’t cross. Bring in a bada$$ please. I’m down for Moss. Well, if that’s possible. Reggie looks like he’s in a rush.
January 11th, 2012 at 9:15 pm
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January 11th, 2012 at 9:25 pm
It’s a great night to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?!
Yes it is…even though we should be preparing for a Playoff game. This time next year, we will be.
Hue Jax an ego case? In it for himself more than for the team?? Say it ain’t so.
Remember a year and a half ago, when jason Campbell was benched? Remember how boldly he thrust his presence upon us…making sure we all knew he had a big part in the benching.
A bigger part, of course, after PUBLIC sentiment showed favor for the move, even if not by an overwhelming margin. Hue always has a pulse on the blogosphere, for better or worse.
If Hue coulda just stayed a HC, and not tried to be the end-all, be-all to the profession. As I said months ago…Hue could easily become a caricature as a head coach. He succeeded.
January 11th, 2012 at 9:26 pm
95.303Raider Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 6:02 pm
I think Gruden would want too much control, and that was wha got HueJax fired.
Reggie is going to hire “his guy”. He will be heavily criticized if “his guy” has a year that results in anything else but a division record, period!
I mean if we are going to copy any team right ow, I guess GB is the right one!
Only question I have is how did it work out when everyone wanted NEcoaches?
Man genius, Crennel, Pioli, McDeuchbag, and the fat OC from NE so far have all sucked!!!
Reggie, we got your back, but The Nation is NOT very patient right now!
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People need to realize that the Packers have a good way of “identifying” talent whether it be coaches or players. They identified Mike McCarthy and Tom Clements as bright young coaches. They were actually from the Saints staff working for Jim Haslett.
When McCarthy became HC at GB I said WTF? at the time because the Saints were just an average team. But I will give credit where it’s due and Mike McCarthy was the guy who found Aaron Brooks. During his year with the Packers in the late 90’s he convinced Holmgren to draft Brooks because he was athletic, smart, and can throw. When MM was hired as OC for Saints he had Haslett trade for Brooks. He had Brooks in the Pro Bowl. Nuff Said.
So I think McKenzie is identifying a gem just like MM was at the time.
January 11th, 2012 at 9:34 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 4:33 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
mark davis knows he isnt his father, no one is. he was smart to hand over the keys to guy that is a raider and will implement the best practices of davis /wolf, and ted thompson.
We do see some definite similarities to his father in the way he does business. Not afraid to pull the trigger, doesnt like a coach to fire coaches without his blessing. Will hire former raiders and first time hires, regardless of experience or media perception.
If hue jack got cuaght in the crossfire within the process of mark davis making his own mark its simply the nature of the business.
people have been screaming for a gm now we have one and people moan about the loss of hu jack, and say he didnt get “a fair shake”.
Did hue jack give jc or dhb a fair shake when he swept them out to bring in palmer and tj? NO, so I guess turnabout is fair play, and in the end it is poetic justice.
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excellent post. amen.
January 11th, 2012 at 9:36 pm
People need to realize that the Packers have a good way of “identifying” talent whether it be coaches or players. They identified Mike McCarthy and Tom Clements as bright young coaches. They were actually from the Saints staff working for Jim Haslett.
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And I think that trend is continuing. Todd Bowles is probably the single best candidate on the open market right now. Maurice Carthon is probably right behind him and has to be pissed he got passed over for Crennell. One of the best things McKenzie said yesterday is he wants guys that love the game. Peyton Manning loves the game of football. Aaron Rodgers loves the game of football. Ray Lewis loves the game. Clay Matthews loves the game. We get Jamarcus. And Rolando. And….
January 11th, 2012 at 9:50 pm
Ted Bowles is a favorite of Bill Parcells. Thats sounds like a nice place to start.
January 11th, 2012 at 9:51 pm
Mark Davis is suing Jim Carrey for his likeness in Dumb&Dumber (Lloyd Christmas)…then going after that silver hack from yahoo
January 11th, 2012 at 9:59 pm
Hue is GONE, get over it!
January 11th, 2012 at 10:01 pm
Reggie already rolling his sleeves up and getting to work.. Could this be one of the many hidden gems that McKenzie overturns?? Will be interesting to see McKenzie run the show come draft time this year( acquire any picks on draft day??) then work with the majority of picks in 2013. Will the personnel scouts target powerhouse colleges, mid-majors, or undrafted players.. The love for the game plays a big key in the evaluation process.. Lets get some Wild Boar Hunters in 2012!!
January 11th, 2012 at 10:02 pm
Hue who??
January 11th, 2012 at 10:03 pm
This is a new era in The RaiderNation
January 11th, 2012 at 10:06 pm
From Rotoworld…
Citing two league sources, the San Francisco Chronicle reports that Packers LBs coach Winston Moss is the “frontrunner” to replace Hue Jackson as the Raiders’ next head coach.
It’s pretty clear Jackson’s successor will be uprooted from the Packers, following new GM Reggie McKenzie. The Chronicle mentions Moss, safeties coach Darren Perry, offensive coordinator Joe Philbin, and QBs coach Tom Clements as interview candidates. Moss was on Al Davis’ radar for the past two offseasons, so the late Raiders owner would approve. A six-year Packers assistant, Moss earned the title of assistant head coach to Mike McCarthy in 2007.
January 11th, 2012 at 10:11 pm
wasbanned Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 10:06 pm
From Rotoworld…
Citing two league sources, the San Francisco Chronicle reports that Packers LBs coach Winston Moss is the “frontrunner” to replace Hue Jackson as the Raiders’ next head coach.
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The SF “Comical” also reported Jackson was staying about two days ago if I remember right.
January 11th, 2012 at 10:12 pm
If Winston Moss becomes are head coach and we, for some reason don’t make the play-offs, the Raider blogging experts will blame Al Davis…since W.M was on his radar. lol
January 11th, 2012 at 10:18 pm
Look for Reggie to bring in Todd Haley for an interview to satisfy the “Rooney Rule”.
January 11th, 2012 at 10:19 pm
Where is BHP?
I miss talking football at night with that Dude.
January 11th, 2012 at 10:23 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 10:11 pm
wasbanned Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 10:06 pm
From Rotoworld…
Citing two league sources, the San Francisco Chronicle reports that Packers LBs coach Winston Moss is the “frontrunner” to replace Hue Jackson as the Raiders’ next head coach.
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The SF “Comical” also reported Jackson was staying about two days ago if I remember right.
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Right… who knows. I sure don’t. Just posted something from the news for discussion.
January 11th, 2012 at 10:23 pm
From the Silver article–Silver:
“So, in my opinion, Davis did what many bosses do when they feel threatened by someone with a superior skill set and an aversion to brown-nosing: He kneecapped Jackson.”
Coming from a writer who refers to Hue Jackson as “someone with a superior skill set and an aversion to brown-nosing…” this psychoanalysis carries no weight with me.
Hue, a person with “an aversion to brown-nosing”?
Hue, the politician, the guy who couldn’t say “Coach” enough times.
If Al Davis had been able to stop on a dime, Hue would have been pickin’ sh-t out of his teeth for weeks, as the saying goes.
January 11th, 2012 at 10:23 pm
Why isn’t Miami considering “the hottest candidate out there” in Todd Bowles?
Jeff Fisher is way overhyped.
I know he “came within inches of a SB” blah, blah, blah, but in his 16 yrs. he won a grand total of 4 division titles and one conf. championship.
Whoopdee freaking doo.
January 11th, 2012 at 10:25 pm
I will agree with Silver on one thing: Hue has a talent for play-calling. I hope we continue to see things like fake punts and field goals and Shane throwing the ball…that stuff was fun, and it certainly uses all the talents of the players, something coaches should aspire to.
January 11th, 2012 at 10:26 pm
The Rooney rule only deals with minorities, AA gone amuck.
January 11th, 2012 at 10:29 pm
267,
Well, we will definitely satisfy that rule.
I don’t think they need that rule anymore.
Teams are looking beyond color nowadays.
BTW, are we the first to hire a black GM?
January 11th, 2012 at 10:33 pm
Hue Jackson will never be a head coach again.
January 11th, 2012 at 10:34 pm
[...] Jackson might have regrets for throwing everyone in the organization under the bus. But he is a grown man and he knows [...]
January 11th, 2012 at 10:35 pm
RaiderYYZ,
in response to post 234
What is our point here? Our point of debate is that Hue had more offensive weapons in 2011 and scored less than 2010. You think it was DMAC but I disagree.
1. There was NOT a significant drop off in rushing offense from 2010 to 2011. Sure Bush is no DMAC but we rushed for a total of 19 TDS in 2010 vs 16 in 2011. 2400 yds 2010 vs 2100 2011.
2. Our WR corp this year with injury is way better than the WR corp of 2010. DHB is 10x better this year than his first 2 yrs combined. We had 3900 yds receving vs 3100 yds 2010. Now that is almost 25%.
3. Our Oline is vastly better this year than it was the year before. 2010 44 sacks. 2011 25 sacks allowed.
So my main point is why are we only ranked 16th in scoring when we improved talent in 2011 vs 2010? Hue got pass happy IMHO. Bottom line is Hue didnt get it done. Plain and simple.
January 11th, 2012 at 10:35 pm
I’m surprised there aren’t more posts in here about Raiders moving to LA.
When that subject has been brought up here in the past, it’s garnered a lot of passion. Almost 95% hating the idea and blasting anyone that suggested it.
Now, we see Cork saying he thinks there’s an 80% chance of it happening and very little reaction/discussion on it.
January 11th, 2012 at 10:36 pm
“BTW, are we the first to hire a black GM?”
No, I don’t know if he was the first, but Ozzie Newsome is GM of the Ravens.
January 11th, 2012 at 10:41 pm
Morilla,
this is for you…..you were dead on about your suspicion on Hue. I never believed that Coach Davis crap from day 1.
Vittorio Tafur @VittorioTafur 2h
Will say this … Anyone else notice on TV interview & Yahoo interview, HueJax’s been calling his late boss Al Davis instead of Coach Davis
January 11th, 2012 at 10:42 pm
Mark Davis and Reggie McKenzie should do all they can to bring Jon Gruden back home to be head coach again.
He should have never been traded away in the first place.
Bringing back Jon Gruden would bring back big time buzz to Raiders organization and can you imagine how many season tickets would be sold??
The phones would be ringing off the hook at Alameda Raider Headquarters!
Bring back Chucky Gruden if it can be done!!
Then hire Trgovac or Moss as the DC’s.
January 11th, 2012 at 10:42 pm
“When that subject has been brought up here in the past, it’s garnered a lot of passion. Almost 95% hating the idea and blasting anyone that suggested it.
Now, we see Cork saying he thinks there’s an 80% chance of it happening and very little reaction/discussion on it.”
Things are so unsettled in this area, I figure I won’t get upset until it happens, and then the same thing will happen: I’ll feel betrayed, not make any special effort to watch the Raiders although I will deep-down root for them, but I will never really be devoted again.
The LA Raiders were not mine. I feel an attachment to some of the players from their hey-day there, but it’s a “like” and not a “love.” Certainly, they were not my passion.
I’d like Mark to view his legacy as keeping the Raiders in Northern CA, preferably Oakland. Moving them out is like moving the Yankees from the Bronx to New Rochelle, or worse yet, Manhattan.
January 11th, 2012 at 10:44 pm
# djohnnyg Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 10:35 pm
I’m surprised there aren’t more posts in here about Raiders moving to LA.
When that subject has been brought up here in the past, it’s garnered a lot of passion. Almost 95% hating the idea and blasting anyone that suggested it.
Now, we see Cork saying he thinks there’s an 80% chance of it happening and very little reaction/discussion on it.
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Fans are more concerned with who is going to be the next head coach and if they are going to be any good and if this team is going to take a step back….again. Ugh
Who cares about stadium issues right now. That will get settled in due time.
This team needs stability and needs to get back to winning football games and winning thee AFC West.
January 11th, 2012 at 10:45 pm
Mark Davis and Reggie McKenzie should do all they can to bring Jon Gruden back home to be head coach again.
He should have never been traded away in the first place.
Bringing back Jon Gruden would bring back big time buzz to Raiders organization and can you imagine how many season tickets would be sold??
The phones would be ringing off the hook at Alameda Raider Headquarters!
Bring back Chucky Gruden if it can be done!!
Then hire Trgovac or Moss as the DC’s!
January 11th, 2012 at 10:46 pm
So i see Dorothy Hamill and Mongo havent hired a coach yet.
January 11th, 2012 at 10:46 pm
Hue Jackson should be the head coach at Cal.
Tedford needs to go!!
January 11th, 2012 at 10:49 pm
277. Nobody cares what cork says. He hates the raiders.
January 11th, 2012 at 10:51 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 4:33 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
mark davis knows he isnt his father, no one is. he was smart to hand over the keys to guy that is a raider and will implement the best practices of davis /wolf, and ted thompson.
We do see some definite similarities to his father in the way he does business. Not afraid to pull the trigger, doesnt like a coach to fire coaches without his blessing. Will hire former raiders and first time hires, regardless of experience or media perception.
If hue jack got cuaght in the crossfire within the process of mark davis making his own mark its simply the nature of the business.
people have been screaming for a gm now we have one and people moan about the loss of hu jack, and say he didnt get “a fair shake”.
Did hue jack give jc or dhb a fair shake when he swept them out to bring in palmer and tj? NO, so I guess turnabout is fair play, and in the end it is poetic justice.
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excellent post. amen.
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Nobody is moaning about anything. Hue didn’t get a fair shake here and that is a fact.
Sorry that JC got hurt and all, but Hue wanted to win the division this year and he wasn’t going to do it with Boller playing QB.
I would rather have had a fighting chance at winning the division than losing the rest of their games and getting a top 12 pick.
At least Hue wanted to win. It isn’t Hues fault the DEFENSE was one of the worst in the league and Hue didn’t hire Chuck B as DC either.
January 11th, 2012 at 10:52 pm
If the Raiders really want to turn things around….AND sell season tickts at the same time….than…
BRING BACK JON GRUDEN AS HEAD COACH!!
January 11th, 2012 at 10:52 pm
Small sample size from an ongoing poll in the LA Times (online).
Would you like to see the Raiders move back to LA?
Yes 51.32% (2,081 votes)
No 48.68% (1,974 votes)
Total Votes: 4,055
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Sounds as if it could be a natural fit, an observation that is not lost on Davis. The Times’ Sam Farmer reported Tuesday the Raiders organization has had conversations with L.A. stadium groups about a possible relocation back to the city the team called home from 1982-94.
The Raiders are already in a state of transition with a new owner (Davis took over after the death of his father, Al Davis, back in October), a new general manager (former Green Bay Packers front office man Reggie McKenzie was hired this week) and soon a new coach (Hue Jackson was fired Tuesday after one season).
January 11th, 2012 at 10:54 pm
djohnnyg Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 10:35 pm
I’m surprised there aren’t more posts in here about Raiders moving to LA.
When that subject has been brought up here in the past, it’s garnered a lot of passion. Almost 95% hating the idea and blasting anyone that suggested it.
Now, we see Cork saying he thinks there’s an 80% chance of it happening and very little reaction/discussion on it.
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January 11th, 2012 at 10:58 pm
Did Mark seem unaffected by his fathers death to anyone else? He mentioned how hard it was on everyone but him and his family. Not to mention he had to be called and told. You would think he would have been there.
January 11th, 2012 at 11:00 pm
DKnight007 Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 10:52 pm
If the Raiders really want to turn things around….AND sell season tickts at the same time….than…
BRING BACK JON GRUDEN AS HEAD COACH!!
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Yo Yo I been preaching this gospel since Hue got canned
If Gruden comes back I’ve already committed to bestowing a lifetime VIP pass to McKenzie for access to the Reggae Party Boat.
Pole dances and water wings will be extra
Gotta find a new shrimp hookup, ’cause big dawg looks like he can put down them tails
January 11th, 2012 at 11:01 pm
Djohnny, when did Cork make the 80% comment? Amy Trask seems to be trying to make going to Raider games more of a family friendly atmosphere. Why would Mark Davis want to go back to south central LA and make the Raiders a ghetto team again?
January 11th, 2012 at 11:04 pm
I’m giving Mark Davis until August to make a stadium decision. If he does not commit to Santa Clara, no season tickets for me. Nobody should buy season tickets until the Raiders commit to where they want to play football for the next 30 years!
January 11th, 2012 at 11:04 pm
I think it was on todays chat.
January 11th, 2012 at 11:06 pm
I would be down with Gruden coming back.
January 11th, 2012 at 11:06 pm
djohnnyg Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 10:35 pm
I’m surprised there aren’t more posts in here about Raiders moving to LA.
When that subject has been brought up here in the past, it’s garnered a lot of passion. Almost 95% hating the idea and blasting anyone that suggested it.
Now, we see Cork saying he thinks there’s an 80% chance of it happening and very little reaction/discussion on it.
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Let me comment. The Raiders belong in Oakland, PERIOD as priest would say. I was a season ticket holder when they left for LA the 1st time. I took me until this last year to get over being pizzed off and buying season tickets once again. I’ve already renewed for next year and look forward to many more years in Oakland. Should the winds of change fall upon us and they leave once again, I wil choose to look at it a little differently – more from a financial standpoint. My current season tickets run $3,020 year. Parking = $350/year prepaid. Refreshments run and easy $50/game ($500/year). Bottom line is that if they leave I will have $3,870. minimum of expendable cash to do something with. First, I’ll sign up for the NFL ticket & get to watch all the games on a 56″ HDTV from the comfort of my home. Next, Maybe I’ll buy a BIGGER HDTV with what’s left over. I no longer worry about things that I have no control over. I’ve found that’s a good rule to follow. I don’t want them to leave – even to Santa Clara on a share stadium arrangement. The Raiders is and has always been a blue collar type team. That’s their roots and that’s what they should stick with. Oakland is where they belong even if it is in the O.co Coliseum. That’s where their greatness was established and that is where it will return. The only real major improvement they really need is super big jumbotrons for the replays. Other than that, the O.co Coliseum is fine with me.
January 11th, 2012 at 11:07 pm
Cork is also the idiot who thought the Chargers would lay down on January 1. What the heck does he know about Mark Davis?
January 11th, 2012 at 11:08 pm
DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 10:58 pm
Did Mark seem unaffected by his fathers death to anyone else? He mentioned how hard it was on everyone but him and his family. Not to mention he had to be called and told. You would think he would have been there.
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Hey neighbor,
Mark Davis was in Texas with the Raider team when he was called that early morning.
January 11th, 2012 at 11:09 pm
288.beach Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 11:01 pm
Djohnny, when did Cork make the 80% comment? Amy Trask seems to be trying to make going to Raider games more of a family friendly atmosphere. Why would Mark Davis want to go back to south central LA and make the Raiders a ghetto team again?
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-Cork’s “80% comment” is in the replay (lengthy) of Wednesdays live chat.
-The idea is Raiders moving to NEW stadium near Staples Center from what I understand. As much as Amy wants “fan friendly” Mark wants $ and there’s more $ in a new stadium wherever that may be.
He may just be trying to force Oakland to build a new stadium “Or Else”.
January 11th, 2012 at 11:10 pm
294. Explains that.
January 11th, 2012 at 11:10 pm
Reggie McKenzie sounds blue collar to me. JB, you are opposed to Santa Clara? If it was Santa Clara or LA, which do you prefer? I bought season tickets in 1980 and 1981, then again from 1995-present. Santa Clara is the only option for the Raiders currently on the table.
January 11th, 2012 at 11:11 pm
286.DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 10:58 pm
Did Mark seem unaffected by his fathers death to anyone else? He mentioned how hard it was on everyone but him and his family. Not to mention he had to be called and told. You would think he would have been there.
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I noticed that too, but remember he was in the press box crying after the Raiders “honored” his father by beating Houston.
January 11th, 2012 at 11:14 pm
DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 11:10 pm
294. Explains that.
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I was in Texas, decided to make a road trip, got called around 8:30 informing me from a friend Al Davis died. Everybody in the Hotel we stayed at was in total shock. Mark was having drinks friday, with some Raider boosters and hours later he was called his dad had passed.
January 11th, 2012 at 11:14 pm
Cork also “predicted” it will be 2-3 yrs. before Raiders get into playoffs.
I don’t wanna hear that noise.
January 11th, 2012 at 11:15 pm
I’ve read articles. The 2 businessmen that want a team in LA can’t even get their project off the ground. Mark is going to play hard ball with Oakland, and then his next option is Santa Clara. The NFL wants the 2 teams to share a stadium. What can possibly hold Mark back?
January 11th, 2012 at 11:16 pm
Yeah. I was on here teary eye with all you knuckleheads.
January 11th, 2012 at 11:17 pm
Cork should get lost. The guy knows absolutely nothing about the NFL. He and Mike Silver need to get a real job, and stop being so critical of the Raiders. Mark Davis hires a GM, and these bozos think that Reggie wants to set the team backward.
January 11th, 2012 at 11:19 pm
Hue is a salesman gone wrong. There was no improvement on defense all season long. The 2nd half playcalling every week was predictable. He lied to us for weeks about McFadden’s injury. I’m glad he is gone, especially since he is from LA.
January 11th, 2012 at 11:21 pm
A team that can’t get its home games televised because it can’t sell out a big stadium can’t grow its fan base.
As I pointed out before, a Raider team in LA will be filled with gang-bangers or guys that want to appear as gang-bangers.
Ethic rivalries will find themselves playing out in the parking lot and in the stadium.
The NFL will regret it and so will the Raiders.
You can’t NOT sell tickets to people who have the money.
It would be a huge gamble and a winning team will not innoculate the Raiders from the problems. In fact, a winning team will exacerbate the problem, drawing in more of such people with the middle class staying away.
Recall they couldn’t sell out the LA Coliseum even when they were winning.
I repeat: the larger LA metro area is a college football city, USC, UCLA. Pro football draw the wrong crowd.
LA is a mess anyway. Been there lately? It’s Mexico North–only there are more gangs in LA than in Mexico.
South Central is still the everlasting hell hole it has always been.
Filling the basketball Staples Center is not the same as filling a modern football facility every other Sunday with behaving fans.
January 11th, 2012 at 11:23 pm
I liked Hue. But if Mongo and Dorothy Hamill can give us a coach who can get this thing going next year i will be ok with him to. I just dont want to wait five years to rebuild.
January 11th, 2012 at 11:26 pm
305. I’m with you and hopefully, Mark Davis is smarter than his father and won’t make the same error in judgment. I just think economically, the best bang for the buck is the Santa Clara stadium. Who will pay for a new stadium in Oakland? I would, but I can’t afford it.
January 11th, 2012 at 11:32 pm
My assessment of Reggie is that while he wants his guys involved, he also expects them to be a winner now going forward. There’s no reason we can’t be in the playoffs next year, possibly even further. Just get players healed up, fix the D, i[grade both lines and some other key players and viola, we’re there. If we can get all our offensive starters on the field at one time, we are a scary offense. A new DC, a 3-4 approach, a couple of new players and we should be good to go. Al Saunders is more than capable to run the offense as well as and perhaps better than Hue did. Reggie can easily accomplish this for next year if he chooses to do so.
January 11th, 2012 at 11:33 pm
Al Davis left the team in shambles, with no future stadium in mind. I wonder what John Madden will suggest to Mark Davis? I would have to believe Madden will advise to keep the team in the Bay Area, as well as 90% of the former players that Mark keeps in touch with.
January 11th, 2012 at 11:35 pm
AL Davis, since 1983, has been a worthless piece of crap – 1983 being the last year Raiders won the Superbowl. Most people only go back to the Gruden anomaly in 2002, but it goes back further to 1983 when AL realized he could make more money winning lawsuits against the NFL and city of Oakland than winning football games.
With AL’s shenanigans, the Raiders have been in the league cellar for 29 years. This is a great drama of the rise and fall of a great genius – a genius who couldn’t resurrect himself or his team after the initial fall.
Now all you fools think you know the Raiders and Davis from the old days, but you are all a bunch of 3-hair young little bastards, who, if you are under the age of 50, know nothing about the greatness of the Raiders at all.
My advice to you is shut up and learn.
AL was crap for 29 yrs and deserved to be turned out to the curb. He should have been run out of the league and his minority partners should have expelled him from the partnership in which he held a 60% ownership interest. No boys and girls, AL didn’t, nor his family now, don’t exclusively own the Raiders, even though you dumb asses thought so.
So now while God gave us a miracle and took AL back to football Heaven, or wherever the hell he ended up, we can rejoice that his stink and taint is now abating.
Hue was loud mouthed, pimped out BS’er – a bully who couldn’t keep a single promise or remedy problems he himself created. He not only deserved to be fired, but on the way out the door, slapped across the face with an ax handle, appropriate to all con artists of his ilk. Hue bragged about the CP being the greatest trade in sports: CP being a washed up, aged QB who quit on the Bengals after making $125M in 8 yrs. It was a great trade alright, but only for Cincy.
Now all you haters and pretenders – adolescent whores preening in front of a mirror – know the real story; just shut the F up and watch the team eliminate AL’s taint and stink and all that the taint and stink touched.
The Raiders will soon return to greatness.
January 11th, 2012 at 11:36 pm
I should get some sleep. The unending drama of the Oakland Raiders is painful to witness. I showed up at all 8 regular season games this season. I’m hoping Mark Davis and Amy Trask will give me a reason to continue doing so. I am confident, but have doubt about where they want the team to play, and that’s not a good thing.
January 11th, 2012 at 11:37 pm
luvmarvhub 305:
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January 11th, 2012 at 11:39 pm
We’re finally getting the best available exec, best coach available, who hires best asst. coaches available,…..
Isnt this what we want?
January 11th, 2012 at 11:40 pm
RaiderReign:
yes
January 12th, 2012 at 12:26 am
@305
Have you not read about the shootings and stabbings this year in SF and SD? And, when Raiders first moved back to Oakland, I remember there were fights going on throughout the stadium. By the end of the game, there were pockets of missing people because of people getting kicked out. It was actually pretty entertaining.
From somebody who ‘appears as a gang-banger.’
Oh, I’ve thrown this link around recently, but it’s hilarious! Pure Classic Raider Nation!:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbU8pCgfZzs
January 12th, 2012 at 12:34 am
@305
Are you a Birther?
January 12th, 2012 at 12:40 am
yes
January 12th, 2012 at 12:41 am
yes to 313
January 12th, 2012 at 12:41 am
no not a birther
January 12th, 2012 at 12:43 am
@310 Al D Davis
Tell us how you really feel about ‘Coach!’ lol
Yesterday I was upset, irrational, just like Hue! Today, I am okay and understand the move and am okay with it. Like everyone else, I just want this thing fixed. But, I am also worried about the direction the Raiders are truly moving towards and how that affects our fan base-’gang-bangers’ and all. But, like you said, we’ve been in a drought for 30 years. Al’s approach hasn’t worked. There’s a different culture of players now, and we need to select players that fit into McKenzie’s vision of what truly defines teamwork. And Hue isn’t that type of coach. He doesn’t have that type of personality that’s rational. So…as always, I’ma stick it through and savior the day when “We are the Champions!”
January 12th, 2012 at 2:26 am
Birther!!
You monkeys should not have kids.
January 12th, 2012 at 2:31 am
We should test your IQ before:
1- you are allowed to have kids
2- allowed to vote
3- allowed to drive and own guns
4- allowed to post on this blog.
Damn you monkeys!!!
January 12th, 2012 at 2:36 am
We should send all you monkeys to Europe for cheap labor.
January 12th, 2012 at 2:37 am
Europe or Canada.
January 12th, 2012 at 3:27 am
rom average to now below average once again. This was not the best season with key players fallen by the way side. Now “Spuds” wants to start fresh again. How long must we as fans of the raiders go the process of losing seasons. Mark brings in Spuds to clean house. Why did Hue have to leave? Fire some players who can’t control themselves on or off the field! Fire coaches whom cannot get thru the players for their actions. Dig up Grandpa Al and some sense to this organization that the Raiders are headed for losing seasons in the future with Spuds Mckenzie!
Enduring another loser in town, Todd Bowles for the fins a HC here! Great for the fins but not for the Raiders. Get rid of Palmer, DHB, Seymour, and others disrupting the team! Cut down the penalties and play team ball. When one messes up all mess up! ok, spuds!
If the team go less than 8-8 fire the Spuds, like he did Hue! Not another losing season!
January 12th, 2012 at 3:41 am
Raiders Team Report
USA Today
Reggie McKenzie arrived as the Raiders general manager preaching stability, and his first official act was to dismiss the head coach — meaning the most unstable of franchises will have its sixth head coach since 2003.
Hue Jackson is out, and McKenzie said the search for a successor will begin immediately.
Owner Mark Davis hired McKenzie to run the football operation, giving him full authority to hire and fire the head coach.
“The decision centered on me wanting my own guy,” McKenzie said. “If Hue would have finished 7-0 down the stretch, and they made the playoffs, that would have played a role. But you look into every dynamic. I want to bring my own guy in, and Mark was OK with that. Period. That’s what we want.”
McKenzie will attempt to bring structure to an organization that needs it.
On more than one occasion, Al Davis said he didn’t feel the need for a chain of command. All decisions were made by him and information was funneled to him from the head coach and people in the personnel department. He sought opinions, then made choices based on the information he had.
Davis had final approval on all assistant coaches, hiring some himself, and rejecting others wanted by the head coach.
In terms of defensive football, Davis dictated the scheme, insisted on playing predominantly man-to-man defense and coordinators were expected to play within a framework.
In the McKenzie regime, there will be a clear division of responsibilities and a chain of command.
McKenzie will handle all talent evaluation and acquisition, from the draft to free agency. He will take input from the head coach, but all the talent coming through the doors at the facility will be at his discretion.
The head coach will be responsible for installing systems of football and hiring his staff. He will run practices his way, coach the team his way, without interference from the front office.
“I’m not going to have any say-so,” McKenzie said. “What I’m going to do is empower the head coach to hire his staff, the best possible staff he can hire. We’re not going to tie the guy’s hands and tell him to hire this guy or that guy. It wouldn’t be fair to the head coach. The head coach will have the right to hire any coach that he wants.”
A member of the Green Bay Packers organization since 1994, McKenzie will import much of what he learned under executives such as Ron Wolf and Ted Thompson.
He will aim to have the same relationship with his new coach as Wolf had with Mike Holmgren and Thompson has with Mike McCarthy, he said.
“I’ve seen how that works. I think when you have a great relationship from the top, it filters down,” McKenzie said. “The Packer organization is done right, and that’s why I’m going to make sure our chain of command is done that way.”
Davis doesn’t plan on attempting to run the team as his father did, saying, “I know what I don’t know.
“I would say I’m an observer,” Davis said. “I like to observe how things are going and then actually act on those things I see. I’ve got patience.”
Not long after being fired, Jackson said he believed his exit was of Davis’ doing, claiming the new owner “wanted to put his stamp on things.”
Davis, however, said the call belonged to McKenzie.
“(Hue) did some things great, but we ended up 8-8, didn’t make the playoffs,” Davis said. “Injuries were a key part of that. I have a lot of respect for Hue Jackson. Reggie said it is time to move forward. That’s what we’re going to do.”
NOTES, QUOTES
—Mark Davis, in his first public speaking appearance since the death of his father on Oct. 8, said he has no intention of selling the franchise.
“There is no intention to sell the team,” Davis said. “This is my life. I’ve been with the Raiders 48 years. And my whole thing is to continue the legacy that my father built here. I’ve got one of the largest extended families in the world — all the former players and everybody that’s been in the organization.”
Davis, however, couldn’t say for certain the team would remain in Oakland.
He called Santa Clara and a shared stadium with the 49ers a possibility, but said there had been no discussions with the 49ers toward that end. Basically, Davis said, anything is on the table.
“The time table is yesterday,” Davis said. “We’ve got to get a new stadium. We’ve got to get that done. It’s such a competitive business. We can’t compete for a lot of the players other teams can, at times.”
—DT Richard Seymour was surprised coach Hue Jackson was let go but was philosophical about the decision.
“We all had his back and he had our back,” Seymour said. “Obviously, it came down to the new general manager wanted his own guy in there. As a player, you have to trust that the new leadership will guide is in the right direction. That’s just the nature of the beast.”
—Mark Davis said if he had to do the Carson Palmer deal over again, he probably would, considering the circumstances.
New GM Reggie McKenzie, who said all positions would be up for competition and called Palmer “a good quarterback,” said he could see why the deal was made.
Oakland dealt its first-round draft pick in 2012 and a conditional second-round pick in 2013 (it could be another first-round pick if Oakland makes it to the AFC championship game next season) to the Cincinnati Bengals, for Palmer after Jason Campbell was lost with a broken right clavicle.
“As a personnel guy, I love my picks,” McKenzie said. “I also love good players. Bringing in Carson at the time the Raiders brought him in, as a player, that’s a good move. You have to get players that can help you win games.
“Did the position present itself favorably for Cincinnati? Absolutely. But you do what you have to do. That’s just the way it is, the cost of doing business.”
QUOTE TO NOTE: “My approach is old school. I’m a roll-up-the-sleeves type of guy, just wake up early like iron workers and come prepared to get the job done,” Raiders general manager Reggie McKenzie.
STRATEGY AND PERSONNEL
The Raiders find themselves for the first time since Al Davis arrived as being a blank slate.
GM Reggie McKenzie will hire a coaching staff that will implement its own system and anything is on the table. With Carson Palmer at quarterback, chances are it will include more of a downfield passing attack than the West Coast system favored at Green Bay.
Defensively, the Packers preferred a 3-4 defensive alignment and coach Hue Jackson had hinted before his firing the Raiders could be headed that way.
However, McKenzie said he isn’t wed to a particular offensive or defensive scheme. The new coach will sell him on that and he’ll work to provide the best players to execute the plan.
UNIT-BY-UNIT ANALYSIS
QUARTERBACK: Starter — Carson Palmer. Backups — Kyle Boller, Terrelle Pryor, Jason Campbell.
Speculation that Palmer had slipped in terms of arm strength proved unfounded. The team will be built around him and he’ll get an entire training camp this time. Boller, an unrestricted free agent, is a No. 3 and, at best, a backup. The hope is Pryor shows enough to be a backup after getting in a full camp. Campbell is expected to go somewhere in free agency where he could conceivably start.
RUNNING BACKS: RB Darren McFadden, FB Marcel Reece. Backups — RB Michael Bush, RB Rock Cartwright, RB Taiwan Jones, FB Manase Tonga.
McFadden is one of the NFL’s best and most versatile backs but through four years cannot be counted upon for an entire season. Reece is unlike any other fullback in the league in that he can play in the slot and be a downfield receiver. Bush gained 977 yards as a “backup” as McFadden missed nine games. Remains to be seen whether the Raiders will shell out the money to keep him either as a franchise free agent or with a long-term deal. Cartwright is a special teams captain and team leader. Jones is one of the fastest backs in the NFL but was slowed by a hamstring pull, playing in 10 games. Tonga was useful in power blocking formations.
TIGHT ENDS: Starter — Kevin Boss. Backups — Brandon Myers, Richard Gordon, David Ausberry.
