Madden on his role in McKenzie hiring
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Friday, January 13th, 2012 at 11:06 am in Oakland Raiders.
Raiders coach John Madden talked about his role sitting in with owner Mark Davis during the interview of Raiders general manager Reggie McKenzie on his KCBS radio spot on Wednesday:
Q: Isn’t this the first time in team history someone other than Al Davis is the Raiders GM?
Madden: They had close to a general manager when Bruce Allen was there and Jon Gruden was the coach. That was a time that Al was spending a lot of time in court, and I think Bruce Allen was kind of the acting general manager and go-between with Al being in court and Jon Gruden the coach.
Q: Your role in sitting down with Mark Davis in McKenzie interview? A lengthy conversation . . . six hours?
Madden: You have to have at least that much. My part wasn’t a big part. Mark was going to interview Reggie by himself, this wasn’t a two-way thing. He just asked me to sit in on it and so I did. I sat in on it and I kind of said to myself, self, before you go in there don’t talk too much, as I’m wont to do. The next thing I know I’m up there drawing on the board. So I really wanted to discipline myself to kind of sit on the side and, for the most part, shut up, and that’s what I did. I’m not saying that I was making any decisions or doing anything. I was sitting there, and there was the interview, and the discussion was primarily between Mark and Reggie.
Q: Not out of line with what you’re doing with your life at this point. You’re the sage in the room. You’ve been there . . .
Madden: Yeah, and been with the Raiders and been with Mark Davis, I mean, I’ve known Mark Davis all his life, and that was a place to go, and I was there. It kind of made sense. He just wanted to make sure that when he was talking, asking questions, that he didn’t miss anything. And he didn’t. He was prepared. I was very impressed with Mark. Mark kind of knew what he wanted. He knew who his guy was. His guy was Reggie McKenzie, and he just wanted to kind of have one last talk before he made that decision and everything was impressive and he made the decision.
Q: You approved of selection, what do you like about McKenzie as GM?
Madden: Most of the recommendation came from Ron Wolf. Ron Wolf hired Reggie originally. Reggie’s been with the Green Bay Packers for 17 years, and he was hired there by Ron Wolf, and Ron Wolf kind of got him started in scouting and brought him up through the ranks, so it was Ron’s recommendation and Ron, working with him, watching him in work. Ron still lives part time in Green Bay. Ron’s son works with Reggie. So there was a real knowledge there, a lot more, obviously than I have, so that’s where the knowledge of Reggie McKenzie really came from was through Ron Wolf to Mark..
Q: People want to find people they can work with . . is it about the football, the Xs and Os, or something other than that?
Madden: He wanted his guy. Like Reggie said he wanted his guy as coach, Mark wanted his guy in the organization in the football part of it, and really what he needed was a guy who was going to do the things that his dad did. And Al Davis was very heavily involved in everything, as everyone knows, but heavily involved in personnel, and scouting and signing, the salary cap and all those things. In essence, Mark had to hire someone to do the job that his dad did. And so this is kind of his guy in football and his guy running football operations, which is scouting, college scouting, pro scouting, all personnel, free agents, signing players, and then the coach, coaching ‘em, the whole thing, and he wanted someone that he could just give that to, and that guy was Reggie McKenzie.
Q: McKenzie said, I like big and strong, always will, I like speed, too. That’s not going to change. . .
Madden: That’s what you go for. That was always our thing. When you’re not sure, you get to that point in a draft or signing free agents where they’re not going to have everything, so you don’t start giving in to mediocrity and just saying, well this guy was a good little player, he’s this or that, you say, OK, we don’t know these guys and if we’re not sure they can really make it, let’s go for two things. He either has to be big or strong, or he has to be fast. And then if you hit on a guy, you’ve got a big, strong guy that can play or you’ve got a real fast guy that can play. You don’t want to compromise those two things.
Q: Like the way Mark Davis handled the news conference, impressed that he said he’s his own man and will be different from his dad . ..
Madden: Mark, instead of being hands-on, he’s an observer, and he’s a good observer. He kinds of sits and watches and listens and takes time to make a decision. That was the thing after Al passed away a lot of people want to talk to Mark, what are you going to do? What’s the thing? And Mark wasn’t ready to talk because he wasn’t ready to do anything. And he couldn’t do anything. When he could do something, at the end of the season, he went and he did it and I think that was a smart approach. Early, he had to make some decisions on the Carson Palmer thing, because that happened right away, but other than that, he could just sit and observe and think about what he wanted to do. And he observed a lot and put a lot of thought into it and then he came up with Reggie McKenzie.
Q: Taking an organization dominated by one man, now his son’s in charge and a general manager, everyone must be wrestling with the cultural change, saying, what do we do now?
Madden: That’s why he hired Reggie McKenzie. He’s going to put an organization together and I think it’s going to be structured around the personnel part and getting good players. It’s all about players, and we can talk about this thing and that thing and having good cheerleaders and all that stuff, and that’s all nice, but you’ve got to have players. If you have players, you’re probably going to win and if you don’t have players, you’re not going to win. So I think that’s going to be a big thing with them now is they’re going to go out and get the best players, and if they don’t have ‘em, they’re going to keep trying until they get them.
Q: You suggesting Raiderettes aren’t worth a half-point at any home game?
Madden: No, they’re not. Or are any of the other things, the scoreboard, making noise, any of that other stuff doesn’t count if you don’t have players.
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January 13th, 2012 at 11:08 am
raider nation station
January 13th, 2012 at 11:10 am
DeuceDeuce Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 11:05 am
Theres a symbol for being born again? lol.. Like a logo…? lol
Again you all are reffering to Religious rituals and Religious mentalities.
Read up on Justin the Martyr.
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True indeed bra, that is all. These religios or rituals, do not have anything to do with the average persons spirituality or their relationship with their creator. The history is fascinating though
January 13th, 2012 at 11:10 am
DMAC Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 11:04 am
hwnrdr Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 11:00 am
684.GoodOle00 Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 10:59 am
Yeah, just completely discount the facts.
Thats whats wrong with faider fans.
Whoa…did you just call your team Faiders?
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Dudes a whiner fan trying to promote some weak ass website in here everyday.
Be careful Hwrndr, he an angry, pissed off little man.
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a whiner fan promoting his faider site! lol! too much!
JEFF FISHER SIGNS WITH RAMS
January 13th, 2012 at 11:12 am
Madden -
“It’s all about players, and we can talk about this thing and that thing and having good cheerleaders and all that stuff, and that’s all nice, but you’ve got to have players.”
Uhhh, this sounds like he was talking about Herrera.
January 13th, 2012 at 11:13 am
DMAC Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 11:08 am
GoodOle00 Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 11:04 am
So DMC, how about Millens’ great picks b4 Megatron? Gonna give him credit for that too?
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I’ll answer that so you can finally shut your little trap.
Never said he he was a great GM or that he didn’t fk up some other picks….
What I said is you have to give him credit for selecting Megatron.
Now do us all a favor and get the hell out of here and go promote your weak ass website elsewhere buddy!
January 13th, 2012 at 11:14 am
DeuceDeuce Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 11:03 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 10:57 am
“Christianity rips off astrology.”
And early pagan rituals.
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Name these rituals. lol.. this is comedy.
Christians celebrate the Birth & ressurection of Jesus the Christ.
nothing more, nothing less.
Turn the Bill Maher off and read a book.
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Easter is descended from Passover, which is descended from the Spring Equinox.
Christmas is descended from Winter Solstice, as are many other wintertime holidays (Chanukah comes immediately to mind).
Christianity took these early pagan holidays and repurposed them, similar to how Kwanzaa was selected to coincide with the traditional Christmas season.
There’s nothing new here.
January 13th, 2012 at 11:14 am
GoodOle00 Says:
a whiner fan promoting his faider site! lol! too much!
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Well, whatever your agenda is, it’s clearly not to promote civil conversation about the Raiders.
Why don’t you just fk off and let the rest of us talk about the team without your colorful “steer” and “faider” commentary?
January 13th, 2012 at 11:16 am
I saw that…surprised! Thought he was going to Miami!
January 13th, 2012 at 11:16 am
He just wanted to make sure that when he was talking, asking questions, that he didn’t miss anything. And he didn’t. He was prepared. I was very impressed with Mark. Mark kind of knew what he wanted. He knew who his guy was. His guy was Reggie McKenzie, and he just wanted to kind of have one last talk before he made that decision and everything was impressive and he made the decision.
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Mark Davis will have the Raiders on the rise, baby!
January 13th, 2012 at 11:16 am
Q: McKenzie said, I like big and strong, always will, I like speed, too. That’s not going to change. . .
Madden: That’s what you go for. That was always our thing. When you’re not sure, you get to that point in a draft or signing free agents where they’re not going to have everything, so you don’t start giving in to mediocrity and just saying, well this guy was a good little player, he’s this or that, you say, OK, we don’t know these guys and if we’re not sure they can really make it, let’s go for two things. He either has to be big or strong, or he has to be fast. And then if you hit on a guy, you’ve got a big, strong guy that can play or you’ve got a real fast guy that can play. You don’t want to compromise those two things.
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YES REAL RAIDER FOOTBALL CONTINUES, FUGG THE IMPOSTORS THAT WANTED US TO DIVORCE OURSELVES FROM THE AL DAVIS FOUNDATION PHILOSOPHIES!!!!!!!
January 13th, 2012 at 11:16 am
RaiderDuck Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 11:14 am
DeuceDeuce Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 11:03 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 10:57 am
“Christianity rips off astrology.”
And early pagan rituals.
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Name these rituals. lol.. this is comedy.
Christians celebrate the Birth & ressurection of Jesus the Christ.
nothing more, nothing less.
Turn the Bill Maher off and read a book.
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Easter is descended from Passover, which is descended from the Spring Equinox.
Christmas is descended from Winter Solstice, as are many other wintertime holidays (Chanukah comes immediately to mind).
