Packers assistants are on the market
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Sunday, January 15th, 2012 at 4:55 pm in Oakland Raiders.
The Raiders search for a head coach should heat up this week, courtesy of the New York Giants.
When the Giants beat the Green Bay Packers 37-20 Sunday at Lambeau Field, Packers assistant coaches Winston Moss, Joe Philbin, Dom Capers and Tom Clements became available for head coaching interviews.
All have been reported as potential Raiders candidates and had a working relationship with Raiders general manager Reggie McKenzie in Green Bay.
McKenzie worked in the Packers personnel department for 18 years before being introduced Tuesday as the general manager of the Raiders.
Moss has the title of assistant head coach and also coaches linebackers. Philbin is Green Bay’s offensive coordinator, Capers is the defensive coordinator and Clements is the quarterbacks coach.
Philbin, who rejoined the Packers less than a week after the death of his 21-year-old son in a drowning accident in Wisconsin, is also a reportedly a candidate for the head coaching job in Miami.
On the CBS pregame show, analyst Charley Casserly reported the Raiders were hoping for a “quick decision’’ in naming a replacement for Hue Jackson, who was fired by McKenzie.
The only reported candidate so far is Todd Bowles, who finished as Miami’s interim head coach and has interviewed for the head coaching job there.
The Raiders have not confirmed any head coaching interviews or coaches of interest in the process. McKenzie said at the press conference announcing his hiring he would lean heavily on the Green Bay model while reorganizing the football operation in Oakland.
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January 15th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
NO THANK YOU, no t PERRY, MOSS, CAPERS,
January 15th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
New Orleans, Atlanta and Green Bay will be looking to upgrade those defenses……
Giants, Ravens and 49ers…..have defenses that will help their teams win….as opposed to “not losing” the game
January 15th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
Perry Fewell the DCO for the Giants should be the Raiders HC…fck the packers…
January 15th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
Someone needs to put Perry Fewel and Kevin Gilbride on the interview list
January 15th, 2012 at 4:58 pm
Fewell >moss capers & perry
January 15th, 2012 at 4:59 pm
Fewell’s D just shut the pack DOWN….Thats what we need…
January 15th, 2012 at 4:59 pm
The Raiders haven’t confirmed any HC interviews or coaches of interest but alias knows who is on their short list.A$$hole.
January 15th, 2012 at 4:59 pm
Get me a defense that helps win games….not a defense that’s just an accessory to the high-flyin offense
January 15th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
3 of the 4 teams that remain are D strong…Who knew…
Its about the trench ladies…
January 15th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
Thec07 Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 4:59 pm
Fewell’s D just shut the pack DOWN….Thats what we need…
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Just like KCs defense did. Good defensive minds coupled with hustling players that aren’t just cashing checks will always give you a chance to win
January 15th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
Is Pagano on that list too?
January 15th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
Uh, Jerry, really?
January 15th, 2012 at 5:02 pm
I wonder if capers will get fired. Someones heads got to roll.
January 15th, 2012 at 5:02 pm
Just like KCs defense did. Good defensive minds coupled with hustling players that aren’t just cashing checks will always give you a chance to win
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hahaha that sounds like our D, guys cashing checks…
January 15th, 2012 at 5:02 pm
I am out 1 nation…
January 15th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
4.SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
Someone needs to put Perry Fewel and Kevin Gilbride on the interview list
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Ironic. I wanted the Raiders to hire Gilbride after Kiffin was let go. Many, many people in here told me I was nuts. Al hired Tom Cable, then replaced him with Hue Jackson. Alrighty then.
January 15th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
Cash’n checks….
Reggie has a lot of work to do…..Rome won’t be built in a day……
Wimbley = $10M per yr. – Ware = $11M per yr.
TK = $7M per yr. – Wilfork $8M per yr
Seymour = $15M per yr. – Ngata $12M per yr
Routt = $11M per yr – Revis $11.5M per yr
Huff = $8M per yr – Palomalu $9M per yr / Reed $7M per
January 15th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
Cool. Giants win.
Now cut the brokeass quitter DMAC.
Seriously, I could live with Condo at RB after watching Darren ruin this season with his MALINGERING (look it up clowns…it fits).
January 15th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
Yes McKenzie!
Because it’s always best to limit your search to a tiny little faction.
January 15th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
Reggie have any connections to the Giants staff?
January 15th, 2012 at 5:06 pm
Gimme some Grimm with Trestman at OC…
and trade DMAC for Mr. Irreleveant 2014.
January 15th, 2012 at 5:06 pm
Lefty12 Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
Albert Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
I want to see a 49er & Pats Super Bowl
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That is why you have no business on a Raider blog.
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I have no hate for the 49ers. And I respect the greatness of Brady.
January 15th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
Lefty,
I think the major obstacle with Hue was his contract that gave him direct reporting to the owner and I don’t think Hue wanted to give up that access. That would be a BIG problem for the new GM.
Hue did some dumb stuff but he also did many good things. I thought he presented a good face for the Raiders, but there was no doubt going to be personality clashes between Hue & Reggie if he stayed. Hue, without a doubt, wanted player personnel control and Reggie is not having any of that. Hopefully, whoever Reggie picks, keeps Al Saunders and the offense we already have designed. Just fix the D by going 3-4 and adding a new DC & a couple of key players. We should be good to go.
I noticed that both Sterling Moore & Hagen play well for the Pats. Letting those two go was a bad decision on Hue’s part, Just my opinion.
January 15th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
I would like us to sign Mario Williams.
January 15th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
3 of the 4 teams that remain are D strong…Who knew…
Its about the trench ladies…
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Also have 3 of the top 8 QB rated QB’s, including #2 and #3.
January 15th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
uhh… irrelevant that is. DMAC style.
January 15th, 2012 at 5:08 pm
Can’t wait to bring in Capers.
One year does not make a man.
His reputation as one of the most creative defensive minds of our generation will stay hold, whether they gave up 3 or 60 points today.
January 15th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
Capers = HC
Perry = DC
Clements = OC
Print it.
January 15th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
Packers assistants are on the market
By Jerry McDonald – NFL Writer
Sunday, January 15th, 2012 at 4:55 pm in Oakland Raiders.
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No way!!!!
January 15th, 2012 at 5:11 pm
Thec07 Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
Perry Fewell the DCO for the Giants should be the Raiders HC…fck the packers…
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Fewell may want to stay in New York and replace Coughlin when he retires, which could be this season if they win the Super Bowl.
January 15th, 2012 at 5:11 pm
Can’t blame one position coach for the failure on an entire unit. That being said; the secondary did not look prepared for the Pack, and haven’t all year (yet their O was good enough to mask it with enough points); and being thats already a weakness of our team; I hope we pass on Green Bay’s secondary coach. Moss could get a look though if he nails the interview.
January 15th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
LT DAN Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
I would like us to sign Mario Williams.
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Can’t. They have to pay Wimbley for his terrific, game changing play
January 15th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
You guys are so fickle.
All week, I hear about don’t hire the Packers D guys, because they were 31st in the league.
But after one game, with a ton of dropped passes and fumbles, we need to hire the Giants guys?
They were 27th ranked in the NFL in defense, and gave up 50 more points than the Packers D did this year.
Too funny.
January 15th, 2012 at 5:15 pm
OK, Reggie. Time to get those interviews set up. NOW.
January 15th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
Giants D was decimated by injuries. Kind of like our O. When healthy, GIants D was great the last few years.
We notice things like that.
January 15th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
Time for a HEAD coach that instills toughness and discipline.
January 15th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
1. I wasn’t in the blog at all last week.
2. Giants D was beset with injuries, how have they played since they have the compliment of D starters?
No fickleness here Bruh, Giants D just looks and is better than GB’s, and have been over the long haul of several years…
January 15th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
is dmac ready to play this week? oh wait…
January 15th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
Giants D was decimated by injuries. Kind of like our O. When healthy, GIants D was great the last few years.
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Oh…so now there is excuses for the stats.
Why not just let the stats speak for themselves, you know, like how you judged the Packers?
Face it man, Hue sucked, he is gone, and we are hiring Packers coaches. I told you weeks ago this would happen.
Except it and get behind it.
January 15th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
I wonder what Barry Switzer is up to?
January 15th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
JB,I was in the keep HJ camp but fine if the new GM wanted to go with his own guy.I’ll reserve judgement until we see what he does and how his choices work out,after all he was recommended,approved by 3 men who are highly respected around the league.
January 15th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
A long shot candidate for HC is Shaw from Stanford. He has NFL in the bloodline, came up under the Harbaugh tree, his dad, Willie, has history with Raider involvement and I have no doubt he understands defense through exposure of his dad’s experiences. That Raider connection may count for something. Then again, maybe not.
January 15th, 2012 at 5:21 pm
hue? hue?
damm crickets
January 15th, 2012 at 5:21 pm
11.SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
Is Pagano on that list too?
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Hope not, that lil fker laughed at us last year when he was asked about the Raiders DC job. He could of just said I want to stay as the Ravens DC but the punk had to talk schit about us. Why do some people want to hire Raider haters and people that talked schit about Mr.Davis? I know some here are just Davis haters but get ova it, old timer Marty schotty, Gruden, and Cowher will never be asked to coach here PERIOD and I am more than fine with that.
Gilbride and Fewell are very intersting, I would like to see them get atleast an interview but I have a feeling we will have a new coach by friday and I don’t agree with this. Moss does seem to have alot of fire and out of all the GB coaches he is the only one I would be ok with, I guess
January 15th, 2012 at 5:21 pm
I b good my ni gs long is we no be bringing in any more of them Tar Babies.
January 15th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
I would not mind Shaw however, our new GM is going shopping in GB. Very limited he should open up to all available…
January 15th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
POST-38,LMAO.DMAC NOT PRACTICING…
January 15th, 2012 at 5:25 pm
2011, Packers 31st in ypg, 16th in ppg
Giants 27th and 25th
2010,Packers were 5th in total D and 2nd in points per game.
Gaints #7 and 17th.
2009, Packers #2 in ypg #7 in PPG.
Giants 13th and 30th(LMAO) in ppg
I guess they were just ravaged by injuries the last 3 years right?
LMAO….Packers have been the superior D the last 3 years, but hey, let’s make a decision on one game instead of the last 48.
January 15th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
After watching football this weekend, it amazes me that people on this board actually think Carson Palmer is even is even close to being an elite QB. Eli came through again and again today. Smith and Brees were awesome yesterday. When has Palmer ever done a damn thing in the clutch?? I hope Reggie was watching this weekend and is coming up with Plan B at the position. Honestly, can you really see Palmer leading a team to the playoffs and winning games ever again?
January 15th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
They were 27th ranked in the NFL in defense, and gave up 50 more points than the Packers D did this year.
Too funny.
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Better than 32nd Ranked Defense and an NFL Record setting amount of passing yards against you.LMFAO!!!
January 15th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
Thec,
We really don’t know that for sure. Those names were ones that he’s familiar with. Now that Reggie’s the man, he knows he has to make the right decisions. I don’t see him picking a GB guy just because. I think he’ll be looking all over. I’m just glad we can now start early before everyone good is gone.
Let’s not forget that Reggie is a true Raider at heart who intends to make the “commitment to excellence” mean something once again (his words). He also come with some pretty strong recommendations – Madden, Ron Wolf, etc.
January 15th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
I vote for Bowles as HC and Nolan as DC. Looks like Zimmer is getting Miami job. Hue will then join his old buddy as OC.
January 15th, 2012 at 5:30 pm
Last 3 years, the Giants have been 25th, 17th and 30th in points per game allowed defensively.
As a comparision, the Raiders were 29th, 20th, and 23rd, and gave up a whole 11 MORE POINTS THAN THE GIANTS THE LAST 3 YEARS.
The Packers have given up over 150 less points during the same time span as us.
Reggie is a smart guy, and he will make the smart choice.
January 15th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
It is hilarious that so many are complaining and he(Reggie) hasn’t even hired anyone yet.
January 15th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
Reggie is good at watching college film and finding players.
Outside of that, we don’t know that he’s smart. (insert press joke here).
January 15th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
Capers was the coach of two expansion teams. Don’t let the W-L fool you.
January 15th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
Better than 32nd Ranked Defense and an NFL Record setting amount of passing yards against you
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So yards count more than points?
Do you cheer on first downs more than touchdowns?
Get a clue.
January 15th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
If we hire Bowles, he is going to bring in a DC that will not threaten his job.
Mike Nolan wouldn’t even be considered.
January 15th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
Whats Capers record as HC? I know it wasn’t great, does anybody know?
January 15th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
Anyone here really think Reggie is seriously concerned about what anybody on this blog thinks? Probably not, huh?
January 15th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
Eli #1 overall pick, Alex Smith #1 overall pick, Flacco #1st rounder, Brady GOAT
So unless we have a plan to get into the 1st round, or get a HOF, not sure what plan B would be over Carson Palmer?
January 15th, 2012 at 5:35 pm
The exodus of Green Bay staff, players & coaches embarking for Oaktown slated to begin soon.
So, take advantage of a preceived uneasiness in New Your (Jets, that is). . .
They want to return to ground & pound? Trade DMAC there for a first this year & a conditional (1st or second) in 2013. . .Trade Palmer to Houston for a third this year & the obligatory conditional in 2013. . .
Bring in Moss for HC & Clements (if he can’t land a HC job) as OC. . .Sign Flynn @ QB. . .dtaft RB Polk from U of Dub (unless Miller from Miami declares) & concentrate on “D.”
Mario Williams of Houston regardless if running a 3-4 or 4-3 Paul Soliai, NT from Miami; concentrate on upgrading LB corps; go ahead with the move of Huff to CB & all you need is a playmaking FS. . .
January 15th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
Trade Palmer to Houston for a third this year & the obligatory conditional in 2013. . .
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Why would Houston do that?
January 15th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
You get a clue man, his Defense gave up an NFL record setting amount of passing yards this year, That means his defense was one of the worst in NFL history and was the worst when it came to passing yards IN THE HISTORY OF THE NFL. C’MON MAN think about it.
January 15th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
If we hire Bowles, he is going to bring in a DC that will not threaten his job.
Mike Nolan wouldn’t even be considered.
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This would be nothing like the Cable/Hue situation. Cable was toast the day Hue was hired. If Reggie brings in those two as a package deal, Bowles won’t have a thing to worry about.
January 15th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
Giants won the Super Bowl in 2008 with great defense, next year they were 30th in PPG the next season.
It is called the Super Bowl hangover, and happens damn near every year.
Dom Capers is one of the best defensive minds in football, and I look forward to him being our next head coach.
January 15th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
DMAC 4 A #1 IS A PIPE-DREAM ALSO IMO..
January 15th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
Eli #1 overall pick, Alex Smith #1 overall pick, Flacco #1st rounder, Brady GOAT
So unless we have a plan to get into the 1st round, or get a HOF, not sure what plan B would be over Carson Palmer?
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Well there is another 1st rounder that’s a FA and happens to be the best QB we’ve had since Gannon. Guess who it is?
January 15th, 2012 at 5:42 pm
Not sure I’m comfortable with a hire of any of the defensive coaches on Green Bay’s staff…
January 15th, 2012 at 5:42 pm
we are hiring Packers coaches. I told you weeks ago this would happen.
Except it and get behind it.
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I have to admit you make a compelling argument.
Mckenzie is a SMART guy.
I will be behind his decision 100 percent…
January 15th, 2012 at 5:42 pm
Jason Campbell is not coming back, and LOL at even suggesting such nonsense.
He got two years, failed to make the playoffs and got hurt frequently.
January 15th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
Trade Palmer to Houston for a third this year & the obligatory conditional in 2013. . .
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Why would Houston do that?
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Wouldn’t happen in a million years. I wish some team was dumb enough to give us a 3rd for him.
January 15th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 5:42 pm
Jason Campbell is not coming back, and LOL at even suggesting such nonsense.
He got two years, failed to make the playoffs and got hurt frequently.
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Dude, I was talking about Jamarcus!!!!
January 15th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
We could get a 2nd rounder tomorrow for Carson from at least a half dozen NFL teams.
No problem.
January 15th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
Debo,
Carson Palmer is the quarterback for the forseeable future. Hue saw to that trading a 1st and 2nd round pick.
Unfortuately they can’t undue the trade….so they roll with Palmer as Plan A, B, C and D.
Raiders couldn’t get another young QB if they wanted without the picks…..
Hope Carson holds up and can play at a high level for 3 or 4 years.
January 15th, 2012 at 5:47 pm
While the Raiders gave up waaaaaaaaaayyyy too much for Carson and have hurt their flexibility to improve the team….
The real problem is finding a coach to get anything out of this gang of check cashers
Wimbley = $10M per yr. – Ware = $11M per yr.
TK = $7M per yr. – Wilfork $8M per yr
Seymour = $15M per yr. – Ngata $12M per yr
Routt = $11M per yr – Revis $11.5M per yr
Huff = $8M per yr – Palomalu $9M per yr / Reed $7M per
January 15th, 2012 at 5:47 pm
you don’t trade a top-5 RB in his prime for a 50-50 chance draft pick, regardless of previous injury history.
Ask the Eagles if oft-injured McCoy is available for a mid-1st.
Is oft-injured Andre Johnson available for a mid-1st?
Is Gore available for a 1st?
Oft-injured Kenny Britt?
Come on.
January 15th, 2012 at 5:48 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
We could get a 2nd rounder tomorrow for Carson from at least a half dozen NFL teams.
No problem.
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No way in Hell!
January 15th, 2012 at 5:48 pm
Palmers a great QB get ova it, seriously we are not going to get a QB better than Palmer in free agency. If you have someone in mind, who?
And I don’t want to hear Flynn.
January 15th, 2012 at 5:49 pm
Not too inspired by any of those names as a HC. But there isn’t much out there either. Stupid Saints! You ruined my year so far. Let’s go G Men!
January 15th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
The Raiders are stuck with DMAC and his injury problems.
A responsible decision will be to bring in a Number 1.5 running back to back up and eventually start for the oft injured #1 pick from Arkansas
January 15th, 2012 at 5:51 pm
SnB Offense Defense Specialteams Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 5:47 pm
While the Raiders gave up waaaaaaaaaayyyy too much for Carson and have hurt their flexibility to improve the team….
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Some of the guys on the “protected list” might get dangled for picks…
January 15th, 2012 at 5:51 pm
I would be fine with Moss, Clements, and Perry.
January 15th, 2012 at 5:55 pm
faiders rebuilding for years. Walrus puss is going to do whatever he wants and wreck everything.
Good luck getting that stadium while your 4-12 team sucks for years!
January 15th, 2012 at 5:55 pm
The real problem is finding a coach to get anything out of this gang of check cashers
Wimbley = $10M per yr. – Ware = $11M per yr.
TK = $7M per yr. – Wilfork $8M per yr
Seymour = $15M per yr. – Ngata $12M per yr
Routt = $11M per yr – Revis $11.5M per yr
Huff = $8M per yr – Palomalu $9M per yr / Reed $7M per
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hahahahaha…. You expecting miracles…Gut the D…
Fire all the no performing assets…
January 15th, 2012 at 5:56 pm
Outtro 1 NATION
January 15th, 2012 at 5:56 pm
Thec,
Palmer is due $12.5MM next year. At 33 years old, I can’t see a team really putting out draft picks for the guy…or at least picks high enough to be worth our while.
The Jets and Cardinals are not going to give up on their young QBs just yet.
I think Shanahan is in for the long haul of developing a QB.
I don’t think the league sees Carson as an elite QB.
He has a lot of question marks…
He’s a good QB….but not a great one.
Raiders are better off just rolling on with him and I think Reggie will come to the same conclusion
January 15th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
Not sure there would even be a QB worth taking in the first round this year where we would of picked if we didn’t trade for Palmer. Does anyone know how the QBs rank after RG3 and Luck? Are there even any other first rounders?
January 15th, 2012 at 5:58 pm
thec07, fire all your coaches and hire similarly cra-ppy D coaches. Sure they get more turnovers but rank among the worst in the game.
Packers West is going to take a loooong time!
January 15th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
Maybe Reggie could talk Brett out of retirement.
January 15th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
QB is least of our worries. For a change.
January 15th, 2012 at 6:01 pm
Hey, Jerry… Houston’s Assistants are on the market, too!
January 15th, 2012 at 6:01 pm
Many are thinking about the team like we are operating under the same structure we have been for the past 48 years.We aren’t.You keep saying Reggie should hire this guy for HC,this guy for DC and this guy for OC.Reggie is only going to hire one guy-the head coach.The HC will then go out and hire his assistants.I know this might be difficult for some to understand because this team has never done that during your lifetime but that is how it works.
January 15th, 2012 at 6:03 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 5:42 pm
Jason Campbell is not coming back, and LOL at even suggesting such nonsense.
He got two years, failed to make the playoffs and got hurt frequently.
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Dude, I was talking about Jamarcus!!!!
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What is your bizarre obsession with that waste of life JaMarcus Russell? Dude’s a loser, and he’s not coming back to the NFL except as a “Don’t Be Like Me” speaker to rookie classes.
January 15th, 2012 at 6:04 pm
# Thec07 Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
3 of the 4 teams that remain are D strong…Who knew…
Its about the trench ladies…
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Thec…the voice of reason.
January 15th, 2012 at 6:06 pm
I can see Jamarcus becoming a minister and giving motivational speeches.