Boss missed the first two games with a strained knee and was an effective but under-utilized target (28 receptions, 368 yards, 3 TDs) who will benefit with a training camp with Palmer. Myers is a solid receiver/blocker as a backup and a very good special teams player. Gordon is an effective enough blocker to play fullback on occasion. Ausberry’s blocking is a work in progress but he is an athletic and potentially explosive wide receiver.
WIDE RECEIVERS: Starters — Darrius Heyward-Bey, Denarius Moore. Backups — Jacoby Ford, Chaz Schilens, Louis Murphy, T.J. Houshmandzadeh, Derrick Jones.
Heyward-Bey shed the bust label in his third year with a team-leading 64 receptions for 975 yards and four touchdowns. Primarily a physical, catch-and-run receiver, he caught a couple of long passes near season’s end. Moore made an impact from his first day at training camp and finished with 33 receptions for 618 yards and five touchdowns. Ford’s second season didn’t match his first because of hamstring and foot injuries that limited him to eight games. Schilens had his moments as a tall, possession receiver and stayed healthy for the first time, but needs to take the next step. Murphy had sports hernia surgery in training camp and his production was down as a third-year player. Houshmandzadeh was brought in by former coach Hue Jackson mostly for leadership purposes, but is near the end of the line.
OFFENSIVE LINEMEN: Starters — LT Jared Veldheer, LG Stefen Wisniewski, C Samson Satele, RG Cooper Carlisle, RT Khalif Barnes. Backups — T/G Joe Barksdale, T Stephon Heyer, T/G Bruce Campbell.
Veldheer is emerging as a top-flight left tackle, as evidenced by strong games against the likes of Jared Allen and Tamba Hali. Wisniewski played like a five-year veteran, particularly early in the season when he was at his best. Satele is a tough, smart veteran but could eventually be moved aside for Wisniewski. Carlsile rebounded with a solid season after decreasing effectiveness in the two previous years. Barnes had his moments but was prone to penalties (10) on the right side. Barksdale, an extra lineman, could challenge at right tackle with a full training camp. Heyer proved capable as a reserve and filled in admirably when injuries required him to do so. Campbell was inactive late in the season even though he was healthy and players at other positions were too hurt to play. He may not make the roster this season.
DEFENSIVE LINEMEN: DLE Lamarr Houston, DLT Richard Seymour, NT Tommy Kelly, DRE Desmond Bryant. Backups — DE Matt Shaughnessy, DT John Henderson, DE Jarvis Moss, DE Trevor Scott, DE Mason Brodine.
Houston is an active, aggressive defender who eventually should be best suited inside as a three-technique. Seymour fought through injuries and earned a Pro Bowl berth mostly on reputation. Kelly’s 7.5 sacks led the Raiders, but he, too, would be suited to a three-technique. Bryant can play outside or inside and may be the Raiders’ strongest lineman. Shaughnessy looked like a coming star during training camp but spent most of the season on injured reserve after shoulder surgery. Henderson is having trouble staying healthy but can still push the middle of the line. Moss was not as effective as in 2010 and has difficulty holding the edge. Scott’s first year back from ACL surgery netted no sacks. Brodine was a Week 16 call-up from the practice squad.
LINEBACKERS: Starters — SLB Kamerion Wimbley, MLB Rolando McClain, WLB Aaron Curry. Backups — WLB Quentin Groves, OLB/MLB Travis Goethel, MLB Darryl Blackstock.
Wimbley’s huge contract netted seven sacks as a nickel pass rusher as well as being among the league leaders in quarterback hits and pressures. He tends to play in spurts, however, and vanish for periods of time. McClain has been slow to react and is too often out of his gap — hence Oakland’s problems against the run. Curry is an aggressive sideline-to-sideline player and a big-hitter who tends to be overaggressive and prone to penalties. Groves, a free agent, was relegated to special teams after Curry’s acquisition. Goethel missed the entire season after a training camp knee injury but the Raiders like his willingness to take on blockers. Blackstock was a special teams player and backup middle linebacker who may not return.
DEFENSIVE BACKS: Starters — LCB Stanford Routt, FS Michael Huff, SS Tyvon Branch, RCB Lito Sheppard. Backups — CB Chris Johnson, CB Chimdi Chekwa, CB DeMarcus Van Dyke, DB Bryan McCann, SS Mike Mitchell, S Jerome Boyd, FS Matt Giordano.
Routt committed a league-high 17 penalties to go along with four interceptions and struggled in the last five games of the season. Huff missed four games due to a concussion and a hamstring injury and there was talk at the end of the season in moving him to cornerback considering he did some good work as slot corner in the nickel defense. Branch, the Raiders’ leading tackler, is a willing hitter and was much improved against the pass. Sheppard was signed during the season, ended up starting, and struggled badly against larger receivers in the last three games of the season.
Johnson was placed on the non-football illness list to end the season after a family tragedy. Chekwa’s rookie season was derailed by shoulder and hamstring woes. It wasn’t a good sign for Van Dyke that he got healthy but couldn’t get on the field in front of Sheppard. McCann is primarily a kickoff and punt return specialist. Mitchell is a willing hitter but has periodic issues with his health and can’t seem to grain traction beyond occasional work in nickel and dime defenses. Boyd’s troubles defending the pass were conspicuous particularly on long throws, where he had trouble adjusting to balls in flight. Girodano had a team-high five interceptions and made a role for himself as Huff struggled with injuries.
SPECIALISTS: PK Sebastian Janikowski, P Shane Lechler, KOR Jacoby Ford, PR Denarius Moore, LOS Jon Condo.
Janikowski was 31-for-35 on field goal attempts, didn’t miss a kick inside the 50-yard line that wasn’t blocked and deservingly made his first Pro Bowl. Lechler remains the AFC’s premiere punter. Ford had a touchdown return but was hurt much of the year. Moore showed promise on punts but the Raiders would probably like to find someone to take over and let him concentrate on being a game-breaking receiver. Condo has gotten top-dollar as a long snapper and deserved it. He’s been nearly perfect for four years.
January 12th, 2012 at 3:55 am
This is the Internet, so everyone is entitled to their opinion, obviously.
Me, I trust what John Madden, Ron Wolf and Reggie McKenzie think over what anybody here, or anywhere else, thinks.
I hear some people here say, “If this and if that, I’m out.” What a friggin joke. If that’s what it takes for you to be “out”, than see you later, you were never a true Raider fan to begin with.
I’m “out.”
January 12th, 2012 at 4:57 am
We’ll see what we get with McKenzie taking over ..we should be able to compete in our division at the least as weak as it is and hopefully the rest of the NFL ….I’m on the optimistic side of thinking ….even when it come to where the Raiders play…I belive it would be a huge mistake( again ) to move the club outta the Bayarea .. Southern California is a tough place for football and theirs a good reason the Nfl left there in the first place …I still believe a deal will be workedout up here …. And if not then I have to travel to games..then so be it….
I’m reading these post from last night… Where did all these rightwing racist come from…?..
Your not welcome in the Raider nation… Take your Fk’n hate somewhere else….I don’t wanna read it…. This is a Raider site …
January 12th, 2012 at 5:06 am
Hey Fingers, did you hear howard Sterns bit on the tebow post game presser? I just caught the replay this morning, short but pretty funny! I gotta go google his girlfriend now…
January 12th, 2012 at 5:07 am
As far as this moving back to LA thing… Remember , their are other teams that could just as well end up there…..it’s not like it’s up to the Raiders if they want to move ..they have to be wanted first off …didn’t work last time… Why is now diffrent ….. I’d hate to see the Oakland Raiders in LA…and I still don’t believe we will
January 12th, 2012 at 5:08 am
Carl…no didn’t see it… Was it funny?..I’ll try and find the link ..
January 12th, 2012 at 5:21 am
I know you have sirius that’s why I ask.
Regarding a stadium, If the Jets & Giants can share a stadium in one of the largest cities in the world, why not the Raiders & 9ers?
January 12th, 2012 at 5:32 am
Yep… I love my Sirius radio… Drives my girlfriend nuts cause I’ll have the Radio going and the Tv on the NFl channel at the sametime.. …
It would be a big hit to sports in the Bayarea if the Raiders go down south… I was raised in the bayarea and lived in LA for a decade and I like northern Cali much better…
I still think something will happen to keep the team in the Bay area … Hopefully in Oakland
January 12th, 2012 at 5:41 am
I heard that this AM to Carl… I just googled her, HOLY SH!TBALLS!!! If he’s a virgin then he is a pole smoker, wait till you see the cans on this broad!
January 12th, 2012 at 5:42 am
salaswildthoughts.blogspot.com
Tebows chick
January 12th, 2012 at 5:45 am
BCZ…lmaoooo…
January 12th, 2012 at 5:45 am
Bay Area News Group columnists Monte Poole, Mark Purdy and Tim Kawakami sat down Tuesday and gave their opinions on the Raiders’ firing of coach Hue Jackson
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I haven’t watched this, but I imagine it’s just a bunch of hater b.s. – much like that Mike Silver article yesterday
correct?
January 12th, 2012 at 5:46 am
@Fingers, my wife HATES that NFLN channel! I always get the, ahhhh babe, not in the car too! LMAO!
The Raiders have to stay in Oakland, Davis II can’t move the team AGAIN!
@Bcz24, gotta be a poo jammer if he wasn’t banging that…
January 12th, 2012 at 5:48 am
New general manager Reggie McKenzie has an interview planned with Todd Bowles as a potential replacement for fired head coach Hue Jackson, according to an ESPN report.
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Isn’t Bowles a “Parcells guy” ???
If he gets hired, should we expect a flood of ex-cowboy & ex-dolphin asst coaches?
January 12th, 2012 at 5:48 am
RRS, I refused to watvh it as well for the same reasons.
January 12th, 2012 at 5:50 am
Carl… I hear ya… My girl says the samething… Awww not in the car too… I’ve got Sirius in all my cars …drives her nuts… And on Sundays… Two or three games going on all my TVs …. But she is a diehard Raider … She tailgates with the best of them..
January 12th, 2012 at 5:50 am
That Tebow pic with the girl with huge cans in the brown shirt was taken years ago in Florida and is not his girlfriend.
That has been an internet rumor for like 5 years.
January 12th, 2012 at 5:50 am
You guys with Sirius, do you listen to Tim Ryan and Pat Kirwan on NFL 88 in the afternoons? That is by far my favorite NFL show.
January 12th, 2012 at 5:51 am
I really hope Reggie brings in a HC with experince. I don’t like the idea of a young inexperienced HC, AGAIN!
January 12th, 2012 at 5:52 am
The Raiders lease ends in 2013, in Oakland.
My money is on them not signing a new long-term lease there.
They may sign a short-term deal while something is in the makes of being built.
January 12th, 2012 at 5:53 am
Good thing JFB. Those tits were sent by the devil to lead men astray! LOL… Church or those devils… hmmm Welp looks like eternal damnation for me!
January 12th, 2012 at 5:54 am
When you work for the Raiders, you understand that Al Davis is first and foremost – you work for him. So I didn’t get an opportunity to put everybody that I wanted on my staff or run the team to do with football operations the way that I see fit. – Hue Jax
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what a clown!
Give me one other GM in the NFL that would give Hue friggin Jackson the authority to hire his own staff and run “football operations”?
Isn’t OPERATIONS a GM’s job?
Hue was an asst coach before Al Davis brought him in. Show a little respect phag
January 12th, 2012 at 5:54 am
whatever the new stadium situation is I just have 2 requests, 1. NO MORE BASEBALL IN OUR HOUSE! 2. Put a freakin sign with the Raiders shield on the damn thing
January 12th, 2012 at 5:54 am
I was a little suprised to see Todd Bowles being interviewed ….
But he is a defensive minded coach…
January 12th, 2012 at 5:56 am
BCZ… I listen to that show too… It is the best….
January 12th, 2012 at 5:57 am
I think the A’s will be down in Santa Clara or San Jose … They’ll have their own park… As they should .
January 12th, 2012 at 5:57 am
I have a boombox where the radio pops out and I put it in the family car or my truck. Bought the lifetime membership 5 years ago, best money I ever spent! I thikn my wife is jealous of the raiders and NFLN!
@Bcz24, I love those guys, I wish they were on earlier. Gannon and Shein are entertaining, Jim Miller is good, I used to not like Ross Tucker but he’s grown on me…
January 12th, 2012 at 5:57 am
Do you have to have an upgraded package for this XM radio station?
I have the normal deal with them, and never knew there was an NFL station, lol.
What’s the station #?
January 12th, 2012 at 5:58 am
BCZ,
Bowles is from New Jersey.
as a loud mouthed new yorker, do you have any thoughts regarding him?
January 12th, 2012 at 5:59 am
I listen to Rich Gannon and Adam Schine too… Schine pizzes me off a lot … But Gannon’s usually pretty fair..
January 12th, 2012 at 5:59 am
Channel 88 JFB, I just have the normal Sirius account, it isn’t an XM station
January 12th, 2012 at 6:00 am
349.fingers Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 5:54 am
I was a little suprised to see Todd Bowles being interviewed ….
But he is a defensive minded coach…
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Bowles is completing the Rooney rule portion of the HC search.
January 12th, 2012 at 6:01 am
Just fire…. They added Sirius to my XM package when they merged so I get the NFl channel on ch 88..
January 12th, 2012 at 6:01 am
I know nothing more about him than he led the Dolphins to a 2-1 record as interim head coach. I sincerely doubt his anything more than satisfaction of the Rooney rule, and something to keep Reggie busy while the playoffs go on. Maybe it was a tune up interview for him as it was his first as GM
January 12th, 2012 at 6:03 am
Gannon is pretty good and where Schine does piss me off at times he gives me some good laughs too. Equivalent to when I used to listem to Jim Rome I guess. Without the ten thousand emails read live.
January 12th, 2012 at 6:03 am
I wish I would have gotten the lifetime subscription years ago. They are raising their rates now. I pay 16.95 a month for the Radio in my car and to have the app on my phone/internet access so i can really listen anywhere.
January 12th, 2012 at 6:04 am
You can get the local ( Oakland feed) on Sirius and not have to
Listen to the Network broadcast … Pretty cool
January 12th, 2012 at 6:04 am
Hey hgave you guys ever listened to Mad Dog Radio? I have only heard him on Howard and he sounds like a total clown that makes more mistakes than Harry Carey! (I love Carey btw)
January 12th, 2012 at 6:07 am
I’m sure that the team doesn’t want to leave Oakland but I think they are using the LA thing as leverage to get a new stadium in Oakland. Didn’t they bury Al not too far away?
January 12th, 2012 at 6:07 am
Bcz24, good point about the tune up interview. Maybe these guys are old pals and Todd gets a free trip to Oakland while Reggie gets some experience. I expect a couple more interviews before a decision is made.
January 12th, 2012 at 6:07 am
I’ve got Sirius on my IPhone now… So when I’m
Out of town I’m set up…
January 12th, 2012 at 6:08 am
Yeah I never listen to Mad Dog. Russo sounds like an assclown. No interest. I pretty much only listen to Howard in the morning and NFL radio the rest of the day.
January 12th, 2012 at 6:09 am
Bowles has only been coaching since 2005. 7 years
I dont have a problem with him getting the HC gig, but it’s gonna make those OC & DC hires extremely important !!!
January 12th, 2012 at 6:09 am
Raiderbuck… I was thinking the samething… They might be lighting a fire under the investers to get some movement…. And I’m not sure where Al was buried..
January 12th, 2012 at 6:09 am
XM and Sirius are the same thing right?
They merged and all.
Station 88, will have to check it out.
Mad Dog radio sucks, all they talk about is Yanks-Sox, and the Pats.
I listen to CNBC most of the time, and will catch Rude Jude occasionally on shade 45.
January 12th, 2012 at 6:09 am
bcz24 Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 6:08 am
Yeah I never listen to Mad Dog. Russo sounds like an assclown. No interest. I pretty much only listen to Howard in the morning and NFL radio the rest of the day.
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Thats pretty much my sched for the day. Evenings and weekends are mixed with Deep Tracks, Classic Vinyl and the Boneyard!
January 12th, 2012 at 6:11 am
I want XM wired into my house.
BCZ, just call and cancel and negotiate a new rate. I have learned over 2.5 years having XM, EVERYTHING is negotiable.
I think my last deal was like $55 for 6 months.
January 12th, 2012 at 6:12 am
Deep tracks gets me through some long nights driving. They will do a Dylan hour at night sometimes.
January 12th, 2012 at 6:13 am
XM and Sirius are the same thing, but their channels are still on different bandwiths and seperate packages. I don’t know, its weird. If you get mad dog you should get NFL88 though. Ross Tucker is the weak link on that channel, everyone else is good though.
January 12th, 2012 at 6:14 am
JFB, you can get a boombox where the radio slides into the face from your vehicle. Or listen olnine like I am right now. It comes with a subscription, just sign up, install and play.
January 12th, 2012 at 6:14 am
GOOD MORNING FELLOW RAIDER FAN’S..AT LEAST MR.MCKENZIE IS HERE AND ON THE JOB.AGREE WITH HUE DECISION OR NOT,GLAD HE (MCKENZIE)MADE A DECISION AND IS GETTING ON WITH THE PROCESS.
January 12th, 2012 at 6:15 am
JFB for $4 extra you can get the internet feed for Sirius/XM so you can have it on your phone (iPhone or Android) or on your computer. No need to run the stupid antenna inside. Works for me, I just hook my laptop to my stereo when Im home via HDMI cable.
January 12th, 2012 at 6:15 am
I just want a reciever wired into my garage and loft, so I can listen to baseball games (Giants games).
January 12th, 2012 at 6:16 am
I’ve got sirius everywhere… iPhone, portable Radios, cars, my stereos … iPhone docks…
…much better than network radio .. Or Tv broadcast
January 12th, 2012 at 6:17 am
Yep…get all the baseball too ..A’s here…
January 12th, 2012 at 6:17 am
The one guy I can’t stand listening to is Derrek Brooks. Man does he sound dumb for someone who was so good at MLB.
January 12th, 2012 at 6:18 am
Laptop is work computer, and PC is a POS in the extra spare room.
I use land lines more than cell phones, write checks more than on-line banking, and listen to baseball games over the radio,lol.
I am 31 going on 71.
January 12th, 2012 at 6:18 am
Yeah I forgot about him, cuz I listen to Howard in the mornings. He is pretty weak. Sounds like Reggie McKenzies press conference. LOL
January 12th, 2012 at 6:19 am
Ok… I gotta do some chores… Y’all be good … Talk at ya later …
January 12th, 2012 at 6:19 am
Bowles is completing the Rooney rule portion of the HC search
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CW,
that was my first thought as well. I just didn’t want to be the one to say it
January 12th, 2012 at 6:20 am
I am 31 going on 71.
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Hey at least you got a good Brooklyn Italian woman to take care of you!
January 12th, 2012 at 6:20 am
bcz24 Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 5:41 am
I heard that this AM to Carl… I just googled her, HOLY SH!TBALLS!!! If he’s a virgin then he is a pole smoker, wait till you see the cans on this broad!
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Seriously. Unreal.
January 12th, 2012 at 6:20 am
377.bcz24 Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 6:15 am
JFB for $4 extra you can get the internet feed for Sirius/XM so you can have it on your phone (iPhone or Android) or on your computer. No need to run the stupid antenna inside. Works for me, I just hook my laptop to my stereo when Im home via HDMI cable.
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I thikn the extra money is for more channels than what the car/home radio offers. I have an internet player that comes with, but the channels are a little limited. I see on the channel list that there are extras for internet subscribers that I don’t get.
January 12th, 2012 at 6:21 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Todd Bowles…first I seen that and I was like, “Who da F is that?…” But then I read into it and went, huh? Really? Is this to satisfy the Rooney Rule? But for those that may know a thing or two about him…is he even worth it?
Dirt Lot…Good Morning! I agree…at least he came in and made a decision! That is what we need!
January 12th, 2012 at 6:22 am
I sincerely doubt his anything more than satisfaction of the Rooney rule, and something to keep Reggie busy while the playoffs go on. Maybe it was a tune up interview for him as it was his first as GM
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BCZ,
that makes (at least) 3 of us!
January 12th, 2012 at 6:24 am
332.Carl Weathers Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 5:21 am
I know you have sirius that’s why I ask.
Regarding a stadium, If the Jets & Giants can share a stadium in one of the largest cities in the world, why not the Raiders & 9ers?
Why not? Simple…the two fan bases! If you live in the Bay…you know exactly why I mention that!
2…location! Santa Clara? Hmmmm….
January 12th, 2012 at 6:24 am
Chris in NY Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 6:20 am
bcz24 Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 5:41 am
I heard that this AM to Carl… I just googled her, HOLY SH!TBALLS!!! If he’s a virgin then he is a pole smoker, wait till you see the cans on this broad!
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Seriously. Unreal.
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I’ll add my voice to this. It’s like a guy getting the best, most expensive Lamborghini out there…and then leaving it in his garage and never driving it.
January 12th, 2012 at 6:26 am
hwnrdr Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 6:21 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Todd Bowles…first I seen that and I was like, “Who da F is that?…” But then I read into it and went, huh? Really? Is this to satisfy the Rooney Rule? But for those that may know a thing or two about him…is he even worth it?
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Winston Moss is black, so if Reggie really wants him, his interview would satisfy the Rooney Rule.
Bowles is being interviewed because he’s a serious candidate I really believe. From what I know, he’s a Mike Tomlin type…a rising star in the coaching ranks, defensive minded (actually both were DB coaches), quiet and intense in public but will absolutely tear players a new azzhole in private.
January 12th, 2012 at 6:28 am
JET’S & GIANTS FANS R AS BAD OR WORSE THAN RAIDER/ 9ERS HWNRDR.
January 12th, 2012 at 6:29 am
If it’ll keep the Raiders in the Bay Area, I see no reason why they shouldn’t share the Santa Clara site if the 49ers are willing and I believe they are at least open to the possibility.
I live in Pittsburgh, but my Raiders belong in the Bay Area.
January 12th, 2012 at 6:29 am
391.hwnrdr Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 6:24 am
332.Carl Weathers Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 5:21 am
I know you have sirius that’s why I ask.
Regarding a stadium, If the Jets & Giants can share a stadium in one of the largest cities in the world, why not the Raiders & 9ers?
Why not? Simple…the two fan bases! If you live in the Bay…you know exactly why I mention that!
2…location! Santa Clara? Hmmmm….
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I don’t live in the Bay area. How would this affect sharing a stadium? Is the hatred that deep? Or is it something else.
January 12th, 2012 at 6:31 am
Bowles is being interviewed because he’s a serious candidate I really believe. From what I know, he’s a Mike Tomlin type…a rising star in the coaching ranks, defensive minded (actually both were DB coaches), quiet and intense in public but will absolutely tear players a new azzhole in private.
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My opinion wasn’t really based on any knowledge of Bowles. I don’t know much about him, but hell if he is good as Tomlin Ill take him! Just leary of another rookie coach. But I guess every good coach is a rookie coach at some point.
January 12th, 2012 at 6:31 am
394.DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 6:28 am
JET’S & GIANTS FANS R AS BAD OR WORSE THAN RAIDER/ 9ERS HWNRDR.
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This is what I was thinking, these fuggin guys hate each other as much as any rivalry. It’s not like they have to go to the stadium to see the 2 teams playing on fields next to one another.
January 12th, 2012 at 6:32 am
The fans dont matter really. They wont be in the stadium at the same time except once every four years, and hell every 8th year we get an extra home game.
January 12th, 2012 at 6:34 am
Winston Moss is black, so if Reggie really wants him, his interview would satisfy the Rooney Rule.
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The Packers may end up playing for another 3 & 1/2 weeks. The position may be filled by then or he may not be the one Reggie wants.
January 12th, 2012 at 6:34 am
My opinion wasn’t really based on any knowledge of Bowles. I don’t know much about him, but hell if he is good as Tomlin Ill take him! Just leary of another rookie coach. But I guess every good coach is a rookie coach at some point.
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I’ll be honest, I have my reservations about guys like Moss and Bowles precisely because they are rookies. However, Moss also holds the title of assistant HC in Green Bay and Bowles was a head coach for 3 games in Miami this season…it’s not a lot, but they’d both be familiar with the job at least.
For myself, I either want a guy like Moss or Bowles, who have dipped their toes into being a head coach or an experienced guy. (Gruden? Del Rio?) What I don’t want are any total newbies.
January 12th, 2012 at 6:34 am
Carl…I guess what Dirt Lot said is right…Jets/Giants fans could be worse…
Think back to last pre-season and why there will be no more battle of the Bay! I guess…It was stupid and embarrassing!
January 12th, 2012 at 6:36 am
Ok, guys who live here that go to games…would you go to Santa Clara? Not sure if I would keep my season tickets but…
January 12th, 2012 at 6:37 am
Better yet…would you want to g o in there with THEIR banners up? Do they do that in New Jersey?
January 12th, 2012 at 6:41 am
Holy sh!t, I just read that Mike Silver Yahoo piece. Might be THE most disgusting hatchet job I’ve ever read in sports journalism, and that covers ACRES AND ACRES OF ground.
Silver should be fcking ashamed of himself. To say he wants to clean house to get rid of people who might have seen his dad be mean to him? Are you fcking kidding me?
He paints Mark Davis as a man-child with severe daddy issues and bases it entirely on anonymous gossip. He’s dancing dangerously close to libel.
Look, Mike, I know HueJax was your pal but collect your emotions and be a g-damn professional.
January 12th, 2012 at 6:43 am
I think the Jets/Giants stadium is ideal for the Raiders/49ers situation.
Just not so sure about Santa Clara as the site for it.
But than again the Jets/Giants play in New Jersey, so I guess that’s how these things work.
Point is, a new stadium is essential for the Raiders to compete moving forward.
January 12th, 2012 at 6:44 am
NOT SURE THE GUMM-HEADS IN OFFICE IN THE BAY AREA RIGHT NOW COULD MAKE THE WHOLE 2 TEAM STADIUM THING WORK.DONT THINK I WILL BE ALIVE 2 C IT.
January 12th, 2012 at 6:44 am
I agree that a rookie HC is not very desirable for this team. However, solid experienced coordinators on both sides of the ball would be a huge plus…
I would love Del Rio to come in as DC… Not only because he knows defense, but is a Raider at heart!!
January 12th, 2012 at 6:44 am
From what I understand, O.co is a crumbling sh!theap. The Raiders do need a new stadium. The A’s too for that matter and Lew Wolff is apparently dead set on getting it even to the point of becoming the San Jose A’s.
I think Mark Davis will be too. And I can’t blame either one. Hard to attract top tier free agents when you have sh!tty facilities.
January 12th, 2012 at 6:47 am
NOT SURE IF I WOULD GO TO SANTA CLARA HWNRDR.WOULD HAVE 2 GO A TIME OR 2 TO GET THE FEEL.KIND OF A CATCH-22
January 12th, 2012 at 6:50 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 6:26 am
hwnrdr Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 6:21 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Todd Bowles…first I seen that and I was like, “Who da F is that?…” But then I read into it and went, huh? Really? Is this to satisfy the Rooney Rule? But for those that may know a thing or two about him…is he even worth it?
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Winston Moss is black, so if Reggie really wants him, his interview would satisfy the Rooney Rule.
Bowles is being interviewed because he’s a serious candidate I really believe. From what I know, he’s a Mike Tomlin type…a rising star in the coaching ranks, defensive minded (actually both were DB coaches), quiet and intense in public but will absolutely tear players a new azzhole in private.
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exactly. mckenzie doesnt fck around with BS. he’s interviewing bowles because he’s on his short list (ones he can interview now), is a genuine candidate. bowles is highly regarded.
January 12th, 2012 at 6:50 am
I’ve been a Raider fan from the 70’s… was shocked that Al packed it up and went south in the 80’s and was elated that he brought the team back to Oakland…
OAKLAND is where the Raiders BELONG… F@ck the whole stadium sharing thing.. Take a page from Tampa Bay and other teams and put a new stadium up either in the same footprint or beside O.co..
SilverNBlackPA can probably attest that its really lame that the Pitt Panthers have to share Ketchup Field with the Queer-lers with its god-awful baby-sh!t yellow seats… It really isnt a home for the Panthers..
January 12th, 2012 at 6:51 am
O.co stadium is at a perfect location. I have been to 5 NFL stadiums, and it is easily the most convenient and easily accessible location.
But the stadium wasn’t even a top-tier stadium ,when we relocated in 1994.
An upgrade is long overdue.
January 12th, 2012 at 6:54 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 6:51 am
O.co stadium is at a perfect location. I have been to 5 NFL stadiums, and it is easily the most convenient and easily accessible location.
But the stadium wasn’t even a top-tier stadium ,when we relocated in 1994.
An upgrade is long overdue.
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I know Al wanted a stadium on the same site and Trask has argued that it’s a good idea to build it, even in tough economic times, because it would act as a stimulus and create jobs and yadda yadda yadda.
Can anyone who lives in the Bay tell me if that line of argument has gained any traction? I’m going to guess not.
January 12th, 2012 at 6:55 am
SilverNBlackPA can probably attest that its really lame that the Pitt Panthers have to share Ketchup Field with the Queer-lers with its god-awful baby-sh!t yellow seats… It really isnt a home for the Panthers..
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I can. Peterson is a tool bag. Tore down Pitt Stadium and moved the Panthers to Heinz Field which is NOT in a convenient location for Pitt students. Meanwhile, Pitt plays its games on Saturdays and when the Steelers have a home game the next day, it assures the field is torn to sh!t and gone.
January 12th, 2012 at 6:56 am
Building a stadium is always fantastic for the local economy, but you got to have the money upfront to do so.
Municipal funding seems to be at slim to no chance, and Mark doesn’t seem like he has a few hundred million in the coffers.
January 12th, 2012 at 6:58 am
BEEN GOING THERE MY WHOLE LIFE.1ST RAIDER GAME IN 1968.BASEBALL, FOOTBALL.I DONT CARE MYSELF.PLACE IS OK 2 ME.BUT BUISNESS WISE,THE RAIDERS NEED A NEW FACILITY
January 12th, 2012 at 6:59 am
Winston Moss is black, so if Reggie really wants him, his interview would satisfy the Rooney Rule.
Bowles is being interviewed because he’s a serious candidate I really believe. From what I know, he’s a Mike Tomlin type…a rising star in the coaching ranks, defensive minded (actually both were DB coaches), quiet and intense in public but will absolutely tear players a new azzhole in private.
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PA,
thanks for the info. i love it!
January 12th, 2012 at 6:59 am
The site where The O is now is a huge spot and the plan from the Mayor is to build a Coliseum Complex, or whatever she called it. There is space to build all 3 so that the Raiders/A’s/Warriors can all still be in Oakland! Wolf,however wants to leave Oakland…he gt rid of pretty much everyone to make sure we lose 100 games this year! What a…
January 12th, 2012 at 7:00 am
417.DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 6:58 am
BEEN GOING THERE MY WHOLE LIFE.1ST RAIDER GAME IN 1968.BASEBALL, FOOTBALL.I DONT CARE MYSELF.PLACE IS OK 2 ME.BUT BUISNESS WISE,THE RAIDERS NEED A NEW FACILITY
I agree…Yes, we need a new stadium…but I cannot see The San Jose Raiders…NO! And I know that The Giants and Jets are still called New York, but still…
January 12th, 2012 at 7:03 am
404.hwnrdr Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 6:37 am
Better yet…would you want to g o in there with THEIR banners up? Do they do that in New Jersey?
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The Jets/Giants stadium is unique. There are no banners. The entire inside is surrounded by LED lights, when the Jets play they are green, and the signs are turned on as Jets signs, when the giants play its all blue. Check it out on TV and look closely. Its pretty cool actually.
January 12th, 2012 at 7:07 am
Anyways…So Bowles is a Tomlin type of guy? That would be good especially since Tomlin is a no BS kinda guy! But hard to tell…
Bcz24…thanks for that info!
January 12th, 2012 at 7:08 am
Mark Davis grew up in LA and considers himself a SoCal guy.
Mark hired an LA Raider to manage his team.
LA will have a state of the art facility.
Lease is up in Oakland very soon.
LA will attract free agents.
LA has the Lakers, not the Warriors.
McFadden and Palmer will be stars in LA.
Brien will have to pack up and move to LA soon….or become a 49er fan, but they have always been his second favorite team anyhow, so no big deal……
January 12th, 2012 at 7:10 am
Wolf,however wants to leave Oakland…he gt rid of pretty much everyone to make sure we lose 100 games this year! What a…
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The Cahill trade was the tip off. If they were really trying to “rebuild” and not deliberately tank, they wouldn’t have traded away a 23 year old pitcher with a huge ceiling signed to a very reasonable contract.
January 12th, 2012 at 7:14 am
MetLife Stadium:
The stadium is distinguished by an outer skin of aluminum louvers and by interior lighting that switches colors depending on which team is playing at home.[8] Essentially, unlike Giants Stadium, MetLife Stadium can easily be converted from a Giants game to a Jets game or vice versa within a matter of hours.[9] This is a technique originated at the Allianz Arena in Munich, Germany, which is shared between the city’s two major soccer teams, Bayern Munich and 1860 Munich. The special louvers and the associated hanging system were custom designed and manufactured by Overgaard Ltd. of Hong Kong and Architectural Wall Systems of Des Moines, Iowa. The total linear length of louvers is exactly 50,000 meters (50 kilometers) or 163,681 feet (31.1 miles).
Front row 50 yard line seats are 46 feet (14 m) away from the sideline, which is the shortest distance of all NFL Stadiums. To change the field decorations, two 4-man crews take about 18 hours to roll up 40 sections of FieldTurf that make up the teams’ respective endzones.[10] Unlike most NFL stadiums, the NFL logo is painted at midfield instead of the logo of one of the teams, also shortening the transition time. The replaceable team logos at midfield were removed in August 2010 after Domenik Hixon tore his anterior cruciate ligament at a practice at the stadium during training camp.[11]
Unlike a number of other new NFL venues, MetLife Stadium does not have a roof, as proposals to include a roof failed due to a dispute over funding.[12] Thus, indoor events such as the Final Four cannot be held at the facility, which runs counter to the original aims for a new stadium in northern New Jersey.[13]
Twenty giant high-definition-ready light emitting diode (LED) pylons designed, manufactured, and installed by Daktronics at the north and east entrances display videos of the team that is playing. The pylons measure approximately 54 feet (16 m) high by 20 feet (6.1 m) wide. Inside, four 30 feet (9.1 m) by 116 feet (35 m) video displays from Daktronics, which incorporate high definition video technology, hang from each corner of the upper deck.[14]
January 12th, 2012 at 7:14 am
Funny they came out with Moneyball this year, the real movie they should have made on the A’s is a remake of Major League.
January 12th, 2012 at 7:17 am
Daktronics baby! Brookings South Dakota bringing light to NYC!
January 12th, 2012 at 7:18 am
Well, New Jersey I guess….
January 12th, 2012 at 7:19 am
427
That company amazes me. Love it.
January 12th, 2012 at 7:27 am
426.Just Fire Baby Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 7:14 am
Funny they came out with Moneyball this year, the real movie they should have made on the A’s is a remake of Major League.
Yup, that is exactly what I said!
January 12th, 2012 at 7:27 am
Dakota…NO!