Christianity took these early pagan holidays and repurposed them, similar to how Kwanzaa was selected to coincide with the traditional Christmas season.
There’s nothing new here.
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Birth & Ressurection. Jesus the Christ.
Thats it bro.
January 13th, 2012 at 11:17 am
My little whores you are like Hue and Sandusky you all secretly want it.
January 13th, 2012 at 11:20 am
RaiderDuck Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 11:14 am
DeuceDeuce Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 11:03 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 10:57 am
“Christianity rips off astrology.”
And early pagan rituals.
—-
Name these rituals. lol.. this is comedy.
Christians celebrate the Birth & ressurection of Jesus the Christ.
nothing more, nothing less.
Turn the Bill Maher off and read a book.
=================================================
Easter is descended from Passover, which is descended from the Spring Equinox.
Christmas is descended from Winter Solstice, as are many other wintertime holidays (Chanukah comes immediately to mind).
Christianity took these early pagan holidays and repurposed them, similar to how Kwanzaa was selected to coincide with the traditional Christmas season.
There’s nothing new here.
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I’ve seen programs on TV that say Jesus was born in March – no where near Christmas!!
January 13th, 2012 at 11:21 am
Apparently McKenzie is for real. You have Ron Wolf and John Madden supporting him. I do not agree on the Hue firing, but I will give McK 2 full years before I second guess his decisions. So far everything looks promising.
January 13th, 2012 at 11:22 am
“True indeed bra, that is all. These religios or rituals, do not have anything to do with the average persons spirituality or their relationship with their creator. The history is fascinating though”
Yeah I agree when you read about the history of religion it is very fascinating how it evolved over time from people worshiping the sun moon and stars to what we have now.
When I was younger I was interested in the history of religion more so than why do people have faith I have read the Koran, the bible, from the Tao as well as various Hindu scribes so I am not ignorant to the many types of religions out there.
Whats interesting to me was how these newer religions adopted the ideals and rituals of their predecessors and then claim they are somehow wrong or not of god.
January 13th, 2012 at 11:22 am
I’ve seen programs on TV that say Jesus was born in March – no where near Christmas
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I’ve seen programs on TV that say the world will end in 2012.
January 13th, 2012 at 11:22 am
GoodOle00 Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 11:17 am
My little whores you are like Hue and Sandusky you all secretly want it.
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My little whores???
You don’t have enough, to be an assistant pimp!
STFU already and go slap yourself!
January 13th, 2012 at 11:24 am
“Easter is descended from Passover, which is descended from the Spring Equinox.
Christmas is descended from Winter Solstice, as are many other wintertime holidays (Chanukah comes immediately to mind).
Christianity took these early pagan holidays and repurposed them, similar to how Kwanzaa was selected to coincide with the traditional Christmas season.
There’s nothing new here.”
I know its history you can read about it anywhere and I found it amusing that I was called the idiot for even bringing it up!
January 13th, 2012 at 11:24 am
Raiderbuck Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 11:20 am
RaiderDuck Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 11:14 am
DeuceDeuce Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 11:03 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 10:57 am
“Christianity rips off astrology.”
And early pagan rituals.
—-
Name these rituals. lol.. this is comedy.
Christians celebrate the Birth & ressurection of Jesus the Christ.
nothing more, nothing less.
Turn the Bill Maher off and read a book.
=================================================
Easter is descended from Passover, which is descended from the Spring Equinox.
Christmas is descended from Winter Solstice, as are many other wintertime holidays (Chanukah comes immediately to mind).
Christianity took these early pagan holidays and repurposed them, similar to how Kwanzaa was selected to coincide with the traditional Christmas season.
There’s nothing new here.
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I’ve seen programs on TV that say Jesus was born in March – no where near Christmas!!
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Ya, I laugh everytime people say “Happy BDay Jesus” on Christmas
They didnt keep records of the birth or death of poor people in those days, Jesus actual birth day is literally unknown.
You can still celebrate His birth on that date, just stating it is in fact His Bday is false.
January 13th, 2012 at 11:24 am
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/don_banks/01/10/hue.jackson.firing/index.html?sct=nfl_wr_a3
Don Banks – actually says something nice about the Raiders!
January 13th, 2012 at 11:25 am
Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 11:22 am
I’ve seen programs on TV that say Jesus was born in March – no where near Christmas
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I’ve seen programs on TV that say the world will end in 2012.
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I’ve seen this little guy who comes in here and tries to promote this weak ass website everyday.
January 13th, 2012 at 11:25 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 11:24 am
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For the record I have no problem with you, and never called you an idiot brother.
January 13th, 2012 at 11:25 am
Enough about religion!!
Back to Reggie!
Like it or not this is now Reggie McKenzie’s team and he will build the foundation for the Raider Nation.
January 13th, 2012 at 11:26 am
Guys, as you can tell I’ve been hacked.
Seriously, does any of this sound like anything I’ve posted b4?
“faiders”? “whores”?
My apologies for posting RNS too much for some of your liking.
I’m not affiliated and can bet “GoodOle” isn’t either.
I’m dropping that moniker for obvious reasons.
I’m shocked and horrified my fellow raiders. I would never. Whoever did, congrats. You’ve achived new levels of low.
Invest in a life.
January 13th, 2012 at 11:26 am
“DeuceDeuce Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 11:25 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 11:24 am
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For the record I have no problem with you, and never called you an idiot brother.”
Thanks Deuce I am sorry if I was rude.
Peace
January 13th, 2012 at 11:26 am
DeuceDeuce Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 11:16 am
RaiderDuck Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 11:14 am
DeuceDeuce Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 11:03 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 10:57 am
“Christianity rips off astrology.”
And early pagan rituals.
—-
Name these rituals. lol.. this is comedy.
Christians celebrate the Birth & ressurection of Jesus the Christ.
nothing more, nothing less.
Turn the Bill Maher off and read a book.
=================================================
Easter is descended from Passover, which is descended from the Spring Equinox.
Christmas is descended from Winter Solstice, as are many other wintertime holidays (Chanukah comes immediately to mind).
Christianity took these early pagan holidays and repurposed them, similar to how Kwanzaa was selected to coincide with the traditional Christmas season.
There’s nothing new here.
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Birth & Ressurection. Jesus the Christ.
Thats it bro.
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You mean like Dionysus and Osiris?
January 13th, 2012 at 11:27 am
The real question is why dont we celebrate the Birth of Matt Giordano?..
January 13th, 2012 at 11:27 am
Ron Wolf and Madden think he is the right guy for the job, and that’s all I need to know about R McKenzie.
January 13th, 2012 at 11:28 am
Good ole )) you know this is what you reqally think of these pos. ha ha ha!
http://www.raidernationstation.com/raider_nation_station
way to rep retrad!
January 13th, 2012 at 11:28 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 11:26 am
“DeuceDeuce Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 11:25 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 11:24 am
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For the record I have no problem with you, and never called you an idiot brother.”
Thanks Deuce I am sorry if I was rude.
Peace
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You guys are fk’n bringing tears to my eyes.
We’re all family like mark said.
January 13th, 2012 at 11:28 am
Hire W Moss as HC.
There are many DCs to choose from.
Keep Saunders!
January 13th, 2012 at 11:29 am
LOL @ DMAC
January 13th, 2012 at 11:29 am
DeuceDeuce Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 11:27 am
The real question is why dont we celebrate the Birth of Matt Giordano?..
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Deuce,
I do.
Everytime he gets an int and take a puff and sip
lol
January 13th, 2012 at 11:30 am
Not even going to acknowledge.
January 13th, 2012 at 11:30 am
I wonder, now that davis sr is gone will the media members that clearly had an agenda of bias against the raiders and davis change their tune and suddenly claim that davis jr is worthy of praise.
Or when they discover that he is indeed sticking to most of his fathers legacy will they then mock him as being a boob, like silver did?
I think they will be disappointed to know that we are getting an updated version of his fathers system
January 13th, 2012 at 11:31 am
Raider O Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 11:28 am
Hire W Moss as HC.
There are many DCs to choose from.
Keep Saunders!
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My dog is at least as good as Chucky B – and he’s a much better boy, he doesn’t poop on the carpet!
January 13th, 2012 at 11:31 am
Rookie GM & Rookie HC? I dont think that has worked recently…why Winston Moss? I’d rather have a proven disciplinarian to clean up the looker room, somebody like Mary Schot would work, just not Marty Schot cause he is older than dirt.
January 13th, 2012 at 11:32 am
Don’t even feel like talking football right now but won;’t be chased off by some dirtbag. I have a sneaking suspicion whos behind it.
who cares.
DMC: Dead on on the megatron pick. He could’ve been OURS!!!
January 13th, 2012 at 11:32 am
morilla Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 11:26 am
You mean like Dionysus and Osiris?
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I like to deal in facts & the Word of God more than opinions and theories of James Frazier that subsumes a range of disparate myths under a single category and ignores important distinctions
January 13th, 2012 at 11:33 am
Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 11:31 am
Rookie GM & Rookie HC? I dont think that has worked recently…why Winston Moss? I’d rather have a proven disciplinarian to clean up the looker room, somebody like Mary Schot would work, just not Marty Schot cause he is older than dirt.
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Hey Dirt’s my older brother!
January 13th, 2012 at 11:34 am
We make the playoffs if Al Davis still would of been calling the plays on the D.
Fact
Davis (D-coordinator) > Bres
January 13th, 2012 at 11:34 am
37. agreed. Don’t know why Winston. He interviewed several times or was mentioned for it when Al was here but isn’;t he a defensive guy? That was always Al’s thing
January 13th, 2012 at 11:36 am
41. Not sure Al would’ve called all those prevent Ds like Bres did. yuck!
January 13th, 2012 at 11:37 am
Guys were debating who the WR Al didnt take was, IMO it was when we took Gallery and Larry Fitz was there for the taking… As a Pitt Panther fan and of course a Raider, I was p!ssed about this… After the miserable performances from Gallery, I was even MORE p!ssed!