January 15th, 2012 at 6:06 pm
Wasn’t is nice watching Teebow getting his butt kicked, now we will stop hearing all that media maniac about him, I hated hearing all that hype. Here is too beating the donkeys twice in 2012. Want to get some coaches in here so we can start getting rid of all the check cashing jerks who have no Raider pride and too lazy.
January 15th, 2012 at 6:07 pm
All 4 teams left have top tier QBs-even if you don’t believe it.
January 15th, 2012 at 6:08 pm
Albert Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 6:06 pm
I can see Jamarcus becoming a minister and giving motivational speeches.
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Minister? Great, another waste of life. “Come worship me and my woo-woo imaginary sky-god!”
January 15th, 2012 at 6:12 pm
Someone who roots for the whiners and thinks the biggest bust in NFL history could be a motivational speaker.Speaks volumes about the person.
January 15th, 2012 at 6:13 pm
Ask the Eagles if oft-injured McCoy is available for a mid-1st.
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McCoy is oft-injured?
McFadden missed more games in December than McCoy has in 3 years.
January 15th, 2012 at 6:15 pm
lefty12 Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 6:01 pm
Many are thinking about the team like we are operating under the same structure we have been for the past 48 years.We aren’t.You keep saying Reggie should hire this guy for HC,this guy for DC and this guy for OC.Reggie is only going to hire one guy-the head coach.The HC will then go out and hire his assistants.I know this might be difficult for some to understand because this team has never done that during your lifetime but that is how it works.
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Right you are. It’s important that the HC be named quickly so HE can find assistants before the are all gone.
January 15th, 2012 at 6:15 pm
Lefty12, I don’t quite agree. McKenzie is going to pick a HC that has the same vision that he does. The two of them will work together to put together a staff that they feel can succeed. When you are the man in charge you have to hire people that are on the same page. This idea that the GM just hires a HC and then backs away is a recipe for failure.
January 15th, 2012 at 6:16 pm
palmer is our qb for the recent future..he may not be an elite qb..but two of the qbs playing next week are no better than palmer…so lets just get this defense going…its that simple lol
January 15th, 2012 at 6:17 pm
It was amazing watching the 49ers regain the lead with 8 seconds to play. What was even more amazing was watching Davis, #85, wearing his passion for the game on his face coming to the sidelines crying his eyes out. The hell with the bully attitued that Loser Hue tried to develop. Lets get some players that LOVE the game for the game itself. With that attitude victories will come all by themselves because not only would they love the game but love the other players on the team that had the same attitude. NO ONE on the Raiders team, be they staff or players, has an ounce of passion for the game compared to Mr. Davis of the 49ers. IT IS TIME TO RETURN THAT PASSION TO THE OAKLAND RAIDERS!!!! They had it under Madden, now McKenzie needs to get it back.
January 15th, 2012 at 6:18 pm
Reggie should hire Cowher for head coach, Gruden for offensive coordinator, and Tony Dungy to be defensive coordinator.
January 15th, 2012 at 6:19 pm
Pisto, DHB has that passion.
January 15th, 2012 at 6:19 pm
What has capers done in the past to make people think he would be a great coach for us are let alone what in the past has he done to make people think he’s some great defensive mind.
January 15th, 2012 at 6:19 pm
Twocents Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 6:15 pm
Lefty12, I don’t quite agree. McKenzie is going to pick a HC that has the same vision that he does. The two of them will work together to put together a staff that they feel can succeed. When you are the man in charge you have to hire people that are on the same page. This idea that the GM just hires a HC and then backs away is a recipe for failure.
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2¢, you may be right but Reggie did say the HC would be picking the assistants. I guess it could be where the HC picks the assistants and Reggie says he’ll be OK – put him on payroll.
January 15th, 2012 at 6:20 pm
Canadianraider Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 6:16 pm
palmer is our qb for the recent future..he may not be an elite qb..but two of the qbs playing next week are no better than palmer…so lets just get this defense going…its that simple lol
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Palmer doesn’t hold a candle to any QB left in the tournament.
January 15th, 2012 at 6:21 pm
JohnnyRaider Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 6:06 pm
Wasn’t is nice watching Teebow getting his butt kicked, now we will stop hearing all that media maniac about him, I hated hearing all that hype. Here is too beating the donkeys twice in 2012. Want to get some coaches in here so we can start getting rid of all the check cashing jerks who have no Raider pride and too lazy.
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Won’t happen. He’ll be benched by week 6. Print that!
January 15th, 2012 at 6:22 pm
Debo, you are truly delusional.
January 15th, 2012 at 6:23 pm
Tebow has too much value & heart for Denver not to play hm. He’ll just be converted to RB and he’ll still be a pain in our a$$.
January 15th, 2012 at 6:26 pm
Good post, Lefty12. Reggie is going to restructure the Raiders to be like a regular NFL franchise. No more autocratic owner that lost it a while ago. No more snakes for HC. No more owner’s guys on the payroll. And hopefully no more players that lie down. R will choose the HC and get the players. The HC will choose his staff and coach the players. The players won’t be on scholarship. And they will have to deal with the head coach instead of being able to bypass him, because Al is gone. Jackson screwed the draft up and the rebuild will take some time. But in the end you’ll have a team that is competitive and disciplined.
January 15th, 2012 at 6:28 pm
before todays shoke job by the pack, I wasn’t impressed by the idea of Moss or Perry, after todays game that impression hasn’t changed…
either McKenzie sees something in them that nobody sees, or he’s a disaster in gm waiting to happen….
January 15th, 2012 at 6:28 pm
JB Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 6:23 pm
Tebow has too much value & heart for Denver not to play hm. He’ll just be converted to RB and he’ll still be a pain in our a$$.
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That’s a possibility.
January 15th, 2012 at 6:28 pm
I’m not worried about the lack of draft choices this upcoming year. Instead of spending $’s on potentially god rookie players we can spend it on known commodity FA’s. We’re reloading!
January 15th, 2012 at 6:29 pm
Twocents,Reggie said the HC will pick his staff.We don’t have the old man dictating to the people he hires any longer.We are going to function like most teams.Once a HC is hired,he will be allowed to do his job.No more interference from upstairs.I don’t agree Reggie will be involved.His job will be to get and sign players and if the HC fails,replace him.
January 15th, 2012 at 6:30 pm
Al was interested in Moss last year.
January 15th, 2012 at 6:33 pm
Reggie Mac made it clear in the presser that he will attack the Free Agency and undrafted list. If I was Reggie Mac, give me 5 moves on offense. The rest of the moves should be completely on DEFENSE!
On offense give me an additional:
1)Left guard or a proven center. Either one will do. If we get a left guard, move Wiz2 to center. If we get a Center, leave Wiz 2 at left guard. Some of you don’t realize that all that success M Bush had against SD the first time, was with Wiz2 NOT Satele at Center.
2)Right guard or Right tackle. Move Carlisle to the backup spot. Say goodbye to Khalif “lame brain” Barnes.
Elevate Bruce Campbell to either the Right Guard or Right Tackle spot.
Possible Free Agent Candidates are: G Carl Nicks(New Orleans), C Nick Hardwick(San Diego), G Ben Grubbs(Baltimore), T Jared Gaither(San Diego), T Max Starks(Pittsburgh)
3)Let Schilens go and acquire a proven veteran, receiver who can compliment Denarius Moore on the other side. DHB has made strides, but until he can catch the ball effectively with his hands and stop unnecessarily jumping in the air to catch the ball, he should be the 3rd or 4th option.
I like Vincent Jackson. A WR tandem of Jackson and Moore is formidable and definitely stretches the defense.
4)Darren Mcfadden obviously needs a proven backup of starter quality since he is injury prone. I like Bush, but do not franchise Michael Bush. Let Michael Bush go and get me MARSHAWN “BEASTMODE” LYNCH!
Bush made 2 million last season and Marshawn made 1 million last year. Give me Mcfadden and Marshawn outta the backfield and dare somebody on defense to try and tackle them for 4 quarters!
5) Try to keep Jason and make it a LEGITIMATE competition against Carson Palmer. Or bring in Matt Flynn because I really don’t see Jason Campbell staying.
Those 5 moves shore up our O-line, QB, RB and WR positions.
You think our offense was good the last two seasons? Well imagine an offense of Palmer/Flynn, D Moore, V Jackson, Mcfadden, Lynch, Ford, Boss, Reece, DHB, and Taiwan Jones, anchored by a solid, proven offensive line!
Opposing defensive coordinators will lose sleep for weeks trying to stop that offense for 4 quarters.
January 15th, 2012 at 6:33 pm
I wouldn’t be surprised to see J.Campbell go to the Broncos to compete for the QB spot.
January 15th, 2012 at 6:33 pm
Pal,er> A.Smith and Flaco… fact. give him a full camp with a real HC and supporting crew and watch. I have spoken.
January 15th, 2012 at 6:34 pm
*Palmer* sorry typing too fast…
January 15th, 2012 at 6:34 pm
I’m rooting for the Giants and Patriots. Quick question: who would you root for if it was the hated 49ers vs. the hated Patriots?
January 15th, 2012 at 6:34 pm
can someone explain how the packer defense is impresive that it warrants us getting their coaches?
give me a break.
January 15th, 2012 at 6:35 pm
I think it would be nice to see Brady hoist his 4th Super Bowl Trophy in front of the 49er team.
January 15th, 2012 at 6:35 pm
Richard Bentley Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 6:26 pm
Good post, Lefty12. Reggie is going to restructure the Raiders to be like a regular NFL franchise. No more autocratic owner that lost it a while ago. No more snakes for HC. No more owner’s guys on the payroll. And hopefully no more players that lie down. R will choose the HC and get the players. The HC will choose his staff and coach the players. The players won’t be on scholarship. And they will have to deal with the head coach instead of being able to bypass him, because Al is gone. Jackson screwed the draft up and the rebuild will take some time. But in the end you’ll have a team that is competitive and disciplined.
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So? Who gives a damn if we’re structured like other teams? Having a GM doesn’t guarantee a damn thing. Ask Buffalo, Cleveland, Miami, or St. Louis. How did Matt Millen turn out? Hope Reggie can get it done, but I’d curb my enthusiasm if I were you. He’s got a lot prove, especially after firing Hue.
January 15th, 2012 at 6:36 pm
If Moss is hired as HC it wouldn’t surprise me in the least if the only person he brought with him from GB is Clements as OC.He could then go out and get someone like Thurman as DC.These guys have contacts around the league and will use them.
January 15th, 2012 at 6:36 pm
Speaking of bad effort, was the 15-1 Packers that bad, or did the Giants make them that bad? I think it was a combination of both.
January 15th, 2012 at 6:39 pm
No Mas Diamante Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 6:33 pm
Pal,er> A.Smith and Flaco… fact. give him a full camp with a real HC and supporting crew and watch. I have spoken.
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Palmer can’t hold Flacco’s jock! How many playoff wins does that guy have? Hell, Alex Smith led his team to a playoff win yesterday. Palmer hasn’t come close to doing that in nine years!! Ten offseasons won’t change that.
January 15th, 2012 at 6:39 pm
Funny how we had another great Head Coach slip from underneath us like Jim Harbaugh. Funny how Al Davis preached about winning, but always chose stooges for Head Coaches. I hope Mark Davis is smarter than his father was.
January 15th, 2012 at 6:41 pm
Beach-that is easy-NE.To be honest I’d root for SD or KC over the whiners even though it would hurt like hell.
January 15th, 2012 at 6:41 pm
eli killed em on 3rd down and the front four of the giants are beasts
that should have been a blow out refs had to save face for the pack gaints dominated
we should have went big and traded three first rounders for eli, rogers, brady
January 15th, 2012 at 6:42 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 6:39 pm
No Mas Diamante Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 6:33 pm
Pal,er> A.Smith and Flaco… fact. give him a full camp with a real HC and supporting crew and watch. I have spoken.
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Palmer can’t hold Flacco’s jock! How many playoff wins does that guy have? Hell, Alex Smith led his team to a playoff win yesterday. Palmer hasn’t come close to doing that in nine years!! Ten offseasons won’t change that.
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How many playoff appearances does JaMarcus Russell have? 0. Doesn’t stop you from tonguing his cornhole every chance you get….
January 15th, 2012 at 6:45 pm
Lefty12 Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 6:41 pm
Beach-that is easy-NE.To be honest I’d root for SD or KC over the whiners even though it would hurt like hell.
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You are a jack ass if you would root for an AFC West team over the 49ers.
January 15th, 2012 at 6:47 pm
No you are for rooting for the whiners over anyone.
January 15th, 2012 at 6:50 pm
niners and giants are going to knock the piss out of each other its gonna be fun to watch
easiest road to the superbowl for NE they own baltimore and flacco just sux
January 15th, 2012 at 6:51 pm
If was a regular season game and could make a difference with us making the play-offs or not that would be one thing.But,once we aren’t involved and the game would have no bearing on the Raiders,I’d root for ANY team to beat the whiners including all teams from our division and the stealers.
January 15th, 2012 at 6:51 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 6:42 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 6:39 pm
No Mas Diamante Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 6:33 pm
Pal,er> A.Smith and Flaco… fact. give him a full camp with a real HC and supporting crew and watch. I have spoken.
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Palmer can’t hold Flacco’s jock! How many playoff wins does that guy have? Hell, Alex Smith led his team to a playoff win yesterday. Palmer hasn’t come close to doing that in nine years!! Ten offseasons won’t change that.
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How many playoff appearances does JaMarcus Russell have? 0. Doesn’t stop you from tonguing his cornhole every chance you get….
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Raiderdumfck,
Kind of hard to win a playoff game when you get cut after THREE YEARS! San Francisco provides a great example of how patience with your #1 overall pick can lead to the SB.
January 15th, 2012 at 6:52 pm
JB Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 6:28 pm
I’m not worried about the lack of draft choices this upcoming year. Instead of spending $’s on potentially god rookie players we can spend it on known commodity FA’s. We’re reloading!
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I wouldn’t go wild on the free agent spending. Realistically a few smaller acquisitions on the lines are about it.
Big splashy free agents don’t work out very well…gotta build a team
This won’t be done in a day
January 15th, 2012 at 6:52 pm
I would rather see the 49ers win the next 4 Super Bowls than ever see the Chargers win one.
January 15th, 2012 at 6:55 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 6:51 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 6:42 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 6:39 pm
No Mas Diamante Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 6:33 pm
Pal,er> A.Smith and Flaco… fact. give him a full camp with a real HC and supporting crew and watch. I have spoken.
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Palmer can’t hold Flacco’s jock! How many playoff wins does that guy have? Hell, Alex Smith led his team to a playoff win yesterday. Palmer hasn’t come close to doing that in nine years!! Ten offseasons won’t change that.
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How many playoff appearances does JaMarcus Russell have? 0. Doesn’t stop you from tonguing his cornhole every chance you get….
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RaiderDuck,
Kind of hard to win a playoff game when you get cut after THREE YEARS! San Francisco provides a great example of how patience with your #1 overall pick can lead to the SB.
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So if he’s such a talent, how come no NFL team signed him after he was brought in for a workout this season?
Oh, wait a minute. He wasn’t in any workouts. Let me rephrase the question:
So if he’s such a talent, how come no NFL team even brought him in for a workout this season?
How come no NFL team signed him to a futures deal?
How come no NFL team has brought him in since he showed up for the Dolphins workout in 2010 weighing 292 pounds?
Why are you wasting your time pining after this no-talent loser?
January 15th, 2012 at 6:59 pm
bush needs to lose about 20 lbs and become our featured back and get what we can for mcfadden
conditioning coach needs to get a hold of seymour ,mcclain, and bush asap
January 15th, 2012 at 7:01 pm
You probably live down there.If you were a Raider diehard and lived in the Bay Area or northern Calif.,you couldn’t feel that way.
January 15th, 2012 at 7:03 pm
please no overpaid freeagents
undrafted rookies should get a hard look this year
January 15th, 2012 at 7:03 pm
505-let Bush go.After watching all the lead backs for all the teams this weekend it became even more apparent Bush is nothing but a back-up.He looks slow hitting holes compared to every back I watched this weekend.Let someone else overpay for him.
January 15th, 2012 at 7:05 pm
Hue should have been given the opportunity to pick his own staff at least for one year. He would have done better that any new coach we get picking his new staff. Out of dignity coach Jackson should have been afforded that opportunity.
Very low blow by Davis and Reggie to do that to Hue.
January 15th, 2012 at 7:05 pm
Lefty12 Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 7:03 pm
505-let Bush go.After watching all the lead backs for all the teams this weekend it became even more apparent Bush is nothing but a back-up.He looks slow hitting holes compared to every back I watched this weekend.Let someone else overpay for him.
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Franchise Bush. We’ll need still need him the next time DMac trips over a dust bunny and misses six games.
January 15th, 2012 at 7:06 pm
Ogre Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 7:05 pm
Hue should have been given the opportunity to pick his own staff at least for one year. He would have done better that any new coach we get picking his new staff. Out of dignity coach Jackson should have been afforded that opportunity.
Very low blow by Davis and Reggie to do that to Hue.
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I was a Hue fan, but obviously Reggie felt he couldn’t trust him not to go to Mike Silver and his other buddies in the media the first time Reggie made a call Hue disagreed with.
January 15th, 2012 at 7:06 pm
Lefty, I grew up in Idaho, and hated the Seahawks with a passion. I always kind of like the 49ers as my favorite NFC team.
January 15th, 2012 at 7:07 pm
Albert Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 6:45 pm
Lefty12 Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 6:41 pm
Beach-that is easy-NE.To be honest I’d root for SD or KC over the whiners even though it would hurt like hell.
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Problem is , Albert, u living in Chicago can’t understand bay area folk. If you are a true Raider Nation fan, you detest the ass blowing niners. Period, Period.
January 15th, 2012 at 7:07 pm
Duck,we can get someone with a low round pick or even in undrafted FA to backup McFadden.Why overpay for a backup RB when they are a dime a dozen.
January 15th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
59.realtruraider Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
Whats Capers record as HC? I know it wasn’t great, does anybody know?
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Yeah. It is 48-80.
January 15th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 7:06 pm
Ogre Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 7:05 pm
Hue should have been given the opportunity to pick his own staff at least for one year. He would have done better that any new coach we get picking his new staff. Out of dignity coach Jackson should have been afforded that opportunity.
Very low blow by Davis and Reggie to do that to Hue.
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I was a Hue fan, but obviously Reggie felt he couldn’t trust him not to go to Mike Silver and his other buddies in the media the first time Reggie made a call Hue disagreed with.
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Maybe I’m not giving Reggie enough credit for that one. Prolly true.
January 15th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
hes too heavy and he needs to be in better shape if hes gonna be a back up for mcfadden or the sole rb
because i didnt see anyone giving him a spell down the stretch
January 15th, 2012 at 7:09 pm
ArmchairGM #120
You read my mind. I agree almost 100%.
January 15th, 2012 at 7:09 pm
palmer is better than given credit-he had ocho/owens clown act going on in cincy. reason wasnt going back as well- give him a chance-best deep pass plays ive seen since the snake or the mad bomber!
January 15th, 2012 at 7:10 pm
That sounds like a personal problem Albert.Nobody can say they are a real Raider fan and ever root for the whiners.
January 15th, 2012 at 7:12 pm
Lefty, can’t have a hatred for the 49ers unless you live in the Bay Area.
January 15th, 2012 at 7:13 pm
As I said,that sounds like a personal problem.
January 15th, 2012 at 7:13 pm
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Problem is , Albert, u living in Chicago can’t understand bay area folk. If you are a true Raider Nation fan, you detest the ass blowing niners. Period, Period.
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I too live in the midwest, but the only Bears games i’ve gone to are when they have played the Raiders.
I too hate the niners just for the fact that so many of my Raider bro’s hate ‘em. Gotta stick together.
But, I have to admit not as much as I hate the other AFC West teams.
January 15th, 2012 at 7:14 pm
Pistol9 Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 6:17 pm
It was amazing watching the 49ers regain the lead with 8 seconds to play. What was even more amazing was watching Davis, #85, wearing his passion for the game on his face coming to the sidelines crying his eyes out. The hell with the bully attitued that Loser Hue tried to develop. Lets get some players that LOVE the game for the game itself. With that attitude victories will come all by themselves because not only would they love the game but love the other players on the team that had the same attitude. NO ONE on the Raiders team, be they staff or players, has an ounce of passion for the game compared to Mr. Davis of the 49ers. IT IS TIME TO RETURN THAT PASSION TO THE OAKLAND RAIDERS!!!! They had it under Madden, now McKenzie needs to get it back.
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What was even more amazing was watching Orleans go into the Bresnahan D (djohnnyg) on the final niner drive when they know it doesn’t work, cause it fails. Total brain dead move on the part of the Orleans D staff. They have got to be absolutely sick about it.
N.O. front office tomorrow: we are firing the entire D staff because they used the Bresnahan prevent on the final drive and we cannot any longer feel obligated to employ such stupidity.
January 15th, 2012 at 7:15 pm
DJohny, were you at the game in 2003 when Korell Stewart brought the Bears back to win with a field goal? I was there.
January 15th, 2012 at 7:18 pm
Albert,if you want to root for those scumbag whiners,that is your prerogative,but you shouldn’t come on a Raider blog and do it.
January 15th, 2012 at 7:19 pm
Defense wins championship!
January 15th, 2012 at 7:20 pm
I don’t root for the 49ers. I do want them to beat the Giants, though. I have never liked New York teams.