January 12th, 2012 at 7:41 am
YEAH BUDDY..GUESS HUE SHOULD HAVE TAKEN A SHOWER B4 THE POST-GAME PRESSER ON NEW YEARS DAY !!
January 12th, 2012 at 7:43 am
The Mike Silver article was nothing more than a smear campaign. Call me crazy but I think the average Raider fan could give a flying fck about how Al treated Mark. He was hard on his coaches and was probably hard on his son so he could be prepared to take over a hardcore business that is professional sports. Mark may not have the smartest looking haircut but atleast he had enough common sense to hire a competent NFL person to become the team’s gm so that already makes him smarter than Jerry Jones.
Mike Silver; Kill ya self
January 12th, 2012 at 7:45 am
Dakota don’t mean to come across negative just honest.
Palmer throws way to many INTs to be a star.
DMAC until he remains on the field playing will be considered, the RB who “could have been.”
Until this team becomes more disciplined they don’t need to move the stadium to LA.
Do agree that LA may attract more free agents but we need to win first. If we win, “they will come.” LOL!!!
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423.Dakota Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 7:08 am
Mark Davis grew up in LA and considers himself a SoCal guy.
Mark hired an LA Raider to manage his team.
LA will have a state of the art facility.
Lease is up in Oakland very soon.
LA will attract free agents.
LA has the Lakers, not the Warriors.
McFadden and Palmer will be stars in LA.
Brien will have to pack up and move to LA soon….or become a 49er fan, but they have always been his second favorite team anyhow, so no big deal……
January 12th, 2012 at 7:46 am
I’ll be honest, I have my reservations about guys like Moss and Bowles precisely because they are rookies. However, Moss also holds the title of assistant HC in Green Bay and Bowles was a head coach for 3 games in Miami this season…it’s not a lot, but they’d both be familiar with the job at least.
For myself, I either want a guy like Moss or Bowles, who have dipped their toes into being a head coach or an experienced guy. (Gruden? Del Rio?) What I don’t want are any total newbies.
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PA,
Del Rio as HC? doubtful.
I remember when he brought an axe and a huge chunk of wood into the Jags locker room. This was to tell his players to “keep hacking away at it” . punter Chris Hanson whacked his own leg with the axe and ended up on I.R. – LOL!
We can’t afford to lose Shane Lechler …
January 12th, 2012 at 7:48 am
426.Just Fire Baby Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 7:14 am
Funny they came out with Moneyball this year, the real movie they should have made on the A’s is a remake of Major League.
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Absolutely…
the sequel to Moneyball would be a version of major league, with a troll like owner and a d-bag GM…
Sad thing is they’ve been at this for 3 seasons already and people are just figuring it out now…
Blew Wolf is a JCAT as B would say…
January 12th, 2012 at 7:52 am
Hwnrdr: I go to half the games each year and I WOULD go to Santa Clara to see the team play, but there’s no way it would feel the same as going to the Coliseum…
would love to see them break ground in the North Lot and build a modern multi purpose facility, like Reliant in Hou, with a cloasable roof for wintertime events like Supercross, Large Concerts, soccer…
Help keep the culiseum workers working, bring in revenue to the city…Etc.
January 12th, 2012 at 7:52 am
There are people every game that holds signs that Wolf must go…NOW!
But, sad as it is…it is his team! ANd Billy Beane…well…
January 12th, 2012 at 7:53 am
RE:437
^^^South Lot^^^^
January 12th, 2012 at 7:53 am
Bynum with the HUGE Block last night.
Orlando, we need your 1st rd pick too if you want us to take that slacker Howard off you hands!
January 12th, 2012 at 7:54 am
You guys want a veteran HC.
McKenzie wants someone he is familiar with, and he was a Raider from 1985-1988, when someone we are all familiar with was an assistant coach in LA.
Can you say Art Shell part III?
January 12th, 2012 at 7:54 am
I’m with you there VanHeathen! I would go, because its still within an hour and half for me where I live, but it wouldn’t sit well with me being in Santa Clara! Unless we all go to Santana Row after…here’s to every Monday off after!
January 12th, 2012 at 7:55 am
440.J Hill Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 7:53 am
Bynum with the HUGE Block last night.
Orlando, we need your 1st rd pick too if you want us to take that slacker Howard off you hands!
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We want J. Nelson too.
January 12th, 2012 at 7:56 am
J Hill…you think Bynum stays healthy this year? Is that what Mike Brown is banking on?
January 12th, 2012 at 7:57 am
I agree that a rookie HC is not very desirable for this team. However, solid experienced coordinators on both sides of the ball would be a huge plus…
I would love Del Rio to come in as DC… Not only because he knows defense, but is a Raider at heart!!
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great comment, RIP!
co-signed
January 12th, 2012 at 7:58 am
I used to have a friend who worked for the raiders and he said that hues ego was way out of control. Even when cable was still the head coach hue would disrespect him and know he could get away with anything because he was Al’s guy.ithink the team and the coaches past ns present may be a little more than happy now that his ego has left the building.
January 12th, 2012 at 7:58 am
Can you say Art Shell part III?
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Shell aint leavin his swanky NFL corporate gig
January 12th, 2012 at 7:59 am
Kobe was having a great game, shooting 13 for 25….then I turned on NBATV to watch the end of the game and he proceeded to shoot like 1-7 from the field for the remainder of the game and overtime.
Dakota jinx.
January 12th, 2012 at 8:00 am
Del Rio doesn’t exactly have a resounding record as a head coach. You guys complained of Hue not devoting enough time to the job, but I heard a ton of the same stories about Del Rio, and how a ton of guys in Jax were happy he was gone.
January 12th, 2012 at 8:00 am
Sad they are doing that to the A’s fan base too.
As a Gigantes fan, not afraid to say that the A’s “base” are much more hardcore baseball fans. I do know a good crew of die-hard, hardcore Giants fans, but a lot of those people at the games are sushi-eating sissies.
You get the old ladies at A’s games, with all their pins in their floppy hat, and they know the RF for the AAA team. Some Giants fans don’t even know the Giants RF, lol.
You guys should revolt. What their doing is beyond ridiculous.
January 12th, 2012 at 8:02 am
How do you Al Davis fans feel now about the old man after Silver revealed that his “succession plan” was to emasculate his own son in front of others? That, according to Mark, he left no real strategic plan behind? I see Silver’s article as less a hit piece on Mark (it’s too contradictory to be that) then confirmation that Al was the complete prik everyone suspected he was. Good riddance.
January 12th, 2012 at 8:03 am
Art Shell will NOT be considered Dakota, cmon man.
January 12th, 2012 at 8:06 am
Cowher
Gruden
I would be pumped with either of those guys. But that just is not going to happen.
Del Rio would be okay.
The darkhorse I am rooting for is Joe Philbin, the Packers OC. OC since 2007, they have done pretty well with him (Yes, Aaron Rogers/Favre had something to do with that as well)
Why not hire a Packer from the side of the ball that does well, instead of one of their Defensive guys…..their defense sucks ballz too.
January 12th, 2012 at 8:06 am
452.Forrest Hump Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 8:03 am
Art Shell will NOT be considered Dakota, cmon man.
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lol, I was only joking.
January 12th, 2012 at 8:08 am
exactly. mckenzie doesnt fck around with BS. he’s interviewing bowles because he’s on his short list (ones he can interview now), is a genuine candidate. bowles is highly regarded.
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GG = stud blogger
January 12th, 2012 at 8:08 am
And on top of that, they want to move the Warriors back to SF right by the Giants!
January 12th, 2012 at 8:10 am
Hue coming on 95.7 in 20 minutes.
January 12th, 2012 at 8:12 am
The city of Oakland needs to step it’s game up.
This is big business, and there is no place for old feelings in big business.
January 12th, 2012 at 8:14 am
It must a sobering moment for Hue, riding high all year as he was virtually given the keys to the Raiders organization, and then in one swooping wave of the hand, he’s unemployed. Hue is now saying he should have taken a cold shower, instead of going on his pizzing rant, but he didn’t change his tune much the next day, in fact he made his situation worse on his “I want more power and control” bit.
Have you also noticed how even Corky here now blasts Hue? How fast can things change? Calling out Hue yesterday and today, Hue on full spin control mode.
Hue’s mouth and ego were running amock, and whether or not what he said in the last two pressers made the difference and tipped the scales, Hue demonstrated over his entire stint that he’s not head coaching material.
RegMac better be wise, I know he’s bound on many situations, but excuse me, I hope he’s not looking at Todd Bowles as a long term answer for the head coaching job. Obviously, I don’t know what’s on RegMac’s mind, but he’d better do much better than Todd Bowles.
January 12th, 2012 at 8:14 am
The darkhorse I am rooting for is Joe Philbin, the Packers OC. OC since 2007, they have done pretty well with him (Yes, Aaron Rogers/Favre had something to do with that as well)
Why not hire a Packer from the side of the ball that does well, instead of one of their Defensive guys…..their defense sucks ballz too.
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Dakota,
I’ll take Philbin as HC with Clements as OC.
Mike McCarthy is getting all the credit for their work!
…….or maybe Aaron Rodgers just makes all 3 of these guys look good?
January 12th, 2012 at 8:14 am
Dakota,
Why love LA so much?
BTW, Lakers and LA suck!!
Stay classy SD!!!
Go Aztecs!!!
SD> LA
Move the Raiders to SD, and send the chargers to Dakota? Which one? Does it matter?
January 12th, 2012 at 8:14 am
Chris in NY Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 8:10 am
Hue coming on 95.7 in 20 minutes.
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Cable had the decency to just shut his damn mouth and go away. Ugh.
January 12th, 2012 at 8:15 am
I am still pretty upset about the Silver article on Yahoo yesterday even after Florio wrote an article on PFT saying the Silver story was false and had no merit.
Why would Yahoo let him post such a slanderous article.
This really bothers me it was pure slander there has to be standards in place to protect people from crap like that!
January 12th, 2012 at 8:15 am
Vittorio Tafur pointed out that suddenly Hue is calling the guy who hired him “Al Davis” instead of “Coach Davis.”
What a fake-azz b.s. artist this guy is.
January 12th, 2012 at 8:16 am
I like the Raiders in Oakland, but if they have to move,move them to SD.
SD Raiders!!!
January 12th, 2012 at 8:16 am
J Hill…you think Bynum stays healthy this year?
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Who knows????
Plenty of clumsy cats in the league that could come crashing down on his knee.
I don’t think Kobe will take him out again. I think he’s ok with sharing the limelight these days compared to when he was a little younger, lol.
January 12th, 2012 at 8:16 am
Wasn’t Philbin’s kid just fished out of a river? He was an assistant at Iowa Hawkeyes for years, but his son was up on Sexual deviant charges and then they fished his body out of the drink a few days later. (I think, unless I’m mixing my news stories up)
January 12th, 2012 at 8:17 am
461.Raider O Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 8:14 am
Dakota,
Why love LA so much?
BTW, Lakers and LA suck!!
Stay classy SD!!!
Go Aztecs!!!
SD> LA
Move the Raiders to SD, and send the chargers to Dakota? Which one? Does it matter?
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I really don’t care that much. They were in LA when I was a kid. But I do think they would have a better time attracting free agents.
Mainly I post that stuff to get under Brien’s skin a bit.
And certainly South Dakota, not North Dakota. I’d take the Rapid City Chargers…..then I could see two Raider games a year, one in Rapid and one in Denver.
January 12th, 2012 at 8:17 am
Hue coming on 95.7 in 20 minutes
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I hope he’s going on to announce that he’s the new OC in KC or SD!
most likely going to be considered at Atlanta & Jax as well.
the radio interview will just be more about why the Raiders canned him and his self-defense speech. who cares? I’m backing Mark Davis, Reggie McKenzie and the Raiders. the rest of you clowns can go jump in the lake
January 12th, 2012 at 8:18 am
Hue is fake!
All that coach Davis stuff was done as soon as he was fired.
Then he want to talk about how he wasn’t able to pick his staff and roster.
Hue,
STFU you fake POS.
You knew the situation before you took the job, so STFU.
January 12th, 2012 at 8:18 am
They should move the Warriors unis into the nearest garbage can. Those jerseys are hard to look at.
January 12th, 2012 at 8:19 am
Hue’s mouth and ego were running amock, and whether or not what he said in the last two pressers made the difference and tipped the scales, Hue demonstrated over his entire stint that he’s not head coaching material.
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Zopi, you’ve got a friend in RRS
January 12th, 2012 at 8:19 am
They are about to debate Bynum for Howard straight up on ESPN First Take, Dakota.
Skip likes Bynum, lol!
January 12th, 2012 at 8:19 am
Screw Silver, the backstabbing lowlife who waited untill Al was dead to start preaching and stabbing Al and his family in the back.
Al treated a lot of people badly and Mark may have been crapped on. But you can bet there are plenty of lies mixed in with the truth as that is the way Silver earns a living. However that does not change a few facts.
Al may very well have been tough on Mark and Carol but I bet he raised one tough smart son.
Lots of dads are tough on sons because they know its rough out there and only the best survive
Mark talks like he is very sharp and he knows he is not sharp enough to run the team.
He should have the support of the entire Raider Nation.
He has mine 100%
Best year ever!!!
January 12th, 2012 at 8:19 am
466.J Hill Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 8:16 am
J Hill…you think Bynum stays healthy this year?
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Who knows????
Plenty of clumsy cats in the league that could come crashing down on his knee.
I don’t think Kobe will take him out again. I think he’s ok with sharing the limelight these days compared to when he was a little younger, lol.
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Or he could just land on someone’s foot and hurt his knee again, like he did last year.
January 12th, 2012 at 8:20 am
473.J Hill Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 8:19 am
They are about to debate Bynum for Howard straight up on ESPN First Take, Dakota.
Skip likes Bynum, lol!
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That seals the deal, get Howard now. Skip is clueless.
January 12th, 2012 at 8:20 am
Dakota,
Rapid city Chargers!!!! I love it!!
Ask your important friends if they can make it happen.
January 12th, 2012 at 8:21 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 8:17 am
Hue coming on 95.7 in 20 minutes
Hue who?
January 12th, 2012 at 8:21 am
I wouldn’t trade Ekpe Udoh for Bynum straight up.
That dude doesn’t have 300 games left in him!!!
January 12th, 2012 at 8:21 am
467.Raiderbuck Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 8:16 am
Wasn’t Philbin’s kid just fished out of a river? He was an assistant at Iowa Hawkeyes for years, but his son was up on Sexual deviant charges and then they fished his body out of the drink a few days later. (I think, unless I’m mixing my news stories up)
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Yeah, his kid is dead. Shouldn’t be a distraction anymore.
January 12th, 2012 at 8:22 am
Hue Jackson landing in KC as the OC would be a dream scenario.
That would be about the only way Hue could ever fire up a Raiders team!!
He couldn’t do it when he was on our sidelines, at least when he is on the other one’s, our guys will be happy to shove his BS right up his fat mouth.
January 12th, 2012 at 8:23 am
We’re finally getting the best available exec, best coach available, who hires best asst. coaches available,…..
Isnt this what we want?
January 12th, 2012 at 8:23 am
How bout Haslett for DC…?
January 12th, 2012 at 8:23 am
Dakota Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 8:21 am
467.Raiderbuck Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 8:16 am
Wasn’t Philbin’s kid just fished out of a river? He was an assistant at Iowa Hawkeyes for years, but his son was up on Sexual deviant charges and then they fished his body out of the drink a few days later. (I think, unless I’m mixing my news stories up)
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Yeah, his kid is dead. Shouldn’t be a distraction anymore.
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Really?
January 12th, 2012 at 8:23 am
lol, I was only joking.
I cant believe you had to explain that
January 12th, 2012 at 8:24 am
One thing is clear here and seems to be throughout the fan base we all LOVE Mark Davis and support him 100%
The fact that he is taking a step in his own direction and not following in his fathers footsteps shows he is his own man.
Change is what is needed here now and Mark is bringing change.
I am excited!
January 12th, 2012 at 8:25 am
San Diego is heaven, one of the best places to live in any country.
The 2 thingsI don’t like about SD are:
1- living costs
2- chargers and their fans.
January 12th, 2012 at 8:25 am
666,
I don’t think Chris in NY loves Mark.
January 12th, 2012 at 8:25 am
“Wasn’t Philbin’s kid just fished out of a river?”
Yes his son died 2 days ago. He wasn’t a sexual deviant he was a normal 18 year old that had sex with a 16 year old and the laws in this country suck no way that should be a crime.
January 12th, 2012 at 8:25 am
Cable had the decency to just shut his damn mouth and go away. Ugh.
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PA,
Hue Jax likes to run his mouth. that shouldn’t come as a surprise to anyone. all bark and no bite
call him a chihuahua, if you wish
January 12th, 2012 at 8:26 am
“666,
I don’t think Chris in NY loves Mark.”
Well then he is one of the very few and I will have to have a talk with him today about that!
January 12th, 2012 at 8:27 am
I don’t think Hue will ever be a HC in the NFL. The best he can hope for is OC.
January 12th, 2012 at 8:27 am
Dakota has Korn ever played at the Corn Place?
January 12th, 2012 at 8:27 am
487.Raider O Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 8:25 am
San Diego is heaven, one of the best places to live in any country.
The 2 thingsI don’t like about SD are:
1- living costs
2- chargers and their fans.
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I’ve been to SF/Oak and San Diego many times. I have relatives in both areas. I would certainly have to agree that SanD is pretty awesome.
January 12th, 2012 at 8:28 am
LOL @ Dakota.
January 12th, 2012 at 8:29 am
I used to live in SD more than 20 years ago though…liked it alot…reminded me of home! And when I lived there, Tony Gwynn was the hot topic and there were no such thing as a Charger fan!
January 12th, 2012 at 8:30 am
493.Silverandblack666 Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 8:27 am
Dakota has Korn ever played at the Corn Place?
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I doubt it, but one of the local radio stations was K.O.R.N.
January 12th, 2012 at 8:30 am
who cares? I’m backing Mark Davis, Reggie McKenzie and the Raiders. the rest of you clowns can go jump in the lake
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Thank you!!!!!!
January 12th, 2012 at 8:30 am
http://www.thepostgame.com/blog/dish/201201/nfl-owner-claims-real-fans-are-season-ticket-holders
What a complete moron. And he has enough money to buy a NFL team.
January 12th, 2012 at 8:32 am
I wouldn’t trade Ekpe Udoh for Bynum straight up.
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Ws fan chiming in????
January 12th, 2012 at 8:33 am
Hue Jackson landing in KC as the OC would be a dream scenario.
That would be about the only way Hue could ever fire up a Raiders team!!
He couldn’t do it when he was on our sidelines, at least when he is on the other one’s, our guys will be happy to shove his BS right up his fat mouth.
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JFB,
exactly!
especially after he blamed everything on the Defensive players. He blamed player execution – never really said anything about his buddy Chuck B. You know those guys are gonna be fired up to face his offense
Cassel or Orton = hot garbage. Go Palmer!
January 12th, 2012 at 8:33 am
Dakota my brother said there is a lot of work in North Dakota these days with the pipeline coming…is that true?
January 12th, 2012 at 8:33 am
the Corn Palace is way to small for Korn
January 12th, 2012 at 8:33 am
Dakota,
I love it here, but I don’t think I will ever own a home here. I like my next home to be around 3000 SF, and in a nice area.
I refuse to pay 400k + for a normal home.
January 12th, 2012 at 8:34 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 8:33 am
Dakota my brother said there is a lot of work in North Dakota these days with the pipeline coming…is that true?
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Yes, ND is a booming economy these days. Specifically in the Williston area.
January 12th, 2012 at 8:34 am
New owner of the Jags endearing himself to the fans.
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Jacksonville has a new NFL owner and a new head coach. But now it also has new PR problems.
Not only was the hire of coach Mike Mularkey panned by critics Wednesday, Jaguars owner Shahid Khan is in serious damage control mode after his comments about what makes a fan of his team.
Khan explained just what it takes to be a Jaguars fan, in his opinion: “I think I can clarify at this point for me a fan is somebody who is a season ticket holder fan for the Jaguars,” said the new owner. “We want to hear from people, we want a huge amount of constructive feedback. We need input, but we need that from fans who are season ticket holders.”
So the implication is if you’re down on your luck and can’t afford season tickets in a state hit hard by the recession, you’re not a true fan.
January 12th, 2012 at 8:35 am
502.Silverandblack666 Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 8:33 am
Dakota my brother said there is a lot of work in North Dakota these days with the pipeline coming…is that true?
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Very true. Especially in Wester ND.
January 12th, 2012 at 8:35 am
Western**
January 12th, 2012 at 8:36 am
Hwnrdr,
Tony G is still huge in SD. They love him here. You still see him on TV.
January 12th, 2012 at 8:36 am
If Korn were to play a concert there would more than 150 morons show up to watch that garbage ?
I saw KORN when they opened for Metallica years ago, they are a waste of air, oxygen, electricity, and $$$
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Forrest Hump Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 8:33 am
the Corn Palace is way to small for Korn
January 12th, 2012 at 8:38 am
Some owners are just out of touch with reality. Lower the season tickets to about $25 a game and the fans will come. It aint rocket science.
January 12th, 2012 at 8:39 am
509.Raider O Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 8:36 am
Hwnrdr,
Tony G is still huge in SD. They love him here. You still see him on TV.
That is what I heard…
January 12th, 2012 at 8:40 am
400k and a 30 year loan is just too much for a normal home.
My friends and family in Ohio pay 200-250K for great homes. Huge lots, brick, etc..
January 12th, 2012 at 8:41 am
RAIDER FAHQIN NATION!
whats up brothers, just popped in to see whats cooking. big changes staring to pour in with this franchise.
Do yall think we will really move to L.A.?
January 12th, 2012 at 8:41 am
510.MistaBrown Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 8:36 am
If Korn were to play a concert there would more than 150 morons show up to watch that garbage ?
I saw KORN when they opened for Metallica years ago, they are a waste of air, oxygen, electricity, and $$$
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Forrest Hump Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 8:33 am
the Corn Palace is way to small for Korn
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One of my buddies from undergrad loved KORN….and he also watched a lot of Beavis and Butthead….and he is a Broncos fan. That was a lot to put up with…..
January 12th, 2012 at 8:42 am
MistaBrown Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 8:36 am
If Korn were to play a concert there would more than 150 morons show up to watch that garbage ?
I saw KORN when they opened for Metallica years ago, they are a waste of air, oxygen, electricity, and $$$
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Forrest Hump Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 8:33 am
the Corn Palace is way to small for Korn
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If Korn were to play there it would be the biggest name that place has drawn since Mike Miller played there.
January 12th, 2012 at 8:43 am
513.Raider O Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 8:40 am
400k and a 30 year loan is just too much for a normal home.
My friends and family in Ohio pay 200-250K for great homes. Huge lots, brick, etc..
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Sure, but you will miss the Pacific, and the warm weather.
January 12th, 2012 at 8:43 am
515
Ouch.
January 12th, 2012 at 8:46 am
511,
I agree. That one of the resins I don’t attend games.
Good tickets are about 200 -250. Parking is 25-50, and you need another 70-100 snaks and drinks.
300+ for one person to attend.
Not worth it for me. I rather get Direct TV NFL for that much money.
January 12th, 2012 at 8:47 am
Raider O Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 8:46 am
511,
I agree. That one of the resins I don’t attend games.
Good tickets are about 200 -250. Parking is 25-50, and you need another 70-100 snaks and drinks.
300+ for one person to attend.
Not worth it for me. I rather get Direct TV NFL for that much money.
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Agreed
January 12th, 2012 at 8:49 am
Dakota,
I don’t know if the Pacific and warm weather are worth an additional 1000-1500 more for the next 30 years.
January 12th, 2012 at 8:49 am
Reggie McKenzie:
“No. 1, with the short list, I will not name names until absolutely needed. Do we have enough bullets? Absolutely. We have some players in place. Now, do we have enough draft picks? No, we don’t. But we can find players in different ways. We’re going to work the college free agent market. You’ve got to work the waiver wire. You’ve got to work the lower tier unrestricted free agency. You don’t have to go after top-dollar players just to improve your team. Trust me, I’ve got 18 years of experience to know how to build a team. Draft picks, they’ll come, but we’ll figure out a way to get around that. And as far a cap, we will manage the cap. If we don’t have room right now, we’ll figure out a way to get some room. When there are players involved that we some room, we’ll figure it out. That’s our job.”
This is going to be sweet. And I don’t think It will take very long.
January 12th, 2012 at 8:49 am
LOL
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Dakota Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 8:41 am
One of my buddies from undergrad loved KORN….and he also watched a lot of Beavis and Butthead….and he is a Broncos fan. That was a lot to put up with…..
January 12th, 2012 at 8:50 am
I especially ;ike the part about not having to go after top dollar players to improve your team.
January 12th, 2012 at 8:51 am
thats how ive watched my games Raider O. for the exception of two games i watched live in attendance, i have not missed watching one raider game since 2000.
January 12th, 2012 at 8:51 am
521.Raider O Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 8:49 am
Dakota,
I don’t know if the Pacific and warm weather are worth an additional 1000-1500 more for the next 30 years.
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I guess it depends. If your job pays the same on the coast as it would in the mid-west, then hell no.
January 12th, 2012 at 8:53 am
“I will miss this place, because being a Raider is truly what it’s all about.”
- Hue Jackson
Time to move on. I know. I guess. But what a big, fat, unforgiveable mistake Reggie and Mark made.
January 12th, 2012 at 8:53 am
Raider O Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 8:40 am
400k and a 30 year loan is just too much for a normal home.
My friends and family in Ohio pay 200-250K for great homes. Huge lots, brick, etc..
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That’s just it. Then you are living in Ohio. There is a reason the cost of living is higher here. A. The weather never changes, I rarely even use AC or heat.
B. I don’t have to leave the state, everything you can think of doing is here. My daughter is completely spoiled growing up here.
I’ve lived in many diff places, Phoenix, Tucson, Atlanta. Once I left California I always knew I would be coming back for good. I don’t need a McMansion, just something to be comfortable in. For me, sacrificing that for the surroundings you are in is worth it.
January 12th, 2012 at 8:53 am
Reggie should hire an all-star cast of fromer Raider coaches.
Gruden- HC
HueJax- OC
Turner- DC
White- WRs’
Cable- OL
Shanahan- QB
Kiffin- Water Boy
Shell- Trainer
Bugel- DBs’
Callahan- TEs’
Flores- STs’
Bugel- Asst. anything
Madden Asst. HC
Rob Ryan- Public Relations
LaCosale- Committee board fixture
January 12th, 2012 at 8:57 am
Raider O,
I am starting to get tired of the winters around here. Yesterday, the wind chill was so bad, my nut hair froze just walking to my car and then shattered when I jumped in my Tahoe. I doubt that happens in San Diego.
Can you deal with Schyt like that?
January 12th, 2012 at 8:58 am
Rob Ryan- Public Relations
That right there is funny as heck!
January 12th, 2012 at 8:59 am
what a big, fat, unforgiveable mistake Reggie and Mark made.
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Chris,
you still gonna feel that way when we have 10-12 wins and bring home the AFC West crown next season ???
January 12th, 2012 at 9:01 am
Winning cures all, Rockstar…I beleive he did say he will if that happens!
January 12th, 2012 at 9:01 am
Chris in NY Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 8:53 am
“I will miss this place, because being a Raider is truly what it’s all about.”
- Hue Jackson
Time to move on. I know. I guess. But what a big, fat, unforgiveable mistake Reggie and Mark made.
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Chris,
You are still hurtin over this firing, you need to seek help.
I’m sure there is a Betty Ford center near you, seek help!!!!!
January 12th, 2012 at 9:01 am
J Hill Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 7:53 am
Bynum with the HUGE Block last night.
Orlando, we need your 1st rd pick too if you want us to take that slacker Howard off you hands!
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*Vomit*
Typical Laker fan lol..
January 12th, 2012 at 9:02 am
B. I don’t have to leave the state, everything you can think of doing is here. My daughter is completely spoiled growing up here.
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Just had a 3 day vacation at the Disneyland and all I had to do was gas up the Camry, lol.
Imagine having to plan that trip while living in Ohio!
SD beaches, zoo, Sea World, Raiders once a year vs O-U MUST BE-HIGH-O?????
January 12th, 2012 at 9:04 am
move down to south texas in my neck of the woods. it doesnt get colder than 35, it never snows and the weather is always nice. south padre island is right around the corner so you still got a beach side.
January 12th, 2012 at 9:04 am
LOL!
Wassup Deuce!!!
Top of the mornin’ to you bruh.
January 12th, 2012 at 9:05 am
Chris in NY Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 8:53 am
“I will miss this place, because being a Raider is truly what it’s all about.”
- Hue Jackson
Time to move on. I know. I guess. But what a big, fat, unforgiveable mistake Reggie and Mark made.
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How can you move on as a Raider fan if you think it’s unforgivable? That means you cannot forgive the Raiders for the Hue affair, so you stop supporting the Raiders. But then when things improve and you start seeing the Raiders winning and actually impressing with their no-nonsense on and off-field persona under Reggie McKenzie, who you slammed repeatedly and who you think was worth less than Hue Jackson, and you come start yaying about the Raiders, getting pumped for games, that would mean you forgive the Raiders and thus end up looking like a total tool.
January 12th, 2012 at 9:06 am
J Hill Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 9:04 am
LOL!
Wassup Deuce!!!
Top of the mornin’ to you bruh.
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Yessir! Mornin’ Bro Montana
January 12th, 2012 at 9:06 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 8:59 am
what a big, fat, unforgiveable mistake Reggie and Mark made.
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Chris,
you still gonna feel that way when we have 10-12 wins and bring home the AFC West crown next season ???
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Call me when that happens.
Let me just say that anything less would be a total failure. That’s where we would easily be with Hue and a new DC next season. So if Reggie and co. can pull that off they will achieve what we would have with Hue on board.
January 12th, 2012 at 9:07 am
ESPN just ran a piece saying the Donkey DC is interviewing for the Rams job today.
So why is it Moss can’t/hasn’t interviewed for us????
Has anyone looked at this from GB’s perspective?
I wonder if a condition of GB letting McKenzie go, was him not gutting the GB staff?
January 12th, 2012 at 9:07 am
Rob Ryan- Public Relations
That right there is funny as heck!
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Oddly enough, he might be more professional than John Herrera!
by the way, I don’t see John-John on that list.
Assume he got promoted?
January 12th, 2012 at 9:10 am
I’ll say this, I read the transcript of an article yesterday from Hue where he called Al ‘Coach’ so I don’t know why people keep hating on that. I think Hue needs a little bit more respect around here, I mean he may not have lived up to the lofty expectations of some of you but dammit he was part of pulling this thing out of the gutter! Lets face it, at least he wasn’t Lane Kiffin. He TRIED to win games for us every week. That man bled Silver and Black for us. Thats it.
Lets talk about new coaching prospects, free agents wanted/needed, how to best utilize our draft picks instead of repeatedly kicking the guy who just got fired already.
January 12th, 2012 at 9:10 am
STR,
I like Texas. My son lives near Houston in Kingwood. Last Summer I took him through Colorado, Utah, Arizona Nevada and SoCal on a vacation. After that trip, his new goal in life is to live in the Solana Beach-San Diego area, or to move to Vegas….
January 12th, 2012 at 9:10 am
You got a point there, Rockstar!
January 12th, 2012 at 9:10 am
guess ill be out this mofo.
SPURS BABY!
SILVER AND BLACK THROUGH AND THROUGH.
RAIDER FAHQIN NATION
R.I.P. Al Davis
peace brothers
January 12th, 2012 at 9:11 am
Oddly enough, he might be more professional than John Herrera!
by the way, I don’t see John-John on that list.
Assume he got promoted?
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Cut.
January 12th, 2012 at 9:12 am
Back to the slanderous Silver article.
we all know Al could be cantankerous or harsh at times and spoke his mind.
I would bet he has told everyone to get the Fug outta here many times including Amy Trask, John Herrera, Tom Cable, Hue Jackson, the janitor, the water boy.
Al was loyal to his people and probably felt like he could communicate to them the way he wanted to without hurting anyone’s feelings.
January 12th, 2012 at 9:14 am
So why is it Moss can’t/hasn’t interviewed for us????
Has anyone looked at this from GB’s perspective?
I wonder if a condition of GB letting McKenzie go, was him not gutting the GB staff?
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Jhill,
my buddy in Cali just sent me a text that read “Raiders are rumored to be going after 4 GB Packer coaches”
Any of you guys heard that ???
January 12th, 2012 at 9:14 am
Dakota, Morilla, & STR,
I know what you are saying since I lived in Ohio, KY, stayed in Chi & NY.
The weather is great, but I’m trying to build myself financially. I can do so much with an extra 1000-1500 im savings every month.
I can always enjoy the weather later (when I’m in my 40’s or 50s).
I like worm weather and surfing, but I do love money more!
January 12th, 2012 at 9:15 am
i remember you saying your son lived around the houston area. did he get any of that rain that hit hard and flooded a few days ago?
man i live on the tip of texas where the us/mexico border is 15 20 minutes away. ever seen border wars? there always in mcallen,tx which is 30 min east of me.
thats a sweet vacation Dakota, ive only been out of texas once in my life. garaunteed the next time i leave texas will be to see our Raiders play.
January 12th, 2012 at 9:15 am
530.Dakota Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 8:57 am
Raider O,
I am starting to get tired of the winters around here. Yesterday, the wind chill was so bad, my nut hair froze just walking to my car and then shattered when I jumped in my Tahoe. I doubt that happens in San Diego.
Can you deal with Schyt like that?
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Need to stop Playing Big Foot and put some clothes on!
January 12th, 2012 at 9:15 am
Know what I love?? Yesterday some coworkers were p!ssing and moaning about the SteAlers (yeah I meant to spell it that way ~ reference the Immaculate DE-ception) and when they were all done I spoke up and said “Oh yeah? Well, its a great day to be a RAIDER!!”
I’m absolutely PUMPED about change and the ‘Return To Glory’ for the Silver & Black!!
January 12th, 2012 at 9:16 am
550.Silverandblack666 Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 9:12 am
Back to the slanderous Silver article.
we all know Al could be cantankerous or harsh at times and spoke his mind.
I would bet he has told everyone to get the Fug outta here many times including Amy Trask, John Herrera, Tom Cable, Hue Jackson, the janitor, the water boy.
Al was loyal to his people and probably felt like he could communicate to them the way he wanted to without hurting anyone’s feelings.
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As a father of two boys, never in my wildest times of anger would I deliberately call my son into a room, and then mock him in the presence of others. Even if my son was a grown man.
All Davis was an azzhole.
January 12th, 2012 at 9:17 am
dakota hating on al davis again… what else is new,,,
January 12th, 2012 at 9:17 am
exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 9:15 am
530.Dakota Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 8:57 am
Raider O,
I am starting to get tired of the winters around here. Yesterday, the wind chill was so bad, my nut hair froze just walking to my car and then shattered when I jumped in my Tahoe. I doubt that happens in San Diego.
Can you deal with Schyt like that?
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Need to stop Playing Big Foot and put some clothes on!
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Great comment and FUNNY!!!!!
January 12th, 2012 at 9:17 am
J,
LMAO.
Those things cost money.
You guys love fun, and I love money.
MONEY!!!! I love it.