January 13th, 2012 at 11:37 am
Al Davis was a lot of things, just not a good D-Coord. The Raiders have consistently had a bottom 10 D during the last 20 years. And yet he is Dick Lebeau compared to Chuky B.
January 13th, 2012 at 11:37 am
Isn’t saying that we should hire Marty Schot, like saying that Ralph Nader should be the Republican representative for the presidential race? Doesn’t Mary just HATE the Raiders, mostly Al Davis?
January 13th, 2012 at 11:37 am
Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 11:22 am
I’ve seen programs on TV that say Jesus was born in March – no where near Christmas
+++++++++++++++++++++++
I’ve seen programs on TV that say the world will end in 2012.
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January 13th, 2012 at 11:38 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 11:24 am
“Easter is descended from Passover, which is descended from the Spring Equinox.
Christmas is descended from Winter Solstice, as are many other wintertime holidays (Chanukah comes immediately to mind).
Christianity took these early pagan holidays and repurposed them, similar to how Kwanzaa was selected to coincide with the traditional Christmas season.
There’s nothing new here.”
I know its history you can read about it anywhere and I found it amusing that I was called the idiot for even bringing it up!
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There’s good evidence that shows that it’s more likely that paganism borrowed from Christianity in rivaling Christmas.
January 13th, 2012 at 11:38 am
2012=END OF THE WORLD..DONT WORRY ABOUT THE HOUSE/CAR PAYMENT AND MAX OUT THE CREDIT CARDS..IT’S COMMING TO A CLOSE FOLKS !!!
January 13th, 2012 at 11:38 am
Well, guess we no longer have to give Davis credit for the Gruden years:
“They had close to a general manager when Bruce Allen was there and Jon Gruden was the coach. That was a time that Al was spending a lot of time in court, and I think Bruce Allen was kind of the acting general manager and go-between with Al being in court and Jon Gruden the coach.”
January 13th, 2012 at 11:39 am
Raider-in-PA Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 11:37 am
Guys were debating who the WR Al didnt take was, IMO it was when we took Gallery and Larry Fitz was there for the taking… As a Pitt Panther fan and of course a Raider, I was p!ssed about this… After the miserable performances from Gallery, I was even MORE p!ssed!
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Gallery was the “safest pick” in that draft. A 10 year fixture at LT and a pro bowler guarnateed.
*sigh*
January 13th, 2012 at 11:39 am
DMAC Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 11:34 am
We make the playoffs if Al Davis still would of been calling the plays on the D.
Fact
Davis (D-coordinator) > Bres
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Al would never allow an MLB and 3 safeties to take turn covering Megatron.
More important question is who was the HC that allowed so much zones to be employed. The fans have yet to hold that Snake responsible for the gameplan. Pls dont tell me Bresh did it on his own.
January 13th, 2012 at 11:39 am
Yeah, and disaster was sure to strike during Y2K… Better keep your credit rating good, we’re gonna be here a while!!
January 13th, 2012 at 11:40 am
Man, going back reading those Goodole posts. Ugly. Sorry guys…not me.
Pretty sure neither of us own raider nation station
Honestly, none of that sounds like anything ‘;ve ever posted.
January 13th, 2012 at 11:41 am
I don’t know how many times I watched a game that John Maddening was doing commentary, and he would just flat out predict plays correctly. “They’re going to run a play action here”. Play action. “They’re going to run that slant here”. Slant. He’s become a caricature anymore, mocked by Frank Caliendo, etc. lol. But historically he’s been one of the smartest people around the game. Glad he was involved in choosing our GM.
January 13th, 2012 at 11:42 am
Maddening. lol. I meant Madden. Coffee…
January 13th, 2012 at 11:42 am
2 minutes to go, up by 6, what do you do with Megatron?
Chuky B: I will re-invent the wheel and have Slowlando half-jog behind Megatron down the field. its gotta work!
January 13th, 2012 at 11:43 am
FormerlyGoodOle00 Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 11:39 am
Raider-in-PA Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 11:37 am
Guys were debating who the WR Al didnt take was, IMO it was when we took Gallery and Larry Fitz was there for the taking… As a Pitt Panther fan and of course a Raider, I was p!ssed about this… After the miserable performances from Gallery, I was even MORE p!ssed!
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Gallery was the “safest pick” in that draft. A 10 year fixture at LT and a pro bowler guarnateed.
*sigh*
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Being from Iowa and a Hawkeye fan, I was so freakin’ excited when this happened, then of course it turned out like it did. I’ve seen Gallery and his brothers, and man they are just freakin’ HUGE! They take up a whole room! Can’t imagine anyone pushing him around!! Shows you what I know!
January 13th, 2012 at 11:43 am
Marty said years ago that when he retired, he would tell us the “real reason” he hates the Raiders. Did he ever do that?
January 13th, 2012 at 11:44 am
Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 11:42 am
2 minutes to go, up by 6, what do you do with Megatron?
Chuky B: I will re-invent the wheel and have Slowlando half-jog behind Megatron down the field. its gotta work!
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Then have ball hawk Boyd just stand there w/ a finger in his azz looking.
January 13th, 2012 at 11:44 am
Sullivan44 Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 11:41 am
I don’t know how many times I watched a game that John Maddening was doing commentary, and he would just flat out predict plays correctly. “They’re going to run a play action here”. Play action. “They’re going to run that slant here”. Slant. He’s become a caricature anymore, mocked by Frank Caliendo, etc. lol. But historically he’s been one of the smartest people around the game. Glad he was involved in choosing our GM.
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He is, I don’t know why people in here bag on him. Like you said he is one of the smartest guys in and around the NFL.
January 13th, 2012 at 11:45 am
“the scoreboard, making noise, any of that other stuff doesn’t count if you don’t have players.”
January 13th, 2012 at 11:45 am
I dont think there has ever been a better use of the word kunt than to describe Mart Schot…that dude is a man ol-kunt! LOL
January 13th, 2012 at 11:45 am
raiders suck, raider nation station sucks and you all sucks!!
lamao!
January 13th, 2012 at 11:45 am
2 minutes to go, up by 6, what do you do with Megatron?
Chuky B: I will re-invent the wheel and have Slowlando half-jog behind Megatron down the field. its gotta work!
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Wait, he had help over the top from the practice-squad safety Boyd! At least if it was Branch or Huff, but Boyd, C’Mon!
January 13th, 2012 at 11:47 am
Gallery was a bad NFL LT b/c of his short gator like arms?
January 13th, 2012 at 11:47 am
Formerly Good ole…had a feeling it wasn’t you! The only guy I knew that would post links to RaiderNation Station was someone I haven’t seen in a while…not blaming him, as he did not overly or actively promote that site and he was a good poster too!
January 13th, 2012 at 11:47 am
60. DMAC you’re the one who likes fingers inserted!
January 13th, 2012 at 11:48 am
WHERE IS NNAMDI-21 THESE DAY’S ?
January 13th, 2012 at 11:48 am
67. Shut up Howard. That site sucks as bad as you do u little whore
January 13th, 2012 at 11:48 am
69.DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 11:48 am
WHERE IS NNAMDI-21 THESE DAY’S ?
I didn’t even have to say it…lol
Truthfully haven’t seen him in here for a while!
January 13th, 2012 at 11:48 am
Raiderbuck:
Condo got us passes to meet him in the VIP section after a home game a few years ago (Kiffin’s last game). Got to meet some players and saw Gallery come out… Dude is a beast, wish he wouldve lived up to the Outland trophy winner status…
January 13th, 2012 at 11:49 am
morilla Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 11:44 am
Sullivan44 Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 11:41 am
I don’t know how many times I watched a game that John Maddening was doing commentary, and he would just flat out predict plays correctly. “They’re going to run a play action here”. Play action. “They’re going to run that slant here”. Slant. He’s become a caricature anymore, mocked by Frank Caliendo, etc. lol. But historically he’s been one of the smartest people around the game. Glad he was involved in choosing our GM.
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He is, I don’t know why people in here bag on him. Like you said he is one of the smartest guys in and around the NFL.
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He’s just so animated that he’s easy to make fun of, but yeah, he was the non cheating Bilachick of his day.
January 13th, 2012 at 11:50 am
Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 11:31 am
Rookie GM & Rookie HC? I dont think that has worked recently…why Winston Moss? I’d rather have a proven disciplinarian to clean up the looker room, somebody like Mary Schot would work, just not Marty Schot cause he is older than dirt.
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I understand you concern, but consider these ideas.
Althogh big is a first timer, he was the right hand man for wolf, and thompson. He isnt skiiping any steps, he has worked up as high as you can go and has been prepped for the gig by to very succeful guys in wolf and thompson. he is ready, and has already been doing the job, jhust didnt have the title.
I would prefer moss, because he is a discpline first coach, and as asst. hc for the super bowl champs and a guy that has worked hand in hand with one of the all time great defensive minds in football dom capers, he is also ready to be promoted to the hc level. i agree the pack defense wasnt that great this year, but they were one of the best last year. They have gotten older in some spots, and had some injuries, and may have gotten a little fat off their sb win. this doesnt really change my opinion on if he can get the job done. beside our defense is atrocious and could use an overhaul.
Both guys are raiders, and know the raider way. Im certain that on some level it must sicken them to see what has happened to our beloved silver and black as they both have strong ties to times when we were one of the premier teams in all of sports.
It is the davis formula to hire first time bright minds, both are considered strong up and comers around the nfl.
it is a natural fit
January 13th, 2012 at 11:51 am
Talking about Bellicheat, that turd has won nothing since he was caught cheating, yet East coast media talk about him like he was the second coming…
January 13th, 2012 at 11:51 am
Raider-in-PA Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 11:48 am
Raiderbuck:
Condo got us passes to meet him in the VIP section after a home game a few years ago (Kiffin’s last game). Got to meet some players and saw Gallery come out… Dude is a beast, wish he wouldve lived up to the Outland trophy winner status…
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Raider-in-PA,
I wish too, not too many Iowa boys have done great things in the NFL – Bryan Bulaga might do it.