January 15th, 2012 at 7:21 pm
The regional thing adds alot to a guys hatred of another team. It’s no so much the team, it’s the fans of those teams.
Where I live, there are so many dang cocky Packer fans that I was elated to see them go down today.
In Wisconsin the Packers are literally many people’s identity. I’m serious. They live and die with the Pack. People get buried in Packer coffins or with GB jerseys on instead of suits.
In Wis. they ran a poll recently of who was the most popular “person”. Aaron Rodgers was # 2 next to Jesus, but it was close.
True Fact #2: Cases of domestic violence go up 40 % on nights the Packers lose.
January 15th, 2012 at 7:22 pm
New York Giants are far superior to the niners in all areas. Giant defense able to stifle Rodgers, Smith will be no problem.
Niners limped by Orleans with the help of 5 turnovers, ala gannonesque, and still woulda beat them if the Orleans had not employed the Bresnahan Prevent.
I’m givin the Giants 14 over SF.
January 15th, 2012 at 7:24 pm
165-the last 10 SBs don’t support your statement.
January 15th, 2012 at 7:26 pm
wasbanned Says:
January 14th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
Giants beat the Pack.
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Nailed this pick.
wasbanned Says:
January 13th, 2012 at 7:57 pm
Here is a name I’m throwing out for HC
Perry Fewell
He is the current DC for the NY Giants. He has served as DC on a few team and they have always done well statistically.
He also served as interim HC for the Bills to finish out 2009 season. He was 3-4 as a head coach.
He has been with the Giants since then.
Hope he is on Reggie’s radar.
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If Giants get to/or win the Super Bowl this guy will get a shot to coach somewhere.
Has that defense playing great right now.
January 15th, 2012 at 7:26 pm
163.Albert Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 7:15 pm
DJohny, were you at the game in 2003 when Korell Stewart brought the Bears back to win with a field goal? I was there.
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No. That was one I missed. I was at the one where Ray Guy came in an played QB. Man that game sucked, also the one where Butler missed a 28 yard chip shot at the end.
Not to date myself, but I was at the game Art Whittington ran the ball in for a TD in OT for a 25-19 win.
Monte Johnson gave me a thumbs up when I yelled his name while he was walking down the tunnel with Madden.
January 15th, 2012 at 7:27 pm
DJohnnyg, you are old.
January 15th, 2012 at 7:29 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
After watching football this weekend, it amazes me that people on this board actually think Carson Palmer is even is even close to being an elite QB.
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do you actually watch Raider games? On the last week of the season in a must win game Palmer was 28 of 43 for 417 yards and a TD. 65% completion percentage, 9+ yards an attempt. And when we had to have it a laser TD. That is pretty damn good if you ask me.
January 15th, 2012 at 7:30 pm
# lefty12 Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 6:51 pm
If was a regular season game and could make a difference with us making the play-offs or not that would be one thing.But,once we aren’t involved and the game would have no bearing on the Raiders,I’d root for ANY team to beat the whiners including all teams from our division and the stealers.
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Lefty that’s exactly how I feel about the Niners…
January 15th, 2012 at 7:30 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 7:29 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
After watching football this weekend, it amazes me that people on this board actually think Carson Palmer is even is even close to being an elite QB.
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do you actually watch Raider games? On the last week of the season in a must win game Palmer was 28 of 43 for 417 yards and a TD. 65% completion percentage, 9+ yards an attempt. And when we had to have it a laser TD. That is pretty damn good if you ask me.
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Debo doesn’t watch Raider games. Instead, she reads Al/JaMarcus slash fiction.
January 15th, 2012 at 7:31 pm
Giants pummelled the Pack, and the are a lot more seasoned than the green horned niners. Eli is crafty and will pick apart san frans defense.
Giant defense will have Smith rushing his throws, they’ll sack him several times, and smith will be playing in a soiled uniform.
Orleans had sf beat. But why on earth they chose to go Bresnahan with their coverage is beyond reason. The sanity is of no consequence. Cept your season is done I suppose, but they should have thoght about that correctly.
Orlean D staff did not have their minds right. Feel bad for Sean Peyton. Hope he did some serious boot work after that embarassment.
January 15th, 2012 at 7:33 pm
163.Albert Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 7:15 pm
DJohny, were you at the game in 2003 when Korell Stewart brought the Bears back to win with a field goal? I was there.
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Yeah I guess. I was just a little kid at the Ray Guy game though.
I was very cute with my Raider hat, jacket, and # 21 jersey on i have to admit.
January 15th, 2012 at 7:35 pm
http://www.freepriesttjnow.org
Come on back buddy, lots of Raider needs discussing.
January 15th, 2012 at 7:35 pm
JB Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 6:22 pm
Debo, you are truly delusional.
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And a moron. Or more possibly, MR coming on the blog in one of his alter ego’s to spew idiotic sh**.
January 15th, 2012 at 7:36 pm
good post Seymour
January 15th, 2012 at 7:36 pm
DJohnny, I’m jealous of you. You got to see the Raiders win Super Bowls. I was too young to appreciate them.
January 15th, 2012 at 7:36 pm
# JB Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 7:09 pm
ArmchairGM #120
You read my mind. I agree almost 100%.
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Thanks JB.
What additions or subtractions would you make to my list on offense? You might see something I overlooked.
I think our offense is on the cusp of being top 5 in the league in my opinion. Our defense, on the other hand, needs a complete system, and 60 percent roster overhaul.
January 15th, 2012 at 7:38 pm
I hope the Oakland press starts asking Mckenzie the tough questions.
What does he feel is so special about the Packers’ D coaches ability to coach up a D? Didn’t they have plenty of outstanding pieces on D?
Woodson, Raji, Matthews, Hawk, Tramon Williams, Pickett.
If you can’t coach that up, what the heck are you going to do with our guys?
January 15th, 2012 at 7:39 pm
Man I can’t believe some of the things posted here.
Carson Palmer is a great QB. Need to set him up and he WILL WIN CHAMPIONSHIPS!!
These playoffs ought to tell most of you how important a great QB is to ANY team. Not the freakin’ jockstrap rejects we fielded before Campbell got here, and CP is way better than JC – Now our new OC who ever that is needs to make a plan and scheme just for him and compliment the running game. Passers win games, not a RB that works half a year – except maybe Bo Jackson.
January 15th, 2012 at 7:42 pm
Texans offense was TERRIBLE once they got to their #3 QB of the season. Lost to the COLTS, Titans, and Panthers. No one’s calling for Kubiak’s head, right?
This offense will improve from 16 to top 10 next year with a normal off-season.
January 15th, 2012 at 7:42 pm
505raiders Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 6:50 pm
niners and giants are going to knock the piss out of each other its gonna be fun to watch
easiest road to the superbowl for NE they own baltimore and flacco just sux
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Nailed it. NE will win another one.
January 15th, 2012 at 7:44 pm
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January 15th, 2012 at 7:46 pm
got my wish that the Packs lost today. Now we can go ahead and get our coaching staff out of the way. Moss HC, Perry DC and retain Saunders. 1 goal from the GM on down. No more dramas. What a breath of fresh air.
January 15th, 2012 at 7:48 pm
alex7 Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 7:42 pm
Texans offense was TERRIBLE once they got to their #3 QB of the season. Lost to the COLTS, Titans, and Panthers. No one’s calling for Kubiak’s head, right?
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HJ is gone. He made his own mess. I see you’re still bitter. That #3 is a rookie QB. Amazing that they were able to keep that offense together and won their FIRST playoff game. Not a QB that Kubiak gave a first and 2nd for. Grow some balls and man up will ya?
January 15th, 2012 at 7:50 pm
alex7 Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 7:38 pm
I hope the Oakland press starts asking Mckenzie the tough questions.
What does he feel is so special about the Packers’ D coaches ability to coach up a D? Didn’t they have plenty of outstanding pieces on D?
Woodson, Raji, Matthews, Hawk, Tramon Williams, Pickett.
If you can’t coach that up, what the heck are you going to do with our guys?
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Didnt they win a ring with that group/scheme and went to the playoff this year? Good enough for me.
Raider fans would be jizzing over themselves if we ever made it to the playoff.
January 15th, 2012 at 7:51 pm
aig-raiders Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 7:46 pm
got my wish that the Packs lost today. Now we can go ahead and get our coaching staff out of the way. Moss HC, Perry DC and retain Saunders. 1 goal from the GM on down. No more dramas. What a breath of fresh air.
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PACKER D STAFF EXPOSED BY MANNING. YOU REALLY WANT THEM?
January 15th, 2012 at 7:54 pm
Raiderbuck Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 7:39 pm
Man I can’t believe some of the things posted here.
Carson Palmer is a great QB. Need to set him up and he WILL WIN CHAMPIONSHIPS!!
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Thank you Raiderbuck. Finally a voice of reason shows up .
January 15th, 2012 at 7:54 pm
0ooOoo0 Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 7:51 pm
aig-raiders Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 7:46 pm
got my wish that the Packs lost today. Now we can go ahead and get our coaching staff out of the way. Moss HC, Perry DC and retain Saunders. 1 goal from the GM on down. No more dramas. What a breath of fresh air.
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PACKER D STAFF EXPOSED BY MANNING. YOU REALLY WANT THEM?
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Give me Perry Fewell and get Mario Williams in here after taking out the trash, Slowlando and the rest of the sorry bunch
January 15th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
Aig,
the Colts also won a ring.
Would we clamor for their “awesome coaches”?
Or can we pin most of the credit on the QBs of the Packers and Colts for those SB wins?
January 15th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
Packers assistants are on the market
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Wow, Packers lose and the D staff is put out to pasture. WTF We still got our DC, why the fck we need someone elses D staff?
January 15th, 2012 at 7:56 pm
I like the idea of letting bush walk If and only IF! We pick up marshawn beastmode lynch. Having him and mcfadden and throw in t.jones….words cant explain how good our offense will be. Is it possible for two rbs to have 1000yrd seasons on the same team becauss i can see that in lynch and mcfadden and t.jones get about 400. And i heard VJax is a cancer but he is a better option than Chaz.
January 15th, 2012 at 7:56 pm
Off topic, but I wanted to say that the Giants played very well; however, I have to believe the death of the son of one of GB’s beloved coaches had those players playing with heavy hearts.
This is a game of passion, like all championship sporting matches. The athlete must be consumed by a singleness of purpose both in his preparation and in his moment of participation. In a team sport, the difficulty of all participants achieving this singleness of purpose is an even greater challenge. In short, the needed focuc is ego-centric. There can be nothing more important than football, nothing more consuming of mind than beating one’s opponent, if only for one week and for 3.5 hours at the end of that week.
I think it had to have been very hard for this GB team to viscerally accept that this football game was the most important thing in their lives this week, no matter how hard they tried to tell themselves it was.
January 15th, 2012 at 7:56 pm
but if “getting to the playoffs” while giving up an NFL-RECORD-WORST passing yardage is “good enough”,
I guess you’d want to retain Chuck B. if Janikowski makes the FG vs the Lions and we’re in the playoffs too.
January 15th, 2012 at 7:56 pm
141. Albert, you have a funny way of looking at things. Foolish, I would say. You must be from another part of the country, right?
January 15th, 2012 at 7:56 pm
OOOOOOO
Yeah. I’d love to get that group. Manning has been on fire for weeks now. Wouldnt be surprised if Manning won it all. I got no problem with the GB crew. They won a SB and team got complacent. That’s how it normally goes.
January 15th, 2012 at 7:57 pm
Head coach preferences:
1) B. Cowher
2) W. Moss
3) H. Edwards
4) N. Saban
5) B. Stoops
January 15th, 2012 at 7:57 pm
Luv
awesome post.
Beware: Marshawn will re-sign long-term with Seattle. No way he wants to move and be a backup / 1.5
January 15th, 2012 at 7:58 pm
RR,
we have to laugh at #2 and #3.
What have they ever done?
January 15th, 2012 at 7:59 pm
It is up to the coaches to all be in sync and get the most out of the players, get them to rise to the occasion.
Coaches must be able to develope game plans, good ones. Coaches need to make wise adjustments.
Coaches need to know how to delegate.
Coaches need to handle pampered millionaire players.
Coaches need to build around what they got, not what they think they want, or better have the players to do so.
Coaches got to have a feel, timing, rythym for the game. They got to be right in time.
What a tall fckng order.
January 15th, 2012 at 7:59 pm
alex7 Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
Aig,
the Colts also won a ring.
Would we clamor for their “awesome coaches”?
Or can we pin most of the credit on the QBs of the Packers and Colts for those SB wins?
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Only an idiot would not want Tony Dungy and his crew. anyone from that group is 10x better than what we had in here since Gruden.
January 15th, 2012 at 7:59 pm
Trade McClain, Huff, Seymour, Mcfadden, and one of our TEs & one of our WRs [not named Moore].
January 15th, 2012 at 8:00 pm
Alex Smith and Joe Flacco are not elite QBs. They are both mediocre, but have great D’s to keep them in games.
January 15th, 2012 at 8:00 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 7:36 pm
# JB Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 7:09 pm
ArmchairGM #120
You read my mind. I agree almost 100%.
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Thanks JB.
What additions or subtractions would you make to my list on offense? You might see something I overlooked.
I think our offense is on the cusp of being top 5 in the league in my opinion. Our defense, on the other hand, needs a complete system, and 60 percent roster overhaul.
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• Schilens is gone to FA – no loss
• Murphy – I’d trade him for draft pick
• Ausberry – move him to a WR position or use more like Pats use Gankowski
• Wiz to Center
• Heyer resigned to LG
• Satele & Calisle to back-ups
• Barksdale to RT
• BCampbell to RG or cut him. No more sitting around and not progressing
• I’d absolutely love to get Lynch as the #2 RB
• I’d also take a look at TJones as a slot receiver, assuming his hands are OK. He’s OK to also fill as #3 RB
• I might also take a look at FA Desean Jackson to be the #1 WR
The offense needs to star using the TE and Reece more. They are solid weapons that were underutilized.
On the Defense:
Switch to 3-4 primary configuration & NEW DC. Pick up FA Aubrayo Franklin (NO) as starting NT with Houston & Kelly as BU. Seymour, Shaugnessy, Bryant & Moss at DE. ILB would be RoMac & Curry (Curry the blitzer/Romac in coverage) OLB Wimbley & FA Anthony Spencer (Dal) as OLB. The DB’s need to be reworked. Routt & Checkwa at CB, Branch @ SS and maybe look at DVD in the FS spot. Huff is available or FS or CB. Just some possibilities.
January 15th, 2012 at 8:01 pm
aig-raiders Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 7:56 pm
OOOOOOO
Yeah. I’d love to get that group. Manning has been on fire for weeks now. Wouldnt be surprised if Manning won it all. I got no problem with the GB crew. They won a SB and team got complacent. That’s how it normally goes.
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Cool. I hate complacency. Seen too much of it.
January 15th, 2012 at 8:03 pm
alex7 Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 7:58 pm
RR,
we have to laugh at #2 and #3.
What have they ever done?
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Herm Edwards have made the playoffs 6 times and won 2 of them. A whole lot more than the guy you are still crying about….Remember Hue Jack? The guy that inherited a team that you and everyone else thought was capable of making the playoffs in 2010 under Tom Cable?
January 15th, 2012 at 8:03 pm
alex7 Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 7:42 pm
Texans offense was TERRIBLE once they got to their #3 QB of the season. Lost to the COLTS, Titans, and Panthers. No one’s calling for Kubiak’s head, right?
This offense will improve from 16 to top 10 next year with a normal off-season.
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I would probably agree with this. Our offense regressed. It regressed in scoring offense from the year before and the team regressed as a whole as the season progressed. Do you remember the SD game where we couldn’t even get a play off right before time expired in the lst half? Did you see the NY Giants position themselves for a TD with proper time management in the game today? Do you remember we took a delay of game on a FG attempt against SD? And we took another delay of game the week before that negated a 45 yard trick play TOUCHDOWN on a FG attempt? How many delay of games and BS timeouts did you see today because the teams playing today were disorganized and had no idea of time, down and distance?
January 15th, 2012 at 8:03 pm
165, When Tom Brady is hoisting the big Trophy on Feb. 5, tell me about defenses winning championships.
January 15th, 2012 at 8:04 pm
Where did NinerDebo go?? Back to the Niner blog!! He is crazy thinking Alex Smith is even close to being a top tier quarterback. He couldn’t hold the jock of any of the quarterbacks left in the playoffs. Niners defense carried that team this year. Smith barely did enough not
to lose games.
Yeah, I would root for Tebow to beat the Niners. And that’s pretty bad!! If you don’t live in the Bay Area, You just don’t understand!!
January 15th, 2012 at 8:05 pm
I would love to see the Giants-Patriots rematch in a Super Bowl. Would be awesome! Of course, all 49er fans are praying for a 49er-Raven rematch.
January 15th, 2012 at 8:05 pm
how many playoffs has palmer won compared to flacco?..are u kidding me?..here we are talking about what a good defense does for a team..u think raiders would be playoff bound if flacco were in oakland?..get ur head out of ur azz…seriously dude
January 15th, 2012 at 8:05 pm
CP can get us in the playoffs but a championship is up for debate
i dont think he is moble enough to escape playoff pressure and make the completion and not gamble
when the pocket collapses and it will unless we get him a wall this offseason he will gamble with the football and stare down the reciever
January 15th, 2012 at 8:06 pm
Cool. I hate complacency. Seen too much of it.
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It’s very hard to compete. A lot of stuff have to fall into place for you to even get there. I remember Marino thinking that he was going to be in the SB yearly after his first appearance. He never even sniffed another one.
If I was the coach on a SB winning team, I would jump ship right after.
January 15th, 2012 at 8:08 pm
Brady wants to join Bradshaw and Montana as the only QBs in NFL history with 4 Super Bowls. Only the Giants, I believe, have a chance.
January 15th, 2012 at 8:08 pm
canadianraider Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 8:05 pm
how many playoffs has palmer won compared to flacco?..are u kidding me?..here we are talking about what a good defense does for a team..u think raiders would be playoff bound if flacco were in oakland?..get ur head out of ur azz…seriously dude
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It is so crazy for people to just award the QB the win and not bother to look at how the team won. It’s like saying Trent Dilfer is better than Dan Marino because he won a ring.
January 15th, 2012 at 8:10 pm
any coach from GB would be an upgrade over Bres and hue so I won’t lose sleep if any one of them jumps ship to oak town.
Now, coaches alone will not get it done so here is my wish list with this year’s FA and trade market for next year:
1) Mario Williams
2) Dwight Freeney
3) Robert Mathis
4) Lance Briggs
5) Desean Jackson
6) VJack
Get two of these players here and we are in business and if u have to give up dmac in return, I can live with that.
January 15th, 2012 at 8:12 pm
Well, this will be an interesting week for sure.
No more waiting to interview all these Packer assts.
Now we’ll see if Winston Moss really is gonna be our HC, and if Darren Perry our DC. Or will it be Todd Bowles?
I have a feeling McKenzie is wanting Moss and it’s already pretty much a done deal and they were just waiting for GB’s season to end.
January 15th, 2012 at 8:12 pm
Giants are red hot. They got a very good and physical defensive team, a good group of WRs and a streaking QB. It will be Pats vs Giants.
January 15th, 2012 at 8:13 pm
canadianraider Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 8:05 pm
how many playoffs has palmer won compared to flacco?..are u kidding me?.
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Thank you. Based on that logic Matt Stafford and Cam Newton Suck complete ass and Tim Tebow IS the new messiah.
January 15th, 2012 at 8:15 pm
# alex7 Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 7:57 pm
Luv
awesome post.
Beware: Marshawn will re-sign long-term with Seattle. No way he wants to move and be a backup / 1.5
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Marshawn Lynch is from Oakland. If the money is right and Reggie is making good front office moves, I’m sure BEASTMODE can be enticed to come back and play for his hometown team wearing the legendary Silver and Black!
January 15th, 2012 at 8:16 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 8:13 pm
(tongue in cheek comment)”Tim Tebow IS the new messiah.
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No, he’s just the most famous white Bronco since O’J’s freeway escape.
January 15th, 2012 at 8:20 pm
Regarding that Giant-Packer Game officials could stop turn overs, they could ignore roughing the passer, they could take away Giant first downs, they could even pretend that field goals actually were successful when they were not.
But they couldn’t catch the ball for the GB receivers. – 8 drops, so the refs “Discount Double Cheat” calls didnt matter.
Let the coaching interviews begin on Manic Monday!
January 15th, 2012 at 8:21 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 8:13 pm
canadianraider Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 8:05 pm
how many playoffs has palmer won compared to flacco?..are u kidding me?.
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Thank you. Based on that logic Matt Stafford and Cam Newton Suck complete ass and Tim Tebow IS the new messiah.
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So, trade for Flacco? Palmer is the QB, and you really think Washington or Cleveland is taking that contract? Well, Washington, maybe.