January 12th, 2012 at 9:18 am
554.exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 9:15 am
Need to stop Playing Big Foot and put some clothes on!
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I had my Raider underwear on! Should have known Raider underwear would not be rated to 10 below!
January 12th, 2012 at 9:18 am
how in the hell can i get a six-pack of bud light with the raider emblem on it?
the only one they sell in texas has the, you guessed it, a texan symbol.
January 12th, 2012 at 9:19 am
LMAO at Ex.
January 12th, 2012 at 9:19 am
The GB coaching staff is extremely inexperienced, Philbin does not call plays, neither do Moss and Perry.
Let’s look at some other candidates who have ties to the SF-GB coaching tree where Mike McCarthy comes from, they coul earn a recommenadation from him and Reggie McKenzie may listen.
How about Philly OC, Marty Mornhinweg?.
Spent some time on GB in 1995-96, McKenzie was also there, then went to SF for a few years as OC where I think McCarthy worked for him.
He didn’t do well in 2 season as HC in Detroit, but the guys is a definitley a bright offensive mind with some ties to McKenzie and the GB organization, a plus for McKenzie, or so it would seem.
I would not mind Morty, definitely a better candidate than anyone on the GB staff.
January 12th, 2012 at 9:19 am
I think I found out where Silver lives and I am going to confront him about this article.
January 12th, 2012 at 9:20 am
I haven’t heard any of that RRS.
Then again, I haven’t been looking for any of that either.
I have Schefter and Jerry on twitter and the semi pro’s here for breaking Raiders news.
January 12th, 2012 at 9:20 am
you goto admit dakota… our new owner does look like a tommy boy,,
January 12th, 2012 at 9:21 am
566.ghostraiders Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 9:20 am
you goto admit dakota… our new owner does look like a tommy boy,,
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I don’t care what he looks like, as long as he lets the GM do his job and doesn’t get in the way of winning.
January 12th, 2012 at 9:22 am
J Hill Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 9:07 am
ESPN just ran a piece saying the Donkey DC is interviewing for the Rams job today.
So why is it Moss can’t/hasn’t interviewed for us????
Has anyone looked at this from GB’s perspective?
I wonder if a condition of GB letting McKenzie go, was him not gutting the GB staff?
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He may have asked GB for permission and been told “Yes, you can interview Moss, but only AFTER our season is finished.”
January 12th, 2012 at 9:23 am
Had a couple issues with Hue’s character:
too brash basically, guaranteeing playoffs: outwardly more humble as season went on
saying he thought he should have a hand in picking gm: shouldn’t have said it but realized in this business Gm brings in his own guy so was concerned about his job
blaming last game loss on the players: coach should always say what he should have done better says he regrets not showering/cooling down b4 addressing media like he normally does
comments that he lost the lockerroom concerned me the most: Seymours comments make me believe they had no validity
Here’s why I like Hue:
passionate: you rather have an emotionless guy like Norv?
loved the Raiders: did those tears look fake?
true to Raider philosophy: deep ball, physical, size/speed
good playcaller: forced the run even with the weapons in the passing game, exploited the pass with box stacked
gutsy playcaller: love the 4th down and gadget plays
In conclusion we didn’t make the playoffs but are CP DHB Ford and Moore as good as Eli Manningham Nicks & Cruz (barely got in) or even Rivers Floyd VJax & Gates yet? Bush was our RB for 10 games and when was the last time he had a 100 yard game? Our front 7 allowed the most yards /carry, our 2nd DB was either a rookie or an unsigned player, our FS for most the year was an unsigned player, and our DC coached for the UFL the previous year. How good a head coach was Belichek or even Gruden when he first started?
I’m sad to see him go but hopefully it turns out to be the right decision and regardless I’m in it for life
January 12th, 2012 at 9:23 am
You guys love fun, and I love money.
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You shouldn’t “LOVE” money, O.
I understand that $ is a necessary evil so I understand the concept of building the war chest.
I am in my 40s by the way, so according to your plan, I’m right where I need to be, lol.
January 12th, 2012 at 9:25 am
we have a shlub as a owner now..im glad we have mckenzie…but i think al davis was trying to groom his son to take over the raiders and the guy just didnt have what it took… i think al should have realized this,, but you cant blame him for trying..
January 12th, 2012 at 9:25 am
When I lived in Mpls, I had a Ridgeline Eddie Bauer Parka good for 70 below. Came in hand when I went to South Dakota in Jan-Feb. Used to stay Dtntown Rapid City at the Alex Johnson. CEO of company had heart palpitations when I put it on my expense report.
January 12th, 2012 at 9:26 am
I think I found out where Silver lives and I am going to confront him about this article.
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Where are you going to get the horse head from? (Godfather)
January 12th, 2012 at 9:26 am
J Hill Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 9:07 am
ESPN just ran a piece saying the Donkey DC is interviewing for the Rams job today.
So why is it Moss can’t/hasn’t interviewed for us????
Has anyone looked at this from GB’s perspective?
I wonder if a condition of GB letting McKenzie go, was him not gutting the GB staff?
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The Rams requested permission from the Broncos to interview the guy last week, and Elway was like, sure, why not, I am sure the Steelers are going to finish off Teblow for me anyhow!
Ooooops.
January 12th, 2012 at 9:26 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 9:19 am
I think I found out where Silver lives and I am going to confront him about this article.
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Don’t. It’s called “stalking,” and they can throw in jail for it.
January 12th, 2012 at 9:27 am
Mark Davis looks like Captain Kangaroo.
January 12th, 2012 at 9:27 am
One of the best things Mark Jr said is “I know what I don’t know”.
I like this guy.
And yeah, I agree that he seems like the type I’d run into behind some building while I was sneaking out to smoke my blount. He’d be there smoking his too, Chris, lol.
January 12th, 2012 at 9:27 am
Now if you wanna go outside the box, how about Stanford’s David Shaw?.
He may be a little green with just 1 season as HC at any level, ok extremely green, but he was a QB coach in the NFL for several years in Philly, Oakland and Baltimore and probably learned a lot of stuff from Gruden and Harbaugh.
This kid might not be available in a couple of years.
January 12th, 2012 at 9:30 am
MistaBrown Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 8:34 am
New owner of the Jags endearing himself to the fans.
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Jacksonville has a new NFL owner and a new head coach. But now it also has new PR problems.
Not only was the hire of coach Mike Mularkey panned by critics Wednesday, Jaguars owner Shahid Khan is in serious damage control mode after his comments about what makes a fan of his team.
Khan explained just what it takes to be a Jaguars fan, in his opinion: “I think I can clarify at this point for me a fan is somebody who is a season ticket holder fan for the Jaguars,” said the new owner. “We want to hear from people, we want a huge amount of constructive feedback. We need input, but we need that from fans who are season ticket holders.”
So the implication is if you’re down on your luck and can’t afford season tickets in a state hit hard by the recession, you’re not a true fan.
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How long before this Khan guy (the apparently gaffe-prone new Jags owner) joins Dan Snyder and Mike Brown as the owners the NFL would most like to see go away?
January 12th, 2012 at 9:30 am
“Don’t. It’s called “stalking,” and they can throw in jail for it.”
Not one bit afraid of going to jail!
January 12th, 2012 at 9:30 am
Don’t. It’s called “stalking,” and they can throw in jail for it.
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666 likes to think of it as ‘obsessive shadowing’
January 12th, 2012 at 9:32 am
More posturing by Hue this morning..He was on the Herd and 95.7 this morning talking about how great his opportunity was, how he had no hard feelings and yada yada yada..This guy IS really a snakeoil salesman. He has clearly toned it down since the yahoo story after realizing if he keeps it up he will not be getting any job interviews any time soon.
I’ve grown tired of his act and I am glad I will never get to experience it ever again.
January 12th, 2012 at 9:32 am
572.exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 9:25 am
When I lived in Mpls, I had a Ridgeline Eddie Bauer Parka good for 70 below. Came in hand when I went to South Dakota in Jan-Feb. Used to stay Dtntown Rapid City at the Alex Johnson. CEO of company had heart palpitations when I put it on my expense report.
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Lol, nice.
I just got a Northface winter coat for Christmas. Yesterday, I looked at the outdoor thermometer and it said 24 degrees, so I left the coat in the closet and walked outside with just a suit jacket on…..didn’t realize the wind chill was at nut hair freezing levels!
January 12th, 2012 at 9:33 am
549.Silverandblack666 Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 9:12 am
Al was loyal to his people and probably felt like he could communicate to them the way he wanted to without hurting anyone’s feelings.
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Thanks Ophra. Now STFU!
January 12th, 2012 at 9:33 am
J Hill Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 9:23 am
You guys love fun, and I love money.
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You shouldn’t “LOVE” money, O.
I understand that $ is a necessary evil so I understand the concept of building the war chest.
I am in my 40s by the way, so according to your plan, I’m right where I need to be, lol.
J,
I love to make money, save money, and manage money. I don’t consider money a necessary evil.
January 12th, 2012 at 9:33 am
This stuff gets taken out of context way too much. You know what Shad just bought the team with the WORST attendence in the NFL. Jags games make our stadium during the Jamarcus Russell era look like Dallas stadium during a Justin Beiber concert. I think as a fan if you want feedback to be heard by your team you should pony up and buy some tickets, otherwise you obviously aren’t showing the committment to warrant input.
January 12th, 2012 at 9:34 am
How about Philly OC, Marty Mornhinweg?
how about Stanford’s David Shaw?
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Marley,
nice work. keep’em coming!
January 12th, 2012 at 9:35 am
debo…making friends again ..huh??..lol
January 12th, 2012 at 9:36 am
I’ve grown tired of his act and I am glad I will never get to experience it ever again.
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Oh stop. Have you ever been fired from a job. Bet you, you said some sh1t you didn’t mean about the place in the days after when you were still pissed off. Your tone changes after you have had time to relax and take emotion out of it. Stop acting like Hue Jackson isn’t a human being for gods sakes.
January 12th, 2012 at 9:36 am
J,
All that matters is that and your family are happy.
January 12th, 2012 at 9:36 am
575.exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 9:27 am
Mark Davis looks like Captain Kangaroo.
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YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEWWWW!~ We have a winner!
January 12th, 2012 at 9:37 am
Hue states he never was acting GM….yet I recall him making statements like “That’s why “I” brought him (Carson & Curry) over here”….his act is stale.
He is trying to absolve himself from giving up the 1 round pics for Carson now…not happening homes…get over it.
January 12th, 2012 at 9:37 am
RadierDebbie in here already pushing her agenda and how we should all feel sorry for JaMarcus Russell and its Cable’s fault he did not succeed in the NFL.
Get a new soap box derelict we are all sick of your banter!
January 12th, 2012 at 9:37 am
Too bad this changeover didn’t happen last season. We would have Jim Harbaugh as our HC right now.
January 12th, 2012 at 9:38 am
“Bcz24 Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 9:30 am
Don’t. It’s called “stalking,” and they can throw in jail for it.
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666 likes to think of it as ‘obsessive shadowing’”
Nice perspective Bcz24
its all how you look at it I guess.
January 12th, 2012 at 9:38 am
i hope this doesnt happen but i got a bad feeling it will…. we will be longing for the days that we had hue running our offense.. not our defense but our offense..
January 12th, 2012 at 9:39 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 9:34 am
How about Philly OC, Marty Mornhinweg?
how about Stanford’s David Shaw?
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Mornhinweg’s tenure in Detroit was marked by repeated nervous breakdowns. The guy is a good at X’s and O’s and would be a good OC candidate, but he is just not a leader.
Shaw’s a little too green. He’s only been an HC at Stanford for one (very successful) season, and never been an OC at the pro level.
January 12th, 2012 at 9:39 am
No more “Coach Davis” references, now it’s Al Davis.
January 12th, 2012 at 9:39 am
Jim wanted a crazy salary, and he was unproven as a HC.
January 12th, 2012 at 9:40 am
Watch for Sanjay Lal to be promoted to OC.
January 12th, 2012 at 9:41 am
All I know is theres gonna be a LOT of pressure on the next coach. It doesnt seem a good place to go for a rookie…
Why are we not hearing of and “seasoned” coaches coming in?
January 12th, 2012 at 9:42 am
Hue was/ is Fake.
Coach Davis, crying after the Texans game, etc…
Than has the nerve to talk about not having the power to select his staff.
Hue,
You are a weak man!
January 12th, 2012 at 9:42 am
Dakota Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 9:40 am
Watch for Sanjay Lal to be promoted to OC.
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Lal may or may not even be the WR coach if the new HC brings in his own staff. He should be kept, as he’s done awesome work with DHB, Moore and Ford.
January 12th, 2012 at 9:42 am
Did Mark read his statement at the beginning of the presser off of silver paper?
Maybe my eyes were tired.
January 12th, 2012 at 9:43 am
rookie head coach comming again… not good… i think moss would get our defense playing better though
January 12th, 2012 at 9:43 am
ElkGRaider Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 9:41 am
All I know is theres gonna be a LOT of pressure on the next coach. It doesnt seem a good place to go for a rookie…
Why are we not hearing of “seasoned” coaches coming in?
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Aside from Cowher and (possibly) Fisher, they’re mediocre retreads. I’d rather go with someone fresh, someone ready to take that next step.
January 12th, 2012 at 9:44 am
Owner: M Davis
GM: R McKenzie
HC: W Moss
OC: A Saunders
DC: D Perry
DL: Waufle ( if we stay with the 4-3)
OL: same and keep Wiz too
DBs: R Woodson
That will make me happy.
January 12th, 2012 at 9:45 am
yea.. that show after the houston game did look fake.. i must admit… hue needs to take acting lessons..
January 12th, 2012 at 9:45 am
I think as a fan if you want feedback to be heard by your team you should pony up and buy some tickets, otherwise you obviously aren’t showing the committment to warrant input.
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Its not just the money. Its dedicating a whole day (and sometimes the next day) to being at the stadium. Live near Sac so Im leaving at 7…tailgating…and taking 3 hours to get home with traffic. Not something I want to do for every home game.
Plus I spent a WHOLE lot of money on a Sharp 60 inch with surround…
January 12th, 2012 at 9:46 am
Some of you guys sound like butthurt exboyfriends spouting of trash about your ex-chick. Let it go already.
January 12th, 2012 at 9:47 am
Elk, do you expect to have input in what the Raiders do?
January 12th, 2012 at 9:47 am
raider o.. im pretty sure if we get moss as our hc were going with the 3-4.. look him up on youtube talking up the 3-4,, moss really breaks it down..
January 12th, 2012 at 9:47 am
I think we should keep Saunders.
I like Vertical offense, and I don’t want to go back to Gruden’s offense.
January 12th, 2012 at 9:48 am
Todd Bowles better not get hired. If this is a Rooney interview, why bother bringing him in when you can interview Rod Woodson.
If he gets hired, I will start calling for Reggie’s head immediately and burn my season tickets if I had any.
Might as well have kept Hue if this guy steps in.
January 12th, 2012 at 9:50 am
raider o.. the entire coaching staff is gone brother.. their all gone.. rest assured.. i hope your right.. but i expect to see all new faces next season as far as coaching staff goes..
January 12th, 2012 at 9:50 am
Ghost,
I forgot about that. You are right.
I don’t think Waufle is a 3-4 guy, so he is not a good fit with Moss & Perry.
January 12th, 2012 at 9:50 am
Mornhinweg’s tenure in Detroit was marked by repeated nervous breakdowns. The guy is a good at X’s and O’s and would be a good OC candidate, but he is just not a leader.
Shaw’s a little too green. He’s only been an HC at Stanford for one (very successful) season, and never been an OC at the pro level.
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On Marty.
Nervous breakdowns?.
Where did you get that? Bill Belichick wasn’t considered a leader after Cleveland either, no people skills.
Marty’s resume is way better than any GB assistant and as good as anyone in the League and he’s been calling plays since 06 for Philly.
There’s a rumor that Indy’s new GM Grigson who comes from Philly would be interested in bringing Marty along, if they decide to fire Jim Caldwell, not a sure thing so far.
On David Shaw.
At least been in charge of somethin and succeeded, can’t say that about the GB assistants.
I would gladly take Morninhweg or David Shaw over the GB assistants, as of now.
January 12th, 2012 at 9:51 am
Boss01 Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 9:48 am
Todd Bowles better not get hired. If this is a Rooney interview, why bother bringing him in when you can interview Rod Woodson.
If he gets hired, I will start calling for Reggie’s head immediately and burn my season tickets if I had any.
Might as well have kept Hue if this guy steps in.
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A well-regarded assistant, who’s been the finalist for at least one other HC job, and who just went 2-1 as an interim coach (with the sole loss by three points in Foxboro in December).
Yes, I certainly see where his hiring would justify a declaration of war.
January 12th, 2012 at 9:51 am
592.Silverandblack666 Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 9:37 am
RadierDebbie in here already pushing her agenda and how we should all feel sorry for JaMarcus Russell and its Cable’s fault he did not succeed in the NFL.
Get a new soap box derelict we are all sick of your banter!
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Speaking of, two spots I’d like to JR in next year: The Jets or the Falcons. The Jets had interest before the bogus Vicks 44 charges that were eventually laughed out of court. Maybe now that they’ve finally realized Sanchez sucks, they’ll revisit JR. Atlanta is probably even more of a longshot, but it’s very clear to me Matt Ryan is not the guy to take advantage of arguably the best supporting cast in football. That guy has to wind up to throw bubble screens. JR goes to the Pro Bowl with that group.
January 12th, 2012 at 9:52 am
I want to keep Saunders too.
BUT McKenzie said the HC has full power to hire and fire his staff.
Therefore, say Winston Moss for example, or Todd Bowles, would have to see a great connection to Palmer with Saunders in order to retain him I would say.
January 12th, 2012 at 9:53 am
Ghost,
We need to keep Saunders IMO.
Our offense wasn’t the problem last year, and it was the strength of our team. I hate to see all that progress go to waste, and start from scratch.
January 12th, 2012 at 9:53 am
610.bcz24 Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 9:47 am
Elk, do you expect to have input in what the Raiders do?
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WTF are you talking about?
January 12th, 2012 at 9:53 am
1332.Dakota Says:
January 10th, 2012 at 10:52 pm
2romes, poor thing, are you really that blind? You think hue took the job as oc to save Tom cable? You don’t thing hue was in davis’ ear at every opportunity trying to get cables job?
Grow up
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Days lates. Dakota, That is all you got on Hue. whispering in Davis’s ear as being disruptive. very, very weak arguement. I should grow up because you bring speculation in the equation?? I will leave it at that.
As I have posted in the past, I did not believe Cable should have been fire when he did. I though if Cable and Hue had one more year together this team would have been better off.
January 12th, 2012 at 9:54 am
Marley, smoke a joint.
Reggie’s got this.
Just Win Baby.
January 12th, 2012 at 9:55 am
618,,,,lmao.. debo. You say the funniest things.
January 12th, 2012 at 9:55 am
Bob Marley Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 9:50 am
Mornhinweg’s tenure in Detroit was marked by repeated nervous breakdowns. The guy is a good at X’s and O’s and would be a good OC candidate, but he is just not a leader.
Shaw’s a little too green. He’s only been an HC at Stanford for one (very successful) season, and never been an OC at the pro level.
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On Marty.
Nervous breakdowns?.
Where did you get that? Bill Belichick wasn’t considered a leader after Cleveland either, no people skills.
Marty’s resume is way better than any GB assistant and as good as anyone in the League and he’s been calling plays since 06 for Philly.
There’s a rumor that Indy’s new GM Grigson who comes from Philly would be interested in bringing Marty along, if they decide to fire Jim Caldwell, not a sure thing so far.
On David Shaw.
At least been in charge of somethin and succeeded, can’t say that about the GB assistants.
I would gladly take Morninhweg or David Shaw over the GB assistants, as of now.
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On Morhninweg: It was widely reported in the sports news at the time. He also had a 5-27 record. Again, he’s a good coordinator, but any HC reign would be Norv Turner 2.0, at best.
Shaw’s had one season coaching Harbaugh’s awesome team. Lots of college guys replacing a legend will have a great first season or two, but then the wheels come off.
Now I’m not saying this will happen to Shaw, but the jury is still out on his HC ability.
January 12th, 2012 at 9:56 am
“610.bcz24 Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 9:47 am
Elk, do you expect to have input in what the Raiders do?”
LMAO that’s funny!
January 12th, 2012 at 9:56 am
2Romes,
I can’t help it if you can’t see reality.
January 12th, 2012 at 9:56 am
“618,,,,lmao.. debo. You say the funniest things.”
I don’t know weather or not to take him seriously?
January 12th, 2012 at 9:56 am
SeyGlenn666Bush, no matter what alias you are using you love to speak for the entire blog dont you? Gives you a false sense of power or what ?
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Silverandblack666 Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 9:37 am
Get a new soap box derelict we are all sick of your banter!
January 12th, 2012 at 9:57 am
Does Romo want to coach?…I hope Reggie gives him a look so he can step in as LB coach and teach Slowlando (If he isnt shown the door) and the rest of the LB’s how to be “Boar Hunters”.
I also like his comments about the 49r’s D sending Colston and Sproles to the Hospital on stretchers.
He clearly gets it and he isnt roided out anymore either.
January 12th, 2012 at 9:58 am
raider o… did you read that yahoo article about mark being humiliated in front of raiders coaches.. im sure al saunders saw this stuff as well,, mark and regiie will be gutting the joint..imo.. and that includes players and coaches..
January 12th, 2012 at 10:00 am
Raider O,
Didn’t you get pissed when Al wouldn’t let the HC pick his own staff? Now we should make the new HC keep Saunders?
I say just let the HC make the call.
January 12th, 2012 at 10:00 am
666..
just better to ignore him.. anyone who can honestly still defend jablubber russell should be ignored..
January 12th, 2012 at 10:01 am
Dakotex can’t help you.
January 12th, 2012 at 10:02 am
RaiderDebo Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 9:51 am
592.Silverandblack666 Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 9:37 am
RadierDebbie in here already pushing her agenda and how we should all feel sorry for JaMarcus Russell and its Cable’s fault he did not succeed in the NFL.
Get a new soap box derelict we are all sick of your banter!
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Speaking of, two spots I’d like to JR in next year: The Jets or the Falcons. The Jets had interest before the bogus Vicks 44 charges that were eventually laughed out of court. Maybe now that they’ve finally realized Sanchez sucks, they’ll revisit JR. Atlanta is probably even more of a longshot, but it’s very clear to me Matt Ryan is not the guy to take advantage of arguably the best supporting cast in football. That guy has to wind up to throw bubble screens. JR goes to the Pro Bowl with that group.
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I can’t believe we’re still talking about JaSizzurp. He won’t be in any NFL camp next year. Did you even read the SI piece? He came off as a whiny little (well, not LITTLE, but you know what I mean) lazybones diva.
“Whaaaaah! I had to get up at 6:30AM every morning! Whaaaah!”
Um, you mean like EVERY OTHER NFL quarterback???
The only way he gets back into the NFL is to sign with a CFL or UFL team and put some decent numbers, and he considers that beneath him (which means the weight must be crushing the wind right out of those poor leagues).
Enough about #2. This is a blog to discuss CURRENT NFL players, CURRENT NFL coaches, or past Raider greats. Russell fits none of those categories.
January 12th, 2012 at 10:03 am
Just read a bleacher report title saying “Jackson out, Gruden headed to raider facility”
Pfft…
Bleacer report… groan
January 12th, 2012 at 10:03 am
dakota..
raider o.. just wants to win next season.. as i do.. getting a new o coordinator will take another losing season or two.. but i suppose your willing to wait. as long as al is gone.. i hope saunders would stay too.. but i do expect raisers to suck ass next season.
January 12th, 2012 at 10:04 am
DC – Del Rio
LB – Romo
DB – Perry
Would be a good basis for a defensive rejuvenation!!
Git-R-Dun, Reggie!!
January 12th, 2012 at 10:04 am
Ghost,
No bro. What? Do you have a link?
January 12th, 2012 at 10:07 am
Dakota,
No. I don’t want to force the OC on the new HC like Al did in the past, but I do hope the new HC would see the value in keeping Saunders.
I don’t want to rebuild the entire team, and not be able to compete for the west. This team is ready to win now, but it needs a better coaching staff (HC & DC).
January 12th, 2012 at 10:07 am
here it is raider o..
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ms-silver_oakland_raiders_hue_jackson_mark_davis_011112
January 12th, 2012 at 10:08 am
610.bcz24 Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 9:47 am
Elk, do you expect to have input in what the Raiders do?
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Oh…I get it. Your dumb@ss thinks because you go to 5 more games a year you get this mythical power that allows influence on Raider day to day operations.
Well dumb@ss…
You dont. Ive had season tickets before.
I know…feels like finding out Santas fake all over again…
January 12th, 2012 at 10:11 am
638.ghostraiders Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 10:03 am
dakota..
raider o.. just wants to win next season.. as i do.. getting a new o coordinator will take another losing season or two.. but i suppose your willing to wait. as long as al is gone.. i hope saunders would stay too.. but i do expect raisers to suck ass next season.
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Saunders wasn’t here in 2010, and the offense did just fine, and the offense did pretty well once it was changed over to the Jackson-Saunders playbook in 2011. The common denominator was Jackson and he is gone, so I don’t see the need to keep Saunders. Saunders would just want to shed Jackson’s stuff and run that giant playbook of his, so it would be like starting over anyhow.
I think with Palmer, McFadden and co, and OC is going to have success….well, probably not Tom Cable, but any decent OC will be fine.
January 12th, 2012 at 10:11 am
Thx Ghost.
January 12th, 2012 at 10:12 am
I’m still amazed that yahoo approved the posting of that Silver article. Talk about some of the slimiest sh!t I’ve ever read. Articles like that get people hurt. Dude better seriously watch his back. If Old man Al were still alive, a hit might be put on his a$$…real sh!t. It’s one thing to participate in a little irresponsible journalism to help make a bigger name for yourself; but it’s a completely different thing to share way back when OFF THE RECORD comments like that in an attempt to back up an opinion you recently formulated. What a sucka….
January 12th, 2012 at 10:15 am
Not one bit afraid of going to jail!
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SHEEEEIIIIDDDDD!!!!!
I am!
Phuugggg jail mayne!
That AIN’T the place to be.
Ask the animals at the zoo.
January 12th, 2012 at 10:17 am
Brownstians your a low life backwoods idiot who barely writes at the 3rd grade level.
Your opinions are off base and you can barely communicate them because of your lack of intelligence.
No one really cares what you have to say or even bothers to read your babbling retarded opinions.
Its a shame your mother didn’t believe in abortion!
January 12th, 2012 at 10:17 am
Ghost,
Interesting article.
I didn’t know that.
January 12th, 2012 at 10:18 am
Spoken like a true nazi liberal.
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Silverandblack666 Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 10:17 am
Its a shame your mother didn’t believe in abortion!
January 12th, 2012 at 10:18 am
“I’m still amazed that yahoo approved the posting of that Silver article. Talk about some of the slimiest sh!t I’ve ever read. Articles like that get people hurt. Dude better seriously watch his back.”
I agree 100% and I am still very angry about it.
How irresponsible is Yahoo for letting a slanderous article like that get published who oversees these douche bag writers?
January 12th, 2012 at 10:19 am
J,
I heard that.
Jail is not for me. I like good food and clean places. I also love sex with females.
January 12th, 2012 at 10:19 am
Yesterday, I looked at the outdoor thermometer and it said 24 degrees, so I left the coat in the closet and walked outside with just a suit jacket on…
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You white dudes crack me up mayne!
It was phhuugggiinn cold as a mutha the other night at Disneland. Me and the fam scramblin for coats, shiverin and carryin on, right …
Well gawd damn me if it isn’t a bunch of y’all in the damn pool.
My 6 year old said, and I quote “What’s wrong with them?”, lol.
January 12th, 2012 at 10:20 am
I’ll know things are really changing in Oakland once some time passes and I don’t see any typical pointless Herrera denials over various new reports during this coaching search.
January 12th, 2012 at 10:20 am
There you go again speaking for the entire blog. Are you trying to compensate for a lack of something huh?
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Silverandblack666 Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 10:17 am
No one really cares what you have to say or even bothers to read your babbling retarded opinions.
January 12th, 2012 at 10:21 am
“Spoken like a true nazi liberal.”
No spoken like a person who understands the need to make a better society by not allowing inbreed children to be born into the world.
I would bet that most in here agree so shut up and go back to watching Jerry Springer and drinking your morning Budweiser!
January 12th, 2012 at 10:21 am
some here would rather slice up the Raiders because of the dislike of a coach rather than have them assemble their best chance of winner the next year.
January 12th, 2012 at 10:21 am
653.J Hill Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 10:19 am
Yesterday, I looked at the outdoor thermometer and it said 24 degrees, so I left the coat in the closet and walked outside with just a suit jacket on…
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You white dudes crack me up mayne!
It was phhuugggiinn cold as a mutha the other night at Disneland. Me and the fam scramblin for coats, shiverin and carryin on, right …
Well gawd damn me if it isn’t a bunch of y’all in the damn pool.
My 6 year old said, and I quote “What’s wrong with them?”, lol.
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lol
January 12th, 2012 at 10:22 am
I don’t consider money a necessary evil.
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I do.
I’m a bigger humanitarian now a days, a guess.
The pie is big enough for everyone to eat.
Why the hell do we need to “own” stuff?
Take what you need and move the F on.
January 12th, 2012 at 10:23 am
LMAO J.
White people are used to cold weather. Why do you think they are white?
January 12th, 2012 at 10:24 am
“There you go again speaking for the entire blog. Are you trying to compensate for a lack of something huh?”
Pretty easy to do when dealing with the likes of you. Your so mentally and emotionally weak that OakGlenn owns you.
You spend your every waking hour consumed with what he says on this blog. Your so paranoid that you think everyone here is oakglenn and is after you.
Must be a very depressing and sad life to lead.
January 12th, 2012 at 10:25 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 10:18 am
“I’m still amazed that yahoo approved the posting of that Silver article. Talk about some of the slimiest sh!t I’ve ever read. Articles like that get people hurt. Dude better seriously watch his back.”
I agree 100% and I am still very angry about it.
How irresponsible is Yahoo for letting a slanderous article like that get published who oversees these douche bag writers?
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And like someone stated earlier; what the F#ck was the point of the article? It’s not like Mark said I’m going to assume my dad’s role and be everything from CEO to GM to Financial Controller to Lord of the Sith, etc… Dude knows he isn’t capable of running the football side and he’s attempting to get that structure in place so the franchise is in it’s best possible position for the future. What else do they want him to do? Had no problem with Silver’s Hue article the day before. Obviously that one was bias too, but news is news, but that piece of crap right there was garbage and dude seriously needs to get hurt for that. Imagine the pain he’s causing when Al’s family reads that. F’n clown. F#ck Yahoo
January 12th, 2012 at 10:26 am
You can be a humanitarian and still love money.
Think of all the humans ( and animals) you can save and help, if you are wealthy.
January 12th, 2012 at 10:27 am
Watch for Sanjay Lal to be promoted to OC.
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What an amazing turnaround for this guy, eh?
From the standard to punchline to having BY FAR the most productive unit on the team.
Or is it simply coaches are as good as the talent they have to work with?
I’ll go with the latter!
Which is why I KNOW our offense will be top 5 next year if all our weapons are healthy.
January 12th, 2012 at 10:28 am
Jags games make our stadium during the Jamarcus Russell era look like Dallas stadium during a Justin Beiber concert.
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LOL!
nicely done, BCZ
January 12th, 2012 at 10:28 am
657.2romes Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 10:21 am
some here would rather slice up the Raiders because of the dislike of a coach rather than have them assemble their best chance of winner the next year.
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Change is painful 2Romes. The old way of doing things is gone. No more senseless throwing together of coaching staffs. No more spaghetti at the wall and see if it works stuff in Oakland.
We now have a GM who has a certain philosophy, and he is going to hire a HC who shares that philosophy, and that HC is going to find his generals to assist him in coaching, and then together, they are all going to find the players that fit that philosophy and will work within their system.
Keeping coaches who do not fit with others is the old way of doing business.
This isn’t slicing up the Raiders, this is taking out the trash and building something that is cohesive and affective. Give it a chance. The old way you are holding onto certainly hasn’t worked for about a quarter century, so I like the chances that the new way will succeed.
January 12th, 2012 at 10:29 am
666
January 12th, 2012 at 10:29 am
#315 and #316
#316 No, I am not a “birther”? What a stupid conclusion you drew from my comments about LA. Are you a demagogue?
315–all stadiums have idiots attending in this day and age, a sign of our deteriorating society, where civility has gone out the window. I am glad my kids are grown and feel sorry for parents who are today trying to raise their children to be productive and civil citizens. However, that being said, do you understand just how bad it was when the Raiders were in LA? My brother continued to follow the Raiders when they moved. For years, several times a year, he flew down Sat. night from the Bay Area to LA to watch them. Even he had to give it up it grew so bad. He feared for his wife, who accompanied him most of the time. Then, he feared for himself, and he was a guy who could take care of himself.
My son is a statistician who specializes in demography. He is hired by firms to scout out cities and neighborhoods in cities in which they might wish to locate. He must look at things like crime stats–I don’t mean the kind of stats you can look up on Wiki. I mean he has to get down in the weeds to look at things, even individual streets. His conclusion: LA is doomed. The larger metro area is deteriorating as well.
This is not to say that even Oakland is the place for a modern football franchise to settle. However, Mark Davis is a CA kid. He’ll either stay here or go to LA because he isn’t thinking outside the box. If he were really smart with an eye for the future, he would, as a businessman, take his franchise either out of state or maybe to the upper Central Valley of CA.
I am not advocating this as it would move the Raiders away from me, but it would be a smart move. Mark is not a businessman, however, and I get the sense he has no children of his own. (Does anyone know?) I point that out because when one has kids, one thinks differently about one’s assets. You want to pass things along to your children and you want what you pass along to be in good order. If he had kids, maybe he’d think more along the lines of moving to another state with his franchise. He’s what, 48? He’s not old, but certainly he’s not young either. 10 or 20 or 30 years down the road in CA, Oakland or LA or anywhere here doesn’t look good for business.
There was a time “Go west, young man,” made sense. No longer. If you are at least 30, don’t expect it to “get better” in your life time.
January 12th, 2012 at 10:30 am
Keep talking to yourself. Nobody else is listening. The entire blog thinks your a tool. You embarrass yourself every time you hit the keyboard.
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Silverandblack666 Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 10:29 am
666
January 12th, 2012 at 10:34 am
Oh…I get it. Your dumb@ss thinks because you go to 5 more games a year you get this mythical power that allows influence on Raider day to day operations.
Well dumb@ss…
You dont. Ive had season tickets before.
I know…feels like finding out Santas fake all over again…
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Thank you, this was EXACTLY the point I just made regarding what Shad Khan the new Jags owner said. MAYBE you should know the opinion of a poster before you insult him.
January 12th, 2012 at 10:35 am
“And like someone stated earlier; what the F#ck was the point of the article? It’s not like Mark said I’m going to assume my dad’s role and be everything from CEO to GM to Financial Controller to Lord of the Sith, etc… Dude knows he isn’t capable of running the football side and he’s attempting to get that structure in place so the franchise is in it’s best possible position for the future. What else do they want him to do? Had no problem with Silver’s Hue article the day before. Obviously that one was bias too, but news is news, but that piece of crap right there was garbage and dude seriously needs to get hurt for that. Imagine the pain he’s causing when Al’s family reads that. F’n clown. F#ck Yahoo”
The article was pure SLANDER nothing more nothing less.