January 13th, 2012 at 11:54 am
MISTIC,AM WITH U ON WINSTON MOSS.NEW BLOOB,YOUNG AND HUNGRY.ENERGY.
January 13th, 2012 at 11:54 am
NEW BLOOD HE MENT TO SAY..
January 13th, 2012 at 11:55 am
FormerlyGoodOle00 Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 11:39 am
Raider-in-PA Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 11:37 am
Guys were debating who the WR Al didnt take was, IMO it was when we took Gallery and Larry Fitz was there for the taking… As a Pitt Panther fan and of course a Raider, I was p!ssed about this… After the miserable performances from Gallery, I was even MORE p!ssed!
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Gallery was the “safest pick” in that draft. A 10 year fixture at LT and a pro bowler guarnateed.
*sigh*
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Just goes to show there are no slam dunks in the draft.
Praised as safe/slam dunk picks on draft day:
- Bob Gallery
- Rolando McClain
Panned as ridiculous reaches on draft day:
- Nnamdi Asomugha
- DHB
Nobody really knows how a guy is going to turn out between the huge jump up in competition and staying hungry after getting paid mega million$. Plus there’s the fact that some guys succeed in one system with one NFL team, but don’t work out in a different system.
All of this brings me back to why I love the Palmer trade. Give me a QB who can play at a top-10 level in this league and make bigtime throws downfield like Palmer made numerous times this season, over a draft pick or two that if they turn into Routt and Houston (and that’s probably better than the average 1st/2nd rounders fare) you say, OK, not bad.
Gotta have a QB in this league.
January 13th, 2012 at 11:56 am
Keeping AL saunders has become essential and I see most bloggers agree we need to keep the continuity going at least on O. As far as head coach whether its O or D minded coach he needs to be a motivator a leader of men which some say about Moss. We can’t hire a plain jane coach players today don’t respond well to those type(Norv,Wade Phillips). I believe we had that with Hue people might have not like what he said at final presser but it was the truth and IMO the players needed to hear it and needed it said PUBLICLY so they could feel embarrassed in front of world like us fans were. U know how much schit I had to hear from 9er fans about us being 7-4 and not make the playoffs while they glide in. Embarrassing.
January 13th, 2012 at 11:56 am
The Hue Jackson error in Oakland is over, and as it turns out, maybe the Raiders are starting to make progress after all.
Jackson’s firing on Tuesday after just one tumultuous season represents a clean break of sorts in Oakland, from the way things were done when Al Davis ran the whole show for decades, to the way business will now be conducted with new Raiders general manager Reggie McKenzie in charge.
Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/don_banks/01/10/hue.jackson.firing/index.html#ixzz1jMz1PUmY
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this is what i mean, this guy wants to claim that we are moving away from the al davis way.
get a clue don, BIG MACK IS HERE TO BE THE NEW DAVIS!!!!
people who hate davis and the raiders want to use any success we have in the future as proof of being right in their own campaign against davis and the raiders.
Sorry Don, real raider fans can see Uncle Als finger prints all over his sons style, and the moves he has made.
Dont beleive the hype— chuk d and flava flav circa 1988
January 13th, 2012 at 11:57 am
I dont think Moss would be a terrible choice, given the proper coordinators to work with. Love the fact that he actually wore the Silver & Black.
In the late 60’s Al Davis gave a promising young LB coach a shot at being head coach… Ladies and gentlemen, John Madden…
January 13th, 2012 at 11:59 am
82.Raider-in-PA Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 11:57 am
I dont think Moss would be a terrible choice, given the proper coordinators to work with. Love the fact that he actually wore the Silver & Black.
In the late 60’s Al Davis gave a promising young LB coach a shot at being head coach… Ladies and gentlemen, John Madden…
And he held the spot as winningest coach during that time! Not sure if it was broken yet…
January 13th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
I don’t mind Moss for HC, but I’d like to see him bring in a DC with at the very least some experience as a DC, if not as a HC.
Dean Pees would be ideal, but not sure how realistic that is or if they have any connection.
January 13th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
hwnrdr Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 11:59 am
82.Raider-in-PA Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 11:57 am
I dont think Moss would be a terrible choice, given the proper coordinators to work with. Love the fact that he actually wore the Silver & Black.
In the late 60’s Al Davis gave a promising young LB coach a shot at being head coach… Ladies and gentlemen, John Madden…
And he held the spot as winningest coach during that time! Not sure if it was broken yet…
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Madden is #2 all-time for winning percentage. Vince Lombardi is #1.
Seifert WAS #1 until he went to Carolina. Oops. 1-15 seasons will send you down the list fast.
January 13th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Fisher went to the Rams.
If McKenzie wants Bowles, he may have to jump today.
January 13th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
hwnrdr Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 11:59 am
82.Raider-in-PA Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 11:57 am
I dont think Moss would be a terrible choice, given the proper coordinators to work with. Love the fact that he actually wore the Silver & Black.
In the late 60’s Al Davis gave a promising young LB coach a shot at being head coach… Ladies and gentlemen, John Madden…
And he held the spot as winningest coach during that time! Not sure if it was broken yet…
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Madden is #2 all-time for winning percentage. Vince Lombardi is #1.
Seifert WAS #1 until he went to Carolina. Oops. 1-15 seasons will send you down the list fast.
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Not only is madden awesome, on his video game, the Raiders can beat anyone!
January 13th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Fisher went to the Rams.
If McKenzie wants Bowles, he may have to jump today.
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Fisher is a very mediocre coach, don’t see what the big deal is.
January 13th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
Mistic, did you read Silver’s article about Al treating Mark like crap? If even half of it is true, I seriously doubt Mark’s number one goal is to be just like dad. More like the opposite.
Al Davis…offense that lives and dies by the deep ball, prioritizing athletic skills over mere ability to play game of football, man-to-man defense, almost entirely.
We’ll see if McKenzie subscribes to the above theories.
January 13th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
Raiderbuck Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Fisher went to the Rams.
If McKenzie wants Bowles, he may have to jump today.
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Fisher is a very mediocre coach, don’t see what the big deal is.
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He’s this generation’s Chuck Knox. He’ll make a cruddy team respectable, but that’s about it.
January 13th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
GoodOle00 Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 11:48 am
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How come when you fart it smells like Vaseline & Finger Nail Polish?…
January 13th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
Go Giants!
January 13th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
Nice one DD…lol
Is that doucha-la-baggio mocking the great Jim Otto with the 00’s?
January 13th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
Honestly, I don’t see Al Davis’s fingerprints on anything happening right now. Mark just gave all football operations away to a guy that played linebacker here for like 3 years back in the ’80s. He’s giving McKenzie complete control to draft, acquire, cut, and release whatever player he wants, and hire his own head coach, who will hire his own staff, who themselves will implement their own gameplans and schemes. When Al was here, he had a hand in everything, and was the defacto defensive coordinator. This is nothing like Al. Mistic, I still don’t think it’s hit you yet.
January 13th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
What team has “Big Mac” ever built What players has he drafted. Get off this guys nuts til he proves something. F@ck input what has Reggie done besides get passes over by the falcons for the GM job.
January 13th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
I think the GM Al was talking about hiring the last couple years was Reggie. Mark hired Reggie because his Dad had him pegged already. That’s why nobody else was interviewed.
Reggie is AL’s choice plain and simple…
The end
January 13th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
So how did the interview go, Steve? Do we have a HC yet?
January 13th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
Like Whitlock said, the Davis flunkees are scrambling like roaches in the daylight now.
January 13th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
MB, nobody else was interviewed because Madden and Wolf recommended McKenzie.
January 13th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
Can we pull an Al and just hire Nolan as a “Senior Defensive Advisor” or something until Reggie hires a coach, then make Mike DC?
January 13th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
95.eastoaklandraider Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
What team has “Big Mac” ever built What players has he drafted. Get off this guys nuts til he proves something. F@ck input what has Reggie done besides get passes over by the falcons for the GM job.
He was in control of player personel in GB…yes, he didn’t have final say, but I think he did well doing that…and its not me, this was written that he was responsible for bringing Rodgers, for finding that undrafted RB last year (what was name?), and so on…
January 13th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
‘If McKenzie wants Bowles, he may have to jump today.’
Dont think it matters who is getting hired etc… Reggie has to wait until the Pack’s season is over.. Probably wont be until February folks…
January 13th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
We’re not pulling “Als” anymore, LAtotheBay. It looks like Mark is pulling the plug on Al’s way, and that’s about it.
January 13th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
MB, nobody else was interviewed because Madden and Wolf recommended McKenzie.
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Also because Chicago was wanting him. If Mark had waited a few days, we’d have lost out.
January 13th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
Reggie is AL’s choice, get over it.
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Sullivan44 Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
MB, nobody else was interviewed because Madden and Wolf recommended McKenzie.
January 13th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
While Reggie is waiting on his GB homeboys, we’re missing out on some good candidates.
January 13th, 2012 at 12:20 pm
Raider-in-PA Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
‘If McKenzie wants Bowles, he may have to jump today.’
Dont think it matters who is getting hired etc… Reggie has to wait until the Pack’s season is over.. Probably wont be until February folks…
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Unless Bowles’ interview just blows Reggie out of the water, you’re probably right. Reggie’ll want to interview Moss at the very least.
On the other hand, if Bowles DOES hit it out of the park…well, the Dolphins already interviewed him, he went 2-1 for them, and they’re not getting Fisher. They may well offer him the job, unless they’re absolutely determined to bring in a sexy “name” coach at all costs.
January 13th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
lol. If Reggie was Al’s choice, why didn’t Al hire Reggie? It was certainly due. 7 straight seasons with 11 or more losses would certainly indicate the current GM’s time was up. But Al had no intentions of quitting. Al had nobody in place, no plan whatsoever, and you know it. He thought he was going to live another 20 years. He put ownership in the hands of his wife and son, and that was it. Al chose Al as GM. Forever.