January 15th, 2012 at 8:23 pm
just remember…top 5 scoring teams in nfl history have yet to win the superbowl
January 15th, 2012 at 8:24 pm
the refs are getting too many passes they need to be put in check by league or if comes down to it by some fans cuz cheating a football game is just UNAMERICAN
January 15th, 2012 at 8:24 pm
That blow to the head call on Osi was egregious….the ref was right there when he made that call, he should be suspended for that blatant bail out
January 15th, 2012 at 8:24 pm
JB Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 8:00 pm
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• Schilens is gone to FA – no loss
• Murphy – I’d trade him for draft pick
• Ausberry – move him to a WR position or use more like Pats use Gankowski
• Wiz to Center
• Heyer resigned to LG
• Satele & Calisle to back-ups
• Barksdale to RT
• BCampbell to RG or cut him. No more sitting around and not progressing
• I’d absolutely love to get Lynch as the #2 RB
• I’d also take a look at TJones as a slot receiver, assuming his hands are OK. He’s OK to also fill as #3 RB
• I might also take a look at FA Desean Jackson to be the #1 WR
The offense needs to star using the TE and Reece more. They are solid weapons that were underutilized.
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Now it’s my turn to return the favor. I agree with you about 100% as well.
I mentioned Vincent Jackson as opposed to Desean Jackson because Vincent is a bigger target being about 6′5 while Desean Jackson is about 5′10 or 11 I think. Denarius Moore is about 6′0 I think.
Desean also has the potential to bring the DIVA act to the team and I don’t know if we need that kind of attitude in the locker room.
But talent wise, Desean along Moore, Ford, Reece, Boss, Jones, Ausberry, DHB, Mcfadden and hopefully Marshawn Lynch would be a potential video game offense.
But we would need a strong, no nonsense, head coach to keep all those talented athlete’s heads on straight.
January 15th, 2012 at 8:26 pm
How could they not rule that fumble a fumble in the lst half of that GB NYG game? I gotta be honest with you guys I hate replay.
January 15th, 2012 at 8:27 pm
raidersam….read the rest of my post…i was implying that the ravens and 49ers might still be playin next week even if palmer was their qb
January 15th, 2012 at 8:27 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 8:24 pm
Now it’s my turn to return the favor. I agree with you about 100% as well.
I mentioned Vincent Jackson as opposed to Desean Jackson because Vincent is a bigger target being about 6′5 while Desean Jackson is about 5′10 or 11 I think. Denarius Moore is about 6′0 I think.
Desean also has the potential to bring the DIVA act to the team and I don’t know if we need that kind of attitude in the locker room.
But talent wise, Desean along Moore, Ford, Reece, Boss, Jones, Ausberry, DHB, Mcfadden and hopefully Marshawn Lynch would be a potential video game offense.
But we would need a strong, no nonsense, head coach to keep all those talented athlete’s heads on straight.
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Hey, i’m good with a Cal-Berkeley homecoming…DeSean and Marshawn Lynch?
good for the box-office….bye-bye Bush and/or McFadden for that matter if we can get picks for the latter.
January 15th, 2012 at 8:31 pm
Canadianraider Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 8:27 pm
raidersam….read the rest of my post…i was implying that the ravens and 49ers might still be playin next week even if palmer was their qb
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My bad – very emotional week seeing the Niners go and not the Raiders, and the fashion in which they won and we lost v. San Diego.
So, to that end, do you think our defense would take the next step with Moss (even though they got rolled by the Giants?)
or should the search widen to include a DC that was a head coach before (Nolan, Phillips?) Or Todd Bowles with Nolan (and just give in and out pay him – Nolan’s defense basically helped to end our playoff chance 2 years in a row)
January 15th, 2012 at 8:31 pm
If you just look at defense, Ravens 49ers look like your Super Bowl. But the QBs for NE and NY are far superior to the opponent, that I believe New England is the clear cut AFC Champ and NY is a slight favorite over SF.
January 15th, 2012 at 8:32 pm
Canadianraider Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 8:23 pm
just remember…top 5 scoring teams in nfl history have yet to win the superbowl
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Packers FIRST 15-1 team in NFL History to do a one and done.
unbelievable – im thinking “widen the coaching search, Reggie…PLEASE?”
January 15th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 8:26 pm
How could they not rule that fumble a fumble in the lst half of that GB NYG game? I gotta be honest with you guys I hate replay.
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What’d you expect? “Discount Double-Cheat.”
Only the Giants Michael Boley said “Discount Double-deez nuts!”
January 15th, 2012 at 8:35 pm
230.boss01 Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 8:24 pm
That blow to the head call on Osi was egregious….the ref was right there when he made that call, he should be suspended for that blatant bail out
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Exactly. He didn’t even come close to his head and wasn’t “late” either.
January 15th, 2012 at 8:37 pm
Beach Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 8:31 pm
If you just look at defense, Ravens 49ers look like your Super Bowl. But the QBs for NE and NY are far superior to the opponent, that I believe New England is the clear cut AFC Champ and NY is a slight favorite over SF.
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If that secondary plays the way it did v. the Saints – the Niners are going all the way. – They are hitting and forcing fumbles and knocking people out – the architecture led by Nolan (former Raven DC) as head coach and GM Scot McCloughan (who drafted Willis, Vernon Davis and Frank Gore) built this team to win, Alex Smith just got a little belief and confidence from a former QB
NY is favored probably because Eli can buy time with broken plays, but it depends on which Giant team shows up. They were Jekyll and Hyde all year…is this 2007 all over again?
January 15th, 2012 at 8:39 pm
ArmchairGM
I think we are on the same wavelength. I understand the 6′0″ vs. 6′5″ WR argument. I just see Jackson as much more explosive plus DJackspn wants out of Philly 7 I’m not sure VJackson is ready to leave SDGO. Fortunately, we have a QB who can get the ball to the smaller guy in the right place. Just think of DJackson & Ford at wide out with D-wow out of the Slot, DMac/Reece out of the backfield and Boss at TE. That’s a lot of firepower. The key to next year’s success is to have an O-line like the old days where the QB had all day. Our O-line can be that good given the right players.
I suspect that were are probably in the same age group as we think much alike. I too have seen the old teams, starting back in 1965 so I’ve been fortunate to have seen the good days. We will return – just have to keep the faith.
January 15th, 2012 at 8:40 pm
237.RaiderSam Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 8:32 pm
Canadianraider Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 8:23 pm
just remember…top 5 scoring teams in nfl history have yet to win the superbowl
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Packers FIRST 15-1 team in NFL History to do a one and done.
unbelievable – im thinking “widen the coaching search, Reggie…PLEASE?”
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I think it just came down to the Giants defense at full health playing a great game. You have to credit Giants coaching staff for coming up with game plan to stop Rodgers.
That, and the Packers vulnerable D finally catching up with them.
The GB D , while giving up tons of yardage during the season was one that made big plays at big moments.
They only had 29 sacks the entire year also.
That’s why it concerns me that we keep talking about wanting to pillage their defensive coaches, as if that is what we need to turn it around.
January 15th, 2012 at 8:44 pm
JB Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 8:00 pm
On the Defense:
Switch to 3-4 primary configuration & NEW DC. Pick up FA Aubrayo Franklin (NO) as starting NT with Houston & Kelly as BU. Seymour, Shaugnessy, Bryant & Moss at DE. ILB would be RoMac & Curry (Curry the blitzer/Romac in coverage) OLB Wimbley & FA Anthony Spencer (Dal) as OLB. The DB’s need to be reworked. Routt & Checkwa at CB, Branch @ SS and maybe look at DVD in the FS spot. Huff is available or FS or CB. Just some possibilities.
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I agree as well for the most part. The primary thing we need for a successful switch to a 3-4 is an effective NT. Using Reggie’s own words and looking at the free agent market of PROVEN talent, this is who will be available…
NT Aubrayo Franklin (New Orleans)
NT Paul Soliai (Miami)
NT Red Bryant (Seattle)
NT Antonio Garay (San Diego)
I would like to add an experienced DB. Carlos Rogers and Cortland Finnegan are both available. San Francisco will almost certainly resign Rogers long term if they have any sense, so I would like to see us go after Finnegan from Tennessee.
But if it was possible, I would cut Routt if we had a legitimate chance to pry Rogers away from SF. Very interested to see if Chekwa can come back strong next season as well.
Mario Williams will be a free agent as well but his asking price will undoubtedly be way too high. And yes Spencer from Dallas would be a good pick up.
With some good coaches and about a dozen roster moves we can compete for the AFC Championship next year, with a Superbowl realistically the season after that!
January 15th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
ArmchairGM,
Let’s just type it up and overnight it to Reggie. We just made his job a lot easier. LOL
Gotta run but good taking football with you.
January 15th, 2012 at 8:52 pm
So here’s one possible scenario:
HC Todd Bowles
DC Mike Nolan
OC Al Saunders
Trade Darren McFadden for a 2nd and 5th
Trade Tommy Kelly for a 3rd
Trading McFadden and Kelly will clear somewhere around $10 million in cap room. They should also restructure the contracts of Richard Seymour, Michael Huff, Kamerion Wimbley, Stanford Routt, and Carson Palmer if they haven’t already.
Then they should re-sign SS Tyvon Branch, FB Marcel Reece, DL Desmond Bryant, OL Stephon Heyer, LS Jon Condo, and make a competitive offer to C Samson Satele and RB Michael Bush.
2 – RB Chris Polk, RB Doug Martin, RB David Wilson, DE/OLB Nick Perry, or DT/NT Dontari Poe, OLB/DE Ronnell Lewis
3 – DE/OLB Shea McLellin, DE/OLB Brandon Lindsay, RB Cyrus Gray, CB Leonard Johnson, or DT/NT Alameda Ta’amu
3 (compensatory) – OL Levy Adcock, OL Jeff Allen, or OL Lucas Nix
4 (compensatory) – OL Matt Ryan, OL Alex Hurst, or OL Josh Oglesby
5 – DT/NT Damon Harrison, DT/NT Mike Martin, or LB Adrien Cole
5 – S Blake Gideon. S Harrison Smith, or LB Chris Galippo
6 – RB Daniel Herron, RB Bobby Rainey, or RB Terrance Ganaway
The Raiders will need to go big in free agency in order to make a smooth transition to the 3-4 defense.
Sign NT Paul Soliai
Sign CB Brandon Carr
Sign QB Josh Johnson or QB Chad Henne
If Bush leaves, sign RB Mike Tolbert or RB BenJarvus Green-Ellis
Let go of WR T.J. Houshmanzadeh, QB Kyle Boller, OT Khalif Barnes, LB Darryl Blackstock, LB Ricky Brown, LB Quentin Groves, DE Trevor Scott, DT John Henderson, S Jerome Boyd, S Hiram Eugene, CB Bryan McCann, CB Lito Sheppard, and CB Chris Johnson.
January 15th, 2012 at 8:54 pm
JB 241-
No you have far more Raider experience and eyewitness history than I do my friend.
I was not even close to being thought of in 1965,lol. But I have much respect for all of the Raider Nation that was there to experience the beginning of our beloved franchise!
January 15th, 2012 at 8:57 pm
# JB Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
ArmchairGM,
Let’s just type it up and overnight it to Reggie. We just made his job a lot easier. LOL
Gotta run but good taking football with you.
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Will do JB. Enjoyed talking football with you as well! I might actually take your advice and really send it to Reggie!lol
Win Lose or Tie, Raider Til I Die!
January 15th, 2012 at 9:05 pm
FA will be interesting since we dont have alot of picks Reggie said he will look deep into FA
January 15th, 2012 at 9:06 pm
36.SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
Time for a HEAD coach that instills toughness and discipline.
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If Reggie is thinking this, then our next HC will be Todd Bowles.
January 15th, 2012 at 9:07 pm
I personally think that as of now, Bowles and/or Moss for HC and DC, retain Saunders at OC, trade Dmac and Palmer for draft picks, resign Bush and Campbell. Focus on D for the draft.
January 15th, 2012 at 9:09 pm
If its all about Reggie bringin in his buds, I don’t like it.
But if he brings in his guys I hope they can make it work. Maybe they been talkin about it for a few years or so. They all knew Reg was GM material, just a matter of time, so they been planning on this day.
But I cant help but wonder how dejected some of these GB coaches will be after losing at home to GB.
Well lets gets a moving and see what cookin. Chucky B still on board?
And one other question: what if the new HC wanted to keep Hue, or, why wasn’t the entire D staff fired too along with Hue?
I think it was a directive from Mark to have Reggie do the dirty work and make it look like it was on him.
Viva la Raidas’!
January 15th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
Who is the Raider capologist?
And what is Amy up to these days?
And if hererra is our PR dude, shouldn’t he be giving briefings at least once a day? What does he do? Maybe he is a rubix cube master.
January 15th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
I’m not a trade dmac proponent, first off he deserves one more shot next year.
Second, his injury was to the foot, had it been a knee, a hip or chilles, even concussions I could understand, but foot injuries happen to every player, just look at ford and dmoore, granted they didn’t miss half the season, well ford almost did. Dmac has the potential to be the best in the league. You don’t trade someone like that unless u can get two first rounders in return or a pro bowl player and a first or second. Teams obviously will have reservations especially after this year with all the injuries to backs this league.
January 15th, 2012 at 9:15 pm
Parting shot: They have to keep Palmer and he will be great because I just got an authentic CP #3 Jersey for the game. Have also already prepaid my 2012 season tickets which means I get to visit training camp next year as a perk. Maybe Reggie will be around and we can chat. LOL
January 15th, 2012 at 9:19 pm
Well it is good to be back. Went into such a nose dive depression after the SD game, wasn’t sure if I’d ever come out of it. But got some good meds from my Doc so I should be fine. He said not to watch any football, so I haven’t. Just know who won. Thats all. Does make me wanna puke that sf is in it. Don’t care about any of the other teams. Sorry to see Hue go. Glad we got a new gm. I am going to write Hue a letter and wish him luck. Going to be a long off season but as they say in baseball, hope springs eternal.
January 15th, 2012 at 9:20 pm
whats mcfadden pushing 225 pounds hes got some skinney legs and any injury to those legs should be a concern and now repeat injuries and the way he runs hes hard on his feet and ankles
January 15th, 2012 at 9:22 pm
49ers just beat a team with 0 playoff wins in its history. Now they face Tom Coughlin, who is one win shy of tying the coaches record for road playoff wins. These Giants know how to win on the road in January! Also, the 49ers great D gave up 32 points to a team that turned it over 5 times. I would not say they look unbeatable.
January 15th, 2012 at 9:22 pm
Raider O Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 9:11 pm
I hope we get the real second in command of the GB coaching staff W Moss, and not that loser DC called Capers.
January 15th, 2012 at 9:22 pm
comes down to $ and production with mcfadden got to do whats best for team
January 15th, 2012 at 9:24 pm
Mr. Rod Martin looks lean and mean, I think he could still play.
January 15th, 2012 at 9:25 pm
Miners will realize quick that the G-Men’s defense is quite different than NO.
Now I can root hard vs The Pats. Don’t like the Ravens either but dispose the Cheatriots.
Giants vs Ravens in SB.
Who is the Ravens D coordinator.
Jim H is a hell of a coach,mean, would slap any player who caused as many penalties as ours.
We need a mean tough coach.
Coughlin, belicheat,Harbaugh brothers. They don’t put up with crap.
January 15th, 2012 at 9:25 pm
what about tiki
January 15th, 2012 at 9:33 pm
evening nation,
I was in the keep hue camp,,, oh well.. the nation moves forward. I hope the new hc keeps Saunders and his eight hundred page Playbook!!! ..palmer will be fine ..way better arm than jcamp..the o. only needs tweaking,,, the d needs a Makeover …the raiders will be okay, even without draft picks
January 15th, 2012 at 9:34 pm
Obviously, the Giants did not need Tiki to be winners.
January 15th, 2012 at 9:34 pm
Nolan as DC or HC would work for me.
January 15th, 2012 at 9:36 pm
I think Reggie will acguire at least three more draft picks through trades for this year.
January 15th, 2012 at 9:36 pm
was askin if anyone thought tiki could still play never said giants needed him or he needs the giants
January 15th, 2012 at 9:41 pm
beach Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 9:22 pm
49ers just beat a team with 0 playoff wins in its history.
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??? Saints won the big one in 09. Regardless, giants gonna take down the niners and expose them for the frauds they are.
January 15th, 2012 at 9:44 pm
255. I understand, to an extent. It is just a game. There will be another season. I would prefer the 49ers not win another Super Bowl, but you or I have nothing to do with it. The Raiders need leadership at the top, something we really haven’t seen in 20 years. Hopefully, the next 20 years will be better for Raider fans!
January 15th, 2012 at 9:45 pm
268. 0 ROAD playoff wins, I mean!
January 15th, 2012 at 9:47 pm
Sure hope Reg and the new HC keep Lechler and Jani and don’t use them for trade bait for round picks or player aquisitions.
Nothing is out of the realm of possibilities. All the cards are on the table. Just wheel and deal baby!
January 15th, 2012 at 9:51 pm
Instead of going to Indianapolis for a Super Bowl repeat, the Green Bay Packers’ staff will coach the NFC all-stars in the Jan. 29 Pro Bowl in Honolulu after Sunday’s stunning 37-20 loss to the New York Giants in the divisional playoffs.
http://www.nfl.com/probowl/story/09000d5d82609a0d/article/packers-texans-staffs-to-coach-nfc-afc-allstars-in-honolulu?module=HP11_headline_stack
January 15th, 2012 at 9:57 pm
Packers’ loss could be Raiders’ gain
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post/_/id/38817/its-packers-open-season-in-oakland
January 15th, 2012 at 10:01 pm
On Sunday night, the Green Bay Packers’ 15-1 season came to a disappointing end when the New York Giants ran over the team, 37-20.
The Giants exposed many of the Packers’ flaws, especially on the defensive end.
Still, Green Bay is one of the league’s youngest teams and has a bright future.
Some personnel and draft decisions must be made, and here are five that absolutely must be made.
Draft a Defensive Lineman and Outside Linebacker
Bob Levey/Getty Images The Packers’ pass rush was absolutely terrible this season and as a result, offenses could just key in on stopping Clay Matthews.
A pass-rushing linebacker like Vinny Curry from Marshall or Bruce Irvin from West Virginia is a necessity. Even if he is just a situational rusher, look at the impact Aldon Smith had on the 49ers.
A pass-rushing defensive lineman is also a necessity, as the Packers could take Quinton Coples from UNC if he lasts until the end of the first round (28th overall).
Either way, a DL and OLB must both be taken before Day 2 is over.
Do Not Draft a Wide Receiver
Geoff Burke/Getty Images General manager Ted Thompson has a history of taking receivers in the draft, and it’s worked out pretty well. However, a newly drafted receiver would only be No. 5 on the depth chart.
The Packers don’t need another receiver selected with a high pick.
The No. 5 spot can be a battle between Tori Gurley and Diondre Borel, both UDFA rookies who took pay raises to stay with the Packers.
Cut Ties with Ryan Grant and Donald Driver
It’s always difficult to cut ties with a franchise legend, but it must be done. Driver’s $2.6 million salary is too much for the Packers to pay in 2012.
Grant had a chance of staying in 2012, but his recent fumble killed any chance of it.
The receiver and running back positions are crowded, and these two vets are the odd ones out.
Bring in One Quality Free Agent
Joe Robbins/Getty Images Ted Thompson is famous for building through the draft. But with this bad of a defense, he needs to pursue a big-name free agent.
One possibility would be Robert Mathis.
Mathis is getting up there in age, but still has enough in the tank at age 30. He’s also only 245 pounds, meaning he’d become an outside linebacker in Green Bay.
The Packers need additions to the defense, but they can’t only be done through the draft.
Bring in New Coaches
Reggie McKenzie is the new GM of the Raiders, and he seems primed to take a Packer coach or two with him to Oakland.
Among the possible people leaving are assistant coach Winston Moss, OC Joe Philbin, DC Dom Capers and secondary coach Darren Perry.
Losing either the offensive coordinator or defensive coordinator would be the biggest blows, but it’s inevitable that one or a few of these guys leaves.
Finding replacements will be key for the next season.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1025773-green-bay-packers-5-things-management-must-do-this-offseason#/articles/1025773-green-bay-packers-5-things-management-must-do-this-offseason/page/6
January 15th, 2012 at 10:03 pm
The Pros and Cons of Oakland Raiders Head Coach Candidates
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1023704-oakland-raiders-head-coach-candidates-the-pros-and-cons
January 15th, 2012 at 10:07 pm
UPDATE 2:37 p.m. ET: League spokesman Greg Aiello tells PFT that, in the week after the conference title games and before the Pro Bowl, assistant coaches from the Super Bowl teams may participate in second interviews. This means that if the assistant was interviewed by a team at some point before that week, he can be interviewed a second time. Thus, Joe Philbin could be interviewed for a second time by the Dolphins. Philbin and Moss will not be available for a first interview with the Raiders.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/category/rumor-mill/page/2/
January 15th, 2012 at 10:11 pm
The Raiders’ coaching search might have just been given an accelerant, thanks to the New York Giants.
Of course you remember Oakland’s new general manager Reggie McKenzie saying last week in his introductory media conference that he wanted “my guy.” And no one fits that profile better than the handful of candidates on Green Bay’s staff who’s season just ended, courtesy of their upset 37-20 loss to the Giants on Sunday.
The defending champion Packers, who went 15-1 in the regular season, were expected to advance at least to the Super Bowl, which would have delayed McKenzie being able to interview any of them. Now…
McKenzie, who was wearing one of his Packers Super Bowl championship ring in Alameda last Tuesday, is free to to start scheduling interviews with any of his old guys.
Among those Packers assistants linked to the Raiders gig — assistant head coach/ inside linebackers Winston Moss, defensive coordinator Dom Capers, secondary/safeties Darren Perry and offensive coordinator Joe Philbin.