January 12th, 2012 at 10:36 am
There was a reason Al Davis was always hesitant to fire these POS defensive coordinators we seem to collect. I am sure it is VERY difficult for Al to find patsies who will allow the owner to bend them over and force them to do certain things, foregoing their own philosophies.
If Al was still in charge and had fired Hue, Al would already be putting the coaching staff together while waiting for someone to become desperate enough to take the HC job because all the other jobs were gone, or they were not getting calls.
I love that McKenzie made it clear the HC would pick his own staff. What a breath of fresh air.
January 12th, 2012 at 10:36 am
The point I was making was that if you are a fan of the team, if you even think your input is going to be HEARD you better damn well be spending some money. Even then your input is as meaningful as a cloudy day in Japan, but they might actually read your letter if you are season ticket holder.
January 12th, 2012 at 10:36 am
Wait, Santa isn’t real?
January 12th, 2012 at 10:37 am
Some of you guys sound like butthurt exboyfriends spouting of trash about your ex-chick. Let it go already.
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Some of you guys are like a spoiled annoying kid that just had your favorite toy taken away. Don’t worry – time heals all wounds
January 12th, 2012 at 10:37 am
624.ghostraiders Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 9:55 am
618,,,,lmao.. debo. You say the funniest things.
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Kordell Stewart seems to have made a damn good point about either a black QB is a starter, or he’s out of the league.
He used Aaron Brooks as his main example.
Jamarcus Russell is better than Kyle gawd damn Boeller. I know that FOR SURE!
It’s all on him though, imo. If Russell showed up ANYWHERE simply weighing 250lbs, he CERTAINLY get a shot.
January 12th, 2012 at 10:37 am
I wouldn’t post much stock in anything Mike Silver says. That guy HATES the Raiders. If we won the Super Bowl he would claim the fix was in.
January 12th, 2012 at 10:38 am
AL Davis, since 1983, has been a worthless piece of crap – 1983 being the last year Raiders won the Superbowl. Most people only go back to the Gruden anomaly in 2002, but it goes back further to 1983 when AL realized he could make more money winning lawsuits against the NFL and city of Oakland than winning football games.
With AL’s shenanigans, the Raiders have been in the league cellar for 29 years. This is a great drama of the rise and fall of a great genius – a genius who couldn’t resurrect himself or his team after the initial fall.
Now all you fools think you know the Raiders and Davis from the old days, but you are all a bunch of 3-hair young little bastards, who, if you are under the age of 50, know nothing about the greatness of the Raiders at all.
My advice to you is shut up and learn.
AL was crap for 29 yrs and deserved to be turned out to the curb. He should have been run out of the league and his minority partners should have expelled him from the partnership in which he held a 60% ownership interest. No boys and girls, AL didn’t, nor his family now, don’t exclusively own the Raiders, even though you dumb asses thought so.
So now while God gave us a miracle and took AL back to football Heaven, or wherever the hell he ended up, we can rejoice that his stink and taint is now abating.
Hue was loud mouthed, pimped out BS’er – a bully who couldn’t keep a single promise or remedy problems he himself created. He not only deserved to be fired, but on the way out the door, slapped across the face with an ax handle, appropriate to all con artists of his ilk. Hue bragged about the CP being the greatest trade in sports: CP being a washed up, aged QB who quit on the Bengals after making $125M in 8 yrs. It was a great trade alright, but only for Cincy.
Now all you haters and pretenders – adolescent whores preening in front of a mirror – know the real story; just shut the F up and watch the team eliminate AL’s taint and stink and all that the taint and stink touched.
The Raiders will soon return to greatness.
January 12th, 2012 at 10:38 am
667,
I agree. We were a nation capable of achieving anything we wanted. We were hard workers, and treated each other with some respect.
Today:
we have kids who look up to gangsters instead of doctors, teachers, etc…
We have kids shooting kids at schools
Our ignorance will destroy this great Country.
Mr. J Carter told us this will happen, and no one listened to him.
J Carter: Real American.
January 12th, 2012 at 10:39 am
Morning/afternoon peoples!
January 12th, 2012 at 10:39 am
“You embarrass yourself every time you hit the keyboard.”
Really that’s funny because you said the single most uneducated stupidest thing ever here when you claimed that the Italians “invented” electricity.
Not only did the blog have a good laugh at you all day because of that…many of us showed our coworkers who also had a good laugh at your expense.
Your life is a joke the fact that you exist is purely for the entertainment of the more intellectual people on the planet and now we all have a village idiot that we can all laugh at and say “Thank God I am not him”
January 12th, 2012 at 10:39 am
Some of you guys are like a spoiled annoying kid that just had your favorite toy taken away. Don’t worry – time heals all wounds
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I see one guy still posting about Hue being fired and being angry about it. Chris in NY.
I see half the blog STILL trying to disparage Hue, like they are going to get him MORE fired or something.
January 12th, 2012 at 10:39 am
That way Reg is absolved for any blame if the coaching staff fails.
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Dakota Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 10:36 am
I love that McKenzie made it clear the HC would pick his own staff. What a breath of fresh air.
January 12th, 2012 at 10:41 am
Mark is part of our Raider family.
January 12th, 2012 at 10:41 am
Mr. J Carter told us this will happen, and no one listened to him.
J Carter: Real American
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O,
did you recently start buying your d0pe from that liberal preppie Michigan fan that lives in IL ?
you know, the one who hates the best 2 players on the team? – DMAC & Condo
January 12th, 2012 at 10:41 am
WE can trash on Mark, but no one else better or else…
January 12th, 2012 at 10:41 am
The article was pure SLANDER nothing more nothing less.
Slander is verbal, libel is written. But totally agree, hope Mark sues his ass! I mean really, Silver is qualified to pyscho analysis Davis’s without even talking to him!
January 12th, 2012 at 10:42 am
I love that McKenzie made it clear the HC would pick his own staff. What a breath of fresh air.
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I almost felt like hitting the lottery when I heard that.
January 12th, 2012 at 10:42 am
J Carter = Real American
R Regan= American devil
Who elects a bad actor to be their leader?
January 12th, 2012 at 10:42 am
683.MistaBrown Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 10:39 am
That way Reg is absolved for any blame if the coaching staff fails.
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Dakota Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 10:36 am
I love that McKenzie made it clear the HC would pick his own staff. What a breath of fresh air.
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I don’t think it is about that Mista, I think Reggie just wants people all working together and on the same page. He said as much in his presser. Ultimately, if the coaching staff is a failure, Reggie will have to answer to Mark Davis.
January 12th, 2012 at 10:43 am
WHO IS TODD BOWLES?
http://www.raidernationstation.com/ones_to_watch
January 12th, 2012 at 10:44 am
DMAC Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 10:39 am
Morning/afternoon peoples!
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No drum roll this time.
FK u guys to this morning/afternoon
January 12th, 2012 at 10:45 am
DutchRaider77 Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 10:41 am
The article was pure SLANDER nothing more nothing less.
Slander is verbal, libel is written. But totally agree, hope Mark sues his ass! I mean really, Silver is qualified to pyscho analysis Davis’s without even talking to him!
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The league knows full well that Silver is Jackson’s buddy. I think the article will hurt Jackson more in the long run than anything else. Jackson is like some of the psycho chicks I dated. They try to come up with weird reasons why things didnt work out. It’s never their fault of course. Jackson was the one that fed Silver the scoop on Mark. Dont be surprised to see Jackson runs back to college like Kitten did.
January 12th, 2012 at 10:45 am
RR,
LMAO
No trees from Preppie.
I’m a huge fan of J Carter, and as you can tell I dislike R Reagan.
January 12th, 2012 at 10:45 am
Its gonna be interesting to see Reggies take on the current roster, who stays, who goes… I’m pretty excited about that. I want defenders who knock the f@cking snot out of people, not wiffers…
On the offensive side, wonder how Reggie will evaluate #85 Dokie Williams, I mean Heyward-Bey??
January 12th, 2012 at 10:46 am
Dakota Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 10:36 am
There was a reason Al Davis was always hesitant to fire these POS defensive coordinators we seem to collect. I am sure it is VERY difficult for Al to find patsies who will allow the owner to bend them over and force them to do certain things, foregoing their own philosophies.
If Al was still in charge and had fired Hue, Al would already be putting the coaching staff together while waiting for someone to become desperate enough to take the HC job because all the other jobs were gone, or they were not getting calls.
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Exactly. When Jim Fassel publicly expressed interest in the Raiders job a few years ago, it was taken as a sign of how desperate he was to get back into the NFL, instead of his UFL purgatory.
Here’s another example of the new way of doing things: Al probably couldn’t have gotten Bowles to come here. A bright young defensive assistant with other offers? He might come for the interview, but afterwards he’d find an excuse to not take the job. He wouldn’t have wanted Al meddling in everything.
January 12th, 2012 at 10:46 am
I don’t care what offense we run. Just score some fk’n TD’s. I don’t care what defense we run, just stop our opponents from scoring TD’s.
Nuff said!
January 12th, 2012 at 10:46 am
Btw, I’m not a dem or a rep. I think both parties have their own agenda, and I dislike both parties.
January 12th, 2012 at 10:46 am
Slander is verbal, libel is written. But totally agree, hope Mark sues his ass! I mean really, Silver is qualified to pyscho analysis Davis’s without even talking to him!
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It really isn’t even libel. Mark Davis would have to somehow prove that the words in Silver’s article in some way caused a hardship, or were accusatory of a criminal act. Saying Mark was a pvssy and got punked by his dad is Silvers first ammendment right to free speech. Now if Silver said Mark was a pedophile THAT would be libel. Or if Silver said Mark was a thief, and it cause Mark to lose out on a business deal, THAT would be libel. His article was nothing more than the words of a hateful man protected by his constitutional right to free speech.
January 12th, 2012 at 10:46 am
“I don’t think it is about that Mista, I think Reggie just wants people all working together and on the same page. He said as much in his presser. Ultimately, if the coaching staff is a failure, Reggie will have to answer to Mark Davis.”
Dakota you can lead a horse to water…..but you can’t make the dipshlt drink.
You are dealing with a person who has a very low IQ don’t expect to much out of him go easy talk slow and explain yourself like you are talking to a 3 year old and that way Brownstains might have a chance at grasping your information “MIGHT” I say .
January 12th, 2012 at 10:47 am
“The site where The O is now is a huge spot and the plan from the Mayor is to build a Coliseum Complex, or whatever she called it. There is space to build all 3 so that the Raiders/A’s/Warriors can all still be in Oakland! Wolf,however wants to leave Oakland…he gt rid of pretty much everyone to make sure we lose 100 games this year! What a…”
I hope you don’t put your faith in Quan, a woman who couldn’t even control hippie dips who cost longshoremen a few days of pay. She’s a loser. I can see how financiers could roll her. She knows she’s on a very short leash with voters and she’s desperate for some happy news.
January 12th, 2012 at 10:48 am
I see one guy still posting about Hue being fired and being angry about it. Chris in NY.
I see half the blog STILL trying to disparage Hue, like they are going to get him MORE fired or something.
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BCZ, I like you and Chris. got no probs with either of you personally. Just disagree with your takes on Hue
a bunch of bloggers are still p1ssed at Hue because of the new info leaked about him that actually helped him out the door and it’s still making dudes angry because Hue is still opening his mouth, flapping his gums.
Fact of the matter is (in my opinion), it doesn’t matter what Hue says. You’re even the one who told me to ignore his weekly pressers. He’s always been a smooth talker. You guys keeping harping on the hand he was dealt. We’re saying that he should have had the Raiders in the playoffs regardless, should have said NOTHING about the GM search to Mark Davis and should have kept his friggin trap shut after getting fired – you know, like professionals do.
January 12th, 2012 at 10:48 am
You know what Dakota, I hope your right! But this new way, at this particular time when the Raiders are so close is like trying to pick strawberries in a corn field. The new GM is green and feeling his way through blindly. You feel that the best way to approach this team that had some direction ,a productive offense, was to blow it up. I feel the best way was to keep what was working and build on it. Good luck!!
January 12th, 2012 at 10:48 am
you claimed that the Italians “invented” electricity.
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Yeah, that was a good one.
January 12th, 2012 at 10:49 am
684.RaiderRockstar Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 10:41 am
O,
did you recently start buying your d0pe from that liberal preppie Michigan fan that lives in IL ?
you know, the one who hates the best 2 players on the team? – DMAC & Condo
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Watch yourself Scotty!
Carter = best President in my lifetime.
DMAC = spoiled quitter
Condo = Prince Valiant wannabe
January 12th, 2012 at 10:49 am
BTW, Condo can snap but NOT run and tackle.
January 12th, 2012 at 10:49 am
Reggie has never been a GM and he’s getting all this love as though he walks on water. Reminds me of when Hue came on as OC and HC, people were tripping over themselves to kiss his ass.
January 12th, 2012 at 10:50 am
“His article was nothing more than the words of a hateful man protected by his constitutional right to free speech.”
He still needs to know that is unacceptable and Yahoo should not publish hate mongering its very unprofessional….would you agree?
January 12th, 2012 at 10:50 am
And I don’t sell trees. But I buy my share!
January 12th, 2012 at 10:50 am
687.DutchRaider77 Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 10:41 am
The article was pure SLANDER nothing more nothing less.
Slander is verbal, libel is written. But totally agree, hope Mark sues his ass! I mean really, Silver is qualified to pyscho analysis Davis’s without even talking to him!
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Really? The defense to libel or slander is the TRUTH. You think Mark wants to put members of the 2008 Raiders coaching staff on the stand to tell ugly stories about his relationship with his Dad? You think Al Davis didn’t have it in him to treat his son that way? Remember, Al is the guy who walks into the Locker room and drops a towel on the floor and waits for his subjects to shine his shoes. Al certainly never sued over that story now did he? Not like Al was ever afraid of the courtroom now was he? So it stands to reason that the story itself was most likely true.
Now, Silver is a total fk stick for letting it see the light of day. It was pointless, and was simply aimed at hurting Mark Davis and Al Davis. That is the travesty of the story, not that it was somehow libelous.
January 12th, 2012 at 10:51 am
Its gonna be interesting to see Reggies take on the current roster, who stays, who goes…
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I think you are going to see the most change on defense.
I think we will see at least 2 changes on the Oline.
Think we might use our depth at WR to grab a draft pick.
January 12th, 2012 at 10:52 am
Any chance Nick Saban gets an interview?
January 12th, 2012 at 10:52 am
“J Hill Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 10:48 am
you claimed that the Italians “invented” electricity.
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Yeah, that was a good one.”
It was a classic and I still laugh about it, glad you remember it, I thought I was the only one.
January 12th, 2012 at 10:53 am
Last offseason –
Davis = experienced GM
Jackson = inexperienced HC
Saunders = experienced OC
Bresnahan = experienced DC
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This offseason I think we could have the opposite of that. HC with experience and GM, OC & DC with none.
January 12th, 2012 at 10:54 am
“Now, Silver is a total fk stick for letting it see the light of day. It was pointless, and was simply aimed at hurting Mark Davis and Al Davis. That is the travesty of the story, not that it was somehow libelous.”
No Dakota the travesty of the story is that you believe one word of it!!
And I used to think you had a viable opinion….WTF Dakota come on man!
January 12th, 2012 at 10:54 am
He still needs to know that is unacceptable and Yahoo should not publish hate mongering its very unprofessional….would you agree?
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Read ANY of Silver’s article about the Raiders though. The guy makes a living sh1tting on the silver and black. Outside of the fans of the Raider Nation, most people would either agree or not give a sh1t. Of course I don’t want to see that crap written, but I am emotionally invested in the Raiders, like most of us that post here.
January 12th, 2012 at 10:55 am
glad you remember it, I thought I was the only one.
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I didn’t remember it until you brought it up.
Didn’t even know who said it.
Just remember the blog having a little fun with it.
January 12th, 2012 at 10:55 am
For the record, I didn’t give any ideas to Fat Jason Witless, but he nailed Hue right on the money:
“Firing Hue-bris was not remotely controversial. The controversy would’ve been in his retention. Whatever skills he has a play-caller and a leader are undermined by his delusion and arrogance.”
I personally prefer HueSux to Hue-bris, I guess some one here started the Hue-bris awhile back.
January 12th, 2012 at 10:55 am
luvmarvhub #667
Just tell it like you feel it, brah……don’t back track into political correctness. We all know about the Mexicanization of CA, especially the city of Los Angeles. Also, I personally am fed up with the ghetto blacks who were ruined by the creation of a welfare state, now so firmly entrenched that public assistance monies are considered property protected by the Takings Clause and 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.
With that being said, hope for Los Angeles remains: as soon as we toss out of office the current pimpster, taco-bending little narcissitic, whore mongering, unsuccessful 4th time taker of the CA Bar Exam, (Antonio Villa) maybe Los Angeles will be put on the right track.
The city doesn’t belong to welfare blacks and illegal Mexicans…..far from it.
So, bottom line, I believe it does make sense to build a new stadium next to the Staples center. A good, common sense plan to suppress gang activity and gratuitive violence in the new stadium, such as Magic Mountain recently undertook, should be successful.
Also, the economic benefits that come with the construction and subsequent presence of a new stadium is incalcuable, same as the Staples Center is now.
January 12th, 2012 at 10:57 am
I wonder if Matt Giordano is being considered for a player/defensive coordinator type of role?..
January 12th, 2012 at 10:57 am
I’m glad McKenzie is going to restructuring the personnel and front office they way it should have been for awhile now.
Glad McKenzie will let his head coach pick his own staff….ALL the way through and not half azz it like what old man Al used to do with some coaches he picks and some coaches the head coach picks.
I just hope the new head coach, doesn’t screw up what the offense has going now.
The Defense has nowhere to go but up and to improve, the team doesn’t need the offense to regress now.
January 12th, 2012 at 10:58 am
Brownstains you have been spanked, tattooed and humiliated now tuck your tail between your legs and crawl back under your trailer until Oakglenn comes in here to administer his daily Borwnstaons beating!
January 12th, 2012 at 10:58 am
What, you think it is hard to believe that Al Davis told his son to ‘Get the fck out of here’? I don’t… Look no further than the Lane Kiffin or Tom Cable dismissal conferences to see how Al could treat people. He was the King of his own world.
I guess, according to Silvers theory of Mark eliminating all who witnessed it, Trask and Herrera should start packing?
January 12th, 2012 at 10:59 am
Gruden is on his way back. As some won’t favor the idea, once he puts on the head coaching hat for the second time, most detractors will be whistling a different tune.
Grudens re-hire is logical and what is sorely needed. So if any anti-Gruden thoughts occour, consider this: a rookie head coach is the only other option.
I’ll go with the proven Gruden who’ll have the backing of a good GM and owner.
Grudens’ hire will mean the club is serious about the direction it wants to go.
Gruden is back. Get ova it!
January 12th, 2012 at 10:59 am
Also, does anyone know what level alternate “Gio” is for the Pro Bowl??
January 12th, 2012 at 11:00 am
A lot of semi pros have said that with Reggie Mac as GM and Winston Moss as HC, Rolando McClain would get some time. They’ll be patient with him and allow him to develop.
I think just the opposite. I don’t think either of these guys would want a knucklehead like ROMAC as the Defensive QB & captain. I think he’d be on a short leash and they’d be pretty critical of his game after watching his performance the past 2 seasons, despite his take that he’s doing his job and it’s up to the other guys to do theirs.
January 12th, 2012 at 11:00 am
666,
You really can’t see Al Davis being a d1ck? Really? Come on man.
January 12th, 2012 at 11:00 am
Saints are letting one of their assistants interview for the Rams job.
Just seems like a GB guy would have been here to interview if it was going to happen.
January 12th, 2012 at 11:02 am
675.J Hill Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 10:37 am
624.ghostraiders Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 9:55 am
618,,,,lmao.. debo. You say the funniest things.
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Kordell Stewart seems to have made a damn good point about either a black QB is a starter, or he’s out of the league.
He used Aaron Brooks as his main example.
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May seem that way but really how many black QB’s are there? And how many black QB’s are out there that are known for their x’s and o’s knowledge (not atheleticism)?
Played against Seneca Wallace in highschool and at Sac City College (before he blew up…and yes I’m a semi-pro…lol). The guy was smart and knew his sh!t. He’s not were he’s at off of athleticm and size (otherwise he would have been big time out of highschool)
Now whether guys who are smart are looked over with athletes in lower levels is a good article to write…
January 12th, 2012 at 11:02 am
723.Tumbleweed Paradise Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 10:59 am
Gruden is on his way back. As some won’t favor the idea, once he puts on the head coaching hat for the second time, most detractors will be whistling a different tune.
Grudens re-hire is logical and what is sorely needed. So if any anti-Gruden thoughts occour, consider this: a rookie head coach is the only other option.
I’ll go with the proven Gruden who’ll have the backing of a good GM and owner.
Grudens’ hire will mean the club is serious about the direction it wants to go.
Gruden is back. Get ova it!
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Man, I hope so! That was get the whole Raider Nation of fans so freakin pumped and can you imagine the amount os season tickts Trask will sell?
They announce Gruden tomorrow as head coach, they phones at Raiders Headquarters will be ringing off the freakin hook!
What makes you so sure he is coming back? Any legit sources or just “hope” on your part?
January 12th, 2012 at 11:02 am
726.RaiderRockstar Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 11:00 am
A lot of semi pros have said that with Reggie Mac as GM and Winston Moss as HC, Rolando McClain would get some time. They’ll be patient with him and allow him to develop.
I think just the opposite. I don’t think either of these guys would want a knucklehead like ROMAC as the Defensive QB & captain. I think he’d be on a short leash and they’d be pretty critical of his game after watching his performance the past 2 seasons, despite his take that he’s doing his job and it’s up to the other guys to do theirs.
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Short leash? Hell, I think he will be cut the minute they watch some film on him.
January 12th, 2012 at 11:02 am
Hue said this morning on 95.7 that Al Davis was the D-coordinator. I think we all knew that one, but what some of us didn’t know was that……….
Davis > Bres (calling the plays on D)
January 12th, 2012 at 11:03 am
Just had to turn that channell from NFLN.
The ex coach is on Rich Eisen’s Podcast.
I just can’t understand why this is even a story. I don’t see any other ex coaches on TV. Why is someone who was fired relevant AT ALL???
Be right back, gotta take a sh….
January 12th, 2012 at 11:03 am
732.DMAC Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 11:02 am
Hue said this morning on 95.7 that Al Davis was the D-coordinator. I think we all knew that one, but what some of us didn’t know was that……….
Davis > Bres (calling the plays on D)
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True. I would take Davis as a DC over Chucky B….even now!
January 12th, 2012 at 11:03 am
We should all call Raider Headquarters and tell them to bring back JON GRUDEN!
January 12th, 2012 at 11:04 am
Hues on Rich Eisens pod cast on NFNL right now.
January 12th, 2012 at 11:05 am
What you do is call the Raiders HQ and ask to talk to Gruden… when they say he isnt here or doesnt work here you say “He should” then hang up.
over and over.
January 12th, 2012 at 11:05 am
I wonder if Matt Giordano is being considered for a player/defensive coordinator type of role?..
Also, does anyone know what level alternate “Gio” is for the Pro Bowl??
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DD,
Matty G spends 8 hours a day in the film room and another 8 hours a day in the weight room. I doubt he’ll have time to act as DC, but I’m sure they approach him and act for some logical candidates. He’ll serve as a “consultant” like Ron Wolf.
He won’t be at the Pro Bowl, but he’ll have plenty of his own money to go to Hawaii after he gets the franchise tag this offseason.. good lookin’ out
January 12th, 2012 at 11:06 am
If you in support of a move to LA then you are against the Raiders and are not a Raider…Dakota, Beecher, Wasbtched and other idiots aren’t Raiders….deserve death. Have no respect and exalt thievery
January 12th, 2012 at 11:06 am
If Gruden came back, I would be okay with it. i think he learned his lesson that he needs a real GM, not a contract guy like Bruce Allen. Gruden with a veteran QB like Palmer would be a very good hire.
But I don’t think Gruden would do it.
January 12th, 2012 at 11:06 am
I wonder if Matt Giordano is being considered for a player/defensive coordinator type of role?..
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McKenzie doesn’t like guys wearing too many hats.
Will probably have him focus on being the best 4th string S he can be.
January 12th, 2012 at 11:06 am
J Hill Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 11:03 am
Just had to turn that channell from NFLN.
The ex coach is on Rich Eisen’s Podcast.
I just can’t understand why this is even a story. I don’t see any other ex coaches on TV. Why is someone who was fired relevant AT ALL???
Be right back, gotta take a sh….
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Whoops, u beat me to it.
Yeah, I’ve never seen a coach get so much air time after being let go.
January 12th, 2012 at 11:07 am
Al D. Davis said,
“The site where The O is now is a huge spot and the plan from the Mayor is to build a Coliseum Complex, or whatever she called it. There is space to build all 3 so that the Raiders/A’s/Warriors can all still be in Oakland! Wolf,however wants to leave Oakland…he gt rid of pretty much everyone to make sure we lose 100 games this year! What a…”
I have to disagree: “Build it and they will come.”
That includes the darker element of Raider Nation. And they number in the tens of thousands in an area that is home to millions…and they’ll have no trouble buying tickets.
I blame Al for his failure to put a cap on that when it first reared it’s head in LA. Words from him would have disassociated the Raiders from that element, but Al only cared about the $$$$$$$$. He made lots of money with merchandise sales because our colors included black.
Then, if you’ll recall, once that happened with the LA Raiders, many other sports’ franchise owners began changing their colors to feature black; still others who didn’t actually change their uniforms colors, sold merchandise that featured black in hats, jerseys, etc.
They appealed to the gang banging and rap vulgarity culture…anything for a buck. Fortunately, most teams have finally shed those associations, but not the Raiders.
January 12th, 2012 at 11:07 am
Screw Gruden. He sucked here. Only when he got CANNED did Trestman turn Gannon into an MVP.
Gruden was the problem. Too conservative.
And he bombed in Tampa after ruining Dungy’s great team.
January 12th, 2012 at 11:07 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 11:05 am
I wonder if Matt Giordano is being considered for a player/defensive coordinator type of role?..
Also, does anyone know what level alternate “Gio” is for the Pro Bowl??
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DD,
Matty G spends 8 hours a day in the film room and another 8 hours a day in the weight room. I doubt he’ll have time to act as DC, but I’m sure they approach him and act for some logical candidates. He’ll serve as a “consultant” like Ron Wolf.
He won’t be at the Pro Bowl, but he’ll have plenty of his own money to go to Hawaii after he gets the franchise tag this offseason.. good lookin’ out
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Your right dude. What was I thinking..
January 12th, 2012 at 11:07 am
Forgot to write the point to my post:
The backup QB is a guy who is smart and can run a playbook at a moments notice. Doesnt necessarily need to be the biggest or most athletic.
For us…Terrelle Pryor will either be a starter and good QB or out of the league. There is no in between. It either clicks AND he uses his size and speed or it doesnt and you cant have him as your backup…
January 12th, 2012 at 11:07 am
correction: “first reared its head”
January 12th, 2012 at 11:07 am
Follow-up to a thread last night:
If the Raiders decide to go back to LA does that mean they dig up Al and take him with them for the move?
If yes, I wonder if they’ll hire a professional to handle the transportation or just go down to the Chapel of the Chimes, pick him up & put him in a U-haul to head South.
What happens to the eternal flame? So much for tradition I guess…
If they stay in Oakland (like they should), GREAT! If not, whether it be Santa Clara, LA or ???, then I personally say screw them. I’ll just watch them on the NFL ticket.
January 12th, 2012 at 11:08 am
As Dr Zola would say of the HueJack firing:
the sanity of the plan is of no consequence.
So for anyone trying to see the relevance of the firing, give it up. Nothing makes sense as any hope of stability spirals out of control. Firing Hue was wrong, just plain wrong.
Lets keep the DC, but fire the head coach. Brilliant. Absolutely ingenious. Another attention ‘hey look at me’ type move during the post season.
Irrational. Not well thought of. Just cause a couple of guys might have been butt hurt over something, they fire Hue. I just hope Hue doesn’t go to denver. Hue with a chip on his shoulder and Tebow and the Denver D could spell trouble for a long time. If I’m Denver, I’m all over Hue treating him like a military defector jumping ship and wanting assylum in trade for secrets.
January 12th, 2012 at 11:08 am
Man, I hope so! That was get the whole Raider Nation of fans so freakin pumped and can you imagine the amount os season tickts Trask will sell?
They announce Gruden tomorrow as head coach, they phones at Raiders Headquarters will be ringing off the freakin hook!
What makes you so sure he is coming back? Any legit sources or just “hope” on your part?
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Say it again…Gruden comes back and I’m all in on tickets…
January 12th, 2012 at 11:08 am
J Hill Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 11:06 am
I wonder if Matt Giordano is being considered for a player/defensive coordinator type of role?..
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McKenzie doesn’t like guys wearing too many hats.
Will probably have him focus on being the best 4th string S he can be.
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Makes sense.
January 12th, 2012 at 11:08 am
734.Dakota Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 11:03 am
732.DMAC Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 11:02 am
Hue said this morning on 95.7 that Al Davis was the D-coordinator. I think we all knew that one, but what some of us didn’t know was that……….
Davis > Bres (calling the plays on D)
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True. I would take Davis as a DC over Chucky B….even now!
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Remember when a bunch of us called after kiffin let the news out that Davis was running the defense? The Raiders had to release a statement denying it lmao. Probably because of all the calls, I am sure.
January 12th, 2012 at 11:08 am
Gruden is done coaching and I don’t want that dumy back…he wants all old people and his style of offense don’t work in the NFL now
January 12th, 2012 at 11:09 am
I don’t know Elk.
I just know that Kyle Boller sucks, lol.
January 12th, 2012 at 11:11 am
From Fat Jason Witless:
Yep, Silver established his reputation as arguably the best NFL writer in the country (Silver is far superior to Peter the King) by repeatedly going toe-to-toe with Al Davis. It’s comical watching Hue-bris feign undying loyalty and respect for Al Davis while collaborating with Davis’ top media enemy on stories that paint Al’s son as inept.
Which leads me back to my main point: The city of Oakland should throw a parade for whoever — Mark Davis or Reggie McKenzie — was responsible for kicking Hue-bris Jackson to the curb.
Hue-bris’ arrogance is matched by his subversiveness and selfishness. Hue-bris is Rex Ryan (cocky), Richard Nixon (sneaky) and Marlo Stanfield (greedy) rolled into one loud-talking silver and black package.
The Carson Palmer trade — orchestrated by Hue-bris — could quite possibly be remembered as the dumbest, most-selfish act in the history of professional sports. Seriously. Capitalizing on the power vacuum created by the death of an NFL legend, a first-time head coach, in a desperate attempt to pad his resume and back into the playoffs with a flawed team with zero chance of winning the Super Bowl, compromised the future of his organization by handing Mike Brown a fortune for a washed-up quarterback.
When the stupidity and narcissism of the decision was laid bare during a season-ending loss to the hapless and directionless San Diego Chargers, Hue-bris responded by lashing out at his players and promising to fight for more control of the organization.
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/hue-jackson-hubris-not-racism-got-him-fired-by-oakland-raiders-011211
January 12th, 2012 at 11:11 am
753.Method To My Madness Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 11:08 am
Gruden is done coaching and I don’t want that dumy back…he wants all old people and his style of offense don’t work in the NFL now
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Well, his offense didn’t work with Bruce Garbagekowski and Phil Sims’ kid at QB. That’s for sure.
January 12th, 2012 at 11:12 am
Wow….US soliders caught on camera pissing on Taliban prisoners? Oh boy lol….it won’t be long now until we get into extreme chaos….have as much as u can before then eh
January 12th, 2012 at 11:12 am
Just had to turn that channell from NFLN.
The ex coach is on Rich Eisen’s Podcast.
I just can’t understand why this is even a story. I don’t see any other ex coaches on TV. Why is someone who was fired relevant AT ALL???.
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Because, despite what most people want to believe, it is a legitimate question to ponder if firing him 1 year into the job, was the right decision for this franchise.
That’s why.
You can hate him all you want, but the answer to that question remains up in the air, time will tell.
Sure hope it was the right move.
January 12th, 2012 at 11:12 am
The ex coach is on Rich Eisen’s Podcast.
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Funny.
Sparano & Haley got fired and are out looking for new jobs.
Anybody seen Steve Spags, Jack Del Rio or Raheem Morris lining up 100 interviews with the media?
January 12th, 2012 at 11:14 am
Hue to appear on oprah, tonight show, jerry stinger, wheel of fortune, you name it.
Oh Boy!
January 12th, 2012 at 11:14 am
The reason Mark announced the LA deal publicly was a PR stunt. He is trying to light a fire under the folks in Oakland to get something done. Lease is up in 2013, they have a year to figure it out.
January 12th, 2012 at 11:14 am
Hue is gone. Weather you liked/disliked him. He’s gone.
Time to move on!
January 12th, 2012 at 11:15 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 11:12 am
The ex coach is on Rich Eisen’s Podcast.
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Funny.
Sparano & Haley got fired and are out looking for new jobs.
Anybody seen Steve Spags, Jack Del Rio or Raheem Morris lining up 100 interviews with the media?
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Raheem Morris already has a new job with the Redskin. Hue’s best option right now is HC of the El Segundo High Spartans. He should take it.
January 12th, 2012 at 11:15 am
Well, his offense didn’t work with Bruce Garbagekowski and Phil Sims’ kid at QB. That’s for sure.
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How could you skip over the noodle armed QB and old slow arsse WRs that noodle armed QB had to throw too?
Chucky was the MAN!
January 12th, 2012 at 11:15 am
The ” Oakland Raiders ” Belong in Oakland…..
Amy Trask that they will never give up 30% ownership in exchange for a stadium in LA..
The Raiders stay in the Bayarea…
January 12th, 2012 at 11:16 am
Brien,
When your Cuz is playing for the Lakers and you are down in LA “working” for him, won’t it be convenient that the Raiders are there too?
January 12th, 2012 at 11:16 am
734.Dakota Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 11:03 am
732.DMAC Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 11:02 am
Hue said this morning on 95.7 that Al Davis was the D-coordinator. I think we all knew that one, but what some of us didn’t know was that……….
Davis > Bres (calling the plays on D)
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True. I would take Davis as a DC over Chucky B….even now!
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I think we all knew this all along. It’s just amazing that the Defense got worse AFTER Al passed away! It doesn’t say very much about Bresnahan. Now we all know why Al never hired a defensive minded head coach. I can only infer that during the “Art Shell Reboot Experience” that Al was also the O Coordinator as well.
January 12th, 2012 at 11:17 am
And wait…Gruden? I heard rumors about it…I for one thinks he’s done! Why would he come back? And he was way too conservative for me…That snow job could have been a win and not let it go for what it became had he NOT been too conservative!