January 13th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
Ignore the Al hating troll!
All he wants is make attention.
What kind of guy likes male attention, molests his little cousin, attracted to his aunt, and blames Al for everything wrong in his life?!
Crazy Monkey!!!
January 13th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
Use your head, for once
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Sullivan44 Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
lol. If Reggie was Al’s choice, why didn’t Al hire Reggie?
January 13th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
Al chose Al as GM. Forever.
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Of course.
January 13th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
Al talked about bringing a GM who had Raiders history. It could have been McKenzie since Al had a lot of conversations with Wolf and Madden.
January 13th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
lol. Nice non answer, MB. You’re against the ropes right now. You know I’m right.
January 13th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
I think Al would have liked to hire Reggie, but just couldnt hand over the reigns..
January 13th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
He also said he likes to watch Garcia run in tights.
Remember that?!
LMAO
January 13th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
Al talked about bringing in a GM…NEVER DID. That’s why we were in this Hue or no Hue jam in the first place. If Al had actually had a successor in mind, he would have hired one. He would have prepared for the inevitable day of him dying. But he didn’t.
January 13th, 2012 at 12:25 pm
Raider O Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
Al talked about bringing a GM who had Raiders history. It could have been McKenzie since Al had a lot of conversations with Wolf and Madden
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Didn’t Al state the guy he was talking about was a personnel guy that assisted with the 2010 draft?
Don’t think he was ever serious about actually handing the whole thing over.
It went down as I always knew it would. Al was the Raiders until he took his last breath.
January 13th, 2012 at 12:25 pm
107.RaiderDuck Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 12:20 pm
Raider-in-PA Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
‘If McKenzie wants Bowles, he may have to jump today.’
Dont think it matters who is getting hired etc… Reggie has to wait until the Pack’s season is over.. Probably wont be until February folks…
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Unless Bowles’ interview just blows Reggie out of the water, you’re probably right. Reggie’ll want to interview Moss at the very least.
On the other hand, if Bowles DOES hit it out of the park…well, the Dolphins already interviewed him, he went 2-1 for them, and they’re not getting Fisher. They may well offer him the job, unless they’re absolutely determined to bring in a sexy “name” coach at all costs.
Bowles could be the next Tomlin! That sent Wisenhut to AZ…
January 13th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
Regardless, it is, what it is…
Raider on!! Its all we can do!!
January 13th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
Al talked about bringing in a GM…NEVER DID. That’s why we were in this Hue or no Hue jam in the first place. If Al had actually had a successor in mind, he would have hired one. He would have prepared for the inevitable day of him dying. But he didn’t.
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Al’s succession plan was “If I ever die, Mark will get the team and hire someone to run it.”
January 13th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
Who likes Male Attention?
Who finds his Aunt attractive?
Who molested his little cousin?
Who said he likes to watch Garcia run in tights?
Who Said Al never said he will hire a GM?
LMAO
It just keeps getting better
January 13th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
The very reason why McKenzie had to come in here and figure out what to do with Hue Jackson is because Al Davis has NO PLAN whatsoever for the general management of this football team after he was gone. That’s why you can do a Raider search on google right now and find hundreds of articles about Hue Jackson, his firing, and the chaos surrounding it. It’s not the result of a franchise that was prepared for the loss of a GM and had a successor in place. It’s indicative of a franchise totally unprepared for the occurrence.
January 13th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
LA,
Exactly!
January 13th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
Al Davis was a lot of things, just not a good D-Coord. The Raiders have consistently had a bottom 10 D during the last 20 years. And yet he is Dick Lebeau compared to Chuky B.
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Look at how badly the D fell apart this season, the first season Al Davis wasnt on the field during training camp. The first season he couldnt go to road games. The more Davis lost his health, the more the D tanked. He should have spent more money on a D coordinator if not a D head coach. He knew his stuff, he just couldnt do it all anymore.
January 13th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
Mike Taylor…. your job has never been more difficult, sir.
That presser was like watching a big, triple bypass freckle freight train collide with a loser cokehead Lloyd Christmas Express at warp speed.
January 13th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
You sound bitter, LAtotheBay.
January 13th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
I don’t know who Mike Taylor is, but I know that Mark Davis has LEGAL control over this football team. And he has put Reggie McKenzie in control of football operations. So, I don’t know how Mike Taylor’s job could be difficult. Sounds to me like he gets coffee.
January 13th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
After finishing the season they we did and then firing Hue, I am a bit bitter, sure.
Just havin’ a little fun though.
Mark was smart in picking the most qualified guy possible and McKenzie’s reputation precedes him. I’m good with that hire.
That PC was an absolute disaster though. Funny, if nothing else.
January 13th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
2 guys doing a PC for the 1st time ever in their life.
I totall agree, they should have nailed it.
January 13th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
I heard there was some tax talk for Mark Davis come april 15th. Is the transfer of ownership offical ?
January 13th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
Keeping AL saunders has become essential and I see most bloggers agree we need to keep the continuity going at least on O. As far as head coach whether its O or D minded coach he needs to be a motivator a leader of men which some say about Moss. We can’t hire a plain jane coach players today don’t respond well to those type(Norv,Wade Phillips). I believe we had that with Hue people might have not like what he said at final presser but it was the truth and IMO the players needed to hear it and needed it said PUBLICLY so they could feel embarrassed in front of world like us fans were. U know how much schit I had to hear from 9er fans about us being 7-4 and not make the playoffs while they glide in. Embarrassing. So I hope the next coach has a pair.
January 13th, 2012 at 12:49 pm
Mike Taylor is Raiders PR guru.
Well versed in all the deviousness
January 13th, 2012 at 12:49 pm
We need to do whatever General Manager Reggie McKenzie thinks we need to do.
Im in.
Im for the big picture, not the small one.
January 13th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
I’m with you on that one EastOakland…I’m surrounded by them…but I just brush them off…
January 13th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
DeuceDeuce Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
2 guys doing a PC for the 1st time ever in their life.
I totall agree, they should have nailed it.
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Also two guys being an owner of an NFL team and GM of an NFL team. Let’s home their speaking skills aren’t any indication of how well they do business (Reggie, I think there is none based on 1 on 1 interview that followed but Mark is a complete tool).
January 13th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
Also two guys being an owner of an NFL team and GM of an NFL team for the 1st time ever in their life*
January 13th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
106.LA to TheBay Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
While Reggie is waiting on his GB homeboys, we’re missing out on some good candidates.
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I think hes doing his diligence. Bowles has potential. Its either you choose a known name (Fisher, Gruden) or wait to get a younger guy. If you choose a younger guy, are you going with someone that missed the playoffs? Or are you trying to take a guy from the best team?
January 13th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
Heard it here…will be Moss
January 13th, 2012 at 1:06 pm
Yeah, I think Moss as well.
January 13th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
Mistic, did you read Silver’s article about Al treating Mark like crap? If even half of it is true, I seriously doubt Mark’s number one goal is to be just like dad. More like the opposite.
Al Davis…offense that lives and dies by the deep ball, prioritizing athletic skills over mere ability to play game of football, man-to-man defense, almost entirely.
We’ll see if McKenzie subscribes to the above theories.
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sully you missed my point entirely
1.) i never said davis jr. “wants to be just like his dad”. I did read and hear jr say he “wanst to carry on the legacy of his father” direct qoute his words not mine
2.) i wasnt discussing football offnesive and dfensive strategy. I was talking about how he does his business is similar to how his father used to operate so far.
3.) Big Mack is from the ron wolf school, and he still values “big strong fast” as a personnel philosophy, the Al Davis theory.
I know you want to claim what ever future success we may have as evidence that davis sr being clueless, but im afraid that simply wont fly with those of us that know what raider football is really about
January 13th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
W Moss for HC.
D Perry for DC.
Saunders for OC.
We win the AFC west!!!
January 13th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
I hope GB losses this weekend, so we can start our hiring process.
January 13th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
Have a great weekend Nation!!!
January 13th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
You too Hwnrdr
January 13th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
Raider O Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
I hope GB losses this weekend, so we can start our hiring process.
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Not that I wish the Packers ill, but…yeah, I agree with you.
January 13th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
I would like to see Kenny Powers as our new Head Coach!
January 13th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
122.Sullivan44 Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
The very reason why McKenzie had to come in here and figure out what to do with Hue Jackson is because Al Davis has NO PLAN whatsoever for the general management of this football team after he was gone. That’s why you can do a Raider search on google right now and find hundreds of articles about Hue Jackson, his firing, and the chaos surrounding it. It’s not the result of a franchise that was prepared for the loss of a GM and had a successor in place. It’s indicative of a franchise totally unprepared for the occurrence.
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Ghoul.
January 13th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
The Madden interview rocked. I have an Idea no one has brought up.
One more time John, MADDEN FOR COACH!!!!! LOL
January 13th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
We should look at spag for DC he could reunite with waufle and if we do so we should hurry before philly takes him
January 13th, 2012 at 1:41 pm
According to R McKenzie, the new HC will hire his own staff.
R McKenzie is most likely waiting for W Moss.
I think W Miss will hire D Perry to be his DC. I hope the new HC likes/ shares Saunders vision for an offense, and keeps Saunders as the OC.
I doubt that will happen, but that’s what I’m hoping for.
I’m a huge fan of the vertical offense (PA, and s great running game), and man coverage.
RIP Mr. Davis.
January 13th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
Moss*
A great*
January 13th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
That PC was an absolute disaster though.
………
How so?
January 13th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
I would like to see Kenny Powers as our new Head Coach!
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Would Tom Cable with a mullet be close enough?
January 13th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
Raider O Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 1:41 pm
According to R McKenzie, the new HC will hire his own staff.
R McKenzie is most likely waiting for W Moss.