A potential speed bump, though, is that Green Bay’s staff is now obligated to coach the NFC roster in the Pro Bowl in two weeks as the staff of the highest seed eliminated in the divisional round assumes such responsibilities, hence New England and Atlanta coaching in Honolulu last year.
Former Miami Dolphins interim coach Todd Bowles reportedly interviewed with McKenzie on Friday.
http://www.csnbayarea.com/blog/raiders-talk/post/Packers-playoff-loss-may-accelerate-Raid?blockID=631934&feedID=2801
January 15th, 2012 at 10:14 pm
The Raiders’ search for a head coach should heat up this week, courtesy of the New York Giants.When the Giants beat the Green Bay Packers 37-20 Sunday at Lambeau Field, Packers assistant coaches Winston Moss, Joe Philbin, Dom Capers and Tom Clements became available for head coaching interviews.
http://www.contracostatimes.com/raiders
January 15th, 2012 at 10:16 pm
http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders/ci_19069489
January 15th, 2012 at 10:19 pm
Gilligan,
I’m glad you are feeling better, and it’s good to have you back.
January 15th, 2012 at 10:20 pm
I was disappointed we let go of Hue, but can’t say it is a mistake until we see what Reggie does. One concern, I have is we don’t need Green Bay 2.0
It never works to just copy organizations. Look at the Chiefs, trying to be the New England Patriots. Reggie needs to get the best guy, regardless of where they are from. If Winston Moss is the guy so be it, but as shown this weekend power football wins games. Playing tough, physical defense wins games. We need a defense like the Ravens or 49ers, not Green Bay.
It will be really interesting who Reggie gets, I pray for wisdom for him in making a good decision.
January 15th, 2012 at 10:25 pm
For me, now I have to root for Tom Brady and the Patriots to beat the crud out of the Ravens. That’s the one team I am very confident the 49ers cannot beat!
January 15th, 2012 at 10:27 pm
Any of you following that story about the ship in the Mediterrean that sunk and the captain ran off blaming the ocean and some rocks? That captain’s name was Hue Jackson.
January 15th, 2012 at 10:43 pm
Now we get to see how narrow minded McKenzie’s search really is for the HC.
January 15th, 2012 at 10:52 pm
“49ers just beat a team with 0 playoff wins in its history.”
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Huh? Did I miss a joke or something? The Saints won the Super Bowl a few years back.
January 15th, 2012 at 10:53 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 10:27 pm
Any of you following that story about the ship in the Mediterrean that sunk and the captain ran off blaming the ocean and some rocks? That captain’s name was Hue Jackson.
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Hmmm….you trying to say that Hue’s a pirate, or that it’s a good thing that we got rid of him before he sank our ship?
January 15th, 2012 at 11:04 pm
I can’t watch any more POs since I hate all the teams playing.
-Pats: Tuck rule
-Ravens: bad memories ( Pope, Gannon, horse face running for a 60 yard TD…)
-Whiners: enemy of the Nation.
-Giants: I don’t like NY or their teams.
January 15th, 2012 at 11:05 pm
ROFLMAO @ 286!!!!!?
January 15th, 2012 at 11:05 pm
Bresnahan was in charge while Hue was enjoying an Irish coffee and a pedi/mani.
January 15th, 2012 at 11:07 pm
Has Chuchah been fired yet?
January 15th, 2012 at 11:17 pm
We need to get a HC in place as soon as possible. If the Whiners can do it in 1 offseason then we can too. We are a much more talented team than them. It’s all about the players buying in.
January 15th, 2012 at 11:19 pm
Giants 44
niners 20
January 15th, 2012 at 11:20 pm
Pats 55
biltmo 14
January 15th, 2012 at 11:32 pm
I rather have the Ravens win over the Pats. I can never forget the Tuck Rule.
I hate the Pats more than any
January 15th, 2012 at 11:33 pm
I rather have the Ravens win over the Pats. I can never forget the Tuck Rule.
I hate the Pats, and their cheating coach.
January 15th, 2012 at 11:34 pm
Any Other Team*
January 15th, 2012 at 11:37 pm
AIG
you were schilling for Tony Dungy’s coaches earlier, lol.
Jim Caldwell???
Ron Meeks (recently fired after a demotion in Carolina).
Sad.
When you have a top-all-time QB, it’s probably the QB that should get the Super Bowl winning credit.
January 15th, 2012 at 11:38 pm
I’d rather have a coach that cheats, than a “coach” like Davis that benches Marcus Allen to spite him, or goes with puppet head coaches, or cheap defensive coordinators.
Only one of the two is “committed” to excellence.
January 15th, 2012 at 11:48 pm
Winston Moss, because it just sounds right. Has that Harbaugh ring to it.
January 15th, 2012 at 11:49 pm
Today’s fun topic:
Al Davis’s mob connections. Discuss.
January 15th, 2012 at 11:50 pm
Great!! Go be a pats fan and post on their blog.
You are committed to being a monkey!
January 15th, 2012 at 11:51 pm
Confucius say: Raider fan who wanted Hue gone will be Raider fan who want McKenzie gone at first sight of struggle. Confucius say print it.
January 15th, 2012 at 11:53 pm
Don’t you idiots realize we need the 49ers to go to the Super Bowl and lose? So their perfect SB record will be forever ruined? Only Raider fans. Masters of getting in their own way. Good grief. This is as close as the Niners will ever get, and there’s no way they’re beating NE or Baltimore.
January 15th, 2012 at 11:54 pm
The quicker the HC gets resolved the quicker the assistants are locked up. We need to get the right guys before they are already gone. We’ve had enough years of having to take the leftovers – that’s why Bresnahan’s there. Let’s just see if Reggie can pull together a smooth running organization. that would be a nice change of pace. Some of our current assistants are definitely worth keeping and we need to lock them up before they sign-up elsewhere (e.g.Sanjai Li). I’m sure they, the assistants, are all concerned about keeping or having a job so whoever shows up first with a decent offer usually gets the best selection to choose from.
January 15th, 2012 at 11:55 pm
GO NINERS! 5-1 Super Bowl record could be 3 weeks away! No more undefeated SB record! This is next best thing to Raiders winning Super Bowl!
January 15th, 2012 at 11:58 pm
Not many people here, so save your energy for later. We all know seeking this much attention from other people has to be a lot of work.
Who seeks attention from other male posters online?
A lonely gay Monkey!
January 16th, 2012 at 12:00 am
Your mom’s a monkey.
January 16th, 2012 at 12:03 am
New HC has to be Winston Moss. He’ll hire his staff. McKenzie will acquire players. Post-Al Davis era under way. FINALLY!!!
January 16th, 2012 at 12:03 am
Getting angry you little Monkey? No relatives to molest tonight?
January 16th, 2012 at 12:05 am
What did Al ever do to you?
Did he do something to your mother?
January 16th, 2012 at 12:33 am
Raider OOOOOOOO,Whats goin on?I will pull for the AFC,PERIOD.Im not so sure that Coach Jackson needed a swift kick out the door,one more year,then consider it,IMO
January 16th, 2012 at 1:01 am
Hendu,
You forgot to add RAIDERS!!! lol
January 16th, 2012 at 1:06 am
Raider OOOO,cuz I just got up,packing for a trip down South,Riverside,Palm Springs,that said,RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
January 16th, 2012 at 1:09 am
I don’t know bro. I thought Hue was a good OC (not great), but he wasn’t a good HC IMO.
We were 7-4, and then finished 8-8 losing 4 of the last 5 games, and gave the AFC west to Denver.
What really made my dislike him was his attitude after he was fired. Stopped calling Al coach, and started making excuses. I wasn’t able to hire my staff…. Al did what he wanted….etc….
January 16th, 2012 at 1:12 am
Nice dude. Enjoy the trip, and remember: I’m in SD, and you don’t need an invitation.
RAIDERS!!!
January 16th, 2012 at 1:38 am
Thanks,O,see youre point,Hue forgot,You cant find I in TEAM,ive got family in both cities,may end up in SoCal if the Raiders do as well,hope not tho,Oakland is Home,the OAKLAND RAIDERS
January 16th, 2012 at 2:49 am
NFL.com reports Dolphins secondary coach Todd Bowles has “been assured” he’s a legitimate candidate for the Raiders’ head-coaching vacancy, and that the team “won’t automatically hire a Packer.”
Bowles interviewed for the job on Friday, but the wide perception around the league is that new Raiders GM Reggie McKenzie wants to hire an assistant from his former club. Bowles is also a candidate for the defensive coordinator job in Minnesota, and reportedly has “strong support” amongst Dolphins’ players to be the team’s next head coach.
January 16th, 2012 at 3:47 am
Good morning where Im at Raider Nation. I read these post all year long and its the only place where I can have someone that relates to my passion for my raiders all these years. My opinion doesnt mean anything but this is the only place I can share it. I feel ok with Moss becoming head coach and learning as the team gets built the right way. I actually believe the rebuild includes Carson being dealt and the raiders swallowing the bad trade history. Moss as head coach but he has to have one of those offensive coaches and a defensive. And one game doesnt mean anything except you lost. Id take the raiders in that spot long as were growing every year in the right way and goingto playoffs consecutive times. Anyone disagree with that? Being in the playoffs every year and with the right build approach thats what we will become. Go Raiders forever
January 16th, 2012 at 4:40 am
I would like to see a SB match up that I haven’t seen but that would have to involve the whiners so eff that.
out of the two SB match ups we have seen before:
NE v NY
NY v Bal
I would rather see the giants and pats go at it again which made for IMO a top 3 all time best SB game in 07. The Steelers Santonio Holmes last second catch game the year after I thought was just as good.
Any game involving the whiners I am not gonna watch period. The Giants v Ravens SB in 2000 was one of the worst SB games ever thanks to cruddy Kerry Collins, don’t want to see that game again.
January 16th, 2012 at 4:47 am
Que… I can agree with what your saying … Except I think Palmer stays and they work the draft system to acquire a young Qb to be groomed… It was a big price to pay for Palmer and I can’t see them just biting the bullet …the deal was done so id like to see the Raiders make the best of it…
January 16th, 2012 at 4:49 am
Boss … I wouldn’t mind seeing the Rematch…. Giants/ Pats…
January 16th, 2012 at 4:51 am
In anycase , we’re about to findout if McKenzies reputation for knowing and finding talent is the real deal…
January 16th, 2012 at 5:12 am
Very true Fingers and thats what makes this so much fun. His reputation is finding in the lower rounds and free agents so we still could do well with players next year. Im loving it
January 16th, 2012 at 5:27 am
djohnnyg Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 8:35 pm
230.boss01 Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 8:24 pm
That blow to the head call on Osi was egregious….the ref was right there when he made that call, he should be suspended for that blatant bail out
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Exactly. He didn’t even come close to his head and wasn’t “late” either
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I saw Eli get hit late three or four times (twice by Matthews) with no call.
Pack definitely got bailed out a couple of times yesterday.
January 16th, 2012 at 5:40 am
I hope Reggie doesn’t already have his mind made up on a HC without interviewing and keeping an open mind.
There’s no big rush to get someone in this week to start work. Interview a handful of coaches, even outside his circle.
Giving the power to a rookie HC to hire his staff can be risky. I think if he is to hire a rookie HC, than he would need a very good OC and DC.
Take your time Reggie and make that gut call!
January 16th, 2012 at 5:41 am
Media can’t stop talking about how bad the packer defense is yet that group of coaches is the priority for the hc position of the raiders. Reggie wants his guy which I understand but imo this raider hc job is finally attractive and we should going after elite coaches not average coordinators. Why not try to get gruden or cower.
January 16th, 2012 at 5:48 am
I bet Reg already has his QB of the future picked out. And thats why CP is invaluable. CP is everything you want in a mentor. He will lead us for the next couple years while he trains his backup.
I have a feeling Reggie is old school when it comes to stuff like that.
January 16th, 2012 at 5:48 am
Good morning Nation! It’s January 16th, does this mean Bresnahan is officially no longer a Raider?
January 16th, 2012 at 5:52 am
Hiring Capers would be like hiring norv turner
January 16th, 2012 at 5:57 am
I hope so
January 16th, 2012 at 5:59 am
You people wanting a new QB are on dope!
Take this into consideration:
1)Hue Jackson was the HC/QB coach/OC/GM. Carson admitted to not seeing Huey as often as he would have liked. QB’s and the QB coach are usually inseperable during the week. Hue wore too many hats and it probably affected Palmers play.
2)Palmer took chances and it cost him some INT’s but look at who his QB coach/OC/HC was, Hue look at my crank” Jackson!
Get the man a REAL QB coach, a full offseason and training camp and I’m sure you’ll all be saying THANK YOU HUE FOR GETTING US PALMER!!!
January 16th, 2012 at 6:05 am
Been thinking over the weekend (that’s a first)and there’s a scene/line from a film that keeps sticking in my mind.
You’ll all’ve seen Terminator 2? That line by Linda Hamilton about her future.How it’s gone from being set in stone to her not knowing where it’s going to take her.Remember it?
That’s how I feel right now with the Raiders.
A new era.A new freaking era.A GM for the first time – that’s going to pick the first Head Coach without Al Davis.
Just a very spooky feeling.
January 16th, 2012 at 6:05 am
Bresnahan should be gone! Out far far away from oakland and never come back. And take his no talent playcalling pos with him! If we bring in bowles as HC we could bring moss in as an assistant HC/Backers coach since there was a rumor greg might be let go. Bring in Nolan/Capers/even spag as DC. Perry as our DB coach. And clemmens as Qb coach. And we need a WR coach
January 16th, 2012 at 6:24 am
Albert Says:
I have no hate for the 49ers. And I respect the greatness of Brady.
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I agree, but you’d better be careful saying that around here. lol
January 16th, 2012 at 6:28 am
Carl Weathers Says:
Get the man a REAL QB coach, a full offseason and training camp and I’m sure you’ll all be saying THANK YOU HUE FOR GETTING US PALMER!!!
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Hmmm, I don’t understand why a guy who has probably been playing QB for 20 years now still needs a QB coach to teach him how not to throw the ball to the other colored jerseys.
That said, I’m not wanting to ditch Palmer. He does deserve a full offseason to get back into gameday shape.
January 16th, 2012 at 6:28 am
I like palmer but I do see and felt the nfl is a qb that can move out of the pocket. So I just feel Reggie will get that young qb sometime soon. When your building something with a young coach, people want someone young they can groom.
January 16th, 2012 at 6:36 am
A QB and his coach work together on the offensive game plan and various plays , or so I thought. I don’t believe they have a coach to tell them to step into the throw everyday.
January 16th, 2012 at 6:40 am
332.neilb Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 6:05 am
Been thinking over the weekend (that’s a first)and there’s a scene/line from a film that keeps sticking in my mind.
You’ll all’ve seen Terminator 2? That line by Linda Hamilton about her future.How it’s gone from being set in stone to her not knowing where it’s going to take her.Remember it?
That’s how I feel right now with the Raiders.
A new era.A new freaking era.A GM for the first time – that’s going to pick the first Head Coach without Al Davis.
Just a very spooky feeling.
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I hear you. It’s a “different” feeling for me, not so much spooky.
If we had been doing really well the last few yrs. i’d be more “spooked”, but when you’ve had Al Davis around all your life running things a certain way, and you’re used to it; good or bad, and then he’s suddenly gone…it’s gonna be different for sure.
I’m not excited about us looking to the worst ranked defense in the league as our blueprint for upgrading that area. THAT, just doesn’t make me real excited. I’ll have to be more talked into that one.
January 16th, 2012 at 6:42 am
Couldn’t Dump Bresnahan fast enough for me……and if we’re gonna aquire a QB through the draft then having Palmer around for the next 2, 3 years makes sense……. The draft picks Hue paid for Palmer are gone… So we should use that to our advantage and play Palmer and groom a young Qb….I don’t know enough about Pryors Qb skills to even give an honest opinion on him being the Raiders future ….some of you problably do …
January 16th, 2012 at 6:51 am
Is McKenzie going to go “old school tie” approach and just let in the ‘good ol boys’ that he knows?
That packers defense regressed big time – even worse than our Bresnehan run defense. And if that doesn’t give you enough warning then I don’t know what would.
January 16th, 2012 at 7:19 am
The Packers defense was great the last two seasons. The fact that they were worse this year is probably not due to bad coaching.
January 16th, 2012 at 7:24 am
Who knows? Al is gone and the Oakland Raiders have now become just like the other 31 other teams. Reggie has a tough job in front of him. I just hope he can catch fire in a bottle like the Pack did with Rodgers. Without him the Pack would suck just like the pats without Brady
January 16th, 2012 at 7:24 am
I don’t want gb scheme either, why bring that here. Damn I wish al could of survived 2 more years I think we would of progressed and been sb contenders. AFC looks wide open ravens,Colts,chargers,Pitt,pats,old news. We would of got our new D coach, dmac back, a yr experience under hues belt and more chemistry between CP and our wr and we ready to blow up play offs. Now it seems weird cause I have no clue what direction mcckenzie is going in .
January 16th, 2012 at 7:25 am
The Packers defense was great the last two seasons. The fact that they were worse this year is probably not due to bad coaching.
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Holy crap, some actual perspective!!!!
Dom Capers has been the DC of 4, count them 4 with three different organizations, top 5 defenses in his career.
One was last season.
There is no better guy to come in and lay the groudworks for a top-tier creative defense (the man is considered the father of the 3-4 zone blitz) and get this thing moving in the right direction for the next 2-3 years.
I will welcome Mr. Capers with open arms.
January 16th, 2012 at 7:27 am
Deathrow 55, do you really think Al knew what he was doing? He hired Bresnehan! He left us with Boller as our no. 2! He gave out all those horrible contracts!
January 16th, 2012 at 7:27 am
Albert Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 7:19 am
The Packers defense was great the last two seasons. The fact that they were worse this year is probably not due to bad coaching.
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They did lose Nick Collins for the year early on, also the Eagles signed FA Cullen Jenkins in the offseason, that move hurt them real bad I think. They couldn’t get the same pressure on the QB like they did the 2 years prior.
Get pressure on the QB and your defense get a whole lot better. period.
January 16th, 2012 at 7:29 am
Winston Moss’ twitter name is MeanOgreDude
January 16th, 2012 at 7:30 am
Albert Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 7:29 am
Winston Moss’ twitter name is MeanOgreDude
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I don’t follow twitter, I’m too old
Feel free to post updates though !
January 16th, 2012 at 7:31 am
http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2012/1/15/2709279/bowles-assured-raiders-wont-automatically-hire-a-packer
Short Read
January 16th, 2012 at 7:32 am
Raiderbuck, twitter is great for following football news. You can usually get news much quicker than Steve or Jerry will give you on this blog.
January 16th, 2012 at 7:33 am
I would be happy with Moss as the HC, but I think we would have some on the job training stuff with him as a HC, that will stunt this teams development in 2012.
This team needs some leadership, some better chess players on our sidelines and maybe a player or two here and there.
The division should be ours in 2012, but John Fox is a good HC, and putting in ANOTHER rookie HC might make it tougher to outsmart those guys.
January 16th, 2012 at 7:35 am
Al also drafted all our young talent past 3 years, he was turning it around. He was one puppet (decent d coordinator) away. He would of fired him mid season trust me on that.
January 16th, 2012 at 7:36 am
HC- Capers
DC- Nolan
OC- Saunders
January 16th, 2012 at 7:39 am
Fox is a real good HC but keeping Tebow as starting QB will stunt that team.
Im pretty sure I heard that Romeo Crennel is staying in KC to be the HC and run the D. They lost a lot of players toinjury early on, I think they will be our biggest competition next year.
January 16th, 2012 at 7:39 am
If they do hire a ne rookie HC – the DC and the OC need to be very experienced to help the on the job training.
I seriously do not like Capers – simply based on his HC record. Don’t need another retread that couldn’t get a HC job anywhere else.
January 16th, 2012 at 7:41 am
If Nolan stays in Miami, bring in Moss, he could be the heir to the throne, so to speak.
HC- Capers
DC- Nolan or Moss
OC- Saunders
January 16th, 2012 at 7:46 am
Its a copy cat league there is now a blue print on how to shred a packers defensive scheme and you want it here . I’ll pass.
January 16th, 2012 at 7:47 am
Capers was the HC of two expansion teams. Don’t think his experience starting a franchise from the ground-up isn’t a factor in McKenzie potentially hiring him.
His 1st 3 years in Carolina they went 27-23 and went to a NFC championship game.
That’s all I want from Dom, 3 years, and he has proven he can take on a new franchise and win.
I told you weeks ago, while some were stil trying to sell Hue Jackson staying, that Hue will be fired and Capers will be the new HC and I am sticking with it.
Moss and Bowles wouldn’t upset me, but I think that is more of a 1 step back for 2 steps forward thing, that I think is unnecessary.
January 16th, 2012 at 7:48 am
DEATHROW 55 Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 7:46 am
Its a copy cat league there is now a blue print on how to shred a packers defensive scheme and you want it here
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You realize there’s a “blueprint” for defeating EVERY NFL defense, right?
January 16th, 2012 at 7:55 am
There was a good article in SI about how both the Packers and Patriots pass D numbers were ridiculously skewed.
They each gave up like 25% of their total yardage when having a lead of 17 points or more.
January 16th, 2012 at 7:56 am
356.Carl Weathers Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 7:41 am
If Nolan stays in Miami, bring in Moss, he could be the heir to the throne, so to speak.