January 12th, 2012 at 11:17 am
LOl I saw and spoke with Jason Whitbtch in Vegas…he is a condescending punk and I told him as such. He didn’t think Mizzou would beat Illinois that day….well guess that fat phaggot was wrong
January 12th, 2012 at 11:18 am
Sparano is teh new OC for the Jets, right?
January 12th, 2012 at 11:18 am
Wow. Hue getting more airtime, then he ever got when he was the coach. Go Figure!
Bring back Gruden, give him control of hiring his own assistants and a say in the roster with McKenzie and sell tickets, bring buzz and excitement back to the Raiders franchise and go win a Super Bowl!
January 12th, 2012 at 11:18 am
Gruden us too conservative, and I don’t like WC offense.
Keep our vertical offense!
January 12th, 2012 at 11:18 am
Whats a Drexl? Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 6:07 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
303Raider Says:
January 11th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
On another note, why the hell hasn’t bresnahan been fired!!!
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hue fired him without permission, jr brought him back and it shows everyone who is in charge. his contract is nearly up, but the new coach will determine who stays and who goes
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That is some stupid backwards logic right there.
So far the company line is that the new GM will make all decisions regarding the HC. Thus the HC makes the decision about who his assistants are.
Your conspiracies are falling all over them selves, get a grip.
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as usua; you have absolutely no clue. this isnt a conspiracy theory its fact.
Hue fired chuck and the defensive staff tuesday morning after the charger game.
Davis over turned it and brought the staff back that is why they were at the presser. His contract expires soon, so as of now he is still employed by the raiders.
January 12th, 2012 at 11:19 am
Wow, people saying Gruden was too conservative waaaaay back in 2001 and then rip Hue for being too aggressive and gambling too much with play calling at times?
Ugh…
January 12th, 2012 at 11:20 am
You can hate him all you want
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Slow down there.
I appreciate what he did for the offense. Would have been fine if the new GM decided to bring him back.
A new GM bringing in his own guy should not that big of a story.
Especially when the story in Oakland has always been us forcing previous hires down the new guys throat.
January 12th, 2012 at 11:20 am
I never said that Hue was too aggressive! I liked that about the offense this past two years, but…Gruden was!
January 12th, 2012 at 11:21 am
and you are down in LA “working” for him,
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LOL!
January 12th, 2012 at 11:21 am
Dumbkota glad you on board with Dixon as the PG of the future in LA! No it won’t be convenient…Mike is a Raider himself and always wanted to go to game in Oakland. Raiders are not a LA thing…what about that don’t you get?
January 12th, 2012 at 11:21 am
How bout this coaching staff :
HC – Tom Cable
OC – Lane Kiffin
OL – Art Shell
WR – Hue Jackson
DC – Don Martindale
LB – Chuck Bresnahan
DB – Matt Giordano
January 12th, 2012 at 11:21 am
771.Raider O Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 11:18 am
Gruden us too conservative, and I don’t like WC offense.
Keep our vertical offense!
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I would think after years of being a game analyst and watching Green Bay run a vertical west coast attack with McCarthy and Rodgers, Gruden would be able to adapt to things he did 10 years ago.
January 12th, 2012 at 11:23 am
Man, I hope so! That was get the whole Raider Nation of fans so freakin pumped and can you imagine the amount os season tickts Trask will sell?
They announce Gruden tomorrow as head coach, they phones at Raiders Headquarters will be ringing off the freakin hook!
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Most of the Raider fans I know who don’t like Al Davis started not liking Al Davis when he let Gruden walk.
January 12th, 2012 at 11:25 am
And Jhill…I feel ya…I ain’t fkin with the jailhouse
January 12th, 2012 at 11:25 am
I wonder how many current season ticket holders would commute to Santa Clara, at a shared stadium, if they left Oakland? I know I would NOT.
There’s another big negative about moving to a much larger stadium – BLACKOUTS! They can’t fill the current O.co with having fire sales on the tickets for those games. In one case this year, they even gave 2 free tickets to season ticket holders for a game so they could get a sellout to lift the blackout. If they are going to move to a large stadium, I just hope it’s more than 250 miles or more from Oakland so at least we can get blackout free coverage from the NFL ticket..
January 12th, 2012 at 11:25 am
780.J Hill Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 11:23 am
Man, I hope so! That was get the whole Raider Nation of fans so freakin pumped and can you imagine the amount os season tickts Trask will sell?
They announce Gruden tomorrow as head coach, they phones at Raiders Headquarters will be ringing off the freakin hook!
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Most of the Raider fans I know who don’t like Al Davis started not liking Al Davis when he let Gruden walk.
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One of the worst decisions old man Al ever made and he has made some bad decisions. I was furious when he did that.
January 12th, 2012 at 11:25 am
778.Method To My Madness Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 11:21 am
Dumbkota glad you on board with Dixon as the PG of the future in LA! No it won’t be convenient…Mike is a Raider himself and always wanted to go to game in Oakland. Raiders are not a LA thing…what about that don’t you get?
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Well, he better get it done soon. Lease is up in 2013…
January 12th, 2012 at 11:25 am
without
January 12th, 2012 at 11:26 am
J Hill
It wasn’t directed at you, the hate comment, I recall your stance, centered, I think.
January 12th, 2012 at 11:27 am
Dknight….no way…Gruden is too stubborn to channge
January 12th, 2012 at 11:29 am
THIS SEASON TIX HOLDER SAY’S NO TO GRUDEN X 2
January 12th, 2012 at 11:30 am
JB…many not riskin that DUI…but some will…I won’t go to all 8 games for damn sure….Santa Clara county police do not fk around…plus no tailgating? Ruins Raider experience I tell ya….somehing in Oakland will get done
January 12th, 2012 at 11:30 am
@Dakota and bcz24
“libel 1) n. to publish in print (including pictures), writing or broadcast through radio, television or film, an untruth about another which will do harm to that person or his/her reputation, by tending to bring the target into ridicule, hatred, scorn or contempt of others.”-THIS IS CIVIL, NOT CRIMINAL
Dakota: “It was pointless, and was simply aimed at hurting Mark Davis and Al Davis.”-SOUNDS LIKE A OPENING STATEMENT-”In order to win a libel lawsuit, private individuals need only prove that an article about them was libelous, and that it was published.”
Now everything up to this is alright…
“Mark Davis is Tommy Boy, trying not to face-plant on a table full of beers. And the thought of presiding over a team with a brash, intelligent and charismatic coach who knew how dismissively his father used to treat him had to be a daunting prospect.
So, in my opinion, Davis did what many bosses do when they feel threatened by someone with a superior skill set and an aversion to brown-nosing: He kneecapped Jackson. And I suspect that the owner will encourage McKenzie to clean out as many people on the football side of the building as he can, if only to start fresh with a new crop of employees who don’t have visceral images of his inglorious past.”
How is this the Truth? You don’t think the above statment will hurt Mark Davis in his future business dealings?
January 12th, 2012 at 11:31 am
Fk Hue and the horse he rode in on with manicured toenails.
January 12th, 2012 at 11:31 am
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 11:29 am
THIS SEASON TIX HOLDER SAY’S NO TO GRUDEN X 2
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This non-season ticket holder, but attends all games says he’ll leave it up to our new GM to hire his dude.
what up Dirt
January 12th, 2012 at 11:32 am
778.Method To My Madness Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 11:21 am
Dumbkota glad you on board with Dixon as the PG of the future in LA! No it won’t be convenient…Mike is a Raider himself and always wanted to go to game in Oakland. Raiders are not a LA thing…what about that don’t you get?
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Well, he better get it done soon. Lease is up in 2013…
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It’s not about it being an LA or an Oakland “thing”. It’s a money thing plain and simple. If the current economic state in The Bay Area can’t sustain the team then the team must relocate. I am a fan from La my preference would be for the team to stay in Oakland though. But, if moving to LA means that the Raiders will have more cashflow to build a more competitive team. I’ll be ok with it.
January 12th, 2012 at 11:32 am
787.Method To My Madness Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 11:27 am
Dknight….no way…Gruden is too stubborn to channge
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With our staff he can run any offense he wants to. If its the WC offense then so be it. The only one it hurts is DWow. Can you imagine Ford catching 5 yrd outs and making people miss? DHB would be a good fit also. More dinks and dumps to DMC.
Gruden brought a swag…
I hope the next coach does the same. Man…is there gonna be some pressure on him…
January 12th, 2012 at 11:33 am
They’ll build a New stadium right where the O stands today…or use that land next to Jack London square ..
January 12th, 2012 at 11:33 am
Funny, but when Silver was writing how the Raiders were going to go the AFC championship game this year and hitting the airwaves all season giving us good press, I never saw anyone complain.
Silver is a columnist, and one who likes to be controversial. He gets paid to do that.
Yahoo probably was disappointed there wasn’t more bashing in the article.
January 12th, 2012 at 11:34 am
Dumbkota…don’t worry bout the Raiders…they staying HOME….u just prepare to buy my cousin’s jersey……and I’ll bring some real fire and energy to the Fakeppl Center that hasn’t been seen ever….you guys can finally understand how to really act at a hoop game
January 12th, 2012 at 11:34 am
I feel ya…I ain’t fkin with the jailhouse
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I understand doin what you gotta do and all, but I”M COOL on being locked up in my closet 23 hours a day.
I’m doing everything by the book, or paying someone else, lol.
January 12th, 2012 at 11:35 am
We’re good Marley.
I know it’s hard to keep track of who falls where.
I’m rolling with the new GM.
January 12th, 2012 at 11:36 am
788.DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 11:29 am
THIS SEASON TIX HOLDER SAY’S NO TO GRUDEN X 2
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Overall, the Raider Nation of fans would overwhelmingly enbrace Gruden and they would sell a crap load of season tickets and they won’t have to rely on single game season sales to sell out home games.
January 12th, 2012 at 11:36 am
Really, what other choice is there, Marley?
The way I see it, either you are with the team or you are not.
I’m going to wear my Raider beanie regardless!
January 12th, 2012 at 11:37 am
experience I tell ya….somehing in Oakland will get done
790.DutchRaider77 Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 11:30 am
@Dakota and bcz24
“libel 1) n. to publish in print (including pictures), writing or broadcast through radio, television or film, an untruth about another which will do harm to that person or his/her reputation, by tending to bring the target into ridicule, hatred, scorn or contempt of others.”-THIS IS CIVIL, NOT CRIMINAL
Dakota: “It was pointless, and was simply aimed at hurting Mark Davis and Al Davis.”-SOUNDS LIKE A OPENING STATEMENT-”In order to win a libel lawsuit, private individuals need only prove that an article about them was libelous, and that it was published.”
Now everything up to this is alright…
“Mark Davis is Tommy Boy, trying not to face-plant on a table full of beers. And the thought of presiding over a team with a brash, intelligent and charismatic coach who knew how dismissively his father used to treat him had to be a daunting prospect.
So, in my opinion, Davis did what many bosses do when they feel threatened by someone with a superior skill set and an aversion to brown-nosing: He kneecapped Jackson. And I suspect that the owner will encourage McKenzie to clean out as many people on the football side of the building as he can, if only to start fresh with a new crop of employees who don’t have visceral images of his inglorious past.”
How is this the Truth? You don’t think the above statment will hurt Mark Davis in his future business dealings?
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I’m convinced that everything in this article is true. And it presents the most plausible theory behind Hue’s dismissal yet. I put myself in Mark’s shoes and maybe I do the same thing. An extremely well-written piece.
January 12th, 2012 at 11:37 am
The Raiders could bring in Art Shell to be the HC, and I would be right here on opening week telling everyone that we are on our way to the SB!
January 12th, 2012 at 11:37 am
What’s up DMAC, Dirt Lot, B and the rest of the Nation!!!
January 12th, 2012 at 11:38 am
J Hill Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 11:34 am
I feel ya…I ain’t fkin with the jailhouse
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I understand doin what you gotta do and all, but I”M COOL on being locked up in my closet 23 hours a day.
I’m doing everything by the book, or paying someone else, lol.
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What you should do is pay someone to give you that hair transplant. That way you won’t be locked up in that closet and you can jump on that greyhound and head up north to the O.
lol
January 12th, 2012 at 11:38 am
TRUE DMAC.IF MR.MCKENZIE THINKS GRUDEN CAN BRING A WINNER BACK HERE,WILL BACK THAT DECISION.DONT THINK BEING A SEASON TICKET HOLDER MAKES ME ANY BETTER THAN ANYONE ELSE,OR A BETTER FAN.
January 12th, 2012 at 11:38 am
Hwnrdr,
Another day another $.
Blessed to still be breathing.
January 12th, 2012 at 11:40 am
As soon as Mark Silver said ‘In my opinion’ any chance of it being considered libel was removed.
January 12th, 2012 at 11:40 am
Dirt,
No offense taken here. Never.
January 12th, 2012 at 11:40 am
717. “I personally prefer HueSux to Hue-bris, I guess some one here started the Hue-bris awhile back.”
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That was Raider Nation Station
January 12th, 2012 at 11:40 am
800.DKnight007 Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 11:36 am
788.DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 11:29 am
THIS SEASON TIX HOLDER SAY’S NO TO GRUDEN X 2
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Overall, the Raider Nation of fans would overwhelmingly enbrace Gruden and they would sell a crap load of season tickets and they won’t have to rely on single game season sales to sell out home games.
That would be nice, but he couldn’t do it the first time around…not saying that he won’t this time, but…truthfully…I don’t care about black outs too much! I love the energy of a sold out crowd, but I do watch every game!
Do you think that all the fans that were pissed at Al for letting Gruden go will buy up tickets if he came back? Just asking…
January 12th, 2012 at 11:41 am
Avion phaggot…shut da fk up! Yes it is about Oakland…Raiders are an Oakland thing…not long after leaving they lost their identity so ur bs post doesn’t stand for anything but advocating theft…everything built inOakland was damn near killed in LA…Raiders are not LA…never will be…..you leave Bay Area you lose your real support base and money can never replace that!
January 12th, 2012 at 11:41 am
If you don’t actually have the authority to fire someone, who can you fire someone?
How does that conversation go?
Hue: Chuck, I got to let you go.
Chuck: That’s not your decision, go talk to the boss.
Hue: I want you stuff out of here by noon.
Chuck: I just took a crap in your locker, and wiped my azz with your maroon socks.Fire that azzhole.
January 12th, 2012 at 11:41 am
806. Bring back Gruden give him one year, he goes 8-8 fire him
January 12th, 2012 at 11:42 am
I dont see any reason for andrew luck or any other qb in this years draft being ranked ahead of RGIII?!?!?!
Maybe people will point to size or the so called pro offense vs spread offense theory.
Size is the only variable that i will half way accept RGIII isnt small though, he isnt a vick type. He is 6″3 225, so I dont think size is a huge issue.
The nfl now is full of spread offenses, and the nfl would be wise to take RGIII and build an offense around his skill set like we saw denver do with tebow, and carolina do with newton.
This isnt like what mcnabb culppepper, mcnair, young, cunningham, stewart, had to deal with as they were forced into offense that didint take full advatage of their unique talent.
I will say right now if you have an ultra athletic qb, you need to utilize the asset that seperates him from his counterparts, his running ability.
RGIII would do very well in an offense simlar to what rodgers runs in gb, or breeze in new orleans. I would mix in some jet sweep action, and a little read option, just to make the defense stay in base. However the best part o Griffins game IS HIS THROWING ABILITY. HE IS THE MOST ACCURATE PASSER I HAVE EVER SEEN IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL BAR NONE!!!
Luck is very good, but RGIII can do everything luck can do, and plenty of things luck could never dream of doing.
Time for the nfl, media draft experts, and the rest of the world to wake up to the facts. The qb position needs to evolve, and RGIII, AND CAM NEWTON ARE THE WAVE OF THE FUTURE!!!
RGIII > LUCK…..and it isnt even close
January 12th, 2012 at 11:43 am
813.Just Fire Baby Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 11:41 am
If you don’t actually have the authority to fire someone, who can you fire someone?
How does that conversation go?
Hue: Chuck, I got to let you go.
Chuck: That’s not your decision, go talk to the boss.
Hue: I want you stuff out of here by noon.
Chuck: I just took a crap in your locker, and wiped my azz with your maroon socks.Fire that azzhole.
LMAO!
January 12th, 2012 at 11:43 am
Method To My Madness Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 11:21 am
Raiders are not a LA thing…
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Unless you are into male fans coming to games wearing sequined gowns and makeup on one side of the stadium and idiotic trashed gangbanging scum on the other side that knife unsuspecting fans in the parking lot after the Raiders lose. If you are into that, LA is a great place for the Oakland Raiders.
January 12th, 2012 at 11:44 am
Wheres my theme music?
“return of the MACK”
mark morrison
January 12th, 2012 at 11:44 am
Sorry Dk but WCO like GB is not the variation Gruden runs…which is outdated….try again patna
January 12th, 2012 at 11:44 am
Al Davis fired Cable, and said it wasn’t based entirely on performance. He said if we made the playoffs, he still would have fired him.
So, why are we suprised if the youngster is just like his father, and didn’t want Hue in the building anymore, no matter if we went 6-10 or 10-6?
January 12th, 2012 at 11:45 am
Silver=Says that Mark Davis has deep pyschological problems brought upon by the abuse from his father and that resulted in the firing of Hue Jackson. That Mark Davis is a sick man and a idiot…That is what I got from the story.
January 12th, 2012 at 11:45 am
That is a dam good point JFB!
January 12th, 2012 at 11:45 am
Just say NO TO GRUDEN.
way too conservative and over rated
January 12th, 2012 at 11:46 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 11:42 am
I dont see any reason for andrew luck or any other qb in this years draft being ranked ahead of RGIII?!?!?!
Maybe people will point to size or the so called pro offense vs spread offense theory.
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That’s what it is. Luck ran a pro style offense and excelled at it. Teams know exactly what they are getting with him.
January 12th, 2012 at 11:46 am
What you should do is pay someone to give you that hair transplant.
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Look hear Samson!
You just worry about trying to get the Ws on track.
And stop bangin fat chicks!
January 12th, 2012 at 11:47 am
WTF we need a new stadium for anyways?
i see no problem with the OAKLAND COLISEUM.
if anything, we just need a new bigger score board/video screen and THATS IT
January 12th, 2012 at 11:47 am
Hey Seymour…if you’re talking about the Black Hole and the opposite side of the Black Hole…I’m on that side and I am not an idiotic thrash talking gang banger knifing people in the parking lot person!
January 12th, 2012 at 11:48 am
814.GoodOle00 Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 11:41 am
806. Bring back Gruden give him one year, he goes 8-8 fire him
^^^^^^^^
hahaha
January 12th, 2012 at 11:49 am
Gayvion…you have zero respect for the old folks who were down since 1960…the people in the crowd and community had a connection with the team that was as much apart of the wins as anything. Oakland is the underdog city not LA
January 12th, 2012 at 11:49 am
I am sure that before Hue decided he was going to fire the staff, he needed to burn a timeout before making the call.
January 12th, 2012 at 11:49 am
i got nothing against Mark Davis
but watching him talk with that “dumb and dumber” haircut had me laughing way too hard to fully pay attention to what he was saying
January 12th, 2012 at 11:50 am
820.Just Fire Baby Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 11:44 am
Al Davis fired Cable, and said it wasn’t based entirely on performance. He said if we made the playoffs, he still would have fired him.
So, why are we suprised if the youngster is just like his father, and didn’t want Hue in the building anymore, no matter if we went 6-10 or 10-6?
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Cable isn’t a very good example. Al also said that he saw Cable’s offense and then saw “the other guy’s” (Hue) and the decision wasn’t that hard. Plus Cable had all that wife/girfriend/Randy Hanson beating baggage. The better example is Kiffin. Al said it was the 1st time he fired a guy based on a personality conflict and not results on the field.
January 12th, 2012 at 11:50 am
J Hill Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 11:46 am
What you should do is pay someone to give you that hair transplant.
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Look hear Samson!
You just worry about trying to get the Ws on track.
And stop bangin fat chicks!
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I’m not banging fat chicks. I’m bangin cougars, but fat chicks need luv 2.
lol
January 12th, 2012 at 11:51 am
J Hill.
Really, what other choice is there, Marley?
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Exactly, I’m the biggest Reggie McKenzie fan out there (aren’t we all?), Hue was not the Raiders, Al was and now Mark and Reggie are, so I’m with them all the way, but that does not mean I have to agree with their every move, at least not until they develop a track-record of success.
January 12th, 2012 at 11:51 am
B@uce outro
January 12th, 2012 at 11:51 am
Mistic…let the black/white QB thing go! Saying this as a black man…its not always about color! We dont get an award for having more black qbs. Hell…we dont get an award for having a black president!
JC didnt lose his job because he was black. He got hurt, looked like a deer in the headlights most the time, and had too many WTF fumbles..
January 12th, 2012 at 11:52 am
hwnrdr Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 11:47 am
Hey Seymour…if you’re talking about the Black Hole and the opposite side of the Black Hole…I’m on that side and I am not an idiotic thrash talking gang banger knifing people in the parking lot person!
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No. I am talking about LA dude. If you look at any old clip of the Raiders you never saw anyone dressed up with scarves and makeup on their faces looking like idiots. That’s an LA thing. Same with the gang element.
January 12th, 2012 at 11:52 am
HWNRDR,THINK SEYMOUR WAS SAY’N THOSE WERE L.A. FAN TRAITS..
January 12th, 2012 at 11:52 am
Debo,
So than the last 3 coaches have all been fired for being azz-holes?
Good, glad we got that settled.
January 12th, 2012 at 11:52 am
819.Method To My Madness Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 11:44 am
Sorry Dk but WCO like GB is not the variation Gruden runs…which is outdated….try again patna
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Gruden could never run a variation of McCarthys vertical west coast style in the past, cause he never had a big armed slingin QB like Rodgers.
With Carson he can throw the ball downfield now.
January 12th, 2012 at 11:53 am
B,
folks who dont understand why it is, will and always should be Oakland Raiders do no know what it is to be a raider.
a real raider.
January 12th, 2012 at 11:53 am
Yeah no doubt this is the real story right here.
Tommy boy wants some respect!!!!
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=Aj7XKtkXxD5gASrX8WEf.Y1DubYF?slug=ms-silver_oakland_raiders_hue_jackson_mark_davis_011112
Hue is going to come back and kick Oaklands @$$ just like Gruden and Shanahan did in Denver. Just watch and see.
January 12th, 2012 at 11:53 am
mack-madden Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 11:49 am
i got nothing against Mark Davis
but watching him talk with that “dumb and dumber” haircut had me laughing way too hard to fully pay attention to what he was saying
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You gotta admit, he does have that player azz goatee tho.
lol
January 12th, 2012 at 11:53 am
POST-830,GREAT CALL JFB..
January 12th, 2012 at 11:54 am
839.Just Fire Baby Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 11:52 am
Debo,
So than the last 3 coaches have all been fired for being azz-holes?
Good, glad we got that settled.
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Not quite. Kiffin and Jackson did. Cable was an incompetent “azz-hole”. Lethal combo.
January 12th, 2012 at 11:54 am
If they don’t hire Gruden as coach and they wind up hiring Moss, then Moss better keep Saunders as OC or hire Packer QB coach Tom Clements as the new OC.
Otherwise, there is some serious slim pickens out there when it comes to viable OC’s and play callers.
January 12th, 2012 at 11:55 am
837.Seymour Bush Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 11:52 am
hwnrdr Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 11:47 am
Hey Seymour…if you’re talking about the Black Hole and the opposite side of the Black Hole…I’m on that side and I am not an idiotic thrash talking gang banger knifing people in the parking lot person!
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No. I am talking about LA dude. If you look at any old clip of the Raiders you never saw anyone dressed up with scarves and makeup on their faces looking like idiots. That’s an LA thing. Same with the gang element.
838.DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 11:52 am
HWNRDR,THINK SEYMOUR WAS SAY’N THOSE WERE L.A. FAN TRAITS..
Sorry Seymour, my bad!
January 12th, 2012 at 11:55 am
Soup is a good dude, and I am sure he saw right through Hue.
Can we all put to rest the notion that it was Cable who benched Soup for Bruce?
That type of undercutting is par for the course for Huebert.
January 12th, 2012 at 11:55 am
Carson has cement cleats.
he cant evade/avoid sacks.
u expect him to be mobile enough for an offense that requires a moving pocket and throwing from different angles?
January 12th, 2012 at 11:56 am
Unless you are into male fans coming to games wearing sequined gowns and makeup on one side of the stadium and idiotic trashed gangbanging scum on the other side that knife unsuspecting fans in the parking lot after the Raiders lose
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Way too emotional of a topic for Oakland residents to be objective.
And I can understand that.
The bottom line is $ though. At least from the teams perspective. They are running a business after all.
It’s as simple as Oakland getting their act together and getting a stadium built. Chinese $ or whatever it takes.
But LMFAO for you guys to have a beef with LA because YOUR CITY effed it off.
You are out of your mind if you think there will be any of that gangster crap at the new stadium.
January 12th, 2012 at 11:56 am
DMAC Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 11:53 am
mack-madden Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 11:49 am
i got nothing against Mark Davis
but watching him talk with that “dumb and dumber” haircut had me laughing way too hard to fully pay attention to what he was saying
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You gotta admit, he does have that player azz goatee tho.
lol
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Mark Davis = fat chick banger
January 12th, 2012 at 11:57 am
I thought Carson was moving around pretty well the last game of the season. That pass to Boss for the TD was a great job of manipulating the pocket.
I am just hoping that it was due to getting his game legs under him, and not that it was just an aberration.
January 12th, 2012 at 11:57 am
Cable finishes 8-8 and says we’re not losers anymore, Davis fires him.
Jackson finishes 8-8 and says the defense is full of losers, Davis fires him.
Memo to the next Head Coach of the Oakland Raiders: QUIT LOSING!
January 12th, 2012 at 11:58 am
The bottom line is $ though. At least from the teams perspective. They are running a business after all.
It’s as simple as Oakland getting their act together and getting a stadium built. Chinese $ or whatever it takes.
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Exactly, the Raiders deserve better than being scoffed at by Oakland.
Don’t think the city should be playing chicken with probably one of their best tax-revenue generators.
January 12th, 2012 at 11:58 am
Like I said…winning cures all!
January 12th, 2012 at 11:59 am
Bottom line is the Raiders need a new stadium.
Option 1, 2 and 3 should be Oakland.
But to suggest that it’s Oakland even if that means playing in a jacked up stadium means that the TEAM is not your priority.
We just won’t be able to compete financially which means we won’t be in the SB hunt!
January 12th, 2012 at 11:59 am
RaiderDebo Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 11:50 am
The better example is Kiffin. Al said it was the 1st time he fired a guy based on a personality conflict and not results on the field.
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That would have been the second time, not the first.
The first was when Al fired Shanahan. Basically, Shanahan’s WR coach Nick Nicolau told Shell that with Alex Gibbs coaching the line, Shell was only on the staff because he was Davis’s pet. Shell went and asked Al if this was true. Al’s response was to immediately fire Nicolau. Shanahan then tried to fire both Shell and Tom Walsh, but Davis told them to go back to work. Everything deteriorated pretty quickly after that, and Shanahan was replaced by Shell within the week.
January 12th, 2012 at 11:59 am
854.Just Fire Baby Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 11:58 am
The bottom line is $ though. At least from the teams perspective. They are running a business after all.
It’s as simple as Oakland getting their act together and getting a stadium built. Chinese $ or whatever it takes.
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Exactly, the Raiders deserve better than being scoffed at by Oakland.
Don’t think the city should be playing chicken with probably one of their best tax-revenue generators.
True becuase it aint gonna be the A’s anytime soon!
January 12th, 2012 at 11:59 am
Mark Davis = fat chick banger
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So he is a humanitartian? Large ladies need loving too, Mark is saving the world?
January 12th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
Do I want the Raiders to stay at home where they belong? YES!!!!!! But I can’t be bad at others for wanting them in their city.
January 12th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
Mark Davis = fat chick banger
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I doubt it.
Females smell $, so being the son of an NFL owner, I’m sure he’s got plenty of dimes on speed dial.
January 12th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
J Hill Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 11:59 am
Bottom line is the Raiders need a new stadium.
Option 1, 2 and 3 should be Oakland.
But to suggest that it’s Oakland even if that means playing in a jacked up stadium means that the TEAM is not your priority.
We just won’t be able to compete financially which means we won’t be in the SB hunt!
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not trying to get at you or anyone sideways BUT…
please explain why we need a new stadium?
whats wrong with the oakland coliseum?
i say upgrade the score board/video screen and we all good.
January 12th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
Mack-Madden Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 11:56 am
Mark Davis = fat chick banger
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And WHAT is wrong with that? Not everyone goes for the Hollywood Anorexic look. Some of us are interested in WOMEN, not skinny little girls.
January 12th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
8-8
We’re not losers……..
But we ain’t winners
January 12th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Atlanta could be a potential landing spot for Hue. They’ve gone with pretty low key with personalities over there since the whole Vick saga but they do need some life injected into that offense.
Now that could end real ugly as well as it could bring them glory… my last 2¢ on Hue.
January 12th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
ElkGRaider Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 11:51 am
Mistic…let the black/white QB thing go! Saying this as a black man…its not always about color! We dont get an award for having more black qbs. Hell…we dont get an award for having a black president!
JC didnt lose his job because he was black. He got hurt, looked like a deer in the headlights most the time, and had too many WTF fumbles..
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I never once said anything about race, or jc, so wtf are you talking about? Why am i asking you, its not like you even really know what you are talking about.
my post is about RGIII vs. Luck, and the qb position evolving.
If you cant se past skin color your just a sick person that needs to step into 2012.
news flash we are free now fiddla, we dont have to fear honest conversation
January 12th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
i dont need a giant coke bottle if left feild for me to watch the athletics either
January 12th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
Carl Weathers Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Atlanta could be a potential landing spot for Hue. They’ve gone with pretty low key with personalities over there since the whole Vick saga but they do need some life injected into that offense.
Now that could end real ugly as well as it could bring them glory… my last 2¢ on Hue.
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As long as Hue can keep his ego and mouth in check, he’d be a good choice for OC.
January 12th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
864.DMAC Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
8-8
We’re not losers……..
But we ain’t winners
And we had a chance to break that this year! Oh well…for the sake of argument, at least Cable won the last game of the year! But was way too excited for only being 8-8! Hence why Davis canned him!
January 12th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
mack-madden Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
J Hill Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 11:59 am
Bottom line is the Raiders need a new stadium.
Option 1, 2 and 3 should be Oakland.
But to suggest that it’s Oakland even if that means playing in a jacked up stadium means that the TEAM is not your priority.
We just won’t be able to compete financially which means we won’t be in the SB hunt!
$$$$$$$$$
not trying to get at you or anyone sideways BUT…
please explain why we need a new stadium?
whats wrong with the oakland coliseum?
i say upgrade the score board/video screen and we all good.
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Yeah, the coliseum ain’t 2 bad.
Its cool for football, but its schitty for baseball tho.
January 12th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
Carl Weathers Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 11:57 am
Cable finishes 8-8 and says we’re not losers anymore, Davis fires him.
Jackson finishes 8-8 and says the defense is full of losers, Davis fires him.
Memo to the next Head Coach of the Oakland Raiders: QUIT LOSING!
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Before last season started if you told me we would have Dmac maybe the offensive MVP of the league, Carson Palmer, DHB having almost 1000 yards, Kevin Boss, Mike Bush having almost 1000 yards as well and one of the top Olines in the league and we weren’t one of the top 4-5 offenses in the league? Someone has to go.
January 12th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
mack-madden Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
i dont need a giant coke bottle if left feild for me to watch the athletics either
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Honestly, I don’t like the coliseum for baseball. Got some fked up views in some areas.
Damn, I miss those ol’ school wooden bleachers. (use 2 stomp the hell out of them)
January 12th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
Atlanta could be a potential landing spot for Hue. They’ve gone with pretty low key with personalities over there since the whole Vick saga but they do need some life injected into that offense.
Now that could end real ugly as well as it could bring them glory… my last 2¢ on Hue.
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Carl don’t want to make you cry, but the ending of the Hue interview on 95.7, they asked him the about the rumor of him being the OC for KC…Now anywhere other than the division will I hope that Hue does well and wish him success. But a position in SD, Denver or KC, I hope he FAILS! Like to think Hue got the ax for Reggie to bring in his guys and to begin a fresh start, nice story.
January 12th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/story/_/id/7454651/new-york-jets-owner-woody-johnson-defends-mark-sanchez-gets-turmoil
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The sudden backlash against anonymous sources is amazing to me. Don’t remember anyone having a problem with anonymous sources questioning JR’s work ethic. And those allegations were extremely vague compared to the ones being leveled at Sanchez. What a joke!
January 12th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
A guy I would like brought in for DC is Mel Tucker, the guy that Jax promoted after Del Rio. I like his story and he seems like a bad ass. Their D was pretty solid this year.
January 12th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
please explain why we need a new stadium?
whats wrong with the oakland coliseum?
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Because the owner wants a new one “yesterday” (his words).
That’s usually how these things work.
The location is absolutely perfect but the stadium is not on par with the league.
Arrowhead, the Donks stadium can both fit a good 12-15K extra in their parks, per game.
That’s costing us MILLIONS upon MILLIONS of dollars per season.
Why stack the deck against us? I think the best scenario would be to share Santa Clara with the 49ers for two years, until our bad azz newly contructed stadium is rebuilt, right where it is at today.
Tell the A’s to figure out it.
January 12th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
yea a little crappy for baseball, but prices are much more reasonable than to get a new A’s ballpark and deal with double-triple the cost for tickets, food, etc
January 12th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
mack-madden Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
yea a little crappy for baseball, but prices are much more reasonable than to get a new A’s ballpark and deal with double-triple the cost for tickets, food, etc
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I still don’t understand why the fake azz usher/securities be trippin on where you sit at. They should be happy fans still come to the games.
January 12th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
I could give a fvck whether Hue succeeds or not anywhere else. He’s gone, no longer a Raider.
There have been very few players or coaches that I wished well after they left and ended up on another tesam.
January 12th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
I would like to see dedicate himself into getting into top shape with a full off season program and knowing he is going to working again.
He needs to work on conditioning, getting his legs and core stronger, footwork and lateral movement.
If Carson re deciates himself into getting back into shape before camp starts, I think it will for him to up his game even more next year.
January 12th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
Here’s my choice for DC.
Nolan.
But I’ll leave it up to the GM to hire his coach and then let the coach bring in his staff.
January 12th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
My brother was stationed near Seattle for years, and I have family up there.
People were up in arms on why they needed to blow up the Kingdome. Fielded both teams, good location, etc.
They blew that shathole up, and I have been to both Qwest field and Safeco Park.
Those parks are dimes, pretty much built right where the kingdom was. There is nothing wrong with Mark Davis aspiring for the Oakland Raiders to have something like that.
If Oakland can’t fulfill the order, than he has every right to flirt at the bar with other cities.
He isn’t married to Oakland.
January 12th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
ok Fair enough i see your points.
money is the motivation.
im used to making top ramen into a gourmet meal so i just dont feel we NEED a new stadium, but can understand what the new stadium movement is all about
January 12th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
I never once said anything about race, or jc, so wtf are you talking about? Why am i asking you, its not like you even really know what you are talking about.