I think W Moss will hire D Perry to be his DC. I hope the new HC likes/ shares Saunders vision for an offense, and keeps Saunders as the OC.
I doubt that will happen, but that’s what I’m hoping for.
I’m a huge fan of the vertical offense (PA, and a great running game), and man coverage.
RIP Mr. Davis.
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Saunders is very respected in NFL circles. If the incoming guy isn’t totally bent on installing his own offense, he could absolutely ask Saunders, Wylie, and company to stay on.
January 13th, 2012 at 1:48 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 12:49 pm
Mike Taylor is Raiders PR guru.
Well versed in all the deviousness
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With Mark being owner and Reggie being GM, I’d have to be cynical toward any notion that Mike Taylor does anything more than take orders.
January 13th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
I was talking about how he does his business is similar to how his father used to operate so far.
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OMG, are you insane?
Right off the bat Mark hires a GM, who himself will acquire and release all players at his choosing and appoint a head coach, who himself will hire his own staff, who themselves will build their own game plans and schemes.
That’s running a business just like Al?
Al made all personnel decisions sans maybe offensive assistants, and undoubtedly ran the defense.
You are clearly in denial, Mistic. I really don’t think it’s hit you yet.
January 13th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
EXTRA EXTRA FISHER TO RAMS Read all about it!!!!!!!!!
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d825f4ea5/article/fisher-chooses-to-coach-rams-over-dolphins?module=HP11_cp
January 13th, 2012 at 1:58 pm
Shake and Bake Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
EXTRA EXTRA FISHER TO RAMS Read all about it!!!!!!!!!
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d825f4ea5/article/fisher-chooses-to-coach-rams-over-dolphins?module=HP11_cp
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Dude, that’s like three hours old already. ;p
January 13th, 2012 at 1:58 pm
Honestly, there is just about nothing this organization is doing right now that has Al’s fingerprints on it. Nothing. Other than the uniforms. Owner hiring a GM, GM to hire head coach. We did not have a flow chart when Al was here. Everyone answered to Al. Mark is staying out of McKenzie’s way, McKenzie will stay out of the HC’s way, and so on. We have a flow chart in effect and if results aren’t met, then people get fired. Until that point, everyone is responsible for their own area, and as long as the team’s winning, their job will be safe. That was not the case when Al was here.
January 13th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
“Would Tom Cable with a mullet be close enough?”
No way! Tom Cable could not even hold Kenny Powers Jock!
January 13th, 2012 at 2:03 pm
Mark has all the moves and he grooves like his old man. Thats why he got Madden and Wold to give him direction and insight to what Al would have wanted.
Mark ain’t his dad but the soothe-sayers he brings in are all of the Davis mode. His clairvoyants, gypsy tarot readers, wizards, mystics, all of the Al Davis mode.
Look for Mark to become a meaner shrewder type Al Davis. The kid is just grasping whats been put in his lap. He’ll figure it out.
Mark just got a nibble of that power and he can’t wait to put the bib on and start munchin away at it. Book it!
January 13th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
Sully is actually right on this one.
We will now operate like a corporation with a flow chart instead of a Autocracy.
January 13th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
surprised know one has mentioned on Mckenizes short list….Danny Southwick
January 13th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
Moss,
Saban,
Cowher,
Edwards.
January 13th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 1:58 pm
Honestly, there is just about nothing this organization is doing right now that has Al’s fingerprints on it. Nothing. Other than the uniforms. Owner hiring a GM, GM to hire head coach. We did not have a flow chart when Al was here. Everyone answered to Al. Mark is staying out of McKenzie’s way, McKenzie will stay out of the HC’s way, and so on. We have a flow chart in effect and if results aren’t met, then people get fired. Until that point, everyone is responsible for their own area, and as long as the team’s winning, their job will be safe. That was not the case when Al was here.
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I doubt Mark will stay out of Mckenzies way once the salavation for power overtakes him. And, especially if the Raiders aint winning and Mark has to answer to current and future investors, he’ll go ballastic. Won’t have the patience of his dad (and you knew he had little to none). Oh, its gonna be one bit of fcking ass interesting.
January 13th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
#162;
you know how I hate admitting when S44 is correct.
January 13th, 2012 at 2:08 pm
If Mark wanted to stay out of the way, he would have given Hue one more year. But the impatience coupled with the power got to him.
January 13th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
Shake and Bake Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 2:08 pm
If Mark wanted to stay out of the way, he would have given Hue one more year. But the impatience coupled with the power got to him.
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Reggie wants to can Hue, but Mark vetoes it?!?
How is that “staying out of the way?”
January 13th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
“RaiderRetribution Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
#162;
you know how I hate admitting when S44 is correct.”
So true but he was right!
January 13th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
“If Mark wanted to stay out of the way, he would have given Hue one more year. But the impatience coupled with the power got to him.”
Not true, its the exact opposite, if Hue stays then Mark has to play GM, VP of player personnel, etc for another year.
January 13th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
Not sure why everyone is so down on the presser’s lack of pizazz.
I kill it everytime I do a big event, and can shine over just about anyone.
Than I preceed to go back to the office, blow off phone calls, and blog all day.
Is that what you would rather have running the team?
January 13th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
All of you Sanjay Lal fans, teasing of course. You don’t have to worry no more. Lal is now the WR’S coach of the Jets.
January 13th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
Tafur reports Sanjay Lai to Jets as WR coach.
January 13th, 2012 at 2:24 pm
Beat me Dell by uno minuto.
January 13th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
Lal did a great job the last two years!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bigger loss than Hue Jackson in my eyes.
January 13th, 2012 at 2:26 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 11:56 am
The Hue Jackson error in Oakland is over, and as it turns out, maybe the Raiders are starting to make progress after all.
Jackson’s firing on Tuesday after just one tumultuous season represents a clean break of sorts in Oakland, from the way things were done when Al Davis ran the whole show for decades, to the way business will now be conducted with new Raiders general manager Reggie McKenzie in charge.
Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/don_banks/01/10/hue.jackson.firing/index.html#ixzz1jMz1PUmY
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this is what i mean, this guy wants to claim that we are moving away from the al davis way.
get a clue don, BIG MACK IS HERE TO BE THE NEW DAVIS!!!!
people who hate davis and the raiders want to use any success we have in the future as proof of being right in their own campaign against davis and the raiders.
Sorry Don, real raider fans can see Uncle Als finger prints all over his sons style, and the moves he has made.
Dont beleive the hype— chuk d and flava flav circa 1988
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They’re right. Davis sucked and you should keep up your same lame faider ways,
Won;t matter what you do or who you hire faiders are always gonna choke!
January 13th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
Not sure why everyone is so down on the presser’s lack of pizazz.
I kill it everytime I do a big event, and can shine over just about anyone.
Than I preceed to go back to the office, blow off phone calls, and blog all day.
Is that what you would rather have running the team?
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People are putting their future in your hands, VR!!!!
January 13th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
Sanjay Lal, ex USC player, helps out with Sanchez from USC.I can’t think of any other angle, possible close in age.
January 13th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
Yeah, Lal was CRUCIFIED in here, remember? Last two seasons have been solid.
January 13th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
Ways McKenzie will keep things the same:
-Still be a fast team
-Physical defense intent on pressuring the QB
-John Herrera will stay be kicking azz and taking names
Ways McKenzie will change things:
-We will trade down now, and rarely trade up
-We will not take extreme projects in the draft
-Penalties and lack of discipline will not be tolerated
-We will change from the 4 man rush, press defense, to a much more diverse defense
January 13th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
Wasnt there some people in here murdering Sanjay Lal??.. How’s that crow?..
January 13th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
What is interesting Al Saunders name never mentioned in any rumors. Interesting, if he was told to start looking for any other available job, or is holding on for the new HC. We wil never know.
January 13th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
People are putting their future in your hands, VR!!!!
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I got it all under control.
Just don’t call me, lol.
January 13th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
DeuceDeuce Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
Wasnt there some people in here murdering Sanjay Lal??.. How’s that crow?..
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Deuce,
Some of these guys in her just want o to bit@h all the time and even blame the water boy on occasion.
January 13th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
Raider Dell Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
DeuceDeuce Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
Wasnt there some people in here murdering Sanjay Lal??.. How’s that crow?..
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Deuce,
Some of these guys in her just want o to bit@h all the time and even blame the water boy on occasion.
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Agreed.
January 13th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
People have bagged on:
-Lal, who may have been our best position coach last year,
-Cooper Carlisle, who may have been our best O-lineman last year
-DHB, who may have been our best and most consistant (LOL at still typing that; good for you Darrius)skill player last year
Feel free to add to the list
January 13th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
Sanjay Lal is gone?! WTF
We are 4-12 at best without Lal.
January 13th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
I’m glad Lal found a job before he was fired.
January 13th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
Deuce,
Where were you earlier?
We were talking Aaron Curry, and someone posted that who cares if he stinks and makes errors, but he tries hard and plays with passion.
I was hoping you would stay true to form and jump in.
January 13th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
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January 13th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
Can’t blame Lal for leaving.
No idea who the new HC will be, or if he’ll want to keep any of the current staff.
If the Jets offered him a job, he’d be foolish NOT to take it.
January 13th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
I’m glad Fisher chose the Rams. We don’t need anymore beat downs from the Dolphins.
January 13th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
Mark Davis’s hair style rules….best owner in sports…schit is dope fellas
January 13th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
I think we will know sooner than later.
I have a feeling the Giants will win on Sunday.
January 13th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
Am I the only one again this weekend that thinks Tebow is going to pull it off?
I see Ravens and Saints winning easy, and Packers and Bronco’s squeeking out last minute victories.
January 13th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
Rid ourselves of Palmer after we get a new Hc…thanks
January 13th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
55.Sullivan44 Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 11:41 am
I don’t know how many times I watched a game that John Maddening was doing commentary, and he would just flat out predict plays correctly. “They’re going to run a play action here”. Play action. “They’re going to run that slant here”. Slant. He’s become a caricature anymore, mocked by Frank Caliendo, etc. lol. But historically he’s been one of the smartest people around the game. Glad he was involved in choosing our GM.