HC- Capers
DC- Nolan or Moss
OC- Saunders
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Winston Moss can interview for H.C. unless the Packers give permission for a sideways move.
January 16th, 2012 at 7:58 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 7:55 am
There was a good article in SI about how both the Packers and Patriots pass D numbers were ridiculously skewed.
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Yep.
Opponents that have to play from behind are going to get their passing yards.
January 16th, 2012 at 8:04 am
Look at the Green Bay game against the Chargers as an example.
They gave up a zillion yards, but got three turnovers, two pick 6’s, and the Chargers got a passing TD with 3 minutes to go, got the onside kick, and scored another TD……….but they still lost by 7.
Weird year, but Capers can coach a defense, and a resume is built off more than one year.
January 16th, 2012 at 8:06 am
If we can get a balance d stop the run and the pass then don’t matter who d c is.
January 16th, 2012 at 8:07 am
DEATHROW 55 Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 8:06 am
If we can get a balance d stop the run and the pass then don’t matter who d c is.
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And who exactly do you think creates a balanced D that can stop the run and pass? Where do you think that comes from?
January 16th, 2012 at 8:10 am
2009, Packers were #2 ranked total defense with the #1 ranked rush defense.
That was Capers first year there.
The man gets immediate results.
January 16th, 2012 at 8:13 am
Not gb dumb fk
January 16th, 2012 at 8:17 am
Happy MLK day!
Being a day of equality and fairness.
Does Reggie have to interview a white head coaching candidate to satisfy the Rodney King rule?
January 16th, 2012 at 8:18 am
Happy “I work for the government and I get to take a three day weekend day”!
January 16th, 2012 at 8:23 am
DEATHROW 55 Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 8:13 am
Not gb dumb fk
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I’ll answer the question for you, since you don’t seem to know what you’re talking about.
Scheme and coaching create a balanced defense, because you can’t just go out and sign a superstar for every position group. And even if you could? It’s the defensive coordinator who is in charge of making sure that each of those players is in a position that best utilizes their skills. Otherwise, look no further than the 2011 Eagles defense.
Green Bay’s defense did not play their best football in 2011, for sure. But to cite the passing numbers as evidence is a faulty argument. As pointed out above, when opposing teams have to play from behind, they’re going to get passing yards in chunks because they’re trying to make plays downfield and score as quickly as possible.
Even then, the Packers finished the season 15-1. They lost their best defensive lineman in free agency and their Pro Bowl FS to injury, and their defense still caused among the most turnovers in the league. Their defensive coordinator has assembled a roster of players who do what he asks of them, and then takes those players (many of whom are lower-tier talents like Jarrett Bush, Charlie Peprah, Erik Walden, Morgan Burnett, AJ Hawk, Howard Green, Tramon Williams – UDFA, cut by the Texans) and puts them in position to make plays.
January 16th, 2012 at 8:25 am
I’m not sold on Capers at HC – in fact I think the Raiders can do better – but they can certainly do a whole lot worse.
Personally, I like Moss or Bowles with an experienced DC like Nolan on staff.
January 16th, 2012 at 8:26 am
To all those talking about how smart Reggie is and he won’t just hire his buddies. You guys are like battered wives. Except you have battered fan syndrome. You think after every season of getting your hopes and dreams of a Super Bowl smashed one signing is going to make us world champions.
Reggie maybe the greatest thing ever for this team or Mark Davis and Reggie might make Al Davis look like a genius.
I’m not sold till they take the field.
So ladies…put on your sun glasses and cover up that black eye. Tomorrow is a new day.
January 16th, 2012 at 8:27 am
I suggested Capers about the same day as Reggie’s presser as DC not head coach before his name was mentioned here.
He would be solid so would Nolan.
I do not want any GB assistant as a HC. Having said that I cant think of 1 guy I want as a HC right now..Good luck Reg!
January 16th, 2012 at 8:28 am
Albert, it’s not just govt workers that have the day off.
Dont be stupid you moron…
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Albert Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 8:18 am
Happy “I work for the government and I get to take a three day weekend day”!
January 16th, 2012 at 8:29 am
After last night’s beat down. At least if Mongo does go with all the GB defensive guys it will seem like a seamless transition on the field. Opposing teams running up and down scoring at will.
January 16th, 2012 at 8:30 am
DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 8:26 am
To all those talking about how smart Reggie is and he won’t just hire his buddies. You guys are like battered wives. Except you have battered fan syndrome. You think after every season of getting your hopes and dreams of a Super Bowl smashed one signing is going to make us world champions.
Reggie maybe the greatest thing ever for this team or Mark Davis and Reggie might make Al Davis look like a genius.
I’m not sold till they take the field.
So ladies…put on your sun glasses and cover up that black eye. Tomorrow is a new day.
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The difference between Al Davis and Reggie McKenzie? Reggie McKenzie can be fired if he fails to turn the Raiders into a winner. Couldn’t say that about Al.
I think it’s funny how many Raiders fans are straight-up afraid of a future without Al Davis running the show.
January 16th, 2012 at 8:34 am
376.
Not afraid. Just can’t believe all the talk about how smart Reggie is and talking about trading DMAC and Carson Ect.
Reggie might be a real smart guy or he may be good because of those he had above him. I’m just not convinced after listening to his presser.
January 16th, 2012 at 8:36 am
You seem to know a lot about gb, to be honest I never watched them they never interested me what so ever, they are good but doesn’t mean I have a hard on for their staff. I don’t go off iffs and that’s when it ain’t it what it is. GB d has better players than us don’t forget to add that in your evaluation Young America .
January 16th, 2012 at 8:38 am
Just can’t believe all the talk about how smart Reggie is
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No reason you should. But look at the Packers’ drafts during McKenzie’s tenure. Listen to guys like Andrew Brandt, Ron Wolf, Dave Razzano, and other scouts and executives around the league who speak highly of him. Reggie gives the Raiders a chance, and that’s more than they’ve had in the last two decades.
If you can find a more qualified GM candidate who was available to the Raiders (read: not DeCosta, not Cowher), then I’d like to hear it.
Trading DMac, on the other hand, needs to happen if the Raiders want draft picks and don’t want a $5 million part-time player who refuses to play when his team needs him.
January 16th, 2012 at 8:40 am
GB d has better players than us don’t forget to add that in your evaluation Young America .
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That’s because those players were drafted by an organization whose scouts and executives actually know what they’re looking for. Unlike in Oakland, where one man was in charge of the draft decisions, and all he looked for were physical attributes.
The Raiders absolutely need to, and most likely will make dramatic changes to the defensive roster.
January 16th, 2012 at 8:45 am
379.
That’s why I’m in wait and see mode on Mongo. I doubt he made all those draft picks by himself.
Dmac may continue to have problems. Or he may rush for 2000 yards next season. It would not be smart to trade him for anyone less than a proven player already in the league.
January 16th, 2012 at 8:49 am
If DMac A.) ever played a full season in his career and B.) wasn’t shut out by defenses like the Patriots, Steelers, Colts, Texans, Ravens, among others, THEN I would buy the 2000-yard rushing argument. But he hasn’t, and he was, so I don’t.
Even then, I don’t recall a single Superbowl winner in the last decade having an “elite” running back. Running games can be neutralized by good defenses and good offenses. Running backs don’t help you win big games against elite teams.
January 16th, 2012 at 8:51 am
Bowles and Nolan or Capers and Moss ….
Hmmmmm …..
How long would Nolan be here before he left for a HC gig somewhere?
Moss has zero experience as a DC. If he were not a former Raiders, would we even be talking about him?
I say leave Moss in GB to take over for Capers, and bring Trgovic in with Capers to be our DC.
January 16th, 2012 at 8:53 am
Tampa wants to talk to Moss too.
January 16th, 2012 at 8:55 am
I’ll say this much – a running back who refuses to take a pain shot, even if it means helping his team when the playoffs are on the line, will NEVER be a 2000-yard rusher in this league.
January 16th, 2012 at 8:55 am
DMAC is too much of a weapon to just trade away, even if he’s a ‘part timer.’
Guy got hurt. When healthy, he may be the best back in the league.
Just redo his deal.
January 16th, 2012 at 8:57 am
The only way you trade DMac is if you can get a Carson Palmer deal.
January 16th, 2012 at 8:58 am
YoungAmerican Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 8:55 am
I’ll say this much – a running back who refuses to take a pain shot, even if it means helping his team when the playoffs are on the line, will NEVER be a 2000-yard rusher in this league.
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I saw DMAC on the shot.
Wasn’t impressed. Was slippin and sliding everywhere. Get healthy — reload.
RE: Coaching situation….
Bowles and Nolan with Saunders retained as OC.
Boom.
January 16th, 2012 at 8:58 am
How long would Nolan be here before he left for a HC gig somewhere?
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It would depend entirely on how well he did.
He did a very solid job in Miami and I haven’t heard his name mentioned for any HC gigs this year, for what it’s worth.
I think teams realize he’s one of those guys who isn’t made for the HC role.
January 16th, 2012 at 8:58 am
Albert Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 8:57 am
The only way you trade DMac is if you can get a Carson Palmer deal.
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Exactly. Herschel Walker-like
January 16th, 2012 at 8:59 am
BREAKING NEWS:
AdamSchefter Adam Schefter
Raiders received permission today to interview both Broncos coordinators, DC Dennis Allen and OC Mike McCoy, for their HC vacancy.
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January 16th, 2012 at 9:01 am
385.
You can’t vilify a guy who picks is body over football. If he doesn’t use pain killers that his choice.
January 16th, 2012 at 9:02 am
When healthy
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And when is that?
Even when he IS healthy, it’s not like he automatically take over every game he’s in. He can be stopped like any other running back in this league.
What has Peterson done for the Vikings? What has MJD done for the Jags? Did the Chargers ever win one with LT?
Restructure his deal for under $1 million, or take what you can get for him. He’s not a player who will help the Raiders take the next step.
January 16th, 2012 at 9:03 am
Raiders received permission today to interview both Broncos coordinators, DC Dennis Allen and OC Mike McCoy, for their HC vacancy.
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Why?
Maybe their DC.
But the OC?
Al Davis style brain-pick session maybe?
January 16th, 2012 at 9:03 am
DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 9:01 am
385.
You can’t vilify a guy who picks is body over football. If he doesn’t use pain killers that his choice.
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It’s absolutely his choice. But if he doesn’t help the Raiders, then it’s an easy business decision.
January 16th, 2012 at 9:03 am
389.YoungAmerican Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 8:58 am
How long would Nolan be here before he left for a HC gig somewhere?
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It would depend entirely on how well he did.
He did a very solid job in Miami and I haven’t heard his name mentioned for any HC gigs this year, for what it’s worth.
I think teams realize he’s one of those guys who isn’t made for the HC role.
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I echo that. His last stint as HC of the Niners didn’t go so well…
January 16th, 2012 at 9:04 am
The Dolphins interviewed McCoy. McCoy has worked with Nolan.
January 16th, 2012 at 9:04 am
For $5 million, the idea is that you sacrifice your body for football.
I wonder what Ray Lewis and Ed Reed would think of a guy who, for $5 million a year, won’t sacrifice their body for football.
January 16th, 2012 at 9:04 am
Capers is done. He is a proven loser. I’ll take my chances with a rookie coach like W Moss.
-Panthers HC: 7-9, 7-9, and 4-12.
-Texans HC: 4-12, 5-11, 7-9, and 2-14.
Record: 48-80!!!!!
The only teams tha hired were expansion teams!!!!
There is a reason for that: he is not a good HC, and you people want to hire him.
The only 2 teams to offer Capers a job were 2 expansion teams.
Who wants to be the HC of an expansion team? Not a great HC!
January 16th, 2012 at 9:04 am
Don’t see either bronco assistants getting hc job.
Said it for weeks we need Mike Nolan, period the end.
January 16th, 2012 at 9:04 am
Now that we have weapons like DHB, Moore, Ford, and Murphy and a QB like Palmer to throw to him, OF COURSE McFadden can be traded.
Was reading somewhere that a team would CERTAINLY give up a #1 pick for McFadden.
McFadden is better than Chris Johnson and you see what Tenn gave him moeny wise? To be able to get McFadden for 5 million a year?
I’d trade Seymour too, and pick up Jenkins from Phi IF we bring in Capers and go with the 3-4.
Wouldn’t be surprised to see any of that happen.
January 16th, 2012 at 9:05 am
Albert Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 8:59 am
BREAKING NEWS:
AdamSchefter Adam Schefter
Raiders received permission today to interview both Broncos coordinators, DC Dennis Allen and OC Mike McCoy, for their HC vacancy.
3 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
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Interesting. You can bet McCoy would have some packages for Pryor…
January 16th, 2012 at 9:05 am
Perhaps most impressive about McCoy, who’s just 39, is what he’s done with limited resources. The Broncos traded away Jay Cutler before the 2009 season and under McCoy, Kyle Orton still threw for more than 3,500 yards in two consecutive seasons. After the Broncos traded Brandon Marshall following the 2009 season, Brandon Lloyd became a Pro Bowler.
And, of course, in 2011, McCoy re-engineered the offense in the middle of the season to fit Tebow’s skills and helped Denver win a division title.
January 16th, 2012 at 9:06 am
And when is that?
Even when he IS healthy, it’s not like he automatically take over every game he’s in. He can be stopped like any other running back in this league.
What has Peterson done for the Vikings? What has MJD done for the Jags? Did the Chargers ever win one with LT?
Restructure his deal for under $1 million, or take what you can get for him. He’s not a player who will help the Raiders take the next step.
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He played, what 14 games last year? That’s about average for an NFL RB.
He got an injury to his foot and would have been ready for playoffs, had we gone.
I know you put a great deal of time into your Blog GM duties, but I don’t agree here.
Restructure however you can and have him healthy for the start of the season.
Get another solid RB to spell him if Bush walks.
January 16th, 2012 at 9:06 am
The Only 2 trams that would hire Capers as a HC are expansion teams.
That should tell you all you need to know about Capers.
January 16th, 2012 at 9:07 am
And when is that?
Even when he IS healthy, it’s not like he automatically take over every game he’s in. He can be stopped like any other running back in this league.
What has Peterson done for the Vikings? What has MJD done for the Jags? Did the Chargers ever win one with LT?
Restructure his deal for under $1 million, or take what you can get for him. He’s not a player who will help the Raiders take the next step.
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Should we just trade away all our RB’s and just add WR’s? Go empty back field on every play? Sorry but Peterson and LT both did plenty for there teams. It was the team as a whole that didnt get it done.
January 16th, 2012 at 9:09 am
Correction:
Panthers HC: 7-9, 12-4, 7-9, and 4-12.
January 16th, 2012 at 9:11 am
Carr wasn’t the reason he didn’t win with the Texans. It was due to lack of talent on the OL. Carr was getting killed!
January 16th, 2012 at 9:12 am
O,
Has anyone even given Moss a DC job?
You really don’t think our next HC should at least have been a coordinator?
January 16th, 2012 at 9:12 am
I’d trade Seymour if the Raiders stay 4-3, but keep him if the Raiders go 3-4 until they’re absolutely sure Bryant and Houston can handle starting roles as 3-4 DEs.
But if they keep him, they sure as hell can’t afford to pay him $15 million next season.
January 16th, 2012 at 9:13 am
Maybe Reggie changed his mind after watching the Packer defense fall apart yesterday.
January 16th, 2012 at 9:14 am
J Hill, wasn’t Madden a linebackers coach when he was given the head coach job?
January 16th, 2012 at 9:14 am
Interesting. You can bet McCoy would have some packages for Pryor…
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I’m completely off the Pryor as a QB for us kool aid.
We need a backup QB in the worst way.
Resign Glo!
January 16th, 2012 at 9:14 am
J,
Was Madden a DC before we hired him, or was he a LBs coach like Moss?!
Moss is alsI second in command for GB. He is the assistant HC.
January 16th, 2012 at 9:15 am
Albert beat me to it.
January 16th, 2012 at 9:16 am
Should we just trade away all our RB’s and just add WR’s? Go empty back field on every play? Sorry but Peterson and LT both did plenty for there teams. It was the team as a whole that didnt get it done.
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I’d take 3 or 4 lunchpail-type RBs who can get tough yards and play most games for 10% of what McFadden makes over having a $5 million part-time player who occasionally takes over games against non-elite teams.
Peterson and LT did plenty for their teams? Does “plenty” show up in a trophy case somewhere?
January 16th, 2012 at 9:16 am
When looking at draft picks and trading players, it is all about percieved “value” (just like gambling and playing poker).
I wouldn’t trade McFadden for anything, but I would place his value as probably a 2nd rounder. If it were a late 2nd rounder, than maybe a 2nd and 5th.
So to trade McFadden, I would something better than that.
I mean, every player in the league should be tradable for above value. What if the Bears offered Jay Cutler, and 5 future 1st rounders for Tom Brady? I would do it.
January 16th, 2012 at 9:17 am
We need a backup QB in the worst way.
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I’d love JC to be back, but realistically…
Josh Johnson
Chad Henne
Shaun Hill
January 16th, 2012 at 9:17 am
J Hill Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 9:14 am
Interesting. You can bet McCoy would have some packages for Pryor…
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I’m completely off the Pryor as a QB for us kool aid.
We need a backup QB in the worst way.
Resign Glo!
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He could no doubt be at least as effective as Tebow of Nazareth in some packages. The key is to not use him all the time. With Palmer, we wouldn’t have to.
January 16th, 2012 at 9:18 am
Some of you Raiders fans seem like masochists. No offense but I see why fans of other teams call us dumb. You are the only people who would want us to hire a HC who has failed everywhere else as a HC and hope he turns it around here. What do you think the Coboys think about that after hiring Wade Phillips who failed at his other head coaching jobs. How about the Chargers with Norv even though they kept him. There is a reason why some of these guys aren’t HC and it’s because they aren’t cut out for it. No on Nolan, no on Capers, and no on any other former head coach who did horribly at his last job as a head coach. And I especially don’t understand your fascination with Capers who had one of the worst defenses in league this year and couldn’t stop a guy trying to run out the clock or a hail Mary play at the end of the half considering how bad our defense is
January 16th, 2012 at 9:18 am
Hey I’m post 420 what a coincidence
January 16th, 2012 at 9:18 am
J,
Some people skip a few steps moving up the ladder.
I went from salesman to manager. I didn’t have to become an assistant manager 1st.
January 16th, 2012 at 9:19 am
Chad Henne would make a nice back up. He may not be a bad starter either.
January 16th, 2012 at 9:20 am
I like TP, but I don’t mind adding C Henne. He is a good backup IMO.
January 16th, 2012 at 9:20 am
Peterson and LT did plenty for their teams? Does “plenty” show up in a trophy case somewhere?
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If anything should be learned from this years playoffs is that d and a run game still can win games in todays NFL. Bradshaw/Jacobs Gore and Ray Rice will still have alot to say about who gets the trophy
January 16th, 2012 at 9:22 am
LOL at 420.
You tell’em dude!
January 16th, 2012 at 9:22 am
18year old,
So the fact the Packers had the best defense in football when you combine 2009 and 2010, means less than what happened the year after they won the Super Bowl?
January 16th, 2012 at 9:23 am
Listened to “Green and Gold Monday” on the Packer radio network this morn. and obviously everybody is miserable, but one BIG topic they stayed on was Dom Capers. The host(s) were really questioning him in particular. They said the ’scheme’ must have been wrong cuz they have good players on D, with AJ Hawk, Clay Matthews and Woodson. Even mentioned how Shields and Tramon Williams digressed this year from last.
Anyway, they were really ripping on Capers.
January 16th, 2012 at 9:23 am
trade seymour, who would pick up his contract?
January 16th, 2012 at 9:23 am
If anything should be learned from this years playoffs is that d and a run game still can win games in todays NFL. Bradshaw/Jacobs Gore and Ray Rice will still have alot to say about who gets the trophy
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Ray Rice = 2nd round pick
Bradshaw = 7th round pick
Jacobs = 4th round pick
These guys aren’t exactly hard to find.
Also, for reference:
@NFLMase Dan Masonson
Six 300-yard passing gms & 12 100-yard receiving gms MOST-EVER thru Div Rd in current playoff format (since ‘90)
January 16th, 2012 at 9:24 am
Would be interesting if we bring in any offensive people (Philbin/Clements) from Green Bay.
They are a strict ZBS blocking team.
January 16th, 2012 at 9:24 am
Capers = 48-80!!!!!
You are what your record says you are!!!
He is a loser!!!!!!
January 16th, 2012 at 9:25 am
also Giants Dline strength is they can all rush the passer you don’t want to give up that asset, need the right coach to make it work and a big run stuffer
January 16th, 2012 at 9:25 am
3 of the 4 remaining QB’s were in the top 8 in QB rating.
Including #2 and #3.
Still a QB league.
January 16th, 2012 at 9:26 am
Dom Capers is another demonstration of the Peter Principle: a good (most of the time) coordinator who’s just not a head guy.
January 16th, 2012 at 9:26 am
Ray Rice = 2nd round pick
Bradshaw = 7th round pick
Jacobs = 4th round pick
These guys aren’t exactly hard to find.
Also, for reference:
@NFLMase Dan Masonson
Six 300-yard passing gms & 12 100-yard receiving gms MOST-EVER thru Div Rd in current playoff format (since ‘90)
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they are hard to find who wouldn’t want those guys on their roster and why would you need to look for them when they’re already on your roster?