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Any white QB’s that are underrated Mistic we could get in the draft? EVERY post you make has a racial undertone…
“This isnt like what mcnabb culppepper, mcnair, young, cunningham, stewart, had to deal with as they were forced into offense that didint take full advatage of their unique talent.”
You just lumped six totally different QB’s into your argument. McNabb forced into the wrong offense? WHAT? McNair? He went to a superbowl. Culppepper? Set records on a good Minn team. What do they all have in common Mistic?
Troll…Troll on……Troll on…Troll on (Like the Floaters sang…)
January 12th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
please explain why we need a new stadium?
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We don’t. The reason owners cry about new stadiums is if you look at the Forbes list of the value of the top franchises ALL of them have new stadiums they control. It ups the value of the franchise. Now, if you believe what Mark Davis said that “we need a new stadium to be competitive”, tell that to the SF Phony Whiners or Green Bay. The whiners play in the biggest POS stadium in any developed country and they seem to be doing just fine. This is the classic case of billionaires wanting mom and pops to make them richer.
January 12th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
oakland aint got no money to be buying a new ballpark…
let alone TWO
January 12th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
Hue was fun but he lost me on two main issues, the trade for palmer and the subsequent treatment of the team leader and captain that he appointed. The head scratching benching of our most productive durable and reliable receiver DHB. That bull crap he tried to sell about DHB not being in the formations didnt fool anyone. This action seemed like a very punitive way to try and divorce DHB and the rest of the team away from JC.
These two acts were classless, and i couldnt view him in the same manner I did up to that point.
He lost davis jr along the way as well. im guessing the irish coffee presser, the man pedi treatment, the post charger media meltdown and firing staff without the proper clearance had everything to do with it.
Why would davis jr let hue trash the team that his father built?
Big mack im sure didnt like what he saw in gb from the raiders being blown out, and wanted his own man. Im sure its a guy that has been waitng for big mack to secure a post and bring him along (moss).
As far as the silver article who cares? Davis jr says he wants to rebulid and restore the legacy of his father, ill take him at his word no matter what silver thinks. Besides if davis thought his son was an idoit why did he leave him the keys, and not pick someone else to run the show? this is football, its not puppy dogs and rainbows, people yell at eachother in eevery pro sports front office, this is not exclusive territory for the silver and black.
So far davis jr, has shown himself to be like his pop, and smart enough to put the people in place that can do what his father did.
January 12th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
appears with each passing moment that the most recent former Raider HC further justifies any and all reasons for his dismissal.
little dude needs a tunic so he can better portray his Napoleonic complex.
January 12th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
I am sure that before Hue decided he was going to fire the staff, he needed to burn a timeout before making the call.
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LOL @ JFB
January 12th, 2012 at 12:20 pm
874.RaiderDebo Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/story/_/id/7454651/new-york-jets-owner-woody-johnson-defends-mark-sanchez-gets-turmoil
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The sudden backlash against anonymous sources is amazing to me. Don’t remember anyone having a problem with anonymous sources questioning JR’s work ethic. And those allegations were extremely vague compared to the ones being leveled at Sanchez. What a joke!
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Why this is a top news story on BSPN is a joke. And there is no east coast bias?
January 12th, 2012 at 12:20 pm
LOL at fake security/ushers at A’s games.
they do be trippin.
i’m like you know you dont get an award or a bonus for acting like you top flight security…
it shoudnt matter if i want to move down a section when NO ONE is sitting there
January 12th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
NFL Network’s Jason La Canfora reports former Jets offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer, Jaguars offensive coordinator Dirk Koetter, former Ravens coach Brian Billick, and Packers quarterbacks coach Tom Clements are all candidates for the offensive coordinator job. – PFT
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no mention of Hue Jax!
January 12th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
With former Eagles director of player personnel Ryan Grigson landing in Indy as the new G.M. and with Colts coach Jim Caldwell’s fate still undetermined, a theory has emerged in at least one circle of the Philly media that would pair Grigson with Eagles offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg. – PFT
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Marley,
sounds like Indy might beat us to Marty!
January 12th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
Hue was fun but he lost me on two main issues, the trade for palmer and the subsequent treatment of the team leader and captain that he appointed.
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According to Hue this morning on the radio he said that he tried calling Campbell more than 3 times and no one answered. He finally got an answer and it was his fiance. She said JC was sound asleep (surgery-medication). Hue said he didn’t want to break the news to her.
January 12th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
i’m like you know you dont get an award or a bonus for acting like you top flight security…
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Nope, no award, but he probably stands a better chance of keeping his job than the dude texting on his phone and letting people sit wherever the F they want.
Jobs are hard to find these days, people will fight to keep them.
January 12th, 2012 at 12:25 pm
NFL Network’s Jason La Canfora reports former Jets offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer, Jaguars offensive coordinator Dirk Koetter, former Ravens coach Brian Billick, and Packers quarterbacks coach Tom Clements are all candidates for the offensive coordinator job. – PFT
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no mention of Hue Jax!
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La Canfora is a hack, they just put him on TV for female eye-candy!
January 12th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
mack-madden Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 12:20 pm
LOL at fake security/ushers at A’s games.
they do be trippin.
i’m like you know you dont get an award or a bonus for acting like you top flight security…
it shoudnt matter if i want to move down a section when NO ONE is sitting there
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top flight
lol
January 12th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
They trip on people movin down because if they let you take better seats then you have people saying I’ll just buy a cheap ticket ansd sit wherever the fvck I want.
Unfortunately, cash rules the world haven’t you noticed?
January 12th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
Sanchez strung together some decent playoff games, and played pretty well in some of those wins.
But he just can’t string it together for 4 months. He would be a great backup though.
A more talented Gradkowski type.
January 12th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
DMAC Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
Hue was fun but he lost me on two main issues, the trade for palmer and the subsequent treatment of the team leader and captain that he appointed.
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According to Hue this morning on the radio he said that he tried calling Campbell more than 3 times and no one answered. He finally got an answer and it was his fiance. She said JC was sound asleep (surgery-medication). Hue said he didn’t want to break the news to her.
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Does this guy have multiple stories for EVERYTHING? ‘Cause it sure seems that way.
January 12th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
mack-madden Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
oakland aint got no money to be buying a new ballpark…
let alone TWO
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Exactly. The days of the rank and file citizens buying billionaires a new house are long over. SF Giants privately financed their stadium, and the new Dallas Stadium came mainly from Jerry Jones, the league and Dallas Fan not the city of Dallas. The Raiders have already bilked a few hundred million out of Raider fans and then put a shi**y product on the field for 10 years. That ain’t gonna happen again.
January 12th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
Another reason for a new stadium, a new facility on par with the Giants/Jets or Dallas’s new stadium could get us a shot at hosting a Super Bowl, that would be MASSIVE revenue for the city of Oakland. The current sight has the best access for mass transportation of any stadium in the country, and if NY can get a Super BOwl in an outdoor stadium NorCal DEFINITELY can!
January 12th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
mack-madden Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 11:47 am
WTF we need a new stadium for anyways?
i see no problem with the OAKLAND COLISEUM.
if anything, we just need a new bigger score board/video screen and THATS IT
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I totally agree. They can also upgrade the locker rooms & Medical facility if they want but other than that the O.co is fine with me. After all, it IS the home of the Oakland Raiders.
If the A’s leave that will take one of my main gripes away – the dirt infield. See you later A’s.
January 12th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
i’m like you know you dont get an award or a bonus for acting like you top flight security…
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Nope, no award, but he probably stands a better chance of keeping his job than the dude texting on his phone and letting people sit wherever the F they want.
Jobs are hard to find these days, people will fight to keep them.
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I feel you Vegas, but c’mon.
The coliseum be empty azz fk and they still don’t let sit where ever you want. They should be glad fans still even bother to show up.
January 12th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
Sanchez strung together some decent playoff games, and played pretty well in some of those wins.
But he just can’t string it together for 4 months. He would be a great backup though.
A more talented Gradkowski type.
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What is the story about Jets trading for P. Manning? Would you do Sanchez and their No. 1 and…
January 12th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
892.RaiderRockstar Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
NFL Network’s Jason La Canfora reports former Jets offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer, Jaguars offensive coordinator Dirk Koetter, former Ravens coach Brian Billick, and Packers quarterbacks coach Tom Clements are all candidates for the offensive coordinator job. – PFT
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no mention of Hue Jax!
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It’s not likely that his name would be associated with the Falcons and Arthur Blank. I was saying it would a be a gamble that could pay off or blow up.
January 12th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
Al D. Davis said,
“The site where The O is now is a huge spot and the plan from the Mayor is to build a Coliseum Complex, or whatever she called it. There is space to build all 3 so that the Raiders/A’s/Warriors can all still be in Oakland! Wolf,however wants to leave Oakland…he gt rid of pretty much everyone to make sure we lose 100 games this year! What a…”
Sorry, Al D. Davis–I read your post too quickly or mixed it up with someone else’s and you can tell from my response that I was thinking that you were advocating a return to LA, which I feel would be a major mistake.
January 12th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
NFL Network’s Jason La Canfora reports former Jets offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer, Jaguars offensive coordinator Dirk Koetter, former Ravens coach Brian Billick, and Packers quarterbacks coach Tom Clements are all candidates for the offensive coordinator job. – PFT
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OC job with Raiders? The only logical choice would be Clements!
Billick aint coming back as OC. His ego won’t allow it, and little Schott sucks as OC and Koetter is nothing special.
If Moss, is hired, then Clements should be offered a promotion here with Raiders to be the OC and play caller. That’s IF Saunders is not retained.
January 12th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
Vegas = Top flight securtiy
just kidding
January 12th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
Jeff Fisher is from Culver City, CA and went to USC.
wonder if he’s waiting for a call from Reggie McKenzie before he commits to Miami or St Louis?
the guy is only 53 and he’s been coaching since 1985. Nobody can say “he isn’t qualified” or “he doesn’t have enough experience”. Bud Adams forced Vince Young on him much like Al Davis forced JaMarcus Russell on Lane Kiffin & Tom Cable!
January 12th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
I feel you Vegas, but c’mon.
The coliseum be empty azz fk and they still don’t let sit where ever you want. They should be glad fans still even bother to show up.
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In all reality you are right. If you got a place 35% full, as long as you are COOL about it, and not trying to sit in the first rows, they shouldn’t hate.
Moneyball, lol. Brad Pitt should do a movie on a Tuesday night home game against the Royals in September.
January 12th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 12:25 pm
NFL Network’s Jason La Canfora reports former Jets offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer, Jaguars offensive coordinator Dirk Koetter, former Ravens coach Brian Billick, and Packers quarterbacks coach Tom Clements are all candidates for the offensive coordinator job. – PFT
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no mention of Hue Jax!
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La Canfora is a hack, they just put him on TV for female eye-candy!
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LOL!
January 12th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
That falcons team has some weapons but man do they look lame.
January 12th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
JB Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
mack-madden Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 11:47 am
WTF we need a new stadium for anyways?
i see no problem with the OAKLAND COLISEUM.
if anything, we just need a new bigger score board/video screen and THATS IT
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I totally agree. They can also upgrade the locker rooms & Medical facility if they want but other than that the O.co is fine with me. After all, it IS the home of the Oakland Raiders.
If the A’s leave that will take one of my main gripes away – the dirt infield. See you later A’s.
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I agree.
few upgardes and we set.
Score board/video screen.
locker rooms medical facilities.
get it done yesterday Mark Davis
January 12th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
DK,
I hope you are not comparing Grudens offense to GBs. Yes they both run the WC offense, but it’s completely different office.
Gruden like to run more and establish a good passing game by running well.
GB are a pass happy team like the Eagles.
January 12th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
please explain why we need a new stadium?
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I’m going to keep it simple and just say because the new owner wants one.
January 12th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
I’m not even an A’s fan, and this Moneyball thing pisses me off.
The book was great, but now you will hear about Brad Pitt in a few months winning like Academy Awards with this s hit.
What a fkn joke!!! Beane is garbage.
January 12th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
alright fellas
i’m up outta here for now.
Warriors +3 tonight.
might even slap some on the money line
January 12th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
one last thing tho…
Tim Tebow = Lance bass
January 12th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
If Moss, is hired, then Clements should be offered a promotion here with Raiders to be the OC and play caller. That’s IF Saunders is not retained
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something to consider. who says Al Saunders wants to stay in Oakland? He was friends with Hue Jackson and relished the opportunity to work with Jason Campbell again. Prior to those guys being around, Saunders declined numerous offers to work for the Raiders.
the guy turns 65yo in a few weeks. who says he wants to be play caller anywhere? Maybe he’ll go back to being a “consultant” somewhere? He’s not a lock to return imo – even if Reggie McKenzie wants him
January 12th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
with that silly azzed hair cut on Mark Davis, maybe we
should call him “Dutch Davis ” !!!!!
January 12th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
You know what would be a great hire, if possible; Gannon as a quarterback coach. He would really help mentor Pryor.
January 12th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
Go Dubs!!!!
Feels like the playoffs already for us, lol.
Big game from David Lee tonight.
26 and 19, book it.
January 12th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
@Dutch
is Mark Davis “eye-candy” for female Raiders fans, as well?
January 12th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
Dubs all day!!!!
January 12th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
ElkGRaider Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
I never once said anything about race, or jc, so wtf are you talking about? Why am i asking you, its not like you even really know what you are talking about.
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Any white QB’s that are underrated Mistic we could get in the draft? EVERY post you make has a racial undertone…
“This isnt like what mcnabb culppepper, mcnair, young, cunningham, stewart, had to deal with as they were forced into offense that didint take full advatage of their unique talent.”
You just lumped six totally different QB’s into your argument. McNabb forced into the wrong offense? WHAT? McNair? He went to a superbowl. Culppepper? Set records on a good Minn team. What do they all have in common Mistic?
Troll…Troll on……Troll on…Troll on (Like the Floaters sang…)
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what an idiot. You should ask what a person thinks about a certain issue before trying to paint them as a racist.
Why would a so called black man be upset that another black man likes black qbs? Dont worry, you wont be whipped for loving your own. The floaters?!?! you must be a pre fifties baby if you were old enough to buy floaters records. do you have that on a 45, lp, or 8 track? Again we can drink form any fountain we want to nowadays, why are you so fearful and hate your own self and kind?
To answer your idiotic question, All of the qbs’ I named have something in common besides skin color, THEY WERE ALL EXTREMELY ATHLETIC QB’S. true they varied in size and had slight differences in their games, but they were all strong armed mobile qbs. the teams they played for tried to fit square pegs into round holes and forced them into offenses that did fully utilize all of their skills, especially their ability to run.
Mcnabb, adapted to the wco as a pro, but he ran an option based attack at syracuse for example, so did kordell. Sure mcnabb and mcnair played in super bowls. pepp, and kordell , randall had some impressive seasons, but that has more to do with their own ability to adapt rather than the teams they played for putting them in position to best use their unique talents.
Im not certain why you need me to mention a white qb, again nobody is after me if i dont. we are free to read and write, marry, and vote, but to make you comfortable ill bite. Brad johnson is guy I always liked and thought was extremely under valued. he was steady smart and rarely made the big mistake to lose the game. In fact my boy JC reminds me of johnson, they are both mobile enough, but jc has a stronger arm.
Plunkett was my first qb hero last i checked he isnt black. Montana is the greatest qb to ever play, (barf), he isnt black.
Now why dont you go sit back crack open a nice cold colt 45, watch some kojak reruns, wait for your perm process to take, and chill out stymie.
January 12th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
In all fairness to Mark’s goofy hair, he is an odd looking feller, I think most hair “cuts” on him would be goofy looking.
What should he have, the high fade? The slick backed JFB look?
Not happening.
January 12th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
Rockstar.
Marley,
sounds like Indy might beat us to Marty!.
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That’s fine, just a qualified name to consider outside the usual inexperienced suspects Moss, Perry, Philbin and Clements.
I find David Shaw more interesting to be honest.
Yes, 1 season as College Head Coach and a couple as OC there, but several as QB coach in the pros and as the son of a former NFL coach, I’m sure his growth and maturation is further along your regular young coach.
January 12th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
Raider O Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
DK,
I hope you are not comparing Grudens offense to GBs. Yes they both run the WC offense, but it’s completely different office.
Gruden like to run more and establish a good passing game by running well.
GB are a pass happy team like the Eagles
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Nope. I wasn’t comparing Grudens WC offense to McCarthys vertical style of the West Coast.
What I said, is that IF Gruden were to come back and coach, I’m sure he would be smart enough to adapt and evolve his style of the west coast to implement more downfield and vertical passing, but it would depend who the QB is and if he has an arm to do so.
Gruden has been analyst for awhile and he knows what works and what doesn’t work for offenses in this pass happy NFL rules driven league.
What I’m saying…is that Gruden would be able to adapt his offense.
January 12th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
Marley,
Read your comment above. I have a great deal of respect for you and your knowledge of football, and your resources you read and advance to us in this blog.
You have the right to question the Raider Organization re the firing of Hugh, all of us have a question mark of who will fill his shoes as the next head coach.
I think you believe their are no Hugh Jackson’s left in Pro football concerns me.
First and foremost Hugh was fired for his press Conf after the S.D. game when he threw everyone, but himself under the bus, and then he made things worse on Monday when he met the local media in Alameda, demanding more control, power and change to his way.
During the year at his press briefings he told the media all that goes wrong is thru him, saying “blame Coach Jackson not the players” , this was the mantra all season, until the last game it’s everyone but Hugh.
His late season lapse, was also a factor and his game management was also a factor.
Hugh realizes his mistake, he’s been on any media outlet he can, to soften his image after his 24 hour(going postal) period directly following the S.D. game.
I won’t even get into the contract situation, he had with Al Davis, that would invite him to jump over McKenzie if he stayed on, and reported to Mark only as the contract stipulates.
Hugh is a self promoter, he will find a job, the tools are here for the next HC and OC, questions marks do remain until we see them play next year, but Hugh had to go, it just wasn’t going to work out with the new management structure with McKenzie.
Be patient, we have 10 years of doing such, we are now in the process of evolving, to a status, almost all in this blog wanted for so long, a GM and structure to this ORG.
January 12th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
754.zopi Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 11:11 am
From Fat Jason Witless:
Yep, Silver established his reputation as arguably the best NFL writer in the country (Silver is far superior to Peter the King) by repeatedly going toe-to-toe with Al Davis. It’s comical watching Hue-bris feign undying loyalty and respect for Al Davis while collaborating with Davis’ top media enemy on stories that paint Al’s son as inept.
Which leads me back to my main point: The city of Oakland should throw a parade for whoever — Mark Davis or Reggie McKenzie — was responsible for kicking Hue-bris Jackson to the curb.
Hue-bris’ arrogance is matched by his subversiveness and selfishness. Hue-bris is Rex Ryan (cocky), Richard Nixon (sneaky) and Marlo Stanfield (greedy) rolled into one loud-talking silver and black package.
The Carson Palmer trade — orchestrated by Hue-bris — could quite possibly be remembered as the dumbest, most-selfish act in the history of professional sports. Seriously. Capitalizing on the power vacuum created by the death of an NFL legend, a first-time head coach, in a desperate attempt to pad his resume and back into the playoffs with a flawed team with zero chance of winning the Super Bowl, compromised the future of his organization by handing Mike Brown a fortune for a washed-up quarterback.
When the stupidity and narcissism of the decision was laid bare during a season-ending loss to the hapless and directionless San Diego Chargers, Hue-bris responded by lashing out at his players and promising to fight for more control of the organization.
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/hue-jackson-hubris-not-racism-got-him-fired-by-oakland-raiders-011211
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I dont know why this fat sleezy slob has a job as a journalist but he is on point about Hue-bris.
But to claim this Clown Silver is the best sports writer because he confronted AL is idiotic.
To claim Carson is washed up at 32 is false as well.
I agree that all the Al Davis “flunkies” are scared ****less right now and now their days are numbered here starting with Herrera.
January 12th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
time to bounce back versus the Nuggets, Spurs & Lakers… 3 straight wins
Go Heat!
January 12th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
In all fairness to Mark’s goofy hair, he is an odd looking feller, I think most hair “cuts” on him would be goofy looking.
What should he have, the high fade? The slick backed JFB look?
Not happening.
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He should at least step his game up to a “Mullin” flat top.
January 12th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
Schefter is reporting that Jeff Fisher is taking his time deciding because it is not about the money…its about winning!
January 12th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
let’s shoot for 3,000 on this post okay steve and jerry
January 12th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
The Hollywood Raiders ….hmm kinda of Catchy
January 12th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
Call me stupid, but I didn’t know the Pack ran a WCO. They seem to go vertical a whole lot to me. Just saying tho.
January 12th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
What is the story about Jets trading for P. Manning? Would you do Sanchez and their No. 1 and…
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The NY media is trying to force the issue. Like the way I did on the blog getting rid of Hue. (sorry Jackson supporters). Mark Sanchez has been pretty much a disappointment and wisely for NY media types they see his production getting worse and worse. Irsay fired Polian in an obvious drunken rage, so it looks like Manning is out as well. The Jet media contingent would love him up there and are trying to spur this on.
January 12th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
932.RaiderRockstar Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
time to bounce back versus the Nuggets, Spurs & Lakers… 3 straight wins
Go Heat!
LOL…NO!
January 12th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
Dell, the voice of reason as usual.
Hue was a hack of a HC, who added un-needed drama to just about everything.
I think the head coaching position will be upgraded in 2012, and I don’t think the players or fans will miss Hue one bit by next November.
January 12th, 2012 at 12:46 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
time to bounce back versus the Nuggets, Spurs & Lakers… 3 straight wins
Go Heat!
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Say it ain’t so! A Raider/Heat fan? lol Awww man…
January 12th, 2012 at 12:46 pm
933.DMAC Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
In all fairness to Mark’s goofy hair, he is an odd looking feller, I think most hair “cuts” on him would be goofy looking.
What should he have, the high fade? The slick backed JFB look?
Not happening.
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He should at least step his game up to a “Mullin” flat top.
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What this guy needs is a Rob Ryan mullet
January 12th, 2012 at 12:46 pm
If the Heat can’t beat the clippers ..They can’t beat The Los Angeles Kobe’s
January 12th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
Saunders does like working with Palmer as well.
I do agree though, he may not want to return, but I think he would like to see this through; although if the Raiders do trade away Palmer and either go with Pryor or another young QB, Saunders I think definately jets.
January 12th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
mack-madden Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
alright fellas
i’m up outta here for now.
Warriors +3 tonight.
might even slap some on the money line
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you do know that Kwame was lost for the season before you make that bet right?
January 12th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
DMAC Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
Hue was fun but he lost me on two main issues, the trade for palmer and the subsequent treatment of the team leader and captain that he appointed.
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According to Hue this morning on the radio he said that he tried calling Campbell more than 3 times and no one answered. He finally got an answer and it was his fiance. She said JC was sound asleep (surgery-medication). Hue said he didn’t want to break the news to her.
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he came on local radio and said that he called jc and his fiance answered. yet after it was done he and jc had no contact for several days, this was classless. That however is only part of the issue, in my view.
January 12th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
934.hwnrdr Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
Schefter is reporting that Jeff Fisher is taking his time deciding because it is not about the money…its about winning!
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What the hell does Fisher know about winning??? Six winning seasons in 17 yrs. That guy’s claim to fame is that he had one of the few “we don’t fire coaches” jobs in the NFL. Great work if you can get it.
January 12th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
Mark, reminds me of a fellow airman, at Warren AFB, we nicknamed, “Pennyhead,” because he had the same hairdo; of course that was back when disco ruled the airwaves.
January 12th, 2012 at 12:49 pm
947.RaiderDebo Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
934.hwnrdr Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
Schefter is reporting that Jeff Fisher is taking his time deciding because it is not about the money…its about winning!
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What the hell does Fisher know about winning??? Six winning seasons in 17 yrs. That guy’s claim to fame is that he had one of the few “we don’t fire coaches” jobs in the NFL. Great work if you can get it.
LOL…exactly! And only went to the AFC Championship what? Twice?
January 12th, 2012 at 12:49 pm
Saunders does like working with Palmer as well.
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I think 98% of NFL QB and offensive co-ordinator types would also like working with Carson Palmer as well.
Don’t let anyone in here try to fool you otherwise.
January 12th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
What should he have, the high fade? The slick backed JFB look?
He should at least step his game up to a “Mullin” flat top.
What this guy needs is a Rob Ryan mullet
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Re: Mark Davis hair suggestions
how about the JLH “gumby cut” ???
January 12th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
The Heat?
The same Heat that got beat by The Dubs w/out Curry?
January 12th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
913.Carl Weathers Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
That falcons team has some weapons but man do they look lame.
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This team is a strong-armed QB away from beating good teams for a change. They better sign Jamarcus before the bidding begis.
January 12th, 2012 at 12:52 pm
Great story on David Shaw from the New York Times:
- With No. 7 Stanford awash in optimism, holding its highest preseason ranking since 1950 and the Heisman Trophy favorite Andrew Luck, Shaw has been elevated from assistant coach to one of the most intriguing positions in college football.
Can the mild-mannered Shaw keep Stanford on the path forged by his ornery predecessor, Jim Harbaugh, who left for the N.F.L. after guiding the Cardinal to a 12-1 record, including an Orange Bowl victory?.
“He won the job,” Athletic Director Bob Bowlsby said.
“He didn’t get it because he was a Stanford guy, or an African-American or because his dad coached here. He won it by articulating a vision and having passion that comes across. This guy is special and has been around a lot of great coaches.”
A few days after Shaw, 39, got the Stanford job, he had a quiet moment in his office with his father, Willie, a longtime assistant coach in college and the N.F.L.
“We closed the door and we hugged and there were tears,” Shaw said. “It was one of the best moments of my life.”
The embrace celebrated two dreams fulfilled. The tears were shed for Willie Shaw’s lost dream, which helped forge a path for David to get the head coaching job he never could.
Willie Shaw, an assistant with five colleges and seven N.F.L. teams, interviewed for five N.F.L. head coaching positions and was a finalist with Philadelphia and Kansas City.
Brian Billick, who coached with Willie Shaw at multiple stops and also coached David at Stanford, said, “It’s hard to understand now, but when you look back in that era, African-American coaches were thought of more as great position coaches and recruiters.”
Willie Shaw said he was so close to getting the Stanford head coaching job in 1992 after Dennis Green left for the N.F.L. that he had met with the university president and that a team meeting and a news conference were scheduled to announce his appointment. Green recalled that Willie was “an eyelid away.”
But the sudden availability of Bill Walsh dashed that plan. As always, Willie Shaw did not become bitter, but rather moved on to the next stop.
“If I was on the committee, I would have hired Bill Walsh over me too,” he said.
As a Stanford receiver, David earned the nickname Coach Shaw for being a stickler with the underclassmen, and he even begged Walsh to call the play — a shallow cross known as 76X — that resulted in his first touchdown.
Still, Shaw insisted that he would not follow his father into coaching, and he nearly joined an asset allocation firm after graduation. But he felt a tug.
“I wasn’t ready to put on a tie,” he said.
Shaw took a job as a graduate assistant at Western Washington in 1995, and he fondly recalled earning $7,000 a year and eating nightly dinners of $3.95 teriyaki chicken.
After his first day on the practice field, it would have taken explosives to move Shaw to another profession.
Soon, he emulated his father’s style of teaching and articulating the most minute detail.
“I saw the allure and saw that this was something that you don’t necessarily choose to do,” Shaw said. “It’s something you do and you can’t stop doing.”
Rob Smith, the Western Washington coach at the time, said Shaw did not yell, listened in meetings and connected with the players individually. He stood out by not trying to stand out.
“It wasn’t about David Shaw,” said Smith, now the coach at Humboldt State. “It was about the job and the players with David. My guess is that he hasn’t changed.”
While at Western Washington, Shaw got an internship with the Philadelphia Eagles and impressed a young assistant coach named Jon Gruden.
Wide receiver Irving Fryar unintentionally taught Shaw a valuable coaching lesson during that camp.
Shaw shook Fyrar’s hand when the internship ended and told him he was going back to college coaching. Fryar could not believe that Shaw, who had tutored him on the nuances of the West Coast offense, was only 26.
“When you speak from a position of knowledge, you get people’s respect,” Shaw said.
He eventually joined Gruden with Oakland as a quality control coach and worked his way up to quarterbacks coach for the 2001 season, which ended with the Raiders’ loss in the controversial tuck-rule game against New England.
Shaw credits Gruden for teaching him to think like a play caller, especially after Gruden berated him for failing to think through a mock game plan he had drawn up.
Gruden, now an analyst for ESPN, remembered that Shaw had a quiet swagger. During training camp in 1999, when the Raiders cut receiver Dameane Douglas, a fourth-round draft pick out of California, Gruden recalled that Shaw said: “He went to Cal. What did you expect?”
As for Shaw’s future, Gruden said:
“He’s going to do an excellent job, just as he’s done there already. David Shaw wasn’t sitting there with his mouth shut and eyes closed. He deserves a lot of credit for where Stanford is.”
In his office, Shaw has a tissue box with pictures of a smirking Rex Ryan, Shaw was an assistant with the Baltimore Ravens. Shaw and the bombastic Ryan are opposites in personality, and the tissue box is a reminder of that.
“Be yourself,” said Shaw, acknowledging that he smiles whenever he sees Ryan’s pictures.
“And when something goes wrong or crazy, it reminds me of Rex saying, ‘Do you want to take a tissue and cry?’”
Despite his composed nature, Shaw can show emotion.
When Doug Baldwin was a freshman receiver at Stanford in 2007, the trainers held him out of a practice with a hamstring injury. But Baldwin joined a one-on-one drill anyway, so Shaw stopped practice and grabbed him by the jersey.
“I won’t repeat what he said,” Baldwin recalled with a laugh. “But I got the message.”
Although Shaw, unlike Harbaugh, is selective in showing his intensity, no one doubts his passion.
“The packages are different,” Bowlsby, the athletic director, said of Shaw and Harbaugh, “but the contents are the same.”
As Stanford’s offensive coordinator, Shaw worked closely with Luck, the starting quarterback since 2009.
Comparing his new coach with Harbaugh, Luck said Shaw would be a “little less eccentric and maybe a little less polarizing than the guy we had before.”
The former quarterback Rich Gannon, who had Shaw and Harbaugh as N.F.L. position coaches, said he did not expect any drop-off with Shaw in charge.
“I think the one guy who is really going to benefit is the quarterback,” Gannon said. “One thing David really does well is knowing what the quarterback needs.”
“David’s personality is what you see,” Kori Shaw said. “That’s how he is all the time. When something is exciting, he’ll say, ‘I’m excited.’ But not excitedly.”
Kori Shaw loves Stanford as much as David does. She has degrees in mechanical engineering, a bachelor’s from M.I.T. and a master’s from California.
On the side, she has studied Chinese, and in April she traveled to China to test her linguistic skills. Recently, she decided to spend more time with their three children: Keegan, 8, Carter, 6, and Gavin, 1 ½. A self-described closet nerd, Kori Shaw had worked as a model and at various Internet start-ups.
“In the football vernacular,” Bowlsby said, “David outkicked his coverage.”
Shaw has changed little since they met, his wife said, although he no longer has his pet snake, named Sade after his favorite singer, and rarely suggests Jack in the Box for dinner anymore. He is comfortable looking at sculptures in the Prado in Madrid, as he did on a family vacation this summer, and voraciously reading presidential biographies.
“He’s the kind of person,” she said, “when no one is looking he’ll still do the right thing.”
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In fact, I’m making David Shaw my number 1 candidate, go get him Reggie, he won’t be available for long.
January 12th, 2012 at 12:53 pm
949.hwnrdr Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 12:49 pm
947.RaiderDebo Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
934.hwnrdr Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
Schefter is reporting that Jeff Fisher is taking his time deciding because it is not about the money…its about winning!
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What the hell does Fisher know about winning??? Six winning seasons in 17 yrs. That guy’s claim to fame is that he had one of the few “we don’t fire coaches” jobs in the NFL. Great work if you can get it.
LOL…exactly! And only went to the AFC Championship what? Twice?
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In 17 years, you’d think they would have won the Super Bowl by accident at least once.
January 12th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
The Falcons are a strong-armed QB away from beating good teams for a change. They better sign Jamarcus before the bidding begins.
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Debo,
Russell > Ryan ???
January 12th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
Harbaugh layed the foundation down for Shaw.
+ he did have one of the top QB’s in the country
I’ll pass.
January 12th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
If you were to ask any QB coach, or position coach in the NFL that is aspiring to move up the NFL ranks, that they can move to an OC or even HC of a new team, with Carson Palmer as their QB, damn near every single one would jump to do it. And probably do it for a below-average salary.
If it were Jason Campbell, they would ask what the pay was, kick it around, and take a day to decide. Some would, some would’t.
If it were Jamarcus Russell, they would think it was a prank call.
January 12th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
944.SharkCatcher Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 12:46 pm
If the Heat can’t beat the clippers ..They can’t beat The Los Angeles Kobe’s
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It is getting ugly in LA. Everyone standing around watching Kobe hold the ball….yikes.
January 12th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
@Dutch
is Mark Davis “eye-candy” for female Raiders fans, as well?
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Good point, as another poster pointed out, the plus-size Lady-Raider fans love this man. Has anybody corroborated the rumor of Mark Davis’s vision of the Jumbo Raidertte cheering package being developed? I heard it will be deployed exclusively in the Black Hole and with the proper goggles, the fans cannot tell the difference…
January 12th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
In 17 years, you’d think they would have won the Super Bowl by accident at least once.
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Debo,
you’re talking to Raider fans here.
We haven’t won a Super Bowl in the last 28 years!
January 12th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
David Shaw should get some serious consideration! Let’s hope Reggie adds his name to the list.
my choices: David Shaw HC
Winston Moss DC
That would be a great combo.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Shaw_%28American_football%29
make it happen Reggie!
January 12th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
The Carson Palmer trade — orchestrated by Hue-bris — could quite possibly be remembered as the dumbest, most-selfish act in the history of professional sports. Seriously. Capitalizing on the power vacuum created by the death of an NFL legend, a first-time head coach, in a desperate attempt to pad his resume and back into the playoffs with a flawed team with zero chance of winning the Super Bowl, compromised the future of his organization by handing Mike Brown a fortune for a washed-up quarterback.— Jason whitlock
yep exactly
January 12th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
First and foremost Hugh was fired for his press Conf after the S.D. game when he threw everyone, but himself under the bus, and then he made things worse on Monday when he met the local media in Alameda, demanding more control, power and change to his way.
During the year at his press briefings he told the media all that goes wrong is thru him, saying “blame Coach Jackson not the players” , this was the mantra all season, until the last game it’s everyone but Hugh.
His late season lapse, was also a factor and his game management was also a factor.
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Dell, let’s say everything ended the same for the 2011 Oakland Raiders with the exception of one thing: let’s say JC went down and the Raiders went into a tail spin, yet went 4-1 to end, still finishing 8-8, but playing good football the last quarter + of the season, I think you could stomach the 8-8, you could stomach the tirades, and the shameless self promotion. But ending the season the way we did, more than any other factor, was what got Jackson canned. And deservedly so. Then when you pile all the other things on top, see ya.
January 12th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
Ryan = most overrated QB in the NFL
January 12th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
Just went to USA Today…..was the Marine pizzing on the terrorist the lead story? Nope. Was the debt hike the lead story? Nope. Was it the dead Iranian scientist? Nope.