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This must be Friday the 13th.
For once I mostly agree with MR—except for the last sentence and the Frank Caliendo stuff.
This interview sounded to me more like Madden saying: I didn’t pick him. Mark did.
I hope I’m wrong.
January 13th, 2012 at 2:45 pm
That stupid damn water boy brought our defense warm unfiltered water during practice last year it will NOT be tolerated while Reggie McKenzie is here NO WAY!!!!
January 13th, 2012 at 2:45 pm
He needs to slick that mess back like his father.
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Method To My Madness Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
Mark Davis’s hair style rules….best owner in sports…schit is dope fellas
January 13th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
Ok Corky, yah thats what happened!
lol
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Silverandblack666 Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 2:45 pm
That stupid damn water boy brought our defense warm unfiltered water during practice last year it will NOT be tolerated while Reggie McKenzie is here NO WAY!!!!
January 13th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
@Just Fire Baby
Who would you compare DHB to, like another reciever in the NFL?
January 13th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
Rid ourselves of Palmer after we get a new Hc…thanks
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Not happening.
Palmer is the unquestioned starter going into camp.
January 13th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
This must be Friday the 13th.
For once I mostly agree with MR—except for the last sentence and the Frank Caliendo stuff.
This interview sounded to me more like Madden saying: I didn’t pick him. Mark did.
I hope I’m wrong.
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What I took from it is Wolf sold Him, and Madden signed off. (Gave His thumbs up)
January 13th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
Deuce,
Where were you earlier?
We were talking Aaron Curry, and someone posted that who cares if he stinks and makes errors, but he tries hard and plays with passion.
I was hoping you would stay true to form and jump in.
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DANGIT!!!
Man I knew I shouldnt have worked at all today lol..
Thats a meatball right there lol
January 13th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
Lal saw the dysfunctional possibility of chuck stayin so he left. Jumped ship. Nothin that already hadn’t been done by the players mutiny on Hue.
January 13th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
Palmer is staying B@uce we need him to meet our Ginger quota on the team.
January 13th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
Hmm……
DHB actually reminds me of John Taylor, always said it.
DHB might be bigger, but guys are just bigger these days.
Taylor struggled early, never had “elite” hands, and was never a #1 WR.
But dude was THE YAC guy, before there ever was the term YAC, and was an impressive dude physically.
I know some will hate the 49ers analogy, but that’s what I always thought.
January 13th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
That stupid damn water boy brought our defense warm unfiltered water during practice last year it will NOT be tolerated while Reggie McKenzie is here NO WAY!!!!
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Warm water? I heard he was slipping valium in the water given to the defense during the game…
January 13th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
I agree.
DHB is a YAC machine, too bad he cant run a slant route to save his life. They need to get him short dumps (ha ha) so he can motor.
January 13th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
Sometimes I think “man that stupid inbreed Brownstains can’t get any dumber” Then he goes and says something even stupider than previously thought possible!
Can you read at all?
People were making water boy jokes in here and your little brain thought it was serious.
LMFAO at the new level of stupid to which old Brownstains has now reached.
January 13th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
Q: Isn’t this the first time in team history someone other than Al Davis is the Raiders GM?
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What was Wolf? And didn’t Al have a ’silent’ GM last year? hererra maybe?
Somethin fishy bout that interview. Souded like spin control. One of Reggies first orders was to can Hue. “hey Reg, can Hue and the job is yours”. That simple.
January 13th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
Palmer is staying B@uce we need him to meet our Ginger quota on the team.
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Christ,
Palmer isn’t a Ginger.
Danny Bonaduce is a Ginger.
January 13th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
If DHB is our John Taylor, who is going to be Jerry Rice?
January 13th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
@Just Fire Baby
Who would you compare DHB to, like another reciever in the NFL?
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75% Terrell Owens 25% Brandon Marshall
January 13th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
That stupid damn water boy brought our defense warm unfiltered water during practice last year it will NOT be tolerated while Reggie McKenzie is here NO WAY!!!!
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Warm water? I heard he was slipping valium in the water given to the defense during the game…
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No Kidding
I think Curry is unaffected however.
January 13th, 2012 at 2:53 pm
Albert Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
If DHB is our John Taylor, who is going to be Jerry Rice?
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Denarius.
Moore.
January 13th, 2012 at 2:53 pm
Didn’t Al D. try and get Harbaugh in here last year or two? When the 9er season ends, maybe he’ll come over now.
January 13th, 2012 at 2:53 pm
who is going to be Jerry Rice?
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D-Moore.
I really think that dude can be a Marvin Harrison type, 1,300+ yard a year WR.
So smooth going in and out of his cuts.
Meanwhile, DHB still runs A PAINFUL to watch stop and go.
January 13th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
If Saunders is not retained by whoever is the new HC, he may just retire and go fishing. He’s been at it a looong time….
Jets are pretty much scrapping their entire offensive coaching staff, still kinda surprised to see Lal go over to them though……
January 13th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
BewareofRaiders Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
We should look at spag for DC he could reunite with waufle and if we do so we should hurry before philly takes him
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The head coach has full power to hire his staff. The organization will no longer be hiring a staff for a coach despite what they want.
stupid al davis.
January 13th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
DHB is big, but he is not Marshall or TO big.
January 13th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
France got its credit rating dropped. Socialism rearing its ugly head everywhere….specially here!
Raise that debt ceiling again pres purple lips, spend more $$$$ you FK’ng clown.
mope & change
January 13th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
The Professor Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 2:53 pm
Didn’t Al D. try and get Harbaugh in here last year or two? When the 9er season ends, maybe he’ll come over now.
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youre such a fckng dumb assed twit. you ok with that?
January 13th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
If DHB is our John Taylor, who is going to be Jerry Rice?
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Moore?
Also, I got to admit I did love Brent Jones (before Raiders moved back to Oak and before my balls dropped), slow as *#&%, always open and would get caught from behind from a lineman…
January 13th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
I don’t think ANY coach will be retained at their current job.
Rod Wood and Chuck may go to scouting, but I don’t think Saunders, Wauffle or Wiz will be retained.
If your going to take off a band-aid, you got to just rip the whole thing off.
January 13th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
It was exlax
January 13th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
I would say he is half Ginger at least
http://www.deuceofdavenport.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Carson-Palmer2.jpg
Red hair, red beard…..
January 13th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
The Professor Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 2:53 pm
Didn’t Al D. try and get Harbaugh in here last year or two? When the 9er season ends, maybe he’ll come over
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No, he didn’t.
In fact he didn’t even call him which was a mistake.
January 13th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
I would be curious to know France’s credit rating.
Is it above California’s BBB?
January 13th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
Any word on David Shaw yet?.
January 13th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
Palmer is a California ginger.
Too much sun, lightens that up. Want to see a true Ginger, go to the Northeast.
January 13th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
Why would you admit this here?
Please go flush your head in the toilet.
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DutchRaider77 Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
Also, I got to admit I did love Brent Jones
January 13th, 2012 at 3:00 pm
From AAA to AA
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Just Fire Baby Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
I would be curious to know France’s credit rating.
January 13th, 2012 at 3:00 pm
What I took from it is Wolf sold Him, and Madden signed off. (Gave His thumbs up)
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No doubt Ron’s influence was big–as it should be.
January 13th, 2012 at 3:00 pm
Sanjay Lal say it aint so nooooooooo!
http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/jets/2012/01/jets-hire-sanjay-lal-as-new-wide-receivers-coach
January 13th, 2012 at 3:01 pm
I just hope that at least Wylie and Classic Wiz are kept.
January 13th, 2012 at 3:01 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
Can’t blame Lal for leaving.
No idea who the new HC will be, or if he’ll want to keep any of the current staff.
If the Jets offered him a job, he’d be foolish NOT to take it.
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Absolutely.
Just like Reggie canned Hue to bring in “his guys” whoever the new coach is will likely sack the entire staff for “his guys” unless all of his guys are already locked into contracts.
January 13th, 2012 at 3:01 pm
I always thought Al wanted Harbaugh. Sure wished he would have called him. Maybe the new GM might see that we have to pay decent coaches a good wage. And get a good one.
January 13th, 2012 at 3:01 pm
France’s credit rating just got flushed down the toilet along with the Euro and Sarkozy’s re-election.
January 13th, 2012 at 3:01 pm
From AAA to AA
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Actually, that is still pretty good.
Hell, S & P knocked US to AA.
California, BBB . One notch ahead of junk.
January 13th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
I would say he is half Ginger at least
http://www.deuceofdavenport.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Carson-Palmer2.jpg
Red hair, red beard…..
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Half maybe,
Not very convincing though. lol
I think you might be color blind. Dude has “Dirty Blond” Hair and not a freckle in sight.
January 13th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
Well if I’m the new HC all my guys are already locked into contracts somewhere else. Gonna be going through the recycle bin for most coaches, or they’ll be unproven.
January 13th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
Faye Reagan is my favorite ginger:
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQJnHUiOyTYzeMbNFkjAWWAcQJgMuXbVf5IT0JIhhBo7CBwiNzF8g
January 13th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
Why would you admit this here?
Please go flush your head in the toilet.
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DutchRaider77 Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
Also, I got to admit I did love Brent Jones
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You didn’t read my qualifying statement: “(before Raiders moved back to Oak and before my balls dropped).” There was no Bay Area team and I had not grown into a man yet. Children can be forgiven for stupid things…
January 13th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
Mark Davis’s hair style rules….best owner in sports…schit is dope fellas
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Best owner in sports is Arte Moreno. Just for the fact he LOWERED beer prices. Plus, he rocks a pretty pimped pencil thin moustache!
Just sayin……
January 13th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
Pujols might hit more HR’s than the A’s 3-4-5 hitters combined.