January 16th, 2012 at 9:26 am
All you blog GMs must not understand how the NFL works you don’t trade all your talented players for draft picks that might not work out. Plus of your trying to trade a player other teams are going to know there’s a reason he is being traded so you won’t get equal or greater value unless you are trading with the Raiders and we can’t trade with ourselves so that’s not going to happen. Also teams don’t give up picks for a player with a huge salary it doesn’t make any sense. And all you cut everybody they get paid too much people that can’t happen either because if you cut these players some of their salary will still be on the cap and that would leave less room to sign other players so that won’t work either
January 16th, 2012 at 9:27 am
Forgot to say, Gore = 3rd round pick.
49ers didn’t look like a playoff team until Alex Smith started playing football for real.
Giants’ running game has a lot to do with having Eli, Cruz and Nicks.
With the Ravens? Having an elite defense that doesn’t allow games to become shootouts keeps them in position to run the ball more. Even still, Rice didn’t have a great game yesterday. Flacco had to make a couple plays with his arm to keep the Ravens in it. They almost lost because an elite Texans defense didn’t let their running game take over.
January 16th, 2012 at 9:27 am
MOSS as HC= 0-0
Capers as HC= 48-80
Is it that hard?!
January 16th, 2012 at 9:27 am
J Hill, wasn’t Madden a linebackers coach when he was given the head coach job?
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Well if you have to go back that far to get an example, then I think I really don’t want Moss now.
January 16th, 2012 at 9:27 am
Also teams don’t give up picks for a player with a huge salary it doesn’t make any sense.
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Agreed.
That’s why we wouldn’t get squat for a lot of our players, because they are way overpaid.
January 16th, 2012 at 9:28 am
J Hill Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 9:27 am
J Hill, wasn’t Madden a linebackers coach when he was given the head coach job?
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Well if you have to go back that far to get an example, then I think I really don’t want Moss now.
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Moss is also the Assistant Head Coach, which means he already has knowledge and experience in the administration part of the job. He’d be a good choice.
January 16th, 2012 at 9:29 am
If McKenzie plans on blowing things up, and starting with a completely new defensive system, Dom Capers experience (and success in Carolina) doing so will help his job interview.
January 16th, 2012 at 9:30 am
427 yes what happened this year means more than what happened in past years because that means either his coaching got worse or teams started to figure him out that’s what happens in the NFL. Thats like saying “you mean to tell me that what happened with the Dolphins wildcat in ‘08 doesn’t matter because it didn’t work the next year” yes that’s exactly what I’m saying.
January 16th, 2012 at 9:31 am
Veldheer>buluga, Cobba. Green, j.Ford>Starks, wiz2>Sherrod, chekwa>d.house, Houston>Neal, barksdale>newhouse. Now what….
January 16th, 2012 at 9:31 am
RD,
I posted that too, but it doesn’t fit into J’s argument, so he ignored it. He does that a lot, but we still like him.
January 16th, 2012 at 9:31 am
Also teams don’t give up picks for a player with a huge salary it doesn’t make any sense.
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Miami = Reggie Bush
Redskins = Donnovan McNabb
Al’s Raiders = Richard Seymour
It’s not unprecedented. Have to find a sucker team, and there are absolutely a few of them out there.
Moreover, I’d rather take my chances with $6 million off the salary cap (which the Raiders are already over for 2012) and a 2nd round pick (deep RB class, Chris Polk and David Wilson are options, and the Raiders will also need to find pieces on D, especially if they switch to a 3-4) and another mid/late-rounder or two than waiting around for a player who costs a lot, doesn’t help the team win games, and is for the most part easily replaceable.
Again, I’d much rather have 3-4 lunchpail RBs who cost 10% of what DMac does.
January 16th, 2012 at 9:31 am
I’d laugh at the “uproar” on here if we hired Capers, traded away some of the favorite players on here (Ford, Seymour, McFadden), kept Palmer and Rolando, and went to a ZBS blocking system, and than went to the playoffs.
January 16th, 2012 at 9:31 am
All those that were down with the Packers staff infiltrating the Raiders infrastructure are having second thoughts now. How about a clear choice on the OC to replace Hue Jacksons play calling? Going to be a tough call.
January 16th, 2012 at 9:32 am
18,
To compare Dom Capers, who has had a ton of success as a DC for almost 20 years, to the wildcat is quite the leap.
Not buying it.
January 16th, 2012 at 9:34 am
Some people skip a few steps moving up the ladder.
I went from salesman to manager. I didn’t have to become an assistant manager 1st.
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Kiffin, Cable, and Jackson skipped a few steps and that didn’t work out so well for us.
January 16th, 2012 at 9:35 am
YoungAmerican Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 8:55 am
I’ll say this much – a running back who refuses to take a pain shot, even if it means helping his team when the playoffs are on the line, will NEVER be a 2000-yard rusher in this league.
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Maybe that running back just didn’t want to play for Hue Jackson.
January 16th, 2012 at 9:35 am
U can look at the GB media and fans ripping on Capers as either a disgruntled fan base looking for a fall guy after a devastating end to what they thought was a done deal SB repeat, OR..objective analysis of a DC who failed in game planning and cost one of the best offenses in regular season history their shot at another SB.
No doubt a Capers hire here would certainly raise some eyebrows either way.
January 16th, 2012 at 9:36 am
they are hard to find who wouldn’t want those guys on their roster and why would you need to look for them when they’re already on your roster?
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Well, Bush is a free agent and DMac costs a lot and hasn’t produced like Bradshaw/Jacobs, Gore, or Rice… so guys like that are not on the Raiders’ roster.
Look around the league, particularly at elite teams. They’re getting it done by rotating a group of running backs who may not be game-breakers but are good enough to keep the offense moving.
RB is the easiest position in the league to find.
January 16th, 2012 at 9:36 am
J Hill Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 9:34 am
Some people skip a few steps moving up the ladder.
I went from salesman to manager. I didn’t have to become an assistant manager 1st.
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Kiffin, Cable, and Jackson skipped a few steps and that didn’t work out so well for us.
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This is why, between McCoy and Allen, I’d prefer McCoy. While they’re both 39, Allen has had more of a meteoric rise, while McCoy’s been a fast but steady progression through first the Panthers organization, then the Broncos. He could be a good one.
January 16th, 2012 at 9:37 am
Maybe that running back just didn’t want to play for Hue Jackson.
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Doubt it. Jackson was the one who asked DMac which plays he wanted to run, and made him look like a real NFL running back in 2010.
January 16th, 2012 at 9:38 am
And I especially don’t understand your fascination with Capers
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Settle down young man.
There have been 3 names floated around to have interviews and Capers is one of them. Send your complaints to the new GM if you have an issue with him being on the short leash.
Of the 3 names, Moss is the least qualified, and it’s not even an argument.
As soon as Belechick’s name gets floated around a a possible candidate, we’ll move on from Capers as the most qualified.
January 16th, 2012 at 9:39 am
Fine I agree that he has had success as a DC but he hasnt had success as a HC so I don’t want unless it’s as a DC and even thats a stretch plus I’m sure he wouldn’t want to make a lateral move to an inferior team. But I still say his defense this year would be the first thing that comes to my head if we hire him then it would be his record as a HC both pretty bad in their own right
January 16th, 2012 at 9:41 am
Not saying I’d want Dom, but you also have to consider the talent he would be coming into here would be a lot better than what he had in previous two stops, correct?
January 16th, 2012 at 9:42 am
Jhill I’m just saying I would want Capers the least out of the three names floated around I would rather have the guy with no experience than the guy who is a known failure
January 16th, 2012 at 9:43 am
I have no Problem with McKenzie blowing up our defense as we know it….. I thought it was already blown up…
January 16th, 2012 at 9:44 am
Moss is also the Assistant Head Coach, which means he already has knowledge and experience in the administration part of the job. He’d be a good choice.
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Doesn’t discount the fact that he has never beed a coordinator on any level, and he has zero HC experience.
I’ll ask it again. If he wasn’t a former Raider would we even be having this conversation?
January 16th, 2012 at 9:44 am
Let’s see:
Do I want the DC for GB who had a losing record as a HC (48-80), or do I want the assistant HC ( young guy) for GB who never had a chance to be a HC?
I would rather have a proven HC with a winning record, but since that’s not an option, then I rather have an unproven young but talented Coach.
January 16th, 2012 at 9:45 am
Raider O Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 9:44 am
Let’s see:
Do I want the DC for GB who had a losing record as a HC (48-80), or do I want the assistant HC ( young guy) for GB who never had a chance to be a HC?
I would rather have a proven HC with a winning record, but since that’s not an option, then I rather have an unproven young but talented Coach.
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Moot point as soon as we hire Bowles.
January 16th, 2012 at 9:46 am
I also understand that no matter who McKenzie picks as our headcoach that theirs gonna be a lot of people in here that don’t like it.. Just the way it is….at some point we have to let him be a GM… And that’s not always popular..
January 16th, 2012 at 9:47 am
I posted that too, but it doesn’t fit into J’s argument, so he ignored it
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Cmon, O, really????
Am I not paying enough attention to you?
January 16th, 2012 at 9:48 am
From PFT:
Raiders will interview both Broncos coordinators
Posted by Michael David Smith on January 16, 2012, 12:20 PM EST
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The Oakland Raiders want to talk to both of the coordinators on the team that won their division.
The Raiders have received permission to interview Broncos defensive coordinator Dennis Allen and offensive coordinator Mike McCoy for their head coaching vacancy, ESPN’s Adam Schefter is reporting.
It’s an interesting strategy from Raiders owner Mark Davis and G.M. Reggie McKenzie. It makes sense from a competitive standpoint to consider bringing in coaches from the team ahead of them in the standings, but it may also be a tactic designed at gathering intelligence on a division rival.
If that’s what it is, it sounds like a strategy that Al Davis would love.
That’s not to say Allen and McCoy aren’t both worthy candidates for head-coaching opportunities. Allen coordinated a stellar defense that didn’t get enough credit during the regular season, while Tim Tebow was getting praised for winning games by scores including 18-15, 17-10, 17-13, 16-13 and 13-10. And McCoy is one of the hottest candidates in the league, having also drawn interest from the Jaguars and Dolphins. Both Allen and McCoy are 39-year-olds with bright futures in the coaching business.
McKenzie said shortly after he fired former coach Hue Jackson that he wants to bring in his own guy, and that has led to speculation that it would be someone from the Packers, likely defensive coordinator Dom Capers or assistant head coach/inside linebackers coach Winston Moss. But the Raiders are casting a wider net, also interviewing Todd Bowles, who finished the season as the Dolphins’ interim head coach, and now considering two Broncos coordinators as well.
January 16th, 2012 at 9:48 am
Why is he talented?
You dont move that fast up the ladder for lack of talent.
From LBs coach to Assistant HC in 1 year!!
January 16th, 2012 at 9:49 am
Maybe neither of you are a doctor and shouldn’t be second guessing stuff like this. Its very possible a shot wouldn’t have helped. Shots are not a save-all remedy.
#derelicts
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Seymour Bush Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 9:35 am
YoungAmerican Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 8:55 am
I’ll say this much – a running back who refuses to take a pain shot, even if it means helping his team when the playoffs are on the line, will NEVER be a 2000-yard rusher in this league.
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Maybe that running back just didn’t want to play for Hue Jackson.
January 16th, 2012 at 9:50 am
Look around the league, particularly at elite teams. They’re getting it done by rotating a group of running backs who may not be game-breakers but are good enough to keep the offense moving.
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without arian foster the texans aren’t in the playoffs. without ray rice the ravens aren’t in the playoffs. without bradshaw/jacobs the giants aren’t in the playoffs. without gore the 9ers aren’t in the playoffs. just because they weren’t drafted high they are elite talents and aren’t found easily. teams miss on rb’s all the time
January 16th, 2012 at 9:52 am
McCoy is worth looking at….. Just dust the Donk stench off.. Good as new…..
January 16th, 2012 at 9:52 am
MistaBrown Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 9:49 am
Maybe neither of you are a doctor and shouldn’t be second guessing stuff like this. Its very possible a shot wouldn’t have helped. Shots are not a save-all remedy.
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Well in that case, we’re talking about a severe foot injury to a guy with a history of them in his NFL career.
January 16th, 2012 at 9:52 am
I would rather have the guy with no experience than the guy who is a known failure
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NFC Championship game with an expansion roster is a failure?
The guy had EXPANSION rosters and your knocking him for having a losing record????
We’re looking at this from 2 different angles. I see the defense as the glaring hole on this team. We lost our DC last year and we are looking at a whole lot of change on that side of the ball.
I don’t care about the titles. Of the names floated around, I’m more interested in having Capers and Trgovic here to fix our defense. Only thing on my mind.
Bowles and Nolan would be just fine too. Defensive guys.
Can’t see Capers leaving GB to be our DC. Moss doesn’t hae the resume to convince me he can fix our defense.
January 16th, 2012 at 9:53 am
it’s a passing league blah blah blah, tell that to Aaron Rodgers and Drew Brees. Lotta ways to win in the NFL and yes having an elite RB can be one of the ways
January 16th, 2012 at 9:53 am
J Hill Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 9:27 am
J Hill, wasn’t Madden a linebackers coach when he was given the head coach job?
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Well if you have to go back that far to get an example, then I think I really don’t want Moss now.
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That is one weak argument.
January 16th, 2012 at 9:54 am
J Hill Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 9:47 am
I posted that too, but it doesn’t fit into J’s argument, so he ignored it
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Cmon, O, really????
Am I not paying enough attention to you?
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
I don’t need your attention bro, and im sorry if I hurt your feelings.
January 16th, 2012 at 9:54 am
You have to wonder if Mongo would clean out Green Bays staff after they freed him up to come here. If he did….he is an Al Davis disciple.
Just win Baby!!
January 16th, 2012 at 9:55 am
A blind man with a lot of money to burn and no football knowledge whatsoever.
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inonewordraider Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 9:23 am
trade seymour, who would pick up his contract?
January 16th, 2012 at 9:55 am
You People are so sensitive!
January 16th, 2012 at 9:56 am
I don’t need your attention bro, and im sorry if I hurt your feelings.
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You are the one complaining about being ignored, my friend.
You know I’m the king of not givin a phhuuggg.
January 16th, 2012 at 9:57 am
without arian foster the texans aren’t in the playoffs. without ray rice the ravens aren’t in the playoffs. without bradshaw/jacobs the giants aren’t in the playoffs. without gore the 9ers aren’t in the playoffs. just because they weren’t drafted high they are elite talents and aren’t found easily. teams miss on rb’s all the time
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And Arian Foster is what? An UNDRAFTED FREE AGENT.
When teams “miss” on late-round RBs, it doesn’t become a salary cap problem like DMac has become for the Raiders. It doesn’t prevent them from adding other capable players to that position group, as DMac has.
Moreover, the Texans, Giants, and Ravens are three of the best run-blocking teams in football, with passing games that need to be accounted for. It’s not like these running backs are carrying the entire team.
January 16th, 2012 at 9:57 am
A blind man with a lot of money to burn and no football knowledge whatsoever.
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inonewordraider Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 9:23 am
trade seymour, who would pick up his contract?
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So we are trading him to the Redskins?
January 16th, 2012 at 9:58 am
Nobody’s picking up Seymours contract….. And I seriously doubt anybody’s gonna give us the value we’d want for McFadden… …
January 16th, 2012 at 9:58 am
YoungAmerican Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 8:49 am
If DMac A.) ever played a full season in his career and B.) wasn’t shut out by defenses like the Patriots, Steelers, Colts, Texans, Ravens, among others, THEN I would buy the 2000-yard rushing argument. But he hasn’t, and he was, so I don’t.
Even then, I don’t recall a single Superbowl winner in the last decade having an “elite” running back. Running games can be neutralized by good defenses and good offenses. Running backs don’t help you win big games against elite teams.
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ever heard of Marcus Allen,Emmitt smith,Marshall Faulk,Terrell Davis, just to mention a few!
Healthy DMAC an Palmer gets an offseason we may be one or two games better next yr
January 16th, 2012 at 9:59 am
Mongo is a good name for mcckenzie lmao
January 16th, 2012 at 10:01 am
You have to wonder if Mongo would clean out Green Bays staff after they freed him up to come here.
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Why would GB allow that to happen?
I was saying the same thing early last week when Denver’s assts were interviewing for jobs.
If a GB asst as coming over, why wouldn’t he have interviewed last week?
January 16th, 2012 at 10:03 am
485.
I can’t take credit. Someone else posted it. But I thought so to.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:04 am
DEATHROW 55 Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 9:59 am
Mongo is a good name for mcckenzie lmao
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I like Triple McBypass.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:05 am
486.
I dont know all the rules. But maybe they couldnt.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:06 am
Half of Seymour’s salary next year is a roster bonus, isn’t it?
What’s the cap ramifications if we cut him before that roster bonus is due?
Same with Wimbley. They have some type of out this offseason from that contract according to Corkran inhis chat.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:06 am
Anyone who calls McKenzie “Mongo” is a pathetic dick wad.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:06 am
LA
You ever watch Blazing Saddles?
January 16th, 2012 at 10:07 am
I’m a pathetic dick wad!
January 16th, 2012 at 10:07 am
I said you ignored my point/ argument that doesn’t fit your argument, and I didn’t say you ignored me personally.
Try to think before you talk/ post!!!
January 16th, 2012 at 10:07 am
DonManoukiansNeighbor
I LOVE that movie.
“They said you was hung!”
“They was right!”
I could go on for a while.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:07 am
Seymour is not going anywhere he is locked in.
That is one player we are stuck with contractually and there is not much we can do besides taking a huge cap hit. So he stays no matter what anyone here thinks.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:09 am
Donkey asst interviews are a bunch of nothing. No way we are brining one of those guys over.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:09 am
Reggie said some people would have to restructure. I dont remember his exacts verbage because when he speaks I fall asleep but Seymour & Kelly would be at the top of that list. Restructure or pack your bags fellas.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:11 am
ever heard of Marcus Allen,Emmitt smith,Marshall Faulk,Terrell Davis, just to mention a few!
Healthy DMAC an Palmer gets an offseason we may be one or two games better next yr
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Marcus Allen? 1983.
Marshall Faulk? Had Kurt Warner, Torry Holt, and Isaac Bruce on his team.
Emmitt Smith had Troy Aikman and Michael Irvin, as well as a stacked defense.
Terrell Davis was a UDFA who had John Elway, and he was the last elite RB (although he had a short shelf life) who truly led his team.
In the last decade? The focus of NFL offenses has shifted, because elite NFL defenses are more than capable of shutting down running games. Look at all the Superbowl winners from the last decade. None of them have “elite” backs.
The 49ers? Didn’t look like this with a very similar offensive roster. Better defensive coaching, and Alex Smith minimizing his mistakes and playing like a real NFL QB are what got them into the playoffs.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:11 am
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January 16th, 2012 at 10:09 am
DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 10:06 am
LA
You ever watch Blazing Saddles?
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sh$t really funny ole school comedy. Used to watch as a kid
January 16th, 2012 at 10:13 am
inonewordraider Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 9:53 am
it’s a passing league blah blah blah, tell that to Aaron Rodgers and Drew Brees. Lotta ways to win in the NFL and yes having an elite RB can be one of the ways
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I agree. You don’t bail on proven talent like DMac for unproven draft picks who are more likely than not to either wash out of the league altogether or become average role players.
We saw what this offense was like with McFadden in the lineup this year and what it was like later on.
The injury history makes you nervous, of course, but I’d rather be nervous that I may need to replace McFadden at some point than I would be nervous that I traded McFadden away and he goes for 2,000+ all-purpose yards in the season and becomes somebody else’s difference maker.
Because if he can just stay healthy that’s what he’ll do and, in terms of age alone, he’s likely to have another 7 or 8 elite level seasons in him.
Plus, if undrafted stud RBs are so easy to find then we’ll have no problem finding an affordable one to back up McFadden in case of injury anyway.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:13 am
why no new post about the Bronco’s OC coming here for an interview….in Al Davis style gathering information on the competition!
Glad to see the cool shlt Al did is still happening here!
January 16th, 2012 at 10:14 am
Ron Wolf / Cleavon little
Marks Davis / Gene Wilder
Reggie Mckenzie / Alex Karras “Mongo”
January 16th, 2012 at 10:15 am
Because if he can just stay healthy that’s what he’ll do and, in terms of age alone, he’s likely to have another 7 or 8 elite level seasons in him.
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LOL.
Let’s see if he has more than one elite level season first.
I doubt he’s in the league seven years from now.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:16 am
Young American
DMAC Wil have DMoore,Jacoby ford,an DHB,Marcel Reece An KBoss
also CP3
are you saying that this can’t work?
January 16th, 2012 at 10:17 am
The Raiders need to pick up at least two RBs this offseason. One to replace Bush if he leaves, and one to replace McFadden when he gets injured.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:17 am
Chris in NY for GM!
January 16th, 2012 at 10:18 am
I was being sarcastic on that last point, but I should mention I’d like to see what Lonyae Miller can do next preseason. I was really hoping we’d spend a late-round pick on him coming out of Fresno a couple of years ago but we didn’t and he became a UFA who has been a practice squad type guy for a few teams since then. We signed him to our p-squad late this year. I think he could replace Bush in 2012. Not sure he fills the short-yardage role or not. He has decent size though (I think in that 220-230 range).