Tim fkn Teblow is the main story.
WTF is going on?
January 12th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
The Jamarcus Russell bidding war, lol
His SI interview was the final straw for him.
He will NEVER get an invite anywhere, until he plays in the Arena league or some lower level thing first.
He sealed his fate.
January 12th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
Dell.
I’m over the Hue firing, water under the bridge, but it remains to be seen if it was the right move, I hope it was, but nobody knows for sure, not even Reggie McKenzie himself.
People can say all they want, bottom line is we don’t know, if we get better it was the right move, if it doesn’t work out as we all hope, it wasn’t, it’s that simple.
Forget Hue.
Get David Shaw in here.
January 12th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
as another poster pointed out, the plus-size Lady-Raider fans love this man. Has anybody corroborated the rumor of Mark Davis’s vision of the Jumbo Raidertte cheering package being developed? I heard it will be deployed exclusively in the Black Hole and with the proper goggles, the fans cannot tell the difference…
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@Dutch
is that why Jhill & JFB are always referring to the “elephant” package?
January 12th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
Dakota Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
944.SharkCatcher Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 12:46 pm
If the Heat can’t beat the clippers ..They can’t beat The Los Angeles Kobe’s
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It is getting ugly in LA. Everyone standing around watching Kobe hold the ball….yikes.
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Dj Mbenga needs to start taking more shots!
January 12th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
J Hill Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
please explain why we need a new stadium?
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I’m going to keep it simple and just say because the new owner wants one.
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That’s just fine as long as HE & the NFL pay for it. The day of having the City and tax-payers fund it are long gone NEVER to be seen again.
Would somebody give Mark Davis Edie DeBartello’s cell number. He’s got cash available and wants to build a stadium complex. that’d be a good marriage. I think he’s been 86′d by the Niners. He can upgrade his options by getting together with the Raiders.
January 12th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
Raider Dell Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
Be patient, we have 10 years of doing such, we are now in the process of evolving, to a status, almost all in this blog wanted for so long, a GM and structure to this ORG.
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Dell, I wouldn’t have included you, in the “almost all” category. Who knew?
January 12th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
967.Just Fire Baby Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
The Jamarcus Russell bidding war, lol
His SI interview was the final straw for him.
He will NEVER get an invite anywhere, until he plays in the Arena league or some lower level thing first.
He sealed his fate.
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After watching the BSPN Todd Marinovich special, that is exactly the path Jacrackhead is going to follow.
JaSizzurp = Black Todd Marinovich
January 12th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
If you were to ask any QB coach, or position coach in the NFL that is aspiring to move up the NFL ranks, that they can move to an OC or even HC of a new team, with Carson Palmer as their QB, damn near every single one would jump to do it. And probably do it for a below-average salary.
If it were Jason Campbell, they would ask what the pay was, kick it around, and take a day to decide. Some would, some would’t.
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this is pure speculation that isnt backed up by anything other than your own flawed thought process.
when palmer was available why didnt he get moved? there where plenty of teams that needed a qb? he was on the couch eating cheetos until hue jack got taken to the cleaners.
If it is true it is only more glaring evidence that the old way of thinking is also the new way, and needs to change.
we traded for palmer and got older, slower and more turnover prone at the qb. im still waiting to see this so called upgrade
youre funny
January 12th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
Forget Hue.
Get David Shaw in here
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interesting name drop to say the least. Shaw was a part of the Raiders org under Gruden (1998-2001) and he went to Baltimore when Gruden was traded to Tampa Bay.
He’s from San Diego and at 39yo I think would be the youngest HC in the NFL. Would have complete authority to assemble his staff (already has Wiz from Stanford)
January 12th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
DMAC Says:
Harbaugh layed the foundation down for Shaw.
+ he did have one of the top QB’s in the country
I’ll pass.
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You still have to do it, numerous replacements have failed with another man’s loaded team before.
If anything it’s much more pressure to follow the steps of a great coach.
Davis Shaw has been around the NFL for many years now, he was tutoring Pro Bowl NFL WR Irving Fryar on the West Coast Offense as a 26 year old intern.
This kid is going places and the window will close soon.
Hell, this guy could be the new Jon Gruden, minus the star attitude.
January 12th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
http://www.raidernationstation.com/ones_to_watch
Bowles.
January 12th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
Just like Reggie McKenzie jumped at the opportunity to become a GM with Carson Palmer as his QB.
Now Reggie is no Hue Jackson spin-master, he is an honest man and clearly was stating how he wouldn’t have paid that much for Carson in the presser.
But he dropped the Priesttj, “period” on us.
Carson Palmer is a good QB, and will be leading us to the playoff next year.
Only a vag would think otherwise.
January 12th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
what an idiot. You should ask what a person thinks about a certain issue before trying to paint them as a racist.
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This is how you come off dumb@ss when you make stupid arguments only for black qbs.
Your whole post was jibberish. QB’s dont hold that athleticm if they are running a spread/option offense where they run for 60/80yds a game. How long do RB’s last? People will need to draft a QB every 3 years if they ran that offense. Can you imagine injury prone McNabb in that offense? These QB’s transferred to the pro game just fine. They dont need a special offense because they are “athletic”.
Im sure Im not the only 31 yr old to know who the floaters are troll…
January 12th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
If you were to ask any QB coach, or position coach in the NFL that is aspiring to move up the NFL ranks, that they can move to an OC or even HC of a new team, with Carson Palmer as their QB, damn near every single one would jump to do it. And probably do it for a below-average salary.
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Oh, I don’t know about all that, Palmer is a 50-56 QB.
January 12th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
It is official.
Mistic1 has replaced Preisttj as the stubborn blowhard of the Blog.
Hell, even Priesttj would mix it up with different topics once in a while.
January 12th, 2012 at 1:06 pm
Marley, you dah shizz…solid work brutha mang
January 12th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
JaSizzurp = Black Todd Marinovich
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Boss, I disagree.
both 1st round draft blunders by Al Davis, but the comparison ends there.
Todd had a severe drug addiction. JaMarcus had a candy bar & cough syrup addiction
Plus I think Todd passed for 300 yards once
January 12th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
Priest wasn’t beyond admitting when he was wrong but argued alot about it till you provided proof. Not a bad guy, just preached his views without doing the leg work
January 12th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
Still think Mark Davis looks like the guy on the Dutch Boy paint cans !!!!
January 12th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
Lance, zero HC experience – Canned in year 2 with dramatic overhead projector PC
Pimphand, zero HC experience – Booted outa there in year 2
Huellywood, Fired after year ONE after showing true snake colors
I dont want to see anymore PROJECTS hired, give me a proven damn HC, if nobody of that caliber is available, I guess Winston Moss will have to do.
January 12th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
This blog is NOT better minus Priest!
January 12th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
Boss,
excuse me?
Cable was a HC at Idaho!
January 12th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
What the hell happened to TJ the priest. He seems to be MIA for quite awhile now. What’s the story with his disappearance?
His “Inside contacts” would be invaluable now with the new hierarchy in-place.
Come home TJ, we miss your interactions – REALLY!
January 12th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
McKenzie is a promising GM, who jumped to a job with Carson as the QB. If the Raiders go 5-11 the next two years, that will be a major blow to McKenzie’s career path.
He will bring in promising coaching talent from around the league, and Palmer will be the face of the franchise next season.
And we will still be playing football this time next season. I have never been so confident of our playoff chances next season since I have been bloggin on here.
January 12th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
Raider Nation Station was the ONLY one to point to the Russell / Marinovich thing BEFORE the draft!
Said we wouldn’t take the flyer with the #1 overal because we learned our lesson with Marinovich.
Sheesh, if only…
Coulda had Megatron.
Oh well, we wouldn;t have had anyone to throw to him anyway.
Didn’t get a real QB till Palmer
January 12th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
I miss priesttj. At least his takes were only a paragraph or two….these 40,000 work diatribes by Mistic1 are take too much time to scroll past. Mistic1, you are going to get sued for contributing to all of our carpel tunnel syndromes.
January 12th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
thought priest lost a bet, something to the effect if he lost he would leave this blog for ..oh hell i dont remember how long.
January 12th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
Raider Nation Station was the ONLY one to point to the Russell / Marinovich thing BEFORE the draft!
Said we wouldn’t take the flyer with the #1 overal because we learned our lesson with Marinovich.
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we should have listened to NorCal Bob !!!
January 12th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
The phrase “JaMarcus Russell bidding war” is one of the funniest things I’ve read in awhile.
Thanks for the lulz.
January 12th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
McKenzie is a promising GM, who jumped to a job with Carson as the QB.
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Bullschit assertion right off the bat.
January 12th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
989. We got into it over Bresnahan’s prevent D and he took the side that Bresnahan was NOT calling prevent Ds to cause those long TD drives.
Pointed out 4 man rush IS a prevent D.
He didn’t know realize that. Didn;t hear much from him after that. Someone said hes on another blog. Must be hell.
As ridiculous, racist, homophobic, political and infuriating as this blog can be, it ain’t boring…
January 12th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
I am peronally looking forward to the Mark Davis era.
He is clearly much more media-friendly, much more easy-going, and not as big of an ego as his old man.
But he is still Al Davis’ son, you know he will power-trip on someone.
January 12th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
983.RaiderRockstar Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
JaSizzurp = Black Todd Marinovich
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Boss, I disagree.
both 1st round draft blunders by Al Davis, but the comparison ends there.
Todd had a severe drug addiction. JaMarcus had a candy bar & cough syrup addiction
Plus I think Todd passed for 300 yards once
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Both lazy, both possessed great arms, both had a penchant for partying, both booted after year 3, although Jablubber was a more expensive disaster and biggest bust in nfl history
January 12th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
Ok count me in the David Shaw group too. But I think his wife is wayyy too smart for Oakland though. Stanford, MIT, and Cal degrees with studying Chinese and modeling on the side. Holy cow. I think she has everything covered.
January 12th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
Hitler reacts to the firing of Hue Jackson – Hilarious!
• http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=kTV7O7TVNh0
January 12th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
1000
January 12th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
And we’re almost at 1,000 comments. Time for a new post, Cork!
January 12th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
Priest checked in to update in his cousin McGlockton’s funeral.
Priest said he was going to shake this blog because he thought the blog was being invaded by (inset choice words he used).
Pretty sure he’s still lurking.
January 12th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
damn
January 12th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
Bullschit assertion right off the bat.
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What QB’s are under contrat currently? What type of draft picks do we have?
Thank-you.
Carson is the QB, no question about it.
January 12th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
But he is still Al Davis’ son, you know he will power-trip on someone.
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I dont see it. I think we see a son that has seen enough of his father’s antics to say nah we’re not gonna do that. Congrats on the Chico Alumnus thing. I think most were fearful of Mark making a fool of himself before the presser. He charmed us pretty good in that presser.
January 12th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
I dont want to see anymore PROJECTS hired, give me a proven damn HC, if nobody of that caliber is available, I guess Winston Moss will have to do.
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What has Winston Moss proven?.
That he can coach Inside Linebackers?.
Because he’s not even the LB coach over there, Kevin Greene coaches OLB, Winston just deals with the inside guys, A. J. Hawk is nothing special and Desmond Bishop is a beast, so 1 out of 2 is ok, I guess.
No disrespect for Winston Moss, he may be a leader of men, hence the Assistant Head Coach title, but when the Packers needed a DC he was right there and was passed over, he also campaigned for the Philly DC job last year and didn’t even get interviewed).
Point is, those GB coaches are extremely unproven and while Winston Moss may become a good Head Coach because of his leadership skills, he’ll need some damn fine Coordinators who can call a game.
January 12th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
Just like Reggie McKenzie jumped at the opportunity to become a GM with Carson Palmer as his QB.
Now Reggie is no Hue Jackson spin-master, he is an honest man and clearly was stating how he wouldn’t have paid that much for Carson in the presser.
But he dropped the Priesttj, “period” on us.
Carson Palmer is a good QB, and will be leading us to the playoff next year.
Only a vag would think otherwise.
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JFB dont be a simpleton, oh wait you cant help it.
1.) what gm is going to trash the starting qb? of course he says he is good he made need to trade him and cant afford to let his stock drop furhter by trashing him, or lose leverage by letting the entire world know that he wants to trade him. Think for a second, i know its difficult for you.
2.) Big mack wanted to be a gm, he has along history with the davis family, and organization. If you were the qb he would still have taken the gig. black men know that front office exec gigs are hard to come by so they wont pass it one is there for the taking.
3.) After watching rodgers the last few years, and seeing palmer in person panic when breathed on an lob a soft hostess snowball floater into triple coverage, I dobut highly that big mack is sole on plamer and his mind bending 16 picks (12 dropped, two returned for tds) in 8 starts at this point. he will have to earn it.
4.) you left out the most important part of his quote whan he answered the question, conviently and predictably, he said ” i like my own players”. Palmer has been demoted from the bungle with the free ride and golden ticket to stop gap.
If it happens now, or next saeson carson will be moved, especially if he stinks it up this year like he did last year.
for the record why do you like qbs that throw more picks than tds and looses (palmer grads), yet dislike the qb that protects the ball and wins? Dont answer it doesnt matter, im sure big mack is the opposite
January 12th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
996.KoolKell Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
McKenzie is a promising GM, who jumped to a job with Carson as the QB.
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Bullschit assertion right off the bat.
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Agreed. The inference during the presser is Checkers was pizzed at Hue about giving away the picks. Checkers said he “likes his picks”.
Was a little shocked at how BOTH of them off handedly bashed their starting QB.
They KNOW hes a Hue-man (don’t steal THIS one Steve) and wouldn’t be surprised to see him replaced.
I wonder if Reggie is really going to let his Coach hire who he wants?
Wouldn’t it be something if the new Coach hired Hue to be OC?
January 12th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
McKenzie is a promising GM, who jumped to a job with Carson as the QB.
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Your bullschit assertion is that Carson Palmer had anything to do with his decision to come here.
January 12th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
988.RaiderRockstar Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
Boss,
excuse me?
Cable was a HC at Idaho!
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I hope youre joking
Proven NFL HC experience is what Im after
If I wanted someone from the college ranks, the last place I would look would be Idaho. The only mediocre thing to come out of that place is their potatoes and that is it.
January 12th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
Bringing in some quality backups to push Carson will be a great idea. But unless we do something splashy (not happening) there is nobody available anywhere near as good a QB as Carson.
Seriously, he walked into the QB meeting room last year and saw Kyle Prejean and Terrll Pryor.
He probably could have focused better by himself.
Some new quality backups will help Palmer, not hurt him.
January 12th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
1009. Have no illusions, Campbell made bonehead plays too BUT he had Darren McFadden AND a healthy-ish Jacoby Ford AND Zach Miller.
Give Carson a shot and he’ll light this mo fo up at the start of the season.
January 12th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
Ok count me in the David Shaw group too. But I think his wife is wayyy too smart for Oakland though. Stanford, MIT, and Cal degrees with studying Chinese and modeling on the side. Holy cow. I think she has everything covered.
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Yeah, sounds like Willie’s kid did very well for himself.
January 12th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
1014. B4 U hurt yoursleves pointing out Miller went to Seattle for 2011, I know, I meant Campbell’s performance B4.
In 11, he had healthier options than Palmer. U add DMC with Carson and shizz gun get reel wit a quiknez
January 12th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
Read this reply to another poster on…ahem, Bleacher Report. lol It’s about the possibility of Gruden returning. Interesting to say the least or this guy is a complete and utter douche bag. I mean, Who would go around making these kind of things up and for what?
Erik,
Once again, my evidence is in a text message from a player following a conversation with Mark Davis. If you want to call “BS” then call it, but I am not revealing my source to prove myself to you or anyone else that reads this, for fear of losing that source. If I am right I do expect you to find me and apologize, and if I am wrong, I will eat crow all day long.
January 12th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
1014.Just Fire Baby Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
Bringing in some quality backups to push Carson will be a great idea. But unless we do something splashy (not happening) there is nobody available anywhere near as good a QB as Carson.
Seriously, he walked into the QB meeting room last year and saw Kyle Prejean and Terrll Pryor.
He probably could have focused better by himself.
Some new quality backups will help Palmer, not hurt him.
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Brady Quinn!
January 12th, 2012 at 1:25 pm
1008.Bob Marley Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
I dont want to see anymore PROJECTS hired, give me a proven damn HC, if nobody of that caliber is available, I guess Winston Moss will have to do.
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What has Winston Moss proven?.
That he can coach Inside Linebackers?.
Because he’s not even the LB coach over there, Kevin Greene coaches OLB, Winston just deals with the inside guys, A. J. Hawk is nothing special and Desmond Bishop is a beast, so 1 out of 2 is ok, I guess.
No disrespect for Winston Moss, he may be a leader of men, hence the Assistant Head Coach title, but when the Packers needed a DC he was right there and was passed over, he also campaigned for the Philly DC job last year and didn’t even get interviewed).
Point is, those GB coaches are extremely unproven and while Winston Moss may become a good Head Coach because of his leadership skills, he’ll need some damn fine Coordinators who can call a game.
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If no proven NFL HC is available, and the only one I would consider is Del Rio, then I would want someone like Winston Moss who has some synergy with the GM. He still would be considered a project IMO, but one that will at least be on the same page with the GM and will also pry some other D coaches from GB.
Chucky is proven, but he would come at too steep a price and would never agree to be HC only with Reggie running the show.
January 12th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
What about the head coach at USC? I understand he’s coached in the NFL before, and his father’s a longtime NFL DC.
Yes, I kid. :-p
January 12th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
Your bullschit assertion is that Carson Palmer had anything to do with his decision to come here.
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Well he is here and he knows the roster.
It certainly didn’t prevent him from coming here.
Palmer will impress next year, and McKenzie’s origanizational polish will rejuvenate a guy who has only worked for Mike Brown, Al Davis and Hue Jackson.
January 12th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
How many stories did you hear around Oakland that Gruden was LOVED by everyone in the Raider buliding, but the employees were scared of Al finding out about it.
If Davis Jr did in fact get slapped around in public by Davis Sr, it wouldn’t surprise me at all for him to give his dad the middle finger and bring Gruden back, lol.
January 12th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
ElkGRaider Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
what an idiot. You should ask what a person thinks about a certain issue before trying to paint them as a racist.
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This is how you come off dumb@ss when you make stupid arguments only for black qbs.
Your whole post was jibberish. QB’s dont hold that athleticm if they are running a spread/option offense where they run for 60/80yds a game. How long do RB’s last? People will need to draft a QB every 3 years if they ran that offense. Can you imagine injury prone McNabb in that offense? These QB’s transferred to the pro game just fine. They dont need a special offense because they are “athletic”.
Im sure Im not the only 31 yr old to know who the floaters are troll…
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if you can read i suggest, ARE YOU STILL A SLAVE? by Shaharazd Ali.
You dont know very much about football do you? You dont need to have the qb run often, a handful of called runs will do the job in the spread option. Just enough to present a threat keep the defense in base formation and open passing lanes. Cam doesnt have run plays called 15 times a game, only 3-4 times a game. That way when he puts the ball i the running backs belly the defense must honor the fact that cam might keep it. most of cams running yards are scrambling yards.
I didnt say the nebarska tommie frazier option offense. do your self a favor and watch some college football. Check out oregon, clemson, and air force this is what I mean when i reference option football.
January 12th, 2012 at 1:28 pm
Was McKenzie in GB when Gruden was there?
January 12th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
David Shaw.
Make it happen McKenzie.
January 12th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
1015. Great pictures of them with their families decades apart
January 12th, 2012 at 1:30 pm
for the record why do you like qbs that throw more picks than tds and looses (palmer grads), yet dislike the qb that protects the ball and wins? Dont answer it doesnt matter, im sure big mack is the opposite
1010.GoodOle00 Says:
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Wow! Can’t wait to hear your answer to this JFB. Take your time.
January 12th, 2012 at 1:30 pm
He may have been…since 94 right?
January 12th, 2012 at 1:30 pm
It certainly didn’t prevent him from coming here.
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The only thing that would have prevented him from coming here, would have been the presence of Al Davis.
January 12th, 2012 at 1:30 pm
J Hill Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 1:28 pm
Was McKenzie in GB when Gruden was there?
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Yup. Again, I wouldn’t terribly object if Gruden came back, but I’m in no way lobbying for it. Former head coaches returning to their previous teams almost never works well (the most successful in the modern era was Minnesota’s Bud Grant, who returned after Les Steckel went 3-13, went 7-9 himself, then re-retired and handed the job to Jerry Burns).
January 12th, 2012 at 1:30 pm
1024. Mac was there for 18 yrs?
January 12th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
Bullschit assertion right off the bat.
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What QB’s are under contrat currently? What type of draft picks do we have?
Thank-you.
Carson is the QB, no question about it.
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hahahahahaha
carson is a stop gap qb, im certain big mack will be drafting a qb in 2013. lets go geno smith!!!!
January 12th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
Carson Palmer is a nice passer, not a winner.
January 12th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
@Mistic
You do realize that McNabb felt it insulting to be labeled an athletic QB! He wanted to be a pocket passer. Maybe you know better than McNabb…
“When I hear running quarterback, that sort of upsets me at times. That takes away from my drop-back abilities, play-actioning and getting the ball downfield. I think anytime you talk about how athletic a quarterback is and you continue to talk about his running ability, you sort of forget about him passing the ball.”
http://articles.philly.com/2000-11-30/sports/25612061_1_donovan-mcnabb-true-pocket-steve-mcnair
January 12th, 2012 at 1:34 pm
Callahan went to the Cowgirls. Good for him. 2nd Dumbest Team in America, but a job is a job!
January 12th, 2012 at 1:34 pm
1030.RaiderDuck Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 1:30 pm
J Hill Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 1:28 pm
Was McKenzie in GB when Gruden was there?
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Yup. Again, I wouldn’t terribly object if Gruden came back, but I’m in no way lobbying for it. Former head coaches returning to their previous teams almost never works well (the most successful in the modern era was Minnesota’s Bud Grant, who returned after Les Steckel went 3-13, went 7-9 himself, then re-retired and handed the job to Jerry Burns).
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Never gonna happen, chucky is power hungry and will command more $$$ than BSPN just paid him in order to leave his current MNF post, which is more than $5 mil / yr.
Reggie just booted a power hungry HC, he will not be hiring another one “trust me when I tell you this”.
January 12th, 2012 at 1:35 pm
Carson Palmer is about our only hope from preventing Tebow from dominating this division for the next 4-5 years.
January 12th, 2012 at 1:36 pm
Listening to McKenzie’s thoughts about talent, Coaches & Players, he seems to be more interested in the intangibles. Just the opposite of Al Davis.
January 12th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
Former head coaches returning to their previous teams almost never works well (the most successful in the modern era was Minnesota’s Bud Grant, who returned
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True.
January 12th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 1:36 pm
Listening to McKenzie’s thoughts about talent, Coaches & Players, he seems to be more interested in the intangibles. Just the opposite of Al Davis.
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Yup. Al would never have picked Stefen Wisniewski if not for the “legacy” aspect, but Baby Wiz is totally McKenzie’s type of player.
January 12th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
Carson Palmer is a nice passer, not a winner.
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Well said Kell. A agree.
January 12th, 2012 at 1:39 pm
1033.KoolKell Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
Carson Palmer is a nice passer, not a winner.
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Can’t say I’m at all comfortable with Carson in a two-minute/clutch situation. Would have my eyes closed worried about a pick or watching him slide a yard short of the 1st down marker like he did agaisnt Denver. In clutch situations, I’d much rather have JC. Hell, I’d rather see Jamarcus in those situations.
January 12th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
1038. People finally starting to get it. We saw the death of Al Davis football during that press conference.
Mark is doing everything completely opposite of Al and destroying the Legacy Al built.
Some feel this is exactly what needed to happen.
We’ll find out over the next few seasons…
January 12th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
Palmer is not perfect.
But quit biotching about him unless you can name an available QB that we can realistically get who is better than him..
Other than those who are delusional and think Jason Campbell is a better QB that Carson Palmer, can anyone name a QB we can get for 2012 that is better than Palmer?
Anyone? Anyone?
January 12th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
@Mistic
You do realize that McNabb felt it insulting to be labeled an athletic QB! He wanted to be a pocket passer. Maybe you know better than McNabb…
“When I hear running quarterback, that sort of upsets me at times. That takes away from my drop-back abilities, play-actioning and getting the ball downfield. I think anytime you talk about how athletic a quarterback is and you continue to talk about his running ability, you sort of forget about him passing the ball.”
http://articles.philly.com/2000-11-30/sports/25612061_1_donovan-mcnabb-true-pocket-steve-mcnair
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This only back up my claim, that the black qb faces a ridiculous double standard. rememeber before the class of 99 it was rare for black qbs to even get a shot, they were and still are often labeld “athletes” while guys like steve young rodger stauback elway tarkenton enjoyed the freindlier moniker of mobile qb.
Because a guy has extreme athleticism doesnt negate his ability to drop back and pass from the pocket. yet it is always set up that way when discussing black qb’s. macnabb is one of the guys that helped break down the false hood that athletic black qbs couldnt be pocket passers. In fact he was so intent on doing tis that he neglected his own running abilyt at times for fear of people saying he couldnt read from the pocket. as a matter of fact that was the knock on him pre draft and early in his career, he couldnt be a pocket passer.
Either way only now are we seeing evidence of the stubborn nfl being somewhat willing to change the offense to suit the players skill, and after tebow and newton im hoping more nfl execs and coaches will follow suit, it is long over due.
I have been watching football for over 30 years and the story has been very slow to change
January 12th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/12/could-carson-palmer-decide-to-quit-again/
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Very interesting.
January 12th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 1:39 pm
Can’t say I’m at all comfortable with Carson in a two-minute/clutch situation.
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The Palmer led Raiders were the best two minute end of the lst half team in the league last year. Get your info right.
January 12th, 2012 at 1:43 pm
1033.KoolKell Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
Carson Palmer is a nice passer, not a winner.
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Carson Palmer has played his entire career with the Cincinatti Bungholes not the 1927 New York Yankees. sheesh.
January 12th, 2012 at 1:44 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 1:35 pm
Carson Palmer is about our only hope from preventing Tebow from dominating this division for the next 4-5 years.
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I doubt our newly appointed stop gap qb will be here that long
January 12th, 2012 at 1:44 pm
1037. Wouldn’t put a bid for Matt Flynn past Mac. Not a bad move for a back up, but in FA Flynn’s going to command starter prices.
January 12th, 2012 at 1:44 pm
Raider Head Coaching hiring their own staffs???? Really different!
It allows everyone to have skin in the game.
January 12th, 2012 at 1:45 pm
Palmer is the best QB since Gannon and maybe, even better than Gannon who was a system passer.
We found that out against the Bucs.
January 12th, 2012 at 1:45 pm
Take a look at the people being hired these days…
Mike Mularkey and Romeo Crennel are good Coaches getting 2nd chances, but hardly exciting choices.
Gruden will bid his time and come back for a ton of money in a couple of years and it won’t be here, maybe to replace Garrett in Dallas.
January 12th, 2012 at 1:45 pm
Dakota Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
Palmer is not perfect.
But quit biotching about him unless you can name an available QB that we can realistically get who is better than him..
Other than those who are delusional and think Jason Campbell is a better QB that Carson Palmer, can anyone name a QB we can get for 2012 that is better than Palmer?
Anyone? Anyone?
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Ask Reggie McKenzie.
January 12th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 1:39 pm
1033.KoolKell Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
Carson Palmer is a nice passer, not a winner.
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Can’t say I’m at all comfortable with Carson in a two-minute/clutch situation. Would have my eyes closed worried about a pick or watching him slide a yard short of the 1st down marker like he did agaisnt Denver. In clutch situations, I’d much rather have JC. Hell, I’d rather see Jamarcus in those situations.
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i have to agree with you guys on this, i held my breath every time he dropped back to pass!!! he sucked in two minute offense, see the botched end of half feild goal attempt when we were already in jano’s range.
The guy has a million dollar arm and a 50 cent head
January 12th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
Dakota Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
Palmer is not perfect.
But quit biotching about him unless you can name an available QB that we can realistically get who is better than him..
Other than those who are delusional and think Jason Campbell is a better QB that Carson Palmer, can anyone name a QB we can get for 2012 that is better than Palmer?
Anyone? Anyone?
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There isn’t any. And we got him for a bargain price. No one has answered me the question I keep posing which is how much would it cost to get Eli Manning right now?
Watching Palmer play every game, most of them live, he was everything you would want from an overall number one. As the season wore on his protection faded a bit. If we keep the playmakers we have, and build up the interior of line, Carson Palmer is absolutely the least of our worries.
January 12th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
Guys,like misty eyes will never accept Palmer because he’s the one who replaced j Campbell. .. who will be outta here very soon. .. I would take Palmer any day over Campbell. . He stinks… let it go already misty eyes…let it go.. Reggie already said Palmer will be our qb going Into this offseason.. he never even mentioned your boyfriend. .Campbell as a possibility. .lol
January 12th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
MR used to come here every day and every night spewing his hatred towards Al Davis.Now we have this bigot who comes here every day and night doing the same thing with our QB.Pathetic.
January 12th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
GoodOle00 Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 1:44 pm
1037. Wouldn’t put a bid for Matt Flynn past Mac. Not a bad move for a back up, but in FA Flynn’s going to command starter prices.
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And are you getting Matt Hasselbeck, Matt Cassel, Scott Mitchell, or Kevin Kolb? It’s a huge unknown.
January 12th, 2012 at 1:48 pm
1047.Seymour Bush Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 1:39 pm
Can’t say I’m at all comfortable with Carson in a two-minute/clutch situation.
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The Palmer led Raiders were the best two minute end of the lst half team in the league last year. Get your info right.
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Was talking about the end of the game, not halftime. But since you brought it up, you must be talking about the SD game, right? You know, the one where victory meant the playoffs? LOL!!
January 12th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
I can recall Palmer making great drives and scoring TDs to put us ahed with time waning in the 4th quarter only to see our D give up 90+ yd TD drives to lose the game
Palmer’s fine.
January 12th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
I think the Raiders is a famous franchise and great location that many coaches would love to work here. They were just afraid of having Al meddling with them in the past. Now that Al is gone. Dont be surprised at how many quality candidates try to get the job here.
1. A storied franchise. We aint Detroit.
2. Good living location. This aint Detroit.
3. Good roster of offensive talents. It is much better coming knowing you only need to fix one side of the ball.
January 12th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
I hate to say it but I held my breath everytime Campbell dropped back to pass as well…
January 12th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
1060. So What? Wasn’t Palmers fault we lost to SD. The D never even forced a PUNT!
January 12th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
1044.Dakota Says:
January 12th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
Palmer is not perfect.
But quit biotching about him unless you can name an available QB that we can realistically get who is better than him..
Other than those who are delusional and think Jason Campbell is a better QB that Carson Palmer, can anyone name a QB we can get for 2012 that is better than Palmer?
Anyone? Anyone?
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Some People here want Matt Flynn (Kolb & Cassell 2.0) to come in based on a two game sample… Carson is who he is, a gun slinger, much like Favre will chuck it and get it picked every once in a while, but unless you can trade Carson for Peyton Manning, there is nobody else available in that category and no JC is not in his category sorry to disappoint.
January 12th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
new post
January 12th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
trade the farm to get RGIII?
January 12th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
The same people who are thrashing Palmer now are the ones who dissapeared for a few weeks during our winning streak…they don’t give an alternative to Palmer because They Do t have one… its only the hatred they have for Palmer… except debo. . He nominates jablubber to make his awesome comeback to the silver n black..Lmao. .
January 12th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
Peyton might just be available via free agency.
Indy has a one million buyout clause.
January 12th, 2012 at 1:57 pm
speaking of buyout clauses;
Corkran stated yesterday the Raiders have out clauses on Wimbley, Huff, & McClain; Raiders need to implement those if there are no trade partners or restructured contracts.
As for Seymour, Routt, & Kelley we do not have any out clauses.
January 12th, 2012 at 2:08 pm
J. Hill,
Tell me how you could actually prevent “that gangster crap” from attending Raider games in LA?
You can’t stop anyone with the money from buying a ticket (unless you’ve proof they are a security threat.)
I seriously doubt that a new stadium in LA could be sold out with only season ticket holders. (One reason for wanting a new stadium is to increase the seating capacity.)
Even if, in a dream world, a franchise could sell out to only season ticket holders, there’d be plenty of scalpers who’d sell to anyone for a buck.
You think gangstas wouldn’t flock to that place? It would only take a few problems in the beginning to prevent people from buying season tickets, and LA would be back to blackouts, the kiss of death to a franchise.
If Mark is interested in the long-term health of the Raiders, it’s out of state or here, not LA.
January 12th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
“That’s a loaded question,” Jackson said. “It’s not about competition. One thing you must know about me is I am going to play the best guy.
regarding qb’s Palmer & Campbell
[copy/pasted from cct's competition]
Reggie McKenzie at the press conference; there will be competition at every position.
January 12th, 2012 at 2:10 pm
You dont know very much about football do you? You dont need to have the qb run often, a handful of called runs will do the job in the spread option. Just enough to present a threat keep the defense in base formation and open passing lanes. Cam doesnt have run plays called 15 times a game, only 3-4 times a game. That way when he puts the ball i the running backs belly the defense must honor the fact that cam might keep it. most of cams running yards are scrambling yards.
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Ooooooooooooh…so they only run “3-4″ times a game. We just want them to be a thrrrrrrrrreeeeeat to run. I see. Im sure defenses wont adjust to THAT awe inspiring offense…
Sarcasm…obviously (anybody else gonna miss saying that word?).
January 12th, 2012 at 2:10 pm
Palmer will be traded to Seattle, if the Raiders can either resign Campbell or Flynn.
January 12th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
Of course, if Mark is interested in sell-outs in LA and of ridding the franchise of the gangsta followers, he could resurrect the feather logo of the old Buccaneers, perhaps placing it on the side opposite the Pirate and eye patch, and he could change the colors from silver and black to white and sherbet, the old Buc’s colors, or maybe to pink and white, or lavender and white, or perhaps best yet, to a rainbow of colors.
Then, market to gays and lesbians, perfect for the Hollywood, West Hollywood, SoCal liberal progressive set.
The gay guys would love watching the players. Lesbians would love the football. They’d have THEIR TEAM, and the 2.5-4.0% of gay Americans would have their first major sports franchise marketed for them.
It’s worked for lots of cruise ship lines–marketing all gay cruises with Rosie and such.
Gays from all over America would probably buy LA Raider tickets in the heartland of gay American, California.
You never know. It would certainly take care of the the problem of gangstas wanting to be associated with the Raiders.
LOL.
January 12th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
Addendum: what used to be called the Dinah Shore Classic in Rancho Mirage, a lady’s tournament, has been for years now an annual meeting place for lesbians. They come from all over the country. It began since it’s estimated that about 1 out of 4 LPGA golfers is a lesbian.
We used to go there until it became overwhelming. Straights, it seems, are the minority there, so maybe I am wrong when I said that “the 2.5-4% of gay Americans would have their first major sports franchise” if the Raiders went Rainbow.
January 12th, 2012 at 4:33 pm
Who won the MUP?
January 12th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
hue said the right things
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