January 13th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
I like our young WRs. Moore is our best WR, DHB (our most productive WR) is solid, and Ford can do a lot of things with speed.
January 13th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
I like that new Muslim guy who owns the Jags. He has a sweet handlebar stache.
January 13th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
Jets canned former great WR Henry Ellard for Sanjay.
Lal will be an OC before his time is up.
Still not sure if we are ready for our first “Sanjay” as HC though.
Just saying.
January 13th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
hey proffesor, shouldn’t you be fluffin someone right now. get back to work.
January 13th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
Pujols might hit more HR’s than the A’s 3-4-5 hitters combined.
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Seriously.
Hope they get their ballpark in San Jose.
No excuses for “tight waddery” then.
January 13th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
Paul Gutierrez is saying Cliff Branch could be the next WR coach.
January 13th, 2012 at 3:10 pm
Raider O Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
I like our young WRs. Moore is our best WR, DHB (our most productive WR) is solid, and Ford can do a lot of things with speed.
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Me too Raider O
January 13th, 2012 at 3:10 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
I was talking about how he does his business is similar to how his father used to operate so far.
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OMG, are you insane?
Right off the bat Mark hires a GM, who himself will acquire and release all players at his choosing and appoint a head coach, who himself will hire his own staff, who themselves will build their own game plans and schemes.
That’s running a business just like Al?
Al made all personnel decisions sans maybe offensive assistants, and undoubtedly ran the defense.
You are clearly in denial, Mistic. I really don’t think it’s hit you yet.
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sully try to remove your hate for everything al davis for a moment, i will lay out exactly what i see that makes jr, much like dear old dad.
1.)he likes former raiders working in the organization, i dont need to name them all, but big mack is the latest addition in this category
2.)he has a small inner circle of raiders that he relies on for input. See madden and ken herock and ron wolf who recommended big mack
3.) he like to hire first time guys into important post within the organization,regardless of skin color or gender big mack fits this category, and our new hc if its moss also fits
4.) he is quick to pull the trigger and fire coaches if he doesnt believe in him, ask hu jack, mike white joe bugel and lane kiffin
5.) he stays in the background giving the coach enough rope to hang himself, just like sr. gave cable the silent treatment before he axed him
6.)he believes in height weight speed, part of why big mack was brought in because he can evaluate talent according to the davis / wolf philosophy
If you disagree with what i say here dont take my word for it, scroll through the interviews of big mack davis jr and madden over the last few days where all of these topics are clearly and directly addressed.
sorry sully, the shadow of AL DAVIS LOOMS LARGE AND YOU CANT ESCAPE IT
January 13th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
Paul Gutierrez is saying Cliff Branch could be the next WR coach.
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So that means we have a HC in place pickin out his staff? Is Chuck stayin?
January 13th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
Bring In a defensive HC like when we brought in John Madden!!!
January 13th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
FA will be interesting, but not the same without Al. Al loved big name FAs.
January 13th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
Cliff is moving up the ladder for sure.
He was sitting right next to Mark the whole game in Houston, than ended up on the sidelines at the end of the game (in a killer suit).
Than there he was at the presser, right up front.
Might be Mark’s favorite player when Mark was young.
January 13th, 2012 at 3:12 pm
Len,
Murphy is a good backup.
January 13th, 2012 at 3:12 pm
Was mine.
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Just Fire Baby Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
Cliff is moving up the ladder for sure.
He was sitting right next to Mark the whole game in Houston, than ended up on the sidelines at the end of the game (in a killer suit).
Than there he was at the presser, right up front.
Might be Mark’s favorite player when Mark was young.
January 13th, 2012 at 3:13 pm
Sanjay Lal aint garbage anymore I guess. Anyone that made DHB decent should def get noticed in this league.
January 13th, 2012 at 3:13 pm
If we’re gonna be looking at recycled coaching prospects such as Dom Capers…why not Steve Mariucci?.
He spent time in GB when McKenzie was starting, don’t know if he would wanto to do it … but the guy is still young, he has to give it one more shot.
January 13th, 2012 at 3:13 pm
251.RaiderLen Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
Pujols might hit more HR’s than the A’s 3-4-5 hitters combined.
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Seriously.
Hope they get their ballpark in San Jose.
No excuses for “tight waddery” then.
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The Giants are going to fight that Len.
January 13th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
Cliff does charity stuff for the Children’s Hospital here in ABQ, and is at the Wal-Mart by my house selling autographed pics and stuff.
Got one of him scoring a TD against the Eagles in the Super Bowl, about 3 feet from my computer screen.
January 13th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
Raider O Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 3:12 pm
Len,
Murphy is a good backup.
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I’d keep Murphy around…as a backup.
January 13th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
Now that we have sanity to our Team we will keep the Great things that Al did well and mix in some modern sanity.
Al’ legacy will still be honored but we will strive for continuity, players that are intelligent, and no more over signing FA’s that turn into busts once they come over to Oakland,…
January 13th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 3:13 pm
251.RaiderLen Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
Pujols might hit more HR’s than the A’s 3-4-5 hitters combined.
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Seriously.
Hope they get their ballpark in San Jose.
No excuses for “tight waddery” then.
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The Giants are going to fight that Len.
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Yep, they have been.
I think at the end of the day the A’s wind up there anyway.
I think we are supposed to hear something in the next few months.
January 13th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
Murphy is still under contract (I think).
January 13th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
303Raider Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
Now that we have sanity to our Team we will keep the Great things that Al did well and mix in some modern sanity.
Al’ legacy will still be honored but we will strive for continuity, players that are intelligent, and no more over signing FA’s that turn into busts once they come over to Oakland,…
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Yvonn Walker comes to mind.
Dude tried to quit AND give his money back, and AL talked him out of it.
That was crazy.
January 13th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
Raider O Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
Murphy is still under contract (I think).
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I don’t know. If not, I wouldn’t stretch my wallet to keep him.
January 13th, 2012 at 3:19 pm
The A’s should definitely get out of the Oakland Coliseum.
What a dumb azz place to play baseball.
January 13th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
DHB is big, but he is not Marshall or TO big.
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But he ain’t TO slow either. Not a bad combo. He’s surprised me as much by his lack of ability to get deep as he has by showing the physicality to drag guys for extra yards after the catch. Maybe he hit the weight room too hard and lost some speed because of the extra pounds?
January 13th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 3:19 pm
The A’s should definitely get out of the Oakland Coliseum.
What a dumb azz place to play baseball.
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I grew up going to the Colosseum and Candelstick.
I’ve been to Pac Bell. That opened my eyes as to what a baseball only facility SHOULD be.
January 13th, 2012 at 3:28 pm
Too much sun, lightens that up. Want to see a true Ginger, go to the Northeast.
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I’m pretty sure that Ireland is northeast of where ever most of the people here post from.
January 13th, 2012 at 3:40 pm
Bob Marley Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 3:13 pm
If we’re gonna be looking at recycled coaching prospects such as Dom Capers…why not Steve Mariucci?.
He spent time in GB when McKenzie was starting, don’t know if he would wanto to do it … but the guy is still young, he has to give it one more shot.
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I’m not endorsing Mariucci, but it’s an interesting thought, and one I’d never considered.
I think IF he were offered the job he’d jump at it.
January 13th, 2012 at 4:10 pm
Mooch? he wouldn’t be able to put a good staff togther, been out of it too long.
Take any packer guy like moss and get more packer guys. and keep wyllie and wauffle and wiz and saunders at some degree
January 13th, 2012 at 7:43 pm
STEVE MARIUCCI..NOW THERE IS A THOUGHT..
January 14th, 2012 at 8:40 am
Raiderbuck Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Fisher went to the Rams.
If McKenzie wants Bowles, he may have to jump today.
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Fisher is a very mediocre coach, don’t see what the big deal is.
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Jeff Fisher didn’t just have 6 winning seasons in Tennessee, He only had 5 losing seasons.
Outside of McNair, Matthews, George, Wycheck, and Mason, The Titans had NOTHING on Offense beyond 2005 as none of them were on the team anymore. After this point, the next best player was Chris Johnson. Honestly, Fisher won 13 games in 2008 with Lendale White as his feature back and Kerry Collins under center – he did the most with the least, his teams always fought, and were among the most entertaining in the NFL – especially the Music City Miracle.
He has a better record than Dom Capers, and he managed to do it with a team that moved from Houston to Tennesse. The irony is, they may end up moving to L.A., anyway.
January 14th, 2012 at 11:34 pm
After watching the Saints/49′ers game this afternoon does anyone have any question as to what a defense should be? The Raiders “D” are queers and lady boys compared to the 9′ers. The Raiders “D” should be entirely blown up. The first to go should be the ebony sub-moron McClain, Richard (over-the-hill) Seymour, and all the dumbass CBs into including Rout. Maybe several defensive lineman should hang around until we make the transition, but only hang around until they can be replaced. Thinking back on the performance of our defense is both disgusting and shocking.
Secondly, does anyone, after watching Harbaugh’s performance today, want to re-visit the pimpin, lying, cheating, BS’ing jackazz, thick skull, Cro-Magnon Man of a Jackson?? Can you imagine him being around next year ? YIKES!
Lastly, does anyone, after watching the 49′ers today, having made a complete 180** turn around in the course of 1 season, think the Raiders can’t do the same ?
I believe they (the Raiders) can turn around, and very soon.
January 15th, 2012 at 3:19 am
“In addition to Packers LBs coach Winston Moss, the Raiders are reportedly interesting in talking to Green Bay DC Dom Capers about their head coaching vacancy.
Capers’ name was “floated” in a report by NFL Network. Raiders GM Reggie McKenzie is said to be interested in talking to him “once the Packers season is concluded.” If McKenzie is limiting his search to Green Bay assistants such as Moss, Capers, OC Joe Philbin, and QBs coach Tom Clements, there’s no hurry to make a hire.
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Source; Rotoworld
March 29th, 2012 at 8:07 pm
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