January 16th, 2012 at 10:18 am
Reggie said he is a go with the gut type of guy. I think he is interviewing until his gut tells him who the guy is. I think that is a good wey to go. Leaders are sometimes born not made and when we are building from scratch, we need someone who has the qualities that can take the bull by the horns.
Also, reg had a few interviews for gm before we got him. I am sure his style doesnt do him any favors. But with the endorsements he has, I hope others are going to be wishin they had looked past his southern style and demeanor.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:21 am
473 yes Capers took his team to the nfcc ONE year what else has he done but lose. I don’t know if you were on the fire Hue train but I don’t understand how people could want Hue fired after one injury riddled 8-8 season but want a guy who has exactly 1 winning season as a head coach
January 16th, 2012 at 10:21 am
All I know is everybody, or at least most, were in agreement that with a healthy McFadden we would’ve been in the playoffs this year. Now, a bunch of people want to trade the guy that could’ve made the difference in our season because he was injured.
Why? To spite him for his injuries?
January 16th, 2012 at 10:22 am
are you saying that this can’t work?
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I’m saying that the Raiders hinging their ability to run the ball on a guy who won’t play for an entire season will make things harder on the rest of the offense.
I’m saying that the $6 million towards the salary cap that Darren McFadden costs the Raiders could be used on two mid-round RBs and a couple defensive role players.
I’m saying that getting DMac back does not automatically make the Raiders a team that can compete for a Superbowl.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:22 am
508.Chris in NY Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 10:18 am
I was being sarcastic on that last point, but I should mention I’d like to see what Lonyae Miller can do next preseason. I was really hoping we’d spend a late-round pick on him coming out of Fresno a couple of years ago but we didn’t and he became a UFA who has been a practice squad type guy for a few teams since then. We signed him to our p-squad late this year. I think he could replace Bush in 2012. Not sure he fills the short-yardage role or not. He has decent size though (I think in that 220-230 range).
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Still can’t understand why we didn’t IR JC and bring Miler up during the final 3 games when Bush was searing down and Jones was on the shelf w/ DMac…
Would hve been good to see what the kid could do.
Oh well, our DeFacto GM was on De Crackto!
January 16th, 2012 at 10:23 am
It’s your world Raider O.
You can keep babbling to yourself.
You made a comment about me ignoring you, somthing your said, a point you made, or whatever the phugg you want to call it.
That’s the bottom line.
We get it. You need all of your points responded too or you’ll start your attempts at comedy.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:25 am
An Im saying that before he was hurt he was unstoppable an if he stays healthy then that’s just what he will be “unstoppable”
January 16th, 2012 at 10:26 am
Marcus Allen? 1983.
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They tried to throw Madden at me, lol.
At least you got an example outta the 80s.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:26 am
Reggie said he is a go with the gut type of guy. I think he is interviewing until his gut tells him who the guy is.
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Just hope he didn’t have any bad Chinese food the night before.
Al did the same thing and after having some fondue Mark brought home from his Home economics class we ended up with Joe Bugel.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:26 am
Hey. The Texan lost their top 2 qbs. They got to the post season. I don’t care about our injuries. We had the talent to be a playoff team. The reason we weren’t was because of an organizational failure. In fact, our record for most season’s in a row is an indictment that things have not been run well for a while. 8-8 is impressive because it was despite the garbage that has been going on there for way too long.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:27 am
An Im saying that before he was hurt he was unstoppable
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The Colts, Steelers, Texans, Ravens, and other teams would beg to differ.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:28 am
517. That is rad
January 16th, 2012 at 10:29 am
Who did we draft in that Moss trade?
January 16th, 2012 at 10:30 am
That cb who got cut after two years and was kept bc al didn’t want to look bad
January 16th, 2012 at 10:32 am
Wonder how long a DMAC trade pick would last?
January 16th, 2012 at 10:32 am
VanHeathen Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 10:22 am
508.Chris in NY Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 10:18 am
I was being sarcastic on that last point, but I should mention I’d like to see what Lonyae Miller can do next preseason. I was really hoping we’d spend a late-round pick on him coming out of Fresno a couple of years ago but we didn’t and he became a UFA who has been a practice squad type guy for a few teams since then. We signed him to our p-squad late this year. I think he could replace Bush in 2012. Not sure he fills the short-yardage role or not. He has decent size though (I think in that 220-230 range).
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Still can’t understand why we didn’t IR JC and bring Miler up during the final 3 games when Bush was searing down and Jones was on the shelf w/ DMac…
Would hve been good to see what the kid could do.
Oh well, our DeFacto GM was on De Crackto!
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I agree that probably would’ve been the best thing to do. I think that there was a fear of making the playoffs that if we got a couple of rounds deep and then Palmer got dinged we’d have to rely on Boller.
Still, I kind of doubt Campbell would even be ready to go by this coming weekend. Which is why in retrospect I agree with you. But there’s really no surefire way to predict how long a guy is going to be out or how long exactly it’ll take him to fully recover from a given injury.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:34 am
DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 10:29 am
Who did we draft in that Moss trade?
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John Bowie
January 16th, 2012 at 10:34 am
Bowie was CB we got in the draft for Moss he was from cincinnati
January 16th, 2012 at 10:34 am
Since al is gone…not as long if it doesn’t pan out…the pick would also be a more intelligent and researched pick that has more going for him than being the fastest player available don’t you think?
January 16th, 2012 at 10:35 am
J,
Yeah yeah yeah…..
Can’t understand the point.
Just stop dude. You are embarrassing yourself.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:35 am
Raiders fans have been conditioned to fear the draft.
Good organizations don’t. They build through the draft.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:37 am
Since Al is gone, the player with the fastest 40 yd time just lost his guaranteed draft spot.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:37 am
Why? To spite him for his injuries?
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Bingo
January 16th, 2012 at 10:39 am
Just to show we have turned the corner they should draft the slowest tard in the draft to replace DMAC.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:39 am
18,
I was not on the fire Hue bandwagon. I was on the let the GM make the decision bandwagon. Would have been fine either way.
Again, if it is between Moss and Caper, I like the experience that Capers has with turning defenses around and the possibility that he could bring over Trgovic with him.
I’m not totally opposed to Moss. If you’re telling me he could bring in Capers as the DC or even Trgovic, then hey let’s give it a shot.
But Moss alone???? Who comes with him? Not completely sold yet.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:39 am
Raider guy Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 10:30 am
That cb who got cut after two years and was kept bc al didn’t want to look bad
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Exactly. I think because of the instant success of Denarius Moore and Jacoby Ford in back-to-back years makes fans think there’s a good chance that these mid-round picks can yield difference-making type players. The reality is that far more mid-rounders go the way of John Bowie. The average of what you’re going to get is probably along the lines of a Johnnie Lee Higgins. Maybe a few shining moments but mostly average play and a journeyman or vet minimum player 4-5 years into the league.
You don’t trade McFadden for a couple of guys like that just because you’re afraid he might get hurt.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:40 am
LA to TheBay Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 10:37 am
Why? To spite him for his injuries?
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Bingo
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No, to get something in return for a player who costs too much against the salary cap considering his level of contribution and the replaceable nature of his position.
Anything in the 2nd round or higher would be worthwhile for the Raiders.
Either way, DMac shouldn’t make more than $750,000 in 2012.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:41 am
J Hill Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 9:47 am
I posted that too, but it doesn’t fit into J’s argument, so he ignored it
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Cmon, O, really????
Am I not paying enough attention to you?
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J Hill Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 9:56 am
I don’t need your attention bro, and im sorry if I hurt your feelings.
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You are the one complaining about being ignored, my friend.
You know I’m the king of not givin a phhuuggg.
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J Hill Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 10:23 am
It’s your world Raider O.
You can keep babbling to yourself.
You made a comment about me ignoring you, somthing your said, a point you made, or whatever the phugg you want to call it.
That’s the bottom line.
We get it. You need all of your points responded too or you’ll start your attempts at comedy.
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Are you really in your 40s because you sound like a kid
January 16th, 2012 at 10:42 am
Keep McFadden and sign Peyton Hillis.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:42 am
Chris In NY for blog GM!
January 16th, 2012 at 10:44 am
YoungAmerican Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 10:40 am
LA to TheBay Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 10:37 am
Why? To spite him for his injuries?
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Bingo
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No, to get something in return for a player who costs too much against the salary cap considering his level of contribution and the replaceable nature of his position.
Anything in the 2nd round or higher would be worthwhile for the Raiders.
Either way, DMac shouldn’t make more than $750,000 in 2012.
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I don’t think $5-6 million is really that much against the cap. Not for a guy who is one of the elite playmakers in the league when healthy. Not for the DMac of 2010 or the DMac of the first six games of 2011. 5 or 6 mil is an absolute bargain for that guy.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:44 am
Albert Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 10:42 am
Keep McFadden and sign Peyton Hillis.
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Like being a Jaguar owner.
A performance machine… but you need two.
One to drive while the other is in the shop.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:45 am
J,
Yeah yeah yeah…..
Can’t understand the point.
Just stop dude. You are embarrassing yourself.
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Please paste where I said I didn’t understand your point.
You’re right, I probably am embarrasing myself by getting into another one of these childish poster back and forths.
You think Moss will be a good HC, you are entitled to your opinion.
Good luck to you.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:46 am
DMAC is a menace to victory as I asserted years ago.
Cut the spoiled quitter with extreme prejudice!!!
January 16th, 2012 at 10:46 am
SnB Offense Defense Specialteams Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
Cash’n checks….
Reggie has a lot of work to do…..Rome won’t be built in a day……
Wimbley = $10M per yr. – Ware = $11M per yr.
TK = $7M per yr. – Wilfork $8M per yr
Seymour = $15M per yr. – Ngata $12M per yr
Routt = $11M per yr – Revis $11.5M per yr
Huff = $8M per yr – Palomalu $9M per yr / Reed $7M per
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Great post SnB.
Look for Raiders to try to trade Wimbley and Huff for late round picks but their contracts are prohibitive for trading. So look for them to cut Wimbley, and Huff as well as Seymour unless they take a pay cut which they won’t. That’ll save $33m per year. And given their production and injury history I think that’ll be good move. We should be able to find decent FA and half that cost for these three to be just as effective.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:46 am
Raiders fans have been conditioned to fear the draft.
Good organizations don’t. They build through the draft.
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Agree 110%.
If you can nail the draft, you are at a prime spot, salary-cap and roster wise.
Saints payed Jimmy Graham about 15% of what we paid Kevin Boss, for an NFL record season.
Gronkowski got paid 25% of what we paid Boss.
The perfect example of the difference between building in the draft and through FA.
FA’s are often overpaid, draft picks underpaid.
We need more underpaid guys and less overpaid guys.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:47 am
Albert Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 10:42 am
Keep McFadden and sign Peyton Hillis.
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Houston Nutt as head coach. Matt Jones as WR/QB. Razorbacks West, baby.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:48 am
My take on our current players and where they currently rank as NFL caliber players:
NFL Starting Material
QB- Palmer
RB –McFadden, Bush
TE- Boss
WR- Moore, DHB
O-Line- Veldheer, Wiz, Carlisle
D-Line Huston, Seymour, Shonasty, Wimbley*
LB-None
CB-None
Safety-Branch
Special Teams-Jano, Lechler, Condo
Total Starters =17 (including 3 for Special Teams)
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Back Up Material
QB-None
RB-None
FB-Tonga, Reece
TE-Meyers
WR-Murphy, Ford
O-line-Barnes, Heyer, Satele
D-Line-Kelly, D. Bryant, Henderson
LB-Curry
CB-Routt
Safety-Huff, Gio, MM
Total Back Up (non-starter material)=16
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Immaterial (Should be cut, not NFL Material)
QB-Boller
RB- R. Cartwright
FB-None
TE-None
WR-T.J. Housh
O-line-None
D-Line-
LB-McClain, Groves
CB-Lito Shephard
Safety -J. Boyd
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Raw Material
QB-Pryor
RB-Taiwan Jones
TE-Ausberry, Gordon
WR-None
O-Line-Parsons, Hurd, B. Campbell
D-Line-Moss, Ivey
LB-Goethel
CB-Chekwa, DVD
Safety-None
Total Raw material players=13
January 16th, 2012 at 10:48 am
Speak for yourself.
-M Bush
-DMAC
-Nnamdi Potter
-M Allen
-B Jackson
-T Brown
-H Long
-N Kaufman
-Wiz #1
-Wiz #2
-Veldheer
-D Mosebar
-G Townsend
-M Millen
-G Biekert
-S Lechler
-SeaPerch>>>Bass
-K stabler
-C Branch
-A Shell
-G Upshaw
Do you need more?
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YoungAmerican Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 10:35 am
Raiders fans have been conditioned to fear the draft.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:50 am
Raiders fans have been conditioned to fear the draft.
Good organizations don’t. They build through the draft.
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Agree 110%.
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Where are the Raider fans that fear the draft?
This blog is at it’s best in the offseason when we chop up the Senior Bowl, combine, and all the other possibilties.
We have nailed the draft post Jamarcus. Especially the mid rounds.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:50 am
Way off on Clowndo there Beijing. Can’t cover or play a real position. And way overpaid.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:51 am
J,
Same to you bro.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:52 am
Bo-then offer to hike it for Lechler and let us know the outcome….
January 16th, 2012 at 10:54 am
Chris in NY Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 10:47 am
Albert Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 10:42 am
Keep McFadden and sign Peyton Hillis.
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Houston Nutt as head coach. Matt Jones as WR/QB. Razorbacks West, baby.
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Nutty to think of Houston as an NFL head coach. Hire Matt Jones as the team drug addict! Let’s get ONE healthy Razorback on the field first, then worry about getting others later. While we’re on the topic of Razorbacks, what about that epic quitter, Mr. Petrino?
January 16th, 2012 at 10:54 am
I agree but these contracts aren’t going to go away overnight. It will take years to recover from the overpaid players union. Even the great Reggie will need time to move them out of here.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:54 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 10:46 am
DMAC is a menace to victory as I asserted years ago.
Cut the spoiled quitter with extreme prejudice!!!
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Now that’s not fair. DMC is a very hard worker and a difference maker. Ok he’s prone to injury but just because he didn’t want to take cortison shots each week doesn’t mean he’s a quiter. You see so many X-NFL players who can’t walk when they’re 40 because of all the operations and cortisone shots they took to play. This guy is a human being who’s concerned about his health and life just as you and I are. They did a disservice of not putting him on injured reserve right off the bat.
In general I’m not impressed with the decision made by the Raiders medical staff. This is just one of the many of those decisions. Not signing Jared Gaither is another. Not putting Jason Campbell on IR is another. And so on and on and on. Blame them not DMC. That guys is a warrior.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:55 am
The list has nothing to do with who was paid what, or if there is someone better/cheaper in the NFL, it is a ranking of the positions on the team and where our players stand in terms of NFL quality.
Have no clue if Condo is overpaid…he is a starter, nes paz?
January 16th, 2012 at 10:55 am
I don’t think $5-6 million is really that much against the cap. Not for a guy who is one of the elite playmakers in the league when healthy. Not for the DMac of 2010 or the DMac of the first six games of 2011. 5 or 6 mil is an absolute bargain for that guy.
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I keep hearing the words “when healthy”. First of all, recurring foot injuries, especially lisfranc injuries for RBs, are a massive concern going forward. Secondly, “when healthy” he isn’t completely unstoppable, as evidenced by several matchups against elite and not-so-elite defenses.
$6 million against the cap is pretty huge for a team who is A) already over the cap and B) needs to improve several other position groups.
Many teams manage to pay 3 serviceable RBs and still not hit $5 million for one season. The teams that pay more than that have guys who produce – AP, Gore, MJD. DMac has had one season with comparable statistics to any of those guys. And the reality is, those guys are on teams who don’t win even WITH an elite RB. As I pointed out, the 49ers didn’t even sniff the playoffs with Gore until Alex Smith pulled his head out of his a**.
Mid-round picks don’t have to be game-changers. They can have a ton of value if you simply find solid role-players who fit your schemes. The new Raiders GM comes from a team that has this philosophy, and that team has done pretty well for itself over the past several years.
For McFadden, a second rounder or better would be a steal and would allow the Raiders to address other areas of the team in desperate need of improvement.
RBs are a dime a dozen. Find 3-4 guys who don’t mind putting in hard work and earning their playing time, and go from there.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:56 am
I wouldn’t trade DMC unless I’m getting another 1st rd pick. He is too talented, but can’t stay healthy. I will give him another year with the new GM,.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:56 am
Trade Michael Bush now, and get some trade value. Trade Wibley – there’s some more trade value. Hope that Aaron Curry can truly develop as a versatile LB, given the right tutelage. We need more help in the defensive backfield and on D-Line (need a replacement for Seymour in the next 1-2 years). Carson Palmer? We’ll see – jury’s still out on that one.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:57 am
how much has dmac made in his tenure as a raider
January 16th, 2012 at 10:57 am
This is just one of the many of those decisions. Not signing Jared Gaither is another. Not putting Jason Campbell on IR is another. And so on and on and on. Blame them not DMC. That guys is a warrior
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Has anyone touched on the medical staff situation?
Reggie have the power to replace them?
One would think, despite they’re being there for some time as I undersand, GM could do that. WOnder if he would have to get approval from Mark/Amy or shouldn’t that fall under ‘football operations’ like scouting?
January 16th, 2012 at 10:58 am
I look forward to the draft and I dont even watch college ball.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:58 am
I think the only way to trade Bush is to tag him, but that will be at 7+ mil.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:58 am
???
Make some sense Lowdown.
Tell me why Adam Treu is not the prototype LS.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:59 am
New post
January 16th, 2012 at 10:59 am
Raiderbuck Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 10:54 am
I agree but these contracts aren’t going to go away overnight. It will take years to recover from the overpaid players union. Even the great Reggie will need time to move them out of here.
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I give him one season.
All that was needed to make the Raiders a SB contender in 2012 was a legitimate DC to come up with better schemes and maximize the talent already on the roster. He fired Hue after one 8-8 injury-filled season.
Anything less than 12-4 or at least 10-6 with a deep playoff run is a total failure, in my opinion, and should cost Reggie his job.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:00 am
Wimbley, like Seymour & Kelly have huge contracts…trading them at this point would be tantamount to impossible…Wish we could…we have no NFL starting caliber linebackers on our team…Curry can tackle at the line but is lost in space…
January 16th, 2012 at 11:01 am
Raider O Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 10:58 am
I think the only way to trade Bush is to tag him, but that will be at 7+ mil.
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Oh, I think Dan Snyder over in D.C. would give up more than he should for a power back like Bush. Let the man make his money, and we can rebuild in the process.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:01 am
UCLA the shots were for pain not cortisone.
DMAC is a disgrace. Won’t ever hulk up for his team but collecting megamillions
January 16th, 2012 at 11:03 am
We should try and trade for Kuhn from Green Bay. He had that one fumble yesterday, but he’s a solid blocker, strong runner and a good pass catcher. Team him up with the speed of DMac and or T.J. and we’ve got something.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:06 am
aig-raiders Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 10:37 am
Since Al is gone, the player with the fastest 40 yd time just lost his guaranteed draft spot.
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Oh, you mean no more fear of another DHB as the 7th overall pick, right?
January 16th, 2012 at 11:10 am
I would like to see both Capers and Trgovic land in the Bay area, if at all possible.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:12 am
By the time the game started… some packers fans were already drowning their anger and frustration with beer and shots of tequila. ..LOL… they knew their goose was cooked with all the coaching changes and lack of focus by future Raiders coaches… needless to say.. their not happy with the decision of packers GM Thompson letting Reggie I interview for raiders GM position… I think we have our head coach within 10 days..
January 16th, 2012 at 11:14 am
if next year is a contract year for mcfadden then i think he should stay because hell be playing for a job and we might get his best cuz the bulk of the contract is already paid
but if its not his contract year then we got trade for what we can get for him cuz he will spain an ankle again
January 16th, 2012 at 11:16 am
GoodOle00 Says:
January 15th, 2012 at 5:55 pm
faiders rebuilding for years. Walrus puss is going to do whatever he wants and wreck everything.
Good luck getting that stadium while your 4-12 team sucks for years!
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Signed, Jaguars fan
January 16th, 2012 at 11:16 am
Chris there’s enough delusional haters on this blog… please don’t go there. . Your speaking outta anger and frustration. . I understand we were close but we have to move on.. depending on who we hire I think we might be 8-8 again Next season. ..
January 16th, 2012 at 11:17 am
I hope Wylie stays. Was our best coach by far this season.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:18 am
Dmac’s not going anywhere for at least another year; same thing with #3. We’ve got to hitch our horses and build around them. It can be done …
January 16th, 2012 at 11:21 am
I think we have the pieces in place to possibly go 9-7, depending on next year’s schedule. I think we have AFC North and NFC South (though not positive). If we just instill some discipline (i.e., cut way down on penalties) and get some consistent tackling, better days ahead …
January 16th, 2012 at 11:24 am
so next year is a contract year for mcfadden thats good 4 us cuz he ll be playing for his next job
January 16th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
MistaBrown Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 8:27 am
I suggested Capers about the same day as Reggie’s presser as DC not head coach before his name was mentioned here.
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You also said cut DHB, cut Seymour and cut Jankikowsky. And you also supported Gingrich who has fallen so far off he is an irrelvant wack job. Just like you.
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